[00:00] need a way [00:00] i use amarok [00:00] hmm... xfd xditview, xclock, x11perf, x-window-system-core, smproxy, ssesreg, python2.4-tk, python2.4-imaging, python-simpletal, python-egnix-mxproxy, oclock [00:00] Many others [00:00] being removed [00:00] had enough of amarok 2. anyway to install amarok 1 on kde4.2? [00:01] yes, amarok2 sucks [00:01] RizR: Yes look at apt-.pearsoncomputing.net [00:02] apt.pearsoncomputing.net [00:02] guys, is it possible to use portable ubuntu but with kubuntu instead?+ [00:02] Daskreech, :-) their account bandwidth limit has been exceeded. may be will be up in may ;) [00:03] okay I am annoyed at air. [00:03] RizR: ha ok :) [00:03] I tried to install a package named rdiff-backup, but I get this result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/153110/ [00:04] imma annoyed, I dunno what this means... (airinstall:6471): Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libqtcurve.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 [00:04] Replace your elves... [00:04] another one. (may be a dumb question but hey). how do I switch off monitor (just monitor not machine) after a certain time. cant see settings under screensaver [00:04] er wha? >.> [00:04] RizR: it's in 'Display' [00:04] RizR: (assuming you're on KDE) [00:05] (power control) [00:05] because having a standalone Power control would make too much sense [00:05] * p-f twitches [00:06] p-f, err it's got three options. standby, suspend, and power off. [00:06] none says switch off monitor :$ [00:06] RizR: it's power off [00:06] RizR: these are only for the monitor, not your computer [00:06] RizR: completely unintuitive, I know :) [00:07] plus, the "What's this?" don't give any info [00:07] it's great [00:07] p-f, ah well. that's classic kde. got three options for when you only need one saying turn off monitor :-) [00:08] ok another one. [00:09] selecting random screensaver usually makes screensavers switch after few mins in gnome. in kde it starts a screensaver randomly whenever inactive but never switches it to something else. [00:09] makes sense? [00:10] RizR: makes perfect sense [00:11] Is there a way to, within Kubuntu, throttle the bandwidth that Adept is allowed to use? [00:11] p-f, any way to do the switching? [00:12] RizR: I don't think so, maybe you could look into commandline options for xscreensaver / xlock [00:13] dpms can be used to turn monitor off [00:15] xorg.conf SERVERFLAGS SECTION: Option "OffTime" "minutes" [00:15] or use xset [00:16] i have a little problem... when i try ti install or upgrade it's suddenly intrerupting and in terminal when i type dpkg --configure -a it's doing the same thing... === ubuntu is now known as popeye === popeye is now known as popeye42 [00:22] hey all. [00:23] was in here earlier today, but never got an answer... Does anyone else have issues with inline/embedded images in gmail being fuzzy or difficult to read? On my Windows machine, this is not an issue. [00:24] on ubuntuforums, I saw another thread with the same issue, but no solution. someone mentioned that the page may have been zoomed, causing aliasing, but this is not the case :( === k0pp is now known as k0pp_ [00:26] Actually, this goes for all my web-based email accounts - yahoo, hotmail, and gmail... no one else has ever seen this? === k0pp_ is now known as k0pp [00:26] Firefox? [00:27] Daskreech: [00:27] yes [00:27] let me check Opera [00:28] How bad is the fuzzy? [00:29] hey [00:30] can anyone tell me how to compile an apache mod in ubuntu [00:30] Daskreech: it makes barcodes unreadable... :/ [00:30] like.. what compiler do i use [00:30] markjohnson: Which module ? [00:30] i cant get apxs to work [00:30] like, anything [00:30] im writing my own [00:30] !compile [00:31] Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first) [00:31] does this apply to compiling for apache too? [00:31] or just generically? [00:31] ign0ramus: I'm not seeing it look very fuzzy here [00:31] markjohnson: Code is more or less code [00:32] yea.. but doesnt apxs use spcific functions to compile it with apache the correct way? [00:32] Daskreech: opera looks fuzzy, too. maybe a *little* more readable, but if I view the same email in Windows, it's crystal clear [00:32] ign0ramus: Sounds like your video driver [00:32] Daskreech: even if it's *just* for inline images in email? [00:32] markjohnson: long as it has a build script it'll be fine [00:33] hmm [00:33] alright, ill give it a shot then [00:33] thanks [00:33] ign0ramus: to be clear you download the file and it's really clear? [00:33] Daskreech: exactly. yes. [00:34] ign0ramus: Kinda funky [00:34] what version of FF ? [00:34] Daskreech: 3.0.8 [00:36] Hmm not sure