/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/04/19/#kubuntu.txt

dwidmannhere's the relevant portion of my ~/.bash_aliases file -- http://pastebin.ca/139610000:00
_Groo_join #ubuntu-br00:03
quassel208okay, not that i get everthing but okay00:04
quassel208taskset -c 1-3 nice -n +19  ive put this before make, wat does this do ?00:05
dwidmannit assigns the following processes CPU affinity to logical processors 1-3 (it starts counting at 0), and gives it the lowest possible priority00:06
quassel208does that get faster compiling ?00:07
dwidmannNo, it keeps it at a lower priority so it's less likely to cause trouble, and so you can still use the computer while it's going (but when you're not, it'll be taking up like, 100% CPU00:08
tyler_wylieWhat intel driver version does Kubuntu use?00:13
quassel2081.600:13
dwidmann!info xserver-xorg-video-intel intrepid00:13
ubottuxserver-xorg-video-intel (source: xserver-xorg-video-intel): X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 2:2.4.1-1ubuntu10.4 (intrepid), package size 411 kB, installed size 900 kB00:13
dwidmann!info xserver-xorg-video-intel jaunty00:14
ubottuxserver-xorg-video-intel (source: xserver-xorg-video-intel): X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 2:2.6.3-0ubuntu9 (jaunty), package size 512 kB, installed size 1292 kB (Only available for amd64 hurd-i386 i386 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64 netbsd-i386 lpia)00:14
tyler_wyliedwidmann: danke schon00:14
dwidmannYou're welcome tyler_wylie00:16
tyler_wylieI get lockups in Kubuntu that the 2.6.0+ driver was supposed to fix when using the intel driver + kde + 3d00:18
tyler_wylieFedora, Arch, Kubuntu, all over...00:18
tyler_wylieKubuntu's the first time I tried using the 2.6.X driver, maybe the release will have updated a bug00:19
ubuntubye00:19
dwidmanntyler_wylie: I've heard the intel driver is majorly changed in Jaunty, but still a bit buggy...00:23
wirechiefdwidmann they are blacklisting intel945 on jaunty until a fix is ready, keep people from having freezes00:28
quassel208why are they blacklisting it?00:31
dwidmannwirechief: ah, nice to know that it won't effect me then :)00:31
tyler_wyliewirechief: I have a 965 and I got freezes =\00:31
wirechief;)00:31
dwidmannwirechief: think the fix will make it into the release? (I said think, not know)00:32
wirechieftyler_wylie: me too, i am testing it currently00:32
wirechiefdwidmann: no. perhaps later but there seems to be more than one bug they are chasing atm00:32
tyler_wyliewirechief: though I'm in Fedora right now, the only fix I've had on both is to use XAA instead of EXA00:32
tyler_wyliewirechief: but that causes a 3d performance decrease which sucks00:33
wirechieftyler_wylie:  seems everyone has a workaround with this thing, its crazy00:33
quassel208uxa00:33
quassel208it works for me00:33
wirechiefLinux wirechief-laptop 2.6.30-020630rc2-generic #020630rc2 SMP Wed Apr 15 13:20:18 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux00:34
wirechiefgetting some interesting numbers with glxgears00:34
wirechiefbut i am not getting freezes atm, with normal usage.00:35
wirechiefam using Option "AccelMethod" "exa"   and unless i run the test script i seem to be ok.00:36
AdolaGah!  I'm on Ubuntu right now.  I'm having an issue.  I brought my tower to my GF's house, (To update, I have dial-up)  and used her monitor.  now, Everytime I try to log into KDE, it crashes.  I can use Gnome, as that's what I'm on right now.  What can I do?00:36
wirechiefAdola  ;) use gnome00:37
Adola>.>  no.  I need to update.  update KDE.00:37
ymlHow can I add an application in the application menu ?00:38
wirechiefAdola well kde is nice when it works but i had to backoff using it for a while myself.00:38
wirechiefespecially with intel 94500:38
ymlshould I install an application to manage the menu or can I do this by editing conf files ?00:38
AdolaSo, what do I do?00:39
=== desti_T2 is now known as desti
wirechieftyler_wylie: what is your make and model of computer ?00:39
AdolaWhen I log it, it just says "kde plasmoid fatal error"00:40
quassel208how do i set back my desktop effects in kde ( shortcut keys )00:40
AdolaHow maybe can I restart plasma without restarting X?00:41
wirechiefAdola did you check launchpad to see if there is a bug reported already on it ?00:41
harolddongyml use the lancelot menu it has an editor00:41
Adolawirechief: It wouldn't matter, I haven't updated yet, it did work on my monitor.  And even if there was a fix, how could I begin to fix it?00:41
ymlharolddong: lancelot is an application, right ?00:41
=== andrea is now known as Guest8904
muhsinhi00:42
wirechiefAdola i dont know, how to advise on something you havent done yet. best research it though, use google and launchpad they can give you some insight00:42
harolddongyml its a plasmoid00:42
harolddongit should be the repos00:43
ymlharolddong: aptitude search lan ?celot doesn't find anything00:44
dwidmannquassel208: since you seemed interested ... maybe this would interest you also ... haven't tested it since my recent edits though. http://pastebin.ca/139611700:45
DragnslcrAdola- in ~/.kde/share/config/ try renaming plasmarc and plasma-appletsrc and log in to KDE00:45
DragnslcrAdola- that should take care of any broken plasmoids00:46
AdolaOk, I loged into Kubuntu, and my apps poped up.  It's just plasma workspace.  How can I restart Plasma workspace?00:48
dwidmannAdola: kquitapp plasma && sleep 5 && plasma00:49
harolddongyml I guess its not in the repos right now. you can go to the lancelot home page and compile it from source if you want  http://lancelot.fomentgroup.org00:49
AdolaWhen I say "Apps poped up"  I mean, the autostart ones.00:49
AdolaNow, how can I open a terminal?00:49
AdolaTo type that?00:49
harolddongyml or find a deb somewhere00:50
drbobbhey doesn't jaunty support svg out of the box?00:50
dwidmannAdola: alt+f2 or whatever to get run command, presuming that works00:50
slaG`If I mess with xconfig I should be able to add an unsafe resolution right?00:50
dwidmannslaG`: presumably yes,00:51
slaG`is that the only way?00:51
slaG`Like in windows I can uncheck show only safe resolutions, any my monitor will go up to 160000:52
slaG`but with checked it goes to 1024 max00:52
dwidmannslaG`: dunno, but that way will almost definitely work, provided you do it right00:52
slaG`in kubuntu its only showing up to 102400:52
dwidmannslaG`: what video driver are you using?00:52
slaG`ok cool00:52
slaG`its a nvidia card00:52
slaG`but I didnt install it00:52
slaG`as I have wireless internet00:52
slaG`and that is fun to install00:52
dwidmannslaG`: you might be able to get the full res if you install the nvidia driver00:53
slaG`I dont in windows00:53
slaG`Ill try it00:53
slaG`after I get wireless working00:53
slaG`any tips on that lol?00:53
dwidmanndunno, apart from00:53
dwidmann!wireless00:53
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs00:53
dwidmannalso, for when you do get it working00:53
dwidmann!nvidia00:53
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto00:53
slaG`ya i tried that00:54
slaG`already00:54
slaG`think it could have somthing to do with installing 9.04 beta?00:54
AdolaHrm, ok, so I typed all that in, and it sayd "Application plasma could not be found using service org.kde.plasma and path /MainApplication."00:54
slaG`its an early beta00:54
Adola(Also, im in Kubuntu right now, I just ran "konversation" and it worked....00:54
dwidmannslaG`: upgrade to the RC and see if that fixes00:54
slaG`mk00:54
dwidmannslaG`: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade00:54
slaG`no internet lol00:55
slaG`ill figure it out00:55
slaG`haha00:55
dwidmannah, that helps00:55
slaG`wireless ftl00:55
slaG`if it detected my card00:55
slaG`and I didnt configure wep00:55
slaG`actully00:55
slaG`nvm00:55
slaG` i dont have wep00:55
slaG`blah00:55
slaG`ty00:55
dwidmanncan you go wired? (as funny as it may sound, you might need internet to fix your internet...)00:55
AdolaHrm.  well, I know kubuntu works at home.  So, as long as I have the console...All I need is the ability to update.00:56
AdolaWhat's the command to update?  Like, update the lists, and download the stuffss?00:57
dwidmannAdola: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade00:58
AdolaOH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!  "Some index files failed to download"00:59
AdolaSo, it won't update.......00:59
AdolaWhat can I do please?00:59
dwidmannAdola: which ones failed?01:00
Adoladwidmann: http://pastebin.com/d74f1d72101:00
dwidmannAdola: just the neon repo? You should be okay then01:02
dwidmannAdola: it'll just ignore that one01:02
Adoladwidmann: here is the full readout: http://pastebin.com/d1f79af401:03
dwidmannAdola: if it's just the neon repo that it is having trouble with, you should be okay01:05
Adoladwidmann: But, it won't let me update.  It just stops there.01:07
dwidmannAdola: you just won't be getting updates for kde-neon (daily svn) ... which from my understanding hasn't been recieving many updates lately anyway01:07
AdolaWell, how can I fix this problem?01:07
dwidmannAdola: yeah, && means continue if and only if the previous process exited with 0 status (English: didn't exit with errors)01:08
dwidmannAdola: just run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"01:08
AdolaAhhh!  Thanks very much dwidmann!01:08
AdolaAnd, thanks for teaching me that bit of info :)01:09
AdolaI appreciate the help :)01:09
Adolawell, off to eat!01:09
elateriteHi anyone know where i go to examine what packages came in an recent update on hardy? I saw some cups updates and now my printer doesn't work.01:26
dwidmannelaterite: maybe /var/log/dpkg.log01:29
elateriteThanks dwidmann!01:30
kanonmat_is ubuntuforums down?01:43
Tarzan^http://www.scribd.com/full/14391061?access_key=key-qx3bsxx0wrncypuiwf4  <-- Full Circle Mag #22 Ubuntu ( very very good ) ( Under reative Common )01:53
jeff__hello01:57
jeff__I think my dc jack is broken... is there a way to send the unplug event to acpid?01:58
jeff__basically I want to see if I can get my laptop to use my battery while it's plugged in01:59
jeff__anyone there?02:00
=== patrick is now known as Guest71737
dwidmannjeff__: not sure on that one02:07
jeff__hm02:07
jeff__i was going to manually change my battery state to discharging02:08
jeff__but I wasn't sure if that would screw it up02:08
dwidmannjeff__: maybe /etc/acpi/batterybtn.sh would do something02:10
dwidmannHard to say02:10
jeff__i think i tried that02:11
jeff__do you think "echo charging state discharging" would work?02:13
amelie_hi02:19
CoJaBo-Aztece02:19
amelie_i need help with kde settings02:20
maduserwhich ones?02:20
amelie_well02:20
amelie_the desktop settings02:20
amelie_i used to have a tab02:20
menaxI have made a mistake! I was trying to install firefox beta. but then I cannot make any flash page work again02:20
