| aleite | @JontheEchid: I found the problem with the opengl lib | 00:29 |
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| vorian | eeeewwwwwwwwwwwww | 01:15 |
| vorian | nhandler is gnoming it up on the planet | 01:15 |
| JontheEchidna | I bet all the dudes in #ubuntu-devel were going "eww, JontheEchidna is KDEing up the planet with his silly weather wallpaper" :P | 01:17 |
| vorian | haha | 01:17 |
| seele | any idea why Login Manager in SYstem Settings opens in a new window? apparently it doesnt do that in trunk | 01:26 |
| Gon | I just compile the port to KDE4 Konversation, I think is very good, I think that quassel was a very bad choice for jaunty | 01:27 |
| seele | 1) konversation wasn't available when the decision needed to be made | 01:28 |
| seele | 2) a lot of people are happy with quassel | 01:28 |
| jjesse | good evening back to my sound problem, when i boot from the kernel for 2.6.27-11 i have sound, but if i boot from kernel 2.6.28-11 i get no sound, any ideas? | 01:28 |
| jjesse | +1 to seele | 01:28 |
| Gon | quassel are beatiful, but doesn't have complete support for irc functions | 01:29 |
| Gon | ex: doesn't have DCC | 01:29 |
| Gon | :( | 01:29 |
| Gon | Further, the "buffers" are very uncomfortable | 01:29 |
| Gon | :/ | 01:30 |
| jjesse | Gon: I actually have learned to enjoy how quassel is setup and how it works | 01:30 |
| jjesse | however i bet that konverstation for kde4 will be eventually packaged if it isn't and available for install | 01:31 |
| Gon | :) | 01:31 |
| vorian | it will be backported | 01:31 |
| Gon | I think Konversation is the best we could have an eventual 9.04.1 | 01:32 |
| Gon | :D | 01:32 |
| vorian | there will be no 9.04.1, jaunty is not LTS | 01:33 |
| Gon | :( | 01:33 |
| vorian | there will be backports available | 01:33 |
| vorian | and to be honest, quassel has my vote to remain the default irc client | 01:33 |
| Gon | without dcc? | 01:34 |
| Gon | :s | 01:34 |
| vorian | that :s thingie crashed my system | 01:36 |
| vorian | :P | 01:36 |
| Gon | I thought that the paradigm of kde4, was able to have non-castrated software as some other desktop manager whose icon is a foot | 01:37 |
| Gon | xD | 01:37 |
| ScottK | Gon: The main use case for the IRC client on CD is for user support. DCC isn't needed for that. Konversation is still around and can be used. | 01:43 |
| ScottK | I expect it will be an interesting discussion around the default for 9.10. | 01:44 |
| Gon | ok | 01:44 |
| ScottK | Sput: What are the odds of DCC support for 0.5? | 01:45 |
| ScottK | He's one of the quassel devs. | 01:45 |
| ScottK | Gon: One of the other advantages for us is that because Quassel is a relatively smaller project being the default client for Kubuntu is a big deal for them. They are very responsive when we have suggestions/feedback. | 01:46 |
| Gon | Konversation was already known and easy to use | 01:47 |
| ScottK | But not KDE4. | 01:48 |
| Gon | :s | 01:48 |
| ScottK | Although we didn't quite make it, we made the decision as part of a feature goal for Jaunty to have only KDE4 apps on the CD. | 01:48 |
| ScottK | IIRC we got everything except OOo integration to KDE4. | 01:49 |
| JontheEchidna | seele: The Login Manager needs root permissions. If we didn't open it in a separate window with admin permissions it wouldn't work at all :( | 01:52 |
| JontheEchidna | K3b is the only other thing that isnt' KDE4 | 01:53 |
| JontheEchidna | the frustrating thing is that it was *almost* good enough, but burning CD/DVD images was busted | 01:54 |
| JontheEchidna | so when I do apt-cache rdepends kdelibs4c2a, adept-manager show up even though I've not had that package installed since hardy | 01:56 |
| JontheEchidna | is there any way to get rid of it? | 01:56 |
| JontheEchidna | (for the rdepends listing) | 01:56 |
| JontheEchidna | s/for/from | 01:56 |
| JontheEchidna | lol? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu | 01:59 |
| * JontheEchidna points at the Kubuntu desktop pic | 01:59 | |
| JontheEchidna | Since when did we become Kubundora? | 02:00 |
| vorian | HA! | 02:00 |
| vorian | :/ | 02:00 |
| vorian | actually, it's not so funny | 02:00 |
| JontheEchidna | blasphemy! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kubuntuoffice.png | 02:02 |
| vorian | OMG | 02:02 |
| JontheEchidna | gotta admit that that's pretty snazzy looking... | 02:02 |
| JontheEchidna | Wine is an amazing thing | 02:02 |
| vorian | pfft | 02:02 |
| vorian | blender | 02:02 |
| JontheEchidna | you put your Wine in a Blender? | 02:03 |
| JontheEchidna | :D | 02:03 |
| vorian | i would | 02:03 |
| vorian | sheesh, we have 4.2.3 next week eh? | 02:04 |
| vorian | and 4.3 beta the following week | 02:04 |
| JontheEchidna | yep | 02:04 |
| vorian | awesome | 02:04 |
| JontheEchidna | we're gonna wanna get some merges in before then though... | 02:05 |
| JontheEchidna | my poor CPU | 02:05 |
| vorian | eeew | 02:05 |
| vorian | why not wait till post 4.2.3 to merge, then karmic should be good to go | 02:06 |
| JontheEchidna | before KDE 4.3 anything | 02:07 |
| JontheEchidna | is what I meant to say | 02:07 |
| vorian | ah, good :) | 02:07 |
| JontheEchidna | oh | 02:07 |
| JontheEchidna | also come to think of it I made kdeplasma-addons depend on kdewallpapers and kdebase-workspace-wallpapers in trunk :D | 02:07 |
| vorian | ha! | 02:08 |
| JontheEchidna | not a hard dependency, but you'll get a lot of not weather wallpapes if you don't have those | 02:08 |
| vorian | actually, why even bother with merging 4.2* in karmic? why not just jump into 4.3? | 02:08 |
| JontheEchidna | you mean, wait for 4.3 of some sort to hit debian, then merge?\ | 02:09 |
| vorian | yes | 02:09 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm | 02:09 |
| JontheEchidna | I like the sound of that | 02:09 |
| vorian | since 4.3 will be the focus etc... :) | 02:09 |
