[00:28] <tyabux> JariSheri has an onjoin advertisement on #ubuntu. It's annoying.
[00:29] <Flannel> tyabux: Thanks.  What for?
[00:30] <tyabux> some food chain, I think. 
[00:30] <Flannel> tyabux: That's sort of odd.  Alright, thanks.
[00:30] <tyabux> it is. 
[02:49] <jrib> !firewall
[02:51] <jrib> !firewall ~= s#Firestarter#Firestarter/Gufw#
[02:51] <jrib> !~firewall
[03:03] <LjL> !staff
[03:03] <LjL> !ops
[03:03] <LjL> please have my ubuntu member cloak removed
[03:03] <LjL> and my op privileges too
[03:03] <jrib> LjL: ?
[03:03] <LjL> jrib: see #freenode.
[03:03] <LjL> i'm sick and tired of dealing with trolls, reporting them to #freenode, and getting a prick like Lorez treating me like a fucker.
[03:03] <LjL> Seveas was right
[03:04] <LjL> this network sucks
[03:04] <LjL> i don't want to be associated with it anymore
[03:38] <LjL^> besides, now it's 4am and i cannot even sleep. that's certainly my own problem with taking the internet too seriously, but still that doesn't dismiss the behavior that caused it
[03:38] <LjL^> i should be saying this somewhere else as #ubuntu-ops isn't really the right place, but then neither is #freenode, so.
[03:39] <LjL^> you will find me in #gentoo-ops. you will find me in #fedora-ops. i think if you ask, they'll tell you i've been helpful and friendly - at least i hope so
[03:39] <LjL^> you also know i pushed #ubuntu-irc for various ubuntu channels to communicate better, and i'd say it's working, as it's being actively used by several loco channels
[03:39] <LjL^> i've tried to work in integration
[03:40] <LjL^> and the result is that all this work is made worthless by some i'm-holier-than-though member of freenode staff who just won't k-line an obvious multi-channel spammer
[03:40] <LjL^> perhaps christel should, instead of sending out a call for new staff members, review some of her previous staff
[03:41] <LjL^> rather than make half of the ubuntu irc people staff themselves so there's no one left to complain
[03:41] <LjL^> seveas was right, this network is rotten
[03:41] <LjL^> what makes it rotten is people like lorez, but also a general attitude of "once you're staff, you're another person"
[03:41] <LjL^> everyone could see this happening with pricechild for instance
[03:42] <LjL^> i don't know what kind of brainwashing you do to staff, christel - but it's effective, BUT it's not effective in the sense that it makes the network better
[03:43] <LjL^> #freenode is full of non-staff idiots who're ready to tell you that "this is channel policy not a network problem", "just /ignore him", "what do we care"
[03:43] <LjL^> nothing is ever said about them
[03:44] <LjL^> on the other hand, i can be sure that a good 30% of the times i report a spammer or something, i get lorez treating me rudely
[04:26] <tritium> @login
[04:26] <tritium> @btlogin
[05:43] <balzac>      /msg nickserv set hidemail on  
[05:43] <balzac> oops, sorry
[05:45] <balzac> anyone feeling conversational?
[06:07] <bazhang> genii, sorry not to respond earlier; I think you meant bolt_ with the random questions and PMs 
[07:58] <Flannel> caskets?
[08:00] <Madpilot> caskets for trolls? I'm in favour!
[08:00] <Flannel> Ads for caskets.
[08:00] <bazhang> hehe
[08:00] <Flannel> Not quite the same.  Similar in theory though.
[08:12] <Flannel> Meh.  Spammers.
[08:13] <Flannel> Theres no real recourse for onjoin spam, is there.
[08:15] <Flannel> I imagine staff can do something about it?
[08:16] <Flannel> Actually, I take that back.  Probably cant.
[08:23] <geekphreek> spammer = A_Girl_Named_Tra
[08:23] <geekphreek> told to drop the spammer names in here?
[08:24] <Flannel> geekphreek: Yep.  We'll look into it.  Thanks.
[08:24] <geekphreek> ok, be prepared for a list because they happen every 2 to 3 minutes =\
[08:26] <Flannel> Amaranth: Anything you can think of that we can do about it?
[08:26] <Amaranth> /cs lart?
