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mattwj2002there is a new release of ubuntu coming out00:00
mattwj2002I am thinking about converting from the 32bit to the 64bit version of mythbuntu00:00
mattwj2002are there a lot of problems with the 64 bit version?00:00
rhpot1991mattwj2002: shouldn't be00:41
rhpot1991and yes, tomorrow00:41
mattwj2002okay cool00:42
mattwj2002well I am going to move my files around for the big release :D00:42
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PontySo, aside from VNC and similar software, I'm aware of the telnet `server` but have yet to figure out how to use it.  I tried MythTV and all that does is stream from the machine to the PC I'm making the requests from....01:01
PontyWhat I'm looking for is something I can control the Mythbuntu box remotely from to play videos stored on the machine.01:02
PontyI've used google to look up "REMOTE CONTROL" and ... well... most the hits I get are coming up with the universal remote controls, not remotely controling the machine.01:03
PontyIdeas?01:03
hadsWhat type of remote control?01:04
PontyPC remote control.01:05
hadsBuy a remote.01:05
hadsIf you are more specific perhaps we can help more.01:06
PontyPrior to my installing Mythbuntu, I was using VLC and its HTTP interface.  It did what I wanted to do, with the exception that the javascript was extremely buggy and prone to getting to the point where I had to reboot.01:07
PontyMythTV looked good, but when I finally got it setup, all it does is stream from the HTPC to the machine I'm using.01:07
PontyWhta I want to do is use a remote PC to tell the HTPC to play videos on the TV.01:07
PontyI can SSH to the machine, and I can use mplayer to start playing the file, and I get the audio, but not video.01:08
PontySo another question would be how I can redirect the video feed to not use the SSH session but go to the television or the desktop on the HTPC?01:09
hadsDISPLAY=:0 mplayer foo.bar01:09
PontyI was JUST typing about display... Alright.  I'll try that later.  That might be all I need to do.01:10
hadsMythTV is a full interface, so perhaps not what you want.01:10
tgm4883Ponty, to be clear, you want to be able to control the frontend from a web browser?01:10
tgm4883is that right? or something else?01:10
hadsDesigned to be used maximised with a remote control.01:10
hadsYou can control it via the telnet interface also, I do that every day.01:10
Pontytgm> Web browser, telnet, SSH, whatever.  Any method to control the front end.01:11
tgm4883Ponty, no problemo then01:11
tgm4883just a sec01:11
tgm4883you can control it via mythweb01:11
Pontyhads> Do you have instructions on how to do that?  I was able to get into the telnet session on port 4830 or whatever, but, couldn't figure it out.01:11
Pontytgm> mythweb != mythtv I hope?01:11
hadsIt's part of mythtv.01:12
tgm4883Ponty, http://BACKENDIP/mythweb/remote01:12
hadstelnet yourhostname 6546; help01:12
tgm4883Ponty, you can control the frontend from there01:12
hadsmythweb uses the telnet interface to control the frontend01:12
tgm4883thats correct, it uses the telnet interface to do it01:12
Ponty... nice.01:12
hadsThat's why I said it :)01:12
tgm4883so whichever you are more comfortable with01:13
hadsThe mythweb thing is kinda weird though.01:13
PontyVia mythweb, when I try to hit a button, it tells me "no front ends have been selected" however, theres only one, and when I click on it, nothing happens.01:14
PontyNow it just popped up saying "Distro is not responding".01:16
hadsYou need to enable the telnet interface.01:17
PontyIt is running.01:17
Ponty.. well it was.01:17
hadsDid you enable it in the frontend?01:17
PontyI was using it last night.01:18
PontyNo changes in the front end for about a month now.01:18
hadsSo you did enable it in the frontend settings then?01:19
PontyShould be enabled, yes.01:19
hadsYou might want to check,01:19
Ponty Checking01:20
Ponty"Network remote control port" = 654601:24
PontyAnd "Enable network remote control interface" is enabled.01:24
hadsGood. Now you can try "telnet $HOSTNAME 6546"01:25
PontyIt just sits there.01:27
PontyYesterday it was giving me a # prompt.  Today, nadda.01:28
hadsThen it's not working.01:28
hadsClose and reopen the frontend.01:28
PontyThe kids are watching a movie right now.  If I kill the process, will it kill mplayer?01:28
hadsLikely. I don't use mplayer myself01:29
PontyI'll wait till its over then I'll drop it.  Even reboot it if necessary.01:30
hadsIt's not.01:30
