[00:00] <dwidmann> here's the relevant portion of my ~/.bash_aliases file -- http://pastebin.ca/1396100
[00:03] <_Groo_> join #ubuntu-br
[00:04] <quassel208> okay, not that i get everthing but okay
[00:05] <quassel208> taskset -c 1-3 nice -n +19  ive put this before make, wat does this do ?
[00:06] <dwidmann> it assigns the following processes CPU affinity to logical processors 1-3 (it starts counting at 0), and gives it the lowest possible priority
[00:07] <quassel208> does that get faster compiling ?
[00:08] <dwidmann> No, it keeps it at a lower priority so it's less likely to cause trouble, and so you can still use the computer while it's going (but when you're not, it'll be taking up like, 100% CPU
[00:13] <tyler_wylie> What intel driver version does Kubuntu use?
[00:13] <quassel208> 1.6
[00:13] <dwidmann> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel intrepid
[00:14] <dwidmann> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel jaunty
[00:14] <tyler_wylie> dwidmann: danke schon
[00:16] <dwidmann> You're welcome tyler_wylie
[00:18] <tyler_wylie> I get lockups in Kubuntu that the 2.6.0+ driver was supposed to fix when using the intel driver + kde + 3d
[00:18] <tyler_wylie> Fedora, Arch, Kubuntu, all over...
[00:19] <tyler_wylie> Kubuntu's the first time I tried using the 2.6.X driver, maybe the release will have updated a bug
[00:19] <ubuntu> bye
[00:23] <dwidmann> tyler_wylie: I've heard the intel driver is majorly changed in Jaunty, but still a bit buggy...
[00:28] <wirechief> dwidmann they are blacklisting intel945 on jaunty until a fix is ready, keep people from having freezes
[00:31] <quassel208> why are they blacklisting it?
[00:31] <dwidmann> wirechief: ah, nice to know that it won't effect me then :)
[00:31] <tyler_wylie> wirechief: I have a 965 and I got freezes =\
[00:31] <wirechief> ;)
[00:32] <dwidmann> wirechief: think the fix will make it into the release? (I said think, not know)
[00:32] <wirechief> tyler_wylie: me too, i am testing it currently
[00:32] <wirechief> dwidmann: no. perhaps later but there seems to be more than one bug they are chasing atm
[00:32] <tyler_wylie> wirechief: though I'm in Fedora right now, the only fix I've had on both is to use XAA instead of EXA
[00:33] <tyler_wylie> wirechief: but that causes a 3d performance decrease which sucks
[00:33] <wirechief> tyler_wylie:  seems everyone has a workaround with this thing, its crazy
[00:33] <quassel208> uxa
[00:33] <quassel208> it works for me
[00:34] <wirechief> Linux wirechief-laptop 2.6.30-020630rc2-generic #020630rc2 SMP Wed Apr 15 13:20:18 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:34] <wirechief> getting some interesting numbers with glxgears
[00:35] <wirechief> but i am not getting freezes atm, with normal usage.
[00:36] <wirechief> am using 	Option "AccelMethod" "exa"   and unless i run the test script i seem to be ok.
[00:36] <Adola> Gah!  I'm on Ubuntu right now.  I'm having an issue.  I brought my tower to my GF's house, (To update, I have dial-up)  and used her monitor.  now, Everytime I try to log into KDE, it crashes.  I can use Gnome, as that's what I'm on right now.  What can I do?
[00:37] <wirechief> Adola  ;) use gnome
[00:37] <Adola> >.>  no.  I need to update.  update KDE.
[00:38] <yml> How can I add an application in the application menu ?
[00:38] <wirechief> Adola well kde is nice when it works but i had to backoff using it for a while myself.
[00:38] <wirechief> especially with intel 945
[00:38] <yml> should I install an application to manage the menu or can I do this by editing conf files ?
[00:39] <Adola> So, what do I do?
[00:39] <wirechief> tyler_wylie: what is your make and model of computer ?
[00:40] <Adola> When I log it, it just says "kde plasmoid fatal error"
[00:40] <quassel208> how do i set back my desktop effects in kde ( shortcut keys )
[00:41] <Adola> How maybe can I restart plasma without restarting X?
[00:41] <wirechief> Adola did you check launchpad to see if there is a bug reported already on it ?
[00:41] <harolddong> yml use the lancelot menu it has an editor
[00:41] <Adola> wirechief: It wouldn't matter, I haven't updated yet, it did work on my monitor.  And even if there was a fix, how could I begin to fix it?
[00:41] <yml> harolddong: lancelot is an application, right ?
[00:42] <muhsin> hi
[00:42] <wirechief> Adola i dont know, how to advise on something you havent done yet. best research it though, use google and launchpad they can give you some insight
[00:42] <harolddong> yml its a plasmoid
[00:43] <harolddong> it should be the repos
[00:44] <yml> harolddong: aptitude search lan ?celot doesn't find anything
[00:45] <dwidmann> quassel208: since you seemed interested ... maybe this would interest you also ... haven't tested it since my recent edits though. http://pastebin.ca/1396117
[00:45] <Dragnslcr> Adola- in ~/.kde/share/config/ try renaming plasmarc and plasma-appletsrc and log in to KDE
[00:46] <Dragnslcr> Adola- that should take care of any broken plasmoids
[00:48] <Adola> Ok, I loged into Kubuntu, and my apps poped up.  It's just plasma workspace.  How can I restart Plasma workspace?
[00:49] <dwidmann> Adola: kquitapp plasma && sleep 5 && plasma
[00:49] <harolddong> yml I guess its not in the repos right now. you can go to the lancelot home page and compile it from source if you want  http://lancelot.fomentgroup.org
[00:49] <Adola> When I say "Apps poped up"  I mean, the autostart ones.
[00:49] <Adola> Now, how can I open a terminal?
[00:49] <Adola> To type that?
[00:50] <harolddong> yml or find a deb somewhere
[00:50] <drbobb> hey doesn't jaunty support svg out of the box?
[00:50] <dwidmann> Adola: alt+f2 or whatever to get run command, presuming that works
[00:50] <slaG`> If I mess with xconfig I should be able to add an unsafe resolution right?
[00:51] <dwidmann> slaG`: presumably yes,
[00:51] <slaG`> is that the only way?
[00:52] <slaG`> Like in windows I can uncheck show only safe resolutions, any my monitor will go up to 1600
[00:52] <slaG`> but with checked it goes to 1024 max
[00:52] <dwidmann> slaG`: dunno, but that way will almost definitely work, provided you do it right
[00:52] <slaG`> in kubuntu its only showing up to 1024
[00:52] <dwidmann> slaG`: what video driver are you using?
[00:52] <slaG`> ok cool
[00:52] <slaG`> its a nvidia card
[00:52] <slaG`> but I didnt install it
[00:52] <slaG`> as I have wireless internet
[00:52] <slaG`> and that is fun to install
[00:53] <dwidmann> slaG`: you might be able to get the full res if you install the nvidia driver
[00:53] <slaG`> I dont in windows
[00:53] <slaG`> Ill try it
[00:53] <slaG`> after I get wireless working
[00:53] <slaG`> any tips on that lol?
[00:53] <dwidmann> dunno, apart from
[00:53] <dwidmann> !wireless
[00:53] <dwidmann> also, for when you do get it working
[00:53] <dwidmann> !nvidia
[00:54] <slaG`> ya i tried that
[00:54] <slaG`> already
[00:54] <slaG`> think it could have somthing to do with installing 9.04 beta?
[00:54] <Adola> Hrm, ok, so I typed all that in, and it sayd "Application plasma could not be found using service org.kde.plasma and path /MainApplication."
[00:54] <slaG`> its an early beta
[00:54] <Adola> (Also, im in Kubuntu right now, I just ran "konversation" and it worked....
[00:54] <dwidmann> slaG`: upgrade to the RC and see if that fixes
[00:54] <slaG`> mk
[00:54] <dwidmann> slaG`: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:55] <slaG`> no internet lol
[00:55] <slaG`> ill figure it out
[00:55] <slaG`> haha
[00:55] <dwidmann> ah, that helps
[00:55] <slaG`> wireless ftl
[00:55] <slaG`> if it detected my card
[00:55] <slaG`> and I didnt configure wep
[00:55] <slaG`> actully
[00:55] <slaG`> nvm
[00:55] <slaG`>  i dont have wep
[00:55] <slaG`> blah
[00:55] <slaG`> ty
[00:55] <dwidmann> can you go wired? (as funny as it may sound, you might need internet to fix your internet...)
[00:56] <Adola> Hrm.  well, I know kubuntu works at home.  So, as long as I have the console...All I need is the ability to update.
[00:57] <Adola> What's the command to update?  Like, update the lists, and download the stuffss?
[00:58] <dwidmann> Adola: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:59] <Adola> OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!  "Some index files failed to download"
[00:59] <Adola> So, it won't update.......
[00:59] <Adola> What can I do please?
[01:00] <dwidmann> Adola: which ones failed?
[01:00] <Adola> dwidmann: http://pastebin.com/d74f1d721
[01:02] <dwidmann> Adola: just the neon repo? You should be okay then
[01:02] <dwidmann> Adola: it'll just ignore that one
[01:03] <Adola> dwidmann: here is the full readout: http://pastebin.com/d1f79af4
[01:05] <dwidmann> Adola: if it's just the neon repo that it is having trouble with, you should be okay
[01:07] <Adola> dwidmann: But, it won't let me update.  It just stops there.
[01:07] <dwidmann> Adola: you just won't be getting updates for kde-neon (daily svn) ... which from my understanding hasn't been recieving many updates lately anyway
[01:07] <Adola> Well, how can I fix this problem?
[01:08] <dwidmann> Adola: yeah, && means continue if and only if the previous process exited with 0 status (English: didn't exit with errors)
[01:08] <dwidmann> Adola: just run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:08] <Adola> Ahhh!  Thanks very much dwidmann!
[01:09] <Adola> And, thanks for teaching me that bit of info :)
[01:09] <Adola> I appreciate the help :)
[01:09] <Adola> well, off to eat!
[01:26] <elaterite> Hi anyone know where i go to examine what packages came in an recent update on hardy? I saw some cups updates and now my printer doesn't work.
[01:29] <dwidmann> elaterite: maybe /var/log/dpkg.log
[01:30] <elaterite> Thanks dwidmann!
[01:43] <kanonmat_> is ubuntuforums down?
[01:53] <Tarzan^> http://www.scribd.com/full/14391061?access_key=key-qx3bsxx0wrncypuiwf4  <-- Full Circle Mag #22 Ubuntu ( very very good ) ( Under reative Common )
[01:57] <jeff__> hello
[01:58] <jeff__> I think my dc jack is broken... is there a way to send the unplug event to acpid?
[01:59] <jeff__> basically I want to see if I can get my laptop to use my battery while it's plugged in
[02:00] <jeff__> anyone there?
[02:07] <dwidmann> jeff__: not sure on that one
[02:07] <jeff__> hm
[02:08] <jeff__> i was going to manually change my battery state to discharging
[02:08] <jeff__> but I wasn't sure if that would screw it up
[02:10] <dwidmann> jeff__: maybe /etc/acpi/batterybtn.sh would do something
[02:10] <dwidmann> Hard to say
[02:11] <jeff__> i think i tried that
[02:13] <jeff__> do you think "echo charging state discharging" would work?
[02:19] <amelie_> hi
[02:19] <CoJaBo-Aztec> e
[02:20] <amelie_> i need help with kde settings
[02:20] <maduser> which ones?
