=== dwidmann_ is now known as dwidmann === agent is now known as Guest76405 [00:08] hi, i have a problem with the instalation of debian, can somebody help me? [00:10] Guest76405 join #debian [00:10] oh sorry wrong channel :-) [00:11] np [00:16] BADOS [00:17] KU [00:17] au [00:17] v [00:17] kubuntu the best [00:19] can I skin firefox to anything under the addons no right I have to find a linux compatible skin or no? [00:20] any skin should work [00:20] ok === yml_ is now known as yml === ubuntu_ is now known as Aesran [00:33] hi all, microphone on my laptop is not working, any idea where i should look for solutions? [00:34] Does compositing benefit from 3D acceleration? [00:35] i played with kmix channels and googled for help, but no luck (i have dell precision m4400) [00:35] Any specialists on configuring dual monitors here? Anyone know of a gui similar to DisplayConfigGTK - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DisplayConfigGTK - for KDE? [00:36] Oceanwatcher_: was System Settings > Display of any use? === joe__ is now known as AlphaWaves [00:41] rmrfslash: No. I can set different resolutions, but when I hit Apply, the resolution change back to the same. There is no way to tell the card to show two monitors instead of one mirrored. [00:41] can someone tell me how to fix my screen resolution? [00:41] god_: Settings>Display [00:41] Oceanwatcher_: nvidia or ATI? [00:42] ATI Radeon 9550, opensource drivers [00:42] me too. [00:42] well Radeon mobility hd 3670 [00:42] no man, it only lets me go 800x600 or something like that but i know my card will push 1280x700 [00:42] nvidia [00:42] sorry thought that was to me [00:43] god__: I assume proprietary drivers? If yes, then try using the installed NVIDIA config tool [00:43] whats the command? [00:43] i might have tried that already [00:44] god__: I forget. There should be an icon somewhere in Kicker > System maybe? [00:44] god__: Kickoff.... whatever [00:44] god__: try nvidia tab tab [00:44] if its the thing that let has something to do with enbling the device, every time i do that my system wont boot [00:45] it gets stcuk at a black screen [00:45] poo on proprietary [00:45] what do you mean nvidia tab tab [00:46] Oceanwatcher_: you could try editing xorg.conf manually :-/ [00:46] Oceanwatcher_: that's the best I can come up w/ [00:46] lol - Yeah. Have spent this whole day doing it. [00:47] Oceanwatcher_: fun stuff huh? [00:47] Got a tip about a legacy driver from ATI that might work. Going to download and test. [00:47] so what about this nvidia tabbing? [00:47] Not fun to edit xorg.conf manually. [00:48] god__: go to the command line and type in nvidia then hit tab [00:48] god__: should reveal something like nvidia-settings [00:48] god__: that might be the program (run it w/ sudo) [00:48] either nothing happens or terminal wants to tell me all of its commands [00:48] if i tab twice [00:49] god__: try just typing sudo nvidia-settings [00:49] command not found [00:49] r u using the proprietary driver? [00:50] or the reverse engineered open source one (blech!) [00:50] no thats bad juju, when i do that it tells me to reboot, then i get stuck at a black screen and have to reinstall os [00:50] ive reinstalled 4 times and would rather avoid doing it again [00:50] I see === agent is now known as Guest41223 [00:51] im not sure what it is, i know it has something to do with the nvidia card though [00:51] well.... like Oceanwater, you can try editing xorg.conf manually :-/ [00:51] I know that X11 supports it but im not sure it will run in ubuntu se [00:51] I cant, when i go into conf file theres nothing in it about resolution [00:51] I can post the file if you wish [00:51] You add stuff to it [00:52] ahh [00:52] make sure you back up the original one though [00:52] how do i run the back up if i screw the other one [00:52] better yet, can reinstitute the old from root terminal in safe mode if i mess it up? [00:52] You just copy the exisitng xorg.conf to your home directory or copy it to say /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak [00:53] then go crazy w/ the one