what would make the html renderer be strange [00:37] Daskreech: for example, here's an old (expired) coupon from old navy i got: http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6871/59174353.png [00:38] That's it downloaded? [00:38] Daskreech: that's a screenshot from gmail. but if i right-click and save the image, it is clear - like so: http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/3728/19162240.gif [00:38] wow [00:38] Daskreech: big difference, right? [00:38] Yeah [00:39] Daskreech: and its not just me ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823027 [00:39] ign0ramus: Hooray!!! [00:39] Daskreech: yeah, but no solution, so... boooooo! [00:39] Hi I'm ign0ramus and I'm a blurry HTML renderer user [00:40] Daskreech: care to explain...? [00:40] ign0ramus: Support group [00:40] :-) [00:40] Daskreech: yeah, i get that, but do you know how to solve? [00:40] sheesh. ;) [00:41] I wouldn't be dragging this out if I did. I don't know what would make it do that Unless Gmail is trying to save bandwidth costs or something [00:42] It might actually be the video card driver .... [00:42] how to run a 1.mp3 every time at boot up, in amarok? command or method? [00:42] but somehow I doubt it [00:42] Daskreech: onboard Intel that works fine for everything else [00:42] theuser1: at bootup? [00:42] not at login? [00:42] Daskreech: dont know. whenever kde starts [00:43] ign0ramus: Yeah it's a shot in the dark. If there is a bug about it on launchpad vote for it and follow it if not make one [00:43] theuser1: login then [00:43] Daskreech: ok. [00:43] Look in System Settings [00:43] Daskreech: i did a kcron fffor 'a startup' at 'boot up' but it didnt worked [00:44] Daskreech: amarokapp '/home/theuser1/Desktop/ayatul kursi.mp3' [00:44] not worked [00:46] theuser1: can't you just add it into System Notifications to run when KDE starts? [00:46] ign0ramus: how [00:46] i want it to run auto maticaly [00:47] theuser1: im still using kde3.5, but in Kcontrol, just go to sound & multi > system notifications [00:47] ign0ramus: i want it to loop for ever [00:47] theuser1: really? [00:48] theuser1: i'm sure there's a quick and dirty bash script you could run... do you want an external media player to play this file? [00:49] ign0ramus: i wont mind. i just need it to be played. amarok maybe [00:49] theuser1: lemme see... brb [00:49] ok [00:49] !autostart | theuser1 [00:49] theuser1: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. In KDE 3.X the package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory. For a complete KDE 3.X guide, see http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html [00:51] Daskreech: thx [00:54] Daskreech: mplayer has a loop flag... could you whip up a quick script to run mplayer on startup and loop this mp3? [00:54] Could I? No I'm about to step out. Can it be done? Yes.. yes it can [00:55] Daskreech: Understood. I don't feel like going through the man pages for this... a looping song over an entire session? [00:55] it's not that hard just start a mplayer session with a loopflag and background it [00:56] Daskreech: yeah, i'm checking the option flags now.. :/ [00:57] yo yo yo [00:57] yo yo ma [01:02] Is there any way to stop most windows from defauting to open fullscreen? [01:05] CoJaBo-Aztec: i thiink theres a setting in systemsettings about that sort of thing === dgm_ is now known as nitr0ix [01:10] ActionParsnip: Any idea where? I cant find anything about fullscreen in there [01:11] !bug [01:11] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [01:15] is there a kde alterantive for emerald? [01:15] nitr0ix: kwin :) emerald runs with kde fine too. [01:16] Is there any way to fix it? [01:16] does it? heard that emerald not compatible with kwin [01:16] evil internet confuses me >_> [01:18] Any options in Compiz might be doing it?? [01:19] is there any way to find out what caused this: Application crashed with an unhandled SIGSEGV [01:20] nitr0ix: emerald and kwin do the same things. decorate the window borders. if ur not using compiz, ud be better just using kwin themes. but for compiz emerald is best. either way. u can make ur own themes for either. :) [01:20] Ciros: learn c++ probably. strace might help. installing -dbg packages and sending a backtrace to the programmer might help too. [01:21] haha. I hate air -.