[02:20] <amelie_> well
[02:20] <amelie_> the desktop settings
[02:20] <amelie_> i used to have a tab
[02:20] <menax> I have made a mistake! I was trying to install firefox beta. but then I cannot make any flash page work again
[02:21] <menax> I have followed steps indicated here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-firefox-3-beta-2-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html
[02:21] <amelie_> to select wich effects i want on the desktop handles
[02:21] <amelie_> when i reinstalled kubuntu, i lost that tab
[02:21] <amelie_> also lost the 3d, sphere on advance desktop effects
[02:21] <amelie_> so, i downloaded compiz
[02:21] <maduser> go to settings/destop?
[02:21] <menax> bur now I have deleted the firefox on opt folder, i didn compelte the steps on the page, and also I have uninstalled and installed again firefox, but still the problem there
[02:22] <amelie_> yes, sistem settings, desktop
[02:22] <amelie_> on the "all effects tab, it doesn't have the cube or the sphere
[02:22] <amelie_> is limited
[02:23] <amelie_> also, I used to have a tab on the system settings/desktop effects, to enable the screen handlers; to customize it with the desktop effect of my preference
[02:23] <amelie_> now, i don't have that option
[02:30] <amelie_> :(
[02:33] <Dragnslcr> amelie_- what version of KDE?
[02:52] <etfb> Seeings some seriously weird behaviour on my daughter's computer.  You need to hold a key for a second to make it register; sometimes it then produces two characters instead of one.  So to type "this" you press t for a second and it emits "tt", then h for a second and it emits "hh", then you put the cursor after the first "h" and hold backspace for a second to delete the middle two letters...
[02:52] <etfb> It's very odd, and only happens on her login on that computer, and not at the KDE login screen.
[02:52] <etfb> Any ideas what could cause that?
[02:53] <etfb> Oh, and in the rare cases when Ctrl+Alt+F1 works, it doesn't happen in the text-only terminal, only in X.  So it's some kind of X bug.
[02:54] <etfb> Any ideas?  Anyone... anyone... Bueller... Bueller... (Pharyngula...)
[02:58] <lorecaster> hey all... i'm looking for a way to backup one of my wife's Jeff Dunham discs... a friend wants to borrow it, and i'm afraid that it;ll get damaged... thus it's a copywrited disk, how can i do this in ubuntu?
[03:16] <Guest98434> Hello
[03:16] <shane_> kubuntu offtopic
[03:17] <Guest98434> I've just instaled Kubuntu 9.04, and I've noted that Pidgin don't stay in System Tray, some one know what to do?
[03:18] <Jonie> why use pidgin in KDE DE?
[03:19] <Guest71075> I've tried to use kopete, but my gtalk account doesnt work, so.....
[03:19] <Jonie> so i have no idea with your problem
[03:20] <blood> hi
[03:20] <Guest71075> you don't know what my problem is, or how to fix it
[03:20] <Guest71075> ???
[03:20] <blood> who have aircrack-ng?
[03:20] <Jonie> fix it out
[03:21] <blood> who can help me ?
[03:21] <Jonie> what's that
[03:21] <blood> i can't download it
[03:21] <Guest71075> anyone knows why PidGin don't stay at system tray?
[03:22] <lorecaster> anyone know why all my video files would habve messed up colours? blue skin and whatnot?
[03:23] <Guest71075> what you mean:?
[03:23] <lorecaster> when i load a video, all the sounds are fantastic... but the image is off-colour
[03:24] <lorecaster> my web-apps work fine, my pictures are great... but when i load ANY AVI file, the skin is always blue
[03:24] <lorecaster> tried a dozen players
[03:24] <lorecaster> and a dozen files :(
[03:24] <Guest71075> do you use kubuntu what version?
[03:25] <Guest71075> do you have staled 32codecs?
[03:25] <Dragnslcr> Guest71075- my GTalk account works fine in Kopete
[03:25] <Guest71075> what is the server?
[03:25] <lorecaster> i use ubuntu 8.10 and have all recent codecs installed
[03:25] <Guest71075> talk.google.com? port 5223???
[03:25] <lorecaster> all restricted codecs, etc
[03:26] <Dragnslcr> Guest71075- yup
[03:26] <Dragnslcr> Guest71075- http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=57557
[03:26] <Guest71075> lorecaster try this http://thedaneshproject.com/posts/enable-medibuntu-in-ubuntu-810/
[03:27] <lorecaster> if this is the metaverse stuff... been there :P
[03:27] <Guest71075> this not work for me :(
[03:28] <Dragnslcr> Do you have all of the other connection options turned on?
[03:29] <Guest71075> yes
[03:29] <Guest71075> but anyway pidgin had to be on system tray
[03:29] <Dragnslcr> I dunno then. It's been working fine for me for a while
[03:30] <Guest71075> I'm ganna open a defect
[03:31] <Guest71075> or some one could install pidgin and let me know, if the same problem occurs??
[03:31] <Guest71075> I'm using Kububtu 9.04
[03:34] <Guest71075> How I could open some configuration file by the terminal? sudo kate don't work
[03:39] <khindenburg> Guest70990: try nano
[03:40] <fosco__> Guest70990, sudo nano file
[03:49] <lorecaster> still having problems with the codec
[03:50] <lorecaster> the movies play fine, but they all play off-colour
[04:03] <benjamin__> lorecaster, I had to install mplayer to get some videos to work.
[04:05] <lorecaster> what probelms have you had, Benjamine?
[04:17] <mitch> meow
[04:18] <Yud_Zroc> anyone know if jaunty if good enough for basic usage\
[04:19] <lorecaster> meow?
[04:19] <lorecaster> :P
[04:21] <dwidmann> Yud_Zroc: might be, might not be. Only way to know if it's good enough for basic usage FOR YOU is to try it and see
[04:26] <Yud_Zroc> where can i get the download for it
[04:27] <dwidmann> Yud_Zroc: see the channel topic
[04:27]  * Yud_Zroc gets on the site
[04:38] <vignesh> hi All
[04:39] <vignesh> Anyone used a HYTECH HT 2520 webcam with kubuntu ?
[04:44] <dwidmann> Not me, but maybe this will prove useful vignesh:
[04:44] <dwidmann> !webcam
[04:46] <vignesh> I already saw that list
[04:51] <Byron> How do I disable suspend to disk/ram on Kubuntu 8.10? The Acer Aspire One does not recover from closing the lid even though I specify to lock the screen.
[05:15] <siavash_> hi
[05:15] <siavash_> does anyone know if it's possible to switch to compiz in 9.04?
[05:16] <siavash_> anyone here?
[05:38] <jareklynx> hi all
[05:39] <yaa__> hi
[05:41] <simba_> good morning :)
[05:51] <jareklynx> I've got a problem with openoffice 3.0 on KDE4, there is no icons only text commands, do yoou know the solution?
[06:06]  * bondo689 is away: Gone away for now
[06:08] <Technoviking> Can KMail working with a Exchange server?
[06:08] <yaa_> yes
[06:08] <yaa_> it can
[06:08] <caro> some body speak spanish?
[06:08] <Technoviking> fully or just IMAP?
[06:09] <yaa_> si
[06:09] <caro> hola yaa_
[06:09] <yaa_> hola
[06:38] <anoncos> How can I change the appearance of an icon in a panel on 9.04 beta?  I have the file (a .kdb KeePass file) associated with KeePass, and it opens just fine, but the icon is still the default question-mark.
[06:38] <yaa_> by using pure x
[06:39] <anoncos> Not heard of that before...
[06:41] <anoncos> Can you elaborate... a Google search doesn't come up with anything relevant.
[06:43] <sachin_> hi all
[06:49] <lorecaster> more than anything at the moment, i'm just looking for some conversation. i'm a starving-novelist, hoping that there are some other writers here. I'd love it if someone who also writes recreationally can invite me into a private room... i just need to chat for a little while to lift my spirits. Hope doesn't bother anyone that i'm posting it here, but i've met so many wonderful faces, that maybe there'd be a few
[06:49] <lorecaster> on tonight.
[06:53] <bazhang> lorecaster, there is #kubuntu-offtopic and #defocus
[07:16]  * bondo689 is back.
[08:15] <dig> cn!
[08:18] <blip-> greetings,  I installed kubuntu 8.10 recently and it came with kde 4.1 and desktop 3D effects worked fine on my nvidia 8600GT laptop ... so I installed kde 4.2.2 through backports and it's working fine, except the desktop effects don't get enabled any more.... Trying to enable them tells me:
[08:18] <blip-> "Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to their previous values.Check your X configuration. You may also consider changing advanced options, especially changing the compositing type."
[08:23] <themonster> sprry tp spimd a n00b but i am having a world of trouble getting my wifi card to work on my acer one with kubuntu
[08:24] <themonster> any one kan help?
[08:24] <themonster> really just needed help installing drivers
[08:24] <themonster> e-mail me for tips..... jiggatron6@gmail.com
[08:26] <bazhang> themonster, what does lspci in the konsole say
[09:01] <rohan> i have a 320gb external hard disk. when i use it kubuntu, on safe removal, it does not actually power off like in windows. hence, on removal, there is a slight screeching noise from the hdd. how do i force the hdd to power down before removal? or at least stop spinning?
[09:02] <bazhang> rohan, on kubuntu or ubuntu? you posted in both channels
[09:02] <rohan> bazhang: both.
[09:02] <Pino> buongiorno a tutti
[09:02] <bazhang> !it
[09:12] <cee> Hi, im running kubuntu on my laptop and i have the feeling that the contrast is low. Anyone knows where i can tune it? im running with fglrx drivers
[09:54] <jirka_> Good morning I would like to ask if there is any way how to get desktop effects in kubuntu working with fglrx drivers. When I try to enble them Screen goes black and I have to manually disable them in kwinrc file. 3D acceleration is working fine.
[09:54] <jirka_> it is kubuntu 9.04
[09:55] <tsimpson> jaunty support is only in #ubuntu+1
[09:55] <jirka_> tsimpson: ok I will ask there
[10:08] <sachinsud> hii
[10:09] <sachinsud> i am new to ubuntu and i am liking it so far
[10:25] <petsounds> hello, i am now running kubuntu 9. 04 RC. i want to ask how can i install Nvidia Driver, i'm a lil bit confused cause in the previous version of kubuntu hardware drivers notification will pop up and tell the recommended drivers. but in 9. 04 no notification. can anyone here tell me what i'm missing?
[10:31] <Aizawa> Dear god, I am so pissed right now. For some reason, in both Ubuntu 8.10/9.04 and Kubuntu 8.10/9.04, I can login and set everything up, but then right when I think I got everything how I like it, suddenly one day I log in and my max resolution is 1280x1024 (I normally use 1600x1200)
[10:31] <pailor23> What kind of video card do you have?
[10:32] <Aizawa> Ati hd 4850
[10:32] <Aizawa> But I use the free software drivers (default)
[10:32] <pailor23> do you have a resplution set in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[10:32] <Aizawa> I will check
[10:33] <Aizawa> Hm..No.
[10:34] <pailor23> When you boot xwindows tries to autodetect the resolutions your monitor is capable of
[10:34] <pailor23> and then set a max bases on that
[10:35] <pailor23> sorry, new keyboard
[10:35] <Aizawa> Okay. So what do I do?
[10:35] <Aizawa> I'm supposed to set the resolution in xorg.conf?
[10:35] <pailor23> if you turn on your monitor at the same time sometimes it cannot report when asked
[10:36] <pailor23> you might try turning on the monitor first and then boot or you could set a static resolution in xorg.conf
[10:36] <Aizawa> I will set a static one, then. Thank you so much for the help.
[10:36] <pailor23> hope it solves your problem
[10:38] <||arifaX> thunderbird only starts if I have my second display attached to my notebook. It really does not start (not only not visible). It hangs somewhere arround so I have to kill the tasks. It starts perfectly when 2nd display is attached. any ideas?
