[00:29] jcastro: ping [00:58] LaserJock: yes, thanks [01:06] slangasek: done, thanks === Snova1 is now known as Snova === wgrant__ is now known as wgrant [03:52] do-release-upgrade -d --mode=server [03:52] Checking for a new ubuntu release [03:52] No new release found [03:53] why does it hate me so? [03:54] lamont: Which release? [03:56] ia64 with intrepid installed, pointed at a "reasonably current" mirror of the world [03:56] Ah. ia64. [03:56] yeah. ports [03:57] It should still be using the same meta-release-development, though, I would think. [03:58] well, given that they're all forced by the local proxy to the same place, and that has the same file for all of them, yeah [03:58] so it claims jaunty [03:58] supported: 0 though [03:58] That's fine. [03:59] http://paste.ubuntu.com/156288/ [04:00] wtf. how did I get an intrepid version of that file [04:01] wgrant: a well placed rm meta-release-development fixed it. [04:02] lamont: Hmm. It sends appropriate cache headers. [04:03] well... there's some horrific abuse in the way the local mirror is tied into it all, and it coughed up an intrepid file before I freshened it... so let's go with PEBCAK [04:03] Right. [04:03] That sounds convenient. [04:05] well, no way in hell _I'M gonna campaign to re-roll _anything_ at this point [04:07] do-release-upgrade really doesn't have a man page? [04:09] geofft: I noticed that... it has a --help, though. [04:09] It sounds like it deserves a bug report. [04:09] what's the difference between -m desktop and -m server, anyway? [04:10] geofft: Possibly different hints. [04:15] Hm. I download the updater .tar.gz and look at DistUpgradeMain.py... [04:15] help=_("*DEPRECATED* this option will be ignore") [04:26] Is there a better way to see what extra stuff do-release-upgrade does beyond dist-upgrade, or should I continue to UTSL? === yoasif_ is now known as yoasif === zach_r is now known as zachmr [05:50] Guys! I got multiple message support working in notify-osd! [06:16] StevenK: hoist a brew for me at the release party [06:16] lifeless: You can't make it? [06:16] StevenK: I'm booked already tonight and slug is friday [06:16] Release party is Saturday [06:16] oh [06:16] thats right :) [06:16] we'll see, I have some things happening saturday, but will try [06:19] Is this the correct channel to go to if you need help package DEBs? [06:21] no [06:21] Which channel should I go to? [06:21] #ubuntu-motu is a good place to learn about packaging === Yasumoto_ is now known as Yasumoto === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn [07:22] good morning === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [07:50] how come the -security uploads are not shown on *-changes? [08:12] tjaalton: For security reasons, of course. [08:12] Hahah! [08:13] * soren crawls back under his rock [08:16] Good morning [08:17] * slangasek waves [08:18] happy release day :) [08:18] indeed! [08:21] slangasek: would you like me to edit the relnotes wiki directly, or add the wacom entry as a comment to the bug? [08:22] tjaalton: either is fine; the latter ensures we don't have to worry about getting in the way of each other's edits [08:22] slangasek: ok, I'll do that then [08:39] merry releasemas! [08:43] asac: firefox creating huge (4GB) sparse files on NFS sound familiar to you?-) === ScriptRipper_ is now known as ScriptRipper [09:06] tjaalton: not really ;) [09:06] tjaalton: a sqlite db? [09:07] asac: formhistory.sqlite.. I was equally surprised [09:07] no idea how to reproduce, but some users have had that [09:08] are sparse files problematic on nfs? [09:08] I'm not sure [09:09] might be an nfs boog [09:10] is this new with Jaunty or some new Firefox version? [09:12] geofft: no, with hardy [09:13] at least I believe it was [09:17] happy release day, all [09:18] sabdfl, to you too :) [09:19] Congrats [09:23] hey sabdfl, and to you! [09:24] it's a sabdfl! [09:25] life and kicking [09:25] err... liVe and kicking [09:27] Congratulations Everybody and here's to the next release [09:27] happy release :-) [09:34] * pitti