[00:00] <tsimpson> as long as it's free, sure :p
[00:00] <Jordan_U> I am not 100 % sure it was a troll but you guys probably know better.
[00:01] <tsimpson> bugs in ubuntu-bots down from 28 to 12, not bad
[00:02] <tsimpson> 10 are wishes
[00:02] <Seeker`> \o/
[00:02] <tsimpson> and 1 is a bug in uBOTu-fr
[00:02] <Seeker`> how is the load on ubottu now?
[00:03] <tsimpson> it's still quite memory hungry, but that's probably because of me
[00:04] <tsimpson> 306m  81m 7340 S  1.3  7.8  56:20.82 python
[00:04] <tsimpson> all it really needs a some optimization and code clean up
[00:05] <tsimpson> luckily no one has reported the bug "ubottu is a memory guzzling hog" yet
[00:05]  * jussi01 goes to report it :P
[00:05] <tsimpson> no, that's not an invitation :)
[00:06]  * tsimpson get's the "Won't Fix" button ready
[00:06] <jussi01> hehe
[00:06] <mneptok> jussi01: file it anyway. he prolly can't even view bugs with the RAM left available to Firefox.
[00:07] <jussi01> mneptok: ubottu is on my server
[00:07] <Seeker`> any chance of getting ubottu back in -uk rather than ubot4?
[00:07] <jussi01> no
[00:08] <tsimpson> what do you have against ubot4?
[00:08] <jussi01> ubottu: is not for Locos - thats the policy, if its still in locos, it will gradually be phased out
[00:08] <Seeker`> lag with factoids, no bantracker
[00:08] <jussi01> stupid bot
[00:08] <Seeker`> mainly the 2nd
[00:09] <tsimpson> bantracker in loco bots could bring up some issues
[00:09] <Seeker`> tsimpson: how so?
[00:09] <tsimpson> like, should all loco ops have access to the logs/comments for all other loco's
[00:09] <Seeker`> I don't know
[00:10] <Seeker`> but I'm a relic from the old pre -irc days, and have access to ubottus bantracker even thought i'm only an op in -uk
[00:10] <Seeker`> I believe that a few other ops from -uk have access to the bantracker too
[00:11] <tsimpson> that's because I'm too lazy to clean up the access to ubottu :p
[00:11] <Seeker`> :P
[00:11] <jussi01> Seeker`: you are a relic :D
[00:11] <jussi01> :P
[00:11] <Seeker`> jussi01: yup :D
[00:11] <jussi01> !seeker
[00:12] <Seeker`> jussi01: and you've been here longer than me :P
[00:12] <jussi01> I have?
[00:12] <Seeker`> I thought so
[00:12] <jussi01> :P
[00:13] <Seeker`> jussi01: I would be surprised if you haven't
[00:13] <jussi01> Seeker`: when did you "arrive"?
[00:13] <tsimpson> I don't think so, I remember when jussi01 became a #kubuntu op
[00:13] <jussi01> tsimpson: I was around before that
[00:14] <tsimpson> yeah, but in here?
[00:14] <jussi01> I started here when I became a #ubuntustudio op
[00:14]  * Seeker` registered his nick before jussi01
[00:14] <jussi01> hehe
[00:14] <tsimpson> that's not a "real" channel ;)
[00:14] <Seeker`> I  can't remember when I became a -uk op
[00:14] <jussi01> tsimpson: yes it is
[00:14] <Seeker`> @btlogin
[00:15] <jussi01> but meh, I dont care - I do actually think Seeker` has been around longer than me
[00:15] <Seeker`> hmm, bantracker doesn't store all of history
[00:15] <jussi01> Seeker`: of course not
[00:15] <tsimpson> it stores 100 lines
[00:15] <jussi01> Seeker`: its only got from when I took it over
[00:16]  * Seeker` was kicked and banned from here by seveas after being made a -uk op, but before Seveas realised and gave me +v
[00:16] <jussi01> !logs 
[00:16] <jussi01> ;)
[00:16] <tsimpson> yeah, we don't have the old  logs
[00:16] <jussi01> Seeker`: me also...
[00:16] <Flannel> Seeker`: Always a troublemaker...
[00:16] <jussi01> Flannel: a stupid trouble maker? :P
[00:16] <tsimpson> hmm, wasn't the log bot run by seveas back then too
[00:17] <jussi01> no idea...
[00:18] <Flannel> fabbione, I believe.
[00:19]  * mneptok nods
[00:19] <tsimpson> #ubuntu-ops wasn't logged until 2007-01-04 it seems
[00:19] <mneptok> Fabio may still have those old logs. i can ssk him for them.
[00:19] <mneptok> *ask
[00:20] <Flannel> ssk... is that a new secure protocol?
[00:20] <tsimpson> oh, while you're here jussi01 ;) want to update https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots ?
[00:20] <jussi01> tsimpson: you cant do it??
[00:21] <tsimpson> nope
[00:21] <jussi01> :/
[00:21] <tsimpson> "Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page."
[00:21] <jussi01> Im just going to bed... pester some other IRCC memeber, or get me tomorrow
[00:21] <Seeker`> I was here by the end of january 2007, not sure if i was an op then or not
[00:22] <tsimpson> jussi01: it hasn't changed in (probably) years, so a day or two doesn't matter
[00:22] <jussi01> tsimpson: :D
[00:23] <jussi01> tsimpson: also, I noticed the other day the wiki needed some updates/love - if you have time you may want to have a browse of that
[00:23] <tsimpson> jussi01: which part(s) ?
