[16:21] <NCommander> lamont, so seemingly Ubuntu jaunty/sparc is semi-happy; I just managed to boot an installer CD
[16:39] <lamont> coolness
[16:40]  * lamont will pull even fresher CDs today, and go trash his hppa box tonight late
[16:48] <NCommander> lamont, well, the sparc CD itself though is hosed
[16:48] <NCommander> :-/
[16:49] <NCommander> Its suffering from no cd modules in the kernel (a bug we had in powerpc; two cents says it affects ALL port architectures)
[16:49]  * lamont adds netinst to his mirror tree
[16:50] <NCommander> lamont, which port architectures do you have, HPPA, SPARC, Ia64?
[16:52] <lamont> yeah - I haz thouze.
[16:52] <NCommander> lamont, I can't find cheap ia64s, although I now have more SPARC boxes then I know what to do with :-/
[16:53]  * NCommander also just can't find used PA-RISCs at an acceptable price point
[16:53] <lamont> yeah - and sparc is the most problematic of the bunch for me
[16:53] <lamont> in terms of "need to find a serial console whatsit for it"
[16:53] <NCommander> lamont, I have two, want one?
[16:54] <NCommander> lamont, want one of mine, I have an Ultra 10, a Nextra X1 and T1 (although I think the X1's NIC is fried), and the hairdrier^W SunFire v120
[16:54]  * lamont has an SB1000 or so
[16:55] <NCommander> I got all my sparcs for $350 plus HDDs, RAM, and power cables
[16:55] <NCommander> Amazing how cheap they become :-/
[16:57] <NCommander> I plan to set one up as a pubic porter
[18:02] <jbailey> NCommander, Where are you?
[18:02] <NCommander> jbailey, Rochester, NY
[18:02] <NCommander> jbailey, you?
[18:02] <NCommander> So every SPARC CD is broken ...
[18:03] <jbailey> NCommander, Can you swing by Toronto at some point?
[18:03] <jbailey> I'll liberate my old ia64.
[18:03] <jbailey> It's sitting in a data centre there.
[18:03] <jbailey> I'm now in Montréal.
[18:03] <NCommander> jbailey, I could do it tonight
[18:03] <NCommander> :-)
[18:03] <jbailey> Lemme ping Andrew.
[18:03] <jbailey> He's not online at the moment.
[18:03] <NCommander> w00t, I got the SPARC netinstall image going
[18:03] <jbailey> When I see him on, I'll get him to get it out of his rack for you and ping you in this channel.
[18:04] <jbailey> He was supposed to give the ia64 some love but never did.
[18:04] <NCommander> jbailey, seriously?
[18:04] <jbailey> Yes.
[18:04] <NCommander> I dunno what to say
[18:04] <NCommander> jbailey, do you have an interest in ia64?
[18:04] <jbailey> I got it originally for Debian IA64 NPTL and Installer work.
[18:04] <jbailey> HP was kind enough to give it to me
[18:05] <NCommander> jbailey, I'm almost willing to bet money ia64's installer is hosed :-/
[18:05] <jbailey> When I left FundSERV, I put it in the data centre at UofT.  Eventually I arranged to give it away since I hadn't done anything with it and they wanted the space back.
[18:05] <jbailey> ia64 has a reasonable chance of not being, it's cared for actively in Debian.
[18:05] <NCommander> jbailey, the kernel in Ubuntu has not seen a lot of love
[18:05] <NCommander> No one with hardware
[18:05] <jbailey> So it'll face ports-wide issues, but aside from that should generally be a first class citizen.
[18:05] <NCommander> the installer on all ports are hosed, I can fix it if I had the machine
[18:06] <jbailey> IIRC, Ubuntu has an option for a pristine upstream kernel now, doesn't it?
[18:06] <NCommander> Not in the installer
[18:06] <jbailey> I think Ports should all use those by default.
[18:06] <jbailey> Right, but I'd twiddle that.
[18:06] <NCommander> The problem is the installer can't load the module
[18:06] <NCommander> because it changed the name 
[18:06] <jbailey> It'd be the best way of getting care.
[18:06] <NCommander> (it tries to load ide-something but the module now something-ide)
[18:09] <NCommander> jbailey, what are the specs on that machine
[18:14] <NCommander> jbailey, and how much is that server worth? (I need to see if I need to declare it when crossing the US-Candian border)
[18:19] <jbailey> zx2600?
[18:19] <jbailey> No, that was the lower one.
[18:19] <jbailey> I don't remember anymore.