menaxI have followed steps indicated here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-firefox-3-beta-2-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html02:21
amelie_to select wich effects i want on the desktop handles02:21
amelie_when i reinstalled kubuntu, i lost that tab02:21
amelie_also lost the 3d, sphere on advance desktop effects02:21
amelie_so, i downloaded compiz02:21
madusergo to settings/destop?02:21
menaxbur now I have deleted the firefox on opt folder, i didn compelte the steps on the page, and also I have uninstalled and installed again firefox, but still the problem there02:21
amelie_yes, sistem settings, desktop02:22
amelie_on the "all effects tab, it doesn't have the cube or the sphere02:22
amelie_is limited02:22
amelie_also, I used to have a tab on the system settings/desktop effects, to enable the screen handlers; to customize it with the desktop effect of my preference02:23
amelie_now, i don't have that option02:23
amelie_:(02:30
Dragnslcramelie_- what version of KDE?02:33
etfbSeeings some seriously weird behaviour on my daughter's computer.  You need to hold a key for a second to make it register; sometimes it then produces two characters instead of one.  So to type "this" you press t for a second and it emits "tt", then h for a second and it emits "hh", then you put the cursor after the first "h" and hold backspace for a second to delete the middle two letters...02:52
etfbIt's very odd, and only happens on her login on that computer, and not at the KDE login screen.02:52
etfbAny ideas what could cause that?02:52
etfbOh, and in the rare cases when Ctrl+Alt+F1 works, it doesn't happen in the text-only terminal, only in X.  So it's some kind of X bug.02:53
etfbAny ideas?  Anyone... anyone... Bueller... Bueller... (Pharyngula...)02:54
=== patrick is now known as Guest70990
lorecasterhey all... i'm looking for a way to backup one of my wife's Jeff Dunham discs... a friend wants to borrow it, and i'm afraid that it;ll get damaged... thus it's a copywrited disk, how can i do this in ubuntu?02:58
=== asobiCrash is now known as asobi
=== carlo is now known as Guest98434
Guest98434Hello03:16
shane_kubuntu offtopic03:16
Guest98434I've just instaled Kubuntu 9.04, and I've noted that Pidgin don't stay in System Tray, some one know what to do?03:17
=== Guest98434 is now known as carlo
Joniewhy use pidgin in KDE DE?03:18
=== carlo is now known as Guest71075
Guest71075I've tried to use kopete, but my gtalk account doesnt work, so.....03:19
Jonieso i have no idea with your problem03:19
bloodhi03:20
Guest71075you don't know what my problem is, or how to fix it03:20
Guest71075???03:20
bloodwho have aircrack-ng?03:20
Joniefix it out03:20
bloodwho can help me ?03:21
Joniewhat's that03:21
bloodi can't download it03:21
Guest71075anyone knows why PidGin don't stay at system tray?03:21
lorecasteranyone know why all my video files would habve messed up colours? blue skin and whatnot?03:22
Guest71075what you mean:?03:23
lorecasterwhen i load a video, all the sounds are fantastic... but the image is off-colour03:23
lorecastermy web-apps work fine, my pictures are great... but when i load ANY AVI file, the skin is always blue03:24
lorecastertried a dozen players03:24
lorecasterand a dozen files :(03:24
Guest71075do you use kubuntu what version?03:24
Guest71075do you have staled 32codecs?03:25
DragnslcrGuest71075- my GTalk account works fine in Kopete03:25
Guest71075what is the server?03:25
lorecasteri use ubuntu 8.10 and have all recent codecs installed03:25
Guest71075talk.google.com? port 5223???03:25
lorecasterall restricted codecs, etc03:25
DragnslcrGuest71075- yup03:26
DragnslcrGuest71075- http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=5755703:26
Guest71075lorecaster try this http://thedaneshproject.com/posts/enable-medibuntu-in-ubuntu-810/03:26
lorecasterif this is the metaverse stuff... been there :P03:27
Guest71075this not work for me :(03:27
DragnslcrDo you have all of the other connection options turned on?03:28
Guest71075yes03:29
Guest71075but anyway pidgin had to be on system tray03:29
DragnslcrI dunno then. It's been working fine for me for a while03:29
Guest71075I'm ganna open a defect03:30
=== tanjir_ is now known as tanjir
Guest71075or some one could install pidgin and let me know, if the same problem occurs??03:31
Guest71075I'm using Kububtu 9.0403:31
Guest71075How I could open some configuration file by the terminal? sudo kate don't work03:34
khindenburgGuest70990: try nano03:39
fosco__Guest70990, sudo nano file03:40
lorecasterstill having problems with the codec03:49
lorecasterthe movies play fine, but they all play off-colour03:50
benjamin__lorecaster, I had to install mplayer to get some videos to work.04:03
lorecasterwhat probelms have you had, Benjamine?04:05
=== megan is now known as Yud_Zroc
mitchmeow04:17
=== mitch is now known as Guest20351
Yud_Zrocanyone know if jaunty if good enough for basic usage\04:18
lorecastermeow?04:19
lorecaster:P04:19
dwidmannYud_Zroc: might be, might not be. Only way to know if it's good enough for basic usage FOR YOU is to try it and see04:21
Yud_Zrocwhere can i get the download for it04:26
dwidmannYud_Zroc: see the channel topic04:27
* Yud_Zroc gets on the site04:27
=== pquarles is now known as p_quarles
vigneshhi All04:38
vigneshAnyone used a HYTECH HT 2520 webcam with kubuntu ?04:39
dwidmannNot me, but maybe this will prove useful vignesh:04:44
dwidmann!webcam04:44
ubottuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras04:44
vigneshI already saw that list04:46
=== Byron_ is now known as Byron
ByronHow do I disable suspend to disk/ram on Kubuntu 8.10? The Acer Aspire One does not recover from closing the lid even though I specify to lock the screen.04:51
siavash_hi05:15
siavash_does anyone know if it's possible to switch to compiz in 9.04?05:15
siavash_anyone here?05:16
jareklynxhi all05:38
yaa__hi05:39
simba_good morning :)05:41
jareklynxI've got a problem with openoffice 3.0 on KDE4, there is no icons only text commands, do yoou know the solution?05:51
* bondo689 is away: Gone away for now06:06
=== dynja is now known as yaa_
TechnovikingCan KMail working with a Exchange server?06:08
yaa_yes06:08
yaa_it can06:08
carosome body speak spanish?06:08
Technovikingfully or just IMAP?06:08
yaa_si06:09
carohola yaa_06:09
yaa_hola06:09
=== pquarles is now known as p_quarles
=== deepu is now known as UGEEK
anoncosHow can I change the appearance of an icon in a panel on 9.04 beta?  I have the file (a .kdb KeePass file) associated with KeePass, and it opens just fine, but the icon is still the default question-mark.06:38
yaa_by using pure x06:38
anoncosNot heard of that before...06:39
anoncosCan you elaborate... a Google search doesn't come up with anything relevant.06:41
sachin_hi all06:43
lorecastermore than anything at the moment, i'm just looking for some conversation. i'm a starving-novelist, hoping that there are some other writers here. I'd love it if someone who also writes recreationally can invite me into a private room... i just need to chat for a little while to lift my spirits. Hope doesn't bother anyone that i'm posting it here, but i've met so many wonderful faces, that maybe there'd be a few06:49
lorecasteron tonight.06:49
bazhanglorecaster, there is #kubuntu-offtopic and #defocus06:53
=== diespectra is now known as JGRowl
=== diespectra is now known as JGRowl
* bondo689 is back.07:16
=== pquarles is now known as p_quarles
=== Heliwr_ is now known as Heliwr
=== Heliwr_ is now known as Heliwr
=== christian is now known as Guest65877
=== ROSHA is now known as RoozbehOnline
digcn!08:15
blip-greetings,  I installed kubuntu 8.10 recently and it came with kde 4.1 and desktop 3D effects worked fine on my nvidia 8600GT laptop ... so I installed kde 4.2.2 through backports and it's working fine, except the desktop effects don't get enabled any more.... Trying to enable them tells me:08:18
blip-"Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to their previous values.Check your X configuration. You may also consider changing advanced options, especially changing the compositing type."08:18
themonstersprry tp spimd a n00b but i am having a world of trouble getting my wifi card to work on my acer one with kubuntu08:23
=== pquarles is now known as p_quarles
themonsterany one kan help?08:24
themonsterreally just needed help installing drivers08:24
themonstere-mail me for tips..... jiggatron6@gmail.com08:24
bazhangthemonster, what does lspci in the konsole say08:26
=== Pendevil_ is now known as Pendevil
rohani have a 320gb external hard disk. when i use it kubuntu, on safe removal, it does not actually power off like in windows. hence, on removal, there is a slight screeching noise from the hdd. how do i force the hdd to power down before removal? or at least stop spinning?09:01
bazhangrohan, on kubuntu or ubuntu? you posted in both channels09:02
rohanbazhang: both.09:02
Pinobuongiorno a tutti09:02
bazhang!it09:02
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)09:02
ceeHi, im running kubuntu on my laptop and i have the feeling that the contrast is low. Anyone knows where i can tune it? im running with fglrx drivers09:12
=== Guest70990 is now known as patrick
=== patrick is now known as peddy
jirka_Good morning I would like to ask if there is any way how to get desktop effects in kubuntu working with fglrx drivers. When I try to enble them Screen goes black and I have to manually disable them in kwinrc file. 3D acceleration is working fine.09:54
jirka_it is kubuntu 9.0409:54
tsimpsonjaunty support is only in #ubuntu+109:55
jirka_tsimpson: ok I will ask there09:55
sachinsudhii10:08
sachinsudi am new to ubuntu and i am liking it so far10:09
=== g_ is now known as [nickname]
petsoundshello, i am now running kubuntu 9. 04 RC. i want to ask how can i install Nvidia Driver, i'm a lil bit confused cause in the previous version of kubuntu hardware drivers notification will pop up and tell the recommended drivers. but in 9. 04 no notification. can anyone here tell me what i'm missing?10:25
=== jjordanthesailor is now known as pailor23
AizawaDear god, I am so pissed right now. For some reason, in both Ubuntu 8.10/9.04 and Kubuntu 8.10/9.04, I can login and set everything up, but then right when I think I got everything how I like it, suddenly one day I log in and my max resolution is 1280x1024 (I normally use 1600x1200)10:31
pailor23What kind of video card do you have?10:31
AizawaAti hd 485010:32
AizawaBut I use the free software drivers (default)10:32
pailor23do you have a resplution set in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?10:32
AizawaI will check10:32
AizawaHm..No.10:33
pailor23When you boot xwindows tries to autodetect the resolutions your monitor is capable of10:34
pailor23and then set a max bases on that10:34
pailor23sorry, new keyboard10:35
AizawaOkay. So what do I do?10:35
