[00:06] <jcole> ripps: its probably building open office
[00:06]  * jcole ducks
[00:07] <ripps> jcole: actually, it looks like a bunch of xulrunner and gcc
[01:30] <thewrath> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/364387\
[02:30] <jamesh> thewrath: that feature uses the <canvas> element which is not supported by Internet Explorer, and IE compatible equivalent is available.
[02:30] <thewrath> ok
[02:31] <thewrath> was not aware of that
[02:31] <jamesh> it is being drawn on the client side
[02:31] <thewrath> ah
[02:31] <thewrath> any way taht could be changed?
[02:33] <wgrant> IE moving into this century.
[02:34] <jamesh> thewrath: given that the graph isn't required for use of Launchpad, and the proportion of visitors using IE is not too high, I don't know when we'll get round to addressing it.
[02:35] <jamesh> That said, the source code will be released in a few months, so if someone else is interested in fixing it they can submit a patch.
[02:35] <cody-somerville> and given how useless the graph generally is...
[02:35] <cody-somerville> : P
[02:36] <wgrant> It should be useless.
[02:36] <wgrant> It should be black with a tiny sliver of other colours.
[02:37] <cody-somerville> I prefer my bugs fixed, not triaged :P
[02:37] <wgrant> Closed bugs don't show up.
[02:37] <jamesh> fix committed bugs do.
[02:37] <wgrant> True.
[04:32] <renpytom> Hello.
[04:32] <renpytom> Does anyone know if there's a way to close all bugs associated with a milestone. (Flag them as fix released?)
[04:34] <rockstar> renpytom, I use a script to do it.
[04:34] <renpytom> is the script available anywhere?
[04:35] <rockstar> renpytom, I'll paste it for you.  I'm currently working on making it part of a release script.
[04:39] <rockstar> renpytom, http://rafb.net/p/mFhupU90.html
[04:40] <renpytom> Thanks.
[04:40] <rockstar> renpytom, just change PROJECT and MILESTONE to be the project and milestone you want to close.
[04:46] <renpytom> rockstar, thanks.
[04:46] <renpytom> it worked well, and saved me a lot of boring work.
[04:50] <rockstar> renpytom, yeah, that's why I wrote it.  I closed ~300 bugs with it about two weeks ago.
[04:55] <renpytom> well, thanks again.
[05:33] <savvas> wow, estimated time 12 hours :P https://edge.launchpad.net/~medigeek/+archive/experimental/+build/955579 https://edge.launchpad.net/~medigeek/+archive/experimental/+build/955580
[05:37] <wgrant> I guess somebody took back three quarters of the builders for release.
[05:38] <wgrant> It looks like i386 could do with one of the lpia builders reassigned.
[05:38] <wgrant> And maybe even bring one of the others back.
[05:38] <wgrant> But that should do it.
[05:38] <savvas> oh yeah! I forgot about that heh. I think I'll cancel it though, the lpia build failed: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/25802962/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-lpia.packagekit-gnome_0.3.13-0ubuntu2~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[05:39] <wgrant> You can't cancel it.
[05:39] <savvas> so if I delete the sources, the queue will still go?
[05:40] <wgrant> Good question.
[05:40] <wgrant> It might end up as 'Build for superseded Source', but I'm not sure if that's only for Superseded rather than Deleted.
[05:40] <savvas> I tried that before, I didn't get any errors from launchpad in that case about a missing source :)
[05:41] <wgrant> It's possible it would fail to upload.
[05:41] <wgrant> But I don't remember.
[05:41] <savvas> ok thanks!
[05:42] <savvas> I'll let it flow, it's not super-time sensitive, I'm testing a fix for bug 349572
[05:46] <joey> wgrant, Happy Birthday :-)
[05:47] <wgrant> joey: Thanks!
[05:47] <wgrant> Am I to blame Facebook for this?
[05:47] <savvas> happy birthday!!
[05:48] <spm> mneptok: interesting post ref sun/mysql! we do live in "Interesting Times!" :-)
[05:48] <joey> wgrant, :-)
[05:48] <spm> wgrant: happy birthday!!
[05:48] <wgrant> spm, savvas: Thanks.
