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iceroot!pt | jv_00:00
ubottujv_: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.00:00
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gartral1jewome62: ubuntu is ussually released around 23:00 UTC00:00
EoL{s}Can somebody answer a question I have about the Ubuntu 8.10 installer?00:01
jv_iceroot: I know that, tx..wondering if there was anyone close to my area...00:01
gartral1(least, according to my math >.>)00:01
ttylta00:01
MaT-dgI have a discussion on this: does 'opensource' mean that the dev's on ubuntu 9.10 have to be 'open' about the new theme('s) or can they hide the state of development until the release?00:01
icerootEoL{s}: #ubuntu+100:01
madomusikgoat|main, was bedeutet dein befehl auf deutsch?00:02
icerootEoL{s}: ah sorry, get it wrong, just ask the question00:02
musikgoat|mainmado, english please,  the line was a for loop running that command the number of times in the seq (sequence)00:02
madomusikgoat|main, i wrote in english but you didn't answer ... so i tried german ... because "musik" is the german word for "music" isn't it? :)00:03
musikgoat|mainyes00:03
EoL{s}iceroot: I have two hard drives, if I erase the partition on one, can I create the appropriate partitions for ubuntu during the installation?00:03
Lord_DeviMaT-dg: As far as I understand every package has it's own dev mailing list one can subscribe to if they want to...00:03
n_nmwhen can we get 9.0400:04
icerootEoL{s}: yes00:04
icerootn_nm: today (23.04)00:04
musikgoat|mainmado: but i'm not german, at least not fully, and I'm not fluent in german :-)00:04
musikgoat|mainmado: but thats neither here nor there00:04
madomusikgoat|main, ok :)00:05
MaT-dgLord_Devi: I mean for example: blogging on a public blog with screenshots that show how the new theme and icons wil look like00:05
musikgoat|mainmado: i would be careful giving a boss that script though, because then they will expect that you are familiar with bash scripting, and expect more than you can provide ;-)00:06
madomusikgoat|main, :)00:06
n_nmi need help enemy territory00:06
Lord_DeviMaT-dg: I don't think you'll find anything like that. There might be some sort of svn or git available though.00:06
Seframare there any download links for Ubuntu 9.04?00:07
madowell ... i won't give my boss the command ... but i will tell her / him ... that i have one to make sure that all the files are completely removed ... but erm musikgoat|main  ...00:07
musikgoat|mainmado: otherwise, you can start reading the advanced bash scripting guide for learning some cool tricks with bash00:07
madois there a way to try to recover the files?00:07
MaT-dgLord_Devi: as far as I know they keep it well hidden until the final release (maybe RC) so no git or svn00:08
madowell musikgoat|main ... i'd like to do so ... but i guess i have to learn more basics first :) ... ... erm ... could you suggest me some things i should read ?00:08
musikgoat|mainmado: once the bits have been written over, its not feasible to be able to recover the files,  there have been studies that say that it is still possible, but those have been debunked00:08
musikgoat|main!absg00:08
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about absg00:08
musikgoat|main!abs00:09
ubottuAdvanced Bash-Scripting Guide, obtainable with ${package-manager} install abs-guide, is a quick and comprehensive guide to bash (command line) scripting in *nix systems. It is also viewable via web at http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/00:09
blip-ooh boon200:09
armagheddonsgwok i have issues with pidgin00:09
armagheddonsgwits crashing after a certain length of time with msn enabled00:09
Psi-JackHeh, I see what it means by fakeraid now, basically expensive tasks, the raid "hardware" still uses the CPU to do expensive operations. Oi.00:09
madomusikgoat|main, i'm asking because i want to write the "recover"-command too so that they can see that there's not really a way ... i just want to be on the safe side :)00:10
RantingHumanarmagheddonsgw, do you perchance use any music-I'm-listening-to plugin with pidgin?00:10
musikgoat|maini'm not sure what you mean by a recover comand,  i'm not sure one exists00:10
armagheddonsgwno00:10
armagheddonsgwhave done nothing but download the updates ubuntu suggested00:11
madouhuu ... i see ... so ... *thinking* musikgoat|main ...00:11
lucaxwhats wrong with intel gma and jaunty rc??00:11
RantingHumanhm, maybe someone else knows, then00:11
armagheddonsgwalso XP32 is refusing to boot00:11
musikgoat|mainheh, thats like saying,  hmm, this cheese smells funny, and oh yeah, the building is burning down :-)00:12
Pici!jaunty00:12
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party00:12
madoso ok then ... for only one round -> sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy <- ---- and what if i want to to run it more than once ... for example ... twice ... then i will write ,,, for 2 in `seq 1 10`;do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy; done ?? musikgoat|main ?00:13
armagheddonsgwgot issues with windows: it wont boot since installing ubuntu, and unlike last time, ubuntu is the primary bootloader00:13
musikgoat|mainmado,  you could simply do:  sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy && sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy00:13
musikgoat|mainmado: but no, your logic was a bit wrong00:13
gm|lapguys, i'm not sure if you're to blame for typos in USB, but:00:13
gm|lapBus 004 Device 002: ID 0bda:0158 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Mass Stroage Device00:13
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madouhuu ... ok musikgoat|main :)00:14
madothank you so far musikgoat|main :)00:14
musikgoat|mainmado: for x in `seq 1 2`;do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy; done00:14
musikgoat|mainmado: but then the for loop is overkill00:14
armagheddonsgwanyone able to help me with the windows thingy?00:14
FrozenFireWhat's the most common open-source Ubuntu PDF reader that can be utilized by FireFox for in-browser PDF viewing?00:14
madofor x in `seq 1 10`;do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy; done ... ... would be ten times? musikgoat|main ?00:14
madooh! musikgoat|main00:15
musikgoat|mainyes mado,  try this:  for x in `seq 1 10`;do echo $x; done00:15
FrozenFirearmagheddonsgw: Installing Ubuntu on a secondary partition, or from Wubi?00:15
armagheddonsgwwubi?00:15
armagheddonsgwbut yes, i think00:15
Lord_DeviMaT-dg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Human%20Skin  I found a place with some beta images for Karmic Koala..00:15
mrNotYouHey00:15
FrozenFireWubi installs Ubuntu within Windows, as "an application"00:15
Lord_DeviMaT-dg: but yeah you're right, there isn't much in that regards, that's for sure.00:16
madouuh! musikgoat|main00:16
mrNotYouIt's 23rd April and Jaunty still not available on stable. Whats going on..?:S00:16
armagheddonsgwah. i installed it from the ubuntu disk00:16
musikgoat|main!outyet | mrNotYou00:16
ubottumrNotYou: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+100:16
FrozenFirearmagheddonsgw: Are you absolutely sure you didn't install Ubuntu over top of Windows, destroying the Windows partition?00:16
madomrNotYou, what is the time in you time-zone ?00:16
Lord_DeviMaT-dg: I read a quote where Mark says they might be looking into colours OTHER than brown for 9.10! wow...00:16
armagheddonsgw100% sure00:16
CaneToadI find that when printing, some document print fine, but others somehow get their status changed to "Held".  There's no report of any error, but such documents are not printing.  What does "Held" mean?00:16
mrNotYoumado: +200:17
armagheddonsgwthe boot program crashes for windows00:17
noodly-appendagemrNotYou: where do yo live?00:17
armagheddonsgwit does load though00:17
MaT-dgLord_Devi: thx for link, but I don't think that that is the new 'ultimate' theme for 9.1000:17
FrozenFirearmagheddonsgw: I'm not sure Windows likes GRUB without some hacking00:17
burvowskihi everyone, i just installed ubuntu on my laptop, and the graphics are kind of jittery....how do i go about updating drivers?00:17
mrNotYounoodly-appendage: My time zone is +2. it's now 2:17 so even centrally, it shlould be 23rd..00:17
maxriskfactorany idea at what time Jaunty would be out? Its still showing RC availability on the page00:18
Lord_DeviMaT-dg: haha, yeah.. Good lord better not be. hah. It's more than I expected to find though.00:18
noodly-appendageWhere is +2?  Alaska?00:18
MaT-dgLord_Devi: Indeed, apperantly they hired some real designers and are going to do a total overhaul (high hopes for new ubercool theme ^^)00:18
musikgoat|mainmrNotYou: historically, the releases have never come out at midnight UTC,  i would assume it wont come out till afternoon UTC00:18
armagheddonsgwgrrrr damnit! pidgin crashed again00:18
mrNotYounoodly-appendage: lol no;p athens.00:18
hadismine is+8 so it's 07:18...00:18
Lord_DeviMaT-dg: I'm obsessed with eye candy myself. I hear ya.00:18
CaneToadanyone know how to diagnose a "Held" CUPS print job that hasn't printed?00:18
Ned2I don't think it's 23rd yet anywhere in the U.S.00:18
armagheddonsgwwhat were you saying whoever it was who was helping?00:18
madouhuu00:19
mrNotYouNed2: It is though 12:20 in GMT00:19
Ned2it's still 22nd 1:19pm where I am00:19
maxriskfactorthe time is 23rd UTC?00:19
Lord_Deviarmagheddonsgw: Pidgin is a PoS. I'm so happy to be using Kopete again myself.00:19
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adamyIt's already 6am GMT+7 Hahaha00:19
Lord_Deviarmagheddonsgw: A man's Im client.00:19
FrozenFirearmagheddonsgw: I was saying that Windows doesn't like GRUB without some hacking, if I recall correctly.00:19
noodly-appendagemrNotYou: if 23:59 rolls around and still no ubuntu, then there would be a problem but it'll come soon enough00:19
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mrNotYounoodly-appendage: Oh ok.00:20
mrNotYouBtw, any of you people know some major changes that will be from 8.10 to jaunty?00:20
Ned2mrNotYou, what states?00:20
armagheddonsgwballocks. ok how do i fix it?00:20
MiloI installed 8.10 and now no matter what I do i have a blank screen (monitor has no signal). tried to install from winxp..can someone give me a little guidance?00:20
noodly-appendagemrNotYou: if you download the rc, you can probably update via apt once it comes ou t00:20
MaT-dgLord_Devi: well, I like it the way it is now (unity theme and compiz eyecandy), but lot's of people don't like the brown and don't know how to tweak00:20
FrozenFirearmagheddonsgw: I have never had to do it, as I don't use Windows, but http://blog.firetree.net/2005/08/26/duel-boot-windows-with-grub/00:20
armagheddonsgwok ty00:21
mrNotYounoodly-appendage: Nah, im interested in burning the stable on disc cause I wanna install it on another computer too so yahh..00:21
WS|ThermalNoodly's right though.00:21
vern_i just converted my ext3 filesystem to ext4, the release notes tell me to run grub-install after. what parameters do I give grub-install? Ubuntu is installed in /dev/sda3 while the first partitions are used for windows. much thanks for any answer i can get!00:21
alcaneis there a way to save text from links2?00:21
WS|ThermalI installed 8.04 when it was in RC and it auto-updated to release later.00:21
noodly-appendageat least internet connections are fast enough so downloading 1 cd's worth of data doesn't take a week anymore :)00:21
gene420any xen experts??00:21
MaT-dgMaT-dg: And I like eyecandy, but at the same time it has to be clean and simple (not bloated like live messenger for example)00:22
WS|ThermalVern_: Unless you set /boot/ to be a different partition00:22
mrNotYounoodly-appendage: lol;p here prices are extreme though so im only on 2mbps;/00:22
Lord_DeviMaT-dg: just switched back to KDE 4.2(Finally stable! Finally usable!) a couple days ago. It feels SO great to be back in an environment I can really control and alter to my liking. So much more functionality AND eye candy than gnome...00:22
WS|ThermalGRUB should be installed/stored on your Ubuntu partition.00:22
mrNotYounoodly-appendage: took about an hour or two to download last version;p not that tragic;p00:22
WS|ThermalVern_: What parameters is it asking for?00:22
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Lord_DeviMaT-dg: Hehe.. yeah, well clean and simple went out with window managers. Now we have 'environments'. I like it though... handy for the lazy.00:23
hadisWe can update 9.04 online from 8.10 ,yes??00:23
Lord_Devihadis: Just run 'update-manager -d' from within 8.1000:23
mrNotYouhadis: yeap00:23
Lord_Devi(while in gnome)00:23
WS|ThermalHadis: I wouldn't recommend it.00:24
musikgoat|mainhadis: yes,  run update-manager -d00:24
armagheddonsgwunfortunately the link is not helpful. i cant edit the necessary file for some stupid reason00:24
vern_hmm grub-install /dev/sda3 seems to work and my laptop now boots up correctly, i was just making sure because doing the exact same steps previously made my system unbootable00:24
WS|ThermalYou can definitely do it; but upgrades are sometimes risky.00:24
vern_thanks thermal00:24
musikgoat|mainWS|Thermal: why not?00:24
WS|ThermalVern_: Download and burn Super Grub Disk.00:24
WS|ThermalYou can use that to restore a FUBAR'd GRUB if you need to.00:24
vern_good tip, thanks00:25
WS|ThermalMusikgoat|main: <WS|Thermal> You can definitely do it; but upgrades are sometimes risky.00:25
Lord_Devivern_: he meant to add "if you can make sense of it" ;)00:25
WS|ThermalI've had my install broken going from 6.06 to 6.10 beyond repair; and a number of other releases too. Its probably much smoother and more likely to succeed now, but a clean install seems to be the way to go.00:25
Ned2what if I just back everything up first? is that still risky?00:25
WS|ThermalLord_Devi: I did actually mean to add that. Silly me.00:26
armagheddonsgwok, how can i restore my comp to its previous state? i.e. before installing ubuntu?00:26
musikgoat|mainWS|Thermal: i'll give you that00:26
WS|ThermalVern_: You're welcome.00:26
* Lord_Devi grins00:26
MaT-dgmusikgoat|main: hadis: It can be risky sometimes (7.10 to 8.04 no problems, but 8.04 to 8.10 failed here and had to do clean install anyway) AND you miss the new filesystem EXT400:26
WS|Thermalmusikgoat|main: I'm being paranoid, yes, but I just wanted to let him know that there are risks. Usually it works fine.00:26
musikgoat|mainMaT-dg: you don't miss it if you don't want it ;-)00:26
frooschMaT-dg: is that the *buggy* e4 or something else?00:26
MaT-dghadis: so whatever you do, ALWAYS make sure u have a backup of your important data00:27
musikgoat|mainfroosch: the major, i'm going to eat all you data bits for lunch, bug is fixed00:27
WS|ThermalMaT-dg: Does the conversion not work?00:27
MaT-dgmusikgoat|main: why wouldn't u want it? It promises to be much faster00:27
* Lord_Devi appears in a devil suit beside hadis, Don't bother! Backups take so much time. Wouldn't you rather be gaming?00:27
ActionParsnipyo yo yo00:27
WS|Thermalmusikgoat|main: BtrFS looks promising :)00:27
blerk12:30am BST, time to release 9.04 yet? :p00:27
musikgoat|mainWS|Thermal: agreed00:27
WS|Thermalmusikgoat|main: very excited about ext4 though.00:27
kluhas 9.04 CD image been released?00:27
MaT-dgfroosch: they said it will be stable in the final release (solved some bug in the RC)00:28
Lord_DeviYay BtrFS! The ZFS killer!00:28
mrNotYou!outyet00:28
ubottuJaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+100:28
WS|Thermalklu: still in RC, but you can upgrade from the RC to the final release easily.00:28
IcefyreIS ext4 going to be much faster than ext3?00:28
ActionParsnipmrNotYou: nice factoid00:28
IcefyreI heard there are issues with data not being written in time00:28
WS|ThermalIcefyre: Early benchmarks indicate a HUGE boost.00:28
WS|ThermalBut only in some areas.00:28
kluWS|Thermal, I heard it has been distributed to some server00:28
ActionParsnipIcefyre: ive heard it is faster but is a bit flakey right now00:28
musikgoat|mainklu: lies00:28
kluJUst don't know the url00:28
Icefyreso it isn't as stable for hard reboots00:28
digitaloktaybut i have freezez with ext400:28
Icefyrecool00:28
WS|Thermalklu: Official releases are the best way to go... if its been "leaked" its fake.00:28
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klui c00:28
kluthx guys00:29
Icefyreanyone try the RC?00:29
WS|Thermalklu: Canonical doesn't leak intentionally; unlike Microsoft :P00:29
mrNotYouSTABLE IS OUT ON FTP:p00:29
klucan't wait :)00:29
IcefyreI heard it has killer themes00:29
WS|ThermalmrNotYou: Whaa?00:29
ActionParsnipmrNotYou: just install beta then upgrade to stable00:29
tuxFanits jaunty out?00:29
ActionParsnipIcefyre: depends on DE00:29
ActionParsnip!jaunty00:29
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party00:29
IcefyreI think tomorrow it comes out00:29
WS|Thermalunstable ubuntu is more stable than stable windows tbh00:29
randomusrhi, I'm trying to use an OS X theme by creating a link, how is this accomplished?00:29
musikgoat|mainhi ActionParsnip00:29
Icefyredepends on DE?00:29
ActionParsniphi musikgoat|main00:29
Icefyrewhat's a DE?00:30
WS|ThermalDeath Eel.00:30
WS|ThermalIcefyre: What death eel do you have?00:30
digitaloktayDE = Deutschland Germany :P00:30
ActionParsnipIcefyre: well if you use kde / gnome / fluxbox / lxde / flwm, the desktop will look different00:30
Icefyrelol00:30
IcefyreI meant the GNOME themes00:30
MaT-dgit's april 23, 01:30AM GMT+1 here... release for me! xD00:30
Icefyrerather00:30
WS|ThermalIcefyre: He meant desktop environment, we're just screwing with you.00:30
Icefyrethe GTK themes00:30
FloodBot2Icefyre: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.00:30
Icefyrethat ship with it00:30
ActionParsnipIcefyre: you can use any gnome theme you can lay your hands on (?)00:30
WS|ThermalFloodBot2: Icefyre is flooding! :O00:31
Icefyreyeah, but its nicer not having to go to gnomelook everytime I install ubuntu00:31
Lord_DeviWS|Thermal: I the only unstable part of Ubuntu.. pretty much ever, are the proprietary drivers.00:31
musikgoat|maingnome-look.org00:31
Lord_DeviEither 3d drivers, or wifi drivers..00:31
Icefyrethe brown theme is the only downside to it00:31
ActionParsnipIcefyre: i use lxde + kubuntu personally. i dont concern myself with "looks"00:31
IcefyreI know that website pretty well00:31
Icefyrego there often00:31
Lord_DeviWS|Thermal: Err sorry. I meant for ME.00:31
WS|ThermalLord_Devi: My friend had Vista/Ubuntu dual-booted.00:31
Nasrahi all, question, if I want to put back my Gnome Desktop on my test pc,  should I just sudo or have to uninstall KDE Desktop first?00:31
Nasrathanks00:31
WS|ThermalLord_Devi: Somehow he made Ubuntu corrupt the tiniest bit of data.00:31
Lord_DeviWS|Thermal: I hear those two do not play well together.00:31
WS|ThermalLord_Devi: Then he booted Vista and vista managed to hose the ENTIRE partition table.00:31
IcefyreI've managed to put ubuntu on some vista machines00:31
Icefyreworks a lot faster00:32
racecar56back00:32
ActionParsnipLord_Devi: thats a part of ANY distro, not just ubuntu00:32
derrick-maryhello I deleted both panels on ubuntu 8.04 64 how do i reinstall00:32
Icefyrepeople I do it to had no clue their pc could be so fast00:32
WS|ThermalLord_Devi: Vista just hates everything, including itself00:32
Icefyrewhy reinstall?00:32
* Lord_Devi shakes his head00:32
Jack_Sparrow!ot00:32
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!00:32
WS|ThermalLord_Devi: I have unstable builds of Win7 here though, because of my dad, and its much better.00:32
Icefyrecan't u just re-enable the panels?00:32
ActionParsnipIcefyre: thats because vista's minimal requirements are higher than a default ubbuntu install00:32
WS|ThermalLord_Devi: Under NDA though so I can't say more than that.00:32
IcefyreWin7 isn't as good as XP00:32
derrick-marycause my awn doesn't start up when i reboot00:32
Jack_Sparrowderrick-mary you should not need to reinstall, you should be able to reset the panels00:32
ActionParsnipIcefyre: if you want it faster, install puppy linux00:32
Icefyrein terms of performance00:32
Icefyrelol00:32
derrick-maryeven with it being checked to do so00:32
WS|ThermalIcefyre: Win7 will be. Seriously.00:32
IcefyreI love puppy!00:32
musikgoat|maini wonder how many people are going to visit IRC when #ubuntu+1 is merged with #ubuntu,  wasn't there like 1800 or so people for the intrepid release00:32
Icefyreawesome distro00:33
WS|ThermalThe beta SUCKS compared to the current builds.00:33
Lord_DeviWS|Thermal: I still haven't tried Vista even.. I only have XP for games, and the benchmarks frown on Vista performance numbers compared to Xp00:33
Jack_SparrowIcefyre Please dont flood00:33
ActionParsnipderrick-mary: create a script to execute it and add it to !startup00:33
derrick-maryhow do you do that?00:33
Lord_DeviWS|Thermal: For non DX10 games of course. I hope Win7 is a little less bloat than Vista00:33
ActionParsnipIcefyre: tried xpud? boots in about 4 seconds here00:33
zach2825hi guys00:33
WS|ThermalLord_Devi: Win7 is so much better. I love it.00:33
Icefyrewhat is the limit on sentences per second? I'm being warned against flooding...00:33
Blaze_BoyProblem: i installed ubuntu hardy on toshiba satellite A100 but bluetooth and modem are dead ? what i have to do to get them work ?00:33
WS|ThermalLord_Devi: The beta is only a glimpse of the improvements. Its actually really high quality stuff.00:33
Nasrahi all, question, if I want to put back my Gnome Desktop on my test pc,  should I just sudo or have to uninstall KDE Desktop first?00:33
derrick-maryaction parsnip---how?00:34
ActionParsnipderrick-mary: i'd look into what scripting involves and work from there00:34
WS|ThermalIcefyre: Anything above 2 per minute.00:34
Lord_DeviWS|Thermal: Oh ok cool. I'll give that one a try then. It means more to me when it comes from a *buntu fella.00:34
ActionParsnipderrick-mary: or ask in #bash00:34
WS|ThermalLord_Devi: As much as I hate M$, (seriously), win7 actually excites me.00:34
Jack_Sparrowderrick-mary To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »00:34
digitaloktayIcefyre, join #ubuntu-release-party00:34
IcefyreWin7 looks just like vista with some of the stuff taken out00:34
Icefyreit is vista SP 200:34
WS|ThermalLord_Devi: Its kind of funny when you work for Microsoft and you're son is an open-source advocate who hates Microsoft. Its an interesting dynamic.00:34
Jack_SparrowNasra Did you ever uninstall it, ie can you get to it under options where you login to ubuntu00:34
Lord_DeviWS|Thermal: Well as a network tech, i'm just interested in how well Win7 plays with others.(Groupware squites, AD.. that sorta thing)00:35
WS|ThermalIcefyre: Much more than that, imo. The best way to summarize it is "vista that *works*"00:35
theblogguwhat directories besides /home should i backup for an upgrade ?00:35
Lord_Devi:%s/squites/suites00:35
ActionParsnipthebloggu: depends what you use00:35
WS|ThermalLord_Devi: Can't tell you much on that. The network stack has seen some improvements.00:35
Lord_DeviWS|Thermal: I HATE fighting with WIndows on job :(00:35
ActionParsnipthebloggu: if you use samba, backup /etc/samba/smb.conf00:35
Jack_Sparrow!ot00:35
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!00:35
WS|ThermalLord_Devi: I suggest you grab a leaked build of win7 off some torrents, if you need to test it00:35
WS|ThermalLord_Devi: Install it on a VM or a non-production machine though.00:35
ActionParsnipthebloggu: if you use apache, backup /var/www00:36
Jack_SparrowWS|Thermal Please stay on topic00:36
theblogguActionParsnip, i use samba indeed, no apache00:36
WS|ThermalJack_Sparrow: Yeah, I did deviate there for a bit. Sorry.00:36
Jack_Sparrowty00:36
ActionParsnipthebloggu: you need to think about what you se and backup that, you should have a backup anyway if the data is important00:36
WS|ThermalNo problem.00:36
musikgoat|mainthebloggu: you may want to backup all of /etc00:36
theblogguActionParsnip, ok, thank you00:36
thebloggumusikgoat|main, ok, why ?00:37
ActionParsnipthebloggu: it contains a fewconfig files like hosts, resolv.conf, stuff like that00:37
musikgoat|mainthebloggu: that holds all your configuration files, you can reference the backup if you find that a program doesn't work the way you remember00:37
musikgoat|mainits usually pretty small in size as well00:38
thebloggumusikgoat|main, ActionParsnip  ok, thank you :)00:38
ActionParsnipthebloggu: if you havent modified stuff in thre then you dont need to bother00:38
psychicmusikgoat00:38
ActionParsnipthebloggu: considring its 8Mb (on mine it is) you may as well, if its unneeded, you havent wasted much00:40
musikgoat|mainpsychic: yes?00:40
psychici tried doing that what u told me but it shows up differnt in terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/156210/00:40
ActionParsnipthebloggu: cd /; clear; sudo du -skh *00:40
mecca_I just installed (and fully updated) Jaunty.  For some reason, ssh will not start when the machine reboots, even though I've verified that it is set up to auto start (via sysv-rc-conf as well as update-rc.d ssh defaults) Any ideas?00:40
ActionParsnipmecca_: sudo apt-get --reinstall install openssh-server00:41
Jack_Sparrowpsychic What did you use as an editor?00:41
musikgoat|mainpsychic: you have not moved the second part of the last line to the next line00:41
theblogguActionParsnip, you're right00:41
psychicterminal00:41
theblogguActionParsnip, 16Metc00:41
Jack_Sparrow!editor00:41
musikgoat|mainpsychic: remember i said to move to 0/dev and hit enter after the 000:41
ubottuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code00:41
psychicno i know i didnt see the mnt part00:41
musikgoat|mainJack_Sparrow: he's using nano00:41
Jack_Sparrowty00:41
mecca_ActionParsnip: I've done that as well00:42
ActionParsnipthebloggu: may as well, eh00:42
musikgoat|mainpsychic: the $ means theres more to the line,00:42
psychico ok i misread00:42
Crash1hdI dont have to worry about windows viruses on exe in ubuntu right?00:42
NasraJack_Sparrow: no, I did not uninstall it is still there ..have no try it yet...but if that's so...what should I do?00:42
musikgoat|mainpsychic: you must arrow over00:42
ActionParsnipmecca_: sudo apt-get --purge remove openssh-server; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install openssh-server00:42
NasraJack_Sparrow:  and by the way mine show ...kubuntu when I reboot it00:42
Jack_SparrowNasra you can set gnome as the default or read the factoid00:42
Jack_Sparrow!puregnome00:43
MaT-dgtrying to compile a plugin for pidgin on 8.10 but I get this (cryptical for me) error -> http://pastebin.com/d4c7c330000:43
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 ; sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop »00:43
psychici arrowed over and pressed enter00:43
mecca_ActionParsnip: Good point, I haven't completely removed it and re-installed.  I'll give it a shot, thanks00:43
* Dolo is starting to lose it - when does 9.04 get released!?!00:43
drinkycrowwhat's the difference between .04 and .10 releases?00:43
musikgoat|mainDolo: better find what you lost00:43
ActionParsnipmecca_: worth ashot00:43
Picidrinkycrow: The month they were released.00:43
aymenhi00:43
Picidrinkycrow: 04 = April, 10 = october00:43
Crash1hdsimNIX: I dont have to worry about windows viruses on exe in ubuntu right?00:43
randomusrI want to install an OSX theme but don't understand the concept, could someone explain this a bit?00:43
NasraJack_Sparrow: no need to uninstall it, correct?00:43
Pici!outyet | Dolo00:44
ubottuDolo: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+100:44
aymeni have problem can help me00:44
Jack_SparrowNasra Yes and no00:44
carlitos__maldito hijo  de  puta00:44
drinkycrowthat makes sense00:44
ActionParsniprandomusr: http://www.howtoforge.com/mac4lin_make_linux_look_like_a_mac00:44
musikgoat|mainpsychic: so, are you figuring it out?00:44
carlitos__traes papel y jodes webon00:44
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NasraJack_Sparrow: let me reboot it and see...brb thanks00:44
musikgoat|main!es | carlitos__00:44
ubottucarlitos__: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.00:44
MaT-dgCrash1hd: u don't have to worr about windows virusses at all00:44
psychicso should it look like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/156213/00:45
musikgoat|mainpsychic: yes00:45
ActionParsnip!ask | aymen00:45
ubottuaymen: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)00:45
psychicnow just save?00:45
Crash1hdMaT-dg: ok can I clean a hdd that has a windows virus on it through some software on ubuntu?00:45
musikgoat|mainpsychic: but you can try commenting out the /mnt/00:45
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^Phantom2^Okay, I'm back.00:45
musikgoat|mainpsychic: add a # to that line... before the /mnt00:45
musikgoat|mainpsychic: then save and exit00:46
Jack_SparrowCrash1hd clamav00:46
ChallengerHey, I'm looking for Finnish Ubuntu fans and the Finnish Ubuntu mailing list.00:46
Jack_Sparrow!virus00:46
ubottuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2100:46
Pici!fi | Challenger00:46
ubottuChallenger: Tämä kanava on tarkoitettu vain englanninkieliselle keskustelulle. Jos haluat suomenkielistä apua (K)ubuntun ongelmiin, liity kanavalle #ubuntu-fi / #kubuntu-fi :-)00:46
Crash1hdJack_Sparrow: thanks00:46
Challenger:P00:46
Jack_Sparrownp00:46
ActionParsnip!finland00:46
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about finland00:46
ActionParsnip!finnish00:46
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about finnish00:46
PiciActionParsnip: I already did the factoid.00:46
ActionParsnipbah00:46
inasmu!askthebot00:46
ubottuPlease investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".00:46
randomusrthat sucked00:46
randomusrlet me try this again00:47
^Phantom2^I have a Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 950 Hybrid Stick tv-tuner, and I am having trouble getting ubuntu to recognize it and allow me to watch tv with it.  Is there anything I can do about this problem?00:47
randomusrcould someone explain how to install a Theme like OSX?00:47
EoL{s}iceroot: Still there?00:47
Pici!changethemes | randomusr seen this00:47
ubotturandomusr seen this: To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubottu xfce-themes00:47
mrNotYourandomusr: Yeap00:47
ActionParsniprandomusr: check that link, it will tll you how to configure it00:47
randomusrThanks All00:48
Jack_Sparrowrandomusr Look into cairo-dock and it has an osx theme00:48
mrNotYourandomusr: gnome-look.org. get an osx theme there. then get cairo-dock, it will allow you to put a dock like the os x dock on windows00:48
* ^Phantom2^ sits and waits, while petting the cat00:48
randomusrmrNotYou I want to change the look of window managers, Icons, etc00:48
mrNotYourandomusr: you can get all of that from gnome-look.org00:49
musikgoat|mainrandomusr: gnome-look.org has that00:49
randomusrI know how to get the dock00:49
mrNotYourandomusr: then get cairo-dock and set the dock;)00:49
mrNotYouand ure done;)00:49
maximoJack_Sparrow: rather uninstall kde desktop and install gnome desktop, whatis the command for doing that?00:49
randomusrI want my windows and everything to match lol00:49
ActionParsniprandomusr: search synaptic, you can install avant-window-navigator or cairo-dock00:49
EoL{s}If I shrink a partition using Windows Vista, and I choose "use largest continuous free space" installer option, will that affect any of my other partitions?00:49
randomusrOK again, I know hot to get the dock00:50
randomusrI want a better overall look00:50
Jack_Sparrow!puregnome00:50
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 ; sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop »00:50
randomusrI'll check the themes page00:50
ActionParsnipEoL{s}: after shrinking, the largest contiguous space will be the space you made00:50
maximoJack_Sparrow:  thanks00:50
Jack_Sparrowrandomusr then what you want is subject and not really what we do here00:50
Jack_Sparrowmaximo np00:50
EoL{s}ACtionParsnip: Yeah, but, the little bar shows Ubuntu 100% on the whole hard drive.00:50
Jack_Sparrowsubjective00:50
ActionParsniprandomusr: look round for stuff to add is all i can suggest00:50
ActionParsnipEoL{s}: then its not right00:51
djlinux64is the 9.04 release in 5 hours, at midnight?00:51
Pici!outyet | djlinux6400:51
ubottudjlinux64: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+100:51
MaT-dgcan I use windows driver for my webcam like u can use windows drivers for networkcard with ndiswrapper?00:51
Jack_Sparrowdjlinux64 doubtful00:51
psychicmusikgoat this right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/156216/00:51
djlinux64more like 29 hours?00:51
EoL{s}ACtionParsnip: Should I disregard it?00:51
jsast21join #ubuntu-release-party00:51
Picidjlinux64: More like when its done.00:51
djlinux64got it thx00:51
ActionParsnipEoL{s}: if you plan your partitions you do not have to resize as you can make the windows partition use only part of the drive00:51
ActionParsnipEoL{s}: no, do not disregard it00:52
Othor\join #linuxoutlaws00:52
simNIXi like them :000:52
g4lv4tr0njust noticed countdown on ubuntu site has now changed from 1 day to go to coming soon00:52
EoL{s}ActionParsnip: I reduced the Windows Vista partition by about 17 gigabytes.00:52
^Phantom2^EoL{s}: good job00:53
PelleNoob Q: I cant copy a simple folder! I first select cut, but then I cant paste it where I want it00:53
EoL{s}But it still shows 100% ubuntu, and I don't want that...00:53
^Phantom2^honestly, i'll never go past windows XP until Micro$haft puts out a fully working OS00:53
^Phantom2^besides, i like ubuntu a lot now00:53
ActionParsnipEoL{s}: Ive never used resize as i plan my partitions first00:54
ActionParsnipEoL{s}: so im not the guy to ask00:54
g4lv4tr0njaunty has real good wine support :)00:54
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Pellepaste is grayed out00:54
EoL{s}Oh, ok then.00:54
g4lv4tr0ni used to get access violation in intrepid with most things on wine00:54
ActionParsnip^Phantom2^: xp rarely works00:54
n2diydoes Ubuntu work with AIM?00:55
ActionParsnipg4lv4tr0n: wine is maintained by wine, its not got much to do with ubuntu00:55
Pellesomeone know what I do wrong?00:55
RodyaI've managed to screw up my file permissions... When doing ls -ahl, I am seeing drwsrwsrwx for directories, and I don't know what the s is or how to make it go away, any help?00:55
ActionParsnipn2diy: theres pidgin00:55
EoL{s}ActionParsnip: I'll try to do it manually then. Just one thing, one guide told me to make the slack space 500mb, another told me to make it double my computer memory. Which is best?00:55
wrice_Pelle: You may not have the appropriate permissions to move the folder00:56
g4lv4tr0nyeah i know but in intrepid it was broke no matter what ver of wine you were using00:56
spartawhen i try to do an aptitude update in ubuntu it gives the following error :http://paste.ubuntu.com/156220/00:56
Pellehow do I fix that wrice_? I want to move from home/pelle to usr/sbin00:56
g4lv4tr0nwow and bf2 would give access violation on both wine and cedega due to intrepid00:56
spartacan someone please check why?00:56
lstarnessparta: are you still using 7.04?00:57
wrice_Pelle: Only root can paste into /usr/sbin.00:57
^Phantom2^it picks up s-video and composite but not tv00:58
Pellewrice_: allright, how to do that?00:58
spartayes00:58
EoL{s}Guess I'll go with four gigs. Thanks for the help, all.00:58
pilif12pHi00:58
efjc_ypops or fetchyahoo, any rekomendations?00:58
Idespnnranyone here familiar with boxee?00:59
pilif12pMy task bar has dissapeared!00:59
KyleKcan I use the 8.10 livecd to install to /dev/md0 or do i need to use a different installer?00:59
pilif12pHelp please!00:59
spartalstarnes: yes 7.0400:59
lstarnessparta: support for that release ended back in october01:00
pilif12pPlease01:00
pilif12pI need help01:00
pilif12pMy task bar is gone!01:00
lstarnespilif12p: just be patient and someone will answer you when they are able to01:00
pilif12pthe bar at the bottom01:00
pilif12pokay01:00
lstarnessparta: you should probably upgrade to a newer version like 8.04 or 8.1001:01
lstarnespilif12p: is the whole bottom panel gone?01:01
pilif12pyeah01:01
gardarpilif12p, right click the panel at top and choose add panel01:01
wrice_Pelle: 'sudo mv'01:01
gartral1so, i have an nvidia 6200, how do i use the DVI port as main? right now, i have BOTH ports routed into my monitor, but DVI displays nothing, only VGA...01:01
pilif12pokay01:01
pilif12pbut nothing is on there01:01
Pellewrice_: i use the filebrowser in the desktop01:02
FlynsarmyNew ubuntu today people! Lock your doors, empty your calendars because its upgrading time01:02
ussergartral1, unplug vga and restart xorg01:02
pilif12pPlease?01:02
pilif12pNothing on the pannel01:02
lsbrumHow do I apply a patch to an installed program? The vsftpd is a bug with utf8 encoding and I found a patch.01:02
^Phantom2^well01:02
zetheroois Jaunty not released yet?01:02
usserlsbrum, you have to recompile from sources01:03
pilif12pjust email me at admin@pilif12p(dot)com01:03
wrice_Pelle: You'll want to open gnome-terminal and run 'sudo mv /home/pelle/source /usr/sbin/destination' or something similar01:03
^Phantom2^here's what works:  the tvtuner program picks up the input modes of my tvtuner (s-video and composite) without audio, and no tv signal is picked up01:03
^Phantom2^i'm using tvtime, btw01:03
gardarI'm not sure what timezone ubuntu will be released01:03
gardarshould be GMT01:03
gardarwhich is now01:03
mecca_ActionParsnip: Thanks for all of the suggestions, the problem ended up being that /etc/rc.d/S16ssh was being executed before dhclient had grabbed an IP address so it freaked out.  I moved it to S99ssh and everythings working fine01:03
gartral1usser: restart xorg is ctrl+alt+backspace, right?01:03
ussergartral1, yes01:03
ActionParsnipmecca_: sweet01:04
maximoJack_Sparrow: sorry to bother you but when I reboot I see the kubuntu logo on it (blue)...want to see Ubuntu logo instead, what do I do ?01:04
maximothanks01:04
Pellewrice_: Okey, I'll try it01:04
usser!info startupmanager | maximo01:04
ubottumaximo: startupmanager (source: startupmanager): Grub and Splash screen configuration. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.11-1 (intrepid), package size 88 kB, installed size 1016 kB01:04
lsbrumusser, Can I apply the patch and then make a .deb? You know a good manual for creating .deb packages?01:04
usserlsbrum, checkinstall is a great quick way to create deb packages of uncomplicated programs01:05
mdgWhats a good, quick way to share files over local network?01:05
usser!info checkinstall01:05
ubottucheckinstall (source: checkinstall): installation tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.1-7ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 113 kB, installed size 544 kB01:05
maximousser: how do i do it then?01:05
usserlsbrum, pretty much ./configure and make like you would with a source code and then instead of make install use checkinstall01:05
simNIXmdg; sh fs or nfs or samba ?01:05
^Phantom2^How can I get tvtime to pick up the audio from my tv tuner?01:05
ussermaximo, install startupmanager its pretty self-explanatory01:06
lsbrumusser, ok..01:06
KyleKcan I use the 8.10 livecd to install to /dev/md0 or do i need to use a different installer?01:06
maximook01:06
mdgsimNIX: What's the easiest to setup?01:06
usser^Phantom2^, usually tuner is connected to the soundcard by an audio cable check that yours is.01:06
simNIXmdg; is it to share to windows boxes or only to *nix ?01:06
mdgsimNIX: Only nix01:06
usser^Phantom2^, then in tv time select audio source as "line in"01:07
Sergiuhi01:07
Sergiuwhen the ubuntu 9.04 will be realised?01:07
Sergiu)01:07
usserSergiu, today01:07
simNIXnfs and ssh fs are both simple in setup - nfs = unencrypted / ssh fs is over ssh so encrypted - quick and simplest I think nfs01:07
KyleKmdg: nfs is quicker to setup but I've had more finicky problems01:07
xerxesin a few hours, Sergiu01:07
usserSergiu, sorry tomorrow01:07
^Phantom2^mine is connected on the tvtuner physically01:07
KyleKbut its tomorrow in my timezone! ;)01:07
gardaryou can use nfs with ssh, and then it's encrypted01:08
Sergiu:D01:08
^Phantom2^it's part of the input cord for devices to plug into the tuner01:08
xerxesBut you can take the daily snapshot also, Sergiu01:08
psychicmusikgoat still in01:08
psychic?01:08
xerxes!daily01:08
ubottuDaily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/01:08
simNIXgardar, by default or by tunneling it ?01:08
gardarby tunneling it :)01:08
Pellewrice_: ok it worked :) want to help me furher? I'm doing this: ddclient.wiki.sourceforge.net/01:08
usser^Phantom2^, its ouput actually. where does the sound cable end up?01:08
simNIXworth considering ...01:08
mdgsimNIX and KyleK - one box is running Mint 6 and has giver, the other box is mint 5 - no Giver01:08
usser^Phantom2^, did the same setup work on windows?01:08
^Phantom2^it plugs into the dongle on the tuner01:08
gardarI use it when I mount outside of my local network01:09
gardarworks just fine01:09
^Phantom2^usser: yes it did01:09
maximousser:  it's say already installed the startupmananger....how do I choose the ubuntu one as a startup from rebooting?01:09
maximothanks01:09
ussermaximo, sudo startupmanager01:09
maximodid that01:09
* mimor is away: zzz01:09
ussermaximo, there's a list of boot splashes01:09
maximowhere?01:09
mimorsorry for the away message01:10
usser^Phantom2^, so the audio cable is connected to the soundcard?01:10
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reidPROject-Emerald: whats up =P01:10
usser^Phantom2^, mine was a straight, tvtuner audio out -> souncard line in01:10
^Phantom2^it's connected to the tv tuner01:10
PROject-EmeraldNm.01:10
PROject-EmeraldHow do you mount a .iso to make a bootable disk?01:10
maximousser: sudo apt-get startupmanager ubuntu-desktop01:10
usser^Phantom2^, so i just used line-in as a sound source in tvtime01:10
reidPROject-Emerald: you shouldn't need to mount it01:11
ussermaximo, nope01:11
Pellewrice_: now witch one is the perl-script, and how to I make a cache?01:11
maximodamn01:11
reidPROject-Emerald: just double click the iso file, and it should prompt you for what you want to do with it01:11
reidPROject-Emerald: one of those options are burn to CD/DVD01:11
PROject-EmeraldI'm trying to put Kubuntu on a CD-R to make a bootdisk01:11
ussermaximo, open startupmanager you'll see it01:11
maximook01:11
PROject-EmeraldWill that make it bootable? I only have one CD left01:11
Pellewrice_: and later, where is the "startup scripts"?01:11
psychichow do i save my modifications in terminal???01:12
ActionParsnipPROject-Emerald: download the iso and open it with your cd writer, the iso is bootable01:12
reidPROject-Emerald: if it says "burn image to CD/DVD", then if the .iso is of a bootable CD, then it will be bootable01:12
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PROject-EmeraldOk, I doubleclicked the Kubuntu-8.10 .iso and it brought up the Write to Disk menu. Should I burn or go into my programs and do?01:13
reidhowever, #ubuntu-server is asleep, can anyone here help me get VNC to connect to my server (running fluxbox)?01:13
mrNotYou!outyet01:13
ubottuJaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+101:13
jduPROject-Emerald, if you want you could use wodim:   wodim -v dev=/dev/scd0 speed=0 kubuntu.iso01:13
jduPROject-Emerald, oops  speed ought to me more like 801:13
wrice_Pelle: I don't know much about DNS, but I'm pretty sure ddclient comes with example startup scripts.01:13
PROject-EmeraldHaha01:13
reidPROject-Emerald: just do it through the write to disk menu01:14
PROject-Emeraldok01:14
PROject-EmeraldWrite Disc To:  CD-RW CRX216E or File Image?01:14
ActionParsnipPROject-Emerald: burn as slow as you can01:14
Pellewrice_: okay thx for your help!01:14
ActionParsnipPROject-Emerald: did you md5 check the iso?01:14
reidthe release for jaunty has too been determined01:14
wrice_Pelle: yw01:14
reidPROject-Emerald: burn to CD writer01:14
PROject-EmeraldNo, I didn't. why?01:14
ActionParsnipPROject-Emerald: it checks what you have downloaded is correct01:15
PROject-EmeraldHow do I do that?01:15
ActionParsnip!md5 | PROject-Emerald01:15
ubottuPROject-Emerald: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows01:15
PROject-Emeraldthanks01:15
ActionParsnipPROject-Emerald: md5 checking is ESSENTIAL01:15
psychicterminal help...01:15
ActionParsnippsychic: sup01:16
psychicah thank u01:16
psychichow do i save modifications to a file in terminal01:16
psychicdoes it save if i just close it01:17
psychic?01:17
ActionParsnippsychic: what editor have you used?01:17
psychicterminal01:17
tsoppThat's not and editor. :P01:17
ActionParsnippsychic: terminal is not an editor01:17
psychichttp://paste.ubuntu.com/156216/01:17
psychici edited it in terminal01:17
reidpsychic: nano, vim, vi, gedit?01:17
ActionParsnippsychic: vi, nano are termial basd editors01:17
psychicnano01:17
jdupsychic, C^X01:17
ActionParsnippsychic: ok then the app is nano, not terminal01:17
psychicGNU nano01:17
ActionParsnippsychic: ctrl + x01:18
PROject-EmeraldOk, it says it's the Kubuntu ISO and it's all correct01:18
psychicoo ok01:18
PROject-EmeraldDo I just doubleclick the ISO and burn it at the lowest speed?01:18
ActionParsnippsychic: then press y to save changes and press enter01:18
psychicthats how that works01:18
reidPROject-Emerald: yeah it should be fine01:18
jduPROject-Emerald, yes, as an image01:18
ActionParsnipPROject-Emerald: you could rightclick it and select open with app01:18
PROject-Emeraldjdu: So, my options for "Burn To:" are    -CD-RW CRX216E or file image01:19
ActionParsnipPROject-Emerald: just open the file with the application01:19
rhsanbornDoes ubuntu come with an app to scan for available networks by default?01:20
PROject-EmeraldI did, the Write to Disc application01:20
rhsanbornavailable wireless networks01:20
ActionParsnipPROject-Emerald: no, like gnomebaker, k3b, whatever01:20
PROject-Emeraldwould Brasero work?01:20
totto-drummondWhere can we get the final version of Ubuntu 9.0401:20
depok_hitori_janWhen will jaunty be released exactly? What time in UTC01:21
tsopprhsanborn, yes it comes with network manager.01:21
ActionParsnipPROject-Emerald: sure, choose that01:21
Flanneltotto-drummond, depok_hitori_jan: We don't know.  Please join #ubuntu-release-party to wait for it.  There's no "set time"01:21
jduPROject-Emerald, odd,  probably.   I usually use wodim.  The main thing is to burn it *as* an image at a a low speed01:21
PROject-EmeraldOk. Would 11x do or should I go as low as 1x?01:21
tsopptotto-drummond, it comes ou ton the 23rd, you can either get it from the website as an ISO or if you have an existing install use update-manager.01:22
ActionParsnipPROject-Emerald: slower the better01:22
jduPROject-Emerald, probably 11x is fine though .  4x-8x is probably best01:22
PROject-EmeraldOk. Burning.01:22
jdugood luck!01:22
PROject-EmeraldI did it @ 501:22
PROject-EmeraldHow long should this take?01:22
psychicnow last night i ran out of hard drive space so i deleted 9 gigs of duplicates videos and music so i have some extra space but my screen size shrunk down to where theres a black border around the screen about an inch and a half like a frame and all of my desktop icons and files disappeared and.... my xfce menu is all wacked out01:23
jdua while...01:23
maximoJack_Sparrow:  got it thanks alot01:23
psychiccan some one help me out?01:23
sahakhello01:23
sahakwhere can I download Ubuntu 9.04?01:23
joan_0hi ! I have a problem with Ubuntu Jaunty for netbook. When I start with USB the boot stops and show (initramfs) promt. What is this ?01:23
joan_0sahak, ubuntu.com, there are a banner who allows you to download01:24
psychico and another thing b4 i lost my desktop icons the desktop switched from the oem xubuntu to the theme from ubuntu intrepid01:24
psychic?????01:24
PROject-Emeraldwait, is Jaunty out? Or are they still dling RC?01:24
joan_0RC01:24
jduPROject-Emerald, tomorrow01:24
PROject-EmeraldOk01:24
psychicit switched by it self that is01:24
psychicanyone want to try  and tackle it01:25
joan_0Anyone knows what is initramfs prompt ?01:25
sahakjoan_0: the banner leads to the release candidate. I want the final release.01:25
psychicmy computer is pultergeisted...01:25
biggerfischsahak: its not out yet01:25
joan_0sahak, you mut wait xD01:25
thirdwheel_hey all, i've set up my sudoers file like so: http://codepad.org/p4ez6qvb - but the openvisor user still can't do any of the commands I've set - it still asks for a password and won't let it through01:25
sahaki am very impatient01:25
thirdwheel_psychic, say what?01:25
jduphychic, did you delete config files too?01:25
psychicdid u read all that01:25
psychic?01:25
jdupsychic, well you said that you deleted duplicate files... normally that would be unrelated to the problems you described...01:26
psychicno i delted all that stuff after the problems occured01:26
xerxesWhich ubuntu version is the most secure?01:26
joan_0I have a problem with Ubuntu Jaunty for netbook. When I start with USB the boot stops and show (initramfs) promt. What is this ?01:26
racecar56bacj01:27
racecar56back01:27
psychicno its stuff i downloaded it was duplicates of vids ad music from youtube01:27
psychici thought having more than 3.3 mb of hard drive space would fix it lol01:27
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jdujoan_0, Your kernel wasn't loaded properly.01:28
psychicif some one could p.m. me i have to grab my laundry01:28
joan_0I tried with 2 USB, and I check the md5sum for the iso01:28
simNIXwhy not share answers also in room so other can maybe learn from it ?01:28
digitaloktayjoan_0, join /j #ubuntu+101:28
jdupsychic, try creating a new user account.01:28
utferdhi01:28
utferdis 9.10 released?01:29
jdujoan_0, is this from the iso?01:29
jduutferd, tomorrow01:29
utferdjdo, time?01:29
joan_0jdu what is the diference between channels ?01:29
utferdnow , its 03:29 am01:29
utferd:D01:29
digitaloktaybut not 9.10 :D01:29
jduutferd, not sure.01:29
digitaloktay9.0401:29
thirdwheel_10:29am here01:30
utferdthirdwheel_, australia?01:30
digitaloktay2:30 here01:30
thirdwheel_yep01:30
loquitus_of_bor1anybody notice that the remote desktop viewer in Ubuntu (and perhaps in general) does not refresh properly? as in, when I am viewing a remote desktop, what I am seeing is very stale... I can tell because the clock is WAY behind01:30
jdujoan_0, #ubuntu+1 is over jaunty01:30
utferddigitaloktay, turkey?01:30
joan_0oks, sorry :D01:30
loquitus_of_bor1what time, ZULU, is Jaunty officially out?01:30
thirdwheel_hey all, i've set up my sudoers file like so: http://codepad.org/p4ez6qvb - but the openvisor user still can't do any of the commands I've set - it still asks for a password and won't let it through01:30
digitaloktayutferd, germany ;) turkey 3.3001:30
utferddigitaloktay, ok i get it, bende ordayım zaten01:31
utferd:)01:31
digitaloktayutferd, hosgeldin ;)01:31
pio1Ioquitus_of_bor1: my remote desktop doesn't refresh at all. I have to terminate then reconnect my session for it to refresh.01:31
utferddigitaloktay, eyw, ubuntu-tr ye bekleriz01:31
loquitus_of_bor1pio1: it is supposed to be synced so you can in fact interact even with the hose01:31
loquitus_of_bor1host01:31
loquitus_of_bor1but it is totally horribly behind01:31
rhsanbornIt looks like network manager is starting by default. Perhaps this is an issue with the notification area, which is something I seem to remember. Is there any way to make sure it's present and activated/01:32
rhsanborn?01:32
pio1loquitus_of_bor1: I know mate, I was just saying I'm running jaunty RC with all updates and mine does the same thing.01:32
pio1loquitus_of_bor1: It's very annoying. I use Remote desktop all the time.01:32
joan_0jdu is not ISO, is .img . I make the USB with unetbootin01:32
loquitus_of_bor1pio1: ok... I am on Jaunty too... same deal, although I am pretty sure it was doing this on Intrepid as well...01:33
loquitus_of_bor1pio1: I don't really understand what it is doing. I can see the mouse moving on the host, but the clock is exactly where it was when I connected!01:34
finaltunehello01:34
pio1loquitus_of_bor1: Yeah! that's exactly the same as mine. Obviously it's a bug. Maybe we should report it at launchpad?01:34
finaltunei can't read the ascii CAPTCHA in ubuntu QA...01:34
finaltunecan you please help me?01:34
racecar56is it ok to use announced status messages here?01:34
mishohi guys01:35
LjL!away > racecar56    (racecar56, see the private message from ubottu) if you mean these, no01:35
loquitus_of_bor1pio1: yah we could... is this a Jaunty bug or is that application itself hosed? I am not sure where to draw the line between complaining to Ubuntu vs not doing so.01:35
loquitus_of_bor1pio1: it is weird. the mouse moves but does nothing of apparent intelligence.01:35
pio1loquitus_of_bor1: No, It's not the application. The application works in Linux Mint, which is based on intrepid.01:36
loquitus_of_bor1pio1: ok... so it indeed is the Jaunty client, you are suggesting...?01:36
pio1loquitus_of_bor1: Yes, I would think so.01:37
jdujoan_0, your problem is occurring before the kernel starts as ubuntu is trying to configuration, but fails.... There could be any number of reasons why01:37
mishohas anyone upgraded to jaunty final release?01:38
KoolKat33i'm having an issue in 8.04 when i bootup my monitor goes into sleep mode when the gui loads, any ideas?01:38
finaltunei really can't read the capture in Ubuntu QA01:39
joan_0jdo, I find in lp that is a bug of the RC, not my fault. Thanx a lot for the help. I must wait for final relesase :D Good night !01:39
unitedpotsmokershey guys, jaunty will launch today rite?01:39
^Phantom2^'01:39
LjL!jaunty01:39
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party01:39
jdujoan_0, oh well, hope it will be fixed.01:39
mishowell at my place it is april 23.  :)))))01:40
unitedpotsmokersLjL:: if jaunty launch, then this channel can talk about jaunty rite?01:40
pio1misho: me too, where are you at?01:40
LjLyes. but it's not out NOW. so please discuss it in #ubuntu-release-party.01:40
KoolKat33i'm having an issue in 8.04 when i bootup my monitor goes into sleep mode when the gui loads, any ideas?01:40
zvacetunitedpotsmokers: when it is out yes01:41
mishopiol: serbia uzice01:41
mishosorry pio101:41
mishopio1 : where are u?01:42
pio1mish: Australia.01:42
jduKoolKat33, what if you go to a virtual terminal?01:42
mishopio1: ohhh surfing01:42
simNIXa resolution your monitor cant do ?01:42
Blaze_BoyProblem: i installed ubuntu hardy on toshiba satellite A100 but modem is dead ? what i have to do to get it work ?01:42
luminosoon fiile galaries01:42
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luminosohow do i move a file? i selec a file. i click on move, then what?01:43
PerryArmstrongcan anyone help in this discussion http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113279101:43
KoolKat33i can ctrl+alt+f2 to get to prompt, and the monitor comes back fine01:43
simNIXKoolKat33, a resolution your monitor cant do ?01:43
luminososorry wrong channel01:43
Blaze_BoyHelp01:44
pio1blaze_boy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto?action=show&redirect=SettingUpModems01:44
zvacetluminoso : with mv command look at man mv01:44
KoolKat33how can i change the res from prompt?01:44
jduluminoso, drag an drop01:44
luminosowrong channel. this question was to #tikiwiki01:45
luminososorry01:45
H3XiL3Dluminoso eheeh :)01:45
PerryArmstrongcan anyone help in this discussion http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113279101:45
simNIXKoolKat33, I think by switch off gdm and then edit xorg.conf (after backing up current) ... and then startx to test01:45
KoolKat33can i pm you please?01:46
simNIXrather have conversation here - that ways others can help and learn also ...01:46
jduPerryArmstrong, you can use apt-proxy on the server to share updates.  The cd could potentially be booted from the network and installed.01:46
KoolKat33when i edit xorg.conf i can't find the area for screen properties01:47
PerryArmstrongjdu; so through this apt-proxy...i can boot the cd from the network01:48
PerryArmstrong??01:48
simNIXKoolKat33, try on root console; /etc/init.d/gdm stop (x off) -> then maybe this helps; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973&highlight=refresh+rate+howto  after modifiying try startx to load x and see if any errors01:48
digitalpsykoanyone have the dell e6400 with  the 9cell and 12 cell battery plate? i was wondering how i can get a more accurate battery reading? ubuntu ftw.01:48
jduPerryArmstrong, no apt-proxy would only handle updates through the server.01:48
KoolKat33thank you..i'll let ya know what happens01:48
jduPerryArmstrong, you want to use pxe booting for the install without cds, or preseeding01:49
dft_Is there a nautilus addon that will mount ISO's as loopback devices?01:49
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simNIXk01:49
maoduni set up a functioning ssh server on an ubuntu box a while back and then left it alone. i recently tried to log in, and my connection continually timed out. i had someone hook up a mouse and keyboard to the server and, voila, it worked. i'm guessing the machine went into hibernation or some such since no one had touched it for a while and thus the ssh server went down. is that possible? and if so, how can i disable such sleep / hibernat01:49
PerryArmstrongjdu; you mean the one given here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer  i didnt understand what you said01:49
simNIXKoolKat33, specific pay atention to the bit; "Find your monitors manual (manufacturers website and Google are useful).01:50
simNIXLook for hozizontal sync and vertical refresh rates, also if bandwidth or maximum dot clock / pixel clock is mentioned, write it down."01:50
jduPerryArmstrong, that should work, I think01:50
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jduPerryArmstrong, basically, once it set up on the server, the clients need to be set to boot off the network.01:51
zvacetgood night and see you soon01:51
PerryArmstrongjdu; okk.. all the clients are connected by LAN01:52
simNIXPerryArmstrong, apt-proxy sometimes failed here so I went for a local mirror with apt-mirror01:52
jduPerryArmstrong, Another way is to use the cd in all the clients but to specify a .cfg file over the network.01:52
simNIXwith apt-mirror you can also setup to grab updates01:53
PerryArmstrongjdu; this is getting a bit complicated01:53
Sertsewhat's the default wallpaper for jaunty? I expected more of a fuss in the forums, but I'm not seeing anything01:53
SertseI know theme is still human01:54
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; so will 160GB HDD and 1GB ram suffice for it?01:54
optimo_praimhello, how can I include the usernames in the logon window when ubuntu boots up?01:54
jduPerryArmstrong, yes. The file would supply the answers to all the questions when installing so all you would have to would be to insert the cd and tell it where the file is.01:54
simNIXPerryArmstrong, I only mirror i386 and thats around 22Gb, the 1Gb ram is overkill but nice to have - I serve it out with vsftpd to my clients01:55
StanLangersHey guys whats the situation with wubi with the new realese?01:55
Pelle11is Ubuntu using redhat style rc files and demon mode? and what does that mean?01:55
jduPerryArmstrong, I haven't actually done exactly that before, but I have heard it works.01:55
kitche!upstart | Pelle1101:55
* jdu has to go01:55
ubottuPelle11: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/01:55
simNIXpreseed works realy nice - that way I can fully automated install01:56
StanLangersWill wubi be available with the new Jaunty release?01:56
geniiGah, wubi01:56
Pelle11thx kitche!01:56
evilaimhey all01:56
simNIXStanLangers, isnt it already out with 8.10 ?01:56
StanLangersYes its available for 8.1001:56
evilaimThere has to be an easier way to change the splash screen.01:56
casslabhi01:57
StanLangersWhat im wondering is will it be able to install the new 9.04 Jaunty?01:57
optimo_praimesta de weba01:57
Pici!jaunty01:57
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party01:57
tzangergood evening; can anyone assist me in bringing up my wifi from the command line (it works fine if I boot to gui, but I'm having some trouble with the GUI that I'd like to debug through ssh)01:57
casslablike, can ubuntu help me correct my lack of penile erections? (in english: halp my peen not up; can lunix halp ?!)01:57
tzangerI'm not sure how to tell ubuntu to bring up eth1 just lke networkmanager does in the gui01:57
evilaimDoes anyone know an easier way to change my splash screen?01:57
StanLangers?01:57
PerryArmstrongjdu; somebody also suggested apt-cacher01:57
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evilaimother then doing some weird linking and stuff?01:58
evantandersencasslab it can surf to porn sites...01:58
casslabevaluser: yes, PEE ON IT.01:58
kdaskcould anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system?01:58
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PerryArmstrongsimNIX; what do you mean by overkill01:58
detrates/casslab/troll/01:58
LjLcasslab: please, take this channel seriously. thank you.01:58
kitche!usplash | evilaim have you tried this?01:58
ubottuevilaim have you tried this?: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork01:58
hadisserious.01:59
simNIXPerryArmstrong, with apt-cacher I had that clients borked on some files that were corupted while apt-cacher grabbed it - I then had to manualy remove it from pool and then it would be regrabbed01:59
casslabLjL: YA~1~```11 I'm taking this channel very SRSLY!101:59
LjL!ops | casslab01:59
ubottucasslab: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elky,  imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso,  PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!01:59
StanLangersSo will wubi be able to install Jaunty? 9.04?01:59
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; so aptproxy is better??02:00
casslabLjL: m02:00
casslabpm02:00
* Sergiu_ г02:00
simNIXPerryArmstrong, apt-mirror was best fit here02:00
evilaimwow, that's a lot of steps just for a splash screen02:00
GillaGalI have an Intel Q8200 Quad core processor. If I install Ubuntu 8.10 32 bit will I still be able to use all 4 cores?02:01
simNIXapt-proxy gave me simular coruption probs at times02:01
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; whats really the difference between apt-mirror, apt-proxy and apt-cacher02:01
kdaskcould anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system?02:01
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jonathan3what is the difference between linux and a computer ?02:02
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StanLangersJust wondering if wubi will be available to install Jaunty 9.04?02:02
casslabwhat exactly is a "troll"? I have LjL in my PM; begging me to stop02:02
casslabwtf02:02
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simNIXapt-proxy and apt-cacher are mostly the same; if a cliet requests a file they grab it for thhat cleint and store it for use for next client wanting the same - apt-mirror is a way to download have a full mirror (with posiblity only i386 or any arch)02:02
casslabLjL: STOP private msging me, PLEASE!02:02
kdasklol02:03
jonathan3lol02:03
jonathan3hi everybody02:03
GaladrielhimI m from Mars. How can I store a radio station in rytmbox... The sistem is asking me for ttx/html decoder. Can you help me now?I am easy02:03
RayfordHey.  Anyone use ESRI BusinessMAP 5?02:03
jonathan3me02:03
mitchellwhat timw is jaunty gonna be available???02:04
RayfordJonathan3: you do?02:04
RayfordDo you own a copy of it?02:04
simNIXPerryArmstrong, simpler put; proxy programs grab only that requsted (and in my experience sometimes wrongly) and apt-mirror just downloads everithing02:04
jonathan3sure02:04
jonathan3need it?02:04
Rayfordya02:04
pio1loquitus_of_bor1: are you still here?02:04
zakkcould someone take a look at this please02:04
zakkhttp://pastebin.com/m44f38d4502:04
mitchelldoes anyone know?02:04
kdaskcould anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system?02:05
mitchellwhat time jaunty is available?02:05
tgrhi i was wondering if the upgrade that comes out tomorrow will be faster or lighter than 8.04 i am considering upgrading02:05
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; so i think apt-mirror works better02:05
simNIXI agree02:05
Galadrielhimsakrabidelbadelbudel02:05
josh977Jaunty release tomorrow. Anyone throwing any wild parties?02:05
pio1tgr: how much RAM do you have.02:05
GaladrielhimAnswer me please02:05
jonathan33go02:06
kdaskwhat timezone josh97702:06
josh977Central Standard02:06
simNIXalso in light you wanting to mirror security updates; what if you update once a day and one hour after that a big hole is plugged ... I tend to grab updates just from the source02:06
kdaskcould anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system?02:06
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; i can't trust the community docs for this....they are a bit incomplete always....is there any material that has been written out of true experience02:06
dft_zakk: what command did you execute?02:07
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; for this apt-mirror02:07
zakkdft_: I was just upgrading my installed packages02:07
dft_kdask: do you have a 64bit install already?02:07
zakkdft_: and then if I install anything new now I get that message02:07
kdaskdft_ yes02:07
dft_zakk: looks liek you're missing some files02:07
zakkdft_: yup02:07
dft_kdask: !schroot02:07
dft_kdask: !dchroot02:08
dft_!dchroot02:08
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about dchroot02:08
dft_!schroot02:08
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about schroot02:08
dft_anyways02:08
kdask!fruit02:08
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about fruit02:08
Pici!msgthebot02:08
zakk!chroot02:08
ubottuPlease investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".02:08
ubottuchroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot)02:08
dft_kdask: lookup schroot02:08
ccidraldoes anyone know what time will ubuntu 9.04 be released?02:08
ccidrali'm anxious :)02:08
kdaskthanks zakk02:09
DanCI've got an msi wind and I want to run the ubuntu remix on it; any suggestions about how to get there?02:09
zakksure02:09
Pici!outyet | ccidral02:09
ubottuccidral: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+102:09
thahauss_Hi everyone, I'm new to ubuntu (running 9.04) an am trying to get 'appearance preferences > themes' to have a transparent effect to match my emerald theme, can someone please tell me how 2 do this?02:09
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Pelle11how do I "enable automatic startup when booting"02:09
ccidralPici thanks02:09
wgrant_thahauss_: You need #ubuntu+1.02:09
simNIXPerryArmstrong, I dont get -> this is all I have to do to get it working; http://pastebin.com/d93480ed02:09
dft_zakk: can you apt-get that particular kernel image first?02:09
wgrant_thahauss_: Ubuntu 9.04 is not yet released.02:09
zakkdft_: ok I'll try that02:09
gartral2how do i daemonize a running proccess?02:10
zakkgartral2: ctrl+z then bg02:10
zakkgartral2: but I think you still need the terminal open02:10
simNIXPerryArmstrong, Ill consider writing a litle article on it soon02:10
zakkgartral2: so your best bet is to run everything under screen02:10
FrozenFireI've been getting pulsing latency issues under Ubuntu since I started using it about 3 years ago. Does this sound like the ext3 fsync issue? I especially notice it when watching a Flash video, such as on Youtube.02:10
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; ohh so you have a blog??02:10
zakkdft_: http://pastebin.com/m209e508802:11
philsfhow can I pin ppa.launchpad.net (instead of the repository, i.e., hardy, intrpid, jaunty...)02:11
philsf?02:11
gartral2meh, i just needed it one-off, i opened pidgin through terminal cause it crashed the last time i tryed opening it, oh well, musta been a one-timer02:11
* DanC re-discovers wubi...02:11
KujiUnIs there any way to remore desktop view someone using the same wireless network as me?02:11
simNIXI got a domain week ago orso - not found time yet to put nifo up - working on it ..02:12
genii!pin02:12
ubottupinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto02:12
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kdaskcould anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system? isnt there a faster command someone could tell me?02:12
dft_zakk: nm, just saw a few lines down02:12
philsfgenii, that doesn't answer my question, I read it02:13
Juls4Hi guys, I've got a problem. I updated my firefox icon (with a blue icon to match my theme) in /usr/lib/firefox_3.0.8/icon with a .png and two .xpm. However now all I get is a default no icon page looking thing. Any suggestions???02:13
coskundhi02:13
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Crash1hddoes ubuntu support dual moniters?02:14
simNIXx does; yes02:14
kdaskcould anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system? isnt there a faster command someone could tell me?02:14
dft_kdask: no02:14
^Blizzerand^!welcome02:14
ubottuWelcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.02:14
philsfkdask, what exactly do you want to do?02:15
dft_you need to setup a 32bit jail to run those apps02:15
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; i didnt get what you said..anyways this is my blog.. http://ossarchives.blogspot.com02:15
kdaski want to install adobe flash02:15
kdaskphilsf:02:15
KoolKat33simnix:: i have returned02:15
KoolKat33all is well02:15
simNIXKoolKat33, cool02:15
dft_kdask: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457502:15
philsfkdask, in amd64?02:15
Crash1hdsimNIX: I have downloaded and burnt and running the cd right now how would I go about setting up dual windows?02:15
kdaskyes philsf02:15
webblesneed to upgrade from gutsy, can't apt-get update manager core, any ideas?02:15
philsfkdask, what  ubuntu release?02:15
kdask8.1002:15
GillaGalI have an Intel Q8200 Quad core processor. If I install Ubuntu 8.10 32 bit will I still be able to use all 4 cores?02:16
tgri have 2 gb ram02:16
simNIXPerryArmstrong, I tried to say; no I dont have a blog yet, but I did register a domain where I am goin to put info up on soon02:16
webblesgilla yes02:16
wgrant_dft_: That's four years old...02:16
dft_zakk: does that kernel image even exist under /boot?02:16
philsfwebbles, there is an archive for EOL releases, google for that02:16
geniiphilsf: See sections 3.8 through 3.10 of http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html02:16
webblesthanks02:16
dft_wgrant_: first howto I googled02:16
GillaGalwebbles well then what is the advantage of 64 bit?02:16
KoolKat33i will say it was kind of a pain, i had to unload the driver, reinstall, unload gnome, THEN edit config, loaded up Gnome and it works!02:16
KoolKat33thank you for the link02:16
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; you are welcome to contribute in my blog depending on your interest02:16
kdaskphilsf: 8,1002:17
simNIXgladely shared KoolKat33 it some time back also realy helped me02:17
webbles64 bit is needed to take advantage of memory greater than 4 gigs02:17
webblesand also the ability to use 64 bit registers02:17
GillaGalwebbles Ok so for a desktop/media box it will be ok at 32bit?02:17
tgrx02:18
kdaskwebbles: whats 64 bit registers?02:18
webblesyou will be fine Gilla02:18
dft_kdask: here's an uptodate howto02:18
dft_http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73359502:18
philsfkdask, there's an amd64 version of adobe flash02:18
geniiphilsf: pinning by origin is likely what you want to do02:18
philsf!partner | kdask02:18
ubottukdask: The Ubuntu partnership program is designed to encourage, recognise and endorse Ubuntu expertise and commercial initiatives. It is structured to foster a healthy ecosystem surrounding Ubuntu, to highlight those companies with certified expertise in Ubuntu and a deeper relationship to Canonical. See http://www.ubuntu.com/partners for more information.02:18
kdaskwait i dont have 4 GB of ram02:18
wgrant_dft_: That's still out of date.02:18
simNIXPerryArmstrong, it may take ma a while but once done I will be behind simnix.info02:18
philsfgenii, thanks, but I think that also doesn't help, or I misunderstood... I don't want to pin the package version, since this way I might 1) loose ability to upgrade 2) must do it per package, aiui02:19
simNIXIll have a look at yours02:19
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; okk02:19
kdaskwhats 64 bit registers?02:19
dft_wgrant_: well then what is the bleading edge way?02:19
philsfgenii, also, AIUI, the origin is the release, no?02:19
wgrant_kdask: If you don't already know, you don't need to.02:19
meoblast001by any chance is it ok to get autotools support in here? or is that offtopic?02:19
* dft_ can't spell tonight02:19
geniiphilsf: origin is the repo02:19
wgrant_dft_: Flash doesn't need an i386 chroot. Hasn't for a couple of years.02:19
wolteris there anyway I can upgrade to the ubuntu release candidate?02:19
simNIXonly 10 euro for 1 year a domain so I ditch dyndns - )02:19
kdaskso i dont need 64 bit?02:19
wgrant_dft_: Firefox will prompt to install it, even on amd64.02:19
JDSheweySo... I want to set up a dual head setup. I want KDE on one monitor, and a virtualbox VM on the other, but I want to use compiz and keep the ability to use the edge flip. I can't to stack the monitors, so I would like to have some sort of key combination to switch which monitor the mouse/keyboard is bound to. Is this possible?02:19
dft_wgrant_: I know, I didn't realize that was his issue, nm then02:19
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; just a doubt; can my desktop system make updations from the server at college with this apt-mirror02:20
Pelle112How do I get ddclient to start at every boot?02:20
dft_wgrant_: I needed it for the nessus gui02:20
wolterPelle112, add it to System > Preferences > Sessions02:20
philsfgenii, yes, I confused it with a(archive). what's the origin for ppas?02:20
Pelle112thx wolter02:20
geniiphilsf: The origin is the repository URL02:20
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kdaskwgrant_: i ask because i want to know if i need 64 bit or not02:21
andr3sone question: if i install xfce desktop extension with sudo in my ubuntu os, i changed the os to xubuntu?02:21
philsfgenii, thanks, I think this is what I missed02:21
simNIXPerryArmstrong, your home desktop has to connect over the internet to college ftp server serving out what apt-mirror sownloaded or are you on campus ?02:21
simNIXPerryArmstrong, or http server02:21
geniiphilsf: np02:21
Pelle112wolter, btw is that the same as a deamon?02:22
powtrixhi. can I install java on ubuntu 8.10 64-bits ?02:22
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; i didnt set the server up still at campus... i need to collect all information and manuals and then start the work02:22
h8redheya02:22
simNIXPerryArmstrong, clear; but I meen once setup ...02:22
andrew_connect02:22
kdaskwhats 64 bit registers anyone?02:22
philsfkdask, google02:23
JDShewey64 bit registers are the width of variables in a 64 bit processor02:23
simNIXPerryArmstrong, I would keep the mirror localy since if its Intrnet facing biger change of it getting cacked ..02:23
mutilatorhow do ya change file association defualts02:23
JDShewey32 bit processors have 32 bit registers02:23
East_Coast_Girlgood evening folks :)02:23
simNIX...and all clients install from it ...02:24
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; i didnt understand what you said atall02:24
powtrixi tried to link libnpjp2 but the java does not work on firefox3.02:24
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; i didnt understand what you said *at all02:24
wgrant_mutilator: To change the application with which a file type opens, you can right-click on such a file and find the last tab.02:24
kdaskoh so if i have a processor that SUPPORTS 64 bit do i need to have a 64 bit OS ?02:24
GillaGalkdask Nope.02:24
kdaskGillaGal: does it help?02:24
JDSheweyA 64 bit processor can run a 32 bit OS, but you are using part of your overall capabilty.02:24
JDSheweyYou will get better performance out of a 64 bit OS.02:25
tgrso was curious is 9.04 more heavy than 8.04? on resources02:25
francesco_italian???02:25
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; can you make it clear02:25
JDSheweyBut sometimes you have compatability issues.02:25
eseven73!it | francesco_02:25
ubottufrancesco_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)02:25
simNIXPerryArmstrong, you asked can my dektop update from campus; I asked is your home on campus or do you from home needto go over the Internet to connect ot it ..02:25
philsfJDShewey, arguably better performance...02:25
kdaskJDShewey: even if i have less than 4 GB ram?02:25
mutilatorah i see02:25
mutilatori dont know why i didnt try to do that before02:25
mutilator:P02:25
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; need to connect through the internet02:25
JDSheweykdask: yes, even if02:25
GillaGalJDShewey performance on what?02:26
simNIXPerryArmstrong, is posible; but only if you make it so the Internet can connect to it - then I sugested; if you make it so you can connect over the Internet to it others can also ...02:26
kdaskwhere's the 64 bit linux version of flash player anyone? ive searched like crazy02:27
simNIX... best use at home a normal mirror or have also one apt-mirror download at home ...02:27
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; the server will have internet connection and i'll put it on 24 hrs. if necessary...02:27
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; should the server be running all the time then??02:28
CFNinjaIs there no way for me to log in the terminal so that I have root without having to type sudo before every single command?02:28
Pelle112how do I check witch deamons are running?02:28
wgrant_kdask: Just go to a page that uses Flash, and Firefox will ask you if you want to install it.02:28
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philsfkdask, partner repository02:28
kdaskphilsf: what is that?02:28
philsf!partner | kdask02:28
ubottukdask: The Ubuntu partnership program is designed to encourage, recognise and endorse Ubuntu expertise and commercial initiatives. It is structured to foster a healthy ecosystem surrounding Ubuntu, to highlight those companies with certified expertise in Ubuntu and a deeper relationship to Canonical. See http://www.ubuntu.com/partners for more information.02:28
wgrant_!rootshell | CFNinja02:28
ubottuCFNinja: Using !sudo with single commands is preferable in most circumstances. However, if you really need a root shell, use « sudo -i » (other variants of this commands are redundant and/or potentially dangerous)02:28
wgrant_philsf: That's not the right factoid.02:29
kdaskthanks02:29
simNIXPerryArmstrong, Internet connection to grab new files is no problem; the risk comes if you make it so someone on the Internet can connect to it - that would open up a can of worms, that you dont have if at home you use another server to update / install from02:29
CFNinjathx02:29
philsfwgrant_, you're right02:29
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philsfkdask, wait a sec02:29
^Phantom2^Hey guys, i'm going to rant a little bit here (it's relevant to the chat)02:29
zetherooI thought Ubuntu 9.04 would be released by now ..02:30
space_cadetzetheroo, tomarrow02:30
simNIXPerryArmstrong, if you have a local dns at home you could point your desktop to a name that resolves to ubuntu mirror online, and at work have that name resolve to ip box with apt-mirror02:30
LjL^Phantom2^: it's most likely not, use #ubuntu-offtopic for any non-support topic (or for certain specific topics, you might be directed to other channels)02:30
zetheroospace_cadet: whose tomorrow?02:30
kdaskyes philsf?02:30
space_cadetzetheroo, jaunty02:30
jtholmeszetheroo, i doubt that the RC will change between now and tomorrows official release announcement02:30
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; i just wanted all the students of the campus have the ability to update from their homes through the internet..02:31
simNIXPerryArmstrong, why ?02:31
space_cadetupdate what?02:31
simNIX(sine its slower then a mirror close to them)02:31
simNIXbut its posible if a requiremnet02:31
simNIXvsftpd is quite save02:31
^Phantom2^omg ubuntu is so awesome!!!  i can't believe how easy it is to use!!  It is so much nicer than window$, and HOLY MACRO it is so good with laptop batteries!  Thank you so much for your support guys!!!02:32
jelly-beanwhat is the best app for comparing files in linux? (e.g. gui; developer tool; unified diff; with basic functions to resolve conflicts)02:32
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; we have many ubuntu users locally and they complain of taking time for updating packages from the other severs which are not available locally02:32
philsfkdask, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding Canonical Partner Repositories02:32
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; but what i am worried now is network traffic and you also mentioned there will be some problem if anyone else is updating..whats the problem..."you mentioned can of worms"02:33
Frijolieanyone familiar with claws-mail? I cannot send IMAP emails with claws + GMail02:33
^Phantom2^oh, and my other nick doesn't need to be here anymore, because it's just idling02:33
zetheroojtholmes: do you know what version of alsa will be in the final?02:34
Pelle112can I check if ddclient is running?02:34
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jtholmeszetheroo, no I dont02:34
simNIXPerryArmstrong - then apt-mirror dowlnoad of all files 2x a day maybe would be perfect on campus - just share out what it downloads over http or ftp and point every client to use this ftp/http02:34
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; are there any manuals upon this...??02:35
wrice_Pelle112: 'ps aux | grep ddclient'02:35
LjLjelly-bean, i've used kompare sometimes, i didn't mind it, but i have no idea whether it has the features you mentioned honestly.02:35
simNIXPerryArmstrong, you still got pastebin I gave you with how to config it ?02:35
simNIXthats all you need02:35
simNIX+ setup a vsftpd of http server02:36
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; yes i do have02:36
Frijolieit's complaining that a folder is missing "sent"02:36
Frijoliealthough it's there02:36
simNIXloose the lines I have for Debian02:36
simNIXinstall apt-mirror02:36
jelly-beanLjL: compare is good. thnx :)02:36
lighttitanMy external Harddrive won't let me put anything on it. I have no permissions on it. How do I set permissions for having write permissions on my harddrive? There permissions tab was not available.02:36
simNIXmodify in config directory you want it tot download02:37
simNIXand do apt-mirror02:37
kdaskhow do i open  a .so file?02:37
Pelle112thx  wrice_ :)02:37
simNIXit wil dowlnoad about 22Gb02:37
zakkkdask: .so files are like dlls02:37
zakkkdask: you dlopen them in code02:37
^Phantom^Now, I want to do more with linux than just chat.  My question now is:  what is the recommended bittorrent client for ubuntu?  I'm looking to use one that is similar to BitTorrent on windoze, but I prefer one that is simple to use, but not so simple a 2-year old can use it.  Any suggestions?02:37
kdaskzakk thats what i got when i searched for the flash plugin02:37
Frijolie^Phantom^, I use deluge-torrent02:37
kdask64 bit linux02:38
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Frijolie^Phantom^, or just "deluge"02:38
zakk^Phantom^: http://www.transmissionbt.com/02:38
^Phantom^Frijolie: thank you02:38
simNIX^Phantom^, the one that fits :o)02:38
^Phantom^i'll look into it :D02:38
simNIXTribler is maybe worth a look02:38
Kouanyone know how to fix missing aplication bars in Xubuntu?02:38
simNIXits founded by eu02:38
simNIXfunded02:38
lighttitan^Phantom^, I use Transmission Bittorrent Client02:38
^Phantom^I plan on -02:39
^Phantom^oh?02:39
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; Tribler??02:39
simNIXwas for ^Phantom^  PerryArmstrong02:39
PerryArmstrongokk02:39
simNIXa torrent cleint02:39
lighttitanHaven't tried the one Frijolie mentioned, you can look into them both and decide which you like better.02:39
Kouanyone know how to fix missing aplication bars in Xubuntu, someone decided to remove mine :@02:39
Frijolienobody knows about GMail and claws-mail?02:39
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; i have to install apt-mirror only on the clients??02:40
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; i have to install apt-mirror only on the server??02:40
Frijoliedeluge is a great light-weight torrent client02:40
simNIXno install needed on lcients02:40
simNIXno install needed on lcients02:40
Frijolieand they're always updating it02:40
lighttitanI think I will try it out Frijolie02:40
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; okk...02:40
simNIXonly on server that wil serve up the files to the clients02:40
philsfgenii, it appears the ppa version of a package doesn't have an Origin field to compare with, according to apt-cache show02:40
philsfgenii, the package in question is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/156257/02:41
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^Phantom^i have only booted back into windows once since installing ubuntu 8.10, and that was just to make sure it still booted, lol (if that means anything)02:41
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; so no need of apt-mirror on server its only for clients??02:41
MaT-dgFrijolie: what about GMail and claws-mail?02:42
thewrathdoes anyone know where i can just get the wubi.exe02:42
thewrathfor jaunty02:42
thewrathbc the RC for jaunty does not have it02:42
simNIXPerryArmstrong, on campus make it for instance so the ubuntu.campus.com (replace domain) point to ip box runnig vsftpd (shares out what apt-mirror on same box grabs) in /etc/apt/sources.list02:42
^Phantom^oh oh, i should have asked this in the first place:  does utorrent make an ubuntu compatible version?02:42
lighttitan^Phantom^ Welcome to Linux, it is a great OS. I have never been unable to get help on an issue if I come here. So just drop in here and the Pros(not me) will help you out!02:43
geniiphilsf: You use some lines like:  Package: *       and: Pin: origin www.debian-multimedia.org02:43
^Phantom^lighttitan: it's not great... it's AWESOME!!!02:43
geniiphilsf: But the repo name of ppa02:43
simNIXPerryArmstrong ... in /etc/apt/sources.list of clients you then set ubuntu.campus.com02:43
simNIXPerryArmstrong ... in /etc/apt/sources.list of clients you then set tp://ubuntu.campus.com02:43
Kouanyone know how to fix missing aplication bars in Xubuntu, someone decided to remove mine :@02:43
simNIX*ftp://ubuntu.campus.com02:43
lighttitan^Phantom^ Yes it is!02:43
thahaussHi all, I'm new to linux and trying to make my windows transparent, the areas affected when you change 'appearance preferences > themes'.  any help greatly appreciated02:43
FrijolieMaT-dg: I cannot send email via claws-mail (recently) it's complaining that it cannot be queued02:45
^Phantom^um02:45
lighttitanHow do I change the permissions on my HDD? I can't put anything on it.02:46
^Phantom^My media player window just went dim and grey, and I can't do anything in it...no message came up either.  What can I do to get it back?02:46
Kounvm, fixed02:46
philsfgenii, it worked, thanks. But I think the documentation is somewhat missing in this detail02:46
GhostmedicOdd question... I am the only user, but now guarddog won't work because I am not the supervisor... how do I become the supervisor on my own machine?02:46
arkanabarlighttitan, you need to google chmod02:46
geniiphilsf: Yes, sadly true02:46
doleybthahauss: maybe you should search about compiz02:47
lighttitanarkanabar thanks02:47
^Phantom^Oops, I forcequitted it...02:47
Burntresistori just dual booted my other hard drive and linux programs wont install , i used the installation process to resize the partition and dint size it in advance  could it be that02:47
* Ciros mutters at missing runtime02:47
doleybGhostmedic: sudo02:48
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; you have given me lots of info thanks...now i have to check on various things like setting up ftp..etc...02:48
GhostmedicDolevb: Sudo?02:48
Jak_o_Shadowsi got a big problem with booting. grub just doesn't work, whatever distro i use. When i just installed a deriative of ubuntu (opengeu 8.10), my computer wouldn't boot at all. didn't even get to grub02:48
RedMercuryHi, what time on the 23rd will jaunty be released?02:48
Jak_o_Shadows i installed everything to an external usb hdd02:48
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perturbedCreate a USB startup disk is absent in my ubuntu 8.10 ..how do i get it , please help .02:50
simNIXPerryArmstrong, gladely helped - vsftpd is an option or maybe lightttpd since ftp is a bit harder to let through risticted firewall - this is only an consideration if clients also need to be able to use same mirror at home over the Internet02:50
perturbedCreate a USB startup disk is absent in my ubuntu 8.10 ..how do i get it , please help ....................02:50
Ghostmedicwhat does Sudo mean? I'm new to linux.02:51
Jak_o_Shadowssudo is run as superuser, or root02:51
nate[oz]hey guys, what's the best subversion client out there for ubuntu?02:51
perturbedsudo gives your current user administrative powers02:51
thebackwashGhostmedic: sudo gives the command domain over you entire file system, whereas usually, if you run a command, it's restricted to your home folder02:51
kitche!best | nate[oz]02:51
ubottunate[oz]: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.02:51
kitchenate[oz]: umm subversion of course02:51
perturbedCreate a USB startup disk is absent in my ubuntu 8.10 ..how do i get it , please help ....02:51
etzerdHello all02:51
nate[oz]:/02:51
etzerdtomorrow will be the big day.02:52
GhostmedicHow? The program just informs me that I can't do much when I start it up because I'm not the supervisor.. unlike other programs it does not ask for a password or anything.02:52
etzerdany news about the 9.04?02:52
thebackwashperturbed: please ask a little less frequently.  if anyone knows they WILL answer.02:52
perturbedsorryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy02:52
perturbedhehe02:52
thebackwashperturbed: no problem :)02:52
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; so setting up this on vsftpd or lightttpd doesn't depend on the speed of internet on the server02:52
perturbedbut its an emergency :(02:52
SeViLLaetzerd: i dont know what does the website say02:52
hsinametzerd: hasnt come yet. today is the announced date though. keep checking releases.ubuntu.com02:53
etzerdI believe the said tomorrow they will release it to the public02:53
thebackwashGhostmedic: not every user can use sudo.  it is intentionally disabled for certain users.  i'm not sure of the easiest way to enable sudo on your current account.02:53
ohohh9jo02:54
thebackwashGhostmedic: this is intended to protect your computer from unwanted hacking attempts.02:54
thebackwashGhostmedic: it is possible to add your account to the list of users who can sudo, but the only way I know of is to edit a certain text file02:54
GhostmedicOkay... I'll do a websearch for how to enable sudu02:54
RedMercuryanyone? :|02:55
GhostmedicThank you all for your help.02:55
thebackwashGhostmedic: if you have to run a command as root temporarily, you may type 'su'02:55
ampzqloxrunning 9.04  uninstalled vinagre and vino installed tightvncserver - what can I put into rc.local? I tried su -c tightvncserver. I get a just an blank grid and an X cursor on my screen when I remote into it over the net02:55
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wgrant_thebackwash, Ghostmedic: You want 'sudo', not 'su'.02:55
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; there??02:55
Guest64560hey i'm trying to make a video showing many programs opened up...is there a way to batch execute every program I have?02:55
thebackwashGhostmedic: however, due to the power of the root account, it is recommended to use this very sparingly02:55
^Phantom^Okay, I can't seem to find this at all.  I've looked through all of the settings on X-Chat.  How can I change the color used for highlighting nicks that mention my name in the chat?  The yellow color is too bright for me.02:55
thebackwashGhostmedic: you may have to log in as root via su in order to add your current user to the /etc/sudoers file02:56
thebackwashGhostmedic: after that it should be sudo all the way02:56
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hsinamGhostmedic: system > administration > user and groups. select user properties, check administer the sytem option02:57
thebackwashhsinam: thank you!02:57
thebackwashhsinam: i couldn't remember how to do that through the gui02:57
zloogI AM HAM02:57
Ububeginisnt ubuntu 9, supposed to release today.02:57
Jak_o_Shadowsi got a big problem with booting. grub just doesn't work, whatever distro i use. When i just installed a deriative of ubuntu (opengeu 8.10), my computer wouldn't boot at all. didn't even get to grub. i'm installing it all onto an external usb hdd02:57
thebackwashGuest64612: Do you want a couple of seconds in between each launch to show them off, or do you want to launch them all at once?02:58
hsinamthebackwash: i didnt know either, but ubuntu pocket guide pdf has given many gui methods for simple things02:58
n8tuserJak_o_Shadows -> perhaps your mobo does not support boooting off of usb02:58
simNIXPerryArmstrong, am now ...02:58
MaT-dgUbubegin: yes, today is still yesterday in other timezones and today is 24hours long ;)02:58
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; so setting up this on vsftpd or lightttpd doesn't depend on the speed of internet on the server02:58
kitcheUbubegin: umm it's not even the 23rd yet for when Ubuntu is suppose to be released02:58
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thedusthello, i am attempting to dual boot ubuntu with vista currently installed, i was wondering how i could change my bios settings so that the computer boots from the cd02:59
simNIXPerryArmstrong, for clients on campus only the speed to the vsftpd oor lighttpd counts02:59
Jak_o_Shadowsdid u get that message?02:59
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thedustdoes anyone here know how to change the bios settings?02:59
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simNIXapt-mirror can be ran to update the files when everybody is home / Inet usage is at lightest02:59
OsamaKHello. I'm going to format my Ubuntu partition today to install Ubuntu 9.04 (I just want a new starting). What's the best: to use EXT3 or EXT4?02:59
UbubeginMaT-dg: Ah... I forgot the americans are still stuck on the 22nd..... :) ... so any ideas how many more hours to go02:59
n8tuserJak_o_Shadows -> you have an existing linux installed or this is the first one?03:00
studentzthedust: did you try wibi install directly form windows03:00
hsinamUbubegin: 2 more hours03:00
cfowlerIt is 10pm on Eastern Coast of US03:00
PhotoJimthe Canadians are still suck on the 22nd too (and prefer not to be called Americans)03:00
Jak_o_Shadowsfirst one really. it doesn't let me boot when i install. so effectively i don't have linux installed03:00
thebackwashGuest64612: You may make a text file containing the full path to all the executables (e.g. /usr/bin/firefox), with a space and a single & after each one.  separate each program by a return.  add 'sleep 5' for 5 seconds' pause after launching each one.03:00
PhotoJim11:30 east coast Canada, 7:00 west coast03:00
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; but i have to consider both...clients connected to the server and machines on the internet (home)03:00
thedustno i will try that thank you,03:00
Ububeginhsinam: Ok dokie... Its almost brunch time on the 23rd here (Singapore) ....03:01
lighttitanI can't figure out this chmod shit. Anyone want to direct me to a tutorial I can understand? I found one on google, but I can't understand it.03:01
studentzthe dust: usually when you restart your computer you should press del and you enter to the BIOS03:01
thebackwashGuest64612: sorry maybe i can post a sample way to do this on pastebin.  it's hard to explain, but easy to understand once you see it.03:01
Jak_o_Shadowsor F2 or something03:01
Jak_o_Shadowsshoudl com eup on screen03:01
^Phantom^LOL03:02
Ububeginlighttitan: http://www.ss64.com/bash/chmod.html03:02
simNIXPerryArmstrong, then a script at clients that checks somehow if its at campus or at home and set at home to use normal online mirror instead of the campus one will save the campus a load of outbound bandwidth03:02
lighttitanUbunbegin, thank you03:02
^Phantom^I unmounted my internal hard drive and a message at the bottom of the screen came up saying "this device is now safe to remove"03:02
lighttitanUbubegin, thanks03:02
andrewkkX11 is quitting immediately after it starts, but the Xorg log reports no errors. Where should I look to try to solve this?03:02
Ububeginlighttitan: One thanks is sufficient dude..... :D03:02
kitcheandrewkk: most likely not an Xorg issue mroe of a gdm/gnome issue03:03
picaboohi guys!  :)03:03
andrewkkkitche: thanks, I'll check around there.03:03
h8redhey.  are there any pdf editors for linux other than pdf edit?  for whatever reason, the menu uptions in pdfedit are not visible03:03
lighttitanUbubegin, I mispelled your name the first time, so I said it again in case you missed it. Didn't want to appear ungrateful.03:03
h8redprobably due to an nvidia issue03:04
tgrhas anyone here successfully gotten a refund for microsoft vista?03:04
Pici!ot03:04
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!03:04
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; yes but maybe if i limit it to only our campus students to update from their homes and not anyone else...it might help...but the question is how to do this??03:04
studentz^Phanton: there is a process running, System --> Admin -->System Monitor you will find which process it is03:04
Ububegintgr: proceed to #windows03:04
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; or maybe i have to request the department head to increase the speed03:04
thebackwashGuest64612: if you're still here, visit here: pastebin.com/m16d1a98e03:05
tgrUbubegin: who in #windows would request a refund for vista?03:05
tgrjust curious03:05
rocky_hello03:05
tgrthey are windows users03:05
simNIXPerryArmstrong, I gotta doze off - shutting down for the night ... a bash script at boot could copy a diferent apt.sources depending on where it -is - for how that I dont have recepy ready for ..03:05
lighttitanUbubegin, WOot, it worked! I now have access to my harddrives :)03:05
LjL!ot | tgr03:05
ubottutgr: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!03:05
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; thanks lots of help i got from you03:06
simNIXPerryArmstrong, with this puzzled out clients not use presious bandwidt ANd the cleints get best speed03:06
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Guest12594anyone here able to help me with a printing setup problem??03:06
^Phantom^okay03:06
Ububeginlighttitan: get that site bookmarked... it can help you with all types of linux commands..03:06
simNIXI hope the puzzle peices make a stable beasty :o)03:06
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PerryArmstrongsimNIX; i didnt get what you said..can you make it clear03:07
h8redI guess no other pdf editors for linux?  :(03:07
stealth-is there any way to get back a file i deleted from the command line (opps!)?03:07
h8reddamn03:07
PerryArmstrongtgr; refund??03:07
Caskey100For some reason Ubuntu won't print on my local Lexmark printer even though it is installed03:07
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thebackwashstealth-: try rm -W03:07
UbubeginSo does Ubuntu 9 solve the wireless/wired connectivity issue...03:07
thebackwashstealth-: it says it will *try* to recover the file03:07
Caskey100keeps saying it may be dissconected03:07
studentztgr: I know there was a case in the court in Europe and they gain so they refund something like $8003:08
thebackwashstealth-: if you can't get it back, take your computer to somewhere that offers data recovery services03:08
^Phantom^here's a problem i'm having with wine:  whenever i connect to a server with mirc (6.21) the program appears to close itself out.  What might be causing this and what can I do to get around it?03:08
simNIXPerryArmstrong, IF you figure out howto get clients at boot to have a different apt.sources depending if at campus or not will make clients not use presious bandwidt of campus when at home ANd that wil make that  clients get best speed03:08
stealth-thebackwash: there is no -W arguement in the rm command, according to bash and man03:08
ke_hello, I am new to linux, what is the best way to add a directory to the $PATH variable ? wish to add ~/bin03:09
thebackwashstealth-: oh, ok.  i'm not on linux right now.  sorry then.03:09
Stanlinhelp03:09
StanlinHibernation crash my computer, HELP!!!03:09
stealth-thebackwash: its all good, thanks for trying03:09
stealth-any one else know a way to get data back after its been deleted via the CLI?03:09
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Ububegin!ubuntu9.0503:10
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu9.0503:10
Ububegin!ubuntu 9.0503:10
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu 9.0503:10
simNIXstealth-, backups are best fix - else very dificult03:10
simNIXgotta go - latersssssssssss03:10
KingKimi!jaunty > ububegin03:10
ubottuububegin, please see my private message03:10
francisStanlin: www.apple.com/getamac03:10
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; the clients at home are the people who are going to work on Ubuntu development... so its not all of the students..its only those who are on the craze for Ubuntu who are a handful03:10
stealth-simNIX: it was from my backups :(03:10
thebackwashke_: open up (or create) /home/username/.bashrc, and type export PATH='$PATH:/home/username/bin'03:10
Webu!jaunty > Webu03:10
ubottuWebu, please see my private message03:11
^Phantom^it's really annoying, because it always worked in my virtual ubuntu maching03:11
^Phantom^machine*03:11
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; but then i want to moderate who can update??03:11
thebackwashke_: save and exit03:11
Matr|Xi installed server lamp but i want to unstall evry thing agine03:11
b14ckhey, i installed amarok on ubuntu 9.04, but it wont play like 90% of my music, worked fine on gentoo03:11
b14ckit seems like it doesnt want to play my mp3 v0 files03:11
Pici!jaunty > b14ck03:11
ubottub14ck, please see my private message03:11
b14ckany idea why?03:11
stealth-Webu: for future reference, you can message ubottu via the "/msg ubottu !factiod" rather than writing in the channel03:12
Stanlinfrancis: but im heterosexual i cant use that03:12
simNIXPerryArmstrong, if only a few use it from home dont open it up to the Internet - let them at home use a normal mirror -> much saver03:12
francisStanlin: u funnies03:12
eseven73is the apache2 config httpd.conf, sites-available, or sites-enabled?03:12
francisactually no u not funnies03:12
simNIXand faser for them03:12
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; okk03:12
Webustealth-, oh yes - thank you for poiniting me out.03:12
* coskund is away (Gule Gule (Cevrim Disi) | Bye Bye (Offline))03:13
stealth-Webu: np, lol, I was just messaging it and noticed you did it to :P03:13
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simNIXnight03:13
simNIXmornig already even - )03:13
eseven73!away > CoskunD03:13
ubottuCoskunD, please see my private message03:13
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; something interesting http://popey.com/Creating_an_Ubuntu_repository_mirror_with_apt-mirror03:13
Stanlinfrancis: well my laptop has quad core, 8gb ram, 1080p. Mac only delivers underdeveloped crap overhyped03:13
jimmy51_homehello, i have an hp scanjet 3970.  i run kubuntu 8.10 with GDM apps.  i can't seem the scanning apps to detect my scanner, even though it shows up in "lsusb".  what do i need to do?03:13
studentz^Phantom^ I haven't use mirc, but there are others alternatives open source, sorry I cannot help you :(03:13
OsamaKcalled some one answer my ext3/ext4 question above?03:13
KingKimii isntalled ubuntu by manual method.... and i RESIZED C to create ext and a swap and remaining of C ///// but my windows cant boot :( help me :( :(03:13
francisStanlin: tell u what, when your computer stops crashing on hibernate03:13
OsamaK* could :)03:13
franciscome back and talk to me  :P03:13
Matr|Xi installed lamp server but i want to unstall evry thing agine wht command to unstall evry thing03:13
Caskey100can anyone help me with the installation of a local printer???03:13
francisuntil then, just bury ur head in shame brother :P03:14
simNIXPerryArmstrong, that looks good03:14
Stanlinany advice on Hibernation??03:14
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; ya03:14
^Phantom^Actually, is there any way xchat can support mirc scripts?03:14
Matr|Xcan anyone help me with unstalling lamp-server03:14
tgrPerryArmstrong: http://equiliberate.org/?q=node/303:14
simNIXrealy gotta go - 415 am - and gotta go job hunting tomorow03:14
hal14450woah what happened w/ the chan switch there?03:14
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; can the server on hardy provide updations for jaunty clients??03:15
Matr|Xhello03:15
studentzCasey100  System --> Administration ---> Printing  click new and follow the instructions03:15
Matr|X!help lamp-server03:15
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:15
Madpilotubottu, lamp | Matr|X03:15
ubottuMatr|X: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)03:15
Caskey100studentz: I have tried that and it still won't physically print03:15
studentzwhivh printer do you have03:16
simNIXPerryArmstrong, yes - apt-mirror can grab any release - in this case testing if im not mistaken03:16
Caskey100studentz: Lexmark X269003:16
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; testing what??03:16
studentzCasey100 give me a minute03:16
simNIXJaunty = testing right ?03:17
Caskey100studentz: ok03:17
Matr|Xi installed it yestrday but today give me some error caz one file is missing or somthing03:17
andrewkkkitche: fyi, apparently xinerama was to blame. I'm not sure why there weren't any error messages.03:17
MadpilotMatr|X, asking questions in-channel is a far better way to get help than random PMing03:18
MadpilotMatr|X, also, pls be more specific than "some error"03:18
Matr|Xsorry03:19
Matr|Xi have problem now03:19
vincentpsp2what time has come ubuntu 9.0403:19
Madpilothave you run the error you get thru a google search?03:19
brianskiam i the only one having issues with firefox hanging (while displaying 'finished checking Xulrunner) after the latest upgrade?03:19
simNIXPerryArmstrong, I may be mixing it up with Debian - there not out version = called testing if you grab it with apt-mirror03:19
Matr|Xok03:19
Matr|Xnow im newbe03:19
mkassonI just set up my kids computer to dual boot Ubuntu and Win03:19
mkassonhow do I get grub to boot ubuntu by default?03:19
cirE1how do i run the update manager for new 9.04?03:19
hal14450mkasson, change the order in /boot/grub/menu.lst03:20
Matr|Xi installed this struff apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server   then i unstall it .. now i want to install evry thing agine but its wont install03:20
mkassonhal14450, do I have to boot from livecd to do that?03:20
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; okk...anyways i am on intrepid now...in 30 minutes i'll be on a jaunty after restarting my machine03:20
newcomermkasson, no03:20
mkassoncool, thanks03:20
simNIXPerryArmstrong, night m803:20
Caskey100Studentz: you still there??03:20
simNIXnice meeting ya03:20
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; good nite...sleep well03:20
simNIXty03:21
PerryArmstrongsimNIX; ya nice metting you too03:21
cirE1whats the command to update to new distro?03:21
hal14450mkasson, no but you'll have to edit the file using a sudo command like gksudo gedit or sudo nano /path/to/menu.lst03:21
KingKimi fdisk -l03:21
KingKimiCannot open /dev/sda03:21
KingKimi  how do i open /dev/sda ?????03:21
tonyyarussocirE1: Check the release notes.03:21
mkassonhal14450, no probs with that03:21
grendal_primeis it possible to natively play mac stuff yet?03:21
brianskiKingKimi: throw a sudo in there03:21
brianskisudo fdisk -l03:21
tonyyarussocirE1: 9.04 is not out yet.03:21
grendal_primesounds like a stupid question i know..im just curriouse is all03:22
studentzCaskey100 Yes, just searching the database in the linux fundation03:22
cirE1isn't the RC out?03:22
brianskigrendal_prime: what do you mean exactly?03:22
hal14450mkasson, just backup the file before hand so you don't doa  footbullet03:22
KingKimibrianski, thnx !03:22
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cirE1but yea it should be released in the next hour and a half03:22
_chunCan anyone help: I installed the latest Realtek drivers for my soundcard, but now the microphone jack refuses to work. How/where can I re-install the default sound drivers in ubuntu? (I'm fairly new to linux as a whole)03:22
Caskey100studentz: okay thank you I am also doing the same03:22
newcomermkasson, just change the line "default 0" to "default 1" or whatever ubuntu is03:22
brianskicirE1: the "RC" is out, but it is a candidate that failed to get elected - 9.04 release will not be the same as RC103:22
Matr|Xroot@xob:/# apt-get remove apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-common libapache2-mod-php5 libapr1 libaprutil1 libdbd-mysql-perl libdbi-perl libmysqlclient15off libnet-daemon-perl libplrpc-perl libpq5 mysql-client-5.0 mysql-common mysql-server mysql-server-5.0 php5-common php5-mysql03:22
Matr|XReading package lists... Done03:22
Matr|XBuilding dependency tree03:22
Matr|XReading state information... Done03:22
Matr|XThe following packages will be REMOVED:03:22
FloodBot2Matr|X: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.03:22
Matr|X  apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-common libapache2-mod-php5 libapr1 libaprutil1 libdbd-mysql-perl libdbi-perl03:22
cirE1oh thanks for the heads up!03:23
StanlinHelp me or I will ask for a refund!!!03:23
thebackwashStanlin: give me your paypal info.  i'll send you a refund ;)03:23
mkassonnewcomer, ah even better03:24
jatsHey, would someone mind helping me with mkisofs? It's not really the topic but I couldn't find anyone at #dvdstyler, and I'm pretty sure mkisofs doesn't have its own channel.03:24
grendal_primei just see alot of opensource like educational games for mac...it has been my assumption i would need a mac emulator to run them03:25
studentzCasey100: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-X269003:25
Guest64560hey is there a command to display all the programs that I may run from the terminal? for example if I have firefox, I can type in "firefox" in the terminal to run it, but some programs are spelled differently when run from terminal03:26
grendal_primebrianski: just wondered if some of them are...runnable without an emulator or vm type enviroment03:26
soldatsanyone notice the package build-essential isnt authenticated.03:26
Matr|Xhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/03:27
Stanlinthebackwash: stanling@commie.com03:27
Caskey100studentz: how do  use this information provided I'm new to linux03:27
jatsGuest6...:I03:27
dftis oOo 3 pkgd for 8.10?03:27
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studentzCasey100 It has two penguins Mostly works on Linux03:27
tonyyarussodft: yes.03:28
tonyyarussodft: You can get it from the PPA.03:28
studentzCasey100 click on CUPS in the gray box03:28
Guest64560jats: ..what?03:28
jatsGuest6...:I'm not sure you'd want a complete list, I would think on a system with many packages there would be quite alot. One thing you could try is type the first few characters, then hit <TAB>03:28
Fiuzahi there03:28
josh977I'm upgrading my laptop from ibex to jaunty. --I'm scared.03:28
dfttonyyarusso: ty03:28
Fiuzai need help03:28
Caskey100STudentz so that can mean it prolly just doesn't work w/ this distro of Linux03:28
Guest64560o ok03:29
Matr|Xhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/03:29
jatsSorry Guest, hit enter too soon the first time.03:29
mardukehellas03:29
Matr|Xhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/03:29
Matr|Xhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/03:29
Matr|Xplz help me303:29
Guest64560not working...I type in a few characters, press tab--> nothign happends03:29
jatsGuest:There probably is a way. I don't know of one, maybe someone else does?03:29
Caskey100Studentz its weird Ubuntu picked it up right away but just won't print a document03:29
studentzCaskey100: No, CUPS works for all linux distros03:30
jatsGuest: sorry, I should have said hit it twice.03:30
Guest64560o I see03:30
studentzCaskey give some time to help you I'm reading spec of your printer03:30
Matr|Xhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/03:31
h8redcan someone tell me why on certain programs I can't view the text inside the file menus?  i think this has something to do with the fact that i have an nvidia card.03:31
Caskey100studentz: okay thanks03:31
Matr|Xhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/03:31
Matr|Xhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/03:31
Matr|Xhelp me plz03:31
Matr|Xmy intrnset is dirty:S03:32
JECHOh8red: are you using a dark theme?03:32
jatsHitting it once works when there is only one possibility. If I type 'base6' on my system the only possibility is a program called base64, so 1 tab brings that up. Tabbing works also for paths (probably more useful).03:32
Yud_Zrocwho would like to try to fully convert me03:32
jduYud_Zroc: to ubuntu?03:32
Fiuzawhat's trouble Matr|x?03:32
h8redJecho no03:32
Fiuzawhat's trouble Matr|X?03:32
Yud_Zrocjdu: away from windows to linux in general03:33
Pici!ot03:33
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!03:33
Fiuzafaitz: hello03:33
* jdu goes to offtopic03:33
* Yud_Zroc does the same03:33
h8redI had to disable antialiasing or something in OpenOffice's settings to get it to work.  I'm assuming those same problems are preventing me from seeing the menu text in Scribus and PDFEdit.  Is there a universal way to disable antialiasing of text so I don't have to jack with it for every single app this happens to?03:33
StanlinOK I GIVE UP03:34
Fiuzah8red03:34
Matr|Xi sent the link03:34
Matr|Xi had install lamp-server03:34
Matr|Xthen i unstall it03:34
Matr|Xnow i want to install it agine03:34
FloodBot2Matr|X: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.03:34
Matr|X!ping $me03:34
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ping $me03:34
h8redyes  Fiuza?03:35
studentzCaskey100 here is the driver http://downloads.lexmark.com/perl/downloads/downloads.cgi03:35
JECHOFloodbot2 are yo ua person?03:35
studentzCaskey100: choose the first one03:35
PiciJECHO: Its a bot.03:36
Caskey100Studentz: okay03:36
JECHOPici: thats what i thought but after reading some of its messages i wasnt sure03:36
eseven73you'd think the name 'bot' in FloodBot* would tell you it's a bot :)03:36
joetheoddHey guys.. I want to use airsnort-ng to detect wifi passwords, but I'm not sure how to get raw wireless captures.03:37
JECHOjoetheodd is your wireless card capable?03:37
TheFunkbombjoetheodd, is your wireless card in monitor mode?03:37
JECHOjoetheodd only some cards are supported03:37
TheFunkbombrt73 FTW!03:37
joetheoddI think my card's capable. How can I test?03:37
TheFunkbombgo into a terminal and put in iwconfig03:38
TheFunkbombsee if it's monitor mode03:38
joetheoddTheFunkbomb, doesn't say it is. Do I have to enable monitor mode?03:39
TheFunkbombyes03:39
joetheoddHow do I go about doing that?03:39
TheFunkbombwhat card is it?03:39
vanja989im new here..i wanna make two difrent acounts for me and my mom03:39
vanja989How???03:39
vanja989But i want to limit her acssesing to my files03:40
TheFunkbombjoetheodd, what card is it?03:40
joetheoddTheFunkbomb, an integrated intel card03:40
vanja989i mean i dont wanna nothing to see03:40
TheFunkbombI don't think that's supported03:40
TheFunkbombI'm not sure though03:40
joetheoddTheFunkbomb, I've got a Realtek USB one03:40
joetheodd(also)03:40
vanja989what???03:40
vanja989:(03:40
joetheoddvanja989, type adduser <name> in a console03:40
TheFunkbombjoetheodd, I'll tell you how to do it but I take no responsibility03:41
jatsvanja989:readup on file permissions03:41
joetheoddTheFunkbomb, fair enough.03:41
joetheoddTheFunkbomb, I'm used to breaking my system. I'm on jaunty anyhow :)03:41
jeff__vanja989: creating accounts is done under the system tab. to change file permissions, right click on a folder and look under properties. just remember to apply your permissions RECURSIVELY.03:41
KingKimii use APTON CD to create an iso.... when i restore iso .... NOTHING got installed.... help me with this .........03:41
TheFunkbombjoetheodd, go into terminal and type "sudo ifconfig (card name) down".  Then type "sudo iwconfig (cardname) mode monitor"03:41
TheFunkbombthen finally "sudo ifconfig (card name) up"03:42
TheFunkbombthen type in iwconfig and see if it's in monitor mode03:42
jatsvanja: Also try TrueCrypt, it password protects files. I think in 9.04 there is an encrypted directory that is automatically de-encrypted with your logon password.03:42
KingKimihow do i add to grub ?? it says "You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again."03:44
KingKimihelp me to get permission03:44
ernakk3hi i need some help. i had xp pro installed, then put on xubuntu install with no problems.  now i had to reinstall xp so i put on xp home, and now i cant load into my xubuntu system at all, how do i fix this?03:44
ernakk3right now i'm using the xubuntu live cd, as the xp home didnt even detect my other harddrive which had drivers on it03:44
ernakk3so i have access to my drive which is partitioned for both xubuntu and xp home03:44
joaohi03:44
karstenernakk3: reinstall grub03:44
ernakk3actually neither my drives show up in file manager03:45
ernakk3under media03:45
ernakk3nothing shows up03:45
ernakk3so still reinstall grub/03:45
karstenernakk3: Sorry, I can't stick around, but that's your solution, either Google or ask channel.03:45
spenserHi, can anyone tell me at what time the release can be expected?  I'm helping with an install fest, and I need to get the images ASAP.03:45
ernakk3k thanks03:45
karstenernakk3: got shell skillz?03:45
ernakk3nope03:45
ernakk3total new to this03:45
KingKimiHOW DO I ADD lines to grub ?? it says DONT HAEV permision..... how do i get permission ???03:45
studentzKingKimi: to have access to grub you have to use 'sudo'03:45
karstenernakk3: Well, I can't teach you now.  But /proc/partitions would show any recognized devices.03:45
jeff__KingKimi: use "gksudo" if you're using a graphical editor.03:45
karstenernakk3: gotta split.  Laterz03:46
ernakk3karstem: ok cool, yeah i know some stuff03:46
hal14450KingKimi, sudo03:46
ernakk3bye03:46
S02B9Z7V40KUVJQQ"No, no, do the goldfish!" cried the hairy office secretary as the corpulent ex-celibate penetrated her pink-tipped globes and reamed his rapidly dwindling John Thomas into her soft-spoken honeypot.03:46
hal14450gksudo for a gui03:46
KingKimijeff, gksudo /boot/grub.list ?03:46
lolololoernakk3: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html03:46
vanja989i expecting for u to help me tmrw..Now is 4 46 here n  i got 2 go03:46
Mike94287What time is Jaunty coming out?03:46
KingKimijeff, i need a command to edit menu.lst03:46
Pici!isitout | Mike9428703:46
ubottuMike94287: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+103:46
tonyyarussoMike94287: #ubuntu-release-party for all such questions.  #ubuntu is for support only.03:46
ernakk3yeah that file shows exactly what my drives are03:46
ernakk3so it's there03:47
ernakk3have to mount it03:47
ernakk3anyone know how03:47
FloodBot2ernakk3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.03:47
jeff__KingKimi: no, use gksudo gedit (insert grub directory here)03:47
studentzKingKimi in a terminal type 'sudo + ther resty of the command '03:47
wyHello, anybody know how to download pages in a wiki site recursively?03:48
KingKimijeff_ thanks03:48
lolololowy google for wget03:48
wylolololo: I'm using it, but it stops at the first page with -r and some other options03:48
eseven73wy try DownThemAll maybe or Flashgot03:49
jeff__KingKimi: no problem :) ... if you're feeling hardcore, then read about the terminal on help.ubuntu.com or another such tutorial.03:49
lololololemme check the switches03:49
ErgyJBhello03:49
wyso I guess maybe the site is a little different.03:49
jedi06why isn't my cdrom mounting so i can see the files03:49
etzerdhello03:50
commodore256hey03:50
etzerdwhat's new today?03:50
KingKimijeff__, thanks for the tip !03:50
commodore256I don't know03:50
jedi06when i click on the cdrom it just doesn't do anything03:50
jedi06does it log what is going on somewhere03:51
lolololowy maybe the site is blocking your user agent03:51
commodore256type eject in your terminal03:51
lolololotry passing -U Mozilla03:51
evilhack02hello03:52
wylolololo: I tried. It doesn't work. It's just a trivial site. There shouldn't be any blocks I guess03:52
lolololowy what url?03:52
evilhack02a day for ubuntu 9.0403:53
studentzevilhack02: here 10:54 (11 hrs)03:54
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ZeroLuxslated for a noon release?03:55
evilhack02should compile 2.6.3003:55
evilhack02  the ubuntu 9.0403:56
slewhello, im thinking about using ubuntu, but i have a an hp laptop. the wireless is turned on or off by a button on a panel, not a switch or anything. will ubuntu work with my laptop?03:56
JackWat|Lapslew: button on a panel?03:56
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eseven73wy try wget --recursive --page-requisites --convert-links www.webaddressgoeshere.com   This will DOWNLOAD Everything on a site lol so you've been warned03:56
evilhack02should compile 2.6.30 delete bugs03:56
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Level15hello. something weird is happening on my gnome. WHen I open a new window, the mouse pointer moves to its center. I thought it was some accessibility feature I had accidentally turned oon but can't find an option related on gnome settings. any hints?03:57
jduslew, likely, yes.  You should probably google your laptop to see other people's experiences but normally things like that work.03:57
KingKimiwhat is "update-gnome"03:57
KingKimihow do i install it ?03:57
jduLevel15: mouse warping?03:57
Crash1hddoes clamTK see / detect viruses in .exe files?03:57
etzerd?03:57
KingKimiCrash1hd, YES !03:57
jduLevel15: you might find the setting for it in:  gconf-editor03:58
slewjdu thanks03:58
KingKimiCrash1hd, do a recursive scan of your windows drives and it will get good number of Exe.s :P03:58
evilhack02the solution is in gnome ubuntu 9.04 eliminates these bugs03:58
studentzshould compile 2.6.30-rc303:58
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evilhack02yes03:58
Crash1hdKingKimi: ok :) thanks just was wondering cause I put a drive in and is testing it now that avg had found but clamTK isnt seeing yet03:58
etzerdI have a Verizon UM150 Mobile Broadband USB Modem that I want to set up, can anyone here help me with it?03:58
Crash1hdits still scanning though03:58
Level15jdu: ok, let me check that03:58
jduno problem, I hope it works for you.03:58
Level15jdu: why on earth would it auto activate itself?03:59