- [01:22] Ciros: air? the kde4 theme? which theme do you use? [01:22] anyway to make Firefox look more preatty in kde4? [01:22] no, adobe air. am trying to install something via air and that is the error I am getting [01:22] nitr0ix: on jaunty i think it looks perfect. no more oxygen glitches. you can always install firefox themes. add-ons.mozilla.com [01:23] Ciros: ooo, that's adobe's fault then. why do you need air? boycott closed source nonsense! ;p [01:23] because I want to run tweetdeck. I likes it, atleast I got my elf issue fixed on it. [01:24] anyone here experts on how to access files and folders on a mac (iBook) hard drive via ubuntu live CD? my g.friends ibook wont start up normally, so running on live CD, but are not able to get permission to here personal files on the mounted partition from the mac hard drive... help please! [01:24] Mac sux throw it away = problem fixed xd [01:25] haha after getting the files! [01:25] Does anybody know, how I can get my Katapult back in Jaunty? [01:25] esp17: changing perms on a macbook like that can brick the mac. but you can always 'sudo chown myusername:myusername /path/to/dir -R' on it. beware. [01:26] hallowname: im not an expert in this terminal stuff, but i tried some chmod seemingly without result... are not able to get more than "read only file system" [01:26] hmm any details on 9.10 ubuntu? xD [01:27] !koala > nitr0ix [01:27] nitr0ix, please see my private message [01:27] aw i am allready lovin 9.10 >_> === ubuntu is now known as Mircho [01:30] 9.10? [01:30] folders are displayed with a little red cross at the corner, and by doble clicking to open, i get the message "content can not be displayed, you dont have permission necessary..." [01:30] Karmic Koala [01:31] Oh [01:31] Yeah, I started ignoring the names and just using the numbers a couple years ago [01:31] he he [01:32] OliverKrueger- I think katapult has been retired for the standard run dialog (alt-F2 by default) [01:33] so kde uses QT and gnome uses GTK? [01:33] nitr0ix: yup [01:33] hmmm anyway to get Firefox to use QT instead of GTK? [01:34] I vaguely recall someone working on it, but I don't know anything about it [01:35] can any1 tell what difference will it(Firefox with QT) make? [01:35] ah thanks anyways...sad tho... shiny kde4.2 with ugly firefox.... [01:36] It would fit better and probably work nicer on all platforms [01:37] nitr0ix: ugly firefox in 4.2? jaunty or intrepid? jaunty's firefox is very pretty. firefox in too tied in with gtk and its own custom subclasses of gtk classes. =/ [01:37] Daskreech: yea it would. let's go riot at the mozilla office :D [01:37] ok [01:37] :) [01:37] far as I recall they have Qt Firefox project [01:38] Daskreech: yea there is one, but it will take forever. bc firefox was directly subclassed from gtk instead of implementing gtk like most gtk apps do. firefox will b gtk only for a long time i think. [01:39] Yeah [01:39] same reason that Chrome is Gtk [01:39] did chrome got ported to linux? [01:39] nitr0ix: yup [01:40] nitr0ix: halfass ;p [01:40] hmm any good? [01:41] nitr0ix: dunno, i only use qt apps. kde programmer. gtk isnt maintained. like at all. lol. [01:41] he he fair enough...hate gtk now... [01:41] If you search Google for "firefox qt" you'll get a couple hits for people in this channel that have worked on it [01:41] There's even a firefox-qt package in PPA [01:42] Nokia helps port Firefox to Qt xD [01:42] OK. why is Opera not favoured? [01:42] dont like opera ether... [01:42] something wrong with it....it just does not feel right xD [01:42] yea, noble project. takes too long tho. firefox does need a rewrite tho i think. [01:42] hallowname|FFF: Real port? not just a wine wrapper? [01:42] * devilsadvocate wants firefox-qt [01:42] opera is closed source. thats whats wrong with it. [01:42] where where [01:43] Daskreech: yup, gtkish [01:43] Hmm that's interesitng [01:43] Chrome is really really Windows specific [01:43] Daskreech: i seen a deb of it somewhere... the build-log looked horrible tho. [01:43] So is Firefox but Chrome it bleeds into the code [01:44] Daskreech: dunno, dont use either ;p konqueror elinks and arora for me. if all else fails: kget. ;D [01:44] w3m [01:44] Dragnslcr, where is the ppa with firefox-qt [01:45] Daskreech: i liked that one. but only if i had a mouse and no keyboard. the key interaction with w3m is funny i think... [01:45] devilsadvocate- looks like it's http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu [01:45] w3m is way tooo hard-core for me [01:45] I'm getting lots of updates recently :) [01:45] rmrfslash: Jaunty? [01:45] nitr0ix: elinks :) simple and easy. so is w3m but u gotta read the manuals. [01:45] w3m is pretty neat [01:45] jaunty [01:46] I just need to figure out how to pipe aa through it [01:46] rmrfslash: Expect that [01:46] you will pull down tens of gigs of data in the early part of kubuntu+1 [01:46] ill stick with konqueror.... dont like text based ones >_> [01:46] Daskreech: haha aa? havent used that since i was 13 maybe :D good times [01:46] it slows down a lot once it releases [01:46] DaSkreech: wasn't there lynx for a long time? curl? wget? How's w3m different [01:47] hallowname|FFF: It's great. I can watch DVDs on the command line with it [01:47] links lynx and w3m [01:47] command line dvd...whoah you mean like numbers and text replaces image? [01:47] (o_O) [01:47] matrix style sh*t [01:48] lol [01:48] Daskreech: yup :D i used to have an interactive cli computer with it. using screen and custom tweaking. lol. good times [01:48] aafire! woot! [01:48] rmrfslash: Funny enough last DVD I watched lke that was Matrix [01:48] trippy :) [01:48] !info bb [01:48] bb (source: bb): ASCII-art demo based on AAlib. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3rc1-8 (intrepid), package size 1168 kB, installed size 1832 kB [01:49] !info aafire [01:49] Package aafire does not exist in intrepid [01:49] :-P [01:49] !matrix [01:49] Sorry, I don't know anything about matrix [01:49] now kde is more graphically customizable than cli. [01:49] dang [01:49] matrix owns you [01:49] !pwn [01:49] Sorry, I don't know anything about pwn [01:49] !botabuse > rmrfslash [01:49] what do you know ubottu? [01:49] rmrfslash, please see my private message [01:49] !own? [01:49] Sorry, I don't know anything about own? [01:50] anyone here tried openbrain? [01:50] !iNoob [01:50] Sorry, I don't know anything about iNoob [01:50] nitr0ix: please do not abuse the bot [01:50] what's ipenbrain? [01:50] lol this is fun .... [01:50] Dragnslcr, is the package there only for jaunty? i have the ppa enabled but i dont see firefox-qt [01:50] rmrfslash: a desktop assistant plasmoid. talks english to u. [01:51] cool [01:51] devilsadvocate- it might not be there anymore. I just looked through it and it doesn't seem to be there [01:51] i guess [01:51] devilsadvocate- I was just going by a post from August, so it have gotten pulled since then [01:52] rmrfslash: its on kde-apps.org if u wanna try. there are debs somewhere. it can 'google urmoms' and answer 'what time is it' 'what month is it'. 'wiki urmomz' 'run firefox' etc etc [02:00] I don't really wanna have my computer talk to me. [02:01] So I can say run firefox and it'll run? [02:02] sooo can anybody explain me what is kwin? cause i thought it was used when you enable desktop effect in kde.. [02:03] !info kwin [02:03] kwin (source: kdebase-workspace): the KDE 4 window manager (KWin). In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid3.1 (intrepid), package size 38 kB, installed size 304 kB [02:03] nitr0ix: It's your window manager by default in KDE [02:03] I think kwin is the new kwm right? [02:03] It's not new [02:03] well... it used to be called kwm [02:03] yeah but i just did sudo apt-get install kwin and it did install it like it wasnt in there [02:03] rmrfslash: when? not in KDE3 [02:03] and in many cases, some of the errors still report it as kwm [02:04] nitr0ix: kwin is a transitional package for kde-window-manager [02:04] ok [02:04] no, not in kde3 [02:04] I think kwm stopped after KDE 1 [02:05] but there's some legacy code in there which still refers to it as kwm [02:05] yeah, some constants and X11 interfaces [02:05] so i still can't use emerald with kwin cause if i do apt-get it will install compiz with it.. [02:06] emerald is a compiz theme isn't it? [02:06] emerald is a compiz window decorator [02:06] so you need compiz [02:06] any alternative for kde/ [02:06] ? [02:06] install a KDE theme [02:06] kde has it's own compositing [02:06] i mean for emerald. [02:06] no clue [02:06] aw [02:07] emerald just themes compizz [02:07] I just know KDE compositing is more integrated w/ KDE [02:07] kde has it's own theme system [02:07] !info emerald [02:07] emerald (source: emerald): Decorator for compiz-fusion. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.2-0ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 255 kB, installed size 1380 kB [02:07] rmrfslash: yup. it does way more than that tho. [02:07] hmmm DeKorator seems something like emerald. [02:08] !info kwin-style-dekorator [02:08] kwin-style-dekorator (source: kwin-style-dekorator): windows decoration for kde using user-supplied PNG files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1 (intrepid), package size 173 kB, installed size 420 kB [02:08] Some of the effects aren't as good as in compiz though [02:08] some don't work at all (at least for me) [02:09] and some just downright crash my machine [02:09] like the "snow" effect [02:09] I tried launching that one and my machine just crashed [02:10] aw found it.... Translucency seems to do the trick... [02:10] my wobbly windows effect looks all weird too [02:10] I'm using XRender... not sure if