[00:24] <jussi01> tsimpson: the bot page had a few inconsistencies - i think it still had dennis listed there and stuff, dont remember, just remember thinking I need ot get onto that
[00:25] <tsimpson> only in the "ubotu" section (history) and the examples. but I'll give it the once over
[00:38] <Seeker`> hmm, UKTeam IRC page has me added as an op in may 07 I think
[00:41] <jussi01> Seeker`: heh - IIRC mine happened early 07... not certain tho
[00:42]  * jussi01 _should_ go to bed now...
[00:44] <tsimpson> I've done a quick edit of the wiki, if you want to review
[00:44] <jussi01> link me again?
[00:44] <Flannel> ln jussi01 wiki
[00:45] <tsimpson> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[00:45] <Flannel> done!
[00:45]  * jussi01 throws Flannel out...
[00:47]  * jussi01 sighs...
[00:47] <jussi01> [02:40:42] <Linuz2009> is ubuntu same as microsoft?
[00:47] <Flannel> That's ignorance, not trolling.
[00:47] <Flannel> Either that, or he's been putting an awful lot of effort into gaining credibility just to troll.
[00:48] <jussi01> Flannel: no, its laziness
[00:49]  * jussi01 really goes to bed
[00:58] <Seeker`> aha, was added to the access list here on 13th oct 2007
[00:58] <Seeker`> well, given +v anyway
[01:02] <jdong> jussi01: FWIW he was in #uf asking audio questions; seemed legit to me, just a nontechnical person
[01:03] <jdong> dtchen was attempting to help him with an audio issue which he was unable to resolve.
[02:34] <LjL> [03:33:56] *** DaemonLee is now known as FloodBot4.
[02:34] <LjL> [03:34:00] *** FloodBot4 is now known as FloodBot5.
[02:34] <LjL> wth is this
[02:55] <mikegriffin> how did i end up here? i said #ubuntu.
[02:56] <Flannel> mikegriffin: Yes, you're banned (and forwarded) here.
[03:00] <mikegriffin> oh i see. i did talk shit last time
[03:01] <mikegriffin> mystery solved
[03:01] <mikegriffin> so does ban expire after i am sorry or x years have passed?
[03:03] <Flannel> mikegriffin: The ban is removed once we discuss it and such.
[03:03] <Flannel> Sorry, I'm busy for a few more minutes, then I can help you.
[03:03] <mikegriffin> sure thing
[03:52] <mikegriffin> its cool, i'll just go to ubuntu+1 as it is the same in intrepid and jaunty
[03:53] <Flannel> mikegriffin: Alright, sorry about that.
[03:53] <mikegriffin> no worries
[03:53] <Flannel> mikegriffin: So, like you already know, you were a bit rude as you left last time.
[03:54] <Flannel> Obviously, we don't like that.  Are you aware of our Code of Conduct and IRC guidelines?
[03:54] <mikegriffin> i was not but could have assumed that profanity was off limits
[03:54] <Flannel> !coc
[03:54] <Flannel> !guidelines
[03:54] <mikegriffin> thanks
[03:54] <Flannel> It is.  But please read over those.  Let me know when you're done.
[03:55] <mikegriffin> in my defence, i think i gave the right answer. but i do not recall the exact thing he was asking about
[03:55] <tritium> Good evening.
[03:55] <mikegriffin> thanks guys.
[03:55] <Flannel> erm
[03:56] <tritium> Hmm, did he think I was dismissing him, and not just saying "hello"?
[03:56] <Flannel> Oh, perhaps.
[03:57] <tritium> Sorry, if that's the case.
[04:00] <tsimpson> who wants to help me with the Bantracker API?
[04:08] <Flannel> Alright, I spoke with mikegriffin in a query, he now understands, agrees, etc.
[04:12] <tritium> Oh, good.
[04:12] <Flannel> Apparently I was confusing.
[04:13] <Flannel> He thought I wanted him to have already read the coc/ircg or somethign like that, and didn't want to lie about it.
[04:13] <Flannel> So, I'll have to try to be less ambiguous in the future.
[04:20] <tritium> You weren't, really.
[05:04] <tritium> Good night, Flannel.
[05:05] <Flannel> night tritium
[05:13] <Flannel> Hi pgrosso0433, how can we help you today?
[05:14] <pgrosso0433> well havin problems with nvidia driver
[05:14] <Flannel> pgrosso0433: This channel isn't for technical support.  For that, you want #ubuntu
[05:15] <pgrosso0433> thanks
[08:03] <topyli> hrm. +1 has absolutely nothing to do with ubuntu atm
[08:07] <badfish69> can i have my wifi unbanned now?
[08:10] <ikonia> badfish69: hold on a moment please
[08:11] <Myrtti> good morning
[08:12] <ikonia> Myrtti: morning
[08:12] <ikonia> badfish69: ok - so do you know why you where banned ?
