| pitti | Good morning | 07:08 |
|---|---|---|
| proppy | oy | 07:10 |
| seb128 | hey mvo | 09:55 |
| mvo | hey seb128 | 09:58 |
| seb128 | mvo: so you broke the bling on my laptop between rc and jaunty ;-) | 09:58 |
| seb128 | mvo: I will find you at uds! | 09:59 |
| seb128 | or before ;-) | 09:59 |
| mvo | seb128: *cough* | 09:59 |
| mvo | seb128: I did | 09:59 |
| seb128 | not nice | 10:00 |
| mvo | but ... but ... they forced me to | 10:00 |
| seb128 | I don't have a box where jaunty does bling now | 10:00 |
| mvo | bling for everyone! | 10:00 |
| mvo | seb128: didn't you say you get freezes when you remove the virtual desktop size? or was that just slowdown? | 10:00 |
| seb128 | yet, not for me apparently, my desktop has too new ati and my laptop has been broken for now good reason ;-) | 10:00 |
| seb128 | slowness | 10:00 |
| seb128 | I didn't get any freeze yet on this box (and I'm using it full time to work) | 10:01 |
| seb128 | nobody seems to be interested to try if the virtual thing fix their hang apparently though | 10:02 |
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| pitti | rickspencer3: I don't think we need https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/gdm2 | 11:18 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: I thought we already decided that we'll move when we have the facebrowser? | 11:19 |
| pitti | seb128: ^ ? | 11:19 |
| seb128 | pitti: agreed | 11:25 |
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| mvo | seb128: re-freeze> supsend-resume does not make a difference for you? | 12:02 |
| asac | gtk seems to use host=i686-pc-linux-gnu now ... but it was i486-pc-linux-gnu in beta ... what happened? | 12:03 |
| asac | seb128: ? any idea | 12:03 |
| seb128 | mvo: I did suspend resume at least 15 times this week for sure | 12:04 |
| seb128 | mvo: never got any freeze or hang | 12:04 |
| mvo | seb128: really strange, no idea then | 12:04 |
| seb128 | asac: lool reworked the rules to specify armel flags could be it | 12:04 |
| seb128 | asac: does that create any issue? | 12:05 |
| asac | hmm. that broke 32bit loading on 64 now | 12:05 |
| asac | e.g. we have a missing link | 12:05 |
| asac | ls -l /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/i486-pc-linux-gnu | 12:05 |
| asac | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 2007-10-11 17:43 /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/i486-pc-linux-gnu -> ../../../lib32/gtk-2.0/2.10.0 | 12:05 |
| seb128 | that would be a ia32libs issue rather no? | 12:05 |
| asac | but no i686 | 12:05 |
| asac | is that link shipped by ia32libs? | 12:05 |
| asac | if so, yeah | 12:05 |
| asac | seb128: great. ok | 12:06 |
| seb128 | gtk doesn't ship any lib32 directory I think | 12:06 |
| asac | i already feared that the link was shipped by gtk ;) | 12:06 |
| asac | ia32 can still be updated | 12:06 |
| asac | thanks | 12:06 |
| asac | lool: do you have any bug i can refer to for this "host" change? | 12:07 |
| asac | lool: please confirm that we explicitly switched to i686 | 12:07 |
| asac | (not that we can still change it ;)) | 12:07 |
| lool | Uh | 12:07 |
| asac | strings /usr/lib32/libgtk-x11-2.0.so | grep linux | 12:08 |
| asac | i686-pc-linux-gnu | 12:08 |
| lool | asac: I'm trying to understand | 12:09 |
| asac | lool: in gtk/Makefile.am there is -DGTK_HOST=\"$(host)\" | 12:10 |
| asac | or something | 12:10 |
| lool | asac: I'm trying to understand which change broke that | 12:11 |
| asac | lool: that was i486-pc-linux-gnu in beta | 12:11 |
| asac | ah ok | 12:11 |
| lool | asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/154623/ is the closest | 12:11 |
| asac | lool: so maybe it changed in the toolchain? | 12:12 |
| lool | The --build flag is missing entirely in ubuntu8 | 12:13 |
| asac | this paste looks weird ;) | 12:13 |
| lool | asac: Crap, it's a fix I made to SVN and which didn't make it to the Ubuntu pacjages | 12:13 |
| lool | Missing backspace after --enable-test-print-backend | 12:13 |
| lool | seb128: ^ | 12:14 |
| lool | asac, seb128 moved to -release | 12:17 |
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| asac | mvo: pmsg | 14:09 |
| mvo | asac: looking | 14:11 |
| asac | hmmm ... how does gtk select icons from theme. does it always select scalable if that exist? even for really tiny icons? | 14:19 |
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| lool | seb128: Hey, I'm running Ubuntu under qemu from a fresh jaunty install and IndicatorApplet is encountering a problem on startup; how can I tell what happened on the bonobo / orbit2 server side? | 14:36 |