[10:40] <pailor23> does it show up on the second display?
[10:42] <||arifaX> pailor23: no I always use it on my main screen and when it starts (second display attached) it starts on the main one.
[10:43] <pailor23> I was thinking it might be a geometry issue maybe not.
[10:43] <||arifaX> pailor23: can follow you but does not look like a geometry problem
[10:44] <giuseppe_> hallo
[10:44] <giuseppe_> !list
[10:49] <xabier> kaixo
[10:54] <yml> hello, I have installed the 9.04 RC 64 bits on a laptop "hp dv6-1030ef " almost everything work out of the box except the sound
[10:55] <cinex> yml
[10:55] <cinex> is there any sound devices recogniseD?
[10:55] <cinex> in kmix perhaps
[10:55] <yml> I would like to know if someone has already solved this issue
[10:56] <cinex> u in the sound group ?
[10:56] <cinex> audio
[10:56] <cinex> it hink
[10:57] <yml> where can I see the recogniseID in kmix ?
[10:57] <yml> cinex: the title of the window say HDA intel
[10:59] <renan> KpackageKit gives me two times the following message when doing updates:
[10:59] <renan> The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork!
[10:59] <cinex> yml in kmix you have volume controls ?
[11:00] <renan> does anybody knows why ?
[11:01] <yml> cinex: yes I do have volume controle
[11:01] <B-Minus> hi
[11:02] <cinex> yml do you get an error when trying to access the sound serveR?
[11:02] <cinex> like when you play music
[11:02] <cinex> yml install aumix see if you can turn up the volume with it.
[11:02] <B-Minus> i just installed kubuntu 8.10, which packet should i download to be able to listen to mp3s
[11:02] <yml> cinex: no visible error message (notification , popup, ...)  I just do not have sound
[11:02] <cinex> B-Minus: you can use amarok
[11:02] <B-Minus> or listen to streamcast with amarok
[11:03] <cinex> B-Minus: there is also xmms (winamp clone)
[11:03] <B-Minus> yes amarok says im missing codecs when im trying to listen to stream radio
[11:03] <cinex> if u want winamp there is some repos you need to add to apt
[11:03] <cinex> oh
[11:03] <cinex> have you installed any codecs?
[11:03] <cinex> at all
[11:03] <B-Minus> no just default kubuntu installation
[11:04] <cinex> k
[11:04] <cinex> new to ubuntu B-Minus ?
[11:05] <B-Minus> installed previous versions of linux years ago but now im back cause i like perl
[11:05] <cinex> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[11:05] <cinex> following those instructinos will help
[11:05] <cinex> im figuring out amarok whilst u look at that
[11:06] <cinex> when u have done that, you can install some codecs
[11:06] <cinex> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=439848 (post \4)
[11:09] <fujimitsu> had a major system crash while watching a video on konqueror. am going to dig up the crash report later
[11:10] <B-Minus> tnx cinex
[11:10] <yml> for exemple i have just inserted a cd, I clicked on a song. Amarok starts  but there is no sound on the speaker nor on the headset
[11:11] <cinex> fujimitsu: flash ?
[11:11] <naceur> nancy
[11:12] <cinex> yml did u install aumix ?
[11:12] <yml> cinex: not that I know
[11:12] <cinex> do it, try it. you might be able to turn it up
[11:12] <cinex> long shot but .... all i got
[11:12] <yml> ok I am doing it right now
[11:13] <cinex> yml its text based so run it in a konsole
[11:13] <fujimitsu> cinex: i am not sure
[11:13] <cinex> fujimitsu:  was it a flash video
[11:13] <cinex> a web streamed one
[11:13] <fujimitsu> i do have flashplugin installed and am up to date as well
[11:14] <yml> cinex: aumix is installed and launched
[11:14] <cinex> everything up full ?
[11:14] <fujimitsu> i need to see if i can make it crash again
[11:16] <yml> cinex: yes everything is up full
[11:16] <cinex> meh
[11:16] <cinex> dunno then
[11:16] <cinex> unplug the headphones?
[11:17] <yml> cinex: I tryed both configuration plug an unplug
[11:17] <cinex> its odd because its not complaining about an error
[11:17] <cinex> and its not muted
[11:17] <fujimitsu> did you check the mixer setting
[11:18] <noren_> check alsamixer
[11:18] <fujimitsu> if pcm volume is down you wont get any sound regardless
[11:18] <yml> the volume is at max
[11:19] <fujimitsu> just click on the speaker icon > mixer > pcm volume
[11:19] <yml> I am going to check alsamiser
[11:20] <yml> fujimitsu: PCM volume is at its maximum
[11:20] <cinex> speakers plugged in ?
[11:21] <fujimitsu> do you have a manual volume control anywhere that you havent checked?
[11:22] <fujimitsu> on the computer case ...
[11:23] <cinex> afk
[11:24] <yml> fujimitsu: no everything is turned on
[11:25] <fujimitsu> well.. i thought i had an audio issue, but it was just a matter of turning up 4 different sliders. shouldnt it be simpler...?
[11:26] <yml> even the beep does not work
[11:26] <yml> on the console?
[11:27] <fujimitsu> truth is am new to kde. if this was gnome i might be of more help
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[11:45] <Viincent> ciao a tutti
[11:45] <Viincent> come apro i file .bin?
[11:50] <Viincent> c'è nessuno?
[11:55] <Aizawa> How do I install plasmoids? I've downloaded one, and now I have a folder with files and a .desktop file.
[11:55] <drbobb> hey there's something wrong with some of the kde sounds in /usr/share/sounds (Jaunty)
[11:55] <drbobb> they don't play
[11:57] <drbobb> KDE-Window-Close.ogg is one such
[11:58] <sven_> hello, can someone tell me how I can delete files permanently in kubuntu?
[11:58] <yaa_> rm -rf
[11:58] <drbobb> sven_: select file and shift-delete
[11:58] <drbobb> (in dolphin)
[11:59] <sven_> drbobb: tx!
[11:59] <drbobb> np.
[12:02] <DexterF> hi
[12:04] <yaa_> hi -fi
[12:04] <drbobb> yeah mostly all of the sound for window manager events don't work
[12:04] <drbobb> others mostly do
[12:04] <drbobb> weird
[12:07] <DexterF> the new adept irritates the heck out of me
[12:07] <Aizawa> I found the old adept to be worse
[12:07] <landers> hi. i'm using kubuntu 9.04. i would like to install the netbook-remix desktop with it. how can i do that ?
[12:07] <B-Minus> hmm
[12:08] <Aizawa> try "sudo apt-get install netbook-remix-desktop"?
[12:08] <B-Minus> kdesu kate doesnt work ?
[12:08] <drbobb> Aizawa: exactly _how_ was the old adept worse
[12:08] <drbobb> by having a load more features?
[12:08] <landers> the command didnt work
[12:08] <Aizawa> Nah, it was just weird. And looked wrong, to me. What features are you missing in the new one?
[12:08] <Aizawa> landers: I'll check
[12:09] <drbobb> it doesn't tell how much space will be taken by what i'm about to install
[12:09] <drbobb> the interface is confusing
[12:09] <drbobb> i can't look at the details of the install process
[12:09] <pailor23> it is called ubuntu-netbook-remix
[12:09] <Aizawa> landers: Go here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-netbook-remix-in-ubuntu-810804.html and do that, but switch all "intrepid" to "hardy"
[12:09] <Aizawa> or try what pailor23 said >.>
[12:10] <Aizawa> ack!
[12:10] <Aizawa> intrepid to jaunty, I meant!
[12:10] <drbobb> the problem with the old adept isn't that it's bad, because it's way better than what we got in jaunty
[12:11] <pailor23> netbook-remix is going to install Gnome
[12:11] <Aizawa> drbobb: You can always install through the terminal, that way you can see everything
[12:11] <drbobb> (and i don't even think that's a matter of taste)
[12:11] <drbobb> Aizawa: i don't need to be told that
[12:12] <drbobb> now i always end up using apt-get at the terminal
[12:12] <pailor23> I recommend synaptic even though it is a Gnome program
[12:12] <drbobb> ergo: the new graphical package tool is useless, as far as i'm concerned
[12:12] <pailor23> at least you can see all the packages in alphabetical order
[12:12] <Aizawa> Yeah, well, if there is a perfectly good option you don't have to whine about the other option not being good.
[12:13] <drbobb> oh so i can't criticise something that i consider broken, if i have a different chocie
[12:13] <drbobb> s/chocie/choice/
[12:13] <landers> i'm gonna try ubuntugeek ... tks
[12:13] <B-Minus> how can i lounge kate with root rights ?
[12:13] <B-Minus> so i want to open a file that the root only can write too
[12:14] <B-Minus> launch i mean
[12:14] <Aizawa> drbobb: Depends on the situation, but right now, I don't think so. No one is forcing you to do it.
[12:14] <pailor23> Under Jaunty the Add Remove Software in System settings works pretty well
[12:14] <Aizawa> B-Minus: sudo kate <file>
[12:14] <drbobb> i just can't see progress in a better tool being replaced by an inferior one
[12:14] <drbobb> though i do understand there were reasons
[12:15] <drbobb> pailor23: it's crashed on me 2 or 3 times already in two days of use
[12:15] <B-Minus> tnx Aizawa, i just did sudo su in console and then ran kate seperate but that didnt work
[12:15] <B-Minus> so with sudo kate it works
[12:17] <Aizawa> Haha, my cat fell off the bed in his sleep
[12:17] <Aizawa> (It's not very high though)
[12:19] <blackflag> Hello all :) Im looking for a project management software . Can someone recommend something?
[12:19] <drbobb> 'sudo su' is not the Right Thing
[12:19] <drbobb> if you want an interactive root prompt, use sudo -i
[12:19] <DexterF> is there a kde3 version of 9.04?
[12:20] <Aizawa> DexterF: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-jaunty-kde3-remix-beta
[12:21] <Aizawa> DexterF: So, yes, there is
[12:21] <DexterF> Aizawa:
[12:22] <DexterF> awesome
[12:22] <Aizawa> :)
[12:23] <DexterF> seriously, I'm having a look at kde4.2.2 right now and am underwhelmed
[12:23] <simba_> dont like it?
[12:24] <hbbk> hi
[12:24] <Aizawa> I never used 3.5, the first kde version I tried was 4.0 which was bloated and slow, and so I found 4.1 to be. 4.2 happens to be awesome, though. (I have tried 3.5 afterwards, but I couldn't see why so many would use it. It looks horrible, and there are no features which makes it better than gnome in my opinon)
[12:25] <Aizawa> Gnome somehow still feels like the "real" desktop environment, for some reason. I can't take KDE seriously. >.>
[12:26] <pailor23> Can we please avoid the Gnome vs KDE debate
[12:26] <Aizawa> There's no debate, there's just me
[12:26] <Aizawa> But yeah, let's.
[12:27] <B-Minus> so is it worth trying kubuntu 9.04 while we are in a stable 8.10 ?
[12:27] <Aizawa> I use Jaunty now, no bugs so far.
[12:28] <pailor23> Haven't seen any dramatic improvements in 9.04 so I recommend waiting for the final release
[12:28] <Aizawa> Honestly, a fresh install of jaunty + updates works perfectly. After updating 8.10 I still got a lot of crashes.
[12:29] <pailor23> Haven't had significant crases with either 8.10 or 9.04
[12:29] <Aizawa> Well, may not be significant, but it feels awkward to browse the web and suddenly something crashes.
[12:29] <pailor23> Bluetooth does not work well under either
[12:30] <pailor23> Konqueror?
[12:30] <simba_> hmm...something strange happend to my mysql, it has been trying to drop a table for half an hour now and cpu has been at 100% all the time.
