[00:00] <theuser1> need a way
[00:00] <theuser1> i use amarok
[00:00] <d3jake> hmm... xfd xditview, xclock, x11perf, x-window-system-core, smproxy, ssesreg, python2.4-tk, python2.4-imaging, python-simpletal, python-egnix-mxproxy, oclock
[00:00] <d3jake> Many others
[00:00] <d3jake> being removed
[00:00] <RizR> had enough of amarok 2. anyway to install amarok 1 on kde4.2?
[00:01] <xorred> yes, amarok2 sucks
[00:01] <Daskreech> RizR: Yes look at apt-.pearsoncomputing.net
[00:02] <Daskreech> apt.pearsoncomputing.net
[00:02] <antoranz> guys, is it possible to use portable ubuntu but with kubuntu instead?+
[00:02] <RizR> Daskreech, :-) their account bandwidth limit has been exceeded. may be will be up in may ;)
[00:03] <Ciros> okay I am annoyed at air.
[00:03] <Daskreech> RizR: ha ok :)
[00:03] <d3jake> I tried to install a package named rdiff-backup, but I get this result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/153110/
[00:04] <Ciros> imma annoyed, I dunno what this means... (airinstall:6471): Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libqtcurve.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[00:04] <d3jake> Replace your elves...
[00:04] <RizR> another one. (may be a dumb question but hey). how do I switch off monitor (just monitor not machine) after a certain time. cant see settings under screensaver
[00:04] <Ciros> er wha?  >.>
[00:04] <p-f> RizR: it's in 'Display'
[00:04] <p-f> RizR: (assuming you're on KDE)
[00:05] <p-f> (power control)
[00:05] <p-f> because having a standalone Power control would make too much sense
[00:05]  * p-f twitches
[00:06] <RizR> p-f, err it's got three options. standby, suspend, and power off.
[00:06] <RizR> none says switch off monitor :$
[00:06] <p-f> RizR: it's power off
[00:06] <p-f> RizR: these are only for the monitor, not your computer
[00:06] <p-f> RizR: completely unintuitive, I know :)
[00:07] <p-f> plus, the "What's this?" don't give any info
[00:07] <p-f> it's great
[00:07] <RizR> p-f, ah well. that's classic kde. got three options for when you only need one saying turn off monitor :-)
[00:08] <RizR> ok another one.
[00:09] <RizR> selecting random screensaver usually makes screensavers switch after few mins in gnome. in kde it starts a screensaver randomly whenever inactive but never switches it to something else.
[00:09] <RizR> makes sense?
[00:10] <p-f> RizR: makes perfect sense
[00:11] <d3jake> Is there a way to, within Kubuntu, throttle the bandwidth that Adept is allowed to use?
[00:11] <RizR> p-f, any way to do the switching?
[00:12] <p-f> RizR: I don't think so, maybe you could look into commandline options for xscreensaver / xlock
[00:13] <kanonmat_> dpms can be used to turn monitor off
[00:15] <kanonmat_> xorg.conf SERVERFLAGS SECTION: Option "OffTime" "minutes"
[00:15] <kanonmat_> or use xset
[00:16] <cllaudyu> i have a little problem... when i try ti install or upgrade it's suddenly intrerupting and in terminal when i type dpkg --configure -a it's doing the same thing...
[00:22] <ign0ramus> hey all.
[00:23] <ign0ramus> was in here earlier today, but never got an answer... Does anyone else have issues with inline/embedded images in gmail being fuzzy or difficult to read?  On my Windows machine, this is not an issue.
[00:24] <ign0ramus> on ubuntuforums, I saw another thread with the same issue, but no solution.  someone mentioned that the page may have been zoomed, causing aliasing, but this is not the case :(
[00:26] <ign0ramus> Actually, this goes for all my web-based email accounts - yahoo, hotmail, and gmail... no one else has ever seen this?
[00:26] <Daskreech> Firefox?
[00:27] <ign0ramus> Daskreech:
[00:27] <ign0ramus> yes
[00:27] <ign0ramus> let me check Opera
[00:28] <Daskreech> How bad is the fuzzy?
[00:29] <markjohnson> hey
[00:30] <markjohnson> can anyone tell me how to compile an apache mod in ubuntu
[00:30] <ign0ramus> Daskreech: it makes barcodes unreadable... :/
[00:30] <markjohnson> like.. what compiler do i use
[00:30] <Daskreech> markjohnson: Which module ?
[00:30] <markjohnson> i cant get apxs to work
[00:30] <markjohnson> like, anything
[00:30] <markjohnson> im writing my own
[00:30] <Daskreech> !compile
[00:31] <markjohnson> does this apply to compiling for apache too?
[00:31] <markjohnson> or just generically?
[00:31] <Daskreech> ign0ramus: I'm not seeing it look very fuzzy here
[00:31] <Daskreech> markjohnson: Code is more or less code
[00:32] <markjohnson> yea.. but doesnt apxs use spcific functions to compile it with apache the correct way?
[00:32] <ign0ramus> Daskreech: opera looks fuzzy, too.  maybe a *little* more readable, but if I view the same email in Windows, it's crystal clear
[00:32] <Daskreech> ign0ramus: Sounds like your video driver
[00:32] <ign0ramus> Daskreech: even if it's *just* for inline images in email?
[00:32] <Daskreech> markjohnson: long as it has a build script it'll be fine
[00:33] <markjohnson> hmm
[00:33] <markjohnson> alright, ill give it a shot then
[00:33] <markjohnson> thanks
[00:33] <Daskreech> ign0ramus: to be clear you download the file and it's really clear?
[00:33] <ign0ramus> Daskreech: exactly. yes.
[00:34] <Daskreech> ign0ramus: Kinda funky
[00:34] <Daskreech> what version of FF ?
[00:34] <ign0ramus> Daskreech: 3.0.8
[00:36] <Daskreech> Hmm not sure what would make the html renderer be strange
[00:37] <ign0ramus> Daskreech: for example, here's an old (expired) coupon from old navy i got: http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6871/59174353.png
[00:38] <Daskreech> That's it downloaded?
[00:38] <ign0ramus> Daskreech: that's a screenshot from gmail.  but if i right-click and save the image, it is clear - like so: http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/3728/19162240.gif
[00:38] <Daskreech> wow
[00:38] <ign0ramus> Daskreech: big difference, right?
[00:38] <Daskreech> Yeah
[00:39] <ign0ramus> Daskreech: and its not just me ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823027
[00:39] <Daskreech> ign0ramus: Hooray!!!
[00:39] <ign0ramus> Daskreech: yeah, but no solution, so... boooooo!
[00:39] <Daskreech> Hi I'm ign0ramus and I'm a blurry HTML renderer user
[00:40] <ign0ramus> Daskreech: care to explain...?
[00:40] <Daskreech> ign0ramus: Support group
[00:40] <Daskreech> :-)
[00:40] <ign0ramus> Daskreech: yeah, i get that, but do you know how to solve?
[00:40] <ign0ramus> sheesh. ;)
[00:41] <Daskreech> I wouldn't be dragging this out if I did. I don't know what would make it do that Unless Gmail is trying to save bandwidth costs or something
[00:42] <Daskreech> It might actually be the video card driver ....
[00:42] <theuser1> how to run a 1.mp3 every time at boot up, in amarok? command or method?
[00:42] <Daskreech> but somehow I doubt it
[00:42] <ign0ramus> Daskreech: onboard Intel that works fine for everything else
[00:42] <Daskreech> theuser1: at bootup?
[00:42] <Daskreech> not at login?
[00:42] <theuser1> Daskreech:  dont know. whenever kde starts
[00:43] <Daskreech> ign0ramus: Yeah it's a shot in the dark. If there is a bug about it on launchpad vote for it and follow it if not make one
[00:43] <Daskreech> theuser1: login then
[00:43] <theuser1> Daskreech:  ok.
[00:43] <Daskreech> Look in System Settings
[00:43] <theuser1> Daskreech:  i did a kcron fffor 'a startup' at 'boot up' but it didnt worked
[00:44] <theuser1> Daskreech:  amarokapp '/home/theuser1/Desktop/ayatul kursi.mp3'
[00:44] <theuser1> not worked
[00:46] <ign0ramus> theuser1: can't you just add it into System Notifications to run when KDE starts?
[00:46] <theuser1> ign0ramus:  how
[00:46] <theuser1> i want it to run auto maticaly
[00:47] <ign0ramus> theuser1: im still using kde3.5, but in Kcontrol, just go to sound & multi > system notifications
[00:47] <theuser1> ign0ramus:  i want it to loop for ever
[00:47] <ign0ramus> theuser1: really?
[00:48] <ign0ramus> theuser1: i'm sure there's a quick and dirty bash script you could run... do you want an external media player to play this file?
[00:49] <theuser1> ign0ramus: i wont mind. i just need it to be played. amarok maybe
[00:49] <ign0ramus> theuser1: lemme see... brb
[00:49] <theuser1> ok
[00:49] <Daskreech> !autostart | theuser1
[00:51] <theuser1> Daskreech:  thx
[00:54] <ign0ramus> Daskreech: mplayer has a loop flag... could you whip up a quick script to run mplayer on startup and loop this mp3?
[00:54] <Daskreech> Could I? No I'm about to step out. Can it be done? Yes.. yes it can
[00:55] <ign0ramus> Daskreech: Understood.  I don't feel like going through the man pages for this... a looping song over an entire session?
[00:55] <Daskreech> it's not that hard just start a mplayer session with a loopflag and background it
[00:56] <ign0ramus> Daskreech: yeah, i'm checking the option flags now.. :/
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[00:57] <ign0ramus> yo yo ma
[01:02] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Is there any way to stop most windows from defauting to open fullscreen?
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo-Aztec: i thiink theres a setting in systemsettings about that sort of thing
[01:10] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ActionParsnip: Any idea where? I cant find anything about fullscreen in there
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> !bug
[01:15] <nitr0ix> is there a kde alterantive for emerald?
[01:15] <hallowname> nitr0ix: kwin :) emerald runs with kde fine too.
[01:16] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Is there any way to fix it?
[01:16] <nitr0ix> does it? heard that emerald not compatible with kwin
[01:16] <nitr0ix> evil internet confuses me >_>
[01:18] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Any options in Compiz might be doing it??
[01:19] <Ciros> is there any way to find out what caused this: Application crashed with an unhandled SIGSEGV
[01:20] <hallowname> nitr0ix: emerald and kwin do the same things. decorate the window borders. if ur not using compiz, ud be better just using kwin themes. but for compiz emerald is best. either way. u can make ur own themes for either. :)
[01:20] <hallowname> Ciros: learn c++ probably. strace might help. installing -dbg packages and sending a backtrace to the programmer might help too.
[01:21] <Ciros> haha.    I hate air -.-
[01:22] <hallowname> Ciros: air? the kde4 theme? which theme do you use?
[01:22] <nitr0ix> anyway to make Firefox look more preatty in kde4?
[01:22] <Ciros> no, adobe air.  am trying to install something via air and that is the error I am getting
[01:22] <hallowname> nitr0ix: on jaunty i think it looks perfect. no more oxygen glitches. you can always install firefox themes. add-ons.mozilla.com
[01:23] <hallowname> Ciros: ooo, that's adobe's fault then. why do you need air? boycott closed source nonsense! ;p
[01:23] <Ciros> because I want to run tweetdeck.   I likes it, atleast I got my elf issue fixed on it.
[01:24] <esp17> anyone here experts on how to access files and folders on a mac (iBook) hard drive via ubuntu live CD? my g.friends ibook wont start up normally, so running on live CD, but are not able to get permission to here personal files on the mounted partition from the mac hard drive... help please!
[01:24] <nitr0ix> Mac sux throw it away = problem fixed xd
[01:25] <esp17> haha after getting the files!
[01:25] <OliverKrueger> Does anybody know, how I can get my Katapult back in Jaunty?
[01:25] <hallowname> esp17: changing perms on a macbook like that can brick the mac. but you can always 'sudo chown myusername:myusername /path/to/dir -R' on it. beware.
[01:26] <esp17> hallowname: im not an expert in this terminal stuff, but i tried some chmod seemingly without result... are not able to get more than "read only file system"
[01:26] <nitr0ix> hmm any details on 9.10 ubuntu? xD
[01:27] <bazhang> !koala > nitr0ix
[01:27] <nitr0ix> aw i am allready lovin 9.10 >_>
[01:30] <Dragnslcr> 9.10?
[01:30] <esp17> folders are displayed with a little red cross at the corner, and by doble clicking to open, i get the message "content can not be displayed, you dont have permission necessary..."
[01:30] <nitr0ix> Karmic Koala
[01:31] <Dragnslcr> Oh
[01:31] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I started ignoring the names and just using the numbers a couple years ago
[01:31] <nitr0ix> he he
[01:32] <Dragnslcr> OliverKrueger- I think katapult has been retired for the standard run dialog (alt-F2 by default)
[01:33] <nitr0ix> so kde uses QT and gnome uses GTK?
[01:33] <hallowname|FFF> nitr0ix: yup
[01:33] <nitr0ix> hmmm anyway to get Firefox to use QT instead of GTK?
[01:34] <Dragnslcr> I vaguely recall someone working on it, but I don't know anything about it
[01:35] <karthik> can any1 tell what difference will it(Firefox with QT) make?
[01:35] <nitr0ix> ah thanks anyways...sad tho... shiny kde4.2 with ugly firefox....
[01:36] <Daskreech> It would fit better and probably work nicer on all platforms
[01:37] <hallowname|FFF> nitr0ix: ugly firefox in 4.2? jaunty or intrepid? jaunty's firefox is very pretty. firefox in too tied in with gtk and its own custom subclasses of gtk classes. =/
[01:37] <hallowname|FFF> Daskreech: yea it would. let's go riot at the mozilla office :D
[01:37] <karthik> ok
[01:37] <karthik> :)
[01:37] <Daskreech> far as I recall they have  Qt Firefox project
[01:38] <hallowname|FFF> Daskreech: yea there is one, but it will take forever. bc firefox was directly subclassed from gtk instead of implementing gtk like most gtk apps do. firefox will b gtk only for a long time i think.
[01:39] <Daskreech> Yeah
[01:39] <Daskreech> same reason that Chrome is Gtk
[01:39] <nitr0ix> did chrome got ported to linux?
[01:39] <hallowname|FFF> nitr0ix: yup
[01:40] <hallowname|FFF> nitr0ix: halfass ;p
[01:40] <nitr0ix> hmm any good?
[01:41] <hallowname|FFF> nitr0ix: dunno, i only use qt apps. kde programmer. gtk isnt maintained. like at all. lol.
[01:41] <nitr0ix> he he fair enough...hate gtk now...
[01:41] <Dragnslcr> If you search Google for "firefox qt" you'll get a couple hits for people in this channel that have worked on it
[01:41] <Dragnslcr> There's even a firefox-qt package in PPA
[01:42] <nitr0ix> Nokia helps port Firefox to Qt xD
[01:42] <karthik> OK. why is Opera not favoured?
[01:42] <nitr0ix> dont like opera ether...
[01:42] <nitr0ix> something wrong with it....it just does not feel right xD
[01:42] <hallowname|FFF> yea, noble project. takes too long tho. firefox does need a rewrite tho i think.
[01:42] <Daskreech> hallowname|FFF: Real port? not just a wine wrapper?
[01:42]  * devilsadvocate wants firefox-qt
[01:42] <hallowname|FFF> opera is closed source. thats whats wrong with it.
[01:42] <devilsadvocate> where where
[01:43] <hallowname|FFF> Daskreech: yup, gtkish
[01:43] <Daskreech> Hmm that's interesitng
[01:43] <Daskreech>  Chrome is really really Windows specific
[01:43] <hallowname|FFF> Daskreech: i seen a deb of it somewhere... the build-log looked horrible tho.
[01:43] <Daskreech> So is Firefox but Chrome it bleeds into the code
[01:44] <hallowname|FFF> Daskreech: dunno, dont use either ;p konqueror elinks and arora for me. if all else fails: kget. ;D
[01:44] <Daskreech> w3m
[01:44] <devilsadvocate> Dragnslcr, where is the ppa with firefox-qt
[01:45] <hallowname|FFF> Daskreech: i liked that one. but only if i had a mouse and no keyboard. the key interaction with w3m is funny i think...
[01:45] <Dragnslcr> devilsadvocate- looks like it's http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu
[01:45] <nitr0ix> w3m is way tooo hard-core for me
[01:45] <rmrfslash> I'm getting lots of updates recently :)
[01:45] <Daskreech> rmrfslash: Jaunty?
[01:45] <hallowname|FFF> nitr0ix: elinks :) simple and easy. so is w3m but u gotta read the manuals.