that's why [02:11] nitri0ix: what, did you want translucent konsole? [02:11] nah transparent window decorations.. [02:11] oh [02:11] thats why i wanted emerald ;) [02:11] translucent window borders? [02:12] translucent this word freaks me out [02:12] transparent...yeah.. [02:13] hey, why don't I have translucent window borders :( [02:13] you are the lucky one xD [02:14] bummer [02:14] what kde version you have? [02:14] jaunty [02:14] 4.2.2 [02:14] same here...works perfectly [02:15] I'm using XRender compositing [02:15] probably limited capabilities [02:15] oh, and the open source ATI driver [02:15] why not use OpenGL? [02:15] ah [02:15] nvidia rox >_> [02:16] for now ;) [02:16] for always ;) [02:18] http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonhd [02:18] damnit....i've been planing to start playing eve for past couple months...but i didnt know they ended up linux support.... [02:19] tho you still can get deb package on their page if you use mighty google... [02:22] got a question :D why can i listen to any kind of audio file, MP3 etc, but i cannot get audio on ANY video file, AVI, MP4, etc [02:22] i even installed the restricted extras [02:23] go to kmix [02:23] turn your pcm all the way up [02:23] or do it via alsamixer [02:23] that helped me xD === mogul218 is now known as mogul218- [02:27] nitr0ix, will try that [02:27] another question, in the mean time, how do i turn my numberpad on?! numlock doesn't let me use the buttons [02:28] had a problem with numlock once...turning it on actually meant turning num off....i think it was debian >_> [02:28] neither on nor off work [02:29] kmix didn't work :( [02:30] http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=num+lock+does+not+work+ubuntu&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq= [02:30] xD [02:32] hmmm trying doing it with alsamixer just turn every thing up to 100 see if it works [02:32] try* === maximo is now known as Nasra [02:33] working on it now :D thanks [02:35] System > Preferences > Keyboard [02:35] Under the "Mouse Keys" tab uncheck "Allow to control the pointer using the keyboard" [02:35] :D === magtorre is now known as magtorre_ [02:35] now, onto sound [02:35] did it work? xD [02:37] even the colours are all crazy... skin is blue and so forth [02:38] installed libxine1-ffmpeg ? [02:38] lol what did you smoke? i want some xD [02:39] dask, checking now [02:39] it's not in add/remove, how would i install that? [02:41] sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg [02:41] lorecaster do you have multiverse enabled? [02:41] how would i check that? :$ sorry, very green [02:42] been an M$ tech for YEARS, but this linux system is amazingly different [02:43] he he [02:44] it's wicked-awesome, dispite some minor user-related shortcomings... [02:44] lorecaster: look in /etc/apt/sources.list [02:45] i see nothing of that nature... don't see "multiverse" anywhere in the software sources area [02:45] lorecaster: by uncommenting /etc/apt/sources.list or graphically in adept by Sources > Edit Software Sources [02:46] do you mean the restricted extras? [02:46] i have that, and the Gstreamer plugins installed [02:46] software restrcited by copyright or legal issues (multiverse) is checked [02:47] lorecaster: it's as simple as adding the word "multiverse" to the lines that end with "main restricted" [02:47] so how long did the piratebay owners get? [02:49] nitr0ix: one year and over $3 million US in fines [02:49] See: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/pirate-bay-4-guilty [02:49] hah [02:49] sad tho [02:49] Yes, in a way [02:49] so how do you want me to go about this? to edit the sources.list file? [02:49] !multiverse [02:49] The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [02:50] thanks so much [02:50] i'm using Ubunto 8.1 though [02:50] all the same beast, yeah? [02:51] yeah its all the same [02:52] what happened with pirate bay? [02:53] in-a-nutshell? [02:53] nothing yet [02:53] well [02:53] the owner got in prison but thats it xD [02:54] owners* [02:54] the links above are only for KDE... (go figure) i'm running gnome [02:54] ubuntu - gnome kubuntu - kde xubuntu - xfce [02:55] same structure but different desktop envoirment [02:55] different enough to throw me sometimes [02:55] i've also got a wicked headcold, and am on some happy pills... bear with me :P [02:55] ha ha [02:56] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources my settings are identical to this [02:56] its like Windows with explorer...and windows with aston shell [02:56] just different gui [02:57] he hey i got an idea...lets sue google for piracy.. [02:57] they have more money than god... no one'll sue them. [02:57]