[08:27] <Flannel> Amaranth: Said spammer has the same IP.  Unfortunately, the person getting the list isn't the same person.
[08:27] <Flannel> They log on, spam, log back off, come back with a new nick, etc.
[08:28] <Amaranth> eh?
[08:28] <Amaranth> If they always have the same IP this seems easy
[08:28] <Flannel> If we can get a K-train, sure.
[08:28] <Flannel> But they never join the channel.
[08:28] <Amaranth> Oh, they spam in PM
[08:28] <Flannel> Aye
[08:28] <Amaranth> Give up then
[08:28] <Amaranth> freenode doesn't kline such people
[08:28] <Flannel> Amaranth: Its apparently happening every few minutes.
[08:29] <Amaranth> (see rant earlier)
[08:29] <Flannel> Amaranth: Aye, I did.
[08:29] <Flannel> But, that's not a good answer.
[08:29] <Amaranth> Most you can do is ignore PMs from that IP
[08:29] <Flannel> Well, they're not hitting me.
[08:29] <Amaranth> get-off-freenode-spec?
[08:29]  * Amaranth wonders if that is still on the wiki
[08:29] <Flannel> It should be, yeah.
[08:30] <christel> Flannel: klined, thanks for heads-up
[08:30] <Flannel> I've had my nick registered on oftc for a while now, just in case ;)
[08:30] <elky_> christel, you rock, as usual :)
[08:30] <Amaranth> I should do that, dunno if I have already
[08:30] <Amaranth> At least half our users would transfer over automatically with irc.ubuntu.com...
[08:31] <Flannel> It'd still be nice not to have to.  Itd be a rather disruptive move.
[08:31] <christel> elky_: hardly! thats why we're here -- but thank you for the kind words! <3
[08:32] <elky_> Amaranth, oh please, oftc is useless for spam and harrassment.
[08:33] <Amaranth> elky_: I wasn't specifically talking about that one
[08:33] <Flannel> Amaranth: really, they'd just come whereever we are though.
[08:33] <Myrtti> gmoin
[08:33] <Amaranth> elky_: We seem to have enough ops to always have someone around, for example
[08:33]  * popey huggles Myrtti 
[08:33] <Amaranth> make them all staff on a canonical hosted server
[08:33] <Amaranth> well, maybe not all
[08:33] <Flannel> Amaranth: That's likely more trouble than its worth.
[08:34] <Amaranth> it'd mean the IRC server dies on release day
[08:34] <Flannel> Haha
[08:34] <Amaranth> that would be a good thing, me thinks
[08:34] <popey> :)
[08:35] <elky_> Amaranth, freenode and ubuntu have a good system going now. lets not meddle with a working system
[08:35] <Amaranth> elky_: My view of the system is: if I can't handle it by banning people I give up
[08:36] <Amaranth> Because the few times I've tried going to staff nothing happened
[08:36] <elky_> the perceived problem earlier i believe stemmed mostly from unhelpful helpers buffering and misleading staff, not from staff themselves
[08:36] <Amaranth> Hell, I don't think I've ever had staff actually help me with _anything_
[08:36] <elky_> Amaranth, i have staff help me almost daily
[08:36] <Amaranth> I'm pretty sure the compiz project registration is still pending, for example
[08:36] <Amaranth> going on 2 years now
[08:36]  * Flannel hardly interacts with staff, obviously is ill-suited for this discussion.
[08:37] <Flannel> I could make up opinions of them if you want though!
[08:37] <Amaranth> we still don't have #compiz, luckily when the whole compiz fusion thing happened the owner of the channel was able to be contacted and setup a forward to #compiz-fusion
[08:38] <Flannel> geekphreek: We think the spamming issue is solved.  If there's nothing else we can help you with, please don't idle here.  Feel free to come back if it resumes.  Thanks.
[08:38] <geekphreek> ok, thanks
[09:18] <s3r3n1t7> ubottu seems very very slow today, if he responds at all. Not sure if it was known yet, just thought it should be reported.
[09:18] <Myrtti> it's been slow for days
[09:18] <Myrtti> anything else?