[01:45] <Daskreech> w3m is pretty neat
[01:45] <rmrfslash> jaunty
[01:46] <Daskreech> I just need to figure out how to pipe aa through it
[01:46] <Daskreech> rmrfslash: Expect that
[01:46] <Daskreech> you will pull down tens of gigs of data in the early part of kubuntu+1
[01:46] <nitr0ix> ill stick with konqueror.... dont like text based ones >_>
[01:46] <hallowname|FFF> Daskreech: haha aa? havent used that since i was 13 maybe :D good times
[01:46] <Daskreech> it slows down a lot once it releases
[01:46] <rmrfslash> DaSkreech: wasn't there lynx for a long time? curl? wget? How's w3m different
[01:47] <Daskreech> hallowname|FFF: It's great. I can watch DVDs on the command line with it
[01:47] <Daskreech> links lynx and w3m
[01:47] <nitr0ix> command line dvd...whoah you mean like numbers and text replaces image?
[01:47] <nitr0ix> (o_O)
[01:47] <rmrfslash> matrix style sh*t
[01:48] <nitr0ix> lol
[01:48] <hallowname|FFF> Daskreech: yup :D i used to have an interactive cli computer with it. using screen and custom tweaking. lol. good times
[01:48] <hallowname|FFF> aafire! woot!
[01:48] <Daskreech> rmrfslash: Funny enough last DVD I watched lke that was Matrix
[01:48] <Daskreech> trippy :)
[01:48] <Daskreech> !info bb
[01:49] <Daskreech> !info aafire
[01:49] <Daskreech> :-P
[01:49] <rmrfslash> !matrix
[01:49] <hallowname|FFF> now kde is more graphically customizable than cli.
[01:49] <rmrfslash> dang
[01:49] <nitr0ix> matrix owns you
[01:49] <rmrfslash> !pwn
[01:49] <tsimpson> !botabuse > rmrfslash
[01:49] <rmrfslash> what do you know ubottu?
[01:49] <nitr0ix> !own?
[01:50] <hallowname|FFF> anyone here tried openbrain?
[01:50] <nitr0ix> !iNoob
[01:50] <tsimpson> nitr0ix: please do not abuse the bot
[01:50] <rmrfslash> what's ipenbrain?
[01:50] <nitr0ix> lol this is fun ....
[01:50] <devilsadvocate> Dragnslcr, is the package there only for jaunty? i have the ppa enabled but i dont see firefox-qt
[01:50] <hallowname|FFF> rmrfslash: a desktop assistant plasmoid. talks english to u.
[01:51] <rmrfslash> cool
[01:51] <Dragnslcr> devilsadvocate- it might not be there anymore. I just looked through it and it doesn't seem to be there
[01:51] <rmrfslash> i guess
[01:51] <Dragnslcr> devilsadvocate- I was just going by a post from August, so it have gotten pulled since then
[01:52] <hallowname|FFF> rmrfslash: its on kde-apps.org if u wanna try. there are debs somewhere. it can 'google urmoms' and answer 'what time is it' 'what month is it'. 'wiki urmomz' 'run firefox' etc etc
[02:00] <rmrfslash> I don't really wanna have my computer talk to me.
[02:01] <rmrfslash> So I can say run firefox and it'll run?
[02:02] <nitr0ix> sooo can anybody explain me what is kwin? cause i thought it was used when you enable desktop effect in kde..
[02:03] <bazhang> !info kwin
[02:03] <Daskreech> nitr0ix: It's your window manager by default in KDE
[02:03] <rmrfslash> I think kwin is the new kwm right?
[02:03] <Daskreech> It's not new
[02:03] <rmrfslash> well... it used to be called kwm
[02:03] <nitr0ix> yeah but i just did sudo apt-get install kwin and it did install it like it wasnt in there
[02:03] <tsimpson> rmrfslash: when? not in KDE3
[02:03] <rmrfslash> and in many cases, some of the errors still report it as kwm
[02:04] <tsimpson> nitr0ix: kwin is a transitional package for kde-window-manager
[02:04] <nitr0ix> ok
[02:04] <rmrfslash> no, not in kde3
[02:04] <rmrfslash> I think kwm stopped after KDE 1
[02:05] <rmrfslash> but there's some legacy code in there which still refers to it as kwm
[02:05] <tsimpson> yeah, some constants and X11 interfaces
[02:05] <nitr0ix> so i still can't use emerald with kwin cause if i do apt-get it will install compiz with it..
[02:06] <rmrfslash> emerald is a compiz theme isn't it?
[02:06] <tsimpson> emerald is a compiz window decorator
[02:06] <rmrfslash> so you need compiz
[02:06] <nitr0ix> any alternative for kde/
[02:06] <nitr0ix> ?
[02:06] <tsimpson> install a KDE theme
[02:06] <rmrfslash> kde has it's own compositing
[02:06] <nitr0ix> i mean for emerald.
[02:06] <rmrfslash> no clue
[02:06] <nitr0ix> aw
[02:07] <tsimpson> emerald just themes compizz
[02:07] <rmrfslash> I just know KDE compositing is more integrated w/ KDE
[02:07] <tsimpson> kde has it's own theme system
[02:07] <Daskreech> !info emerald
[02:07] <hallowname|FFF> rmrfslash: yup. it does way more than that tho.
[02:07] <nitr0ix> hmmm DeKorator seems something like emerald.
[02:08] <tsimpson> !info kwin-style-dekorator
[02:08] <rmrfslash> Some of the effects aren't as good as in compiz though
[02:08] <rmrfslash> some don't work at all (at least for me)
[02:09] <rmrfslash> and some just downright crash my machine
[02:09] <rmrfslash> like the "snow" effect
[02:09] <rmrfslash> I tried launching that one and my machine just crashed
[02:10] <nitr0ix> aw found it.... Translucency seems to do the trick...
[02:10] <rmrfslash> my wobbly windows effect looks all weird too
[02:10] <rmrfslash> I'm using XRender... not sure if that's why
[02:11] <rmrfslash> nitri0ix: what, did you want translucent konsole?
[02:11] <nitr0ix> nah transparent window decorations..
[02:11] <rmrfslash> oh
[02:11] <nitr0ix> thats why i wanted emerald ;)
[02:11] <rmrfslash> translucent window borders?
[02:12] <nitr0ix> translucent this word freaks me out
[02:12] <nitr0ix> transparent...yeah..
[02:13] <rmrfslash> hey, why don't I have translucent window borders :(
[02:13] <nitr0ix> you are the lucky one xD
[02:14] <rmrfslash> bummer
[02:14] <nitr0ix> what kde version you have?
[02:14] <rmrfslash> jaunty
[02:14] <rmrfslash> 4.2.2
[02:14] <nitr0ix> same here...works perfectly
[02:15] <rmrfslash> I'm using XRender compositing
[02:15] <rmrfslash> probably limited capabilities
[02:15] <rmrfslash> oh, and the open source ATI driver
[02:15] <nitr0ix> why not use OpenGL?
[02:15] <nitr0ix> ah
[02:15] <nitr0ix> nvidia rox >_>
[02:16] <rmrfslash> for now ;)
[02:16] <nitr0ix> for always ;)
[02:18] <rmrfslash> http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonhd
[02:18] <nitr0ix> damnit....i've been planing to start playing eve for past couple months...but i didnt know they ended up linux support....
[02:19] <nitr0ix> tho you still can get deb package on their page if you use mighty google...
[02:22] <lorecaster> got a question :D why can i listen to any kind of audio file, MP3 etc, but i cannot get audio on ANY video file, AVI, MP4, etc
[02:22] <lorecaster> i even installed the restricted extras
[02:23] <nitr0ix> go to kmix
[02:23] <nitr0ix> turn your pcm all the way up
[02:23] <nitr0ix> or do it via alsamixer
[02:23] <nitr0ix> that helped me xD
[02:27] <lorecaster> nitr0ix, will try that
[02:27] <lorecaster> another question, in the mean time, how do i turn my numberpad on?! numlock doesn't let me use the buttons
[02:28] <nitr0ix> had a problem with numlock once...turning it on actually meant turning num off....i think it was debian >_>
[02:28] <lorecaster> neither on nor off work
[02:29] <lorecaster> kmix didn't work :(
[02:30] <nitr0ix> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=num+lock+does+not+work+ubuntu&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=
[02:30] <nitr0ix> xD
[02:32] <nitr0ix> hmmm trying doing it with alsamixer just turn every thing up to 100 see if it works
[02:32] <nitr0ix> try*
[02:33] <lorecaster> working on it now :D thanks
[02:35] <lorecaster> System > Preferences > Keyboard
[02:35] <lorecaster> Under the "Mouse Keys" tab uncheck "Allow to control the pointer using the keyboard"
[02:35] <lorecaster> :D
[02:35] <lorecaster> now, onto sound
[02:35] <nitr0ix> did it work? xD
[02:37] <lorecaster> even the colours are all crazy... skin is blue and so forth
[02:38] <Daskreech> installed libxine1-ffmpeg ?
[02:38] <nitr0ix> lol what did you smoke? i want some xD
[02:39] <lorecaster> dask, checking now
[02:39] <lorecaster> it's not in add/remove, how would i install that?
[02:41] <nitr0ix> sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[02:41] <Daskreech> lorecaster do you have multiverse enabled?
[02:41] <lorecaster> how would i check that? :$ sorry, very green
[02:42] <lorecaster> been an M$ tech for YEARS, but this linux system is amazingly different
[02:43] <nitr0ix> he he
[02:44] <lorecaster> it's wicked-awesome, dispite some minor user-related shortcomings...
[02:44] <p_quarles> lorecaster: look in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:45] <lorecaster> i see nothing of that nature... don't see "multiverse" anywhere in the software sources area
[02:45] <peterhil> lorecaster: by uncommenting /etc/apt/sources.list or graphically in adept by Sources > Edit Software Sources
[02:46] <lorecaster> do you mean the restricted extras?
[02:46] <lorecaster> i have that, and the Gstreamer plugins installed
[02:46] <lorecaster> software restrcited by copyright or legal issues (multiverse) is checked
[02:47] <p_quarles> lorecaster: it's as simple as adding the word "multiverse" to the lines that end with "main restricted"
[02:47] <nitr0ix> so how long did the piratebay owners get?
[02:49] <peterhil> nitr0ix: one year and over $3 million US in fines
[02:49] <peterhil> See: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/pirate-bay-4-guilty
[02:49] <nitr0ix> hah
[02:49] <nitr0ix> sad tho
[02:49] <peterhil> Yes, in a way
[02:49] <lorecaster> so how do you want me to go about this? to edit the sources.list file?
[02:49] <Daskreech> !multiverse
[02:50] <lorecaster> thanks so much
[02:50] <lorecaster> i'm using Ubunto 8.1 though
[02:50] <lorecaster> all the same beast, yeah?
[02:51] <nitr0ix> yeah its all the same
[02:52] <lorecaster> what happened with pirate bay?
[02:53] <lorecaster> in-a-nutshell?
[02:53] <nitr0ix> nothing yet
[02:53] <nitr0ix> well
[02:53] <nitr0ix> the owner got in prison but thats it xD
[02:54] <nitr0ix> owners*
[02:54] <lorecaster> the links above are only for KDE... (go figure) i'm running gnome
[02:54] <nitr0ix> ubuntu - gnome kubuntu - kde xubuntu - xfce
[02:55] <nitr0ix> same structure but different desktop envoirment
[02:55] <lorecaster> different enough to throw me sometimes
[02:55] <lorecaster> i've also got a wicked headcold, and am on some happy pills... bear with me :P
[02:55] <nitr0ix> ha ha
[02:56] <lorecaster> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources my settings are identical to this
[02:56] <nitr0ix> its like Windows with explorer...and windows with aston shell
[02:56] <nitr0ix> just different gui
[02:57] <nitr0ix> he hey i got an idea...lets sue google for piracy..
[02:57] <lorecaster> they have more money than god... no one'll sue them.
[02:57] <lorecaster> they could hire EVERY lawyer licensed to practice law in america, and win by default
[02:58] <nitr0ix> does not matter..if they win...people will burn theyr office
[02:58] <lorecaster> :P
[02:58] <nitr0ix> google hunt xD
[02:59] <nitr0ix> also possible to sue youtube...
[02:59] <nitr0ix> but its same thing..
[02:59] <lorecaster> terrifying
[02:59] <lorecaster> -ahem- i still have no video :P
[02:59] <nitr0ix> erm did you use totem?
[03:00] <nitr0ix> i think it asks you if you want to install codecs for video when you try to play something for first time
[03:00] <lorecaster> i've used dragon, media player, vlc, rhythmbox, name it.
[03:00] <lorecaster> is totem anotherplayer?
[03:00] <nitr0ix> ermmm it video layer in gnome
[03:00] <lorecaster> i've even downloaded divX 6.1.1 for linux... nothing is helping
[03:00] <nitr0ix> player*
[03:01] <lorecaster> this has become the worst week of my life, i just want to watch a movie!! waahhh!!
[03:01] <nitr0ix> same happend to me first time...
[03:01] <lorecaster> totem xine backend? got it
[03:01] <nitr0ix> its like having sex for first time..just dont know what to do
[03:01] <lorecaster> speak for yourself ;) but that's a little off topic
[03:02] <nitr0ix> ha ha too much 18+ movies? xD
[03:02] <lorecaster> i leave that to perverted imaginations :P
[03:02] <lorecaster> back to my aide :P
[03:03] <nitr0ix> sudo apt-get install totem-xine libxine1-ffmpeg libdvdread3
[03:03] <nitr0ix> erm exclude libdvd
[03:04] <lorecaster> what?
[03:05] <nitr0ix> try this ;) sudo apt-get install totem-xine libxine1-ffmpeg
[03:06] <lorecaster> Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986) is screaming name... teasing me :(
[03:06] <lorecaster> it was already installed
[03:07] <lorecaster> i just don't get how i can play audio files, but no video files
[03:08] <nitr0ix> erm what video format you trying to play? ;0
[03:08] <lorecaster> avi
[03:08] <nitr0ix> thats wierd
[03:08] <lorecaster> i know
[03:08] <lorecaster> -none- of my avi's will play
[03:09] <jason_froebe> !medibuntu |lorecaster
[03:09] <jason_froebe> lorecaster - did you get the win32codecs and such installed from medibuntu?
[03:10] <lorecaster> looking at it now... never saw this site before. what do i need to install?
[03:10] <lorecaster> -tear- do i need to go through all this when i install 9.04 next week?
[03:11] <jason_froebe> follow the instructions for 8.10  - you might for 9.04
[03:13] <lorecaster> went here... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[03:13] <lorecaster> ran sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/intrepid.list
[03:13] <lorecaster> also running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[03:13] <jason_froebe> you're almost done :)
[03:13] <lorecaster> got an error...
[03:13] <lorecaster> E: Couldn't find package medibuntu-keyring
[03:14] <jason_froebe> do sudo apt-get update
[03:14] <jason_froebe> look for the word "medibuntu"
[03:15] <lorecaster> also ran sudo apt-get install w64codecs
[03:15] <lorecaster> E: Couldn't find package w64codecs
[03:15] <jason_froebe> then run sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring
[03:15] <lorecaster> E: Couldn't find package medibuntu-keyring
[03:15] <lorecaster> -cries-
[03:16] <jason_froebe> when you run sudo apt-get update, do you see "medibuntu" somewhere in the output?
[03:16] <jason_froebe> oh wait
[03:16] <nitr0ix> Don't worry - we're from the internets. It's going to be alright. :-)
[03:17] <jason_froebe> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/intrepid.list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[03:17] <jason_froebe> I think you were missing the output document part
[03:17] <lorecaster> this place is a god-send, and you're saints :P when i become as uber-leet as you guys, i'll stay here and help noobs too :D
[03:17] <jason_froebe> bah, we're all noobs at something or another
[03:17] <lorecaster> (heart) kk, did the last one
[03:18] <lorecaster> 2009-04-17 23:47:37 (15.1 MB/s) - `/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list' saved [230/230]
[03:18] <lorecaster> (tries to imagine a windows helpdesk being this 'helpful') -giggles inwardly-
[03:18] <jason_froebe> try the sudo apt-get lines now :)
[03:19] <lorecaster> keyring installed okay
[03:20] <nitr0ix> thats a proggress >_>
[03:20] <jason_froebe> you should be able to install the dvd codec and the win64codec now
[03:20] <lorecaster> sudo apt-get install w64codecs installed that one
[03:21] <lorecaster> do i do this now? http://wiki.videolan.org/Git
[03:22] <jason_froebe> you can just run "sudo aptitude install vlc"
[03:22] <lorecaster> i'll install whatever you tell me too :D i just want to distract myself beyond troubleshooting sometime tonight
[03:23] <lorecaster> installed that one too
[03:23] <jason_froebe> try it out - pop in a dvd and run vlc
[03:24] <lorecaster> phantom of the opera, 2006, with Emmy Russom :D
[03:24] <lorecaster> testing now
[03:24] <jason_froebe> never saw it -  Emmy Russom was in the Day After Tomorrow I think
[03:24] <lorecaster> yepyep
[03:24] <lorecaster> ARRGG!!!
[03:24] <lorecaster> still no sound
[03:25] <jason_froebe> but you have video?
[03:25] <lorecaster> i always had video :P
[03:25] <lorecaster> only... faces are blue for some reason.