[05:49] <wgrant> I suppose I'm going to be un-Australian by not getting my license today.
[05:51] <spm> wgrant: depends. L or P? if L? yes and you will be cast out of Australia into Tasmania. If P, shrug. care factor. :-D
[05:52] <wgrant> spm: Well, I should probably have got my Ls at some point in the last two years... but I am yet to.
[05:52]  * wgrant heads for Bass Strait.
[05:54] <jamesh> if you do get cast into Tasmania, you'll get access to the NBN early
[05:54] <wgrant> jamesh: Good point, good point.
[05:55] <wgrant> Which means we can exceed obscenely small download quotas in even fewer minutes.
[05:55] <jamesh> or realise that 100Mbps to the home doesn't increase the capacity of the underwater cables
[05:56] <jamesh> or magically reduce the latency
[05:56] <wgrant> The capacity is being fixed.
[05:56] <wgrant> Latency... blah.
[05:57] <jamesh> I've used 512kbps connections in the US that felt faster than 1.5Mbps links over here
[05:57] <lifeless> writing high latency network code is hard
[05:58] <lifeless> and web browsers only soso insulate you - as you know jamesh :)
[05:58] <mwhudson> lifeless: "writing high latency network code is hard" could be misinterpreted :)
[05:58] <spm> jamesh: all we need are warp gates for the fibre pairs. exceed the speed of light, latency problem goes away. easy! I have faith in our federal government to produce these and other miracles on demand.
[05:58] <lifeless> mwhudson: anything can be
[05:59] <mwhudson> spm: is the speed of light thing really relevant?
[05:59] <wgrant> mwhudson: Yes, it gets relevant at that sort of distance.
[05:59] <mwhudson> light can get quite a lot further than london and back in .3s
[05:59] <jamesh> spm: I think tunnels through the centre of the earth might be the answer.  The shortest distance between two points is a straight line, after all
[05:59] <wgrant> Sure, it doesn't account for *all* of it.
[06:00] <mwhudson> oh, hm, not all that much more
[06:00] <jamesh> none of this great circle nonsense
[06:00] <mwhudson> jamesh: :)
[06:00] <spm> mwhudson: highly relevant! http://www.ibiblio.org/harris/500milemail.html
[06:01] <lifeless> mwhudson: the earth is big
[06:03] <mwhudson> spm: wow
[06:03] <wgrant> spm: Nice, nice.
[06:04] <spm> mwhudson: and you thought sysadmin was only restarting busted web services... :-P
[06:04] <mwhudson> spm: nah
[06:04] <mwhudson> spm: i'm sure installing packages comes into it somewhere too
[06:05]  * spm waits to finish lol'ing before trying to respond to that....
[06:08] <jamesh> spm: why didn't the sysadmin use a packaged version of the MTA?
[06:08] <jamesh> that way the OS upgrade shouldn't have nuked it
[06:08] <Peng_> You know those buggy stacked branches? Could that happen when LP automatically stacks a mirrored branch?
[06:09] <spm> jamesh: solaris/sunos patchsets always clobber sendmail-isms. .. or were till at least Sol8. used to clobber my postfix setup on firewalls. very ARGHish.
[06:09] <wgrant> That's Solaris for you.
[06:09] <jamesh> spm: sounds like a good reason not to use Solaris
[06:09] <spm> jamesh: and sendmail 5 vs sendmail8 or postfix? yuk. just *yuk.
[06:11] <spm> if memory serves. sendmail was part of the core OS. rightly or not (ie not). one of those horrible backward compatibile nonsense rules. Made sense, but was also a real trap.
[06:18] <savvas> are the launchpad PPA build logs deleted after some time?
[06:18] <wgrant> savvas: Only retried builds, IIRC.
[06:19] <savvas> bug 249104 - http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16047515/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-sparc.packagekit-gnome_0.2.3-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz says 404 error :\
[06:20] <wgrant> savvas: Chances are the build was retried.
[06:20] <wgrant> And that obliterates the old log.
[06:21] <wgrant> (well, not directly, but it removes the reference to it, so the file gets GCed eventually)
[06:21] <savvas> ok thanks :)
[06:21] <wgrant> spm: It really looks like you need an extra i386 virt builder.
