[00:00] there is a new release of ubuntu coming out [00:00] I am thinking about converting from the 32bit to the 64bit version of mythbuntu [00:00] are there a lot of problems with the 64 bit version? [00:41] mattwj2002: shouldn't be [00:41] and yes, tomorrow [00:42] okay cool [00:42] well I am going to move my files around for the big release :D [00:56] !help [00:56] !help For a complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number]. === Pontiac is now known as Ponty [00:59] refund [00:59] !help refund [00:59] !help refund For a complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number]. [00:59] !refund [00:59] For your refund, please pm me your SSN, your bank account number, your birthday, your mothers maiden name, the credit card number that you wish your refund to go back to, your dogs name, your neighbors kids favorite movie, and a twix bar [00:59] Ah. Well... Ya had me on that until ya mentioned the twix bar. :P [01:01] So, aside from VNC and similar software, I'm aware of the telnet `server` but have yet to figure out how to use it. I tried MythTV and all that does is stream from the machine to the PC I'm making the requests from.... [01:02] What I'm looking for is something I can control the Mythbuntu box remotely from to play videos stored on the machine. [01:03] I've used google to look up "REMOTE CONTROL" and ... well... most the hits I get are coming up with the universal remote controls, not remotely controling the machine. [01:03] Ideas? [01:04] What type of remote control? [01:05] PC remote control. [01:05] Buy a remote. [01:06] If you are more specific perhaps we can help more. [01:07] Prior to my installing Mythbuntu, I was using VLC and its HTTP interface. It did what I wanted to do, with the exception that the javascript was extremely buggy and prone to getting to the point where I had to reboot. [01:07] MythTV looked good, but when I finally got it setup, all it does is stream from the HTPC to the machine I'm using. [01:07] Whta I want to do is use a remote PC to tell the HTPC to play videos on the TV. [01:08] I can SSH to the machine, and I can use mplayer to start playing the file, and I get the audio, but not video. [01:09] So another question would be how I can redirect the video feed to not use the SSH session but go to the television or the desktop on the HTPC? [01:09] DISPLAY=:0 mplayer foo.bar [01:10] I was JUST typing about display... Alright. I'll try that later. That might be all I need to do. [01:10] MythTV is a full interface, so perhaps not what you want. [01:10] Ponty, to be clear, you want to be able to control the frontend from a web browser? [01:10] is that right? or something else? [01:10] Designed to be used maximised with a remote control. [01:10] You can control it via the telnet interface also, I do that every day. [01:11] tgm> Web browser, telnet, SSH, whatever. Any method to control the front end. [01:11] Ponty, no problemo then [01:11] just a sec [01:11] you can control it via mythweb [01:11] hads> Do you have instructions on how to do that? I was able to get into the telnet session on port 4830 or whatever, but, couldn't figure it out. [01:11] tgm> mythweb != mythtv I hope? [01:12] It's part of mythtv. [01:12] Ponty, http://BACKENDIP/mythweb/remote [01:12] telnet yourhostname 6546; help [01:12] Ponty, you can control the frontend from there [01:12] mythweb uses the telnet interface to control the frontend [01:12] thats correct, it uses the telnet interface to do it [01:12] ... nice. [01:12] That's why I said it :) [01:13] so whichever you are more comfortable with [01:13] The mythweb thing is kinda weird though. [01:14] Via mythweb, when I try to hit a button, it tells me "no front ends have been selected" however, theres only one, and when I click on it, nothing happens. [01:16] Now it just popped up saying "Distro is not responding". [01:17] You need to enable the telnet interface. [01:17] It is running. [01:17] .. well it was. [01:17] Did you enable it in the frontend? [01:18] I was using it last night. [01:18] No changes in the front end for about a month now. [01:19] So you did enable it in the frontend settings then? [01:19] Should be enabled, yes. [01:19] You might want to check, [01:20] Checking [01:24] "Network remote control port" = 6546 [01:24] And "Enable network remote control interface" is enabled. [01:25] Good. Now you can try "telnet $HOSTNAME 6546" [01:27] It just sits there. [01:28] Yesterday it was giving me a # prompt. Today, nadda. [01:28] Then it's not working. [01:28] Close and reopen the frontend. [01:28] The kids are watching a movie right now. If I kill the process, will it kill mplayer? [01:29] Likely. I don't use mplayer myself [01:30] I'll wait till its over then I'll drop it. Even reboot it if necessary. [01:30] It's not. [01:30] Anyway, when you are in the telnet interface, type help, it will show you the commands. [01:30] I saw that, but hadn't figured out how to launch a movie yet. [01:32] stephen@distro:~$ netstat -ao | grep 6546 [01:32] tcp 0 0 *:6546 *:* LISTEN keepalive (0.00/0/0) [01:32] stephen@distro:~$ netstat -ao | grep 6546 [01:32] tcp 0 0 *:6546 *:* LISTEN keepalive (0.00/0/0) [01:32] err. sorry. [01:33] BRB [01:49] Sick kid. *sigh* [02:11] how do I get mythfilldatabase to retrieve channel icons? [02:11] I can't seem to get the right option to send it to do so [02:11] thx [02:12] --do-channel-updates ? [02:15] --update-icon-map ? [02:16] maybe try it? [02:17] so far no go [02:17] --reset-icon-map well see if this is it [02:23] the channel icon download via the mythtv-setup bails out before icons can be downloaded. Then the setup drops to the desktop [02:50] I always look for help when I can never get it [02:50] you'd think there [02:50] thre would be some docs for mythbuntu covering channel icons [02:50] I'm looking for the Mythbuntu 9.04 RC default mysql password [02:51] I have tried blank, but no go [02:51] sorry root password [02:53] look in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt [02:54] mkiconmap.pl does not come with ubuntu's version of mythtv:( [02:55] If you have XMLTV software installed, there is a perl script in MythTV's contrib/ directory which will generate this file for you. Run the command: $ perl mkiconmap.pl [02:57] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/WhatNext/channel_icons [03:15] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=659623 [03:59] MythbuntuGuest41, it's defaulting to your user password [04:00] MythbuntuGuest41, so whatever you picked during installation === croppa_ is now known as croppa [09:46] Has anybody here got SPDIF to work? I can get sound ok in mplayer but nothing in Mythtv when AC3/DTS passthrough is enabled [09:46] Basically I want to use AC3/DTS when available if not available just push normal stereo through the SPDIF port === mthaddon_ is now known as mthaddon [13:59] hi [14:04] hi === wombo1 is now known as wombo === superm1 changed the topic of #ubuntu-mythtv to: Mythbuntu 9.04 released :: Please visit www.mythbuntu.org for more information :: Paste logs @ http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com Please stick around for people to answer your question [14:54] torrents working for anyone? [14:58] ernstp, they should be now [14:58] i'm seeding amd64 at least [14:59] I'm not getting any response from the tracker on my mythbuntu image it seems like [15:00] If my box is x64 capable would it be better to put x64 on it or x32? [15:00] ernstp, amd64 or i386? [15:00] superm1: both actually [15:01] ernstp, that's odd, i do see 3 peers on the amd64 that i'm seeding to [15:01] r3z: I'd go 64-bit [15:01] r3z, agreed w/ ernstp [15:01] superm1: guess the p2p part works, but the tracker is chocked [15:01] ernstp, oh probably because we share a tracker with ubuntu [15:02] and it's got a lot of load [15:08] k [15:09] I didnt know what real benefit for video processing I would get with 64bit. [15:10] all: if there is anyone who admins mythbuntu.org, this page gives a 403: [15:10] http://www.mythbuntu.org/9.04/Release_notes [15:11] bradleee, thanks, fixed [15:11] expect it is access denied [15:12] does it work now? [15:12] nope [15:13] Access denied [15:13] You are not authorized to access this page. [15:13] Please tgm4883, give us the powa [15:13] :) [15:13] hmm [15:14] still 403 [15:14] let me guess in the release notes we need to be careful of some graphics cards [15:14] it is running the latest .21-fixes [15:15] alternate disks are not being made [15:15] improvements in the underlying Ubuntu 9.04 [15:16] Mythexport and a deb for getting