=== david is now known as Guest40418 [00:04] anyone know a sidebar like the one on vista? === AfrOTRokHE is now known as LiGHTTRokHE === LiGHTTRokHE is now known as LiGHTRokHE === k is now known as Guest17849 [00:27] kuuuuuuuuuuuubuntu [00:27] never heard of it [00:36] Hello [00:37] I have a question about kde4 if anyone can help [00:37] edit [00:38] kde4 is not very configurable...am I missing something or is that how it is...or is there a way to add items to a right click [00:38] o.0? [00:39] is like, but not a linux windowmized [00:39] =X [00:39] jake__: what are you looking for? [00:40] well I'd like to add another panel but there is no widget for it and I'd like to change the color of the main panel [00:40] the clock only displays 24 hour not 12 [00:40] and no weather widget like on gnome [00:42] I'd also like to make new directories on a right click on the desktop and just other configurable things that gnome regular kde has [00:45] is this how kde4 is or am I missing something [00:46] xxxcccscxsv [00:46] vcs [00:46] vc [00:46] v [00:46] cdf [00:46] I'd also like to thank anyone who develops for linux in general...I just deleted windows after using it since 1997 so thanks for making linux better [00:50] maestre: Please stop. [00:51] jake__- time format is in System Settings -> Regional & Language [00:52] jake__- if you right-click an existing panel, there's an Add Panel option [00:52] no there isn't [00:53] it says task manager settings and panel settings [00:53] and there not much when I click either of those [00:54] panel settings are only size and location [00:54] What version of KDE? [00:54] kde4 [00:54] More specifically? [00:54] how would I input to terminal to find out? [00:55] hi guys, how do i get back something that i deleted? [00:55] K Menu -> Help, then Help -> About KDE will give you your KDE version [00:55] Help -> About in any KDE4 app will tell you, too (Konversation is still using KDE3, so that won't work) [00:56] kde 4.0.3 [00:56] Well there's your problem right there [00:56] is there a way to get back my deleted files? or they're gone forever? [00:56] KDE 4.0 was never really meant to be used [00:56] hahaha [00:57] Kubuntu 8.10 has KDE 4.1 by default, and KDE 4.2 is available in backports [00:57] so I should just go back to regular kde 3.5? [00:57] is there going to be an upgrade path from 8.04 w/ KDE3 to 9.04 w/ KDE3? [00:57] or will it require a fresh install? [00:57] I have ubuntu 8.04 cause 8.10 wouldn't install on my computer [00:58] If 8.04 is all you have, probably stick with KDE3 [00:58] I can't remember if they packaged 4.2 for 8.04 [00:58] zer0o: what kind of FS are you using? [00:58] zer0o: http://www.stud.tu-ilmenau.de/~mojo/undelete.html [00:59] fs? [00:59] ok thanks I'll check it out [00:59] fs type [00:59] zer0o: fs type, ext2, ext3? xfs? [00:59] ext3 i think [01:01] zer0o: mount -o remount,ro /mountpoint ; [01:01] e2undel - Undelete utility for the ext2 file system [01:01] recover - Undelete files on ext2 partitions [01:01] gtkrecover - GUI for recover [01:01] whatz that? [01:02] u tellin me if i delete something it remains on my hd somewhere? [01:05] zer0o:most of the time, yes [01:06] hehe [01:06] c ya people! [01:06] it doesnt actually get removed, the space just gets marked as avalible [01:06] the data doesn [01:06] the data doesn't get destroyed until somthing gets written to that area [01:07] he. Got some questions about qt4.5 drawing artifacts bug on jaunty (if there's anyone concerned). Is there a clear reason why this bug should be blamed on both affected ati and intel drivers or should I consider the "it works when I switch to uxa" sufficient (even when jaunty is gonna rely on exa accel)? [01:30] Very quick question, because it's been a while. Is linux still having trouble read/writing to NTSF partitions? Or has that issue been solved? [01:33] salpta: never had any problem reading from ntfs, however I haven't yet experienced a clean solution for writing... [01:34] (it's been a year since I tried) [01:36] I believe the NTFS drivers can do read/write now [01:36] is it possible to do something like, partition a CD-rw so one part contains a kernel, the other part contains the OS, but the part that contains the OS is in some format that can be used