KingKimiCrash1hd, updated clam ?03:59
studentzplus fix ubuntu bug # 103:59
Crash1hdit says its uptodate03:59
jduLevel15: probably, it was some how accidentally turned on.  I don't think mouse warming is ever a default.03:59
jdu*warping03:59
KingKimiCrash1hd, there is also avast version for ubuntu03:59
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evilhack02I think that bill  gates is gay04:00
Crash1hdCool :)04:00
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KingKimievilhack02, ;-)04:01
eseven73!ot | evilhack0204:01
ubottuevilhack02: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!04:01
bloufhi04:01
* misplacedme waves and whatnot04:01
KingKimiblouf, hi..!!04:01
bloufanyone know for when is jaunty planned ?04:01
eseven73!isitout04:01
ubottuJaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+104:01
evilhack02sorry04:02
bloufok thanks anyway04:03
tgranyone here use verizon usb wifi on ubuntu?04:03
perlooooooooohello guys04:03
schambersi am using ubuntu in a vmware instance and flash seems to be using an awful lot of cpu04:03
perlooooooooois there any way to read .wvm in ubuntu04:03
blouflast one, is there anyway to upgrade directly to jaunty or i'll have to make a fresh install ?04:03
space_cadettgr i know someone that used the sprint card in ubuntu using wine and the windows setup wizard04:03
schambersi installed flashblock, but it's still running sluggish04:03
space_cadetschambers, goto about:config04:03
space_cadetschambers, type ipv604:04
danihello04:04
tgrspace_cadet: thanks for the input04:04
jdublouf: the update manager will allow you to update to jaunty provided you have intrepid04:04
studentzperlooooooooooooooooo : YES04:04
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perlooooooooohow04:04
perlooooooooo??04:04
space_cadetschambers,    make the "disable ipv6 dns"    =    true04:04
bloufjdu, great, i guess it will be like every update right ?04:05
Guest46929I have a question, in SOFTWARE SOURCES, what should be checked in Third Party Software page???????04:05
Guest46929<dani> I have a question, in SOFTWARE SOURCES, what should be checked in Third Party Software page???????04:05
space_cadetdepends on what you want04:05
jdublouf: yes except it will have a slightly different dialog and it will take much longer...04:05
schambershow do i save once i am done?04:05
bloufjdu, i guess so04:05
space_cadetschambers, restart firefox04:06
jdublouf: depends on your internet connection of course.04:06
outbackwifi!hi04:06
ubottuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!04:06
space_cadetschambers, once you change it, a restart applies04:06
evilhack02ubuntu is a report of certain errors04:06
evilhack02beware of the virtual box looking for a patch I still do not find what I seek04:06
studentzperloooooooooo: install medibuntu sources, w32codecs, mplayer04:06
perlooooooooothat what i did04:06
bloufjdu, but what i really want to know is ... about ext4, it'll not make my current system a mess ?04:06
space_cadetschambers, just so you know, that will only speed up the initial "searching for blahblah.com"04:06
perlooooooooobut doesnt work for all the files04:06
evilhack02is cool  men  perloooooooo04:06
space_cadetschambers, if you are experiencing slowness still, look into the RIGHT WAY to use pipelining04:07
Guest46929I have a question, in SOFTWARE SOURCES, what should be checked in Third Party Software page?? because right now nothing is checked at all04:07
jdublouf: from what I read, it might cause certain problems, but I don't think they are serious, per se.04:07
space_cadetschambers, or ..... upgrade your internet service....04:07
schamberspipelining?04:07
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schamberswell this is ubuntu running in a vm04:07
schamberswith vmware04:07
space_cadetschambers, sending multiple requests at a time04:07
studentzperloooo; are you in 32 or 6404:07
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outbackwifiGuest46929: that would depend on what 3rd party software you want to install04:07
space_cadetschambers, lol...04:07
schambersfirefox is just being a system hog it seems04:08
perloooooooooZA04:08
perlooooooooo2104:08
perlooooooooo3204:08
bloufjdu, oh :( problems like ?04:08
outbackwifi!enter | perlooooooooo04:08
ubottuperlooooooooo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!04:08
fearthenofearI installed openoffice.org of which I cd into the directory and then sudo dpkg -i *.deb and it installed but it didn't show up anywhere....04:08
space_cadetschambers,  get virtualbox04:08
scunizievilhack02: what issue are you having with vbox?04:08
Spock2fhello world :)04:08
Guest46929which ones would you recommend me outbackwifi? im a noob04:08
space_cadetschambers, that is true... it is a system hog.04:08
schambersany good alternatives on ubuntu for browsers?04:09
jdublouf: delayed rights resulting in program instability in certain scenarios.  Some people reported kernel freezes on deletes in jaunty.04:09
pcjdu, blouf: I can't imagine one will be forced to ext4, will one?04:09
schambersthey dont have a chrome linux version yet do they?04:09
evilhack02must be broken in the Open Office package04:09
jdurights = writes04:09
r33tfux0rGood evening.  Is there a way to perform the special Ubuntu Server LAMP metapackage on ubuntu desktop or do you just install the components separately04:09
outbackwifiGuest46929: hard to tell, for example, I am using the array.org kernel for my Eeepc so I have the array.org repositories in there04:09
jdupc: no04:09
bloufpc : i hope no04:09
outbackwifischambers: look for chromium04:09
jdupc: it is an option on the alternate cd04:09
Guest46929im on a laptop04:09
scunizir33tfux0r: yes there's a couple of ways.. on cli tasksel lamp.. in synaptic there is a menu option to install lamp but you have to dig for it04:10
outbackwifiGuest46929: like they say, if you dont know what it is, you probably dont need it04:10
bloufpc, jdu : i don't want to format & make a new system ... i think i'll not use the ext4 :/04:10
space_cadetoutbackwifi, eee  FTW04:10
r33tfux0rahhh cool i thought it was a task04:10
r33tfux0rscunizi, thanks mate04:10
studentzperlooooooo: did you already install  libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2?04:10
Guest46929oki doki thanks outback04:10
space_cadetoutbackwifi, actually, asus FTW04:10
scunizir33tfux0r: if you look in synaptic for the tasks you'll see several things you can do.. no problem04:10
evilhack02EX4 is unstable I would not recommend04:11
outbackwifispace_cadet: whats an FTW04:11
space_cadetoutbackwifi, me?  asus M70Vm-x1   <off topic>04:11
pcblouf: so the upgrade to jaunty should be somewhat painless (<hope>)04:11
space_cadetoutbackwifi, For The Win04:11
bloufpc, jdu : do i really loose something great ?04:11
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bloufpc, jdu : s/loose/lose04:11
Patrick904Hello. I want to update from 8.04 to 8.10. If I backup my home folder and replace it in 8.10 will my apps, themes, icons, and other settings be as they were in 8.04?04:11
outbackwifispace_cadet: i was addressing my responses to Guest4692904:11
evilhack02gnome art04:12
evilhack02www.gnomeart.com04:12
CITguy-ArtemisPatrick904: they should, I would highly suggest that when you install 8.10, you separate / and /home on separate partitions04:12
space_cadetoutbackwifi, i was saying that ASUS rocks, and I have one too.04:12
space_cadet+2   CITguy-Artemis04:13
scuniziPatrick904: back it up just for safety.. when you upgrade the apps etc will also be upgraded to the latest version available04:13
outbackwifispace_cadet: oh yes!! i have two of them 701 and 1000 H04:13
pcblouf: without ext4?04:13
space_cadetniice04:13
syntax\has anyone in here tried installing Epson LX-300 (dotmatrix) printer on ubuntu and succeded?04:13
evilhack02 EX4 alternative is in the kernel04:14
syntax\i really really really need to have this printer work on ubuntu 8.1004:14
space_cadetsyntax\, sounds like my experience with a dell 72504:14
bloufpc, yes04:14
syntax\space_cadet: were you able to make it work sir?04:14
pcblouf: if you're happy with ext3, then no.  :-)04:14
space_cadetsyntax\, nope,04:14
scunizisyntax\: epson I believe is one of those companies that doesn't even look at linux04:14
space_cadetsyntax\, one of the only reasons i still have a windows partition.04:14
space_cadetscunizi, like dell and lexmark?04:15
pcblouf: and, you can always convert later04:15
evilhack02Linus Torvalds does not recommend it to work with a04:15
scunizispace_cadet: yep04:15
outbackwifisyntax\: i have used a dot matrix printer but not the epson model. I just selected generic 9-pin and it worked like a charm04:15
space_cadetoutbackwifi, my asus has "instant on linux"04:15
outbackwifispace_cadet: whats that??04:16
space_cadetoutbackwifi, proprietary splashtop04:16
bloufpc : oh ok04:16
scunizispace_cadet: syntax\ actually after googling epson might be ok.. for some models04:16
outbackwifispace_cadet: oh ok04:16
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space_cadetoutbackwifi, locked down no terminal, etc.  just web browser, skype gaim and music player04:16
syntax\outbackwifi: well i was able to have it working. but after i tried to shared it poof. i cannot print no more and even if it prints its all characters (useless characters)04:16
syntax\now it can't seem to work.04:16
studentzsintax: check this http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-LX-30004:17
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syntax\and googling doesnt give any decent answers04:17
scunizisyntax\: see studentz link above04:17
outbackwifisyntax\: a lot of times, just deleting and adding a new printer works04:17
space_cadetyeah..   if it worked before.  there is still hope04:17
evilhack02macosx someone knows if it can be installed on ubuntu04:17
outbackwifisyntax\: if youre the adventurous types, tailing /var/log/cups/error_log helps04:18
syntax\outbackwifi: did that for a couple of times already04:18
space_cadetsure. evilhack02    you can make ubuntu look like mac os X04:18
scunizievilhack02: in a vm.. maybe but it would be an evilhack :)04:18
ZephyrumHI guys, I'm sure this has been asked over 9k times, but I'm wondering if there's an official release time (not date) of jaunty?04:18
scunizino04:18
outbackwifi!jaunty04:18
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party04:18
syntax\studentz: sir there are no drivers available in that link to be downlaoded04:18
scunizisyntax\: but info should be there.04:19
evilhack02 yes04:19
space_cadetevilhack02, google   ubuntu leopard04:19
rayk_slandneed to disable all framebuffer stuff on start up including cute console fonts etc. How do I do it?04:19
evilhack02leopard04:20
scunizisyntax\: says that there is a ghostscript driver04:20
space_cadetevilhack02, you get a cool globalmenu  and splashy theme, as well as a nice gdm etc.04:20
evilhack02 no04:20
draeathI see 9.04 is out in 1 day. Should I put the RC on, or just wait?04:20
evilhack02 os  mac04:20
ChaorainI have Windows XP on a seperate hard drive that is raid 1(mirror). How can I mount it as 1 disk?04:20
outbackwifirayk_sland: if you have a line in your menu.lst turning on fb, remove it. its typically vga=791 or something04:20
fearthenofearhow do i install openoffice.org 3.004:20
space_cadetevilhack02,  install it in a virtual box....   otherwise you may have problems installing it on your machine...04:21
space_cadetlol04:21
space_cadetmac on a pc04:21
syntax\scunizi: im trying to download the ghostscript 8.6404:21
evilhack02install  my linux04:21
* scunizi wishes today would be the 24th and all the excitement will then be about the bugs in upgrading or unusual hardware quirks04:21
space_cadetit can be done, but it takes some haxx0r1ng04:21
rayk_slandoutback: that only disables it until the initramfs is done. I think udev brings it all back...04:21
scunizisyntax\: ghostscript is in synaptic..04:21
evilhack02 virtual box   OHHH  yes04:21
lolololoactually latest macs are pcs04:21
evilhack02:-004:21
fearthenofearanyone?04:22
draeathAnyone? I want to migrate back over to Ubuntu, but I'm wondering if I should go with the RC or wait another day.04:22
space_cadetscunizi, hey, i just installed the latest ubuntu, and now my screen says 'tty1'    can you help?     lol     <forseeing the future>04:22
outbackwifirayk_sland: on another note, i remember recomipiling the kernel to turn on framebuffer. you might want to do the reverse.04:22
scunizifearthenofear: you'll get it in the next release tomorrow.04:22
space_cadetdraeath, i got the RC today...04:22
fearthenofearahhh04:22
evilhack0204:22
evilhack02virtual box but does not support installing leopard04:22
fearthenofearalrighty04:22
cyber_tux90ih04:22
scunizispace_cadet: nope.. lol.. I'm running hardy right now on this lappy04:22
Jordan_Uspace_cadet, Is this the first boot?04:23
cyber_tux90IH04:23
space_cadetJordan_U, it was a joke04:23
draeathspace_cadet: I imagine things are mostly up to date? just the official switch-flipping tomorrow?04:23
syntax\scunizi: what to do after?04:23
syntax\:((04:23
space_cadetdraeath, yeah04:23
studentzspacecadet:  ctr alt f704:23
Chaorain!raid04:23
ubotturaid is Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID wto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto04:23
draeathspace_cadet: thanks04:23
scunizisyntax\: after insall of ghostscript?  install the printer again and look for a driver04:23
Spock2fhi channel04:23
fearthenofeardo i have to live cd install the new version tomorrow? or can i just update it somehow?04:23
space_cadet!hi | Spock2f04:23
Spock2fI not speak english04:23
ubottuSpock2f: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!04:23
cyber_tux90Hi spok2f04:24
KeypadHi, I have seam to lost my whole desktop after restarting the other day. I have no idea whats wrong, any one got a clue ?04:24
space_cadetSpock2f, u speak ??04:24
Jordan_USpock2f, What language do you speak?04:24
Spock2fPortuguese04:24
Spock2fIm live in brazil04:24
space_cadet!br04:24
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.04:24
Spock2fYeap04:24
pcKeypad: you'll need to be a bit more descriptive04:25
Jordan_UKeypad, What do you mean by lost the desktop? ( Can't see icons on the desktop, log in to a blank screen, can't log in at all? )04:25
space_cadetctrl alt f7 ?04:25
space_cadetlol04:26
Keypadpc, The Icons are gone, Cant right click, but all the panels are fine.04:26
space_cadetKeypad, open terminal.04:26
Keypaddone04:26
space_cadetwait.04:26
nmitreemy first time here04:26
carthikKeypad, try typing nautilus & in a terminal04:26
smilebootim sure this has been asked 10 million times. but does anyone know the time that 9.04 is being released? est preferably04:26
scunizino04:26
scunizino no no04:26
space_cadetno no no no04:27
pc!hi | nmitree04:27
carthikkeypad, nautilus (the file manager) is what manages your "desktop" - and it might have died04:27
ubottunmitree: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!04:27
outbackwifisorry dc04:27
nmitreeHi04:27
malvis there a way to get around the fact that windows xp will not install if there is an lvm partition on the disk?04:27
nmitreeevery one04:27
eseven73how do I add alias to .bashrc if it has quote marks in the command, such as watch -n 1 "netstat -tpanl | grep ESTABLISHED"   I get: bash: alias: -tpanl: not found04:27
carthikmalv, #ubuntu aint #xp :P04:27
Keypadcarthik,  I got [1] 746304:27
malvbut lvm is related04:27
space_cadetKeypad, if that doesn't work check your gconf-editor to make sure "draw desktop" is checked04:28
Spock2fspace_cadet : it is a sad comment on it, but I am completing my studies in computer science04:28
carthikKeypad, kill it and restart it and see what gives04:28
malvi am trying to get coexistence between linux and xp04:28
scunizimalv: yep.. put an old drive in the machine as a secondary and install to that.. wipe the current drive, install then reinstall ubuntu04:28
malveh, but i only have two disks and they both have lvm on them04:28
Spock2fis quite time that I stopped using IRC04:28
space_cadetmalv, good luck04:28
Jordan_Umalv, I don't know how, but given that distros like fedora use LVM by default it must be possible04:28
smilebootso no one knows the time?04:28
Spock2fI'm using Google Desktop to translate my Portuguese04:28
space_cadetsmileboot, nope.04:28
Keypadcarthik, I did that it just seams to pop up another file manager window04:29
outbackwifi!time04:29
ubottuInformation about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)04:29
scuniziJordan_U:  what does fedora have to do with xp installing on an lvm drive?04:29
outbackwifi!lvm04:29
ubotturaid is Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID wto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto04:29
space_cadetSpock2f, i had google desktop installed, until i rebooted and noticed that my integrated webcam turned on during the boot phase...04:29
eseven73how do I add alias to .bashrc if it has quote marks in the command, such as watch -n 1 "netstat -tpanl | grep ESTABLISHED"   I get: bash: alias: -tpanl: not found04:29
Ciroslol space04:29
carthikKeypad, hmm, okay.04:29
cyber_tux9004:29
space_cadetSpock2f, once in took google desktop off, it didn't happen again.04:29
carthikeseven73, you create a function instead04:29
Jordan_Uscunizi, I thought that he was saying that windows was being confused by the existence of an LVM partition, he asked if this could be fixed in any way04:30
Keypadspace_cadet, How do I check draw desktop in that config editor ?04:30
t0cableguyhi, i'm having trouble with amarok 2 on ubuntu 9.04 playing mp3's i am new.. so dont rail me too bad.. mp3 playback installed practically automatically in 8.10.. but no such luck with amarok 204:30
eseven73carthik, how do I do that?04:30
carthikeseven73, for things that are more complicated try writing a function instead of an alias in .bashrc04:30
scuniziJordan_U: yep.. windows is confused. won't install on a drive with an lvm partition04:30
carthikfunction myfunction { ...function here }04:30
space_cadetkeypad  /apps/nautilus/preferences/show desktop04:30
lolololoeseven73, if you need to do it an alias, the quotes can be escaped with \04:31
eseven73carthik, ok thanks ill man bashrc or w/e the man page is for it :)04:31
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studentzt0cableguy: Ubuntu 9.04 definitive release?04:31
t0cableguyno04:31
eseven73lolololo, hmmm you mean replace the quote marks with \   ?04:31
t0cableguyi got sick of waiting,04:31
Keypadspace_cadet, hmm I just ticked it and unticked it and it came back :o04:31
space_cadetKeypad, if it was unchecked, you will need to restart your session or kill and restart nautilus to get the icons and shiz back04:31
space_cadetlol04:32
outbackwifieseven73: create a file called eseven.sh paste this inside==> watch -n 1 "netstat -tpanl | grep ESTABLISHED"  and  chmod +x eseven.sh and move it /create symlink inside you bin04:32
space_cadetkeypad niice04:32
randomusrafter installing libdvdcss2 and restricted extras on my laptop, I'm not able to play DVDs, not that I could prior, but what's up?04:32
KeypadThanks space_cadet !04:32
Jordan_Uscunizi, Well I find it hard to believe that installing fedora would prevent windows from working, so again, there must be a way for them to coexist, unless I am misunderstanding the question04:32
lolololono, prepend the \ to the quotes: watch -n 1 \"netstat -tpanl | grep ESTABLISHED\"04:32
space_cadetKeypad, yep04:32
cyber_tux90end04:32
t0cableguystudentz, vlc plays mp3's right now though04:32
studentzt0cableguy  I tested the version one moth before and Amarok played really good. Advice wait for the final release.04:32
^Phantom^nothing beats the sound of a vinyl o/~04:33
Spock2fI saw now, now that the 9:04 will be officially released:) I use the default OS as 9:04 in the notebook has a 2 months in04:33
t0cableguyyea, tomorrow...04:33
space_cadett0cableguy, as long as you set it up right, everything plays mp3's04:33
Spock2fops, in brazil is 00:33 now :)04:33
scuniziJordan_U: I think we're coming from different ends.. I believe he had ubuntu installed with some of the drive using lvm.. then he wanted to install xp .. xp hic-uped because of the lvm04:33
t0cableguywell.. amarok is just crapping out on me04:33
Spock2fsorry for my bad English04:33
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ssm2017hello04:34
space_cadett0cableguy, havent tried since my fresh install... lemmie check04:34
Spock2fI read enough experience but it is impossible to actually learn English04:34
t0cableguyother than that everythings fine, cept for running separate x servers for nvidia04:34
eseven73lolololo, that worked thanks :)04:34
lololologood :)04:35
space_cadett0cableguy, and you expect THAT to work?04:35
pcSpock2f: English is pretty difficult language...it's not just you04:35
t0cableguyhaha04:35
t0cableguyit worked in 8.1004:35
space_cadett0cableguy, don't know if i like amarok's new gui04:35
t0cableguyits ok.. its shiny and pretty haha04:35
scuniziJordan_U: xp I don't think would have an issue coexisting with any linux install as long as it is installed first.. in most cases.. it's just the lvm that was in question.04:36
martinhy04:36
studentzt0cableguy: oh yeah, new xserver and nvidia drivers will take some time to work04:36
Keypadlol, I cant find a music player I like, because they all are missing shit I want.04:36
ghostfishKeypad: I have the same problem04:36
t0cableguyfor now i'm happy with the twiview and primary screen selection04:36
space_cadett0cableguy, well it seems it's going to take a long time to parse my library, so i will get back to you in about 5 min or so04:36
AK_DaveKeypad: language :)04:36
Spock2fpc : I've had years of lessons but never really learn it, all my teachers say that the only way to learn is experience04:36
AK_DaveKeypad: What is it you NEED that is missing?04:37
pcSpock2f: that's often true with any language04:37
morph3uswhen will be available jaunty for download ?04:37
pcSpock2f: English just has SO many exceptions to rules04:37
ghostfishwhat I'd like is something with iTunes like song navigation (all one big list, not folder hierarchy on the side) and support for queueing, but alas I haven' found it yet04:37
pc!jaunty | morph3us04:37
ubottumorph3us: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party04:37
xlandxWhat does this mean "Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to xlandx) from freenode-connect"04:38
scunizighostfish: check out songbird04:38
t0cableguyspace_cadet, i dont like amarok's new gui, cus they tore half the options out of it....04:38
AK_Daveghostfish: I hate the "one giant list" thing in iTunes.04:38
carthikxlandx, nothing, that is the server checking out how you connect etc04:38
xlandxOh ok, thanks carthik04:39
space_cadett0cableguy, oh wow04:39
scunizixlandx: it's the riaa checking your hd for p2p songs04:39
Spock2fI do not know how you see the Brazil, I probably do not know the world as you also do not know Brazil, the media in my view masks the reality of the facts04:39
space_cadetscunizi, xlandx and movies, games etc04:39
ghostfishAK_Dave: I like it becase then I don't need to keep popping open and closing folders to get at my music, plus I can scroll through and just look at everything, kind of like flipping through a magazine to look for things you like04:39
pcSpock2f: that's what the internet is for (maybe) :-)04:40
t0cableguyspace, is there any good alternative that works similar?04:40
DogBoySpock2f, less so than no media at all04:40
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space_cadett0cableguy, not that ive found04:40
space_cadetyet04:40
AK_Daveghostfish: 10,000 songs is a lot to filter through by hand that way.04:40
scuniziAK_Dave: he's a speed reader04:40
pcit's the google way.  search for everything, no folders04:41
ghostfishAK_Dave: I've got over 5k and don't really have a problem with it, just type the first few letters when sorted by artist if you want to find something, or use the search bar04:41
t0cableguyspace, i miss my simple dumb winamp... they always do it right and nobody appreciates it haha...04:41
space_cadett0cableguy, well...      chalk another one on amarok bugs04:41
AK_Daveghostfish: You can't search in Amarok?04:41
Jordan_USpock2f, This is a support channel only, try #ubuntu-offtopic04:42
t0cableguyamarok wont play my mp3's right now for some reason.. prob some bug with 9.0404:42
scunizit0cableguy: check out xmms204:42
space_cadett0cableguy, ubuntu-bugs amarok04:42
ghostfishAK_Dave: but you still have to deal with all the folders (or at least you did last time I tried it)04:42
scunizit0cableguy: or audacious04:42
space_cadett0cableguy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/36537704:43
Spock2fsorry Jordan_U, you are right, bye space_cadet pc DogBoy good day for all and congratulations for new release 9.04 :)04:44
M4d3Lhi. am looking for help to access my sd disk on my video camera. Here is the log when I plug my camera via usb : http://paste2.org/p/189774  but when I try to mount it I have this error : Apr 22 23:38:53 mdelisle-laptop kernel: [47309.910486] Buffer I/O error on device sdc1, logical block 004:44
space_cadetyep04:44
t0cableguythanks space04:44
Spock2fbye04:44
Kr0ntabt0cableguy: totem is pretty simple in terms of playing files quickly...04:44
AK_DaveM4d3L: What happens when you just plug the SD card into your computer's card reader slot?04:44
jh_ubuntuwho can use the "makefile"?04:44
t0cableguynaa. i'm looking for the support for large collections04:44
space_cadetAK_Dave, it should "just mount"04:44
M4d3Lits an internal SDD.04:44
Kr0ntaboic... I personally enjoy Banshee04:44
MindVirusI'm on appendix D in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578&page=11 and I'm getting errors starting pulseaudio. Please help.04:45
M4d3LAK_Dave: I cant remove it from the camera04:45
AK_DaveM4d3L: Whats an internal SDD? The camera, or the computer?04:45
MindVirusE: alsa-util.c: Failed to set hardware parameters on plug:equalized: Invalid argument04:45
Kr0ntabt0cableguy: have you tried banshee before?  http:/banshee-project.org04:45
M4d3LI have a JVC Everio SDD video camera04:45
AK_DaveM4d3L: Bad camera if you can't remove the memory. The 90's called and they want their camera back.04:45
Kr0ntabit's in the repo04:45
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MindVirusAny suggestions?04:45
Reformer81I'm trying to install the latest beta of Amarok (2.1), but I can't find anything with Google... how do I do this?04:46
pcM4d3L: when you plug it in, it doesn't do anything automatically?  are you trying to mount manually?04:46
t0cableguykr0ntab no, i'm new to the whole ubuntu and linux world.. just starting to figure out the apps i like..04:46
Kr0ntabOh okay.. yeah you'll like Banshee.. check out their website.04:46
t0cableguykr0ntab, most i already used in vista04:46
M4d3Lpc: it doesnt do anything automatic when I plug it. I only see some log04:47
t0cableguykr0ntab, its in the synaptics add/remove04:47
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Kr0ntabyup...04:48
t0cableguyso i'll have in in a sec04:48
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M4d3Lany tool exist to repair disk error?04:48
n8tuserfsck ?04:48
M4d3Lbecause on the camera I can see what I have record04:48
scunizi!fsck | M4d3L04:48
ubottuM4d3L: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot04:48
M4d3Lso data is readable04:49
pcM4d3L: not sure...I wonder if it has a weird format04:49
space_cadett0cableguy, hmm04:49
space_cadett0cableguy, banshee doesn't play mp3's either04:49
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PerryArmstrongcan anyone tell me whats the command to get xorg detect my displays and configure them04:49
lawlzfriesi wish to upgrade from debian testing/unstable to intrepid. I currently have hoary packages installed, but i cannot run do-release-upgrade, because testing/unstable is not in the meta-release file. I was wondering if i could change my dist to hoary.04:49
t0cableguyspace_cadet, ??04:49
scunizispace_cadet: it should.. with the restricted extras04:50
space_cadetnevermind04:50
AussieGuyive just cloned my ubuntu install and all other partitions to a new hard drive with gparted. If I want to boot from that hard drive, do I just load boot cdrom, chroot in and run grub?04:50
space_cadetit just took a time04:50
PerryArmstrongcan anyone tell me whats the command to get xorg detect my displays and configure them04:50
space_cadetscunizi, t0cableguy it just took a min04:50
matsuoHey, is the new version due out in 10 minutes?04:50
space_cadetscunizi, t0cableguy i was still reading my library04:50
t0cableguyspace_cadet, mk.. i''ve got all the time in the world.. haha04:50
space_cadetworks fine04:50
PerryArmstrongcan anyone tell me whats the command to get xorg detect my displays and configure them04:51
scuniziAussieGuy: you should be able to just boot to it without using a cdrom or anything04:51
t0cableguywill 9.04 update to the official release automatically?04:51
scuniziAussieGuy: provided you also imaged the boot sector along with everything else04:51
scunizit0cableguy: no04:51
AussieGuyscunizi: nope just cloned the parititions04:51
scunizit0cableguy: yes.. if you have RC now04:51
AussieGuythinking  of a way to change the boot sector of that hard drive and make it sda instead of sdb04:51
Reformer81I'm trying to install the latest beta of Amarok (2.1), but I can't find anything with Google... how do I do this?04:52
t0cableguyscunizi, yea i just downloaded it in the past couple days04:52
krammer_how can i install this jre-6u13-linux-i586-rpm.bin04:52
scuniziAussieGuy: if you cloned the partition containing the boot record then you should be ok as long as you put the partitions back on the new drive in the same order they were in04:52
matsuoHow much longer till 9.04 is officially released?04:52
scunizit0cableguy: you're fine04:52
PerryArmstrongcan anyone tell me whats the command to get xorg detect my video displays and configure them04:52
space_cadetmatsuo, we don't know04:52
t0cableguyscunizi, thanks04:52
AussieGuywell not quite....one small 5gb partition was missing04:52
outbackwifi!jaaunty| matsuo04:52
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about jaaunty04:52
outbackwifi!jaunty| matsuo04:52
ubottumatsuo: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party04:52
space_cadetmatsuo, give it a couple of hours04:52
AussieGuyand the swap is larger and in a different place04:52
n8tuserPerryArmstrong -> sudo ddcprobe04:53
AussieGuybut the main windows and main linux paritions were cloned04:53
AussieGuysame place as before04:53
matsuospace_cadet: Ok, thanks04:53
birdman99501w04:53
scuniziAussieGuy: give it a try.. if no joy then you'll have to reinstall grub04:53
AussieGuyand id chroot in to do that?04:53
outbackwifiAussieGuy: just boot from liveCD and edit /etc/fstab, /boot/grub/menu.lst reflect the new environment and then reboot with HDD04:53
AussieGuyfrom a boot cd04:53
birdman99501exit04:53
outbackwifiAussieGuy: oops mount the harddisk04:53
scunizi!grub | AussieGuy04:53
ubottuAussieGuy: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:53
PerryArmstrongn8tuser; there was some command that used to set the screen resolution automatically.. any idea about that04:54
AK_Daveoutbackwifi: What about 'sudo update-grub'?04:54
outbackwifiAK_Dave: never done that so cant comment04:54
n8tuserPerryArmstrong -> dont know of any that automatically adjust rez04:54
krammer_how can i install this jre-6u13-linux-i586-rpm.bin04:54
Flynsarmywhat's the difference between sudo aptitude and sudo apt-get? is there any?04:55
outbackwifiPerryArmstrong: infact the Xserver itself is pretty intuitive and automatically adjusts resolution04:55
AK_Daveoutbackwifi: I'd try to fix an existing grub before reinstalling it. Not sure what his boot problem is, but its an easy command.04:55
scunizikrammer_: where'd you get that? looks like an rpm not a .deb.. jre etc is in synaptic04:55
outbackwifiFlynsarmy: aptitude  is a curses based frontend to apt-get04:55
PerryArmstrongoutbackwifi; no itsn't coming up with that...04:55
krammer_scunizi, sun website04:55
t0cableguyin banshee can i used more than one folder for my collection.. right now i'm kinda a mess with my music..04:55
outbackwifiAK_Dave: i havent said anything about reinstalling grub04:55
AK_Daveoutbackwifi: He cloned over his drives, so if its Ubuntu then his grub uses UUID and those codes would be borked.04:55
scunizikrammer_: look in system/admin/synaptic and search for jre.. install from there04:56
krammer_scunizi, thanks04:56
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outbackwifiAK_Dave: just use blkid to get the  UUID of the new drives after he boots from live  cd04:56
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PerryArmstrongoutbackwifi; here's my problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1115684   and right now i have upgraded to jaunty04:56
scunizikrammer_: np.. synaptic should be the first choice always.. after that.. compiling from source or perhaps locating a .deb from a reputable source04:56
outbackwifiPerryArmstrong: sorry havent got a clue about Jaunty04:57
AK_DaveAussieGuy: Do you have a linux console on this machine now?04:57
lstarnes.2404:57
AK_DavePerryArmstrong: You need to ask Jaunty questions on #ubuntu+104:57
AussieGuyyep running on the normal ubuntu but not the cloned one04:58
PerryArmstrongoutbackwifi; it isn't about jaunty..the problem is with screen resolution that started from intrepid04:58
AussieGuywanting to change to the cloned one04:58
PerryArmstrongoutbackwifi; and still existing in jaunty also04:58
AK_DaveAussieGuy: Then it would be easy to do 'blkid' and compare those UUID codes with the ones in fstab and menu.lst04:58
pcPerryArmstrong: what does xrandr -q report?04:58
outbackwifiPerryArmstrong: in Interpid its ok to leave your xorg.conf empty04:58
PerryArmstrongpc, outbackwifi; can you check this http://paste.ubuntu.com/156304/05:00
deemohey guys! i just updated to jaunty, but my top menu bar for every maximized app is gone! It does this with bth compiz and metacity. Any pointers?05:00
alphaaquilaehow to proceede to move from 8.10 to 9.04 ?05:00
coder_When i start up ubuntu9.04, i get  a error/warning pulseaudio configured  for pre-user sessions, and my system has no sound,Could you help me?05:01
AK_DavePerryArmstrong: Thats a nice log of a mistyped command. The command you wanted was 'dkpg-reconfigure' not 'dpkg --reconfigure'05:01
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PerryArmstrongalphaaquilae; check this http://ossarchives.blogspot.com05:01
AK_DavePerryArmstrong: You also could have tried 'man dpkg' or even, as suggested in the screencap, 'dpkg --help'05:01
Junioroi05:02
outbackwifiPerryArmstrong: its actually sudo dpkg-reconfigure05:02
coder_When i start up ubuntu9.04, i get  a error/warning pulseaudio configured  for pre-user sessions, and my system has no sound,Could you help me?05:02
JuniorOla05:02
alphaaquilaecan you give a link for 9.04 ?05:02
* AK_Dave points all Jaunty questions to #ubuntu+105:02
^Phantom^hey05:02
outbackwifi!es| Junior05:02
^Phantom^in gimp05:03
ubottuJunior: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.05:03
bwmhi, I'm having an issue with my wireless not connecting on an Inspiron 1525 after u/g to 8.04  Some preliminaries here http://pastebin.com/m38edd7dd05:03
^Phantom^is there any way to copy pixels05:03
^Phantom^?05:03
PerryArmstrongoutbackwifi; thanks..i'll just restart and it if it has helped05:03
outbackwifiPerryArmstrong: np05:03
AK_DavePerryArmstrong: Just restart X. Faster. No reboot!05:03
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coder_When i start up ubuntu9.04, i get  a error/warning pulseaudio configured  for pre-user sessions, and my system has no sound,Could you help me?05:03
AK_Davecoder_: #ubuntu+105:04
outbackwifijaunty| coder_05:04
outbackwifi!jaunty| coder_05:04
ubottucoder_: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party05:04
mib_3qs0gmhi05:04
PerryArmstrongAK_Dave; how to restart X05:04
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mib_3qs0gmi need help w/ something... my system freaked on me, required a manual fsck05:04
mib_3qs0gmnow i'm worried about getting it back to normal, any help?05:04
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AK_DavePerryArmstrong: With Intrepid: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace05:05
outbackwifiPerryArmstrong: in your case, just start x not restart :)05:05
pc^Phantom^: copy what pixels?05:05
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outbackwifiPerryArmstrong: im assuming you dont have X running05:05
AK_Daveoutbackwifi: Yeah, thats safer.05:05
alphaaquilaewhere is source.list in the hd ?05:05
AK_Davealphaaquilae: you mean sources.list ??05:05
outbackwifialphaaquilae: /etc/apt/05:05
* AK_Dave doesn't have a source.list but has a /etc/apt/sources.list05:06
alphaaquilaethx outbackwifi05:06
PerryArmstrongoutbackwifi; i dont know anything about that05:06
outbackwifiPerryArmstrong: then you neednt worry05:06
AK_DavePerryArmstrong: X is the GUI. Do you have a GUI or just a big text console?05:06
bwmam I in the right channel for wifi help?05:06
PerryArmstrongAK_Dave; i have gui05:06
outbackwifibwm: not unless its inside ubuntu05:07
bwmhmmm.... I'm thinking it is05:07
bwmit worked before in 7.X05:07
outbackwifibwm: it still works05:08
AK_Davebwm: Your paste doesn't give any information about  your wifi hardware or installed kernel modules. Do 'lspci -vvnn'05:08
ubuntu9when is the new links to 9.04 going to show on the east coast05:08
bwmwill do05:08
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koolkartikIs Ubuntu 9.0.4 released?05:09
outbackwifi!jaunty| coder_05:09
ubottucoder_: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party05:09
ubuntu9needs to be!!!05:09
deemohey guys! i just updated to jaunty, but my top menu bar for every maximized app is gone! It does this with both compiz and metacity. Any pointers?05:09
outbackwifi!jaunty| deemo05:09
ubottudeemo: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party05:09
outbackwifisowe coder_05:09
AK_Davedeemo: #ubuntu+105:09
dadoyhi05:09
deemoAK_Dave: gotcha, thanks05:09
bwmAK_Dave see http://pastebin.com/m54e7dbec05:09
brand0conhow do i recover my nick password on freenode?05:10
anooptphai everybody05:10
Picibrand0con: Join #freenode and ask05:10
outbackwifi!hi| anooptp05:10
ubottuanooptp: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!05:10
anooptpi am new in ubuntu05:10
anooptpi have a sound problem05:11
outbackwifi!enter| anooptp05:11
ubottuanooptp: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!05:11
anooptpi had no sound for last 3 day05:11
AK_Davebwm: You have an Intel 3945ABG. It has good linux support. It should have loaded automatically.05:11
anooptpno mute in keyboard,alsa channel mix selected,sound card detected05:12
bwmhmmm....05:12
celthunderanooptp, do you have it muted (check alsamixer)05:12
anooptpno mute in keyboard,alsa channel mix selected,sound card detected05:12
outbackwifibwm: it is loaded hence the output of iwconfig; you just need to ensure you have the encryptions matched etc etc05:12
bwmAK_Dave - I went to the Dell support website - they mentioned that the wifi LED needed to be patched - I did that05:12
anooptpwen i use live cd there is sound05:12
bwmAK_Dave: but the LED light still does not come on05:13
bwmoutbackwifi: can you elaborate?05:13
anooptpcelthunderpls help me05:13
bwmoutbackwifi: ah, you mean the WEP & all that05:13
AK_Davebwm: Your paste didn't include what modules you're using. lspci -vvnn should be more verbose than that.05:14
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pcanooptp: what did you change 3 days ago?  :-)05:14
koolkartik:_05:14
koolkartik:)05:14
anooptpnothing05:14
outbackwifibwm: your wireless card is working. in fact if you run sudo iwlist eth1 scanning, it should show you the scan results. you just need to configure the wireless settings in your  network manager05:14
zerothisI vaguely recall from my redhat 5.0 days, finding an insane option to 'do not automount' a partition. (insane cuz I could barely manage to manually mount anything, why disable the possibility). Does xubuntu have a similar option, I'd rather not have an ntfs partition mounted without a good reason first05:14
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outbackwifizerothis: comment it out in your /etc/fstab05:15
AK_Davebwm: I think your kernel module is 'iwlwifi' and should be listed in lsmod05:15
bwmoutbackwifi: got iwlist: unknown command `eth1' (check 'iwlist --help').05:15
anooptpany help05:15
thebackwashThe evening hangs beneath the moon05:16
thebackwashA silver thread on darkened dune05:16
thebackwashWith closing eyes and resting head05:16
thebackwashI know that sleep is coming soon05:16
thebackwashUpon my pillow, safe in bed05:16
FloodBot2thebackwash: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.05:16
thebackwashA thousand pictures fill my head05:16
outbackwifibwm: that command works for me (ubuntu 8.10)05:16
outbackwifibwm: what exactly did you type?05:17
AK_Davebwm: Oh, wait. You have the ethernet cable plugged in, right?05:17
zerothisoutbackwifi: and it will not ever come back, unless I uncomment it?05:17
bwmconfirmed it's in lsmod05:17
outbackwifizerothis: yes05:17
bwmAK_Dave: yep, otherwise I would not be IRC05:17
Lartza_Do usb wlan adapters and repeaters break often?05:18
AK_Davebwm: And thats why your wireless isn't connecting to your router.05:18
bwmAK_Dave: ts from the machine, maybe should have mentioned that05:18
Lartza_OR are they long term solution?05:18
outbackwifiAK_Dave: i dont think thats correct at all; these two arent related05:18
zerothisoutbackwifi: cool, thanks05:18
will__yo05:18
AK_Daveoutbackwifi: I've never had Network Manager allow me to have a wifi connection on my laptops if I have a wired ethernet connection.05:19
outbackwifiAK_Dave: funny, i have it all  the time05:19
outbackwifiAK_Dave: though you have to have the two on separate networks05:19
jh_ubuntui have some problemd05:19
agshi05:20
jh_ubuntuabout klm05:20
AK_Daveoutbackwifi: If both are auto and connecting to the same router... no workie.05:20
outbackwifiAK_Dave: how else would you be able to run hostapd etc?05:20
paul68AK_Dave: I work with wifi and it works like a charm on my laptop05:20
outbackwifiAK_Dave: what wont work is the routing but association with router, no problem05:20
outbackwifibwm: in any case, when you click on network manager do you see a list of access points?05:21
syntax\outbackwifi: i was able to make it work05:21
syntax\wee05:21
outbackwifisyntax\: the printer?05:21
Z3ro3XWhat time zone is 9.04 being released on?05:21
outbackwifisyntax\: what did you do?05:21
syntax\yes05:21
syntax\did an update05:21
syntax\then downloaded a stand alone driver05:22
AK_Daveoutbackwifi: haven't tried it since hardy. used to be I'd have a wireless connection, plug the cable in, and wireless would drop and I'd pick back up with a wired connection with a short delay.05:22
bwmoutbackwifi: I see the Wired Network, Connect to 802.1X protected... , and Manual config05:22
Anacranom tried to add a network printer shared on a windows box- received message- "There were no print shares found.  Please check that the Samba service is marked as trusted in your firewall configuration. To do this, select System->Administration->Firewall from the main menu." But there is no "Firewall" there, and i edited the menu and there's no option to add it, anyone know where this is?05:22
outbackwifibwm: when you right-click is 'Enable Wireless' checked?05:22
Lartza_i can't find wireless repeaters anywhere on net and i don't even know what is it in my language :S05:23
coder_how can i enter the room ubuntu+105:23
zerothisoutbackwifi: so what if its not in /etc/fstab/?05:23
AK_Davecoder_: /join #ubuntu+105:23
outbackwificoder_: just type /join #ubuntu+105:23
bwmoutbackwifi: it has Enable Networking checked - only option05:23
coder_thanks05:23
outbackwifibwm: huh? no wireless at all? then back to square one. Your wireless card is not enabled... :)05:24
celthunderlalrtza you can get a repeater by buying one of those cheap linksys wrt54gs they call a "router" and flash it with dd-wrt and then itll have reapeater mode (not e it also supposedly has vlans and other stuff though how you can have a vlan in a router which would kind of defeat the purpose of a router (broadcast domains..) and make it more of a switch (collision domain divider) not sure...though the repeater thing works cause im using one right now for05:24
celthunder that05:24
racecar56bye05:24
zhanxafter much effort my optical output is working on my razor card05:24
bwmoutbackwifi: yeah, I've been going through various forums on the web, and trying things, but no cigar, hence my presence ;)05:24
space_cadetarrgh05:25
paul68outbackwifi: could it be that his wifi driver is in the restricted hardware driver list?05:25
AK_Davebwm: But iwlwifi should have been loaded and enabled from the start. Should have been you just L-click the nm-applet icon, click your network name, and connect.05:25
jtthso i have a question: where the hell is 9.0405:25
philsfis there a way to make network-manager set up network connections before login? including protected wifi ones?05:25
AK_Davejtth: /join #ubuntu+105:26
tritiumjtth: easy there, please05:26
paul68!jaunty05:26
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party05:26
overshardWhile using my USB Audia DAC/AMP why am i getting this error when using alsa "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback." and it works fine on oss o.O05:26
AK_Davephilsf: That would not be secure.05:26
Lux215Hi, I am using Ubuntu 8.10, sort of new to it, and am using AWN, so I have no need for the top gnome panel, how do I delete it completely?05:26
sara_I have a problem in gnome where I changed a resoultion setting and my display is now garbled , same on reboot , went to /etc/X11 and looked at xorg.conf but there was to of them , because i installed ati fglrx one was called that and one xorg.failsafe (none called backup)05:26
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bwmthis would be a lot easier if I knew what I was doing :D05:26
dadoyexit05:26
pcLux215: right click -> Delete Panel ?05:26
celthunderlux215 right click on it and go to delete05:26
sara_and now i trie dthe command cp xorg.failfe over the xorg.fglrx and it took but did not correct05:27
celthunderpc beat me to it lol05:27
pccelthunder: great minds...05:27
philsfAK_Dave, I disagree. Do you know how can I do it?05:27
Lux215Works for all of the panels except the very last one...05:27
AK_Davesara_: Is it possible that fglrx doesn't properly support your hardware?05:27
Lux215I don't want to hide it, I want a cleaner look.05:27
sara_now i have 2 of the same can I reinstall xorg.conf ? to get it back to the way I had it before fglrx attempt ?05:27
celthunderlux215 go into the disettings menu under applications and go to panel05:28
AK_Davesara_: You could 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to reverse it.05:28
celthunderLux215, you can resize,move, and change your panels look from there05:28
paul68where can you find the mails stored in thunderbird?05:28
paul68on the harddrive05:28
sara_AK_Dave thanks a million05:28
josh977God, I hate ATI05:28
celthunderjosh977, why?05:28
sara_AK_Dave I had to come to kde to type eher05:28
sara_here05:29
Lux215celthunder where do I find the disettings menu05:29
Lux215i'm sort of new to this05:29
celthunderLux215, under applications...05:29
sara_can I do it here within KDE , dumb question I know05:29
josh977Work issued laptop with ATI. Everything at my work has ATI. Always have problems with it on Linux.05:29
celthundersara yes you can open a terminal05:29
sara_thx05:29
outbackwifipaul68:  .thunderbird/default.qre/Mail/  where default.qre is the profile folder (yours could be different)05:29
celthunderjosh977, my stuff works fine...though i have an nvidia chipset motherboard ati graphics card....05:29
Lux215Celthunder... I don't have an applications button05:29
Lartza_I am wondering is lan that bad to penetrate eg. walls?05:30
paul68outbackwifi: thanks05:30
sara_"  Use kernel framebuffer device interface? "05:30
celthunderLartza_, what?05:30
AK_Davebrb, 2yo peed on me05:30
ipodman715lol05:30
ubuntunoobneedinmy package manage says i have thunderbird installed but i cannot find it where would it be05:30
Lartza_I have an apartment about...10 meters long and wlan can't reach from side to side05:30
celthunderLux215, look around in your system menu then05:30
outbackwifiubuntunoobneedin: Applications->Internet05:30
Lartza_And I just found out its cheapest to move my router to middle of apartment and buy 3 wlan adapters05:31
paul68AK_Dave: you should use diapers for this matter ;-)05:31
celthunderLartza_, your nic is broken or your wireless router is05:31
sara_AK_Dave "  Use kernel framebuffer device interface? "05:31
outbackwifiLartza_: that really sucks05:31
AK_Davepaul68: 2yo, training05:31
outbackwifisara_: hes gone to clean up05:31
sara_AK_Dave  is the question it asks05:31
bwmoutbackwifi: ok, so punt?05:31
AK_Davesara_: sure05:31
paul68AK_Dave: training to be clean I get it same problem here hehehe05:31
Lux215Celthunder no disettings05:31
celthunderLux215, look in system/administration then if you are in gnome itsp robably under that05:32
Lartza_Well was this when I had my ZyXel... now I have Wippies box which is basically modified Bewan05:32
mrjohnsIs 9.04 released ? 23 is the date, but I don't see anything on the page.05:32
AK_DaveLartza_: install dd-wrt on wifi router, boost the output to max legal.05:32
pragad7hello drivers problem(i guess) cannot enabel desktop effects. no dricvers are to be found in system>administration>hardware drivers05:32
sara_okay so now its done and so gnome should be back to baseline if i reboot ?05:32
meshuggah_in how many hours, 9.04 will be stable?05:32
Lartza_AK_Dave: It isn't made for my box sadly :(05:32
paul68!jaunty05:33
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party05:33
zhanxlike meshuggah_ ubuntu+105:33
Lux215Celthunder when i go into gconf-editor i have found where the panel is, it won't let me delete it05:33
AK_DaveLartza_: naughty router05:33
Lartza_I've looked into that dd-wrt thing05:33
sara_thanks a million IRC gods and goddesses !!!05:33
Lartza_And also I coudln't change after next fall05:33
AK_Davesara_: It works now, right?05:33
celthunderLartza_, use it...though some of the functions it puts on i doubt work.05:33
celthunderLux215, why not?05:33
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pragad7hello anyone anything about not being able to enable desktop effeects05:34
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pragad7help please05:34
Lux215celthunder not sure... press delete, nothing, right click, no option to delete.05:34
Lartza_but should router get 10 meter and through 4-6 walls?05:34
paul68!ask |pragad705:34
ubottupragad7: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)05:34
AK_DaveLartza_: Mine does05:34
TetracommI'm writing an article about old computers on my website, and about how Ubuntu can be beneficial to poor people that can't afford to upgrade their old computers.05:34
Lartza_Hmm...05:34
Tetracomm:)05:34
celthunderLartza_, yes im going through 3 floors and im doing just fine05:34
KShoa que horas sale el ubuntu nuevo??05:34
Lartza_then the usb adapters could have been bad too05:35
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AK_DaveLartza_: You could mod the antennae.05:35
Lartza_some a-link first without and then with antennas didnt work05:35
bwmhey, how come there's no releases planned beyond 9.04?05:35
Lartza_what about this? usb or pci?05:35
AK_Davebwm: They are planned.05:35
Lux215i've been on multiple forums looking for an answer... looks like this one hasn't been solved yet...05:36
paul68!es | KSHo05:36
ubottuKSHo: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.05:36
bwmAK_Dave: cool!05:36
testbox_jauntyis jaunty out yet anyone?05:36
paul68!jaunty05:36
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party05:36
Xiaopi[work]it's today already?05:36
AK_Davebwm: 9.10 is planned for Oct of this year. Karmic Koala ??05:37
Xiaopi[work]omg i didn't feel theses 6months at all ~~05:37
pragad7any drivers compatibility expert here05:38
pragad7intel 945g ???05:38
joserodrigohello...  please some help with wireless problem on 9.0405:38
pragad7u got 9.04 how05:39
paul68joserodrigo: go to #ubuntu+105:39
joserodrigothe beta.. but updated every day05:39
* outbackwifi gotta go05:39
legolaswHi05:39
cweagansany idea what time the new Ubuntu release is coming out tomorrow? (and in what time zone?)05:39
legolaswAnyone know when will 9.04 release? I mean how much more hours?05:39
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pragad7!jaunty ubottu05:40
paul68!jaunty |cweagans05:40
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about jaunty ubottu05:40
ubottucweagans: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party05:40
ussercweagans, even if it comes out tomorrow, you wont be able to upgrade, all server will be on their knees :)05:40
celthundercweagans, its the 23rd so its out already05:41
cweagansusser: perhaps bit torrent would be a better alternative?05:41
laburdHi ubuntu05:41
laburd9.04 rules05:41
cweaganscelthunder: it's the 23 for you.....still 22 for me05:41
ussercweagans, apt-p2p05:41
bijitone quick question... the meneu bar is missing in some of thr apps.. like synaptic and pidginn05:41
cweagansusser: don't have a working installation right now :(05:41
user5nerr05:41
user5nero05:41
laburdIm running 9.04 right now05:42
ussercweagans, no worries then, torrents are damn fast, i cant use it though, torrent is throttled here :)05:42
user5internet05:42
BladeNBrocadeapt-p2p?05:42
laburdWill I have to reinstall when the Final version comes out05:42
TetracommHas anyone here already written about the benefits of using Ubuntu on a website?05:42
BladeNBrocadereally?05:42
legolaswlaburd, where you get 9.04? It is not released yet.05:42
paul68laburd: release candidate or final version?05:42
cweagansTetracomm: you mean as a webserver? or the benefits of using Ubuntu as an OS?05:42
bijitrc05:42
usserBladeNBrocade, yep05:42
lstarneslegolasw: there are release candidates out05:42
BladeNBrocadeusser: awesome,, would need to check that...05:43
TetracommAs an OS, cweagans.05:43
legolaswRCs not the FCS05:43
lstarneslegolasw: however, it is probably best to wait for the final release05:43
user5nro 705:43
user5nero 705:43
cweagansTetracomm: I'm sure it's been done, if not for Ubuntu, then for Linux in general05:43
user5buy05:43
BladeNBrocadeusser: you know.. they say torrents are responsible for atLEAST 30% of internet traffic,,05:43
space_cadetbull05:43
space_cadetit's more around 50-6005:44
usserBladeNBrocade, nah, its porn... and not 30, 90%05:44
laburdIt is release candidate05:44
BladeNBrocadei said atLEAST05:44
laburdIf you download release candidate05:44
AK_Davespace_cadet: 50-60% is what I'd believe05:44
laburdit will update to 9.04 final automatically05:44
space_cadetWas scheduled for Apr, 25, 00:30 (Samoa time)05:44
space_cadetkeeps getting delayed an hour05:44
TetracommI know, but I want to find someone with that who I can exchange links with.05:44
wanglunhello05:44
BladeNBrocadeusser: i mean protocol wise not like demographs05:44
space_cadetnow it's up to 2:00 am05:44
space_cadetthe 25th05:45
Anacranom tried to add a network printer shared on a windows box- received message- "There were no print shares found.  Please check that the Samba service is marked as trusted in your firewall configuration. To do this, select System->Administration->Firewall from the main menu." But there is no "Firewall" there, and i edited the menu and there's no option to add it, anyone know where this is?05:45
wangluni am a new one05:45
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BladeNBrocadeit can very well be 30 - 50 % of that torrent traffic is for downloading pron =)05:45
celthunderAnacranom, iptables -a should i believe list your firewall rules just look at that05:45
wanglunhow about all of you ?05:45
lstarnesAnacranom: in that case it might not need to be marked as tristed05:45
BladeNBrocadeno05:45
BladeNBrocadeits iptables -L05:45
celthunderBladeNBrocade, thanks :) figured someone would correct me if i got it wrong05:46
lstarnesAnacranom: if that fails, sudo iptables -L05:46
wanglunok i need develop oj , so i want to use QT05:46
BladeNBrocadeno probem -a is to append a rule .. so that will fail05:46
Anacranomlstarnes, the error says where to change it, but it's not there?05:46
BladeNBrocadewithout the rest of the arguments ofcourse =)05:46
David_hello05:46
David_when is 9.04 coming out?05:47
celthunderBladeNBrocade, then he will need iptables -a for the next part :) turns out im 1/4 useful :)05:47
lstarnesAnacranom: it might be a different issue, like samba or the windows box being misconfigured05:47
paul68!jaunty05:47
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party05:47
BladeNBrocadecool beans05:47
lstarnesDavid_: sometime within the next 24 hours05:47
David_lstarnes, not at midnight of a specific timezone?05:47
pragad7 i am unable to turn on the desktop effects in ubuntu intrepid ibex05:47
Anacranomlstarnes, there is no System>Administration>Firewall...05:48
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: which do u like better iptables vs ipfw...05:48
lstarnesAnacranom: then ignore that particular part of the message05:48
BladeNBrocadeeww GUI firewall management ::earls::05:48
pragad7  i am unable to turn on the desktop effects in ubuntu intrepid ibex.plese help05:48
Shaan7pragad7: which graphics card you have ?05:48
BladeNBrocadepragad7: is ur video card capable?05:48
Anacranomlstarnes, um... so its a bug?05:49
celthunderBladeNBrocade, never used ipfw...cant compare them05:49
wanglunwho know QT ? and please give me some introduce thank you05:49
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pragad7shaan7 it is intel945g05:49
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Shaan7wanglun: please visit #qt or #kde05:49
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: ah cool,, i kinda like ipfw better but i dont say that @ work.. might get mobbed05:49
ubuntu9its not out yet05:49
lstarnesAnacranom: the message may have been written for a different distro or it may assume that a graphical firewall manager is installed05:50
pragad7bladenbrocade graphics card is intel945g05:50
Anacranomlstarnes, if its in the image but is incorrect...05:50
celthunderBladeNBrocade, hang on let me google it and look at it maybe ill give it a chance...the only people iw ork with think im nuts cause i dont use windows05:50
BladeNBrocadepragad7: i saw05:50
lstarnesAnacranom: it's not necessarily a bug05:50
celthunderBladeNBrocade, so im not likely to get mobbed more than i already am05:50
Shaan7pragad7: try installing Compiz Config Settings Manager (ccsm) from synaptic and see if you can activate desktop effects using that ...05:50
SunnyDPhey guys, had 9.04 een released ?05:50
lstarnesSunnyDP: not yet05:50
legolaswIs it possible to clone an installed ubuntu from one machine to another?05:51
legolaswfor example from my desktop to my laptop?05:51
AK_Davelegolasw: yes05:51
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SunnyDPlstarnes: ok thanks brother, do you know what time GMT ?05:51
legolaswCan it reconfigure itself with new hardware?05:51
AK_Davelegolasw: But you don't always want to. Especially if the hardware is different.05:51
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: oh its cool,, i just like the syntax alot,, its the base firewall on FreeBSD,, which i was forced to learn,, my job is all RHEL/AIX/HP-UX05:51
lstarnesSunnyDP: I don't think anyone does05:51
celthunderlegolasw, yes05:51
wanglundoes anybody know oj ?05:51
SunnyDPlstarnes: LOL :D05:51
BladeNBrocadewanglun: simpson?05:52
celthunderBladeNBrocade, ah.  Where do you work05:52
SunnyDPBladeNBrocade: RHEL/AIX/HP-UX --> Lucky you :D05:52
grendal_primeis gutsy nolonger support of something?05:52
legolaswis there some tutorial for clonning? how to do it fast and easy...?05:53
lstarnesgrendal_prime: I think its support ended this month05:53
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: i work for a managed service provider called IPsoft05:53
wanglunno05:53
jhass840Okay, so I have the jaunty beta installed on my system already.  If I run the update manager, does that mean I will be updated to the release candidate?05:53
grendal_primesorrry that made no sence...is gutsy no longer supported...05:53
grendal_primeperfect.05:53
grendal_primejust what i needed right now05:53
BladeNBrocadeSunnyDP: oh u think,, i dread clients using HP-UX... no bash05:53
wanglunonline judge05:53
wanglunacm online judge this summer i should develop it05:54
SunnyDPBladeNBrocade: hehe :D sh, csh and ksh only?05:54
BladeNBrocadeSunnyDP: yea and sh05:54
celthunderBladeNBrocade, im looking at your website...big company huh?05:54
lstarnesgrendal_prime: you should still be able to upgrade it to 8.04 using the old-releases.ubuntu.com repos05:54
BladeNBrocadeoh u put that05:54
BladeNBrocadelol05:54
Anacranomlstarnes, ok, my desktop has the same network printer , has no issues,05:54
grendal_primeya but i have a laptop that will not work with 80405:54
Flanneljhass840: Currently, yes.05:54
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: u would think... its appr 500 - 700 not that big..05:54
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paul68!clone |legolasw05:54
ubottulegolasw: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate05:54
grendal_primeand this one will..but not very well it came with 710 preinstalled on it.05:55
grendal_primei just didnt want to have to work out any hardware kinks this month.05:55
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tzangergood evening; I'm running 8.10 and I'm just wondering how I can shut down X and move toward a text-only login (temporarily, so I can update a video driver) -- I can reboot in single mode but that's a little more than I think I need05:55
jhass840Flannel: can I update to the full release like that or do I need to install that manually?05:55
tzangerthere isn't an option to drop to a text mode in the options menu (sessions) at all05:56
xMopxWhen does 9.04 come out today?05:56
grendal_primetzanger: man ...ok ctrl alt f205:56
BladeNBrocadeyep logging terminal...05:56
grendal_primeto get back to x its ctrl alt f705:56
rrowellinstalling 8.10, I must have typed the password in wrong twice in a row because after the boot I can't login05:56
BladeNBrocademaybe u typed password in caps?05:57
rrowelli followed the instructions here : http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-reset-forgotten-root-password/05:57
jhass840xMopx: yeah, but probably not until the work day begins.  I figure cannonical wants to make sure they're in the office in case something goes wrong05:57
yodf05:57
grendal_primerrowell: your not trying to ...ya try the caps also i hope your not using a root user..05:57
rrowellthe problem is the recovery menu is buggy05:57
grendal_primecause it has NO password.05:57
xMopxjhass840: ah that makes sense, thanks.05:57
celthunderBladeNBrocade, really...says you guys do vmware...ive got a wierd issue with it care to help for a second? (workstation vmware btw..i get it free from classes (im a networking student atm though im doing an internship this summer)05:57
grendal_primeand not a blank password..but NO password05:57
Geoffrey2where are they located out of, anyway?05:57
tzangergrendal_prime: sure, I know how to do that05:57
tzangerI can get a CLI, but X is still running05:57
tzangerI tried /etc/init.d/gdm stop05:58
grendal_primekill x05:58
tzangerbut X is still there as is gdm-greeter05:58
syntachi, i just removed fusion-icon/compiz and now i can no longer ctrl+alt+{left,right} to move my virtual desktop.  any idea? (i don't want compiz anymore, just normal gnome)05:58
rrowellso how do I get to a root shell without the stupid buggy recovery menu?05:58
tzangergrendal_prime: it will start back up05:58
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: yep we do VMware.. i more so manage ESX but.. i just graduated too =) we used vmware workstation their so i may be able to assist05:58
Flannelrrowell: that's.... a rather poor way to do it.05:58
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syntacrrowell: open a normal one and run `sudo su -`05:58
grendal_primejust run your upgrade..05:58
Flannelrrowell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword  That's a much easier and better way to reset a lost password.05:58
grendal_primerestart x05:58
grendal_primectrl + alt + backspace05:58
tzangergrendal_prime: I'm aware of those tricks... this isn't a simple upgrade05:59
tzangerit's ATI's idiotic drivers05:59
grendal_primeedit your config whatever..05:59
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: internships are good... very good05:59
tzangerI need to uninstall a half dozen debs, install new ones and re-run aticonfig05:59
Bill_Gateswhens ubuntu 9.04 out05:59
Flannel!party | Bill_Gates05:59
ubottuBill_Gates: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties05:59
tzangerso this is why I'm trying to shut down X nicely so I can perform these tasks, and then reswtart it05:59
Anacranom!jaunty05:59
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party05:59
grendal_primehttp://theos.in/news/ubuntu-linux-shutdown-the-x-server/05:59
KingKimihow do i install xp into virtualbox ?05:59
grendal_primetry that06:00
KingKimii have xp sp306:00
grendal_primetzanger:  that was for you06:00
KingKimithe virtual box from sun06:00
kebomix1so , guys , when ubuntu 9.04 releasae , how can i share same programs and home when i install 9.04 fresh install  ?06:00
HappyHoboJackelope is the proper spelling JACKrabbit antELOPE.  It's jackelope.06:00
paul68!jaunty06:00
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party06:00
BladeNBrocadeKingKimi: the same u would install it on a computer.. but in the VBOX06:00
celthunderBladeNBrocade, ok this issue happened randomly when i was on  an actual vista install before too using a different motherboard and different connection (cables/etc though same isp/etc) .  Ok in 6.5.1 they added directx support for games ok.  Well the games do work like i goet 140 fps in cs:s but the internet lags out like it only sends REALLY slow....though incoming seems to be fine.  No other applications other than the normal are using the internet06:00
celthunder(normal being xchat, and the broadcasts for arp etc)06:00
Flannel!cloning | kebomix106:00
ubottukebomix1: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate06:00
AK_DaveKingKimi: Well, you open your Virtualbox manager and click 'New'06:00
tzangergrendal_prime: yes, it's just suggesting /etc/init.d/gdm stop, which is what ai'd tried already. the frist thing I tried in fact.  :-)  I appreciate the help, but that doesn't seem to do it06:00
tzangerI'l try the runlevel next06:00
grendal_primeya06:01
KingKimi!virtualbox > KingKimi06:01
ubottuKingKimi, please see my private message06:01
HappyHoboCan someone see what version of AfterStep Ubuntu has currently?06:01
grendal_primeif it doesnt go into runlevel 2 it shouldnt start x06:01
lstarnesHappyHobo: aptitude show afterstep06:01
celthunderBladeNBrocade, like the speed foru pload would instead of being the full 50kb would be like 5-10 and...yeah it just doesnt use networking properly.  Ive tried it with NAt invmware and bridged...different network cards...eetc06:01
tzangeryeah init 1/2 do it, but man that's a nasty way around it :-)06:01
tzangergrendal_prime: thanks for the help :-)06:02
HappyHoboI'm not using lstarnes ubuntu.  It's a deciding factor to whether or not I switch to Ubuntu.06:02
tmaddenthis is the ubuntu help channel correct06:02
FlannelHappyHobo: packages.ubuntu.com06:02
celthunderBladeNBrocade, BUT like uploading torrents, downloading torrents uploading pictures etc all worked fine....at normal speed..just the directx apps would do that06:02
Flanneltmadden: correct06:02
tmaddencan some onr please help me06:02
HappyHobothanks Flannel06:02
BassKozzNeed help, rsync problems; I keep getting "file has vanished" errors and I can't rsync from samba share to local dir... full error message: rsync warning: some files vanished before they could be transferred (code 24) at main.c(1058) [sender=3.0.3]06:02
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paul68!ask |tmadden06:02
ubottutmadden: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)06:02
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: so if i understand you correctly you have a latency on the VM network which isn't apparently from the VM...ahh only DirectX in a VM??06:02
Shaan7tmadden: ask you question directly, no need to "ask to ask"06:02
lstarnesHappyHobo: in 8.04, 8.10, or 9.04?06:03
AK_DaveKingKimi: Do you have Virtualbox installed? Do you have a CD or iso for the OS you want to install? Open Virtualbox and click 'New'. It practically walks you through it. Is there a particular step that stumps you?06:03
tmaddeni am running ubuntu 8.10 how do i open a text editor as root06:03
kebomix1!automate06:03
ubottuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning06:03
celthunderBladeNBrocade, yeah only the directx applications do that...06:03
AK_Davetmadden: sudo nano06:03
celthunderBladeNBrocade, which makes me so fustrated cause i cant figure out why directx would affect latency...06:04
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: if thats correct,, sound / video can be variable in VMs depending on the platform and build of the system performance wise,, also,, just to confirm was the base OS linux? or was it windows on windows?06:04
Shaan7tmadden: or if you want to use gedit graphical text editor, use "sudo gedit" in the terminal, though running gui programs as root is not recommended06:04
HappyHobothanks oh shit who was that06:04
lstarnesHappyHobo: afterstep 2.2.8-2 is in ubuntu 8.10 and 9.04.  2.2.7-2 is in 8.0406:04
AK_DaveShaan7: Technically, 'gksu gedit' is the preferred syntax.06:04
lstarnesHappyHobo: there may be PPA's with newer versions06:05
celthunderBladeNBrocade, ive tried linux base windows on top and windows on windows (Windows on windows worked SOMEWHAT like it would work for about 5-10 minutes and then do the same thing the linux ones do)06:05
Shaan7AK_Dave: oops, yeah, thanks :)06:05
ProgramError1any suggestions on running a pxe server without configuring the dhcp-server, i would like to keep my router im using06:05
* Shaan7 was using kde for a long time it seems :P06:05
BladeNBrocadestrange.. are u running vmtools?06:05
celthunderBladeNBrocade, yes06:05
HappyHoboI'm glad to see Ubuntu still support AfterStep.06:05
celthunderBladeNBrocade, and graphics card ive tried both nvidia 8600GT and ati hd4850 both were the 1gb models (ive got the ati in atm)06:06
lstarnesHappyHobo: there hasn't been a reason to remove it from the repos06:06
AK_DaveShaan7: So would that be 'kdsu kate'?06:06
KingKimiAK_Dave, no.. i am downloading now ,..... have the xp cd06:07
hannerpchey there is there a good techie online that can give me a hand?06:07
celthunderhannerpc, with?06:07
ProgramError1any suggestions on running a pxe server without configuring the dhcp-server, i would like to keep my router im using06:07
FlannelAK_Dave, Shaan7: kdesu kate06:07
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: ok.. in this case the discussion could get very verbose.. i would first review the resources being allocated to the VM's.. how much memory/cpu etc.. next u can review the actual guest OS configuration,, possibly update it and checking logs/ process tables etc etc while ur running directX,,06:07
AK_Davehannerpc: depends06:07
BassKozzNeed help, rsync problems; I keep getting "file has vanished" errors and I can't rsync from samba share to local dir... full error message: rsync warning: some files vanished before they could be transferred (code 24) at main.c(1058) [sender=3.0.3]06:07
geniiProgramError1: bootp ... if you know the MAC of the client06:07
* AK_Dave dumped using kde when 4.0 came out06:07
Geoffrey2do I remember correctly that moonlight is included with jaunty?06:07
He-manHello folks:)06:07
Shaan7AK_Dave: as Flannel said :)06:07
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: i believe there is a directX troubleshooting program on windows actually.. possibly running this in the VM would point u in the proper direction.. have u checked that?06:08
[Snipe]where is ubuntu 9.04, its April 23rd!06:08
ProgramError1genii, it would be changed all the time06:08
AK_DaveShaan7: When I did use kde, I still did 'sudo nano' because I just like nano.06:08
Flannel!party | [Snipe]06:08
ubottu[Snipe]: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties06:08
He-manHow do I register my nickname.  I tried /msg NickServe Register, and then I typed a name.06:08
ProgramError1im trying to do this instead of burning live cd's all the time06:08
FlannelHe-man: nickserv, not nickserve06:08
lstarnesHe-man: NickServ, without the E at the end06:08
ProgramError1and other installs that are commonly used06:08
He-manFlannel: Ah, thanks:)06:08
He-manIstarnes:  Thanks:)06:09
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Shaan7AK_Dave: yeah, just told him because he might be looking a way to use gedit, and by the way, nano is my fav too !06:09
BladeNBrocadebeing that vmware workstation on virtualizes the hardware its hard to tell what was detected and what is being used.. for instance.. in your vid card settings,, do u actually see the nvidia or ati card being used,, or do u see some generic device?06:09
hannerpctrying to get the Nvidia driver to work on a new install of Ubuntu - did updates, downloaded and activated driver, on reboot the display comes up as a fraction of line on the top of the monitor. Ran the (recovery?) option and back to where it is visable, but can't get the driver to activate and work - Oh using 17' LCD monitor.06:09
[Snipe]thanks06:09
geniiProgramError1: You can plug a router in and use it's MAC for the bootp. Whatever clients are on it just get nat'd06:09
celthunderBladeNBrocade, 3gb of ram assigned to the vm (8gb in the system atm total i could put in 12 if needed (i dont have enough 4gb sitcks to get to 16)) directx is working...unless there is some sort of networking thing in directx im not aware of...thought that was just graphics i see only a generic device though i do make sure the "accelerate graphics" option is checked...should i maybe use the onboard for the host system and give the video card really to06:10
celthunder ONLY the guest....06:10
Rusty_A1!outyet06:10
ubottuJaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+106:10
ProgramError1genii, ok but wouldnt it always point to the router then instead of the computer that is serving the files?06:10
celthunderhannerpc, which card?06:10
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: possibly i was mistaken,, are these online games or just locally installed copies?06:10
He-manFlannel: What does this mean? "NOTICE NickServ: Insufficient parameters for REGISTER"?06:10
lstarnesHe-man: you are not using the command correctly06:10
celthunderBladeNBrocade, downloaded on the pc but you play on online servers06:10
lstarnesHe-man: see "/msg nickserv help register" and http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup06:11
celthunderHe-man, you didnt provide enough arguments...its /nickserv register "pass" "email"06:11
lstarnesHe-man: also, #freenode is better for questions related to irc or freenode06:11
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: correct this is what i suspected.. in that case yes directX/networking have become dependant on each other..give me a second let me check something for you06:11
ProgramError1genii, ok but wouldnt it always point to the router then instead of the computer that is serving the files?06:11
He-manIstarnes:  Okay.  I'll have a look.06:11
geniiProgramError1: I haven't tried it through a router yet, but in principle it should work.06:12
ProgramError1genii, ok thanks06:12
He-mancelthunder: Which email?  I don't think I have specified an email previously.06:12
ProgramError1ill try to figure this out then06:12
hannerpccelthunder not sure of chip version, its onboard, is there an equivilent to device manager or msinfo I can access?06:12
AJNpa28anybody know what command you use to load Ubuntu from a bash shell???06:12
celthunderhannerpc, lspci06:12
ProgramError1any recommendations on a tutorial?06:12
lstarnesHe-man: use your own email address06:12
lstarnesHe-man: it will be needed for a verification code and future password resets06:13
celthunderAJNpa28, if you are at a bash shell you are already IN an os...you cant load an os from an os without virtualization of some kind06:13
He-manIstarnes:  I see.  Cheers mate.06:13
AJNpa28ok06:13
geniiProgramError1: http://www.rhyshaden.com/dhcp.htm indicates it can work across routers06:13
KingKimispace_cadet, HI !06:13
ProgramError1thanks again06:13
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: what about the thing i asked about the actual ati or nvidia being used in vmware or when u go to ur installed hardware ur using a generic SVGA driver or VMwares.. have you checked that is not the case?06:13
BladeNBrocades/or/of/06:14
AmaethHello06:14
celthunderBladeNBrocade, it is using the generic driver.  the hardware is still emulated so thats ok though isnt it?06:14
prodigyso when is the new release coming out?06:14
Amaethis true that in some servers the 910 is now downloadable?06:14
celthunderprodigy today06:14
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: not neccessarily..06:15
KingKimispace_cadet, :( ?06:15
AnnonyMouse1any idea what time Jaunty's coming out? I need to start downloading ISO's for tomorrows release party06:15
prodigywill there be xubuntu too? im more interested in that actually06:15
hannerpccelthunder - I appologize in advance, I am horribly new to linux/unix based shell is this where I should be?06:15
hannerpcroot@mojo-desktop:/home/mojo# |spci06:15
hannerpcbash: syntax error near unexpected token `|'06:15
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: 64 or 32 bit system?06:15
KingKimi!isitout | AnnonyMouse106:15
ubottuAnnonyMouse1: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+106:15
celthunderBladeNBrocade, so you are saying networking and graphics became linked somehow?06:15
celthunderhannerpc, its an l not a |06:15
prodigycelthunder: thanks....today as in like right now cuz its already today :)06:15
satahannerpc, its l06:15
hannerpc:$06:15
lstarnesprodigy: sometime today06:15
Bill_Gatesnot out yet06:16
AJNpa28i am having a problem with b43 broadcom firmware i know how to fix it, but everything reverts after reboot, wont write to disk, figured id like to enter gui from prompt without reboot06:16
celthunderBladeNBrocade, 64 bit host 32 bit guest (8300 doesnt support 64 bit guest though if i need to i guess i can grab a q6600 and use a 64 bit guest....)06:16
Amaethbut in some #ubuntu channel they are people telling us that is downloading the 910 (not the rc)06:16
He-manIs there a specific room for querying OpenOffice.org?06:16
celthunderHe-man, #openoffice.org06:16
He-mancelthunder: Thanks:)06:17
He-man#openoffice.org06:17
He-manOops06:17
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: yes in the world of whicever online game ur playing that is dependant on networking,, yes,, if ur are receiving a stream to display on ur local VM from the net.. then yes if there is a bottleneck in directX painting ur screen.. it can appear to be a networking issue.. similar to how many people on windows XP with 512MB and 1000 startup apps say the internet is slow06:17
prodigyso, just ubuntu today? or also kubuntu, xubuntu and eduubuntu?06:17
He-manlol, thats better:)06:17
hannerpccelthunder:  nVidia Corporation C51G [GeForce 6100] (rev a2)06:18
AJNpa28now this is a wubi install i dont know if thats why it wont write06:18
celthunderhannerpc, then dont use the latest nvidia driver go back one or two..the latest stops support atl ike 8000 or 7000 series i think06:18
KingKimihp1020 is not prinintg. but its printing in xp./ help me :( all correctly plugged...... it shows in print dialog box .... but simpley stands..... it cannt print06:18
celthunderBladeNBrocade, ok ill try setting the graphics driver to a non generic one...thank you for your time.06:18
toyo|deskdose anyone know what time tomorrow 9.04 will be out?06:19
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: whats the cpu utilization while ur playing the game?06:19
tgrwhen i start ubuntu the lcd contrast is turned all the way down how do i change that so it is brighter?06:19
thirdwheel_toyo|desk, ask in #ubuntu-release-party06:19
paul68!party|toyo|desk06:19
ubottutoyo|desk: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties06:19
celthunderBladeNBrocade, like 40 percent...avg per core being like 2006:19
toyo|deskthanks paul6806:19
celthunderBladeNBrocade, but i can only assign 2 cores to the vm not all 4 so thats not an accurate ....either way its not the cpu/ram its running out of06:20
chris062689Could anyone help me package up a DEB file?06:20
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: just wondering.. trying to cancel things out06:20
Kiran_ur_frnd4uhi06:21
Rusty_A1there's a guide to DEB packaging in the Ubuntu wiki.06:21
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: in ur setting in VMware have u enabled hardware acceleration?06:21
celthunderBladeNBrocade, ok it says vga ii 128mb of ram for the video device.. where do i increase that06:21
celthunderBladeNBrocade, yes i enabled hardware acceleration06:22
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: that may be an issue as well06:22
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: in ur windows setting is hardware acceleration enabled?06:22
SunnyDPhey guys, i have TOTALLY lost my Trash icon, and i cannot put it back on the panel , even using the "Add to panel" option, any hints ?06:23
AJNpa28anyone know why everything i do at the prompt in a wubi install is lost after reboot? everything i do seems kosher before i reboot, things are where i move them packages are installed etc then reboot and bang whoosh deja vu, same as the day it was born.06:23
chris062689SunnyDP: You get an error message?06:23
sejt1hi06:24
chris062689AJNpa28: is your HDD mounted read-only?06:24
SunnyDPchris062689: nothing, just cant add the trash icon to the panel06:24
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BladeNBrocadecelthunder: try this.. update the guest OS.. windows updates.. snapshot the VM just in case.. poweroff..disable hardware accel in the VM settings.. and boot up and run a direct X app with the windows process manager or the sysinternals process explorer running.. monitor which processes cause a spike06:24
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ZhouYuwhat is the best code editing tool in ubuntu ? eclipse ? i want to code in php... in windows i am using e-texteditor06:25
Aggrav8dhello, everybody!  can I pm some stupid questions about adduser/usermod to someone for 10 minutes?  I need some 1:1 tutoring because I'm a moron who can't seem to google instructions.06:25
SunnyDPZhouYu: jedit06:25
Gnea!trash | SunnyDP06:25
ubottuSunnyDP: The location of Trash has changed since 8.04, it is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash | Looking for the trash in previous versions: ~/.Trash06:25
chris062689ZhouYu: gedit's a good one for GNOME.06:25
celthunderBladeNBrocade, ok ill do that hold on06:25
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: k06:25
sejt1when i use gksu nautikus   and move something to trash... the files are disapeard , but no free space!06:25
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: still googling... i would just call that a best practice for now..06:25
WhitebeltThanks for your help people:)06:26
ZhouYuSunnyDP & chris062689 : ok thx... i'll try both of them :)06:26
AJNpa28dont know, how can i check. the only way i can add things to the tree is in the folders i can see in winows like custom install, and shared, other than that nothing will stick how would i check and change?06:26
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: in ur BASE System.. do u have the CPU virtualization option available and enabled in BIOS?06:26
Gneasejt1: who's trash? regular user's or root's?06:26
TrijntjeHi all, how hard is it to use a different file manager in gnome? Cause nautilus is causing long login delay06:26
RedMercuryuse xterm06:27
RedMercury:)06:27
BladeNBrocadelol06:27
BladeNBrocademidnight commander hehe06:27
RedMercuryxterm and mc06:27
SunnyDPGnea: regular,  and all i want is to have it back in my panel, but it seems impossible06:27
sejt1trash for root      Gnea06:27
RedMercuryheh06:27
BladeNBrocadelol06:27
BladeNBrocadeRedMercury: so ur old school huh? =)06:27
GneaSunnyDP: what's regular?06:27
SunnyDPGnea: regular user trash06:27
Gneasejt1: why would you bother with root's trash?06:28
GneaSunnyDP: did you check to see if either of those directories exist?06:28
SunnyDPGnea: they do, and when i "Add to panel" it does not add it06:28
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sejt1Gnea because my external hard drive reached only this vay06:28
* BladeNBrocade fires up vuze06:29
Gneasejt1: are you a part of the disk group?06:29
lenyel_has anyone tried using xmonad with ubuntu 9.04 rc and had problems launching terminals?06:29
Flannellenyel_: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks.06:30
sejt1Gnea     where can i chek it please thnakyou06:30
lenyel_ok will try thanks06:30
Gneasejt1: open a terminal and type: id06:30
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mrb__Hello everybody..... anybody have any idea when the 9.04 ganna be online..06:31
Flannelmrb__: #ubuntu-release-party, thanks06:31
c0l2ehow can I replace a certain text/string in a file using grep or sed??06:31
HiveDroneanyone know why xorg fails to start after activating the restricted ATI drivers? (Its some days ago I tried last, I should add)06:31
sejt1Gnea    ok       and?06:32
sejt1copy paste here?06:32
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mrb__flannel, thanks06:32
Gneasejt1: it should all be one line, so go ahead and paste that one line, please06:32
Gneasejt1: if it's more than one line, then use pastebin06:33
sejt1jt1@hydra:~$ id06:33
sejt1uid=1000(sejt1) gid=1000(sejt1) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),108(lpadmin),123(admin),124(sambashare),1000(sejt1)06:33
ela_aiiight06:34
munwin:-)06:34
BladeNBrocade;>06:35
AJNpa28if hard drive is mounted read only what command would i use from terminal to change it to write06:37
Gneasejt1: alright, you're going to need to give yourself access to the disk group - System->Administration->Users & Groups, select yourself and modify your groups/properties06:37
sejt1ok  checkolom06:37
GneaAJNpa28: sudo mount -n -o remount,rw /media/disk06:37
sejt1koszi/thank jou06:38
ela_does someone mind if i ask them noob ubuntu linux questions?06:38
BladeNBrocadeela_: no06:38
Gneaonly if you ask to ask it :)06:38
ela_aiiight cool06:38
Gnea(btw this is irc, not the street :p )06:39
Gnea!ask06:39
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)06:39
ela_i just wanted to know if i had to type in the terminal to execute a bin file EVERY time i wanted to use the file06:39
Gneanah06:39
ela_or is there some way to link it to something06:40
Gneayou could set the proper executable permissions, move it to the Desktop/ and double-click it everytime06:40
profxanyone good with DHCP in a Windows environment?06:40
Gnealike this:  chmod 700 file.bin && mv file.bin ~/Desktop06:40
ubuntistaswhen ubuntu it's gone be uploaded in the mirrors?06:40
Gneaprofx: probably the people in #windows or #windows-server06:40
Detonatedela_, right click on ubuntu desktop and choose Create Launcher06:41
BladeNBrocadedid someone saw dhcpd?06:41
BladeNBrocades/saw/say/06:41
GneaDetonated: he was asking about how to do it in the terminal06:41
profxGnea, im asking in here06:41
ela_thanks guys06:41
Gnea!ot | profx06:41
zippyfishdid the new relase came out yet..06:41
ubottuprofx: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!06:41
BladeNBrocades/came/come/06:41
Gneazippyfish: nope, check #ubuntu-release-party06:41
profxGnea, dont get on my bad side, you wont like it06:41
AJNpa28cool if i can get this b43 fw to stick im gonna ditch windows alltogether, only machine i havent gotten linux to run on, my little laptop, ive set several people up, and my averatec turd refuses to boot without b43 firmware, and i havent been able to get it to stick. if this works i'll freak its been 2 months on and off06:42
sejt1 i didnt find     uhhhhh06:42
Gneaprofx: pardon?06:42
zippyfishthx06:42
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Guest7389hi.. how do i reset compiz and / or uninstall it completely from commandline?06:42
Gneaprofx: don't start none, won't be none06:42
BladeNBrocadeapt-get --purge remove compiz*06:42
BladeNBrocadesudo06:42
profx!ot | Gnea06:42
ubottuGnea: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!06:42
bazhangprofx, stop that06:43
profxstop what bazhang?06:43
Gneaprofx: right, so if you need help with Windows DHCP Server, ask in #windows or #windows-server06:43
profxtyping messages into a channel?06:43
profxGnea, repeating is both annoying an not useful06:43
JdbanI have a quick question I figured someone might know the answer to: how soon will 9.04 be released? (soon as in how many hours)06:43
owen1is there a site showing the packages and the versions of all the packages ubuntu 9.04 comes with?06:43
BladeNBrocadecome on guys.. smile06:43
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BladeNBrocade=)06:43
Gneaprofx: you're not going to get any help by acting like this06:43
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profxGnea, maybe you just need to ignore any further comments from me, to save us both some time06:44
rosepetalhi.. how do i reset compiz and / or uninstall it completely from commandline? i accidentally set the opacity to 100% and now nothing shows06:44
Gneaprofx: no problem there, if you'd stop making them and maybe say something more useful.06:44
profxand I will be more than happy to do the same, in return06:44
vart!outyet | Jdban06:44
BladeNBrocaderosepetal: apt-get --purge remove compiz*06:44
ubottuJdban: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+106:44
Jdbanthank you ubottu06:44
rosepetalBladeNBrocade: will it remove all the effects as well?06:45
DetonatedJdban, http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/06:45
BladeNBrocaderosepetal: yes06:45
profxGnea, saying something 'useful' in your eyes, isnt my purpose of being here, so just continue to do what you were doing before I dropped in06:45
Kemerosubottu thx that was my question06:45
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:45
dfshow to import firefox addons from user account a to user acount b06:45
Gneaprofx: just drop the attitude already.06:45
forecan someone tell me why, since i upgraded to 9.04 the flash player in my website doesnt display anymore?06:45
foredo i need to reinstall flash ?06:45
profxGnea, stop posting messages to be, and it will 'drop'06:45
profxme*06:46
g4lt-lappyfore #ubuntu+1 can06:46
sejt1Gnea when i use   gksu nautilus i have rigts     but whn i erase filesin the trash  it cant work06:46
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maximo!jaunty Jackalope06:46
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:46
Gneaprofx: we can take this private, if you prefer.06:46
dfshow to import firefox addons from one suer account to another06:46
profxGnea, take what to private exactly?06:47
dfshow to import firefox addons from one user account to another06:47
BladeNBrocadedfs maybe copying the .firefox file?06:47
BladeNBrocadedirectory rather06:47
ela_does anyone know how to add mp3's to an ipod, or what proper app to use?06:47
dfshow really new to commandlinepls give me the command06:47
rosepetalBladeNBroCade: did i mention i am unable to see anything on screen. i wont be able to see any of the prompts etc that come before the uninstall :S06:47
profxGnea i insist you do not continue to annoy me06:47
Gnea!ipod | ela_06:47
ubottuela_: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod06:47
BladeNBrocade!ipod | ela_06:47
BladeNBrocadeargh06:48
AJNpa28phew ubottu farted06:48
trippinhi i was wondering if some one in here could tell me what i can do to fix my menu.lst file, i just upgraded to 9.04 and i'm still using uname -r06:48
trippin2.6.27-11-generic06:48
BladeNBrocadelol06:48
svenskowhat's the ETA on 9.04?06:48
Gneaprofx: or?06:48
chris062689How come http://releases.ubuntu.com/ is redirecting to http://noncdn-releases.ubuntu.com/?06:48
Gneaela_: see what ubottu told you06:48
BladeNBrocadeits probably intended06:48
paul68in the home folder there are a lot of user definition folders like ./firefox or ./eclipse is my assumption correct when I do a fresh install of jaunty and replace the new user profile folders with the exsisting ones it will work like its working now or am I wrong?06:49
ela_ok06:49
dfsbladenbrocade please give methe command how to do it06:49
BladeNBrocadecp -r06:49
g4lt-lappypaul68, to some extent.  the directories aren't all-inclusive06:49
BladeNBrocadeu may want to mv the existing .firefox file to .firefox.bak just incase06:50
g4lt-lappyand of course, there's no guarantees about version specific rc files06:50
varttripping: use #ubuntu+1 channel06:50
* BladeNBrocade shivers06:50
paul68g4lt-lappy: its just for the thunderbird settings keep my mails and stuff06:51
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g4lt-lappypaul68, again, it should work, but there's too many variables to say it will06:51
paul68g4lt-lappy: ok thanks06:51
BladeNBrocadethats not going to work paul68 because those . file come as u install those apps.. u would need to build a exact replica of ur packages to even try that06:52
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maximowhere do I go to enable tab-completion?06:52
BladeNBrocadeexample i dont believe .eclips is a default package.. therefore the .eclipse folder would be useless,, and even when u installed eclipse i believe it would just write its own06:53
paul68BladeNBrocade: its just for thunderbird that I want to do this to make sure that I don't have to rebuild my folder structure and rules that I have set06:53
BladeNBrocadepaul68: that may work..06:53
paul68BladeNBrocade: ok thanks06:54
eugen_hey I'm trying to start dansguardian, but I get this error: "06:54
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Guest4741" * Starting DansGuardian dansguardianError connecting to parent proxy06:54
Guest4741"06:54
Guest4741what does that mean?06:54
paul68BladeNBrocade: is there a way to export rules from thunderbird?06:54
JauntyFreakrelease party channel?06:54
trippin_ hi i was wondering if some one in here could tell me what i can do to fix my menu.lst file, i just upgraded to 9.04 and i'm still using 2.6.27-11-generic rather then 2.6.28-1106:55
g4lt-lappytrithere's a specific channel for jaunty: #ubuntu+1.  use it06:55
BladeNBrocadepaul68: good question,, i would check the menu,,there is a defined import submenu.. possible there u would see.. it sounds like something do able.. i would imagine that would be the GUI port to doing exactly what u are trying to do manually..06:55
ubuntistaswhen ubuntu it's gone be uploaded in the mirrors?06:55
maximorather wait a couple of days to upgrade06:55
g4lt-lappytrippin, ^^^^^06:56
JauntyFreakwhats the release partys channel link please06:56
bazhang!party06:56
ubottuPlease remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties06:56
paul68BladeNBrocade: ok thanks06:56
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maximowhere do I go to enable tab-completion?06:57
g4lt-lappymaximo, in what?06:58
KingKimidoes anyone one about WIN4LIN ????? is it the same as of virtual box or different ???? or is it like wine ? or virtualbox ? or what ?06:59
maximog4lt-lappy: mine is not enabled to like doing nick's completion or else....06:59
blapcan someone please explain to me how I can install FiSH plugin for irssi!?06:59
g4lt-lappymaximo, again in what?  theere are about a dozen differen IRC clients07:00
sejt1error message   Gnea     Sorry, could not display all the contents of "trash": Operation not supported07:01
maximog4lt-lappy: konversation07:01
BladeNBrocadepaul68: looks like thunderbird has an extension for this as well07:01
sejt1after gksu07:01
wolteris there an irc client for linux as fancy as colloquy?07:01
g4lt-lappymaximo, hyou would choose the one I don't have any idea about.  sorry :(07:01
Gneasejt1: did you get added to the disk group?07:01
sejt1no because i dont find07:02
KingKimii am now installing xp into vbox.... but my mouse cannot get out of vbox ose ,,. though i clicked ctrl a 100 times :( ///// only window i am active is xchat (luckily) ... plz help me to get my mouse pointer07:02
maximog4lt-lappy: will go type : --> g4lt {tab} no working07:02
marktheflyingspaanyone know if the new ubuntu jaubty is relaesed as a non beta today ?07:03
KingKimi!isitout07:03
ubottuJaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+107:03
woltermarktheflyingspa, tomorrow i guess07:03
marktheflyingspaopps jaunty07:03
wolterlast time i saw it was 1 day remaining07:03
madrazrAmaranth: or any other admin, may be you need to set the topic this time too, "Jaunty is released, when it is released. Don't Ask". Like it was done for Intrepid :D07:03
madrazrLoL!07:03
marktheflyingspathanks mate ... we get the days first in australia *S*07:04
Gneasejt1: okay, this is what you need to do then:  sudo vigr   then look for a line like this one:  disk:x:6:  then add your username to the end of it, like this:  disk:x:6:sejt1  then save/exit, logout, login again and you shouldn't need to be root to read/write the disk07:04
shantzuany idea when 9.04 is going to come out? =)07:04
Gnea!jaunty | shantzu07:04
ubottushantzu: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party07:04
KingKimican anyone help me to get my mouse outta vbox ose ???? i clicked control key 1000 times and it is not getting out :(07:04
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marktheflyingspaTHX for the info07:05
BladeNBrocadeCTRL + SHIFT or some fuction like that usually release the mouse from vmachines KingKimi07:05
* BladeNBrocade whispers "on laggy java remote consoles too"07:06
tenzindhi .. does ubuntu support upgrades from one release to another (without having to reinstall), like Debian does?07:07
Flanneltenzind: Of course07:07
BladeNBrocadetenzind: yes,, u can also turn debian to ubuntu07:07
BladeNBrocadetenzind: even though that has nothing to do with what u asked i thought it was relevant =)07:08
reeferAnyone here to help me with my wireless issue07:09
jonaskoelkerHi all.  In gnome-do, when I'm indexing too many files, how do I make the error message stay visible for long enough time to read it?07:09
tenzindFlannel, and ubuntu also has the "unstable, testing, stable" releases?07:09
Flanneltenzind: No.07:09
reeferI am having a problem with weak wireless signal when i am like 10 feet from the router07:10
dlozariegood day, guys. I was just wondering if I could upgrade to 9.04 using the live cd, or if that only did installs?07:10
enterneoenterneo: I have a proxy server, which is listening on an arbitrary port, now I want to simulate the working of that proxy server, how do i send some dummy data on that port for a destined ip and then route back to the original sender, with the proxy working both ways, I will have the console echo the working in my proxy server implementation07:10
BladeNBrocade!wireless | reefer07:10
ubottureefer: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:10
mib_0da4stqvhi all, ubuntu9.04 was supposed to be released today, did it ??07:10
g4lt-lappymib_0da4stqv, /topic07:10
karbois it out yet?!07:10
g4lt-lappyDIAF07:11
BladeNBrocadelol07:11
tenzindFlannel, so if i am no a stable ubuntu right now, can i not then shift into something like the debian testing, so that when that testing becomes stable, i would already have "stable" ?07:11
Flannel!conduct | g4lt-lappy07:11
ubottug4lt-lappy: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/07:11
mib_0da4stqv@karbo, the scheduled date is 23rd, right?07:11
g4lt-lappyFlannel, i literally just answered it07:11
tenzindon*07:11
Flanneltenzind: Erm, what?  You're right now using the release candidate or beta of 9.04, and you're wondering about how you move to stable 9.04?07:12
Flannelg4lt-lappy: Indeed.  That doesn't mean you can be rude.07:12
mib_0da4stqvall are sleeping07:12
g4lt-lappyFlannel, since I was completely ignored, it really can't be rude, now can it?07:12
tenzindFlannel, on 8.1007:12
g4lt-lappyits only rude if they listen in the first palce07:12
BladeNBrocadeis there a way to make compiz work on 2 monitors?07:12
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BladeNBrocadein xinerama mode07:13
Flannelg4lt-lappy: Again, please don't be rude to anyone.  Whether you think they're listening to you or not.07:13
Lord_Devig4lt-lappy: i'm a witness who thinks you were rude.. does that count?07:13
mib_0da4stqv@g4lt ....lol07:13
dlozarieuhm looks like one can request a 9.04 live cd on the website now07:13
g4lt-lappyBladeNBrocade, nothing's easy on dual monitors07:13
TheBeast9.04 will be released today?07:13
BladeNBrocadeg4lt-lappy: didn't ask for easy just is there a way..07:13
mib_0da4stqv@Lord/Flannel,,,ppl like you guys should never come to this forum,,,,,07:13
Lord_Devimib_0da4stqv: lol, didn't say I wasn't rude myself... i just recognize it. =)07:14
Lord_DeviI'm from EFnet, I'm pretty hard to offend.07:14
Flanneltenzind: Once 9.04 is released, you can upgrade from 8.10 to it, using update manager.  You'll get a prompt to upgrade if you're using the GUI.07:14
g4lt-lappyLord_Devi, given you prolly didn't listen the first time either, no07:14
Guest4741hey what web filtering software is reccommended?07:14
BladeNBrocadeg4lt-lappy: actually compiz works without xinerama enabled.. however in that mode.. it completely doesn't load07:14
dlozariewell I believe it *was* scheduled for release today. Maybe later on in the day?07:14
FlannelGuest4741: Try dansguardian07:14
mib_0da4stqvguys wasting ur and others time07:14
tenzindFlannel, ok .. thanks07:14
dlozarieFlannel: if my internet connection conks out at any time during the update process, what happens?07:14
KingKimi\join #vboz07:14
Flannel!party | dlozarie, TheBeast07:14
ubottudlozarie, TheBeast: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties07:14
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Flannel!upgrade | tenzind07:15
ubottutenzind: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading07:15
Lord_Devidlozarie: It will resume the download when you start it up again later.07:15
mib_0da4stqvdont do that@Lord07:15
Flanneldlozarie: It downloads all the packages, and then installs them.  So, if its at the download stage nothing, you just restart.  If its installing... well, then it's not downloading anymore.07:15
mib_0da4stqv@dlozaire,,,,yep i think so07:15
Lord_Devimib_0da4stqv: Do what?07:15
BladeNBrocadeid rather xinerama because it defeats the purpose of my two monitors if i can't use one as primary and the other as secondary.. just having two seperate copies of X running isn't working..so i left wobbly windows for functionality..07:15
mib_0da4stqvok guys keep kicking each other,,,m moving07:15
dlozarieLord_Devi: oh, cool. whew. thanks guys.07:15
mib_0da4stqvbye07:15
dlozarieFlannel: oh, cool. whew. thanks guys.07:16
BladeNBrocadenow.. id like my wobbly windows back07:16
ludditeoh i logged on to find out why 9.04 wasnt released today and im told not to ask by the welcome text :-)07:16
dlozariewill pre-order a few CDs though, to give out to my friends.07:16
Flannelluddite: #ubuntu-release-party07:16
ludditeflannel - thanks :-)07:16
Lord_Deviluddite: #ubuntu+1 might be less strict about it07:17
konsolenrocker_can anyone suggest me a pricy unix workstation?07:17
jonrafkindis anyone using the xorg-ati driver? I get 300fps with it in glxgears, which seems rather low07:17
Lord_Devikonsolenrocker: Whisper stations by Microway07:17
konsolenrocker_i try07:17
Flannelkonsolenrocker_: Try #ubuntu-offtopic or #hardware, this isn't a proper channel for that.  Thanks.07:17
konsolenrocker_ok07:17
BladeNBrocadeaix?07:18
reeferIf anyone can help me with my wireless issue please pm me07:19
Geoffrey2there's a command I can type in that will show a list of folders along with the total amount of space each is taking up...but I can't remember the name of the command...07:19
FlannelGeoffrey2: du07:19
BladeNBrocadedu07:19
jonaskoelkerGeoffrey2: du07:19
Geoffrey2ah, thanks :)07:19
BladeNBrocadelol07:19
linuxguymarshallI am trying to get my battery working on my Lenovo S10. Ubuntu 9.04. Same issue as described here : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1035411.html            I have asked many places, waited for long times and no one seems willing to help. Anyone have any solutions they want me to try?07:19
BladeNBrocadeactually... thats not it07:19
GneaGeoffrey2: du -h07:20
BladeNBrocadedu -skh * should be what ur looking for07:20
rascallinuxrelease party room please07:20
GneaBladeNBrocade: not -s07:20
BladeNBrocadewhy not s?07:20
Gnearascallinux: #ubuntu-release-party07:20
Lord_DeviGeoffrey2:  du -cks * |sort -rn |head -1107:20
GneaBladeNBrocade: he wants the size of all of the folders, not just the whole size of everything in the CWD07:20
BladeNBrocaderainofkayos@rain:~$ du -skh *07:21
BladeNBrocade4.0KAdobeReader.desktop07:21
BladeNBrocade4.0KAzureus Downloads07:21
BladeNBrocade14MDesktop07:21
BladeNBrocade7.1GDocuments07:21
FloodBot2BladeNBrocade: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.07:21
WindowSmasherHi all07:21
Lord_DeviGeoffrey2: That'll sort the list in order of greatest to least space offenders..07:21
BladeNBrocadesrry07:21
WindowSmasherWhat are the pros and cons of 64 bit ubuntu 8.10?07:21
WindowSmasherAre there still installation issues with flash etc?07:21
BladeNBrocadeoh i see what u mean07:21
GneaWindowSmasher: pro: it's fast. con: what?07:21
Lord_DeviWindowSmasher: No, haven't been any flash issues for a long time with 64 bit ubuntu.07:22
GneaWindowSmasher: nope, it's been fixed07:22
WindowSmasherAny issues running wine?07:22
Lord_DeviWindowSmasher: No cons I can think of to be honest.07:22
Gneait runs07:22
wtvwhen does jaunty release?07:22
paul68how to become an registered ubuntu user07:22
Gnea!jaunty | wtv07:22
celthunderWindowSmasher, thers con's to 64 bit? ive used wine and it worked fine07:22
ubottuwtv: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party07:22
paul68!jaunty07:22
Lord_DeviWindowSmasher: Nope. I play CoV/WoW/Eve... quite a few games with wine these days07:22
Lord_Deviw/ 64bit07:22
WindowSmasherThanks all!07:22
WindowSmasherI'll bbl07:22
Lord_Deviyw07:22
WindowSmasherTired of Vista. Came preloaded on this new desktop. I'm very unhappy with it07:23
wtvcelthunder: i know but its 23rd april today and its not released07:23
linuxguymarshallAnyone at all?07:23
GneaWindowSmasher: basically, the cons have been dramatically reduced in the past couple of years :)07:23
* BladeNBrocade shivers @ sound of vista07:23
WindowSmasherSold.07:23
Lord_DeviWindowSmasher: I love how they just force that on ya. Wish lots of extra mcafee stuff too..07:23
Lord_Deviyay07:23
Lord_Devi:%s/Wish/With07:23
linuxguymarshallI am trying to get my battery working on my Lenovo S10. Ubuntu 9.04. Same issue as described here : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1035411.html            I have asked many places, waited for long times and no one seems willing to help. Anyone have any solutions they want me to try?07:23
BladeNBrocadeheh mcaffe is poopy07:23
GneaWindowSmasher: give it a couple days and there will be plenty of seeds for the new iso's via bittorrent :)07:24
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Gnealinuxguymarshall: only place that can help you with it right now would be in #ubuntu+107:24
paul68doesn anyone know how to become an registered ubuntu user07:24
Gneapaul68: registered, in what way?07:25
linuxguymarshallGnea:Thank you so much07:25
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celthunderwtv ? i didnt say anything?07:25
paul68Gnea: like you see in the forums that someone became a registered ubuntu user with a number besides it07:25
wtvcelthunder: sorry i meant Gnea07:26
Lord_Devipaul68: Cononical has a few different membership levels available. They are described on the webpage.. I'm afraid I don't know too much about them though.07:26
Lord_DeviOne of them includes an SLA though.. that's pretty awesome.07:26
BladeNBrocadeLord_Devi: thats pretty cool07:26
paul68Lord_Devi: ok thanks07:26
* Lord_Devi smiles at paul07:26
neil_dLord_Devi: SLA?07:26
Gneapaul68: aah, I just registered on the forums page and I think it just increases the more you post/reply07:26
BladeNBrocadeneil_d: service level agreement07:27
neil_dBladeNBrocade: ok07:27
Lord_Devineil_d: Service Level Agreement. Essentialy gaurenteed service in a gauranteed time frame07:27
BladeNBrocademore or less07:27
Lord_DeviCompanies with far too much money love em. hehe07:27
paul68Gnea: thats just the number of posts you are doing, I don't have an example at hand was just wondering how to become "an official ubuntu user"07:27
sejt1ok i dont know ?then save/exit? Gnea07:28
Lord_DeviWho wouldn't wonder! =)07:28
BladeNBrocadeheh tell me about it... we have 15 minutes SLA response 4 hr to resolve/escalate07:28
* Lord_Devi 's eyes pop out of his head07:28
* BladeNBrocade 's pops out his everyday =(07:29
Lord_DeviI could never offer an SLA like that myself..07:29
Lord_DeviYou want it when?!?07:29
BladeNBrocadelol haha .. well we bend the rules alot as well07:29
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Lord_Devihah07:29
Lord_Deviwho's we?07:29
thurstonGood day. Does anyone have an idea when on 23/04/2009 (today) will Ubuntu 9.04 be available. I am not referring to the release candidate.07:30
celthunderBladeNBrocade, thats quite a demand..15 minutes?  and you only have 500 ppl you said?07:30
BladeNBrocadei have clients like mastercard, the gap,, its expected07:30
Flannelthurston: No.  No one does.  #ubuntu-release-party might be a good place to hang out though.07:30
paul68BladeNBrocade: we have a service level of 95% to be solved directly on first call and we are actually at 99%07:30
Lord_Devithurston: good day. I think in an hour and a half from now it's supposed to be on the servers...07:30
BladeNBrocadeyes 15 minutes to respond .. meaning when our monitrong sees an alert there is a countdown07:30
Lord_Devioh yeah.. not supposed to answer that question.07:30
* Lord_Devi smacks his forehead07:30
FlannelLord_Devi: especially with bad information.07:30
* Lord_Devi nods at Flannel, That too..07:31
Lord_DeviI'm just workin off a time I heard in here earlier. =)07:31
BladeNBrocadepaul68: awesome... our competitors are people like IBM,,, we just partnered with Cisco because they dont support applications.. the work flow just increased by alsmost 250% .. yes @ the central office i can only say we have 80 people at most..07:31
thurstonLord_Devi: Thank you for your response. I will try to be patient. I am now hooked on Ubuntu.07:32
BladeNBrocadewe have onsite teams.. we have a india office,, and california and netherlands.. but still not big at all those offices..07:32
paul68BladeNBrocade: ouch thats a lot of work lol07:32
BladeNBrocadeyes its .. ironically... lol making more people QUIT... so its actually getting worst..07:32
cemcjaunty with gnome. I have no visual effects enabled, still when I minimize a window, there's a basic minimize effect. How can I disable that?07:33
Gneapaul68: I'm really not sure, sorry... but thanks for reminding me, I need to update that howto I started writing last year :)07:33
Flannelcemc: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks.07:34
cemcFlannel: got it. sorry.07:34
CanaenAnyone have experience with Ubuntu Tweak and/or upgrading intrepid's native OpenOffice 2.4 to 3.0.1?07:34
BladeNBrocadenot sure about tweak but the installation files should be available on the Oo0 site if not the repo no?07:35
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BladeNBrocadeCanaen: there is as well an option to update in O0O... i think that would acquire the 3.0 binary atleast07:36
Geoffrey2oh, is there a command to let you know how much swap is actually being used, if any?07:36
BladeNBrocadeswap -l07:36
BladeNBrocadeswapon -l07:36
Gnea!ooo07:36
ubottua free and open source office suite that includes word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components. To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". For (unofficial) repositories containing OpenOffice.org 3, see https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa. User help available in #openoffice.org.07:36
Lord_DeviGeoffrey2: 'free'07:36
CanaenBladeNBrocade: should I uninstall 2.4 first, or should I be able to just upgrade?07:37
BladeNBrocade-s actually07:37
Geoffrey2surprise, surprise....none07:37
BladeNBrocadeswapon -s07:37
BladeNBrocadeCanaen: not sure u can always just uninstall the 2.407:37
Canaenmmk07:37
w-heatquick question: I have 3 machines to upgrade when 9.04 is released; what would be the best way of doing this? Will there be a CD image that supports upgrade or do I have to apt on each box?07:37
celthunderBladeNBrocade, can i pm you ?07:37
BladeNBrocadecelthunder: why not07:38
Flannelw-heat: You can use the alternate CD to upgrade, yes.  But, also, if you have three boxes, have you looked into apt-proxy?07:38
ssnhi guys07:38
jbuIs there a way to upgrade to 9.04 without deleting the files on the partition?07:39
ssncould it be that jaunty is late?07:39
Flanneljbu: Of course.   Regular upgrade proceures.07:39
OrlsendMaybe ssn.07:39
Flannel!upgrade | jbu07:39
ubottujbu: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading07:39
w-heatFlannel: thanls for the link07:39
kenyonw-heat: I'd just use aptitude or whatever the upgrade guide says if they have decent internet connections to their sources.list mirrors.07:39
jbuthanks07:39
ssnSomehow, the release candidate does not detect my raid07:39
Flannelssn: Please join #ubuntu-release-party for the countdown/anticipation/etc07:39
ssnok07:40
w-heatkenyon: yeah, I just anticipated that the load was going to be high07:40
kenyonw-heat: Ah, true.07:40
ActionParsnipyo yo yo07:40
neil_dit seems that the flash player (e.g. youtube) has no sound :(  can anyone help?07:41
CaneToadneil_d:  is any sound working for you at all?07:41
joshuxwhen07:41
ActionParsnipneil_d: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96416507:42
joshux!9.0407:42
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party07:42
ActionParsnipneil_d: http://tech.mikelopez.info/2008/12/13/no-sound-in-flash-in-ubuntu-intrepid/07:42
Aperculumbig day, today \o/07:42
Orlsendwhats the channel for the realease party?07:42
FlannelOrlsend: #ubuntu-release-party07:43
Orlsendthanks07:43
neil_dCaneToad: yes!  vlc plays a DVD ok07:43
AperculumFlannel: I thought you were joking before I joined there :)07:43
jbuFlannel, but if I wanted to change to ext4 (I have ext3 now) I couldn't just upgrade?  I'd have to do a clean install?07:45
Flanneljbu: I believe you can.07:46
CaneToadneil_d, I have Ubuntu 8.10 and by default it comes set up with pulse audio, but pulse audio at least with the default settings is really badly broken.  My sound has been behaving very nicely since I followed the instructions at http://blog.jayway.com/2008/11/10/getting-sound-to-work-on-ubuntu-810ut/07:46
ActionParsnip!sound07:47
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP307:47
neil_dCaneToad: ok having a look now.07:47
levon_i need help getting my micro innovations web cam to work. could someone lend a hand thank you07:47
Code_Bleuwhen is 9.04 actually going to be up for download?07:48
chronicpirateanybody know of any sort of announce chan for the ubuntu torrents07:48
FlannelCode_Bleu: Sometime within the next 27 hours.  #ubuntu-release party, Also chronicpirate.07:48
chronicpirateso I can set my highlights for irc07:48
Flannelchronicpirate: subscribe to the ubuntu-announce mailing list.07:48
Code_Bleuwill 'sudo update-manager -d' work on the beta and RC versions once the final release is out?07:49
gartral2how do i rotate my monitor's output, the monitor has a swivel, but i cant rotate07:49
FlannelCode_Bleu: you don't need the -d once you're on the RC/beta07:49
Code_BleuFlannel: 27 hours? I thought it was released today 23rd?07:49
chronicpiratedelays make me sad07:50
FlannelCode_Bleu: Come to #ubuntu-release-party07:50
gartral2Code_Bleu: for half the world, that IS the 23rd07:50
ActionParsnipchronicpirate: due to time differences it'll get released all different times07:51
chronicpirate:o07:51
chronicpirateso then for my time zone will it be out at midnight?07:51
chronicpiratein like 10 mintues?07:51
ActionParsnipchronicpirate: easter island gets the biggest delays. I'm sure another 24 hours or so won't destroy your system07:51
chronicpirateprobably not07:51
chronicpirateActionParsnip: are you sure?07:51
chronicpirateit might07:51
Flannelchronicpirate: #ubuntu-release-party, not here.  thanks.07:52
jbuwell it'll get released at all different times if you consider that in different time zone's it's always a different time07:52
ActionParsnipchronicpirate: i severly doubt it, chillout dude. More important things in life to worry about than a software upgrade07:52
chronicpirateit doesn't seems to be out at all though07:52
chronicpirateif it were it would be on the torrents07:52
chronicpirateand only beta and rc are now :c07:52
Flannelchronicpirate: #ubuntu-release-party is the place for this discussion, not here.  Please take it there.07:52
blizzard_pronick07:52
ActionParsnip!nick07:53
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname . Registration help available in #freenode07:53
maximoquestion: how do I view the history of commands I have use on my system lately?07:53
ActionParsnipmaximo: history07:53
ActionParsnipmaximo: if you wish to rerun one of the commands, read the left hand column07:53
maximoActionParsnip: how about the less?07:53
ActionParsnipmaximo: then type !<number>07:54
Code_Bleudoes anyone know if it is possible to install ubuntu on the "instant on" arm based processor, part of the new Dell latitude e4300 laptop?07:54
blizzard_pro#chan07:54
Aggrav8dhi, people!  i want to modify the /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd start to add some parameters.  where do i find the bash script that is being run?07:54
ActionParsnipmaximo: you can pipe it into less07:54
blizzard_pro#CHANNEL07:54
maximoActionParsnip: thanks alot07:54
ActionParsnipmaximo: you can also grep it07:54
ActionParsnipmaximo: for example if you want to rerun command 400 then you would type: !40007:54
maximoAction grep / less / history07:54
maximookay thanks07:54
ActionParsnipmaximo: or you can do stuff like07:54
ActionParsnipmaximo: history | grep apt07:55
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ActionParsnipmaximo: to see all the commands containing the word 'apt'07:55
Geoffrey2do I need to use a live CD or such if I want to resize /home?07:55
maximoActionParsnip: neat07:55
ActionParsnipmaximo: the default length is the lst 1000 commands you typed and it is stored in ~/.bash_history07:55
FlannelGeoffrey2: Yes, you can't resize a mounted partition.07:55
ActionParsnipmaximo: makes rerunning commands easier07:56
maximoActionParsnip: that is my problem when I went into linux (commands)07:56
maximoActionParsnip: correct...shorter07:56
ActionParsnipmaximo: there is a way to manipulate the list from CLI but ive never bothered (like inseting history lines and moving them around)07:57
Code_Bleudoes ubuntu have a twitter account? that would be cool if they did and when the actual files are posted they could just tweet and then people who tweet, would know07:57
Geoffrey2and /home can't be unmounted unless I'm running from the live CD....got it07:58
FlannelCode_Bleu: We have an announce mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce  But, this belongs in -release-party07:58
* BladeNBrocade collapses07:58
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maximoActionParsnip: I know by way of reading you  all this and practising....07:58
Flannel!away > RoozbehOnline07:58
ubottuRoozbehOnline, please see my private message07:58
ActionParsnipGeoffrey2: if /home is on its own partition you can unmount it afaik, you will need to unmount any other partitions too if you are resizing into them, i recommend using the live cd for simplicity07:59
ActionParsnipmaximo: best way07:59
maximoActionParsnip: go ahead07:59
gartral2need to figure out monitor rotation...08:00
karbois the version available through the update-manager the final version, or the rc?08:00
xukunI think this has bees asked one or twice but what time is the release of 9.04?08:00
ActionParsnipmaximo: huh?08:00
BladeNBrocadedoes sudo cache the passwords of the user?08:00
ActionParsnip!isitout08:00
ubottuJaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+108:00
xukunActionParsnip, thanks08:00
ivokshas it been released yet? :)08:00
maximoActionParsnip: you know of school in toronto to learn linux (networking) ?08:00
maximothanks08:00
FlannelBladeNBrocade: for 10 minutes by default.  You can disable it if you'd like.08:01
ActionParsnipmaximo: no idea an, sorry08:01
BladeNBrocadeFlannel: yes yes i want to disable.. =)08:01
ActionParsnip*man08:01
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maximoActionParsnip: on line if any?08:01
FuruHi! does anyone know when today the 9.04 release is?:)08:01
ActionParsnipmaximo: i'm sure they exist but you may have to dig around08:01
FlannelBladeNBrocade: May I ask why?08:02
paul68!isitout08:02
ubottuJaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+108:02
ActionParsnippaul68: i'd put that on clipboard for a day or so ;)08:02
maximoActionParsnip: I see linuxquestions.org  <----seems to be good one08:02
BladeNBrocadeFlannel: where exactly does sudo cache this in memory? flat file? db file? im a little anal about that..08:02
paul68ActionParsnip: lol just a large popup when loging on to this channel would be more helpfull I guess08:03
FlannelBladeNBrocade: It doesn't cache the password.  It just caches the fact that you have valid permissions.08:03
BladeNBrocadeFlannel: i see08:03
paul68ActionParsnip: do you know how to become a registered ubuntu user?08:03
BladeNBrocadeFlannel: very interesting08:04
ActionParsnip!register08:04
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname . Registration help available in #freenode08:04
ActionParsnippaul68: other than that, no idea08:04
paul68ActionParsnip: ok thanks08:04
KingKimi!netboot > Kimi08:04
ActionParsnippaul68: i can't see it achieving much. I registered myself as a Linux user agaes ago. i think it was on distrowatch08:04
ikoniaKingKimi: your account is kingkimi - not kimi08:05
KingKimi!netboot > KingKimi08:05
ubottuKingKimi, please see my private message08:05
KingKimiikonia, thanks.. it was my habit.... but now i registered nick as kingkimi as kimi is already taken08:05
paul68ActionParsnip: ok no worries08:06
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Aggrav8dplease:  i want to modify the /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd start to add some parameters.  where do i find the bash script that is being run?08:07
Aggrav8di mean, where do i find the line with the parameters?08:08
rumpel@ Aggrav8d it is a script itself08:08
BladeNBrocadeFlannel: Defaultstimestamp_timeout = 008:08