the weeklies is available [15:24] bradleee, should be fine now. i think it was a website caching problem [15:24] refresh->200 OK. thanks! [15:27] * r3z is going to swap his old mythdora box over to mythbuntu this weekend [15:27] thats gonna be fun :( [17:06] hi [17:07] what is the standard ubuntu remastering tool? [17:07] (in the changelog from 9.04) [17:12] hello [17:12] MythbuntuGuest64, remastersys maybe? [17:13] don't know, we don't use that [17:15] I am trying to install Mythbuntu from a Live CD. It gets to the Partition window and there is no Hard Disk selectable... If I boot the computer from the bios, I can clearly see the hard drive... I am using a Maxtor 250GB IDE HD with a SATA converter, attached to the SATA bus of a Scaleo E computer. Any ideas? I assume Mythbuntu does not include the drivers for my SATA connector, is there any way to check? Or am I barking up the wrong tree? [17:20] MythbuntuGuest64, it's livecd-rootfs [17:20] MythbuntuGuest64, its actually not a remastering tool, its a mastering tool [17:20] so this is entirely built from scratch [17:22] my IDE / SATA converter is an ABIT SERILLEL 0 [17:41] thx superml [18:46] I am trying to install Mythbuntu from a Live CD. It gets to the Partition window and there is no Hard Disk selectable... If I boot the computer from the bios, I can clearly see the hard drive... I am using a Maxtor 250GB IDE HD with a SATA converter, attached to the SATA bus of a Scaleo E computer. Any ideas? I assume Mythbuntu does not include the drivers for my SATA connector, is there any way to check? Or am I barking up the wrong tree? my I [20:02] Hello all, just installed mythbuntu freshly in a VM to play, and noticed that in primary backend only role, many of the directories are missing in /var/lib/mythtv [20:02] also, mythnettv-gui is broken on first run, it needs some kind of data directory that doesn't exist [20:04] Any of you migrated from Mythdora to mythbuntu? [20:04] * r3z is wondering what a pain in the ass its gonna be. [20:37] r3z: backend, frontend? [20:37] both ;) [20:37] * r3z has an all in one box ;) [20:37] r3z: I'd check your schema version, dump the db, backup your recordings, do a fresh intsall and put everything back on the box [20:38] Ya. That is my plan. [20:38] Where does mythbuntu store data by default? [20:38] r3z: go browse the mythtv wiki, there are pages on backing up and restoring the db [20:38] Ya I know how to do that. [20:39] r3z: /var/lib/mythtv I'm pretty sure [20:39] Currently using /storage with mythdora [20:39] I use /mythtv [20:39] Have a seperate Disk setup for the /storage [20:40] * r3z is mostly worried about recording schedules but also want my old recordings to be able to come over too... [20:40] really doesn't matter where you park them, just gotta make sure the permissions are ok and that you tell mythtv where that is [20:40] Ya, [20:42] * r3z cant remember if the storage volume is LVM or not :( [20:43] r3z: not much of a reason to use LVM anymore, storage groups give you that functionality [20:43] Ya [20:43] then you don't need to deal with LVM headaches either [20:43] THis was built off of an old fedora build with mythdora [20:44] Ya its LVM. [20:44] Wonder if I can get that to preserve. [20:44] Easily that is. [20:45] r3z: copy them to another box and format it down, if you have the space [20:45] might be a good time for spring cleaning as well [20:45] Probably will have to do that. [20:45] Will need to run a network cable over to it and only have a 100mbit switch :( [20:59] Trimmed down now. [21:00] only using 100 gig ;) [21:00] Still gonna take a while to transfer :( [21:00] * r3z thinks he might just get his wife's external HD and hook it up. [21:00] Might be faster lol [21:00] r3z: a good external HD is a savior for these kind of jobs [21:01] Ya. [21:01] Tha is what I will do ;) [21:01] I might just delete everything and start fresh -thedatabase [21:02] Recording schedules is all I REALLY care about. [21:02] r3z: do a db dump first, just incase [21:02] always good to have around [21:02] I am going to. [21:02] also you can pull specific tables if you want [21:02] Ya. [21:03] Prolly pull the whole thing to get all the old programs and stuff and not cherry pick. [21:03] Gonna do it tomorrow night I think. [21:04] make