[00:24] <BigMoopies> Is it possible to make orange , or the clock to display the day? (Monday, Tuesday, etc)
[00:24] <knome> orage you mean
[00:25] <knome> BigMoopies, right click -> properties: %A to any line you want
[00:25] <knome> BigMoopies, you can also use %a to get Mon, Tue etc.
[00:26] <BigMoopies> knome, in orange preferences ?
[00:26] <knome> BigMoopies, no, right click the clock on the panel
[00:27] <BigMoopies> OK.  I only see Apperance , Digital, Show frame, clock options: 24 hour, show am/pm , display seconds
[00:27] <knome> BigMoopies, which xubuntu version?
[00:27] <BigMoopies> Hardy
[00:27] <knome> right...
[00:28] <knome> i'm not sure if it can do it then
[00:28] <BigMoopies> OK.  I'll upgrade to Jaunty if it doesn't screw around with my NIC like Intrepid did
[00:28] <knome> BigMoopies, oh, wait!
[00:28] <knome> BigMoopies, i think you have the other clock appelt
[00:29] <knome> BigMoopies, right click, add new items and add orage clock
[00:29] <BigMoopies> OK, then I can just get rid of the standard clock ?
[00:30] <knome> sure
[00:30] <knome> right click and remove
[00:31] <BigMoopies> ok that works
[00:31] <knome> good to hear
[00:31] <knome> and good night
[00:31] <BigMoopies> I told it to set time to central time
[00:31] <knome> yeah?
[00:31] <BigMoopies> How do I make it update to that ? or did it once I clicked OK ?
[00:32] <BigMoopies> "/usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Central"
[00:32] <knome> hmh, not sure
[00:32] <knome> charlie-tca, ^ ?
[00:32] <knome> have to go to bed now
[00:32] <BigMoopies> ok ll
[00:32] <BigMoopies> lol*
[00:32] <knome> i hope somebody will help you soonish
[00:32] <knome> charlie-tca should be here in a minute :P
[00:32] <knome> ->
[00:33] <BigMoopies> Is he your low wage worker? :o
[00:33] <BigMoopies> j/k
[00:34] <cody-somerville> charlie-tca is the Xubuntu Quality Assurance Lead
[00:34] <BigMoopies> Hm.  Quality Assurance Lead?
[00:38] <cody-somerville> Indeed
[00:39] <BigMoopies> What's that? Sounds like something to do with a call center or tech support
[02:56] <J_Litewski> HA!
[02:56] <J_Litewski> there we go
[02:57] <J_Litewski> ndiswrapper isn't all that hard to use
[03:04] <J_Litewski> ok, i got a netgear WG111v2 USB dongle, and I can't get it to work
[03:05] <J_Litewski> I already tried the netgear .inf files and the realtek .inf files in ndiswrapper 1.9, nether activate the dongle
[03:05] <J_Litewski> ndis wrapper states that it's there
[03:09] <J_Litewski> aparently, it's working
[03:10] <J_Litewski> nevermind on that question then
[03:37] <DiecastMessiah> Hailz all
[03:41] <DiecastMessiah> I have a bitch of a time with xfce panel ... all was working but it closed while trying to move my trash bin.... I can get it open when i use the termal and then get to setting and all works.. but as soon as I close the terminal window the panel closes again
[03:42] <DiecastMessiah> is there a setting file i could delete and reboot to reset it?
[03:44] <DiecastMessiah> wow the whole room dead?
[03:44] <pleia2> DiecastMessiah: try launching it from the alt f2 launcher rather than the terminal
[03:44] <DiecastMessiah> ohh thanks... way didn't think of that lol
[03:44] <pleia2> :)
[03:45] <DiecastMessiah> SWEET
[03:45] <DiecastMessiah> worked... going to restart and see if it stays
[04:21] <rixv> hello, I'm a newbie, can anyone pls help me setup my modem on a IBM Thinkpad iSeries 1200?
[04:37] <zerothis> Anybody know how to get a Lexmark X4530m working with Linux (scan and print, usb or wireless)?
[05:29] <iox> hey everyone! :)
[07:56] <marcPV> good morning
[07:57] <marcPV> anyone know how to install a truetype font on xubuntu?
[08:00] <marcPV> anyone alive here?
