| NCommander | lamont, so seemingly Ubuntu jaunty/sparc is semi-happy; I just managed to boot an installer CD | 16:21 |
|---|---|---|
| lamont | coolness | 16:39 |
| * lamont will pull even fresher CDs today, and go trash his hppa box tonight late | 16:40 | |
| NCommander | lamont, well, the sparc CD itself though is hosed | 16:48 |
| NCommander | :-/ | 16:48 |
| NCommander | Its suffering from no cd modules in the kernel (a bug we had in powerpc; two cents says it affects ALL port architectures) | 16:49 |
| * lamont adds netinst to his mirror tree | 16:49 | |
| NCommander | lamont, which port architectures do you have, HPPA, SPARC, Ia64? | 16:50 |
| lamont | yeah - I haz thouze. | 16:52 |
| NCommander | lamont, I can't find cheap ia64s, although I now have more SPARC boxes then I know what to do with :-/ | 16:52 |
| * NCommander also just can't find used PA-RISCs at an acceptable price point | 16:53 | |
| lamont | yeah - and sparc is the most problematic of the bunch for me | 16:53 |
| lamont | in terms of "need to find a serial console whatsit for it" | 16:53 |
| NCommander | lamont, I have two, want one? | 16:53 |
| NCommander | lamont, want one of mine, I have an Ultra 10, a Nextra X1 and T1 (although I think the X1's NIC is fried), and the hairdrier^W SunFire v120 | 16:54 |
| * lamont has an SB1000 or so | 16:54 | |
| NCommander | I got all my sparcs for $350 plus HDDs, RAM, and power cables | 16:55 |
| NCommander | Amazing how cheap they become :-/ | 16:55 |
| NCommander | I plan to set one up as a pubic porter | 16:57 |
| jbailey | NCommander, Where are you? | 18:02 |
| NCommander | jbailey, Rochester, NY | 18:02 |
| NCommander | jbailey, you? | 18:02 |
| NCommander | So every SPARC CD is broken ... | 18:02 |
| jbailey | NCommander, Can you swing by Toronto at some point? | 18:03 |
| jbailey | I'll liberate my old ia64. | 18:03 |
| jbailey | It's sitting in a data centre there. | 18:03 |
| jbailey | I'm now in Montréal. | 18:03 |
| NCommander | jbailey, I could do it tonight | 18:03 |
| NCommander | :-) | 18:03 |
| jbailey | Lemme ping Andrew. | 18:03 |
| jbailey | He's not online at the moment. | 18:03 |
| NCommander | w00t, I got the SPARC netinstall image going | 18:03 |
| jbailey | When I see him on, I'll get him to get it out of his rack for you and ping you in this channel. | 18:03 |
| jbailey | He was supposed to give the ia64 some love but never did. | 18:04 |
| NCommander | jbailey, seriously? | 18:04 |
| jbailey | Yes. | 18:04 |
| NCommander | I dunno what to say | 18:04 |
| NCommander | jbailey, do you have an interest in ia64? | 18:04 |
| jbailey | I got it originally for Debian IA64 NPTL and Installer work. | 18:04 |
| jbailey | HP was kind enough to give it to me | 18:04 |
| NCommander | jbailey, I'm almost willing to bet money ia64's installer is hosed :-/ | 18:05 |
| jbailey | When I left FundSERV, I put it in the data centre at UofT. Eventually I arranged to give it away since I hadn't done anything with it and they wanted the space back. | 18:05 |
| jbailey | ia64 has a reasonable chance of not being, it's cared for actively in Debian. | 18:05 |
| NCommander | jbailey, the kernel in Ubuntu has not seen a lot of love | 18:05 |
| NCommander | No one with hardware | 18:05 |
| jbailey | So it'll face ports-wide issues, but aside from that should generally be a first class citizen. | 18:05 |
| NCommander | the installer on all ports are hosed, I can fix it if I had the machine | 18:05 |
| jbailey | IIRC, Ubuntu has an option for a pristine upstream kernel now, doesn't it? | 18:06 |
| NCommander | Not in the installer | 18:06 |
| jbailey | I think Ports should all use those by default. | 18:06 |
| jbailey | Right, but I'd twiddle that. | 18:06 |
| NCommander | The problem is the installer can't load the module | 18:06 |
| NCommander | because it changed the name | 18:06 |
| jbailey | It'd be the best way of getting care. | 18:06 |
| NCommander | (it tries to load ide-something but the module now something-ide) | 18:06 |
| NCommander | jbailey, what are the specs on that machine | 18:09 |
| NCommander | jbailey, and how much is that server worth? (I need to see if I need to declare it when crossing the US-Candian border) | 18:14 |
| jbailey | zx2600? | 18:19 |
| jbailey | No, that was the lower one. | 18:19 |
| jbailey | I don't remember anymore. | 18:19 |
| jbailey | Dual Itanium2 900mhz 10Gb RAM. Dual 30gb SCSI | 18:19 |
