[00:11] I have 1 gig swap and as you said, rarely using any :) [02:05] God annoying bug with xfce4-terminal alt+2 stops working all th etime in the terminal for somereaosn. [02:05] Makes switching between windows annoying [04:09] HI [04:09] when i open browser or xchat [04:09] its not showing up in [04:09] task bar [04:09] help me [04:14] anyone online ?? [05:55] is there a consolidated page with changes/additions from 8.10 to 9.04? [06:06] i dunno if i should upgrade when it becomes official... [06:07] for xubuntu [06:08] 9.04 has a new version of Xfce [06:08] xfce 4.6, ext4 support, linux 2.6.28... [06:08] openoffice 3 [06:08] i will install as soon as will be released [06:08] hmm... is there an official list somewhere? [06:09] i cannot find it on ubuntu.com or google [06:09] look in www.xubuntu.org [06:09] www.ubuntu.com have a list [06:09] is .org official? the nub/ugly design looks somewhat suspicious... [06:10] ugly design? [06:11] ubuntu.org does not look related to the ubuntu linux project... is it related? [06:11] ubuntu.org is indeed [06:11] Moodier, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/JauntyJackalope/RC for the release candidate announcement [06:12] Moodier, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904overview [06:13] ahh, cool. thanks cody-somerville and forces. i see the highlights of changes [06:13] ubuntu.org does indeed look ugly however -- and somewhat unrelated to their linux project [06:14] do you know when the RC is going to move into production? [06:14] i thought it was supposed to be several days ago... [06:19] 4 days [06:19] forces: kewl [06:21] if i were to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04, but i had uninstalled Listen, will Listen be re-installed again after the upgrade? [06:21] or for that matter, anything else i had uninstalled from 8.10 [06:23] i also made modifications to the font colors (i.e. Abiword)... will those changes remain if i upgrade to 9.04? [06:30] how did you make changes to the font colors? [06:31] if you changed something in /etc, or /home your changes should be touched [06:32] i had to change ~/.gtkrc-2.0 -- so that will remain untouched upon upgrade? [06:33] "your changes should be touched" -- not sure what that means [06:40] sorry, was thinking backwards.. [06:40] Moodier, are your personal settings will be retained [06:40] *all [06:40] the upgrade shouldn't break anything under ~/ [06:41] what about custom uninstallations from the base xubuntu 8.10 original distro? will those be re-installed? [06:41] did you have to remove the xubuntu-desktop package to uninstall things? [06:42] hmmm.... i don't think so.. i used sudo apt-remove specific packages [07:22] hey [07:24] !hi | Hetor_ [07:24] Hetor_: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! === Roonux__ is now known as Roonux [09:07] Xfce 4.6.1 is out. Will it be uploaded to Jaunty's updates? [09:25] hi [09:25] anyone in here usin e17? [11:46] Hi! Currently xubuntu shows the folder Deskop on the Desktop, how do I get it to show the folder Skrivbord (desktop in Swedish) instead? [12:25] hi there :) i'm trying to create a live-disk for xubuntu from the iso in windows, but I only have dvd-rw disks and i can't find a dvd iso anywhere, will it still work okay if i use the cd iso? [12:30] Lusule_, I think cd iso should be ok [12:32] thanks :) [12:37] Hi all, having trouble getting eth0 interface working, lost it on 2 laptops a couple of days ago after an update .. both machines running xubuntu 8.10 .. is it normal that "ifconfig -a" reports eth0 as UP and nm-applet show "no network connection" ? [13:05] cylonia: that's happened to me before -- could be that wired/wireless option is not checked in nm-applet [13:06] Moodier: yes, i double-checked that, enable networking is checked [13:08] cylonia: does ping work? [13:11] Moodier: yes it does, i also lost keyboard/touchpads on both laptops at the same time as the wired connection, so i had to check in tty, but it does ping allright [13:14] lynx works as well in tty, seems like network-manager is acting strangely, going to reinstall it and see what gives, thx moodier [13:14] cylonia: if you lost keyboard, touchpad, and wired connection simultaneously, something is seriously wrong w/ your system -- it's not simply an ethernet issue [13:15] cylonia: try a sudo apt-get