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ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, DivineOmega said: !DivineOmega is DivineOmega is awesome!00:26
tyabuxJariSheri has an onjoin advertisement on #ubuntu. It's annoying.00:28
Flanneltyabux: Thanks.  What for?00:29
tyabuxsome food chain, I think. 00:30
Flanneltyabux: That's sort of odd.  Alright, thanks.00:30
tyabuxit is. 00:30
ubottuusser called the ops in #ubuntu ()02:42
ubottuIn ubottu, rww said: !firewall ~= s/Firestarter (Gnome)/Gufw (Gnome), Firestarter (Gnome),/02:49
jrib!firewall02:49
ubottuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).02:49
jrib!firewall ~= s#Firestarter#Firestarter/Gufw#02:51
ubottuI'll remember that jrib02:51
jrib!~firewall02:51
ubottuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).02:51
ubotturww called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (lolz)02:55
LjL!staff03:03
ubottuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian, PriceChild or stew, I could use a bit of your time :)03:03
LjL!ops03:03
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elky,  imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso,  PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!03:03
ubottuLjL called the ops in #ubuntu-ops ()03:03
LjLplease have my ubuntu member cloak removed03:03
LjLand my op privileges too03:03
jribLjL: ?03:03
LjLjrib: see #freenode.03:03
LjLi'm sick and tired of dealing with trolls, reporting them to #freenode, and getting a prick like Lorez treating me like a fucker.03:03
LjLSeveas was right03:03
LjLthis network sucks03:04
LjLi don't want to be associated with it anymore03:04
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)03:35
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)03:35
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)03:35
LjL^besides, now it's 4am and i cannot even sleep. that's certainly my own problem with taking the internet too seriously, but still that doesn't dismiss the behavior that caused it03:38
LjL^i should be saying this somewhere else as #ubuntu-ops isn't really the right place, but then neither is #freenode, so.03:38
LjL^you will find me in #gentoo-ops. you will find me in #fedora-ops. i think if you ask, they'll tell you i've been helpful and friendly - at least i hope so03:39
LjL^you also know i pushed #ubuntu-irc for various ubuntu channels to communicate better, and i'd say it's working, as it's being actively used by several loco channels03:39
LjL^i've tried to work in integration03:39
LjL^and the result is that all this work is made worthless by some i'm-holier-than-though member of freenode staff who just won't k-line an obvious multi-channel spammer03:40
LjL^perhaps christel should, instead of sending out a call for new staff members, review some of her previous staff03:40
LjL^rather than make half of the ubuntu irc people staff themselves so there's no one left to complain03:41
LjL^seveas was right, this network is rotten03:41
LjL^what makes it rotten is people like lorez, but also a general attitude of "once you're staff, you're another person"03:41
LjL^everyone could see this happening with pricechild for instance03:41
LjL^i don't know what kind of brainwashing you do to staff, christel - but it's effective, BUT it's not effective in the sense that it makes the network better03:42
LjL^#freenode is full of non-staff idiots who're ready to tell you that "this is channel policy not a network problem", "just /ignore him", "what do we care"03:43
LjL^nothing is ever said about them03:43
LjL^on the other hand, i can be sure that a good 30% of the times i report a spammer or something, i get lorez treating me rudely03:44
ubottulstarnes called the ops in #ubuntu (ktdcjkhytrfd)04:24
tritium@login04:26
ubottuThe operation succeeded.04:26
tritium@btlogin04:26
balzac     /msg nickserv set hidemail on  05:43
balzacoops, sorry05:43
balzacanyone feeling conversational?05:45
bazhanggenii, sorry not to respond earlier; I think you meant bolt_ with the random questions and PMs 06:07
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Flannelcaskets?07:58
Madpilotcaskets for trolls? I'm in favour!08:00
FlannelAds for caskets.08:00
bazhanghehe08:00
FlannelNot quite the same.  Similar in theory though.08:00
FlannelMeh.  Spammers.08:12
FlannelTheres no real recourse for onjoin spam, is there.08:13
FlannelI imagine staff can do something about it?08:15
FlannelActually, I take that back.  Probably cant.08:16
geekphreekspammer = A_Girl_Named_Tra08:23
geekphreektold to drop the spammer names in here?08:23
Flannelgeekphreek: Yep.  We'll look into it.  Thanks.08:24
