[00:08] <wgrant> savvas: Ubuntu packages will never disappear.
[00:09] <wgrant> savvas: And in general, if something's on the Internet for more than a day or two, it can never be got rid of.
[00:13] <savvas> wgrant: hm? :)
[00:13] <savvas> ah ok
[00:13] <savvas> noted!
[00:15] <savvas> I finally said to them that it will just "fade away", since their name wasn't in newer package releases as far as I've understood
[01:36] <Laney> What does "  Build for superseded Source" mean?
[01:37] <Ampelbein> Laney: What package? This could mean you have a build-depend on libfoo-dev (<=0.10) but libfoo-dev 0.11 is now in the archive thus superseeding your build-dep)
[01:38] <Laney> Ampelbein: Asterisk
[01:38] <Laney> it's on the build status page for old releases
[01:38] <Laney> package releases, that is
[01:38] <Laney> Ampelbein: See https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/asterisk/1:1.4.21.2~dfsg-2ubuntu2 for an example
[01:47] <Ampelbein> Laney: hmm. seems that the build finished when next version was already uploaded. perhaps the lpia builds were stalled and when the package finally got built, -3ubuntu1 was already uploaded?
[02:03] <wgrant> Laney: It means that the build wasn't started before its source was superseded.
[02:03] <wgrant> Laney: So either the buildds were behind, or a new source was uploaded very soon after the first one.
[02:04] <Laney> wgrant: There is a gap of about 2 months between one of the uploads where it says this
[02:07] <wgrant> Laney: Possibly it FTBFS, and there was a give back.
[02:08] <wgrant> Or the build was doing Bad Things, and somebody killed the build manually.
[02:08] <Laney> it definitely ftbfs
[02:08] <Laney> But several uploads in a row for asterisk lpia say this, just made me curious
[02:08] <wgrant> Laney: That could be it, then - if there was a mass give-back, there would have been a window of a few days where a new upload would have caused that.
[02:09]  * wgrant looks at these builds.
[02:10] <wgrant> That build was queued on 2008-12-22, which was the day a new upload occurred. So that's reasonable.
[11:06] <savvas> does the launchpad name (not username, name) have to match the gpg key name when uploading a package to a PPA?
[11:07] <hyperair> no.
[11:07] <hyperair> as long as you've registered your key in launchpad
[11:07] <hyperair> it'll match by the hash string
[11:07] <savvas> ah cool :P
[11:16] <stefanlsd> Is it possible to delete a ppa?  (not package ,but archive)
[11:17] <hyperair> stefanlsd: i believe it is, but i haven't tried.
[11:18] <stefanlsd> hyperair: i cant find a delete button...
[11:18] <hyperair> hmm
[11:19] <LarstiQ> stefanlsd: I think that amounts to filing a question on the launchpad product
[11:20] <hyperair> ah
[11:22] <stefanlsd> seems silly that you cant do it yourself?
[11:39] <savvas> why would you open a ppa and then close it? I think it's to track down when and where it happened :)
[11:40] <savvas> so people who were using it, don't come asking "where did that ppa go?" hehe
[11:42] <stefanlsd> savvas: mm. in this case i thought i would prefer a different short name.  not the end of the world tho
[11:43] <LarstiQ> stefanlsd: shouldn't that be easy to change without having to delete it?
[11:44] <savvas> I think the first ppa is always "ppa"
[11:46] <stefanlsd> LarstiQ: seems like you can change the name that is displayed, but cant change where directory on disk.  ie.   +archive/name
[11:46] <LarstiQ> stefanlsd: which makes sense, otherwise apt would break
[11:49] <hyperair> savvas: no i think that back when you could only have one ppa per person/team, it didn't have names, and this got transitioned as a ppa named "ppa".
[11:53] <savvas> hyperair: just checking it out on staging.launchpad.net with a newly created team, for the first ppa you can just enter the display name :)
[11:53] <hyperair> =)
[11:54] <savvas> the second one however, you can name it hyperair-goodies :P
[11:55] <hyperair> heh i see
[13:16] <MagicFab> Is anyone getting timeouts on launchpad.net ? THere's no mention of downtime at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/launchpad-announce/2009-April/thread.html
[14:27] <thewrath> hey anyone awake yet?
[14:27] <thewrath> i have a question with bzr and launchpad
[14:28] <thewrath> when i select when i commit it is for certain bugs and it says 'tag:id' i am confused on what i am suppoesd to enter there
[16:04] <savvas> does anyone know how to use the email interface of launchpad? can I do that through gmail?
[16:04] <savvas> e.g. I've sent a message to bug 286529 "milestone 0.3.0" and it just sent it as a comment
[16:24] <savvas> ah ok, got it, <space>command
[16:54] <seiflotfy1> hi guys
[16:54] <seiflotfy1> i am behind a proxy
[16:54] <seiflotfy1> how can i push and pull from behind a proxy
[16:55] <LarstiQ> what kind of proxy? what are your difficulties?
[16:56] <seiflotfy1> i need to set up a http https and ftp rpoxy to browse
[16:56] <seiflotfy1> the internet
[16:57] <seiflotfy1> however they r not used by bzr
[16:58] <LarstiQ> seiflotfy1: bzr respects the 'http_proxy' environment variable.
[16:59] <seiflotfy1> so if i set it in the shell it is supposed ot espect it
[16:59] <seiflotfy1> ?