update and upgrade [13:15] Moodier: ok thx, trying ... [13:22] Moodier: can't say i fully understand why, but network connection is up and working, although nm-applet shows "no connection" .. thanks for your help :) [13:23] cylonia: did you try sudo apt-get update and upgrade? [13:24] Moodier: yes, it works [13:24] just received an update, so now only the keyboard/touchpad issue remains [13:24] cylonia: those commands checks to see if you have any missing dependencies or outdated software and installs them [13:25] cylonia: did your keyboard/touchpad ever work? if it broke, what were you doing when it broke? [13:26] Moodier: okay, it didn't report missing dependencies, both laptops were running fine for over a year on xubuntu so yes it worked before .. things broke after an update of pulseaudio and tzdata two days ago [13:27] Moodier: although i wouldn't think pulseaudio would mess with network configuration would it ? [13:28] cylonia: not sure [13:29] cylonia: i wouldn't think so [13:29] Moodier: i already checked for possible bugs on the latest pulseaudio update on launchpad, nothing related showed up indeed [13:29] cylonia: does your keyboard/trackpad completely not work at all? [13:30] Moodier: both work in tty's but not in X [13:30] cylonia: could be a problem with xfce then [13:30] how are you starting X? [13:31] Moodier: via gdm running a regular xfce session [13:33] cylonia: read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1040677 [13:34] Moodier: i thought the newer Xorg configured keyboard/touchpad etc. via HAL ? going over some documentation at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/InputHotplug .. looking into your link thank you [13:37] cylonia: you can also try reconfiguring xserver: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [13:38] cylonia: if you want to brush up on it, read http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/how_to_fix_your_computers_graphics_with_dpkg-reconfigure [13:39] Moodier: okay, looks like i need to read up on things, thanks again for your help :) [13:40] cylonia: np [14:56] Hi all [15:07] my xubuntu wubi cannot access windows drives D E and F [15:28] re === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [15:36] Hey all. [15:37] Is power management with straight xubuntu different than ubuntu? I cannot seem to get my lappy to sleep on lid close with the RC of xubu. [15:38] I thought I set it in xubu's power settings. [15:53] Pres-Gas, it should work [15:55] cody-somerville, do you think it needs a restart? [15:56] Pres-Gas, won't hurt :) [15:56] It just so happens that I have it off...so I guess it is a delayed restart ;) [15:56] Hey guys, i'm trying to use the NX web-interface plugin... how do I create a session file? [15:57] This is my first ragin' full on xubu install. I usually install Ubu (for support purposes) and then put xubu on top of that. [16:27] hi [16:28] I have a problem - can anyone help me? [16:28] !question [16:28] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [16:29] my resolution was weird when I booted up today so I corrected it by adjusting my CRT monitor. However it's now all distorted and I've tried running Freeciv and Wormux and their windows are both too big to fit on the screen and I can't find any way around this problem. help? [16:31] I'm quite sure my resolution was higher before (1024*768 I think) but the highest I can get it is 960*540 [16:38] FelineMonstrosit, if you do (from the terminal) "xvidtune -show" it will output what your current resolution is. You don't have to run it as admin. [16:42] Right now it's 960*600. Is there any way I can set it maunally? [16:44] FelineMonstrosit, can you go into the settings manager and then select Display and bump it up that way? [16:45] Like I said the highest it will let me set it is 900*540 [16:46] FelineMonstrosit, what is your graphics card? [16:47] dunno. pretty bad I'm sure - this is an old computer. how can I check? [16:51] FelineMonstrosit, try lspci [16:54] Hm. I don't understand (I'm afraid I'm very new to ubuntu) [16:56] You will have to run the command "lspci|less" in the terminal and look for something like "VGA compatible controller" [17:01] Okay, I don't seem to have jre running on my machine even though it is installed via xubuntu-restricted-extras [17:02] I see the openjdk jre