that's there [00:53] just in case? [00:53] i found some blogs about this, but i didnt know what i was doing so i came to ask first [00:53] actrually i could have posted it for ocean but hes =gone [00:53] if you reboot and your display doesn't come up properly (cuz you screwed up xorg.conf), you should be dropped to a command prompt [00:54] check this out and tell me if this is what you mean [00:54] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=975058 [00:54] See the Screen section [00:54] yeah [00:55] im guessing the red text is what i add or edit right? [00:55] Try adding this (hang on) [00:57] you there? [00:58] yeah [00:58] http://pastebin.com/m301d09a3 [00:58] i was waiting on you, thought you had a lot to type [00:58] sorry my inet got all hung up [00:58] its kool, what part of that should i add? [00:58] note where I put #BEGIN and #END [00:59] oh, yeah i see that now [00:59] You showed me an ubuntuforum [00:59] I have no defualt depth, should i add that as well? [00:59] yeah, i just wanted to know if we were on the same page [01:01] when im done with this, will i just write out? [01:06] Man, Cox is killing me. [01:08] hey thanks for that fix rmrf, that worked perfectly [01:09] cool [01:09] now you're at a blazing 1024x768 [01:09] :) [01:09] you forgot to mention to mention that I needed to restart. I forgot to remember that that would need doing [01:09] nope, im 1280... [01:09] oh, yeah.... you need to restart ;) [01:10] well thanks again. im off to confuse myself some more [01:10] i loathe being newb [01:10] it happens [01:10] cya [01:12] editing xorg.conf is one of the most tedious things to do... and the most unforgiving if you make a mistake or typo. The next best is making a typo in /etc/sudoers [01:14] anyone know why file sharing doesn't work in folder properties in Dolphin/Konq? === jaro_008 is now known as jaro_009 [01:24] meh [01:37] how can I get kuickshow to turn tall photos up automatically? === CoJaBo-A1tec is now known as CoJaBo-Aztec [01:56] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX7Z4tTx67s [01:56] http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/21/proposed-heavy-restrictions-internet-freedoms/ [01:57] is Kubuntu in freeze now or is there gonna be a suprise in the next day or two? [01:59] hmm, wonder how long till freepress/savetheinternet/others react to that one [02:01] rmrfslash_: Tried the driver from ATI. After downloading 80 MB I realised it is for Xfree86... Not very fun, this... [02:01] what is defrag software for kubuntu [02:03] and last question: should the release client update to the final release automatically? [02:03] dwidmann:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_T-DOishkk [02:03] oh and another one :P do you guys prefer kde or gnome [02:04] *coughcough* Like you're not going to get a biased answer in this channel [02:04] figured it being 'kubuntu' which is kde [02:05] Anyoseyo: there is no defrag, ext3 does not suck like FAT or NTFS [02:05] Anyoseyo: actually the smart question would between kde3 and kde4 [02:05] major :) [02:05] i'm defragging this windows hd on a old comp [02:06] my mom used it : 65% fragged [02:06] and geek_ what is the answer [02:06] Anyoseyo: its OT, but i'd give JKdefrag a shot [02:06] Anyoseyo: i miss certain aspects of kde3 - the fact that it was mature and better integrated [02:06] already using smart defrag :P [02:06] ask me in a year though, and i'll tell you KDE4, no questions asked [02:07] why is jkdefrag better :P [02:07] Anyoseyo: its lightweight, portable, and gives you a load of control [02:07] and.. [02:07] its open source ;p [02:08] i'll use it when i defrag my external [02:08] * geek_ uses windows XP and kubuntu on the desktop. mostly kubuntu ;) other than gaming [02:09] you'll be like me :P [02:10] Anyoseyo: ideally though i wish i had another box here so i can run both at once ;p [02:10] suppose [02:10] Is there a way to get kuickshow to flip tall photos up automatically? [02:10] * tsimpson shouts out "Virtualization" [02:11] geek i've got XP on here, but it's been months since I used it [02:11] When I