| JontheEchidna | that way we don't have to worry so much about rebuilding 40 times for .install changes | 02:09 |
| vorian | right-o | 02:10 |
| JontheEchidna | which is why it took us 2 weeks to do this last time | 02:10 |
| vorian | haha | 02:10 |
| JontheEchidna | we were a week late, if I remember | 02:11 |
| JontheEchidna | and it was my first time as ninja coordinator | 02:11 |
| Gon | [20:59] <JontheEchidna> lol? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu | 02:11 |
| Gon | [20:59] * JontheEchidna points at the Kubuntu desktop pic | 02:11 |
| Gon | [21:00] <JontheEchidna> Since when did we become Kubundora? | 02:11 |
| Gon | WTF! | 02:11 |
| jjesse | back to that wikpedia picture, whose desktop is that? doesn't look at all like mine | 02:13 |
| JontheEchidna | It's definitely not default | 02:14 |
| ScottK | I'd merge 4.2.2 (since we know it's the same version), skip 4.2.3 for Karmic (just jaunty-proposed), and go straight to the 4.3 beta in Karmic. | 02:14 |
| nixternal | why do puppies decide to go to the bathroom right under the computer desk? | 02:14 |
| vorian | cuz it's warm and safe | 02:14 |
| JontheEchidna | I should post my desktop w/ the Dark Knight skydome on wikipedia :D | 02:15 |
| ScottK | Because that's where they get your attention and attention == love even if you're yelling. | 02:15 |
| JontheEchidna | s/desktop/desktop cube | 02:15 |
| * vorian likes his current desktop | 02:15 | |
| vorian | http://machine-crusade.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/foo.png | 02:15 |
| jjesse | nixternal: don't you beet them? | 02:16 |
| nixternal | I need to | 02:16 |
| * ScottK wonders how vegetables got into the conversation? | 02:16 | |
| jjesse | vorian: i get a blank file whne i click on your destkop link | 02:16 |
| nixternal | heh, just caught that | 02:16 |
| jjesse | me too | 02:16 |
| vorian | oh? | 02:16 |
| jjesse | ah now it shows up | 02:17 |
| vorian | ah, ok :) | 02:17 |
| JontheEchidna | vorian: which plasma theme is that? | 02:17 |
| JontheEchidna | reminds me of KDE 4.0 in a good way | 02:17 |
| vorian | oxyglass more | 02:17 |
| * JontheEchidna always did like that glass ring around the plasmoids in 4.0 | 02:17 | |
| vorian | yes! | 02:17 |
| vorian | that was the best | 02:18 |
| jjesse | oxyglass? | 02:18 |
| vorian | although, the kewlness on the kicker is the stasks plasmoid | 02:18 |
| Gon | [21:17] <vorian> oxyglass more <= beatiful theme | 02:18 |
| Gon | is my current theme :D | 02:18 |
| vorian | ^5 Gon | 02:19 |
| vorian | :) | 02:19 |
| jjesse | ooo oxyglass looks nice :) | 02:19 |
| vorian | it's 'oxyglass more' | 02:19 |
| Gon | without compositing looks nice too | 02:19 |
| vorian | there are like 3 oxyglass themes iirc | 02:19 |
| * vorian steals cake whilst everyone is looking for new themes | 02:20 | |
| jjesse | is there a widget that shows my tasks from kontact? | 02:26 |
| nixternal | stasks needs to fix its memory leaks before I try it again | 02:32 |
| nixternal | it was the reason my laptop kept locking up | 02:32 |
| jjesse | ah | 02:35 |
| joshjtl | hey folks... anyone recommend a tag editor for audio files? (kde4 prefferably) | 02:35 |
| ScottK | vorian: Great post. Thanks. | 02:41 |
| vorian | no man, thank you | 02:41 |
| Gon | a question... | 02:42 |
| Gon | why kdepimlibs5-dev has libboost as dependency? | 02:43 |
| ScottK | seele: Are you connected with http://www.wouwlabs.com/blogs/anniec/?p=30 project at all? | 02:43 |
| ScottK | Gon: Because kdepimlibs builds against boost so you'll want those headers available too. | 02:43 |
| Gon | :o | 02:44 |
| nhandler | vorian: Sorry about the gnome script, but I needed something to make my gnome desktop more useful while restricted to an ubuntu live cd | 02:57 |
| ScottK | I totally can't believe no one has mentioned that the comics widget has lolcats now. | 03:02 |
| ScottK | OK, so here's an interesting problem .... When I click on the K menu, only the bottom millimeter or two and a little square in the upper right/left corner appears. I tried shutdown/restart and it's still there. | 03:11 |
| Sir-Gon | theme fail? | 03:17 |
| ScottK | Sorted it. | 03:21 |
| ScottK | Switched to classic menu style and switched back. | 03:21 |
| JontheEchidna | whoa, neat: http://leogg.wordpress.com/2009/04/20/ubuntu-cd-labels/ | 04:07 |
| nixternal | http://matthew.gwos.org <- is that even possible? | 04:09 |
| vorian | DAMN YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! | 04:09 |
| vorian | nixternal: do you want a free ipod? | 04:10 |
| nixternal | nope | 04:11 |
| nixternal | I am sure there is some poor sap at starbucks who might want one though | 04:12 |
| vorian | /hilight http://matthew.gwos.org | 04:12 |
| * vorian has almost a dozen links to the same damn destination | 04:13 | |
| vorian | i should have known better, as it's gwos.org | 04:14 |
| nixternal | ya, I just learned about that myself | 04:15 |
| nixternal | nhandler got me with one that was even worse than being rick rolled | 04:15 |
| vorian | does it go "HEY EVERYONE! I'M LOOKING AT ....." | 04:15 |
| nixternal | nhandler: oh dude, I am so adding that to my presentation for saturday....everyone can follow along by going to http://matthew.gwos.org | 04:15 |
| nixternal | vorian: yup | 04:15 |
| vorian | haha | 04:15 |
| ScottK | This is one time I'm glad for Quassel's web link preview function. | 04:16 |
| nhandler | nixternal: I have my own subdomain there ;) | 04:16 |
| vorian | good old kingbahamhut | 04:16 |
| nhandler | vorian: I would have expected you to recognize a ck link by now | 04:16 |
| vorian | yup | 04:16 |
| * vorian is getting sluggish | 04:16 | |
| vorian | I need to change my hackergotchi | 04:18 |
| * a|wen want the new aptitude | 06:56 | |
| a|wen | Aptitude::ProblemResolver::Hints { "reject pulseaudio"; }; | 06:56 |
