/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/04/19/#kubuntu-devel.txt

* ScottK is trying a 8.04 to 9.04 upgrade.00:27
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* Tonio_ packages pardus tools....00:59
ScottK8.04 -> 9.04 went just fine.  I few conflicts/replaces we could add, but update-manager plows right through those.01:30
ScottKRiddell: ^^ good news.01:30
vorianyo01:43
* vorian is tres tired01:43
ScottKyo vorian01:44
voriananything need doing?01:44
ScottKI think we're in pretty good shape.01:45
vorianexcellent!01:45
slangasekJontheEchidna: I find a disconnect between the fact that you've triaged bug #359008 as low and that you've uploaded it to the queue for jaunty. :)01:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 359008 in ktorrent "Crash with SIGABRT after marking 26 upload torrents and clicking "Start"" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35900801:46
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kb9vqfRiddell: I have the KDE3 release candidate out, finally...could you announce this on the news page again? :-)03:59
kb9vqfRiddell: I also updated the wiki page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty with the new screenshots and download links04:01
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kb9vqfare there any restrictions on who can download Kubuntu (i.e. do I need to deny access to North Korea, Iran, etc.)?  I am in North America and don't want to get in any trouble ;)05:18
ScottKThere are not.05:19
ScottKIf there were, it wouldn't be Free Software.05:19
ScottKThere may be restrictions on if people are allowed to download it, but that's not your problem.05:19
kb9vqfOK, just didn't want any trouble from the government, since I am potentially distributing these ISOs to those countries05:21
kb9vqfThanks05:21
ScottKIt's all legally distributable.05:22
kb9vqfGood to know; puts my mind back at ease ;)05:24
ScottK-laptopThis is a test notification from Quassel05:26
ScottK-laptopScottK: This is a test notification from Quassel05:27
ScottKI think I got it that time.05:28
kb9vqfIs riddell the only one with write access to the kubuntu.org news page?05:32
ScottKNo.  A few others do too.05:37
ScottKryanakca does.05:37
kb9vqfryanakca: I finally have the KDE3 release candidate out...could you announce this on the news page? :-)05:38
* kb9vqf notes over 800 people downloaded the KDE3 beta so far...05:39
LureTonio_: I think kdenlive should Recommend frei0r-plugins08:43
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LureRiddell: around?11:46
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quassel208guys do you know how to solve it why kde apps dont accept my sudo password? ive compiled kde trunk12:17
LureRiddell, Tonio_: Steve rejected bug 358576: I do not see how to easily backport the fixes, so it looks like we will have crashing KDE photo apps with various PNG/TIFF/RAW files :-(12:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 358576 in exiv2 "exiv2 version 0.18 crashes / also crashes digikam / fixed in 0.18.1" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35857612:17
LureI rest my case for now and leave it to one of you to drive this further if you have energy and hope for this12:18
a|wenLure: it looks like we want http://dev.exiv2.org/repositories/revision/exiv2/1743 ... and maybe http://dev.exiv2.org/repositories/revision/exiv2/176312:31
a|wenLure: the first one is definitely the crash in that bug; the second one is a .png crash fix as well12:31
quassel208how long keeps sudo active 10 min ?12:42
Tonio_Lure: hum....13:44
Tonio_Lure: reason of the reject ?13:44
Tonio_Lure: too close to the release....13:46
Tonio_Lure: I'll prepare a SRU today, that's the best we can do now13:46
Tonio_quassel208_: it's 15 by default for sudo14:02
quassel208_oh okay14:07
Lurea|wen: if you have time to backport fixes, please do - I do not have much time today/tommorow, so no way to get it by Monday that Steve expects14:31
a|wenTonio_: do we want to go the SRU way ... or should we try to cherry-pick the fix in upstream svn?15:14
Tonio_a|wen: I suspect Lure did :)15:14
Tonio_a|wen: so I believe it's not easy !15:15
* a|wen gives it a try15:15
Tonio_a|wen: feel free ;)15:16
a|wenTonio_: do we want to fix only that particular crash; or do we want to fix another png-file crash while at it? (the png-file fix is simply a check to not read from an empty buffer)15:20
Tonio_probably both I'd say...15:20
a|wenokay ... on it15:21
a|wenTonio_ / Lure: Building in my PPA, please help test it https://launchpad.net/~andreas-wenning/+archive/experimental15:38
Tonio_a|wen: wow that fast ? :)15:38
Tonio_interesting !!15:38