[08:15] <badfish69> yeah
[08:16] <ikonia> can you explain it
[08:20] <badfish69> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/04/19/%23ubuntu-ops.txt
[08:20] <badfish69> starts at 07:25
[08:21] <badfish69> long story short, ban evasion via wifi
[08:21] <ikonia> badfish69: do you know why you where orginally bannd
[08:21] <ikonia> banned
[08:21] <badfish69> yeah
[08:21] <badfish69> for running a quote script on my desktop box
[08:22] <badfish69> that was my wired connection
[08:22] <badfish69> this is the wifi one that got banned for evading the original ban
[08:23] <ikonia> !help
[08:23] <badfish69> wrong box
[08:23] <ikonia> so you're no longer running that script
[08:23] <badfish69> no
[08:23] <badfish69> even if i was you couldnt tell in here because this is my notebook
[08:23] <badfish69> the desktop  box is drinkycrow in #ubuntu
[08:23] <badfish69> they left the ban on thsi one another day for evasion
[08:24] <ikonia> yes, I'm just reading through the notes now
[08:29] <ikonia> I won't keep you much longer badfish69 
[08:29] <badfish69> np
[08:31] <ikonia> ok, sorry, took me a few moments to go through a few things
[08:31] <ikonia> my only questions are 1.) what was the deal with the ban evading ? 2.) do you now grasp the "stop messing around" and "control your language" in the #ubuntu channels ?
[08:31] <badfish69> i dont remember anything about language
[08:32] <ikonia> really, you've been removed a few times for some rude language and general messing around comments
[08:32] <ikonia> things like "badfish69 sucks cock"
[08:32] <badfish69> i jand i just figured getting around the ban would be easier than explaining it was a script on a campus network and thqat i dont run bots
[08:32] <badfish69> i didnt count on bazhogs eagle eye
[08:32] <ikonia> ok - so you knew what you you where doing and just didn't want to explain yourself
[08:32] <ikonia> just trying to be %100 clear 
[08:33] <badfish69> oh yeah
[08:33] <badfish69> yeah pretty much
[08:34] <ikonia> so if I was to remove the ban as dicussed with elky you did yesterday, I can assume that the language/messing around/scripts etc will not be used again
[08:34] <badfish69> yeah
[08:34] <badfish69> im recoding it to ignore anything in freenode
[08:34] <ikonia> and if there are any problems you'll come here and dicuss it with us rather than try to get around bans or warnings s?
[08:34] <badfish69> roger that
[08:35] <ikonia> ok, no problem
[08:35] <ikonia> two minutes please
[08:35] <badfish69> sure thing
[08:35] <ikonia> badfish69: ok, the bans removed a agreed by elky and the terms you've just agreed to with me in here
[08:35] <ikonia> everything good ?
[08:35] <badfish69> peachy
[08:36] <ikonia> ok, thank you, please try to remember what was said in here, it would be most appreciated to help keep the channel flowing
[08:36] <badfish69> can do
[08:36] <badfish69> ty
[08:36] <badfish69> take care
[08:36] <ikonia> @mark badfish69 ban removed and terms of removal set out and agreed, seemed honest and up front on this occasion
[10:24] <Myrtti> urhm.
[10:24] <Myrtti> the bot's down?
[10:25] <elky> button pressed
[10:25]  * elky hums and sips on home-brewed latte :D
[10:28]  * tsimpson notes that the bot is out-of-date
[10:29]  * Myrtti had some too
[10:38] <tsimpson> ubottu: reload Encyclopedia
[10:40] <Myrtti> bolt_ *again*
[10:42]  * Myrtti kicks ubottu
[10:43] <elky> sigh.
[10:45] <Myrtti> elky: can you get to ubottu.com?
[10:45] <tsimpson> it's down
[10:46]  * Myrtti curses
[10:46] <Myrtti> @bansearch bolt_
[10:46] <ikonia> he's ban forwarded here !
[10:46] <ikonia> I did it myself
[10:46] <popey> /40/20
[10:46] <ikonia> @btlogin
[10:46] <popey> oops
[10:46] <ikonia> /10/15
[10:46] <elky_> /30/fail/
[10:47] <Myrtti> lolhelp?
[10:47] <popey> :)
[10:47]  * Myrtti cannot brain today
[10:47] <ikonia> I am %100 certain bolt_ is ban forwarded here unless someone removed it 
[10:47] <Myrtti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/154572/
[10:48] <Myrtti> ikonia: that would be for *!*@5ad937e6.bb.sky.com!#ubuntu-ops
[10:48] <elky_> Myrtti, dates on that would be nice
[10:48] <ziroday> Hi, someone might want to keep an eye on bolt_ in #ubuntu, he's being very err evasive
[10:48] <elky_> ziroday, we are already
[10:48] <Myrtti> elky_: it gets it on /bans
[10:48] <ziroday> elky_: oh sorry, do you want me to stop helping him?
[10:49] <ikonia> Myrtti: is that him ?
[10:49] <Myrtti> ikonia: I can only guess
[10:49] <Myrtti> ikonia: no haz access to bt
[10:49] <Myrtti> ikonia: but that's by you, on line 37 on the pastebin ^
[10:49] <ikonia> yup, I don't remember removing it because he refused to discuss it so I'm shocked that I removed it
[10:50] <Myrtti> but since his ip has changed, of course it doesn't work
[10:50] <ikonia> doesn't matter - he's doing the same thing I warned him off last time
[10:50] <Myrtti> yeah
[10:51] <Myrtti> put it on as nick based?
[10:51] <ikonia> I will now
[10:51] <popey> oh
[10:51] <popey> was about to reply to him
[10:51] <popey> with help
[10:51] <ikonia> popey: infact you where one of the guys's he kept pm'ing
[10:51] <popey> i was
[10:52] <ikonia> bolt_: hi, 
[10:52] <bolt_> hi
[10:52] <bolt_> isue
[10:53] <ikonia> bolt_: I've forwarded you to this channel, as I was unable to get a response out of you the last time you where in #ubuntu 
[10:53] <bolt_> oh ok
[10:54] <bolt_> how do i open exe files using wine
[10:54] <ikonia> bolt_: hang on a minute please. 