[03:25] <lorecaster> and no Nitro... i'm alergic to all the good stuff
[03:25] <jason_froebe> ahhh..  do you get audio at all when you log in (gnome, kde, etc)?
[03:25] <jason_froebe> any sounds at all/
[03:25] <lorecaster> the strongs thing is that RhythmBox plays my MP3's fine
[03:26] <lorecaster> *strange
[03:26] <lorecaster> -rubs cheek and sucks thumb while tearing up- :P
[03:27] <jason_froebe> k - another guy had a similar issue a couple days ago.  open up the audio mixer (I forget what it is called in gnome) - try different outputs while vlc is playing
[03:27] <nitr0ix> people you start to scare me
[03:27] <jason_froebe> ?
[03:31] <lorecaster> everything is off-mute, everything is max-volume in my mixer... every option for display is on
[03:31] <nitr0ix> try to reboot
[03:31] <lorecaster> crtl + alt + bkspc?
[03:31] <nitr0ix> yeah
[03:31] <lorecaster> ttys :D
[03:31] <jason_froebe> are you using a second audio card or anything?
[03:32] <nitr0ix> booo
[03:32] <nitr0ix> !
[03:32] <jason_froebe> but have a motherboard audio
[03:32] <nitr0ix> i am so scary xD
[03:32] <jason_froebe> card as well?
[03:32] <jason_froebe> it's gotta be something obvious as sound works in rhythmbox
[03:33] <itai_michaelson> hi, nautilus has gnome-photo-printer which allows you to print several pix on one page, what is the kde alternative?
[03:33] <itai_michaelson> or can i use gnome-photo-printer  with konqueror?
[03:34] <jason_froebe> itai_michaelson - don't know to be honest, I use picassa for photo management/printing
[03:34] <jason_froebe> and gimp for processing
[03:35] <p_quarles> itai_michaelson: digikam is the KDE app for photo management and printing
[03:35] <lorecaster> no change.
[03:35] <lorecaster> -tear-
[03:35] <bdizzle> hi, need some help on open office
[03:36] <itai_michaelson> p_quarles, do i need to import the pix to didgikam everytime i want to print them? cause i will be mainly printing from various network shares
[03:36] <bdizzle> on something that is normally a piece of cake in Powerpoint, but I don't use Impress that often, so the details need to be learned
[03:36] <jason_froebe> lorecaster - are you using the builtin audio on your motherboard?
[03:36] <jason_froebe> or a separate audio card?
[03:36] <lorecaster> seperate
[03:36] <lorecaster> it works fine for rythmbox
[03:36] <bdizzle> I'm trying to figure out how to do timings of animations of objects in a slide
[03:37] <jason_froebe> can you reboot again but into bios and make sure the motherboard audio is disabled?
[03:37] <p_quarles> itai_michaelson: it manages your collection; as long as the shares are persistent, you don't need to re-import anything
[03:37] <jason_froebe> I'm guessing ubuntu is confused
[03:37] <jason_froebe> as to where to send the audio
[03:37] <lorecaster> that works :D thanks. ... IT'S NOT THE ONLY ONE! :p
[03:37] <lorecaster> back soon, friends.
[03:38] <itai_michaelson> p_quarles, say someone just added a pic to a share, another user wants to print it, what should hw do?
[03:38] <lorecaster> and stew on this, i still get blue faces... yellows are seen as greens, beiges as blue-greens
[03:38] <jason_froebe> let's get the audio first
[03:41] <itai_michaelson> jason_froebe, same question, can picasa manage pix on remote shares,also when pix are added to the share picas immidiately sees tham?
[03:42] <jason_froebe> remote shares...  not directly, you need to mount the remote shares so they appear to be local (mount -t cifs ...)
[03:42] <itai_michaelson> jason_froebe, they are mounted
[03:43] <itai_michaelson> at boot
[03:43] <jason_froebe> then.. yes
[03:43] <jason_froebe> :)
[03:43] <nitr0ix> maybe something wrong with video file ;)
[03:43] <lorecaster> onboard audio WAS installed... and i diabled it
[03:43] <jason_froebe> try it now...  cross fingers :)
[03:43] <itai_michaelson> my question is , a user uploaded some pix to a share called "pix", another user on a different box wants to print them, what does he do?
[03:44] <nitr0ix> save picture....then print
[03:44] <lorecaster> :o
[03:44] <lorecaster> YOU DESERVE A MEDAL!!!
[03:44] <jason_froebe> lorecaster - woohoo!!!  congrats :)
[03:44] <nitr0ix> (o_O)
[03:44] <itai_michaelson> nitr0ix, "save"/
[03:44] <itai_michaelson> ?
[03:44] <lorecaster> -bounces in a happy dance-
[03:44] <nitr0ix> right click save as
[03:44] <nitr0ix> then open and print
[03:45] <itai_michaelson> nitr0ix, from konqueror?
[03:45] <jason_froebe> itai_michaelson - if the second user has that folder 'being watched' within picassa, then it will show up for them to print in the applicaton
[03:45] <nitr0ix> yeah
[03:45] <nitr0ix> or firefox or opera what ever you prefer
[03:45] <jason_froebe> lorecaster - go celebrate and watch some vids :)
[03:45] <lorecaster> AHHHHH!!! THIS IS FANTASTIC!!!
[03:45] <lorecaster> you all deserve flowers!
[03:46] <nitr0ix> meh lets party
[03:46] <nitr0ix> girls and alcohol on you
[03:46] <itai_michaelson> jason_froebe, ok, so to print he will need to open picasa, can i set picasa to display the pix as a file browser (not by name/date/tag but by location)?>
[03:47] <jason_froebe> yes... they folders will show up as "folders" in Picassa
[03:47] <jason_froebe> albums are the equivalent of 'virtual folders'
[03:47] <jason_froebe> in picassa
[03:47] <lorecaster> blessings to you all, Goddess has a special place reserved for you (heart)
[03:47] <jason_froebe> :)
[03:48] <itai_michaelson> jason_froebe, let me install picasa and get back to you, is there a deb?
[03:48] <jason_froebe> yup - one sec
[03:49] <jason_froebe> itai_michaelson - http://picasa.google.com/linux/download.html#picasa30
[03:49] <itai_michaelson> jason_froebe, thanks, downloading,,,
[03:49] <jason_froebe> np
[03:51] <itai_michaelson> jason_froebe, one more question , can i set konqueror (or nautilus ) to open image with picasa?
[03:53] <jason_froebe> probably - right click on a photo and open with ... choose picasa  - never did it with picasa but don't see why it wouldn't work
[03:53] <nitr0ix> wow the piratebay is still working
[03:53] <jason_froebe> nitr0ix - slashdot.org had an update on it earlier today
[03:54] <nitr0ix> erm what do you mean?
[03:54] <nitr0ix> Swedish Museum Puts Pirate Bay Server On Display this? xD
[03:55] <jason_froebe> http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/17/110235&art_pos=22
[03:56] <nitr0ix> aint no stopping us grand torrent mafiaz...
[03:57] <jason_froebe> lol
[03:58] <nitr0ix> lets hope i dont get my bottom whooped cause of downloading that disturbed album...
[03:58] <itai_michaelson> jason_froebe, i have installed picacs, but it seems to arrange folders by date, i need them to be set up by location, we are many network shares and users are going to look for a folder by location eg /server/pictures/may/nature/mountains
[04:00] <jason_froebe> view -> folder view
[04:00] <jason_froebe> you can sort it different ways there
[04:07]  * jason_froebe 'tis quiet in here
[04:09] <thebe> hello, in knoppix netcardconfig command works but not in kubuntu, what is the command for the same purpose in Kubuntu?
[04:13] <jason_froebe> System Settings -> Network Settings
[04:15] <itai_michaelson> jason_froebe, picasa is very nice, but unfortunately doesnt have the features we need, thanks anyway
[04:15] <jason_froebe> itai_michaelson - no problem..  maybe one of the other people on here has another idea
[04:16] <jason_froebe> you may also want to ask on #linux or #ubuntu as well
[04:19] <itai_michaelson> jason_froebe, thanks
[04:19] <jason_froebe> np and good luck! :)
[04:29] <simba_> i have a question about konqueror, sometimes i end up showing the page sources instead of the page content...it there a hot key to switch between those views?
[04:32] <zerothis> How to I use a wireless print sever? The server is detected by my card.
[04:42] <husayn> how to open .chm file in kubuntu
[04:44] <jason_froebe> husayn - kchmviewer
[04:44] <jason_froebe> zerothis - wireless as in bluetooth or wifi?
[04:47] <zerothis> sorry i didn't specify, wi-fi.
[04:48] <jason_froebe> zerothis - for wifi, it will show up as a normal network printer.  you can probably just search for it when adding a printer
[05:05] <jason_froebe> night all - off to bed
[05:17] <solid_liq> !ping
[05:18] <david_> I just installed kubuntu-desktop package; I don't think I have a KDE package manager. Is this normal?
[05:18] <david_> (Jaunty)
[05:19] <jamesjedimaster> yes, it's normal
[05:20] <david_> Which would you recommend?
[05:21] <jamesjedimaster> I haven't tried jaunty, but adept works fine in intrepid; which is replaced by kpackagekit
[05:21] <david_> Ok, will try that out. Thanks
[05:21] <jamesjedimaster> anytime
[05:22] <kde185> this is driving me nuts.  Is there a way to make kwallet not ever ask for a password?  I'm on the jaunty rc.
[05:23] <kde185> or at the least, make network manager not use kwallet
[05:32] <jt1j> kde185: this is a pet peeve for me as well.  I haven't found a solution other than hitting "cancel" every time
[05:40] <kde185> jt1j: yeah, I don't know what jackass thought it would be a good idea, but it seems with Jaunty you can't simply hit 'cancel' anymore
[05:42] <gz> hi
[06:37] <pault> anyone would help on how can i play divx movie in kubuntu? im new with linux
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[06:49] <Jonie> anyone's using firefox in KDE4 ?
[06:51] <TeslaTony> What's the issue?
[06:51] <Jonie> the firefox3.0.8 still run in the background after i click the close button
[06:52] <TeslaTony> Every time?
[06:52] <nitr0ix> erm
[06:52] <Jonie> yes!
[06:52] <nitr0ix> kde preloads it
[06:53] <TeslaTony> That'd do it
[06:53] <nitr0ix> so it open faster next time ;)
[06:53] <Jonie> i hate to use pkill to kill the process
[06:53] <TeslaTony> Don't worry. Processes don't have feelings. It's OK to kill them
[06:53] <TeslaTony> nitr0ix: How would you prevent the preloading?
[06:53] <nitr0ix> do not know sorry... but whats wrong with it?
[06:54] <nitr0ix> it does not harm your pc in anyway ;)
[06:54] <Jonie> TeslaTony:  sure!  but when i want to use it the next time, you know what happen: Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.
[06:54] <nitr0ix> oh...
[06:55] <nitr0ix> does not happen to me..
[06:55] <nitr0ix> tho i use firefox just for 1 website that does not work that well in konqueror
[06:55] <Jonie> nitr0ix:  i don't even know how to fix it out.
[06:55] <nitr0ix> google....my friend google is the answer ;)
[06:56] <nitr0ix> but
[06:56] <Jonie> nitr0ix:  got nothing
[06:56] <nitr0ix> why use firefox?
[06:56] <Jonie> i did google for many times
[06:57] <Jonie> i like it pretty much than kon!
[06:57] <nitr0ix> erm... dont like firefox in kde...looks ugly cause need GTK
[06:57] <nitr0ix> if its in gnome its decent
[06:57] <nitr0ix> but Galeon is alot better ;)
[06:57] <Jonie> you can install kde4-gtk-engine
[06:57] <TeslaTony> I'll take functional over ugly any day
[06:58] <TeslaTony> or over pretty
[06:58] <Jonie> galeon, what's that?
[06:58] <nitr0ix> try it
[06:58] <nitr0ix> apt-get install galeon
[06:58] <Jonie> base on qt?
[06:58] <nitr0ix> hmm not sure
[06:59] <nitr0ix> nop GTK
[06:59] <Jonie> ok, i go trying it right now
[06:59] <nitr0ix> just tryed to apt-get it now...seen the list of packages and cancelled it..
[07:00] <nitr0ix> Need to get 41.3MB/43.6MB of archives.
[07:00] <nitr0ix> After this operation, 255MB of additional disk space will be used.
[07:00] <nitr0ix> lol
[07:00] <nitr0ix> erm did you ever try Swiftfox?
[07:00] <nitr0ix> its firefox optimized for certain CPU
[07:01] <Jonie> nitr0ix:  you know that, i'm been telling these archives also
[07:01] <nitr0ix> they got ubuntu packages
[07:01] <Jonie> i have no idea with swiftfox
[07:01] <nitr0ix> http://getswiftfox.com/
[07:01] <Jonie> maybe i don't need that browser
[07:02] <nitr0ix> Swiftfox is an optimized build of Mozilla Firefox. Swiftfox has builds for both AMD and Intel processors and is based on the most cutting edge Firefox source code available.
[07:02] <Jonie> maybe opera is the better one to try a use
[07:02] <nitr0ix> means latest firefox...so maybe it will solve problem with "Another instance of firefox allready running"
[07:03] <Jonie> nitr0ix:  the repo.?
[07:03] <Jonie> for 9.04
[07:03] <nitr0ix> they got deb packages on a site...dont know about the repo
[07:03] <nitr0ix> deb http://getswiftfox.com/builds/debian unstable non-free
[07:04] <nitr0ix> heres the debian repo
[07:04] <nitr0ix> but youll need to select one for your CPU ;)
[07:04] <nitr0ix> apt-get update && apt-get install swiftfox-athlon-xp
[07:04] <nitr0ix> this will install it for athlon xp series
[07:04] <Jonie> i download it,  manually install it
[07:05] <nitr0ix> yeah thats probably easier
[07:05] <nitr0ix> + swiftfox icon looks sooo much cooler then firefoxes xD
[07:05] <Jonie> oh, it's still be the 3.04 version
[07:06] <nitr0ix> well it is build from source for a specific CPU :)
[07:07] <Jonie> i got it
[07:07] <Jonie> why don't we get a qt version of firefox?
[07:09] <nitr0ix> its being ported i think
[07:09] <Jonie> any news for that porting thing
[07:09] <Jonie> ?
[07:10] <Jonie> we get a bot here, in this channel?
[07:10] <nitr0ix> !ubuntu
[07:10] <nitr0ix> xD
[07:11] <nitr0ix> !Firefox |Jonie
[07:11] <nitr0ix> lol
[07:11] <Jonie> funny
[07:11] <nitr0ix> ubuntu world domination plans coming true
[07:12] <nitr0ix> hmmm is there anyway to detect the albums/track marked as unknown in amarok2 this is getting frustrating..
[07:13] <Jonie> nitr0ix: ooh, this remind me something about this F*ing amarok2, i got no sound.
[07:13] <nitr0ix> he he
[07:14] <nitr0ix> aw i see now it sorted it ok....
[07:14] <Jonie> i install all those codecs packages
[07:14] <nitr0ix> what kde version you use/
[07:14] <nitr0ix> ?
[07:14] <Jonie> kde4.2.2
[07:14] <nitr0ix> jaunty? :)
[07:15] <nitr0ix> you dont have sound at all or just in amarok?
[07:15] <Jonie> yup
[07:15] <Jonie> just in amarok
[07:16] <nitr0ix> dunno then mine worked out of the box
[07:16] <Jonie> why all these frustrating things happen to me!
[07:17] <nitr0ix> your the lucky one...i quess..
[07:17] <Jonie> 囧
[07:17] <nitr0ix> well i upgrade from 8.10 clean install after upgrade i removed ~/.kde directory
[07:17] <nitr0ix> thats it
[07:17] <nitr0ix> then isntall codecs and bingo works
[07:18] <Jonie> thanks telling, maybe i should remove my ～／.kde 2
[07:19] <nitr0ix> it will remove every settings that you have changed in kde
[07:19] <nitr0ix> youll start with clean kde
[07:19] <nitr0ix> if i understand it right xD
[07:20] <Jonie> ok, but do i have to remove that folder!?
[07:20] <nitr0ix> do not know :)
[07:20] <nitr0ix> maybe...
[07:20] <nitr0ix> but you wont loose much if you do
[07:21] <kamesh> Hi everybody, I have a question on installing nVidia Drivers for my kubuntu system
[07:21] <kamesh> is it complicated?? I can't seem to go for higher resolutions on my 22" LCD monitor
[07:22] <kamesh> without the nVidia drivers. I am a newbee... can somebody help me install the drivers??
[07:22] <nitr0ix> hmmm did you tryed changing resolution in nvidia-settings?
[07:23] <Jonie> you guys are all english native speakers?
[07:23] <nitr0ix> nop
[07:23] <nitr0ix> >_>
[07:23] <kamesh> where are the nVidia settings?? I just installed kubuntu 2 weeks before. I don't have any drivers installed for my Geforce 6600 card
[07:23] <nitr0ix> oh go to applications/system/hardware drivers and install nvidia drivers from there
[07:24] <kamesh> ok
[07:24] <kamesh> lemme try
[07:24] <nitr0ix> meh i hate gnome now...