launch Maya I get the error "Segmentation Fault" and it fails to load. Any ideas? It was running yesterday. [02:11] tsimpson: i do that. I'd rather have independant systems tho ;) [02:11] oh, and a SGI video converter cable ;p === don is now known as Guest39811 [02:14] so... [02:14] i'll try it out [02:15] what windows applicatoins will i miss geek_ [02:16] Anyoseyo: for me, paint.net. otherwise, i'm amazingly platform agnostic [02:18] i, under gnome ssh-askpass pops up whenever needed even from inside gnome-terminal. But under kde ssh-askpass only pops up when there is no terminal (as the ssh-add docs say). How do I make KDE more like gnome [02:19] in that aspecgt [02:21] When I launch Maya I get the error "Segmentation Fault" and it fails to load. Any ideas? It was running yesterday. [02:22] *nix Maya version? [02:23] Maya 2008 Unlimited x64 [02:24] steevz@linux:~$ maya [02:24] Segmentation fault [02:24] I find it strange that it was working yesterday and I haven't touched anything. [02:25] yay === Teh_Real_DM is now known as Annyoseyo [02:25] "segmentation fault" usually indicates bad ram [02:26] genii: is that in general? or do you mean in maya? [02:27] nassrat: In general [02:27] it could be bad code [02:28] steevz: I'd recommend to run memtest86 or similar on your ram and see if some may be going bad [02:28] anybody here know anythin about SSH_ASKPASS? [02:30] Could it be because I have 7gb of ram? [02:30] instead of like 8? [02:31] steevz: i think you should always use the same types of ram [02:31] atleast in pairs [02:31] They're all DDR2 OCZ 6400 3 are 2gb 1 is 1gb [02:32] eh [02:32] the 1gb could be giving you a problem [02:32] Maybe.. Well, I'll try popping it out. [02:32] Maya was starting yesterday with the 7gb.. =\ [02:32] oh well, I'll try and let you guys know. [02:32] Thanks. [02:43] anybody here know anythin about SSH_ASKPASS? [02:44] Hm.. Maya still Segmentation Fault without the 1gb stick of ram. [02:46] steevz: try running memtest from a live cd for atleast 1 pass and see if there are any errors [02:46] if there ar [02:47] then put each stick in by itself, and see which one is busted [02:47] having trouble with nvidia drivers. every time i try to enable the proprietary ones, my startup screen goes black after reboot... [02:47] it could be combinations of them that dont work [02:47] as well [02:48] steevz: to tell you the truth, i dont think its your ram, i think its your settings [02:48] there is something that caused a bug in maya and is segfaulting [02:48] probably has nothing to do with kubuntu, so dont know why you here though === n3ck is now known as n3ck_Rafa [03:00] how'x the support for ati x700 in 9.04? [03:02] bjrn: one really good way to find out that one ... to try it and see if it works for you, because [03:02] !worksforme [03:02] Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/ === geek_ is now known as faileas [03:04] ahhh, like trying to drink gasoline ... cute. get the point [03:07] can someone tell me where i can drivers for an nvidia gfx card? [04:33] !nvidia | god__ [04:33] god__: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [04:46] Is there a way to fix the GUI controls curruptoin in Firefox? === richard is now known as Guest82267 === MinusSeven281 is now known as MinusSeven [05:02] woo [05:03] exciting [05:03] kubuntu is installing :) === Deathmath is now known as Anyoseyo [05:03] >.. [05:16] installing a driver >.> [05:21] !kde [05:21] KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde4 === maximo is now known as Nasra [05:23] hi, just installed KDE Desktop....do I have do any twicking at all? [05:25] !KDE4 [05:25] KDE 4.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.2 - Support in #kubuntu === johnsheng is now known as johnsheng_ === johnsheng_ is now known as johnsheng__ [05:31] where am i? [05:31] <|dthacker|> you are here [05:32] you're in cyberspace, planet linux... the ubuntu region === jpsnl1 is now known as JP-sNL [05:32] do you speak chinese? [05:33] 这里说中文的吗？ [05:34] only heavily under the influence of opium... but i never get the stuff i order at the .cn take-away though [05:35] <|dthacker|> !ch [05:35] Sorry, I don't know anything about ch [05:35] <|dthacker|> neither do I, ubottu, neither do I [05:36] !chinese [05:36] !cn [05:36] For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw 或者 #ubuntu-hk [05:36] oh,thank you [05:37] |dthacker|: seems ubottu knew more about it than you thought ;) [05:38] * |dthacker| bows to dwidmann [05:38] !brain |dthacker| [05:38] dthacker|: Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [05:45] guten Morgen [05:46] !politeness [05:46] Sorry, I don't know anything about politeness === Deathmath is now known as Anyoseyo [05:51] dang [05:51] didn't work [05:51] anyone have advice with bios? [05:51] cause i installed the newest release candidate with unetbootin to my external hd [05:52] and then i thought i changed the bios, but it just booted w/ windows [05:54] 266 useful people :D [05:58] what do you guys do to make firefox look good on Kubuntu 9.04 ? === tanjir__ is now known as tanjir === johnsheng__ is now known as johnsheng [06:22] I just installed kubuntu on my HP G60 123CL. Everything seems to be going well, there are a few devices i havent checked into yet. For some reason however, KDE or what ever the GUI is called seems to be a bit slow and jerky. Anyone have any ideas? [06:25] god__: which version of kubuntu? [06:25] 8.10 intreped ibex i think [06:26] I dl/ed the iso about 2hours ago from official providers, when I do checks in terminal it says 8.10 [06:28] hmm [06:28] Well, it might be KDE 4 being a pain [06:28] try updating first to see if whatever causes it is patched [06:29] yeah ive done that, from what ive gathered its just the kde. My gfx has the correct drivers. That was a beast. Is it possible to turn off some of the desktop effects? [06:29] yes. [06:29] how would i go about that? [06:30] system settings->desktop->desktop effects [06:30] thx Ill give that a try and get back to you all [06:31] !drinking beer which made me beer alcoholic [06:31] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [06:31] wich would be better for this issue a bilinier filter or tri? [06:32] god__: experiment and see [06:32] Im very aqfraid to experiment with this. Its my firt boot of a linux machine ever [06:32] Im rather nervous right now [06:33] you should be able to change it without it messing anything up, it'll do the familiar "click okay within 30 seconds if this setting seems ok" deal too, I think. [06:33] wow the trilinear seems to work well. I didnt have to turn off efects [06:34] thanks again. I know this one was an easy fix [06:34] but I appreciate anyhow [06:34] god__: easy fixes are great though [06:35] one more question. Why are the religous distros of ubuntu no longer supported? [06:35] LOL As long as no one supports the wal-mart distro i think i can agree with the religous deal [06:36] well thanks again guys/gals. You all have a goog evening [06:36] wal-mart distro o.O [06:36] If that exists that's just FUNNY. [06:37] (seeing as Wal-Mart corporate wide is pretty Microsoft-centric) [06:42] ok back again with another KDE Q. Can I downgrade from KDE 4 to KDE 3? [06:43] god__: which version of Ubuntu? Kubuntu 9.04 will have a semi-official KDE3 remix [06:44] god__: I don't know if that will conflict at all with the KDE4 packages, but it might. [06:44] got 8.10 [06:44] god__: you're less unlucky than you think, 9.04 should be available before the end of the month [06:45] and if it isn't, they'll have to call it 9.05 :P [06:46] 04 = April [06:46] I get it, thats kool [06:46] what do you know back track 4? if anything? [06:47] hm? [06:48] As per downgrading while on 8.10 .. I don't think there are even offial-ish packages of KDE3 for 8.10, if there are any at all. [06:48] just wanted to see if anyone else knew anything. Im not too sure of the rules for this room so i wont post a link here, but you can google it [06:48] And downgrading can be kind of risky ... [06:48] I just deal with the lag. Its better than dealing with vista [06:49] Messes things up sometimes [06:49] what lag? [06:49] umm in the graphics there this