[10:55] <ikonia> bolt_: the reason you've been forwarded to this this channel is not for support but to explain that your recent behaviour in the #ubuntu channels have been distant from the guidlines / behaviour expected while in the channel
[10:56] <ikonia> bolt_: for example - do you remember me asking you to not pm people for help ?
[10:57] <bolt_> right
[10:57] <ikonia> yet, straight after that, 2 more users complained of you PM'ing them ?
[10:57] <bolt_> err i' dont but Joey does
[10:57] <ikonia> what ?
[10:57] <ikonia> who is "joey" ?
[10:58] <bolt_> my robot pal
[10:58] <popey> is this the point where bolt_ pretends to be a dog again?
[10:58] <ikonia> ok - this conversation ends then
[10:58] <ikonia> I'm not discussing this with a one sided dicussion 
[10:58] <ikonia> discussion
[10:58] <bolt_> oy popey i was being truful
[10:59] <ikonia> bolt_: please come back when you want to discuss this issue normally - without references to robots/dogs/anyone else
[11:00] <elky_> bolt_, i'll believe it when your robot pal has cleaned my apartment.
[11:02]  * elky_ raises an eyebrow at ikonia, wondering if shes been disconnected.
[11:05] <ikonia> no no - youre there
[11:05] <ikonia> elky_: I can see you
[11:05] <bios> ý õòî?
[11:05] <bios> íàðîä
[11:05] <elky_> bazhang
[11:05] <ikonia> bolt_: if there is nothing else you need at this time, please leave the channel 
[11:05] <ikonia> bios: can you speak English ?
[11:06] <bios> no
[11:06] <elky_> funny way to prove it.
[11:06] <bios> not speak English
[11:06] <elky_> ikonia, see the .ua, he's from the russian channel, i'm going to guess
[11:06] <bios> ua
[11:07] <elky_> bios, you have problem in #ubuntu-ru?
[11:07] <bios> yes
[11:07] <elky_> bios, go to #ubuntu-irc please. russian ops there.
[11:07] <bios> thenck you
[11:08] <bios> elky_: wot you name?
[11:09] <elky_> bios, Mel.
[11:09] <elky_> bios, what your name?
[11:09] <bios> may nem vova
[11:09] <bios> live in Ua
[11:09] <bios> kalush
[11:10] <bios> elky_: freends =)
[11:11] <bios> elky_: ok?
[11:11] <elky_> bios, live in australia.
[11:11] <bios> elky_: =)
[11:12] <bios> elky_: os Ubuntu?
[11:12] <ikonia> elky_:  - I was being stupid, for some reason I read .ua as .au 
[11:12] <elky_> ikonia, heh.
[11:12] <elky_> bios, your friend is iwmw?
[11:13] <ikonia> @mark bolt__ #ubuntu ban evading
[11:14] <elky_> bios, what is problem with russian channel? is iwmw problem?
[11:15] <tsimpson> ikonia: marks are pointless
[11:15] <ikonia> tsimpson: oh?
[11:15] <ikonia> tsimpson: ljl was encouraging to put a mark in for things like that
[11:15] <tsimpson> it's adding a mark to an outdated database
[11:15] <ikonia> ahhhh
[11:15] <ikonia> didn't realise it was on the other db 
[11:15] <bios> elky_: latynoyu wrote
[11:16] <tsimpson> ikonia: and if you kick/remove, it's extra pointless
[11:16] <tsimpson> as that already adds an entry
[11:16] <ikonia> tsimpson: yup, just putting the comment, just something ljl was trying to put in practice
[11:16] <elky_> tsimpson, it's not always obvious with ban evasion kicks
[11:16] <tsimpson> you can comment directly from IRC
[11:17] <tsimpson> @help comment
[11:17] <ubot4`> tsimpson: Error: There is no command "comment".
[11:17] <bios> elky_: did understand what I wrote?
[11:17] <elky_> bios, no. what is latynoyu?
[11:18] <bios> abcd
[11:18] <bios> latynoyu -abcd
[11:18] <ikonia> tsimpson: that's cool to know
[11:18] <bios> and needed it was àáñä
[11:20] <bios> a font was not that
[11:21] <bios> ikonia: understand?
[11:21] <ikonia> bios: I'm really sorry - I don't speak russian
[11:21] <elky> bios, sorry, i do not understand.
[11:22]  * Myrtti wishes bazhang was awake
[11:23] <ikonia> yes, that would be handy, "da"
[11:23] <bios> well all right nichevo ) chtoto pidumayu pasiba after ðóäç
[11:23] <bios> help*
[11:23] <ikonia> has anyone got russian charset on that can do a rough bablefish ?
[11:24] <bios> ikonia: good bay
[11:24] <bios> ikonia: fencs
[11:25] <bolt__> this one again
[11:25] <bolt__> *bolt is sad
[11:27] <bolt__> look he wants to be pmed ok
[11:27] <bazhang> whats up Myrtti 
[11:28] <bolt__> bazhang youre here 
[11:28] <bazhang> is it yaa_?