goes to pre-review the ton of SRU [09:35] pitti: yay :) === dpm_ is now known as dpm [09:39] calc: that 56% is down from 63% for March [09:39] wow, is that a percentage of new bugs or of all bugs? [09:40] we have bugs ? [09:40] debian-with-bugs! [09:41] pitti, i want an SRU for something. should i arrange for an 0ubuntu2 to be uploaded directly, or wait for karmic, sync -3 into karmic, and request that be used for the sru? [09:42] directhex: I'd advise to upload 0ubuntu1.1 as an SRU now [09:42] unless you really meant -3, and not ubuntu3 [09:42] i meant -3 [09:42] then 0ubuntu2 is okay [09:43] so "do it now" then [09:43] debdiff time! [09:43] yes, please prepare the bug for SRU, and upload to the queue [09:44] 1.0.1-0ubuntu1.1 is the correct versioning for an sru? [09:44] directhex: it's a valid one; it's not the only correct one [09:44] the main point is to avoid version clashes with karmic uploads [09:46] i'll requestsync it for karmic as soon as it opens [09:49] * tonyyarusso would like to briefly remind sabdfl, slangasek, and anyone else who may care that we are using #ubuntu-release-party again for Jaunty. Remember to have fun today! [09:51] i still think thursday releases suffer from an inherent party-related flaw [09:52] Friday releases suffer from an inherent don't-release-and-then-disappear-for-the-weekend bug :-) [09:52] (oh, and they also tend to result in missing news cycles) [09:54] and give less wiggle-room [09:55] releases full stop suffer from an inherent don't-release-then-get-drunk bug [09:55] solution: debian ;) [09:55] directhex: I don't know, if it took me that long to get a release out I'd want to get drunk for a long while [09:56] LaserJock, could always ban security teams from attending parties... [09:58] okay, i have a debdiff. now to do the SRU paperwork === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn [10:14] hm. for an SRU i can't upload myself, do i hunt for a regular motu to upload it first, or go straight for a motu-sru person to take care of the lot? [10:19] directhex: oh, I thought you were motu [10:19] directhex: subscribe motu-sru for approval [10:19] directhex: AFAIR, motu-sru wants to ack universe SRUs before upload anyway [10:21] pitti, i'm just a lowly contributor. not even formally a member of any kind yet (though i now have a handy wiki page for people to leave me glowing testimonials) [10:21] pitti, i've subscribed motu-sru, and i'll poke cody-sommerville when he wakes (spoke with him yesterday about this bug) === mrpouit is now known as mr_pouit === mthaddon_ is now known as mthaddon [11:19] gnargh! [11:19] setlocale() is not malloc()-safe [11:20] hm? [11:26] hello, [11:26] can anyone tell me were I can suggest new programs for future ubuntu releases?? [11:27] wretched_dutchma, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages [11:27] thank you :) === Keybuk_ is now known as Keybuk === ember_ is now known as ember [11:52] superm1: how much lead-time do you need for http://mythbuntu.org/9.04/release to go live? [11:55] TheMuso, luisbg: same question, regarding getting 9.04 on http://ubuntustudio.org/downloads [12:05] pitti: hi, i noticed you assigned me to bug 351017 . does that mean that there is more work to be done on the package? [12:05] Launchpad bug 351017 in mjpegtools "[SRU] mpeg2enc crashes with SIGILL on non-p4 architectures." [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/351017 [12:06] Ampelbein: no, I just want every release targetted bug to have an assignee [12:06] i. e. the one in charge for the bug [12:06] ah, ok. === mrpouit is now known as mr_pouit [12:12] slangasek: sorry again since the website is not my area, I can't help. [12:12] * TheMuso is thinking though that he should change that for karmic. [12:13] i.e get web access since nobody ever appears to be around when these things need doing. [12:13] TheMuso: fwiw, _MMA_ tells me he's more-or-less stepping down due to work committments, so I guess that would be a good idea :) [12:13] slangasek: Yeah I'm well aware of that. [12:13] Thing