installed [17:02] hmmm... [17:03] "VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter" [17:07] Xfce 4.6.1 is out. Will it be uploaded to the Jaunty Updates? [17:08] Okay, FelineMonstrosit, I would do a google search with: Silicon Integrated Systems 65x/M650/740 linux resolution [17:08] see what pops up [17:08] ok [17:09] ...unless someone here chimes in...you could also try the #ubuntu channel [17:09] chewit: I think that is the plan right now. It won't make the final release, since their is not enough time. [17:09] talking about Xfce... [17:09] ah ok [17:09] FelineMonstrosit, tell them the card make and model... [17:09] if I upgrade my Xfce 4.4 installation to 4.6, will my settings work properly? [17:09] no, Hetor. There are complete configuration changes. [17:10] oh noes [17:10] I have spend 30 minutes of my life in vine :| [17:10] hi there :) i have a small problem, I was fiddling with my panel, tried moving the icon list from one panel to another and all my panels seem to have disappeared, i can't get htem back and choosing the 'panel' settings doesn't do anything anymore [17:11] so... themes for 4.4 won't work too? :'( [17:11] I don't "vine", but maybe those are going to work. [17:11] !panels [17:11] Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ [17:11] Themes should still work [17:11] nice [17:11] but if you upgrade and try to keep the ~/.config, it breaks [17:12] thanks charlie-tca that fixed it :) [17:12] Lusule_: You are welcome [17:13] how sad to hear it after I've just ended decorating my Xfce desktop [17:13] :( [17:13] I'll have to redo everything again... that sucks [17:13] Sorry, but the good news is 8.10 is valid for another year! [17:14] I gonna upgrade to 9.04 anyway [17:14] I am using it. I think it is way better than 8.10 [17:14] not a fan of beta testing [17:15] I prefer stable releases [17:15] final should be out thursday [17:15] yeah I know [17:15] Testing has been fun... my system only went down a little bit, and broke for just a few days at a time. [17:16] heh [17:16] will beta testers be able to upgrade to final realease? [17:16] As long it is kept upgraded, it is automatic [17:16] s/upgraded/updated [17:23] I want to test some translations on XFCE I am using ubuntu 8.10 with gnome and xfce both. How do I check these translations? [17:24] I have copied the files to /usr/share/locale/ur folder already but during the login my language is not in the list of languages even though I have installed support for it from System > Administration > Language support [17:24] uhh, client crashed [18:29] How can I sort the icons on the Desktop? [18:31] in XFCE? [18:37] hi [18:37] !hi | kromar [18:37] kromar: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [18:38] i had a problem with blender which locked everything and i had to power off the computer to get it running again. now it wont open anymore, i tried reinstalling it but it doesent help:( any idea how to fix this? [18:41] how do i clear out a saved session for logging on? [18:43] how come I can't find the Opera browser in synaptic? [18:44] asked myself the same question... just download it from their page [18:46] if you already installed it you can find it in the "installed (local or obsolete)" section [18:46] nobody knows how to fix the blender problem? [18:48] Lusule_, did you enable the partner repos in the Third_Party software tab? [18:49] !info opera [18:49] Package opera does not exist in intrepid [18:49] charlie-tca, yeah, just saw that as well [18:49] :P [18:49] Pres-Gas, ah no, I shall have to look into that, thanks [18:50] Lusule_, it may not be there...you may have to install it direct from their site [18:50] i find it weird that they don't have opera, anyone know the reason? [18:50] and opera was not in Hardy [18:50] charlie-tca, i've been using gentoo for ages [18:51] I don't know if it was in 7.10 or not. [18:51] Is opera being maintaing? [18:51] maintained [18:51] appears so from the webpage, they've got tonnes of cool new stuff [18:52] Maybe it was not for a while, or it was broken bad for a while. Now it would need a maintainer to package it. [18:52] i remember it being a bit crap in the past, looks like some professional company has now taken an interest [18:52] because i've been using it for a while and it's fantastic [18:54] how can i get blender starting