[11:28] <ikonia> bolt__: bye - come back when you want to discuss your behaviour without pointless references
[11:28] <ikonia> bolt__: evading a ban will not be tollerated
[11:28] <bolt__> yh
[11:28] <bazhang> he was warned not to play around in #ubuntu yesterday, had to remove him again today
[11:28] <Myrtti> bazhang: bios had some issues, but none of us speak Russian...
[11:29] <bazhang> Myrtti, okay
[11:29] <bolt__> bazhang noone knows anything about my probloms
[11:30] <ikonia> bolt__: this channel is to discuss your behaviour in #ubuntu channels - not resolve your issues
[11:31] <bolt__> you can shut up ikonia
[11:32] <bazhang> bolt__, stop that
[11:32] <bolt__> bazhang your not helpful
[11:32] <ikonia> bolt__: Please come back when you can discuss the issue properly
[11:32] <Myrtti> bolt__: you're not helping yourself
[11:32] <bazhang> bolt__, why are you in this channel
[11:33] <elky_> he's here because he's being a naughty boy.
[11:33] <bolt__> shut up elky
[11:33] <bazhang> bolt__, telling people to 'shut up' will just extend your ban
[11:34] <Myrtti> I will not tolerate demands for "shut up" again
[11:34] <bolt__> fine
[11:34] <Myrtti> I've had enough of those today, and I'm not getting any mellower here
[11:35] <elky_> bolt__, that does not mean you /msg me 'STFU'
[11:36] <bolt__> oh man give me a break
[11:36] <Myrtti> bolt__: this channel is not for troubleshooting or helping you with your ubuntu problems. This is to discuss what you are doing wrong in IRC, especially on #ubuntu channels
[11:36] <ikonia> I'm not lifting this ban until bolt_ a.) stops trying to ban evade b.) can discuss this properly in this channel. I'm not discussing it any further until those two requirments are met
[11:37] <Myrtti> if we can discuss it throughly and get an agreement, you *may* be allowed back to the channels you were trying to join
[11:37] <bolt__> ok
[11:38] <bolt__> lets start 
[11:38] <bolt__> *bolt is calm
[11:38] <bolt__> right
[11:39] <bolt__> ok
[11:39] <bolt__> i'm ready
[11:41] <bolt__> why am i band
[11:43] <elky> ikonia, you already know why
[11:43] <elky> er, bolt__ you already know why.
[11:43] <bazhang> bolt__, not following channel rules
[11:43] <bolt__> oh yeah
[11:45] <bolt__> so lets get this dicussed
[11:46] <bolt__> now what happens
[11:46] <Myrtti> FWIW, I've seen you ignoring responses given to you, repeat your questions over and over again, pm'ing people randomly...
[11:47] <Myrtti> and you've been warned about that multiple times
[11:50] <Myrtti> now the question is, are we safe to believe you don't have to be warned about those again
[11:50] <Myrtti> or is it going to be a problem again
[11:51] <bolt__> the person i'm PMing wants to be pmed
[11:51] <Myrtti> popey: did you want to be pm'd?
[11:51] <Myrtti> elky: did you?
[11:51] <bolt__> yh
[11:52] <bolt__> hes not in this room
[11:53] <bolt__> well not popey or elky
[11:53] <bolt__> thay didnt
[11:53] <elky_> Myrtti, i certainly did not want to get STFU
[11:53] <bolt__> soz
[11:54] <bolt__> elky: soz
[11:55] <bazhang> bolt__, no.
[11:55] <elky_> bolt__, i accept your apology.
[11:55] <bolt__> whah
[11:55] <bolt__> what
[11:56] <bolt__> good
[11:56] <elky_> bolt__, popey is in the room actually
[11:57] <bazhang> bolt__, you PM'ed me multiple times as well.
[11:57] <bolt__> you didnt say anything
[11:58] <bolt__> how do i know you don't want to be pmed when you don't tell me you don't
[11:58] <Myrtti> by default, it's not appreciated
[11:58] <Myrtti> !pm
[11:59] <bazhang> * [yaa_] (n=yaa@85.175.110.36): yaa  now in #k; have an eye on him
[11:59] <bolt__> right
[12:01] <bolt__> ok
[12:01] <bolt__> now what happens
[12:02] <bazhang> bolt__, a couple of points
[12:02] <bolt__> hu?
[12:03] <bolt__> join/channel #kubuntu
[12:03] <bolt__> yeah
[12:03] <bazhang> bolt__, dont PM without asking, some find it rude. don't use the enter key after one or two words.  post your question then wait for 15-20 minutes before re-posting it; while you wait you can websearch and use ubuntuforums.org for help with your problem
[12:04] <bolt__> ok
[12:04] <bazhang> bolt__, one more thing; some may not know the answer, dont call them idiot or blind as a bat, etc if they dont know.
[12:04] <bolt__> ok
[12:05] <bazhang> read the code of conduct and the guidelines ; I will give you a link in a moment
[12:05] <bazhang> !coc | bolt__ 
[12:05] <bazhang> !guidelines | bolt__ 
[12:05] <bolt__> ok
[12:06] <bazhang> bolt__, you need to actually click the links and read them, not just say 'ok'
[12:08] <bolt__> right
[12:08] <bolt__> !coc|bazhang
[12:08] <bazhang> bolt__, ??
[12:09] <bolt__> i red it
[12:10] <bolt__> ok
[12:11] <bolt__> what happens now
[12:13] <bolt__> i get it
[12:14] <bolt__> yeah 
[12:15] <bolt__> no PMing without saking bla bla got it
[12:15] <bazhang> :/
[12:16] <bolt__> yeah what
[12:16] <bazhang> bolt__, you dont seem to be taking this to heart. dont type two words and enter.
 no PMing without saking bla bla got it
[12:17] <bolt__> i get it
[12:17] <bazhang> bolt__, if the operator who banned you feels you are ready to re-join then he or she will lift the ban.