[08:02] <forces> marcPV, install packages xubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:02] <marcPV> sorry im really new to linux so you have to be more explicit, please
[08:08] <forces> marcPV, open a terminal
[08:08] <forces> then write this
[08:08] <forces> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:09] <marcPV> ok wait a min
[08:09] <marcPV> anyway i already have the font i want to install
[08:12] <marcPV> its intalling right now, then what?
[08:20] <marcPV> ok i already installed the xubuntu-restricted-extras, now what i have to do with the font i want to install?
[08:25] <marcPV> please, anyone?
[08:26] <_Pete_> I'm sure anyone will respond when have time/knowledge
[08:26] <_Pete_> before that just wait
[08:29] <marcPV> i guess, sorry... it seems that forces is busy
[08:30] <forces> :O
[08:31] <forces> marcPV, you already have installed ms-fonts
[08:31] <forces> just use it
[08:32] <SliMM> I have a problem with font dpi in xubuntu
[08:32] <SliMM> most of my fonts are all of a sudden larger
[08:33] <marcPV> thanks anyway but my question is about how to install concrete truetype font
[08:33] <marcPV> i have the ttf file and i want to use it
[08:34] <forces> marcPV, you can install it from repositories
[08:34] <forces> you dont need a file
[08:34] <forces> SliMM, edit your xorg.conf
[08:34] <forces> !xorg | SliMM
[08:35] <marcPV> the thing is i have to make a document with that ttf file they send to me
[08:35] <marcPV> sorry i am totally rookie, how may i use repositories to install it?
[08:37] <SliMM> forces: I have restarted X
[08:37] <SliMM> no result
[08:37] <forces> SliMM, not restart
[08:38] <forces> edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:38] <SliMM> well, there's nothing to edit there
[08:38] <SliMM> my resolution is correct
[08:38] <SliMM> the font size is wrong
[08:38] <SliMM> and this is a problem I have encountered only in xubuntu
[08:40] <SliMM> could it be bacause of the ubuntu updates?
[08:40] <forces> you can edit your font size in xorg.conf
[08:42] <forces> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
[08:43] <forces> "Set Correct Font Size"
[08:51] <marcPV> ok i found the way to install fonts on xubuntu from TTF files: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=797173
[08:53] <marcPV> thanks anyway
[08:54] <marcPV> now... how can i remove xubuntu-restricted-extras?
[08:54] <marcPV> (just kidding)
[08:58] <forces> u.u
[09:00] <marcPV> see u
[10:22] <zeltak> hi guys..just installed mythbuntu (with xubuntu desktop). its missing language support anyone care to guide me on how to add it?
[10:27] <SiDi> zeltak, hello
[10:27] <zeltak> hi
[10:27] <SiDi> Go to apps -> system -> Language support
[10:28] <SiDi> It should normally notice that you're missing some language packages and offer you to download and install them.
[10:28] <zeltak> hmm i dont have these menus
[10:28] <zeltak> i have an application menu>system but now language menu
[10:29] <zeltak> *no
[10:29] <SiDi> open a console and launch "gnome-language-selector"
[10:30] <SiDi> it should be there, at least in 8.04/8.10 (probably in other versions too)
[10:30] <zeltak> not installed.. i guess ill install these packages
[10:31] <zeltak> what i want is to keep english as the main lang. but have other languages support
[10:55] <SiDi> this app will check for missing language packages
[11:48] <gorgut> hey guys. I'm forwarding an X session via ssh. I am running a program on another computer and I needed to reboot this one, so I ctrl+Z'ed and put the forwarded window in the background with the "bg" command. Now that I rebooted, is there a way to pull that window back up over a new ssh session?
[11:50] <_Pete_> I think not without starting the app again over new ssh session
[11:51] <gorgut> hrm. well, the app was working when i backgrounded it
[11:51] <gorgut> it was encoding a DVD, actually
[11:52] <_Pete_> I guess when the forwarded X11 app loses the ssh connection
[11:52] <_Pete_> it will terminate
[11:52] <gorgut> hrm. i see...
[11:53] <gorgut> is there a way to just "detatch" the window (kinda like you can do with the "screen" command) for GUI windows?
[11:53] <_Pete_> not any of I know
[11:53] <_Pete_> better use freenx for those
[11:54] <gorgut> well, I'm not wanting to maintain the ssh connection the entire time
[11:54] <_Pete_> freenx is perfect then
[11:54] <_Pete_> you cat detach session and reconnect later
[11:54] <gorgut> interesting...
