[00:27]  * ScottK is trying a 8.04 to 9.04 upgrade.
[00:59]  * Tonio_ packages pardus tools....
[01:30] <ScottK> 8.04 -> 9.04 went just fine.  I few conflicts/replaces we could add, but update-manager plows right through those.
[01:30] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^ good news.
[01:43] <vorian> yo
[01:43]  * vorian is tres tired
[01:44] <ScottK> yo vorian
[01:44] <vorian> anything need doing?
[01:45] <ScottK> I think we're in pretty good shape.
[01:45] <vorian> excellent!
[01:46] <slangasek> JontheEchidna: I find a disconnect between the fact that you've triaged bug #359008 as low and that you've uploaded it to the queue for jaunty. :)
[03:59] <kb9vqf> Riddell: I have the KDE3 release candidate out, finally...could you announce this on the news page again? :-)
[04:01] <kb9vqf> Riddell: I also updated the wiki page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty with the new screenshots and download links
[05:18] <kb9vqf> are there any restrictions on who can download Kubuntu (i.e. do I need to deny access to North Korea, Iran, etc.)?  I am in North America and don't want to get in any trouble ;)
[05:19] <ScottK> There are not.
[05:19] <ScottK> If there were, it wouldn't be Free Software.
[05:19] <ScottK> There may be restrictions on if people are allowed to download it, but that's not your problem.
[05:21] <kb9vqf> OK, just didn't want any trouble from the government, since I am potentially distributing these ISOs to those countries
[05:21] <kb9vqf> Thanks
[05:22] <ScottK> It's all legally distributable.
[05:24] <kb9vqf> Good to know; puts my mind back at ease ;)
[05:26] <ScottK-laptop> This is a test notification from Quassel
[05:27] <ScottK-laptop> ScottK: This is a test notification from Quassel
[05:28] <ScottK> I think I got it that time.
[05:32] <kb9vqf> Is riddell the only one with write access to the kubuntu.org news page?
[05:37] <ScottK> No.  A few others do too.
[05:37] <ScottK> ryanakca does.
[05:38] <kb9vqf> ryanakca: I finally have the KDE3 release candidate out...could you announce this on the news page? :-)
[05:39]  * kb9vqf notes over 800 people downloaded the KDE3 beta so far...
[08:43] <Lure> Tonio_: I think kdenlive should Recommend frei0r-plugins
[11:46] <Lure> Riddell: around?
[12:17] <quassel208> guys do you know how to solve it why kde apps dont accept my sudo password? ive compiled kde trunk
[12:17] <Lure> Riddell, Tonio_: Steve rejected bug 358576: I do not see how to easily backport the fixes, so it looks like we will have crashing KDE photo apps with various PNG/TIFF/RAW files :-(
[12:18] <Lure> I rest my case for now and leave it to one of you to drive this further if you have energy and hope for this
[12:31] <a|wen> Lure: it looks like we want http://dev.exiv2.org/repositories/revision/exiv2/1743 ... and maybe http://dev.exiv2.org/repositories/revision/exiv2/1763
[12:31] <a|wen> Lure: the first one is definitely the crash in that bug; the second one is a .png crash fix as well
[12:42] <quassel208> how long keeps sudo active 10 min ?
[13:44] <Tonio_> Lure: hum....
[13:44] <Tonio_> Lure: reason of the reject ?
[13:46] <Tonio_> Lure: too close to the release....
[13:46] <Tonio_> Lure: I'll prepare a SRU today, that's the best we can do now
[14:02] <Tonio_> quassel208_: it's 15 by default for sudo
[14:07] <quassel208_> oh okay
[14:31] <Lure> a|wen: if you have time to backport fixes, please do - I do not have much time today/tommorow, so no way to get it by Monday that Steve expects
[15:14] <a|wen> Tonio_: do we want to go the SRU way ... or should we try to cherry-pick the fix in upstream svn?
[15:14] <Tonio_> a|wen: I suspect Lure did :)
[15:15] <Tonio_> a|wen: so I believe it's not easy !
[15:15]  * a|wen gives it a try
[15:16] <Tonio_> a|wen: feel free ;)
[15:20] <a|wen> Tonio_: do we want to fix only that particular crash; or do we want to fix another png-file crash while at it? (the png-file fix is simply a check to not read from an empty buffer)
[15:20] <Tonio_> probably both I'd say...
[15:21] <a|wen> okay ... on it
[15:38] <a|wen> Tonio_ / Lure: Building in my PPA, please help test it https://launchpad.net/~andreas-wenning/+archive/experimental
[15:38] <Tonio_> a|wen: wow that fast ? :)
[15:38] <Tonio_> interesting !!
[15:38] <Tonio_> slangasek: about exiv2, would a last upload including just the svn fix be approvable ?
[15:38] <ScottK> Tonio_: a|wen is ace at cherrypicking upstream svn's.
[15:39] <a|wen> Tonio_: cherry-picking is my special ;)
[15:39] <Tonio_> ScottK: :) nice to see that !