[18:19] <jbailey> Dual Itanium2 900mhz 10Gb RAM.  Dual 30gb SCSI
[18:20] <jbailey> lamont, What was the zx6k version of that box called?
[18:21] <NCommander> That's fairly good hardware (more powerful than any of my SPARCs)
[18:21]  * NCommander wonders if ia64 has any users though anymore who would want to run Ubuntu on it
[18:23] <jbailey> NCommander, I don't know that it ever did.
[18:23] <jbailey> Well, aside from me and LaMont
[18:23] <NCommander> jbailey, directhex was using it on a desktop for awhile
[18:23]  * NCommander just wants to make the ports of Ubuntu not suck :-/
[18:23] <NCommander> I'm still trying to find a release of Ubuntu that can work on SPARC for a fresh install
[18:24] <jbailey> Dapper should.
[18:24] <NCommander> I ran into the SILO - Illegal Instruction bug
[18:24] <NCommander> which also exists in edgy
[18:25]  * NCommander sees if his T1 is affected
[18:27] <NCommander> The T1 won't boot. Period.
[18:32]  * NCommander is seeing if there is an OBP upgrade available
[18:43] <NCommander> jbailey, are you going to be at UDS?
[18:44] <jbailey> NCommander, Nope.
[18:44] <NCommander> :-/
[18:44] <NCommander> jbailey, a pity, I'd liketo have a meeting about ports
[18:44] <NCommander> (although if your in Montreal, your not far from me)
[18:44] <jbailey> Setup a VC or something like that.
[18:44] <jbailey> I can do googletalk easily.
[18:44]  * NCommander nods
[18:44] <jbailey> I could probably figure out Skype if I had to.
[18:45] <NCommander> jbailey, beside ia64, what ports are you interested in seeing in a working status?
[18:53] <jbailey> Eh, I don't actually care at all anymore.
[18:53] <jbailey> If I did, I'd get my ia64 back myself and just fix it.
[18:55] <jbailey> I'd originally hoped that Ubuntu would be welcoming to non-primary architectures and grow a community of people interested in running recent stable versions of things.
[18:55] <jbailey> That was when I worked at Canonical and was on the distro team.
[18:55] <jbailey> But, it didn't happen.  *shrug*
[19:06] <NCommander> jbailey, PowerPC is the only port that seems to have had any life outside of canonical
[19:07] <jbailey> That's not fair.  LaMont had another job at one point.
[19:08] <lamont> jbailey: srsly.
[19:08] <lamont> and sparc did too
[19:12] <NCommander> let me rephrase
[19:12] <NCommander> PowerPC is the only port that seems to have managed to survive since Canonical stopped supporting it
[19:13] <NCommander> Unless I'm mistaken
[19:13] <NCommander> (which may be truth)
[19:13] <NCommander> *ture
[19:13] <NCommander> ^- jbailey and lamont 
[19:13] <jbailey> lamont, True.
[19:13]  * NCommander didn't mean to offend lamont or jbailey :-/
[19:15] <jbailey> Hardly an office.
[19:15] <jbailey> I'm a lazy hippy, and LaMont went back to Canonical.
[19:15] <jbailey> offense, even.
[19:17] <lamont> NCommander: -ports isn't exactly anything where one is allowed to be offended...
[19:18]  * NCommander stares blankly at lamont
[19:18] <NCommander> I suspect my caffeine levels are looking low
[19:19] <lamont> heh.
[19:19] <NCommander> Or the sounds from my SunFire is going into my head
[19:20] <lamont> NCommander: it's more one of jbailey and I both have thick skins, and that sometimes shows in our conversation, even in this channel
[19:20] <NCommander> lamont, ah
[19:20]  * NCommander is trying to remember if I met you last UDS or last sprint
[19:20] <lamont> last UDS I made it to was boston
[19:20] <NCommander> ATM, I'm trying to find a CD for SPARC that is 1. bootable 2. installable
[19:20] <NCommander> So far Dapper-Fiesty, and Hardy-Jaunty fail
[19:21] <NCommander> I'm looking at downloading Warty ...
[19:40] <NCommander> gutsy is a bust too
[20:22] <lamont> heh.
[20:22] <lamont> I bet hoary or breezy works
[20:23] <lamont> pretty sure hoary or breezy was the first sparc release
[20:23] <lamont> I'd have to go read the announcement again
[20:26] <NCommander> Warty was
[20:26] <NCommander> I got dapper netinstall to start
[20:26] <NCommander> Looks like its semi-ok
[20:26] <NCommander> Kinda weird
[20:26] <NCommander> Dapper works
[20:27] <NCommander> Then everything up to Jaunty is a complete and total bust