| a|wen | that's the feature i'm missing :) | 06:56 |
| Quintasan | :D | 06:56 |
| Quintasan | Hi btw. :D | 06:56 |
| a|wen | hi Quintasan | 06:58 |
| a|wen | you're iso-testing? | 06:58 |
| a|wen | :) | 06:59 |
| sime_ | the upgrade killed apt-cacher-ng here... | 07:14 |
| blizzz | mh, again flash videos do lack sound :( | 07:31 |
| nukem2525 | is there going to be an upgrade path between 8.04 w/ KDE3 and 9.04 w/ KDE3 or will it require a fresh install? | 07:33 |
| a|wen | kb9vqf: i think you're the only one able to answer that one ^^ | 07:46 |
| a|wen | nukem2525: he doesn't seem to be around atm. I think you'll have to wait till he shows up | 08:02 |
| * a|wen hugs vorian | 08:03 | |
| a|wen | great post :) | 08:03 |
| nukem2525 | any idea about his normal hours? | 08:03 |
| tsimpson | I would guess that it would require a patched dist-upgrade tool to go from 8.04 -> 9.04 | 08:10 |
| nukem2525 | what are the odds of one being made availible? | 08:11 |
| tsimpson | depends on how many people know how to do it and how long that'll take to make | 08:11 |
| tsimpson | it'd be a little complex because it'd need to know the package translation path | 08:12 |
| tsimpson | so (some-kde-package) -> (some-kde-package)-kde3 | 08:12 |
| tsimpson | but I don't know enough about the remix to say for sure how easy/difficult that'd be | 08:13 |
| nukem2525 | Ill probably end up doing a fresh install anyway | 08:13 |
| nukem2525 | I messed up a couple things im to lazy to fix | 08:13 |
| nukem2525 | now I just need to decide whether im willing to try KDE4 again | 08:14 |
| nukem2525 | or not | 08:14 |
| a|wen | nukem2525: when was the last time you tried it? | 08:16 |
| nukem2525 | i tried 4.0 and 4.1 | 08:16 |
| a|wen | nukem2525: a great deal has happened till 4.2 ... anything particularly problematic? | 08:17 |
| nukem2525 | the network manager blew up several times | 08:18 |
| nukem2525 | random X crashes | 08:18 |
| a|wen | did you try the intrepid release; or the 4.0.0 / 4.1.0 versions? | 08:19 |
| nukem2525 | 8.10 | 08:19 |
| nukem2525 | when it first released it had 4.0 right? | 08:19 |
| a|wen | nukem2525: it had 4.1.2 upon release | 08:20 |
| a|wen | it's at 4.1.4 now | 08:20 |
| nukem2525 | kk, I tried that as well as the 8.04 KDE4 remix | 08:20 |
| a|wen | nukem2525: okay ... the hardy remix cd was really only for early adopters; after that kde4 has matured a lot | 08:21 |
| a|wen | nukem2525: you can always give it a try ... live-cd's are a great invention in that regarg | 08:22 |
| nukem2525 | ya I knew when I went in that the remix wouldn't be very stable but I was a bit disappointed after I had so many issues with 8.10 | 08:22 |
| nukem2525 | I had it on 2 machines and both messed up pretty bad | 08:24 |
| a|wen | it has been working out great for me ... no problems with crashes or anything | 08:24 |
| a|wen | but with kde 4.2.2 i'd say that kde is now ready for everybody | 08:25 |
| nukem2525 | Ill give it another shot but the only thing im looking for that KDE3 doesn't provide is Amarok 2 | 08:27 |
| a|wen | yeah; amarok2 is great :) | 08:30 |
| nukem2525 | Ive been banging my head against the desk trying to compile it on my mac since it came out | 08:31 |
| a|wen | that does also sound like a challenge | 08:33 |
| nukem2525 | Ive talked to the macports maintainer about updating the port but they are still using an old version | 08:34 |
| nukem2525 | so Ive been trying to do it myself | 08:34 |
| a|wen | what i've heard, kde compiling on mac should still be a lot of tweaked, just to get something out of it | 08:36 |
| nukem2525 | I had no problem with KDE, I used macports to install 4.2 | 08:37 |
| a|wen | when it is in macports it's another story | 08:40 |
| * a|wen just talked to a friend that has upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 ... everything just went smooth for her! | 09:45 | |
| rickspencer3 | a|wen: sweet! | 09:51 |
| a|wen | it looks good | 09:51 |
| a|wen | omg! what a speed-gain you can have in some of the apps by using "--graphicssytem raster" | 11:14 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: How did help.kubuntu.org go? Anything left to do? | 11:20 |
| ScottK | All the upgrades have gone smoothly here, including one 8.04 to 9.04 | 11:40 |
| Riddell | awooga | 11:41 |
| Tm_T | hooray (: | 11:43 |
| ScottK | Riddell: One nit that doesn't appear to hurt anything is that the 8.04 -> 9.04 upgrade ended up with guidance-power-manager installed. | 11:44 |
| ScottK | Someone is working on a release announcement for Kubuntu, right? claydoh? | 11:54 |
| Riddell | ScottK: hrm, that should be removed in the final upgrade stage | 12:00 |
| Riddell | release announcement is mostly https://wiki.kubuntu.org/JauntyJackalope/RC/Kubuntu turned into html for kubuntu.org | 12:00 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Maybe it was and I missed it. I'll double check next time I have access to the machine. | 12:00 |
| Riddell | I'm about to do upgrade tests too | 12:00 |
| ScottK | Riddell: We just need to settle on a URL and make sure slangasek has it to include in his announcement. | 12:01 |
| ScottK | Ah. I see you already took care of it. | 12:01 |
| Riddell | the easy part I did, take more effort to actually write the html :) | 12:02 |
| ScottK | Well you also took care of the part it's impossible to fix after the fact. | 12:03 |
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| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: we need more KDEing anyway :P | 12:28 |
| apachelogger | hm | 12:29 |
| apachelogger | uh | 12:29 |
| apachelogger | ah | 12:29 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna, nhandler: how about denting+weather? | 12:29 |
| apachelogger | magic plasma and magic KDE microblogging lib should make that a charm | 12:29 |
| apachelogger | then again, why bother with having the dents on one's desktop when you can has $plasmoid | 12:29 |
