[00:00] <asac> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/362352
[00:00] <asac> am i tired or is the problem hard to identify ;)
[00:00] <asac> i mean understanding his problem ;)
[00:01] <asac> directhex: the one in the test page is similar
[00:01] <directhex> asac, i know, but i DEFINITELY got the ubufox window with my version
[00:01] <asac> ah you do some data
[00:01] <directhex> i'll take a screenshot for posterity!
[00:11] <Lns> Hey all, a couple things I wanted to bring up
[00:12] <directhex> asac, http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/picturebox-2/miscellanous-junk/?pid=220#picture_nav
[00:12] <Lns> In Jaunty w/Firefox 3.0.8, I was having major issues on Facebook when Adblock Plus was installed (even when completely deactivated). I couldn't do anything on FB - comment, see many pictures, etc... it wasn't until I completely removed Adblock that things actually started working again (even though, as I said, it was disabled)
[00:13] <Lns> Second thing, is there a way to remove the authentication from a closed tab so, say, someone can't come up to my browser instance and go history -> recently closed tabs, and re-open my, say, authenticated firewall config page?
[00:23] <asac> directhex: yeah. thats how its supposed to work
[00:23] <asac> Lns: have you tried a different adblock version?
[00:24] <Lns> asac: nope just tried the latest one from mozilla addons
[00:24] <directhex> asac, and DOES work! barring the whole "everyone on the internet uses plugin detection" issue
[00:24] <Lns> asac: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865 i believe (not on the same system but i'm sure this is it)
[00:25] <asac> Lns: removing authentication from the tab is difficult ... especially if its session cookies. i dont think there is such a feature. guess you should close app (remember tabs) and start it to get that effect
[00:25] <Lns> oh another thing I noticed (in jaunty) when i install the adobe flash plugin, it doesn't ask me to restart, and when i re-visit the flash page it prompts me to install the plugin again.
[00:25] <asac> Lns: its a bug that it prompts you again
[00:25] <asac> it used to work without restart
[00:25] <Lns> asac: rgr
[00:25] <asac> but something broke that
[00:25] <asac> i haven't tracked that down
[00:26] <asac> yet
[00:26] <Lns> no worries just thought i'd throw it out there =)
[00:26] <asac> its known ;)
[00:26] <asac> a bunch of bugs about that
[00:26] <Lns> cool...yeah the one that worried me the most was the closed tabs thing
[00:26] <asac> its kind of an interesting idea
[00:26] <Lns> i can see both sides of the issue..but i'd have to think that most people would assume when the tab is closed your session w/the site is also closed
[00:27] <Lns> just like if yo uclose the browser window itself
[00:27] <asac> maybe a feature that allows you to invalidate session cookies for current tab/page might exist in form of some extension
[00:28] <asac> Lns: i know, but its difficult.maybe user has more tabs open from same site and so on
[00:28] <Lns> asac: there's no way for FF to know that the tab being closed is the last one from the site open, and therefore closes the session cookie?
[00:28] <Lns> i know i'm probably greatly trivializing it
[00:30] <Lns> maybe a 'treat tabs as windows' option or something
[00:30] <Lns> although i'm not sure if it's the case if you have multiple windows vs tabs
[00:31] <asac> Lns: well. figuring out if its the last one is probably still doable. but the UI is not easy.
[00:31] <asac> you do not want to do that by default it think
[00:31] <asac> so either you make it upon request
[00:31] <asac> or you have a pref the user can change for all sites
[00:31] <asac> or you make that only for certain sites
[00:32] <asac> like bank/launchpad/mozilla
[00:32] <Lns> why not do it by default? I'd think that's the more secure way
[00:32] <asac> but also more annoying
[00:32] <asac> some sites dont need that much security ;)
[00:33] <Lns> really? I mean, I'm just talking for myself but when i close a tab i'm pretty much done with it
[00:33] <asac> but if you visit the site like 20 times a day and still close the page in between?