[11:55] <gorgut> ok. i'll read up on that. Thanks
[11:55] <_Pete_> like screen but for whole desktop session
[12:54] <jinggoy> hi
[12:55] <jinggoy> guys, is there any way i can determine the computers w/c are connected on me?
[12:57] <ablomen> jinggoy, connected how?
[13:01] <jinggoy> my downloads are getting slower, i'm thinking of other units w/c are connecting on me..
[13:11] <kromar> how can i change the size of my partitions and create a new one?
[13:11] <Raggs> kromar, with parted
[13:11] <Raggs> gparted actually is easy
[13:12] <kromar> it only finds qtparted in the add/remove app
[13:12] <kromar> does that work also?
[13:12] <Raggs> yes
[13:12] <Raggs> but back up stuff before you do anything
[13:13] <kromar> there is also a gnome partition editor and KVPM, which one would you recommend?
[13:13] <Raggs> gnome partition editor i believe is GParted
[13:14] <Raggs> just checked, it is, do you have a live CD with gparted on it?
[13:14] <kromar> why would i need a cd with it?
[13:15] <Raggs> because you cant edit a partition that is in use
[13:16] <Raggs> i think xubuntu has gparted
[13:16] <Raggs> not totally sure though
[13:17] <Raggs> kromar, what do you need the new partition for/
[13:17] <kromar> well i installed new hardware and windofs doesnt start anymore, so i need a new one to install a new version...
[13:18] <Raggs> windows wont start?
[13:18] <kromar> nope blue screen ftw...
[13:18] <kromar> well i changed the mainboard, cpu, gpu.. so might be a problem for it
[13:19] <Raggs> no doubt, can you access your windows partition from linux?
[13:19] <kromar> yes
[13:20] <Raggs> anything there you need to save?
[13:21] <kromar> you think it would be easier to backup the things i need and format the disk?^
[13:21] <Raggs> kromar, it is hard to say without knowing what is on the disk
[13:22] <kromar> well there are a lot of programms and settings for everything, but i think i have to format it anyway, so no need for an other partition..
[13:23] <Raggs> you will hoever need to reinstall a boot loader
[13:27] <kromar> oh man thats gona be a pain to reinstall:/
[13:35] <kromar> is there a way to directly delete files without moving them to the trash?
[13:35] <_Pete_> press shift while selecting delete from meny
[13:36] <_Pete_> or use commandline :)
[13:43] <knome> or shift+delete
[14:01] <basajaun> hi I have two versions of xubuntu installed on two hard drives  of the same computer in order to access some files on one of the drives I have made changes to permissions which means that when I log onto the other drive/version my permissions are messed up is there a way to change that ?
[14:36] <basajaun> have problems with change made to permissions on a hard drive containing another version of ubuntu
[14:53] <genady12> how do I connect to ppp with xubuntu? I added connection in networkmanager whats now?
[14:59] <Skizoboy> hey there
[15:00] <Skizoboy> anybody here?
[15:02] <_Pete_> no
[15:02] <SiDi> no
[15:02] <SiDi> We're all away, sorry
[15:03] <SiDi> (feel free to ask a question, Skizoboy, if anybod knows the answer they'll tell you)
[15:03] <Skizoboy> well
[15:04] <Skizoboy> I have a Xubuntu box I used to use as a NAS
[15:04] <Skizoboy> I only have Macs on this network
[15:05] <Skizoboy> and the Xubuntu box was running 8.04.1
[15:05] <Skizoboy> last week I installed 9.04
[15:06] <Skizoboy> and it works great
[15:06] <Skizoboy> but I cant get Netatak to work
[15:06] <Skizoboy> Netatalk*
[15:07] <Skizoboy> I need to know if the new version included in Xubuntu supports encryption
[15:08] <Skizoboy> (Excuse my English BTW, I'm French :)
[15:08] <knome> Skizoboy, 'apt-cache policy netatalk' to get the version number
[15:09] <knome> Skizoboy, i don't know the app so i can't help you more. the version should be at least the same that is in intrepid
[15:09] <Skizoboy> 2.0.4 beta 2
[15:09] <Skizoboy> well it was 2.03 before
[15:09] <Skizoboy> and I remember I had to tweak it
[15:10] <knome> Skizoboy, so maybe you need to tweak this new version also, if you didn't do an upgrade
[15:10] <Skizoboy> now the tutorial I had used to add SSL support doesn't work anymore
[15:10] <knome> Skizoboy, try on web.archive.org
[15:10] <knome> Skizoboy, or google cache
[15:10] <Skizoboy> I still have the instructions
[15:11] <knome> right
[15:11] <knome> i have to go now
[15:11] <Skizoboy> but it seems impossible to add SSL to this new version
[15:11] <knome> i will be back later, if you still need help
[15:11] <Skizoboy> ok, thx :)
[15:11] <knome> Skizoboy, you can also try #ubuntu, because this is not xubuntu-sepcific
[15:11] <knome> *specific
[15:12] <Skizoboy> k, thx :)
[15:27] <basajaun> Have a problem with changes permissions
[16:00] <ecceberlin> how can I make xubuntu/xfce remember the desired screen resolution?
