[16:21] lamont, so seemingly Ubuntu jaunty/sparc is semi-happy; I just managed to boot an installer CD [16:39] coolness [16:40] * lamont will pull even fresher CDs today, and go trash his hppa box tonight late [16:48] lamont, well, the sparc CD itself though is hosed [16:48] :-/ [16:49] Its suffering from no cd modules in the kernel (a bug we had in powerpc; two cents says it affects ALL port architectures) [16:49] * lamont adds netinst to his mirror tree [16:50] lamont, which port architectures do you have, HPPA, SPARC, Ia64? [16:52] yeah - I haz thouze. [16:52] lamont, I can't find cheap ia64s, although I now have more SPARC boxes then I know what to do with :-/ [16:53] * NCommander also just can't find used PA-RISCs at an acceptable price point [16:53] yeah - and sparc is the most problematic of the bunch for me [16:53] in terms of "need to find a serial console whatsit for it" [16:53] lamont, I have two, want one? [16:54] lamont, want one of mine, I have an Ultra 10, a Nextra X1 and T1 (although I think the X1's NIC is fried), and the hairdrier^W SunFire v120 [16:54] * lamont has an SB1000 or so [16:55] I got all my sparcs for $350 plus HDDs, RAM, and power cables [16:55] Amazing how cheap they become :-/ [16:57] I plan to set one up as a pubic porter [18:02] NCommander, Where are you? [18:02] jbailey, Rochester, NY [18:02] jbailey, you? [18:02] So every SPARC CD is broken ... [18:03] NCommander, Can you swing by Toronto at some point? [18:03] I'll liberate my old ia64. [18:03] It's sitting in a data centre there. [18:03] I'm now in Montréal. [18:03] jbailey, I could do it tonight [18:03] :-) [18:03] Lemme ping Andrew. [18:03] He's not online at the moment. [18:03] w00t, I got the SPARC netinstall image going [18:03] When I see him on, I'll get him to get it out of his rack for you and ping you in this channel. [18:04] He was supposed to give the ia64 some love but never did. [18:04] jbailey, seriously? [18:04] Yes. [18:04] I dunno what to say [18:04] jbailey, do you have an interest in ia64? [18:04] I got it originally for Debian IA64 NPTL and Installer work. [18:04] HP was kind enough to give it to me [18:05] jbailey, I'm almost willing to bet money ia64's installer is hosed :-/ [18:05] When I left FundSERV, I put it in the data centre at UofT. Eventually I arranged to give it away since I hadn't done anything with it and they wanted the space back. [18:05] ia64 has a reasonable chance of not being, it's cared for actively in Debian. [18:05] jbailey, the kernel in Ubuntu has not seen a lot of love [18:05] No one with hardware [18:05] So it'll face ports-wide issues, but aside from that should generally be a first class citizen. [18:05] the installer on all ports are hosed, I can fix it if I had the machine [18:06] IIRC, Ubuntu has an option for a pristine upstream kernel now, doesn't it? [18:06] Not in the installer [18:06] I think Ports should all use those by default. [18:06] Right, but I'd twiddle that. [18:06] The problem is the installer can't load the module [18:06] because it changed the name [18:06] It'd be the best way of getting care. [18:06] (it tries to load ide-something but the module now something-ide) [18:09] jbailey, what are the specs on that machine [18:14] jbailey, and how much is that server worth? (I need to see if I need to declare it when crossing the US-Candian border) [18:19] zx2600? [18:19] No, that was the lower one. [18:19] I don't remember anymore. [18:19] Dual Itanium2 900mhz 10Gb RAM. Dual 30gb SCSI [18:20] lamont, What was the zx6k version of that box called? [18:21] That's fairly good hardware (more powerful than any of my SPARCs) [18:21] * NCommander wonders if ia64 has any users though anymore who would want to run Ubuntu on it [18:23] NCommander, I don't know that it ever did. [18:23] Well, aside from me and LaMont [18:23] jbailey, directhex was using it on a desktop for awhile [18:23] * NCommander just wants to make the ports of Ubuntu not suck :-/ [18:23] I'm still trying to find a release of Ubuntu that can work on SPARC for a fresh install [18:24] Dapper should. [18:24] I ran into the SILO - Illegal Instruction bug [18:24] which also exists in edgy [18:25] * NCommander sees if his T1 is affected [18:27] The T1 won't boot. Period. [18:32] * NCommander is seeing if there is an OBP upgrade available [18:43] jbailey, are you going to be at UDS? [18:44] NCommander, Nope. [18:44] :-/ [18:44] jbailey, a pity, I'd liketo have a meeting about ports [18:44] (although if your in Montreal, your not far from me) [18:44] Setup a VC or something like that. [18:44] I can do googletalk easily. [18:44] * NCommander nods [18:44] I could probably figure out Skype if I had to. [18:45] jbailey, beside ia64, what ports are you interested in seeing in a working status? [18:53] Eh, I don't actually care at all anymore. [18:53] If I did, I'd get my ia64 back myself and just fix it. [18:55] I'd originally hoped that Ubuntu would be welcoming to non-primary architectures and grow a community of people interested in running recent stable versions of things. [18:55] That was when I worked at Canonical and was on the distro team. [18:55] But, it didn't happen. *shrug* [19:06] jbailey, PowerPC is the only port that seems to have had any life outside of canonical [19:07] That's not fair. LaMont had another job at one point. [19:08] jbailey: srsly. [19:08] and sparc did too [19:12] let me rephrase [19:12] PowerPC is the only port that seems to have managed to survive since Canonical stopped supporting it [19:13] Unless I'm mistaken [19:13] (which may be truth) [19:13] *ture [19:13] ^- jbailey and lamont [19:13] lamont, True. [19:13] * NCommander didn't mean to offend lamont or jbailey :-/ [19:15] Hardly an office. [19:15] I'm a lazy hippy, and LaMont went back to Canonical. [19:15] offense, even. [19:17] NCommander: -ports isn't exactly anything where one is allowed to be offended... [19:18] * NCommander stares blankly at lamont [19:18] I suspect my caffeine levels are looking low [19:19] heh. [19:19] Or the sounds from my SunFire is going into my head [19:20] NCommander: it's more one of jbailey and I both have thick skins, and that sometimes shows in our conversation, even in this channel [19:20] lamont, ah [19:20] * NCommander is trying to remember if I met you last UDS or last sprint [19:20] last UDS I made it to was boston [19:20] ATM, I'm trying to find a CD for SPARC that is 1. bootable 2. installable [19:20] So far Dapper-Fiesty, and Hardy-Jaunty fail [19:21] I'm looking at downloading Warty ... [19:40] gutsy is a bust too [20:22] heh. [20:22] I bet hoary or breezy works [20:23] pretty sure hoary or breezy was the first sparc release [20:23] I'd have to go read the announcement again [20:26] Warty was [20:26] I got dapper netinstall to start [20:26] Looks like its semi-ok [20:26] Kinda weird [20:26] Dapper works [20:27] Then everything up to Jaunty is a complete and total bust