it a weekend project [21:04] I will start it tomorrow night. [21:04] Nothing records saturday :) [21:04] nothing sucks more than when you are up till 4am so you don't miss the wife's soap opera the next day [21:05] Hah [21:05] wife doesnt watch soaps thank god. [21:05] We pretty much only record stuff we both watch [21:05] Usually dont have time to watch tv by myself heh [21:05] thats actually how I started my mythnetwork, used recording that as a reason to buy toys [21:06] * r3z is probably gonna set up a few laptops I have as frontends ;) [21:06] My ubuntu laptop I use is gonna be a frontend in case I wanna watch something in bed ;) [21:07] Eventually I will buy an HD card and put in it. [21:07] For now I just have my PVR500 [21:08] Which works fabulously btw ;) [21:08] in case noone knew that card rocks hah [21:11] r3z: when you shop for a HD tunner, I hightly recommend the HDHR [21:11] as do many of the other devs [21:12] * r3z has not set one of those up before [21:42] Hey All, getting ready to install mythbuntu 9.04 for first time (switching from knoppmyth). Anything to look out for that people have been having probs with? [21:48] * r3z hasnt seen anyone complaining too much today ;) [22:27] I'm not sure if this is the right forum to ask, but I'm starting to get desperate, so any pointers would be appreciated [22:27] uniscript, diversify your portfolio [22:27] I'm in the US for a week and want to buy a USB video capture device for sub $100 that works for linux [22:27] I can't seem to synchronise the lists of supported devices with shops [22:28] can anyone help? [22:28] tgm4883: I'm trying to spend what's left of my portfolio :) [22:28] are you looking for a device that works in linux in general, or that is well supported in mythtv? [22:29] linux in general for video capture, but I thought mythtv folk might be in the know [22:29] and I assume if it works for mythtv it'll work for linux in general [22:30] I have an hvr-950 that works pretty well, IIRC, I just had to load the firmware [22:30] btw the device could well end up in a jungle somewhere [22:30] and where did you get it? [22:30] I got mine at circuit city, but IIRC, best buy has them too [22:31] theres also the pinnicle hdtv pro stick I think [22:31] so this would plug and play or would I need to hunt down some firmware [22:31] the pinnacle is known to work? [22:31] you would need to find the firmware [22:31] sec [22:31] (and yes I need PAL too) [22:31] (wouldn't want to make the hunt too easy :)) [22:32] well, you aren't going to find a PAL stick in a store in the US [22:33] well both then [22:34] * tgm4883 shrugs [22:34] what device does both [22:34] heres the data on the 950 http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_WinTV_HVR-950 [22:34] I don't know if it does pal, although i'm not sure that even matters, you just need to capture the signal [22:34] so you probably need a dvb-t card [22:35] (or -s -c) [22:35] yeah [22:43] it's so hard, wail [23:25] Hello. Trying to partition my drive correctly. Can someone verify this: / (OS) , SWAP and data should go to /usr/local? [23:26] Converting from knoppmyth, and they had sep. partition for data, I assume it s/b /usr/local in mytbuntu? [23:26] Huh? [23:27] /usr/local isn't typically used - unless you want to of course. [23:28] I have 3 partitions already. hda1 which s/b OS right? and then Swap, and then recordings normally go into /hda3 which I map to /usr/local? [23:28] s/b? [23:28] s/b = should be -- sorry [23:28] Ahh :) [23:28] I believe mythbuntu puts recordings under /var by default. [23:29] ok, so I should be ok by setting install for partion hda3 (data from knoppmyth) to /var? and then hda1 is / (for OS) [23:29] will that work? [23:29] hda1 etc. don't nessecarily map to anything in particular as they could be different on each system. [23:29] Ubuntu uses scsi names for disks these days too, so sda etc. [23:30] I guess my first partion I mean, where my knoppmyth OS used to be, I would map that on the partioner to /? [23:30] And no, you shouln't just set your hda3 partition to /var [23:30] Are you sating that you're trying to install over the top of an old install. Doesn't sound like a good idea. [23:30] s/sating/saying/ [23:31] Yes, I would like to reformat partion 1, which is where