weird lag [06:49] like when i change between windows [06:49] god__: no doubt introduced by desktopeffects [06:50] its only the graphics though, no aps or other devices seem to be affected. at least horribly [06:50] god__: desktop effects doesn't get along well with all cards ... probably for various reasons [06:51] Word has it (for example) NVidia's 2D is crap (though it's 3D is good) [06:51] lol its funny you should mention Nvidia [06:52] Im on the hp g60 and its got mostly amd and nvidia stuff [06:52] god__: only thing that matters here is the VGA [06:52] god__: (funny because ATI is AMD, if you know what I mean) [06:53] I know you're right about ATIvsAMD but I just now put that together [06:54] I have a fealing that im going to have trouble with my dvd burner's drivers. You wouldn't happen to know where I could them? [06:54] find* [06:54] DVD burning should be fine ... [06:55] how bout my wireless? [06:55] ndiswrapper for that? [06:55] Wireless is hit & miss [06:55] thats what Ive read so far [06:55] !wireless | god__ [06:55] god__: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs === jayhunold is now known as jhunold_ === jhunold_ is now known as jhunold === jhunold is now known as jhunold_ [06:59] test [06:59] respond to this if you see it, im testing my wifi [06:59] yo [06:59] respond to this if you see it, im testing my network [06:59] yo for the wifi or yo for the network? [06:59] Sure [07:00] dude no thats confusing, did you two requests for response or only one? [07:00] It was intent on being confusing, and apparently I've responded :P [07:00] lol [07:00] roflcopters to that [07:00] I just dont know where to land [07:02] how do I get flash with firefox? I have install ed flashplugin-nonfree and it works OK with konqueror [07:03] how did you get firefox? through adept downloader thing? [07:03] I untarred a release.. [07:03] where did you find it? at mozilla? [07:04] sry to ask so many Qs, this is my time in kubuntu, well in linux for that matter [07:04] first time* [07:05] god__: http://images.despair.com/products/demotivators/delusions.jpg [07:05] (just kidding, for the record) [07:05] I like jokes [07:05] god__, yup.. 3.0.9 off the firefox site [07:06] how r u guys directing text to me in red? [07:06] god__: we prefix everything we say with your nick. [07:06] see also: [07:06] !tab [07:06] You can use for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [07:06] dwidmann: test [07:06] nifty [07:07] man linux is soo much fun, and im such a nerd [07:07] dude I love demotivator, thats gr8 [07:10] hehehe [07:27] I just got firefox and flashplayer installers in tar format. How do I install them? [07:37] god__ : i think it would be easier if u installing software via terminal === petsounds is now known as Bob_Dylan [07:58] ive tried installing flash plugin for firefox in kubuntu 8.10. It doesnt seem to work. Any suggestions? [08:08] !flash [08:08] To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash [08:10] if it's 64bit you're having an issue with, might try installing the 64bit version of flash === kron is now known as Nugrul [08:23] ... [08:32] god__: run "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree; mkdir -p ~/.mozilla/plugins; cp `which libflashplayer.so` ~/.mozilla/plugins" and restart firefox === Heliwr_ is now known as Heliwr [08:45] hi! [08:46] how can l edit /etc/apt/sources.list ??? help [08:47] i have Bug 175540: Adept crashes with SIGABRT with invalid sources.list. Adept crashes with SIGABRT with invalid sources... [08:50] hello... === _MinusSeven is now known as MinusSeven === kevin_ is now known as kdomn [09:01] Hi, im having problems getting my parallel port working, is there somebody that could help me or direct me somewhere helpfull? === k4v is now known as m4v === ROSHA is now known as RoozbehOnline === panthy is now known as testingleresting [09:46] Hi! Does anybody scan to pdf with xsane? [09:47] the thing is that the size of pdf-files, which i get from xsane are too large! === Heliwr_ is now known as Heliwr [10:02] what's the best way to get kubuntu? [10:02] is it a torrent? if