[12:30] <Aizawa> Yeah, Konqueror.
[12:30] <B-Minus> you guys use firefox ?
[12:30] <Aizawa> No, Konqueror :P
[12:30] <DexterF> simba_: not at all. kde4 itself not and the kubuntu-specific stuff neither.
[12:31] <pailor23> Firefox only when I cannot get Konqueror to do what I want
[12:31] <DexterF> I mean, what on earth happened to adept? did someone beat it with the stupid stick?
[12:31] <DexterF> I typed in vm. no realtime update. no message that no packages match. figured vmware player is not in repositiries as it looks.
[12:31] <Aizawa> The only thing I like better with firefox is the option to clear all cookies/history and such when you close it. And to not ask to save passwords. But these might be available in Konqueror too, but I haven't found them...
[12:31] <DexterF> tried player
[12:32] <DexterF> listed all sorts of stuff including packages that inluce "player" in the description. I wanted only packages that hae "player" in the name. no such option. no options at all, precisely.
[12:33] <cinex> opera is the way forward
[12:33] <hbbk> DexterF use aptitude the one and only package manager :)
[12:34] <pailor23> I like to use the native libraries of my chosen desktop therefore Konqueror
[12:34] <DexterF> hbbk: a') I like adept in kde3 b) I can't tell my dumb customers to go console
[12:34] <drbobb> i think konqueror is still not ok with gmail
[12:35] <hbbk> adept in kde4 is becoming real shit
[12:35] <Aizawa> drbobb: Works for me
[12:35] <jussi01> !language | hbbk
[12:35] <drbobb> Aizawa: i think only the plain html version work correctly
[12:35] <DexterF> next thing: white font on black background in kicker - any way to change that?
[12:35] <hbbk> ok ok, but that's what I think :)
[12:35] <simba_> drbobb: works good for me to
[12:36] <Aizawa> drbobb: Oh right, "...use a fully supported browser"...
[12:36] <Aizawa> Still, there are no features of it that I miss
[12:36] <drbobb> yes there are several
[12:36] <drbobb> keyboard shortcuts is one
[12:37] <Aizawa> Well, none that -I- miss.
[12:37] <hbbk> BTW I have a simple for you guys question : how to umount /usr/share (I moved share to another partition because of spece pbs and forgot the delete the old share in /usr partition, how could I do that)
[12:37] <drbobb> Aizawa: odds are you would miss the if you were aware of them
[12:38] <simba_> hbbk: is that a trick question?
[12:38] <drbobb> Aizawa: for me the killer is not being able to pick a From: address when composing mail
[12:38] <hbbk> the root shell in recovery mode usr something located in share so impossible to umount
[12:38] <hbbk> use something
[12:38] <Aizawa> I've used gmail in other browsers, so I know what's not there, but I still didn't use them even while they were there.
[12:38] <simba_> hbbk: just set it up in fstab
[12:39] <hbbk> but I want to keep my new /usr/share, I just want to erage what was in the disk
[12:39] <hbbk> erase sry
[12:40] <drbobb> Aizawa: granted that even the plain html version of gmail leaves any other webmail behind
[12:41] <hbbk> what is in /usr/share (the old share) is probably corruped to going back to is by removing the mount on the new /usr/share in fstab is not th esolution apparently
[12:41] <hbbk> so goint back
[12:41] <hbbk> is there a way to have a root shell without mounting anything ?
[12:42] <hbbk> that's the question in fact
[12:43] <pailor23> You can unmount things after you boot
[12:43] <Dragnslcr> hbbk- Adpet is replaced in 9.04 with KPackageKit
[12:44] <pailor23> you would probably have to boot from a CD to unmount /usr/share
[12:44] <pailor23> Of all the things you could move to another partion why /usr/share
[12:45] <Aizawa> Perhaps a stupid question, but if I use a deb for hardy from getdeb.net on jaunty, will I break anything?
[12:45] <simba_> home would have been a more obvious choice
[12:45] <Aizawa> I don't see why it would myself, but just to be sure
[12:45] <jussi01> Aizawa: it might...
[12:46] <jussi01> Aizawa: depends on who made the deb, and how well.
[12:46] <simba_> Aizawa: it depends...but it will tell you about any conflicts
[12:46] <Aizawa> hm
[12:46] <hbbk> yes I'll try booting from CD
[12:47] <simba_> Aizawa: make sure it dont uninstall anything
[12:47] <hbbk> thanks pailor23
[12:47] <Aizawa> Alright, thanks.
[12:47] <B-Minus> hmm
[12:48] <B-Minus> is it common to program in kate or are there any other good write-tools (must be perl compatible)
[12:49] <simba_> B-Minus: i use vim in consol mode
[12:51] <jussi01> B-Minus: a lot of people use kate, but there are ide's also
[12:52] <jussi01> !code
[12:54] <hbbk> Dragnslcr just installed kpackage, seems to be really buggy at least painfully slow and could not find anything
[12:54] <Aizawa> I use kpackage, it finds everything (if it's in the repos)..
[12:55] <Aizawa> Everything that I've searched for at least
[12:55] <hbbk> that's very srange an aptitude serach find all what I need
[12:55] <hbbk> kpackage do not find nor display anything
[12:56] <Aizawa> I need a pizza
[13:15] <marco__> ma come funziona?
[13:16] <marco__> this is first time for me
[13:16] <marco__> on this
[13:16] <marco__> chat
[13:16] <marco__> ehi!?!?
[13:17] <aga> !it
[13:17] <marco__> thanks a lot
[13:17] <marco__> ubottu
[13:19] <oobe> yeah it was all ubottu
[13:19] <oobe> aga had nothing to do with ti
[13:26] <marco__> but on this channel don't talk?
[13:26] <Aizawa> marco__: what?
[13:27] <marco__> hi aizawa
[13:27] <Aizawa> ..hi
[13:27] <marco__> where are you from
[13:28] <Aizawa> If you want to talk offtopic go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[13:29] <marco__> thank I'm new customer of konversation...
[14:02] <rmrfslash> Quassel is cool.
[14:33] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[14:37] <yml> I am still struggling to get the sound working on my laptop
[14:38] <yml> does anyone has an idea of where I could get some information on how to get thsound working on my hp dv6-1030ef
[14:38] <yml> or how to do a usefull bug report
[14:40] <BluesKaj> yml , lspci | grep audio to find you make and model soundcard
[14:42] <yml> BluesKaj: it outputs nothing
[14:42] <siavash_> can anyone help me with automounting ntfs volumes?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> yml , of try, aplay -l
[14:43] <BluesKaj> err ok
[14:43] <siavash_> ??
[14:43] <yml> BluesKaj: when I play a music cd I see can visualise the sound with pavucontrol or pavumeter but can't hear anything also all the volume are ta their max
[14:44] <p-f> I just installed aterm and keep getting strangle symbols when gcc prints error messages, ex: vectortests.c:35: error: ‘true’ undeclared (first use in t
[14:44] <p-f> any ideas why?
[14:44] <yml> BluesKaj: http://dpaste.com/35492/
[14:44] <yml> here is it the output for aplay -l
[14:45] <peaches> anyone know if jaunty adept has been updated to something more useful than intrepid
[14:46] <EagleScreen> peaches: not
[14:46] <peaches> dammit
[14:46] <EagleScreen> but Jaunty has got a new package manager: Kpackagekit
[14:46] <BluesKaj> yml, the HDA Intel is buggy on 8.10
[14:47] <yml> BluesKaj: i am using 9.04 RC
[14:47] <BluesKaj> yml same thing
[14:47] <yml> the 64 bits version
[14:47] <yml> BluesKaj: : anything I can do to help there
[14:47] <peaches> EagleScreen: ah hm is that any good?
[14:47] <yml> bug report testing
[14:48] <rbignall> Greetings all... I was wondering if I might get some help.  Suddenly flash stopped working in my browser and is no longer listed in about:plugins.
[14:48] <rbignall> I have flashplugin-nonfree installed.
[14:50] <Shappie> In kubuntu 9.04 is there a gmail checker plasmoid?
[14:50] <BluesKaj> yml , Shappie , join #ubuntu+1 , some of the ppl over there may be able to help
[14:50] <Shappie> ok
[14:50] <confrey> hi everybody
[14:51] <EagleScreen> peaches: Adept is no longer developed so it has been replaced by Kpackagekit, this new packagemanager promise, it is great, but it has got a bug, see bug #342671
[14:51] <yaa_> сало
[14:51] <confrey> what's the channel about jaunty?
[14:51] <yml> BluesKaj: thank you
[14:51] <yaa_> no one
[14:51] <confrey> I've installed it, but I can't find acpi-cpufreq module
[14:53] <xorred> hey how could I set my capslock key to be Enter?
[15:03] <rbignall> After removing some packages and reinstalling flash, it is working again... still not sure why it stopped in the first place, but it is working now.
[15:03] <devilsadvocate> rbignall, what stopped?
[15:04] <siavash_> i have kubuntu 9.04, the plasma process is always at 50% CPU%. Is that normal?
[15:04] <rbignall> Reference to my earlier question: Greetings all... I was wondering if I might get some help.  Suddenly flash stopped working in my browser and is no longer listed in about:plugins.
[15:05] <siavash_> BluesKaj: Is it possible to replace Kwin with Compiz in Kubuntu 9.04?
[15:05] <peaches> well cool kpackagekit looks like itll at least be more useful than adept
[15:05] <devilsadvocate> rbignall, hmm, ok
[15:06] <siavash_> can anyone help me with switching to compiz in 9.04?
[15:06] <rbignall> Is there a way to install the 32 bit version of firefox and flash instead of the 64 bit version?  I understand there are less problems with flash on 32 bit.
[15:06] <peaches> rbignall: nspluginwrapper
[15:07] <siavash_> do people actually use konqueror or does everyone just download ff?
[15:07] <rbignall> Peaches: I'm using nspluginwrapper, thank you.
[15:15] <BluesKaj> siavash_, questions about 9.04 should be asked in #ubuntu+1
[15:47] <Costin> hello
[15:56] <eric> servus
[15:57] <Guest75485> bin i fut?
[15:57] <Guest75485> egal also zarvus
[16:04] <kanonmat_> siavash_: i use opera, for some things like gmail, i use ff, sometimes i use konqueror
[16:06] <bindaas> konqueror has good js engine?
[16:06] <bindaas> FF has very good js engine
[16:09] <Lord_Devi> Wow am I glad 4.2 made it into jaunty.
[16:51] <B-Minus> can i set the size of my taskbar somehwere ?
[16:51] <B-Minus> cant find it
[16:53] <makabrosko> brasil?
[16:54] <Mamarok> !pt | makabrosko
[16:55] <B-Minus> !be
[16:55] <B-Minus> !nl
[16:59] <ubuntu> hi all
[17:00] <Chris64> KDE4 is indeed very cool
[17:07] <Bsims{fs}> I am having problems with my new Microsoft comfort mouse 3000 not all of the buttons register with X... do I need to reboot first? the scroll wheel works but the thumb button and tilt do not work, they show up in xev.
[17:13] <the_dark_warrio> How can I disable the touchpad click?
[17:14] <Mamarok> the_dark_warrio: it's likely that your laptop has a special key for disabling the touchpad, must be some Fn + something
[17:14] <Chris64> where can i open a shell? ..
[17:15] <Chris64> K menu cant find shell or bash
[17:15] <Chris64> :/
[17:15] <B-Minus> damn i cant find where to change the taskbar-size
[17:15] <Mamarok> Chris64: look for 'konsole'
[17:15] <B-Minus> is it even possible ?
[17:15] <Chris64> oh, thank you
[17:15] <Mamarok> Alt+F2, then type konsole
[17:15] <the_dark_warrio> Mamarok: I guess thats not the case
[17:16] <Mamarok> B-Minus: which KDE are you talking about?