BladeNBrocade?08:08
FlannelBladeNBrocade: timestamp_timeout = 008:08
FlannelBladeNBrocade: make sure you use visudo08:08
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BladeNBrocadeFlannel: ofcourse dude.. lol08:09
Aggrav8drumpel - i know .../init.d/pure-ftpd is a script, but i read it and couldn't find any mention of the parameters I wanted to change.  do you know where i should look to find them?08:09
ActionParsnip!bum | Aggrav8d08:09
ubottuAggrav8d: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto08:09
ActionParsnipAggrav8d: that may give some clues08:09
gartral2!info Nezuiz08:10
ubottuPackage Nezuiz does not exist in intrepid08:10
gartral2whats the name of that game >.<08:10
Gabz^laptopNexuiz ?08:10
nspbhayy08:10
axsd9d!nexuiz08:10
ubottuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php08:10
gartral2!info Nexuiz08:10
ubottuPackage Nexuiz does not exist in intrepid08:10
ActionParsnipgartral2: check out penumbra as well. Awesome game08:11
ActionParsnipgartral2: pretty scary stuff08:11
gartral2eh, not my style, whatss nexuiz like?08:12
BladeNBrocadestarwars --> "telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl"08:12
anglomerci08:14
blapwhat do you guys believe the most used theme for emerald is?08:14
sriramomanwhat time will jaunty-ubuntu mostly be released08:15
g4lt-lappyStrider^, the same time that /topic states08:15
g4lt-lappysriramoman, ^^^^^08:15
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sriramomang4lt-lappy, it doesnt state the time...08:16
sriramomanoh sorry08:16
DaveWMhow would i go about installing just a base system of the ubuntu install,  so basically i'd have a basic shell and apt-get to work my way up to a custom install ?08:17
DaveWMi've done it with debian plenty of times,  but i'm thinking of making the switch08:17
* sriramoman is eagerly waiting for jaunty's release08:18
g4lt-lappyDaveWM, try the server install, it's about as stripped as you can get08:18
FlannelDaveWM: Grab the alternate CD.  From the alternate CD you can do a "command line only" install, and then you can install whatever GUI, etc you want ontop of it.08:18
DaveWMkewl08:18
kjkjlmy desktop effects are not functioning. so i want to know if a program like blender which might use alot of graphics will it work in my ubuntu.08:18
DaveWMfriend of mine just linked me to this "Ubuntu 8.10 "Intrepid Ibex" Minimal CD 9.9MB"08:18
chordoggg4lt-lappy: server install has tweaks to the kernel that might not be suitable for desktop installations, no?08:18
DaveWMthat may be about what i need i suppose08:19
DaveWMheh08:19
FlannelDaveWM: The primary mode of the alternate CD installs a standard desktop system, command line only is... under an f4 or f5 menu at boot.08:19
Romanjfjf08:19
raseel@DaveWM: Can you share that link08:19
FlannelDaveWM: minimal will work too.  It's just the alternate CD without the packages on the CD itself.08:19
Flannel!minimal | DaveWM, raseel08:19
ubottuDaveWM, raseel: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD08:19
DaveWMhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD08:19
Romandoes anyone know how to convert a .ogg file into a mp4 file08:19
g4lt-lappychordogg, given most "servers" you see in production aare just recycled desktops, no08:19
DaveWMyeah,  which is pretty much what i wanted08:19
raseelubottu: Oh.. It's like a netinstall CD ?08:20
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:20
gartral2roman, what are you throwing the music into that it needs to be mp4, an ipod?08:20
DaveWMcause atm,  when i install debian,  i use the netinst,  and skip the install tasks at the end,  which leaves me with base system,  networking,  apt...08:20
chordoggg4lt-lappy: i read that the ubuntu kernel for servers modifies the scheduler, and such08:20
kjkjlhow do i know if blender would work in my system wothout risking a crash08:20
g4lt-lappychordate, so does medibuntu, and that's for desktops...08:20
jdowniewhat's the eta of the 9.04 torrent being seeded?08:21
Flanneljdownie: Sometime before its the 24th everywhere.08:21
kjkjlhow do i know if a program would work in ubuntu without risking a crash08:21
chordoggg4lt-lappy: interesting08:21
FlannelDaveWM: The minimal (and alternate) CD uses debian-installer, so you can get into expert mode and do it all that way if you'd like as well.08:22
kjkjlhelp08:22
DaveWMsweet08:22
DaveWMto be honest,  i'd been bad mouthing ubuntu along with others for a while... and really the only reason is that i find the standard install a bit bloated...  which isnt really a good reason,  cause most distributions fall under that category with a default installation08:23
DaveWMand its apparent that ubuntu repo's rule,  and you can find information specifically reguarding ubuntu much easier than any other distribution08:23
DaveWMheh08:23
* g4lt-lappy typically recommends "install everything and the kitchen sink" unless you know what you're doing08:23
ActionParsnipDaveWM: i find the standard install bloated too, I have a script to wrench about half the installed apps08:24
raseelThe update-manager shows "9.04" is available, is this the RC or the final release ?08:24
DaveWMyeah08:24
chronicpirateDaveWM: you can alsways remove packages you don't want to make it not bloated.08:24
chronicpirateof course you might as well just install clean debian if you wanna do that :\08:24
DaveWMi've been more of a windows geek for years,  and windows is the king of bloat,  so i think i should ease up on ubuntu08:24
DaveWMhehe08:24
ActionParsnipDaveWM: most of the stuff is standard, like configuring apache will be identical in all linuxes08:25
ActionParsnipDaveWM: and samba08:25
DaveWMyeah,  clean debian is ok,  but its nice to have ubuntu's support at hand08:25
DaveWMheh08:25
chronicpiratemeh windows isnt THAT bloated if you install it yourself and don't buy it pre-installed with all the other crap pc companies wanna throw at you08:25
DaveWMi dunno,  i've found a ton of things that i can rip out of a basic windows install08:26
DaveWMand alot of things to disable as well08:26
DaveWMheh08:26
ActionParsnipchronicpirate: a standard vista install takes 7Gb08:26
chronicpirateDaveWM: true... but any type of issue you're having with debian the ubuntu team could help with08:26
chronicpirateubuntu == debian with packages pre-installed08:26
zipperDaveWM, You could always install ubuntu using the alternative cd. That allows you to do a very minimal install and then pick each of the packages you want afterwards08:26
chronicpirateanyway you'd go about troubleshooting is essentially the same08:26
ActionParsnipchronicpirate: my ubuntu + office productivity +a whole slew of stuff vista doesnt have....2.6Gb08:26
chronicpirateexpecially since 99% of the time they make you do terminal commands to fix things08:26
SealedWithAKissI'm using Ubuntu 8.04. When trying to play music using Frostwire for example, whilst YouTube is open, the sound doesn't work. And when trying to play YouTube videos, if another application that produces audio output is running, YouTube doesn't work. It's almost as though you can only have one sound output application open at a time. Does anybody know why this might be? Or how I can go about resolving it?08:26
DaveWMright,  i understand that,  but i still have a place for debian when i need the most minimal setup,  but i'm just saying i'm gonna give ubuntu a go with some customizing08:27
virohey guys is it dumb to think dvr comes with this bundle ? http://www.quicksnapper.com/viro/image/untitled08:27
ActionParsnipDaveWM: if you want minimal, try xpud08:27
virorandom turtle!08:27
zipperI hear LFS is pretty minimal....08:27
ActionParsnipDaveWM: boots in 4 seconds here08:27
SealedWithAKissIn continuation, sometimes the sound screws up altogether, and doesn't work until I reboot.08:27
gartral2TinyCORE!08:27
Flannel!offtopic08:28
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!08:28
DaveWMdude,  that's actually pretty neat looking,  i'm always looking or distributions like that to play around with08:28
ronald1Hello to all. Short question: the countdown for 9.0.4 was 0 today. What does "comming soon" mean? Later Today, Tomorrow or later08:28
DaveWMthat does look ideal for making an old junk box into something useful08:28
DaveWMheh08:28
DaveWMxpud that is08:28
DaveWMnever heard of it before08:28
zaggynlSealedWithAKiss: sounds like the mixer part of your sound system isn't working08:28
zipperronald1, i see you did a great job on reading the topic =P08:28
zaggynl!mixer08:28
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about mixer08:28
DaveWMi'll check that out for sure08:29
gartral2theres also the ubuntu fork, crunchbang...08:29
SealedWithAKisszaggynl, how would I go about resolving that?08:29
silver_swordswhere's 9.04 ?08:29
DaveWMthat might be neat as an extra boot option on my eee pc for when all i wanna do is browse or play media08:29
zippersilver_swords, i see you did a great job on reading the topic =P08:29
stevecccsilver_swords: i was just thinking the same thing - do we have to wait for the whole world to enter the 23rd before the files appear?08:29
zaggynlSealedWithAKiss: sound mixing can be done by software, audiopulse or even alsa has that afaik, I'd try searching the ubuntuforums with your soundcard info in the query08:29
ActionParsnipDaveWM: true, its a bit young yet but keep an eye on it08:29
Flannelsilver_swords, ronald1: It'll be released at some point within the next 27 hours.  Please join #ubuntu-release-party to keep track.08:29
DaveWMyeah08:29
Flannelzipper: Please be polite.08:30
DaveWMwhat's the one i'm thinking...08:30
DaveWMgimme a sec08:30
silver_swordsthnx08:30
zipperFlannel, I am being polite. I'm just stating the obvious08:30
DaveWMkind of makes me think of gOS08:30
Flannelzipper: Alright, lets try this then: Don't be a dick.08:30
DaveWMwhich i havent tried either08:30
DaveWMbrowser based OS is what it looks like from description08:31
steveccczipper: i didnt see a problem in your comment08:31
ronald1@Flannel Thanks! @zipper it would me a good one to set the info from Flannel in the topic!08:32
g4lt-lappyFlannel, taht's nice advice, when were you planning on following it yourself?08:33
ActionParsniphaha08:34
FlannelActionParsnip: that's not necessary.08:34
SealedWithAKisszaggynl, thanks.08:36
FalstafIs Ubuntu 9.04 ready yet?08:37
ActionParsnipwhat are hard drive reserved blocks actually for?08:37
sdakposFalstaf: read topic08:37
ActionParsnip!isitout08:37
ubottuJaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+108:37
BIGSEXhey guys08:37
BIGSEXanyone here dual boot with XP?08:38
linnyhas 9.04 been delayed ?08:38
ActionParsnip!anyone | BIGSEX08:38
ubottuBIGSEX: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?08:38
Linuxrevolutionhi all08:38
Linuxrevolutionhow to convert WMA to MP3?08:38
Kanillayou use google08:38
Anklarhali08:38
BIGSEXHow much disk space do you need to partition off to install ubuntu with XP?08:38
ActionParsnipLinuxrevolution: i'd imagine mencoder would play a big part08:39
ActionParsnipKanilla: you could answer any question with that08:39
chronicpirateummm.. I'd say 7GB is pretty decnet size + 1-3GB for swap08:39
linnyLinuxrevolution: http://kozgun.net/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Linux.Wma2Mp3 any help ?08:39
chronicpiratedepedning on how much you're going to install on it08:39
KanillaActionParsnip: yes, yes you could08:39
BIGSEXthanks chron08:39
LinuxrevolutionActionParsnip: whats mencoder?08:39
chronicpiratesure :)08:39
ActionParsnipKanilla: so saying it is moot, and not helpful08:39
BIGSEXwoudl you recommend guided install?08:39
ActionParsnip!info mencoder08:39
ubottumencoder (source: mplayer): MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc2-0ubuntu17 (intrepid), package size 3681 kB, installed size 8544 kB08:39
BIGSEXwhere linux finds the partition/sets it up for you08:39
BIGSEXor would you suggest doing it manually?08:39
Linuxrevolutionlinny: oh thanks let me try it08:39
chronicpirateummmm.. not nessiceraly08:39
ActionParsnipLinuxrevolution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3779308:40
linnylinux make sure you have ffmpeg installed08:40
LinuxrevolutionActionParsnip: thanks alot08:40
chronicpiratefirst you ABSOUTLY must defrag windows to a point were ALL off it's data is continous08:40
chronicpirateas in the partition you cut off the end of the windows one will not have any thing on it08:40
BIGSEXabsolutely08:40
chronicpirateor it will fuck you royaly08:40
linny#08:40
BIGSEXi'm doing it on my old computer in case i do in fact fuck myself in a royal fashion08:41
Flannelchronicpirate: Please mind your language.08:41
gypsymaurohi08:41
kj4hello all08:41
BIGSEXwoops08:41
chronicpirateand if you know what you're doing I wouldn't use the guided08:41
ActionParsnipi personally recommend a clean install with intelligent partitioning of windows to leave free space for ubuntu08:41
chronicpirateoh sorry08:41
BIGSEXok08:41
kj4when can I download intrepid ignoramus?08:41
chronicpirateI've done it with windows on there aready08:41
BIGSEXand no problems?08:41
kj4i'm sure thats the question of the evening08:41
MadpilotBIGSEX, mind finding a nick that doesn't offend, pls?08:41
chronicpiratebut I knew hwat I was doing08:41
chronicpiratereally not that hard08:41
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chronicpirateyou just use the partioin app in the live boot version and cut off the end of your windows partition08:41
LARGEFAMILYGETTOthere we go08:41
LARGEFAMILYGETTOwoops08:42
LARGEFAMILYGETTOthat failed08:42
Linuxrevolutionlinny: there is a problem here08:42
kj4LARGEFAMILYGETTO, i'm offended08:42
gypsymauroI know it's a silly question but on saturday we have a Free Software event so I want to prepare 5 notebook with the latest ubuntu (9.04) and I know that tomorrow and the other days the download will be impossible.. is the RC the nearest version of the final one? or there are daily snapshots?08:42
Linuxrevolutionlinny: Error while decoding stream #0.008:42
LARGEFAMILYGETTOits supposed to say large family get together08:42
chronicpiratemount it to like /mount/windows and then the root to / and oh yeah make a bit off the endo f your new partition to be swap and set it to /swap08:42
Kanillai think getto is better08:42
chronicpiratebut It wouldn't be a bad idea to do it all clean08:42
Madpilotgypsymauro, if you installed the RC then updated, you'd get the final08:42
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St3v3alright08:43
St3v3thanks a lot chronic08:43
kj4Madpilot, are you sure bout dat?08:43
chronicpirateheh no wories08:43
LinuxrevolutionActionParsnip: I've seen this page in ubuntuforums but when I convert file output is just a 5 KB file size :/08:43
chronicpirateif it fucks up you're no worse off then doing fresh anyway :D08:43
Madpilotkj4, yes.08:43
chronicpiratethat's the good news08:43
chronicpirateoh god08:43
St3v3that's true08:43
FloodBot2chronicpirate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.08:43
kj4when can i downlaod the release?08:43
Seeker`!language | chronicpirate08:44
ubottuchronicpirate: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.08:44
sdakpostomorrow08:44
St3v3man, the moderating is intense here08:44
chronicpiratesorry it's hard to stop cussing.. most of the networks I use don't mind :)08:44
kj4what time tomorrow?08:44
St3v3chron, have you tried running a liveUSB at all?08:44
chronicpirateSt3v3: nope08:44
MadpilotSt3v3, it's a release day and there's 1500 in this channel. Normally it's a bit more relaxed...08:44
sdakposkj4: tomorrow.. anytime.. because it will be available sometime today08:44
kj4bye you bastidges08:44
St3v3Mad:fair enough, thanks for the info08:45
Linuxrevolutionlinny: ffmpeg is installed08:45
chronicpirateonly problem with that is the mobo on the computer you're using has to both be able to boot from usb and have it set to boot from that before a hdd08:45
chronicpirateso if it's your own thing it's fine08:45
St3v3chron: right, i've read a ton about it, and i've tried it, my comp is completely capable of booting from a USB but it still says that theres no OS on the pen drive08:45
chronicpiratebut if you like wanna take it on the go for troubleshooting for work/fun or to use it at public places like school it might not work08:45
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chronicpiratehmmm08:46
chronicpiratedon't know then.. I've never tried it myself08:46
sdakposkj4: what does it mean? as you can guess i'm not a native english speaker ;p08:46
St3v3yeah, i was hoping it'd be easier than it is, i just wanna try the OS out for a while with a persistent install before i go headfirst and possibly erase a hard drive08:46
chronicpirateSt3v3: you just thowing an iso on there or you actually installing it there08:46
St3v3just putting the iso on08:47
ActionParsnipLinuxrevolution: you need something like that. Try: http://freshmeat.net/projects/audio-convert08:47
chronicpiratethat's your problem08:47
St3v3well i mean08:47
chronicpirateit's a file that way08:47
St3v3right08:47
chronicpirateyour usb stick won't mount it like it were a physical drive08:47
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St3v3i used the tool in ubuntu that makes a liveUSB which basically works like the liveCD but with a persistence loop08:47
chronicpirateneither will your mobo more the leiky08:47
Adalid_Negroi have 9.0408:47
storhaug3JAUNTY!!!!08:47
chronicpirateI think you can actually install it to the external device08:47
gypsymauroAdalid_Negro: ?08:48
Adalid_Negroyes you can obtain yet?08:48
Guest82508i guys...i have ubuntu 8.10 on my desktop and ubuntu 8.4 on my laptop.....in ubuntu 8.10 if i set the terminal background ad "transparent" i can see the underground windows ( not only the wallpaper) how can i do the same in ubuntu 8.4????08:48
St3v3i've considered that, but i read it eventually krushes your stick from overuse08:48
Adalid_Negroi has downloadthis =)08:48
chronicpirateO_o08:48
Flannel!jaunty | Adalid_Negro, gypsymauro, storhaug308:48
ubottuAdalid_Negro, gypsymauro, storhaug3: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party08:48
sdakposkj4: and actuallty if you have older version of ubuntu you can run update-manager -d to update to 9.0408:48
chronicpirateit wouldn't be any worse then what you're doing dude08:48
LinuxrevolutionActionParsnip: hmmmmmmmmm I'll try it08:48
chronicpiratebe it an installed os or an image your computer sitll reads from it the same08:48
storhaug3aah thank you for pointing me to #ubuntu-release-party08:49
chronicpiratewhen you use a live disk it accesses the dvd/cd just as if it were on a hdd08:49
St3v3fair enough, wouldn't a 4gb stick be pushing it a little though?08:49
chronicpiratethat's why it's all so slo08:49
Adalid_Negroi have iso (not RC)08:49
chronicpiratena man08:49
chronicpirateit would be basically the exact same thing08:49
St3v3sweeeet08:49
chronicpiratebut you could actualy save stuff08:49
ActionParsnipSt3v3: my / partition is only using 2.6Gb08:49
chronicpirateand not start from scratch every time08:49
St3v3right08:49
St3v3well08:49
St3v3the liveUSB thing actually has a persistence loop so it saves changes08:50
chronicpirateohhh08:50
Adalid_Negrowell nowhere taht lke the new iso...?08:50
chronicpirateI see08:50
ActionParsnipSt3v3: just remember to read through    dpkg -l | less08:50
St3v3but08:50
FlannelAdalid_Negro: This channel is not for the discussion of the release of Jaunty.  Please head to the appropriate channel. Also, 9.04 is not released yet.  Thanks.08:50
storhaug3Adalid_Negro: the latest daily release is probably the same as 9.04 final if you want it that bad08:50
ActionParsnipSt3v3: and remove all the stuff you dont use08:50
kjkjlactionparsnip any idea about how to check if the drivers are installed properly08:50
ActionParsnipkjkjl: sudo lshw -C <something>08:50
ActionParsnipkjkjl: depends for what piece of hardware08:50
kjkjlis there any reference for these commands08:51
Adalid_Negrosorry flanel, i can obtain a copy and i would help08:51
chronicpirateI'd try an actual install on the stick cause even so it's still going to access it the same weahter it's live or actually installed on there08:51
St3v3alright, i'll definitely try that, that's the only reason i bought that stick anyways08:51
chronicpirateand flash memory is really realiable so you'd have to use it a LOT to wear it out08:51
ActionParsnipkjkjl: man <command>08:51
St3v3awesome08:51
kjkjlactionparsnip i am unable to enable desktop effects inubuntu so wondering whats wrong with my computer08:52
chronicpirateI mena I sill have ps2/1 memory cards that are running perfect and those are like 6=7 years old08:52
ActionParsnipkjkjl: theres even man man   but no man woman08:52
St3v3if i do a full install on the stick don't i have to change some advanced option at the end regarding where the GRUB goes?08:52
ActionParsnipkjkjl: you need to install video drivers08:52
chronicpirateSt3v3: not sure. never done it myself but I would assume so08:52
ActionParsnipkjkjl: what is the output of   lspci | grep -i vga08:52
chronicpirateI recall there being an "Install to external device" option but I might be wrong08:52
ActionParsnip!usb08:52
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent08:52
St3v3oh man08:53
chronicpiratethere you go08:53
St3v3e-help08:53
sdakposhttp://byy.pl/Ubuntu904/08:53
ActionParsnipSt3v3: you can pay for phone help if you wish08:53
St3v3nah, i'm good, just wanted to see if there was more info on it. i'm just trying to exhaust every option short of dual booting for now08:54
chronicpirateSt3v3: you got more then one HDD?08:54
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ActionParsnipSt3v3: well, why do you need XP?08:54
kjkjlactionparsnip 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)08:54
St3v3chron: no, i don't. i'm thinking about "dual booting" by using an external eventually08:54
ActionParsnipkjkjl: ok now you have that you can websearch how to set it up08:55
ActionParsnipi gotta go check some web interfaces real quick08:55
St3v3and AP: i've been using windows all my life and all of my work is on it, i'm not ready to just throw it all out the window08:55
chronicpirateI still got windows for games08:55
St3v3exactly08:55
chronicpirateI don't care if you CAN get them to run on linux either08:55
chronicpiratethey still don't run as well as natively08:56
St3v3i couldn't agree more. i mostly need linux to run some crazy fmri software. everything else is staying on windows08:56
DaveWMok,  so i'm looking for an ubuntu flavor to put on a eee pc 901 that i just purchased for my mom,  there's so many netbook/mobile versions i don't know what to go with,  i just know she needs something intuitive and easy to use,  so far i'm stuck looking between eeebuntu,  ubuntu UMPC,  or easy peasy08:56
St3v3so i've heard08:56
chronicpirateand my old pc barely can run the games I got as it is08:56
DaveWManybody got any experience with those?  the interface os UMPC looks really nice08:56
DaveWMos=of08:56
St3v3you're tellin me, the laptop i'm trying to dualboot with has a 60gb (upgraded) hard drive and a broken fan. that's class.08:57
chronicpirateoh nice08:57
St3v3it struggled to run tribes 208:57
St3v3if that gives you any indication08:57
ssndoes anyone know how to restore grub if all linux partitions are deleted (just windows left)?08:57
chronicpiratelike I said though you should just try the dual boot what I told ya earlier.. if it messes up you're no worse off then doing it fresh :)08:57
St3v3absolutely, thanks so much for the advice chron08:58
chronicpirateso long as you make sure it's properly defragged and you don't mount the windows drive to / when you install you're good08:58
andreas                               gkehg08:58
andreasrusss08:58
andreasrtuu08:58
andreaswwww4eyu08:58
andreasruujWSE08:58
FloodBot2andreas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.08:58
chronicpirateeven if something goes awry you sill have your windows data and can use fixmbr to get it back08:58
chronicpiratemost cases anyway08:59
St3v3haha, from what i've read it sounds like when you screw with the MBR a little things get all wild08:59
chronicpiratena.. sometimes grub can mess up but if you use windows xp as a boot disk and fix your mbr it's good as new09:00
ssnchronicpirate: its vista and i dont have a windows boot cd at hand09:00
kjkjlin the terminal it say press return but thre is no return labelled key on my keyboard09:01
chronicpirateif you know hwat you're doing you can even manually edit your boot.ini file using ubuntu live after it's already installed to it's own partitin and set up dual boot hat way09:01
chronicpirateoh09:01
chronicpiratewait?09:01
chronicpiratessn?09:01
ssnhow do i restore the mbr with knoppix and doesnt this make things worse?09:01
FloodBot2chronicpirate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.09:01
ssnchronicpirate: yes?09:01
ipatelquick ? guys.... any news on 9.04 (meant to be released today)09:01
chronicpirateSt3v3 didn't change his nick09:01
chronicpiratessn: um I wasn't really talking to you but I don't know09:01
chronicpiratedon't use vista09:01
chronicpiratemight use windows 7 but xp is my choice for now09:02
kjkjlwhat is the return key09:02
ssnchronicpirate: i have to (you can by me a mac if you want to)09:02
linnyi have rtorrent running in a dedicated server under the user rt the files go to /home/rt/torrents/done/ how can i make it so new files written in here by rtorrent can be deleted via the wtorrent frontend atm i can only delete them via ssh sudo09:02
St3v3i'm running vista on this machine, but the one i'd dual booting with is XP09:02
Nytrixwas not ubuntu 9.04 suppose to be released on the 22nd of this month?09:02
chronicpiratessn: http://www.vistaheads.com/forums/microsoft-public-windows-vista-general/26168-fix-mbr-vista.html09:02
chronicpiratethat should help09:02
Flannel!party | Nytrix09:03
ubottuNytrix: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties09:03
ssnchronicpirate: i have no X09:03
chronicpirateNytrix: it was the 23rd actually09:03
kjkjlchronicpirate what is the return key09:03
linnyNytrix: 23rd it was09:03
ssnsince my knoppix is broken09:03
ssncann you tell me what it says?09:03
chronicpirateno X?09:03
chronicpirateoh09:03
chronicpiratelol09:03
chronicpirateI got ya09:03
ssnknoppix from usb stick09:03
FloodBot2chronicpirate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.09:03
linnyyou guys know what day it is09:03
chronicpirateyou need to use your vista disk09:03
ssnno X anymore after apt-get upgrade09:03
ssnhm09:03
linnyITS ST GEORGES DAY !09:03
kjkjlubottu what is  the retun key09:04
linny:)09:04
ubottuI am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)09:04
kjkjlubottu what is the return key09:04
St3v3is that a serious question?09:04
chronicpirateor09:04
chronicpirateBootrec.exe /FixMbr09:04
chronicpirateBootrec.exe /FixBoot09:04
chronicpirateBootrec.exe /ScanOs09:04
chronicpirateBootrec.exe /RebuildBcd09:04
FloodBot2chronicpirate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.09:04
chronicpirate+09:04
chronicpiratesorry meant to pm that all09:04
FloodBot2!netsplit09:04
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit09:04
ssnchronicpirate: thx. now if i had the vista boot disk at hand :D09:05
ShabooCan anyone tell me what time .... kidding, actually I was wondering if anyone could tell me if there's a way to power a usb device on and off from the commandline.  I have a 3g modem that get's stuck and I want to create a script that  re-powerd it when it fies09:05
chronicpiratelol... yeah you need the repair console09:05
chronicpirateor whatever09:05
kjkjlis backspace and return key the same09:05
ZhouYui am trying to zip a svn folder... i am using "zip -r test.zip svnfolder" .. but when i download it, it said that Cannot create PHP Cake.tmbundle\Snippets\$html->getCrumbs(GǪ).tmSnippet09:05
maximohttp://www.ubuntu.com/comingsoon09:05
St3v3kjkjl:09:05
ZhouYui meant when i extracted it09:05
St3v3NO09:05
ssni hate windows :D but it is jauntys fault really09:05
ssnthe rc messed up my old install09:05
kjkjlst3v3 what is the return key09:06
St3v3i personally like windows... and i like vista... oh god09:06
St3v3return key=enter key09:06
kj4kjkjl your nick is one off from my callsign09:06
ipatelquit09:06
Rapachooiealoha all09:06
kjkjlkj4 i dont understand what u said09:06
Rapachooieprobably asked a million times but...09:06
chronicpirateoh here it comes09:06
chronicpiratedon't ask09:06
zirodayRapachooie: join the party in #ubuntu-release-party09:06
kj4kjkjl my ham callsign is KJ4KJL09:06
Rapachooie:)09:07
chronicpirateyou're gonna delay the release for an hour09:07
Rapachooielol09:07
BladeNBrocades/dows/blows/g09:07
Rapachooiealright ill shuttup and wait like everyone else :D cheers09:07
kjkjlkj4 does ham mean hamradio09:07
marcusdavidushello can i ask aboute jaunty ehere sience today realese?09:07
chronicpirateoh wait .. that's in release-party09:07
chronicpiratenot here09:07
geophoenixhello everyone09:07
Z_o-s-ojoin #releaseparty09:08
marcusdaviduschronicpirate:  but i got nasty critical stupid video choppy bug09:08
ttmrichterIs there any way to tell the Linux kernel to restrict the amount of RAM an individual application can use?  Firefox is leaking memory like a sieve and I'd like to finally just put a hard restriction on what it can take.09:08
geophoenixubuntu+1 isn't for the release ?09:08
chronicpiratetry #ubuntu-release-party09:08
Z_o-s-oahh thats the one09:08
Z_o-s-omy bad09:08
chronicpirate:P09:08
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ipatelquit09:09
ZhouYuwhy my zip file change a dot (.) into some weird characters ?09:11
gordonjcpttmrichter: ulimit possibly?09:11
timfrostgeophoenix: no, #ubuntu+1 will disappear once jaunty is official, because it is the channel for support of the development release09:12
ipatelmeta-k09:12
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alesantimfrost, so after jaunty they will stop ubuntu development?09:12
celthunderalesan, no09:13
ttmrichtergordonjcp: Interesting.  That's a shell built-in, right?  How would I go about invoking it from a desktop icon?09:13
kmkmkjdwhat time will 9.4 be released?09:13
ipatelhelp09:13
alesancelthunder, so can you explain timfrost's statement?09:13
rm-fno hes saying that after it is officially released they would close that room.. as that room is devoted to the development version09:13
zirodaykmkmkjd: never at this rate, join the part in #ubuntu-release-party09:13
timfrosttry '/j #release-party' (w/o quotes) to join the release party,09:13
zirodaytimfrost: the place is #ubuntu-release-party09:14
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alesanrm-f, that implies ubuntu development will stop09:14
celthunderalesan, the channel for jaunty will become this one and then there WILL BE no new version yet so they cant have a ubuntu+1 channel when there is no beta out for the next release once a new beta is available they will reopen +1 channel09:14
Flannelalesan: They stop development for about a month.09:14
etbhi, anyone used google gadgets? how do i install a .gg gadget/09:14
etb?09:14
alesanFlannel, that explains everything09:15
zirodayetb: using screenlets or google gadgets.09:15
alesanFlannel, has Mark announced +2 yet?09:15
timfrostalesan: thanks.  No wonder #release-party is deserted09:15
Flannelalesan: Karmic Koala?09:15
alesanFlannel, I mean K* ?09:15
zirodayalesan: you mean karmic?09:15
james7493alesan: Immediately after jaunty gets released there is no development version to support, since nothing would be done yet. +2 is Karmic Koala, it has been announced.09:15
etbziroday: yeah using google gadgets. how?09:15
zirodayetb: I have no idea, never used them09:15
alesanFlannel, I guess the answer is yes then :) do you have a handy link to the announcement?09:16
Aeosynthdoes anyone know what time 9.04 will be released?09:16
zirodayAeosynth: never, join the party in #ubuntu-release-party09:16
Flannelalesan: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000536.html09:16
alesanthanks09:16
zirodayalesan: you might also want to read through mark shuttleworths blog09:16
MaximoAeosynth: it just say on the website ---> coming soon09:16
AeosynthMaximo: exactly. no timestamp.09:18
kmkmkjdanyone know if 9.4 comes with latest boost libs?09:18
MaximoAeosynth: Exactly09:18
Maximono time09:18
GutZuWiSSeNanyone know the system-monitor addon on the right side in this screenshot? http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=3&id=92197&file1=92197-1.jpg&file2=&file3=92197-3.jpg&name=BlackLine209:18
zirodayThere is no "set time", it will come out when its ready.09:18
zirodayGutZuWiSSeN: conky09:19
MaximoAeosynth: just be patient you not going anywhere...just read the blog for timebeing09:19
GutZuWiSSeNziroday: thx09:19
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EnissayIs there a way to change transmission's interface... personalise it?09:22
zirodayEnissay: no09:22
EnissayxD.... ok09:22
zirodayEnissay: but you can use a different bittorrent client if you would prefer. There are a quite a few09:22
mandingoceocan any1 help me with an issue with my sound card i keep loosing it under 81009:23
chronicpiratesome people like to hate on it cause it uses a lot of memory as it's writen in java09:23
Enissayzined, I know... i'll try another one09:23
chronicpiratebut azureus/vuze is actually pretty decent.. if you disable a bunch of features and use classic ui09:23
chronicpirateor you can always run ktorrent or utorrnet in wine09:23
chronicpiratein fact.. they just releases a osx beta09:24
chronicpiratethat "might" run okay if you can get it to install09:24
chronicpiratemax is just unix09:24
ElikaHello.  Anyone know of any IRC channels relating to the series .hack// ?09:24
pjfry1I was just at the 9.04 release party channel but I can't remember the name ... would someone post it for me,09:24
chronicpirate#ubuntu-release-party09:24
mandingoceocan any1 help me with an issue with my sound card i keep loosing it under 81009:24
groppojoin #ubuntu-release-party09:24
ElikaThank you.09:25
fabzor3mandingoceo: have you tried ununstalling pluseaudio in synaptic?09:25
mandingoceono09:26
fabzor3i find pulseaudio caused problems with my alsa games09:26
fabzor3so yeah it might be worth a shot09:26
mandingoceoill try it09:26
fabzor3gl09:26
mandingoceo1 reboot its there then next its gone09:26
fabzor3mandingoceo: whats gone?09:27
ElikaI was suggested to the wrong room.  I will have to make one of my own entitled #dothack//room09:27
tooldoes anyone have experience with mounting hard drives?09:28
kjkjli typed sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel  to get drivers and itis stuck at 49%.what do i do09:28
krautmoin09:28
dn4anyone know where I can get a free laptop with ubuntu on it?09:28
_g0tmi1k_lol09:28
fabzor3lolololo0l dn409:28
fabzor3heaven?09:28
kjkjldn4 free laptop???09:28
chronicpiratekjkjl: try removing it and installing it agian :\09:28
chronicpirateor just wait09:28
mandingoceothe sound card phonmon what ever it is reports that its unistalled09:28
francishow many do u want dn4?09:28
dn4just 109:28
francislol09:29
un_davehi all09:29
anooptphai everybody09:29
francisonly 1 free laptop?09:29
fabzor3might be faulty hardware09:29
dn4francis, yeah I need one to write up my lab reports on the go09:29
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fabzor3free?!@!?!?!09:29
anooptpi have a sound problem09:29
francislol09:29
un_davei'm attempting to update an instance of 7.10 ubuntu, but getting lots of errors when i try to sudo apt-get update09:29
fabzor3i worked scrubbing the floor for 4 weeks to save up for my laptop09:29
anooptppls help me09:30
fabzor3so good luck getting one for free09:30
anooptpis anybody there09:30
corinth!patience09:30
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines09:30
shadeslayeranooptp: sure09:30
corinth!ask09:30
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)09:30
* dn4 must assert patience with achieving a laptop without spending money on one09:31
anooptpshadeslaye i have a sound problem09:31
alphanumeric123so, jaunty's almost out09:31
un_daveit seems the servers are givign 404 errors, how can i update them ?09:31
shadeslayeranom01y: intel HDA?09:31
Flannelun_dave: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?09:31
corinthalphanumeric123: Jaunty won't be out for another week now09:31
alphanumeric123why?09:32
anooptpich509:32
un_davethe server i'm attempting to update is currently 7.1009:32
corinthJ/k :-P09:32
medehello everyone09:32
un_daveFlannel: ^09:32
medeany idea on how to config multi edubuntu server09:32
shadeslayerum no idea on that one09:32
Flannelun_dave: 7.10 reached EOL on april 18th.  As far as I'm aware, the archive.ubuntu.com mirror is still up.  You need to upgrade to 8.04 though, since you're not getting any updates.09:32
lizzzzarddn4: are you writing up your labs report for university? -- maybe they have laptops for students that you can use? my university borrows laptops to students for large projects.09:33
anooptpshadeslaye. no mute in keyboard,alsa channel mix selected,sound card detected09:33
toolknowledge on hard drives,.. anyone?09:33
Geoffrey2I was using gparted, a resize operation didn't work, and now on startup I'm getting the following error message during during the disk check.... fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=187f9392-c391-4723-9251-8ad7505f8f2d'09:33
un_daveFlannel: i figured i'd apply the 7.10 updates first?09:33
un_daveFlannel: before i updated it to 8.0409:33
Flannelun_dave: Yes, you need to be up to date.  Try switching your mirrors to archive.ubuntu.com09:33
Geoffrey2fsck died with exit status 809:33
anooptpshadeslaye  r u tere???09:34
dn4lizzzzard, yes; and yes they have that here as well09:34
un_daveFlannel: ok, will try that now09:34
un_davebrb09:34
medeany idea on how to config multi edubuntu server09:34
shadeslayeranooptp: yep09:34
medeany idea on how to config multi thin clinet server09:34
shadeslayeranooptp: try the wiki and forums too09:34
rhavenwhi,09:34
medeany idea on how to config multi thin client server09:34
rhavenwcan someone point me in the best direction for connecting a pocketpc WM6 to a pc running ubuntu,09:35
un_daveFlannel: ok, i cant see any options to select the archive sources in the "Software Sources" dialoge09:36
Flannelun_dave: You may have to manually edit your sources.list09:36
lizzzzarddn4: that is the only way I can think of to get your hands on a free laptop -- though it would not technically be yours of course. If all else fails, you might want to consider a netbook like the asus eeepc, they are cheaper, but they are ok for simpler jobs like writing things down. And ubuntu runs fine on them with a few (well documented) tweaks.09:36
shadeslayeranooptp: btw did you try setting everything in the volume mixer to high? PCM and master?09:36
dn4sweet lizzzzard thanks for the info09:37
un_daveFlannel: ok, i'm fine with that. could you tell me what lines to add?09:37
Flannelun_dave: um, well, pastebin it, and we'll take a look.09:37
dn4lizzzzard, do you know of any tablets that ubuntu runs on nicely?09:37
syntax\guys, has anyone tried using pidgin to access openfire(xmpp) intranet messaging?09:37
francismacbook air09:37
francis:P09:37
syntax\im so soo lost.09:38
_g0tmi1k_lost wasnt on last night!09:38
francis:o09:38
egoistit was lost09:38
alphanumeric123anyone got the date for the final jaunty release? or is it like midnight tonight09:38
Flannel!isitout | alphanumeric12309:39
ubottualphanumeric123: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+109:39
alphanumeric123ok09:39
egoistWell, there is a predetermined time, the 23rd?09:39
alphanumeric123!isitout | Flannel09:39
ubottuFlannel: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+109:39
lizzzzarduhh I have not considered a tablet pc, so I don't know any specific model. But if you consider buying one of those be sure to check out the ubuntu forums online to see what problems people are having. sometimes there are also wiki pages for a special type of notebook/tablet/netbook, I know there is one for the eeepc. Just google for the name of the device and ubuntu, that works pretty well for me09:39
kjkjlchronipirate u around09:40
kjkjlchronicpirate09:41
lizzzzardI love how you guys have macros for annoying questions, that sure beats getting unpatient and maybe unfriendly towards users09:41
kjkjlwhat is the meaning of ldconfig deferred processing now taking place09:41
DaveWMheh09:42
ikoniakjkjl: it's re-caching the libarary paths09:42
dn4W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2DC432B13A5CB56009:42
dn4any ideas on how to get a public key?09:42
DaveWMwhat kind of macro's are we talking here?09:42
ikoniaDaveWM: key for what ?09:43
ikoniaDaveWM: sorry09:43
ikoniadn4: key for what ?09:43
kjkjlikonia i had typed sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel and afte several minutes it had showed that message that you explained. does that mean my driver si installed09:43
dn4The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2DC432B13A5CB56009:43
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slytherindn4: it depends on which PPA you are using09:43
dn4http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-dev/ppa/ubuntu/09:43
un_daveFlannel: still there? pastebin is http://pastebin.com/d340b90a609:44
ikoniakjkjl: that message has nothing to do with the xorg driver - don't worry about it09:44
ds_creamerI'm reading the man page but thought I might get a faster answer if I asked here too: What options do I need to call mount with to mount my USB flash drive?09:45
kjkjlbut what about the driver . how do i know its here09:45
ikoniakjkjl: if you installed the package - it's there09:45
dn4slytherin, I found out how to get it09:45
slytherinds_creamer: USB driver should get mounted automatically09:46
kjkjlyes now i can change the visual effects to normal . thanks ikonia ,chronicpirate and everyone09:46
slytherindn4: check here - https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+archive/ppa09:47
un_daveFlannel: pastebin is http://pastebin.com/d340b90a609:47
lizzzzarddn4: are you completely new to ubuntu?09:48
anooptpslytherin ihave a problem in sound09:48
dn4not quite lizzzzard09:48
anooptpcan u help me ?09:49
slytherinanooptp: I am not expert in sound, but I will try.09:49
anooptpi had no sound for last 3 day no mute in keyboard,alsa channel mix selected,sound card detected09:49
anooptpwen i use live cd there is sound09:50
slytherinanooptp: which version of Ubuntu?09:50
anooptpubuntu 809:50
Hetoranooptp: 8.10 or 9.04?09:51
syntax\neone here used openfire+pidgin?09:51
Hetor8.04*09:51
kjelleHello. How easy is it to change the Ubuntyu ISO image (let's say for Hardy) and include some of my own packages into the .ISO file, and having them automatically installed in the installer?09:51
anooptp8.1009:51
Hetorkjelle: I'm interested in this too09:51
anooptpHetor 8.1009:52
kjelleHetor: I know it's easy to change the ISO file09:52
kjelleHetor: but I would like to know where on the ISO do i change, so I can include  my own packages (without having to study the entire ISO myself)09:52
lizzzzardanooptp: one of my pcs hat something like this, one of the alsa channels that are not in the standard view was muted, and master did not change anything. have you tried selecting other channels? master/pcm and such? one of those worked for me.09:52
IvruHi there09:52
lizzzzardanooptp: mine is a sony laptop, which seemed to have that problem sometimes.09:53
anooptpslytheri  r u tere ?09:53
HetorI'd like to include own packages in installation CD too :P09:53
irmandosHetor:  ==> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html09:53
irmandoskjelle: ==> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html09:54
anooptplizzzzard  itried every thing master pcm.....09:54
IvruI've got a script (with tail -f) that I launch using an init.d. I want my script to keep running. To be sure of that, I use a cron that launch my init.d every minutes (if is script is already runing, then the init.d won't start it again). Is there another way (better way) to do this ?09:54
kjelleirmandos: thanks09:55
mikebeechamcan anyone tell me if Jaunty Jackal changed the way networking takes place?  I've been using GVFS until recently, but now I am using Jackal, it seems to be acting wierd all the time09:55
anooptpwere i get a solution?09:55
mikebeechamand now I have three icons for my mac mini...I only have 1 mac mini!09:56
anooptplizzzzarda  wen i use live cd there is sound09:56
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lizzzzardanooptp: died you try searching ubuntu forums and wiki pages? maybe if you are not english/american, also try those in your language?09:56
fakihh09:56
KeypadI just deleted over 500000 files from the trash around 60 gb worth, and its stuck on a XML file. what should I do ?09:57
DoloSo, I'm using Ubuntu (Gnome) on an Intel GMA945 graphics card, output to a 24" monitor (1920x1200) - the refresh is aweful, theres a lot of tearing etc.  Is this just 'cause the graphics card is gutless (it really is..), or is there a way to speed it up (e.g. proprietary drivers etc?)09:57
kjelleHetor: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html#preseed-other <- seems to be the spot!09:58
anooptplizzzzard sorry, i am new in upuntu09:58
francisubantu!09:58
anooptpplizzzzard   bye09:59
lizzzzardanooptp: yeah i've been new just some time ago -- i can only say forums and wiki help a lot10:01
anooptplizzzzard  ok bye, thaks alot10:01
thordoes 9.4 comes with the latest boost version?10:02
Neil3yahay 9.04 today B-)10:04
flavetiusciaoooooooooooooooooooooooo10:05
flavetiusciao ragazzi10:05
flavetiuscome faccio a fare l'automount di una partizione all'avvio10:05
Jordan_UDolo, What version of Ubuntu?10:06
flavetius9.1010:06
flavetius8.1010:06
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flavetiusaiuto10:07
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flavetiusff10:07
Master-MindHello there, someone knows where to get the new ubuntu 9.04 there was supposed to be released to day :) ?10:07
flavetiusc10:07
Light-Master-Mind, join #ubuntu-release-party10:08
haggisbasherukno... another bunny dead10:08
Le-Chuck_ITAHi all. My girlfriend is trying to bypass a proxy and she wants to use ssh as a socks proxy, so she only needs to reach the ssh server on port 80 that I setup on my pc. She used corkscrew and then ssh -D over it, but firefox will hang on the DNS search.10:08
irmandos!isitout | Master-Mind10:08
ubottuMaster-Mind: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+110:08
flavetiusr10:08
lizzzzardflavetius: http://ciaolinux.myblog.it/archive/2008/06/20/mount-automatico-delle-partizioni-all-avvio.html <- have you tried this?10:08
Le-Chuck_ITADo you know whether socks should also be used in firefox for dns queries?10:08
flavetiusthank you10:08
lizzzzardgoogle is your friend ;)10:09
ganeshwhen ll 9.04 be released..?its april 23rd today..10:09
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lizzzzard!sitout | ganesh10:09
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about sitout10:09
lizzzzard!isitout | ganesh10:09
ubottuganesh: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+110:09
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dimedoi cannot encrypt anything with gnupg anymore as it seems my own public key can no longer be found, but i should have both a private and a public key. any ideas? is it possible to re-generate a public key from the private key?10:12
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Plasticismjoin #lisp10:13
dexter47hello10:13
dexter47is this where i can get a little help with some isa net card? :-(10:14
Le-Chuck_ITAdimedo: do not think so10:14
dexter47hi10:14
Le-Chuck_ITAdimedo: forget it, that's just theory :) in fact I don't know10:14
drinkycrowhas anyone gotten sound to work in doom 3 with intrepid?10:15
dexter47do you have any idea where i can get some help with this?10:15
blameHi. There's no estimated time for the 9.04 release today?10:15
rumpelnow + x hours10:15
zaggynl!isitout | blame10:15
ubottublame: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+110:15
Canaenis it out yet?10:15
coffeeaddict221dexter47: ask away10:15
dexter47excuse me?10:16
coffeeaddict221whats the question?10:16
zaggynl!ask | dexter4710:16
ubottudexter47: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)10:16
joaopinto!clone10:17
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate10:17
mib_qr03iein how many hours jaunty will be released?10:17
girdyhey i have really slow wifi internet even with ipv6 blacklisted. anyone else have this?10:18
linnymib_qr03ie: how long is a piece of string10:18
shapeshed_anyone have experience of creating screencasts in ubuntu? istanbul, recordmydesktop or xvidcap?10:18
mib_qr03ielinny: ?10:18
d6chungmib_qr03ie: Join #ubuntu-release-party.10:18
boumaim trying to get java working in firefox.. ive followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java .. but it still doesnt work in firefox10:18
boumawhat package do i need ?10:19
d6chungbouma: For me, installing ubuntu-restricted-extras always did that for me.10:19
girdywas there an update to jaunty recently that broke the ath9k wireless drivers?10:20
dexter47i have an ISA IntelExpress 10, but ubuntu' won't even detect it. i want to make an internet connection sharing, so i will need 2 cards... this ISA, i can't use if ubuntu won't detect it. windows does detect it, and i can use it. so it works. any ideas?10:20
loafersI installed openbox on debian base without a desktop environment.  I installed xorg and setup my .xinitrc file, but debian does not startx everytime it boots, how do i fix this?10:20
vladimir_how to install picasa ? i add mediubuntu repository but i don't have picasa there10:20
girdydexter: whatever they say, don't use ndiswrapper. it is the worst written driver on the planet10:20
boumad6chung: ive got that installed.. should i reinstall it ?10:21
coffeeaddict221dexter47: does it show up on lshw?10:21
linnyvladimir_: get it from http://picasa.google.co.uk/10:21
drinkycrowi get sound in everything except doom 3, i've tried setting it to oss/alsa and running aoss doom 310:21
vladimir_ok, thanks linny10:21
dexter47girdy: ok... i'm not verry experienced, but i can handle this with some working ideas10:21
DaveCoanyone want any artwork?10:21
boumacan anyone help me get javaing working in firefox, ive got java-sun-6 installed.. and the ubuntu-restricted-plugins10:21
dexter47i tried some ubuntu forums, no luck10:21
drinkycrowmy card is an audigy 210:22
girdydexter47: sorry just thought i would save you the hassle10:22
ZiggiZahhello all! has 9.04 release yet? thoughts?10:22
girdydexter47: what was your card again/10:22
zaggynl!isitout | ZiggiZah10:22
ubottuZiggiZah: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+110:22
loafersbouma, get the IcedTea java plugin10:22
dexter47girdy: lshw? :D10:22
Dudefacebe patient10:22
dexter47what that?10:23
girdyyeah post that for me10:23
Mr_Kaizers3r3n1t7, are you around by any chance?10:23
boumaloafers: im using 64bit ubuntu. is icetea still the go? .. cant i use a sun jre ? is ice tea a opensource jre ?10:23
ZiggiZahthnx ubottu10:23
coffeeaddict221in a terminal.  It lists the hardware on your machine, will pick up if your card is recognised by Linux (even if a driver isn't present).10:24
dexter47girdy: i'm on my bro's pc, so it doesn't have isa support. i'll run the live cd from my pc, i'll get back to you soon10:24
girdyk10:24
girdywhy is my CPU throttling at 100% all the time?10:24
dexter47girdy: thanks10:24
loafersbouma, I am not qualified to say, but I had the exact same problem as you and everything worked fine after installing IcedTea.  And I think it is opensource, the description says its a temporary fork of OpenJDK10:25
girdysince an update in jaunty, i have the slowest wireless imaginable, no power-manager, and terrible battery life10:25
Anarkistlol10:25
bovvI need to find where the option for disabling Compviz is... what is the command-line command for getting to it?  (even if it opens the window, that's fine...)10:25
girdydoes anyone have any tips on how to speed up internet using ath9k drivers?10:25
Anarkistno wonder I was hesitatnt about upgrading10:25
slytheringirdy: what do you mean by no power-manager?10:25
ChrisOnFacebookHi10:25
slytherinbovv: I don't know command line. DOn't you have access to GUI?10:26
girdyslytherin: power manager is running, but my cpu is always at 100%10:26
girdyslytherin: regardless of load10:26
girdyslytherin: meaning the battery life on my laptop is like 30 minutes10:26
slytheringirdy: what has power manager got to do with CPU being at 100%. Looks like some process is eating CPU.10:26
ChrisOnFacebookDoes anybody can help me to set a conenction to a MySQL over SSH on a OpenSolaris server (Joyent) ?10:26
boumaloafers: ok surely you are joking.. ive got sun java 6 .. and also 5 aka 1.5 cause i need it for the intel idb.. which works.. but im still unable to get firefox java working10:27
boumaand i must say the web help is useless10:27
girdyslytherin: if you do sudo apt-get install powertop10:27
girdyslytherin: powertop shows you what mode your CPU is in.10:27
ownerWhen is it coming ?10:28
girdyslytherin: usually with nothing running, power-manager should "step down" the CPU frequency to save on battery10:28
Mr_KaizerI'm still having some issues with the desktop on my 8,10. After it's done booting, and I've logged on, the desktop won't apear most of the time, I just get the cream colored background. The times it does work, the screen first turns black with red flickering stripes, then the panels apear (or, the white outlines of them atleast). The icons gradualy apear, after about 10-15 min they're all there. Anyone have any suggestions?10:28
slytheringirdy: what does output of 'top' command tell you? which process is eating CPU?10:28
slytheringirdy: I don't believe power-manager does that.10:28
bovvslytherin: yeah, but I cannot find the option... :-(10:28
girdyslytherin: thank you soooo much10:28
dn4rm: cannot remove `Vagrant Records': Read-only file system10:29
bovvslytherin: idea... can you open the option and tell me what process is running?10:29
girdyslytherin: i had BOINC running in the background and i didn't even know it10:29
girdyslytherin: thanks man!10:29
slytherinbovv: System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects10:29
dn4how do I remove something on a Read-only file system10:29
loafersbouma, I'm not joking.  Like I said, I had the EXACT same problem as you did and was extremely annoyed.  So I clicked the icon that appears when you have insufficient requirements to run the applet and firefox recommended icedtea as the plugin to install and then it worked.  as for why java 6 runtime won't run the applets on firefox i am still just as clueless as you are.10:29
slytherindn4: you can't10:29
wlodiHi lads, I want to backup a 10GB directory. How can I overcome the tar 2GB limit?10:29
dn4slytherin, how do I re mount it as a file system where I can10:29
bovvslytherin: It should be there, but I am running in Japanese... and the option is MISSING.10:29
bouma is this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1102050, seriously necessary ??10:30
boumasurely someone has automated this10:30
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slytherinbovv: that shouldn't be the case.10:31
boumais it illegal to repackage suns 64bit java from a binary installer ??10:31
boumai dont understand10:31
bovvslytherin: it is.10:31
drone1slytherin: have you checked the /etc/fstab file?10:31
slytherindn4: which file system is read only?10:31
joaopintobouma, that procedure is not required  on the recent releases10:31
dn4slytherin, when jaunty auto mounts my usb drive the file system is vfat10:31
dn4it automounts it as read only10:32
bovvslytherin: so...  could you do the "System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects" and tell me what it is running, please?10:32
boumajoaopinto: can i simply apt-get a particular package ?10:32
joaopintobouma, yes, the java plugin package10:32
slytherindn4: surprising, never had that problem. Check on #ubuntu+1 if anyone else is facing same problem10:32
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slytherinbouma: how about sun-java6-plugins10:33
slytherinsun-java6-plugin (no s at the end)10:33
drone1slytherin: i believe the solution for your problem is here10:33
drone1MAN mount10:33
slytherindrone1: I am not the one having problem. It is dn410:34
drone1 sorry lol10:34
girdyhow can i tell what process is eating up all my network bandwith?10:34
drone1well dn4 check out MAN mount10:34
girdyis there a command in terminal i can type that will list processes by network usage?10:35
drone1it should guide you into mounting filesystems10:35
Ivrunetstat girdy10:35
drone1netstat10:35
Ivrugood name for network stat isn't it ?10:35
X3guys is it me or version 9,04 is due to be released today10:35
drone1lol10:35
sidewalkIvru: topic10:35
joaopintogirdy, iptraf is a good tool to identify bandwidth usage10:35
bovvslytherin: I understand that it doesn't make sense to you, but this config is what it is... I still need to disable Compviz... and the option is not visible.  Not my fault tha somebody packaged things this way.  But I really do need to disable Compviz and it would be really helpful if somebody usijng an English locale would help out with only the process program name so I came fix things here.10:36
girdyjoaopinto: is iptraf installed by default?10:36
Ivrusidewalk: it's X3 not me10:36
error404notfoundi have just installed swat on my hardy server, i can't access it either locally or remotely by going localhost:901 or host-name-here:901 or ip-here:90110:36
joaopintogirdy, no10:36
X3sorry missed that last line on topic10:37
X3though website news is set for the 23rd10:37
IvruI've got a script (with tail -f) that I launch using an init.d. I want my script to keep running. To be sure of that, I use a cron that launch my init.d every minutes (if is script is already runing, then the init.d won't start it again). Is there another way (better way) to do this ?10:37
girdywhen jaunty is "officially" released in here in a few hours, will there just be one final update for us beta users?10:38
bovvok...10:38
error404notfoundokay, got it working with xinetd10:39
slytherinbovv: I wish I could help, but I do not know the command line10:39
slytheringirdy: are you using beta or RC?10:39
bovvslytherin: OK... no prob... I will tell you the command you need to type. (I'm old school)10:40
girdyslytherin: how do i tell? do i just run uname -r?10:40
unopgirdy, perhaps, perhaps not - you'll have to check then10:40
mrweslsb_release -rd10:40
joaopinto!beta | girdy10:40
ubottugirdy: If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Jaunty. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.10:40
malik__hi all10:40
girdy!beta: event not found10:41
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:41
bovvslytherin: FIRST, open up that Compviz thing.10:41
anishanyone had any bad experiences with apt-p2p ?10:41
bovvslytherin: SECOND, open up a gnome-terminal10:41
henninge_anybody here affected by bug 359392?10:41
slytherinanish: a bit10:41
malik__i have two network interface on my machine. one is the Ethernete NIC and the other one is USB NIC  which connects to my laptop through a USB data cable. i want to bridge them both so that i can use the internet on my laptop also, how cn i do this in ubuntu jaunty?10:42
sandraladehi, jaunty jackalope is out already?10:42
slytherinanish: felt it was slow than usual method10:42
boumaloafers: icetea installed but it doesnt get gokgs.com to work. .. so i guess i need that cacao-oj6-jre-headless10:42
Yasserwheres ubuntu 9.04?10:42
bovvslytherin: THIRD, in the terminal type the following on the command line: ps -ef10:42
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anishdamn, i thought it would be faster,besides just reducing load10:42
bovvslytherin: The last new lines should contain the Compviz thingy.10:42
Yasserwheres ubuntu 9.04? its alreay 3.12pm thursday 23rd10:42
boumajoaopinto: do you know the name of the firefox java plugin ? .. cause its pretty difficult to find with just keyword searching on java firefox10:43
sandraladei think 9.04 is not yet available10:43
bovvslytherin: That's it... got it?10:43
unop!inetsharing | malik__10:43
ubottumalik__: If you want to share the internet connection of your ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing - You may also use !firestarter: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php10:43
slytherinmalik__: an easy way would be to install a proxy server (squid) on machine that has internet connection, assign static IP address on both end of USB cable and then use the proxy address on the machine that needs internet address.10:43
Yasserbovv, but its already thursday 23rd right?10:43
Vincemanhi, what is a fakeroot environment good for?10:43
slytherinbovv: yes got it10:43
girdy when i try to launch sudo ifconfig wlan0 up i get siocsifflags: input/output error. ???10:43
dn4 sudo chown -R dn410:43
joaopintoboubbin, I don't remember it right now10:43
dn4<dn4> chown: missing operand after `dn4'10:43
loafersbouma, interesting you situation is even more similar to mine as I play on gokgs as well O_O I remember installing all these java files and nothing ended up working.  i did it at school on a wireless and i got disconnected often so maybe you have some broken packages.  also you need to have open jdk installed as well i believe hope this helps :/10:43
malik__hmm... ok10:44
girdyall i wanna do is disable and then renable my wireless10:44
malik__and second question.10:44
slytherinbouma: did you try sun-java6-plugin?10:44
boumaloafers: heh.. i need a game... :P10:44
unopVinceman, building packages mainly - where you need to set permissions on files being included into the package10:44
sandralade23th is not yet over10:44
malik__do we have a fix of Synergy server and client problem in ubuntu Jaunty  by now??10:44
loafersbouma, and btw there are issues with gokgs on ubuntu such as sound10:44
adnchello, what time can we expect the new ubuntu release?10:44
sandraladeidk10:44
slytherinmalik__: it depends on many things10:44
unop!9.04 > adnc10:45
ubottuadnc, please see my private message10:45
malik__because in ubuntu jaunty if its a synergy client the mouse gets stucked in the top left corner10:45
girdyis there a way to recycle the wireless drivers or am i already using the correct command10:45
omer666hi10:45
slytherinwhy are we having so much traffic about jaunty on this channel?10:45
unopslytherin, it's to be released today10:45
loafersbouma, if you have gokgs running while you listen to music depending on which one you started first, the one opened last will not work.  there is a workaround to this problem, but you ened to email the admins to help you out (i forgot the solution)10:46
iamlenekohi everybody10:46
boumaloafers: ive used it before with no problems10:46
lizzzzardbecause nobody knows about #ubuntu-release-party and #ubuntu+110:46
boumaloafers: with ubuntu im pretty sure10:46
bovvslytherin: what did the "ps" show?10:46
slytherinunop: but it is not released today10:46
slytherinbovv: I am not using compiz. :-)10:46
adncunop: but this doesn't tell me the hour10:46
boumaslytherin: ive tried to sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin, but there is no install candidate10:46
girdyanyone know the command to restart wireless drivers?10:46
malik__<slytherin> : many things do u mean the synergy client and server on ubuntu jaunty depends on many things?10:47
unopadnc, /join #ubuntu+110:47
bovvslytherin: you don't need to be... you do have the option in your menu don't you?10:47
lizzzzardslytherin: but the release schedule says so, so people are nervous10:47
boumaslytherin: it actually says its not avail but its refered to by another package10:47
iamlenekohow do i make some tar.gz backup of a folder choosing only one filetype to add inside ?10:47
bovvCould ANYBODY do a "System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects" and tell me what is the name of the program running, please?10:47
boumaslytherin: i can pastebin th ermsg10:47
david9348hello10:47
david9348when will 9.04 be released?10:47
Yasserin how many minutes can i expect to download ubuntu jaunty? im waitin in a cafe just to dlownload it!!!!!!!!!10:47
girdyappearance preferences10:47
unopiamleneko,   tar czvf  foo.tgz *.txt10:47
slytherinbouma: then your best bet is icedtea6-plugin10:47
X3girdy theres is a pocess manager the one that is using most memory will be the culprit10:47
unopiamleneko,  or better.  tar czvf  foo.tgz /path/to/*.txt10:48
X3wtf sorry lol10:48
edecaYasser: Check the topic.10:48
omer666I'm installing Ubuntu on a friend's PC and he has an Intel GM965/GL960 graphic card, everytime I launch an OpenGL application under Intrepid I get plenty of graphical bugs10:48
NytrixUbuntu is an African word meaning 'Humanity to others', or 'I am what I am because of who we all are'. The Ubuntu distribution brings the spirit of Ubuntu to the software world.10:48
iamlenekounop, it will do this recursivly ?10:48
lizzzzard!isitout | Yasser10:48
ubottuYasser: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+110:48
bovvslytherin: just do a "System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects" and tell me what is the name of the program running, please?10:48
omer666I updated the drivers with ppa launchpad repos10:48
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anishwhy the infinite recursion i wonder http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/10:48
omer666now it works but it is sooooo slow....10:48
unopiamleneko, no, just one level.. you'll need to use find to do this recursively10:49
omer666anyone has got an idea on how to make that GC work ?10:49
bovvslytherin: Now I am not even asking you about Compviz.10:49
chronicpiratenow I do10:49
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chronicpirate>:o10:50
breakmyfallHey guys, when is ubuntu 9.04 gonna be out10:50
iamlenekounop, something like this ? find /some/folder -iname *.php | tar cvfz somefile.tar.gz ?10:50
breakmyfall?10:50
chronicpiratestupid intenet just added like 3 days to my idlerpg10:50
breakmyfalli am excited10:50
sandralade8-)10:50
lizzzzardbovv: slytherin has left the building10:50
* chronicpirate kicks breakmyfall in the stomach10:50
breakmyfallan hour or two ?10:50
girdyi really don't understand why there is no centralized driver management app10:50
chronicpiratesorry man10:50
chronicpiratethat was uncalled for10:50
breakmyfallchronicpirate: that hurts10:50
lizzzzard!isitout | breakmyfall10:50
ubottubreakmyfall: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+110:50
bovvCould ANYBODY do a "System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects" and tell me what is the name of the program running, please?10:50
bovvCould ANYBODY do a "System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects" and tell me what is the name of the program running, please?10:50
chronicpirateyou mean fusion?10:51
unopiamleneko,  err no.   find /some/dir  -name "*.php" -exec tar archive.tgz -c {} \;   # i haven't tested this, you might need to have archive.tgz created already first.10:51
girdybovv: the name of hte program is appearance preferences10:51
breakmyfallubottu: thnx10:51
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about thnx10:51
iamlenekounop10:51
iamlenekothanks10:51
KingWilliamhi people, I have a dual screen setup and want to enable compiz. Is this possible?10:51
iamlenekoi give it a try10:51
drinkycrowis it possible to have sound work in doom 3?10:51
drinkycrowor just at all10:51
girdydoes anyone know if the noveau driver is ready for the intel GM945 chipset?10:52
girdyor ready period? it broke on every machine i tried it on10:52
inktvis75gridy: it works stable on my dell d83010:52
inktvis75girdy i mean ;)10:53
iamlenekogirdy, strange thing is that i succeed 1 time and only one to boot the ubuntu cd with this gm945hd chipset10:53
wlodiI want to backup a 10GB directory. How can I overcome the tar 2GB limit?10:53
nukedclxwhen 9.04 release?10:53
Ivrunow10:53
chronicpiratefusion10:53
girdyiamlneko: it just shows how consistent the driver is....10:53
Ivruwlodi: you don't want to split it ?10:53
unopwlodi, tar doesn't have a 2GB limit .. but your filesystem might have this .. FAT especially10:53
nukedclxis available from mirrors?10:53
n0cturnalnukedclx: read ropic?10:53
iamlenekoand the other times it have freeze just before starting X10:53
NTAuthorityhi10:54
n0cturnal*topic10:54
inktvis75dell D830: GM96510:54
Mr_Kaizer!isitout | nukedclx10:54
ubottunukedclx: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+110:54
girdyhow do i install the noveau driver? i tried it a while back and it failed. what is the command?10:54
wlodiIvru: I'll guess I have to10:54
bovvgirdy: do you mean: gnome-appearance-properties?  Thanks.10:54
nukedclxthanks10:54
wlodiunop: are you sure about that?10:54
unopwlodi, yes10:54
girdybovv: i was looking at the title of the window. it said appearance properties10:54
wlodiunop: ok, thx10:55
KingWilliamI have a dual screen setup and want to enable compiz. Is this possible?10:55
KingWilliamanyone?10:55
bovvgirdy: thanks... that was a good hint.10:55
r2r4hello ! where to find the source of /lib/ld-linux.so.2 ?10:56
chronicpirateit won't just work if you setup ubuntu in general to use dual?10:56
girdybovv: yeah np10:56
KingWilliamchronicpirate, I hope it does :Pp10:56
chronicpirateI would think so10:56
Mr_KaizerWhat's the best and/or easiest way to reinstall Ubuntu?10:56
Mr_KaizerJust use the Live CD and hit install?=10:56
chronicpirateMr_Kaizer: just reinstall10:56
icerootMr_Kaizer: yes10:56
darrenloobyhi all10:57
darrenloobyhow do I a) find out what sound cards I have installed and b) get the drivers for them?10:57
natrixnatrix89Hi. Where can I change my network workgroup on intrepid?10:57
dexter47girdy are you still here?10:57
girdyyeah10:57
Mr_KaizerThat screwed my language settings up last time, had a nice mix between English, Norwegian, and lately, Chinese10:57
dexter47sry10:57
dexter47:D10:57
dexter47ok... what was that command again?10:57
lizzzzardMr_Kaizer: a clean new install screwed up your language settings?10:58
tigerwolfdarrenlooby: the command lspci is a good command to get a list of PCI devices10:58
erkuserdemhi everyone i wanna ask a question im using ubuntu 810 and i write the code  ' sudo apt-get install kubuntu'    now  whic version of kde im downloading ?  :D10:58
dexter47girdy?10:59
tigerwolferkuserdem: why do you want to know the version you are downloading?10:59
darrenloobytigerwolf, thanks - that'll get me started10:59
girdydexter47: yeah i'm still here. why do you ask?10:59
erkuserdemkde 3  kde4  kde4.1  or  4.2   which one i keen on :)10:59
girdysorry i'm just multitasking10:59
dexter47it's ok10:59
dexter47i asked what was that command again?11:00
iamlenekothis website kickass : http://www.commandlinefu.com11:00
Mr_Kaizerlizzzzard: It seems that way. First time I installed it (overwriting the existing Windows XP on the harddisc), the language was just fine (Norwegian). But after I reinstalled ut using the same Live CD, doing things the exact same way as last time, it became a mix between English and Norwegian.11:00
toanhelp me! when i start computer prombt grub appear and i don't come in system.11:00
dexter47girdy: i asked what was that command again?11:00
Mr_Kaizerlizzzzard: The panels were in English, but the menues on the panels were in Norwegian :P11:00
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lizzzzardsounds funny11:01
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unoperkuserdem,  apt-cache policy kubuntu-desktop   or  apt-cache rdepends kubuntu-desktop # should give you an indication11:01
X3toan try recovery11:01
girdydexter47: sorry which command? i asked what the command was to install the noveau driver11:01
inktvis75toan: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/  :-)11:01
Falstafwhat is the command after alt-F2 to upgrade to 9.04?11:01
lizzzzardtoan: try using the livecd to fix your system.11:01
girdydexter47: sorry man its 6 in the morning lol11:01
Mr_Kaizerlizzzzard: Aye, and now my desktop won't load. Either just a cream colored screen, or it goes black with flickering red stripes.11:01
matissehi11:01
tigerwolferkuserdem: it will most likely be a recent relese - possible 4.1 - im unsure as to why its a bit deal - if you install it you can find out then11:02
matissebefore a dist-upgrade should be a normal upgrade?11:02
lizzzzardMr_Kaizer: have you tried restarting x from the console?11:02
girdydexter47; i did sudo ifconfig wlan0 up and got "input/output error"11:02
toanerror because i upgrade system11:02
erkuserdemtigerwolf you are right, and unop thanks also11:03
Mr_Kaizerlizzzzard: I don't think so. I've only been using Ubuntu since Monday, so I'm rather noobish.11:03
unoperkuserdem,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/kubuntu-desktop11:03
X3well then dont upgrade do a fresh reintall11:03
dexter47girdy: you asked me to type a command and show you what is printed on the screen. and about that driver, where do i get it from? does apt-get gives me that driver?11:03
girdylspci11:03
isak_Anybody know why i ant download 9.04 yet...it is the 23 now=)11:03
chronicpiratethis is going to be fun to remember (l)unix commands11:03
ikoniaisak_: it's not the end of the 23rd yet11:03
anishlunix ?11:03
chronicpiratehaven't use it in a while11:03
lizzzzardtoan it sounds like your bootrecord is broken. this could be fixed by reinstalling grub: google "fix grub bootloader"11:03
ikoniaisak_: jaunty discussion is in #ubuntu+111:04
isak_isnt it?11:04
isak_aha ok sorry11:04
Mr_Kaizer!isitout | isak_11:04
girdydexter47: lspci shows you what hardware you have11:04
ubottuisak_: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+111:04
chronicpirateas in boy(s)11:04
dexter47girdy: something about lh... idk... i had a problem with an isa net card... in case you fogot :D11:04
chronicpiratebut like (L)inux11:04
chronicpirateer wait11:04
chronicpiratedman11:04
toanthank you11:04
chronicpiratethat didn't work right11:04
erkuserdemokay unop thanks .11:04
FloodBot2chronicpirate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.11:04
girdydexter47: first i need to know what kind of card it is11:04
erkuserdem;)11:04
natrixnatrix89Hi. Where can I change my network workgroup on intrepid?11:04
Falstafchronicpirate what do type after alt11:04
anish:)11:04
lizzzzardMr_Kaizer: can you get to a console via ctrl+alt+f1?11:04
girdydexter47: do you know by chance what the card is called?11:04
chronicpiratewell linux/unix commands11:04
chronicpiratelinux sorta has unix in it11:04
dexter47i sayd "IntelExpress 10 ISAPNP" i think11:04
Mr_Kaizerlizzzzard: Yes, everything works up until the desktop is supposed to load.11:05
girdydexter47: if you don't, typing lspci in terminal will give you a big list of hardware devices11:05
Falstafchronicpirate -- what do I type after alt-f2 to upgrade the OS??11:05
AdvoWorkis it possible to search for certain text within a folder? ie the text index.php within a folder called development?11:05
dexter47girdy: i'll do that now11:05
dexter47girdy: but is an ISA :(11:05
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Mr_Kaizerlizzzzard: The desktop even loaded fine for the first 6 or so reboots.11:05
unopAdvoWork, use grep11:05
Mr_Kaizerlizzzzard: Gotta run, bbl11:06
chronicpirateumm crap I don't remember those. maybe apt-get update?11:06
unopAdvoWork,  grep search_word development/*11:06
chronicpirateIt might not use apt i dont' rmember11:06
chronicpiratethen upgrade11:06
antilusthe new Ubuntu 9.04 (I guess RC-version since I typed alt+ f2) sucks so extremely hard! They've removed the "CTRL+ALT+Backspace" and the performance on my laptop equals Vista!11:06
girdydexter47: sorry this may be going beyond my knowledge of computers. what is ISA?11:06
chronicpiratei know it's update and upgrade but maybe not apt11:06
antilusif it doesn't get better I'm gonna stay with 8.10..11:06
dexter47ISA was used before PCI11:06
ordinareezhello, is there a channel for ubuntu gamer?11:07
omer666So I found why my GMA was so slow11:07
chronicpirate#ubuntu-games ?11:07
chronicpiratemyabde11:07
omer666but now I've got graphical bugs again11:07
AdvoWorkunop, will that search .gz's aswell?11:07
chronicpiratenope11:07
chronicpiratetry /list11:07
chronicpiratesee if there is one11:07
omer666where does it come from ?11:07
X3ISA is nothing11:07
lizzzzardantilus: you are free to do so. also if you are running a intel graphics chipset on your laptop, the problem is known and being worked on. you can change the ctrl+alt+backspace thing back if you want to11:07
chronicpiratelinux-games would be likey11:07
byflashhey anyone here pro @ psp hacking?11:08
unopAdvoWork,  nope .. only uncompressed non-binary files11:08
X3byflash yea so11:08
girdygod i really wish i had my VISTA cd11:08
byflashoh11:08
antilusyeah, I use my laptop at the moment...didn't know that Intel didn't work, but then I'll blame Intel instead xD11:08
byflashhey i have i question11:08
X3this is not #psp11:08
antilusbut how can I change CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE so it works again?^^11:08
unopAdvoWork,   if you want to search through .gz files.    zgrep "index\.php" development/*.gz11:08
byflashthere is nobody there T^T11:09
AdvoWorkunop, wil doing grep searchterm folder/* search folders within that folder aswell?11:09
gypsymaurosomeone uses ocsinventory? I need to know on how to set TAG on clients once the service agent is installed11:09
X3antlilus look at you keyboard settings11:09
lizzzzardantilus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes#Ctrl-Alt-Backspace%20disabled%20by%20default%20in%20Xorg11:09
arcskynew ubuntu cmes today?11:09
lizzzzardgoogle is your friend11:09
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ninjafuryI'm having trouble getting netatalk/avahi working properly with Jaunty. After upgrading to jaunty, I can't mount shared drives on my mac. Anyone have this problem?11:09
unopAdvoWork, no, add the -r flag to grep to enable recursive search ..  grep -r searchterm folder/*11:09
X3byflash: wtf do you want11:10
antilusthx a lot guys...you're the best!11:10
lizzzzardantilus: on same page for your info https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes#Performance%20regressions%20on%20Intel%20graphics%20cards11:10
inktvis75http://noncdn-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/11:10
arcskywhere can i download ubuntu 9.04?11:10
supersashohello, can you help me with a script that opens several programs but on another virtual desktop (f.e. desktop2).. not on the focused one11:11
lizzzzard!isitout | arcsky11:11
ubottuarcsky: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+111:11
AdvoWorkunop so: zgrep -r "index\.php" /*.gz  will search all folders for all files Including .gz  ?11:11
MrStaticHiya, was wondering if anyone knew why my wifi is being assigned to eth1 which is screwing up a lot of things instead of wlan0, I checked the persistent rules and its listed11:11
unopAdvoWork, no, zgrep only looks in gzip compressed files ... and since we specified *.gz there, only those files are passed on to zgrep .. all other files are ignored11:12
naxahi all! So how is it going?11:13
naxaI mean Jaunty of course.11:13
madrazrJJ is out :D11:14
girdynaxa: it sucks11:14
unopAdvoWork,  in other words, you need two commands, use grep to search all the normal files first, then use zgrep to search compressed files11:14
girdynaxa: no hardware support, no compiz, no internet (now anyway),11:14
naxagirdy, really? how?11:14
naxamadrazr, yeah I've a copy too11:14
naxagirdy, oh I see. how lame!11:15
girdynaxa: the noveau driver won't install on my intel gm94511:15
madrazrnaxa: I don't have such a fast connection :(11:15
supersashohello, can you help me with a script that opens several programs but on another virtual desktop (f.e. desktop2).. not on the focused one11:15
naxamadrazr, I came all the way here to have a fast internet and it's just not oficially out yet! What a shame!11:15
naxamadrazr, at home i have 50 kb/s11:15
madrazrnaxa: what?11:16
girdynaxa: well i'm not trying to bash ubuntu, i just see room for improvement11:16
naxamadrazr, here i've got 3 mb/s11:16
madrazrnaxa: I have 2mbps11:16
madrazrstill it sucks here11:16
fincanDownloads arrived!!! CHECK WEBSİTE!!!!11:16
fincanjust kidding :)11:16
naxagirdy, yeah, I can see your point! I've an old intel chipset in my mb at home and it is not supported either! How lame!11:16
salimanefincan which website?11:17
Extendit is out right ?11:17
girdynaxa: just do it from where you are. CTRL+ F211:17
fincanI was kidding :)11:17
naxamadrazr, yeah, i'm always lost in this. do you mean bit or byte? i meant byte.11:17
dexter47girdy?11:17
girdynaxa: enter in "update-manager -d" without quotes11:17
madrazrnaxa: bit11:17
naxagirdy, wow!11:17
joaopintotoday is not a good day to use update-manager :P11:18
Extendit's out i'm downloading11:18
AdvoWorkunop, yeah something like that :s11:18
naxamadrazr, i see i see! Let's say it's 3*8=24 mbps here and 50*8=0,4 mbps at home for me, then. it was worth to come here!11:18
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supersashowill anyone use apt-p2p for upgrading? does it get faster then the normal way?11:19
fincankubuntu dvd on torrent and ftp11:19
fincanOUT!!!!!!!!!!11:19
fincanRELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!11:19
fincanhttp://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/release/dvd/kubuntu-9.04-dvd-amd64.iso11:19
naxawhat? for real?11:19
fincan:)11:19
rc55lies11:19
brinstarthe timestamp on the iso is 20 apr???11:19
fincanhttp://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/release/dvd/11:20
fincancheck here :)11:20
tsimpson!ops | fincan11:20
ubottufincan: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elky,  imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso,  PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!11:20
LurkersAit will be the RC11:20
naxaoh yeah no announce11:20
brinstarhttp://noncdn-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/11:20
rc55There really wont be much difference between RC and final11:20
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Matr|Xi have some problem with my lamp-server11:20
Master-MindHey how do i find the Danish Channel :) ?11:20
supersashowill anyone use apt-p2p for upgrading? does it get faster then the normal way?11:20
omer666anyone has a GM965/GL960 that works correctly ?11:20
haggisbasherukfor those Aspire One users out there , Kuki Linux 1.7 (based on Jaunty final) is now in testing #kukilinux for details11:21
Myrtti!dk | Master-Mind11:21
ubottuMaster-Mind: For at få dansksproget support til Ubuntu, bedes du venligst gå til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal forefindes kun engelsksproget support.11:21
drinkycrowneed help with sound in doom 3, audigy 211:21
naxagirdy, I wonder if the intel driver, network manager, menu editing and gtk filechooser just got any better? :D my critical points so far. They are not being updated too much... .)11:21
Dudefaceis ubuntu based on windows xp or windows vista?11:22
drinkycrowxp11:22
Dudefacei dont like vista11:22
DudefaceSWEET!11:22
Matr|Xi unstall lamp server then i install it agine give me erros like Reloading AppArmor profiles : done.11:22
Matr|X * /etc/init.d/mysql: WARNING: /etc/mysql/my.cnf cannot be read. See README.Debian.gz11:22
Matr|X * Starting MySQL database server mysqld                                                                                              [ OK ]11:22
Matr|X/etc/init.d/mysql: line 115: /etc/mysql/debian-start: No such file or directory11:22
Matr|Xinvoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" fail11:22
FloodBot2Matr|X: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.11:22
MyrttiDudeface: neither, keep the offtopic chat somewhere else11:22
Matr|X/etc/mysql/my.cnf << this is my problem :S11:22
ExtendDudeface, r u sure about what u said about ubuntu ?11:22
naxaDudeface, it's 3.111:23
Extend3.1 the NT version ?11:23
Matr|Xhello11:23
brinstarDudeface: its based on DOS11:23
Dudeface3.1 came out just after xp, wasnt as good11:23
Matr|Xeny body help me plz11:23
naxaExtend, 3.1 the "for workgroups" version11:23
Extendnaxa, oh nice11:23
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RantingHumanThe alternate iso torrent link for 9.04 shows a tracker error... "not authorized for use"..11:24
boumaok ive got icedtea-6-plugin openjdk-6-jre- open-jdk-6-jre-headless11:24
boumabut java still doesnt work in firefox11:24
naxaMatr|X, no idea sorry :(11:24
Matr|X:(:(:(:(:(11:24
MrStaticHiya, was wondering if anyone knew why my wifi is being assigned to eth1 which is screwing up a lot of things instead of wlan0, I checked the persistent rules and its listed11:24
Matr|Xso if i make backup for my server it will go back to three days befor11:25
drinkycrowneed help with sound in doom 3, audigy 211:25
Matr|Xif i backup my server will it work like 3 days later11:25
LurkersARantingHuman: Same here11:25
Atomic_UEis 7.10 passed it's support life?11:25
RantingHumanLurkersA, I guess they're waiting till it's announced11:26
erUSUL!gutsy11:26
ubottuUbuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) was the seventh release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 18th, 2009. See !eol and !upgrade for more details.11:26
LurkersAAtomic_UE: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-7.10-eol11:26
Atomic_UEcool thanks11:26
LurkersARantingHuman: Yeah, I'll just keep hitting F5 on ubuntu.com :)11:26
Atomic_UEexplains why it says there are updates but nobody has them :P11:26
RantingHumanhehe11:27
Atomic_UEmight click the upgrade button then and see how it goes11:27
gardrellhttp://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/release/dvd/11:28
krautgardrell: rd or final?11:28
Mylistohey everyone...11:29
gardrellfinal but noch released yet11:29
Mylistohow can I figure out what my ip settings are in ubuntu?11:29
gardrellifconfig11:29
kioskyit's out: http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/11:29
krautgardrell: still not on any other mirror, let's wait ;)11:29
ActionParsnipyo yo yo11:30
naxaMylisto, I used to do it with typing "ifconfig" (without braces) in a Terminal what can be found in Applications11:30
ActionParsnipnaxa: {} are braces ;)11:30
Mylistowhich one is the default gateway?11:30
naxaActionParsnip, whoops, that's for real! SORRY!!!11:31
ActionParsnipnaxa: just playing dude11:31
naxaActionParsnip, help me out what is these apostrophes or """""11:31
karnamethis is rc or final version : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/release/11:31
karname?11:31
florinhi11:31
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naxaActionParsnip, in Hungaryr, we call them the "claws of the cat"11:31
naxa(literally)11:31
LurkersAwonder what the traffic is like on ubuntu.com right now....11:31
ActionParsnipnaxa: i'd say quotes or quotation marks11:31
ActionParsnipnaxa: cool, thats rockin11:32
naxayeah it's the best!11:32
karnameanybody know this is rc or final version : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/release/?11:32
DRAGGERHello , i get a Backup form cpanel on my server when i extracted it on ubuntu i getting error "Unexpected end of file"11:32
DRAGGERi removed it and redownloaded it but the same problem11:33
LurkersAi386 alternate torrent is up and running11:33
ExtendLurkersA, yeah11:33
Newb`s9.04 is out11:33
Newb`stopic is deprecated :D11:33
RustAU!outyet11:33
ubottuJaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+111:33
DRAGGERHello !11:34
Rapachooiehi all... I am trying to find out if there is a simple way to rename a heap of image files, so that they do not have duplicate-errors (lower-case and upper-case files appear as the same file on windows) when I put them onto windows11:34
naxaMylisto, type "/sbin/route"11:34
Rapachooieis there a simple program or command to differentiate the files?11:34
naxaMylisto, there you'll see your default gateway!11:34
eirikhmFor a quick mirror in Scandinavia - ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/ubuntu-iso/9.04/11:34
Mylistonaxa: did that...nothing happened11:34
rumpel@ Rapachooie "man rename"11:35
Rapachooierumpel: could you elaborate a bit on that for me?11:35
naxaMylisto, uh, well, it works for me! i write "/sbin/route" in a terminal without quotes and it just tells me the default gateway11:35
Rapachooierumple   nevermind11:35
Rapachooieforgat thats the manual name11:35
Rapachooie*forgot11:35
tucunait has been released (9.04)11:36
Rapachooie:) ill have a look  thanks11:36
Klau3realy?11:36
MrStaticHiya, was wondering if anyone knew why my wifi is being assigned to eth1 which is screwing up a lot of things instead of wlan0, I checked the persistent rules and its listed11:36
tucunahttp://colonos.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/ubuntu-904-jaunty-jackalope-has-been-released-get-torrent-here/11:36
Nytrixhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/9.0411:36
LurkersAAnd now I remember why I hate NZ broadband speeds.... -sigh-11:36
FlyOnThe1allI'm trying to install slapd with tls-support in Hardy, but I keep getting the not-so-clear error msg: -64, anybody know what this means?11:37
Mylistoanyone know how to find the default gateway via terminal?11:37
FlyOnThe1allMylisto: ip route11:37
RustAUhow do I remove mounted disks from the desktop?11:37
rumpel@ Mylisto "route"11:37
rumpel@ RustAU rightclick11:37
ActionParsnip!info slapd11:37
ubottuslapd (source: openldap): OpenLDAP server (slapd). In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.11-0ubuntu6.1 (intrepid), package size 1432 kB, installed size 3872 kB11:37
Newb`sUbuntu 9.04 is out here : http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/11:37
fincanchange channel topic! :)11:38
_g0tmi1k_so its out?11:38
Mylistothis is what I got when I type route11:38
RustAUwtf no netbook remix torrent11:38
Mylistohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/156437/11:38
Newb`sIt's out11:38
sponzorNewb`s what about kubunt?11:38
Newb`shttp://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/11:38
Mylistonot sure what the default gateway is11:38
Newb`ssponzor: out too11:38
ActionParsnipFlyOnThe1all: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo dpkg --configure -a; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install slapd11:39
sponzorcan you geave me the link please11:39
ActionParsnipFlyOnThe1all: try that11:39
Newb`ssponzor: kubuntu is here : http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/jaunty/11:39
sriramomanwhy's release taking so much time :(11:39
sponzorthanks11:39
brinstarits out11:39
FlyOnThe1allActionParsnip: very well, I'll try it11:39
naxaMylisto, should you try "sudo route" without quotes, perhaps11:39
FlyOnThe1allMylisto: the Gateway -column is the list of your gateways for different destinations, the default one is clearly stated to be 192.168.1.111:39
Mylisto192.168.1.1 is my linksys router I think...11:40
Rapachooiei dont get it11:40
Rapachooiethe main page isnt updated11:40
FlyOnThe1allMylisto: yup11:40
lucidehow to know when the final version is out? ubuntu.com proposes 8.10 as "the latest version" on their pages.. :P11:40
Rapachooieim still getting it that 8.10 is latest11:40
naxaMylisto, shoudn't that be your gateway?11:40
MylistoBasically I am trying to get my gf's win xp machine to connect...dhcp messed up like 2 weeks ago...so I am trying to set up everything with manual ip's, default...but not sure how11:41
Myrtti!isitout11:41
ubottuJaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+111:41
brinstarit is out, check the main page link for the rc11:41
Myrttibrinstar: it's not, stop saying it is11:41
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ActionParsnipRapachooie: sudo updatemanager -d11:41
icerootMyrtti: it is11:41
brinstarwhy not just check the page and tell me what you think??11:41
lucidebrinstar: RC is not the final release.. ?11:41
Mylistowould anyone care to walk me through this?11:41
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Rapachooiedoesnt seem like it is to me11:41
brinstarwhat is that release if not the final version?11:41
Rapachooieconsidering the "download" page says that 8.10 is the latest11:42
lucideRC - release candidate11:42
Myrttibrinstar, iceroot: do you want me to explain the mechanics of rsync to you, or are you just going to believe it's not released yet?11:42
sriramomanlucide, RC is the release candidate and not the final release.11:42
lucidesriramoman: exactly..11:42
tucunahere is a torrent for 9.05 Final/Full:11:42
tucunahttp://colonos.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/ubuntu-904-jaunty-jackalope-has-been-released-get-torrent-here/11:42
ActionParsnipwhy can't people just wait 24 hours more?11:42
FlyOnThe1allActionParsnip: that only installs slapd, which I already have the latest version of11:42
drinkycrowneed help with sound in doom 3, audigy 211:42
aboSamoorHi, can you help me ? I want to download a podcast. Rhythmbox is not saving the files by their titles, banshee can not continue downloading [known bug] ?!11:42
ActionParsnipits so hilarious to watch you all fight to find something that doesnt exist yet11:42
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brinstarMyrtti: then what is the release on that page i mentioned?11:43
tsimpsondon't post links until after the announcement from ubuntu.com11:43
ActionParsnipFlyOnThe1all: ok so whats the problem?11:43
sriramomandrinkycrow, doom3 is there for linux?11:43
Mylistobasically I just need to find out what I should make the ip address in my winxp machine11:43
lucideActionParsnip: because I've been waiting "just" one week and I really want to get started with the latest *final* version11:43
tsimpsonand I mean the front page of it11:43
ActionParsnipsriramoman: yep, get the native installer from ID's site and use that with your Doom3 CD, or use WINE11:43
Myrttibrinstar: it's a file that may or may not be the final version. There might be some changes to it with rsync from the release team, so it may not be the final one11:43
GrimmVarghey guys, is there at apple+ubuntu channel somewhere?11:43
tsimpsonNewb`s: join #ubuntu-ops then11:43
ActionParsniplucide: your system wont self destruct if it doesnt get jaunty installed right now.11:44
FlyOnThe1allActionParsnip: so the problem is I've configured it, generated certificates, checked the certificates, gone through the file access rights to the certificates and yet I cannot start the slapd service, debug output only says the error is -6411:44
FlyOnThe1allActionParsnip: to be precise: main: TLS init def ctx failed: -6411:44
olivierso, is it out now?11:44
ActionParsnipFlyOnThe1all: o idea then dude, not something i use. Is there an irc channel for it, on freenode or another server11:44
FlyOnThe1allI tried looking for one, but I couldn't find one11:45
drinkycrowsriramoman: yes, it runs natively on linux11:45
lucideActionParsnip: noo.. I just asked how to know when it's out.. if anyone knows.. not that I must have it, I just want to have it11:45
MyrttiATTENTION: Jaunty is not yet released, and posting any links for downloads, be they torrents or to the isos themselves will get you kicked from the channel! Proceed to Party On at #ubuntu-release-party11:45
naxaMylisto, also "netstat -nr" has your default gateway with "UG" written in the "FLAG" coloumn11:45
Klau3do you download the .iso through BitTorrent or ftp?11:45
Myrttilucide: it's not out11:45
ActionParsniplucide: i'd say in about 24 - 48 hours11:45
ActionParsnip!isitout | lucide11:45
ubottulucide: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+111:45
ActionParsnipMyrtti: i guess this is flavour of the day huh :(11:45
drinkycrowif by 'runs on linux' you mean 'hope you really don't want to hear anything'11:45
dundelhaha finally11:46
dundelit's coming11:46
erUSULMcPeter: your winXP must have an ip 192.168.1.x (x can be 1-254) 1 is ocupied by the gw so choose another one11:46
MyrttiActionParsnip: yes, and one of the reasons I hate release days11:46
ActionParsnipdrinkycrow: huh?11:46
lucidetnx11:46
Rapachooiehi all...i have a bunch of photos which are both upper and lower case and windows is recognising them as duplicates... i am trying to find a command or program to rename them to windows compatible format?  - man rename didnt tell me much11:46
wtvwhat's the difference between ubuntu CD and DVD installation?11:46
drinkycrowActionParsnip: doom 3 runs awesome on ubuntu so long as you don't mind not being able to hear a revenant around the corner with a set of rockets waiting to roast you11:46
ActionParsnipwtv: dvd has a lot more language support on the disk as well as (i think) the other DEs11:47
trucMucheerUSUL, what ? oO11:47
zetheroohow can I update alsa to the latest version? ... I am running 9.0411:47
ActionParsnipdrinkycrow: ran perfectly on my system11:47
hadisanyone can help me about install stellarium-0.10.011:47
trucMuche"my winXP" o_O11:47
drinkycrowwhat version?11:47
ActionParsnipwtv: but you can get it all once you get installed and online11:47
wtvActionParsnip: does it have more optional packages11:47
erUSULtrucMuche: my bad was for Mylisto ...11:47
ActionParsnipdrinkycrow: let me guess....creative soundcard?11:47
FlyOnThe1allActionParsnip: thanks for the help tho, I'll see if I can find a more specific channel for slapd11:47
drinkycrowgood call11:47
wtvActionParsnip: i intend to install it on PCs not connected11:47
erUSULMylisto: your winXP must have an ip 192.168.1.x (x can be 1-254) 1 is ocupied by the gw so choose another one11:47
MrStaticHiya, was wondering if anyone knew why my wifi is being assigned to eth1 which is screwing up a lot of things instead of wlan0, I checked the persistent rules and its listed11:48
trucMucheerUSUL, :)11:48
drinkycrowbut i don't see how that's relevant, as everything else has sound11:48
ActionParsnipwtv: no not really, for a desktop PC in english using a single DE, it has everything you need. I download the DVD ISO as I can't find CD media around me for love nor money11:48
ActionParsnipdrinkycrow: do you use a creative soundcard?11:48
looongerhas 9.04 been released yet?11:49
drinkycrowyes11:49
drinkycrowit's a creative soundcard11:49
ActionParsnipdrinkycrow: wanna know how i knew?11:49
blamesriramoman its already released11:49
Myrttilooonger: no11:49
drinkycrowhow?11:49
wtvActionParsnip: it doesn't have codecs11:49
ActionParsnipdrinkycrow: because their support SUCKS and they are a PITA to setup11:49
drinkycrowit works with everything else11:49
drinkycrowand doom3 has sound in windows11:49
sveinseHello. Is is possible to spawn a guest session of KDE when running Ubuntu?11:49
drinkycrowso i cant see how it's creative's fault11:50
sveinse...running Gnome that it11:50
ActionParsnipdrinkycrow: i use 100% compatible soundcards and have had no issues with any sound ever11:50
zetherooActionParsnip: how about laptops?11:50
ActionParsnipdrinkycrow: creative cant even support windows fully, a guy got sick of their slackness, wrote his own driver and creative threatened to sue11:50
looongerMyrtti, are isos available to download or is it the previous version?11:50
girdythinks that linux should just die11:50
drinkycrowbut it works for everything except doom 3 in ubuntu11:50
FlyOnThe1alldrinkycrow: it's creative fault even tho it works in windows, because Creative makes drivers for windows but not for linux11:50
zetherooActionParsnip: I mean its not that easy to know what type of SC is in a laptop ...11:50
ActionParsnipzetheroo: research is key11:51
zetherooActionParsnip: hmm11:51
girdywhy doesnt CTRL C work11:51
krychekwhere?11:51
girdyman this is so basic yet there are still bugs in the most simple things11:51
Myrttilooonger: there might be some isos that might look like they are the final release version, but there might still be some changes to them, so we ask you not to download them yet. the previous versions can be downloaded and used, but patience will get you further11:51
ActionParsnipzetheroo: there are loads of guides and forums about people with varying latops and will most likely have pasted their lspci, so you can see exactly whats what11:51
LurkersAin what girdy?11:51
drinkycrowhow is an audio card supposed to develop linux drivers?11:52
drinkycrowthe company rather11:52
drinkycrowlinux sound structure changes every year11:52
ActionParsnipdrinkycrow: they make the card, they make the drivers. NVidia have been doing it for ages11:52
erUSULdrinkycrow: code in C against the alsa kernel subsystem11:52
ActionParsnipdrinkycrow: as have intel11:52
ActionParsnipdrinkycrow: as have realtek11:52
joaopintoand this really should go into off-topic :)11:53
zetherooerUSUL: :-D11:53
james7493drinkycrow: They don't have to. There's a bunch of driver developers that have offered to write and maintain drivers for companies that are willing to provide technical information about their hardware.11:53
zetheroojoaopinto: nah ... there's not much happening anyhow11:53
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girdylurkersa: linux is terrible man i've lost all faith in it11:54
Athenon_what time today is jaunty coming out>?11:55
girdythe file hierarchy is a huge disorganized mess, there's no device manager, there's no real graphics support. period11:55
joaopintogirdy, do you have a question ? this channel is not for complains11:55
rumpel!jaunty > Athenon_11:55
nonicknameAthenon_, read the topic of the channel.11:55
ubottuAthenon_, please see my private message11:55
Mr_KaizerHow do I restart X from the terminal?11:55
joaopintogirdy, you are clearly misinformed11:55
LurkersAgirdy: Were you trying to use CTRL-C in a terminal?11:55
girdyi'm not complaining, there's a lot that needs to be done to this OS11:55
girdyno CTRL + SHIFT + C11:56
girdybut CTRL + C in firefox11:56
looongergirdy, linux is free so don't complain11:56
james7493girdy: How come you're here?11:56
kliklikThere's a lot that needs to be done to any OS. IMO they all suck11:56
ActionParsnipgirdy: how many distros have you tried?11:56
girdyhahaha11:56
LurkersAgirdy: THere is a lot to be done, but what we have is fairly impressive11:56
MrKeishiiIs it possible to change the compiz fusion window size on netbook?11:56
girdy<ActionParsnip>: i've tried fedora and ubuntu11:56
MrKeishiibecause it has problems on netbooks11:57
ActionParsnipgirdy: thats not very many to say you hate linux11:57
MrKeishiiusing 9.04RCC11:57
looongergirdy, after 5 years on linux I see no alternative to linux11:57
mgolischno the file hoerarchy is great11:57
ActionParsnipgirdy: maybe BSD is more to your tastes11:57
girdyi never said i hated it11:57
girdyi said it needs improvements11:57
Phleagortry archlinux11:57
mgolischits clean, its not a mess like on windows11:57
ActionParsniplooonger: pretty much the same here11:57
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girdywhich i will eventually write in code and give to all of you11:57
girdyleaving my mark on the open source world11:57
joaopintoppl can we move the what linux needs to #ubuntu-offtopic ?11:57
kliklikthat's the spirit :)11:57
james7493girdy: There's actually an improvement coming out today that you might've heard something about...11:58
ActionParsnipgirdy: give fedora a try, its got pretty sweet support11:58
Vezirsoit IS today11:58
girdyActionParsnip: aiight i will11:58
looongergirdy, graphics support sucks, that's true11:58
Vezirthe "don't ask when" is an hour type thing, not a SHIT WE COULDNT FINISH IT11:58
Vezirthing11:58
joaopintogirdy, your overall statement is clearly misinformed, but please keep this channel for support11:58
girdyjames7493: u mean jaunty or something more specific?11:58
marko_dhi11:58
marko_dwhen will ubuntu torrent be pushed out?11:59
james7493girdy: Yeah, Jaunty.11:59
marko_dlike in 1-2 hours or ?11:59
tsimpson!language | Vezir11:59
ubottuVezir: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.11:59
Veziroh whoops, sorry, shoulda figuredthat out11:59
r3c0nubuntu 9.04 is scheduled for release today, isnt it?11:59
_Sihyes11:59
Veziranyways i was worried that t would become ubuntu 9.0fornever11:59
joaopintor3c0n, yes, but it's not out yet, don't ask for the time11:59
tigerwolfjoin #ubuntu-party11:59
marko_dyeah, but which time11:59
JackWinteranyone know what version of nfs is in ubuntu 8.04 nfs3 or nfs4 ?12:00
asasdHappy Ubunting :D12:00
asasdGeissbock12:00
asasdAvatar von Geissbock12:00
asasdAnmeldungsdatum:12:00
FloodBot2asasd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.12:00
asasd4. Juni 200712:00
asasdBeiträge: 22312:00
TychoQuadAre we allowed to talk about Jaunty in here yet?12:00
ossudwhen can i download 9.04?12:00
ossudxD12:00
zirodayTychoQuad: ossud #ubuntu-release-party12:00
r3c0njoaopinto: ok, im not five you know :)12:00
r3c0nDAD! ARE WE THERE YET?12:01
r3c0n;)12:01
joaopinto;)12:01
TychoQuadziroday, i'm not here to celebrate, i'm here to sort an issue :P12:01
bibsthalol12:01
bibsthabut why ? is it being doen for throttling?12:01
Foor9.0412:01
Madpilotbibstha, is what being done for throttling?12:01
geoaxiswhat time is 9.04 expected today, if its being released today12:02
krychekwhats the point in upgrading as soon as it's out? it will be slooow to download12:02
chronicpiratet minus +45 ish12:02
tsimpsongeoaxis: there is no exact time, join #ubuntu-release party to wait it out12:02
chronicpiratethat's a clever joke if you can catch it12:02
bibsthaMadpilot, hehe nevermind12:02
chronicpirateor wait minus -4512:02
geoaxiskrychek:  if more people put it on bittorent , it will be not a problem12:03
ActionParsnipkrychek: many systems have 200Kg of thermit above them, the bomb will run uname -c at midnight, if it doesnt see jaunty, the systems will melt so they need jaunty now now now12:03
tsimpsonerm that's #ubuntu-release-party12:03
chronicpirategeoaxis: it is gonna be on bit torrent12:03
sveinseNon-9.04-question: How do I start a second KDE guest session, when running Gnome?  It seems guest session simply spawns a new Gnome session.  Is is possible?12:03
chronicpirateand when it's offically released you'll be glad to see how many seeds will magically be there :p12:03
r3c0nwill ubuntu 9.04 be lts?12:03
tsimpsonno12:03
chronicpiratenope12:03
geoaxischronicpirate:  yeah i know ... krychek was complaining about slow download speeds12:04
chronicpirate10.04 I belive is next12:04
krychekgeoaxis: you cant upgrade using torrent.. unless you reinstall the whole stuff12:04
[1]kinohi, everybody. Why can't I see videos when I run the Ubuntu 8.04 live cd?12:04
chronicpiratelike any vidoes?12:04
geoaxiskrychek:  you cannnot upgrade with CD?12:04
pspsampsp_u can use alternate install to upgrade12:04
chronicpirateyou might need to install the proper codecs12:04
zetheroowhat time is 9.04 being released?12:04
joaopinto[1]kino, because you dont have the proprietary codecs ?12:04
whatteywhen its done12:04
chronicpiratefor like divx12:04
pspsampsp_ill get the link12:04
whattey\o/12:04
nonicknamezetheroo, join #ubuntu-release-party12:05
chronicpiratethere are nice generica packs out12:05
chronicpirateapt-cache search video codecs12:05
r3c0nwhat motivates you guys to label a distro LTS? is it how stable you feel that it is?12:05
chronicpiratecan't remember what its' called but it will hook you up12:05
[1]kinochronicpirate the answer was for me?12:05
chronicpirateyeah12:05
irmandos!isitout | zetheroo12:05
chronicpirateit was12:05
ubottuzetheroo: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+112:05
krychekgeoaxis: with alternative cd yes.. but i dont think most ppl are doing it that way12:05
joaopintor3c0n, no, it's is a predefined support schedule12:05
r3c0ni was under the imperssion that all .04's were LTS12:05
chronicpirateevery other?12:05
[1]kinohow can I install the codecs while running the live cd?12:05
r3c0nah joapinto, so the next LTS will be 10.04 ?12:05
chronicpirateit might even be every three years12:05
r3c0njoaopinto*12:06
chronicpirateyes12:06
sveinseWow... People aren't talking about anything else than the release :o12:06
chronicpirateit wil be12:06
ActionParsnip[1]kino: same as you would in an installd system12:06
DJonesr3c0n: LTS are every 18 months12:06
MrStaticHiya, was wondering if anyone knew why my wifi is being assigned to eth1 which is screwing up a lot of things instead of wlan0, I checked the persistent rules and its listed12:06
ActionParsnip!medibuntu | [1]kino12:06
ubottu[1]kino: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org12:06
r3c0nare .04's more stable than .10's ?12:06
joaopintor3c0n, as far as I know yes12:06
joaopintor3c0n, no12:06
[1]kinoubottu, so what should I install?12:06
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:06
joaopintothey have the same development cycle12:06
Madpilotr3c0n, there's no difference12:06
ActionParsnipr3c0n: i guess it varys from system to system12:06
joaopintothe S on LTS is not about stability, is about support12:07
krychekr3c0n: who said LTS means more stable? it means only its supported for a longer period of time..12:07
r3c0ni know its about support12:07
r3c0nlong term support. i get it but its always the .04's that get the LTS12:07
r3c0ni guess that also has to do with fact that someone said its every 18 months12:07
r3c0nand since its every 6 months that we get a new version12:07
r3c0nthen it will always be .0412:07
bibsthaits been released!! yeppie12:07
bibsthaofficial announcement done12:07
joaopintor3c0n, right12:07
bibsthahttp://www.ubuntu.com/12:07
FloodBot2bibstha: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.12:08
krychekr3c0n: there are 3 non-lts releases between every lts12:08
r3c0no12:08
JPSmanHey everybody.  What is a good C IDE for gutsy?  I was toying with a kdevelop on a virtual KDE (slackware) and it looked GOOD.  I just want to know what's a good one for ubuntu?12:08
rm```JPSman: eclipse12:08
tsimpsonbibstha: not it has not12:08
joaopintobibstha, was not12:08
rm```and CDT12:08
r3c0nso since 8.04 had lts, 8.10 wont, and neither will 9.04 or 9.10. yeah so pretty much only .04's will have LTS12:08
bibsthahehe just testing.. u guys..12:08
joaopintoJPSman, code::blocks, don't know if there is a package for gutsy12:09
erUSULJPSman: Anjuta is the rough equivalent12:09
zaggynlhmm, 3MB/s12:09
r3c0nwhere you guys dling from?12:09
zaggynl♥ them quick mirrors12:09
zaggynlsome dutch ubuntu mirror12:09
JPSmanrm```, joaopinto, erUSUL - THANK YOU :OD12:09
rm```JPSman: sudo apt-get install eclipse-cdt if you want a fancy package, I prefer to download it directly from the website12:10
JPSmanare the archives down right now?12:10
to3000what time dose 9.04 come out12:11
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Newb`s!topic @ to300012:11
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about topic @ to300012:11
Newb`s:D12:11
aboyousifjaunty should be released now, right ?!12:12
finaltunewere is the release party?12:12
zcat[1]the last daily is pretty-much it anyhow.. previous releases ISTR the daily from the day before even had the same md5sum12:12
tsimpson!jaunty12:12
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party12:12
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aguitelhttp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/ubuntu-releases/9.04/12:12
krychekto3000: it will be released only tomorrow12:12
finaltuneno12:12
finaltuned12:12
finaltunetoday12:12
r3c0nis this the final stable version? http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/12:12
pyxii know the release is today but does any body know what time today ?12:12
tsimpsonr3c0n: no12:12
Alfrenovskyif it's not out yet, why http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ URLS doesn't incude any RC12:12
tsimpsonstop posting links12:13
MyrttiATTENTION: Jaunty is not yet released, and posting any links for downloads, be they torrents or to the isos themselves will get you kicked from the channel! Proceed to Party On at #ubuntu-release-party12:13
tsimpsonit's not out12:13
pspsampsp__get ubuntu 9.04 at releases.ubuntu.com12:13
r3c0nare you tricking me to take all the bandwidth? :P12:13
r3c0nlulz.. ok ill cancel this one12:13
JPSmanhrm - having problems with add/remove and synaptic finding necessary packages.  Is that because everyone is focusing on 9.04?12:13
AlfrenovskyMyrtti, Ok, sorry for posting the url, I'm asking why the files in this URL hace no "rc"12:13
brinstaryes id like to know why also12:14
DJonesJPSman: Its probably that people are hitting the servers looking for 9.04 causing time outs etc12:15
JPSmanDJones: greeaat.  Thanks anyway :OD  Still using 7.10 myself12:15
brinstarcan someone unban me from ubuntu-release-party? i didnt know i couldnt post links12:15
Le-Chuck_ITAis there a command line client to bring a window to the front? I would like to make a script that opens an already existing alltray client12:15
ExtendJPSman, 7.10 reached end of lifetime12:15
JPSmanExtend: what does that mean?12:16
MyrttiAlfrenovsky, brinstar: while the files on $URL might be not named as "RC"s, there still might be some changes to them with rsync. The files are named as they are so that the mirrors could get the files before the release. Please do not download those files yet and give the mirrors a chance first.12:16
DJones!eol | JPSman12:16
ubottuJPSman: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases12:16
ExtendJPSman, that means you are not receiving updates12:16
MyrttiAlfrenovsky, brinstar did that explain it at all?12:16
brinstarMyrtti: in other words, theres a strong likelihood that those are the final isos?12:17
[1]kinoi'm new to linux, so please excuse my ignorance. I am running the live cd with ubuntu 8.04. If I install a codec, after I remove the live cd, meaning I close the session, will the codec "be there" next time I run the live cd? It stays installed in the computer?12:17
krychek[1]kino: no12:17
holdenssno12:17
james7493brinstar: We all get it quicker if the mirrors get it first.12:17
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Matr|Xhello12:18
inaeternumthe livecd doesn't touch your computer unless you choose to install12:18
[1]kinokrychek: so every time i run the live cd and i want to see a video, I'll need to reinstall the codec again?12:18
Matr|Xhelp me with lamp-server12:18
AlfrenovskyMyrtti. Ok. i'll wait, anyway no one should download the isos directly. Torrent is a best option So we all can share bandwith12:18
DaveCo!release12:18
ubottuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases12:18
Myrttibrinstar: might be, might not, I'm not the release master so I wouldn't know. I strongly recommend you *NOT* to download anything yet so the mirrors will get a chance first12:18
DaveCo!jaunty12:18
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party12:18
AlfrenovskyMatr|X, What do you need with LAMP ?12:18
Matr|Xi had unstall lamp-server and when i install it agine now :S its not working12:18
JPSmanWhat will the next LTS be?12:19
Matr|Xah thex alfenovsky12:19
Spikiusif i would like to write script in mirc to connect to freenode, then identify and the join some chan, so it would be like >> .server -m irc.freenode.net12:19
inaeternumdoes ubuntu contain proprietary firmware blobs if I install it with the "free software only" option?12:19
brinstar10.04 JPSman12:19
Spikiusif i would like to write script in mirc to connect to freenode, then identify and the join some chan, so it would be like >> .server -m irc.freenode.net | ns identify pass | join #chan?12:19
Spikiussorry for a flood :)12:19
Matr|Xhere wht is the problem when i do the commands sudo tasksel install lamp-server12:19
brinstar6.06 > 8.04 > 10.0412:19
joaopintoSpikius, we don't support mirc here12:20
Spikius:)12:20
Matr|Xits stopped  in 79 % with Configuring mysql-server-5.012:20
Moonlitbrinstar - I thought you were listing your favourite versions for a sec there lol12:20
joaopintoSpikius, do you mean x-chat script ? try the xchat channel12:20
Matr|Xplz help me12:20
Spikiusno, i mean mirc :), im currently logged on into windows12:20
Matr|Xi came yestrday and i some one told me its stringes12:20
AlfrenovskyMatr|X, can't understand what is exactly your problem.12:20
krychek[1]kino: some codecs are already installed by default but you are right otherwise.. vlc doesnt need codecs i dont know if its on the live cd12:20
inaeternumit's not12:21
inaeternumtotem is12:21
maijkkkDoes anyone know where I can get information about when Kubuntu will be released?12:21
krychektomorrow12:21
[1]kinokrychek: so to watch a video with the live cd, I need to reinstall the codecs every time again12:21
jiffe1hmm12:21
jiffe1what time does mcd's open12:21
FlyOnThe1alljiffe1: check their websites12:21
Mylisto630 m12:21
Mylistoam12:21
MylistoI think12:22
inaeternum[1]kino: you have to, unless they are pre-installed (like Theora)12:22
brinstar10.04 is my favourite version12:22
jiffe1yeah, I'm not finding it on their site12:22
JPSmanIf I jump from 7.10 to 9.04, what should I expect?  What do i need to back up?12:22
[1]kinokrychek: can I install vlc in every live cd session?12:22
krychek[1]kino: live cd wont "remember" any changes after each reboot... maybe you should use a pendrive linux instead12:22
inaeternumdoes somebodyknow if ubuntu contain proprietary firmware blobs if I install it with the "free software only" option?12:23
brinstarJPSman: expect a faster system12:23
JPSmansure sure, but, what things will change?  will my desktop erase or will my icons be there?  will I have to install all my apps again?12:24
brinstardepends, not sure12:25
Fethihi12:25
Kruxer!ubuntu12:26
ubottuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com12:26
MaT-dgJPSman: hope for the best, prepare for the worst: ALWAYS make a backup of important documents.12:26
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nixzwow 1612 nicks12:26
Matr|Xye[12:27
JPSmanI just dont want to have to wrastle with my nvidia drivers again :OP12:27
HomreHello all, i have a little question about how to install a NVIDIA driver. I've been trying to install the 3 version that you can find under"restricted drivers available". But whenever i install it, and reboot my computer i can't load the GUI of ubuntu. I've also been reading up about this, but i can't seem to get the drivers working right. Any help possible?12:28
Le-Chuck_ITAare there packages for multi-pointer X in some ubuntu unofficial repository?12:28
HomreI'm also very new to ubuntu, so please take contact in a private room if you have any suggestions about what i can do.12:29
kbinghamhow do i get the 9.04 release upgrade? do i have to run apt-get separately, its not showing any upgrade. Is it just not released through the package manager yet?12:29
dn4Ubuntu 9.04 is not out yet, please don't ask when it will be?12:29
rubahaпривет12:30
Veziris anyone here in seattle? we should have a release party.12:30
glyjHomre : did you had a look at the wiki ?12:30
JPSmana yes a release party12:30
tsimpson!jaunty12:30
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party12:30
dn4!topic12:30
ubottuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic12:30
Spikiuskbingham then it will be out, you will be offered to upgrade12:30
Spikiusor you can simply run "dist-upgrade"12:30
mattsehim grabbing it now via torrent :)12:30
dn4 Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion in #ubuntu+1 | Ubuntu 9.04 is not out yet, please don't ask when it will be12:30
Spikiusmattgyver as i know its still the RC1 or smth like that via torrents12:31
Spikius9.04 its not out yet12:31
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mattsehhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ - seems final to me?12:31
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tsimpsonmattseh: no, it's not12:31
mattsehRC?12:32
Spikiusyup12:32
Spikiusits just been renamed :)12:32
tsimpsonwhen you see the announcement on the *front page* of ubuntu.com, then you know12:32
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mattsehif it's been renamed, then it is likely to become the release version?12:32
tsimpsonno12:32
koshar1it is out now12:33
tsimpsondon't download anything until the announcement12:33
progre55hi everybody! when is the ubuntu 9.04 coming out?12:33
tsimpson!jaunty12:33
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party12:33
tsimpsonit's not out yet, just wait12:33
MyrttiATTENTION: Jaunty is not yet released, and posting any links for downloads, be they torrents or to the isos themselves will get you kicked from the channel! Proceed to Party On at #ubuntu-release-party12:33
koshar19.04 its out now, it may just take time for some of the mirrors to catch up12:33
zaggynl:o12:33
shaunowhen you see laptops & bearded geeks in pubs, you'll know it's time12:33
mattsehheh12:33
sidewalkit is released12:33
zaggynlbut it's available on a mirror12:34
sidewalkupdate-manager says there is a new version available12:34
sidewalkor?12:34
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koshar1its wise to wait a little of use the torrent otherwise the mirrors get knocked around a bit12:35
Spikiusof course :)12:35
fabzor3hi12:35
fabzor3im trying to change my console resoultion12:35
Shortyyyhi, does anyone knoow if Ubuntu 9.04 i out today? I notice the countdown on the site has stopped12:35
fabzor3im just wondering how to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file12:36
petihy12:36
Spikius!jaunty12:36
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party12:36
petihello12:36
Shortyyythanks!12:36
georgihi all12:36
drinkycrownever count out installing random sound libraries until something works12:36
Spikiusfabzor3... well.. you can either use 'sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst'12:36
fabzor3cos it says dont uncomment the linuc bu/boot/grub/menu.lst cos it say dont uncomment but if thats the case where do i make the change12:36
mr_frosteeI just checked the site.  9.04 doesn't appear to be available yet.12:37
fabzor3yeah its cool i can edit it fine12:37
koshar1when will ubottu be updated?12:37
zaggynlmain site worked for me12:37
Spikiusor you can install startupmanager > does more or less everything12:37
fabzor3im just wondering about the way i should edit it12:37
koshar1mr_frostee depends where you look12:37
fabzor3hmm cool thanks i might try installing startupmanager12:37
mr_frostee9.04 RC has been working good for me, except flash in firefox still doesn't work.12:37
SPFfabzor3: http://www.linuxquestions.org/blog/archtoad6-147095/2007/12/29/vga-resolution-codes-for-grub-and-lilo-830/12:38
gachiman111join #ubuntu-release-part12:38
Shortyyythanks everyone :)12:38
fabzor3SPF: thanks looking now :D12:38
Mylistonow you guys are getting me interested in using Jaunty...12:38
Mylistowhats up with the notebook editions?12:38
gachiman111join #ubuntu-release-party12:39
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MarkJonesDoesnt seem to be #ubuntu-release-part12:40
nshepperdseems to me the official ubuntu.com download page should push bittorrent harder12:40
nshepperd"#ubuntu-release-party"12:40
MarkJonessorry got cut off. Cant find it though12:40
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Master-MindHey someone there have tried the new 9.04 ?12:41
nshepperdthe download servers always get whacked...12:41
nshepperdI'm using it now12:41
acr0nymhello12:41
MarkJonesI have the Jaunty-RC installed and using right now.12:41
nshepperdhave been since alpha 412:41
acr0nymI have a little problem, just installed easytag, but the windows is too big for my screen (eeepc) and I cannot make it smaller12:42
acr0nymany ideas?12:42
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MarkJonesacrOnym have you tried holding ALT key and moving window around to resize etc?12:42
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rubahaпривет12:43
acr0nymI can move it around I can change the horizontal size, but not the vertical size12:43
acr0nymso I'm missing about the third of the window12:43
