[00:00] <racecar56> noIdeasOriginal, 64bit has less packages than 32bit, but 64bit has some things 32bit dosen't have
[00:00] <racecar56> noIdeasOriginal, other than that i dont know
[00:00] <thahauss> clandestine_j, thanks, excuse my nubness but it would read like this then "rdesktop -u Administrator -p xxxxxx -r sound:remote -g 1900x1100+0+0 192.168.254.4 > dev/null"
[00:00] <MarkJones> noIdeasOriginal: 64bit can handle larger CPU instreuctions if apps are programmed to take advantage.And memory gets used better.
[00:00] <racecar56> noIdeasOriginal, wow 8gb? i got a comp from '07 and it has 2gb :(
[00:00] <thahauss> clandestine_j, I tried this, and now it wont launch at all
[00:00] <noIdeasOriginal> i'm fairly new to all this so i don't know what you mean by packages
[00:00] <vigo1> !packages
[00:00] <racecar56> noIdeasOriginal, biggest one in the house is 3gb and it's also from '07, smallest is 1gb
[00:01] <taz> thanks i fix it
[00:01] <Dreamglider> noIdeasOriginal: you want 64bit if you want to use 8Gb ram.
[00:01] <mac9416_2> racecar56, Do you know how to do it without X?
[00:01] <clandestine_j> thahauss: let me look; i'm running your command and it doesn't load for me with or without the redirection
[00:01] <vigo1> noIdeasOriginal: Packages are files or programs.
[00:01] <leejongwook> where can i get c source files ?
[00:01] <racecar56> mac9416_2, i think i have a hunch, idk though
[00:01] <noIdeasOriginal> markjones: right, i understand that. i have winxp x64 but alot of programs aren't for it. so i have like 7.75 gb ram in winxp x64. i tried ubuntu 64bit but it won't work for some reason.
[00:01] <MarkJones> leejongwook: Source code for what?
[00:01] <leejongwook> utilities
[00:02] <thahauss> clandestine_j, w/o the redirection it works fine on my end
[00:02] <leejongwook> tree rm etc..
[00:02] <racecar56> mac9416_2, make a shell script in your homedir or somewhere, and type commands you want it to run, make that shellscript be run on startup with the sessions thing
[00:02] <MarkJones> noIdeasOriginal: Oh
[00:02] <gkey> anyone any pointers to get cisco vpnc to work (it times out my connections)
[00:02] <leejongwook> MarkJones: all the linux source files :)
[00:02] <mac9416_2> racecar56: A'ight, thanks, man.
[00:03] <MarkJones> lets see here
[00:03] <MarkJones> 1 sec
[00:03] <racecar56> mac9416_2, kk
[00:03] <centHOGG> OT: anybody here good with geexbox
[00:03] <noIdeasOriginal> cool i'm going to definately look into those packages once i get ubuntu working.... to i'd really love to get 64bit working on the PC but i can't overcome that IOMMU issue
[00:03] <racecar56> mac9416_2, just notice that if you want to do it with a computer that dosen't even have X, then ask someone else, cause i have no earthly clue
[00:03] <Lam__> i'm writing a shell right now and i need to test my input redirection, but i don't know of a suitable command to do it.  will grep work?
[00:03] <racecar56> mac9416_2, like a server
[00:03] <noIdeasOriginal> i tried to add a few lines to the boot line when trying to demo or install it, but no luck. i've also tried to look into the BIOS to get IOMMU enabled but i can't find that option whatsoever.
[00:04] <MarkJones> leejongwook: packages.ubuntu.com you can download sources for most apps there.
[00:04] <leejongwook> MarkJones: thanks a lot :) thank you ~
[00:04] <MarkJones> welcome
[00:05] <Lam__> yes it does.  i solved my question using bash. thanks anyways
[00:05] <PROject-Emerald> MarkJones: Thanks :D
[00:05] <MarkJones> Your Weclome
[00:05] <mac9416_2> racecar56: Right, thanks man. I think this answered my question: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[00:06] <solexious> Hi, my main drive on my server is dieing quite rapidly, what should I copy so I can clone it?
[00:07] <MarkJones> noIdeasOriginal: Ive never heard of a BIOS option called IOMMU.
[00:07] <racecar56> mac9416_2, cool, i have been trying to figure out myself :P
[00:07] <solexious> I dont think it would survive a full disk clone
[00:07] <MarkJones> solexious: You need to clone a drive or back it up?
[00:07] <RedMonkey> sol, you might want to back up /boot
[00:07] <jmanuel_cool> please, can someone help me, i have a trouble with mi keyboard
[00:07] <RedMonkey> your kernel configs
[00:07] <RedMonkey> any custom init scripts
[00:07] <MarkJones> ask your question about your keyboard
[00:07] <Dreamglider> solexious: either you copy your most important files or you clone the entire disk/partition
[00:08] <thahauss> +0 192.168.254.4" so the terminal doesn't display and show up in the panel and ideas on how 2 do this?
[00:08] <jmanuel_cool> directional keys don't work
[00:08] <solexious> Its just system stuff that is on the disk, my personal files are on another disk
[00:08] <jmanuel_cool> all my keyboard work right 'till i install nvidia driver last night
[00:08] <MarkJones> solexious: I personally use a live image of Parted magic.They have a curerent new release of 4.0. find it on distrowatch.com theres a tool called partition image on it thats very good.
[00:09] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[00:09] <mattwj2002> I need some help
[00:10] <Dreamglider> !ask
[00:10] <MarkJones> ask your question go ahead.
[00:10] <solexious> MarkJones, pretty sure it wont be alive with that much use...
[00:10] <mattwj2002> I need to find a driver for my printer.....it is a Lexmark x2600  the driver name should be called "lexmark-inkjet-08-driver"  but I can
[00:10] <MarkJones> solexious: If you cant back it up then what do you want from us?
[00:10] <mattwj2002> 't find it on the lexmark site :(
[00:10] <racecar56> jmanuel_cool, try unpluggin and repluggin keyboard, is it PS/2, USB, or what?
[00:11] <Labmonkey123> hey
[00:11] <racecar56> Labmonkey123, hi
[00:11] <solexious> MarkJones, Just not sure what would be the best things to grab other than /home
[00:11] <jmanuel_cool> racecar56, PS/2
[00:11] <racecar56> jmanuel_cool, same here :)
[00:11] <Labmonkey123> anyone think they can help me with installing a new graphics card lol
[00:11] <dani-boy> heeeey!
[00:11] <racecar56> jmanuel_cool, brand? mines a belkin
[00:11] <MarkJones> solexious: Get parted magic live cd boot it, back it up and use that backup to clone to a new drive.Job done.
[00:12] <jmanuel_cool> racecar56, for example up arrow work like impr pant
[00:12] <racecar56> Labmonkey123, tell me more
[00:12] <MarkJones> solexious: Can even compress with gzip compression
[00:12] <Labmonkey123> I think i need a nwe power supply, but I am not sure
[00:12] <racecar56> Labmonkey123, i have a computer that needs new power supply too :\
[00:12] <solexious> MarkJones, Ok, will give it a go, thanks :)
[00:12] <racecar56> Labmonkey123, i have a computer that needs new power supply too :
[00:12] <jmanuel_cool> racecar56, is a Benq wireless, but yesterday works right
[00:12] <racecar56> Labmonkey123, oops
[00:12] <centHOGG> OT: anybody here good with geexbox
[00:12] <bhiggins> how can i get manpages for stuff like memcpy, printf, etc
[00:12] <Labmonkey123> http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_9800gt_us.html < that is the graphics card
[00:13] <MarkJones> Labmonkey123: if you want to see how its done try youtube theres probably a demo of how to do it.
[00:13] <racecar56> jmanuel_cool, ok, got another keyboard? chances are it might work
[00:13] <MarkJones> solexious: Welcome
[00:13] <racecar56> jmanuel_cool, i have tons of them, old and somewhat new
[00:13] <dani-boy> hey guys how do you change the notification style on ubuntu 9.04? i noticed that the one that came with the installation is different from the one in the video about 9.04 features. Any ways to change the style?
[00:13] <Labmonkey123> my computer is a dell e510, I am trying to find what powersupply i have
[00:13] <jmanuel_cool> was after i install nvidia driver whet start the trouble
[00:13] <jmanuel_cool> when
[00:13] <Labmonkey123> ill try youtube thanks
[00:14] <racecar56> Labmonkey123, open the comp's side and look @ the model, look @ ebay (or similar) and search for the model, problem solved
[00:14] <MarkJones> dani-boy:  check your System menu under admin or preferences and/or gnome settings.
[00:14] <jmanuel_cool> racecar56, the keyboard works in console (tty1 F.E.) but in gnome or fluxbox or lxde don't work
[00:14] <dani-boy> oki doki, thanks mark
[00:14] <MarkJones> dani-boy: if its changeablew its in there somehwere.
[00:14] <racecar56> jmanuel_cool, odd, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg?
[00:15] <noIdeasOriginal> can someone help me please
[00:15] <racecar56> jmanuel_cool, odd, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? (sorry)
[00:15] <jmanuel_cool> racecar56, don't work
[00:15] <noIdeasOriginal> i just tried the 32bit version
[00:15] <mattwj2002> anyone have any ideas?
[00:15] <racecar56> jmanuel_cool, odd, sorry i get mixed up -_-
[00:15] <jmanuel_cool> i tried reconfigure console-setup
[00:15] <MarkJones> Ideas about what?
[00:15] <racecar56> jmanuel_cool, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:15] <blackest> Anyone tried connecting an ubuntu pc to the wan port of a router and sharing a 3g connection ?
[00:15] <mattwj2002> where to find the "lexmark-inkjet-08-driver" driver for my x2600 lexmark printer
[00:15] <thewrath> hey is the issue with the udpates worked out
[00:15] <jmanuel_cool> racecar56, i tried all that before ask in chat
[00:15] <noIdeasOriginal> it says loading, please wait. and then i get a busybox v1.10.2 then (initramfs) with a whole bunch of stuff after that
[00:16] <racecar56> jmanuel_cool, kk
[00:16] <thewrath> i think it was something with perl or something
[00:16] <clandestine_j> bhiggins: if you have all the manpages, then you can do "man 2 call" where call is the syscall; or "man 3 lib" where lib is the library call
[00:16] <clandestine_j> bhiggins: you need to apt-get install manpages-dev for those
[00:16] <MarkJones> dani-boy: Check the included drivers in the driver list of ubuntu or website of manufacturer.Otherwise its probably not supported.
[00:16] <blackest> mattwj2002: is there a driver for lexmark ?
[00:16] <jmanuel_cool> the chat is my last utilty (i tried learn before) when all fail then i try chat
[00:16] <noIdeasOriginal> should i just give up? sheesh
[00:16] <MarkJones> dani-boy:  or other option is to look for  PPD (postscript printer driver file)
[00:17] <racecar56> noIdeasOriginal, i h8 busybox... i call that getting 'busyrolled'. i remember a while back trying kubuntu on my 2006 laptop and it busyrolled me ALL THE TIME, but it's fixed these days
[00:17] <mattwj2002> according to this website there is suppose to be
[00:17] <mattwj2002> http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-X2600_Series
[00:17] <mattwj2002> but I can't find the file to download :(
[00:17] <MarkJones> dani-boy: Ill take a look
[00:17] <jmanuel_cool> ok, tx
[00:17] <noIdeasOriginal> how do i fix being 'busyrolled' then, lol
[00:17] <MarkJones> dani-boy:  What model printer?
[00:17] <noIdeasOriginal> at least now i know that it wasn't just an issue trying 64bit
[00:18] <mac9416_2> How can I stream audio from a microphone via a web page on a home network server?
[00:18] <johnfinch> Howdy, I need to figure out how to get my computer to record audio, preferably through audacity. Anyone know anything of the sort?
[00:18] <dani-boy> no no dude, its not the printer
[00:18] <dani-boy> let me show you
[00:18] <MarkJones> k
[00:18] <dani-boy> have a look at this from ubuntu 9.04 http://www.markshuttleworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/jaunty904_notifications_example1_web_092.swf
[00:18] <racecar56> johnfinch, hack with the settings dialog, took me a while but i fixed it
[00:18] <racecar56> does ubuntu 9.04rc have trouble with a ati radeon 2400? and does it have fglrx for it?
[00:19] <MarkJones> oh sorry
[00:19] <dani-boy> i was just wondering if there's a way to change those notification so my ubuntu could have the same ones as in the video
[00:19] <MarkJones> Getting peopel mixed up.
[00:19] <johnfinch> What do you have to do racecar? I'm about ready to just switch back to XP which I really don't want to do. I've tried switching audio inputs and all that rot to no avail.
[00:19] <dani-boy> hehe
[00:19] <MarkJones> dani-boy:  Did you check gnome settings?
[00:20] <MarkJones> dani-boy: open home folder. edit, preferences?
[00:20] <dani-boy> let me do that, just a sec
[00:20] <MarkJones> k
[00:20] <racecar56> johnfinch, i don't really know... does it work in other apps? and anyway, what's your audacity version? mine is 1.3.7
[00:20] <centHOGG> johnfinch: i made a low-end linux ws that uses audacity for recording vinyl
[00:20] <Jordan_U> dani-boy, Are you simply not seeing the transparency?
[00:20] <Raylz> xfce has grown fat right?
[00:21] <Ademan> Raylz: no
[00:21] <racecar56> Raylz, somewhat
[00:21] <dani-boy> yeh and my volume bar is different
[00:21] <Jordan_U> Raylz, I wouldn't say so, not sure about Xubuntu though :)
[00:21] <johnfinch> racecar56: I have the latest version of Audacity. I can't record any audio on my computer though, not even through sound recorder.
[00:21] <MarkJones> dani-boy:  if you want tranparency you probably need compiz turned on with a working graphics driver
[00:22] <blackest> mattwj2002:  its difficult give me a chance and i'll search but its a swine they hide all linux drivers
[00:22] <dani-boy> oooooh
[00:22] <johnfinch> centHOGG: I want to record through a Blue Snowball. I need to track instruments and stuff like that.
[00:22] <Raylz> Ademan: so how much ram does it consum when doing nothing?
[00:22] <dani-boy> so they made that video with compiz
[00:22] <racecar56> i tried xubuntu on some old computer and it LAGLAGLAGLAGLAGLAGLAGGED, while kubuntu, YES, KUBUNTU KDE4, worked better. really weird
[00:22] <Ademan> how do you use screen to allow you to launch X11 applications on a remote computer? I remember the command was non-trivial if only because the man pages never directly reference X11.  something like screen -Rm or screen -Rd or something
[00:22] <mattwj2002> thanks blackest
[00:22] <MarkJones> dani-boy: hard to say but if you r talking tranparancy then yeah
[00:22] <centHOGG> johnfinch: i dunno Blue whatever
[00:22] <dani-boy> is there a new compiz version that came out with 9.04?
[00:23] <noIdeasOriginal> i guess this nvidia geforce 8200 isn't supported
[00:23] <Jordan_U> dani-boy, That video was a mockup from before notify-osd was actually implemented IIRC
[00:23] <MarkJones> dani-boy: well its included in Hardy and Intrepid so shoudl be for Jaunty also.\
[00:23] <racecar56> johnfinch, odd, you are either unlucky like my pc (my laptop records fine), your mic is bad, or ubuntu's settings are screwed
[00:23] <johnfinch> centHOGG: Do you know how to enable or fix ubuntu to record audio in any way? I can't even get sound recorder to work.
[00:23] <dani-boy> oh i see
[00:23] <centHOGG> johnfinch: sure PM me
[00:24] <MarkJones> dani-boy: install "compiz config settinsg manager " to tweak compiz effects
[00:24] <MarkJones> CCSM
[00:24] <racecar56> johnfinch, try matching audacity's settings with ubuntu's.
[00:24] <Jordan_U> dani-boy, Your hardware probably does not support compiz out of the box, otherwise you would see transparency
[00:24] <MarkJones> dani-boy: make sure you have a 3d video driver installed also.
[00:24] <dani-boy> no no compiz works great on my laptop
[00:24] <Ademan> Raylz: that's a silly question, idle ram usage isn't a good metric of... well... anything other than idle ram usage. anyways, I use gnome on this computer, so I couldn't quote you any numbers
[00:24] <dani-boy> i guess i'll play around with compiz to find the right match
[00:24] <racecar56> does ubuntu 9.04rc have trouble with a ati radeon 2400? and does it have fglrx for it?
[00:25] <Jordan_U> dani-boy, What happens when you mouse over a notification right now?
[00:25] <MarkJones> dani-boy: tranparency shoudl work right out of the box.
[00:25] <noIdeasOriginal> if anyone has any input or solution for me please message me
[00:25] <Raylz> Ademan: ye i mean idle
[00:25] <dani-boy> it goes transparent
[00:25] <Jordan_U> dani-boy, OK, so it'
[00:25] <dani-boy> but i wanted to change the way the notification is presented
[00:25] <Jordan_U> dani-boy, What about it?
[00:26] <racecar56> noIdeasOriginal, please explain more, sorry if you did before but my comp is laggin' like nuts because my stupid fglrx wont install
[00:26] <dani-boy> so you're saying that there should be a package with different notification styles, right?
[00:26] <MarkJones> dani-boy: look in your System menu under preferences.Might be in one of those.
[00:26] <Jordan_U> dani-boy, No
[00:26] <blackest> mattwj2002: wget http://www.downloaddelivery.com/downloads/cpd/lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb.sh.zip
[00:26] <Jordan_U> dani-boy, What about it do you want to change?
[00:27] <dani-boy> i wanted to make it just like in the video
[00:27] <mattwj2002> blackest how did you find it?
[00:27] <blackest> i googled it
[00:27] <mattwj2002> hmmm
[00:28] <mattwj2002> I tried that no luck
[00:28] <Jordan_U> dani-boy, Since the video was a mockup I don't think it will ever be exactly like the video
[00:28] <starfruit> how to set network manager to use a default SSID?
[00:28] <mattwj2002> well thank you! :D
[00:28] <racecar56> starfruit, easy
[00:28]  * mattwj2002 buys blackest a beer
[00:28] <blackest> lexmark-inkjet-08-driver thats what i searched for
[00:28] <racecar56> starfruit, system > preferences > network configuration
[00:28] <dani-boy> ahh oki doki, would have been awesome but i'll live with what i got now
[00:28] <duffc> 2 more days :D
[00:29] <racecar56> starfruit, click the wireless tab and then click a connection, click properties, sorry but i dont have wireless so i cant help
[00:29] <racecar56> got to brb
[00:29] <blackest> mattwj2002:  i'd ditch the lexmark asap horrible company
[00:29] <dani-boy> hey thanks Jordan and Mark. Appreeshiyated you answering me questions.
[00:29] <MarkJones> I would personaly ditch inkjet asap
[00:30] <MarkJones> Ink costs more per ml than oil.
[00:30] <MarkJones> hehe
[00:30] <mattwj2002> lol
[00:30] <MarkJones> laserjet babay!
[00:30] <Jordan_U> starfruit, To continue where racecar56 left off, just click on the wireless network associated with the SSID ( or create one if there isn't one already ) and check the box to automatically connect
[00:30] <racecar56> starfruit, by the way mostly there is 1 connection called auto eth0
[00:30] <racecar56> Jordan_U, thank you
[00:30] <mattwj2002> yeah I have a nice HP for printing....I bought this for scanning :) it was only $50 usd
[00:30] <fizk> In jaunty, why does shutdown just logout the user?
[00:30] <blackest> true my samsung lazer costs me about £25 a cart and i'm on the 2nd one in two years or so
[00:31] <Skapare> what is the difference between the "desktop" CD iso and the DVD iso?  just more packages?  or does the DVD contain both desktop and server stuff?
[00:31] <starfruit> racecar56, i am checking, thx
[00:31] <blackest> hp scanner printers are kind of cheap and work easy
[00:31] <MarkJones> fizk:  Well this isnt the Jaunty room and there are 2 days left till release and it may be fixed in teh final.
[00:31] <starfruit> Jordan_U, all SSID are on automatic mode, so i have to disable each one by one
[00:32] <Skapare> fizk: you could ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:32] <MarkJones> Skapare: DVD fills the extra space with commonly downloaded packages\
[00:32] <grodius> what term command unpacks a rar?
[00:32] <jrib> !rar > grodius
[00:32] <blackest> jaunty shuts down fine in mine with a sixty second delay which i can click to bypass
[00:32] <Skapare> MarkJones: so more packages ... but they aren't installed ... just handy to install?
[00:32] <MarkJones> grodius: youll need the unrar package installed and you can use file-roller
[00:32] <TopBunny98> grodius: tar -zxvf file .tar
[00:33] <jrib> TopBunny98: "rar"
[00:33] <Jordan_U> starfruit, You shouldn't need to disable anything, just create a new connection with the ssid setting you want and set it to automatically connect, it should use that over the others that were automatically discovered
[00:33] <MarkJones> Skapare:yep, if you install an app and its packages are on teh DVD it just grabs them from there, unless you instal a newer version.
[00:33] <bonez46> what alternatives exist to replace NetworkManager?
[00:33] <alienkid10> I currently use Xubuntu and am going to switch to ubuntu in 2 days and was wondering how to make the transition easier(I backed up my emerald theme and compiz settings)
[00:33] <fizk> MarkJones: Skapare: ty
[00:33] <MarkJones> or a never version is available
[00:33] <Jordan_U> bonez46, Any reason why you want a replacement?
[00:33] <jrib> alienkid10: umm, just install ubuntu-desktop, there's nothing to back up
[00:33] <starfruit> Jordan_U, ok, will try taht
[00:33] <MarkJones> welcome
[00:33] <Skapare> MarkJones: OK, thanks
[00:34] <jrib> alienkid10: you can even just switch between gnome and xfce at the login screen then
[00:34] <blackest> bonez46:  wifi-radar  tends to make things easier
[00:34] <MarkJones> alienkid10: Make the switch? Backup your home folder thats about it.
[00:34] <starfruit> Jordan_U, but there are two SSID in my area, with the same name. will it take mac address of the ssid router?
[00:34] <Skapare> MarkJones: I'm just gonna skip making hybrids out of the DVD isos
[00:34] <alienkid10> jrib: I am reinstalling to completely remove xfce/xubuntu and was wondering about the switch to GNOME really
[00:34] <kungpowzer> grodius well that made my head hurt
[00:34] <starfruit> Jordan_U, ok i see
[00:34] <bonez46> blackest: even if I don't have any wireless on my lan?
[00:34] <alienkid10> and nautilus
[00:34] <jrib> alienkid10: why?
[00:35] <blackest> no not really lol
[00:35] <MarkJones> Skapare: Oh you mean like using UCk to make a custom ISO live CD?
[00:35] <bonez46> Jordan_U: my networkmanager icon shows no connection, despite being connected..
[00:35] <Skapare> MarkJones: thanks
[00:35] <jrib> alienkid10: I mean why even bother to reinstall.  Seems like a hassle when you can just install ubuntu side-by-side
[00:35] <starfruit> Jordan_U, the reason i have to do it is that, it automatically connects to an SSID with the greatest signal, but that ssid sucks
[00:35] <MarkJones> welcome
[00:35] <obx> guys
[00:35] <Jordan_U> bonez46, Did you connect via network-manager?
[00:35] <obx> I really need to know if it's possible to go from fluxbuntu to a stable version of ubuntu
[00:36] <blackest> starfruit:  are both ssid on the same channel ?
[00:36] <bonez46> Jordan_U: I didn't actively connect that way.. it's just connected..
[00:36] <obx> this is ridiculous
[00:36] <alienkid10> because GNOME is REALLY different and I do want to use it but I want to know if there's anything that can help the switch
[00:36] <jrib> alienkid10: if anything, I think having both installed would make the transition easier since you can always run the programs you are used to in xfce in gnome
[00:36] <Skapare> MarkJones: I don't know "UCk" ... I'm making hybrid ISOs from the stock ISOs ... hybrids can be used as ISO to burn to CD/DVD ... or can be dd'd directly to USB keys and SD cards
[00:36] <Jordan_U> starfruit, BSSID is the wireless equivalent of a MAC address
[00:36] <bonez46> Jordan_U: but yes, I guess I am connected via nm
[00:36] <MarkJones> Oh I see.
[00:36] <noIdeasOriginal> still same thing happening
[00:36] <jrib> obx: ask #fluxbuntu
[00:36] <MarkJones> obx: You can go from fluxbuntu to whatever your little hearts conent with. :)
[00:36] <obx> there's nobody in there
[00:37] <kous> is there a package to make cDVD images from scratch?
[00:37] <starfruit> blackest, i don't think so
[00:37] <obx> i don't have the capability to burn anything right now
[00:37] <jrib> obx: that's the channel for fluxbuntu support, they would know about the distribution
[00:37] <The_Tick> is there a guide or anything for switching from os x to ubuntu?
[00:37] <kous> or, to delete items inside an image
[00:37] <jrib> !install > obx
[00:37] <blackest> obx: most times just install ubuntu desktop and your good to go
[00:37] <jrib> obx: that may or may not help you
[00:37] <kous> without completely ruining the image that is
[00:37] <TopBunny98> starfruit: Mac addresses are hard coded int the Network interface Adapter so to answer your question no you can not change the mac address of a NIC  unless you change out the nic.
[00:37] <Jordan_U> bonez46, What version of Ubuntu?
[00:37] <bonez46> 8.10 desktop
[00:37] <MarkJones> The_Tick: Theres all of us and there lots of free online docs too.
[00:37] <jrib> The_Tick: help.ubuntu.com is really all anyone needs to get started
[00:38] <noIdeasOriginal> MarkJones: it didn't work
[00:38] <MarkJones> The_Tick: Any question you have just feel free to aks.
[00:38] <thahauss> starfruit, you can however spoof your MAC address
[00:38] <starfruit> TopBunny98, dude, i didn't want to change mac
[00:38] <The_Tick> MarkJones: alright :)
[00:38] <The_Tick> MarkJones: so I started Growl on os x
[00:38] <blackest> starfruit: use wifi-radar if nothing else works and specify the channel
[00:38] <The_Tick> is there anything like that?
[00:38] <MarkJones> noIdeasOriginal: What didnt work?
[00:38] <The_Tick> besides guifications
[00:38] <jrib> The_Tick: notifications in 9.04 are like growl
[00:38] <The_Tick> there's a central location to manage them?
[00:38] <lakin> A long time ago I read an ubuntu (maybe debian) tutorial about a command line utility that listed directory structure in a visual ascii-art sorta way that was suitable for inclusion (as a visualization) into a document that references said structure.
[00:38] <starfruit> blackest, ok
[00:38] <noIdeasOriginal> see the message i sent you
[00:38] <lakin> any one know which command I'm talking about?
[00:38] <noIdeasOriginal> you said to reset bios settings
[00:38] <Jordan_U> bonez46, What happens if you connect via the pannel applet ( it will probably disconnect you before it reconnects so hopefully we don't lose you :)
[00:39] <starfruit> thahauss, spoof my wifi mac? my wlan0 interface?
[00:39] <kous> is there a package to make cDVD images from scratch? (edit images without destroying them)
[00:39] <kungpowzer> ?
[00:39] <bonez46> via which panel (1 elll??) applet?
[00:39] <The_Tick> how about a system wide spell checker?
[00:39] <The_Tick> anything like that?
[00:39] <thahauss> starfruit, yes, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-your-network-card-mac-address-on-ubuntu.html
[00:39] <jrib> The_Tick: yeah, anything that uses a gtk input box will get spell checking automatically...
[00:40] <The_Tick> jrib: cool
[00:40] <The_Tick> I haven't used a linux gui in.. 8 years :)
[00:40] <The_Tick> so sorry about the more gui style questions
[00:40] <Jordan_U> bonez46, You should have a networking icon at the top right of the screen
[00:40] <The_Tick> I'll google for how to convert my mailboxes and stuff, and read that help
[00:40] <bonez46> yeah, it's there...
[00:41] <starfruit> thahauss, cool
[00:41] <bonez46> that's network manager..
[00:41] <thahauss> starfruit, :)
[00:41] <kous> is there a package to make cDVD images from scratch? (edit images without destroying them)
[00:41] <lakin> Ha - I think it's called tree
[00:41] <The_Tick> is there still this whole odd thing with every kde app starting with a k?
[00:41] <PROject-Emerald> what's the console command to run .sh files?
[00:41] <The_Tick> PROject-Emerald: ./foo.sh
[00:41] <The_Tick> chmod +x it first
[00:41] <PROject-Emerald> +x or a+x?
[00:41] <lstarnes> PROject-Emerald: or sh filename.sh
[00:41] <jrib> The_Tick: heh, there are some exceptions
[00:42] <TopBunny98> PROject-Emerald: /.filename.sh
[00:42] <lstarnes> PROject-Emerald: I think +x is the same as a+x
[00:42] <The_Tick> PROject-Emerald: or sh -x foo.sh
[00:42] <The_Tick> will give you nice output of what it's doing :)
[00:42] <dan76> I am having sporadic problems with my on board network card starting. It works about 50% of the time. Maybe more often. I would like to find out how to get started from a term window incase it doesnt start without having to reboot each time
[00:42] <The_Tick> jrib: such as?
[00:42] <meemo> I've had a problem with login. Login fails with segfault either in gdm or console. Solution have been in bug #303458 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/303458/comments/31
[00:42] <mac9416_2> How do I stream a microphone port across my home network?
[00:42] <The_Tick> jrib: oh, nm
[00:42] <The_Tick> heh
[00:42] <jrib> The_Tick: amarok, dolphin, I don't use kde
[00:42] <The_Tick> hrmm
[00:42] <The_Tick> oh, I guess I'll need my iphone to sync
[00:42] <The_Tick> is there anything for that?
[00:42] <jrib> The_Tick: not going to happen
[00:43] <The_Tick> gotcha
[00:43] <The_Tick> windows vm it is
[00:43] <FloodBot1> The_Tick: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:43] <The_Tick> will he boot me eventually?
[00:43] <jrib> The_Tick: hash was broken for version 1 of the firmware, but apple changed it for version 2 and I don't think that's been broken yet
[00:43] <jrib> The_Tick: no, but try not to break up what you say with enter
[00:43] <The_Tick> ya, I'm not interested in breaking apple stuff, I'll just my old imac or dual boot my mbp or something
[00:43] <PROject-Emerald> grr it's not working
[00:44] <jrib> The_Tick: personally, I jailbroke mine and just ssh into it
[00:44] <The_Tick> jrib: unfortunately I've tried that, I can't not type this, hasn't changed since 94, *sigh*
[00:44] <kous> is there a package to make cDVD images from scratch? (edit images without destroying them)
[00:44] <The_Tick> ok, so iphone has to be figured out or replaced
[00:44] <dan76> the tick, what are you trying to do?
[00:44] <Jordan_U> mac9416_2, It's not trivial unfortunately, and I can't walk you through step by step but you are going to want to use pulseaudio
[00:44] <The_Tick> dan76: switch from os x
[00:44] <ienorand> Is there a channle for openoffice?
[00:45] <The_Tick> ienorand: ya, #openoffice.org I think
[00:45] <dan76> The_tick: and.? You want your Iphone to work?
[00:45] <mac9416_2> Jordan_U: OK, not much experience with Pulse, but please continue.
[00:45] <The_Tick> dan76: I'm just asking random questions about things I use before I invest a huge amount of time into it
[00:45] <The_Tick> and some money
[00:45] <darobman> I'm not sure I can ask this question here.  Every time I try to install the flash plugin on Firefox on Ubuntu, It installs but the plugin doesnt work.  I've tried all three available.   Are there any knwon issues.  I've tried Ubuntu 8.04/8.10 and now i'm on the RC9.04
[00:46] <starfruit> blackest, why network set up ask me to put a MAC when there's already a field for SSID? is this MAC address a fake one, one to tell the wirless router, that I have fake MAC 00:22:22:22:22
[00:46] <MarkJones> darobman: Where did you get the flash plugin? repositories?
[00:46] <dan76> The_Tick: I have my Iphone syncing with SunVirtual Box. Apparently it will work with OSX
[00:46] <jrib> PROject-Emerald: what are you trying to do exactly?
[00:47] <kungpowzer> darobman d/l the installer then close all firefox session then run the installer
[00:47] <blackest> starfruit: its getting a bit beyond but i'm guessing it wants the mac address of the router you want to connect too
[00:47] <starfruit> running "macchanger" will permanently change my mac or just once, during reboot?
[00:48] <darobman> kungpowzer, should i download the instlaler form the adobe site?
[00:48] <dan76> darobman: also make sure you don't have any of the other flash player plugins installed just use the adobe one
[00:48] <MarkJones> darobman: Just go to adobe.com and dlownload the Ubuntu package for Flash. Its up to version 10.
[00:48] <Jordan_U> starfruit, Since the BSSID is basically the mac address of the Access point you are probably right that the MAC option changes the MAC of your wireless card
[00:48] <darobman> I'll give those suggestions a try.
[00:48] <GillaGal> My new system has 4GB of RAM, but an Intel Q2300 Quad core processor.  Should I be installing Ubunutu 32bit still?
[00:48] <MarkJones> dan76:jinx :)
[00:48] <blackest> starfruit:  i don't know why you want to do that unless your jumping on a lan you shouldnt be on
[00:48] <starfruit> Jordan_U, or what blackest said
[00:49] <shadowh511> GillaGal: is it a 64-bit brocessor?
[00:49] <starfruit> let me reboot and test my config
[00:49] <GillaGal> shadowh511 Aren't most newer processors?
[00:49] <dan76> MarkJones: I spent an hour pulling my hair out after I upgraded to jaunty trying to figure out why my flash wasn't working anymore..then I realize I had two flash player plugins competing with each other
[00:49] <MarkJones> aha.hehe
[00:50] <blackest> GillaGal:  i think there is a problem addressing over 3gb ram (however that might be a windows limitation)
[00:50] <shadowh511> @GillaGal try and see if 64-bit works, and if it doesn't,  use 32-bit
[00:50] <NativeAngels> has anyone tried the desktop versions of 9.04
[00:50] <NativeAngels> or the trial
[00:50] <Jordan_U> GillaGal, Depends, Do you use many proprietary apps that are 32 bit only? If so are you willing to setup a 32 bit environment for them?
[00:50] <PROject-Emerald> ah, I forgot to CD :P
[00:51] <shadowh511> NativeAngels: i am running it, no major preformance slowages, only fastages
[00:51] <celthunder> gillagal no install 64 bit
[00:51] <JohnnyBGoode> hello, can anyone help me with streaming "sop"
[00:51] <dan76> I am having sporadic problems with my on board network card starting. It works about 50% of the time, maybe more often. I would like to find out how to get it started from a term window in case it doesnt start without having to reboot each time
[00:51] <JohnnyBGoode> ?
[00:51] <NativeAngels> have u installed it or just using live version
[00:51] <JohnnyBGoode> i want to watch hockey online for free
[00:51] <Jordan_U> GillaGal, There are very few open source apps that are not 64 bit compatible
[00:51] <blackest> NativeAngels: yes it seems quite stable a few new features Computer Janitor is a pain in the ...
[00:52] <shadowh511> NativeAngels: installed and running, but the computer janitor FAILS EPICALLY
[00:52] <NativeAngels> whats that
[00:52] <GillaGal> Jordan_U Most apps have 64bit support?
[00:52] <blackest> NativeAngels: installed it over a box thats been updated through dapper to jaunty
[00:52] <obx> well i can install up to hardy i guess on fluxbuntu >>
[00:52] <starfruit> blackest, hey, it now works. connect to free hotspot with signal level 50%, instead of non-free spot with signal level 70%
[00:52] <Jordan_U> GillaGal, Yes
[00:52] <GillaGal> 64 bit it is.
[00:53] <blackest> starfruit:  glad to help
[00:53] <starfruit> thanks guys
[00:53] <obx> i know this is the wrong room, but is there a specific dvd type that you are supposed to burn with vista discs?
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[00:54] <FloodBot1> manoleteee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:54] <safruhani> :)
[00:54] <manoleteee> http://barbaritoso.elbruto.es <- MOST ADDICTIVE GAME EVER SINCE YETISPORTS.
[00:54] <TopBunny98> obx Please ask your question in #windows
[00:54] <dan76> Network help...anyone?
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[00:54] <obx> is there a windows on here?
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[00:55] <blackest> obx: assuming you  want to burn a backup of the vista install  i'd use dvd - but i dont think it matters
[00:55] <TopBunny98> obk /j #windows
[00:55] <iceroot> manoleteee: bye
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[00:55] <safruhani> :)
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[00:55] <FloodBot1> manoleteee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:55] <dan76> agreed
[00:55] <ErrantEgo> stew: you're late
[00:55] <ErrantEgo> lol
[00:56] <Skapare> late, slow, whatever, but at least the thing is gone
[00:57] <misho> hi boys and girls
[00:57] <Tetracomm> I setup a Mibbit page so that the visitors of my website could join the Ubuntu channel right away, and it doesn\'t let them in automatically, why?
[00:57] <Tetracomm> It says something about a proxy.
[00:57] <The_Tick> Tetracomm: that is a proxy
[00:57] <PROject-Emerald> Why won't the CD command work?
[00:57] <lstarnes> Tetracomm: mibbit users need to follow some extra instructions to be able to enter here
[00:57] <lstarnes> PROject-Emerald: are you using it as cd or as CD?
[00:57] <LjL> Tetracomm: Mibbit is only allowed in this channel as a special exeption, please don't set up a site that way, ask in #ubuntu-ops for clarifications
[00:57] <PROject-Emerald> cd
[00:57] <The_Tick> PROject-Emerald: what message do you get back?
[00:57] <PROject-Emerald> ex: cd /home/craig/Desktop/rsbot
[00:58] <spiel_mit_feuer> hmm.. question, do i need xgl to properly run compiz with a GMA950 chipset?
[00:58] <The_Tick> oh ya, is x11r6 the desktop environment of choice these days?
[00:58] <PROject-Emerald> umm,
[00:58] <PROject-Emerald> mike@mike-desktop:~$ sudo cd /home/craig/Desktop/rsbot_543v4
[00:58] <PROject-Emerald> sudo: cd: command not found
[00:58] <The_Tick> PROject-Emerald: sudo isn't in path
[00:59] <The_Tick> PROject-Emerald: echo $PATH
[00:59] <PROject-Emerald> so don't do sudo when I do it?
[00:59] <The_Tick> PROject-Emerald: correct
[00:59] <The_Tick> see if just cd works
[00:59] <dan76> Need help: I am having sporadic problems with my on board network card starting. It works about 50% of the time, maybe more often. I would like to find out how to get it started from a term window in case it doesnt start without having to reboot each time
[00:59] <TheFunkbomb> Hey, how can I get the sound device back into the tray?
[00:59] <tsimpson> PROject-Emerald: cd isn't a program
[00:59] <The_Tick> dan76: could be a network service dying
[00:59] <PROject-Emerald> OH
[00:59] <PROject-Emerald> Thanks :D
[00:59] <PROject-Emerald> See, now I'm one step closer to learning fluent linux! :D
[01:00] <MarkJones> dan76:PM
[01:00] <MarkJones> dan76:P.M.
[01:00] <MarkJones> crap
[01:00] <MarkJones> private message
[01:00] <dan76> The_Tick: possibly but its always been iffy under Ubuntu and never under Windows
[01:00] <The_Tick> dan76: windows drivers could be compensating
[01:00] <The_Tick> dan76: is this a desktop machine?
[01:01] <The_Tick> i.e. does it have another slot available?
[01:01] <dan76> The_Tick: true. It is a desktop machine and a motherboard based ethernet
[01:01] <Jordan_U> dan76, Ethernet card?
[01:01] <The_Tick> dan76: if nothing else, go find a 10 dollar nic
[01:02] <dan76> Jordan_U: no its on the mobo
[01:02] <The_Tick> might be worth your frustration level
[01:02] <Jordan_U> dan76, You can try "sudo ifconfig eth0 up && sudo dhclient eth0"
[01:02] <dan76> The_tick: once it starts working it works flawlessly. I just need to find out how to boot it again so I don't have to reboot the whole machine
[01:03] <MarkJones> dan76: you on 8.10?
[01:03] <The_Tick> dan76: what run level are you in?
[01:03] <dan76> Jordan: let me try
[01:03] <dan76> The_Tick: I run Jaunty
[01:03] <The_Tick> heh, I don't know what that means
[01:03] <The_Tick> guessing that's some release?
[01:03] <Jordan_U> dan76, Have you tried selecting the interface from the network-manager applet?
[01:03] <dan76> but it also happened under intrepid too
[01:03] <The_Tick> ya, what Jordan_U is saying is a good idea
[01:04] <The_Tick> does ubuntu use runlevels, like runlevel 5 for running the desktop and runlevel 3 for just the console?
[01:04] <The_Tick> and 6 for shutdown?
[01:04] <dan76> Jordan_U: clarify ...do you mean is there an entry?
[01:04] <misho> j installed xp and intrepid(dual boot),but GRUB wont work when my mice is pluged in usb,in fact j cant navigate with arrows,when mice is unpluged it is ok.What shoul J do?
[01:04] <lstarnes> The_Tick: runlevels 2-5 do the same thing by default.  1 is single-user, 0 is shutdown, and 6 is reboot
[01:04] <dan76> The_Tick: oh...sorry yeah, I am in the graphical so 5 I guess
[01:05] <BePhantom> hello guys, is 9.04 final available for download?
[01:05] <Jordan_U> dan76, That and if there is one have you tried selecting it? ( that will cause it to do a DHCP renew )
[01:05] <iceroot> BePhantom: 2 days
[01:05] <The_Tick> lstarnes: ah ok, so that's easy
[01:05] <BePhantom> iceroot ok :)
[01:05] <The_Tick> dan76: so worst case you could see what it does at the runlevel you're at
[01:05] <The_Tick> and rerun that process
[01:06] <iceroot> BePhantom: depending on your timezone, maybe one day :) 23.04 will the release
[01:06] <The_Tick> if you say a reboot always fixes it and you think it's software
[01:06] <The_Tick> if that works, just cronjob it
[01:06] <AMDfanboy> ﻿hi, whats the best way to make a screencast that i can put on youtube of firefox?
[01:06] <Doppp> Excited for Jaunty... Will it work with my Asus 1000HE netbook?
[01:06] <AMDfanboy> MarkJones, i tried gtk screencast, it was blurry and choppy, know how to fix it?
[01:07] <BePhantom> iceroot ok, can't wait for it...i screwed up my ubuntu 8.10 install so i wan't 9.04 asap :D
[01:07] <BePhantom> want*
[01:08] <dan76> Jordan_U: I tried the line you suggested...it trys to discover dhcp but finds no leases
[01:08] <iceroot> BePhantom: maybe use the rc1 and then upgrade in 1-2 days
[01:08] <MarkJones> AMDfanboy: if your doing a screencast did you try GTK-record-my-desktop?
[01:08] <iceroot> BePhantom: or use 8.04.2 LTS which i prefer
[01:08] <AMDfanboy> markjones, yeah i tried it, its blurry and choppy?
[01:08] <AMDfanboy> i wonder if it can be fixed?
[01:08] <BePhantom> iceroot i can wait a bit  more
[01:09] <MarkJones> AMDfanboy: Ive only messed with it once cdoes it have options for resolution and/or bitrate?
[01:09] <iceroot> BePhantom: ok :)
[01:09] <Jordan_U> Doppp, Not sure but you might want to look into Ubuntu netbook remix
[01:10] <dan76> Didn't there used to be a filter button in the system log viewer?
[01:10] <Doppp> Aight thanks. =)
[01:10] <BePhantom> iceroot i installed kubuntu-desktop from the repos and it screwed my gnome :D
[01:10] <spiel_mit_feuer> does anyone know how to get compiz to run properly on an intel GMA950 graphics?
[01:10] <MarkJones> AMDfanboy:Also if your having trouble with reading text cause its blurry a lot of screencasters use some sort of zooming utility to zoom in on text so its readable.
[01:10] <BePhantom> and i really hate kde iceroot :D
[01:10] <iceroot> BePhantom: hate is no good word
[01:10] <BePhantom> spiel_mit_feuer i have intel 950
[01:10] <TheFunkbomb> does anyone know how to get the volume control speaker back into the system tray in the upper right hand corner?
[01:10] <etzerd> is it safe to install the RC now?
[01:10] <MarkJones> Text is hard to read on a 320x240 screencast.
[01:10] <BePhantom> spiel_mit_feuer intel 945 actually
[01:10] <spiel_mit_feuer> are you using compiz?
[01:11] <iceroot> BePhantom: the problem is that ubuntu is a verby bad distri for kde, if you want to enjoy kde use opensuse
[01:11] <AMDfanboy> markjones, yeah i cant see how to change the resolution, but it does let me tweak fps.
[01:11] <behappy> top command give me Bus Error what is this mean ??
[01:11] <BePhantom> iceroot kde is so difficult, in gnome i could find everything with a few clicks
[01:11] <MarkJones> TheFunkbomb: Right click panel  add to panel
[01:11] <linkd_> AMDfanboy, what is your favourite processor manufacturer?
[01:12] <BePhantom> spiel_mit_feuer yes, compiz works like a charm
[01:12] <spiel_mit_feuer> BePhantom, did you have to install xgl or aiglx to get compiz to function?
[01:12] <iceroot> BePhantom: its not difficult, its just different like linux and windows
[01:12] <TheFunkbomb> MarkJones, that only adds it to the Applications/Places/System tray.  Not the tray that has the date
[01:12] <sachael> do you guys know any more "zen" commands like "yes", "true" and "false"?
[01:12] <AMDfanboy> linkd, you guessed it, i guess ;-)
[01:12] <jardel> hello
[01:12] <BePhantom> spiel_mit_feuer no, i didnt have to tweak anything, it works by default
[01:12] <MarkJones> TheFunkbomb: no it doesnt
[01:12] <MarkJones> its movable
[01:12] <spiel_mit_feuer> did you just sudo apt-get install compiz
[01:12] <spiel_mit_feuer> ?
[01:13] <spiel_mit_feuer> i had compiz installed.. but when i clicked on blurry windows, all my windows went black
[01:13] <TheFunkbomb> MarkJones, and it doesn't move past the separator
[01:13] <BePhantom> iceroot yeah i guess, but i miss gnome :D
[01:13] <linkd_> AMDfanboy, I bet it's ARM.
[01:13] <spiel_mit_feuer> i had KDE4 once, hated it
[01:13] <TheFunkbomb> uh oh spaghettios
[01:13] <BePhantom> spiel_mit_feuer i didnt have to install anything actually, please write my nickname when talking to me :D
[01:13] <MarkJones> TheFunkbomb:You have to toggle "lock to panel" on your applets to move past them.
[01:13] <anthony_> Hi, how do I put a question (y or n?) into a shell script
[01:13] <MarkJones> inlcuding seperators :)
[01:13] <poet> clear
[01:13] <spiel_mit_feuer> bephantom, was it pre-installed on your computer?
[01:13] <TheFunkbomb> I just did something bad
[01:13] <TheFunkbomb> lol
[01:13] <iceroot> BePhantom: and why not using it?
[01:14] <BePhantom> spiel_mit_feuer yes, just installed 8.10, it worked out of the box
[01:14] <BePhantom> iceroot because i installed kunbuntu-desktop and it removed wicd from gnome, i cant use internet in gnome
[01:14] <Jordan_U> spiel_mit_feuer, Can you pastebin the output of "compiz --replace & sleep 20; metacity --replace"
[01:14] <spiel_mit_feuer> bephantom, how do you tweak the settings for compiz?
[01:14] <Genolo> I need some serious help fixing world of warcraft in wine; the main issue being the ground is red
[01:15] <spiel_mit_feuer> uuh.. what?
[01:15] <BePhantom> spiel_mit_feuer there's a compiz manager
[01:15] <Jordan_U> spiel_mit_feuer, The metacity --replace is just so that if compiz fails you won't be left without a window manager
[01:15] <spiel_mit_feuer> whats the name of it?
[01:15] <anthony_> genolo: is ur graphics card strong enough to do WoW
[01:15] <iceroot> BePhantom: hm, sounds strange
[01:15] <Genolo> anthony_: i think so since when this was a vista and not running ubuntu it ran fine
[01:16] <iceroot> BePhantom: look at xfce4 it looks like gnoome but its smaller
[01:16] <anthony_> Check the Wine AppDB
[01:16] <BePhantom> spiel_mit_feuer compiz advanced manager i think, i dont remember search for compiz in add remove
[01:16] <noIdeasOriginal> is MarkJones still here?
[01:16] <EoL{s}> I have a question about dual booting ubuntu and windows Vista. Does resizing the Windows Partition erase its contents?
[01:16] <BePhantom> iceroot yes it does look like gnome but i like nautilus better
[01:16] <TheFunkbomb> I fixed it.  MarkJones, I had to remove notification manager, put the speaker back up and put notification manager back up
[01:17] <BePhantom> iceroot as file manager i mean
[01:17] <spiel_mit_feuer> compizconfig-settings-manager?
[01:17] <anthony_> genolo: Check the Wine AppDB for WoW
[01:17] <dan76> how do I go to runlevel 2?
[01:17] <iceroot> BePhantom: yes thats right
[01:17] <Genolo> anthony_: where?
[01:17] <BePhantom> spiel_mit_feuer yes, and there's a simple manager for really easy tweaking
[01:17] <MarkJones> TheFunkbomb: cool glad i could help
[01:17] <noIdeasOriginal> so is anyone aware of the issue with ubuntu and nvidia geforce?
[01:18] <anthony_> genolo: go to appdb.winehq.com
[01:18] <macman> guys .. i just intsall ubuntu-restricted-extras and i still have no flash .. any ideas ?
[01:18] <spiel_mit_feuer> hmm
[01:18] <spiel_mit_feuer> i have wobbly windows now
[01:18] <reconman> irc://irc.rizon.net/libble.com
[01:19] <spiel_mit_feuer> wtf is this? ctrl+super?
[01:19] <spiel_mit_feuer> what is super?
[01:19] <MarkJones> super=windows key
[01:19] <daftykins> windows key
[01:19] <zKai> window key
[01:19] <iceroot> spiel_mit_feuer: windows-key
[01:19] <noIdeasOriginal> -sigh
[01:19] <BePhantom> spiel_mit_feuer there's a "simple compizconfig settings manager" it's very good!
[01:19] <MarkJones> lol everyone knew that but you. :)
[01:19] <spiel_mit_feuer> yay.. i have the rain effects again
[01:20] <dan76> macman: make sure you don't have swfdec installed also
[01:20] <spiel_mit_feuer> uh oh.. too much rain.. i cant see
[01:20] <theTroll> windows for the win, agreed?
[01:20] <daftykins> no.
[01:20] <spiel_mit_feuer> oops
[01:20] <macman> i don't dan76
[01:20] <noIdeasOriginal> hey MarkJones... i don't know what else to do
[01:20] <noIdeasOriginal> the cd checked out fine
[01:20] <spiel_mit_feuer> umm.. how do i tone down the rain effect so it isnt so blurry?
[01:20] <MarkJones> I dont either
[01:21] <dan76> macman: go into synaptic and type "flash" and tell me what is installed
[01:21] <daftykins> !compiz | spiel_mit_feuer
[01:21] <BePhantom> iceroot does wicd work in kde? if i install it in kde will i be able to use it in gnome again?
[01:21] <noIdeasOriginal> well thanks though for the help
[01:21] <anthony_> Genolo: What version of WoW is it?
[01:21] <Dreamglider> i have tried three video editing programs (kino, piviti  and cinelerra) all stop responding and i have to force them to shut down, i have 8.10 running on 2GHz coreduo 2Gb ram
[01:21] <noIdeasOriginal> and thanks for your time
[01:21] <behappy> top command give me Bus Error what is this mean ??
[01:21] <iceroot> BePhantom: sorry dont know what wicd is
[01:21] <BePhantom> iceroot no problem :)
[01:21] <Rob235> yo, i know this is a total noob question but how do you turn off aliases in pidgin
[01:21] <daftykins> maybe your system isn't stable then Dreamglider
[01:22] <Genolo> anthony_: 24
[01:22] <Genolo> anthony_ 2.4*
[01:22] <spiel_mit_feuer> i figured it out
[01:22] <spiel_mit_feuer> i can see fine now
[01:22] <macman> wierd .. its working
[01:22] <daftykins> restarted firefox eh macman?
[01:22] <anthony_> genolo: ok. hold on
[01:23] <newmember> \join openbsd
[01:23] <dan76> macman: maybe you just needed to clear out the cache and restart
[01:23] <MarkJones> Do they call Pidgin problems Pidgin poop? That would be funny.
[01:23] <Dreamglider> daftykins: system is pretty stable. runs great, just those video editing prog's that cause some conflict/errors
[01:23] <MarkJones> Ok im outa here.Bye everyone.
[01:23] <theTroll> vim is the best word processor
[01:24] <ErgyJB> How do I remove the irc updates?
[01:24] <lstarnes> ErgyJB: irc updates?
[01:24] <ErgyJB> like when people join the chat room and such
[01:24] <lstarnes> ErgyJB: which client are you using?
[01:24] <lunaphyte> hi.
[01:25] <ErgyJB> Colloquy on a mac :-o
[01:25] <lstarnes> ErgyJB: I'm not sure how to do it in colloquy or if it can be done in that client
[01:25] <lunaphyte> is there a recommended gui for adding additional disks to fstab, or is this still generally done from a shell?
[01:25] <spiel_mit_feuer> i dont get this.. shift+super+button 1...
[01:25] <anthony_> genolo: Wine and WoW are more graphics intensive than WoW and Vista. But I dont know why the ground is red. What's ur graphics card?
[01:26] <ErgyJB> ok then let me use X-cht-aqua
[01:26] <Genolo> anthony_: intel shit
[01:26] <anthony_> genolo: Laptop or gesktop?
[01:26] <anthony_> genolo: Laptop or desktop*
[01:26] <Genolo> anthony_: laptop
[01:28] <anthony_> genolo: I had the same prob with google earth. I just don't think wine&WoW are compatible with intel mobile cards. U can only use WoW and Vista. Srry
[01:28] <Genolo> anthony_: that's weird since like everything else is the right color besides grass
[01:29] <anthony_> genolo: well if u can live with that than go ahead!
[01:29] <Genolo> going to have to i guess
[01:29] <Genolo> :x
[01:30] <dreamy> i get no sound when playng an avi movie and the same when playng a mp4 one
[01:30] <dan76> the stuff contained in /etc/rc2.d....are those scripts?
[01:30] <Guest28464> hey I was wondering if someone could help me, I just installed Ubuntu and I noticed I'm missing pretty much an entire hard drive. I'm pretty sure Ubuntu is running off a partition right now so how would I be able to find the rest of the hard drive and the other whole hard drive?
[01:30] <Guest28464> my second HD isn't showing up on the places tab
[01:30] <lstarnes> dan76: they're links to scripts in /etc/init.d/
[01:31] <dan76> istarnes: how would I go about seeing what is being run...I am trying to figure out how to restart my networking
[01:31] <lstarnes> dan76: sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart
[01:31] <aetherfish> hey can someone help me with some printer issues? I can't print from openoffice but everything else seems to work
[01:32] <lstarnes> dan76: its script is /etc/init.d/networking
[01:32] <dan76> Istarnes: will try
[01:32] <bassliner> hmhm
[01:32] <bassliner> [armin@dss:~] apt-cache search bitchx
[01:32] <bassliner> pork - Console-based AOL Instant Messenger & IRC client
[01:32] <bassliner> [armin@dss:~]
[01:32] <FloodBot1> bassliner: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:32] <dan76> Istarnes: hmm so typing /etc/init.d/networking restart would do the same thing?
[01:32] <bassliner> did they really remove bitchx from the repositories?
[01:32] <jrib> !bitchx | bassliner
[01:33] <lstarnes> dan76: you would need sudo before it, but yes
[01:33] <bassliner> jrib: i'm using irssi since almost a decade, i'm just wondering what's going on there hehe :)
[01:33] <jrib> bassliner: the link explains
[01:33] <mhilinski> hi everyone
[01:33] <smerz> hello mhilinski
[01:34] <bassliner> jrib: thanks :)
[01:34] <mhilinski> i got the headphone problem fixed now i have an application problem
[01:34] <andreaz> hey there
[01:35] <mhilinski> hi
[01:35] <dan76> Istarnes: hmm, thats not working..Its doing something at start up that its not doing in that script
[01:35] <mhilinski> in picasa can i scan an image?/
[01:35] <dreamy> (Got not sound watching videos )
[01:35] <andreaz> is it possible to ask for help here?
[01:36] <lstarnes> andreaz: help with what?
[01:36] <mhilinski> any one have any ideas?
[01:36] <andreaz> i need help with my ati xpress 200m on intrepid ibex:/
[01:36] <LjL> !ati
[01:37] <dan76> Istarnes: shouldn't there be some output to messages log when you invoke that script?
[01:37] <bassliner> jrib: there have been fixes released for all 3 reported vulnerabilities in debian tho...
[01:37] <dreamy> !Mp4
[01:37] <lstarnes> dan76: check dmesg (also, use an L, not an i)
[01:37] <andreaz> well in fact i have just a question
[01:38] <jert> has anyone upgraded to 8.10 and lost the network manager?
[01:38] <ugliefrog> does anyone know of a free digital photo analysis software for ubuntu....I couldnt find any plugins for the gimp
[01:38] <slhawkins> Hello
[01:38] <andreaz> my driver should be ok
[01:38] <dan76> lstarnes: L got it...hehe
[01:38] <jrib> bassliner: take it up with debian :)
[01:38] <andreaz> but I cant get gnome effects without getting the system really slow
[01:38] <mhilinski> any one have an ideas on my issue i need a reply please reply to me
[01:38] <smerz> mhilinski: what do you mean with scan an image and picasa?
[01:38] <jpnub> anyone know a good scanning utility for ubuntu??
[01:38] <smerz> you want to scan an image and then upload it?
[01:39] <TopBunny98>   
[01:39] <jpnub> haha same question
[01:39] <dan76> lstarnes: it says eth0 is not ready
[01:39] <bassliner> jrib: i even run ubuntu on 3 of my servers and if there's one program that would definitely NOT be a reason to switch back to debian from ubuntu server it's bitch-x :)
[01:39] <EagleScreen> jpnub you have xsane or kooka
[01:39] <usser> jpnub, kooka
[01:40] <bassliner> jrib: but nevermind, was just interested in what's going on there, my old irc days started with bx so i'm kindof in a retro mood when i see it hehe
[01:40] <jpnub> xsane i think
[01:40] <jrib> bassliner: the reason it's not in ubuntu, is purely because it's not in debian
[01:40] <mhilinski> what i mean by that is i would like to know if i can scan an image and resize it all in the same application
[01:40] <lstarnes> dan76: I'm not sure what to do for that
[01:40] <dan76> lstarnes: poop
[01:41] <lstarnes> dan76: check the output of sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:41] <andreaz> is anyone going to help me :)?
[01:41] <smerz> mhilinski: I dont know if you can do it within the scanning program itself (i must be honest, i haven't operated a scanner under linux (yet))
[01:41] <dan76> in dmesg?
[01:41] <bassliner> jrib: well all 3 bugs had a "fix released" on their CVE tracker pages, does that still mean bx will never re-appear in debian's repo?
[01:41] <lstarnes> andreaz: how much ram do you have?
[01:41] <ubuntunoobneedin> mhlinski xsane will do what you need
[01:41] <lstarnes> dan76: no, in the terminal
[01:41] <andreaz> 1G :/
[01:41] <smerz> mhilinski: but there are dozens of programs you could use to resize images, most likely the scanning program itself should have such functionality
[01:41] <lstarnes> andreaz: what about cpu?
[01:41] <bassliner> jrib: maybe my understanding of things is wrong there or something
[01:41] <noIdeasOriginal> ok last try... would updating BIOS or nvidia geforce stuff make the 64bit or 32bit ubuntu finally install?
[01:42] <jrib> bassliner: it probably just depends on someone being willing to maintain it
[01:42] <andreaz> hm intel dual core, i think around 1.8Ghz
[01:42] <dan76> lstarnes: it just says reconfiguring network interfaces...thats it
[01:42] <bassliner> jrib: noone really should be willing to maintain bitch-x *lol*
[01:42] <lstarnes> dan76: are you using dhcp?
[01:42] <keepsake> Hey, anyone know how to turn on selective ACKs?
[01:43] <noIdeasOriginal> ?
[01:43] <bassliner> jrib: nevermind, thanks in advance.
[01:43] <dan76> lstarnes: dhcp, yep..but I think its more basic then that..I don't think its sensing the card on start up everytime
[01:43] <noIdeasOriginal> i guess this newly built pc is not compatible
[01:43] <mhilinski> can you recommand an application so that i can download it and install it a resizeing application
[01:43] <smerz> keepsake: selective ACKs? do you mean this in a networking enviroment? (TCP ACKs?)
[01:44] <usser> mhilinski, gimp
[01:44] <jert> is there a certain way to get the network manager to come up?  ive upgraded to 8.10 from 8.04 and its gone even after reboots
[01:44] <keepsake> smerz: Yes.
[01:44] <smerz> mhilinski: just for resizing images?
[01:44] <mhilinski> yes
[01:44] <smerz> hmm let me find a "simple one"
[01:44] <mhilinski> what can i‎for?/
[01:44] <smerz> i have some complex ones in mind
[01:44] <andreaz> Istarnes;can we have a private chat?would be better
[01:45] <Shivam> whats a good program on Ubuntu to use a VPN
[01:45] <smerz> keepsake: normal linux firewalling functionality does not work for you?
[01:45] <lstarnes> andreaz: what about your graphics card?
[01:45] <mhilinski> what can i use picasa 3 for?
[01:45] <andreaz> Ati Xpress 200m, 128 dedicated, 256 shared
[01:45] <usser> Shivam, do you need a compatible one? ie do you already have vpn network to connect to?
[01:45] <Shivam> i have one to connect to already
[01:46] <smerz> mhilinski: Picasa (from Google) is only a platform to share pictures with. please correct me if i missunderstood you
[01:46] <lstarnes> andreaz: I'm not sure how good that is for visual effects
[01:46] <andreaz> hm
[01:46] <keepsake> smerz: What do you mean? I wanted to turn on SACKs to make my router a bit easier faster, since I'm getting a lot of retransmitted packets.
[01:46] <Shivam> nevermind I'm an idiot, got it off add/remove applications
[01:47] <andreaz> Istarnes:so proberly the problem is on hardware power?
[01:47] <usser> Shivam, what does it use? ipsec?
[01:47] <mhilinski> you were right
[01:47] <usser> Shivam, technically network manager can do most vpn stuff
[01:47] <smerz> keepsake: apparrently my networking knowledge is not as good as yours :D. But for firewalling/routing purposes I really like shorewall, I don't know if that helps you at all though
[01:47] <lstarnes> andreaz: I don't know
[01:47] <usser> Shivam, u just have to install a vpn plugin for it
[01:47] <Shivam> oh
[01:47] <keepsake> smerz: Haha, thanks anyway =)
[01:47] <jpnub> Picasa is an image organization and editing tool as well as a web photo system
[01:47] <andreaz> Istarnes:ok..can I ask another question to you?
[01:47] <lstarnes> andreaz: for performance reasons I usually don't use visual effects
[01:48] <usser> Shivam, network-manager-vpnc or network-manager-openvpn
[01:48] <lstarnes> andreaz: just ask the question.  You do not need permission to ask questions here
[01:48] <mhilinski> what kind of linux resizing applications are there behides gimp
[01:48] <smerz> mhilinski: i'm just downloading/testing some. it's trial and error for me too ;-D. one moment please
[01:49] <andreaz> Istarnes:thank you..Im IT student in Padova and I would like to get involved in developement
[01:49] <mhilinski> ok
[01:49] <lstarnes> andreaz: the first letter of my nick is an L, not an i
[01:49] <andreaz> Istarnes : ROFL
[01:50] <stealth-> how can i read the mail cron send me?
[01:50] <stealth-> *sends
[01:50] <usser> stealth-, with a mail command
[01:50] <Shivam> usser: I'm downloading the vpnc daemon
[01:50] <smerz> mhilinski: just resize or resize and cut/crop?
[01:50] <stealth-> usser: oh. thanks, i thought it would be in a directory or something.
[01:50] <s0|> hello, I am wanting to back up my laptop to a windows share on my local net. to test I am trying just one dir, before I do the whole thing, my attempt at a command is "tar -cjvf //username@192.168.1.106/sharename/mybackup.tar.bz2 /home/myusername/desktop"    this is not working since it can't write to the SMB... however I am able to see the smb share just find via the gui?  what can I do
[01:50] <andreaz> lstarnes:anyway, is there any website explaining clearly what i do need and who i should get in touch with?
[01:51] <usser> stealth-, or just plaintext files in /var/mail/yourusername
[01:51] <lstarnes> andreaz: I'm not sure
[01:51] <mhilinski> are you still looking smerzjustt resize and crop
[01:51] <smerz> mhilinski: i just installed "mtpaint"
[01:51] <smerz> it looks like a simple version of a picture editor
[01:51] <stealth-> usser: whats the mail command, btw?
[01:52] <usser> s0|, thats not how you do it
[01:52] <andreaz> lstarnes:are you here as helper, developer, or user as me?
[01:52] <usser> stealth-, its an text-mode email client
[01:52] <smerz> mhilinski: yep try "mtpaint" looks good for the job :)
[01:52] <s0|> usser, I gather since it isn't working ;P
[01:52] <usser> s0|, you need smbfs package, sudo apt-get install smbfs
[01:52] <smerz> mhilinski: sudo apt-get install mtpaint
[01:52] <lstarnes> andreaz: I am just a regular user
[01:52] <stealth-> usser: also, my /var/mail directory is empty :|
[01:52] <usser> s0|, then you need to mount the share, sudo mount -t cifs //server/share /mountpoint -o user=yourusername
[01:52] <andreaz> lstarnes:ah..ok
[01:52] <s0|> usser, even though the gui can see it fine without? odd I will attempt
[01:53] <stealth-> usser: but the program obviously ran because I can see the results
[01:53] <usser> s0|, gui does a lot of magic
[01:53] <s0|> usser, have noticed
[01:53] <andreaz> lstarnes: im sorry then..i red somewhere people can join as helper in IRC chats :/
[01:53] <s0|> usser, automagic is nice and curse sometimes
[01:53] <usser> s0|, once you mounted the share you can use it as if it was a local directory ie tar -cvf /mountpoint/archive.tar.gz /pathtoarchive
[01:54] <stealth-> andreaz: people who help here have no special status, as far as the freenode system cares, were considered regular users
[01:54] <smerz> andreaz: nothing wrong with that. You can try and help right here right now. :)
[01:54] <usser> stealth-, hm, on the second thought is it mail command?
[01:54] <dan76> hey what is 'pan' as in pan0
[01:54] <[[Male]]-----> ........ :S :S :S
[01:54] <stealth-> andreaz: well I shouldnt say "were" cause I usually get more help than I give :P
[01:54] <s0|> usser, thank you I will see if I can get that working
[01:54] <usser> stealth-, im not sure actually
[01:55] <[[Male]]----->  HUH? im lost :U :D :D
[01:55] <stealth-> usser: sudo: mail: command not found
[01:55] <renatoNerlock> lol ... ue .. tem alguem awe .. brasileiro .. lol ...
[01:55] <[[Male]]-----> is there someone who speaks spanish ? xD
[01:55] <renatoNerlock> vish .. yes
[01:56] <stealth-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Male-----: there is a spanish support channel
[01:56] <mhilinski> thank you for all your help
[01:56] <[[Male]]-----> thanks ;) :D
[01:56] <stealth-> !spanish | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Male-----
[01:56] <KoKoRiKo> Good evening here
[01:56] <racecar56> im back
[01:56] <iceroot> KoKoRiKo: hi
[01:56] <usser> hm wtf?
[01:56] <KoKoRiKo> I cannot boot in Init 3, I keep getting the login screen , any hints appreciated
[01:56] <stealth-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Male-----: dont use that adress from my first post, i dont know why its in there :S
[01:56] <[[Male]]-----> By the way im a girl :)
[01:56] <s0|> usser, I am afraid it will not mount, I am assuming I need to additionaly specifiy the password? how might I do that?
[01:57] <dan76> hey what device is 'pan' as in pan0 ?
[01:57] <renatoNerlock> y love JOJO  aehaiuehauieha
[01:57] <renatoNerlock> kkkk
[01:57] <KoKoRiKo> couldnt get any help on googling
[01:57] <usser> s0|, it will prompt you for the password, if the username is valid and server and share exist
[01:57] <xerxes> How do i install the tor-router on jaunty?
[01:57] <lstarnes> xerxes: sudo apt-get install tor
[01:57] <usser> s0|, use ip instead of the name
[01:57] <[[Male]]----->  :|
[01:57] <s0|> usser, I have
[01:57] <lstarnes> !es | [[Male]]-----
[01:58] <renatoNerlock> staff is to put video at the bottom of the workspace in ubutun?
[01:58] <xerxes> aptitude doesnt find a candidate version
[01:58] <KoKoRiKo> Any help guys ?
[01:58] <lstarnes> stealth-: you might want to fix whatever script that is
[01:58] <lstarnes> xerxes: do you have the universe repository enabled?
[01:58] <usser> s0|, sure the sharename is correct?
[01:58] <smerz> KoKoRiKo: whats your problem? you cant login after booting runlevel 3?
[01:58] <syntax\> is there anyway to use two different dns servers? 1 is an intranet dns(192.168.x.x) and the other is a dsl dns server(55.x.x.x)?
[01:58] <aprilhare> i run vidalia and tor but tor starts at startup, fails, then vidalia detects tor already running and dies when i run it during login - is there a way to make tor not start on startup?
[01:58] <xerxes> how do i do so, lstarnes?
[01:59] <s0|> looking at in the gui ( which says SMB://user@192.168.1.106/share/ )
[01:59] <stealth-> lstarnes: it doesn't appear to be broken. Its a fairly simple backup script with no piping or any rerouting of stout and such
[01:59] <racecar56> im using ubuntu 8.10 and it won't let me install the ati radeon fglrx driver, the hardware drivers thingy says for a millisecond that it's downloading & installing driver, but when it disappears it still says the driver isn't enabled.
[01:59] <KoKoRiKo> smerz not really , I can boot in init1 but when i type telinit 3 it takes me to the login screen i need a non graghical mode
[01:59] <syntax\> because as checked on over and over, i can only use one in the resolv.conf
[01:59] <usser> s0|, so the command would be sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.106/share /mnt -o user=user
[01:59] <usser> s0|, did u install smbfs?
[01:59] <s0|> which fails to mount
[02:00] <smerz> KoKoRiKo: you could just switch to a text console by using CTRL+ALT+F2. But that doesnt help you right? You need to disable the graphical interface in runlevel3 if you dont want it
[02:00] <xerxes> Yes, I think I have the universe repository enabled, lstarnes
[02:00] <stealth-> lstarnes: I think i'll try piping the output to a file so I can see if that helps any. Thanks for your help
[02:00] <syntax\> i mean one, if i was to use the intranet dns its only fixated to the intranet. if i was to use the world ip dns its fixated to the world ip
[02:00] <lstarnes> xerxes: I'm not sure if that package is in jaunty.  try asking about it in #ubuntu+1
[02:00] <KoKoRiKo> smerz indeed, i need to disable the gui on level3 , any idea how to ?
[02:01] <smerz> not from the top of my head
[02:01] <smerz> but i'll find it out real quick
[02:01] <xerxes> thanx, lstanes
[02:01] <xerxes> lstarnes
[02:01] <foooo> Question: What I write two lines like "ffmpeg -i input.mpg <options> output.mp4" for example only the first line gets executed, it's like I didn't paste another line below the first. I'm thinking this is a ubuntu specific question because ffmpeg documentation shows examples like this working.
[02:01] <ianm_> is it possible to have a wacom NOT move the mouse cursor but still be available to apps via xinput ?
[02:01] <KoKoRiKo> smerz if I attempt to kill x server i will get a blank screen and the system hangs
[02:01] <s0|> usser, I was able to isntall smbfs successfully.
[02:02] <KoKoRiKo> im running ubuntu 7.10 gusty
[02:02] <usser> s0|, try to mount it
[02:02] <smerz> but you could switch to a text console right?
[02:02] <s0|> usser, (before I attempted the mount)
[02:02] <KoKoRiKo> smerz No I cannot
[02:02] <KoKoRiKo> I seems that only it is possible in level1
[02:02] <KoKoRiKo> level 3 takes me to the login screen
[02:02] <usser> foooo, you cant paste multiple lines in the terminal and expect it to work, try executing them one by one or separate them with &&
[02:02] <smerz> well im in the GUI now. and i could switch to a text console by pressing CTRL+ALT+F2
[02:02] <KoKoRiKo> Ive been googling for an answer since a week and no luck
[02:02] <usser> s0|, does it say anything, any error messages? can you ping that ip?
[02:03] <KoKoRiKo> smerz yes I know that it is possible but I believe nvidia driver screwed up everything
[02:03] <smerz> hmm
[02:03] <foooo> If I write something like "for input in *.mpg; do ffmpeg -i "$input" <options> "$output"; done"; This doesn't work either. And it SHOULD work in a script but it doesn't.
[02:03] <s0|> usser, pinging the ip works, just says it can't change dir to mount target
[02:04] <smerz> so basically you are unable right now you cannot to switch to a text console (by CTRL+ALT+F1    not F2) ?
[02:04] <KoKoRiKo> smerz,  exactly
[02:04] <smerz> thats why you cant it gone in runlevel 3
[02:04] <smerz> makes sense
[02:04] <KoKoRiKo> yes
[02:04] <smerz> yeah let me google that. can't remember how to ammend that
[02:04] <usser> s0|, what do you mean? does the mount command ever finish? are you attempting to cd to the mount point and it fails?
[02:04] <KoKoRiKo> smerz thank you
[02:05] <smerz> KoKoRiKo: apt-get install rcconf
[02:05] <foooo> One file finishes it looks perfect with no noticeable problems except the script doesn't continue onto the next file.
[02:05] <smerz> i would recommend disabling GUI in runlevel 2
[02:05] <cjae> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_T-DOishkk     -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX7Z4tTx67s  -> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/21/proposed-heavy-restrictions-internet-freedoms/
[02:05] <smerz> and set default to 3
[02:05] <usser> foooo, pastebin the script, any error messages?
[02:05] <starfruit> how to create a 802.1q on my nic interface? eth0
[02:05] <_chun> I'm having trouble getting open-office to open .doc files in firefox (not opening a new office window) -- I have the mozilla-openoffice.org plugin installed, and it works just fine for .odt files. I've tried setting the plugin for doc files in preferences>applications, pointing it towards the .so plugin file, but it refuses to open the files in the browser. any help?
[02:06] <smerz> if you want to do it manually you can ammend scripts in /etc/init.d/rc2 (remove GUI startup here)
[02:06] <KoKoRiKo> smerz,  i disable the gui with rcconf ?
[02:06] <smerz> and add/move it to /etc/init.d/rc3
[02:06] <KoKoRiKo> ahh
[02:06] <s0|> usser, after I hit enter for "mount -t cifs //192.168.1.106/share /mnt -o user=user" the line after immdetetly comes up and says "mount error: can not change directory into mount target /mnt "
[02:06] <foooo> No error messages I tried #!/bin/bash -x; I'll pastebin it for more information.
[02:06] <smerz> rcconf should be a GUI tool to do the job for you easier
[02:06] <usser> s0|, try with sudo?
[02:06] <starfruit> _chun, do you mean launch open office from firefox or open it with in firefox?
[02:06] <usser> s0|, does /mnt exist?
[02:07] <s0|> usser, that was w/ sudo
[02:07] <s0|> or rather after "sudo su"
[02:07] <usser> s0|, does ls / | grep mnt say anything?
[02:07] <smerz> KoKoRiKo: ok apparrently that tool is very limited :(
[02:08] <s0|> usser, yes it says mnt
[02:08] <KoKoRiKo> smerz,  yes I noticed so
[02:08] <smerz> i know there is a better one out there
[02:08] <usser> s0|, do this mkdir ~/backup
[02:08] <FFEMTcJ> I'm trying to setup tightvncserver using xfce4 as the desktop... all that i get when i open the remote desktop is an orange background and a x term window... what am i doing wrong that isnt allowing me to see anything else?
[02:08] <KoKoRiKo> /etc/init.d/rc2 does not exist on my system smerz
[02:08] <usser> s0|, and change the mount command to point to that
[02:08] <foooo> usser: http://pastebin.com/m1a49f82c
[02:08] <lstarnes> KoKoRiKo: /etc/rc2.d
[02:09] <KoKoRiKo> ok thanks lstarnes
[02:09] <smerz> yeah my mistake
[02:09] <Rob235> man i really cant figure this out, how do you disable alias/nicknames in pidgin
[02:10] <nA1828KcFz9q> hello, if i use startx, i do not have sound ?
[02:10] <KoKoRiKo> smerz,  S50screen in rc2.d ?
[02:10] <_chun> starfruit: within firefox. I know it's possible, since it works fine for odt files, just can't seem to enable it for doc files
[02:10] <hax0r1337> Hi guys, I have 2PCs with 2 NICs, I used 2nd NIC for crossover connection, on each of them I ran 'ifconfig eth1 192.168.21.100 netmask 255.255.255.0' & 'ifconfig eth1 192.168.21.101 netmask 255.255.255.0', and then routed using: 'route add -host 192.168.21.1 dev eth1' and brought them up with 'ifconfig eth1 up', however the LEDs on NICs aren't even lit, those commands worked for me before.
[02:11] <smerz> KoKoRiKo: good question. I think it's Xserver
[02:11] <IfTrueElseFalse> how do i find a repository that hosts java?
[02:11] <KoKoRiKo> cd ..
[02:11] <KoKoRiKo> oups
[02:12] <s0|> usser, ok, now saw I want to back up "/" do I need to exclude this to aviod backing up the remote dir as well?
[02:12] <Shivam> Okay I have VPN server address user and pass, I need help accessing it with my Ubuntu
[02:12] <KoKoRiKo> smerz,  there is no Xserver thing in rc2.d
[02:12] <usser> s0|, yes i believe tar has an --exclude option
[02:12] <Rofl-> Does ndiswrapper work with 8.10?
[02:12] <nassrat> hi, under gnome ssh-askpass pops up whenever needed even from inside gnome-terminal. But under kde ssh-askpass only pops up when there is no terminal (as the ssh-add docs say). How do I make KDE more like gnome
[02:12] <usser> s0|, but you can't backup live filesystems you need to do all that from livecd
[02:12] <smerz> KoKoRiKo: yeah it has to be one of them though :LD
[02:13] <IfTrueElseFalse> Shivam: ssh?
[02:13] <s0|> ........
[02:13] <KoKoRiKo> smerz, hehe
[02:13] <Shivam> i can do that?
[02:13] <foooo> usser: After the "read input" it exits even tho there's a file it should be reading which is 20 lines long aprox.
[02:13] <s0|> usser, thank you for pointing that out.
[02:13] <smerz> KoKoRiKo: probalby S90single
[02:13] <KoKoRiKo> smerz,  maybe S10xserver-xorg-input-wacom ?
[02:14] <s0|> I suppose the fact I only want to preserv the vpn settings I labored away getting to ****'ing work on the command line is worth backing up the whole drive with dd anyways
[02:14] <smerz> hmm im just looking. I'm in runlevel 2 right now
[02:14] <usser> foooo, well i see that in all cases that it skips the ffmpeg command if [ -f $output ] actually returns true
[02:14] <smerz> and the gui starts at the end so
[02:14] <KoKoRiKo> thanks
[02:14] <IfTrueElseFalse> Shivam: ssh root@123.45.67.890
[02:14] <keepsake> Anyone know how to set MTU? I tried to change some of my settings, and it reset MTU to 1480 >__<
[02:14] <usser> foooo, which means files its trying to output to already exist so it skips them
[02:14] <Shivam> yeah got it thanks
[02:15] <usser> foooo, line 17 in your pastebin for example
[02:15] <usser> foooo, check that this files isnt already there
[02:15] <KoKoRiKo> smerz, would file-rc help ?
[02:15] <foooo> usser: That was just one file tho it's part of script, but there's like 20 lines! It should be continuing.
[02:15] <keepsake> Also, anyone know how to reset sysctl.conf values to default?
[02:15] <smerz> KoKoRiKo: dunno
[02:16] <smerz> KoKoRiKo: apparrently it's "gdm" https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-July/087620.html
[02:16] <IfTrueElseFalse> where can i find a repository to check out java with aptitude?
[02:16] <usser> foooo, does the same thing on line 22
[02:16] <LjL> !java > IfTrueElseFalse    (IfTrueElseFalse, see the private message from ubottu)
[02:16] <usser> foooo, it just skips the rest of the loop cause files are already there
[02:16] <usser> foooo, same files or files with the same name
[02:16] <smerz> KoKoRiKo: so changing default runlevel to 3 and removing S30gdm from startup in runlevel2 could be a solution
[02:17] <IfTrueElseFalse> thanks LjL
[02:17] <KoKoRiKo> smerz im looing into that please hold on
[02:17] <Luna_chan> does anyone know how to install files onto an ubuntu using computer??
[02:18] <racecar56> Luna_chan, whaa?
[02:18] <bassliner> Luna_chan: we're all just using nintendo gameboy's.
[02:18] <squidly> how can I tell the status of a deamon started by from an init script?
[02:19] <Luna_chan> um say what?
[02:19] <phoenixz> I need a crontab program to be executed every minute, 1 * * * * seems to do it only once every hour.. How do I specify every minute?
[02:19]  * usser gets by with a stone tablet
[02:19] <racecar56> does 8.10 work with a radeon 9500?
[02:19] <stew> phoenixz: * * * * *
[02:19]  * nassrat hating ssh-askpass
[02:19] <bassliner> phoenixz: replace the 1 with a *
[02:19] <smerz> KoKoRiKo: this link seems to pretty much describe what you want http://stackoverflow.com/questions/78408/how-do-i-change-default-runlevel-in-ubuntu
[02:20] <tritium> !runlevels | KoKoRiKo
[02:20] <wgrant> racecar56: Yes, with full 3D acceleration by default.
[02:20] <racecar56> wgrant, woot
[02:20] <Luna_chan> i am officialy confused...
[02:20] <foooo> usser: Yea, that's because I've run the script multiple times to finish some of the files but it always exits once ffmpeg gets executed it can't read another line. It's very strange, been using bash forever like years and I'm stumped.
[02:20] <phoenixz> stew: bassliner: thanks!
[02:21] <KoKoRiKo> tritium, so what do u suggest ?
[02:21] <wgrant> squidly: Many initscripts (at least in Intrepid and later, and more in Jaunty) have a 'status' action. Some of those will indicate the status in their exit code, others (like PostgreSQL's) will also print more detailed information.
[02:21] <tritium> KoKoRiKo: I only caught smerz' comment to you, and thought I'd share that info.  What are you trying to accomplish?
[02:21] <blap> can someone please help me setup my samba username and password?
[02:21] <squidly> wgrant: yea I konw. I would like to see it all in once like gentoo's rc-staus
[02:21] <starfruit> where is network config file for eth0 and wlan0?
[02:21] <KoKoRiKo> tritium, i cannot run level 3 without gui
[02:22] <KoKoRiKo> tritium,  i keep getting the login screen
[02:22] <brandon_> hey guys i have a flash disk type thing, and it only mounts as read only, anyway to fix this?
[02:22] <phoenixz> Luna_chan: you may start with rephrasing your question, it officially confuses us..
[02:22] <tritium> KoKoRiKo: what do you want level 3 for?
[02:22] <lstarnes> starfruit: /etc/network/interfaces
[02:22] <squidly> starfruit: /etc/network/interfaces
[02:22] <nassrat> yeah debian doesnt have the notion of runlevels
[02:22] <lstarnes> nassrat: it does
[02:22] <eseven73> Would it hurt my LAMP setup if I install today's LAMP updates? I'm using Ubuntu Server Edition and I really don't want to screw things up
[02:22] <wgrant> lstarnes: It does, but they're not used like they are in Red Hat derivative.s
[02:22] <starfruit> lstarnes, squidly i don't see wlan0 and eth0
[02:22] <nassrat> lstarnes: i mean like runlevel 3
[02:22] <starfruit> only loop back
[02:22] <KoKoRiKo> tritium, I need to install my Nvidia driver and I need to kill x server and when I do so I get a blank screen and the system freezes
[02:22] <squidly> starfruit: you make to make them
[02:23] <squidly> !interfaces | starfruit
[02:23] <starfruit> ok
[02:23] <kindofabuzz> eseven73, it's not like they don't test everything. but that's your choice. i'd definatly do any security updates
[02:23] <lstarnes> nassrat: by default, runlevels 2-5 are configured to use the same settings
[02:23] <squidly> starfruit: man interfaces
[02:23] <wgrant> starfruit: In a default desktop installation, network configuration is performed through NetworkManager. See SYstem->Preferences->Network Connections.
[02:23] <toddnorcross> I'm incredibly new to ubuntu.  I've only used Suse, and that was about two years ago
[02:23] <foooo> usser; it continues the first two times then when it makes it past the condition it runs ffmpeg and doesn't read another line. Any ideas? Is this Ubuntu specific since the ffmpeg documentation shows multiple executions of ffmpeg similarly?
[02:23] <toddnorcross> I've got some installation questions that I'm hoping someone can answer for me
[02:23] <wgrant> eseven73: We are *very* conservative in what we put in updates to stable releases. You should test on a non-production box first, but Ubuntu updates are generally very safe.
[02:23] <eseven73> kindofabuzz, yeah im just paranoid about updates, 90% of the time they screw things up
[02:23] <nassrat> lstarnes: what i mean is there is no way of easily switching back and forth from gui to non gui using runlevels. Which IMHO is a valid runlevel
[02:23] <tritium> KoKoRiKo: all you need to do to install nvidia drivers is "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx", or use System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers.  No need for runlevel modifications.
[02:24] <usser> foooo, let me actually test with actual video files hang on
[02:24] <eseven73> ok
[02:24] <eseven73> ty
[02:24] <blap> can someone please help me setup my samba username and password so I can view my files on a other windows machine on my network?
[02:24] <psychic> how do i force quit pidgin
[02:24] <psychic> ?
[02:24] <zaza> hi there, i got problem with ubuntu 64bit
[02:24] <kindofabuzz> eseven73, that's why you should do backups regularly =)
[02:24] <starfruit> wgrant, u mean gui for /etc/network/interfaces ...
[02:24] <lstarnes> nassrat: you can have gdm/kdm/whatever load up only on certain runlevels
[02:24] <nassrat> lstarnes: what do you mean by default. so i can change that
[02:24] <eseven73> yeah I do but still
[02:24] <zaza> the problem is when i'm booting there are noisy sound
[02:24] <KoKoRiKo> tritium,  I am installing nvidia drivers from the website they are up todate now
[02:24] <toddnorcross> can someone help me get ubuntu installed on a 32bit pc?
[02:24] <wgrant> starfruit: That doesn't use /etc/network/interfaces. It uses a different mechanism which might eventually replace it.
[02:24] <kindofabuzz> zaza, like static?
[02:25] <wgrant> !ask | toddnorcross
[02:25] <KoKoRiKo> tritium, I get this  ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[02:25] <KoKoRiKo>          installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING
[02:25] <nassrat> lstarnes: you mean by rm-ing the links or using the update-rc.d
[02:25] <nassrat> ?
[02:25] <toddnorcross> i burned the ISO to a cd and now it will only boot if I have the CD in the tay
[02:25] <lstarnes> nassrat: either
[02:25] <tritium> KoKoRiKo: we don't support nvidia.com downloads when there are drivers in the repositories.
[02:25] <wgrant> KoKoRiKo: Use System->Administration->Hardware Drivers. That will do everything for you easily.
[02:25] <starfruit> wgrant, i see
[02:25] <Luna_chan> phoenixz: sorry, how bout this, i need a way to put music onto my zune using ubuntu...im not sure how to do that
[02:26] <phase_shift314> i would like terminal to stay open after i run a command/script when ubuntu 8.04 boots, how can i do this?
[02:26] <zaza> anyone knows why ubuntu make noise when booting??
[02:26] <usser> foooo, hm it doesnt even execute at all here
[02:26] <nassrat> K, anybody here know how i can make ssh-askpass pop up inside a terminal
[02:26] <dassouki> how can i disable bluetooth when ubuntu starts
[02:26] <brandon_> hey guys i have a flash disk type thing, and it only mounts as read only, anyway to fix this?
[02:26] <stealth-> zaza: makes noise? like audio through the speakers?
[02:26] <kyller> hi
[02:26] <usser> foooo, is the script in the same directory with videos?
[02:26] <Lint01> where I can find anacron log?
[02:26] <stealth-> !hi | kyller
[02:26] <foooo> Umm I have the full pathnames in the input file.
[02:26] <akenO> Anyone know how to access the output of Wine
[02:26] <akenO> A program isnt working right
[02:27] <akenO> and I wanted to see why its not loading
[02:27] <kindofabuzz> akenO, run it from command line
[02:27] <kindofabuzz> akenO, wine <program name>
[02:27] <brandon_> omfg
[02:27] <stealth-> akenO: wine output is very confusing, and its likely to be above your head, but you can run it from the command line
[02:27] <zaza> stealth- yup .. very noisy sound when loading / booting ubuntu intrepid
[02:27] <zaza> okey guys.. got to goy..; chat some other time..
[02:27] <zaza> tq
[02:27] <stealth-> zaza: so your noise through the speakers? what kind of noise?
[02:27] <foooo> usser: It's like ffmpeg doesn't wanna get scripted lol. Which makes things hard for me  since the encoding might take about half hour then I have to type the next line.
[02:28] <nassrat> anybody here know anythin about SSH_ASKPASS?
[02:28] <RickX> is there a group of apps/utilities that will allow me to compile from source?
[02:28] <kindofabuzz> zaza, fresh install? because i remember i had the same problem with a fresh install, did the updates and everything was fine after that
[02:28] <phase_shift314> i would like terminal to stay open after i run a command/script when ubuntu 8.04 boots, how can i do this? i tried putting read at the end of the script but that only worked once
[02:28] <zaza> the sound from my laptop.. it's a buzzer kind of sound....
[02:28] <brandon_> hey guys i have a flash disk type thing, and it only mounts as read only, anyway to fix this?
[02:29] <toddnorcross> ubuntu will only boot to my pc if I have the ubunto system disk in my cd tray.  Can someone tell me why it won't load to my HDD and load from there?
[02:29] <kindofabuzz> RickX, install build-essentials and you will have evrything to compile from source, except the deps needed for whatever you're trying to build of course
[02:29] <usser> foooo, indeed only one file is converted, it does read input afterwards but apparently nothing is read
[02:29] <nassrat> anbody here uses SSH?
[02:29] <Lint01> where I can find anacron log?
[02:29] <foooo> usser: Maybe directing input into the command might help I'm thinking I saw something similar once.
[02:29] <Jugsins> Hey guys, anybody mind helping me with a quick question?
[02:29] <RickX> kindofabuzz: thanks. Thats the package I was looking for.
[02:29] <Pulgarcito> Lint01:/var/log probably
[02:30] <syntax\> lo can anyone help me out with my problem? :D
[02:30] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, probably %98 of linux uses use SSH
[02:30] <stealth-> zaza: mine does that too sometimes, but i just ignore it. I'm not actually sure what causes it, but its done no obvious harm in the few years i've been using it. I'm assuming your sound is like mine, but I cant tell since I cant actually hear it for myself.
[02:30] <karim_> sorry its KoKoRiKo  , disconnected
[02:30] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: ok you using ssh-askpass under kde?
[02:30] <usser> foooo, why dont you try reading the entire input file first then go line by line instead of reading the input in the loop condition
[02:30] <stealth-> !repeat | syntax\
[02:30] <picaboo> QUIT :RumjatarIRC v0.1 -http://www.rirc.org
[02:30] <syntax\> i need to use two dns servers @ stealth-
[02:30] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, no sorry, i use gnome, what is ssh-askpass? a gui for a password?
[02:31] <picaboo> QUIT :RumjatarIRC v0.1 -http://www.rirc.org
[02:31] <syntax\> stealth-: one is an intranet one and the other is a dsl dns server.
[02:31] <Pulgarcito> x11-ssh-askpass is a lightweight passphrase dialog for OpenSSH or other open
[02:31] <Pulgarcito>      variants of SSH.
[02:31] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: yeah, and I think you get it by default in gnome
[02:31] <Pulgarcito> I assume it's a gui for ssh
[02:31] <syntax\> i was able to configure two NIC having an intranet ip and a world(dsl) ip.