hadsAnyway, when you are in the telnet interface, type help, it will show you the commands.01:30
PontyI saw that, but hadn't figured out how to launch a movie yet.01:30
Pontystephen@distro:~$ netstat -ao | grep 654601:32
Pontytcp        0      0 *:6546                  *:*                     LISTEN      keepalive (0.00/0/0)01:32
Pontystephen@distro:~$ netstat -ao | grep 654601:32
Pontytcp        0      0 *:6546                  *:*                     LISTEN      keepalive (0.00/0/0)01:32
Pontyerr.  sorry.01:32
PontyBRB01:33
PontySick kid. *sigh*01:49
darthanubishow do I get mythfilldatabase to retrieve channel icons?02:11
darthanubisI can't seem to get the right option to send it to do so02:11
darthanubisthx02:11
darthanubis--do-channel-updates ?02:12
darthanubis--update-icon-map ?02:15
tgm4883maybe try it?02:16
darthanubisso far no go02:17
darthanubis--reset-icon-map well see if this is it02:17
darthanubisthe channel icon download via the mythtv-setup bails out before icons can be downloaded. Then the setup drops to the desktop02:23
darthanubisI always look for help when I can never get it02:50
darthanubisyou'd think there02:50
darthanubisthre would be some docs for mythbuntu covering channel icons02:50
MythbuntuGuest41I'm looking for the Mythbuntu 9.04 RC default mysql password02:50
MythbuntuGuest41I have tried blank, but no go02:51
MythbuntuGuest41sorry root password02:51
darthanubislook in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt02:53
darthanubismkiconmap.pl does not come with ubuntu's version of mythtv:(02:54
darthanubisIf you have XMLTV software installed, there is a perl script in MythTV's contrib/ directory which will generate this file for you. Run the command:  $ perl mkiconmap.pl02:55
darthanubishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/WhatNext/channel_icons02:57
darthanubishttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65962303:15
superm1MythbuntuGuest41, it's defaulting to your user password03:59
superm1MythbuntuGuest41, so whatever you picked during installation04:00
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womboHas anybody here got SPDIF to work? I can get sound ok in mplayer but nothing in Mythtv when AC3/DTS passthrough is enabled09:46
womboBasically I want to use AC3/DTS when available if not available just push normal stereo through the SPDIF port09:46
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MythbuntuGuest78hi13:59
rhpot1991hi14:04
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ernstptorrents working for anyone?14:54
superm1ernstp, they should be now14:58
superm1i'm seeding amd64 at least14:58
ernstpI'm not getting any response from the tracker on my mythbuntu image it seems like14:59
r3zIf my box is x64 capable would it be better to put x64 on it or x32?15:00
superm1ernstp, amd64 or i386?15:00
ernstpsuperm1: both actually15:00
superm1ernstp, that's odd, i do see 3 peers on the amd64 that i'm seeding to15:01
ernstpr3z: I'd go 64-bit15:01
superm1r3z, agreed w/ ernstp15:01
ernstpsuperm1: guess the p2p part works, but the tracker is chocked15:01
superm1ernstp, oh probably because we share a tracker with ubuntu15:01
superm1and it's got a lot of load15:02
r3zk15:08
r3zI didnt know what real benefit for video processing I would get with 64bit.15:09
bradleeeall: if there is anyone who admins mythbuntu.org, this page gives a 403:15:10
bradleeehttp://www.mythbuntu.org/9.04/Release_notes15:10
tgm4883bradleee, thanks, fixed15:11
womboexpect it is access denied15:11
tgm4883does it work now?15:12
wombonope15:12
r3zAccess denied15:13
r3zYou are not authorized to access this page.15:13
womboPlease tgm4883, give us the powa15:13
wombo:)15:13
tgm4883hmm15:13
bradleeestill 40315:14
wombolet me guess in the release notes we need to be careful of some graphics cards15:14
womboit is running the latest .21-fixes15:14
womboalternate disks are not being made15:15
womboimprovements in the underlying Ubuntu 9.0415:15
womboMythexport and a deb for getting the weeklies is available15:16
superm1bradleee, should be fine now. i think it was a website caching problem15:24
bradleeerefresh->200 OK.  thanks!15:24
* r3z is going to swap his old mythdora box over to mythbuntu this weekend15:27
r3zthats gonna be fun :(15:27
MythbuntuGuest64hi17:06
MythbuntuGuest64what is the standard ubuntu remastering tool?17:07
MythbuntuGuest64(in the changelog from 9.04)17:07
alecjcookhello17:12
tgm4883MythbuntuGuest64, remastersys maybe?17:12
