[00:52] <le1> Hey guys
[00:53]  * le1 action
[06:39] <ara> good morning all :)
[06:53] <thekorn> good morning ara
[06:54] <ara> good morning thekorn
[06:56] <liw> how's it going? are we releasing today?
[07:03] <ara> liw: hopefully :-)
[07:04] <ara> liw: the release team is shaping up the release notes and the latest packages are being accepted (or rejected) into universe
[07:04] <ara> liw: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes
[08:16] <davmor2> Morning All
[08:34] <ara> hey davmor2
[09:44] <BUGabundo> hi everyone
[09:50] <ara> hey BUGabundo
[09:51] <BUGabundo> ara: hey, back
[09:51] <BUGabundo> this is quiet here! all tests done?
[09:54] <davmor2> BUGabundo: Finished Yesterday
[09:55] <ara> BUGabundo: yes, everything is frozen now
[09:55] <BUGabundo> okay nice to know everything went smooth
[09:55] <BUGabundo> kinda reminds me of that kernel bug a few releases back
[09:56] <BUGabundo> where everyone was working on it until release
[09:56] <BUGabundo> ppl are going crazy on +1 and release-party
[09:56] <BUGabundo> eheh
[09:56] <davmor2> BUGabundo: they always do :)
[09:57] <BUGabundo> ehehe true
[09:57] <davmor2> Morning Heno
[09:58] <heno> hey davmor2
[10:04]  * schwuk loves the easy configuration of mobile broadband connections in Jaunty :)
[10:05] <BUGabundo> schwuk: it helps. but NM 0.8 will bring modem manager, which is supposed to be even better
[10:05] <BUGabundo> but according to asac thats going to take at least another year
[10:06] <schwuk> BUGabundo: I'm happy with this - necognised and configured my old N95 without a hitch, and now I'm happily typing from the train :)
[10:07] <asac> schwuk: take care .... you will become even more addicted ;)
[10:08] <asac> 24/7 internet without any way to escape ;)
[10:09] <schwuk> asac: actually, now I feel complete - I already had 24/7 access from my iPhone, it's just nice having a real keyboard!
[10:09] <asac> schwuk: yeah. but phone is still different from a real hackbox ;)
[10:10] <asac> at least on a train you will bump into GPRS at some point ... which is similar to being offline ;)
[10:11] <BUGabundo> asac: i get that while being at home
[10:11] <BUGabundo> lo
[10:11] <BUGabundo> lol
[10:11] <BUGabundo> GPRS is sooooo bad
[10:11] <BUGabundo> good enough for irc though
[10:13] <schwuk> asac: yep, on both counts. I've been considering a G1 as a hackable phone, but I'm waiting to see what they do with the pre.
[10:16] <asac> BUGabundo: you should move to a real metropolitan area ;)
[10:16] <BUGabundo> ohhh thats low
[10:17] <BUGabundo> i live 10km from the 2nd biggest city in PT
[10:17] <slangasek> so you're stuck with Telefonica?
[10:18] <BUGabundo> slangasek: we dont have Telefonica here! thats our neibours country. ;) duh
[10:19] <slangasek> hmm?  I thought it was Telefonica in .pt as well, last time I was there
[10:19] <BUGabundo> we have PTCom, Optimus, Vodafone, Zon, etc
[10:19] <BUGabundo> telefonica? no. u are mistaken slangasek
[10:19] <BUGabundo> maybe in roaming?
[10:20] <slangasek> no, this was back when everybody carried pagers around :)
[10:22] <BUGabundo> AFAIK "they" never operated here, and i tend to know this stuff
[10:28] <schwuk> asac: you forget that I'm in the North of England where GPRS is the norm - I'm looking forward to hitting civilisation soon.
[11:50] <davmor2> Hello
[11:50]  * slangasek wavse
[11:51] <davmor2> I'm on the train for London so I can once again confirm that 3g works :)
[11:52] <fader_> davmor2: How come you're not over in #ubuntu-release-party helping to ask if it's out yet? ;)
[11:53] <davmor2> I don't want the release delayed by 2 hours each time I ask :D
[11:53] <davmor2> goning there next :)
[11:53] <davmor2> going even
[12:04] <mvo> davmor2: going to the release party :) ?
[12:28] <asac> mvo: are you positive that the final cds have -security?
[12:28] <asac> ;)
[12:29] <slangasek> hrm?