[02:31] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: i guess you dont use ssh-keys
[02:31] <picaboo> QUIT :RumjatarIRC v0.1 -http://www.rirc.org
[02:32] <cjae> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947
[02:32] <usser> foooo, hang on lemme pull my sync script
[02:32] <stealth-> syntax\: ummmmm... Im not familiar with dns, sorry. I was just saying that if noone knows your answer you won't get an answer. It's fine to repeat your question every once and a while, just dont ask "can noone help me?" because then people arn't even seeing your question
[02:32] <akenO> Thanks for telling me about it!
[02:32] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, i just get a password line in terminal, plus i have it set to where i don't have to enter a pass to enter my ssh server
[02:32] <tritium> cjae: please don't post URLs like that
[02:32] <syntax\> okies stealth xD thanks.
[02:32] <toddnorcross> some of you guys are incredibly rude.  Some of us are new to linux in particular, to ubuntu.  We're not all computer nerds with nothing better to do with our time than get geeked out by our machines in mommies basement.  Get a life you guys, buy some beer, get laid
[02:32] <nassrat> any KDE4 users in the house, who use ssh-keys and SSH_ASKPASS
[02:32] <RickX> apt can't seem to find build essentials...
[02:32] <Lint01> Pulgarcito, there's nothing which looks like cron or anacron
[02:32] <stealth-> toddnorcross: thats a very bad way to get help
[02:32] <tritium> toddnorcross: stop
[02:32] <wgrant> RickX: build-essential. Not the plural.
[02:32]  * cjae follows ostrict suite
[02:33] <kindofabuzz> toddnorcross, i do all those, and i'm a nerd too =)
[02:33]  * cjae follows ostrich suite
[02:33] <tritium> cjae: stop
[02:33] <brandon_> omfg, ubuntu is mounting EVERY partition as read only O.O
[02:33] <toddnorcross> no one will help.  there are really rude responses flying all around
[02:33] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: you have it set where you dont ener a password? that sounds somewhat insecure. so if i raid your machine I can log into all your remote machines by looking at your known-hosts file
[02:33] <mase_work> toddnorcross: rude in what way ?
[02:33] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, not insecure at all
[02:33] <mhilinski> how do i uninstall Picasa3
[02:33] <RickX> thanks.. its coming down now.
[02:33] <mase_work> toddnorcross: i had a quick scroll up and couldn't see anything really offensive
[02:33] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: you need to use a passphrase on your key, trust me
[02:34] <brandon_> ...
[02:34] <unitedpotsmokers> hey guys, i have a problem when i uninstall open office & reinstall it back (version 3.0.1). after i enter to /OOO300_m15_native_packed-1_en-US.9379/DEBS/desktop-integration/ and type sudo dpkg -i openoffice.org3.0-debian-menus_3.0-9376_all.deb, it said Errors were encountered while processing: openoffice.org3.0-debian-menus_3.0-9376_all.deb. how to solve this problem?
[02:34] <brandon_> !mtab
[02:34] <Pulgarcito> Lint01: Really? try "locate crond"
[02:34] <brandon_> omfg, ubuntu is mounting EVERY partition as read only O.O a little help would be nice
[02:34] <wgrant> unitedpotsmokers: We can't support third-party packages like that.
[02:34] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, ssh-keygen -t rsa
[02:34] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: and then put a passphrase when it asks you to
[02:34] <wgrant> unitedpotsmokers: You might want to ask the producers of that package.
[02:34] <Pulgarcito> I have a few logs for Dillions cron with that name
[02:35] <stealth-> toddnorcross: if your talking about people getting lectured for repeating the question, what do you expect? If we don't know the answer, we don't know the answer. Trying to keep the channel organized and not full of people repeating their question is not being rude.
[02:35] <wgrant> kindofabuzz: It is a really, really bad idea to have an un-passworded SSH key.
[02:35] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, no, i don't even do that, if a computer doesn't have that key, it's going to ask for a password
[02:35] <brandon_> wtf
[02:35] <tritium> unitedpotsmokers: in addition, there is a PPA for openoffice 3.0
[02:35] <Lint01> Pulgarcito, there's no crond installed, but there's anacron
[02:35] <pulgoki> when you install ubuntu does it install beryl by default?
[02:35] <stealth-> !who toddnorcross
[02:35] <juls4> Does anyone here have substantial experience with the NVIDIA proprietary drivers?
[02:35] <stealth-> opps
[02:35] <stealth-> lol
[02:36] <brandon_>  i guess noone will help me
[02:36] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: the key you generated is plain text, if you copy you .ssh/id_rsa into this window anybody can use it. Whereas if i copy mine here nobody can use it
[02:36] <tritium> brandon_: you didn't ask a question.
[02:36] <wgrant> pulgoki: Beryl has been obsolete for almost two years now - but Ubuntu does by default install Compiz Fusion, which replaces it.
[02:36] <Jugsins> Guys, whenever I mount my iPod on my linux machine Rhythmbox closes and if I open it, it flashes up for a second and then closes. Anybody know why/can help me out?
[02:36] <wgrant> nassrat: Although copying it here is still probably unwise.
[02:36] <mhilinski> what does ppa stand for
[02:36] <pulgoki> wgrant: is there a way to "not" install that stuff by default?
[02:36] <wgrant> mhilinski: Personal Package Archive.
[02:36] <ezekial> what type of ipod?
[02:36] <brandon_> ok then: how do i stop my ubuntu from mounting everything as read only by default?
[02:36] <wgrant> pulgoki: You can certainly uninstall or disable it easily.
[02:36] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, id_rsa.pub is not plain text
[02:36] <picaboo> ok :)
[02:36] <pulgoki> wgrant: it doesnt work well on my laptop
[02:36] <Miesco> How do I downgrade a package?
[02:37] <picaboo> ok :)
[02:37] <foooo> usser: here's an example ffmpeg I made which makes a short movie outa a pixmap "ffmpeg -loop_input -i /usr/share/pixmaps/firefox-3.0.png -r 1 -vframes 10 -y /tmp/test.mp4"; It's good for testing.
[02:37] <mhilinski> how do i uninstall picasa3
[02:37] <pulgoki> wgrant: i cant even see the display enough to uninstall anything
[02:37] <pulgoki> its very cluttered and washed out
[02:37] <usser> foooo, nah i got a bucn of small videofiles its ok
[02:37] <wgrant> pulgoki: Which version of Ubuntu are you using? What type of graphics card?
[02:37] <Pulgarcito> Lint0q: Just googled it, apparently anacron logs itself to /var/log/system.log for MacOS
[02:37] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: google it or something. PS, I think you misundrestood what i meant by plaintext, it means it is not encrypted
[02:38] <god__> I got a few questions about my graphics card. Anyone up for it?
[02:38] <wgrant> !ask | god__
[02:38] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABIwAAAQEArLRw4pgojIkWUgt42q/e6SXdEe/qGKazQh3xi6dRt2m$ looks pretty crypted to me =)
[02:38] <wgrant> kindofabuzz: Destroy that key on all of your remote machines *now*.
[02:38] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: can i see .ssh/id_rsa
[02:39] <wgrant> kindofabuzz: It is simply encoding.
[02:39] <MarkJones> Can anyone say if its possible to make a desktop launcher for "sudo tilp"?
[02:39] <nassrat> you copy yours and i will mine
[02:39] <juls4> O
[02:39] <wgrant> s/encoding/encoded/
[02:39] <Jugsins> Guys, whenever I mount my iPod on my linux machine Rhythmbox closes and if I open it, it flashes up for a second and then closes. Anybody know why/can help me out?
[02:39] <brandon_> ok then: how do i stop my ubuntu from mounting everything as read only by default?
[02:39] <pulgoki> wgrant: newest ubuntu i believe and its a dell inspiron with radeon x300
[02:39] <wgrant> MarkJones: You could make a launcher for 'gksudo tilp'; that will prompt for your password in a window rather than a terminal.
[02:39] <MarkJones> Ive tried making a desktop launcher using sudo but never get asked for passowrd and app doesnt aunch.
[02:39] <wgrant> pulgoki: OK. Can you get a terminal by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[02:39] <pulgoki> sure
[02:39] <MarkJones> Perfect! thank you very much
[02:39] <foooo> usser: Success!!! Direct input into it like I guessed and it'll work. like this "ffmpeg options input output stuff < /dev/null".
[02:39] <wgrant> pulgoki: If so, log in and 'apt-get remove compiz'
[02:40] <brandon_> I love linux but if this cnat be resolved i will have to switch back to windows
[02:40] <god__> fair enough, whenever I try to enable my Nvidia graphics card's properietary drivers I get sent for a reboot. That makes sense its supposed to happen. Im pretty sure however that Im not suppose to freeze up on a black screen upon reboot. Does any know of a way to figure out whats going on, or perhpas know where i can get an open source driver?
[02:40] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, so ssh-keygen -t rsa is useless?
[02:40] <Jordan_U> wgrant, Isn't that the public key though, I am just guessing by the file name but as long as he doesn't post the private key he should be fine, right?
[02:40] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: you need ot put a passphrase
[02:40] <wgrant> Jordan_U: Ah, yes, didn't notice that...
[02:40] <usser> foooo, aaah so ffmpeg attempts to read from stdin as well?? wth for???
[02:40] <kindofabuzz> brandon_, /etc/fstab
[02:40] <pulgoki> wgrant: okie. too bad there is not an option to leave that out during install so it doesnt leave the display useless :(
[02:40] <wgrant> kindofabuzz: If that's just the public key, you're fine.
[02:40] <stealth-> MarkJones: dont use sudo for graphical resons. Use gksudo for graphical stuff.
[02:40] <juls4> Does anyone here have substantial experience with NVIDA proprietary drivers & xrandr? I'm trying to add an undetected resolution and am getting a "xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed" error. Can anyone help me out??
[02:40] <add_> zheshi
[02:40] <stealth-> !repeat | brandon_
[02:41] <add_> 大家好
[02:41] <wgrant> pulgoki: We try to disable it by default on machines on which we know it doesn't work. You should try Ubuntu 9.04 when it is released in a couple of days, and if it still doesn't work properly file a bug.
[02:41] <nassrat> wgrant: yeah but his key is still not encrypted. any user accessing his machine can raid his life
[02:41] <god__> seems there are a few of us having trouble with nvidia
[02:41] <foooo> usser: probably for the output file since it's the only one not specified by a switch thing.
[02:41] <fearful> I'm having problems enabling desktop effects after connecting a projector on Ubuntu, tried restoring a recent backup of xorg.conf nothing happened, how do I re install the graphics card Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME Integrated Graphics is my card
[02:41] <pulgoki> wgrant: nice.. thank you
[02:41] <wgrant> juls4: The NVIDIA proprietary driver doesn't really support much of XRandR.
[02:41] <toddnorcross> i have followed the installation instructions and have rebooted my machine as directed, but ubuntu will only boot up if the system disk is in my cdtray, any suggestions?
[02:41] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, that's the thing, no one is on it but me
[02:41] <pulgoki> wgrant: it works well without compiz
[02:41] <pulgoki> :P
[02:41] <wgrant> toddnorcross: What does it do otherwise?
[02:41] <syntax\> I need to use two name servers, the 1st one is an intranet nameserver (192.168.1.1) and the other is a name server from my dsl. I have two NIC's one is for the intranet and the other is for the dsl. eth0 has the ip configuration for my dsl and eth1 has the ip for the intranet. both of which are on static configurations. if i was to set the intranet nameserver on the 1st line of /etc/resolv.conf, then id try to disable the dsl NIC resolving would be ok, the
[02:41] <syntax\> n if i was to try to reup the NIC that has the dsl config and disable the NIC that has the intranet resolving won't work. /etc/resolv.conf has the dsl nameserver on the 2nd line.
[02:41] <add_> 有没有intel 815的驱动？
[02:42] <crdlb> fearful: the problem is almost assuredly the 'Virtual' line in your xorg.conf
[02:42] <toddnorcross> nothing, it tells me to insert my system disk
[02:42] <syntax\> sorry for flooding.
[02:42] <wgrant> pulgoki: Good - but please try Ubuntu 9.04 with Compiz, and if it doesn't work by default you should tell us with a bug.
[02:42] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: its not secure, thats the issue. see wgrant thought you copied your private key. if I copy mine you cannot do anything to it
[02:42] <animesh> hey
[02:42] <juls4> wgrant: really? So I can't use xrandr to configure a forced resolution? Could that be the reason for the error?
[02:42] <fearful> crdlb, thanks I'll check that out, if I have problems I'll tell you
[02:43] <usser> foooo, good catch there.
[02:43] <wgrant> juls4: It might support that, but IIRC NVIDIA do Bad Things™ with overriding RandR modes because of TwinView.
[02:43] <TheFunkbomb> could someone help me with Evolution?  Specifically, is it okay to use pop instead of imap?
[02:43] <god__> im looking for a driver for my nvidia gfx card. The proprietary one kills my start up
[02:43] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, so you're saying someone could still hack my server? they'd still have to guess my password or have my key
[02:43] <usser> foooo, why would ffmpeg read from stdin is beyond me
[02:43] <wgrant> juls4: You should use the NVIDIA control panel thingy, because they like avoiding standards.
[02:43] <crdlb> fearful: gnome-display-properties added it, and all you need to do is remove it
[02:43] <picaboo> hi
[02:43] <wgrant> kindofabuzz: I just have to sneak up to your laptop when you're not looking. Then I have your servers.
[02:44] <kindofabuzz> wgrant, by copying the key from id_rsa.pub?
[02:44] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: have your key is the main concern
[02:44] <juls4> wgrant: the NVIDIA x server settings (if that's the NVIDIA control panel) doesn't give me any other options as far as resolutions. only the detected range which is far bellow what my monitor is capable of.
[02:44] <wgrant> kindofabuzz: id_rsa, not .pub.
[02:45] <jtbandes> How would one go about reading input from a single button connected via USB?
[02:45] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: if you have a passphrase, even if they have your key they cant use it, and if you use random passwords then its pretty secure
[02:45] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, wgrant well my desktop is not a laptop and the server is in my house too. =) no worries
[02:45] <stealth-> would setting up a cron job for my server to automatically update and upgrade be a bad idea?
[02:45] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: but the passphrase should be quite long and hard to guess
[02:45] <racecar56> does 8.10 work with a radeon RV280SE? i'm not sure what a RV280SE is in the other kind of models (e.g. 2400) someone says it's a 9200, but i'm not sure
[02:45] <wgrant> stealth-: See the unattended-upgrades package.
[02:45] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: i meant in general
[02:45] <god__> can someone plz point in a direction that can help me with my nvidia driver issues?
[02:45] <stealth-> wgrant: thanks
[02:46] <wgrant> racecar56: Ot
[02:46] <wgrant> Gah.
[02:46] <wgrant> racecar56: That's a 9200. It will work just as well as the 9500, or maybe better.
[02:46] <juls4> god_: not that they've been much help but http://www.nvnews.net/ is a forum for NVIDIA drivers/hardware. They have a linux forum too.
[02:47] <wgrant> god__: Unfortunately it's a bit hard, as they are proprietary junk. juls4's suggestion is probably the best idea.
[02:47] <racecar56> wgrant, kk, cool
[02:47] <tharmor> is there a known issue today (or recently) with the gnome keychain agent dying?
[02:48] <wizared> How do you remove a .deb from the terminal
[02:49] <wgrant> wizared: dpkg -r somepackage
[02:49] <kindofabuzz> man dpkg
[02:49] <wgrant> With a 'sudo' on the front.
[02:50] <god__> thanks for the link, but it really doesnt mention where or how to find a driver for this nvidia that wont kill my comp
[02:50] <Leonardo_neo> QUIT
[02:50] <god__> does anyone know how to find why this driver is killing me?
[02:50] <wgrant> god__: Only NVIDIA is likely to know that.
[02:50] <wgrant> god__: You should ask on that forum.
[02:50] <kindofabuzz> god__, can you not use the restricted drivers?
[02:50] <god__> no
[02:50] <foooo> Nvidia and God.
[02:51]  * jtbandes read that as "god no"
[02:51] <kindofabuzz> lawl
[02:51] <wgrant> god__: Hmm, which driver are you using?
[02:51] <wizared> wgrant: That worked. Thank you
[02:51] <ubuntunoobneedin> how do you uncapture a mouse in virtual machine?
[02:51] <god__> when i attempt to, after reboot, i only get black screen
[02:51] <god__> none right now
[02:51] <kindofabuzz> is your monitor on? =)
[02:51] <wgrant> ubuntunoobneedin: It depends on which virtualisation software you are using.
[02:51] <wgrant> god__: OK, so it is the proprietary driver.
[02:51] <god__> well then whatever came with ubuntu se
[02:51] <ubuntunoobneedin> sun virtualbox
[02:51] <god__> it would have to be, but it isnt enabled
[02:52] <racecar56> ubuntunoobneedin, right ctrl
[02:52] <ubuntunoobneedin> thanks
[02:52] <wgrant> god__: Did you use the Hardware Drivers application to install the proprietary driver, then reboot, then find it to be broken?
[02:52] <racecar56> ubuntunoobneedin, i use altgr (i have old keyboard with eurosign on 5 xD)
[02:52] <god__> yes
[02:52] <god__> that is exactky what happens
[02:52] <wgrant> god__: OK, so you are using the proprietary driver.
[02:52] <god__> exactly*
[02:52] <wgrant> god__: So we can't really help you, sorry :(
[02:52] <racecar56> god__, odd as usually it works better than the official ones O_o
[02:52] <god__> im asking where i can find an open source driver
[02:53] <god__> so that i can get help
[02:53] <racecar56> god__, its builtin
[02:53] <wgrant> god__: The one installed by default is.
[02:53] <god__> well then why cant i use my 3d accelerator?
[02:53] <wgrant> So I guess you want to switch back to that one?
[02:53] <god__> I have nothing to switch back to
[02:53] <god__> i havent changed anything, and when i do change itr goes black, then i wipe my hdd and reinstall
[02:54] <wgrant> god__: Because NVIDIA do not release the necessary information to let us write one. There is an ongoing project (Nouveau) to reverse engineer the 3D capabilities.
[02:54] <god__> so, in other words. just fix the resolution and wait?
[02:54] <honeybear> hello all
[02:54] <god__> I heard that X11 works in Xubuntu. Whats that all about?
[02:54] <abama> how to install python?
[02:55] <wgrant> god__: Both Ubuntu and Xubuntu run their graphical applications within X11. What do you mean?
[02:55] <wgrant> abama: It's installed by default.
[02:55] <centHOGG> <xfce
[02:55] <abama> how to check if python is installed in ubuntu?
[02:55] <LjL> abama: apt-cache policy python
[02:55] <god__> hmm, im not sure what I mean. despite the fact that im god, im new to ubuntu
[02:55] <wgrant> abama: It is installed by default, but you can run 'python' in a terminal to see.
[02:55]  * genii slips LjL
[02:55] <bonez46> clearly we have here NOT an omniscient god.. , but a god under construction.
[02:55]  * genii slips LjL a coffee and cookie
[02:55] <honeybear> i was wondering if someone could help me with a screen resolution problem
[02:56] <god__> Hey at least im honeswt
[02:56] <god__> oh i cant spell either
[02:56] <wgrant> !ask | honeybear
[02:56] <bonez46> bug God would know all about   it. that's ok.. we can teach you
[02:56] <god__> lol
[02:56] <centHOGG> honeybear: ok
[02:56] <god__> thanks
[02:56] <god__> ummm, so then its a matter of time before i have 3d acceleration with this nvidia? is there no way I can lie to the pc and tell it has something else?
[02:57] <honeybear> i'm running ubuntu 8.1 with a GeForce FX5200 graphics card, and i'm stuck in 640x480 resolution
[02:57] <abama> File "/home/ubuntu/platform/.repo/repo/git_command.py", line 140, in __init__
[02:57] <abama>     raise GitError('%s: %s' % (command[1], e))
[02:57] <abama> error.GitError: config: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
[02:57] <god__> OH DUDE! isnt there a way to reroute my graphics processing through to my cpu?
[02:57] <honeybear> is there any way to get unstuck?
[02:57] <abama> what is lost?
[02:57] <nfrs> hi
[02:57] <centHOGG> honeybear: k... pm me
[02:57] <wgrant> god__: You should ask on that forum - they can probably help you to get it working.
[02:57] <god__> oh but that would kill processes for sure
[02:57] <brutus> nfrs, hello
[02:57] <nfrs> I want to a remove some files from a .deb package and then build it again. how can I do it?
[02:57] <xerxes_> Hi...what is generally the advantage of ubuntu over debian?
[02:58] <philh> hi guys
[02:58] <god__> what forum? where? Im entirely new at this
[02:58] <wgrant> honeybear: Try using System->Administration->Hardware Drivers to install the NVIDIA proprietary driver.
[02:58] <brutus> xerxes_, ubuntu is more newbie user friendly
[02:58] <kindofabuzz> xerxes_, mainly just more bleeding edge packages, and cosmetic things
[02:58] <wgrant> god__: http://www.nvnews.net/
[02:58] <philh> any of you know how to enabled SBA and fastwrite for nvidia drivers?
[02:58] <god__> LIES ubuntu hates me!
[02:58] <god__> thanks for the link btw
[02:58] <xerxes_> oki
[02:58] <fearful> crdlb, there is no section 'Virtual'
[02:58] <wgrant> xerxes_: A better out-of-the-box experience, more frequent releases, more up-to-date packages.
[02:59] <philh> i've tried a guide on the forum but to no avail
[02:59] <pape> salut
[02:59] <juls4> wgrant: Would you know why in nvidia control panel my monitor is CRT-0 on GPU-0 ... does that mean NVIDIA is seeing it as a CRT and not a LCD?
[02:59] <crdlb> fearful: it would be a line in Section "Screen"
[03:00] <fearful> crdlb, http://paste.ubuntu.com/155669/
[03:00] <pape> i
[03:00] <bootio> how would i test 3d acceleration is working right?
[03:00] <fearful> crdlb, thats my xorg.conf
[03:00] <wgrant> juls4: I don't know - it might just be what it calls a VGA port.
[03:00] <abama> http://paste.ubuntu.com/155670/
[03:00] <god__> how can i be the only in the world whos computer gets crashed by a proprietary driver?
[03:00] <wgrant> bootio: You could run 'glxgears' and see if it doesn't eat too much of your CPU.
[03:00] <pape> vous parlez français
[03:00] <wgrant> god__: You aren't - proprietary drivers cause no end of problems, which is part of why they're such a bad idea.
[03:00] <racecar56> glxgears makes my laptop beep
[03:00] <bootio> wgrant: i ran glxgears and it gave 850fps
[03:01] <wgrant> bootio: You have 3D acceleration.
[03:01] <racecar56> O_O
[03:01] <juls4> NVIDA is so dodgy on ubuntu. I think i have to go back to windows O_0
[03:01] <god__> well there have to be other people in the world who have 3d accelration in ubuntu thats processed by nvidia drivers.
[03:01] <wgrant> juls4: Please, complain to NVIDIA. Let them know you want better.
[03:01] <bootio> wgrant: ooohhh ok so the 8,000+ scores are just for good graphics cards i take it?
[03:01] <philh> juls4, what's the trouble?
[03:01] <wgrant> god__: There are.
[03:01] <philh> bootio, what's your graphics card?
[03:01] <god__> I was going to go back to windows, but xp had more driver problems with my model than linux
[03:01] <wgrant> bootio: If you have an Intel graphics card, 850fps is reasonable.
[03:02] <god__> how can i find out how they got thier machines to work?
[03:02] <god__> google isnt very helpful
[03:02] <crdlb> fearful: did you restart X after restoring that xorg.conf from backup?
[03:02] <abama> who can tell me what file is lost?
[03:02] <kindofabuzz> that's blaspemy!
[03:02] <wgrant> god__: Try that forum. They'll know better than probably anyone here.
[03:02] <abama> http://paste.ubuntu.com/155670/
[03:02] <bootio> philh: Intel® GM45 + ICH9-M
[03:02] <wgrant> bootio: That's about right, then.
[03:03] <fearful> restarted X and restarted computer multiple times now since it happened.
[03:03] <god__> the forum is just telling me i need aditional plugins
[03:03] <wgrant> abama: Python's working fine - it's the software that you are trying to run that has a problem. You should ask its author.
[03:03] <bootio> wgrant: sweet-
[03:03] <philh> so, no one knows how to enable fastwrites?
[03:03] <racecar56> fastwrites?
[03:04] <philh> for agp nvidia cards
[03:04] <racecar56> i dont even know what that is :/
[03:05] <juls4> philh: NVIDIA doesn't detect the full resolution of my monitor, so everything is stretched horizontally. I've tried to use xradr to create a new modeline/resolution but it fails. Although that's not the worst of it - whenever I boot into ubuntu, it's like my desktop has 'zoomed' in, and I have to move my mouse to the corners of the screen for it to pann to the menu. Then I end up having to chose the same resolution, which fixes the issue and rescales it back into
[03:05] <racecar56> *xrandr
[03:05] <fearful> crdlb, restarted X and restarted computer multiple times now since it happened.
[03:06] <fumanchu182> I have the x86_64 alpha flash plugin installed, video plays well, but i can't get any audio, i know which device to use but am unfamiliar with the audio backend in linux, how would i force the flash plugin to use hw=1,3 (specific device which is hdmi audio over an ati card)
[03:06] <riley3> hello
[03:06] <_chun> Anyone know how I can turn my laptop's function (Fn) key into a toggle?
[03:06] <riley3> I am new to this
[03:06] <juls4> racecar56: thanks for the typo correcting service... O_0
[03:06] <philh> juls4, and you've tried changing the resolution using nvidia-settings?
[03:06] <racecar56> kk
[03:07] <juls4> philh: you're talking about the NVIDIA X server settings in system/admin?
[03:07] <riley3> I would like to use pan but have no clue how . Can some one help me?
[03:07] <juls4> philh: then yes.
[03:07] <bootio> i'm wondering if my dial-up modem works in ubuntu- how would i test that? if i recall correctly ubuntu 8.10 supports modems through a gui, no?
[03:07] <PlaHPoy> anyone know if its possible to change the ip address of a VM (kvm) remotely
[03:07] <philh> when i got this new panel i had all manner of trouble until i just let nvidia-settings create a fresh xorg.conf for me
[03:07] <bootio> or is that 9.0.4 that is coming out that is supposed to support modems?
[03:08] <PlaHPoy> i put it in my colo, but forgot to change the vm ip address away from 192.168....
[03:08] <god__> how do you get to nvidia settings?
[03:09] <philh> bootio, when i last looked they seemed to have left out the parts of the gui for modem dialup from 8.10, they did have wireless broadband dongle support though
[03:09] <juls4> philh: NVIDIA seems to be the problem in this situation, not a saviour. I've tried writing the settings to the xorg.conf file.
[03:09] <philh> juls4, have you tried backing up your old xorg.conf and writing a fresh one instead of merging?
[03:09] <riley3> anyone use pan?
[03:10] <^Phantom^> okay
[03:10] <iceroot> riley3: i guess someone here is using it
[03:10] <juls4> philh: How do I do that?
[03:10] <Mike_lifeguard> If I want to connect to a VPN, can I use something like openvpn, or do I really need to download the software my university is telling me to?
[03:10] <juls4> philh: write a new one, that is.
[03:10] <^Phantom^> here's the deal
[03:10] <riley3> hi Iceroot
[03:11] <philh> i think you get presented with the option in nvidia-settings when you try to save
[03:11] <^Phantom^> i want to get a copy of ubuntu that will FULLY work
[03:11] <iceroot> Mike_lifeguard: use the cisco version of the client, most unis are using cisco and others dont work
[03:11] <n2diy>  bootio, modems have been supported for years. Your modem settings should be in one of the network menus.
[03:11] <god__> good luck
[03:11] <^Phantom^> what version should get?
[03:11] <fearful> crdlb, any suggestions
[03:12] <iceroot> phantomcircuit: depending on what you want, new software or long term support
[03:12] <juls4> philh: okay, I just tried to create a new one with NVIDIA: "Unable to create new X config backup file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'"
[03:12] <jascase901> #python
[03:12] <crdlb> fearful: what does 'glxinfo | grep renderer' say?
[03:12] <iceroot> ^Phantom^: : depending on what you want, new software or long term support
[03:12] <Mike_lifeguard> iceroot: thanks, that was the other package I was looking at
[03:12] <iceroot> phantomcircuit: sorry, wrong nick
[03:12] <jascase901> Whats the source code behind the eval function?
[03:13] <^Phantom^> and also: I DON'T WANT A VERSION THAT'S GONNA SPIT "NON COMPATIBLE COMPUTER" ERRORS EVERY TIME I TRY TO INSTALL SOMETHING
[03:13] <^Phantom^> sorry, caps
[03:13] <^Phantom^> i'm frustrated ._.
[03:13] <philh> juls4, you need to use sudo before it'll be able to write to /etc directly, or you can have it write to a file in your home directory and copy it across with sudo afterwards
[03:13] <fearful> crdlb, OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945GM 20061102 x86/MMX/SSE2
[03:13] <crdlb> jascase901: you're not actually in #python :)
[03:13] <wgrant> ^Phantom^: What do you mean about those errors? What gave you them?
[03:13] <iceroot> ^Phantom^: post your errors here so that someone can help you
[03:13] <jascase901> o LOl
[03:13] <jascase901> im sorry
[03:13] <crdlb> fearful: run 'compiz --replace &' in a terminal and pastebin the output
[03:14] <^Phantom^> oh, i currently have a horribly outdated version
[03:14] <riley3> see that is why I have no clue what to do everYTIME I LOAD SOMETHING UP I GET PROBLEMS AND ERROR MESSAGES
[03:14] <crdlb> jascase901: and you'll need to register/identify before you can
[03:14] <^Phantom^> version 7.10 hardy
[03:14] <iceroot> ^Phantom^: hardy is 8.04
[03:14] <jascase901> crdlb: Ya i did all that, i just forgot to click on the right chat lol
[03:14] <mawar> com
[03:14] <^Phantom^> well, 7.10 is what i have
[03:14] <^Phantom^> and frankly it sucks D:
[03:15] <juls4> philh: I can't save it anywhere but in the location it specifies.
[03:15] <iceroot> ^Phantom^: then use a newer version 8.04 lts, 8.10 current release or in ne day 9.04
[03:15] <tritium> ^Phantom^: likely due for the most part to your hardware
[03:15] <^Phantom^> i'd prefer one with long term support
[03:15] <iceroot> ^Phantom^: ubuntu hardy 8.04.2
[03:15] <fumanchu182> is there a freenode channel for flash player support?
[03:16] <racecar56> doubt it
[03:16] <philh> juls4, are you sure? are you looking at X server display configuration?
[03:16] <wgrant> fumanchu182: Unlikely - only Adobe can support it.
[03:16] <iceroot> fumanchu182: not for the software of course
[03:16] <fumanchu182> i think i know why it won't play over hdmi audio just have to get my idea to a dev
[03:16] <iceroot> fumanchu182: just for flash-programming
[03:16] <fumanchu182> it seems to use only the default hw=0,1 device
[03:16] <fumanchu182> no way to tell it to use your hdmi device at hw=1,3 (if it is enabled for you and you have a hdmi video card)
[03:17] <fearful> crdlb, http://paste.ubuntu.com/155675/
[03:17] <philh> juls4, there's a save to X configuration file button at the bottom of that section, clicking that will give you the option to save to another location and merge with the existing xorg or not
[03:17] <god__> if i do glxinfo i get this, "client glx vendor string: SGI" if thats not my nvidia driver, what is it?
[03:17]  * Xcell hi
[03:17] <wgrant> god__: That'll be Mesa, the software renderer.
[03:18]  * Xcell oi
[03:18] <JohnGalt> Anyone use Xdmx?
[03:18] <^Phantom^> also, how can i remove the ubuntu entries from the grub menu on my primary hdd?
[03:18] <crdlb> fearful: ah, you enabled metacity's stpuid broken compositing manager :/
[03:18] <god__> hmm
[03:18] <fearful> crdlb, and how did I manage to do that?
[03:18] <wgrant> ^Phantom^: Remove the from /boot/grub/menu.lst on whichever distro GRUB is installed from.
[03:18] <iceroot> ^Phantom^:edit the grub-file    sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:18] <n2diy> god_ is stumped!?
[03:19] <^Phantom^> so that i can boot directly to one of the partitions on my primary, WITHOUT having to have the external hard drive plugged in to do so
[03:19] <pace_t_zulu> has anyone notice that when you change screen resolutions, panel objects and applets can get disorganized and out of order
[03:19] <crdlb> fearful: run    gconf-editor /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager    and disable that
[03:19] <pace_t_zulu> ?
[03:19] <fumanchu182> but then again adobe says it only supports alsa so if the hdmi port is not running on alsa you get screwed
[03:19] <Xcell> ye-ha
[03:19] <juls4> philh: No, that's just asking you to point it to the location of your xorg.conf file.. I tried to create a new empty file on the desktop named xorg.conf but it won't write to it.
[03:20] <^Phantom^> can you help me with doing that please?
[03:20] <fearful> crdlb, done, restart x or something?
[03:20] <crdlb> fearful: just enable compiz
[03:20] <philh> juls4, ok, try the show preview button and just copy and paste the new xorg config
[03:21] <fearful> crdlb, can I have the command?
[03:21] <arthursena> good night galera
[03:21] <pace_t_zulu>  has anyone noticed that when you change screen resolutions, panel objects and applets can get disorganized and out of order?
[03:21] <crdlb> fearful: sys > prefs > appearance > visual effects
[03:21] <fearful> crdlb, oh alright, sweet works like a charm thanks so much!
[03:22] <manpoole> i have a problem with a script in conky can some one take a look
[03:23] <^Phantom^> [20:18] <wgrant> ^Phantom^: Remove the from /boot/grub/menu.lst on whichever distro GRUB is installed from.  <-If only i knew how to work grub...
[03:23] <god__> is there a way to tell the software gfx renderer to do 3d?
[03:24] <jelly-bean> does anyone have NetworkManager working in 8.10?
[03:24] <wgrant> jelly-bean: It's installed by default, so yes.
[03:24] <juls4> philh: I've got 2 xorg.conf in my x11 directory. One named xorg.conf and the other xorg.conf.20090420200128
[03:24] <wgrant> god__: Remove the proprietary driver, and it will use the software renderer.
[03:24] <JackWat> NetworkManager wasn't working?
[03:25] <wgrant> juls4: The latter is a backup from that timestamp.
[03:25] <god__> but its already using it, that sci or whatever
[03:25] <^Phantom^> can someone please  help me do that???
[03:25] <jelly-bean> wgrant: ya but does it work? i've installed on two dif. machines and while networkmanager comes installed by default, it doesn't work by default. the eth0 does not appear in the left-click menu to enable.
[03:25] <juls4> ah i see...
[03:25] <philh> juls4, copy the current version to xorg.conf.bak and replace with the freshly generated output from nvidia-settings
[03:25] <rocky_> I recently moved my windows xp and ubuntu 8.10 partitions over to a new harddrive, and set up grub.  the problem is that while I can boot Ubuntu, it seems as though grub can't find the windows boot file :(
[03:25] <rocky_> can anybody help?
[03:25] <dragonbyte> why is mysql defaulting to latin1_swedish and how do I change that?
[03:25] <ubuntu> Hello
[03:25] <kindofabuzz> jelly-bean, just a recommendation, you'll have better luck with wicd instead of NM with 8.10
[03:25] <ubuntu> I need serious HELP!!
[03:25] <philh> juls4, you are capable of copying your xorg.conf.bak back in the event that x fails to start, right?
[03:26] <arthursena> ihuu
[03:26] <^Phantom^> how the flip do i manage grub????
[03:26] <rocky_> ubuntu: ask the question, don't ask for help :)
[03:26] <^Phantom^> i don't even know where to start!!!!!!
[03:26] <crdlb> jelly-bean: did you right click -> enable networking?
[03:26] <^Phantom^> i want to do a grub on the external hdd as well
[03:26] <ubuntu> When I try to install it wants to install on whole disk can anybody teach me how to make my own partion in advanced mode?????????/
[03:26] <JohnGalt> Anyone know anything about Xdmx?
[03:26] <centHOGG> ^Phantom^: gimme 10 minutes... helping someone
[03:26] <ubuntu> Please
[03:26] <jelly-bean> crdlb: yes but then on left click it says "Wired Network device is unmanaged"
[03:26] <racecar56> ubuntu manual
[03:26] <kindofabuzz> ^Phantom^, what do you need to do?
[03:27] <JackWat> jelly-bean
[03:27] <^Phantom^> so i'll have a grub on both drives
[03:27] <ubuntu> It does this to me all the time and i never get to install ubuntu
[03:27] <ubuntu> why does it never work?@@?
[03:27] <rocky_> lol
[03:27] <^Phantom^> one i can boot the primary drive's partitions with, on the primary drive
[03:27] <rocky_> Try "manual"
[03:27] <jelly-bean> JackWat: ?
[03:27] <ubuntu> I dont know how to use manual
[03:27] <JackWat> ubuntu: there is an option to use free space on drive
[03:27] <rocky_> you should be able to make an ext3 partition and install to that!
[03:27] <^Phantom^> and one separate grub on the external, for booting the partitions on that one, when i choose to boot from it
[03:27] <ticos> Can I install ubuntu on an external hd and run it using my intel mac?
[03:27] <^Phantom^> is that possible?
[03:27] <ubuntu> JackWat yes
[03:27] <kindofabuzz> ^Phantom^, you want grub to point to another grub?
[03:28] <^Phantom^> NO
[03:28] <rocky_> but now, does anybody know how to make grub see the windows boot file?
[03:28] <JackWat> jelly-bean: there is a command. let me find it
[03:28] <JackWat> windows boot file?
[03:28] <rocky_> idk
[03:28] <juls4> what's the command to get a root permission window in terminal? or am I imagining such a thing?
[03:28] <rocky_> Windows is in the list at grub
[03:28] <JackWat> you want grub to boot into windows?
[03:28] <ubuntu> I only have two option to install it across the whole disk or Manual
[03:28] <rocky_> but it can't boot :(
[03:28] <JackWat> juls4: sudo
[03:28] <JackWat> or su
[03:28] <ubuntu> I been wanting to installl ubuntu for a month but I can get it to work
[03:28] <^Phantom^> I want to remove ubuntu from the current grub, which resides on my internal drive
[03:29] <ubuntu> What is the easiest way to install ubuntu manual, what do i have to create to make it work???
[03:29] <kindofabuzz> !grub > ^Phantom^
[03:29] <^Phantom^> then, when i install the 8.04 ubuntu to the external, give the external hard drive IT'S own grub, so it can be used when i choose to boot from that drive
[03:29] <ubuntu> Do I have to make a swap
[03:29] <rocky_> JackWat: do you know what to do?
[03:29] <ubuntu> Do i have to make a swap
[03:29] <rocky_> ubutnu: not neccesary
[03:29] <rocky_> and don't ask the same question in rapid succession
[03:30] <ubuntu> So I can just make on partion any size and install it across and it wont damage windows rocky_
[03:30] <rocky_> ;)
[03:30] <kindofabuzz> ^Phantom^, so yeah, you can just have the main grub point to another grub, simple
[03:30] <pc> rocky_: what happens?
[03:30] <jelly-bean> JackWat: thank you! i am hoping it is as simple as that.
[03:30] <JackWat|Laptop> rocky_: you can restore the winodws MBR but it will wipe your boot record for ubuntu
[03:30] <rocky_> :/
[03:30] <rocky_> I'll brb, going to see what it says exactly
[03:30] <^Phantom^> yeah
[03:30] <ubuntu> rocky_:  so when i run manual i can just make partion and it will  install it there
[03:31] <^Phantom^> but i'll get the damn error 21 when i have the external drive unplugged
[03:31] <^Phantom^> put simply, i want each drive to have IT'S OWN GRUB
[03:31] <^Phantom^> is that possible?
[03:31] <ubuntu> Can somebody help?
[03:31] <JohnGalt> apparently not.  Oh well.  Didn't expect anyone would.
[03:31] <tritium> ^Phantom^: it's unnecessary
[03:32] <ubuntu> has anyone installed ubuntu manual instead lof the othe wayr
[03:32] <tritium> ubuntu: sure
[03:32] <JackWat|Laptop> ^Phantom^: grub can be installed on your internal drive and point to your external drive
[03:32] <juls4> philh: Okay i'm going to reboot and see if it helps. thanks mate.
[03:32] <Stupendoussteve> Yes
[03:32] <ubuntu> How do you do it
[03:32] <JackWat|Laptop> ubuntu: have you ever partioned a drive before?
[03:32] <arthursena> alguem do brasil?
[03:32] <kindofabuzz> ^Phantom^, it called chainloading, at the bottom of your /boot/grub/menu.lst; first lint will be; title <whatever>, second line will be: root (hd1) or whever your other hard drive is, thirsd line will be: chainloader +1
[03:32] <^Phantom^> it ALREADY DOES
[03:32] <tritium> !br | arthursena
[03:32] <ubuntu> Jack not on ubuntu
[03:32] <spanther> i've heard about a bug in ubuntu 9.04 term ext4 :(  is this issue fixed now with the final release coming in 1 day?
[03:32] <ubuntu> I have on windows
[03:33] <wgrant> spanther: Which bug?
[03:33] <ubuntu> Can I just add partion or do i have ot mkae paretion table
[03:33] <ubuntu> Jackwat
[03:33] <fumanchu182> where would one find "firefoxrc"?
[03:33] <spanther> wgrant the bug where the system freezes while overwriting or so
[03:33] <wgrant> spanther: There is a fairly rare freezing-on-deletion bug - no, that is not yet fixed. It is being worked on.
[03:33] <^Phantom^> but when i have the external drive UNPLUGGED upon boot, grub doesn't load and spits out error 21
[03:33] <rocky_> I'm back!
[03:33] <ticos> is it feasible to run Ubuntu installed on an external hard drive, using my intel mac?
[03:33] <kindofabuzz> fumanchu182, whereis ,filename>
[03:33] <spanther> wgrant yes thats the one i meant :( mh okay
[03:33] <rocky_> pc: it gives me error 13
[03:33] <ubuntu> If It would let me install where i want with the drag thing I would
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[03:33] <^Phantom^> will pointing to a second grub SOLVE that problem?
[03:34] <^Phantom^> yes or no?
[03:34] <wgrant> spanther: Nobody quite knows why it happens, but people are debugging it.
[03:34] <ubuntu> Can someone just tell me the steps to partion and install ubuntu manual
[03:34] <rocky_> I'm going to google a little
[03:34] <wgrant> ubuntu: The installer has an option to do manual partitioning.
[03:34] <tritium> ubuntu: you add the partitions you want, basically
[03:34] <^Phantom^> or will i always ALWAYS have to have the external drive plugged in in order to boot this damn machine?
[03:34] <wgrant> ubuntu: You don't have to do it before you run the installer.
[03:34] <spanther> wgrant there has to be a code bug somewhere. otherwise this bug would be weird ^^
[03:34] <tritium> ^Phantom^: can you please calm down?
[03:34] <kindofabuzz> ^Phantom^, so you have the chainloader in your main grub?
[03:34] <ubuntu> I dont want to mess up window partion
[03:34] <ubuntu> I have win wit homework on it
[03:34] <wgrant> spanther: Of course it's a code bug.
[03:35] <JackWat|Laptop> yeah ^Phantom^, you're gonna make tritium cry
[03:35] <god__> Hey I think I found a fix for my gfx card problem, ill give another post if it works
[03:35] <ubuntu> do yiou have to create partation table swap or anything like that
[03:35] <John_Stamos> i have a dpkg error with python-gnome2
[03:35] <^Phantom^> damnit
[03:35] <wgrant> ubuntu: I don't think we'd release something that we knew would eat Windows partitions... there is an option right in the installer to resize it.
[03:35] <ubuntu> or you just create a partion and your set to install
[03:35] <tritium> ^Phantom^: seriously.  Cut it out.
[03:35] <wgrant> god__: Great!
[03:35] <JackWat|Laptop> oh man here come the waterworks
[03:35] <^Phantom^> will pointing to a second grub SOLVE the "Error 21" problem?
[03:35] <ubuntu> Do I create partiton table
[03:35] <spanther> wgrant well i think with 9.10 it will be fixed and maybe some tools to defrag will be included :)
[03:35] <armence> Hey all, I have a cd which has a file called md5sum.txt which has the md5 hashes for a number of pathes on the CD... Is there a way to basically check all those paths?
[03:35] <tritium> JackWat|Laptop: you're not helping
[03:35] <wgrant> spanther: It will be fixed in a post-release update for Ubuntu 9.04.
[03:35] <ubuntu> it says advanced so i am just trying to make sure everything goes right
[03:36] <ubuntu> because i never installed it with out the drag options befoe
[03:36] <kindofabuzz> ^Phantom^, just try it
[03:36] <Stupendoussteve> ubuntu: It should have one if windows is there
[03:36] <JackWat|Laptop> He's not bothering me. These problems can be frustrating
[03:36] <^Phantom^> or will I ALWAYS have to have that external drive plugged in
[03:36] <wgrant> ubuntu: Why do you want to use advanced mode? If you just want to resize the Windows partition, the Ubuntu installer will ask you if you want to resize it.
[03:36] <spanther> wgrant so 9.04 will have a 9.04.1 like 8.10 had ?
[03:36] <^Phantom^> i'm gonna nuke the external
[03:36] <ubuntu> IT NOT ASKING ME
[03:36] <racecar56> 8.10 didn't have a .1
[03:36] <pc> rocky_: I'm not sure I can help much.  moving Windows partitions around is an art form...
[03:36] <JackWat|Laptop> wgrant: he doesn't want to use his whole drive
[03:36] <racecar56> and 9.04.1 won't come
[03:36] <^Phantom^> install a new ubuntu to it
[03:36] <god__> "then type into a TTY session ", what does that mean? is that the terminal?
[03:36] <rocky_> pc: lmao
[03:36] <rocky_> well.........
[03:37] <tritium> spanther: no, only LTS releases have point releases like that
[03:37] <wgrant> spanther: No. the .1, .2 etc are just new CDs releases, and are only for LTS releases. But all the other releases have updates, we just don't release updated CDs.
[03:37] <kindofabuzz> ^Phantom^, yes pointing to another grub should solve it, that grub isn't even read until called upon
[03:37] <John_Stamos> "update-python-modules: error: Trying to overwrite gtk-2.0/gconf.so which is already provided by /usr/share/python-support/python-gconf
[03:37] <ubuntu> It only give me the option for installing over whole disk or advanced mode
[03:37] <John_Stamos> dpkg: error processing python-gnome2 (--configure):
[03:37] <John_Stamos>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[03:37] <racecar56> only LTS get .1, in fact they will get .2's, probable .3s and .4's
[03:37] <John_Stamos> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:37] <John_Stamos>  python-gnome2
[03:37] <FloodBot1> John_Stamos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:37] <John_Stamos> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[03:37] <ubuntu> is advanced mode really advanced
[03:37] <wgrant> JackWat|Laptop: The installer will ask you to resize!
[03:37] <racecar56> HOLY MOLY
[03:37] <racecar56> wow
[03:37] <racecar56> lots of messages at once
[03:37] <^Phantom^> thank you
[03:37] <JackWat|Laptop> Who was having the issue with an unmanaged network?
[03:37] <^Phantom^> now
[03:37] <rocky_> pc: what I am going to try next /fixmbr on windows recovery console, then reinstall grub
[03:37] <JackWat|Laptop> ther eyou go rocky
[03:37] <spanther> wgrant ah ok so no updated disc. so i have to wait till 9.10 :(
[03:37] <pc> rocky_: usually, I just shrink the existing windows partition, and install Linux after it
[03:37] <wgrant> spanther: Why? You can just install and then upgrade!
[03:37] <John_Stamos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/155680/
[03:37] <ubuntu> is advanced mode hard to make a single partions and install it with windows
[03:37] <god__> "then type into a TTY session ", what does that mean? is that the terminal?
[03:38] <ubuntu> can someone show me where i can get help with this atleast
[03:38] <rocky_> pc: I just got a replacement hdd for another that failed awhile ago
[03:38] <ubuntu> no one ever can ansewr this problem
[03:38] <rocky_> XD
[03:38] <JackWat|Laptop> ubuntu: get gparted live cd and you can make your partitions that way
[03:38] <ubuntu> i have been asking for over a week
[03:38] <JackWat|Laptop> manually make your partitions
[03:38] <ubuntu> gparted?\
[03:38] <wgrant> spanther: The bug only exhibits itself when deleting (or lots of overwriting) files, so you can install and upgrade.
[03:38] <pc> rocky_: Windows seems to really like staying on the same partition on which is was installed
[03:38] <duffc> final comes out on the 23rd right?
[03:38] <JackWat|Laptop> ubuntu: yes
[03:38] <wgrant> ubuntu: System->Administration->Partition Editor.
[03:38] <wgrant> duffc: Yes.
[03:38] <DasEi> ubuntu: want to dualboot ?
[03:38] <duffc> cool
[03:38] <rocky_> JackWat: g-parted is included on ubuntu
[03:38] <pc> rocky_: is Windows in the same spot?
[03:38] <ubuntu> can I use it will under LIVE CD mode
[03:38] <John_Stamos> anyone?
[03:38] <JackWat|Laptop> ubuntu: ther eis a live cd. you can setup all your partions the way yo uwant, and then tell ubuntu where to install
[03:38] <wgrant> ubuntu: Yes, it's installed by default. In System->Administration.
[03:39] <rocky_> pc: idk
[03:39] <JackWat|Laptop> ubuntu: it is its own live cd.
[03:39] <god__> "then type into a TTY session ", what does that mean? is that the terminal?
[03:39] <wgrant> god__: A terminal, yes.
[03:39] <god__> thanks grant
[03:39] <god__> what does tty stand for?
[03:39] <rocky_> cya a little later :)
[03:39] <rocky_> I will get back to you if it works :)
[03:39] <JackWat|Laptop> who had that unmanaged networkmanager thing going on?
[03:39] <ubuntu> i have to install a live cd its not on the ubunto live cd
[03:39] <racecar56> same here.. also wondered what tty stands for
[03:39] <spanther> wgrant but if it freezes while installing/updating then because of this bug? :/
[03:39] <^Phantom^> how do i get rid
[03:39] <wgrant> god__: Teletypewriter. Good old days.
[03:39] <^Phantom^> wait
[03:39] <Mike_lifeguard> When you do some command in terminal that doesn't give you back the prompt, how can you get that to run as a detached process? Is screen the only way?
[03:40] <racecar56> lol
[03:40] <racecar56> k
[03:40] <wgrant> spanther: nThen you are very unlucky, I suppose.
[03:40] <god__> lol
[03:40] <DasEi> god__, the keyboard mostly, terminalblah..
[03:40] <god__> wow
[03:40] <JackWat|Laptop> ubuntu: get the gparted live cd. put it in your drive and boot. it is a partion manager.
[03:40] <wgrant> Mike_lifeguard: You can Ctrl+Z and type 'bg'.
[03:40] <ubuntu> OK I am in GPARTED in the live CD
[03:40] <solexious> How can I clone my disk If I have no cd drive and I cant boot from usb?
[03:40] <JackWat|Laptop> ubuntu: after you get your partions the way you want, boot with the ubuntu live cd
[03:40] <ubuntu> Can i work it from here
[03:40] <JackWat|Laptop> I assume so
[03:40] <wgrant> ubuntu: Yes. Now you can tell it to resize your Windows partition.
[03:40] <DasEi> solexious, dd f.e
[03:40] <ubuntu> I am using ubuntu live cd, and I am in GPARTED
[03:40] <Stupendoussteve> TTY: teletypewriter
[03:40] <ubuntu> can I install from here3
[03:40] <JackWat|Laptop> i believe so, ubuntu
[03:40] <solexious> DasEi, pardon?
[03:40] <centHOGG> ^Phantom^: ok what
[03:41] <^Phantom^> would it be easier for me to just dualboot the two oses on the primary (internal) drive?
[03:41] <JackWat|Laptop> That'd always be easier :P
[03:41] <DasEi> solexious, if you want a 1:1 copy, you can use cmd dd
[03:41] <DasEi> !clone
[03:42] <racecar56> ^Phantom^, thats what i do
[03:42] <wgrant> solexious: How on earth did you install Ubuntu?
[03:42] <wgrant> PXE?
[03:42] <racecar56> i dont even know how to use pxe
[03:42] <solexious> wgrant, back when I had a dd drive to use
[03:42] <DasEi> solexious, do you want to copy the whole hd ?
[03:42] <racecar56> i have support for it though
[03:42] <god__> grant will take a look at this link and tell me what you think of it?
[03:42] <centHOGG> !pxe
[03:42] <solexious> DasEi,Yes
[03:42] <god__> http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/08/howto-install-manually-nvidia-drivers.html
[03:42] <god__> or someone i dont care who
[03:42] <juls4> does anybody remember me???? The guy with the NVIDIA issues.
[03:42] <spanther> tomorrow 9.04 is out yay ^.^
[03:43] <^Phantom^> so i have two files i can delete
[03:43] <god__> your not the only one
[03:43] <^Phantom^> each is about 8gb a piece
[03:43] <JackWat|Laptop> every other guy in here has nvidia issues :P
[03:43] <DasEi> solexious, have you cdrom and can you attach a second drive ?
[03:43] <spanther> JackWat|Laptop nvidia issues? O.o tell me please
[03:43] <racecar56> i dont have nvidia issues
[03:43] <god__> juls, just for curiosity, whats your problem. mind you i cant help in anyway
[03:43] <JackWat|Laptop> i use ati :O
[03:43] <JackWat|Laptop> heh
[03:43] <solexious> No and only storage over a network
[03:43] <Mike_lifeguard> wgrant: ok, now when I try to exit it says there are stopped jobs.
[03:43] <^Phantom^> would 16~20 gb be good enough for ubuntu?
[03:43] <wgrant> Mike_lifeguard: 'disown'
[03:43] <genii> ^Phantom^: Yes
[03:43] <Mike_lifeguard> wgrant: is there a man page for this?
[03:43] <solexious> DasEi, No and only storage over a network
[03:43] <Mike_lifeguard> man bg doesn't exist
[03:43] <juls4> i think i've fucked up my computer. I've got 1680x1050 .. but now I don't have any like boarders on my windows. just the pages within windows. so I can't move anything. it's all static...
[03:44] <god__> i just want to know what else the nvidia is capable of not doing
[03:44] <DasEi> solexious, you want to backup files or double the OS ?
[03:44] <tritium> juls4: watch the language
[03:44] <JackWat|Laptop> juls4: there is a command to run
[03:44] <wgrant> Mike_lifeguard: They are built into the shell. Try 'man bash', then search in there.
[03:44] <Mike_lifeguard> ah, k
[03:44] <juls4> apologies for language.  Jackwat: what command?
[03:44] <god__> hey juls are you using proprietary drinvers for nvidia?
[03:44] <juls4> god_: yes
[03:45] <juls4> god_: they're evil.
[03:45] <god__> yeah
[03:45] <racecar56> juls4, hold alt and drag window
[03:45] <god__> they crash my box
[03:45] <solexious> DasEi, The drive is on its last legs so what ever I need to do to move it to a new one
[03:45] <racecar56> juls4, one way to move it
[03:45] <Stupendoussteve> racecar56: That doesn't help the borders being gone ;P
[03:45] <god__> i think i might have found a fix for that
[03:45] <fatakaa> hi
[03:45] <juls4> racecar56: thanks.
[03:45] <god__> I know i found linux drivers
[03:45] <^Phantom^>  first things first
[03:45] <DasEi> solexious, is the network linux, too ?
[03:45] <^Phantom^> what i want to do right now
[03:45] <^Phantom^> is
[03:46] <fatakaa> how do enable remote desktop through terminal?
[03:46] <tritium> !enter | ^Phantom^
[03:46] <racecar56> solexious, is it clickin'?
[03:46] <god__> they are here juls
[03:46] <fatakaa> how do i mean?
[03:46] <god__> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_180.51.html
[03:46] <pc> juls4: saw that same thing with the desktop effects enabled.  turning them off brought the window decorations back
[03:46] <tritium> god__: please don't recommend those.  There are drivers in the ubuntu repositories.
[03:46] <god__> and here is instalation guide
[03:46] <god__> there r?
[03:46] <solexious> racecar56, all manner of bad noises
[03:46] <tritium> god__: of course
[03:46] <fatakaa> do i have to login first in my desktop to let me login through remote desktop?
[03:46] <micahg> Has anyone used subcommander 2.0b4 against a subversion 1.4.2?
[03:46] <tritium> !nvidia | god__
[03:46] <god__> well ive been asking for them
[03:46] <JackWat|Laptop> juls4: try this command: gtk-window-decorator --replace
[03:46] <racecar56> solexious, ive never had my hard drive make nutty noises
[03:46] <solexious> DasEi, yes I have samba shares setup at the mo, but can so what ever is neded
[03:46] <god__> thanks BOT
[03:47] <racecar56> solexious, the whole computer for that matter
[03:47] <god__> and tri
[03:47] <racecar56> lol matrox
[03:47] <tritium> god__: you've been told about System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[03:47] <solexious> racecar56, neither me till now
[03:47] <spanther> god__ just visit System -> Administration there you find a point hardware drivers or so
[03:47] <god__> no not those
[03:47] <syntax\> I need to use two name servers, the 1st one is an intranet nameserver (192.168.1.1) and the other is a name server from my dsl. I have two NIC's one is for the intranet and the other is for the dsl. eth0 has the ip configuration for my dsl and eth1 has the ip for the intranet. both of which are on static configurations. if i was to set the intranet nameserver on the 1st line of /etc/resolv.conf, then id try to disable the dsl NIC resolving would be ok, the
[03:47] <syntax\> n if i was to try to reup the NIC that has the dsl config and disable the NIC that has the intranet resolving won't work. /etc/resolv.conf has the dsl nameserver on the 2nd line.
[03:47] <fatakaa> anyone?
[03:47] <god__> I keep telling you they kill out my boot screen
[03:47] <racecar56> solexious, what will you do to back up?
[03:47] <DasEi> solexious, so wheres the problem then ? copy the files over
[03:47] <spanther> god__ but they are the working ones precompiled for ur kernel
[03:47] <god__> no they arent, if they were working ones, then they would work
[03:47] <JackWat|Laptop> fatakaa: if you're using VNC then yes
[03:47] <solexious> DasEi, im not sure what files to copy :s
[03:47] <racecar56> god__, lol
[03:48] <juls4> pc: that worked. thank you.
[03:48] <tritium> god__: they do work.
[03:48] <god__> not force me to reinstall the entire os because it cant even render black
[03:48] <fatakaa> JackWat|Laptop: what do you mean yes?
[03:48] <juls4> I hope I don't need to go through this every reboot???
[03:48] <racecar56> god__, i like how you said "if they were working ones, then they would work"
[03:48] <JackWat|Laptop> you asked a yes or no questoin right?
[03:48] <DasEi> fatakaa, there are different solutions you can call from cmd-line which will launch a gtk, if you just want a terminal, use ssh
[03:48] <god__> well that was obvious
[03:48] <^Phantom^> here's my plan of action:  1.  remove the current ubuntu entries from grub (which point to external hard drive), so i can boot WITHOUT having to have it plugged in, 2.  repartition,  3.  install ubuntu to the new partition
[03:48] <kb1hzm> anyone  know of good ham radio programs for ubuntu
[03:48] <fatakaa> yes like i need to desktop login first before i can be able to  do remote desktop?
[03:48] <god__> if they are the right ones, then why does my screen go black?
[03:48] <jelly-bean> JackWat|Laptop: did you find the networkmanager cmd?
[03:48] <JackWat|Laptop> jelly-bean
[03:49] <syntax\> anyone :(
[03:49] <wgrant> god__: Because you've found a bug.
[03:49] <spanther> god__ which chip is your gpu ?
[03:49] <^Phantom^> here's a question though, can i create the empty partition from within windows?
[03:49] <tritium> god__: you have hardware issues
[03:49] <fatakaa> DasEi: i can ssh in my desktop now but i need to do remote desktop and i need the console way to run remote desktop
[03:49] <JackWat|Laptop> jelly-bean: iwconfig <interface> mode managed
[03:49] <tritium> god__: which driver are you selecting?
[03:49] <wgrant> ^Phantom^: You could, but why? Windows isn't awesome at partition management.
[03:49] <jelly-bean> JackWat|Laptop: i've seen this one but isn't it for wireless not wired connections?
[03:49] <spanther> god__ tell us your GPU and your driver version used
[03:49] <racecar56> wgrant, your right about that
[03:49] <god__> ok, 3 things, How do report this bug, how do i find out wich chip my gpu is and how can i debug these issues
[03:49] <JackWat|Laptop> ^Phantom^: get gparted :P
[03:50] <spanther> god__ lspci shows you all hardware
[03:50] <tritium> god__: before you report any bugs, we need more info.  Which drivers are you selecting?
[03:50] <^Phantom^> srsly thoutgh
[03:50] <jelly-bean> JackWat|Laptop: Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) : SET failed on device eth0 ; Operation not supported.
[03:50] <^Phantom^> though*
[03:50] <kindofabuzz> they were serious
[03:50] <DasEi> solexious, /home will contain most of your private files, /etc configs, dpkg-get selections > pak.txt generates a list of installed packages
[03:50] <fatakaa> DasEi and JackWat|Laptop : i followed this site http://www.samlesher.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-704-enabledisable-remote-desktop-from-the-command-line but still i cant login through vnc client
[03:51] <^Phantom^> will doing the partitioning within windows mess up grub at all?
[03:51] <JackWat|Laptop> jelly-bean: gimmie one second
[03:51] <god__> ok ill go over this again. When i choose the proprietary drivers for nvidia graphics card (i have hp g60 123cl. im not sure of chipset) i get sent to reboot. When I do that the screen goes black at the splash screen and stops there
[03:51] <racecar56> ^Phantom^, i would never use windows to do it
[03:51] <tritium> god__: which ones?  nvidia-glx-180?  -177?  -173?
[03:51] <racecar56> ^Phantom^, i highly reccomend gparted
[03:51] <pyen> !bg
[03:51] <racecar56> i use -180
[03:52] <solexious> DasEi, So if I copy that, then install ubuntu on a new hdd then copy it back? *idiot checking :)*
[03:52] <wgrant> ^Phantom^: Windows has a habit of mangling partition tables. People have had it break GRUB. Why not use gparted?
[03:52] <fatakaa> anyways if i can ssh to my desktop,how can i loadthe gnome desktop of my user?
[03:52] <JackWat|Laptop> fatakaa: i think you still have to be logged in for that to work
[03:52] <god__> it never tells me, i only remember it said nvidia-glx-new. although i did try 177. After i installed the lnux headers because ubuntu forum doesnt mention that you need them
[03:52] <god__> but someone else did
[03:53] <fatakaa> JackWat|Laptop: im on ssh on that desktop,how can i login the gnome desktop through ssh console?
[03:53] <kindofabuzz> ^Phantom^, you know you can just move your grub to another hard drive, really no need in reinstalling the whole OS, or you could psuedo-install and just skip to the grub part.
[03:53] <DasEi> solexious, you can copy /home back, re-install the packages from the list BUT mussn't just copy /etc, but can get the configs out there
[03:53] <kindofabuzz> !grub | ^Phantom^
[03:53] <JackWat|Laptop> fatakaa: you can setup gnome to auto-login. thats what i do.
[03:53] <juls4> I have full resolution now. But when I reboot it starts up at a resolution 1400x150 which is out of range. It's blue/black and has vertical lines down my screen. The mouse continually jumps from top to bottom. It took me about 10 minutes to navigate to NVIDIA settings to reset it (only to find 1680x1050 to my suprise). How do I make 1680x1050 default via nvidia settings and stop it booting in an undetectable range. I don't want to use xandr because that hasn't wo
[03:53] <god__> sorry i crashed
[03:53] <tritium> god__: you might want to try -180.
[03:54] <spanther> god__ tried typing "lspci" in console and looking for your graphics card?
[03:54] <solexious> DasEi, Ok thanks
[03:54] <^Phantom^> k
[03:54] <fatakaa> JackWat|Laptop: i dont want to do auto login as of now i just nee to login desktop login through ssh console but i dont know how and i dont know if it's possible
[03:54] <DasEi> solexious, best is then not to mess with usernames (home), else copy just the files, not the whole dir
[03:54] <god__> i typed "lspci" i got alot of info back
[03:54] <JackWat|Laptop> fatakaa: that i do not know
[03:54] <god__> what do you need from it?
[03:54] <tritium> god__: lspci | grep VGA
[03:54] <spanther> god__ just look for the line saying "nvidia"
[03:54] <^Phantom^> here's what i want to do:  remove the current ubuntu install from the grub on my internal drive completely, so i can boot without having the drive plugged in
[03:55] <god__> all the lines have nvidia in them, be more specific
[03:55] <pc> juls4: sudo nivia-settings
[03:55] <tritium> god__: see my advice above
[03:55] <^Phantom^> what os do I need to use to do that?
[03:56] <JackWat|Laptop> ^Phantom^: take a look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:56] <god__> ~$ lspci | grep VGA
[03:56] <god__> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0845 (rev a2)
[03:56] <^Phantom^> (i will log into the chat from another computer)
[03:56] <juls4> pc: sudo: nivia-settings: command not found
[03:56] <^Phantom^> can i access that from windows?
[03:56] <pc> oops
[03:56] <god__> what does that mean?
[03:56] <pc> juls4: nvidia-settings
[03:56] <JackWat|Laptop> ^Phantom^: if you can access your linux drive you can
[03:57] <god__> im not sure if im even giving the right info here
[03:57] <juls4> pc: Yeah, i'm already in the gui. but how do you make it default? by just selecting it? Should I write it to the xorg.conf file once i've selected 1680x1050?
[03:57] <^Phantom^> well, it seems i can't access the linux drive within windows
[03:58] <^Phantom^> i'll reboot into linux, brb
[03:58] <jelly-bean> so does anyone here actually have Network Manager working in 8.10 for their wired eth0 ?
[03:58] <pc> juls4: yes, write it
[03:58] <joanki123> i'm trying to shut down my computer and i get a message that says that there is an unknown program running , but i don't see any programs running.  how can i find out what it is?
[03:58] <ablmf> After I type my password, it took a long time to finish my ssh login.
[03:58] <racecar56> is there a fglrx for ati hd pro 2400 in 9.04
[03:58] <ablmf> I think maybe it's because I modified my resolve.confg
[03:58] <racecar56> is there a fglrx for ati hd pro 2400 in 9.04?
[03:58] <god__> umm... still lost here
[03:59] <ablmf> Does any one know how to fix it?
[03:59] <DasEi> <joanki123 top,htop
[03:59] <juls4> So I guess my card doesn't support compiz at the max resolution. That's a pitty. I liked the new notification system.
[03:59] <pc> god__: according to the pci.ids file, you have a NVIDIA C77 [GeForce 8200M G]
[03:59] <joanki123> DasEi, what is that?
[03:59] <joanki123> top, htop?
[03:59] <DasEi> !info top
[03:59] <DasEi> !info htop
[03:59] <tritium> god__: that's quite new.  Please try nvidia-glx-180
[04:00] <^P|snoozing> okay i'm on diferent machine right now, booting into linux on the one in question
[04:00] <DasEi> joanki123 type  top in trml, or install htop, then htop
[04:00] <fearthenofear> I have a problem with java. Firefox is showing that I have two versions of java installed. One is the newest one and the other is a 1.6.0_7. How do i get rid of the older one or disable it?
[04:00]  * unko is away: time for some good old fasioned sleep
[04:00] <JackWat|Laptop> juls4: did that command not work for you?
[04:01] <joanki123> oh i don't know what trml is
[04:01] <DasEi> !trml
[04:01] <lstarnes> joanki123: he meant terminal
[04:01] <DasEi> !cmd
[04:01] <tritium> !away > unko
[04:01] <racecar56> fail
[04:01] <^Phantom^> can i do that stuff from the grub itself?
[04:02] <DasEi> joanki123 terminal , alt-f2 > gnome-termial, I go fishing..
[04:02] <^Phantom^> can i remove the linux entries from the grub command line?
[04:02] <juls4> JackWat|Laptop: I didn't use it once I disabled the effects. I'll re-enable them and try your command if you would be kind enough to repost it
[04:02] <fatakaa> btw,how do i know in console or text based through ssh if someone has login through gnome desktop login?
[04:02] <JackWat|Laptop> fearthenofear: try sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:02] <DasEi> !terminal | , joanki123
[04:02] <fearthenofear> ok
[04:02] <joejc> where would i go for help with ubuntu JEOS?
[04:03] <JackWat|Laptop> juls4: gtk-window-decorator --replace
[04:03] <^Phantom^> can i remove the linux entries from the grub command line?  if so, how would i do that?
[04:03] <Sertse> do we know the jaunty theme /wallpaper yet
[04:03] <pc> jelly-bean: I had a problem for a long time with NM and wired
[04:03] <pc> seems to work now
[04:03] <Sertse> is it still secret till final final
[04:03] <racecar56> any way to clear alt+f2 entries? if there isn't a way then im glad i avoid it
[04:03] <kindofabuzz> ^Phantom^, /sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:03] <jelly-bean> pc: how did u fix?
[04:03] <jelly-bean> pc: i am dying to know
[04:04] <DasEi> Phantom , yes /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:04] <^Phantom^> •kindofabuzz• that command from the grub command line?
[04:04] <pc> jelly-bean: are you up-to-date?  seems like the problem just went away sometime within the last month or so
[04:04] <JackWat|Laptop> jelly-bean: NetworkManager labels them 'unmaged' if its being managed by another program? im not sure how to fix that
[04:04] <fearthenofear> 3 alternatives showed up
[04:04] <jelly-bean> JackWat|Laptop: well i did do some configuration in /etc/network/interfaces but i could remove that
[04:04] <kindofabuzz> ^Phantom^,  from a command line yes
[04:05] <JackWat|Laptop> fearthenofear: choose the one that has 'sun' in it
[04:05] <jelly-bean> pc: how can i tell? i think i am.. i always run the updates when they are suggested
[04:05] <fearthenofear> ok
[04:05] <DasEi>  joanki123 , found your process ?
[04:05] <pc> jelly-bean: then you probably are
[04:05] <pc> I never have figured out where NM stuffs it's config info
[04:05] <juls4> JackWat|Laptop: I'm afraid it doesn't do anything except go to a new line, not giving me a new command line - it seems to become unresponsive.
[04:05] <tritium> pc: /etc/NetworkManager/
[04:06] <joanki123> DasEi, i did that, .... how do i know which it is?
[04:06] <god__> is there an apt-get for nvidia-glx-180 (64)?
[04:06] <pc> tritium: I see files there, but nothing interesting
[04:06] <joanki123> these are the programs running:  Xorg, compiz.real, hald, init, DasEi
[04:07] <fearthenofear> still showing up the older version in firefox
[04:07] <joanki123> does anyone know what Xorg is?
[04:07] <DasEi>  joanki123 , what/when did you get which error again ?
[04:07] <lstarnes> joanki123: it's the display server
[04:07] <joanki123> when I go to "shut down"
[04:07] <^Phantom^> ×kindofabuzz× i entered that command
[04:08] <lstarnes> joanki123: you need it for graphical programs to run
[04:08] <joanki123> it says "a program is still running:"
[04:08] <JackWat|Laptop> heh
[04:08] <joanki123> i'm just worried that a program i created in C++ is causing this
[04:08] <joanki123> i've never seen this before
[04:08] <^Phantom^> i now have what looks line a menu of some kiind
[04:08] <joanki123> is it normal, lstarnes for Xorg to be running?
[04:08] <kindofabuzz> ^Phantom^, well there you go, edit whatever you need edited
[04:08] <jelly-bean> just tried  this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-923998.html
[04:08] <jelly-bean> rebooting...
[04:08] <lstarnes> joanki123: almost certainly yes
[04:08] <JackWat|Laptop> xorg is always running
[04:08] <^Phantom^> i'm toally new to this, so can i please get some help?
[04:08] <joanki123> what weirds me out is it says thet program is "unknown"
[04:08] <tritium> joanki123: without it, you'd have no graphical desktop
[04:09] <joanki123> so how do i find out what it is?
[04:09] <joanki123> could it be my c++ program, even though i killed that terminal?
[04:09] <DasEi> Phantom , sure, might pm me ?
[04:09] <joanki123> the terminal i ran it in, that is
[04:09] <god__> is there an apt-get for nvidia-glx-180 (64)?
[04:09] <joejc> how long does scanning mirror take?
[04:09] <fearthenofear> i restarted firefox and it still showed up that here as an older version of java running
[04:09] <joanki123> i could just "Logout Anyway" but this behavior bothers me
[04:09] <lstarnes> god__: you might want to check aptitude search nvidia-glx
[04:09] <tritium> god__: sudo apt-get intsall nvidia-glx-180
[04:09] <DasEi>  joanki123 , if you ran in an own window which you closed, it's dead
[04:09] <ticos> Can ubuntu be installed on an external hard drive and be run by an intel mac?
[04:10] <tritium> god__: install, rather
[04:10] <joanki123> ok DasEi i'm gonna force exit
[04:10] <joanki123> THANKS all
[04:10] <DasEi> ticos: yes, if bios supports booting external
[04:11] <DasEi>  joanki123 , killall <app> kills the children-procs, too
[04:11] <DasEi> while kill <pid> just kills the parents-proc
[04:12] <fearthenofear> what else should i do with this java deal?
[04:12] <^Phantom^> what the crap am i doing here?
[04:12] <^Phantom^> what do i change and remove and stuff?
[04:12] <fatakaa> how do i enable vnc server with desktop?
[04:12] <DasEi> Phantom , mind pm ?
[04:13] <ticos> DasEi: how can i tell if bios supports?
[04:13] <tritium> !info nvidia-glx-180
[04:13] <tritium> god__: ^^ it's there.  See above.
[04:14] <seyfarth> Hey guys, i'm having trouble running ubuntu x64 on my new desktop. I installed, but when I rebooted instead of getting a login screen I just get a blank white screen
[04:14] <DasEi> ticos: attach external, check bios > boot from...
[04:15] <wgrant> DasEi: Intel Macs don't use BIOS.
[04:16] <hollister69> can anyone help me out with a Nautilus problem?
[04:16] <wgrant> !ask | hollister69
[04:16] <mikechelen> is it possible to use a bluetooth headset with ubuntu?
[04:16] <fearthenofear> anyone to know what else to do when firefox is showing up 2 versions of java?
[04:16] <Scunizi> tritium: not a good driver.. .11 had issues for most
[04:16] <wgrant> mikechelen: Yes.
[04:16] <tritium> Scunizi: depends on your hardware.
[04:16] <Scunizi> tritium: probably..
[04:16] <n8tuser> fearthenofear -> which version shows up under  update-alternatives ?
[04:16] <tritium> Scunizi: in his case, his hardware is new, and best supported by it.
[04:17] <mikechelen> wgrant, what is the proper method? will it work if the headset does not have a2dp?
[04:17] <seyfarth> Hey guys, i'm having trouble running ubuntu x64 on my new desktop. I installed, but when I rebooted instead of getting a login screen I just get a blank white screen. It's a top of the line machine with a great graphics card, so could it be a driver issue? Any advice?
[04:17] <tritium> Scunizi: works quite well with my 9400.
[04:17] <racecar56> STILL going CrAzY without the dumb FGLRX
[04:17] <racecar56> i wish it would work!
[04:17] <wgrant> mikechelen: I don't quite know, but Google returns some promising results.
[04:17] <wgrant> racecar56: Aren't proprietary drivers great?
[04:17] <manpoole> x2 64 bit 5000 amd with 2 gigs of ram should i give 64 bit ubuntu a try?
[04:17] <racecar56> firefox scrolls horrible
[04:17] <Scunizi> tritium: mine is fairly new too.. sort of... gforce 8200.. the latest from nvidia work SOOOO much better then the .11 driver there's really no comparrison
[04:17] <DasEi> wgrant : don't they boot externals ?
[04:18] <racecar56> wgrant, i wish my card was oss-conpatible
[04:18] <wgrant> DasEi: They probably can, but giving usual instructions for BIOS isn't going to do any good.
[04:18] <pc> manpoole: why not?  (running that here, btw)
[04:18] <fearthenofear>  /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java,  /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java,   /usr/bin/cacao
[04:18] <wgrant> racecar56: Isn't it?
[04:18] <fearthenofear> 1,2,3 respectively
[04:18] <tritium> Scunizi: I believe it
[04:18] <manpoole> could you notice performance gains?
[04:18] <racecar56> wgrant, in my case, it sure makes things less crazy
[04:18] <manpoole> from 32 bit ubuntu?
[04:18] <pc> manpoole: I didn't do a 32bit install to compare
[04:19] <wgrant> fearthenofear: Maybe remove the sun-java6-jre package.
[04:19] <pc> manpoole: but I do a fair amount of video, so thought 64bit might be the best place to start
[04:19] <fearthenofear> how do i do that via terminal?
[04:19] <BrickRisk> Anyone know why the 8.04 64bit install cd would mess up after selecting any option from the gui? All I get is a blinking cursor in the left hand corner of the screen
[04:20] <wgrant> fearthenofear: sudo apt-get remove sun-java6-jre
[04:20] <DasEi> ticos: yes, if bios supports booting external, read wgrant ?
[04:20] <BrickRisk> I've tried no spash and other options but nothing is ever displayed just a blinking cursor
[04:20] <wgrant> DasEi: ticos' Mac doesn't have a BIOS.
[04:21] <racecar56> mac dosen't have a bios? O_o
[04:21] <racecar56> ive never used one before
[04:21] <mikechelen> wgrant, it gets paired okay, not sure what to do next, the wiki seems out of date
[04:21] <wgrant> racecar56: Intel Macs use EFI.
[04:21] <wgrant> racecar56: The replacement for BIOS.
[04:21] <racecar56> wgrant, ahh
[04:21] <racecar56> wgrant, i saw a rss about that the other day
[04:22] <Lasivian> what setting controls how a window is opened by default? everything keeps trying to open full-screened and I have no idea where to go to change that (My google-fu is failing me)ok, so the System monitor shows only the things using my first processor, but the seocnd CPU is showing 100% usage
[04:22] <Lasivian> how can I show what processes are using the second CPU?
[04:22] <mib_jyrwiwuq> Is Wubi(http://wubi-installer.org/) being updated for Jaunty? I havent seen any information about weather or not its being updated so I thought I would ask.
[04:22] <fearthenofear> cool, that worked, only shows up the newer version. thanks!
[04:22] <usser> ticos, wgrant try refit, its a boot manager for mac, it can boot usb
[04:23] <ticos> I'm looking around Disk Utility, nothing really of use... I have successfully booted OSX off of the external hd, does that mean ubuntu would work too
[04:23] <usser> ticos, wgrant as well as linux windows mac osx or any other
[04:23] <mikechelen> Lasivian, by full screen, you mean maximized? are you looking at the filesystem or running a program
[04:23] <seyfarth> I need to install the proprietary ati driver from the terminal, but I don't feel like hauling my desktop across the house to my router. Any way I can use wireless?
[04:23] <mib_jyrwiwuq> Is Wubi(http://wubi-installer.org/) being updated for Jaunty? I havent seen any information about weather or not its being updated so I thought I would ask.
[04:24] <juls4> Hey guys, after replacing my xorg.conf file with one NVIDIA settings wrote my pc keeps starting up with 1600x1050 instead of 1650x1050. It's out of range and it kind of makes my monitor go nuts. I've tried selecting both 1650x1050 & auto select (replacing xorg.conf file each time) but it still reverts back to 1600x1050. Any suggestions?
[04:24] <pc> juls4: it's not 1680x1050?
[04:24] <wgrant> mib_jyrwiwuq: It's on the Jaunty CDs. It works fine.
[04:24] <juls4> pc: yeah sorry, it is. I've just been going at this for hours now.
[04:25] <wgrant> seyfarth: Why must you do it from a terminal?
[04:25] <pc> one option is to just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand
[04:25] <Lasivian> mikechelen: I found what's doing it in top, thanks tho
[04:25] <mikechelen> juls4, what nvidia chipset, and do you have the proprietary drivers enabled?
[04:25] <juls4> pc: 1680x1050 is the correct resolution - 1600x1050 is what i'm getting. What should I edit?
[04:25] <mikechelen> Lasivian, ok cool, yeah top can have more details that sys mon, also could try htop
[04:26] <pc> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:26] <mib_jyrwiwuq> @wgrant Can I install the new jaunty version by downloading the wubi file from the website and choosing the version i want?
[04:26] <Lasivian> mikechelen: figured out that khubd is taking 85% cpu time :S
[04:26] <jcapinc> hey has anyone else noticed openoffice word processor interfering with compiz fusion?
[04:26] <juls4> pc: which line. i'm not sure what I should be editing. Its full of 1280 1024 (which was what i was originally getting as my max.. i don't know why that's even in there).
[04:27] <wgrant> mib_jyrwiwuq: I'm not sure, but you can use the official Ubuntu one. You can see it next to the normal ISOs at http://releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid/, for example. Down the bottom.
[04:27] <crdlb> jcapinc: define "interfering"
[04:27] <wgrant> mib_jyrwiwuq: The same thing will apply for Jaunty.
[04:27] <Scunizi> jcapinc: nope
[04:27] <jcapinc> I use gnome-do and whenever I have openoffice up the colors absolutely freak out on the docky bar, and window borders phase in and out
[04:27] <Lasivian> how can I restart khubd?
[04:27] <pc> juls4: is 1600x1050 in there?
[04:28] <pc> juls4: btw, it's certainly odd behaviour you are seeing
[04:28] <god__> ok I can understand not wanting to support satanic edition because it isnt official. but there is no reason why you should call people pathetic for using it. That makes the ubuntu comunity look bad.
[04:28] <mib_jyrwiwuq> Thats for intrepid not jaunty, jaunty doesnt have the installer
[04:28] <Scunizi> jcapinc: are you using the gnome-do doc? like Awn?
[04:28] <juls4> mikechelen: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev a2), and yes - proprietary
[04:29] <mib_jyrwiwuq> http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ has no wubi
[04:29] <jcapinc> Scunizi, yes, that is what is freaking out the most, but both the OO.o window and other window borders freak out a little too
[04:29] <mib_jyrwiwuq> thats why i was wondering
[04:29] <crdlb> jcapinc: what GPU?
[04:29] <mikechelen> juls4, with that chipset you may want to try picking an older version of the driver, or using envyng to help pick
[04:29] <jcapinc> crdlb, nvidia, do you want spacific?
[04:29] <Scunizi> jcapinc: have you tried gnome-do without the doc to see if it's something the doc is doing?
[04:30] <crdlb> jcapinc: are you using the -96 driver?
[04:30] <jcapinc> Scunizi, no I just noticed it, let me try that
[04:30] <Kimi> i installed ubuntu in frnd by resizing C /// now , he wants to reinstall xp sp3 by formatting his C drive and installing xp sp3 into it agagin.. will it anyway affect the installed ubuntu ??????
[04:30] <deadflow> ?
[04:30] <pc> juls4: nvidia's web site points to the -96 drivers for that chip
[04:31] <Lasivian> ok, the system is not allowing me to kill the khubd process
[04:31] <racecar56> still waiting...
[04:31] <juls4> pc: http://pastebin.com/d628faf4a
[04:31] <juls4> pc: that's what i'm using.
[04:31] <Scunizi> Kimi: yes.. you'll end up having to reinstall grub
[04:31] <Lasivian> how can I restart it?
[04:31] <RandomUsr> i want to organize gnome  like OS X and theme my window decorator like OS X.  How can I do this?
[04:31] <racecar56> i hate all if this idiotic lagging
[04:31] <jcapinc> crdlb, no im using version 177, and im only using that because 180 had moniter recognition problems
[04:31] <powderluv> kimi: it shouldn't affect the ubuntu install, however your grub menu will need to be reinstalled
[04:32] <philsf> !grub | Kimi
[04:32] <pc> juls4: you may want to revert to the -96 driver
[04:32] <philsf> Kimi, you'll need to follow the link above to get into ubuntu after reinstalling XP
[04:32] <racecar56> my computer is acting like i have VGA or something...
[04:32] <Lasivian> I guess rebooting is the only way eh?
[04:32] <jcapinc> Scunizi, alright I have tried what you suggest it, I can narrow it down to  OO.o because when I close docky, windows still behave improperly, as in when I hover over the minimize, max and close buttons it causes the window border on any window to phase in and out of visibility
[04:33] <juls4> pc: 96.43.10 - that's what I'm using. What should I revert to?
[04:33] <pc> juls4: actually, for 32bit, it points to the -180 driver :-/
[04:33] <juls4> pc: hmmmmm, now I'm confused.
[04:33] <Stanlin> Help plz, i have his problem http://pastebin.com/m6f52d6d9
[04:33] <pc> juls4: are you just using nividia-glx-96 ?
[04:34] <Scunizi> jcapinc: perhaps you'll also need to restart OO
[04:34] <jcapinc> Scunizi, yea,  tried that same issue, I actually closed all my programs and restarted everything, in fact thats how I found the problem
[04:34] <Stanlin> help?
[04:35] <Scunizi> jcapinc: do you have java turned on in the OO setup?
[04:36] <jcapinc> Scunizi, uh no, I actually dont know anything about that, OO is written in java?
[04:36] <juls4> pc: all it says is 96.43.10
[04:37] <Scunizi> jcapinc: nevermind.. you have to turn it on, on purpose.. not really needed.. still.. it might be that 177 driver you're using.  I really didn't like that one.. have you tried the 173 or the 180.11?
[04:37] <pc> juls4: how'd you install it? by hand, or the ubuntu way? :-)
[04:37] <seyfarth> WOW my sprint aircard works out of the box with ubuntu. I am IMPRESSED
[04:37] <juls4> the ubuntu way
[04:37] <jshriver> greetings
[04:38] <noIdeasOriginal> alright everyone, i was able to boot up on the PC woohooo.. now i have a question regarding creating a partition as well as setting up the initial user name
[04:38] <juls4> PC: via the 'hardware drivers'
[04:38] <jshriver> how do I make apache execute .pl scripts as cgi? I added all of the libapache2-mod-perl stuff
[04:38] <juls4> pc: ubuntu promoted me to install it, so yeah, the ubuntu way.
[04:38] <campee> has anyone experienced ubuntu 9.04 RC being unable to change your resolution?
[04:38] <jelly-bean> JackWat|Laptop, pc: ya that url earlier was the fix. just had to change the NetworkManger config to 'managed' and then i also had to undo all my changes to /etc/network/interfaces and then reboot and now my networkmanager works
[04:38] <jcapinc> Scunizi, huh, funny update, it only seems to cause problems when openoffice has focus, and I really dont want to mess with my video drivers, I did before and it was a nightmare to get my settings back, so if thats really all we can come to as the problem I will just deal with it, its nvidia's proprietary crap and not ubuntus
[04:39] <juls4> campee: YEEEEEEEES ...... :/
[04:39] <campee> i changed my resolution to something lower than what it was originally and now i can't change it back. i've tried renaming xorg.conf and generating a new one and it doesn't fix it.
[04:39] <Scunizi> jcapinc: k.. you might ask in OO's channel as well.. they might know something that we don't here.
[04:39] <TimothyA> http://www.bunny-comic.com/strips/180109.jpg :O
[04:39] <juls4> campee: I suggest you just leave the xorg.conf alone. It only makes things worse for me o_0
[04:39] <campee> juls4: what type of vid card do you have?
[04:40] <campee> it made no difference in my case
[04:40] <jcapinc> Scunizi, I will try but I suspect there will be few linux users there, thank you for all your help and thought
[04:40] <noIdeasOriginal> so i did the partition and then it asked who i was and to fill all that in... so i did but it wasn't letting me move forward. says username must start with a lower case letter which i did... why wasn't it letting me move on? then i hit back by mistake and took me back to partition again and i saw the 35% free space. but it was asking to partition AGAIN... can't i re-choose the partition i did initially or is that lost space now????
[04:40] <Scunizi> jcapinc: np.. you'd be supprised.. I've had good exprience there.
[04:40] <juls4> campee: I think its legacy now. 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev a2)
[04:40] <jcapinc> Scunizi, thanks, which channel is that exactly?
[04:41] <pc> juls4: ok, ignore me, then.  very strange behavior...not sure why the 1280x1024 stuff is in there, shouldn't have an impact, tho
[04:41] <Dominicus> Can anyone help me with aptitude/apt-get/dpkg...? http://pastebin.com/d59a132b4
[04:41] <noIdeasOriginal> i figured out the issue i was having with nvidia and the whole aperture / IOMMU problem
[04:41] <campee> juls4: i have an intel 845
[04:41] <Scunizi> jcapinc: I believe it's #openoffice.org but I'm not sure what server.. you'll have to check their site
[04:41] <Kimi> philsf, Scunizi thnks
[04:42] <Scunizi> jcapinc: didn't ask.. do you have compiz turned on?
[04:42] <noIdeasOriginal> can someone help me out quickly
[04:42] <Stanlin> Help plz, i have his problem http://pastebin.com/m6f52d6d9
[04:43] <lanoxx> i installed libphp-jpgraph do i have to explicitely activate this mod in php.ini?
[04:43] <jcapinc> Scunizi, ah, its not on freenode, lol this server is all I ever IRC on, I forgot there were others! LOL yes I have compiz turned on, I actually used the compiz-icon to reload compiz and switch between metacity and compiz, so I know for darn sure its on
[04:43] <Stanlin> !hibernate
[04:43] <Stanlin> !sleep
[04:43] <Stanlin> !power
[04:43] <jcapinc> !sex
[04:44] <Scunizi> jcapinc: does the issue persist after turning compiz off?
[04:44] <Kimi> Scunizi, what must i replace in x and y here ? grub> root (hdX,Y)
[04:44] <jcapinc> Scunizi, no, it does not, but the gnome-do bar does not like the lack of compiz
[04:44] <tritium> jcapinc: cut it out
[04:44] <sancho21> What is the best way to add virus filtering? I have squid installed
[04:44] <Jordan_U> Dominicus, Can you please pastebin the output from "sudo sh -e -x /etc/init.d/acpid stop" ?
[04:44] <jcapinc> tritium, I iz sorry!  I was just being silly!  I only did it once ...
[04:45] <Scunizi> jcapinc: catch 22 if you know what that is.
[04:45] <seyfarth> I get a white screen at boot unless I force ubuntu into low-resolution mode. Anyone have any advice?
[04:45] <jcapinc> Scunizi, indeed, and I do know
[04:46] <Scunizi> Kimi: I've no idea.. the restore link for grub should tell you how to find the right numbers
[04:46] <jcapinc> tritium, I just wanted it to say "ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about sex"
[04:46] <Scunizi> !grub | Kimi
[04:46] <Kimi> Scunizi, ok.. thanks
[04:46] <Jordan_U> seyfarth, Most likely your graphics drivers are having a problem which is causing compiz not to render properly, most of the time disabling compiz will allow you to see the desktop but you probably still will have the underlying driver problem
[04:47] <blag> does anybody know of a guide to getting mpx to work on ubuntu?
[04:47] <Kimi> is it possible to add an icon near the clock in task bar so that when i use that the cd drive must eject and again click on that, the cd drive must get back in to it ???
[04:47] <seyfarth> Jordan_U: So is there a long-term solution you can think of?
[04:47] <macvr> hi all... i'm trying to check for log about my hibernate failure , which logs do i have to check in?
[04:48] <jcapinc> blag that depends a great deal on what mpx is
[04:48] <mikechelen> multipointer x
[04:48] <Dominicus> Jordan_U: Here's the result tacked onto the end of the original pastebin... http://pastebin.com/d2dfd5794
[04:48] <juls4> pc: something sure is having an impact. should I launch this as a bug?
[04:48] <blag> jcapinc: multi-pointer X
[04:48] <Jordan_U> Kimi, Yes, there may be one pre-made and if not you can make one easily with a launcher that uses the "eject" command
[04:49] <mikechelen> blag, have you found any debian mpx guides?
[04:49] <Kimi> Jordan_U, premade preferable :P
[04:49] <jcapinc> blag, well that sounds exciting, but I know nothing about it
[04:50] <Kimi> Scunizi, in this link : do i need to do quick start topic alone or i must follow the overwriting thing also ??
[04:50] <Kimi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[04:50] <blag> mikechelen: havent looked yet.  i figure its fairly easy because its already in xserver-xorg, but how do i get it to actually recognize mltiple pointers?
[04:51] <Kimi> Scunizi, i mean, the first quick start topic is enough or i must follow the second topic there too ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[04:51] <blag> mikechelen: i should have said i havent looked at debian guides yet
[04:51] <Scunizi> Kimi: if you're recovering grub after installing windows then you'll follow the second as well.
[04:52] <null_> hey, i was trying to build fltk, i compiled it okay, but when i tried "sudo make install" i got the error "Missing root.tar.gz !" I Googled this erre, and only got one result which was not at all helpful. anybody got any ideas?
[04:52] <Kimi> Scunizi, ok .. is it easy :P ??
[04:52] <Kimi> Jordan_U, ? can you help with pre-made or command plz ?