is I tend to do a fair chunk of stuff as it is, that the others don't want me to take any more on, however they sometimes don't pull their own weight. === jelmer is now known as Guest11060 [13:04] at what time can we expect the release today? [13:04] madduck: When it's announced on ubuntu-announce. [13:05] oh how familiar that answer is :) [13:06] the reason i am asking is because i need to talk to one of your developers asap and would like to make sure I get the timing right [13:08] madduck: you need to talk to someone as soon as it's released, but not a moment before? [13:09] right [13:09] and i just wanted to get a bit of an idea when that would be [13:10] anyway, i'll just wait === Guest11060 is now known as jelmer === jelmer is now known as Guest88546 [13:11] * ogra points madduck to #ubuntu-release-party ... [13:12] will be announced there first [13:12] Where? [13:12] "Every time you ask if it's out yet, a unicorn loses it's horn." -- few, glad i asked the right question then. :) [13:12] lol [13:12] busfahrer, #ubuntu-release-party [13:12] Thanks, already in there, hehe. [13:13] good luck all === elmo is now known as canonical_millba === Guest88546 is now known as jelmer === smb_tp is now known as smb [13:32] mvo: [13:32] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288797 seems unfixed [13:32] Launchpad bug 288797 in synaptic "[Intrepid] Synaptic unusable - Can not find packages" [Medium,Fix released] [13:33] lifeless: upgrade or fresh install? [13:33] TheMuso, luisbg: now would be a good time to make http://mythbuntu.org/9.04/release available [13:34] TheMuso, luisbg: er, I mean http://ubuntustudio.org/downloads of course [13:36] mvo: read the comments [13:36] mvo: ask for more info etc:) [13:36] lifeless: sorry, I thought you were hit by the bug too [13:37] superm1: the sooner http://mythbuntu.org/9.04/release can be made available, the better [13:39] mvo: I am subscribed forvarious reasons :) [13:39] NCommander: do you have access to get http://xubuntu.org/news/9.04-release updated? looks like I just missed mr_pouit, and Cody's not around AFAICS [13:39] mvo: so I am seeing a stream of people still sayng they are hitting it [13:40] lifeless: they are hitting a different bug it seems (the fact that adding a new repository does not immediately update the index) [13:40] but I will respond in the bug [13:40] pitti: i get a failed to built for powerpc for mjpegtools (351017), http://paste.ubuntu.com/156499/ . How can I get access to the config.log? [13:47] Ampelbein: you can't; you need to reproduce/debug it on a local machine [13:48] Ampelbein: perhaps because -mno-sse2 is applied on all architectures instead of just i386, and the switch doesn't exist on other arches? [13:49] Ampelbein: yeah, I think that's it [13:49] wrap it into something like [13:49] pitti: that's what i suspect. but i don't have a powerpc-architecture here to test it. and since its the only change, yeah thats it. i broke another package [13:49] ifneq ($(findstring $(DEB_BUILD_ARCH), i386 lpia),) [13:49] CFLAGS+=-fno-sse2 [13:49] endif [13:50] (or whatever the flag/variable was) [13:51] in how many hours will jaunty be released? [13:51] pitti: will do that. is there a way to "simulate" another architecture with pbuilder? or perhaps with virtualbox? [13:51] c_korn, -> #ubuntu-release-party [13:51] Ampelbein: no, but you can change "i386" to "foobar" and verify that the flag isn't applied then [13:52] ogra: thanks. I should have known that there is a channel for everything [13:52] pitti: ah, yeah. cool. thanks for the help. (and sorry for breaking the package in the first try) [13:52] heh [13:52] Ampelbein: no prob [13:54] pitti: hi, i'm the guy who mailed you about using v4l-dvb with dkms, sorry for long silence :-) [13:54] hi miki4242 [13:54] had too much work going on to reply earlier [13:58] pitti: there were some problems regarding espeak: portaudio19 doesn't play nicely with pulseaudio. do you know what is going to happen to the release? [13:58] miki4242: you might want to talk to TheMuso