read/write with a proper cd-rw drive, so a live linux distribution could have some kind of permanent storage [01:37] last thing I used for it was: captive-ntfs [01:37] ntfs-3g has no problems with ntfs [01:39] ... ntfs-3g looks better :) [01:40] I was thinking about creating a minimil live distro with at least xorg, a nice wm, firefox, apache2, mysql, php5, and have the mysql part modifiable, so people in the field without a connection to the internet can access a recent version of the db, store information, then I can sync them when they do get a connection (somehow..) [01:41] what do I need to do to mount a second harddrive? it keeps appearing as if it's external [01:44] sonnentae add an entry to fstab [01:45] is there a program that adds entries to my kmenu automatically using the /usr/bin folder as a reference of available programs? [01:46] Not that I know of. Pretty sure K Menu entries are added by the package [01:47] dang [01:48] SuspectZero I'm sure a script in any language would be easy to make to do that [01:48] yea but i need somehing a bit more complex, like it has to make a menu folder regarding the type of program and stuff [01:48] Just look at the .desktop file for an existing entry, make a template from it, generate the proper values from the results of ls /usr/bin/, store them in seperate files [01:48] no .desktop files generated [01:49] then modify kickoff yourself? ^^ [01:49] or make a new menu plasmoid, shouldn't be very hard to do [01:49] yea [01:57] Had to walk away. Thanks for the input. =) [01:57] OxDeadC0de: I did add to fstab but root owns it so I can't modify anything? [02:03] - /dev/hdc1 /media/ide auto defaults 0 1 [02:22] hello is it possible to use glmatrix as my desktop background? === hgo76 is now known as abengoa === abengoa is now known as hgo76 === dstar__ is now known as dstar [02:27] hi, I'm trying to restore grub after installing windows. I followed the directions on help.ubuntu.com, but when I try to "grub> setup (hd0)" I get "Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+17 p (hd0,5)/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/menu.lst"... failed Error 22: No such partition" [02:29] hey I got a question about my screen resolution in ubuntu === Lord_Drachenblut is now known as XXXploit === XXXploit is now known as Lord_Drachenblut [02:35] hey folks... anyone recommend a tag editor for audio files? [02:38] hei guiz. i haz teh problems. Plasma goes wonkers and sucks up 100% CPU sometimes. For example, right now. === ruben is now known as Guest55903 [02:39] (Maybe I should just delete the config file or something...) [02:41] where can i get a repo link for kde 4.2.2 [02:42] FloridaGuy- link is in the topic [02:44] Lookin for the W [02:44] WINE forum, can someone get me that address? [02:45] !wine [02:45] WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [02:45] Hm, was hoping the link would be there [02:45] lorecaster: try lookin around winehq.org (.com?) [02:45] I think it's http://www.winehq.org [02:45] no help there... was looking for the IRC room [02:46] oh [02:46] #winehq ? [02:46] got it, thanks [02:49] Does anyone know if there is an official printed kubuntu specific book? [02:50] I know there is one for ubuntu [02:51] Yeah. Chapter 1: Waiting For An Answer [02:53] hehe [02:55] 3D was working great. But suddenly games run less that 1 fps. but, glxgears runs at 205+ fps. I have an Intel card. [03:02] hi, I can't fix grub on my machine. Everything I've tried breaks. Can anyone help me? [03:02] Also, I can't install === R3DB0x is now known as boboso [03:09] anyone usin' radeonhd? [03:09] xserver-xorg-driver-radeonhd (to be exact) [03:12] booo [03:16] I just put a new motherboard and cpu into my computer and now I'm not getting any sound. Realtek ALC883. [03:16] When I boot I get this error at the top of the screen: [03:16] HDA ATI SB (ALC883 Analog) [03:16] Codec Realtek ALC883 does not work. [03:17] Then it reverts back to some other codec that doesn't function. [03:17] I can hear like half of the Kubuntu startup music before it cuts out. [03:17] Any ideas? [03:28] I just put a new motherboard and cpu into my computer and now I'm not getting any sound. Realtek ALC883. [03:28] When I boot I get this error at the top of the screen: [03:28] HDA ATI SB (ALC883 Analog) [03:28] Codec Realtek ALC883 does not work. [03:28] Then it reverts back to some other codec that doesn't function. [03:28] I can hear like half of the Kubuntu startup music before it cuts out. [03:28] Any ideas? === mike is now known as Guest74601 === Guest74601 is now known as Imortallis [03:31] is it possible to have more than one GUI on one machine? [03:33] Imortallis: you mean more than one desktop environment? [03:33] How to start kubuntu live using netboot? [03:34] imortallis: yes, when you log in you can choose a session with any GUIs you have installed [03:34] I don't have cdrom [03:34] just pxe card [03:34] sancho21: do you have an os already in the box? [03:34] Yes [03:34] yes geek [03:34] you could use unetbootin i think [03:36] geek_, actually I've manage do create netboot using dhcp, but the live session can't start. Instead, it entered blue instalation screen [03:37] blue installation screen *is* netboot i think >_> [03:37] geek_ besides, I want to know if I can start live session using netboot [03:38] never heard of anyone doing that [03:41] geek_, So netboot only means for installation? Not for live session? [03:41] sancho21: ya [03:43] Actually I've installed ubuntu there, but the boot was messed up by windows installation. There is now cdrom just pxe card. How to fix that? [03:43] the cdrom have just broken === bittin__4 is now known as bittin```` [03:53] sup [04:12] I just put a new motherboard and cpu into my computer and now I'm not getting any sound. Realtek ALC883. [04:12] When I boot I get this error at the top of the screen: [04:12] HDA ATI SB (ALC883 Analog) [04:12] Codec Realtek ALC883 does not work. [04:12] Then it reverts back to some other codec that doesn't function. [04:12] I can hear like half of the Kubuntu startup music before it cuts out. [04:12] Any ideas? [04:18] hola, como cambio a ubuntu, venezuela === vito is now known as Guest86231 [04:26] steevz: hmm, I've seen that one before myself ... I forget how to deal with it, I'll dig around [04:34] i need help, kopete in jaunty cant recieved and send webcam === cthompson_ is now known as tyler_d === Drachenblut is now known as Lord_Drachenblut === RoozbehOnline is now known as Roozbeh|Away [05:03] i just installed kubuntu and when i try to boot, i get "GRUB" and it doesn't do anything [05:04] does a list pop up? [05:04] nope, just the word GRUB [05:04] and a flashing cursor [05:05] i had a previous distro of linux + windows installed on this computer in the past [05:05] but i thought i wiped the hd clean [05:05] and just installed kubuntu on it [05:05] did you set in the install settings in advanced to install grub? [05:06] not for kubuntu, but i think i did a long time ago when my friend installed linux so it would dual boot and i could choose when i booted it up [05:07] ok, this is the error when grub is looking for the boot inmage in the wrog place [05:08] try this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-597227.html [05:16] I got a vaio laptop with an integrated camera and microhphone, but the microphone is not working [05:16] can you help me? [05:58] awesome work with 9.04. I haven't used KDE since 3.2 on Slackware 9. This is slick and makes a great alternative as a developer platfrom. It's very comfortable and the software is great. Good work! [06:03] buttcheeks === michael is now known as dROg [06:43] Hi for all! [06:44] Please how can I install KDE 4.2 stable on Ubuntu 8.10? I am learning Ubuntu... [06:44] sardano: see the channel topic [06:45] sardano: there's a link to a howto on the channel topic ;P [06:46] FAQ or News? [06:48] KDE 4.2.2 out http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.2 [06:48] that [06:48] geek: Thanks! === jpsnl1 is now known as JP-sNL === stephen is now known as Guest35091 [07:25] Hello [07:25] Hi [07:25] I'm having a problem with nepomuk [07:25] is there going to be an upgrade path between 8.04 w/ KDE3 and 9.04 w/ KDE3 or will it require a fresh install? [07:26] I started indexing, and I realized there was a folder I didn't want to index [07:26] I disabled it, but now when I continue indexing it still indexes the now disabled folder [07:26] Any ideas? [07:27] Sorry, no ideas [07:27] What is your notebook? [07:27] nukem2525: there's no official KDE3 for 9.04 [07:28] you'll probably end up needing to use a third party repo [07:28] What is a notebook? [07:28] yes [07:29] Sorry for bad english... i'm from russia [07:29] =) [07:32] lol [07:32] i think it'll be out next week, and ubuntu is and always will be free, freeze. === lca-qa5 is now known as mozarto === javes is now known as Aermornion [08:00] hi everyone is there a voip app on the live cd? === ubuntu is now known as wirechief [08:38] How to configure ODBC for postgres in ubuntu === ocs is now known as faLUCE [08:48] hi. how can I convert an unsigned int into a std::string representing its hex value ? thnks [08:59] i am on kde-look.org trying to download a theme how do i go about installing it? [09:02] anyone around? [09:14] <[EGC-i]ThinIce> Hi all. When running firefox, I get the following error back and it won't start. any ideas? Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 416: elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0xffffffff) == 8' failed! [09:15] hi, just installed 9.04 and found quassel-irc. is quassel the kde4 port of konversation? or is it a new project? [09:15] schmidtma: separate project [09:16] schmidtma: you can run quassel in server-client mode too, but by (Kubuntu)default it's client only [09:17] ah ok good to know. though i dont need an irc server :D [09:17] thanks [09:18] schmidtma: it's not irc server, more like "client server" (: [09:18] ok, i dont realy understand :) but i will have a look into quassel and i'm sure i will understand in the future [09:20] is konversations development halted? or is it just a new project for fun and honor? [09:20] schmidtma: Konversation is still going on, but it's not ready yet for everyday use [09:25] schmidtma: what he means is that the GUI is separated from everything the app does ... so you can be signed in once, and you can have multiple UIs for it, even across multiple with machines, all with the same sign-in, etc ... if that makes more sense [09:26] dwidmann, yes it does :) [10:12] hi all.. [10:13] just for my understanding.. if i want 4gb ram.. need i the 64bit version of ubuntu or will the 32bit see my 4gb? [10:14] noaXess: in 32bit, the kernel would take 1GB and userspace the other 3GB === RoozbehOnline is now known as Roozbeh|Away [10:14] noaXess: most of the 1GB would be wasted [10:15] JohnFlux: so.. .. wasted means not used? [10:15] right [10:15] JohnFlux: so better use 64bit version [10:15] noaXess: well some things don't work well in 64 bit version [10:15] i'm building i host machine for virtualbox and need ram.. so i think i will take 64bit and min 4gb ram [10:16] noaXess: typically propreitary plugins like flash [10:16] JohnFlux: don't need flash on this host.. it will be only ubuntu-server edition.. 64bit.. so, now X [10:16] no X [10:17] JohnFlux: flash seems to work fine for me here .... courtesy of nspluginwrapper, of course [10:17] dwidmann: yeah, just highlighting potential issues [10:18] If it's not an issue, why highlight it? Flash works fine ... [10:20] hello [10:21] hi zadrotta === Zen is now known as Guest82329 [10:27] JohnFlux: could install te server kernel and use PAE if you only ave a 32bit chip [10:28] * ActionParsnip checks his h key [10:28] ActionParsnip: use PAE on a 32 bit chip? [10:28] ActionParsnip: I don't think that works [10:28] JohnFlux: the server install allows more RAM to be used on a 32bit rig [10:29] ActionParsnip: Isn't it only for when the rig is 64bit but the kernel is 32bit? [10:31] JohnFlux: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/out-of-memory-on-16gb-ram-pae-32bit-2.6.23-596609/ [10:31] JohnFlux: you can run a 32bit OS on a 64bit chip but with linux there is no need now (Ive had isues with Java but i dont use it personally so no issue here) [10:32] ActionParsnip: that post still sounds like the hardware is 64bit [10:32] but with a 32 bit kernel [10:32] JohnFlux: te kernel manages the memory [10:32] JohnFlux: so the memory access is limited by the addressing that the kernel can perform [10:33] ActionParsnip: you underlying hardware still needs to use 64 bit addressing etc [10:34] JohnFlux: i guess so [10:34] ah wikipedia says: [10:34] The x86 processor hardware is augmented with additional address lines used to select