| jbailey | lamont, What was the zx6k version of that box called? | 18:20 |
| NCommander | That's fairly good hardware (more powerful than any of my SPARCs) | 18:21 |
| * NCommander wonders if ia64 has any users though anymore who would want to run Ubuntu on it | 18:21 | |
| jbailey | NCommander, I don't know that it ever did. | 18:23 |
| jbailey | Well, aside from me and LaMont | 18:23 |
| NCommander | jbailey, directhex was using it on a desktop for awhile | 18:23 |
| * NCommander just wants to make the ports of Ubuntu not suck :-/ | 18:23 | |
| NCommander | I'm still trying to find a release of Ubuntu that can work on SPARC for a fresh install | 18:23 |
| jbailey | Dapper should. | 18:24 |
| NCommander | I ran into the SILO - Illegal Instruction bug | 18:24 |
| NCommander | which also exists in edgy | 18:24 |
| * NCommander sees if his T1 is affected | 18:25 | |
| NCommander | The T1 won't boot. Period. | 18:27 |
| * NCommander is seeing if there is an OBP upgrade available | 18:32 | |
| NCommander | jbailey, are you going to be at UDS? | 18:43 |
| jbailey | NCommander, Nope. | 18:44 |
| NCommander | :-/ | 18:44 |
| NCommander | jbailey, a pity, I'd liketo have a meeting about ports | 18:44 |
| NCommander | (although if your in Montreal, your not far from me) | 18:44 |
| jbailey | Setup a VC or something like that. | 18:44 |
| jbailey | I can do googletalk easily. | 18:44 |
| * NCommander nods | 18:44 | |
| jbailey | I could probably figure out Skype if I had to. | 18:44 |
| NCommander | jbailey, beside ia64, what ports are you interested in seeing in a working status? | 18:45 |
| jbailey | Eh, I don't actually care at all anymore. | 18:53 |
| jbailey | If I did, I'd get my ia64 back myself and just fix it. | 18:53 |
| jbailey | I'd originally hoped that Ubuntu would be welcoming to non-primary architectures and grow a community of people interested in running recent stable versions of things. | 18:55 |
| jbailey | That was when I worked at Canonical and was on the distro team. | 18:55 |
| jbailey | But, it didn't happen. *shrug* | 18:55 |
| NCommander | jbailey, PowerPC is the only port that seems to have had any life outside of canonical | 19:06 |
| jbailey | That's not fair. LaMont had another job at one point. | 19:07 |
| lamont | jbailey: srsly. | 19:08 |
| lamont | and sparc did too | 19:08 |
| NCommander | let me rephrase | 19:12 |
| NCommander | PowerPC is the only port that seems to have managed to survive since Canonical stopped supporting it | 19:12 |
| NCommander | Unless I'm mistaken | 19:13 |
| NCommander | (which may be truth) | 19:13 |
| NCommander | *ture | 19:13 |
| NCommander | ^- jbailey and lamont | 19:13 |
| jbailey | lamont, True. | 19:13 |
| * NCommander didn't mean to offend lamont or jbailey :-/ | 19:13 | |
| jbailey | Hardly an office. | 19:15 |
| jbailey | I'm a lazy hippy, and LaMont went back to Canonical. | 19:15 |
| jbailey | offense, even. | 19:15 |
| lamont | NCommander: -ports isn't exactly anything where one is allowed to be offended... | 19:17 |
| * NCommander stares blankly at lamont | 19:18 | |
| NCommander | I suspect my caffeine levels are looking low | 19:18 |
| lamont | heh. | 19:19 |
| NCommander | Or the sounds from my SunFire is going into my head | 19:19 |
| lamont | NCommander: it's more one of jbailey and I both have thick skins, and that sometimes shows in our conversation, even in this channel | 19:20 |
| NCommander | lamont, ah | 19:20 |
| * NCommander is trying to remember if I met you last UDS or last sprint | 19:20 | |
| lamont | last UDS I made it to was boston | 19:20 |
| NCommander | ATM, I'm trying to find a CD for SPARC that is 1. bootable 2. installable | 19:20 |
| NCommander | So far Dapper-Fiesty, and Hardy-Jaunty fail | 19:20 |
| NCommander | I'm looking at downloading Warty ... | 19:21 |
| NCommander | gutsy is a bust too | 19:40 |
| lamont | heh. | 20:22 |
| lamont | I bet hoary or breezy works | 20:22 |
| lamont | pretty sure hoary or breezy was the first sparc release | 20:23 |
| lamont | I'd have to go read the announcement again | 20:23 |
| NCommander | Warty was | 20:26 |
| NCommander | I got dapper netinstall to start | 20:26 |
| NCommander | Looks like its semi-ok | 20:26 |
| NCommander | Kinda weird | 20:26 |
| NCommander | Dapper works | 20:26 |
| NCommander | Then everything up to Jaunty is a complete and total bust | 20:27 |
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