about that [13:59] Ampelbein, In extreme situations, it's possible to cat config.log during the build, but try other things first. [13:59] (as in when it fails on a buildd, but isn't failing locally, etc.) [13:59] pitti: ok thanks [14:00] seb128: howdy [14:00] hi kirkland [14:01] seb128: i just enabled jaunty-proposed, to help do some testing of those packages [14:01] seb128: on dist-upgrade, i see: [14:01] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/156509/ [14:01] seb128: removing evolution, and such === slangasek changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 9.04 released! | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper-intrepid | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs [14:01] seb128: the last time i saw this, it took me about a day to resume my normal access to email :-) [14:01] kirkland: could you try to figure why? [14:01] seb128: try to figure out why it wants to be removed? [14:02] oh [14:02] I know [14:02] seb128: or why i lost a day fighting evolution? [14:02] kirkland: non !i386? [14:02] man, jaunty's been out for AGES! why's karmic taking so long to open? boo!!!!!! :< [14:02] kirkland: non i386 I mean [14:02] ? [14:02] Linux t61p 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:58:03 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux [14:02] seb128: ^ [14:02] right [14:02] wait for the amd64 build to catch up for evolution-data-server [14:02] persia: ok. i think pitti found the error and provided a fix, am now testing here and will reupload. [14:02] it built on i386 so -common is available but not the amd64 binaries [14:02] seb128: aaaahhhh [14:03] yet another reason why I use an i386 install ;-) [14:03] seb128: wow, that's a nasty little race in our build system [14:03] * pitti hugs slangasek, awesome work! congrats [14:03] seb128: so last time, i must have dist-upgraded later in the day and it found a published build [14:03] kirkland, It's worse when something FTBFS for only some architectures, because then it's more than a race condition. [14:03] seb128: and then i was working again [14:03] kirkland: where it's really an issue is if the amd64 fails or take some days now [14:04] persia: seb128: ack. that sucks. [14:04] pitti: you too :) [14:04] congrats, all! [14:04] binaries are copied to -updates though [14:04] yay! [14:04] LOOK BEHIND! A THREE-ANTLERED JACKALOPE! [14:04] so we don't have the issue in updates [14:04] is my cake in the mail, then? [14:04] slangasek: congrats! [14:04] * kirkland hugs slangasek [14:04] kirkland, The alternative is one copy of arch:all binaries for each arch, which is too painful to contemplate. [14:04] IS KARMIC OPEN YET? [14:05] well the bug there is also too strict depends between arch all and any binaries [14:05] Keybuk, You win. [14:05] Keybuk: oh, yeah, i'm installing it now :-) [14:05] and apt being stupid, you can tell that to mvo ;-) [14:05] Keybuk, on its way :) [14:05] pitti, i want to help you for giving me a moment to visualize monkey island's Lemonhead as a debian developer... "and the package says 'maintained by lemonhead'... just like one of mine!" [14:05] asac: HAPPY BIRTHDAY! :-) [14:05] Keybuk, beat you to it [14:05] TOO MANY INFORMATIONS [14:05] Keybuk, [14:02] man, jaunty's been out for AGES! why's karmic taking so long to open? boo!!!!!! :< [14:05] asac: happy birthday ;-) [14:05] directhex, Except you didn't use ALL CAPS, so it doesn't count as a well-formed pony request. [14:06] asac: oh? happy (age++)! [14:06] persia, poot. [14:06] boo! asac gets jaunty for his birthday. i got a car accident! [14:06] asac, DUDE ! happy b-day ! [14:06] seb128: its not sutpid, just a bit ... slow thinking [14:06] (ok, it is) [14:06] directhex: plusungood [14:06] mvo: ;-) [14:06] slangasek, should be live now [14:06] superm1: great, thanks [14:07] mvo: I know, people should use "upgrade" and not "dist-upgrade" too [14:07] asac: HAPPY BDAY [14:07] (age++) = λx→age++x [14:07] ion_, nerd! [14:07] seb128: i wonder if update-manager is any smarter about this than apt-get ... [14:09] kirkland: update-manager never remove an installed package so yes [14:09] kirkland: it would just wait for the amd64 build to be available [14:09] kirkland: and put the -common upgrade on hold [14:12] seb128: cool, that's good to knoew [14:12] * cjwatson starts pushing karmic seeds [14:12] seb128: i suppose that's why i saw the issue [14:12] right [14:13] seb128: cheers, thanks for the help ;-) [14:14] NCommander,mr_pouit: please branch lp:~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/xubuntu.jaunty to lp:~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/xubuntu.karmic [14:14] kirkland: you're welcome, let me know if that's autofixed in one hour when the amd64 build is there [14:16] superm1: please branch lp:~mythbuntu/ubuntu-seeds/mythbuntu.jaunty to lp:~mythbuntu/ubuntu-seeds/mythbuntu.karmic [14:16] cjwatson, i thought i already did, will do if not [14:17] I find it a little odd that the feature tour recommends that I use Microsoft Office formats. [14:17] I didn't look :) [14:17] superm1: oh, so you did. queue-jumper :) === canonical_millba is now known as elmo [14:21] wgrant, ? [14:22] directhex: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/904features/web-browsing/, bottom right. [14:22] mr_pouit: are you in a position to publish http://xubuntu.org/news/9.04-release, which still 404s? [14:23] james_w: please add karmic to the package importer [14:23] thanks all ;) [14:25] wgrant, i think it means it in a "interop with windows weenies" kind of way [14:25] also, vista-- #randomly rebooted me mid-game as it decided to apply some updates i didn't ask it to [14:26] <[reed]> so, I was surprised to see update-manager telling me fglrx isn't supported on 9.04 -- anybody know the bug # tracking that or when that may be resolved so I can actually upgrade? [14:26] [reed], ati dropped support for any cards older than $VERYNEW [14:26] [reed]: fglrx does not support r5xx cards anymore, just r6xx,r7xx [14:27] [reed], there's no fix. ever. unless ATI start doing what nvidia do, and have multiple fglrx releases at once which all support modern kernels & xservers [14:27] [reed]: there is a decent chance that the free driver works well for you, but it seems that its lacking in some areas (games), compiz should be fine [14:27] [reed]: best try that out with the livecd [14:27] cody-somerville: hi, I can has http://xubuntu.org/news/9.04-release ? [14:27] Yup. Bringing that online now [14:27] thanks! [14:27] <[reed]> so, I have an "ATI Mobility FireGL V5200" card [14:27] <[reed]> I don't know what that maps to [14:28] <[reed]> as far as rxxx goes [14:28] heh, www.ubuntu.com is basically dead [14:29] [reed], RV530 [14:29] <[reed]> guh [14:29] <[reed]> that sucks [14:30] pitti, not for me [14:30] [reed], use the Free driver, or contact ATI, or stay using intrepid or older forever, or buy a new laptop. those are the options [14:30] [reed]: little we can do unfortuantely (other than to warn about it) [14:30] [reed], sorry, but that's what happens with proprietary stuff [14:31] <[reed]> well, the only reason I use it is because I have an external monitor, and fglrx seems to be the only thing that can do dual monitors correctly [14:31] NCommander: cody-somerville: can you create the branch? (I'm not on my machine right now) [14:31] mr_pouit, branch for what? [14:32] cody-somerville, karmic seeds. [14:32] likely karmic [14:32] Sure [14:32] ah persia beats me [14:32] pitti: attached modified debdiff to bug 351017, i tested locally with something arbitrary and the flag did not get applied. thanks. [14:32] * persia was using a very light stick [14:32] Launchpad bug 351017 in mjpegtools "[SRU] mpeg2enc crashes with SIGILL on non-p4 architectures." [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/351017 [14:32] Ampelbein: can you upload yourself, or do you need a sponsor? [14:33] pitti: i need a sponsor. [14:35] Ampelbein: uploaded, thanks! will process with the next batch === emgent__ is now known as emgent [14:58] lamont: would you like to have GCC-4.4 as the default