[03:04] <bobbies> is it possible to ugrade mythbuntu 8.04 to 8.10 over the internet?
[03:04] <tritium> bobbies: yes
[03:05] <bobbies> tritium: where do I find the directions?
[03:11] <tritium> bobbies: they're the same as those for upgrading ubuntu, kubuntu, or xubuntu
[03:11] <tritium> bobbies: /msg ubottu upgrade
[03:11] <tritium> !upgrade
[03:11] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about upgrade
[03:12] <tritium> That's what I thought...Ask ubottu, bobbies.
[03:23] <CarlosE> Hi Everyone, here's my issue - no sound in mythbuntu 8.10 from my creative xfi xtreme music card anybody with a similar problem?
[04:52] <superm1> tritium, i just taught Zinn upgrade, so you can use that in the future
[04:52] <superm1> !upgrade
[04:52] <Zinn> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[04:59] <tritium> Thanks, superm1 :)
[07:09] <yellowking> Is there a way to bundle a movie file and meta data to easily move between mythtv systems?
[07:28] <hads> Not really.
[07:28] <hads> (that I'm aware of)
[09:46] <balachmar> Hi, is it recommended to use ext4 for both the root partition as well as the recordings partition? As it does perform better with larger files than ext3 previously did. Last time I used XFS.
[09:50] <balachmar> I am talking about it in combination with 9.04
[12:10] <balachmar> I am trying to install mythbuntu 9.04 but my hard disk is not showing up in the installer. It is a sata disk and I did turn on ahcp or something.
[12:15] <balachmar> ahci, now trying raid
[12:20] <balachmar> that also didn't work. will now try ide and is that doesn't work ide with kernel option all_generic_ide
[12:59] <balachmar> ok it was all because of this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/190492
[12:59] <balachmar> seems it has something to do with my mobo
[13:19] <balachmar> can someone help me with the default /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-window-manager from mythbuntu 9.04?
[13:19] <balachmar> Or where to find it, I seem to have broken that file...
[13:38] <balachmar> Can no one check what the file looks like on his system? Even if it isn't the 9.04
[13:38] <balachmar> I just need to get it back in a readable/working state.
[13:41] <balachmar> nevermind removing the file and doing a aptitude safe upgrade solved the problem
[15:23] <r3vile> hi
[15:24] <gumpert345> hi, what would be the cheapest IR remote, that is automatically recognised and pre-configured  by mythbuntu?
[15:26] <gumpert345> I'd like to choose it from this menu: http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/images/mcc_remote.png and see it then work out-of-the-box
[16:12] <tgm4883> !mceusb2
[16:12] <Zinn> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MCE_Remote - Currently available here: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1644435&CatId=358
[16:12] <tgm4883> gumpert345, ^^
[17:32] <gumpert345> tmg4883 a little ironic, isnt it? *g*
[18:49] <soulfury> can anyone help me get my interface up?
[18:49] <soulfury> both ifup and dhclient return SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address
[18:49] <soulfury> i had to install a new nic and disable the onboard nic because it was getting 1000ms to the router with known good cable/port/etc
[21:10] <MythbuntuGuest08> I'm having trouble getting Mythubuntu 8.10 to work WinTV-PVR-500 MCE
[21:11] <MythbuntuGuest08> !help
[21:11] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[21:11] <Shadow__X1> MythbuntuGuest08, have you looked at the mythtv wiki
[21:16] <MythbuntuGuest08> yes i have
[21:16] <MythbuntuGuest08> but nothing specific
[21:18] <MythbuntuGuest08> i seem to cannot get pass the boot up screen with the card in, but it boots up fine when i took the card out
[21:18] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest08, bad card?
[21:19] <frozenskunk1> Can someone please give me some help trying to figure out why my system is running very slow using 8.10? The same box ran fine under earlier versions, and knoppmyth also before I switched to mythbuntu. Using top, I see that I have high cpu wait most of the time, it always in double digits, and over 90% isn't uncommon... I suspected maybe DMA wasn't enabled or something and the hard drive is the bottle neck, however when I ru
[21:19] <Shadow__X1> or are you sure its seated all the way
[21:20] <Shadow__X1> frozenskunk1, hdparm -Tt /dev/sda
[21:21] <frozenskunk1> thanks, let me give that a try! Whats the difference in the -Tt and -tT?
[21:21] <Shadow__X1> its the same one tests the hard drives cache then the other tests the actual thoroughput
[21:23] <frozenskunk1> I see. this one returns the same labels (Timing cached reads, and buffered disk reads) but values are 164.44 and 13.14 (respectively), 13 seems quite low?
[21:23] <Shadow__X1> what kind of hd is it
[21:23] <Shadow__X1> and yes 13 is low
[21:24] <Shadow__X1> i get around 60 but mine is a somewhat old sata drive
[21:24] <frozenskunk1> This is only a year or two old drive, 320GB if I recall correctly
[21:24] <Shadow__X1> sata?
[21:24] <frozenskunk1> I don't remember the interface type. Is there an easy way to check?
[21:25] <Shadow__X1> uh yeah let me try and remember
[21:25] <frozenskunk1> short of pulling the drive and looking at the label?
[21:25] <Shadow__X1> whats the name of the drive
[21:25] <frozenskunk1> Thanks! Sure appreciate the help! This has severely had a negative impact on the WAF!