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lizzzzardacr0nym: there is also a script/config hint on one of the wiki sites about allowing programs to switch to fullscreen using alt+f11, I believe. this could help12:44
rubahaздесь на русском?12:44
acr0nymthanks, I'll look into it12:44
MarkJonesacr0nym: I just installed easytag and it seems fine on mine.You have all updates?12:44
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Mr_Kaizerrubaha: #ubuntu-ru12:45
acr0nymI'm on rc release of jaunty and I installed it with sudo apt-get install easytag12:45
lizzzzardacr0nym: tell me if something works, inkscape does a similar thing for me12:45
acr0nymI have version 2.1.412:45
acr0nymlizzzzard, will do12:45
phixhow long now?12:45
lizzzzardthx12:45
MarkJonesWho knows12:45
kalibthe 9.04 will be released today?12:45
phixyeah12:45
MarkJonesyes today12:45
nshepperdphix: about 3 meters12:46
phixit is 21:45 on THursday here :)12:46
phixit will be Friday soon, they better hurry up :P12:46
_kal_kalib: ubuntu 9.04 is already released12:46
phix:D12:46
debsan8 :46 am here12:46
phix_kal_: where/12:46
jingjingubuntu is now realese?12:47
kalib_kal_, I mean the final one...12:47
debsanthursday just begins12:47
zykes-_kal_: where is it ?12:47
nebjakSRBhttp://rs.releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent12:47
nebjakSRBfinal?12:48
icerootnebjakSRB: look at the date from the torrent12:48
_kal_http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso12:48
icerootnebjakSRB: its from tooday12:48
jingjinghttp://mirror1.ku.ac.th/jaunty/ <-- this is jaunty realese?12:48
tsimpsonjingjing: no, and don't post links12:48
zirodayjingjing: no12:48
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phixnshepperd: :D metric! yay12:48
jingjingtsimpson: zirodaythankyou12:49
MrKeishiiin american version of the ubuntu site it is not released yet12:49
abchirkehm why I can create with mkfs.ext4 ext4 partitions when I can't use them... mount /dev/sda2 new -> unknown file system type ext4! :(12:49
* jingjing wait time for realese12:49
phixwhat does ext4 provide that ext3 doesn't?12:49
phixbecause the increment version number12:50
phixbecause = besides12:50
phixtypos12:50
lizzzzard!isitout | jingjing12:50
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Oli``phix: some things are a lot faster12:50
ubottujingjing: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+112:50
zirodayphix: its faster, unbelievable fsck times and other stuffs12:50
abchirkphix I read about better performance12:50
X-TaZphix : there is a good page on wikipedia about it12:50
MarkJonesext4 : http://www.linfo.org/ext4fs.html12:50
X-TaZYes, performance improved12:50
|ns|nR8how long till its official and all the repos go down12:50
xarvhis xubuntu also ready?12:51
ziroday|ns|nR8: before midnight samoan time12:51
abchirkBut what can I do that my intrepid mounts my ext412:51
ziroday!isitout | xarvh12:51
ubottuxarvh: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+112:51
Spikiushmz is the any 9.04 official banner?12:51
abchirkI want to debootstrap debian on it. :)12:51
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pawel_how to minimize fullscreen game?12:51
jingjing 12:52
Spikiusxexexe12:52
acr0nymI haven't found a way to fix it, but alt+moving works fine for now :)12:52
Spikiuslithuania still wins in most release partys12:52
progre55oh, is there any cool games under ubuntu??12:52
progre55other than cards and stuff :)12:52
Oli``progre55: yes, quite a few12:52
FlyOnThe1allmy personal favourite is bsd-tetris12:52
MarkJonesLooks like ext4 adds drive sizes up to 1024 terabytes as well as reduced fragmentation as seen in  in XFS, Reiser4 and ZFS (developed by Sun Microsystems for use in Solaris) filesystems.12:52
xarvhthanks12:52
lizzzzardacr0nym: thanks for coming back to tell us anyway12:53
MrKeishiiyeah there are alot of games12:53
progre55no, I mean, more advanced ones, not tetris :)12:53
Spikiusprogre55 there is a LOTS of games..12:53
MrKeishiilol12:53
penguinis there huge differences between ext3 and etx4?.12:53
Oli``progre55: lots of FPSes but WorldOfGoo is excellent if you've got a few spare quid12:53
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progre55Spikius, can you suggest me any, please? )12:53
kees-hm, partman doesn't detect my harddisk; but fdisk (and the kernel etc does).. is there any way i can manually do the things partman does, and skip over it to 'install the base system'12:53
xCat what time will 9.04 be released?12:53
Spikiusfrom Quake and other shooters till .. rpg, rts..12:53
Matr|Xparty wher and when:D12:53
Matr|X(H)12:53
lizzzzardprogre55: there are some fine games like sauerbraten -- also many windows games run under wine.12:53
Matr|Xi love party d12:53
MarkJonespenguin: Looks like ext4 adds drive sizes up to 1024 terabytes as well as reduced fragmentation as seen in  in XFS, Reiser4 and ZFS (developed by Sun Microsystems for use in Solaris) filesystems.12:53
Pici!isitout | xC12:53
ubottuxC: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+112:53
|ns|nR8is there an ubuntu party room ?12:53
|ns|nR8cheers12:53
Spikiuswell.. one of my favorites is OpedTTD (its Transport Tycoon Deluxe rewriten and optimized to be a bit realistic)12:54
progre55Oli``, lizzzzard, thanks guys, I'll try them  =now :)12:54
lizzzzardprogre55: there are some linux games list out there. if you tell us a genre maybe we can think of something specific12:54
sponzorcan you run cisco vpn client on kubuntu?12:54
JPSmanwill the update manager be able to take me from 7.10 to 9.04 ???12:54
xarvhprogre55: http://www.happypenguin.org/ but right now is down12:54
lizzzzard|ns|nR8: #ubuntu-release-party12:55
|ns|nR8thanks lizzzzard12:55
Oli``progre55: if you open up add/remove and look in the games section, you can sort the games by order of popularity to get an idea of which games are... erm... most popular12:55
MarkJonesJPSman why not just download the ISO so you wont have to download the updates again if needed later?12:55
dantalizingsponzor: yes you want the network-manager-vpnc package12:55
progre55Oli``, thanks man, appreciate! )12:55
xarvhhow do I allow a secondary user to install programs but without allowing any other root privilege?12:55
progre55lizzzzard, smth like counter strike, or online strategy games12:55
Spikiusxarvh > sudo ?!12:56
p-fWhat's the usual culprit when having battery life issues? I get about 2 hours of battery on linux, 6.5 on windows...12:56
JPSmanMarkJones: because i dont want to do a whole other install - what about the alternate ISO, could I go from 7.10 to 9.04 that way?12:56
xarvhSpikius: do I have to play with sudoers?12:56
xarvhSpikius: and enable just apt-get is enough?12:56
MarkJonesyeah sudo but admin need to be behind the user for password.But yeah that works.12:56
phixlizzzzard: it isn't releases yet? but it is in releases.ubuntu.org, or is that the rc?12:56
phixhmmm well it isnt marked as being rc12:56
JPSmanphix - no its there12:57
Oli``p-f: not having the right chipset drivers installed. Ubuntu needs to know how to scale your CPU, HDs, etc... If it doesn't have the drivers (or doesn't have them enabled) it won't be able to save power effectively12:57
MrKeishiiwhen will it be released in america?12:57
Spikiusxarvh dont know exactly, bet lets say userB have to install something, so he has to have ability to run apt-get, dpkg maybe.. ant have access to sudo..12:57
p-fOli``: is there a page with a list?12:57
lizzzzardphix no, final is not out yet12:57
berkesMrKeishii: /topic?12:57
Spikiusbut i cant say for sure12:57
mib_7ppdsicould somebody here help me with a problem i have with ubuntu 8.10?12:57
phixJPSman: talk to lizzzzard12:57
dekkong!ubuntu12:57
ubottuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com12:57
Oli``p-f: it really depends on the specific hardware, but if you google for "<your laptop model> ubuntu" you should find somebody else with the same problem12:57
MarkJonesMrKeishii: When will hwta be released in amaerica?12:57
p-fOli``: alright, thanks12:57
MarkJoneswhat*12:57
phixMarkJones: your mum12:58
lizzzzardprogre55: also maybe you like nexuiz12:58
phixMarkJones: what else could it be12:58
abchirkhm I have the intrepid kernel and it seems that the kernel doesn't provide ext4 maybe I have to load a modul for it?12:58
JPSmanlizzzzard: but i'm torrenting it now . . . ?12:58
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phixabchirk: maybe that is a bad idea12:58
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lizzzzardJPSman: it says on the release notes page12:58
dfshow to install softwaref rom the ubuntu cd12:58
Guest86118hi12:58
progre55lizzzzard, cool, I'll try it now :) thanks man12:58
MarkJonesWell you have to like live under a rock to like not know. Ubuntu.com is worldwide not just US.12:58
Oli``p-f: there are lists, but they're not very well maintained. You'll likely have better luck finding a specific how-to about your laptop (if it's popular) or other people asking for help on the forums if it's less popular12:58
lizzzzardJPSman: about updating.12:58
MarkJonesstupid freaking people.12:58
JPSmanlizzzzard: thank you :OD12:58
Spikiusabchirk you thing that "havving" kernel is enough? :)12:58
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ubottuMarkJones: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+112:58
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ubottuPlease remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties12:59
abchirkphix If you do not like it... don't use it12:59
lizzzzardprogre55: that'd be 'mam instead of man ;)12:59
comairhello all. I am trying to install a sharp mx2600 n printer on my ubuntu system. I downloaded the correct driver and added the printer to ubuntu. When i try to print the printer warms up but prints no page. Can anyone help?12:59
Spikiuskernel only brings you support for a ext412:59
phixabchirk: I dont use it12:59
lizzzzardprogre55: or whatever americans say12:59
abchirkSpikius hehe no... just wondering how can I get support for this filesystem?12:59
phixabchirk: for that reson12:59
MarkJonesThat darn bot needs some new AI12:59
kandinsk1preferred hex editor for changing text strings in a program?12:59
lizzzzardJPSman: what you are downloading is likely the release candidate or a fake.12:59
Guest86118do i need to setup any AV's or spyware on my linux installation?12:59
kandinsk1I have the source but I can't make it compile, so I am going for the dirty approach13:00
rumpel@guest why?13:00
PiciGuest86118: Not unless you're hosting files for Windows users and want to be extra secure.13:00
dfsi have loaded the ubuntu installation cd and i dont find any software on it in synaptic package manager. does the cd not come with any software packages13:00
phixlizzzzard: look on ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/13:00
Spikiusabchirk well if you use .. 8.04 or 8.10 then its more or less EASY if youll do it on partition that can be unmounted easily13:00
phixlizzzzard: the official site is a fake too?13:00
znikanyone aware of any open source summer programs like google summer of code?13:00
Piciphix: Its not out. Please stop posting links.13:00
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progre55lizzzzard, oops, sorry mam :) didnt know you were a lady =)13:00
phixPici: ok13:00
phixhaha13:00
phixwell I guess I will go to sleep then :(13:00
Spikiusyoull need kernel and fs driver if i remember it correctly13:00
Oli``Guest11562: If you're downloading dodgy stuff and sharing it with Windows machines, getting some anti-virus might be something to consider. Less of an issue for other malware though.13:00
abchirkSpikius I have 8.10 and I can create ext4 but I can't mount it13:01
MarkJonesok im outa here its just redundant questions over and over.later guys13:01
comairhello all. I am trying to install a sharp mx2600 n printer on my ubuntu system. I downloaded the correct driver and added the printer to ubuntu. When i try to print the printer warms up but prints no page. Can anyone help?13:01
Guest86118Pici, i'm not hosting any files for Windows Users but i do want to be extra secure..13:01
xarvhSpikius: ok, thanks, i'll messa round with sudo13:01
lizzzzardphix: I imagine this would be what this page links to? http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/beta13:01
PiciGuest86118: Theres no chance that you yourself will become infected.13:01
boumaloafers13:01
boumaseems like loafers left13:02
znikanyone aware of any open source summer programs like google summer of code?13:02
Pici!ot13:02
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!13:02
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Guest86118Pici, even for spywares?13:02
PiciGuest86118: Indeed.13:02
Spikiusabchirk13:02
Guest86118Pici, tnx13:02
dfshow do i install programs in ubuntu without internet connection. that is by using the installation cd. heard that it contains some extra software. after all it was a big download13:02
Spikiusdid you tried looking at http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-convert-ext3-to-ext4-file-system.html or smth like this?13:02
kees-hm, partman doesn't detect my harddisk; but fdisk (and the kernel etc does).. is there any way i can manually do the things partman does, and skip over it to 'install the base system'? aka; what does partman do :P13:02
boumai was going to say i can download the webstart standalone kgs client.. and it works.. but my firefox still wont play java.. but i dont care as much, cause ive got the two java programs i need most to run standalone13:02
sourcemakerhow can I install the ubuntu server with encrypted FS (LUKS LVM) like the alternative ubuntu installation?13:02
Oli``Pici: That's a dangerous statement.. There's always a chance.13:02
phixlizzzzard: look at it --> lrwxrwxrwx    1 1000     1000           37 Apr 23 07:43 ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso -> ../.pool/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso13:02
boumastill 64 bit java has evaded me, ive pretty much given up13:02
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phixlizzzzard: does that look beta to you?13:03
boumalol13:03
comairhello all. I am trying to install a sharp mx2600 n printer on my ubuntu system. I downloaded the correct driver and added the printer to ubuntu. When i try to print the printer warms up but prints no page. Can anyone help?13:03
lizzzzardphix http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/beta links there.13:03
phixbouma: 64bit java ay, they have long long;s? :)13:03
Lint01I've suddenly lost the sound, how can I troubleshoot it?13:03
boumabtw will 9.04 fix 64 bit java for me ?13:03
abchirkSpikius no.. *look* :)13:03
Spikius:)13:03
lizzzzardphix so yeah, looks beta to me13:03
mib_7ppdsimy computer with ubuntu 8.10 won't boot anymore (modprobe abnormal exit), can anybody here help me with this probleme?13:03
boumaphix: hrm, yeah i cant get 64 bit java to work13:03
phixlizzzzard: hmmm. interesting13:03
abchirkI just found an howto in espanol... but no hablo espanol :P13:03
lightpriest_9.04 is still RC?13:04
PiciYes.13:04
boumaphix: i mean i cant get java to work under firefox, as a plugin, with sun.13:04
phixbouma: how would 64bit java work? I mean there is no primitive for a 64bit number, only a 32bit one13:04
phixprimitive datatype that is13:04
abchirkSpikius but the problem is that my kernel doesn't support it, I guess because he doesn't know the filesystem. :(13:04
dfsis it just me or does ubuntu suck.13:04
icerootdfs: its only you13:04
lightpriest_dfs, it's just you ;p13:04
boumaphix: no real*8's or complex*16's ?13:04
phixdfs: debian for the win :D13:04
lizzzzardI am out of here, just the same questions again and again today. Maybe later. Seeya13:05
Spikiusabchirk you just said that kernel SUPPORTS it.. so ...13:05
phixbouma: ?13:05
Spikiusdoes it or does it not?13:05
lightpriest_phix, testing or stable?13:05
boumaphix: fortran13:05
Spikius!jaunty13:05
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abchirkSpikius I thought he has to... but he doesn't ;)13:05
MylistoI eventually want to update to jaunty from 8.4  whats the chance that something can go wrong?13:05
phixbouma: I know nothing about fortran, he are talking about java13:05
boumaphix: double prec..13:05
Natalieehttp://www.ihateyounatalie.com/?id=142616913:05
Natalieehttp://www.ihateyounatalie.com/?id=142616913:05
FloodBot2Nataliee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.13:05
phixthe only thing I know about fortran is to stay away from it13:05
kendrickoh noes. my firefox!?!?!?!13:06
boumaphix: well you started talking about programming.. i just want to get firefox java to work13:06
dfsiceroot this thing is worse than windows it does not even have proper shortcut keys13:06
Spikiusabchirk well if you know what ur doing, you can manually compile your kernel13:06
hbekelabchirk: zcat /proc/config.gz | grep EXT413:06
boumaphix: under 64 bit ubuntu 8.10 .. do you think 9.04 will fix all my problems13:06
phixbouma: so what does 64bit have to do with it?13:06
phixbouma: it is still a 32bit binary though13:06
Lint01I've suddenly lost the sound, how can I troubleshoot it?13:06
abchirkSpikius hm yes... :/ isn't there any module13:06
dfsi was expecting ubuntu to have atleast some basic shortcut keys13:06
g_is it a good idea to upgrade right now?13:06
dfsenough with it13:07
Spikiusabchirk hell knows..13:07
phixbouma: I was put off by you saying 64bit java13:07
abchirkhbekel I haven't this config....13:07
abchirkhehe13:07
lightpriest_dfs, you could define them in gnome13:07
boumaphix: is it? so ubuntu 64 will run 32 and 64bit software together ? am i able to use 32bit java plugin with 64bit firefox ?13:07
phixbouma: of corse13:07
boumaphix: do i need to switch to 32bit firefox ?13:07
GNUixwow talk about a long dance.. just ask the quesiton does 9.04 has the new 64bit sun java plugin13:07
lightpriest_dfs, depends on the window manager you use13:07
boumaGNUix: does it ?13:07
lightpriest_lol13:07
hbekelabchirk: if you want help, be specific13:07
GNUixbouma: couldn't tell you, I downloaded it and installed it myself13:08
boumadoes 9.04 has the new 64bit sun java plugin?13:08
kendrickso adept told me some updates were available. they all seemed to be firefox3 and xulrunner-related (are there logs i can look at to find out precisely what was updated?)13:08
Gun_Smokehbekel, what no glass ball?13:08
kendrick(this is on 8.10 btw)13:08
dfslightpriest_: sorry guys honestly i dont see shortcut keys for those three things on the top no underlined letters either. places and system13:08
abchirkhbekel I created a ext4 partition under ubuntu 8.10 but I can't mount it.. -> unknown filesystem type ext413:08
boumaGNUix: thats the go is it ? downloading and building your own deb ?13:08
phixbouma: that could work, although I don't think a 32bit plugin would have any issues running on a 64bit application13:08
kendricknow when i launch firefox i get a grey window with no menu bar. there is the throbber at the top right.13:08
hbekelabchirk: what did the command i told you return?13:08
Gun_Smoke1600+ today eh... release must be soon.. lol..13:09
phixbouma: unless of corse there at coding differences in the plugin api13:09
GNUixbouma: No, I just downloaded the binary, ran it and symlinked it to my plugin folder13:09
kendrickit seems to respond to Ctrl+O (open dialog appears) and Ctrl+L (a completely empty tiny window appears)13:09
kendrickGun_Smoke: heh13:09
dfsfor applications thereis alt+f1 .but for system and places no shortcut key13:09
abchirkhbekel I haven't config.gz13:09
phixbouma: I would say that would be pretty standard to allow plugins to work in the first place ;)13:09
lightpriest_dfs, what? :)13:09
comairhello all. I am trying to install a sharp mx2600 n printer on my ubuntu system. I downloaded the correct driver and added the printer to ubuntu. When i try to print the printer warms up but prints no page. Can anyone help?13:09
lightpriest_dfs, what about ALT+f1?13:09
dfsfor applications thereis alt+f1 .but for system and places no shortcut key13:09
lizzzzardkendrick: did you restart it? it sometimes behaves that way after updates13:09
abchirkBut its a standard kernel from intrepid hbekel13:09
kendrickany ideas how to diagnose what broke? or at least roll back to the previous version?13:10
GNUixphix: It isn't rocked science 32bit plugins don't work with 64bit browsers without middleware..13:10
kendricklizzzzard: yes. i noticed it wasn't going to an URL, realized that adept had finished, so i quit and restarted.13:10
kendrickthat's when it just came up grey13:10
dfsin windows i used to use keybreeze to launch my applications but in ubuntu i am having to use the stupid mouse13:10
kendrickdfs - tried kde? ;)13:10
lightpriest_dfs, how long did it took to find out about keybreeze?13:11
phixGNUix: you dont say13:11
kendrickhrm. now my big grey broken firefox window does not seem to respond to Ctrl+O or Ctrl-L shortcuts :(13:11
phixGNUix: most new apps would have that compatibilty, otherwise it is a shit app :)13:11
kendrickif i launch firefox from a term and give it an URL, it seems to load the page (though not render it), because i see the title in the titlebar13:11
yeayea911hi13:11
lizzzzarddfs: there is an app that allows the same thing, i cant remember its name right now, will tell you when it comes back to me13:11
kendricke.g., i now have a useless gre window with the title "Google - Mozilla Firefox"13:12
hbekelabchirk: do you have /usr/src/linux-<kernel-version>/.config?13:12
lightpriest_dfs, you could simply use alt+f2 or you could define a combination per command13:12
joaopintodfs, please feel free to write a bug report explaining your problem13:12
GNUixphix: why would you want to use middleware to wrap a 32bit plugin to work in a 64bit browser if you can just use the 64bit plugin13:12
kendrickbtw - i had no funky firefox plugins. just firebug.13:12
dfsbut why didnt they put any shortcut key that was like obvius13:12
Type3Singularitydfs: There are a few dozen alternative to keybreeze13:12
brinstarcan someone unban me from ubuntu release party?13:13
abchirkhbekel yes... and there is EXT4DEV as module and EXT4DEV all yes13:13
Gun_Smokebrinstar, haha.. how'd you get that?13:14
lightpriest_lol13:14
Mylistowhat did you do brinstar:?13:14
dfsok i dont want to annoy u guys too much . i see there are enough friendly people in the ubuntu communuty though at any rate.even if ubuntu sucks.13:14
Mylistobad language?13:14
brinstarposted a link :S13:14
brinstari didnt know that was considered a deadly sin13:14
lizzzzarddfs: you might be interested in gnome-do: http://do.davebsd.com/13:14
Mylistowhat link?13:14
hbekelabchirk: did you modprobe ext4dev13:14
brinstarthe releases dot ubuntu one13:14
kendrickhrm. moving ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla-bak and launching firefox does not help13:14
alex2!jaunty13:14
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party13:14
lightpriest_dfs, what's "obvious" in windows is open for you to customize in ubuntu/linux13:14
kendrickand, in fact, a new .mozilla is not created13:15
brinstarnot like everyone doesnt know it anyway13:15
brinstarcan someone unban me13:16
Gun_Smokebrinstar, I'd bet your going to sit this one out..13:16
bazhangbrinstar, /j #ubuntu-ops13:16
abchirkhbekel ah if I use ext4dev as fs I can mount it... but not ext4 only, whats the difference?13:16
GNUixsomebody should update the bot and include a timezone because in Korea it is april 23rd13:16
brinstarok bazhang i'll ask13:16
yeayea911where is my 9.04 system update13:16
yeayea911:)13:16
kendrickdpkg.log shows me that the packages it updated this morning were:  "firefox-3.0-branding 3.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.213:17
kendrick 3.0.9+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.1"13:17
kendrickerr rather13:17
* kendrick sighs13:17
hbekelabchirk: your kernel still has the unstable development version. You should upgrade to a 2.6.30 kernel, and even then it's on your own risk. ext4 is pretty new13:17
Imkerdie!13:17
kendrick"firefox-3.0-branding xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support xulrunner-1.9 firefox-3.0-gnome-support firefox-3.0 firefox firefox-gnome-support"13:18
JPSman"it is not out yet"13:18
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kendrickso, uh... how do i downgrade?13:18
abchirkhbekel is it easy with 8.10 to upgrade the kernel?13:18
JPSmankendrick - download an older version and install it13:18
rskiabchirk: Not too easy if you haven't compiled a kernel before.13:18
Gubawhen will came new ubuntu13:19
hbekelabchirk: upgrading a kernel isn't too hard if you know what you're doing13:19
rskiabchirk: also what kind of upgrade are you talking about13:19
Doblecan anyone tell me how to run a scipt? I'm trying "sudo Linux/install.sh" but I recieve "Command not found"13:19
abchirkOk I thought I can do it over synaptic. :) rski about ext4 :)13:19
Mr_KaizerOkey...Ubuntu is freaking me out now...13:19
kendricki seem to have older ones in my apt cache13:19
lightpriest_Doble, what do you want to do?13:20
Gubahow much is a "coming soon"?13:20
acr0nymDoble, I'm not sure but I think you might have to put ./ infront of it13:20
rskiabchirk: easiest way will be to wait untill 9.04 and upgrade to that and it will support etx, it will be released pretty soon today or tomorow.13:20
acr0nymlike ./install.sh13:20
rskiext4*13:20
Mr_KaizerIt's been broken for 3 days now, been unable to get the desktop to load properly, now it suddenly works without me having done anything O-o13:20
hbekelabchirk: you shouldn't use ect4dev for important data. if you just play around with it, don't mind upgrading the kernel13:20
acr0nymyou have to cd first into Linux though13:20
JPSmanso the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is the kubuntu uses KDE and ubuntu uses gnome?13:20
Doblelightpriest_: I am trying to install xenserver tools ... i have to run the install script to begin the install.13:20
lightpriest_rski, I installed the rc and ext4 is not the default13:20
henkpoleyMr_Kaizer: You mean X11 didn't run? Maybe it now started the VESA fallback ?13:20
lightpriest_Doble, have you downloaded the source package?13:20
henkpoleyMr_Kaizer: or your hardware is failing13:21
abchirkhbekel yeah its only for a small debian for my laptop :)13:21
rskilightpriest_: Yes. but that's not what we talked about.13:21
Aberration23Hi all!13:21
Type3SingularityJPSman: Basically, theres a load of different desktop applications though13:21
alex2i cant wait for jaunty13:21
hbekelhbekel: i don't know how heavily patched the ubuntu kernels are. using a vanilla 2.6.30 might break stuff. better wait for ubuntu to ship 2.6.30 if you want a stable ext413:21
Aberration23I tried to install tomboy but my internet connection failed me in the middle of it. I cant' remove the brocken tomboy...help13:21
DaveCo!jaunty13:21
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party13:21
kendrickCRAP!!!!!!!13:21
sourcemakerubuntu server contains the function: Encrypted private directory... how can I encrypted the whole fs?13:22
hbekelabchirk: and although ext4 support is considered ready now, it's still very fresh13:22
Doblelightpriest_: no, I got it out of the ISO and copied it to the server guest using SSH13:22
kendrickkendrick@dell-desktop:/var/cache/apt/archives$ sudo dpkg -i firefox-3.0-branding_3.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.2_i386.deb firefox-3.0_3.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.2_i386.deb firefox-3.0-gnome-support_3.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.2_i386.deb xulrunner-1.9_1.9.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.1_i386.deb xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support_1.9.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.1_i386.deb13:22
kendrickblah blah warning downgrading...13:22
Mr_Kaizerhenkpoley: Unsure...I've been suspecting HW error, but it ran just fine from the Live CD, even though it wouldn't boot normaly.13:22
kendrickbut it's STILL giving me this weird grey window!!?! OMG13:22
Spikiustsimpson are you available? :)13:22
abchirkhbekel I know thats why I want to test it.. and see if its really faster. :)13:22
* Vegar looks for the countdown timer13:22
Mr_Kaizersudo release-9.04 :D13:23
abchirkhbekel or I download an 9.04 iso and make with that the ext4 and the debootstrap13:23
tsimpsonSpikius: not exactly13:23
hadisanyone can help me , i cant install  stellarium-0.10.0.tgz13:23
lightpriest_Doble, i'm not sure if that will get you a good result... have you searched it in the repositories?13:23
henkpoleyhadis: What is it saying ?13:23
henkpoleyhadis: pastbin the error13:24
joaopintohadis, isn't stelarium available from the repositories ?13:24
zcat[1]hadis, any reason you're not installing from the repos?13:24
armagheddonsgwhi, someone help me please... some arse shut down my comp while it was updating ubuntu... now it doesnt work. atm im using the live CD cos every OS on my comp is buggered.. anyway i can repair ubuntu? it refuses to start cos of some file or... whatever... that it cant find/ connect to13:24
henkpoleyhadis: pastebin even13:24
Doblelightpriest_: no, I tried "sudo apt-get install xen-tools" but didn't find anything, how can I search for it?13:24
Spikiuswell a quick question to u theh > do u know in what form in #ubuntu-release-party chan will be announced release? i would like to do "highlite" on that text so i would hear it :)13:24
hbekelabchirk: yes, you might want to do that13:24
lightpriest_Doble, what exactly do you need again? i'll look it up13:24
pan1nxanybody that can explain why the dm-snapshot.ko is not in linux-image-generic but in linux-image-386 only?13:24
Mr_KaizerMy monitor keeps showing up as "Unknown", is there any way to fix that?13:24
Boohbah!info xen-tools13:24
ubottuxen-tools (source: xen-tools): Tools to manage Debian XEN virtual servers. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.9-3 (intrepid), package size 175 kB, installed size 976 kB13:25
dansmith91Hey, if we can't ask 'when' (for the release), where can we ask that?13:25
abchirkhbekel I guess its better :) thanks for you help13:25
hbekelabchirk: i wouldn't for a production machine13:25
BoohbahDoble: make sure to enable the universe repo13:25
Doblelightpriest_: sorry, I just got it working ... should have tried that first13:25
abchirkhbekel yeah me too... its just a laptop for wardrivin. :)13:25
armagheddonsgwumm... help please?13:25
lightpriest_:)13:25
Dobleboohbah: yeah I just missed a really obvious fix hehe, thanks :)13:25
Doblethanks for help both13:25
DASPRiDdansmith91, soon™13:25
BoohbahDoble: welcome :)13:25
yeayea911where is my 9.04 system update13:26
DASPRiDyeayea911, soon™13:26
DASPRiDor just:13:26
rskiyeayea911: not released yet13:26
DASPRiDyeayea911, update-manager -d13:26
JPSmanyeayea911 - what version are you currently using?13:26
yeayea9118.1013:26
rjharvhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/13:26
rjharv9.04 is there13:26
rjharv:P13:26
fabzor3out to ask about 9.0413:27
rskiit's not released untill it's announced on the mailinglist13:27
fabzor3and still am13:27
rjharvjust teh front page hasn't updated13:27
* kendrick gives up13:27
kendricki need to get back to bed13:27
fabzor3whats the deal is it out yet?13:27
kendrickyergh <:^(13:27
Pici!isitout13:27
ubottuJaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+113:27
rskieverything before that i a lie13:27
rskifabzor3: correct13:27
ahecklerrjharv: but i suppose that is the RC, not the "official" release13:27
fabzor3but they didnt update thier web page?@!?!13:27
rjharvno its not the rc13:27
DASPRiDaheckler, doesnt make any diffrence13:27
yeayea911nothing in update manager yet13:27
rjharvi think they are waiting for the mirrors to sync13:27
alex2 /join #ubuntu-release-party13:27
alex2xD13:27
DASPRiDaheckler, better do it now than later when the server bandwidths are all in use ;)13:27
Aberration23hello?13:27
Aberration23my connection is dead again...13:27
Aberration23or not??13:27
fabzor3k13:27
fabzor3/join #ubuntu-release-party13:28
J-_"USB Startup Disk Creator" Will that let me install Ubuntu from USB once I get an image on the usb drive?13:28
JPSmanAberration23: maybe13:28
ahecklerDASPRiD: well i can't really seed the ISO back if i'm busy installing, so i like to wait until the torrents are pretty busy13:28
Type3SingularityIts not the RC the md5sums are different, they have to push out the iso to the mirrors so it ends up in the release.ubuntu.org before its officially 'released' and them people in here pretend its not the 'release' because its not 'announced'13:28
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yeayea911JPSman and DADPRiD nothing in update manager yet13:28
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DASPRiDyeayea911, "update-manager -d" ?13:29
Type3SingularityThere is also a small chance that there is some major bug and they have to fix it at the last minute13:29
JPSmanyeayea911 - thats because "its not out yet"13:29
yeayea911I did update-manager -d nothing13:29
lantay77what's the best command line bittorrent client? I want to grab the new ubuntu release today13:29
yeayea911happened13:29
DASPRiDyeayea911, thats unusuall...13:29
rskilantay77: rtorrent works good for me13:29
rjharvType3Singularity is correct13:29
zaggynllantay77: I'm a fan of rtorrent13:29
yeayea911weird13:29
kandinsk1so which Hex editor do you recommend?13:29
rskilantay77: but there's in 99% of cases no "best" client13:30
rskifor any type of job13:30
rskijust what you prefer.13:30
lantay77yeah.. but i knew of none for command line until now =p13:30
rskiand that in terms is the best client for you13:30
lantay77is ctorrent good?13:30
alex2where i can find all Ubuntu rls names ?13:30
Pici!codenames | alex213:30
ubottualex2: Ubuntu has awesome release codenames. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames for more13:30
rskialex2: the wiki should  have them or wikipedia13:30
Type3Singularitylantay77: I like deluge, it has GUI / Webinterface and console. I'm not sure how the console compares to rtorrent though13:30
alex2thank you13:30
lantay77oh13:31
defrysktransmission does the job for me13:31
danliiWhy does linux_logo default to Debian logo in older releases of Ubuntu and to FreeBSD logo in jaunty?13:31
Type3SingularityDeluge also allows for remote GUI clients :)13:31
DASPRiD" Karmic13:31
DASPRiD13:31
DASPRiDKoala13:31
DASPRiD13:31
DASPRiD9.1013:31
FloodBot2DASPRiD: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.13:31
DASPRiD13:31
defryskdeluge tends to use resources13:31
rskidanlii: that's not true for me. where do you see it?13:32
italomaiaWhere's 9.04???13:33
aheckler*sigh*13:33
italomaiatoday is 23 already!!13:33
Pici!isitout | italomaia13:33
ubottuitalomaia: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+113:33
Boohbahitalomaia: strange, you're the first person to ask about that today13:33
blue112" Ubuntu 9.04 is not out yet, please don't ask when it will be"13:34
blue112Ok xD13:34
* Mohero sits twiddling his thumbs waiting for the 9.04 release..... it's now 13:33 in the country the press release was in....13:34
danliirski: Just by running linux_logo without altering the config file.13:34
italomaiarsrsrs, going to #ubuntu-release-party then13:34
BoltClocki have had problems with intrepid regarding i think alsa and networkmanager, and im back to hardy. does jaunty fix the issue, hopefully?13:34
blue112Anyway hello :p13:34
italomaiablue112, k13:34
Anakindid anyone had freezing problems with ubuntu 9.04 rc ? when I try to run apt-get it freezes my entire system13:34
BoohbahBoltClock: there's only one way to find out13:34
defryskthe Ubuntu release-switch-operator is still sleeping13:34
MoheroAnakin: nope13:34
joaopintoBoltClock, unless you reported the problem and followed up it's resolution, you will just know by testing...13:35
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Moherodefrysk: where is he still sleeping? I have acattle-prod... ;-)13:35
Moheroand... what's wrong with CRON :P13:35
BoltClockjoaopinto: i never did resolve it... sigh13:35
alex2not out yet13:35
BoltClock7.10 totally could not install, 8.04 worked perfectly, 8.10 had alsa and networkmanager shenanigans. gah13:36
chazcoHi... how can I check files against a list of md5sums?13:36
finaltune_tsimpson: did you tried to ban me? lol13:36
joaopintochazco, md5sum file, then check the results13:36
Boohbahchazco: md5sum file13:36
Moherowell, one of the guys in the office is on 9.04 RC, he's a SUSE user, but... that wouldn't instal on his system, neither would Fedora, Ubuntu would though ;-)13:36
Caseywhen is 9.04 coming out?13:37
DASPRiDCasey, today13:37
Pici!isitout | Casey13:37
ubottuCasey: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+113:37
chazcojoaopinto & Boohbah - There used to be a way to make it check against a list and print something like "file1 OK" etc... trying to remember how to do that13:37
sipiorchazco: if you've a long list to check, try "md5sum -c <filename>"13:37
* Mohero changes topic to: Ubuntu 9.04 isn't yet released, stop asking...13:37
Mohero:P13:37
DASPRiDMohero, heh13:37
Mr_KaizerI'm trying to save a new X Configuration file, but the system won't let me. What to do?13:37
BoltClocklol13:37
sipiorchazco: where the file given is the md5sum list13:37
DASPRiDMohero, people should just upgrade to the rc if they cant wait, its stable :)13:37
chazcosipior - Ah thanks, thats what I was looking for... thought it was more difficult :)13:37
MoheroI agree, unfortunatly I'm not allowed to, because it has the "RC" label :(13:38
goliath_bonjour13:38
skeeter_101I am running Ubuntu  8.10 Intrepid and have configured my browser "Firefox 3" with mplayer to play embeded videos and on a few sites that I visit often the player buffers the vid and loads and plays, but mplayer does not adjust the size of the vid to fit in the player window.  It's like I am only seeing 1/3 of the vid.  Is there a way I can make an adjustment to have the vid adjust to size of the window mplayer uses?13:38
DASPRiDMohero, whats wrong about that?13:38
Moheronot officially released ;)13:38
Pici!party13:38
ubottuPlease remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties13:38
Moherounfortunately, it's a company policy13:38
BoohbahMohero: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM13:38
Type3SingularityOr update to the "its not released yet" iso on release.ubuntu.org13:38
Moheroone that I WROTE! - but I didn't put that in, Boss added that bit in :(13:39
skeeter_101One site that I am talking about is "www.3boutdoors.com"13:39
MoheroBoohbah: wasn't me13:39
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Boohbahchazco: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM13:39
goliath_hi, i have a samsung R610 and i am french13:39
goliath_i resolved a problem on samsung13:39
joaopintoMohero, a company policy just testing/using a new release when it's final, it's kind of flawed, on a company you are expected to test new releases sooner13:39
chazcoBoohbah - Thanks :)13:40
Pici!fr | goliath_13:40
ubottugoliath_: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr13:40
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Moherojoaopinto: yes, but not on my main desktop...13:40
Moherojoaopinto: I have it on my test machine, runs fine, but can't put it on here till release...13:40
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PeteyLustighi everybody13:41
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Moherowell, I say here, that could be anywhere, ssh is a wonderful thing, I'm all over the place at the moment13:41
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skeeter_101I am running Ubuntu  8.10 Intrepid and have configured my browser "Firefox 3" with mplayer to play embeded videos and on a few sites that I visit often the player buffers the vid and loads and plays, but mplayer does not adjust the size of the vid to fit in the player window.  It's like I am only seeing 1/3 of the vid.  Is there a way I can make an adjustment to have the vid adjust to size of the window mplayer uses?  A site13:42
skeeter_101 that shows me this issue is "www.3boutdoors.com".......13:42
oipat9.04 today, right?13:42
BoltClockoipat: thereabouts13:42
dt3koipat: i think its already out13:42
plsddt3k, no13:42
joaopintodt3k, it is not !13:42
BoltClockdt3k: no13:42
dt3khttp://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/13:42
DASPRiDMohero, oh, btw, april, 12009, will the ubuntu release be 9.04 again then?13:43
joaopintoit is out only when it's official announced13:43
dt3kmind explaining what this is then?13:43
brutalisWhen the time comes: How do I upgrade my server from from 8.10 to 9.04 from the remote terminal?13:43
oipatdt3k: Thanks13:43
BoohbahDASPRiD: ten thousand years in the future?13:43
DASPRiDbrutalis, see ubuntu.com13:43
BoltClockbrutalis: i think its sudo apt-get dist-upgrade13:43
DASPRiDBoohbah, ya ;)13:43
Type3Singularity"Its not the RC the md5sums are different, they have to push out the iso to the mirrors so it ends up in the release.ubuntu.org before its officially 'released' and them people in here pretend its not the 'release' because its not 'announced'"13:43
MoheroDASPRiD: yes :P13:43
erUSUL!upgrade | brutalis13:43
ubottubrutalis: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading13:43
Pici!party13:43
ubottuPlease remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties13:43
BoltClockoh, remote terminal? then i dunno13:43
joaopintodt3k, that is an image expected to be final, when announced, but not before that13:44
Moheronumbering is flawed...13:44
Moheronext year, the order will be wrong, due to it bein 9.04 and not 09.0413:44
Mohero:)13:44
goliath_i have a server do you know "SMEserver" ?13:44
DASPRiDMohero, heh13:44
DASPRiD10.04... sounds nice tho13:44
joaopintoType3Singularity, we do not pretende nothing, it is not the final, until it's announced, it may become the final, but is NOT13:45
skeeter_101Can someone please assist me with an issue with the adjustment of mplayer in browser?13:45
BoltClockjoaopinto: is this something like incase a last minute update or whatever gets dropped in there?13:45
joaopintoBoltClock, yes, that's is why is a bad practice to assume something is released before it is announced, also because of mirroring concerns13:46
mrintegritywhats the limmit on number of users in an irc channel? is it as much as the server has ram to deal with it or what?13:46
Type3SingularityBoltClock: I think mostly its because it needs to be pushed out to mirrors, but there is a chance of some major bug that means it must be pulled13:46
bobbob1016We should make the "Ubuntu 9.04 is not out yet, please don't ask when it will be" from the header on the channel be a timed pop-up, so we get less questions later on13:47
joaopintomrintegrity, it depends on the irc server software you use13:47
Mal3kowow Ubuntu 9.04 is out..found the iso13:47
erUSUL!ot > mrintegrity13:47
ubottumrintegrity, please see my private message13:47
Type3SingularityThe last 3 or so releases, the release.ubuntu.org was the final13:47
Boohbahmrintegrity: ask in #freenode13:47
ganimowhere can i find the ISO?13:47
lianimatorwill ubuntu 9.04 support wacom tablet's expresskeys out the box?13:47
erUSULMal3ko: no it's not out13:47
unr3a1hey all13:47
bromidebobbob1016 - you'd think that'd work, wouldn't you?13:47
bobbob1016bromide, Well, a bit more than the text no one seems to read.13:47
Mal3koerUSUL: ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/13:47
BoltClockjoaopinto: hmm yeah, like some projects like phpBB that keep a release as RC unless they can finally safely promote it to gold?13:48
Hosein-mecdate of desktop link is for 20-Apr-2009 ! is this final ?13:48
erUSUL!itsout13:48
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about itsout13:48
joaopintoBoltClock, right13:48
BoltClockType3Singularity: hmm13:48
Boohbahganimo: http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/13:48
md456 hi there, is it possible to run a program as a User xyz from /etc/rc.local script - taks runs as root by default, I need something like a sudo but otherway round (userdo doesnt exist !?)13:48
Mal3koerUSUL: so i am right :)13:48
joaopintoHosein-mec, there is no final release yet, only when announced13:48
Moherowhile $NOTRELEASED; do; writechan< "it isn't out yet..."; sleep 5; done13:48
Mohero*ahem*13:48
BoohbahHosein-mec: only when the release manager makes it official13:48
erUSUL!party | Mal3ko Boohbah13:48
ubottuMal3ko Boohbah: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties13:48
erUSULMal3ko: no you are not13:48
bromidebobbob1016 - yeah, I get the funny feeling they wouldn't read it if it's spammed to the channel every now and then either13:48
sipiormd456: check out the "-u" switch for sudo.13:49
forceserUSUL, :O13:49
BoohbaherUSUL: i'll join the party in a few hours with my eeepc :)13:49
forcesya salio ubuntu 9.04?13:49
erUSUL!es | forces13:49
ubottuforces: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.13:49
unr3a1will 9.04 be available in the update repository?13:49
forcespero tu hablas español13:49
erUSULforces: not here13:50
TromboneNot now13:50
forces:O13:50
bobbob1016bromide, Well we'd be able to say "See the pop-up that you've been ignoring?"13:50
forceshere only english13:50
forceserUSUL, is it out jet?13:50
aprilharejoin #ubuntu+113:50
Boohbahforces: no, ubottu hablas español13:50
erUSULforces: exactly13:50
md456sipior - thx13:50
Moheroforces: while $NOTRELEASED; do; writechan< "it isn't out yet..."; sleep 5; done13:50
erUSULforces: no it is not out join #ubuntu-release-party13:50
BoltClockMohero: lOL13:50
forces* No puede entrar #ubuntu-release-party (Estás baneado).13:50
forcesu.u13:50
BoltClocks/lOL/LOL13:50
MoheroBoltClock: thought someone might like that ... :)13:51
erUSULforces: o.0!13:51
unr3a1erUSUL: if its not out, how is it on the releases pages?13:51
Gubadoes anybody can tell me when 9.04 can be downloaded13:51
bromidebobbob1016 - yeah, good point I guess13:51
marko_dOMG this is worse than the que when the ipod went out :)13:51
erUSULunr3a1: ask in  #ubuntu-release-party13:51
Moheroplease... someone with access change the topic.... :'(13:51
* erUSUL This is a support channel13:51
unr3a1also, how can I make the install list of all installed applications?13:51
PiciMohero: Its not out.13:51
erUSUL!clone | unr3a113:51
ubottuunr3a1: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate13:51
Pici!isitout13:52
ubottuJaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+113:52
MoheroPici: I know... look up in chan at my comments...13:52
Boohbahunr3a1: sudo dpkg -l |grep ii13:52
PiciMohero: No one reads the topic anyway.13:52
MoheroI've not asked if it's out, i'm sensible, I look at the website and will only assume it is out when the site changes to "get it now"13:52
dassoukiis there a way i can disable bluetooth from running on startup13:53
Boohbahunr3a1: sudo dpkg -l |grep ii |awk {'print $2'}13:53
Mr_KaizerI'm trying to save a new X Configuration file, but the system won't let me, says I don't have permission. What to do?13:53
PiciMal3ko: Its not out until the release managers announce it. Please don't post links.13:53
dragoncheeseis there anyway to make the install .iso bootable on a usb flash drive?13:53
BoohbahMr_Kaizer: sudo13:53
oipatAny downsides with the 64bit version? (like flash, drivers, etc)13:54
bobbob1016dragoncheese, Are you running ubuntu already or no?13:54
sipiordassouki: sure. head to /etc/rc2.d/. move the file "S25bluetooth" to "K25bluetooth".13:54
dragoncheeseyes i'm runnding ubuntu13:54
TromboneUbuntu 9.04 is aviable now !13:54
erUSULoipat: flash works for me tm. the icedtea java ff plugin works on some sites (not in facebook :()13:54
bazhang!usb | dragoncheese13:54
* sipior bangs is head against his desk.13:54
ubottudragoncheese: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent13:54
bobbob1016dragoncheese, 8.10?  If so, System->Administration->Create USB Startup13:54
Mr_KaizerBoohbah: Err, I'm trying to to it from the NVIDIA control panel :/13:54
bromideunetbootin = win13:54
dassoukisipior: thanks :D13:55
sipiordassouki: yep, no trouble.13:55
erUSULsipior: dassouki it is better to use update-rc.d or bum13:55
chooishHi everyone! Is there any way of using a systemwide equalizer under Ubuntu?13:55
Trombonehttp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/13:55
lianimatordoes anyone know a video editor that can fast-forward some parts of the video?13:55
sipiorerUSUL: i don't particularly care for that.13:55
bobbob1016bromide, Isn't unetbootin for windows?  He's running Ubuntu.13:55
sipiorerUSUL: matter of taste, i suppose.13:55
marko_dlianimator: try kdenlive13:55
tsimpsonTrombone: don't post links until it's announced13:56
tsimpson!jaunty13:56
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party13:56
marko_dit is the k3b of video editors :)13:56
bromidebobbob1016 - it's multiplatform I think13:56
bobbob1016I can confirm, Jaunty is out13:56
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cheleojaunty out13:56
bromidebobbob1016 - yup, just checked, it's also for Linux13:56
lianimatorjaunty out?? yay!13:56
erUSUL!itisout | bobbob101613:56
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about itisout13:56
Trombonetsimpson: It's for make a troll :p13:56
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erUSUL!iitout | bobbob101613:56
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about iitout13:56
erUSUL!isitout | bobbob101613:57
ubottubobbob1016: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be.  Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+113:57
bobbob1016erUSUL, Did you check ubuntu.com?13:57
alienkid10!party13:57
ubottuPlease remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties13:57
p-fstill not sure why I should care about a new release13:57
beutlinit is out13:57
unr3a1erUSUL, now, when I do that clone thing, will it cause problems in 9.04?  or would it be best to upgrade to 9.04 through the update repository13:57
erUSULbobbob1016: did you check the topic of this channel?13:57
erUSULunr3a1: it is up to you some prefer clean reinstalls and some others (lazy ones XD like me) prefer to upgrade13:58
okanasikits out guys have fun www.ubuntu.com13:58
bobbob1016erUSUL, Yes, that says it isn't out yet.  However it said that before the site updated.  No need to get hostile.13:58
camiloycyes, is out... check main page of ubuntu13:58
pawel_hot to minimize or change workspace when playing fullscreen game? ctrl+alt+arrows does not work.13:58
Type3SingularityI think when its on the main page, its out, no matter what weird rule your are using to decide that13:59
unr3a1erUSUL, if I do upgrade, all my installed applications will still work, correct?13:59
kbinghami have an upgrade button :) yay13:59
lianimatormarko_d: I have kdenlive now. which effect is the fast-forward effect?13:59
erUSULunr3a1: nothing is perfect but i upgraded many times and have no major problems13:59
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forcesOUT!!14:00
p-fout?14:00
dt3kany torrent yet?14:00
dt3kyes14:00
forcesubuntu 9.04 is avaible for download14:00
* sipior locks phasers on forces.14:00
dt3kwww.ubuntu.com14:00
FloodBot2dt3k: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.14:00
Tmicheers14:00
p-fand?14:00
pawel_yuhuu!!!14:00
unr3a1erUSUL, sweet.  will I have to do something special to my repositories to get 9.04 to populate in the update manager, or will it just populate by default?14:00
alex2not yet ?14:00
BoltClocki would say what i was about to say but im not keen on being banned for backseat modding so ill be quiet and just head over to the other chan...14:01
erUSULunr3a1: shold appear a button on the update manager14:01
pawel_is it available in all languages instantly?14:01
defrysksomeone better adjust the topic , its out14:01
Linux_Time"It is out."14:01
unr3a1erUSUL, sweet.  thanks...14:01
Linux_Timehm14:01
bobbob1016bromide, We do need a pop-up, saying "Check ubuntu.com first, we have already"14:01
forcesuse torrent14:02
prateekChanging the topic, sending the email to ubuntu-announce, changing the homepage, ... I wish all this happened simultaneously in a consistent way when the new release is made.14:02
forcescause im using mirror and go slowly14:02
forces¬.¬14:02
unr3a1erUSUL, I see the button in update manager14:02
bromidebobbob1016 - you'd sorta hope people would check there first14:02
alex2ITS OUT14:03
BoltClockis this channel now open to jaunty support?14:03
BoltClockor do i still need to go to +1?14:03
sipiorBoltClock: i think you're fine :-)14:03
molven\o/14:03
* pawel_ is updating Ubuntu14:03
Instihttp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent14:03
linnyanyone got a 9.04 1386 desktop torrent14:03
KisamaI have a cron that is set to: MAILTO=me@me 0 0  * * * apt-get update && apt-get -y upgrade14:03
Kisamahowever, I got an error in the log it emailed me14:04
BoltClocksipior: alright. in that case, is it fine to shrink my existing ubuntu partition to make space for a jaunty install on my hard disk instead of upgrading right away?14:04
vixeywhy does ubuntu.com make it soo hard to find the torrent? http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt14:04
vixeyit's not even on there14:04
Kisamacan someone help me?14:04
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vixeyI think 9.04 is out btw14:04
Instihttp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent14:04
pepperjackvixey: because torrents are evil :).  maybe they like to track number of downloads14:04
sipiorBoltClock: if you want, i suppose. if you're concerned about testing, grab a live cd and verify that everything works, then upgrade.14:04
darren_ok question if i upgrade to ubuntu jaunty will it still use the same drivers i installed for mi wifi adapter?14:05
vixeyI prefer torrents because they resume easily14:05
raddyHello Everybody14:05
BoltClocksipior: i dont think testing with just a live cd is enough anymore. intrepid's live cd was totally ok, but when i upgraded my existing install it borked14:05
BoltClockx.x14:05
rumpelis it out?14:05
BoltClockyep14:05
raddyFor installing without burning the cd, should i choose alternative installl?14:05
pepperjackraddy: that is still an iso you burn to cd it just isnt the livecd14:06
pepperjackraddy: you wanting to put it on a usb or somethine?14:06
fladdwhy is the official version dated 20.04? so the actual final version has been there for already 3 days now on the servers?14:06
tuxFanwhats the jaunty channel?14:06
lizzzzardtuxFan: #ubuntu+114:06
bazhang#ubuntu tuxFan14:06
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BoltClocktuxFan: right here14:07
abrandtwhen I create a desktop launcher what is the switch it adds to run it in a terminal..14:07
sipiorBoltClock: in that case, how would installing to another partition allow you to test the upgrade any more than testing from a live cd?14:07
shaunofladd: if nothing broke in the last couple of days, doesn't make any sense to rebuild it again.  not breaking things right up until the last minute is probably a good sign14:07
pawel_hot to minimize or change workspace when playing fullscreen game? ctrl+alt+arrows does not work.14:07
BoltClocksipior: oh yeah.... :X14:07
fladdokay14:07
vixeyI think it's the jaunty channel here now isnt it?14:07
alex2it is14:07
abrandthrrm14:08
pawel_what's the difference between Jaunty and Intrepid?14:08
scunizipawel_: depends on the game.. you'll need to check with the game folks typicallly14:08
Mohero6 months of development14:08
Moherothe name14:08
sipiorpawel_: spelling?14:08
DASPRiDpawel_, jaunty is younger14:08
Moherolooking for specifics?14:08
DASPRiDsipior, lol :P14:08
abrandtwhen I create a desktop launcher, It gives an option to run in terminal. What is the option it adds to run a program in a terminal14:09
alex2Congratz Jaunty have very nice default theme14:09
BoltClocksipior: if i end up upgrading, i can only either clean install or upgrade to intrepid first right?14:09
scuniziabrandt: maybe "nautilus"14:09
abrandtok14:09
sipiorBoltClock: you're running 8.04 now?14:09
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vixeyFaster boot speed, enhanced application suite and more visual appeal -- give users more reasons than ever to choose Ubuntu14:09
BoltClocksipior: yes14:09
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DASPRiDBoltClock, should be able to upgrade directly to 8.1014:09
DASPRiD*9.0414:09
waanHmm my mirror doesn't appear on the website anymore14:10
BoltClockDASPRiD: with system>admin>update manager?14:10
sipiorBoltClock: you can see what options the update manager gives you.14:10
dragoncheeseif you do a dist-upgrade from the 9.04 RC you get the release right?14:10
DASPRiDBoltClock, yes14:10
BoltClocksipior, DASPRiD: great, ill check it out once im done with this iso download14:10
DASPRiDdragoncheese, no, you simply have it :)14:10
Moherovixey: actually MUCH MUCH faster boot - my jaw dropped!14:10
emptythevoidBoltClock: you also need to make sure your software sources are set to show you 'Normal' updates, and not LTD only14:10
darren_hi could some one please help i have 8.10 how do i upgrade to jaunty thanks in advance14:11
alex2very representative and nice look !!14:11
erUSUL!upgrade > darren_14:11
ubottudarren_, please see my private message14:11
DASPRiDDarkClown, update-manager -d14:11
BoltClockemptythevoid: yes, i have that already set14:11
vixeygreat!14:11
vixeyI hated that about ubuntu it was slow to boott14:11
vixeyI just hope 9.04 *does* boot14:11
SandGorgonanybody upgraded from 8.04 ?14:12
RapachooieTHERE IT IS14:12
Rapachooieyay14:12
pawel_god 1554 files!14:12
Rapachooie9.04 is UP14:12
pawel_*God14:12
Rapachooiewoot woot14:12
JerkyBoysanyone have torrents for the download?14:12
techman224Yes, there are torrents14:12
kulightubuntu.com is so slow now...14:12
bigboyyeah 9.04 is up14:12
Type3SingularityAnyone know of any custom isos that roll Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and server into the one DVD?14:13
techman224But there are not published14:13
ikoniaPlease wait for the announcment14:13
defryskthe insternet tubes are clogged.....14:13
* scunizi will be watching the server performance drop as everyone tries to suck the upgrade files as fast as they can 14:13
Type3Singularityikonia: You mean: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2009-April/000122.html14:13
stefano-palazzoWould anyone know a shell command that quits whenever any key is pressed?14:13
dt3kuse torrent faster anyway14:13
JerkyBoyshttp://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent14:13
jdowniegot one for kubuntu?14:14
techman224JerkyBoys, http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/14:14
pawel_ubuntu.com is not loading xD14:14
techman224All the torrent files are there.14:14
emptythevoidHas a PowerPC release of 9.04 been made that works on the PS3?14:14
dt3k http://kubuntu.org/news/9.04-release14:14
sipiorstefano-palazzo: what exactly are you trying to do?14:14
ikoniaemptythevoid: PPC is community based so expect it to lag14:14
emptythevoidikonia: Thanks. :)14:14
vixeyJerkyBoys http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/14:15
MrKeishiiits OUT14:15
MrKeishiiFinally Out14:15
vixeythe torrents are in there14:15
SandGorgonhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent14:15
MrKeishiiyeah14:15
jdowniethanks14:15
MrKeishiii know14:15
vixeyI wonder why ubuntu.com makes it so hard to find them!14:15
stefano-palazzosipior, i'm writing a script to use in the car, so i want it to do whatever it does (which is gather some data) whenever i bash randomly on the keyboard14:15
MrKeishiiyaaaay14:15
MrKeishiiits finally out thanks ubuntu14:15
ikoniavixey: please stop poasting that URL - it's not out yet14:15
techman224And there's a new version of ubuntu, UNR!14:15
MrKeishiiyea it it14:15
MrKeishiiis14:15
stefano-palazzosipior, because you know, trying to hit some key at speed might be uncomfortable :>14:15
vixeyikonia what14:16
jdownieno torrent for netbooks?14:16
ikoniavixey: never mind, I'm wrong14:16
TromboneUBUNUTU 9.04 IS AVAILABLE NOW !!!14:16
camiloyctechman224, with date of today?14:16
waanCan somebody tell me how to run and attack multiple screen sessions?14:16
waanattach14:16
erUSULTrombone: we now. Read the topic14:16
defryskikonia, even jono bacon announced it on twitter that its out!!14:16
ikoniawaan: screen  -S14:16
sipiorstefano-palazzo: i see the difficulty :-) you can just put a "read" in the script, blocking the script until a character is pressed. you can throw away the read character, since you don't care what it is.14:17
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pepperjackjdownie: i imagine 'ubuntu netbook remix' would turn up a torrent or two14:17
defryskah ikonia announced he is wrong :>14:17
waanikonia: thanks, and I name the sessions with -t right?14:17
Sinchanhey all14:17
techman224Now that Ubuntu 9.04 is out, it should be on the mirrors within the next 24 hours.14:17
stefano-palazzosipior, thanks.. so obvious now :-)14:17
lightpriest_hi14:17
ikoniawaan: -S will name them14:17
forceswhat happen with www.ubuntu.com14:18
forcestoo busy?14:18
waanOk thanks i'll give it a shot14:18
techman224forces, no problems here14:18
xCworks fine14:18
Sinchani cant access ubuntu.com14:18
RyanVanDiemenhi guys, where can I find torrent for 9.04 (apart from ubuntu.com) ?14:18
forceshmm14:18
Sinchanjaunty is already out now ?14:19
xCryanvandiemen: http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/14:19
forceshere cant load ubuntu.com14:19
techman224Every release seams more interesting for the regular user on Mac and Windows.14:19
RyanVanDiementhanks xC14:19
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danbhfive!upgrade14:21
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading14:21
djiezesI'm about to install the new 9.04. Should I go for ext4 or are there stability issues?14:21
glauberanyone here familiar with distcc?14:21
ikoniadjiezes: try it - make up your own mind14:21
danbhfive!notes | djiezes14:21
ikoniaglauber: yes14:21
ubottudjiezes: Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) release notes can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes14:21
Spikius!jaunty14:22
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ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party14:22
bromidedoh, I just updated via apt and half way through Ubuntu decides to give me a dialog telling me I'm due an update14:22
rumpel@ djiezes  ext4 is fast but less secure.... whats more important? performance or stability?14:22
TmiWhen I start a letter to a brittish woman, should I start with "Dear Ms. Name" ?14:22
techman224There were stability issues in the beta.14:22
bromideyeah, that works Tmi14:22
ikoniaTmi: that's offtopic in here14:22
glauberikonia: apt-get'ing it only gives me host i486, and my machine is 58614:22
darren_hi if i upgrade to the new ubuntu will it keep my prefs and skins and also will my old wireless drivers i installed still be the same thanks14:22
Tmioh, was supposed to write in another channel, well, guess i got my answer anyway :D14:22
djiezesrumpel: stabillity, it's for my daily desktop. I'll opt for ext3 then? I see the release notes say it can cause trouble with grub.14:23
ikoniaglauber: I wouldn't worry about that, compilers are rarley arch optimised14:23
craryfanshello14:23
mouse-trapwhy doesn't the ubuntu torrents go up before the mirrors! so irritating14:23
craryfansi'm newer14:23
erUSULdarren_: the driver will have to be reinstalled (unless the new ubuntu works out of the box now)14:23
bigbwoyhey anybody with a link to download 9.04 ubuntu.com is very slow?14:23
bromide9.04 > 8.10 for wireless on my eee14:23
rumpel@ djiezes choose ext3...14:23
djiezesthx for the help ikonia, danbhfive, rumpel14:24
darren_erUSUL, ok thanks the driver was writen for ubuntu 8.10 as a guess do you think it will still work if i reinstall it14:24
glauberikonia: the problem is im cross-compiling from amd64 and should i have a toolchain on the host/helper machine for 486 arch so?14:24
zaagor!list14:24
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network). If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »14:24
ikoniaglauber: you're tool chain will be what ever arch you build it for14:24
iulianpojar1ubuntu 9.04  right now on www.ubuntu.com14:25
erUSULdarren_: dunno... as i said with luck you do not need to use them and now your wifi chip is supported aout of the box14:25
copland-leopardIs ubuntu really windows because I sure do have to restart it a whole heck of alot.14:25
Instihow dangerous is skipping a version when upgrading?14:25
nassratHey anybody here worked on ssh-agent and Gnome Ubuntu and knows why it works like ssh-add </dev/null by default? I would like that in kubuntu14:25
craryfanshello14:25
unr3a1erUSUL, I saw that you said you wait two weeks to upgrade to the newest version... will the upgrade button stay that long in the update manager?14:25
mouse-trapubunt is not microsoft windows14:25
arvind_khadriInsti, you cant do that :D14:25
darren_erUSUL, ok thanks will have to look into it as a use it for packt injection thanks for your time14:25
Dragnslcrcopland-leopard- only time you should need to reboot is for kernel updates14:25
erUSULdarren_: no problem14:25
palmjeInsti: you have to upgrade one version at a time14:25
nassratHey anybody here worked on ssh-agent and Gnome Ubuntu and knows why it works like ssh-add </dev/null by default? I would like that in kubuntu14:25
glauberikonia: should i rename /usr/lib/distcc/i486-linux-gnu-g++-4.3 for it to be recognized as 586 arch on the helper machine ?14:26
docmax_hello, i have a problem with fonts14:26
copland-leopardDragnslcr:  Unfornatly I have the problem of X hardlocking the system up14:26
craryfans我的14:26
erUSULunr3a1: yes; also i use the alternate cd for upgrading14:26
ikoniaglauber: no14:26
docmax_they look strange when smoothing is disabled14:26
ikoniaglauber: that will cause massive problems14:26
docmax_where can i upload the example pic?14:26
Dragnslcrcopland-leopard- ah, yeah, that'll do it. My first guess would be the video drivers. Linux tends to not get a lot of love from the video card manufacturers14:27
glauberikonia: i dont get how will the helper know about the right toolchain/compiler for the target14:27
bobbob1016Do firefox add-ons live in / or /home or /usr?  I'm doing a fresh install of Jaunty, with the same /home, I have a bunch of things left in down-them-all, not sure if they'd survive, just wanted to know if anyone knows.14:27
unr3a1erUSUL, oh... the alternate cd has an upgrade option in the install menu?14:27
melkartthe translations are broken, here is an example: http://i39.tinypic.com/aa9fmw.png14:27
mindnullis ubuntu.com down?14:27
copland-leopardDragnslcr:  I am not new to linux but I thought I give ubuntu a whirl and so far no where as stable as slackware14:27
Dragnslcrmindnull- nope, just slow14:27
docmax_http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7157/screenshot001f.png14:27
whatteyhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/14:27
docmax_look at this14:27
docmax_looks rally ugly14:28
scunizibobbob1016: they are in ~/.mozilla14:28
docmax_how can i correct the fonts?14:28
bobbob1016copland-leopard, Are you restarting everytime it says "you should restart" it's a suggestion, not mandatory, at all.14:28
racecar56yay 9.0414:28
racecar56its here14:28
racecar56:>14:28
ezekialanyone know what time 9.04 is being released?14:28
bromidenow14:28
bromideit's out14:28
racecar56now14:28
Moheroit is...14:28
racecar56its out now14:28
ezekial=dDDDDD14:28
pc!jaunty14:28
ubottuUbuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) is the current release of Ubuntu.  Download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810 - Please use !torrents14:28
unr3a1its out14:28
racecar56=DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd14:28
erUSULunr3a1: it has a command in the cd to do the upgrade using the cd as repo so you save dl time (i dl the cd via torrent)14:28
copland-leopardbobbob1016:  no I restart when I can nolonger drop down into a new tty14:28
euthyfro#omfg14:28
Mohero** JOKE ** anyone know when I can get 9.10 Alpha 1? :P14:29
racecar56how do i upgrade from rc? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?14:29
Sinchanaccessing ubuntu.com is like hell :)14:29
unr3a1erUSUL, I will have to figure out how to do that then... :-D14:29
Dragnslcrracecar56- just a normal update14:29
Lint01how can I setup the route between my wired and wireless network?14:29
MoheroSinchan: so don't do it14:29
Moherobrowse a mirror.14:29
bobbob1016scunizi, Thanks, although for those who don't know, saying ~/ instead of /home/(your-username)/ might be a bit confusing.14:29
* misplacedme waves and whatnot14:29
docmax_http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7157/screenshot001f.png << look at the fonts! how can i correct them?14:29
bromideI just did aptitude full-upgrade14:29
djiezeshm ubottu gives release notes for 8.10? needs a fix.14:29
PiciMohero: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule14:29
Sinchani am not.14:29
kalibthe site isn't working very well.. everybody is downloading the new release...14:29
erUSULracecar56: use the update-manager14:29
kalibwhat's the link??14:29
MoheroPici: HAHAHA14:29
scuniziMohero: #ubuntu+1 for 9.10 :-))14:29
racecar56erUSUL, k14:29
night_timehi, I'm trying to backup my home folder with tar with the help of this famous tutorial: http://bitly.com/qty6o but at some point I get this message and the tar process stops: "gzip: stdout: File too large"14:30
Sinchanmaybe tomorrow i'll try again14:30
GullstadIs #ubuntu+1 redirected here now?14:30
Moherothere was a reason for my **JOKE** :P14:30
mouse-trapuse the bittorrent14:30
Moherojust seams everyone was asking the same thing, thought i'd be different :)14:30
resnoCan anyone recommend a book or online site to learn terminal commands?14:30
mouse-trapI swear - the torrent should come out a week before the mirrors14:30
Moheroresno: "man"14:30
Mohero;)14:30
hbekelcopland-leopard: slackware is a vanilla distribution. ubuntu is heavily branded/modified14:30
bazhang!rute > resno14:30
ubotturesno, please see my private message14:30
unr3a1erUSUL, I am downloading the alternate cd now... :)14:30
mrwesresno: sudo apt-get install abs -- bash scripting book14:30
erUSULunr3a1: ok14:31
pan1nxciao...fug...14:31
scuniziGullstad: if 9.04 is officially out .. then yes.. and ubuntu+1 would then be the help channel for 9.1014:31
unr3a1erUSUL, its downloading faster than the regular iso too.... :-D14:31
Lint01how can I setup the route between my wired and wireless network?14:31
erUSULunr3a1: cheers14:31
docmax_http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6149/screenshot002bly.png << look at the fonts! how can i correct them to look "normal" ??14:32
dronixubuntu 9.04 stable is out14:32
bobbob1016Lint01, What do you mean?  Are they two different routers?  What do you want to do with the link?14:32
praveer_coolhey I observed that http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading page says Upgrading to Ubuntu 8.10 in the title, but the content is correctly set for 9.04, it is a minor typo but is noticeable14:32
bobbob1016dronix, Thanks, but we know14:32
dronixoh lol sorry, just noticed14:32
deeflexdronix, the stable?14:32
praveer_coolthought of letting you know14:32
dronixyes deeflex14:32
deeflexOk14:33
mrwesresno: http://fosswire.com/post/2008/4/ubuntu-cheat-sheet/14:33
Lint01i want to setup multihomed machine with 1 wired and 1 wireless adapter. A wired one uses DHCP, wireless does not.14:33
docmax_hello?14:33
martinkoelewijnHi all. A process mount.ntfs is filling up my cpu (I'm dl-ing Jaunty to a ntfs partition). What is wrong?14:33
alienkid10does dontzap --disable enable ctrl+alt+bksp permanently?14:33
resnothats quite a bit of resources!14:33
mrwesalienkid10: yes14:33
Ddordahow do i make .deb archives?14:33
Ddordathere's any guide?14:33
Gullstadscunizi: Just saw. Didn't know it was out yet :P14:33
praveer_coolI hope i commented in the right channel :)14:34
mrwesalienkid10: unless you do an --enable14:34
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* iqson716 is away: I'm not here right now!14:34
alienkid10ok14:34
JiYuI trie to build a deb package with dpkg-buildpackage, but dpkg-shlibdeps is telling that it cannot find "libdb2.so.2", but it exist. can I disable dpkg-shlibdeps somehow? :)14:34
alienkid10becuase I sometimes need to kill X14:34
GullstadIs the compiz-x.org problem with intelchips fixed?14:34
Asadubuntu site is terribly slow ... and so are upgrades .....14:34
racecar56i need to kill X too14:34
dronixmrwes, oh thats handy14:34
mrwesalienkid10: it adds a line to your xorg.conf14:34
Asadcan I download the .iso to upgrade to 9.04 from 8.10 ?14:34
alienkid10ok thanks14:34
praveer_coolAsad: this happens everytime with a new release, chill out :P14:34
racecar56Asad, no14:35
mrwesI smell blood in the water...14:35
Moheroalienkid10: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ;-)14:35
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racecar56Asad, update-manager14:35
Asadyea .. that's what I am talking about ... update-manager is terribly slow14:35
Asad20 KB / sec .. come on, it will take me hours14:35
Asadanyone has used apt-p2p instead?14:35
pepperjackJiYu: maybe export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/lib14:35
Sinchanbe patient Asad...14:35
Sinchan:)14:35
scuniziAsad: download the torrent of the alternate install.. I understand you can upgrade with that14:35
DASPRiDAsad, you should have done the upgrade 4 days ago, that time i got 3mb/s14:36
Ddordai heard it not so stable14:36
mrwesDdorda: its stable14:36
JPSman!jaunty14:36
ubottuUbuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) is the current release of Ubuntu.  Download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810 - Please use !torrents14:36
raphaDASPRiD: ja wen seh' ich denn hier? :-)14:36
DASPRiDrapha, onoz :x14:36
CydeDo we have any stats on popularity of the 64-bit version versus the 32-bit version?14:36
rapharofl14:36
Type3SingularityHmm there are no torrents for the netbook remix14:36
raphaDASPRiD: are we not on friendly terms anymore? :D14:36
MoheroCyde: you mean other than the Ubuntu shop not even listing x64!!!14:36
DASPRiDrapha, i dont know, i remember your name, thats it :)14:37
MoheroI WANT 64BIT DAMNIT14:37
bobbob1016Asad, Try the torrent for the alternate, you can upgrade with that.14:37
BonezAUI run amd64 on both my dual core toshiba laptop and my amd dual core 64/6000 cpu14:37
CydeWell, you can download the 64 bit one.14:37
MoheroI would never install 32-bit on my 64-bit hardware14:37
CydeMohero: Ditto14:37
BonezAUonly reason im downloading i386 is my parents pc is an Intel P414:37
raphaDASPRiD: c'mon, all the map testing and hanging around on SatGNU ... you disappoint me14:37
Moherohaven't in years14:37
Asadohh ok thanks scunizi and bobbob101614:37
BonezAUand i wanna dual boot it on that14:37
nassratHey anybody here worked on ssh-agent and Gnome Ubuntu and knows why it works like ssh-add </dev/null by default? I would like that in kubuntu14:37
CydeAny computer that was bought new in the past 2 years should use the 64-bit version.14:37
DASPRiDrapha, oh, right14:37
raphaDASPRiD ;)14:37
comairhello all. I am trying to install a sharp mx2600 n printer on my ubuntu system. I downloaded the correct driver and added the printer to ubuntu. When i try to print the printer warms up but prints no page. Can anyone help?14:37
BonezAUit's disappointing the amount of people who will download the 32 bit version when they have 64 bit CPU's14:37
BonezAUthe 64 bit version rocks14:37
BonezAUbeen using it since alpha 414:38
raphaDASPRiD: btw, TremStats finally broke14:38
LjL!ot14:38
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!14:38
DASPRiDrapha, orly?14:38
bromideyou know, I'd hope that if you're using Linux you at least know what's inside your computer14:38
w00keehow to know if my processor is 64 bit14:38
CydeBonezAU: Maybe there should be a warning message during installation: "We detect you have a 64-bit processor, but are installing the 32-bit version of Ubuntu."14:38
bromidebut I guess that's not as true as I'd like to believe14:38
mindnullBonezAU, do they have a 64 bit java plugin yet?14:38
meebo!info XMMS14:38
ubottuPackage XMMS does not exist in jaunty14:38
BonezAUCyde: that is a great idea!14:38
Cydew00kee: What's your processor?14:38
raphaDASPRiD: yeah, didn't do any bughunting though ... I'll just upgrade from your SVN and try again14:38
meebo!info xmmc14:38
darthanubismindnull, yes14:38
ubottuPackage xmmc does not exist in jaunty14:38
pepperjackBonezAU: i dont often need more than 4 gigs of ram for a single process..14:38
meebo!info hardy xmmc14:38
ubottu'xmmc' is not a valid distribution ['dapper', 'gutsy', 'gutsy-backports', 'hardy', 'hardy-backports', 'intrepid', 'intrepid-backports', 'jaunty', 'jaunty-backports', 'kde4-ppa', 'kde4-ppa-intrepid', 'kubuntu-experimental', 'kubuntu-members-kde4', 'medibuntu', 'partner']14:38
w00keepentium D14:39
scunizi!info XMMS214:39
RolieCyde, my torrents ran the 8.10 downloads the past few months with a ratio of 1:2 in favor of 32 bits.14:39
ubottuPackage XMMS2 does not exist in jaunty14:39
w00keedual core14:39
LjLThis channel is for Ubuntu *support*, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general Ubuntu-related discussion, or party in #ubuntu-release-party14:39
JiYupepperjack, unfortunately not14:39
KoolDhey whats special in 64bits version  than 32bits???14:39
BonezAUpepperjack: neither do I... but I don't see the point in running 32 bit version on 64 bit hardware. there is now native 64 bit flash and sun java... what else could one need14:39
CydeRolie: Thanks.  That's some good data.14:39
cllaudyuhi... i need a little help for my webcam14:39
JPSmanwhat would you sugest for us 7.10ers?  8.10 to 9.04?  or just a fresh install?14:39
meeboscunizi lol maybe there is XMMC314:39
CydeJPSman: Fresh install14:39
BonezAUJPSman: fresh install14:39
joaopintoJPSman, fresh install14:39
JPSmandamn14:40
ecceberlin!torrents14:40
BonezAUlol14:40
ubottuJaunty can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).14:40
mrwesJPSman: you have a separate /home ?14:40
JPSman:OD14:40
JPSmanuh, no14:40
Lint01why ubuntu has no upgrade mode?14:40
CydeBack up your data first then.14:40
mrwesJPSman: then if you do fresh, make sure you back it up14:40
Pici!upgrade | Lint0114:40
ubottuLint01: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading14:40
CydeLint01: Ubuntu does, just 7.10 is rather old.14:40
FreshPrinceis today the release if intrepid?14:40
cllaudyuhi... i need a little help for my webcam... i can't make it to work...14:40
lightpriest_Lint01, it does have14:40
PiciFreshPrince: Jaunty. Intrepid+114:40
FreshPrince!release14:40
cllaudyuhi... i need a little help for my webcam... i can't make it to work... ...14:40
ubottuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases14:40
lightpriest_Lint01, you have to enable it14:40
copland-leopardso far I am not getting far at all.....  at this point i might  as well fire up vmware and load xp at least that does not hard lock on me14:40
JPSmandamn damn damn.  Ok, well, I'm off to backup EVERYTHING :OD14:40
FreshPrincePici, ok14:40
Lint01lightpriest_, how?14:40
meeboLint01 sudo apt-get apgrade14:40
raphai wanna set up ubuntu 4.10 somewhere again14:40
lightpriest_!upgrade | Lint0114:40
ubottuLint01: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading14:41
Klau3Happy Ubuntu 9.04 Day!!!!!!!!!!!!!14:41
meeboLint01 sudo apt-get upgrade14:41
cllaudyuhi... i need a little help for my webcam... i can't make it to work... ... can someone help? it is important 4 me...14:41
Shadow121where is the off topic channel?14:41
bjsnidernot if you're using intel graphics14:41
Konamwhere is the 9.04 official torrent?14:41
PiciShadow121: #ubuntu+114:41
shadeslayer!ot14:41
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!14:41
PiciShadow121: ER,.. I mean #ubuntu-offtopic14:41
SandGorgonanybody have link to kubuntu desktop torrent ?14:41
erUSUL!ot | Konam14:41
pepperjack!webcam | cllaudyu may be of some help14:41
ubottuKonam: please see above14:41
ubottucllaudyu may be of some help: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras14:41
* Sinchan starting upgrade... my local repo is allready updated14:41
Sinchan:)14:41
epscylonbdid anyone else update firefox today and have it delete all their add ons ?14:41
Shadow121Thanks Pici14:41
w00keecyde: its a pentium D, can i go for a download of 64 bit??14:41
kulight!9.0414:42
ubottuUbuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) is the current release of Ubuntu.  Download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810 - Please use !torrents14:42
lightpriest_this ubottu bot is pretty smart :P14:42
Cydew00kee: No, I don't think the Pentium D is 64-bit.14:42
g_hey is it a good idea to upgrade to 9.04?14:42
Cydew00kee: Wait, I'm wrong.14:42
Cydew00kee: It is14:42
cllaudyui think i need a little more help than a web page... hmmmm14:42
w00keecyde: how do i find out my pc's specs14:42
shadeslayerg_: pretty good14:42
olujiczI have intel celeron D and it is 64-bit14:42
Cydew00kee: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Pentium_D14:42
joaopintopendium d does already support 64 bits14:42
mrwesg_: I ran the upgrade for the first time and I didn't have any issues14:42
meebow00kee is it a dualcore?14:42
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Cydew00kee: less /proc/cpuinfo14:42
Moheromost PC's sold are 64bit, so why are most os's sold /downloaded 32bit14:43
lightpriest_g_, I'm using it now on my pc and my laptop, it works great14:43
Moheroseems pointless to me14:43
copland-leopardDoes anyone else have serious issues with ubuntu and ATI drivers.  I know ati drivers are buggy but they seem extra buggy on Ubuntu?14:43
jhouseubottu said the current release is 9.04, but apt-get upgrade does not work.  Am I missing something?14:43
kulight!torrent14:43
ubottuTorrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P14:43
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:43
Type3SingularityI vote the next Ubuntu release's name be changed to "It's not out yet", just to confuse the issue14:43
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Daskreech!torrents14:43
ubottuJaunty can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).14:43
orgthingyMohero: 64-apps aint THAT popular yet i guess14:43
Cydejhouse: You need to launch the Update Manager.14:43
Moheroorgthingy: so...14:43
Lint01copland-leopard, ati drivers are unusable now14:43
Cydejhouse: (The GUI one)14:43
resnothe upgrade is going to take 2hrs 48 mins to download 831 mb!14:43
Cydejhouse: That'll tell you a new release is available.14:43
shadeslayerjhouse: apt-get dist-upgrade maybe14:43
meeboppl use /msg ubottu !torrents14:43
Moheroorgthingy: you can run 32bit apps on 64bit systems14:43
Moherowe do all the time.14:43
orgthingyMohero: or probably are pre-compiled binary better than compiling for 64bit14:43
bjsniderguhh. there's too much chatter in here14:43
orgthingyMohero: that'd be stupid :p14:43
pawel__register swap osd2@op.pl14:43
pawel__oh!14:44
orgthingyMohero: I run 64-bit Ubuntu 9.04 with 64-bit apps14:44
jhouseCyde, shadeslayer: "your system is up-to-date"14:44
lightpriest_Mohero, if you don't have more then 4GiB of ram 64bit is quite pointless14:44
orgthingybut, Mohero , it isn't really "stupid" to run 32-bit14:44
Moheroorgthingy: no, we write both 64bit and 32bit software, we build them all on 64bit systems14:44
AvianInfluenzahiya14:44
Cydejhouse: Run it again?14:44
grawitypawel__: Is your password really "swap"? :)14:44
Moherolightpriest_: disagree14:44
meebojhouse what are ya using now?14:44
orgthingyMohero: 64-bit got cons as well, that 32-bit doesn't have14:44
pawel__grawity: yep.14:44
orgthingyso, Mohero, it's users choice never yours xD14:44
jhouseCyde, meebo: using 8.10 and just ran it14:44
resnowow, this place is crazy about the new upgrade14:44
datacrusherjaunty is oficcialy released?14:44
Lint01why I have got no upgrades after release?14:44
SixtyFoldHow do you check users in the terminal on ubuntu since theres no passwd file in /etc/?14:44
orgthingyMohero: it's about compiling FOSS for your 64-bit machine14:44
Lint01datacrusher, see MOTD14:45
bobbob1016datacrusher, Please, check ubuntu.com before asking here14:45
pawel__how to change NickServ password?14:45
CydeArgh, MIT, your slow mirror is making me late to work!14:45
orgthingyMohero: it's about some proprietary software don't have 64-bit binary14:45
w00keeCyde: how do i get to know the version of my ubuntu distro14:45
grawitySixtyFold: There should be an /etc/passwd :/14:45
lightpriest_Mohero, gimme one good reason to use 64bit.. except that memory issue...14:45
copland-leopardLint01:  I experience nothing but pain in  with ATI and Ubuntu and I hate to say it it only been ubuntu that I had so much pain with  All my ati boxes run different versions of linux with out issue ubuntu likes to go kablooey14:45
SixtyFoldhrmm14:45
mib_wfnhs3I'm upgrading to 9.04, and it has hanged on "Fetching file 1146 of 1146"... any ideas?14:45
Moheroand all of which will run on your 64bit OS...14:45
Cydew00kee: lsb_release -a14:45
SixtyFoldill check again but i didnt see it14:45
BoltClock!md514:45
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows14:45
orgthingyMohero: no14:45
* meebo is on GeBuntu :)14:45
grawitypawel__: /msg nickserv set password14:45
Moherothat's why we have apt-get install ia3214:45
orgthingyi have 64-bit, Mohero , i can't run 32-bit DEBs14:45
BoltClockwhere do i find the list of md5sums for jaunty?14:45
SixtyFoldNM14:45
SixtyFoldits there14:45
jhouseapt-get update; apt-get upgrade worked14:45
SixtyFoldthanks, im just retarded and tired14:45
SixtyFold:D14:45
Moheroorgthingy: then you're doing it wrong :)14:45
FloodBot2SixtyFold: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.14:45
LjLBoltClock: in the last link in the topic14:45
SixtyFoldim not flooding either, i talk that fast :P14:46
orgthingyMohero: im not talking about "All-arch" DEBs14:46
SixtyFoldbbl :D14:46
Moheroall-arch is different from 32bit / 64bit :)14:46
orgthingyMohero: and excuse me? I've used debian since 1998 (now ubuntu for repo issues and such) so don't tell me im wrong about DEBs14:46
orgthingyMohero: i know14:46
MoheroI would expeck no-arch to run on my PPC14:46
pawel__how to recover lost password on IRC? I lost password for pawel.14:46
mib_wfnhs3I'm upgrading to 9.04, and it has hanged on "Fetching file 1146 of 1146"... any ideas?14:46
grawitypawel__: Ask in #freenode14:46
w00keeCyde: So then shud i go for a download, and not an upgrade to get the 64 bit.14:46
Picipawel__: Join #freenode and ask14:46
meebocan smb change the topic! so ppl will not ask 100000 times how to upgrade and that you need to have 8.1014:46
MoheroI run google earth packaged as DEB it's 32bit, on my 64bit Ubuntu14:47
pawel__ok.14:47
SixtyFoldpawel, you should just be able to get nickserv to send it to your email address14:47
Moheroso, it can be done if you know how to do it :)14:47
cllaudyui can't find nothing for my ARMEDIA K13A webcam14:47
orgthingyMohero: you need 32-bit LibC and such14:47
Cydew00kee: If you're currently running the 32-bit version, I believe you have to install the 64-bit version fresh.14:47
orgthingyotherwise you'd fail running it14:47
meebocllaudyu you have problems with your web cam14:47
erUSULw00kee: Cyde that's right yes14:47
orgthingyMohero: and I don't see your problem with people's choice on this :P ?14:47
Moheroorgthingy: that's what apt-get is for...14:47
orgthingyMohero: plus, 64-bit got other cons14:47
leohartxwhich advantages does ubuntu dvd version have (over cd version) ?14:47
orgthingyMohero: proprietary software...14:47
djugglera little OT: alright.. so chmod 0777 dirname   chmod -r 0777 dirname will recursively change the permissions down the tree but I only want to be changing directories not files. My inclination is to ls for just directories and pipe it into chmod but there has to be a simplier way. Wassit?14:48
cllaudyumeebo yeah it doesn't work on ubuntu14:48
Cydew00kee: Which, depending on how much of a hassle it is for you to back up everything, you may not want to do.14:48
MoheroI've been on 64bit for.... years, never had a problem14:48
Moheromany many many years14:48
orgthingyMohero: I've been using 64-bit just recently myself14:48
CydeDitto here.  Never had a problem with 64-bit.14:48
orgthingyMohero: yes, it's *your choice*14:48
orgthingybut people don't like the "cons"14:48
meebocllaudyu you will never fix it :) i use 8.04 dunno bout 9.04 maybe they fixed it14:48
Moherorunning 32bit and 64bit apps on my 64bit..14:48
orgthingyother ones, that we havent mentioned, Mohero14:48
cllaudyumeebo i use 8.1014:49
w00keecyde: hmm yeah, i understand dat, but is it worth it to go for the 64 bit14:49
Moheroorgthingy: haven't mentioned for fear of being shot down :)14:49
MoheroI understand choice14:49
scott9876does anyone have jackalope running, I'm upgading now14:49
MoheroI don't understand 32bit OS on 64bit Hardware14:49
orgthingyMohero: good ^_^14:49
Cydew00kee: How much RAM do you have?  Or that you intend on adding to your current machine throughout its lifespan?14:49
panaggioif I'm using #juanty beta. there's no "udpate" for me?14:49
orgthingyMohero: well, 64-bit arch isn't all perfect14:49
Mohero32bit is what calculators use :)14:49
MrKeishiiwhere is the ubuntu 9.04 NBR torrent at?14:49
leohartxwhich advantages does ubuntu dvd version have (over cd version) ?14:49
Cydew00kee: The biggest advantage of 64-bit is that it can address more than 4 GB of RAM.14:49
erUSULdjuggler: do that .... "find folder/ -type d -print0 | xargs -0 sudo chmod 777" but be carefull... when people do this kind of things is usually becouse he is doing something wrong. what are you trying to achieve ?14:49
Mint`!jaunty14:49
ubottuUbuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) is the current release of Ubuntu.  Download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810 - Please use !torrents14:49
Laibschwhy does "date --date='2009-04-23 14:02:23 +7 hours'" not give me 21:02:23?14:49
rskipanaggio: just a small update should be updated already14:50
orgthingylocainex: just get CD version14:50
orgthingyleohartx: *14:50
w00keecyde: i have a 1.5g RAM14:50
Cydew00kee: Although depending on your motherboard's specs, it might only be able to handle 4 GB total anyway (2 slots each that max out at 2 GB).14:50
MoheroI have 8GB ram....14:50
Cydew00kee: I would recommend a RAM upgrade, in that case :-D14:50
shadeslayer:O14:50
leohartxorgthingy : ? what do you mean ?14:50
Moheroin this one, I have 12GB at home14:50
Cydew00kee: RAM is incredibly cheap.  I'm not sure where you are in the world, but here you can upgrade RAM for something like $10 a GB.14:50
orgthingyleohartx: download CD version, it's all what you need14:50
orgthingyand probably want, leohartx14:50
MaT-dgw00kee: yes, it's (a little) faster, it can adress more ram, you push the devs to develop for 64bit (although I have no problems) and u use the full potential of your 64bit cpu14:50
panaggiorski: so will it be available or it's already available and I don't know how to get it?14:50
resnoi gather the servers are under a heavy load, my upgrade has slowed to a crawl14:51
MrKeishiisend me a torrent link for Ubuntu 9.04 NBR14:51
w00keecyde: i will stick with 32 bit for now, after upgrading my pc i will go for the 64bit, thanx for the infos :)14:52
MaT-dgCyde: depends, size is not the only variable of good ram ;)14:52
leohartxorgthingy : i've used cd version for years, and now, i'm wondering about dvd version14:52
MrKeishiisend me a torrent link for Ubuntu 9.04 NBR14:52
fabzor3anyoneknow any good adhoc wireless lan network tools for ubuntu + my atheros wireless device?14:52
CydeMaT-dg: Well, granted, if you have an i7 system and can only use DDR3 RAM, it will be a bit more ..14:52
SixtyFoldIs it normal for you to have a /etc/passwd and /etc/passwd- in ubuntu?14:52
orgthingyleohartx: I'm not sure myself, probably Kubuntu/Ubuntu/Edubuntu/Xubuntu all together? and maybe with extra apps?14:52
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fabzor3it doesnt seem to come up in wireless networks14:52
orgthingycause that's what dvd versions are usually for (i guess)14:52
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MegarainAny one got any idea why empathy lacks sound in ubuntu?14:53
MrKeishiisend me a torrent link for Ubuntu 9.04 NBR14:53
leohartxorgthingy : so, we both are alike, aren't we ? :)14:53
panaggio!torrent14:53
ubottuTorrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P14:53
Pici!torrents > MrKeishii14:53
ubottuMrKeishii, please see my private message14:53
Nikola!torrents > Nikola9414:53
Nikola!torrents > Nikola14:54
ubottuNikola, please see my private message14:54
leohartxorgthingy : i mean our attitude to dvd version14:54
MegarainWhat attitude for DVD version?14:54
Lint01how can I browse windows shares in my local network?14:54
MaT-dgCyde: DDR (1) RAM here is more expensive than DDR2 :P14:54
ChopMonkey!torrent14:54
ubottuTorrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P14:54
copland-leopardyeah ddr is obsolete so no it more expensive14:54
jhouseThe update manager gui does not detect that 9.04 is released.  apt-get dist-upgrade also does nothing.  Help :(14:54
lightpriest_Lint01, try "Places > Connect to server"14:54
ChopMonkey!torrents14:55
ubottuJaunty can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your archieecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).14:55
CydeMaT-dg: Same here.  But why would you need DDR1 RAM?  That system is a junker :-D14:55
SixtyFoldyou can buy it used cheap though14:55
Pici!offtopic14:55
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!14:55
SixtyFoldjust fine a computer store that sells used ram14:55
unixdawgwhy is ubuntu+1 locked14:55
SixtyFoldfind14:55
WistfulGeekjhouse : try update-manager -d14:55
Lint01lightpriest_, i don't use Gnome14:55
leohartxMegarain: it's nothing, btw, have you ever used ubuntu dvd version ?14:55
haggisbasherukPS3 Jaunty ?14:55
lightpriest_Lint01, ohh... ;p14:55
MegarainNope. Always ran with the CD.14:55
Cyde11 minutes left in my download, then straight to The Pirate Bay and Mininova.  Mwahahaha14:55
MrKeishiii'm looking for the torrent version of netbookremix 9.0414:55
Spikiusif i download CD ISO, can i burn it to dvd+rw and will it work?14:55
MegarainAlso, any one know how to get the sound notifications working in empathy?14:56
CydeSpikius: As long as you burn it as an image, sure.14:56
jhouseWistfulGeek: Thanks, that works.14:56
SpikiusCyde are you TOTALY sure?14:56
Spikiusi somehow thing i should convert it into something :D14:56
meebo!source14:56
ubottuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html14:56
CydeSpikius:  Ohhh, you said CD to DVD+RW ?14:56
CydeSpikius: I missed that.14:56
leohartxis anybody here know where to get md5 code of ubuntu 9.04 dvd version ?14:56
CydeSpikius: Umm ... is it really so hard just to burn it to a CD?14:57
Spikiusi dont have CD right now :D14:57
CydeGo borrow one from a neighbor.  Surely that'll be less hassle than trying to burn it to a DVD.14:57
bercikHello14:57
Anarkistyou can burn a cd image on a dvd14:57
Anarkisteasy14:57
lightpriest_Spikius, you could use a usb disk14:57
mint3hi14:57
bromideif you have a Windows machine I know ImgBurn can burn CD ISOs to DVDs properly14:58
bercikI have got off-topic question. Laptop video cards are different to desktop? Could You send me official nvidia site with laptop cards?14:58
Spikiususb is prety slow..14:58
bromidedunno about Linux though14:58
MegarainOkay, I'm going to ask the empathy instant messaging question one more time, then I'm off to work on some writing. Any one know how to get sound working?14:58
Spikiusbromide thanks :)14:58
MortuisI wanted to start over with wine, so I removed it via APT and then deleted ~/.wine  but when I click on "Applications" on the desktop I still see a folder for Wine on the bottom.  Anyone know how I remove that folder?14:58
mint3i was already on the beta version of jaunty. i think its finally out. how to fully upgrade to it14:58
ikoniabercik: if you know it's offtopic, please don't ask14:58
ikonia!offtopic > bercik14:58
ubottubercik, please see my private message14:58
Lint01mint3, you already are14:58
berciki dont know where to ask14:58
lightpriest_Spikius, it might be slower then a DVD but it isn't "slow"14:58
pawel__how to start udate manager?14:58
shadeslayerMegarain: #telepathy if there are any problems ;)14:59
mint3Lint01,  all i done is updated14:59
BoltClockpawel__: system>administration>update manager14:59
lightpriest_Spikius, i mean, it isn't that slow ;p14:59
bromidedepends all upon the USB stick you're using14:59
Sinchanjust type update-manager -d14:59
dthmnkor apt-get upgrade then apt-get update14:59
mint3so thats it then, the version i am on is the final one14:59
MaT-dgCyde: my old desktop (almost 5 years) still has DDR... bought the mobo at the time where DDR2 was still very new and 3 - 4 times more expensive14:59
MegarainI'll bug them again. Last time I was there they were kinda blaming the distro.14:59
JimmymaniacHi. I see nothing on the topic so i ask. Is there a very recent update that breaks internet conectivity in both hardy and intrepid? first yesterday in a friend's hardy and now today in my intrepid, nothing resolves, but yesterday a windows virtual machine on hardy and today this windows install both get internet allright. Ideas?14:59
dthmnkmint3, as long as update manager is not showing you any more updates, yes14:59
CydeMaT-dg: Time to get a new system :-D14:59
Lint01mint3, if you installed all updates, you're already on release version14:59
mint3dthmnk,  yeah it shows me nothing14:59
mint3ok cool14:59
dthmnkyeah you're full updated then14:59
mint3no big difference hehe15:00
dthmnkfully*15:00
MaT-dgCyde: still runs wel on XP.. ;)15:00
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CydeMaT-dg: Well, maybe it runs XP.  I'm sure it doesn't run it well. Nothing does :-P15:00
mint3i really like jaunty. so stable.15:00
MortuisAnyone know how to remove items from the "Applications" dropdown?15:01
mint3is there a way to tell which o.s version ur using15:01
shane2peruwhere can I get help printing via command line with lp??15:01
mint3like "ver" on windows sort of thing.15:01
Pici!version | mint315:01
ubottumint3: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »15:01
shane2peru!lp15:01
ubottuLaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/15:01
shane2peru!lpr15:01
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about lpr15:01
SandGorgonMortuis: right at the bottom should be "Add/Remove"15:01
MaxxTaDeeRHi ) how can help me to install an tar.gz application15:02
Jimmymaniacshane2peru: man lpr?15:02
mint3yep says no lsb modules available. release 9,04 codename jaunty15:02
xukunhow can I mount my dvd-rom for my kvm guest windows pc?15:02
mint3cool stuff15:02
hwildehi I have two monitors with two xscreens using nvidia-config.  when I only have mouse and kb activity in the right monitor, both of them dim and go to sleep.  only activity in the left monitor is recognized to wake it up.  how can I fix this please?15:02
CydeSandGorgon: Umm, that actually uninstalls software.15:02
mint3!lp15:02
ubottuLaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/15:02
ikoniamint3: untar it and read the INSTALL and/or README file15:02
CydeSandGorgon: Not sure that's what Mortuis is asking for.15:02
shane2peruwhen I print via lp it seems as though the paper comes out as letter paper size instead of a4, when I set the option media=a4 it doesn't help, using a HP 1022n laserjet15:02
Lint01MaxxTaDeeR, open it in fileroller and peruse README inside15:02
Jimmymaniacanybody knows of something like what i described? cause and more importantly, fixes?15:02
hwildeMortuis, right click on the top of the menu,   edit menu15:02
mint3ikonia, i dont have anythin to untar ?15:02
shane2peruJimmymaniac: I have been over the man page many times.15:02
ikoniamint3: sorry - not your15:02
Mortuishwilde: Thanks15:02
MaxxTaDeeRyes15:02
hwildeshane2peru, man lpr15:02
CydeHow many KDE users here?15:02
* mint3 pokes ikonia 15:02
ikoniaMaxxTaDeeR: untar it and read the README/INSTALL file15:02
mint3Cyde,  Gnome is better15:02
Cydemint3: Feh :-P15:03
CydeI run KDE on top of Ubuntu.15:03
shane2peruhwilde: man lpr has less info then man lp. :)15:03
MaxxTaDeeR<ikonia>I did it15:03
MaT-dgCyde: ah wel, I just keep it to run some older games, play music with the x-fi soundcard and 7.1 boxes attached (splendid sound) and my nokia software to send concatenated sms15:03
ikoniaMaxxTaDeeR: ok, great15:03
mint3well, kde "might" look better15:03
bromideCDE or bust! wait...15:03
mint3but i dont like the idea of those unstable plasmoids etc15:03
Jimmymaniacshane2peru: and what do you wanna do?15:03
Daniel_Gwhich is better is a matter of opinion, there is no right or wrong answer...15:03
Cydemint3: I don't even use the plasmoids.  I never see my desktop.15:03
FirstSgtif i type users, how can I tell which TTY they are on?15:03
mint3Cyde, then what do you use? Terminal ?15:03
hwildeshane2peru,  examples here:  http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/cgi-bin/manpage?lpr15:03
MaxxTaDeeR<ikonia>Now what i have to do ?15:04
SandGorgonCyde: i just use the picture frame plasmoid15:04
hwildeFirstSgt,   who -u15:04
ikoniaMaxxTaDeeR: read the README/INSTALL files15:04
Cydemint3: No, I use KDE.  I never see the desktop because I always have windows covering it.15:04
MaxxTaDeeR<ikonia>I read it15:04
mint3oh right, Cyde15:04
shane2peruJimmymaniac: when I print a page it comes out as though it is on letter paper, not a4 paper, I even set the media size to a4, or pagesize, and nothing seems to help.15:04
ikoniaMaxxTaDeeR: ok, follow the instructions15:04
hwilde!kde > Cyde15:04
ubottuCyde, please see my private message15:04
MaxxTaDeeR<ikonia>Just run15:04
MaxxTaDeeR $ ./autogen.sh15:04
MaxxTaDeeR $ make15:04
mint3!kde > mint315:04
ubottumint3, please see my private message15:04
CydeI don't really use ~/Desktop for storing any files.  I just use the File Manager.15:04
akravetshello15:04
ikoniaMaxxTaDeeR: follow the instructions15:04
Raylz1.6k users in here :)15:05
Cydehwilde: Um, I'm aware of what KDE is :-/15:05
MaxxTaDeeR<ikonia>how  can i  run that15:05
hwildeCyde, help in #kubuntu15:05
Cydehwilde: I'm not asking for help ..15:05
shane2peruhwilde: is lpr better/updated rather than lp?15:05
CydeI was just wondering who uses KDE?15:05
MaxxTaDeeRi just extract the tar.gz15:05
ikoniaMaxxTaDeeR: exactly as it says in the document15:05
sebsebsebRaylz: yeah I kind of expected more, but nope15:05
mint3leave Cyde  alone guys15:05
bonzihow do I upgrade from 8.04 to 9.0415:05
bonzi?15:05
ikoniaMaxxTaDeeR: what do you want to build15:05
pvandewyngaerdeCyde: i use kde15:05
ikonia!upgrade > bonzi15:05
ubottubonzi, please see my private message15:05
sebsebsebbonzi: you got to get 8.10 first15:05
Cydebonzi: Upgrade to 8.10 first.15:05
mint3!jaunty > bonzi15:05
PiciCyde: Please do not take polls in this channel.15:05
akravetsI downloaded Ubuntu 9.04 alternative cd but when I boot from it I don't have option to try Ubuntu without installing....15:05
CydeIt wasn't a poll either :-(15:06
erUSULbonzi: 8.04 --> 8.10 --> 9.04 two step process15:06
hwildebonzi, system- > admin -> update manager15:06
bonzioh k thx15:06
pvandewyngaerdeakravets: alternate is non graphical15:06
joaopintoakravets, that option is only available o the desktop cd15:06
mint3Cyde, i did use kde before.15:06
incorrectI am going to wipe my laptop reinstall using ext415:06
pepperjackbonzi: itll take about 16hrs if you try to do it today :)15:06
akravetsah damn15:06
Lint01how can I troubleshoot absense of sound?15:06
mint3Cyde, however for the past few months, i been on Gnome15:06
djugglerI'm using an application that errors with "Extension 'gd' was not found. This extension is used for image manipulation" I searched the repositories but didn't find it. Obviously this app is doing captcha or something. Where do I get GD for ubuntu desktop (I've installed mysql,apache,php and those are working).15:06
hwilde!alsa > Lint0115:06
ubottuLint01, please see my private message15:06
bonzithx for the info :)15:06
MaxxTaDeeR<ikonia>please lets start alt first... i have an file.tar.gz15:06
akravetsok thanks15:06
pvandewyngaerdeLint01: try speaker-test15:06
MaxxTaDeeR<ikonia>How can i install that15:06
Sinchanif use aptitude, is it okay to upgrade to jaunty ?15:06
Raylzbonzi: save your home directory and do a new install15:06
Raylzits less painfull15:06
Sinchanlike this : sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade && sudo aptitude purge ??15:07
hwildeMaxxTaDeeR, tar -xzvf <filena,me>15:07
shane2peruhwilde: which is better to use?  lp or lpr, and what is the difference?15:07
ikoniaMaxxTaDeeR: untar the file - in that file there are normally two files called INSTALL and README - read the files and follow the instructions/commands in the file15:07
hwildeshane2peru, doesn't matter just use what works15:07
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sebsebsebhow do I upgrade 8.04 to 8.10 on another computer, when it refuses  to download some packages and gives me 404 not found messages?  I guess I can always change the sources myself and do it the old way, if nessarey15:07
bonziI think backing up home and clean install is better15:07
akravetsdoes anybody know if Ubuntu 9.04 works on Lenovo T61? I currently have 8.04 on T61, tried 8.10 but the system hangs after 5 min of use. Wondering if this was fixed in 9.04?15:07
bromidepepperjack - bovine female of significant religious importance, 16 hours?15:07
shane2peruhwilde: ok, let me give lpr a few runs and see what it does.  thanks for the link.15:07
Sinchanno one use aptitude command ?15:08
bromideSinchan - I did15:08
ikoniasebsebseb: if the repos are unavailable its probably because they are getting hit for the 9.04 update15:08
hwildeshane2peru, lpr always worked for me.  you just have to point it at the printer15:08
PiciSinchan: Don't use that way to upgrade, please use the reccomended methods.15:08
sebsebsebikonia: yeah that's what I thought,  but   the  8.04  repos are seperate?15:08
joaopintosebsebseb, you are most likely getting an overloaded or incomplete mirror, you should not do it manually, there are specific upgrade conditions only covered by the update manager15:08
ikoniasebsebseb: no, they are on the same servers15:08
thorinI cant get to mount my ipodtouch with itunnel, and am pretty sure that i'm messing up with something, as i'm a complete newb with linux15:08
Sinchani see..15:08
Sinchani'll try first then15:09
Sinchan:)15:09
sebsebsebjoaopinto: such as?15:09
shane2peruhwilde: right, I don't have a problem hitting the printer, it isn't printing out correctly, so must be 1.  a command problem (user error) or 2.  driver error, which I doubt.15:09
magentarwhat's a good program to play shoutcast streams?15:09
mint3winamp ?15:09
Spikiushmz thats weird.. no peers from my country currently downloading..15:09
thorinin the tutorial i'm following they gave this.. The binary is pretty simple:15:09
thorinitunnel [port]15:09
magentarwell i was hoping for opensource software15:09
pepperjackmagentar: beep media player imo15:09
joaopintosebsebseb, I don't know the details, i just know there are distro upgrade conditions covered by the update manager, which are not part of the regular package upgrades process15:09
scunizimagentar: vlc will do it.. so will streamtuner15:09
thorinwhat should i do with that? the terminal says that doesnt exist..15:09
hwildemagentar, totem plays them fine15:10
magentarpepperjack, thx. i tried songbird but the api seems unstable15:10
MaxxTaDeeR<ikonia> i wrote in terminal tar xzfv file.tar.gz15:10
dergringoHmm Where has the working ATI driver gone in Jaunty? Proprietary driver has been working since dapper for me. Now it's broken. Envy shows no compatible driver.15:10
dubnoakravets:  I run 8.10 on several T61's -- seems to work fine15:10
ChopMonkeywhy is there no torrent file for netbook remix on http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ ?15:10
ikoniaMaxxTaDeeR: what is it you want to install ?15:10
mint3dergringo, use the backport drivers, did it for me15:10
joaopintodergringo, the proprietrary ati driver dropped support for some older models15:10
MaxxTaDeeR<ikonia>and there is somethig doing in terminal15:10
ikoniaMaxxTaDeeR: what do you want to install (what software package)15:10
MaxxTaDeeR<ikonia>some program15:11
ikoniaMaxxTaDeeR: called what ?15:11
MaxxTaDeeR<ikonia>wifiscanner15:11
JeruvyChopMonkey: UNR releases are not on the same schedule as ubuntu releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR for info about this15:11
ikoniaMaxxTaDeeR: ok - so that's nothing to do with ubuntu I suggest you ask in one of your "hack" channels that you're in15:11
MaxxTaDeeR<ikonia>i just want to learn how i can install programs with tar.gz15:12
Sniper606So is jaunty supported in here now?15:12
WistfulGeekask Google15:12
joaopinto!compiling | MaxxTaDeeR15:12
ubottuMaxxTaDeeR: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)15:12
ikoniaMaxxTaDeeR: ok - read the documents in the tar, and as it's a "hacking" program ask in one of the "hacking" channels you're in15:13
joaopintoSniper606, yes15:13
leohartxis anyone here know about advantages which ubuntu dvd version have over cd version ? btw, where can i get MD5SUMS for ubuntu 9.04 dvd version ?15:13
zetheroohow do you upgrade to the latest ALSA?15:13
joaopintoleohartx, extra packages ?15:13
Sniper606well im running the rc and i have receive no notification of updates15:13
pepperjackleohartx: if you have poor internet connection the dvd should have more packages maybe15:13
mint3i still never seen anything load / boot faster than MAC s15:14
leohartxjoaopinto : is that all ?15:14
mint3os*15:14
MadpilotSniper606, System->Admin->Update Manager to run it manually, from the RC that'll get you to final release state15:14
leohartxpepperjack: have you ever installed dvd version ?15:14
leohartxis anyone here know about advantages which ubuntu dvd version have over cd version ? btw, where can i get MD5SUMS for ubuntu 9.04 dvd version ?15:14
pepperjackleohartx: not on ubuntu but they have to do something with the extra space :) im assuming more deb files15:15
Jeruvyleohartx: the dvd only offers extra translations over the cd.  see the ubuntu download page15:15
CydeOK, I've uploaded Jaunty to The Pirate Bay and Mininova: http://www.mininova.org/tor/2518746 http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/486568315:15
joaopintoleohartx, yes, it is15:15
dergringojoaopinto, weil it's an ATI 1950XTX and I bought it in 2007. I can't imagine that they have thrown out 2 years old cards :)15:15
CydeAnd I am off to work guys.15:15
blackadrhello folks15:15
MaxxTaDeeR<ikonia> i open that file by archivetool??15:16
blackadranyone here know how well fglrx is supported in 9.10?15:16
ikoniaMaxxTaDeeR: you said you'd already opened it15:16
ikoniaMaxxTaDeeR: thats what the tar did15:16
DShepherdhey all :-) my fellow ubunteros15:16
gypsymaurowhy I can't find vlc in jaunty?15:16
niekieHello DShepherd.15:16
shane2peruhwilde: is ps already formated for the printer?  Therefore I can just use the -l option?  lpr -PhpLaser -l file.ps15:16
ikoniaMaxxTaDeeR: you also lied to me and said you'd read the INSTALL and README file from within the tar file - which I now know you did not as you don't know how to open it15:16
sebsebsebgypsymauro: sudo apt-get install vlc15:16
melkartwhat can i do to make ubuntu do something about the broken translations? ubuntu just shipped with broken translations15:16
frostburnblackadr, 9.10 hasn't been developed yet, packages haven't been decided15:16
bram_hello all. I have a question (great surprise!). I was wondering if I can the UNR images burnt to a USB stick, and try it out on my macbook pro. Yesterday night I tried writing the image using dd, but no luck (did not show up in bootable devices). I also tried formatting the USB stick with fat32 (and MBR), then using dd to write the image, but no luck either. Does anyone have any pointers?15:16
DShepherdniekie, how was jaunty been for you so far?15:16
leohartxJeruvy : i saw, but i'm wondering does extra translation take spaces of 3,6 gb ?15:16
blackadrer15:16
MaxxTaDeeR<ikonia>Ok i open that archive with archive tool a read documentation15:17
blackadr9.04 even :)15:17
niekieDShepherd: I've not installed Jaunty yet.15:17
nick_h[litage]i just updated my firefox3 package, and it seems i need to restart firefox. any suggestions for how to do that without losing my firefox session state (ie: windows and tabs)?15:17
MaxxTaDeeR<ikonia>now ?15:17
DShepherdniekie, same here. well carry on! :-)15:17
ikoniaMaxxTaDeeR: then why are you asking how to open it15:17
hwildeshane2peru, if you have printer driver that support postscript yes15:17
zetheroo how do you upgrade to the latest ALSA?15:17
Picileohartx: The dvd includes portions of the universe repositories as well, so you could isntall more software without having to download it from the repos.15:17
shane2peruhwilde: ahh, that may be my problem, thanks!15:17
d34thMy 8.10 box isnt working i tried restarting but after they released 9.04 nothing i do gets my box to work15:17
MaxxTaDeeR<ikonia>tell me please how can i run some comands that is in INSTALL file ??15:18
leohartxPici : have you ever tried it ?15:18
gypsymaurosebsebseb: I'm searching it in synaptic and it doesn't find it15:18
virtxhi15:18
ikoniaMaxxTaDeeR: you type them how they say, and I suggest you take this to one of your "hacking" channels for support15:18
sebsebsebgypsymauro: maybe it's in another repo15:18
sebsebsebgypsymauro: can you install via command line?15:18
sebsebsebgypsymauro: sudo apt-get install vlc15:18
virtxwhat pkg contains asm/page.h ? linu-kernel-headers doesnt15:18
frostburnnick_h[litage], firefox should prompt you to exit firefox and save tabs?  if not get tab mix plus15:18
virtxlinux*15:18
firsmThe jaunty cd fails to start with "Buffer I/O error on device sr0", any ideas?15:19
sebsebseb!find vlc15:19
ubottuFound: libvlc-dev, libvlc2, libvlccore-dev, libvlccore0, mozilla-plugin-vlc (and 10 others)15:19
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sebsebseb!info vlc15:19
ubottuvlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.9.9a-2ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 1652 kB, installed size 3660 kB15:19
frostburnfirsm, your cd was burned too quickly and your drive cannot read it15:19
sebsebsebgypsymauro: ok it's in universe according to that, you got universe enabled?15:19
grimd34thyo i cant get my ubuntu box working after they released update my box wont start up15:19
blackadranyone where who was using fglrx with 8.10 and upgraded to 9.04?  Does fglrx work? or is there a version that works?15:19
mint3blackadr, it works am on jaunty15:19
firsmfrostburn: mmh okay, I'll try cdrecord speed=1 then, thanks15:19
sebsebsebgrimd34th: you upgraded to 9.04, and now can't get on Ubuntu?15:19
virtxerror: asm/page.h: No such file or directory15:20
grimd34thno, its still 8.1015:20
sebsebsebgrimd34th: oh you can't upgrade you mean?15:20
zagabar1How do I install a program that comes with a Makefile?15:20
grimd34thi cant turn the thing on15:20
ikoniazagabar1: what program do you want15:20
pvandewyngaerdeis firefox 3.0.9 in ubuntu 9.04 ?15:20
mint3!makefile15:20
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about makefile15:20
sebsebsebgrimd34th: your computer won't go on at all?15:20
mint3!find make15:20
blackadrmint3: danke schon! looks like it's upgraden tyme15:20
ubottuFound: automake, automake1.4, automake1.7, automake1.9, automake1.9-doc (and 56 others)15:20
grimd34thyea15:20
Hetorcan anyone help me with sound problem?15:20
blackadrbbl15:20
mint3blackadr, bitte15:20
bram_anyone? .... unr + macbook pro? :)15:20
Type3Singularityzagabar1: If its just a makefile, type 'make' then 'make install', ./configure might bee needed if it has a ./configure file15:21
sebsebsebpvandewyngaerde: 3.0.9  does not exist,  you either meant  Firefox 3.0  or   Firefox 2.0.915:21
mint3!fglrx15:21
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto15:21
grimd34thso i got on a diff pc sshed to a server then irc just so i cam get some support15:21
sebsebsebpvandewyngaerde: Firefox 3.0 is in Ibex15:21
asdf_how do i not get the new notifications and instead keep the old ones when i update?15:21
asdf_ie libnotify?15:21
sebsebsebpvandewyngaerde: uh in jaunty15:21
govatenthey guys15:21
zagabar1ikonia: http://www.sirlab.de/linux/download_vocoder.html      the JACK-enabled verison15:21
MaxxTaDeeR<ikonia>Ooooohhh ,, you  do not understand me...15:21
govatenti saw the new ubuntu is out15:21
mint3indeed govatent , today being the day.15:21
sebsebsebgovatent: yep and the download servers will be packed15:21
govatentis there a torrent for it yet?15:21
nick_h[litage]frostburn: i just clicked File > Quit in Firefox, then started Firefox. none of the previous state has returned. i guess i'll use Tab Mix Plus...15:21
danbhfiveasdf_: try installing notifications-daemon    let me know if that works15:21
mint3!jaunty > govatent15:22
ubottugovatent, please see my private message15:22
lifipvandewyngaerde, yea its 3.0.9 in jaunty15:22
asdf_danbhfive, i havnt upgraded, im scared15:22
pvandewyngaerdesebsebseb: i meant Firefox 3  version   3.0.915:22
grimd34thi havent upgraded and my box wont start /cry15:22
* sebsebseb Firefox 3.1 soon :)15:22
mint3yep its firefox 3.0.9 on jaunty15:22
lvlefisto!torrent > govatent15:22
ubottugovatent, please see my private message15:22
sebsebsebpvandewyngaerde: yeah the number thing  my bad etc.   anyway Firefox 3.1 soon :)15:22
nativeangelsjoin #wine15:22
nativeangelscan anyone here help me with wine15:23
DASPRiDnativeangels, just beer, sorry15:23
ikonianativeangels: the people in #wine-hq are a good bet for wine specific help15:23
ugliefrogim just hoping after it finishes upgrade it doesnt freeze up....i tried one of the daily releases last week and kept freezing up15:23
nativeangelsok15:23
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alex1JJ is awsome !15:23
virtxhow can solve error: asm/page.h: No such file or directory15:24
ikoniavirtx: install the missing headers15:24
DASPRiD(beer = beer emulates everything restless)15:24
virtxikonia, i've installed linux-kernel-headers, but nothing15:24
grimd34thso noone knows how to solve my problem15:24
ikoniavirtx: looks like a libc header, or a gcc include15:24
nativeangelsall i wanted to know was why the pointer dosnt move onto the application opened with wine15:24
aorCtrl+Alt+Backspace no longer works?15:24
darkhamsolved network-mamager problems?15:24
v_taai,,,15:25
DASPRiDaor, you have to re-enable it15:25
DASPRiDshould be describes in the changelog15:25
a931bwhi all15:25
racecar56hi15:25
fitelpaterI disable allways network-manager and install wicd Oo15:25
a931bwpm me that one who can help with Turnng on antialiasing in Wine15:25
b00unceris there a problem with the latest (downloaded today) updates to 9.04 RC (i.e. which should become 9.04)? After upgrading my keyboard and mouse won't work after X starts, they stop responding as if they were plugged off...any help?15:25
mint3aor,  no it doesnt but you can make it work optionally if you wish.15:25
niekieAnyone get Jaunty working on their EeePC yet? :)15:25
a931bwpm me that one who can help with Turnng on antialiasing in Wine15:25
aorIs there a way of restart X on the base install?15:25
zer0c00lhi, i am  downloading ubuntu 8.04  from ubuntu website, is it patched with all updates released so far15:25
darphhi, i can't see language pacl 'divehi' in language support. up until 8.10 it was listed15:25
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niekiezer0c00l: 8.04? I hope you're getting 9.04 ;)15:26
ikoniaa931bw: please don't repeat your question as often, leave it 10 - 15 minutes so that more people can see it15:26
govatenthow did you guys download 9.04?15:26
virtxikonia, i've installed linux-libc-dev, but  nothing always15:26
zer0c00lniekie, its 8.04 lts15:26
mint3zer0c00l, no, you will need to update them. why not try 9,0415:26
niekiezer0c00l: Though, well, 8.04 might me a good choice too, if you want LTS then.15:26
ikoniavirtx: it may be looking in the wrong place, check the configure script15:26
mint3!jaunty | govatent15:26
niekies/me/be/15:26
ubottugovatent: Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) is the current release of Ubuntu.  Download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810 - Please use !torrents15:26
govatent!torrents15:26
ubottuJaunty can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your archieecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).15:26
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virtxikonia, there isn't nothing page.h in the system15:27
niekieLTS' are nice, but I usually prefer the latest and greatest myself :)15:27
ikoniavirtx: gcc headers then15:27
mint3yeah gcc headers15:27
virtxikonia, the name of package?15:27
vixeyjaunty totally crashed vmware :/15:27
zer0c00lmint3, niekie do we have any releases (even unofficial ) that is patched with updates released so far15:27
ikoniavirtx: no idea witout looking15:27
shane2peruhwilde: if the printer doesn't support ps then I can still print via lpr?15:27
vixeyis it a sign that it will also crash on my computer?15:27
KoolD!torrents15:28
ubottuJaunty can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your archieecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).15:28
mint3zer0c00l, not that i know of.15:28
Xintruderhi15:28
XintruderGrep kk *.php is not searching inside the text files for the 'kk' charcters15:28
Xintruderwhat am i doing wrong?15:28
Xintruderi have a group of php files15:28
Xintruderi want to search for the kk characters in them15:29
zer0c00lany one here knows where could i download fully patched version of ubuntu?15:29
ikoniazer0c00l: from ubuntu.com15:29
darphhi, i can't see language pack 'divehi' in language support. up until 8.10 it was listed.15:29
ikoniazer0c00l: get the latest release of the version you want and it will be up to date as of that point release.15:29
KoolDis it possible to upgrade 64bits hassle free  if i'm currently running 32bits15:30
zer0c00likonia, ok15:30
Xintruderanyone?15:30
Xintruder:15:30
vixeyis there a list of hardware that 9.04 is known to boot on?15:30
b00uncerah I'll just try and solve it myself..maybe reinstalling the X-related packages helps15:30
hateballKoolD: You need to reinstall. If you keep /home on a separate partition it's a fairly trivial trask15:30
virtxikonia, there isn't gcc headers, just libc6-dev, but i've this15:30
anom1zer0c00l: are you trying to, say, download an older but LTS version?  or you just want the latest version?15:30
fitelpater /j #launchpad15:30
fitelpaterups15:30
zer0c00lanom1, LTS15:31
KoolDhateball: so i backup and reinstall??15:31
sv_osusr1I am looking for non-memory intensive picture viewer in ubuntu15:31
niekiefitelpater: Heh. I always do that :\15:31
zer0c00lanom1, I want LTS with all patches released so far15:31
hateballKoolD: Pretty much15:31
mrweshateball: you can reinstall without having /home on a separate partition -- since Hardy15:31
pepperjacksv_osusr1: gqview, feh15:31
hateballmrwes: did not know that :)15:31
racecar56_ack restarting just to restart X is a PAIN15:31
shivamUbuntu 8.10 cannot detect my bison web cam. Please help15:31
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sv_osusr1pepperjack: thx15:31
ikoniavirtx: there is a gcc headers / dev package15:32
zer0c00li guess we could do it with reconstructor15:32
mrweshateball: nor did I :)15:32
racecar56_i _HATE_ this new no ctrl-alt-backspace feature15:32
Pici!dontzap | racecar56_15:32
