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ogasawarajbarnes: I assume you're referring to http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/4/6/114 from Jens?  I don't think they're currently in the Jaunty kernel.02:01
ogasawarajbarnes: do you know if a bug has been opened in launchpad requesting they be considered for a stable release update?02:02
ogasawarajbarnes: if not we'll want to open one (ie let me know and I can open one for you and nudge the kernel team to consider)02:03
jbarnesogasawara: no I'm not sure... I think there may be some ext3 related patches as well02:03
jbarnesgiven how bad interactive perf has been under I/O load it seems like Jaunty should get something02:03
jbarnesogasawara: oh and btw I think "make install" from a kernel build still fails to update grub/menu.lst and create an initramfs02:09
jbarnesI think there's a launchpad about that, but I thought it was supposed to be fixed by now02:09
ogasawarajbarnes: thanks, I'll see if I can find it.02:10
ogasawarajbarnes: I'll go ahead and open a bug for the SRU of those patches, want me to just subscribe you to it02:10
jbarnesogasawara: sure thanks, I'd be happy to test02:10
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iulianpojar1i want high memory support in ubuntu generik kernel 32bit as default08:49
iulianpojar1how can i acomplish that?08:50
amitkiulianpojar1: it won't happen for Jaunty. We are considering it for Karmic08:50
iulianpojar1i can't use the server kernel because of drivers for video card08:51
iulianpojar1they don't install with the server edition08:51
iulianpojar1and i have 8gb of ram, and using just 3,2gb of them :(08:52
amitkiulianpojar1: I understand. What video card do you have?08:53
iulianpojar1amd radeon 467008:53
amitktjaalton: ^^^ 08:54
amitkiulianpojar1: what probablems do you have with drivers on the server kernel?08:55
amitk*problems08:55
iulianpojar1fglrx drivers do not load08:55
tjaaltonfglrx fail08:56
iulianpojar1and ati (open source) drivers have just 2d support 08:56
amitkiulianpojar1: we are considering enabling PAE (high-mem support) in 32-bit generic kernel for the next release.08:58
amitkThere just weren't too many *desktop* machines with 4G+ of RAM earlier08:59
tjaaltonmy laptop has 4GB :)08:59
iulianpojar1half a year waiting, and thats 2 years after the hardware makers 08:59
iulianpojar1that gave us 8gb of ram on every ddr2 mobo08:59
tjaaltonwhy don't you run 64bit?09:00
amitkthat was just my next question :)09:00
iulianpojar1when 8gb of ddr2 ram is under 40$ in retail , i have aplications that do not run in 32 bit mode09:01
iulianpojar1sorry, 64 bit mode09:01
amitkiulianpojar1: do you have examples? We need to know who to blame for people not moving to 64-bit ;)09:02
tjaaltonand usually it's just ia32-libs missing some 32bit libraries, in which case those can be added by the admin09:04
* amitk nods09:04
amitkmost common proprietary apps now run on 64-bit (flash, skype, java)09:05
iulianpojar1unison, and some other synchronistaion software can't run between 32 bit to 64 bit machines09:05
tjaaltonhmm? unison most certainly does09:06
amitkiulianpojar1: I've been running unison between my amd64 and i386 box for ages09:06
iulianpojar1and i have to use it between home-desktop netbook and work-station09:06
iulianpojar1doesn't work for me :(09:07
amitkiulianpojar1: different versions? like hardy against jaunty?09:08
amitki know unison has problems with that09:08
iulianpojar1the same hardy09:08
amitkthough intrepid against jaunty worked just fine09:08
iulianpojar1then i'l have to upgrade09:09
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ikepanhcsmb: how do you think about backport lenovo-sl-laptop to hardy LBM? could you give me some suggestion?14:17
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ikepanhcsmb: after amit's suggestion, I think I shall wait for the answer of the driver maintainer14:18
smbikepanhc, Is there a big asking for it for hardy?14:18
ikepanhcsmb: I dont think so :P14:19
smbikepanhc, So, I'd wait for that first. It is probably not something you cannot live without. ;-)14:20
ikepanhcthanks, I will try to have a talk with the maintainer14:20
iulianpojar1ubuntu 9.04  right now on www.ubuntu.com14:25
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apwsmb, on your jaunty install, can you see if VT-1 is working ok for you15:11
smbapw, Give me a sec I boot it up15:12
apwsome of us have nothing on our VT's other than X.  just a cursor15:12
smbBut I thought it did15:12
apwtrying to find a pattern to those who do and dont15:12
smbI think it is on RC level. vt1-6 work15:14
apwi have nothing on mine15:15
smbGFX is ATI Radeon 340015:15
apwsmb, thanks15:16
smbnp15:16
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jcastroanyone from the kernel team interested in a kernel session for ubuntu openweek?15:47
jcastroIt doesn't need to be highly technical, just an overview of kernel stuff in jaunty, what you plan to do for karmic, etc.15:47
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aweapw: ping19:55
awertg: can you answer a question about hardy l-r-m and the volatile mechanism?19:59
rtgawe: I expect he's into his 3rd beer by now. 19:59
awertg: i'm trying to debug the wl wrapper, and i can't seem to figure out how to force my updated module to get picked up...19:59
rtgawe: get picked up... ? what does that mean?20:00
awertg: yea, i wish i was into my 3rd beer..., but i've got a release party and the celtics game to look forward to tonight.  ;)20:00
rtgawe: are you rebuilding the whole package and re-installing every time?20:01
awertg: yes20:01
rtghmm, how can it _not_ use the new module?20:01
awertg: first i tried creating a patch, that didn't seem to work, so next i just modified the tarball directly.20:01
awei can't seem to get a simple printk to work.  seems pretty trivial, i know20:02
rtgawe: hmm, I though smb unrolled Broadcom in LRM.20:02
awe?20:03
rtgawe: source instead of tarball. I'll have to look20:03
awein our version, it's just two gzip'd tarballs20:04
aweone _32 and one _6420:04
rtgI should get him to start a git repo for it as well.20:04
aweanyways, i'll keep poking at it... i just wanted to make sure there wasn't anything funny going on w/l-r-m that i was missing...20:05
rtgawe: one oddity about LRM is hat it doesn't do the final module link until boot time20:05
awertg: yea, i noticed that...  thanks20:06
rtgawe: smb _did_ unroll the distro version of LRM20:06
awertg: ok,20:07
rtgawe: I'm going to ask Stefan to creatre a git repo with a netbook-lpia branch, just like the other kernel packages20:07
awertg: cool, i think it'd make it much easier to work with20:11
rtgawe: are you subscribed to kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com ? that's where I'm sending the note20:12
awertg: yes20:12
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