[14:14] <rhpot1991> quick question guys, I'm looking to upgrade my EEE1000 to Jaunty, and hopefully switch to a lpia kernel in the process, I prefer the full desktop as opposed to NBR.  What is the best way for me to go about this, the lpia alternate installer cd?
[14:27] <persia> rhpot1991, probably, although I'd recommend i386 over lpia.
[14:27] <rhpot1991> persia: care to discuss why?
[14:28] <persia> Sure.
[14:28] <persia> Firstly, the lpia kernels didn't get quite as much testing, and some significant regressions from the merge into the main kernel tree were reported quite late in the cycle.
[14:28] <persia> Contrariwise, the i386 kernel got the most testing of any variety.
[14:29] <persia> So I would expect the i386 kernel to be more robust.
[14:29] <rhpot1991> hmmm thats unfortunate, I heard good things about running lpia on netbooks from someone who works for dell
[14:29] <persia> And last I looked, both kernels were i586+, so there oughtn't be significant i686 optimisation in the lpia kernel.
[14:30] <persia> Well, there's a bit of an improvement, sometimes.
[14:30] <persia> At one point, lpia was configured to be i686, so you saw the ~5% improvement you'd expect over the generic kernel.
[14:31] <persia> And at one point, some of the compilations were i686 optimised as well, which gave a bit more of an improvement.
[14:31] <rhpot1991> persia: currently I run the array.org kernel as that works OOB for all the hardware on this, any idea if the support should be there in the ubuntu kernel for Jaunty?
[14:31] <persia> Somewhere in the middle, people wanted to run lpia on the via C7M and similar chips, for instance the early Eee PCs.
[14:32] <persia> I'm not familiar with the array.org kernel.  I believe that the test results for the Eee 1000 showed everything as working.
[14:32] <persia> But I do know that the netbook images on cdimage.ubuntu.com are all i386.
[14:34] <persia> And I believe most of the testing that was done on the Eee 1000 was done with i386.
[14:34] <persia> So, if I had an Eee1000, and I was installing Jaunty, I'd use http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook-remix/daily-live/current/jaunty-netbook-remix-i386.img
[14:35] <rhpot1991> persia: I'd prefer the full desktop over NBR though, or is there some easy way to modify the UI?
[14:35] <rhpot1991> currently have intrepid on here so I can just update-manager -d
[14:36] <persia> There's some way to modify the UI, but I forget what it is, and all the applications are the same anyway.
[14:36] <persia> You should be able to just run update-manager -d
[14:36] <rhpot1991> thought so
[14:37] <persia> I'd recommend giving the Ubuntu kernel a try again: I think it supports the Eee 1000, and that way you get the updates, etc. automatically.
[14:37] <rhpot1991> persia: I think I'll install lpia to my SDHC and mess with that some, and keep my main install in tact so I can always upgrade that if I don't like the lpia
[14:37] <rhpot1991> persia: thats the plan, thanks
[14:38] <persia> Please report bugs if you find them with lpia.  I doubt you'll notice much difference other than a few missing packages, but I could be wrong.
[14:38] <rhpot1991> are there many missing packages?
[14:39] <persia> Well, the list of FTBFS for lpia is longer than the list for i386, by a fair bit.
[14:39] <persia> There's also a set of packages that are only compiled for specific architectures.  I've added "lpia" to a bunch of those, but I suspect I've missed quite a few.
[14:42] <rhpot1991> persia: I'll give it a run and report what I find
[14:43] <persia> rhpot1991, Cool.  I always like it when someone tests lpia, because they usually find something I missed, but because I always recommend people use i386 instead, not everyone takes me up on it :)
[14:45] <ogra> settings-change desktop mode
[14:45] <ogra> s/-/->/
[14:45] <ogra> that switches immediately to a classic ubuntu desktop
[14:46] <ogra> (under netbook remix)
[14:47] <rhpot1991> ogra: any reason not to just use update-manager -d from a regular ubuntu install, IE does NBR give you anything different?
[14:48] <ogra> no, i just saw that persia suggested to use jaunty-netbook-remix-i386.img ans you asked about a way to easily change the UI ... 
[14:49] <ogra> there is a "one button" way included by default in UNR now
[14:49] <rhpot1991> ogra: ok, just checking
[14:49] <persia> So it's useful to me, even if not to you, because I can answer the question next time :)
[16:13] <rhpot1991> persia: any idea if the intel drivers in Jaunty are an issue, I'm seeing some words about regression happening there
[16:14] <rhpot1991> also can you verify that there is no lpia live cd, just an alternate installer
[18:28] <steveire> Hi. I'm installing a kubuntu desktop system on my eee, and I noticed there's an ubuntu netbook remix. I want to make sure that if there's any under the hood differences in the UNR I can get the same on my kubuntu system. Most info pages I see on it are just about ui differences.
[18:32] <lool> It's mostly UI related
[18:35] <Riddell> also it's a USB image not an ISO
[18:35] <Riddell> and it's about 200MB larger surprisingly
[18:42] <steveire> OK so. I guess there's nothing extra for me to benefit from.
[18:44] <ogra> Riddell, it has a bunch of langpacks included
[18:47] <ogra> and the UNR desktop bits including their deps
[18:47] <ogra> beyond that its not much different
[19:57] <rhpot1991> persia: seems there is no kernel/drivers/staging for lpia, and thats where the realtek wifi drivers live