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superm1so all it's doing is adding a 24bit fbconfig whenever you are operating in 32 bit mode now rather than a 8, 16, 24, and 32 in any mode00:09
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slangaseksuperm1: sure, that makes sense00:24
superm1the guy hasn't responded since i sent that updated patch though, but it's !weekend anyhow, so i'll wait some more00:25
slangaseksuperm1: how much longer?  I think I'd be unwilling to accept this in the release pocket after Monday morning00:29
slangasek(UTC)00:29
slangasekso maybe we should just plan right now to make this an SRU?00:30
superm1slangasek, yeah if we dont have this sorted out by the end of the weekend, i agree make an SRU00:31
ScottKMuch faster doing upgrades today than on the day the RC was released ....00:32
LaserJockdoes piuparts work in Ubuntu these days?00:40
LaneyI think so00:42
Laneythere was a talk at UDW on it00:43
ScottKIIRC liw is the puiparts expert.00:44
LaserJockI was just reading some sponsorship requirements from a DD and they included piuparts00:46
LaserJockand I wondered how realistic it is to run piuparts over every upload00:46
ScottKI've never been asked to do that.00:48
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BefolkedHi.03:08
BefolkedI'm not sure if this is the right channel, but..03:08
BefolkedAccording to this bug report, my issue is fixed in Hardy (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/linux/+bug/295091), but even after applying the latest updates from hardy-proposed my system still freezes on boot.03:09
ubottuUbuntu bug 295091 in linux "kernel crashes at boot on a dell inspiron 531." [High,Fix committed]03:09
Befolkedadding the acpi=off option to my grub line fixes it, but that has unwanted sideeffects, and it should just work.03:10
Befolkedso, is this package just not updated or what?03:10
geofftpresumably that bug wants to have status "fix released", not just "fix committed"03:11
Befolkedyes, i thought it was released after looking at the committ tree03:12
Befolkedbut it doesn't fix anything on my machine, so i thought maybe it was just me.03:12
sbeattieBefolked: did you use the kernel from hardy-proposed? I don't believe it's made it to hardy-updates yet.03:31
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looldoko, cjwatson: Just a heads up that I assigned ubuntu-toolchain to fix 246625 which seems understood now and is a relatively important issue to fix in my eyes, so I've milestoned it10:29
loolIt's not clear to me why we're using nosegneg on i386 (and not in i686), but we should ship the file enabling libc6-xen to work out of the box for people running xen with hardy or intrepid (this does seem like a high importance target)10:31
loolslangasek: 360989 > the notify-osd change is a workaround gdm's behavior10:33
loolslangasek: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/360989/comments/12 documents what remains to be done in gdm10:34
ubottuUbuntu bug 360989 in notify-osd "notification-daemon started instead of notify-osd in Netbook Remix" [Medium,Fix released]10:34
loolslangasek: Albeit I don't know how to keep a task for karmic and not jaunty10:34
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slangaseklool: mark the jaunty tag 'wontfix'10:37
slangaseks/tag/task/10:37
loolah10:38
loolthakns10:38
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Lureslangasek: can you discuss exiv2 0.18.1 exception shortly?11:43
Lureslangasek: bug 35857611:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 358576 in exiv2 "exiv2 version 0.18 crashes / also crashes digikam / fixed in 0.18.1" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35857611:44
dcorderohi12:13
dcorderoi sent a debdiff file for fix a bug with has just been approvaled for upload. I never did it before, should i upload the new package? is it done by motu team?12:13
affluxdcordero: which bug?12:25
affluxdcordero: never mind12:26
dcorderoafflux: people in #ubuntu-motu already help me :D  Thanks anyway12:26
affluxyep, saw that12:26
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savvasis it a known problem that when you use "sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude upgrade" (and perhaps apt-get) the packagekit icon tooltip (in the tray/notification area) in gnome still shows that there are "xx updates" to be done?17:45
ebrodersavvas: You should be doing dist-upgrade, not upgrade17:46
savvassorry, safe-upgrade :)17:47
ebroderAnd you should use #ubuntu for support17:47
savvasit's about jaunty, just asking if it's a known problem devel-wise17:47