[17:16] <B-Minus> 4.1
[17:16] <BluesKaj> Chris64, look in the Kmenu/applications/system/konsole
[17:16] <Mamarok> the_dark_warrio: what laptop do you have
[17:16] <B-Minus> just installed kubuntu 8.10
[17:16] <the_dark_warrio> Mamarok: dell
[17:16] <Chris64> yes, found it, thanks
[17:16] <Mamarok> the_dark_warrio: which one, model?
[17:16] <B-Minus> but now the size changed it went smaller cause i removed an applet
[17:16] <the_dark_warrio> Vostro 1310
[17:17]  * Mamarok can't remember if resizing the panel was already there in 4.1.x
[17:17] <B-Minus> damn
[17:17] <B-Minus> so
[17:18] <B-Minus> it changed size by itself and i cant even put it back in the original state
[17:18] <devilsadvocate> Mamarok, it was
[17:18] <devilsadvocate> B-Minus, do you see a small grey cashew in the right bottom corner?
[17:20] <B-Minus> yes
[17:21] <devilsadvocate> B-Minus, click on it. you can modify the panel from there
[17:21] <egork> hi there, I am trying to get multimedia keys at diNovo Edge keyboard to do someting usefull. In 8.04 I could manage Amarok over dcop. Now in Intrepid there is no dcop, neither Amarok supports dbus.
[17:22] <B-Minus>  devilsadvocate tnx now it works
[17:23] <devilsadvocate> B-Minus, np
[17:23] <egork> somehow a "play" and "forward" buttons work anyways, but not "rewind" or "stop". I have set the hotkeys in KDE settings, but this has no effect on Amarok. However that works for sound (over dbus)
[17:23] <B-Minus> im looking for a "run-applet" so i can put in a command in the panel and it launches it
[17:23] <B-Minus> dunno if it excists
[17:23] <devilsadvocate> egork, interestingly ive had the same problem on dell inspiron
[17:23] <devilsadvocate> it has something to do to with the key-mappings
[17:24] <egork> devilsadvocate, i see all buttons in xev. have them mapped too.
[17:24] <egork> devilsadvocate have you adjusted Xmodmap?
[17:24] <B-Minus> is there some sort of keyboard shortcut like in windows -> windows-key+R
[17:25] <devilsadvocate> egork, havent had time to test
[17:26] <egork> devilsadvocate, actually I had to set Xmodmap for 8.04, and had to tweak it again for 8.10, so may be this is a kernel or X problem? How does "play" work then anyways?
[17:28] <gareth_> hey guys
[17:29] <gareth_> anyone here using jaunty yet?
[17:29] <Dekans> yes
[17:29] <Mamarok> yes
[17:29] <gareth_> I've got a bit of a problem, hoped someone might have a solution
[17:30] <gareth_> I can't enable the ati drivers in restricted drivers
[17:31] <Dekans> weird
[17:31] <raymears> hi everyone. i have a question too. it regards the encoding of filenames on ext3. i have a folder named "Herbert GrÃ¶nemeyer" which shows up as "Herbert Grönemeyer"
[17:31] <Dekans> I got no problem
[17:31] <raymears> i can't open the folder in bash (using autocompletion) nor can i open it in dolphin/konqueror
[17:31] <raymears> amarok 1.4 though... plays the files that are in there.
[17:31] <gareth_> very annoying, do you have any idea what high def video is like on the open source drivers? lol
[17:32] <ante_> hmm, so I'm running the Jaunty RC and desktop effects doesn't seem to work
[17:32] <Mamarok> gareth_: neither can I, use the radeon driver and hope for better times...
[17:32] <egork> devilsadvocate, it's good to talk to somebody. I have just opened Amarok shortcuts, and there they are. So this would explain, how "play" and "forward" work.
[17:33] <gareth_> I unerstand the drivers have been modified to suit the jaunty xserver so you can't use the ones from the ati website
[17:33] <Mamarok> raymears: set your system locale to utf-8, that should do the trick, else rename it with sudo rights
[17:33] <raymears> Mamarok: thanks, i'll give that a try
[17:34] <gareth_> one out of two solved, it's a start
[17:35] <gareth_> am I the only person who finds the new look/feel user un-friendly?
[17:35] <Mamarok> gareth_: and its on and off every other release, worked in Intrepid, didn't work in Hardy, worked before, etc.
[17:35] <gareth_> fair enough
[17:35] <ante_> gareth_: probably, I love it
[17:35] <Mamarok> gareth_: I use it since more than a year (KDE from SVN then) and I love it
[17:35] <ante_> but I would love it more if the desktop effects were working
[17:35] <gareth_> I'm not getting along with KPackageKit very well
[17:36] <Mamarok> gareth_: in the mean time, you can use some XRender features like transparency
[17:36] <siavash_> can someone point me to the ubuntu channel?
[17:36] <ante_> #ubuntu ?
[17:36] <gareth_> it doesn't make it clear which packages are main programs and which are dependancies
[17:36] <Mamarok> gareth_: well, that is huge work in progress, I use Synaptic
[17:37] <gareth_> also if my usb external drive is plugged in when I boot up it's invisible. I have to unplug & plug in for it to show up at all
[17:37] <Mamarok> and will likely do so for quite some time, till they have something better elsewhere, but that is unlikely
[17:38] <Mamarok> gareth_: that should work though, at least it does for me with the device notifier widget
[17:38] <gareth_> there's a lot about it I do like though, it's a very smooth look they are going for
[17:39] <egork> I have solved my problem now, configured all shortcuts directly in Amarok as global shortcuts.
[17:40] <gareth_> right, well I shall leave you guys to it I think, maybe ubuntuforums might have a few tricks up their sleeves
[17:45] <steevz> Hey
[17:46] <steevz> ..
[17:47] <Mamarok> !ask | steevz
[18:19] <pteague> what's the keyboard shortcut for getting the window menu? i.e. the 1 that let's you make the screen go to full screen or switch desktops, etc ?
[18:19] <kanonmat_> alt F3?
[18:20] <kanonmat_> is for me
[18:20] <pteague> could be, but all konsole is giving me is "R" on the prompt when i do that...
[18:21] <kanonmat_> konsole could be different
[18:22] <kanonmat_> does it work on other windows?
[18:22] <pteague> unfortunately i'm currently in gnome & trying to get konsole to work right
[18:23] <pteague> i think the issue is i had the window maximized (not full screen) before & during the update it decided to make it full screen
[18:23] <kanonmat_> oh no i accidentally did alt F4 on my konsole :(
[18:24] <kanonmat_> if you restart konsole, is it the same?
[18:24] <pteague> yeah
[18:25] <pteague> i tried going to view -> exit full screen mode & it won't... i think it's stuck in the window settings to "force" full screen mode...
[18:25] <pteague> hmm... guess i need to try to get to the system settings
[18:26] <kanonmat_> do you have special settings for konsole?
[18:27] <pteague> no, but when i updated my desktop i know certain windows i previously had maximized had updated to forced settings >.<
[18:29] <pteague> ok, i got system settings installed, but it doesn't have the option for window behavior :(
[18:30] <kanonmat_> if you rightclick on the titlebar, you get a menu, right?
[18:30] <pteague> that's just it, i'm not getting a titlebar :(  it's already forced to be fullscreen, not maximized
[18:30] <pteague> this is why i really prefer kde over gnome >.<
[18:31] <shock_day13> fellows im updating kubuntu 8.10 and i've got a messgae saying enter hostname of kebros version 4 servers
[18:31] <shock_day13> what should i do?
[18:32] <pteague> ok, i installed kde window manager & that gave me access to the window behavior option, but hah - it's not a kde setting it is a gnome setting...  & i'm not getting any responses in #ubuntu >.<  kde ftw
[18:33] <kanonmat_> ok, so you used metacity or something?
[18:33] <kanonmat_> maybe you can rightclick on the app in the panel and get a menu
[18:34] <shock_day13> what is keberos sever 4?????????????????
[18:34] <shock_day13> what should i enter in the blank space?????????????????????????????
[18:35] <kanonmat_> kerberos
[18:35] <[nickname]> Is there any tool that can keep track of users and passwords across several linux hosts?
[18:35] <shock_day13> yup
[18:35] <shock_day13> kerberos
[18:35] <shock_day13> im updating kubuntu 8.10
[18:36] <shock_day13> and ive got this message
[18:36] <shock_day13> saying enter hostname for kerberos version 4 servers
[18:36] <pteague> apparently all i had to do was unselect fullscreen & then exit the program & reload...
[18:38] <kanonmat_> good, pteague
[18:39] <shock_day13> kanonmat any solution to my query?
[18:39] <kanonmat_> kerberos is some kind of authentication....
[18:39] <shock_day13> ya i guess so
[18:39] <Oceanwatcher_> Anyone here know when the nVidia 185 drivers will show up in the hardware drivers app?
[18:40] <kanonmat_> google your exact message
[18:40] <Oceanwatcher_> I hear they are in beta now. How long does it usually take before they are in?
[18:41] <kanonmat_> hmm, im still on 169 driver :)
[18:46] <Adola> I tried updating using adept....http://pastebin.com/d55a21f13
[18:46] <Adola> What can I do to fix that?
[18:47] <Adola> And, I can't install any new Plasmoids.  It all fails.
[18:51] <kanonmat_> one thing that would be e asy to fix is double entries in /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:52] <kanonmat_> then you might need keys
[18:58] <Adola> kanonmat_: How do I do this?
[19:01] <kanonmat_> sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_bak
[19:01] <kanonmat_> kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list and put a # in front of the double line
[19:01] <kanonmat_> or look for doubles
[19:02] <kanonmat_> i'm not sure about keys
[19:07] <Adola> kanonmat_: I can't find any duplicates :/
[19:07] <kanonmat_> pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:09] <Adola> kanonmat_: http://pastebin.com/d6c0b5cb8
[19:10] <siavash_> can someone please help me with grub issues?
[19:10] <siavash_> installed one on sdb1. But now sda1 is gone and I can't boot into sdb1
[19:10] <siavash_> oops
[19:11] <siavash_> I had 2 windows installations. I had one on sda1 and then I installed one on sdb1. But now sda1 is gone and I can't boot into sdb1
[19:11] <Adola> siavash_: Have you tried using the LIVEcd?
[19:12] <siavash_> adola: the windows live cd?
[19:12] <Adola> siavash_: Yes.
[19:12] <siavash_> adola: yea
[19:12] <kanonmat_> Adola: "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu hardy main" is a hardy repo, it shouldnt be there
[19:12] <Adola> siavash_: However, if you are wanting to dual-boot.  Then why not write grub.ini?
[19:12] <Adola> using a unbutu or kubnut live CD
[19:12] <siavash_> adola: it doesn't recognize it
[19:13] <Adola> siavash_: What exactly are you doing?
[19:13] <siavash_> adola: here's the deal
[19:13] <siavash_> adola: I had 2 windows installations
[19:13] <siavash_> adola: i got rid of one and installed ubuntu in its place
[19:14] <siavash_> adola: now i can't boot into the other windows I had
[19:14] <lorecaster> hey all... been fighting with my video settings for about a week... now that i have soudn working fine, all my movies show the skin as blue, the blues as yellows, the yellows as greens... etc... ideas?
[19:14] <Adola> Do you have a ubuntu/kubuntu install disk?
[19:15] <siavash_> yes
[19:15] <siavash_> my ubuntu installations work well tho
[19:15] <Adola> siavash_: Can you run it as a live cd?
[19:15] <siavash_> yes
[19:15] <Adola> Well, just edit grub.
[19:15] <Adola> HOlon.