ubotturacecar56_: To re-enable the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace combination that restarts your X server, you can install the "dontzap" package and use the command « sudo dontzap --disable »15:32
virtxikonia, i cant find it15:32
mrweshateball: and of course you would format the partition15:32
anom1zer0c00l: you can't install the original 8.04 and update from there?15:32
racecar56_it dosent work15:32
mrweswould not*15:32
racecar56_Pici, i tried that15:32
sandralafehello15:32
racecar56_Pici, it dosent work15:32
zer0c00lanom1, its for mass deployment some 50 computers, it would be nice if its updated and it will save bandwidth15:33
Qtpaxais there any chance of using 2 different mouses in the same computer?15:33
sandralafeim searching for the ubuntu jaunty jackelope room15:33
jeiworthuhm did they just close the ubuntu+1 and kick everybody over here? *fg*15:33
vixeyQtpaxa yeah15:33
anom1zer0c00l: ah. silly me. can't help you there, i'm n00b in this.15:33
racecar56Pici, spoke too soon15:33
racecar56Pici, xD15:33
vixeyQtpaxa I did that once15:33
sandralafebut i cant seem to find it anymore15:33
racecar56Pici, it works now15:33
Piciracecar56: I figured as soon as you left.15:33
zer0c00lanom1, no problem :)15:33
DanielVhi, perhaps anybody can help me? I have downloaded and burned the 9.04 desktop CD. I do not want to do a fresh install but just upgrade all my computers. How to do that?15:33
ksbalajiis there any other latest LTS than 8.04?15:33
racecar56Pici, lol15:33
vixeynot on ubuntu though don' tknow how with ubuntu15:33
bram_hey guys, is there a channel dedicated to the netbook release of ubuntu?15:33
Piciksbalaji: no15:33
Qtpaxavixey: did they worked individually?15:33
vixeyQtpaxa yeah I used it for 3D drawing15:34
jeiworthksbalaji: LTS release are every 2  years, next is 10.0415:34
mint3sandralafe, dont think it exist no more. i.e today jaunty is officially out. hence supported in here.15:34
sandralafedoes somebody know the name of the chatroom for ubuntu 9.04?15:34
Qtpaxavixey: where did u get that?15:34
n8tuserDanielV -> have you not learned yet, upgrading can cause you to loose hair?  :P  do a fresh install instead15:34
Picisandralafe: This one.15:34
Madpilotsandralafe, this one15:34
mint3used to be #ubuntu+1 i think, sandralafe .15:34
vixeyQtpaxa I wrote it based on the USB API15:34
niekieDanielV: You do not need to download 9.04 to upgrade to it. However, now that you have already done that, you can just insert the CD into your Ubuntu system and a message should pop up.15:34
sandralafeok ill try15:34
frostburnis there an easy way to display mem usage for a process in human readable format kb/mb?15:34
Picimint3: Its released now, so its #ubuntu15:34
shivamUbuntu 8.10 is not detecting bison web cam. Is there any solution. Please help!!15:34
ubuntuphiledoes ubuntu DVD contain VLC media player?15:34
darphanyone?15:34
Qtpaxavixey: but u don't know how to make that on ubuntu, do u?15:34
sandralafedoesnt exist ubuntu+115:34
JMFTheVCIso ubuntu+1 and ubuntu channels are now the same?15:35
mint3Pici,  i know that. i was telling the chap that its supported here now.15:35
racecar56yeah15:35
vixeyno15:35
mint3sandralafe,  read what i said. i said it existed uptil today or yesterday.15:35
racecar56ubuntu+1 redirects here15:35
darphi can't see language pack 'divehi' in language support. up until 8.10 it was listed.15:35
sandralafeanyway i cant watch hbo movies neither on sm player nor on vlc15:35
mint3sandralafe,  if you need help with jaunty , ask HERE.15:35
sandralafeok15:35
n8tuserfrostburn -> try using sed after you feed it from free ?15:35
JMFTheVCIracecar56: this is going to be a very busy channel!15:35
racecar56try doing /join #ubuntu+1 and it says "#ubuntu+1 #ubuntu :Forwarding to another channel"15:35
J-_!webcam | shivam15:35
jbroome#ubuntu+1 is closed until karmic devel starts15:35
ubottushivam: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras15:35
racecar56JMFTheVCI, yeah15:35
Shadow121What is the recommended Directory to install software compiled from source?15:36
DanielVNiekie: yes, then a message appears that the CD contains packages. It is then also added to the software sources. But then: the notification appears that there are updates. It contains the new distribution release message. When I choose to upgrade it starts downloading instead of using the cd!15:36
sandralafei installed: ubuntu restricted extras, smplayer, vlc, me-tv, tunapie, medibuntu keyring15:36
firsmOk, I re-burned the ubuntu jaunty cd at the lowest possible speed, but now all I get is a black screen after the splash screen. anyone else has that problem?15:36
danbhfiveShadow121: use checkinstall15:36
ksbalajin8tuser, I have been upgrading steadily from gutsy. Till 8.04 no problem at all.15:36
JMFTheVCIIs there a list of ubuntu-sub channels for particular areas of support? Something that can be in the announcement message?15:36
n8tuserShadow121 -> /usr/local/bin15:36
racecar56does ubuntu 9.04 like the hp pavilion dv9000's bultin webcam?15:36
wrice_Shadow121: /usr/local/bin15:36
n8tuserksbalaji -> you are one of the lucky few15:36
djiezesI see Amarok 1.4.x isn't in the default repositories (9.04). Am I right or am I missing something? +What's the best way to install it?15:36
hbekelShadow121: usually the ./configure --prefix defaults to /usr/local15:36
racecar56i dont really care if it dosent, as i dont use webcams15:36
pepperjackShadow121: depends.  if you just want to make install i often place it in like /home/$USER/local otherwise it gets sloppy trying to track down stuff that was manually installed15:36
frostburnracecar56, yes and no, it's pretty hard to get it working, haven't tried with 9.04 though... and my laptop died15:36
mint3n8tuser,  jaunty install is smooth, same for me.15:37
racecar56frostburn, k15:37
Shadow121Thanks guys15:37
racecar56frostburn, i think it worked for me, but its been a while15:37
epscylonbis it out yet ?15:37
MadpilotJMFTheVCI, ppl here will usually point specialty channels out as required. There's a mostly-complete list in the ubuntu wiki15:37
n8tusermint3 we will see, lets wait for a few weeks and see how it goes15:37
racecar56frostburn, O_O it works15:37
simmerzam I better off doing a clean install of Jaunty, or upgrading from Intrepid?15:37
JMFTheVCImadpilot: Ok, thanks.15:37
epscylonbupgrade from warty, thats what i am doing15:37
frostburnracecar56, make sure it never overheats, my vid card melted =(15:38
oshua86_hey guys, if I got ubuntu i know it comes with gnome as default, how can I switch back and forth between gnome and kde?15:38
jbroomeepscylonb: going from warty to jaunty?15:38
WhitorWhy isn't the torrent available on the bit torrent section of the Ubuntu main site ?15:38
firsmsimmerz: probably upgrade, jaunty cd doesn't even boot for me.15:38
n8tusersimmerz -> my suggestion is fresh install15:38
mint3n8tuser, i have been using it since the alpha version was out and honestly can say had no hang ups or whatsoever so far15:38
racecar56frostburn, my vid card acts weird15:38
joaopintooshua86_, you can install the kubuntu-desktop package for kde15:38
pepperjackoshua86_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop then just choose one at login screen15:38
racecar56frostburn, mine is 2 years old15:38
mint3oshua86_,  you can always download kde.15:38
jbroomesimmerz: i've done both, and have had no issues with an upgrade15:38
thalias09I want to congratulate the Ubuntu devs for this release.15:38
n8tusermint3 -> you did a fresh install, not an upgrade15:38
oshua86_pepperjack, great let me try15:38
mint3!kde > oshua86_15:38
ubottuoshua86_, please see my private message15:38
WhitorWhere is the torrent for 9.04 ?15:38
Pici!torrents > Whitor15:38
ubottuWhitor, please see my private message15:38
frostburnracecar56, yeah mine makes the screen flicker, and it eventually corrupted the vid memory, there's artifacts in the BIOS =|15:38
copland-leopardI finally found a media player that works15:38
racecar56on homepage15:38
mint3n8tuser,  i did an upgrade, from intrepid, about a month ago.15:38
thalias09Thank you for your hard work to give us Ubuntu Jaunty.15:38
racecar56frostburn, k15:39
Ghoti|AFKHappy release day everyone! :)15:39
Jimmymaniacsimmerz: personally i had zero problems when jumping from hardy to intrepid, so i plan on doing the same for jaunty, as soon as the dust cloud from the mobs on the repos clears out :P15:39
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thurstonHello, I am using an acer TravelMate 6292 laptop. Should I install the Desktop Edition of Jaunty or the Netbook Remix?15:39
mint3Ghoti,  to you too mate.15:39
copland-leopardBoxee Failed,  Mplayer Fail, VLC Epic fail ,  Xine FTW15:39
n8tusermint3 really? there was not a upgrade path to it about a mont ago.. so not sure what you did15:39
racecar56frostburn, mine acts weird as in it dosent seem to work with 3D15:39
rjuneWhat apt-get command will simply list all packages that are available for update? I've tried apt-get update -u, but that still blocks on do  it or not15:39
norenGhoti: nothing released as of yet15:39
mint3n8tuser, i upgraded to the alpha version.15:39
djiezes!amarok15:40
ubottuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.8 (1.4.3 for Dapper LTS). Packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok15:40
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racecar56frostburn, sometimes while returning from standby it gets a gray screen15:40
racecar56frostburn, but it goes away15:40
Pici!upgrade | rjune Please use the steps outlined here to upgrade15:40
ubotturjune Please use the steps outlined here to upgrade: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading15:40
raphahmmm gotta try and see if hibernation will finally work on the laptop with 9.0415:40
bensteso able to access launchpad?15:40
frostburnracecar56, yeah, i'm not buying HP ever again, or a laptop that requires a heavy vid card, netbooks all the way15:40
Ghotinoren: Really? I thought today was the day! It's even up on ubuntu.com.  I'm confused now.15:40
bensteafter updates to stable Nvida drivers crashed !!15:41
Picibenste: You're not the first person to report problems.15:41
screamsayonaradoes anyone know how to make 4th gen 8gb ipods to work in intrepid15:41
DiscipulusI'm having a problem with Sound-Juicer15:41
benstePici thx15:41
Rockjanyone else upgrading to jaunty atm? I fired up the default package manager in tray and used the dist-upgrade button. However, it's still running on fetching file 1514 of 151415:41
rjunePici, Not useful, I don't want to upgrade, I want to list the packages available for upgrade and I'm missing the proper option15:41
raphaGhoti: 9.04 *is* out15:41
Discipulusit is ripping at an incredibly low rate15:41
Rockjand there is really no load on my computer15:41
Matr|Xim haveing probelm with sql server 515:41
Rockjshould I press cancel and retry? o_O15:41
benstePici don you know something caused nvidia kernel module to crash from RC to stable?15:41
racecar56frostburn, i automatically got this, for free, its because they 'stole' my old laptop which died due to the keyboard being broken15:41
stone1343_hey, when's the alpha for karmic gonna be available? (relax, I'm just kidding)15:41
norenGhoti: i checed an hour agp, mau be it out15:41
Picirjune: You mean from packages that are available to upgrade from intrepid to Jaunty?15:42
racecar56frostburn, they refused to fix it, so God knows where it is now15:42
frostburnracecar56, also make sure to close the lid in the center, don't close it on one side, the hinges will break... it's in laptop heaven15:42
racecar56my 3D dosen't work, i have the nvidia-180 driver but it isn't working15:42
racecar56frostburn, speaking of break, on the top right edge of the screen is broken :o15:42
norenracecar56: get nvidia-settings also15:42
aspoor_can we fix it so I do not have to hit F11 when returning to my non-dynamic web browser?15:42
racecar56noren, nvidia-settings is already the newest version.15:43
acr0nymhello, quick question, I installed some new kernels (.deb) and now I want to remove them. I can't see them in synaptic package manager though15:43
rjunePici, No. I mean I have 8.04 installed, I have 7 packages available for update,  I want to just list them out.15:43
Flannelrjune: sudo apt-get --simulate dist-upgrade15:43
Flannelrjune: That'll simulate an upgrade, during which they'll be listed.15:43
GhotiFlannel: wouldn't it be just upgrade; not dist-upgrade if he just wants the latest packages for his release?15:44
bensteDid someone get Nvidia 180 driver working?15:44
pepperjackacr0nym: do they show up in a dpkg -l?  you can use dpkg to remove them15:44
unr3a1erUSUL, i just want to make sure before I go forward with the upgrade.  if I upgrade from the alternative cd, will it reset any of my settings or remove any files or folders I have created?15:44
racecar56no15:44
racecar56not me15:44
Rockjrjune: if you want to dist-upgrade to latest release, you need to make sure synaptic picks up normal releases15:44
Rockjdefault it is configured to only warn you about LTS releases15:44
rjuneRockj, I don't want to do that.15:44
Rockjoh, ok15:44
racecar56does 9.04 hate nvidia gefore go 7600?15:44
racecar56o.o15:44
rjuneI want to list what packages are availalbe to update in the current distribution15:45
FlannelGhoti: upgrade may not catch all of them, dist-upgrade will.15:45
bensteacecar56 mee too :-)15:45
Flannelrjune: Yes, the previous command will do that.15:45
raphaanybody running 9.04 on a ThinkPad T61 yet?15:45
Ghotibenste: I have the 180 drivers working, though Firefox needs to be toggled in and out of kioks mode on occasion15:45
GhotiFlannel: ah; good to know. thanks.15:45
racecar56gosh i wish i would have stayed with intrepid :'(15:45
acr0nympepperjack, yep they do :) thanks, I still have much to learn15:45
Picirjune: Normally just doing apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade will list them before it prompts you to continue15:45
unr3a1does anyone else know?15:45
rjuneFlannel, yes, I caught that, thank you for listening to what I said and not what you wanted  to hear15:45
racecar56should i reinstall?15:45
bensteeacecar56, ghoti 7600go worked during alpha beta and RC but crashed with stable updates ;-)15:45
crossedf8woot 9.0415:45
rjunePici, is for script, I just want to list without blocking.15:45
unr3a1if I choose to upgrade rather than clean install, will the install effect any files or folders that I have created?15:45
ellarwhats the preferred metalink client for ubuntu? any program with gui?15:46
unr3a1or apps that I have installed?15:46
racecar56benste, i do have rc....15:46
Picirjune: Ah. Okay, then Flannel's command will be good.15:46
bensteracecar, didn't you update today?15:46
Jeruvyracecar56: why not get release?  quit playing with beta.15:46
racecar56not beta... rc15:46
Rockjinteressting, the dist-upgrade util bugs here.15:46
Rockjit's stuck in some weird loop15:46
pepperjackrjune: might use the -s simulate/dryrun switch for apt-get and direct it to a file :)15:46
Rockjatleast after what strace can tell me15:46
racecar56a distribution is software, all i did was sudo apt-get dist-upgrade15:46
maxagazstill no torrent to download jaunty ?15:46
djugglerI've added a share in /etc/samba/smb.conf with path=/var/www  guest ok=yes read only=no create mask=0777 Conceptually I should be able to use winscp on my xp box to download files to the www.15:47
rjune /me facepalms15:47
unr3a1does anyone know?15:47
raphaoh great ... desktop effects disabled by default for my laptop :-/15:47
racecar56Jeruvy, when i upgraded i upgraded to rc but dosen't it update you to stable when you dist-upgrade?15:47
ellarmaxagaz, http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/15:47
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maxagaz!torrent15:47
ubottuTorrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P15:47
Ghotidjuggler: if you're using winSCP, why use SMB? Why not just use SCP?15:47
djugglerregardless of if I use the xp box to grab files from the outside world or if I use gFTP on the ubuntu box itself, any directory created through ftp gets 075515:47
Aperculumis there a bittorrent mirror for 9.04?15:47
yarriHej, I am new to IRC, can you tell me how to list channels on this server and suggest a good guide to IRC15:47
Pici!torrents > Aperculum15:48
ubottuAperculum, please see my private message15:48
ellarAperculum, scroll down15:48
jurismWhere can I get the name of my primary network interface? I am on Ubuntu 8.04 on a virtual server (Virtuozzo)15:48
AsadAnother ubuntu mirror ... http://94.23.5.37/ubuntu/15:48
frostburnjurism, ifconfig15:48
yarriand what strings like !p2p are doing?15:48
Jeruvyracecar56: then what "exactly" are you using.  Please take the time to provide some meaningful info, and we'll be more than willing to help you.15:48
Ghotijurism: on Virtuosse servers, it's usually venet0:015:48
ilovebrowniesI'm planning on doing a clean install of Jaunty, and I want to try ext4. Should I use ext4 on all my partitions?15:48
unr3a1I guess I will find out on my own....15:48
racecar56Jeruvy, i upgraded from intrepid to rc, and i dist-upgraded today15:48
nassratHey anybody here worked on ssh-agent and Gnome Ubuntu and knows why it works like ssh-add </dev/null by default? I would like that in kubuntu15:49
_Jill_eh... flash player doesn't work on youtube15:49
sebsebsebilovebrownies: sure why not15:49
bensteJeruvy I'm having the same problem with nvidia propriative driver like racecar5615:49
Jeruvyracecar56: that isn't a problem..is it?15:49
simNIXdjuggler, for samba having guest greate with rwx sound a risk ...15:49
djugglerso subsequent files to the new directory fail to get written. How do I get the newly created directory from ftp to default to 0777?15:49
sebsebsebilovebrownies: ,but if you got important data, I would recommend backing it up some where else to, because there are a few issues with Ext4 still15:49
racecar56Jeruvy, no15:49
racecar56Jeruvy, 3D dosen't work15:49
Aperculumexcellent, thanks15:49
djugglersimNIX: yes if this server were accessible to the world.15:49
doggyslobberDoes anyone have a quick and dirty way to rename the images in a directory to FILENAME001 ... 002 etc?15:49
djugglerIt's accessible only to me and that was a troubleshooting move.15:49
racecar56Jeruvy, and last night i was fighting to get my card working15:49
Jeruvyracecar56: again, some meaningful info.  I have 3D on 4 machines (and counting) working great.15:49
racecar56Jeruvy, but it's either horrible display or no 3D15:50
jurismGhoti: thank You! and thanks to frostburn :)15:50
racecar56Jeruvy, and it claims no screens were found15:50
ilovebrowniessebsebseb: Thanks! I think I'll wait a while longer then.15:50
sriramomanwhat does ubuntu alternate cd mean?15:50
Jeruvyracecar56: so do you boot to the desktop or shell?15:50
sebsebsebilovebrownies: well 9.04 is maybe a little pointless with Ext315:50
ruhaan_sriramoman: its a text nly cd15:51
racecar56Jeruvy, desktop15:51
ruhaan_no gui15:51
DiscipulusSound-juicer is having problems extracting CDs. My CD drive is capable of ripping at 15x, and indeed has done so multiple times, but today it's ripping at 2.5x and it is freezing about halfway through, the application isn't freezing, but the rip is halting progress about halfway through15:51
racecar56Jeruvy, my /home is on a seprate partition so if i should reinstall intrepid on top it's all ok15:51
pepperjacksriramoman: its the classic install cd no live distro text install.15:51
Aperculumis there a reason for not having a torrent for netbook remix?15:51
n2diy1700 users!15:51
the7thmagushey, when I run GNOME, my CPU Usage according to System Monitor/top/htop is 100%. but the sum of CPU time of all running processes is only like 30%15:51
sebsebsebn2diy: nearly  169615:51
crankharderhow can I open a PDF for editing?15:51
Jeruvyracecar56: reinstalling is a pointless exercise unless you've corrupted files.  Did you corrupt your install?15:51
AsadIf anybody in europe needs a fast desktop 32-bit iso, use this mirror here: http://94.23.5.37/ubuntu/ (by www.linuxprimetime.com ... )15:52
djugglerso eliminating samba, and xp... if I use an ftp client on the ubuntu box itself (in this case I'm using gFTP) and I pull down a directory from some external server to /var/www/ the directories get created with 0755 permissions and the ftp program reports that it doesn't have rights to put files in that newly created directory.15:52
racecar56Jeruvy, i don't know15:52
Ghotidjuggler: man umask15:52
dethstarshould've known better than to update on the "release day"... it's slow as molasses15:52
the7thmagushey, when I run GNOME, my CPU Usage according to System Monitor/top/htop is 100%. but the sum of CPU time of all running processes is only like 30%15:52
sriramomanruhaan_, pepperjack the desktop version image cd's for jaunty in releases.ubuntu.com seems to be dated 20-Apr-2009 15:29. is it the final cd or release candidate?15:52
wrice_Aperculum: Afaik, netbook remix for Jaunty hasn't yet been released.15:52
racecar56Jeruvy, if i install the drive from the nvidia site xorg fusses about no screens15:52
racecar56Jeruvy, 180.5115:52
ruhaan_sriramoman: the RC15:53
mint3can anyone help me get an rss reader for jaunty ?15:53
racecar56Jeruvy, back on 9.04a3 it worked like magic15:53
Aperculumwrice_: it is not? o.O15:53
racecar56mint3, liferea, getdeb.net15:53
mint3like the one that ticks at the top of your desktop etc.15:53
AperculumI see15:53
djugglerGhoti: perfect. thanks15:53
sriramomanthen could someone point me to the torrent for 9.04 final15:53
Aperculumwrice_: I'll wait for it then15:53
Ghotidjuggler: my pleasure15:53
sebsebsebdethstar: heh heh yeah,   I  got a sort of 9.04 anyway install here (as in 8.10 to alpha6 with issues that recomained, to beta, to rc),  and then I clean install on weekend probably15:53
simNIXdjuggler, if I am someuser and ftp files to somewhere the users someuser can read and write even with 755 on folders ... gain is no onne else ...15:53
kliklikSo, after installing Jaunty and having fglrx totaly fail, I'm dumping ati for nvidia. Anyone using gtx295 on amd64?15:53
mint3i like football so i like to know whats happening. Usually on my previous o.s i could have it tick at the top of my screen15:54
sebsebsebdethstar: release day will be packed15:54
the7thmagushey, when I run GNOME, my CPU Usage according to System Monitor/top/htop is 100%. but the sum of CPU time of all running processes is only like 30%15:54
pepperjackkliklik: funny ive been dumping nvidia for ati.. id give it some time15:54
dethstarsebsebseb, yeah... I've got 8 hours remaining15:54
weather153 here15:54
sebsebsebdethstar: 8 hours for the ISO heh15:54
sebsebsebdethstar: the ISO yeah?15:54
dethstarsebsebseb, no.. for the upgrade15:55
weather15yup15:55
Jeruvyracecar56: from desktop go system, ->admin -> system log, then view the Xorg.0.log, look for any errors (EE)  pastebin the results15:55
Aperculumsriramoma http://releases.ubuntu.com/15:55
racecar56Jeruvy, kk15:55
Raylzthe7thmagus: must be the new infinity loop support15:55
chazcoHi... how can I install LAMP + phpmyadmin on 9.04 desktop edition?15:55
sebsebsebdethstar: oh an upgrade, that means you have Ext3.  unless  you do something to it for partial Ext4 suppourt15:55
dethstarsebsebseb, should've tried that apt-p2p15:55
weather15Using osu open source lab15:55
weather15to download15:55
weather159.0415:55
space_cadetwill intrepid auto upgrade to jaunty15:55
space_cadet?15:55
sebsebsebspace_cadet: no15:55
Raylzspace_cadet: no15:55
racecar56space_cadet, no, because thats what windows does15:56
space_cadetupdate-manager -d?15:56
Pici!upgrade | space_cadet15:56
ubottuspace_cadet: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading15:56
dethstarsebsebseb, yeah... I'm sure this will be a re-install at some point.. really just wanted to play with it at work today15:56
mogul218_sup folks now that it has been fixed, i have a gripe i need help with.  Nothing serious but the font on my log in screen is very tiny.  When I installed 9.04 on my laptop I could see the font just fine but on my PC i can't even see what I'm typing.  Is there an easy fix to this that i'm missing?15:56
Raylzspace_cadet: sudo do-release-upgrade15:56
tomekhello all15:56
weather15is it better to download the upgrade for 9.04 or do a fresh install?15:56
Raylzor something like that15:56
JackWat|Lapspace_cadet: you have to go to sfotware sources and tell it to update for normal builds15:56
racecar56Jeruvy, pastebinit15:56
Raylzweather15: defintely15:56
sebsebsebdethstar: well if you had the rc, you would of had something that was very similar to 9.04 final15:56
tanveercan i install world of warcraft on linux/15:56
JackWat|Lapcan you upgrade from 9.04 beta to release?15:56
sebsebsebtanveer: yes15:57
JackWat|Laptanveer: yes15:57
sebsebsebtanveer: in Wine15:57
Pici!final | JackWat|Lap15:57
ubottuJackWat|Lap: If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Jaunty. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.15:57
newDo somebody know the torrents of the new stable jaunty release?15:57
racecar56JackWat|Lap, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade\15:57
racecar56JackWat|Lap, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade15:57
RaylzJackWat|Lap: you automatically get the release15:57
DJones!final | JackWat|Lap15:57
tomeklisten guys, I have a question : my speakers ain't working (despite the fact that they are perfecly well on windows)15:57
shiznebitwhat a packed house15:57
dethstarsebsebseb, sure.. I bet I probably would've15:57
tomekwhat do I do?15:57
JackWat|LapRaylz: lets say i dont have internet access. how do i upgrade from beta to release?15:57
newDo somebody know the torrents of the new stable jaunty release?15:57
Ghoti!offline | JackWat|Lap15:57
ubottuJackWat|Lap: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.alturl.com/ - See also !APTonCD15:57
pronoyi have a serious issue with usplash image...can anyone help me with that ??15:57
hale3rdhi15:58
porter1It's too bad anjuta wasn't fixed15:58
PiciJackWat|Lap: Download the alternate CD elsewhere and use it as a repository to upgrade your computer.15:58
Jeruvynew: the main download page isn't properly updated, but pick a mirror by hand, and you should find the .torrents15:58
racecar56Jeruvy, http://racecar56.pastebin.com/fea3f67e15:58
sriramomancould someone point me to the torrent link for ubuntu 9.04?15:58
space_cadetsynaptic > repos > updates ?15:58
hale3rdi was running the Beta, does ubuntu automatically upgrade to the final version?15:58
newtzhank you15:58
Pici!torrents > sriramoman15:58
ubottusriramoman, please see my private message15:58
JackWat|Lap!APTonCD15:58
RaylzPici: good idea15:58
ubottuAPTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline15:58
Pici!final > hale3rd15:58
ubottuhale3rd, please see my private message15:58
Tetsuoowhere is the alternative installer version gone???15:58
djiezesAnyone know the best (official?) way to install Amarok 1.4 on Ubuntu 9.04? It's not in the default repositories anymore.15:59
ChopMonkey!offline15:59
racecar56Jeruvy, "(EE) Failed to load module "freetype" (module does not exist, 0)" aha15:59
ubottuIf you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.alturl.com/ - See also !APTonCD15:59
darkhamnetwork manager works now, or not?15:59
racecar56Jeruvy, found one15:59
weather15Default is Gnome15:59
mogul218_the font on my PC's 9.04 login screen is super tiny and unreadable.  How can I fix it?15:59
weather15Alternate is Text Based15:59
hale3rdubottu: thanks!15:59
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)15:59
SwedeMikeyou can download torrents from here for instance: http://ftp.df.lth.se/ubuntu-iso/9.04/15:59
dronixmy upgrade is slow :(15:59
JackWat|Lap!offline > me15:59
ubottuJackWat|Lap, please see my private message15:59
JackWat|Lap!aptoncd > me15:59
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weather15Servers are packed for download of 9.0416:00
racecar56!aptoncd > me16:00
ubotturacecar56, please see my private message16:00
dronixyeah I bet16:00
space_cadet0% working16:00
space_cadetstuck16:00
weather15I'm sure ever the main site was slow fora while16:00
httphello16:00
httpat all16:00
dethstarweather15, I bet the servers are damn near smoking right about now16:00
Tetsuoo9.04 is not available as alternate installer???16:00
racecar56space_cadet, press ctrl+c and do what your trying to do again16:00
httpI suggest to wait for 9.0416:01
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space_cadetit just got stuck for a min16:01
dronixhopefully they'll deal with the heavy traffic next release16:01
JackWat|LapGhoti: i dont have GUI16:01
icerootdronix: bittorrent deals with that16:01
racecar56._. i hope ill get my card fixed16:01
weather153 Hours 43 Minutes for iso download on OSU Open Source Lab16:01
space_cadetracecar56, will this update my repos list entries from intrepid to jaunty?16:01
racecar56space_cadet, you have to do it16:01
space_cadetok16:01
httpso I want to setup my jabber account on pidgin, how can I do it? I see error connection when I try16:01
Tetsuoojust download it from rapidshare  = win16:01
SwedeMikethere are plenty of fast mirrors still working16:01
dronixiceroot, I don't mean distribution, but the upgrade servers16:01
space_cadetif they exist ...16:01
new@dronix: Use torrents to download the cd and then use the cd as a repository16:01
weather15About 30 KB/sec16:01
J-_!torrents16:02
icerootdronix: ah ok16:02
ubottuJaunty can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your archieecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).16:02
racecar56(EE) Failed to load module "freetype" (module does not exist, 0) ummmmmm.....16:02
icerootdronix: this will be funny at next lts release16:02
racecar56lol16:02
Tetsuoo*wave* alternate installer 9.04 anyone?16:02
httpjabber who help me?16:02
racecar56Tetsuoo, homepage16:02
sluskTetsuoo: running it right now16:02
Tetsuoonot there16:02
iceroot!ask | http16:02
ubottuhttp: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)16:02
racecar56 16:03
racecar56 16:03
mogul218_!final16:03
ubottuIf you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Jaunty. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.16:03
RabidLockerGnomehey guys, anyone know of a good fast torrent for 9.04 desktop ?16:03
weather15Nope16:03
racecar56(EE) Failed to load module "freetype" (module does not exist, 0)16:03
RabidLockerGnomei can't find a  decent download anywhere :(16:03
racecar56what do i do to fix xorg16:03
weather15I think people keep switching until they find fast download server16:03
ruhaan_RabidLockerGnome: use torrents16:03
racecar56RabidLockerGnome, try releases.ubuntu.com16:04
ruhaan_the servers are gettin hammered16:04
Rockjis there a torrent up and running yet?16:04
newUSE Torrents16:04
sebsebsebruhaan_: of course it's release day16:04
racecar56and so is my laptop16:04
RabidLockerGnomeruhaan_: thats what i just asked for lol16:04
newhttp://it.releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/16:04
racecar56my laptop is probably gonna break into a thousand peices16:04
weather15Torrents are a good idea today but after a couple of days your better off to use ftp or http16:04
new@Rockj: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/16:04
newUse the torrents16:04
archmanJaunty released? :D16:05
RabidLockerGnomethe torrent i have looks like 6 hours to download :=\16:05
sebsebsebweather15: yeah  downloading on the weekend should be :)16:05
JPSmanok, HEALP, with using fdisk to format my linux partition16:05
tigeri want to know an option to use my installed program in ubuntu 8.4 on ubuntu 9.416:05
CydeWeysAll right! We need some more seeders and leechers on here: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4865683/Ubuntu_9.04_Jaunty_Jackalope_64-bit_%28x86-64_AMD64%29_Desktop_RELEA16:05
sebsebsebJPSman: uhmm?16:05
sriramomanis there any opensuse 11.1 user here who'd recommend a switch to ubuntu 9.04?16:05
WatchBotCydeWeys: Please keep your links on topic and work safe.16:05
racecar56does anyone know how to fix "(EE) Failed to load module "freetype" (module does not exist, 0)" xorg error? this is from my xorg log http://racecar56.pastebin.com/fea3f67e16:05
J-_Perhaps an op should change the /topic16:05
ellarRabidLockerGnome, patience16:05
screamsayonarafuck ipods suck16:05
sebsebsebtiger: what?16:05
ruhaan_CydeWeys: all ready on it from my server :)16:05
Rockjfired up torrent here now new :)16:05
racecar56 16:05
ellarRabidLockerGnome, will get better if more have finished downloading and seed16:05
Nikola @ sriramomani would16:05
edugonchhello, does somone knows about a good keyloger for linux?16:05
sebsebseb!language | screamsayonara16:05
ubottuscreamsayonara: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.16:05
djiezesAnyone know the best (official?) way to install Amarok 1.4 on Ubuntu 9.04? It's not in the default repositories anymore.16:05
NikolaI would16:06
italomaiasriramoman, i know some people that tried opensuse and hated it. Liked ubuntu better16:06
JPSmansebsebseb: im in livecdsession right now, and I want to use fdisk to format just my 30gig linux partition (7.10) but not my XP partition16:06
weather15I have I like ubuntu better16:06
CydeWeysruhaan_: Sweet, thanks.16:06
NikolaopenSUSE will be good in the next release, but now, stick with ubuntu16:06
ruhaan_JPSman: use the partition tool16:06
ikoniaCydeWeys: please don't post the piratebay links in here16:06
jelly-beani disabled vino and am running tightvncserver instead because it is better compression and faster. however when i connect to the server on :1 (5901) i see a desktop similar to the one when i login regularly from home. if i change anything about my desktop while logged in with vnc, it affects my normal desktop. (e.g. disabling panels, removing items from the panels, closing xwin apps, etc.). how can i have a separate desktop for vnc? my home desktop is tw16:06
gpledwhen should we see the option to upgrade to 9.04?16:06
JPSmanruhaan_ ?16:06
CydeWeysikonia: It's a link to Ubuntu. It's not illlegal.16:06
LjL!language | screamsayonara16:06
ubottuscreamsayonara: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.16:06
tigeri don't want to reinstall my programs in ubuntu 9.416:06
RabidLockerGnomeracecar56: how about pasting your xorg.conf into pastebin?16:06
ruhaan_JPSman: ubuntu comes with a gui partition tool16:06
ruhaan_use that16:06
ruhaan_to format16:06
cutoutHi, am very exited to install jaunty but the problem that I have to much installed and configured apps/servers on my ubuntu 8.10, and I would rather to make a fresh install to use ext4 :D is there any way to backup/restore all installed stuff and data???16:06
racecar56RabidLockerGnome, i did http://racecar56.pastebin.com/fea3f67e16:06
weather15over all of all the Distro's I have tried ubuntu seems to be the best16:07
sriramomanitalomaia, basically i felt compiz etc highly unstable in opensuse whereas it was very smooth in ubuntu 8.04 so i was thinking whether to download it again and download all missed packages too again.16:07
ikoniaCydeWeys: the site is in a legal situation, please don't post it16:07
sebsebsebedugonch: keyloggers can be useful, but  they are still classed as malware by a lot of people,  and  Linux distros hardly has any malware16:07
sriramomanfor ubuntu16:07
JPSmanruhaan_ yeah but I didnt see an option to format one partition vs another16:07
Rockjhttp://it.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent16:07
Rockjtorrent link atleast16:07
Rockj:)16:07
RabidLockerGnomeracecar56: no thats your log file16:07
tigercutout: i have same problem16:07
CydeWeysikonia: I'm not following your logic. How would the Pirate Bay being in a legal situation make it questionable to even post a link to it in here?16:07
racecar56RabidLockerGnome, oh, sorry im nuts16:07
ruhaan_JPSman: are u paritions listed in that tool?16:07
RabidLockerGnomei'm looking for /etc/X11/xorg.conf lol16:07
cutouttiger: what to do???16:07
CydeWeysThis isn't Communist Russia.16:07
edugonchno hay nadie en cracker ¬¬16:07
tigercutout: i wish i could know16:08
italomaiasriramoman, well, compiz run very well in my ubuntu too. When i used opensuse, i hated it much before trying compiz16:08
ikoniaCydeWeys: suggesting people to use a site thats in a dubious legal position at the moment - does not seem appropriate at this time16:08
LjL!es16:08
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.16:08
JPSmanruhaan_ yes, but it doesnt show an option to erase my old 30gig7.10 partition16:08
racecar56RabidLockerGnome, http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f3d0ebd1016:08
RabidLockerGnomeI'm totally gonna pirate ubuntu yay! hahaha16:08
racecar56RabidLockerGnome, lol16:08
ruhaan_JPSman: right click ur partition16:08
ruhaan_the ubuntu one16:08
ruhaan_there shud be an option for formar16:08
ruhaan_*format16:08
RabidLockerGnomeracecar56:       Load           "freetype" remove that maybe? lol16:08
JPSmanhrm, ok16:08
CydeWeysikonia: There's absolutely nothing wrong with using The Pirate Bay to download material that is legal to download. It's no different at all than getting it from the Ubuntu.com torrent servers.16:08
racecar56RabidLockerGnome, ok removed16:09
ruhaan_CydeWeys: i wud agree16:09
LjLCydeWeys: right, so give links to the ubuntu servers (see the topic, too)16:09
httpjabber help me16:09
ikoniaCydeWeys: I'd rather not see it at the moment please while it's in such a dubious state16:09
httpjabber help me16:09
ikoniahttp: if you ask a question the channel will try16:09
CydeWeysLjL: Oh, the Ubuntu torrent servers are good.  But you reach more people through the Pirate Bay.16:09
tiger Hi, am very exited to install jaunty but the problem that I have to much installed and configured apps/servers on my ubuntu 8.10, and I would rather to make a fresh install to use ext4 :D is there any way to backup/restore all installed stuff and data???16:10
httpI can't connect to my profile with pidgin16:10
CydeWeysThis is about GNU/Linux evangelism :-D16:10
httpI don't whay16:10
racecar56RabidLockerGnome, k, anything else?16:10
AlexFera//16:10
JPSmanruhaan_ - no right click option available16:10
LjLCydeWeys: and this channel is not, it's about ubuntu support - so try #ubuntu-release-party if you just have to post links to stuff16:10
RabidLockerGnomeracecar56: nope. not sure if u have to reboot tho16:10
CydeWeystiger: Well, if you have another computer on the same network, backing up is pretty simple.16:10
tanveerafter i installed ubuntu , xP was getting a winsock catalog provider error and i cant connect to the internet16:10
racecar56RabidLockerGnome, ill restart x16:10
httpI think that missing same opton16:10
httpo16:10
httpo16:10
httpo16:10
FloodBot2http: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.16:10
tigercydeweys: what about my programs16:11
woojIs it normal for my computer to not actually reboot (POST, etc) when I select restart in Ubuntu?  Ubuntu seems to restart, but...16:11
JPSmanis it possible to use fidsk in the live session user?16:11
LjLwooj: yes, it's a feature16:11
tanveerand i have ubuntu 8.10 and when i click on update, 9.04 dosent come up16:11
ikoniaJPSman: sure is16:11
woojLjL, okay ty.  I was paranoid :)16:11
ikonia!upgrade > tanveer16:11
ubottutanveer, please see my private message16:11
httphelp me16:11
mint3anyone know a desktop news sticker, that would scroll at the top of the screen with rss feeds/ news ?16:11
moxfalder9.04 in the way !16:11
httpwith jabber16:11
sebsebseb!ask |  http16:11
ubottuhttp: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)16:11
mint3i tried liferea, but u have to open it for it to work plus it doesnt tick at the top of the screen .16:12
gpledwhen should we see the option to upgrade to 9.04?16:12
nativeangelshas anyone else had a problem with wine,where the mouse pointer dosnt work with the wine window ?16:12
httpsebsebseb how configure to use jabber?16:12
sebsebsebhttp: with Jabber in which program?16:12
httpjabber in pidgin16:12
sebsebsebhttp: jabber or  gmail?16:12
sebsebsebhttp: jabber or googletalk?16:12
httpflavetius@jabber.org16:12
woojAlso, I had to compile a custom kernel, is there a way to get update manager to quit trying to update it? :)16:12
sebsebsebhttp: I think you just add it  into pidgin normalley,  and get some  server details and such from the jabber site or whatever16:13
sebsebsebhttp: you can also try #pidgin16:13
moxfaldercan i remove firefox installed with desktop edition ?16:13
LjLhttp: congratulation, you just posted an address to a channel that's publicly logged on the web...16:13
mint3anyone ?16:13
mint3moxfalder, use synaptics16:13
sebsebsebLjL: heh heh yeah,  the spammers might pick up his email address16:13
CydeWeystiger: Export the list of all programs you have installed and then reinstall them on your new machine.16:13
httpno problem16:13
sequethindo I have to do anything special to upgrade my jaunty RC to plain-old-jaunty?16:13
tanveerubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso, is the 1 im looking for16:13
httpI wait spammer16:13
nativeangelsive asked in winehq but not got anywhere16:13
Ben90why does my system always black out and go back to the login screen?16:13
CydeWeystiger: And when backing up, make sure to get everything relevant, including /etc16:13
httpit's my work wto want spammer16:14
httpbye bye16:14
mint3sequethin, just make sure you are fully updated ( via update manager)16:14
moxfalderwhy ubuntu is so COOL ?16:14
sequethinmint3: but it's not going to be considered a distribution upgrade right mint3 ?16:14
sebsebsebmoxfalder: ,because it's not Windows?16:14
new@moxfalder: Because it is LINUX!16:14
Ben90it only happens in low latency mode.16:14
mint3sequethin, do you have anything else left to be updated in your update manager?16:14
gpledsebsebseb: whats windows?16:15
moxfaldersebsebseb: true, true16:15
tanveerif i upgrade would i lose my files and the program i installed?16:15
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sequethinmint3: nope it was just firefox this morning, that's it :)16:15
v4vijayakumarupgrade is not going through.. any way to do through p2p-ly ??16:15
weather151I'm thinking it might be best if you'd download a pre-release version the day before the release and just update it16:15
sebsebsebtanveer: no16:15
_3rt41_ehi can someone tell me why i can't install 9.04 via wubi?16:15
_3rt41_i got a strange error16:15
sebsebsebtanveer: might have some issues with  upgrading now though, since download servers are packed16:15
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mint3sequethin,  then my dear, you are done. Type lsb_release -a16:15
mint3see what it says, sequethin .16:15
sequethinmint3: i did that, it says 9.04 i just wasn't sure if it would say RC or not16:15
sebsebsebtanveer: also if you want the new optional  Ext4 file system, you got to clean install really, and set up those partitions yourself16:15
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moxfalderaha...i haved problem with flash plugin for firefox, can anybody tell my how do this right ?16:16
mint3sequethin, you are fine then. hit back and enjoy jaunty power !16:16
sequethinmint3: meanwhile i'm updating my ubuntu server at home :) i love that it even opened an additional ssh server on port 9004 just in case something goes wrong16:17
TheDataso my notebook is going to run Jaunty (like my big tower computer already does)16:17
gpledmoxfalder: think you just go to the flash site, and it asks you if you want to install16:17
tymannfffjjiuh16:17
mint3sequethin, very intelligent yes.16:17
Ben90does anyone here know why my system would just black out and restart at the login screen?16:17
racecar56i might go back to intrepid...16:17
weather15Flash plugin is in package manager16:17
mint3anyone know a desktop news sticker, that would scroll at the top of the screen with rss feeds/ news ?16:17
cutoutHi, am very exited to install jaunty but the problem that I have to much installed and configured apps/servers on my ubuntu 8.10, and I would rather to make a fresh install to use ext4 :D is there any way to backup/restore all installed stuff and data???16:17
wrice__3rt41_: Could you pastebin the error message?16:17
Cameron!torrents16:17
ubottuJaunty can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your archieecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).16:17
moxfaldergpled: download .deb, install and nothing !16:17
mint3i tried liferea, but u have to open it for it to work plus it doesnt tick at the top of the screen .16:17
pepperjackmoxfalder: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ?16:17
sebsebsebBen90: old graphics card?16:17
_3rt41_WHY WUBI DOES NOT WORK?16:17
racecar56meh might as well try debian16:17
JPSmanUnder fdisk, I have an Extended partition (sda3 in my case) ID 5  that I can't load.  is this my live session?16:17
jacksparrowhey guys, when was jaunty released?16:17
sebsebsebBen90: which version of Ubuntu?16:17
gpledmoxfalder: iv never had to go out and get any thing16:17
racecar56!caps _3rt41_16:17
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about caps _3rt41_16:17
mint3jacksparrow, today, few hours ago.16:18
racecar56!caps | _3rt41_16:18
ubottu_3rt41_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.16:18
moxfalderpepperjack: tryied, not help !16:18
Ben90sebsebseb, it only happens when i'm in low latency mode16:18
_3rt41_yeah but you guys don't answer at all16:18
JimmymaniacNow that i'm about to get jaunty, again i wonder: Is 64 bits ok already for the desktop? there used to be problems for wine, flash and other things, dunno now. Experiences with this?16:18
Ben90sebsebseb, i'm running 9.0416:18
Anquietas7hello, I have a small problem, can anyone help me please ?16:18
stimpiedoes someone know how to add a sip account to empathy?16:18
racecar56_3rt41_, anyway, tell me more, i dont do windows though...16:18
sebsebsebJimmymaniac: first of all how much RAM do you have?16:18
_3rt41_why i get an error while installing with 9.04 with wubi16:18
_3rt41_?16:18
_3rt41_same as reported on the forums16:18
racecar56_3rt41_, what error16:18
dt3k!torrents16:18
ubottuJaunty can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your archieecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).16:18
mint3what error do you get ?16:18
_3rt41_by another guy16:18
_3rt41_wait i will get the post16:18
stimpieAnquietas7, depends on the problem16:19
Mr_Kaizer_3rt41_: Check the release notes, I belive there was something about it there16:19
mint3anyone know a desktop news sticker, that would scroll at the top of the screen with rss feeds/ news ?i tried liferea, but u have to open it for it to work plus it doesnt tick at the top of the screen .16:19
mint3ticker*16:19
_3rt41_uhm16:19
noqq!update16:19
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading16:19
racecar56any way i can fix my gfx card on my laptop?16:19
pepperjackmoxfalder: you basically drop the plugin in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/. i often just download firefox from the mozilla website extract it to my home folder as firefox/ and then just drop the plugin in firefox/plugins16:19
Ben90sebsebseb, it only happens whem i'm copying diles or doing something important.16:20
knittlhi! isn't notify-osd supposed to be transparent? or do i need to have compiz running for this?16:20
v4vijayakumarubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso is only 593 MB ?! :-/16:20
_3rt41_here it is16:20
_3rt41_http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113190116:20
_3rt41_same error16:20
albechi have kept my ubuntu updated daily since 9.04 beta, does that mean i already have 9.04 final?16:20
happosadeCan I see somewhere, how much bandwidth ubuntu relases are taking world wide in torrent-network?16:20
Ben90how do i find out what error i'm getting?16:20
SwedeMikealbech: yes.16:20
defryskalbech, yes16:20
albechty16:20
Anquietas7my problem is that I've installed the New Jaunty Jackalope  Desktop 64 Bit edition and I cannot load the Desktop Effects... it says that "Could not enable desktop effects"... I've launched compiz from the Terminal but it says that it cannot find XGL and something is Blacklisted... what should I do ? please help16:20
_3rt41_here's the error i get -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113190116:21
Ben90the error is so bad that it boots me out my desktop then it wants me to log in again.16:21
mint3you using an ATI card, Anquietas7 ?16:21
weather15lot of bugs with 9.04?16:21
leohartxhow do i perform check sums in linux ( i forgot)16:21
Anquietas7no, Intel Mobile Card16:21
mint3weather15,  so and so like any new releases.16:21
sebsebsebweather15: no16:21
albechin that case i can say 9.04 has been working flawless since beta on my VAIO notebook.. very good job16:21
Ben90how would i go back to 8.10?16:22
pepperjackBen90: reinstall16:22
racecar56there goes my laptop again16:22
Ben90or is 9.04 finally stable now?16:22
racecar56it is16:22
mint3yeah i got jaunty both on my laptop and pc. it works marvellously well.16:22
leonelno torrent for  netbook remix ???16:22
wrice_leohartx: md5sum16:22
racecar56it was released TODAY16:22
Ben90ok.16:22
dt3khttp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent             <-------this is final right?  it says 4-20-0916:22
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kklimondaBen90: it was officially released16:22
HuufartedAnybody that knows the difference between desktop and netbook with 9.04?16:22
dronix:( 15kbs16:22
racecar56how do i fix my gfx card???16:22
mint3weather15,  the best proof of the pudding is in the tasting.16:22
grawityBen90: 9.04 has been released, but users say it's still full of bugs :(16:22
racecar56how do i fix my gfx card????????16:22
_3rt41_any ubuntu pro to solve this? ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113190116:22
Jimmymaniacsebsebseb: 2Gb + 1Gb swapfile16:22
bdelin88I am pretty familiar with ubuntu but I am facing a system-freeze problem that I cannot figure out what the problem is, can anyone help me figure this out, I could pastebin some logfiles if i need to16:23
racecar56ill go run a forkbomb16:23
racecar56jk16:23
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Ben90i'll talk later.16:23
_3rt41_anyone at all? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113190116:23
dt3khttp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent             <-------this is final right?  it says 4-20-0916:23
weather15Download time keeps going up up and up16:23
Anquietas7well ? some suggestions, ideeas ... ?...16:23
SwedeMikedt3k: yes.16:23
Picidt3k: yes16:23
dt3kthx16:23
Asadweird... I am upgrading using the "alternate cd" and it still is downloading some packages from the internet - although I selected "NO" to network upgrades16:24
racecar56how2fix gfx?????16:24
Jimmymaniacdt3k: yep16:24
Jeruvytorrents are downloading very quickly, less than 10 minutes here.16:24
weather15WOW16:24
TheDatatorrents are super!16:24
weather15I will try torrent then thanks16:24
_3rt41_is there anybody able to solve this ? -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113190116:24
dt3ktorrent is way to go, over 1200 seeders on this AMD64 release16:24
Huufartedracecar56: how2fix is not a word.  Proper English, please.16:24
dt3kprobably more seeders on the i386 release16:24
leohartxwrice_ : thanks16:24
decipherstatichow can you upgrade from 9.04 beta to the release?16:24
SwedeMikeI am seeding all relases, I'm not even using all my upstream capacity16:24
Huufartedracecar56: and if you do not get an answer, you either need to PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION or nobody knows how to fix it16:24
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magicrobotmonkeyis it possible to upgrade from ext3 to ext4 after upgrading to jaunty without wiping discs?16:25
XulOrezBusanyone know where i can get that sweet login screen from 9.04 as a background?16:25
_3rt41_I am a total ubuntu noob, but this CRAP does not make me happy to switch to this system -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113190116:25
joaopinto!language | _3rt41_16:25
ubottu_3rt41_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.16:25
Anquietas7well, can anyone help me or ?... what should I do ?16:25
shivamUbuntu 8.10 is not detecting my bison web cam, can anyone help?16:25
TheData@SwedeMike: I am seeding all different kinds of linux distris since months.... ;-)16:25
macvrmagicrobotmonkey: yes , but u might want to backup16:25
_3rt41_oww come on just give some help ->>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113190116:25
LjL!repeat16:25
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience16:26
weather15Just upgrade packages in package manager16:26
_3rt41_how it is possible to get a D AMN error on wubi fresh install? i mean W T F http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113190116:26
pronoy_hi : how to give a command root previliges in the beginning of the session ??16:26
weather15Where can I find 9.04 torrents?16:26
woojI had to compile a custom Kernel, is there a way to get Update-Manager to quit trying to install the same kernel again?  Its the same version I believe.16:26
AsadI am upgrading using the "alternate cd" and it still is downloading some packages from the internet - although I selected "NO" to network upgrades ... ideas?16:26
markrianWhat's the quickest/easiest way to try out jaunty's new notifications?16:26
* Ciros sits and upgrades16:26
bdelin88I am pretty familiar with ubuntu but I am facing a system-freeze problem that I cannot figure out what the problem is, can anyone help me figure this out, I could pastebin some logfiles if i need to16:27
macvrpronoy: what is the command ?16:27
_3rt41_FUCK YOU ALL16:27
lepassiveHi i was moving a file to a dir in a NTFS partition, the light went off, now i get Input/Output Error when doing any mv, rm on that directory any help?16:27
bdelin88anyone?16:27
pepperjack_3rt41_: that is a wubi problem.  im not sure if wubi is officially supported or not on this channel.  honestly i would just do a normal ubuntu install and dual boot if you must.16:27
Jimmymaniac!ask16:28
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)16:28
bdelin88I am pretty familiar with ubuntu but I am facing a system-freeze problem that I cannot figure out what the problem is, can anyone help me figure this out, I could pastebin some logfiles if i need to16:28
pronoy_macvr: rmmod pcspkr16:28
Belding!poop16:28
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about poop16:28
LjL!botabuse16:28
ubottuPlease investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".16:28
Anquietas7my problem is that I've installed the New Jaunty Jackalope  Desktop 64 Bit edition and I cannot load the Desktop Effects... it says that "Could not enable desktop effects"... I've launched compiz from the Terminal but it says that it cannot find XGL and something is Blacklisted... what should I do ? please help16:28
macvrpronoy: just add "sudo " infront16:28
bdelin88I am pretty familiar with ubuntu but I am facing a system-freeze problem that I cannot figure out what the problem is, can anyone help me figure this out, I could pastebin some logfiles if i need to16:29
pronoy_macvr: :D i think i know that much....the point is that the command will not run unless supplied with the password...and it doesnt ask for one16:29
weather159.04 Torrent 32 bit link?16:29
macvrpronoy: but is this command supposed to start during login?16:29
Jimmymaniac!ask | bdelin8816:29
ubottubdelin88: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)16:29
pepperjackbdelin88: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log.  if you are using binary nvidia drivers it may be worthwhile to test using the nv driver instead. could though be any number of things16:29
decipherstaticI have 9.04 beta and have run apt-get update / upgrade and there is nothing showing up?16:29
racecar56ubuntu 9.04, graphics card not working right, xorg log: http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f687d5a1e xorg.conf: http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f4366478716:29
mrwesAnquietas7: what kind of video card/chip?16:29
icqnAnquietas7, what graphic do you have and what driver do you use?16:29
daftykinsbdelin88, don't repeat so regularly please. can you describe your freezes in more detail?16:29
bdelin88pepperjack, i am using the open source ati drivers16:30
pronoy_macvr: if added to the sessions...i think it should work16:30
The`LibrarianMy issue is quite simple I hope, first timer at Linux, I want to know if it is possible to set the install to load my graphics card drivers before it starts the install so I can SEE what it is doing?16:30
madrazrHello all, I have installed Jaunty and it ships with Python2.6 by default. I really want Python 2.5 by default16:30
jEns|afki have a o2-UMTS-Stick: icon210 and the new ubuntu, does somone know how i can install the stick(modem)16:30
madrazrhow do I do it?16:30
Cirospronoy_:  you try the sudo -s ?16:30
sancho21Congrats to Ubuntu team and community for the great Jaunty release. Good job!!! I even have to wait 3 times using wget to download the iso.16:30
pronoy_Ciros: what does sudo -s do ..and no i haven't tried it16:30
macvrpronoy: have u tried adding to sessions?16:30
pepperjackbdelin88: pastebin maybe the xorg log file and dmeg as well16:30
bdelin88daftykins: the freezes occur usually when it's idle or not idle16:30
weather159.04 Torrent 32 bit link?16:30
icqnThe`Librarian, it is so by default16:31
Pici!torrents > weather1516:31
ubottuweather15, please see my private message16:31
bdelin88pepperjack: rgr, one sec, thanks16:31
icqni think16:31
pronoy_macvr: pay attention bro...i need to supply it with a password after adding it to sessions....that's the whole issue16:31
racecar56here16:31
racecar56http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f1b37e8a416:31
Gnimshmornin16:31
bdelin88pepperjack: xorg.0.log?  it's empty16:31
racecar56dmesg16:31
racecar56ubuntu 9.04, graphics card not working right, xorg log: http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f687d5a1e xorg.conf: http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f43664787 dmesg: http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f1b37e8a416:32
macvrpronoy: either u can remove the password prompt for al the commands ...16:32
GnimshI'm just wondering where I can find the human theme folder to edit the gtrk file to change the space between menu items (in apps, system, etc)16:32
panaggiowhat I have to do to "upgrade" from #jaunty beta to #jaunty stable?16:32
v4vijayakumarI am downloading "ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso" from corresponding torrent, can I upgrade from this..?!16:32
Gnimshin hardy i was able to run "locate human" in terminal and find it, but that folder doesn't come up in jaunty16:32
dergringohow do I get rid of this crazy fglrx?16:32
pepperjackbdelin88: eh?  doublecheck the spelling and case make sure it didnt open a new file for you istead of the existing log16:32
hbekelracecar56: look at line 836+ of your dmesg paste16:32
Gnimshv4vijayakumar, that will overwrite your current install16:33
bdelin88pepperjack: yea i think you're right, sry16:33
Gnimshif you want to update do update-manager -d16:33
panaggiodergringo: how crazy?16:33
jEns|afkhello, i have a o2-UMTS-Stick: icon210 and an up-to-date ubuntu, does somone know how i can install the stick(modem)?16:33
pronoy_macvr: that doesn't solve the problem....you see the output remains so....after the command is executed it requires a password to execute....so after adding it to the sessions menu i need a way that it should automatically get one or i need to enter one16:33
PiciGnimsh: You need to run sudo update-db before your run locate (it runs automagically ever day or so anyway)16:33
manoloHello, what happend with the release of ubuntu 9? when will be out?16:33
v4vijayakumarGnimsh: oh no..16:33
pronoy_manolo: it is out16:33
drguildois there any way i can change the permissions for all dynamically mounted fat32 usb mass storage devices?16:33
The`Librarianicqn: Running a GeForce 4 MX440 GFX card, using a tv and the S-Video out port to actually use My pc... I start the Ubuntu installation and all I get is ablank screen... nada, nothing... hence the problem16:33
manolowhere i can download it?16:33
icqn!topic | manolo16:33
ubottumanolo: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic16:33
GnimshPici, command not found16:33
sudayahello, i am having problem with my webacam in ubuntu16:33
gpledwho was having trouble with wubi ?16:33
pronoy_manolo: read the topic of the channel16:33
sudayaany help plz16:33
v4vijayakumarGnimsh: just thought of using p2p path to reduce http load16:34
PiciGnimsh: Sorry, sudo updatedb16:34
pronoy_sudaya: just ask16:34
dade`now that 9.04 is out i can complain16:34
dergringopanaggio, it says version mismatch expecting x.org 7.4 found 7.116:34
Beldinghaha16:34
racecar56hbekel, i still have a 180.44 script, should i install that one?16:34
hbekelracecar56: in case you have just upgraded form 180.44 to 180.51, have you unloaded the old nvidia module and inserted the new one?16:34
dade`vmmouse does not sync with host os using ubuntu 9.04 as guest16:34
manolooh thanks you and please excuse me16:34
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bdelin88pepperjack: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156585/ is the xorg log file16:34
racecar56hbekel, all i did was run the newer one16:34
racecar56hbekel, i guess not16:34
Gnimshstill gives same results16:34
JPSmanhow long will 9.04 be supported?16:34
drguildothis channel is borderline unusable16:34
racecar56JPSman, 18 monts16:34
macvrpronoy: add the command to /etc/rc.local16:34
or4nHi, has anyone tested VMWare Workstation in 9.04?16:34
sudayapronoy,lsusb shows Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0c45:613c Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)16:34
racecar56JPSman, 18 months16:34
PiciJPSman: 18 months16:34
madrazrcan anyone please tell me how to make Python 2.5 default on 9.04?16:34
GnimshI'm wondering if maybe they replaced the folders with single xml files or something16:35
hbekelracecar56: you need to rmmod nvida, modprobe nvidia16:35
weather15Torrents slower for me16:35
racecar56hbekel, k16:35
drguildotoo many people16:35
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pronoy_sudaya: i meant ask the whole channel !! :D16:35
gpleddrguildo:  :)16:35
hbekelracecar56: at least that will resolve that specific error16:35
drguildoare there any channels for more specific help?16:35
kklimondaor4n: yes16:35
racecar56hbekel, ill be back16:35
drguildosilly to ask16:35
or4nkklimonda: works without any problems?16:35
macvrpronoy_: add it without the sudo16:35
gpleddrguildo: we should start one16:35
kklimondaor4n: most recent version (6.5.2) works flawlessly.16:35
drguildoquestion will scroll off the screen in 2 seconds16:35
sudayahaving problem with web cam16:36
Jimmymaniacmadrazr: my guess would be to install version 2.5 and see if it's supported by the alternates system, dunno16:36
bahadunnanyone have jaunty with ati graphics and get the tearing screen with fglrx?16:36
drebeshello there16:36
macvrsudaya: what model?16:36
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dade`I see ppl helping me all around, i think i'll suffocate16:36
or4nkklimonda: Good to know... maybe I'll upgrade mine then :)16:36
sudayaBus 004 Device 002: ID 0c45:613c Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)16:36
pronoy_macvr: i think it requires root previliges to run16:36
madrazrJimmymaniac: I have installed 2.516:36
drebesjust made a fresh install of 9.04, but can't find the openssh-server package? where did it go?!16:36
Asadhey ... anyone know how to change "upgrade manager" mirror ?16:36
sudayamacvr: Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0c45:613c Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)16:36
macvrpronoy_: no need while adding to rc.local16:36
panaggiodergringo: have you tryied to update and upgrade yet?16:36
drguildogpled: not just another one, i mean like #ubuntu-network, #ubuntu-storage etc.16:36
gpleddrguildo: that would be a good idea16:37
drguildogpled: then people with particular knowledge can hang out in specific ones and people who need to get help on that topic can go there and not get flooded off16:37
macvrpronoy_: edit the rc.local, add the command, but sudo is not required, the command will run during every boot as root16:37
Jimmymaniacmadrazr: man update-alternatives and check if python is there (--list i think)16:37
v4vijayakumarcan I download "ubuntu-9.04-alternate-amd64.iso" through torrent, and upgrade locally..?? anyone ??16:37
biosedhey lads got a problem sending large amount of emails "2.6.27-7-server #1 SMP Tue Nov 4 20:16:57 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux"16:37
sudayamacvr: camstreame dont show device name16:37
Asadv4vijayakumar: yes....16:37
Gnimshv4vijayakumar, do you have home on its own partition?16:37
sipiordrguildo: you can always start your own, i suppose.16:37
jtholmesdrebes, should be there    exec   apt-cache search openssh  see what it finds16:37
pronoy_macvr: hang on..i'll have to check the rc.local16:37
dergringopanaggio, I've been using jaunty for 3 weeks. Just decided to install the driver today16:37
madrazrJimmymaniac: ah Ok cool! let me try16:37
Asadv4vijayakumar: though some packages need internet access.. I need 500mb from internet despite having the alternate cd16:38
v4vijayakumarGnimsh: I have everything in one partition16:38
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Gnimshthen afaik you'll you have to reformat that partition16:38
gpleddrguildo: yah, then we could send people to a channel, where people can help them, in an area that they know best16:38
Gnimshso if you back up your files, you can install via the CD16:38
panaggiodergringo: what driver? sorry if I lost some of your posts16:38
macvrsudaya: sorry pal.. i'm not sure of that model... but the present kernel2.27/28 has a lot of problems with cameras16:38
Gnimshthen put everything back16:38
weather15I'm thinking I might be beter of to run 8.10 for a couple of weeks16:38
mint3anyone know a desktop news sticker, that would scroll at the top of the screen with rss feeds/ news ?i tried liferea, but u have to open it for it to work plus it doesnt tick at the top of the screen .16:38
Gnimshbut you can't do the same upgrade as from the update manager16:38
JPSman"Scanning the mirror"  I knew I should have DVD installed :OP16:38
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drebesjtholmes It finds openssh-client, but not -server.16:38
drebesweird.16:38
Asadv4vijayakumar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades#AlternateUpgrade16:38
icqnThe`Librarian, well, i do not know, seems that you s-out put just not turned out by default, try vga?!16:38
v4vijayakumarAsad: thats fine, by then I will be on 9.04 :)16:38
jtholmesdrebes, yes it was there a day or so ago as i installed it16:39
Gnimshwhoa cool16:39
macvrpronoy_: make sure u add it to the line before exit016:39
mariaisabelj16:39
xmrkitehey, does anyone know of a good IM program that pops up messages when they come in? Similar to how AIM pops up a little notification near the clock in windows?16:39
dergringopanaggio, just downloaded and installed the binary ati driver from amd homepage because envy doesn't show a comapible driver anymore (it has in hardy and before)16:39
mariaisabelola espero k estees bem16:39
gpleddrguildo: right now, a "ubuntu 9.04 upgrade channel" would be good16:39
panaggioxmrkite: use pidgin with the proper plugin16:39
Pici!es | mariaisabel16:39
ubottumariaisabel: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.16:39
pronoy_macvr: i'll have to first make the whole thing....and then sym link it to the file rcS.c16:39
Pici!ot16:40
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!16:40
gpleddrguildo: so much stuff flying by, i cant even read16:40
KingKimiHi . i am doing manual install...... where must i place the newly created Ext3 ?? beginning or AT the end ??? help me ..16:40
weather15There really needs to be 9.04 channel16:40
KingKimi!jaunty > KingKimi16:40
ubottuKingKimi, please see my private message16:40
Prez00isn't this now a 9.04 channel?  the channel is for current version...16:40
mariaisabelisabel_96@wapa.com16:40
panaggiodergringo: use ati opensource driver. I've used fglrx for a long time, and I can say that the opensource driver is now as good as the closed source alternative16:40
xmrkitei got pidgen going, but which plugin do i use for that?16:41
PiciPrez00: Yes.16:41
bdelin88pepperjack: I have system log files paste-binned as well if you need to look at those16:41
pronoy_macvr: man ubuntu uses 2 for graphical boot right ?16:41
yowshiweee upgrade day. maybe this time they will fix some of the sound issues16:41
KingKimii am doing manual install..... where must i place the ext3 ?? in the beggning or  at the end ?? help mne quickly plzzzz.... and is 1700 mb of swap enough ?? ( i have 1 gb ram)16:41
panaggioxmrkite: guifications or something like it16:41
gpledtheir would need to be a way, would could tie the channels together16:41
xmrkitek16:41
macvrpronoy_: ? not sure...16:41
xmrkitetx Panaggie16:41
defryskxmrkite, the notification plugin probably16:41
panaggioxmrkite: my pidgin is translated to portuguese, so I don't know the original name16:42
JPSmanalmost about to run Jaunty for the first time....I'll catch you guys on the flip side :OD16:42
pronoy_macvr: u see i'll need to create a whole rc.local...and sym link it with rc2.c and am not sure it'll work or not16:42
dergringopanaggio, does it perform as good as proprietary driver?16:42
xmrkiteis it included with Pidgen, or is that something i have to go find and install16:42
v4vijayakumarsome problem again,  there is no server / desktop alternate iso torrents...16:42
pronoy_macvr: i think if i added the script to bash then will it work16:42
gpledweather15: can you join #ubuntu-helpdesk?16:42
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macvrpronoy_: dont u have rc.local by default?16:43
KingKimiPLZ HELP ME :( where must i place the ext3 ?? in the beggning or  at the end ?? help mne quickly plzzzz.... and is 1700 mb of swap16:43
pronoy_macvr: in ubuntu i don't think it exists16:43
gpleddrguildo: can you join #ubuntu-helpdesk16:43
drguildogpled: hehehe, yeah16:43
drguildogpled: people will still probably just come here though16:43
manpooleso what time did it come out?16:43
manpooleand what is the fastest way to download it?16:43
wrice_v4vijayakumar: Alternate installers: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate16:43
panaggiodergringo: in general, yes. there's some really little problems. and it's better in some cases16:43
macvrpronoy_: i'm not sure how i have it!16:43
defryskxmrkite, get pidgin-plugin-pack , it has guifications included16:43
Picigpled: We are not splitting the channels at this time, please do not redirect people to unofficial channels.16:43
drguildogpled: it's like trying to read a book by doing cat war_and_peace.txt16:43
Lint01panaggio, open source driver has no 3D16:43
jtholmesmanpoole about 9A EST16:43
xmrkitegreat - tx16:43
drebesjust run update-manager, openssh-server is now found. :)16:43
KingKimiPLZ HELP ME :( where must i place the ext3 ?? in the beggning or  at the end ?? help mne quickly plzzzz.... and is 1700 mb of swap16:43
KingKimii am doing manual install16:43
Lint01I've lost both sound and 3D acceleration after upgrade, and it's still not fixed in Release. What kind of problem is this?16:43
pronoy_macvr: i'll have to check..hang on...once again :)16:44
mindframe-is the 9.04 alternate installer not available yet?16:44
PiciKingKimi: Wherever you want.16:44
panaggioLint01: well, I have compiz here, and I heve the cube, and a lot more.16:44
bdelin88pepperjack: you still there man?16:44
gpledPici:  just trying to move the topic, to talk about it16:44
KingKimiPici will it affect my windows in C ??16:44
manpoolecool which bt / mirror is the fastest currently?16:44
kklimondamindframe-: no - it's already there16:44
pepperjackbdelin88: yeah. im at work sorry. nothing in that log file.16:44
pepperjackbdelin88: no problems anyway16:44
Lint01panaggio, which card do you have?16:44
KingKimiPici: i did install manual to F drive ,,,,  and xp is in C ..... if i place it in beginning or end ? will it affect xp ?16:45
KingKimiPici: ?16:45
Picigpled: #ubuntu-offtopic is for other, non support subjects.16:45
PiciKingKimi: Only if you touch that partition.16:45
bdelin88pepperjack: oh ok man, sry, didn't know you were still on :)16:45
panaggioLint01: Radeon Xpress 200M16:45
lantay77how ocme the torrent page is only ubuntu 8.10 and 8.04?16:45
gpledPici: thank16:45
sudayamacvr: my kernel version is 2.6.27-11-generic16:45
lantay77where are the 9.04 torrents?16:45
Pici!torrents > lantay7716:45
ubottulantay77, please see my private message16:45
KingKimi!torrents > lantay7716:45
bdelin88pepperjack: do you have time to look at this system log?  I am *trying* to look through it, but I don't understand much, looking for anything odd like errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156589/16:45
KingKimioopps ! sorry pici !16:45
pronoy_macvr: i have it alright..now do i write a script and then add it to it or write the whole command there ?16:45
Natanael_LOuch, I don't have enough free space on / (/home is on a seperate partition) - so I can't upgrade my laptop!16:45
Natanael_LArgh!16:45
KingKimiPici: i am instlling ubuntu to F drive..... and windows is in C drive...... so whether it will affect my xp or not ?16:46
macvrsudaya: lot of cams have problem in this kernel u need to wait for kernel 2.6.29...16:46
KingKimiPici: i mean, the begginning or the end16:46
defryskNatanael_L, sudo apt-get clean and check again16:46
Natanael_LI have no interest in wiping stuff there first16:46
Natanael_Ldefrysk: thanks, will do16:46
bdelin88pepperjack: I found this "AMI BIOS detected: BIOS may corrupt low RAM, working it around." on line 566916:46
PiciKingKimi: No, it should not.16:46
coindoes some  Chinese people here ?16:46
Pici!zh | coin16:46
sudayamacvr: thankx , when it will be released16:46
ubottucoin: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk16:46
Lint01how can I see my current videodriver?16:46
macvrpronoy_: just add the command u want to execute before the line exit0... what does the command do by the way?16:46
Natanael_Ldefrysk: no output?16:47
KingKimiPici:  thanks very much.. !16:47
weather15Downloads are getting slower Slower and Slower16:47
macvrsudaya: not sure... just have to wait...16:47
defryskLint01, apt-cache policy <yourdriverpackage>16:47
KingKimi Pici and i gave swap as 1700 .. i have 1G ram./. so is it ok ?16:47
defryskNatanael_L, then its done ;)16:47
PiciKingKimi: Thats fine.16:47
panaggioLint01: lspci | grep VGA16:47
Natanael_LThat fast?16:47
pronoy_macvr: you experience the irritating pc beep when you press backspace in any textfield ? it removes that16:47
bdelin88pepperjack: also found this on line 5490: "Apr 22 01:51:26 dansdesktop pulseaudio[5412]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-x11-xsmp" (argument: ""): initialization failed."16:47
Natanael_LLolzorz. Doubt 2 GB was cleaned that fast, even on Linux16:47
defryskNatanael_L, looks like it, see how much more space you have now16:48
macvrpronoy_: oh... just add the command, no need to sudo it...16:48
KingKimiPici: THANKS !! .. meet you in this channel from "real" ubuntu ;-)16:48
bdelin88Line 5486 found this: "Apr 22 01:51:13 dansdesktop x-session-manager[5343]: WARNING: Unable to find provider 'gnome-wm' of required component 'windowmanager'  "16:48
Natanael_LI've got 8 GB for /, thought it was enough when installing16:48
KingKimiPici:  Bye !16:48
manoloIm a web developer, i develope since  9 years ago on windows and im trying to migrate to ubuntu, there is on windows, on notepad++ a feature that i absolute need. when im over a word, all the words like that get shadow, you can see an example here: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/351031/sombrea.png16:48
Natanael_LYes, I'm a (semi-)noob16:48
AslanManHello .. please help me out here .. I have a problem with my kernel (using ubuntu 9.04 and latest kernel (28.11 generic)), it doesn't let me use mouse and keyboard. So I want to try installing an older version but I can't even login to recovery mode. So I am now in through Ubuntu LiveCD and I have access to the installed file system HD ..16:48
yowshimanolo:  there is a highlight all function in gedit i think16:49
Lint01panaggio, there's no driver info in lspci output16:49
yowshimanolo: when you use the search16:49
manoloi cant found it16:49
defryskNatanael_L, how much space has your / ?16:49
AslanManHOw can I using shell mount that HD to be able to use the file system as if I am in?16:49
AslanManHello .. please help me out here .. I have a problem with my kernel (using ubuntu 9.04 and latest kernel (28.11 generic)), it doesn't let me use mouse and keyboard. So I want to try installing an older version but I can't even login to recovery mode. So I am now in through Ubuntu LiveCD and I have access to the installed file system HD ..16:49
AslanManHOw can I using shell mount that HD to be able to use the file system as if I am in?16:49
FloodBot2AslanMan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.16:49
hbekelmanolo: emacs highlights searches in a simmilar manner16:49
manoloyowshi: yeah but in notepad is without search just when im over any word.16:49
Natanael_LAslanMan: I'm not really sure, but you could download an older kernel and put it in /boot I think, then update /boot/grub/menu.list manually16:49
oshua86_ok, so someone told me to install the kubuntu package so i could flip between gnome and kde, i did install but its not showing when i log off the option for kde16:49
panaggioLint01: sorry, I've read "video card"16:49
oshua86_anything else i need to install?16:49
pronoy_macvr: it doesn't have a exit0 line16:50
duanebhi people16:50
duanebcould i have help with wine?16:50
yowshioh16:50
Natanael_Loshua86_: You have to switch from login screen - options are somewhere16:50
duaneband WoW?16:50
AslanManNatanael_L: Just download and put it there?16:50
cointhank you16:50
macvrpronoy_: pastebin the /etc/rc.local file16:50
Natanael_LAslanMan: Don't know.16:50
duanebAfter the intro video plays, it dies with a memory access error.16:50
Natanael_Ldefrysk: Checking16:50
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oshua86_Natanael_L, right like log off the click in optiosn right?16:50
jtholmesmanolo, couldnt read it real well but i only use vim it will do things like that16:51
panaggioLint01: maybe 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver' will show you what's the driver xorg is going to use16:51
bdelin88pepperjack: this seems to be reoccurring throughout the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156593/16:51
Skiessidid ubuntu 9.04 get released?16:51
Natanael_Ldefrysk: 1.6 GB16:51
racecar56yes16:51
commodore256yeah16:51
jtholmesmanolo, but vim has a steep learning curve16:51
uni4dfxw000! party time16:51
Skiessi\o/16:51
racecar56me like vim16:51
Pici!ot16:51
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!16:51
uni4dfxi'm so getting wasted today16:51
defryskNatanael_L, that is not much16:51
Skiessiyeah16:51
hbekelracecar56: success?16:51
Natanael_LLook for updates via GUI and click upgrade16:51
racecar56hbekel, well, i decided aww heck it's just a driver, it would be better to have it working anyway, cause thats all that matters16:51
jtholmesracecar56, i like it to16:51
racecar56hbekel, im sticking with 180.4416:52
archmanWill my boot setting remain the same if I upgrade to Jaunty (turned off wome services on boot)16:52
racecar56hbekel, but still.... no 3D16:52
PiciThis is still a *support* channel, please take the chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-release-party16:52
defryskNatanael_L, you could try upgrading in sections and after each bit sudo apt-get clean16:52
pronoy_macvr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156596/16:52
Lint01panaggio, my xorg.conf contains only entries like 'Configured Video Device', etc16:52
racecar56hbekel, oops im wrong, i DO have 3D16:52
racecar56hbekel, problem solved16:52
funkyHatagh :(. Firefox is crashing every time it starts, and it's not asking if I want to reload tabs because of the crash. Anyone know how to clear remembered tabs/session?16:52
Natanael_Ldefrysk: Any other quick ways to lose 400 MB? Can I resize / live? I know it's probably unlikely though...16:52
hbekelracecar56: no, problem evaded16:52
weather15If anyone is looking for wine help Server: irc.freenode.net16:53
weather15    Port: 666716:53
weather15    Channel: #winehq16:53
racecar56hbekel, all i have to do is remember do not upgrade nvidia driveres16:53
Natanael_Ldefrysk: Sections?16:53
Piciweather15: This is freenode.16:53
defryskNatanael_L, you can resize with an ubuntu jaunty livecd16:53
mphillPici: good point16:53
macvrpronoy_: u r looking at the wrong file!!! i said /etc/rc.local16:53
Natanael_Lfglrx have no working version for 9.04! :(16:53
Natanael_LI've got no live-cd here16:53
pronoy_macvr: OH man !! so sorry !!! hang on16:54
LeChacalhello, i am trying to sort out my partition and under fdisk I see a partition that I don't recognize. I have tried mounting it but mount wants a file system type and have tried what i thought it is with no luck. Can someone help me figure out what this partition is and how to mount it to see what is on it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/156598/16:54
jtholmesdefrysk, resize a partition with manual install yes16:54
Natanael_LHmm..... UNetbootin?16:54
funkyHatNatanael_L: if your card is R500 or older there is now full 3D support in the open source ATI drivers, so you don't need fglrx16:54
Natanael_LAti 1200 xpress mobile whatever16:54
lianimatorhow do I upgrade pidgin from 2.5.2 to 2.5.5 on intrepid?16:54
Type3SingularityCan someone with a clean Jaunty install do a 'df -h' and tell me how much space it uses?16:55
hbekelracecar56: all you would have to do is to actually LOAD the updated module before trying to use it16:55
Lint01funkyHat, and how can enable it? I have RV515 card16:55
macvrNatanael_L: what is the ATI card u are using?16:55
racecar56lianimator, getdeb.net16:55
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Natanael_LI know that the ATI control panel have shwon up now after an update earlier16:55
sipiorLeChacal: looks like an extended partition, judging from the start and end cylinder values.16:55
duanebWhen I upgraded to 8.10 from 8.04, the sound stopped working16:55
pronoy_macvr: yeah i have alright...i'll add it16:55
Natanael_Lmacvr: 1200 express mobile something16:55
duanebunder pavucontrol, the output device just disappeared.16:55
macvrpronoy_: sure the end is exit016:55
defryskNatanael_L, about sections , first for example upgrade gnome, then clean, then sudo apt-get upgrade , then clean, en then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (for example)16:55
AslanManGuys, how can I mount ubuntu file system that reside on another HD logged in in another system on the same box but different HD inorder to access the other file system using shell as if I am actually logged in there?16:55
Lint01so can anyone here tell me how to know the videodriver which is currently in use?16:56
Natanael_Ldefrysk: Some other day. This library is closing soon16:56
NejinOniwanect16:56
defryskk16:56
racecar56hbekel, so do sudo rmmod nvidia, then execute nvidia 180.51 setup, then tell it to auto configure xorg.conf and then sudo modprobe nvidia, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start?16:56
funkyHatLint01: if you installed ubuntu from the CD it will already be enabled, if you upgraded, try moving your /etc/X11/xorg.conf so it isn't read ( sudo mv /etc/X11/{xorg.conf,xorg.conf.old} )16:56
RickXanyone know why sysinfo doesn't appear in the Debian menu?16:56
sipiorLeChacal: and the fact that the remaining three partitions begin at sda5...16:56
pepperjackLint01: lsmod lists all modules loaded16:56
panaggioLint01: there's no "Devide" Section?16:56
macvrNatanael_L: i have 1400 and i'm using the with th ati driver ,, and everything works fine.. give it a try16:56
stone1343i have a somewhat-unrelated question, does the overall 'net slow down noticeably days like today?16:56
Rolcolis the main server down?16:57
AslanManGuys, how can I mount ubuntu file system that reside on another HD logged in in another system on the same box but different HD inorder to access the other file system using shell as if I am actually logged in there?16:57
Lint01panaggio, there's only 1 device: "Configured video device"16:57
Natanael_LWhat happens if I just upgrade? That driver will get deactivated - but which will be used instead?16:57
hbekelracecar56: you just have to unload the currently loaded module before restarting X after having installed the new module16:57
SteffanxUpgrading too 9.04.. didn't go very well for me :(16:57
LeChacalsipior: that is what it looked like, but which partition is it extending off of? i am trying to figure out which partition i need so i can get ride of XP and put another version\disto of linux in its place.16:57
racecar56hbekel, oh16:57
racecar56ill try that16:57
hbekelracecar56: wether you do that before or after running setup is irrelevant16:57
mackk431aslanman did you check the grub files?16:57
Steffanxnow ubuntu hangs at startup (afther login) :(16:57
panaggioLint01: so you may reinstall you video driver16:57
racecar56hbekel, k16:58
racecar56hbekel, take 216:58
LeChacalsipior: reword which partition should i delete to get ride of windows xp but leave ubuntu and vista?16:58
uni4dfxstone1343: http://www.internettrafficreport.com/16:58
sipiorLeChacal: looks like sda1, then.16:58
AslanManmackk431: why?16:58
AslanManmackk431: what for?16:59
stone1343uni4dfx: interesting, thanks16:59
mackk431cause you asked about boot problems16:59
xcdfgkjhgcvShould I install an lpia kernel on my Atom Netbook? Does Ubuntu include an lpia kernel in the Jaunty repos?16:59
panaggioLint01: do you want to test the open source driver?16:59
uni4dfxstone1343: i don't really see a trend16:59
mackk431grub organizes the boot of ubuntu17:00
bdelin88pepperjack: still there dude17:00
LeChacalsipior: ok thank you, i am going into vista and see what it says, then delete it17:00
scott9876can someone help a newbie17:00
AslanManmackk431: oh sorry yes .. but I guess I'll know how to selve it better if I get my second question answered17:00
ubuntistassystem testing doesn't open17:00
Lint01panaggio, I have module called 'radeon'. is it that 'open-source driver'?17:00
scott9876I am trying to go from Hardy to Jackalope (skipping Ibex)17:00
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scott9876because it's buggy on my dell e150517:01
pronoy_macvr: does the command in rc.local work on bootup or during starting of the display manager17:01
pronoy_ ?17:01
panaggioLint01: nops. the ati driver is the opensource one17:01
stone1343uni4dfx: yeah, not yet17:01
macvrpronoy_: boot17:01
racecar56hbekel, bah humbug, ill just stuck with 180.4417:01
EagleScreenscott9876: it is supported17:01
pronoy_macvr: so i'll have to reboot...hmm.....ok..meet you in a sec17:01
panaggioLint01: purge the other drivers that may be installed (radeon, fglrx) and install (or reinstall) ati driver17:01
Natanael_Lbye17:01
TheDatawow 1708 users...17:01
uni4dfxstone1343: the problem is that canonical's server can't really handle enough traffic to make a difference, but if everyone used torrents i suspect we would notice it17:01
hbekelracecar56: if you're to stupid to do that, don't ask17:02
dekkongif I would like to stream media that uses windows media player. is it possible to do this with somekind of player in ubuntu?17:02
TheDatayes use torrents17:02
melkartubuntu just shipped with broken translations. what can i do to prevent this from happening again the next release?17:02
racecar56hbekel, it dosen't work17:02
eseven73Funny, that there's a Firefox update right on the same day Jaunty arrives, bad time to update it though :/17:02
stone1343uni4dfx: i'm gonna check later in the day... thanks again17:02
EagleScreenscott9876: look https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.0417:02
ubuntistassystem testing doesn't open17:02
uni4dfxTheData: can't really use torrents for upgrading (and no i'm not gonna try to break something with apt-p2p)17:02
racecar56hbekel, i don't really care about the version much... it's better to have an older working than a newer not-working17:03
the_dark_warrioIt seems the torrent page for jaunty is not updated17:03
Shadow_Samhi all... i'm on windows as host using virtual box with ubuntu 8.1. I'm trying to update softwares like firefox and apt-get as synaptic list a series of index not found. where I found a respository list to 8.1?17:03
the_dark_warriowhat is the torrent link?17:03
hbekelracecar56: whatever then17:03
Type3Singularitymelkart: Download a alpha/beta/release candidate and report it on the bug system (preferably before the RC since by then its often to late)17:03
Pici!torrents > the_dark_warrio17:03
ubottuthe_dark_warrio, please see my private message17:03
racecar56Shadow_Sam, im reversed17:03
jtholmeseseven73, they could not get it into the release so it is an upgrade today17:03
Hero-hi is 8.04 64 bit?17:03
eseven73ah17:03
CydeWeysWho's upgrading the largest concurrent number of computers to Ubuntu Jaunty right now?  I'm only doing 2.17:03
racecar56Hero-, it depends17:03
CydeWeysVirtual machines don't count!17:03
uni4dfxHero-: all of them come in a 64bit version17:03
eseven73makes sense, jtholmes  :)17:03
Hero-racecar56: on what?17:03
Shadow_Samracecar56: you are on ubuntu and windows cannot update?17:04
Hero-oh17:04
racecar56Hero-, what type you use17:04
racecar56Shadow_Sam, dingding17:04
melkartType3Singularity: you mean, i should do this again, every release?17:04
lanoxx!launchpad17:04
ubottuLaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/17:04
Hero-I installed/dl:ed the desktop version, it didn't ask about 64bit version17:04
racecar56Shadow_Sam, exactlu17:04
racecar56Shadow_Sam, exactly17:04
lanoxxis launchpad down?17:04
Hero-and uname -a dowesnt show almost anything17:04
Picilanoxx: Its experiencing some issues now.17:04
racecar56Hero-, if you want 64bit then its easy17:04
Hero-type?17:04
jtholmeseseven73, they stopp all updates to the candidates on either the 21st or 22nd and thus there are a few upgrades, i counted 5 this AM17:04
racecar56Hero-, www.releases.ubuntu.com17:04
uni4dfxHero-: uname -m should show what u need17:04
Shadow_Samracecar56: I just need to find (I think) the source list from ubuntu 8.10...17:05
Hero-uni: i68617:05
pronoymacvr: worked like a charm :) thanks17:05
uni4dfxHero: then you're using the 32bit version17:05
ubuntistasthe theme sucks and the system testing doesn't open17:05
macvrpronoy: np...17:05
pronoymacvr: now i need help with the usplash any ideas ?17:05
Hero-racecar: can one upgrade afterwards17:05
Hero-ack17:05
Hero-0r17:05
ejkAnybody here from Canonical?17:05
lanoxxPici, i see that, is it because of the release?17:05
macvrpronoy: whats the prob?17:05
lanoxxor some unrelated problem17:06
Type3Singularitymelkart: Chances of the same thing breaking again isn't to great, but you can find other bugs in things you use, the main thing would be to report it now17:06
harisundI am interested in trying out 9.04 in VirtualBox 2.2 on Windows host (all 32 bit) .. anything I should know ahead of time?17:06
Picilanoxx: I'm not sure, sorry.17:06
ocvubuntu sucks17:06
uni4dfxHero-: you wanna upgrade from 32 to 64bit?17:06
dekkongif I would like to stream media that uses windows media player. is it possible to do this with somekind of player in ubuntu?17:06
pronoymacvr: i tried installing a new one...doesn't work..tried reverting to a new one..doesn't work17:06
the_dark_warriotorrents links aren't working... maybe the server is too busy?17:06
yrlnryHi.  My desk machine is Ubuntu 8.04.   I just noticed that my laptop offered me the chance to upgrade to 9.04.  Why hasn't my desktop machine asked me if I want to upgrade to 8.10?17:06
Type3Singularityharisund, Enable the new 3d acceleration in 2.2 for compiz fun :)17:06
Hero-uni/racecar: I'm trying to donwload the intel c compiler and not sure which version to grab17:06
dooneryrlnry, Difference between LTS and non LTS versions17:07
commander_is every1 enjoying 9.0417:07
weather15Longer Support17:07
ubuntistasthe system testing doesn't open17:07
pronoydooner: lts : long time support17:07
ubuntistasany clue?17:07
uni4dfxHero-: any x86 version will do i suppose17:07
pronoydooner: long term support17:07
harisundType3Singularity: That's the next thing I wanted to ask ... are there any special openGL drivers I need to download? Earlier, it used to be "Software renderer" on VirtualBox but when I tried VirtualBox2.2 with Ubuntu 8.10, the renderer was some "chromium"17:07
yrlnryOh, so the desktop machine will suggest an upgrade to 8.10 eventually?17:07
racecar56yeah, me liking 9.04 as long as nvidia dosent screw me up17:07
Piciyrlnry: No, You'll have to change your options to have it suggest non-LTS releases.17:07
Piciyrlnry: Otherwise it won't offer anything until 10.04 or so.17:08
commander_i have intel graphics x3100.17:08
Hero-Product for IA-32/Intel(R) 64, Product for IA-32, Product for Intel(R) 64 or Product for IA-6417:08
macvrpronoy: u need to install the startup manager ... once that is installed , u can change back to the old usplash17:08
sidewalkcan i dist-upgrade my Ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 using the ubuntu iso, if for example mounting the iso?17:08
manpooleshould i install the new iso if i already have the rc?17:08
doonerpronoy,  sorry wasn't being clear. The reason why yrlnry wasn't getting the update was due to one being LTS and one not.. :)17:08
commander_try it w/Mac4Lin theme17:08
pronoymacvr: did that..no success17:08
minimecmanpoole: no17:08
dalton2345when why jaunty available?17:08
jtholmessidewalk yes17:08
yrlnrypici, dooner, thanks very much.  I will look into the details.17:08
commander_today17:08
Hero-is there an easy way to upgrade to 64 bit version?17:09
pronoydooner: OH i thought you were asking :D haha17:09
sidewalkjtholmes: how? :-)17:09
minimecmanpoole: you can also update an rc, if you want17:09
dalton2345yes how many hrs ago?17:09
uni4dfxHero-: not really17:09
Type3Singularityharisund: I think you need to install the VirtualBox guest addons17:09
macvrpronoy: dont u get the option in the manager for the old usplash?17:09
doonerpronoy, hehe.  Yeah I realized that. hence the clarification to my answer .. .17:09
dalton2345i was waiting all nite last nite17:09
commander_only if your pc have a 64 bit17:09
Shadow_Samanyone know where I find /etc/apt/sources.list updated?17:09
harisundType3Singularity: I did .. that's all I need to do, right?17:09
manpoolethink i already have17:09
MarfiCan't wait to start sharing!  =). Noticed the release when running an update17:09
stperewhere can I get the md5sum of the release?17:09
BoltClockwhen will update manager notify me of 9.04? it still says 8.1017:09
Type3Singularityharisund: afaik that should be it17:09
stperethe md5sum page on the site is outdated17:09
jtholmessidewalk, this shows u how http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading17:09
Hero-ok hmm17:09
harisundAlso, I recall getting a desktop with server mode installation was by doing apt-get install ubuntu-desktop .. what's the suggested way now? (server installation, need desktop)17:09
Type3SingularityBoltClock: try an 'apt-get update'17:09
pronoymacvr: yeah..i did...but no success ...i think i'll need to do it via the terminal.......what governs the usplash ? what file i mean >17:10
harisundThanks Type3Singularity :) Will check it out17:10
Type3Singularitynps17:10
mogul218_so is #ubuntu+1 shut down for good?17:10
ejkCanonical needs to add the 9.04 links to the BitTorrent page17:10
PiciBoltClock: What release are you running now?17:10
ubuntistassystem testing doesn't open17:10
BoltClockPici: 8.0417:10
frostburnmogul218, no17:10
defryskmogul218, there is always an ubuntu +117:10
BoltClockPici: or can i only get to 8.10 first?17:10
PiciBoltClock: Then you need to upgrade to 8.10 before you can go to 9.0417:10
HuufartedAnybody able to tell me the differences between Netbook and Desktop 9.04?  I can't see any differences on ubuntu.com17:10
macvrpronoy: not sure, i reverted by using the manager17:10
stone1343does anyone know, if I installed jaunty beta and have already done update-manager -d updates today, am I already at Final?17:10
ubuntistasany clue?17:10
uni4dfxejk: canonical did add the 9.04 torrent links17:10
Picimogul218_: The channel is closed until Karmic development gets started.17:10
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Type3Singularitystone1343: Yes, the final was the release 3days ago from the 20th17:11
pronoymacvr: actually i did it using the terminal... so i think i'll have to do it that way again17:11
nikki93Anyone here tried Arch Linux?17:11
ultimate89does ubuntu 9.04 support brother dpc printer?17:11
yrlnryThanks again folks.  I am completely content now.17:11
Pici!ot | nikki9317:11
ubottunikki93: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!17:11
ejkuni4dfx: I odn't see them on http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt17:11
defrysknikki93, yes17:11
Shadow_Samwell I just want to upgrade my 8.1 version. but my repository list as index not found... so... sugestions?17:11
BaconheartI upgraded to 9.04 and now xorg is taking up huge % of the CPU... any idas?17:11
leohartxi've just installed jaunty, but i cant set my resolution to 1280x96017:11
gafirHello, I'd like to know if there is a website that check the compatibility of your hardware and external devices with Ubuntu -- partly automated would be great, but if there's a website that centralizes all type of devices and their compatibility, it would be great17:11
gafirthanks17:11
leohartxi've just installed jaunty, but i cant set my resolution to 1280x960, how do i solve it ?17:11
stone1343Type3Singularity: thanks17:11
nikki93Woopsie. Meant to ask on #ubuntu-offtopic.17:11
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mellowsalve a tutti17:11
Pici!it | mellow17:12
ubottumellow: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)17:12
uni4dfxejk: here http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/jaunty/17:12
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Shadow_Sam:D found it. I think17:12
mellow!list17:12
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sipiorBaconheart: what do you mean by "huge", and what X Window programs are you running?17:12
MarfiHow in the world does the netbook version need 384 mb of ram, and the regular version needs 256...?17:12
BoltClockPici: in that case i think ill prefer a clean install because intrepid doesnt work properly. is there any way i can transfer my applications over as well and not just ~?17:12
mellow!bot17:12
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots17:12
jelly12genzomg ubuntu update!17:13
Baconheartsipior: just firefox/thunderbird... using from 35-99% of cpu all to XORG not firefox/thunderbird17:13
ejkuni4dfx: awesome, thanks! probably get more seeds if it was on the page I was looking at.17:13
stpereplease, somebody can point me to the hashsum (md5sum) of the new release??17:13
shadowlandCongratulations to all those involved in releasing Jaunty!  Good job :)17:13
PiciBoltClock: Not really, unfortunately.17:13
jacksparrowhey guys, the html title here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading is wrong!17:13
jelly12genstpere: google can do that17:13
uni4dfxejk: i agree17:13
melkartstpere: releases.ubuntu.com... the find the file MD5SUMS17:13
WorldBFreeis there a way to boot up the ubuntu iso directly from my hd, so i dont have to burn a disk17:13
racecar56usb flash drive17:13
mogul218jacksparrow it sure is17:13
racecar56if u have 117:14
melkartwiki.ubuntu.com/Installation17:14
BoltClockPici: aw :(17:14
RolcolTorrents are a very friendly way to get the .iso.  Less stress on the server17:14
harisundFolks, is apt-get install ubuntu-desktop still the way to go from a server edition to a desktop edition equivalent?17:14
WorldBFreewell, why cant i do the same thing from an hd partition, and boot the iso that way?17:14
shadowlandWorldBFree: No, not really.  If you want to try it, I think you can use Wubi and have the option to uninstall if you don't like it17:14
WorldBFreeive done it with other debian based distros17:14
defryskharisund, yes17:14
WorldBFreeim not talking about instaling it17:14
jacksparrowmogul218, but the content is new17:14
sipiorBaconheart: might try killing and restarting the server. is it mostly user space or kernel space?17:14
harisunddefrysk: thanks :)17:14
Type3SingularityMarfi: It also uses more harddrive space than Xubuntu (1.8g/2.1g), I just installed them both in virtual machines to work out which to stick on my eee17:14
sipiorBaconheart: the cpu usage, i mean.17:15
WorldBFreeim sure there is a way to mount the image through grub, with initrd and whatnot17:15
mindframe-what version of ruby is defaulted in 9.04?17:15
HuufartedAnybody know where I can find the differences between Ubuntu Desktop and Netbook?17:15
Type3SingularityI recommend Xubuntu for the netbook :)17:15
MarfiType3Singularity: Same. Thats what I used for my eee17:15
BoltClockPici: it looks like ill have to write down a list of things i do and apps i install so i can repeat the process at every clean install...17:15
ubuntistassystem testing doesn't open17:15
HuufartedBoltClock, stand by17:15
sipiorubuntistas: well, what sort of error do you see?17:15
Baconheartsipior: I've rebooted already didn't help.  cpu is 8%us, 97%id, right now (according to top)17:16
Type3SingularityHuufarted: Netbook has a differnet launcher and window manager17:16
ubuntistassipior program doesn't open17:16
ubuntistasat all17:16
sipiorBaconheart: "id" means "idle"17:16
usr13Is this current info on using iPhone with ubuntu 8.04?17:16
Type3Singularitymindframe-: --version give me 1.8.717:16
melkartWorldBFree: i think there might be a "fromiso" boot parameter17:16
Matr|Xmy ubuntu pc is crashed caz i install lamp-serv some thing went wrong with my sql 517:16
michisame here17:16
mindframe-thanks Type3Singularity :)17:16
HuufartedType3Singularity: any screenshots of it?17:16
Matr|Xhow i can fix evry thing agiain17:16
michimysql is broken17:16
Matr|Xyes.317:16
Matr|Xmysql17:16
HuufartedBoltClock: please see this link:  http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/howto-restore-all-installed-packages-in.html17:17
WorldBFreemelkart, thats exactly what im referring to17:17
Baconheartsipior: ah.  now xorg has winded down to 19%17:17
MarfiToo many people. =)17:17
Baconheartsipior: is this a driver issue?17:17
Matr|Xany help plz17:17
phxphun1Hello all.17:17
AzneradI have a raid system upgraded to 9.04 that won't boot up with out intervention - "#mdadm --assemble --scan; exit" resumes the startup - how to fix this?17:17
usr13I'm getting error that there are unmet dependencies when trying to install virtualbox-2.2. Depends:  libqt4-network libqtcore4 libqtgui417:17
phxphun1Any news on when Tracker will be fixed?17:18
Matr|Xevry time i come here and tell some one the problem they says its stringe17:18
Matr|Xplz help me17:18
sipiorBaconheart: no. 97%id means your processor is idle 97% of the time (roughly).17:18
firsmI tried installing ubuntu from the alternate cd now. md5sum is fine, burnt at 8x speed, the cd integrity check from the isolinux menu is fine to. but when it comes to installing packages, I get corrupted packages (all of them) after having installed 5 packages and dozens of I/O errors on sr0. Anyone experienced that? Is the SATA stack buggy for CD drives?17:18
usr13Any help with this issue will be greatly appreciated.17:18
Huufartedusr13: how are you going about isntalling it?17:18
JockyWilsonUbuntu9.04 Nvidia CHANGE resolution... gksu nvidia-settings and click on save FAILED TO PARSE (cannot save settings)17:18
sipiorBaconheart: in other words, i don't think there's a problem here.17:18
chazcoAnyone experiencing poor fonts on 9.04? msttcorefonts is installed, but websites dont render as they did in 8.1017:18
kane77is there any strategy game similar to caesar 3 available for ubuntu?17:18
Matr|Xhelloooooooooooooo17:18
jameswfWOW17:18
Type3SingularityHuufarted, http://www.ubuntumini.com/2008/10/installing-ubuntu-netbook-remix.html - personally I don't like it17:18
usr13Huufarted: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-2.217:18
jameswfHuufarted:17:19
BoltClockHuufarted: what does the second command do?17:19
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Matr|Xwhat is the command to test my ubuntu some thing crash17:19
albackerwhat was the latest way to run windows under ubuntu (i read it before a few days in ubuntuforum i can't refind it though). Something like VMWARE but faster.. thanks!17:19
HuufartedBoltClock read the entire article17:19
jameswfHuufarted: Also apt-get -f install17:19
HuufartedType3Singularity: thanks.  :)17:19
peeps[work]albacker, you mean virtualbox?17:19
Baconheartsipior: but it says xorg is taking up 82% of cpu right now.....confused17:19
Shad0wwwHello guys, does Ubuntu Netbook Remix works well on MSI Wind U100? P.S. ShipIt is down for me.17:19
Matr|XType3Singularity17:19
jimcooncatwhere to get info on software installation from .tar.gz package?17:19
albackerpeeps[work], maybe, i'm not even sure,17:19
albackerpeeps[work], i'll goole it up, and see if it was it.17:19
usr13Huufarted: Instructions from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone17:19
tom_hi17:19
JockyWilson Ubuntu9.04 Nvidia CHANGE resolution... gksu nvidia-settings and click on save FAILED TO PARSE (cannot save settings) ?17:19
harisundjimcooncat: which package are you installing? Chances are it is in the repository already17:19
tom_i just read the ext4 is solved in jaunty17:19
tom_is it now save to use ext4?17:20
Huufartedusr13, you can use apt-get install to install the dependencies, but it's odd that it doesn't install the dependencies along with it17:20
tom_i meant the ext4 bug17:20
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grawityjimcooncat: usually, you extract the files from .tgz (tar xvf someapp.tar.gz), go to the newly-created folder, and read the files "README" and "INSTALL".17:20
Shadow_Samstill not working... my ubuntu is BR version... :I17:20
usr13And got the link from  ubottu !iphone17:20
harisundubottu !iphone17:20
ubottuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod17:20
peeps[work]when did jaunty officially get released? can't believe I missed the party17:20
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jimcooncatharisund: pdf-edit on gutsy17:20
HuufartedType3Singularity: so the netbook version of Jaunty just includes netbook-launcher ?17:20
usr13But it says:   libqtgui4 (>= 4.4.3) but it is not installable17:20
albackerpeeps[work], that's probably it, ever tried vbox?17:20
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peeps[work]albacker, yes, i like it very much17:21
Hero-did anyone try intel compiler?17:21
albackerpeeps[work], does it run fast?17:21
usr13Huufarted: But it says:   libqtgui4 (>= 4.4.3) but it is not installable17:21
BoltClockHuufarted: permission denied trying to run the first command, but sudo is already there17:21
peeps[work]albacker, runs fast enough for me, never tried any benchmarks17:21
sipiorBaconheart: does it remain at 82% for long periods?17:21
BoltClockHuufarted: bash: /etc/package.selections: Permission denied17:21
albackerpeeps[work], and can i use fluxbox (not gnome), do you think it has to do anything ? any problem ? or no17:22
JockyWilsonfor the 3rd time ............ Ubuntu9.04 Nvidia CHANGE resolution... gksu nvidia-settings and click on save FAILED TO PARSE (cannot save settings)??????????/17:22
usr13Huufarted: Wonder if there's something wrong with virtualbox-2.2 ?  Wrong version or...?17:22
ubuntistassystem testing doesn't open at all17:22
peeps[work]albacker, when you get the guest OS installed, be sure to "add guest additions".  it will configure special drivers to make it run faster/better in the VM17:22
bin1010is launchpad.net having trouble today?17:22
jacksparrowyes17:22
Roman__Does anyone know how to change a .ogg file to a mp417:22
Shad0wwwHello guys, does Ubuntu Netbook Remix works well on MSI Wind U100? I have Realtek Wi-Fi card. jacksparrow: it is down.17:23
peeps[work]albacker, your window manager is irrelevant17:23
jacksparrowRoman__, mencoder17:23
jameswfbin1010: all *buntu servers will be kinda crap for the next week17:23
waanRoman__: there should be audio converting tools in the repository17:23
Baconheartsipior: stayed between 34-99 all morning17:23
albackerpeeps[work], ok thanks a lot. can i apt-get it or should i compile ?17:23
bin1010ah....I was wondering why I could ping it but not connect17:23
phxphun1Any info on tracker crashing on jaunty? I'd hoped it would be fic=xed by release, but apparently not :(17:23
cllaudyuhi i upgraded to ubuntu 9.04 but some packages didn't installed corectly... how can i fix this?17:23
peeps[work]albacker, just get it from repos17:23
Matr|X090423 12:23:26 [ERROR] /usr/sbin/mysqld: unknown option '--skip-federated'17:23
sipiorBaconheart: what sort of machine are you running on?17:23
Matr|X090423 12:23:26 [ERROR] /usr/sbin/mysqld: unknown option '--skip-federated'17:23
sipiorBaconheart: processor and speed, in this case17:23
albackerpeeps[work], sweet thanks. sorry for asking lots of questions :)17:24
Type3SingularityHuufarted: As far as I (and Wikipedia) can tell. Its listed as being optimized for atom processors, but I don't see how if its using the same binaries17:24
Matr|Xinvoke-rc.d: initscript apache2, action "start" failed.17:24
JockyWilson Ubuntu9.04 Nvidia CHANGE resolution... gksu nvidia-settings and click on save FAILED TO PARSE (cannot save settings)???????17:24
peeps[work]albacker, np17:24
Shad0wwwguys, does Ubuntu Netbook Remix works well on MSI Wind U100? I have Realtek wi-fi card.17:24
cllaudyuhi i upgraded to ubuntu 9.04 but some packages didn't installed corectly... is there a way to fix this?17:24
hemanthI'm doing a project on n/w's , eth1 is not working after kernel recompilation17:24
bin1010I wanted to answer this post at the bottom http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43634617:24
bin1010I think he can fix it by moving all the K0# down one and adding his "kill all java" script at K01.......Am I right?17:24
jameswf!details17:24
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."17:24
Matr|X * Starting MySQL database server mysqld                                                                                              [fail]17:25
Matr|Xinvoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed.17:25
Matr|Xdpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.0 (--configure):17:25
Matr|X subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 117:25
Matr|Xdpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mysql-server:17:25
FloodBot2Matr|X: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.17:25
jEns|afkwind u100 seems to have no problems17:25
Matr|X mysql-server depends on mysql-server-5.0; however:17:25
usr13Huufarted: This is the repo I was told to add:  deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian intrepid non-fre17:25
usr13Huufarted: Any ideas as to what could be wrong?17:25
Knirgh!pastebin | Matr|X17:25
ubottuMatr|X: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)17:25
GeckoHey, I need to understand something, the unr version's hardware support from netbooks is pressent in the normal version too, right?17:25
tanveeri have the the new ubuntu iso and i have mounted it on cdrom0 and nothing happens17:25
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cllaudyucan someone tell me how to remove obsolete packs?17:25
Huufartedusr13: Honestly, no.  When you use apt-get, the dependencies should come right along with it.  You ARE using 'sudo' aren't you?17:25
cllaudyucan someone tell me how to remove obsolete packs?17:25
Huufartedcllaudyu: sudo apt-get autoremove17:26
Huufarted!repeat | cllaudyu17:26
BoltClockHuufarted: ran the first command, i got bash: /etc/package.selections: Permission denied17:26
ubottucllaudyu: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience17:26
JockyWilsonUbuntu9.04 how do you change/save resolution settings17:26
pepperjack!fixres | JockyWilson17:26
Matr|Xhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/156611/17:26
ubottuJockyWilson: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution17:26
Matr|Xplz help me17:26
KnirghJockyWilson: go to #ubuntu+117:26
Matr|Xplz help me http://paste.ubuntu.com/156611/17:26
JockyWilson Ubuntu9.04 Nvidia CHANGE resolution... gksu nvidia-settings and click on save FAILED TO PARSE (cannot save settings)17:26
tanveer#ubuntu+117:26
HuufartedBoltClock, use sudo17:26
tanveer#ubuntu+117:26
BoltClockHuufarted: already used sudo17:27
tanveerdoesnt work17:27
jEns|afkhello, i have a o2-UMTS-Stick: icon210 and an up-to-date ubuntu, does somone know how i can install the stick(modem)?17:27
Knirghtanveer: /join #ubuntu+117:27
bin1010I have ubuntu 8.10...how long should I wait before I upgrade to 9.04?  when I upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 there was some change to /boot and the UUIDs that caused the machine to stop booting....don't want to go through that again  :)17:27
pepperjackubuntu+1 redirects here now.  jaunty is released17:27
JockyWilson Ubuntu9.04 Nvidia CHANGE resolution... gksu nvidia-settings and click on save FAILED TO PARSE (cannot save settings)17:27
hbekelJockyWilson: just edit your xorg.conf17:27
HuufartedBoltClock, then make sure the permissions on the file are right.17:27
Matr|Xplz help me http://paste.ubuntu.com/156611/17:27
trembyi have an old machine still running Gutsy, and i want to install a package. i can't upgrade because the net connection is so slow. but none the mirrors seem to have packages for it any more. do any exist?17:27
JockyWilsonFAILED TO PARSE17:27
sipiorJockyWilson: yeah, we heard you the fifth time.17:27
cllaudyuHuufarted i know about autoremove... i think if is a command for deleting files that remained from the previous ubuntu...17:27
Matr|Xhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/156611/17:27
tanveer /join #ubuntu+117:27
Matr|Xplz see my problem17:27
tanveer /join #ubuntu+117:27
FloodBot2tanveer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.17:27
majlapany one try upgrade of a wubi install ??17:27
jameswftanveer: this is #ubuntu+1 (sorta)17:27
BoltClockHuufarted: do i need to touch the file? it doesnt appear to exist17:28
sebsebsebmajlap: no  and you won't get Ext4 in a  upgrade wubi install17:28
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tanveerwell i need some help17:28
pepperjacktanveer: whats up?17:28
jameswf!ask | tanveer17:28
ubottutanveer: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)17:28
majlapusing ext2 in an ntfs file :)17:28
HuufartedMatr|X: look at line 9317:28
sebsebsebmajlap: also it's better to partition your hard disk for real, and maybe with the optional Ext4 file system, if setting up your partitions yourself.17:28
JockyWilsongksu nvidia-settings and click on save FAILED TO PARSE (cannot save settings)17:28
HuufartedMatr|X: that's your problem.17:28
pronoyok i am certified stumped with the usplash image of ubuntu !! and i desperately need help now17:28
sebsebsebmajlap: wubi uses Ext2?17:28
cllaudyuhow can i remove previous packages from ubuntu 8.10 ???17:28
HuufartedBoltClock, read ALL of the article.  It should tell you17:29
screamsayonaradoes anyone know how to make a 4th gen ipod nano work in amarok17:29
majlapneed windows on this laptop for work :(17:29
champainBefore I switched to Linux I used to used the network on windows a lot, can I connect to the same network on ubuntu?17:29
tanveeri have 8.10 i have downloaded the iso for 9.04 and i have mounted it g-iso then what?17:29
sipiorJockyWilson: are you trying to ask a question? if so, could you?17:29
sebsebsebcllaudyu: if you did an upgrade it should have suggested removing stuff17:29
Matr|Xso i want to fix it im newbe17:29
eternal_pquestion all...how can I re-set all my compiz settings back to defaults...which file(s) do I have to delete?17:29
HuufartedBoltClock: you do need to touch the file first17:29
pronoyok i am certified stumped with the usplash image of ubuntu !! and i desperately need help now17:29
GeckoHmm, the torrent file for 9.04 isn't on ubuntu.com Anyone got it?17:29
Shadow_Samthe files not found are from this path: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/ZGNqCJ17:29
HuufartedBoltClock: I don't know why, but the system will not let you > to some system files17:29
cllaudyuin my grub list they stil appear there17:29
pepperjack!torrents > Gecko17:29
ubottuGecko, please see my private message17:29
scuniziGecko: it's there17:29
albackerpeeps[work], since i dualboot, do you think it's possible to use mmy current windows installation with virtualbox ?17:29
Geckoscunizi: okay... Thanks :)17:30
Shadow_Samdamn... proxy... I think already fix that...17:30
bin1010ls17:30
meshuggah_out?17:30
bin1010!torrents >bin101017:30
SandGorgonhow do I check if the checksum of a CD is the same as the ISO ?17:30
peeps[work]albacker, i haven't tried that, but I think it is possible17:30
ubottubin1010, please see my private message17:30
wicopehi, please some tutorial for alsa-driver-1.0.19 and kernel 2.6.29-02062901-generic ?17:30
peeps[work]albacker, try #vbox17:30
JockyWilsonUBUNTU9.04 How do you save Nvidia settings >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  gksu nvidia-settings and click on save FAILED TO PARSE (cannot save settings) DOES NOT WORK17:30
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albackerpeeps[work], thanksyou17:30
Huufartedalbacker: dual boot and virtual box don't fit in the same sentance.  You can't use Virtualbox to simultaneously boot a second installation on the same harddrive as your Ubuntu installation17:30
pronoy!usplash17:30
ubottuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork17:30
jameswfSandGorgon: md5sum /dev/cdrom017:30
greencookiewhats the difference between server install cd and desktop install cd?17:30
dekkongJockyWilson: sudo nvidia-settings17:31
usr13Huufarted:  Virtualbox install problem:  http://pastebin.ca/140107917:31
SandGorgonjameswf, thanks17:31
meshuggah_greencookie, server and install17:31
jameswfgreencookie: no GUI17:31
pepperjackgreencookie: deskop= gui server = command line only17:31
meshuggah_greencookie, server and desktop*17:31
Huufartedgreencookie: desktop uses Gnome and server uses only CLI17:31
usr13Any clues?17:31
greencookiecool :D17:31
topriddyHope my favourite ubuntu guy is in hous e today?17:31
greencookieThanks a lot! ill get server D:17:31
Huufartedgreencookie: there are other differences as well17:31
Hasanibrahimhi, i want to make an advanted search in a folder filled with php files. How can i find some codes in php files ?17:31
scunizigreencookie: but you can put a gui on the server IF you want to17:31
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albackerHuufarted, i thought i could use the current windows i had (in the other partition). probably copy it to ~/ and use it with vbox17:32
greencookieHuufarted: yet i wanna customize the gui part17:32
oifzhozh##ubuntu-seeder17:32
greencookieHuufarted: yep*17:32
Huufartedgreencookie: the scheduler is different (don't know why) and I believe comes pre-installed with Apache, PHP, MySQL.  Don't quote me on that, but stuff like that.17:32
usr13Huufarted: Here are instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone17:32
theunixgeekHow can I install Jaunty without a CD?17:32
frankS2how do i upgrade from intrepid  to the latest version?17:32
jpdstheunixgeek: Use a USB?17:32
vvk-does anyone have a clue why xrandr -o left screws up my mouse cursor (no problems anywhere else)? I'm using the open source radeon driver (GPU is Mobility Radeon X1600) in 9.04.17:32
Hasanibrahimhi, i want to make an advanted search in a folder filled with php files. How can i find some codes in php files ? anybody help17:32
thalias09!torrents > thalias0917:32
ubottuthalias09, please see my private message17:32
theunixgeekjpds: links?17:32
Huufartedgreencookie: you can do that easily.  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop17:32
JockyWilsonDEKKOMG sudo nvidia-settings Failed to parse17:32
pepperjackgreencookie: i normally do a server install then apt-get a different kernel then apt-get install xserver-xorg fluxbox   as my starting point17:32
ethana2My mom's Inspiron 1525n with Intel X3100 is running Ubuntu 8.10..  Should I upgrade to 9.04?17:32
smurf_Maybe a noob question, but how do I install flash for Firefox?17:32
greencookiepepperjack: cool thanks17:32
jpds!info usb-creator | theunixgeek17:32
ubottutheunixgeek: usb-creator (source: usb-creator): Ubuntu USB desktop image creator. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1.16 (jaunty), package size 26 kB, installed size 556 kB17:32
sipiorJockyWilson: does it work if you use gksudo instead of gksu? there may be a problem with setting an environmental variable correctly.17:32
scunizigreencookie: Huufarted server gives you the choice of what you want to install.  It does not automatically install apache php etc.17:33
theunixgeekjpds: will it run on other distros?17:33
Huufartedethana2: my advice...  if it's not broken, don't fix it.17:33
topriddydayo: Hi, am Tope17:33
greencookiescunizi: thanks17:33
JohnTeddyTo have full disk encryption, do I need the alternative install? or will the regular install do it?17:33
jameswf!upgrade >frankS217:33
ethana2Huufarted: k17:33
ubottufrankS2, please see my private message17:33
scuniziJohnTeddy: alternate17:33
Huufartedethana2: if you have issues with wifi or the computer not shutting down fully, things like that, go to 9.0417:33
smurf_!flash17:33
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash17:33
JockyWilsonGKSUDO or SUDO nvidia-settings makes NO difference FAILED TO PARSE17:33
smurf_Never mind.17:33
greencookieso should I upgrade or clean install? i dun have anything important on hdd but just wondering if upgrade is equally good as clean install17:33
Huufartedsmurf_: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree17:33
sipiorJockyWilson: well, time to file a bug report, then.17:33
en|gmai need help here..17:34
en|gmahow to delete remote host key?17:34
commander_hey guys i need help. i got the beta version of 9.04 but when i download updates it tell me it can't getthe key or when i want to get the version reeased today?17:34
JockyWilsonhave to manually reset resolution every reboot17:34
amews_ajWhy does the netbook edition use more space than desktop ?17:34
greencookieen|gma: for ssh?17:34
Huufartedscunizi: thanks for that clarification on what server has.  :)17:34
jpdstheunixgeek: No, only Ubuntu desktop.17:34
scuniziJockyWilson: after enabling the nvidia restricted driver did you log out.. restart X and log back in again before trying nvidia-settings?17:34
en|gmagreencookie, yes.17:34
usr13!virtualbox17:34
ubottuvirtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox17:34
sipiorJockyWilson: what happens if you select resolution using the gnome screen resolution dialogue?17:34
scuniziHuufarted: np.. :)17:34
theunixgeekjpds: how can I install it in Fedora/17:34
theunixgeek?17:34
greencookieen|gma: u gotta open up ure 'known_hosts' file and delete the violating key. i think :D17:34
hbekelJockyWilson: move ~/.nvidia-settings-rc aside and try again, and check your xorg.conf17:34
yaaarhowdy17:35
officeen|gma, rm ~/.ssh/*17:35
office;p17:35
en|gmagreencookie, how to open known hosts in terminal?can you teach me the command?17:35