| lool | "Child process did not give an error message, unknown failure occurred" | 14:37 |
| lool | That's all I see in the .xsession-errors log | 14:37 |
| seb128 | no idea out of the .xsession-errors log | 14:38 |
| seb128 | does it work if you click on "reload" for the applet? | 14:38 |
| seb128 | do you get any error if you run /usr/lib/indicator-applet/indicator-applet on a command line and add it to the panel then? | 14:38 |
| lool | seb128: I don't get reload, only don't delete versus delete | 14:40 |
| lool | (I think that's it's because it's on startpu) | 14:40 |
| lool | seb128: Running /usr/lib/indicator-applet/indicator-applet outputs nothing but exits with return code 1 | 14:40 |
| seb128 | tedg: ^ | 14:41 |
| seb128 | lool: is there an instance already running? | 14:41 |
| lool | seb128: oh yes | 14:41 |
| * lool starts a guest session | 14:42 | |
| lool | seb128: I think it's an orbit2 tmieout | 14:47 |
| lool | It's very slow in qemu | 14:47 |
| lool | So I get popups about notification area, indicator applet and another one when starting the guest session | 14:47 |
| lool | seb128: I don't think we care much then => /me goes doing something useful :) | 14:47 |
| seb128 | right | 14:47 |
| * Ng facepalms. If gnome-panel is told by gconf to start on a monitor that doesn't exist, it seems to go into a loop and never starts | 15:14 | |
| * Ng fires up the bug filing cannons | 15:14 | |
| seb128 | Ng: you are firing the upstream canons right? ;-) | 15:28 |
| Ng | seb128: I did both and linked them :) | 15:28 |
| seb128 | good | 15:28 |
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| Ampelbein | pitti: have you had a look at bug 359963? | 15:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 359963 in apport "Apport retracing service is incorrectly interpreting installed version: None as being out of date" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/359963 | 15:42 |
| pitti | Ampelbein: not yet, it's not a major issue, but it's on my near-term TODO list | 15:54 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: FYI, new ubuntu desktop/alternates (20090420.1) available | 15:54 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti: sweet | 15:56 |
| seb128 | Ampelbein: that's not really an issue the retracing doesn't work on those bugs anyway that's just the error not being clear | 16:02 |
| seb128 | Ampelbein: that's not really an issue the retracing doesn't work on those bugs anyway that's just the error not being clear | 16:02 |
| Ampelbein | seb128: well, if the retrace failed and apport-retrace finds outdated packages it closes the report right-away. | 16:02 |
| seb128 | Ampelbein: which seems correct | 16:02 |
| Ampelbein | seb128: but not in cases where it falsely identifies packages as being outdated. | 16:03 |
| seb128 | well if the retracing doesn't work the reason doesn't really matter | 16:03 |
| Ampelbein | it's still a legitimate crash and should be treated as such. for example the triager could try a manual retrace or ask the reporter to reproduce. if the report is closed, the reporter will feel like being ignored. | 16:04 |
| seb128 | we should change the default message but still close those imho | 16:05 |
| Ampelbein | i think the issue happens when a recommended package is uninstalled. Then the dependencies.txt give NONE as installed version and the retracer treats it as being outdated | 16:05 |
| seb128 | we have thousand of those useless bug around, they add noise and are never worked anyway, if the submitter update the bug he can as well reopen it | 16:05 |
| seb128 | I'm in favor of autoclosing all bugs which have a non-useful stacktrace and ask the submitter to reopen if you can provide one | 16:06 |
| seb128 | that's just the message to be closed | 16:06 |
| seb128 | closed -> updated | 16:06 |
| Ampelbein | hmm. on second thought this sounds ok, because that's what the triager would do anyway. (ask for backtrace) | 16:07 |
| seb128 | apport could be smarter about detecting packages to install too | 16:07 |
| seb128 | ie look at the procmaps and installed what is there | 16:08 |
| seb128 | it would fix lot of compiz retracing being broken for example because the crashes are in plugins which are not depends | 16:08 |
| Ampelbein | that would be really awesome. | 16:11 |