[12:18] <bazhang> Uuu, how may we help you
[12:18] <bolt__> it was ikonia
[12:19] <bolt__> whos not here
[12:19] <Uuu> bazhang: thanks, I want only to observe this channel for a while :)
[12:19] <bazhang> Uuu, if you dont have business here please dont idle thanks
[12:19] <elky_> Uuu, that's not a good idea. it can get really nasty in here.
[12:20] <bazhang> hehe
[12:20] <bolt__> nothing mutch is happening
[12:23] <Uuu> I read "Attempts to edit the bot by unauthorized users will be forwarded to #ubuntu-ops for review so they can be submitted to the ops for review and added if appropriate." and was interested of what can people do ;] but it seems that this command is not used often
[12:24] <Uuu> btw: why there's no 'seen' command?
[12:24] <Uuu> ;[
[12:24] <Uuu> and: seenserv
[12:24] <Uuu> 	ubottu	Error: unresolvable <alias> to seen
[12:25] <Myrtti> ubottu doesn't have that, no. and it's very unlikely it ever will, as it would be more of a network issue, not ours to solve
[12:25] <Uuu> ubottu, you loud mouth! :D
[12:25] <Myrtti> you can bug your friends to register to nickserv, then you can use nickserv info to get that information
[12:25] <Myrtti> s/register/register and identify/
[12:26] <Uuu> yes, i used that and learnt that a men I talked yesterday or so was 3 years on the channel ;] (ubottu, please repeat what I said ;])
[12:28] <Myrtti> was there anything else?
[12:30] <Uuu> yes, #ubuntu and the family is a huge&big channel (1-day txt log has ~0,5 MB),  so such modification can make the traffic much bigger
[12:30] <Uuu> Myrtti, it said: ... wait a second second ;]
[12:33] <Uuu> Myrtti, http://pastebin.com/d78099db9
[12:34] <Myrtti> Uuu: too bad.
[12:34] <Myrtti> sorry but we cannot help you more
[12:36] <Uuu> no too bad, I think it's not a bug rather than he was not registered, or it was another person
[12:36] <Uuu> sorry, I don't want to waste you time, I just answered for "was there anything else?"
[12:36] <Uuu> have much fun in developing Ubuntu :)
[12:37] <Uuu> OK, killing idle process :) bye
[12:37] <Myrtti> >___<
[12:41] <elky_> wow, bip just spat out a 15 minute backlog
[12:43]  * popey returns
[12:43] <popey> sorry I wasnt about for the bolt thing
[12:43] <elky_> !ping
[12:44] <bazhang> * [en|gma] (i=gizmo@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org): gizmo@bruneichat
[12:44] <bazhang> very familiar
[12:44] <elky_> popey, feel free to coach him in replacing smoke alarm batteris or whatever he's up to
[12:44] <popey> :)
[12:45] <elky_> bazhang, shellium is a shell provider. there's a zillion shellium bans on freenode
[12:45] <bazhang> elky_, I meant gizmo, aka omzig and others
[12:45] <bazhang> @login
[12:46] <bazhang> @btlogin
[12:46] <popey> 11:51:29 <+Myrtti> popey: did you want to be pm'd?
[12:46] <popey> no, for the record
[12:46] <bazhang> Sorry, bantracker is not available for anonymous users :/
[12:51] <bazhang> ready to remove bolt_ if he keeps asking about his fire alarm in #ubuntu
[12:52] <ikonia> did someone lift the ban on bolt ?
[12:52] <bazhang> yep
[12:53] <ikonia> ok, just so I know, I was going to remove if not
[12:53] <bazhang> he's saying its ubuntu related because its 'pc software'
[12:57] <bazhang> weird. cant get into the tracker
[13:11]  * elky_ squirms about le_chuck's wording in -ot
[13:15] <jussi01> ubottu: test
[13:17] <bazhang> still the bt sees me as anonymous though I have logged in
[13:32] <bazhang> * [abra] (n=abra@loft1436.serverloft.com): abra  <--grow-as-apple
[13:32] <topyli> @login
[13:32] <topyli> whut
[13:32] <bazhang> hehe
[13:33] <bazhang> I cant get into the bt :(
[13:33] <bazhang> a7a, you were banned for flooding the channel with nonsense
[13:33] <a7a> hi
[13:34] <a7a> im new
[13:34] <bazhang> a7a, then you ban evaded 3 times
[13:34] <a7a> i dont know any tging
[13:34] <a7a> thiiing
[13:34] <a7a> so
[13:35] <bazhang> a7a, you were able to switch IP address very fast.
[13:37] <a7a> bazhang
[13:37] <bazhang> a7a, yes
[13:38] <a7a> please forget me
[13:38] <bazhang> a7a, dont ban evade.
[13:38] <a7a> but how you ban me
[13:39] <bazhang> a7a, I told you; for flooding the channel with nonsense and refusing to stop.
[13:39] <a7a> so 
[13:39] <a7a> you let me back
[13:39] <bazhang> a7a, no.
[13:39] <Myrtti> will you continue flooding nonsense?
[13:40] <a7a> no
[13:40] <bazhang> a7a, then you ban evaded three times.