[04:52] <Scunizi> Kimi: as easy as it looks.. you might try just the first part "quick start" and try it to see if it worked.. if not go back and do the second part
[04:53] <Kimi> Scunizi, okk ! B-) thanks
[04:53] <Jordan_U> Kimi, If there is a pre-made solution you'll have to find it yourself, if you want to make one just right click the panel -> Add to Panel -> Custom Launcher -> in the command box put "eject -T" ( make sure you capitalize the T or it will always try to close the tray )
[04:54] <Kimi> Jordan_U, how to close it with the same icon ??
[04:54] <Jordan_U> Kimi, "eject -T" means that it will close the tray if its open and open it if it's closed
[04:54] <Kimi> have a q not related to ubuntu........ how do i make others not to use my nick ??
[04:54] <Jordan_U> Kimi, So that's all
 have a q not related to ubuntu........ how do i make others not to use my nick ??  <-- nickserv
[04:55] <Jordan_U> !register | Kimi
[04:55] <Kimi> Jordan_U, wow ! thanks... in my xp , i had to install someX thing....... thanks very mucuh
[04:55] <Jordan_U> Kimi, Registering the nick won't prevent other users from using it but you will be able to kick them off if they do :)
[04:56] <Kimi> Jordan_U, ok :P i want to kick them off :P :P
[04:56] <Jordan_U> Dominicus, That's interesting that the script did not fail, can you try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and confirm that it still fails when called from the removal script?
[04:58] <Dominicus__> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/d40d29f94
[04:59] <Jordan_U> Dominicus, OK, then try aptitude reinstall again
[04:59] <alex__>  /join #ingo
[04:59] <alex__> join/ #ingo
[04:59] <MarkJones> Does anyone know if there is a printable size image of the Jaunty CD/DVD label? I was gonna make a nice lightscribe labeled disc here for the new release.
[05:00] <gg> When I boot into GDM, my mouse and keyboard don't work. The keyboard works in the command prompt (when I boot into recovery mode). When I restart HAL from command prompt and enter gdm, the keyboard and mouse work. But if I reboot the computer, it stops working again.
[05:00] <Dominicus> Jordan_U: reinstall of aptitude, or acpid?
[05:00] <Jordan_U> Dominicus, acpid
[05:01] <Guest26730> reconfigure x.org?
[05:01] <Jordan_U> gg, Are you using any non-standard repositories ?
[05:02] <Dominicus> http://pastebin.com/d64c821d6
[05:02] <Guest26730> or maybe your keyboard cables are just loose
[05:02] <MarkJones> ok ill go keep looking
[05:03] <gg> Jordan_U, no, this is a very standard install. I am running it through VMware, and if had this issue before and it seems to resolve itself sometimes. I can't remember what I did last time.
[05:04] <Schlep> If I delete the desktop folder and create a symlink to a NAS
[05:04] <Schlep> will that work?
[05:04] <Jordan_U> Dominicus, Does "sudo apt-get -d install acpid" download anything?
[05:04] <kkkkkk> i installed clamav.. where is it ?
[05:05] <Tetracomm> nicholas@nicholas-desktop:~$ sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[05:05] <Tetracomm> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[05:05] <Tetracomm> It didn't require that yesterday, what do I do?
[05:05] <kkkkkk> i installed clamav using sudo aptget install ....... but where is it now ???? its not in applica ?
[05:05] <Jordan_U> Tetracomm, Same floppy as yesterday?
[05:05] <Salajadin> try restarting your system
[05:05] <Tetracomm> No, a different one.
[05:05] <Scunizi> kkkkkk: it's a command line ap
[05:06] <kindofabuzz> kkkkkk, there is a gui frontend, foget what's it's called, but otherwise it's just a command line app
[05:06] <Salajadin> oh hold on
[05:06] <Salajadin> did youinsatll the gui for clamav
[05:06] <Jordan_U> Tetracomm, Might be a bad floppy if mount can't automatically determine the FS
[05:06] <kkkkkk> kindofabuzz, E: Couldn't find package foget
[05:06] <Salajadin> type clamav in synaptics
[05:06] <kindofabuzz> kkkkkk, the only reason you need clamav is if you forward alot of attachements to windows users and don't want to pass along viruses, otherwise you don't need an AV
[05:06] <Salajadin> im sure the gui package for it will come up
[05:07] <Jordan_U> Tetracomm, Try: sudo mount -t fat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[05:07] <kkkkkk> kindofabuzz, my windows drives got more viruses
[05:07] <kindofabuzz> kkkkkk, that was" i forget what it's called" lol
[05:07] <Tetracomm> The other floppy works.
[05:07] <kindofabuzz> kkkkkk, apt-cache search clam, it should show up
[05:07] <Dominicus> Jordan_U: The deb package was already downloaded, so it didn't have to fetch anything -> http://pastebin.com/d5e81eb7e
[05:07] <kkkkkk> kindofabuzz, ok.. i thought its "FOGET" :P
[05:08] <blacknred0> ok, if i would like to upgrade my ubuntu - would it be healthier to do it right after the new release comes out or after a month, once most of the bugs are fixed? OR it doesn't really matter when?
[05:08] <blacknred0> thnx in advance
[05:08] <kkkkkk> y
[05:08] <kkkkkk> y
[05:08] <gg> mouse and keyboard not working in GDM. Any suggestions?
[05:08] <kkkkkk> sorry.. for y/n in terminal.. i was pressing y here
[05:08] <bitsbam> hey all, installed  Ubuntu on a drive with a 25 GB partition, and i am out of room, hardly any files really loaded after install. Anyone see this before?
[05:08] <bosco_> nick {bosco}
[05:09] <{bosco}> anyone know what time today ubuntu is comming out >>
[05:09] <{bosco}> ?
[05:09] <Scunizi> bitsbam: nope.. did you do manual partitioning?
[05:09] <tritium> {bosco}: not until 4/23
[05:10] <blacknred0> {bosco}, it comes out in 2 days
[05:10] <kindofabuzz> tritium, it may be 4/23 where he lives =)
[05:10] <Salajadin> gg, try reconfiguring your x.org?
[05:10] <{bosco}> i thought it came out on 4/22
[05:10] <tritium> kindofabuzz: not yet
[05:10] <kindofabuzz> install the RC of jaunty, pretty much the final, unless some must fix bug lands by the 23rd
[05:11] <Cyde> I'm using the apt-get CLI to install mtop.  On the first time I tried installing it, apport-qt popped up asking for my root password.  I closed it.  And now I can't seem to install mtop at all, even if I remove it first. The password prompt never returns.
[05:11] <Cyde> Any ideas?
[05:11] <{bosco}> tritium, so who knows what time on that day
[05:11] <Cyde> It just says this:  ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[05:11] <Jordan_U> Dominicus, Try "sudo apt-get -f install" again and see if you get the same error as last time ( It might be different since you successfully stopped acpid )
[05:11] <tritium> {bosco}: nobody
[05:11] <Salajadin> guys which is better? webmin or ebox
[05:11] <gg> Salajadin, how can I do that?
[05:11] <Scunizi> !webmin | Salajadin
[05:12] <kindofabuzz> i prefer webmin
[05:12] <Viral_Weaponry> :D
[05:12] <{bosco}> lol
[05:12] <Cyde> Huh, looks like that error is a MySQL error??
[05:12] <Salajadin> but i checked webmin last week and they have deb package for ubuntu
[05:13] <tritium> !webmin | Salajadin
[05:13] <kindofabuzz> Salajadin, i use webmin and have no problems that i can noitce, your choice
[05:13] <kindofabuzz> but i didn't know about that above =)
[05:13] <Salajadin> hard tochoose ^^
[05:13] <Salajadin> gg, try sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:14] <kdask> can anyone tell me when 9.04 goes gold?
[05:14] <Salajadin> or
[05:14] <usser> !jaunty
[05:14] <kindofabuzz> so ubuntu has pretty much strayed away from config file standards?
[05:14] <tritium> kindofabuzz: no
[05:14] <Salajadin> try sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:14] <bitsbam> exit
[05:15] <DasEi> kindofabuzz, there is still much, some optional, but basically it#s more in the kernel then in modules
[05:15] <kindofabuzz> k
[05:15] <Salajadin> guys, if i understand correctly ebox and webmin are like windows AD right?
[05:16] <kindofabuzz> i don't know what windows AD is
[05:16] <|dthacker|> Salajadin, I would say that ebox and webmin are graphic or browswer based config tools.
[05:16] <Salajadin> active directory?
[05:17] <|dthacker|> Which configure many linux services.
[05:17] <manpoole> why the move to diable ctrl alt backspace from 9.04?
[05:17] <blacknred0> Salajadin, i would say that both are the same, kind of
[05:17] <Salajadin> microsoft's active directory
[05:17] <gg> from within GDM, how can I exit and go to a shell prompt?
[05:17] <Dominicus> Jordan_U: Still not helping any. And with what the uninstaller is trying to do, it tries to kill the process i suppose, and then restart it. Because, it will start acpid up again. If your curious... http://pastebin.com/d1bd050c3   And, from what i'm finding, this is a reported bug since at least 6 days ago, however, it doesn't look as if anyone other than me is so far noticing that they...
[05:17] <kindofabuzz> webmin is just a browser based tool to config your server for various things. pretty complete too
[05:17] <Dominicus> ...can't aptitude install/remove/purge anything until the issue is fixed. Because, aptitude is being blocked from functioning.
[05:17] <|dthacker|> Salajadin: but neither of those are a directory service
[05:17] <kindofabuzz> gg ctrl-alt f1
[05:17] <ah7013> gg: Press Control+alt+f1
[05:18] <kindofabuzz> or f2-f6
[05:18] <ammagendut> i cant find "snow" option on my conpiz fussion
[05:18] <nephish> hey all, sorry, my irc client died. have a full hard drive on 25 GB partition? new install, what could do this?
[05:18] <mikechelen> having problem with pulseaudio, trying to connect in the manager says connection refused
[05:18] <Salajadin> yep ctr+alt f1tof6
[05:18] <gg> thanks, guys
[05:18] <Scunizi> nephish: : nope.. did you do manual partitioning?
[05:19] <Salajadin> dthacker waddya mean by they are not directory services?
[05:19] <ammagendut> Dominicus: help me.. i cant find "snow" option on my conpiz fussion
[05:19] <Scunizi> !info ebox
[05:19] <|dthacker|> Salajadin: we should jump to ubuntu-offtopic
[05:19] <Scunizi> Salajadin: they are apache management tools
[05:20] <Salajadin> hmmmmmmm
[05:20] <Dominicus> ammagendut: I don't run compiz fusion at the moment.
[05:20] <dotblank3> gg: you can simple use ctl+alt+f1
[05:20] <Jordan_U> Dominicus, One thing you can do is temporarily comment out the init.d script and hope that it is not required for a proper installation...
[05:20] <dotblank3> gg: then run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[05:20] <gg> To return to gdm, I can just type "gdm"  ?
[05:21] <Skapare> back to an old networking problem, again ... I re-installed 64-bit this time ... enabled the proprietary wireless driver ... and installed a recent network-manager from SVN ... these steps got wirless working in 32 bit ... but in 64 bit it is not working and has the same misbehavior that 32 bit had at first, but now in 64 bit even the "fixed" network-manager isn't fixed
[05:21] <ammagendut> Dominicus: snow option not show on my compizconfig
[05:21] <Skapare> the basic symptom: wireless security settings are not properly fetched from the key ring
[05:21] <kindofabuzz> gg, ctrl-alt f7
[05:22] <gg> thanks. Where is the best place I can find documentation of these "shells" and the function keys
[05:22] <MarkJones> Does anyone know if there is a reason that there are no jigdo files for Jaunty RC Desktop images and only for alternative images? That normal? Maybe jigdo doesnt work for livecd images?
[05:22] <erka> I'm having getting an old 56k modem set up for a family member of mine. I've tried the linuxant drivers to no avail, and cannot seem to get things working. Can anyone help me with this? It is a Conexant external USB modem.
[05:22] <dotblank3> gg: the shell used most commonly is called bash
[05:22] <dotblank3> !bash
[05:23] <Skapare> MarkJones: I asked that question a couple days ago ... no answers ... hope you can get one now
[05:23] <gg> sorry, I meant to ask, where are F1,F2,F3 ... defined ?
[05:23] <kindofabuzz> gg, those are virtual terminals
[05:24] <MarkJones> Oh glad im not the only one wondering that. hehe
[05:24] <Jordan_U> MarkJones, jigdo doesn't work for live images, the liveCD has an installed system on it, the alternate is a small installer + all of the packages in the base system which are installed via apt. Jigdo gets the packages from the repositories to build the iso, hopefully you understand why that can't be done with the liveCD
[05:24] <morgan> When I plug in my ipod to the usb I can see the songs on there but when I turn on the ipod it doesnt haave them, any ideas?
[05:24] <Skapare> MarkJones: I was guessing maybe they didn't want people to create their own ISO in certain cases
[05:24] <Scunizi> erka: probably a soft modem.. there is a site that talks about different modems and their compatibility as well as recommended drivers or non-functionality.. I gave up on the 6 internals that I have lying around and one external 9pin serial Motorola..I bought an external usrobotics usb, small white no power supply needed.
[05:25] <dotblank3> gg: hmm I don't really know..
[05:25] <Scunizi> erka: one thing you might try is opening a terminal and typing dmesg, then plug in the modem and type dmesg again and see what the reference it for it.. it might be a totally different mount point than you think it is
[05:25] <Skapare> MarkJones: know anything about the network manager with respect to wireless security settings?
[05:25] <MarkJones> Ok thats what i figured. I know that the alternate installer images are for a text based installer.Ok at least i know now for sure.Thank you very much.
[05:26] <Scunizi> *for it is
[05:26] <erka> Alright, I'll try that now. I've gone through a few internals already, and just picked up this external in the hopes I could get it working.
[05:26] <Skapare> MarkJones: ah ... I didn't even know that about the alternate ... text, eh ... now I know something else :)
[05:26] <MarkJones> Umm no I have no experience with wirelesss and linux at all. Ive only heard of not so good linux wireless suport and that some people are using something to wrap windows drivers to work on linux.
[05:26] <MarkJones> Sorry
[05:27] <Skapare> MarkJones: I suppose if I had actually tried it, it would have been obvious ... but I'd be trying a lot of others first
[05:27] <MarkJones> Yeah never hurts to ask.
[05:28] <Scunizi> erka: this is what I bought that works fine for my faxing needs. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3718719&sku=U13-4292
[05:28] <Salajadin> wow im new in IRC stuff and i love this place already!
[05:28] <Skapare> MarkJones: seems to be a 32-bit vs. 64-bit issue ... actually the base network-manager in 8.10 is buggy reading wireless security settings ... a very recent .deb from SVN someone suggested fixed it ... so I now switch to 64-bit and do all the same but this time the new .deb (yes, 64-bit version of it) does not fix it
[05:28] <MarkJones> Hmm I have to call cable company tommorow Im only paying for 1.5Mbps and Im testing at 7Mbps.Better make sure i aint getting charged for it.
[05:28] <Salajadin> im learning lots of new stuff
[05:29] <Scunizi> Salajadin: welcome to the clan :)
[05:29] <Skapare> MarkJones: maybe jaunty has?  dunno ... too close to release for me to bother with the RC
[05:29] <MarkJones> yeah
[05:29] <Salajadin> thank you thank you
[05:29] <Salajadin> i installed jaunty 2 weeks ago
[05:29] <MarkJones> Im kinda bored so Im downloading the Jaunty RC image now myself.
[05:29] <Salajadin>  the not final version
[05:29] <Salajadin> its kinda cool
[05:30] <Salajadin> i think it's a bit faster too
[05:30] <kungpowza> quit
[05:30] <zhurai> ...
[05:30] <Skapare> well I'm not in a big hurry at the moment ... I don't see the value in doing the RC this late since they would not be able to fix it in the release based when I could make a bug report
[05:30] <Salajadin> i noticed there is a selinux folder in the filesystem of jaunty
[05:30] <Salajadin> anyone knows what it is?
[05:30] <MarkJones> I dont have any trouble with Intrepid except 1. Refuses to open alacarte menu editor.Cant add my lightscribe labeler to the menu.
[05:31] <zhurai> Salajadin: #ubuntu+1 for jaunty discussions
[05:31] <Skapare> Salajadin: they are spying on you ... just be quiet and obey
[05:31] <Tokenekie> Hi, I have a question about installing Jaunty on a live USB. Can anyone help me, or point me to the right channel regarding usb-creator package bugs?
[05:31] <zhurai> Tokenekie: #ubuntu+1 for jaunty discussions
[05:31] <zhurai> o/
[05:31] <Skapare> Tokenekie: #ubuntu+1
[05:31] <Tokenekie> thanks
[05:31] <bwm> hi, I'm trying to run Alsamixer to ts my sound.  Output here http://pastebin.com/m3a338731  Any thoughts how to fix?
[05:31] <Salajadin> sorry
[05:32] <MarkJones> wonder if the next ubuntu is a kangaroo
[05:33] <tritium> MarkJones: Karmic Koala
[05:33] <Skapare> I'm gonna go switch back to 32-bit and see what happens ... see if the network will work or not ... maybe something else I accidentally did a few days ago is what fixed it, instead of what people here told me to do
[05:33] <MarkJones> ahh
[05:33] <MarkJones> thats cooler
[05:33] <zhurai>  <MarkJones> wonder if the next ubuntu is a kangaroo <-- 9.10?.... 9.10 = Karmic Koala  o/
[05:33] <MarkJones> or shall I say Kooler
[05:34] <MarkJones> :P
[05:34] <Skapare> I know the driver works because it can see my networks SSID as well as 3 neighbor networks ... just can't connect because of wrong key
[05:34] <tritium> zhurai: scroll up a bit ;)
[05:34] <erka> Best I can tell, the modem is at cdc_acm ... is this correct? I'm rather new at trying to figure this out. And If so, is there an easy way to get it to work from here? Gnome-PPP does not give that option to detect from, and I'm running out of ideas. My family member is a rather impatient person, unfortunately.
[05:35] <MarkJones> Ok peeps Im off to try out the Jackalope-RC laters!
[05:35] <bwm> any takers on the alsamixer issue?
[05:35] <Skapare> zhurai: so that means the short name will be "karmic" ?
[05:35] <tritium> Skapare: yes
[05:36] <nephish> Scunizi: yes, manual partitioning
 zhurai: so that means the short name will be "karmic" ? <-- don't ask me, I'm not a dev (yet? atm? o/)
[05:36] <Skapare> it seems the names people are using are the adjective parts of the full names
[05:36] <nephish> Scunizi: thats why so weird, all media, songs, movies, etc.. are on their own drive
[05:37] <tritium> Skapare: yes.  I know, it doesn't make grammatical sense.
[05:37] <Scunizi> nephish: wow.. that only took 15+ minutes :) I'm suprised you found my post.. how large did you make your /home?
[05:37] <Skapare> like "jaunty" instead of "jackalope"
[05:37] <KyleK> can the livecd install to /dev/md0?
[05:37] <bullgard4> 'smbtree' no longer produces output. How can I fix that?  Setting in /etc/samba/smb.conf 'loglevel = 4' obtains many messages (http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/394831/) but none has led me so far to the error.
[05:37] <nephish> Scunizi: sorry, boss keeps calling.
[05:38] <Skapare> tritium: well, I never really got into the names, anyway ... and it was even more confusing with debian
[05:38] <wladston> numlock suddenly stopped working .. I tried rebooting the computer, changing the keyboard configuration, no luck. I know my keyboard didn't broke because on the login screen ( just there!) it works.... any suggestions on how to fix this ?
[05:38] <Scunizi> erka: yep sounds like the right kind of crazy address.. I've never setup ppp so others will have to guide you there.. I only use my modem for faxing.
[05:38] <MeI> hello, everyone
[05:38] <nephish> Scunizi: i had only two partitions .   /   and  /stuff    everything goes in /
[05:38] <Scunizi> nephish: how large is /stuff
[05:38] <MeI> got a question in regards to playing youtube videos.  just upgrade to Jaunty and youtube videos need flash again,
[05:39] <wladston> I'd hate to have to type everything using the normal keys ... it was working 10 minutes ago and the,, ... poofff ... gone!!! ;-(
[05:39] <erka> Scunizi: Ah, well thank you anyhow. Just trying to figure this out before I fall asleep lol
[05:39] <tritium> MeI: as before, flashplugin-nonfree
[05:39] <michasb> Hi all! I'm trying to wrap my head around Jaunty's OpenLDAP configuration. I know they switched to cn=config but I don't think it's setup initially and there is no slapd.conf. Any help would be appreciated.
[05:39] <nephish> Scunizi: stuff is the media partition  is about 211 GB
[05:39] <Scunizi> erka: you're closer.. sleep and google tomorrow
[05:39] <Scunizi> nephish: and / is 25 gigs?
[05:40] <MeI> tritium, hehe, let me try , forgot to put the nonfree part
[05:40] <bwm> am I in the wrong channel?
[05:40] <MeI> tritium, i have the newest version already installed
[05:40] <zhurai> bwm: depends
[05:41] <Skapare> I wonder if I should set up a dual-boot system ... 32 bit and 64 bit
[05:41] <MeI> tritium, weird, how can i check what other programs are trying to handle my flash videos?
[05:41] <erka> I might just have to do that. She can learn a little patience anyhow. I mean, she still uses dial up so I'd figure she'd be good at that already :)
[05:41] <tritium> MeI: it should work, then.  Ask in #ubuntu+1, since juanty isn't supported here for 2 more days.
[05:41] <Salajadin> get a vm
[05:41] <michasb> Basically, I'm wondering how to change OpenLDAP's configuration if there isn't a slapd.conf and cn=config isn't setup (at least it's not showing in slapcat and I didn't get asked for a password).
[05:41] <Salajadin> skapare try virtualbox
[05:42] <KyleK> 2 days? so like thurs? friday?
[05:42] <MeI> tritium, ok thanks
[05:42] <tritium> KyleK: 4/23
[05:42] <nephish> Scunizi: yes,  root folder is 25GB
[05:42] <KyleK> okay thurs
[05:42] <Tetracomm> Good night.
[05:42] <tritium> MeI: it should be the flashplugin, however
[05:42] <Salajadin> michasb, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox
[05:43] <Scunizi> nephish: and you didn't setup a /swap?  25gigs should be plenty.. installed the system with software is around 4 gigs....
[05:43] <Scunizi> nephish: maybe 6 at the most
[05:43] <gg> GDM doesn't respond to mouse or keyboard unless I boot in recovery mode, " Drop to root shell prompt", restart the HAL, and run GDM.
[05:43] <DasEi> !LTS > ^Phantom^
[05:44] <Skapare> will jaunty support move to this channel after juanty is officially released?
[05:44] <tritium> Skapare: yes
[05:45] <Skapare> is wondering if he should bother with the RC or not
[05:45] <michasb> Salajadin: Thanks. I'm assuming installing eBox will allow me to configure the new OpenLDAP. I'll check it out.
[05:45] <bwm> zhurai: should I just be patient?
[05:46] <Salajadin> yep im checking it too
[05:46] <nephish> Scunizi:  Oh, i did set up a swap, sorry
[05:46]  * Skapare hates to download 2 ISOs and then download 2 more in 2 days (testing i386 and amd64)
[05:46] <nephish> Scunizi;  and yeah, i usually have a few gigs after a new install. Just wondering what may have gone wrong.
[05:46] <Salajadin> and it manages lots of config files usually used in networks
[05:46] <zhurai> you don't HAVE to dl the ISOs, technically if you are on 8.10, you can dist-upgrade
[05:46] <tritium> Skapare: you can rsycn the RC, and then rsycn the delta info on release day
[05:47] <tritium> (Or, simply update regularly after installing the RC.)
[05:47] <michasb> Skapare: run the Update Manager in Ubuntu once Jaunty is officially released. There is no need to download the ISOs again.
[05:47] <zhurai> as well as if you have the RC's you should just be able to regular update to latest...
[05:48] <gg> GDM doesn't respond to mouse or keyboard unless I boot in recovery mode, " Drop to root shell prompt", restart the HAL, and run GDM.
[05:48] <tritium> !repeat | gg
[05:48] <Salajadin> gg
[05:48] <Skapare> michasb: I'll be installing on several machines ... I don't want all of them to be working that way ... I will want the final ISO
[05:48] <Salajadin> are you in recovery mode
[05:48] <gg> I've tried both ways, Salajadin.
[05:48] <tritium> Skapare: then use rsync as I described above
[05:48] <Salajadin> so where are you now?
[05:49] <gg> shell of recovery mode.
[05:49] <michasb> Skapare: try apt-proxy or rsync as tritium suggests
[05:49] <ballisox> is anyone running the latest version of gadmin-proftpd in ubuntu 8.10 or Jaunty RC?  If so are you able to locate the "generate certificate button" anywhere in the GUI?
[05:49] <Skapare> tritium: I was just asking that in +1 ... missed your earlier message
[05:49] <bullgard4> 'smbtree' no longer produces output. How can I fix that?  Setting in /etc/samba/smb.conf 'loglevel = 4' obtains many messages (http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/394831/) but none has led me so far to the error.  /etc/samba/smb.conf: http://pastebin.com/f7615f1cc
[05:49] <tritium> Skapare: no problem
[05:49] <yakobmatrix> I am having problem with cooliris for linux
[05:50] <yakobmatrix> it says I need to update my openGL
[05:50] <Salajadin> gg, try sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:50] <yakobmatrix> any suggestion?
[05:50] <Salajadin> try it inside recovery or any tty's
[05:50] <WebDawg> how do i change the ssh port?
[05:50]  * Skapare doesn't see the rsync url posted
[05:51] <gg> Alright, I see the file, Salajadin
[05:51] <tritium> WebDawg: configure it in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[05:51] <Skapare> tritium: I guess I didn't get that message to my client, can you give the URL again?
[05:51] <tritium> Skapare: which URL?
[05:51] <Salajadin> hoorah
[05:51] <Skapare> rsync
[05:52] <tritium> Skapare: I hadn't sent one.  It was merely a suggestion.
[05:52] <Salajadin> gg,  does it say anything about your keyboard
[05:52] <Salajadin> or mouse
[05:52] <Saiki> hey guys, can someonehelp e install the nvidia modual on my xubuntu install?
[05:52] <Skapare> tritium: oh ... well I don't know where to get it ... then I guess my question stands on #ubuntu+1
[05:52] <gg> Salajadin, no.
[05:52] <Salajadin> saiki, iinstall envy
[05:52] <tritium> Skapare: /msg ubottu rsync for general info
[05:52] <Salajadin> oh no
[05:53] <tritium> Saiki: no, don't
[05:53] <Saiki> it didn't work
[05:53] <tritium> !envy
[05:53] <Salajadin> well envy worked for me
[05:54] <Saiki> well, I tried the nvidia.run and it keeps failing
[05:54] <Salajadin> i know theres aneasy standard way to install nvidia but i forgot
[05:54] <tritium> Saiki: if you use envy, do so at your own risk, unless Salajadin is willing to provide you technical support (we don't here)
[05:54] <tritium> Salajadin: System -> Adminisration -> Hardware Drivers
[05:54] <Salajadin> yep thats it
[05:54] <Skapare> tritium: that's not giving me the URL for the rsync of the ISO ... just general info on rsync (I already know that)
[05:55] <tritium> Skapare: as I said, yes
[05:55] <Salajadin> and theres also installing from synaptic or maybe it was in the terminal
[05:55] <Salajadin> hmmmmm
[05:55] <Skapare> tritium: rsync doesn't do much good not knowing where to get the ISO that way
[05:55] <Saiki> not willing to use envy
[05:55] <Salajadin> gg,
[05:55] <WebDawg> tritium i did
[05:55] <tritium> !download | Skapare
[05:56] <WebDawg> i replaced it with my port
[05:56] <Salajadin> gg, where are you now?
[05:56] <tritium> WebDawg: did you restart it?
[05:56] <WebDawg> and did /etc/init.d/sshd reload and noting
[05:56] <str0m> hi all
[05:56] <michasb> Progress on OpenLDAP cn=config: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OpenLdapCnConfigMigration
[05:56] <WebDawg> err
[05:56] <Salajadin> gg, quit the file
[05:56] <WebDawg> and did /etc/init.d/ssh reload and noting
[05:56] <str0m> how to install ipv6
[05:56] <Salajadin> then use this
[05:56] <tritium> WebDawg: you need to use sudo with that command
[05:56] <str0m> in ubuntu interpid
[05:56] <Salajadin> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:57]  * str0m forgot how to install it
[05:57] <tritium> Skapare: see download info above
[05:57] <WebDawg> heh
[05:57] <WebDawg> nice
[05:57] <WebDawg> would have been nice if it would have given a better error message
[05:57] <Saiki> what do you do when the modual fails to install?
[05:58] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[05:58] <tritium> Saiki: are you using System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers?
[05:58] <raddy> Is final version available in torrent?
[05:58] <Saiki> that didn't work last time, but I'll try again
[05:58] <tritium> No, raddy.
[05:58] <^Phantom^> i have a laptop
[05:59] <^Phantom^> is the desktop cd the right one for me?
[05:59] <tritium> ^Phantom^: yes
[05:59] <Salajadin> yep it is
[05:59] <str0m> would somebody help me
[05:59] <^Phantom^> sorry, i have habit of enter as punctuation, i'll try to curb it here
[05:59] <raddy> tritium : Off, would delta isos be released for RCs?
[05:59] <KyleK> ^Phantom^: yay msn!
[05:59] <tritium> raddy: no, not that I'm aware of
[06:01] <^Phantom^> when i had 7.10 installed on the laptop nohing would install, i was wondering, could you guys please help me get 8.04 to work the right way and let me install things, after i get the cd?
[06:02] <ablmf> ssh login is very slow.  took 1 minute after password is typed
[06:02] <ablmf> what might cause the problem?
[06:02] <bullgard4> 'smbtree' no longer produces output. How can I fix that?  Setting in /etc/samba/smb.conf 'loglevel = 4' obtains many messages (http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/394831/) but none has led me so far to the error.  /etc/samba/smb.conf: http://pastebin.com/f7615f1cc
[06:03] <^Phantom^> i would really, *really* appreciate it
[06:03] <mike> hi everyone!
[06:03] <Guest36579> Hey guys, i hope i can ask everyonesomething
[06:03] <Demersus> I have a question about installing legersmb. Anyone willing to help?
[06:04] <Guest36579> i'm a total noob that has always wanted to try linux took the plug earlier today. guys i've been researching but can someone help me to where to start?
[06:04] <Guest36579> such as finding drivers.
[06:04] <Guest36579> i did searches for pc models. but no luck on that
[06:04] <Guest36579> do i look for the actual driver itself?
[06:04] <jert> Guest36579: what drivers are you looking for?
[06:04] <kindofabuzz> Guest11562, drivers for what? the linux kernel replaces the need for drivers
[06:05] <Guest36579> driver for dell xps
[06:05] <Guest36579> 410
[06:05] <kindofabuzz> ? what peice of hardware?
[06:05] <tritium> Guest36579: for which hardware?
[06:05] <jert> Guest36579: it looks like your video and network drivers are functioning
[06:05] <Demersus> Guest36579: What is not working correctly?
[06:05] <Guest36579> that the questions i hope u can answer.
[06:05] <Guest36579> do i search for each individual hardware
[06:05] <Guest36579> such as 8800gtx
[06:06] <jert> only if its not working
[06:06] <tritium> Guest36579: the vast majority of hardware is supported without the need for "drivers".  Some people like proprietary nvidia or ati graphics, for example, but otherwise, most things "just work".
[06:06] <Guest36579> oooo
[06:06] <Guest36579> okay good to know
[06:06] <jert> haha its very simple now mike, welcome
[06:06] <tritium> Guest36579: in the case of nvidia, if you want the proprietary drivers, use System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[06:07] <mike> thanks im excited!
[06:07] <mike> =)
[06:07] <Saiki> why doesn't the nvidia*.run work?
[06:07] <Guest44425> hmm my sn keep changing
[06:07] <tritium> Guest44425: if you don't have a strong need for the proprietary drivers, I might suggest you not bother, if the open source driver is working for you.
[06:07] <Demersus> LedgerSMB anyone?
[06:08] <tritium> Saiki: we don't support nvidia.com downloads.  We have nvidia drivers in the repos.
[06:09] <mike__> How long has everyone been using linux?
[06:09] <Makaveli> helloo
[06:10] <jert> a few months now, still very much a newb here
[06:10] <Skapare> tritium: how about the vast majority of laptop wireless cards ... do those need "drivers" (I assume you mean the proprietary ones that have to be installed)
[06:10] <mike__> Does any have any must have app for linux?
[06:10] <flippo> mike__, you want a sum total, a median, or a mode?
[06:10] <Saiki> tritium: true, but they weren't installing earlier for me
[06:10] <bwm> anyone available? I'm trying to troubleshoot sound not working on a Dell Inspiron 1525, recently up to 8.04
[06:10] <Demersus> mike__:  I have used it exclusively for 3 years
[06:10] <mike__> =P
[06:10] <tritium> Skapare: wireless can be a little more problematic, and depends greatly on the hardware you have.
[06:10] <Skapare> tritium: mine needed the proprietary driver in 8.10
[06:10] <Makaveli> 1 day  :)
[06:10] <jert> mike__: depends, what do you use your computer for?
[06:11] <Skapare> tritium: fortunately it was on the ISO
[06:11] <mike__> ah very nice. I'm a technician for a school and they have been telling me to upgrade to linux already
[06:11] <mike__> well i'm currently trying to figure this operating system out right now
[06:11] <mike__> but currently my school uses novell
[06:11] <mike__> so it will be for server base
[06:11] <Demersus> mike__:  Linux is a very rewarding path to take
[06:11] <Skapare> tritium: that driver plus a new network-manager from svn ... got wireless working in 32-bit ... but not in 64-bit
[06:11] <^Phantom^> i swear to god, if i get the "not compatible with your computer type (i386). or the vendor decided not to support your computer type" message on everything i try to install, i'll scream loud enough to wake up dead people in their graves
[06:12] <jert> ^Phantom^:  still having those problems? :(
[06:12] <tritium> ^Phantom^: I've asked you before not to swear.  Please remain calm.
[06:12] <mike__> cant wait to get my hands dirty.. i'm a bit confuse though for all the "experts here"
[06:13] <MarkJones> Hmm first impression of Jaunty is nice.
[06:13] <^Phantom^> sorry, tiberius_, it was just so frustrating
[06:13] <Skapare> Phantom: what kind of computer do you have?
[06:13] <KingKimi> how do i open .bca files ??????? is there any in synpantic manger ?
[06:13] <Demersus> The linux kernel is my must have app
[06:13] <^Phantom^> even firefox couldn't install add-ons for itself ._.
[06:13] <^Phantom^> Dell Inspiron 640m
[06:14] <KingKimi> !jaunty > KingKimi
[06:14] <karmester> join# ubunut-hu
[06:14] <Skapare> Phantom: which ISO did you install?
[06:14] <noIdeasOriginal> is anyone here? i have a big problem i believe
[06:14] <heiwa> hello!
[06:14] <KingKimi> is it that tomorrow is the dday when jaunty will be released ?
[06:14] <Nhawdge> any possibly way I can tell a command to runn in the background so I don't have to wait for it?
[06:14] <KingKimi> heiwa, Hi !
[06:14] <Skapare> KingKimi: 23rd
[06:14] <karmester> join # ubuntu-hu
[06:14] <tritium> KingKimi: depends on where you are.  4/23
[06:14] <^Phantom^> i386
[06:14] <jert> Nhawdge: use a & at the end of your command
[06:14] <^Phantom^> desktop
[06:15] <kindofabuzz> Nhawdge, <command> &
[06:15] <KingKimi> tritium, tomorrow !!
[06:15] <tritium> KingKimi: depending on your time zone
[06:15] <Skapare> Phantom: and did the install at least finish OK ... even if stuff didn't work after rebooting?
[06:15] <KingKimi> tritium, :P okk ! what about yours ?
[06:15] <^Phantom^> i yeahg
[06:15] <Nhawdge> jert: kindofabuzz  now, how do I tell when it's done?
[06:15] <Skapare> Phantom: so then it's driver issues for you?
[06:15] <KingKimi> tritium, have you got your ubuntu 904 ?
[06:15] <^Phantom^> i don't know
[06:15] <kindofabuzz> Nhawdge, or use a virtual terminal, or use another tab in ghome-terminal, or use a different terminal window
[06:15] <tritium> KingKimi: yes, but please stay on topic
[06:16] <KingKimi> \join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:16] <jert> Nhawdge: you will get a message when it completes
[06:16] <Skapare> Phantom: what doesn't work ... list from most important first
[06:16] <KingKimi> \join #ubuntu -offotopic
[06:16] <karmester> #join ubuntu-hu
[06:16] <tritium> KingKimi: you need /join
[06:16] <Nhawdge> jert: Thanks, kindofabuzz  it's headless server, ssh'd into it
[06:16] <KingKimi> tritium, thanks !
[06:16] <Skapare> KingKimi: forward slash
[06:16] <mike> sorry i must of got laged out
[06:17] <Skapare> KingKimi: remeber, Linux is forward, Windows is backward
[06:17] <Saiki> my restricted drivers icon won't open :@
[06:17] <eso> any of you got any experience with wlan 'disappearing'?
[06:17] <KingKimi> Skapare, :P :D  Linux is always forward ! B-) thanks for the info
[06:17] <Guest83699> can anyone suggest the program which let you do all the 3d effects?
[06:17] <eso> it's in lsconfig, but not iwconfig
[06:17] <^Phantom^> though, there is something i recall:  something mentioned my processor as i686
[06:17] <jert> eso: just fixed that today, what card + kernel are you using?
[06:17] <eso> uhm, lspci even
[06:17] <eso> jert: asus eee
[06:17] <eso> atheros
[06:18] <Skapare> KingKimi: well, there are uses for backslash ... like in C programming ... and a few others ... but not in filenames and not much in IRC
[06:18] <eso> and i'm such a noob i'm trying to figure out what kernel i'm using :P
[06:18] <KingKimi> Skapare, thanks again for the info
[06:18] <KingKimi> eso, uname ?
[06:18] <Skapare> /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:18] <jert> eso: uname -r
[06:19] <^Phantom^> here's a \ use in irc
[06:19] <KingKimi> eso, uname -a
[06:19] <eso> aye
[06:19] <eso> booting the damn thing now
[06:19] <KingKimi> !
[06:19] <eso> it worked perfectly fine last night
[06:19] <Skapare> Phantom: your processor probably is i686 ... but I don't know the Dell model so I can't be 100% sure
[06:19] <eso> turned it off, and now it the wlan won't come back
[06:20] <\Phantom> Inspiron 640m
[06:20] <jert> eso: that happened to me this morning, had to update to 4.10 and build the ath5k drivers
[06:20] <Skapare> I don't know the details of what's in that model
[06:20] <jert> finally works all the time, never get dropped
[06:20] <jert> 4.10 =7.10 *
[06:21] <mayagamer> y
[06:21] <^Phantom^> Intel Centrino Duo Processor, 2GHz
[06:21] <Makaveli> love intel :)
[06:21] <Flannel> jert: 7.10 isn't supported anymore.  You should upgrade to 8.04
[06:21] <tritium> jert: that's some bad math ;)
[06:22] <jert> Flannel, tritium: haha sorry i'm way too tired to be up, i upgraded to the latest version this morning ._.
[06:22] <Saiki> 7.10 isn't? I thiught that was til jaunty came out
[06:22] <eso> jert: 2.6.28-11
[06:22] <Flannel> Saiki: EOL was April 18
[06:23] <Saiki> ah..
[06:23] <Saiki> does hardy partial to something else?
[06:23] <Saiki> er..
[06:24] <Saiki> I'm onibex, sorry lol
[06:25] <Saiki> my ibex is doing a partial
[06:25] <eso> i also managed to download skype from skype.com
[06:25] <jert> eso: i suggest upgrading to 8.10 (this is the newest version i upgraded to this morning) by following instructions here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[06:25] <eso> installed the deb, but now i can't remove it >_>
[06:26] <eso> jert: uhm, wouldn't that be downgrading?
[06:27] <KingKimi> jert, "newest" is 8.10 and few hours from now its 904 :P
[06:27] <Surlent777> hi; does anyone have an idea as to why Flash seems to not work while I'm using lxde, and yet is fine in GNOME, KDE, XFCE, Fluxbox, and UWE?
[06:27] <tritium> eso: you're currently running which release?
[06:27] <eso> 9.04
[06:27] <jert> oh
[06:27] <tritium> #ubuntu+1 for jaunty, eso
[06:28] <eso> aha
[06:28] <jert> youre right. im stupid
[06:28] <eso> but isn't there a way to make.. the wlan work again? :P
[06:28] <jert> what got it working was building the compat-wireless drivers
[06:28] <eso> like.. "wlan ENABLE"
[06:28] <eso> >_<
[06:29] <jert> haha if only it was that easy
[06:29] <eso> i mean
[06:29] <eso> the damn computer knows it's there
[06:30] <jert> eso: try sudo ifconfig <interface> up
[06:30] <eso> no such device
[06:30] <eso> that's it then
[06:30] <eso> fresh install
[06:30] <eso> :P
[06:30] <Ahadiel> eso, pastebin the output of 'ifconfig -a'
[06:31] <eso> Ahadiel: eth0, lo, pan0
[06:31] <eso> what's pan0? oO
[06:31] <Ahadiel> eso, Bluetooth something or other
[06:31] <eso> oh
[06:32] <Ahadiel> eso, So your problem is your wireless doesn't work?
[06:32] <eso> yeah
[06:32] <Ahadiel> eso, What card?
[06:32] <eso> worked fine until i shut down the computer
[06:32] <Ahadiel> Because usually eth0 is your wired connection
[06:33] <eso> sure is
[06:33] <eso> atheros ar242x
[06:33] <Ahadiel> eso, Trying using the Hardware Drivers tool?
[06:33] <Ahadiel> tried*
[06:33] <eso> yeah
[06:33] <Saiki> ho long does the nvidia driver/modual take to install and download?
[06:33] <eso> it suggest mad-something
[06:33] <eso> madwifi
[06:34] <eso> but that doesn't work
[06:34] <eso> thing is.. the wlan has been working ever since i installed ubuntu
[06:34] <Ahadiel> eso, Hrm, not sure then.
[06:34] <Saiki> eso: what wifi card?
[06:35] <eso> could me typing "iwconfig wlan0 rate 24M" have something to do with it?
[06:35] <eso> Saiki: Atheros
[06:35] <eso> it's an asus eee 900
[06:35] <Saiki> try ndising it?
[06:35] <Ahadiel> eso, Well if it isn't showing up with 'ifconfig -a', then it's not being detected
[06:35] <mike> guys
[06:35] <mike> can someone help me with gnome?
[06:35] <Saiki> mike: whatcha need?
[06:35] <eso> ubuntu is shit then :P
[06:35] <Guest83272> any link or guide you can point me to so i can use it
[06:36] <Saiki> eso: new atheros cards don't work with madwifi
[06:36] <tritium> eso: watch the language, please
[06:36] <eso> yes, yes..
[06:36] <jert> eso: this is what finally got me working http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download
[06:36] <brandonmpace> yes they do Saiki
[06:36] <brandonmpace> You need madwifi-hal
[06:36] <brandonmpace> 10.5.6
[06:36] <Saiki> not the last 5 times I tried
[06:37] <brandonmpace> ^
[06:37] <Mike714> my sn keep changing.
[06:37] <jert> eso: build the compat-wireless drivers
[06:37] <Mike714> blah
[06:37] <jert> Mike714: there are lots of mikes on here haha
[06:37] <Mike714> i'm trying to get gnome to work
[06:37] <Mike714> but dont know where to start
[06:37] <Mike714> =(
[06:37] <Mike714> haha
[06:37] <eso> any way i can try installing the "same old" drivers?
[06:37] <Mike714> obviously i'm new,
[06:38] <co_gnteng> palembang
[06:38] <Saiki> oh goodie... my xorg is messed up :@
[06:38] <jert> eso: those are the same-old drivers, very comprehensive, and up to date.  its the only thing thats gotten my atheros card to work
[06:39] <eso> jert: did it work in the first place?
[06:39] <brandonmpace> eso do you have an email address I can send a tar file to?  I have the one that works with that card
[06:39] <jert> eso: it worked the first time i started ubuntu, and after a restart never worked again
[06:39] <jert> eso: didn't even show up until i built the drivers
[06:39] <dbbolton> how can i figure out the domain name of the computer i'm on right now?
[06:39] <unop> dbbolton, hostname -f
[06:41] <Saiki> um.. how do you fix a offset display?
[06:41] <eso> any ideas on how i can uninstall skype after i installed a version not meant for me?
[06:41] <MarkJones> try your monitor controls
[06:41] <MarkJones> eso: synaptic package manager
[06:41] <eso> not listed in synaptics or anthing
[06:41] <MarkJones> if its not listed it aint installed
[06:42] <eso> how come i use it then?
[06:42] <brandonmpace> sometimes the tar.gz you installed from has an uninstaller
[06:42] <brandonmpace> or if you used a script, same thing
[06:42] <eso> it was a .deb
[06:42] <brandonmpace> ah
[06:42] <Saiki> MarkJones: I tried, no luck
[06:43] <tritium> eso: sounds like it wasn't packaged properly.  synaptic should see it
[06:43] <kb0odu> eso: Can you use dselect to remove it or dpkg?
[06:43] <Saiki> eso: add it t synaptic
[06:43] <unop> eso,  sudo aptitude remove skype
[06:43] <MarkJones> Saiki: What did you install and what makes you think its wrong?
[06:43] <brandonmpace> then go         sudo dpkg -r <packagename
[06:43] <Saiki> the 180 driver
[06:43] <eso> unop: thanks :)
[06:44] <Saiki> and um.. had to describe
[06:44] <MarkJones> Saiki: open the driver manager and disable it.
[06:44] <matholum> hello everyone... I have googled this but have found no specific answer.... I am trying to install ubuntu on an older computer and I keep getting different errors. Sometimes it is a crc error - system hault... and most of the time I get a kernel panic con't read block (x,y) error... any idea what is wrong? I though it was the memory but i took a 512 stick from a working computer and I get the same thing....
[06:44] <brandonmpace> synaptic doesn't see a lot of 3rd party .deb's cause they're not packaged right
[06:44] <BladeNBrocade> matholum: sounds like a hdd issue
[06:45] <matholum> would reformatting help?
[06:45] <BladeNBrocade> could be memory as well
[06:45] <MarkJones> matholem I sent you a private message to help you.
[06:45] <Saiki> ok, now how do I mae it use the entire screen? (it' only using 3/4 atm)
[06:45] <MarkJones> Saiki: Did you check your monitor controls?
[06:46] <Saiki> yes
[06:46] <Saiki> the nvidia*.run fixes it, but why not the ubuntu one?
[06:48] <Salajadin> saiki, maybe because nvidia is proprietary
[06:49] <Saiki> possibly, but their run works
[06:49] <loafers> Does ubuntu have sid/test versions?
[06:49] <BladeNBrocade> weirdness
[06:50] <Surlent777> ok now what the explicative...I just logged out to test gnome, and now upon logging back in to lxde, the flash seems to be working, at least for now
[06:50] <^Phantom^> so, what is the concept behind 'Fringe' ?
[06:50] <Saiki> Surlent777: REBOOT?
[06:50] <Saiki> (sorry, hit caps)
[06:51] <^Phantom^> sorry, being casual while the download finishes
[06:52] <Surlent777> Saki: No reboot here...I have irssi here in screen, and you'll notice there was never a /part message from me...I detached screen, logged into GNOME, tested facebook, came back to lxde, reattached screen, and tested facebook and youtube, and now it's magically working
[06:52] <Salajadin> yep because it is proprietary nvidia's run works
[06:52] <^Phantom^> is there a casual chat?
[06:52] <Surlent777> #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:52] <Saiki> ubuntu-offtopic
[06:53] <Surlent777> err sorry Saiki, misread your name
[06:53] <^Phantom^> thankiews
[06:53] <Saiki> Surlent777: never noticed, to be honest
[06:53] <^Phantom^> =w
[06:53] <^Phantom^> -s*
[06:53] <^Phantom^> -w*
[06:53] <FloodBot2> ^Phantom^: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:53] <Saiki> no worries
[06:53] <Saiki> .....
[06:53] <^Phantom^> dang typos heh
[06:54] <Surlent777> but yeah, this is weird. Now to figure out how the explicative to edit the lxde menu...I hate dead/old/redundant entries
[06:54] <Saiki> (EE) Failed to load module "tpe1" (module does not exist, 0)  <wth?
[06:54] <BladeNBrocade> heh
[06:54] <Saiki> type*
[06:55] <Saiki> anyone know what to do about this error?
[06:55] <BladeNBrocade> xfonts
[06:56] <eso> i can't get audio to work in wine.. anyone know what to do?
[06:56] <dub> dialup speeds to emperor.canonical FTW
[06:56] <Surlent777> hmm...I guess to edit it's menu you have to mess with /usr/share/applications, for anyone who cares
[06:56] <eso> i only get errors when testing sound :\
[06:56] <Surlent777> its*
[06:56] <joanki123> is there an easy to to install tweet deck?
[06:57] <Saiki> (EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0)  <wth?
[06:57] <Saiki> anyone know what to do about this error?
[06:57] <BladeNBrocade> xfont module? i think its deprecated..
[06:58] <crushy> i run fsck and it destroyed my file structure, i cant recover my files, any help ?
[06:58] <dub> use windows
[06:58] <paul68> Saiki: check this out http://www.google.be/search?q=(EE)+Failed+to+load+module+%22type1%22+(module+does+not+exist%2C+0)&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[06:58] <kole> okay I have libflashplayer.so on my desktop and want it in my firefox plugins folder... whats the terminal comand i should use to do so? cp what what what...
[06:58] <crushy> use windows?
[06:59] <dub> yeah, ubuntu fails, windows is far superior
[06:59] <crushy> i am on windows,  but not able to recover it made all files and folder into countless number of folders like #11102893 #12301831 and no file names even
[06:59] <dub> microsoft has better than dialup connectivity for one
[06:59] <Flannel> dub: Please be helpful when helping.  Thanks.
[06:59] <crushy> fsck does that
[07:00] <Saiki> crushy: you need o get stuff from your linux partion to windows?
[07:00] <Salajadin> saiki, check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if type "1" is there
[07:00] <paul68> dub: if you like windows over linux why are you here then ?
[07:00] <BladeNBrocade> smh
[07:00] <Saiki> it's not, at least not that I saw
[07:00] <Salajadin> wait
[07:00] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: do u have type1 xfonts installed?
[07:00] <dub> paul68, to troll, im butthurt about waiting >9000 hours to download 4MB from ubuntu mirrors
[07:00] <Salajadin>  i mean check for load "type1"
[07:00] <crushy> saiki: i need to recover my files from ext3 partition which is not showing any files, just had one folder lost+found cause i run fsck and it corrupted all
[07:00] <Salajadin> double check it
[07:01] <dash|x58> UBUNTU IS FOR FAG NIGGERS
[07:01] <BladeNBrocade> hmm
[07:01] <dub> roger that dash
[07:01] <BladeNBrocade> that should get someone banned...
[07:01] <dub> you dont ban jesus
[07:01] <Flannel> dub: please stay on topic.
[07:02] <dub> Flannel, ok, how about waking up the other carrier pigeon servicing emperor
[07:02] <Flannel> dub: What?
[07:02] <paul68> dub: select another mirror then
[07:02] <Saiki> Salajadin: section "module" dbe,extmod, type1, freetype, glx
[07:02] <Salajadin> can you comment out the type1 stuff
[07:03] <kole> !flash
[07:03] <paul68> !attitude |dub
[07:03] <Salajadin> likeblade said it is deprecated
[07:03] <paul68> !language | dub
[07:03] <BladeNBrocade> exactly
[07:03] <Salajadin> or hold on
[07:03] <Salajadin> did you use the 180 version for nvidia?
[07:03] <dub> paul68, is there an alternate old-releases. ?
[07:04] <Flannel> dub: No.
[07:04] <dub> awesome
[07:04] <Saiki> just a # in front, yes?
[07:05] <monkey2> hi
[07:05] <Salajadin> yep
[07:05] <monkey2> do any of you know anything about installing ubuntu on a PS#?
[07:06] <Salajadin> wait
[07:06] <Saiki> just id
[07:06] <Salajadin> saiki
[07:06] <Saiki> ?
[07:06] <Salajadin> did you use 180?
[07:06] <Salajadin> try sudo cat /proc/drivers first
[07:07] <Saiki> yes
[07:07] <unop> cat: /proc/drivers: No such file or directory
[07:07] <BladeNBrocade> why not lsmod?
[07:08] <kb0odu> isn't /proc/drivers a directory?  So you have to look at the files in there?
[07:08] <Saiki> no such file, diretory
[07:08] <_fynn> is it possible to use the gnome2-globalmenu package in debian?
[07:08] <kb0odu> /proc/driver
[07:08] <Salajadin> yep sorry
[07:08] <monkey2> anyone know???
[07:08] <Salajadin> i guess lsmod will do
[07:08] <BladeNBrocade> /proc/driver/nvidia/version
[07:09] <BladeNBrocade> if u want to be precise
[07:09] <monkey2> i just need to know if I can install it using a 480i TV
[07:09] <Boohbah> monkey2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlayStation_3
[07:10] <Saiki> is a directory
[07:10] <dub> 4938B/s
[07:10] <BladeNBrocade> NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  180.11  Wed Nov 26 10:53:26 PST 2008
[07:10] <BladeNBrocade> GCC version:  gcc version 4.3.2 (Ubuntu 4.3.2-1ubuntu12)
[07:11] <Salajadin> have you tried sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:11] <Saiki> yea
[07:11] <CokeNCode> guys, i've got a logitech precision, how do i get this thing to work with ubuntu
[07:11] <Salajadin> what happened?
[07:11] <CokeNCode> i already downloaded js
[07:11] <Saiki> nothing
[07:11] <CokeNCode> but, zsnes ... the emulator ... won't recognize up and down
[07:11] <Saiki> rebooting again
[07:11] <CokeNCode> or left and right
[07:11] <CokeNCode> only button pressing
[07:12] <Salajadin> so you mean you haven't rebooted yet
[07:12] <BladeNBrocade> CokeNCode: have u configured the device in zsnes.. the buttoon mappings etc..
[07:12] <Flannel> dub: Did you have a question we could help you with today? This channel is not here for complaints.
[07:12] <Salajadin> since installing nvidia?
[07:12] <BladeNBrocade> nvidia requires a reboot
[07:13] <Salajadin> or atleast resparting gdm
[07:13] <Salajadin> *restarting
[07:13] <CokeNCode> BladeNBrocade, that's what I'm trying to do, but zsnes won't do anything when i press up on the control
[07:13] <BladeNBrocade> yea.. taht too
[07:13] <CokeNCode> it's not accepting it
[07:13] <CokeNCode> even though js config does
[07:13] <BladeNBrocade> CokeNCode: ahh i see.. =) that was the extent on my knowledge of this
[07:13] <CokeNCode> lol, thanks neway BladeNBrocade
[07:13] <BladeNBrocade> np
[07:13] <monkey2> thanks for the link
[07:13] <Saiki> this makes reboot #5
[07:14] <monkey2> so it will install with a 480i
[07:14] <dub> Flannel, clearly there is a problem.
[07:14] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: then rebooting isn't the issue
[07:14] <Saiki> nope
[07:15] <Salajadin> hmmmmmmm
[07:15] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: can u paste bin some errors from your X logs?
[07:15] <Saiki> file dir plz?
[07:16] <rose> anyone familliar with AirOs SDK
[07:16] <Salajadin> do you have multiple kernel versions saiki?
[07:16] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: as an FYI if ur going to be on a *nix,, get used to being under /var/log/*
[07:16] <Saiki> ibex's latest
[07:16] <dub> Flannel, I guess a pertinent questoin would be, why host anything that you would expect to have reasonable connectivit to, in england
[07:16] <Salajadin> howmany kernel versioons do you have installed?
[07:16] <Lexda> Argh.
[07:17] <Hetor> is it possible to switch keyboard layouts through a terminal command?
[07:17] <Salajadin> iused toencounter problems with that
[07:17] <Saiki> 2
[07:17] <Lexda> Does anybody else have FUSE mounting problems that appear sporadically?
[07:18] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: have you found the log?
[07:18] <Saiki> pastebin.com/dc700551
[07:18] <Salajadin> saiki did you uninstall properly the nvidia drivers from ubungtu?
[07:19] <BladeNBrocade> logs should be the first place we go....
[07:19] <Saiki> Salajadin: should have
[07:19] <manpoole> Salajadin 13 seconds flat in boot chart
[07:19] <albech> is there a way to send small log-type information between two machines through a secure connection? thinking of a small listening daemon
[07:19] <Saiki> www.pastebin.com/dc700551
[07:19] <Saiki> http://pastebin.com/dc700551
[07:19] <Saiki> *
[07:19] <manpoole> although after my tweeks only shaved .15 seconds lol
[07:20] <Salajadin> 15 secons form?
[07:20] <manpoole> .15
[07:20] <Salajadin> oh
[07:20] <Salajadin> well
[07:20] <Salajadin> thats problem with bootup
[07:20] <Saiki> ?
[07:20] <manpoole> its my bios is whats slow
[07:20] <manpoole> thought about updating it
[07:21] <Salajadin> but your processing and disk reads and writes will be faster
[07:21] <Salajadin> maybe upgrade your bios
[07:21] <manpoole> with the concurrent booting?
[07:21] <Salajadin> flash it
[07:21] <manpoole> thats the only tweak i did
[07:21] <Salajadin> you mean concurrency is the only one you did
[07:21] <manpoole> yea
[07:22] <manpoole> well besides disabling half of the startup progs
[07:22] <Saiki> Salajadin: any ideas?
[07:22] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: how many screens does your xorg have?
[07:22] <manpoole> although i did install conky and awn since the last bootchart
[07:22] <Salajadin> lspci | grep "VGA"
[07:22] <manpoole> wonder if it counts conky and awn delay start up
[07:22] <Saiki> 1
[07:22] <Salajadin> try that see if the settings are what you are exppecting
[07:23]  * Lexda wonders if anybody here has ever found a way to resolve the FUSE mounting errors.
[07:23] <Saiki> k
[07:23] <Saiki> sec
[07:23] <Saiki> yea, it is
[07:24] <Saiki> but gona try again with .run
[07:24] <Saiki> unless you got another idea about how to fix the unused parts
[07:26] <Salajadin> try that see if the settings are what you are exppecting
[07:26] <Saiki> Salajadin: but what would cause it towork one time and not another>
[07:26] <Saiki> Salajadin: it says 8400 GS. that's right
[07:26] <Salajadin> lehs try reinstalling it
[07:26] <Salajadin> sudo pat-get remove --purge
[07:27] <Saiki> ok, commnd plz?
[07:27] <Salajadin> sudo pat-get remove --purge <package.run>
[07:27] <Salajadin> sudo apt-get remove --purge <package.run>
[07:27] <Salajadin> sudo apt-get remove --purge <package>
[07:28] <anita20> Hi all. I need assistance. I´m a newbiegirl
[07:28] <Saiki> nvidia180.run doesn't eist
[07:28] <Saiki> lol
[07:28] <Salajadin> lol
[07:28] <Salajadin> the last one
[07:28] <Saiki> ?
[07:28] <phoe6> I made a mistake of editing /etc/sudoers file using sudo vim and there is parse error now
[07:28] <anita20> I installed xubuntu on an old machine and I cannot get 1024*768 as resolution
[07:28] <highl> ok
[07:28] <phoe6> I login to single user mode to correct it.
[07:28] <mikechelen> anita20, what video card?
[07:29] <highl> sdut
[07:29] <phoe6> but still the permissions are -r--r----- for /etc/sudoers
[07:29] <inasmu1> phoe6: you should only edit /etc/sudoers using the visudo command
[07:29] <Saiki> lol, it deactivated itself
[07:29] <phoe6> even in single user mode?
[07:29] <Salajadin> sudo apt-get remove --purge <packagenamewithversion>
[07:29] <Flannel> phoe6: always.
[07:29] <inasmu1> phoe6: correct, visudo will make sure the syntax is correct before saving
[07:29] <Flannel> phoe6: In single user mode, you only need to use "visudo" instead of "sudo visudo"
[07:29] <BladeNBrocade> hmm Salajadin did u take a peek at the logs?
[07:30] <Saiki> Salajadin: it deactivated itself, I reinstalled it
[07:30] <phoe6> visudo : /etc/sudoers: Read-only file system
[07:30] <phoe6> is the error I am getting.
[07:30] <Salajadin> blade i did
[07:31] <Saiki> phoe6: sudo it
[07:31] <anita20> mikechelen, *01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5 [RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro] (rev 11)
[07:31] <BladeNBrocade> phoe6: did u just edit that file and this happend?
[07:31] <Salajadin> blade do you think saiki should tr envy?
[07:31] <Salajadin> blade do you think saiki should trY envy?
[07:31] <mikechelen> anita20, do you have proprietary driver enabled in system-> admin -> hardware drivers?
[07:31] <phoe6> BladeNBrocade: I edited while logged  as my user.
[07:32] <BladeNBrocade> i think he should review or post his xorg
[07:32] <DasEi> anita20: which  monitor ?
[07:32] <phoe6> right now I am in single user mode,
[07:32] <BladeNBrocade> phoe6: i figured that...
[07:32] <Saiki> great... bios noise!
[07:32] <anita20> it´s a packard bell, don't know much about it, it had 1024*768 in WinXP
[07:32] <Salajadin> th?
[07:32] <phoe6> I cannot do sudo /usr/sbin/visudo /etc/sudoers too.
[07:32] <phoe6> throws a screenfull of errors
[07:32] <Saiki> I can post my xorg if you guys want
[07:32] <Flannel> phoe6: You're in single user mode, you don't need to sudo.  Just visudo
[07:32] <anita20> I'm downloading such driver
[07:33] <DasEi> anita20: if you got 7minutes, I'll boot another comp and give you an xorg ?
[07:33] <Salajadin> post it
[07:33] <mikechelen> anita20, probably enabling proprietary driver will help, if that doesn't work you may want to use an older version driver
[07:33] <phoe6> Flannel: if I just do visudo; I get Readonly file system error.
[07:33] <Saiki> sec, it's rebooting and being noisy lol
[07:33] <anita20> I would like a xorg yes, so I can try it out. i tried some from forums which didn´t work
[07:33] <slap_stick> hey, is gutsy no longer a supported dist? what is the next one to upgrade to?
[07:33] <BladeNBrocade> phoe6: u need to edit ur boot prompt to be "init=/bin/bash" it appears
[07:33] <Saiki> hardy lts
[07:33] <phoe6> I did that to enter into single user mode.
[07:33] <DasEi> anita20: brb
[07:34] <Flannel> slap_stick: gutsy hasn't been supported for six months.  Gutsty upgrades to Intrepid (7.10) which went EOL a week ago, which upgrades to 8.04.
[07:34] <Salajadin> blade
[07:34] <BladeNBrocade> and remove any bad characters u added in it and save it..
[07:34] <Salajadin> it seems her nvidia driver is still looking for type1
[07:34] <drinkycrow> i have no sound in firefox
[07:34] <anita20> thanks dasei
[07:34] <drinkycrow> flash plays ok
[07:34] <drinkycrow> but the sound doesn't
[07:34] <slap_stick> cool, so if i change my sources to point to the gutsy dist and do an update and an upgrade, that will do the trick?
[07:34] <Saiki> Flannel: you mean hardy, right?
[07:34] <phoe6> BladeNBrocade: I am over init=/bin/bash; but it does not been go into visudo /etc/sudoers
[07:34] <slap_stick> erm interprid not gutsy
[07:34] <Salajadin> Including the default font path /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType.
[07:35] <slap_stick> intrepid*
[07:35] <BladeNBrocade> phoe6: so u weren't able to access the file in this manner?
[07:35] <BladeNBrocade> i dont understand ur over it...
[07:35] <Flannel> Saiki: 8.04 is Hardy.
[07:35] <inasmu1> phoe6: is your /etc/ on a different filesystem from / ?
[07:35] <BladeNBrocade> dought it
[07:36] <Saiki> "Gutsty upgrades to Intrepid (7.10)"
[07:36] <Flannel> Saiki: Oh, yeah.  I do.
[07:36] <Saiki> lol
[07:36] <Flannel> slap_stick: sorry.  Gutsy (7.10) has reached EOL last week.  You should upgrade to 8.04.
[07:36] <Flannel> !upgrade | slap_stick
[07:36] <phoe6> I am trying again; and this time its success. :)
 "Gutsty upgrades to Intrepid (7.10)" <-- ... Intrepid is 8.10, not 7.10
[07:37] <BladeNBrocade> awesome
[07:37] <phoe6> I had User_Alias OWNER = skumaran NOPASS << This was wrong.
[07:37] <inasmu1> phoe6: glad to hear it, visudo won't let you save anything with syntax errors
[07:37] <Saiki> zhurai: quoted flannel
[07:37] <phoe6> yeah.
[07:37] <slap_stick> thanks
[07:37] <BladeNBrocade> now u know
[07:37] <phoe6> Thank you guys..
[07:37] <BladeNBrocade> np
[07:37] <zhurai> Saiki: ah
[07:37] <rose> i'm building an AirOs firmware...but i have error at [ah_osdep.o]
[07:38] <inasmu1> How would I set my laptop to automatically change the cpufreqd governor when on battery?
[07:38] <MarkJones> Is there actually a way to register an IRC screen name? Ive just been typing in the same one each time but never registering it.Just wondered.
[07:38] <Flannel> !register | MarkJones
[07:38] <MarkJones> !register
[07:38] <MarkJones> ?
[07:39] <Salajadin> inasmu! i think i know
[07:39] <Flannel> MarkJones: /msg nickserv help register
[07:40] <MarkJones> still lost.
[07:40] <MarkJones> hehe
[07:40] <Salajadin> inasmu1 i was wrong
[07:40] <Saiki> http://pastbin.com/m7edacde5
[07:40] <BladeNBrocade> Salajadin: sorry yes i saw that the X is trying to load type1 modules,,,
[07:40] <Saiki> my xorg.conf
[07:40] <BladeNBrocade> thank you
[07:40] <Flannel> MarkJones: type "/msg nickserv help register" without the quotes, hit enter.  You'll get a new query window with nickserv, asking for help about registering.
[07:41] <Saiki> np
[07:41] <Salajadin> but have you tried cpu frequency scaling monitor?
[07:41] <MarkJones> So where do I actually do the registering?
[07:41] <BladeNBrocade> lol Salajadin copy and paste is better
[07:41] <Salajadin> copy pasting what?
[07:41] <Salajadin> xorg?
[07:41] <ottarw> does anyone knows if exist any chat with audio?
[07:41] <inasmu> Salajadin: right now I'm using a gnome applet which lets me choose the governor, but it has no way of automatically switching when on battery
[07:41] <Saiki> Salajadin: no idea how to do that
[07:42] <MarkJones> Ok i got it helps if I actually read stuff.
[07:42] <Salajadin> yeah thats it
[07:42] <Salajadin> im using it too
[07:42] <MarkJones> Hooda thunkit
[07:42] <Salajadin> or maybe something ike that
[07:43] <Salajadin> i manually set my cpu frequency
[07:43] <inasmu> Salajadin: I could probably write some HAL scripts, but they would undoubtably be kludgy and there has to be a better way
[07:43] <highl> highl
[07:43] <Salajadin> to ondemand
[07:43] <Salajadin> performace
[07:43] <BladeNBrocade> hmm looks like the default generation by nvidia... Saiki copying and pasting the URL's and anything else you would expect to be accurate http://pastbin.com/m7edacde5 <--this isn't pastebin ;>
[07:43] <Salajadin> powersave
[07:43] <MarkJones> Jaunty notificatiosn are pretty cool addition.I likey!
[07:43] <highl> golf
[07:43] <Salajadin> or conserve
[07:43] <highl> gift
[07:43] <pixely> how do you restart alsa ?
[07:43] <Saiki> im'm typing them
[07:43] <BladeNBrocade> i see
[07:43] <Saiki> http://pastebin.com/m7edacde5
[07:43] <Salajadin> inasmu, try
[07:43] <Salajadin> wait
[07:43] <Saiki> bad keboard, sorry
[07:44] <BladeNBrocade> =)
[07:44] <Salajadin> checking add/remove
[07:44] <MarkJones> jaunty seems faster than intrepid by a little bit.
[07:45] <DasEi> anita20: one last question ; newer crt monitor ?
[07:45] <highl_> you
[07:45] <MarkJones> crt yuk
[07:45] <BladeNBrocade> they still make those things?
[07:45] <Salajadin> inasmu try dogtail script recorder
[07:46] <MarkJones> yeah no kidding
[07:46] <highl_> china
[07:46] <MarkJones> good old china
[07:46] <Salajadin> blade
[07:46] <DasEi> anita20: ?
[07:46] <inasmu> Salajadin: what does that do? remember executed commands and then perform them at a later time?
[07:46] <Salajadin> what happened to saikis xorg
[07:47] <Salajadin> itrecords any desktop stuff you do
[07:47] <Salajadin> like macros
[07:47] <BladeNBrocade> nothing really interesting there its what nvidia generated
[07:47] <Salajadin> but i guess hal is better
[07:47] <Saiki> BladeNBrocade: exactly
[07:47] <c0l2e> in openoffice 3 you cannot treat string as 0 anymore???
[07:48] <Saiki> but ti not working, workd a few days ago :@
[07:48] <Salajadin> hmmmm should we let her use envy?
[07:48] <Saiki> <him
[07:48] <inasmu> Salajadin: can it be called automatically from events like "on battery power"?
[07:48] <coz_> ugg
[07:48] <Salajadin> sorry him
[07:48] <Saiki> np
[07:48] <Saiki> lol
[07:48] <BladeNBrocade> if it works for her
[07:49] <Salajadin> hmmmm inasmu, it utilizes python
[07:50] <Salajadin> i think it does but you need to manually add scripts to that
[07:50] <DasEi> anita20: ?
[07:50] <Salajadin> ok lehs try envy!
[07:50] <Salajadin> wait
[07:50] <Saiki> all ears
[07:50] <Salajadin> does envy support latest ubuntu
[07:51] <Saiki> evyng-core?
[07:52] <highl_> error
[07:52] <DasEi> Salajadin, yep, faound in apt
[07:53] <Salajadin> thnx
[07:53] <Salajadin> uhhhhhh
[07:53] <Saiki> downloaded and installed already lol
[07:54] <Saiki> ??
[07:54] <Salajadin> saiki holdon
[07:55] <Salajadin> sudo apt-get install envyng-qt
[07:55] <Saiki> k
[07:55] <Salajadin> thats the gui for it
[07:55] <DasE1> anita20 ?
[07:56] <Saiki> rebooting
[07:57] <samsoni_> #surabaya
[07:57] <Saiki> $%&*
[07:57] <yuwei> 有人吗
[07:57] <Saiki> still in lowbgfx mode :@
[07:58] <Saiki> type1 diesn't exist
[07:58] <yuwei> hello ...
[07:58] <Saiki> ideas
[07:58] <Saiki> ?
[07:58] <_fynn> what does that mean? i dont understand what i should do.. "[..] or you have to export GTK_MODULES=globalmenu-gnome manually in either .gnomerc or .bash_profile."
[07:58] <inasmu> Salajadin: I figured it out, and I was a little confused, I needed to write the scripts for acpi, not hal
[07:58] <yuwei> hello
[07:59] <Saiki> !hi
[07:59] <Saiki> !ask
[07:59] <Saiki> Salajadin: still the type1 error, ideas?
[07:59] <yuwei> hello ..............
[08:00] <quibbler> !ask | yuwei
[08:00] <Saiki> !ask | yuwei
[08:00] <Salajadin> hmmmm
[08:00] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: u did an upgrade no?
[08:00] <yuwei> no ......
[08:00] <Saiki> a partial ibex forced
[08:01] <Salajadin> th?
[08:01] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: u need to reinstall the drivers
[08:01] <yuwei> china
[08:01] <Saiki> BladeNBrocade: did that, a few times
[08:01] <quibbler> !cn | yuwei
[08:01] <Salajadin> saiki did you purge it?
[08:01] <Saiki> yes
[08:01] <BladeNBrocade> did your kernel update as well? exactly,, did u --purge?
[08:01] <Salajadin> have u installed nvidia via envy?
[08:01] <yuwei> i don't know ...........
[08:02] <Saiki> yes
[08:02] <Saiki> 2.6.27-11
[08:02] <Salajadin> you sure
[08:02] <Saiki> my kernel
[08:02] <Salajadin> saiki
[08:02] <Saiki> Salajadin: yesm 100% positive
[08:02] <yuwei> 有中国人吗 。。。
[08:02] <Salajadin> did you run envy already?
[08:02] <Saiki> yes
[08:02] <yuwei> 能说中文吗 。。。
[08:02] <Salajadin> and installed the correct driver?
[08:03] <Saiki> yes
[08:03] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: when u installed the driver what mode are u in?
[08:03] <Saiki> but still says type1 dosn' exist
[08:03] <Salajadin> are you ssure your card is not legacy?
[08:03] <Saiki> define "mode"?
[08:03] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: what are you in a GUI mode?
[08:03] <yuwei> 那你说句中文。。
[08:03] <Saiki> yes, I'm in a gui
[08:03] <inasmu> !cn | yuwei
[08:03] <BladeNBrocade> this isnt installing the driver correctly
[08:04] <yuwei> 。。。。。。。。。
[08:04] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: have u ever stopped gdm then installed the driver then started gdm?
[08:04] <Saiki> rebooted
[08:04] <dstrbdfrk1> hey guys my comp started maximizing my windows past my top bar neone kno how to make it stop?
[08:04] <Flannel> yuwei: /join #ubuntu-cn
[08:04] <BladeNBrocade> but the GUI was up when u installed no?
[08:04] <Saiki> yes
[08:04] <BladeNBrocade> this needs to be installed with X not running
[08:04] <Saiki> I used envy
[08:05] <BladeNBrocade> ...
[08:05] <Salajadin> i guess blade'sright
[08:05] <yuwei> i don't know ...........
[08:05] <Salajadin> this is not working for you
[08:05] <dstrbdfrk1> whats the command to reset x
[08:05] <Saiki> Iwell, I'm in a root prompt in safe
[08:05] <Salajadin> ctrl alt backspace
[08:05] <BladeNBrocade> now install it
[08:05] <BladeNBrocade> that too
[08:05] <Saiki> cmd?
[08:06] <BladeNBrocade> find nvidiarun script and run it
[08:06] <BladeNBrocade> ./<scriptname>
[08:06] <yuwei> 	
[08:06] <yuwei> Chinese people do
[08:06] <Salajadin> brb
[08:06] <BladeNBrocade> is it uninstalled now ?
[08:06] <Flannel> yuwei: English only in this channel.  What language do you speak?
[08:07] <BladeNBrocade> uninstall nvidia COMPLETELY,, stay in command line mode,, and install from the script as root,, restart X and u believe you would be fine there...
[08:07] <Schlep> Anyone know how to keep adobe from exiting fullscreen when exiting the screen for another comp in synergy?
[08:07] <Saiki> sh nvidia180.run work?
[08:07] <BladeNBrocade> that would work i believe.. ./ is the same diff
[08:07] <Saiki> ok, next?
[08:07] <unop> Saiki, better to.  chmod +x  nvidia180.run; ./nvidia180.run  # the .run file might not be a shell script
[08:08] <BladeNBrocade> well there u have it.. make it executable if its not
[08:08] <BladeNBrocade> next reboot
[08:08] <FlashGordon2000_> unop, are you helping him install nvida drivers?
[08:08] <eper3z> how can i upgrade to 9.04 from 8.10 w/o erasing my 8.10 install?
[08:08] <inasmu> !upgrade | eper3z
[08:08] <BladeNBrocade> umm
[08:09] <eper3z> ok thanks
[08:10] <FlashGordon2000_> saiki: if its relevant, this helped http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5086971&postcount=6
[08:10] <yuwei> hello
[08:10] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: when u finished rebooting ur X should be fine
[08:10] <yuwei> Chinese people do ????
[08:11] <quibbler> yuwei, type this : /join #ubuntu-cn
[08:12] <yuwei> Chinese people do ????
[08:12] <BladeNBrocade> ?
[08:12] <yuwei> ?
[08:12] <BladeNBrocade> karate?
[08:12] <FlashGordon2000_> Can anyone assist me with a problem regarding Nvidia's x server and it not being able to save /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:12] <Salajadin> wow saiki i think you better use flashgordons link
[08:13] <BladeNBrocade> sudo nvidia-settings
[08:13] <yuwei> ..............
[08:13] <yuwei> hello
[08:13] <Salajadin> i believe that link is comprehensive enough
[08:13] <FlashGordon2000_> salajadin: it made my x work lol
[08:13] <Saiki> hm... I didn't have build essentia, wtf?
[08:13] <Salajadin> it shows proper uninstallation and installation of nvidia
[08:14] <Salajadin> well there are different cases
[08:14] <Salajadin> envy made mine work ll
[08:14] <Salajadin> lol
[08:14] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: that wont work when u need to build the driver..
[08:14] <Saiki> tried eny again
[08:14] <Salajadin> sometimes manual install makes t work
[08:14] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: that envy thing is weird..
[08:14] <BladeNBrocade> oopsy i mean Salajadin
[08:14] <Salajadin> why is it weird?
[08:14] <BladeNBrocade> new to me
[08:15] <Salajadin> lol
[08:15] <Saiki> hm...
[08:15] <Salajadin> its just an automationo script for installing ati and nv drivers
[08:15] <Saiki> moe errors :@
[08:15] <Salajadin> saiki
[08:15] <BladeNBrocade> i see
[08:15] <Saiki> ya?
[08:15] <Salajadin> have u tried flash's link?
[08:16] <Saiki> not yet
[08:16] <FlashGordon2000_> its a quite comprehensive guide to removing previous attempts and installing
[08:16] <Saiki> trying .run again first
[08:16] <FlashGordon2000_> its your best bet
[08:16] <BladeNBrocade> hmm
[08:16] <BladeNBrocade> maybe u should view the link.. if that run didn't work the first time,, chances are it wont the second
[08:16] <^Phantom2^> YAY
[08:17] <^Phantom2^> YIPEE!!!!
[08:17] <^Phantom2^> yes, my caps lock got stuck
[08:17] <^Phantom2^> it worked
[08:17] <Salajadin> if nothing works install msttcorefonts lol
[08:17] <^Phantom2^> perfectly
[08:17] <^Phantom2^> Thank you so much guys!!
[08:17] <BladeNBrocade> =Z
[08:18]  * BladeNBrocade loads vuze
[08:18] <Saiki> BladeNBrocade: got build this time
[08:18] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: awesome..
[08:18] <Saiki> lol
[08:18] <Salajadin> great
[08:18] <BladeNBrocade> have u not started X at all? because that should work
[08:19] <Saiki> I was in recovery
[08:19] <BladeNBrocade> o
[08:20] <daning> Hi. When exactly can ubuntu 9.01 be downloaded?
[08:20] <inasmu> !jaunty | daning
[08:20] <Saiki> ok, trying the guide now :@
[08:20]  * BladeNBrocade waving his 9.04 beta around
[08:20] <Saiki> didn't work
[08:20] <FlashGordon2000_> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.mybackup
[08:20] <FlashGordon2000_> this did not work
[08:20] <BladeNBrocade> blah
[08:20] <Salajadin> saiki
[08:21] <Salajadin> there are some commands in the guide that we forgot to do
[08:21] <maxagaz> how to configure the resolution automatically for a new large screen (for an intel video card) ?
[08:21] <Wizzup> One day to 9.04's official release :)
[08:21] <BladeNBrocade> sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia*
[08:22] <jzeee> Hey I installed ubuntu, and was fine.. then out of nowhere about 2 inch of the with on each side is blacked out..HELP PLEASE!
[08:22] <Salajadin> T_T
[08:22] <daning> Wizzup: I'm really excited about this.
[08:22] <Salajadin>  <== persecuted
[08:22] <BladeNBrocade> or sudo nvidia-installer --uninstall
[08:22] <Salajadin> yep
[08:22] <BladeNBrocade> ?? Saiki which did u use to remove?
[08:22] <Salajadin> and the x.org file dits
[08:22] <Wizzup> daning: I am using it now, I really like it. :-)
[08:23] <mchelen1> how can nic card be set to use dhcp from command line?
[08:23] <jzeee> Two inches on both side of the screen are BLACKED out what do i do???
[08:23] <Salajadin> mch i know
[08:23] <FlashGordon2000_> gksudo nvidia-settings
[08:23] <jzeee> anyone know what 2 do?
[08:23] <daning> Wizzup: Some thing is don't stable,like ext4. So I have not tried it.
[08:24] <Wizzup> daning: I haven't triend ext4 either, I don't know it too well yet
[08:24] <jzeee> My monitor was fine before then 2inch on each side of monitor the is black on side of screen
[08:24] <Saiki> step 5 won't work
[08:24] <Salajadin> /etc/network/interface
[08:24] <inasmu> jzeee: have you tried going to System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution and changing that?
[08:24] <daning> Wizzup: I want to taste kubuntu, but I am used to gnome.
[08:24] <jzeee> Yes that is what mess it up
[08:24] <pr0t0c0n> what is the command to install the xubuntu desktop from the command line
[08:24] <Wizzup> daning: I don't like KDE as much as Gnome, so I don't use Kubuntu. :-)
[08:25] <inasmu> jzeee: you mean you changed the resolution to one that wasn't widescreen, so it centered it in the middle? have you tried changing it back?
[08:25] <jzeee> insami I got a smaller screen for a desktop pic but the resolution was too small so I put it back
[08:25] <anita20> I tried using a config someone at this forum provided me with, in order to run an nvidia TNT" pro on xubuntu and monitor looks strange
[08:25] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: why wont adding the nv module to xorg work?
[08:25] <anita20> I don't think we got the right frecuency. I see the information four times and not properly
 we set it for 80hz how do i change that back?
[08:25] <maxagaz> what is the best tool to have gmail notification on gnome ?
[08:25] <rumpel> @pr0t0c0n install xfce via adept and switch to this on login-screen...
[08:25] <jzeee> It was fine, even the boot up screen where you enter your username is screwed up
[08:25] <^Phantom2^> are there other visual window effects than the default ones, which are the zoom on to the screen effect and fall away from screen effect and stuff?
[08:25] <jzeee> it bigger than normal
[08:26] <brubelsabs> -pedantic option for programms compiled with Qt doesn't work, on other Linux distros this is working... any ideas?
[08:26] <jzeee> but a inch or two on both sides of the monitor have black life down each of the sides
[08:26] <rumpel> @maxagaz i have alltray with evolution as parameter ... dont know, if its the best/easiest...
[08:26] <rumpel> but it blinks, when new mail arrives ^^
[08:26] <anita20> How do I change the configuration back without seeing the scren properly?
[08:26] <jzeee> If I put the monitor to smaller than this it get really bad looking
[08:27] <jzeee> my screen is not showing proparply
[08:27] <inasmu> maxagaz: a quick apt-cache search reveals cgmail, checkgmail, and gmail-notify, so check those out too
[08:27] <BladeNBrocade> cgmail
[08:27] <pragad7> hello
[08:28] <Saiki> BladeNBrocade: read step 5 on the list
[08:28] <anita20> I have legacy nvidia. tnt2. and tried installing the drivers, since it didn't workin (i would only get 800*600 as a resolution) somebody here provided me with differentconfig and now the screen doesn't load
[08:28] <Saiki> it says I can't qrite to it
[08:28] <BladeNBrocade> i did read it
[08:28] <Salajadin> mchelen1 try sudo gedit /etc/network/interface
[08:28] <BladeNBrocade> u need to have root privs to write there
[08:28] <inasmu> jzeee: have you tried resetting it to what it should be, then rebooting (or just restarting X)?
[08:28] <Salajadin> sudo it
[08:28] <Salajadin> sudo sudo
[08:29] <^Phantom2^> in other words, are there other visual effects for when the windows open and close and stuff?
[08:29] <BladeNBrocade> lol nano?
[08:29] <Salajadin> sorry
[08:29] <Salajadin> nano
[08:29] <Salajadin> lolreplace gedit with nano
[08:29] <BladeNBrocade> well i would use nano
[08:30] <Salajadin> or vi
[08:30] <Salajadin> sorry
[08:30] <BladeNBrocade> yep
[08:30] <Salajadin> was looking at terminal for command
[08:30] <BladeNBrocade> vi rocks
[08:30] <Salajadin> vvvvvvivivivivi
[08:30] <Salajadin> lol
[08:30] <BladeNBrocade> can't stand gedit =(
[08:30] <Salajadin> lol
[08:31] <Salajadin> i use gedit when i need to look at files but not edit them
[08:31] <BladeNBrocade> u know what i noticed the other day.... tomboy notes is like 1 gazillion times better than notepad could ever be
[08:31] <BladeNBrocade> less/more
[08:31] <mchelen1> how can eth0 be set to use dhcp from command line?
[08:31] <BladeNBrocade> man ifconfig
[08:31] <Salajadin> mchelen1 try sudo nano /etc/network/interface
[08:31] <mgolisch> if its debian that is
[08:32] <Salajadin> or just check here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-ubuntu-system-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address.html
[08:32] <^Phantom2^> srsly
[08:32] <inasmu> ^Phantom^: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/desktop-effects/C/compiz-configure-advanced.html
[08:32] <mchelen1> salajadin, it is blank
[08:32] <TheShahFactor> I can cd into a folder from command prompt but cannot view it using ls -all ....Any clues why this might be happening
[08:32] <^Phantom2^> ubuntu is AWESONE
[08:32] <^Phantom2^> awesome*
[08:33] <^Phantom2^> inasmu:  thankies
[08:33] <BladeNBrocade> mchelen1: u must edit it
[08:33] <BladeNBrocade> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[08:33] <mgolisch> it shouldnt be blank
[08:33] <mchelen1> what should go there?
[08:33] <mgolisch> mchelen1: are you on debian?
[08:33] <BladeNBrocade> mgolisch: save the lo interface no..
[08:33] <BladeNBrocade> is it really blank?
[08:33] <mgolisch> or a derivate like ubuntu?
[08:33] <BladeNBrocade> or is there an entry for loop back?
[08:33] <Salajadin> mchelen1 try sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces sorry lacking an s in the end
[08:34] <BladeNBrocade> =)
[08:34] <Salajadin> lol
[08:34] <palmje> does anyone know why I wouldn't be able to connect to an unprotected wireless network?
[08:34] <BladeNBrocade> nano will open the file thats not there folks
[08:34] <Salajadin> haha just check the link i gave you
[08:34] <mgolisch> thats why you use tab
[08:34] <inasmu> palmje: they only allow certain mac addresses?
[08:34] <BladeNBrocade> lol no thats why i use tab
[08:35] <BladeNBrocade> my life consists of tab completion and copy and pasting
[08:35] <palmje> inasmu: Its my own wireless router and it has all security turned off...
[08:35] <mchelen1> Yay that worked, broken dist-upgrade messed up the net config
[08:35] <BladeNBrocade> cool
[08:35] <inasmu> palmje: you have dhcp turned on for the router?
[08:35] <Salajadin> great
[08:35] <palmje> inasmu: yes
[08:35] <Salajadin> i cant use my tab because my fingers cant reach it
[08:36] <inasmu> palmje: can you get an IP when plugging in to it?
[08:36] <Salajadin> im in  a very awkward posistion
[08:36] <Salajadin> the lasiest type
[08:36] <BladeNBrocade> lol
[08:36] <palmje> inasmu: that works fine
[08:36] <gm|lap> hey, does anyone know how to update the atheros hal in 8.10?
[08:36] <Saiki> BladeNBrocade: same scren issue
[08:36] <Saiki> I give up
[08:37] <Salajadin> what happened to saiki
[08:37] <Saiki> least it's working
[08:37] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: i thought we gave up long ago..
[08:37] <Fersure> Hey. I can't seem to get my screen resolution bigger than 800x600 in Ubuntu 8.10. The xorg ATI driver is installed (which is correct). Also, I'm running Ubuntu in a VM. (Incase that makes any difference)
[08:37] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: j/p
[08:37] <Saiki> lol
[08:37] <Saiki> my screen is a 22" widescreen
[08:37] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: so ur still not properly loading nvidia drivers huh?
[08:37] <inasmu> palmje: where does the network connection fail?
[08:37] <BladeNBrocade> and ur display is 10"
[08:37] <Salajadin> can you check glxinfo
[08:37] <Saiki> xubuntu is using onlt bout half of it
[08:37] <BladeNBrocade> lol
[08:38] <BladeNBrocade> hey i think u may be saving energy =)
[08:38] <dstrbdfrk1> hey guys i did updates and now my windows are maximizing to big ne help ive had this prob before but i cant remember .. i think all i had to do is run a cammand that reconfigs active x neone know what im talking about??
[08:38] <Salajadin> if youve installed nvidia correclty t will have direct rendering: yes
[08:39] <BladeNBrocade> i agree.. i still think nvidia hasn't installed properly.. have u re acquired the driver and tried again or is it the same driver u just been uninstalling and reinsalling?
[08:39] <Saiki> I want to use it all :@
[08:39] <Saiki> like it was before
[08:39] <BladeNBrocade> =(
[08:39] <BladeNBrocade> before the upgrade?
[08:39] <Salajadin> saiki run glxinfo and glxgears
[08:39] <palmje> inasmu: I tell it to connect and it sits there says "attempting to join wireless network 'linksys'" and gets no further
[08:39] <Saiki> out of nowhere got the type1 error
[08:40] <Saiki> glx missing
[08:40] <Salajadin> wtf
[08:40] <BladeNBrocade> hmm
[08:40] <Fersure> Anyone know if I need to do anything else? The driver for my video card is installed. Yet the screen resolution just won't go bigger than 800x600. ._.
[08:40] <Salajadin> you havent installed it correctly
[08:40] <BladeNBrocade> agreed
[08:40] <Saiki> figures..
[08:40] <Salajadin> edit your x.org config
[08:40] <Salajadin> fersure
[08:40] <Salajadin> edit your x.org config
[08:40] <Saiki> I folloed the guide to the letter
[08:40] <Ademan> is there a convenient way to prevent gnome-terminal -x echo "Whatever" from closing? something similar to, i believe, the pause command in windows (prompts with 'press any key to continue' and blocks until then)
[08:41] <Fersure> Salajadin, where is that located? Can't remember off-hand.
[08:41] <Salajadin> Ademan
[08:41] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: this is why i dont trust this envy stuff
[08:41] <Salajadin> command | more
[08:41] <Salajadin> command | less
[08:41] <Saiki> lol xorg.conf is blank
[08:41] <Salajadin> LOL
[08:41] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: installing drivers are easy if ur hardware fits them,,
[08:41] <Ademan> Salajadin: I suppose that works, thanks
[08:41] <Salajadin> no prob
[08:41] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: what is your method of booting without starting X?
[08:42] <Saiki> it booted
[08:42] <gm|lap> erm... lemme try rewording...
[08:42] <Saiki> I just did the nvidia conf
[08:42] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: no... i mean how are u starting in a non Graphical Mode?
[08:42] <Saiki> what do I need to dit?
[08:42] <gm|lap> how do i update ath_hal / ath_pci in intrepid?
[08:42] <Saiki> recovery
[08:42] <Saiki> root shell
[08:42] <BladeNBrocade> k
[08:43] <Saiki> I have xorg open now
[08:43] <BladeNBrocade> and this is when the driver is completely removed no?
[08:43] <inasmu> palmje: if your router doesn't have any important configuration on it, I'd say try to reset that and try again
[08:43] <BladeNBrocade> close it for now.. i dont think xorg is ur issue here
[08:43] <Saiki> ya
[08:43] <Ademan> gm|lap: what are you trying to do? get your atheros card working?
[08:43] <gm|lap> yeah
[08:43] <Ademan> gm|lap: have you looked at the ubuntu wiki pages for atheros?
[08:44] <Salajadin> Fersure hsudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:44] <gm|lap>  [   25.416818] wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13)
[08:44] <gm|lap> nope
[08:44] <Ademan> gm|lap: newish lenovo?
[08:44] <BladeNBrocade> what output do you get from the script? is it succesful? what is in logs when the script completes.. etc etc
[08:44] <gm|lap> compaq presario CQ60-210TU
[08:44] <Saiki> ?
[08:44] <kraut> moin
[08:45] <Ademan> gm|lap: how old is that? (sorry, don't wanna google the model right now)
[08:45] <BladeNBrocade> nvidia.run?
[08:45] <gm|lap> erm, i got it quite recently
[08:45] <duybao78> duybao
[08:45] <gm|lap> on special, though
[08:45] <Salajadin> Fersure: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[08:45] <Saiki> yay! it's back!