[00:33] <Lns> i would expect to have to log in again if i went back...it surprised me that it didn't
[00:33] <Lns> why not keep the tab open in those cases? :)
[00:34] <asac> if you do like 300 things in a day
[00:34] <asac> its easier to open what you need on demand
[00:34] <Lns> well that's a poweruser there
[00:34] <asac> than searching for the tab you already have opened ;)
[00:34] <Lns> that would, i think, mandate some manual config to relax the security
[00:34] <asac> depends how you define powerusers
[00:34] <asac> a lot of users use the webbrowser all day
[00:34] <Lns> as i do, with at least 3-7 tabs open at all times
[00:35] <asac> Lns: as i said its an interesting idea
[00:35] <Lns> just thought i'd throw it out there =)
[00:35] <Lns> thanks for listening ;)
[00:36] <asac> i would think that was already discussed though. but we will see
[00:36] <Lns> i'd think so too
[00:38] <asac> mozillla bug 307220
[00:38] <asac> mozillla bug 272030
[00:39] <asac> Lns: ^^
[00:39] <asac> oops
[00:39] <asac> thats wrong ;)
[00:39] <Lns> hehe
[00:39] <asac> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117222
[00:39] <asac> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=210466
[00:40] <asac> last bug is differnet as it seems ;)
[00:40] <Lns> yeah those are a bit different, though related
[00:41] <Lns> so there's no way to force a second browser instance?
[00:42] <Lns> i guess that's why you get a "firefox is already running" ;)
[00:42] <Lns> which is kinda a pita when you close and rapidly re-open it
[00:42] <Lns> before it's done dying
[00:43] <asac> to some degree thats te reason for that already running thing
[00:44] <asac> the real reason is that it checks for X window to see if it needs to start a new process or send a command to an already running one
[00:44] <asac> so if you start them quickly both will not see that window
[00:44] <asac> and think: lets start a full new firefox
[00:44] <asac> then the firefox process loosing the race fails wit hthat alert
[00:46] <Lns> yeah
[00:46] <Lns> too bad there's no easy way to do File -> New -> Session Window
[00:47] <Lns> I guess that's more along the lines of that bug thou
[00:49] <Lns> Oh well, back to work =)
[00:51] <asac> i am off
[00:52] <BUGabundo> bye asac
[00:52] <Nafallo> asac: yes. we know. ;-)
[00:52] <BUGabundo> happy release party
[00:53] <Nafallo> asac: a little bit off, not to much that we will avoid you... :-)
[02:03] <BUGabundo> 2am... guess I'm hitting the pillow! good release party everyone
[08:49] <directhex> asac, does ubufox have any greasemonkeyish ability to tweak a single web page?
[09:20] <asac> directhex: no ;) ... thats what greasemonkey is for
[09:22] <directhex> asac, hm, i was wondering whether it'd work as a nice filthy hack for triggering the plugin finder
[09:28] <asac> directhex: hmm
[09:29] <asac> directhex: if you have an example greasescript that would detect that flash detection kit that would be indeed a great thing
[09:30] <directhex> asac, it doesn't need to be that complex really - every single "install silverlight" button on the internest ends up in the same place - http://go-mono.com/moonlight. so all you need to do is sniff the url
[09:30] <directhex> or i could smile sweetly at upstream to hax their page & detect jaunty
[09:31] <asac> directhex: you mean fixigin Silverlight.js ?
[09:32] <directhex> asac, well, i mean just a hack for that one page to insert a 1 pixel SL control if jaunty is detected, regardless of silverlight.js
[09:34] <asac> directhex: ah. ok. would be good, but finding such a grease script would be better ;)
[09:35] <directhex> asac, well, it's easy for silverlight - because Silverlight.js is pretty much the only detector in wide use, you just check to see if any of its methods are defined
[09:36] <asac> directhex: if you could come up with a prototype that adds a "<object " somewhere on the side (maybe invisible)? would probably workaround
[10:03] <gnomefreak> asac: what is RETR command in thunderbird?