greencookieen|gma: find / -name "known_hosts"17:35
Huufartedtheunixgeek: this is the Ubuntu channel, not the Fedora channel.  Please join #fedora for questions about Fedora.17:35
Shadow_SamI think now go. I need to config synaptic proxy17:35
theunixgeekHuufarted: it's about Ubuntu. I want to install Ubuntu.17:35
jameswfen|gma: echo > .ssh/known_host17:35
greencookieen|gma: then vi into the path u see17:35
dalton2345u all happy with jaunty?17:35
theunixgeekHuufarted: the only way I can, though, is to use usb-creator17:35
yaaaranybody round here want to lend a hand installing 9.04 on software raid?17:35
Huufartedtheunixgeek: understood.  You want to install it over top of Fedora or dual boot with Fedora?17:35
greencookieor follow jameswf idea :D hee17:35
theunixgeekHuufarted: install it over Fedora17:36
TheData:-D17:36
Huufartedtheunixgeek: what type of PC is it?17:36
yaaarthe partition manager seems to be missing the raid/lvm volume options...17:36
Huufartedtheunixgeek: I assume it has no CD drive?17:36
frankS2its not possible to upgrade from intrepid to 9.04 yet?17:36
theunixgeekHuufarted: manufacturer or processor? i686, as far as I'm concerned. CD drive is broken :P17:36
U-b-u-n-t-ucan I upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04?17:36
scuniziyaaar: it's there on the alternate install not the live ce17:36
scunizi*cd17:36
frankS2U-b-u-n-t-u: i dont think so17:36
officefrankS2, its possible17:36
PiciU-b-u-n-t-u: You need to upgrade to 8.10 first.17:36
U-b-u-n-t-uok17:37
screamsayonarais it a good idea to buy someones iriver and put rockbox on it17:37
U-b-u-n-t-uty17:37
Huufartedtheunixgeek: my recommendation is to put another CD drive on a USB connection and boot from that.  BUT there are guides for isntalling Ubuntu over flash media17:37
mikebeechamHi guys..17:37
mikebeechamI'm wondering what would be the best way to network within Jackal 9.04:17:37
mikebeechamI have a Mac Mini downstairs, with an attached USB HDD. This contains all my media folders on there, such as movies, mp3s, tv shows, etc. I would like to be able to access these from my Ubuntu machine upstairs, and currently have both machines cabled to a Netgear DG834 router.17:37
mikebeechamPrior to installing Jackal, I was using GVFS (accessing as SFTP), and this worked kind of ok. However, I'm wondering is there is a more robust way to network the Mac to the Ubuntu machine.17:37
FloodBot2mikebeecham: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.17:37
officefrankS2, change repo, and dist-upgrade17:37
frankS2office: im running intrepid ATM17:37
amews_ajwhat is checksum for 9.04 ?17:37
axsd9dtheunixgeek: did u check ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix??17:37
vorian!fact17:37
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about fact17:37
theunixgeek!flooding | mikebeecham17:37
ubottumikebeecham: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)17:37
scuniziscreamsayonara: do you want an iriver.. if you do then yes.. up to you17:37
pepperjackscreamsayonara: /join #ubuntu-offtopic but yes rockbox is very nice firmware17:37
frankS2office: what repos shall i use?17:37
Matr|Xthe same problem guys17:37
JohnTeddyWc17:37
theunixgeekHuufarted: I don't have a USB CD drive, and those are reeeealllly expensive here17:37
okanasikHi there, just downloaded 9.04 from torrent. I burned it to a cd. Booting it..menu shows up.. i hit install, and it gives a Boot CD error ..17:37
tanveerwhen i mount the 9.04 iso what do i do then?17:37
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axsd9dtheunixgeek: did u check ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix??17:37
yaaarscunizi, hmmm...the alternate installer disc page doesn't seem to have anything for 9.04...has that not been made yet?17:37
Huufartedtheunixgeek: got a IDE - USB adapter?  It will work equally as well17:38
tanveernothing about upgrade comes up17:38
okanasikcan anyone help me out ?17:38
usr13okanasik: Sure17:38
Huufarted!ask okanasik17:38
theunixgeekaxsd9d: no; is it installable from a USB drive? (I'm guessing it's yes)17:38
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ask okanasik17:38
scuniziyaaar: should be.. let me see if I can find it.17:38
Huufarted!ask | okanasik17:38
theunixgeek!anyone | okanasik17:38
ubottuokanasik: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)17:38
ubottuokanasik: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?17:38
axsd9dyes17:38
JockyWilsonok Xorg tweaked rebooting :-D17:38
okanasiki already asked :P scroll up :P17:38
sbasuitamikebeecham, set up a samba server on your mac, then use CIFS to access it from ubuntu17:38
axsd9dits downloadable in .img17:38
Baconheartsipior: apollogies for the delay i butchered my xorg config... it's an AMD opteron of some kind, 2gig RAM17:38
usr13Huufarted: You forgot the pipe17:39
theunixgeekaxsd9d: I'll learn more about it; from there, can I install the full version just by apt-get installing ubuntu-desktop?17:39
Huufartedusr13: I retyped it17:39
frankS2what sources shall i use for update from intrepid to 9.04?17:39
mikebeechamsbasuita: sorry mate....is there a wiki for that kind of thing?  I've not heard of CIFS?17:39
okanasikokanasik: Hi there, just downloaded 9.04 from torrent. I burned it to a cd. Booting it..menu shows up.. i hit install, and it gives a Boot CD error ..17:39
sbasuita!cifs | mikebeecham17:39
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about cifs17:39
mikebeechamand the folders are shared by samba17:39
sbasuita!samba | mikebeecham17:39
slmichalkIs anybody having problems getting the live CD to do anything?17:39
ubottumikebeecham: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.17:39
axsd9dmaybe a fresh install?17:39
sipiorBaconheart: no worries. what sort of video card?17:39
theunixgeek!anyone | slmichalk17:39
ubottuslmichalk: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?17:39
nicklas_something wrong with launchpad?17:39
tanveer...17:39
Baconheartsipior: i now only have a terminal window open and xorg is at 18% cpu17:39
theunixgeeknicklas_: seems like it17:39
KingKimiikonia, SUCCESS ! i installed ubuntu to F drive... and its perfectly working and also have xp SAFE this time :P17:39
sbasuitamikebeecham, CIFS is "common internet file system" - basically it's what you mount the samba share as under ubuntu17:39
vixeynicklas_: I think so, it's not loading for me17:40
KingKimiikonia, :D :D :D :D :D :D :D17:40
Baconheartsipior: donno, on-mobo ati of some kind17:40
sbasuitamikebeecham, it supercedes using smb on linux17:40
officefrankS2, http://anotherugly.wordpress.com/my-ubuntu-904-jaunty-jackalope-sourceslist-32-and-64-bit/17:40
mikebeechamsbasuita: all the folders on the mac are shared through SMB17:40
mattyHow can i enable the new Jaunty notification System with Rythmbox?17:40
mikebeechamso theoretically, it's all there17:40
theunixgeekaxsd9d: I don't have an Intel Atom processor :/17:40
ubuntistasi  have jaunty and my internet radio plugin doesn't play17:40
sbasuitamikebeecham, yes, so you access them from ubuntu by editing /etc/fstab and adding an entry with you'r mac's hostname, and setting the filesystem as cifs17:40
racecar56i love how 99% of the time things that i delete in windows are files called "desktop.ini"17:40
tanveeri dont get the opportunity to upgrade using the CD when i've mounted it ?why??17:40
ubuntistasand system testing doesn't work17:40
mattyHow can i enable the new Jaunty notification System with Rythmbox?17:41
sebsebsebubuntulog: system testing???  and which internet radio site?17:41
scuniziyaaar: on this page http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate17:41
mikebeechamsbasuita: oh man...this is going to be another 'linux' monebt, I can see!17:41
axsd9dstill i guess it should work fine..17:41
mikebeechammoment**17:41
* KingKimi got real ubuntu with 17 gb in root.. ! and is very very very happy :D :D :D :D 17:41
slmichalkI can't get the jaunty live cd to load. it goes to the menu, but freezes when i hit install...17:41
scuniziyaaar: use the torrent and it will be much faster17:41
axsd9di've not tried it yet.17:41
okanasikjust downloaded 9.04 from torrent. I burned it to a cd. Booting it..menu shows up.. i hit install, and it gives a Boot CD error ..17:41
sbasuitamikebeecham, nah, takes 30 seconds ; )17:41
sebsebsebslmichalk: did you md5sum the CD?   did you  burn it slowly?17:41
sebsebseb!md5sum17:41
ubottuTo verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more17:41
okanasikwhat should i do now? i burned it at lowest speed17:41
weather15Torent slower for me17:41
slmichalkyes I did.17:41
theunixgeekokanasik: then there's a problem with your download; check the integrity17:41
usr13okanasik: What error?  It does not boot?17:41
sipiorBaconheart: you upgraded this machine today? do you happen to recall typical cpu usage from before?17:41
theunixgeekweather15: not enough seeders yet17:41
doc``is it safe to upgrade just from the package manager?17:41
mikebeechamsbasuita: `if you know what you're looking for....can I just access via 'network'?  would that do the same thing?17:41
weather15Try doing an md5 checksum17:42
usr13okanasik: We can not help you get a good CD.  Only you can do that.17:42
sbasuitamikebeecham, sort of - but it wouldn't mount it every time you booted17:42
tanveer.............17:42
yaaarscunizi...that's the page i was at...but it only has 8.10 and 8.04. Am I missing something here?17:42
slmichalkima try unetbootin next I think.17:42
Shadow_Samyes. updating :D17:42
rodolfoguys do you know how i can increase the speed of my wireless network adapter? It's about atheros' performance17:42
slmichalkFor some reason USB boot tends to be more stable than CD boot.17:42
usr13okanasik: I mean... someone could mail you one or something like that, but other than that, I don't know.17:42
mikebeechamsbasuita: ok...can I add it to fstab by using IP addy?17:42
scuniziyaaar: I just noticed that.. if you copy and past the link you can edit it.. replace the 8.10 reference with 9.0417:42
sbasuitamikebeecham, yes17:42
Baconheartsipior: i dont remember before seeing xorg so high, and the proformance was nice and fast, now quite laggy, yes upgraded today17:43
officemikebeecham, sshfs17:43
BoltClockif i do a clean install, is it advisable to split my disk into two partitions, one with my existing install and one with jaunty, copying files and installing packages over, and checking before trashing the old partition?17:43
mikebeechamok..will look now...you might have me back on in a sec?17:43
scuniziyaaar: they may be working on updating the web page still17:43
officemikebeecham, u can mount sshfs17:43
okanasikusr13:  ok mate thanx..i'm going to write again but i only got one cd left :P17:43
mikebeechamsbasuita: sshfs?17:43
sbasuitamikebeecham, search for 'cifs' on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab17:43
weather15Downloading since 9.04 came out and 4 and a half hours left17:43
okanasikusr13:  btw, cd's are just fine..maybe the torrent i downloaded has some problems17:43
mikebeechamoffice sshfs?17:43
sbasuitamikebeecham, only useful if you really need encryption17:43
mikebeechamhuh?17:43
majlap!ot17:43
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!17:43
usr13okanasik: What CD burning software are you using?17:43
okanasikusr13:  cdxburner or smoething like that17:43
weather15There are pluenty of free iso burners17:44
dayotopriddy: hi17:44
okanasikyep its free one17:44
sipiorBaconheart: might check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if X is really using the driver you want it to be using.17:44
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defrysktry burning it at a lower speed17:44
officemikebeecham, yes17:44
theunixgeekI want to install Ubuntu from a flash drive. I'm not running Ubuntu at the moment. Where can I get more information about installing Ubuntu from a USB drive?17:44
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sipiorBaconheart: or try the old xorg.conf, if you have a backup17:44
usr13okanasik: What is the exact error you see on the screen?  Is it just not a bootable CD when you get done?17:44
mikebeechamoffice sorry mate, but I dont understand?  fairly new linux user here17:44
scuniziyaaar: just tried that and it works17:44
KingKimiwhats the diff between ext 2 3 and 4 ?17:44
okanasikusr13:  Boot cd error17:44
U-b-u-n-t-uwould it be better for me to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 then to 9.04 or just do a fresh install of 9.04?17:45
decoare there torrents for the new 9.4 distro? the ftp servers are full17:45
okanasikusr13:  this is the exact error17:45
usr13okanasik: Don't just do the same thing again with the same software, you will [probably] only waste your last CD.17:45
okanasikusr13:  can i burn it to my usb stick ?17:45
topriddyI need a better wireless applet for my ubuntu that can searching for wireless network automatically in the are and allow for easy selection17:45
jameswfI see no ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.jigdo17:45
KingKimiare 904 cds sent for Free ?17:45
jameswf:(17:45
officemikebeecham, what you want mount via netowrk ?17:45
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usr13okanasik: Yes, that is an option...17:45
slmichalkokanasik, yes you can.17:45
officemikebeecham, ubuntu iso image ?17:45
dayotopriddy: try wicd17:45
okanasikoh let me try that one its wiser :P17:45
usr13!usb17:45
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent17:45
KingKimiare 904 cds sent for free like 80 ?17:45
KingKimi*81017:45
slmichalkget a program called unetbootin and you can boot from usb stick17:45
scuniziKingKimi: yes17:45
okanasikusr13:  thanx a lot for the help17:46
usr13okanasik: Just a sec...17:46
KingKimiscunizi, B-)17:46
mikebeechamoffice I think you jumped into a completely different conversation.  I'm discussing the networking of a mac and a linux machine together17:46
Pici!shipit | KingKimi17:46
ubottuKingKimi: shipit is <Reply> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu and Kubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org - Shipit will send Jaunty (9.04) CDs17:46
jameswf!shipit > KingKimi17:46
ubottuKingKimi, please see my private message17:46
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Jordan_Ujameswf, You can't use jigdo for liveCD images, the way jigdo images are built simply isn't compatible with LiveCD images17:46
KingKimihow many times the same !shipit ? :P17:46
officemikebeecham, you cant do this17:47
officemikebeecham, must install sshd server at mac machines17:47
topriddydayo: Ur name sounds like your from my side(Yoruba), and am guessing your on Ubuntu, want to chat a lil?17:47
jameswfJordan_U: argh oh well atleast torrent has a butt load of seeders17:47
KingKimiwhy doesnt ubuntu come with vlc ?? :(17:47
Baconheartsipior: my xorg.conf is blank now,  and i don't have an backup17:47
harisundIf I edit the sudoers file to allow me to execute sudo without password, will I stop receiving those annoying dialog boxes with the screen getting a darker shade and all?17:47
rskiKingKimi: you can install it easily.17:47
theunixgeekKingKimi: licensing stuff17:47
mikebeechamoffice.  I've been doing it through GVFS for around 6 months now!17:47
dayotopriddy: yeah, i am. but this is a support channel.17:47
Baconheartsipior: am i looking for anything in particulouar in the xorg.log ?17:47
KingKimitheunixgeek, ok17:47
mikebeechambut it's not 100& reliable17:47
KingKimirski, i know17:47
theunixgeekKingKimi: open terminal, type sudo apt-get install vlc and enter your password17:48
usr13okanasik: That is all the info I have for you.17:48
dayoot! | topriddy17:48
majlapKingKimi, because they woried about patents and etc.17:48
officemikebeecham, and now you can youse sshfs to mouint mac disk on ubuntu17:48
BoltClockif i do a clean install, is it advisable to split my disk into two partitions, one with my existing install and one with jaunty, copying files and installing packages over, and checking before trashing the old partition?17:48
jameswfKingKimi: there is a difference between Free and Free17:48
rskiKingKimi: is that really a big issue if you can install it in 10seconds?17:48
KingKimitheunixgeek, i know17:48
okanasikusr13:  ok, i appreciate it thanx again bye17:48
KingKimitheunixgeek, my question is on WHY17:48
KingKimirski, it isnt.17:48
theunixgeekKingKimi: again, licensing troubles17:48
pepperjackBoltClock: if you have the space it cant hurt.  i normally recommend /home on a seperate partition too17:48
pace_t_zuluthe repos are slow17:49
pace_t_zulusurprise surpris17:49
jeanpaul145Hi everyone17:49
theunixgeekKingKimi: it plays MP3s, which are only playable under certain licenses from a media foundation that requires expensive royalties, as far as I understand it17:49
rskiKingKimi: well suggest what they should remove from the liveCD to make space for vlc17:49
officemikebeecham, or you can use sftp to thesame effect17:49
sipiorBaconheart: you're looking for errors (EE), warnings (WW) and information that shows that the driver knows which card it is running.17:49
rskiim sure they are listening if you have a better idea17:49
officemikebeecham, http://www.stocksy.co.uk/articles/Mac/ssh_on_mac_os_x/17:49
KingKimirski, totem :P :P17:49
jeanpaul145what has happened to launchpad? Is the server dead?17:49
sv_osusr1hi all.looking for a x11 magnifier which takes user input.Something like the compiz magnifier, but not built into the window manager .17:49
rskiKingKimi: so suggest it then17:49
KingKimirski, how  ? :D17:49
Brack10is there some way to check whether dpkg is frozen up?  It's been installing this package foreer17:49
jameswfrski: VLC not gpl compatible17:49
rskiKingKimi: launchpad.net17:49
dayotopriddy: brb17:50
rskijameswf: um. why not17:50
KingKimirski, from that link ?17:50
sipiorsv_osusr1: have a look at "xmag", might do what you want.17:50
KingKimirski, that doesnt have any to suggest :(17:50
jameswfrski because it is free but not free... codecs17:50
rskiKingKimi: what?17:50
test3rI love *BUNTU!!!!! I will look through the websites to find my answer about upgrading First (to upgrade FF first, or, just upgrade to 9.04)?17:50
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mikebeechamoffice how is ssh/ssfd different from SMB in terms of what I want to accomplish?17:50
scunizisv_osusr1: look in System/preferences/Assistive technologies.. I think there's one there.17:50
KingKimirski, how to suggest from that link ?17:50
sv_osusr1sipior:thanks.17:50
rskijameswf: just include it without the w32codecs then17:50
yowshigaaah i think i got disconned from the archive17:50
rskiKingKimi: if you dont know i wont learn you how17:50
erkuserdemhi friends im a new user of ubuntu, i like it for now but i have a problem, my internet is too slow :(  what do you think about this ?17:50
pace_t_zuluI am doing my part by providing unlimited seeding of 9.04 desktop and server i386 and amd64 from my super fast university connection17:50
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KingKimirski, thanks very much >.< :X17:51
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brutusanyone familiar with sox? I get this problem with the command 'play xxx.mp3': play formats: no handler for file extension `mp3'17:51
jameswf!mp317:51
rskifuck off i said where im noy going to babysit you17:51
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats17:51
weather15FTP so slow16 kb a second17:51
rskinot*17:51
Roman__I need to figure out how to change a .ogg video file to a mp417:51
KingKimijameswf, define "free and free" :( :(17:51
dayorski: language17:51
sipiorrski: courtesy, sir.17:51
rskidayo: soil17:51
KingKimirski, :X17:52
pace_t_zuluso i guess #ubuntu+1 forwards here then... anyone know when it will be back up?17:52
scuniziRoman__: not sure but you might want to check out OpenMovieEditor17:52
jameswfKingKimi: There is Free as in beer, Free beer tomorrow, and free as in Freedom... see http://fsfe.org/documents/freesoftware.en.html17:52
Roman__Does anyone know how to convert a .ogg video file into a mp417:53
torporhiya folks17:53
rskipace_t_zulu: probably when the toolchain is uploaded17:53
KingKimijameswf, thanks !17:53
ahoxHi, my new jaunty crashes my box after I installed the fglrx drivers from repo. I found that the ati 9.4 and 9.3 does not work with the xorg 7.4. Is there some other way of getting a multihead? or some bugfix?17:53
weather15Really is ubuntu 9.04 a major inprovement from 8.10?17:53
SandGorgonguys.. is it safe to use ext4 now ?17:53
sipiorbrutus: probably just need an mp3 library installed.17:53
torporanyone got some time to help me with an ATI Radeon HD/3650 + AMD64 driver issue?17:53
rskiweather15: We can not decide for you.17:53
happosadeDo anyone know why they reset that stats from http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 like every hour?17:53
torpori've installed 9.04 and the ATI drivers but I just get garbage onscreen17:53
ubuntistasupdate manager doesn't load17:53
Polterge|styeah, is it safe to upgrade to the final release of Ubuntu 9.04 ?17:53
rskiweather15: That you have to discover for yourself.17:53
Mariappanhai17:53
Polterge|stor are the FS bugs still there17:53
pace_t_zulurski: toolchain? could you elaborate? perhaps provide a link where i can read up on toolchain?17:53
jameswfSandGorgon: I formatted a thumbdrive as ext4 and it started to levitate...17:53
KingKimiMariappan, HI !17:53
scuniziahox: I just read that with jaunty that is one of the regressions... some ati cards broke17:53
rskipace_t_zulu: toolchain is stuff like glibc gcc etc.17:54
Mariappanhai Kingkimi17:54
SandGorgonjameswf, ha ha ... i was thinking more in terms of delayed allocations17:54
dokurois today the day of the book ?17:54
torporscunizi: where did you read that?17:54
topriddyI need a better wireless applet for my ubuntu that can searching for wireless network automatically in the are and allow for easy selection17:54
alienkiddontzap gives "command not found" running junty17:54
Baconheartsipior: only WW i see is "RADON(0): Direct rendering disabled"17:54
alienkid*jaunty17:54
pace_t_zulurski: how does that affect #ubuntu+117:54
torpori have a Radeon HD 385017:54
jameswftopriddy: NetworkManager17:54
rskipace_t_zulu: before it isn't done there wont be any #+1 that's how17:54
sipiorBaconheart: well, that would explain the higher cpu usage, certainly.17:54
test3rHi I'm running 8.10 on AMD box w/gForce : Should I upgrade Firefox first, and then upgrade to 9.04? Or will simply upgrade to 9.04 work?17:54
racecar56ubuntu's us archive is down?17:54
VECPU1Where can I find a torrent download for 9.10?17:54
scunizitorpor: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Linux-and-Open-Source/Ubuntu-904-the-Jaunty-Jackalope-Sports-Modest-Software-Improvements-But-Big-Plans-535187/17:55
brutussipior, what library is this specifically?17:55
VECPU19.04*17:55
torporracecar56: seems like it.17:55
ahoxso does the radeonhd driver support multihead?17:55
racecar56torpor, odd17:55
torporscunizi: thaknks17:55
rskitest3r: dosen't matter17:55
happosadetest3r: I think that there is no difference17:55
alienkidhow come dontzap isn't found in jaunty?17:55
pace_t_zulurski: what sort of updates need to made to the toolchain?17:55
jeanpaul145alienkid: you need to install it first.17:55
test3rrski: happosade: OK TY just wanted to be sure.17:55
alienkidI want to run dontzap --disable17:55
quibblertest3r, firefox is updated when you install 9.17:55
torporanyone got a Radeon HD 3650?17:55
quibbler9.0417:55
test3raaaa OK17:55
Baconheartsipior: so, any idas on resolving it?17:55
WebuVECPU1, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ is the way to go though I've also got a collection backed up at http://www.verkkojohto.net/jaunty/ :-)17:55
ahoxtorpor: I have an 3600 series17:56
racecar56torpor, it is..... weird17:56
rskipace_t_zulu: none in particular. they just need to make the new toolchain before the channel is started again. i guess i can't explain it more clearly, sorry.17:56
leohartx1i've just installed jaunty, but i cant set my resolution to 1280x960, how do i solve this ?17:56
Miffentropsoouhm.. does anyone have a mirror for the win32-image-writer tool? Can't reach launchpad :(17:56
prmrIs there a Netbook Remix torrent anywhere?17:56
sipiorbrutus: try grabbing "lame", that should pick it up en passant.17:56
torpor'tis very frustrating .. if i have to go buy another card, what should i get?17:56
Ahmuckspanish ?17:56
Pici!es | Ahmuck17:56
ubottuAhmuck: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.17:56
torporalso in the meantime how do i get just plain o'l X working on my card, 2D mode?17:56
VECPU1Webu: thanks a bunch. is anyone in this channel in charge of maintaining the main site? it's worth mentioning that there is no updated link for 9.04 anywhere (only old versions)17:56
dokuroamd 480017:56
dokuroor ATI 480017:57
ljuwaidahvery quick question guys17:57
rskiplease dont ask to ask17:57
torporhow can i reconfigure X to just use the 2D driver (which used to work before I tried to get 3D working)17:57
pace_t_zulurski: no worries... thank you for letting me know that the toolchain is relevant17:57
ljuwaidahwhere is the 32bit gcc located on the 64-bit distro?17:57
dokurojejej17:57
TheDataexcactly17:57
WebuVECPU1, no problem at all, unfortunately I don't really know about that - some people have mentioned that torrent link problem on the main site though :-S17:57
Ahmuckitialian ?17:57
alienkidI can install anything in synpatic! Or update the package list.17:57
alienkidit just hangs17:57
brutussipior, ok thanks i'll check it out17:57
torporhow can i reconfigure X to just use the 2D driver (which used to work before I tried to get 3D working)17:58
natsukashiI guess this question has been asked a few time since the release. But still, is it possible to upgrade to 9.04 through the command line? So I won't have to reformat my drive17:58
ljuwaidah*version17:58
sikor_sxei have an intel i945 gfx chip in my laptop. is updating to jaunty recommended then? i read there are bad regressions with the intel driver17:58
scunizitorpor: sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the driver line then replace the "nvidia" or whatever with the name of the generic driver you want . nvidia=nv ati=?17:58
torpornatsukashi: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade17:58
natsukashithanks17:58
scunizitorpor: vesa17:58
KIAazeHello, is it normal that the checksum here: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ is different from the one here: http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/MD5SUMS for ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso ?17:58
VECPU1Webu: yeah, it's a real bummer -- because today's the day it /really/ should have the link.17:58
KIAazewhich one is the official torrent?17:58
WebuVECPU1, exactly indeed :-S17:58
ljuwaidahno one knows?17:58
TheDatahttp://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/17:58
linko47UBUNTU RELEASE DAY!!!!17:59
sipiorBaconheart: might see if the new gnome display dialogue allows you to enable hardware acceleration there. maybe also see if a better driver is available.17:59
Miffentropdoes anyone have a mirror for the win32-image-writer tool? Can't reach launchpad :(17:59
rodolfowhat file should I look for to remove one specific driver from blacklist?17:59
KIAazeand what about the different checksums?17:59
dekkongif I would like to stream media that uses windows media player. is it possible to do this with somekind of player in ubuntu?17:59
VECPU1dekkong: have you tried VLC?17:59
sipiorBaconheart: search using your preferred apt interface.17:59
ljuwaidahI'll come back later17:59
markeoI love release days. Getting harder and slower to get in on dist upgrades on the ground floor though heh17:59
scunizidekkong: vlc streams with multiple codecs17:59
torpori guess i'm going to go back to ubuntu 8.10 for now17:59
quibbler!it | Ahmuck18:00
ubottuAhmuck: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)18:00
VECPU1!VLC | dekkong18:00
ubottudekkong: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs18:00
topriddyI need to be able to log in with my root account from the log-in screen . How do I do that???18:00
saaahi18:00
slmichalkWhere can i find jaunty's md5 hash?18:00
pronoyi installed the realplayer and i can't access it .......had a binary file for installation18:00
natsukashitorpor: ... It didn't upgrade.18:00
saaalooking for a french motherlang to check for a translation18:00
torportopriddy: first make sure you have a root password18:00
Picisaaa: Try #ubuntu-fr18:00
torpornatsukashi: there is more to it than that .. but do a search for "apt-get dist-upgrade" and you will find the wiki data18:01
markeotopriddy: log in as your user, sudo to root, passwd, enter you password, then you will be able to log in as root.18:01
racecar56O_o so we see.. launchpad AND us.archive.ubuntu.com have died...18:01
racecar56odd18:01
natsukashitorpor: Aha, thanks18:01
Baconheartsipior: well the "hardware drivers" applet says "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system"...18:01
sipiortopriddy: dangerous running X as root. it's generally considered bad practise. maybe another way to do what you want?18:01
markeotopriddy: That's a really silly thing to do though, why MUST you log in directly as root?18:01
slmichalkWhere can i find jaunty's md5 hash?18:01
pronoyhelp with realplayer here please18:01
italomaiahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes <= needs update!!18:01
torporslmichalk: on the main servers18:01
fuzzhi guys, i think i got stuck18:02
peace_pronoy: you don't need of  realplayer18:02
alienkidwhy can't I refreash the package list install packages or update in Jaunty?18:02
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XPS_M1330say, if have 300 instances of gwenview opened, how can shut them all at once?18:02
sipiorBaconheart: were you using a proprietary driver before?18:02
topriddymarkeo: Its my netbeans IDE, the j2me requires some root privileges. Dont want to bother myself with security issues/ assigning privs.18:02
torporXPS_M1330: killall gwenview18:02
peace_XPS_M1330: pkill program18:02
cnus8nslmichalk, MD5SUMS - http://ftp.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/pub/linux/ubuntu/releases/jaunty/MD5SUMS18:02
pronoypeace_: i can't access the w32 codecs right now ..so i need realplayer to play rmvb file18:02
racecar56italomaia, i noticed that with 8.10 back when 8.10 was released :P18:02
BoltClockpepperjack: when i install jaunty in that manner, what does grub do?18:02
peace_pronoy: vlc18:02
rulliehi, so how's JJ's stability?18:02
fuzzi checked some remote login thing by accident and now when i load the X it just wants to connect to someone else's pc and it wont login to my own desktop anymore18:03
pronoypeace_: rmvb not supported by vlc !!!18:03
italomaiaracecar56, 8.10 hash are there...18:03
slmichalkthanks18:03
fuzzhow fked is that?!18:03
natschilhi, does anyone have jaunty working with fglrx and an ati x1250 card (integrated) ? I'm about to upgrade to jaunty, so I was wondering whether there's anything I should know about jaunty and ati cards18:03
markeotop: just as long as you're aware that you're circumventing a security rule that's there for a very very good reason.  I'd take the time to find the workaround, but that's me18:03
Baconheartsipior: i believe so, but i can't say for 100% sure18:03
racecar56italomaia, no... im saying back when 8.10 was new the hash wasn't there18:03
whatteyhow come  /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-server/volatile shows up when i do df -h? afaik nothing in there i need ;o18:03
peace_pronoy: then wait and install w32stuff18:03
italomaiaah, ok18:03
racecar56italomaia, i reported the bug18:03
italomaiathnx = ]18:03
racecar56italomaia, and they (of course) fixed it18:03
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markeotopriddy: I'm assuming you've tried launching it with gksudo, so good luck18:03
Kemeroswhat are the alternate versions in the torrent tracker?18:04
jackstrawis there a good program to fileshare music other than limewire?18:04
pronoypeace_: oh cmon...if you can't help with realplayer..then stop advising different stuff........18:04
italomaiacould someone tell me the md5sum for jaunty 64bits?18:04
chillitomhas anyone noticed reduced graphics performance with Intel gfx and 9.04?18:04
atomikuUnrelated question: are there any decent online thesauruses out there? All the ones I found are crap18:04
fuzzi checked some remote login thing by accident and now when i load the X it just wants to connect to someone else's pc and it wont login to my own desktop anymore...18:04
torpornatschil: so far my ATI and ubuntu experience has been positively *NEGATIVE*18:04
cnus8nitalomaia, check this out http://ftp.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/pub/linux/ubuntu/releases/jaunty/MD5SUMS18:04
topriddymarkeo: Thanks for the tip. But really, am sure I can manage the root power. Its an offline system. Thanks. I also just downloaded codebreaker IDE for C++ dont know how to install it18:04
Chousukechillitom: I think it was mentioned in the errata18:05
solexious|netbkIs it possible to have netbook remix but remove the giant program selector?18:05
italomaiacnus8n, thnx!! cace6ea9dde8dc158174e345aabe3fae18:05
torporchillitom: for the beta, intel graphics sucked.. but i just put NBR on my Aspire One and finally I have Direct Rendering (acceleration) for 3D graphics ...18:05
natschiltorpor: mine have been quite positive, compared to other distros, i.e. my ati card is working well with hardy18:05
henkpoleyWah.. several hours past release and still fast package download?18:05
torpornatschil: i am considering going back to 8.10 to get ATI 3D acceleration18:05
phoenixzHi there, Im about to receive a new server which probably will be a SUN sunfire t2000.. I received specs which say that under Solaris, this server has 16 virtual 1GHz processors... Would this mean that in Ubuntu I see only 1 real processor, or also 16 processors?? Anybody has some experience with Linux on SUN Sparc hardware?18:05
torpori need to be able to work on OpenGL code in Linux18:05
MaT-dgI'm installing 9.04. In the partitioner (manual) I get the error "No root filesystem is defined" what have I forgotten?18:05
Baconhearttorpor: i have an ATI card with no direct rendering right now18:05
natsukashiSo, will upgrading remove my current programs, packages and so on?18:05
pronoyanyone know about realplay......says can't execute child process file not found......after it didn't give errors in installation18:05
Baconheartany ideas?18:05
torporBaconheart: me too18:05
natschiltorpor: no ati working in 9.04 ?18:05
imretokyois #ubuntu the right place to ask about jaunty install and back up questions? if not which room is the right one?18:06
chillitomChousuke, torpor thanks I'll dig out the release notes/search launchpad18:06
torpornatschil: only 2D .. no 3D acceleration.  ATI Radeon HD 385018:06
rodolfosomeone plase answer...what file should I look for to remove one specific driver from blacklist?18:06
Zeggtubuntu is done growing http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu18:06
fuzz16 processors?! how awesome is that?!18:06
phoenixzimretokyo: ubuntu+118:06
pepperjackBoltClock: the behavior is the same you just tell it that the partition has a mount point of /home its in no way necessary to have a sep home partition though18:06
torporrodolfo: /etc/modules/blacklist18:06
phoenixzimretokyo: Channel #ubuntu+118:06
melat0ninCan I ask why the Bittorrent page on the Ubuntu.com site has not been updated?  This is a shocking oversight on a launch day18:06
melikkubuntu jaunty works flawlessly on an asus 901 eeepc18:06
Pici!ot18:06
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!18:06
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maigrehi18:06
BoltClockpepperjack: i mean, after i install jaunty alongside hardy18:06
walkenSalut18:07
sipiorimretokyo: yep, you're in the right place.18:07
natschiltorpor: oh, that sucks.... is this a general problem for fglrx, or only some cards?18:07
rodolfotorpor, thank you" and just one more thing..do you know if there is a way to upgrade my kernel to 2.6.29 through update manager?18:07
torpornatschil: not sure, just trying to work it out for myself today18:07
sikor_sxei have an intel i945 gfx chip in my laptop. is updating to jaunty recommended then? i read there are bad regressions with the intel driver18:07
eseven73What is a good Twitter client for Ubuntu 8.04?18:07
torporrodolfo: no18:07
maigrei just install jaunty 64, the apt-get seems to be unable to connect, but my internet is working.. server down?18:07
torporsikor_sxe: the regressions have been fixed18:07
solexious|netbkIs it possible to have netbook remix but remove the giant program selector?18:07
phoenixzsipior: ohw? Launchday is today? so this is the 9.04 channel now?18:08
Zeggtis it a good idea to get aubuntu for my laptop? It's jsut im worried about fuckign around with drivers for years to come18:08
imretokyowhat folders should I backup if i want to clean install ubuntu jaunty? i had ibex with dual boot until now, but now i want to use my entire hdd for jaunty, but i also want to keep my settings.bookmarks etc.. at the same time. i want to increase the size of my home partition with the clean install. is it enough to back up my home folder to not loose any of my settings?18:08
meliksikor_sxe, i don't know exactly but jaunty has really nice driver support18:08
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melikimretokyo, just /home18:08
rodolfotorpor, well...is the newest version available?18:08
melikin my opinion18:08
eseven73!ohmy | Zeggt18:08
ubottuZeggt: Please remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others.18:08
torporfor a long time i was running the 9.04 beta on my aspire one (intel graphics) and the performance was terrible, but with the recent release it seems to have been fixed and i now have 3d acceleration18:08
whatteyhow come  /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-server/volatile shows up when i do df -h? afaik nothing in there i need ;o18:08
sipiorphoenixz: check the forum title...18:08
pepperjackwell hardy will still see /home as located on its partition. the jaunty installer will automatically see hardy and give you an additional boot option in grub18:08
torporbut on my AMD quad-core box, ATI Radeon HD card, it still sucks ass.18:08
topriddyGiven a *.deb.tar.gz how do I install? Just downloaded codeblocks for ubuntu and its in that format18:08
fuzzanyway can someone help me? is there a way to get the default settings back to ubuntu so that my weird network login thing gets unchecked (coz im stuck in a network login screen and cant load my local desktop anymore18:08
torporrodolfo: use kernelcheck to get the latest kernel installed if you need it.18:08
mib_p35eonpiHi , I want to work on the dolphin file manager18:08
fuzzhalp would be appriciated18:09
mib_p35eonpican someone help me how to start with18:09
ZeggtHi, I hate ubuntu. Where should I go?18:09
grawityZeggt: ##windows18:09
whatteyhaha18:09
ellaris it possible to install netbook remix from cd? how do i burn the img on cd?18:09
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melikmib_p35eonpi, #kde18:09
TheDatais launchpad offline?18:09
Lartza540I donwloaded 9.04 server, but there is no command line only eg install???18:09
italomaiaZeggt, hell18:09
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grawitytorpor: unpack (tar xvf file.deb.tar.gz), install (dpkg -i file.deb)18:09
Zeggt:(18:09
Zeggtthis channel is insane18:09
phoenixzsipior: yeah yeah, I totally forgot :)18:09
pronoyneed help with realplayer here plz18:09
* Zeggt ITS CRAZY IS THIS CHANNEL.18:09
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ZeggtEVERYONE NEDS HELP18:09
maigrei just install jaunty 64, the apt-get seems to be unable to connect, but my internet is working.. server down?18:09
jojoman02italomaia:  first thing i thought of, but i think ##windows might be a safer option for him, lol..18:09
grawityZeggt: what else did you expect saying "I hate ubuntu" in #ubuntu?18:09
sipiorZeggt: welcome to my ignore list18:09
* grawity retreats.18:09
TheDatais launchpad offline?18:09
Baconheartwow i wish i hadn't upgraded now....18:10
Lartza540WIth server disc do I just install regular to get command line?18:10
Zeggto_O everyone needs help and there just isnt enough help being given out18:10
torporTheData: yes18:10
U-b-u-n-t-uI am about to do a fresh install of 9.04 and I am going to partition the drive in ext4 but I have a slave drive in ext3 I assume thats not going to be an issue?18:10
torporZeggt: help where you can then and stop the noise about it.18:10
italomaiajojoman02, rsrsrsrs18:10
jojoman02Zeggt, what u need help with, that might have been a start...18:10
Zeggtin windows, guess what? not this many places of help are asked18:10
torporU-b-u-n-t-u: nope18:10
U-b-u-n-t-uthanks torpor18:10
trunkzErrm18:10
trunkzI cant seem to get libspe2 in jaunty18:10
phoenixzHi there, Im about to receive a new server which probably will be a SUN sunfire t2000.. I received specs which say that under Solaris, this server has 16 virtual 1GHz processors... Would this mean that in Ubuntu I see only 1 real processor, or also 16 processors?? Anybody has some experience with Linux on SUN Sparc hardware?18:10
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trunkzapt-get cant find it18:10
rskiZeggt: please dont troll18:10
KIAazeoh, now we have ipv6 torrents!18:11
pavsmy update manager is not asking me to upgrade, am I missing something?18:11
torporphoenixz: consult your hardware documentation. nobody can answer questions like this18:11
KIAazeare they faster?18:11
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maigreubuntu server is down? apt-get can't reech it18:11
Piciphoenixz: Perhaps try #ubuntu-server18:11
pepperjackphoenixz: i sent you a like yesterday ;p18:11
rodolfotorpor, thanks18:11
phoenixzpepperjack: you sent me what?18:11
Alandoes anybody know what happens if you supply multiple servers for the same packages in sources.list18:11
KIAazelaunchpad down, ubuntu server down, aircrack site down! The end is nigh!18:11
Alan?18:11
alienkidmy package update is hanging at 56% connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com18:11
jojoman02atleast the website is responsive, i remember last time the webpage wouldn't even load...18:11
racecar56!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!18:11
alexeyhurricanehello18:11
U-b-u-n-t-upavs do to the synaptic packager manager and make sure you have the repository settings right for updates18:11
torporAlan: nothing, you'll get the newest from theh first server18:12
alexeyhurricanewhere is chat for ubuntu beginners18:12
* Lord_Devi panics from everything being down and runs to the nearest window and defenistrates himself18:12
racecar56alexeyhurricane, here18:12
ZeggtHi I need help. I downloaded Ubuntu and i still have no idea how babby is formed18:12
U-b-u-n-t-upavs go* to the synaptic packager manager and make sure you have the repository settings right for updates18:12
Alantorpor: so it tries them in the order they are in the sources.list?18:12
torporalienkid: us.ubuntu is being hit hard18:12
torporAlan: yes18:12
torporwin 418:12
KIAazeNOOOOOO, not the Window!!!!18:12
jojoman02alienkid: you should really do a fresh install, upgrades are yucky to be honest, but in the end it's up to you18:12
alienkidoh so is that why it's taking so long thank you18:12
alexeyhurricanei got trouble playing video in firefox browser18:12
pepperjackphoenixz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Sparc  :)18:12
Polterge|stI've not ever had a prob with upgrades18:12
alienkidI did a fresh install of Jaunty18:12
Alantorpor: so, having a local mirror, i could just put my local mirror lines before the global mirror lines, and if i'm inside my network i'll end up using the local ones?  and if not, it'll fail over to the global ones?18:12
alienkidgtg18:13
alexeyhurricanei used to play it but after i update to 9 i think it stoped18:13
torporeveryone should try to help as much as possible.18:13
slmichalkwhere can In find an i386 jaunty torrent?18:13
Polterge|stthen again I'm running a comp that is maybe 5 or 6 years old18:13
torporAlan: yes18:13
maximohow is it going sofar with Ubuntu 9:04 Jaunty Jackalope?18:13
racecar56O.O all of the servers are down!18:13
jojoman02Zeggt, babby?18:13
fuzzZeggt: you dont know how they make babies?18:13
Alantorpor: excellent :)18:13
racecar56cool18:13
grawityKIAaze: The "Everything is down!" moments kind of remind me of http://is.gd/u7F2 </offtopic>18:13
Polterge|stI'm downloading the upgrade tools now18:13
Angelsoulsalve18:13
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Zeggthow is babby formed?18:13
fuzzjoin #birdsnbees18:13
torporPEOPLE: this is a very active channel.  please everyone try to help as much as you can.18:13
BoltClockZeggt: lol18:13
Angelsoulitalian?18:13
graingertwhat is the easiest way to see how big the upgrade is to ubuntu+118:13
TheDataUbuntu installing......................18:13
pavs<U-b-u-n-t-u> I did, still nothing. Anyway to force it to upgrade?18:13
Polterge|stif the servers were down it seems like I wouldn't be able to download the upgrade tools18:13
hamid11771I am crazy about NETBOOK remix :D i wanna install it but i Cant download win32-image-writer, the page is not available. any alternative ?18:13
torporPolterge|st: not all servers are down18:14
kbinghamI'm now on 9.04 ... but kded4 is running at 50% of my cpu usage (which seen as I have dual core - is an entire processor!)18:14
Polterge|sttorpor, that is what I was insinuating18:14
U-b-u-n-t-upavs I assume youre using 8.10 now?18:14
torporkbingham: use top to find out whats going on, it could just be indexing software is trying to create the initial index of your disk .. it will settle down if you let it finish18:14
weather15Seems some mirrors are down18:14
jojoman02graingert, most likely it's around the cd iso size, so u could check that (it's 699), it's prob a little less. maybe 550 or 52518:14
maigreupgrade tools ok but no way to get any package (synaptic /apt-get doesn't work)18:14
Polterge|styep18:14
Polterge|st8.10 has been very good to me18:14
hamid11771I am crazy about NETBOOK remix :D i wanna install it but i Cant download win32-image-writer, the page is not available. any alternative ?18:14
* fuzz needs a little help too if its ok18:15
Polterge|stresults will vary though18:15
scunizikbingham: check the running services.. might be tracker.. tracker did that on 8.10 & 8.04 gnome.. not sure if it's used for kbuntu or not.. might just be indexing18:15
racecar56ubuntu 200018:15
torporhamid11771: use a linux box to put the UNR image on a USB stick .. dd if=/path/to/the/image/file.img of=/path/to/partition1/of/usbstick bs=102418:15
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markeoupgrade status: file 8 of 1491. This is going to be a very, very long day.18:15
Polterge|stif 9.04 is really that much better than 8.10 then I think it will be worth it18:15
torporhamid11771: then boot from USB and away you go18:15
mib_p35eonpiHi, I want to join the development team of ubuntu18:15
mib_p35eonpican someone help me regarding that18:15
Polterge|stI just want to find out if there is a way to automatically upgrade the FS to ext418:15
torporPolterge|st: its good if you've got the right hardware18:15
Sylphid|workcould anyone send me a 9.04 torrent (desktop or server, 386 or amd64)18:16
Polterge|stI have tier 2 or something18:16
jojoman02mib_p35eonpi: join #ubuntu-dev18:16
Polterge|stI think all of my hardware is supported18:16
KIAazemmh, there seems to be a big error on the torrent link on http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt18:16
topriddytorpor: The install command doesnt work after unpacking18:16
torporPolterge|st: such an upgrade is not easy18:16
hamid11771torpor: i am on a linux box now, please give me the complete command :)18:16
topriddyGiven a *.deb.tar.gz how do I install? Just downloaded codeblocks for ubuntu and its in that format18:16
whatteySylphid|work http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/18:16
torporhamid11771: i just did18:16
KIAazeit tries to download the .iso directly18:16
melat0ninlook here for torrents: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/18:16
c4nxhi18:16
c4nxBactrack 3 use APT?18:16
fuzzim stuck in some network login thing i dont know rly..18:16
Polterge|sttorpor, there appears to be a script for it18:16
U-b-u-n-t-upavs, you can't go from 8.04 to 9.04 thats why I am asking18:16
Polterge|sta patch for instance18:16
Polterge|ston the wiki site18:16
scuniziPolterge|st: it's not THAT much better.. but there are features that if you don't have them in 8.10 and they're available in 9.04 then do the upgrade.. if you're running an ATI card you might want to wait .. some of them are broken in the new version18:16
torportopriddy: gunzip your.deb.tar.gz, tar xvf your deb.tar, dpkg -i ./your.deb18:16
kbinghamscunizi: torpor: http://kbingham.pastebin.com/m21e9c38418:17
Polterge|stI have an older nvidia18:17
Sylphid|workwhattey, not loading =/18:17
Polterge|stfrom what I've heard X is better in 9.0418:17
Polterge|stwell for what it supports anyhow18:17
torporPolterge|st: it is if you have the right hardware18:17
scuniziPolterge|st: your good to go then18:17
amikropIsn't there an md5sum for 9.0.4?18:17
Polterge|stawesome18:17
amikrop* 9.0418:17
proq!startup18:17
Polterge|st:D18:17
ubottuTo add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot18:17
torporkbingham: looks like kde is the hog18:17
amikrop!md5sum18:17
ubottuTo verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more18:17
torpormaybe you've got some widgets running?18:18
pavs<U-b-u-n-t-u> I am using RC of 9.04, trying to upgrade to the final release.18:18
c4nxGuys Backtrack 3 use a APT ?????????????18:18
jojoman02Polterge|st: to be honest x is better is most releases ever since the modularization of x18:18
proq!startupscreen18:18
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about startupscreen18:18
racecar56!usplash18:18
ubottuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork18:18
Polterge|styeah jojoman02 I have noticed this18:18
Zeggt!slashbox18:18
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about slashbox18:18
Zeggt!idiot18:18
dragoncheesehow can I get audio on .wmv files to work? video works fine in mplayer but no audio18:18
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about idiot18:18
Polterge|stit gets better and better18:18
Zeggt!ubuntu18:18
ubottuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com18:18
LjL!botabuse18:18
ubottuPlease investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".18:18
Zeggt!linux18:18
ubottuLinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux18:18
c4nxzzzzzzzzzzzzz18:18
Zeggtlinux kernal sucks18:18
KIAaze"The application KTorrent (ktorrent) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV).", AAAH, now it's even the software that's crashing!!!18:18
grawityLjL: Can you please get rid of Zeggt?18:18
LjL!offtopic18:18
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!18:18
torpordragoncheese: you need the w32-codecs package18:18
rskiZeggt: please dont troll18:18
scuniziZeggt: go away to another channel and troll18:18
LjLgrawity: no, i cannot18:19
jojoman02Zeggt: honesty, what are u trying to do? see if u can get banned?18:19
trunkzlaunchpad seems to be coming back :)18:19
grawityAww :(18:19
graingertdragoncheese, you need the codecs from medibuntu18:19
DoulosJust block Zeggt18:19
racecar56Zeggt, if you are saying it sucks then go suck yourself18:19
dragoncheesetorpor, I have that installed but still no luck18:19
LjL!feeding the troll18:19
ubottuThe above mess was caused by someone who thought it was funny (they're gone now). Please ignore it completely, since discussing it and making a fuss will only make them think they've reached their "fun" goal.18:19
whatteySylphid|work try ftp://ftp.port80.se/ubuntu-cd/9.04/18:19
whatteyshould work18:19
U-b-u-n-t-upavs if you have the synaptic package manager set with the updated to include new releases then it should show up in update manager18:19
grawityLjL: weren't you an op? :/18:19
racecar56Zeggt, go to another channel18:19
LjLgrawity: i was, yes.18:19
Sylphid|workwhattey, got it on http://cz.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/18:19
torpordragoncheese: there are more codecs out there on other repo's, check medibuntu18:19
dragoncheesegraingert, i do have all medibuntu stuff installed.. video but no audio18:19
grawityLjL: :(18:19
whatteyah cool18:19
U-b-u-n-t-upavs if its not then I have no idea and someone else would have to help ya18:19
graingertdragoncheese, I see, are you muted18:19
pavs<U-b-u-n-t-u> maybe the server is busy, I will wait. Thanks :)18:20
* fuzz is ignored18:20
champainHas anyone elses upgrade to 9.04 been hanging at 157?18:20
torpordragoncheese: have you configured mediaplayer to use your audio subsystem?18:20
jensaHello! how do i make a install file as root? am i root when i enter temrinal? What's the command for being root? Trying to create a install file for my soundcard drivers, but permission denied all the time18:20
U-b-u-n-t-upavs ok I am using the germany server now and its fast if you decide to go the fresh install rout18:20
torpori.e. can you play mp3 files?18:20
longbowwhat's'up with launchpad, is there aan alterative location to get win32image writer?18:20
solexious|netbkIs it possible to have netbook remix but remove the giant program selector?18:20
jojoman02champain: i suggest fresh install if possible...18:20
LjL!root > jensa    (jensa, see the private message from ubottu)18:20
scunizijensa: sudo before a command18:20
torporsolexious|netbk: yes18:20
racecar56ubuntu200018:20
U-b-u-n-t-upavs most of them were like 50 kbs its up to 340 kbs18:20
grawityjensa: sudo <somecommand> for single commands, sudo -i for root shell.18:20
racecar56ubun200018:20
LjLjensa: what soundcard do you have, that doesn't work out of the box?18:20
jensascunizi, thanks18:20
torporsolexious|netbk: you can remove the netbook remix interface18:20
graingertsolexious|netbk, yeah18:20
jensaljl = Creative SB X-fi18:21
LjLjensa: ouch.18:21
solexious|netbktorpor graingert, thanks18:21
jensaWhat?18:21
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ShinyHatjust tried to use audacity and i get an error telling me to check device output settings, where there is nothing listed. what do i do?18:21
Prez00who here tested 9.04 as beta?  fairly stable?18:21
racecar56i have a sound blaster 16 xD18:21
LjLjensa: nothing, just support for it is abysimal18:21
racecar56not in any of my comps, but i have one sitting around18:21
squidlyPrez00: I have a co-worker who used 9.04 for the last month18:21
squidlyhe said it's nice and stables18:21
pavs<U-b-u-n-t-u> I will try a diferrent server, after its done fethcing from this one. very slow, as expected today.18:21
graingertsolexious|netbk, but why would you want to?18:21
jensaljl, haha yeah, been trying and trying for AGES now18:21
Polterge|stare the FS bugs fixed in 9.04 as they said they would be by the final release date ?18:21
Prez00squidly: thanks..18:21
scuniziPrez00: if you're concerned wait until 9.04.118:21
squidlyPrez00: np. I'm going to it next week on my stuff18:22
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solexious|netbkgraingert, not a fan of it18:22
Piciscunizi: Non LTS releases are not likely to have those point releases.18:22
graingertsolexious|netbk, aw18:22
naxahi18:22
scuniziPici: ah.. thanks .. didn't know that..18:22
naxait's only me or launchpad has crashed?18:22
longbownaxa it's down18:22
racecar56its down18:22
TheDatalaunchpad is down18:22
Picinaxa: Its having techincal difficulties.18:23
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TheDatastrange, is it?18:23
openforlifeanyone tried 9.04 on Eee 900? Couldn't get the beta to install18:23
PiciThey're aware.18:23
KIAazevery aware18:23
TheDataok18:23
VECPU1Webu: still around?18:23
KIAazemore than JCVD18:23
squidlyi'm having issues connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com18:23
othellixhow i install on wine directx?18:23
squidlyis that server down?18:23
jensaWOHO!!!! MY SOUND ON UBUTNU IS WORKING18:23
torporsquidly: yes18:23
jensathanks to this channel for all help118:23
squidlytorpor: ok thanks18:23
Polterge|stit is probably down because today is D day pretty much and the final release is out and everyone is trying to upgrade at the same time18:23
scuniziothellix: it may still not allow you to play games.18:23
racecar56ya18:24
othellix????18:24
scuniziothellix: check with #winehq on directx compatibility in wine18:24
chillitomon uprade I'm seeing a lot of Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0" messages18:24
squidlytorpor: what can I use to install 8.10 pacakages?18:24
chillitomany ideas?18:24
catywow, i lot of people here!!18:24
othellixplay one game but i whant to install another18:24
torporsquidly: try another continent mirror18:24
raphaWill hibernation only work with a swap partition, or also with a swap FILE?18:24
hbekelchillitom: those are harmless warnings18:25
torporinstead of .us., try .uk. or something18:25
Azneradinitrd does not boot my clean raid - how to automate "#mdadm --assemble --scan; exit" on bootup? my grandparents will appreciate your help ;)18:25
chillitomhbekel, thanks18:25
scunizirapha: yes I think so and the swap has to be big enough otherwise it will hang18:25
othellixi have a error tell me i need to instal directx 018:25
RobLoach1) Is libnotify messed?18:25
raphascunizi: I know about the min size - that's why I would have preferred a file -- in case hibernation doesn't work, I can free the space again18:25
scuniziAznerad: grandparents running raid on their machine? now that's adventurous :)18:25
sebsebsebnearly 1800 people18:26
RobLoach2)) ATI drivers aren't working with dual monitor.18:26
raphaAny experience with 9.04 on a TP T61 so far?18:26
markeoAznerad: IIRC you can't boot off an md device unless you have a custom compiled initrd for it. If you google up "boot linux md device" you should find the anwers18:26
Polterge|stanother thing I wonder about is if it will be worth it or not the encrypt the entire partition after switching to ext4. I've heard ext4 is faster so I don't know if eventually encrypting it will make that much of a slowdown difference ?18:26
kevin009What is the *package name* that installs the restricted driver manager?18:27
Azneradscunizi: it worked for 3 years and at least 4 ubuntu versions18:27
nivardusmy 9.04 install freezes after language selection and attempting to make a selection (install, check disc, etc.)18:27
racecar56why isn't nvidia 178.xx in repos?18:27
Picikevin009: jockey-gtk or jockey-qt18:27
kevin009thanks18:27
graingertHow can I see all installed packages and sort by size, any frontend18:27
Polterge|stI actually found a site where a guy has a script that generates a random encryption at boot and at shutdown which is what I'm maybe after18:27
markeoICBW, YMMV, other disclaimers apply because it's been a long time, and the more I think about it I'm thinking about LVM not md devices18:27
TheDatalaunchpad is back online!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!18:27
torporgraingert: dpkg -l18:27
Polterge|stjust for the sake of having constantly changing encryption because of the hacker activity going on out there on the web lately18:27
TheDataslow but it is back18:27
TheDatalaunchpad is back18:27
Azneradmarkeo: i did google the topic and had it working in the last ubuntu versions but it broke this time for good18:27
graingerttorpor, in order?18:28
Polterge|stespecially via firefox18:28
scuniziAznerad: that's great.. I'm not douting you.. just think it's really nice of you to set their system up that way.. they probably don't even realize the benefit of it.18:28
racecar56OMG "E: Package linux-image-2.6.28-11-generic has no installation candidate"18:28
graingerttorpor, in order of size?18:28
torporgraingert: dpkg -l | sort18:28
torpor;)18:28
torporor use synaptic18:28
racecar56help! i should not reboot until this fixed18:28
markeoAznerad: Yeah, my apologies. I'm undercaffeinated and reflecting back on LVM not md18:28
torporracecar56: what?18:28
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racecar56torpor, E: Package linux-image-2.6.28-11-generic has no installation candidate18:28
racecar56torpor, and its not installed18:28
torporracecar56: why do you need it?18:28
racecar56torpor, because you gotta have a kernel :P18:29
jelly-beanwhen i vnc into my machine i want it to show me a different desktop that i can customize aside from my user's normal one. mainly because my user's normal one is a hi-res twinview setup and vnc is a low-res single monitor/desktop setup. how can i achieve this?18:29
racecar56torpor, im on 9.04 if you didnt know18:29
shyam_kwhat should i give with startx to start a second x session?18:29
torporermm.. you hav eone or your machine wouldn't be running18:29
othellixufffffff18:29
torporjelly-bean: set up another user, customize the desktop, tell vlc to use that new user/passwd combination instead of your old one18:29
sukihi, when my laptop starts up and shuts down there is a loud beep (Really loud) and when there is an error (backspace_18:29
Azneradscunizi: yes, they have no clue that is the reason why i run them on linux it was a nightmare on windows before - the raid saved the system once till now18:29
Matr|Xplz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/18:29
sukihow do i remove the beep18:29
jelly-beantorpor: ok thnx18:29
Matr|Xplz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/18:29
shyam_kthe command line version of switching user?18:29
shyam_ki mean switching gui users..18:30
graingertshyam_k, sudo user18:30
graingertshyam_k, su user*18:30
torporshyam_k: su - username18:30
torporbetter to use su -18:30
KripzHi all.. i was wondering if someone could help me, i have a Dell Latitude D430, and i was wondering if the wifi would work on ubuntu before installing it.18:30
Matr|Xplz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/18:30
torporthat way you get the new user environment too18:30
Matr|Xplz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/18:30
whatteyhow do i remove residual configs in terminal, like u can in synaptic?18:30
othellixno help?18:30
shyam_kgraingert: torpor i wanna start a second x session for another user..18:30
markeotorpor: sudo -i18:30
Matr|Xplz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/18:30
jeancalvinhow do i upgrade without wasting a CD/DVD?18:30
shyam_kgraingert: torpor not just command line18:31
Matr|Xplz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/18:31
Polterge|stupdate-manage -d18:31
Polterge|stis that correct ?18:31
Matr|Xplz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/18:31
markeojeancalvin:  sudo update-manager --dist-upgrade18:31
commander__does anyone have back in time?18:31
Polterge|stupdate-manager -d   even18:31
torpormarkeo: no, sudo should only be used for superuser acces18:31
zenit.18:31
Pici!upgrade | Polterge|st18:31
ubottuPolterge|st: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading18:31
Aznerad suki:  check the post error codes of your bios manufactorer18:31
Matr|Xplz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/18:31
Polterge|stah18:31
markeoPolterge|st: nope, -d means 'dev version'18:31
torporsu - someuser is better18:31
Matr|Xplz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/18:31
Matr|Xplz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/18:31
scuniziKripz: you need to run the live cd and see if it works.. also in the live cd you can open a terminal and type sudo lshw for a full list of your hardware.. your wireless card chipset will be listed.. with that info google or here might be able to answer that question better.18:31
FloodBot2Matr|X: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.18:31
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Polterge|stah ok18:31
Polterge|stI was wondering18:31
Polterge|stI seen the line from the launchpad site18:31
Polterge|stI guess that is latest unstable branch18:31
Matr|Xplz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/18:31
Kripzscunizi can i pm you, it's pretty quicked paced in here.18:32
Matr|Xplz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/18:32
Pici!repeat | Matr|X18:32
ubottuMatr|X: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience18:32
KripzI'm finding it hard to be able to keep up lol18:32
Matr|Xplz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/18:32
Baconheartmy /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is empty, is that normal in Jaunty?18:32
sukiAznerad: how? and why the bios?18:32
graingerttorpor, that does not work18:32
scuniziKripz: just using nicks in the line will highlight and make it easier to follow.. and others will learn as well.. not sure how much else I can do though.. wireless isn't my thing18:32
torporMatr|X: you have not yet configured mysql  .. you need to write a .cnf file18:32
trunkzhow does one make a .deb outta a compiled item?18:32
Matr|Xyes plz18:32
trunkzI've just compiled libspe2 & installed it (make install)18:32
sukishouldnt it be the pcspkr? but ive tried to disable that too, but the loud BEEP sound is still there18:33
trunkzhowever dpkg still thinks libspe2 isnt installed18:33
markeowhattey: to remove residual configs try dpkg --purge <packagename>18:33
Azneradsuki:  the only thing that beeps on start up before the os gets loaded is the bios18:33
trunkzSo I gotta install it via the .deb method18:33
jojoman02Baconheart: they are trying to get rid of the dreaded xorg.conf it's there just to override auto-detected settings now, therefore it's blank...18:33
whatteyhow come  /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-server/volatile shows up when i do df -h? seems like theres only wlan stuff in there that i dont need ;o18:33
timiI've moved to another appartment and I'm connected to the same ISP through cable. Same computer, no kernel upgrades or anything, but ubuntu simply won't detect the network. It works on windows. Any idea what may be wrong?18:33
sukiAznerad: after the OS has booted up , not before18:33
pace_t_zuluBaconheart: I think jaunty is capable of running without an /etc/xorg/xorg.conf18:33
Matr|Xplz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/18:33
Azneradsuki: sorry my bad18:33
sukiand when i press 'backspace' etc when there is no chars left18:33
MikeDataDoes anyone know where I can find the Atlantis 2 Plugin?18:34
Kripzscunizi: where can i obtain a ubuntu "live CD" ?18:34
torporokay i'm leaving now18:34
torporgood luck everyone!18:34
trunkzKripz, www.ubuntu.com18:34
scuniziKripz: I just answered on the pm side..18:34
Azneradsuki: at which point deas this happens?18:34
issaHello guys, how can i download kernel 2.6.27.7 while I have Jaunty?18:34
trunkzIf someone is running jaunty here, can they do an apt-get for libspe2?18:34
torpori will/exit18:35
trunkzI cant find that app,18:35
timican someone help me set up networking? It used to work but now all of a sudden it doesn't...18:35
whatteycan only find the documentation trunkz ;<18:35
nivardusanyone know why installation from CD might freeze up after language selection?18:35
Matr|Xplz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/18:35
trunkzwhattey, same.18:35
Matr|Xplz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/18:35
trunkzI've just compiled it18:35
trunkzbut dpkg seems to think that its not installed.18:35
peppois there a replacement for "Tracker"? I find its search functionality below-par. I.e. a folder called "Dunderklumpen.x.x.x.x" is not discovered when I search for "Dunder", only if I input the full string!18:35
raphaoh just found out, no hibernate on a ThinkPad T61 ... so I can do without that much swap18:35
trunkzso I'm assuming, I have to make a deb out of it18:35
MikeDataDoes anyone know where I can find the Atlantis 2 Plugin?18:35
shyam_kerr sorry connection got break18:35
OmarmanI have a Wubi question? Can I upgrade to Jaunty from inside my wubi installation? Will a simple sudo apt-get dist-upgrade work18:36
Omarman?18:36
Polterge|ststrange it told me that the upgrade would be cancelled because my system was up to date18:36
trunkzOmarman, yes18:36
Polterge|stand it still shows that there is an upgrade available18:36
Polterge|stI'm running 8.10 though18:36
OmarmanAwesome.. thank you trunkz18:36
trunkzPolterge|st, do apt-get clean all18:36
raphabut how do you get Ubuntu to use a swapfile instead of a swap partition?18:36
trunkzthen restart the process :)18:36
MK13Omarman: it should work18:36
sukihow do i remove the loud system/error beep18:36
TheFunkbombHello sportsfans18:37
Polterge|sttrunkz, I will let it try and download this upgrade tool again18:37
trunkzalright :)18:37
Polterge|stif it gives the same error again I will do the apt-get clean all18:37
Polterge|stthanks for the help18:37
Polterge|st:P18:37
Baconheartanyone know how to get 3d acceleration back after upgrade to Jaunty?18:37
trunkzPolterge|st, no worries. To be honest, I'd recommend people just do a fresh install18:37
trunkzsaves alot of problems in the long run :P18:37
Polterge|sttrunkz, that is always the most stable18:37
chelzhttp://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt - these links don't go to the torrent files but to actual ISOs, just like the regular links. someone might want to fix it18:37
AzneradMatr|X: first of all, do you have the needed space left on the disk? are the rights ok in the folders it reports problems?18:37
trunkzDVDs are cheap now, so you can backup your pr0n directory ;)18:38
chelzi grabbed them okay from http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/18:38
Polterge|stin any case I can always update as the updates are released18:38
Polterge|stand surely bugs will be patched18:38
MikeDataDoes anyone know where I can find the Atlantis 2 Plugin? I tried to install Atlantis, but it says it can not find compiz and compiz is installed..18:38
DrMrHorseanyone have a problem installing moblock on then new jaunty (i know moblock isnt supported)18:38
raphaHow do you get Ubuntu to use a swapfile instead of a swap partition?18:38
trunkzPolterge|st, correct :)18:38
Polterge|stI've not had any problems yet updating with the updater that couldn't be fixed so knock on wood, hopefully this will work out alright18:38
Polterge|sthehe18:38
scunizi!swap18:38
ubottuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info18:38
issaHello guys, how can I download kernel 2.6.27.7 while I have Jaunty? The repos do not contain it .. can i mix two repos of two versions together?18:38
markeoMike: IIRC Atlantis is in the unsupported plugins package18:38
trunkzI'm only running Ubuntu because its useful on my ps318:38
trunkznothing more :P18:38
Polterge|stUbuntu has been very very good to me18:38
trevligsnubbehey (new to irc) i upgraded and the sound turned REALLY low and theres no way to get it higher (as far as I can see)18:38
weather15How many people here have actually downloaded and installed 9.04 successfully?18:39
trunkztrevligsnubbe, you'll need to be more specific than that.18:39
trunkzweather15, me..18:39
MikeDatamarkeo, understoof. Can you point me in the right direction?18:39
trunkzand I've got an obscure system :P18:39
TheFunkbombHmm update manager is not working :/18:39
MikeDataUnderstood*18:39
pi_mHi, how can I disable the new notifications?18:39
Azneradweather15: +118:39
markeotrevligsnubbe: start by doubleclicking the volume icon in your panel, that will get you more options18:39
racecar56torpor, E: Package linux-image-2.6.28-11-generic has no installation candidate18:39
install_help_neehas anyone else had trouble with Installer hanging up when resizing hard drive. This is 3rd time trying, I know it takes time. But im not on a slow computer. 3.6Gig quad core 8 gig ram. And its been doing it for 30 minutes....Just need help doing this...Reason for it is i have Vista installed. and i don't want to lose that.18:39
racecar56oops18:39
racecar56E: Package linux-image-2.6.28-11-generic has no installation candidate18:39
markeoMike: I'm sorry, I'm mid-upgrade, I'm withou most of my tools at the moment o_O18:39
scunizitrevligsnubbe: lately I had that issue on 8.10 .. I found that for some reason on each reboot I had to go into alsa mixer (double click the speaker icon) and get the "Front and Side" mixers showing and turn them up18:39
trunkzAgain, it would help us all if when you ask a question, you're a little more specific as to why x is not working.18:39
trunkzby x.. i dont necessarily mean xserver :P18:40
trevligsnubbeDell D630 has run the 8.04 for a few months... sound was lower than XP but still acceptable, now upgraded to 9.04 and sound is almost gone...18:40
jojoman02pi_m: are they annoying?18:40
MikeDatamarkeo, ok Thanks18:40
jojoman02pi_m: jw....18:40
ubuntistasiam in jaunty and radio doesnn't work18:40
teadictWhat do I use to burn .mdf files as DVD image?18:40
ubuntistasany clue?18:40
Azneradinstall_help_nee:  how fragmented is the disk?18:40
trunkzweather15, try a mirror closer to you geographically.18:40
trunkzOr, should have got the RC yesterday like all the clever people ;)18:40
pi_mjojoman02: I prefer the previous system...18:40
harisundI am guessing us.archive.ubuntu.com is slow because of all the traffic bound to be generated today?18:40
proqtrevligsnubbe: did you run alsamixer and turn it up?18:41
install_help_neeAznerad: All that is on it is Vista. And the Vista install is only 2 weeks old...18:41
loquitus_of_bor2So how do I "upgrade" from Jaunty Beta to the full release that came out today?18:41
trunkzharisund, correct. have a cookie.18:41
alinoni take it nobody else is able to upgrade right now ? ;/18:41
markeotrunkz: there's no upgrade path from rc's to the release though18:41
jojoman02pi_m: imho the previous system was fugly, but i think there is  a way to get it back u should check forums18:41
markeobetas are an island unto themselves18:41
zionpsyfer!vlc > zionpsyfer18:41
ubottuzionpsyfer, please see my private message18:41
trunkzmarkeo, there doesnt need to be one.18:41
scuniziloquitus_of_bor2: just do all your updates.. today might no be the best day for that though18:41
trunkzThe RC is pretty much what you're going to get the next day.18:41
LjLalinon: a bad idea to upgrade right now that the servers are all hogged.18:41
zionpsyfergah,  no workarounds for vlc?18:42
loquitus_of_bor2scunizi: so a full set of updates gets me to the "final release" stage?18:42
scuniziloquitus_of_bor2: yep18:42
protocol1thats what I thought too.....did my updates and nothing so I am good18:42
LjL!final18:42
ubottuIf you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Jaunty. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.18:42
markeoalinon: mine is underway, but it's stuck on file 8 of 1491 for the past 10 minutes18:42
pi_mjojoman02: I tried to google...18:42
trunkzwhat ubottu just said :)18:42
Azneradinstall_help_nee: ok sounds bad. try an other bootdisk do resize you vista gparted has one if i am right and install ubuntu on the prepared disk18:42
trunkzI got the first alpha of jaunty on my ps3, and have just been keeping it up to date :)18:42
racecar56and command line irc clients?18:42
racecar56*any18:42
whatteyirssi18:42
trunkzWhen the RC came out, just did a fresh install and stuck with it.18:42
trunkzracecar56, bitchx18:43
raphawhat's faster, reiserfs or ext4?18:43
alinonmarkeo: i was over halfway done when it just stopped for no reason18:43
icerootracecar56: irssi, bitchx18:43
scuniziracecar56: irssi for sure18:43
LjLracecar56:  irssi, weechat, tinyirc, tirc18:43
install_help_neeAznerad: will do. Thanks for help.18:43
pi_mjojoman02: But no relevant results...18:43
alinonmarkeo: now i can't even get the upgrade tool lol18:43
markeotrunkz: Hrm, I remember reading distinct warnings about there being no direct upgrade for the rc  when it hit, perhaps I/they was/were misinformed18:43
TheFunkbombso is everyone having trouble updating from the RC?18:43
whatteynop18:43
markeorapha: probably xt4 but it's going to depend on your activity profile as well for the device18:44
scunizirapha: not overly noticeable between the two but previously I thought that on SATA drives reiserfs was a little quicker.. just depends on what you're doing18:44
alinonmarkeo: my guess is all of the stuff i already have downloaded is just gone now :(18:44
markeoalinon: argh :(18:44
TheFunkbombwell then, I guess it's just me18:44
scuniziTheFunkbomb: of course.. the servers are hammered18:44
trunkzmarkeo, The release candidate is the release build, with perhaps one or two urgent bugs found during the 24hrs before release day.18:44
markeoalinon:  I'm about to give up myself for the moment heh18:44
TheFunkbombscunizi, okay then18:44
trunkzIf those bugs 'aren' there, then its the exact same build as the release.18:44
jojoman02pi_m: same... i would make a post in forums or answers in launchpad and wait.. :(18:44
racecar56naxa needs firefox update18:45
alinoni'm guessing it dont' keep any of the stuff already downloaded, because it's having me download the upgrade tool again18:45
ectospasmI noticed on my new Jaunty RC install (done last night, I haven't downloaded the new release yet) that Synaptic (or whatever) kept complaining about a partial upgrade... should I just download and install the full release?18:45
raphascunizi: markeo: general desktop usage I'd say ... I love my laptop to boot quickly. It's not very often that I copy or move large amounts of data. I'd say if thinks started up a tad quicker I'd like that.18:45
racecar56sudo apt-get dist-upgrade18:45
markeotrunkz: nod nod. I just remember reading that because it's tagged differently it's not a part of the upgrade paths, once the release is out. Again I'm going on my hazy emory of reading something two weeks ago and recalling it now before I've had coffee, which does not bode well for accuracy :)18:45
BobCFCectospasm, do the partial upgrade it's ok18:46
scunizirapha: the file sys type won't make much difference in that anyway18:46
trunkzmarkeo, :)18:46
ectospasmBobCFC: so I won't be left in an intermediate state?18:46
mohithe dvd download page for kubuntu sayd the modified time is 21st of april! http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/ is it OK?18:46
SliMMhow stable is kubuntu 9.04?18:46
Maximorapha: so  you have so far with new ubuntu?18:46
icerootectospasm: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and the you have the final-version18:46
BilgeI don't really understand this "LTS" update system. I installed 8.04 hardy some time last year and since then intrepid and jaunty have been released and they get newer versions of software than I am apparently privvy to. Why do we get stuck with older packages?18:46
zimbreshi, I updated my firefox and now there is some dependencie problems, it cannot be initialized. What should I do?18:46
ectospasmiceroot: OK, got it.18:46
alinonyou would think they would try to get more servers donated or something in prep for this upgrade18:46
raphaoh okay then ... gonna try out ext4 then just to see if any of the rumors about corruption are true18:46
BobCFCectospasm, no, it just means it's more than a normal package update18:46
scunizi!latest | Bilge18:46
ubottuBilge: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are: fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports.18:46
ectospasmBilge: LTS is Long Term Support18:46
raphaMaximo: I'm still installing - the LiveCD works fine tho :-)18:46
wallacejbjhey guys does anyone know what command line you can use in terminal to find out what /dev my dvd burner is set to?18:47
ectospasmIt's mainly for businesses who need a much more stable release cycle.18:47
Maximorapha: never thought about it but you right livecd18:47
BobCFCectospasm, like going from beta1 to beta 2, where a full didst upgrade is intrepid to jaunty etc18:47
BilgeYes but if you claim that I am stuck with an older version because that makes my system more stable, why are you not also claiming that the newer distros are unstable18:47
ectospasmwallacejbj: you can try "ls -al /dev/dvd*"18:47
markeorapha: for a desktop I'd guess that an optimized ext4 might be faster due to the newer extents model, but that's just reckless speculation on my part18:47
lepassivehow can i set automatic mountpoint for a partition ?18:47
BilgeIf a package is deemed stable then surely all distribution versions should now have access to it18:47
dragoncheeseis there really any performance increase or benefit from using the 64 bit vs. 32 bit18:47
bdubncHey guys is anyone seeing the black screen on 9.04 when the livecd starts.  Thanks!18:48
ectospasmdragoncheese: larger memory words18:48
icerootdragoncheese: no18:48
danbhfiveBilge: the point is, if you want newer packages, you should upgrade to later distros18:48
wallacejbjthank you ectospasm !!!18:48
ectospasmdragoncheese: the date command has a MUCH larger date space (millions of years vs. 38 yrs or so)18:48
danbhfiveBilge: thats the whole point of the new releases18:48
magciusIs us.archive.ubuntu.com down?18:48
markeolepassive: do you mean a consistent automount point for a usb drive, for example, or do you mean just mount a partition on an internal drive automatically?18:48
BobCFCdragoncheese, only benefit of 64bit is to uses more than 3.5gb ram18:48
raphamarkeo: well, trying it out can't hurt - I can always do a fresh install with good 'ole ReiserFS18:48
scuniziBilge: things break .. it takes a lot of effort to backport new verson's of programs for the actively maintained releases.. the latest release is considered "bleeding edge".. there's lots of people that don't want bleeding edge because of the potential for breakage18:49
magciusIt's timing out for me.18:49
alinonanyone here a fan of icewind dale 2?! i discovered last night it plays fantastically through virtualbox on XP18:49
Pici!ot18:49
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!18:49
markeorapha: indeed, if you benchmark it a bit, you should share your findings :)18:49
trunkzHow does one create a .deb package out of something i've just compiled?18:49
BilgeRight, so the bottom line is, if I want to upgrade just one package on my system, I actually need to upgrade the entire distribution first18:49
trunkzGonna try this method, hopefully libspe2 will behave.18:49
dragoncheeseok.. cause in 32 bit ubuntu my .wmv files work fine but the 64 bit i have no audio so i'm thinking of switching my main comp back to 32 bit18:49
scunizi!checkinstall | trunkz18:49
ubottutrunkz: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!18:49
lepassivemarkeo, like i've other partitions i get them mounted/umounted by click on the nautilus sidebar, but i want to set that mountpoint it's not present in /etc/fstab or mtab file (just only when it's mounted)18:49
icerootBilge: no18:49
trunkzawesome scunizi18:49
graingertdragoncheese, try, w64codecs18:49
icerootBilge: look at apt-pinning18:49
danbhfiveBilge: well no, you _can_ install later versions of a single package.  You just have to do it manually18:50
prometheus765hi, i installed ubuntu 9.04 rc couple days ago, do i need do something now, when final 9.04 jaunty is released?18:50
Bilgeapt-pinning: command not found18:50
raphaprometheus765: it IS released already18:50
icerootprometheus765: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade18:50
icerootBilge: google18:50
scuniziBilge: or compile it.. sometimes you'll find it in a PPA on launchpad18:50
thorn_hi all18:50
ectospasmprometheus765: aptitude update && aptitude -y dist-upgrade18:50
icerootBilge: its not a command its a method18:50
ectospasmdon't forget the update18:50
alinondid you guys noticed this upgrade automatically disables 3rd party distros?18:50
* BobCFC loves PPAs18:50
markeolepassive: right right, you'll need to manually add it to /etc/fstab18:50
scunizialinon: typical18:50
alinonscunizi: why do some websites suggest you do it manually then?18:51
ectospasmalinon: that should be easily fixed by adjusting your bootloader18:51
scunizialinon: because the 3rd party repo's are release specific.18:51
funkyHatanyone know if there's a printer status program for linux? (i.e. on windows, some printer drivers come with a helper app that pops up when the ink is low)?18:51
lepassivemarkeo, but there's no entries for it! how does it get mounted ?18:51
alinonlike it's so important18:51
BobCFCAlinon you need to authenticate every repo now18:51
covidiuHi. What happened to Compiz Config Settings Manager in Jaunty? I can't find the package... I have universe and multiverse enabled.18:51
ectospasmoh, you mean repos, not distros18:51
markeolepassive: You should be able to copy an existing line and just modify it to oint to you other device/ountpoint (assuming the same filesystem type)18:51
icerootfunkyHat: depending on the driver18:51
notplus_MIs there any way for me to tell ubuntu what mirror to use for the dist-upgrade?18:51
markeolepassive: That's nautilus doing some userspace mounting via FUSE18:51
dragoncheeseis there anyway to get the 32 bit to use all of my 4gb of ram?18:51
icerootfunkyHat: look at the website from the manufactor for a driver18:51
scunizialinon: the repo's you have listed were for the previous ubuntu release ..18:51
prometheus765ectospasm: i executed this, nothing was downloaded, looks like my system is up to date18:52
icerootdragoncheese: yes, if you board supports PAM18:52
icerootdragoncheese: then you can use more then 4gb ram with 32 bit (but max 4gb for one program)18:52
alinon**w00t i had to re-start this upgrade and it found the packages that had already been downloaded YAY!!18:52
scunizidragoncheese: it does.. just like windows there is some overhead taken..  this is a 32 bit problem or occurance and not specific to ubuntu18:52
BilgeTake pcre for example. It's just a regular expressions library. I may well want to take advantage of the latest version.  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcre3 here you can see that as a hardy users I am still stuck with 7.4, but if I happened to install Ubuntu today, I would end up with 7.8. I cannot understand why 7.8 isn't just made available to everyone at the same time18:52
raphaOh, "New Wave" looks real nice :-D18:53
lepassivemarkeo, sorry let me explain more /dev/sda6 /media/s4 fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0 is added automatically to the mtab file, i want to change /s4 part to someother option18:53
scuniziBilge: because it might break other things that are looking for 7.418:53
magciusBlubuntu FTW.18:53
BobCFCBilge, it probably depends on new libs in Jaunty18:53
BilgeNewer versions of PCRE don't break old features though18:53
Polterge|stwow I'm on dialup and it claimed the upgrade would take 6 minutes on my connection18:53
Polterge|stthen again I have the very latest 8.1018:53
proqBilge: you can always build and install it from the source. that may make it clear why they didn't make it available18:54
racecar56lol?18:54
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markeolepassive: Copy that line into /etc/fstab, mkdir /mnt/foo, and change /s4 to /foo in the fstab entry18:54
magciusscunizi, you can have separate versions of the same library installed at once, you know that, right?18:54
proqBilge: you may want to back up your system first though  :P18:54
scuniziBilge: but they are not going through 25,000+ packages to determine what will break what for older releases..18:54
prometheus765ectospasm: i was wondering if everything is ok with my jaunty because in rc there was no tray notification about updated packages, even after executing sudo apt-get update there was something to update18:54
markeolepassive: (where foo is the new mountpoint you want)18:54
EdgEyis there any "vulnerability" in using automatic login on ubuntu ?18:54
vassallihei18:54
lepassivemarkeo, but there's not entry for it in the fstab!18:54
racecar56EdgEy, well... anyone could log in...18:54
scunizimagcius: yes.. but that isn't what's being asked.. he's just asking why the libraries aren't made available for older releases.18:55
EdgEysudo etc will still ask for password right?18:55
proqEdgEy: sure... other people can log in as you18:55
gaffyHello there, I have just installed Xubuntu and I am wondering about how to setup a remote desktop that you can view from Windows...18:55
lepassivemarkeo, i mean it's done away from the fstab file18:55
proqgaffy: take a look at vnc server18:55
iceroot!vnc | gaffy18:55
ubottugaffy: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX18:55
markeolepassive: right, copy that automatically generated entry out of mtab and into fstab.18:55
EdgEyproq yes, i mean, remote logins will still need password etc right18:55
EdgEyand su18:55
proqdoes anyone know a good oss vmware equivalent for ubuntu, besides xen?18:55
graingertHow can I list packages installed on my system by size?18:55
majnoon!ugrade18:55
alinonso that's good news, to anyone's upgrades that suddenly stop downloaded, there's a chance if you *re-start the upgrade that it will find the packages already downloaded18:55
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ugrade18:55
proqEdgEy: yes, they will18:56
graingertproq, virtualbox18:56
lepassivemarkeo, then fstab should always mount it be default, and override the mtab one right ?18:56
icerootproq: virtualbox-ose18:56
BilgeSo are you saying that I am going to be stuck with older versions forever if I do not upgrade my distribution?18:56
EdgEyi'm not worried about people logging in that have physical access :)18:56
markeolepassive: precisely :)18:56
EdgEythanks18:56
icerootBilge: yes18:56
majnoonanyone have a url for upgrading ?18:56
Chr|subuntu.com18:56
icerootBilge: if you dont want to use backports18:56
Turlmajnoon: use the system updater18:56
billybigriggerwhats the best way to get a remote desktop login? i want to create a new system user that can login anywhere in the world and get their own X session, /home, and all that18:56
scuniziproq: virtualbox has 2 versions .. one in the repos and a non free version on thier site.. the primary difference is usb support.. there may be other things as well18:56
markeolepassive: if you don't want it to moutn automatically, you can add 'noauto' to the options, but I'massuming you always want it mounted consistently18:56
lepassivemarkeo, but i don't want it to be automounted :( i just want mtab to set another mountpoint18:57
rconanI'm using intrepid... I've extended my RAID5 and now I get dropped to initramfs at bootup... strangest of all there don't seem to be the lvm2 tools on the initramfs so I'm not sure how it used to work...18:57
majnoongoing to try to upgrade my wubi install18:57
wersi'm on a fresh install of jaunty. for some reason, i can't enable compiz. this never happened in older versions. i'm have an x3100. any idea why?18:57
rconanI checked that lvm2 is installed and regenerated initramfs and made no difference18:57
alinonmajnoon: if you have ubuntu, just hit alt-F2, type update-manager -d in the field, then a button will appear asking if you would like to upgrade18:57
proqwers: maybe you need to look into having the proper video card driver installed18:57
wersproq, isnt intel x3100 supposed to work out of the box?18:58
majnoonworst case scenario i boot into windows and reinstall :)18:58
racecar56 18:58
BilgeThe thing about apt-pinning is that it is intended to grab unstable and testing versions, but I am just trying to get the latest versions of what is deemed stable18:58
Reenenis anybody else having (or had) problems with Nvidia drivers?18:58
proqwers: I think most are, but problems are always a possibility18:58
BaconheartReenen: i'm having ATI problems myself18:59
wersproq ok thanks18:59
Reenenmy PC is in 640x480 (with drivers) and 800x600 without18:59
danbhfivealinon: it should be update-manager -c now, since its been released18:59
trevligsnubbeHEY ALL : First time on IRC, had hell of a trouble following the discussions, I think this is not for me :-S18:59
scuniziReenen: what card do you have and which driver did you enable?18:59
markeolepassive: ah ok. Sorry I was misunderstanding there. I'm hazy on this, but if it's an internaldrive I'd suggest the fstab entry with the 'noauto' option, and mount it from teh command line when you want it active. If it's a USB external disk you're talking about,  IIRC you will need to modify the udev mount rules for your drive, but I don't recall specifics... I do remember that it's googlable though18:59
trevligsnubbeBut thank you anyway !!!18:59
theuser1$ ssh localhost18:59
theuser1The authenticity of host 'localhost (127.0.0.1)' can't be established.18:59
theuser1RSA key fingerprint is fe:00:7b:6b:e3:7a:51:d8:a3:ee:6c:89:e1:e8:44:4e.18:59
theuser1Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? n18:59
FloodBot2theuser1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.18:59
alinondanhbfine: that's true, although it points to the same files either way now18:59
LjLtrevligsnubbe: #ubuntu on release day is usually pretty hard to follow. try again in a couple of days.18:59
_chunI'm having a problem with the volume keys on my keyboard - they seem to be changing the headphone volume rather than the master volume. anyone help?18:59
ReenenI have nvidia geforce FX 5500 (AGP), and I enabled v 177.14.1219:00
grawitytheuser1: And ... what is the problem?19:00
markeolepassive: this is drifting out of my circle of confidence, I'm going to have to defer to wiser folk than myself though19:00
celthundertrevligsnubbe, give yqourself a chance...you'll get used to following your conversations and ignoring the ones that you dont understand19:00
theuser1grawity: You should be prompted to type your password, and you should get another command-line when you type your password in. If this works, then your SSH server is working properly.19:00
amani didnt have any updates for the past two days !19:00
nativeangelscan anyone here tell me why the mouse pointer would disapear in wine ?19:00
_chun(fixed, nevermind)19:00
lepassivemarkeo, no problem thanks so much for your help :)19:00
Chr|sso what does the desktop look like? I think it upgraded when I did an update, but not sure19:00
amani have been using jaunty since alpha419:00
billybigriggerwhats the best way to setup a remote desktop user? like i want the new system user to have their own /home and what not and be able to login anywhere in the world, but not control my desktop, i want the remote user to seem like their running their own desktop, whats the best possible way of going about this?19:00
grawitytheuser1: You should respond "Yes" to the "Do you want to connect" question.19:01
amanregularly updating, updated to RC ; but no updates after that ..19:01
amanis there any way i can confirm i am on the final release of 9.04 ?19:01
markeotheuser1: No, you should be prompted to type 'yes' if you want to ok the connection. SSH is asking yuou to verify that the connection key looks like what you pect the first time you connect to a new server.19:01
grawitytheuser1: When connecting to any ssh server for the first time, your ssh client is supposed to ask user to verify the fingerprint.19:01
markeoaman: accoding to folks, if you do an apt-get up(date|grade) and don't get packages, you're golden19:02
nativeangelscan anyone help me19:02
stefgbillybigrigger: I'd look at NX19:02
Chr|s!ask | nativeangels19:02
ubottunativeangels: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)19:02
amanmarkeo, i am sorry , didnt get that !19:02
GlowballHi19:03
TheFunkbombUpdate manager wants me to do a partial upgrade and then when I try, it says "error authenticating some packages"19:03
Baconheartanyone know why my ATI on-borad video doesn't do 3d accelleration after upgrade to jaunty?19:03
theuser1grawity: ok19:03
cemcafter the upgrade to jaunty, update manager starts up instead of an icon appearing19:03
GlowballMy sound isn't working19:03
cemcwhat's with tihat?19:03
acr0nymthe ubuntu channel is so much more active today :)19:03
GlowballIt wasn't in Intrepid, and I first hoped it would be fixed after updating19:03
GlowballBut it isn't :(19:03
minimecBaconheart: what card?19:03
alinonTheFunkbomb: are you still working on upgrading to 9.04, or did you upgrade stall?19:03
markeoaman: if your update manager doesn't show packages when you click 'check for updates', then (ccording to folks here) you are running the release.19:03
markeo*latest release19:03
proqacr0nym: um... it's always this active  xD19:03
TheFunkbombalinon, I have the RC19:04
grawitytheuser1: Besides, if it asks "Are you sure you want to connect" and you reply "no", you shouldn't be surprised that it doesn't connect :)19:04
theuser1grawity: how wil i know that i am conected and ssh is working19:04
theuser1?19:04
acr0nymnah according to my calculations we have 1.4 letters per line more today :P19:04
amanmarkeo,  hmm, okay thanks19:04
protocol1whats the console command to reconfigure my display?19:04
grawitytheuser1: when sshing to localhost, it's harder to see ... use ssh -v localhost19:04
proqtheuser1: you will run a command on that machine and see a result19:04
sl00Hi. Another computer and a different problem. Starting to get very tiredsome to install ubuntu in this office. SSo the problem now... monitor says "Out of range" and according to the manual that means "The input signal (horizontal frequency and refresh rate)19:04
sl00does not correspond to the technical monitor data.19:04
sl00But what can I do about that ?!19:04
zippyfishwith wubi can i upgrade to 9.0419:04
Baconheartminimec: lspci says "ati es1000" it's onboard19:04
alinonTheFunkbomb: ah okay19:04
grawityproq: he's tryinc to connect to localhost.19:04
billybigriggerstefg, ya but i dont want to interfere with MY desktop, i want the remote user to be another system user, separate from my user, and local X sessions19:05
proqtheuser1: you will see the successful login text message19:05
majnoonok going to TRY a wubi upgrade :)19:05
TheFunkbombI don't know what to do about it either19:05
minimecBaconheart: http://ati.amd.com/products/server/es1000/index.html19:05
lepassivei found it it's hal-mtab but i still don't know what to do19:06
stefgbillybigrigger: i understand that... that's what NX is designed for: Terminal servers19:06
theuser1grawity:  proq thx19:06
billybigriggerstefg, ahh 10-419:06
minimecBaconheart: 'The ES1000, ATI's next generation server Graphics Processing Unit'... '2D Graphics Accelerator '19:06
theuser1grawity:  proq will open ssh server runevery time i restart my pc?19:06
TheFunkbombsigh19:06
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stefgbillybigrigger: https://launchpad.net/~freenx-team/+archive/ppa19:06
grawitytheuser1: it should, yes.19:07
theuser1grawity:  ok19:07
Baconheartminimec: well.... it was way faster prior to the upgrade to jaunty19:07
markeosl00: you might need to google up the specs for the monitor and enter them manually. I'm pulling from memory here (someone verify this please) but I think "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will let you specify refresh rate values19:07
siefnyhi all19:07
alinoni had a launchpad account to submit bugs at one time, but then i started getting wierd messages from people on there19:07
sl00markeo: But how can I run that command when I cannot even start up the live CD ?19:08
coz_Baconheart,  what was faster?19:08
markeosl00:  oh oops sorry, didn't atch the part about that being during the install. Alternate install CD perhaps?19:08
acr0nymsl00, did you do an md5 hash check on your live cd?19:08
zippyfishanybody experincing slow-ness on download fron main server19:08
LumineXCan somebody help me? Such options as Power off/Restart have disappeared from the menu toolbar after the update (Ubuntu 8.10)19:09
alinonziPPYFiSH: oF CouRSe19:09
yoasifzippyfish: yes, everyone... use a mirror19:09
coz_zippyfish, for the cd iso?19:09
mrweszippyfish: everyone is19:09
sl00acr0nym: It is actually a USB-stick(?)19:09
jelly-beanhow do i install php-devel on ubuntu 8.10?19:09
mrweszippyfish: use bitorrent19:09
zippyfishvia package manager19:09
acr0nymyeah the same :) I mean on the .iso19:09
jelly-beanwhat is the package called?19:09
sl00acr0nym: Creating using UNetbootin (because no other program worked, not even Ubuntus own) and the 8.10 LiveCD19:09
coz_jelly-bean,  open synaptic and hit search type in php and look for the dev pacakges19:09
wersis there any other x3100 user here on jaunty? does compiz work for you out of the box?19:10
coz_jelly-bean, pho-dev maybe?19:10
coz_let me check19:10
weather15I really think that ubuntu download servers should be clustered so when you download a release you will get the least used server19:10
Baconheartcoz_: the whole system... quite laggy now and xorg is utilizing 40-99% of my cpu19:10
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acr0nymsl00, I used unetbootin too, but I stumbled twice on errors caused by a faulty iso19:10
grawityweather15: That's what BitTorrent is for, I think :/19:10
jelly-beancoz_: ya i use apt-cache search but its not in there19:10
acr0nymthe md5 check definitely has to match19:10
Baconheartcoz_: I'm just trying to figure out what is wrong19:10
alinonthere's a p2p setup for upgrading, but it's still buggy19:10
coz_jelly-bean, yeah its there php5-dev19:11
gaffyOkay, I am a n00b. Is there someone there who would like to help me setup vnc4server on a Xubuntu machine?19:11
jelly-beancoz_: maybe i dont have the repo enabled. i am not seeing it. even when i saerch19:11
radarmananybody here on an eee 901/1000? my touchpad has stopped working19:11
coz_jelly-bean, gnome?19:11
danbhfiveradarman: I have a 100019:11
agooledo I need to upgrade to 8.10 before I can upgrade to 9.04 ?19:11
jelly-beancoz_: ya19:11
MrDriniI'm not on ubuntu, but I need to know what package installs beamer on latex in order to help a friend19:11
coz_jelly-bean,  system/administration/synatpic package manager19:12
coz_jelly-bean,  hit search  tyep in  pho5-dev19:12
jelly-beancoz_: i have that open too. yep did that. nothign comes up19:12
coz_jelly-bean, sorry  php5-dev19:12
radarmandanbhfive: what kernel are you running?19:12
stefggaffy: do you want an *independent* desktop for your logins or a remote desktop for your personal account ?19:12
coz_jelly-bean, ok hit the Settings menu and then repositories19:12
sl00acr0nym: 24ea1163ea6c9f5dae77de8c49ee7c03  ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso  ... seems correct19:12
jelly-beancoz_; right. there now19:12
coz_jelly-bean, first tab  make sure all four are enabled19:12
siefnythis ver ubuntustudio-9.04-alternate-amd64.iso isw stable now ??19:12
jelly-beancoz_: they are19:12
bhsxhowdy....   i just installed 9.04 with a fresh install...  I've used codeweavers crossover office for Wine for many years and hence haven't used vanilla wine...  is wine easy to use in 9.04 now that it's 1.0x?19:13
ThePhilhello, could anyone help me install 9.04?19:13
coz_jelly-bean,  ok hit the Reload button19:13
acr0nymoki19:13
bhsxis there a wine on 9.04 link somewhere ?19:13
danbhfiveradarman: the mayor one sometimes, and the jaunty beta one.  On both of those, the touchpad worked.  I've yet to upgrade to jaunty final though...19:13
TheFunkbombI went into software sources, do I need to enable some of these?19:13
agooleThePhil: i'm in the same boat :P19:13
coz_TheFunkbomb, you can enable all of them yes19:13
g4lv4tr0nhow do i change the DPI on screen so icons windows and text are smaller ?19:13
LumineXCan somebody help me? Such options as Power off/Restart have disappeared from the user switching applet menu toolbar after the update (Ubuntu 8.10)19:13
stefg!wine | bhsx19:13
ubottubhsx: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu19:13
solsticehi. i am always lost on ubuntu sites. is anyone can point me to the cd cover artwork for 9.04 ?19:13
acr0nymsl00, i just read your problem19:13
ThePhilagoole: not sure we have the same problem19:13
TheFunkbombcoz_, even the disabled ones?  I'm on 9.04 RC19:13
coz_jelly-bean,  then  try the search again for php5-deb19:13
acr0nymcan you get into a terminal/shell?19:13
coz_TheFunkbomb, which disabled ones?19:14
agooleThePhil: well, if you just want to upgrade to 9.04 right ?19:14
g4lv4tr0nhow do i change the DPI of the screen my res is 1366x768 but everything takes up too much of the screen19:14
bhsxthanks19:14
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juanefrenbittorrent links of ubuntu 9.04 are not working19:14
coz_TheFunkbomb, if they say jaunty then enable them if they say intrepid no19:14
acr0nymyou should be able to use xrandr to change your display configuration19:14
stefgjuanefren: not true19:14
proqjelly-bean: you just need to apt-get install php5-dev19:14
ThePhilagoole: i want to format my 8.10 and install 9.04 from scratch19:14
alinonif you need to upgrade to 9.04 - hit alt-F2, type update-manager -c in the run box, hit run, wait for a button to appear that asks you to upgrade, follow the directions19:14
TheFunkbombcoz_, it says "disabled to upgrade to jaunty"19:14
ThePhiland i dont know how to19:14
coz_TheFunkbomb, was this an upgrade?19:14
TheFunkbombcoz_, yes19:14
xerxesRezising xterm simply eats my cpu-Power and does a delay for min three seconds19:14
gaffystefg: I simply want to be able to log into the machine to do minor tweaks remotely. So as long as I can edit configs and execute servers it's all good. I plan to set up a Warsow and perhaps a Ventrilo server...19:15
jelly-beanproq: E: Couldn't find package php5-dev19:15
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coz_TheFunkbomb,  ok  can you pastebin   /etc/apt/sources.list19:15
agooleThePhil: then simply download the cd image and burn it to a cd, and boot up from it19:15
jelly-beancoz_; waiting for refresh19:15
acr0nymThePhil, you can format your 8.10 partition when you install 9.0419:15
TheFunkbombokay19:15
TheFunkbomb!pastebin19:15
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)19:15
coz_jelly-bean, its probably going to take some time19:15
sl00acr0nym: Well.. only if it is possible to do from the LILO bootmenu because I cannot get further than that using "Try ubuntu" ot "Install ubuntu"19:15
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werswhat's the name of the x3100 driver?19:15
proqjelly-bean: sounds like your repository server might be down.  sudo apt-get update and try again maybe19:15
ThePhilacr0nym: how do i format and tell 9.04 to install over it?19:15
xerxesim using partition encryption19:15
graingertHow can I list installed packages by size?19:15
Idespnnris there a new ubuntu-netbook-remix release?19:15
stefggaffy: so why not use plain ssh and a console ? .... afraid of the cli?19:15
weather15yes19:15
jippiehi all19:16
sinelawMazel Tov! Now how do I upgrade if i've already upgraded to the beta?19:16
jelly-beanok brb waiting for refresh19:16
TheFunkbombcoz_, how do I do that?19:16
acr0nymThePhil when you boot up the livecd follow the Install GUI it has an option to configure your partitions, you can change most of the things there19:16
ThePhilim in the live cd right now agoole19:16
sl00acr0nym: Can I get into a shell from LILO, try to fix the display somehow and the run the install?19:16
juanefrenstefg: they work, but redirect to the iso download (not the torrent)19:16
Idespnnris there an irc channel dedicated to ubuntu nbr?19:16
Idespnnror any update info on it19:16
juanefrenI am looking this ones http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt19:16
ienorandsinelaw: Automatic upgrades will do automatically19:16
coz_TheFunkbomb, ok open a terminal and tyep   sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  then open firefox and go to www.pastebin.com19:16
acr0nymsl00,  I'm not familiar with LILO, but you can always try19:16
agooleThePhil: just run the install, but keep the same partition sizes, if they're alright19:16
markeograingert: you're going to have to write a script to get the list of installed packages, dpkg -L each package, du each file, and sum it all up.19:16
agooleThePhil: and format them19:17
coz_TheFunkbomb, then copy the contents of that file and paste it into the blank area on pastebin19:17
grawitycoz_: gksudo gedit, is better for graphical programs.19:17
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stefgjuanefren: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt19:17
coz_thefish,   then hit the submit button and paste the link here19:17
TheFunkbombcoz_, yeah, I figured it out19:17
graingertmarkeo, I only want the top few19:17
sinelawienorand, ok19:17
sl00acr0nym: Hmm okey. So there is no obvious way to do it from the boot menu then?19:17
acr0nymsl00,  what kind of hardware do you have? perhaps this problem has been solved on the forums19:17
coz_graingert,  yes I am so used to using gedit19:17
gimhalosI just installed xp under vbox and the mouse isn't syncing well. When I move the mouse around it's choppy and inaccurate. Any ideas?19:17
graingertwhere are deb packages chached?19:17
TheFunkbombcoz_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/156675/19:17
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Idespnnrgimhalos: did you install the guest additions?19:18
BilgeWhy does launchpad.net generally fail to load19:18
alinongimhalos: have you installed guest addtions?19:18
gimhalosIdespnnr: Nope... How would I go about doing that?19:18
Ard1anWhere can i find java Development Kit (JDK) To Download ?19:18
orudiehow is new ubuntu ?19:18
stefgjuanefren: works for me... i get good spped for all iso-images19:18
gaffystefg: I am willing to learn, it's all textbased, correct? What do you mean by "cli"?19:18
coz_TheFunkbomb,  ok that actually looks ok19:18
Idespnnrgimhalos: lemme check, 1 sec...19:18
ThePhilacr0nym: theres a manual install in which i can erase a partition but then i have to make a new primary, logical partition, i just want to point to the 8.10 and make it format and install, is that possible? (excuse my poor english)19:18
BobCFCorudie, faster and more refined19:18
stefggaffy: command line interface19:18
agooleArd1an: just run a search for it, aptitude search java19:18
markeograingert: or alternatively the script can do an "apt-cache info" for each installed package and grep for 'Installed Size', that's the only place I know where the info is listed and that's likely to be inaccurate, as it's the size as distributed, not after you make any changes you make19:18
g4lv4tr0nhi i was using juanty rc does it automatically upgrade to jaunty final case update-manager -d does nothing ???19:19
grawitygaffy: "CLI" is command-line interface, the thing you get when you open Terminal.19:19
Idespnnrgimhalos: start the virtual ubuntu machine19:19
markeograingert: but you're asking for a clik-or-single-command-way to do this, and it's not there.19:19
TheFunkbombcoz_, but it won't let me run update manager.  It says it can't authenticate19:19
jippiei've installed kubuntu 9.04 with the latest updates. I have a problem with my desktop which hangs every now and then. I think I found a solution. It requires an x.org update19:19
Pici!final | g4lv4tr0n19:19
jippieHow can i update my x.org installation when there is no update available from "add and remove software" yet?19:19
ubottug4lv4tr0n: If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Jaunty. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.19:19
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MorclyeI'm installing SB X-Fi driver to Jaunty but I don't understand what and how I need to edit header file, needed information is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/156676/19:19
coz_TheFunkbomb,  are you already updated to jaunty correct?19:19
sl00acr0nym: I have not found anything regarding this via google.com19:19
Idespnnrgimhalos: when it boots up, in the Vbox window, do Devices -> install guest additions19:19
TheFunkbombcoz_, yes19:19
juanefrenstefg: for me works as direct download not torrent download... how ever 8.04 links works as fine as torrents19:19
acr0nymThePhil, yes it is possible, I can't remember how it looked out of my head, but you should be able to go into advanced settings somewhere, specifiy the partition you want to use (rightclick with your mouse)19:19
coz_TheFunkbomb,  ok  close synapitc  if its open and open a terminal19:19
gimhalosidespnnr: Thanks, I'll do that now19:19
coz_TheFunkbomb,  sudo apt-ge19:19
sl00acr0nym: Maybe I can edit the xorg.conf or something on the USB-stick before ?? Do not know where to look tho?19:19
ralmarHey guys I have a little problem with firefox and torrents. Even though I have Deluge set as my default torrent client when i try to download a torrent file from firefox it only asks me if i want to open it with Transmission. Deluge is not on the list and i dont know how to ad it because i dont know where the executable file is. In windows I know it would be in C:/Program Files/Deluge/Deluge.exe (with backlashes) any help? Thanks19:19
markeojippie: if you don't have updates showing, then there aren't updates available.19:19
Idespnnrnp19:19
stefggaffy: so if it's just editing configs you'll be better off to use just ssh... you can even tunnel a X remote session by ssh -X ... but that'S quite bandwidth-hungry19:19
Ard1an<agoole>  Where To Search ?19:20
ComradeHow do you make apache in ubuntu use another index other than the one in /var/www?19:20
g4lv4tr0ncool :)19:20
coz_TheFunkbomb, sudo apt-get update  then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade19:20
graingertmarkeo, wajig large does it19:20
agooleArd1an: if you open up the console,19:20
harnakWondering if someone using a fresh install can paste the ls of /etc/fonts/conf.d/  (I've screwed up my fonts and I want to start over )19:20
sl00acr0nym: Like change the default video mode it uses for the install.19:20
sl00?19:20
gaffystefg: Of course it is a bit scary... Not knowing how they work you are oftenly bound to hit a wall.19:20
agooleArd1an: type that in, and it will look among all the packages for java related ones19:20
markeoralmar: open a terminal and type "which deluge"19:20
graingertmarkeo, that's shut you up 'aint it19:20
BobCFCralmar, browse to /usr/bin/deluge19:20
jippiemarkeo: x.org themselves have a newer version, but it is not available in ubuntu package mgmt19:20
CydeWeysOh God, the updater is prompting me to restart.19:20
hbekelralmar: man which19:20
CydeWeysI will see you guys on the flip side, in Ubuntu 9.0419:20
CydeWeys(Assuming my system boots; if it doesn't, I'll have to go visit it later tonight.)19:21
acr0nymsl00, that used to be possible, not sure if it still works the same way since xorg.conf is now generated19:21
coz_CydeWeys, good luck there guy:)19:21
markeograingert: so you're askign the anser to a question which you already know, and giving me grief because I didn't know the magic answer?19:21
g4lv4tr0nhow do i change the dpi of my screen ???19:21
acr0nymsl00, I still think there should be an easier way to your problem19:21
alinoni wish we could get free distro's on disc on the mail during every cycle ;)19:21
techqbertQuick Q guys: how stable does 9.04 look? 0-10?19:21
TheFunkbombcoz_, step one is good.  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is waiting19:21
alinon*in the mail19:21
markeojippie: I would have strong recommendations against trying to build your own X packages, that's asking for a world of hurt19:21
stefggaffy: know DOS, know NC? then you can run 'mc' on a ssh console.... good old (TM) two pane fole manger and an editor that easy to comprehend19:21
ralmarmarkeo, BobCFC, hbekel, thanks19:21
jojoman02g4lv4tr0n: you can go to appearance under settings19:21
joaopinto!tpoll | techqbert19:21
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about tpoll19:21
jojoman02g4lv4tr0n: then fonts19:21
joaopinto!poll | techqbert19:21
ubottutechqbert: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.19:21
ljuwaidahfuck me! i downloaded 8.10!!! stupid!19:21
sl00acr0nym: Seems kinda hard when I cannot make any changes using LILO options.19:22
ComradeHow do you make apache in ubuntu use another index other than the one in /var/www?19:22
TheFunkbomb!language19:22
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.19:22
joaopinto!language ljuwaidah19:22
Piciljuwaidah: Please mind your language in this channel.19:22
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:22
jippiemarkeo: my world hurts already, every few hours my system crashes19:22
acr0nymsl00, you downloaded the .iso, checked the md5 sum, used unetbootin to put it on a usb, you boot from the usb...19:22
jojoman02ljuwaidah: lol, download using torrent it's wayy faster19:22
scunizi!language | ljuwaidah19:22
ubottuljuwaidah: please see above19:22
BobCFCralmar, you only have to do it once then FF remembers19:22
acr0nymsl00: where exactly do you get stuck?19:22
incorrectshould i wipe my system and start again? or should I upgrade?19:22
TheFunkbombcoz_, it's not connecting to the ubuntu server :/19:22
jojoman02!torrent19:22
ubottuTorrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P19:22
coz_TheFunkbomb,  the dist-upgrade is going to be slow because everyone is hitting the servers19:22
gimhalosidespnnr: Thanks :) That fixed everything.19:22
alinonweather15: is that free?19:22
TheFunkbombcoz_, I figured as much19:22
ljuwaidahsorry19:22
graingertmarkeo, no, I found it out myself19:22
Ard1anagoole Look  at PrivatMessage Please :$19:22
g4lv4tr0ni want to change dpi though so it changes the windows sizes and icon sizes too19:22
agooleis the ext 4 filesystem worth a clean format ?19:22
hocine21Hello word !19:23
gaffystefg: I have a bit of DOS experience, yes... still, how do I set this ssh up?19:23
markeograingert: lol :) fair enough19:23
ljuwaidahit's just frustrating knowing i wasted the past 3 hours downloading 8.10!!!19:23
jojoman02agoole: from what i hear, yes, there might be minor bugs though...19:23
stefggaffy: give it a try... 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server mc' on the server-machine , then just 'ssh <your server ip> form your desktop...19:23
ShennyHello, is there an alternative for Nero burning rom (windows) in Ubuntu ? : I want to burn an audio CD19:23
joaopintoagoole, if you are looking for performance, yes19:23
scunizi!ssh | gaffy19:23
ubottugaffy: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/19:23
alinoncool thanks, last i seen i thought i had to pay19:23
agoolejojoman02: minor bugs eh, such as ?19:23
dade`youtube is down19:23
neggeI'm currently on Intrepid and thinking about upgrading to Jaunty. I have an Nvidia GeForce 9400GT graphics card and I'm using the version 180.xx of the proprietary driver. Will this driver work after upgrading or do I have to wait a few weeks ?19:23
jojoman02agoole: lets see if i can get u an article....19:23
joaopintoShenny, the default cd burner that comes with Ubuntu allows you to burn audio cds19:23
dade`vmmouse does not sync with host os using ubuntu 9.04 as guest <- who can help ?19:23
jippieShenny: try k3b19:23
BobCFCagoole, yes I was so impressed I did all my data drives too. lots of copying lol19:24
scunizinegge: should work but you'll have to reinstall it19:24
TheFunkbombcoz_, can I just leave terminal open and wait?19:24
sl00acr0nym: After I select "try ubuntu..." or "install ubuntu" from the bootmenu it loads for awhile. Then the "out of range" comes up and I cannot do anything. I do get the orange loading bar for aqhile so some video mode should work. However I know I got 720x(something) on another monitor but then I could not install because the windows got outside the screen (could not press buttons etc).19:24
sl00acr0nym: So I need a mode higher than that atleast.19:24
neggescunizi: okay but there's a new version that works with the new X server version then?19:24
LuminexDo somebody have trouble with "user switch apllet"? I can't find items "Power off", 'Restart"19:24
coz_TheFunkbomb, you could sure  but guesses are it is going to take some time I would try later or tomorrow19:24
weboidenegge: I'm using 180.44 on Jaunty right now, and it works, I have effects working.19:24
scunizinegge: did you install the driver from the ubuntu repos or direct from a download off the nvidia site?19:24
joaopintoLuminex, those options show fine here19:25
TheFunkbombI'll just wait.  I have nothing better to do with my life19:25
Shennyjoaopinto i tried but it doesnt give me any choice (to choose convert mp3's to Audio like in Nero)19:25
neggeweboide: okay sounds great, guess I'll start upgrading tonight then.19:25
agooleBobCFC: yeah I was trying ot avoid copying all my data, haha19:25
BobCFCLuminex, did you install the alpha Jaunty, they changed it part way through19:25
acr0nymsl00, can't think of a solution out of my head but I'll google maybe I'll find something19:25
xerxesAny X11 geek here?19:25
joaopintoShenny, ah, you want to convert to mp3, tha is another story19:25
neggescunizi: I installed it the "normal" way through System -> Admin --> Hardware drivers so I guess it should all go smoothly19:25
sl00acr0nym: Okey.. thanks19:25
juanefrenstefg: It works now, I don't understand what was happening, thanks19:25
markeojippie: If you're running the eye candy, turn it off and install the nonfree drivers for your video card :)   But seriously, the xserver is something astoundingly complex in its package hierarchy; I've been using *n?x OSes for close to 20 years and I cringe when the thought of compiling X comes up :)19:25
joaopinto!mp3 | Shenny19:25
ubottuShenny: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats19:25
scunizinegge: should .. if you did as weboide did then you'd probably have to reinstall19:25
topriddyPlease which chm reader should I use on ubuntu19:26
zimnyxHard drive diode in my laptop blinks almost all the time, how can I check what process is using hard disk?19:26
markeojippie: Imagine doing brain surgery. Blindfolded. On the back of a jetski. That's in freefall out of the back of a plane. While drunk. That's what building out your own set of X packages will probably be like :)19:26
BobCFCtopriddy, CHMsee19:26
pacejrzimnyx: try iotop19:26
stefg!info iotop | markeo19:26
ubottumarkeo: iotop (source: iotop): simple top-like I/O monitor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-3 (jaunty), package size 12 kB, installed size 140 kB19:26
geniisl00: Use kernel option of vga=XXX where XXX is some number combination for the resolution you need. A small chart of them is here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/blog/archtoad6-147095/2007/12/29/vga-resolution-codes-for-grub-and-lilo-830/19:26
jojoman02agoole: it's mostly theoretical bugs, i don't think you'll have problems, it's stable in kernel, so i say go for it...19:26
neggescunizi: and he did it how?19:26
joaopintozimnyx, if your system is idle, looking at top could help, whatever is the process is probably also using CPU19:27
ienorandharnak: I'm not on a completely fresh install but afaik I have not edited any fonts configs... I've packed the contents of the conf.d directory, you want?19:27
* markeo points at zimnyx 19:27
agooleok19:27
agooleso a clean install it is....19:27
scunizinegge: he has a driver that he downloaded direct from nvidia.. you don't have to worry about that... yet19:27
agooleugh19:27
weboideI have a regression from intrepid. My cdrom drive is not usable with nautlis/cdrecord/wodim and cannot be mounted. hwinfo -cdrom gives me accurate info on it though.19:27
GleepGlopWhat are the correct permissions for /tmp   ?19:27
proqjelly-bean: you're going to be waiting a long time it seems... the servers are all very busy today19:27
zimnyxjoaopinto: It was the 1st thing I did, but CPU is idle.19:27
agooleI added more ram, so I should resize the swap I guess19:27
jelly-beanproq: ya it sucks19:27
sl00genii: But it seems to be a refresh-rate problem. I have tried vga=771 which is 800x600x256colors... that should work everywhere IMO19:28
BobCFCagoole, I don't even have a swap anymore19:28
jelly-beanproq: it worked tho19:28