[16:00] <ecceberlin> it is reset on each reboot
[16:28] <Ruadh> Hi, all
[16:28] <Besogon> ecceberlin, I find out you problem!!!!
[16:30] <Besogon> ecceberlin, decision: change file ~/.config/monitors.xml
[16:33] <Besogon> Without thanks... Nice
[16:36] <Besogon> Ruadh, hi man
[16:50] <dean> hi guys, having a bit of trouble. trying to run xubuntu 9.04 as a little headless home server, but as soon as i detach the monitor cable it goes into "low graphics mode" on bootup and fails to reach desktop. any ideas?
[16:51] <cody-somerville> dean, Disable X from starting at boot
[16:52] <dean> yeh i tried that, but when i enter startx it launches a different, I believe standard non-ubuntu branded desktop
[16:52] <dean> does that make sense?
[16:54] <dean> I wouldnt worry about it being different but then it ties up my session on ssh and doesnt launch my autostart scripts i setup under the standard default xfce desktop (the xubuntu altered/branded one)
[16:58] <cody-somerville> you can do /etc/init.d/gdm start
[17:09] <Besogon> dean, Why do you do detach? Change your xorg.conf May be section "Monitor" has failed
[17:10] <cody-somerville> I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to modify xorg.conf
[17:12] <ecceberlin> Besogon, thanks, I was away for a while
[17:12] <ecceberlin> however,  ~/.config/monitors.xml does not exist
[17:12] <Besogon> cody-somerville, may be
[17:12] <ecceberlin> and there are correct settings in ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/displays.xml
[17:13] <ecceberlin> but they are ignored
[17:16] <Besogon> ecceberlin, I havent that file. ( xfce 4.4.2 was installed after ubuntu gnome).
[17:17] <Besogon> ecceberlin, Doesn't work ~/.config/monitors.xml?
[17:26] <alok_> hello is anyone here
[17:29] <Besogon> hello
[17:31] <alok_> Can anyone help me?
[17:31] <alok_> i am unable to create launchers
[17:34] <Besogon> What do you mean with word launchers (rockets) ))
[17:35] <alok_> oh iam sorry
[17:35] <alok_> i meant a shortcut
[17:35] <alok_> "launcher"
[17:36] <alok_> when i right click on the desktop and select "create launcher"
[17:36] <zoredache> can you be more specific?
[17:36] <alok_> a dialog box pops up
[17:36] <alok_> when i type a name for the launcher
[17:36] <alok_> the app just crashes
[17:37] <alok_> eventually i have to use "ln -s" but that's frustrating
[17:37] <zoredache> have you tried creating a different name?
[17:37] <zoredache> perhaps something simple like blah, foo, bar, or test?
[17:39] <alok_> Sir i cant even type a single letter
[17:39] <alok_> as i write anything in the "name" text box
[17:39] <alok_> the application crashes
[17:39] <alok_> and apport starts
[17:39] <dean> @ cody, if restarting gdm daemon works that would be ace! I can then simply setup init.d scripts for rtorrent and sabnbd and be doen with! thus saving on X running 24/7 for no reason
[17:39] <basajaun> changed permission on second hard drive which also contains aversion of xubuntu and  when I log using that version permissions are of course messed up any solution?
[17:40] <alok_> Is this ia a bug in xfce 4.6?