[06:41] <HammerHead66> how is everyone today?
[06:50] <toobaz3> Hello. https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/pyclutter/+bug/267478 should track a remote bug, but it didn't notice the remote bug was fixed, and if I go in changing details, I see  "Launchpad couldn't import bug #494242 from Debian Bug tracker." However, the Debian bug page is absolutely OK... should I file a bug about launchpad?
[07:51] <MTecknology> hurray, 2am and I finally got my assignment done. :)
[07:51] <mneptok> spm: :)
[07:51] <MTecknology> 20+hr worth of work :)
[07:51] <MTecknology> and this is the wrong channel
[07:51] <noodles775> Congrats anyway MTecknology :)
[07:52] <MTecknology> thanks
[07:53] <MTecknology> wish I could sleep w/ all this noise - I hate dorms
[10:18]  * mpt reads https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/363584/comments/2
[10:19] <mpt> The frustrating mystery of bug 88818 continues
[10:20] <noodles775> lol... wonder if there's an easy way to check... "Are you really sure this is a launchpad bug??" without being annoying...
[10:21]  * noodles775 reads the bug
[10:21] <maxb> It could check whether you're a member of the ~yes-i-understand-what-launchpad-actually-is team :-)
[10:22] <maxb> and refuse to let you file otherwise
[10:37] <rowinggolfer> whoever is responsible for the howtos on becoming an ubutero.. very clear. thanks
[14:46] <cumulus007> Hi, are there plas to speed up launchpad? It's freaking slow to me
[14:46] <beuno> cumulus007, yes
[14:46] <cumulus007> *plans. For example, it takes about 15 seconds to load a page with translations
[14:46] <beuno> we're actively working to making it much faster
[14:47] <beuno> cumulus007, which URL specifically?
[14:47] <cumulus007> okay, great :) Can you tell me when this will be applied?
[14:47] <beuno> cumulus007, it's an on going task
[14:47] <beuno> we do performance weeks once a month
[14:47] <cumulus007> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+lang/nl/+index?start=0&batch=75
[14:47] <cumulus007> okay
[14:47] <beuno> danilo_, ^
[14:48] <cumulus007> I hev been here before, with the same issue
[14:48] <cumulus007> *have.
[14:51] <danilo_> cumulus007: if we promised to support batch sizes of 75, we would have made it the default :) unfortunately, if you can use a hacked batch size, you need to use the default of 10
[14:51] <danilo_> s/can use/can't use/
[14:51] <danilo_> cumulus007: why do you need to see so many messages?
[14:52] <cumulus007> danilo_: since it's really hard to find a translation package in launchpad. The most important packages are listed first, so with a high batch number I can see all important packages at once
[14:53] <danilo_> cumulus007: ah, sorry, misread the link
[14:53] <kiko> danilo: DRL
[14:53] <danilo_> cumulus007: that one is being worked on, it should be fixed soon
[14:53] <danilo_> kiko: right
[14:54] <cumulus007> danilo_: okay, that would be great, and would spare a lot of time to me :)
[14:55] <danilo_> cumulus007: I am sorry you are seeing this, we are going to fix it asap
[14:56] <cumulus007> danilo_: np :)
[15:33] <MagicFab> Hi all
[15:33] <MagicFab> I can't seem to file bugs from here:
[15:33] <MagicFab> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[15:34] <MagicFab> I always get Timeout error when I press continue, it's been the case for a few *days* now, no matter where I am
[15:34] <kiko> MagicFab, OOPSID?
[15:34] <MagicFab> Last one was  (Error ID: OOPS-1207EB187)
[15:35] <ripps> For some reason, I'm having trouble building a gmpc package for lpia. I finishes building, but I get an uploading error. I've never gotten this before. https://edge.launchpad.net/~gmpc-trunk/+archive/ppa/+build/955999
[15:35]  * MagicFab suspects the description field is where th eproblem originates
[15:36] <cprov> ripps: the binaries are already there, ignore the error.