Tonio_slangasek: about exiv2, would a last upload including just the svn fix be approvable ?15:38
ScottKTonio_: a|wen is ace at cherrypicking upstream svn's.15:38
a|wenTonio_: cherry-picking is my special ;)15:39
Tonio_ScottK: :) nice to see that !15:39
a|wenanybody still has an example picture that provokes the crash around? ... the link in the bug gives me "connection refused"15:42
a|wenLure / Tonio_: ^^ ?15:55
a|wennever mind... link works now :)16:02
a|wenTonio_ / ScottK: the new exiv2 is verified to not crash on any of the images attached to the two crash-bugs that we are trying to fix; and a tour around with gwenview in my different image folders also works w/o any problems16:13
ScottKTonio_: I'd upload it with an explaination in the bug that this is a new, more minimal fix than before.16:13
a|wendebdiff is here: http://awen.dk/packages/exiv2_0.18-1ubuntu1.debdiff16:16
a|wenI've improved the changelog a bit in it16:16
Tonio_a|wen: uploaded... we'll see how slangasek considers this, he'll probably read our output here...16:26
a|wenTonio_: okay ... you took the debdiff with improved changelog?16:26
Tonio_a|wen: yes17:04
a|wenTonio_: cool :)17:05
ryanakcakb9vqf: Sure, I'm heading out for a few hours, but I'll get it up when I get back17:29
apachelogger_whom may I poke in the eye?17:54
apachelogger_JontheEchidna: ?17:56
JontheEchidnax_o17:56
apachelogger_hooray17:56
JontheEchidnahi17:56
apachelogger_good day17:56
apachelogger_JontheEchidna: bug 34020617:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 340206 in kdebase-workspace "~/screen-configurations.xml file after kubuntu install" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34020617:56
apachelogger_this magic file is created by kephal17:57
JontheEchidnaok, so it is an upstream bug?17:57
apachelogger_this magic file is soooo an incredibly stupid bug I almost had to smile despite the fact I don't feel like that today17:57
JontheEchidnaheh17:57
apachelogger_so, please direct your attention on exhibit A17:58
apachelogger_http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/libs/kephal/configurations/xml/xmlconfigurations.cpp?view=markup17:58
apachelogger_there we find17:58
apachelogger_        QDir dir = QDir::home();17:58
apachelogger_        dir.cd(".local");17:58
apachelogger_        m_configPath = dir.filePath("screen-configurations.xml");17:58
apachelogger_now ... exhibit B: run cd .foobar123 in a shell ... what does happen?17:58
* JontheEchidna facepalms17:59
apachelogger_so, why in gods name would Qt do anything different if there is no .local :P17:59
JontheEchidnaoh by the way. Have you had a chance to see how German is looking after the latest langpack updates?18:00
JontheEchidnaSpanish is looking pretty good18:00
apachelogger_gui is translated again18:00
apachelogger_desktop files are not18:00
apachelogger_re-updating18:00
JontheEchidnaThe spanish translation dudes even translated all of plasma-widget-quickaccess in a week18:01
apachelogger_good thing is there are no german translation dudes that do KDE18:01
JontheEchidna(It didn't have a Messages.sh unti one week before langpack freeze)18:01
JontheEchidnaUnfortunately plasma-widget-quickaccess only got fully translated in 5 languages :(18:02
JontheEchidnaand 66% there in Chinese18:02
apachelogger_hm18:02
apachelogger_you know18:02
apachelogger_how can that happen?18:03
* apachelogger_ thinks that the KC should enforce localization upon every kubuntu member in order to find those issues18:03
JontheEchidnaLooking back I don't know how that passed main inclusion since it didn't extract and messages18:03
JontheEchidnamaybe because the MIR dudes aren't familiar with KDE translation stuff?18:03
apachelogger_well18:04
apachelogger_the result is the same no matter what18:04
apachelogger_either it spits out pots or it does not18:04
JontheEchidnatrue18:04
apachelogger_anyway18:04
apachelogger_JontheEchidna: you go fix that kephal bug18:04
JontheEchidnawould they accept a fix for that this late into final freeze?18:05
apachelogger_either make .local part of /etc/skel or add a simple if to the code18:05
apachelogger_JontheEchidna: if they are not I am so going to do nasty things18:05
apachelogger_my mother almost got bugged insane by that file until I told here that it's not supposed to be there to begin with18:06
apachelogger_somehow she had the idea that something needs to be changed there, since it was so in-your-face visible :P18:06
JontheEchidnaoh geez18:08
JontheEchidnaamarok builds don't fail when patches fail to apply18:08
* JontheEchidna counts two patches that fail to apply in the official buildd buildlog18:08
seeleScottK: were there follow-on threads to notification priorities message? i can't figure out how to use the mailing list archive interface18:09