[17:40] <zoredache> I don't know, I haven't upgraded yet
[17:42] <bigzed> alok_, it works fine with my xfce 4.6
[17:42] <alok_> "exo-desktop-item-edit crashed with SIGSEGV in strstr()"
[17:42] <Besogon> "ln -s" must work whether or no.
[17:42] <alok_> sir this is what apport reports
[17:42] <alok_> " ln-s" works perfectly
[17:43] <alok_> and it lists "nvidia kernel module" as the culprit
[17:43] <alok_> anything to do with graphics driver?
[17:45] <bigzed> maybe, it works fine with an intel integrated chipset... maybe nvidia causes the crash
[17:47] <Besogon> alok_, hardly. I think if you have problem with video-driver you have trobble in almost all applications. II suggest to find out package for it and reinstall. Sorry I cant help you more.
[17:47] <alok_> just one more thing sir
[17:47] <alok_> i had installed the 173 series nvidia driver
[17:48] <alok_> do you think upgrading to the 180 series will help?
[17:50] <Besogon> alok_, I think no. But I have installed 180.44 series driver on my computer. (it seems work fine for me)
[17:53] <alok_> oh its a known problem
[17:53] <alok_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exo/+bug/288057
[17:53] <alok_> guess i will have to use thunar
[17:54] <Besogon> alok_, Are you from the German? )))
[17:55] <alok_> no
[17:55] <alok_> i use english india as the default language
[17:55] <alok_> Yes that is very starnge
[17:56] <alok_> it is listed that that bug affects only the german language
[17:56] <alok_> Thanks for the help sirs
[17:57] <alok_> when i create the desktop link from thunar it works
[17:57] <alok_> but now i get an arrow beneath the shortcut icon just like in windows
[17:57] <alok_> how i can remove that arrow?
[18:03] <Besogon> alok_, You are from India. I havent that. May be it only in xfce 4.6 you have. I not so experienced user. Sorry
[18:06] <ecceberlin> alok, a more elegant solution would be to write a .desktop file yourself
[18:06] <ecceberlin> you can look at examples in /usr/share/applications
[18:06] <ecceberlin> just create such a file in ~/Desktop
[18:15] <alok_> Thanks ecceberlin
[18:15] <alok_> let me give it a try
[18:16] <ecceberlin> if the application you want to launch, is in /usr/share/applications, you just need to copy the file to ~/Desktop
[18:17] <Ruadh> bbl
[18:20] <alok_> yes thanks
[18:20] <alok_> it surely works
[18:20] <ecceberlin> great :)
[18:24] <alok_> now that that problem is solved
[18:24] <alok_> can someone tell me how can i get totem to work with oss 4.1
[19:15] <orgthingy> hello, i seriously need help! whenever i play a video using vlc or mplayer, sometime during the video i get (any video btw..) at end of my ~/.xsession-errors file THIS http://pastebin.com/m77295d2a
[19:15] <orgthingy> please help me, it's *really* pissing me off, 'cause it logs me out of xfce and doesnt let me continue watching my videos :(
[19:18] <ron_o> you have a fatal error on your Xserver..
[19:18] <ron_o> besides that, I don't know. :/
[19:18] <orgthingy> ron_o: yes, i already know that :(
[19:18] <orgthingy> solution anyone?
[19:19] <ron_o> I was being a being sarcastic.
[19:19] <ron_o> wicd-client.py
[19:19] <ron_o> that's python there.
[19:19] <ron_o> run your video in a terminal and maybe you can track down the error there.
[19:19] <orgthingy> ron_o: it's not just wicd-client
[19:19] <orgthingy> its many apps
[19:19] <ron_o> pipe the output to a file.
[19:20] <ron_o> but it's just the video no?
[19:20] <orgthingy> what do you mean?
[19:21] <ron_o> well if it's crashing your system, then you can run your video program in a terminal. That will give you feedback what's going on all the time. But if your system crashes, then what?
[19:22] <ron_o> you can run a command and pipe it to any file with the >
[19:22] <orgthingy> i know, ron_o
[19:23] <ron_o> ok, sorry.
[19:23] <ron_o> besides that I can't help you.
[19:23] <orgthingy> i've ran wicd-client using GNU Screen
[19:23] <orgthingy> but, ill see what will it "produce" when it crashes
[19:23] <orgthingy> crashing time! *opens some vid*
[19:24] <ron_o> anyway, do you have widgets running?