AizawaI'm supposed to set the resolution in xorg.conf?10:35
pailor23if you turn on your monitor at the same time sometimes it cannot report when asked10:35
pailor23you might try turning on the monitor first and then boot or you could set a static resolution in xorg.conf10:36
AizawaI will set a static one, then. Thank you so much for the help.10:36
pailor23hope it solves your problem10:36
||arifaXthunderbird only starts if I have my second display attached to my notebook. It really does not start (not only not visible). It hangs somewhere arround so I have to kill the tasks. It starts perfectly when 2nd display is attached. any ideas?10:38
pailor23does it show up on the second display?10:40
||arifaXpailor23: no I always use it on my main screen and when it starts (second display attached) it starts on the main one.10:42
pailor23I was thinking it might be a geometry issue maybe not.10:43
||arifaXpailor23: can follow you but does not look like a geometry problem10:43
giuseppe_hallo10:44
giuseppe_!list10:44
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network). If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »10:44
xabierkaixo10:49
ymlhello, I have installed the 9.04 RC 64 bits on a laptop "hp dv6-1030ef " almost everything work out of the box except the sound10:54
cinexyml10:55
cinexis there any sound devices recogniseD?10:55
cinexin kmix perhaps10:55
ymlI would like to know if someone has already solved this issue10:55
cinexu in the sound group ?10:56
cinexaudio10:56
cinexit hink10:56
ymlwhere can I see the recogniseID in kmix ?10:57
ymlcinex: the title of the window say HDA intel10:57
renanKpackageKit gives me two times the following message when doing updates:10:59
renanThe backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork!10:59
cinexyml in kmix you have volume controls ?10:59
renandoes anybody knows why ?11:00
ymlcinex: yes I do have volume controle11:01
B-Minushi11:01
cinexyml do you get an error when trying to access the sound serveR?11:02
cinexlike when you play music11:02
cinexyml install aumix see if you can turn up the volume with it.11:02
B-Minusi just installed kubuntu 8.10, which packet should i download to be able to listen to mp3s11:02
ymlcinex: no visible error message (notification , popup, ...)  I just do not have sound11:02
cinexB-Minus: you can use amarok11:02
B-Minusor listen to streamcast with amarok11:02
cinexB-Minus: there is also xmms (winamp clone)11:03
B-Minusyes amarok says im missing codecs when im trying to listen to stream radio11:03
cinexif u want winamp there is some repos you need to add to apt11:03
cinexoh11:03
cinexhave you installed any codecs?11:03
cinexat all11:03
B-Minusno just default kubuntu installation11:03
cinexk11:04
cinexnew to ubuntu B-Minus ?11:04
B-Minusinstalled previous versions of linux years ago but now im back cause i like perl11:05
cinexhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu11:05
cinexfollowing those instructinos will help11:05
cinexim figuring out amarok whilst u look at that11:05
cinexwhen u have done that, you can install some codecs11:06
cinexhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=439848 (post \4)11:06
fujimitsuhad a major system crash while watching a video on konqueror. am going to dig up the crash report later11:09
B-Minustnx cinex11:10
ymlfor exemple i have just inserted a cd, I clicked on a song. Amarok starts  but there is no sound on the speaker nor on the headset11:10
cinexfujimitsu: flash ?11:11
naceurnancy11:11
cinexyml did u install aumix ?11:12
ymlcinex: not that I know11:12
cinexdo it, try it. you might be able to turn it up11:12
cinexlong shot but .... all i got11:12
ymlok I am doing it right now11:12
cinexyml its text based so run it in a konsole11:13
fujimitsucinex: i am not sure11:13
cinexfujimitsu:  was it a flash video11:13
cinexa web streamed one11:13
fujimitsui do have flashplugin installed and am up to date as well11:13
ymlcinex: aumix is installed and launched11:14
cinexeverything up full ?11:14
fujimitsui need to see if i can make it crash again11:14
ymlcinex: yes everything is up full11:16
cinexmeh11:16
cinexdunno then11:16
cinexunplug the headphones?11:16
ymlcinex: I tryed both configuration plug an unplug11:17
cinexits odd because its not complaining about an error11:17
cinexand its not muted11:17
fujimitsudid you check the mixer setting11:17
noren_check alsamixer11:18
fujimitsuif pcm volume is down you wont get any sound regardless11:18
ymlthe volume is at max11:18
fujimitsujust click on the speaker icon > mixer > pcm volume11:19
ymlI am going to check alsamiser11:19
ymlfujimitsu: PCM volume is at its maximum11:20
cinexspeakers plugged in ?11:20
fujimitsudo you have a manual volume control anywhere that you havent checked?11:21
fujimitsuon the computer case ...11:22
cinexafk11:23
ymlfujimitsu: no everything is turned on11:24
fujimitsuwell.. i thought i had an audio issue, but it was just a matter of turning up 4 different sliders. shouldnt it be simpler...?11:25
ymleven the beep does not work11:26
ymlon the console?11:26
fujimitsutruth is am new to kde. if this was gnome i might be of more help11:27
srikarWhats is ur opinion on free software?Please take the survey at.( www.srikar.co.nr ) (This survey helps to promote free software and know individual opinion on free software)11:30
srikarit's not a spam.11:30
simba_that doesnt mean it is safe11:31
simba_;)11:31
srikarwww.srikar.co.nr (help us ,do take the survey) ThankQ :)11:32
Viincentciao a tutti11:45
Viincentcome apro i file .bin?11:45
Viincentc'è nessuno?11:50
AizawaHow do I install plasmoids? I've downloaded one, and now I have a folder with files and a .desktop file.11:55
drbobbhey there's something wrong with some of the kde sounds in /usr/share/sounds (Jaunty)11:55
drbobbthey don't play11:55
drbobbKDE-Window-Close.ogg is one such11:57
sven_hello, can someone tell me how I can delete files permanently in kubuntu?11:58
yaa_rm -rf11:58
drbobbsven_: select file and shift-delete11:58
drbobb(in dolphin)11:58
sven_drbobb: tx!11:59
drbobbnp.11:59
DexterFhi12:02
yaa_hi -fi12:04
drbobbyeah mostly all of the sound for window manager events don't work12:04
drbobbothers mostly do12:04
drbobbweird12:04
DexterFthe new adept irritates the heck out of me12:07
AizawaI found the old adept to be worse12:07
landershi. i'm using kubuntu 9.04. i would like to install the netbook-remix desktop with it. how can i do that ?12:07
B-Minushmm12:07
Aizawatry "sudo apt-get install netbook-remix-desktop"?12:08
B-Minuskdesu kate doesnt work ?12:08
drbobbAizawa: exactly _how_ was the old adept worse12:08
drbobbby having a load more features?12:08
landersthe command didnt work12:08
AizawaNah, it was just weird. And looked wrong, to me. What features are you missing in the new one?12:08
Aizawalanders: I'll check12:08
drbobbit doesn't tell how much space will be taken by what i'm about to install12:09
drbobbthe interface is confusing12:09
=== kozz_ is now known as kozz
drbobbi can't look at the details of the install process12:09
=== patrick is now known as Guest49514
pailor23it is called ubuntu-netbook-remix12:09
Aizawalanders: Go here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-netbook-remix-in-ubuntu-810804.html and do that, but switch all "intrepid" to "hardy"12:09
Aizawaor try what pailor23 said >.>12:09
Aizawaack!12:10
Aizawaintrepid to jaunty, I meant!12:10
drbobbthe problem with the old adept isn't that it's bad, because it's way better than what we got in jaunty12:10
=== Guest49514 is now known as darkstar
pailor23netbook-remix is going to install Gnome12:11
Aizawadrbobb: You can always install through the terminal, that way you can see everything12:11
drbobb(and i don't even think that's a matter of taste)12:11
drbobbAizawa: i don't need to be told that12:11
drbobbnow i always end up using apt-get at the terminal12:12
pailor23I recommend synaptic even though it is a Gnome program12:12
drbobbergo: the new graphical package tool is useless, as far as i'm concerned12:12
pailor23at least you can see all the packages in alphabetical order12:12
AizawaYeah, well, if there is a perfectly good option you don't have to whine about the other option not being good.12:12
drbobboh so i can't criticise something that i consider broken, if i have a different chocie12:13
drbobbs/chocie/choice/12:13
landersi'm gonna try ubuntugeek ... tks12:13
B-Minushow can i lounge kate with root rights ?12:13
B-Minusso i want to open a file that the root only can write too12:13
B-Minuslaunch i mean12:14
Aizawadrbobb: Depends on the situation, but right now, I don't think so. No one is forcing you to do it.12:14
pailor23Under Jaunty the Add Remove Software in System settings works pretty well12:14
AizawaB-Minus: sudo kate <file>12:14
drbobbi just can't see progress in a better tool being replaced by an inferior one12:14
drbobbthough i do understand there were reasons12:14
drbobbpailor23: it's crashed on me 2 or 3 times already in two days of use12:15
B-Minustnx Aizawa, i just did sudo su in console and then ran kate seperate but that didnt work12:15
B-Minusso with sudo kate it works12:15
AizawaHaha, my cat fell off the bed in his sleep12:17
Aizawa(It's not very high though)12:17
blackflagHello all :) Im looking for a project management software . Can someone recommend something?12:19
drbobb'sudo su' is not the Right Thing12:19
drbobbif you want an interactive root prompt, use sudo -i12:19
DexterFis there a kde3 version of 9.04?12:19
AizawaDexterF: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-jaunty-kde3-remix-beta12:20
AizawaDexterF: So, yes, there is12:21
DexterFAizawa:12:21
DexterFawesome12:22
Aizawa:)12:22
DexterFseriously, I'm having a look at kde4.2.2 right now and am underwhelmed12:23
simba_dont like it?12:23
hbbkhi12:24
AizawaI never used 3.5, the first kde version I tried was 4.0 which was bloated and slow, and so I found 4.1 to be. 4.2 happens to be awesome, though. (I have tried 3.5 afterwards, but I couldn't see why so many would use it. It looks horrible, and there are no features which makes it better than gnome in my opinon)12:24
AizawaGnome somehow still feels like the "real" desktop environment, for some reason. I can't take KDE seriously. >.>12:25
pailor23Can we please avoid the Gnome vs KDE debate12:26
AizawaThere's no debate, there's just me12:26
AizawaBut yeah, let's.12:26
B-Minusso is it worth trying kubuntu 9.04 while we are in a stable 8.10 ?12:27
AizawaI use Jaunty now, no bugs so far.12:27
pailor23Haven't seen any dramatic improvements in 9.04 so I recommend waiting for the final release12:28
AizawaHonestly, a fresh install of jaunty + updates works perfectly. After updating 8.10 I still got a lot of crashes.12:28
pailor23Haven't had significant crases with either 8.10 or 9.0412:29
AizawaWell, may not be significant, but it feels awkward to browse the web and suddenly something crashes.12:29