| apachelogger | oh dear | 12:30 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: i386 build of amarok-nightly 20090421+svn956946-0neon1 in ubuntu intrepid RELEASE | 12:30 |
| apachelogger | Build started 44 minutes ago on thallium (virtual) and finished 16 minutes ago taking 27 minutes | 12:30 |
| Nightrose | wohoooooooooooooooo | 12:31 |
| * Nightrose hugs apachelogger | 12:31 | |
| apachelogger | try | 12:31 |
| apachelogger | then | 12:31 |
| apachelogger | hug | 12:31 |
| Nightrose | haha | 12:31 |
| Nightrose | ok | 12:31 |
| Riddell | the liblastfm issue is going to be a problem with Amarok :( | 12:31 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: rex dieter already mentioned it and Leo is aware of it | 12:31 |
| Nightrose | he'll try to find out what can be done about it | 12:32 |
| Riddell | ah, good | 12:32 |
| claydoh | ScottK: yes I am, though not quite so early in the am ;) | 12:51 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/d789ae658 | 12:52 |
| claydoh | i would like some input from you folks on what you think should be highlighted in the notes, even the little things | 12:54 |
| claydoh | I have a decent sized list already, but think I will miss something you think is important | 12:55 |
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| === JontheEchidna changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: RC out! Final release tomorrow! | Final freeze in effect - Test CD ISOs! http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all | ||
| apachelogger | Nightrose: force-overwrite | 13:19 |
| * apachelogger needs to head back to work | 13:19 | |
| Sput | amarok is a nightmare for packagers :> | 13:20 |
| === JontheEchidna changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: RC out! Final release in two-ish days! | Final freeze in effect - Test CD ISOs! http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all | ||
| ScottK | claydoh: Excellent. Just making sure we didn't forget. | 13:30 |
| === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: RC out! | Final freeze in effect - Test CD ISOs! http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all | ||
| claydoh | ScottK: no, we didn't forget, though rockbox is distracting me so i have to put it away | 13:34 |
| rmrfslash | Does anyone know if the radeonhd 1.2.5 driver is going to be released with or before the final Kubuntu 9.04? Supposedly this version addresses resume-from-ram video issues. | 13:47 |
| ScottK | rmrfslash: 9.04 will be released with what it has now. | 13:47 |
| rmrfslash | I see. | 13:48 |
| ScottK | We're at the "unless the world is going to explode or someone will get sued, no more changes" stage. | 13:48 |
| rmrfslash | That's a good state to be in | 13:49 |
| rmrfslash | Is the version that's in 9.04 now going to stay that way until 9.10 or...? | 13:49 |
| rmrfslash | Are these subject to upgrades | 13:49 |
| a|wen | rmrfslash: patches can be added; but complete version upgrades of radeonhd is not likely | 13:51 |
| ScottK | After release, we only change for security fixes or major issues. The rules for non-security updates are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/ | 13:51 |
| a|wen | rmrfslash: have you looked at the radeon driver in itself? don't know which gfx-card you have, but it might have caught up with it | 13:52 |
| rmrfslash | bummer | 13:52 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: already done that of course ;-) just wanted to let you know | 13:58 |
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| Riddell | ScottK: you're right about guidance-p-m, asking mvo | 14:33 |
| Riddell | New DVDs are up for testing! http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/20090421.1/ | 14:33 |
| Riddell | ScottK: bug 364620 | 14:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 364620 in update-manager "guidance-power-manager remains installed for 8.04 -> 9.04 Kubuntu Upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364620 | 14:40 |
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| claydoh | Riddell: ScottK do we want to have download mirrors listed in the release notes? I noticed we did not do so for Intrepid | 16:50 |
| Riddell | claydoh: no since we put them on kubuntu.org and it has a download page (with a magicially updating list of mirrors) | 16:52 |
| Riddell | so we just point to that | 16:52 |
| claydoh | cool, I thaought as much | 16:52 |
| claydoh | Riddell: any personal fave jaunty feature you have, that you want mentioned? | 16:56 |
| claydoh | lol accidental ctrl-alt-backspace | 17:01 |
| nukem2525 | will there be an upgrade path between 8.04 w/ KDE3 and 9.04 w/ KDE3 or will it require a fresh install? | 17:02 |
| Riddell | claydoh: system-config-printer-kde has been incorporated into system settings and improved | 17:03 |
| Quintasan | I wonder why Details >> button is disable in KPackageKit while downloading and installing | 17:04 |
| Riddell | nukem2525: yes https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04 testing welcome | 17:04 |
| nukem2525 | that will preserve KDE3? | 17:05 |
| Riddell | nukem2525: well no, it will upgrade to 9.04 | 17:07 |
| nukem2525 | what Im asking is if I can upgrade to the 9.04 KDE3 remix | 17:08 |
| Riddell | nope | 17:08 |
| nukem2525 | awww | 17:08 |
| Riddell | could try your luck with a dist-upgrade I suppose | 17:08 |
| nukem2525 | I suppose I would have to manually select packages? | 17:08 |
| Riddell | yes | 17:09 |
| nukem2525 | I suppose I can give KDE4 another shot | 17:09 |
| Riddell | good choice :) | 17:10 |
| Tscheesy | Riddell : i have Probs with the DVD-Download, got two times an error at the very last moment.. something like File Access Error, then when i try to resume - it restarts - in FF with and without Downloadmanager | 17:38 |
| Riddell | Tscheesy: use rsync | 17:52 |