topriddynot gnochm... I'll have to quit then19:28
proqjelly-bean: there are probably some mirrors no one knows about19:28
markeozimnyx: also if you want some io stats over time, install the 'atsar' package and use 'sar' to look for the IO stats19:28
ienorandhttp://www.mibbit.com/up/WtqGz4pO.gz << harnak19:28
acr0nymsl00, if I remember you can press tab at grub to change the boot options19:28
jelly-beancoz_: it works thnx19:28
nepseayone else getting "Error reading boot CD" from the latest release?19:28
acr0nymcan you try that?19:28
zimnyxmarkeo: thanks.19:28
agooleBobCFC: why not ?19:28
incorrectext4 seems to tempting19:28
coz_jelly-bean, cool19:28
sl00acr0nym: Yes I know that (I thought it used LILO btw) but I do not know what option to set :)19:28
markeothat will at least give you a benchmark of what the true IO is, because you may actually just be seeing a lot of acive filesytem cleanup going on19:28
sidewalkhow do i get my nvidia card working in jaunty?19:28
koleso im told jaunty is out now... im running the RC and update manager says nothing... how do I upgrade?19:28
BobCFCagoole, try as I might I can't fill the ram up, even with VirtualBox getting 2gb lol19:28
incorrectis anyone here using ext4?19:28
sidewalkwith them nvidia drivers19:29
neggescunizi: okay19:29
acr0nymsl00, have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers19:29
danbhfive!final > kole19:29
ubottukole, please see my private message19:29
GleepGlopWhat are the correct permissions for /tmp dir anyone?19:29
agooleBobCFC: how much ram are you using ?19:29
acr0nymtry one of those numbers19:29
agooleBobCFC: I have about 2.5 gigs,19:29
bytor4232quick question, can't I just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change intrepid to jaunty, then run apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade?19:29
gaffystefg: okay, now I am at a prompt called gaffy@GAFFY-servers~$ By the way, did you mean I should input "ssh <server IP>" from the a client computer?19:29
stefggaffy: right19:29
BobCFCagoole, I used to have 8gb but a stick broke I have 6 temporarily19:29
markeoBobCFC: I can suggest an application or two to help with your "lack of necessity of a swap partition" problem, like Eclipse :D19:29
danbhfivebytor4232: no19:29
topriddyCan I know why my Ubuntu doesnt Hibernate please???19:29
sl00acr0nym: Yes I will but still... that only changes resolution. BRB gonna try some of them out19:29
BobCFCmarkeo, hehe java apps will do it yes19:30
theuser1grawity:  proq is it cumpulsory to use port 22 for ssh or i can use an other for security.?19:30
agooleBobCFC: damn, so I should stick with some swap, just to make sure,19:30
graingerttopriddy, what version of nvidia drivers do you have19:30
graingerttopriddy, assuming you are an NV man19:30
markeoBobCFC: Yes sir, yes sir they will indeed heh19:30
gaffystefg: I only have windows clients...19:30
stefggaffy: so you connect to the remote machine by ssh (secure shell)...  ssh user@remote-machine19:30
BobCFCagoole, yes sorry when you said added more I thought you meant a lot sorry19:30
grawitytheuser1: You can use any port -- change in /etc/ssh/sshd_config -- but it doesn't add any real security.19:30
orudiehow can i update ubuntu server from 8.10 to9.04 ?19:30
stefggaffy: get putty19:30
stefg!puuty19:30
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about puuty19:30
stefg!putty19:30
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/19:30
theuser1grawity: why so. why not any addirtional security?19:31
stefggaffy: that's a ssh client for win machines19:31
geniisl00: Suggest to use then perhaps the Alternate install CD, which has text based install system19:31
racecar56 19:31
bytor4232okay, i'll run:  do-release-upgrade19:31
bytor4232on debian I've always just changed the release name.19:31
agooleBobCFC: I would, except i'm hoping to ditch this rig soon, so I just got enough to last me19:31
Rapachooieso where are the complaints about 9.0419:31
grawitytheuser1: There are tools such as 'nmap' that can check all ports on your system and see what's running on them, in only ~5 minutes.19:31
Rapachooie:)19:31
markeotheuser1: because it takes a hacker about 12 seconds to find any open port and what app is running on that port19:31
danbhfive!upgrade > orudie19:31
ubottuorudie, please see my private message19:31
graingertRapachooie, dunno19:32
danbhfive!notes > Rapachooie19:32
ubottuRapachooie, please see my private message19:32
toughbookanyone can help ? http://www.pastebin.ca/140118819:32
BobCFCthe new livecd boots of a cheap usb flash-drive faster than windows of a HD now, amazing19:32
theuser1graw19:32
graingertmarkeo, and? it's not like you can do much with them if you know that19:32
m0RrEhaha19:32
m0RrEBobCFC: that19:32
theuser1grawity:  markeo ok19:32
majnoondoes jaunty have wubi included also //19:32
majnoon??19:32
grawitytheuser1: So if someone has chosen your PC as his target, changing port won't add any protection.19:32
m0RrEsthat's becaus windows sucks19:32
markeotheuser1: moving services around is considered "security through obscurity" which is kind of like parking your car but instead of locking the doors you tape a paper bag over the handle in the hopes the thief is too stupid to peel back the tape :D19:32
sl00genii: Yes that is an option... sad one though :) I have had some kind of resolution problem on all computers I have tried to install on. Kinda sucks :(19:32
sidewalkhow do i get them nvidia drivers working in Jaunty?19:32
r3z!final > r3z19:32
ubottur3z, please see my private message19:32
markeo(it just doesn't work)19:32
acr0nymtoughbook, not sure what you are trying to do but did you use sudo?19:32
jbdoes anyone have dual video cards working in 9.04 with xrandr 1.3?19:33
majnoon!wubi19:33
ubottuWubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.19:33
Rapachooie:) i had 2 major problems and I think ill wait a week or so til updates are released19:33
theuser1grawity:  markeo ok.19:33
Rapachooiejb: I cant even get an x3100 working19:33
toughbookacr0nym: installing wacom19:33
pacejrany r300-r500 users upgraded yet?19:33
majnoonis wubi included in 9.04 ??19:33
BobCFCsidewalk, it should popip asking you after a few mins, if not goto System->Admin->Hardware Drivers19:33
the_dark_warrioI will make a fresh installation of Ubuntu. My HD is divided in the following way: 1 partition for /root and another one for /home. My user was ian-beta, so all my files are in /home/ian-beta. I`m going to create the user /home/ian for this new installation. My question is: can I delete the ian-beta folder after installing? will it break anything?19:33
sidewalkBobCFC: nothing happens when i go there19:33
danbhfivethe_dark_warrio: you won't break anything, you will just loose all your settings and files19:34
geniisl00: You may want to consider getting a better monitor, which can do the refresh rates your card is producing19:34
Idespnnrthe_dark_warrio: not if its a fresh install. And if you dont mind loosing files19:34
markeothe_dark_warrio: as long as you never need to log in as the old user for any purpose and you've copied over your important files to the new homedir, nope, no problem.19:34
jbi need to figure out how to use 2 video cards19:34
minimecpacejr: updated a r350 radeon 9600. 3D Acceleration is ok. Compiz is buggy. I have random system freezes.19:34
jb3 monitors19:34
jb:/19:34
stefgthe_dark_warrio: copy it over and 'chown' the directory19:34
lucaxbig issues with intel x3100 on jaunty and some times it doesnt even shutdown...19:34
markeostefg++ for copy 'n' chown19:34
zubuntuhello.everybody i wanna use Ubuntu in internet cafe .how to use it?please help19:35
acr0nymtoughbook, did you try ./configure before doing a make ?19:35
toughbookyep19:35
the_dark_warriodanbhfive: Idespnnr: markeo: stefg: thanks for the tips!19:35
BobCFCis it an old nvidia card? you might have to search for your model in particular for help then19:35
pacejrminimec: were you using fglrx in 8.10?19:35
minimecpacejr: Jaunty wasn't usable with my ati x1250. The driver was not capable to display 1680x105019:35
theuser1grawity:  markeo iam trying to connect to my ip my self. but its stuck on Connecting to 116.71.188.237 [116.71.188.237] port 22.19:35
ayilmaz1i am running shell-fm in gnome-terminal under profile named "shell-fm". how can i manipulate the terminal window title for that profile from commandline?19:35
toughbookim following this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-956536.html19:35
markeozubuntu: make a bootable usb install, there are docs out there ont he net to do so, but I'll be surprised if they let you reboot a cafe machine19:36
Tr4sKouiLLeHi :)19:36
BG__#ubuntu-fr19:36
toughbookusing the 8.10 guide on 9.0419:36
markeotheuser1: Is that your IP?  If you're sure (check the output of '/sbin/ifconfig'), then try 'iptables -L'19:36
pacejrminimec: the mode wasn't detected? did you add it to your xorg.conf manually?19:36
minimecpacejr: Yes I use INtrepid with fglrx on the system with the x1250. I use the official ati driver from the amd/ati homepage. The newest and last is 9.3 with included indirect rendering. I use dirver 9.2.19:36
markeo theuser1: (to see if you have firewalling rules applied)19:37
toughbooki know there is the new wacom xorg thing but cant get it calibrated correctly19:37
firsmAnyone know how to move/drag a gnome panel to the second monitor?19:37
harisundpeople .. how do I start into non-graphics mode and execute GDM when I want it? Back in the day it had something to do with editing an inittab file to change default run level to 3 instead of 5 ..19:37
markeotheuser1: also, look at /etc/ssh/sshd_config and make sure that the ListenAddress isn't set to just 127.0.0.119:37
jbso annoying that 2 video cards still won't work :)19:37
jojoman02toughbook: i think there is a tutorial somewhere online, google for it19:37
JdbanWhere can I find the checksums for 9.04 (netbook remix in my case)19:37
markeofirsm: just drag it19:38
orudiei have never seen so many people in this channel before19:38
firsmmarkeo: that's not working, can't drag it19:38
rskiorudie: always extra people around releasetimes19:38
brandonmpacelol I've seen more19:38
BobCFCfirsm, press Alt and drag19:38
jojoman02orudie: that makes 2 of us, i think we're all hear for new ubuntu release, this is like a virtual release party, lol...19:38
majnoonthis downloading SLOOOOOOOOW19:38
majnoon!ot19:38
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!19:38
firsmBobCFC: thanks, that worked.19:38
markeofirsm: you have to drag from a place where there are no apps/buttons, with the left mouse. I just did it, but then I'm still mid-upgrade to 9.0419:38
minimecpacejr: I tried the Live CD of jaunty ajckalope and added 'Virtual 1680 1050' as Subseciton Display in Section screen. That gave me 1680x1050, but the 'image-quality' wasn't good.19:38
theuser1markeo: what should be the listen address instead of 127.0.0.119:39
grawitytheuser1: 0.0.0.019:39
markeoI would be surprised if it changed but it's possible19:39
firsmmarkeo: the alt key did it, thanks.19:39
BobCFCmarkeo, they changed it you have to press alt now to drag19:39
lucaxi upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 and have problems with intel X3100 gma and shuting down the system if I do a clean install will that be solved?19:39
harisundAnyone? How do I boot into text mode only without starting GDM? Where's /etc/inittab these days?19:39
SookeHi All19:39
pacejrharisund: IRC, debian and ubuntu start x at runlevel 3, redhat and family start it at runlevel 5.19:39
theuser1grawity: why is that so?19:39
grawity!upstart | harisund19:39
ubottuharisund: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/19:39
issaHello guys, how can I download kernel 2.6.27.7 while I have Jaunty? The repos do not contain it .. can i mix two repos of two versions together?19:39
harisundah there we go ... thanks grawity and pacjr .. let me have a look at that19:39
markeotheuser1: just comment out the ListenAddress lines and ssh will listen on all network interfaces19:39
Luiswuany netatalk gurus on?19:39
grawitytheuser1: 0.0.0.0 means "listen on all interfaces"19:39
BobCFCmarkeo, firsm you can also use Alt to move a window if you can't see the titlebar19:39
SookeI upgraded from 8.10 32 bits to 9.04 using the updater and after all the process and booting, I still have the same as before, any clue?19:39
grawitytheuser1: Just comment out all the ListenAddress lines.19:40
minimecharisund: When GRUB starts, hit the ESCkey and start in recovery mode19:40
mcasadevallThat's freaking lame19:40
firsmBobCFC: ah that's good to know, thanks for the tip19:40
SookeSame Kernel, same Ubuntu version and same Gnome version ¿?19:40
markeotheuser1: after making that edit don't forget to restart the ssh daemon with /etc/init.d/ssh start"19:40
brandonmpaceSooke: do a clean install. it's always best19:40
harisundminimec: that's not what I want .. I have tried that. I don't want recovery mode.19:40
grawitymarkeo: 'restart'19:40
harisundminimec: What I want is to boot into the terminal, not into the GDM login screen19:40
markeowoops ty grawity19:40
dronixwhat is v9.04 name?19:40
pacejrminimec: how bad are the crashes with the 9600?19:40
markeothe fingers are still not following the brain, I should go get coffee19:40
whatteyjaunty something19:40
Sookebrandon_m_pace, that's what I was afraid, however if it is so unastable why the updater is still working for that?19:40
sidewalkseriously, how do i get my nvidia working properly? :-)19:40
grawitydronix: Jaunty Jallow, I think.19:40
jojoman02dronix: jaunty jackalope19:40
grawityAh, right.19:41
sidewalkdo i need to install envy?19:41
sv_osusr1is it possible to compile compiz without xgl acceleration support?19:41
dronixthank you19:41
JdbanWhere are the checksum values online for 9.04?19:41
minimecharisund: so <ctrl><alt>F1 ;)19:41
jojoman02Jdban: torrent.ubuntu.com has them19:41
theuser1grawity: markeo ok19:41
jojoman02Jdban: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/19:42
minimecpacejr: Froma simple X-restart to a complete system freeze. COmpiz is buggy. Without compiz, I don't have any problems.19:42
synnaxhi, can maybe somebody help me plz. I tried to install the new Ubuntu with a live-CD. It actually started correctly, asked me for the language and what I wanted to do (Live-CD boot, install etc) but when I choose to boot Ubuntu without installing, it starts, but then it seems to have a problem with the gpu or something. It doesn't dislpay correctly, actually it only shows some coloured...19:42
synnax...vertical lines. Someone knows what to do? Would be very thankful. (Btw, I had once installed Ubuntu correctyl on this pc without problems)19:42
SookeBUT a CLEAN installation means to lose all the data19:42
harisundminimec: That is not the fix, is it. That still has GDM running in the background. I just did a /etc/init.d/gdm stop and I am now reading how to stop services from starting thanks to the upstart document someone provided earlier.19:42
theuser1# Change to no to disable tunnelled clear text passwords19:42
theuser1#PasswordAuthentication yes19:42
theuser1?19:42
grawitytheuser1: Don't touch that yet.19:42
racecar56you made a secret IRC chabnnel19:43
racecar56*channel19:43
theuser1grawity:  ok19:43
jojoman02synnax you gotta mess with the param in the beginning, there is a Function key that gives you a list of options i would look online with ur gpu because most likely other users have similar problem and have a solution19:43
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frostburngreetings, I've upgraded to 9.04 and gfs no longer works, infact i can't even start gnome-terminal I'm getting the" error: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so: undefined symbol: g_vfs_icon_get_type"   launchpad is down too =(19:43
Shortguy109Does anyone know why my mic isn't working for skype? it used to before i got the new KDE thing :o19:43
alinonHMM iT GoT QuieT19:43
acr0nymShortguy109, define new KDE thing :P19:43
Shortguy109ummm19:44
Shortguy109i'll ask my brother19:44
Shortguy109xD gimme a sec19:44
synnaxok, I'll look for some informaiton, thx jojoman0219:44
alinonanyone finding that the launchpad server is getting pounded / not working atm?19:44
markeosynnax: try running 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and enable use of the framebufffer, that may work for you19:44
alinoni can't order a cd from shipit :(19:44
thorn_PLhi all19:44
racecar56hi19:44
harisundneither is us.archive.ubuntu.com or something working for me, alinon19:44
acr0nymShortguy109,  go into terminal, type "alsamixer" and look if you can put a microphone setting there higher19:44
markeoalinon: yes, they are aware and working on it19:44
st3ve-0Hi everyone, when I go to open up the package manager I get and error message saying "Could not initialize the package information"  "An unresolvable problem occurred while initalizing...  Can anyone help me fix this problem?19:44
sourcemakerfucking shit... how can I configure my wlan interface via command line?19:44
Shortguy109okay19:44
alinonmarkeo: thanks19:44
markeost3ve-0: servers are getting pounded by a few million concurrent users :)  Just keep trying19:45
acr0nymShortguy109, you can use tab to switch between settings19:45
minimecsourcemaker: iwconfig19:45
harisundok guys. I want to know what exactly the term "upstream" means .. I keep seeing it everywhere but have no idea...19:45
dt3ksourcemaker: iwconfig19:45
thorn_PLanybody can tell me how to install skype on ubuntu 9.04 amd64 ?19:45
st3ve-0ok ty19:45
alinonlooks like a few people must have finished upgrading hah ;) my download speed is steady at 48.7kb/sec now19:45
acr0nymman iwconfig :P19:45
alinonthorn_PL: sure19:45
theuser1grawity:  markeo cant log in . dont know why19:45
Shortguy109how do i know which one's the mic?19:45
pacejrminimec: thanks. it's lame that there's a gap between the dropped support in fglrx and the new radeon driver stack coming to the end user19:45
acr0nymShortguy109, look for "capture"19:45
thorn_PLalinon :)19:45
sourcemakerdt3k: i tries this a add this to the /etc/network/interface config19:45
theuser1grawity:  markeo iam using my own pc as server and as client.19:46
Shortguy109i see that19:46
Shortguy1093 of them19:46
acr0nymnow press the up arrow19:46
grawitytheuser1: Have you restarted sshd?19:46
tjohnsonrg19:46
Shortguy109turned all 3 up to 100 :)19:46
acr0nymput them all up till it works19:46
acr0nym:)19:46
Shortguy109wud it work now? :o19:46
acr0nymonly one way to find out :)19:46
sourcemakerdt3k:  like wireless yes19:46
sourcemakerwireless-essid WLAN-ID19:46
minimecpacejr: I agree, but I guess (hope) that there are better days to come for us.19:46
stefgharisund: upstream is the developers, or debian in case of ubuntu... the raw material that gets packaged and tweaked to form a distribution ....19:46
Shortguy109kk! thx very much19:46
sourcemakerdt3k: and so on... but no connection possible19:46
erUSULharisund: the vanilla kernel from kernel.org managed by Linus Torvalds is the "upstream" of the modified ubuntu kernel. The gnome released by gnome.org is the upstream of the (modified) gnome packages that form ubuntu19:46
theuser1grawity:  ya. * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd19:46
markeotheuser1: did you see anything u nder the INPUT chain when you typed "iptables -L"?19:47
stefg!debian | harisund19:47
ubottuharisund: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!19:47
danbhfiveanyone know anything about the lpia alternate cd of jaunty?19:47
Ben90hi19:47
sidewalkhow do i get my nvidia working fully in Jaunty?19:48
sidewalkdo ineed to use envy?19:48
loafersWhen I upgrade to 9.04 and restart the computer will my volume be reset?  Because I'm in class right now and I would hate to have it blast everyone's ears19:48
theuser1markeo: ya many things in input19:48
markeosidewalk: no, there's a Hardware Drivers panel under theSystem->Administration menu19:48
Baconheartanyone know why my xorg is running at 99% of my cpu?  proformance is crap after upgrade to juanty.19:48
orudiewhich irc client do you guys use that automatically puts a : at the end of the nick ?19:48
harisundstefg and erUSUL so upstream is where the software is obtained from, before being modified for use in Ubuntu? Does that mean if I download an upstream package (as in from source and then compile it) it might behave differently compared to the one I would have otherwise obtained through apt-get?19:48
ipcree19:48
sidewalkmarkeo: but my graphics driver doesnt show up there19:49
grawityorudie: irssi, Xchat, almost all do that.19:49
zanberdoI'm looking for the cli equivalent for 'software sources'. I'd like to have my system try various sources, find the best one, and update sources.list, but this is for a server with no gui19:49
stefgharisund: right...19:49
grawityorudie: Type "gra" and press Tab.19:49
sidewalki have a GeForce 8600M GT rev 16119:49
Jdbanmy checksum of the ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix said 1 error, is it safe to install it?19:49
orudiegrawity, yeah i know about tab, using xchat it puts a comma19:49
jippiei installed like a week a ago from 9.04 beta alternet CD. The system largely works fine, but where is mij /etc/X11/xorg.conf?19:49
yoasiforudie: using irssi here19:49
Ben90i want to know what would make my system just black out and just go back to the log-in screen19:49
grawityorudie: I think it can be changed easily.19:49
harisundstefg all right thanks19:49
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weather15Anyone else having a slow download of 9.04?19:50
stefglol19:50
alinonhrm kronix has 2 clones O.o19:50
orudiegrawity: changed19:50
psyt7hhaving a problem installing jaunty using a live usb. nothing happens when I try to boot it. anyone here experiencing this behaviour?19:50
bardunweather15: i guess it would depend what mirror you're using19:50
BobCFCorudie, goto Settings->Input Box, Nick Completion Suffix19:50
bauerbobhi19:50
Ben90can someone please help me?19:50
markeotheuser1: does it have lines with port numbers, IP addresses and the like, o is it all just stuff like "Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)" and "target   prot opt source   destination"?19:50
theuser1grawity:  markeo what can e wrong19:50
alinonjust ask ben9019:51
danbhfivezanberdo: maybe apt-spy?19:51
r3zBen90, if your screen dumps you back to a login after going balck it sounds like X is crashing.19:51
markeosidewalk: is the box for enabling non-free drivers checked?19:51
bubbahi, how can i install ubuntu netbook remix?19:51
JockyWilsonCloning a ext4 inode 256 partition.... is clonezilla now able to handle the new ext4 inode 256 format19:51
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Ben90alinon, when im doing something that involves the internet or file transfer my system blacks out and goes back to the login screen19:51
Ben90alinon, how do i fix that19:52
orudieis irssi free ?19:52
theuser1markeo http://pastebin.com/m324e3cae19:52
rskiorudie: yes19:52
Ben90alinon, it only happens when i use the linux -lowlatency kernel19:52
orudiegonna try it now19:52
bauerbobBen90, why do you use the lowlatency kernel?19:52
alinonhave you checked the forums and bug reports already?19:53
jippiewhy is my /etc/X11/xorg.conf empty?19:53
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markeotheuser1: You have firewall rules which should be allowing traffic there19:53
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bauerbobjippie, because recent xorg versions don't need it anymore19:53
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Ben90my system gets really choppy on the standard kernel19:53
raphaYAY!! Got it installed :-)))19:53
markeotheuser1: specifically lines 44&4519:53
lemmyHi, I've just upgrade to 9.04 and not X freezes and I can't even revive the system with sysrq key (e.g. killing x). I just see a garbaged startup screen after x flickering a couple of times before.19:53
JockyWilsonanyone cloned a ext4 inode256 partition and what clone program worked for you?19:53
bauerbobBen90, it's a desktop computer, isn't it?19:53
lemmys/not/now19:53
stefgjippie: because xorg turned into a smarta??19:53
jippiebauerbob: then is it still possible to add changes to xorg.conf??19:53
neggeupgrading to Jaunty is incredibly slow at the moment... :(19:53
raphaLooks & feels very smooth so far ... mobile broadband was as easy as pie19:54
zanberdodanbhfive, sorry, no apt-spy19:54
Ben90yes its a dell optiplex gx110 desktop pc19:54
grawitybauerbob: Does 8.10's Xorg still need it? Because when I installed Ubuntu Minimal and then installed X, it didn't work until I created an xorg.conf19:54
alinonBen90: not too familiar with that issue ben90, sorry19:54
nihilstarhi guys, any problems updating from 8.10 to 9.04? :-)19:54
danbhfivezanberdo: yeah, its a debian package19:54
Ben90ok19:54
bauerbobjippie, yes, you can provide a xorg.conf and xorg will use it19:54
theuser1markeo i have added port 22 for ssh in the allow list of firestarter. what else should i do ?19:54
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lemmyand starting init 2 apparently doesn't work with upstart anymore.19:54
wootWhat the hell ? I Just Installed  9.04. There are not any ackage to download !! I cant apt-get install xchat .. And deluge and many many others :x19:54
CydeWeysWoohoo!  It booted!19:54
stefgnihilstar: yup... finding a mirror that's not overloaded :-)19:54
markeotheuser1: Is your linux box your NAT router for the rest of your network as well?19:54
* rapha goes to find out if usplash-smooth works for Jaunty19:55
neggealinon: I can't speak for myself yet but here's a list of potential problems, might be worth checking it out: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/90419:55
bauerbobgravity: dunno. i'm still on 8.10 and i have a xorg.conf, but it dates from 8.04 or 7.1019:55
nihilstarstefg, hehehe :-D19:55
jippiebauerbob: but i guess if i provide an xorg.conf, it needs to be complete? can I generate a working version?19:55
wootHelp :)19:55
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theuser1markeo:  i dont have a network. just a router (dsl modem) and my pc19:55
markeotheuser: that should do it, honestly. If you can have firestarter open and look at its blocked attempts tab when you try to connect, firestarter will show it to you and you can quickly add it in to your rules as well19:55
sidewalkdo i need to load the nvidia driver myself? it seems that the nv driver is loaded?19:55
Ben90bauerbob?19:56
bauerbobBen90, i don't think you should use the low latency kernel if your system is choppy with the default kernel. must be a reason to be choppy and you should repair the issue19:56
petiaasdf19:56
neggewoot: what exactly happens? Does it say it can't find the packages or does the download itself fail?19:56
markeotheuser1: Looks like you have your networking configured to do NAT translation and forwarding like a NAT router, you might want to undo that if you know how you enabled it :D19:56
petialogout19:56
Ben90bauerbob, how would i go about repairing that said issue?19:56
petiaexit19:56
stefgsidewalk: do you have a really old nvidia card (like Ceforce 4 or TNT?)19:56
neggesidewalk: if you mean the proprietary Nvidia driver, you do it from System --> Administration -> Hardware drivers19:56
Xore|workhello, i can find the MD5SUMS for the dvd images, but cannot find the MD5 sums for the cds. can anyone point me in the right direction?19:56
Shortguy109acr0nym: noone will talk to me so i'll try it out later xD19:57
BobCFCpetia, try /quit19:57
markeotheuser1: I'm sorry if i'm not helping with the specifics, but I'm still in the process of upgrading and don't know the 9.04 environs at all yet19:57
theuser1markeo:  i should disable nat from my router?19:57
orudieirssi not as user friendly as xchat yeah ?19:57
bauerbobjippie, yes ...there's some app that creates one ...uhm... don't remember the name. xorgconf or something like that19:57
acr0nymShortguy109, you can talk with the test echo skype :)19:57
Shortguy109ohhh19:57
Shortguy109kwl i shall try that19:57
devdavadIt seems Apache2 has somehow taken over my lighty install. Has anyone else had this problem?19:57
raphano usplash-smooth in Jaunty :-(((19:57
alinon41 MiNuTeS ReMaiNiNG To uPGRaDe!!19:57
JeruvyXore|work: they should be in same file on a mirror?19:57
bauerbobBen90, i'd start looking into the output of dmesg19:57
SRabbelierIs it inappropriate to ask questions here wrt installing VMWare tools in Ubuntu 9.04?19:57
Ben90ok 1 sec.19:57
Shortguy109acr0nym: actually, how do i do that? xD19:57
devdavadlike when I start my comp apache2 takes over port 8019:57
markeotheuser1: OH19:57
neggealinon: "About 7 hours remaining" here19:57
tomatopastehi all19:57
grawityorudie: irssi vs Xchat is like vi/emacs vs gedit :)19:57
ectospasm'sup y'all19:58
tomatopastehow are the download speeds on the upgrade so far?19:58
alinonholy cow negge hehe19:58
theuser1markeo:  OH ?19:58
grawityorudie: Some people want more than just user-friendliness.19:58
MarkGHi, I have Ubuntu Jaunty RC, can I just run Update Manager to get the latest packages, or do I need to do something more?19:58
alinonnegge: don't feel too bad :P i had my download stop on me all together at one point!19:58
neggetomatopaste: my speed atm is 32 kb/s. My max normally is around 800kb/s so it's pretty slow:/19:58
markeotheuser1: what's going on: your router is NAT'ing, and you're trying to connect to your public IP, which your DSL router is most likely NOT configured to forward to for connections on port 2219:58
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ectospasmgrawity: yeah, but XChat/gedit can't bake you cookies19:58
acr0nymShortguy109 :) startup skype, login with your info, double click on skype test call19:58
bauerbobtomatopaste, i could download the alternate iso @ full speed from a local ftp mirror19:58
neggealinon: hehe that's bad19:58
BobCFCorudie, irssi is is the terminal no buttons. It's cool but hard to notice when you get a PM because it doesn't flash19:58
TheFunkbombcoz_, okay, I'm all up to date.  The only issue now is that when I open Update Manager, I have Brasero in there but it's grayed out19:58
thingy\o/ Yay!19:58
tomatopastethanks negge and bauerbob19:59
markeotheuser1: you have to configure your DSL router, if it's providing a natted address for your machine, to port forward port 22 to your machine19:59
ectospasmBobCFC: you can always have it play sound events19:59
Ben90bauerbob, im gonna pastebin the output alright?19:59
theuser1markeo:  dont know man. h19:59
irritatedskinHow can I run a command that is already running in a terminal window without restarting the process?19:59
coz_TheFunkbomb,  that one I am not sure of19:59
clydehow can i upgrade from ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 ?19:59
yaaarhowdy19:59
bauerbobBen90, yes19:59
JDSheweyMarkG: apt-get dist-upgrade will put you on full release19:59
grawityBobCFC: But it can be configured to flash. (And it should by default.)19:59
Shortguy109acr0nym: it says problem with audio playback :(19:59
LordKowTheFunkbomb: does it ask you if you want to do a partial upgrade?19:59
oliver_g_hi19:59
alinonif you need to upgrade to 9.04 - hit alt-F2, type update-manager -c in the run box, hit run, wait for a button to appear that asks you to upgrade, follow the directions19:59
ectospasmI'm still trying to figure out how to get it to play sound events through the SSH tunnels I use.19:59
clydehow can i upgrade from ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 ?19:59
bauerbobclyde, "sudo update-manager"19:59
theuser1markeo:  ok19:59
acr0nymah ok19:59
clydeok thanks19:59
theuser1brb19:59
TheFunkbombLordKow, I already got past that19:59
stefgMarkG: as far as i've read the the relaease handles ext4 mounting differently... so if you didn't alter the default ext3 filesystem a simply update should be fine for you19:59
CydeWeysOh great, there's a Clyde here.  that won't get confusing.19:59
BobCFCectospasm, yes if I go away i want it to still flash when i'm back19:59
LordKowTheFunkbomb: which mirror are you using?19:59
acr0nymShortguy109, go into the skype options, it's at the bottomleft19:59
orudie1800 users wow19:59
ljuwaidahyey!19:59
TheFunkbombLordKow, beats me19:59
florin_hello , i have this video card on fujitsu siemens amilo 2727 , for ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10 all was ok , never request driver or something , but now in jaunty i cannot enable desktop effects20:00
ljuwaidahit turns out i downloaded 9.04 but burnt 8.10!20:00
florin_http://paste.ubuntu.com/156700/plain/20:00
ectospasmBobCFC: XChat is not navigable by the keyboard alone.20:00
orudiei'm thinking about installing ubuntu desktop20:00
Shortguy109acr0nym: went into options20:00
oliver_g_minor download problem: the alternate-iso torrent link (http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent) is redirected to the iso itself (to http://d2j60aaoklmkol.cloudfront.net/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso) - is that intended?20:00
BobCFCectospasm, grawity  no doubt it is cool with screen though20:00
acr0nymgo into sound devices20:00
HBXhey is it me or is the upgrade to jaunty slow over the net20:00
markeotheuser1: When you type '/sbin/ifconfig -a' if you get the IP address you had up above, or is it something like '192.168.x.x' or '172.16.x.x' or '10.x.x.x'?20:00
eseven73ljuwaidah, lol ive done that a few times20:00
Shortguy109acr0nym: now what ? :o20:00
Ben90bauerbob, go to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d259164e220:00
acr0nymwhat are your options set to?20:00
harisundNowadays isn't it better to use aptitude than apt-get? as in apt-get update being replaced with aptitude update, and similarly aptitude upgrade and aptitude full-upgrade or something/20:00
wiB3hi guys20:00
wiB3i screwed my ubuntu20:00
florin_someone help to activate it?20:00
thorn_PLhi20:00
acr0nymjust default?20:00
MarfiHBX: Ubuntu just came out. Did you really have to ask that?20:00
clydeyes yes..i see the upgrade button ..thanks a lot :))20:00
yaaarhi everybody. i just did a fresh install of 9.04 using the alternate disc so as to setup software raid 0. i'm pretty darn sure i did the partitioning right, but when i reboot after installation it just drops me at busybox, saying there was no /dev/md0 ...but when i go to /dev and list the dir, the md0 device is right there. anybody know what's wrong here?20:00
orudiecan i run windows and ubuntu desktop at the same time with support of full hardware such as video and audio ?20:00
LordKowTheFunkbomb: go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources and change the "Download from" to something else.20:00
HBXjaja20:00
HBXyea i did20:01
wiB3i ran update-manager to do the dist upgrade and my link is very skippy so the update fail20:01
alinonLoL wiB320:01
markeowelp I think he figured out how to disable NAT on his router20:01
acr0nymShortguy109, try changing around the options in there and click on the button make a test call to see if it works now20:01
wiB3i decided to use update-manager-text so i apt that, realizing it get python2.6 too20:01
myselfhey so i have ubuntu 9.04 BETA what is the best way to upgrade to the STABLE 9.04 version?20:01
Shortguy109acr0nym: okay, thanks20:01
wiB3and now i can't run any of update-manager-* even i edited the shebangs20:01
LordKowmyself: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'20:01
Shortguy109acr0nym: on the sound devices?20:01
ljuwaidaheseven73: it's good to know i'm not alone20:01
JDSheweymyself: apt-get dist-upgrade20:01
myselfJDS what about what LordKow said?20:01
acr0nymShortguy109, yep20:01
LordKowmyself: both work20:02
HBXwhats faster the cli to upgrade or the gui20:02
stefgyaaar: set up a non raid /boot partition ... prolly the raid takes to long to be assembled, so the initrd doesn't find the root-fs20:02
myselfokay, and that will actually install it completely into the stable version?20:02
alinon2 clones from noren :P20:02
Idespnnrmyself: the best way would be to wait a day or so... servers are really slow right now...20:02
LordKowmyself: yes20:02
Shortguy109IT WORKED20:02
Shortguy109:D20:02
pvvniYo anyone know what the deal is with the new screen in 9.0420:02
myselfhmm i see20:02
pvvniThe new tabs are nice20:02
bauerbobBen90, is your whole system choppy or is maybe only X choppy? (graphics, maybe 2d/3d)20:02
stefgyaaar: and you should really rethink if raid-0 is worth it20:02
BobCFCHBX same, it runs CLI in background you can even click show terminal20:02
pvvnibut I have no idea what each of the numbers are for, and they arent listed in the man file20:02
hardcampaservers arn't slow20:02
yaaarstefg; actually, that's the way i have it setup already. / is a raid, /boot is only on one disc20:02
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wiB3does running dist-upgrade upgrades to jaunty?20:02
Krypto_are the Torrent download links on ubuntu.com a known issue?... they lead to direct .iso downloads instead of a .torrent file when you click on them, even though hovering over them the status bar says .torrent20:02
HBXfuck its majorly slow20:02
Shortguy109acr0nym: the call worked, but my voice didn't20:03
acr0nymShortguy109 cool :)20:03
acr0nymah ok20:03
myselfbut to do it, i would type sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade  or apt-get dist-upgrade?20:03
hardcampajust change server if it's slow20:03
LordKowi highly recommend torrents20:03
acr0nymstill one problem to solve then20:03
HBXthere servers must be getting pounded20:03
acr0nymcan you quit skype20:03
Ben90bauerbob, when i try to run some certain apps the seem to lag a bit.20:03
MarfiKrypto_: I had that problem. Stop using tor, or refresh the page20:03
BobCFCKrypto_, try torrent.ubuntu.com:696920:03
myselfthose two or that one command would do it fully?20:03
acr0nymgo to sound & video and start sound recorder20:03
final_frontierhi everyone20:03
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stefgyaaar: hmm.... then inspect /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf.... might contain wron uuid'S or other bs20:03
final_frontiergot a problem with kde420:03
Shortguy109acr0nym: sound recorder? how do i do that? :O20:04
HBXjust cancelled the upgrade shit is taking too long20:04
Marfifinal_frontier: #kubuntu is that way   --->20:04
iskinHow do I switch a foreground process into a background process? Typing 'bg' isn't working for me.20:04
raphafinal_frontier: probably better luck trying in #kubuntu20:04
HBXand im on cable20:04
chelzKyleK: yeah i noticed that about an hour ago20:04
nivardusmy 9.04 install disc freezes up after language selection (I've tried reburning, everything seems fine) It stops responding after I make a selection to Install/check disk/book from 1st harddrive/etc.20:04
chelzKyleK: i'm not sure who to report it to, i said it here also though20:04
Baconheartwhy is my xorg running at 99% of the CPU after ugprade to juanty?20:04
acr0nymShortguy109, click on applications -> sound & video -> sound recorder20:04
myselfhey20:04
ljuwaidahlater20:04
oliver_g_HBX: the package servers are probably very overloaded right now20:04
myselfI DID supo apt-get dist upgrade20:04
final_frontieri have a giant plasmoid in the desktop and i dont know how can i colse it20:04
myselfand it didn't install anything20:04
myselfcause i just did a 10 megabyte update20:04
acr0nymfinal_frontier, *cough* join #kubuntu *cough* :P20:04
myselfit asked me to do20:04
HBXyea thats what i was thinking20:04
oliver_g_HBX: maybe try again next week20:04
armegadonis the new notifications in jaunty supposed to not appear when a media player is being used?20:04
JDSheweymyself: then you are are on full release.20:04
bauerbobBen90, what apps?20:05
HBXnext week jaja20:05
myselfit was just 10 megabytes of stuff that I needed?20:05
Marfifinal_frontier: #kubuntu is that way, don't clutter #ubuntu on release day    ------>20:05
HBXmaybe at midnight20:05
myselfi mean  i have been updating regularly the past week20:05
myselfbut thats all?20:05
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JDSheweymyself: yep. Sounds like.20:05
HBXwhen ppl arent pounding the servers20:05
stefgyup20:05
alinoncheetah's don't have retractible claws...huh20:05
kitchefinal_frontier: might want to ask the #kubuntu for your question20:05
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thorn_PLanybody know adress of polish ubuntu room ?20:05
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stefg!pl20:05
ubottuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl20:05
vart_MYSELF: YES20:05
the_dark_warrioMy ubuntu installation is "Scanning the mirror..." for a long time... It is still on 82%. Any hints on this?20:05
myselfokay :)20:05
Shortguy109acr0nym: i don't have a sound recorder :o20:05
Ben90bauerbob, the apps i run are zsnes , gxine , etc...20:05
vart_sorry - missed caps20:05
Guest16366i speak  a bit of Polish and english20:05
Marfithe_dark_warrio: wait20:06
acr0nymthorn_PL, join #ubuntu-pl20:06
alinonthorn_PL: how'd that skype download go?20:06
BobCFCHBX, you could try getting the alternateCD from the torrents which are fast, I think you can upgrade from the alternate20:06
kitchethe_dark_warrio: wait a few days20:06
stefgthe_dark_warrio: server overload ...20:06
nctHello. Does anyone knows if someone has packaged the recently-released gcc 4.4 for Ubuntu already?20:06
thorn_PLok thx very much :D20:06
acr0nymShortguy109 that's weird :)20:06
HBXcoo20:06
oliver_g_HBX: in the ubuntu kingdom, the sun never sets :-) there's always somebody around the world pounding the servers20:06
hardcampajust switch server20:06
htpcwhat word editing software comes with Ubuntu?20:06
HBXbut im on a netbook20:06
the_dark_warriooh, ok, thanks ;)20:06
MarfiBobCFC: HBX Best thing is to wait it out. It will go20:06
Shortguy109acr0nym: yeah, i was pretty sure i had one O_O20:06
bauerbobBen90, i could find only a few warnings in your dmesg output and i'm not sure if even one of the is the cause of the issue. so the apps you're talking of have not much i/o (hard disk) and are 2d only20:06
Guest16366will i lose my book marks and like stuff?20:06
Ben90bauerbob, when i run zsnes on the normal kernel it runs choppy20:06
_RadioHeadcan i update ubuntu to latst release via ISO file?20:06
MarfiHBX: If you want to grab the alt, install it to a jump drive20:06
stefghtpc: vim :-)20:06
acr0nymShortguy109, go to System -> preferences -> sound20:06
Marfi_RadioHead: Alternate cd20:06
JDSheweyHaving trouble with nvidia performance w/ compiz. It is a nvidia quadro NVS 280. Any suggestions? I am using the 177 driver BC support for my card was dropped in 180.20:07
vart_htpc: open office20:07
BobCFCHBX, yes you can put it on a USB stick, I haven't burnt a CD in a long while lol20:07
alinongah! 947 of 1127 files - so close!20:07
manpoolethe time it is taking to download updates is extremely long is that because everyone is getting updates?20:07
HBXcoo20:07
MarfiJDShewey: glxgears?20:07
HBXhey will i loose my current settings20:07
Mr_KaizerI've got a graphics issue (I think). A few minutes ago, my screen started flickering, flixkering little colored stripes fluttering across my screen. The desktop locked, I couldn't do anything. The screen dissapeared in all the flickering stripes, and it stayed that way for a couple of minutes, before my desktop slowly reapeared. Any thoughts as to what may have cause this? Ubuntu is running just fine now, and was before the incident. I'm o20:07
_RadioHeadMarfi, i have ubuntu-9.04-rc-desktop-i386.iso , i know i can mount and add media but though i can use as ISO20:07
kitchemanpoole: because of the new release20:07
harisundAnyone know how to stop a service from running on boot time?20:07
bauerbobBen90, there's a warning in your dmesg output for your hard disk driver ("needs updating"), so maybe dma is could not be set20:07
stefg!latex | htpc20:07
HBXi run super ubuntu20:07
ubottuhtpc: tex is a language for describing a document, commonly used especially for scientific publishing. Information and instructions for installing TeX and other related packages can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaTeX20:07
acr0nymShortguy109, then go to sound capture and change the settings there till it works, you can check by using the test button20:07
JDSheweythose who are having trouble with updates: do pages take a long time to load?20:07
BobCFCHBX unetbootin will build a usb from an ISO if you want20:07
yaaarstefg; how do i edit that file from busybox? i don't have vi or nano apparently20:07
vixeyupdtaes updates could work like torrenst!20:07
Marfi_RadioHead: can't upgrade from the live disk20:07
Ben90bauerbob, how do i fix that?20:07
JDSheweyif so you may be having issues with ipv620:07
bauerbobBen90, that can result in a lag every time the hdd is being accessed20:07
Marfi_RadioHead: Clean install, yes20:07
manpoolethe ubuntu sever is swamped20:07
bauerbobBen90, are you on 8.10 or 9.04?20:07
manpoolesynaptic is having a time20:08
vart_harisund: aadd to blacklist20:08
Ben90bauerbob, i'm on 9.04 beta i think.20:08
acr0nymI feel so smart by downloading 9.04 a week before the release date :P20:08
harisundvart_: no not module.. service .. as in something that is found in /etc/init.d/20:08
_RadioHeadMarfi, uh so now huge download20:08
Shortguy109acr0nym: there's no preferences in settings :o20:08
bauerbobwhat's the output of "uname -a"?20:08
manpooleisnt it possible to add mirrors to ubuntu synaptic?20:08
Marfi------It's update day, please stop asking why things are going slow --------20:08
JDSheweymanpoole: do web pages take a long time to load?20:08
manpoolenope20:08
Shortguy109acr0nym: system*20:08
Lr5Anyone knows where to find the torrent download link of the alternative install cd of Ubuntu 9.04? The downloads one leads to a regular download :s20:08
harisundvart_ it used to be update-rc.d on debian based machines earlier .. but I am not familiar with the equivalent on upstart20:08
stefgyaaar: you need a rescue system .... either use sysrescd or fire up the desktop cd and apt-get install mdadm , then sudo mdadm -A --scan20:08
manpoolejust packages i am trying to install20:08
BobCFCmanpoole, goto System->Admiin0>Software Sources20:08
Marfi_RadioHead: You can update through the update manager, clean install with the desktop disk, or update with the alternate CD20:09
acr0nymShortguy109, that's strange... System -> preferences -> sound20:09
acr0nymare you sure that's not there?20:09
Marfi_RadioHead: Those are your only options. =)20:09
bauerbobBen90, there was a kernel update for 9.04 after beta. but you should update a beta to the final anyway (now that the final is finally out)20:09
uni4dfxLr5: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/jaunty/20:09
alinoni hope my upgrade goes well ...i didn't manually change any resources20:09
Ben90bauerbob?20:09
Lr5uni4dfx: thanks20:09
harisundAnyone? I want the equivalent of update-rc.d for upstart .. there's a process in /etc/init.d that I don't want running on boot time20:09
Ben90bauerbob, how do i update it?20:09
Lr5actually it seems to be fixed by now20:10
Shortguy109acr0nym: yeah, im sure, maybe it's the new kde, my brother said "You are running Kubuntu 9.04. The microphone was working in version 8.04."20:10
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lepassivei want to change volume.mount_point for a device using HAL but i can find the conf file20:10
_RadioHeadMarfi, :) better ill go via update manager :0 since i am lazy now to backup my stuff and do a clean install.and i like upgrades , testing how goes all things ....:)20:10
zanberdois there a CLI alternative to software-properties-gtk?20:10
vart_harisund: try sysvconfig20:10
Marfiharisund: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/<process>20:10
acr0nymah Shortguy109 I keep forgetting you are on KDE20:10
Marfi_RadioHead: sounds good. =)20:10
acr0nymI'm not familiar with KDE at all, so can't really help a lot20:10
stefgyaaar: and once again... raid-0 is bs on desktops in 99% of all use cases... seek time is still the same, you'll not gain anything from STR if you don't do video editing20:10
zanberdowith all the traffic on the main package servers today, I'd like to find the one with the least latency for my location20:10
bauerbobBen90, since you're already on a 9.04 you don't need to run the update-manager. but run "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"20:10
zanberdobut I don't use the gui20:10
eichihello20:10
acr0nymyou can join #kubuntu which is specifically for KDE20:10
zanberdofor this server.20:10
Shortguy109oh!20:10
Ben90ok 1 sec.20:10
eichiis the torrent on the page dead?20:10
Shortguy109thanksssss :)20:10
Shortguy109is there a certain server?20:11
Marfizanberdo: that's why I came here to help with the questions20:11
acr0nymnope just type /join #kubuntu20:11
acr0nym:)20:11
eichitorrent download: starts iso download20:11
Shortguy109acr0nym: okay, thanks very much :)20:11
acr0nymno problemo, come back when you need help with gnome :P20:11
majlapmay need to do a fresh install :(20:11
armegadonis the new notifications in jaunty supposed to not appear when a media player is being used?20:11
Schuylerso I got the Jaunty ISO from BitTorrent, which is great. I booted my system from it, and it doesn't seem to be designed to do upgrades.20:11
BobCFCzanberdo, you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list but I don't know how to test apart from trial and error20:12
uni4dfxarmegadon: yes20:12
SchuylerI mounted it -o loop to /media/cdrom020:12
armegadonuni4dfx, is there any way to get them to display even though a media player is open?20:12
Ben90bauerbob?20:12
bauerbobSchuyler, only the alternate edition is designed for upgrades20:12
MarfiSchuyler: Alternate CD is the only one that can do upgrades20:12
zcvvcis it possible to mount *.iso file which is on sshfs? I'm getting permission denied20:12
majlapsays error authenticating some packages :(20:12
bauerbobBen90, yes?20:12
Marfizcvvc: sudo is your friend20:12
zanberdoBobCFC, right, I'm aware that I can modify it by hand.  I like the feature that software-properties-gtk offers and other distros support as well when looking for the best possible mirror site.20:12
Ben90bauerbob, it says that theres nothing to install.20:12
orudiecan i run windows and ubuntu desktop at the same time with support of full hardware such as video and audio ?20:12
Schuylerok, so adding "deb file:/media/cdrom0 jaunty main restricted" to my /etc/apt/source.list isn't going to do it? :)20:12
bauerbobBen90, and what's the output of "uname -a"?20:13
BobCFCzanberdo, PING! :)20:13
Marfiorudie: google "virtual machines"20:13
Ben90ok 1 sec.20:13
Lr5so, can you upgrade to 9.04 using the alternative install cd without burning it, if you mount the cd image?20:13
Schuylerbecause I tried that and an 'apt-get update' and it doesn't seem to find the files there20:13
zanberdoBobCFC, not really what I'm looking for BobCFC but thanks anyway20:13
acr0nymorudie, not sure, you can try virtual box or portable ubuntu20:13
uni4dfxarmegadon: which media player20:13
Lr5or is there some reason for which only burning works?20:13
SchuylerLr5: sounds like we have the same proble, :)20:13
pawel__I'm downloading upgrading with down speed 1400 b/s20:13
MarfiSchuyler: Update from the alternate CD, not the live disk20:13
armegadonuni4dfx, totem and mplayer20:13
Ben90bauerbob, it says "Linux ben-desktop 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux20:13
Ben90"20:13
SchuylerMarfi: bingo, got it, thanks :)20:13
BobCFCzanberdo, there must be a bash script somewhere20:13
Marfipawel__: It's release day...servers are packed...don't complain20:13
uni4dfxarmegadon: it only works with rhythmbox for now as far as i know20:13
_RadioHeadMarfi, RC and RELEASE are same ? or differ?20:14
_RadioHeadMarfi,  9.0420:14
Marfi_RadioHead: RC = release candidate, release = release20:14
Schuylerdoes anyone have the link for the alternate ISO torrent? I already blew away firefox on my system (don't ask)20:14
Shininggghas anyone taken over the rythmbox project?20:14
Marfi_RadioHead: RC is the one before the release20:14
armegadonuni4dfx, i don't want it to show notifications from totem or mplayer, but currently if totem is open, i don't get pidgin notifications20:14
MarfiSchuyler: IE? wget?20:14
_RadioHeadMarfi, :) i know  but i just downloadewd RC few days ago when i saw popup 9.04released :)20:14
SchuylerMarfi: I need to know the URL before I can wget it :)20:14
racecar56here is an offtopic channel, just for anyone why wants it #ubuntu-cafe20:14
Marfi_RadioHead: I saw it in class when I did an update. I was happy20:14
zcvvcMarfi, I'm using sudo20:14
uni4dfxarmegadon: then it's probably a bug20:15
bauerbobBen90, oh, damn. that's already the latest kernel. uhm.... well, there's nothing i can tell you for your specific case. you might want to try the usual suspects, that is "noapic" (kernel parameter)20:15
zanberdoBobCFC, my thought was that whatever software-properties-gtk is doing with the gui should/could be done from cli.  it should be a simple matter to id known servers, test latency, and update sources.list, but do this from cli (since this is one of the features of software-properties-gtk)20:15
_RadioHeadMarfi, i just saw it , already started download :)20:15
Marfizcvvc: If your mounting an iso, use sudo mount <iso file> /media/cdrom0 -o loop20:15
Ben90ok.20:15
armegadonuni4dfx, is there someone i could talk to that specializes in the notify-osd development20:15
racecar56*who20:15
whatteySchuyler: i386 or amd64?20:15
bauerbobBen90, and "pci=routeirq" also helps very often, but as I said, that's more a general workaround for hardware issues20:15
_RadioHeadbut i need to upgrade my net conection20:15
nivarduswhat's going on if, after trying to make a selection on the install disc (after boot) the installer freezes at the menu, with neither CD or harddrive doing working? I've reburned the disc. Any ideas?20:15
zcvvcMarfi: I'm doing exactly the same20:15
MarfiSchuyler: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent20:16
Ben90bauerbob, what do you mean?20:16
SchuylerMarfi: thanks!20:16
Schuylerwhattey: thanks also20:16
pawel__will it be upgrading faster tomorrow?20:16
Marfizcvvc: what are you trying to mount?20:16
Schuylerappreciate your assistance, guys20:16
whatteypawel__ most likely yes20:16
Marfi_RadioHead: Have my 3 torrents running / seeding now20:16
danbhfivenivardus: are you doing a new install?20:16
bauerbobBen90, if "noapic" doesn't help, you can also give "pci=routeirq" a try. it's also a kernel parameter20:16
Ben90ok.20:16
zanberdoif everyone used software-properties-gtk to find the mirror with the least latency, the main servers wouldn't be so heavily burdened.... just my two cents20:16
_RadioHeadMarfi, no i am using update manager . tomorrow ill download iso from work.20:17
zcvvcMarfi: ubuntu image iso on another machine, via sshfs20:17
zanberdoI just wish i could find the cli equivelent20:17
Schuylerand huge thanks to all the Ubuntu volunteers here, you guys are doing great work20:17
nivardusdanbhfive: attempting a fresh install over 8.04, yes20:17
zcvvcMust I copy it?20:17
BobCFCzanberdo, here is a script that will test a bunch of wget response times from a list of servers might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4643738&postcount=320:17
_RadioHeadMarfi, i asked about RC and release coz on distrowatch i saw this:  New features: Ubuntu 9.04 RC includes the latest GNOME 2.26 desktop ....20:17
Hosein-mecanyone can tell me , the files in main server ( http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/9.04/ ) is final or not ? because the date is for 20 april but in other mirror like this ( ftp://ftpserv.tudelft.nl/pub/Linux/releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/jaunty/ ) the date is 23 april ! Thanks20:17
BaconheartI don't have a hardware driver for my ATI card after Juanty upgrade, is that normal?20:17
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eternal_p /join #ubuntu-release-party20:17
zanberdoBobCFC, thanks, checking it out now20:17
Marfizcvvc: Don't know of you can. Check that you have write permissions on the other machine20:17
danbhfivenivardus: did you check the cd?20:17
* scunizi gives Schuyler a pat on the back since he's also a volunteer20:17
dthomasdigitalJust installed 9.04 on a dell T3400 and it went very smooth so if you got one of those you should be in good shape.20:17
_RadioHeadanyway thx for clearing my mind and helping me Marfi20:18
_RadioHead:)20:18
acr0nymor you can use an asus 1000he :P20:18
SeveinHi!20:18
uni4dfxarmegadon: idk, try the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD20:18
acr0nymruns lightning fast on this netbook20:18
Marfizcvvc: I have never done a mount over a network with a .iso. Just don't tell people here if you can. =P20:18
weather15Anyone downloading 9.04 on OSU open source lab mirror?20:18
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zcvvcMarfi: found it; I have to sudo sshfs20:18
SeveinWhat I have to do update from 9.04rc to 9.04? just upgrade?20:18
Marfiweather15: I usually grab mine from MIT whenever I down. have the last few realeases20:18
zcvvcthanks anyway20:18
nivardusdanbhfive: same issue when I try to make that selection, I've reburned the image and the download checks out as fine20:18
Marfizcvvc: Alright, glad it worked!20:18
orudieif i install ubuntu dekstop, will i have to install nvidia drivers for video card or will it do it automatically ?20:19
danbhfive!final > Sevein20:19
ubottuSevein, please see my private message20:19
SlartHello.. if I try to download the torrent for the 9.04 64 bit release I get the iso file directly.. did someone not get their coffee today?20:19
Hosein-mecanyone can tell me , the files in main server ( http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/9.04/ ) is final or not ? because the date is for 20 april but in other mirror like this ( ftp://ftpserv.tudelft.nl/pub/Linux/releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/jaunty/ ) the date is 23 april ! Thanks20:19
Marfiorudie: You'll have to install them, but its automated20:19
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danbhfivenivardus: well, your burner could be malfunctioning20:19
acr0nymfunny how the #ubuntu+1 channel disappeared all of a sudden :)20:19
racecar56acr0nym, cause 9.04 is out20:19
acr0nymlol duh20:19
acr0nymfigured that out ;P20:19
lwizardlhi20:19
Seveindanbhfive: thanks! :)20:19
bauerbobyippieh, 9.04 packages are now being installed - 1h18m left (wtf?!), see you all later ...well, at least i hope so :-)20:20
lwizardldoes anyone know of a good resource for Made with/on linux logos that are royalty free for use?20:20
physically_fitI LOVE UBUNTU mkay....20:20
Ben90cya.20:20
acr0nymwhy hello there mr garrison20:20
BaconheartMarfi: how do I install ATI video drivers in Juanty?20:20
Marfilwizardl: google "ubuntu logos"20:20
BobCFClwizardl, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official20:20
alinonæænoesææ20:20
MarfiBaconheart: google it, not familiar with ATI drivers20:20
nivardusdanbhfive: I'm going to try burning on another computer, thanks for your time20:20
danbhfivenivardus: np20:21
SlartBaconheart: there is no restricted drivers manager?20:21
kulightBaconheart: restricted drivers manager20:21
Slart!ati | Baconheart, they have probably not update this but anyways..20:21
ubottuBaconheart, they have probably not update this but anyways..: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto20:21
lwizardlBobCFC, yeah but those are Ubuntu based only20:21
BaconheartSlart: when i run that it shows no hardware drivers installed20:21
MarfiTY Slart20:21
MushroomIf anyone is looking for Ubuntu 9.04 I will have it on my server in a few minutes20:21
deanyBaconheart, probably means your card is no longer supported20:21
MarfiSlart: Haven't helped in @ubuntu for a while. =)20:21
SlartBaconheart: hmm.. odd20:21
MarfiMushroom: Or to help...seed20:22
deanyhave to stick with the ati opensource driver instead.. like me :(20:22
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lwizardlBobCFC, I'm looking for more of TUX based logos and stuff like "Made 100% on Gedit20:22
SlartMarfi: well.. the bot probably needs a lot of updating anyways =)20:22
armegadonuni4dfx, i read that wiki but it doesn't talk about my problem20:22
MarfiSlart: Probably, but still enough for someone.   =)20:22
acr0nymMushroom, how does one get a server with that much extra bandwidth? :)20:22
Slart!torrent20:22
ubottuTorrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P20:22
MushroomI have a few new Distros that I will upload tonight that we have downloaded at office the last few days20:22
girdyhas jaunty been officially released yet?20:22
whatteyyes20:22
girdythx20:22
Marfigirdy: Go to the website20:23
lucaxwhats up with fast user switch on jaunty??20:23
Slartcan someone try this link http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent  see if they get the torrent or the actual iso-file?20:23
Marfigirdy = internets - 100020:23
kulight!torrents20:23
ubottuJaunty can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your archieecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).20:23
weather15Yes20:23
acr0nymI get the torrent20:23
xcdfgkjhgcvI've partitioned my HDD into one ext3 / and one ext3 /home. Is it okay if I boot a Live CD and make the /home smaller and make the / bigger?20:23
weather15Yes I get the ISO File20:23
whatteysame20:23
karimlu20:23
MarfiSlart: torrent here20:23
BobCFCSlartybartfast I get a torrent20:23
karimcommhi20:23
Marfixcdfgkjhgcv: yes20:24
Slartthanks guys/girls.. wonder why I get the iso file...20:24
girdywhy does rhythmbox keep asking me to install a suitable plugin?20:24
girdyis there a way to make that window go away?20:24
girdycuz it asks multiple times20:24
SchuylerSlart: the same thing happened to me20:24
graingertgirdy, install the plugin then20:24
girdyand i keep hitting "cancel"20:24
Marfigirdy: If you don't want mp3 support, then yes, x out of it.20:24
BobCFCgirdy, MP3s need a plugin first time they are played20:24
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SchuylerSlart: I wget'ed the torrent link and got the iso instead20:24
iandanI have upgraded to Ubuntu 9.04 and I have a problem of key mapping: Fn+F8, which should increase screen's brightenes now does nothing. Any idea?20:24
graingertgirdy, install ubuntu-restricted-extras20:24
Schuylerhowever the ISO is pulling down at 10 Mb, so I decided to just leave it :)20:24
girdyMarfi: i have mp3 support, it's asking me to install a WMA DRM plugin20:25
orudiewhats the difference between ubuntu desktop and kubuntu20:25
SlartSchuyler: strange.. perhaps some kind of website caching thingy..20:25
graingertSchuyler, what link was it20:25
girdygraingert: restricted extras is already installed20:25
Marfigirdy: then install it. never know when you will need it20:25
sebsebsebiandan: upgraded from which version?20:25
pawel__bye20:25
graingertorudie, one uses gnome the other kde420:25
scuniziSchuyler: you should try downloading with bittorrent or something similar.. much faster20:25
lucaxwhy didnt developers just wait until they had it all ok before releasing something so unstable!?20:25
girdyMarfi: how? when i select "search for a suitable plugin" nothing comes up20:25
graingert!kubuntu | orudie20:25
ubottuorudie: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE20:25
BobCFCorudie, K has KDE instead of gnome20:25
MaT-dgmy mouse cursor dissappears when firefox is loading a page (jaunty)20:25
iandansebsebseb: from 8.10 to 9.0420:25
alinonlucax: new release unstable for you i take it?20:25
graingertMaT-dg, I used to get that20:26
Slartlucax: it's not working for you?20:26
lucaxat all20:26
graingertMaT-dg, I can't remember what caused/fixed it20:26
MarfiI must depart...have fun, yall20:26
alinonPFFTT20:26
alinonat all?!20:26
orudieso which one is prettier k or gnome ?20:26
lucaxSlart, i cant swtich between users, and cant run compiz20:26
graingertorudie, depends on them20:26
Slartlucax: nvidia graphics? ati?20:26
Schuylerscunizi: that's what I'm saying, I went to download http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent and it redirected me to http://d2j60aaoklmkol.cloudfront.net/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso20:26
girdyMarfi: how do i install a Protected WMA plugin? do you know?20:26
BobCFCorudie, careful you will start a fight like that20:26
DreamgliderHey and Happy Ubuntu's day :)20:26
Schuylerwhich is the iso image20:26
lucaxSlart, intel20:26
graingertorudie, kde4 focussed on eye candy and being a bastard to run20:26
alinoncould be a graphics driver issue lucax20:26
girdyMarfi: no plugins show up under "search"20:26
g4lv4tr0ndronix its jaunty20:26
wallacejbjectospasm what was that command line in terminal again for finding out which dev my burner is set to?  just want to keep the command handy incase i need it again, it was something like "ls /dev/dvd20:27
Schuylerbut as it happens 10 megabits is waaay faster than the torrent was earlier20:27
Slartlucax: there was a warning about intel cards and jaunty.. can't remember the details though20:27
ectospasmwallacejbj: you can try "ls -al /dev/dvd*"20:27
dronixyeah I got it g41v4tr0n thxs20:27
BobCFCwallacejbj, type mount20:27
ectospasmwallacejbj:  the -l option is key20:27
lucaxgreat... great...20:27
orudieso which is recommended by official ubuntu, gnome or k ?20:27
ectospasmthe -a may be superfluous.20:27
slash0031Yo people, I cannot get wallpaper tray to work on 9.04. How can I fix this?20:27
wallacejbjyour a star mate thanks it worked a treat before20:27
g4lv4tr0ndronix yea my bad just got out the bath my irc was a bit behind lol20:27
alinonlucax on a laptop i take it?20:27
scuniziSchuyler: weird.. check pirate bay.. someone uploaded the latest there too20:27
girdyanyone know how to install a WMA-DRM decoder in ubuntu?20:27
alienkidhow do I make the home folder, trash, and file system appear on the desktop?20:28
xcdfgkjhgcvscunizi: Isn't it now illegal to download torrents off TPB?20:28
girdyby decoder, i mean a plugin for rhythmbox. does one exist?20:28
wallacejbji'm quite new to ubuntu and trying my best to learn but as always i'm coming back to your guys for help and your always there to get me by20:28
g4lv4tr0ngirdy checkout the wiki20:28
scunizixcdfgkjhgcv: downloading a legal torrent? don't think so20:28
g4lv4tr0nhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty20:28
MaT-dggraingert: in jaunty or a previous release?20:28
loafersSession manager = Display Manager?20:28
girdyg4lv4tr0n: the wiki on WMA-DRM?20:28
g4lv4tr0ni think its restricted extras20:28
xcdfgkjhgcvscunizi: "Since filing a criminal complaint in Sweden in November 2004, the film industry has worked vigorously with Swedish and U.S. government officials in Sweden to shut this illegal website down."20:29
alinoni think torrents have gotten such a bad reputation that the general population just thinks they are illegal even if then content in the torrent is open source20:29
g4lv4tr0ni think WMA support is in restricted extras20:29
danbhfivegirdy: have you tried medibuntu?20:29
alinonzoMG o·.o20:29
thurstonHello, I am trying to upgrade from Ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04. All my updates are in order. There is a connectivity related error that I get, which always appears at the same point. This is the message I get in the error window : W:Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch20:29
thurston, W:Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-security/main/source/Sources.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch20:29
thurston, W:Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch20:29
thurston, E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. Please help.20:29
FloodBot2thurston: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.20:29
Slart!pastebin | thurston20:29
ubottuthurston: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)20:29
mib_4a6rubi upgrade to the latest release today.My X stops working, hung on login screen. how do i save my box ?20:29
justanothercoderhello, i have an ubuntu laptop that has an user logged in and a session running. is there anyway i can login to the laptop via remote ssh and then grab a screenshot of the session running there?20:30
girdydanbhfive: medubuntu, how do i install it?20:30
orudieso which is recommended by official ubuntu, gnome or k ?20:30
alinongnome ofcourse20:30
BobCFCorudie, gnome is the default20:30
Slartorudie: gnome for ubuntu, kde for kubuntu, xfce for xubuntu20:30
rskiorudie: none is recomended20:30
danbhfivegirdy: medibuntu20:30
rskiorudie: use what you want20:30
uni4dfxeveryone shut down your computers so my upgrade packages can download faster!! :D20:31
Slartorudie: they are all supported20:31
Dreamgliderim making a new partition and then a copy of the current ubuntu setup, then ill try to update to 9.04. crossing fingers.:)20:31
lucaxi miss hardy20:31
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neggejustanothercoder: I don't think that's possibly (atleast not without somehow restarting the other session atleast once), but I might be wrong20:31
alinonif you want a windows clones use kde, if you want something that easier to skin, use gnome20:31
girdydanbhfive: is it just sudo apt-get install medibuntu?20:31
graingertgirdy, no20:31
Slart!medibuntu | girdy20:31
ubottugirdy: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org20:31
BobCFCorudie, you find about 60% use gnome, 30% Kde and 10% xfce other on ubuntu20:31
girdyubottu: thanks!20:31
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)20:31
SN0WB4LLhi, why I haven't got sound in ubuntu 9.04?20:31
deanyvlc has a seperate window for playin videos, yet its set to "integrate video into main display"..20:32
justanothercodernegge : so there is no way i can attach to an existing session?20:32
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g4lv4tr0nDreamglider there is a way to save/backup a list of instaled apps then do clean install and use the backed up list to automate the app installs20:32
Guzai dont have access to my dvd rom20:32
scunizixcdfgkjhgcv: yes.. so they will monitor you downloading a legal torrent.. what are they going to do send a cease and dissist order to you?20:32
g4lv4tr0nyou can do this with synaptic20:32
lucaxhow do i enable control alt backspace again?20:32
sl00Hi again. I am trying to install using another monitor now. It works kinda okey but GDM seem to set a resolution which is too high even though I only have 1027x768, 1280x1024 and 1360x768 in /etc/X11/xorg.conf...Why is that? xrandr also show modes that is not in the xorg.conf and not supported by the monitor!?!20:32
Guzahow can i fix this20:32
irmandos!isitout20:32
BobCFCvlc there is a bug in 0.9.6 version of VLC they did that on perpose, if you get 1.0 beta it is fixed but not in Jaunty because still beta20:32
ubottuIts out! http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download20:32
neggejustanothercoder: not remotely afaik. Atleast not with SSH. If you would have enabled "remote desktop sharing" on the running session you could have remotely attached to the session using a VNC client20:32
Dreamgliderg4lv4tr0n: how ?20:32
Guzawhen i login as root i can see files on dvd20:32
sl00How can I have GDM use 1360x768 or lower ?20:32
xcdfgkjhgcvscunizi: They could do. I got the torrent from an illegal source.20:33
weather15https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes < Needs to be updated20:33
sl00And how do I get rid of modes like 1600x1200 which are not supported?20:33
justanothercodernegge : if remote desktop sharing is enabled, can i login without alerting the current user?20:33
weather15There a setting for that20:33
scunizixcdfgkjhgcv: I don't know where you're at but in the US legal site or not makes no difference.. it's a legal torrent.20:33
Guzacan someone help me20:33
Guza?20:33
g4lv4tr0nDreamglider i think its save markings as in synaptic20:33
sebsebseb!ask |  Guza20:33
CryovatHey20:33
ubottuGuza: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)20:33
neggejustanothercoder: I think so. When enabling desktop sharing you can choose whether the user using the session should be notified via a popup or not20:33
CryovatAnyone here installed 9.04 on an Eee 900?20:33
g4lv4tr0ncan anyone confirm this ^20:33
neggesebsebseb: he already asked...20:34
JPZ`Hello everyone. I accidently chmod /var/log. and now im unable to view my logs via the GUI log viewer. What is the default chmod value for /var/log ?20:34
MaT-dgCTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE isn't working in jaunty?20:34
rskiMaT-dg: nope20:34
BobCFCxcdfgkjhgcv, goto bittorrent.com it's a proper company20:34
dronixJPZ: 64420:34
danbhfive!notes | MaT-dg20:34
ubottuMaT-dg: Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) release notes can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes20:34
rskiMaT-dg: you need to add it back if you want it20:34
sebsebsebCryovat: I expect hardly anyone has.  9.04 only released today.  and people who were trying when in development I expect like no one did on a EEPC20:34
scunizixcdfgkjhgcv: until the site no longer exists or is totally blocked by the internet police, it's accessable20:34
orudiei'm thinking about installing ubuntu dekstop today , should i do it ?20:34
justanothercodernegge : can i set desktop sharing to be enabled by default for all users?20:34
CryovatI'm running the live version on an Eee 900 and lags a lot20:34
JPZ`dronix, thanks20:34
g4lv4tr0nDreamglider ill check quick 2 secs20:34
xcdfgkjhgcvscunizi: LOL in my country, it's illegal to rip/burn a CD!!!20:34
EeeUser300Hi, is there already a method to install 9.04 final via usb stick?20:34
Guzasebsebseb: well i cant access to my dvd rom as user only as root i can access to my dvd. can u help me to solve this problem20:35
shell_userUNETBOOTING20:35
sebsebseb!install |  EeeUser30020:35
ubottuEeeUser300: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation.  Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - see also !automate20:35
neggejustanothercoder: I don't know if the settings are global for all users or not. You could try. Or you could edit the appropriate configuration file for the user you want but I don't know exactly which one it is.20:35
shell_user>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>UNETBOOTING  FOR LIVE FROM USB STICK<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<20:35
g4lv4tr0nDreamglider http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty#Reinstalling_applications_after_a_fresh_install20:35
Slartorudie: try a live cd first.. there will be less crying if it doesn't work that way20:35
g4lv4tr0nhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty#Reinstalling_applications_after_a_fresh_install20:35
mrwesno updates today from the RC aye?20:35
xcdfgkjhgcvThere's too many people here.20:35
CryovatIt feels really sluggish20:35
shell_userhe20:35
shell_userxdfg20:35
shell_usersdg20:35
shell_usersdfg20:35
shell_usersdf20:35
FloodBot2shell_user: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.20:35
Slartorudie: never just upgrade your one-and-only live system20:35
aDeckwhat`s the username and password for ubuntu 9.04 livecd ? :/20:35
mrwesaDeck, there isn't one20:35
g4lv4tr0nCryovat good to see you still here its been a while :)20:35
shell_userno20:35
sebsebsebGuza: your DVD drive is not being detected?20:35
alinoni wonder if anyone has upgraded without **any issues yet20:36
Slartshell_user: broken keyboard? drunk? just annoying?20:36
ChampainI have20:36
mrwesalinon, I have20:36
sebsebsebalinon: of course20:36
CryovatHi g4lv4tr0n :-)20:36
SlartaDeck: don't think there is one20:36
HBXwhats the torrent link for jaunty20:36
Guzasebsebseb: no just i cant access to them20:36
sebsebsebI wonder how many people are running 9.04 on Ext4 :d20:36
shell_userim no just fun20:36
SlartaDeck: it asks you for one?20:36
BobCFCaDeck, blank password20:36
Guzasebsebseb: i dont have permisions20:36
Slart!torrents20:36
ubottuJaunty can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your archieecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).20:36
neggeHBX: check the topic20:36
bsanderswhats the md5sum of the i386 desktop iso for jaunty?20:36
sebsebseb!permissions |  Guza20:36
ubottuGuza: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions20:36
alinonsebsebseb: ya think so? cool maybe there's hope for me yet ;)20:36
Champain9.04 fixed the issue with my external HDD :D20:36
RoyallIs Jaunty supposed to be downloading uber slow?20:36
HBXthanks20:36
neggeRoyall: it's slow for me too20:36
uni4dfxroyall: yes20:36
RoyallIn fact, it's not downloading at all for me20:36
sebsebsebalinon: uh???20:36
uni4dfxeveryone stop upgrading20:36
SlartRoyall: you and the rest of the world is getting it at the same time.. it'll be slow for a whike20:36
Dougshelli assume things are just bogged down20:37
weather15Yes slow for me to20:37
uni4dfxso i can upgrade faster20:37
bill102299can anyone hearme?20:37
BobCFCRoyall, I got the torrent at 2MB a sec20:37
misbachWhere do I download the netbook remix ISO (not the IMG)?20:37
Dougshellyeah it has stalled forme20:37
shoulahwhy i can't obtain the torrent file for 9.0420:37
mrwesheh uni4dfx20:37
Guzasebsebseb: i know that and cdrom is readonly fs20:37
happosadeRoyall: Try torrent. I think that servers are down for few days now.20:37
aDecki tried: ubuntu, linux, root nothing seems to work :/20:37
sebsebsebGuza: ok  need to give it permissons20:37
RoyallBobCFC: I don't wanna start from scratch though20:37
sebsebsebGuza: you know how to edit fstab?20:37
SlartaDeck: root? ubuntu uses sudo20:37
Guzayes20:37
orudieSlart: i have vista installed, i want to keep that and install ubuntu as dual boot20:37
kkduesudo passwd root20:37
kkdue:D20:37
Brunersbest place to start if i lost my sound after upgrading to 9.04 ?20:37
happosadeSlart: maybe sudo su?20:37
Slartorudie: still.. try the live cd first20:37
Guzawhat to type20:37
Guza?20:37
BobCFCshoulah, try  http://torrent.ubuntu.com:696920:37
Slarthapposade: sigh.. no.. wrong.. man sudo for goodness20:38
sebsebsebGuza: also the  giving nautilus  root   thing gksudo  and then changing your permissions for the drive graphicalley, that might work20:38
aDeckok, tried sudo and blank pass too20:38
orudieSlart: are you saying it may not work ?20:38
alinonorudie: have you thought about using wubi?20:38
Slart!root20:38
Royallhapposade: Do I need to start from scratch from the ISO?20:38
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo20:38
HBXwill i lose my setting if i do an upgrade20:38
orudiealinon: whats wubi ?20:38
happosadeSlart: yap, i know, but someone use root :X20:38
Royallhapposade: Or can I upgrade using the ISO?20:38
sebsebseb!wubi >  orudie20:38
ubottuorudie, please see my private message20:38
sebsebseborudie: I woudn't normalley recommend installing Ubuntu with wubi20:38
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kkduesudo passwd root if you want to risk20:38
kkdue:D20:38
alinonorudie: allows you to install ubuntu from within vista20:38
FlannelRoyall: You can upgrade with the alternate CD, but not the desktop CD.20:38
Slarthapposade: people do all kinds of stupid things.. yesterday I walked into a lamp post20:38
sebsebsebalinon: it's better to partition a hard disk for real20:39
Slarthapposade: =)20:39
Dreamgliderg4lv4tr0n: can you paste that link again ?20:39
alinonsebsebseb: true, but for beginniner...20:39
HBXso should i download the alternate cd20:39
happosadeSlart: I fell with my bike. :P20:39
sebsebsebalinon: yes even for beginner20:39
HBXwhats the alternate cd's torrent link20:39
sebsebsebalinon: a dual boot is not that difficult to set up20:39
bsandersanyone know where I can find the md5sums for the released isos?20:39
SlartHBX: if you want a text mode installer.. yes20:39
alinonsebsebseb: it's gain allot of popularity, so i presume it's not too bad haha20:39
Jeruvysebsebseb: I'd disagree, but opinions are just that :)  wubi is a great and easy way to dual boot without all the dumb MBR breaking.20:39
Guzayes but this is not solutions20:39
mrweshttp://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent20:39
uni4dfxHBX: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/jaunty/20:39
SlartHBX: or you need to install ubuntu on a computer with less than 128Mb memory.. or use some other weird install options20:40
kulight!ubuto20:40
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuto20:40
sebsebsebJeruvy: if  Windows is not fragmented.  Ubuntu can be slow. if Windows get a nasty virus that deltes  it,  well  bye bye Ubuntu20:40
Slart!torrents20:40
alinon*gained too...20:40
ubottuJaunty can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your archieecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).20:40
kulight!ubotu20:40
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots20:40
racecar56anyone know how to make all removable media allow me to make directories and all without being root?20:40
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orudieso wubi is like a vm ? or is it better ?20:40
psychiccan someone help me correct my screen size20:40
xemacs4321<<< donating large pipe to torrent pool20:40
sebsebsebalinon: who  are you going to listen to, someone that is pretty new to Ubuntu  telling you that Wubi is good,  or someone like me, who has used Ubuntu since the second release in 2005?20:40
happosadeHow long takes to make Gnome from sources @ 2,7GHz duacore20:41
racecar56!root > me20:41
psychicits got a black border around it20:41
ubotturacecar56, please see my private message20:41
racecar56lol20:41
alinonorudie: better, there is a performance hit and no 3-d graphics20:41
happosade!source > me20:41
ubottuhapposade, please see my private message20:41
alinonor atleast last i checked20:41
sebsebsebalinon: I woudn't normalley recommend wubi, but sometimes there is a good reason for it20:41
shoulahthank you but i wanna say that the torrent links on the official ubuntu site didn't work with me thank u again20:41
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Flannelhapposade: We have no idea.  Whats wrong with the binary packages?20:41
orudiealinon: no 3d graphics in wibu ?20:41
Jeruvysebsebseb: Thats the same for 'any' windows app.   That doesn't mean wubi is worse than dual booting.  Nuking windows and sticking to ubuntu would tho :)20:41
racecar56yeah20:41
Guest41960me <o_0>20:41
kulight!torrents20:41
ubottuJaunty can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your archieecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).20:41
racecar56anyone know how to make all removable media allow me to make directories and all without being root?20:42
happosadeFlannel: for tweaking :) And just for fun.20:42
bsanders!ubottu20:42
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots20:42
orudiewubi i mean20:42
alinonorudie: check out wubi-installer.org for more info20:42
sebsebsebJeruvy: if people are going to have  Ubuntu inside Windows, then maybe they should run a virtual machine rather than Wubi20:42
sl00Guys... why is xrandr (and te screen resolution program) displaying modes that are not supported (and modes not even in xorg.conf) ?!?20:42
sebsebsebJeruvy: at least that way they can run both OS's at the same time20:42
alinonorudie: it's not for everyone, but it doesn't do anything permanant so it's worth a try20:43
Dreamgliderg4lv4tr0n: can you paste that link again pls (you can pm it to me also if you want)20:43
sebsebsebJeruvy: of course really  Windows should be the guest, unless it's  on say a 3D  Windows gaming machine20:43
psychicanyone know how to fix display sizing problems???20:43
orudiealinon: so with wubi i'll be able to use desktop effects like compiz and stuff right ?20:43
mrwes4722 seeders  hehe20:43
sebsebseborudie: yes probably20:44
racecar56anyone know how to make all removable media allow me to make directories and all without being root?20:44
moxfalder9.04 really fast !20:44
racecar56anyone know how to make all removable media allow me to make directories and all without being root?20:44
racecar56ooops20:44
racecar56sorry for repeat20:44
sourcemakerisnt there any easy way to configure wlan in ubuntu? (command line) ?????20:44
alinonorduie: there's some known issues with compiz, but it does work20:44
sebsebseborudie: ,but  your still running Ubuntu in a section of your Windows partition, which for varous reasons isn't really the best idea20:44
thiebaudemoxfalder: yup20:44
sourcemaker!wlan20:44
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs20:44
sebsebseborudie: expesailly when setting up a proper partitioned dual boot, is not exactly difficult20:44
LordMetroStupid me20:44
racecar56!windows > me20:45
ubotturacecar56, please see my private message20:45
shoulahi use wicd for manage my wireless connection20:45
LordMetroI upgraded Ubuntu without backing up my data20:45
LordMetroNow I canät come past IO APIC20:45
cannonballA coworker downloaded the Desktop ISO.  It does not allow me to do any type of upgrade, only install new or side by side.  The "getubuntu/upgrading" webpage mentions the alternate cd/dvd.  Is alternate required to do an upgrade?20:45
Jeruvysebsebseb: how would a virtual machine be 'different' than a wubi-managed disk?20:45
LordMetroIO APIC resource could not be allocated.20:45
orudiesebsebseb: will ubuntu desktop installation cd prompt me if I want to set up dual boot? i want to plug in a dedicated hard drive for ubuntu20:45
LordMetroGave up waiting for root device20:45
neggehas anyone noticed any regressions with Vmware Workstation 6.5 after upgrading to Jaunty?20:45
LordMetroAnd then I am in the initramfs shell20:45
LordMetroWhat do I do?20:46
frostburni'm getting this error here when opening http://paste.ubuntu.com/156723/20:46
thiebaudeLordMetro: you have an intel video card?20:46
sebsebsebJeruvy: Ubuntu virtualmachines and wubi  are good for trying, but shoudn't really be used for proper long term usage20:46
LordMetroMaybe, I am not sure20:46
MIshtalHi there, I've been using for Ubuntu since gutsy, and regularly beta (and also occasionally alpha) test. When I upgraded my laptop to the jaunty beta a month or so ago, Booting gave me scrambled graphics until I dropped to the root recovery console and removed xorg-driver-flgrx. Now that jaunty's been officially released, when I tried installing the package I get the same results at boot.20:46
MIshtalDoes anyone have any info on whether xorg-driver-flgrx is supported in jaunty? are we completely switching  to the open source drivers? Is this an issue unique to me? Is there perhaps a configuration setting i missed?20:46
LordMetroIt is the laptop so I never really used the video card20:46
Jeruvynegge: we had one machine barf, I'm not looking into it.  But one of many isn't too bad :)20:46
DarthFrognegge: VMware 6.5 works for me, under Kubunut20:46
tidbeckI have a ATI mobility card and have problem with performance. I set accelmethod to XAA wich helped a little, anyone got some more tips?20:46
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alinondang that's twice now that the download for my upgrade has quit all together :(20:47
LordMetroI mean, I never taken notice to what video card it is20:47
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sebsebseborudie: I normalley manualley partition  the hard disks :)    more control, but  I think a guided install can  even do the dual boot20:47
iListenUPlease help, i get problem in: http://parduoduv.puslapiai.lt at header error. (top). What can it be?20:47
neggeDarthFrog: on Jaunty?20:47
sebsebseborudie: setting  partitions up manualley is a good idea :) since more control, plus with 9.04  you can choose to have the optional Ext4 file system instead of the defualt Ext320:47
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DarthFrognegge: Yep.  Ran fine in the beta/RC and now release.20:48
orudieso ext4 is better ?20:48
orudiesebastien: ^^20:48
rippstidbeck: If your using EXA and the opensource driver, I reccomend enabling AccelDFS in xorg.conf. I greatly speeds up things like Flash20:48
DaskreechSi there no Flgrx in jaunty ?20:48
Daskreech!fglrx20:48
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto20:48
LordMetroHow can I backup my data when I am stuck in initramfs?20:48
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sebsebseborudie:   apparnatly their are a few issues with it,  well  the file system is good, but the kernel Ubuntu uses needs some changes apparnatly.  however loads of people have got on just fine with Ext420:48
alinonext4 hasn't been extenstively tested yet, use at your own risk20:48
minimecMIshtal: Probably your card is not supported anymore (like my x1250) http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.7&product=2.7.4.3.3.3.1&lang=English20:48
tidbeckripps: Ok, thank you I will try that20:48
neggeDarthFrog: great. I've been running a Vista x64 guest, hope it's still all good after upgrading. I've had some issues with exiting fullscreen when I have desktop effects and TV-out enabled simultaneosly, would be great if that problems would go away20:49
rippsDaskreech: fgrlx only works with rv600+ cards in Jaunty, AMD removed support for older cards20:49
Guzawhat i need to edit in fs tab to all users can access dvd drive?????????20:49
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a-stray-cat1anyone else getting an error that the 9.04-desktop-amd64 torrent file is invalid?20:49
weather15 /join xubuntu20:49
mrwes!mount20:49
ubottuFor help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted or !QtParted - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap20:49
sebsebseborudie: 9.04 in a way is a bit pointless on Ext3,  since  8.10 is good enough on Ext3.   one of the major features of  9.04 is Ext420:49
Daskreechripps: Sooo ubuntu doesn't carry it anymore?20:49
DarthFrognegge: Can't say about any interaction that way.  I have desktop effects turned off and no TV card in this machine.20:49
alinonif you didn't mind just backing up stuff in vista you don't want to lose, i suggest just installing Ubuntu by itself, and running like XP or vista in virtualbox20:49
alinonwho needs that virus ridden OS ;p20:50
girdyit's a nice day out im going out side later people20:50
MIshtal1minimec: do you remember the command off hand to find which card i have? I got my laptop 3 years ago and don't recall.20:50
orudiesebastien -> so you saying there isnt many changes from8.10 to 9.04 ?20:50
DarthFrogalinon: Gamers do.20:50
BobCFCoche vista in virtual is a killa, make it xp20:50
neggeDarthFrog: okay. Guess my situation isn't the most common one. Disabling desktop effects or TV-out fixes it though so it's not a showstopper20:50
sebsebseborudie: Ext4 is meant to be faster,  have faster  disk checking and things.20:50
rippsDaskreech: No, jaunty comes with catalyst 9.4, but you need to have one of the newer cards to use, otherwise the opensource works just as good with the older cards anyway.20:50
zanberdoBobCFC, thank you for the link to the ffmirror script.  I've adapted it to my needs and have created my own mirror list.  I"m running the test now. this should do the trick20:50
minimecMIshtal1: lspci |grep VGA20:50
* mikemikemike1234 <o_0>20:50
mrwesMIshtal1, lspci | grep VGA20:50
alinonDarthFrog: i can play games in virtualbox lol20:50
orudiesebastien -> yeah i'll probably try that20:50
BobCFCzanberdo, wow cool :)20:50
DarthFrogalinon: Games that require 3d?20:50
bigoshello!20:50
Guzai cant find mount options20:51
racecar56hi20:51
alinonDarthFrog: playing icwind dale 2 right now20:51
orudiesebsebseb -> keep typing the wrong nick lol20:51
PorkChop_hi guys20:51
racecar56hi20:51
sebsebseborudie: quite a few changes under the hood,  but  user changes not as such,  but don't listen to me entirely yet, because  I  still have to get rid of this   upgraded  8.10 to  alpha6, to beta, to release candiate install.  that is running Ext3.  and clean install  and do Ext420:51
BobCFCzanberdo, i was worried that response time != bandwith but for today it might help anyway20:51
Miles1hey20:51
bigoswhat could it be, when my system doesn't recognize my wifi card? its w lekcjach.20:51
bigosZmiana ustaw: o powszechnym obowiązku obronnym oraz o kulturze fizycznej była konieczna, by nie doszło do niezgodności z mającym wejść w życie od 1 września br. rozporządzeniem ministra edukacji w sprawie podstaw programowych nauczania poszczególnych przedmiotów w szkole. Rozporządzenie to - wydane na podstawie ustawy o systemie oświaty - zawiera zapisy określające, jaki zakres wiedzy i u20:51
PorkChop_I have a question regarding network-manager and wireless networks20:51
MIshtal1Mimic you are right, its on the list. thanks for the info20:51
alinonæævirtualboxææ ææfTWææ20:51
bigosawwww20:51
bigossorry20:51
FloodBot2bigos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.20:51
DarthFrogalinon: Interesting.  What compromises do you have to make to do that?20:51
SeViLLahey is it just me or is the update repository downloading slow20:51
PorkChop_i have configured 2 networks (one with wep and one with wpa)20:51
Miles1SeVilla same for me20:51
racecar56SeViLLa, not you20:51
PorkChop_it all works well20:51
orudiesebsebseb -> why do you have to go through all that ?20:51
mrwesSeViLLa, it's slow20:51
alinonnone actually, i give virtualbox 1gig of ram and 256mb of video memory20:52
MIshtal1minimec: your right, its on the list thanks for the information20:52
uni4dfxSevilla, what did you expect, everyone's upgrading20:52
minimecMIshtal1: np20:52
alinonwhich is nothing for my system20:52
skaidriusi cant get the video working. im gettin blank screen vith audio or nothing at all20:52
PPT`awayanyone have a minute (or two :P) to help me out, i'm trying to get my wired connection on a computer to work, ifconfig is showing what i presume the errors to be in "TX errors:17 etc carrier:17"20:52
sebsebseborudie: ,because I  got 9.04 early when  on alpha6,  and  some of the bugs  have remained.  and I need to clean install anyway for full Ext4 suppourt :)20:52
skaidriuswith jaunty20:52
Miles1if we even installed rc, we can just update to standard release20:52
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SeViLLak i just wanted to make sure20:52
admin_masu3701what are the new features that 9.04 brings compare to 8.10?20:52
mrwes!Jaunty20:52
Daskreech!changelog20:52
racecar56admin_masu3701, newer stuffs20:52
ubottuUbuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) is the current release of Ubuntu.  Download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810 - Please use !torrents20:52
zanberdoBobCFC, yeah, probably not a problem.  I'm just trying to avoid the bottle neck which will be prevalent over the next week... I'm not even upgrading! I just need to install the periodic package on an established server.20:52
ubottuchangelogs for Ubuntu packages can be found on http://changelogs.ubuntu.com20:52
PorkChop_except that if I click on a the network name in the list of all detected network, it creates another entry, instead of using my configured one20:52
thedusthello i wanted to know how do you change the drive you want to install ubuntu to?20:52
acr0nymadmin_masu3701, google :) but mainly, faster bootup times, and the use of ext4 plus a boatload of driver fixes20:53
racecar56thedust, ez20:53
racecar56!install20:53
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation.  Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - see also !automate20:53
DarthFrog!torrents20:53
ubottuJaunty can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your archieecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).20:53
xemacs4321torrent of the ISO image best way to go for upgrade !!!20:53
BobCFCzanberdo, good luck20:53
jpnubDoes anyone here use multi-monitors with the new notification system20:53
moepMan1hi folks... my girlfriend has ubuntu 9.04 installed but her 21" monitor just gives her a resolution of 800x600. she has a s3 savage 8 graphics adaptor and a hitachi cm823F monitor... can somebody please help?20:53
sebsebsebadmin_masu3701: newer versin of Gnome,  fading backgrounds,  you can  put colour on the top nad bottom if a background is not  big enough.   new GDM screen.   KDE 4.2.  better atheros wireless suppourt, and things20:53
zanberdoBobCFC, thanks20:53
sebsebsebadmin_masu3701: optional Ext4 file system20:53
* mikemikemike1234 already upgraded....everything works apart from atheros 5006 wi-fi20:53
orudiesebsebseb -> so when do you think  you are going to do clean install, i'm thinking to do it in about 4 hours20:53
alinonDarthFrog: virtualbox has really come a long way for real! - it lets me keep that virus ridden OS confined !20:53
Popoicongratulations for the new release!!20:53
PassePartouTanyone have a minute (or two :P) to help me out, i'm trying to get my wired connection on a computer to work, ifconfig is showing what i presume the errors to be in "TX errors:17 etc carrier:17"20:53
DarthFrogalinon: As it should be. :-)20:53
mikemikemike1234so how do you get atheros cards to work now?20:54
Miles1i love intel wlan cards20:54
DarthFrogPassePartouT: Check your ethernet cable.20:54
SeViLLaacr0nym: the ext4 file system doesnt come by default though does it20:54
moepMan1hi folks... my girlfriend has ubuntu 9.04 installed but her 21" monitor just gives her a resolution of 800x600. she has a s3 savage 8 graphics adaptor and a hitachi cm823F monitor... can somebody please help?20:54
jpnubsevilla: no20:54
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Miles1are there supposed to be any updates for 9.04rc?20:54
officesudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic linux-backports-modules-`uname -r`20:54
mikemikemike1234no...u have to  make a clean install20:54
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officesudo modprobe ath5k20:54
PassePartouTDarthFrog it should work fine, i had internet on winxp in the same setup not 24hrs ago20:54
sebsebseborudie: I am not in a rush,  this install I got is  ok really,  I can do my actsaul computur usage with it.   however it's not quite the full experience, but by what I have seen of 9.04,  and  with all my Ubuntu experience I know that 9.04 isn't that amazing really.20:55
tmaddenhas anyone tried release 9.04 yet? is it stable?20:55
admin_masu3701nice....i hope my wireless card will work cause i had problem when i was using 9.04 beta..the card couldnt work20:55
acr0nymnope SeViLLa :) but as far as I remember you couldn't use it with 8.1020:55
Miles1lol it should be stable20:55
sebsebseborudie: I probably clean install this weekend,  the download servers will be packed now20:55
iGamaMiles1, if you have updated the system it is the final20:55
mikemikemike1234stable..20:55
PassePartouTDarthFrog could something else be stopping it? maybe a router? or does it sound like the cable20:55
PorkChop_does anybody know why clicking on a wireless network in network-manager it creates a new entry called "Auto <network-name>" if network is already configured?20:55
iGamatmadden, very stable20:55
jpnubtmadden: Has been for the past few months20:55
Miles1so i can update 9.04rc to final20:55
Miles1thanks20:55
DarthFrogPassePartouT: Do you have another one you can swap it with?  Check the connections.20:55
Miles1but updates are slow.... and cannot get repo info20:55
orudiesebsebseb -> yes, im actually updating my server its going only at 40 kb/s :(20:55
uni4dfxdoes mounting an ext3 filesystem as ext4 instead improve performance or do you need to enable the new ext4 features?20:55
sebsebsebadmin_masu3701: yeah I hope so to, because the wireless issues' were so common with 8.10.  not Ubuntu's fault though,  wireless manufactures yes20:55
PassePartouTDarthFrog yeah i'll take a look for another then come back20:56
moepMan1my girlfriend has ubuntu 9.04 installed but her 21" monitor just gives her a resolution of 800x600. she has a s3 savage 8 graphics adaptor and a hitachi cm823F monitor... can somebody please help?20:56
iGamaMiles1, did you do an update in the last 3 days?20:56
DarthFrogPassePartouT: It sounds like an ethernet issue, not a TCP/IP issue.20:56
iGamaMiles1, if yes, you have the final version20:56
Miles1yes about 12 hours ago and got a couple20:56
sebsebsebuni4dfx: you can do something to Ext3 to get partial  Ext4 suppourt, you need to clean install and set up proper Ext4 partitions yourself, for the full experience20:56
acr0nymmoepMan1, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution20:56
jpnubPassePartouT: if you are using a pci ethernet card make sure it is plugged in all the way?20:56
admin_masu3701but i will give it a try again20:57
admin_masu3701hope it works fine20:57
uni4dfxsebsebseb: yeah i thought so20:57
PorkChop_another question: I upgraded to 9.04 today, but lsb_release -d says "Ubuntu jaunty (development branch)"20:57
sebsebsebuni4dfx: also apparnatly Ext4 well  the file system  I guess is alright, but Ubuntu's kernel needs some changes for it really20:57
PassePartouTjpnub i know the card is fine, i'll try the cable but i'm skeptical cause i know the cable works, hopefully i kicked it out or something, lol, let me go see what it says when it fails to connect20:57
PorkChop_this sounds like it's not the 9.04 final?20:57
admin_masu3701whats the deal with the ext4?20:57
ubuntu_hi all problem with instalation grub 22 error20:57
sebsebsebPorkChop_: maybe they forgot to update that20:58
Destinatusi can't get any kind of 3d/opengl to work.20:58
KenBW2can anyone help me getting Google Reader to work offline?20:58
Destinatusneed some help20:58
mrweshrmm...can't grab the alternate install iso torrent; anyone else have issues with that?20:58
Champainext4 is new and buggy but its faster than ext320:58
sebsebsebDestinatus: you got your graphics card driver installed?20:58
BobCFCmrwes, , try  http://torrent.ubuntu.com:696920:58
Destinatussebsebseb: yes. nvidia 1.8020:58
sebsebsebChampain: it's an odd one, some people say it's buggy,  others say they use it, and that it works great20:58
Miles19.04 is supposed to be about ~4gb right20:58
mrwesBobCFC, gotcha -- thanks20:58
uni4dfxso bottom line: don't use ext4 yet20:58
reinisyour download page sucks20:59
alinonhopefully by the time the next distro is out, ext4 will be stable20:59
sebsebsebMiles1:  for an upgrade or clean install?20:59
reiniswhere are the .torrents?20:59
xemacs4321Destinatus, i have complete torrent for am64 alternative20:59
reiniswhy doesn't it tell me the size of ISOs?20:59
sebsebsebMiles1: a clean install of Ubuntu takes up about 1GB20:59
reinisWTF20:59
mrwesBobCFC, that's the mutha load aye? heh20:59
Miles1install with 9.04rc, updated, then some prog tools20:59
sebsebsebreinis: the ISO will be like 700MB20:59
scunizisebsebseb: the difference being some remember the beta testing and don't know anything about the fixes that have been done20:59
Dada_Hi there. I'm trying the new Ubuntu in a virtual machine. Apparently the user is logged out immediately after the boot is  complete. It's now looping between logging in the Live CD user and returning to the login screen. This a known problem? :)20:59
sebsebsebreinis: CD size20:59
rskiDada_: nope21:00
CaneToadbetter to upgrade online or from installation CD?21:00
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BobCFCmrwes, yes the SHA1s seem to be wrong on that list get them from the other page if you need them21:00
graingertCaneToad, online21:00
alinonDada_: why use virtualmachine? that's not a natural environment21:00
rskiCaneToad: dosen't matter21:00
reinissebsebseb: thanks, but that's not what I'm asking21:00
sebsebsebscunizi: what are you trying to say?  and yeah their is a lot of ignorance when it comes to Ext4 in 9.04,  if it's stable enough or not etc21:00
PorkChop_can somebody who did a clean install from scratch of 9.04 show me their output from lsb_release -d ?21:00
Dada_alinon: not natural environment, sure, but no other version has done that.21:00
CaneToadgraingert: why do you say online?21:00
BobCFCmrwes, but torrent does error checking anyway bit pointless21:00
wallacejbjreinis 32 or 64 bit?21:00
Destinatuswhen i run glxdemo i get: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual21:00
reinis3221:00
wallacejbjhttp://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent21:00
Dada_alinon: actually, "not natural environment" is sort of a moot point, don't you think?21:00
mrwesBobCFC, I'm all good now21:00
graingertCaneToad, becuase you lose data if you upgrade from cd21:00
ccaronWhy does the alternate install upgrade insists on downloading packages?21:01
alinonDada_: if the devs don't develope it for that intended virtual hardware, then nuff said21:01
scunizisebsebseb: just saying that those saying ext4 is buggy don't always have personal experience.. they're just parroting previous reports b4 the fixes21:01
KenBW2can anyone help me getting Google Reader to work offline?21:01
PassePartouTDarthFrog it's saying "the network connection has been disconnected" now though i think it was saying something else before like that it couldn't get an address, the cable works because the lights on my hub are blinking, could my router be owning my connection?21:01
BobCFCi've been running ext4 for months without issue on 4 drives21:01
sebsebsebscunizi: apprnatlly  the file system is pretty good now really, but the kernel still needs some changes for Ext4 really?21:01
iGamaPorkChop_, Description:Ubuntu 9.0421:01
Dada_alinon: that's a bit of an easy way to talk yourself out of a very strange error that occurs only with the latest Ubuntu.21:01
officeKenBW2, eys21:01
officeKenBW2, yes21:01
PorkChop_iGama: thanks21:02
KenBW2office: cool, i have Gears installed and it works fine for gmail21:02
OdedPorkChop_, "Ubuntu 9.04"21:02
Dada_By the way, the new installer looks amazing guys.21:02
Hexchdo some of you work with dreambox ?21:02
CaneToadgraingert: are you saying there's no true upgrade path with the cd, only reinstall?21:02
KenBW2office: but google reader sort of half loads the page, but no feeds when offline21:02
PorkChop_i wonder why mine says Ubuntu jaunty (development branch) then :)21:02
graingertCaneToad, I think so, you can use the cd as a repo21:02
ccaronAnyone had success with the 9.04 alternate installer?21:02
Dada_Also, I see that the text anti-aliasing is now under different default settings, BIG +1 frmo me21:02
DarthFrog Hmm, the system just threw up a notification but it cleared before I could read it.  How do I get it back??21:02
sebsebsebPorkChop_: did you have a previous development version?21:02
scuniziCaneToad: only the alternate install cd offers cd upgrades21:03
PorkChop_no21:03
PorkChop_i had 8.1021:03
alinonDada_: feel however you want about it, but if you try submit a bug on launchpad, i'm sure you'll be ignored o.o21:03
JeruvyKenBW2: I'm not sure if you could, wouldn't you have to pre-cache all the feeds locally or via proxy?21:03
c_korndoes anyone else have no sound in jaunty?21:03
sebsebsebPorkChop_: ok  get someone else to  find out what it says for them, that did a clean install of the final21:03
sebsebseb!sound |  c_korn21:03
ubottuc_korn: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP321:03
PorkChop_and about 6 hours ago I started upgrade by clicking "Ugrade Distribution" or something like that21:03
KenBW2Jeruvy: i mean using Google Gears21:03
Dada_alinon: I'm not sure about that! Users should be able to expect that there are no serious system breaking defects in virtualized hardware, right? It's not like Ubuntu is developed "only for real hardware", especially since virtualization is rather popular in some settings.21:04
Oli``I've had flash set up the same way since Pulseaudio came out (ie through ALSA). Is there any way of doing it without sending the audio through ALSA, and if so, what do I need to unbreak?21:04
ccaronWhy does the alternate install upgrade insists on downloading packages?21:04
JeruvyKenBW2: ah I haven't tried that myself..yet.21:04
joseph14hi21:04
PassePartouTneed internet help with "the network connection has been disconnected" error and eth0 is showing TX carrier:XX errors21:04
Praetor_KhanWhat's the word on ext4?  I'm getting mixed signals everywhere I look.  Some ramble on about how much better it is while others are talking about it breaking there system.21:04
graingertOli``, it goes flash->alsa->pulseaudio21:04
xerxesHow can I configure sound, so it is enabled by default?21:04
joseph14my VGA card is not working after installing ubuntu 9.0421:04
alinonDada_: they created the livecd for a reason, there's no reason to use anything else21:04
c_korn!Players | c_korn21:04
ubottuc_korn, please see my private message21:04
neggeI have 8 GB of RAM installed and I'm using 64-bit Ubuntu. The system monitor is telling me I'm only using 11% of the memory, and then I have around 10 applications running including a Vista in a virtual machine which is booting at the moment. Shouldn't it be utilizing way more?21:04
wallacejbjprobably a lazy thing to ask but is there a way or resizing multiple desktop icons at once? i know you can stretch one icon but not multiple at least not that i know of21:04
alinonif you are just wanting to test your hardware that is21:05
saxinPraetor_Khan: Well.. tbh its not that big diffrence...21:05
ccaronWhy does the alternate install upgrade insists on downloading packages?21:05
joseph14but ubuntu 8.10 was working \21:05
rskinegge: nope21:05
Oli``graingert: that's how I've got it set up... I was asking if Flash has improved enough so I could drop the ALSA component21:05
matreya6Well, it looks like the update servers are overloaded again...21:05
scunizialinon: unless of course you want encryption, or lvm or other things that are only available on the alternate cd21:05
graingertnegge, perhaps you have forgotton about cache21:05
graingertOli``, no21:05
Jeruvyccaron: probably because the sources.list is telling it to?21:05
graingertOli``, :-p21:05
Dada_alinon: look, regardless, my argument is that it doesn't work and yours is that you don't care about my use case. I don't think the developers would make that argument!21:05
SandGorgon_!staff21:05
ubottuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian, PriceChild or stew, I could use a bit of your time :)21:05
neggerski: so that means none of my programs need more at the moment?21:05
wallacejbj@matreya6 flash works loads better imo21:05
neggegraingert: swap is at 0 MB21:05
SandGorgon_oops sorry21:05
skaidriuspls help. i cant play video on any player. they plays only sound or nothing. before jaunty all was ok21:05
PiciSandGorgon_: ?21:05
qbrixWill the amd64 version of Ubuntu work for my 64bit Xeon box?21:05
neggeqbrix: yes21:06
rskiyep21:06
SandGorgon_i was pasting somewhere else21:06
qbrixgreat, thx21:06
PiciSandGorgon_: Please don't use that.21:06
iGamaqbrix, its for 64bits21:06
alinonDada_: i highly doubt they would aknowledge it at all haha21:06
PassePartouTneed internet help with "the network connection has been disconnected" error and eth0 is showing TX carrier:XX errors21:06
ccaronShould I do anything more than: gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" ?21:06
joseph14my VGA card is not working after installing ubuntu 9.04   please help me !!21:06
matreya6wallacejbj, Uhm? What does does this have to do with a Jaunty Upgrade?21:06
alinonbut opinions are like allot of things, everyone has one21:06
kmwhitejoseph14: a little more info might help21:06
joseph14ok21:06
sebsebsebjoseph14: graphics card you mean?21:07
wallacejbjsorry i thought you were asking if flash was any better21:07
Dada_alinon: actually, there are plenty of virtualization tickets in the Launchpad which have importance tags and committed fixes.21:07
joseph14my VGA card is not working in my laptop dell inspiron 152521:07
joseph14sebsebseb ,yes21:07
alinonhere's a cookie hehe21:07
sebsebsebjoseph14: is it old?21:07
PassePartouTany suggestions please???? need internet help with "the network connection has been disconnected" error and eth0 is showing TX carrier:XX errors21:07
PassePartouTit is not a cable problem21:08
matreya6wallacejbj, Well, on that I have to say that the version of gnash that I use on my Ubu 8.10 box doesn't work with many sites.21:08
joseph14no21:08
matreya6wallacejbj, I hop that the new gnash version included with jaunty does a better job21:08
PassePartouTany suggestions please???? need internet help with "the network connection has been disconnected" error and eth0 is showing TX carrier:XX errors21:08
alinonwhile your there, submit a ticket of your own or find one that's already been submitted for the issue21:08
joseph14do wanna give you the info about the VGA card ?21:08
c_kornI checked all alsa settings but there is still no sound21:08
sebsebsebGnash and Swfdec are nice, but will always be behind Adobe Flash.     yucky propritary formats21:08
kmwhitejoseph14: please. Also, can you elaborate on 'not working'? Are you getting NO display at all, or Xorg fails to launch?21:09
guntbert!repeat | PassePartouT21:09
theuser1 i am trying to ssh making my pc as the server and as the client. i use dsl through a router (modem) . its stuck on  Connecting to 119.152.52.13 [119.152.52.13] port 22..i give my internet ip in ssh -v ip . can any one guidE?21:09
ubottuPassePartouT: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience21:09
mrwesPassePartouT, you are on a cable modem? with or without a router behind that?21:09
PassePartouTcable with a router behind it21:09
joseph14i meant the visual effects21:09
PassePartouTwired connection21:09
joseph14kmwhite i meant the visual effects21:09
ccppztooltips in kubuntu with kde4.2 are only showing for a fraction of a second (in GTKPod); is there a way to fix it?21:09
Dada_alinon: by the way, 666 pages matching my virtualization software in Launchpad (coincidence? :)21:09
mrwesPassePartouT, did you power each down everything, and then power back up; cable modem first, then the router, then the PC21:10
joseph14so that's mean the VGA card wan't work21:10
minimecjoseph14: so you have working graphics but no visual effects?21:10
xerxesDada: No, youre cursed21:10
matreya6sebsebseb, I agree with you on that, but many YouTube movies will only play correctly on Adobe Flash, not on Gnash21:10
kmwhitejoseph14: Ok, so the graphics card is working, accelleration is not. Is this an intel card?21:10
mrwesPassePartouT, couple minutes inbetween each too21:10
alinonDada_: like i said...here's a cookie :) and while your there find a ticket that relates to your problem or submit your own =D21:10
joseph14yep!21:10
sebsebsebmatreya6: yep so use Adobe Flash21:10
alinonGeez!21:10
joseph14kmwhite yes21:10
PassePartouTmrwes ah maybe not, i'll try restarting once more, i did it the other way e.g. powered down cable, router but had pc on, i'll go try it again21:10
Dada_alinon: yes21:10
joseph14it's intel21:10
progre55so, is it out yet???21:10
canflyoh my.21:11
mrwesPassePartouT, it's more about the order when you power back up21:11
progre55I mean, Jaunty :)21:11
joseph14is there any solution ?21:11
kmwhitejoseph14: do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file or no?21:11
PassePartouTmrwes because the error message that pops up in a bubble did change after i restarted the modem and router21:11
Dada_ack. no advanced search?21:11
billybigriggerwhats the best way to restart my soundsystem?21:11
nightrid3rprogre55: yup21:11
mrwesPassePartouT, gotta do the pc last21:11
dtchenbillybigrigger: using what base?21:11
matreya6sebsebseb, Couldn't install that properly, but it is not on the top of my list. Other things are much more important to me.21:11
billybigriggersudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart21:11
billybigrigger???21:11
PassePartouTmrwes at first it was saying it couldn't get an ip and then it said it was getting d/c from the network21:11
joseph14i don't know ,21:11
progre55nightrid3r, cool, thanks! I'll go upgrade! )21:11
mrwesPassePartouT, I know -- I saw you posts :)21:11
dtchenbillybigrigger: no, that's the system-wide daemon method. we don't use the system-wide daemon by default.21:11
SoftCoderAnyone who how to get hotway working with evolution in ubuntu 9?21:11
sebsebsebmatreya6: by the way  Flash for video really does suck on sites,  Firefox 3.1  has a soloution :)    Firefox 3.1 will be out soonish and  it has HTML 5 suppourt, which means they have suppourt for   new  <video> and <audio> tags and it has built in suppourt for OGG :)   so no need for plugins then for video,  but of course Internet Explorer won't suppourt such good standards,  so  Flash for videos on sites will remain :(21:12
Kai_wpSo if you installed the latest Jaunty Jackalope release candidate, should there be updates to make it the final version since it's out now?21:12
PassePartouTmrwes, i'll let you know how it goes, ty for the help i might wait a bit though cause apparently i downloaded 8.10 last night and so i'm getting the 9.x right now21:12
dtchenbillybigrigger: what's the real issue? (you can restart it with: killall pulseaudio; start-pulseaudio-x11)21:12
billybigriggerdtchen, ok, well i just closed a freenx session and when i did i lost my audio, audicious wont play audio anymore, how can i reset the sound server?21:12
mrwesPassePartouT, I'll be here21:12
joseph14mr. kmwhite , yes i have21:12
PassePartouTmrwes cheers21:12
mrwesPassePartouT, remember the correct power up order..OK?21:12
PassePartouTmrwes ya :)21:12
dtchenbillybigrigger: well, did you nesure that your volume isn't muted?21:12
utferdhi21:12
mrwesPassePartouT, cable modem, router , PC21:12
dtchenensure*21:12
SoftCoderAnyone? - #ubuntu21:12
vart___Kai_wp21:13
progre55nightrid3r, hmm.. it's not in my package manager yet :)21:13
SoftCoderhow to get hotway (hotmail) working with evolution in jaunty?21:13
vart___Kai_wp : just regular update of packages21:13
utferdis there a way to understand my flash disk bootable?21:13
mrwesOk...I'm seeding -- doing my part to feed the sharks!21:13
joseph14kmwhite do you have a solution?21:13
matreya6sebsebseb, sounds really nice, but as long as it is not widely adopted, it's not really that useful. It *is* a good step forward, though.21:13
billybigriggerdtchen, yes i was in the middle of listening to music, i must have freenx configured to use sound as i heard the ubuntu startup sound when i started the freenx session, upon closing it, the mp3's i had playing in audacious suddenly stopped and now i have no audio21:13
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nightrid3rprogre55: it's in update manager21:13
progre55nightrid3r, do I need to download it in order to upgrade? or can I do it using the package manager?21:13
sebsebsebmatreya6: well basically every popular browser will suppourt that, except IE :(21:13
vart___SofCoder : hotmail has a pop3 support21:13
Lyth1how do I go from the RC to 90421:14
sebsebsebmatreya6: IE most lose market share big time,  same thing for Windows really,   Micrsooft really do hold computing back big time21:14
Praetor_KhanIs it better to do a fresh install or just let the update manager handle it.  Bear in mind my current Ibex install is only a few weeks old.21:14
alinonvart___: i believe you have to pay for pop3 support21:14
qbrixwell this download act as a Live CD? -> http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent21:14
progre55nightrid3r, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, isnt it? :)21:14
SoftCoderhow do i config evolution for hotmail then?21:14
mrwesprogre55, the upgrade manager is really slow right now, you can download the alternate install iso and upgrade from that21:14
matreya6sebsebseb, Since IE has around 81% market share still, web developers are still more or less forced to produce dual code21:14
progre55mrwes, okay, thanks21:14
Kai_wpvart__: But the updates should make the release candidate into the final release?21:14
vart___alinon: not anymore21:14
vart___Kai_wp : yes21:15
kmwhitesorry joseph14 , you'll have to forgive me. I'm actually at work now trying to do multiple things :(21:15
sebsebsebmatreya6: yeah, but at  in the next 2 weeks or so,  most Windows users will be asked if they want  to install IE8, and then hopefully at last after  9 years, IE6 can finally die21:15
alinonSoftCoder: use thunderbird with the webmail addon if all else fails21:15
qbrixDoes both the Server and Desktop version act as a LiveCD ??21:15
lepine1has anyone every tried using IEs4linux? to have IE21:15
kmwhitejoseph14: I missed the response. Did you have the xorg.conf file?21:15
sebsebsebmatreya6: yeah, but atleast above21:15
CorpRattXwooo people21:15
lepine1i'm getting installation errors21:15
CorpRattXhello everyone21:15
kelliwhat is ubuntu 9.04 like?21:15
mrwesprogre55, instructions are here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading21:15
kmwhitesebsebseb: Wahoo!21:15
billybigriggerdtchen, so how do i get my sound back, besides rebooting my pc? how can i restart the sound system21:15
mrweskelli, 0.94 better than 8.1021:15
joseph14kmwhite just give me any thing to solve it please :(21:16
billybigriggerdtchen, killall pulseaudio, and start it again?21:16
qbrixDoes both the Server and Desktop version act as a LiveCD ??21:16
vart___hotmail pop3 http://www.firetrust.com/en/blog/chris/hotmail-now-with-free-pop3-and-imap-access21:16
sebsebsebmatreya6: and Ubuntu has most of  Desktop Linux's market share,  and  when it has enough users, well  it's a bit wine to a lot of good software :)21:16
matreya6sebsebseb, sounds lovely, but I heard that IE8 will only be available for Vista and up...21:16
sebsebsebkmwhite: what?21:16
mrwesqbrix, server is NOT a live CD21:16
CorpRattXanyone run the e107  content managment system on their server ?21:16
sebsebsebmatreya6: I think IE8 runs on XP to21:16
CorpRattXor any CMS?21:16
kellihow much better21:16
qbrixok thx21:16
CorpRattXyeah ie8 works on XP21:16
kmwhitejoseph14: I wish I could. If you don't have an xorg.conf file, then X11 is trying to guess your information. I had a buddy who had one and just had to change the 'vesa' driver to 'intel' for it to work21:16
PhotoJimqbrix: most server installations are shell only, no gui.21:16
kmwhitesebsebseb: IE6 dying.21:17
sebsebsebmatreya6: uh typed wrong thing,   when Ubuntu has enough market share,  think about it,  it's a big win  to a lot of good software,   Firefox,  Open Office,  etc etc21:17
nightrid3rCorpRattX: joomla21:17
Lyth1Will the update amanger update to 9.0421:17
magciusIs us.archive.ubuntu.com down?21:17
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magciusIt's timing out for me.21:17
matreya6sebsebseb, I like Ubuntu, but I'm going to try Kubuntu for my next upgrade if the programs bundled with ubuntu still hide so many options.21:17
joseph14kmwhite i told i have xorg.conf21:17
guntbert!ot | kelli21:17
ubottukelli: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!21:17
centyxLyth1: yesh21:17
proqmagcius: it's overburdened due to rc21:17
sebsebsebmatreya6: hide so many options?21:17
Lyth1Doesn't seem to be working21:17
kmwhitejoseph14: I didn't see the scroll back. Sorry. what's the driver line for the video card say?21:17
BobCFCmagcius, try ca lol21:18
magciusBobCFC, how do I change it?21:18
IRWolfie-do-release-upgrade is reporting its on the latest distro, lsb_release -a says im still on 8.1021:18
magciusBobCFC, and is there only one server on us.archive.ubuntu.com?21:18
mrwesmagcius, torrent is the way to go my friend21:18
Lyth1Can I update from a downloaded live disk, or can Ionly do fresih installs that way21:18
sebsebsebkmwhite: indeed, but if it was Windows losing  market share big time, that would be even better,   that  would  also force Microsoft to   properly improve their software.   the amount of stuff they get away with, because they have most of the market21:18
Zloggerhi21:18
joseph14kmwhite  http://www.mibbit.com/pb/kuROOH21:18
BobCFCmagcius, System->Admin->Software Sources21:18
Carcophanhas anyone here too got problems with intel accelerated graphics performance on jaunty?21:18
magciusmrwes, ..I'm installing through apt-get.21:18
CorpRattXnight what do you think of it ?21:18