[08:45] <lirvan> hello
[08:45] <BladeNBrocade> <<lost again>>
[08:45] <gm|lap> i can tell you that ubuntu 8.10 was installed after about 4 different unices failed to install properly
[08:46] <Saiki> who thought a driver could be so damn hard :@
[08:46] <gm|lap> including ubuntu 8.04
[08:46] <BladeNBrocade> so the re install from root console did work?
[08:46] <gm|lap> do you have something like debian's module-assistant?
[08:46] <Ademan> gm|lap: so fairly recent probably? one sec, lemme poke around, I had an atheros card, lemme get you the resources I used, are you comfortable with the command line?
[08:46] <gm|lap> yes
[08:46] <Salajadin> i tot she already did that?
[08:46] <BladeNBrocade> reinstall and reconfig..
[08:46] <gm|lap> considering that i have installed netbsd to a usb stick
[08:46] <Salajadin> imean he
[08:46] <gm|lap> before
[08:46] <Saiki> Ademan: I use ndiswrapper for mine
[08:46] <BladeNBrocade> lol he
[08:46] <gm|lap> and that requires a lot of commandline.
[08:47] <gm|lap> i use freebsd on my desktop.
[08:47] <BladeNBrocade> i love freebsd
[08:47] <Ademan> Saiki: I used the ath5k driver
[08:47] <^Phantom2^> this is so cool
[08:47] <^Phantom2^> thanks guys :D
[08:47]  * BladeNBrocade remembers working @ cheap web hosting companies using FreeBSD
[08:47] <^Phantom2^> my foot and leg are asleep so i need to take a walk lol
[08:48] <Saiki> Ademan: I couldn't get that to work
[08:48] <Ademan> ah, that sucks
[08:48] <gm|lap> i think i'll need atl2-source... would i also need madwifi-tools?
[08:48] <palmje> inasmu: resetting makes no difference
[08:49] <gm|lap> freebsd is quite good when you use the ule scheduler... although i had to put up with the earlier one for a short period of time... it was horrible
[08:49] <Ademan> gm|lap: http://madwifi-project.org/  is where i'd go, identify whether you want to use ath9k madwifi or ath5k based on the atheros card you have, and then follow the instructions they've got on there
[08:49] <gm|lap> 7.0-release
[08:49] <inasmu> palmje: can you pastebin the outputs of ifconfig and iwconfig?
[08:49] <gm|lap> cheers
[08:49] <Salajadin> si is saiki's issue fixed?
[08:49] <Saiki> ya, finally
[08:50] <Saiki> thanks guys
[08:50] <BladeNBrocade> i like the ports system especially, also like & love jails
[08:50] <Saiki> only took me 3 days and 4 hrs extra :@
[08:50] <BladeNBrocade> jails is no comparison to solaris containers though =)
[08:50] <Saiki> thanks muchly guys
[08:50] <Ademan> gm|lap: good luck, I spent alot of time on it... there's a #madwifi here on freenode, it's pretty slow, but between them and #ubuntu you should be able to get going.
[08:50] <BladeNBrocade> =)
[08:50] <BladeNBrocade> Saiki: do u have wobbly windows now? =)
[08:50] <gm|lap> ok
[08:51] <Saiki> not gonna bother
[08:51] <BladeNBrocade> lol hehe dont blame u
[08:51] <Saiki> just needed the regular stuff
[08:51] <c0l2e> openoffice.org room is a bit dull.. can anyone confirm that the openoffice 3 don't treat string as 0 when included in a computation??
[08:51] <platius> gm|lap; http://www.ubuntugeek.com/new-madwifi-now-supports-ar2425-in-madwifi-trunk-branch.html if this is yours
[08:51] <gm|lap> uh, if you're wanting compiz, you NEED ccsm.
[08:51] <MTeck> Hey, if I lose a connection to a server, how can I restore the server and rejoin all the channels I was connected to?
[08:51] <Saiki> I like them, but not interested for now
[08:51] <Salajadin> or te rain drops edffect?
[08:51] <BladeNBrocade> with an autojoin line in ur conf
[08:52] <Saiki> used to, not now
[08:52] <MTeck> BladeNBrocade: I don't want to use autojoin... I still have irssi running w/ the channels open
[08:52] <BladeNBrocade> i love wobbly windows
[08:52] <Salajadin> i think saiki will install have rotating desktop
[08:52] <Saiki> :P
[08:52] <BladeNBrocade> hell have desktop wall by tomorrow
[08:52] <BladeNBrocade> =)
[08:52] <Saiki> more than that, I assure you
[08:52] <Saiki> but not this morning
[08:52] <mgolisch> how would i go to move all files older than a certain date?
[08:53] <Saiki> tis 4am
[08:53] <mgolisch> or find them atfirst
[08:53] <BladeNBrocade> monstah: find
[08:53] <gm|lap> AR242x...
[08:53] <BladeNBrocade> and exec
[08:53] <palmje> inasmu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/155770/
[08:53] <^Phantom2^> is it safe for me to access (and possibly, if the need arises) files on my internal hard drive within ubuntu, since ubuntu does not know the windows xp install is on there?
[08:53] <BladeNBrocade> or xargs
[08:53] <gm|lap> (according to lspci)
[08:53] <mgolisch> how would i do that?
[08:53] <gm|lap> it's abg though
[08:53] <gm|lap> i don't think it's n
[08:53] <gm|lap> so would ath5k be what i want?
[08:53] <^Phantom2^> like videos, music, pictures, etc.
[08:54] <Saiki> so, lata guys, thanks alot
[08:54] <Salajadin> bye saiki
[08:54] <palmje> ^Phantom2^: it won't cause any problems
[08:54] <^Phantom2^> yay thankies
[08:54] <^Phantom2^> :D
[08:54] <BladeNBrocade> monstah: for instance u can find . -name "something*tar.gz" -size +1024k -mtime +7 | awk '{print $11}'
[08:54] <BladeNBrocade> u can back tick that and do what u want with it
[08:55] <^Phantom2^> also, how do i create another server window in xchat, so that i can chat on multiple servers at once?
[08:55] <inasmu> palmje: does your wireless work with other networks?
[08:55]  * stardux me
[08:55] <mgolisch> wow i want to find/select all files older oct 2007
[08:55] <unitedpotsmokers> i hope everything is fine...
[08:55] <BladeNBrocade> monstah: mtime is modification time maybe u would want the access time with atime...
[08:56] <mgolisch> no idea howto do that
[08:56] <BladeNBrocade> thats easy.. u can do that with a ls -ltrh actually and awk..
[08:56] <gordonjcp> mgolisch: find and -mtime?
[08:56] <BladeNBrocade> gordonjcp: yea like i just said
[08:56] <mgolisch> gordonjcp: isnt that n*24h
[08:56] <palmje> inasmu: yes it does - I was recently on someone elses wireless and I use the wireless at University
[08:56] <BladeNBrocade> yep
[08:56] <mgolisch> wow thats ugly
[08:56] <BladeNBrocade> it works for me =)
[08:57] <gordonjcp> ^Phantom2^: if your nick wasn't so annoying I'd find the answer
[08:57] <BladeNBrocade> u can also egrep out 2007 of ls -ltrh
[08:57] <unitedpotsmokers> guys, i forgot what channel to see a best application for ubuntu? what is the name eh?
[08:57] <BladeNBrocade> awk the proper column and backtick that
[08:57] <gm|lap> ^Phantom2^: hint: it's Ctrl+T
[08:57] <dstrbdfrk1> my wondows are opening up to big for my screen i cant get to the x to close them ... how can i fix this ???
[08:57] <inasmu> palmje: hrm, thats really weird.  I'm going to do some research and try to get back to you
[08:58] <^Phantom2^> thankies :D
[08:58] <BladeNBrocade> but find is built for this type of thing.. being that its.. find
[08:58] <mgolisch> oh there is -newer
[08:58] <mgolisch> that might help
[08:58] <^Phantom2^> oops...
[08:58] <BladeNBrocade> exactly 'man find'.. all types of goodies
[08:59] <gm|lap> as dirty as it sounds, it can be really helpful.
[08:59] <palmje> inasmu: thanks - its a linksys wrt160n if that helps at all (the wireless networks I have gotten on are G and this is N...)
[08:59] <gm|lap> such a shame this laptop sucks for battery life
[08:59] <gm|lap> although i suppose two hours isn't *too* bad
[09:00] <unitedpotsmokers> !best software
[09:00] <dstrbdfrk1> !reconfigure x
[09:00] <inasmu> !askthebot
[09:00] <ubuntistas> when is the final version of ubu?
[09:01] <kaushal> when is Firefox 3.0.9 going to be added in Ubuntu 8.04 repository ?
[09:01] <dstrbdfrk1> my windows are maximizing too big for my screen neone know how to fix?????
[09:01] <Madpilot> ubuntistas, the final release of 9.04, you mean? Thursday sometime.
[09:01] <ubuntistas> aha tomorrow?
[09:01] <linny> hello #ubuntu i have a ati hd2600 using the fglrx propritary drivers it also has some hd audio features that are conflicting with my sound card how do i tell what sound midules are loaded with a view to blacklist the offending module, i know this is possible because i did it with a prevois install but i forgot what i did
[09:02] <Madpilot> kaushal, quite likely never - releases get security updates only, unless you enable the -backports repository
[09:02]  * cobra-the-joker is waiting for ubuntu 9.04 ...and wishes it got some support for intel FX
[09:03] <ubuntistas> how can i upgrade from ubuntu 8.10?
[09:03] <inasmu> !upgrade | ubuntistas
[09:04] <Mr_Kaizer> Greetings
[09:05] <un_dave> hey all, i need a quick way to copy all files from one folder to another. but the destination is FAT formatted, and i think there are few big files that might fail, which i just want to ignore.
[09:05] <un_dave> so like 'cp /source /mnt/dest' but with some sort of ignore errors option
[09:05] <Madpilot> un_dave, "man cp"- there might be a 'force' or 'quiet' arg you can append
[09:07] <un_dave> it does have a -f (force) option, but the description is confusing... is that actually what it means?
[09:07] <Mr_Kaizer> I need some help getting Ubuntu to boot, it seems to have a slight case of morning sickness. I installed Ubuntu (8.10) for the first time on Monday, it worked like a charm on my HP Pavillion dv9000. I went to bed content with casting off the shackles of Windows. But when I tried to turn on the comp the next morning, it wouldn't boot past the password screen.
[09:08]  * konubinix 
[09:08] <Mr_Kaizer> The screen would stay the start-up cream color, or the background would appear, but nothing else.
[09:08] <s3r3n1t7_> Mr_Kaizer, what password screen?
[09:08] <gm|lap> i'm assuming the login screen.
[09:08] <Mr_Kaizer> Aye, login
[09:08] <s3r3n1t7_> Mr_Kaizer, do you see the login at all?
[09:09] <Mr_Kaizer> Yeah, I can log inn just fine, but it won't work after that
[09:09] <ubuntistas> will the upgradee be displyed in update manager?
[09:09] <s3r3n1t7_> ubuntistas, if there are updates they will be shown there
[09:09] <linny> ok i found the module SND_HDA_INTEL how to i stop it from loading
[09:09] <crushyy> is there anyway to undo what fsck has done to my drive?
[09:09] <raylu> Mr_Kaizer: sounds like you no longer own some files in your home directory
[09:09] <s3r3n1t7_> Mr_Kaizer, Alright. So the boot process goes fine, it's just the login that goes wrong?
[09:09] <raylu> Mr_Kaizer: most likely because you ran some commands as root and it created them for you
[09:10] <gm|lap> crushyy: i have a feeling that there isn't. what did it do?
[09:10] <ubuntistas> i mean upgrades s3r3n1t7
[09:10] <s3r3n1t7_> ubuntistas, upgrades as in version upgrades? Depends on your settings.
[09:10] <gm|lap> consider that this isn't windows, as, well, there isn't any undelete mechanism in ext2 to start with
[09:10] <Mr_Kaizer> I can enter my username and password, the Ubuntu startup tune plays, but the desktop won't come up
[09:10] <crushyy> gm|lap: it made all my files and folder gone. and now all i have is a folder lost+found in my drive
[09:10] <s3r3n1t7_> Mr_Kaizer, Hmm that's not that good. Do you have access to that system now?
[09:11] <gm|lap> ouch.
[09:11] <Mr_Kaizer> Unfortunately not, no
[09:11] <gm|lap> what's in that folder, anyway?
[09:11] <Mr_Kaizer> The weird thing is still to come though
[09:11] <crushyy> some million folders like #10087123 etc
[09:11] <gm|lap> either fsck is broken or your hard drive is SEVERELY broken
[09:11] <s3r3n1t7_> Mr_Kaizer, what i'm thinking might be wrong is that some files aren't owned by your user. Did you run any commands as root?
[09:11] <crushyy> and some thousands files like #02348234 also
[09:12] <gm|lap> i take it you've booted onto a livecd?
[09:12] <crushyy> hard drive is fine. its just one partition of that.
[09:12] <s3r3n1t7_> crushy, that's normal behavior for fsck if the drive was corrupted.
[09:12] <Mr_Kaizer> Yeah, it boots just fine on a Live CD
[09:12] <Mr_Kaizer> And I don't think I've run any commands as root
[09:12] <crushyy> drive wasnt corrupted :( it did. now i cant even recover
[09:12] <Mr_Kaizer> I reinstalled it yesterday
[09:12] <crushyy> is there anyway i can recover my projcets and files?
[09:12] <Mr_Kaizer> Rebooted several times with no problems
[09:13] <s3r3n1t7_> Mr_Kaizer, Could you precede answer with my name please? s3r and then hit tab will do it. Can you tell me exactly what you did after the installation?
[09:13] <crushyy> gm|lap: no i am on windows for the moment
[09:13] <Mr_Kaizer> But this morning, it was broken again
[09:13] <manav> volume control is not working on my ubuntu machine
[09:13] <gm|lap> so how did you find that out?
[09:14] <s3r3n1t7_> !sound | manav
[09:14] <manav> yes sound !
[09:14] <crushyy> i found it when i booted on livecd as well as ext2fs
[09:14] <manav> ALSA is installed with all maximum volume set
[09:15] <s3r3n1t7_> manav, ALSA is installed by default. Please follow the first link given in the factoid.
[09:15] <antonius> alright, I'm coming back to ubuntu from sabayon to try jaunty...i thought it was ext4 compatible
[09:15] <antonius> it will not read my gentoo partition
[09:15] <dstrbdfrk1> my windows are maximizing too big for my screen can someone help please??
[09:16] <s3r3n1t7_> antonius, it does support EXT4, but i'm not sure if it's out of the box.
[09:16] <crushyy> gm|lap: anyway i can recover my files back? those are .frm files of my visual basic project which i stored there
[09:16] <kdomn> Can somebody help me or direct me to help for a parallel port?
[09:16] <bluejeans> manav, the the switches / toggles to be sure everything is activated
[09:16] <Salajadin> it is out of thebox  but
[09:17] <Mr_Kaizer> s3r3n1t7: 1st time: I activated the NVidia driver, tried to get the hddtemp thing to work, rebooted, installed compiz and messed around with that a little, installed Wine and Spotify. 2nd time: Activated the NVidia driver, ran update, rebooted, activated the newer NVidia driver, installed Compiz, installed Wine and Spotify, downloaded the restricted-contents packages. Rebooted twice to see if it would still boot, no problems.
[09:17] <Salajadin> it is not set default when partitioning
[09:17] <gm|lap> crushyy: it's VERY tricky to pull off, ESPECIALLY with a binary file like a .frm file
[09:17] <antonius> s3r3nlt7_ but i'm sure the new installer has an ext4 option..??hmm
[09:17] <gm|lap> the trick involves searching /dev/hda or /dev/sda or whatever the harddrive is
[09:17] <lirvan> hello
[09:17] <crushyy> gm|lap: .frm is not binary files, they suppose to be plain text (syntax infact)
 i just want to read/write to my ext4 partition
[09:19] <kdomn> Can somebody help me or direct me to help for a parallel port?
[09:19] <s3r3n1t7_> Mr_Kaizer, right. How did you install nvidia drivers? And what is spotify
[09:19] <s3r3n1t7_> antonius, i'm not sure. I've heard people say it does, but i can't say that for sure.
[09:19] <gm|lap> crushyy: what's your harddrive device called in linux?
[09:20] <antonius> dammit...so do i go around saying that jaunty can't read my ext4 partition lol j/k
[09:20] <gm|lap> actually...
[09:20] <gm|lap> stick a linux livecd in or something and boot off it
[09:20] <Mr_Kaizer> s3r3n1t7 : Did what Ubuntu told me to do, used the built-in function to activate them. Spotify is a music program, allows you stream music for free. Sorta looks like iTunes.
[09:21] <s3r3n1t7_> Mr_Kaizer, so far so good. Installed compiz? Does that imply it didn't come installed for you?
[09:21] <pragad7> how to know if the 3d box compiz is installed or even present in the system .
[09:21] <antonius> alright...so is everyone here confirming that jaunty is gonna be useless for me if all my data is on ext4?
[09:21] <gm|lap> then you do something like: grep -a -F -B 10 -A 10 "text to find" /dev/hda  (or whatever your hard disk device is called)
[09:22] <Mr_Kaizer> s3r3n1t7: Affermitive, I had to use the add/remove function to get all the fancy desktop stuff.
[09:22] <gm|lap> -B is numbers of lines before
[09:22] <gm|lap> -A is "  " after
[09:22] <linny> praga it is install if you have a vanilla ubuntu install you just need to configure it using compizconfig-settings-manager
[09:22] <gm|lap> it's the only known way to recover deleted files
[09:22] <pragad7> mr_kaizer pls tell me how to do the compiz thing
[09:22] <gm|lap> as ghetto as it is, it's worth a crack
[09:22] <linny> *installed]
[09:24] <s3r3n1t7_> Mr_Kaizer, that's odd. Alright, what i'd recommend in this case would be to create a second user and see if that user also has troubles logging in. If the second user can login just fine, it's a problem with your own user, probably with file permissions. If that user also can't login, it's a problem with a program doing something wrong. Is there any way for you to get access to the system?
[09:24] <kdomn> can anybody help me with a parallel port?
[09:24] <kdomn> please?
[09:24] <inasmu> antonius: I would wait a day or so and see if official documentation comes out about using ext4 and jaunty
[09:24] <gm|lap> hmm... i'm running a wireless connection (off an external stick) and am running on a battery... should i enable compiz? >:)
[09:25] <nazgul> Hi. After upgrading Intreprid->Jaunty I noticed that update-manager's notification icon never shows up, even if there are pending updates. I can see that update-notifier is running. Stopping and starting it manually does not make a difference. Is there some other piece missing?
[09:26] <inasmu> nazgul: I read somewhere that in jaunty, the icon only shows up for security updates, or once a week for regular updates.  hang on a second, and I'll find you a link
[09:26] <kdomn> or, i have a X.diff patch file, can somebody direct me to docs on using it to patch the kernel?
[09:26] <pragad7> just installed ubuntu . how do i know what programs i have . there dont seem to be many.  and the update says it has to update worth some 190 mb
[09:26] <Herr_Kaizer> s3r3n1t7: Mr Kaizer here, sorry, my Wifi connection crapped out on me.
[09:27] <s3r3n1t7> Herr_Kaizer, no problem. Did you read my last message?
[09:27] <Herr_Kaizer> No
[09:27] <s3r3n1t7> Herr_Kaizer,  that's odd. Alright, what i'd recommend in this case would be to create a second user and see if that user also has troubles logging in. If the second user can login just fine, it's a problem with your own user, probably with file permissions. If that user also can't login, it's a problem with a program doing something wrong. Is there any way for you to get access to the system?
[09:27] <pragad7> how come i have to update somuch 190 mb . i had downloaded the cd not lng ago just 1 week
[09:28] <Viper_Suicide> none of my hydrairc settings are saving
[09:28] <s3r3n1t7> Herr_Kaizer, it's coffee break here now for about 20 minutes. I'll be back after that.
[09:28] <Viper_Suicide> when i close hydra my onstartup disappear
[09:28] <Herr_Kaizer> s3r3n1t7: I'm at work now, using my work laptop, the Ubuntu PC is at home. I might get ahold of it later.
[09:29] <inasmu> nazgul: here it is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes#Change%20in%20notifications%20of%20available%20updates
[09:32] <inasmu> pragad7: you downloaded version 8.10, which was released about 6 months ago, version 9.04 comes out tomorrow, so when you installed the older version you then immediately installed a lot of updates that have come out since then
[09:32] <thahauss> I have two issues which I've googled for to no avail.  I'm using 'Rdesktop" to remote from ubuntu to xp.  I need a switch in the "rdesktop" command to not display the terminal.  Also when i connect, I can change the wallpaper and it'll be there only for that session, when i remote back in i only see a the color wallpaper i choose not the image.  any help greatly appreciated
[09:33] <titof> hello all !!! .... i'm fighting with bind, trying to define a forwarder inside a domain... i mean i have two servers , one master on foo.com and the other master on sub.foo.com.... i thought that all i have to do with bind9 for forwarding request sended to ns1.foo.com that want to match stuff inside sub.foo.com  was to define a forward type for the zone sub.foo.com on the named.conf of the master on foo.com .... but each time i request it , and eve
[09:33] <titof> n i give a forward only; rule it's still the ns1.foo.com that try to resolve it ... any idea ?
[09:35] <antonius602> did fresh intrepid install, straight to jaunty upgrade..and now hardware manager or whatever is not queing my ati drivers
[09:36] <nazgul> inasmu: thank you very much for pointing this out.
[09:36] <racecar56> O_O why isn't there 32bit server cd's availible for rerquest? all of my comps cant seem to burn cds....
[09:36] <inasmu> nazgul: you're welcome
[09:36] <racecar56> *request
[09:40] <antonius602> honestly guys, i love ubuntu...but it looks like the self created hype is becoming too much to back up....
[09:40] <antonius602> <punches self in face>
[09:41] <wgrant> antonius602: Pardon?
[09:42] <antonius602> wgrant i just think that moving from gentoo to debian would be an easy thing...after reading all these articles and press releases and such
[09:42] <inasmu> !topic
[09:42] <inasmu> !offtopic
[09:42] <wgrant> antonius602: Ubuntu isn't Debian...
[09:42] <inasmu> sorry, the second one
[09:42] <pragad7> how do i get the compiz 3d box
[09:43] <antonius602> ubuntu is supposed to be EASIER than debian
[09:43] <wgrant> antonius602: What are you having a problem with?
[09:43] <pragad7> i am beginning to have doubts about the ease of ubuntu
[09:43] <antonius602> idk i'm not trying to piss anyone off...
[09:43] <dstrbdfrk1> my windows are maximizing bigger than my screen can anyone help please
[09:43] <Ska_> Ubuntu ftw. <3
[09:43] <antonius602> well, i can't access my ext4 partition
[09:43] <racecar56> !libavcodec-unstripped-51
[09:43] <pragad7> yes click on the window again it will help i think
[09:44] <Ska_> Have you tried google, Anton?
[09:44] <pragad7> dstrbdfrk1 click on the window again
[09:44] <palmje> pragrad7: just install the compiz settings package from synaptic and use that to configure the cube
[09:44] <wgrant> antonius602: Ubuntu 8.10 only has Linux 2.6.27, so doesn't support ext4 properly. Ubuntu 9.04, which will be released tomorrow, does.
[09:44] <Ska_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6953812 for Ext4 partition, Anton.
 i upgraded
[09:44] <pragad7> where are the instructions for all this in hellp and support
[09:44] <antonius602> update-manager -d
[09:44] <Ska_> Google is your friend. :P
[09:45] <dstrbdfrk1> prgad7: ya it doesnt help the whole top bar is under my deskrba
[09:45] <antonius602> thx Ska_
[09:45] <racecar56> xvidcap crashes with "xtoffmpeg.c add_video_stream(): video codec not found", i knew this was fixed by installing libavcodec-unstripped-51 on intrepid but im using jaunty rc and it dosen't even let me install it
[09:45] <dstrbdfrk1> deskbar**
[09:45] <inasmu> dstrbdfrk1: a quick ubuntofurms search reveals: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=982133&highlight=windows+maximizing+top
[09:45] <Ska_> You're welcome.
[09:45] <wgrant> pragad7: You need to install CompizConfig Settings Manager using Add/Remove Applications, then you can enable the 'Desktop Cube' and 'Rotate Cube' plugins.
[09:45] <antonius602> we'll see
[09:45] <antonius602> lol
[09:45] <antonius602> still openeing ;)
[09:45] <Ska_> Anyone care to ping me and see If they get any results?
[09:46] <Ska_> Or not lol
[09:47] <pragad7> palmje seems it is already installed. but how do i configure it and what is the short cut key. and where are theinstructions for all this
[09:49] <antonius602> Ska_ seriously i just need to grub-install =P
[09:49] <antonius602> lol
[09:49] <pragad7> i find it in system>preferences>compizconfigsettingsmanager. but i dont understand the interface a little bit.
[09:49] <joe__> Hi! if I were to do a release upgrade tomorrow through a remote session through ssh would I bork the install if I closed the ssh session?
[09:49] <Ska_> OH you just need to GI?
[09:49] <Ska_> Why would you want to dual boot for? :P
[09:49] <racecar56> hey guess what... installing libavcodec-unstripped-52 works
[09:49] <myforwik> Does anyone know what time UTC that 9.4 is going to be final?
[09:50] <racecar56> so on jaunty install libavcodec-unstripped-52 to make xvidcap work
[09:50] <Mr_Kaizer> pragad7: Just find the Desktop Cube icon in the compiz manager, and click the icon
[09:50] <racecar56> gotta go
[09:50] <antonius602> i do want to dual boot, will grub-install recognize my partition, on another HD and automatically put it in menu.lst?
[09:50] <wgrant> pragad7: Yeah, it's a bit difficult, but very powerful. There is simple-ccsm, which is a bit less confusing.
[09:50] <wgrant> antonius602: Yes.
 the ext4 partiton that i can't even read through ubuntu right now?

[09:51] <ActionParsnip> antonius602: It's not hard to add an extra option in your grub config
[09:52] <wgrant> antonius602: I'm not sure about that .
 yeah...
[09:52] <antonius602> i know
[09:52] <antonius602> ok...
[09:52] <myforwik> Does anyone know at what local time ubuntu is released? Is it 00:00 GMT? UTC? USA time?
[09:52] <un_dave> hi all, i have a server system, which is running 7.10, and i want to update it to 8.04. What's the best way to do this?
[09:52] <alquh> hi am a bluddy beginner at ubuntu and have a question concerning 3d accelaration of my Ati grafik card. specification : ATI Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (rev64). my ubuntu 8.10 does not  seem to support its 3d accelaraion capability. Is there an alternative driver existing or do I have to setup the preinstalled ones in an alternative way?
[09:52] <pragad7> i just dont get it
[09:52] <wgrant> un_dave: Run 'do-release-upgrade'
[09:52] <un_dave> Should i let it update all of 7.10, then select the 8.04 update?
[09:53] <joe__> un_dave use "sudo do-release-upgrade" without quotes
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> !ati | alquh
[09:53] <joe__> woooo
[09:53] <antonius602> i know how to fix grub
[09:53] <un_dave> wgrant: wont that try get me to the latest version ?
[09:53] <Mr_Kaizer> sudo get-me-coffee
[09:53] <pragad7> how does this compiz work. why doesit have to be so difficult. this is outdoing microsoft
[09:53] <gm|lap> sudo make me a sandwich
[09:53] <joe__> yes but why wouldn't you want to get the latest version?
[09:53] <wgrant> un_dave: No - Ubuntu 7.10 is not an LTS release, so you can only upgrade to Ubuntu 8.04 from 7.10 directly.
[09:53] <antonius602> i just can't get ubuntu to read an ext4 partion...becuas
[09:53] <wgrant> joe__: Ubuntu 8.04 is an LTS release.
[09:54] <s3r3n1t7> !upgrade | un_dave
[09:54] <gm|lap> joe__: oddly enough it isn't that difficult once it's properly set up.
[09:54] <wgrant> pragad7: Compiz is very configurable, but CCSM exposes all of the settings. Try simple-ccsm.
[09:54] <gm|lap> or just use the main ccsm screen and tick the boxes you want.
[09:54] <myforwik> Anyone know when 9.4 is going to be released??
[09:55] <wgrant> myforwik: Some tiime tomorrow.
[09:55] <gm|lap> !jaunty
[09:55] <pragad7> i must be really stupid or this comopiz thing is really nokt user friendly
[09:55] <gm|lap> myforwik: that should at least give you SOME info
[09:55] <wgrant> pragad7: The advanced configuration tool is well known for being complicated - that's why we don't install it by default.
[09:56] <gm|lap> yecch only tomorrow
[09:56] <gm|lap> i better pick up another APC mag
[09:56] <gm|lap> they generally have copies of ubuntu on their dvds
[09:56] <traskbt> pragad7, compizconfig-settings-manager is what I use.
[09:57] <pragad7> the window keeps getting bigger than the screen and everytime i click one of the icons a completely irrelevant windowcomes and there is no help button anywhere
[09:57] <gm|lap> which is ccsm
[09:57] <DaDa|Urka> WHy is the package "php5-domxml" inactive?
[09:57] <DaDa|Urka> Isn't there any need of it?
[09:57] <gm|lap> trust me, ccsm is a lot simpler than running compiz with the plugins in the commandline
[09:58] <wgrant> gm|lap: I remember those days.... you had to get the order just right! And how good it was when the gconf backend got support for storing that info.
[09:58] <traskbt> pragad7, have tried/looked into simple-ccsm ?
[09:58] <pragad7> no traskbt
[09:58] <pragad7> i will now
[09:58] <traskbt> I, myself, haven't I just saw it. It might ease things up for you. Though I find CCSM to work fine for me.
[09:59] <wgrant> DaDa|Urka: I don't think we ever had php5-domxml.
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> DaDa|Urka: you should look at what requires it to see whats going on
[10:01] <Kai_wp> Hey everyone! I just installed the latest release candidate of Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope. I installed my video card drivers and Compiz Fusion. But now when I try to run "Compiz --replace" for the first time I get an extremely long error, but the main part is "
[10:01] <Kai_wp> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[10:01] <pragad7> i dont find simple ccsm in add/remove programs
[10:01] <Kai_wp> xset q doesn't reveal the location of the log file. Using fallback /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[10:01] <wgrant> Kai_wp: Neither of those look relevant.
[10:01] <traskbt> Kai_wp, I don't know your case, but when I upgraded it told me my video card didn't have drivers available in 9.04 (I use ATI Mobility Radeon)
[10:02] <traskbt> Kai_wp, though my Compiz still works fine.
[10:02] <Kai_wp> For me it won't run at all. I have a full pastebin of it here: http://pastebin.com/d62b45a16
[10:02] <Kai_wp> It works fine in Hardy Heron.
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Kai_wp: what video card?
[10:03] <traskbt> Kai_wp, did you get the same "Your hardware's drivers are not available in 9.04" as I did?
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Kai_wp: lspci | grep -i vga
[10:03] <Kai_wp> I have an "XFX Nvidia 8600 GT XXX".
[10:03] <wgrant> pragad7: How ironic - it doesn't seem to be in the simple package manager. Find the 'simple-ccsm' package in System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager instead.
[10:03] <wgrant> Kai_wp: Oh dear... that's not good.
[10:03] <Kai_wp> traskbt: Nope I don't think so
[10:04] <wgrant> Kai_wp: But maybe it's because you gave -replace, rather than --replace.
[10:04] <Bob_> sorry i am new to ubuntu was wondering what i type to get wine?...
[10:04] <wgrant> Kai_wp: It still shouldn't crash, but that might be doing it.
[10:04] <traskbt> Bob_, sudo apt-get install wine
[10:04] <gm|lap> Kai_wp: xgl isn't an issue... it looks like you may have a broken plugin
[10:04] <traskbt> Bob_, what do you need it for, if I may ask?
[10:04] <Bob_> world of warcraft =p
[10:04] <Bob_> counter strike source aswell
[10:05] <traskbt> Bob_, right-o. Make sure you disable Compiz (the visual effects) or it will probably run badly.
[10:05] <wgrant> Bob_: Application->Add/Remove. Make sure "All Open Source applications" is selected, not just Canonical-maintained ones, then search for Wine.
[10:05]  * wgrant -> dinner.
[10:05] <chalcedony> what's the best way to get ubuntu/kubuntu ? do you need a torrent downloader?
[10:05] <traskbt> chalcedony, you can download the .iso directly, or use a torrent downloader.
[10:05] <Bob_> ok
[10:05] <Kai_wp> wgrant: Here's using "--replace" (The terminal window's titlebar disappears after running this) http://pastebin.com/d4724254f
[10:05] <PerryArmstrong> though i enabled automatic login for my user my system does not login automatically after waking up from hibernation
[10:05] <koshar1> chalcedony the best way is to prolly get the RC and then do a DIFF
[10:06] <PerryArmstrong> though i enabled automatic login for my user my system does not login automatically after waking up from hibernation...can anyone help on this
[10:06] <Kai_wp> gm|lap: Should I reinstall Compiz Fusion then?
[10:06] <Bob_> traskbt how can i disable it ?
[10:06] <traskbt> Bob_, System>Preferences>Appearance then go to the Visual Effects tab and turn it off.
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Kai_wp: sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl
[10:07] <Bob_> right on thanks
[10:07] <gm|lap> Kai_wp: quite possibly
[10:07] <Kai_wp> ActionParsnip: I get "E: Couldn't find package xserver-xgl". :<
[10:07] <jrib> chalcedony: ubuntu.com "get ubuntu"
[10:07] <wgrant> Kai_wp: Compiz is installed by default now...
[10:07] <gm|lap> Kai_wp: seriously, don't bother with xgl
[10:07] <gm|lap> it's not needed
[10:07] <traskbt> Bob_, no problem, I used to play WoW (on Ubuntu) but it kept flickering until I turned Visual Effects off.
[10:07] <wgrant> Kai_wp: Xgl is very obsolete and no longer in existence.
[10:07] <antonius602> so nobody knows how to get jaunty to read a seperate ext4 partition
[10:07] <Bob_> right on
[10:07] <wgrant> antonius602: What is the problem you are having with it!? You've never actually said, as far as I can see.
[10:07] <PerryArmstrong> though i enabled automatic login for my user my system does not login automatically after waking up from hibernation...can anyone help on this
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> Kai_wp: if you run: gksudo nvidia-settings    what version of the driver are you running?
[10:08] <antonius602> mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[10:08] <gm|lap> if your xserver was too old, it would complain about there not being a "composite" extension
[10:08] <carmen> Hello people! i want know a thing... what kernel are you using? cause with updates now i have the 2.6.27-14... but i just saw on the internet that the last stable is the 2.6.28-8
[10:08] <Bob_> what do i need to install for this so i can open my external harddrive?..
[10:08] <Kai_wp> ActionParsnip: It says "NVIDIA Driver Version: 180.44"
[10:08] <wgrant> Kai_wp: Did the titlebars come back eventually?
[10:08] <antonius602> i cannot mount my ext4 partition!! that's my ONLY problem
[10:08] <wgrant> It looks like that worked.
[10:08] <traskbt> carmen, what version of Ubuntu are you using? 8.10?
[10:08] <Myrtti> carmen: Ubuntu doesn't ship the latest software by default and automatically
[10:08] <wgrant> antonius602: You gave it the wrong -t option.
[10:08] <antonius602> ^ in JAUNTY
[10:09] <Myrtti> !latest | carmen
[10:09] <Kai_wp> wgrant: All the other window have titlebars, but the terminal window where I ran "--replace" still doesn't have a titlebar.
[10:09] <wgrant> antonius602: It's not trying to mount it as ext4. Your mount commandline or fstab is wrong.
[10:09] <antonius602> oh it needs options?  why wouldn't it be detected by nautilus
[10:09] <PerryArmstrong> though i enabled automatic login for my user my system does not login automatically after waking up from hibernation...can anyone help on this
[10:09] <antonius602> it's not MINE
[10:09] <wgrant> antonius602: How are you trying to mount it?
[10:09] <antonius602> it's fresh ubuntu install
[10:09] <antonius602> lol
[10:09] <antonius602> simple mount /dev
[10:09] <antonius602> no options
[10:09] <wgrant> antonius602: Your fstab is wrong.
[10:10] <antonius602> well the hard knocks of upgrading i guess
[10:10] <wgrant> antonius602: You must have something about that device in fstab if you can mount with just one argument.
[10:10] <bibek> hey guys any recommendation for a calorie counting software for ubuntu
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Kai_wp: http://pastebin.com/m60106f2b
[10:11] <nordc> guys, i need help; trying to install a file-sharing  program pysoulseek which demands installing gtk+; i don't know what package should i try to download from the repositories - any help?
 well...i guess that answers all my questions..thx for ur time
[10:11] <wgrant> antonius602: Did you fix it?
[10:11] <wgrant> ActionParsnip: those shouldn't be necessary any more.
[10:11] <traskbt> bibek, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=748123
[10:11] <Kai_wp> ah! thanks
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> wgrant: if it makes it work, i aint arguing :)
[10:11] <bibek> thanks, traskbt
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> Kai_wp: if they gain you nothing after restarting X, delete them out
[10:12] <antonius602> wgrant: no but....it's cool.....u may be right,...there's probably more options involved w/ themount command....i just assumed, w/ all the talk...that nautilus would recognize it
[10:12] <Bob_> im having trouble getting into root i know my pass but its saying su: Authentication failure...
[10:12] <Myrtti> Bob_: use sudo
[10:12] <traskbt> Bob_, use sudo not su
[10:13] <kryptic> im having that also
[10:13] <Bob_> o i c
[10:13] <bredoto> hia
[10:13] <bredoto> hia
[10:13] <Kai_wp> ok , ActionParsnip
[10:13] <Bob_> so type what to get into root?
[10:13] <Bob_> just sudo?
[10:13] <traskbt> Bob_, sudo command.
[10:13] <ziroday> Bob_: prepend sudo to run a command as root. sudo -i to get a root shell
[10:13] <traskbt> Bob_, "sudo apt-get install wine" for instance.
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Bob_: sudo <command for command line based commands.  gksudo for gui based commands (like gedir)
[10:14] <kryptic> Bob: sudo su
[10:14] <kryptic> for a root shell
[10:14] <Bob_> k
[10:14] <traskbt> Poor guy got about 4 different answers, haha.
[10:14] <kryptic> lol
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Bob_: if you want a root terminal for a while: sudo -i
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> kryptic: sudo su is not advised
[10:15] <kryptic> oh :/
[10:15] <kryptic> it took my like 5 days to figure out gksudo so i could start gui apps from an openbox menu
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> kryptic: sudo -i (interactive) keeps the user as the user instead of transposing to being root, I think sudo su also needs the root account active which is not advised either
[10:16] <rascal999> i'd like to run windows inside linux, (maybe vm), what is the easiest way to do this?
[10:16] <kryptic> it doesnt need the root account active, but yes, i agree its not safe
[10:16] <Bob_> still cant mount the volume for my external >.<
[10:16] <traskbt> rascal999, Qemu is good, I've heard. I saw a guide on it, I'll look for the link.
[10:16] <kryptic> rascal999: virtualbox or vmware
[10:16] <kryptic> or Qemu
[10:16] <nettezzaumana> hi
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> kryptic: if you use sudo -i   all your defined variables in ~/.bashrc and such will be usable, in sudo su they are not. Also file permissions will not be ruined by root walking all over them
[10:16] <traskbt> rascal999, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[10:17] <nettezzaumana> howto list package dependencies only?
[10:17] <pragad7> what exactly do i have to do to get this comopiz working
[10:17] <rascal999> thankyou
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> Bob_: what device name it the external? what file system does it use
[10:17] <pragad7> i press alt +tab and there is no cube
[10:17] <pragad7> what do i have to press
[10:17] <nettezzaumana> apt-get --dry-run remove foo | perl -ne 'parse_from_that_wanted_packages()' ?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> pragad7: try ctrl+alt+left cursor
[10:18] <kryptic> Bob: try mount /dev/sda maybe?
[10:18] <kryptic> is it usb?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> pragad7: or hold alt+ctrl and click drag the cube round
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> kryptic: you cant mount disks, yu mount partitions
[10:18] <zetheroo> I found this website telling you how to change the root password without loging into the computer... I am wondering if its really possible as that would be a major security flaw
[10:18] <SlAiD> hello there. is there any graphic interface like winrar to rar and zip archives *BUT* add comments on the file as whell ?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> kryptic: /dev/sda1 is the first partition and is mountable, /dev/sda is the physical disk you can touch and hold
[10:19] <Bob_> ActionParsnip it was a windows one
[10:19] <Bob_> i believe
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> Bob_: ok: run: sudo fdisk -l
[10:19] <pragad7> may be i missed something in the beginning installation or something because ctrl alt left arrow and click nokt working
[10:19] <zetheroo> anyone?
[10:19] <zetheroo> here is the site
[10:19] <zetheroo> http://www.joetech.com/hack-a-password.php
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> Bob_: some of the output will identify the partition
[10:19] <Bob_>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[10:19] <Bob_> /dev/sdb1               1       10587    80037688+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[10:19] <Bob_> that
[10:20] <SlAiD> hello there. is there any graphic interface like winrar to rar and zip archives *BUT* add comments on the file as whell ?.
[10:20] <pragad7> slaid 7zip
[10:20] <pragad7> i think
[10:20] <Bob_> know what i need to do get it open?
[10:20] <pragad7> i never used it slaid
[10:21] <SlAiD> pragad7 did install that, but when I right click on a file I cant find it
[10:21] <SlAiD> like I find winrar on windows
[10:21] <kryptic> hBob: have you tried to mount it to a specific dir'
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> Bob_: ok cool
[10:21] <pragad7> ok i am noonest of the noob
[10:21] <pragad7> noobest of the noob
[10:21] <kryptic> pragad: lol
[10:21] <Bob_> ActionParsnip do you know what i need to to to be able to mount it?..
[10:21] <pragad7> hwy compiz not working????
[10:22] <Bob_> no i havent kryptic
[10:22] <Bob_> not shure how
[10:22] <naxa> hi! I've got this error in ubuntu while compiling a program: "'exit' was not declared in this scope". i use codeblocks and i used to write this program in windows in codeblocks and it worked. what's this?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> Bob_: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g; sudo mkdir /media/sdb1; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 -t ntfs-3g -o uid=1000
[10:22] <Bob_> new to this
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> Bob_: should sort you out :)
[10:22] <kryptic> sometimes its tricky and you have to do that specifically
[10:22] <kryptic> its just a shot
[10:22] <kryptic> wanna try that?
[10:22] <pragad7> i wonder is everyhtin so difficult with ubuntu or this is just becas we are so new
[10:23] <Smegzor> Is there some way to sort menu entries in Gnome like you can in Windows?
[10:23] <kryptic> pragad: it depends
[10:23] <phcoder1> zetheroo: it isn't since on secure systems you put a password on your BIOS and bootloader
[10:23] <phcoder1> Hello all. I installed jaunty and now backlight button and brightness applet behave randomly (e.g. two neighboring levels change between full and zero brightness and next one goes back to full brightness). Setting brightness through /proc/acpi works fine
[10:23] <Bob_> i typed that ActionParsnip still cant =p
[10:23] <kryptic> ubuntu is the easiest of the distros
[10:23] <kryptic> to me, anyway
[10:23] <pragad7> kryptic how exactly do i run the cube
[10:23] <Bob_> well more lick cope and paist
[10:23] <Bob_> copy*
[10:23] <Jojujo> hello everybody ! i'm having troubles configuring an iscsi driver... could someone please help?
[10:23] <randhol> I can connect with my wireless in xfce4/gnome, but when I try to follow how to do it manually with iwconfig it won't work. I can use iwlist ra0 scan to see all the available nets. I do sudo iwconfig ra0 essid "net-name", sudo iwconfig ra0 key open, sudo dhclient ra0, but the dhclient just asks and asks for an IP. what have I forgotten to do or is there some NetworkManager black magic?
[10:23] <kryptic> ctrl+alt+left click and move cursor
[10:24] <Bob_> should i try and reboot? ActionParsnip?
[10:24] <pragad7> anything before that i should do because i am really stupid
[10:24] <pragad7> i must have not even installed it
[10:24] <zetheroo> ﻿phcoder1: and I thought Linux was secure
[10:24] <phcoder1>  zetheroo: on secure systems you put a password on your BIOS and bootloader
[10:24] <pragad7> it is the law of the universe nothing is secure
[10:24] <kryptic> pragad: have you installed compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:25] <phcoder1> And without entering password you can't go to single mode
[10:25] <pragad7> ya kryptic i have that in the menu
[10:25] <qiaoqian> Why fetchmail -u USERNAME gmail.com ,then Password    cannot get mail from my gmail box?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> Bob_: no, this isnt windows
[10:25] <kryptic> have you enabled the cude?
[10:25] <Bob_> good point haha
[10:25] <kryptic> cube*
[10:25] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[10:25] <phcoder1> zetheroo: put password on your BIOS and grub
[10:25] <Bob_> still cannot mount the volume .
[10:26] <pragad7> how do i do that kryptic
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> Bob_ "You have moved the mouse, windows needs to reboot to apply this setting. Do you wish to rteboot now?"
[10:26] <pragad7> there is no enable button or similar
[10:26] <raddy> What is the timezone of ubuntu release?
[10:26] <Bob_> hahahahaha
[10:26] <badfish69> lol
[10:26] <zetheroo> ﻿phcoder1: why do they make it so easy to get into someones user account?
[10:26] <Bob_> i love it ahaha
[10:26] <Jojujo> i think i configured well my iSCSI client and server, but I don't see the remote device... does anybody know where it is supposed to appear?
[10:26] <Bob_> good stuff
[10:26] <kryptic> go into the settings manager, and there will be a little checkbox to enable desktop cube and rotate cube, check those
[10:26] <DASPRiD> ActionParsnip, lol
[10:26] <wgrant> zetheroo: If somebody has physical access to any computer, they can do whatever they want without knowing the username or password.
[10:27] <wgrant> zetheroo: It's the same with any operating system, unless you use full disk encryption.
[10:27] <phcoder1> zetheroo, wgrant: correct.
[10:27] <AwiLLeeX> .
[10:27] <raddy> What is the timezone of ubuntu release?
[10:27] <Jojujo> i think i am going to petit-suicide myself if nobody answers :'(
[10:27] <qiaoqian>  fetchmail -u ACCOUNT gmail.com  cannot work, WHY
[10:27] <wgrant> It is a little less obvious on Windows, because you need to poke in the registry, but it's still very possible and I've had to do it a few times.
[10:28] <Naib> hi  /bin/dd bs 1 if /proc/kmsg of /var/run/klogd/kmsg    what is that that is running on my ststem?
[10:28] <wgrant> qiaoqian: What does it say?
[10:28] <Naib> system*
[10:28] <zetheroo> ﻿phcoder1 wgrant: so what do "they" mean when its said about Linux that its a more secure OS than Windows? ... are they talking more about internet or networking threats?
[10:28] <Jojujo> does anyone has a rope
[10:28] <qiaoqian> wgrant: Just   timeout
[10:28] <kryptic> pragad7: hows it going
[10:28] <wgrant> zetheroo: Networking threats, or threats from applications running within the operating system.
[10:28] <badfish69> Jojujo: lolwut
[10:28] <wgrant> qiaoqian: Gmail only accepts secure connections - make sure you're telling fetchmail to use one.
[10:28] <kryptic> Jojujo: me...
[10:29] <randhol> I can connect with my wireless in xfce4/gnome, but when I try to follow how to do it manually with iwconfig it won't work. I can use iwlist ra0 scan to see all the available nets. I do sudo iwconfig ra0 essid "net-name", sudo iwconfig ra0 key open, sudo dhclient ra0, but the dhclient just asks and asks for an IP. what have I forgotten to do or is there some NetworkManager black magic?
[10:29] <wgrant> raddy: Undefined. But I expect it within a few hours either side of 24 hours from now.
[10:29] <Jojujo> woops
[10:29] <qiaoqian> wgrant: thanks,I will have a try
[10:29] <zetheroo> ﻿wgrant: ok so at the login/user front its sorta a no-go with security
[10:29] <koshar1> zetheroo there are 2 big holes missing in *ux compared to windows, running as administrator and IE
[10:29] <Jojujo> don't worry, haven't done it yet...
[10:29] <kryptic> randhol: are you doing all the commands
[10:29] <qiaoqian> wgrant: You mean ssl
[10:29] <Jojujo> still alive.
[10:29] <Jojujo> \o/
[10:29] <phcoder1> zetheroo: basically if someone can read your disk he can read all your data. That's why my linux is encrypted
[10:29] <Jojujo> stilllooking for help
[10:29] <randhol> kryptic: yes
[10:29] <wgrant> qiaoqian: Yes.
[10:29] <Jojujo> with iSCSI.
[10:30] <bartmon> koshar1: funny, i think those two things are actually advantages
[10:30] <wgrant> Naib: It's grabbing messages from the kernel and sending them to the logs.
[10:30] <randhol> kryptic: for an open net one should be able to run iwconfig ra0 essid name and the dhclient
[10:30] <zetheroo> ﻿phcoder1: how do you do that?
[10:30] <phcoder1> zetheroo: if you want to protect from a hacker with physical access use luks. It's not enabled by default because it's a performance hit
[10:30] <kryptic> well its very specific'
[10:30] <Naib> wgrant: mmm ok
[10:30] <kryptic> sometimes
[10:30] <koshar1> bartmon: i have seen a LOT of systems compromised by activeX
[10:30] <Jojujo> allright... farewell beautiful world. i'm gonna miss you.
[10:31] <kryptic> bye
[10:31] <kryptic> jk lol
[10:31] <Jojujo> _o7
[10:31] <zetheroo> ﻿phcoder1: luks .. is that a CMD app or a GUI?
[10:31] <wgrant> koshar1: I sometimes think that was the point of ActiveX.
[10:31] <randhol> kryptic: I'm moving my system from xfce4 to dwm on my asus as this is better, and I want a way to connect to wireless
[10:31] <wgrant> zetheroo: It's an option in the alternative installer.
[10:31] <Jojujo> _*7
[10:31] <Jojujo> X_X
[10:31] <kryptic> randhol: write a script
[10:31] <phcoder1> zetheroo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemLVMHowto
[10:31] <bartmon> koshar1: Well therefore not having IE is an advantage of *us as you call it
[10:31] <wgrant> randhol: Which encryption scheme is in use on your wireless network?
[10:31] <kryptic> or, if you want to consider it, run openbox
[10:32] <zetheroo> ﻿wgrant: oh ... so I have to fresh install??
[10:32] <koshar1> zetheroo dont use encypted disks unless you need to,
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> randhol: the xfce apps will still be installed if you havent removed them, execute their command to run them the same as you do in xfce
[10:32] <pragad7> everytim i try to check the box in compiz seetings managare another window appears instead of the box being checked
[10:32] <randhol> wgrant: I'm trying to access an open univeristy net now
[10:32] <bartmon> kryptic: I haven't used the terminal for protected networks in a while but shouldn't you run wpa_supplicant before requesting an IP with dhclient?
[10:32] <wgrant> zetheroo: Unless you want to get really complicated, yes. It has to move all of your data around a lot, which is hard.
[10:32] <wgrant> randhol: Hrmmm.
[10:32] <zetheroo> ﻿wgrant: I see
[10:32] <wgrant> randhol: Does iwconfig say 'unassociated', or '802.11something'?
[10:32] <randhol> ActionParsnip: yes, but I need a panel for the net applet
[10:32] <kryptic> bartmon: only if its a wpa encrypted i think
[10:32] <wgrant> randhol: Should be in the top left.
[10:33] <phcoder1> zetheroo: the file is old but still applies
[10:33] <wgrant> bartmon, kryptic: wpa_supplicant isn't required for unencrypted or WEP networks.
[10:33] <phcoder1> zetheroo: (the instruction link)
[10:33] <zetheroo> ﻿wgrant: so my filesystem atm is not encrypted ...
[10:33] <zetheroo> ﻿phcoder1: ok ... looking at it
[10:33] <bob_> ok i am back and still nothing >.<
[10:33] <kryptic> i had to connect to my wireless by cli when i was on slackware
[10:33] <wgrant> zetheroo: No. It's a big performance hit, because the CPU has to do a *lot* of work, and everything has to go through the CPU.
[10:33] <randhol> wgrant: no
[10:34] <kryptic> so i memorized the commands
[10:34] <pragad7> kryptic evertim i click to check the boxes in compiz seettings manager the window zooms or something instead of being checked
[10:34] <wgrant> randhol: What does it say?
[10:34] <bartmon> wgrant: I guess the name wpa_supplicant gives it away but IIRC you can configure WEP networks with it as well
[10:34] <bob_> the reason i want in the external so bad is theres like 20gigs of movies Wow and all my games on it
[10:34] <wgrant> bartmon: Oh, you can. You just don't need to.
[10:34] <kryptic> pragad7: wtf? hmm...
[10:34] <phcoder1> zetheroo: unless you suppose your hd can fall in wrong hands you don't need to encrypt. Encrypting will make your computer slower
[10:34] <kryptic> i dont know about that man
[10:35] <NIdYa> ml
[10:35] <kryptic> you just gotta check those boxes and disable whatever is contradictiing it
[10:35] <randhol> wgrant: ra RT2860 Wirelss... ESSID: "name-i-gave"  Nickname: "RT2860STA"
[10:35] <randhol> wgrant: etc
[10:35] <zetheroo> ﻿phcoder1: I see ... well I suppose I'll just wait on that then ...
[10:35] <phcoder1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemLVMHowto
[10:35] <randhol> wgrant: Link quality 82/100
[10:36] <wgrant> randhol: What does it say just before the ESSID?
[10:36] <bartmon> wgrant: Didn't know that. I guess not using any weak WEP networks makes someone ignorant on how to configure them minimally. :)
[10:36] <randhol> ra0 RT2860 Wireless  ESSSID
[10:36] <wgrant> randhol: Huh. It should normally give its association status there.
[10:36] <phcoder1> zetheroo: if you want to protect against someone able to touch your computer but no knowledge how to open it, make your BIOS always boot from HD, put password on it and put password on grub
[10:36] <wgrant> phcoder1: That's no good. BIOS passwords are easily bypassed.
[10:37] <phcoder1>  I installed jaunty and now backlight button and brightness applet behave randomly (e.g. two neighboring levels change between full and zero brightness and next one goes back to full brightness). Setting brightness through /proc/acpi works fine
[10:37] <kryptic> randhol: iwconfig ra0 essid {name}
[10:37] <wgrant> bartmon: It's goodd to not know that :P
[10:37] <kryptic> randhol: dhcpcd
[10:37] <randhol> wgrant: do i need to do anything with iwpriv? iwconfig says Mode is managed
[10:37] <cousin_luigi> hi
[10:37] <wgrant> randhol: That mode is fine. you probably don't need to touch iwpriv.
[10:37] <gangil1> hi , can anyone help me with setting up a local repo on my ubuntu 8.10 system....:)
[10:37] <randhol> kryptic: don't have dhcpcd
[10:37] <phcoder1> wgrant: not without opening the case
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> wgrant: have your hard drive in a carridge caddy and carry it around wherever you go
[10:37] <kryptic> randol: apt-get?
[10:37] <randhol> kryptic: do I need it when nm-applet doesn't?
[10:37]  * cousin_luigi is looking for a "vista desktop clock lookalike"
[10:38] <kryptic> not sure
[10:38] <randhol> wgrant: ok, but is thhere some nm magic I'm missing?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> cousin_luigi: there are desklets in gnome and widets in kde
[10:38] <wgrant> randhol: I don't know, sorry.
[10:38] <qiaoqian> wgrant: fetchmail --ssl gmail.com -u qiaoqian      @:@ STILL failed: time out.
[10:38] <gangil1> is this the right channel to ask my question...?:-/
[10:38] <wgrant> gangil1: Yes.
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> !ask | gangil1
[10:39] <wgrant> gangil1: If it's about Ubuntu, of course.
[10:39] <gangil1>  hi , can anyone help me with setting up a local repo on my ubuntu 8.10 system....:)
[10:39] <koshar1> phcoder1 even then you can shuffle the hdds and boot of another in the same position unless you use uuid,
[10:39] <wgrant> qiaoqian: I don't use Gmail, but maybe if you search around on the Internet you'll find somebody who's done it before..
[10:39] <kryptic> gangil1: google mate
[10:39] <kryptic> local repo?
[10:39] <qiaoqian> wgrant: Have you ever tried fetchmail?
[10:39] <wgrant> gangil1: What exactly do you want to do, and why?
[10:39] <SlAiD> hey one more question. my numeric keypad isnt typing numbers. I think I need to edit a file and do something, but I dont know what exacly.
[10:40] <gangil1> local repository using svn
[10:40] <randhol> wgrant: iwconfig gives correct access point
[10:40] <wgrant> qiaoqian: I have it running on my server fetching several ISP mailboxes, yes.
[10:40] <phcoder1> koshar1: BIOS+boot passwords are against someone unable to open the case as I clearly said
[10:40] <cousin_luigi> ActionParsnip: thanks, I'll have a look
[10:40] <gangil1> i am working on a OSS project , so i just needed to have a local repository
[10:40] <qiaoqian> wgrant: Then what's the command like?
[10:40] <wgrant> phcoder1: Or somebody knowing a BIOS password that works on all instances of that BIOS. Award BIOS has a very well known one that always works, for example.
[10:41] <phcoder1> koshar1: And UUID are actually wrong on a secure system because it's easy to create a USB stick with given UUID and the system will boot from it
[10:41] <wgrant> qiaoqian: I actually use it with just a fetchmailrc.
[10:41] <koshar1> phcoder1 you said no knowledge on how to open it, most people i know who can swap a sata cable can open a case
[10:42] <SlAiD> my numeric keypad isnt typing numbers. I think I need to edit a file and do something, but I dont know what exacly.
[10:42] <wgrant> gangil1: You might want to look at a more modern alternative than Subversion (such as Bazaar, Git or Mercurial), but you can use 'svnadmin' to create a local Subversion repository.
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> SlAiD: press numlock key?
[10:42] <kryptic> lol
[10:42] <SlAiD> hahaha, too obvious.
[10:42] <qiaoqian> Oh, I can send a  mail to gmail with: mail -s "tile" qiaoqian@gmail.com < fsd.txt
[10:42] <SlAiD> no, that's noit it,.
[10:42] <steveccc> can anyone tell me what the best vm is for ubuntu - i like vmware but not sure how quick it is - i am looking ideally for a vm that is as simple to use as vmware but as fast and efficient as possible
[10:42] <jrib> SlAiD: ctrl-shift-numlock?
[10:43] <koshar1> SlAiD you can install numlockx to make numbers the default
[10:43] <qiaoqian> wgrant: but I don't know how to receive one
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> SlAiD: does xev react when you press the keys?
[10:43] <bassliner> !info irssi
[10:43] <gangil1> wgrant: umm...thanks :)
[10:43] <phcoder1> koshar1: you have to decide yourself which threats you consider.
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> SlAiD: the simplest answers usually work the best
[10:43] <koshar1> phcoder1 agreed
[10:43] <phcoder1> wgrant: old engineer passwords for award don't work anymore
[10:44] <wgrant> phcoder1: I was able to use a usual one on a machine just a couple of years old.
[10:45] <phcoder1> wgrant: Ok. Well you can patch this thing out. On internet there is a manual how to change award engineer password. But BIOS is proprietary so I don't trust it. And you can use coreboot.
[10:45] <SlAiD> ActionParsnip xev?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> phcoder1: plus you can wipe the cmospassword by pulling the plug from the system and removing the battery for 30 mins or so
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> SlAiD: its a terminal command that reacts to system inputs
[10:45] <wgrant> ActionParsnip: Or just use the reset jumper, and be done in a couple of seconds.
[10:45] <happyhessian> i have an mplayer compilation question--if i get mplayer from svn and manually put windows codecs into the correct directory before compilation, can mplayer use them?
[10:46] <wgrant> happyhessian: I don't believe you have to have them there before compilation. It will load them at any time later.
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> wgrant: not if the jumper is in a bad place, like it is on my asus AH1-p2 pundit
[10:46] <rumpel> @happy depends, if compilation checks available "plugins"...
[10:46] <jrib> happyhessian: doesn't really matter when you put the codecs where they need to be as long as you have them where they need to be
[10:46] <SlAiD> jrib didnt work
[10:46] <SlAiD> koshar1 how?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> wgrant: either way, no system is totally secure for booting so a line must be drawn somewhere
[10:46] <SlAiD> ActionParsnip er... dont know what you're talking about. can you be a bit more specific? I'm just using ubuntu for two days
[10:46] <jrib> SlAiD: your numlock light is on?  What exactly does the numpad do now?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> wgrant: and tinfoil hats need detroying
[10:46] <phcoder1> ActionParnship: I said it myself: bios+boot pwd is no good if attacker can open the case. On at least some boards cmos is actually a flash now so removing battery won't help
[10:46] <wgrant> ActionParsnip: Except for disk encryption, there's nothing you can do.
[10:46] <happyhessian> but the *.dll files will work fine?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> SlAiD: ok, run terminal in your preffered way
[10:47] <wgrant> happyhessian: Yes.
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> !terminal | SlAiD
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> SlAiD: in the terminal, tpe the wor   xev   and press enter
[10:47] <qiaoqian> Do anyone use command MAIL to send and receive email
[10:47] <jrib> qiaoqian: I'm sure some do, just ask your real question to the channel
[10:47] <happyhessian> specifically, i'm trying to get vp7 to work--i have w64codecs from medibuntu but mplayer says that vp7 needs to be enabled at compile time
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> SlAiD: now, when you press buttons you will see the system react, try typing your name
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> SlAiD: once you have a feel for it, try other keys you suspect dont work
[10:48] <happyhessian> i don't know if vp7 is in w64codecs, mplayer says they support it via som vp7vfa.dll codec or something like that
[10:48] <SlAiD> oh, god it
[10:48] <phcoder1> wgrant: even the encryption is no good if you can't ensure the integrity of booter and kernel.
[10:48] <SlAiD> all numbers dont work
[10:48] <jrib> happyhessian: why not check?
[10:48] <SlAiD> I mean all :p
[10:48] <qiaoqian> jrib: I have hacked for a long time, but I still didn't know how to ?
[10:48] <SlAiD> just un the numpad at the right side of course
[10:48] <rumpel> @ph or random-number-generator like in windows...
[10:48] <SlAiD> the other ones work
[10:48] <Kai_wp> ActionParsnip: Alright I'm trying adding those lines to my xorg.conf file now. Should I do a full reboot after or?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> SlAiD: ok then your keyboard setting needs modifying to get the keys working
[10:49] <SlAiD> :s
[10:49] <SlAiD> how can I do that?
[10:49] <rumpel> @kai restarting x-server should be sufficient
[10:49] <wgrant> phcoder1: Right, but even if you can then you can't ensure integrity of the BIOS. Encryption is only good to stop people from getting at your data immediately.
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Kai_wp: no, simply save the file, close the editor then hit ctrl+alt+backspace once it is safe to log you out
[10:49] <SlAiD> I read the xorg.conf yestereday and opened it, but I didnt get any idea on how to edit
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> !keyboard | SlAiD
[10:49] <SlAiD> ok :D
[10:50] <phcoder1> wgrant: coreboot and have your flashrom always with you on your keyring. Or cut write wire to flash and put concrete around your flash
[10:50] <wgrant> ActionParsnip: You should stop recommending Ctrl+Alt+Backspace now - it's both not a good way to log out, and not possible in Ubuntu 9.04.
[10:51] <wgrant> phcoder1: Then I will stick some monitoring hardware in your PS/2 or USB.
[10:51] <Kai_wp> ActionParsnip: Um, as bizarre as it is, CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE does absolutely nothing. O_o
[10:51] <DASPRiD> Kai_wp, 9.04?
[10:51] <DASPRiD> it was disabled there by default
[10:51] <rumpel> why?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> wgrant: 9.04 isnt officially released yet so chat for it is in 9.04. I can safetly assume hardy or intrepid in here
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> Kai_wp: are you running jaunty?
[10:51] <wgrant> ActionParsnip: It will be released in 24 hours. Just a warning.
[10:51] <DASPRiD> Rumpa_, no idea, but you can enable it
[10:52] <Kai_wp> ActionParsnip: Ya, the latest release candidate.
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> wgrant: thats a whole day so I'm fine but i get your point, if you get mine?
[10:52] <wgrant> rumpel: Because people hit it by accident, which is really destructive, and there are very few usecases for it.
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Kai_wp: then reboot
[10:52] <wgrant> ActionParsnip: I do.
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> wgrant: cool
[10:52] <rumpel> @wgrant k...
[10:52] <phcoder1> wgrant: power analysis? this is good. Basically unless you trust your hardware you can't have security
[10:52] <Kai_wp> ActionParsnip: Ok
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Kai_wp: you can re-enable ctrl+alt+ackspace
[10:52] <wgrant> phcoder1: And you cannot trust your hardware once an intruder has been at it. So we're stuffed!
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> i dont get why its disabled
[10:52] <wgrant> ActionParsnip: Why would it be enabled? It's very dangerous, and not useful.
[10:53] <rumpel> yeah.. i sometimes accidently pressed this combi... :/
[10:53] <Kai_wp> I've used it alot on my 8.04 and 8.10 intalls.
[10:53] <Kai_wp> * installs
[10:53] <SlAiD> I change the laguage to pt but I still can't get it working ActionParsnip. maybe I need a reboot?
[10:53] <stevem> These days... can Ubuntu play things like mp3 and xvid out of the box?
[10:53]  * SlAiD windows user talking
[10:53] <SlAiD> :-P
[10:53] <wgrant> rumpel: So do I, particularly when switching between desktops in compiz, and hitting backspace in a terminal. Sometimes I'll just type both too quickly, and my screen goes black...
[10:53] <phcoder1> wgrant: Yes. Unless you compute RSA+AES+Whirlpool in your head...
[10:54] <rumpel> @stevem dont think so...
[10:54] <rumpel> @stevem try vlc...
[10:54] <wgrant> stevem: No - but they are easily installable. There are patents that prevent us from legally installing that support by default. When you first try to play either of them, it will give you the option to install codecs.
[10:54] <wgrant> phcoder1: In which case you don't need a computer :)
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> wgrant: well its been around for such a long time and its been fine
[10:54] <Kai_wp> Will this Compiz Fusion error still happen in the final release?
[10:54] <stevem> wgrant, yes I understand the patent issue... but I've just installed 8.10 (fresh install) to find mp3 and xvid playback working
[10:55] <stevem> wgrant, and it didn't install them automatically
[10:55] <ubunewbie> greetings all, i need help changing permission on external hdd.
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> SlAiD: i'd research into the quirks your keyboard has with linux, maybe it needs extra options
[10:55] <rumpel> @stevem depends on the codecs used
[10:55] <bartmon> SlAiD: Reboot's are very rarely needed. Just try logging out and in again.
[10:55] <stevem> rumpel, mp3 and xvid
[10:55] <SlAiD> I try three diferent ones
[10:55] <SlAiD> -.-
[10:55] <wgrant> stevem: They did not both work without you installing extra applications, I can assure you.
[10:55] <rumpel> @stevem mp3 and xvid are just containers for different codecs
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> SlAiD: well then they arent the right ones
[10:55] <Kai_wp> ActionParsnip: I'll have to try the changes I made to the xorg.conf file out tommorow. XD Thanks for the help! :D
[10:56] <SlAiD> LOL
[10:56] <Kai_wp> I've gotta go, bye! :D
[10:56] <wgrant> ActionParsnip: No, it hasn't. Lots of people have lost lots of work.
[10:56] <SlAiD> ok, let me logout and logon again.
[10:56] <SlAiD> hold
[10:56] <wgrant> rumpel: No, they are not container formats.
[10:56] <stevem> rumpel, no they're audio and video codecs... ogg and avi are examples of containers
[10:56] <rumpel> @wgrant wild guess, i confess ^^
[10:56] <stevem> wgrant, and the same would be true for debian?
[10:56] <wgrant> stevem: Except it's much harder to install them on there, yes.
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> wgrant: its a bit of a daft thing to accidently press, ctrl+shift I'd understand (slip of a finger) but that seems a bit ridiculous to me
[10:57] <stevem> wgrant, it's the same way actually
[10:57] <Haggis-AAO> dontzap --disable enables Ctrl Alt Backspace for those that want it
[10:57] <Smegzor> ok I give up.  How do I sort menu entries in Gnome?  I know I can move items up or down, but I have hundreds of unsorted menu entries.  How do I sort entire menu trees?
[10:57] <wgrant> ActionParsnip: Switching desktops gets you two thirds of the way there, often.
[10:57] <wgrant> ActionParsnip: It's like Windows 9x's Ctrl+Alt+Delete, except one press rather than two. It's a really bad idea.
[10:57] <wgrant> ActionParsnip: Believe be, this has been argued to death in several fora.
[10:57] <pragad7> my windows are maximizing bigger than my screen can anyone help please
[10:58] <rumpel> @smegzor which menues?
[10:58] <rumpel> @pragad7 is your screen very small?
[10:58] <pragad7> 15 inch crt
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> wgrant: gotcha
[10:59] <Mr_Kaizer> s3r3n1t7: You around?
[10:59] <Smegzor> really its just the Games menu.  The rest look ok, but Games is not well sorted.
[10:59] <rumpel> @pragad well... you can move windows with pressing ALT and double-click...
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> wgrant: thing is, its needed if a game takes yuor display outside the visible range and you dont have an extra system to initiate a reboot.
[10:59] <s3r3n1t7> Mr_Kaizer, I am, although not for long. Lunch is served in 10 minutes.
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> wgrant: but i see your point
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> wgrant: even if i disagree
[10:59] <wgrant> ActionParsnip: There is another good combination to do that, using magic-sysrq.
[11:00] <Mr_Kaizer> s3r3n1t7: How do I make a new user?
[11:00] <pragad7> rumpel: it is happening in this way only in compiz settings manager any idea
[11:00] <rumpel>  @pragad dont use compiz... sorry
[11:00] <wgrant> Mr_Kaizer: System->Administration->Users and Groups
[11:01] <s3r3n1t7> Mr_Kaizer, before you login, you press ctrl + alt + f2. This will give you a terminal screen. This is where you should be able to login without troubles. While there, type this without the arrows ==> sudo adduser theusername <== to add the new user.
[11:01] <pragad7> @rumpel so is everyone having problem with compiz
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> wgrant: so they disabled ctrl+alt=backspace (3 keys) but allow magic+sysrq (2 keys)
[11:01] <Mr_Kaizer> s3r3n1t7: Thanks, will try
[11:01] <s3r3n1t7> Mr_Kaizer, good luck!`
[11:01] <rumpel> @pragad no... i just dont like too much eyecandy
[11:01] <wgrant> ActionParsnip: Er, it's three keys that I won't recite here. And SysRq isn't used for *anything* else.
[11:02] <kt> Anyone a DNS pro? number dns is a bit dead atm..
[11:02] <ai3gtmc> hi
[11:02] <ai3gtmc> I need help
[11:02] <ai3gtmc> on vbox.. but #vbox is dead
[11:02] <Smegzor> pragad7: 9.04 broke my compiz.  I mostly repaired it by reinstalling Python, but its not fully fixed.
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> kt: wassup
[11:02] <pragad7> @rumpel yes i can understand
[11:03] <kt> ActionParsnip: I just got a new IP address issued to my box
[11:03] <Nhawdge> Quick question all, I've got a headless server with SSH access, I'm sick of the font on the server, anyway I can change it so it stays changed regardless of where I connect from?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> kt: ok
[11:03] <kt> and I need www.example.com to resolve to one IP
[11:03] <wgrant> Nhawdge: The font depends on your terminal. SSH just sends characters.
[11:03] <kt> and I need all-other-subdomains.example.com to resolve to another IP
[11:03] <ai3gtmc> my XP guest crashes and I see this on log p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }   ERROR [COM]: aRC=VBOX_E_INVALID_VM_STATE (0x80bb0002) aIID={e3c6d4a1-a935-47ca-b16d-f9e9c496e53e} aComponent={Console} aText={Invalid machine state: 1)} aWarning=false, preserve=false
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> kt: have you tried: sudo /etc/init.t/networking restart
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> kt: you could add an entry in /etc/hosts
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> kt: how many systems are we talking?
[11:04] <kt> i have records like:
[11:04] <pragad7> @smegzor so have you ever experienced this . when tryin to check the boxes in compiz settings manager tthe window is either zooming or a new window is appearing in the place that has a  back button.
[11:04] <cousin_luigi> kt: what does "dig +short www.example.com" return?
[11:04] <Nhawdge> wgrant: so it will change based on where I connect from's terminal?
[11:04] <wgrant> Nhawdge: Yes.
[11:04] <Nhawdge> wgrant: Thanks!
[11:05] <wgrant> Nhawdge: No problem.
[11:05] <kt> ActionParsnip: 2 IPs mapped to a single domain; infinitely many subdomains on IP[0], only primary service (i.e. domain.com/www.domain.com) on IP[1]
[11:06] <Mr_Kaizer> s3r3n1t7: The new user fails as well, same result.
[11:06] <Smegzor> pragad7: My problem was that ccsm would not launch and running it from console revealed a python traceback error.  I followed a guide that had me delete a few python files and reinstall python.  That fixed it.
[11:06] <kt> What combo of A/CNAME records do I need to add?
[11:06] <kt> ActionParsnip: i have run that command, yes
[11:06] <s3r3n1t7> Mr_Kaizer, i'd suggest to check if your disk isn't full. I'm afraid i don't have time right now to help you further, due to lunch.
[11:06] <Smegzor> pragad7: I've not had your problem happen to me.
[11:07] <wgrant> Mr_Kaizer: What's the error message?
[11:08] <ubunewbie> hi everyone, can anyone help me unlock the permissions for my external hdd?
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> kt: you will need to either define the dns server as different for one half of your systems and add a different ip resolution on a different dns for the others
[11:08] <Smegzor> pragad7: is that happening to you while you have compiz enabled?  I'd guess its a configuration problem in ccsm.  Maybe completely removing ccsm and reinstalling/re-setting up would cure it?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> kt: if you use say 10 systems i would edit /etc/hosts and add the resolution manually there
[11:09] <Smegzor> pragad7: It might behave itself while compiz is not enabled.
[11:10] <kt> ActionParsnip: I create DNS records on-the-fly for one of the IPs
[11:10] <dstrbdfrk1> ive searched the internet over and i cant figure out how to make my windows stop maximizing bogger than my screen
[11:10] <dstrbdfrk1> bigger@
[11:10] <metus> hi
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> kt: if its for a single PC i would DEFINATELY use hosts file
[11:11] <metus> i tried to install Xubuntu 8.10 using the startup usb tool but GRUB doesn't load
[11:11] <metus> on to my 2GB flash drive
[11:11] <kt> Cool
[11:14] <marcel> i want to view the http request i am making, can i use a packet sniffer and which one?
[11:14] <r3c0n> wireshark
[11:14] <r3c0n> best around
[11:14] <slap_stick> hmm what sources to other people use? i am using gb.archive.ubuntu.com but it's very slow it drops down to 6kb/s at some ponits then goes right back up again it's not my network connection as if i run a wget to the iso's of ubuntu they are steady at 500kb/s
[11:14] <marcel> wireshack?
[11:14] <wlodi> marcel: wireshark is a nice one
[11:15] <cousin_luigi> slap_stick: you can test for the best server
[11:15] <marcel> thanks guys, i'll check it out
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> !best | r3c0n
[11:15] <slap_stick> cousin_luigi: how can you do that?
[11:15] <cousin_luigi> slap_stick: system/administration/software sources
[11:16] <slap_stick> i am not using kde or gnome
[11:16] <ai3gtmc> does songbird support iphone
[11:16] <ai3gtmc> ?
[11:16] <cousin_luigi> slap_stick: oh...then I'm not sure
[11:16] <slap_stick> is it within update-manager ?
[11:17] <wgrant> slap_stick: software-properties-gtk, IIRC.
[11:17] <kt> ActionParsnip: Adding the IP -> hostname -> alias relationship and restarting didn't help a whole lot (yes, i sudo-ed the init.d/networking restart), I'm reading into it now but do you have any immediate suggestions?
[11:17] <qiaoqian> !mail
[11:17] <slap_stick> wgrant: thanks
[11:18] <Nhawdge> anyway to list all currently used variables/aliases?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> kt: gksudo gedit /etc/hosts
[11:18] <qiaoqian> !next
[11:18] <qiaoqian> !time
[11:18] <wgrant> Nhawdge: In what?
[11:18] <Nhawdge> wgrant: for bash
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> kt: add a line like:  80.77.43.1      fileserver
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> kt: or whatever the hostname is
[11:19] <wgrant> Nhawdge: 'env' will list the environment variable.
[11:19] <r3c0n> ActionParsnip: i do consider wireshark to be the "best" sniffer due to the plethora of options and control that it offers
[11:19] <wgrant> +s
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> kt: this will resolve the name to that IP locally and bypass any DNS
[11:19] <wgrant> 'alias' will list the aliases.
[11:19] <r3c0n> along with its support for a wide variety of protocols
[11:19] <r3c0n> ;)
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> r3c0n: others might not
[11:19] <frozendecay> hey all, i've got a little question.. yesterday when i was on school i installed a windowmanager on ubuntu, and it was like pretty nice and fast... but now i want to install it here at home, and i forgot the name of it. so i did a little research on google but i can't seem to find it. the logo was white and it looked a little bit like the iceWM logo but it was smaller (i already tried iceWM and it wasn't that windowmanager). Oh and it looked a bit li
[11:19] <frozendecay> ke the windows GUI
[11:19] <wgrant> r3c0n: And similar support for security vulnerabilities :(
[11:19] <r3c0n> ActionParsnip: THIS IS SPARTAAAA!
[11:20] <frozendecay> does somebody know what WM it was?
[11:20] <wgrant> frozendecay: fvwm. maybe? I've seen that look somewhat like Windows.
[11:20] <Nhawdge> wgrant: Perfect but env isn't terribly helpful for $variables
[11:20] <jrib> frozendecay: openbox?
[11:20] <wgrant> Nhawdge: Ah, if they're not exported, true...
[11:22] <frozendecay> nope tried both of the WM's.. it had 4 letters thats all i know (the name looked so far i know a little bit like FVWM.. but it wasn't that)
[11:22] <Nhawdge> wgrant: gotcha, I just don't wanna accidently overwrite stuff like $HOME
[11:22] <kt> ActionParsnip: ah, it is resolving properly just an apache virtualhost config issue
[11:22] <kt> ActionParsnip: ty =)
[11:22] <VanRoy> yo
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> np :D
[11:23] <traskbt> frozendecay, FVWM has a FVWM '95 thing, which is a knock-off of Windows 95/98 look.
[11:23] <traskbt> LXDE is probably what you're looking for.
[11:23] <traskbt> I'm almost sure of it.
[11:24] <frozendecay> LXDE THAT WAS IT
[11:24] <frozendecay> THANKS
[11:24] <traskbt> No problem, and no need for caps :P
[11:24] <randhol> wgrant: I noticed one thing and that is tthat iwconfig is not setting essid after all. seems nm-applet had done it.
[11:24] <Nhawdge> wgrant: if I use export <variable>=<value> for a syntax will I need to add it to ~/.bashrc for it to be permanant?
[11:25] <wgrant> Nhawdge: Yes.
[11:25] <frozendecay> sorry, caps.. anoying keyboard over here >.<
[11:25] <Nhawdge> wgrant: Thanks a bunch, I'll be back soon
[11:25] <mackk431> who is familiar with dmesg or ksystemlog?
[11:25] <wgrant> !ask | mackk431
[11:25] <traskbt> mackk431, just ask your question, please.
[11:26] <r3c0n> lulz i couldnt agree more wgrant
[11:26] <r3c0n> its like saying: who's not a retard here?
[11:27] <pragad> wow i blew my ubuntu os
[11:27] <r3c0n> your ubuntu has a penis?
[11:27] <mackk431> in ksystemlog i have a dmesg generated log what says "2009-04-21 04:16:38	UDP	short packet: From xx.xxx.xx.xxx:xxxxx x/xx to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:xxx" what does it mean. the x represent numbers i deleted.
[11:27] <pragad> wow i blow my bubntu os
[11:27] <Frantic> guys, any way to turn on word wrap in less?
[11:28] <r3c0n> its telling u someone from specific IP addresssent something to another IP address
[11:28] <mackk431> i have like 6 messages of this kind with different ips
[11:28] <Frantic> I have a file with looooong lines (2GB), searching for a value, want to see its context, tried / in less but it takes me to the beginning of the line and I have no idea where the occurance is in the huge line
[11:28] <r3c0n> does it show a port number next to the IP?
[11:28] <r3c0n> like x.x.x.x:xxxx ?
[11:28] <pragad> i just pressed windows key and 3 and all the clours on the screen have scrambled and tried rebboting still problem continues
[11:28] <r3c0n> the :xxxx represents a different non-dotted number
[11:28] <r3c0n> sounds familiar, mackk431?
[11:29] <mackk431> ok thats obvious r3c0n but why is it logged
[11:29] <wgrant> pragad: Does it still happen before Ubuntu starts? At the boot menu? In the BIOS?
[11:29] <r3c0n> well figure out what application is generated it
[11:29] <r3c0n> generating it
[11:29] <wgrant> mackk431: Because the packet seems to be malformed. It's good to log that sort of thing, just in case.
[11:29] <r3c0n> and control its logging mechanisms
[11:29] <r3c0n> dur
[11:29] <mackk431> ah ok
[11:29] <pragad> no when ubuntu starts it is ok for few secs and then it all goe sblack and scrambled with different coors
[11:30] <mackk431> so it logs internet traffic with mangled packets?
[11:30] <slap_stick> man this can't be right, upates (1 day 18 hours 11 minutes)
[11:30] <slap_stick> updates*
[11:30] <mackk431> thanks for help that explains a bit
[11:31] <pragad> @wgrant my windows is working all right. dual boot u know . but ubuntu is scrambled
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> slap_stick: depends how busy the server is and if your connection is heavily contended, how many users are using that
[11:32] <slap_stick> ActionParsnip i can download fro other sources i.e. like if i go to centos and download the ISO from there i get 500kb/s
[11:32] <slap_stick> same as other places
[11:33] <wgrant> slap_stick: Which mirror are you using? Where are you?
[11:33] <pragad> so anyone any idea. this is scary
[11:33] <bassliner> !info flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> slap_stick: maybe the server you are getting the updates from is struggling
[11:33] <slap_stick> it's using archive.ubuntu.com
[11:33] <slap_stick> if i change it to gb.archive.ubuntu.com it's the same rediculous speed
[11:33] <wlodi> pragad: did u install the latest nvidia driver maybe?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> slap_stick: you could reboot your router so you know that isnt the issue
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> slap_stick: maybe your isp is doing stuff
[11:34] <slap_stick> hmm
[11:34] <wgrant> slap_stick: Where are you?
[11:34] <slap_stick> uk
[11:34] <slap_stick> london
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> slap_stick: takes 2 seconds to do
[11:34] <pragad> no installation prior to the incident actually i was chatting with you guys as pragad7
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> slap_stick: i'm uk too, leeds w. yorks
[11:34] <wgrant> slap_stick: OK, both of those are right in London... hmmm.
[11:36] <pragad> if someone knows something  about why pressing random keys can kill the os ubuntu pls respond
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> slap_stick: virgin media host a repo too ;)
[11:37] <wgrant> pragad: I suspect it was unrelated.
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> slap_stick: as well as gentoo stage files and emerge images
[11:37] <slap_stick> ActionParsnip: cool, let me take a look
[11:37] <stevem> TopBunny98 / TopKatz_ : You wouldn't happen to have ever gone by topgun17 perhaps?
[11:38] <haaga> anyone got any experience running apache with mod_dumpio?
[11:38] <pragad> unrelated????
[11:38] <haaga> cant get it to log anything
 Maybe you were playing around with the sysrq key?
[11:38] <pragad> @wgrant ??
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> slap_stick: i'd go with the router reboot first, quick and easy and may just fix you up
[11:38] <pragad> @qwa may be???
[11:39] <wgrant> pragad: Pressing keys other than SysRq, as qwa said, doesn't do anything nasty.
[11:39] <pragad> and what does sysrq do
[11:39] <wgrant> pragad: Alt+SysRq+variousotherkeys do very things that you don't want to know about.
[11:39] <wgrant> Rebooting in nasty ways, and that sort of thing.
[11:39] <pragad> @wgrant @qwa
[11:40] <pragad> then no trial and error learning possible in linux world??
[11:40] <haaga> Humm, i really need help with logging POST data with apache. Anyone got any pointers?
[11:40] <wgrant> pragad: Huh?
[11:41] <pragad> thats dangerous is it not
[11:41] <pragad> if simply pressing alt +sysrq is going to do things to the system
[11:41] <wgrant> pragad: Pushing random buttons on electronic devices is a bad idea in general.
[11:41] <bassliner> anyone an idea why i see the package "flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound" on the one machine in the apt search results but not on another?
[11:41] <wgrant> pragad: It doesn't do anything permanent.
[11:41] <qwa> I think it's disabled by default
[11:42] <wgrant> qwa: It's not.
[11:42] <pragad> ok now what do i do any idea
[11:42] <bassliner> (yes i enabled the multiverse repository)
[11:42] <pragad> any commandline magic @wgrant
[11:42] <wgrant> bassliner: It only exists on i386, not amd64. It also shouldn't be necessary any more.
[11:42] <wgrant> pragad: I do not know.
[11:42] <pragad> @qwa
[11:42] <bassliner> wgrant: i got 2 i686 machines here
[11:43] <tgr_> hi i was wondering if this is right when i use top or htop it says cpu percentage 100% for firefox
[11:43] <pragad> ok
[11:43] <wgrant> bassliner: Same version of of Ubuntu?
[11:43] <bassliner> wgrant: and both have ubuntu 8.10
[11:43] <bassliner> wgrant: yeah
[11:43] <wgrant> Hmm.
[11:43] <kt> ActionParsnip: still around?
[11:43] <wgrant> tgr_: Firefox does that occasionally.
[11:43] <wib> hi. my hdd broke. :( i'm running on a live cd. the drive is mounted, it makes weird noises and i can access *some* files. all files that i was able to access i have backupped. now i would like to try to recover the whole drive... how would i go aboit that?
[11:44] <wgrant> wib: You could try a tool like partimage, but if that fails you could use something like ddrescue. The latter is meant for this sort of thing.
[11:44] <tgr_> wgrant: it does that all the time
[11:44] <haaga> hum, anyone tried netbook remix with a hp 2133?
[11:44] <wgrant> bassliner: 'apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound' on both, please.
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> kt: sup
[11:45] <tgr_> wgrant: everytime i open my firefox it shows that
[11:45] <wgrant> tgr_: It's often a plugin or extension (such as Adobe Flash Player).
[11:46] <kt> Action: so if i ping example.com or www.example.com from my shell, it resolves to the IP i defined in /etc/hosts
[11:46] <kt> But apache isnt serving the right content (even with a named virtual hosts--i know they are setup correctly)
[11:46] <bassliner> wgrant: one second :)
[11:46] <bassliner> wgrant: it's my girlfriend's computer and i have to remotely get her to enter stuff in the terminal :)
[11:47] <bassliner> wgrant: which she obviously does real good but remember it's just my girlfriend
[11:47] <bassliner> :)
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> kt: sounds like an apache thing, try asking in #apache
[11:47] <wgrant> bassliner: Sure.
[11:47] <bassliner> wgrant: ok it's a hardy there
[11:47] <tgr_> anyone here run xubuntu?
[11:48] <wib> wgrant: thanks, i'll give ddrescue a trz
[11:48] <wib> try
[11:48] <bassliner> wgrant: nevermind, thanks in advance :)
[11:48] <wgrant> bassliner: That would do it.
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> tgr_: try asking in #xubuntu
[11:48] <tgr_> yeah i am there also
[11:48] <Mr_Kaizer> wgrant: There is no error message, the desktop just fails to load after I've logged inn
[11:49] <coz_> 1
[11:50] <Hetor> how to move files via terminal?
[11:51] <harrach> hetor: normal mv command?
[11:51] <wgrant> Hetor: mv path/to/source path/to/test
[11:51] <wlodi> Hetor: use 'mv' command
[11:51] <wgrant> s/test/dest/
[11:51] <mriera_> hello
[11:51] <Hetor> ok, thank you
[11:51] <harrach> hi mriera
[11:51] <mriera_> i have a small problem
[11:51] <Mr_Kaizer> s3r3n1t7 (When you get back): My drive isn't full, just formated it, Ubuntu is the only thing on it.
[11:52] <mriera_> with this 8.10 last update some of my users have chosen to override the file
[11:52] <BaRbieDoll> any one here
[11:52] <mriera_> there is any way to revert this?
[11:52] <coz_> BaRbieDoll,  I think many are here guy :)
[11:52] <coz_> gal
[11:52] <BaRbieDoll> so slow in here wow
[11:53] <harrach> mriera_ which file do they want to override?
[11:53] <coz_> BaRbieDoll,   mm I just got there so I cant compare yet :)
[11:53] <bassliner> wgrant: is that problem still existing with 9.04?
[11:54] <bassliner> wgrant: or will it just be smooth sail and it works out-of-the-box?
[11:54] <bassliner> wgrant: she obviously just got an 8.04 LTS there
[11:54] <Mohero> is there a way I can change the MOTD and still have the cron job update the packages that can be installed?
[11:54] <bassliner> wgrant: i'm probably just going to install her a 9.04 tomorrow
[11:54] <mriera_> today or yesterday ubuntu had an update on 8.10 , and it asked about if he should override a file or not.   If I choosed yes , how I can come back to my old file?  (it's about pam , and now I can not authenticate)
[11:55] <bassliner> Mohero: that question really doesn't make sense to me.
[11:55] <Mohero> bassliner: the MOTD is updated by a cron job, so when I modify the MOTD, cron over-writes it again
[11:55] <harrach> mriera_: if the file is overwritten, you cannot get back the old one.
[11:56] <bassliner> mackk431: then you would have to alter the script that the cron job executes, remove the cron job or something like that.
[11:56] <bassliner> err
[11:56] <bassliner> Mohero:
[11:56] <mriera_> harrach_ ok, then may be if I know the name I can take it from other sistems, can somebody tell me wich is the last update related to pam?
[11:56] <wgrant> bassliner: It's no longer needed in 9.04, nor 8.10 in most cases.
[11:57] <bassliner> wgrant: well i had to install that extrasound package on my netbook running 8.10, hence the question :)
[11:57] <wgrant> bassliner: Right, but it's certainly not needed in Jaunty.
[11:57] <bassliner> wgrant: thanks!
[11:58] <Mohero> bassliner: ok, i'll do that...
[12:00] <luiX_> hi all
[12:01] <luiX_> when installing apache (default config) which user does it use for accessing files?
[12:01] <syphys> Hello Is there a French server please?
[12:01] <Mr_Kaizer> #ubuntu-fr ?
[12:02] <Mr_Kaizer> French room you mean?
[12:02] <wgrant> luiX_: www-data
[12:02] <syphys> Mr_Kaizer : Yes :)
[12:02] <pragad7> how to repair ubuntu
[12:02] <luiX_> wgrant, thanks
[12:03] <pragad7> anyone
[12:03] <joaopinto> pragad7, it depends on how it's "broken"
[12:03] <pragad7> it is all black
[12:03] <pragad7> everyhitn is black
[12:03] <pragad7> it just happened some time ago
[12:04] <pragad7> in windows usually you put the cd back in  do that scan disk something . is there nothinf i can do i n ubuntu
[12:05] <joaopinto> pragad7, does the system boot normally, but then you get a black screen when it gets into the graphical login ?
[12:05] <pragad7> i can login alright
[12:05] <joaopinto> do you get the user selection screen ?
[12:05] <Mr_Kaizer> pragad7, I'm having almost the same error
[12:06] <pragad7> then icons appear for i sec
[12:06] <pragad7> then everthing goes black step by step
[12:06] <Mr_Kaizer> pragad7, I can log inn, but the desktop won't appear, the screen flickers, sometimes it goes black with red stripes all over
[12:06] <joaopinto> pragad7, most likely it's something set on your X session startup
[12:07] <joaopinto> pragad7, in your case I would create a new user, and see if you can login with it properly
[12:07] <pragad7> x session???
[12:07] <syphys> No body  know how to join French room please?