[15:42] <a|wen> anybody still has an example picture that provokes the crash around? ... the link in the bug gives me "connection refused"
[15:55] <a|wen> Lure / Tonio_: ^^ ?
[16:02] <a|wen> never mind... link works now :)
[16:13] <a|wen> Tonio_ / ScottK: the new exiv2 is verified to not crash on any of the images attached to the two crash-bugs that we are trying to fix; and a tour around with gwenview in my different image folders also works w/o any problems
[16:13] <ScottK> Tonio_: I'd upload it with an explaination in the bug that this is a new, more minimal fix than before.
[16:16] <a|wen> debdiff is here: http://awen.dk/packages/exiv2_0.18-1ubuntu1.debdiff
[16:16] <a|wen> I've improved the changelog a bit in it
[16:26] <Tonio_> a|wen: uploaded... we'll see how slangasek considers this, he'll probably read our output here...
[16:26] <a|wen> Tonio_: okay ... you took the debdiff with improved changelog?
[17:04] <Tonio_> a|wen: yes
[17:05] <a|wen> Tonio_: cool :)
[17:29] <ryanakca> kb9vqf: Sure, I'm heading out for a few hours, but I'll get it up when I get back
[17:54] <apachelogger_> whom may I poke in the eye?
[17:56] <apachelogger_> JontheEchidna: ?
[17:56] <JontheEchidna> x_o
[17:56] <apachelogger_> hooray
[17:56] <JontheEchidna> hi
[17:56] <apachelogger_> good day
[17:56] <apachelogger_> JontheEchidna: bug 340206
[17:57] <apachelogger_> this magic file is created by kephal
[17:57] <JontheEchidna> ok, so it is an upstream bug?
[17:57] <apachelogger_> this magic file is soooo an incredibly stupid bug I almost had to smile despite the fact I don't feel like that today
[17:57] <JontheEchidna> heh
[17:58] <apachelogger_> so, please direct your attention on exhibit A
[17:58] <apachelogger_> http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/libs/kephal/configurations/xml/xmlconfigurations.cpp?view=markup
[17:58] <apachelogger_> there we find
[17:58] <apachelogger_>         QDir dir = QDir::home();
[17:58] <apachelogger_>         dir.cd(".local");
[17:58] <apachelogger_>         m_configPath = dir.filePath("screen-configurations.xml");
[17:58] <apachelogger_> now ... exhibit B: run cd .foobar123 in a shell ... what does happen?
[17:59]  * JontheEchidna facepalms
[17:59] <apachelogger_> so, why in gods name would Qt do anything different if there is no .local :P
[18:00] <JontheEchidna> oh by the way. Have you had a chance to see how German is looking after the latest langpack updates?
[18:00] <JontheEchidna> Spanish is looking pretty good
[18:00] <apachelogger_> gui is translated again
[18:00] <apachelogger_> desktop files are not
[18:00] <apachelogger_> re-updating
[18:01] <JontheEchidna> The spanish translation dudes even translated all of plasma-widget-quickaccess in a week
[18:01] <apachelogger_> good thing is there are no german translation dudes that do KDE
[18:01] <JontheEchidna> (It didn't have a Messages.sh unti one week before langpack freeze)
[18:02] <JontheEchidna> Unfortunately plasma-widget-quickaccess only got fully translated in 5 languages :(
[18:02] <JontheEchidna> and 66% there in Chinese
[18:02] <apachelogger_> hm
[18:02] <apachelogger_> you know
[18:03] <apachelogger_> how can that happen?
[18:03]  * apachelogger_ thinks that the KC should enforce localization upon every kubuntu member in order to find those issues
[18:03] <JontheEchidna> Looking back I don't know how that passed main inclusion since it didn't extract and messages
[18:03] <JontheEchidna> maybe because the MIR dudes aren't familiar with KDE translation stuff?
[18:04] <apachelogger_> well
[18:04] <apachelogger_> the result is the same no matter what
[18:04] <apachelogger_> either it spits out pots or it does not
[18:04] <JontheEchidna> true
[18:04] <apachelogger_> anyway
[18:04] <apachelogger_> JontheEchidna: you go fix that kephal bug
[18:05] <JontheEchidna> would they accept a fix for that this late into final freeze?
[18:05] <apachelogger_> either make .local part of /etc/skel or add a simple if to the code
[18:05] <apachelogger_> JontheEchidna: if they are not I am so going to do nasty things
[18:06] <apachelogger_> my mother almost got bugged insane by that file until I told here that it's not supposed to be there to begin with
[18:06] <apachelogger_> somehow she had the idea that something needs to be changed there, since it was so in-your-face visible :P
[18:08] <JontheEchidna> oh geez
[18:08] <JontheEchidna> amarok builds don't fail when patches fail to apply
[18:08]  * JontheEchidna counts two patches that fail to apply in the official buildd buildlog
[18:09] <seele> ScottK: were there follow-on threads to notification priorities message? i can't figure out how to use the mailing list archive interface
[18:09] <ScottK> seele: No replies that I've seen.