[07:25] <Jonie> why?
[07:25] <Jonie> any thing bothers you or what
[07:25] <nitr0ix> dunno when i first used ubuntu 6.04 ( i think) gnome was faster...now its more like erm Explorer
[07:26] <nitr0ix> slowish
[07:27] <Jonie> but some guys else tell gnome run fast than kde, i dunno
[07:27] <nitr0ix> but that time i tryed Kubuntu and Ubuntu together and Kde seemed alot slower
[07:27] <nitr0ix> and now kde is ALOT faster then gnome for me
[07:27] <nitr0ix> mabe those guys been using it without compiz effects ;)
[07:27] <Jonie> haha..............
[07:27] <nitr0ix> maybe*
[07:29] <nitr0ix> i get like 50fps while moving window...on a 20$ graphics card >_>
[07:29] <nitr0ix> i am shocked xD
[07:29] <Jonie> :P
[07:30] <Jonie> searching food to eat, talk latter
[07:30] <nitr0ix> he he
[07:30] <nitr0ix> support pirate bay...sEEED!
[07:30] <nitr0ix> 5kb/sec omg!
[07:33] <kamesh> hey nitr0ix, I got to the Display-system settings->Hardware tab where it shows Graphics card nv and driver nv
[07:34] <nitr0ix> alt+f2
[07:34] <kamesh> next to that configure is there, which shows mine selected as GeforceFX(generic)
[07:34] <nitr0ix> nvidia-settings
[07:34] <kamesh> says couldn't run the specified command
[07:34] <nitr0ix> erm
[07:35] <kamesh> I'm sorry...
[07:35] <kamesh> erm??
[07:35] <nitr0ix> did you install nvidia-drivers?
[07:35] <kamesh> nope
[07:35] <kamesh> I really did not install anything
[07:35] <kamesh> just the OS and that's it
[07:36] <nitr0ix> ok go to your menu
[07:36] <nitr0ix> then go to Applications submenu
[07:36] <nitr0ix> then to System
[07:36] <nitr0ix> then click on "Hardware Drivers"
[07:36] <nitr0ix> then select the driver version and click Activate
[07:36] <nitr0ix> then reboot
[07:37] <kamesh> In "application->system" menu, "Hardware Drivers" isn't shown. Does it show on Kubuntu 6.10??
[07:38] <nitr0ix> oh
[07:38] <nitr0ix> you got kubuntu 6.10
[07:38] <nitr0ix> (O_O)
[07:38] <kamesh> yes sir
[07:38] <nitr0ix> yay thats ancient
[07:38] <kamesh> oh
[07:39] <nitr0ix> meh we are moving toward 9.04 allready xD
[07:39] <nitr0ix> but you can try google it
[07:39] <kamesh> Ok. Thanks
[07:39] <lorecaster> i have a question for you guys... you fine, wonderful, glorious guru's of linux.
[07:39] <kamesh> I'll see if I can install it some other way.
[07:39] <nitr0ix> http://ubuntuexperiences.blogspot.com/2007/01/ubuntu-edgy-nvidia-installation-guide.html
[07:39] <nitr0ix> here try this
[07:40] <lorecaster> i've got dual monitors and a x64 system... when i try to activate desktop special effects, it tells me it cannot do it. is it because i have 2 monitors?
[07:40] <nitr0ix> meh i wish i had 2 monitors...
[07:40] <nitr0ix> xD
[07:41] <lorecaster> hey nitro!! :D
[07:41] <nitr0ix> sup
[07:41] <lorecaster> i've got a 22" LCD, a 17" LCD and a windows box for Autocad with a 17" CRT on the same desk
[07:41] <lorecaster> over a meter of desktop realestate
[07:41] <nitr0ix> meh my 19" is enough for me lol
[07:42] <lorecaster> i want to replace the two miss-matched 17"'s for 2 more 22"'s... but my wife wants to 'eat'
[07:42] <lorecaster> pfft
[07:42] <nitr0ix> i guess having 1 desktop means being minimalistic this days xD
[07:42] <lorecaster> it does
[07:42] <nitr0ix> well why dont get one 30" ?
[07:43] <lorecaster> because i don't have 500$ to spend on one :P
[07:43] <nitr0ix> lol
[07:43] <kamesh> thanks
[07:43] <nitr0ix> go ebay you can get 200-300$
[07:43] <lorecaster> i wish i had the 42" LCD, in the living room, on my desk (after some reinforcement
[07:43] <nitr0ix> ha ha
[07:43] <lorecaster> there's a 32" touchscreen i've been eyeballing...
[07:44] <lorecaster> but 2 grand is a bit much...
[07:44] <nitr0ix> multitouch?
[07:44] <lorecaster> yepyep :D
[07:44] <nitr0ix> 2000$ + 150$ for windows seven lol
[07:44] <lorecaster> it's like the Imacs... the whole tower is built into the back, side-mount slot-loading optical drive...
[07:45] <lorecaster> pfft, who buys operating systems any more? :P
[07:45] <nitr0ix> piratebay rox?
[07:45] <nitr0ix> xD
[07:45] <lorecaster> demonoid
[07:45] <nitr0ix> he he
[07:45] <nitr0ix> for some reasons never got good speed on demonoid
[07:46] <lorecaster> depends on how you go about it... most of the popular downloads are pretty good... but i like the interface
[07:46] <lorecaster> i mean... -ahem-... for testing purposes only.
[07:46] <nitr0ix> lol
[07:47] <nitr0ix> lol holywood gonna come after demonoid 2 95% sure bout it
[07:47] <lorecaster> already did... they set up servers in a different coutnry after Canada banned the service :P
[07:47] <nitr0ix> lol really?
[07:48] <nitr0ix> aw....where does this world go...
[07:48] <lorecaster> they were down for about 6 months after the canadian film board or whoever the hell it was sanctioned supreme court about the invasion of privacy or something
[07:48] <nitr0ix> soon i wont even be abble to watch porn in my own house...
[07:48] <lorecaster> they said... "fine..." and shut down... they packed up thier toys and moved away. we were all using european proxies by then anyway :P
[07:49] <nitr0ix> he he
[07:50] <nitr0ix> well most of the time i use private bt tracker...tho they got 5 gigs limit per account... but when you have more then 20 emails guess it goes easy ;)
[07:51] <lorecaster> teef! :D
[07:52] <nitr0ix> yeah but its like after 5 gigs you need to have more then 0.3 upload ration to be abble to download torrent files ;)
[07:53] <nitr0ix> usually i download 20 torrent files in to 1 folder...you can get this way as much files as you can
[07:56] <lorecaster> any solutions to my monitor problem?
[07:57] <nitr0ix> erm i know the solution
[07:57] <nitr0ix> gonna cost you 20$ xD
[07:57] <nitr0ix> he he
[07:57] <nitr0ix> goolge!
[07:58] <lorecaster> i wonder... hey... if there's a way... to have 2 towers functioning as one (beowolf cluster?) and spread THAT monster across 3 monitors :D
[07:58] <lorecaster> RAID computers
[07:58] <nitr0ix> you are a geek
[07:58] <nitr0ix> lol
[07:59] <nitr0ix> sometimes its just better to get soome expensive *** pc like alienware that gonna replace you 5 PC's
[08:00] <lorecaster> do YOU have the money for the Alienware ALX?
[08:00] <lorecaster> me either
[08:00] <lorecaster> next option pls
[08:00] <lorecaster> remember my friend... the Geek shall inherit the earth
[08:00] <nitr0ix> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[08:00] <nitr0ix> maybe this post will help
[08:02] <lorecaster> that didn't give me the answer i was looking for... meanie head
[08:03] <lorecaster> back in a sec
[08:04] <nitr0ix> lol
[08:06] <nitr0ix> well maybe its a bug..but who know..never had dual monitors so cant help you xD
[08:06] <nitr0ix> and i am not a menie
[08:06] <nitr0ix> meanie*
[08:06] <nitr0ix> *runs away crying*
[08:07] <lorecaster> you may all rejoice now :) i have returned
[08:07] <nitr0ix> hate torrents
[08:07] <nitr0ix> ....
[08:08] <nitr0ix> got my self LP discography and its all just a bunch of mixes...
[08:08] <nitr0ix> shame
[08:08] <lorecaster> torrents take practice to nativigate sometimes
[08:08] <lorecaster> -ahem- if you use such things
[08:09] <codebaz> Does anybody know about any program that can do "Speech to Text" under LINUX ?
[08:10] <nitr0ix> i think orca is is made for this or i am wrong
[08:10] <nitr0ix> !orca
[08:10] <lorecaster> better question, has anyone found any speach recognition program that does it's job WELL? :P good luck
[08:10] <nitr0ix> nop i am wrong
[08:12] <codebaz> Does anybody know about any program that can do "Speech to Text" under LINUX ?
[08:12] <nitr0ix> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeVoiceControl  maybe this will help
[08:14] <nitr0ix> <---- I am a googling machine
[08:14] <nitr0ix> dont mess with me
[08:15] <lorecaster> i am just as bad with Wikipedia
[08:15] <nitr0ix> lol
[08:16] <nitr0ix> anygood reasources for HD cool wallpapers?
[08:16] <lorecaster> www.cognativedistortion.com
[08:16] <lorecaster> or however it's correctly spelled... forgive my dyslexia
[08:16] <lorecaster> :$
[08:16] <nitr0ix> (O_O)
[08:17] <nitr0ix> google saves the day again...
[08:17] <nitr0ix> http://www.hddesktopwallpapers.com/category/video_games/
[08:17] <lorecaster> http://www.cognitivedistortion.com/
[08:17] <nitr0ix> ;)
[08:17] <nitr0ix> thx
[08:18] <lorecaster> awe jeez... hermione is destined for porn
[08:18] <nitr0ix> (O_o)
[08:19] <lorecaster> just some of the pics i've seen her in... are sloping in one direction... and have you READ some of the fanficks?
[08:19] <lorecaster> (gross)
[08:20] <nitr0ix> meh you loosing it
[08:22] <lorecaster> lol
[08:23] <lorecaster> i must be off though... the day runs long. we'll chat later :D i'm sure to have more problems as i explore this system
[08:23] <nitr0ix> he he yeah i need some sleep 2
[08:27] <codebaz> Does anybody know about any program that can do "Speech to Text" under LINUX ?
[08:30] <dwidmann> codebaz: seem to be a couple in the repositories ... sphinx2-bin and julius ... dunno if they work (well) or not
[08:59] <olskolirc> there is no alsaconf in ubuntu?  how do I run a sound test?
[08:59] <olskolirc> kubuntu
[09:16] <CQ> hello, I have a hardy laptop that I want to get to jaunty, how do I best so that? jsut select pre-release updates in adept?
[09:39] <Sorcerer> can anyone tell me why kubuntu installs perfectly fine, but when i boot it up, i get nothing more then a greyish colored screen after the kubuntu load screen?
[10:05] <Adapter_> test
[10:16] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[10:17] <ForgeAus> toying with a pre-releaase of Google Chromium for Linux, its  ok... seems to work for the most part sofar... only thing I havn't got going yet (that it doesn't support) is flash (ie youtube) and the options dialog box...
[10:17] <ForgeAus> most other stuff works fairly nicely...
[10:40] <quassel208> guys why cant you get 64 bit cds anymore on shipit ?
[10:44] <CQ> how do I best migrate ubuntu to kubuntu?
[10:44] <CQ> just apt-get isntall kde-desktop?
[10:44] <jussi01> no
[10:44] <jussi01> kubuntu-desktop
[10:44] <CQ> ok, thanks
[10:52] <drbobb> in current ktorrent, does the upnp even work?
[10:52] <drbobb> uh, current == jaunty RC
[10:56] <drbobb> hmm setting the font for the chat window in Quassel doesn't work, at all
[10:58] <nitr0ix> best way is to download an iso and install it from scratch
[11:11] <fosco_> veamos como se porta la RC...
[11:11] <fosco_> ups, wrong channel, sorry
[11:18] <hcooh_> does anyone knows a graphic program to convert wma and m4a in mp3 ?
[11:38] <drbobb> cool, finally a kde4 look i can live with: skulpture for widgets, atelier for plasma
[11:46] <drbobb> Is there anything in kde4 with functionally more or less like Miro - or am i better off just installing Miro?
[11:46] <drbobb> s/functionally/functionality/
[11:49] <abc> hi
[11:49] <abc> Sysinfo for 'abc': Linux 2.6.24-23-generic running KDE 3.5.10, CPU: Intel(R)Core2DuoCPUE4500@2.20GHz at 1200 MHz (4399 bogomips), , RAM: 521/2026MB, 110 proc's, 20.29min up
[11:56] <aib> what program will show the volume of the sound coming through the mic?
[12:19] <Mamarok> aib: Kmix
[12:21] <ungethym> Hi together.
[12:22] <ungethym> My sister is on kubunto (very new) and can't start adept-manager with root-rights.
[12:23] <ungethym> Can anybody tell me the command to start adept-manager from konsole? (I'm on OpenSUSE and don't know).
[12:23] <ungethym> "kdesu adept-manager" doesn't work
[12:25] <Mamarok> ungethym: normally, it asks you your password when you start adept with krunner
[12:26] <ungethym> she told me that, too. but it doesn't ask anymore.
[12:26] <ungethym> So I thought if you run it with sudo it might ask again.
[12:26] <Mamarok> she has Intrepid, doesn't she?
[12:26] <Mamarok> you have to run kdesudo adpet-manager
[12:26] <Mamarok> there is no root password in Kubuntu
[12:27] <xorred> hey guys, how con I configure PPPOE on my kubuntu 9.04? I had before the xubuntu-desktop, then I installed the kubuntu-desktop, now all the configuration tools are in the xubuntu-desktop, I've set it as system in xubuntu now I can't change them in any kubuntu tool
[12:28] <Mamarok> xorred: I guess kppp is not installed by default
[12:28] <ungethym> thanks, Mamarok. That was the command I was looking for.
[12:28] <Mamarok> ungethym: you are welcome :)
[12:30] <xorred> Mamarok: it was not, I installed it, it can't find my current settings?
[12:31] <xorred> and it dies when I click "new" connection
[12:32] <xorred> how can I see my current pppoe settings in kubuntu
[12:33] <ungethym> Mamarok: btw: Nice interview on the planet. Have a great time.
[12:45] <Mamarok> ungethym: thx :)
[12:46] <cllaudyu> help! plasma is crashing too many times
[12:46] <cllaudyu> help! plasma is crashing too many times...
[12:47] <cllaudyu> :((
[12:48] <cllaudyu> help! plasma is crashing too many times
[12:49] <Mamarok> xorred: I'm sorry, I never used it, so I can hardly help you
[12:49] <Mamarok> !kppp
[12:49] <Mamarok> !pppoe
[12:50] <Mamarok> xorred: did you try looking in the System Settings -> Network settings
[12:51] <Mamarok> I suppose it doesn't show up in the network-management-widget
[12:54] <xorred> thanks Mamarok, ubottu
[12:54] <Mamarok> xorred: you are welcome :)
[13:25] <f16__> +
[13:25] <f16> 3
[13:25] <f16> helloooooo
[13:25] <f16> any human here ?
[13:26] <gadevoi> me
[13:27] <bazhang> f16, yes
[13:38] <bazhang> !pm > klien4
[13:39] <bazhang> klien4, please dont PM without asking first thanks
[13:48] <xorred> how can I find out my current pppoe settings?
[13:54] <noaXess_kubuntu> hi anybody
[13:55] <gadevoi> hi
[13:55] <noaXess_kubuntu> can't play dvd.. vlc or dragon player nothing works.. any idea?
[13:55] <gadevoi> installed libdvdcss2 ?
[13:55] <noaXess_kubuntu> gadevoi: think no..
[13:55] <bazhang> !medibuntu
[13:56] <noaXess_kubuntu> is it a single package or is it in another one?
[13:57] <EagleScreen> noaXess_kubuntu: have you got libdvdread?
[13:57] <noaXess_kubuntu> EagleScreen: no
[13:58] <noaXess_kubuntu> also from medibutu
[13:58] <EagleScreen> libdvdread4 is a library to read DVDs, it is free so it can be in universe or main
[14:01] <gadevoi> libdvdcss2 is for protected DVDs, you have to install it after libdvdread
[14:02] <kanonmat_> what mediaplayers use libdvdread4 and libdvdnav4?
[14:05] <marie_blubb> hi, i'm just installing sunbird. so i downloaded it but where do you normally extract your programms. under windows that was something like C>programs>sunbird . I'm looking for a place where programms are usually stored
[14:05] <EagleScreen> I think vlc doesn't need that libraries to read DVDs
[14:08] <EagleScreen> marie_blubb: /usr/local
[14:10] <marie_blubb> EagleScreen. thanks but it tells me I don't have permission when I want to extract it
[14:11] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[14:12] <EagleScreen> marie_blubb: if you plan to install it only for you, do it in a subfolder inside your $HOME. If you plan to install it for all users, install it inside /usr/local, but in order to can do it in /usr/local you have to do it as root or super user
[14:12] <EagleScreen> !sudo | marie_blubb
[14:12] <gadevoi> BluesKaje, here is 3.15 PM
[14:13] <kanonmat_> good afternoon :)
[14:14] <gadevoi> thanks
[14:20] <admin_> is there any simple way to get kde 4.2.2 in kubuntu hardy?