for hppa and ia64? [15:15] mdz: oh that is good news then :) [15:29] meh, launchpad.net is slow, or is that just me? [15:29] well, I guess it's the DC connection being maxed out [15:30] pitti: its launchpad === jelmer is now known as Guest6259 === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [15:55] What's the best way to request a large-ish number of CDs for a student group I'm involved in to hand out to users? The last time we tried to order a batch of Intrepid CDs through shipit, we got 3 [15:57] ebroder: There's a "special request" link on the shipit page that gives you a chance to explain why you need more. That's worked for me. [15:57] Ok, I'll try that...as soon as shipit comes back up === Guest6259 is now known as jelmer === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn [16:55] Hi, a tour to introduce Ubuntu during installation was promised for Hardy, then it was delayed for Intrepid, and finally it would come in Jaunty [16:56] however, it's not there in jaunty [16:56] why is this? [16:56] cumulus007, Maybe nobody wrote it yet? [16:56] You didn’t implement it yet. :-P === imbrando_ is now known as imbrandon [17:00] cumulus007, you mean the ubiquity slideshow spec? [17:00] yep [17:01] cumulus007, it's been discussed at the last two UDSes, and it will be discussed again at this one I believe [17:01] evand might know more on why it was delayed [17:01] Okay, I hope this will be implemented [17:06] cumulus007: it's scheduled for Karmic. We need to coordinate work between four teams, and that turns out to be quite difficult. [17:06] okay, that's a pity === robbiew1 is now known as robbiew === maco is now known as PeterGriffin === PeterGriffin is now known as maco [17:31] W2 [17:32] bah, sorry === rbelem is now known as rbelem-lunch === robbiew1 is now known as robbiew === edson is now known as ecanto [18:06] hi, why is jaunty not default on packages.u? === ecanto is now known as edson [18:17] Hello === SWAT__ is now known as SWAT [18:21] Kano: Probably an oversight. However, I suspect that at this very second, Intrepid is still what most people uses, so it's not that bad :) [18:25] Kano: Because there isn't one magic "we released, so let's update every web tool everywhere that Ubuntu uses" button. [18:26] you could write it [18:27] No, we couldn't. [18:28] Kano, not trivially, because people write new web tools for Ubuntu every day. [18:28] packages is old [18:28] Kano: And not run by Canonical. [18:28] Kano: I'm not even sure the guy running it is an Ubuntu user. [18:28] haha [18:29] Packages.ubuntu.com and packages.debian.org are the same codebase. [18:29] soren: packages.u.c is hosted on sulfur.canonical.com now [18:30] geser: still on Frank's behalf, though, isn't it? [18:30] I mean.. We provide the hardware, but I thought he ran it. [18:30] ICBW. [18:30] AFAIK that's true. [18:30] that I don't know [18:31] is there a particular reason LP is falling over [18:31] it seems about 50% failure rate for me currently [18:31] calc: It's in the same data center as the primary mirrors. It's release day. [18:31] * calc thought it was separate from the package distribution system [18:31] ScottK: so overloaded it can't even get to its backend i suppose? [18:32] Not sure where the bottleneck is, but clearly there is one. [18:32] the page itself works but operations on it pop up the oops page [18:32] This happens every release. [18:32] * calc thinks the LP server needs a dedicated connection to its database server [18:33] Keybuk: who's the MoM person nowadays? it needs to be flipped to Karmic, and all "updated merges" reset to "outstanding" [18:33] pitti: Keybuk said earlier he'd already poked MoM [18:33] ah, nice [18:34] he says he suspects archive.ubuntu.com hadn't quite pulsed out karmic yet [18:34] so it'll get round to it [18:34] calc: having trouble due to the load on shipit; they're aware, but it will probably also naturally subside [18:38] cjwatson: ok === BrunoXLambert_ is now known as BrunoXLambert [18:48] Not entirely sure as to whether this is the correct