ScottKseele: No replies that I've seen.18:09
JontheEchidnabbiab18:10
ScottKseele: Did you see my blog post?18:10
seelei saw your name, i havent read it yet18:10
seelei assume it is about notifications :)18:10
ScottKYes.  It's about how pleased I am with notifications in KDE 4.2.18:11
seeleare you on the plasma mailing list? they are going to make a lot more improvements in 4.3 as well18:18
JontheEchidnaI'm on the plasma mailing list (I'm also somewhat of an upstream dev)18:36
JontheEchidnain that I develop the weather wallpaper plugin, and have contributed a few patches to some other applets18:38
jussi01Tonio_: you around=?18:46
kb9vqfryanakca: Sounds good; will look for it soon! :-)19:16
Riddelldoods19:53
* jussi01 waves to Riddell20:04
Riddellhow was the weekend?20:05
jussi01Riddell: ok I guess - Im in Liverpool20:06
jussi01Riddell: and yours?20:06
apachelogger_JontheEchidna: systemsettings is still talking english with latest updates20:08
Riddelljussi01: not bad, I went to see some slalom20:12
Riddelljussi01: what's in Liverpool?20:12
jussi01Riddell: Launch of our newest product :)20:12
jussi01which happens to have linux as part of it... :D20:13
Riddellapachelogger_: what should it talk?20:13
apachelogger_Riddell: german in my case :)20:13
a|wenapachelogger_: mine talked danish a few days ago20:14
* a|wen goes checking again20:14
Riddellgerman is fine, I've checked it20:14
apachelogger_no worky here20:15
a|wenlooks to be ~95% danish for me20:15
* seele would throw openoffice out the window if it wasnt magnetically inscribed into her laptop20:15
apachelogger_Riddell: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/snapshot032.png20:16
Riddellapachelogger_: pastebin me apt-cache policy language-pack-de language-pack-de-base language-pack-kde-de language-pack-kde-de-base kdelibs520:17
apachelogger_.!!!~~~~>Bat paste: pasted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/154261/20:18
Riddellapachelogger_: grep Language /home/jr/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals  ?20:21
apachelogger_Riddell: that value is not set in a default install20:21
Riddellapachelogger_: iz bug 36222920:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 362229 in language-pack-kde-fr "Kubuntu language packs miss .desktop translations" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36222920:24
apachelogger_Oo20:25
apachelogger_like20:25
apachelogger_are you serious?20:25
apachelogger_updates?20:25
Riddellmmm20:25
Riddellmm20:25
apachelogger_I'd rather go with: build-conflict the mangler and reupload all of KDE in main20:25
Riddellbit late for that I'm afraid20:26
apachelogger_that state of localization is unacceptable ... not again anyway20:26
Riddellbest shot would be to add the translations manually to the language-pack packages20:27
apachelogger_Riddell: Kubuntu should be released later then, or at least the shipit cds should be using an image with sensible localization20:27
MamarokI know at least a few German speaking folk that will want to kill the Kubuntu devs...20:31
RiddellI can't think of a reason not to just add them manually so let's see what happens if i try20:31
MamarokRiddell: yes, please, do!20:32
apachelogger_\o/20:32
apachelogger_+120:32
Riddellyep, that sorts it20:39
Riddellhead cold is making this a bit slow but let's see if I can script the rest of the leids20:40
kb9vqfryanakca: Any update on the news page?21:25
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ryanakcakb9vqf: No, sorry, just got back from band practice. Do you have the blurb for me to stick up?22:01
Riddellryanakca: you can probably copy the previous one and change the version22:02
ryanakcanixternal: Back, how did help.kubuntu.org go? Anything left to do?22:02
Riddellsorry I failed to get to it too, this cold is making multitasking not work22:02
ryanakcaRiddell: Hehe, everybody is getting colds nowadays. I'll get to it.22:03
* kb9vqf holds his breath ;)22:08
kb9vqfbeen able to avoid the flu thus far...22:09
kb9vqfryanakca: If you can just copy the previous blurb and change "beta" to "release candidate" it'd be fine--I just want to let people know that I finally got the RC out22:09
a|wenyay; fix for bug 358576 accepted22:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 358576 in exiv2 "exiv2 version 0.18 crashes / also crashes digikam / fixed in 0.18.1" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35857622:45
a|wenthat must be my finished for today call ... night everyone22:46
ryanakcakb9vqf: Done... if you have anything else, just poke me23:07
kb9vqfryanakca: Looks good...thanks!23:44

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