[14:21] <LjL> in hardy, afraid not (but can't swear on it)
[14:21] <admin_> heh, thanks.
[14:27] <kanonmat_> I'm trying to play a dvd with mplayer. I can't play .IFO or .VOB files
[14:27] <Mamarok> kanonmat_: do you have all codecs installed?
[14:28] <kanonmat_> i can play it with kaffeine :)
[14:28] <Edward_Hyde> People... what's a good brand of video card, with great drivers, for using with Jaunty + desktop effects ?
[14:28] <Mamarok> Edward_Hyde: the NVIDIA drivers seem to work, sadly some ATI cards fail
[14:29] <Edward_Hyde> My card is ATI, it's very frustrating
[14:29] <Mamarok> mine too, but for everyday work I really don't need Desktop Effects, but would be nice to have indeed
[14:33] <obunn> hi
[14:33] <obunn> how do  i add a panel in jaunty?
[14:37] <zabbadapp> is it possible to get panles to scroll smoothly? ... when scrolling through plasma themes for download, it's hard to understand how far the jump is for each turn of the scrollwheel
[14:37] <zabbadapp> s/panles/panels/
[14:37] <ian_> obunn: place your mouse right at the top of the screen and right-click
[14:38] <ian_> On the desktop, I should say
[14:38] <ian_> Also works at the edges of the desktop
[14:39] <ian_> In fact, I see it now works ANYWHERE on the desktop!
[14:39] <obunn> zero points
[14:39] <obunn> i don't get any extra options in the right click menu
[14:40] <ian_> WHen I right click on my desktop it offers 'add panel' as the third item in the right-click menu
[14:43] <obunn> i installed kubuntu desktop over the regular ubuntu
[14:43] <obunn> could i be missing something?
[14:43] <kanonmat_> isnt there a setting to choose how many lines to scroll with scrollwheel?
[14:44] <Mamarok> obunn: did you only install the kubuntu-desktop package?
[14:44] <Mamarok> then your are missing a lot of stuff
[14:46] <obunn> i have the kubuntu desktop package. that's how i installed kubuntu
[14:48] <obunn> i'm really confused. i installed ubuntu beta and the pulled the kubuntu package
[14:53] <xorred> kubuntu 9.04, every time I close firefox it keeps living in the process tree
[14:53] <xorred> so I can't kill it unless I kill -9 it
[14:54] <xorred> what could be the reason?
[14:55] <okto> obunn: are you using folder view desktop?
[14:56] <obunn> yes. desktop containment fixed the issue
[14:57] <zabbadapp> kanonmat_: yes, but it is still "jumpy" (and the plasma-theme-browser skips more than 3 lines as the setting states)
[14:58] <okto> obunn: :)
[14:58] <kanonmat_> so it skips more lines in plasma-theme-browser than in the rest of the system?
[14:58] <kanonmat_> tthen i don't know
[14:59] <zabbadapp> felt more like pg-down than scroll ...
[15:08]  * ian_ grooves mysteriously
[15:09] <xorred> boo
[15:25] <elisa>  pause
[15:25] <Dekans>  ||
[15:26] <rmrfslash> Kubuntu 9.04 is really coming along :D
[15:26] <rmrfslash> I can almost say that I'm rarely coming across any bugs.
[15:27] <Dekans> Amarok seems to be stable now
[15:27] <Dekans> If you want bugs try Koffice 2 :p
[15:27] <rmrfslash> yeah, there were a lot of updates for amarok yesterday
[15:27] <rmrfslash> is koffice any good?
[15:28] <rmrfslash> I'm noticing a couple of little visual bugs (icons overlapping things they shouldn't) but these are only noticable to someone like me
[15:28] <BluesKaj> Dekans, does amarok 2 give bitstream rates on internet radio ?
[15:28] <rmrfslash> off-by-one problems probably
[15:29] <Dekans> Barbadillo: I don't listen radio
[15:29] <Dekans> I try and I tell you
[15:29] <rmrfslash> usplash is all messed up for me though
[15:29] <Dekans> BlueEagle sorry
[15:30] <whirleystar> amarok is stable now?  it still keeps wiggin out on me... all of a sudden starting like a week ago.... i think it might be my system, tho
[15:30] <Dekans> rmrfslash: Koffice 2.0 is not a stable release, like KDE 4.0 was
[15:30] <Dekans> but it's amazing
[15:31] <rmrfslash> kool
[15:32] <rmrfslash> ill wait
[15:32] <rmrfslash> I don't want to disrupt my experience
[15:33] <Dekans> BlueEagle: I don't see it
[15:33] <kollia> hello
[15:35] <BluesKaj> Dekans , are you talking to me ?
[15:35] <Dekans> yes
[15:35]  * BluesKaj is my nick
[15:36] <Dekans> ah fuck
[15:37] <bazhang> Dekans, no cursing please
[15:38] <xorred> currently, kubuntu 9.04, I have 2 keyboard layouts - bulgarian and us, and they switch with alt+shift, and I can't seem to figure how to switch that to ctrl+shift
[15:38] <xorred> I tried dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it asked me about keyboard layout shortcut, but... still the same
[15:41] <bassmans> bonjour à tous
[15:41] <bazhang> !fr
[15:41] <RurouniJones> bonjour
[15:42] <bassmans> thank's bazhang for the !fr
[15:42] <bassmans> nice to see you
[15:43] <xorred> anyone aware of a way to reconfigure keyboard layout switching?
[15:43] <Dekans> xorred: system setting -> regional and language, you have an alternate shortcut
[15:43] <Dekans> for the main one I don't know
[15:44] <xorred> I don't have System setting
[15:44] <xorred> I have a K button
[15:44] <xorred> then System menu, or a Settings menu
[15:44] <xorred> kde 4.2
[15:45] <xorred> ok I've found it
[15:45] <xorred> there are Keyboard Layouts
[15:46] <xorred> and they're disabled
[15:46] <xorred> and I want to point out - I want them to   stay this way
[15:46] <xorred> I need a system wide setting, not a kde wide setting
[15:46] <w-heat> hi, my camera (Digital Ixus 70) can be found in Konqueror via camera://, but does not mount as a folder; is there any way I can achieve this please?
[15:46] <xorred> currently, my kb layout switch lights up the scroll lock led... I want to keep it that way
[15:46] <xorred> just change the keyboard shortcut
[15:46] <xorred> wihch is now alt+shift..
[15:48] <xorred> even if I enable them there, the shortcut stays the same
[15:48] <xorred> I set it to be ctrl+shift, it stays alt+shift
[15:48] <xorred> there is another setting somewhere, I can't find it.. :(
[15:49] <xorred> oh I found it
[15:49] <xorred> I had both of them selected
[15:49] <xorred> both switching options...
[16:00] <atilla> Hello
[16:04] <mnd999> hi, i'm getting the occaional problem with wine corrupting all my fonts? is this a known issue?
[16:08] <weedar> I have an Intel Pentium dual-core processor T4200 - Will I get 64-bit kernel with the "PC (Intel x86) desktop CD" or do I have to get the "64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD" even though it's Intel and not AMD?
[16:09] <bazhang> weedar, core duo or core 2 duo
[16:10] <vincenzo> ciao atutti
[16:10] <bazhang> !it
[16:10] <vincenzo> #ubuntu-it
[16:11] <vincenzo> come ci vado
[16:11] <relicgeek> weedar: amd64 and intel 64 are the same as far asthe version is concerned.
[16:11] <bazhang> vincenzo, /join #ubuntu-it
[16:11] <relicgeek> you can use 32 bit too, if you want
[16:11] <vincenzo> vincenzo, /join #ubuntu-it
[16:11] <bazhang> core duo is 32bit core2 is 64
[16:12] <user6> hello ... a fast  tip . Where's the file that handle reposities?
[16:13] <bazhang> user6, /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:13] <relicgeek> user /ect/apt/sources.list
[16:13] <user6> thank you buddies ... too gentle
[16:13] <relicgeek> though, some repos have their own source files in the /ect/apt directory
[16:14] <bazhang> /etc/ yep
[16:18] <rohitj> I am on kde4.2.2. I use a wirelese connection for internet. My wifi router broadcast the dns settings as well. But I want to use opendns. How can I do that? I can not change the dns settings in the router.
[16:18] <rohitj> [11:09] <rohitj> it seems that networkmanager doesn't allow me to do that.
[16:22] <weedar> bazhang & relicgeek: So I should go with 4-bit? My machine has 4GB of RAM and I want to be able to address it all, even if there are certain minor issues with 64-bit linux :)
[16:22] <weedar> I mean 64-bit of course, 4-bit would be a bit of a step in the wrong direction :)
[16:23] <relicgeek> lol
[16:23] <bazhang> hehe
[16:23] <relicgeek> 4 gb or more? you'd want 64 bit
[16:23] <bazhang> 4bit might break things
[16:23] <relicgeek> 4 bit... no. you could go 2 bit with windows ;p
[16:23] <weedar> I hear windows often goes t(w)o bits... ;-)
[16:23] <relicgeek> lol
[16:24] <bazhang> weedar, if you have the core2 then you can try it :)
[16:24] <relicgeek> amusingly, i'm stuck with a win2k box till i get kubuntu jaunty working on my main laptop
[16:24] <weedar> bazhang: All-right I go for it. Bought a new laptop for my gf today and thought I'd try Jaunty on it. Could be interesting :)
[16:24] <bazhang> weedar, good luck :)
[16:24] <weedar> Oh, Jaunty still has major show-stoppers?
[16:25] <relicgeek> weedar: i tried installing it on a ext4 partition, no luck
[16:25] <rohitj> weedar: is a good way or bad way?
[16:25] <relicgeek> so going back to ext3
[16:25] <relicgeek> and praying to various random deities ;p
[16:25] <weedar> relicgeek: yeah, I heard ext4 is still buggy, but I don't really think I need that just yet :)
[16:25] <weedar> rohitj: Excuse me?
[16:26] <relicgeek> weedar: oh, and lack of wpa2 support on the new network manager i'm told
[16:26] <relicgeek> my network is hybrid wpa and wpa2 so its no biggie
[16:26] <weedar> I just have bad memories from upgrading to Intrepid...Major issues with networkmanager and my Intel wifi-card..I actually had to use GNOME for a week or two until upgrades came along and fixed those issues
[16:26] <rohitj> weedar: you said that Jaunty has major show-stoppers. Did you mean that it has lot of bugs, or it has lot of awesome things. (in fashion world, show-stopper actualy means the prettiest lady on stage)
[16:27] <weedar> relicgeek: aha...I think I might actually be using wpa2 currently...could I use the gnome nm-applet until the issue is resolved?
[16:27] <relicgeek> robinr: bugs
[16:27] <weedar> rohitj: hehe, I meant bugs :)
[16:27] <rohitj> weedar: lolz ok
[16:27] <relicgeek> weedar: thats what they suggest, or knetwork manager
[16:28] <relicgeek> i'll also need to see if i can get quassel set up on my intrepid server
[16:29] <weedar> relicgeek: aha, so It's just the new plasma-applet that's broken
[16:29] <relicgeek> weedar: donno
[16:29] <relicgeek> i haven't booted into it yet ;p
[16:30]  * relicgeek is tempted to put 8.10 back on ><
[16:34] <weedar> I'm only considering Jaunty since this is a new laptop, I'll wait at least a month before I upgrade on my laptop, since I use it at work
[16:35] <noren> hi all
[16:37] <relicgeek> weedar: well, its not working for me ;p
[16:37] <relicgeek> unless its doing something at first boot that takes ages
[16:38] <xorred> I have a very strange process on my system taking up all my cpu
[16:38] <xorred> gvfsd-http
[16:38] <noren> relicgeek: whts the prob
[16:38] <xorred> how can I see why?
[16:39] <weedar> relicgeek: at what point does it freeze?
[16:39] <relicgeek> noren: well its jaunty, so i was asking on the orher chan. I have a fresh install with a pair of 4 gb partitions (root and home). I tried ext4 first then ext3 for root. It says boot from (hd...) then Starting up
[16:39] <relicgeek> then there's a blinking cursor for quite a while, and it seems to be running my processor at full throttle cause the laptop's running hot
[16:40] <ArGGu^^> hello is there way to prevent system notifications be over fullscreen windows?
[16:40] <ArGGu^^> I'm using kde4
[16:40] <relicgeek> so, after grub, before bootsplash
[16:40] <weedar> relicgeek: so your boot partition is still ext4?
[16:40] <noren> relicgeek: did u try booting up in safe mode
[16:40] <relicgeek> no
[16:40] <relicgeek> not yet
[16:41] <noren> ArGGu^^: are u getting system notification on full screen windows ?? thats odd
[16:41] <relicgeek> one more try, then i go back to intrepid ;p
[16:41] <relicgeek> noren: recovery mode?
[16:42] <noren> relicgeek: i hav jaunty but have not tried the ext4 as of yet
[16:42] <weedar> I really want Jaunty to be a good release.. I've been using Kubuntu for a few years now and the last few releases have been buggy in both beta-state and shortly after release..While a few releases back I had no issues even with alpha-version
[16:42] <ArGGu^^> noren do you have unredirect fullscreen windows = true?
[16:42] <relicgeek> weedar: ya. same reason i was trying to upgrade
[16:42] <noren> relicgeek: yest select from the grub list
[16:42] <relicgeek> hmm
[16:43] <weedar> Also my colleague at work who uses Ubuntu keeps bashing KDE saying it's pretty but unstable. Lately he's been right :/
[16:43] <relicgeek> recovery mode seems stuck at "ACPI : Checking initramfs for custom DSDT"
[16:43] <relicgeek> weedar: 3.5x was great for me. 4.x ... needs polish
[16:43] <ArGGu^^> I have unredirect fullscreen windows true so the compositing won't slow my games
[16:44] <lorecaster> hey all... any idea how i can share a folder across my windows XP machine and my ubuntu 8.1 machine?
[16:44] <weedar> relicgeek: I know..But I'll hang in for a while longer, I'll be damned if I loose a Desktop Environment war! ;-)
[16:45] <relicgeek> lorecaster: samba
[16:45] <lorecaster> i've got a thumbdrive, i've got an external USB hard drive... samba? cools. :) thanks
[16:45] <relicgeek> weedar: i was running the experimental 4.2 repos, on intrepid
[16:45] <relicgeek> was a huge improvement
[16:45] <noren> relicgeek: try with ACPI =OFF option
[16:45] <ArGGu^^> but if system notification comes up my game flashes and slow downs
[16:45] <relicgeek> lorecaster: AKA windows file sharing
[16:45] <lorecaster> neat
[16:45] <ArGGu^^> but it only last 1-2 seconds
[16:46] <relicgeek> noren: wow.. its been a while since i did that. should be in the kernel line, right?
[16:46] <weedar> relicgeek: Good, hope is on the horizon then it might seem
[16:47] <lorecaster> antoher question... how well would the new 9.04 run on a Celeron 2.8ghz machine, 40gb hdd and 512 mb ram with onboard video??
[16:47] <relicgeek> noren: acpi = off worked
[16:47] <relicgeek> lorecaster: pretty well
[16:47] <noren> relicgeek: yes
[16:47] <weedar> I'd love to get involved in developing KDE to improve it, but then I'd have to brush up on my programming skills and probably divorce my wife to find the time :)
[16:48] <relicgeek> noren: that works... now... is there anything i can do to work out what exactly is the error for a bug report/proper fix?
[16:48] <weedar> lorecaster: You'd probably want to turn off desktop effects
[16:48] <noren> not a good option weedar
[16:48] <devilsadvocate> weedar, i dont think you should install jaunty - or any unstable software - _for_ someone
[16:48] <lorecaster> perfect... autocad has been a dog to run in linux, and i need my mightier computer to run it... i want to keep it on my amd64 x2 2.66 w/ 4gb of ram and 1.5tb drive... but Autocad just won't handle a windows box like the first i described
[16:48] <BluesKaj> lorecaster, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[16:48] <noren> relicgeek: just see that if u have all the latest updates
[16:48] <weedar> devilsadvocate: It's a new laptop and I'll probably notice quickly if it's buggy. If it is, I'll just install Intrepid instead :)
[16:49] <lorecaster> there's a big difference, i've learned, in the 'requirements' and what is functioanl :P
[16:49] <devilsadvocate> lorecaster, probably quite well. turning off compositing would definitely help
[16:50] <BluesKaj> lorecaster , mosy of you specs are fine altho 1G memory would really help , IMO
[16:51] <lorecaster> i had to frankenstein this computer together, and it's a DELL... -sigh-, i REALLY appreciate the input..... i think i may install the new ubuntu on the weaker computer, turn graphics down, and see how that runs... i don't want windows at all, to be honest with each of you, but Autocad hates linux :(
[16:51] <BluesKaj> lorecaster, 20-35 bucks for mem stick will put you in fine shape to run 9.04
[16:51] <jason_froebe> lorecaster - what about xubuntu?