channel, but I was reading up on the mailing lists, and it sems libspe2 should be in the repo's.. but it isnt. [18:48] Its an important ps3 component of ubuntu. [18:49] trunkz: For discussing getting new packages in, #ubuntu-motu is a better channel. [18:50] trunkz: its not there for ps3? or just not there for other arches? [18:50] calc, doesnt seem to be for powerpc or x86 (just ran it on my intel box) [18:51] ScottK, will have a try there :) [18:51] trunkz: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libspe2/2.2.80-95-3.1ubuntu1 [18:51] trunkz: it shows like it is there [18:51] I know. [18:51] Hi, how can I disable the new notifications? [18:51] But its not in the repo's [18:51] I've compiled the source from launchpad [18:51] but it seems apt-get & dpkg dont believe that its installed.. which is another problem :p [18:52] Trying to do it via checkinstall now, hopefully the .deb will register itself. [18:52] trunkz: this isn't it? http://ports.ubuntu.com/pool/main/libs/libspe2/libspe2-2_2.2.80-95-3.1ubuntu1_powerpc.deb [18:53] that might be libspe2-2.. which it wont be [18:53] i'll double check. [18:53] trunkz: its built from the same libspe2 source [18:53] trunkz: it looks like the sover changed [18:54] trunkz: between 2.2.0 and 2.2.80 it changed name from libspe2 to libspe2-2 [18:54] .. ahh [18:54] trunkz: at least from what i can see [18:54] do they still have the 2.2.0 debs on there? [18:55] trunkz: yea... look :) [18:55] not in jaunty as it is old, but its in intrepid [18:55] ya just saw itin intrepid [18:55] thats going to fix a heck of alot of problems if it works. [18:56] trunkz: what problems are you seeing? is it just a problem with your own code linking against the wrong library name? [18:57] spe-medialib wont recognise libspe2 :) [18:57] trunkz: spe-medialib is probably an old version then or not up to date with the spe2 libary [18:57] All this.. just to get video working properly :) [18:58] trunkz: so i take it spe-medialib isn't something that is in ubuntu? [18:58] nope. [18:58] It should be. but it isnt :) [18:59] trunkz: so just modify its source to link the correct lib and/or just recompile it and it should work [18:59] oh hello.. seems to play nice now. [18:59] you might not have to modify anything depending on how it finds the spe library when building [18:59] heh [19:00] Or can you tell me where I can find this information (how can I disable the new notifications)? [19:00] I'll probably submit a request for static builds of spe-medialib to be included in the repo :) [19:04] trunkz: It'll get turned down. [19:04] I'll bribe them with cookies. === sbasuita_ is now known as sbasuita === rbelem-lunch is now known as rbelem [19:44] anyone have any speculation about the radeon driver stack in 9.10? [19:47] pacejr, At this point, it's mostly an upstream thing: I doubt the decision would be taken as to what or how or any such until at least post UDS. [19:48] i hope the first new package for karmic will be vbox 2.2.x [19:49] persia: yeah, i figured. 2.6.31 will likely be just too late for 9.10 anyways, right? [19:50] I don't know. Depends on when it releases, and what the kernel team decides at UDS. [19:50] i seem to remember they've only switched to a kernel in the middle of ubuntu's release cycle once in the past few years [19:50] No, the kernel switches in the cycle at least once *every* cycle. It only switched late in the cycle once. [19:51] The kernel team selects a version to target early in the cycle, and generally keeps to that choice. [19:56] the version selection really does have a lot to do with each specific kernel release. [19:56] as 2.6.30 isn't even released yet it is unlikely 2.6.31 will be in karmic [19:56] 2.6.31 at the current kernel release rate would be out sometime after July (maybe August?) [19:57] i would guess 2.6.30 in june. so.. late august. [19:58] and i suppose the kernel team would be hesitant to patch the new radeon bits into 2.6.30? [20:00] feature freeze is also late august so it will be interesting to see what they decide