pailor23Bluetooth does not work well under either12:29
pailor23Konqueror?12:30
simba_hmm...something strange happend to my mysql, it has been trying to drop a table for half an hour now and cpu has been at 100% all the time.12:30
AizawaYeah, Konqueror.12:30
B-Minusyou guys use firefox ?12:30
AizawaNo, Konqueror :P12:30
DexterFsimba_: not at all. kde4 itself not and the kubuntu-specific stuff neither.12:30
pailor23Firefox only when I cannot get Konqueror to do what I want12:31
DexterFI mean, what on earth happened to adept? did someone beat it with the stupid stick?12:31
DexterFI typed in vm. no realtime update. no message that no packages match. figured vmware player is not in repositiries as it looks.12:31
AizawaThe only thing I like better with firefox is the option to clear all cookies/history and such when you close it. And to not ask to save passwords. But these might be available in Konqueror too, but I haven't found them...12:31
DexterFtried player12:31
DexterFlisted all sorts of stuff including packages that inluce "player" in the description. I wanted only packages that hae "player" in the name. no such option. no options at all, precisely.12:32
cinexopera is the way forward12:33
hbbkDexterF use aptitude the one and only package manager :)12:33
pailor23I like to use the native libraries of my chosen desktop therefore Konqueror12:34
DexterFhbbk: a') I like adept in kde3 b) I can't tell my dumb customers to go console12:34
drbobbi think konqueror is still not ok with gmail12:34
hbbkadept in kde4 is becoming real shit12:35
Aizawadrbobb: Works for me12:35
jussi01!language | hbbk12:35
ubottuhbbk: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.12:35
drbobbAizawa: i think only the plain html version work correctly12:35
DexterFnext thing: white font on black background in kicker - any way to change that?12:35
hbbkok ok, but that's what I think :)12:35
simba_drbobb: works good for me to12:35
Aizawadrbobb: Oh right, "...use a fully supported browser"...12:36
AizawaStill, there are no features of it that I miss12:36
drbobbyes there are several12:36
drbobbkeyboard shortcuts is one12:36
AizawaWell, none that -I- miss.12:37
hbbkBTW I have a simple for you guys question : how to umount /usr/share (I moved share to another partition because of spece pbs and forgot the delete the old share in /usr partition, how could I do that)12:37
drbobbAizawa: odds are you would miss the if you were aware of them12:37
simba_hbbk: is that a trick question?12:38
drbobbAizawa: for me the killer is not being able to pick a From: address when composing mail12:38
hbbkthe root shell in recovery mode usr something located in share so impossible to umount12:38
hbbkuse something12:38
AizawaI've used gmail in other browsers, so I know what's not there, but I still didn't use them even while they were there.12:38
simba_hbbk: just set it up in fstab12:38
hbbkbut I want to keep my new /usr/share, I just want to erage what was in the disk12:39
hbbkerase sry12:39
drbobbAizawa: granted that even the plain html version of gmail leaves any other webmail behind12:40
hbbkwhat is in /usr/share (the old share) is probably corruped to going back to is by removing the mount on the new /usr/share in fstab is not th esolution apparently12:41
hbbkso goint back12:41
hbbkis there a way to have a root shell without mounting anything ?12:41
hbbkthat's the question in fact12:42
pailor23You can unmount things after you boot12:43
Dragnslcrhbbk- Adpet is replaced in 9.04 with KPackageKit12:43
=== che_ is now known as Guest86763
pailor23you would probably have to boot from a CD to unmount /usr/share12:44
pailor23Of all the things you could move to another partion why /usr/share12:44
AizawaPerhaps a stupid question, but if I use a deb for hardy from getdeb.net on jaunty, will I break anything?12:45
simba_home would have been a more obvious choice12:45
AizawaI don't see why it would myself, but just to be sure12:45
jussi01Aizawa: it might...12:45
jussi01Aizawa: depends on who made the deb, and how well.12:46
simba_Aizawa: it depends...but it will tell you about any conflicts12:46
Aizawahm12:46
hbbkyes I'll try booting from CD12:46
simba_Aizawa: make sure it dont uninstall anything12:47
hbbkthanks pailor2312:47
AizawaAlright, thanks.12:47
B-Minushmm12:47
B-Minusis it common to program in kate or are there any other good write-tools (must be perl compatible)12:48
simba_B-Minus: i use vim in consol mode12:49
=== disca is now known as Alieno
jussi01B-Minus: a lot of people use kate, but there are ide's also12:51
jussi01!code12:52
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans12:52
hbbkDragnslcr just installed kpackage, seems to be really buggy at least painfully slow and could not find anything12:54
AizawaI use kpackage, it finds everything (if it's in the repos)..12:54
AizawaEverything that I've searched for at least12:55
hbbkthat's very srange an aptitude serach find all what I need12:55
hbbkkpackage do not find nor display anything12:55
AizawaI need a pizza12:56
=== patrick is now known as Guest56702
=== Guest56702 is now known as Patlord
marco__ma come funziona?13:15
marco__this is first time for me13:16
marco__on this13:16
marco__chat13:16
=== patrick is now known as Guest8908
marco__ehi!?!?13:16
aga!it13:17
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)13:17
marco__thanks a lot13:17
marco__ubottu13:17
=== Guest8908 is now known as Patlord
oobeyeah it was all ubottu13:19
oobeaga had nothing to do with ti13:19
marco__but on this channel don't talk?13:26
=== oobe is now known as maddox
Aizawamarco__: what?13:26
=== maddox is now known as oobe
marco__hi aizawa13:27
Aizawa..hi13:27
marco__where are you from13:27
AizawaIf you want to talk offtopic go to #kubuntu-offtopic13:28
marco__thank I'm new customer of konversation...13:29
=== ubuntu is now known as kopertina
rmrfslashQuassel is cool.14:02
=== hhlp is now known as hhlp_
=== hhlp_ is now known as hhlp
=== root is now known as Guest8206
BluesKaj'Morning all14:33
ymlI am still struggling to get the sound working on my laptop14:37
ymldoes anyone has an idea of where I could get some information on how to get thsound working on my hp dv6-1030ef14:38
ymlor how to do a usefull bug report14:38
BluesKajyml , lspci | grep audio to find you make and model soundcard14:40
ymlBluesKaj: it outputs nothing14:42
siavash_can anyone help me with automounting ntfs volumes?14:42
BluesKajyml , of try, aplay -l14:42
BluesKajerr ok14:43
siavash_??14:43
ymlBluesKaj: when I play a music cd I see can visualise the sound with pavucontrol or pavumeter but can't hear anything also all the volume are ta their max14:43
p-fI just installed aterm and keep getting strangle symbols when gcc prints error messages, ex: vectortests.c:35: error: ‘true’ undeclared (first use in t14:44
p-fany ideas why?14:44
ymlBluesKaj: http://dpaste.com/35492/14:44
ymlhere is it the output for aplay -l14:44
peachesanyone know if jaunty adept has been updated to something more useful than intrepid14:45
EagleScreenpeaches: not14:46
peachesdammit14:46
EagleScreenbut Jaunty has got a new package manager: Kpackagekit14:46
BluesKajyml, the HDA Intel is buggy on 8.1014:46
ymlBluesKaj: i am using 9.04 RC14:47
BluesKajyml same thing14:47
ymlthe 64 bits version14:47
ymlBluesKaj: : anything I can do to help there14:47
peachesEagleScreen: ah hm is that any good?14:47
ymlbug report testing14:47
rbignallGreetings all... I was wondering if I might get some help.  Suddenly flash stopped working in my browser and is no longer listed in about:plugins.14:48
rbignallI have flashplugin-nonfree installed.14:48
ShappieIn kubuntu 9.04 is there a gmail checker plasmoid?14:50
BluesKajyml , Shappie , join #ubuntu+1 , some of the ppl over there may be able to help14:50
Shappieok14:50
confreyhi everybody14:50
EagleScreenpeaches: Adept is no longer developed so it has been replaced by Kpackagekit, this new packagemanager promise, it is great, but it has got a bug, see bug #34267114:51
yaa_сало14:51
confreywhat's the channel about jaunty?14:51
ymlBluesKaj: thank you14:51
yaa_no one14:51
confreyI've installed it, but I can't find acpi-cpufreq module14:51
xorredhey how could I set my capslock key to be Enter?14:53
rbignallAfter removing some packages and reinstalling flash, it is working again... still not sure why it stopped in the first place, but it is working now.15:03
devilsadvocaterbignall, what stopped?15:03
siavash_i have kubuntu 9.04, the plasma process is always at 50% CPU%. Is that normal?15:04
rbignallReference to my earlier question: Greetings all... I was wondering if I might get some help.  Suddenly flash stopped working in my browser and is no longer listed in about:plugins.15:04
siavash_BluesKaj: Is it possible to replace Kwin with Compiz in Kubuntu 9.04?15:05
peacheswell cool kpackagekit looks like itll at least be more useful than adept15:05
devilsadvocaterbignall, hmm, ok15:05
siavash_can anyone help me with switching to compiz in 9.04?15:06
rbignallIs there a way to install the 32 bit version of firefox and flash instead of the 64 bit version?  I understand there are less problems with flash on 32 bit.15:06
peachesrbignall: nspluginwrapper15:06
siavash_do people actually use konqueror or does everyone just download ff?15:07
rbignallPeaches: I'm using nspluginwrapper, thank you.15:07
BluesKajsiavash_, questions about 9.04 should be asked in #ubuntu+115:15
=== element is now known as Guest24684
=== tupac is now known as Costin
=== maximo is now known as Nasra
Costinhello15:47
ericservus15:56
=== eric is now known as Guest75485
Guest75485bin i fut?15:57
Guest75485egal also zarvus15:57
=== caty is now known as caty_revising
kanonmat_siavash_: i use opera, for some things like gmail, i use ff, sometimes i use konqueror16:04
bindaaskonqueror has good js engine?16:06
bindaasFF has very good js engine16:06
Lord_DeviWow am I glad 4.2 made it into jaunty.16:09
=== patrick is now known as Guest85483
=== puddle is now known as m4cH1n3
=== caty_revising is now known as caty
B-Minuscan i set the size of my taskbar somehwere ?16:51
B-Minuscant find it16:51
makabroskobrasil?16:53
Mamarok!pt | makabrosko16:54
ubottumakabrosko: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.16:54
B-Minus!be16:55
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about be16:55
B-Minus!nl16:55
ubottuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl16:55
ubuntuhi all16:59
=== ubuntu is now known as Chris64
Chris64KDE4 is indeed very cool17:00
=== Chris64 is now known as ubuntu_
=== ubuntu_ is now known as Chris64
Bsims{fs}I am having problems with my new Microsoft comfort mouse 3000 not all of the buttons register with X... do I need to reboot first? the scroll wheel works but the thumb button and tilt do not work, they show up in xev.17:07
=== andrea is now known as Guest91553
the_dark_warrioHow can I disable the touchpad click?17:13
=== melanie is now known as Guest40810