tgm4883don't know, we don't use that17:13
alecjcookI am trying to install Mythbuntu from a Live CD. It gets to the Partition window and there is no Hard Disk selectable... If I boot the computer from the bios, I can clearly see the hard drive... I am using a Maxtor 250GB IDE HD with a SATA converter, attached to the SATA bus of a Scaleo E computer. Any ideas? I assume Mythbuntu does not include the drivers for my SATA connector, is there any way to check? Or am I barking up the wrong tree?17:15
superm1MythbuntuGuest64, it's livecd-rootfs17:20
superm1MythbuntuGuest64, its actually not a remastering tool, its a mastering tool17:20
superm1so this is entirely built from scratch17:20
alecjcookmy IDE / SATA converter is an ABIT SERILLEL 017:22
MythbuntuGuest64thx superml17:41
alecjcookI am trying to install Mythbuntu from a Live CD. It gets to the Partition window and there is no Hard Disk selectable... If I boot the computer from the bios, I can clearly see the hard drive... I am using a Maxtor 250GB IDE HD with a SATA converter, attached to the SATA bus of a Scaleo E computer. Any ideas? I assume Mythbuntu does not include the drivers for my SATA connector, is there any way to check? Or am I barking up the wrong tree? my I18:46
Staticwave_AceHello all, just installed mythbuntu freshly in a VM to play, and noticed that in primary backend only role, many of the directories are missing in /var/lib/mythtv20:02
Staticwave_Acealso, mythnettv-gui is broken on first run, it needs some kind of data directory that doesn't exist20:02
r3zAny of you migrated from Mythdora to mythbuntu?20:04
* r3z is wondering what a pain in the ass its gonna be.20:04
rhpot1991r3z: backend, frontend?20:37
r3zboth ;)20:37
* r3z has an all in one box ;)20:37
rhpot1991r3z: I'd check your schema version, dump the db, backup your recordings, do a fresh intsall and put everything back on the box20:37
r3zYa. That is my plan.20:38
r3zWhere does mythbuntu store data by default?20:38
rhpot1991r3z: go browse the mythtv wiki, there are pages on backing up and restoring the db20:38
r3zYa I know how to do that.20:38
rhpot1991r3z: /var/lib/mythtv I'm pretty sure20:39
r3zCurrently using /storage with mythdora20:39
rhpot1991I use /mythtv20:39
r3zHave a seperate Disk setup for the /storage20:39
* r3z is mostly worried about recording schedules but also want my old recordings to be able to come over too...20:40
rhpot1991really doesn't matter where you park them, just gotta make sure the permissions are ok and that you tell mythtv where that is20:40
r3zYa,20:40
* r3z cant remember if the storage volume is LVM or not :(20:42
rhpot1991r3z: not much of a reason to use LVM anymore, storage groups give you that functionality20:43
r3zYa20:43
rhpot1991then you don't need to deal with LVM headaches either20:43
r3zTHis was built off of an old fedora build with mythdora20:43
r3zYa its LVM.20:44
r3zWonder if I can get that to preserve.20:44
r3zEasily that is.20:44
rhpot1991r3z: copy them to another box and format it down, if you have the space20:45
rhpot1991might be a good time for spring cleaning as well20:45
r3zProbably will have to do that.20:45
r3zWill need to run a network cable over to it and only have a 100mbit switch :(20:45
r3zTrimmed down now.20:59
r3zonly using 100 gig ;)21:00
r3zStill gonna take a while to transfer :(21:00
* r3z thinks he might just get his wife's external HD and hook it up.21:00
r3zMight be faster lol21:00
rhpot1991r3z: a good external HD is a savior for these kind of jobs21:00
r3zYa.21:01
r3zTha is what I will do ;)21:01
r3zI might just delete everything and start fresh -thedatabase21:01
r3zRecording schedules is all I REALLY care about.21:02
rhpot1991r3z: do a db dump first, just incase21:02
rhpot1991always good to have around21:02
r3zI am going to.21:02
rhpot1991also you can pull specific tables if you want21:02
r3zYa.21:02
r3zProlly pull the whole thing to get all the old programs and stuff and not cherry pick.21:03
r3zGonna do it tomorrow night I think.21:03
rhpot1991make it a weekend project21:04
r3zI will start it tomorrow night.21:04
r3zNothing records saturday :)21:04
rhpot1991nothing sucks more than when you are up till 4am so you don't miss the wife's soap opera the next day21:04
r3zHah21:05
r3zwife doesnt watch soaps thank god.21:05
r3zWe pretty much only record stuff we both watch21:05
r3zUsually dont have time to watch tv by myself heh21:05
rhpot1991thats actually how I started my mythnetwork, used recording that as a reason to buy toys21:05