| Riddell | see KubuntuFiles | 17:52 |
| Tscheesy | i'll give it another try - so i asume it works in principle | 17:53 |
| Riddell | Tscheesy: are you using rsync? | 18:00 |
| Tscheesy | actually -the old one got overwritten with a restart | 18:01 |
| * Riddell updates https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04 for final | 18:08 | |
| Riddell | claydoh: do you know what happened to kubuntu forums in the end? | 18:11 |
| claydoh | no, not sure if the owner even found out, but the host fixed it | 18:12 |
| Riddell | claydoh: do you admin access to kubuntu-users? | 18:13 |
| claydoh | after a smart member figured out where it was hosted, contacted them directly | 18:13 |
| claydoh | Riddell: no I don't have it | 18:13 |
| Riddell | claydoh: not my choice of password :) | 18:14 |
| claydoh | lol | 18:14 |
| claydoh | works for me | 18:14 |
| Riddell | claydoh: is the kubuntuforums admin is still active? | 18:14 |
| claydoh | not much, afaik | 18:15 |
| Riddell | hmm, that's a bit worrying | 18:15 |
| claydoh | I am pretty much the only one doing much, it doesn't need any modersting much | 18:16 |
| claydoh | if that made any sense | 18:16 |
| Riddell | claydoh: mm, but not a great idea to have a website hosted by someone who doesn't seem to care much if it disappears | 18:19 |
| Riddell | Tscheesy: rsync -CvzapP --stats rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/dvd/current/jaunty-dvd-i386.iso . | 18:19 |
| Tscheesy | thx - was hackin' here :D | 18:19 |
| claydoh | Riddell: I agree, esp as he seems to travel a lot, makes it hard to contact him | 18:20 |
| claydoh | Riddell: I don't have any printer config options in my system settings am I missing something? | 18:38 |
| JontheEchidna | claydoh: I think it may have somehow slipped back to the advanced tab :( | 18:42 |
| claydoh | JontheEchidna: I don't have it there either | 18:43 |
| JontheEchidna | I should commit the change for placing it in the General tab to trunk now that I have commit access | 18:43 |
| JontheEchidna | claydoh: weird | 18:43 |
| * claydoh needs screenshots | 18:43 | |
| JontheEchidna | how inconvenient, pastebin.ca is down | 18:45 |
| JontheEchidna | http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6466/49735984.png | 18:46 |
| claydoh | ahhh gwenview (and digika are sooooo filled with awesomeness | 18:47 |
| Riddell | Subject: SERIOUSLY--TAKE ME OFF YOUR LIST! | 18:49 |
| Riddell | claydoh: may be a good opportunity to use your kubuntu-users powers :) | 18:49 |
| Riddell | From: Kayt Free <kayt.free@gmail.com> | 18:49 |
| Riddell | " Getting these constant e-mails is really pissing me off...TAKE ME OFF | 18:50 |
| Riddell | YOUR LIST! I've asked at least three times now! | 18:50 |
| Riddell | " | 18:50 |
| Riddell | I wonder if she wants off the list | 18:50 |
| === fenris- is now known as e-jat | ||
| daskreech | JontheEchidna: can I assume it's raining where you are? | 18:52 |
| JontheEchidna | daskreech: yeah | 18:52 |
| JontheEchidna | and it was so warm the last few days to :( (relatively speaking) | 18:52 |
| claydoh | I removed and reinstalled systemsettings, and now get the printer config, only have this | 18:54 |
| claydoh | http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1368/85614026.png | 18:54 |
| claydoh | JontheEchidna: I don' have as many buttons on mine, feeling shortchanged :) | 18:55 |
| JontheEchidna | that's because the hardware driver one is only on my computer | 18:55 |
| JontheEchidna | and it doesn't do anything to boot | 18:56 |
| JontheEchidna | well, anythign useful | 18:56 |
| JontheEchidna | aside from crashing systemsettings | 18:56 |
| JontheEchidna | you could also install kgrubeditor | 18:56 |
| JontheEchidna | kcron for the task scheduler | 18:57 |
| JontheEchidna | kdenetwork-filesharing for samba | 18:57 |
| claydoh | Riddell: assuming that email was to you? maybe sent before I added my email to the admin list | 18:57 |
| claydoh | JontheEchidna: ill just use the defaults for my screenshot :) | 18:58 |
| claydoh | JontheEchidna: thought I had sometthing busted here | 18:58 |
| JontheEchidna | nah | 18:58 |
| Riddell | claydoh: to kubuntu-users-owner@lists.ubuntu.com | 19:07 |
| claydoh | Riddell: her email is not in the member list for kubuntu-users | 19:09 |
| claydoh | but I had mailman send an unsub confirmation | 19:12 |
| claydoh | to the address | 19:12 |
| Riddell | claydoh: could be googlemail.com ? | 19:13 |
| claydoh | not as far as I can see | 19:14 |
| Mr_Grieves| | Hrm, knetworkmanager doesn't start on its own anymore. | 19:38 |
| Mr_Grieves| | Short of adding it to the autostart config file, is there a setting to fix that? | 19:39 |
| blizzz | JontheEchidna: did you get my email? | 19:39 |
| JontheEchidna | blizzz: oh, right. I forgot about that :) | 19:40 |
| blizzz | well then, this is a reminder :) | 19:40 |
| JontheEchidna | I did look over it, but I just forgot to get back to you guys | 19:41 |
| JontheEchidna | where it says "It turned (OUT?) a somewhat-obscure" | 19:41 |
| JontheEchidna | turned could probably be changed to "transformed" for clarity | 19:41 |
| JontheEchidna | otherwise it looks great | 19:42 |
| JontheEchidna | Using my LP picture is fine too. I should really think about updating it, though, since it was taken last july... | 19:42 |
| blizzz | 23th 'd be a good date for a new one ;) | 19:43 |
| blizzz | thank for inspecting it | 19:44 |
| blizzz | +s | 19:46 |
| Quintasan | ok guysm night, wish me luck :3 | 20:03 |
| Quintasan | -m | 20:03 |
| blizzz | good luck Quintasan | 20:08 |
| === dpm_ is now known as dpm | ||
| rmrfslash | Hey guys. I was on earlier to ask whether or not there would be a radeonhd driver update between 9.04 and 9.10. I was told by someone (I forgot whom) that "patches will be applied but complete upgrades were unlikely". Obviously, I was disheartened a little as the radeonhd 1.2.5 supposedly fixes some resume issues. Now, after looking around, I found this page: https://launchpad.net/~tormodvolden/+a | 20:21 |