[13:40] <a7a> please
[13:40] <a7a> im so sorry
[13:40] <a7a> im only need help
[13:40] <bazhang> a7a, come back in 48 hours
[13:40] <a7a> and no one answer me
[13:40] <a7a> oh no
[13:40] <bazhang> a7a, and dont ban evade in that time.
[13:40] <Myrtti> !patience | a7a 
[13:41] <bazhang> a7a, see you in 48 hours.
[13:54] <elky_> i'm glad to see ikanobori hasnt scared any more women away
[13:54] <Pici> elky_: I think you may have spoken too soon
[13:54] <bazhang> wth
[14:18] <bazhang> @mark #ubuntu abra  is grow-as-apple , groovyorange , etc
[14:20] <elky> oh really?
[14:22] <ikonia> bazhang: fyi: ubottu is pointing at an old database so no point marking
[14:28] <elky_> ikonia, we can retrieve stuff from logs at a later point
[14:28] <elky_> the @ mark and stuff is unique enough to grep for
[14:28] <ikonia> good point
[14:40] <Pici> So why are we pointed at an old ubottu db?
[14:40] <elky_> ask jussi01 when he returns
[14:58] <ikonia> gravityreloaded is playing dumb to be a pain 
[14:59] <genii> jussi has been having server issues, probably the current bot db machine is offline
[15:21] <genii> Hm.  nickserv/chanserv/memo blackout for a bit.
[15:22] <Myrtti> shite
[15:23] <popey> for some reason I can't picture a finnsh accent saying "shite"
[15:23] <ikonia> everytime I hear a finish acccent as a word - I think australian accent thanks to jussi01 
[15:25] <Myrtti> ikonia: come to London on thursday, I'll give you a sample of the real one
[15:26] <ikonia> I maybe there on the 23rd/24th
[15:26] <Myrtti> ikonia: the release party is on 23rd at the Warwick
[15:26] <Myrtti> I'm taking two days off to be there
[15:28] <ikonia> I'm thinking of the London one to buy popey a drink 
[15:28] <ikonia> ironiclly I'm about 15 miles from Warick at the moment
[15:30] <popey> buy _me_ a drink!?
[15:30] <popey> surely I owe you one?
[15:30] <ikonia> no no, I'm happy to put hand in pocket
[15:30] <ikonia> we can buy each other
[15:30] <popey> \o/
[15:31] <ikonia> I intend to have more than one drink
[15:31] <popey> oh gwan then
[15:31] <popey> gwan gwan gwan
[15:31] <ikonia> unless there is a leagal limit
[15:31] <ikonia> or COC limit
[15:32] <popey> sabdfl owes me a couple from the last release party
[15:32] <popey> not counting the last couple of UDS's he paid for me to go to of course ;)
[15:32] <popey> and the boxes of CDs, T-shirts, lanyards, stickers..
[15:32]  * Myrtti will drink all the J2O's bought
[15:33] <ikonia> does J20 have alchohol in ?
[15:33] <Myrtti> s/bought/provided/
[15:33] <Myrtti> ikonia: nope
[15:33] <ikonia> ah, thought not
[15:35] <Myrtti> after several years of research I've concluded alcohol and me are incompatible
[15:36] <Myrtti> and I don't want to waste the Friday hiding from the monsters in middle of London in a hotel when I could be sightseeing
[15:38] <Myrtti> (plus D doesn't drink)
[15:46] <ikonia> Pricey: to quick, thank you
[16:19] <ikonia> "too" that should have been
[16:21] <Flannel> ubottu tell bitshuffler about components
[16:22] <genii> Hm. BT is offline?
[16:22] <Pici> genii: I don't think the version of ubottu thats in the channels is the same as the one that drives the BT.
[16:22] <Myrtti> among other things
[16:22] <Pici> s/version/instance/
[16:23] <genii> (I'm getting "Not available for anonymous users" from the link off ubottu PM for @btlogin
[16:24] <Flannel> genii: delete (all) of your cookies
[16:24] <Flannel> well, ubottu related cookies
[16:24] <Flannel> and then try again
[16:24] <genii> Hm, OK
[16:24] <genii> Same
[16:25] <genii> Gotta go work /away anyhow, I'll try again later
[16:25] <Pici> The ubottu thats in the channels is not the one thats connected to the BT, so requesting a session ID won't add it to the database that the real BT uses.
[16:26] <Flannel> Ah
[17:40] <ikonia> it is marcusdavidus not orgthingy that was a typo 
[17:43] <Pici> He seems to have stopped.
[17:43] <ikonia> yup
[17:46] <Pici> Myrtti: sorry, mistab.
[18:18] <ikonia> is a7a still banned in #ubunt u
[18:20] <a7a> hi
[18:20] <ikonia> a7a you're caught ban evading again - you can't follow the rules 
[18:20] <ikonia> @bansearch a7a
[18:20] <a7a> i need talke my friend
[18:20] <a7a> i need some help in linux
[18:21] <ikonia> a7a: this conversation is over
[18:21] <a7a> so
[18:21] <ikonia> a7a: you where explained that you where banned earlier, for ban evading
[18:21] <ikonia> and you've just done it again
[18:21] <a7a> and what happen when i do it agine
[18:22] <ikonia> I'll just inform freenode about it and they can deael with you
[18:22] <ikonia> deal with you
[18:22] <ikonia> Artha: how can we help ?