* r3z is probably gonna set up a few laptops I have as frontends ;)21:06
r3zMy ubuntu laptop I use is gonna be a frontend in case I wanna watch something in bed ;)21:06
r3zEventually I will buy an HD card and put in it.21:07
r3zFor now I just have my PVR50021:07
r3zWhich works fabulously btw ;)21:08
r3zin case noone knew that card rocks hah21:08
rhpot1991r3z: when you shop for a HD tunner, I hightly recommend the HDHR21:11
rhpot1991as do many of the other devs21:11
* r3z has not set one of those up before21:12
MythbuntuGuest30Hey All, getting ready to install mythbuntu 9.04 for first time (switching from knoppmyth). Anything to look out for that people have been having probs with?21:42
* r3z hasnt seen anyone complaining too much today ;)21:48
uniscriptI'm not sure if this is the right forum to ask, but I'm starting to get desperate, so any pointers would be appreciated22:27
tgm4883uniscript, diversify your portfolio22:27
uniscriptI'm in the US for a week and want to buy a USB video capture device for sub $100 that works for linux22:27
uniscriptI can't seem to synchronise the lists of supported devices with shops22:27
uniscriptcan anyone help?22:28
uniscripttgm4883: I'm trying to spend what's left of my portfolio :)22:28
tgm4883are you looking for a device that works in linux in general, or that is well supported in mythtv?22:28
uniscriptlinux in general for video capture, but I thought mythtv folk might be in the know22:29
uniscriptand I assume if it works for mythtv it'll work for linux in general22:29
tgm4883I have an hvr-950 that works pretty well, IIRC, I just had to load the firmware22:30
uniscriptbtw the device could well end up in a jungle somewhere22:30
uniscriptand where did you get it?22:30
tgm4883I got mine at circuit city, but IIRC, best buy has them too22:30
tgm4883theres also the pinnicle hdtv pro stick I think22:31
uniscriptso this would plug and play or would I need to hunt down some firmware22:31
uniscriptthe pinnacle is known to work?22:31
tgm4883you would need to find the firmware22:31
tgm4883sec22:31
uniscript(and yes I need PAL too)22:31
uniscript(wouldn't want to make the hunt too easy :))22:31
tgm4883well, you aren't going to find a PAL stick in a store in the US22:32
uniscriptwell both then22:33
* tgm4883 shrugs22:34
Shadow__Xwhat device does both22:34
tgm4883heres the data on the 950  http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_WinTV_HVR-95022:34
tgm4883I don't know if it does pal, although i'm not sure that even matters, you just need to capture the signal22:34
tgm4883so you probably need a dvb-t card22:34
tgm4883(or -s -c)22:35
Shadow__Xyeah22:35
uniscriptit's so hard, wail22:43
MythbuntuGuest07Hello. Trying to partition my drive correctly.  Can someone verify this:  / (OS)  , SWAP and data should go to /usr/local?23:25
MythbuntuGuest07Converting from knoppmyth, and they had sep. partition for data, I assume it s/b /usr/local in mytbuntu?23:26
hadsHuh?23:26
hads/usr/local isn't typically used - unless you want to of course.23:27
MythbuntuGuest07I have 3 partitions already.  hda1 which s/b OS right?  and then Swap, and then recordings normally go into /hda3 which I map to /usr/local?23:28
hadss/b?23:28
MythbuntuGuest07s/b = should be -- sorry23:28
hadsAhh :)23:28
hadsI believe mythbuntu puts recordings under /var by default.23:28
MythbuntuGuest07ok, so I should be ok by setting install for partion hda3 (data from knoppmyth) to /var?  and then hda1 is / (for OS)23:29
MythbuntuGuest07will that work?23:29
hadshda1 etc. don't nessecarily map to anything in particular as they could be different on each system.23:29
hadsUbuntu uses scsi names for disks these days too, so sda etc.23:29
MythbuntuGuest07I guess my first partion I mean, where my knoppmyth OS used to be, I would map that on the partioner to /?23:30
hadsAnd no, you shouln't just set your hda3 partition to /var23:30
hadsAre you sating that you're trying to install over the top of an old install. Doesn't sound like a good idea.23:30
hadss/sating/saying/23:30
MythbuntuGuest07Yes, I would like to reformat partion 1, which is where knoppmyth used to be. And my recordings were on a diff. partion23:31
hadsOk then exclude your recordings partition from the install and set it up later.23:31
MythbuntuGuest07I guess I can install everything to partion 1 and then symlink /var (or wherever the datafiles are held) to the right partion?23:31