| rmrfslash | rchive/ppa | 20:21 |
| claydoh | yup, those are testing packages , won't be official | 20:22 |
| claydoh | but helpful for those who want/need to be on the edge :) | 20:23 |
| rmrfslash | On this guys page, there is a deb for radeonhd 1.2.5 for Jaunty and was published 22 hours ago. I installed it, it at least doesn't break things and Xorg.0.log shows that RADEONHD is version 1.2.5. Does tis mean there is a update in the works for Jaunty? | 20:24 |
| claydoh | no | 20:24 |
| claydoh | ppa= *personal* package archive | 20:24 |
| rmrfslash | i c | 20:24 |
| claydoh | but often they are quite stable and very useful | 20:25 |
| claydoh | esp in your case it seems :) | 20:25 |
| rmrfslash | yeah, it works... I have yet to see if it'll resume properly. Though this version was supposed to address that specifically (among other things). | 20:27 |
| rmrfslash | and was one of the major problems I was experiencing | 20:28 |
| rmrfslash | and couldn't circumvent | 20:28 |
| rmrfslash | anyways... im happy. | 20:28 |
| rmrfslash | :D | 20:28 |
| claydoh | someone has an itch to scratch, and someone provides the back-scratching stick for it :) | 20:31 |
| kb9vqf | nukem2525: Not sure if you're still around, but here's what you can do: 1. Copy your ~/.kde folder to ~/.kde3 2. Do the upgrade normally 3. Install kubuntu-desktop-kde3 4. Remove the KDE4 packages that got installed in the upgrade (optional) | 20:33 |
| kb9vqf | nukem2525: I'll put something on the Wiki page before final | 20:33 |
| jefferai | apachelogger: ping | 20:45 |
| apachelogger | jefferai: pong | 20:45 |
| jefferai | hey, so in your release script | 20:45 |
| jefferai | you know how you append the include directives for po and doc at the end of CMakeLists.txt? | 20:45 |
| jefferai | how easy it is to substitute those directives for lines already in the CMakeLists.txt file? | 20:46 |
| apachelogger | jefferai: easy enough | 20:47 |
| apachelogger | just need to wrap it in an if($lines present) | 20:47 |
| jefferai | nah, don't | 20:47 |
| jefferai | I'll just put in a comment like this: | 20:48 |
| jefferai | #DOC_INCLUDE | 20:48 |
| jefferai | #PO_INCLUDE | 20:48 |
| jefferai | and replace those with add_subdirectory(doc), etc. | 20:48 |
| jefferai | does that sound easy enough? | 20:48 |
| apachelogger | jefferai: the problem is that you don't want to use kde's macro for optional sub dir? | 20:49 |
| jefferai | well, is there a point? | 20:49 |
| jefferai | I guess that's even better | 20:50 |
| apachelogger | one might not want to install docs or po ... but especially docs if they are big | 20:50 |
| jefferai | ok | 20:50 |
| jefferai | I'll do that | 20:50 |
| jefferai | I'll make them toggleable | 20:50 |
| jefferai | and you can take it out of the release script entirely | 20:50 |
| apachelogger | jefferai: I am really missing context here ... are we talking about amarok or what? | 20:51 |
| jefferai | yep | 20:51 |
| apachelogger | well, it needs to stay in the script | 20:51 |
| jefferai | why? | 20:51 |
| apachelogger | not only amarok uses that script :P | 20:51 |
| jefferai | OK, then, it needs to not go at the end of the file | 20:52 |
| jefferai | and/or not use the KDE optional macros | 20:52 |
| apachelogger | jefferai: doesn't amarok include KDE's macros? | 20:52 |
| jefferai | take a look at the CMakeLists.txt file | 20:52 |
| apachelogger | okies | 20:52 |
| jefferai | note that KDE deps are only in the WITH_PLAYER section | 20:53 |
| jefferai | if you're building the utilities, there are no KDE dependencies | 20:53 |
| apachelogger | ahhhhh | 20:53 |
| jefferai | except for the KDE macros you introduced with the release script, that is :-) | 20:53 |
| apachelogger | jefferai: both the po and the docs need KDE macros anyway | 20:53 |
| jefferai | exactly...so the release script should probably put those macro calls in the WITH_PLAYER section | 20:53 |
| jefferai | by substituting in for a known value | 20:54 |
| jefferai | that sound doable? | 20:55 |
| apachelogger | aye | 20:55 |
| apachelogger | sec | 20:55 |
| jefferai | k | 20:55 |
| apachelogger | the l10n stuff is 100% hack | 21:11 |
| apachelogger | good thing the refactored version comes with a lot better design | 21:11 |
| jefferai | apachelogger: so should I modify anything in the Amarok CMakeLists? | 21:13 |
| apachelogger | jefferai: add the comments you mentioned earlier | 21:13 |
| jefferai | any specific names? | 21:13 |
| jefferai | apachelogger: I'll call them DOC_SUBDIR and PO_SUBDIR | 21:14 |
| jefferai | apachelogger: here's what I put into CMakeLists.txt | 21:15 |
| jefferai | #Do not remove or modify these. The release script substitutes in for these | 21:15 |
| jefferai | #comments as appropriate. | 21:15 |
| jefferai | #DOC_SUBDIR | 21:15 |
| jefferai | #PO_SUBDIR | 21:15 |
| apachelogger | meh | 21:17 |
| apachelogger | I already made the script use _INCLUDE :P | 21:17 |
| apachelogger | pushy pushy | 21:18 |
| jefferai | can you change it? | 21:18 |
| jefferai | it makes more sense to put SUBDIR | 21:18 |
| jefferai | Sorry | 21:19 |
| apachelogger | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+junk/extragear-release-script | 21:19 |
| apachelogger | r38 and r39 if you want to apply it manually | 21:19 |
| jefferai | apply what? | 21:20 |
| apachelogger | the changes | 21:20 |
| jefferai | to where? | 21:20 |
| apachelogger | your source copy | 21:20 |
| jefferai | nope | 21:20 |
| jefferai | :-) | 21:20 |
| apachelogger | you never know | 21:20 |
| jefferai | not here | 21:20 |
| jefferai | but anyways | 21:20 |
| jefferai | changes in CMakeLists.txt in r957327 | 21:20 |
| apachelogger | hm | 21:23 |
| apachelogger | that looks broken to me | 21:24 |