Mamarokthe_dark_warrio: it's likely that your laptop has a special key for disabling the touchpad, must be some Fn + something17:14
=== Guest40810 is now known as Me_A
Chris64where can i open a shell? ..17:14
Chris64K menu cant find shell or bash17:15
Chris64:/17:15
B-Minusdamn i cant find where to change the taskbar-size17:15
MamarokChris64: look for 'konsole'17:15
B-Minusis it even possible ?17:15
Chris64oh, thank you17:15
MamarokAlt+F2, then type konsole17:15
the_dark_warrioMamarok: I guess thats not the case17:15
MamarokB-Minus: which KDE are you talking about?17:16
B-Minus4.117:16
BluesKajChris64, look in the Kmenu/applications/system/konsole17:16
Mamarokthe_dark_warrio: what laptop do you have17:16
B-Minusjust installed kubuntu 8.1017:16
the_dark_warrioMamarok: dell17:16
Chris64yes, found it, thanks17:16
Mamarokthe_dark_warrio: which one, model?17:16
B-Minusbut now the size changed it went smaller cause i removed an applet17:16
the_dark_warrioVostro 131017:16
* Mamarok can't remember if resizing the panel was already there in 4.1.x17:17
B-Minusdamn17:17
B-Minusso17:17
B-Minusit changed size by itself and i cant even put it back in the original state17:18
devilsadvocateMamarok, it was17:18
devilsadvocateB-Minus, do you see a small grey cashew in the right bottom corner?17:18
=== m4cH1n3 is now known as puddle
B-Minusyes17:20
devilsadvocateB-Minus, click on it. you can modify the panel from there17:21
egorkhi there, I am trying to get multimedia keys at diNovo Edge keyboard to do someting usefull. In 8.04 I could manage Amarok over dcop. Now in Intrepid there is no dcop, neither Amarok supports dbus.17:21
B-Minus devilsadvocate tnx now it works17:22
devilsadvocateB-Minus, np17:23
egorksomehow a "play" and "forward" buttons work anyways, but not "rewind" or "stop". I have set the hotkeys in KDE settings, but this has no effect on Amarok. However that works for sound (over dbus)17:23
B-Minusim looking for a "run-applet" so i can put in a command in the panel and it launches it17:23
B-Minusdunno if it excists17:23
devilsadvocateegork, interestingly ive had the same problem on dell inspiron17:23
devilsadvocateit has something to do to with the key-mappings17:23
egorkdevilsadvocate, i see all buttons in xev. have them mapped too.17:24
egorkdevilsadvocate have you adjusted Xmodmap?17:24
B-Minusis there some sort of keyboard shortcut like in windows -> windows-key+R17:24
devilsadvocateegork, havent had time to test17:25
egorkdevilsadvocate, actually I had to set Xmodmap for 8.04, and had to tweak it again for 8.10, so may be this is a kernel or X problem? How does "play" work then anyways?17:26
gareth_hey guys17:28
=== solid_li` is now known as solid_liq
gareth_anyone here using jaunty yet?17:29
Dekansyes17:29
Mamarokyes17:29
gareth_I've got a bit of a problem, hoped someone might have a solution17:29
gareth_I can't enable the ati drivers in restricted drivers17:30
Dekansweird17:31
raymearshi everyone. i have a question too. it regards the encoding of filenames on ext3. i have a folder named "Herbert Grönemeyer" which shows up as "Herbert Grönemeyer"17:31
DekansI got no problem17:31
raymearsi can't open the folder in bash (using autocompletion) nor can i open it in dolphin/konqueror17:31
raymearsamarok 1.4 though... plays the files that are in there.17:31
gareth_very annoying, do you have any idea what high def video is like on the open source drivers? lol17:31
ante_hmm, so I'm running the Jaunty RC and desktop effects doesn't seem to work17:32
Mamarokgareth_: neither can I, use the radeon driver and hope for better times...17:32
egorkdevilsadvocate, it's good to talk to somebody. I have just opened Amarok shortcuts, and there they are. So this would explain, how "play" and "forward" work.17:32
gareth_I unerstand the drivers have been modified to suit the jaunty xserver so you can't use the ones from the ati website17:33
Mamarokraymears: set your system locale to utf-8, that should do the trick, else rename it with sudo rights17:33
raymearsMamarok: thanks, i'll give that a try17:33
gareth_one out of two solved, it's a start17:34
gareth_am I the only person who finds the new look/feel user un-friendly?17:35
Mamarokgareth_: and its on and off every other release, worked in Intrepid, didn't work in Hardy, worked before, etc.17:35
gareth_fair enough17:35
ante_gareth_: probably, I love it17:35
Mamarokgareth_: I use it since more than a year (KDE from SVN then) and I love it17:35
ante_but I would love it more if the desktop effects were working17:35
gareth_I'm not getting along with KPackageKit very well17:35
Mamarokgareth_: in the mean time, you can use some XRender features like transparency17:36
siavash_can someone point me to the ubuntu channel?17:36
ante_#ubuntu ?17:36
gareth_it doesn't make it clear which packages are main programs and which are dependancies17:36
Mamarokgareth_: well, that is huge work in progress, I use Synaptic17:36
gareth_also if my usb external drive is plugged in when I boot up it's invisible. I have to unplug & plug in for it to show up at all17:37
Mamarokand will likely do so for quite some time, till they have something better elsewhere, but that is unlikely17:37
Mamarokgareth_: that should work though, at least it does for me with the device notifier widget17:38
gareth_there's a lot about it I do like though, it's a very smooth look they are going for17:38
egorkI have solved my problem now, configured all shortcuts directly in Amarok as global shortcuts.17:39
gareth_right, well I shall leave you guys to it I think, maybe ubuntuforums might have a few tricks up their sleeves17:40
=== Cueball|2 is now known as Cueball
steevzHey17:45
steevz..17:46
Mamarok!ask | steevz17:47
ubottusteevz: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)17:47
=== genii_ is now known as genii
=== patrick is now known as Guest4228
=== Guest4228 is now known as darkstar
=== dan is now known as dcollins117
pteaguewhat's the keyboard shortcut for getting the window menu? i.e. the 1 that let's you make the screen go to full screen or switch desktops, etc ?18:19
kanonmat_alt F3?18:19
kanonmat_is for me18:20
pteaguecould be, but all konsole is giving me is "R" on the prompt when i do that...18:20
kanonmat_konsole could be different18:21
kanonmat_does it work on other windows?18:22
pteagueunfortunately i'm currently in gnome & trying to get konsole to work right18:22
pteaguei think the issue is i had the window maximized (not full screen) before & during the update it decided to make it full screen18:23
kanonmat_oh no i accidentally did alt F4 on my konsole :(18:23
kanonmat_if you restart konsole, is it the same?18:24
pteagueyeah18:24
pteaguei tried going to view -> exit full screen mode & it won't... i think it's stuck in the window settings to "force" full screen mode...18:25
pteaguehmm... guess i need to try to get to the system settings18:25
kanonmat_do you have special settings for konsole?18:26
pteagueno, but when i updated my desktop i know certain windows i previously had maximized had updated to forced settings >.<18:27
=== solid_li` is now known as solid_liq
pteagueok, i got system settings installed, but it doesn't have the option for window behavior :(18:29
kanonmat_if you rightclick on the titlebar, you get a menu, right?18:30
pteaguethat's just it, i'm not getting a titlebar :(  it's already forced to be fullscreen, not maximized18:30
pteaguethis is why i really prefer kde over gnome >.<18:30
shock_day13fellows im updating kubuntu 8.10 and i've got a messgae saying enter hostname of kebros version 4 servers18:31
shock_day13what should i do?18:31
pteagueok, i installed kde window manager & that gave me access to the window behavior option, but hah - it's not a kde setting it is a gnome setting...  & i'm not getting any responses in #ubuntu >.<  kde ftw18:32
kanonmat_ok, so you used metacity or something?18:33
kanonmat_maybe you can rightclick on the app in the panel and get a menu18:33
shock_day13what is keberos sever 4?????????????????18:34
shock_day13what should i enter in the blank space?????????????????????????????18:34
kanonmat_kerberos18:35
[nickname]Is there any tool that can keep track of users and passwords across several linux hosts?18:35
shock_day13yup18:35
shock_day13kerberos18:35
shock_day13im updating kubuntu 8.1018:35
shock_day13and ive got this message18:36
=== soma_ is now known as jasper_morello
shock_day13saying enter hostname for kerberos version 4 servers18:36
pteagueapparently all i had to do was unselect fullscreen & then exit the program & reload...18:36
kanonmat_good, pteague18:38
shock_day13kanonmat any solution to my query?18:39
kanonmat_kerberos is some kind of authentication....18:39
shock_day13ya i guess so18:39
Oceanwatcher_Anyone here know when the nVidia 185 drivers will show up in the hardware drivers app?18:39
kanonmat_google your exact message18:40
Oceanwatcher_I hear they are in beta now. How long does it usually take before they are in?18:40
kanonmat_hmm, im still on 169 driver :)18:41
AdolaI tried updating using adept....http://pastebin.com/d55a21f1318:46
AdolaWhat can I do to fix that?18:46
AdolaAnd, I can't install any new Plasmoids.  It all fails.18:47
kanonmat_one thing that would be e asy to fix is double entries in /etc/apt/sources.list18:51
kanonmat_then you might need keys18:52
=== war10ck is now known as pan1nx
Adolakanonmat_: How do I do this?18:58
kanonmat_sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_bak19:01
kanonmat_kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list and put a # in front of the double line19:01
kanonmat_or look for doubles19:01
kanonmat_i'm not sure about keys19:02
Adolakanonmat_: I can't find any duplicates :/19:07
kanonmat_pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list19:07
Adolakanonmat_: http://pastebin.com/d6c0b5cb819:09
siavash_can someone please help me with grub issues?19:10
siavash_installed one on sdb1. But now sda1 is gone and I can't boot into sdb119:10
siavash_oops19:10
siavash_I had 2 windows installations. I had one on sda1 and then I installed one on sdb1. But now sda1 is gone and I can't boot into sdb119:11
Adolasiavash_: Have you tried using the LIVEcd?19:11
siavash_adola: the windows live cd?19:12
Adolasiavash_: Yes.19:12
siavash_adola: yea19:12
kanonmat_Adola: "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu hardy main" is a hardy repo, it shouldnt be there19:12
Adolasiavash_: However, if you are wanting to dual-boot.  Then why not write grub.ini?19:12
Adolausing a unbutu or kubnut live CD19:12
siavash_adola: it doesn't recognize it19:12
Adolasiavash_: What exactly are you doing?19:13
siavash_adola: here's the deal19:13
siavash_adola: I had 2 windows installations19:13
siavash_adola: i got rid of one and installed ubuntu in its place19:13
siavash_adola: now i can't boot into the other windows I had19:14