the additional memory, so physical address size is increased from 32 bits to 36 bits. [10:34] JohnFlux: you'll find most 32bit boards only support limited ram [10:34] So you can use PAE on 32bit architecture with the 4 etc address lines === Zen is now known as Guest52742 [10:37] Hi doez somebody knows how do i export evolution accounts to kmails? [10:39] !info backup [10:39] Package backup does not exist in intrepid [10:39] !backup [10:39] There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning [10:39] !cloning [10:39] To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate [10:45] !info mondo [10:45] mondo (source: mondo): powerful disaster recovery suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.24-2ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 415 kB, installed size 1208 kB === mogul218_ is now known as mogul218 [11:03] hi [11:06] hi === rjb is now known as drbobb === Roozbeh|Away is now known as RoozbehOnline === luca is now known as mu-tu [12:09] Hi. I'm using a logitech headset - usb - and I'm in kde 4.2.00's system settings menu under multimedia. I'm setting the headset for priority in all areas, and the test works. Problem is, amarok--my favorite audio program--is not coming through the headset, but through the main speakers. What might be wrong? [12:09] I have amarok's engine set to autodetect [12:10] hi guys, i have kubuntu 9,4 installed and face a lot of problems with my desktop. window management gets crazy, my mouse is almos unusuable. is there anybody that has a clue what the problem might be? [12:15] Re-iterating my question of yesterday: [Hardy Heron] I'm finding that krdc frequently crashes when I'm using it for VNC. Is there any way I can change the VNC backend that krdc uses, but still continue using krdc? The other VNC viewers out there are lacking support for a few features that krdc has [12:17] Assurbanipal: join #ubuntu+1 [12:18] tnx guys! [12:24] how to look process [12:24] could you give me the command for looking process [12:27] why is amarok 1 the default amarok for 4.2.00? [12:27] instead of amarok 2? === mac_ is now known as mac_perrin === tongoulart is now known as ton [12:42] test === peace is now known as Peace- === Patrick is now known as Guest93890 [12:47] if someone if you build a ubuntu server... running 24/7 for a small business: file, dhcp, dns and a virtualbox with a spec winxp install for a windows application.. what hardware would you choose? [12:47] c2d based hardware or xeon based? === administrator_ is now known as richcy === administrator_ is now known as richcy [12:59] hello folks, can i create .iso file from dvd/cd with k3b ? [13:03] petsounds: try it :) [13:05] ....> [13:06] petsounds: open k3b-------> copy cd --------> create only image [13:06] wtf complicated xD [13:07] Peace-: peace :) [13:07] xD [13:07] can't detect source medium [13:07] Peace- and petsounds try http://www.acetoneteam.org/ [13:08] omg acetone [13:08] AcetoneISO [13:08] nope [13:08] i will never use that [13:08] Peace-: why? [13:08] konsole [13:08] :)d [13:08] and my bash script work better [13:08] ok.. :) right.. but is a nice tool [13:09] my kde4 is on 230 mega of ram [13:09] you wanna give me another stuff no no :) [13:19] hi, is it possible to install kubuntu whhile it is running as live-cd? [13:20] matisse: thats the default way of installing [13:21] so kde is running, what do I start now? [13:22] hey guys i just install kubuntu 9.04 and there are only 3 things I can't yet figure out: 1) is it possible to open links with a middle-click in new tabs in konqueror 2) how do i autologin to kwallet? i hate to type in password just for the second time just after kdm, just to connect to wireless 3) i cant find keyboard layout switch anywhere - and users of my comp are multilingual [13:22] matisse: of course [13:22] matisse you have an icon on the desktop =) [13:22] matisse: like ubuntu... [13:22] theres no icon... [13:23] matisse: where did you get that live... [13:23] (maybe because its 64bit?) [13:23] no. [13:23] that live is a sucking iso [13:23] is it possible to open links with a middle-click in new tabs in konqueror? [13:24] dont know, it has been printed and all the stuff [13:24] every live cd of kubunut is liek ubuntu live so you have to have that