hads"under /var" means somewhere in that tree by the way, not just directly in /var which is used for all sorts of things.23:32
MythbuntuGuest07right.23:32
MythbuntuGuest07ok. thanks for your help. I'll do that.23:33
MythbuntuGuest07I might be back, tried 8.10 awhile ago and couldn't get my serial irblaster going, hopefully it will work this time.23:33
MythbuntuGuest07thanks again...23:33
DisabledDucki'm running an M3N78-VM motherboard with onboard HDMI, the video works flawlessly, but for the life of me i cannot get it to play audio through the HDMI, does anyone have any idea's what the problem could be?23:39
bicchiCan I make like a tivo with mythbuntu? I got an old pc with a PCI tv card i can use. I want to be able to schedule and record programs.23:42
bicchiI plan to put the pc next to the tv and use it as a dvr. Would I be able to mythbuntu for this?23:43
MythbuntuGuest07yes, that is what it was designed for :)23:43
MythbuntuGuest07I can't help you with the hdmi stuff though23:43
bicchibut i will be able to see the tv listing for my area (USA)23:44
MythbuntuGuest07yes, you will need to sign up with schedules direct23:44
bicchicost $ ?23:44
MythbuntuGuest07$20/year  http://www.schedulesdirect.org/23:45
MythbuntuGuest07You may want to do a little checking to make sure your PCI Tv card will work, most will23:45
bicchiHow do i display the recording back unto the tv? Do i need a video card that has a tv-out23:46
DisabledDuckhow do i untar a file?23:46
MythbuntuGuest07yes, I use an old nvidia that has s-video (and others) out.23:46
bicchii have a Hauppauge WinTV PVR-25023:46
MythbuntuGuest07That is what I have,  that will work great23:46
bicchidoes the remote control work?23:47
MythbuntuGuest07yes23:47
bicchiso you do not need to use the mouse to move around?23:47
MythbuntuGuest07will you be getting the TV from a cable or satellite box?23:47
bicchicable23:47
MythbuntuGuest07No you dont need a mouse, unless you install something like firefox23:47
MythbuntuGuest07You will need to get an "irblaster" to change the channels on your cablebox, or you'll have to do that manually.23:48
MythbuntuGuest07Some cable boxes have the firewire ports open and can use that to change channels.23:48
bicchido mythtv does not changes to the schedule channel23:49
MythbuntuGuest07DisabledDuck - Does that tar file end with .tar or .tar.gz or .tgz?23:49
DisabledDuck.tar23:49
bicchiso mythtv does not changes to the schedule channel?23:49
MythbuntuGuest07tar -xvvf myfile.tar  In the above example command the system would uncompress (untar) the myfile.tar file in the current directory.23:50
MythbuntuGuest07bicchi - even the tivo (standalone one) needs to have an irblaster to change the channels on the cable box.23:50
bicchibut i do not need a cable box to change channels.23:50
bicchii have cable tv but it is direct.23:50
MythbuntuGuest07you should be fine then23:50
bicchione day i plan to ugrade to digital cable. will there be issues with it? it does require a cable box.23:51
MythbuntuGuest07yes you will need an irblaster if you use a cable or satellite box.  But mine was only like $1223:51
MythbuntuGuest07However, some cable boxes enable the firewire port, which you can use. I dont know much about that though23:52
bicchiok23:52
bicchido i need to configure the remote control or does it work by default on linux23:52
MythbuntuGuest07when you install mythbunt, one of the screens will ask what remote you have.  Select "Hauppauge TV Card" thats about it23:53
MythbuntuGuest07You can modify the buttons if you want - later that is.23:53
hadsTry it and find out23:54
bicchihads: i will. just trying to find as much info before i proceed.23:54
MythbuntuGuest07Yeah it is very fun project.  You can install it and forget it or "Tinker" to your hearts content :)23:54
MythbuntuGuest07It is a great way to learn linux too23:55
bicchiwell that i know already.23:55
bicchiany other tips you can give me with that card. problems/issues/fall backs?23:56
MythbuntuGuest07Just make sure that the PC is fairly quiet if you are going to put it next to the TV.  Wives dont like loud PC's in the living room :)23:56
bicchitrue23:56
bicchii might get me a fanless machine or one with 120mm fan23:56
MythbuntuGuest07That PVR-250 works right out of the box. I've been running 2 of them23:56
bicchiso if you get 2 you get to record 2 schedules at the same time?23:57
MythbuntuGuest07yes23:57
bicchinice23:57
bicchiwell, thanks for your help23:58
MythbuntuGuest07np23:59

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