lorecasterhey all... been fighting with my video settings for about a week... now that i have soudn working fine, all my movies show the skin as blue, the blues as yellows, the yellows as greens... etc... ideas?19:14
AdolaDo you have a ubuntu/kubuntu install disk?19:14
siavash_yes19:15
siavash_my ubuntu installations work well tho19:15
Adolasiavash_: Can you run it as a live cd?19:15
siavash_yes19:15
AdolaWell, just edit grub.19:15
AdolaHOlon.19:15
siavash_it doesn't work19:15
siavash_i can's just point to it19:15
siavash_it won't load19:15
=== hfsdo_ is now known as hfsdo
kanonmat_line 56 is a double, Adola and i think having both ubuntu and kubuntu repos is unnecessary19:17
siavash_adola: It's a bit more complicated than I said19:17
themonsteranyone here a kunbuntu xpert?19:17
Adolasiavash_: This MAY help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=95293019:18
Drew31siavash, I can't use the CL well at all, in a situation like yours, I would relaod grub.19:18
siavash_the situation is pretty complicated, here's the whole story19:18
siavash_adola: 1. I had windows vista, 2. I installed Ubuntu intrepid  3. I installed Win 7. 4. I reinstalled intrepid's grub19:19
Adolakanonmat_: Line 56 isn't a double?!19:19
siavash_at that point hardy's grub pointed to the vista partition19:19
kanonmat_lorecaster, i had that problem when i purged smplayer, after installing it again i had the right colors19:19
YalionAnyone can help me how install this patches http://smplayer.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/smplayer/mplayer-builds/patches/ in Kubuntu 8.10 ?19:20
siavash_5. I then deleted the vista and put jaunty on it19:20
lorecasterso Kanonmat, what are your instructions? :D i'm useless if left alone, at this early stage in my learning19:20
Assurbanipalhi guys, i have kubuntu 9,4 installed and face a problem. My desktop seems to go mad after a while, i cannot switch properly between windows or click on menus...anybody wiith an idea?19:20
siavash_so it's kind of a mess19:20
kanonmat_line 47 == line 5619:21
kanonmat_lorecaster: is there a "hue" setting in your media player?19:21
Adolakanonmat_: Oh :P19:22
lorecasteri use VLC19:22
[nickname]how do I set the default program for avi files?19:22
Adola[nickname]: Kickoffmenu>Settings>Defaultapplication19:23
[nickname]Adola: I can not select vidio files only email client embedded text editor file manger instant messenger terminal emulator web browser and window manager19:24
lorecasterkanon, but it is the same thing across ALL my players19:24
kanonmat_yes, i had that too, the only movie i could enjoy was "yellow submarine" :)19:25
kanonmat_im not sure it is the same problem19:25
lorecasterkanon, cute :P i just watched Ferris Beuler's Day Off and they looked like the cast from The Smurfs19:26
Adola[nickname]: Ok, do this...19:26
[nickname]I found it its under file accosiation19:26
[nickname]under the advanced tab19:26
Adola[nickname]: rightclick on the .avi.  >Properties>(The little)19:26
AdolaYes.  You found it :)19:26
lorecasteranyone else think they can help solve my cunnundrum?19:29
kanonmat_Adola: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUZOQsNo_ws19:31
kanonmat_i think there are better links, it was just a quick search19:31
Assurbanipalhi guys, i have kubuntu 9,4 installed and face a problem. My desktop seems to go mad after a while, i cannot switch properly between windows or click on menus...anybody wiith an idea?i have geforce 7800 gtx with latest nvidia driver installed19:33
AdolaThanks kanonmat_!19:35
AdolaI'm going to start doing this stuf :)19:35
kanonmat_and adola, you might have some conflicts, you have many ppa repos, they may have conflicting pkgs19:36
AdolaWhat do you recommend?19:36
kanonmat_i dont use ppa...19:37
Adola......Adept won't open now. >.>  It just keeps crashing...Restart...BRB19:37
kanonmat_i think some repos should be disabled19:37
Informatikerhi, is there somebody who can help me with my problem?19:41
geniiInformatiker: Please first describe the problem19:42
Informatikerok, I just wanted to see, if there is someone, who reads the chat19:42
InformatikerI have a problem with my flashplayer-plugin19:43
Informatikerwhen I maximaze the player on youtube19:43
Informatikerit "jerking"19:44
InformatikerI dont know the word for it19:44
InformatikerIam using firefox19:45
pailor23_Infomatiker: do you mean pixelated?19:45
Informatikerno, not pixelated, the picture ist well, its just "not so fast"19:46
Informatikersry my english ist very bad -.-19:47
Informatikeriam searching for the word19:47
usuarioSPANISH PLEASE19:47
pailor23_can you pause the movie and let the stream catch up to see if it is just insufficent bandwidth19:47
InformatikerI think "judder" is the right word19:47
usuariohola19:48
Informatikerehm no, its not the bandwidth, because the problem only occurs, when I maximize the player19:48
usuarioalguien habla español19:48
victimI use Opera and I also have juddery playback in fullscreen Flash19:48
victimit is missing frames19:48
=== raiden is now known as Guest76588
usuariohola19:48
Informatikerhmm19:48
p_quarles!es | usuario19:48
ubottuusuario: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.19:48
victimI stopped using Flash in fullscreen and left it in a window19:49
Informatikerand you have no solution yet?19:49
victimno19:50
Informatikerthats no option for me, cause iam looking very oft videos with that player....19:50
Informatiker*often19:50
Informatikernobody else has this problem?19:51
pailor23_Sorry, I avoid websites with Flash animation19:53
geniiHere too19:53
Informatikerok, another question19:54
kanonmat_i thought  the default was lower frames per second in fullscreen19:54
Informatikerwhich texteditor do you use to write programms19:55
kanonmat_gvim19:55
kanonmat_but i write mostly bash scripts19:56
geniiInformatiker: For programming in KDE, the most used is KDevelop19:56
pailor23_What type of programs do you write?19:57
=== Nightwalker_ is now known as Nightwalker-
Informatikerpython, c, java19:58
Informatikerhtml/xhtml19:58
Informatikercss19:58
PhilRodInformatiker: I have a similar problem with fullscreen flash animation. Are you using and nvidia card? I suspect it's an unfortunate interaction between the nvidia drivers and the flash player19:58
PhilRods/and nvidia/an nvidia/19:58
pailor23_Look at Kate, it has syntax highliting for most of those19:59
Informatikeractualy iam using kate19:59
=== dan is now known as dcollins117
Informatikerbut iam searching for alternatives19:59
Informatikeri will try kdevelop19:59
PhilRodInformatiker: I'm tempted to try the latest drivers (maybe the 185 beta ones, or at least the latest 180 ones)20:00
PhilRodhrm, I was going to wait till jaunty, but actually it makes as much sense to do it now, since I'm goign to reinstall this system20:00
pailor23_If you want wysiwyg html/css look at Quanta Plus20:00
pailor23_There are additional packages you need to install to get all of the syntax highlighting in Kate20:01
InformatikerPhilRot, so it does not work correct yet?20:02
PhilRodInformatiker: on the question of text editors, emacs and vim are popular (personally, I love emacs). Depends what sort of thing you're looking for20:02
PhilRodInformatiker: doesn't work for me with 180.11, but there are more recent drivers available that I haven't tried (so I hear)20:02
Informatikersyntax highlighting in kate works nice, but iam searching for autocomplet20:03
Informatiker*complete20:03
Informatikerhow do you write personal-message?20:04
pailor23_double click on the nickname if you are using Quassel20:05
Informatikerxemacs is definitely not for me, cause we have to use it at the university, and i hate it ;-)20:05
PhilRodugh, xemacs20:06
Adolakanonmat_: Ok, this is the error I'm getting now.. http://pastebin.com/d3c39b6e620:07
AdolaWhen I try to update.20:07
theuser1i have a 24/7 dsl and kubuntu as an os. i dont know how to do something. i mean i want o make some use of it... may be a webserver... or what else.can any one comment?20:09
geniiSeed *buntu torrents20:09
kanonmat_you need the absolutely latest amarok?20:09
Adolakanonmat_: Well..I guess not.  If it's hurting me, then no.20:10
kanonmat_theuser1, play online games?20:10
Adola(I just added that to get amarok 2 before it came out.)20:10
kanonmat_its out now :)20:10
theuser1kanonmat_:  something constructive. a broader view.20:11
kanonmat_folding at home, seti?20:11
Adolakanonmat_: I know :P  is that repo messing me up?20:11
kanonmat_i think you could try without ppa repos, see what happens20:12
Adolahow?20:12
kanonmat_especially the kde-experimental20:12
kanonmat_theuser1: seed free software torrents?20:13
Informatikerdo someone know, why some users have graphic-artefacts in kde4? they come only for a half second, if a window opens20:14
theuser1and?20:14
=== mork is now known as moijk
kanonmat_amarok-nightly-kdebase is conflicting with amarok-nightly-kdesupport...20:15
steevzWhat is/are the greatest games native to linux?20:16
Adolakanonmat_: So, ow would I fix that?20:17
Informatikerthe greatest game? supertux maybe ^^20:17
kanonmat_disable the repos in ur package manager or comment out the lines with a #20:18
kanonmat_i play nexuiz, 2.5 is out now its fantastic20:18
kanonmat_its not in repos i think, i dl, unzip and play20:19
kanonmat_neverball is fun20:19
Informatikerin think its in repos: nexuiz - A fast-paced 3D first-person shooter20:19
kanonmat_is it 2.5?20:20
kanonmat_i think its the 2.4.220:20
Informatikeri dont know, i have not installed it20:20
sithlord48i can't set a static ip w/ knetwork manager need help setting one...20:21
kanonmat_what programming language do u use, Informatiker20:21
kanonmat_t?20:21
kanonmat_sithlord48: use ifconfig and route20:21
Adolakanonmat_: Gah.  I'm sorry, I just can't do this :/  I can't find an amarok knightly anything in sources.list.20:21
sithlord48kanomat, ok i will give them a shot20:22
Informatikerkanonmat, sry i dont understand your question, use programming language for what?20:22
kanonmat_amarok-nightly... is not a repo :)20:22
AdolaUghghghg....How do I disable it?20:23
kanonmat_language support (autocompletion and highlight) is different in different editors20:24
jojowow20:24
sithlord48kanomat, can you give an example of how to set the ip w/ ifconfig after i bring the interface down ?20:26
geniisudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.101 up20:26
Informatikerah, ok, I use python/django, c, java, xhtml, css20:26
sithlord48genii, will that stick apon reboot ?20:27
geniisithlord48: No20:27
sithlord48genii, how can i get it to stick ?20:27
geniisithlord48: If you want some more permanent way, edit the /etc/network/interfaces file. The help page of:    man interfaces      shows some examples20:28
sithlord48genii, that is i think what i am looking for thanks..20:28
geniisithlord48: Also you cqan do it instead from your router with semi static dhcp by mac address20:28