[19:15] <siavash_> it doesn't work
[19:15] <siavash_> i can's just point to it
[19:15] <siavash_> it won't load
[19:17] <kanonmat_> line 56 is a double, Adola and i think having both ubuntu and kubuntu repos is unnecessary
[19:17] <siavash_> adola: It's a bit more complicated than I said
[19:17] <themonster> anyone here a kunbuntu xpert?
[19:18] <Adola> siavash_: This MAY help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=952930
[19:18] <Drew31> siavash, I can't use the CL well at all, in a situation like yours, I would relaod grub.
[19:18] <siavash_> the situation is pretty complicated, here's the whole story
[19:19] <siavash_> adola: 1. I had windows vista, 2. I installed Ubuntu intrepid  3. I installed Win 7. 4. I reinstalled intrepid's grub
[19:19] <Adola> kanonmat_: Line 56 isn't a double?!
[19:19] <siavash_> at that point hardy's grub pointed to the vista partition
[19:19] <kanonmat_> lorecaster, i had that problem when i purged smplayer, after installing it again i had the right colors
[19:20] <Yalion> Anyone can help me how install this patches http://smplayer.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/smplayer/mplayer-builds/patches/ in Kubuntu 8.10 ?
[19:20] <siavash_> 5. I then deleted the vista and put jaunty on it
[19:20] <lorecaster> so Kanonmat, what are your instructions? :D i'm useless if left alone, at this early stage in my learning
[19:20] <Assurbanipal> hi guys, i have kubuntu 9,4 installed and face a problem. My desktop seems to go mad after a while, i cannot switch properly between windows or click on menus...anybody wiith an idea?
[19:20] <siavash_> so it's kind of a mess
[19:21] <kanonmat_> line 47 == line 56
[19:21] <kanonmat_> lorecaster: is there a "hue" setting in your media player?
[19:22] <Adola> kanonmat_: Oh :P
[19:22] <lorecaster> i use VLC
[19:22] <[nickname]> how do I set the default program for avi files?
[19:23] <Adola> [nickname]: Kickoffmenu>Settings>Defaultapplication
[19:24] <[nickname]> Adola: I can not select vidio files only email client embedded text editor file manger instant messenger terminal emulator web browser and window manager
[19:24] <lorecaster> kanon, but it is the same thing across ALL my players
[19:25] <kanonmat_> yes, i had that too, the only movie i could enjoy was "yellow submarine" :)
[19:25] <kanonmat_> im not sure it is the same problem
[19:26] <lorecaster> kanon, cute :P i just watched Ferris Beuler's Day Off and they looked like the cast from The Smurfs
[19:26] <Adola> [nickname]: Ok, do this...
[19:26] <[nickname]> I found it its under file accosiation
[19:26] <[nickname]> under the advanced tab
[19:26] <Adola> [nickname]: rightclick on the .avi.  >Properties>(The little)
[19:26] <Adola> Yes.  You found it :)
[19:29] <lorecaster> anyone else think they can help solve my cunnundrum?
[19:31] <kanonmat_> Adola: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUZOQsNo_ws
[19:31] <kanonmat_> i think there are better links, it was just a quick search
[19:33] <Assurbanipal> hi guys, i have kubuntu 9,4 installed and face a problem. My desktop seems to go mad after a while, i cannot switch properly between windows or click on menus...anybody wiith an idea?i have geforce 7800 gtx with latest nvidia driver installed
[19:35] <Adola> Thanks kanonmat_!
[19:35] <Adola> I'm going to start doing this stuf :)
[19:36] <kanonmat_> and adola, you might have some conflicts, you have many ppa repos, they may have conflicting pkgs
[19:36] <Adola> What do you recommend?
[19:37] <kanonmat_> i dont use ppa...
[19:37] <Adola> ......Adept won't open now. >.>  It just keeps crashing...Restart...BRB
[19:37] <kanonmat_> i think some repos should be disabled
[19:41] <Informatiker> hi, is there somebody who can help me with my problem?
[19:42] <genii> Informatiker: Please first describe the problem
[19:42] <Informatiker> ok, I just wanted to see, if there is someone, who reads the chat
[19:43] <Informatiker> I have a problem with my flashplayer-plugin
[19:43] <Informatiker> when I maximaze the player on youtube
[19:44] <Informatiker> it "jerking"
[19:44] <Informatiker> I dont know the word for it
[19:45] <Informatiker> Iam using firefox
[19:45] <pailor23_> Infomatiker: do you mean pixelated?
[19:46] <Informatiker> no, not pixelated, the picture ist well, its just "not so fast"
[19:47] <Informatiker> sry my english ist very bad -.-
[19:47] <Informatiker> iam searching for the word
[19:47] <usuario> SPANISH PLEASE
[19:47] <pailor23_> can you pause the movie and let the stream catch up to see if it is just insufficent bandwidth
[19:47] <Informatiker> I think "judder" is the right word
[19:48] <usuario> hola
[19:48] <Informatiker> ehm no, its not the bandwidth, because the problem only occurs, when I maximize the player
[19:48] <usuario> alguien habla español
[19:48] <victim> I use Opera and I also have juddery playback in fullscreen Flash
[19:48] <victim> it is missing frames
[19:48] <usuario> hola
[19:48] <Informatiker> hmm
[19:48] <p_quarles> !es | usuario
[19:49] <victim> I stopped using Flash in fullscreen and left it in a window
[19:49] <Informatiker> and you have no solution yet?
[19:50] <victim> no
[19:50] <Informatiker> thats no option for me, cause iam looking very oft videos with that player....
[19:50] <Informatiker> *often
[19:51] <Informatiker> nobody else has this problem?
[19:53] <pailor23_> Sorry, I avoid websites with Flash animation
[19:53] <genii> Here too
[19:54] <Informatiker> ok, another question
[19:54] <kanonmat_> i thought  the default was lower frames per second in fullscreen
[19:55] <Informatiker> which texteditor do you use to write programms
[19:55] <kanonmat_> gvim
[19:56] <kanonmat_> but i write mostly bash scripts
[19:56] <genii> Informatiker: For programming in KDE, the most used is KDevelop
[19:57] <pailor23_> What type of programs do you write?
[19:58] <Informatiker> python, c, java
[19:58] <Informatiker> html/xhtml
[19:58] <Informatiker> css
[19:58] <PhilRod> Informatiker: I have a similar problem with fullscreen flash animation. Are you using and nvidia card? I suspect it's an unfortunate interaction between the nvidia drivers and the flash player
[19:58] <PhilRod> s/and nvidia/an nvidia/
[19:59] <pailor23_> Look at Kate, it has syntax highliting for most of those
[19:59] <Informatiker> actualy iam using kate
[19:59] <Informatiker> but iam searching for alternatives
[19:59] <Informatiker> i will try kdevelop
[20:00] <PhilRod> Informatiker: I'm tempted to try the latest drivers (maybe the 185 beta ones, or at least the latest 180 ones)
[20:00] <PhilRod> hrm, I was going to wait till jaunty, but actually it makes as much sense to do it now, since I'm goign to reinstall this system
[20:00] <pailor23_> If you want wysiwyg html/css look at Quanta Plus
[20:01] <pailor23_> There are additional packages you need to install to get all of the syntax highlighting in Kate
[20:02] <Informatiker> PhilRot, so it does not work correct yet?
[20:02] <PhilRod> Informatiker: on the question of text editors, emacs and vim are popular (personally, I love emacs). Depends what sort of thing you're looking for
[20:02] <PhilRod> Informatiker: doesn't work for me with 180.11, but there are more recent drivers available that I haven't tried (so I hear)
[20:03] <Informatiker> syntax highlighting in kate works nice, but iam searching for autocomplet
[20:03] <Informatiker> *complete
[20:04] <Informatiker> how do you write personal-message?
[20:05] <pailor23_> double click on the nickname if you are using Quassel
[20:05] <Informatiker> xemacs is definitely not for me, cause we have to use it at the university, and i hate it ;-)
[20:06] <PhilRod> ugh, xemacs
[20:07] <Adola> kanonmat_: Ok, this is the error I'm getting now.. http://pastebin.com/d3c39b6e6
[20:07] <Adola> When I try to update.
[20:09] <theuser1> i have a 24/7 dsl and kubuntu as an os. i dont know how to do something. i mean i want o make some use of it... may be a webserver... or what else.can any one comment?
[20:09] <genii> Seed *buntu torrents
[20:09] <kanonmat_> you need the absolutely latest amarok?
[20:10] <Adola> kanonmat_: Well..I guess not.  If it's hurting me, then no.
[20:10] <kanonmat_> theuser1, play online games?
[20:10] <Adola> (I just added that to get amarok 2 before it came out.)
[20:10] <kanonmat_> its out now :)
[20:11] <theuser1> kanonmat_:  something constructive. a broader view.
[20:11] <kanonmat_> folding at home, seti?
[20:11] <Adola> kanonmat_: I know :P  is that repo messing me up?
[20:12] <kanonmat_> i think you could try without ppa repos, see what happens
[20:12] <Adola> how?
[20:12] <kanonmat_> especially the kde-experimental
[20:13] <kanonmat_> theuser1: seed free software torrents?
[20:14] <Informatiker> do someone know, why some users have graphic-artefacts in kde4? they come only for a half second, if a window opens
[20:14] <theuser1> and?
[20:15] <kanonmat_> amarok-nightly-kdebase is conflicting with amarok-nightly-kdesupport...
[20:16] <steevz> What is/are the greatest games native to linux?
[20:17] <Adola> kanonmat_: So, ow would I fix that?
[20:17] <Informatiker> the greatest game? supertux maybe ^^
[20:18] <kanonmat_> disable the repos in ur package manager or comment out the lines with a #
[20:18] <kanonmat_> i play nexuiz, 2.5 is out now its fantastic
[20:19] <kanonmat_> its not in repos i think, i dl, unzip and play
[20:19] <kanonmat_> neverball is fun
[20:19] <Informatiker> in think its in repos: nexuiz - A fast-paced 3D first-person shooter
[20:20] <kanonmat_> is it 2.5?
[20:20] <kanonmat_> i think its the 2.4.2
[20:20] <Informatiker> i dont know, i have not installed it
[20:21] <sithlord48> i can't set a static ip w/ knetwork manager need help setting one...
[20:21] <kanonmat_> what programming language do u use, Informatiker
[20:21] <kanonmat_> t?
[20:21] <kanonmat_> sithlord48: use ifconfig and route
[20:21] <Adola> kanonmat_: Gah.  I'm sorry, I just can't do this :/  I can't find an amarok knightly anything in sources.list.
[20:22] <sithlord48> kanomat, ok i will give them a shot
[20:22] <Informatiker> kanonmat, sry i dont understand your question, use programming language for what?
[20:22] <kanonmat_> amarok-nightly... is not a repo :)
[20:23] <Adola> Ughghghg....How do I disable it?
[20:24] <kanonmat_> language support (autocompletion and highlight) is different in different editors
[20:24] <jojo> wow
[20:26] <sithlord48> kanomat, can you give an example of how to set the ip w/ ifconfig after i bring the interface down ?
[20:26] <genii> sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.101 up
[20:26] <Informatiker> ah, ok, I use python/django, c, java, xhtml, css
[20:27] <sithlord48> genii, will that stick apon reboot ?
[20:27] <genii> sithlord48: No
[20:27] <sithlord48> genii, how can i get it to stick ?
[20:28] <genii> sithlord48: If you want some more permanent way, edit the /etc/network/interfaces file. The help page of:    man interfaces      shows some examples
[20:28] <sithlord48> genii, that is i think what i am looking for thanks..