[19:24] <ron_o> http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/api/libxfcegui4/reference.html
[19:24] <ron_o> libxfcegui4 Overview
[19:24] <ron_o> libxfcegui4-WARNING **: ICE I/O Error
[19:24] <orgthingy> yup, crashed
[19:24] <ron_o> that *looks* like where the problem lies.
[19:25] <orgthingy> ron_o: the pastebin text file showed more than one "app" crashes
[19:25] <orgthingy> ron_o: wicd-client.py: Fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0.
[19:25] <orgthingy> i got this
[19:25] <ron_o> yah.. so sorry.
[19:25]  * orgthingy cries
[19:26] <orgthingy> ron_o: if you found *anything* regard this please send me a pm or tell me here
[19:28] <ron_o> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-767958.html
[19:28] <ron_o> orgthingy, could that be it?
[19:28] <orgthingy> ron_o: ill read it
[19:29] <ron_o> that's probably not it.
[19:29] <ron_o> you have way too many errors.
[19:29] <ron_o> not just a few.
[19:30] <orgthingy> ron_o: but why does xfce log me out :(
[19:30] <orgthingy> cant vlc/totem just crash alone :'(
[19:30] <ron_o> yah, weird.
[19:30] <ron_o> that means it's an OS problem.
[19:30] <orgthingy> << X11 noob
[19:31] <orgthingy> ron_o: no, DE problem
[19:31] <orgthingy> ron_o: I had gnome before
[19:31] <orgthingy> now dont anymore (only xfce)
[19:31] <orgthingy> because of gnome broken deps in sid atm..etc
[19:31] <orgthingy> but it never ever happened to me in gnome
[19:32] <ron_o> for debugging try to use another window manager just to try to see where it's coming from.
[19:32] <orgthingy> ron_o: same with OpenBox/LXDE for some reason
[19:32] <orgthingy> but never on gnome..odd really
[19:32] <ron_o> man..
[19:33] <ron_o> so you installed Ubuntu with Gnome and then installed XFCE on top of it?
[19:33] <orgthingy> ron_o: I've been using Linux for 11 years now and never got such a "weird" situation
[19:33] <orgthingy> ron_o: yea, multiple-DE's
[19:33] <ron_o> never seen it before either.
[19:34] <ron_o> I had some problems with that so I know just use Xubuntu.
[19:34] <ron_o> too many ubuntu apps want to start automaticlly.
[19:37] <ron_o> I'm actually trying to figure out a probelm myself. I'm playing minesweeper and my mouse keeps going nuts when I play it. Only when I play that does it skip and hold and gyrate out of control.
[19:37] <ron_o> and usually only when I go really fast.
[19:39] <orgthingy> ron_o: i think it's dbus problems
[19:39] <orgthingy> but how to solve it i dont know
[19:39] <orgthingy> it's a shame that im a linux/unix consulter
[19:39] <orgthingy> for servers though, and dont know how to solve my own problems
[19:40] <ron_o> wow..
[19:41] <ron_o> the desktop is indeed a different ballgame altogether though. don't feel so bad.
[19:41] <ron_o> you shouldn't need X11 much.
[19:41]  * SiDi_unchoked reading what's going on!
[19:42] <orgthingy> linux user since 1998, consulter..simple problem i cannot solve :P ! i need to consult one
[19:42] <orgthingy> oh wait, im the only linux consulter in the whole god damn country :P !
[19:42] <orgthingy> all people here do windows support, which im happy off, since that helps me gain more money and customers :P
[19:43] <SiDi_unchoked> orgthingy, i'll be blatently helpful : use totem :D
[19:44] <orgthingy> SiDi_unchoked: this *is* totem
[19:44] <orgthingy> and vlc :P
[19:44] <SiDi_unchoked> yeh noticed rereading ur log
[19:44] <SiDi_unchoked> actually you might want to try jaunty, it has a new xfce and x.org :P
[19:44] <orgthingy> i will, probably
[19:46] <SiDi_unchoked> I asked in #xfce btw, they might know better than us
[19:46] <orgthingy> SiDi_unchoked: yea, appearntly no answer :(
[19:47] <orgthingy> ron_o: wait, it has dependencies problems
[19:47] <orgthingy> ill show you second
[19:49] <orgthingy> SiDi_unchoked and ron_o : http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7629/screenshoteqr.png
[19:49] <orgthingy> the thing is, I can't re-install gnome for dep problems
[19:49] <orgthingy> yet it causes problems..