[12:07] <pragad7> @mr-kaizer yes stripes also
[12:07] <joaopinto> pragad7, when you login, several applications are loaded according to the user settings/config
[12:07] <pragad7> i knowsyphys
[12:07] <Mr_Kaizer> syphys: #ubuntu-fr
[12:07] <pragad7> yes syphys
[12:08] <syphys> Mr_Kaizer & pragad : thanks :)
[12:08] <Mr_Kaizer> Then, joaopinto, setting up a new user doesn't work
[12:08] <Mr_Kaizer> I have the same error
[12:08] <pragad7> joapinto what do i do
[12:08] <Mr_Kaizer> Just tested it
[12:08] <joaopinto> pragad7, switch to a text console with: ctrl -alt-f1
[12:08] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[12:08] <Mr_Kaizer> f2*
[12:08] <pragad7> s/config??
[12:08] <joaopinto> praet, then login, and create a user with: sudo adduser test
[12:08] <stevem> does anyone have file... gstreamer0.10-fluendo-complete-bundle_7_amd64.deb
[12:09] <joaopinto> pragad7,
[12:09] <raddy> At what timezone 9.04 will be realed??????
[12:09] <wgrant> stevem: Doesn't one have to pay for that?
[12:09] <wgrant> raddy: Some time during the 23rd, in any timezone.
[12:09] <joaopinto> then just get back to the graphical login, with CTRL - ALT -F6 (or F7 I am not sure right now), and log in with that user
[12:09] <pragad7> joaopinto dont have much time after logging in it goes black in 2 secs
[12:09] <stevem> wgrant, dunno :D
[12:09] <joaopinto> pragad7, do not login
[12:09] <joaopinto> just hit CTRL-ALT-F1 on the login screen
[12:10] <joaopinto> or boot into recovery mode
[12:10] <joaopinto> and create the user with: sudo adduser test
[12:10] <raddy> Ohh okk
[12:10] <pragad7> in recovery mode i selected repair and it said it will download something
[12:11] <pragad7> something like 200mb of files
[12:11] <joaopinto> pragad7, repair will not fix a user config related problem, which seems to be your case
[12:11] <zxd> what is /etc/fonts/language-selector.conf
[12:11] <Mr_Kaizer> How do I boot to recovery mode?
[12:11] <wgrant> joaopinto: It sounds more like a compiz problem.
[12:11] <wgrant> Mr_Kaizer: Select it at the boot menu.
[12:11] <pragad7> during boot
[12:11] <joaopinto> wgrant, a new user will have compiz disabled ;)
[12:11] <pragad7> the second option
[12:11] <Mr_Kaizer> Found by pushing...what button?
[12:12] <wgrant> joaopinto: No, it's enabled by default.
[12:12] <pragad7> no it is a compiz problem
[12:12] <joaopinto> ouch :\
[12:12] <Mr_Kaizer> wgrant: I have the same problem as pragad7
[12:12] <wgrant> Mr_Kaizer: When you reboot, it should display it. If not, it'll tell you to hit Esc to show the menu, with a three-second countdown.
[12:12] <Mr_Kaizer> kk
[12:12] <wgrant> Mr_Kaizer: Can you get to a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[12:12] <pragad7> becas thats what i was trying to do when this went wrong
[12:13] <wgrant> pragad7: Had you enabled some plugin?
[12:13] <Mr_Kaizer> wgrant: I can
[12:13] <Mr_Kaizer> wgrant: I get to the login screen, but once I've logged in, the desktop won't show
[12:13] <pragad7> may be i was alredy having problem with compiz settings manager i was unable to check the boxes for some reason
[12:13] <wgrant> Mr_Kaizer: OK, try 'sudo apt-get remove compiz'
[12:13] <joaopinto> hum, should
[12:14] <joaopinto> shouldn't "gconftool-2 --type string --set /apps/gnome-session/rh/window_manager "metacity"" be sufficient :P ?
[12:14] <wgrant> joaopinto: True, but I know that removing compiz *has* to work, and it's more easily restorable.
[12:15] <joaopinto> ok :)
[12:15] <wgrant> pragad7: You should try joaopinto's suggestion, though.
[12:15] <Hetor> how to restart the sound if it stops working?
[12:15] <eldenz> where are the package files stored again?
[12:16] <wgrant> eldenz: Which ones? The downloads are cached in /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:16] <Mr_Kaizer> wgrant: Deleting it now
[12:17] <eldenz> thanks wgrant
[12:17] <pragad7> @wgrant i will try .as iam on the same machine which has the problem . i will wait till he comes back see, if it worked for him
[12:17] <pragad7> @wgrant wait till mt kaizer comes back
[12:17] <balleyne> I'm having trouble running the jaunty iso from USB, stuck at the install stage where it tries to load files from the CD-ROM. help?
[12:18] <Mr_Kaizer> pragad7: What computer are you using? I'm on a HP Pavillion dv9000
[12:18] <joaopinto> !jaunty | balleyne
[12:18] <balleyne> joaopinto: right, thanks
[12:19] <Mr_Kaizer> wgrant: No go. Still no desktop even after removing compiz.
[12:19] <Mr_Kaizer> wgrant: It worked just fine last night, stopped working this morning
[12:20] <wgrant> Mr_Kaizer: What type of graphics card? Any recent updates?
[12:21] <Mr_Kaizer> wgrant: NVidia something-something, 7600 GO I think, used the built in Ubuntu function to get the drive for it.
[12:21] <wgrant> Mr_Kaizer: Ah... the proprietary NVIDIA driver. I probably can't help you with that.
[12:22] <FEJIJFEFE> Bonjour à tous !
[12:23] <Mr_Kaizer> wgrant: Dang...I just don't get why it worked perfectly last night, but not now? I even rebooted it two-three times before I went to bed to check if it booted properly. Then when I turned it on this morning, no desktop.
[12:24] <Mr_Kaizer> wgrant: The reboot after installing the driver was normal.
[12:24] <Mr_Kaizer> I'd think the problem would have started then, if it was a problem with the driver?
[12:25] <simplexio> did you boot with latest kernel
[12:25] <Mr_Kaizer> Not 12 hours later. The comp wasn't even on for thise 12 hours
[12:25] <pragad7> mrkaizer have u fixed the problem
[12:25] <Mr_Kaizer> simplexio: Aye
[12:25] <Mr_Kaizer> pragad7: No
[12:26] <pragad7> have u done what joapinto told
[12:26] <Mr_Kaizer> All I have now is a cream colored background, with mouse pointer. I can move the pointer, but nothing else happens.
[12:26] <pragad7> i too can move themouse have you tried removing compiz
[12:27] <Mr_Kaizer> I have
[12:27] <Hetor> I have a problem
[12:27] <Mr_Kaizer> No effect
[12:27] <pragad7> are u sure
[12:27] <Hetor> Sometimes sound breaks and the only way to bring it back is to restart the system
[12:27] <pragad7> did u type the right command
[12:27] <Hetor> what can I do?
[12:27] <Mr_Kaizer> pragad7: What computer are you on? I'm on a HP Pavillion dv9000
[12:28] <Mr_Kaizer> pragad7: Yes, I'm sure. Compiz is gone.
[12:28] <Mr_Kaizer> I'm going to try a boot with the older kernel version.
[12:28] <pragad7> iam on intel 1.8ghz with some little knkown motherboard with intel chipset for graphics i htinkk it is PI945GCM
[12:29] <Mr_Kaizer> NVIDIA?
[12:29] <Guest57483> Hello there, somebody there knows if its possible to upg from 8.10 to the NEW 9.04 ?
[12:29] <pragad7> no nvidia
[12:29] <Master-Mind> Hello there, somebody there knows if its possible to upg from 8.10 to the NEW 9.04 ?
[12:29] <Mr_Kaizer> Tomorrow
[12:29] <pragad7> ok now i will try j's advice and see if it works
[12:30] <pragad7> mr kaizer areu there
[12:30] <sdc> one day remain
[12:30] <pragad7> where is wgrant
[12:30] <DurtDiggler> hi I'm trying to resize a partition on a CF card in ubuntu live cd but it just keeps crashing
[12:30] <osubuck> wish they would prerelease it :P
[12:30] <DurtDiggler> when I try to unmount it
[12:30] <Mr_Kaizer> Yes pragad7
[12:31] <pragad7> where i wgrant and j . what do they suggest
[12:31] <jube> in pidgin, is there a way to set it so I won't see people entering and leaving these chat rooms?
[12:33] <BigMoopies> Hello, I have an issue that (starts) with Intrepid, My NIC will just flash and never gets an IP# (DHCP?).  The network connection just keeps trying to connect.  I went and looked at Jaunty's RC's and ran it live.  It does the same thing.  This does NOT happen in Hardy (I am using hardy).  Is there a way to see what hardy has that Intrepid and so on messed up so I can update to Intrepid, Jaunty, and so on?
[12:34] <DurtDiggler> how do I resize a partition on a CF card using the live cd
[12:38] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: System > Administration > Partition Editor
[12:38] <DurtDiggler> I tried that and I'm assuming I have to unmount first to get the option available
[12:38] <Mr_Kaizer> wgrant: Is there a way I can dissable the NVIDIA driver with terminal?
[12:38] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: yes
[12:38] <DurtDiggler> when I try to unmount it just crashes
[12:38] <bassliner> is there a way to disable the panel launcher effect when clicking a launcher icon with compiz enabled? (gnome)
[12:39] <Vezir> mr_kaizer, just fyi, you made me want to listen to kaizers orchestra
[12:39] <DurtDiggler> I'm ued to that cause I use windows most of the time
[12:39] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: nautilus crashes?
[12:39] <DurtDiggler> not sure what that is
[12:39] <ziroday> bassliner: I believe so in ccsm
[12:39] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: how are you trying to unmount it?
[12:39] <DurtDiggler> but the partition editor in the linux live cd crashes
[12:39] <Mr_Kaizer> Vezir: That's where I got the name from :P
[12:39] <DurtDiggler> right clicking on the partition
[12:39] <DurtDiggler> and selecting it
[12:39] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: okay, is the drive on the desktop?
[12:40] <DurtDiggler> unmount I think It was
[12:40] <Vezir> hah
[12:40] <DurtDiggler> um
[12:40] <belim> hey. I was just wondering if anyone can help me. I have just setup my media center as ubuntu. It is running on a 47" TV with the following specs: http://pastebin.com/m404d69d7. My root is 2 WD raptor 10000RPM drives in a raid 0. When I try and play HD footage from mkv files it is really juddery. does anyone know where the bottle neck would be?
[12:41] <ziroday> belim: what video player?
[12:41] <belim> I have tested 720p and 1080p video
[12:41] <Mr_Kaizer> Right...now I have a black screen with red stripes all over, and two white blotches where the panels should be... *sigh*
[12:41] <belim> I am trying with mplayer
[12:41] <ziroday> belim: using a raid controller?
[12:42] <DurtDiggler> yeah is on the desktop
[12:42] <Mr_Kaizer> Oh wait...now the workspace selector is there! :O
[12:42] <DurtDiggler> and I just tried to unmount it from there
[12:42] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: and?
[12:42] <Mr_Kaizer> And the time and date!
[12:42] <DurtDiggler> but now it telling me that it has to write data to it
[12:42] <DurtDiggler> I don't want anything written to it
[12:42] <belim> ziroday: software raid. but If i try and run them from my USB external drive i get he same issue
[12:42] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: well be patient
[12:42] <ziroday> belim: hmm, it might be a software raid issue. Everything else checks out
[12:42] <pragad7> hello mr kaizer you around
[12:43] <pragad7> wgrant
[12:43] <DurtDiggler> it also said that some items are unreadable
[12:43] <belim> ziroday: I get ~33mb/s read/write speeds from the raid
[12:43] <ziroday> belim: got the decoders installed? What about graphics drivers?
[12:43] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: did it unmount the dirve?
[12:43] <belim> ziroday: well potentially more, that was writing from my external drive.
[12:43] <pragad7> the problem has been half solvd
[12:44] <ziroday> belim: also tried vlc?
[12:44] <Mr_Kaizer> pragad7: Same here
[12:44] <belim> ziroday: I have not installed any decoders, and it is using the ATI flglx propriety drivers
[12:44] <belim> not tryed vlc actually
[12:44] <DurtDiggler> ziroday: I don't think so
[12:44] <ziroday> belim: okay, do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras vlc
[12:44] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: okay, try run the partition editor again, can you edit it now?
[12:44] <belim> ziroday: what is ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[12:44] <DurtDiggler> nope
[12:45] <DurtDiggler> it's jsut sitting there with that message on the screen still
[12:45] <DurtDiggler> how much is it writing to my disk
[12:45] <ziroday> belim: it installs the codecs, amongst other non-free things. Does that bother you?
[12:45] <DurtDiggler> I don't want anything written to it
[12:45] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: it won't be writing much
[12:45] <belim> ziroday: no doesnt bother me, i was just curious :) i will do that now :)
[12:45] <DurtDiggler> well it must write slow
[12:45] <DurtDiggler> why is it writing to the disk
[12:46] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: so its still not unmounted?
[12:46] <DurtDiggler> no
[12:46] <genewitch> Does ubuntu support BT keyboards?
[12:46] <DurtDiggler> not unmounted
[12:46] <genewitch> Mine doesn't seem to want to connect
[12:46] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: okay, do sudo fdisk -l, find your drive. Then do sudo unmount /dev/<drive>
[12:46] <Roland123> hi.. i upgraded to 9.04 a few minutes ago.. and after the upgrade my laptop's touchpad stopped working. how to fix that?
[12:47] <ziroday> Roland123: in #ubuntu+1 please
[12:47] <DurtDiggler> I tried to unmount and it said it can't cause it's not on the fstab
[12:47] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: what did you type in?\
[12:47] <shams> hi, i can't read some files in my auto mounted ntfs file system. can you tell me a solution?
[12:47] <shams> hi, i can't read some files in my auto mounted ntfs file system. can you tell me a solution?
[12:47] <ziroday> shams: errors?
[12:48] <shams> ziroday: persmission denied
[12:48] <pragad7> where r u mr kaizer
[12:48] <shams> i can list they but i can't read it
[12:48] <ziroday> shams: err okay. if you do gksudo nautilus, then try to access the ntfs drive does that work?
[12:49] <shams> ziroday: even i can't read they with sudo command in gnome terminal
[12:50] <ziroday> shams: that made no sense. What are you trying to say?
[12:50] <shams> ziroday: see this:
[12:50] <pragad7> thanks wgrant and joaopinto for hellping
[12:50] <shams> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root       38 2009-04-22 16:01 12.txt
[12:50] <shams> ziroday: this put in a NTFS file system
[12:51] <ziroday> shams: and you can't read it?
[12:51] <shams> ziroday: yes
[12:51] <belim> ziroplay: Well that was a nit better. still not great though.
[12:51] <ziroday> shams: how are you automounting it. fstab?
[12:51] <ziroday> belim: using vlc?
[12:51] <belim> ziroday: tested from the external drive and my raid
[12:51] <Boohbah> !tab | belim
[12:51] <belim> ziroday: tryed with my and no different
[12:52] <ziroday> belim: run vlc from the terminal, play the video. Pastebin the output. You know how to do all that?
[12:52] <Boohbah> !paste | belim
[12:52] <shams> ziroday: i don't know. when i boot ubuntu, i see it, in "disk mounter" applet
[12:52] <belim> ziroday, yea i will do that quickly :)
[12:52] <ziroday> belim: awesome!
[12:52] <shams> ziroday: ubuntu detects it
[12:52] <ziroday> shams: okay, please pastebin your /etc/fstab file please
[12:53] <ziroday> belim: also what filesystem?
[12:53] <belim> ziroday, ext3
[12:53] <shams> ziroday: here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/155864/
[12:53] <ziroday> belim: okay
[12:53] <ziroday> shams: thanks!
[12:53] <genewitch> How do i tell ubuntu to use a Bluetooth HID device?
[12:54] <ziroday> shams: err is your ntfs drive in /data/Data?
[12:54] <ziroday> shams: err /media/data sorry?
[12:55] <belim> ziroday, http://pastebin.com/m21fe1949
[12:55] <shams> ziroday: no, /media/data AND /media/cms are my network share points. /media/disk is my problem. my xp drive
[12:55] <ziroday> shams: okay, where is the ntfs drive mounted?
[12:55] <ziroday> belim: thanks! looking
[12:55] <ziroday> belim: how does HD .ogv video play?
[12:56] <shams> ziroday: /media/disk ?
[12:56] <belim> ziroday, I hae not got any to test
[12:56] <belim> have*
[12:56] <ziroday> shams: okay, can you do sudo umount /media/disk please
[12:56] <ziroday> belim: okay, I'm seeing #
[12:56] <ziroday> [00000420] avcodec decoder error: more than 5 seconds of late video -> dropping frame (computer too slow ?)
[12:56] <shams> ziroday: done
[12:56] <ziroday> ooh woopsies
[12:57] <ziroday> belim: wondering if its a codec issue. Hows cpu usage when playing HD video?
[12:57] <ziroday> shams: okay, then do sudo fdisk -l to find where the ntfs drive is
[12:57] <Knirgh> s
[12:57] <belim> i was previously running Leopard OSX on this same hardware. 720p video worked fine but 1080p video wouldnt work. cpu usage goes high. ~75%
[12:57] <Knirgh> sss
[12:58] <wrwefrg> jkggk
[12:58] <ziroday> belim: hmm, can you try play http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/index.php/download/ please?
[12:58] <shams> ziroday: /dev/sda2
[12:58] <ziroday> belim: the .ogg one
[12:59] <ziroday> shams: okay, can do you do sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/disk please
[12:59] <a931bw> hmm
[12:59] <ziroday> belim: it might take a while to download however. Do you have any other HD videos in other codes?
[12:59] <a931bw> #ubuntu-gaming
[12:59] <ziroday> a931bw: /join #ubuntu-gaming
[12:59] <a931bw> i know
[12:59] <a931bw> But here can any1 help with mu-online?
[12:59] <a931bw> for linux
[13:00] <belim> ziroday, it will only take a minute. I am testing the 720p one. and no i dont believe i have any video in other codecs
[13:00] <belim> ziroday, not sure tbh
[13:00] <shams> ziroday: done, but still i can't read any file
[13:00] <ziroday> belim: sure
[13:01] <ziroday> shams: in /media/disk you still get permission errors? What about using sudo, can you cat any files inside?
[13:01] <belim> ziroday, interesting, that is fine
[13:02] <shams> ziroday: yes i can. but when i write a file in windows, i can't read it in linux
[13:02] <ziroday> shams: err okay. So you could do touch /media/disk/blablalba and a file would appear?
[13:03] <shams> ziroday: yes
[13:03] <belim> ziroday, I am going to have to come back to this another day as I have a couple things I need to do. ty for your help and at least I now have somewhere to look! :)
[13:03] <ziroday> shams: but you can't write to any of the existing windows files?
[13:03] <ziroday> belim: sure, sorry I we didn't get it worked out :(. Have fun!
[13:04] <ANTOXA> hello
[13:04] <shams> ziroday: write and read
[13:05] <ziroday> shams: it sounds like an ntfs-3g bug, and I really don't know. Sorry.
[13:05] <shams> ziroday: thank you my friend
[13:05] <DurtDiggler> ziroday: I got the partition to unmount
[13:05] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: great!
[13:05] <DurtDiggler> I tried to resize and now it got an error trying to resize
[13:06] <DurtDiggler> and partition manager crashed
[13:06] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: what's the error?
[13:06] <DurtDiggler> it didn't tell me
[13:06] <DurtDiggler> it just crashed
[13:06] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: wonderful. Can you open a terminal please and type in 'gparted'
[13:06] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: and then try to resize your partition
[13:07] <DurtDiggler> it gave a url to a website
[13:07] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: what's the url?
[13:07] <DurtDiggler> it's gone now
[13:07] <Kartagis> where is jaunty changes file located?
[13:07] <DurtDiggler> I don't know
[13:07] <DurtDiggler> I don't know if a url is going to help me though
[13:08] <ziroday> Kartagis: ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:08] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: okay, well can you do what I asked please?
[13:09] <DurtDiggler> ok
[13:09] <DurtDiggler> it opened the partition manager again
[13:09] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: yep, managed to make it crash yet?
[13:10] <DurtDiggler> oh I'll try it agian then
[13:11] <DurtDiggler> crashed again
[13:12] <DurtDiggler> it just gave me some url to paste screen shots or something I guess
[13:12] <DurtDiggler> nothing to help me though
[13:12] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: what is the url? And can you pastebin the stuff in the terminal please
[13:12] <DurtDiggler> do I need to use something else
[13:12] <DurtDiggler> this live cd doesnt seem to cut it
[13:12] <DurtDiggler> I can't it's another system
[13:12] <DurtDiggler> it's sourceforge.com
[13:13] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: err well there is a gparted livecd that you can try
[13:13] <ziroday> DurtDiggler: or commercial software
[13:13] <DurtDiggler> well I have lots of programs but they don't see linux partitions
[13:13] <Knirgh> DurtDiggler: try partition editor in livecd?
[13:14] <DurtDiggler> Knirgh: yeah it juts crashes
[13:14] <sevlarasec> #ubuntu br
[13:14] <Knirgh> DurtDiggler: try gparted livecd then.. or partition magic
[13:14] <ziroday> sevlarasec: /join #ubuntu-br
[13:15] <Knirgh> !br | sevlarasec
[13:15] <DurtDiggler> I have partition magic
[13:15] <DurtDiggler> that will work?
[13:15] <DurtDiggler> partition tragic...
[13:15] <DurtDiggler> I'll try it
[13:15] <hbekel> DurtDiggler: have you had windows vista create partitions?
[13:15] <DurtDiggler> xp
[13:15] <DurtDiggler> and I just imaged it
[13:15] <DurtDiggler> so I didn't create the partitions
[13:15] <DurtDiggler> .image file
[13:15] <Knirgh> Durtdiggler: just googled partition magic, it seems to only support ext2 so it wont work
[13:16] <sevlarasec> thanks
[13:16] <DurtDiggler> ext2 is the file system
[13:16] <Knirgh> do you use ext2? not ext3/4?
[13:16] <DurtDiggler> I don't know
[13:16] <DurtDiggler> I just resized it with partition manager
[13:16] <Knirgh> Default in ubuntu 8.10 is ext3
[13:17] <DurtDiggler> it iddnt ask me any questions
[13:17] <Ahlee_> drop the journal from ext3, resize, readd the journal
[13:19] <Ahlee_> when using a preseed file during netinstallation, what should mirror/http/directory be?  Mine points to the root of my local repository, but the installer is reporting that the mirror is either not valid or does not have a valid Release file on it, despite me being able to wget the Release file when dropping toa shell from within the installer
[13:20] <Salajadin> is preseed used for over the network installations?
[13:20] <Salajadin> whaat are requirements for pxe netbooting
[13:21] <Ahlee_> Salajadin: preseed answers questions during the installation, I'm rewriting the default mirror to be my local, as well as setting up my network/partitioning/etc
[13:21] <Ahlee_> Salajadin: requirements are a working DHCP server, working tftp server
[13:21] <Gilpy> can anybody help me with installing packet injection capable drivers?
[13:22] <grawity> Gilpy: In Linux? I thought Linux is capable of doing that without any drivers.
[13:22] <joaopinto> Gilpy, doesn't the regular kernel drivers allow that by default ?
[13:23] <joaopinto> grawity, you mean without aditional drivers, you always need the kernel drivers :P
[13:23] <Salajadin> okay thanks im pplanning for an ubuntu install fest in the not so distant future and ithink it would be best to do it with pxe
[13:23] <ZhouYu> tomorrow 9.04 will be available :)
[13:23] <grawity> joaopinto: well, yeah.
[13:23] <iceroot> is it called driver in linux or kernel-modul? like the nvidia-"driver"
[13:23] <Ahlee_> Salajadin: Yes, there are numerous how-to's for how to get a tftp daemon, DHCP server, and to get a netinstall environment up and running
[13:24] <joaopinto> iceroot, both are acceptable, it is more common to call it kernel modules
[13:24] <iceroot> joaopinto: ok
[13:24] <steveccc> does anyone know what time jaunty will be appearing on mirrors tomorrow - i would like to setup a download in the early hours of the morning to get it but until i have a link i cant?
[13:24] <hbekel> iceroot: drivers are kernel modules, not all modules are hardware drivers
[13:25] <Salajadin> okayyy imma check those out
[13:25] <mgolisch> and not all drivers are kernelmodules
[13:25] <mgolisch> :)
[13:25] <joaopinto> steveccc, if you are really in a rush just get the RC and perform the upgrades, it is very unlikely that you will get any major fix on the installer
[13:25] <Salajadin> ask my best friend big G
[13:26] <sourcemaker> how can i start ubuntu from a running linux system
[13:26] <sourcemaker> I have no cdrom
[13:26] <Halitech> sourcemaker, do you have a netconnection?
[13:26] <sourcemaker> no
[13:26] <steveccc> joaopinto: i am not really in a rush and would drather wait for the full release now its only a day away but i just wanted to avoid using lots of bandwidth then i am working so wondered if links had been given which would only be live from a set time?
[13:26] <bassliner> steveccc: you could just write a little bash script that will check a mirror for changes
[13:26] <sourcemaker> only a usb drive... but the usb drive does not start the install from bios boot
[13:26] <Halitech> sourcemaker, is the machine capible of booting from usb?
[13:27] <iceroot> sourcemaker: http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html
[13:28] <jedi06> how do you check if your cdrom is working properly
[13:28] <joaopinto> steveccc, nope, and be prepared for download performance issues on the release day
[13:28] <iceroot> jedi06: insert a cd  and test
[13:28] <jedi06> becuase when i click on my cdrom in places it doesn't do a fucking thing
[13:28] <joaopinto> !language | jedi06
[13:29] <jedi06> iceroot, what do you mean and test
[13:29] <hbekel> jedi06: what do you expect it to do?
[13:29] <jedi06> show me the MF files
[13:30] <stevem> MF files?
[13:30] <jedi06> the files
[13:30] <jedi06> the contents of the cd...
[13:30] <stevem> it could be the system hasn't mounted your CD for some reason
[13:30] <Salajadin> jedi06, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[13:30] <Salajadin> see if yourcdrom is monted there
[13:31] <sourcemaker> Halitech: is there no easy way?
[13:31] <sourcemaker> like ./install from  mounted iso?
[13:31] <dhalsimm> hi, I made a sh script but I can't make it work from gnome-panel shortcut
[13:31] <jedi06> Salajadin, /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0
[13:31] <jedi06> I think so yes
[13:32] <Halitech> sourcemaker, look at the bottom of the page that iceroot gave you, it is very simple to do
[13:32] <dhalsimm> shortcut's command is /home/dhalsim/Programs/eclipse/ec (ec is sh script)
[13:32] <Salajadin> well it is mounted
[13:32] <jedi06> Salajadin, i cd to /media/cdrom0 nothing there
[13:32] <mgolisch> dhalsimm: what does that script do?
[13:32] <jedi06> its a ghost town
[13:33] <jedi06> I know for a fact there is contents on said cd
[13:33] <bony> how to check the video driver that is running right now?
[13:33] <Halitech> sourcemaker, sorry, not the bottom of the page but the bottom of the instructions, only takes about 5 steps
[13:33] <jedi06> How do i check for firmware on said cdrom
[13:33] <slim|> hi!
[13:33] <Salajadin> try df and see if your cdrom is detected
[13:33] <pragad7> my ubuntu os had a problem.it used to go all black 2 secs after logging in. then jauopinto here suggested creating a new user account . he gave me the command i did it. after logging in new account everyhitn is ok .but his account has no administrator privileges it seems. for i do not see the add/remove programs item in the applicaiotns meneu
[13:33] <Halitech> jedi06, do you get the icon on your desktop?
[13:33] <dhalsimm> mgolisch: GTK2_RC_FILES=gtkrc-sar ./eclipse
[13:33] <Salajadin> makesure theres a cdd
[13:34] <youbi> ufr
[13:34] <Lxndr> Greetings! I'm hoping someone here can help me. I can't figure anything out from the FAQs or anything. I have this Dell XPS 1530 with Ubuntu installed. The same version that was installed when it arrived. Until a few days ago, it talked to my home wireless just fine. Now it does not. I cannot figure out what happened, or how to make it talk to my home wireless again.
[13:34] <jedi06> Halitech, well this time it magically worked when i inserted
[13:34] <Lxndr> Please, can anyone help?
[13:34] <pragad7> sorry typing mistake nokt "his account" but the new account
[13:34] <Knirgh> pragad7: make sure the new user is added to the "admin" group
[13:34] <iceroot> dhalsimm: use cd /home/dhal..../Programs/eclipse/ && ./ec
[13:34] <dhalsimm> mgolisch: it works with double click but not from panel
[13:34] <pragad7> knirgh how do i do that
[13:34] <Knirgh> !anyone | Lxndr
[13:34] <mgolisch> dhalsimm: why would ./eclipse work? that cant work usualy unless you are in that dir
[13:34] <iceroot> dhalsimm: and make it executable chmod +x ec
[13:35] <jedi06> Ok say a prayer for my cdrom please
[13:35] <Knirgh> pragad7: sudo usermod -G <group> -a <user>
[13:35] <mgolisch> dhalsimm: add to the script a cd  to the path where the eclipse binary is located
[13:35] <Lxndr> My "can anyone help" followed my question. Should I ask it again?
[13:35] <mgolisch> dhalsimm: it should work then
[13:35] <slim|> 64 bytes from www.dailymotion.com (195.8.215.136): icmp_seq=28 ttl=53 time=52.2 ms
[13:36] <Knirgh> Lxndr: sorry did not see that, only read one message
[13:36] <axsd9d> hi guys I'm facing a problem during boot, the "loading hardware drivers takes about 1 min to complete this started after i installed something and X broke down, any one here knows what to do??
[13:36] <pragad7> knirgh can i do it now or do i have to boot into recovery mode
[13:37] <Knirgh> pragad7: that's the terminal command, go to recovery mode and drop to root shell and type it there
[13:37] <Lxndr> Knirgh: No worries. As long as my "real" question gets answered, I'll be happy.
[13:37] <joaopinto> pragad7, usermod -G admin -a test
[13:37] <joaopinto> you can CTRL-ALT-F1
[13:37] <bassliner> is there a reason why only the netbook remix image is in .img format, while all other are in .iso format, on the mirrors? from what i've seen it is just possible to create a usb startup disk with an ISO9660 image...
[13:37] <joaopinto> login with your older user
[13:37] <joaopinto> and do that
[13:38] <joaopinto> then relogin with you new user
[13:38] <axsd9d> bassliner netbooks offer only boot from usb......
[13:38] <pragad7> knirgh in the command what do i replace group with
[13:38] <joaopinto> pragad7, admin
[13:38] <dhalsimm> mgolisch: I can't use cd in shortcut command, I already use its path, and file is executable too, sorry
[13:38] <iceroot> axsd9d: and internal ssd
[13:38] <Lxndr> Greetings! I'm hoping someone here can help me. I can't figure anything out from the FAQs or anything. I have this Dell XPS 1530 with Ubuntu installed. The same version that was installed when it arrived. Until a few days ago, it talked to my home wireless just fine. Now it does not. I cannot figure out what happened, or how to make it talk to my home wireless again. Please, can anyone give any guidance into how to fix this?
[13:38] <axsd9d> ya rite
[13:39] <bassliner> axsd9d: i could just use a usb cd/dvd drive. again: i can create a usb drive i could boot from using an iso image. :)
[13:39] <Enissay> Is there any equivalent to netsend please?
[13:39] <iceroot> Enissay: talk
[13:39] <iceroot> Enissay: and mail
[13:39] <satyag> any .deb maintainer around , workin on a java based program to be packaged?
[13:39] <joaopinto> satyag, try asking on #ubuntu-motu
[13:39] <axsd9d> not everyone may have  a usb cd/dvd drive :0
[13:40] <Halitech> Lxndr, have you done a scan to see if its seeing any networks around you?
[13:40] <bassliner> axsd9d: but some may want to create an install cd for usual computers as well using the image :)
[13:40] <Lxndr> Halitech; I have. It's not detecting any of the neighborhood networks.
[13:40] <satyag> joaopinto, thanks
[13:40] <bassliner> axsd9d: again, i can create a usb stick using an iso image, so where's the point in an .img file? :)
[13:40] <Halitech> Lxndr, what network card do you have?
[13:40] <Enissay> iceroot, how to use it?
[13:40] <pragad7> joaopinto my ol user account is not working
[13:40] <steveccc> joaopinto: i know performance will be bad - maybe the torrents the best way to go.  I wonder if getting the rc and then updating is best but i just think the full release would be better
[13:40] <bassliner> axsd9d: sorry, but i want to understand why they do this :)
[13:41] <Lxndr> Halitech: Whatever came installed. Is there a quick method to determine that? Let me know.
[13:41] <Pici> !jaunty
[13:41] <iceroot> Enissay: man talk
[13:41] <iceroot> Enissay: dont know, i am not using it
[13:41] <axsd9d> ok
[13:42] <joaopinto> steveccc, I usually go with the RC+updates approach
[13:42] <Halitech> Lxndr, open a terminal and post the output of lshw -C network ... use pastebin to give us the results
[13:42] <pragad7> joaopinto
[13:42] <frk2> I cant wait for the jackalope
[13:42] <joaopinto> pragad7, yes...
[13:42] <pragad7> my old user account is not working
[13:42] <axsd9d> but theres always the usual distro for desktops
[13:42] <pragad7> you remember
[13:43] <Lxndr> Halitech: Okay. Let me see if I can pull that off. The laptop isn't interneting (I'm on my desktop at the moment) so it'll be a few. Hold on.
[13:43] <steveccc> joaopinto: are there any disadvantages? does any of it say rc?
[13:43] <Halitech> Lxndr, do you have thumbdrive you can copy the info to? might be a little easier for you
[13:44] <pragad7> @joaopinto though dont hink i will need to login to give the other account privilege
[13:44] <joaopinto> pragad7, you need to login from the terminal with an administrative user, to grand admin to the other user
[13:44] <Knirgh> Lxndr: sometimes there's a switch on the laptop that turns on and off networks, check that
[13:44] <joaopinto> grant
[13:44] <wgrant> steveccc: There are bits in the packages that say 'development release', but they are just packages that will be upgraded like the rest.
[13:45] <iceroot> dhalsimm: you can also use "sh /home/dhalsimm/Programms/eclipse/ec"
[13:45] <pragad7> but at the root is that neceassary
[13:45] <iceroot> dhalsimm: if it is a shell-script
[13:46]  * Lxndr does have a thumbdrive
[13:46] <Lxndr> okay, how do I use 'pastebin'?
[13:46] <Halitech> !pastebin
[13:46] <pragad7> joaopinto  and wgrant that solutionu suggested to me and mr-kaizer . only half worked
[13:47] <pragad7> @wgrant @joaopinto uninstalling compiz didnt work
[13:47] <pragad7> only making new user account worked , the old user accoutn is still unusable
[13:48] <karol^> anyone has experience with Intel exa vs uxa on Jaunty?
[13:49] <Pici> karol^ : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[13:49] <Lxndr> Halitech:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/155904/
[13:50] <Halitech> Lxndr, ok, let me look
[13:50] <Lxndr> Thank you very much, Halitech
[13:50] <Counterspell> When I run wget with the -r option, it recurses *upwards* and retrieves files until everyone under the base URL has been retrieved. How do I prevent this? I only want to recurse "downwards."
[13:51] <Counterspell> btw my tree is upside down so the root is "up" and the branches are "down" lol
[13:51] <Halitech> Lxndr, you have an Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG and it's showing as disabled, have you checked to see if there is a switch to turn it on and off?
[13:51] <grawity> Counterspell: Actually, in filesystems the root is always "up"
[13:52] <wlinjie> #ubuntu
[13:52] <pragad7> that didnt work
[13:52] <wgrant> grawity: Almost universally in CS, in fact. A little odd.
[13:52] <Lxndr> Halitech: I've been searching all over my laptop's exterior for a switch, and so far the only switch I've found is to let the battery out. I'll keep looking.
[13:52] <wlinjie> ＃ubuntu-cn
[13:52] <Halitech> Lxndr, what type of laptop is it?
[13:52] <Lxndr> a dell xps 1530
[13:52] <Counterspell> grawity: it depends on how you think about it but yet... that's what i mean the root is the top of the tree
[13:52] <seat09> hello
[13:52] <seat09> !list
[13:53] <Counterspell> anyway how do i get wget to do what i want?!
[13:54] <Lxndr> Halitech: I believe I found the switch. Trying it now.
[13:54] <Lxndr> Halitech and Knirgh, thank you
[13:54] <Halitech> Lxndr, cool, hopefully it works
[13:55] <Lxndr> Halitech: Looks like it is working. Thank you!
[13:55] <Halitech> Lxndr, cool, glad to hear you got it working
[13:55] <Lxndr> sorry for blaming ubuntu when it wasn't an ubuntu problem
[13:55] <Halitech> Lxndr, just so I can file the info away, where is the switch for the wireless?
[13:56] <Lxndr> Halitech: On the side of the laptop, right side, near the front corner.
[13:56] <Halitech> Lxndr, ok, thanks
[13:56] <pragad7> it worked second attempt thanks joaopinto and wgrant
[13:57] <sambagirl>  i have a passport drive that is mounted however it is labeled My Passport (it is formatted for my macbook).
[13:58] <sambagirl> if it is labeled My Passport how can i cd to it?
[13:58] <sambagirl> it has a space
[13:58] <Halitech> sambagirl, you can either use "" around it or list it as My\ Passport
[13:58] <frostburn> sambagirl, use a backslash space e.g. \
[13:58] <hbekel> sambagirl: cd My\ Passport
[13:58] <sambagirl> cd My\ Passport
[13:58] <sambagirl> opps
[13:59] <hbekel> sambagirl: or simply type cd My<tab>
[13:59] <frostburn> Counterspell, man wget?
[13:59] <grawity> sambagirl: cd "My Passport" is sometimes easier than using \s
[13:59] <sambagirl> wow
[13:59] <sambagirl> what a neat commnand with the tab key
[13:59] <hbekel> sambagirl: tab completion is your friend
[13:59] <sambagirl> i see
[13:59]  * magcius wonders if Jaunty has been released yet.,
[13:59] <zxd>  I need a fontconfig guru
[13:59] <Halitech> !Jaunty
[13:59] <hbekel> sambagirl: if there's more than one possible completion, hit it twice, it will list possibilities
[14:00] <sambagirl> to remove a directory and all contents recursively what is the exact command?
[14:00] <frostburn> rm -rf /directory/to/delete
[14:00] <joaopinto> rm -rf directory
[14:00] <sambagirl> rm -r
[14:00] <joaopinto> but be carefull  !
[14:00] <joaopinto> there is no trash to recover :P
[14:00] <zhanxuw> hello all,quick question ,which command can paste picture to some websides,I have forgot
[14:01] <frostburn> zhanxuw, can you be more specific?  what application are you using?
[14:01] <frostburn> or what do you want to do exactly o.O
[14:01] <sambagirl> i have this folder
[14:02] <zxd> simply put I need to match based on  when the font is being used to  display  hebrew ,
[14:02] <sambagirl> i installed osx lepoard using something on this external to use my thinkpad with osx leopard it put a folder drwxr-xr-x 1 root   80        60 2009-04-19 14:36 BaseSystem.pkg.149VD0lw8
[14:02] <sambagirl> but i cannot do anything with it it has some wierd permission scheme
[14:02] <sambagirl> any thoughts?
[14:02] <zhanxuw> forstburn: i just want to upload a picture,I used to use it ,but now forget
[14:03] <corecode> ola
[14:03] <user3> cow lg horny
[14:03] <joaopinto> sambagirl, is that a mount point ?
[14:03] <frostburn> zhanxuw, you can use curl with a post option
[14:03] <joaopinto> or a regular folder ?
[14:04] <sambagirl> well it was a booting thing joaopinto
[14:05] <zhanxuw> frostburn:Ok thanks
[14:05] <user3> huy
[14:05] <sambagirl> but i cannot remove it and i just cant format the drive or use gparted now because it has over 400gig of important stuff
[14:05] <sambagirl> brb let me try to boot from it again on this dell
[14:05] <sambagirl> brb
[14:05] <hbekel> sambagirl: if you want to remove the folder, you have to do so as root, since it's only writable by root
[14:06] <KingKimi> how do i update clamav ?? i have installed clam and the gui of it...... but when i choose help and update.... its says needed to be root ...... help me :( i want to scan my windows drives
[14:06] <rhsanborn> Silly SSH question. If my ssh connection drops, does it close my running applications? Or does it orphan an SSH user session somewhere?
[14:07] <hbekel> KingKimi: run it with gksudo
[14:07] <corecode> rhsanborn: usually the kernel will send a SIGHUP to the processes associated with the terminal
[14:07] <KingKimi> hbekel, how ? i use the gui of it.... and i not know what command to update from terminal....... help me plz with the command
[14:07] <corecode> rhsanborn: and usually that will kill the processes
[14:08] <frostburn> rhsanborn, it's gone, you'll want to investigate using either screen, disown, or nohup
[14:08] <joaopinto> rhsanborn, you can use nohup, if you want to keep running on the background, or screen, if you want to restore the session later
[14:08] <hbekel> KingKimi: in terminal, gksudo clamav (or whatever the binary is called)
[14:09] <KingKimi> hbekel,   i did gksudo clamav
[14:09] <KingKimi> and it didnt work
[14:09] <KingKimi> hbekel, ok got it // i did gksudo clamtk and got it
[14:11] <bidossessi> hi folks
[14:11] <KingKimi> bidossessi, ////hi
[14:12] <bidossessi> i want to dualboot ubuntu with my existing linux distro. will the installer in ubuntu give me the choice of installing ubuntu's grub on /root so i can use a chainloader in my existing OS menu.lst?
[14:12] <C_Kode> Hi, I ran alsa fource-reload and it stopped the Gnome volume manager and I didn't click the button to restart it.  When I rebooted it still did not return.  How do I get it to auto start again?
[14:12] <C_Kode> force-reload
[14:12] <C_Kode> Ubuntu 8.10
[14:12] <UbuntuBoy> Heloo guys
[14:13] <topriddy> Am on Ubuntu 8.04 but familiar with Linux, am having problem working my wireless device on a Dell Inspirion 6400. Theres no menu I can click to select from a list of available wireless network, and am not even sure the Wireless is even ON?
[14:14] <UbuntuBoy> When Im Start My PC I Have A Blue Screen Whit A Error in Starting X server
[14:14] <Halitech> UbuntuBoy, what is the error?
[14:15] <bidossessi> blue screen??
[14:15] <C_Kode> topriddy: try this: http://beginlinux.com/desktop_training/ubuntu/1096-ubuntu-wireless-setup
[14:15] <UbuntuBoy> Error Starting X Server
[14:15] <darkvertex> topriddy: you might want to check through lspci or lshw yo know whether your wifi is recognized
[14:16] <Dima> hey guys, who knows when is the launch time of 9.04?
[14:16] <lantjie> hey guys  how can i install the ncurses-devel1. i need it to compile my kernel but i cant find it
[14:16] <JackWat> iwconfig
[14:16] <topriddy> C_Kode: Please do me a favour and stay around while I go through the tutorial.
[14:16] <Halitech> UbuntuBoy, what video card do you have and have  you installed any new drivers?
[14:16] <UbuntuBoy> Nvidia Fx5200
[14:16] <efjc> Dima: tomorow
[14:16] <topriddy> Or is there a GUI wireless plugin I can download,?
[14:16] <UbuntuBoy> Old Card
[14:17] <Halitech> UbuntuBoy, does it drop you to the command line?
[14:17] <Dima> oow, right, what time?
[14:17] <efjc> that, i dont know
[14:17] <UbuntuBoy> Yes i press Ok Ok Yes And then He drop Me to the command line
[14:17] <DJones> Dima: No set time, its just when the developers decide its ready, probably 24 hours from now based on the last couple of releases
[14:18] <topriddy> iwconfig is monsterous to use for even me a Programmer.
[14:18] <JackWat> 24 hours form now? that'd be lame
[14:18] <Halitech> UbuntuBoy, I think you can run sudo xfix and it should restore the driver and fix X
[14:18] <Dima> ok, looks great can't wait :) .... And I hope that RT2870 will be supported :(
[14:18] <scunizi> JackWat: that would depend on where you were and what time it is there now
[14:18] <JackWat> scunizi: 24 hours from now is lame no matter where you are :P
[14:18] <darkvertex> !who | topriddy
[14:19] <zetheroo> which release of ALSA will Jaunty have in it?
[14:19] <krishna_> i have installed QEMU where is it now ?? its not applications..... when i trun qemu in termanal , its not starting......... where does it sit ?
[14:20] <C_Kode> Where do I find information on how things auto start in Gnome?  (ie gnome volume control)
[14:20] <bidossessi> C_Kode, if you're still running gnome2.24, the volume control is a panel icon you can add back if it disappeared
[14:21] <qiaoqian> krishna: Maybe you did not install it correctly
[14:21] <C_Kode> bidossessi: ok.
[14:21] <qiaoqian> Or maybe you didn't even install it.
[14:21] <hwilde> hi I have two monitors with two xscreens using nvidia-config.  when I only have mouse and kb activity in the right monitor, both of them dim and go to sleep.  only activity in the left monitor is recognized to wake it up.  how can I fix this please?
[14:21] <KingKimi> i have installed QEMU where is it now ?? its not applications..... when i trun qemu in termanal , its not starting......... where does it sit ?
[14:22] <bidossessi> KingKimi, how did you install it?
[14:22] <fiction> I need some help, my mouse randomly stops working
[14:22] <C_Kode> bidossessi: I ran alsa force-restart and it vanished and never came back.
[14:22] <qiaoqian> Do you use mail to send and receive emails?
[14:23] <qiaoqian> mail in terminal
[14:23] <bidossessi> C_Kode, can you run alsamixer in a shell?
[14:23] <C_Kode> Yep.  I have sound now, but it's volume is very low
[14:23] <C_Kode> and some apps only play out of the left speaker now
[14:23] <bidossessi> C_Kode, do you have a volume control icon?
[14:24] <jedi06> wonders what the differense in removal and complete removal is??
[14:24] <C_Kode> Nope, it vanished.  I can run gnome-volume-control from the cmdline though
[14:24] <bidossessi> jedi06, obvious. complete removal also remove config files
[14:24] <KingKimi> bidossessi, sudo apt-get isntall qemu
[14:24] <scunizi> jedi06: configuration files are removed on the second option
[14:24] <bidossessi> C_Kode, have you upgraded to jaunty?
[14:25] <C_Kode> I'm running 8.10
[14:25] <C_Kode> On a Dell E521
[14:25] <jedi06> oops I probably shouldn't complet removal
[14:25] <pragad7> looking for download manager . came across gwget in ubuntu website says it is a gnome frontend .is it for ubuntu or gnome
[14:25] <bidossessi> C_Kode, ok, then right-clicking on the top panel should pop up a selector where you will find the volume applet. you can restore it from there
[14:26] <zetheroo> when is Jaunty being released?
[14:26] <bidossessi> zetheroo, tomorow...
[14:26] <zetheroo> ﻿bidossessi: like 12:00 midnight?
[14:26] <C_Kode> The sound used to work.  Then it just stopped.  (I think some app screwed it up)  While trying to fix it I got it working again, but the volume is messed up now
[14:26] <C_Kode> bidossessi: ok.  I can add that back
[14:27] <waan> How many hours would be good
[14:27] <pragad7> whats gnome got to do with ubuntu (noob)
[14:27] <Halitech> pragad7, Ubuntu uses gnome for the DE
[14:27] <bidossessi> C_Kode, from there, two possibilities. either push back PA's volume up, or if not enough, run "sudo alsamixer" to get access to alsa and push volume up directly from there.
[14:27] <KingKimi> pragad7, gnome is ubu's gui
[14:27] <bidossessi> C_Kode, PA being pulseaudio
[14:28] <steveccc> does anyone know if a intel core duo (not the core 2 duo) has vmx support?
[14:28] <pragad7> thanks clear
[14:28] <wgrant> bidossessi: No need for the sudo there.
[14:28] <C_Kode> bidossessi: I've done alsamixer, how do I manage PA?
[14:28] <ikonia> steveccc: it's chip specific, check the specs
[14:29] <fiction> Hi, my mouse seems to randomly stop working, I'm running jaunty, I've tried unplugging it and plugging it back in, and I've also tried using a different mouse, any help would be greatly appreciated
[14:29] <rhsanborn> corecode: frostburn: joaopinto: belated thank you for your answers to my ssh question. I wanted it to close things out. I'd dropped a couple connections and wanted to make sure I didn't have things hanging open somewhere.
[14:29] <bidossessi> wgrant, my bad, i'm an opensuse person actually, thinking of dualbooting with ubuntu once my question about grub is answered
[14:29] <topriddy> C_Kode: Link isn't opening on my system
[14:29] <ikonia> bidossessi: what is your question
[14:29] <bidossessi> ikonia,  i want to dualboot ubuntu with my existing linux distro. will the installer in ubuntu give me the choice of installing ubuntu's grub on /root so i can use a chainloader in my existing OS menu.lst?
[14:30] <ikonia> bidossessi: it will give you a choice yes
[14:30] <C_Kode> topriddy: I'm sorry, I don't know much of anything about wireless on Ubuntu as I don't use it.  The only system that has wireless, I use the wired connection
[14:30] <balleyne> is there a command I can run to find out which nameservers I'm using?
[14:30] <wgrant> bidossessi: You can specify (using the Advanced button on the last page of the installer) on which device to install GRUB.
[14:30] <wgrant> balleyne: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[14:30] <hbekel> balleyne: look at /etc/resolv.conf
[14:30] <balleyne> wgrant hbekel: thanks
[14:30] <hbekel> balleyne: you ccan also use dig
[14:31] <chrisi1512> can I put letters like !"§$%&/()... into my wireless encryption?
[14:32] <pragad7> to upgrade from ibex to jaunty. what to do. how much of a download will it be
[14:32] <bidossessi> wgrant, i'm already dualbooting, but i'd like to use a chainloader instead of a menu entry, to keep things separate and clean. so on the ubuntu i have right now, i haven't installed grub. can i do it manually and set it to find itself a place on my ubuntu root partition? a link to how would be helpful
[14:32] <Viper_Suicide> i need some grub help.....my new raid1 setup wont boot
[14:32] <scunizi> !grub | bidossessi
[14:33] <Viper_Suicide> i am getting an error when writing grub
[14:33] <Viper_Suicide> can anyone help
[14:33] <johari> df
[14:33] <alex1212> chrisi1512, try it
[14:33] <hbekel> bidossessi: just install grub to the mbr of you ubuntu root and point your primary boot loader to it
[14:35] <UbuntuBoy> I Have a Problems In X Server In StartUp
[14:35] <UbuntuBoy> I Can(t Log Into my Pc whitout Recovery mode
[14:36] <JPZ`> Hello everyone. I've  been struggling with an application that uses java. It has my CPU at 100% most of the time. I've read countless forum posts regarding this topic. Does anyone know of a java stress test that could confirm whether or not my java instalation is defective?
[14:36] <bidossessi> UbuntuBoy, did you try the solution someone gave you about running xfix?
[14:36] <gordonjcp> JPZ`: that sounds pretty normal for Java
[14:36] <topriddy> Okay no problem. After installing my Ubuntu I found out I cannot compile or run c and c++ programs by default
[14:37] <UbuntuBoy> Yes I Try Many Solution
[14:37] <gordonjcp> topriddy: you need to do "apt-get install build-essential"
[14:37] <UbuntuBoy> Do you have a Xorg.conf File For Nvidia Fx5200
[14:37] <gordonjcp> topriddy: and, minor nit to pick, but you're not running C programs anyway, you're running binaries compiled from C programs ;-)
[14:37] <topriddy> gordonjcp:  Okay am going to do that right now.
[14:37] <JPZ`> gordonjcp, I dont understand why it uses so much CPU. I'm also using Untangle ( a web filter that works with java) and it never reaches past 50% even with lots of traffic. Similar CPU installed on both servers.
[14:37] <topriddy> What?
[14:37] <gordonjcp> topriddy: I *suppose* you could write a C interpreter, and run C programs directly if you were so minded
[14:38] <pumpkin_> JPZ`, do you run openjava or the sun edition?
[14:38] <hector> what if he is trying to compile from source?
[14:38] <JPZ`> pumpkin_, sun-java-6
[14:38] <JPZ`> with ubuntu 8.10
[14:38] <topriddy> gordonjcp: What you mean by that statement
[14:38] <UbuntuBoy> Look
[14:38] <gordonjcp> topriddy: C is compiled, not interpreted
[14:38] <topriddy> Silly comment I'll just ignore.
[14:38] <waan> How many hours approximately until 9.10 release?
[14:38] <gordonjcp> topriddy: yeah, I was being facetious ;-)
[14:38] <pumpkin_> JPZ`, that JVM is fine and should work.
[14:39] <scunizi> waan: sometime on the 23rd
[14:39] <topriddy> gordonjcp: Interesting. I said compile then run? What do yiu suggest?
[14:39] <UbuntuBoy> look This
[14:39] <UbuntuBoy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/155921/
[14:39] <pumpkin_> is pidgin totally broken in interpid? it seg-faults instandly ...
[14:39] <gordonjcp> topriddy: that's normally what you'd do
[14:39] <gordonjcp> topriddy: what are you trying to build?
[14:40] <waan> scunizi: it will be the 23rd in 1 hour for me, so that doesn't really help :)
[14:40] <JPZ`> pumpkin_, is there a chance that I might have misconfigued something or could it just be the application that is at fault ?
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[14:40] <qiaoqian> Do anyone use command "mail" to send/receive a email and how ? Thanks advance.
[14:40] <gordonjcp> qiaoqian: not for a long time
[14:40] <gordonjcp> qiaoqian: mail is really pretty basic, but if you want it you'll need to install "mailx"
[14:41] <qiaoqian> fordonjcp: can you tell me how?
[14:41] <scunizi> waan: please... they haven't announced what time only what date.. you're closer than most. If you have RC then just update it and you're there.
[14:41] <topriddy> gordonjcp: Question should have been what am I trying to write. Anyway, though I write Java most/all of the time, am not comfortable on a system where my c or c++ programs don't compile or rum
[14:41] <gordonjcp> qiaoqian: how what?
[14:41] <bidossessi> qiaoqian, there's google for that. this is not #linuxforbeginners, stick to ubuntu specific queries
[14:41] <pumpkin_> JPZ`, it should be the application, unless you did something very strange. You never deleted stuff from /usr/lib/jvm ?
[14:41] <pragad7> does one have to download the jaunty image or will automaitcally upgrade from ibex to jaunty
[14:41] <joaopinto> qiaoqian, man mail
[14:41] <UbuntuBoy> I Have problem in Xorg.conf this My Configuration http://paste.ubuntu.com/155921/
[14:41] <genii> waan:  23rd sometime before midnight in Samoa
[14:41] <bidossessi> pragad7, 'update-manager -b'
[14:41] <Spabby> hi all, can anyone help me understand where the xwindow gets its startup commands from please? I want to stop gde running when I startx
[14:41] <qiaoqian> bidossessi: I think I am not a beginner @:@
[14:41] <JPZ`> pumpkin_, all I did was install java, perhaps install other java packages by mistake, but that is all.
[14:42] <gordonjcp> topriddy: well anyway, build-essential will get the compiler in, and then you might want stuff like automake
[14:42] <wgrant> pragad7: The usual Update Manager will prompt you to upgrade.
[14:42]  * gordonjcp -> food
[14:42] <UbuntuBoy> I Have problem in Xorg.conf this My Configuration http://paste.ubuntu.com/155921/
[14:42] <qiaoqian> but this question is a basis question so that I cannot find it through  Google
[14:42] <bidossessi> qiaoqian, like i said, stick to ubuntu-specif queries. mail has it's man page and it's website. rtfm
[14:42] <Viper_Suicide> can anyone help with this grub error.  Error 15: file not found
[14:42] <UbuntuBoy> I Have problem in Xorg.conf this My Configuration http://paste.ubuntu.com/155921/
[14:42] <ShackJack> pragad7: Provided your software sources are set to not give you "long term support releases only"
[14:42] <pumpkin_> JPZ`, is this a java applet or the standalone java program ?
[14:42] <topriddy> Okay, read somewhere in the ubuntu doc there's an IDE for c and C++ GTK
[14:42] <joaopinto> qiaoqian, on the terminal type "man mail", it has a nice description how to use it to send mails
[14:43] <Spabby> is it worth me spamming my question, or do I have to be really lucky :D
[14:43] <JPZ`> pumpkin_, its a java application (http://www.objectplanet.com/probe/)
[14:43] <qiaoqian> bidossessi: Can you tell me the .org of the mail, Please ,the last request
[14:43] <scunizi> qiaoqian: if you want a cli mail program look at mutt.. lots of info on that out there.
[14:43] <JPZ`> java standalone*
[14:43] <joaopinto> Spabby, more $(which startx)
[14:44] <qiaoqian> scunizi: Thanks,it bothers me a lot
[14:44] <grawity> Spabby: It's okay as long as you don't do it every minute :) I think every 15-20 minutes would be acceptable.... not sure.
[14:44] <pumpkin_> JPZ`, that thing is evil, it probes the network via JNI. Yes, that can cause 100% load.
[14:45] <Spabby> joaopinto thank you, what does that actually do?
[14:45] <UbuntuBoy> how I Can Sauvgarde My ubuntu Update
[14:45] <darkvertex> topriddy: Code::Blocks is pretty good IDE for C and C++
[14:45] <qiaoqian> I know What I asked is very basic ,and I don't think I am a newbie, I can hack the kernel but I do not know how to use mail. Funny,isn't it?
[14:45] <joaopinto> Spabby, it will dump the contents of the startx script, which lists the files that are used to start the X related applications
[14:46] <UbuntuBoy> I Want a Solution To BackUp My SoftWare and Updates
[14:46] <inma_> hi there! any program similar to Mathematica or Matlab for ubuntu?
[14:46] <Spabby> yes
[14:46] <qiaoqian> Shame on me
[14:46] <Spabby> thank you
[14:46] <joaopinto> qiaoqian: echo "Doing a send mail test" | mail mymai@gmail.com
[14:46] <scunizi> !backup | UbuntuBoy
[14:46] <JPZ`> pumpkin_, haha, nice definition. I tried to keep in mind that it itself would use alot of recources depending on traffic, but since we also use Untangle ( web filter that runs on java) and barely uses 50% cpu, I was skeptic.  Ubuntu stops responding after a few days if I leave that app running non stop.
[14:46] <topriddy> darkvertex:  so how do I get thta.
[14:46] <joaopinto> inma_, I believe there is a matlab version which runs on Ubuntu...
[14:46] <frostburn> inma_, maple?
[14:46] <Spabby> I am trying to stop gde from running when I startx, but I cannot actually find where it is being called, does anyone have any suggestions pleeeease?
[14:47] <qiaoqian> joaopinto: I can do that,but How can I receive one?
[14:47] <joaopinto> Spabby, what is gde ?
[14:47] <Spabby> gnomde desktop
[14:47] <Spabby> gnome
[14:47] <Spabby> even
[14:47] <darkvertex> topriddy: sudo apt-get install codeblocks?
[14:47] <inma_> but I guess it's not free... I mean the matlab version. Is maple free?
[14:47] <joaopinto> qiaoqian, erm, please be clear on your question, do you want to send email, or to receive email, is your question about setting up a local mail server ?
[14:47] <pumpkin_> JPZ`, you can try to increase the jvm-ram: java -Xms1000M -Xmx1000M .... But i don't think it will work form more then one week.
[14:47] <space_cadet> transferring a 4.3GB file to an external drive and now my nautilus is stuck
[14:48] <space_cadet> it stopped at 59 seconds left
[14:48] <joaopinto> Spabby, so what desktop environemnt do you want to start ?
[14:48] <qiaoqian> joaopinto: I have to think about it ,Thanks first
[14:48] <darkvertex> topriddy: or else you could go straight to www.codeblocks.org
[14:48] <qiaoqian> @:@
[14:48] <Spabby> i just want to use xorg to display a browser
[14:48] <Spabby> I am not looking to use a desktop, I just want to open a xwindow session and then start a browser
[14:48] <bidossessi> qiaoqian, i use mutt a lot when i want to access mail through ssh. supports imap. you really should look into it, especially if you host your own mail server
[14:48] <hector> anjuta is a good ide
[14:49] <jert_> its all about the emacs :T
[14:49] <JPZ`> pumpkin_, ok, I'll see if that works. Thanks alot for your time. Do you by any chance know of another application other than that netprobe that might do a better job and not consume as much recources by any chance ?
[14:49] <Spabby> I thought I would need to edit xinitrc but it doesn't appear to call gnome
[14:49] <joaopinto> Spabby, for such a thing you will need to write your custom xinit script
[14:49] <scunizi> Spabby: why not just use elinks or something similar on cli
[14:49] <hector> but he has to learn how to use emacs
[14:49] <joaopinto> Spabby, for that, you need to be capable of reading the startx script contents :)
[14:49] <frostburn> space_cadet, i'd use the command line with either cp or rsync
[14:49] <space_cadet> bah it's not important
[14:49] <pumpkin_> JPZ`, i don't need to know what is going over our network, so no.
[14:50] <space_cadet> just a windows iso
[14:50] <Spabby> joaopinto if I write a .xinitrc and put it in ~ will it stop gnome from starting?
[14:50] <hector> then what about a vim?
[14:50] <space_cadet> frostburn, thanks though
[14:50] <joaopinto> Spabby, yes, if you create a $HOME/.xinitrc , it will override the system init
[14:50] <JPZ`> pumpkin_, ok, thanks for the help though.
[14:50] <topriddy> darkvertex: Guess I'll have to install build-essential before codeblock
[14:50] <Spabby> see that isn't working
[14:51] <hbekel> Spabby: add "exec yourbrowser" to the end of your .xinitrc and run startx (i.e., start the browser in place of a wm). I can't tell you how that might interfere with a DM, though
[14:51] <space_cadet> allright
[14:51] <PartTimeJerk> I am running Jaunty 64 bit and am having trouble with my mouse (Logitech G5) will frequently stop working, I have tried another mouse (Razor Diamondback), and uplugging it and plugging it back in, but the only thing I've found to work is a full restart, please help
[14:51] <Spabby> I have $HOME/.xinitrc which contains simply "firefox" but it still starts gnome
[14:51] <joaopinto> !jaunty | PartTimeJerk
[14:51] <hbekel> Spabby: using startx, yes?
[14:52] <Spabby> of course, spelling .xinitrc correctly really helps
[14:52] <Spabby> :X
[14:52] <darkvertex> topriddy: yes, build-essential, then codeblocks
[14:52] <Spabby> thanks for the help all
[14:52] <alex2> hi how to turn off bluetooth ?
[14:52] <emretemp> well firefox seems to be a bit slow and memory eating monster on ubuntu. any other good browser recommentation will be gladly appr. except opera.
[14:52] <joaopinto> Spabby, sh -x $(which startx) , and check how the script flows
[14:52] <pragad> not able to use even normal visual effects in ubuntu
[14:53] <pragad> why
[14:53] <rrowell>  I'm trying to start firefox and it keeps saying "Firefox is already running", but that isn't true, ps -aux | grep -i fire and ps -aux | grep -i moz both report nothing... I even restarted X just to make sure, nothing... How do I convince firefox it is OK to start?
[14:53] <darkvertex> topriddy: you can also use anjunta as your IDE, as hector mentioned
[14:53] <Halitech> rrowell, open a terminal and do killall -9 firefox-bin
[14:53] <alex2> how to turn off bluetooth ?
[14:54] <hector> I remember when I started I was confused too.
[14:54] <grawity> rrowell: And if killall doesn't work, try deleting a file named "lock" in Firefox profile directory. (Somewhere in ~/.mozilla/)
[14:54] <pepperjack> alex2: im assuming the bluetooth shows up as a nic when doing sudo ifconfig -a?
[14:54] <rrowell> Halitech, there is no firefox running, like I said ps aux | grep -i fire returns zilch
[14:55] <pepperjack> alex2: sorry i dont know alot about bluetooth but sudo ifconfig eth0 down   where eth0 is changed to the bluetooth device may work
[14:55] <Halitech> rrowell, then look for the lock file that grawity suggested
[14:55] <pragad> ubuntu refuses to allo w any visual effects in system>preferences>appearance>visual effects why
[14:55] <topriddy> darkvertex: anjunt provides RAD development and other Intellisense and nice features right? Thank you all as you have been helpful. I only need to get my wireless up and running and then I'll be as comfortable on Linux like I was on Windpws
[14:55] <frostburn> rrowell, you'll probably want to ask #firerox
[14:55] <Halitech> pragad, video driver may not support it
[14:55] <hbekel> rrowell: try rm .mozilla/firefox/<whatever>.default/lock if it exists
[14:55] <scunizi> pragad: you are using generic video drivers and haven't enabled ones that might be listed in system/admin/hardware drivers
[14:56] <darkvertex> topriddy: As I mentioned before, check your wifi availability through lspci and/or lshw
[14:56] <Spabby> seriously thank yo uso much
[14:56] <topriddy> pragad: I think your graphics driver doesnt support it.
[14:57] <pragad> scunizi it says that no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[14:57] <scunizi> pragad: what kind of card do you have.?
[14:57] <cellofellow> pragad➜ do you know what video card you have?
[14:57] <rrowell> hbekel, TY, the lock file was the issue
[14:57] <Halitech> pragad, you could try envy to see if it can get a driver that will support compiz
[14:57] <pragad> i think intel 945
[14:57] <scunizi> !envy | Halitech
[14:57]  * cellofellow didn't know i945 needed special drivers.
[14:57] <topriddy> How do I do that? Its an inbuilt Wireless that comes with Inspirion. I don;t know jack about the tool you mentioned
[14:58] <Halitech> scunizi, was thinking he had said an older fx5200
[14:58] <hbekel> rrowell: these types of errors often involve a stale lockfile
[14:58] <_XAXAB_O_P_E_X_> heyya ppl :) i have a question about user and password prompt of ftp site: i have one machine with ubuntu-server on it with vsftpd. Generally when i go to some ftp site a window appears requiring user and pass to login, but in my case when i go to my ftp server it doesnt prompt me for user and pass
[14:58] <cellofellow> pragad➜ though it might need XGL for Compiz, not 100% sure it supports AIGLX.
[14:58] <scunizi> pragad: you can check with lspci or sudo lshw
[14:58] <pragad> cello fellow intel945gc
[14:58] <scunizi> Halitech: still doesn't matter.. envy is never the recommended way
[14:58] <pepperjack> _XAXAB_O_P_E_X_: you want to disable anonymous login?
[14:59] <_XAXAB_O_P_E_X_> i did that in vsftpd.conf
[14:59] <darkvertex> topriddy: just type lspci on your terminal. through it you'll see whether your wifi is recognized by ubuntu
[14:59] <_XAXAB_O_P_E_X_> but it still logs me directly without the window prompting for user and pass
[15:00] <cellofellow> pragad➜ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver
[15:00] <grawity> _XAXAB_O_P_E_X_: Maybe the ftp client remembered your password?
[15:00] <magcius> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/119372/notify-osd-better.png <--- my notify-osd fork
[15:00] <hbekel> Spabby: if you want to run a second xserver, use startx -- :1 vt8 (will run on vt8, switch using ctrl+alt+F7/F8)
[15:00] <magcius> http://launchpad.net/notify-osd-better
[15:00] <scunizi> pragad: might be that the system was setup with the wrong driver reference.. look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what's listed in the driver line.. should be "intel"
[15:00] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone help me here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1132791
[15:00] <_XAXAB_O_P_E_X_> i've never entered it :)
[15:01] <Pici> magcius: Why are you posting that here?
[15:01] <behappy> Hello I have a server with 16 Gb of ram and dual processor I have high load load average: 153.66, 122.30, 104.24   is this caused by the system lilmiter I have CentOs 32 bit
[15:01] <tadeu_> guys, any known problem about upgrading 8.10 to 9.04 ?
[15:01] <magcius> Pici, because there isn't a #notify-osd?
[15:01] <ikonia> behappy: ask in #centos
[15:01] <ikonia> behappy: this is ubuntu support
[15:01] <wgrant> tadeu_: No, but 9.04 hasn't been released yet.
[15:01] <Pici> magcius: This is a support channel, and notify-osd is only in 9,04 that isn't even released yet.
[15:01] <behappy> ikonia, thank you
[15:02] <pragad> it says 82945G/GZ integrated graphics controller
[15:02] <Pici> !jaunty
[15:02] <magcius> Pici, should I take it to #ubuntu-devel ?
[15:02] <tadeu_> wgrant, yes, but RC is available.. if anyone tested..
[15:02] <ikonia> magcius: posting a URL is not a question
[15:02] <scunizi> magcius: #ubuntu+1
[15:02] <pragad> @scunizi
[15:02] <topriddy> darkvertex:  Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)
[15:02] <scunizi> pragad: might be that the system was setup with the wrong driver reference.. look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what's listed in the driver line.. should be "intel"
[15:03] <wgrant> tadeu_: This is #ubuntu+1 material
[15:03] <topriddy> darkvertex: That was listed hence I get its supported.
[15:03] <Halitech> PerryArmstrong, you have a response
[15:04] <darkvertex> topriddy: then click on nm-applet, which located at the top panel. set your wifi settings there.
[15:04] <snapple> ........
[15:04] <PerryArmstrong> Halitech; thanks...i am reading the link you provided me
[15:04] <Halitech> PerryArmstrong, welcome
[15:05] <PerryArmstrong> Halitech; but does it help in getting all that what i wanted??
[15:05] <pragad> @scunizi i copied and pasted /etc/X11/xorg.conf this in the terminal and it said no permissions
[15:05] <Spabby> ok I am trying to have jsut a browser running on boot (opera in kiosk mode), I thought that replacing the desktop witha  browser would be the way to go, is this the best way to achieve this?
[15:05] <dt3k> 1....more....day
[15:05] <topriddy> darkvertex:  Agreed. The problem is that when I click "connect  to other wireless" it shows me an Input prompt that requires I explicitly mention the name of wireless I intend connecting to.\
[15:06] <scunizi> !resolution | pragad follow this link..
[15:06] <Halitech> PerryArmstrong, it should as far as the PXE boot to get the system installed, honestly not sure on the update part
[15:07] <topriddy> darkvertex: Unlike my Vista where I can just select from any discovered Wireless network around the area. If am Bugging you please alert me and I'll immediately stop bothering you. Thanks for been helpful.
[15:07] <vectoroc|w> how i can define subdomain (e.g. subdomain.hostname.local. ) with avahi ?
[15:07] <PerryArmstrong> Halitech; i cant really experiment since its my university lab...i already experimented with hardy and facing lots of problems...so i need to find a solution to all those specifications....
[15:08] <darkvertex> topriddy: I'm not sure myself about this part, cause I don't have wifi atm. No bother though. Someone else might be able to help.
[15:08] <corey_> how do I change my touchpad settings?
[15:09] <Halitech> PerryArmstrong, ok, only thing I can suggest is trying it with a small network of say 3 or 4 systems connected with a hub/switch to the machine you will use as a server and see how things go
[15:09] <dassouki> why is it that flash consumes 100% of my processing power . it is pretty irritating :(
[15:09] <corey_> how do I change my touchpad settings?
[15:09] <dassouki> corey_: system preferences mouse .... or u can change it in ur X file
[15:10] <tommacco> dassouki: i feel the pain.  if you're using proprietary flash try complaining to adobe
[15:10] <corey_> dassouki: thanks
[15:10] <PerryArmstrong> Halitech; so i just have to make sure that once i have the manual/guidance for it i can get the things done....anyways i have 2 weeks time to start that...until that if you find any other useful information please do let me know
[15:10] <Halitech> PerryArmstrong, will do if I find any other info
[15:10] <PerryArmstrong> Halitech; thanks...see ya bye
[15:11] <dassouki> tommacco: are tehre any other flash versions ?
[15:11] <corey_> dassouki: I want to disable the tap click when a text editor is the window in focus but, that is not an option
[15:12] <dassouki> corey_: there are a few tutorials on google for that, i did mine 2 years aogo there
[15:13] <topriddy> Is there a way to just select any available wireless device on Ubuntu instead of having to enter the name manually?
[15:13] <Ahlee_> anybody know what I need to specify to apt-mirror to get a mirror of debian-installer/ ?
[15:13] <simon__> kjgakdsjh
[15:13] <dassouki> another question ,, can i disable bluetooth from ubuntu
[15:14] <topriddy> Installing the build-essential is really a slow process considering the speed of my network, i just hope i get more than just c and c++
[15:14] <Ahlee_> what compiler are you searching for in particular?
[15:15] <Kangarooo> is it possible to get files back on EXT4 after YOUI-KNOW-WHAT command?
[15:15] <Ahlee_> topriddy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/build-essential
[15:15] <Kangarooo> !you-know-what-command
[15:15] <LjL> !recovery | Kangarooo, ext4 is not in current Ubuntu
[15:16] <Kangarooo> yes :) thx :)
[15:16] <topriddy> ubottu: What a give away. javabot on #java is intelligent :D
[15:17] <pepperjack> topriddy: i believe there is usually an 'auto' option in the little tool on the gnome panel
[15:17] <corecode> i think the preseed docs are wrong.  you can't seem to leave away the protocol for the preseed/url
[15:17] <cellofellow> Anyone ever program a bot that passed the turing test?
[15:17] <Pici> !ot
[15:18] <simon__> exit
[15:18] <Kangarooo> LjL but i have ext4 from 3 weeks ago daily beta .. so i still can get them back? even if YKWcommand with -rf ?
[15:18] <Ahlee_> corecode: preseed is a pain.  what's the specific issue?
[15:18] <Ahlee_> also remember that if you're netbooting, you can't preseed before the network is configured
[15:18] <Ahlee_> without moving those options to kernel parameters
[15:18] <corecode> Ahlee_: the docs said i can write url=hostname, and it should add http:// by itself, but it doesn't
[15:18] <Ahlee_> corecode: d-i mirror/protocol string http
[15:18] <corecode> Ahlee_: do you have a better solution?
[15:18] <Pici> Kangarooo : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[15:19] <dassouki> is there a way i can limit my processing power to let's say 80%
[15:19] <corecode> Ahlee_: oh, that's intertwined?
[15:19] <LjL> !recover > Kangarooo,    (Kangarooo,, see the private message from ubottu) i meant to give you this one
[15:19] <corecode> Ahlee_: well, that's not set at the command line :)
[15:19] <Jonny> Hi all - can anyone tell me, does iptables support VLAN interfaces? I mean, interfaces defined via vlan_raw_device in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:19] <Jonny> I am getting conflicting messages from google
[15:19] <Ahlee_> corecode: start over with whatyou're trying to do
[15:19] <tommacco> dassouki: i believe there is at least one or two open flash alternatives, haven't had much luck with either of them in my personal experience though
[15:20] <corecode> Ahlee_: unattended network install
[15:20] <corecode> Ahlee_: with machines set up to use ldap for authentication and mount /home from nfs
[15:20] <topriddy> pepperjack: Its not given me the auto option. How do I even confirm its ON in the first place??? The "Hot Key" on my Dell only triggers the Bluetooth but leaves the Wifi indicator off -=> unlike my Windows
[15:21] <pragad> i have been at this irc all day asking various questions. i am exhausted and need to take a break or i will collapse . will come back after 1 hour or two thanls all for your help
[15:21] <Ahlee_> corecode: you can't preseed until the network is configured, as I said, so prepend up to that point with kernel options off your PXE boot server, i.e.: append vga=text console=tty0 console=ttyS0,9600n8 languagechooser/language-name-ascii=English locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=us netcfg/choose_interface=eth0  netcfg/dhcp_timeout=60 initrd=ubuntu-installer/amd64/initrd.gz url=http://192.168.217.33/preseed.cfg --
[15:21] <sirMajid> ﻿hi, do you know where should I give the name of c++ headers, so auto completion enables? (in kdevelop)
[15:22] <corecode> Ahlee_: i was under the impression that auto=true would postpone the config
[15:22] <corecode> Ahlee_: that also almost worked, just that it popped up the "press some keys and i'll figure out the layout" dialog
[15:22] <tommacco> dassouki: best bet might be gnash
[15:23] <Guest26656> hey, I'm trying to set fireFTP to open stuff with the text editor but its not working...I don't think I set the paths right, where are things installed?
[15:24] <Guest26656> i've set it to "/usr/share/applications/kde4/kate.desktop" does that look right?
[15:24] <grawity> Guest26656: I don't think so ... try /usr/bin/kate or something like that.
[15:25] <mbeierl> Any use GSM modems here?
[15:28] <Guest26656> grawit: thx...that fixed
[15:28] <nanotube> hi guys. is there software that would allow you to easily push configuration changes to dozens/hundreds of machines at once?
[15:29] <Dreamglider> i used gsm phone as a modem back in 2000 or 2001 :P
[15:29] <Mint`> my
[15:29] <Dreamglider> 1.5Kb/s :P
[15:29] <Mint`> sounds like generations ago
[15:29] <Mint`> what speed do you get now, Dreamglider
[15:29] <Dreamglider> 500Kb/s
[15:29] <Dreamglider> (dsl)
[15:30] <hbekel> nanotube: rsync, for one, there's also ssh multiplexers that allow you to run commands on multiple machines at once (this of course implies that all machines are identical)
[15:30] <DG190751> has gotten up to 1.2 megs/sec with a wireless connection
[15:30] <Dreamglider> i think the IrDA connection between the laptop and the phone was the bottleneck.
[15:31] <nanotube> hbekel: hm, so nothing specifically for "configuration sync"?
[15:31] <Ahlee_> nanotube: look into puppet, you'll be happy with it
[15:33] <hbekel> nanotube: no that i know of... but there are certainly lots of admins doing something similar
[15:34] <IHS_intern> Trying to create a GPG signature for the ubuntu mirror I have setup..and I have no idea what I'm doing.
[15:34] <hbekel> nanotube: i never had the need to do it myself
[15:34] <nanotube> Ahlee_: the puppet that comes up as the first search result on google for "puppet" ?
[15:34] <Ravenkin> Can anyone recommend a good IDE for C++ on Ubuntu?
[15:34] <Kwaa> hey, how can i make my terminal say "Hello", "Good Morning" etc when i start it? without seening the command.
[15:35] <nanotube> hbekel: hm well i'll look at the puppet thing that ahlee mentions, if that doesn't look like it, rsync it is. :)
[15:35] <Ahlee_> nanotube: Yes.
[15:35] <nanotube> Ahlee_: cool, thanks, i'll take a look :)
[15:35] <Ahlee_> puppet is more up front work than rsync
[15:35] <Ahlee_> but, in the long run is much more powerful
[15:35] <hbekel> Kwaa: put echo "Hello" in .bashrc
[15:36] <beardorado> hi,if i use Interrupt Gate or Trap Gate,does CPU  cleared  NT bit ?
[15:36] <darkvertex> Ravenkin: codeblocks?
[15:36] <Kwaa> hbekel: and it wont show: iMac:~ Kwaa$ echo "Hello" and then the msg?
[15:37] <Ravenkin> Darkvertex: I'll try it thanks.
[15:37] <hbekel> Kwaa: shouldn't, unless you use set -x or similar
[15:37] <hbekel> Kwaa: just try
[15:37] <darkvertex> Ravenkin: np
[15:37] <Kwaa> Any idea where i can find .bashrc on osx?
[15:38] <ubstub> Hello
[15:38] <Mint`> !jaunty
[15:38] <Kwaa> nvm, found it
[15:38] <hbekel> Kwaa: if you don't have it, create it in your homedir
[15:38] <ubstub> I'm on an nvidia geforce 6200 and I'm getting a lot of artifacts on the screen. For example my mouse cursor sometimes randomly disappears.
[15:39] <Kwaa> hbekel: nah, found it in private/etc/bashrc
[15:39] <topriddy> darkvertex: My apt-get cant locate any of codeblocks or anjunta
[15:39] <pepperjack> ubstub: using nv or nvidia driver?  grep -i driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:39] <Mint`> !grep
[15:39] <Kwaa> hbekel: so it's using php?
[15:39] <mbeierl1> DG190751: which wireless?
[15:39] <topriddy> darkvertex: What do I do?
[15:39] <hbekel> Kwaa: No, that's bash
[15:39] <ubstub> pepperjack, yes I'm using nvidia driver
[15:40] <hbekel> Kwaa: php uses echo to print, but's that's just coincidence
[15:40] <DG190751> using a wireless router by belkin, fed by a cabled modem
[15:40] <pepperjack> ubstub: running gnome or kde?
[15:40] <mbeierl1> Oh
[15:40] <ubstub> pepperjack, gnome
[15:40] <darkvertex> topriddy: there's .deb package downloadable from www.codeblocks.org
[15:40] <IHS_intern> I really want to know how to make a GPG pub key for my Ubuntu mirror
[15:40] <mbeierl1> I keep getting: Could not determine remote IP address: defaulting to 10.64.64.64 from pppd when using GSM modem
[15:40] <ubstub> pepperjack, on Jaunty
[15:41] <Pici> ubstub : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[15:41] <ubstub> ok thx
[15:41] <Pici> !topic
[15:41] <IHS_intern> Jaunty is out -tomorrow- and that is still in effect?
[15:41] <Pici> IHS_intern: Yes.
[15:41] <eso> hola guys
[15:41] <pepperjack> ubstub: might try underclocking the card http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=387019  just to see
[15:41] <eso> I've got a problem regarding Firefox and Java
[15:42] <musikgoat|main> IHS_intern: yes
[15:42] <eso> I just reinstalled the jre6-plugin, but Firefox still says I need to install a plugin
[15:42] <eso> and it suggests only IcedTea and GCJ web plugin
[15:42] <sirMajid> hi how can I enable word completion in kdevelop
[15:42] <bercik> What command builds .deb from source please?
[15:43] <IHS_intern> I've been trying to figure out how to setup a GPG pub key for my mirror for a couple of weeks, and my googling and asking has thus far come to no avail, so, does anyone know how?
[15:43] <ubuntu> FernandoF
[15:43] <ubuntu> hello
[15:43] <dee> Hay. :-P
[15:45] <FernandoF> I was broken in the middle of ubuntu 8.10 frsh installation with a CD failure report on CD ... may I do it online and forget about CD?
[15:45] <slack_> can anyone give me a hand?..
[15:45] <slack_> i cant load my ubuntu 8.04 unless i use the failsaife gnome
[15:45] <slack_> and ive been tryin to figure it out for hours...
[15:45] <Halitech> slack_, what video card are you using?
[15:46] <topriddy> darkvertex: You have been so helpful today. If I want to understand more about debian systems, how the architecture is(especially how system files are organized) where do I check
[15:46] <slack_> built in radeon...x200g
[15:46] <Kwaa> hbekel: do you know bash? i mean bash code?
[15:46] <Halitech> slack_, have you enabled the restricted drivers?
[15:46] <hbekel> Kwaa: yes
[15:46] <slack_> funny u ask that .....my problems stemmed when i was tryin to get it working properly
[15:46] <slack_> i had them enabled but ubuntu would die and go low gfx mode so there off
[15:46] <FernandoF>  I was broken in the middle of ubuntu 8.10 frsh installation with a CD failure report on CD ... may I do it online and forget about CD?
[15:46] <Halitech> slack_, try booting to the command line and running xfix
[15:47] <Kwaa> hbekel: can you help me to make this php code http://pastebin.com/m7452355e into bash?
[15:47] <Halitech> slack_, might need to do it as sudo xfix
[15:47] <slack_> was gonna say
[15:47] <slack_> but no..u shouldnt
[15:47] <Kwaa> hbekel: if you dont know php, thats a random functions, thats echos a random string from that array
[15:47] <slack_> command line is root...
[15:47] <slack_> isnt it?
[15:47] <Daemonus> what nvidia card you guys recommend to run a 1920x1200 res with compiz? thanks
[15:47] <Halitech> slack_, if you boot into single user mode it is
[15:47] <darkvertex> topriddy: you might try ubuntuforums.org
[15:49] <FernandoF> how can I contunue installing UBUNTU 8.10 ? failled while transferring system files
[15:49] <IHS_intern> slack- command line is where you access root from most easily on ubuntu , but no, CLI is not root
[15:49] <dee> Anyone for chat? :-P
[15:49] <pepperjack> slack_: for instance do a whoami command in terminal:)
[15:49] <darkvertex> bercik: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003
[15:50] <Pici> !ot | dee
[15:50] <bercik> thank You !:)
[15:50] <dee> Sry. :o
[15:50] <darkvertex> bercik: np
[15:50] <slack_> lawl...no i thought he was talking about recovory...witch is root...right?
[15:51] <topriddy> darkvertex: Am on this page and theres no link to click
[15:51] <topriddy> darkvertex: Am on this page and theres no link to click. http://www.codeblocks.org/downloads/5#linux
[15:51] <FernandoF> help: how can I contunue installing UBUNTU 8.10 ? failled while transferring system files
[15:51] <slack_> personaly i think your beat
[15:52] <topriddy> darkvertex: Maybe you can help me get the link from there, and then forward here.
[15:52] <darkvertex> topriddy: yes there is. try the one from sourceforge http://downloads.sourceforge.net/codeblocks/codeblocks_8.02-0ubuntu1.deb.tar.gz
[15:53] <FernandoF> help: how can I continue installing UBUNTU 8.10 ? failed while transferring system files
[15:55] <pepperjack> FernandoF: you might consider the alternate installcd or just burning the install cd again at the lowest speed your burner supports
[15:55] <tobywuk> Do you haveto reload cron once you make a new entry in crontab?
[15:55] <corecode> oh god preseed is a pain
[15:55] <pepperjack> FernandoF: did you do a disk check when booting up just to verify the cd is ok?
[15:55] <danbhfive> FernandoF: can you pastebin the errors?
[15:55] <Dreamglider> any program that can test the stability of my system ?
[15:55] <pepperjack> Dreamglider: myspace
[15:55] <hans> is it required to respond to an ident-request ? I don't understand the procedure of identifying to this server
[15:56] <danbhfive> !nick | hans
[15:56] <LjL> hans: no, it is not
[15:56] <Mundugnus> may i ask?
[15:56] <Dreamglider> myspace !
[15:56] <Kwaa> how can i make a if-statment like: if (cin > "Fine", "Good", Great", "Awesome") then (cout > "That's great");
[15:57] <Kwaa> in bash
[15:57] <hans> OK, got it. thanks!
[15:57] <hbekel> Kwaa: you should try a bash tutorial
[15:57] <LjL> Kwaa: try asking in #bash
[15:57] <Pici> Kwaa: May I suggest asking in #bash, this is more on topic for that channel.
[15:57] <tobywuk> can I have some help using cron please. I have "54 * * * * /usr/bin/transmission start" in crontab but when that 54th minuite comes along nothing happens
[15:57] <Kwaa> aye, well thx
[15:58] <Vissud> ok, having an wierd issue I think with doing an upgrade
[15:58] <Vissud> it goes through and tells me I have only 1 package to install, and 153 to be uninstalled
[15:58] <hbekel> Kwaa: you won't get an answer in bash... hint: help read, help if, help test
[15:58] <Vissud> i'm doing update-manager -d
[15:58] <Mundugnus> Is there someone who hear me? is there someone who see? does it anybody care?
[15:58] <Pici> Vissud : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[15:58] <bercik> I have got some problem. I am trying to install deb package manualy but it says: Sorry, an error occurred.    And its all
[15:58] <LjL> !ask | Mundugnus
[15:58] <Vissud> ok,
[15:58] <[_FireSoul_]> Mundugnus, whatz your problem
[15:59] <LjL> bercik: what package, installing how? (sorry, i think i missed it)
[15:59] <Jeruvy> tobywuk: the crontab is a master file and shouldn't be altered.  Instead you should stick a bash script into the appropriate cron.* folder (hourly, daily, weekly, etc) and then it should work.
[16:00] <FernandoF> pepperjack: yes i did
[16:00] <bercik> LjL: package dowloaded manualy from Internet, i am installing by "clicking it "
[16:00] <slack_> uhm xfix if anything made it worse
[16:00] <LjL> Jeruvy: he probably was working with user-specific crontabs, though, since what he gave is the syntax for them, not for /etc/crontab...?
[16:00] <tobywuk> Jeruvy, I want to run the command on a set time every day
[16:01] <Mundugnus> I want to switch the channel to the Russian Harry Potter community! how to? Im noob ;(
[16:01] <LjL> bercik: *which* package?
[16:01] <FernandoF> pepperjack:  as I am running ubuntu, could you just give me command to install ubuntu?
[16:01] <LjL> Mundugnus: /join #channelname
[16:01] <TonyTheTiger> hello, I am trying to install LAMP on my ubuntu however I am behing a proxy Lan therefore having trouble installing. Is there a manual way to download and install PHP5 and the rest?
[16:01] <Mundugnus> LjL, thanks i'll try
[16:02] <ez> Good morning Community
[16:02] <LjL> TonyTheTiger, packages are obtained via plain HTTP...
[16:02] <Mint`> hi dude.
[16:02] <Dreamglider> Good afternoon
[16:02] <Wolfbane> hio
[16:02] <tsLight> I have just setup SSH server (OpenBSD Secure Shell), if I edit sshd_config and put "ListenAddress localhost", am I ensuring that the ssh server is inaccesible from any other computer that is not mine?
[16:02] <Dreamglider> FernandoF: you are running Ubuntu and need to install Ubuntu ?
[16:02] <[_FireSoul_]> TonyTheTiger, what are the restrictions of your proxy
[16:02] <FernandoF> pepperjack; what i need is just repair the started installation
[16:02] <slack_> can anyone help? im stuck in failsafe when i try to just login my screen shuts off and on then im right back @ login
[16:02] <[_FireSoul_]> Even I am behind the proxy, every thing works fine
[16:02] <Halitech> TonyTheTiger, you should be able to set a proxy server in Synaptic
[16:02] <TonyTheTiger> LjL-Temp: No Apache worked with http so that installed, however php is trying to install with ftp.
[16:03] <TonyTheTiger> ftp does not work so any repo using ftp wont work.
[16:03] <FernandoF> Dreamglider I was installing and it stopped ...so good to continue installation
[16:03]  * [_FireSoul_] agrees to Halitech 
[16:03] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: ... ftp? it should not be doing that.
[16:03] <bercik> LjL-Temp: Sorry, i occoured D/C
[16:03] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: can you pastebin the piece of output where it seems to be downloading itself via ftp?
[16:03] <TonyTheTiger> LjL-Temp: Yeah give me a minute.
[16:03] <Dreamglider> FernandoF: Ahh ok. I dont know if you can continue a broken/interupted installation
[16:04] <bercik> LjL: Any ideas please?
[16:04] <FernandoF> Dreamglider I have no problem to restart
[16:04] <LjL> bercik: i asked you which package is it
[16:04] <Jeruvy> tobywuk: the /etc/cron.daily folder is where you should have a script that simply says 'transmission restart' or whatever you need.  See the existing scripts in the folder for an example.
[16:04] <slack_> does anyone have any experiance with the ati radeon xpress series?
[16:05] <bercik> LjL: WorldOfGoo.1.40.deb
[16:05] <TonyTheTiger> LjL-Temp: http://pastebin.com/d7c458b46
[16:05] <ez> I'm trying to find a 'speach to text' program to run on ubuntu
[16:05] <ez> any ideas?
[16:05] <Viper_Suicide> hi guys....im still stuck on booting into new raid1
[16:05] <LjL> bercik: obtained from where? link please.
[16:05] <rumpel> @ez speech recognition?
[16:05] <Lord_Devi> I've been trying to create a libvirt Virtualization environment on my lan. However, while the guest OS's can see the gateway+internet, they get Destination Unreachables pinging to the rest of the lan. The lan gets the same thing pinging the guest os from anywhere but the gateway(which the libvirt is on). Any insights perhaps?
[16:05] <FernandoF> Dreamglider:  is there a way to get a live archive for installation, and forget about possible cd media problem?
[16:06] <Viper_Suicide> it errors saying cannot find /dev/md0
[16:06] <bercik> LjL: torrent, are You sure You want to download?
[16:06] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: oh, i see. well, i don't know why you have FTP set in your sources.list, but you can change it to HTTP mirrors. pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and i can make it into an HTTP-based one
[16:06] <Dreamglider> FernandoF: Sorry i dont know :|
[16:06] <LjL> bercik: no, i'm not sure. is it legal even?
[16:06] <rumpel> I CANT STAND IT ANYMORE... RELEASE NOW! :)
[16:06] <Viper_Suicide> who knows about mdadm
[16:06] <bercik> LjL: i am not sure
[16:06] <LjL> bercik: i would never install a .deb package downloaded randomly from bittorrent
[16:06] <darkvertex> ez: look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech
[16:06] <TonyTheTiger> LjL-Temp: again give me a minute please.
[16:06] <Pici> rumpel: Please stop.
[16:06] <LjL> !ot | rumpel
[16:06] <Pici> !party > rumpel
[16:06] <rumpel> lol
[16:07] <FernandoF> Dreamglider:  thx ...