icon [13:24] matisse: download a not bad live cd [13:25] kociak: you have to create a shortcut [13:25] no, I just restart and install [13:25] Is there a big difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu? [13:25] yes kubuntu is very sexy [13:25] xD [13:26] no pulse stuff for audio [13:26] in primis [13:26] peace [13:26] and many other stuff [13:26] what kind of shortcut? [13:27] kociak: settings---> configure shortcuts [13:28] u mean in konqueror settings? [13:28] of course [13:30] the only "shortcuts" i can see there are browser address shortcuts .. like gg for google [13:32] if you don't see that go on systemsettings ---> input actions [13:32] it's a bit hard but... === diego is now known as Guest78768 [13:37] ow do i autologin to kwallet? [13:38] how* [13:39] kociak: depending on the program you are wanting to run lets say kopete [13:39] it will pop up a box that prompts for your pass word kociak [13:40] i know that eagle [13:40] i mean password for whole kwallet session === javier__ is now known as areiv [13:41] kociak- you can try changing the password for the wallet to be empty [13:41] hi everyone [13:43] I'm having problems while writing in forums. When I try to send the message, most of times it never does it, and I've identified that it's due to sending quotes [13:44] with firefox, opera and konqueror [13:44] do you know about this "bug"? [13:45] a similar problem is with thunderbird mail client [13:45] Never heard of that bug [13:46] the only way is to remove the quotation part of the message, or even sometimes to write a new one [13:46] Well, not with the browser, anyway. I've seen plenty of web apps that don't handle user input correctly [13:47] This happens on more than one site? [13:47] yes [13:47] hola buenas tardes.. [13:47] !es [13:47] En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [13:48] Does it happen on http://ubuntuforums.org/ ? [13:48] tks [13:48] 'Morning all === kudunut is now known as akubuntu === javier__ is now known as areiv2 [13:52] sorry, i lost power supply [13:52] can anyone repeat the response sombody told me? [13:53] areiv2- Does it happen on http://ubuntuforums.org/ ? [13:53] i'll try [13:54] but, it happens with several sites [13:54] even with thunderbird [13:55] so, it has to be from de os i think [13:55] *the [14:01] i think this is a never seen problem [14:01] but it's a little annoying === k4v is now known as m4v [14:13] No radeonhd 1.2.5 for Kubuntu 9.04 it seems :( [14:14] well... at least not through package management === Deathmath is now known as Anyoseyo [15:20] I'm trying to install kubuntu on a external hard drive [15:21] I'm not sure whether I should use wubi or just unetbootin [15:22] Anyoseyo: i suspect unetbootin [15:23] thanks [15:23] also, would it be worth it to wait the extra two days for 9.04? [15:24] geek_ [15:27] Anyoseyo: well, i'm running it now [15:28] so i obviously think not ;p [15:29] so you recomomend downloading the release client geek_? [15:29] I'm sort of new to this [15:29] i installed 6.x some time back but [15:31] Anyoseyo: There's likely to be bugs, and such, but it seems alright to me for the most part, other than a few random freezes (which has stopped) and a rather annoying irc client [15:31] 6.x? thats... old [15:35] geek_: Dapper is still supported [15:36] genii: true. dosen't make it any less old ;p [15:39] and kubuntu has auto update, no? [15:40] and couldn't you use WINE for mIRC? [15:41] ewww [15:41] why would anyone want Mirc? [15:41] I like it for the scripts [15:41] you could [15:41] what do you like? [15:41] * geek_ uses konversation or kvirc [15:41] again i'm mostly a windows person [15:42] ah [15:42] i use kvirc on windows ;p [15:42] quassel ftw [15:42] devilsadvocate_: i don't really like how it handles channels and servers [15:42] so you recommend getting the iso of hte release client and putting it on my external hard drive? [15:42] * geek_ reinstalled konversation [15:42] with unetbootin [15:42] Anyoseyo: actually that sounds like a good way to try it out [15:43] geek_: you gotta love the core-client setup, and the selection of text, and the kde notifications [15:43] kk :) [15:43] urgh no torrent >.> [15:44] devilsadvocate_: My main issue is with channel management ;p [15:44] oh [15:44]