ebroderIf you think it's specific to jaunty, then #ubuntu+117:47
ebroderBut the behavior you're seeing is intentional17:48
savvasok17:48
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defrenggood evening - is somebody familiar with the new notify-osd API for concatenating two notifications?19:45
hyperairdefreng: you should poke the people at #ayatana19:48
hyperairdefreng: also take a look at pidgin-libnotify for an example19:48
hyperairdefreng: i think the wiki also shows an example19:48
defrenghyperair: yeah, I'm already quite far, but I want to concatenate to notifies - the wiki keeps silent exactly on this point19:49
defrengbut thanks for the channel advice, I'll have a look there19:49
hyperairdefreng: i remember seeing some C code snippets which worked in the wiki. complete with videos.19:49
defrenghyperair: It describes updating but not concatenating, unfortunately19:50
hyperairhmm?19:50
hyperairstrange, i remember seeing concatenating.. but someone on #ayatana gave me the link19:51
defrenghyperair: do you hava a link? I'm looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotificationDevelopmentGuidelines19:51
hyperair"How to use append-hint"19:53
hyperairthat's exactly what you should be looking at19:53
hyperairdefreng: ^19:53
defrenghyperair: yeah, but I'm lazy - I want to append, not update the whole thing ;)19:55
defrengand "Concatenating related notification bubbles" is empty19:55
hyperair...for the love of god19:56
defrengwait - one moment :D maybe it does work this way ;)19:56
hyperairyou got eyes?!19:57
hyperairread it damnit19:57
hyperairread it!19:57
defrengyeah yeah yeah - I'm sorry ;)19:57
hyperairheh =p19:57
defrengthanks a lot for hinting me ;)19:57
hyperair=)19:59
hyperairno problem19:59
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keeswhat exactly is spewing:20:24
keesINFO: using unknown version '/usr/bin/python3.0' (debian_defaults not up-to-date?)20:24
keesduring package updates?20:24
ebroderI think pycentral. Either that or pysupport20:26
keeshm, looks like python-defaults, via python-minimal20:26
gesermy guess is python-central or python-support20:26
kees/usr/share/python/debian_defaults20:26
keesseems to be missing python3.020:27
geserI guess it's ok that python 3.0 isn't listed as most(?) modules won't work with it either way20:28
keesdoko: should /usr/share/python/debian_defaults list python3.0 ?20:28
keesyeah20:28
RiddellArneGoetje: re bug 362229 can we just add the translation files manually to the language-pack packages?20:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 362229 in language-pack-kde-fr "Kubuntu language packs miss .desktop translations" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36222920:28
dokokees: no, doesn't make sense. 2.x and 3.x code are mostly incompatible20:31
keesdoko: okay, cool; any way to silence the "INFO: ..." warning?20:35
dokohmm, looking ...20:37
dokokees: it's info, not warning ;)20:37
AndyTimUbuntuI'm considering adding to the initrd to support mounting the squashfs over the httpfs FUSE system.  There isn't already support for the LiveCD environment entirely via HTTP yet, right?20:41
AndyTimUbuntuA look at the initrd reveals NFS, CIFS/SMB support...20:41
lesshastehi all20:42
lesshastehow do I "enable" /var/crash20:42
lesshasteit is permanently empty it seems20:42
lesshastedespite gdmsetup crashing every time20:42
dtchensee /etc/default/apport20:43
AndyTimUbuntuDoes this sound like a direction that might be useful as part of Ubuntu in general?20:43
lesshastedtchen: it's very odd..  grep enabled /etc/default/apport20:44
lesshasteenabled=120:44
lesshastels /var/crash/20:44
lesshasteraph@raph-desktop:~$20:44
lesshasteblank20:44
AndyTimUbuntuDevels must be asleep.  I'll ask another time.  Enjoy your Sunday(s).20:48
iahello. i've found out about "ubunet" project and other related projects, like "ubuntu one" (some clues tells, that it's something like .mac for ubuntu and it's in active development now); it says, that all this projects are proprietary, but will be they free of charge after release? and when will be something, that can be tested by "simple users" (not Canonical developers)? at one of lp pages about this said, that milestone for ubunet is jaunty - does this20:49
iamean, that it will be available in jaunty after release? and where i can find out more about ubunet and ubuntu one?20:49
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ScottKia: That sounds like you need to find some Canonical resource to find out about that, not part of Ubuntu.21:15
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