[16:07] <slack_> can anyone help me im stuck using failsafe gnome..
[16:07] <LjL> !lol > rumpel    (rumpel, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:07] <olejl> I have some issues with the fglrx drivers, and want to install a newer version. What is the prefert approach for this? Using th install file provided by ATI?
[16:07] <FernandoF> Dreamglider:  I hope someone saw our conversation and come up with some brilliant idea
[16:07] <waaul> Why will no audio programs play my mp3's? Audacious crashes and vlc acts like its playing with no sound. System/preferences/sound plays sound when i choose alsa and click test
[16:07] <LjL> bercik: anyway, if you insist on installing it, try installing it with dpkg from the console. at least you'll see what the actual errors are.
[16:08] <rumpel> you're funny ^^
[16:08] <Halitech> waaul, did you install the ubuntu-restricted package?
[16:08] <LjL> rumpel: quit it.
[16:08] <tsLight> how do I setup a SSH server (OpenBSD Secure Shell) and make sure it is only accesible from 192.168.*.* ? (i.e. no one from the internet can access it)
[16:08] <bercik> LjL: ill try
[16:08] <FernandoF> Dreamglider:  what is incredible is it seems to be running well but no users installed
[16:08] <rumpel> @LjL i already did :P
[16:08] <FernandoF> i have network access
[16:08] <ubuntuuiut> hey - i'm at a shop, need quick help : got ubuntu hardy - pavillion zv6000 hp laptop - wireless button won't enable wireless - tried ifconfig eth0 up, & ifup eth0 - lshw says "network: disabled"
[16:08] <ubuntuuiut> help please>?
[16:08] <Halitech> tsLight, make sure the router is not set to forward the ports?
[16:09] <ubuntuuiut> how do i enable my wireless
[16:09] <tsLight> Halitech, I have no router. I connect directly to the internet.
[16:09] <TonyTheTiger> LjL-Temp: http://pastebin.com/d4d6fb596
[16:09] <LjL> ubuntuuiut: are you sure the wireless is eth0 rand not ra0 or wlan0?
[16:09] <Halitech> ubuntuuiut, wireless normally is wlan, not eth
[16:09] <Dreamglider> FernandoF: just ask again, if someone has an answer they will probably try to help :)
[16:09] <tsLight> Halitech, I dont want to block the port with iptables either
[16:09] <ubuntuuiut> ljl: no how do i tell
[16:09] <Valen1> ubuntuuiut its probably some kind of firmware thing it needs
[16:09] <waaul> Halitech, it was all working fine earlier. now its not.
[16:09] <TonyTheTiger> LjL-Temp: Apologies it took so long.
[16:09] <olejl> ubuntuuiut: Right click the network icon in the upper right corner
[16:09] <sikolahti> Ouu dear..
[16:09] <LjL> ubuntuuiut: just try the two i mentioned
[16:09] <Halitech> tsLight, ok, just what came to me off the top of my head
[16:09] <ubuntuuiut> olejl: tried everything in there
[16:09] <sikolahti> shit.
[16:09] <ksbalaji> Hello Shri Raghu
[16:10] <Halitech> waaul, have you installed anything new?
[16:10] <ragu> yes Sir
[16:10] <waaul> Halitech, no
[16:10] <fitzgerald_> tsLight, modify /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[16:10] <ubuntuuiut> ok Ljl
[16:10] <waaul> Halitech, is there a way to find out what is using the sound
[16:10] <kwak> ubuntuuiut: was it working with other APs
[16:10] <IHS_intern> anyone familiar with PGP or setting up ubuntu mirrors?
[16:10] <rumpel> @ Ububegin check iwconfig ... could be eth, wlan, ra or anything...
[16:10] <waaul> seems like that has happened
[16:10] <waaul> youtube plays fine also
[16:10] <sikolahti> puhuuko kukaa suomee?? :DDD
[16:10] <ksbalaji> Shri Raghu, You may ask any information regarding Ubuntu here.
[16:10] <waaul> in firefox
[16:10] <FernandoF> i was interrupted in the middle of ubuntu 8.10 installation ... It is working but did not ended ...How can I finish installation providing media seems to have problem
[16:10] <Pici> !fi | sikolahti
[16:10] <ragu> Sir, I heard from you
[16:11] <tsLight> fitzgerald, yes I have got to that point already, but I dont know how to set it up (ListenAddress doesnt allow wildcards)
[16:11] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/155965/
[16:11] <sikolahti> oukkidoukki :D
[16:11] <bercik> sikolahti: mä puhun, mutta olen Puolasta
[16:11] <TonyTheTiger> LjL-Temp: thanks alot.
[16:11] <ubuntuuiut> Ljl: "no such file or directory" & "ra0: error while getting interface flags: no such device"
[16:11] <unitedpotsmokers> guys... what is the meaning of TUX
[16:11] <LjL> !offtopic
[16:11] <unitedpotsmokers> example. malaysian tux lover?
[16:11] <Halitech> waaul, have you tried rebooting?
[16:11] <unitedpotsmokers> is that about ubuntu?
[16:11] <IHS_intern> tux= Linux penguin mascot
[16:12] <ksbalaji> Shri Raghu are you able to see Ubuntu help channel?
[16:12] <hbekel> unitedpotsmokers: tux is the name of the linux mascot, the penguin
[16:12] <ubuntuuiut> i did it once before, but i can't remember how
[16:12] <FernandoF>  how can I contunue installing UBUNTU 8.10 ? failled while transferring system files
[16:12] <ragu> no sir
[16:12] <unitedpotsmokers> ahhh ic.... thx hbekel & IHS_intern
[16:12] <waaul> Halitech, no. have i mentioned i'm running linux, not windows?
[16:12] <ubuntuuiut> the wireless indicator on my computer is not lit up - & i can't light i tup pushing the bputton
[16:12] <krystal> tsLight : put 0.0.0.0 if you want bind everything possible
[16:12] <pragad1> hello
[16:12] <FernandoF>  how can I contunue installing UBUNTU 8.10 ? failled while transferring system files (it is running but did not finish right
[16:12] <unitedpotsmokers> i tought TUX is ubuntu OS
[16:12] <Mundugnus> hell something happens for me
[16:12] <Halitech> waaul, that was assumed but sometimes a quick reboot will fix things
[16:12] <unitedpotsmokers> nevermind
[16:13] <tsLight> krystal, I only want to bind LAN addresses (192.168.*.*)
[16:13] <Pici> !offtopic > unitedpotsmokers
[16:13] <fitzgerald> tsLight, ListenAddress your.lan.ip.address
[16:13] <IHS_intern> I want the bloody W: GPG error: http://10.40.32.7 intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
[16:13] <IHS_intern>  to go away
[16:13] <ubuntuuiut> i don't know if i said this: but i tried the wireleshowto docs or whatever
[16:13] <bercik> http://rafb.net/p/Hk6gjC78.html LjL
[16:13] <pepperjack> FernandoF: youll have to be a little clearer in what you mean by failing to transfer files.  otherwise the only real answer is to try to reinstall
[16:13] <ubuntuuiut> btw, i think i'm on intrepid, not hardy. but maybe hardy
[16:13] <Mundugnus> iv got really much messages. something happened for me
[16:13] <LjL> !gpgerr | IHS_intern
[16:13] <tsLight> fitzgerald, but there is more than one. Is there a way to do the entire range?
[16:13] <TonyTheTiger> LjL-Temp: Sorry it wont let me save the file, says i dont have permission. what should I do?
[16:13] <ragu> Is it in the top left?
[16:13] <Pici> !version > ubuntuuiut
[16:13] <krystal> tsLight: ha, ok. You'll have to list every IP you have assign to your server ont this/those lan, so.
[16:13] <LjL> bercik: vaguely seems like the file is corrupted.
[16:14] <LjL> !gksudo | TonyTheTiger
[16:14] <bercik> LjL: possible to fix it?
[16:14] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:14] <tsLight> krystal, ok
[16:14] <IHS_intern> ljl..wat? I -made- the repo, btw.
[16:14] <pragad1> !resolution
[16:14] <FernandoF> pepperjack: Thx it is a good answer ... Have you a command line i can use in console with sudo ?
[16:14] <TonyTheTiger> ok thanks.
[16:14] <LjL> bercik: if it's corrupted, no, i don't think so
[16:14] <ubuntuuiut> ubottu's a bot right?   i can't receive pms in this java client anyway
[16:14] <ksbalaji> ragu, this channel is ubuntu help channel. You may get your doubts clarified here by volunteers
[16:14] <pragad1> !ubottu resolution
[16:14] <LjL> IHS_intern: then also make it authenticate
[16:14] <Mundugnus> when i click "List Rooms' i see no rooms. only '0' in count of them. it was 3000+ i believ
[16:14] <bercik> LjL: there is not just one-line command to creat deb, not?
[16:15] <pepperjack> FernandoF: are you trying to upgrade or do a new install?
[16:15] <bercik> is there*
[16:15] <LjL> bercik: no
[16:15] <pragad1> !ubottu screen resolution
[16:15] <bercik> LjL: thanks
[16:15] <Pici> Mundugnus: /msg alis help   to search channels, more help in #freenode
[16:15] <Pici> !resolution > pragad1
[16:15] <LjL> !fixres > pragad1    (pragad1, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:15] <ubuntuuiut> i think the problem may be the button won't work, the wireless button
[16:15] <ubuntuuiut> even tho it does in win
[16:15] <ubuntuuiut> i can't can't b43-fwcutter or whatever that is, because i have no connection
[16:15] <ksbalaji> ragu, I am also available in a private message - please click the tab showing my name
[16:15] <FernandoF> Pepperjack: I had some previous problems so I am installing all frsh in a fresh HD so I can just reinstall ...problem is I have 2 CD I burnt and I face problems with both, so it would be great to make it just online as I have system  working now
[16:16] <ragu> shall I place my doubts here?
[16:16] <rumpel> @ragu if they are ubuntu-doubts, yes, thoug shall
[16:16] <Pici> !ask
[16:16] <^Marian^> Hello
[16:16] <ubuntuuiut> ljl: any other ideas
[16:16] <ubuntuuiut> ?
[16:16] <bercik> http://rafb.net/p/W5JZQ653.html Is it correct glxinfo output if i wat to use open ati driver?
[16:17] <waaul> Halitech, a reboot is not quick, and even if it makes the sound work again it is not a fix. it is an unacceptable solution.
[16:17] <FernandoF> Pepperjack: reinstall is an option for me as well
[16:17] <LjL> IHS_intern: the command that Ubottu gave you will fix the error on the client side, but you also need your repository to have a key in the first place. i don't know exactly how that's done, but http://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository lists a few "repository makers" that support that, and http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt describes the concept itself
[16:17] <TonyTheTiger> LjL-Temp: That didnt solve the problem as now its stuck at trying to connect to one of the sources at constant 0%.
[16:17] <rumpel> @ubuntuu the button is not really important... check, if the wlan-chipset is listed in a compatiblity list for linux
[16:17] <TonyTheTiger> 0% [Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com (194.169.254.10)]
[16:17] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: have you issued a "sudo apt-get update" first?
[16:17] <ubuntuuiut> rumpel: i've heard it can be an issue.  & it is compatible, as i've gotten it working before
[16:17] <TonyTheTiger> yes
[16:17] <pragad1> hello how to find if drivers are loaded. i am unable to set visual effects to normal from disabled. for ubuntu cannot load the drivers it seems
[16:17] <ubuntuuiut> bbiaflash
[16:18] <Halitech> waaul, they are for me but hey, I'm just giving a suggestion, doesn't mean you have to do it
[16:18] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: well then i don't udnerstand - can't you connect to normal HTTP sites?
[16:18] <ez> Anyone on any ideas on a Speach to text sofware for ubuntu?
[16:18] <rumpel> @ ubuntuuiut madwifi? ndiswrapper?
[16:18] <TonyTheTiger> yes I can connect to normal http sites.
[16:18] <LjL> ez: there is none, i'm afraid
[16:18] <ubuntuuiut> rumpel: cannot, because i have no wireless or wired connection for the laptop
[16:18] <Halitech> FernandoF, check here under install without a cd ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[16:18] <pragad1> ubuntu says dektop effects could not be enabled
[16:18] <ubuntuuiut> i am at a coffee shop
[16:18] <pepperjack> FernandoF: one option may be to boot installcd and try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux.  i often run into problems with the liveinstall cd on older systems or on flaky cd/dvd drives.  i've found the 'alternate install cd' rather than default install to be helpful in these situations
[16:18] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: well, those mirrors are just http sites... try going to http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ from a browser, see if that works
[16:18] <IHS_intern> ljl- Yeah, setting up the key in the first place is what I've been asking how to do for a week or 3, and your answer is now the best I've been given. Mostly I've gotten -no- answer and "ask your repo's admin..oh you are the admin..you're screwed"
[16:19] <waaul> Halitech, i understand. i'm just sayin, this is one of the main reasons we choose to not use windows.
[16:19] <ez> tonythetiger... thanks
[16:19] <FernandoF>  thx Pepperjack: and Halitech
[16:19] <kungpowza> any body have a how to link for setting up a media server for a PS3 on intrepid?
[16:19] <LjL> IHS_intern: that makes you sense, if you're the admin, you can make your own key and then set your client to accept it as valid. i don't know the details but i definitely know you can do it
[16:19] <cbmsc> Á
[16:19] <_g0tmi1k_> What time 2morra is 9.04 out?
[16:19] <TonyTheTiger> ez: what for? or was that sarcasm :s.
[16:19] <waaul> also: mplayer seems to be playing fine
[16:20] <yowshi> ok this is wierd volume control says it cant find ahny devices to control but i still have sound
[16:20] <LjL> IHS_intern: also, you could also just tell your client to stop giving that warning (but that's probably not a good idea in general)
[16:20] <cbmsc> hello
[16:20] <macvr> ubuntuuiut: what wireless do u have?
[16:20] <yowshi> any way of fixing this?
[16:20] <ez> no sarcasm... thanks for the info
[16:20] <TonyTheTiger> LjL-Temp: The link you gave me shows a directory with many files, so i guess that works.
[16:20] <rumpel> @ ez http://htk.eng.cam.ac.uk/ ?
[16:20] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: does "echo $http_proxy $HTTP_PROXY" return anything?
[16:20] <ubuntuuiut> macvr: i have a hp pavilioin zv6000, ki think it's b43
[16:20] <coder_> Ubuntu 9.04,  i  can hear sound when i enter the System, but  i  want to listen music or watch movies ,the sound disappers?!
[16:21] <rumpel> @coder /join #ubuntu+1
[16:21] <TonyTheTiger> LjL-Temp: No.
[16:21] <Dreamglider> !jaunty
[16:21] <_g0tmi1k_> What time 2morra is 9.04 out?
[16:21] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: do you know if your browser uses an http proxy? (which browser are you using?)
[16:21] <TonyTheTiger> LjL-Temp: Im behind a uni internet so dont know if that sheds any light.
[16:21] <LjL> !jaunty > _g0tmi1k_    (_g0tmi1k_, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:21] <TonyTheTiger> im using firefox.
[16:22] <ubuntuuiut> like i say, lshw says NETWORK: disabled
[16:22] <ubuntuuiut> i'm *not sure* it has a driver
[16:22] <coder_> Ubuntu 9.04,  i  can hear sound when i enter the System, but  when i  want to listen music or watch movies ,the sound disappers?!
[16:22] <docmax> hello ubuntu is great
[16:22] <rumpel> @ ubuntuuiut is the interface listed in iwconfig?
[16:22] <Pici> coder_ : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[16:22] <TonyTheTiger> LjL-Temp: My browser is set to automatically find the proxy setting, so it probably does.
[16:22] <docmax> but how do i disable booting in gnome?
[16:22] <slack_> im just wondering if i upgrade my 8.04 to 8.10 will it fix the current problems i have
[16:22] <ubuntuuiut> rumpel: thanks for the help, lemme check - just iwconfig?
[16:22] <gartral> good morning all, i have a new gfx card, and i just want to make sure i go about installing it correctly, running 8.10, current card is a geforce 2 mx 400, card im dropping in is a geforce 6200
[16:22] <macvr> ubuntuuiut: tried this guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[16:23] <pragad1> hello help with ubuntu not being able to find driver for my graphics card which i think is intel 945 g
[16:23] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: uhm, i see... well you should find out what the proxy actually is, and set APT to use it
[16:23] <ubuntuuiut> macvr: yes
[16:23] <docmax> hello?
[16:23] <TonyTheTiger> LjL-Temp: Hmm... for now is there a way I can install the PHP5 and packages manually, ala windows style?
[16:23] <ubuntuuiut> rumpel: wlan0 is , but lo, eth0 & wmaster0 all say "no wireless exetensions"
[16:23] <darkvertex> ez: you might want to take a look at this http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.net/sphinx4/
[16:23] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: not easily
[16:23] <ubuntuuiut> extensions*
[16:24] <rumpel> @ ubuntuuiut "ifconfig wlan0 up"
[16:24] <Andert> Hello everyone, could anybody help me with this problem: I've just upgraded from Ubuntu 8.10 to Ubuntu 9.04. When the upgrade was cleaning up, unfortunately the PC was shut down... Anyways, I managed to start up the pc, then I got an error message about an error with my Nvidia card. I managed to login by reset the settings to default and restart. I tried to do a system upgrade, and it said I should do a "partial upgrade" but after it ha
[16:24] <ubuntuuiut> rumpel: tried that:
[16:24] <mattgyver> Andert, follow through with the partial upgrade
[16:24] <ubuntuuiut> rumpe: it says "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or ddirectory"
[16:24] <TonyTheTiger> LjL-Temp: Well thanks for all your help, I dont actually know the proxy so i cant sort out the apt just now. Thanks anyway.
[16:24] <Andert> it couldn't finish
[16:24] <Andert> It read my cache and closed itself
[16:24] <mattgyver> Andert, i had the same thing happen, after doing so it fixed the issue.  I think i had to do it a few times for it to be successfull.
[16:24] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: i'm looking if there is a way to ask firefox what the proxy is
[16:24] <ubuntuuiut> rumpel*
[16:25] <rumpel> @ ubuntuuiut /join #rumpel
[16:25] <ubuntuuiut> TonyTheTiger: say it
[16:25] <ubuntuuiut> thanks rumpel
[16:25] <gartral> all i have to do is remove the drivers i have, turn the system off, and replace the card, right?
[16:25] <docmax> hello?
[16:25] <Andert> ok, I'll keep trying a few times then, I think I've only done it three times...
[16:25] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: actually, i think you can try guessing first. type "route -n" and see what the default gateway is... it'
[16:25] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: actually, i think you can try guessing first. type "route -n" and see what the default gateway is... it's possible that the http proxy is the gateway itself
[16:25] <kungpowza> gartral should be as simple as that
[16:25] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: then you'd only need to know the port, which is likely 80, 8080 or 8000
[16:25] <pragad1> sometime ago my ubuntu just went black when i enabled custom visual effects i think after i installed compiz. then i created another user account and  that way got back into ubuntu;. but now i see that the visual effects are disabled totally. my graphics card is intel 945g . how do i fix this
[16:25] <TonyTheTiger> ok let me see give me a minute again
[16:26] <Tetracomm> When was Ubuntu 8.10 released?
[16:26] <Mistery> ïðèâåò âñåì
[16:26] <Mistery> åñòü êòî ðóññêîãîâîðÿùèé?
[16:27] <cryingtux> hi
[16:27] <TonyTheTiger> LjL-Temp: I got an IP for the gateway.
[16:27] <Mistery> russia?
[16:27] <LjL> !ru | Mistery
[16:27] <TonyTheTiger> LjL-Temp: was the same as the destination although they were on different lines.
[16:27] <Mistery> !re
[16:27] <Mistery> !ru
[16:27] <Mistery> dfjskdf
[16:27] <cryingtux> what is the name of the package that automatically mounts windows partitions in ubuntu both in live and installed system?
[16:27] <RPS> Hello Guys, I've been running 8.10 on a laptop for several months and with 9.04 out there I'm considering my options. Do I install it on this laptop or do I put 9.04 on my other 64bit laptop? I had a guy mention that he "thought" it was suggested to use the October releases on laptops. That's the first time I had heard that, but the 64 bit machine has me thinking about putting Jaunty on it ...is there a 64 bit version of Jaunty availabl
[16:27] <RPS> e?
[16:27] <Mistery> pizdec
[16:27] <FloodBot2> Mistery: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:28] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: try typing:  export http_proxy=http://gateway-address:8080
[16:28] <Pici> Mistery: /join #ubuntu-ru
[16:28] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: then try apt-get update, and if it doesn't work, try that again with 80 and 8000 instead of 8080
[16:29] <TonyTheTiger> LjL-Temp: i get a "could not open the lock" kind of message? is that normal?
[16:29] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: did you use sudo?
[16:29] <TonyTheTiger> ahh
[16:29] <cryingtux> what is the name of the package that automatically mounts windows partitions in ubuntu both in live and installed system? any suggestions?
[16:29] <ninom> hello all. i visit a site called liveleak.com and before i was able to see the pictures and previes of the videos before i click on them. now i do not see the pictures. u can see the screenshot i took. i dont know if its adobe ubuntu or what. www.opijumveza.com/Screenshot.png
[16:29] <Halitech> cryingtux, you could try pmount
[16:30] <TonyTheTiger> LjL-Temp: all three ended up failling to update.
[16:30] <cryingtux> pmount is same as automount?
[16:30] <second_thought> Hi can I get some help with figuring out a port forwarding setup?
[16:31] <IHS_intern> apparently my only option to get GPG signing with the available options is...setup a different local repo with a different program than apt-mirror. yay.
[16:31] <tatters> I want to copy files using "DISK LABEL" rather than using cp somefile /mountpoint/someplace  I want to use cp somefile DISKLABEL/someplace, anyyne knw the syntax tt do that?
[16:31] <Halitech> cryingtux, I'm not sure
[16:31] <Halitech> second_thought, on a router or a server?
[16:31] <pepperjack> !flash | ninom looks like flash issue this may help
[16:31] <second_thought> on a router and dls router
[16:31] <pos69sum> hi - all of a sudden, i can't get sound from firefox/youtube, was working previously then sound quits mid youtube
[16:32] <pos69sum> i tried restarting firefox but doesn't fix - any ideas how to fix?
[16:32] <pragad1> how do i get drivers for my graphics card which i intel945g .visual effects do not owrk
[16:32] <pos69sum> probably a reboot would work, but maybe someone here would know the process to kill -9 to get sound back
[16:32] <bercik> Could some open ati driver user paste me a xorg.conf please?
[16:32] <celthunder> second_thought, sure
[16:32] <celthunder> second_thought, type and model of router?
[16:33] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: is firefox set to "auto-detect proxy settings for this network", or "automatic proxy configuration url"?
[16:33] <second_thought> verizon dls 6100
[16:33] <TonyTheTiger> auto detect
[16:33] <mattgyver> !partial upgrade
[16:33] <alex1> how i can set to that application can run only a root ?
[16:33] <alex1> all ?
[16:33] <TonyTheTiger> LjL-Temp: its auto detect, not the url config one.
[16:33] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: ok
[16:34] <Halitech> second_thought, you could check here ... http://portforward.com/
[16:34] <second_thought> I already setup the router connected to dsl line to forward the ip I want and the port range.
[16:34] <mattgyver> alex you can set that in the properties of the application, i dont remember how through command line
[16:34] <second_thought> thanks
[16:34] <alex1> mattgyver: i want to set it all
[16:34] <alex1> nope
[16:34] <alex1> dont need it bye
[16:35] <tatters> what the syntax to copy a file to the disklabel rather than mountpoint
[16:35] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: look, load any website, and while it's loading, quickly send a "netstat -n" command
[16:35] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: that will list all your open connections - hopefully including the one to your proxy. you will have to guess which one that might be (look for LAN-like addresses)
[16:35] <eper3z> how do i add my jaunty upgrade to grub?
[16:35] <Pici> eper3z : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[16:36] <eper3z> ok ty
[16:37] <second_thought> ah ha, I'm just stupid. The reason the portforwarding isn't working is probably cuz I can't even set it with the dsl router. Darn, time to call verizon...
[16:38] <pragad1> comoplete noob here with ubuntu installed just yesterday. i have to get some animation software working in ubuntu.but i see that i could not even turn on the visual effects in system>preferences>appearance>visual effects.ubuntu searches for drivers and does not find them .my graphic card is intel 945g
[16:38] <second_thought> exit
[16:38] <second_thought> hoops...
[16:38] <second_thought> not the command line
[16:41] <docmax> when  i disable GDM ubuntu works in a strange way (drives are not automounted, sounds are not working)... but i want to start ubuntu via "startx", any ideas?
[16:42] <pragad1> docmax ubuntu is not able to find drivers for intel 945 g help
[16:42] <darkvertex> docmax: change default runlevel?
[16:43] <pacejr> docmax: i bet you need to add things to your x session
[16:43] <docmax> darkvertex, can u be more precise?
[16:43] <docmax> what must i do?
[16:44] <TonyTheTiger> What is the command to open a file which requires admin rights from a terminal, something gedit or something.
[16:44] <pragad1> pacejr help
[16:44] <pepperjack> TonyTheTiger: sudo nano filename
[16:44] <pepperjack> TonyTheTiger: basically nano or vi or any text editor
[16:44] <celthunder> TonyTheTiger, sudeo vi
[16:44] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: or gksudo gedit filename
[16:44] <pragad1> ubuntu not able to find drivers for my graphic card pacejr help
[16:44] <celthunder> pragad1, what graphics card?
[16:44] <pacejr> pragad1: X should automatically detect
[16:44] <pragad1> intel 945g
[16:45] <clever> celthunder: 'sudo vi' is bad, use sudoedit
[16:45] <TonyTheTiger> thanks to everyone.
[16:45] <pragad1> what is x
[16:45] <pragad1> i am unable to enable normal viusal effects
[16:45] <pragad1> ubuntu says unable to turn on desktop effects.
[16:45] <celthunder> clever, using vi as root is bad? since when?  how do you configure your system without vi?
[16:46] <TonyTheTiger> ok i opened a text editor one, says ^X to exit, but it wont exit.
[16:46] <odinsbane> pragad1 what type of wireless card are you using?
[16:46] <LjL> clever: well, it's as bad as "sudo nano" or "gksudo gedit".
[16:46] <hbekel> docmax: probably you'll need to have hal and dbus running, as well as start gnome using exec gnome-session from your .xinitrc
[16:46] <odinsbane> pragad1: I mean video card
[16:46] <clever> celthunder: using it your way runs vi as root, with your own home dir, which can screw up your vi config
[16:46] <LjL> TonyTheTiger: it means CTRL+X
[16:46] <Pici> !x | pragad1
[16:46] <pragad1> odinsbane intel 945 g
[16:46] <clever> celthunder: 'sudoedit' will run vi as your own user, which solves that problem and several others
[16:46] <odinsbane> pragad1: I have the same trouble are you using jaunty?
[16:46] <docmax> hbekel, so switching off GDM is not that easy?
[16:46] <pragad1> no ibex
[16:47] <celthunder> clever, good to know thanks
[16:47] <pragad1> jaunty hasnt come out yet has it
[16:47] <hbekel> docmax: no idea, i don't use either
[16:47] <Pici> pragad1: No, it hasn't.
[16:47] <thiebaude> pragad1: thursday
[16:47] <clever> celthunder: sudoedit will simply run whatever you put in EDITOR, so you could set that to any editor you want
[16:47] <clever> celthunder: read the man page :)
[16:47] <Pici> clever, celthunder: as will visudo
[16:47] <hwilde> how do I test the ethernet port link speed please ?
[16:47] <odinsbane> pragad1: not officially, I think that compiz blacklisted the 945g because otherwise it causes your computer to crash.
[16:47] <pragad1> odinsbane jaunty hasnt come out yet
[16:48] <Pici> !jaunty
[16:48] <clever> Pici: visudo is for editing the sudoers file, not editing just any old file
[16:48] <Pici> clever: indeed.
[16:48] <pragad1> what compiz blacklisted what does it mean
[16:48] <pragad1> odinsbane what do i do
[16:48] <odinsbane> pragad1: well type compize from teh command line and see what error you get.
[16:48] <TonyTheTiger> im trying to edit the /etc/bash.bashrc file so that I can add into it -->export “http_proxy=http://proxy_server_ip:port
[16:49] <TonyTheTiger> where would i place that line?
[16:49] <miracle2k> If I want to run OpenVZ on jaunty, what is my best option? Is there a PPA for the kernel maybe?
[16:49] <odinsbane> pragad1: I think you need an older driver for your video card, though I haven't bothered to solve the problem.
[16:49] <odinsbane> pragad1: are you running 64bit?
[16:49] <Pici> miracle2k : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[16:49] <LjL> TonyTheTiger, follow this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Setting up apt-get to use a http-proxy
[16:50] <pragad1> odinsbane this is 32 bit version ubuntu
[16:50] <benc1> what IM client on ubuntu support webcam? I think that pidgin doesn't
[16:50] <vellox> tenho um problema quando deligo meu notebook
[16:50] <phisher1> benc1: skype
[16:50] <Pici> !br | vellox
[16:50] <WNz> Hey everyone. I don't mean to pester and people have probably asked already, but is Jaunty being released at midnight or later in the day?
[16:50] <vellox> to usando o ubuntu 9.04
[16:50] <vellox> ok
[16:50] <Pici> WNz: When its done, more questions in #ubuntu+1
[16:51] <pragad1> odinsbane i typed compiz in terminal and it says checking for xgl: not present
[16:51] <benc1> phisher1: thanks
[16:51] <WNz> Pici: huh?
[16:51] <Patrick904> I get static in my speakers every time someone logs on, in Pidgin.
[16:52] <WNz> what's #ubuntu+1?
[16:52] <whattey> 9.04
[16:52] <Pici> WNz: The Jaunty channel until Jaunty is released.
[16:52] <WNz> ah ok
[16:52] <Pici> !Jaunty
[16:52] <thiebaude> WNz: 9.04 support channel
[16:52] <benc1> I have a logitec webcam. Do I need to install a driver or anything on ubuntu?
[16:53] <nera_eloc> benc1 which one do you have?
[16:54] <ubuntu> anyone have a minute to listen to a ubuntu problem i have?
[16:54] <harrach_> ubuntu: i am listening
[16:54] <odinsbane> pragad1 you can check here if you like ... http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Blacklist
[16:54] <benc1>  nera_eloc: not sure. there is no wrtings on it
[16:54] <pragad1> odinsbane thanks will come back after checking
[16:54] <odinsbane> pragad1: they tell you how to get around the blacklist stuff
[16:55] <Trunkz> Does anyone know if Ubuntu 9.04 will support ps3vram as swap?
[16:55] <ubuntu> i have win xp..downloaded the ubuntu iso and made a disc.installed and now i have a blank screen
[16:55] <Pici> Trunkz : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[16:55] <Trunkz> thanks Pici
[16:55] <harrach_> ubtuntu: what happens first when you boot your system with the ubuntu disc inside?
[16:56] <ubuntu> it gave me option to choose windows or ubuntu..the first time..now i cant even get to my bios
[16:56] <celthunder> ubuntu ..ctrl+alt+f2 does that get you to a terminal at least
[16:56] <TonyTheTiger> LjL-Temp: Thanks for the help (and to others). I worked it out.
[16:56] <harrach_> ubuntu: and have you tried booting without any disc in?
[16:57] <ubuntu> yes.doesnt give me any options.just boots by itself and goes to blank screen..no signal to the monitor
[16:57] <docmax> can someone give me a guide how to disable GDM without loosing functionality in gnome?
[16:57] <pragad1> hello pici u around
[16:57] <Supavisah> It feels like the next release has been on the "1 day to go" for like a week!
[16:57] <Supavisah> What many hours is it now?
[16:57] <WNz> docmax: not possible...
[16:58] <Pici> pragad1: I am.
[16:58] <JackWat> ubuntu: does your computer still POST?
[16:58] <harrach_> ubuntu: and if you start the computer and press the "del" key, do you see the bios?
[16:58] <Pici> !party > Supavisah
[16:58] <Supavisah> Thanks.
[16:58] <WNz> docmax: GDM = Gnome Display Manager
[16:58] <pragad1> pici you have any idea about this intel 945g and  ubuntu
[16:58] <Pici> pragad1: I don't, sorry.
[16:58] <ubuntu> no bios, and i believe the post beep is still there..im at work and not close to the pc
[16:58] <docmax> so am i forced to go into gnome in ubuntu?
[16:59] <celthunder> docmax, no
[16:59] <harrach_> ubuntu: do you have a recovery cd for windows?
[16:59] <thiebaude> pragad1: whats wrong with it?
[16:59] <ubuntu> yes i have the cd
[16:59] <alakoo> docmax:  you can apt-get install / remove kde and gnome any time
[16:59] <harrach_> ubuntu: you should first reinstall windows and then try the ubuntu live cd without installing
[16:59] <vigo> docmax: No, xfce,KDE and others are compatible and can be used.
[16:59] <JackWat> ubuntu: if you cant see your loading up splash screen, it sounds like you have a hardware issue.
[16:59] <ubuntu> tried to boot from the win xp cd and still goes blank screen with no options to get to bios
[16:59] <pragad1> thiebaude  ubuntu is unable to fin drivers for it
[17:00] <docmax> i dont want to remove gnome
[17:00] <celthunder> docmax you can have multiple des on the same system.
[17:00] <docmax> but i want to go into it anytime i want, without loosing functionality
[17:00] <harrach_> ubuntu: that sounds horrible. maybe F10 or other keys bring you to the bios?
[17:00] <WNz> docmax: you are talking impossible situations
[17:00] <JackWat> ubuntu: i would mash a bunch of buttons as soon as you power on the machine and wait till you get to the bios
[17:00] <WNz> if you remove it, you can't go back to it without reinstalling it
[17:00] <WNz> what's wrong with gnome
[17:00] <vigo> docmaxx: you don't have to. I run some KDE stuff in Gnome, and have done it the other way.
[17:00] <JackWat> ubuntu: try del, delete, F12, F2
[17:01] <WNz> ?*
[17:01] <ubuntu> its an asus mb and im supposed to hold delete, will fdisk work from floppy to reinstall?
[17:01] <nickUK`> Hi
[17:01] <nickUK`> Anyone running the new Ubuntu 9.04
[17:01] <JackWat> If you cant get to your bios there is a bigger issue. :O
[17:01] <celthunder> NickUK`, yes
[17:01] <docmax> disabling GDM works for me!  but i dont unterstand why some things are not working anymore
[17:01] <NickUK`> Such an improvement :P
[17:01] <thiebaude> NickUK`: i'am
[17:02] <celthunder> docmax like what?
[17:02] <NickUK`> You finding it an improvement?
[17:02] <TonyTheTiger> Whats so great about the new ubuntu?
[17:02] <deagle> does anyone here run any half-life games on wine?
[17:02] <WNz> docmax: ...
[17:02] <harrach_> jackwat: do you think it is possible that the installation process has hurt the bios?
[17:02] <miracle2k> what's the reason that there's no openvz kernel in intrepid/jaunty?
[17:02] <TonyTheTiger> why should someone upgrade?
[17:02] <musikgoat|main> harrach_: no way
[17:02] <celthunder> TonyTheTiger, cause we like up to date things?
[17:02] <AlexFera> Nickukl: bootime
[17:02] <NickUK`> Well, There are new things, Boot screen, Login Screen, Everything runs smoother, Everything runs faster
[17:02] <ubuntu> ty.will try that when i get home..thx for the info
[17:02] <docmax> celthunder, for example system sounds are not working
[17:02] <NickUK`> Boottime is better
[17:02] <AlexFera> yes
[17:02] <celthunder> docmax alsa running?
[17:02] <docmax> or automounting
[17:02] <tanveer> i need some help
[17:03] <WNz> docmax: if you kill gdm, you drop to a terminal...
[17:03] <NickUK`> I booted my gaming machine up about 5 seconds be for my Linux Laptop and laptop is only 1 Core at 1.75Ghz and the Ubuntu booted long be for the Vista
[17:03] <vigo> docmaxx: Many things are dependent on one or another, I just use KDE stuff inside the Gnome shell. I think it works the other way around also.
[17:03] <celthunder> docmax, automounting is done by an applet in X...im pretty sure so you need to manually mount ...its 1 line not that bad...
[17:03] <macvr> docmax: system sound dont work properly... u have to update the libcannera
[17:03] <NickUK`> I have yet to try my Graphics as i did have graphics problems :P
[17:03] <tanveer> can someone please help me??
[17:04] <docmax> it seems GDM is running a lot of stuff before starting gnome
[17:04] <harrach_> tanveer: i am listening
[17:04] <musikgoat|main> !ask | tanveer
[17:04] <docmax> i need a list to run them manually
[17:04] <Mint`> !ask | tanveer
[17:04] <tanveer> well on windows you see... i use to use windows movie maker all the time, now that im linux what should i use?
[17:04] <WNz> docmax: what are you trying to accomplish?
[17:05] <Enissay> how to send a message to a pc in same network, both pc are using ubuntu?
[17:05] <macvr> tanveer: to edit videos? u can use avidemux
[17:05] <tanveer> is it like windows movies maker?
[17:05] <docmax> WNz, when starting gnome via STARTX command, to have the SAME desktop like starting from GDM
[17:05] <kane77> how can I create ramdrive in ubuntu?
[17:05] <celthunder> Enissay, ssh in and make a broadcast?
[17:05] <docmax> as i said its not the same, things are missing
[17:05] <kane77> tanveer, you can also try kino for easy video editing
[17:06] <disappearedng> Unable to find a javac compiler; Perhaps JAVA_HOME does not point to the JDK. It is currently set to "/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.10/jre" => How do I fix this?
[17:06] <Enissay> celthunder, huh!!! i want just to send text message
[17:06] <WNz> docmax: what are you trying to accomplish?
[17:06] <kane77> disappearedng, do you have jdk installed?
[17:06] <vigo> tanveer: Is really your choice, that is the fun of Linux, Totem,Kino , LillyPond, and about 100 others for that, google FSF directory
[17:06] <disappearedng> how do I find out
[17:06] <tanveer> whats better avidemux (Qt) or avidemux (GTK +)
[17:06] <docmax> WNz, when starting gnome via STARTX command, to have the SAME desktop like starting from GDM
[17:08] <musikgoat|main> tanveer: depends if you are using gnome or kde, if you installed ubuntu (not kubuntu) then you are using gnome, and you would want the gtk version
[17:08] <kane77> tanveer, depends on what you use (gnome/kde)
[17:08] <vigo> !best
[17:08] <disappearedng> kane77:how do I find out
[17:08] <tanveer> so gnome is ubuntu?
[17:08] <celthunder> Enissay, ssh <ip> <port> login, then wall <message>
[17:08] <macvr> tanveer: u are using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[17:08] <hbekel> docmax: pastebin your .xinitrc
[17:08] <musikgoat|main> no, ubuntu uses gnome desktop manager
[17:08] <macvr> tanveer: ubuntu > gnome / kubuntu> KDE
[17:09] <IHS_intern> (ubuntu) with gnome is ubuntu. (ubuntu) with KDE is kubuntu. (ubuntu) with XFCE is xubuntu.
[17:09] <tanveer> im on ubuntu
[17:09] <daurn> I recently upgraded from 7.10 to 8.10
[17:09] <daurn> everything seems fine
[17:09] <RPS> Hello Guys, I've been running 8.10 on a laptop for several months and with 9.04 out there I'm considering my options. Do I install it on this laptop or do I put 9.04 on my other 64bit laptop? I had a guy mention that he "thought" it was suggested to use the October releases on laptops. That's the first time I had heard that, but the 64 bit machine has me thinking about putting Jaunty on it ...is there a 64 bit version of Jaunty availabl
[17:09] <RPS> e?
[17:09] <daurn> except my keyboard
[17:09] <macvr> the use the GTK+ version
[17:09] <musikgoat|main> IHS_intern explained it best tanveer
[17:09] <celthunder> tanveer, ubuntu is ubuntu a desktop environment is not an os
[17:09] <daurn> many buttons don't work as they use to
[17:09] <macvr> tanveer: use the gtk+version
[17:09] <tanveer> okay thanks
[17:09] <kane77> disappearedng, did you install or not?
[17:09] <docmax> hbekel, its the default one#
[17:09] <daurn> (both shortcut keys, eg, media player, calculuator, etc, as well as backspace in some terminals (eg, not in screen anymore))
[17:09] <vigo> tanveer: No, Gnome is a desktop choice. It is like the default for Ubuntu,you are free to choose whichever or whatever you like or prefer.
[17:10] <TonyTheTiger> Yo has anyone installed php5 alonside mysql on ubuntu?
[17:10] <disappearedng> kane77 I think I have
[17:10] <daurn> I've checked in KeyTouch, and it still has all my correct setings
[17:10] <TonyTheTiger> here
[17:10] <tanveer> 1 more question can i install linux ubuntu on A PS3?
[17:10] <hbekel> docmax: i don't have ubuntu here
[17:10] <docmax> there is no .xinitrc in my home dir
[17:10] <sirjoebob> tanveer: Google is your friend :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316047
[17:11] <WNz> TonyTheTiger: I have
[17:11] <musikgoat|main> tanveer: PS3 has a different CPU architecture, and I don't believe there have been any variants or ubuntu made for the cell architecture, so no
[17:11] <WNz> TonyTheTiger: What do you need?
[17:11] <tuomas_> hey
[17:11] <musikgoat|main> s/or/of
[17:11] <IHS_intern> tanveer:yes. but you need an install CD made for the PS3, and I don't think PowerPC is supported officially anymore(ended right before new PPC systems came out, lol)
[17:11] <TonyTheTiger> WNz: I am on the last part of a tutorial setting up mysql.
[17:11] <homy> Hi! IS there something (as easy but yet powerfull) like Windows MovieMaker for ubuntu linux?
[17:11] <tanveer> what about linux yellow dog?
[17:11] <WNz> TonyTheTiger: and?
[17:11] <hbekel> docmax: do you have /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc?
[17:12] <TonyTheTiger> WNz: The tutorial says the line in the config file which i am meant to put in...extension=mysql.so
[17:12] <EagleScreen> RPS: be more explicit
[17:12] <vigo> !multimedia
[17:12] <TonyTheTiger> WNz: However I couldnt find that exact line, i found however extension=msql.so
[17:12] <musikgoat|main> tanveer: thats not a question for here, google it
[17:12] <TonyTheTiger> WNz: so im a little confused whats what.
[17:13] <WNz> TonyTheTiger: see pm
[17:13] <vigo> homy: Look at FSF/directory or Debian or Ubuntu ports page.
[17:13] <tanveer> but isnt linux ubuntu the same as linux yellow dog?
[17:13] <musikgoat|main> tanveer:
[17:13] <musikgoat|main> no
[17:14] <RPS> EagleScreen, thanks. The guy that mentioned keeping October releases on laptops ...He was not being a jerk, but said that he thought it was better to stay with .10 releases on laptops ...is he correct or not?
[17:14] <Pici> tanveer: No
[17:14] <musikgoat|main> tanveer: yellow dog is a variant of redhat
[17:14] <docmax> hbekel, http://pastebin.com/m620ad56c
[17:14] <homy> vigo: where is that?
[17:14] <sirjoebob> tanveer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Dog_Linux
[17:14] <vigo> homy: one sec,
[17:14] <Pici> !ot
[17:15] <tanveer> oh
[17:15] <EagleScreen> I don't know any reason for it, RPS
[17:15] <tanveer> does ubuntu support old dells?
[17:15] <IHS_intern> Musikgoat|main There's a third party I think supporting the PS3, and Cell is PowerPC compat. and there are kernel extensions for the SPEs
[17:15] <vigo> homy: http://directory.fsf.org/ that is FSF directory
[17:15] <Pici> !requirements > tanveer
[17:15] <homy> thanks vigo, I'll check
[17:16] <con-man> ok Im getting this message when running the windows Contivity VPN client with wine (and yes I have to do this the natvie linux one is not an option): Eacfilt driver must be bound to active interface(s): eth0
[17:16] <IHS_intern> Third party supporting Ubuntu on the PS3*
[17:16] <con-man> does anyone have ideas?
[17:16] <geoffrey> hum?
[17:17] <musikgoat|main> IHS_intern: interesting, i'm not aware of that,  i didn't think the ubuntu built kernel has cell support, so they must be using a different kernel build
[17:17] <stephen_> Hi. Is there a netbook specific channel?
[17:17] <george_> oh noooo! To get adobe air installed i coppied 32 bit libs to my /libs32 folder (im 64bit ubuntu) now when i run the flock browser (which everything used to work) i get flashplayer.so [/opt/flock/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64] Segmentation fault
[17:17] <george_> and it just crashes
[17:17] <stephen_> I'd like to know how the netbook remix differs from the desktop edition.
[17:17] <MrNaz`> OI!
[17:18] <MrNaz`> where's 9.04?!
[17:18]  * MrNaz` looks under the bed
[17:18] <musikgoat|main> stephen_: i've visited #eeepc  for netbook discussions, but that is not ubuntu specific
[17:18] <RPS> EagleScreen, is there a 64 bit version of Jaunty? I assume so, but you know what they say about assuming.
[17:18] <musikgoat|main> RPS: yes
[17:18] <celthunder> RPS, yes theres a 64 bit
[17:18] <EagleScreen> yes
[17:18] <IHS_intern> musikgoat|main,  yeah, I think it's a different kernel. But to anyone using it from the GUI, it's just ubuntu on the PS3.
[17:19] <stephen_> musikgoat|main: I'll ask in there. Thanks.
[17:19] <IHS_intern> and the CLI not using features to actually say what kernel..still just ubuntu on the PS3.
[17:19] <EagleScreen> there is power pc port of ubuntu for PS3
[17:19] <tanveer> i tried ubuntu on my old computer with only 128mb ram and ubuntu said thers not enough memory?
[17:19] <frostburn> how do i reload my window manager, by the by
[17:19] <papa> bonsoir
[17:19] <harrach_> i have tried to run xubuntu 9.04 release candidate from the live cd but the booting process stopped with something like 'power-k8 no dsp' or so and then 'loading, please wait...' and nothing happening
[17:19] <RPS> cool I have been waiting to do the 2nd laptop until Jaunty came out ....now how much do leave for Vista64 and Ubuntu64 ??? (Cue Jeopardy Theme) 250gb HDD.
[17:20] <IHS_intern> Tanveer, xubuntu runs fine on 256MB, and "ok" on 196MB..and would run on 128.
[17:20] <EagleScreen> tanveer: it is not enought memory, try xubuntu
[17:20] <IHS_intern> Gnome is a bit of a hog
[17:20] <tanveer> okay
[17:20] <RPS> I'm thinking 249gb for Ubuntu64 and 1 gb for Vista. ;) I'm kidding
[17:20] <tanveer> do you recommend i get 512mb ram?
[17:20] <WNz> tanveer: i don't think 128 is enough for xubuntu either
[17:20] <celthunder> tanveer try awesome or lxfce or xfce instead of gnome
[17:20] <mLavaert> Does Ubuntu 8.04 LTS x64 support 12GB of DD3 RAM
[17:21] <WNz> tanveer: you're better off ditching the old computer ;)
[17:21] <tanveer> but my main computer only has 2gb ram
[17:21] <george_> oh noooo! To get adobe air installed i coppied 32 bit libs to my /libs32 folder (im 64bit ubuntu) now when i run the flock browser (which everything used to work) i get flashplayer.so [/opt/flock/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64] Segmentation fault
[17:21] <RPS> 150gb for Ubuntu and  100gb for Vista64 ...I'm running 4 gb of ram ...I think it will be ok.
[17:21] <IHS_intern> WNz, as I said, xubuntu will run on 128MB of RAM, but wouldn't be comfortable untill 256. and The school I'm "working" for is using 600mhz Pentium 3's upgraded to 256MB of RAM.
[17:22] <frostburn> mLavaert, yes, but does your motherboard
[17:22] <WNz> tanveer: nothing wrong with 2 gb ram
[17:22] <tanveer> butit was 256mb ram when i bought it
[17:22]  * regeya remembers running slack on 8mb...ah...
[17:22] <WNz> IHS_intern: i tried it with that little and it ran like crap
[17:22] <mLavaert> frostburn: Yes, it does - it's an Gigabyte i7 motherboard
[17:23] <tanveer> whats better windows vista or linux ubuntu?
[17:23] <geoffrey> lol
[17:23] <mLavaert> Ubuntu Linux
[17:23] <musikgoat|main> mLavaert: what do you have that would really use 12GB ram?
[17:23] <frostburn> frostburn, you can run a comiz-manager&;disown (yes i messaged myself incase someone greps the irc logs)
[17:23] <RPS> time for a reboot ...I lose my audio every couple of days on 8.10 ...it stinks
[17:23] <vigo> I run Xubuntu on 256mb of RAM, (1998 AMS Tech lapt)
[17:23] <frostburn> tanveer, depends on what the system is being used for
[17:23] <harrach_> tanveer: windows 7 might be comparable, but vista is trash
[17:23] <musikgoat|main> !best | tanveer
[17:23] <tstreit> ubuntu linux all the way
[17:23] <WNz> mLavaert: a better question is why anyone would need 12 gb of ram
[17:23] <mLavaert> musikgoat: I work a lot with Blender
[17:24] <frostburn> harrach_, it isn't trash, I use it as much as I use any other distro
[17:24] <IHS_intern> WNz, runs smoothly for me. But I'm not running anything but Firefox and OpenOffice that might eat a lot of resources. and 384MB of vram helps a bit...not much, but better with than without.
[17:24] <musikgoat|main> mLavaert: ok, reasonable then
[17:24] <Daemonus> how much ram ubuntu 32bit can handle?
[17:24] <Daemonus> 4 gig?
[17:24] <WNz> tanveer: linux and winblows are pretty much uncomparible
[17:24] <celthunder> Daemonus, yes
[17:24] <tanveer> if i asked bill gates what is better ubuntu or vista what would he say?
[17:24] <frostburn> Daemonus, with PAE, a lot more than 4
[17:24] <WNz> though i have to say 7 is looking much better than previous versions
[17:24] <geoffrey> if you want to clean your system: dpkg -l | grep ^rc | awk '{print $2}' | xargs dpkg -P
[17:24] <WNz> tanveer: that's a biased question
[17:24] <italo33> alguém do Brasil aí?
[17:24] <Daemonus> cheers
[17:24] <harrach_> tanveer: after five beers, bill gates would say ubuntu.
[17:24] <frostburn> Daemonus, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[17:25] <mLavaert> 32 systems support 3,2 gb
[17:25] <mLavaert> of ram
[17:25] <italo33> e aí blz?
[17:25] <tanveer> what would be better windows 7 or ubuntu?
[17:25] <geoffrey> relol
[17:25] <celthunder> WNz, i have 8gb and 12gb in both my coputers ... ive used 11 out of 12 and 7 out of 8.... it isnt hard to fill up ram
[17:25] <mLavaert> tanveer: Ubuntu
[17:25] <tanveer> ok
[17:25] <harrach_> tanveer: what do you use your pc for?
[17:25] <tanveer> word office , homework, some old games, internet and that stuff
[17:26] <mLavaert> celthunder: Is it DDR3 memory, if yes do had you any troubles with it?
[17:26] <IHS_intern> tanveer, depends on needs. if you need 99.8% compat with windows software and it is absolutely critical, go with win7.
[17:26] <harrach_> tanveer: both operating systems will work for you. the advantage of ubuntu is that it is free and you can always upgrade it for free.
[17:26] <bercik> Somebody of You tried "ati" driver with games on Wine?
[17:26] <celthunder> mLavaert, No, its ddr2 im working on getting a system with ddr3
[17:26] <gartral> alright..... my gfx card makes it so ubuntu will not boot, it keeps complaining about the hard drive, saying I/O errors at logical block.. xxxxx
[17:26] <unitedpotsmokers> guys, good morning. can someone tell me what this command "sudo apt-get -f install". when i type it in terminal it show The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[17:26] <unitedpotsmokers>   desktop-base libarts1c2a libartsc0 liblzo1 libboost-program-options1.34.1 libexiv2-4 libsoup2.2-8 librasqal0 libclamav5 libx264-59 libcaptury0 libmjpegtools0c2a libdvdread3
[17:26] <unitedpotsmokers>   libcapseo0 libimlib2
[17:26] <unitedpotsmokers> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. So izzit save for me to remove all of them?
[17:26] <FloodBot2> unitedpotsmokers: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:26] <celthunder> bercik ive played cs:s with wine and ati drivers
[17:27] <tanveer> ATM i am multi booting xp and ubuntu, when windows 7 comes out should i get rid of xp and multi boot windows 7 with ubuntu
[17:27] <musikgoat|main> unitedpotsmokers: what happens when you "sudo apt-get autoremove "
[17:27] <bercik> celthunder: and what could You say about performance?
[17:27] <celthunder> tanveer depends on your specs
[17:27] <geoffrey> dpkg -l | grep ^rc | awk '{print $2}' | xargs dpkg -P
[17:27] <george_> how do i uninstall a package?
[17:27] <harrach_> tanveer why not keeping them all three on your hard disc and try them all out?
[17:27] <geoffrey> aptitude install your_package
[17:28] <musikgoat|main> george_: sudo apt-get remove <packagename>
[17:28]  * jeanseb is away: Away
[17:28] <stickboy> I'm trying to set up LAMP using 8.10 desktop for a test server for a mysql database. I used this guide http://albertux.ayalasoft.com/2008/11/10/lamp-on-ubuntu-810-desktop-edition/ . When I try to use the login.html screen we made, when I hit login instead of executing the script it asks if I want to save or open it instead. found this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=618525 but it hasn't helped. any ideas?
[17:28] <tanveer> but i dont like old software and i also hate paying for stuff
[17:28] <musikgoat|main> george_: if you want to remove all user configurations, then use purge instead of remove
[17:28] <celthunder> bercik i got about 140 fps in wine about 200 in vmware and 360 when i was running straight from windows....anything over 75 i dont see anyway (cheap monitor) only bad thing is my surround sound dont work in wine
[17:28] <gartral> tanveer: note, nothing can exist on the same DRIVE as windows 7, and the boot loader will not allow a dual-boot, in short, no, you should keep XP
[17:28] <harrach_> tanveer if you hate paying, then use ubuntu
[17:28] <yellabs> hi there
[17:29] <IHS_intern> If you need an OS that browses the web, plays games, edits images, and has 40-80% compat. with windows software, oh, and doesn't cost any money to stay up-to-date and doesnt cost a lot to get the software you need, go with ubuntu.
[17:29] <gartral> alright..... my gfx card makes it so ubuntu will not boot, it keeps complaining about the hard drive, saying I/O errors at logical block.. xxxxx
[17:29] <musikgoat|main> !hi | yellabs
[17:29] <harrach_> tanveer you only need windows if you want to run m$ office and some games
[17:29] <yellabs> is it normal for brasero to alway's create an checksum, and can i turn it off?
[17:29] <unitedpotsmokers> musikgoat|main ::  i don't know. but i think it will remove that following components, but im not sure to remove or not. is it save for me to auto remove them?
[17:29] <itsme__> hello
[17:29] <celthunder> gartral not true...ive dual booted with windows 7
[17:29] <bercik> celthunder: its great. I am nut sure.. what should glxinfo say if i use "ati"?
[17:29] <musikgoat|main> unitedpotsmokers: yes
[17:30] <itsme__> I have an server on datacenter, and I want to join the list of mirror, how I can Did it?
[17:30] <dstrbdfrk1> hey guys my windows are maimizing too big for my screen anyoene help... ive searched the forums and i cant come up with anything
[17:30] <unitedpotsmokers> musikgoat|main :: thx :) love u
[17:30] <yellabs> lspci should show your ati in the list..
[17:30] <musikgoat|main> unitedpotsmokers: those are dependencies that are no longer needed (like if you uninstalled something that needed those before)
[17:30] <gartral> alright..... my gfx card makes it so ubuntu will not boot, it keeps complaining about the hard drive, saying I/O errors at logical block.. xxxxx
[17:30] <frostburn> harrach_, there's plenty of reasons to use windows, there are plenty of in house software that only runs in windows
[17:30] <celthunder> dstrbdfrk1, make your resolution higher?
[17:30] <unitedpotsmokers> musikgoat|main :: understand now...
[17:30] <unitedpotsmokers> musikgoat|main :: thx a lot
[17:30] <musikgoat|main> sure
[17:31] <tanveer> but since i have 2 harddrives what if i install windows 7 black edition (Free somehow) and i install ubuntu on the other harddrive after i install windows 7 , would it work?
[17:31] <frostburn> gartral, if these errors only happened after you put in you card, make sure the ide/sata cables didn't get bent or dislodged
[17:31] <dstrbdfrk1> celthunder:dont have the option it was ok untill i installed updates
[17:31] <musikgoat|main> tanveer: yes
[17:31] <tanveer> so i have to use grub?
[17:31] <musikgoat|main> yes
[17:31] <gartral> frostburn: i wouldnt be able to boot a live cd to talk to you if the cables were ajar
[17:31] <musikgoat|main> windows boot loader doesn't understand linux partitions
[17:32] <dstrbdfrk1> celthunder: already at highest... it was fin untill i installed updates
[17:32] <musikgoat|main> tanveer: you have to use grub or lilo
[17:32] <yellabs> easybcd does , thats an windows based bootlaoder
[17:32] <tanveer> when win7 comes out is linux/grub thingy going to get loads of updates?
[17:32] <musikgoat|main> or follow yellabs suggestion
[17:32] <hitsmaxft> #ubuntu-cn
[17:32] <frostburn> gartral, are they on the same ide ribbon? and at what location.  if you remove the card, it boots fine?
[17:32] <pepperjack> tanveer: id say the win7 bootloader will just be a rehash of vistas
[17:32] <frostburn> tanveer, i doubt it
[17:33] <gartral> frostburn: no, it doesnt, i tryed, i hoe to god my drive isnt screwed up
[17:33] <Kijuo> salut
[17:33] <musikgoat|main> tanveer: grub can already load windows 7
[17:33] <babio> i guys i've a big problem....i have two hd, in one i have vista and in the other i have ubuntu....how can i configure grub to start also vista??? please help me
[17:33] <frostburn> gartral, that was my next thought, something could have been hit
[17:33] <gartral> hope*
[17:33] <EagleScreen> !grub
[17:33] <con-man> anyone know how to bind a network protocol to eth0 using wine?  in windows I just right click the network connection and go to properties to add one
[17:33] <yellabs> babio , reinstall grub
[17:34] <tanveer> atm i have windows xp black edition running on a pc with 128mb howcome linux cant?
[17:34] <tanveer> 128mb ram*
[17:34] <yellabs> tanveer, ram is cheap
[17:34] <gordonjcp> tanveer: you can run Linux in 128M of RAM
[17:34] <gartral> frostburn: well, the drive mounted from knoppix ok
[17:34] <babio> yellabs: how can i do that...could u explain to me?
[17:34] <frostburn> tanveer, run DSL or similar distro
[17:34] <yellabs> tanveer, the gui of any modern operating system is heavy
[17:34] <gordonjcp> tanveer: however, for it to work well it would need to be a fairly stripped-down version
[17:34] <frostburn> gartral, can it read all files though? there might be bad sectors
[17:34] <musikgoat|main> tanveer: xp regular edition cant, just like ubuntu regular editions cant... someone already suggested others for you
[17:34] <gordonjcp> tanveer: don't forget that Windows XP is really very old and obsolete now
[17:35] <frostburn> gartral, run a fsck on it, if you're in knoppix
[17:35] <bercik> Guys, what sould glxinfo say about vendor if i use "ati" drivers?
[17:35] <JackWat> i still use winxp
[17:35] <JackWat> i'd use winxp over vista any day
[17:35]  * gordonjcp hasn't used XP
[17:35] <yellabs> babio , what operating system does boot on that machine right now?
[17:35] <tanveer> i have ubuntu 8.10 atm how can i get the new ubuntu
[17:36] <babio> now boot only ubuntu and there isn't no entry in the grub about vista
[17:36] <pepperjack> tanveer: /msg ubottu upgrade
[17:36] <musikgoat|main> heh, guess i'm wrong, xp can run on 64mb of ram?  wow, thats got to suck
[17:36] <yellabs> tanveer, download and burn the iso , or upgrade
[17:36] <tanveer> how would i upgrade
[17:36] <JackWat> yeah 64mb is the lowest heh
[17:36] <gartral> frostburn: fsck is being tottally useless
[17:36] <carmen> does anyone know if 9.04 will fix some of problems that ubuntu have with atheros wireless cards?
[17:36] <Pici> tanveer : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[17:36] <musikgoat|main> !upgrade | tanveer
[17:36] <yellabs> babio, ok, one moment
[17:36] <Pici> !jaunty
[17:36] <enrico----> aiuto
[17:36] <enrico----> scheda wifi
[17:37] <yellabs> babio , you still have the ubuntu livecd to boot from?
[17:37] <gordonjcp> tanveer: not strictly relevant to Ubuntu, but I run Linux on several systems with 16M of memory
[17:37] <enrico----> atheros 242x
[17:37] <carmen> enrico, occhio che qui si parla inglese solo [i'm saying to enrico that he must talk english]
[17:37] <wortman> hey flash is kind of laggy, how do I fix it?
[17:37] <r3z> http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-users-domains-postfix-courier-mysql-squirrelmail-ubuntu8.10-p3
[17:37] <babio> yes i have it
[17:37] <gartral> frostburn: nvm pebkac moment
[17:37] <r3z> According to that howto how is spamassassin hooked into postfix?
[17:37] <stickboy> if i install xampp do i have to remove any previous php/mysq/apache on the machine?
[17:37] <musikgoat|main> wortman: complain to macromedia (j/k)
[17:38] <wortman> lol no I thought there was a fix like z buffer or something
[17:38] <musikgoat|main> wortman: i'm quite upset about it myself, it runs terrible on my eeepc
[17:38] <wortman> even in vista it isnt this bad
[17:38] <wortman> its horrid
[17:38] <babio> yellabs: yes i have it
[17:38] <musikgoat|main> wortman: the linux build of it is plain suck
[17:39] <gordonjcp> wortman: flash sucks in Linux
[17:39] <gordonjcp> wortman: I'm just kind of glad that flash is kind of dying out
[17:39] <musikgoat|main> i think adobe/macromedia just doesn't care
[17:39] <gartral> frostburn: should i mount the drive or not?
[17:39] <EagleScreen> tanveer: for taht amount of RAM do not use Ubuntu, use Debian + IceWM, or Debian + lxde http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/iso-cd/
[17:39] <gordonjcp> musikgoat|main: that's basically it
[17:39] <gordonjcp> tanveer: why not just add some more memory?
[17:39] <frostburn> gartral, negative, fsck should be run on unmounted drives
[17:39] <frostburn> drives/partitions
[17:40] <defreng> just a very stupid question: What locale do I need to get displayed just the strings that are just written in the source code of a gettext internationalized app?
[17:40] <gartral> frostburn: it keeps saying the drive MUST be mounted as a read/wright drive, AND run as root >.>
[17:40] <FernandoF> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-dev_2.8~20080505-0ubuntu9_i386.deb: falhou em buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1)
[17:40] <FernandoF> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.8~20080505-0ubuntu9_i386.deb: subprocesso pre-installation script retornou erro do status de saída 1
[17:40] <yellabs> i am looking at the grub manuals , is it not a simple command to reinstall grub?
[17:40] <FernandoF> some ideas how to solve?
[17:40] <gartral> frostburn: and then it goes on to warn that it could screw up the drive
[17:40] <yellabs> i kind of forgot...
[17:40] <yellabs> hehe
[17:40] <frostburn> gartral, can you pastebin your command
[17:41] <frostburn> gartral, do a $mount     is it mounted?
[17:41] <yellabs> sudo reinstall grub, was that it?
[17:41] <musikgoat|main> FernandoF: sudo apt-get update, then try again
[17:41] <EagleScreen> yellas add a windows to grub is very easy
[17:41] <FernandoF> musikgoat thx
[17:41] <gartral> frostburn: no, its not, i can see mount status on my desktop
[17:41] <defreng> or how can I provide a gettext default translation that will be used if the language is not available?
[17:41] <musikgoat|main> FernandoF: thats just a generic fix, but beyond that, i'm not sure
[17:43] <yellabs> would sudo grub-install do the trick, to find windows partitions and add it?
[17:43] <gartral> frostburn: http://gar.pastebin.com/m40610fbc
[17:44] <danbhfive> yellabs: I dont thinkk so
[17:44] <FernandoF> falhou a escrita do registo status cerca de `perl-base' a `/var/lib/dpkg/status': Dispositivo sem espaço livre
[17:44] <itsme__> excuse me, but how i can do an official mirror
[17:44] <Pici> !br | FernandoF
[17:44] <tetr> okay so i really messed up this time, ubuntu wont drops to busybox shell on startup.  just did the last update, says it cant find my root device.  web searches have failed me.  any help?
[17:45] <tetr> ubuntu wont drops = ubuntu drops
[17:45] <FernandoF> Pici Thx, but when one needs help is better to have it in English
[17:45] <Yellow_Fuzzy> itsme__: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/mirror
[17:45] <yellabs> babio, i guess its up to you to read the how to...
[17:45] <babio> yellabs: are u still there?
[17:45] <yellabs> !grub
[17:45] <Pici> FernandoF: And yet you didn't ask your question in english.
[17:45] <yellabs> ubottu shows the way
[17:46] <gartral> frostburn: pm or ping me, im getting coffee
[17:46] <itsme__> tanks yellow
[17:46] <Taznc> !xserver
[17:46] <Pici> !x | Taznc
[17:46] <FernandoF> fail writing  `perl-base' a `/var/lib/dpkg/status': Dispositif without free space
[17:46] <jfarmer> When I try to install postfix I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156022/
[17:46] <jfarmer> Any ideas?
[17:46] <frostburn> gartral, it says it's mounted, /dev/hda1 is mounted.    run a    umount /dev/hda1
[17:47] <FernandoF> Pici: my translation to fail is fail writing  `perl-base' a `/var/lib/dpkg/status': Dispositif without free space
[17:47] <unitedpotsmokers> hey guys, what player to play mp3 over network drive? i'm using rhytymbox, it wont play?
[17:47] <campee> it should..
[17:47] <yellabs> babio, as said read about it here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub#Overwriting%20the%20Windows%20bootloader
[17:47] <Pici> FernandoF: What is 'Dispositif' ?
[17:47] <yellabs> and if you cant figure it out, ask again here later...
[17:47] <campee> does it play mp3s on your hard drive?
[17:48] <yellabs> ok, diner is ready, bye all
[17:48] <babio> which step should i follow?
[17:48] <FernandoF> pici : it is my  translation to "dispositivo" which could be media or something elese
[17:48] <bercik> Guys, what sould glxinfo say about vendor if i use "ati" drivers?
[17:48] <jfarmer> When I try to install postfix I get an error "Unmatched [ in regex;", details here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156022/
[17:48] <yellabs> mp3 player audacious, exaile etc
[17:49] <neoTheCat> good afternoon.  i am running intrepid, with a SATA DVD drive, and playback is unusable.  and if i try setting DMA on, "hdparm -d1 /dev/scd0", i get "HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device", and the same for GET.
[17:49] <jfarmer> What's wrong and how do I fix it?
[17:49] <yellabs> xmms
[17:50] <Pici> FernandoF: Please re-run your command, but put 'LANG=C ' (without quotes) in front of it
[17:51] <RealRaven> hi, has there been a recent package upgrade that frequently hangs ibm/lenovo laptops (and perhaps others)
[17:51] <FernandoF> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[17:51] <FernandoF> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[17:51] <x-kent> hi, can someone recommend a weather forecast program that will tell(with voice) the weather every day at HH:MM time ? (like the famous nokia program if you know such)
[17:51] <FernandoF> Pici i pasted my new error message
[17:52] <Pici> FernandoF: run   sudo dpkg --configure -a   then
[17:52] <gartral> frostburn: ok, unmounted, now what? run fsck as user, or root?
[17:52] <campee> is anyone else afraid to upgrade their important systems to ubuntu 9? :(
[17:52] <JackWat> campee: nope
[17:52] <JackWat> hehe
[17:52] <JackWat> i will be backing up some stuff though. just incase
[17:52] <campee> so far the two systems that i've tried installing the RC on have had some issues
[17:52] <campee> i'm leaving my important desktop systems on ubuntu 8.10 for a while..
[17:53] <neoTheCat> campee: i really have no need to, so i am going to wait.  unless there is something major that i have to have, i'll wait
[17:53] <gartral> campee: after today, im afraid to try and use 8.10
[17:53] <campee> unless the version released tomorrow is much improved over the RC
[17:53] <tetr> my unbuntu cant make it past loading screen, drops to shell.  "Gave up waiting for root device...", "UUID=xyz does not exist...".  all i did was update :(
[17:53] <campee> gartral: why?
[17:53] <Pici> campee : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[17:53] <gartral> campee: my system just mega-crashed
[17:53] <RealRaven> gartral, whats your system? mine is crashing aswell
[17:54] <gartral> frostburn: should i still run fsck, and if yes, as user, or root?
[17:55] <frostburn> gartral, unmount the drive, and fsck as root
[17:55] <campee> gartral: and that's the fault of 8.10?
[17:55] <gartral> RealRaven: custom system, 1.7 ghz celeron CPU, 512 megs ram, 60 gig drive, and i just tryed giving it a geforce 6200 gfx card
[17:55] <RealRaven> oh
[17:56] <gartral> frost... worrysome... came back clean
[17:56] <RealRaven> cause both mine and my collueags computer hangs the recent days.. both are laptops and they just freeze, unresponsive and the capslock led blinks
[17:56] <gartral> frostburn: ... worrysome... came back clean
[17:56] <Daremonai> how can I find out the vulnerabilities on my ubuntu machine?
[17:56] <kaw> what do I apt-get for ldap client?
[17:57] <gartral> RealRaven: what model are they?
[17:57] <emile_> I just installed Ubuntu on a flashdrive, but how do I get GRUB (installed afterwards) to launch this installation?
[17:58] <FernandoF> Pici just did it  but now have E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-dev_2.8~20080505-0ubuntu9_i386.deb: falhou em buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1)
[17:58] <frostburn> gartral, try again with a fsck -f  /dev/hda1               -f does a force
[17:58] <Pici> FernandoF: How much free drive space do you have?
[17:59] <FernandoF> 500gb
[17:59] <chocobanana> Hi everyone!!!!
[17:59] <FernandoF> Pici 500 GB
[17:59] <Pici> FernandoF: That much free, or total?
[17:59] <RealRaven> gartral, ibm lenovo t60 and t400
[17:59] <FernandoF> how can i check?
[18:00] <chocobanana> can somebody tell me, if one installs Ubuntu 9.04 RC1, do you need to reinstall when the final version comes out to get all proper or this is nonsense?
[18:00] <Pici> FernandoF: Pastebin the output of df -h
[18:00] <FernandoF> total but I am installing on a new fresh HD
[18:00] <Pici> chocobanana : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[18:00] <frostburn> FernandoF, df -h
[18:00] <chocobanana> Pici: thanks
[18:01] <gartral> frostburn: i have a nearly full 60 ide drive, this may take some time
[18:01] <gangil> hi , i want to connect my computer to an adhoc network setup on windows vista , and use internet via the ics(internet connection sharing)
[18:01] <gartral> 60 gig*
[18:01] <gangil> but i was unable to make it work :(
[18:01] <FernandoF> could it be a problem here E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-dev_2.8~20080505-0ubuntu9_i386.deb: falhou em buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1)
[18:02] <FernandoF> sorry wrong paste
[18:02] <FernandoF> could it be a problem here? rootfs                505M  505M     0 100% /
[18:03] <frostburn> FernandoF, yes indeedy
[18:03] <FernandoF> 100% means 100% used
[18:03] <FernandoF> so what could we make»?
[18:03] <gartral> frostburn: what happens if this comes back clean?
[18:03] <frostburn> gartral, google?
[18:03] <frostburn> unsure
[18:04] <FernandoF> frostburn: solution proposed., please
[18:04] <IKindDontKnow> Hi
[18:04] <FernandoF> rootfs                505M  505M     0 100% /
[18:05] <jeffreyf> When exactly will Jaunty be released...I know it is 4/23, but at what time is it scheduled to "go live"
[18:05] <zeno> how can i make a noise only on the LEFT channel?
[18:05] <frostburn> FernandoF, your root partition is really really small, you'll need to either a, remove stuff from /  or repartition to use something bigger
[18:05] <FernandoF> /dev/loop0            676M  676M     0 100% /rofs
[18:06] <FernandoF> I have enough space and want this to be healthy
[18:06] <wwarrior> #debian
[18:06] <FernandoF> frostburn upper messages are for you, lease
[18:06] <FernandoF> frostburn  /dev/loop0            676M  676M     0 100% /rofs
[18:07] <FernandoF> frostburn  I have enough space and want this to be healthy
[18:07] <Pici> !paste
[18:08] <IKindDontKnow> Could someone answer this questions for me, please? I have two empty FAT32 USB sticks. When I rund fsck on them, for one fsck reports 0 files (OK, I guess) and for other 1 file (not OK, I guess). Why?
[18:08] <Pici> jeffreyf: When its done. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more questions join #ubuntu+1
[18:09] <gartral> frostburn: i can hardly open gain from knoppix... i dont know where firefox is.. i got to pastebin by following someone's link >.>
[18:09] <Nikola> What should i use for my Laptop, Ubuntu or Xubuntu?
[18:10] <JEEB__> hey, anyone has any info on making the desktop some folder? Seems like my 8.10 install made my home folder the desktop, which really isn't how I'd like it to be ^^;
[18:10] <mlindenmann> hey - does anybody know, when exactely the 9.04 will be available? in hours :)
[18:10] <enterneo> is there a way, instead of copying a repository url and then pasting it in /etc/apt/sources.list and then updating the repository to get the updates, I can double click (a file in some format) that could do this work
[18:10] <Pici> mlindenmann: When its done. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more questions join #ubuntu+1
[18:10] <FernandoF> frostburn are you still trying  to help me?
[18:10] <FernandoF> frostburn or lost my message
[18:11] <frostburn> FernandoF, gartral i've been caught up with something, i'll be back in 5-15
[18:11] <danbhfive> mlindenmann: 48 hours
[18:11] <FernandoF> thx
[18:11] <mlindenmann> thx Pici
[18:11] <|_BB_|> sometimes usb sticks have a autorun file, etc etc
[18:12] <_stink_> i want to try the jaunty daily image for the netbook remix.  the wiki page has this warning for *Hardy*: *WARNING. INSTALLING THIS IMAGE WILL DELETE ALL THE CONTENTS OF YOUR HARD DRIVE.*  Does this hold for the jaunty images?  I would expect it to act like a normal installer - i have other partitions i don't want to ruin.
[18:12] <mlindenmann> danbhfive: 48 is 24.4. :)
[18:12] <FernandoF> rootfs                505M  505M     0 100% /
[18:12] <FernandoF> /dev/scd0             699M  699M     0 100% /cdrom
[18:12] <FernandoF> /dev/loop0            676M  676M     0 100% /rofs
[18:12] <Pici> _stink_ : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[18:13] <_stink_> Pici: thanks!
[18:13] <FernandoF> how can i increase the space of these vital areas?
[18:13] <FernandoF> Pici any idea?
[18:13] <JuJuBee> Can someone tell me how to set dns via command line?
[18:14] <carthik> Fernando - what system's that on?
[18:14] <FernandoF> carthik ubuntu 8.10
[18:15] <carthik> FernandoF, no - is that a running installation of ubuntu - and some of those are virtual fs-es
[18:15] <|newbie|> ata2.00: ATAPI: PHILIPS DVD+/-RW SDVD8820, AD20, max UDMA/33
[18:15] <|newbie|> scsi 1:0:0:0: CD-ROM            PHILIPS  DVD+-RW SDVD8820 AD20 PQ
[18:15] <sipior> FernandoF: i'm fairly certain that you won't be able to increase the space of /cdrom :-)
[18:15] <carthik> a cd can't be more than 699MB, for example and the /dev/loop0 sounds like a loopback
[18:15] <|newbie|> Hi. I have compiled the kernel myself, and now, I can use my CDROM/DVD read, but it is detected by the system:
[18:15] <FernandoF> sipior lol
[18:15] <FernandoF> rootfs                505M  505M     0 100% /
[18:15] <FernandoF> /dev/scd0             699M  699M     0 100% /cdrom
[18:15] <FernandoF> /dev/loop0            676M  676M     0 100% /rofs
[18:15] <Pici> !pastebin | FernandoF |newbie|
[18:16] <Pici> FernandoF: Please stop pasting that in this channel.
[18:16] <FernandoF> but rootfs and rofs may need some increase
[18:16] <Pici> FernandoF: Use a pastebin.
[18:16] <carthik> what are they? what command gave you that output anyways?
[18:16] <|newbie|> Who can tell me which modules are required ?
[18:16] <carthik> JuJuBee, edit /etc/resolv.conf
[18:16] <i3luefire> carthik, well it can be slightly larger with "overburn"
[18:17] <carthik> i3luefire, true, but didn't mean to slice hairs :)
[18:17] <ravn> hi guys, anyone understand this bluetooth shit - I never get anything to work there. I just installed blueman, but I still can't connect to either my phone or my headset...
[18:17] <rosepetal> how do i manually make ubuntu detect my usb hard drive and mount it?
[18:17] <Pici> ravn, Please watch your language in this channel, thank you.
[18:17] <carthik> ravn is the bluetooth button on you machine on? has happened to me before
[18:17] <Mr_Kaizer> s3r3n1t7, you around?
[18:17] <i3luefire> carthik, lol ok
[18:17] <jon23d> One of our ubuntu machines seems to have randomly disappearing files, at the same time this has started all the files (except 3) were deleted from a network share that the ubuntu system has access to.  This morning on boot up, most of the desktop settings had disappeared as well.  Any ideas?  We are testing the hard drive right now, but it is less than a week old...
[18:17] <Preplexed> hi all
[18:17] <carthik> rosepetal, plugging it in should do it.
[18:18] <JuJuBee> carthik: thanks.  I see it  now.
[18:18] <danbhfive> ravn: I've had a tough time too
[18:18] <FernandoF> Pici thanks for advise, and I appologize all users for doing it ...anyway as i did it can you try to help how to solve it»?
[18:18] <JuJuBee> If I chane dns, do I need to restart something for it to take ?
[18:18] <carthik> jon23d, if it is a network share, maybe some other user on some machine did the damage?
[18:18] <danbhfive> ravn: you gota put the device in discovery mode, and connect the two
[18:18] <ravn> carthik:check =)
[18:18] <carthik> JuJuBee, /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:19] <rosepetal> carthik: it was working fine until the connecting wire moved and disconnected it... i connected it again but it wont detect it ..
[18:19] <JuJuBee> carthik: thanks again.
[18:19] <forces> hi!
[18:19] <carthik> rosepetal, fat filesystem - unmounted cleanly tends to do that
[18:19] <forces> is jaunty released now?
[18:19] <Pici> FernandoF: Either delete things or use the liveCD and gparted to increase the partition size if possible. 500mb is really small for an entire linux install.
[18:19] <Pici> forces: no.
[18:19] <JuJuBee> carthik: will that boot an nfs connection?
[18:19] <ravn> danbhfive: hmm, discovery mode, I can't see that term in my SE or my laptop, is it the same as visible?
[18:19] <forces> u.u
[18:19] <jatt> why does
[18:19] <jatt>  ps -axH | grep -i kit-daemon
[18:19] <jatt>  show so many threads?
[18:19] <gartral> frostburn: fsck is done, pasting now
[18:19] <forces> how much time i have to wait?
[18:19] <trevor> one dayt
[18:19] <forces> :O
[18:20] <forces> until tomorrow
[18:20] <Pici> forces : Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more questions join #ubuntu+1
[18:20] <carthik> JuJuBee, in my experience, it should be okay - the other machines accessing the nfs shares will wait and retry for a bit
[18:20] <danbhfive> ravn: I dunno.  On my phone, I had to enter the options under bluetooth
[18:20] <FernandoF> what I have is 500 GB and not 500MB, but the live CD stops installation while transferring file system ,,,, I cheked it and it goes till end  with no visible error
[18:20] <rosepetal> carthik: what does that mean? you meant unclean? i cant reboot right now ... hence the question how to make it detect it manually
[18:21] <gartral> frostburn: http://gar.pastebin.com/m165f63a7
[18:21] <ravn> danbhfive: I can brows the files on the SE from my laptop, but controlling the mouse on the laptop with the cell doesn't work and the headset fails to connect all the time :-(
[18:21] <FernandoF> Pici my last post was to you
[18:21] <carthik> JuJuBee, I am not entirely sure you need to restart networking. After making the changes, check if the changes are in effect without the netowrking restart first
[18:21] <Pici> FernandoF: Are yout trying to install Ubuntu or install some package?
[18:22] <carthik> rosepetal, in my experience, when you uncleanly remove a fat filesystem, it goes into locked mode or some such, and it is easier to plug it into a win machine to fix that....
[18:22] <danbhfive> ravn: well, I'm sorry then, because you have had more success than I.   I just got them to connect.  I couldn't make it actually do anything
[18:22] <FernandoF> Pici I am trying to install all fresh 8.10 Ubuntu in a fresh HD of 500GB
[18:22] <carthik> rosepetal, try "dmesg" to see what happens when you plug it in - will give you tips as to what to do to fix it
[18:22] <jon23d> carthik: why would the ubuntu system have disappearing files though?  itsn't it odd that the two happened at the same time?
[18:22] <Lartza_> can you recommend any lgihtweight distros(more lightweight than xubuntu)
[18:22] <jon23d> I literally saw it happen, one minute there is an images folder for a project, the next minute it is gone
[18:23] <JuJuBee> carthik: well, I am using opendns to block certain content in my classroom.  I am blocking chat, but I can still get to meebo.  Not sure if that means anything or not.  I just changed the dns settings on my server to use opendns.  I use NAT on the server so I assume the server dns settings are the ones that need to be set to use opendns?
[18:23] <craigbass1976> I'm trying to get mod_rewrite running on my hardy box.  I did a sudo a2enmod rewrite and I see rewrite listed now in mods-enabled/ but I see nothing about Rewriting in apache2.conf (grepped for Rewr)  I've been reading this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7304
[18:23] <carthik> jon23d, did someone delete that, if not, I don't see how/why it would go awol like that
[18:23] <ravn> danbhfive: hmm, this is really weird, now I can also use the phone as a pointer, I had to connect to the laptop using the phone, the other way around did not work...
[18:24] <Pici> FernandoF: How fast did you burn the ISO? Have you done a disk integrity check?
[18:24] <jon23d> carthik: nobody could have deleted it
[18:24] <jon23d> carthik: and upon bootup, the home directory is missing files now
[18:24] <FernandoF> Pici yes I did and I burnt 2 CD in order to be assured ...both with same problem
[18:24] <frostburn> FernandoF, you'll need to remove something from your partitions to make it work.... run a du -cks * |sort -n      to determine the largest directories
[18:25] <carthik> JuJuBee, hmm, you can set the search field appropriately, but if the inividual machines (not sure if you have them, or if they're just consoles) don't use that server as a dns server, I don't know how it will work out
[18:26] <carthik> jon23d, I am out of my depth here, sorry - can't see why certain specific files would go missing and not others
[18:26] <Pici> FernandoF: How did you partition your drives?
[18:26] <gartral> going down for reboot to ubuntu
[18:27] <Mikaeln> I've just tried the live cd of jaunty, and it seamed to work fine.. so I installed the system. But after I logged in to the system, the system "hangs".. I get a black background, and a moveable mousepointer.. but nothing more... any suggestions? =)
[18:27] <carthik> Lartza, take your pick - damn small linux or puppylinux are small, but have nothing to do with this chat channel
[18:27] <FernandoF> Pici I have 3 HD : 40GB, 250 GB and 500GB
[18:27] <rosepetal> carthik: just rebooting works fine as well ..heres what dmesg says: http://pastie.org/454774
[18:27] <JuJuBee> carthik: I use static dns settings so each computer gets the same IP and dns settings I want them to get.  But with NAT, I thought I should set the server to use the DNS settingns for opendns.  What search field are you referring to?  In resolv.conf?  Can I use IP there?
[18:27] <oobe>  im using 9.04 beta each version of ubuntu changes how things are configured and for some reason even though i setup sysfsutils and added the value 25 in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold kubuntu 9.04 thinks its ok to keep my cpu limtied 1000 MHz even when playing back HD content transcoding or compilling software
[18:28] <FernandoF> Pici the one I am working on I made 3 windows partitions and reserved 250 GB free to let ubuntu work with space more than enough
[18:28] <space_cadet> !topic | oobe
[18:28] <carthik> JuJuBee, the search can be an ip if you have a bind9 dns server running there
[18:28] <FernandoF> Pici: I let the system makes partitions on installation for UBUNTU
[18:28] <Pici> FernandoF: Okay.
[18:29] <JuJuBee> I am not running a dns server in my room
[18:29] <oobe> !pointlessreply | space_cadet
[18:29] <space_cadet> !jaunty | oobe
[18:29] <carthik> Jujubee, test if it is working by visiting http://www.opendns.com/welcome/
[18:29] <oobe> i know i asked in there
[18:30] <carthik> if the coffee shop is out of coffee, do you ask the butcher for coffee?
[18:30] <JuJuBee> carthik: looks like not working
[18:30] <xnmrph> Hi. I've set up a samba share according to this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 but am having trouble accessing it. I need some assistance, please
[18:30] <FernandoF> Pici please read private message
[18:31] <FernandoF> Thx all folks who tryed to help ...
[18:32] <FernandoF> bye
[18:32] <carthik> JuJuBee, do you have a bind9 dns server running on the machine?
[18:32] <carthik> JuJuBee, I can't do better than saying -> https://www.opendns.com/start/
[18:32] <A|i> is 9.04 going to be released at 00.00 GMT?
[18:32] <ShinyHat> would someone please explain to me how to search a folder on an xp machine over a network by filetype?
[18:32] <gene420> xnmrph could you paste your smb configuration
[18:32] <space_cadet> gene420, or pastebin
[18:33] <gene420> yea thats what I mean space_cadet
[18:33] <KingKimi> i have used manual install ....... i resized C and installed it and also made 1 gb swap ........ but now, my windows xp is gone for ever :( how to get back xp ?
[18:33] <JuJuBee> carthik: I do not need to restart networking.  I tested it by setting MY dns settings to use opendns and restarted firefox and it worked.
[18:33] <NeoBlaster> Hi, how can I use both public key auth & regular password method in sshd ? (asking the user's password after the passphrase)
[18:33] <Pici> !outyet | A|i
[18:33] <britline> haloo all
[18:33] <carthik> JuJuBee, cool.
[18:33] <space_cadet> KingKimi, can you see your windows partition at all?
[18:34] <xnmrph> gene420, http://pastebin.com/m11b378db
[18:34] <KingKimi> space_cadet, NO :( it sees D E AND F :(
[18:34] <vigo> A|i: I would get it now or wait three weeks after. Servers are going to be supreheated with the next release. I suppose.
[18:34] <antibody__> hi.anyone knows the path to the flashplugin for firefox in .tar.gz for 64bits? I'm having problems with pulseaudio. I tried an earlier version but I couldn't see videos with subtitles with that.
[18:34] <[4-tea-2]> Howdy, what's the tool of choice for illustrations / "dtp"?
[18:34] <britline> space_cadet, i can see..
[18:34] <A|i> vigo, what do you mean by 'now'? is there a release out there?
[18:34] <JuJuBee> carthik: but I can still get to meebo... :(  opendns claims they block it in the chat section
[18:34] <KingKimi> space_cadet, i did RESIZE C (as i didnt get guided resize opton) in manual and made a ext3 and a swap..... but thats all .... windows is gone :(
[18:34] <space_cadet> KingKimi, where did you put the ext3
[18:35] <vigo> A|i: yes there is.
[18:35] <space_cadet> before or after your xp partition
[18:35] <bercik> I have got some problem with ati open.source driver. It runs very slow even in ExtremeTuxRacer :P Is it normal?
[18:35] <A|i> vigo, where?
[18:35] <KingKimi> space_cadet, i think its in this order > ext > swap > resized C
[18:35] <carthik> JuJubee, you have o login to the opendns dashboard and set your settings...https://www.opendns.com/dashboard/signin
[18:35] <KingKimi> space_cadet, so is it that my xp is gone totally ??
[18:35] <vigo> A|i: beta : http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/beta
[18:36] <A|i> vigo, I wrote _release_
[18:36] <[4-tea-2]> to be more specific, what's the tool of choice for illustrations and desktop publishing, preferably for gnome?
[18:36] <space_cadet> KingKimi, open terminal and sudo fdisk -l  (lowercase L)
[18:36] <freeanshu> Hi all
[18:37] <bercik> freeanshu: hi
[18:37] <space_cadet> KingKimi, pastebin the output
[18:37] <gene420> xnmrph: have you added your user to smbuser
[18:37] <freeanshu> visit anshumanpandey.wordpress.com
[18:37] <xnmrph> gene420. I've added a user via 'sudo useradd -s /bin/true astonraid'
[18:37] <Pici> [4-tea-2]: Scribus is pretty popular, its a qt based app, but can be run on GNOME just fine.
[18:37] <KingKimi> space_cadet, http://paste.ubuntu.com/156041/ here goes the link of it
[18:37] <Pici> freeanshu: This is a support channel, please don't advertise  here.
[18:38] <[4-tea-2]> Pici: thanks, I'll try that.
[18:38] <vigo> A|i: I saw something about official on the 23rd, I think the main server is UTC or GMT , same thing, sorta, so yes, it would be at 0000hrs
[18:38] <freeanshu> I badly want to contribute to Ubuntu
[18:38] <freeanshu> I know
[18:38] <xnmrph> gene420, then 'sudo smbpasswd -L -a astonraid', 'sudo smbpasswd -L -e astonraid'
[18:38] <Pici> !contribute | freeanshu
[18:38] <freeanshu> its my blog where people can find support articles
[18:38] <Adyeths> does anyone know if the problem with ubuntu locking up randomly for no apparent reason is fixed in the new version thats about to be officially released?
[18:38] <KingKimi> i used aptoncd in wubi..... now in real ubuntu.. i restored from the iso...... but they didnot get installed :( help me with this
[18:38] <space_cadet> KingKimi, which partition would be the one with windows on it...  (can you guess by sizes?)
[18:39] <[4-tea-2]> Pici: aptitude install scribus... or scribus-ng? Got a recommendation?
[18:39] <freeanshu> i have seen that
[18:39] <KingKimi> space_cadet, i gave 15000 (to ext3) of 20 gb in C
[18:39] <rosepetal> mount: can't find /dev/sdc in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[18:39] <Strider^> hi
[18:40] <freeanshu> doesnt make much sense to me.. I am still an novice
[18:40] <Pici> [4-tea-2]: scribus-ng looks to be a more recent version
[18:40] <q_> hi
[18:40] <gene420> xnmrph: yea and normally I don't use force user
[18:40] <ShinyHat> could someone please explain to me how to search a folder on an xp machine over a network by filetype?
[18:40] <space_cadet> KingKimi, okay, if you go to the places menu, do you see all your partitions?
[18:40] <xnmrph> gene420; I think it recognises me when I try to access it. I'm doing 'smb://myipaddress' in nautilus and I am getting prompted for a username and password, which I supply. I think they are correct as if I supply a bad one, I get re-prompted. If I supply a good one, it just says 'Unable to mount location - Failed to mount Windows share'
[18:40] <KingKimi> space_cadet, except C
[18:40] <Strider^> i'd like to find the procedure on how to make a package of data that doesn't need compilation (like python)
[18:40] <rosepetal> i am trying to mount a drive .. it is visible in gparted.. but its not mounted.. i get: mount: can't find /dev/sdc in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[18:40] <Matz> Why is Firefox so slow using my icon 225 mobile modem? THe browser is VERY slow loading the pages if it load them at all. I have set the browser to online mode, but it still is EXTREMELY slow.
[18:40] <Pici> Strider^: See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide If you need more help, the ubuntu packaging channel is #ubuntu-motu
[18:40] <mishu> rosepetal, are you trying as root (sudo)?
[18:41] <Gartral> frostburn: im screwed...
[18:41] <rosepetal> mishu: yes
[18:41] <KingKimi> i restored from the iso of aptoncd.///// but NO software got installed.. help me to reinstall the iso contents
[18:41] <frostburn> Gartral, hows that
[18:41] <space_cadet> KingKimi, and how many partitions do you have?
[18:41] <Matz> It isn't that slow using my mobile phone as a modem, only when I connect to Internet using my icon 225 modem and the same SIM-card.
[18:41] <KingKimi> "had" 80 gb hd : 20 on each hdd
[18:41] <KingKimi> space_cadet, 6
[18:41] <sipior> rosepetal: did you specify the mount point? could you show us the precise command used?