geekphreekok, be prepared for a list because they happen every 2 to 3 minutes =\08:24
FlannelAmaranth: Anything you can think of that we can do about it?08:26
Amaranth/cs lart?08:26
FlannelAmaranth: Said spammer has the same IP.  Unfortunately, the person getting the list isn't the same person.08:27
FlannelThey log on, spam, log back off, come back with a new nick, etc.08:27
Amarantheh?08:28
AmaranthIf they always have the same IP this seems easy08:28
FlannelIf we can get a K-train, sure.08:28
FlannelBut they never join the channel.08:28
AmaranthOh, they spam in PM08:28
FlannelAye08:28
AmaranthGive up then08:28
Amaranthfreenode doesn't kline such people08:28
FlannelAmaranth: Its apparently happening every few minutes.08:28
Amaranth(see rant earlier)08:29
FlannelAmaranth: Aye, I did.08:29
FlannelBut, that's not a good answer.08:29
AmaranthMost you can do is ignore PMs from that IP08:29
FlannelWell, they're not hitting me.08:29
Amaranthget-off-freenode-spec?08:29
* Amaranth wonders if that is still on the wiki08:29
FlannelIt should be, yeah.08:29
christelFlannel: klined, thanks for heads-up08:30
FlannelI've had my nick registered on oftc for a while now, just in case ;)08:30
elky_christel, you rock, as usual :)08:30
AmaranthI should do that, dunno if I have already08:30
AmaranthAt least half our users would transfer over automatically with irc.ubuntu.com...08:30
FlannelIt'd still be nice not to have to.  Itd be a rather disruptive move.08:31
christelelky_: hardly! thats why we're here -- but thank you for the kind words! <308:31
elky_Amaranth, oh please, oftc is useless for spam and harrassment.08:32
Amaranthelky_: I wasn't specifically talking about that one08:33
FlannelAmaranth: really, they'd just come whereever we are though.08:33
Myrttigmoin08:33
Amaranthelky_: We seem to have enough ops to always have someone around, for example08:33
* popey huggles Myrtti 08:33
Amaranthmake them all staff on a canonical hosted server08:33
Amaranthwell, maybe not all08:33
FlannelAmaranth: That's likely more trouble than its worth.08:33
Amaranthit'd mean the IRC server dies on release day08:34
FlannelHaha08:34
Amaranththat would be a good thing, me thinks08:34
popey:)08:34
elky_Amaranth, freenode and ubuntu have a good system going now. lets not meddle with a working system08:35
Amaranthelky_: My view of the system is: if I can't handle it by banning people I give up08:35
AmaranthBecause the few times I've tried going to staff nothing happened08:36
elky_the perceived problem earlier i believe stemmed mostly from unhelpful helpers buffering and misleading staff, not from staff themselves08:36
AmaranthHell, I don't think I've ever had staff actually help me with _anything_08:36
elky_Amaranth, i have staff help me almost daily08:36
AmaranthI'm pretty sure the compiz project registration is still pending, for example08:36
Amaranthgoing on 2 years now08:36
* Flannel hardly interacts with staff, obviously is ill-suited for this discussion.08:36
FlannelI could make up opinions of them if you want though!08:37
Amaranthwe still don't have #compiz, luckily when the whole compiz fusion thing happened the owner of the channel was able to be contacted and setup a forward to #compiz-fusion08:37
Flannelgeekphreek: We think the spamming issue is solved.  If there's nothing else we can help you with, please don't idle here.  Feel free to come back if it resumes.  Thanks.08:38
geekphreekok, thanks08:38
s3r3n1t7ubottu seems very very slow today, if he responds at all. Not sure if it was known yet, just thought it should be reported.09:18
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)09:18
Myrttiit's been slow for days09:18
Myrttianything else?09:18
s3r3n1t7it has? haven't noticed it until now. Nah, that's just about it. Tnx09:19
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* popey sighs at yet more pm's from bolt_10:28
ubottuIn ubottu, Kimi said: where is the root user of ubuntu ?? in my linux book, its said that one who # is the root. but though i have $ i can install things, use cds, pendrives. why ?? plz dont tell sudo. i know what sudo is. i want to knw how to ope the root ?10:28
ikoniapopey: I'll speak to him about it - he's been warned10:28
ikoniakimi is a moron - he knows it's a bot10:28
elkychristel, are you still around?10:29
christeli am 10:30
christelwhat can i do you for? :)10:30
elkychristel, a private conversation, if i may?10:34
elkyikonia, he knows it's a bot, yes. i suspect he thinks that it'll make us give him the answers out of pity10:35
christelelky: certainly )10:35
ikoniaI bet it's a conversation about shoes10:35
elkyikonia, or calendars ;)10:36
* ikonia backs off10:36
elkytehehe10:36