[21:26] <Shadow__X1> like is it /dev/sda or ata
[21:26] <frozenskunk1> it is /dev/sda
[21:26] <Shadow__X1> then its sata or scsi to my knowledge and it is a safe guess to say sata
[21:26] <Shadow__X1> so sata
[21:28] <frozenskunk1> sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda tells me it's an ATA devices (WDC)
[21:28] <tgm4883> Shadow__X1, all drives are /dev/sdX
[21:28] <Shadow__X1> also hdparm -T gives some info
[21:28] <Shadow__X1> I*
[21:28] <Shadow__X1> tgm4883, really?
[21:29] <tgm4883> IDE and SATA that is
[21:29] <tgm4883> yea
[21:29] <Shadow__X1> hmm so then how do you see if its sata
[21:29] <tgm4883> same way you tell if a cat is female, flip it over ;)
[21:29] <Shadow__X1> lol with the system running
[21:29] <frozenskunk1> can you check a cat's sex from the command line? ;-)
[21:30] <tgm4883> well open the case?
[21:30] <tgm4883> frozenskunk1, with the proper driver ;)
[21:30] <Shadow__X1> frozenskunk1, you can get the model number and look it up
[21:31] <frozenskunk1> doing that now, give me a minute and I will let you know what I find.
[21:33] <frozenskunk1> WDC WD3200JB-00KFA0 appears to be a 320gb, 7200rpm, 16mb IDE 3.5"
[21:35] <frozenskunk1> Here we go: Western Digital WD3200JB Caviar SE 320GB 7200RPM 8MB Cache IDE Ultra ATA100. Model: WD3200JB-00KFA0 RoHS Compliant.
[21:36] <Shadow__X1> hmm interesting ide
[21:36] <Shadow__X1> well ide should be able to hit around 40MB/sec
[21:36] <frozenskunk1> leave it to me to find the 'interesting' hardware... ;-)
[21:37] <frozenskunk1> Could DMA be an issue? That was one of the first trees I was barking up, but haven't been able to enable it using hdparm..
[21:38] <Shadow__X1> it def is a dma issue
[21:38] <Shadow__X1> do you have the hd on the same cable as your cdrom
[21:38] <frozenskunk1> I don't think so, I would probably put them on different channels
[21:39] <frozenskunk1> Just double checked, and they are separte
[21:41] <Shadow__X1> hmm ok
[21:42] <Shadow__X1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[21:44] <frozenskunk1> Yeah, I found that page earlier today. when I try the hdparm section (the -d1 part) I get errors
[21:44] <frozenskunk1> give me a minute to flip over there and I will tell you waht they are
[21:44] <Shadow__X1> k
[21:48] <frozenskunk1> ok, when I try sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/sda I get the following:
[21:48] <frozenskunk1> "/dev/sda:
[21:48] <frozenskunk1> setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[21:48] <frozenskunk1> HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[21:48] <frozenskunk1> HDIO_GET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device"
[21:49] <Shadow__X1> hmm
[21:49] <Shadow__X1> try searching that issue sounds like its saying that device doesnt support it
[21:49] <frozenskunk1> I tried to figure that out and found other people that had the same error, but never found a solution. It also seemed that all the posts I found were quite dated, which led me to believe maybe I was looking at the wrong thing.
[21:49] <Shadow__X1> on hdparm -I what dma did it support
[21:49] <Shadow__X1> hmm well it could be how the drive is setup in bios
[21:50] <frozenskunk1> Don't believe I have a bios issue, I have used this box for a few years, and it just seems to be 8.10 that has this (slow) issue
[21:50] <Shadow__X1> hmm well again do hdparm -I and see what dma it says it supports
[21:51] <Shadow__X1> and did it say dma was on
[21:51] <frozenskunk1> just did, that gives DMA: mdma0 mdma 1 mdma 2 udma0 udma1 udma 2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
[21:52] <frozenskunk1> I believe that the mdma and udma are different. When I used another hdparm command, it gave those as two line items (but same status, udma5 was tagged with the asterisk)
[21:54] <Shadow__X1> hmm
[21:54] <frozenskunk1> yeah, using hdparm -i lists mdma as DMA modes, and udma as UDMA modse
[21:54] <frozenskunk1> again, with udma5 marked as active
[21:54] <Shadow__X1> udo hdparm /dev/hdc
[21:54] <Shadow__X1> sudo hdparm /dev/hdc
[21:55] <Shadow__X1> hmm dma5 should be faster than what your getting afaik
[21:55] <frozenskunk1> is there a difference between DMA and UDMA?
[21:55] <Shadow__X1> uh i dont really know honestly
[21:56] <Shadow__X1> or atleast i dont remember
[21:56] <frozenskunk1> sudo hdparm /dev/hdc returns no such file or directory. Do I maybe need a disc in that drive?
[22:01] <Shadow__X1> no you want to replace hdc with your hd
[22:01] <frozenskunk1> ok, a little more research and I found this (http://www.spcug.org/reviews/bl0108.htm) that indicates UDMA is UltraDMA, which Western Dig refers to as ATA/100, so I think that UDMA is probably appropriate, and appears to be enabled already...
[22:09] <frozenskunk1> Any other ideas as to what might cause such slow rates?
[22:32] <frozenskunk1> maybe this... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/216878 or this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/285595
[22:33] <frozenskunk1> Shadow__X1 - Thanks for your help! At least it looks like my config is correct, and it may be a bug issue. I will see what else I can figure out. Thanks again!
[23:19] <Shadow__X1> frozenskunk1, yup sorry i couldnt help get rid of the issue
[23:49] <MattP> Hey, anybody want to awnser a few of my questions about Mythbuntu...I have a few.
[23:50] <MattP> Just installed it today and I want to see what it can do.