[09:19] <s3r3n1t7> it has? haven't noticed it until now. Nah, that's just about it. Tnx
[10:28]  * popey sighs at yet more pm's from bolt_
[10:28] <ikonia> popey: I'll speak to him about it - he's been warned
[10:28] <ikonia> kimi is a moron - he knows it's a bot
[10:29] <elky> christel, are you still around?
[10:30] <christel> i am 
[10:30] <christel> what can i do you for? :)
[10:34] <elky> christel, a private conversation, if i may?
[10:35] <elky> ikonia, he knows it's a bot, yes. i suspect he thinks that it'll make us give him the answers out of pity
[10:35] <christel> elky: certainly )
[10:35] <ikonia> I bet it's a conversation about shoes
[10:36] <elky> ikonia, or calendars ;)
[10:36]  * ikonia backs off
[10:36] <elky> tehehe
[10:37] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu bolt_ pm'ing people after multiple warnings not to - forwarded to -ops
[10:52] <elky> ugh, again?
[12:26] <bazhang> wowzor. bolt_ just never learns
[12:27] <ikonia> he's gone, so it's not a problem any more
 any good place to chat when drunk? talk to funny people and all.  <ruh roh>
[12:51] <elky> bazhang, send em to #defocus. it's there for a reason
[12:58] <bazhang> elky, at that point he was already directed to #ubuntu-offtopic . you are welcome to direct him there.
[13:01] <ikonia> 12:38 -!- Irssi: |ns|nR8 [n=vv@CPE-58-167-43-118.vic.bigpond.net.au] [top secret] has joined to IRC
[13:02] <ikonia> confirmed panarchy
[13:08] <elky_> how is that confirmed panarchy?
[13:08] <ikonia> busted him
[13:08] <ikonia> in a pm 
[13:08] <bazhang> nicely done
[13:08] <ikonia> he logged out
[13:09] <elky_> he must be leeching wifi hotspots then
[13:09] <ikonia> yes, it's a different ISP than normal
[13:10] <elky_> thefeds has taken to using microsoft nicks from his 3g connection
[13:10] <ikonia> what was his recent one
[13:11] <elky_> an ip, not a hostmask
[13:11] <ikonia> I meant his nicks
[13:11] <elky_> microsoft_xp_pro or something equally idiotic
[13:11] <ikonia> oh, is that him 
[13:11] <elky_> almost certain.
[13:12] <ikonia> he hit about 10 channels last night, he was the one ljl blew up over
[13:12] <elky_> mentioning 'thefeds' has the connection killing powahs
[13:13] <bazhang> yep its him
[13:13] <bazhang> thefeds and nicotine withdrawal
[13:13] <elky_> the ip resolved to Hutchison Telecommunications which is 3mobile here in aus
[13:14] <elky_> saying 'oh hello thefeds' was not what he expected
[13:14] <ikonia> delightful
[13:14] <elky_> i think i was supposed to kick a stink about the nick
[13:14] <bazhang> so eeepc-ot is their new staging ground?
[13:15] <ikonia> yup
[13:15] <ikonia> thats the current troll pit of choice
[13:15] <bazhang> yuck
[13:16] <elky_> 'their'?
[13:17] <elky_> please tell me panarchy and thefeds are not in cohorts...
[13:17] <elky_> i will have to cry.
[13:17] <ikonia> doubtful
[13:17] <ikonia> panarchy is too dumb
[13:17] <bazhang> dont forget dont_tase_me_bro (balzac)
[13:17] <ikonia> and even other trolls can't be bothered with him
[13:54] <elky> nadan is ringing bells, but i cant place them
[14:14] <ikonia> marcel is getting annoying now
[14:15] <Pici> I think if it continues the conversation should move here or to pm.
[14:15] <ikonia> I've just tried to "end" it
[14:16] <bazhang> I saw some talk earlier of refreshing the access lists; was that just hypothetical
[14:16] <Pici> bazhang: for?
[14:16] <bazhang> access list for #ubuntu channels Pici 
[14:16] <ikonia> I didn't see any talk on that ?
[14:17] <Pici> bazhang: I'm not sure what you mean by refreshing them..
[14:17] <ikonia> are they out od date ?
[14:17] <ikonia> of
[14:17] <bazhang> uhh, giving more access to those who have to run here everytime there is a meltdown in certain channels?