[20:28] <genii> sithlord48: Also you cqan do it instead from your router with semi static dhcp by mac address
[20:29] <kanonmat_> i hear quanta should be good for web developing
[20:29] <sithlord48> genii, my crappy linksys Wrt54G don't let me do that
[20:30] <genii> sithlord48: The fast way at this moment is the interfaces file then. You can also btw install alternate firmware onto those routers (google freewrt or tomato or so on)
[20:31] <Adola> So....kanonmat:  What..>Do you recommend?  To fix this?
[20:31] <sithlord48> genii, whats odd is my eth0 does not even have an entry in the file i only see loopback connections...
[20:31] <kanonmat_> comment out the ppa lines, remove pkgs that are installed from ppa
[20:32] <kanonmat_> would be the clean thing to do
[20:32] <genii> sithlord48: If you have an entry in that file, the gui network manager does nothing with it (believes the connection has been manually configured). If no entry in there, gui network manager can use it
[20:33] <kanonmat_> default repos would be much easier to handle, if you really want to experiment with repos you should read the manual for a lot of things
[20:34] <kanonmat_> like man aptitude, man apt-cache, man dpkg
[20:35] <sithlord48> genii, that makes sence cause up untill last night the gui's static setting was working just fine
[20:35] <kanonmat_> this is for debian:http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html
[20:35] <kanonmat_> learn such things
[20:35] <Adola> kanonmat_: Well, how do I get rid of knightly?
[20:36] <genii> sithlord48: If you edit interfaces file, gui will still use that connection, just the network manager won't show it, etc
[20:36] <kanonmat_> hmm, idk if it comes through svn...
[20:36] <sithlord48> genii, thats cool how to i restart the network w/ the new settings ?
[20:37] <genii> sithlord48: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:37] <kanonmat_> do: apt-cache policy amarok..... ( fill in the correct name)
[20:37] <kanonmat_> it will show wht repo it came from
[20:40] <Adola> kanonmat_: http://pastebin.com/d6a6f950a
[20:40] <kanonmat_> hehe: man sources.list only gives me debian information, no ubuntu specifics :)
[20:41] <usuario> hola tengo dudas
[20:41] <usuario> alguien me puede echar una manita
[20:41] <kanonmat_> thats the default amarok, Adola,
[20:42] <kanonmat_> !es| usuario
[20:42] <kanonmat_> no hablo espanol, usuario
[20:42] <steevz> I was running apt-get in konsole, how do I kill/cancel it?
[20:43] <kanonmat_> control -c kills
[20:43] <kanonmat_> in general
[20:43] <kanonmat_> wait
[20:43] <kanonmat_> is it frozen?
[20:44] <steevz> No.
[20:44] <sithlord48_> genii, nice got it all working gotta love ssh makes working other machines so much quicker :)
[20:44] <steevz> I was going to download Nexuiz but it was going like 10kb/s right now.
[20:44] <steevz> so I want to stop it so I can install something else..
[20:44] <kanonmat_> i suggest you let it run, steevz
[20:45] <genii> sithlord48: Glad you got it sorted out :)  I like also with ssh the -C, -v, and sometimes -X options....
[20:45] <steevz> well, I closed the konsole it was running in, and I tihnk it's running in the background.
[20:45] <kanonmat_> oh, nexuiz is large, will take a while..
[20:45] <steevz> any way to check?
[20:45] <steevz> yeah, that is why I want to cancel it for now.
[20:45] <sithlord48_> genii, was annoying me yesterday i just started getting strange mount error from nfs.. when i turned on my computer...
[20:46] <genii> sithlord48: Make sure nfs mount options include "sync" so it writes immediately and not caches info before writing it.
[20:46] <kanonmat_> im not sure if it will break something, steevz
[20:47] <sithlord48_> genii, thank you for suggesting how ever i already do use sync
[20:47] <sithlord48_> genii, is sync nessessary for ro clients as well
[20:47] <genii> sithlord48: For ro, not neccesary
[20:48] <sithlord48_> genii, figured since there is no writing but i seen a guide that was using sync for ro and i figured i can't hurt
[20:48] <steevz> well, I just removed /var/lib/dpkg/lock is that bad?
[20:49] <sithlord48_> genii, have you been a kubuntu user long ?
[20:49] <kanonmat_> Adola: locate amarok-nightly-kdesupport_20090419+svn956240-0neon1_i386.deb
[20:49] <genii> sithlord48: Since version 4.10 or so. Before then other Linux like RH, and other OS
[20:50] <Adola> kanonmat_: I ran that in terminal..But...I didn't do anything else.
[20:50] <kanonmat_> so apt-get isnt running, steevz?
[20:50] <jarek_> Hi everyone. My pal just lent me an install disk for kubuntu and after years of using windows I thought, what the hell time for a change. Loving it so far =D
[20:50] <kanonmat_> have you downloaded a .deb somewhere, adola?
[20:51] <Adola> kanonmat_: Huh?  I don't think so?
[20:51] <kanonmat_> !hi
[20:51] <sithlord48_> genii, the first ubuntu i used was 5.04 for ppc (on a G3 mac) but i have been using linux on and off since earily redhat
[20:52] <steevz> No, it wasn't. Said it was still locked after I had closed the konsole.
[20:52] <kanonmat_> Project Neon is the nightly amarok, Adola
[20:52] <sithlord48_> genii, just finally made the switch permently no more dual boots run xp in a vm for what i need it for and then just win32 games become a problem
[20:52] <Adola> kanonmat_: Yes?
[20:52] <kanonmat_> steevz: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[20:53] <steevz> Thnaks.
[20:53] <genii> sithlord48: I'm primarily on Kubuntu these days, no dual boot on my laptop...on my desktop I run multiple OS.  (But we grow also offtopic with this.. ;)    )
[20:53] <kanonmat_> so, put a "#" infront of the Project Neon lines in sources.list
[20:55] <usuario> hola alguien habla español
[20:56] <kanonmat_> steevz: if you want nexuiz: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4821677/Nexuiz_2.5
[20:56] <Adola> WEEEEEEEEE!
[20:56] <Adola> THANKS kanonmat_!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:56] <kanonmat_> im not sure if that was ot...
[20:56]  * Adola prances about!
[20:56] <kanonmat_> your welcome
[20:57] <genii> usuario: /join #ubuntu-es o /join #kubuntu-es
[20:57]  * Adola begins building a kanonmat_ statue in #kubuntu
[20:58] <kanonmat_> ty, i screenshotted it :)
[20:58] <Adola> hehe!
[20:58] <kanonmat_> now: read up on package management and how apt works :)
[20:59] <triune> oi
[21:00] <triune> anyone know how to compress a folder to a .jar in kde 4.2?
[21:00] <triune> tryin to build/hack my first firefox theme
[21:02] <triune> nm
[21:02] <triune> fastjar seems to do the job :)
[21:05] <kaddi> !jaunty
[21:15] <usuario> hola alguien habla español
[21:15] <kaddi> !es |usuario
[21:40] <kaddi> someone familiar with thunderbird? it is not showing certain emails and i don't know why it stopped showing them. :/
[21:40] <kaddi> i can read them fine if i hit "reply" and read the cited text
[21:41] <fujimitsu> konqueror tells me shortcut to open new tab is ctrl-shift-N but ctrl-T does it too. it doesnt say that tho
[21:42] <fujimitsu> am using kde4.2.2
[21:43] <kanonmat_> ctrl-shift-N doesnt open a new window?
[21:44] <fujimitsu> it does. but why do that when ctrl-T is quicker anyway
[21:44] <kanonmat_> a tab is not a window :) so the dokumentaion on konqueror is wrong?
[21:45] <kanonmat_> !launchpad
[21:45] <fujimitsu> let me rephrase .. actually.. both shortcuts do the same thing , that is, open a new TAB
[21:47] <kanonmat_> ok, then you have an extra shortcut :)
[21:47] <fujimitsu> but it is not documented
[21:47] <fujimitsu> how many other undocumented shortcuts are in this konqueror
[21:47] <theuser1>  i need a free vnc software for both windows xp and kubuntu. i what to make windows and kubuntu both as some times client and some times server. need ecryptiiiiionn say ssh if possible. please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_remote_desktop_software if you want to ?
[21:47] <kanonmat_> maybe you could post in the kde forums
[21:48] <fujimitsu> yah
[21:48] <kaddi> fujimitsu maybe you are forcing new windows to be opened as tabs
[21:48] <kaddi> ?
[21:48] <kaddi> i know this option exists for other browsers, might be the same thing?
[21:48] <fujimitsu> on a default set up?
[21:48] <kanonmat_> is this documentation in english?
[21:49] <kaddi> no, probably not ;)
[21:49] <onlooker> Hello. Can anyone tell me the bash command that shows you where symbolic links link to?
[21:49] <kanonmat_> ls -l
[21:49] <onlooker> Thank you
[21:49] <fujimitsu> kanonmat_:  yes, english
[21:50] <onlooker> Another question I have is, how would I go about mounting my friend's HDD? It says it can't find it in fstab or mtab, but it is connected
[21:50] <fujimitsu> kanonmat_: what version of kde are you using
[21:50] <kanonmat_> i use kde3.5.9
[21:51] <fujimitsu> could you check if you can do this new tab thing on your konqueror
[21:51] <kaddi> fujimitsu I can actually reproduce this on a kde 4.2.2 in german though it might not be default...
[21:51] <kanonmat_> it opens a new window with ctrl-shift-N
[21:51] <kaddi> force new windows as tabs is one of the first settings i usually change, this is how i got the idee
[21:51] <kaddi> idea
[21:52] <kanonmat_> onlooker: look in /dev/    there it should be a new entry
[21:52] <kanonmat_> like sdb or something
[21:52] <onlooker> kanonmat_: It is. /dev/sdb
[21:53] <fujimitsu> i see.. what ticked me was that ctrl-T is not documented as a 'open new tab' shortcut..  meh
[21:54] <kanonmat_> do like: sudo mkdir /mnt/otherhdd ; mount /dev/sdb /mnt/otherhdd
[21:54] <noren> i m tired of this dropping of network help some one
[21:54] <kanonmat_> depending on filesystems you might give options to mount
[21:54] <kaddi> fujimitsu all shortcuts should be shown in the "settings for shortcuts" it's the third option from the bottom in the settings-menu
[21:55] <kaddi> both options ctrl-T and ctrl-shitf-N are mentioned there
[21:55] <onlooker> kanonmat_: All I know is, it's a windows HDD. So, I'm guessing fat or ntfs
[21:56] <kanonmat_> ok, let mount guess first, if it doesnt work you can set something
[21:57] <onlooker> kanonmat_: Says I must specify the filesystem type
[21:58] <kanonmat_> mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb /mnt/otherhdd
[21:58] <kanonmat_> or vfat
[21:59] <onlooker> If it's vfat it says it can't read superblock
[21:59] <fujimitsu> yes, saw it there, kanonmat_, as the alternate way, but i still think they should have chosen ctrl-T as default and not alternate.. oh well.. done ranting.. good thing is, it works
[21:59] <onlooker> NTFS is slightly longer, I'll pastebin it
[21:59] <onlooker> kanonmat_: http://pastebin.com/m4086aeb9
[22:01] <theuser1> genii:  i need a free vnc software for both windows xp and kubuntu. i what to make windows and kubuntu both as some times client and some times server. need ecryptiiiiionn say ssh if possible. please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_remote_desktop_software if you want to ?
[22:01] <onlooker> kanonmat_: If it helps you explain anything, the owner was toying around with locking his HDD (I didn't even know you could do that) and forgot his pass
[22:02] <onlooker> Now I'm trying to salvage it, somehow
[22:03] <Dragnslcr> theuser1- I know x11vnc supports SSL, and SSVNC is a Windows client that supports SSL. For a Windows server, I just use the built-in Remote Desktop
[22:03] <kanonmat_> ah
[22:03] <trylik> hi, did someone managed to get 3g over bluetooth connection working with knetworkmanager?