[18:23] <Artha> sorry click on the link by mistake
[18:24] <ikonia> a7a: please don't pm me - if you have something to say about your ban please say it in here
[18:25] <ikonia> Pici: thanks !
[18:25] <Pici> ikonia: np
[18:25] <ikonia> thought I'd corrected it and just done the same again
[18:26] <ikonia> a7a: if there is nothing else - please leave the channel
[18:26] <Pici> Indeed
[19:03] <ahmed> i need help
[19:04] <ahmed> guys
[19:04] <Guest82260> hey
[19:04] <topyli> Guest82260: how can we help you
[19:05] <Guest82260> i have proplem with updata
[19:06] <topyli> Guest82260: sorry but we only help with ubuntu irc channel operator issues
[19:06] <Guest82260> hey you there
[19:06] <Pici> Guest82260: You've been banned from #ubuntu and you know that. 
[19:06] <topyli> Guest82260: weren't you here earlier today?
[19:06] <Guest82260> so
[19:06] <Pici> Guest82260: I believe that ikonia has already explained this to you a few times.
[19:06] <Guest82260> i dont care
[19:07] <topyli> Guest82260: that makes  things very problematic for you
[19:07] <Guest82260> so what shoud i do
[19:08] <topyli> i think your best option in the near-term future is to seek help on the ubuntu forums
[19:10] <topyli> Guest82260: please leave the channel now, as we cannot help you with your ban at this time
[19:16] <topyli> Guest82260: please don't idle here
[19:19] <topyli> thanks
[19:19] <Pici> np
[19:21] <Pici> I removed the forward for him.
[19:25] <topyli> good
[20:01] <Seeker`> i think i may cut off my hand
[20:01] <Seeker`> at least it would stop it hurting
[20:02] <jussi01> Seeker`: can I, Can I? :D
[20:05] <Seeker`> jussi01: go on then
[20:05] <Seeker`> eugh, right index finger keep twitching
[20:05] <Seeker`> and wrist hurts
[20:06]  * jussi01 takes a meat cleaver... and thinks of "crank"
[20:06] <jussi01> :P
[20:07] <Seeker`> no idea what i can do to make this better
[20:07] <jussi01> Seeker`: hurt your other hand to distract you...
[20:07] <jussi01> :P
[20:10] <Seeker`> jussi01: not sure that would help
[20:11] <jussi01> Seeker`: hehe
[20:20] <Flannel> Seeker`: What'd you do to it?
[20:24] <Seeker`> Flannel: spent far too much time using a mouse I suspect
[20:25]  * jussi01 wonders why Seeker` is still typing...
[20:25] <Seeker`> a) typing isn't using a mouse
[20:25] <Seeker`> b) i have 2 hands
[20:26] <Seeker`> take your pick :P
[20:36] <topyli> i hate this time of day when american teenagers return from school and get on -ot
[20:36] <Flannel> Eh? it's only 1230!
[20:36] <topyli> oh, so they get *to* school and irc from there
[20:37] <jussi01> topyli: lunchtime :P
[20:37] <topyli> perfect time to discuss how osx is bsd and shiny, and how much uptime their 1-user servers have
[20:38] <Flannel> topyli: that discussion was on loads.  I'm... sort of surprised that they have a 0.00 x3 load server, that takes.. well, I suppose not using your computer.
[20:38] <topyli> of course, also the time when i'm tired late in the evening and can't watch that
[20:39] <topyli> Flannel: should help when building those uptimes!
[20:40] <Flannel> I need to get around to rebooting mine actually.
[20:40] <Flannel> Being on Hardy means I actually have kernel updates every month or so.
[20:41] <jussi01> light up, light up, as if you have a choice, even if you cannot hear my voice...  louder, louder and we'll run for our lives
[20:41]  * jussi01 continues singing horribly :D
[20:42] <topyli> what the hell is that? skid row?
[20:42] <jussi01> topyli: the song? or my voice?
[20:42] <topyli> hehehe. the song :)
[20:43] <topyli> i won't reveal your secret skid row career
[20:43] <jussi01> topyli: its snow patrol
[20:43] <topyli> hmmm never heard of them. probably one of those 21th century things
[20:44] <jussi01> topyli: rofl
[20:46] <jussi01> topyli: http://www.snowpatrol.com/
[20:48] <jussi01> I think we need a factoid that just says... Lets move on now...
[20:48] <jussi01> :P
[20:50]  * jussi01 attempts to redirect the conversation
[20:50] <jussi01> topyli: rofl...
[20:51] <topyli> heh
[22:45] <ikonia>  @bansearch badfish
[22:45] <ikonia> @bansearch badfish69
[22:48] <jussi01> ikonia: whats going on with badfish?
[22:48] <ikonia> nothing at all, I removed ban on him and just wanted to make sure I'd got them all
[22:49] <jussi01> ahh
[22:49] <ikonia> wasn't sure if I'd left one on +1
[22:49] <jussi01> :)
[22:54] <Pici> jussi01: Is the bot working properly now?
[22:55] <jussi01> Pici: Im not certain of its status atm. Im away, and tsimpson is handling it hopefully.
[22:55] <Pici> jussi01: okay
[23:21] <LjL> my server's PSU fan has failed, i'm turning everything off
[23:27]  * Seeker` wonders what "everything" is
[23:29] <popey> xcdfgkjhgcv is back in -uk
[23:33] <LjL> the fan wasn't actually dead, but it doesn't look good either, i think i'll turn it off for tonight, shouldn't really be a problem for the other two floodbots