[10:05] <asac> gnomefreak: that looks like an IMAP protocol command
[10:05] <gnomefreak> asac: i hope not since all the email addresses are pop
[10:05] <asac> yeah seems to be a protocol command (could be imap or pop)
[10:05] <asac> gnomefreak: why do you ask?
[10:05] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[10:06] <gnomefreak> asac: i got the error a few times today as well as a few last week
[10:06] <BUGabundo> RETRieve
[10:06] <asac> gnomefreak: so you get a dialog popup?
[10:06] <BUGabundo> it issues the list of unpulled emails
[10:06] <asac> BUGabundo: is that pop or imap (or both)
[10:06] <gnomefreak> asac: yep
[10:07] <BUGabundo> both AFAIK
[10:07] <BUGabundo> most POPs
[10:07] <asac> heh. tha t explains why i got a bunch of hits for imap on google too
[10:07] <gnomefreak> says its a temorary problem
[10:07] <BUGabundo> imap(s) uses last
[10:07] <BUGabundo> *LAST
[10:10] <asac> thx
[10:10] <gnomefreak> asac: did you push 3.0.9 yet?
[10:11] <asac> gnomefreak: if you see it a gain show me a screenshot please
[10:11] <asac> (the RETR)
[10:11] <asac> gnomefreak: its pushed
[10:11] <asac> 8 hours ago i think
[10:11] <asac> to jaunty-security
[10:11] <gnomefreak> asac: ok will do. I'm getting a security announcment on 3.0.9 from the security mailing list
[10:12] <BUGabundo> security pocket already opened?
[10:12] <gnomefreak> from Jamie (not sure who it is but he is with Canonical
[10:12] <gnomefreak> )
[10:15] <asac> gnomefreak: i just sent a dent about it
[10:15] <asac> gnomefreak: jamie is jdstrand
[10:15] <asac> (in this channel too)
[10:15] <BUGabundo> eheh
[10:15] <BUGabundo> u guys use and abuse all means of comunication
[10:15] <gnomefreak> ah ok i havent loaded gwibber yet, its too early to deal with errors
[10:15] <BUGabundo> email, im, irc, microblogs
[10:16] <asac> lol
[10:20] <gnomefreak> ok so most emails are in that small font while some are normal :(
[10:23] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: usual advcice: make a new TB profile and try to reproduce
[10:25]  * gnomefreak hates when people ignore emails
[10:25] <asac> gnomefreak: i guess mails with html vs. plain text
[10:25] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: it doesnt happen all the time, so im fairly sure its not profile related
[10:27] <gnomefreak> asac: that could be it is this more of a Ubuntu issue or Mozilla?
[10:30] <asac> gnomefreak: most likely the user messed his font setup
[10:30] <asac> at least if the difference is so that its annoying
[10:30] <asac> (or its really just a few mails)
[10:30] <asac> users should only allow simple html
[10:30] <gnomefreak> asac: not a few but most are small some are normal
[10:31] <asac> gnomefreak: what is selected in  View -> Mesage Body As ?
[10:31] <asac> use text or simple html
[10:32] <gnomefreak> nothing
[10:33] <gnomefreak> whould i need to restart Tbird?
[10:33] <gnomefreak> if not than plain text didnt work
[10:34] <gnomefreak> HTML doesnt help either
[10:39] <gnomefreak> how are we handling the applicants to extension team?
[10:41] <asac> gnomefreak: if we dont know them they get added to the cheering team
[10:42] <asac> what name was that again?
[10:42] <gnomefreak> https://edge.launchpad.net/~hanen105
[10:42] <gnomefreak> he joined lots of teams
[10:42] <asac> gnomefreak: #ubuntu-release-party ;) ... you are not even there
[10:42] <asac> gnomefreak: we reject him telling that teams are something to contribute first
[10:43] <asac> gnomefreak: point him to the team we have set up
[10:43] <asac> how was that called again?
