[00:14] <slangasek> so, we're back up to a full set of images; and it looks like kubuntu DVD are the only thing left to be tested :)
[00:14] <slangasek> liw: did Finnish tests go ok on the next run?
[00:17] <slangasek> liw: n/m, I can read the tracker saying that they did :)
[03:15] <TheMuso> c
[05:55] <dtchen> sbeattie: i'm out of time, so i'm not going to complete kubuntu dvd -> ubiquity oem. i have completed the other three tests on i386 and amd64, however.
[05:58] <sbeattie> dtchen: cool, thanks; I'm doing oem on i386 and am waiting for the amd64 dvd to download to do that one, but my pigeons are slow.
[06:04] <liw> good morning
[06:04] <liw> looks likes there's two Kubuntu DVD tests remaining (ubiquity oem install, 32- and 64-bit)
[06:04] <liw> anyone working on those?
[06:23] <sbeattie> liw: I'm working on the 32bit one and waiting for the 64 dvd to download...
[06:23] <sbeattie> if you wanna grab the latter, go for it.
[06:23] <liw> I'll do, as soon as my rsync finishes
[06:25] <sbeattie> my rsync has at least 1.5 hours to go, so you'll likely win that race.
[06:28] <liw> speaking of rsync... sbeattie, it's wonderful that dl-ubuntu-test-iso works on Debian, since now I can run it on my fileserver, which simplifies my workflow :)
[06:35] <liw> starting the test now
[06:57] <ara> good morning all :-)
[06:58] <liw> hi, ara
[06:58] <ara> hey liw
[07:00] <ara> are we expecting a respun of any of the images?
[07:02] <liw> I've only just woken up, so I don't know, but there was nothing in the backlog of this channel
[07:02] <ara> liw: yes, I am just reading the backlog
[07:08] <ara> so, liw, we can go back to sleep :P
[07:08] <liw> ara, I'm testing, I'm testing :)
[07:16] <liw> hmm... I wonder if that looks normal
[07:16] <ara> liw: what?
[07:17] <liw> the kde oem installer's language/timezone/etc chooser
[07:17] <ara> liw: can you imagebin that?
[07:17] <liw> just a minute, I'll make a screenshot
[07:17] <liw> there's an imagebin?
[07:18] <ara> liw: http://imagebin.org/index.php
[07:18] <ara> liw: I will start kde oem in the mean time
[07:19] <liw> http://imagebin.org/46426
[07:19] <liw> ara, sbeattie and I are already working on those
[07:20] <ara> liw: yes, but just to see if I get the same :)
[07:20] <liw> ah
[07:20] <ara> it does not look very pretty
[07:20] <ara> :)
[07:21] <liw> it's not a show-stopper, either
[07:21] <liw> so the question is, is it intended to be that way or not, and if not, I'll file a bug
[07:25] <sbeattie> liw: when it told you the install was done and tried to reboot, did it drop you to tty1 (which got killed but respawned)?
[07:26] <sbeattie> Oh, I bet that's because I took quiet and splash off of the install command line.
[07:26] <liw> sbeattie, no
[07:27] <ara> liw: it looks like a bug, it looks far much better in Spanish: http://imagebin.org/46429
[07:28] <liw> ara, is that with the OEM installer or the normal one?
[07:28] <ara> liw: oem
[07:28] <liw> but at the oem stage, not at the stage where the end-user boots into the system?
[07:29] <ara> liw: at the oem stage
[07:29] <ara> liw: and yours?
[07:29] <liw> the "End user creation" stage of http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/DesktopOem
[07:29] <liw> I think I'll just file a minor bug abuot that, but mark the test successful
[07:30] <ara> liw: yes, I think so
[07:30] <ara> liw: I'll move on, then, to see if I get that in the end user creation
[07:36] <sbeattie> liw: ah yeah, it's quite scrunched here as well.
[07:36] <liw> epiphany and launchpad are resisting my attempts to report the bug
[07:37] <liw> "Timeout error" *grr*
[07:37] <sbeattie> mmm, even better, X is failing after the user config here.
[07:37] <liw> sbeattie, my install went fine except for that
[07:38] <sbeattie> ara: are you doing yours in virtualbox as well?
[07:39] <ara> sbeattie: yup
[07:39] <liw> I'm using kvm
[07:40] <sbeattie> liw: yeah I saw from the imagebin.
[07:40] <liw> should I try the i386 under kvm?
[07:41] <liw> bug 364997 for the dialog weirdness, btw
[07:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 364997 in ubiquity "Kubuntu OEM installer's end user setup dialog layout is weird" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364997
[07:43] <liw> I might as well try the i386 one under kvm
[07:43] <liw> there's not a whole lot else to do
[08:19] <ara> good morning davmor2
[08:19] <davmor2> Morning ara
[08:21] <liw> my kubuntu dvd i386 oem test went fine
[08:28] <sbeattie> liw: I'm seeing if it will reproduce.
[08:28] <sbeattie> hunh, now it worked fine.
[08:30] <liw> the vagaries of virtualisation...
[08:30] <sbeattie> yeah
[08:34] <davmor2> yay everything bar a re-spin  on a slightly vague arm test
[08:35] <liw> slangasek, are you awake? we've tested everything now, see above
[08:58] <slangasek> liw: woohoo!
[08:59] <slangasek> interesting, the weather report doesn't know this
[09:00] <liw> I spot a netarm image being rebuilt
[09:00] <slangasek> could be it, yes
[09:00] <slangasek> (it's actually 'discarded' rather than 'being rebuilt')
[09:01] <liw> slangasek, so not something that is going to require re-testing?
