[00:46] <Gon> I want to submit a bug in kdm package
[00:46] <Gon> but
[00:46] <Gon> Bug option are disabled in lauchpad :|
[00:46] <Gon> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+package/kdm
[00:49] <tsimpson> you don't file bugs against packages like that, you file it against the source package. kdebase-workspace in this case
[00:50] <tsimpson> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+filebug
[00:50] <Gon> !
[00:51] <tsimpson> or just use "ubuntu-bug kdm" if you want a "quick" way
[00:51] <Gon> When I close the session to change my desktop manager or user, the menu does not appear
[00:51] <Gon> only can show the console
[00:54] <Gon> only restarting the kdm service can show the login menu
[00:59] <Mr_Grieves|> There seems to be an issue with jaunty's cmake:
[00:59] <Mr_Grieves|> Unknown CMake command "macro_optional_find_package"
[00:59] <Mr_Grieves|> I have /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/MacroOptionalFindPackage.cmake, but cmake just doesn't seem to be finding it.
[01:07] <Mr_Grieves|> Ack, the problem is that you can't just checkout kalzium and compile it, I have to build from kdeedu's cmakelists.txt
[01:07] <Mr_Grieves|> (For the archives ;) http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#Installing_a_subset_of_a_module )
[01:11] <JontheEchidna> It usually is fiddly things like that. :-)
[02:34] <JontheEchidna> jeez
[02:34] <JontheEchidna> All these upstream bugs we're tracking are being fixed just now
[02:34] <JontheEchidna> couldn't they have done this a week or two earlier?
[02:34] <JontheEchidna> :P
[02:39] <ScottK> 4.2.3 is just an sru away.
[02:41] <JontheEchidna> True
[03:09] <Gon> O_O!
[03:09] <Gon> my sound D:
[03:09] <Gon> I have no sound in flash since my last update
[03:19] <dtchen> Gon: what's the output from: pgrep pulseaudio
[03:20] <Gon> gon@acer:~$ pgrep pulseaudio
[03:20] <Gon> 6222
[08:13] <Quintasan> hiho
[11:00] <docx> hi, do somebody know where can be problem when I have turned on compositing in kwin and after some random time (maybe not time but some action) freezes graphic and keyboard, but mouse and background applications still running?
[11:00] <docx> I'm using ubuntu jaunty, graphics is intel GM945
[11:01] <docx> i would help you with reporting bug, but i don't know where is some useful information, in Xorg.log i didn't find anything :(
[11:08] <asraniel> if seen that once, but after clicking around etc, sudenly i got my keyboard back. i suspect that a "global" input widget got hold of the keyboard somehow, but by clicking around alot i could escape it (but i had a similar problem with kubuntu 8.04, but more often there)
[12:37] <Lure> Riddell: arround?
[12:41] <Tonio_> ScottK: ping ?
[12:42] <Lure> Tonio_: thanks for taking care for mlt package
[12:42] <Tonio_> Lure: no pb ;)
[12:42] <Tonio_> Lure: on the other side, kdenlive needs rebuilt, and is stuck in the queue :)
[12:42] <Tonio_> Lure: it crashes right now :/
[12:42] <Lure> Tonio_: ups, did not try it today
[12:43] <Tonio_> :)
[12:43] <Tonio_> try !
[12:43] <Lure> symbol lookup error: kdenlive: undefined symbol: _ZN3Mlt8ConsumerC1ERNS_7ProfileEPcS3_
[12:43] <Lure> ;-)
[12:44] <Lure> Tonio_: I think we need to get bug 358576, but I have hard time to get attention of Riddell and release team
[12:44] <Lure> many duplicates and reporters with crashes
[12:44] <Lure> and exiv2 is primarily used by KDE apps (no gnome app in main uses it)
[12:44] <Lure> so I think Kubuntu/Riddell need to push to get approval for this
[12:45] <Tonio_> Lure: true
[12:45] <Tonio_> Lure: does digikam need rebuilt ?
[12:45] <Lure> Tonio_: no, just new exiv2 upload is needed
[12:45] <Lure> it is bug-fix only release of library
[12:46] <Lure> Tonio_: confirmed by several people with my ppa packages
[12:46] <Tonio_> Lure: you already have the source package ?
[12:46] <Lure> Tonio_: yes, in my ppa - it just need release team approval and core-dev to sponsor upload
[12:47] <Tonio_> Lure: have a dget command please ? I'll upload !
[12:47] <Lure> Tonio_: https://edge.launchpad.net/~lure/+archive/ppa/+files/exiv2_0.18.1-0ubuntu1~ppa~lure1.dsc
[12:48] <Tonio_> lure thx
[12:48] <Lure> Tonio_: just need removal of ~ppa~lure1 in version
[12:48] <Tonio_> yup
[12:48] <Lure> Tonio_: and please comment to bug with your core-dev hat ;-)
[12:49] <a|wen> Lure: if you have upstreams changelog from 0.18 to 0.18.1, put that in the bug as well so it is easily accessible fore releas team
[12:49] <Lure> a|wen: done
[12:51] <Tonio_> Lure: uploaded
[12:52] <Tonio_> Lure: have to ping an archive admin now :)
[12:52] <Lure> Tonio_: thanks
[12:52] <Tonio_> yw :)
[14:06] <ScottK> Tonio_: When I went to bed last night mlt++ was not yet done.  I'll accept it today.  No worrites.
[14:06] <Tonio_> oki doki ;)
[14:07] <Tonio_> ScottK: now all is built and I rebooted, kdenlive segfaults, rebuilt is really needed in fact :)
[14:07] <ScottK> Accepted.
[14:07] <ScottK> Handy it was in the queue.