[10:43] <gnomefreak> mozilla squad
[10:43] <gnomefreak> ubuntu-mozillasquad to be exact
[10:43] <asac> gnomefreak: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozillasquad
[10:43] <asac> yeah
[10:44] <gnomefreak> he was already a member of the team still looking for more info on him
[10:45] <asac> well. we dont know him ;)
[10:45] <asac> reject him and tell him he should contribute here for a while first
[10:46] <gnomefreak> kk
[10:46] <asac> but given that he joined the daily team even
[10:46] <asac> i would think he hasnt done this to contribute ;)
[10:48] <gnomefreak> agreed
[10:50] <directhex> <script type="text/javascript">if(/Ubuntu\/(\d+.\d\d)/.exec(navigator.userAgent)[1]>=9.04)document.write("<object type=\"application/x-silverlight\" data=\"data:application/x-silverlight,\" width=\"0\" height=\"0\" />");</script>
[10:50] <directhex> my first javascript of 2009
[10:52] <armin76> asac: i'm i right thinking that libgtkembedmoz is not available on xul 1.9?
[10:54] <gnomefreak> asac: thanks for updating the mailing list admin <still too damn early>
[10:54] <asac> armin76: yes
[10:54] <armin76> asac: thanks :)
[10:54] <asac> gnomefreak: i found out something good. i can reply to a mime part of the ml approval mail
[10:54] <asac> to reject his mail
[10:54] <asac> so i for rejection you dont even need to go to webinterface
[10:54] <gnomefreak> on sweet
[10:55] <gnomefreak> s/on/oh
[10:55] <asac> same for approvals ... but you have to include the password in the reply to the -request (take care that that doesnt go to list or user if you want to try ;))
[10:55] <asac> gnomefreak: if you look at approval mails there should be two attachments
[10:55] <asac> one is a snipped similar to what you get when you confirm your account on subscription
[10:56] <asac> armin76: those folks need to use the glue
[10:56] <armin76> asac: bumb :)
[10:56] <gnomefreak> ok i see attachments
[10:56] <asac> armin76: 99.99% of those asking that at least dont know
[10:57] <asac> gnomefreak: not sure if you can reply to an attachment in tbird. guess you would need to open it with double click first
[10:57] <asac> gnomefreak: can you open such an attachment as a mail by clicking on it in tbird?
[10:57] <gnomefreak> asac: yes
[10:58] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah. so you should see instructions in there
[10:58] <gnomefreak> i have it open
[10:58] <asac> i didnt really understand the approval ... but the reection is easy ;) ... just reply
[10:58] <gnomefreak> depends there are 2 attachments
[10:58] <asac> without changing anyhting
[10:58] <asac> gnomefreak: well. if you read the content you will see which is the right one
[10:58] <asac> its pretty obvious
[10:58] <asac> has a subject like "confirm ...."
[10:59] <gnomefreak> ah ha found the right attachment
[10:59] <asac> but i think thats a new feature. its definitly a new milestone in mailing list handling ;)
[11:00] <gnomefreak> so for spam i just send a empty email with header and subject intact?
[11:02] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah.
[11:02] <asac> gnomefreak: well you just hit reply
[11:02] <asac> dont need to remove anything from body
[11:02] <asac> just reply ... send
[11:02] <gnomefreak> reply>send
[11:02] <asac> yep
[11:03] <gnomefreak> thats too easy
[11:03] <asac> ;)
[11:03] <BUGabundo> eheh
[11:03] <asac> after having done a few you could start trying how the approval works
[11:03] <BUGabundo> and then we get his pass
[11:03] <asac> let me know if you find
[11:03] <asac> i would think that you probably have to write
[11:03] <asac> Approval: password
[11:03] <asac> in the first line of the body
[11:03] <asac> but the instructions are somewhat unclear
[11:03] <gnomefreak> well leave me a few so i can try it out ;)
[11:03] <asac> no worry
[11:03] <asac> i dont read mail today till evening
[11:04] <gnomefreak> that they are. but who runs it?
