=== Nicke_ is now known as Nicke [14:14] quick question guys, I'm looking to upgrade my EEE1000 to Jaunty, and hopefully switch to a lpia kernel in the process, I prefer the full desktop as opposed to NBR. What is the best way for me to go about this, the lpia alternate installer cd? [14:27] rhpot1991, probably, although I'd recommend i386 over lpia. [14:27] persia: care to discuss why? [14:28] Sure. [14:28] Firstly, the lpia kernels didn't get quite as much testing, and some significant regressions from the merge into the main kernel tree were reported quite late in the cycle. [14:28] Contrariwise, the i386 kernel got the most testing of any variety. [14:29] So I would expect the i386 kernel to be more robust. [14:29] hmmm thats unfortunate, I heard good things about running lpia on netbooks from someone who works for dell [14:29] And last I looked, both kernels were i586+, so there oughtn't be significant i686 optimisation in the lpia kernel. [14:30] Well, there's a bit of an improvement, sometimes. [14:30] At one point, lpia was configured to be i686, so you saw the ~5% improvement you'd expect over the generic kernel. [14:31] And at one point, some of the compilations were i686 optimised as well, which gave a bit more of an improvement. [14:31] persia: currently I run the array.org kernel as that works OOB for all the hardware on this, any idea if the support should be there in the ubuntu kernel for Jaunty? [14:31] Somewhere in the middle, people wanted to run lpia on the via C7M and similar chips, for instance the early Eee PCs. [14:32] I'm not familiar with the array.org kernel. I believe that the test results for the Eee 1000 showed everything as working. [14:32] But I do know that the netbook images on cdimage.ubuntu.com are all i386. [14:34] And I believe most of the testing that was done on the Eee 1000 was done with i386. [14:34] So, if I had an Eee1000, and I was installing Jaunty, I'd use http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook-remix/daily-live/current/jaunty-netbook-remix-i386.img [14:35] persia: I'd prefer the full desktop over NBR though, or is there some easy way to modify the UI? [14:35] currently have intrepid on here so I can just update-manager -d [14:36] There's some way to modify the UI, but I forget what it is, and all the applications are the same anyway. [14:36] You should be able to just run update-manager -d [14:36] thought so [14:37] I'd recommend giving the Ubuntu kernel a try again: I think it supports the Eee 1000, and that way you get the updates, etc. automatically. [14:37] persia: I think I'll install lpia to my SDHC and mess with that some, and keep my main install in tact so I can always upgrade that if I don't like the lpia [14:37] persia: thats the plan, thanks [14:38] Please report bugs if you find them with lpia. I doubt you'll notice much difference other than a few missing packages, but I could be wrong. [14:38] are there many missing packages? [14:39] Well, the list of FTBFS for lpia is longer than the list for i386, by a fair bit. [14:39] There's also a set of packages that are only compiled for specific architectures. I've added "lpia" to a bunch of those, but I suspect I've missed quite a few. [14:42] persia: I'll give it a run and report what I find [14:43] rhpot1991, Cool. I always like it when someone tests lpia, because they usually find something I missed, but because I always recommend people use i386 instead, not everyone takes me up on it :) [14:45] settings-change desktop mode [14:45] s/-/->/ [14:45] that switches immediately to a classic ubuntu desktop [14:46] (under netbook remix) [14:47] ogra: any reason not to just use update-manager -d from a regular ubuntu install, IE does NBR give you anything different? [14:48] no, i just saw that persia suggested to use jaunty-netbook-remix-i386.img ans you asked about a way to easily change the UI ... [14:49] there is a "one button" way included by default in UNR now [14:49] ogra: ok, just checking [14:49] So it's useful to me, even if not to you, because I can answer the question next time :) [16:13] persia: any idea if the intel drivers in Jaunty are an issue, I'm seeing some words about regression happening there [16:14] also can you verify that there is no lpia live cd, just an alternate installer === rbelem is now known as rbelem-lunch === rbelem-lunch is now known as rbelem [18:28] Hi. I'm installing a kubuntu desktop system on my eee, and I noticed there's an ubuntu netbook remix. I want to make sure that if there's any under the hood differences in the UNR I can get the same on my kubuntu system. Most info pages I see on it are just about ui differences. [18:32] It's mostly UI related [18:35] also it's a USB image not an ISO [18:35] and it's about 200MB larger surprisingly [18:42] OK so. I guess there's nothing extra for me to benefit from. [18:44] Riddell, it has a bunch of langpacks included [18:47] and the UNR desktop bits including their deps [18:47] beyond that its not much different [19:57] persia: seems there is no kernel/drivers/staging for lpia, and thats where the realtek wifi drivers live === mkrufky is now known as Guest71612 === mkrufky1 is now known as mkrufky