[15:36] <MagicFab> kiko, my original description for the bug was:
[15:36] <MagicFab> Small USB mouse [09da:0006] is not recgnized, "can't set config #1, error -32" error, works with PS/2 adapter
[15:36] <MagicFab> Making it shorter works
[15:37] <noodles775> ripps, cprov: the upload log says:
[15:37] <noodles775> 2009-04-21 14:31:23 ERROR   Exception while accepting:
[15:37] <noodles775>  duplicate key value violates unique constraint "binarypackagerelease_binarypackagename_key"
[15:37] <noodles775>  -> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/25826463/ngSDHt6QPwkjwZYXs45yw1Q8BS4.txt (duplicate key value violates unique constraint "binarypackagerelease_binarypackagename_key"
[15:37] <noodles775> )
[15:37] <ripps> noodles775: What exactly does that mean?
[15:38] <cprov> ripps: your build got dispatched twice due to a problem in our system.
[15:38] <noodles775> Ah, thanks cprov (I wanted to know too!)
[15:59] <kiko> MagicFab, let me show this to BjornT
[16:12] <MagicFab> kiko, sure thing, I've file the bug otherwise, but that subject was giving "timeout" - I guess the message should have also been "too long" or "invalid characters" etc
[16:12] <MagicFab> tx
[16:16] <kiko> MagicFab, it's weird, there's something wrong there
[16:16] <kiko> MagicFab, always timing out on that
[17:38] <poolie> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jspashett/bzr/bug_84659_allow_writes/revision/3942 seems to be failing... (jml)
[17:40] <jml> poolie: EdwinGrubbs's the help contact :)
[17:44] <poolie> it's ok now
[17:46] <jml> poolie: perhaps more helpfully, the code browsing service is known to be unreliable.
[17:46] <jml> poolie: and we're working very hard to make it better
[18:08] <jcole> hi guys
[18:08] <jcole> how do i go about getting my password removed from an apport bug report stacktrace
[18:16] <KIAaze> hi, I  just got the following rejection message from my PPA: The source netgen - 4.9.7-0ubuntu1 is already accepted in ubuntu/intrepid and you cannot upload the same version within the same distribution. You have to modify the source version and re-upload.
[18:16] <KIAaze> however the version in the repositories is 4.4
[18:16] <bigjools> you're trying to upload to Ubuntu, not your PPA
[18:17] <KIAaze> no, I put my PPA in the dput command
[18:17] <bigjools> ah sorry I misread
[18:17] <bigjools> end-of-day-tired-eyes
[18:17] <cprov> KIAaze: what's your PPA url ?
[18:17] <cprov> KIAaze: did that version ever existed in your PPA ?
[18:17] <KIAaze> https://launchpad.net/~zohn-joidberg/+archive/engrid
[18:18] <KIAaze> yes
[18:18] <KIAaze> but I deleted it.
[18:18] <bigjools> you can't upload the same version again, even if you delete it
[18:18] <KIAaze> :(
[18:18] <bigjools> it's to prevent problems with apt clients
[18:19] <bigjools> if it sees the same version again with different checksums, it will fail
[18:19] <Edgar1> I'm kind of new in this, can someone explain me what the PPA is all about?
[18:20] <KIAaze> it's a personal repository
[18:20] <KIAaze> you can build your own .debs on it and make them available for others
[18:22] <KIAaze> Do I have to change the version number everywhere or only in debian/changelog?
[18:22] <KIAaze> I'd like to keep the 4.9.7 since it's the version of the .tar.gz
[18:24] <EdwinGrubbs> KIAaze: I believe you can just change the -0ubuntu1 part of the version and leave the 4.9.7 part the same.
[18:24] <KIAaze> thx
[18:24] <KIAaze> I used dch which automaticcally created an entry with 0ubuntu2
[18:25] <KIAaze> testing with pbuilder now
[18:33] <maxb> KIAaze: In general you should never upload things to PPAs with version numbers which look like they could be used in Ubuntu itself, because that gets confusing
[18:33] <maxb> You could call it 4.9.7-0ubuntu1ppa1 for example
[18:34] <KIAaze> well, what's the best way to make the ubuntu/debian maintainers upgrade their version? :)
[18:36] <maxb> Produce an updated package yourself, and submit it for sponsored upload to ubuntu. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess
[18:41] <KIAaze> ok, so I almost finished the first part. :)
[18:43] <KIAaze> Isn't it better to submit updated packages to Debian first?