[11:04] <asac> gnomefreak: what do you mean?
[11:04] <asac> gnomefreak: oh. can you remove cruft from the mail admins page?
[11:04] <asac> gnomefreak: i guess bluekuja is still in there
[11:04] <gnomefreak> oh eait thats us nevermind, no sense in asking us to make it more clear
[11:04] <asac> he certainly shouldnt get those mails anymore
[11:05] <asac> lol
[11:05] <asac> gnomefreak: ah i see. its mailman upstream freature i guess
[11:05] <asac> gnomefreak: so mailman project  ... or launchpad
[11:05] <gnomefreak> more info on this would be great
[11:05] <asac> they run those lists
[11:05] <asac> gnomefreak: but maybe we can edit the text in the admin interface ;)
[11:05] <BUGabundo> there goes the mirror
[11:05] <BUGabundo> its out
[11:06] <asac> gnomefreak: i would suggest to check mailman documentation
[11:06] <asac> they probably explain that
[11:06] <gnomefreak> ok i can do that this week i hope
[11:07] <asac> gnomefreak: http://www.modwest.com/help/kb13-283.html
[11:07] <gnomefreak> oh this cant be good
[11:07] <asac> there is a bit more ... search for -request
[11:07] <asac> anyway ... you will figure
[11:08] <gnomefreak> ok they close the bug but say its not yet fixed in tbird b3pre
[11:09] <gnomefreak> oh i see tbird's xul is being changed to 1.9.2a1pre
[11:09] <gnomefreak> from 1.9.1
[11:09] <gnomefreak> oh no thats 3.1
[11:09] <gnomefreak> can we get that added to dailies
[11:12] <gnomefreak> that didnt give me anything, i keep looking after smoke =>email
[11:13] <asac> gnomefreak: i think we had a branch for 3.1 at some point
[11:14] <gnomefreak> Planning for transition from FF 3.0 to FF 3.5  doesnt make sense i think someone messed the subject up
[11:14] <asac> not sure if fta kept on maintaing that
[11:14] <gnomefreak> ok i can ping him later if im here
[11:14] <asac> gnomefreak: fta is away for a few weeks ;)
[11:14] <gnomefreak> ok i wont ping him later ;)
[11:14] <asac> he is doing kind of a long term trip ;)
[11:16] <gnomefreak> i can use one of those too
[11:16] <asac> ack++
[11:16] <asac> i could just go and live in the dschungle for a while
[11:17] <asac> just next to a nice waterfall so i can cool myself down ;)
[11:17] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:17] <gnomefreak> be back smoke
[11:40]  * gnomefreak forgot to call babysitter
[11:40] <gnomefreak> asac: take a look at but 105915  i dont see any auto filter
[11:40] <gnomefreak> opps
[11:41] <gnomefreak> bug 105915
[11:41] <gnomefreak> or not
[11:41] <gnomefreak> bug 105918
[11:41] <gnomefreak> there you go
[11:54] <asac> ooking
[11:55] <asac> gnomefreak: do you have filteres. isnt there a filter* file somewhere in profile
[11:55] <asac> ask user to attach that
[11:55] <gnomefreak> ok will do
[11:56] <asac> gnomefreak: its msgFilterRules.dat
[11:56] <asac> its somewhere in the profile
[11:57] <asac> i think in the directory of the account the filter was created for
[11:57] <gnomefreak> i dont see it in mine
[11:57] <gnomefreak> under default
[11:58] <gnomefreak> no wonder im llooking in firefox :(
[12:00] <asac> lol
[12:00] <gnomefreak> asac: filterlog.html or the messagefilters...dat
[12:00] <asac> gnomefreak: .mozilla-thunderbird
[12:00] <asac> is tbird 2
[12:00] <gnomefreak> yep
[12:00] <asac> .thunderbird-3.0 is tbir 3
[12:00] <gnomefreak> yeah i know
[12:00] <gnomefreak> msgFilterRules.dat
[12:01] <gnomefreak> yeap its the .dat
[12:02] <asac> gnomefreak: you have jaunty-security lines for sources.list at hand?