[16:59] <seiflotfy1> i already set it in my environemnt
[17:00] <seiflotfy1> it does not
[17:00] <LarstiQ> seiflotfy1: how did you set it?
[17:01] <seiflotfy1> via  System -> Preferences -> Network Proxy
[17:01] <LarstiQ> so what is the value of the http_proxy variable?
[17:02] <seiflotfy1> proxy.tu-darmstadt.de:80
[17:02] <LarstiQ> seiflotfy1: prefix that with http://
[17:02] <seiflotfy1> it works for everything else though
[17:03] <seiflotfy1> it wont allow me to do that in the netwrok proxy
[17:04] <seiflotfy1> export http_proxy=http://proxy.tu-darmstadt.de:80
[17:04] <seiflotfy1> seif@Schroeder:~/Projects/gnome-zeitgeist$ bzr pull
[17:04] <seiflotfy1> Using saved parent location: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gnome-zeitgeist/gnome-zeitgeist/gnome-zeitgeist/
[17:04] <seiflotfy1> /      0kB @    0kB/s
[17:04] <seiflotfy1> doens not do anything
[17:07] <LarstiQ> seiflotfy1: you're using bzr+ssh there, that won't go through an http proxy
[17:08] <seiflotfy1> how do i change it
[17:08]  * LarstiQ wouldn't
[17:08] <seiflotfy1> huh?
[17:08] <LarstiQ> seiflotfy1: can you ssh out at all?
[17:08] <LarstiQ> seiflotfy1: blocking port 22 would be very evil
[17:08] <seiflotfy1> nope
[17:08] <seiflotfy1> cant ssh
[17:08] <seiflotfy1> :(
[17:08] <LarstiQ> ...
[17:09] <hyperair> use tsocks.
[17:09] <seiflotfy1> huh?
[17:09] <hyperair> dpkg-divert /usr/bin/ssh
[17:09] <hyperair> cat > /usr/bin/ssh <<EOF
[17:09] <hyperair> #!/bin/sh
[17:09] <hyperair> tsocks /usr/bin/ssh.dist
[17:10] <hyperair> whoops
[17:10] <hyperair> i meant tsocks /usr/bin/ssh.dist "$@"
[17:10] <hyperair> actually i'm not sure how to use tsocks
[17:11] <hyperair> hmm
[17:11] <spiv> seiflotfy1: you can pull from bazaar.launchpad.net via http, just replace "bzr+ssh" with "http" in the URL
[17:11] <spiv> seiflotfy1: you can't push to it via http, though.
[17:12]  * spiv goes to bed
[17:12] <hyperair> make noise regarding port 22
[17:12] <hyperair> that's what some ubuntu-my member did in his uni
[17:38] <cl2> hi, can anybody tell me how i add release tarbars to a release series?
[17:39] <cl2> under "Seriers trunk" i see a "Releases" table header, but i can't see an option to add releases there
[17:41] <beuno> cl2, you have to create a milestone first
[17:41] <beuno> that's being fixed very very soon
[17:41] <beuno> but that's the way to do it the next few weeks
[17:42] <cl2> beuno: ah ok, thanks! :-)
[19:41] <Hohoo> Hello
[19:42] <jimi_hendrix> is launchpad down again
[19:42] <Hohoo> Yes.
[19:42] <intellectronica> really?!
[19:43] <Hohoo> And apparently Openshot video editor has no other place to get the source.
[19:43] <intellectronica> jimi_hendrix, Hohoo: works fine for me. what's the problem?
[19:44] <jimi_hendrix> heh up now
[19:44] <jimi_hendrix> i went to a page earlier and it didnt load
[19:44] <jimi_hendrix> a refresh a few seconds ago didnt fix it
[19:44] <intellectronica> jimi_hendrix: what do you mean by "didn't load"?
[19:44] <jimi_hendrix> 'We are sorry, we are having an issue' message or whatever it says
[19:45] <Hohoo> Any Launchpad admins here?
[19:45] <intellectronica> jimi_hendrix: URL?
[19:46] <jimi_hendrix> intellectronica, it works now
[19:46] <intellectronica> Hohoo: i think spm is the next one and he won't be up for a bit
[19:46] <intellectronica> jimi_hendrix: i know, but i still would like to know what is the URL that didn't work
[19:49] <Hohoo> Hey, has anybody got a copy of the Openshot video editor sources?
[19:49] <jimi_hendrix> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jimi-hendrix/comserv/main/files
[19:49] <jimi_hendrix> ^^ still wont work
[19:50] <intellectronica> jimi_hendrix: ah, the source viewer never works very well. this is not uncommon. we're working on it
[19:51] <jimi_hendrix> ok
[19:51] <intellectronica> kiko!
[19:59] <Hohoo> Is there any alternative to the source viewer?
[20:02] <Hohoo> It works now.
[20:04] <LarstiQ> Hohoo: you don't need the source viewer to branch the code
[20:05] <Hohoo> I'm not familiar with Bazaar.
[20:06] <LarstiQ> Hohoo: what do you want to do with the code?
[20:07] <Hohoo> I want to get the source. I think I got it, but why on Earth did they choose "branch"?
[20:09] <intellectronica> Hohoo: you don't need to use the viewer to get the source. you want to use bzr
[20:09] <mdke> Hohoo: trees have them
[20:09] <intellectronica> Hohoo: and 'branch' is pretty standard terminology in version control systems, especially distributed ones
[20:13] <LarstiQ> right