[18:44] <maxb> ideally, yes
[18:58] <KIAaze> hey, why did my PPA only build for i386? :(
[18:59] <KIAaze> is Architecture: All different from Architecture: Any?
[19:01] <cody-somerville> Yes
[19:01] <cody-somerville> KIAaze, does your package *need* to be built on all the different architectures?
[19:01] <KIAaze> I think so
[19:01] <KIAaze> not sure
[19:02] <KIAaze> it's C++
[19:02] <cody-somerville> KIAaze, Yea, I'd say so. :)
[19:03] <KIAaze> actually it didn't build any .debs
[19:04] <KIAaze> it just says bvuilds: i386 but ther's no .deb to download
[19:04] <KIAaze> oops, no, just a missing page refresh
[19:12] <LarstiQ> KIAaze: All is for architecture independent packages, they will be built only once.
[19:12] <KIAaze> ok, thx
[19:13] <KIAaze> I put that in because before it didn't build for lpia and that was the solution I found somewhere on the net.
[19:13] <KIAaze> the original package had a list of archs
[19:14] <LarstiQ> KIAaze: that might be valid, not all packages can actually be built for all archs
[19:42] <vadi2> hi. it seems its impossible to open https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/218515 - it redirects to https://bugs.launchpad.net/acton/+bug/218515 which is wrong
[19:43] <vadi2> well, worked for the bot for some reason.
[19:47] <EdwinGrubbs> vadi2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/218515 will always redirect you to the url which specifies the project name that the bug belongs to. Are you not able to view the bug after you are redirected?
[19:48] <vadi2> no
[19:48] <KIAaze> now I can't see the package on my PPA in synaptic. :(
[19:48] <vadi2> I get to https://bugs.launchpad.net/acton/+bug/218515
[19:48] <LarstiQ> KIAaze: is it published yet?
[19:48] <vadi2> which is a "lost something"? page
[19:49] <KIAaze> yes
[19:49] <KIAaze> https://launchpad.net/~zohn-joidberg/+archive/engrid
[19:49] <KIAaze> Could it have something to do with it having   a version nb ending in 0ubuntu3 instead of 0ubuntu1?
[19:49] <vadi2> EdwinGrubbs: http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/12805/screenshot_39_eDhxCJ.png
[19:49] <KIAaze> I even deactivated all official repositories, to leave only the PPA
[19:49] <LarstiQ> KIAaze: try `apt-cache policy <package-name>`
[19:49] <cprov> KIAaze: which source are you missing ?
[19:50] <KIAaze> netgen
[19:50] <KIAaze> I can see togl in synaptic without problems
[19:51] <cprov> KIAaze: https://edge.launchpad.net/~zohn-joidberg/+archive/engrid/+build/956186
[19:51] <cprov> KIAaze: says it was *built* 7 minutes ago
[19:51] <cprov> KIAaze: it missed the publishing run on :40 and will be published in the next one (:00)
[19:51] <KIAaze> ah ok :)
[20:04] <EdwinGrubbs> vadi2:It appears that you cannot see that bug anymore because it is marked as a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/matchbox-keyboard/+bug/205871
[20:04] <EdwinGrubbs> vadi2: I'm trying to determine if this is an error or if it is intended that only admins can see the duplicate bug.
[20:05] <vadi2> are you sure
[20:05] <vadi2> I'm interested in the gtk+ bug
[20:05] <vadi2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/218515
[20:05] <vadi2> see, it gives two... I'd like the first one
[20:06] <vadi2> not the ppa issue. It looks like something is confused here.
[20:06] <vadi2> Ahh my apoligies.
[20:06] <vadi2> didn't see that it said duplicate. didn't realize someone would mark it as such too :)
[20:26] <EdwinGrubbs> vadi2: I figured it out. You couldn't view that bug since the acton project has been deactivated.
[20:28] <vadi2> Ahh.
[20:28] <vadi2> Guess that makes sense, but I guess LP should say that, yeah?