[12:02] <gnomefreak> yeah you sould too :)
[12:02] <asac> gnomefreak: can you plesae post your lines
[12:03] <gnomefreak> holy shit
[12:03] <gnomefreak> they are not in there
[12:03] <gnomefreak> thats a bad bug
[12:04] <gnomefreak> -proposed is added but security isnt? this is default list from a clean install
[12:04] <asac> gnomefreak: go to administration -> software sources and enable them ;)
[12:05] <gnomefreak> they should be in /etc/apt/sources.list upon install, hint these repos are important
[12:05] <asac> gnomefreak: they are in there if you install ... i am pretty sure
[12:05] <asac> its just that i removed them manually i gues
[12:05] <asac> as i usualyl run development release
[12:05] <asac> and hence i dont ned them ;)
[12:05] <gnomefreak> not here during last install maybe 3 weeks ago
[12:07] <gnomefreak> maybe because its not final?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> but people that use pre release will now have to add them
[12:08] <asac> nah
[12:08] <asac> i think its been in there since beta at least
[12:08] <asac> i made a few test install after beta and it was in tere for sure
[12:09] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: -proposed is not enabled by default
[12:09] <BUGabundo> and it needs a serious work!!!
[12:09] <BUGabundo> it should use apt-listchanges to let the user know what BUG its testing
[12:09] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: i know but security repos are not in the sources.list
[12:10] <BUGabundo> really?
[12:10] <BUGabundo> clean install?
[12:11] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/644059 is from clean install around Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:47:46 -0400
[12:11]  * gnomefreak doesnt see security in there
[12:16] <asac> gnomefreak:
[12:16] <asac> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-security universe main multiverse restricted
[12:16] <BUGabundo> thats strange
[12:16] <asac> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-security universe main multiverse restricted
[12:16] <asac> deb http://ubuntu.intergenia.de/ubuntu/ jaunty-updates universe main multiverse restricted
[12:16] <asac> deb-src http://ubuntu.intergenia.de/ubuntu/ jaunty-updates universe main multiverse restricted
[12:16] <asac> i just added those
[12:16] <BUGabundo> let me ask on +1
[12:18] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: 2 ppl just checked and its there!
[12:18] <gnomefreak> thats a stock list
[12:18] <gnomefreak> i didnt touch that one
[12:19] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: also upgrade will have them
[12:19] <gnomefreak> this is clean install
[12:19] <BUGabundo> fresh install
[12:19] <BUGabundo> thats what i asked
[12:21] <BUGabundo> really strange
[12:21] <BUGabundo> at lunch i'll try a kvm image
[12:21] <BUGabundo> i'm getting confirmations of FF3.0.9 getting installed!
[12:23] <BUGabundo> http://pastebin.com/m65f878e5
[12:28] <gnomefreak> asac: bug 365357 have you seen this problem? I havent in a while
[12:30] <gnomefreak> yuck i dont think it is xulrunner but ill ask a few
[12:36] <asac> gnomefreak: yes thats etcinsvk
[12:36] <gnomefreak> thought so
[12:36] <gnomefreak> i commented but i havent sent it yet
[12:37] <gnomefreak> im trying to break u-n atm
[12:37] <gnomefreak> l;ets hope that works
[12:41] <gnomefreak> asac: should flashplugin-installer depend on *-nonfree
[12:41] <gnomefreak> and the other way -nonfree depend on -installer
[12:42] <asac> gnomefreak: its all ok as it is atm
[12:42] <asac> -nonfree depends on installer ... but not the other way around
[12:43] <gnomefreak> asac: bug 365400 i marked as ubufox
[12:43] <gnomefreak> not sure exactly what he means, -installer is what?
[12:44] <asac> flashplugin-installer is the new package name
[12:45] <gnomefreak> for -nonfree?