ikonia@mark #ubuntu bolt_ pm'ing people after multiple warnings not to - forwarded to -ops10:37
ubottuThe operation succeeded.10:37
elkyugh, again?10:52
bazhangwowzor. bolt_ just never learns12:26
ikoniahe's gone, so it's not a problem any more12:27
bazhang<lixcab> any good place to chat when drunk? talk to funny people and all.  <ruh roh>12:43
elkybazhang, send em to #defocus. it's there for a reason12:51
bazhangelky, at that point he was already directed to #ubuntu-offtopic . you are welcome to direct him there.12:58
ikonia12:38 -!- Irssi: |ns|nR8 [n=vv@CPE-58-167-43-118.vic.bigpond.net.au] [top secret] has joined to IRC13:01
ikoniaconfirmed panarchy13:02
elky_how is that confirmed panarchy?13:08
ikoniabusted him13:08
ikoniain a pm 13:08
bazhangnicely done13:08
ikoniahe logged out13:08
elky_he must be leeching wifi hotspots then13:09
ikoniayes, it's a different ISP than normal13:09
elky_thefeds has taken to using microsoft nicks from his 3g connection13:10
ikoniawhat was his recent one13:10
elky_an ip, not a hostmask13:11
ikoniaI meant his nicks13:11
elky_microsoft_xp_pro or something equally idiotic13:11
ikoniaoh, is that him 13:11
elky_almost certain.13:11
ikoniahe hit about 10 channels last night, he was the one ljl blew up over13:12
elky_mentioning 'thefeds' has the connection killing powahs13:12
bazhangyep its him13:13
bazhangthefeds and nicotine withdrawal13:13
elky_the ip resolved to Hutchison Telecommunications which is 3mobile here in aus13:13
elky_saying 'oh hello thefeds' was not what he expected13:14
ikoniadelightful13:14
elky_i think i was supposed to kick a stink about the nick13:14
bazhangso eeepc-ot is their new staging ground?13:14
ikoniayup13:15
ikoniathats the current troll pit of choice13:15
bazhangyuck13:15
elky_'their'?13:16
elky_please tell me panarchy and thefeds are not in cohorts...13:17
elky_i will have to cry.13:17
ikoniadoubtful13:17
ikoniapanarchy is too dumb13:17
bazhangdont forget dont_tase_me_bro (balzac)13:17
ikoniaand even other trolls can't be bothered with him13:17
elkynadan is ringing bells, but i cant place them13:54
ikoniamarcel is getting annoying now14:14
PiciI think if it continues the conversation should move here or to pm.14:15
ikoniaI've just tried to "end" it14:15
bazhangI saw some talk earlier of refreshing the access lists; was that just hypothetical14:16
Picibazhang: for?14:16
bazhangaccess list for #ubuntu channels Pici 14:16
ikoniaI didn't see any talk on that ?14:16
Picibazhang: I'm not sure what you mean by refreshing them..14:17
ikoniaare they out od date ?14:17
ikoniaof14:17
bazhanguhh, giving more access to those who have to run here everytime there is a meltdown in certain channels?14:17
bazhangthe ongoing month upon month one?14:17
ikoniaI'm lost14:18
bazhangsure, you have access in them all.14:18
ikonia?? I've got access in 3 channels14:19
ikonia(or 3 that I know of) 14:19
bazhangnever mind then.14:19
ikoniasorry, I'm lost14:19
Picibazhang is referring to the fact that some operators dont have access to -offtopic for example.14:19
MyrttiI think we have too many unactive ops in the access lists14:20
ikoniaahh14:20
bazhangand #kubuntu14:20
ikoniabazhang: sorry - missed totally what you where saying14:20
bazhango/14:24
* elky hugs LjL14:24
bazhang:014:25
elkyLjL, if you feel like talking, could i perhaps have a quick word?14:25
PiciGuess not.14:25
elky_bah14:25
ikoniatoo slow14:26
bazhanggafir> I would like to wear skirts, but they force me to wear pants14:27
bazhangegregious offtopic post for the day 14:27
genii-aroundjussi's site seems down for me, but can someone else please confirm?14:30
ikoniasure14:31
ikoniadead14:31
Picieh?14:31
genii-aroundikonia: OK, thanks14:32
ikoniaPici: jussi's site is down14:32
ikoniabots still fine though14:32
PiciI can get the the bantracker fine.14:32
ikoniaPici: no, jussi01.com14:32
ikoniathe other sites on the box are fine14:33
ikoniaactually, there is another site on his box that is also down14:33
genii-aroundWhen the jussi01 site is off, I have to switch IRC clients because usually we connect to the Quassel core of that box14:33
ikoniagenii-around: I know he's been having issues with the core a bit14:34
Picioh14:34
PiciI ssh to my linode for irssi14:34
ikoniasame here, I just use a box in a DC with irssi 14:34
elkyplease all let ljl cool off and come back on his own terms.14:52
bazhangheh14:53
bazhang#ubuntu-bt14:53
bazhangfor all your torrent needs14:54
elkyyou kid, right?14:54
bazhangljl just mistyped br/pt for protugues support channel14:54
bazhangportuguese14:54
bazhangugh14:54
elky.BTcountry-codeBhutan14:55
bazhangaww, pesky facts14:55
elkyanyway beddybyes for me14:57