[18:41] <mishu> rosepetal, please paste the command you are using
[18:41] <KingKimi> space_cadet, i mean 4
[18:41] <bill102299> hey yall
[18:42] <mishu> what sipior said
[18:42] <freeanshu> is there anyway I can connect to internet using a bluetooth modem
[18:42] <Gartral> frostburn: dropped into busybox
[18:42] <rosepetal> sipior, mishu: sudo mount /dev/sdc
[18:42] <gamerboy> rosepetaal, you have to mount a slice (or partition) from a device. Like "mount /dev/sdc1" (Note the number at the end...)
[18:42] <Gartral> different error, too
[18:42] <space_cadet> KingKimi, you have 4 windows partitions....
[18:42] <freeanshu> is there anyway I can connect to internet using a bluetooth modem
[18:42] <space_cadet> KingKimi, a linux partition and a swap partition
[18:42] <sipior> rosepetal: try "sudo mount /dev/sdc /mnt/disk" assuming /mnt/disk exists..
[18:42] <KingKimi> space_cadet, yea ! and have D E And F in places drop downl menu
[18:42] <rosepetal> gamerboy: says the same thing..
[18:42] <KingKimi> space_cadet, YES !
[18:42] <sanket> hello
[18:42] <mishu> and assuming /dev/sdc is the partition, not /dev/sdc1.. like gamerboy said
[18:43] <KingKimi> sanket, Hi !
[18:43] <sanket> i am facing a problem with themes after upgrading to Jaunty
[18:43] <Gartral> frostburn:  im on my fathers machine right now, running windows, ill copy the error verbatim, one moment
[18:43] <dany> hi all
[18:43] <rosepetal> sipior: usually it just mounts the drive in /media/drivename ..
[18:43] <xnmrph> gene420, if I remove the force user, it works. What does the force user in the smb.conf actually do?
[18:43] <Adyeths> does anyone know if the problem with ubuntu locking up randomly for no apparent reason is fixed in the new version thats about to be officially released?
[18:43] <space_cadet> KingKimi, then looking at the fdisk printout,  would the w95 ext'd partition be  disk c?
[18:43] <mishu> rosepetal, create a directory and try to use that as a mount point
[18:43] <freeanshu> is there anyway I can connect to internet using a bluetooth modem
[18:43] <sanket> any inputs on the theme problem?
[18:43] <gamerboy> rosepetal: Paste here the results of fdisk /dev/sdc (p subcommand)
[18:43] <dany> I have installed xen-server on my ubuntu but I don't know how execute it.. there isn't shortcuts from application.. where is the executable?
[18:43] <dany> do you know?
[18:43] <KingKimi> what is "w95 ext'd"
[18:43] <IHS_intern> sanket: Even though jaunty is shipping tomorrow, probably in less than 24 hours.. it still isn't supported in this room :D
[18:44] <IHS_intern> sanket, Topic has the room where it is, last I read it
[18:44] <rumpel> @ dany do you know the name of the executable?
[18:44] <mishu> or 'ls /dev/sdc*'
[18:44] <gamerboy> KingKimi: It means is a windows 95 extended partition....
[18:44] <gene420> xnmrph: valid users = %U
[18:44] <sanket> IHS_intern: i agree but there still have to be people who have tried it
[18:44] <dany> no I don't
[18:44] <rosepetal> gamerboy:    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[18:44] <KingKimi> gamerboy, ok
[18:44] <rosepetal> /dev/sdc1               1        4864    39070048+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[18:44] <rosepetal> /dev/sdc2            4865        9729    39078112+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[18:44] <rosepetal> /dev/sdc5            4865        9729    39078081    7  HPFS/NTFS
[18:44] <FloodBot2> rosepetal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:44] <gene420> xnmrph: to only allow samba declared users....
[18:44] <Mint`> !paste | rosepetal
[18:44] <space_cadet> oh, duh
[18:45] <IHS_intern> sanket, it's apparently room protocol to not allow it to be supported in this room, from all I've seen.
[18:45] <mishu> rosepetal, create a directory with mkdir
[18:45] <KingKimi> space_cadet, yes !! i see w95 extd lba
[18:45] <mishu> and mount it to that directory.. sudo mount /dev/sdc1 directory
[18:45] <xnmrph> gene420, when I do the 'sudo smbpasswd -L -e astonraid' is says user enabled
[18:45] <KingKimi> space_cadet, and i think that its xp
[18:45] <sanket> hmm
[18:45] <space_cadet> looking at it now, KingKimi unless the D drive is actually your C drive,   windows probably got hosed.
[18:45] <Strider^> Pici, oh great the wiki has a section concerning Python packaging, thank you
[18:45] <xnmrph> gene420, so it's more secure to use the force user option?
[18:45] <KingKimi> space_cadet, i cant understand
[18:46] <dany> no one know where is?
[18:46] <space_cadet> partitions 5 and 6 are both around 20 gigs
[18:46] <KingKimi> space_cadet, yes ?
[18:46] <KingKimi> space_cadet, so ?
[18:46] <space_cadet> so I would try mounting them to see if they contain a windows installation kingkimi
[18:47] <rosepetal> mishu, gamerboy: it worked by specifying a directory. thanks. even though the man page said it was not necessary :S
[18:47] <KingKimi> space_cadet, i did.. it has all my files and not xp
[18:47] <gene420> xnmrph: force user and group are used so when files are created they use those group or user rights
[18:47] <racecar56> whats an easy way to make more disk space? looks like /usr is the biggest
[18:47] <space_cadet> KingKimi, both of them?
[18:47] <deco> at what time is 9.4 available for download?
[18:48] <KingKimi> space_cadet, define "both" |||||| i did the D E AND F
[18:48] <aelizondo> hello. what is the _official_ way to add static routes to an 8.04 box? some people say to make a script in /etc/netwrok/if-up.d/static-routes, while others say you should just put the route commands in the /etc/network/interfaces file
[18:48] <space_cadet> KingKimi, i was referring to d and e,
[18:48] <mishu> rosepetal, it's not necessary if /dev/sdc1 is already in /etc/fstab
[18:48] <mishu> that's why it was giving you that error
[18:48] <KingKimi> space_cadet, ok. i did also F ...... and not have xp in it
[18:48] <rosepetal> mishu: ok thanks
[18:48] <Supavisah__> my god I d/c so many times.
[18:49] <space_cadet> KingKimi, do you have a G drive?
[18:49] <xnmrph> gene420, so is there a particularly good reason for that? Or does it assume the rights of the user "accessing it" ?
[18:49] <KingKimi> space_cadet, G ?? no .... i had 80G hd with 4 drives each 20
[18:49] <mishu> np
[18:49] <space_cadet> kingkimi /dev/sdb1
[18:49] <Adyeths> does anyone know if the problem with ubuntu locking up randomly for no apparent reason is fixed in the new version thats about to be officially released?
[18:49] <freeanshu> rosepetal: try this
[18:49] <freeanshu> Create the Mount Point:
[18:49] <freeanshu> Now we need to create a mount point for the device, let's say we want to call it “external”. You can call it whatever you want, just please don't use spaces in the name or it gets a little more complicated - use an underscore to separate words (like "my_usb"). We can create the mount point as follows:
[18:49] <freeanshu> sudo mkdir /media/external
[18:49] <freeanshu> Mount the Drive:
[18:49] <FloodBot2> freeanshu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:50] <KingKimi> space_cadet, bash: cd: /dev/sdb1: Not a directory
[18:50] <freeanshu> ok
[18:50] <gene420> that whay if your using a domain login with a public directory everyone would have access to files vs rights and groups for a particular user being set on a file
[18:51] <xnmrph> gene420. I suppose I'm confused as to why the howto specifies having these forceuser etc options and you have to remove those options to get it to work
[18:51] <rosepetal> freeanshu: yeap. did that. thanks
[18:51] <KingKimi> space_cadet, ??
[18:51] <space_cadet> kingkimi  you aren't going to be able to cd to it...
[18:51] <xnmrph> gene420, it sort of implies that either the howto is wrong or something is incorrect on my system
[18:51] <space_cadet> KingKimi, you have to mount it first.
[18:51] <KingKimi> WHAT to mount ? :O
[18:51] <KingKimi> space_cadet, ^
[18:51] <freeanshu> is there anyway I can connect to internet using a bluetooth modem
[18:51] <space_cadet> kingkimi  sudo mkdir /media/G
[18:51] <freeanshu> is there anyway I can connect to internet using a bluetooth modem
[18:52] <KingKimi> done
[18:52] <KingKimi> space_cadet, done
[18:52] <alex1> hi i have problem with wifit i can connect to any but not to mine :X
[18:52] <space_cadet> KingKimi one sec
[18:52] <KingKimi> ok
[18:52] <xnmrph> gene420. OK, I want users (there are only two) to be able to mount the share with equal rights. If one user wants to delete what the other has added, fine. Presumably, that is what the force user option does (?)
[18:53]  * jeanseb is back (gone 01:25:14)
[18:53] <Pici> !away > jeanseb
[18:53] <Siropel> is it out yet?!:))
[18:53] <Pici> !outyet | Siropel
[18:53] <freeanshu> is there anyway I can connect to internet using a bluetooth modem
[18:54] <gene420> yea then also to lock a directory to a given user for example a login mount so other users with the same rights can't access or see that share
[18:55] <Aquinus> Does anyone know why rsync -av --checksum runs slow over 100mbit ethernet off of a mounted smb share?
[18:55] <gene420> xnmrph: so if you didnt have that set each user with the same rights would be able to access other user home directorys or mounts
[18:55] <space_cadet> kingkimi sudo mount -t vfat -0 iocharset=utf8,umask000 /dev/sdb1 /media/G
[18:55] <space_cadet> crap
[18:55] <space_cadet> kingkimi sudo mount -t vfat -0 iocharset=utf8,umask=000 /dev/sdb1 /media/G
[18:56] <space_cadet> kingkimi ^^ second one
[18:56] <jackstraw> ok I have a small problom, I was trying to adjust the screen resolution on my desktop. when I did I accidently got the resolution to a bigger format and I cant go back to re adjust the other settings. the screen wont show the bottom of the window to fix it back. any suggestions?
[18:56] <xnmrph> gene420, how can they access home dirs? When I access the directory, it only allows me access to the /media/raid share. I can't "get to" anywhere else...or can I ?
[18:56] <freeanshu> is it possible that I customize my Ubuntu  and distribute it? If do how
[18:56] <freeanshu> jackstraw: Go to system
[18:56] <freeanshu> preferences
[18:57] <freeanshu> jackstraw: Go to screen resolution
[18:57] <KingKimi> space_cadet, that command did NOT work
[18:57] <KingKimi> space_cadet, that just say "say man 8 mount"
[18:57] <freeanshu> jackstraw: is it ok?
[18:57] <gene420> for example if you used domain / home directories and gene and xnmrph are logged into the domain with the same rights I would be able to see your home dir and you would be able to see mine since we are under the same group rights
[18:57] <KingKimi> space_cadet, PLEASE see my PMessage :(
[18:58] <KingKimi> space_cadet, bye
[18:58] <jackstraw> thats what I did , I cant see the bottom of the screen to make any changes
[18:58] <gene420> that way you wouldn't need to great a group for each user
[18:58] <freeanshu> jackstraw: cant move the windows too?
[18:58] <xnmrph> gene420 - I don't know a lot about this so please bear with me. If I have a shared mount, how can a user log in and access other directories ?
[18:58] <gene420> still learning myself so I'm sure someone could add to this but my understanding is that
[18:59] <leejongwook> hi, do i need to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 (?)
[18:59] <blackest> jackstraw:  hold down left alt click on the window and drag
[18:59] <jackstraw> I can move the window, but I cant move it to see the bottom
[18:59] <Aquinus> leejongwook: No. Only if you want to.
[18:59] <leejongwook> thanks :)
[18:59] <bc> I apologize if this is a dumb question, but do I have to have Xorg running to be able to use a wireless keyboard?
[18:59] <ai3gtmc> hmm
[19:00] <Aquinus> bc: Shouldn
[19:00] <jackstraw> hold on let me try that
[19:00] <Aquinus> bc: Shouldn't**
[19:00] <wrice> bc: no
[19:00] <Gartral> frostburn: http://gar.pastebin.com/m261cdc5b
[19:00] <bc> many thank yous
[19:00] <ai3gtmc> why is it that ubuntu won't read the overclocked ghz? i overclocked my CPU but it still detects the original GHz
[19:01] <jackstraw> it didnt work
[19:01] <blindlord> hi
[19:01] <blindlord> anyone speak italian?
[19:01] <frostburn> Gartral, oh interesting... looks like fstab has changed
[19:01] <xnmrph> gene420 - have to go for dinner now. Thanks for your help
[19:01] <gene420> under home directories or in your pastbin there is a profile declared but not in use so if it where used each user that is logged in would have there home directory share present on the network
[19:01] <Pici> !it | blindlord
[19:02] <gene420> l8r
[19:02] <blindlord> thanks
[19:02] <Gartral> frostburn: this good or bad, right now, its at a busy box promt
[19:02] <blackest> jackstraw: wonder if you could ssh in from somewhere and do it that way
[19:02] <freeanshu> jackstraw: try this
[19:02] <freeanshu> gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[19:02] <frostburn> Gartral, good, might be recoverable
[19:03] <Gartral> frostburn: your the man
[19:03] <frostburn> Gartral, did you use wubi to install?
[19:03] <ShinyHat> could someone please explain to me how to search a folder on an xp machine over a network by filetype?
[19:03] <Gartral> frostburn: no, installed directly, no other OS on that box
[19:03] <blackest> or sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change or delete the lowest resolution or boot from a live cd and edit from there
[19:04] <Aquinus> Older versions of X.org let you change the resolution in the xserver-xorg config.
[19:04] <Aquinus> via dkpg-reconfigure
[19:04] <freeanshu> jackstraw: nything??
[19:04] <Aquinus> ^dkpg^dpkg
[19:05] <jackstraw> thanks alot  it worked yall rule
[19:05] <freeanshu> ok
[19:05] <frostburn> Gartral, i'd boot into knoppix, do a ls -lah /dev/disk/by-uuid     and compare to your fstab     cat /etc/fstab
[19:05] <lightpriest_> has anyone tried blueman with A2DP devices?
[19:06] <freeanshu> how can i install Open Solaris along with Ubuntu
[19:06] <frostburn> Gartral, you'll want to see if the uuids have been changed around at all... if they have, backup your fstab and replace with the newer uuids
[19:07] <Aquinus> freeanshu: two separate partitions using GRUB, but I'm not sure if anything special needs to be done, I haven't touched Solaris.
[19:07] <freeanshu> Consider that I want the Ubuntu GRUB to start things
[19:07] <lightpriest_> frostburn, there's also blkid that lists types as well
[19:07] <Gartral> frostburn: ok, break this down, drop into knoppix, type ls -lah /dev/disk/by-uuid and the cat /etc/fstab, correct?
[19:07] <frostburn> Gartral, you'll need to mount the /root drive and cat /mnt/yourrootdrivehere/etc/fstab
[19:08] <freeanshu> Aquinus: Ok
[19:08] <frostburn> and change if accordingly
[19:08] <neurobuntu> #ubuntu+1
[19:08] <Aquinus> freeanshu: You should try making a virtual machine and test it on on there, that is your best bet to see how it will act.
[19:08] <Gartral> ok, root drive is hda1, easy enough
[19:08] <Gartral> ill brb
[19:08] <freeanshu> Aquinus: Thats definetly a very good idea
[19:09] <freeanshu> thanx
[19:09] <Aquinus> np
[19:09] <lightpriest_> has anyone tried blueman with A2DP devices?
[19:09] <frostburn> Gartral, or use the command lightpriest_ suggested blkid
[19:09] <lightpriest_> A2DP for those bluetooth speakers
[19:10] <freeanshu> is it possible that I customize my Ubuntu  and distribute it? If do how
[19:10] <freeanshu> is it possible that I customize my Ubuntu  and distribute it? If yes how?
[19:11] <ShinyHat> could someone please explain to me how to search a folder on an xp machine over a network by filetype?
[19:11] <drinkycrow> freeanshu: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ is as close as you're gonna get
[19:11] <Gartral> frostburn: well try your way first
[19:11] <hlfshell> cd pyen
[19:11] <hlfshell> oops
[19:11] <vigo> freeanshu: Sure, just abide by the GNU stuff.
[19:11] <dalton2345> hi everyone, jaunty official release is tomorrow right?
[19:11] <hbekel> ShinyHat: just like you'd search any other folder
[19:12] <freeanshu> ryt
[19:12] <ShinyHat> hbekel: when i search a mounted samba share, it returns no results
[19:12] <hlfshell> Hello - I am currently running ubuntu linux and need to add a module to the python module folder. where is this located in ubuntu?
[19:13] <lightpriest_> dalton2345, that's the scheduled date.. yes
[19:13] <hbekel> ShinyHat: it?
[19:13] <lightpriest_> ShinyHat, how do you search?
[19:14] <Rolie> ShinyHat, find is case sensitive
[19:14] <ShinyHat> i have been using the search button :|
[19:15] <ShinyHat> perhaps that is not the right way to search?
[19:15] <lightpriest_> ShinyHat, if you "mounted" it using the "Places > Connect to a server" it should be in ~/.gvfs
[19:15] <lightpriest_> ShinyHat, you could also just type 'mount' in the terminal and see where it is mounted
[19:16] <ShinyHat> lightpriest_: i mounted them to a folder in /home
[19:16] <Rolie> ShinyHat, did you search on *.ext? Because "the search button" does not seem to support wildcards
[19:17] <ShinyHat> rolie: that would probably be my issue, then
[19:17] <lightpriest_> ShinyHat, if it IS mounted, it should appear when you run mount with no params
[19:17] <ShinyHat> lightpriest_: it appears, but as rolie just mentioned the search feature doesn't seem to support wildcards
[19:18] <ShinyHat> rolie: so how do i search for all files of a type?
[19:18] <Gartral> frostburn: oh crap.... the uuids match...
[19:18] <Rolie> ShinyHat, oke, then you should open a command line, cd to the mount point and use find: find . -iname *.ext
[19:19] <frostburn> Gartral, hmm
[19:19] <dalton2345> so how long will it took me to download jaunty..it will take for ever...so many people are waiting for it
[19:19] <Mikaeln> I want to connect to my network (wpa security) from the shell... how do I do?
[19:19] <ShinyHat> rolie: that seems a bit cumbersome to, for example, display all mp4s in a folder
[19:19] <andyross> dalton2345: use the torrent.  But AFAIK, the release isn't on the mirrors yet...
[19:20] <frostburn> Gartral, check   cat /dirwhereyoumounted/boot/menu.lst
[19:20] <Rolie> ShinyHat, or just search (with the button :)) without a wildcard, but I don't know whether that would give too much false positives...
[19:20] <Gartral> frostburn: where i mounted what, my drive?
[19:20] <frostburn> Gartral, check   cat /dirwhereyoumounted/boot/grub/menu.lst   correction
[19:20] <frostburn> yes
[19:20] <Rolie> ShinyHat, because as far as I know there is no such feature to search for specific file types (extensions) within Nautilus
[19:21] <dalton2345> andyross: i do the latest rc release, do u think i should burn it to a cd and experiment with it or just wait tomorrow
[19:21] <Pici> !jaunty
[19:21] <lightpriest_> ShinyHat, in nautilus you could add a filter to the results. click on the plus and you'll have a file type selection. just select "Videos"
[19:21] <neurobuntu> dalton2345, wait
[19:22] <ShinyHat> rolie: i guess i've been locked into windows too long- failing to see the obvious, simple solution. searching mp3 gave exactly what i was after
[19:22] <Gartral> all uuids are the same...
[19:22] <ShinyHat> rolie: i kinda feel silly now:-/
[19:23] <lightpriest_> ShinyHat, no need to feel silly :) in the file type selection you have other as well with a list of specific types.
[19:23] <akritiko> hello guys. A quick question. I have an Asus eeePC 1000h. Earlier at office I had to use is as my main machine and I plugged in it the keyboard and the mouse I use at office. Now that I opened the machine at home the keyboard does not respond appropriate. E.g. when I hit k, I get 2, when l, I get 3 and so on.
[19:23] <dalton2345> neurobuntu: yes u right, i can wait another day, the thing is i hope i'll be able to download it, cause the servers will be full
[19:23] <ShinyHat> lightpriest_: thanks for that also. maybe after enough linux experience i will get it through my head that it doesnt have to be as difficult as i was used to
[19:23] <neurobuntu> dalton2345, use bittorrent
[19:23] <Rolie> ShinyHat, :) But as I see now, there ís a way. Hard to explain but after searching I get a sort of yellow bar in which I can add / remove search conditions amongst which I can specify a file type..., as lightpriest_ mentioned
[19:23] <neurobuntu> dalton2345, that way you get the latest download at high speeds and you help other people at the same time
[19:23] <akritiko> If anyone knows sth please help
[19:24] <Gartral> frostburn: all uuids appear to be the same
[19:24] <neurobuntu> akritiko, check for num luck
[19:24] <lightpriest_> ShinyHat, you'll find it much more efficient after you'll tweak gnome to your needs :)
[19:24] <frostburn> Gartral, at this point i'd either make a post on the forums, or copy off the data you need to a thumbdrive and reinstall
[19:25] <lightpriest_> ShinyHat, and congrats for moving away from windows :D
[19:25] <akritiko> Bulls eye neurobuntu, you are a life savior
[19:25] <ShinyHat> lightpriest_, rolie: thank you both for the help!
[19:25] <akritiko> thanks a lot
[19:25] <Rolie> ShinyHat, np!
[19:25] <neurobuntu> akritiko, its happened to us all
[19:25] <Gartral> frostburn: this system has no decent usb, and i dont have a 25 gb thumbdrive... is there ANY way to recover?
[19:25] <dalton2345> is it at 12am or sometime tomorrow, if anyone know
[19:25] <ShinyHat> lightpriest_:there are only 2 things left that keep me a bit bound to windows
[19:26] <akritiko> I guess you are right
[19:26] <lightpriest_> ShinyHat, I bet I could find a replacement for them :P
[19:26] <neurobuntu> Gartral, is this a desktop or a laptop?
[19:26] <Gartral> neurobuntu: desktop
[19:26] <neurobuntu> can you put an additional HD in?
[19:26] <dassouki> why does my laptop consume more processing power using ubuntu vs. vista .. the fan is always on and it's warm (Beagle and search indexing are disabled, and the visual effects are not enabled)
[19:26] <Gartral> neurobuntu: if i had the money to buy one
[19:26] <frostburn> Gartral, possibly, but i'm not sure if i'll be of any help...
[19:26] <ShinyHat> lightpriest_: if you can help, i would be forever grateful- i use logmein for remote IT purposes, which seems to hate everything but activex
[19:27] <neurobuntu> Gartral, what is the problem exactly?
[19:27] <akritiko> What I didn't know is that the NumLk mode is preserved even after a reboot
[19:27] <Steve^> Does any use Adobe AIR? I've tried a couple of twitter clients for it, but when I click URLs nothing happens. I need to configure my browser somehow?
[19:27] <Gartral> neurobuntu: wont boot into ubuntu, takes me to ramfs busybox
[19:27] <george-> how do i reconfigure x in terminal, I can not boot into xwindows, i get a black screen with a box saying its unsupported on bootup
[19:27] <Gartral> http://gar.pastebin.com/m261cdc5b
[19:27] <neurobuntu> Gartral, do you have a liveCD?
[19:27] <Gartral> last  neurobuntu
[19:27] <george-> i need enable the nvidia drivers, how can i do this from terminal
[19:27] <neurobuntu> do you have free space on your HDD?
[19:28] <akritiko> Steve sometimes is firewall's fault (if you use any)
[19:28] <Gartral> neurobuntu: booted into knoppix right now, i cant find my ubuntu cd
[19:28] <neurobuntu> how much data is on your HDD and how much free space do you have?
[19:28] <neurobuntu> Gartral, ^^
[19:28] <thewrath> how easy is it to set up dns as your first dns server and then your ips as your second and so on
[19:29] <george-> how do i reconfigure x in terminal, I can not boot into xwindows, i get a black screen with a box saying its unsupported on bootup
[19:29] <george-> i need enable the nvidia drivers, how can i do this from terminal
[19:29] <Gartral> neurobuntu: i have nealy 88% full on a 60 gig drive, 25 gigs is ALL home data
[19:29] <frostburn> thewrath, easy, change your /etc/resolv.conf
[19:29] <isiah> I been trying to download jaunty, but every site I got to seems to require a torrent. Anyone know a non-torrent site?
[19:29] <neurobuntu> Gartral, are you running a knoppix liveCD?
[19:29] <hbekel> george-: are the drivers installed yet?
[19:29] <Steve^> How do I change my default web browser, when links are clicked?
[19:29] <Gartral> neurobuntu: as of this moment, yes, knoppix 5.1.1
[19:29] <thewrath> frostburn: you know of a good tutorial to do this
[19:29] <lightpriest_> isiah, you could download the netinstall
[19:29] <george-> hbekel im not sure, how do i check?
[19:29] <djuggler> Hello all! I think I may need some hand holding. I've got ubuntu desktop up and going and it surfs the Internet fine. If I go to places->Netowrk I can see my windows network but my windows network doesn't see the ubuntu box. Where should I be looking?
[19:30] <hateball> !samba | djuggler
[19:30] <neurobuntu> Gartral, do you have a seperate /home partition?
[19:30] <frostburn> thewrath, man resolv.conf
[19:30] <Gartral> neurobuntu: unfortuently, no
[19:30] <thewrath> ok
[19:30] <george-> lol i hate this ircii
[19:30] <bassliner> george-: use irssi.
[19:30] <scunizi> djuggler: right click a folder you'd like to share on the ubuntu box and choose share.. it'll set things up to be visable
[19:31] <thewrath> first i would have to install the dns server on my ubuntu machine, then edit the resolv.conf file. but i could use it as a preliminary dns server in case the dns server that my isp users ever goes down
[19:31] <oshua86_> george-, IRSSI is the bomb
[19:31] <oshua86_> :D
[19:31] <thewrath> i can just keep all records in my dns server?  is that correct frostburn
[19:31] <scunizi> IRSSI + Screen
[19:31] <thewrath> +1 scunizi
[19:31] <bassliner> irssi + screen is the only thing to go
[19:31] <oshua86_> scunizi, damn right
[19:31] <oshua86_> lol
[19:31] <george_> lol irssi is much better
[19:31] <neurobuntu> Gartral, this is what I would do.... 1) download and burn the liveCD 2) boot the live CD 3) run Partition Editor (under System-->Admin-->Partitions or something like that)  4) resize your current partition (shrink by 10gigs), 5) create a new partition 6) install ubuntu to this new paritition
[19:32] <scunizi> split screen window with irssi on top and mutt on the bottom
[19:32] <george_> ok any one know how to come by my fix, the problem is i need to download the nvidia driver for xwindows(i cant remember the name of it, its the one for newer cards)
[19:32] <frostburn> thewrath, what are you trying to accomplish?
[19:32] <george_> how do i install that from terminal?
[19:32] <neurobuntu> Gartral, that will get you so you can boot and access this data, but you really need to create a backup of some sort
[19:32] <scunizi> george_: sudo apt-get install irssi
[19:32] <neurobuntu> Gartral, then create a / partition and a seperate /home partition
[19:32] <oshua86_> hey guys, i got a question, i got a HDE harddrive that I connected to my ubuntu pC via usb with an adapter, but for some reason I get a message that says "unable to mount" it has an ntfs partition, any help plz?
[19:32] <thewrath> frostburn: i want to set up a dns server that will be the primary one that i use
[19:32] <thewrath> at my residents
[19:32] <thewrath> instead of my isp one
[19:32] <Gartral> neurobuntu: i dont have 10 gigs...
[19:33] <george_> scunizi no i have irssii im on it, i need to know how to install the nvidia drivers for xwin from terminal
[19:33] <neurobuntu> Gartral, how much do you have? do you have 5?
[19:33] <george_> because i cant boot into xwin
[19:33] <neurobuntu> Gartral, 5 is enough
[19:33] <scunizi> george_: just cought that.. do you have the driver downloaded yet?
[19:33] <george_> scunizi no
[19:33] <frostburn> thewrath, if you want to install a dns server you'll want to install bind, there's plenty of tutorials on the web to do that
[19:33] <piglit> what was the command to see wat is going on on the network, i need to know because the network is slow slow slow ... and i tried several dns servers
[19:33] <dummkopf48227> hom many hours left 'til Jaunty?
[19:33] <Rifo0> hi, is there a way to install winxp through ubuntu? coz my thinkpad has a supervisor password and doesn't lemme boot from the CDROM, and when i add the CDROM on the Boot Grub it runs ubuntu cd but doesn't run WinXp cdrom install!
[19:33] <scunizi> george_: ok.. hang on and I'll get a link for using wget to retrieve it.
[19:33] <neurobuntu> Gartral, but once you start the parition editor DON'T stop it, it will work but it will take anywhere from 30 minutes until 10 hours to move an rearrange all the data
[19:33] <george_> scunizi shouldnt there be an apt-get install for the nvidia driver?
[19:34] <neurobuntu> dummkopf48227, go to #ubuntu-launch-party
[19:34] <george_> k
[19:34] <scunizi> george_: yes.. what card do you have
[19:34] <thewrath> frostburn: so i can install bind and edit that file you told me about and then i can use it how i want to?
[19:34] <frostburn> piglit, define going on the network?
[19:34] <Daremonai> how can I disable DNS Server Recursive Query ?
[19:34] <dummkopf48227> neurobuntu: oh thx
[19:34] <piglit> frostburn: pages are slow loading if they are loading at all
[19:34] <george_> 9800 series, i just remember it being the newer driver of the two nvidia drivers
[19:34] <thewrath> frostburn: the use would be as a preliminary dns server that all computers on my network would utilize first and if it was down then it would use my isp or another one that i would wnat
[19:34] <Gartral> neurobuntu: i have 2 gb free
[19:34] <neodemi> i just formatted an external drive to use 2, and upon remounting it i cannot copy files to it, im recieving a 'permission denied' error when i attempt
[19:34] <neodemi> use ext 2*
[19:35] <neurobuntu> Gartral, then here is what you need to do... mount the drive in the Live CD and start deleting things you don't need
[19:35] <piglit> frostburn, i tried several dns servers
[19:35] <neurobuntu> Gartral, there is something you can try
[19:35] <scunizi> george_: well .. there's the 173,177 & 180.11 driver available.. you might consider using the latest for that card thats available direct from nvidia
[19:35] <frostburn> piglit, you can use mtr example.org     to see why it takes forever, use a     dig @dnsserver example.org to see where dns is slow
[19:35] <neurobuntu> Gartral, you can try to install ubuntu again but tell it _NOT_ to format the drive
[19:35] <neurobuntu> Gartral, that could work but I won't guarentee it
[19:35] <dassouki> the fact that my computer is so warm using ubuntu is really bugging me
[19:35] <frostburn> thewrath, do you want to configure a dns server or do you just want your computer to use a different dns server?
[19:35] <piglit> even the page from my router is very slow
[19:36] <space_cadet> disable ipv6?
[19:36] <cjae> how does one query about the version of a package they have?
[19:36] <frostburn> piglit, make sure you don't have a power cable next to your cat5
[19:36] <Gartral> neurobuntu: i can set up a network share, but i cant really delete much, most of its work, or server images
[19:36] <george_> scunizi: since i dont know which one it is do u have the filename to just use the aptitude download install, that works, i just did a fresh ubuntu-studio install over kubuntu 64bit
[19:36] <space_cadet> heh
[19:36] <george_> i did not anticipate xwindows not working since its always worked out of the box before
[19:36] <george_> with same computer hardware
[19:37] <scunizi> looking for that now george_
[19:37] <Rifo0> hi, please can yall help me to find a way to install winxp back together with linux through ubuntu? coz my thinkpad has a supervisor password and doesn't lemme boot from the CDROM, and when i add the CDROM on the Boot Grub it runs ubuntu cd but doesn't run WinXp cdrom install!
[19:37] <george_> scunizi: thank you very much
[19:37] <space_cadet> rifo0   bios password?
[19:37] <thewrath> frostburn: both i want to configure my won dns sever that iw ill keep records at that all computers on my network would use. if there was a problem with my dns server then it would use my isp's dns server or another dns server
[19:37] <Rifo0> no supervisor bios password
[19:38] <hateball> !version | cjae
[19:38] <Rifo0> i can use the bios as a normal user, and i am not allowed to change the boot order
[19:38] <george_> Rifo0: sounds like u need to get that password to set bios to boot from cdrom, so u can boot from ur xp cd
[19:38] <space_cadet> Rifo0, what type of bios is it?
[19:38] <frostburn> thewrath, you'll probably want to read http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596001582/ for configuring bind, and for having computers use a specifc dns server, this can be accomplished through a dhcp lease or by editing the resolv.conf on every box connected to your network
[19:39] <cjae> thanks hateball
[19:39] <neurobuntu> Gartral, I've given you all the information you need to fix this, but something is going to have to give... either install again without formatting, try resizing the partitions and installing to the new partition, or copy the data somewhere else and reinstall
[19:39] <space_cadet> Rifo0, try merlin for the password
[19:39] <space_cadet> lol
[19:39] <frostburn> thewrath, what do you use for dhcp server?
[19:39] <odinsbane> I'm looking at a new laptop and I"m trying to find if the hardware is going to work well with linux, is there a good website?
[19:39] <Rifo0> when i added two files to the grub i could run ubuntu cd, but not xp, i just wonder if theres a wake to make it work with the same thing (GRUB)
[19:39] <thewrath> frostburn: none yet. i was just cirous how i would go about it
[19:39] <hateball> !hcl | odinsbane
[19:39] <Rifo0> space_cadet, its Thinkpad R52
[19:39] <george_> Rifo0: refer to space_cadets posting to try merlin as a password
[19:40] <thewrath> frostburn: what would you recomment
[19:40] <Rifo0> i don't remember the type of the bios :/
[19:40] <neurobuntu> Rifo0, http://forums.techguy.org/windows-nt-2000-xp/580691-xp-cd-fails-boot-xp.html
[19:40] <scunizi> george_: are you on 8.10 or 8.04.. I'm on 8.04 right now and the file names for the nvidia are different.. mainly because the latest driver I see is 173 which is 2 steps behind what's available on 8.10
[19:40] <Gartral> neurobuntu: ok, i dont have a ubuntu cd anymore, where can i download an image that *wont?8 take 4 days?
[19:40] <george_> scunizi: 8.10
[19:40] <neurobuntu> Ubuntu.com or from bittorrent
[19:40] <djuggler> doh! Thanks for the reminder re: samba
[19:40] <thewrath> frost would this help me as well: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dns-server-setup-using-bind-in-ubuntu.html ?
[19:41] <frostburn> thewrath, i'd recommend using a separate distro for your dns/dhcp server, i use pfsense  www.pfsense.org/
[19:41] <neurobuntu> Gartral, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[19:41] <cjae> ok so I just checked I already have the package that kpackage is proposing to install, how do I tell it that?
[19:41] <scunizi> Can anyone give george_ a file name he can use on cli for retreiving the nvidia 180 driver via apt-get?
[19:41] <space_cadet> Rifo0, this may be of some help... no guarantees though http://www.tech-faq.com/reset-bios-password.shtml
[19:41] <thewrath> frostburn: why would you recommend that
[19:41] <minazo> Anyone use gFTP for their FTP client? If so, has anyone tried to get their Vim editor to open up for them?
[19:41] <scunizi> minazo: yep
[19:42] <neurobuntu> scunizi,            nvidia-glx-180
[19:42] <Rifo0> george_ to space_cadets ??? i don't know what u mean, and merlin i tried but noway
[19:42] <neodemi> can anyone help me set the permissions on my external drive, i don't know how or where to change them
[19:42] <scunizi> minazo: I should say.. yep for question 1 and nope for #2
[19:42] <Gartral> neurobuntu: i dont have a torrent app
[19:42] <thewrath> frostburn: that does not come with a dns server
[19:42] <george_> k brb gonna try that
[19:42] <scunizi> george_: did you see what neurobuntu posted?  so sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[19:42] <neurobuntu> Gartral, the knoppix live cd doesn't have something like transmission
[19:42] <frostburn> thewrath, because it's easy to configure, and a nice pretty ui for every option.  your alternative is to learn bind.   it does have a dns server, you can get the addon for it
[19:43] <cbo> hi
[19:43] <Gartral> neurobuntu: knoppix wont connect to the internet, im sorry, i should have pointed this out, im on my fathers machine, accross the house, and it runs windows
[19:43] <space_cadet> George_   nvidia-glx-180
[19:43] <thewrath> frostburn: did not see that abotu the addon. i know bind i just have brush up my skills. my one networking class we did setuff with bind
[19:43] <neurobuntu> Gartral, ok well contact a local computer store and see if they have complimentary Ubuntu cd's laying around
[19:44] <thewrath> have to find my book and brush up my skills
[19:44] <neurobuntu> Gartral, or better yet download utorrent on the windows CD and download it that way
[19:44] <thewrath> frostburn: bind is not hard either if i remember correctly>
[19:44] <Kaedenn> Hi. Where do I put a command if I want it to run on boot, as root? This is a fanspeed command for a laptop, and is vital to the laptop not overheating.
[19:44] <neurobuntu> Gartral, err... download uTorrent for windows and get the CD that way
[19:44] <Kaedenn> Putting it in /etc/rc.local doesn't have any effect. It's as if it isn't there.
[19:44] <Heston> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 and whenever I boot it up, my bios clock is changed 4 hours ahead which of course is throwing off all my other OSs. What have I done wrong?
[19:44] <oDesk> hello i'm on 9.04  update-manager -d  prints error "GtkWarning: could not open display"
[19:44] <Gartral> neurobuntu: i know they dont, and my dads system is locked, he was mad that i had to open pidgin...
[19:45] <cbo> Does anybody can tell me, is it ok that apache2 daemon runned under root account(other instance under www-data)?
[19:45] <Pici> oDesk : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[19:45] <Pici> cbo: www-data
[19:45] <space_cadet> Rifo0, well that page may help..  hopefully the list of "backdoor bios passwords" can clear you up... otherwise it would be a matter of flashing the bios, or shorting out a pin or two (dangerous)
[19:45] <neurobuntu> Gartral, then your pretty much stuck...
[19:45] <neurobuntu> Gartral, try looking up to find out if their is a local linux users group[
[19:45] <oDesk> Pici: ok, thanks
[19:46] <neurobuntu> Gartral, or just download the CD straight up from the ubuntu servers
[19:46] <minazo> just curious as '/bin/bash' or '/usr/bin/vim' doesn't work. Geany is good enough though. Thanks scunizi. I'll google it some more.
[19:47] <JockyWilson> Avast windows version is always running, Ubuntu only on demand ?
[19:48] <thewrath> frostburn: is that addon a gui interface or no?
[19:48] <george-> ok i install nvidia-glx-180 but when ubuntu boots into xwin i still get a blank screen with a box that says "Input Not Supported"
[19:48] <frostburn> no, default
[19:48] <cbo> Does anybody can tell me, is it ok that apache2 daemon runned under root account(other instance under www-data)?
[19:48] <d6chung> Hi, is there a way to kill (or restart) X remotely? I tried restarting gdm but that did nothing and killing (with -9) Xorg doesn't seem to do anything.
[19:49] <hbekel> cbo: yes, it's ok
[19:49] <cbo> hbekel ... and the same about nginx?
[19:49] <Heston> uhm..I would not recommend running apache under root
[19:49] <Gartral> d6chung: ctrl-alt-backspace
[19:49] <d6chung> Gartral: "remotely"
[19:50] <scunizi> d6chung: logging into the remote machine with ssh and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start or stop should do it.
[19:50] <hbekel> cbo: i don't know that
[19:50] <d6chung> scunizi: Tried that.
[19:50] <Gartral> d6chung: kill -9 gdm from a terminal (ssh or local)
[19:50] <scunizi> d6chung: what happened?
[19:50] <d6chung> The Xorg process is what's killing my CPU at the moment.
[19:50] <cbo> Heston I have VPS and I don't know to do that
[19:50] <Mezaker> Guys i have got a problem with NTFS
[19:50] <hbekel> Heston: afaik only the main thread runs as root, all the serving threads switch to www-data
[19:50] <Mezaker> the files i have does't appere in linux
[19:50] <lightpriest_> d6chung, killall X
[19:50] <d6chung> Stopping gdm caused my gnome-session to end but what's left is Xorg.
[19:50] <d6chung> lightpriest_: Tried that too.
[19:51] <Mezaker> but appers inwindows
[19:51] <kk_ubuntu> hello, can some one tell me how do i run my tata indicom plug2 surff usb modem in ubuntu 9.04?  I am using hardy currently and used to do wvdialconf for configuring the modem.
[19:51] <Gartral> d6chung: may need to sudo that
[19:51] <lightpriest_> killall Xorg? :P
[19:51] <george-> I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu Studio but when it boots into desktop i get a blank screen that says "Input Not Supported"
[19:51] <george-> anyone know the fix?
[19:51] <d6chung> Er, yeah, that's what I meant.
[19:51] <Rolie> cbo, apache needs to start as remote (otherwise it could not set up listening connection on port 80) but as soon as possible, it should automatically setuid to www-data
[19:51] <blap> can someone please explain to me how I can set my samba username and password so I can access my computer from other windows machines in my network!?
[19:51] <d6chung> But yeah, sudo kill -9 Xorg doesn't do anything.
[19:51] <d6chung> The process is not defunct.
[19:51] <cbo> hbekel You're right but I saw screnshots of "top" and all instances of apaches was runned under www-data
[19:51] <lightpriest_> d6chung, what the top process in `top`?
[19:51] <d6chung> XOrg
[19:51] <d6chung> 100% CPU usage.
[19:52] <Mezaker> Hi,Guys i have got some Serious problem with NTFS i can't use alot of space
[19:52] <kk_ubuntu> i did not find wvdial in ubuntu 9.04 so i don't know how to connect my usb modem.
[19:52] <lightpriest_> it looks like a 0 (zero)
[19:52] <lightpriest_> what is it's pid?
[19:52] <blap> when I go to access this computer I get prompted with a login screen and I dont know how to set the username and password to log in!
[19:52] <lightpriest_> just kill it
[19:52] <d6chung> lightpriest_: 5451. Tried it numerous times with -9.
[19:53] <lightpriest_> d6chung, that doesn't make sense
[19:53] <d6chung> lightpriest_: I know, that's why it's bugging me!
[19:53] <kk_ubuntu> i saw in network that i could select my modem but after that i don't find the way to activate it
[19:53] <cbo> Rolie, How can I implement that behaviour?
[19:53] <Gartral> d6chung: try kill 5451 -15
[19:53] <lightpriest_> d6chung, kill -9 is the "unknown" signal and it should kill it instantly
[19:53] <Rumbel> will ubuntu run on p2 ?
[19:53] <Rolie> cbo, it is default behaviour. what makes you think it now runs as root all the time?
[19:53] <laclasse_> Rumbel, should do.
[19:53] <lightpriest_> d6chung, does it have a parent process?
[19:54] <d6chung> Gartral. lightpriest_: I think I lost my machine now...
[19:54] <Rumbel> what about the new upcoming ubuntu 9 ?
[19:54] <lightpriest_> d6chung, type ps -efx
[19:54] <lightpriest_> d6chung, it should display a tree of processes
[19:54] <laclasse_> Rumbel, runs on 486 but Pentium (i586 is recommened). i686 starts at Pentium+ so P2 is i686, just give it some ram :)
[19:54] <lightpriest_> d6chung, bahh
[19:54] <d6chung> Well... the SysRq sequence worked.
[19:55] <hbekel> cbo: apache needs to run as root if you want to bind it to a priviledged port (lower than 1024), and since port 80 is the default...
[19:55] <d6chung> But had to go there physically to do it...
[19:55] <Rumbel> laclasse today i will see this p2.. didnot check it yet ^_^ .. from friend..
[19:55] <cbo> Rolie, hmm it is not my case :( i have ubuntu 8.04(Hardy) on VPS and apache2 runned automatically from the script 1st instace runned under root, 2nd under www-data
[19:55] <ScribbleJ> Simple question, I've got a machine that had ubuntu on it, now has Windows installed on a 2nd drive; is there a simple way to get grub to run the way it does in the installer, deec the windows prition and give me an option to boot to it?
[19:55] <xnmrph> Hi. I'm having a problem with mdadm - anyone assist, please?
[19:56] <wladimir> hola
[19:56] <cbo> hbekel: I use apache as back-end on 8080
[19:56] <wladimir> algien me puede ayudar
[19:56] <d6chung> Yeah, I don't know what happened. I just came in this morning with the machine seemingly frozen but I could ssh into it. I stopped gdm and the screen appeared to have cleared but nothing. So then I tried killing Xorg without success.
[19:56] <enterneo> do we have conversation themes for pidgin?
[19:56] <Rolie> cbo, I think that's oke, I have the same
[19:56] <djuggler> every time I do something in my terminal I get a response "sudo: unable to resolve ohst renoir"  renoir being the name of the machine. Does this raise any flags?
[19:56] <hbekel> cbo: have you read the documentation, then? I'm sure you can configure it not to run as root if you want to
[19:57] <djuggler> my commands still seem to work
[19:57] <Rolie> cbo, the first controlling process indeed runs as root all the time but detaches childs/threads/whatever as www-data.
[19:57] <Rumbel> what the defferance from ubuntu 8 and upcoming 9 ? ..
[19:57] <joaopinto> djuggler, yes, your hostname is not on /etc/hosts as it should
[19:57] <scunizi> Rumbel: 1
[19:58] <rumpel> wh0ot?
[19:58] <assad> can anyone tell me the IRC channel for nabble
[19:58] <cbo> hbekel I'll appreciate if u give me the link to the documentation (I can't find it with google and faq)
[19:58] <Rumbel> haha.. what else
[19:58] <picca-> so any hidden links yet to download ubuntu 9.04 (final)
[19:58] <hbekel> cbo: are you kidding me?
[19:58] <scunizi> the difference between 8 & 9 = 1
[19:58] <albertico> hi guys... can someone give me a starting point for making a ubuntu iso with some extra apps installed and configured?
[19:58] <Rumbel> in features
[19:59] <Nikola> Is Ubuntu good for Laptops ( the new Jaunty Jackalope) ?
[19:59] <cbo> hbekel: I'm paranoid about security and newbee in *nix sorry for my stupid wishes :(
[19:59] <Napster> ofcourse..
[19:59] <scunizi> Rumbel: faster boot times.. some backend internal changes.. newer versions of the installed packages like Oo 3.0
[19:59] <canttakeitany> is it out yet?
[19:59] <wladimir> hablan o escriben español
[19:59] <Veeyawn> Has anyone seen the ATI 9.3 drivers work in Jaunty?
[19:59] <scunizi> !es | wladimir
[19:59] <hbekel> cbo: if you were you had read the docs before asking here.
[19:59] <canttakeitany> omg i need ubuntu 9.04 rite now!!!!
[20:00] <rumpel> !lol > canadiandude
[20:00] <picca-> i need 9.04 now
[20:00] <rumpel> ups
[20:00] <Nikola> Relax guys...
[20:00] <xnmrph> HI. I'm having a problem with mdadm / raid1 - can anyone assist, please?
[20:00] <Pici> !outyet | picca- canttakeitany
[20:00] <rumpel> damn tab completion
[20:00] <Rolie> cbo: if you really don't want to run even the first instance as root, you cannot use a port < 1024, did you know?
[20:01] <austin_> yo i have compiz and want beryl how can i do that?
[20:01] <albertico> hi guys... can someone give me a starting point for making an ubuntu iso with some extra apps installed and configured?
[20:01] <tywashere> does anyone know how to get PCM controlls on my sbaudigy? It isnt in "alsamixer"  :\
[20:01] <mib_ug8liuo6> running ubuntu 8.10, i installed privoxy the http filter but i get this error "No logfile configured. Please enable it before reporting any problems" when i run "sudo /etc/init.d/privoxy start"
[20:01] <scunizi> austin_: beryl is depreciated..
[20:01] <leejongwook> how long (?)
[20:01] <mib_ug8liuo6> any idea guys
[20:01] <cbo> Rolie, Yes, I do, (I've use 8080 for apache)
[20:01] <Rumbel> what the countdown time for ubuntu 9.04 .. i cant wait
[20:01] <leejongwook> how many hours to get 9.04 ?
[20:02] <Pici> !outyet | Rumbel leejongwook
[20:02] <Rolie> cbo: then, have a look at: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mpm_common.html#user
[20:02] <tywashere> 24 hours
[20:02] <Rumbel> leejongwook lol
[20:02] <bob_> albertico try using remmastersys backup
[20:02] <rumpel> !outyet | rumpel
[20:02] <leejongwook> hi pici ~
[20:02] <Gartral> do these ISOs have the latest updates included?
[20:02] <cbo> hbekel sure, i have read, but i have not found anything :(
[20:03] <Pici> Gartral: No
[20:03] <Gartral> Pici: crap
[20:03] <scunizi> Gartral: just do the updates
[20:03] <Gartral> scunizi: the updates are what broke my computer
[20:04] <oshua86_> I got this ntfs harddrive connected via usb that I cant mount fdisk-l gives me the following
[20:04] <oshua86_> /dev/sdb1   ?           1       41345   312568168+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[20:04] <kk_ubuntu> can some one tell me if it is possible at all to start usb modems without wvdial?
[20:04] <oshua86_> why would i not be able to mount?
[20:04] <kk_ubuntu> ubuntu 9.04 does not seem to have it and even 8.10 does not
[20:05] <cbo> Rolie: I did it before (I have User www-data and Group www-data in my apache2.conf) but main instance is still executed under root account
[20:05] <scunizi> kk_ubuntu: Hardy does.. maybe enable backports and check or find and compile it yourself
[20:06] <_Nihil_> hi everyone
[20:06] <mupa> Q: i want to connect to a vpn but the vpn "add" option in network manager is greyed out
[20:06] <laclasse> kk_ubuntu, wv_dial is only a front end to ppp script, your modem should be handled by Network Manager in those releases
[20:06] <Boo78> hi... how do i prevent the volumemanager to come up with a popup when i watch a fullscreen movie? It makes the desktop appear for a few seconds
[20:06] <Boo78> that is quite annoying
[20:06] <thewrath> what about using no-ip.org with a mail server i would have on my ubuntu server at my house, is this possible>
[20:06] <_Nihil_> i cannot find the link with the wiki that explains the procedure to run ubuntu live on an usb stick. can anyone give me that link?
[20:06] <dassouki> how can i change my visual settings, i want to do the 3d box when going between panels
[20:07] <Sh3r1ff> !compiz | dassouki
[20:07] <rumpel> @thewrath does no-ip.org forward more than port 80 for websites?
[20:07] <scunizi> !ccsm | dassouki
[20:07] <Rolie> cbo: you should not actually use that directive, but the text says that if you start apache as normal user, that directive would not have any effect and pages will be served as the user the main process is started with
[20:08] <Rolie> cbo: you need to think outside apache and start it as the user you want to.
[20:08] <manuel2567> ciao
[20:08] <Sh3r1ff> rumpel: no-ip.org and dyndns and consorts translate your dns to a dynamic ip, it has nothing to do with ports
[20:08] <hbekel> cbo: just run apachectl start as a non-root user. You'll need to make sure though that logfile locations/etc are writeable...
[20:09] <dassouki> ubottu: thanks
[20:09] <rumpel> @sh3r1ff good to know.. tnx
[20:09] <dassouki> oops
[20:09] <dassouki> that's the bot
[20:09] <GeorgeA> How do I disable trace on apache, I tried adding: "TraceEnable off" in httpd.conf but it still didn't work (I'm using apache 2.2.9)
[20:09] <Gartral> should i burn this ISO as track at once, or disk at once?
[20:09] <cbo> Rolie, hbekel: thanks a lot guys, I'll try it now
[20:09] <Gartral> track at once is default
[20:09] <_Nihil_> i cannot find the link with the wiki that explains the procedure to run ubuntu live on an usb stick. can anyone give me that link?
[20:10] <afief> Anybody else experiencing pidgin crashing on startup?
[20:10] <george> I get "Input not supported" when ubuntu boots into xwin... is there a manual xconfig or xconfigurator like back in the day with most linux distros?
[20:10] <racecar56> "The panel encountered a problem while loadng OAFIID:GNOME_WorkspaceSwitcherApplet, Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration?" WHAAAAT?
[20:10] <Boo78> when i keep updating the RC will i eventually end up with the final version (i upgraded from 8.10) or should i just do a fresh install?
[20:11] <joaopinto> Boo78, you will get the final version with the updates
[20:11] <ripps> !beta
[20:12] <hbekel> george: check your xorg.conf, you might want to disable input htplugging for a start
[20:12] <george> hbekel: k what would be the command to do so>
[20:13] <hbekel> george: google knows
[20:13] <george> hbekel: how do i surf google if i cant get into xwin
[20:13] <hbekel> george: use links (text mode browser)
[20:13] <scunizi> george: elinks is a cli browser
[20:13] <george> k
[20:14] <george> brb
[20:14] <vart> _Nihil_ : like this https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html
[20:14] <austin_> im trying to install a theme OSX leopard theme but it gives me this when i click install "OSX Leopard" does not appear to be a valid theme.
[20:14] <zzaza> hi all
[20:15] <Gartral> austin_: its a filename, meaning it wants an extension
[20:15] <austin_> what kind?
[20:15] <oshua86_> anyone can help me a couple of minutes with my device mount problem?>
[20:15] <Gartral> austin_: probably something like OSX Leopard.bz2
[20:15] <Abueleitor> hey, someone knows if nvidia 8600 is supported in ubuntu
[20:16] <Abueleitor> hey, someone knows if nvidia 8600 is supported in ubuntu
[20:16] <racecar56> (sorry for repeat, didnt look at messages and i cant scroll) "The panel encountered a problem while loadng OAFIID:GNOME_WorkspaceSwitcherApplet, Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration?" WHAAAAT?
[20:16] <racecar56> not me
[20:16] <scunizi> Abueleitor: yes
[20:16] <Abueleitor> hey, someone knows if nvidia 8600 is supported in ubuntu
[20:16] <Gartral> racecar56: that really shouldnt happen
[20:16] <Abueleitor> uhnnnm thanks
[20:16] <scunizi> !repeat | Abueleitor
[20:16] <austin_> its a .tar.gz now
[20:17] <racecar56> Gartral, oh and it is ubuntu 8.04.2
[20:17] <stickboy> Hello. I just installed XAMPP on ubuntu 8.10 desktop. i already had mysql, php, and apache installed but due to a repository issue with php couldn't get them to work together, so i tried xampp. but now i'm unsure of how to administer the mysql databases from command line, when i try to connect to the xampp mysql my comp tries to connect to the stopped version. any ideas? thanks for the help.
[20:17] <Abueleitor> i said thanks
[20:18] <guntbert> !xampp | stickboy
[20:18] <abcd-pc> czesc
[20:18] <zzaza> what desktop recording program with audio suits a beginner using ubuntu 8.10
[20:18] <Gartral> ok, going to fix desktop, wish me luck
[20:19] <Abueleitor> just one more question, i have a texas instruments wireless wifi card, is it supported in ubuntu?
[20:19] <stickboy> thanks guntbert
[20:19] <austin_> trying to open it and save as .bz2 it says An error occurred while adding files to the archive.
[20:19] <Beererde> how do i get the current installed nvidia driver version?
[20:20] <Abueleitor> sorry, the problem is that i can see the networks but i cannot connect
[20:20] <guntbert> !hardware | Abueleitor
[20:20] <austin_> nvm i got it i think
[20:20] <scunizi> zzaza: recordmydesktop
[20:20] <Abueleitor> ok, i have just tested it with a live cd, and its seens to be supported, but has a problem
[20:21] <fincan> any news about the time?
[20:21] <Pici> !outyet > fincan
[20:21] <Abueleitor> i can see the wifi nets but i cannot connect, even if it has no wep
[20:21] <hbekel> Beererde: nvidia-settings
[20:21] <scunizi> Pici: you put that on shortcut keys yet? :)
[20:21] <cbo> hbekel, Rolie, Can I run automatically apache(8080) under www-data on startup?
[20:21] <austin_> yea that didnt work still says "OSX Leopard" does not appear to be a valid theme.
[20:21] <wladimir> ubuntu-es
[20:21] <zzaza> scunizi, thanks i will give it a try, how is the audio part of it
[20:22] <scunizi> zzaza: not sure.. never used it myself
[20:22] <Beererde> hbekel: thx
[20:22] <zzaza> scunizi, thanks anyway
[20:22] <Bob__> hea guys im having trouble installing flash player anyone have any idea what to do?
[20:22] <fincan> great the bot is active, party time! xD
[20:23] <Rolie> cbo: sure, you need to change the startup script and use sudo (I think?)
[20:23] <zzaza> bob_, are using the browser if yes then just download the .deb and install it
[20:24] <Bob__> i tryd that it wont install
[20:24] <wladimir> COMO CANBION DE SALA A UBUNUTU-ES
[20:24] <hbekel> Rolie: should work
[20:24] <guntbert> Abueleitor: I'm not good with those things, so just one question to keep you busy :-) Are you using network-manager?
[20:24] <Abueleitor> yes
[20:24] <Beererde> i'm trying to find out which cards are supported by nvidia-glx-180, like this site: http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/intrepid/nvidia-glx-173
[20:24] <hhlp> wladimir, -> /join #ubuntu-es
[20:24] <Abueleitor> default with ubuntu
[20:24] <zzaza> Bob__, are u runnig x386 or X64
[20:25] <Bob__> x64
[20:25] <neodemi> ive managed to temporarily solve my earlier problem of not being able to write to my external drive, if if do 'sudo nautilus' and browse to the drive via that i can copy to it. is there a flag or permission i can apply that makes all users able to copy, not just root/
[20:25] <guntbert> Abueleitor: and iwlist scan shows the net(s)?
[20:25] <Abueleitor> yes, they show me the nets, even mine, but cannot connect
[20:25] <zzaza> Bob__,  the same problem but check out at the ubuntu main forum
[20:25] <Rolie> cbo: the only thing is that these startup scripts (/etc/init.d/apache2) use apachectl as mediator, mmm
[20:26] <Abueleitor> i dont know why
[20:26] <guntbert> Abueleitor: "can't connect": are getting the green dots - both or one?
[20:26] <guntbert> *are you
[20:26] <Abueleitor> none of them
[20:26] <Abueleitor> there is always the loop
[20:27] <Bob__> and also how do io install the Cube program again?
[20:27] <Bob__> compiz right?
[20:27] <scunizi> !ccsm | Bob__
[20:27] <nabil> salut tt le monde
[20:27] <guntbert> Abueleitor: the loop *without* green dots?
[20:27] <Abueleitor> yes
[20:28] <Abueleitor> no green dots
[20:28] <nabil> why ?
[20:28] <Gartral> im really having problems today, my cd im trying right now wont load, its just an orange box scrolling back and forth on my monitor
[20:29] <nabil> i have a big probleme whit my xubuntu
[20:29] <nabil> can you help me plz ?
[20:29] <pepperjack> nabil: whats the problem
[20:29] <blackest> Gartral:  you may need to google your hardware to see if there are any issues with it
[20:29] <russo> hi all if i have a cron weekly tab and a cron monthly tab, will they be executed simotaneously once a month?
[20:29] <nabil> the problem is whit my panel Xfc4
[20:29] <djuggler> I have ubuntu desktop and have added apache/mysql/php but I can't figure out where the webroot is...how do I confirm or find it?
[20:29] <Bob__> root@Bob:~# sudo install compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:29] <Bob__> install: missing destination file operand after `compizconfig-settings-manager'
[20:29] <Bob__>  i keep getting that
[20:30] <pepperjack> nabil: not showing up?
[20:30] <Pici> Bob__: sudo apt-get install packgagename
[20:30] <nabil> yes but not like of the begining
[20:30] <neurobuntu> sudo apt-get install <package>
[20:30] <neurobuntu> Bob__, ^
[20:30] <blackest> djuggler: open localhost in your browser
[20:30] <guntbert> Abueleitor: sorry, haven't encountered this before, do you see anything in the logs?
[20:31] <blackest> djuggler:  should be in /var/lib/www  i think
[20:31] <racecar56> why did the first ubuntu use xfree86?
[20:31] <djuggler> right. I get the "It works!" website loading. I now want to move files over from my old dev box to this one.
[20:31] <Abueleitor> no i have no see them, but i think must be some kind of driver problems
[20:31] <Rolie> russo, no. Only once in a while when the start of a week is on the 1st of a new month.
[20:31] <Abueleitor> the default driver seems to dont work
[20:31] <Gartral> blackest: i was running ubuntu just fine till today
[20:32] <scunizi> djuggler: website files typically go into /var/www
[20:32] <Abueleitor> i will try with nswrappr
[20:32] <zzaza> Bob__,  did u fix the flash installation
[20:32] <blackest> Gartral: change of version ?
[20:32] <Bob__> no im not shure how to still let me open a private chat wiith you too much chatter....
[20:32] <Abueleitor> maybe i will have some chance to solve the problem
[20:33] <scunizi> !who | Bob__
[20:33] <scunizi> !tab | Bob__
[20:33] <Gartral> blackest: nop, 8.10\
[20:33] <pepperjack> nabil: you can right-click on the panel and select properties and change all kinds of stuff.  if you want it to go back to the default panel before you changed anything you can probably just rm or mv the config folder.  im not sure what that is for xfce.  open a terminal and do a ls -a command if you see a .xfce or a .config then do a mv $home/.config $home/.config-bak  and then alt-ctrl-backspace to restart X.  might work sorry 
[20:33] <blackest> Gartral:  maybe try edit the boot line so theres no splash and see if you can find out where it hangs
[20:33] <Gartral> trying 8.10 right now, wont load
[20:33] <djuggler> I'm good https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[20:33] <racecar56> !requirements
[20:33] <Raylz> hi, when i ssh to my server i get a ssh: connect to host 85.126.206.52 port 22: Connection refused
[20:33] <Gartral> blackest: how do i do that when booting a live cd?
[20:34] <Raylz> port forwarding is activated
[20:34] <Raylz> openssh-server is running
[20:34] <bercik> Is somebody here, who could help me to install open ati driver please?
[20:34] <Raylz> and sshd: ALL is standing in hosts.allow
[20:34] <blackest> Gartral: tried safe mode ?
[20:34] <racecar56> bercik, it comes with ubuntu
[20:34] <scunizi> Raylz: is the server on a dhcp router..?  I have that problem at home.. the ip address changes
[20:34] <Raylz> scampbell: ip adress is not the problem
[20:34] <bercik> racecar56: but i dont have 3D support 0.o
[20:34] <pepperjack> Raylz: sudo apt-get install nmap; nmap 85.126.206.52  will tell you if you can even reach it or ssh is listening on that port
[20:35] <guntbert> Abueleitor: ok, maybe somebody else will be able to help, btw: if you talk to one person put the nick in front (in my case type gun<tab>), so hat person get alerted :)
[20:35] <racecar56> bercik, the open one dosent have full 3d support
[20:35] <Raylz> is it sshd: ALL or ssh: ALL
[20:35] <Raylz> in hosts.allow?
[20:35] <blackest> Gartral i think you can use e  but i'm not sure to be honest
[20:35] <Kai_wp> Still no luck with Compiz Fusion here. Here's was happens when I try to enable it: http://pastebin.com/d7026d56f
[20:35] <Kai_wp> I'm running with an XFX Nvidia 8600 GT XXX.
[20:35] <bercik> racecar56: so i cannot get full 3D if i cannot fglrx?:F
[20:35] <Gartral> blackest: 1) i was in ubuntu earlier, it loads to busy box, 2) my uuids seem not to register after lastnights update.. 3) i just need back into my system
[20:36] <scampbell> Raylz: iptables isn't in the way is it?
[20:36] <Raylz> scampbell: its a jaunty installation
[20:36] <Raylz> no iptables
[20:36] <Kai_wp> And on Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope release candidate.
[20:36] <pepperjack> bercik: full 3d no but ive been very happy with the new open drivers for ati recently for 2d stuff.
[20:36] <blackest> sounds like it might not know where the boot drive is
[20:36] <Pici> !jaunty | Raylz Kai_wp
[20:36] <lewench> My new DiNovo from Logitech has just arrived. I can't seem to pair it to my Asus EEE PC 1000. I have paired my mouse before and it seems to work right. But when i try the DiNovo it asks for a passkey (I put 0000) then when I try to bond it says failed. I have ubuntu 8.10
[20:36] <bercik> pepperjack: but i wanted to play games..
[20:36] <Raylz> picca: pls stop kidding me
[20:37] <Raylz> :)
[20:37] <Raylz> release is today
[20:37] <Raylz> so nvm
[20:37] <FloodBot2> Raylz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:37] <zzaza> need help to get my fingerprint reader working i have installed fprint-demo when i run it i get an error no device found any suggestions
[20:37] <Sniper606> Whats a good .chm viewer for Linux?
[20:37] <racecar56> bercik, right
[20:37] <pepperjack> bercik: sorry all my exp was with 2d.  3d might work ive just never used it for my home theatre pc
[20:37] <hhlp> Sniper606, xchm it a good one
[20:37] <Pici> Raylz: Jaunty is still offtopic for this channel until the release happens.
[20:37] <scampbell> Raylz: you can always up LogLevel an see what it says.  typcially the 'connection refused' indicates that 1) ssh isn't running, 2) firewall blocks the port, 3) ssh is configured to not listen on that interface
[20:38] <blackest> Sniper606: freader maybe i don't  like it since you cant keyboard to next thou
[20:38] <quibbler> Sniper606: FBreader
[20:39] <bercik> So maybe last more question: how do i downgrade to X 1.5?
[20:39] <Raylz> scampbell: is there an other file that i have to consider besides /etc/hosts.allow
[20:39] <scampbell> sshd_config
[20:39] <zzaza> need help to get my fingerprint reader working i have installed fprint-demo when i run it i get an error no device found any suggestions
[20:39] <laclasse> Kai_wp,  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/316214
[20:40] <lewench> My new DiNovo from Logitech has just arrived. I can't seem to pair it to my Asus EEE PC 1000. I have paired my mouse before and it seems to work right. But when i try the DiNovo it asks for a passkey (I put 0000) then when I try to bond it says failed. I have ubuntu 8.10
[20:40] <Raylz> scampbell: and /etc/hosts.allow?
[20:41] <Raylz> scampbell: is it sshd or ssh?
[20:41] <Raylz> scampbell: since its ssh in /etc/init.d
[20:41] <racecar56> ssh
[20:41] <sv_osusr1> can some one advice on  the following compile error  http://pastebin.com/d2e6a6f6f   -> magnifier
[20:41] <psychic> hi i have some serious tech problems with ubuntu
[20:41] <scampbell> Raylz: i would turn up the loglevel in /etc/sshd_config and restart your ssh server. Then attempt the connect, go look at log, if the ssh server got the connect request than it will tell you why it refused, If it never got it (ie no messages) then look at tcp wrappers.
[20:41] <blackest> lewench: is that the default pass code or is that a guess at what it might be?
[20:42] <Raylz> scampbell: ok ty
[20:42] <scampbell> Raylz: also, as a sanity check, run tcpdump -n port 22  on your server just to make sure the packet actually reaches your host.
[20:42] <scampbell> or wireshark if that's more comfortable :)
[20:42] <lewench> blackest, Guess. The passkey is not written in the instruction as it suggests you should use the USB device.
[20:42] <psychic> i have been trying to get back in xchat ubuntu channel for the past 18 hrs
[20:42] <Raylz> scampbell: problem is that i have to explain a newbie how to set it up
[20:43] <Raylz> his sitting in front of the server
[20:43] <psychic> i finaly found a forum that said i could do it through pidgin
[20:43] <bercik> How do i downgrade to X1.5 please?
[20:43] <psychic> is anyone not preocupied
[20:43] <psychic> ?
[20:43] <zaggynl> just ask psychic
[20:43] <zaggynl> !ask
[20:43] <psychic> ok with the ubottu
[20:44] <Gartral> my system is refusing to load ubuntu
[20:44] <blackest> lewench:  then your issue is finding the pass code only 9999 to go, google the device name and pairing
[20:44] <psychic> my display reverted to 800x600 and wont go back my desktop icons disappeared i have a bad line somewhere... this all happened yesterday
[20:45] <happyhessian> i have what i think is a very simple problem but i keep getting stuck trying to solve it:  i have a whole bunch of ps files and i'd like to turn them in to a single pdf file, preferably without having to sample them out of vector-scaling
[20:45] <lewench> blackest, I got it. You have to type the key on the Dinovo and hit enter.
[20:45] <scampbell> Raylz: here's a trick then.  Allow the user to ssh into your box.  Have them use   ssh -R2222:127.0.0.1:22 username@yourbox.  Then you can ssh to port 2222 on your local system and ride the tunnel back :)
[20:45] <bercik> How to downgrade some package?
[20:45] <nztal> i got a laptop that has a recovery partition at the end of the drive, instead of at the beginning.  is it ok to install ubuntu at the beginning of the drive, if i have recovery discs ?
[20:45] <happyhessian> convert samples down (i can't figure out how to stop it from doing so) and i don't see how i can get ps2pdf to take a bunch of ps files and make one pdf from them
[20:45] <arunreddy> Any one running Ubuntu 9.04 on Dell XPS ?
[20:45] <arunreddy> Any one running Ubuntu 9.04 on Dell XPS ?
[20:46] <pepperjack> psychic: tried the good old dpkg-reconfigure phigh xserver-xorg  ?
[20:46] <racecar56> im running 9.04rc but not on a dell at all, i dont even have a dell anything here ._o
[20:46] <Gartral> blackest: well... that was fail... all kernal payload give the same error
[20:46] <psychic> i thinkhow do i make myself root
[20:46] <bob_> so is 9.04 as fast at booting as they say it is?
[20:47] <psychic> i thought i was already
[20:47] <Raylz> scampbell: i cant open port 22 here^^
[20:47] <Pici> !jaunty
[20:47] <Gartral> blackest: http://gar.pastebin.com/m261cdc5b
[20:47] <Raylz> scampbell: tcpdump: listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes
[20:47] <Raylz> scampbell: good sign?
[20:47] <manmaknet> help
[20:48] <scampbell> Raylz: that means it's listening to eth0.  If you attempt to ssh to it you should see the packet dump, if you don't see then there is probably a firewall in your way.
[20:48] <psychic> can some one tell me how to make myself root in terminal
[20:48] <Pici> !sudo | psychic
[20:48] <blackest> Gartral:   looks like the uuid of your hdd has changed
[20:48] <pepperjack> happyhessian: what about something like concatonating using ghostscript so you have a single ps file?
[20:49] <coleys> heyyy
[20:49] <blackest> Gartral:  how many hdds in the system ?
[20:49] <Raylz> scampbell: i still get Connection refused, so i guess its the firewall
[20:49] <Gartral> blackest: thats  what i thought, but it hasent
[20:49] <manmaknet> i am a newbie in Linux....can anyone help me understand install/uninstall software?
[20:49] <pepperjack> happyhessian: ive not used gs for that myself but like gs -sOutputFile=new.ps file1.ps file2.ps file3.ps ?
[20:49] <alias_willsmith> Anyone else having problems with Jaunty and Ati?  I'm using a dv2 Pavillion laptop and keep getting X screen garbage on startup.  Can't even get Vesa driver to work...
[20:49] <Gartral> blackest: even the live cd drops to busybox and ash
[20:49] <racecar56> i have ati working fine
[20:49] <racecar56> fglrx
[20:49] <alias_willsmith> With Jaunty?
[20:50] <racecar56> yes
[20:50] <alias_willsmith> What hardware?
[20:50] <racecar56> updated from intrepid
[20:50] <racecar56> wait a sec..
[20:50] <blackest> Gartral have you tried reinstalling grub, guess your stuck if live cd will not boot either.
[20:50] <St0n3-C0l> at what time jaunty will release?
[20:50] <racecar56> !notyet > St0n3-C0l
[20:50] <Pici> !isitout | St0n3-C0l
[20:50] <happyhessian> pepperjack: I tried that with an output to pdf, maybe that was my problem.  do you have to list them individually or can you wild-card them?
[20:50] <Gartral> blackest: can i reinstall grub through busybox?
[20:50] <bercik> alias_willsmith: whats You graphic card?
[20:50] <scampbell> Raylz: it means it's someone elses firewall.  If the iptables (local fireall on the Linux box) was stoping it then tcpdump would still see the packet.  The fact that you dont' tells us that the packet never made it to that system, it was blocked somewhere in the network.
[20:50] <racecar56> alias_willsmith,  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV610 video device [Radeon HD 2400 PRO]
[20:51] <musikgoat|main> heh, i read that as i sit out...
[20:51] <pepperjack> happyhessian: im not sure but i would list individually unless you have like 200 of em
[20:51] <blackest> Gartral: I don't think I can help you maybe someone else can try
[20:51] <alias_willsmith> Radeon 3000 series
[20:51] <manmaknet> i am a newbie in Linux....can anyone help me understand install/uninstall software?
[20:51] <alias_willsmith> HD 3010 I believe
[20:51] <Gartral> blackest: your the thirdto try
[20:51] <racecar56> alias_willsmith, guessing wat i have?
[20:51] <racecar56> alias_willsmith, i have 2400 hd pro
[20:51] <Raylz> scampbell: could it be that my outgoing port 22 is closed?
[20:51] <happyhessian> pepperjack: right, i'll give it a shot
[20:51] <racecar56> alias_willsmith, i posted the lspci | grep VGA
[20:51] <Gartral> ima reload my system, smeg it, i can re tool vdmks
[20:51] <Raylz> scampbell: here in my network?
[20:52] <pepperjack> !software | manmaknet
[20:52] <blackest> Gartral: sounds like you need to rescue your data yes
[20:52] <musikgoat|main> manmaknet: what are you confused about?  Synaptic is the best tool to install software
[20:52] <scampbell> Raylz: certainly could be.
[20:52] <aLeSD> hi all
[20:53] <aLeSD> could you suggest me a ftp client different from gftp ?
[20:53] <pepperjack> manmaknet: ubuntu's package mangement is arguably best thing about it.  there is a ton of software available
[20:53] <blackest> Gartral: I'd pull the hdd and put it in a working sys even if its windows (you can get ext3 for windows) and pull your data off and try for a reinstall maybe with the alt cd
[20:53] <nztal> alias_willsmith, jaunty wouldn't work with my ati video card however i could get it to work with the alternate cd by dropping to a terminal and installing 'envyng-gtk' then sudo envyng -t  then applying the ATI driver from envy.  that was a solution that worked for me
[20:54] <bercik> I dont understand something: fglrx 9.3 needs Xorg 7.4. But i have got Xorg 7.4 (But with x server 1.6)
[20:54] <racecar56> jockey-gtk (or -kde) time
[20:54] <bercik> and doesnt wor
[20:54] <bercik> k
[20:54] <racecar56> jockey-gtk -e xorg:fglrx
[20:54] <racecar56> sudoing is optional
[20:54] <bercik> racecar56: is it solution for me?
[20:55] <racecar56> bercik, maybe
[20:55] <bercik> racecar56: You: it give no output. No friver availble
[20:55] <alias_willsmith> nztal...Thanks, I'll try that.
[20:55] <WilliamBlake> hi, when i connect the headphones, the speakers don't mute.
[20:56] <racecar56> bercik, "jockey-gtk -c && jockey-gtk -u" can check for more drivers...
[20:56] <racecar56> bercik, then try jockey-gtk -l
[20:56] <racecar56> bercik, it will list drivers
[20:56] <jensa> Hello! Is there anyone here that have some time for helping me out ? :)
[20:56] <happyhessian> pepperjack: it seems like you sent me in the right direction, here's a full command i just found http://www.sat.ltu.se/docs/mergemultiplepsorpdffiles.php
[20:56] <bercik> no output :P
[20:56] <racecar56> bercik, also please send me your lspci | grep VGA
[20:56] <blackest> WilliamBlake:  usually thats a module option such as module=acer but you need to google it
[20:56] <racecar56> jensa, just ask
[20:57] <scampbell> Raylz: apt-get tcptraceroute   then do   tcptraceroute <ipadress> 22     You will see the firewall that's blocking you or the router just before it.  Easy way to spot who's blocking you.
[20:57] <bercik> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Mobility Radeon X300]
[20:57] <fbc-mx> HI, saw last night that Jaunty had one more day to go and was expecting it to be available today. Does anyone know what the release time in gmt will be?
[20:57] <racecar56> ok...
[20:57] <pepperjack> happyhessian: ah.  cool
[20:57] <jensa> im using Kubuntu ( didnt find any livechat for kubuntu ) - and when im trying to install my realtek soundcodecs it fails, and i dont have any sound, not in mp3players or for example youtube.
[20:57] <racecar56> bercik, did intrepid work?
[20:58] <bercik> racecar56: it should. I dodnt try but i am almost sure
[20:58] <bercik> didnt
[20:58] <pedahzur> Long shot: anyone using a Dell E1705 (aka 9400) laptop with 4GB of RAM?  I can't find a straight answer as to whether or not Linux will see the full 4GB.  The CPU reports it has PAE, but I understand that the 3GB memory limit can also be a chipset issue too.
[20:58] <musikgoat|main> !isitout | fbc-mx
[20:58] <blackest> jensa: maybe google ubuntu forums install alsa 1.0.18  i think
[20:58] <pedahzur> ubottu: You're wrong. :)
[20:59] <jensa> blackest, it's installing alsa at the same time.
[20:59] <pedahzur> ubottu: I know you're a bot, I just thought I'd poke fun.
[20:59] <jensa> cause there is 3 alsa maps it's extracting and installing
[20:59] <Gartral> blackest: only problem with that plan is: thats my ONLY dektop
[20:59] <finiras> what program can i use to make a picture with my webcam
[20:59] <Raylz> scampbell: Selected device lo, address 192.168.0.101, port 36830 for outgoing packets
[20:59] <Raylz> Tracing the path to 192.168.0.101 on TCP port 22 (ssh), 30 hops max
[20:59] <Raylz> 1 192.168.0.101 [open] 0.102 ms 0.033 ms 0.024 ms
[21:00] <_XAXAB_O_P_E_X_> pedahzur if your OS is 32bit it will see up to 3,25gb ram. thats max. if u want to recognize the full capacity install 64bit OS
[21:00] <Gartral> blackest: i have no money, and no extra hardware
[21:00] <blackest> jensa: It can be alsa version may not support your sound well intrepid  had a few regressions with sound
[21:00] <finiras> how do i make a pic with my webcam in ubuntu!
[21:00] <WilliamBlake> hi, when i connect the headphones, the speakers don't mute.
[21:00] <jensa> hmm, okai. so i should install that alsa script, and THEN install the drivers for my soundcard?
[21:01] <musikgoat|main> finiras: install cheese
[21:01] <Gartral> finiras: cheese!
[21:01] <finiras> thx
[21:01] <blackest> jensa: alsa first
[21:01] <Raylz> scampbell: does that mean that on that pc port 22 is open?
[21:01] <jensa> blackest, alsa, alsa script, soundcard drivers? :))
[21:01] <_XAXAB_O_P_E_X_> jensa visit your hardware manufacturer to see if there are newer drivers.
[21:01] <bercik> racecar56: well, any conclusion?:)
[21:01] <scampbell> Raylz: 'device lo' is the loop back, that's wrong!
[21:02] <racecar56> bercik, i dont know
[21:02] <jensa> _XAXAB_O_P_E_X_ downloaded it yesterday
[21:02] <bercik> racecar56: and how to downgrade to xserver 1.5?
[21:02] <Raylz> scampbell: ah ok, so which ip do i need?
[21:02] <racecar56> bercik, i dont know
[21:02] <Raylz> scampbell: the pcs ip?
[21:02] <psychic1> pepperjack apparently that thing u told me about is not installed
[21:02] <blackest> Gartral: what ram is in that system ?
[21:02] <racecar56> bercik, using intrepid is only solution i can think of
[21:02] <Gartral> blackest: 512
[21:02] <pepperjack> psychic1: nmap?
[21:02] <pedahzur> _XAXAB_O_P_E_X_: I understand there can be a limitation, but right now I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 on a system with an Intel Pentium D and top reports that Linux sees 4154536k (3.96GB) of RAM.  So I wonder why in some cases it works, and in others it does not.
[21:03] <psychic1> dpkg-reconfigure phigh xserver-xorg
[21:03] <bercik> racecar56: good, but i wanted the new one
[21:03] <Gartral> blackest: its in busybox, again
[21:03] <Raylz> scampbell: solved, he reastarted the router
[21:03] <blackest> maybe a DSL disk to get you in maybe
[21:03] <bercik> Guys, how to downgrade some package?
[21:03] <scampbell> Raylz: I have to pretty soon but check your routing table.  Tcptraceroute tried to send a pcket destined for 192.168.0.101 through your loop back instead of your network interface, the routing table told it to do that.
[21:03] <vart> finiras: luvcview
[21:03] <scampbell> Raylz: er, I have to go pretty soon.
[21:03] <psychic1> how do i install it
[21:03] <pepperjack> psychic1: if xserver-xorg is not installed then that would be a good indication why you are having X problems :)
[21:04] <Gartral> blackest: i have no cds, i used the last one on an ubuntu disk
[21:04] <Raylz> scampbell: ye, ty i solved it by restarting the router dunno why it didtn work though
[21:04] <Raylz> scampbell: stupid router^^
[21:04] <blackest> Gartral: are you able to boot a live cd at all? or is it trying to start from hdd all the time
[21:04] <jensa> blackest, shit.. that alsa upgrade stuff was VERY advanced ;<
[21:04] <scampbell> Raylz: Awesome, I'm going home!
[21:04] <jensa> im new to Linux
[21:04] <Gartral> blackest: it drops to busybox FROM a live cd
[21:04] <pepperjack> psychic1: ah try just sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:04] <blackest> Gartral: I can do no more
[21:04] <musikgoat|main> !language | jensa
[21:05] <psychic1> my screen used to be at the larger display size it reverted and all kinds of other stuff happened i also ran out of diskspace i dont know if that had anything to do with it
[21:05] <psychic1> i cleared up 9 gigs now
[21:05] <Gartral> blackest: i dropped an nvidia 6200 xfx card into that box, could it be causing this?
[21:05] <blackest> maybe you could try switch it out
[21:05] <Gartral> (though i dont see how an AGP card is messing with my hdd)
[21:06] <Nikola94> Do i get a original CD when i request ubuntu free CD using ShipIT?
[21:06] <musikgoat|main> Nikola94: yes
[21:06] <Gartral> alright, i go switch back to the mx 400
[21:06] <musikgoat|main> Nikola94: but it can take some weeks to get it
[21:06] <pepperjack> Nikola94: those can take a while to ship sometimes
[21:06] <psychic1> i was using ha from some forum i dug up but it stoped going to the next thing at the keyboard part
[21:06] <musikgoat|main> Nikola94: i use it to grab some extra disks to pass out at school and work
[21:07] <musikgoat|main> but its quicker to find some how to burn it
[21:07] <coleys> What program would anyone suggest for burning dvd's that are compatible with dvd players?
[21:07] <musikgoat|main> brasero
[21:08] <jakesa> WW3
[21:08] <coleys> ohhh.. Nice that's allready included, thanks.. ill check it out.
[21:08] <musikgoat|main> coleys: oh sorry, like cloning?
[21:08] <coleys> Nah, like burning .avi or w/e ^_^ too... dvd format.
[21:09] <Typh> Growing increasingly frustrated with poor flash playback :(
[21:09] <musikgoat|main> coleys: you can try it, but in my experience, the older dvd players may not accept them
[21:09] <mun> hhi
[21:09] <mun> hi
[21:09] <coleys> Okay, ill give it a test go then, on a dvd player here.
[21:09] <jensa> Do anyone know why my soundcard drivers installation keep failing? I have installed Kubuntu-extras, picked different codecs, engines and everything, still no sound, and prob. it's the drivers, and they cant install ;< any idea?
[21:10] <mun> i just installed a new motherboard, but somehow i don't have eth0 anymore, but eth1 and eth2 instead. now i've connected to the modem on eth1, but i can't connect to the internet. does anyone know how to configure it?
[21:10] <pepperjack> coleys: there are a number of front ends available these days for that. im not sure of the latest ones devede for instance
[21:11] <blackest> jensa: google your hardware what chipset it is   add the word ubuntu and you may find whats the issue
[21:11] <Torhal> I'm looking for recommendations for two software packages: First, an archive program which supports Gnome context menus. Second: A decent IRC client. X-Chat seems to want to crap out on me on occasion.
[21:11] <racecar56> xchat works ok for me
[21:11] <racecar56> #ubuntu-bots
[21:11] <pepperjack> Torhal: irssi for irc
[21:11] <jensa> blackest, okay, ill try
[21:11] <Torhal> I've had it leak 2.6GB of RAM, and lock up when trying to join more than 5 channels
[21:12] <racecar56> i have 2.0 gb ram
[21:12] <racecar56> ._.
[21:12] <JEEBcz> irssi is good as long as you join only channels that have ASCII/current-locale-encoding in their names
[21:12] <JEEBcz> otherwise intjoin.pl is needed
[21:12]  * Neo_spencer8ab thinks ubuntu sucks
[21:12] <WilliamBlake> hi, connecting my headphones doesn't mute the speakers
[21:13] <musikgoat|main> WilliamBlake: but you get sound through the speakers?
[21:13] <musikgoat|main> s/speakers/headphones
[21:13] <WilliamBlake> musikgoat|main: ywa
[21:13] <pepperjack> mun: gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces   for starters if that doesnt work im not sure maybe you could sudo dpkg-reconfigure network-manager?
[21:14] <WilliamBlake> musikgoat|main: i get sound from both
[21:14] <BCS-Satori> Does anyone have an issue with 9.04rc installing?  I tried to install it twice today on two differnet hard drives and cdroms and it took almost 3 hours to install
[21:14] <geronimo_> hello friendly people
[21:14] <thasp> I have a folder with all my music in it, in tons of sorted subfolders
[21:14] <racecar56> hi
[21:14] <thasp> i need to take only the flacs, and convert them to vorbis
[21:14] <thasp> i tried soundconverter but there is no easy way to remove the mp3s and oggs from the list
[21:14] <jensa> Can i check somewhere what things i have in my comp? like motherboard, graphicscard, soundcard etc
[21:14] <coldserver> How do I get a list of installed packages that I have explicitly installed using apt-get (I know alrdy about dpkg --get-selections)
[21:14] <geronimo_> I have a sound-issue (no sound at all after installing xfce4 on jaunty 9.04
[21:14] <musikgoat|main> WilliamBlake: what kind of motherboard/computer do you have?
[21:14] <thasp> i only want to transcode the flacs to oggs, is there a simple way to do that while leaving the mp3s and oggs in the folder out?
[21:15] <WilliamBlake> it's a vaio
[21:15] <pepperjack> thasp: what command are you using right now?
[21:15] <blackest> thasp: i've a method you could use
[21:15] <thasp> i don't have any in mind at the moment
[21:15] <racecar56> bye, gotta go
[21:15] <thasp> i am thinking something using find *.flac then piping that to oggenc
[21:16] <Orlsend> Hi what the command that lets you know you top used commands?
[21:16] <WilliamBlake> jensa: lspci , cat /proc/meminfo , cat /proc/cpuinfo
[21:16] <thasp> in windows i used to do a search for *.flac, drag and drop the files to foobar2000, and use that to convert
[21:16] <hbekel> thasp: something like: for f in *.flac do; oggenc $f $f.mp3; done
[21:16] <thasp> if i could drag and drop all the *flac and all the *ape files to soundconverter, that would make my day
[21:16] <musikgoat|main> WilliamBlake: laptop? do you run any other os's on it, i would think that would be a hardware switch that would control that
[21:16] <WilliamBlake> musikgoat|main: it's a software switch.
[21:16] <thasp> hbekel: you mean $f.ogg, right?
[21:17] <jensa> Williamblake, thanks
[21:17] <Orlsend> Hi whats the command that lets you know your top used commands?
[21:17] <cougarten> hi, is my homefolder decrypted when the screensaver requires authentification on activity (I encrypted my homefolder with the alternate installer (jaunty))
[21:17] <hbekel> thasp: yes, dunno about the oggenc command as well; just an example using for
[21:17] <thasp> thanks a lot
[21:17] <thasp> i can build something on that
[21:17] <thasp> is there a way i can just move all the flacs and apes into one folder?
[21:18] <thasp> i guess i can using a variant of that command, thanks
[21:18] <hbekel> thasp: mv *.flac /somewhere; mv *.ape /somewhere?
[21:18] <musikgoat|main> thasp: mv -t /somewhere   /files/*.flac /otherfiles/*.ape
[21:19] <thasp> hbekel: will that be recursive, since they're all in subdirectories?
[21:19] <ripps> Orlsend: history | awk '{a[$2]++}END{for(i in a){print a[i] " " i}}' | sort -rn | head
[21:19] <thasp> i did this before with some commandline using "find"
[21:19] <milkncat> Ubuntu 9.04 will be released April 23 right
[21:19] <hbekel> thasp: no, better use find for recursion, afaik
[21:20] <pepperjack> thasp: well something like for i in `find . | grep -i .flac`; do mv $i newfolder/;done
[21:20] <pepperjack> or something
[21:20] <thasp> thanks
[21:21] <Tetracomm> When Jaunty Jackalope is released, should I upgrade to it right away? Is it any better than 8.10?
[21:21] <beli> pepperjack: irks...use xargs ;)
[21:21] <thordom> Can someone point me to a simple HowTo on setting up a Bluetooth Headset so I can use for listening and recording (I am using Ubuntu 8.10)?
[21:21] <axmasta> Hey, can anyone tell me how to replace the default ubuntu panels with someting much more versatile? At the moment I have no idea how to remove the "Software Updates" and "Wireless Networking" icons.
[21:21] <jean_> user
[21:21] <racecar56> heres a laugh
[21:22] <blackest> thasp:  find . -name '*.mp3'-type f -exec mv '{}' . \ drops all mp3's out the subfolders to the base dir but if there are dups they will get wiped
[21:22] <racecar56> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Cirrus Logic 5446 GD
[21:22] <thasp> pepperjack: that script moves the folders the files are in, is there a way to make it move the files themselves without taking the folder with it?
[21:22] <racecar56> heehee
[21:22] <thordom> nice script blackest
[21:22] <racecar56> gtg
[21:22] <hbekel> thasp: you can glob them via */*/*.flac up to two dirs deep as well. just test with ls
[21:22] <pedahzur> racecar56: Running on old hardware, are we?
[21:23] <racecar56> pedahzur, its a qemu vm
[21:23] <pedahzur> Ah...that makes sense.
[21:23] <racecar56> pedahzur, real machine has ati 2400 hd pro
[21:23] <racecar56> nah... ill stay
[21:23] <blackest> thordom:  i use a variant in nautilus retagging music files ends up with a lot of useless subfolders
[21:23] <pepperjack> thasp: shouldnt move the folders.  replace the mv with echo like echo $i. if youre going to do this though there is no reason to move em right?  you could just do your transcode command instead of the mv
[21:24] <WilliamBlake> hi, my speakers don't mute when i connect the headphones
[21:24] <racecar56> WilliamBlake, then turn down volume :P
[21:24] <thasp> i could just do the transcode command pepperjack but then i have to do another one for the *.ape files I figured if they were all in one folder i could dump them into soundconverter and not have to worry about it
[21:24] <musikgoat|main> WilliamBlake: did you see this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1024910.html
[21:24] <thasp> since oggenc has nothing for ape input
[21:24] <thasp> but since I can't move files without moving directories, I guess the transcode command would be the better route to go
[21:25] <cougarten> hi, is my homefolder decrypted when the screensaver requires authentification on activity (I encrypted my homefolder with the alternate installer (jaunty))
[21:25] <bob_> howdy guys
[21:25] <cougarten> and sry I ask again, my connection is quite flacy
[21:25] <bob_> still struggeling on opening my external harddrive anyone have any tips ?
[21:25] <Gartral> ok, its NOT my gfx card, last nights updates seem to have BROKEN my computer, i cannot boot ANY ubuntu live cd, or drive installation...
[21:25] <bob_> on what i need to be able to open it \
[21:25] <cougarten> bob_ did you unmount it propperly?
[21:25] <musikgoat|main> bob_: can you summarize what you've tried?
[21:25] <bob_> yes
[21:26] <bob_> let me open the page i was reading about it on and post it one sec
[21:26] <cougarten> bob_ does it work with windows? (I'm no linux pro, but for me this was a workarround once)
[21:26] <behappy> Hello , how do I know the proccessor referance ?