[12:29] <asac> 13:16 < asac> 13:11 < gnomefreak> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/644059 is from clean install around Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:47:46 -0400
[12:29] <asac> 13:16 < asac> 13:11  * gnomefreak doesnt see security in there
[12:30] <asac> i really hope thats not a problem still ... or gnomefreak was confused ... just would like to be sure
[12:30] <slangasek> updates is also absent
[12:31] <asac> yes
[12:31] <slangasek> that's... not good
[12:31] <mvo> I'm running a kvm install now, I asked him and he said his image was from ~11. April
[12:31] <mvo> (desktop install)
[12:31] <slangasek> were there relevant changes made since then?
[12:31] <mvo> it might be something releaeted to having network (or not) too
[12:32] <asac> isnt anyone here in testing who has a fresh install so we at least know that security is in there ;)?
[12:32] <mvo> I just have upgraded images :)
[12:32] <asac> heno: ^^
[12:35] <mvo> asac: looks good here, I can try without network afterwards
[12:36] <thekorn> i've made a fresh install a few minutes ago, and I've both, jaunty-security and jaunty-updates enbaled
[12:38] <ara> thekorn: I have a kubuntu install from yesterday and I also have the jaunty-security updates enabled
[12:39] <asac> sounds good ;)
[12:39] <mvo> asac: yep, have it too
[12:39] <mvo> *puhh*
[12:39] <asac> mvo: even without networking?
[12:39] <mvo> asac: trying that now
[12:56] <mvo> asac: without network too
[12:56] <asac> great
[12:56] <asac> mvo: do we need to test apr 11 or so to check? or just ignore?
[12:57] <cjwatson> the installation I've just done from a USB stick has -security and -updates
[12:57] <cjwatson> it's possible it broke due to some kind of transient network problem (although the installer shouldn't have that flaw any more...)
[12:57] <asac> cjwatson: you know whether you changed anything in this regards since apr 11
[12:57] <asac> ok.
[12:57] <cjwatson> no, I didn't
[12:57] <cjwatson> as in I can be pretty certain that the installer didn't change in this area since then
[12:58] <cjwatson> so it sounds like a bug if it's reproducible but I don't think it's across the board
[13:08] <mvo> I was not able to reproduce it without network
[13:08] <mvo> would asking gnomefreak for the log help?
[13:11] <asac> which log would show something valuable?
[14:04] <mvo> I enabled the proposed version of update-manager, so if someone feels like SRU verification for u-m (*hint*) that would be much appreciated. a intrepid image and "update-manager --proposed" is all that is needed :)
[14:28] <jtholmes> charlie-tca, have you ever seen the likes of the excitement on the party channel
[14:29] <slangasek> sure, 6 months ago? :)
[14:29] <jtholmes> ah yes, every 6 mos
[14:29] <jtholmes> nice job steve
[14:30] <jtholmes> slangasek, you didnt get much sleep the last few days :)
[14:30] <charlie-tca> no, I ain't going
[14:31] <jtholmes> charlie-tca, question after open week when do we start testing again
[14:31] <slangasek> pff, sleep is for the weak
[14:31]  * slangasek faints from exhauston
[14:31]  * mvo sends slangasek a cup of fine japanese tea
[14:31] <jtholmes> slangasek, i loved that  tap tap business
[14:31] <slangasek> I suspect it's unoriginal
[14:32] <slangasek> as in, I probably did the exact same thing 6 months ago in a similarly sleep-deprived state. ;)
[14:32] <charlie-tca> Not sure. I won't have an image until the alpha2
[14:32] <jtholmes> maybe so but it got the channel attention
[14:32] <jtholmes> charlie-tca, ok just wondered
[14:33] <charlie-tca> Hang in here, and check with davmor2.
[14:33] <slangasek> jtholmes: actually, me setting the channel +m got the channel's attention. ;)
[14:33] <jtholmes> charlie-tca, havent been in early on other rels,  will the images start on  cdimage as always
[14:34] <charlie-tca> yes. Should be just change jaunty to karmic
[14:34] <jtholmes> charlie-tca, thx
[14:35] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[14:35] <jtholmes> slangasek, i never saw such a giddy bunch in my life on the party channel
[14:36] <slangasek> I think the channel attracts the giddily-predisposed, by its nature
[16:24] <jtholmes> bug 357884
[16:24] <ubot4> jtholmes: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: HTTP Error 503: Service Temporarily Unavailable