[22:03] <genii> theuser1: For the linux side I recommend xtightvncserver for the server, xtightvncviewer for the client. For the Windows side TightVNC is also available
[22:04] <theuser1>  i want to make windows and kubuntu both as some times client and some times server
[22:04] <genii> theuser1:
[22:04] <kanonmat_> i dont know how lock works, i guess i should be possible to atleast format it, but idk
[22:04] <genii> theuser1: If you want to tunnel over ssh then you will also need putty for the wondows part
[22:04] <Dragnslcr> theuser1- there's no such thing as "sometimes clients and sometimes server"
[22:04] <Dragnslcr> theuser1- you run the server on both computers, and can run a client on both computers
[22:05] <theuser1> genii: ic
[22:05] <theuser1> Dragnslcr: ya
[22:05] <theuser1> thats what i mean
[22:05] <onlooker> kanonmat_: Yeah, formatting it is plan B, which is quickly becoming the obvious choice
[22:06] <theuser1> genii: i think there is no xtightvncserver/viewer in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_remote_desktop_software ?
[22:06] <genii> !info xtightvncserver
[22:06] <genii> !info tightvncserver
[22:06] <Mez> hmm, anyone using a Quick Access Plasmoid ? I need to see if the shortcut key bit works for others... as it doesnt work for me
[22:06] <fujimitsu> all system crash reports are in root>var>crash?
[22:06] <kanonmat_> maybe you can run testdisk on it?
[22:07] <theuser1> genii: so its tight ... same brand fffor windows and linux?
[22:07] <genii> theuser1: Yes
[22:07] <theuser1> TightVNC 	RFB(VNC) 	GPL
[22:08] <theuser1> hm.. ok
[22:08] <theuser1> genii: you used it? i hope you liked it
[22:08] <Dragnslcr> I would just use regular RDP for Windows
[22:08] <genii> theuser1: I have previously used it. These days I do not use gui remote, but just ssh
[22:08] <Dragnslcr> Krdc is a really nice client for RDP and VNC
[22:09] <kanonmat_> onlooker: maybe http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page can do something
[22:09] <onlooker> kanonmat_: Looks promising. I'll look into it
[22:09] <theuser1> Dragnslcr: ya but cant use that on windows as client. or server. i thought i would use same brand on both os to be compatible.
[22:10] <theuser1> genii: ok
[22:10] <Dragnslcr> There's an RDP server for Ubuntu. I've never used it though
[22:10] <theuser1> hm
[22:10] <Dragnslcr> And there's no need to use the same "brand" for compatibility
[22:11] <Dragnslcr> The two server programs will never be connected to each other
[22:11] <Dragnslcr> !info xrdp
[22:11] <theuser1> genii: cant understand b/w vnc and rdp
[22:11] <kanonmat_> brb
[22:12] <theuser1> Dragnslcr: i say krdc is ffffffor linux. its not in  any fffform. server or client in windows. thats my point
[22:12] <Dragnslcr> theuser1- so? Windows already has an RDP client
[22:12] <theuser1> genii: cant understand difffffeence * b/w vnc and rdp
[22:13] <theuser1> Dragnslcr: which one?
[22:13] <Dragnslcr> theuser1- uh, the one that comes with Windows?
[22:13] <fujimitsu> where are the crash reports stored
[22:14] <theuser1> Dragnslcr: windows has built in rdp suport. but no vnc support?
[22:14] <kanonmat_> locate crash?
[22:14] <Dragnslcr> theuser1- yes, because there's no point in having both
[22:15] <theuser1> Dragnslcr: ok
[22:15] <Dragnslcr> And from my personal experience, RDP is a better protocol than VNC
[22:15] <fujimitsu> kanonmat_: i was expecting to find it in root/var/crash  but nothing there
[22:15] <theuser1> Dragnslcr: cant understand difffffeence * b/w vnc and rdp
[22:16] <theuser1> Dragnslcr: rfb=vnc ?
[22:16] <Dragnslcr> Not sure. I know RFB (Remote FrameBuffer) usually uses the VNC protocol, but I don't know if that's part of the definition
[22:17] <Dragnslcr> Never mind, other way around. VNC uses the RFB protocol
[22:18] <theuser1> Dragnslcr: cant understand difffffeence * b/w vnc and rdp
[22:20] <onlooker> kanonmat_: Okay, I'm off to try and salvage the thing. bbl
[22:47] <mounjid> salut
[22:47] <mounjid> ça va?
[22:51] <fujimitsu> when i lock the screen on kde.4.2.2 if i move the mouse right away, i can still see the desktop (it remains locked though).  bug or feature?
[22:55] <onlooker> kanonmat_: No dice. How do I wipe the drive? Do I use dd?
[22:56] <kanonmat_> gparted i would think
[22:57] <kanonmat_> maybe it just needs to have the mbr wiped
[22:57] <kanonmat_> im no expert, i think there should be ways to salvage data
[22:58] <kanonmat_> good luck
[22:58] <darich> question, anyone know how to get Amarok 2.1 beta on jaunty?
[22:59] <kanonmat_> there are special repos, darich
[22:59] <darich> ah
[22:59] <darich> yes I think I've tried those
[22:59] <darich> the experimental ones
[22:59] <darich> don't seem to work :(
[23:00] <kanonmat_> i guess svn then
[23:00] <darich> noooooo
[23:00] <kanonmat_> or dl a tarball and compile
[23:00] <darich> ;)
[23:00] <darich> *hates compiling*
[23:00] <darich> as you say no choice
[23:00] <darich> last thing I compiled was Banshee
[23:01] <kanonmat_> it builds not only binaries, it builds charachter :)
[23:01] <darich> lol
[23:01] <onlooker> kanonmat_: gparted, huh? Will try
[23:01] <kanonmat_> idk, then, darich
[23:01] <darich> actually building Amarok 1.4 to support my Rio Karma was an adventure
[23:02] <kanonmat_> onlooker: you might wan to google for answers
[23:02] <darich> dependency after dependency
[23:02] <darich> :S
[23:02] <kaddi> how can i change the favorite tht are shown in k-menu in kde 4.
[23:02] <kaddi> 2
[23:02] <kaddi> ?
[23:03] <kanonmat_> isnt the fav the on you used most, or used last?
[23:03] <kaddi> no, after a year of use it still shows the same 6 programs, 4 of which i have never used
[23:04] <kaddi> but i just noticed that it can be added via rightclick on the programs in k-menu
[23:04] <kanonmat_> maybe you could try the alternative menu
[23:05] <kanonmat_> im on kde3 right now
[23:05] <zer0o> hi is there a combination of keys to recall the "process table"? in case an application gets stuck, is there a ctrl + alt + canc like it was for win? thanks
[23:05] <onlooker> kanonmat_: Been googling it before I came here, actually
[23:06] <onlooker> It didn't look good then, either
[23:06] <kanonmat_> zer0o: i think there is ksysguard
[23:07] <zer0o> kanonmat_: yes but how do i recall to it with a combination of keys?
[23:07] <kanonmat_> you can make your own shortcut for it, or make it the same as in windows
[23:07] <kanonmat_> in settings
[23:07] <kaddi> ctrl-esc should show you something similar to task manager
[23:07] <kanonmat_> i use htop in a konsole, it looks great and is very easy to use
[23:08] <kanonmat_> i bound ctrl-esc to ksysguard
[23:09] <kaddi> in kde4.2 its set by default :)
[23:09] <zer0o> kanonmat_: thatz exactly what i was looking for
[23:09] <zer0o> ctrl + ESC
[23:09] <zer0o> great
[23:09] <zer0o> now im not gettin stuck in things and being forced to reboot anymore :D
[23:09] <zer0o> i tried everything alt + f4, ctrl alt canc, esc f1 f2 f3 etc... nothing
[23:09] <zer0o> ctrl esc will work indeed
[23:10] <kaddi> ctrl-alt-esc gives you a red cross which will kill the program you klick on next
[23:10] <kanonmat_> in console you can do lots of things, like: killall stupidappthatsfrozen
[23:10] <kanonmat_> killall -9 really kills it
[23:12] <zer0o> i stupidly killed konversation with that cross :D
[23:12] <zer0o> du no if it works also while ur using an app?
[23:12] <zer0o> i.e.: i was playing open arena, while i was trying to create a server, it got stuck and i had to reboot, du think it'll work there?
[23:13] <zer0o> where do i find these commands anyway?
[23:13] <kaddi> here? :D
[23:14] <zer0o> kaddi: ur such a character :D
[23:15] <kaddi> zer0o have a look at this: Interner Fehle 2753. Updater.api_NON_OPT
[23:15] <kaddi> argh
[23:15] <kaddi> sek
[23:15] <kaddi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50794
[23:17] <kaddi> zer0o I mainly use google for this kind of thing and if I can't find the answer I ask here... so my answer was partly serious ;) I'm sure there is a nice summary somweher, I just haven't found it yet ;)
[23:20] <onlooker> Ugh. It's late. Night everyone. Thanks for your help, kanonmat_
[23:20] <kanonmat_> have fun :)
[23:27] <kaddi> i would like to assign the page-up, page-down function to two keys on my keyboards, which are currently not in use. is there any easy way to do this?
[23:28] <kanonmat_> settings and keyboard shortcuts
[23:28] <kanonmat_> do the keys work?
[23:30] <kaddi> mechanically yes. they work fine with windows. They are designed to feature the € and $ symbol which I find particulalrly useless, this feature does not work out the box with kubuntu
[23:30] <kaddi> i remapped the keys for windows and would like to do the same in ubuntu
[23:31] <gio> hi guys
[23:32] <gio> I have a question about audio in kubuntu 9.04
[23:32] <gio> anyone here that can give some help?
[23:33] <gio> I updated from ubuntu 8.10
[23:33] <kaddi> !jaunty
[23:33] <gio> perfect
[23:33] <gio> thanks
[23:33] <gio> going there
[23:33] <kaddi> your welcome :)
[23:33] <CoJaBo-Aztec> April 23? :)
[23:33] <gio> didn't see the statement in the title ^_^
[23:34] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Is it possible to upgrade without a reinstall?
[23:34] <kaddi> they do a good job hiding it up there, don't they? ;)
[23:34] <CoJaBo-Aztec> lol
[23:34] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Nobody ever reads the topic :P
[23:34] <Ciros> lulz
[23:35] <Ciros> read, wassat?
[23:42] <stinger> hi all
[23:42] <kaddi> hi :)
[23:42] <rejohn> Hi. :) You are all invited to join the global KUbuntu Voice meeting live right now, at the #BerkeleyTIP channel on freenode.net.  http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/   BerkeleyTIP - All Free SW HW & Culture Global Group - Talks Installfest Potluck Project/ProgrammingParty -  Join IRC & we'll help you get onto the VOIP conference. Use Ekiga SIP phone & you'll need a headset with mic. Any questions?
[23:43] <stinger> looks cool
[23:43] <kaddi> kanonmat_ the keys are not recognized when I try to enter them via settings, just tried :(
[23:43] <kaddi> any other way?
[23:43] <kanonmat_> run xev in console
[23:44] <kanonmat_> have the little window in focus
[23:44] <kanonmat_> look at the keycode for the key
[23:44] <kanonmat_> then i guess you could set something up with xmodmap
[23:48] <MrMac2> hi, are the kde 4.2.2 package broken?
[23:48] <MrMac2> i added them, but no the installer tells me that it has unmet dependencies
[23:49] <MrMac2> what package FOO should i use to install 4.2.2? apt-get instll FOO
[23:56] <kaddi> xev also isn't registering anything for those keys... doesn't look good o.o