| pitti | seb128: apport has looked into ProcMaps and installing extra packages from there for ages | 16:14 |
| seb128 | pitti: ah, ok so maybe there is an another reason why some retracing don't work correctly then, I just assumed that was due to that | 16:14 |
| mpt | rickspencer3, just came across https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-software-development-kit | 18:22 |
| mpt | and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/widgetry | 18:24 |
| pitti | good night everyone! | 18:35 |
| asac | pitti: good night | 18:51 |
| calc | heh OOo 3.1.0rc2 won't even be out until after Ubuntu 9.04 | 19:31 |
| * calc is glad he didn't try to cram OOo 3.1 into jaunty :) | 19:31 | |
| calc | they are consistently behind schedule | 19:32 |
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| chrisccoulson | hi seb128 | 21:14 |
| seb128 | hello chrisccoulson | 21:14 |
| chrisccoulson | have you noticed any freezing issues with evolution-data-server? | 21:14 |
| james_w | chrisccoulson: I get one on "Formatting message" quite frequently | 21:15 |
| seb128 | bugs on launchpad or local bug? | 21:15 |
| seb128 | how "with evolution-data-server"? | 21:15 |
| chrisccoulson | i haven't reported it yet. i was going to report it on bugzilla, but wasn't sure if it was just my setup | 21:15 |
| seb128 | you don't notice from an user perspective what e-d-s is doing | 21:15 |
| seb128 | but evo can be hanging due to e-d-s crashing | 21:15 |
| seb128 | we have some known calendar bugs | 21:16 |
| seb128 | can you give details on your issue? | 21:16 |
| chrisccoulson | for me, evolution stops working. it appears to be functioning but when you try and send an e-mail or fetch from my POP server, it just does nothing | 21:16 |
| chrisccoulson | then i got a backtrace of e-d-s | 21:16 |
| seb128 | james_w: you should open a bug for that, on bugzilla if you can is better ;-) | 21:16 |
| james_w | seb128: there's a really old one on bugzilla I'm subscribed to | 21:17 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - this is the backtrace i get, and it is the same everytime e-d-s freezes: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/154929/ | 21:17 |
| seb128 | james_w: oh ok, I though the old issue has been fixed, I've not seen a such bug in the whole jaunty cycle I think | 21:17 |
| james_w | it's not happened to me for a couple of weeks, but was happening a couple of times a day before that | 21:18 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: no, I've not seen bugs similar to this one | 21:18 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmmm | 21:18 |
| james_w | the chatter on that bug suggest it might be a new problem though | 21:18 |
| dobey | hey packager types | 21:18 |
| seb128 | hello dobey | 21:20 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: how busy are you this week? | 21:24 |
| chrisccoulson | relatively busy until the second half of the week | 21:24 |
| chrisccoulson | how come? | 21:24 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: or asked differently, do you want to do the nautilus sru update for this zooming issue? | 21:24 |
| seb128 | or should I do it | 21:24 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i can do that | 21:25 |
| seb128 | there is no hurry srus will not be accepted until after jaunty anyway | 21:25 |
| seb128 | ok, thanks | 21:25 |
| chrisccoulson | that won't take too long to do. i could probably do it later this evening | 21:25 |
| seb128 | as said no hurry we will not have those accepted before jaunty | 21:25 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: base the update on the bzr version mvo already commited a fix there which can go in the same sru upload | 21:33 |
| Ampelbein | hi all. bug 270976 : I succeeded in creating a package of gst-plugins-bad with the mplex plugin enabled, installed it and all other libav*unstripped* packages and brasero does not complain anymore about a missing plugin. yet it fails burning with "Illegal operation". see bug 364324 for reference. am i right that the crash happens in libmjpegtools? | 22:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 270976 in gst-plugins-bad0.10 "Brasero can't burn a video DVD" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/270976 | 22:51 |
| ubottu | Bug 364324 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/364324 is private | 22:51 |
| * dobey wonders what broke his keyboard layout | 23:10 | |
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