[12:45] <asac> yes
[12:45] <gnomefreak> if so than it should install -nonfree when -installer is installed
[12:46] <gnomefreak> or at least use replaces
[12:46] <gnomefreak> sorry conflicts or replaces
[12:51] <gnomefreak> ok damnit where did the firefox bug about assertiuon error (not restarting after update?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> opps go
[12:52] <asac> gnomefreak: no ... it installs installer in case non free is installed
[12:53] <asac> just the other way around
[12:53] <asac> we migrate to installer and not to nonfree
[12:54] <gnomefreak> than installer should be enough to view flash?
[12:55] <asac> yes
[12:55] <asac> gnomefreak: i already asked on the bug
[12:55] <gnomefreak> k
[13:23] <asac> gnomefreak: when i say: "this is a bug in firefox, not ubufox, you dont need to say: "this isnt a bug in firefox" and invalidate that
[13:23] <asac> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/355112
[13:23] <asac> you did that to that bug
[13:26] <asac> fixed bug
[13:27] <gnomefreak> commented
[13:27] <gnomefreak> i missed a few posts that being one of them
[13:29] <asac> good
[13:30] <asac> no problem
[13:33] <gnomefreak> ok back to TV for a while. need break before FTBFS :)
[14:03] <gnomefreak> asac: when repling to mailing list i double click on the attachment and reply or i reply to the normal email?
[14:08] <apachelogger> ~order birthday package for asac
[14:08]  * kubotu is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present.
[14:08]  * kubotu slides a birthday cake and a present down the bar to asac and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer.
[14:08] <kubotu> Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday asac, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho!
[14:08] <kubotu> Happy Birthday asac :D
[14:08] <kubotu> To your health!
[14:08]  * apachelogger hugs asac
[14:08] <[reed]> ah, hippy barfday, asac
[14:12] <BUGabundo> bday? ohhhh happy b'day asac !!!!
[14:13] <armin76> happy bday asacbuntu
[14:18] <gnomefreak> happy birthday asac for some reason i thought you just had one
[14:20] <gnomefreak> ok back to SM-2 again be back later (i hope later rather than sooner)
[14:22] <asac> thanks
[14:22] <asac> usually i dont announce my birthday ;)
[14:22] <asac> but today i had to because of this nice coincident
[14:23] <BUGabundo> eheheh
[14:24] <BUGabundo> so its asacbuntu
[14:24] <asac> right ;)
[14:24] <BUGabundo> or jaunty alex
[14:24] <asac> too bad i dont have a j ;)
[14:24] <BUGabundo> Alexander Jackalop
[14:24] <BUGabundo> LOLOL
[14:25] <asac> hehe
[14:25] <asac> anyway ... doing extended lunch now to celebrate this special moment ;)
[14:27] <BUGabundo> go a head
[14:27] <BUGabundo> have a slice of cake on me
[14:28] <BUGabundo> u deserv
[14:32] <gnomefreak> have a strong drink for me ;)
[14:32] <gnomefreak> for me and ill buy
[14:33]  * gnomefreak back to this broken crap
[14:33] <armin76> [reed]: did you saw the bugs where i cc'ed you?
[14:37] <[reed]> armin76: which one?
[14:38] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: u just want to give him a bad liver
[14:38] <BUGabundo> smoke is bad enough already
[14:39] <gnomefreak> smoke drink bad but fun :)
[14:40] <armin76> [reed]: yesterday, super-h related
[14:40] <[reed]> got bug #s?
[14:40] <[reed]> ah
[14:40] <[reed]> I see
[14:41] <[reed]> I skipped over those
[14:41] <[reed]> apparently
[14:41] <armin76> :(
[14:42] <[reed]> ok, I've tagged reviewers
[14:42] <[reed]> that basically what you want?
[14:52] <armin76> yup, thanks
[15:05] <gnomefreak> [reed]: was the pango patch commited upstream yet?