[21:24] <cgregan> joey: ping
[21:34] <thewrath> how do you proposa to merge towo branches together?
[21:38] <rockstar> thewrath, cd $first_branch; bzr merge $second_branch
[21:38] <thewrath> so like bzr merge lp:~michaelbrown2009/mikesats/mikesats1
[21:41] <thewrath> $ bzr send -o mycode.patch what about that command
[21:41] <LarstiQ> thewrath: if you have write rights to the branch you want to merge into, then do what rockstar said
[21:41] <LarstiQ> thewrath: launchpad has some ui to propose doing it, is that what you meant?
[21:41] <thewrath> ui?
[21:41] <thewrath> I have two branches. I want to move branch2 into branch1
[21:41] <rockstar> thewrath, what are the two branches you need merged, and which one is the focus?
[21:42] <rockstar> thewrath, do you have branch1 and branch2 on your machine?
[21:42] <LarstiQ> thewrath: then just do it :)
[21:42] <thewrath> branch 2 not branch1
[21:42] <thewrath> should i go and download branch1?
[21:42] <LarstiQ> thewrath: yes
[21:42] <thewrath> ok
[21:43] <thewrath> then to merge branch 2 with branch 1 do what
[21:43] <thewrath> cd into branch 2 and then  bzr mergebranch 1
[21:44] <LarstiQ> thewrath: Presuming branch2 is the branc you want to merge _into_, yes
[21:44] <LarstiQ> otherwise, change the cd and the merge commands
[21:45] <LarstiQ> thewrath: after the merge, review it (bzr status, bzr diff, conflicts, whatever gives you enough confidence the merge is done right) and the commit it
[21:45] <thewrath> okay
[21:45] <thewrath> i have mikesats and mikesats1
[21:45] <thewrath> i want to merge everything into mikesats
[21:46] <rockstar> thewrath, cd mikesats; bzr merge mikesats1; bzr commit -m "Merge from mikesats1"
[21:46]  * LarstiQ nods
[21:47] <thewrath> I get nothing to do
[21:47] <rockstar> thewrath, that will merge mikesats1 into mikesats with a commit message of "Merge from mikesats1"
[21:47] <rockstar> thewrath, that means that you don't need to merge the two branches.
[21:47] <thewrath> why i know there is a file missing in mikesats
[21:47] <LarstiQ> thewrath: does `bzr missing` think mikesats1 has no extra revisions?
[21:48] <thewrath> when i run bzr merge mikesats1 all i get is nothing to do
[21:49] <LarstiQ> thewrath: bzr merge ../mikesats1?
[21:50] <LarstiQ> thewrath: unfortunately merge doesn't give the clearest message if you point it at a non-existing branch
[21:50] <thewrath> ok
[21:50] <thewrath> hold on i think i have it figured out
[21:50] <LarstiQ> thewrath: so make sure you give merge the path to your mikesats1 branch
[21:52] <thewrath> Branches have no common ancester, and no merge base revision was specififed
[21:52] <thewrath> when i do bzr merge ../launchpad
[21:52] <thewrath> i haev all my stuff in C:\xampp\htdocs\Launchpad Branches
[21:52] <LarstiQ> thewrath: ah, you seperately `bzr init`ed the two branches?
[21:52] <thewrath> the two in that directory is mikesats (first directory) and Launchpad (second branch)
[21:52] <thewrath> yes i did
[21:53] <LarstiQ> thewrath: right, that would give you this then
[21:53] <thewrath> i want to move everything in launchpad to mikesats
[21:53] <LarstiQ> thewrath: are their contents vastly different, or do they represent similar content?
[21:54] <thewrath> same except one fiel
[21:54] <LarstiQ> thewrath: do you want to keep the history of the mikesats1 branch?
[21:54] <thewrath> no
[21:54] <LarstiQ> ok
[21:54]  * LarstiQ tries something out
[21:59]  * thewrath thanks LarstiQ a head of time 
[22:00] <magcius> Would it be considered a bug that when you create a branch in Launchpad it doesn't make a .bzr directory?
[22:00] <thewrath> no
[22:00] <LarstiQ> magcius: create it how?