[16:51] <jason_froebe> requires alot less horsepower
[16:52] <devilsadvocate> lorecaster, thats not a weak computer, although you'd do well with more ram
[16:52] <lorecaster> that's what i mean... it's a dell, and both mem sticks are used. i'd need to buy two fresh ones... and i'm not in a position at the moment to do it. but i shall keep that in mind :D thanks!
[16:52] <devilsadvocate> lorecaster, i have a 800 mhz p3 with 384 mb of ram, and kde 4.1 was quite usable on it (although slow and hence causes a drop in productivity)
[16:52] <relicgeek> lol
[16:53] <weedar> If you were to guesstimate, how long would it take to install Kubuntu on a laptop and finish downloading updated packages? Under 1 hour?
[16:53] <relicgeek> devilsadvocate: all you need is more ram
[16:53] <devilsadvocate> weedar, depends on your internets
[16:53] <devilsadvocate> relicgeek, yeah. sadly, i now have only 256 mb (the other chip got whacked) so im back to fluxbox :P
[16:53] <weedar> devilsadvocate: I've got a 12Mbit connection or so
[16:54] <devilsadvocate> weedar, estimate around 1 hour + time to download 700 mb
[16:54] <ncfi1013> how do you burn a downloaded dvd rip to a dvd that has .vob, .ifo, and .bup files in it?
[16:54] <devilsadvocate> weedar, to install, configure, etc
[16:54] <relicgeek> devilsadvocate: my server is a pIII 450, with 640 mb or ram ;p
[16:54] <weedar> correction, 18Mbit..The ISO got downloaded in about 5 minutes or so I think
[16:55] <relicgeek> i suspect it could handle kubuntu other than its graphics card
[16:55] <devilsadvocate> relicgeek, the problem is the latency on day-to-day use
[16:55] <relicgeek> devilsadvocate: that box was... suprisingly fast with kde 3.5.10. Never tried kde 4 tho
[16:56] <devilsadvocate> i also saw a noticeable performance improvement on kde 4.1 - kde 4.2 upgrade
[16:56] <kanonmat_> ncfi1013: doesnt k3b know what to do with a rip?
[16:58] <weedar> The reason I ask is that I wanted to finish the setup of the pre-installed Vista on this laptop. It took ages before I could log in, over an hour at least. Then made room for linux by shrinking one partition and rebooted..It spent 10 minutes configuring updates
[16:58] <relicgeek> lol
[16:58] <relicgeek> weedar: windows tends to be a pain to inisially set up
[16:59] <devilsadvocate> weedar, it typically takes me an hour to get the system up to my requirements, which includes theming, etc :P
[16:59]  * relicgeek uses offline updates, then needs a half dozen pieces of extra shit to get it to do what linux does outta the box
[16:59] <kanonmat_> how do i install gtk themes? im trying gtk-theme-switch on .tar files
[16:59] <Pollywog> Do the non-graphical installers have an option to encrypt the drive?  I usually use the alternate installers and they have such an option but I do not see one in the rc desktop Kubuntu install
[17:00] <lg188> what do i use to install a program ?
[17:00] <ncfi1013> if it was simple iso file i would know what to do with it.
[17:01] <ncfi1013> ...kanonmat
[17:01] <lg188> thank you
[17:02] <Pollywog> lg188: is this a program you downloaded?
[17:02] <relicgeek> noren: i love you in an entirely platonic way. it works now
[17:03] <Pollywog> and what does the extension of the filename look like?
[17:03] <kanonmat_> lg188: use your package manager, is it Kpackage?
[17:03] <lg188> Pollywog: i need to install the gstream-plugins package,
[17:03] <lg188> brb
[17:04] <Pollywog> oh then do 'sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[17:04] <kanonmat_> aptitude install gstream-plugins :)
[17:04] <kanonmat_> sudo !!
[17:04] <Pollywog> or what kanonmat_ said
[17:04] <lg188> i'm already root
[17:04] <kanonmat_> nice
[17:06] <lg188> damed, probably beceaus i have a live cd version of an related OS, i can' install stuf
[17:06] <geri> how could add ifconfig eth0 <ip> netmask <netmask> up  route add default gw <gw-ip> to a conf file?
[17:08] <lg188> well it seems that aptitude isn't a command in my bash
[17:08] <Pollywog> geri: you could use 'kdesudo editor filename'
[17:08] <Pollywog> lg188: then use apt-get
[17:08] <geri> is ther another conf file?
[17:08] <geri> i know resolv.conf
[17:08] <geri> but there should be another one?
[17:08] <geri> network.conf?
[17:08] <lg188> apt-get isn't to , treid alreayd default os is ubuntu
[17:08] <weedar> geri: add something like this to /etc/network/interfaces - http://pastebin.com/d4f249775
[17:09] <Pollywog> geri: I think you are looking for the scripts for networking but I think the name of the script has changed recently
[17:09] <Pollywog> let me have a look'
[17:09] <geri> yeah but changed to?
[17:09] <geri> ok
[17:09] <Pollywog> cd /etc/network
[17:09] <geri> its a conf file?
[17:09] <lg188> oh is a package in ubuntu like a component in kubuntu ?
[17:09] <Pollywog> look at the interfaces script there
[17:09] <weedar> geri: read my comment
[17:10] <lg188> nope ..
[17:10] <relicgeek> lg188: no, a package is simply an installer thing
[17:10] <geri> hm
[17:10] <devilsadvocate> geri, yeah, its a conf file : /etc/network/interfaces
[17:10] <Pollywog> geri scroll up, weedar answered your question
[17:10] <lg188> relicgeek: i know , but mayeb ubuntu and kubuntu names are difrent ?
[17:11] <relicgeek> lg188: no
[17:11] <Pollywog> lg188: the desktops are different but many tools are the same
[17:11] <relicgeek> ubuntu and kubuntu are identical other than the default desktop envirionment
[17:11] <relicgeek> even then sometimes you can mix and match
[17:12] <lg188> okey
[17:12] <kanonmat_> lg188: if you are running a live cd of another distro you cant use ubuntu commands
[17:12] <geri> davilsadocate could i add there: ifconfig eth0 <ip> netmask <netmask> up  route add default gw <gw-ip>
[17:13] <Byron> How can I modify the height of my K Menu Kickoff?
[17:13] <lg188> well call it a modifeid kubuntu live cd
[17:13] <weedar> geri: did you read my comment and the contents of the pastebin-link I gave you?
[17:13] <lg188> distro
[17:13] <Barridus> !paste
[17:14] <kanonmat_> i want a gtk theme for gtk apps in kde. in im trying gtk-chtheme Maqua_Gtk2x_by_monkeymagico, but nothing happens to the gtk apps
[17:15] <kanonmat_> and a lot of other themes cant even be loaded
[17:17] <lg188> I'll check there web page
[17:20] <geri> yeah i did
[17:20] <geri> weedar
[17:20] <kanonmat_> lg188: why not boot your kubuntu on hdd and install from there?
[17:20] <server_> anyone can help me how to instal squid in ubuntu server 8-10...thx
[17:21] <weedar> geri: Was something unclear?
[17:21] <geri> no
[17:21] <geri> how could i restart the network?
[17:21] <geri> by using if-up.d ?
[17:22] <lg188> kanonmat_: not isntalling , and i'm runnign an sort of kubuntu it only looks like and has a bunch of ools kubuntu has, but i can't install it anyway
[17:22] <weedar> geri: after adding those lines (alter them to suit your needs), all you need to do is "ifdown eth0" and then "ifup eth0" to bring it up with config from /etc/network/interfaces
[17:24] <weedar> geri: also, if you put "auto eth0" on the line before those I sent you the interface will come up automatically when you boot, otherwise you'll have to run an "ifup eth0" each time
[17:26] <lg188> is Juk an audio player ?
[17:26] <geri> i tells me interface eth0 not configured
[17:27] <geri> but i configured in network/interfaces
[17:27] <weedar> geri: paste the contenst of your /etc/network/interfaces to pastebin.com or similar
[17:27] <weedar> *contents
[17:28] <geri> ok works
[17:28] <geri> i chould call ifuo eth0
[17:28] <drewdiddy> wondering if anyone can help me with my x1950 pro driver installation on 8.10....it seems i installed them through hardware drivers but everything feels sluggish graphically still
[17:28] <geri> p
[17:29] <lg188> it works :)
[17:29] <EGMACHADO> Why Kubuntu is slower than ubuntu?
[17:29] <geri> thanks weedar
[17:30] <kanonmat_> it depends on what you enable EGMACHADO
[17:31] <kanonmat_> kde is a bit bigger than gnome iirc
[17:31] <EGMACHADO> Kanonmat_ ok... understood! Do you recommend the Jaunty version?
[17:31] <yevgeny> yo
[17:31] <kanonmat_> i havent tried jaunty yet
[17:31] <hamit> hi i have a problem with knetworkmanager.. My wireless network is wpa-tkip.. I cannot connect to it unless i fill expert settings
[17:32] <hamit> when i restart my pc it fails again
[17:32] <EGMACHADO> hamit> What's your machine?
[17:32] <hamit> laptop
[17:33] <EGMACHADO> hamit> open a console, than type lspci. After that post here the results
[17:33] <drewdiddy> wheres my best bet for assistance with hardware problems such as sound and video?
[17:33] <EGMACHADO> or in private
[17:33] <yevgeny> trying to fix x-fi sound driver for ubuntu!!! No luck :(
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[17:34] <hamit> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
[17:34] <hamit> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 03)
[17:34] <hamit> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[17:34] <hamit> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02)
[17:34] <hamit> 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 02)
[17:34] <hamit> 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 02)
[17:34] <hamit> 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
[17:34] <hamit> 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
[17:34] <hamit> 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
[17:34] <hamit> 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
[17:34] <hamit> 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
[17:34] <hamit> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e2)
[17:34] <hamit> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
[17:34] <hamit> 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Controller (rev 02)
[17:34] <hamit> 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
[17:34] <hamit> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72M [Quadro NVS 110M/GeForce Go 7300] (rev a1)
[17:34] <hamit> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)
[17:34] <hamit> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[17:34] <hamit> 06:01.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller
[17:34] <hamit> 06:01.1 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 19)
[17:34] <hamit> 06:01.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller (rev 01)
[17:34] <hamit> 06:01.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 0a)
[17:34] <EGMACHADO> that's it?
[17:34] <drewdiddy> 1.  ati x1950 pro drivers.. installed them supposedly through the activate hardware drivers, everything still feels quite sluggish though.  proprietary fglrx drivers are the ones being used
[17:34] <kanonmat_> no, use pastebin! :)
[17:34] <drewdiddy> haha
[17:35] <kanonmat_> !pastebin
 probably it's listed in lsusb
[17:35] <Eruaran> Pastebin widget
[17:35] <yevgeny> anyone has any info on X-Fi drivers for ubuntu, 32-bit?
[17:35] <EGMACHADO> he lspci post just showed your ethernet controler
 post in private the lsusb result
[17:36] <hamit> ok
[17:36] <syatarich> #LINUX
[17:36] <drewdiddy> and 2.  creative x-fi xtrememusic drivers
[17:38] <drewdiddy> is this not the right arena for such questions?  if not, could someone direct me to the appropriate place?
[17:40] <kanonmat_> i guess it depends on who is on, drewdiddy
[17:42] <drewdiddy> hmmm
[17:43] <weedar> relicgeek: indeed the network-plasma-thingy does not support wpa2 :/
[17:45] <relicgeek> weedar: lol...
[17:45] <relicgeek> quessel seems a pain compared to konversation
[17:48] <BluesKaj> quassel needs some work. The chat text is too "busy" looking for my taste.
[17:48] <BluesKaj> amongst other PITAs
[17:49] <weedar> relicgeek: knetworkmanager didn't work much better either...I'll toy around a bit with it, but unless I get wireless working I'm back to Intrepid for a wihle :)
[17:51] <kanonmat_> knetworkmanager has been bad to me, i think there are better cli tools
[18:05] <hamit> is there any hacker here??
[18:07] <BluesKaj> !hacker | hamit
[18:08] <hamit> i know who a hacker is
[18:08] <hamit> i have a problem called arp poisoning
[18:08] <hamit> anyone helps?
[18:09] <p_quarles> hamit: you might try ##security
[18:09] <hamit> thanks
[18:09] <EGMACHADO> !hacker | hamit
[18:10] <EGMACHADO> !hacker | hamit
[18:10] <EGMACHADO> !hacker | hamit
[18:10] <EGMACHADO> !hacker | hamit
[18:10] <EGMACHADO> !hacker | hamit
[18:10] <EGMACHADO> !hacker | hamit
[18:10] <EGMACHADO> !hacker | hamit
[18:10] <hamit> sorry?
[18:18] <jose> Hi, I'm testing the jaunty rc and it's looking great!
[18:23] <jose> The only problem, xorg is using a lot of CPU if I turn on the efects (either with opengl or with xrender)
[18:24] <jose> and without effects I got render glitches all of the windows.
[18:24] <arran> jose, what graphics card?
[18:24] <jose> I've got an intel card. Is this a know problem?
[18:25] <jose> Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960
[18:25] <arran> yes, unfortunaly
[18:25] <drewdiddy> i cant get my x1950 drivers to work to save my life
[18:25] <drewdiddy> wtf
[18:25] <zer0o> does anyone play planeshift or can suggest the planeshift support chat?
[18:26] <zer0o> kewl
[18:26] <jose> oh, crap! I was willing to used kubuntu, I lateley have been used gnome but I prefer kde
[18:26] <jose> Is this a problem of the intel drivers for this xorg version?
[18:27] <jose> Anyway to fix it?
[18:27] <arran> I upgraded yesterday and stumbled into the same problem..
[18:27] <p_quarles> jose: give the live disk a test drive; I have an Intel card, and frankly the problems aren't bad at all
[18:27] <arran> found a few suggestions that seems to work for some people, but it seems to vary greatly
[18:27] <jose> I've already installed the rc, I'm using it right now.
[18:28] <arran> jose, try using uxa instead of exa, or try the old intel 2.4 driver.. (but neither really worked well for me)
[18:28] <jose> In my case the problems are quite noticeable. With the opengl effects on, I get no render glitches but the cpu use is too much
[18:30] <arran> jose, I switched to UXA, and I got the cpu down about half I think. but I still have an idle load of 0.3 ( think it was 1.2 or something at first)
[18:30] <arran> so, not perfect, but at least usable
[18:30] <jose> arran, how do I use uxa, is an xorg.conf modification?
[18:31] <arran> yes, just put option "accelmethod" "uxa" in the video card section
[18:31] <jose> ok, I'm going to try!
[18:32] <arran> tell me if it made any difference, eh?
[18:32] <jose> yes, I will.
[18:36] <declanpwalsh> Hi, This may seem like a stupid question, but how do i set up a printer?
[18:38] <declanpwalsh> Hello?
[18:40] <jose> Hi, I'm back
[18:40] <declanpwalsh> Is anyone able to help with printers? I can't seem to work out how to set mine up
[18:40] <jose> Xorg has freeze when I was closing up, no good!
[18:40] <Dragnslcr> declanpwalsh- should be something like KMenu -> System -> Printer Configuration
[18:41] <jose> But now with UXA the render problems are gone and the cpu is more reasonable
[18:42] <declanpwalsh> Dragnslcr- yeah there is a printer configuration setting but it doesnt have settings for local printer. Only network!
[18:42] <arran> jose, is good or just better?
[18:43] <jose> well, I don't now yet, For sure is better but just testing
[18:44] <jose> With opengl the cpu is around 6% when idle, still a little higher, this is a laptop and the battery is a concern.
[18:45] <jose> I'll how it behaves with gnome and intrepid, I've got the system also installed as a backup.
[18:46] <Dragnslcr> declanpwalsh- hm, I dunno. It's been a while since I setup my printer
[18:46] <jose> But I'll like to stay in kde land for a with, kde is just nicer.
[18:46] <arran> let's hope it gets fixed soon enough then..
[18:47] <jose> arran, how's your case? Is with UXA usable?
[18:47] <Dragnslcr> declanpwalsh- if it's a USB printer, cups may auto-detect it
[18:48] <declanpwalsh> thats the problem i think. its parallel. its fairly old. hp laserjet 1100
[18:48] <arran> usable, but pretty crappy compared with intrepid..
[18:48] <jose> is the problem due to the intel drivers? Are they just buggy for this xorg release?
[18:49] <arran> well, there are lots of bug reports about it (even since december last year)...
[18:49] <arran> and yes, seems to have something to do with the intel 2.6 driver
[18:49] <jose> I just don't get why there are so many problems with the graphics driver in general?
[18:50] <Dragnslcr> declanpwalsh- KMenu -> System -> HPLIP
[18:50] <jose> I used to have a desktop with nvidia, but when I got the laptop I went with intel because of the freedom
[18:50] <Dragnslcr> declanpwalsh- that's specifically for HP printers
[18:50] <jose> nvidia was a problem and intel is just a different one. It's a shame.