[15:05] <[reed]> I do believe so
[15:06] <[reed]> let me look
[15:06] <gnomefreak> [reed]: thanks
[15:08] <[reed]> mozilla bug 478871
[15:08] <[reed]> yep, fixed
[15:08] <gnomefreak> [reed]: thanks now it might build :)
[15:31] <gnomefreak> ok its at a safe point to walk away, be back to check on build later
[15:59] <gnomefreak> 1687 people in #ubuntu :) and im still not here im just scared its going to fail
[17:05] <gnomefreak> damn thing still fails to build
[17:15] <asac> gnomefreak: sunbird?
[17:15] <asac> or sm2
[17:15] <gnomefreak> sm2
[17:15] <asac> how does it fail?
[17:16] <asac> same pango thing?
[17:16] <asac> probably didnt apply the patch
[17:16] <asac> properly
[17:19] <gnomefreak> asac: no its not pango give me a minute and ill post it
[17:19] <asac> k
[17:22] <gnomefreak> asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/644076
[17:23] <gnomefreak> i doubt its our bug
[17:33] <gnomefreak> looking upstream for bug but cant find the string errors anywhere. im here and eating and searching :)
[17:57] <gnomefreak> LP is still very very slow
[19:10] <[reed]> asac: heads-up, we're firedrilling
[19:10] <[reed]> "yay"
[20:44] <NCommander> Are there known issues with Firefox on SPARC?
[20:53] <g0ph3r> hi folks, after todays update of firefox 3.0.9, i can't start thunderbird anymore: it always gives only a segfault. i'm using ubuntu 8.10. what puzzled me a bit is that i could not find a bug about this... so i was wondering if this might be just me and stumbled in on here to check if this is already a known issue or not
[21:03] <g0ph3r> hm... well, i guess i'll try more tomorrow. it's getting late for me now
[21:28] <[reed]> NCommander: yes
[21:29] <NCommander> [reed], anything I can do to help?
[21:29] <[reed]> talk to armin76
[21:30] <NCommander> armin76, ping
[22:02] <armin76> NCommander: hi, whats up?
[22:04] <armin76> oh
[22:05] <armin76> NCommander: well, not much you can do, or yes, have a look at mozilla bug 448658
[22:06] <armin76> look at my align.patch and find a solution for it so it works on msvc :)
[22:34] <asac> [reed]: *sigh*
[22:37] <NCommander> armin76, I can fix it on MSVC
[22:37] <asac> [reed]: hmm... no mail i see about the cause
[22:37] <asac> oh found something
[22:37] <NCommander> armin76, can we get it into karmic though (and maybe SRU into jaunty?)
[22:41] <asac> NCommander: the patch should land upstream ... then it will get automatically to all our releases
[22:42] <NCommander> asac, I want it fixed for the existing releases
[22:42] <NCommander> I actually have a SPARC box I care about
[22:42] <asac> "... then it will get automatically to all our releases"
[22:42] <NCommander> ... huh?
[22:42] <asac> all includes existing releases
[22:42]  * NCommander maybe missing how Mozilla is SRUed
[22:43] <asac> NCommander: mozilla is SRUed monthly through -security ;)
[22:43] <NCommander> Neat
[22:45] <BUGabundo> asac: what are you doing here? go celebrate your bday with family and real world friends!
[22:45] <asac> heh. i already did ;) ... more to come on weekend
[22:45] <asac> but thanks ;)
[22:46] <BUGabundo> eheh np
[22:46] <NCommander> armin76, that build failure looks unrelated to the alignment change O_o;
[23:40] <kbrosnan> Mozilla is doing a 3.5b4 test day tomorrow http://quality.mozilla.org/events/2009/apr/24/firefox-35-beta-4-test-day any questions /msg me
[23:40] <BUGabundo> yay
[23:49] <NCommander> armin76, I'm looking into how to resolve this and fix on MSVC. SPARC alignment is similar to ARM so I think I can use some of the same tricks to fix it