Picielky: goodnight :)14:57
Myrtticheese ♥ 15:09
bazhang* [killedkillerc] (n=logan@12-201-8-6.client.mchsi.com): logan15:15
bazhangseems familiar15:15
ikonia!test15:23
ubottusigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed.15:23
bazhangbadfish69!n=deadbody@12-201-8-6.client.mchsi.com15:25
pleia2we've got some charmers in #ubuntu-classroom15:52
pleia210:49:16 < kaethornetehrogu> pleia stfu were all in the same class atm chillax15:52
pleia210:51:40 < elgoog> so... pleia why do u suck so much cock?15:52
pleia2removed and they're staying away for now, just FYI15:52
pleia2in case they decide to troll elsewhere :)15:53
bazhangoh too late15:53
bazhangthanks for the warning pleia2 15:53
pleia2DakotaRichins appears to be with them too, but he's been tame15:53
bazhangoh nice 16:05
pleia2indeed16:05
bazhangseem to be the similar ip16:06
pleia2they're all at school, that should keep them out for now16:06
bazhangwhoa identical in fact16:06
pleia2yeah, they said they are all in a class together16:06
bazhangoh, trolling #ubuntu channels, what fun16:07
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PiciIts too bad that /topics don't support <blink> tags16:27
ikoniaha16:28
ikoniaget to work on it, update ircd16:28
popeyit's too bad the /topic can't leap off the screen and beat the contents of itself into the user16:28
ikoniathat would be an interesting feature16:28
Pici+1 for that too16:29
Pici!test18:10
ubottusigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed.18:10
PiciUgh.18:53
PiciSeems like its offtopic day.18:53
genii-aroundI think I'm going to need a chiropractor now19:19
Picigenii-around: Why's that?19:19
genii-aroundPici: We just manhandled a 5 ton air conditioning unit around on the roof.19:20
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)19:21
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)19:21
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)19:21
Picigenii-around: oof19:22
PiciI was waiting for that.19:22
genii-aroundThe exploit notices?19:23
PiciI expected zewb to do something.19:24
PiciI should have banned him as soon as I saw him19:24
genii-aroundOn the good side, the exertion seems to have squeezed out the broken-off cat claws in my arm from bathing our semi-feral pets last night19:39
jussi01_grumble19:44
jussi01_servers down for some reason19:44
jussi01_ikonia: ping19:44
Picijussi01_: he mentioned it earlier.19:44
Picijpds: Could you tell ubot4 to stop parsing bugs in #ubuntu-irc?19:45
jussi01_Pici: mentioned what?19:45
Pici09:30:58 <genii-around> jussi's site seems down for me, but can someone else please confirm?19:45
Pici09:32:20 <ikonia> Pici: jussi's site is down19:45
jussi01_oh19:45
jussi01_yeah19:46
jussi01_anyone seen ikonia ? 19:46
genii-aroundPici you think his client is responsible for the dbl-posts?19:59
Picigenii-around: mibbit?19:59
genii-aroundApparently20:00
Picigenii-around: I was just using it to test something a few minutes ago and it was fine.20:00
genii-aroundWeird20:00
Picigonna unban.20:00
Picifeel free to rectify if needed.20:01
genii-aroundI'm not an #u op20:01
FlannelWho are we keeping an eye on?20:10
FlannelAh20:10
tsimpsonlaggy bot21:33
tsimpson@ping21:33
ubottupong21:33
PriceyHey all.21:34
tsimpsonoO, when did I get here21:41
genii-aroundHmm. <dares to hope jussi's site is back up>21:41
tsimpsonstill failing here21:42
genii-aroundBah here too. Although my regular nick just logged in again so maybe he's bringing the Quassel core up/down or such21:42
genii-around(though atm still can't connect with the client to it)21:42
tsimpsonicmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable21:43
tsimpsonthat is not a good sign21:43
genii-aroundBleh21:44
tsimpsonthe nicks will probably get disconnected soon21:44
jussi01genii-around: ping21:44
genii-aroundjussi01: Pong21:45
jussi01genii-around: I set it up on ubottu.com for now, if you need quassel. only old backlog tho21:45
genii-aroundjussi01: OK, thanks. So just change servername then?21:45
jussi01yea21:45
tsimpsonyou server's like a yo-yo recently21:45
genii-aroundWill do, back in a bit21:45
jussi01tsimpson: yeah, dunno whats going on. not in finland atm..21:46
jussi01theres been some trouble with the cluster afaik21:46
geniiWow. *really* old buffers21:47
jussi01genii: yeah :P21:51
geniijussi01: I'm just glad everything's back up21:52
jussi01genii: everything isnt back up...21:52
jussi01genii: I just started the core on the other server...21:53
geniijussi01: Maybe that explains the weird core lag jumps I just had21:54
geniiOK, "work is done" alarm clock sounded. LAters22:02
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