[18:51] <jose> When I scroll in konqueror or in firefox my cpu just goes mad!
[18:53] <arran> i think there are some major changes right now with the intel drivers, xorg/dri2, uxa/exa, gem and probably some kernel stuff...
[18:54] <wool> alguem sabe como mudar o splash do ubuntu???aquele q fica a barrinha carregando?w
[18:54] <arran> so perhaps that's why. never had any problems with intel for the last three releases, but it's never been particularly fast either
[18:55] <jose> I don't need a fast graphics card, I don't play 3D games, I just need a working desktop
[18:56] <arran> i just need those fancy plasmoids and spinning cubes
[18:57] <jose> I guess I'm not so young anymore :)
[18:59] <arran> haha :)
[19:01] <jose> Well, I've found a deal breaker. Not kubuntu jaunty for me :( I can't play hd video with this setting
[19:02] <jose> I've tried with mplayer, I works perfect in intrepid and gnome, but it's choppy now.
[19:04] <jose> I would have like to stay in kde, but It's guess is not possible at this time. I'll try ubuntu jaunty just to see if there's any better.
[19:18] <rayner> hello
[19:33] <jose> I've been reading the bug repport 342923 and it's a sad story.
[19:33] <||arifaX> my main display is my notebooks lcd. at work I have a second lcd monitor with 1024x768. thunderbird starts always fine at work. now at home without the second monitor thunderbird does not start. I see the tasks with ps waux but it does not come up. any ideas. this is display depended!
[19:33] <jose> I'm going to try with the backported old driver.
[19:34] <yaa_> help
[19:36] <yaa_> anybody
[19:38] <yaa_> when i m adding new user / i cannot change his password
[19:43] <jim_002> Hi, does anyone else get ping spikes every 2 minutes or so when using wireless net? I had the same problem on windows until I disabled "Wireless Zero Configuration", and I'm assuming this is the same problem.
[19:44] <jim_002> I discovered it was due to the polling of available wireless networks.
[19:45] <portal> how to I get the wireless network in this new ubuntu 8.10?
[19:46] <jim_002> portal: I'm using 9.04, but I used the network module in system settings
[19:47] <jim_002> I'm pretty sure you can also use the /etc/network/interfaces or something like that also
[19:48] <portal> umm... well for firs what programs I need to get it work
[19:48] <yevgeny> helo
[19:48] <yevgeny> need help
[19:49] <jim_002> portal: system settings
[19:49] <yevgeny> How do I install a driver for my creative soundcard?
[19:50] <puddle> hn
[19:50] <puddle> hmm
[19:51] <portal> I don't  find that
[19:52] <portal> ok just a sec..
[19:52] <jim_002> portal: not sure then. I'm using 9.04 so it might have changed
[19:52] <jim_002> In mine it's system settings->network settings
[19:53] <yaa_> cannot change password with passwd
[19:53] <yaa_> help me
[19:53] <portal> ok now I have it
[19:53] <yaa_> !
[19:53] <portal> then what
[19:54] <jim_002> network management
[19:54] <jim_002> then you can add wireless connection
[19:56] <portal> I don't have there in the system settings anything
[19:57] <jim_002> portal: what version are you using?
[19:57] <portal> atheros
[19:57] <jim_002> I mean of kubuntu?
[19:57] <jim_002> 8.04?
[19:58] <portal> ok... ubuntu 8.10... whre I can go to that chat room or something
[19:58] <jim_002> hehe
[19:59] <jim_002> type: /join #ubuntu
[19:59] <jim_002> #ubuntu **
[19:59] <portal> thanks
[19:59] <jim_002> np
[20:00] <jim_002> Is it possible to disable wireless network polling ?
[20:01] <jim_002> it keeps giving me ping spikes every 2 minutes or so... :(
[20:04] <yevgeny> Can I somehow install windows drivers on Linux??
[20:07] <fosco_> yevgeny: ndiswrapper
[20:08] <Guest13477> hellow
[20:08] <Guest13477> help
[20:23] <ohama> Odd java error while starting an app. "Current thread is native thread". I first noticed it after an upgrade. Something about libc.so too. Would that be a java problem, kubuntu problem or application problem in your opinion?
[20:24] <starenka> hi, how to disable screen saver while watching a movie in kaffeine? i'm on jaunty - i never experienced sucha a problem in older versions..
[20:35] <anoncos> How can I change the appearance of an icon in a panel on 9.04 beta?  I have the file (a .kdb KeePass file) associated with KeePass, and it opens just fine, but the icon is still the default question-mark.
[20:42] <amgarchIn9> omg, I pressed Cntrl-Shift-T in konsole, how do I get a single window back?
[20:43] <ohama> Is there a known java error in kubuntu 8.10?
[20:43] <amgarchIn9> never mind, close others, Cntrl-Shift-O
[20:48] <kazagistar_> I can't seem to get the nVidea drivers working for my GeForce 9800 GT
[20:48] <kazagistar_> it keeps telling me the kernel module failed to load
[20:55] <yevgeny> Could someone please help me with ubuntu drivers?
[20:55] <nitr0ix> whats wrong with them?
[20:56] <yevgeny> I can't install creative X-Fi sound drivers
[20:56] <yevgeny> There is a driver for linux 64-bit
[20:56] <Aizawa> Every time I start Kubuntu, Intrepid or Jaunty, my screen resolution is reset to 1024x768. I only have to open the Display settings window for it to switch back to 1600x1200 though. I've asked this many times on the forums, but never got any replies. Perhaps it has a simple solution, but nevertheless, I don't know it.
[20:57] <nitr0ix> try it via nvidia-settings
[20:57] <nitr0ix> change the reso i mean
[20:57] <yevgeny> nvidia settings?
[20:57] <ohama> !someone
[20:57] <ohama> yevgeny: ask your question. if anyone knows they'll answer.
[20:58] <Aizawa> nitr0ix: Me?
[20:58] <nitr0ix> hmm you have nvidia GPU right? with drivers installed on it?
[20:59] <Aizawa> nitr0ix: I have an ATI card, but I use the, wassit called, the free software driver that is default. (Free software only)
[20:59] <yaa_> рудз ьу цшер зфыыцв
[20:59] <yaa_> help me with passwd
[20:59] <nitr0ix> whats wrong with passwd?
[21:01] <yaa_> it does not work
[21:01] <yevgeny> I have a Creative Soundblaster X-fi Fatal1ty soundcard but I can't install drivers on ubuntu, i tried to install a linux driver but the soundcard didn't work. maybe I can somehow install windows drivers on linux??
[21:01] <ohama> yaa_: Could you be a bit more specific?
[21:01] <nitr0ix> does it give any errors?
[21:01] <yaa_> i can change passswords through gui utility  only
[21:02] <yaa_> nitr --$? = 0
[21:02] <yaa_> when type passwd xxx
[21:03] <yaa_> it writes passwd: password updated successfully
[21:03] <yaa_> thats all
[21:03] <yaa_> password does not change
[21:04] <nitr0ix> it changes root password ;)
[21:04] <nitr0ix> not your account password
[21:04] <yaa_> ???
[21:05] <devilsadvocate> yaa_, it should work
[21:05] <yaa_> should but does not
[21:05] <devilsadvocate> yaa_, you're not using sudo right?
[21:05] <yaa_> im using it
[21:05] <nitr0ix> mmm it changes the one you use with sudo but not the one you log in with ;)
[21:06] <devilsadvocate> and although im not sure, perhaps a log out, log in may be required
[21:06] <yaa_> even when i m changing own password
[21:06] <devilsadvocate> yaa_, sudo passwd changes root password
[21:06] <devilsadvocate> just use passwd
[21:06] <yaa_> does not matter
[21:06] <yevgeny> is there anybody who uses creative X-Fi card on linux??
[21:06] <yaa_> sudo password xxx
[21:06] <devilsadvocate> yaa_, it does matter ...
[21:06] <yaa_> password xxx
[21:07] <devilsadvocate> yaa_, its not password either
[21:07] <devilsadvocate> so this : open up a new terminal, type "passwd" and hit enter
[21:07] <yaa_> not on my comp))
[21:07] <yaa_> i did try all the variants
[21:08] <Befolked> what up folks.
[21:08] <devilsadvocate> what exactly happens
[21:08] <yaa_> never again
[21:08] <yaa_> it does not ask for new pass
[21:08] <ohama> Befolked: I hate java. Not much else.
[21:08] <Befolked> does anyone know how to make it in quassel irc where you close the window but it just goes to your tray?
[21:08] <Befolked> ohama, i hate it too.
[21:08] <yaa_> it just writes passwd: password updated successfully
[21:08] <devilsadvocate> yaa_, you need to enter your old pass first
[21:08] <yaa_> i know))
[21:08] <yaa_> i do
[21:09] <Befolked> ohama, at least its cross platform. (H)
[21:09] <ohama> Befolked: write once, debug everywhere.
[21:09] <yaa_> after it it writes
[21:09] <yaa_> passwd: password updated successfully
[21:09] <devilsadvocate> yaa_, then try "sudo passwd username"
[21:09] <yaa_> i did
[21:10] <yaa_> the same
[21:10] <devilsadvocate> wierd
[21:10] <yaa_> (
[21:10] <yaa_> yes
[21:10] <yaa_> and I CAN change all the passws through gui
[21:10] <ohama> My reason for hating java. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/363480
[21:11] <yaa_> what it could be
[21:11] <yaa_> i cannot find anything around in google(
[21:12] <ohama> yaa_: You're not logged in to another computer via your terminal? I shut down the wrong computer once with that misstake. Not good.
[21:12] <Befolked> so does anyone actually use usenet?
[21:13] <yaa_> no
[21:13] <Befolked> thats weird.
[21:13] <yaa_> im on localhost
[21:13] <Befolked> oh.
[21:14] <ohama> Befolked: usenet? That's like the new piratebay.org isn't it?
[21:14] <Befolked> not really, i think its been around for a long time.
[21:14] <ohama> yaa_: Never heard of that problem before.
[21:14] <yaa_> ((
[21:15] <ohama> Befolked: I know. I was joking. I used usenet back in 94-95.
[21:15] <Befolked> ic.
[21:15] <Befolked> ohama, its nice because you get full download speeds.
[21:15] <yaa_> christos voskrese
[21:15] <Befolked> ohama, you must be old. xP
[21:15] <yaa_> pravoslavnyje
[21:15] <ohama> Befolked: ancient.
[21:16] <Befolked> i talk to this guy off the freespire forums
[21:16] <Befolked> hes almost 60.
[21:16] <Befolked> pretty cool. my grandparents are all dead.
[21:16] <ohama> Befolked: hey you little whippersnapper, get off my lawn. ;-)
[21:17] <Befolked> yeah, my dad made me mow some of the neighbors lawn today.
[21:17] <Befolked> how ironic.
[21:17] <yaa_> Christ is Risen!
[21:17] <yaa_> +
[21:17] <fracuzzo> hi all
[21:17] <Befolked> wut?
[21:18]  * Befolked goes to off-topic channel.
[21:18] <devilsadvocate> yaa_, try using yppasswd
[21:18] <yaa_> today is a holy day of easter
[21:18] <devilsadvocate> yaa_, nevermind
[21:19] <yaa_> ?
[21:19] <sachael> hi, i need a volunteer KDE user to test a command for me: http://pastebin.com/dc8f37b2
[21:20] <nitr0ix> hmm ill try
[21:21] <nitr0ix> object not accessible
[21:22] <sachael> awww, that's what I though. Are you using KDE 4 or earlier?
[21:22] <nitr0ix> kde 4.2.2 on kubuntu 9.04
[21:22] <sachael> nitr0ix, thank you for your help. :)
[21:23] <nitr0ix> np always welcome as long as those commands wont brake my system xD
[21:24] <ubuntu> test
[21:26] <PhilRod> sachael: your command will definitely only work for kde 3. In kde 4, you'll need to look into dbus (probably via qdbus, but there might be other command-line ways to access dbus)
[21:28] <PhilRod> sachael: actually, I can't find a relevant-looking dbus command using qdbusviewer, but you might want to ask in #plasma
[21:29] <sachael> PhilRod, i will, thanks. I knew i should use dbus, but google showed nothing
[21:30] <theuser1> in what cases is a website domain name is closed forcefully by the registrar or the company one buy a .com ?
[21:31] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ?
[21:35] <ohama> http://pastebin.com/m5e7d23cc anything that I can do to fix that error?
[21:38] <yevgeny> can I run starwars Battlefront II on ubuntu??
[21:39] <ohama> yevgeny: unknown. have a look at wine or cedega. Might be possible though.
[21:40] <noren> hi all
[21:40] <Auctionedllama> Hello
[21:40] <Auctionedllama> I need help with adding windows to grub
[21:41] <Auctionedllama> I just installed windows, and than reinstalled grub, and I tried manually adding windows to the list, but it won't.
[21:41] <Auctionedllama> *won't work
[21:41] <Auctionedllama> It's on my second harddrive, and theres only one partition, so would the grub coordinates be (hd1,0)?
[21:42] <Auctionedllama> Can anyone help me with that?
[21:42] <ohama> Auctionedllama: Don't you have to run some sort of grub-update-tool? I seem to remember something about that.
[21:42] <Auctionedllama> I didn't see anything in Ubuntu's help
[21:42] <ohama> Auctionedllama: Or perhaps that was just how you did things in lilo...
[21:42] <Auctionedllama> It said how do it manually, but its not working
[21:42] <Auctionedllama> :(
[21:43] <Dragnslcr> Auctionedllama- I would guess it would be 1,0
[21:44] <Auctionedllama> Well, when I try to run it in boot
[21:44] <Auctionedllama> It just says "Starting up..."
[21:44] <Auctionedllama> and nothing happens
[21:44] <Dragnslcr> Auctionedllama- this is what my entry in menu.lst looks like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/153660/
[21:45] <Dragnslcr> I haven't tried booting it in a long time, though, so I don't know if it still works
[21:45] <Auctionedllama> wow, mine is totally different.. heres mine:
[21:46] <Auctionedllama> (one sec, haha)
[21:47] <Auctionedllama> http://paste.ubuntu.com/153662/
[21:47] <Auctionedllama> I followed the tutorial here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#Quick%20Start
[21:48] <Dragnslcr> I dunno, I haven't had to do it before. I don't think I've booted into Windows in a couple years
[21:49] <noren> Auctionedllama: gub prob ??
[21:49] <Auctionedllama> I'll add yours then.
[21:49] <noren> grub
[21:49] <Auctionedllama> Yeah noren
[21:50] <noren> !grub
[21:50] <Auctionedllama> No, I installed grub fine
[21:50] <Auctionedllama> I cant add windows
[21:50] <ohama> http://pastebin.com/m5e7d23cc anything that I can do to fix that error? java -version gives segfault.
[21:51] <noren> oh ok
[21:52] <Salac> Auctionedllama: I would've tried Dragnslcr's version, never seen one like yours before. just make sure you get the rigth hdX param.
[21:54] <ubuntu> ciao
[21:56] <noren> Auctionedllama: is the prob solved or u still need help ??
[21:57] <Salac> noren: Auctionedllama [n=ben@adsl-75-60-214-67.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net] has quit IRC: Remote closed the connection
[21:57] <noren> Salac: ??
[21:58] <noren> oh sorry !! :(
[21:58] <Salac> xD
[21:58] <ped_thebest> oo
[21:58] <ped_thebest> oi
[21:58] <ped_thebest> hello
[21:59] <ped_thebest> come facc ad istallare programmi?
[21:59] <ped_thebest> come faccio ad istallare programmi
[21:59] <ped_thebest> ?
[21:59] <hallowname> !it > ped_thebest
[22:00] <Befolked> here we go
[22:00] <Befolked> parsix is at a god speed now
[22:01] <Befolked> aaand i just said this in the wrong channel, sorry.
[22:02] <noren> Befolked: what is parsix
[22:04] <nitr0ix> !parsix
[22:07] <noren> bbl
[22:08] <ped_thebest> CIAO
[22:08] <lawlzfries> hey guys, i have a server on a fast connection with a small HD (320GB). I have a large NAS (2TB) at home. I would like to use the NAS as storage on my server and the HD as a cache.
[22:08] <lawlzfries> can i do this?
[22:11] <lawlzfries> am i asking in the wrong channel?
[22:12] <dwidmann> lawlzfries: I'm sure you could do it (anything is possible when people put their minds to something), how to go about it though, I've no idea.
[22:13] <dima_> Hi,everyone. What's the difference between "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" and "update-manager -d" way to update the distro?
[22:13] <lawlzfries> well, more specifically i'm interested in knowing whether or not it's possible to have such a such cache with any of the major network filesystems
[22:13] <dwidmann> lawlzfries: and trying other channels/forums might not be such a bad idea
[22:14] <lawlzfries> i'm really new to computers, any recomendations?