| apachelogger | jefferai: can you swap the order | 21:25 |
| apachelogger | po currently pulls in the include, if doc is add before the include it probably will make cmake cry | 21:25 |
| apachelogger | jefferai: or add another comment | 21:26 |
| apachelogger | #SUBDIR_INCLUDE | 21:26 |
| jefferai | ok | 21:26 |
| jefferai | wait what? | 21:26 |
| jefferai | I swapped the order | 21:27 |
| apachelogger | ok, works as well | 21:27 |
| apachelogger | works like a charm | 21:28 |
| jefferai | great | 21:32 |
| jefferai | thanks | 21:32 |
| kb9vqf | nukem2525: The instructions for Hardy-->Jaunty KDE3.5 are up on the Jaunty KDE3 Wiki page | 21:33 |
| apachelogger | jefferai: you're very welcome | 21:35 |
| _sime | upgrade to 9.04 went well here. | 21:41 |
| Tscheesy | Riddell : DVD is nice ..when Stopping -6 Warning-Messages for Open TTY1-6 Pop up .. and WLAN-Manager is not processing the WPA-KEY | 22:11 |
| Tscheesy | next to missing translations.. but the spoken Blogging about would also help me to get, next time, all the translation documents into local community | 22:13 |
| Riddell | hhhh | 22:16 |
| Riddell | Tscheesy: ok, please report on the http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all site | 22:17 |
| Riddell | _sime: great | 22:17 |
| Tscheesy | Riddell : do i have a Ubuntu QA Username ? Guess not? isn't it LP or openID? | 22:19 |
| Tscheesy | i'll create a new one | 22:20 |
| Riddell | you need to create one | 22:20 |
| JontheEchidna | we don't support gutsy -> jaunty updates, do we? | 22:25 |
| JontheEchidna | you have to upgrade to hardy first | 22:25 |
| dtchen | you're skipping intrepid as a required step for hardy->jaunty? | 22:26 |
| JontheEchidna | we do support hardy -> jaunty | 22:26 |
| JontheEchidna | in Kubuntu at least | 22:26 |
| JontheEchidna | but am I correct in assuming that gutsy -> jaunty is completely unsupported? | 22:27 |
| dtchen | ok, then yes, you are correct | 22:27 |
| JontheEchidna | thanks | 22:27 |
| Tscheesy | Riddell : this page is tricky for me - You are here : QA Tracker -> Test list -> Result list : i just fill in a comment and Mark as failed? | 22:28 |
| Tscheesy | in "live session" | 22:28 |
| Tscheesy | accoring http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/DesktopLiveSession of curse.. | 22:29 |
| Tscheesy | done | 22:36 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: right no gutsy upgrade to jaunty | 22:42 |
| apachelogger | we need a QA supervisor dood | 23:00 |
| JontheEchidna | What would this dood do? | 23:01 |
| Tscheesy | weight Bug-Reports.. | 23:02 |
| JontheEchidna | triagers weigh bug reports, technically | 23:04 |
| apachelogger | assign QA tasks and spend most of his time doing QA | 23:04 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: also, technically the triager might do that, but most of the time they will be wrong anyway, unless triager == developer in which case it is assumable that they actually rate the impact of an issue properly | 23:06 |
| apachelogger | well, if they understand the problem at least ;-) | 23:06 |
| JontheEchidna | in other words, a triager like me? :P | 23:06 |
| davmor2 | Tscheesy: why did you file your kubuntu issue against ubuntu dvd? and you've listed bug 1,2,3 on lp as bugs rather then the lp bug number for your issues | 23:06 |
| ubottu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Timeout) | 23:06 |
| ubottu | Error: Launchpad bug 2 could not be found | 23:06 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: you do unfriendly triage though :P | 23:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 3 in rosetta "Custom information for each translation team" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/3 | 23:06 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah... | 23:07 |
| apachelogger | hm | 23:07 |
| apachelogger | someone poke stdin in the eye for that flood | 23:07 |
| Tscheesy | davmor2 : omg - i didnt know ther's a link - it seemd so.. | 23:07 |
| apachelogger | anyway | 23:08 |
| jpds | apachelogger: -> tsimpson | 23:08 |
| apachelogger | we need to do like more promotion for testing | 23:08 |
| apachelogger | or rather more promotion in general | 23:08 |
| apachelogger | but especially testing | 23:08 |
| apachelogger | like we need iso testing and desktop testing and app testing and upgrade testing and translation testing... | 23:08 |
| apachelogger | in a more organized matter that is of course | 23:09 |
| Tscheesy | davmor2 : cann you wipe it out? i'll write it new tomorrow | 23:09 |
| davmor2 | Tscheesy: It should of been filed again Kubuntu Dvd. And where it says bug you put in the lp bug number of the issue for future reference :) | 23:09 |
| davmor2 | Tscheesy: I can't but I know a man that can | 23:10 |
| Tscheesy | ok :( - good | 23:10 |
| * apachelogger would think that a user can wipe his own entries :S | 23:10 | |
| Tscheesy | yes - but i need to file 3 LP-Bugs first ;) | 23:11 |
| davmor2 | apachelogger: Nope one down side of the way the tracker has been setup. Something that will hopefully be remedied for karmic | 23:13 |
| apachelogger | hope so | 23:13 |
| Tscheesy | davmor2 : so? Bug Nb 1 isnt' appropriate ? :D.. i'll have to do it tomorrow | 23:14 |
| davmor2 | Tscheesy: No! :D | 23:15 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: do these observations still hold up? http://www.flickr.com/photos/19616885@N00/3460206354/in/set-72157608562200171/ | 23:15 |
| JontheEchidna | Alt+Left is untranslated for me in spanish, but everything else looks ok | 23:15 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: yes | 23:16 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: though the locale kcm is not translated anyway | 23:17 |
| apachelogger | it will default to en_US unless the KDE specific setting is set | 23:17 |
| apachelogger | which should probably be changed | 23:17 |