again? [19:40] how can i start blender with a custom window size? for example 1024x768? [19:41] Yeah, kromar needs help.. [19:41] hi [19:41] Someone help him please. [19:41] Photoguy, ehem? [19:41] knome, What? [19:42] nothing. [19:42] PM me...there is something wrong. [19:42] not really [19:42] :] [19:42] Ok [19:43] how do I get Xfce 4.6.1 installed in Xubuntu 9.04? Is there a repository with the latest packages? [19:43] Caffeine, not yet at least. [19:43] Caffeine: it is not packaged yet for xubuntu [19:43] too bad :( [19:43] What are the important changes? [19:44] charlie-tca, bigger di... version number [19:44] kromar: you may need to ask in #ubuntu, they will have more users [19:44] when the packages are ready, will an installation instruction published on xubuntu.org? [19:44] knome: that is what I was thinking, too [19:44] Caffeine: what are the important changes? [19:44] charlie-tca, mostly bugfixes [19:44] kromar, or #blender [19:45] When it is ready, it will probably be updated in Xubuntu 9.04 [19:45] charlie-tca, see http://www.xfce.org/documentation/changelogs/4.6.1 [19:45] Caffeine, we know. [19:45] Caffeine, charlie-tca wanted to know if there if was some specifig bug fix you need? [19:45] I just wanted to know what was so important, to get to it as soos as possible? [19:45] oh, i see [19:46] no :) just love bleeding edge ;) [19:46] So, are you running jaunty? [19:46] yep [19:47] Give us about two months, you will have karmic to play with [19:47] ok, to be honest, most time I wait until the final release. With jaunty however I couldn't resist and installed the beta [19:48] alphas are a no-go for me however [19:48] alphas are bleeding edge. [19:48] pre-alpha is over the edge [19:48] ;) [19:49] riight ;) [19:49] So, Caffeine, you are ready to break jaunty, but won't test an OS alpha [19:49] tbh i would be ready to install anything on my machine as somebody else maintains it [19:49] in my *production* machine [19:50] i depend on so little apps that doesn't really matter as long as it boots [19:50] that's a bit different ... if Xfce 4.6.1 breaks, I can still downgrade. but a whole OS? [19:50] oh-oh. that is almost always a bad idea on production machines [19:51] I have run jaunty since alpha2, it only broke the system a few days at a time. [19:51] by the way, however here is working on (X)ubuntu, you did a great job! I've been a KDE guy from the start but I really like Xubuntu/Xfce [19:52] however = whoever [19:52] I can pass that to the developers. I just test [19:52] charlie-tca, thanks. [19:52] yw, knome [19:52] charlie-tca, passed. [19:52] Great [19:52] the thanks was meant to Caffeine, but isn't wrong even for you [19:53] knome, is that KDE + Gnome? ;) [19:53] * charlie-tca thought little guys on travelocity... [19:53] Caffeine, nope, it's xfce :> [19:54] KDE + Gnome = Xfve [19:54] Xfce ... i knew it [19:55] ;) [19:56] i actually had this nick before knowing the linux world this much. [19:56] i was still using windows and wanted a nick starting with k, and i had gnome previously and that lead to many nick clashes [19:56] that's why -> knome [19:57] ah, ok [20:10] my dvd doesn't automount? [20:16] hi there - I got a laptop from a friend which has a fairly messed up installation - when booting the system will show an undecorated dialog box saying something like "No gnome installation found entering recovery console" - not literally as the system is in Spanish, The point is I can't for the love of it get rid of the gnome stuff - I followed a howto from psychocats.net how the remove anything from ubuntu and have a pure xubuntu system but no [20:16] the x11 runs gdm as display manager - is that correct? [20:17] BooVeMan_work, yes. [20:17] (I'm a kubuntu user - so I have no reference system [20:17] so how do I tell the system to startup xfce and not genome? [20:18] BooVeMan_work, in gdm, there should be a session selector [20:18] right no selector [20:18] did you have autologin enabled? [20:18] I never get that far [20:18] no [20:18] (that would bein gdm.conf - right? [20:19] zoredache: autologin is configured in gdm.conf? [20:19] BooVeMan_work, if you don't have autologin, you should be able to change the session [20:19] I never get a login-prompt [20:20] so you have the autologin [20:20] knome: thats configures in gdm.conf? [20:20] BooVeMan_work, not