[22:14] <dwidmann> dima_: update-manager does some other things that dist-upgrade won't do, I'm not sure what all that consists of though
[22:15] <dwidmann> dima_: as far as I've been told, update-manager is the "recommended" way to go about it
[22:15] <dima_> do I have to take any additional steps when doing the update with "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[22:15] <dwidmann> lawlzfries: anywhere high traffic is probably a good idea.. Maybe you can get some decent info from http://ubuntuforums.org
[22:16] <lawlzfries> dwidmann, thanks!
[22:16] <dima_> I'm asking because I've just updated to 9.04 beta with apt-method. Now I'm wondering if that's not the end of the story
[22:17] <dwidmann> dima_: well if it works then I wouldn't be too worried
[22:17] <dima_> :-)
[22:17] <pteague> how do i turn off the shaded window affect for modal windows?
[22:18] <dwidmann> pteague: maybe that would be somewhere in system settings -> desktop -> desktop effects, if it can be done
[22:19] <Arminius> bye
[22:20] <pteague> dwidmann: ah, thanks... i was looking in window settings and wasn't having any luck...  desktop effects -> all effects -> focus -> dialog parent :)
[22:21] <dwidmann> Hmm, I need to test amdcccle with the new version, but I'm not sure I want to ... 9.3 is crashy :(
[22:22] <dwidmann> and so might be 9.4
[22:27] <Aizawa> How do I restart X?
[22:27] <Aizawa> Without rebooting, that is.
[22:27] <hallowname> Aizawa: ctrl+alt+bkspace
[22:27] <hallowname> Aizawa: or from cli : 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart'
[22:28] <Aizawa> hallowname: The keystroke doesn't work for me for some reason, I'll try the terminal command
[22:30] <nitr0ix> ctrl+alt+backspase no longer works in ubuntu 9.04 ;)
[22:30] <hallowname> nitr0ix: serious? why? who's idea was that? *=[*
[22:31] <dwidmann> nitr0ix: why not?
[22:31] <nitr0ix> well i just noticed my self ;)
[22:31] <dwidmann> nitr0ix: and what file will I have to edit to get it back?
[22:31] <nitr0ix> dunno yet
[22:31]  * dwidmann will be back in a few minutes
[22:32] <hallowname> im too busy to test mine. u can prolly map it to that command from systemsettings i bet.
[22:33] <nitr0ix> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is now disabled, to reduce issues experienced by users who accidentally trigger the key combo. Users who do want this function can enable it in their xorg.conf, or via the command dontzap --disable.
[22:33] <hallowname> nitr0ix: gotcha. how does someone accidentally press that? lol
[22:33] <nitr0ix> dunno lol
[22:34] <nitr0ix> but you neet to run this dontzap command as root
[22:34] <nitr0ix> sudo dontzap --disable
[22:34] <nitr0ix> sek brb
[22:36] <quassel208> !purekde
[22:37] <savioxavier> hi!
[22:37] <nitr0ix> it acutally works
[22:37] <nitr0ix> after reboot tho
[22:40] <nitr0ix> does anyone actually know of any decent mmorpg with native linux client....that is fun to play?
[22:40] <peterhil> nitr0ix: I've been also missing ctrl-alt-backspace
[22:41] <peterhil> And that other which allows you to kill X windows
[22:42] <nitr0ix> hmm is there a big difference between ext3 and ext4?
[22:43] <infinull> I'm having problems with VLC/Phonon/Pulse/Amarok: What's the best way to get mixing to work in VLC, Flash Player & Phonon Apps (like amarok)
[22:43] <infinull> I'm running the 9.04 RC
[22:44] <nitr0ix> what do you mean by mixing..
[22:44] <infinull> in 8.10 I used pulse
[22:44] <infinull> the audio runs in both simultaneously
[22:44] <infinull> audio works in vlc
[22:44] <infinull> audio works in amarok
[22:44] <infinull> but not at the same time
[22:44] <nitr0ix> why do you want play audio at the same time?
[22:44] <infinull> (this means a lot of stopping / restarting)
[22:44] <peterhil> And there is a kdm logout freeze problem on kde4 too: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15162
[22:45] <peterhil> Why this isn't fixed yet?
[22:45] <nitr0ix> lol
[22:45] <nitr0ix> pay the devs to fix it
[22:45] <peterhil> :-)
[22:45] <nitr0ix> hmmm strange
[22:46] <nitr0ix> dont have any troubles with kde4 atm
[22:46] <nitr0ix> only one thing i guess
[22:46] <nitr0ix> 2 entries of nvidia-settings in the menu
[22:46] <Aizawa> Can't you just remove one?
[22:46] <nitr0ix> yeah i did ;)
[22:46] <Aizawa> haha, okay
[22:46] <peterhil> I just wonder how easy this would be to fix if someone just would do it.
[22:47] <nitr0ix> fix what?
[22:47] <nitr0ix> xD
[22:47] <Aizawa> I can't believe I haven't tried the XRender option before. OpenGL doesn't work with the free software drivers for some reason, but this does. I've been living in a compositing-less world for a few days. *It.. It was hard.*
[22:48] <nitr0ix> Xrender kinda sucky....
[22:48] <nitr0ix> as far as i heard
[22:48] <nitr0ix> back to that black screen on next login in kde 4
[22:48] <Aizawa> Well, perhaps it's because I have good hardware, but it does the job.
[22:48] <nitr0ix> aint fglrx is an ati driver?
[22:49] <Aizawa> Not to be a showoff, just that perhaps opengl works better with older hardware.
[22:49] <Aizawa> fglrx is ati, yes.
[22:49] <nitr0ix> then that logout problem is ati's fault not ubuntu's
[22:49] <Aizawa> I have never argued with you about that..?
[22:49] <nitr0ix> why does nvidia treat linux community more nicely then ati does?
[22:50] <peterhil> nitr0ix: The logout problem - or maybe it isn't that common. I just read that ext4 have journal checksums, defragmentation utility and extents.
[22:50] <Aizawa> Dunno. I have ati, on 3 different cards it has always worked perfectly well.
[22:54] <nitr0ix> so anything on linux native fun mmorpg ?
[22:55] <cinex> y yeah
[22:55] <Aizawa> The best mmo available in Linux (that I've found) was Planeshift. Which isn't very good by mmo standards.
[22:55] <nitr0ix> yeah played it
[22:55] <nitr0ix> sorta looks like Elder Scrolls
[22:56] <Aizawa> Well, looks like it perhaps. :P
[22:56] <nitr0ix> but i couldnt undersstand many things in it..
[22:56] <nitr0ix> i couldn't last for mroe than 20 minutes
[22:56] <nitr0ix> i quess regnum is quite good
[22:58] <nitr0ix> dang we need something like Lineage 2 with native linux client
[22:58] <s007> bonsoir
[22:58] <Aizawa> I used to play MMO's.. Got tired of them eventually. All I play now is deathmatch-fps-kinda-games. Luckily there are multiple good, open source ones for Linux.
[22:58] <s007> comment rejoindre un salon froncophone?!
[22:59] <nitr0ix> hmmm for example?
[22:59] <bazhang> !fr
[22:59] <Aizawa> Nexuiz, Warsow, OpenArena
[22:59] <s007> how to connect to ohter room?!
[22:59] <nitr0ix> hmm quess need to try them ;)
[22:59] <s007> !fr
[22:59] <bazhang> s007, /join #channel
[22:59] <nitr0ix> are those available from apt-get?
[22:59] <Aizawa> Warsow has some art that's not free, though, but I consider that to be okay.
[23:00] <Aizawa> Warsow is up to date in repos
[23:00] <Aizawa> Openarena and Nexuiz is not, though
[23:00] <Aizawa> Although if you download them from the site you launch them with scripts, and you don't need to install them, which is fine.
[23:01] <nitr0ix> whoah! openarena is a quake 3 like >_>
[23:01] <nitr0ix> my fav type
[23:01] <nitr0ix> kill anything that moves...
[23:01] <Aizawa> Yeah, well, all of these are quake-like
[23:01] <Aizawa> Openarena is a Quake 3: Arena clone, though
[23:02] <Aizawa> Also, Warsow isn't in the Jaunty repos (At least not in the 2 free ones), I just checked.
[23:02] <nitr0ix> he following NEW packages will be installed
[23:02] <nitr0ix>   warsow warsow-data
[23:03] <Aizawa> Either you're in Intrepid, or you have all repos enabled. I only have the OSS repos enabled
[23:04] <nitr0ix> nop i am on jaunty... tho upgraded from intrepid
[23:04] <Aizawa> Well, then you have all repos : P
[23:04] <Aizawa> Also, dang, I just cannot get over how good the new Air theme looks.
[23:05] <nitr0ix> Air?
[23:05] <nitr0ix> glassified owns
[23:05] <quassel208> ive jaunty with kde4.2.70
[23:05] <Aizawa> The new plasma theme that's in kde 4.3 (I use 4.2 though, I got the Air theme from playground
[23:06] <quassel208> Air can you get from playground
[23:06] <Aizawa> I said that
[23:06] <nitr0ix> playground?
[23:06] <Aizawa> yeah
[23:06] <nitr0ix> hmmm gimme link
[23:06] <Aizawa> svn branch or whatever they're called
[23:06] <quassel208> yes there stuff thats fairly new
[23:06] <quassel208>  svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/playground/base/plasma/desktoptheme/air  and then copy air to /home/user/.kde(4)/share/apps/desktoptheme
[23:06] <Aizawa> svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/playground/base/plasma/desktoptheme/air
[23:06] <Aizawa> wops
[23:07] <nitr0ix> forgive me...i am just new to kde xD
[23:08] <quassel208> ive compiled today kde4.3 on jaunty, and overwrited kde4.2.2
[23:08] <slow-motion> hi
[23:08] <nitr0ix> any good?
[23:08] <Aizawa> Ahahahahahahahah! I've been pissed for months because I thought my expensive gaming mouse was starting to get a little iffy, I just tried removing the mouse pad and now it works perfectly. Really weird though.
[23:09] <cinex> laser mice dont do well on a patterned mouse mst
[23:09] <cinex> the picture messes them up
[23:09] <cinex> appaewntly
[23:10] <Aizawa> Also, I tried 4.3 before I formatted, just to try it out. Nothing special, really. The only really attractive thing so far is the Air theme, which works in 4.2
[23:10] <Aizawa> cinex: Oh, then that's the thing.
[23:10] <cinex> but the mouse will eventually ruin the desk
[23:10] <Aizawa> Eh, fuck the desk : P
[23:10] <cinex> hehehe
[23:11] <quassel208> hmmm, I dont know, there are some changes already thats worth to upgrade
[23:11] <Aizawa> Like?
[23:12] <jussi01> !ohmy | Aizawa
[23:12] <quassel208> In konqueror, in dolphin, in kopete, ect
[23:12] <quassel208> so there are changes for sure
[23:12] <Aizawa> People do say qt 4.5 is snappier or whatever, I couldn't really feel the difference.
[23:13] <nitr0ix> any tips on how to get 4.3?
[23:13] <quassel208> yes build dependies with build-dep
[23:13] <quassel208> wait
[23:14] <quassel208> sudo apt-get build-dep kde4libs && sudo apt-get install lzma-dev libfam-dev libaspell-dev subversion && sudo apt-get build-dep kdepimlibs && sudo apt-get remove libakonadi-dev && sudo apt-get build-dep kdebase-runtime kdebase-workspace
[23:14] <quassel208> thats get most of them and then just follow the guide on kde.org
[23:15] <quassel208> http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4
[23:15] <quassel208> oh that what i pasted was what i did in jaunty
[23:16] <Szadek> hello all , i upgraded to jaunty from intrepid , but amarok still is the version 2.0.1 , it shouldnt be 2.0.2?
[23:16] <quassel208> with some help from #kde-devel I have now a succesfull kde trunk
[23:16] <nitr0ix> will try it later..
[23:17] <quassel208> if you understand dutch, then jou can have my notes
[23:17] <nitr0ix> nop thx xD
[23:18] <anoncos> How can I change the appearance of an icon in a panel on 9.04 beta?  I have the file (a .kdb KeePass file) associated with KeePass, and it opens just fine, but the icon is still the default question-mark.
[23:19] <quassel208> lol i dont have a default 9.04 anymore because ive overwrited kde4.2.2, but i havent had any freeze anymore :)
[23:26] <quassel208> !buildsource
[23:26] <erismar> oi
[23:27] <nitr0ix> hmm found a how to for debian and kde4.3 think it will work with ubuntu?
[23:27] <quassel208> dont know
[23:28] <quassel208> on kde,org is a howto for kubuntu and debian
[23:28] <nitr0ix> http://www.unixcod.org/component/option,com_fireboard/Itemid,83/func,view/catid,21/id,88/
[23:28] <nitr0ix> seems preatty straight forward
[23:28] <nitr0ix> just the dependencies took from Gettings started on kde's website
[23:29] <nitr0ix> from techbase*
[23:29] <nitr0ix> aw anyways no reason to sleep this night....time to experiment >_>
[23:30] <quassel208> i did it yesterday
[23:31] <nitr0ix> hmmm how long did it take to compile kde?
[23:31] <quassel208> quite long i bet 7 hours ?
[23:32] <nitr0ix> yay thats long xD
[23:32] <dwidmann> nitr0ix: on my box, compiling kde and all the usual modules, it takes about 3 hours, ish
[23:32] <nitr0ix> what box you have?
[23:32] <quassel208> dwinmann do you do it with a gui? without gui running is faster ?
[23:33] <dwidmann> Intel Q9300, (only) 2GiB of RAM
[23:34] <quassel208> I Intel Atom 330 and 2 gb ram
[23:34] <dwidmann> That would certainly explain a significant difference in how long it would take
[23:35] <dwidmann> When I do it I only let it use 3 of my cores ... so it doesn't make my system "unusable" for hours on end ..
[23:35] <dwidmann> Otherwise it might be a bit less time
[23:38] <quassel208> can you point it cores? ive have 4 cores
[23:38] <quassel208> 2 virtual
[23:39] <Aizawa> What? Virtual cores?
[23:39] <dwidmann> anyway I just cd into each directory and "mkdir build; cd build; time taskset -c 1-3 nice -n +19 /usr/local/bin/cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=debug ..; time taskset -c 1-3 nice -n +19 make -j 4 -s; time taskset -c 1-3 nice -n +19 sudo make install
[23:40] <dwidmann> I have scripts & aliases that take care of this, however
[23:41] <dwidmann> quassel208: use the taskset command to assign cpu affinity
[23:41] <quassel208> taskset ?
[23:41] <bazhang> tasksel
[23:41] <dwidmann> you might have to install it first
[23:41] <dwidmann> bazhang: no. taskseT
[23:41] <bazhang> oops never mind me :)
[23:41] <quassel208> !tasksel
[23:41] <bazhang> misread
[23:42] <dwidmann> sudo apt-get install util-linux
[23:42] <dwidmann> that will get you the taskset command
[23:42] <Aizawa> Is there a way to change the keystroke for bringing up krunner?
[23:43] <quassel208> so how do you use taskset command ?
[23:43] <dwidmann> Aizawa: yeah, go into sysem settings -> keyboard -> global shortcuts, I think
[23:43] <Aizawa> By default it's Alt+F2, which feels awkward.
[23:43] <dwidmann> Yeah, that's it, then you pick the "Run Command Interface" kde component
[23:43] <Aizawa> Yup, found it
[23:43] <Aizawa> Thanks
[23:44] <Aizawa> Man, KDE is the best.
[23:44] <Aizawa> Mischat
[23:44] <Aizawa> Although true
[23:44] <dwidmann> quassel208: man taskset  has some good examples, actually
[23:44] <dwidmann> or did taskset --help
[23:45] <dwidmann> Yeah, the latter (--help)
[23:45] <quassel208> but doesnt it overload the pc ?
[23:50] <quassel208> dwidmann how would i assign 3 of my 4 cores then to the process ?
[23:53] <dwidmann> quassel208: taskset -c 2,3 someprocess
[23:53] <Aizawa> I wish Gnash actually worked.
[23:53] <dwidmann> Aizawa: Yep, that would be nice
[23:53] <dwidmann> quassel208: doesn't what overload the pc?
[23:55] <quassel208> taskset -c 2,3 cmake /home/wesley/KDE/kdelibs -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr
[23:55] <quassel208> like this ?
[23:55] <dwidmann> quassel208: well, cmake certainly won't, you shouldn't be too worried about cmake but make and make install certainly can
[23:55] <quassel208> cmake /home/wesley/KDE/kdelibs -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr
[23:56] <dwidmann> quassel208: look up at the command I typed up a while ago, I had more stuff in there that helps keep the system from choking
[23:56] <quassel208> I should test command what you gaved
[23:56] <dwidmann> namely, nice -n +19
[23:57] <dwidmann> quassel208: no, it's not meant to be copy + pasted, but to serve as a piece of info :)
[23:57] <quassel208> i copy and past every thing i a note
[23:57] <quassel208> that way i dont need to remeber it
[23:58] <dwidmann> I've got a somewhat more intricate setup going on, involving scripts & aliases so I don't have to remember either :)
[23:59] <quassel208> ive nade a text file with everthing i should know, but updating kde doesnt take so long as installing