knoppmyth used to be. And my recordings were on a diff. partion [23:31] Ok then exclude your recordings partition from the install and set it up later. [23:31] I guess I can install everything to partion 1 and then symlink /var (or wherever the datafiles are held) to the right partion? [23:32] "under /var" means somewhere in that tree by the way, not just directly in /var which is used for all sorts of things. [23:32] right. [23:33] ok. thanks for your help. I'll do that. [23:33] I might be back, tried 8.10 awhile ago and couldn't get my serial irblaster going, hopefully it will work this time. [23:33] thanks again... [23:39] i'm running an M3N78-VM motherboard with onboard HDMI, the video works flawlessly, but for the life of me i cannot get it to play audio through the HDMI, does anyone have any idea's what the problem could be? [23:42] Can I make like a tivo with mythbuntu? I got an old pc with a PCI tv card i can use. I want to be able to schedule and record programs. [23:43] I plan to put the pc next to the tv and use it as a dvr. Would I be able to mythbuntu for this? [23:43] yes, that is what it was designed for :) [23:43] I can't help you with the hdmi stuff though [23:44] but i will be able to see the tv listing for my area (USA) [23:44] yes, you will need to sign up with schedules direct [23:44] cost $ ? [23:45] $20/year http://www.schedulesdirect.org/ [23:45] You may want to do a little checking to make sure your PCI Tv card will work, most will [23:46] How do i display the recording back unto the tv? Do i need a video card that has a tv-out [23:46] how do i untar a file? [23:46] yes, I use an old nvidia that has s-video (and others) out. [23:46] i have a Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 [23:46] That is what I have, that will work great [23:47] does the remote control work? [23:47] yes [23:47] so you do not need to use the mouse to move around? [23:47] will you be getting the TV from a cable or satellite box? [23:47] cable [23:47] No you dont need a mouse, unless you install something like firefox [23:48] You will need to get an "irblaster" to change the channels on your cablebox, or you'll have to do that manually. [23:48] Some cable boxes have the firewire ports open and can use that to change channels. [23:49] do mythtv does not changes to the schedule channel [23:49] DisabledDuck - Does that tar file end with .tar or .tar.gz or .tgz? [23:49] .tar [23:49] so mythtv does not changes to the schedule channel? [23:50] tar -xvvf myfile.tar In the above example command the system would uncompress (untar) the myfile.tar file in the current directory. [23:50] bicchi - even the tivo (standalone one) needs to have an irblaster to change the channels on the cable box. [23:50] but i do not need a cable box to change channels. [23:50] i have cable tv but it is direct. [23:50] you should be fine then [23:51] one day i plan to ugrade to digital cable. will there be issues with it? it does require a cable box. [23:51] yes you will need an irblaster if you use a cable or satellite box. But mine was only like $12 [23:52] However, some cable boxes enable the firewire port, which you can use. I dont know much about that though [23:52] ok [23:52] do i need to configure the remote control or does it work by default on linux [23:53] when you install mythbunt, one of the screens will ask what remote you have. Select "Hauppauge TV Card" thats about it [23:53] You can modify the buttons if you want - later that is. [23:54] Try it and find out [23:54] hads: i will. just trying to find as much info before i proceed. [23:54] Yeah it is very fun project. You can install it and forget it or "Tinker" to your hearts content :) [23:55] It is a great way to learn linux too [23:55] well that i know already. [23:56] any other tips you can give me with that card. problems/issues/fall backs? [23:56] Just make sure that the PC is fairly quiet if you are going to put it next to the TV. Wives dont like loud PC's in the living room :) [23:56] true [23:56] i might get me a fanless machine or one with 120mm fan [23:56] That PVR-250 works right out of the box. I've been running 2 of them [23:57] so if you get 2 you get to record 2 schedules at the same time? [23:57] yes [23:57] nice [23:58] well, thanks for your help [23:59] np