[09:01] <liw> anything else looming ahead that would require re-testing?
[09:06] <davmor2> fader_: we'm done
[09:09] <davmor2> fader_: Is heno around there yet?
[09:10] <fader_> davmor2: woohoo! :D
[09:10] <fader_> davmor2: He's not -- he went back home last night, so he should be online at some point
[09:10] <fader_> assuming all went well on his drive back
[09:11] <fader_> (Inshallah, knock on wood, etc.)
[09:11] <slangasek> liw: there's nothing looming that we're expecting to need retesting, no
[09:11] <davmor2> fader_: it normally does thank God :)
[09:11] <fader_> :)
[09:12] <davmor2> fader_: yu staying in London for the release Party
[09:12] <fader_> davmor2: Absolutely... wouldn't miss it :)
[09:12] <fader_> davmor2: You're coming, right?
[09:13] <davmor2> I might think about it now.  But for intrepid there were some last minute issues which needed re-testing at the nth hour
[09:14] <fader_> davmor2: Hopefully that won't happen this time!  It'd be nice to meet you in meatspace.
[09:42] <cjwatson> liw: voikko> oh good
[09:44] <cjwatson> slangasek,TheMuso: yeah, shame that there wasn't any pressure to figure out *exactly* what the constraint was until we realised that "fixing" studio to remove ffmpeg entirely was going to be really hard ...
[09:53] <davmor2> Morning heno all done :)
[09:54] <heno> hey davmor2 :)
[11:02]  * fader_ eagerly looks forward to wiping and reinstalling his crufted-up laptop.
[11:29] <davmor2> guys are we going to be changing the names of our isos in order to seed them for bittorrent again?
[12:37]  * ara -> lunch
[13:46] <fader_> One _ down...
[13:49] <liw> hm?
[13:50] <slangasek> tail cropping is inhumane
[13:50] <slangasek> s/cropping/docking/
[13:50] <liw> ach
[14:01] <dtchen> cjwatson: RE: bug 364962, i've attached /var/log/installer/syslog from the kubuntu dvd ubiquity method; do you need anything else before i detach for the day?
[14:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 364962 in ubuntu-release-notes "[jaunty] using 20090420.1 alternate or 20090421.2 dvd (any frontend) image results in pulseaudio being installed by default" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364962
[14:01] <slangasek> dtchen: the bug also says that alternate CDs are affected; we need that too
[14:02] <slangasek> dtchen: can you also confirm that when you said "dist-upgrade", this refers only to apt-get dist-upgrade and not to upgrades using update-manager?
[14:02] <dtchen> slangasek: i only tested apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:02] <slangasek> ok
[14:09] <mvo> dtchen: I just looked at my kubuntu hardy and intrepid upgrade logs and it seems that libpulse gets installed, but nothing more via update-manager
[14:09]  * mvo tries apt-get
[14:13] <dtchen> i've asked maco to attach /var/log/installer/syslog from kubuntu alternate, since i need to return to work
[14:23] <maco> Just looked at Xubuntu daily's list, and PulseAudio's deb is on there too, so this weirdness with Pulse being installed on Kubuntu might be going on there too
[14:26] <davmor2> maco: I thought pulse had been in xubuntu for a while
[14:27] <maco> davmor2: it's not supposed to be
[14:27] <maco> only ubuntu, not kubuntu, xubuntu, or ubuntu-studio
[14:29] <davmor2> maco: studio uses gnome as it's base which uses pulse by default and to will pull it in.  I'm assuming the same is true for xubuntu that uses apps from gnomes base too
[14:29] <davmor2> s/to/so
[14:29] <maco> studio uses gnome, but not pulse. they don't support anyone that adds pulse into the mix
[14:29] <maco> because this version of pulse is not so good with jack
[14:31] <davmor2> maco: pass then
[14:32] <slangasek> presence in .list doesn't mean that it's installed by default
[14:33] <slangasek> near as I can tell, nothing should pull it in by default at install time
[14:33] <slangasek> (but it's a little late for trying to change that now...)
[14:35] <davmor2> right off for train tickets be back latter
[14:40] <maco> slangasek: right, just saying maybe it should be tested to be sure
[14:42] <maco> slangasek: which log file did you need from kubuntu?
[14:43] <slangasek> maco: /var/log/installer/syslog from an alternate install
[14:44] <slangasek> maco: attached to bug #364962, please
[14:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 364962 in ubuntu-release-notes "[jaunty] using 20090420.1 alternate or 20090421.2 dvd (any frontend) image results in pulseaudio being installed by default" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364962
[14:44] <maco> ok. i have an alternate install going right now
[14:45] <maco> wait, do you mean the syslog while still running from the cd, or do you mean after a reboot?
[14:46] <slangasek> they're the same thing, provided that you capture the complete log from the end of the install
[14:46] <slangasek> /var/log/syslog while the installer is running gets copied to /var/log/installer/syslog on the target systemw
[14:50] <maco> ah ok
[15:26] <maco> slangasek: ok, logfile's on the bug
[15:26] <slangasek> cjwatson: ^^
[15:26] <slangasek> maco: thanks
[15:28] <slangasek> maco: this log only shows libpulse0 being installed, not pulseaudio; so that seems to indicate alternate CD installs are ok?
[15:29] <maco> yeah seems like
[15:29] <maco> wow installing really heats that latop up
[16:03] <cjwatson> maco: thanks
[16:04] <cjwatson> so from this it does look like the note about alternate CDs having this problem can be removed from the release notes
[16:08] <slangasek> already done, I think