to go with :) [20:09] at least fedora is guinea-pigging a lot of the new radeon stuff for us [20:10] but it was too late to fix intel onboard it seems for 9.04 [20:11] Passing word from #ubuntu...torrent link is being buggy [20:12] back to work. Wonderful release! [20:14] Kano: I don't see a solution for that mess until probably closer to Karmic's release timeframe. [20:14] looks to me like upstream is the one in a state of flux. [20:15] updated intel drm maybe [20:15] I've got this annoying bug in my fork of notify-osd where the message box flashes for a minute before fading in. Anybody want to help? === Snova_ is now known as Snova [20:27] jdong: siretart was reporting significantly better performance with the current release. === mcasadevall is now known as NCommander [20:44] *sigh* [20:44] That's fun [20:47] ScottK: performance isn't my issue; stability is my biggest concern currently [20:48] ScottK: EXA doesn't work anymore since Jaunty, UXA hardlocks every few hours and dies on resume [20:48] jdong: I see. For UXA, I agree. [20:48] jdong: talking about -intel [20:48] ? [20:48] EXA works here, just is slow. [20:48] LaserJock: Yea [20:49] yeah, I'm really buggered by it still [20:49] EXA + Greedy works reasonably well here. [20:49] I have to turn off compositing or my GPU freezes within a few minutes [20:49] pitti, is there any chance we can setup a SPARC retracer? (I'm currently actively debugging issues on SPARC< and it would be handy) [20:49] EXA for me deadlocks in some GEM call when Compiz tries to start. [20:49] it's a bug that I can produce in every modern-ish distro past Intrepid [20:52] jdong: Which Intel do you have? [20:52] jdong: Any chance you could give backports approval some love. I'm sure it needs it. [20:52] ScottK: GMA950 in a old generation Macbook [20:52] Ah. [20:53] and Backports is on my TODO list which is getting shoved to the weekend.... courses are really killing me right now [20:56] NCommander, You can run apport-retrace locally. [20:56] persia, link to documentation? [20:57] * NCommander suspects he needs the debug libraries installed :-/ [20:57] man apport-retrace [20:58] hmm the release notes page still refers to Ubuntu 9.04 beta (http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904overview) [20:59] YokoZar, IF it's not already filed, file a bug against ubuntu-website. [21:00] where did gtk-displayconfig go? [21:03] persia: done. didn't realize we had a website project in launchpad, makes sense [21:05] Sorry... Ubuntu packaging n00b here... how do you use CDBS with automake? [21:07] magcius, Better to ask in #ubutu-motu (and there's a couple files you can include, but how many to include depends on what you want to do). [21:07] magcius: Packaging questions are better in #ubuntu-motu [21:28] jdong: ScottK's right. I'm currently running jaunty with 2.6.30-rc2 and intel 2.7.0 release (karmic ships 2.6.3) and EXA acceleration. [21:30] kees: The last upload to the release pocket was your sepolgen upload. [21:55] jdong, ping? [22:39] ScottK: \o/ :) [22:45] my system hanged on a "Checkign initramfs for custom DSDT" after a crash, the only bug I found for the same message is bug 58386, but is rather old [22:45] Launchpad bug 58386 in linux "ACPI: Looking for DSDT ... not found! (message during boot)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58386 [22:45] any ideas ? [22:46] joaopinto: File a new bug. [22:46] hum, shut it down for some more minutes and booted fine now [22:46] not sure i'll be able to reproduce [22:46] I have left my laptop for 10 minutes, and then found it shutdown, with the caps lock blinking [22:48] grr, now the wifi is also working [22:49] Would it make sense for Ubuntu to do the Select Best Server thing before a dist-upgrade? [22:49] I think that's a reasonable request. [22:56] anyone offer an explanation as to why "outline" is the default mode in compiz? [22:56] resizing used to be slow [22:56] but it isn't anymore [22:56] i can cook up a config patch debdiff if it's worth it [23:12] pitti: around by any chance?