[19:49] <orgthingy> should i remove it?
[19:50] <SiDi_unchoked> sudo apt-get reinstall ?
[19:50] <orgthingy> SiDi_unchoked: cant
[19:50] <SiDi_unchoked> You don't have any custom PPA?
[19:50] <orgthingy> dep problems...(not ready to explain 'how' i got dep problems but i cant really fix it atm, probably in a week)
[19:50] <orgthingy> SiDi_unchoked: I use debian unstable :P with ubuntu parts in it
[19:50] <SiDi_unchoked> you installed xorg/xfce from a server install ?
[19:51] <orgthingy> i call it orgbuntu sometimes, since it's a mixture
[19:51] <SiDi_unchoked> i see.. :P
[19:51] <orgthingy> SiDi_unchoked: xfce from repo
[19:51] <orgthingy> anyhow, i guess i should remove that package
[19:51] <orgthingy> it conflicts with other packages fhs!
[19:51] <SiDi_unchoked> well, you must be missing some packages :P
[19:51] <SiDi_unchoked> but we cant help you on orgbuntu :P
[19:52] <orgthingy> w00t!
[19:52]  * SiDi_unchoked goes back to his memory leaks in his BT client :( it's been stable for 2 hours :(
[19:52] <orgthingy> X problems are X problems after all!
[19:52] <orgthingy> SiDi_unchoked: memory leaks?
[19:52] <SiDi_unchoked> but this X is far above my knowledge :P
[19:52] <SiDi_unchoked> memory leaks, memory corruptions, various segfaults
[19:52] <SiDi_unchoked> happiness
[19:53] <orgthingy> I use KTorrent as a BT client
[19:53] <orgthingy> wonderful even though it's QT
[19:53] <SiDi_unchoked> supports DHT, stuff like that ? :P
[19:54] <orgthingy> SiDi_unchoked: yes ;)
[19:54] <SiDi_unchoked> (mine's here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/reztorrent it supports grabbing IPv4 IPs from TCP trackers, and answering to handshakes, and that's all :D)
[19:56] <orgthingy> THE VIDEO PLAYED
[19:56] <orgthingy> but then, i stopped the video, because of excitement
[19:56] <orgthingy> clicked on roxterm
[19:56] <orgthingy> then, it froze
[19:56] <SiDi_unchoked> and your PC burnt ? :P
[19:56] <orgthingy> logged me out of xfce..again
[19:56] <orgthingy> dammit xD
[20:00] <SiDi_unchoked> :d
[20:15] <Slonkie> What's the default chmod permission on folders?
[20:15] <zoredache> Slonkie: can you be more specific?
[20:16] <Raggs> drwxr-xr-x
[20:16] <zoredache> it depends a lot on the folder, and your umask
[20:16] <Slonkie> well i by mistake set chmod -R 000 on a folder of mine in the believe it would promt me for an password when i wanted to enter it
[20:16] <Slonkie> now i can't enter it at all
[20:17] <SiDi_SIGABRT> Slonkie, 755
[20:17] <Slonkie> Thanks, SiDi_SIGABRT :).
[20:17] <zoredache> Slonkie: if you want security on a folder look at setting up things like truecrypt, dm-crypt, or so on
[20:17] <SiDi_SIGABRT> i think he just wants to open his folder
[20:18] <Slonkie> well no i wanted to make it password protected
[20:18] <zoredache> SiDi_SIGABRT: which you helped him with...  I was trying to address the underlying issue
[20:18] <SiDi_SIGABRT> anyways default chmod is 755 ^^
[20:18] <SiDi_SIGABRT> zoredache, i see :p
[20:18] <Slonkie> thought it maybe was possible like that, somebody said that in a forum i saw.
[20:35] <SiDi_SIGABRT> Does anyone know about a simple and light library to handle HTTP requests, that is NOT libcurl ?
[20:37] <zoredache> what is you problem with curl?  And what language do you want to use it in?  Pythong has httplib
[20:42] <Slonkie> What is Xorg? It's using an impressive amount of CPU power
[20:43] <zoredache> xorg is the base component for the gui...