sure where it's configured [20:20] are you sure you are translating the error message correctly? [20:22] guess so hows your spanish? "No se pudo encontrar la instalación de Gnome" [20:23] in gdm.conf I have AutoLoginEnabled=false [20:23] AutoLogin= [20:27] i have vlc and totem but none of the is playing .wma files .. audio wma on totm says error - Windows Media Speech decoder required [20:28] BooVeMan_work, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4752601&postcount=6 [20:28] !info xubuntu-restricted-extras | Kangarooo [20:28] xubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 25 (intrepid), package size 4 kB, installed size 32 kB [20:28] Kangarooo, try to install that [20:29] libavcodec52 will be removed libavutil49 will be removed.. thats ok? [20:30] Kangarooo, if something similar is installed, then it is ok [20:30] knome: thanks will try that [20:30] BooVeMan_work, np. === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [20:36] knome: no didnt helped [20:37] Kangarooo, right. [20:38] !wma | Kangarooo [20:38] Kangarooo: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [20:38] totem gives still same error and vlc playback line goes but no sound but when change audio cahannel in vlc to audio 1 i get error p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; } No suitable decoder module: VLC does not support the audio or video format "wmas". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this. [20:39] "wmas" or "wma" ? [20:40] file is wma but vlc gave that error .. and in forums i found thtat restricted are not helping that why im in irc asking :) [20:41] in forums some ppl even used wine and windows player ... [20:41] i can send wma file>? on irc.. [20:42] ah, wmas is some kind of drm-file? :P [20:43] i dont know.. extension is wma [20:43] 90 Seconds or Less1a.wma [20:43] sounds like one. [20:43] whats drm? [20:43] digital rights management [20:44] ou yeah in forums some ppl were talking about thuse digital rights managemet files [20:44] google for more information, you should know by now :P [20:44] hmm - alright the gnome thingy disapeared - now I have a black screen with the circular thingy rotating and nothing more [20:44] like something in the gdm instalation is screwed [20:44] BooVeMan_work, maybe reinstall gdm? [20:45] I already tried a dpkg-reconfigure -plow gdm [20:45] still no dice [20:45] or do you mead remove gdm an reinstall xubuntu-desktop? [20:46] (and delete anything related to gdm between) [20:46] i'm not sure... [20:46] maybe reinstalling (remove --purge & install) would help [20:46] ll try that [20:47] what else may be the couse that I'm not presented a login - AUtoLogin is Definatly not enabled [20:47] yeah [20:50] 'lo === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [21:44] Can someone help me with an error when I try to open synaptic package manager I get this message E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. [21:44] E: _cache->open() failed, please report. [21:44] what should I do? [21:44] loren_: open a terminal and type "dpkg --configure -a" and hit enter [21:45] o-k [21:46] all I get in the next line is > is it o-k now? [21:47] did I do something wrong [21:47] no misstypes something [21:47] without the " [21:47] I'll try again [21:48] do I put any spaces and " in the command [21:49] all I get is > [21:49] o-k [21:49] HIt Ctrl+c and leave out the quotes only [21:49] do not put the " [21:49] got to have the spaces. [21:50] o-k I'm doing something wrong please wait a minute [21:51] loren@loren-desktop:~$ [21:51] Did I do it right? [21:51] yes [21:51] thank you very much:) [21:52] You are welcome [21:52] I appreciate your help [21:52] bye [21:52] no problem. [21:52] come back again [21:59] loren@loren-desktop:~$ dpkg --configure -a [21:59] dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege [21:59] what do I do now? [22:00] sudo dpkg --configure -a [22:00] o-k [22:00] It'll ask you for you pwd [22:01] loren@loren-desktop:~$ [22:01] It did ask and install something and now I'm back to this [22:01] is it o-k now? [22:02] yes, you should be able to use synaptic again now. Be sure to hit the reload arrow in the top left corner, though., [22:03] It's working now thank you again very much:) [22:06] You are welcome [23:37] help [23:38] most of my file associations are all messed up