so name of torrent server? [10:03] torrent downloader [10:06] chalcedony: that works, another way is download the iso via http or ftp ... go to http://www.kubuntu.org and click on download ... it should show you all the ways of getting Kubuntu [10:08] !torrents [10:08] Kubuntu Hardy Heron (8.04) torrents can be obtained at http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/8.04/release/ (KDE 3.5.9) or http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/8.04/release/ (KDE 4.0.3) [10:08] !torrent [10:08] Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P [10:08] chalcedony: i'd recommend torrents, it allows you to upload to new users, has good error checking and is pausable === notbbt is now known as bbt === kbuntu-533 is now known as nasda === nasda is now known as weqweqwee === stone is now known as lecta-fills [10:46] using Gparted I can see "only" 2 Partition ... the first about 74 Gb and another unallocated about 7 Mb ... i suppose there're no ghost partition.. [10:46] it's correct to say that [10:46] ?? [10:47] altrortla: don't think so [10:48] ghost partition for preinstalled S.O. may be in 7Mb? [10:48] it's an allocated space [10:50] The problem is that i want to see if there's ghost partition on my hard Disk... [10:50] altrortla: when windows installs it keeps 7MB free [10:50] and 'im trying to use Gparted to see it [10:50] it probably uses it as a kind of swap space during install [10:51] Gparted CAN see ghost partition? [10:51] gparted can see it if it's a partition [10:53] so it's strange that I have a recover CD without Ghost partition.. [10:58] anyone home? [10:59] guess not ¬¬ [10:59] none [10:59] :) [11:00] lol? [11:00] sup? [11:00] im not hungry [11:01] 305 users and silence ? === javier__ is now known as Helio-2000 [11:01] dum di dum.... === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde [11:15] !how to drink beer [11:15] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [11:15] !beer [11:15] Beer is always appreciated. [11:16] donno how to ;) [11:20] NO GLOOMY FACES! [11:20] SMILE! [11:22] :D:D:D:D:D:D [11:25] do it again :) [11:26] say pshhh and smile [11:32] huh? [11:35] does kontact autostart for somebody here? here and on another laptop it tells me that it's already started and i have to start it manualy [11:38] asraniel: ln -s `which kontact` ~/.kde/Autostart/startkontact [11:39] ActionParsnip: that would add it to the autostart folder, no? i actually have that problem on session restore [11:40] hi [11:40] asraniel: yeah, the autostart folder is to help autostart stuff [11:40] !startup [11:40] To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot [11:40] !bum [11:40] Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto [11:41] on my first boot kubuntu tried to figure out my language settings and restricted drivers... [11:41] ActionParsnip: yes sure, but i have the option that restores my last session. now in my last session i always have kontact open. but when restoring the session kontact tells me that it already runs, and i have to exit it and start it manualy (works for all other apps) [11:41] how do i bring those back? [11:42] millun: i think you can still install the language over the language thing in system settings. there is a button for the system language or so [11:43] asraniel: hmm [11:43] ActionParsnip: appart from that kubuntu works great, but this is really anoying, and i never had it before (and i can reproduce it on my and my girlfriends computer) [11:43] ok [11:44] and those restricted drivers? [11:44] asraniel: you could have the app close as part of your logoff script [11:44] millun: in the menu you have System/Hardware driver [11:44] asraniel: i'd log a bug that the app wont persist in the saved profile thingy [11:45] millun: the real name is something with jockey-kde [11:46] i've tried clicking "Activate" but nothing would happen [11:46] ActionParsnip: i summited a bug, with one other person confirming. but no dev or so, so i'm gettin nervous that this will never be fixed. i mean, i can't be the only one that always has a kontact running [11:47]