[14:17] <bazhang> the ongoing month upon month one?
[14:18] <ikonia> I'm lost
[14:18] <bazhang> sure, you have access in them all.
[14:19] <ikonia> ?? I've got access in 3 channels
[14:19] <ikonia> (or 3 that I know of) 
[14:19] <bazhang> never mind then.
[14:19] <ikonia> sorry, I'm lost
[14:19] <Pici> bazhang is referring to the fact that some operators dont have access to -offtopic for example.
[14:20] <Myrtti> I think we have too many unactive ops in the access lists
[14:20] <ikonia> ahh
[14:20] <bazhang> and #kubuntu
[14:20] <ikonia> bazhang: sorry - missed totally what you where saying
[14:24] <bazhang> o/
[14:24]  * elky hugs LjL
[14:25] <bazhang> :0
[14:25] <elky> LjL, if you feel like talking, could i perhaps have a quick word?
[14:25] <Pici> Guess not.
[14:25] <elky_> bah
[14:26] <ikonia> too slow
[14:27] <bazhang> gafir> I would like to wear skirts, but they force me to wear pants
[14:27] <bazhang> egregious offtopic post for the day 
[14:30] <genii-around> jussi's site seems down for me, but can someone else please confirm?
[14:31] <ikonia> sure
[14:31] <ikonia> dead
[14:31] <Pici> eh?
[14:32] <genii-around> ikonia: OK, thanks
[14:32] <ikonia> Pici: jussi's site is down
[14:32] <ikonia> bots still fine though
[14:32] <Pici> I can get the the bantracker fine.
[14:32] <ikonia> Pici: no, jussi01.com
[14:33] <ikonia> the other sites on the box are fine
[14:33] <ikonia> actually, there is another site on his box that is also down
[14:33] <genii-around> When the jussi01 site is off, I have to switch IRC clients because usually we connect to the Quassel core of that box
[14:34] <ikonia> genii-around: I know he's been having issues with the core a bit
[14:34] <Pici> oh
[14:34] <Pici> I ssh to my linode for irssi
[14:34] <ikonia> same here, I just use a box in a DC with irssi 
[14:52] <elky> please all let ljl cool off and come back on his own terms.
[14:53] <bazhang> heh
[14:53] <bazhang> #ubuntu-bt
[14:54] <bazhang> for all your torrent needs
[14:54] <elky> you kid, right?
[14:54] <bazhang> ljl just mistyped br/pt for protugues support channel
[14:54] <bazhang> portuguese
[14:54] <bazhang> ugh
[14:55] <elky> .BT	country-code	Bhutan
[14:55] <bazhang> aww, pesky facts
[14:57] <elky> anyway beddybyes for me
[14:57] <Pici> elky: goodnight :)
[15:09] <Myrtti> cheese ♥ 
[15:15] <bazhang> * [killedkillerc] (n=logan@12-201-8-6.client.mchsi.com): logan
[15:15] <bazhang> seems familiar
[15:23] <ikonia> !test
[15:25] <bazhang> badfish69!n=deadbody@12-201-8-6.client.mchsi.com
[15:52] <pleia2> we've got some charmers in #ubuntu-classroom
[15:52] <pleia2> 10:49:16 < kaethornetehrogu> pleia stfu were all in the same class atm chillax
[15:52] <pleia2> 10:51:40 < elgoog> so... pleia why do u suck so much cock?
[15:52] <pleia2> removed and they're staying away for now, just FYI
[15:53] <pleia2> in case they decide to troll elsewhere :)
[15:53] <bazhang> oh too late
[15:53] <bazhang> thanks for the warning pleia2 
[15:53] <pleia2> DakotaRichins appears to be with them too, but he's been tame
[16:05] <bazhang> oh nice 
[16:05] <pleia2> indeed
[16:06] <bazhang> seem to be the similar ip
[16:06] <pleia2> they're all at school, that should keep them out for now
[16:06] <bazhang> whoa identical in fact
[16:06] <pleia2> yeah, they said they are all in a class together
[16:07] <bazhang> oh, trolling #ubuntu channels, what fun
[16:27] <Pici> Its too bad that /topics don't support <blink> tags
[16:28] <ikonia> ha
[16:28] <ikonia> get to work on it, update ircd
[16:28] <popey> it's too bad the /topic can't leap off the screen and beat the contents of itself into the user
[16:28] <ikonia> that would be an interesting feature
[16:29] <Pici> +1 for that too
[18:10] <Pici> !test
[18:53] <Pici> Ugh.