kanonmat_i hear quanta should be good for web developing20:29
sithlord48genii, my crappy linksys Wrt54G don't let me do that20:29
geniisithlord48: The fast way at this moment is the interfaces file then. You can also btw install alternate firmware onto those routers (google freewrt or tomato or so on)20:30
AdolaSo....kanonmat:  What..>Do you recommend?  To fix this?20:31
sithlord48genii, whats odd is my eth0 does not even have an entry in the file i only see loopback connections...20:31
kanonmat_comment out the ppa lines, remove pkgs that are installed from ppa20:31
kanonmat_would be the clean thing to do20:32
geniisithlord48: If you have an entry in that file, the gui network manager does nothing with it (believes the connection has been manually configured). If no entry in there, gui network manager can use it20:32
=== bas is now known as idzme
kanonmat_default repos would be much easier to handle, if you really want to experiment with repos you should read the manual for a lot of things20:33
kanonmat_like man aptitude, man apt-cache, man dpkg20:34
sithlord48genii, that makes sence cause up untill last night the gui's static setting was working just fine20:35
kanonmat_this is for debian:http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html20:35
kanonmat_learn such things20:35
Adolakanonmat_: Well, how do I get rid of knightly?20:35
geniisithlord48: If you edit interfaces file, gui will still use that connection, just the network manager won't show it, etc20:36
kanonmat_hmm, idk if it comes through svn...20:36
sithlord48genii, thats cool how to i restart the network w/ the new settings ?20:36
geniisithlord48: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart20:37
kanonmat_do: apt-cache policy amarok..... ( fill in the correct name)20:37
kanonmat_it will show wht repo it came from20:37
Adolakanonmat_: http://pastebin.com/d6a6f950a20:40
kanonmat_hehe: man sources.list only gives me debian information, no ubuntu specifics :)20:40
=== jan_ is now known as Janneman
usuariohola tengo dudas20:41
usuarioalguien me puede echar una manita20:41
kanonmat_thats the default amarok, Adola,20:41
kanonmat_!es| usuario20:42
ubottuusuario: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.20:42
kanonmat_no hablo espanol, usuario20:42
steevzI was running apt-get in konsole, how do I kill/cancel it?20:42
kanonmat_control -c kills20:43
kanonmat_in general20:43
kanonmat_wait20:43
kanonmat_is it frozen?20:43
steevzNo.20:44
sithlord48_genii, nice got it all working gotta love ssh makes working other machines so much quicker :)20:44
steevzI was going to download Nexuiz but it was going like 10kb/s right now.20:44
steevzso I want to stop it so I can install something else..20:44
kanonmat_i suggest you let it run, steevz20:44
=== mj is now known as Guest20241
geniisithlord48: Glad you got it sorted out :)  I like also with ssh the -C, -v, and sometimes -X options....20:45
steevzwell, I closed the konsole it was running in, and I tihnk it's running in the background.20:45
kanonmat_oh, nexuiz is large, will take a while..20:45
steevzany way to check?20:45
steevzyeah, that is why I want to cancel it for now.20:45
sithlord48_genii, was annoying me yesterday i just started getting strange mount error from nfs.. when i turned on my computer...20:45
=== NotADJ is now known as TheDJACR
geniisithlord48: Make sure nfs mount options include "sync" so it writes immediately and not caches info before writing it.20:46
kanonmat_im not sure if it will break something, steevz20:46
sithlord48_genii, thank you for suggesting how ever i already do use sync20:47
sithlord48_genii, is sync nessessary for ro clients as well20:47
geniisithlord48: For ro, not neccesary20:47
sithlord48_genii, figured since there is no writing but i seen a guide that was using sync for ro and i figured i can't hurt20:48
steevzwell, I just removed /var/lib/dpkg/lock is that bad?20:48
sithlord48_genii, have you been a kubuntu user long ?20:49
kanonmat_Adola: locate amarok-nightly-kdesupport_20090419+svn956240-0neon1_i386.deb20:49
geniisithlord48: Since version 4.10 or so. Before then other Linux like RH, and other OS20:49
Adolakanonmat_: I ran that in terminal..But...I didn't do anything else.20:50
kanonmat_so apt-get isnt running, steevz?20:50
jarek_Hi everyone. My pal just lent me an install disk for kubuntu and after years of using windows I thought, what the hell time for a change. Loving it so far =D20:50
kanonmat_have you downloaded a .deb somewhere, adola?20:50
Adolakanonmat_: Huh?  I don't think so?20:51
kanonmat_!hi20:51
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!20:51
sithlord48_genii, the first ubuntu i used was 5.04 for ppc (on a G3 mac) but i have been using linux on and off since earily redhat20:51
steevzNo, it wasn't. Said it was still locked after I had closed the konsole.20:52
kanonmat_Project Neon is the nightly amarok, Adola20:52
sithlord48_genii, just finally made the switch permently no more dual boots run xp in a vm for what i need it for and then just win32 games become a problem20:52
Adolakanonmat_: Yes?20:52
kanonmat_steevz: sudo dpkg --configure -a20:52
steevzThnaks.20:53
geniisithlord48: I'm primarily on Kubuntu these days, no dual boot on my laptop...on my desktop I run multiple OS.  (But we grow also offtopic with this.. ;)    )20:53
kanonmat_so, put a "#" infront of the Project Neon lines in sources.list20:53
=== sithlord48_ is now known as sithlord48
usuariohola alguien habla español20:55
kanonmat_steevz: if you want nexuiz: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4821677/Nexuiz_2.520:56
AdolaWEEEEEEEEE!20:56
AdolaTHANKS kanonmat_!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!20:56
kanonmat_im not sure if that was ot...20:56
* Adola prances about!20:56
kanonmat_your welcome20:56
geniiusuario: /join #ubuntu-es o /join #kubuntu-es20:57
* Adola begins building a kanonmat_ statue in #kubuntu20:57
=== alberto is now known as cambiaso__
kanonmat_ty, i screenshotted it :)20:58
Adolahehe!20:58
kanonmat_now: read up on package management and how apt works :)20:58
triuneoi20:59
triuneanyone know how to compress a folder to a .jar in kde 4.2?21:00
triunetryin to build/hack my first firefox theme21:00
=== Luiz is now known as IvanKarpov
triunenm21:02
triunefastjar seems to do the job :)21:02
kaddi!jaunty21:05
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April 23rd - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.21:05
usuariohola alguien habla español21:15
kaddi!es |usuario21:15
ubottuusuario: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.21:15
kaddisomeone familiar with thunderbird? it is not showing certain emails and i don't know why it stopped showing them. :/21:40
kaddii can read them fine if i hit "reply" and read the cited text21:40
fujimitsukonqueror tells me shortcut to open new tab is ctrl-shift-N but ctrl-T does it too. it doesnt say that tho21:41
fujimitsuam using kde4.2.221:42
kanonmat_ctrl-shift-N doesnt open a new window?21:43
fujimitsuit does. but why do that when ctrl-T is quicker anyway21:44
kanonmat_a tab is not a window :) so the dokumentaion on konqueror is wrong?21:44
kanonmat_!launchpad21:45
ubottuLaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/21:45
fujimitsulet me rephrase .. actually.. both shortcuts do the same thing , that is, open a new TAB21:45
kanonmat_ok, then you have an extra shortcut :)21:47
fujimitsubut it is not documented21:47
fujimitsuhow many other undocumented shortcuts are in this konqueror21:47
theuser1 i need a free vnc software for both windows xp and kubuntu. i what to make windows and kubuntu both as some times client and some times server. need ecryptiiiiionn say ssh if possible. please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_remote_desktop_software if you want to ?21:47
kanonmat_maybe you could post in the kde forums21:47
fujimitsuyah21:48
kaddifujimitsu maybe you are forcing new windows to be opened as tabs21:48
kaddi?21:48
kaddii know this option exists for other browsers, might be the same thing?21:48
fujimitsuon a default set up?21:48
kanonmat_is this documentation in english?21:48
kaddino, probably not ;)21:49
onlookerHello. Can anyone tell me the bash command that shows you where symbolic links link to?21:49
kanonmat_ls -l21:49
onlookerThank you21:49
fujimitsukanonmat_:  yes, english21:49
onlookerAnother question I have is, how would I go about mounting my friend's HDD? It says it can't find it in fstab or mtab, but it is connected21:50
fujimitsukanonmat_: what version of kde are you using21:50
kanonmat_i use kde3.5.921:50
fujimitsucould you check if you can do this new tab thing on your konqueror21:51
kaddifujimitsu I can actually reproduce this on a kde 4.2.2 in german though it might not be default...21:51
kanonmat_it opens a new window with ctrl-shift-N21:51
kaddiforce new windows as tabs is one of the first settings i usually change, this is how i got the idee21:51
kaddiidea21:51
kanonmat_onlooker: look in /dev/    there it should be a new entry21:52
kanonmat_like sdb or something21:52
onlookerkanonmat_: It is. /dev/sdb21:52
fujimitsui see.. what ticked me was that ctrl-T is not documented as a 'open new tab' shortcut..  meh21:53
kanonmat_do like: sudo mkdir /mnt/otherhdd ; mount /dev/sdb /mnt/otherhdd21:54
=== george is now known as RungeKutta
noreni m tired of this dropping of network help some one21:54
kanonmat_depending on filesystems you might give options to mount21:54
=== RungeKutta is now known as KungeRutta
kaddifujimitsu all shortcuts should be shown in the "settings for shortcuts" it's the third option from the bottom in the settings-menu21:54
kaddiboth options ctrl-T and ctrl-shitf-N are mentioned there21:55
onlookerkanonmat_: All I know is, it's a windows HDD. So, I'm guessing fat or ntfs21:55
kanonmat_ok, let mount guess first, if it doesnt work you can set something21:56
onlookerkanonmat_: Says I must specify the filesystem type21:57
kanonmat_mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb /mnt/otherhdd21:58
kanonmat_or vfat21:58
onlookerIf it's vfat it says it can't read superblock21:59
fujimitsuyes, saw it there, kanonmat_, as the alternate way, but i still think they should have chosen ctrl-T as default and not alternate.. oh well.. done ranting.. good thing is, it works21:59
onlookerNTFS is slightly longer, I'll pastebin it21:59
onlookerkanonmat_: http://pastebin.com/m4086aeb921:59
theuser1genii:  i need a free vnc software for both windows xp and kubuntu. i what to make windows and kubuntu both as some times client and some times server. need ecryptiiiiionn say ssh if possible. please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_remote_desktop_software if you want to ?22:01
onlookerkanonmat_: If it helps you explain anything, the owner was toying around with locking his HDD (I didn't even know you could do that) and forgot his pass22:01
