| bryce | jbarnes: is the gpu dumping stuff particular to 9xx? is it at all worth trying for 8xx freeze bugs? | 00:36 |
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| jbarnes | so far it just decodes 9xx stuff mainly | 00:40 |
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| seb128 | bryce_: did you try to trigger the intel crash with a virtual config? | 11:44 |
| seb128 | there has been 2 new comments from users who don't have the issue and have virtual settings today | 11:45 |
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| hyperair | is there a reason i965 has been blacklisted in jaunty? | 18:58 |
| hyperair | i commented out the line in the compiz loading script and it seems to run fine | 18:59 |
| mnemo | hyperair: if you do "aptitude changlog compiz" maybe there is a comment about the reason on that change? | 19:00 |
| hyperair | mnemo: i'll poke it later when i'm back in jaunty. | 19:01 |
| hyperair | the installer hung on me. | 19:01 |
| hyperair | bah | 19:01 |
| mnemo | ;( | 19:01 |
| hyperair | well then | 19:01 |
| hyperair | off i go | 19:01 |
| hyperair | with another attempt with the usb startup thing | 19:01 |
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| jbarnes | apw: get a chance to put together those mchbar patches yet? | 19:21 |
| bryce | http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/drivers.svg | 19:47 |
| jcastro | bryce: that is ouchy | 19:51 |
| bryce | jcastro: yeah | 19:56 |
| paran | but that is a nice graph.. I didn't know gnuplot could output SVG :) | 20:04 |
| jbarnes_ | bryce: those trends are pretty scary... all of the used drivers have positive slopes | 20:45 |
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| bryce | jbarnes: yep | 20:47 |
| bryce | well, except for -nv and -openchrome | 20:48 |
| jbarnes | yeah that's why I qualified it with "used" :) | 20:48 |
| bryce | heh | 20:48 |
| jbarnes | we're clearly in the worst shape though... and only partly because there are so many intel chips out there | 20:48 |
| bryce | -ati at least has fewer bugs now than it did at the start of the period | 20:49 |
| jbarnes | yeah that's nice | 20:49 |
| jbarnes | I wonder how many ati bug reports are supressed when people just move to the proprietary driver though | 20:50 |
| bryce | actually for jaunty, we've seen the reverse situation | 20:50 |
| jbarnes | if they find a bug in fglrx I wonder if they report it directly to ati or just live with it too | 20:50 |
| jbarnes | oh really? | 20:50 |
| bryce | -fglrx was not available for the longest time, so people were using -ati, and then when we finally did get it, they dropped support for all pre-R6xx chips | 20:51 |
| jbarnes | oh right | 20:51 |
| bryce | so this cycle a LOT of people have been forced to shift to -ati. | 20:51 |
| bryce | also the functionality gap between -ati and -fglrx is a lot narrower than between -nv and -nvidia | 20:52 |
| jbarnes | yeah | 20:52 |
| bryce | I've given up on -nv pretty much. I think in karmic we're going to switch to -nouveau like fedora has | 20:52 |
| jbarnes | yeah might be in ok shape by then... the fedora guys have been putting a ton of work into it | 20:53 |
| bryce | with -intel, I'm a bit concerned in that with the EXA -> UXA transition, is upstream going to care any longer about bugs when using EXA? If not, what do we do with all these existing bug reports? wontfix them? | 20:54 |
| bryce | I guess, once we have new -intel bits in place, we'll ask people to retest against that, and close the bugs if they can't reproduced there | 20:55 |
| jbarnes | yeah that's one option | 20:57 |
| jbarnes | we'll continue to do 2.7.x releases though | 20:57 |
| jbarnes | which means asking users to try uxa might become more viable over time with juanty, since the driver has it and it should get more usable over the 2.7.x period | 20:58 |
| bryce | that's good to hear | 21:01 |
| bryce | I'd like in karmic to retain the option of switching back to exa for users who have trouble with uxa | 21:01 |
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