[21:26] <WilliamBlake> musikgoat|main: didn'BEI
[21:26] <WilliamBlake> musikgoat|main: didn't work
[21:26] <bob_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G#Configuration
[21:26] <bob_> that
[21:26] <blackest> WilliamBlake:  chances are there is a quirk with your sound system have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne especially the audio section
[21:26] <Siropel> yey! 9.04 is here!
[21:26] <ZeZu> bob_,  can you see it if you do a sudo fdisk -l  ?
[21:27] <bob_> i wil one sec
[21:27] <cougarten> bob_ sry, i don't know
[21:27] <alienkid10> siropel:  not yet
[21:27] <Rusty_AU> is it gonna be released in the next hour?
[21:28] <Gartral> alright, not gonna work here... wwhat should i try as an alternate OS?
[21:28] <bob_> ZeZu i posted it in private
[21:28] <Yalion> How can I unistall the DHCP server?
[21:28] <musikgoat|main> !isitout | Rusty_AU
[21:28] <ripps> !outyet | Rusty_AU
[21:28] <ripps> hivemind
[21:28] <coleys> musikgoat: What are the best video options for brasero?
[21:28] <Rusty_AU> !ooutyet
[21:28] <Rusty_AU> lol
[21:28] <Rusty_AU> !outyet
[21:29] <MaxxTaDeeR> help) how to install an tar.gz  program ??
[21:29] <ripps> Play with bot with "/msg ubottu"
[21:29] <jpds> !compile | MaxxTaDeeR
[21:29] <hbekel> MaxxTaDeeR: depends on what's in it
[21:30] <coleys> Pal/Secam or NTSC Which is better quality?
Its an game ...
[21:30] <pepperjack> MaxxTaDeeR: double-click on it to extract the file or tar xfvz file.tar.gz  be sure to read the README if compiling
[21:30] <musikgoat|main> coleys: ntsc if you are in the US
[21:30] <pepperjack> MaxxTaDeeR: what is this you are trying to install?
[21:31] <coleys> musikgoat: How about Canada xD
[21:31] <musikgoat|main> ntsc still, i believe
[21:31] <musikgoat|main> europe is PAL
[21:31] <coleys> ohhhh.
it's an game counteer-strike 1.5
[21:31] <coleys> Thanks for the help btw
[21:31] <smacfarl_> Today's dumb question. So I added the ppas for xbmc and then the key as well. Synaptic does not find anything when I search for xbmc. Reference http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=33327
[21:32] <musikgoat|main> smacfarl_: did you apt-get update?
[21:32] <coleys> For Audio options, there's Mp2, and ac3
[21:32] <musikgoat|main> smacfarl_: or "reload" in synaptic
[21:32] <smacfarl_> yep
[21:32] <racecar56> brb
[21:33] <thordom> how can I set up a bluetooth headset with Ubuntu 8.10 for listening to music and skype, etc?
[21:33] <musikgoat|main> smacfarl_: check you sources to make sure the repos show up
[21:33] <smacfarl_> how do I do that?
[21:33] <musikgoat|main> settings->repositories
[21:33] <pepperjack> MaxxTaDeeR: ah well that is a nonfree game so you will need to extract the tar.gz and follow instructions that should have been on site you downloaded it from.  after extracting check for a INSTALL or README text file
[21:33] <musikgoat|main> then 3rd party software
 tar xfvz file.tar.gz i type that in teerminal?
[21:34] <Beererde> hi. i have two seperate x screens, and when i start an application from the menu bar on screen 1, it starts on screen 0 :(
[21:34] <cousin_luigi> hi
[21:34] <pepperjack> MaxxTaDeeR: yes
[21:34] <smacfarl_> both debs are checked in the third party tab
[21:35] <cousin_luigi> is there a way for screenlets not to disappear when clicking on "show desktop"?
[21:35] <WilliamBlake> when is jaunty coming out ?
[21:35] <pepperjack> MaxxTaDeeR: ah be careful you might want to put the tar.gz file in its own folder in case there are alot of loose files
[21:35] <musikgoat|main> Beererde: you can start it in a terminal on screen 1, thats been my work around at work... or you can try --:1
[21:35] <Beererde> musikgoat|main: --:1 where?
[21:36] <musikgoat|main> Beererde: alt+f2    applicationname --:1
[21:36] <noqq> Are there partition programs that can be run live? (trough usb)
[21:36] <Beererde> musikgoat|main: the funny thing is, alt+f2 starts on the right screen
[21:36] <Beererde> only the menu does not work :/
[21:36] <frostburn> noqq, gparted has a live iso
[21:36] <smacfarl_> musigoat|main: both debs are checked in the third party tab
[21:36] <musikgoat|main> smacfarl_: sorry, not sure then
[21:36] <noqq> frostburn: free download I pressume?
[21:37] <frostburn> noqq, yes
[21:37] <musikgoat|main> smacfarl_: you can "sudo aptitude search xbmc" in a terminal
[21:37] <musikgoat|main> maybe sudo is not necessary
[21:37] <qbrix> Is it possible to use an Ubuntu Live CD and boot to a command line (Run level 2) instead of booting to X?
another quastion, i install an .deb application, all install and show normal but  there is no run file in Applications>games
[21:38] <KiFka> is there a release party channel today?
[21:38] <musikgoat|main> MaxxTaDeeR: create one in  system -> preferences -> main menu
[21:38] <hax0r1337> Anybody has problems with amarok2, it doesn't want to play mp3 for me, I keep getting 'xine is asking to seek behind the end of the data stream'
[21:38] <musikgoat|main> !outyet | KiFka
[21:38] <musikgoat|main> ^^ there :-)
[21:38] <KiFka> musikgoat|main, thanks :)
[21:38] <forceflow> you can just dist-upgrade now, guys
[21:39] <forceflow> before the actual download frenzy and heavy server load starts
[21:39] <xemacs23456> join #ubuntu+1
[21:39] <maher> Salut all
[21:40] <Beererde> what is the menu bar called? (the program)
[21:40] <Beererde> in gnome
[21:40] <Tetracomm> thordom: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset
[21:40] <musikgoat|main> gnome-panel  i believe
[21:40] <albuntu> hello to all
[21:40] <guntbert> !welcome
[21:41] <carmen> Hi to everibody! i'm on the internet, and i see that one of the projects of Canonical is Bazaar... what is it?
[21:41] <qbrix> you're on the internet?
[21:41] <guntbert> !ot | carmen
[21:41] <carmen> ok sont start lought at my english :D
[21:41] <ripps> !info bazaar | carmen
[21:41] <musikgoat|main> welcome to the internets, have a safe ride
[21:41] <qbrix> haha
[21:42] <carmen> iate a fanculo
[21:42] <GeorgeA> How can I deny guest account logging in using samba?
[21:42] <mgolisch> the package name bzr, and its distributed version control program
[21:42] <carmen> ok my darling teacher of english... how can i correctly explain that i'm using a browser? :)
[21:42] <mgolisch> written in python
[21:43] <musikgoat|main> carmen: no harm intended
[21:43] <guntbert> carmen: noone is laughing at you - for general discussions please join #ubuntu-offtopic, and there is probably an ubuntu channel in your own language too
[21:43] <Alex2> o.o how many alex's are registered???
[21:44] <carmen> jeah thanks guntbert, the problem is that ther's nobody in my country channel :)
[21:44] <armagheddonsgw> err could someone give me a hand? not used ubuntu in ages... forgotten how you update?
[21:45] <guntbert> carmen: no problem for us, you're welcome here - is there any special problem you want to ask?
[21:45] <Rabbitbunny> armagheddonsgw: sudo apt-get update
[21:45] <armagheddonsgw> ty
[21:45] <musikgoat|main> !upgrade | armagheddonsgw
[21:46] <noqq> Reformatting the partition is enough to get rid of ubuntu?
[21:46] <musikgoat|main> noqq: yes
[21:46] <armagheddonsgw> it has an uninstall option on the disk noqq
[21:46] <LjL> noqq: the bootloader will remain in the MBR.
[21:46] <noqq> I want a fresh install before installing unr 9.04
[21:46] <armagheddonsgw> from windows anyway
[21:46] <carmen> guntbert, no it was just a question... i'have a problem if i have to be sincere, the classic problem with atheros wireless network cards, but i'm waiting 4 tomorrow, to see if with the new ubuntu i can fix it :)
[21:46] <noqq> LjL: How to get rid off that?
[21:47] <LjL> noqq: using the Windows CD is an option
[21:47] <guntbert> carmen: ok :-)
[21:47] <qbrix> Is it possible to use an Ubuntu Live CD and boot to a command line (Run level 2) instead of booting to X?
[21:47] <musikgoat|main> noqq: if you are installing jaunty, then you shouldn't worry about hte bootloader
[21:47] <armagheddonsgw> put the ubuntu disk in while in windows (if you have it)... should be an option to uninstall
[21:47] <noqq> LjL: and if i don got the cd?
[21:47] <Gartral> AHAHAH! i figured out my AGP card wasnt sitting right! i have ubuntu up, in low graphics nmode!
[21:47] <armagheddonsgw> worked fine for me earlier (ubuntu buggered up)
[21:48] <LjL> noqq: then you can use an Ubuntu live CD to install "mbr", or follow the advice that others have given about jaunty installs.
[21:48] <kephu> hi
[21:48] <smittyrock> Hello?
[21:48] <Gartral> frostburn, blackest, it was my AGP card not sitting right, ubuntu is up and running!
[21:48] <excubitor> oh hai
[21:48] <guntbert> !welcome | smittyrock
[21:49] <frostburn> Gartral, excellent, so the cables weren't ajar eh
[21:49] <Labmonkey123> hey
[21:49] <qbrix> !welcome | ubottu
[21:49] <noqq> LjL: Whatś the bootloader anyway? You mean at the beginning when I start my netbook, I get to choose for Xp or Ubuntu?
[21:49] <Rabbitbunny> noqq: Yes.
[21:49] <Gartral> frostburn: no, my card was!
[21:49] <LjL> noqq: yes. the bootloader is the thing that gets started by the BIOS, and which has the job to load up the actual operating system.
[21:49] <frostburn> Gartral, hardware issues are the hardest thing to troubleshoot remotely =p
[21:50] <Gartral> i need to figure out how to install the new drivers though
[21:50] <LjL> noqq: the Ubuntu bootloader is called GRUB.
[21:50] <Labmonkey123> i have a graphics card that needs more power connectors, it needs 2, but I only have one. If i just buy a splitter cable will it work?
[21:50] <smittyrock> Thanks ubotto.
[21:50] <noqq> Rabbitbunny: Ow ye.. I want to get rid of that one. But how? My netbook doesn't got a cd-drive of course.. hm..
[21:50] <smittyrock> I have a problem.
[21:50] <lzantal> Hi, Where can I change the settings to boot into the commandline instead of gnome?
[21:50] <emanuele> qualcuno parla italino?
[21:50] <kephu> Hi, I have a quick question: I've managed to make Photoshop CS4 run (as far as I can tell) perfectly on Wine. The thing is, the only version that works is a custom made one with the activation system stripped out of it
[21:50] <racecar56> back
[21:50] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: no, you need a better power supply
[21:50] <Rabbitbunny> noqq: Aren't you installing 9.04?
[21:50] <kephu> so my question is basically this: should I do a tutorial on this?
[21:50] <emanuele> does somebody talk italian?
[21:50] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: how many pins (sets of pins) on the video card?
[21:51] <michael__> wow
[21:51] <JEEBcz> kephu, you should try if winedb still doesn't know about it
[21:51] <Rabbitbunny> !it > emanuele
[21:51] <noqq> Rabbitbunny: I first need to get rid of everytihng.
[21:51] <pepperjack> lzantal: chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm   that will work and is easier to remember howto set back as you just +x to set executable again
[21:51] <kephu> I mean, if you already BOUGHT photoshop cs4, using this version is more or less legit, right?
[21:51] <michael__> this is friggin cool, i love linux
[21:51] <Labmonkey123> musikgoat, um let me check
[21:51] <racecar56> meh, ill be on #ubuntu+1
[21:51] <zloog> I'm having an issue where my hard disk seems to be randomly freezing. Everything that uses the HD stalls for around a minute or so but other parts of the system work fine. Has anyone heard of something like this?
[21:51] <kephu> JEEBcz, tried, they don't
[21:51] <coleys> linux roxxxxxx....
[21:51] <Gartral> frostburn: WOW, real BIG pebkac moment there
[21:51] <armagheddonsgw> anyone know how to install nvidia drivers on ubuntu? the linux download was being an ass the last time i tried it (couple months ago)
[21:51] <michael__> you guys are all linux users?
[21:51] <Labmonkey123> musikgoat its a 9800 gt nvidia if that helps
[21:51] <Rabbitbunny> noqq: Nah, it'll replace those files, you're cool leaving it there.
[21:51] <smittyrock> I am.
[21:51] <noqq> Rabbitbunny: Please don answer if you can help me.
[21:52] <coleys> armagheddonsgw: system> Administration  > Hardware drivers ...
[21:52] <Gartral> thatnk you ALL for your support and kindred spirits well i was frustrated!
[21:52] <michael__> where is everyone from?
[21:52] <armagheddonsgw> yah ok. i just downloaded the .bin (think it was a .bin....) last time
[21:52] <guntbert> !ot | michael__
[21:52] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: yes, then it likely needs 2 6-pin  or a 6-pin and 8-pin,  (i have a 9800gx2),  are you familiar with your PSU?  do you know the model #?
[21:52] <pepperjack> !nvidia > armagheddonsgw
[21:52] <Sinnerboy> fox
[21:52] <Rabbitbunny> noqq: You don't really have a reason to remove your bootloader, but have fun.
[21:52] <michael__> cool
[21:52] <Labmonkey123> musikgoat no, brb googling
[21:53] <edmondscommerce> hey all - is there a way of having different xorg.conf files for different users.... trying to get a "work" set up using single monitor and a "home" set up which uses a projector as well
[21:53] <armagheddonsgw> oh good :) ubuntu popped up something bout automatic drivers
[21:53] <smittyrock> Ubottu, i need your help.
[21:53] <Sinnerboy> sorry wrong keyboard
[21:53] <lzantal> pepperjack: Thank you, I am trying it right now.
[21:53] <iksik_> damn, what is this ?
[21:53] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: likely you will need to upgrade your PSU if you don't have the pins necessary
[21:53] <jonrafkind> i just did upgrade-manager -d and am upgrading to 9.04 but its stuck on fetching files. what gives?
[21:53] <pepperjack> armagheddonsgw: yeah you can do the nvidia installer too google for ubuntu latest nvidia install
[21:53] <Labmonkey123> musikgoat is there any way i can get power from something else?
[21:53] <pepperjack> armagheddonsgw: only issue is that when ubuntu upgrades the kernel you could need to rerun it
[21:54] <behappy> I have dmidecode show up that my processor ID is "76 06 01 00 FF FB EB BF" is this hex maybe will be deplicate in other processor or its for this one only ???
[21:54] <thahauss> I'm new to linux, I've gotten emerald working successfully but to make it work after boot i have to type "emerald --replace" in console can some1 please tell me what the word is?
[21:54] <michael__> ubottu_ how do i change channels?
[21:54] <armagheddonsgw> no no ubuntu popped up a thing offering a list of available drivers for my card... remember vaguely using that before, worked fine
[21:54] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: no.  video cards of this caliber needs adequate power
[21:54] <armagheddonsgw> michail: type /join #channel
[21:54] <guntbert> michael__: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:54] <armagheddonsgw> works on pidgin...
[21:55] <Labmonkey123> musikgoat how much do new power supplies cost?
[21:55] <guntbert> !tab | armagheddonsgw
[21:55] <joshjtl> when i go to a page with google earth embeded i get: error loading GE plugin   is embeded google earth not available for linux?
[21:55] <michael__> anyone here?
[21:55] <noqq> Ok, I used a LiveUSB to install Ubuntu on my netbook. Is there an uninstall-option on the same file?
[21:55] <michael__> anyone here?
[21:55] <michael__> werkh
[21:55] <michael__> \wef
[21:55] <smittyrock> I am.
[21:56] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: they can range depending on the wattage required...  from 50 to 150 usd is common
[21:56] <michael__> i cant see what im typing
[21:56] <armagheddonsgw> err, guntberg sure you mean well but i prefer typing it...
[21:56] <pepperjack> michael__: /join #channelname
[21:56] <Labmonkey123> k thanks
[21:56] <michael__> can you guys see me?
[21:56] <Sinnerboy> fox
[21:56] <guntbert> michael__: about 1500 :-), is there an ubuntu support question?
[21:56] <smittyrock> Yes michael, i can see you.
[21:56] <Labmonkey123> musikgoat how can i know that the new one i get will work?
[21:56] <michael__> hello
[21:56] <michael__> a.skjdfvk/asdjbfv\
[21:56] <michael__> \
[21:57] <smittyrock> I have a question.
[21:57] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Go ahead and ask.
[21:57] <armagheddonsgw> oh... CRAP. i should probably burn a fresh disk... O.o massive load of updates
[21:57] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: I would suggest contacting the video card manufacturer (evga, bfg, xfx or whoever) and give them the specs of the video card and your computer, and they will suggest the correct minimum power requirement
[21:57] <dreamy> #ubuntustudio
[21:58] <dreamy> ops
[21:58] <Slipp3d> a quick question about the RC and the final.....should i wait until the final iso or could i use the one that i have now downloaded?
[21:58] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: for example,  a BFG 9800 gt oc 512MB  graphics card requires 400W PCI Express®-compliant system power supply with a combined 12V current rating of 26A or more
[21:58] <musikgoat|main> and One 6-pin PCI Express® supplementary power connector -or- Two 4-pin perhiperal supplementary power connectors
[21:59] <smittyrock> I helped a friend install ubuntu, and when he logged on, it gave 5 different boxes of errors saying in each do you want to delete them. The last box was a nautilus error.
[21:59] <Aizawa> Slipp3d: Provided you're talking about Ubuntu; if you install with the RC iso you'll be fine, you'll only have to update it tomorrow, there's no major changes.
[21:59] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: of course yours will be different specs
[21:59] <Labmonkey123> musikgoat the website for nvidia says minimum system power requirement 400w
[21:59] <armagheddonsgw> O.O what did i do??? its going haywire with graphics O.o
[21:59] <thahauss> Labmonkey123, a modular power supply that is also active PFC will do you well (google these if unfamiliar)
[21:59] <Pelle> Hello
[22:00] <Slipp3d> so the issue with ext4 isn't in the RC?
[22:00] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: i would suggest getting the information from the actual card manufacturer,  not the GPU manufacturer
[22:00] <Labmonkey123> so should i just look for a power supply that fits in a dell e510 and is over 400w?
[22:00] <smittyrock> On his desktop he doesnt have anything mounted to use wifi, nor his trash can.
[22:00] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: yes
[22:00] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: and has the pci-e supplimentary power connections you need
[22:00] <Labmonkey123> musikgoat: how will i find if it has that?
[22:01] <racecar56> im using ubuntu 8.04 on qemu with a RTL8029AS network card and it seems it wont connect to the internet. what's wrong?
[22:01] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: ask who ever you plan to buy it from
[22:01] <smittyrock> Did you copy that rabbitbunny?
[22:01] <thahauss> Labmonkey123, the e510 ships with a 305 watt power supply
[22:01] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: look at the number of pins needed
[22:01] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: On the actualy desktop or on the gnome panel?
[22:01] <smittyrock> Gnome panel.
[22:02] <Labmonkey123> http://pcpowerzone.com/e510.html, would that be good? or is it over doing it?
[22:02] <Gartral> ive got a selection of drivers for my xfx 6200 gt, restricted drivers are (in order) 180, 173, 96, and 177, which should i take?
[22:02] <armagheddonsgw> err, is there a better clear command for terminal? "clear" just moves everything off the screen...
[22:02] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: It's an applet, right click, add applet.
[22:02] <guntbert> !ot | Labmonkey123
[22:02] <Typh> Anyone know why "echo "base=0xe0000000 size=0x10000000 type=write-combining" > /proc/mtrr" would produce "bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument"?
[22:02] <thewrath> who sent me a message?
[22:02] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: the +12V amperage is good for what you need
[22:02] <cirE1> hey everyone... good evening. i have a quick question.... i am trying to add users for the rest of the household. what is the best way to go about that?i dont understand the groups settings and all that
[22:02] <noqq> How can I remove boot-loader without the cd? Because I'm on a Netbook, can't insert cd's.
[22:02] <Rabbitbunny> Gartral: Personally, I run the 96 driver so WoW will work, you should try the latest first.
[22:03] <smittyrock> I know, but he doesnt have any options for trashcan, nor date, and time, nor wifi.
[22:03] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: and the connectors are good:  , 6-pin PCI-E, 6/8-pin PCI-E
[22:03] <lzantal> pepperjack: it worked great. Thank you again.
[22:03] <pepperjack> noqq: you typically dont remove the boot loader but overwrite it with another
[22:03] <pepperjack> lzantal: cool np
[22:03] <musikgoat|main> Labmonkey123: so I would say that should be a good choice
[22:03] <Gartral> why would >96 break WoW?
[22:03] <armagheddonsgw> if youve no other OSs on the netbook noqq, you could just format the drive.
[22:03] <Gartral> Rabbitbunny:  why would >96 break WoW?
[22:03] <picaboo> hello ubunturos! :)
[22:03] <racecar56> hi
[22:03] <noqq> armagheddonsgw: I got Xp, like to keep it
[22:03] <smittyrock> There arent any icons for it when i right click.
[22:03] <armagheddonsgw> fair enough
[22:03] <Rabbitbunny> Gartral: It makes a lot of stuff red, dunno why.
[22:03] <noqq> pepperjack: overwrite with what?
[22:04] <armagheddonsgw> go into XP, run whatever program you used to install ubuntu
[22:04] <smittyrock> Copy that rabbitbunny?
[22:04] <armagheddonsgw> should be something there
[22:04] <racecar56> will there be an ubuntu 8.04.3?
[22:04] <noqq> armagheddonsgw: I used the .iso to install, used it at a LiveUSB
[22:04] <magnetron> racecar56→ yes.
[22:05] <pepperjack> noqq: whatever other boot loader you want to use.  basically any OS you install will take care of it
[22:05] <armagheddonsgw> use that then
[22:05] <ubuntu_greg> I can't wait for jaunty to come out tomorrow!
[22:05] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: the box doesn't pop up? what happens when you click "add to Panel"?
[22:05] <thewrath> ubuntu_greg: i have the  RC and updating it now
[22:05] <armagheddonsgw> of course... you could always remove the ubuntu entry in boot.ini
[22:05] <thewrath> so it will be almost like the final
[22:05] <armagheddonsgw> if there is one
[22:05] <noqq> pepperjack: I don want an other os.
[22:05] <LordQuackstar> How do i access the Users and Groups gui? Its not under System>admin
[22:05] <xangua> cirE1: well users and groups is EXTREMLY easy to use, what is what you don't understand ¿
[22:06] <pepperjack> noqq: sorry i might not understand.  what do you need to do again?
[22:06] <musikgoat|main> LordQuackstar: modify that in system -> prefs -> main menu ?
[22:06] <noqq> pepperjack: Uninstalling ubuntu, without leaving any marks
[22:06] <ubuntu_greg> I would use the RC but I cant risk anything on this machine, I should really do a back up before tomorrow
[22:06] <RickX> anyone know where sysinfo appears in the debian menu?
[22:06] <smittyrock> it gives me a couple of choices, but it should give me alot more than it does.
[22:06] <LordQuackstar> lemme try that musikgoat
[22:06] <armagheddonsgw> whats the path to desktop?
[22:06] <racecar56> ubuntu_greg, rc is really stable for me
[22:06] <armagheddonsgw> (from terminal)
[22:06] <pepperjack> noqq: ah.  boot a livecd and cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda :)
[22:07] <ubuntu_greg> hm, maybe i should give the rc a try
[22:07] <simka> hello all
[22:07] <cirE1> xangua: well i just want to add simple users but i dont understand if i need to put them in a main group
[22:07] <ubuntu_greg> how are the notifications?
[22:07] <noqq> pepperjack: Also explain that command please.
[22:07] <musikgoat|main> ubuntu_greg: its pretty stable, and at this point, there wont be any change from the released version
[22:07] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Did you do a full install, is something damaged, ae there errors?
[22:07] <cirE1> in the intial installation, my name is a main group of its own.. will that happen when i add a new user?
[22:07] <pepperjack> noqq: overwrites with zeros.  so not a good idea if you want to keep anything presently on there.
[22:08] <LordQuackstar> musikgoat|main: whats the command i put in in that new item dialog? I don't see a checkbox to enable it.
[22:08] <simka> is it possible to get all the neccessary stuff on one dvd like in openSuse or other distr...
[22:08] <pepperjack> simka: there is a ubuntu dvd yes
[22:08] <smittyrock> Did a full install, but yes, there were errors.
[22:08] <cirE1> and is a password for users necessary?
[22:08] <noqq> pepperjack: So it deletes everything on that partition?
[22:08] <ubuntu_greg> what do i type in the run box to get it to let me update to the rc again?
[22:08] <sapage> anyone know how long till 9.10 comes out is it released USA EURO time?
[22:08] <racecar56> ubuntu_greg, use terminal
[22:08] <armagheddonsgw> need path to desktop for terminal?
[22:08] <armegadon> sapage, in 24 hours from now
[22:08] <musikgoat|main> LordQuackstar: so its listed but greyed out?
[22:08] <racecar56> ubuntu_greg, then do update-manager -d
[22:08] <|PaperTiger|> When I try watch a film, the video viewing area flickers black and film footage. How do I stop this?
[22:08] <simka> thx pepperjack, i'll look for it
[22:08] <noqq> I find it really disturbing that Ubuntu does not have an unistall support page on their site.
[22:08] <armagheddonsgw> trying to install java
[22:08] <ubuntu_greg> ah ya thats it
[22:09] <LordQuackstar> musikgoat|main: its not listed at all
[22:09] <pepperjack> noqq: you lose everything including partition table pretty much.  i mean if i had to hand the machine over to the feds id be a little more careful but basically yeah
[22:09] <sapage> armegadon: it is 23/4 here is Australia :)
[22:09] <Rusty_AU> !outyet
[22:09] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: If you type my name as the first word of your replies it will be much easier for me to find your replies. Can you still see the errors that popped up?
[22:09] <musikgoat|main> LordQuackstar: thats unusual, is the user account your in, a limited user?
[22:09] <musikgoat|main> LordQuackstar: you can try creating it, the command is users-admin
[22:10] <GotSanity> anyone have any experience with running seperate X displays?
[22:10] <LordQuackstar> musikgoat|main: i'm in the default ubuntu account, i've made sure i'm in the admin group too
[22:10] <racecar56> GotSanity, not me
[22:10] <musikgoat|main> odd
[22:10] <racecar56> GotSanity, i would like to know too
[22:10] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: No, they all go away. Only one comes back, and that is the nautilus error.
[22:10] <LordQuackstar> musikgoat|main: does it need to run as sudo?
[22:11] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Can you put the text of the error on pastebin.com for me?
[22:11] <GotSanity> hmm, im attempting to run a copy of starcraft (through wine) on a second x display (because of resolution issues) and i have the display working great but im not getting any sound
[22:11] <musikgoat|main> LordQuackstar: no, it will have an unlock where you will be prompted for authentication
[22:11] <pepperjack> GotSanity: a very basic example is sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop   then echo gnome-session > ~/.xinitrc   then xinit --:1    and xinit --:0 i think in seperate terminals
[22:11] <pepperjack> GotSanity: might have some typos
[22:11] <tiredbones> I'm using distro 8.10. When I type "man 2 read" I get a message telling me that read in not in section 2. Where is read?
[22:12] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: i will try to.
[22:12] <ubuntu_greg> updating to the RC...
[22:13] <GotSanity> pepperjack: what does that do exactly?
[22:13] <Rusty_AU> its out!
[22:13] <ferronica> when ubuntu 9.04 going to release?
[22:13] <MrSteveman1> tiredbones: just type man read
[22:13] <digitaloktay> hi
[22:13] <digitaloktay> people
[22:13] <musikgoat|main> !outyet
[22:13] <ubuntu_greg> ferronica, tomorrow
[22:13] <psychic1> how can change versions of ubuntu without loosing all of my files
[22:13] <psychic1> ?
[22:13] <ferronica> today is???
[22:13] <ferronica> 23
[22:14] <Rusty_AU> tomorrow where?
[22:14] <Rusty_AU> its 23rd now
[22:14] <ferronica> yeah
[22:14] <digitaloktay> its 22 now in germany
[22:14] <digitaloktay> :)
[22:14] <thahauss> tomorrow yay
[22:14] <ferronica> lol
[22:14] <Rusty_AU> let me put it this way:
[22:14] <digitaloktay> now 23 sorry
[22:14] <ferronica> here in india 23 :)
[22:14] <ubuntu_greg> well the updater says to close all apps so ill see you guys later!
[22:14] <Veeyawn> Oooh, Rusty is in the future
[22:14] <armagheddonsgw> ok how do you run .bin?
[22:14] <racecar56> its 22 here
[22:14] <Rusty_AU> it's 7:15am 23rd here in Australia, will it be out by the time I get home from work?
[22:14] <MrSteveman1> it's the 7th of february here, what am i doing wrong?
[22:14] <digitaloktay> Japan China in the future
[22:14] <mgolisch> armagheddonsgw: make it executable and run it id asume
[22:14] <racecar56> armagheddonsgw, a file type is just part of the name
[22:14] <musikgoat|main> Rusty_AU: not likely
[22:14] <tiredbones> MrStevemanl, this is what get whe I enter man read - No manual entry for read
[22:14] <Veeyawn> Synch your clock MrSteve ;)
[22:15] <armagheddonsgw> yah i know but how?
[22:15] <armagheddonsgw> havent used ubuntu for ages
[22:15] <Rusty_AU> dang
[22:15] <musikgoat|main> Rusty_AU: i would imagine when you get up tomorrow
[22:15] <racecar56> armagheddonsgw, go into terminal and do "chmod +x foo.bin && ./foo.bin"
[22:15] <racecar56> armagheddonsgw, replace foo.bin with filename
[22:15] <armagheddonsgw> ok
[22:15] <barbar> ciao
[22:15] <digitaloktay> ciao barbar
[22:15] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: i just put it up for you.
[22:15] <pepperjack> GotSanity: xinit initializes X basically starts x  you could use startx instead.  so that starts 2 x sessions one on display 0 one on 1 (if i typed it correctly)
[22:16] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: It gave you the worlds' worst error.
[22:16] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: That describes nothing.
[22:16] <armagheddonsgw> ty racecar56
[22:16] <ferronica> eagerly waiting for ubuntu 9.04 :)
[22:16] <racecar56> armagheddonsgw, yw
[22:16] <Rumbel> you really should add WINE by default or at least popping something up to inform novices about WINE ..for the next ubuntu 9.04 , most people have one or more app for windows that they need <-- can i request this somewhere ?
[22:16] <racecar56> tommorow its comin :>
[22:16] <simka> can anybody suggest something like pascal (turbo, borland, etc) for ubuntu, openSuse.... ?
[22:16] <xerxes> 9.04 rocks...the snapshot is great so far
[22:17] <MrSteveman1> tiredbones: it has no man page because its part of bash
[22:17] <pepperjack> GotSanity: there is no reason you need to stop gdm service. if you just want another x session you can alt-ctrl-f2 and then login and run that xinit for display 1 or 2 etc. if you echo $DISPLAY in gnome itll likely tell you 0 at the moment
[22:17] <archman> xerxes, beta?
[22:17] <musikgoat|main> Rumbel: on brainstorm
[22:17] <xerxes> no daily snap
[22:17] <xerxes> i did xubuntu
[22:17] <larroyo> hi
[22:17] <xerxes> slick and smart
[22:17] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: I see, so what do you think that i should do?
[22:18] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: There's a log somewhere where all these errors would be written. kernel log, boot log something like that. Hopefully someone will speak up and remind us where.
[22:18] <Rumbel> what is brainstorm? where?
[22:18] <smittyrock> yeah, a friend of mine told me about those.
[22:19] <MrSteveman1> tiredbones: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html#Bash-Builtins
[22:19] <archman> is jaunty released at midnight gmt?
[22:19] <MrSteveman1> tiredbones: scroll down, read is in there
[22:19] <musikgoat|main> !brainstorm | Rumbel
[22:19] <jpds> archman: No.
[22:19] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: He is supposed to come by, but i was trying to see if i could figure it out.
[22:19] <racecar56> brb
[22:19] <archman> jpds, when?
[22:19] <musikgoat|main> archman: no
[22:19] <musikgoat|main> archman: at least not historically
[22:19] <jpds> archman: When it's announced.
[22:19] <akgraner> Rumbel, http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[22:19] <archman> ok ;)
[22:19] <bauerbob> hi
[22:19] <Pelle___> Haj
[22:20] <tiredbones> MrStevemanl, I found it online, but I was wondering why I can get at it on my pc.
[22:20] <Rumbel> thanks
[22:20] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Ah, they're all in /var/log/
[22:21] <bauerbob> will jaunty be released within the next 2 hours or should i go to sleep now?
[22:21] <bauerbob> ;-)
[22:21] <Pelle___> Help! my screen is stuck at 640x350 and wont change back! i can't even see the OK buttons
[22:21] <grkblood13> what is a good way to monitor all network traffic up and down real time?
[22:21] <musikgoat|main> bauerbob: go to sleep
[22:21] <MrSteveman1> tiredbones: its in man bash but very far down
[22:21] <bauerbob> :-(
[22:21] <archman> heheh
[22:21] <MrSteveman1> bauerbob: its like christmas, you aren't getting your presents until you go to bed
[22:21] <Pelle___> what should I do?
[22:22] <archman> oh, what is the default version of wine and jack for jaunty?
[22:22] <bauerbob> you say that only because you want my bandwidth! ;-)
[22:22] <musikgoat|main> grkblood13: wireshark ?
[22:22] <pepperjack> grkblood13: wireshark
[22:22] <MaxxTaDeeR> help how can i run an installed program when there was not installed launcher in applications
[22:22] <grkblood13> i have wireshark now
[22:22] <Rabbitbunny> Pelle___: What you need to do is switch to a terminal, manually edit your xorg.conf, and restart X.
[22:22] <nach> hi !
[22:22] <grkblood13> but thats kidna messy
[22:22] <musikgoat|main> grkblood13: learn to filter
[22:22] <grkblood13> u have to have it open in its own gui and look at a graph
[22:22] <nach> how can i prevent my console to treat the ^N character ? it put garbage on my display !
[22:22] <musikgoat|main> oh
[22:23] <Pelle___> okay, I cant even click things on the mouse, windows just "move" around, very frustrating!
[22:23] <Pelle___> it's all so small
[22:23] <grkblood13> musikgoat|main, i know how to filter
[22:23] <bauerbob> on christmas eve my grandpa rings a bell and says "guess who was in the living room and brought the presents?" ...but i wonder if my grandpa knows who will bring jaunty
[22:23] <lattera> hi, I need to throttle apt-get
[22:23] <u16602> how can I start firefox in a terminal or from a script but then fork it to run in the background (so I'm able to do other things in gnome terminal)
[22:23] <musikgoat|main> grkblood13: i didn't know what you meant by messy
[22:23] <thiebaude> haha bauerbob
[22:23] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: how do i get to that directory?
[22:23] <lattera> anyone know how to throttle apt-get?
[22:23] <Rabbitbunny> Pelle___: ctrl+alt+F1, a terminal, press ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to X. ctrl+alt+backspace restarts X.
[22:24] <thiebaude> bauerbob: i got my present now
[22:24] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Pop open xterm and type "cd /var/log"
[22:24] <musikgoat|main> Rabbitbunny: not for long :-P
[22:24] <grkblood13> yea, im looking for something simple via command line
[22:24] <Rabbitbunny> musikgoat|main: Are they changing that? when? why?
[22:24] <tiredbones> MrStevemanl, that dose not show the parameters one has to pass the read command. I am teaching myself assembly, so I need to know the various par that read wants.
[22:24] <musikgoat|main> c+a+backspace is being disabled by defualt in jaunty
[22:24] <dabbler> so....when is official release time ???
[22:24] <Pelle___> allright rabbit, I'll try that
[22:24] <MaxxTaDeeR> help me please)) how can i run an installed program when there was not installed launcher in applications
[22:24] <bauerbob> thiebaude, uhm... do you mean what i mean?
[22:25] <thiebaude> yup
[22:25] <Rabbitbunny> musikgoat|main: Why?
[22:25] <bauerbob> and where did you get it?
[22:25] <musikgoat|main> Rabbitbunny: to keep people from accidentally restarting... in my opinion its a bad move, but its good for newer people
[22:25] <thiebaude> bauerbob: upgraded from 8.10
[22:25] <susbwoy> Hi, I just want to verify the 56k modem on this laptop will be working. Not sure if it is in this lspci -> http://pastebin.com/m6e943ebc   (buntu 8.10/toshiba satellite u400 laptop). Can anyone point me into direction to find out? kppp is using /dev/modem by default but there is no such device.  hmm
[22:25] <Rabbitbunny> musikgoat|main: No, it's just a bad move, what's the replacement keypress?
[22:25] <lattera> which apt config file do I edit to throttle apt-get?
[22:26] <airtonix> question: intrepid killed the font preview thumbnailer in nautilus. Is it back in jaunty?
[22:26] <lattera> ...or is it even possible
[22:26] <musikgoat|main> Rabbitbunny: there isn't one, but there is a conf setting somewhere to keep it enabled
[22:26] <tiredbones> MrStevemanl,  Here is what I was looking for - ssize_t read(int fd, void *buf, size_t count);
[22:26] <Rabbitbunny> musikgoat|main: terrible.
[22:26]  * Rabbitbunny weeps.
[22:26] <tiredbones> MrStevemanl, Thanks for your help
[22:26] <Rusty_AU> fuck
[22:26] <bauerbob> thiebaude, you didn't use a mirror, did you?
[22:26] <Rusty_AU> fuck
[22:26] <FloodBot2> Rusty_AU: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:27] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: Im there. What to look in next after log?
[22:27] <musikgoat|main> Rabbitbunny: iirc it has zap in the name... let me look again
[22:27] <thiebaude> no i just upgrade through update-manager -d
[22:27] <thiebaude> that was 1 week ago
[22:27] <LordQuackstar> I'm confused with the Users and Groups gui. I installed ubuntu using the script from pendrivelinux.com, meaning nothing has a password, and the account i'm using is ubuntu. However, ubuntu isn't listed as a user. How can i change the password on the account?
[22:27] <airtonix> question: intrepid killed the font preview thumbnailer in nautilus. Is it back in jaunty?
[22:27] <Raere> I know this has probably been asked, but is this the real deal? http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ubuntu-9.04-server-i386.iso
[22:27] <joaopinto> !jaunty | airtonix
[22:28] <pepperjack> LordQuackstar: open terminal and type 'passwd'
[22:28] <MrSteveman1> tiredbones: are you sure its the bash read info you actually want, that looks more like a syscall
[22:28] <musikgoat|main> Rabbitbunny: Users who do want this function can enable it in their xorg.conf, or via the command dontzap --disable.
[22:28] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: You can type "nano <file>" to read any of those logs, one will have the error messages in it.
[22:28] <karim> hi
[22:28] <tsimpson> Raere: do not download anything until the release is announced, the images are NOT final
[22:28] <Pelle> how can i see what graphics card I have?
[22:28] <Rabbitbunny> musikgoat|main: Thanks. I'll write that down for the future.
[22:28] <quentusrex> Anyone know how to connect to an open ssh server with a server side key?
[22:28] <tiredbones> MrStevemanl, Yes, it was the syscall. Sorry for not being clear.
[22:28] <bauerbob> thiebaude, so it wasn't final ...but what's your impression?
[22:28] <quentusrex> the server has a public key to give out to those who can connect.
[22:28] <Rabbitbunny> Pelle: lspci
[22:29] <joaopinto> quentusrex, that is something that  you can easily find on google, better explained than here
[22:29] <g4lv4tr0n> what times jaunty out :)
[22:29] <g4lv4tr0n> ?
[22:29] <thiebaude> bauerbob: its faster for me and uses less resources, i had the intel problem before where x would freeze, but yesterday i fixed it
[22:29] <MrSteveman1> tiredbones: so you're looking for info on the syscall then, did you find it?
[22:30] <quentusrex> joaopinto: the difference is that I have generated teh keys on the server, and want to connect into it.
[22:30] <tsimpson> g4lv4tr0n: some time in the next 24 hours
[22:30] <quentusrex> rather than generated the keys on teh client.
[22:30] <thiebaude> bauerbob: its snapier and boot up is fast and notifications i love
[22:30] <MrSteveman1> tiredbones: http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl2_read.htm
[22:30] <bauerbob> sounds great
[22:30] <joaopinto> quentusrex, that is not how it works...
[22:31] <wamng> When will be ubuntu9.04 Released?
[22:31] <icsulescu2> sal
[22:31] <g4lv4tr0n> im using jaunty rc jaunty FTW
[22:31] <TimMc1> My CD drive doesn't work. Can I unpack the Live CD to an extra partition and boot from that?
[22:31] <tsimpson> wamng: probably sometime in the after noon (UTC) on the 23rd
[22:31] <g4lv4tr0n> no more intrepid problems :)
[22:31] <simka> is it possible to use apt-get for installation, and after installation access all the downloaded deb packages, so there is no need to download them for other PCs ?
[22:31] <armagheddonsgw> need some fairly specific help: creative x-fi elite pro card... drivers are only available as source code
[22:32] <joaopinto> TimMc1, no, that will not work
[22:32] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: I've got to reboot, don't freak out.
[22:32] <Nerq> Hey guys
[22:32] <bauerbob> i also can't wait, 'cause i've got a rt61 wireless card and 8.10 kernel has a buggy driver causing a interruption ~1/min, so it's not much, but when you play some online shooter and you hang for 5seconds every minute it's really a pain
[22:32] <Shadow__> Hi
[22:32] <Rabbitbunny> simka: You want a netboot install. it's on the wiki.
[22:32] <tsimpson> !install
[22:32] <TimMc1> joaopinto: 'Cause I definitely got it to boot, but it dropped me into BusyBox.
[22:32] <simka> thanks
[22:32] <joaopinto> simka, when you use apt-get all the downloaded packages will be kept on a local disk cache, you can copy those to other systems
[22:32] <Nerq> Hmm, quick question, what time is 9.04 released?
[22:32] <musikgoat|main> !outyet | nerq
[22:32] <joaopinto> TimMc1, that's is not a succesfull boot ;)
[22:32] <tsimpson> Nerq: probably sometime in the afternoon (UTC) on the 23rd
[22:32] <Rusty_AU> !outyet | nerq
[22:33] <TimMc1> joaopinto: Apparently`dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sda2` is not sufficient. :-P
[22:33] <thiebaude> what channel is the ubuntu party for thursday?
[22:33] <mrwes> !automate
[22:33] <Pelle> Rabbitbunny: ok, I think the "proprietary" drivers for my "geforce 3 ti 200" card messed up my screen, can I get a better driver for it somehow?
[22:33] <Shadow__> I'm at the initramfs prompt because mounting of root partition failed (i messed with keyfile and dm-crypt), i'm able to mount the real root or to fix the error in the keyscript. I need to know either 1) how to continue booting or 2) how to save the modified initrd
[22:33] <Nerq> arh, okay - I knew that it was the 23rd, I just hoped i was around midnight CET, so I could start DLíng it =)
[22:33] <simka> joaopinto: and how do i find local cache? is it in /tmp folder
[22:34] <susbwoy> Hi, I just want to verify the 56k modem on this laptop will be working. Not sure if it is in this lspci -> http://pastebin.com/m6e943ebc   (buntu 8.10/toshiba satellite u400 laptop). Can anyone point me into direction to find out? kppp is using /dev/modem by default but there is no such device.
[22:34] <joaopinto> simka, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[22:34] <gartral1> well... its up.... but how do i set it so the DVI port is the primaray, it just wants to use the vga
[22:34] <bauerbob> Nerq, "Every time you ask if it's out, a bunny dies!"
[22:34] <simka> :)
[22:34] <Nerq> is it out?
[22:34] <Nerq> :P
[22:34] <gartral1> so THATS where Rabbitbunny went?
[22:35] <LjL> !party | please...
[22:35] <Nerq> and btw, I did NOT ask if it was out yet, I asked what time it would be released ;)
[22:35] <bauerbob> :-) ...that's part of the topic in #ubuntu-release-party
[22:35] <PROject-Emerald> I have a Ubuntu problem... kinda weird actually. Whenever I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 for 5-10 minutes and I close FireFox, it will never come back up until I reboot. Kinda annoying tbh. And my sound goes away after about an hour.
[22:35] <PROject-Emerald> Any solutions?
[22:35] <bauerbob> any error messages?
[22:35] <ubuntuguy2> What PC are you using?
[22:35] <gartral1> PROject-Emerald: upgrade?
[22:35] <inter4ever> check if firefox process is still running
[22:35] <psychic1> how do i fix this problem? /[mntent]: line 9 in /etc/fstab is bad
[22:35] <psychic1> mount: can't find /media/cdrom0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab.
[22:36] <PROject-Emerald> Dell Dimension 2400... and I don't want to upgrade AKA why I'm on 8.04
[22:36] <[4-tea-2]> PROject-Emerald: killall -9 firefox
[22:36] <Pelle> anyone know if there's a driver for Geforce3 Ti 200?
[22:36] <PROject-Emerald> Terminal won't load up properly either
[22:36] <TimMc1> Is there a way to install Ubuntu into an unused partition *while* Ubuntu is running from another partition? (CD drive is broken, no alternate boot methods.)
[22:36] <PROject-Emerald> the box comes up but it just stays white inside
[22:36] <[4-tea-2]> PROject-Emerald: it seems your firefox is not really quitting when you close it, perhaps because a plugin won't let it.
[22:36] <gartral1> so, i have an nvidia 6200, how do i use the DVI port as main? right now, i have BOTH ports routed into my monitor, but DVI displays nothing, only VGA...
[22:36] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: Are you back now?
[22:36] <PROject-Emerald> But is it normal for nothing to run at all after that?
[22:37] <[4-tea-2]> PROject-Emerald: and when it notices that it's already running, it won't start up.
[22:37] <platius> PROject-Emerald;  have you started firefox from a terminal to see the error msg when you leave ff?
[22:37] <musikgoat|main> TimMc1: flash stick not available?
[22:37] <PROject-Emerald> Terminal won't even load properly... just a white box.
[22:37] <musikgoat|main> TimMc1: i cant answer your direct question, i don't believe you can
[22:37] <[4-tea-2]> PROject-Emerald: changed the color scheme to "white on white"? ;)
[22:37] <bauerbob> you should repair your terminal first, PROject-Emerald
[22:37] <ubuntuguy2> The terminal problem sounds like a problem w/ the X server.
[22:38] <psychic1> anyone know how to fix this [mntent]: line 9 in /etc/fstab is bad
[22:38] <PROject-Emerald> I haven't changed anything. But I just killed all the firefox processes and I'm still having a problem
[22:38] <TimMc1> musikgoat|main: Naw, old BIOS can't boot from thumb drive.
[22:38] <musikgoat|main> psychic1: pastebin your /etc/fstab
[22:38] <PROject-Emerald> How do I repair the terminal and things?
[22:38] <bauerbob> put a # in front of line 9, psychic1
[22:38] <[4-tea-2]> psychic1: look at line 9 in /etc/fstab and fix it.
[22:38] <TimMc1> I can netboot/PXEboot, but... bleargh.
[22:38] <lattera> there's gotta be a way to throttle apt-get, anyone know how?
[22:38] <pepperjack> PROject-Emerald: anything clocking?  `top` command?
[22:38] <lattera> I can't figure out how
[22:38] <musikgoat|main> TimMc1: :-)
[22:38] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Bam. What'd you find?
[22:38] <Noqq> If I wanted a fast os, did I chose right for Ubuntu?
[22:39] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: I looked in auth.log and it had some errors do you think they are the same ones for the 5 boxes?
[22:39] <thiebaude> Noqq: yes
[22:39] <PROject-Emerald> pepperjack: I can't find an alternative to Terminal so I can't run any commands
[22:39] <pepperjack> PROject-Emerald: try alt-ctrl-f2 and login you can alt-f7 to get back to gui
[22:39] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Probably not, I'd suspect syslog or dmesg, But if you'd like you could paste those errors and we can see.
[22:39] <sunny_> Hey guys im trying to learn programming language Python.  Can anyone help me find the right IRC channel soo someoen can guide me through a good website and all?
[22:39] <bauerbob> Noqq, depends on what you want to be fast ...your desktop? yes. your database application? yes. your windows 3d shooter? no.
[22:39] <lattera> anyone know how to throttle apt-get? I'm on a T-1 shared with 12 other people
[22:40] <|luxalcatraz|> in which channel is release party?
[22:40] <Rabbitbunny> sunny_: #python
[22:40] <bauerbob> sunny_, what about #python?
[22:40] <pepperjack> sunny_: /join #python   the folks there are pretty friendly
[22:40] <LjL> !party | |luxalcatraz|
[22:40] <sunny_> tried that wont let me join
[22:40] <|luxalcatraz|> thanks
[22:40] <sunny_> says i need to be identified first
[22:40] <LjL> !register | sunny_
[22:40] <musikgoat|main> lattera: googling "throttle apt-get" brings up many results
[22:40] <Shadow__> I'm getting the inirtamfs prompt at boot because initramfs cannot mount root. How can i continue the boot after i have mounted it manually?
[22:40] <mib_lxnl0elv> Is wubi being added to the jaunty release?
[22:40] <ubuntuguy2> sunny_, there's a tutorial on the python site
[22:41] <lattera> musikgoat|main, it sure does, but none that apply
[22:41] <LjL> lattera: i'm not aware of any specific method for apt, but "apt-cache search traffic shap" will show a few possibilities to control network traffic
[22:41] <sunny_> really? o nice u got the link for me mate?
[22:41] <LjL> mib_lxnl0elv: it was already in intrepid...?
[22:41] <pies> Hello, is there a way to force-close a network connection?
[22:41] <nasser> !release
[22:41] <ubuntuguy2> sunny_, go to http://docs.python.org/tutorial/
[22:41] <musikgoat|main> lattera: even this one? http://www.go2linux.org/traffic-shaping-with-linux
[22:41] <sunny_> thanks guys
[22:42] <musikgoat|main> lattera:  sudo trickle -d 20 apt-get update && sudo trickle -d 20 apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:42] <Pelle> Geforce3 3d drivers?
[22:43] <Pelle> anyone?
[22:43] <lattera> musikgoat|main, thanks, it's kinda working
[22:43] <lattera> better than before
[22:43] <musikgoat|main> cool
[22:43] <pies> what will happen if I kill dbus-launch?
[22:43] <mib_lxnl0elv> It doesnt seem to be a part of intrepid
[22:44] <Falstaf> Is there a super easy way to upgrade to Jaunty J?
[22:44] <bauerbob> yes, Falstaf
[22:44] <bauerbob> just wait 'til it's released and when you are being asked to upgrade click "yes"
[22:44] <musikgoat|main> Falstaf: alt+f2  and type update-manager -d
[22:44] <Aggrav8d> anyone in here know anything about configuring proftpd?  I know it's not the right forum but nobody's awake in there.
[22:44] <piegod> is it safe to kill the dbus-launch process?
[22:45] <Noqq> I can't seem to find the uninstall option on the livecd. Help please?
[22:45] <elensar-geek> hi all
[22:45] <musikgoat|main> Noqq: if you are in windows, just format the partition that contained ubuntu
[22:45] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: Didnt see any errors about nautilus in syslog, or dmesg.
[22:45] <IronRoses> guys! my dad tonight, tried ubuntu and loves it. yet, he uses OS X and is willing to switch to ubuntu if he can find a decent enough video editor which is near good enough as final cut studio
[22:46] <IronRoses> any idea's?
[22:46] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: any errors at all?
[22:46] <Noqq> musikgoI need to get rid of the bootloader
[22:46] <gartral1> so, i have an nvidia 6200, how do i use the DVI port as main? right now, i have BOTH ports routed into my monitor, but DVI displays nothing, only VGA...
[22:46]  * AutoMatriX greets all of you, avé
[22:46] <smittyrock> Yeah, but none of the ones that we first saw when we logged on.
[22:46] <Pelle> is this "Envy" program any good?
[22:46] <Rabbitbunny> Noqq: You've been here twice about that. You don't need to, and you've already been showed a way to do it. Please stop abusing support.
[22:46] <PROject-Emerald> IF I switch to Kubuntu 8.10 or 9.04 will I be able to use Konsole?
[22:46] <musikgoat|main> Noqq: ask in #windows how to force an MBR rewrite
[22:47] <musikgoat|main> from windows
[22:47] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny:Yeah, but none of the ones that we first saw when we logged on
[22:47] <pepperjack> Pelle: what do you need it for?  id typically recommend using the solutions in the wiki
[22:47] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Hmm. pastebin?
[22:47] <cirE1> it says new distribution release '9.04' is AVAILABLE!
[22:47] <Pelle> pepperjack: got a link?
[22:47] <Noqq> Rabbitbunny: No one gave me answer. They all say: "ow.. it will overwrite", But I'm not gonna install a new os. I want nothing with Ubuntu anymore, but I don't want to sound disrespectful.
[22:48] <serpico> salve
[22:48] <musikgoat|main> Noqq: i just give you the answer though
[22:48] <pepperjack> Pelle: wiki.ubuntu.com?
[22:48] <LjL> !it | serpico
[22:48] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: it would be very difficult to do that as im using my pc to chat with you, and not the pc that has the problem.
[22:48] <noren> !ati | Pelle
[22:48] <Noqq> musikgoat|main: Yes thanks, will check out
[22:48] <serpico> ragazzi devo installare un file *.so ma non trovo un sistema
[22:49] <LjL> !it | serpico, leggi
[22:49] <Pelle> pepperjack, ubottu: thx
[22:49] <nach> how can i prevent my console to treat the ^N character ? it put garbage on my display !
[22:49] <woodenfox> Greetz
[22:49] <armagheddonsgw> ok, how do i install a file that comes as .tar.bz2?
[22:50] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Ouch. Hmm.You could try googling each error, hopefully google will lead you to a solution.
[22:50] <musikgoat|main> IronRoses: aparently cinelerra is a good candidate
[22:50] <LjL> armagheddonsgw: .tar.bz2 is just a compression format (like .zip). how you install its contents depends on its contents.
[22:50] <serpico> how do i install a file that comes as .so?
[22:50] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: i will try that, thank you for all of your advice.
[22:50] <Rabbitbunny> nach: It sounds like a character encoding problem.
[22:50] <musikgoat|main> IronRoses: i'm not familiar with it myself, but some reviews say its the best thing to compare to final cut
[22:50] <myton> How do I login to IRC?
[22:50] <armagheddonsgw> ok fine ill be more specific: firefox
[22:50] <ardian_> HI
[22:50] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: No problem, Have Fun.
[22:51] <woodenfox> I've been pretty dissapointed with video editing in ubuntu...
[22:51] <LjL> armagheddonsgw: programs usually come with a README and an INSTALL file with instructions. please, also keep in mind that you should *always* install programs from the official repositories (not from downloaded files), unless you have no alternative.
[22:51] <bauerbob> serpico, you don't install .so files at all
[22:51] <Shapeshifter> Does someone know a wrapper for apt/aptitude or other apt clients that have pretty output? apt-get is awful. As a demo what I call pretty, this is pacman output (archlinux) http://stuff.moritzg.ch/prettypacman.png Is there something like that to wrap around apt* ? Asking, as I want to use ubuntu-server on a few servers and not arch.
[22:51] <ferronica> when ubuntu 9.04 going to release?
[22:51] <woodenfox> One day
[22:51] <woodenfox> Tomorrow
[22:51] <Rabbitbunny> myton: You're logged in right now, Do you mean register your nickname?
[22:51] <musikgoat|main> ferronica: you've already been told
[22:52] <ardian_> I need Help For Installing java in My Ubuntu 8.10. Please Help:)
[22:52] <myton> Rabbitbunny: That is what I want to do.
[22:52] <woodenfox> Medibuntu
[22:52] <woodenfox> Ardian... get medibuntu repos
[22:52] <Rabbitbunny> myton: type "/msg nickserv help".
[22:52] <armagheddonsgw> err ardian... 2s
[22:52] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: If i burn an iso onto a cd, will it still run right in a pc?
[22:53] <musikgoat|main> smittyrock: as opposed to what?
[22:53] <ardian_> Im new To Linux What's Medibuntu ?
[22:53] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: If you create a cd from an ISO, Yes. If you put an ISO on a file CD, No.
[22:53] <woodenfox> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/intrepid.list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[22:53] <woodenfox> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[22:53] <RoC_MasterMind> !java | ardian_
[22:53] <woodenfox> sudo apt-get ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:53] <smittyrock> Ok, thank you.
 today 23rd :(
 but no update from ubuntu :(
[22:54] <Whitor|> Hi. I've got files in my trash that I cant delete... it says permission denied, what can I do ?
[22:54] <musikgoat|main> !outyet | ferronica
[22:55] <ardian_> i need java for opening Ecilipse When i try to open Ecilipse iv got an errorr
[22:55] <ardian_> A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK)
[22:55] <ardian_> must be available in order to run Eclipse
[22:55] <Pelle11> pepperjack, noren: i tried the restricted nvidia driver but it only supports 640x350 max,
[22:55] <Rabbitbunny> Whitor|: Open a terminal, us cd to get to the right directory, and sudo rm them.
[22:55] <nach> how can i prevent my console to treat the ^N character ? it put garbage on my display !
[22:55] <bauerbob> cool, i also haven't heard of medibuntu so far
[22:55] <Whitor|> Rabbitbunny, Where is the trash dir ?
[22:55] <Rabbitbunny> Whitor|: I was just wondering that.
[22:55] <myton> Rabbitbunny: I get Please log in before attempting to verify your registration
[22:56] <Whitor|> Rabbitbunny, If I had that info... I would be golden
[22:56] <Rabbitbunny> myton: That means something went wrong somewhere. #freenode would be a better place to get support for this issue.
[22:56] <noren> Pelle: use envy
[22:56] <woodenfox> Ardian: This is what I do everytime I setup a new Ubuntu Installation http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgk9sn2g_259gwngt2z8
[22:56] <love_music> ктонибудт играет в second life ?
[22:56] <Whitor|> Where is the trash directory located ?
[22:56] <LjL> myton: you need /msg nickserv identify myton password
[22:56] <LjL> !ru | love_music
[22:56] <cricket_> irc://irc.freenode.net/#typo3
[22:56] <LjL> !trash | Whitor|
[22:57] <Whitor|> thanks LjL
[22:57] <Rabbitbunny> LjL: You're almost magical.
[22:57] <ardian_> anyone help me to get Java Development Kit (JDK) Please ?
[22:58] <bokey> !tell ardian_ about openjdk
[22:58] <joaopinto> ardian_, search for it on the package manager...
[22:58] <bokey> !tell ardian_ about java
[22:58] <BePhantom> where's 9.04 final version? it's already 23rd in some parts of the world :D
[22:58] <joaopinto> you want the openjdk
[22:58] <nolan_> whats up people
[22:58] <coldserver> Everytime my machine starts, I want to run a certain process. How do I do this in linux/ubuntu?
[22:58] <LjL> !outyet > BePhantom    (BePhantom, see the private message from ubottu)
[22:58] <ardian_> oh sorry i did'nt See it
[22:58] <LjL> !offtopic > nolan_    (nolan_, see the private message from ubottu)
[22:58] <psychic> i need some asstance with a /etc/fstab problem
[22:58] <nolan_> yea what about it
[22:59] <Pelle11> noren, allright'
[22:59] <psychic> line 9 is bad and i cant fix it
[22:59] <picaboo> hello ubunturos! :)
[22:59] <musikgoat|main> !pastebin | psychic
[23:00] <serpico> good night
[23:00] <psychic> can some one tell me somthing beside pastebin
[23:00] <nolan_> anyone wanna talk
[23:00] <bauerbob> psychic, "cat /etc/fstab" and copy&paste the contents to pastebin
[23:00] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny:Im back. I have the full error for nautilus now, do you want me to put it up on that site?
[23:00] <bauerbob> psychic, then tell us the link
[23:00] <musikgoat|main> psychic: i would like to see /etc/fstab   that is why i suggested the link
[23:00] <psychic> ok thank you i'll read up
[23:00] <bauerbob> psychic, so that we can see YOUR /etc/fastab
[23:00] <bauerbob> -a
[23:01] <psychic> i dont know the link if someone wants to remote view that would be fine with me
[23:01] <psychic> hold on let me read on how
[23:01] <musikgoat|main> psychic: (05:00:28 PM) bauerbob: psychic, "cat /etc/fstab" and copy&paste the contents to pastebin
[23:01] <sunny_> hey guys anyone knows a good IDE for Python development? something like DevC++ for windows i need something on linux
[23:02] <jhaig|home> I'm sure this is a very simple problem.  I have a local dns server set up with hostnames and ip addresses for machines on the local network.  If I do "nslookup <hostname>" it returns the correct information but then "ping <hostname>" gets 'unknown host'.  /etc/nsswitch.conf has "hosts: files nis dns"
[23:02] <LjL> !code
[23:02] <sunny_> ok soo i can program python on quanta that is awesome thanks :)
[23:02] <Tecna> Does the final release of Jaunty come out today or tomorrow?
[23:02] <Falstaf> Is anyone using version 9.04 -- is it worthwhile to upgrade?
[23:02] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Sure, if you can.
[23:02] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: What is the site address again?
[23:03] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: pastebin.com
[23:03] <ublender> hey, where are all the .desktop files for the application menu stored?
[23:03] <Foor> Good News Everyone Ubuntu 9.04 arrives tomorrow!
[23:03] <Paddy_EIRE> ublender: usr/share/applications
[23:03] <LjL> !party > Foor    (Foor, see the private message from ubottu)
[23:03] <Paddy_EIRE> ublender: I am pretty sure its around there anyway :P
[23:03] <ublender> Paddy_EIRE: thanks
[23:03] <bauerbob> sunny_, you can use netbeans, but its python support is still beta
[23:04] <Tecna> !party > Tecna
[23:04] <techman224> Does Ubuntu 9.04 go live at 0:00 UTC?
[23:04] <sunny_> bauerbob: hey thanks mate im going to download that right now
[23:04] <musikgoat|main> techman224: historically, no
[23:04] <BePhantom> Foor: it's already tomorrow in some parts of the globe ;)
[23:05] <musikgoat|main> usually people sleep around that time... i wouldn't expect it until afternoon UTC on the 23rd
[23:05] <sunny_> bauerbob: does netbean support cpp atm?
[23:05] <talntid> 9.04 on the 23rd?
[23:05] <techman224> Those people must be wondering where is it?
[23:05] <talntid> aww... they shouldn't have.. that's my birthday... :)
[23:05] <musikgoat|main> happy birthday talntid
[23:05] <bauerbob> sunny_, yes
[23:06] <picaboo> hippi bday
[23:06] <sunny_> bauerbob: thanks bud
[23:06] <Spipe> salut salut et joyeux anniversaire ^^
[23:06] <talntid> thanks :)
[23:06] <LjL> !fr
[23:06] <picaboo> :)
[23:06] <psychic> what should i call the poster on paste bin
[23:06] <psychic> ?
[23:06] <musikgoat|main> psychic: its not important, leave it blank
[23:06] <GLOBUS> Someone have premium account on speedyshare.com
[23:06] <musikgoat|main> !ot | GLOBUS
[23:06] <bauerbob> psychic, call it "psychic" (yes, that's you!)
[23:07] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: I just put it up, take a look.
[23:07] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: I get that same error whenever i try to open up anything.
[23:07] <psychic> ok i pasted it now what
[23:08] <musikgoat|main> give us the URL
[23:08] <bauerbob> tell us the url, psychic
[23:08] <psychic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156166/
[23:08] <white-rabbit-obj> anyone ever successfully bridged a wireless and wired interface?
[23:08] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny:Except terminal.
[23:09] <bauerbob> psychic, looks like there are 2 lines in 1 line in line 9
[23:09] <white-rabbit-obj> when I bring up my bridge, either the wired works, the wireless works but never both...
[23:09] <bauerbob> so go to "0/mnt" and break the line after the "0"
[23:09] <Led_Hed> I'm trying to get a bluetooth mouse working.  When I scan for devices, the mouse if found.  but the mouse still doesnt work.  I also tried hidd --connect <Device MAC>  but still no luck.  Any Ideas?
[23:09] <sunny_> bauerbob: i downloaded netbean but under plugins i see c++ but nothing about python
[23:09] <musikgoat|main> bauerbob: that wont be the only thing that needs fixing
[23:10] <psychic> so what can i do to fix it
[23:10] <bauerbob> sunny_, just a second
[23:10] <musikgoat|main> psychic: in a terminal, type sudo nano /etc/fstab
[23:11] <musikgoat|main> bauerbob: i'm wrong, i mis read his paste
[23:11] <psychic> got it
[23:11] <Crash1hd> simNIX: figured it would make more sense to be in here :) since thats where I am going to learn more :)
[23:12] <simNIX> :)
[23:12] <musikgoat|main> psychic: then go to the bottom line, and move to 0/mnt     and hit enter after the 0
[23:12] <simNIX> reading up in both is realy educational
[23:12] <musikgoat|main> psychic: so that /mnt is on the next line
[23:12] <kevin_> uvacav
[23:12] <kevin_> sdj
[23:12] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: You've got to give me a link, it's pretty hard to catch them flying by.
[23:12] <musikgoat|main> although i'm not sure why you need two swap
[23:13] <psychic> i have the swap because my computer was running slow with ubuntu
[23:13] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: Did you see the post on the pastebin website?
[23:14] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: No, they fly by pretty quick, You've got to give me a URL.
[23:14] <psychic> on board graphics and only 470 megs of ram after word
[23:14] <musikgoat|main> psychic: but you have two lines that seem to be mounting swap space
[23:14] <barby> Ciao a tutti
[23:14] <psychic> o ok
[23:14] <LjL> !it | barby
[23:14] <bauerbob> sunny_, in the development release you can find it in the plugins ...but i guess you downloaded the latest stable one, right?
[23:14] <psychic> i'm quite novice
[23:14] <musikgoat|main> psychic: after you've moved /mnt to the next line,  put a #  in front of it
[23:14] <x-ip> in which hour will be 9.01 ? :D
[23:14] <barby> Hi guys
[23:14] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: It is http://pastebin.com/m7ae2017f
[23:15] <barby> I need help to confiugure my new ubuntu installation
[23:15] <dassouki> i have 8.10 asus f9s laptop, how can i install my built in cam
[23:15] <musikgoat|main> psychic: so it should look like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156172/
[23:15] <x-ip> dassouki: do u know which chispset it has ?
[23:15] <barby> I have got a Aspire 3053WXMI and the audio is NOT present
[23:15] <dassouki> x-ip: negative sir
[23:15] <dassouki> how can i find that
[23:15] <x-ip> dassouki: use pastebin.ca and paste the command sudo lspci -vv
[23:16] <smittyrock> Download the webcam software from add/remove
[23:16] <bauerbob> x-ip, it's not 9.01. it's 9.04 (04 being the month of the release)
[23:16] <x-ip> so we can see which chipset it uses and try to find a kernel module that makes it work
[23:16] <barby> there is the icon at the top of the screen in a toolbar but the sound is not present
[23:16] <x-ip> bauerbob: right, sorry
[23:16] <barby> I have pumped up the volume but nothing
[23:16] <t1000> has anyone else here experienced ibex to be slower and having way more segfaults after updating the kernel to version 2.6.27?
[23:16] <second_thought> hi, I was wondering if a wan ip changes?
[23:16] <smittyrock> Rabbirbunny: Did you get the link?
[23:16] <psychic> brb
[23:16] <barby> how can I solve this problem?
[23:16] <x-ip> bauerbob: do you know in which hour will be the final isos uploaded ? :D
[23:16] <t1000> mine's 2.6.27-11.31
[23:17]  * x-ip wants to upgrade x'D
[23:17] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Did you remove the package ubuntu-desktop at any point5?
[23:17] <bauerbob> x-ip, no
[23:17] <x-ip> :,(
[23:17] <handlehere> second: yes it can unless you got a fixed one from your isp wich normally cost's extra
[23:17] <x-ip> snfi
[23:17] <second_thought> is a wan ip address like an ip address that has been routed through dhcp?
[23:17] <bauerbob> sunny_, you might try this one: http://deadlock.netbeans.org/hudson/job/python/lastStableBuild/
[23:17] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: No, i didnt.
[23:17] <musikgoat|main> second_thought: no
[23:17] <Rabbitbunny> hmm
[23:17] <second_thought> so the wan is static?
[23:17] <bauerbob> i couldn't find a better link to download the module for 6.5.1
[23:18] <musikgoat|main> second_thought: not necessarily
[23:18] <second_thought> hmm.. How so musikgoat?
[23:18] <handlehere> second: no
[23:18] <bauerbob> sunny_, or you just download a whole netbeans installation again, but with python support only: http://download.netbeans.org/netbeans/6.5/python/ea/start.html?platform=linux&lang=en&option=python
[23:18] <MarkJones> Do new releases get released at midnight or no? Im anxious.
[23:18] <bauerbob> MarkJones, no
[23:19] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: try running "killall bonobo-activation-server", and logging out, then back in.
[23:19] <musikgoat|main> second_thought: i think you are not understanding the definition of a wan ip address.   it simply means what the outside ip address that others talk to on a router/gateway
[23:19] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: Will do.
[23:19] <dassouki> x-ip: http://pastebin.com/d663fb80
[23:19] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: If that doesn't work you're going to need to reinstall ubuntu-desktop..
[23:20] <Rabbitbunny> Hmm. If you simply apt-get a package you already have... what would it do?
[23:20] <x-ip> dassouki: checking
[23:20] <second_thought> Oh, is see, I'm new with this. I'm trying to setup a server to be remotely accessible through the net
[23:20] <musikgoat|main> second_thought: likely, your ISP has granted you a wan IP address,  which may change, or may remain static.   I have comcast, which give dhcp addresses,  but if i don't reboot my modem, my IP doesn't change
[23:20] <Patrick904> Does anyone have experience with gnome-do docky?
[23:20] <musikgoat|main> second_thought: I would suggest setting up a dyndns account
[23:21] <P13808> I have a problem
[23:21] <second_thought> yes, as a matter of fact I have one
[23:21] <second_thought> and I'm trying to figure out what address to bind it to
[23:21] <musikgoat|main> second_thought: if your IP does change, dyndns would be updated, and you would still be reachable
[23:21] <Rabbitbunny> P13808: GHo ahead and ask, we're all waiting.
[23:22] <musikgoat|main> second_thought: you don't bind it to an address,  you set a client to update to the web service
[23:22] <second_thought> brb
[23:22] <P13808> The boot screen is done loading(as it's about to go to the login screen) I must input something via mouse and keyboard
[23:22] <Rabbitbunny> musikgoat|main: later note of you didn't know, many DSL modems have a dyndns client built in.
[23:23] <musikgoat|main> nice
[23:23] <musikgoat|main> but how many people know how to login to thier modem... i'm not opening that can of worms ;-)
[23:23] <Rabbitbunny> I always wondered why my ISP told me not to host, then gave me the tools. who knows.
[23:24] <Rabbitbunny> P13808: Is english your first language?
[23:24] <meinte> Command for restarting gnome-panels anyone?
[23:24] <musikgoat|main> meinte: sudo killall gnome-panel
[23:24] <P13808> Yes, English is my first language
[23:24] <x-ip> dassouki: plz also paste sudo lsusb
[23:24] <x-ip> because at lspci i cant find ur webcam :S
[23:24] <meinte> musikgoat|main,  ty
[23:24] <Rabbitbunny> P13808: Okay, The problem you're describing doesn't make much sense, Could you expand on it.
[23:25] <smittyrock> Rabbitbunny: ok.
[23:25] <P13808> The boot screen(with the orange bar) finishes loading.  Then the screen goes black.  If I don't click the mouse/bash the keyboard within the next second or two the whole system will lock at the black screen.
[23:26] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: everything worked?
[23:26] <Patrick904> I have a question, can I change the location of /home/patrick/videos to /media/sda1/my movies?
[23:26] <bauerbob> good night
[23:26] <Rabbitbunny> Patrick904: symlink
[23:26] <Patrick904> What is that?
[23:26] <musikgoat|main> Rabbitbunny: ot, i know, but i know this dude named Bunny, who is an amazing live performer
[23:26] <Rabbitbunny> Patrick904: That's what you need to use to do what you want.
[23:27] <Patrick904> Alright
[23:27] <Patrick904> I will google it
[23:27] <Rabbitbunny> musikgoat|main: I just fix cars and smell funny.
[23:27] <musikgoat|main> lol
[23:27] <gverig> has anybody been able to build o3d?
[23:27] <dassouki> x-ip: http://pastebin.com/d391c53bb
[23:27] <x-ip> chcecking ...
[23:27] <Rabbitbunny> P13808: What does the system log say?
[23:28] <x-ip> dassouki: there it is, Syntek web cam
[23:28] <CaneToad> Does anybody know how, with xsane, to change the scan brightness/darkness when scanning lineart (black and white) images?
[23:28] <P13808> System log?
[23:28] <TylerE> I'm seeing some very weird things in 8.10, trying to get my fonts looking good. Appearance tab in gnome keeps resetting, and I can't get any set of options to 'stick'.
[23:28] <musikgoat|main> second_thought: ddclient is a good command line utility for updating dyndns on a regular basis
[23:28] <Rabbitbunny> P13808: /var/log
[23:29] <detrate> tihs makes me so happy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/185387
[23:29] <sunny_> bauerbob: thanks mate what i did is installed from synaptic which did not install all the supports im downloading it directly from the site now with all the features in it
[23:29] <x-ip> dassouki: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=4343 here says that ur webcam uses stk11xx kernel module to work, if u type sudo lsmod, did u see that module in the list ?
[23:30] <DoyleChris> could somebody help me with serial ata problems
[23:30] <musikgoat|main> DoyleChris: explain whats wrong
[23:30] <dassouki> x-ip: will it be in the used by or module column
[23:30] <dassouki> the first or the third
[23:30] <DoyleChris> i have a Via serial ata chip set and a 250 gig SATA drive and i cant get ubuntu to see it
[23:31] <digitalvaldosta> :|
[23:31] <mheath> Is there a "ubuntu" style way for a program to make a configuration change to the Grub menu.lst ? (Specifically, to add a kernel command line parameter) Short of just opening the file for editing, I was wondering if there was a way that plays well with future kernel upgrades.
[23:31] <x-ip> dassouki: i didnt understand u, sorry x'D, what u mean ?
[23:31] <DoyleChris> i dont wnat to run raid just 1 hard drive
[23:31] <jv_> how do I ... ;)
[23:31] <jv_> hi all
[23:31] <DoyleChris> i do fdisk -l and it dosent see it
[23:31] <musikgoat|main> DoyleChris: does lspci see the via sata card?
[23:31] <digitalvaldosta> Can anyone tell me why my background pic that I upload to Twitter won't show up? I saved it to a .jpg>:o
[23:31] <jv_> DoyleChris: that is indeed the case
[23:31] <dassouki> x-ip: http://pastebin.com/d695d3f19
[23:32] <P13808> Whoah, I went to turn on my computer(my Ubuntu box doesn't have an Internet connection) and it worked for some reason.
[23:32] <DoyleChris> how do i check
[23:32] <jv_> it should..as far as fdisk -l sometimes does nto work, period
[23:32] <JoeSolo> DoyleChris: Does your BIOS have an IDE mode for SATA?  I've read that that will sort out most HDD problems with VIA chipset mobos
[23:32] <musikgoat|main> DoyleChris: in a terminal, type lspci
[23:32] <Rabbitbunny> smittyrock: Everything fixed?
[23:32] <digitalvaldosta> Is this a Ubuntu/ Gimp issue? I have never had an issue like this with Ubuntu/Gimp before.
[23:32] <MrSteveman1> mheath: there is /etc/default/grub which lets you set global options, but i'm not sure if thats for both grub2 and grub1
[23:32] <musikgoat|main> jv_: thats a rediculous statement,  fdisk -l does what its supposed to do
[23:33] <JoeSolo> VIA implemented some proprietary interface for their SATA chips
[23:33] <DoyleChris> it sees a raid bus controllar
[23:33] <x-ip> dassouki: seems its not loaded the module, try this: sudo modprobe stk11xx, it should get u back to the shell without gives any error, it works ?
[23:34] <Anacranom> i tried to add a network printer shared on a windows box- received message- "There were no print shares found.  Please check that the Samba service is marked as trusted in your firewall configuration. To do this, select System->Administration->Firewall from the main menu." But there is no "Firewall" there, and i edited the menu and there's no option to add it, anyone know where this is?
[23:34] <digitalvaldosta> :D Twitter, the end of the world. :D
[23:34] <JoeSolo> having major problems with using a SATA DVD writer on my mobo... but Ubuntu does "see" the drive and I'm able to use it as a DVD rom - just no encrypted discs and I can't write
[23:35] <JoeSolo> DoyleChris: When you boot up, is the drive listed when your SATA / RAID initialises?
[23:35] <dassouki> x-ip: sudo  modprobe stk11xx,
[23:35] <dassouki> oops
[23:35] <DoyleChris> checking
[23:35] <musikgoat|main> DoyleChris: could it be as simple as the via only supports ata/150 and your hard drive is ata/300 ?
[23:35] <DoyleChris> it is 150
[23:35] <dassouki> x-ip: FATAL: Module stk11xx, not found.
[23:35] <musikgoat|main> ok
[23:35] <DoyleChris> sees it
[23:35] <x-ip> dassouki: ok ... you will have to compile it but ... let me check if its another way to do that ...
[23:36] <x-ip> dassouki: do u understand french ? :P http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/syntek
[23:36] <x-ip> almost the commands are in english ^.^''
[23:37] <dassouki> x-ip: t'es francais
[23:37] <digitalvaldosta> 8-)I need some help. . . Can anyone tell me why I create a pic in gimp and upload it for my background to Twitter and it says everything went fine but nothing shows in the background except my color? :-/
[23:37] <thewrath> who sent me a message
[23:37] <coolmadmax> I have ubuntu system 8.04 and laptop fedora 10.What i try to do is connect internet with ubuntu system (dial up) and with LAN network connect my laptop to internet.Local network working fine because i set up manualy ip address and with ftp i establish connection. I have DNS address for my internet server(all ready inside ip4)for ubuntu system and laptop).Once
[23:37] <x-ip> dassouki: well, u are with luck this time, follow that tutorial, if u have questions come back :)
[23:38] <mib_1onudz> hi, how do you remove the background of an image automatically in OpenOffice Drawer?
[23:38] <digitalvaldosta> If you want to tell me if you see one go to: >> twitter.com/digitalvaldosta
[23:38] <Rabbitbunny> digitalvaldosta: Grab a jpeg from the internet, upload it. see if that works, otherwise, this is the wrong channel.
[23:38] <DoyleChris> it sees it
[23:38] <DoyleChris> quit
[23:39] <dassouki> when a command says to do 'uname -r' does that mean 'dassouki -r' ?
[23:39] <digitalvaldosta> Rabbitbunny, I only came here cause I thought it could be an issue within Ubuntu. But thanks for the idea.
[23:39] <musikgoat|main> digitalvaldosta: i see your face
[23:39] <Rabbitbunny> dassouki: No.
[23:39] <gotsanity> Im trying to run an application in a dedicated X server but i am not getting any sound. Any suggestions?
[23:39] <Rabbitbunny> dassouki: it means 'uname -r'
[23:40] <mado> hi guys and gals ...
[23:40] <Rabbitbunny> digitalvaldosta: it could be, but try that first.
[23:40] <digitalvaldosta> musikgoat|main, Thats my pic for the profile but I am trying to put an image as the background. it looks like a business card with a thumb holding it.
[23:40] <mado> can you help me to alter a command a bit? ... the manpages can't help me at the moment ...
[23:40] <coolmadmax> I have ubuntu system 8.04 and laptop fedora 10.What i try to do is connect internet with ubuntu system (dial up) and with LAN
[23:40] <Rabbitbunny> mado: Sure.
[23:40] <danes> hello, anyone knows the name of an application to load the kernel of an iso distribution into a usb memory?
[23:41] <mado> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda ... Rabbitbunny
[23:41] <coolmadmax> network connect my laptop to internet.Local network working fine because i set up manualy ip address and with ftp i establish connection.
[23:41] <Rabbitbunny> mado: You know what that does?
[23:41] <coolmadmax> I have DNS address for my internet server(all ready inside ip4)for ubuntu system and laptop).Once i connect to internet with my local network
[23:41] <mado> i heard this command would delete everything i have on my hard disk ... and would then write "zeroes"
[23:41] <mado> Rabbitbunny,
[23:42] <m1r> hello
[23:42] <coolmadmax> n i couldn't establish working firefox to search or Xchat connect to any server(No proxy or firewall).When i disconnect local network
[23:42] <mado> is this true Rabbitbunny ?
[23:42] <Rabbitbunny> mado: Yes, It will.
[23:42] <joshjtl> hey folks whats the very easiest way to run ie6 on ubuntu? wine? vm?
[23:42] <m1r> how could i add user to www:data group ?
[23:42] <musikgoat|main> digitalvaldosta: hmm  could it be the size requirements?  can you give me the source image to test?
[23:42] <coolmadmax> nd dial again i establish internet and my firefox working fine i Xchat.What is the problem?Why i could not establish internet connection?
[23:42] <musikgoat|main> digitalvaldosta: Images must be smaller than 800k. GIF, JPG, PNG.
[23:42] <mado> hmm ... ok ... is there a way to write something different on the hdd? ... like 0 and 1 ... or random things?
[23:42] <jv_> joshjtl: dunno...why do you need it?
[23:42] <Rabbitbunny> coolmadmax: You need to share internet.
[23:42] <joshjtl> jv_: web design
[23:43] <musikgoat|main> mado: /dev/urandom
[23:43] <mado> and is there a way to run this command more often?
[23:43] <Rabbitbunny> mado: sure, instead of using /dev/zero you could use /dev/urandom
[23:43] <mado> musikgoat|main, Rabbitbunny -> and is it possible to run this command more often?
[23:43] <digitalvaldosta> the image is only 32k and is jpg and png (i tried both)
[23:43] <digitalvaldosta> ﻿musikgoat|main
[23:43] <Rabbitbunny> mado: Why?
[23:44] <musikgoat|main> mado: what do you mean, more often?
[23:44] <jv_> joshjtl: ie6 ..humm.. wine?
[23:44] <mado> delete ... write ... delete again ... write again ... and so on musikgoat|main Rabbitbunny
[23:44] <digitalvaldosta> musikgoat|main, sending the file
[23:44] <musikgoat|main> mado: hmm,  you could bash script a for loop that does it a set number of times
[23:44] <jv_> joshjtl: http://www.howtoadvice.com/UbuntuIE/
[23:45] <joshjtl> thx
[23:45] <jv_> joshjtl: google Is your friend
[23:45] <musikgoat|main> digitalvaldosta: pidgin is the suck sometimes for file transfers
[23:45] <m1r> how to add curent user to www group ?
[23:45] <EoL{s}> Hi, everyone.
[23:45] <mado> uhuu ...
[23:45] <mado> *thinking*
[23:45] <musikgoat|main> digitalvaldosta: i didn't get it
[23:45] <jv_> hi
[23:46] <magaio> Is everyone else's Nautilus's folder completion not working?
[23:46] <spaceBARbarian> whats the easiest way to install php apache mysql on ubuntu ?
[23:46] <digitalvaldosta> ﻿musikgoat|main, what bout now?
[23:46] <Crash1hd> IM curious if I open a folder on ubuntu thats on a ntfs drive that has a windows virus on it called virut.nbm (it attaches itself to all .exe files) will it run havoc on my ubuntu system or can I use an anti virus program to actually irradicate it finally since I cant seem to do that with windows
[23:46] <danes> how can I install unetbootin in ubuntu?
[23:46] <mattwj2002> hi guys :)
[23:46] <jv_> spaceBARbarian: look for lammp I think...
[23:46] <mattwj2002> anyone know if the acer aspire one is 64 bit?
[23:47] <Nikola> what's the link to ubuntu party release Channel?
[23:47] <danes> do you guys play wow?
[23:47] <jv_> spaceBARbarian: there are several pre-made packages for CMS, for example
[23:47] <Nikola> !outyet
[23:47] <jv_> like joomla
[23:47] <Nikola> nvm guys...
[23:48] <mado> musikgoat|main, Rabbitbunny ... i'm just looking for some things my boss would probably ask me ... for example ... what if she / he asked me to make sure that the files on the business computers' hdd are completly removed?
[23:48] <jv_> joshjtl: http://www.google.com/search?q=install+ie6+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[23:48] <traskbt> danes, just ask your question please.
[23:49] <danes> I already asked but nobody answers
[23:49] <jv_> ahahaha
[23:49] <jv_> everyone is asleep
[23:49] <Joelito> hi
[23:49] <mado> then i could tell her / him that this would be the right command ... ... you know Rabbitbunny musikgoat|main that the files aren't completly removed if you just reformat the hdd ...
[23:49] <jv_> yes, danes qhat is your question?
[23:49] <Joelito> I just woke up
[23:49] <Joelito> hehe, really ¬¬
[23:49] <musikgoat|main> mado:  yes, i know
[23:49] <[Alex]> err got a problem: windows wont boot after installing ubuntu
[23:49] <mortsmel> hmm
[23:49] <mado> or should i tell them that they should destroy it with a hammer musikgoat|main Rabbitbunny ?
[23:50] <musikgoat|main> mado: thats a way to do it :-)
[23:50] <traskbt> danes, "sudo apt-get install unetbootin"
[23:50] <traskbt> Run that in terminal
[23:50] <mado> :) musikgoat|main ... and what if they want to sell the hdds?
[23:50] <mado> then i can suggest these command can't i?
[23:50] <jv_> I have a question: how to get independent financially without going to jail and without working too much?
[23:51] <Rabbitbunny> mado: Yeah, two or three passes of urandom data would be good enough for that.
[23:51] <Rabbitbunny> also, what's like ln but lets you symlink an entire directory?
[23:51] <blip-> was there some hickup with the upcoming release of 9.04 ?   I checked the website yesterday and it said 2 days left... now it just says coming soon
[23:51] <spaceBARbarian> whats the easiest way to install php apache mysql on ubuntu ?
[23:51] <jv_> jeez
[23:51] <Rabbitbunny> spaceBARbarian: get the server version.
[23:51] <mado> and how long do you think does this procedure take? Rabbitbunny
[23:51] <iceroot> spaceBARbarian: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server
[23:52] <grkblood13> any1 got soem experience streaming vlc here?
[23:52] <mado> jv_, wrong room ... but ... what about winning the lottery? :)
[23:52] <jv_> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&hs=jA6&q=+whats+the+easiest+way+to+install+php+apache+mysql+on+ubuntu&btnG=Search
[23:52] <jv_> mado: ;)
[23:52] <Rabbitbunny> mado: I did it once on a 20gb, took something like an hour iirc. Honestly I don't bother, just delete the partition tables and call it good.
[23:52] <mado> or living a life with a garden and some animals :)
[23:52] <sunny> wow i must say i am really impressed with netbeans
[23:53] <rbelem> Hi all, i'm getting an error when I try to run pyversions http://paste.ubuntu.com/156180/. I'm running ubuntu jaunty. Anyone with the same problem?
[23:53] <Lord_Devi> spaceBARbarian: Xamp is a good standard LAMP stack. Works the same on all distros. Turnkey.org has it's own Ubuntu based LAMP appliance too... (That one is quite minimal)
[23:53] <iceroot> Lord_Devi: of course xampp is not a good idea
[23:53] <mado> jv_, this could help you too ... the animals and the garden will help you to get some food
[23:53] <iceroot> Lord_Devi: using apache2 php5 mysql-server phpmyadmin from the repos is much better
[23:53] <spaceBARbarian> Lord_Devi: thanks,xamp looks good
[23:53] <jv_> Lord_Devi: that what i was thinking but was too lazy to dig
[23:54] <mado> sheep -> wool ... probably milk? :) jv_
[23:54] <Lord_Devi> iceroot: I don't like it myself. I prefer just Ubuntu's MOTO stuff. But Xamp has saved me before still..
[23:54] <alienkid10> what's the release party chan?
[23:54] <MarkJones> #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty
[23:54] <LjL> !party
[23:54] <mado> well Rabbitbunny ... musikgoat|main ... ok ... thanks so far ... *i'm thinking now*
[23:54] <jewome62> Hi
[23:54] <linxdev> Hello
[23:54] <mado> there's a party? :)
[23:55] <mado> i haven't been invited :)
[23:55] <linxdev> Anyone know what time 9.04 will be released?
[23:55] <jv_> what about making a browd mob somewhere for ubuntu users? I would go in my area
[23:55] <MarkJones> april 23
[23:55] <mado> linxdev, i'm not sure but i guess some server have it already
[23:55] <iceroot> linxdev:yes i think anyone will know that
[23:55] <Lord_Devi> iceroot: http://www.turnkeylinux.org/appliances/lamp  <-- this is a better "Appliance" Lamp stack
[23:55] <blip-> I are ubuntu'
[23:55] <Lord_Devi> as it's 8.04.2 based...
[23:55] <jewome62> I'm french and in france this is 23/04/2009 00:56:00
[23:55] <mado> i thought i saw a hungarian server some time before
[23:55] <iceroot> Lord_Devi: just use sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server phpmyadmin
[23:56] <jewome62> where is the Jackalope?
[23:56] <mado> jewome62, relax :) ... it'll be hopping around soon
[23:56] <Pelle> Hej! I need a good/free no-ip service, suggestions? no-ip.com any good?
[23:56] <Lord_Devi> iceroot: that appliance is only 150 megs though. It's the exact same thing, but very trimmed for creating deployments and such. Anyway. Just though i'd point it out, turnkeylinux doesn't seem very common knowledge
[23:56] <m1r> how to add curent user to www data group?
[23:56] <musikgoat|main> mado: for x in `seq 1 10`;do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy; done
[23:57] <geoaxis> Pelle: for what
[23:57] <strtok_> I have defined my own (mocked) recv function, but the linker keeps using the version from libsocket
[23:57] <Lord_Devi> They have more such "Appliances" based on 8.04.2 there too. I'm holding my breath for a good Groupware Appliance.
[23:57] <strtok_> I don't explicitly link against libsocket, and I want to disable the implicit link
[23:57] <Pelle> for a dynamic ip
[23:57] <strtok_> any suggestions?
[23:57] <strtok_> -nostdlib and -nodefaultlibs do not appear to help
[23:57] <FloodBot2> strtok_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:57] <mado> musikgoat|main, pardon me? i can't understand this
[23:57] <Psi-Jack> Is there any chance of getting Ubuntu's installation to detect and use the VIA RAID IDE controller for installation? I can see all the hard drives on the system, but the ones linked on a Raid-0 array just show up as individual hard drives and as unallocated.
[23:57] <genii> jewome62: Don't worry it will appear sometime before midnight of 23rd in Samoa
[23:57] <iceroot> Lord_Devi: always use the repo versions of original softare
[23:57] <iceroot> Psi-Jack: use the alternate cd
[23:57] <geoaxis> Pelle:  dyndns.org
[23:57] <mado> what does this mean in plain english or plain german? :)
[23:57] <Psi-Jack> iceroot: Hmm, only the alternate cd can do it, through textmode install?
[23:57] <iceroot> Psi-Jack: 8.10 alternate is detecting (fake)raid
[23:57] <mado> musikgoat|main, :)
[23:57] <mado> what does this mean in plain english or plain german? :)
[23:58] <Pelle> is that the best and simplest, geoaxis?
[23:58] <iceroot> Psi-Jack: fakeraid, yes, normal raid also works with normal installer
[23:58] <anthony_> is there a minimal CD available for Jaunty?
[23:58] <geoaxis> Pelle:  it has worked for me, they offer free version too
[23:58] <Psi-Jack> iceroot: I see. Well that's a bummer.
[23:58] <Pelle> allright, thx
[23:58] <iceroot> anthony_: yes
[23:58] <gartral1> so, i have an nvidia 6200, how do i use the DVI port as main? right now, i have BOTH ports routed into my monitor, but DVI displays nothing, only VGA...
[23:58] <iceroot> !donwload | anthony_
[23:58] <Rabbitbunny> Pelle: I also use it. rock solid.
[23:58] <iceroot> !download | anthony_
[23:59] <geoaxis> ~bot
[23:59] <psychic> for some reason i have to fstabs
[23:59] <psychic> 2*
[23:59] <geoaxis> any eta on release
[23:59] <jv_> any portuguese paisanos here?
[23:59] <jewome62> No no, I wouldn't install now Jauty, I go to sleep but i would know what is the Time zone use to ubuntu's cycle