onlookerNow I'm trying to salvage it, somehow22:02
Dragnslcrtheuser1- I know x11vnc supports SSL, and SSVNC is a Windows client that supports SSL. For a Windows server, I just use the built-in Remote Desktop22:03
kanonmat_ah22:03
trylikhi, did someone managed to get 3g over bluetooth connection working with knetworkmanager?22:03
geniitheuser1: For the linux side I recommend xtightvncserver for the server, xtightvncviewer for the client. For the Windows side TightVNC is also available22:03
theuser1 i want to make windows and kubuntu both as some times client and some times server22:04
geniitheuser1:22:04
kanonmat_i dont know how lock works, i guess i should be possible to atleast format it, but idk22:04
geniitheuser1: If you want to tunnel over ssh then you will also need putty for the wondows part22:04
Dragnslcrtheuser1- there's no such thing as "sometimes clients and sometimes server"22:04
Dragnslcrtheuser1- you run the server on both computers, and can run a client on both computers22:04
theuser1genii: ic22:05
theuser1Dragnslcr: ya22:05
theuser1thats what i mean22:05
onlookerkanonmat_: Yeah, formatting it is plan B, which is quickly becoming the obvious choice22:05
theuser1genii: i think there is no xtightvncserver/viewer in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_remote_desktop_software ?22:06
genii!info xtightvncserver22:06
ubottuPackage xtightvncserver does not exist in intrepid22:06
genii!info tightvncserver22:06
ubottutightvncserver (source: tightvnc): virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.9-4 (intrepid), package size 722 kB, installed size 1552 kB22:06
Mezhmm, anyone using a Quick Access Plasmoid ? I need to see if the shortcut key bit works for others... as it doesnt work for me22:06
fujimitsuall system crash reports are in root>var>crash?22:06
kanonmat_maybe you can run testdisk on it?22:06
theuser1genii: so its tight ... same brand fffor windows and linux?22:07
geniitheuser1: Yes22:07
theuser1TightVNC RFB(VNC) GPL22:07
theuser1hm.. ok22:08
theuser1genii: you used it? i hope you liked it22:08
DragnslcrI would just use regular RDP for Windows22:08
geniitheuser1: I have previously used it. These days I do not use gui remote, but just ssh22:08
DragnslcrKrdc is a really nice client for RDP and VNC22:08
kanonmat_onlooker: maybe http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page can do something22:09
onlookerkanonmat_: Looks promising. I'll look into it22:09
theuser1Dragnslcr: ya but cant use that on windows as client. or server. i thought i would use same brand on both os to be compatible.22:09
theuser1genii: ok22:10
DragnslcrThere's an RDP server for Ubuntu. I've never used it though22:10
theuser1hm22:10
DragnslcrAnd there's no need to use the same "brand" for compatibility22:10
DragnslcrThe two server programs will never be connected to each other22:11
Dragnslcr!info xrdp22:11
theuser1genii: cant understand b/w vnc and rdp22:11
ubottuxrdp (source: xrdp): Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) server. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0~dfsg-8 (intrepid), package size 204 kB, installed size 728 kB22:11
kanonmat_brb22:11
theuser1Dragnslcr: i say krdc is ffffffor linux. its not in  any fffform. server or client in windows. thats my point22:12
Dragnslcrtheuser1- so? Windows already has an RDP client22:12
theuser1genii: cant understand difffffeence * b/w vnc and rdp22:12
theuser1Dragnslcr: which one?22:13
Dragnslcrtheuser1- uh, the one that comes with Windows?22:13
fujimitsuwhere are the crash reports stored22:13
theuser1Dragnslcr: windows has built in rdp suport. but no vnc support?22:14
kanonmat_locate crash?22:14
Dragnslcrtheuser1- yes, because there's no point in having both22:14
theuser1Dragnslcr: ok22:15
DragnslcrAnd from my personal experience, RDP is a better protocol than VNC22:15
fujimitsukanonmat_: i was expecting to find it in root/var/crash  but nothing there22:15
theuser1Dragnslcr: cant understand difffffeence * b/w vnc and rdp22:15
theuser1Dragnslcr: rfb=vnc ?22:16
DragnslcrNot sure. I know RFB (Remote FrameBuffer) usually uses the VNC protocol, but I don't know if that's part of the definition22:16
DragnslcrNever mind, other way around. VNC uses the RFB protocol22:17
theuser1Dragnslcr: cant understand difffffeence * b/w vnc and rdp22:18
onlookerkanonmat_: Okay, I'm off to try and salvage the thing. bbl22:20
=== john is now known as user99
=== user99 is now known as user38214
mounjidsalut22:47
mounjidça va?22:47
fujimitsuwhen i lock the screen on kde.4.2.2 if i move the mouse right away, i can still see the desktop (it remains locked though).  bug or feature?22:51
onlookerkanonmat_: No dice. How do I wipe the drive? Do I use dd?22:55
kanonmat_gparted i would think22:56
kanonmat_maybe it just needs to have the mbr wiped22:57
kanonmat_im no expert, i think there should be ways to salvage data22:57
kanonmat_good luck22:58
darichquestion, anyone know how to get Amarok 2.1 beta on jaunty?22:58
kanonmat_there are special repos, darich22:59
darichah22:59
darichyes I think I've tried those22:59
darichthe experimental ones22:59
darichdon't seem to work :(22:59
kanonmat_i guess svn then23:00
darichnoooooo23:00
kanonmat_or dl a tarball and compile23:00
darich;)23:00
darich*hates compiling*23:00
darichas you say no choice23:00
darichlast thing I compiled was Banshee23:00
kanonmat_it builds not only binaries, it builds charachter :)23:01
darichlol23:01
onlookerkanonmat_: gparted, huh? Will try23:01
kanonmat_idk, then, darich23:01
darichactually building Amarok 1.4 to support my Rio Karma was an adventure23:01
kanonmat_onlooker: you might wan to google for answers23:02
darichdependency after dependency23:02
darich:S23:02
kaddihow can i change the favorite tht are shown in k-menu in kde 4.23:02
kaddi223:02
kaddi?23:02
kanonmat_isnt the fav the on you used most, or used last?23:03
kaddino, after a year of use it still shows the same 6 programs, 4 of which i have never used23:03
kaddibut i just noticed that it can be added via rightclick on the programs in k-menu23:04
kanonmat_maybe you could try the alternative menu23:04
kanonmat_im on kde3 right now23:05
zer0ohi is there a combination of keys to recall the "process table"? in case an application gets stuck, is there a ctrl + alt + canc like it was for win? thanks23:05
onlookerkanonmat_: Been googling it before I came here, actually23:05
onlookerIt didn't look good then, either23:06
kanonmat_zer0o: i think there is ksysguard23:06
zer0okanonmat_: yes but how do i recall to it with a combination of keys?23:07
kanonmat_you can make your own shortcut for it, or make it the same as in windows23:07
kanonmat_in settings23:07
kaddictrl-esc should show you something similar to task manager23:07
kanonmat_i use htop in a konsole, it looks great and is very easy to use23:07
kanonmat_i bound ctrl-esc to ksysguard23:08
kaddiin kde4.2 its set by default :)23:09
zer0okanonmat_: thatz exactly what i was looking for23:09
zer0octrl + ESC23:09
zer0ogreat23:09
zer0onow im not gettin stuck in things and being forced to reboot anymore :D23:09
zer0oi tried everything alt + f4, ctrl alt canc, esc f1 f2 f3 etc... nothing23:09
zer0octrl esc will work indeed23:09
kaddictrl-alt-esc gives you a red cross which will kill the program you klick on next23:10
kanonmat_in console you can do lots of things, like: killall stupidappthatsfrozen23:10
kanonmat_killall -9 really kills it23:10
zer0oi stupidly killed konversation with that cross :D23:12
zer0odu no if it works also while ur using an app?23:12
zer0oi.e.: i was playing open arena, while i was trying to create a server, it got stuck and i had to reboot, du think it'll work there?23:12
zer0owhere do i find these commands anyway?23:13
kaddihere? :D23:13
zer0okaddi: ur such a character :D23:14
kaddizer0o have a look at this: Interner Fehle 2753. Updater.api_NON_OPT23:15
kaddiargh23:15
kaddisek23:15
kaddihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5079423:15
=== david__ is now known as magaio
=== NightDragon is now known as Underbyte
=== Underbyte is now known as Underbyte_0000
=== Underbyte_0000 is now known as Underbyte
=== Underbyte is now known as ndragon
kaddizer0o I mainly use google for this kind of thing and if I can't find the answer I ask here... so my answer was partly serious ;) I'm sure there is a nice summary somweher, I just haven't found it yet ;)23:17
onlookerUgh. It's late. Night everyone. Thanks for your help, kanonmat_23:20
kanonmat_have fun :)23:20
kaddii would like to assign the page-up, page-down function to two keys on my keyboards, which are currently not in use. is there any easy way to do this?23:27
kanonmat_settings and keyboard shortcuts23:28
kanonmat_do the keys work?23:28
kaddimechanically yes. they work fine with windows. They are designed to feature the € and $ symbol which I find particulalrly useless, this feature does not work out the box with kubuntu23:30
kaddii remapped the keys for windows and would like to do the same in ubuntu23:30
giohi guys23:31
gioI have a question about audio in kubuntu 9.0423:32
gioanyone here that can give some help?23:32
gioI updated from ubuntu 8.1023:33
kaddi!jaunty23:33
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April 23rd - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.23:33
gioperfect23:33
giothanks23:33
giogoing there23:33
kaddiyour welcome :)23:33
CoJaBo-AztecApril 23? :)23:33
giodidn't see the statement in the title ^_^23:33
CoJaBo-AztecIs it possible to upgrade without a reinstall?23:34
kaddithey do a good job hiding it up there, don't they? ;)23:34
CoJaBo-Azteclol23:34
CoJaBo-AztecNobody ever reads the topic :P23:34
Ciroslulz23:34
Cirosread, wassat?23:35
stingerhi all23:42
kaddihi :)23:42
rejohnHi. :) You are all invited to join the global KUbuntu Voice meeting live right now, at the #BerkeleyTIP channel on freenode.net.  http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/   BerkeleyTIP - All Free SW HW & Culture Global Group - Talks Installfest Potluck Project/ProgrammingParty -  Join IRC & we'll help you get onto the VOIP conference. Use Ekiga SIP phone & you'll need a headset with mic. Any questions?23:42
stingerlooks cool23:43
kaddikanonmat_ the keys are not recognized when I try to enter them via settings, just tried :(23:43
kaddiany other way?23:43
kanonmat_run xev in console23:43
kanonmat_have the little window in focus23:44
kanonmat_look at the keycode for the key23:44
kanonmat_then i guess you could set something up with xmodmap23:44
MrMac2hi, are the kde 4.2.2 package broken?23:48
MrMac2i added them, but no the installer tells me that it has unmet dependencies23:48
MrMac2what package FOO should i use to install 4.2.2? apt-get instll FOO23:49
kaddixev also isn't registering anything for those keys... doesn't look good o.o23:56

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!