| apachelogger | actually | 23:17 |
| JontheEchidna | looks pretty spanish here to me | 23:17 |
| apachelogger | the whole language setting there is worth a load of nothing | 23:17 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: only if set through the kcm | 23:17 |
| apachelogger | your testcase is flawed | 23:17 |
| apachelogger | I am wondering if rosetta broke the dolphin strings though | 23:18 |
| JontheEchidna | so if Ihave es set as your lang at install time, I'd see untransalted strings too? | 23:18 |
| apachelogger | aye | 23:18 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: just use language-selector to change the system language and nuke Language(s)= from kdeglobals | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | or create a new user instead of the latter | 23:19 |
| JontheEchidna | ugh, qt-language-selector was never renamed language-selector-kde | 23:21 |
| Tscheesy | davmor2 : changed to a (hopefully) tmp state :/ | 23:22 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: is the trash kcm also untranslated when accessed from konqueror? | 23:24 |
| apachelogger | yes, no, kinda | 23:25 |
| apachelogger | the item itself is named properly (desktop file??) but the days thingy is still there | 23:25 |
| JontheEchidna | hmmmmm | 23:25 |
| apachelogger | ... I think days is actually a kdelibs termy | 23:25 |
| JontheEchidna | they both use the same kcm, I wonder why that's happening | 23:26 |
| JontheEchidna | oh | 23:27 |
| JontheEchidna | + // Trash | 23:27 |
| JontheEchidna | + TrashSettingsPage* trashSettingsPage = new TrashSettingsPage(this); | 23:27 |
| JontheEchidna | + KPageWidgetItem* trashSettingsFrame = addPage(trashSettingsPage, | 23:27 |
| JontheEchidna | + i18nc("@title:group", "Trash")); | 23:27 |
| JontheEchidna | I guess it didn't get translated in LP... | 23:27 |
| apachelogger | that is from use, isn't it? | 23:27 |
| apachelogger | *us | 23:27 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, I backported it from trunk | 23:28 |
| davmor2 | Tscheesy: that'll do for now :) | 23:28 |
| apachelogger | *nod* | 23:28 |
| apachelogger | at this point I would not change any string at all since there is a high possibility it will not get translated | 23:28 |
| JontheEchidna | It should use the same KCM, but it uses its own string for adding it to dolphin's settings | 23:28 |
| Tscheesy | davmor2 : uf.. X) ..need my sleep now.. by all | 23:30 |
| davmor2 | bye | 23:30 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: I did add this a month or few ago, but I guess this is also a consequence of us pissing off the german doods? | 23:30 |
| JontheEchidna | (our patches don't get translated) | 23:30 |
| apachelogger | I think there are more languages affected than german really | 23:30 |
| apachelogger | I just happen to know that we pissed them off pretty badly | 23:31 |
| JontheEchidna | so the question becomes, how the heck are we gonna get people to translate any of our patches at all in the future? | 23:32 |
| * JontheEchidna goes to eat | 23:33 | |
| apachelogger | a) talk to them | 23:33 |
| apachelogger | b) help them | 23:33 |
| apachelogger | c) beat up rosetta | 23:33 |
| apachelogger | d) if rosetta doesn't die or become a lot better after beating - not using it | 23:33 |
| apachelogger | all in all: ensure that translations never ever break for more than a couple of days, and certainly not while the translation related freezes are in effect | 23:34 |
| JontheEchidna | I am thinking that somebody should probably blog about this either today or tomorrow | 23:36 |
| * apachelogger will certainly rant about rosetta sometime soon | 23:37 | |
| davmor2 | Riddell: I'm off to bed now if there are any kub dvd test left in the morning I'll pick them up :) | 23:38 |
| JontheEchidna | I mean, blog about the general state of translations for Kubuntu 9.04, dispell some common myths, lay out the plan for the future, etc | 23:39 |
| * JontheEchidna really goes off to eat now | 23:39 | |
| apachelogger | what myths? | 23:40 |
| apachelogger | kubuntu l10n is breaking every once in a while | 23:40 |
| apachelogger | kubuntu l10n stays broken for at least a month | 23:40 |
| apachelogger | kubuntu l10n is of so crappy quality it hurts to even think about it | 23:40 |
| apachelogger | not to mention the interface that has to be used | 23:40 |
| * apachelogger shudders | 23:40 | |
| JontheEchidna | mainly that Kubuntu doesn't use upstream translations | 23:52 |
| apachelogger | we do | 23:53 |
| JontheEchidna | exactly | 23:53 |
| apachelogger | unless rosetta didn't import it | 23:53 |
| JontheEchidna | right | 23:53 |
| apachelogger | or exported it in a broken matter | 23:54 |
| JontheEchidna | that too | 23:54 |
| apachelogger | or some funky launchpad dood thought it would be a good idea to change the translation | 23:54 |
| apachelogger | make it overriden for now and forever | 23:54 |
| JontheEchidna | shit, they can do that? | 23:54 |
| apachelogger | now they can | 23:54 |
| JontheEchidna | :/ | 23:54 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, let's just mainly blast rosetta | 23:55 |
| apachelogger | thing is there is no additional QA needed to do that | 23:55 |
| apachelogger | nor is there a way to make those changed translations be overridden by $nextupstream import | 23:55 |
| JontheEchidna | how hard would it be to exclude rosetta entirely from the process? | 23:56 |
| Riddell | not possible | 23:57 |
| Riddell | and I quite like being able to add strings | 23:58 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: add strings? | 23:58 |
| apachelogger | + possible, just not desirable | 23:58 |
| JontheEchidna | in theory (maybe?) we could just throw all the po(t)s in a bzr branch and do things like upstream | 23:59 |
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