[14:08] <ScottK> The reason it took so long was to get frei0r then mlt then mlt++ published on all archs in sequence.
[14:09] <ScottK> I did get manual buildd intervention to get frei0r and mlt jumped to the front of the queue on the slow archs.
[15:27] <thewall83> Hi all!
[15:28] <thewall83> I knew that you nedded testers for the upgrade of kubuntu jaunty
[15:29] <thewall83> I just want to make you know that all went good for me...only 1 thing: although the 2.6.28 was installed, I had to make "sudo update grub"
[15:30] <thewall83> to have it up and shown on the grub menu...
[15:30] <thewall83> I don't know if this could be fixed in the upgrade process...
[18:05] <cumulus007> Hi, why have you put KPackageKit into Jaunty?
[18:05] <cumulus007> it's the worst package manager I've ever seen
[18:05] <cumulus007> it's slow, it's buggy, it's interface is unusable
[18:05] <cumulus007> it's not completed yet
[18:05] <cumulus007> Adept was fine
[18:06] <ScottK> Adept is still in the repositories.  You can install it and use it if you prefer.
[18:07] <cumulus007> I know, but that's not the problem
[18:07] <cumulus007> are there any good reasons to replace Adept with KPackageKit?
[18:11] <ScottK> Both were regarded as incomplete and Adept is unmaintained where as there are people working on KPackagekit.
[18:11]  * ScottK didn't make the decision.
[18:12] <ScottK> The thought was that KPackagekit is the future, so best get started.
[18:13] <cumulus007> hm
[18:14] <cumulus007> I still think that KPackageKit is not mature enough
[18:16] <claydoh> I find it less annoying than adept3 tbh, and I get few if any complaints on it in kubuntuforums
[18:16] <claydoh> esp mcompared to Adept3
[18:16]  * ScottK doesn't think either of them are.
[18:16] <valgaav> both suck :P
[18:16] <valgaav> Adept sucks more though
[18:17] <valgaav> IMHO
[18:18] <valgaav> I'm using synaptic and there is nothing Qt based to replace it for me .... Shaman looks promising but 1.0 works just in Archlinux and 2.0 is still in development
[18:20] <claydoh> but i prefer either over synaptic for Kubuntu as I prefer to keep  things kde/qt
[18:20] <smarter> in my experience, I've had relatively few problems with Adept but haven't been able to complete a _single_ update with KPackageKit
[18:20]  * ScottK prefers apt-get.
[18:21] <smarter> which is why(+ the apparent problem with Intel video cards) I won't upgrade people I know computer to Jaunty
[18:21] <ScottK> Neither KPackageKit nor Adept 3 will complain about unsigned packages.  I consider the lack of enforcing cryptrographic security a fatal flaw in both.
[18:21] <smarter> I think we should look into Shaman for Karmic
[18:22] <smarter> apparently it'll have packagekit support in the future and seems to be relatively appreciated by its users
[18:26] <ScottK> The other consderation is that finishing Adept 3 is on the Debian GSoC shortlist, so it may be a consideration.
[18:32] <a|wen> just getting something that both handles debconf questions and makes you aware of unsigned packages...
[18:39] <ScottK> Yep
[18:39] <ScottK> The debconf thing is another point of breakage for KPackageKit that Adept handles.
[22:06]  * Quintasan votes for Shaman in Karmic (if it's ready)
[22:08]  * ScottK waits for Tonio_ to jump in and say something about Pardus.
[22:23]  * smarter will probably investigate a bit Shaman when he'll get time
[22:23] <Tonio_> ScottK: yoyoyo !!
[22:24] <lubyou> any idea why the wireless, mobile broadband and dsl tabs in the networkmanager plasmoid are greyed out (aka not selectable)?
[22:24] <Tonio_> lubyou: I reported upstream, no response so far :/
[22:25] <ScottK> Tonio_: Did you see the post about Pardus/Turkey on planet.kde today?
[22:25] <smarter> ooh, shaman got a krunner plugin and a plasmoid
[22:25] <Tonio_> ScottK: not today, why ? something interesting ?
[22:25] <ScottK> I think you'd enjoy it.
[22:26] <lubyou> Tonio_ got a link to the bug report?
[22:26] <Tonio_> lubyou: there is no official one, I posted to the appropriate mailing list.... lemme find the link
[22:27] <lubyou> thanks
[22:27] <Tonio_> ScottK: probably yes :) it's to me by far the most innovative kde based distro, as you know :)
[22:28] <Tonio_> lubyou: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-networkmanager/2009-February/000412.html
[22:28] <lubyou> thanks you Tonio_
[22:28] <lubyou> -s
[22:28] <Tonio_> lubyou: more generally : http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-networkmanager/2009-February/thread.html
[22:28] <Tonio_> lubyou: 3 reports, no response :/
[22:29] <Tonio_> lubyou: honnestly, when I see gnome, I'm *really* frustrated to see that we *never* had a consistant network configuration tool for the last 4 years....
[22:29] <Tonio_> lubyou: I think I'll go to the UDS with pardus stuff packaged and try to collaborate with them on the future...
[22:30] <Tonio_> lubyou: they have a really nice network config tool plus many other things...
[22:30] <Tonio_> lubyou: they use python which we love too, so....
[22:30] <lubyou> yay python ftw
[22:30] <Tonio_> ScottK: and yes, I'm reading planet.kde now !
[22:31] <Tonio_> ScottK: probably if I hadn't find out kubuntu before pardus I'd be a pardus contributor right now :) hehe
[22:32] <ScottK> maybe soon ....
[22:33] <Tonio_> ScottK: no, probably never, cause I love my community so much
[22:33] <Tonio_> ScottK: but as I can see I'm not the only one pardus impresses :)
[22:34] <ScottK> Yep