[18:10] <JontheEchidna> bbiab
[18:10] <ScottK> seele: Did you see my blog post?
[18:10] <seele> i saw your name, i havent read it yet
[18:10] <seele> i assume it is about notifications :)
[18:11] <ScottK> Yes.  It's about how pleased I am with notifications in KDE 4.2.
[18:18] <seele> are you on the plasma mailing list? they are going to make a lot more improvements in 4.3 as well
[18:36] <JontheEchidna> I'm on the plasma mailing list (I'm also somewhat of an upstream dev)
[18:38] <JontheEchidna> in that I develop the weather wallpaper plugin, and have contributed a few patches to some other applets
[18:46] <jussi01> Tonio_: you around=?
[19:16] <kb9vqf> ryanakca: Sounds good; will look for it soon! :-)
[19:53] <Riddell> doods
[20:04]  * jussi01 waves to Riddell
[20:05] <Riddell> how was the weekend?
[20:06] <jussi01> Riddell: ok I guess - Im in Liverpool
[20:06] <jussi01> Riddell: and yours?
[20:08] <apachelogger_> JontheEchidna: systemsettings is still talking english with latest updates
[20:12] <Riddell> jussi01: not bad, I went to see some slalom
[20:12] <Riddell> jussi01: what's in Liverpool?
[20:12] <jussi01> Riddell: Launch of our newest product :)
[20:13] <jussi01> which happens to have linux as part of it... :D
[20:13] <Riddell> apachelogger_: what should it talk?
[20:13] <apachelogger_> Riddell: german in my case :)
[20:14] <a|wen> apachelogger_: mine talked danish a few days ago
[20:14]  * a|wen goes checking again
[20:14] <Riddell> german is fine, I've checked it
[20:15] <apachelogger_> no worky here
[20:15] <a|wen> looks to be ~95% danish for me
[20:15]  * seele would throw openoffice out the window if it wasnt magnetically inscribed into her laptop
[20:16] <apachelogger_> Riddell: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/snapshot032.png
[20:17] <Riddell> apachelogger_: pastebin me apt-cache policy language-pack-de language-pack-de-base language-pack-kde-de language-pack-kde-de-base kdelibs5
[20:18] <apachelogger_> .!!!~~~~>Bat paste: pasted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/154261/
[20:21] <Riddell> apachelogger_: grep Language /home/jr/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals  ?
[20:21] <apachelogger_> Riddell: that value is not set in a default install
[20:24] <Riddell> apachelogger_: iz bug 362229
[20:25] <apachelogger_> Oo
[20:25] <apachelogger_> like
[20:25] <apachelogger_> are you serious?
[20:25] <apachelogger_> updates?
[20:25] <Riddell> mmm
[20:25] <Riddell> mm
[20:25] <apachelogger_> I'd rather go with: build-conflict the mangler and reupload all of KDE in main
[20:26] <Riddell> bit late for that I'm afraid
[20:26] <apachelogger_> that state of localization is unacceptable ... not again anyway
[20:27] <Riddell> best shot would be to add the translations manually to the language-pack packages
[20:27] <apachelogger_> Riddell: Kubuntu should be released later then, or at least the shipit cds should be using an image with sensible localization
[20:31] <Mamarok> I know at least a few German speaking folk that will want to kill the Kubuntu devs...
[20:31] <Riddell> I can't think of a reason not to just add them manually so let's see what happens if i try
[20:32] <Mamarok> Riddell: yes, please, do!
[20:32] <apachelogger_> \o/
[20:32] <apachelogger_> +1
[20:39] <Riddell> yep, that sorts it
[20:40] <Riddell> head cold is making this a bit slow but let's see if I can script the rest of the leids
[21:25] <kb9vqf> ryanakca: Any update on the news page?
[22:01] <ryanakca> kb9vqf: No, sorry, just got back from band practice. Do you have the blurb for me to stick up?
[22:02] <Riddell> ryanakca: you can probably copy the previous one and change the version
[22:02] <ryanakca> nixternal: Back, how did help.kubuntu.org go? Anything left to do?
[22:02] <Riddell> sorry I failed to get to it too, this cold is making multitasking not work
[22:03] <ryanakca> Riddell: Hehe, everybody is getting colds nowadays. I'll get to it.
[22:08]  * kb9vqf holds his breath ;)
[22:09] <kb9vqf> been able to avoid the flu thus far...
[22:09] <kb9vqf> ryanakca: If you can just copy the previous blurb and change "beta" to "release candidate" it'd be fine--I just want to let people know that I finally got the RC out
[22:45] <a|wen> yay; fix for bug 358576 accepted
[22:46] <a|wen> that must be my finished for today call ... night everyone
[23:07] <ryanakca> kb9vqf: Done... if you have anything else, just poke me
[23:44] <kb9vqf> ryanakca: Looks good...thanks!