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| rhpot1991 | quick question guys, I'm looking to upgrade my EEE1000 to Jaunty, and hopefully switch to a lpia kernel in the process, I prefer the full desktop as opposed to NBR. What is the best way for me to go about this, the lpia alternate installer cd? | 14:14 |
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| persia | rhpot1991, probably, although I'd recommend i386 over lpia. | 14:27 |
| rhpot1991 | persia: care to discuss why? | 14:27 |
| persia | Sure. | 14:28 |
| persia | Firstly, the lpia kernels didn't get quite as much testing, and some significant regressions from the merge into the main kernel tree were reported quite late in the cycle. | 14:28 |
| persia | Contrariwise, the i386 kernel got the most testing of any variety. | 14:28 |
| persia | So I would expect the i386 kernel to be more robust. | 14:29 |
| rhpot1991 | hmmm thats unfortunate, I heard good things about running lpia on netbooks from someone who works for dell | 14:29 |
| persia | And last I looked, both kernels were i586+, so there oughtn't be significant i686 optimisation in the lpia kernel. | 14:29 |
| persia | Well, there's a bit of an improvement, sometimes. | 14:30 |
| persia | At one point, lpia was configured to be i686, so you saw the ~5% improvement you'd expect over the generic kernel. | 14:30 |
| persia | And at one point, some of the compilations were i686 optimised as well, which gave a bit more of an improvement. | 14:31 |
| rhpot1991 | persia: currently I run the array.org kernel as that works OOB for all the hardware on this, any idea if the support should be there in the ubuntu kernel for Jaunty? | 14:31 |
| persia | Somewhere in the middle, people wanted to run lpia on the via C7M and similar chips, for instance the early Eee PCs. | 14:31 |
| persia | I'm not familiar with the array.org kernel. I believe that the test results for the Eee 1000 showed everything as working. | 14:32 |
| persia | But I do know that the netbook images on cdimage.ubuntu.com are all i386. | 14:32 |
| persia | And I believe most of the testing that was done on the Eee 1000 was done with i386. | 14:34 |
| persia | So, if I had an Eee1000, and I was installing Jaunty, I'd use http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook-remix/daily-live/current/jaunty-netbook-remix-i386.img | 14:34 |
| rhpot1991 | persia: I'd prefer the full desktop over NBR though, or is there some easy way to modify the UI? | 14:35 |
| rhpot1991 | currently have intrepid on here so I can just update-manager -d | 14:35 |
| persia | There's some way to modify the UI, but I forget what it is, and all the applications are the same anyway. | 14:36 |
| persia | You should be able to just run update-manager -d | 14:36 |
| rhpot1991 | thought so | 14:36 |
| persia | I'd recommend giving the Ubuntu kernel a try again: I think it supports the Eee 1000, and that way you get the updates, etc. automatically. | 14:37 |
| rhpot1991 | persia: I think I'll install lpia to my SDHC and mess with that some, and keep my main install in tact so I can always upgrade that if I don't like the lpia | 14:37 |
| rhpot1991 | persia: thats the plan, thanks | 14:37 |
| persia | Please report bugs if you find them with lpia. I doubt you'll notice much difference other than a few missing packages, but I could be wrong. | 14:38 |
| rhpot1991 | are there many missing packages? | 14:38 |
| persia | Well, the list of FTBFS for lpia is longer than the list for i386, by a fair bit. | 14:39 |
| persia | There's also a set of packages that are only compiled for specific architectures. I've added "lpia" to a bunch of those, but I suspect I've missed quite a few. | 14:39 |
| rhpot1991 | persia: I'll give it a run and report what I find | 14:42 |
| persia | rhpot1991, Cool. I always like it when someone tests lpia, because they usually find something I missed, but because I always recommend people use i386 instead, not everyone takes me up on it :) | 14:43 |
| ogra | settings-change desktop mode | 14:45 |
| ogra | s/-/->/ | 14:45 |
| ogra | that switches immediately to a classic ubuntu desktop | 14:45 |
| ogra | (under netbook remix) | 14:46 |
| rhpot1991 | ogra: any reason not to just use update-manager -d from a regular ubuntu install, IE does NBR give you anything different? | 14:47 |
| ogra | no, i just saw that persia suggested to use jaunty-netbook-remix-i386.img ans you asked about a way to easily change the UI ... | 14:48 |
| ogra | there is a "one button" way included by default in UNR now | 14:49 |
| rhpot1991 | ogra: ok, just checking | 14:49 |
| persia | So it's useful to me, even if not to you, because I can answer the question next time :) | 14:49 |
| rhpot1991 | persia: any idea if the intel drivers in Jaunty are an issue, I'm seeing some words about regression happening there | 16:13 |
| rhpot1991 | also can you verify that there is no lpia live cd, just an alternate installer | 16:14 |
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| steveire | Hi. I'm installing a kubuntu desktop system on my eee, and I noticed there's an ubuntu netbook remix. I want to make sure that if there's any under the hood differences in the UNR I can get the same on my kubuntu system. Most info pages I see on it are just about ui differences. | 18:28 |
| lool | It's mostly UI related | 18:32 |
| Riddell | also it's a USB image not an ISO | 18:35 |
| Riddell | and it's about 200MB larger surprisingly | 18:35 |
| steveire | OK so. I guess there's nothing extra for me to benefit from. | 18:42 |
| ogra | Riddell, it has a bunch of langpacks included | 18:44 |
| ogra | and the UNR desktop bits including their deps | 18:47 |
| ogra | beyond that its not much different | 18:47 |
| rhpot1991 | persia: seems there is no kernel/drivers/staging for lpia, and thats where the realtek wifi drivers live | 19:57 |
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