[22:01] <thewrath> i dont th ink so bc that happens to me all the time i have brought it up and just been told to use the --use-ext-directory or what ever it is
[22:01] <thewrath> LarstiQ: create it right on Launchpad
[22:01] <magcius> It seems kind of awkward to use --use-existing-directory
[22:01] <magcius> LarstiQ, use the Register a Branch feature.
[22:01]  * LarstiQ creates branches by pushing them
[22:01] <magcius> LarstiQ, you can do that?
[22:01] <LarstiQ> magcius: yes, that is much more natural to me than registering a branch on the web
[22:02] <magcius> LarstiQ, if I knew you could do that I would have done it.
[22:02] <magcius> So bzr push ~username/+junk/mybranchname?
[22:02] <magcius> err
[22:02] <magcius> bzr push lp:~username/+junk/mybranchname?
[22:02] <thewrath> soudnds right
[22:02] <LarstiQ> magcius: lp:~username/project/branch, yes
[22:02] <LarstiQ> magcius: there is also the `bzr register-branch` command
[22:03] <thewrath> LarstiQ: let me know when you think you got something betw
[22:03] <thewrath> *btw
[22:03] <LarstiQ> magcius: but that's more for remote branches I think
[22:03] <LarstiQ> thewrath: I will
[22:03] <thewrath> thanks!
[22:06] <LarstiQ> thewrath: it's not really usual in bzr to have branches without a common ancestor representing the same branch, so I need to experiment a bit
[22:06] <thewrath> ok
[22:06] <thewrath> yea i understand
[22:14] <LarstiQ> thewrath: hmm, I might not get something sensible before my bedtime
[22:15] <thewrath> ok
[22:15] <thewrath> lol
[22:15] <thewrath> i can just remove the one
[22:16] <LarstiQ> thewrath: if you remember to `bzr branch` instead of `bzr init`, this would be easier ;)
[22:16] <LarstiQ> alternatively, I could just forget about coming up with a recipe and do the merge for you
[22:16] <LarstiQ> with handwork of unix tools and vim
[22:17] <thewrath> whaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
[22:18] <LarstiQ> thewrath: I'm guessing it will take me less time to apply a hammer and do everything by hand, then come up with something you could repeat
[22:18] <thewrath> ok
[22:18] <thewrath> how do i remove a branch?
[22:18] <LarstiQ> thewrath: from your local disk, just remove the directory
[22:18] <thewrath> i mean on launchpad
[22:18]  * LarstiQ would say `rm -rf` but you're on windows
[22:19] <LarstiQ> thewrath: there is a delete branch button I think
[22:19] <savvas> rmdir -q if I remember well :)
[22:19] <savvas> anyway, good night :)
[22:19] <LarstiQ> thewrath: do you see such a button on https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~michaelbrown2009/mikesats/mikesats1 ?
[22:21] <thewrath> no i dont
[22:23] <thewrath> i got it
[22:25] <LarstiQ> thewrath: ok, good night then
[22:25] <thewrath> have fun
[22:25]  * LarstiQ falls asleep
[22:26] <thewrath> a question for a person who is still here what does a blue plus sign mean on a file instead of a green circle with a checkmark
[22:27] <thewrath> found out
[22:49] <KIAaze> hi again, I keep getting warnings like this when running "debuild -S -sa": dpkg-source: warning: ignoring deletion of file debian/togl.default.ex
[22:49] <KIAaze> how do I get rid of them?
[22:50] <KIAaze> and especially rid of the files i deleted
[23:07] <Ampelbein> hi! is there a problem with updating remote bugwatches that use mantis? see bug 316590 - lp complains the issue was non-existent but it's there.
[23:20] <KIAaze> do built packages only appear on the web page after :00 or :40?
[23:25] <wgrant> KIAaze: :00, :20 and :40.
[23:25] <KIAaze> ok, thx
[23:25] <KIAaze> so it's not only the synaptic repository for which I have to wait
[23:29] <wgrant> KIAaze: It's a bit inconsistent - sources will appear on Launchpad every 5 minutes, when the FTP server is checked. They will only appear in your repository every 20 minutes. Binaries only appear on the web page every 20 minutes, but I believe there's working ongoing to make that more obvious.