[20:43] <Slonkie> all right
[20:43] <SiDi_SIGABRT> zoredache, my problem is that i dont understand how im meant to send a get request and get my answer with it
[20:43] <Slonkie> thanks
[20:43] <SiDi_SIGABRT> i'm using C, zoredache
[20:49] <Slonkie> If i wanna remove an application i compiled myself, should i just delete the directory of the application?
[20:50] <SiDi_SIGABRT> if you did a make install there should also be a make clean or make remove
[20:51] <Slonkie> Thanks
[21:26] <Slonkie> Is it anyhow possible to get an location for an icon i made for the Applications menu?
[21:26] <Slonkie> I can't seem to find it :/
[21:27] <cody-somerville> Slonkie, Its probably where you saved it ;p
[21:27] <Slonkie> That's useful ;)
[21:27] <cody-somerville> Slonkie, Try Applications > Accessories > Search for files
[21:27] <cody-somerville> or catfish
[21:28] <Slonkie> i tried it
[21:28] <Slonkie> Chouldn't find it :/
[21:28] <cody-somerville> Any idea what the filename is?
[21:28] <Slonkie> well i searching for the few that came to mind i might have called it
[21:35] <SiDi_SIGABRT> Slonkie,
[21:35] <SiDi_SIGABRT> open inkscape
[21:35] <SiDi_SIGABRT> and save an empty file
[21:35] <SiDi_SIGABRT> and it'll tell you in which path you saved last time :P
[21:37] <Slonkie> well.. it's not the last time i saved
[21:37] <Slonkie> well you helped me back then SiDi_SIGABRT. what dir would you have me put down my file? :P
[21:40] <SiDi_SIGABRT> No idea :P
[21:40] <SiDi_SIGABRT> i'm harrassing a guy who annoyed a friend's friend yesterday
[21:40] <SiDi_SIGABRT> on msn :O
[21:40] <Slonkie> all right
[22:19] <rafkid> evening
[22:22] <rafkid> I have a windows workgroup with five pcs and one xubuntu pc - any god guides to joining the workgroup?
[22:22] <rafkid> good evn
[22:27] <zoredache> you don't really join a workgroup.  All you do is setup folder sharing and set whatever workgroup you like
[22:27] <zoredache> !samba
[22:28] <jmichaelx> i just upgraded to xubuntu jaunty, and have one gripe with the new xfce... so far, i have not been able to get the old functionality when right-clicking on the desktop... i want the applications menu ONLY, NOT the desktop menu, with a selection at the bottom for the apps menu. is there still a way to do this?
[22:31] <rafkid> @zoredache many thanks for this - i shall have a read
[22:33] <rafkid> @zoredache greif - well done - I looked but could not see.......................ty chum
[23:29] <SiDi_unchocked> Does anyone remember the shortcut to add /remove virtual desktops ?
[23:37] <Slonkie> Anyone any new ideas on how to remove an dead icon which you've got not idea where's stored? :)
[23:39] <knome> Slonkie, search for it
[23:39] <Slonkie> i did try searching for it a million times
[23:39] <knome> Slonkie, it is something .desktop
[23:39] <Slonkie> nothing apperas
[23:39] <knome> Slonkie, with what did you search?
[23:39] <knome> Slonkie, and what's the icon?
[23:39] <Slonkie> it's an icon in Applications>Office
[23:40] <Slonkie> which i created manually, now i can't find it, it's called "Maple 11" and i tried searching for it a million times
[23:40] <Slonkie> and lots of other word containing "maple"
[23:42] <knome> uhm, you created an icon manually and don't know where?
[23:42] <Slonkie> i can't remember it
[23:46] <SiDi_unchocked> .local/share/applications
[23:46] <SiDi_unchocked> or /usr/share/applications
[23:46] <SiDi_unchocked> or in .gnome / .kde but unlikely
[23:46] <Slonkie> yes
[23:47] <SiDi_unchocked> or locate .desktop
[23:47] <Slonkie> now i remember.. it's .local
[23:47] <Slonkie> :D Thanks SiDi_unchocked , your the best
[23:47] <SiDi_unchocked> ty
[23:47] <SiDi_unchocked> its because im unchocked
[23:47] <SiDi_unchocked> but i'm also sigabrt'ed :(