[18:53] <Pici> Seems like its offtopic day.
[19:19] <genii-around> I think I'm going to need a chiropractor now
[19:19] <Pici> genii-around: Why's that?
[19:20] <genii-around> Pici: We just manhandled a 5 ton air conditioning unit around on the roof.
[19:22] <Pici> genii-around: oof
[19:22] <Pici> I was waiting for that.
[19:23] <genii-around> The exploit notices?
[19:24] <Pici> I expected zewb to do something.
[19:24] <Pici> I should have banned him as soon as I saw him
[19:39] <genii-around> On the good side, the exertion seems to have squeezed out the broken-off cat claws in my arm from bathing our semi-feral pets last night
[19:44] <jussi01_> grumble
[19:44] <jussi01_> servers down for some reason
[19:44] <jussi01_> ikonia: ping
[19:44] <Pici> jussi01_: he mentioned it earlier.
[19:45] <Pici> jpds: Could you tell ubot4 to stop parsing bugs in #ubuntu-irc?
[19:45] <jussi01_> Pici: mentioned what?
[19:45] <Pici> 09:30:58 <genii-around> jussi's site seems down for me, but can someone else please confirm?
[19:45] <Pici> 09:32:20 <ikonia> Pici: jussi's site is down
[19:45] <jussi01_> oh
[19:46] <jussi01_> yeah
[19:46] <jussi01_> anyone seen ikonia ? 
[19:59] <genii-around> Pici you think his client is responsible for the dbl-posts?
[19:59] <Pici> genii-around: mibbit?
[20:00] <genii-around> Apparently
[20:00] <Pici> genii-around: I was just using it to test something a few minutes ago and it was fine.
[20:00] <genii-around> Weird
[20:00] <Pici> gonna unban.
[20:01] <Pici> feel free to rectify if needed.
[20:01] <genii-around> I'm not an #u op
[20:10] <Flannel> Who are we keeping an eye on?
[20:10] <Flannel> Ah
[21:33] <tsimpson> laggy bot
[21:33] <tsimpson> @ping
[21:34] <Pricey> Hey all.
[21:41] <tsimpson> oO, when did I get here
[21:41] <genii-around> Hmm. <dares to hope jussi's site is back up>
[21:42] <tsimpson> still failing here
[21:42] <genii-around> Bah here too. Although my regular nick just logged in again so maybe he's bringing the Quassel core up/down or such
[21:42] <genii-around> (though atm still can't connect with the client to it)
[21:43] <tsimpson> icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
[21:43] <tsimpson> that is not a good sign
[21:44] <genii-around> Bleh
[21:44] <tsimpson> the nicks will probably get disconnected soon
[21:44] <jussi01> genii-around: ping
[21:45] <genii-around> jussi01: Pong
[21:45] <jussi01> genii-around: I set it up on ubottu.com for now, if you need quassel. only old backlog tho
[21:45] <genii-around> jussi01: OK, thanks. So just change servername then?
[21:45] <jussi01> yea
[21:45] <tsimpson> you server's like a yo-yo recently
[21:45] <genii-around> Will do, back in a bit
[21:46] <jussi01> tsimpson: yeah, dunno whats going on. not in finland atm..
[21:46] <jussi01> theres been some trouble with the cluster afaik
[21:47] <genii> Wow. *really* old buffers
[21:51] <jussi01> genii: yeah :P
[21:52] <genii> jussi01: I'm just glad everything's back up
[21:52] <jussi01> genii: everything isnt back up...
[21:53] <jussi01> genii: I just started the core on the other server...
[21:54] <genii> jussi01: Maybe that explains the weird core lag jumps I just had
[22:02] <genii> OK, "work is done" alarm clock sounded. LAters
[22:19] <Guest93564> hello
[22:19] <Guest93564> привет
[22:19] <Guest93564> привіт
[22:20] <Guest93564> тут хтось є?