LordMetroI upgraded Ubuntu an am now stcuk in initramfs with a message: ALER! /dev/disk/by-uuid/fad54659-128e-4cd5-87f9-bb42badac398 does not exist. Dropping to a shell! What do I do?21:18
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sebsebsebmatreya6: by the way KDE3 for 9.04 :)  yay21:18
DrIDKhello! I want to propose a package for ubuntu. Where I need to go ?21:18
kmwhitesebsebseb: I agree. It is pretty absurd.21:18
mrwesmagcius, well it'll be slow :)21:18
joseph14kmwhite i think it's the first one21:19
mrwesmagcius, you can snag the iso via torrent in mintues21:19
kmwhitesebsebseb: When I used to be a web developer, it was the bane of my existence.21:19
nightrid3rCorpRattX: i'ts a great system, easy to use and very expandable21:19
matreya6sebsebseb, Take for instance the comparison between KIIIB and Brasero. Even though the KIIIB version I use is already more than two years old, it gives me the options I need. Brasero is substandard for my burning tasks.21:19
magciusmrwes, as in, I already have Jaunty, I'm just installing a package.21:19
emlHi! I just installed Jaunty through VMWare, and my sound driver doesn't appear to be working. Any tips?21:19
nomasteryodathought this channel would be overrun today...21:19
henryrhodesiiigot my official iso  9.0421:19
IRWolfie-it isnt overrun?21:19
mrwesmagcius, ohh..duh21:19
sebsebsebkmwhite: yeah  I woudn't have minded becoming a pro web developer, but  well  all the stuff you got to do, so   a really good site, works well in IE to21:19
CorpRattXyeah it seems solid21:19
iGamaDrIDK, launchpad, go there and open a bug/feature report21:19
centyxit's nomasteryoda21:19
IRWolfie-do-release-upgrade is reporting its on the latest distro, lsb_release -a says im still on 8.10,anyone any ideas?21:19
CorpRattXplus u just write your own modules21:19
PhotoJimmatreya6: a lot of KDE apps work fine under Gnome.  you could try installing the app you prefer and see how it works.21:20
progre55guys, sorry for such a nooby question.. but I've downloaded the jaunty iso, and now, how to mount it and how to upgrade? :)21:20
Lyth1Can I use a live disk yo update ubuntu?21:20
PhotoJimprogre55: put it in your CD drive.  the system should automount it and offer to upgrade.21:20
sebsebsebmatreya6: Ubuntu is based on Gnome,  they don't have some of the new Gnome stuff even21:20
CorpRattXwho makes the best CMS ?21:20
centyxnomasteryoda: and the main ubuntu servers aren't bogged down like normal either :P21:20
mrwesLyth1, no... unless it's the alternate install cd21:20
guntbert!ot | sebsebseb "you too, my son???"21:20
ubottusebsebseb "you too, my son???": #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!21:20
progre55PhotoJim, I mean, not wasting a CD disc :)21:20
nightrid3rCorpRattX: i hope so, our entire government is run on joomla21:20
PhotoJimprogre55: use a CD-RW.  that's the easiest way.21:20
kmwhitejoseph14: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep [Dd]river21:20
Lyth1Ah, so how long should I wait until update manager is no longer busy?21:20
yaducan someone give me the command to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04?21:21
alinonguntbert: geez....that was harsh haha21:21
sebsebsebLyth1: the weekend?21:21
mrwesLyth1, or grab the alternate iso from torrent21:21
progre55PhotoJim, thanks21:21
emlAnyone else experiencing troubles with your sound driver in Jaunty?21:21
matreya6PhotoJim, true...but on 8.10 most of the help files for KDE programs were broken and displayed other quirky behaviour I would not expect on Kubuntu.21:21
centyxat least they weren't earlier, maybe i spoke too soon21:21
mrwesLyth1, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading21:21
PhotoJimprogre55: if you don't have any there is a way to mount an iso image but it takes a little bit of work.  google should find it for you.21:21
BePhantomhello all, are there any issues with 9.04 and intel graphics? because desktop effects are kinda slow in my 9.0421:21
CorpRattXany pros and cons ?on joomla21:21
guntbertalinon: ? I certainly didn'21:21
PassePartouTCorpRattX it's often way more than you need21:21
guntbertt want to be harsh21:21
magciusBobCFC, wow, thanks, for anybody else having trouble having trouble installing apps, go to Software Sources, and select Choose Best Server.21:21
CorpRattXi mean the government using it is actually a strike against it...21:22
CorpRattXhahaha21:22
tasO:21:22
SoftCoderhurray!21:22
PhotoJimmatreya6: yes, well, it's an option.  and you can migrate Ubuntu to Kubuntu easily enough.  I migrated my notebook from Kubuntu to normal Ubuntu a couple of years ago.  took a bit of downloading, worked fine.21:22
mrwesPhotoJim, work to mount an iso? heh?21:22
matreya6BePhantom, consult the Release notes first please, it has Intel problems written all over it21:22
KilleroidBePhantom: yeah, there are a couple of problems21:22
CorpRattXyeah i think so on the way more21:22
alinonaH oKaY LoL21:22
SoftCoderevolution works with hotmail without using hotway21:22
PhotoJimmrwes: yeah, you have to use that loopback trick.  I find it unintuitive.21:22
BePhantomoh, Killeroid i hope it'll get fixed21:22
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proqmagcius: I wonder how you would do that from CLI21:22
PassePartouTCorpRattX but this would be some questions for #joomla or you could try #silverstripe or #drupal (basically like joomla without steroids, both came from mambo)21:22
mrwesPhotoJim, or just use gisomount from the repos21:22
haggisbasherukIntel problem needs fixed ASAP21:22
CorpRattXwhich was why i was wondering how come more people dont use them21:22
tasHello21:22
joseph14kmwhite it doesn't give me anything21:22
PhotoJimmrwes: that's a new one to me.  I will check it out.21:22
magciusproq, I don't know, but it queries almost every mirror known to man and selects the one with the least ping time.21:23
mrwes!gisomount21:23
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about gisomount21:23
mrwesblah21:23
KilleroidBePhantom:  acouple of people have found fixes. search the forums21:23
CorpRattXwell he can give me an overview without being off topic21:23
matreya6haggisbasheruk, I agree, even though it does not really impact my nVidia-based GPU's21:23
tasI'd like to know how to uninstall KDE and all its apps, could anyone help?21:23
magciusproq, 291 of them to be exact.21:23
BobCFCmagcius, cool21:23
sebsebseb!puregnome |  tas21:23
alinoni think intel integrated cards should be banned from laptops, let ati/nvidia handle that21:23
ubottutas: If you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 ; sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop »21:23
SoftCoderAnyone wanting to use their hotmail account in jaunty change your hotmail account to point to the servers shown here: http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/01/confirmed-pop3-rolling-out-on-windows-live-hotmail.ars21:23
sebsebsebtas: why you want to get rid of KDE by the way?21:23
austin_Hey where should i go to manage/add widgets21:23
SoftCoderno longer require hotway21:23
mrwestas: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop21:23
tasCause I'm using Gnome+AWN, and KDE is only sitting there O:21:23
tasThank you21:23
BePhantomKilleroid, thanks21:24
sebsebsebaustin_: yes you can get some add ons for Gnome/Ubuntu,  but it's not done like Vista21:24
joseph14 kmwhite http://www.mibbit.com/pb/Etlz3X21:24
Sarthor_Hi, i have STC Wireless modem (huawei E960 HSDPA Wireless GATEWAY), Working good, but i have Dell 1525 Inspiron Laptop, there is one port for Mobile sim/ship under laptop battry, Can i use that sim in my mobile, is that for 3G or mobile internet?? if Yes. How?21:24
kalexanderif i "cancel" my upgrade to 9.04 that's in progress.. can i resume it at a later time?21:24
austin_k thanks21:24
sebsebsebkalexander: no21:24
matreya6alinon, I don't agree on that. Intel GPU's are generally very efficient when it comes to power use. I wouldn't want to have an nVidia/ ATI card in my servers. Too much power consumption.21:24
manpoolesilly question installing google earth a terminal window has the user afreement and ok at the bottom how do i accept the user agreement enter does not work esc donest what do i type?21:24
kmwhitejoseph14: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.old21:24
kmwhitejoseph14: restartx21:24
mrweskalexander, dont do that!21:24
progre55damn, aparently I dont have a blank CD.. please somebody tell me how to mount the jaunty image and upgrade it? :)21:24
sebsebsebaustin_: in fact I have a link for you21:24
kalexanderhaha ok.. thanks guys21:24
tasProgre, do you have 8.10?21:25
mrwesprogre55, is it the alternate install cd?21:25
sebsebsebaustin_: and by the way if you want  your Ubuntu log in screen to look better,  I hightly recommend the blubuntu gdm screen21:25
tasAs in intrepid?21:25
mrwesprogre55, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading  -- look towards the bottom of the page21:25
matreya6progre55, don't you have an USB key lying around? You could try installing from that21:25
progre55mrwes, dont know, just downloaded it :)21:25
alinonmatreya6: actually nvidia has been working on power consumption for some time now along with developing a cpu/gpu combo chip to cut down on power even more21:25
xerxesHow do i do partition encryption with jaunty?21:25
progre55mrwes, thanks, I'll have a look21:25
mrwesprogre55, well does the file name say alternate?21:25
tasIf you have 8.10/Intrepid, you only need to use the update manager21:25
tasIt'll update straight to Jaunty for you21:25
progre55mrwes, ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso  that's the name of the file21:26
matreya6alinon, A bit of competition is healthy for the market. Usually Intel does deliver good quality chips.21:26
joseph14http://www.mibbit.com/pb/lcNRQp   kmwhite21:26
mrwesprogre55, you can not upgrade from that, you need the alternate install iso21:26
Lyth1Is there a way to convert a Ubuntu install to Ubuntu Studio?21:26
joseph14nothing21:26
mishohow to upgrade jaunty rc to full version21:26
fg3trying to install u904 onto vmware ws6.5.2 -- error during install trying to resume from /dev/disk/by-uuid/....21:26
proqtas: how stable would you say that is, on a scale of 1 to 10?  10 being works every single time21:26
mrwesmisho, just run the update manager21:26
tlyngCan anyone here help me with an xorg/intel gma issue? The performance since I've upgraded dropped dramatically. Earlier compiz atleast worked with good performance, after the update it's terrible slow. When trying to speed up things by enabling UXA everything freeze. Is it possible to have the same graphics performance as 8.10 without enabling UXA? (I'm on a macbook with i945 chipset).21:26
mrwesmisho, you probably have it already anyhow21:26
kmwhitejoseph14: I was not clear, sorry. restartx is not a command, it was a directive. Log out and back in to restart X1121:27
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progre55mrwes, oh I see.. I'll try to look for the alternate iso then )21:27
alinoni guess it doesn't help when i seen 5+ requests for intel chip help in the last 20 minutes haha21:27
mishomrwes: j did but it isnt there21:27
fg3then says no resume image, doing a normal boot -- then takes me to a console prompt   (using desktop version)21:27
progre55mrwes, thanks21:27
tommi69to update ubuntu 9.04 beta to ubuntu 9.04 i just need to give 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and let it run right?21:27
matreya6Ah, my distupgrade is almost ready to install...Last packages and counting down to reboot into a lovely new Ubuntu... :-)21:27
joseph14kmwhite but wait21:27
mrwesprogre55, sure... and it'll be tons faster than waiting on the servers if you get it via torrent21:27
joseph14when i type "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.old"21:28
joseph14then coming this words21:28
joseph14mv: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory21:28
joseph14but i swear there is xorg.conf21:28
[t0rc]is there a command to only download the files for 9.04 and then start the install later?21:28
progre55mrwes, I got the alternate iso now :) thanks man21:29
mrwesjoseph14, use cp not mv21:29
IRWolfie-get the alternative iso maybe [t0rc]?21:29
[4-tea-2][t0rc]: aptitude has a --download-only option, I think. Check the man page.21:29
mrwesprogre55, sure -- you'll do it that way from now on :)21:29
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IRWolfie-and then upgrade from it21:29
IRWolfie-later21:29
matreya6progre55, Wow, do you have a really fast connection or waht? ;21:29
TheFunkbombHey, I upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 RC and then got the latest updates today.  In update manager, it shows brasero cd/dvd burning but it's grayed out.21:29
TheFunkbombAnyhelp?21:29
joseph14cp: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory21:29
joseph14mrwes21:30
progre55matreya6, yeah, kinda fast, downloaded it in 90 seconds :) 100Mbit21:30
chelz[t0rc]: if you grab the alternate cd off of a torrent or something, you can mount it or burn it then use it and it'll ask if you want to upgrade21:30
sebsebsebTheFunkbomb: YES21:30
CaneToadhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/ReleaseAnnouncement is non-responsive .... but why would the upgrader be using that anyway, because my sources.list points to a mirror?21:30
joseph14mrwes cp: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory21:30
sebsebsebTheFunkbomb: didn't want caps, anyway yeah21:30
alinongrrr my upgrade download is trying to stall out for the 3rd time21:30
mrwesmatreya6, you can download the torrent iso's usually within a few mintues21:30
kmwhitejoseph14: , mrwes : he moved the file to /etc/X11/xorg.old21:30
TheFunkbombsebsebseb, cool.21:30
sebsebsebTheFunkbomb: I guess you told it not to install basero  and so it' still there, but greyed out21:30
whatteyis the alternate installation similar to the server installation?21:30
mrweskmwhite, ohh21:30
mrwesheh21:30
BUGabundohumm so here we are! those from +1 please wave back, so I can say HI21:30
acfrazierI take it this channel is now QQ about the servers are straining due to failed downloads21:30
[t0rc]chelz, ahh, gracias21:30
TheFunkbombsebsebseb, I did not but my CD/DVD burner is on the fritz21:30
matreya6* drools on high speed of progre55 (on 1.5 Mbit down here, sniff...)21:30
mrwesBUGabundo, you gnome-do physco!21:31
alinonacfrazier: not as bad as one would think21:31
kelliubuntu 9.04 worth the up date21:31
ubuntu__±Ф¬¬¬21:31
mrwesBUGabundo, you in the shark tank aye?21:31
TheFunkbomboooh I also have another burning software installed.  would that do it?21:31
alinonææwhat?!ææ21:31
acfrazierWell I thought I could get around that by downloading the alternate CD21:31
acfrazierguess not21:31
sebsebsebTheFunkbomb:   oh your going to clean install? or?21:31
acfrazierturns out I have to download another 150 MB21:31
joseph14kmwhite is that ok then >21:31
joseph14??21:31
chelz[t0rc]: it only includes a section of the stuff you have installed probably though. so i'd wait a few days for the upgrade servers to calm down then try to do your upgrade21:31
mrwesBUGabundo, did you get any updates today?21:31
matreya6TheFunkbomb, well XBurn or K3B work fine for me, so that shouldn't be a problem21:31
greencookieIs there a way for me to save my workspace to make gnome restore windows on log in?21:31
progre55matreya6, hehe :) where do you come from? )21:31
NalfAre there any issues with the repos right now?21:31
nightrid3rwhattey: yes21:32
NalfI can't get any updates..21:32
kmwhitejoseph14: yeah. it's just saying the file you are trying to copy is not there; replace it with the xorg.old path21:32
TheFunkbombsebsebseb, no, this was an upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 RC and then 9.04 released21:32
matreya6progre55, the Netherlands21:32
Nalfapt-get install wont work either.21:32
tommi69Nalf: i can (italian mirror)21:32
BUGabundomrwes: still checking! servers are slow21:32
sebsebsebNalf: yep21:32
Atom-AAOGrrh Intel Graphics needs fixed as soon as possible21:32
LjLNalf: slowness due to being release day?21:32
kmwhitewailt.21:32
progre55matreya6, hmm.. I c21:32
sebsebsebNalf: I guess the load is to much for the repos, so problems21:32
alinonmake that 6 intel problems in the last 20min21:32
progre55matreya6, okay, I'm gone to upgrade now )21:32
mrwesmatreya6, this burns prefect iso's too; alias burndvd='growisofs -dvd-compat -overburn -Z /dev/dvd=dvd.iso'21:32
DaveWManybody know how i can switch between window managers on the fly with the desktop up and running ?21:32
matreya6progre55, have fun :-)21:32
kmwhitejoseph14: I don't think you have an xorg.conf from your paste21:32
joseph14so do i have to restart the ubuntu ?21:32
TheFunkbombPeople really need to stop naming their programs as Gnome****21:32
HBXhow do i upgrade from the alternate cd on a netbook21:32
xerxesWhat is the difference between gnome and XFCE im unsure between ubuntu and xubuntu...21:32
sebsebsebDaveWM: don't think you can easilly, or at all21:32
tommi69DaveWM: i don't think it's possible21:32
DaveWMhrm21:33
mrwes!XFCE21:33
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels21:33
tommi69DaveWM: you should at least need to restart X21:33
mrwesBUGabundo, I didn't have any21:33
wrice_In re: Jaunty + Intel chipsets - read the release notes : )21:33
resnojust got the update... its looking pretty nice...21:33
BUGabundomrwes: at least FF you should have21:33
vartHBX: create a USB using this iso21:33
sebsebsebDaveWM: you could run your other window manager in a vm though, if your computer can handle it,  I know maybe not the best thing for what you want to do, but still a good suggestion I think21:33
HBXah ok21:33
LadyBugxerxes: From practical standpoint Gnome is easier for the beginner. XFCE requires a lot of tweaking.21:33
sebsebsebDaveWM: vm as in virtual machine to be clear21:33
DaveWMi don't think that would be ideal21:33
joseph14kmwhite do i have to log out ?? ??  ?21:33
mrwesBUGabundo, hrmm... I ran the update manager and nuttin'21:33
Atom-AAOwrice_> In re: Jaunty + Intel chipsets - read the release notes : )  <<< not a good excuse21:33
oomagooliesscreen -list21:33
DaveWMyea, i've done alot of playing with vm's21:33
resnonice job guys!21:34
xerxesthanx LadyBug21:34
Oprtzi am downloading 9.04 now, its 70% done21:34
DaveWMi'm looking to switch between metacity and maximus21:34
manpooleusing ati radeon default drivers in jaunty gives me flckering in google earth even without compiz anyone no a remedy?21:34
henryrhodesiiiyou can manage upgrades on a net book by using the usb startup disk creator  and isos  of the systems21:34
ubuntu__nice sheet21:34
ubuntu__opps21:34
ubuntu__nice job21:34
ubuntu__i mean21:34
emlI need some help with my sound card drivers, I can't get any sound although it recognizes my sound card (SoundBlaster Audigy 4).21:34
kmwhitejoseph14: no idea, sorry.21:34
mrwesBUGabundo, nope...nutitn' just ran it again21:34
sebsebsebDaveWM: yeah I am going virtual machine crazy, when I  put on 9.04  final on the weekend or next week.   I am currently running a upgraded 8.10 to  alpha6, to beta, to rc, install which has some issues as a result21:34
matreya6TheFunkbomb, I'm all for a universal format that runs on any Window Manager, but it's the difference between design guidelines between for instance Gnome and KDE that throw a spanner into the works...21:34
dtcheneml: run the following command: ubuntu-bug alsa-base21:35
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joshjtl_hi,  how do i find out what version of xserver-xorg-video-intel i have installed?21:35
BobCFCnight peeps21:35
LadyBugDaveWM: I just did that. Getting rid of maximus is not easy.21:35
dtcheneml: use that command to file a bug, then tell me the bug #21:35
BUGabundomrwes: do you have Security pocket enabled?21:35
DaveWMkewl21:35
BUGabundomrwes: apt-cache policy firefox21:35
gangsterliciousstop downloading ISOs so i can update!21:35
BUGabundomrwes: $ apt-cache policy firefox | pastebinit21:35
gangsterliciouscan't even install iscsi21:35
DaveWMyeah,  seems like if you could switch between maximus and metacity quickly,  it'd be ideal for a mobile device21:35
BUGabundogangsterlicious: ehehehh21:35
matreya6*Yay, only one minute to go...21:35
alinonwelp, i'm upgrading now, i should go21:35
alinontc all21:35
Lysi_joseph log out and in again, thats how you start X21:35
ramblexHow do I install the loop module? When i try sudo modprobe loop, I get FATAL: Module loop not found. I'm using 9.04 and this worked in 8.1021:35
LordFDiskAnyone know that if I press the Update Button in the Update Manager if it will convert to Ext4 format or is that only on a fresh install?21:35
matreya6alinon, have fun :-)21:35
DaveWMthrow a close and minimize button on your taskbar21:35
DaveWMheh21:36
emldtchen: Mmkay just a sec, I need to register21:36
tommi69after the packages from beta to final are downloaded how much does it take to install?21:36
Killeroidgangsterlicious: find a local mirror21:36
ndrameBUGabundo: latino?21:36
mrwesBUGabundo, hrmm...http://pastebin.com/f7d9496021:36
BUGabundondrame: but of course...the best kind21:36
_opex_this definition is wrong, right? it blocks traffic from 213. .. 13, not from 192. .. 1321:36
_opex_# iptables -A INPUT -s 213.10.10.13 -j DROP21:36
_opex_This rule blocks any incoming traffic from 192.168.1.13.21:36
vartLordFDisk : no automatic upgrade of ext3 to ext421:36
matreya6LordFDisk, now it won't convert automatically to ext4-format as that fs is too unstable for production use.21:36
KilleroidLordFDisk: you have to mnaually migrate to ext4. or you can select ext4 on a fresh install21:36
BUGabundomrwes: you already have it! you got it and didn't even noticed21:37
ndrameBUGabundo: soy chileno, y tu?21:37
matreya6LordFDisk, now => no21:37
sebsebsebmatreya6: to unstable for production use, nonsense I think21:37
ikonia_opex_: that's "source" input - and can be discused in #iptables or #netfilter21:37
mrwesBUGabundo, hah...duh! OK -- thanks21:37
fincanhow can I add "libata.ignore_hpa=0" to the kernel command line?21:37
sebsebsebmatreya6: a few issues still  by the sounds of things, but should be good enough for most people21:37
ubuntu__pa blo ¡¡¡21:37
wiijiiEvening guys n gals. Quick question. I've just installed Xubuntu-desktop on a normal Ubuntu install. But now I have no menus. Any way to convert Gnome menu -> XFCE menu?21:37
BUGabundondrame: that's a bit offtopic, but Portuguese21:37
ubuntu__saludos21:37
BUGabundo !ot21:37
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!21:37
LordFDiskKewl thanks Guys you all Rock !!! =)21:37
ikoniafincan: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and appent it to the kernel line21:37
Killeroidfincan: check your menu.lst   ( /boot/grub/menu.lst)21:37
HBXwhats the utility to burn the iso to usb21:37
matrixblueCan anyone send me the Jaunty torrent? The site is being held hostage21:37
LadyBugI formatted my / with ext4 just now. We'll see if this is a disaster or not.21:37
ikoniamatrixblue: the torrents are all over the place - just be patient21:38
chelzmatrixblue: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/21:38
tommi69LadyBug: works pretty well (jaunty beta)21:38
matreya6sebsebseb, well I won't use a fs if there is a enduring rumor that some of my files will be gone after a reboot X-(21:38
fincanikonia: I have to add this line before boot with livecd21:38
Nalfhttp://pastebin.com/m32c6cea2 <-- Any ideas?21:38
CaneToadhow do I tell update-manager to not use updates.ubuntu.com?  There's not a single file in /etc that mentions updates.ubuntu.com and yet update-manager is trying to use it anyway.21:38
sebsebsebmatreya6: I think that bug has been fixed21:38
quintenanyone else noticing far declined flash performance in jaunty?21:38
ikoniafincan: I think the key equence is F6 to modify boot options21:38
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quintenusing intel drivers21:38
sebsebsebmatreya6: also that was really a fault in how Gnome and KDE saved stuff21:38
absencehow can i upgrade to 9.04 and have the removed packages purged instead of just removed?21:38
imbezolanyone know why they went with so many installation disks? the big difference is just what meta packages are installed is it not? now we have dvd, desktop, alternate, server, netbook, etc... it could all be one disk with a choice at the start!21:38
ubuntu__ufff21:38
BUGabundook this is too noisy21:38
CaneToadargh, I mean archive.ubuntu.com21:38
fincanikonia:21:38
LjLMadBoogies: don't change your nickname while connected to mibbit please. part and rejoin21:39
joseph14kmwhite i've restart the computer21:39
BUGabundoI just came to say hi! ping me if you need me!21:39
tommi69absence: check the manpage but i think that adding -purge would do it (check - the - manpage)21:39
ndrameBUGabundo: i got it, men, can u helpme? got troubles with phpmyadmin, just doesnt work... can u help me?21:39
MyWayhi all21:39
fincanikonia: well could u check this link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dmraid/+bug/219393 plz?21:39
ubuntu__you are so smart for my level also ---21:39
joseph14it's not worked :(21:39
xgnxgn grüßt haldenwang21:39
absencetommi69: the manpage of what? the gui tool?21:39
LjL!de | xgn21:39
ubottuxgn: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.21:39
HBXwhat do i use to burn iso to usb21:39
vartHBX: try unetbootin21:39
chazcoAnyone use "sudo tasksel install lamp" on 9.04? Does it work correctly now?21:39
matrixbluethanks chelz this is the official release right?21:39
chelzNalf: dpkg-reconfigure compiz21:39
ubuntu__cant get a a single thing21:39
matreya6sebsebseb, I'll monitor the reactions for a while until it matures enough and after that, well, I might upgrade if the advantages outweigh the disadvantages for me.21:39
emldtchen: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/36568421:39
sebsebsebmatrixblue: 9.04 is offical as of today21:39
ndrameBUGabundo: aps! my english is bad, better is my portugues... irmao...21:39
kmwhitejoseph14: have you read the release notes?21:39
tommi69absence: yes either the GUI tool or apt-get21:39
chelzmatrixblue: that's the official tracker, notice the "ubuntu.com" also look at the topic :P21:39
greencookieAnyone else getting stuttering sound after Jaunty clean install on HP laptop?21:39
joseph14kmwhite no21:39
MyWayi can't access the ftp of my web site, what can it be? i'm using ufw, does it closes outgoing ports?21:39
sebsebsebmatreya6: what you on now?21:39
DASPRiDwho the ehck translated "channels" to "kanäle" >_>21:40
tommi69absence: i've actually used -purge only with apt-get21:40
ikoniafincan: looks a sensible thing to try21:40
_opex_ikonia 10x :)21:40
joseph14why ?21:40
matreya6sebsebseb, ext321:40
firstimeubunterhello, first time on ubuntu,, i'm on the live cd...it doesnt have flash, and cant set my display settings :(21:40
sebsebsebmatreya6: on 9.04?21:40
matrixbluelol thanks again chelz21:40
nightrid3rDASPRiD: a german21:40
tommi69rebooting, see you soon21:40
fincanhow can I add "libata.ignore_hpa=0" to the kernel command line before boot with livecd?21:40
chelzmatrixblue: gl remember to seed!21:40
racecar56im ext3 on 9.04 too21:40
racecar56because i upgraded from intrepid21:40
sona1hi there, just installed jaunty on my laptop and now my resolution is 800x600 (it should be 1024x768) - when I check the display settings is says 'monitor: unknown' - any ideas?21:40
DASPRiDnightrid3r, yeah but thats.... kinda not right :)21:40
ikoniafincan: as I said, I think the squence is F6 on the boot screen and you just append the line21:40
DASPRiDor im just not used to that21:40
tyrion_Hello, I am trying to do a "command line install" of jaunty (with mini.iso on usb) on my eeebox, but it fails on Selecting and Installing Software21:40
kmwhitejoseph14: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904#Performance%20regressions%20on%20Intel%20graphics%20cards21:40
ikoniafincan: it says press F$something for boot options21:40
ikoniafincan: I think it's F621:41
sebsebsebracecar56: yeah I am on  Ext3 on 9.04 to, well kind of, because I ugpraded  8.10 to alpha6, to beta, to rc,  and have some issues still21:41
matreya6sebsebseb, not yet, the upgrade manager estimates around 30 minutes to go for final installation. All files have been downloaded though.21:41
ramblexhow can i run a .iso from the hdd?21:41
tyrion_I've tried to skip the step and install grub, but it fails this step too21:41
emldtchen: If you need additional info just ask. I'm totally new to bug reporting.21:41
sebsebsebracecar56: I am looking forard to clean installing and doing Ext4 this weekend or next week21:41
absencetommi69: the gui tool doesn't have a purge option :/ i know apt does, but apt doesn't find any packages, so i guess sources has to be sorted out manually, and then there's the upgrade tool not being run, and probably other things i don't know about, so i'd prefer to do it the "proper" way (just without config file leftovers)21:41
fincanikonia: well f6 is ok and then I add "break=top"21:41
ubuntu__sonal, ummmmmm , maybe you should bay a new one=?21:41
tyrion_Any suggestion?21:41
racecar56sebsebseb, k21:41
ikoniafincan: just add the option you want, it sounds easy, and it really is21:41
chazcoHmm... so are there issues with ext4? I've got / formatted as it (but not /home or the data partitions)21:41
DlGuigaHello, i bought a logitech g15 keyboard and i am trying to install g15tools (www.g15tools.com), i have already installed libg15 and libg15 render, both required by g15daemon, but when i try to install g15daemon, on the 'make' part, i keep getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156751 , what am i doing wrong?21:41
racecar56sebsebseb, ill only reinstall if i have a servious problem21:41
racecar56sebsebseb, *serious21:42
NalfIs apache installed by default?21:42
wiijiiAny way to convert Gnome -> XFCE menus?21:42
fincanikonia: well where should I add the option?21:42
ikoniafincan: when you press F6721:42
ikoniafincan: when you press F621:42
joseph14kmwhite but the xorg.conf is gone now21:42
fincanikonia: then?21:42
ikoniafincan: then boot21:42
archlichanyone see this error when installing evolution? http://paste.ubuntu.com/156753/21:42
racecar56how long has ext4 been around?21:42
joseph14how do i recover it ??21:42
sebsebsebracecar56: I could use the install I have now for even longer, but I  want the full 9.04 experience with Ext4 :)21:42
ikoniaracecar56: check wikipedia for history21:42
ubuntu__y7es tjhere ia a  way wiijii21:42
dtcheneml: you should unmute 'Surround', 'Center', 'Side', 'LFE'21:42
chelzNalf: no21:42
ubuntu__çlet me do it21:43
tyrion_should I try to install lilo instead? (I cannot understand why It's asking me to select and install software, I just want a minimal system ...)21:43
mineraleHi, I have a Vaio P (with an Intel GMA 500 graphis driver), I hear there are no drivers past kernel version 2.6.24 but dell ships a ultraportable with Ubuntu 8.04.1 Netbook Remix which supports the driver, can someone help find it ?21:43
kmwhitejoseph14: sudo X -configure21:43
wiijiiubuntu__ suggestions?21:43
to3000why do i get a terinalwindow wher a press ctrl+alt+f121:43
racecar56sebsebseb, i dont really care... although next time i fresh install i will use ext421:43
sebsebsebtyrion_: better to be using Grub if your using Ubuntu21:43
smilebootcould somone send me a copy of the 9.04 desktop torrent?21:43
chelzminerale: 9.04 should work fine21:43
kmwhitejoseph14: sudo mv /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf21:43
fincanikonia: normally I use this way => 1. break=top (kernel startup line)21:43
fincan2. echo options libata ignore_hpa=0 > /etc/modprobe.d/libata-options21:43
sebsebsebtyrion_: hardly anyone that uses  Ubuntu uses lilo21:43
ikoniasmileboot: you where told the situation - please stop asking21:43
chelzsmileboot: look at the last url in the topic21:43
kmwhitesudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf21:43
kmwhitejoseph14: ^^21:43
kmwhitejoseph14: follow instructions on the release notes I linked you to.21:43
MyWayhow can i check if my traffic is enabled outgoing on a specified port?21:43
ikoniafincan: put it all on one line21:44
tyrion_sebastien, yes I'am using ubuntu, but the installation stops on "selecting and installing software"21:44
wrice_to3000: That's a virtual terminal. There are more at ctl+alt+f2, ctl+alt+f3, etc.21:44
kmwhitejoseph14: hope it works for you. I have nvidia and ati cards. There's only so much I can do. Sorry. :\21:44
smilebootahh ok  just joinedd aint kept asking :/21:44
racecar56woah 2006? why didn't ubuntu 6.10 even had it?21:44
benh611hello I need help21:44
sebsebsebtyrion_: how are you trying to install?21:44
mineralechelz: what kernel does 9.04 run? From what I've read so far the Intel GMA 500 has no drivers past 2.6.24 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poulsbo_(chipset) )21:44
fincanikonia: no need "break=top"?21:44
Dougshellwhen i do partial upgrade when i select start upgrade, my upgrade closes?21:44
Dougshellany clue as to why21:44
sebsebsebbenh611: with?21:44
sona1does the xorg.conf still make a difference? it's empty these days21:44
tyrion_sebastien, I'm doing a command line install of jaunty with a mini.iso (from usb) on my eeebox21:44
SeViLLais anyone running 9.04 currentyly21:44
uni4dfxsona1: yes21:44
ubuntu_brertter now21:44
to3000wricw_: how do i get back to normal21:44
sebsebsebSeViLLa: yeah loads of people21:44
ikoniafincan: I think you do need it according to that bug report, however there i a line that says you also just need ata_ignore_hpa=0 - so I would try that first21:44
chazcosona1 - I use nVidia and the xorg.conf is still used quite a lot21:45
vartminerale:2.6.2821:45
joseph14 kmwhite only one thing21:45
whatteycan grub boot from ext4 in 9.04 ?21:45
benh611well I am new to ubuntu and I just installed 8.10 for the first time and I was told that it was going to auto detect my XP so I could have it dual boot21:45
sebsebsebtyrion_: on your EEPC?   there's a Ubuntu 9.04  netbook remix.  they are promoting that on their homepage to now21:45
SeViLLasebsebseb: so.... any comments about it21:45
dtcheneml: any luck?21:45
joseph14kmwhite look at this http://www.mibbit.com/pb/jxGkUN21:45
tyrion_sebastien, sorry, I mean my eeebox21:45
emldtchen: Oh well, there were more channels that needed to be unmuted. I'm so stupid... I always assume that those that are needed will be unmuted from beginning.21:45
racecar56tyrion_, warning: someone said ubuntu netbook was slow21:45
wrice_to3000: I believe it's ctl+alt+f5? f6? f7?21:45
sebsebsebSeViLLa: I am not running  the full proper 9.04 yet, because  I  upgraded 8.10 early etc21:45
vartwhattey: yes21:45
benh611well after I installed it it doesn't show windows in the options when I go to select the OS21:45
whatteythanks:)21:45
to3000thanks21:46
sona1my xorg.conf is basically empty (fresh build) so is that where i need to start to get my resolution back up to 1024x768?21:46
benh611it only gives me 3 ubuntu options21:46
vart!grub > whattey21:46
ubottuwhattey, please see my private message21:46
dtcheneml: is one of them 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack'?21:46
kmwhitejoseph14: you need to stop X before running these commands. Are you on the machine that cannot get accelerated graphics?21:46
emldtchen: So yes it's fixed. Although I think these channels should be unmuted during install/first run though?21:46
aceroHola21:46
emldtchen: Exactly21:46
NalfIs apache installed with ubuntu by default?21:46
sebsebseb!es |  acero21:46
ubottuacero: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.21:46
chelzminerale: http://portablemonkey.com/article/vaio-p-with-ubuntu-810/ - this post is for the last version of ubuntu and it works fine so i'd safely assume that 9.04 will also be fine21:46
chazcoNalf - The desktop edition? Nope21:46
unopNalf, not on the desktop version21:46
dtcheneml: the problem is that we can't unmute that one by default. 70% of users with that control need it to be *muted*21:46
agadashisebsebseb, my Network connection got cut as part of the upgrade, continuing the chat from another box21:46
sebsebsebNalf: no21:46
tyrion_sebastien, I tried to skip the steps that fails, but it fails installing grub too21:46
aceroThx ubottu21:46
sebsebseb!lamp > Nalf21:46
ubottuNalf, please see my private message21:46
chelzminerale: you could torrent the livecd and test at least :)21:46
joseph14kmwhite yes21:46
NalfThanks, seb.21:46
whattey!lamp > whattey21:46
ubottuwhattey, please see my private message21:46
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benh611I am needing to know if my xp is now screwed and if ubuntu possibly formatted my drive21:47
matrey6sebsebseb, my Network connection got cut as part of the upgrade, continuing the chat from another box21:47
sebsebsebbenh611: heh yeah maybe21:47
chelzbenh611: say in detail what you did21:47
tyrion_sebastien, it says it cannot install grub on "/target/" or something21:47
dtcheneml: if you'd like to bash someone, go beat on Creative21:47
sebsebsebbenh611: you did a guided install and told Ubuntu to install on your whole hard disk?21:47
mrwesbenh611, did you tell the install to use the 'entire' drive ?21:47
sebsebseb!Grub > tyrion_21:47
ubottutyrion_, please see my private message21:47
chelzbenh611: how many physical hard drives do you have?21:47
emldtchen: No worries. May I suggest a troubleshoot button where these types of problems could be suggested?21:47
[t0rc]benh611, sudo fdisk -l in shell21:47
uni4dfx!si21:48
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about si21:48
virkhi everyone21:48
dtcheneml: we'll be discussing that at UDS21:48
benh611I know I didn't set it up manually I just had it go automatically to set it up21:48
Lysi_to3000: to exit the console ctrl-+alt+f721:48
wit3tyg3rhow many of you have downloaded Jaunty already?21:48
kelliwhat is the best way you go on line with out other sites knowing?21:48
dtcheneml: it is an intractable problem, however.21:48
emldtchen: Cool :)21:48
LjL!ot | wit3tyg3r21:48
ubottuwit3tyg3r: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!21:48
SoftCoderby the way one last thing about hotmail in evolution... the smtp server must be changes to use TLS (as SSL seems to have issues)21:48
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sebsebseb!ot | wit3tyg3r21:48
archlichkelli, noscript21:48
kc8pxyis it just me,   is the reason i can't get updates for 8.04(testing my transparent approx setup) because 9.04 released?21:48
chelzbenh611: or in an ubuntu licevd System -> Administration -> Partition Editor   and look for an NTFS partition21:48
emldtchen: Sorry, I don't know what intractable means. :-p21:48
sebsebsebwit3tyg3r: try  asking that in  #ubuntu-release-party21:48
chelzkc8pxy: if the servers are timing out, then yes that's likely21:49
virkI'd like to see gsoap 2.7.13 in the repo, and currently 2.7.9 is in there21:49
nightrid3rkc8pxy: probably the mirrors are getting hammerd atm21:49
NalfAnd wow.. i hate the slashdot effet.21:49
joseph14kmwhite21:49
NalfEffect, too.21:49
SoftCoderP.S. Uby 9 is great! It should do some decent damage in the market this year.. looks very nice and runs well21:49
virkIs there any way I can add it myself?21:49
tyrion_sebastien, yes, but the problem is: why it's failing on the step "selecting and installing software"? .... should I skip the boot loader step too, and terminate the installation?21:49
sona1is there any way to generate my xorg.conf to what it should be?21:49
NalfDoes anyone know about support for usb headsets in 9.04?21:49
DlGuigaHello, i bought a logitech g15 keyboard and i am trying to install g15tools (www.g15tools.com), i have already installed libg15 and libg15 render, both required by g15daemon, but when i try to install g15daemon, on the 'make' part, i keep getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156751 , what am i doing wrong?21:49
sebsebsebSoftCoder: yeah I hope it does :)21:49
benh611I don't see an option for partition editor21:49
virkor shoudl I post a question somewhere on launchpad?21:50
racecar56#launchpad21:50
sebsebsebNalf: not sure if the bot is useful for that, but21:50
sebsebseb!usb >  Nalf21:50
ubottuNalf, please see my private message21:50
zippyfishupgrading is sslow :)21:50
kc8pxynightrid3r:  kk..   i have a friend beside me, using what is normally a blazing mirror, 150k/s at this location,  crawling @ 35-40k/s :)21:50
zippyfishvia packager manger21:50
sebsebsebzippyfish: yep, because your doing it on release day, when thousands of other people are also doing it21:50
NalfgNope, not useful.:P21:50
NalfThanks, though.21:50
wiijiiCould someone please tell me how to convert gnome menus to XCE?21:50
wiijiiI've just installed xubuntu-desktop21:50
kmwhitejoseph14: ?21:50
ikoniawiijii: you can't21:50
mrwessona1, you can boot into rescue mode and choose xfix21:50
ikoniawiijii: you have to manually make your menu's21:50
kmwhitejoseph14: I didn't see your response to my q21:50
[t0rc]is there a channel for LiveUSB of Ubuntu?21:50
wiijiidamn21:51
wiijiireally?21:51
ikoniawiijii: yes21:51
acr0nymhow can I open users & groups with terminal21:51
chelzwiijii: convert what? you can install them side by side, but preferences for one don't transition over21:51
wiijiiThat will take forever21:51
wiijiiJust the app menus21:51
sebsebsebtyrion_: not sure21:51
wiijiiIsn't there some python app for it?21:51
wiijiimmaker21:51
acr0nymsomething like: sudo users & groups :P21:51
sebsebseb!tab  |  tryion21:51
emldtchen: Thanks for the help, I shall now continue to explore & get used to gnome.21:51
ubottutryion: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.21:51
wiijiior something21:51
acr0nymnot visudo21:51
FloodBot2wiijii: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.21:51
sebsebseb!who |  tryion21:51
ubottutryion: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)21:51
NalfCan you upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?21:51
_matreya6wiijii, and did you like it?21:51
HBXafter i make the bootable usb with the alternate cd what do i do?21:51
unopacr0nym,  gksudo users-admin  # i think21:51
ikoniaNalf: yes21:51
chelzDlGuiga: following  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LogitechG15 ?21:51
wiijii_matreya6 sorry?21:51
sebsebsebtyrion_:   heh  I didn't use tab for those two bot commands see above21:51
nightrid3rkc8pxy: on day's like today connects on the mirrors are like lemmings jumping off a cliff21:51
acr0nymunop thanks21:51
joseph14kmwhite how do i restore xorg.conf plaese21:52
NalfWell.. I can't even install lamp right now.. pfft at slashdot effect.:| t.t21:52
unopacr0nym, a way to find out is to launch the app and look at the process table ...21:52
ikoniajoseph14: back it up before modifying it21:52
kmwhitejoseph14: I just told you.21:52
Nalfnightrid3r: I agree:P21:52
zippyfishWHHOO  HOO !!!!UNBUNTU!!!21:52
ikoniazippyfish: please don't21:52
chelzNalf: grab the ubuntu server dvd torrent21:52
Beldingheh21:52
ikoniazippyfish: this is for support discussion onlly21:52
joseph14but it's not working21:52
_matreya6wiijii, the transition to Xubuntu, do you like it? Xubuntu is quite fast, but still not fast enough for my old Pentium 3 Lappy21:52
acr0nymyep unop it worked fine :)21:52
chelzNalf: you'll max out your connection and have all you need21:52
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joseph14kmwhite but it's not working21:52
Nalfchelz: Thanks.21:53
sebsebsebzippyfish: do that in #ubuntu-release-party or something21:53
wiijii_matreya6 well I haven't actually changed to xubuntu - just the xubuntu-desktop. I'm not sure how different it is in terms of the system, if at all21:53
HBXhey how do i upgrade with the alternate cd on usb21:53
JoesephCan I update from Intrepid to Jaunty with a live desktop cd? I know you can with an alternate text installer cd, but it will be more convenient if I can just get the live cd.21:53
vartwiijii - it is all the difference you have21:53
_matreya6wiijii, it's more of a choice in programs really, XFCE runs with the Gnome libraries21:53
wiijii_matreya6 I do prefer XFCE overall though. I used to use Archlinux with XFCE. And it's on my laptop so I wanted something a little lighter. Did setup Openbox once upon a time, that was my favourite wm21:53
kmwhitejoseph14: It's not working because you are currently IN xorg. You need to log out, ctrl+alt+F1, login, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, then run the commands21:53
chelzHBX: do you have the alternate iso or somehow installed the alternate to a usb drive?21:53
tyrion_sebastien, I didn't understand, I always used tab to let you see my messages21:53
HBXyea21:53
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slade605I have to manually update grub after 9.04's patch, anyone know the kernel #?21:54
sebsebsebtyrion_: your doing the wrong name21:54
tyrion_sebsebseb, oh, sorry21:54
chelzslade605: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu - linux on this list21:54
_matreya6wiijii, Openbox, or Fluxbox, yes, those are among the lightest wm's around...21:54
jpnubDoes anybody here use the new notification system on multiple monitors???21:54
wiijiiI've also just discovered Gnome-Do  total awesomeness. There's another called Launchy which I saw on XP - I think there's a linux version too but gnome do wasin repo21:54
racecar56blackbox too21:54
benh611I don't see an option for the partition editor and I need to find out if I can get back to windows21:54
wiijiijpnub what is the new system? I have dual mons21:54
aymenslt21:55
sebsebsebwiijii: yeah there are quite a few add ons you can get for Ubuntu21:55
weather15whoruns ubuntu completely?21:55
chelzwiijii: be sure to try out all you can to find the best fit for you. congrats on discovering linux.21:55
wiijiisebsebseb gnome-do is just an app tho really? How d'you mean addons?21:55
vartslade605: 2.6.28-11-generic21:55
chelzweather15: many do :)21:55
jpnubwiijii: the 9.04 notification system21:55
jameswfweather15: I do21:55
weather15who runs ubuntu completely?21:55
wiijiichelz I've been using linux for about 6 years :D21:55
pepperjackbenh611: ok you have installed ubuntu correct?21:55
_matreya6benh611, get gparted, that should show you if you still have your Windows partition21:55
jadams_I've got an nvidia card and I've installed driver 180 as jockey suggests.  When I restart, I just get a blank screen.  dpkg-reconfigure can restore me to the non-nvidia drivers, but I'd like to be able to use them obviously :)21:55
weather15I'm thinking about it my-self21:55
sebsebsebwiijii: as in programs that go well with GNome21:55
LjLweather15: what sort of question is that?21:55
wiijiijpnub I don't know what you mean21:55
ikoniaweather15: you asked - it's offtopic for this channel which is support discussion21:55
benh611yes I have21:56
jadams_weather15, my business (5 employees, 5 years old) runs entirely on ubuntu21:56
benh611I installed 8.1021:56
Guest30132i cannot install new programs to 9.0421:56
jadams_sry21:56
_matreya6jadams_, strange which nVidia GPU are you using?21:56
joseph14kmwhite sorry i've restarted firefox and lost the command of restoring Xorg,conf21:56
sebsebsebGuest30132: sure you can if you know how, do you?21:56
joseph14please just this time kmwhite21:56
wiijiisebsebseb Ah I see. Yeah well I'm currently using it with XFCE. I'm not sure where Gnome-do gets its search path from though. If it's the Gnome menu then it won't get updated now I'm not using gnome... I think21:56
jadams_G72 (GeForce 7300 SE)21:56
jadams__matreya6, oops, ping21:56
peeps[work]is there some page that is a good intro to the updated gnu screen in ubuntu21:56
weather15so ubuntu must be very reliable if this many people use it completely is it more reliable than windows?21:56
archlichGuest30132, the repositories are being slammed, keep trying, or try later tonight after traffic subsides21:56
chelzjadams_: it might be a repo thing. jocky isn't too good about reporting errors. it could be timing out and not actually installing21:56
Guest30132of course i do, with add remove programs21:56
JoesephDoes a live cd work to upgrade ubuntu, or is that just the alternate install?21:56
racecar56jadams_, i have a relative21:56
racecar56jadams_, nvidia geforce go 760021:56
ikoniaweather15: try it, see if works for you21:56
Guest30132ahh h thanks arch thats what i needed to know21:56
wiijiiAnyone else here using gnome-do/launchy21:57
ikoniaweather15: if it works for you is what's important21:57
mrwesweather15, I feel so21:57
sebsebsebweather15: yes  Ubuntu might one day be like the new Windows, when it comes to market share, as in having most of the market21:57
ikoniaweather15: why ?21:57
weather15that I wil21:57
mrweswiijii, I use it21:57
ikoniaweather15: sorry - not you21:57
_matreya6jadams_, should be old enough to be fully supported...21:57
TheFunkbombhmm I don't know why this won't update21:57
jadams_chelz, does jockey just use whatever repo I'm using?  I switched to de mirror for better connection21:57
ikoniawiijii: why21:57
wiijiimrwes with Gnome?21:57
kmwhitejoseph14: sudo X -configure && sudo mv /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf21:57
weather15that's okay21:57
wiijiiikonia why what?21:57
mrweswiijii, yep21:57
joseph14rhank you21:57
ikoniawiijii: why do you want to know if other people are using it ?21:57
trashguyanyone hvae any mirros not running at like 20kbps21:57
jpnubDoes anybody here use the new notification system on multiple monitors???21:57
ikoniawiijii: do you have a problem with it21:57
joseph14thank you **21:57
sebsebsebweather15: Ubuntu is the most used   GNU/Linux  distribution21:57
NalfOh my gosh! 12KB/s.. repository go go go! :D21:57
ikoniatrashguy: just keep with it21:57
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sebsebsebweather15: on the desktop21:57
_matreya6sebsebseb, on the Server side, Red Hat still rules supreme...21:57
wiijiiikonia Nurp. Just wondering if anyone has used it with XFCE21:57
mrwesikonia, works fine for me -- addictive even21:57
racecar56</sarcasm>21:57
pepperjackbenh611: hmm try opening a terminal and typing: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst    once this opens up in the text editor remove the 'hiddenmenu' line and change timeout 3 to like timeout 20  save then when you reboot you should see your boot menu and the choice for windows.  if it doesn work when you select it that can be fixed (assuming partition is there)21:57
chelzjadams_: ah yes it should use the new mirror since it uses apt. have you had the driver work for you before?21:57
sebsebseb_matreya6: yes see above21:57
jpnubnalf:try using torrrents?21:57
chelz_matreya6: personal preference :P21:58
ikoniawiijii: ok - so you do get this is a support channel, not a chat channel ?21:58
weather15I use desktop but was thinking about using on my server but reliablility is what worries me21:58
Nalfjpnub: I'm getting the server addition via torrent.21:58
jadams_chelz, I've been running amd in this machine, so I don't think so21:58
jadams_I don't know what my home machines are running, successfully...they're both nvidia21:58
weather15server edition for server21:58
wiijiiikonia: My support query is that I want to sort out the gnome-do/XFCE menus21:58
mrwesweather15, I run 8.04.2 server edition21:58
sebsebsebweather15: 8.04 is best for servers21:58
jpnubnalf:whats the main difference with the server addition?21:58
admin_masu3701command /j # ubuntu+1 wont work21:58
wiijiiikonia Point taken though, I'm looking for a menu generator21:58
ikoniawiijii: and you've been told you can't convert them, you'll have to make your xfce menu21:58
weather15nice to know21:58
sebsebsebweather15: since long term supopurt 5 years suppourt on the desktop21:58
wiijiiikonia: *you* told me, perhaps someone else has a suggestion21:59
sebsebsebweather15: uh server21:59
jadams_chelz, it's stuck at 95% on an apt-get update, so maybe you're right21:59
sebsebsebweather15: another 4 years of suppourt on the server21:59
raphacurious ... i thought GRUB couldnt boot into ext4 but it seems to work like a charm21:59
_matreya6sebsebseb, sorry missed that part "on the Desktop". Channel is kinda buisy right now, messages are more flowing in than trickling ;-)21:59
weather15very good thing thanks21:59
ikoniawiijii: 3 people have told you now, see what google says it you don't trust our opinion21:59
Nalfjpnub: To my knowledge it includes all the server stuff.. MySQl php apache ftp vnc etc.21:59
mrweswiijii, if ikonia doesn't know -- that's it :)21:59
chelzjadams_: that would be my first guess. i'd check if it's actually installing. if you know it's installing and the kernel module is loaded, then it might be another issue21:59
jpnubnalf: yea ok thats what I thought thanks22:00
jadams_chelz, nvidia binary programs are installed (nvidia-settings, etc.) and there's no error in the Xorg.0.log22:00
mrwesweather15, sure...good luck...you need a good how to?22:00
Nalfjpnub: Sure.22:00
wiijiimrwes: hehe. nothing's ever that simple :D22:00
sebsebseb_matreya6: yeah,  very busy channel,   you said  about redhat  at like the same time, when I said Ubuntu is most used on the  desktop22:00
wiijiiAnyway, cheers22:00
ubuntu_you mean that this lines speed are of your so busy downloading computers?22:00
manila1I just installedd 9.04 in my Presario CQ40 notebook. There's no sound. Help/22:00
chelzrapha: grub can boot into many FSes, the only issue it has is when you have an older grub in /boot on a foreign FS22:00
ubuntu_thats amazing.....22:00
weather15I'm been helping some people with ubuntu22:00
Guest30132wow, registries have let me in22:00
ramblexhow/where do i get kernel modules for ubuntu 9.04?22:00
mrwesActionJackson!22:00
mrwesheh22:00
ActionParsnipyo22:00
ikoniaramblex: they are already in the kernel22:00
sebsebsebActionParsnip: hi22:00
mrwes\o/22:00
ais523ramblex: you can mostly just download them with the package manager if you don't have them already22:00
NalfHey, ActionParsnip, long time no see.22:00
chelzjadams_: any DKMS messages in dmesg?22:00
weather15I am good at using it but I have never really used for a high reliablity position22:01
ais523ramblex: are you looking for a module in particular?22:01
jpnubmanila1: Tryed googling it?22:01
ActionParsnipNalf: i was in about 3 / 4 hours ago ;)22:01
ramblexais523: loop22:01
coincoin161hi guys22:01
jm2kSVN installed on "/usr/local/bin" but when i run command "svn" via CLI says it cant find it in "/usr/bin" ? how to fix or add directory to PATH ?22:01
invernizzimanila1: execute in the command line "pulsaudio --kill; pulseaudio"22:01
bsandersIf I already have 8.10 installed, is there a way to upgrade from the 9.04 CD?22:01
NalfActionParsnip: My computer broke like three weeks ago.:P I haven't been in since.22:01
pepperjackbsanders: yes22:01
sapageis there a command to upgrade to 9.04 via command line?22:01
jadams_chelz, dmesg|grep DKMS says no22:01
ikoniajm2k: PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin; export PATH22:01
chelzweather15: do all the testing you feel is necessary. i'm sure if you use any of the top linux distros you'll be very satisfied22:01
ubuntu_juasjuas22:01
dtcheninvernizzi: no, killall pulseaudio;start-pulseaudio-x1122:01
mineralewhere can I get the torrent for 9.04 netbook22:01
ikonia!upgrade > sapage22:01
mrwesbsanders, yes, but from the alternate install CD22:01
ubottusapage, please see my private message22:01
EdgEywhat does "{a}" mean in apt?22:01
coincoin161can someone tell me if in the ubuntu server edition there is the module hp_plus.ko ?22:01
Nalfhttp://ubuntu.com22:01
bsanderspepperjack: do I just boot from it or...?22:01
ikoniacoincoin161: what device is it for22:01
TheFunkbombI still can't get the brasero update in update manager to highlight.  I don't know why22:01
dtcheninvernizzi: there are instances where pulseaudio -k is insufficient due to failure to reap its previous pid22:02
jpnubbsanders: clean installs are best, plus you can user ext422:02
_matreya6sebsebseb, just browsing the features of ext4 right now, it looks very attractive, but I'll wait until it has matured more.22:02
ubuntu_in my world, 90% of you would be fired in 1 month22:02
ipodman715distribution upgrade woo22:02
coincoin161an eisa network card22:02
ikoniaubuntu_: please keep it to support discussion22:02
NalfWhat is better about ext4?22:02
sebsebseb_matreya6: if you want, but loads of people have got on well with Ext422:02
manila1invernizzi: i tried that22:02
invernizzidtchen: thanks, didn't know that22:02
jm2kikonia: you're a Life Saver, thx a bunch!22:02
ais523ramblex: I don't know about that one either, unfortunately22:02
ipodman715ext5, obv22:02
jpnububuntu_: but but, i have a famliy to feed!!!22:02
ikoniajm2k: no problem22:02
bsandersjpnub ahh, yeah, I am interested in the upgrade to ext422:02
coincoin161ikonia: an eisa network card22:02
ais523Nalf: it's more efficient when you use very large files, and stores times with more accuracy22:02
invernizzimanila1: what output did you get?22:03
jpnubbsanders: then you have to do a clean install :(22:03
tim_sharittbsanders: If you want to upgrade using a cd, you will need the alternete CD. You cannot upgrade using the live cd22:03
ramblexais523: k, weird cos it was in the 8.10 kernel22:03
ipodman715yeah :(22:03
ikoniacoincoin161: if it's a HP one, I suspect it will be in the HP priloant or core pack22:03
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pepperjackbsanders: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lst.  now this is kinda complicated. not really but a little. youll need to add the cd as a repo and comment out the other repos then apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade.  youll want to google maybe for a stepbystep22:03
Shortguy109Does anyone know why my microphone isn't working? I've been trying to talk on skype still won't work22:03
chelzjadams_: this might help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Troubleshooting22:03
pepperjackbsanders: you dont boot into the livecd22:03
amirmanwhere can i find the text files that store my networking configurations?22:03
sebsebsebShortguy109: you will have to set up your sound in  the  skype config22:03
pepperjackamirman: /etc/network22:03
Shortguy109sebsebseb: i've already tried that22:04
_matreya6*, ok, here it is... the restart button to complete my upgrade...fingers crossed. >...Click...<22:04
hadizg22:04
benh611so after I get gparted then what do I need to do22:04
NalfIf I upgrade to 8.10 can I upgrade  to 9.04 without doing a clean install?22:04
invernizzi Shortguy109: try to execute "padsp skype"22:04
amirmanpepperjack: oh of course, thanks22:04
coincoin161ikona: can you try modprobe hp_plus ?22:04
ais523ramblex: are you referring to the loop-aes module?22:04
sebsebsebNalf: yes, but  you won't get full Ext422:04
sebsebsebNalf: infact you wont' get Ext4 at all22:04
jm2kbsanders: you can upgrade via the ISO (alternative), just download it and follow ubuntu help/upgrade instructions. Took me 2 hours to upgrade my Thinkpad this morning.22:04
pepperjackamirman: np.  specifically the interfaces file22:04
ikoniacoincoin161: not got a 9.04 box to hand22:04
chelzjadams_: dmesg | grep -i nv     should mention  NVRM22:04
sebsebsebNalf: something can be done to Ext3 for partial suppourt though22:04
Guest30132anyone know logrithims?22:04
crazydiphow do i find out all the /etc/ files that i have manually modified?22:04
ikoniacoincoin161: it will only probe if the hardware is present22:04
Nalfsebsebseb: That's ok for now because I am too lazy to go buy blank cds.:P22:04
ipodman715vm :)22:04
manila1invernizzi: this is what i did http://is.gd/ua5t22:04
invernizziShortguy109: if you own a dell, there is currently an issue with microphones.22:04
ikoniacrazydip: you can do a find and search for modified date22:04
Shortguy109I do own a dell, but it worked on the older version that i used22:05
thorin.net22:05
chelzcrazydip: what are you trying to do?22:05
coincoin161ikonia: yes but if you don't have the file hp_plus.ko it will tell you22:05
sebsebsebNalf: also probably best to wait untill weekend or something  or maybe next week even, when the download servers are more quite22:05
JoesephI download the i368 build of the iso if I run a 32-bit..... correct?22:05
chelzcrazydip: as in why do you want to find those22:05
ikoniacoincoin161: ahh yes, thats true22:05
ActionParsnipcoincoin161: i dont have the hp_plus module22:05
sebsebsebNalf: or your upgrade will be slow22:05
bluenzohow do i burn a VIDEO_TS folder to a DVD in ubuntu?22:05
ikoniacoincoin161: I suspect it's in the proliant or core pack from hP22:05
Shortguy109invernizzi: tried padsp and it doesn't work22:05
invernizzimanila1: yes, but if you give us the output of that on pastebin.com we might be able to help you22:05
nightrid3rJoeseph: yes22:05
ramblexais523: don't think so, unless it's the one that lets me mount a .iso file22:05
stevecccwhere is the best place to manage partitions on ubuntu - i want to format a disk and create a ext4 partition22:05
ipodman715yes22:05
Nalfsebsebseb: It's ok.. semester is almost over, have a lot of homework to do anyways.22:05
ActionParsnipbluenzo: i know k3b can do it22:05
coincoin161thanks, i only find this module on the debian kernels22:05
jpnubbluenzo: pretty sure you can just right click it, write to disk?22:05
coincoin161for now22:05
_matreya6Hmm, just a progress bar while starting up? Well, I'll figure it out how to restore my system messages...22:05
chelzNalf: you can torrent the alternate discs and use those to upgrade from. if you're not in a hurry it is best to wait until the servers aren't so loaded down though22:06
PassePartouTmrwes i got it to work, i think it was the restarting but if it wasn't, the restarting fixed it :) now to wait to download 9.x and reinstall, hahah, cheers mate, thanks again22:06
ais523ramblex: the loopback device is there, I think it's part of the main kernel rather than a separate kernel module22:06
bluenzojpnub, ive never written anything on ubuntu, just curious22:06
manila1invernizzi: here's the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/156763/22:06
_stochastic_when are Karmic Koala repositories going to open up22:06
jpnubbluenzo: yea, I'm not completely sure but if not that then google would give you an answer22:06
ikonia_stochastic_: when development starts22:06
crazydipikonia, chelz: i know that over the past months i have modified a few files in /etc/, but i want to change them back to their defaults before i dist-upgrade22:06
PassePartouTcan somebody recommend me a good (or the best :P) irc client for linux?22:07
ActionParsnip!irc22:07
ubottuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines22:07
_stochastic_ikonia, nice circular logic22:07
PassePartouTtyvm22:07
ActionParsnip!best | PassePartouT22:07
ubottuPassePartouT: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.22:07
lucasOla22:07
mrwesPassePartouT, very good my friend -- try Xchat for IRC22:07
ikoniacrazydip: you can't change them back if you don't have backups22:07
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chelzbluenzo: bluenzo might look into k3b and/or brasero22:07
Guest66691ls22:07
TrogLedytelo22:07
ramblexais523, lol -.- thanks. I must of put in the wrong mount type or something22:07
PassePartouTrofl, i know there's no best but i like to hear ppls biases :)22:07
invernizziShortguy109: is your mic working in the gnome recorder?22:07
bluenzochelz,  ty22:07
nnutterThe torrents linked on (http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt) seem to incorrectly linked. They are pointing to ISO files on the cloudfront.com.22:07
crazydipikonia, of course you can, you re-install a package and tell it to clobber config files22:07
ActionParsnipPassePartouT: try a few, see which you prefer22:07
A|iI get 'NTFS signature is missing.' when mounting my internal drives, is should be fixed by mounting and unmounting the drive with windows, is it possible to fix it in ubuntu without using windows?22:08
ikoniacrazydip: just update - they don't need to go back to defaults22:08
Shortguy109invernizzi: im using kubuntu 9.0422:08
crazydipikonia, i have done it before, i just forgot how since its been a long time22:08
manila1invernizzi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156763/22:08
ActionParsnip!ntfs-3g | A|i22:08
ubottuA|i: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions22:08
sebsebsebShortguy109: ok good news.  KDE3 is an option in 9.04 :)22:08
Lunar_LampHow do I alter the location of the new ubuntu notifications? I have two screens, and they're appearing the top right of my left (secondary) screen rather than the top right of my right (primary) screen.22:08
fizkquestions about jaunty here or the other room?22:08
askandIs there some way I can choose to boot into windows on next reboot?22:08
PassePartouTActionParsnip yeah i think i will, i knew about xchat already since it was around the last time i had linux on, just wasn't sure what others people were using, thanks though22:08
sebsebsebfizk: here22:08
chelzcrazydip: if i was trying to find files like that i would use the command "find".22:08
robertkis this where one asks about 9.04 upgrading from 8.10?22:08
sebsebsebfizk: jaunty is released now22:08
ipodman715sure22:08
fizksweet22:09
jpnubLunar_lamp: Exact same problem!!!22:09
Alinonwell i see flash is back to being fugged again ahah22:09
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sebsebsebfizk: released today22:09
sebsebsebfizk: join #ubuntu-release-party for a virtual party :D22:09
ActionParsnipaskand: sure, as long as there is an option in grub you can select it22:09
chelzaskand: there is a menu each time you boot that should allow you to pick which OS you want to load. you can set grub to have your default automatically set as your last chosen option22:09
ActionParsnipaskand: if not, add it22:09
fizklol22:09
crazydipchelz, find will only give me modified date, but i dont know when i modified them... i need a dpkg/apt command (i know it exists, but i dont remember it)22:09
Lunar_Lampjpnub: any progress on it so far?22:09
nnutterThe torrents linked on (http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt) seem to incorrectly linked. They are pointing to ISO files on the cloudfront.com. Whereas the ones on (http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/) work correctly.22:09
Shortguy109uhhhh any ideas how to get my mic working tho?22:09
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Slartnnutter: I found that out too22:09
TheFunkbombOkay, I fixed the Brasero issue.  I went into synaptic package manager and I right clicked brasero and marked it for update22:10
invernizzimanila1:you need to add yourself to some groups: execute sudo adduser your_username pulse_access;sudo adduser your_username pulse_rt;sudo adduser your_username pulse22:10
chelzcrazydip: you do "find all files modified within the last 3 months" with find22:10
TheFunkbombeasy cheesy in yo' feezy22:10
jpnubLunar_lamp: none at all, I've hunted through the GUI but couldn't find anything. tried searching.22:10
ActionParsnipShortguy109: check the levels are high and the mic isnt muted22:10
Slartnnutter: but after refreshing the ubuntu page it worked..22:10
nnutterSlart: not here22:10
TheFunkbombI think I fixed it at least22:10
Slartnnutter: perhaps it's just one of the many webservers that are broken22:10
Shortguy109ActionParsnip: yes, i've already tried that :922:10
Shortguy109:(*22:10
invernizziShortguy109: is your mic working somewhere else (not in skype)?22:10
crazydipcrazydip, yes, but i know that i did a few modifications RIGHT after i upgraded, so within hours of dist-upgrading 6 months ago.... :D22:10
techqbertAnybody think it makes sense to "bittorentize" apt-get?22:10
nnutterSlart: OK, well then...22:10
DragnslcrAnyone know if the md5 sums for the DVD images are posted anywhere?22:10
askandActionParsnip: chelz: But I wonder if it is possible to choose from inside ubuntu before restarting that on next reboot I want to start Windows for example22:10
Shortguy109invernizzi: i don't think so, not quite sure22:10
ikoniatechqbert: no, and it's offtopic for here22:10
ActionParsniptechqbert: its in the pipelines afaik22:10
crazydipchelz, thanks for the find suggestions, i guess i'll have to read up on debian's docs22:11
Shortguy109invernizzi: is there anything i cud download so i cud check?22:11
jpnubDragnslcr: should be on the ubuntu download page22:11
invernizziShortguy109: execute "pavucontrol", input devices22:11
Slarttechqbert: perhaps... write a suggestion to launchpad and see if anyone else agrees22:11
nnutterd2j60aaoklmkol.cloudfront.net is broken22:11
chelzaskand: you can by editing your grub menu.lst to set windows as the default. there isn't a gui to do it though22:11
Shortguy109invernizzi: pavucontrol isn't installed22:11
chelzcrazydip: i hope you remember/find that other way. it sounds easier. heh gl22:11
millertimek1a2m3hey how do i upgrade with the cd22:11
millertimek1a2m3to 9.0422:11
ikonia!upgrade > millertimek1a2m322:11
ubottumillertimek1a2m3, please see my private message22:11
invernizziShortguy109: I think kde has a recording utility, but I don't know the name. Anyone?22:11
miramardesignhey all i have intrepid ibex, should I install jaunty or do i need heron first??22:11
ikoniamillertimek1a2m3: remember you must use the alternative CD22:11
robertkis this where one asks about 9.04 upgrading from 8.10?22:11
ipodman715must be alternate cd22:11
jpnub!upgrade > robertk22:12
ubotturobertk, please see my private message22:12
ActionParsnipchelz: why would you need a gui, the file is childishly readable :)22:12
invernizziShortguy109:sudo aptitude install pavucontrol22:12
taram21_51@hotmail.com22:12
KemayoI downloaded the alternate CD, and am running cdromupgrade from it. I told it not to fetch packages from the network. Why is it still doing that?22:12
laucianhi there..22:12
nnutterAlright, better report. The server d2j60aaoklmkol.cloudfront.net is incorrectly linking ISO images instead of the (correct) torrent files.22:12
manila1invernizzi: i did as you told and got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/156770/22:12
skvMaJ-mobilemy new installation is hanging when installing restricted drivers at 0%.....are the mirrors that swamped?22:12
PassePartouTquick question, for an x86 is the ubuntu-0.04-desktop0i386.iso the right cd?22:12
Slartnnutter: d2j60aaoklmkol.cloudfront.net gives me the iso instead of torrent file22:12
lauciani have installed kde over standart ubuntu 8.10 (with gnome), then i removed kde22:12
Dragnslcrjpnub- nice, thanks. They must have gone up since I checked a few hours ago22:12
stevecccwhere can i find the disk manager on ubuntu22:12
sebsebsebtara:    that email address can get spammed now since you gave out in a publically logged channel and everything.   ,but hotmail gets loads of spam anyway22:12
Slartnnutter: ah.. the same one..22:12
Shortguy109invernizzi: kk, gonna take a minute to install22:12
chelzActionParsnip: the terminal is a roadblock for a lot of people.. ;/22:13
jpnubLunar_Lamp: let me know if you make any progress22:13
nnutterSlart: so it's confirmed ;-)22:13
ActionParsnipKemayo: easiest way is to disconnect your network when you install22:13
lauciannow i cant really start the x1122:13
invernizzimanila1: ok, now you have to logout, then login again.22:13
KemayoActionParsnip: Worth a shot.22:13
laucianit does not load gdm as default22:13
fizkquestion:  I ran "update-manager -d",  it was downloading, then quit.  I re-ran it, and before downloading again, it will always quit/crash.22:13
jikutyjust a quick question, when updating from 8.10 to 9.04 using the update path (not a fresh reinstall), will my manually added packages be preserved? (e.g. i installed Virtualbox through apt-get)22:13
jpnubDragnslcr: no problem22:13
manpooleany idea on a time frame of dri2 support?22:13
laucianis there a way to get rid of kde and make gnome default again?22:13
manpoolefir ati22:13
crazydipchelz, yeah.... it helps to do routine clean ups once in awhile when you dist-upgrade for years and years... cheers!22:13
ipodman715ifdown22:13
zsquarepluscis there a channel about unbuntu on ARM (NSLU2)?22:13
ActionParsnipchelz: it can be edited in the gui too: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst22:13
sebsebseb!puregnome |  laucian22:13
ubottulaucian: If you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 ; sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop »22:13
mphilllaucian: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop22:13
ais523laucian: to make Gnome default, go to options on the login screen, choose change session, then choose gnome22:13
ais523laucian: you'll have to install Gnome first as mphill suggests, if you don't have it already22:14
Alinoni guess i should have went with the 3rd party flash component for firefox >.<22:14
chelzActionParsnip: but not in the sense of selecting an item from a gui menu, within preferences or something. people that are used to guis for everything have a hard time adjusting22:14
Shortguy109invernizzi: okay pavucontrol's installed now what?22:14
chelzAlinon: the nonfree flash in the repos works fine here22:14
jpnubAlinon: Flash is such a mess22:14
TheFunkbombyes, problem solved22:14
Alinonchelz: yeh, i didn't heeh, i elected for the ubuntu extra's version22:14
invernizziShortguy109: execute it, and go to "Input devices"22:14
mrwesPassePartouT, I told you it was all about the proper power up sequence :)22:15
Alinonchelz: it's fugged in the 9.04 upgrade22:15
mrwesAlinon, works on this end22:15
fizkIs anyone  having  problems with upgrade-manager?  I ran "update-manager -d",  it was downloading, then quit.  I re-ran it, and before downloading again, it will always quit/crash.22:15
nnutterSlart: Alright, well I'm reporting it on LP.22:15
Alinonmrwes: i tried hulu.com - says i need to upgrade my flash version22:15
ais523fizk: yes, it's because the repos are overloaded today, because of the new version22:15
ipodman715hmm why did it tell me to run /sbin/lilo after upgrade?  I'm just running it in vm22:15
PassePartouTmrwes haha yeah, brings me back to the days of win98 when your ethernet falls out and you need to restart just to get internet again :P picky procedures but at least they always work :P22:15
Shortguy109invernizzi: okay i've went there22:16
Slartnnutter: give me the link and I'll confirm it22:16
belimdoes anyone know why an HFS+ external drive would be read only?22:16
laucianwell it says, no KDE installed, and gnome is already installed..22:16
weather15My wifi drops out and I have to restart to reconnect22:16
weather15\22:16
coreyoFor the first time, Jaunty is seeing my HDMI audio device out of the box, however, I don't seem to be receiving any sound through it.  Is there a command that will specifically force some sort of speaker test to be output through the HDMI cable?22:16
lauciani think i need set gdm on start up22:16
belimI have tried with automount and mounting manually but it keeps sayings its read only22:16
Shortguy109invernizzi: i put the volume all the way up22:16
invernizzi Shortguy109: you should see an image of a microphone, and a bar that moves if you speak22:16
manila1inve22:16
invernizzimanila1:yes?22:16
Shortguy109invernizzi: i don't see that :o22:17
laucianthe problem the system wants to start kdm..but it is not existing..22:17
manila1invernizzi: i've reset. still no sound :(22:17
ActionParsnipchelz: if they can learn they can gain more power in their system22:17
mrwesAlion: hulu works here22:17
Nalfcoreyo: there are some commands to open up the alsa control panel, but I forgot them. search on the ubuntu site. :)22:17
Shortguy109invernizzi: i see an image of a microphone tho22:17
fizkais523: oh....that's not a nice way to handle overload22:17
_matreya6Hmm, all my fonts look ugly after the upgrade. I'm using a active matrix TFT screen22:17
mrwesAlion: full screen too22:17
fizkais523: it should say "Dude....it's release day. Give us a break."22:17
Alinonmrwes: huh wierd, wonder why it's asking me to upgrade my flash O.o22:17
Slartnnutter: you can get the dvd release from here if you want it http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/release/dvd/22:17
invernizzimanila1: Well, at least it's one problem less. retry  killall pulseaudio;start-pulseaudio-x1122:17
frostburn_matreya6, system > admin > appearance22:18
sukihi, how do i disable the loud system/error beep?22:18
Shortguy109invernizzi: what do i do tho, i see a microphone icon22:18
coreyoAnyone know how to force a sound test through my hdmi cable to diagnose whether or not it's working?22:18
sukiand also on bootup22:18
chelzActionParsnip: oh definitely, i'm all for learning. but ubuntu is targeting people who don't necessarily want to learn, making things as easy as possible22:18
ActionParsnip_matreya6: http://osnovice.blogspot.com/2007/07/fonts-are-ugly-in-ubuntu-gnome.html22:18
nnutterSlart: thanks yeah, I'm already about 50% through :-)22:18
mrwesAlinon, flash 10 right?22:18
invernizziShortguy109:one sec22:18
ActionParsnipsuki: head to sound preferences -> notifications and disable whatever offends you22:18
ais523belim: apparently it can happen if there was an unclean shutdown on the device that last accessed the drive, that leaves journal data there which Ubuntu doesn't know how to process; if you access it on some other OS, then switch back to Ubuntu, it'll probably work22:18
Alinonmrwes: says i need 9 or higher22:18
rshade98hey guys what is the cmd to do unattended upgrade?22:18
belimais523, nice one thanks :)22:19
joshjtlwhats the least intrusive way to install IE6 on ubuntu?22:19
ikoniarshade98: it's not a command,22:19
Slart!upgrade | rshade9822:19
ubotturshade98: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading22:19
ActionParsnipchelz: agreed but a lot of the time, a simple config change can be significantly easier than wrestling a gui22:19
nnutterAlright, reported as #365705, incorrectly linked torrents on the cloud.22:19
iso50how can I update from ext3 to ext4 on a second drive?22:19
invernizziShortguy109: Just to see if it's only skype, run krecord22:19
mrwesAlinon, dunno...I"m running flash 10 here22:19
manila1invernizzi: check this pls http://paste.ubuntu.com/156773/22:19
Slartjoshjtl: ouch.. perhaps using wine? or a vm?22:19
ikoniaiso50: that would be a manual process22:19
sukiActionParsnip: i disabled everything, yet i get this loud beep22:19
chelzActionParsnip: all depends on how much of a mental block the user has against terminals22:19
sukion the internal speakers i guess22:19
nnutterSlart: would you mind confirming #365705 for me?22:19
iso50ikonia: Thats fine, how is it done?22:19
hanasakiwhats a good linux/windows opensource free thing like webex for conference, remote control and voip?22:19
ActionParsnipchelz: sadly true :(22:19
_matreya6ActionParsnip, thanks for the link, but everything was looking fine in 8.10, without Microsoft Fonts...22:19
Shortguy109invernizzi: i typed krecord into konsole but it said command not found22:20
Slartnnutter: sure22:20
haggis-AAOintel driver is giving ubuntu bad press , http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzIyMA22:20
chelzActionParsnip: we're making good progress though :)22:20
afaynousalaut22:20
Alinonguess i'm gonna try to restart again, maybe i'll nudge something22:20
nordchanasaki: logmein is very good22:20
rshade98thanks Slart22:20
ActionParsnipsuki: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/1155622:20
ikoniaiso50: you'd have to copy all your data across to the seond disk, do a clean install/update on your ext3 partition, then copy the config files back over22:20
rshade98and ubottu22:20
hanasakithanks nordc22:20
hanasakinordc:  anything else??22:20
manila1invernizzi:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/156773/22:21
hanasakidimdim ?  kolabora?22:21
ActionParsniphanasaki: try ekiga22:21
invernizziShortguy109: install it22:21
hanasakiActionParsnip:  can that do a conference?  and remote screen control .. also to be used for presenations and helpdesk22:21
ActionParsnipchelz: i always advise cli for samba config22:21
Nalflogmein is opensourcE?22:21
Shortguy109invernizzi: okay thx22:21
ipodman715don't think so22:21
ActionParsniphanasaki: possibly, check it out22:21
nordcNalf: it's not, but it's free and it's good22:22
belimais523, does it have to be another OS? Only I dont really have another OS I can use..... Only 2 Ubuntu systems. :)22:22
Shortguy109invernizzi: couldn't find anything matching krecord22:22
hanasakiActionParsnip:  I have.. dont think it does22:22
ais523belim: ah, in that case that might not be the problem; Ubuntu can't leave journal data either22:22
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hanasakilogmein is .com .. not free?22:22
ais523belim: so unless you've accessed it from elsewhere, it's probably a different problem entirely22:22
nordchanasaki: sorry, i didn't get that part of open source :-))22:22
bigosanyone has any expectation when will this repo-slowdown end?22:23
invernizzimanila1:sudo polkit-auth --user bimbim --grant org.pulseaudio.acquire-real-time22:23
ikoniabigos: when people stop downloading....unknonw22:23
ikoniaunknown22:23
hanasakiah nordc its ok... ya I need FREE opensource also prefered... surprised google didnt get into it yet....22:23
mrwesikonia, heh22:23
invernizzi manila1:sudo polkit-auth --user bimbim --grant org.pulseaudio.acquire-high-priority22:23
Shortguy109invernizzi: anything else to get? cuz krecord doesn't show22:23
ActionParsniphanasaki: hmm22:23
belimais523, I was using it from my old OSX box but I have formatted it since then and its now running Ubuntu22:23
reinisgod, Ubuntu sucks22:23
* mrwes prefers torrentin' the alternate install io22:23
reinisI install it and the package management doesn't work22:24
bigosikonia:  sure, i know that ;) but that's what probably happened 6 months ago, so maybe people remember how long this usually takes ;)22:24
wiredfoolis there a 9.04 netbook remix torrent?22:24
victorhhi! i have installed the vncserver. But i've find out that there is a server which cames with ubuntu, and works better for my friend. but i can't use it 'cause the vncserver have messed everything. how can i get the previous configuration of the server which came with ubuntu?22:24
belimais523, alright nm. I will figure out another way round. Going to have to backup ~30gb over my lan!.... :/22:24
reinisI get errors about having to manually run commands22:24
ActionParsnipreinis: whats up, try asking for help instead of trolling22:24
khuntso whats the crack with the ultra poor graphics on my netbook with jaunty?22:24
ikoniabigos: different each time, first day normally the worst, stick with it22:24
BRP226irc.what.cd22:24
tlynghaggis-aa0: I understand nobody got any right to complain on any open-source application, atleast when most of the development is community driven. Allthough I have to say that when upgrading from 8.10 to 9.04 nearly renders my computer useless (atleast extremely slow Xorg) I can't say the critics is unfounded. I do understand developers wanting to upgrade drivers, xorg etc; but at what cost? :/ using the compiz application switcher (sexy alt22:24
bigosikonia: all right, thanks22:24
nordchanasaki: google has it but it's still in beta phase; they bought a company few years ago which is supposed to do just that22:24
_matreya6ActionParsnip, thanks again, do you also have a tip for decent Japanese fonts?22:25
manila1invernizzi: done as instructed. what should i do now? reset?22:25
hanasakinordc:  what company? remeber?22:25
telavivI just downloaded ubuntu 9.04 via torrent. unfortunately i recieve this error "cannot open [insert directory here]/cache no such file or directory" The folder is indeed not there but I know that somewhere On my computer is 700 Mb. How can i find and delete this?22:25
invernizzimanila1: try to restart pulseaudio again (same command as before), and give me the output22:25
htpcprobably a useless question, anybody know how to get HDMI to send audio as well as video to my TV?22:26
mrwestelaviv, maybe try a 'force check' on the file from your torrent client22:26
ActionParsnip_matreya6: not sure, try asking in #ubuntu-jp22:26
manila1invernizzi: sorry, what the command again?22:26
racecar56ubuntu 9.04 is epic22:26
nordchanasaki: i might have it bookmarked on del.ciou.us22:26
invernizzimanila1: killall pulseaudio;start-pulseaudio-x1122:26
ActionParsnipreinis: can you please give details22:26
Nalf!kde | nalf22:26
ubottuNalf, please see my private message22:26
reinis"This is a major failure of your software management system. Please check for broken packages with synaptic, check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information with: 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudu apt-get install -f'."22:26
hanasakinordc:  what is that? can you give me a url?22:26
_matreya6ActionParsnip, if they understand any English (Eigo) there ;-P  I'll ask there Thanks22:26
reinison a completely, 100% fresh install22:26
DisabledDuckhow do i open .tar programs?22:27
manila1invernizzi:  here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/156777/22:27
NalfEigo!22:27
victorhhi! i have installed the vncserver. But i've find out that there is a server which cames with ubuntu, and works better for my friend. but i can't use it 'cause the vncserver have messed everything. how can i get the previous configuration of the server which came with ubuntu?22:27
nordchanasaki: i'll check it out, one sec22:27
ActionParsnipDisabledDuck: tar xvf <tar file>22:27
hanasakithanks22:27
_matreya6DisabledDuck, just doubleclik on them, that should open FileRoller22:27
NalfNihongo ga wakarimasu?22:27
ais523DisabledDuck: using archive manager, or by double-clicking22:27
NalfOh boy.. off support topic.22:27
hanasakinordc:  BRB... please send in a private msg?22:27
victorhi would like to restore the configuration of server which came with ubuntu...22:27
invernizzimanila1: that is good. Is the sound working?22:27
_matreya6Nalf, hai, chotto wakarimasu22:28
zsquarepluscvictorh: they should be independent. the built in can be enabled under the settings (desktop sharing)22:28
wwarriorwho chooses the name of the ubuntu versions ?22:28
ActionParsnipwwarrior: canonical22:28
manila1invernizzi: not yet :(22:28
pace_t_zuluDisabledDuck: $ tar -xvf filename.tar22:28
belimare people updating to Jaunty straight away?22:28
ex_machinahrmm22:28
* Flare183 is here to help with the Upgrade flood hehe22:28
un2himi recommend category5.tv, and look for the "perfectbuntu" script to add things like codecs, fonts, awn, skype, and others22:28
ais523Flare183: so am I22:28
Shortguy109invernizzi: is there anything else i cud use to record instead of krecord? cuz it won't show22:28
Flare183ais523: Good!22:28
ActionParsnipDisabledDuck: if its a program to install, have you checked the repos?22:29
benh611I installed ubuntu 8.10 and I can no longer get to windows. I use gparted and I am not seeing a windows partition anywhere22:29
DiDiVphi22:29
KyleKif you dont see it in gparted it sounds like you clicked the kill everything option22:29
manpooleso when will all the slow ubuntu servers be back to normal? lol22:29
DiDiVpsomeone install ubuntu 9.04?22:29
Flare183benh611: You might have deleted windows if you didn't partition it correctly22:29
invernizziShortguy109:arecord -d 10 -D hw:0,0 -f cd .wav22:29
victorhzsquareplusc: it was i though. but i was testing it, and the pc that i've installed vncserver via apt-get, the Remote Desktop does not work with i don't run the command "vncserver" to create it...22:29
KyleKDiDiVp: im sure one or two people have22:29
ActionParsnipDiDiVp: did about 3 weeks ago22:30
pochimy upgrade to 9.04 hasn't progressed for 1 hour now ... what to do, what to do?22:30
ActionParsnippochi: what point are you up to?22:30
Flare183manpoole: hehe they are ALL slow just be patient and try to use torrents22:30
victorhit was i though. but i was testing it, and the pc that i've installed vncserver via apt-get, the Remote Desktop does not work if i don't run the command "vncserver" to create it...22:30
Shortguy109invernizzi: do i type that in konsole or what? :o22:30
DiDiVpKyleK, I installed and saw one bug in Add/Remove app22:30
pochiActionParsnip: it 8 minutes remaning of installation22:30
manpooleoh no problem downloading jaunty via torrents getting a 2 megs a sec22:30
ActionParsnippochi: installation or download ?22:30
ais523pochi: is it the installation or the download that's slow?22:30
DiDiVpActionParsnip, that's nice22:30
manpoolebut running synaptic is where it becomes slow22:30
pochiActionParsnip: installation, it's doing some noip2 stuff22:31
fizkHow can I change the server that update-manager uses?22:31
ais523pochi: how long as it hung for?22:31
DiDiVpais523, It's better download using torrent22:31
ikoniafizk: modify your /etc/apt/sources.list22:31
reinisand why the f**k aren't there .torrents in the official download page22:31
ais523fizk: System | Administration | Software Sources22:31
pochiais523: more than 1 hour22:31
Alek_Anyone know of a way to limit the amount of items shown in the dropdown list in epiphany when typing into the addressbar??22:31
manpoolefizk let me know too i was wondering22:31
Shortguy109invernizzi: do i type that in konsole or what? :o22:31
ActionParsnippochi: hmm, i'd check if theres a problem with that service and the upgrade process22:31
Flare183manpoole: That's because your are downloading from the massivly busy Ubuntu Servers22:31
reinisand how am I supposed to know if the CD image downloaded successfuly?22:31
zsquarepluscvictorh: vncserver runs a separate virtual desktop usually accessible as <yourhostname>:1 etc. while the built in desktop sharing in ubuntu exports the current screen under :022:31
invernizzishortguy109: yes22:31
WS|ThermalI'm kinda waiting for 9.10 D:22:31
reinisyou don't even list the fucking full size of the CD22:31
DiDiVpWS|Thermal, lol22:31
WS|Thermal!language reinis22:31
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about language reinis22:31
Flare183!language | reinis22:31
ais523pochi: it's possible to force-shutdown and finish off the upgrade by hand, but that's rather complicated and dangerous. I have had to do it before, though (it was my fault both times)22:31
ubottureinis: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.22:31
fizkmanpoole: modify your /etc/apt/sources.list22:31
Shortguy109invernizzi: it said Recording WAVE '.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo and then nothin happened22:31
WS|ThermalDiDiUp: I know I'm a sheep. Lol.22:32
manpooledo you know of a list of servers that you recommend i try?22:32
pochiais523: I'm not so couragous ... :/22:32
ikoniamanpoole: they will all be busy - just ride it out22:32
Flare183manpoole: I would go with the torrents right now22:32
manpooleeastern united staes22:32
DiDiVpWS|Thermal, I'm kidding22:32
ais523pochi: have you expanded the terminal tab on the display?22:32
acr0nymso much hassle about downloading an ubuntu iso lol22:32
manpoolei went with the torrents22:32
invernizzishortguy109: it's okay, it's recording your audio. speak, then press CTRL+C; then execute aplay hw*22:32
acr0nymI downloaded mine in less than a minute :P22:32
pochiais523: yes, I had to answer a question22:32
reiniswhere are the effing torrents?22:32
victorhzsquareplusc: right. but when i try to connect to the server, it gives that the connection was closed.22:32
ais523pochi: is it showing anything weird right now?22:32
manpoolebut using synaptic to install random packages takes ages lol22:32
wiredfoolis there a torrent of the netbook remix? I'm at a 2 day download right now22:33
invernizzimanila1: try killall pulseaudio;pulseaudio -v22:33
ais523reinis: see topic22:33
WS|ThermalDiDiUp: I'm not, lol.22:33
Flare183wiredfool: Yes there is, I think22:33
victorhzsquareplusc: and, in other computers i does not happen22:33
dabblegohi is it possible to have some software, that is so outdated that it only causes problems, from the repositories?22:33
wiredfoolFlare183: it22:33
pochiais523: nothing weird ...22:33
ikoniareinis: can you please get a grip on your language please.22:33
WS|ThermalDiDiUp: 9.04 looks really good, but I'm waiting for 9.10 because of Btr-fs and ext4.22:33
zsquarepluscvictorh: note that some server refuse connections from localhost. you try to connect from other servers?22:33
KemayoActionParsnip: Disconnecting the network didn't help for forcing the installer to not fetch files from the network. It just hung on trying to download 'em.22:33
wiredfoolFlare183: ti's not in the normal places22:33
fizkmanpoole: actually, use "Software Sources" program. It has a "Choose best server"  feature22:33
Flare183wiredfool: That's weird22:33
WS|Thermalooh. new logon looks sweet.22:33
ais523pochi: you could try clicking on the terminal and pressing control-C, that often shakes it up a bit, it can leave you with a slightly broken system but synaptic can fix that later22:33
wiredfoolFlare183: yep22:33
ActionParsnipKemayo: i think theres a command you can fire to make it stop, let me check22:33
Snapplight guys. at the risk of sounding cripplingly stupid- should i upgrade to jaunty?22:34
aprilharejoin #ubuntu-release-party22:34
ais523Snappl: yes if you're on intrepid atm, maybe if you stuck with hardy22:34
Flare183Snappl: Yes, but not right now22:34
pochiais523: cool, that fixed it :)22:34
victorhzsquareplusc: yes, i tried. in other servers the connection worked... =/22:34
Snapplight22:34
Shortguy109invernizzi: dean@jim:~$ arecord -d 10 -D hw:0,0 -f cd .wav Recording WAVE '.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo^CAborted by signal Interrupt...dean@jim:~$ aplay hw*22:34
Shortguy109hw*: No such file or directory22:34
* pochi dances. ty ais523 22:34
Shortguy109didn't work :o22:34
ais523pochi: you'll want to open up synaptic from the menus and choose fix broken packages from the menus afterwards, just in case22:34
WS|ThermalDoes 9.04 have Firefox 3 or Firefox 3.1?22:34
invernizzimanila1: I noticed you misspelled the command. sudo adduser bimbim pulse-access;sudo adduser bimbim pulse-rt22:35
WS|Thermalor... 3.5, as its now called. :P22:35
pochiais523: aye!22:35
ais523WS|Thermal: 3.0.822:35
victorhzsquareplusc: i was wondering if i should remove everything of vncserver, and try to restart the config of remote desktop22:35
invernizzishortguy109: it should have created a .wav file. try aplay *.wav22:35
ipodman715of course new update for it 3.0.9 :)22:35
nordchanasaki: the company google bought is Marratech22:35
WS|Thermalais523: Any reason why it didn't drop with 3.1 beta 3?22:35
lakedenmanmy /etc/environment file is only working when I source it. when I am root, I have access to all paths, but as a regular user I don't see my new path added I added to the file22:35
WS|Thermalais523: Although the lack of plugins at the moment is a problem.22:35
weather15What is the md5 checksum of ubuntu 9.04 Desktop 32bit?22:35
Shortguy109invernizzi: no such file or directory22:35
RizRhi22:36
RoyallWoah, Failed to Upgrade22:36
RoyallFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python-pylibacl/python-pylibacl_0.4.0-2ubuntu2_i386.deb Unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com http: [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]22:36
RoyallAnd many other lines like that22:36
RizRflash-nonfree 8.04, 8.10, and now 9.04 haven't been able to put youtube vids fullscreen. current version for flash is 1022:36
ikoniaRoyall: yes, repos are busy22:36
LjLRoyall: it's release day. the mirrors are slow, and sometimes down.22:36
RizRany ideas?22:36
victorhzsquareplusc: oh, i runned the apt-get autoremove and some vnc was removed. maybe it can work now...22:36
sebsebsebweather15: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/MD5SUMS22:37
RizRoh yea, browser is firefox22:37
mrwesRoyall, repos are screaming today22:37
victorhzsquareplusc: i'll try22:37
fizkLOL, I went from 30kb/s to 800Kb/s !!! by changing the mirror server22:37
ais523Royall: us.archive.ubuntu.com is the main server for the US, it will be /very/ overloaded at the moment because today's release day, most likely you just couldn't get a connection to it because the internet was overloaded around there22:37
magnetronRoyall→ the US mirrors are among the lowest quality ones22:37
invernizzishortguy: ok, then do like this: mkdir /tmp/test; cd /tmp/test; arecord ......    and then aplay *22:37
the_dark_warriowhy does ubuntu menu gets screwed whenever the resolution of the screen changes?22:37
NalfThat's because the internet in the US sucks.22:37
weather15Thanks sebsebseb22:37
sebsebsebweather15: no problem22:37
nightrid3rweather15: 66fa77789c7b8ff63130e5d5a272d67b  ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso22:37
ikoniaNalf: no it's not - the servers are just busy22:37
ipodman715dl it from s korea or something :P22:37
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mrwesNalf, that was intelligently said22:37
ActionParsnipKemayo: i think there is a process that runs, if you check   ps -ef | less    you may find something suspect22:38
invernizziNalf: italy is doing good now22:38
magnetronikonia→ the other mirrors seems to be able to handly it22:38
Shortguy109invernizzi: lots of ? marks are coming up22:38
Shortguy109invernizzi: do i press ctrl c/22:38
Shortguy109?*22:38
invernizziShortguy10922:38
invernizziyes22:38
Nalfikonia: Take us internet speed and compare it with the speed in other countries.. france, england, JAPAN, korea.. we lose.22:38
Nalfikonia: Our residential internet sucks. Fact:P22:39
Shortguy109invernizzi: says no such file or directory22:39
victorhzsquareplusc:no, it does not work.22:39
invernizzishortguy109: cd /tmp/test; arecord -d 10 -D hw:0,0 -f cd .wav ; aplay *22:39
Yossi_you can take a slightly messed up download and use bittorrent to fix/ finish it22:39
racecar56the ubuntu archive is -STILL- dead?22:39
invernizzishortguy109: the ? are probably caused by a misunderstanding22:39
triciensHello!22:39
racecar56what's wrong?22:39
racecar56triciens, hi22:39
joaopintoafter a crash my boot is stopped on a "ACPI: Checking for initramfs for custom DSDT", any ideas ?22:39
LjLnothing is wrong. it's *release day*. everyone is hammering on the mirrors.22:39
lakedenmanin essence, it seems the /etc/environment file is not being sourced when I log in as a regular user22:40
Shortguy109invernizzi: i put in cd /tmp/test; arecord -d 10 -D hw:0,0 -f cd .wav ; aplay * and it says it's recording i think22:40
tricienshi racecar56. my first time using pidgin22:40
istvanhey, for some reason changing permissions seems to be having issues in nautilus, so from the terminal how do I change the owner of a folder and all of it's contents to istvan?22:40
Shortguy109invernizzi: ah it said no such file or directory22:40
racecar56triciens, i dont like pidgin with irc, i like xchat22:40
sebsebsebtriciens: Konversation :)22:40
Nosferaxpidgin irc is really not so great22:40
Nosferaxxchat ftw22:40
racecar56triciens, yeah konversation is pretty good to22:40
racecar56xchat ftw is right22:41
triciensracecar56, okay. Well I'm just glad to be able to get in here22:41
racecar56triciens, k22:41
strangeseraphComing to you from 9.04!22:41
sebsebsebracecar56: no  Konversation ftw is right :)22:41
triciensi have just installed 9.0422:41
mnki can't play any wma files22:41
deanykonversation is kde.. unless it does something xchat dont, i`ll stay22:41
strangeseraphWorks smooth as silk guys. :) Great fast install!22:41
* Nosferax flames22:41
racecar56sebsebseb, i do gnome, thats why22:41
sebsebsebmnk: you need to install the codecs22:41
RoyallIs there an easier way to just upgrade? (like, a torrent for upgrading)22:41
nordcNosferax: which client do you think is great/22:41
racecar56sebsebseb, even though konversation is pretty good to22:41
sebsebsebmnk: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras takes care of most of the propritary stuff22:41
victorhzsquareplusc: do you know where the config files of remote desktop are hidden?22:41
racecar56i like xchat the best22:41
mnksebastien, how? i tried to search but it won't work22:41
strangeseraphI like xchat best too :322:41
triciensJust installed 9.04. I have a problem when I try to logout. Does anyone feel like helping me?22:41
invernizzishortguy109: my fault: this works: cd /tmp/test; arecord -d  -D hw:0,0 -f cd .wav ; aplay *22:41
blue-frog_nordc: torrent the dvd and upgrade from it22:42
invernizzimanila109: are you still there?22:42
Nosferaxnordc, xchat does the trick for me22:42
racecar56ive been using xchat scince i first used irc (jan 2009, never was interested until then)22:42
sebsebsebtriciens: you mean you can't ctrl alt backspace?22:42
mnksebsebseb, i already have that package newest version instaslled22:42
Nosferaxsimple, configurable22:42
zsquarepluscvictorh: they are in the gnome registry, run gconf-editor22:42
picca-xchat for me 222:42
* deany is glad he used a daily iso 2 days before to install to save all this slow nonsense22:42
racecar56triciens, sudo dontzap -d22:42
gartral2ok, will the Big Jump break any costom programs, or not play well with programs not installed from official repos??22:42
nordcNosferax: i find chatzilla quite good for my needs22:42
blue-frog_sebsebseb: ctrl alt back is diasbled in jaunty22:42
mrwesgnome registry?22:42
mrwesheh22:42
Nosferaxyeah, that must be nice as well22:42
* sebsebseb xchat is popular with newbies, but their are better clients, end of22:42
racecar56triciens, may have to install dontzap first22:42
Nosferaxi like the idea of separating my stuff tho22:42
* racecar56 likes xchat the most22:43
Shortguy109invernizzi: says it's recording22:43
Nosferaxbrowser browses22:43
picca-sebastien, irssi is nice22:43
sebsebsebblue-frog_: I know, but that guy  maybe didn't know22:43
* racecar56 typed /me22:43
tricienssebsebseb, I mean when I click Log Out I get a black screen with white text and a series of checks proceed, but then nothing happens22:43
invernizzishortguy109: CTRL+C22:43
sebsebsebpicca-: yep22:43
racecar56irssi is good when it comes to cmd22:43
racecar56xchat is good for gui22:43
mnksebsebseb, i already have that package newest version instaslled22:43
zsquarepluscvictorh: then head to /desktop/gnome/remote_access in gconf-editor22:43
greencookieirssi ftw :D22:43
racecar56ya22:43
mnksebsebseb, it tries to search for the codecs but finds nothing22:43
karimhi22:43
Shortguy109invernizzi: it's playing it but i can't hear anything22:43
sebsebsebirc client talk | ot22:43
picca-i have both xchat aand irssi installed22:43
BeldingCan I install Xubuntu 9.04 alongside Ubuntu 8.10 and have them share the same /home?22:43
racecar56same22:43
sebsebseb!ot  |  irc client talk22:43
ubottuirc client talk: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!22:43
racecar56Belding, yes22:44
mnkanyone else know22:44
mnk?22:44
invernizziShortguy109: did the mic work in intrepid?22:44
Shortguy109invernizzi: what's intrepid :o22:44
gartral2ok, will the Big Jump break any costom programs, or not play well with programs not installed from official repos??22:44
deanythe only thing stopped me usin chatzilla was, havin multiple channels open and it showing every post/whatever I had in every channel, whatever channel i was in,. when I pressed "up"22:44
mnkmy totem tries to fine the codecs but it doesn't find anything for wma files22:44
Beldingracecar56: cool, thanks. that's just done during that patitioning?22:44
mnkpls help! :)22:44
zsquarepluscBelding: you can even install both at the same time and select with desktop to use at login ;-)22:44
invernizzishortguy: did the mic ever worked in linux?22:44
Nosferaxinvernizzi, works for me22:44
Shortguy109invernizzi: yes it did, since i got 9.04 it hasn't22:44
deanyleast xchat only shows what ive said in that channel22:44
RoyallCan I upgrade Ubuntu from a ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso disc?22:44
karimis there a way through debconf dpk or apt, or whatever, since they know what files config files are installed since they can update them, to save the config files as a backup file. the files in /etc/ and /var I mean, and be able to call a particular applications settings and to restore them22:44
ipodman715no22:44
sebsebseb!ot |  deany22:44
ubottudeany: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!22:44
karim?22:44
wwarriorwho chooses the name of the ubuntu code names ?22:45
wwarriorwho chooses ubuntu code names ?22:45
andrew[andrboot]@ Royall yes22:45
Beldingzsquareplusc: i'll try it, thanks22:45
invernizzishortguy109: intrepid is the old ubuntu, like this is jaunty22:45
mnksebseb? any thing?22:45
rskiwwarrior: the developers22:45
sebsebsebwwarrior: Mark Shuttleworth I think, the founder of Ubuntu22:45
gartral2ok, will the Big Jump break any costom programs, or not play well with programs not installed from official repos??22:45
mnksebsebseb, any thing?22:45
LjL!ot22:45
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!22:45
strangeseraphthe only problem: I forgot I had custom fonts so now everything looks weird. But I'm gonna try the free fonts that comes with it and see if I can fix that22:45
invernizzishortguy109: what is your computer brand?22:45
Nosferaxubuntu servers overloaded22:45
Nosferax:D22:45
chelzandrew[andrboot]: how?22:45
tricienssebsebseb, and anyone else who is interested: I made a thread on the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1134349 There's a picture and everything!22:45
Nosferaxcan't even install a 1mb package22:45
RoyallSo, it would be a better idea to torrent the .iso, burn it, and upgrade?22:45
andrew[andrboot]pop the cd in while ur in ubuntu22:45
Shortguy109invernizzi: inspiron 1525 dell22:45
andrew[andrboot]Royall clean installs are always safest22:46
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strangeseraphoh there we go, I changed it to 'best shapes'22:46
Royallandrew[andrboot]: I'd rather keep my data though22:46
ais523gartral2: if you installed from any repo, even an unofficial one, it shouldn't work too badly; if you installed by hand in /usr/local, it should work but might not; if you installed by hand in /usr, it will almost certianly break22:46
paddy_hi22:46
dotblankRoyall: Clean installs are the best and getting via torrent is the most lag free22:46
invernizzishortguy109: I  supposed it was a dell. there is an open issue with dell mic.22:46
chelzRoyall: i know for sure that mounting an alternate iso cab be used as a source of packages, i'm not sure about the desktop though22:46
paddy_hello22:46
victorhzsquareplusc: everything is ok.. =/22:46
Shortguy109invernizzi: but it's worked before :o not on 9.04 tho22:46
greencookieanyone else have wireless connectivity issues in Jauty?22:46
mnkanyone know how to install codecs in jaunty. everything was working in intrepid but after upgrade, it won't play wma files and it tries to search for codecs but finds now... please help22:47
greencookiejaunty*22:47
triciensIs this place always so crazy? Or is it just cause jaunty came out today?22:47
ActionParsnipgreencookie: none at all22:47
magciusRoyall, why not do update-manager -d?22:47
Alinonwelp it's official flash it fugged for many users on this upgrade - upgrade with caution22:47
chelztriciens: jaunty22:47
ais523triciens: not quite this bad normally!22:47
Royallmagcius: servers are clogged22:47
triciensty22:47
invernizzishortguy109: yes, it's pulse audio related. you can either uninstall pulseaudio, or22:47
sebsebsebtriciens: no picture on the thread22:47
victorhzsquareplusc: i'll keep trying22:47
RizRgot a lingering issue with firefox-flash-plugin on ubuntu. it doesn't play youtube on fullscreen. just opens the vid in slightly bigger size and makes rest of the screen black. anyone?22:47
triciensroger that seb, I will look into it22:47
ActionParsnipgreencookie: what wifi chip are you using?22:47
Shortguy109invernizzi: earlier i tried gettin it working and i uninstalled pulseaudio and put in esound22:47
zsquarepluscvictorh:  are you sude that it's not just the client that fails? have you tried the (thight)vncviewer command line tool?22:47
magciusRoyall, try this22:47
Alinoni even tried purging flash and reinstalling - still nothing hehe22:47
andrew[andrboot]heh woops22:47
mnkany little help will be appreciated from anyone who knows22:47
gartral2ais523: everything except a custom dev environment is installed via packages...22:47
khuntAlinon I had to remove the open source flash and install adobe flash to fix that problem22:47
magciusRoyall, System->Administration->Software Sources22:47
dotblankAlinon: Are running 64bit?22:47
greencookieActionParsnip: Boardcom b43xx22:47
andrew[andrboot]wifi died. @ Royall personally i don't upgradei do clean installs. hwoever i will be runninga "upgrade" test tonight22:48
victorhzsquareplusc: hmm, no22:48
ActionParsnipAlinon: 64bit or 32bit ubuntu?22:48
greencookieActionParsnip: nvm it just connected..darn thing is unreliable :D22:48
chelzmnk: might be because the servers are overloaded and you still have updates to install22:48
victorhzsquareplusc: how do i do it?22:48
ActionParsnip!broadcom > greencookie22:48
ubottugreencookie, please see my private message22:48
Alinonkhunt: i noticed icedtea was *kind of being used in firefox, how'd you remove it?22:48
Royallmagcius: k22:48
blue-frog_Royall: torrent a dvd iso or alternate cd iso; mount it in /media/cdrom and follow the instructions22:48
magciusRoyall, change Download from: to Other..., and hit Select Best Server22:48
mnkchelz, i have already updated everything22:48
invernizzishortguy109: I had the same issue. there is a workaround here ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/275998?comments=all).  let me explain22:48
magciusRoyall, this will ping all the mirrors and give you the one that's not under pressure.22:48
mnkchelz, do i need to activate some other software source?22:49
Royallmagcius: doing it22:49
jpnubdoes anyone know anything about  NVIDIA-XCONFIG -A ?22:49
chelzmnk: you could check the log of the player you're using22:49
tricienssebsebseb, picture should work now!22:49
khuntsudo apt-get remove swfdec22:49
dotblankjpnub: What do you need to use it for?22:49
ZakBainHey everyone. Could you please answer one simple question  How many hours did you sleep last nightI need it for my statistics homework22:49
DeadPandaDoes anyone have WPA authentication working in Jaunty on an MSI Wind?22:49
ActionParsnipjpnub: you using jaunty?22:49
LjL!offtopic | ZakBain22:49
ubottuZakBain: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!22:49
dotblankZakBain: 1222:49
macmanguys .. trying to get sounds working again but for some reason it isn't working22:49
mnkchelz, it is trying to find the codecs but says it cant find them after searching22:49
nightrid3rZakBain: 522:49
macmanalsamixer has everything up22:49
myk_robinsongot a VPN question.. While connected to another network using VPN, should I still be able to browse the internet?22:49
LjL!offtopic22:49
blue-frog_DeadPanda: do you know the chipset of your card22:49
invernizzishortguy109: first, put this in ~/.asoundrc22:50
andrew[andrboot]ZakBain, 622:50
DeadPandablue-frog_, rt286022:50
magcius!ot | LjL22:50
ubottuLjL: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!22:50
jpnubdotblank: when one of my graphics cards is plugged in it won't let me startx22:50
Shortguy109invernizzi: okay22:50
chelzmnk: are you using the medibuntu repos?22:50
Yossi_ZakBain: 522:50
Alinonkhunt: wierd said it couldn't find swfdec22:50
invernizzishortguy109: this meaning http://pastebin.com/m3616bb2b22:50
dotblankmyk_robinson: it depends if your default route is being sent through that connection22:50
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mnkchelz, yes i believe so22:50
jpnubActionParsnip: Yes22:50
ActionParsnipmyk_robinson: if you tell the system to use your local internet, yes22:50
DeadPandablue-frog_, it can list available networks okay, NetworkManager/WPA supplicant are being strange22:50
sebsebsebtriciens: lame it wants me to sign up on the forum to see it.   heh  5 years and I am still not a memeber of that forum22:50
dotblankjpnub: is it an nvidia card?22:50
james12345how can I find out why my USB wireless device won't connect to my network in Linux?22:50
chelzmnk: did you update your source list of those? iirc they have repos per ubuntu version22:50
blue-frog_DeadPanda: ther's a bug with it. you surely tries to cnnect to tkip+paes22:50
jpnubdotblank: Yes both of them are22:50
myk_robinsonActionParsnip: how do I configure Network Manager to still allow me to use my local internet?22:50
ActionParsnipjpnub: i dont think nvidia-xconfig is needed in jaunty22:50
Shortguy109invernizzi: typing in ~/.asoundrc didn't work22:50
DeadPandablue-frog_, surely == should?22:50
dotblankjpnub: you have 2? sli?22:51
jpnubdotblank: 6200 pci22:51
riohi, i can't enable desktop effects with my intel card anymore, and the drivers dialogue doesnt show any additional drivers to activate22:51
blue-frog_DeadPanda: no surely22:51
goukiAnyone ever had a problem with auto-login enabled on GDM?22:51
ArnosHey, I'm updating to 9.04 and my download has stopped, what should I do?  just restart it?22:51
tricienssebsebseb: lol...22:51
DeadPandablue-frog_, let me just check22:51
blue-frog_DeadPanda: certainly22:51
Shortguy109invernizzi: bash: /home/dean/.asoundrc: No such file or directory22:51
chelzArnos: use the torrents when at all possible22:51
zonkedArnos, It takes a while and just looks frozen.22:51
magciusRoyall, are you in #xkcd-compsci?22:51
LjLArnos: why aren't you using the torrents?22:51
nightrid3rArnos: server are overloaded just wait for it to finish22:51
Royallmagcius: am now22:51
magciusRoyall, ... on Foonetic22:51
dotblankjpnub: ok... try running this "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.bak && sudo nvidia-xconfig"22:51
sebsebsebtriciens: yeah  Ubuntu  worked nicely for me  most of the time,  and  if I needed help a few people on MSN, and well IRC.  so didn't have a reason to join the forum22:51
invernizzishortguy109: no, type kate ~/.asoundrc  (if I remember well, kate is the "notepad" equivalent for kde)22:52
myk_robinsonActionParsnip: is that the Method setting under IPv4 settings? I have two options, Automatic(VPN) and Automatic (VPN) addresses only22:52
Arnoshow do you use the torrents?22:52
DeadPandablue-frog_, hmm, okay, can you point me to those settings in NetworkManager then?  I only see options for WPA/WPA2 Personal or Enterprise22:52
invernizzishortguy109: it should be an empty file22:52
Shortguy109invernizzi: ah yes forgot lol22:52
victorhanyway, thank you zsquareplusc. i will try it22:52
scythdebian 4ever :)22:52
dotblankjpnub: do that with both plugged in22:52
sebsebsebArnos: what do you want to download? 9.04?22:52
mnkchelz, what does iirc mean? :)22:52
LjLArnos: type /topic, open the last site listed, and click on the desired download.22:52
chelzmnk: if i recall correctly22:52
mnkaah22:52
Arnosyeah, I want to update to 9.0422:52
Shortguy109invernizzi: yup it's empty22:52
ActionParsnipmyk_robinson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient   read that about 75% down22:52
victorhzsquareplusc: what i need to do a connection between two computers?22:52
dotblankjpnub: Be advised that some bioses will pitch an irq conflict so you may want to investigate your bios22:52
blue-frog_DeadPanda: the only way for me is to use an older driver22:53
victorhzsquareplusc: maybe it's missing some packages, or something.22:53
myk_robinson@#!!, this forum got real busy all of a sudden... hard to keep up with everything22:53
DeadPandablue-frog_, ah pants, any debs  up on ppa's?22:53
DeadPandablue-frog_, or dkms packages anywhere?22:53
ActionParsnipmyk_robinson: thats why we highlight your name22:53
ArnosLjL: I want to update from 8.10 though, will the torrent work for that?22:53
myk_robinsonbless you!22:53
jpnubdotblank: Yes ok i'll try that thanks22:53
chelzmyk_robinson: all i see is blond, brunette, redhead..22:53
BRP226 /server irc.what.cd (62.233.138.180:3128)22:53
LjLArnos: no. i suggest just waiting tomorrow.22:53
invernizzishortguy109: then kate /etc/pulse/default.pa22:53
ActionParsnipmyk_robinson: you should return the favour22:54
Shortguy109invernizzi: ok22:54
james12345my wireless USB is listed when I type ifconfig, and I have opened "Network" and set the right essid and passkey, but I can't ping the router22:54
myk_robinsonActionParsnip: will do, sorry22:54
debaserhi22:54
invernizzishortguy109: and substitute everything with this: http://pastebin.com/m2e76db8222:54
ActionParsnipinvernizzi: that will need kdesudo or gksudo22:54
ArnosLjL: Thanks for the tip22:54
victorhzsquareplusc: i'm trying to connect to my own computer, but it does not work22:54
paradizelosthowdy all22:54
ActionParsnipmyk_robinson: np man ;)22:54
zsquarepluscvictorh: the built in desktop sharing might refuse connections form the local computer yes (as it is sharing the screen you are looking at). the vncserver on the other hand should allow these22:54
tricienssebsebseb: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37692704@N07/3468747507/22:54
dotblankArnos: I would update from the internet... but downloading the alternate install cd should let you update as well22:54
invernizziActionParsnip: yes, forgot to mention22:54
leejongwookQ : what is checksum for ubuntu-9.04.i386 ?22:54
debasermy pendrive scrambles the song's order, how do I fix that?22:55
invernizziShortguy109:actually is sudo  kate /etc/pulse/default.pa22:55
ActionParsnipleejongwook: do you want the checksum, or do you want to know what it is for?22:55
mnkchelz, yes everything is updated i just checked - and i have medibuntu22:55
jpnubleejongwook: Go to the download page on http://www.ubuntu.com22:55
paradizelosti'm trying too get my Startech CB2S650 2-port RS232 card working, dmesg sees when i plug it in, but i can't access the port with minicom, can anyone help?22:55
Shortguy109invernizzi: do i just leave the asoundrc thing empty?22:55
nightrid3rleejongwook:  66fa77789c7b8ff63130e5d5a272d67b  ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso22:55
blue-frog_DeadPanda: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/339891  find the 1.71 deb link in the post and install it. you need to delete the exisiting rt2860sta.ko before installing the deb22:55
dotblankleejongwook: calculating right now22:55
invernizzino, you put this http://pastebin.com/m3616bb2b inside22:55
leejongwook66fa77789c7b8ff63130e5d5a272d67b <= this is what i wanted, thanks :)22:55
blue-frog_DeadPanda: and reboot22:55
mnkchelz, it says it can't find the requested plugin: Windows Media Audio decoder22:55
dotblankleejongwook: dfc6520812b612bc15b62a4d4cab833a22:55
gr3g97hi22:55
triciensThis is what happens when I try to logout in 9.04: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37692704@N07/3468747507/22:55
chelzmnk: you have the jaunty medibuntu repos?22:56
LjLleejongwook: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes22:56
chelzmnk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding%20the%20Repositories22:56
leejongwookLjL: Thanks :)22:56
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hatter243Whilest scrolling rapidly up and down my monitors "blink" they both turn off and back on. I've nailed it down to only when I'm scrolling whether it be by mouse wheel or by grasping the bar and dragging it up and down. Thoughts? Ideas?22:56
mnkchelz, yes i did that but for some weird reason i can't see medibuntu in my sources file22:56
Lyth1Anyone know of a gnutella client?22:57
fizkhey guys, this partial upgrade quitting problem isn't related to server overload...22:57
paddy_hello i am stuck22:57
Shortguy109invernizzi: okay do i just leave the asoundrc empty?22:57
ais523paddy_: what are you stuck on?22:57
fizkit quits way to fast, right after clicking "upgrade"/ok22:57
racecar56Lyth1, icewire? i dont know if i even got the name right....22:57
nightrid3rlyte: amule22:57
LjLleejongwook: err, actually http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/MD5SUMS , since UbuntuHashes doesn't have the new ones yet...22:57
chelzmnk: could try to go in by hand and edit it22:57
paddy_a msn messenger ?22:57
Lyth1Frostwire?22:57
racecar56amsn22:57
racecar56Lyth1, ya22:57
racecar56Lyth1, thanks22:57
paddy_ok22:57
Lyth1yup22:57
Arnosbtw, why isn't the upgrade it self a torrent it would sure ease server load22:57
chelzlyte: frostwire22:57
invernizzishortguy109:shortguy109: to check everything is ok, do "cat ~/.asou22:57
mnkok doing that now chelz22:57
chelzArnos: there is an apt-p2p22:57
myk_robinsonActionParsnip: i must be missing something. I just tested again, when I connect to the VPN, i can ping everything internally at my church, but cannot get anything from the internet to respond. I have the link pulled up, but admittedly, I dont think I understand. Must be a setting in NM that I'm missing22:58
invernizzishortguy109: no, you put this http://pastebin.com/m3616bb2b inside22:58
lytechelz: do you mean someone else?22:58
chelzlyte: ah sry22:58
Flare183Arnos: Because most people use apt-get22:58
racecar56like me22:58
invernizzishorguy109: don't consider " shortguy109:shortguy109: to check everything is ok, do "cat ~/.asou", I copied the wrong message22:58
dwarrelwhen i want to update (using cd, since download is so slow) but when i try to upgrade with cd it for some reason still tries to download from the internet, even if i selected no netwerk use. Also when i disconnect internet cable he just gets in a loop when fetshing files untill it crashes with a report it coudnt download some packages.22:59
DeadPandablue-frog_, thanks, testing that package now22:59
Shortguy109invernizzi: okay :)22:59
mnkchelz, i have deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ jaunty free non-free now and it still wont search - i did update22:59
paddy_how do i make visural effects work?22:59
paddy_visual22:59
invernizzishortguy109: when you have finished,  to check everything is ok, do "cat ~/.asoundrc|wc; cat /etc/pulse/default.pa|wc" and tell me the output22:59
fizkhow do I clear the upgrade-manager cache?22:59
zsquarepluscmyk_robinson: the routing table may point to the wrong gateway. that is if oyu need the VPN to reach the internet, the default route should be some machine within that VPN22:59
mnkchelz, what does hit mean when updating?23:00
ais523paddy_: System | Preferences | Appearances | Visual Effects23:00
* mattwj2002 stretches out in the new Ubuntu 9.04 64-bit edition23:00
mattwj2002:D23:00
leejongwooknightrid3r: thanks for hash :) matched perfectly23:00
cllaudyuhoe can i save nvidia settings?23:00
chelzmnk: it means it downloaded okay23:00
badfish69cllaudyu: nvidia-settings23:00
badfish69you have to run it as root23:00
badfish69and save to x config23:00
Shortguy109invernizzi: it shows 6 numbers23:00
cllaudyuyea and is not saving after reboot...23:00
kungpowzasudo nvidia-settings23:00
drinkycrowno23:00
drinkycrowgksudo23:00
chelzmnk: it grabs the lists of repos and checks them for changes, hit means the list was grabbed successfully23:01
triciensis anyone here an old, wise Ubuntu expert?23:01
invernizzishortguy109: write the first column here23:01
dwarrelwhen i want to update (using cd, since download is so slow) but when i try to upgrade with cd it for some reason still tries to download from the internet, even if i selected no netwerk use. Also when i disconnect internet cable he just gets in a loop when fetshing files untill it crashes with a report it coudnt download some packages.23:01
FloodBot2!netsplit23:01
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit23:01
ikoniatriciens: just ask your question23:01
kungpowzacant save to the xorg unless your sudo23:01
dwarrelwhen i want to update (using cd, since download is so slow) but when i try to upgrade with cd it for some reason still tries to download from the internet, even if i selected no netwerk use. Also when i disconnect internet cable he just gets in a loop when fetshing files untill it crashes with a report it coudnt download some packages.23:01
tricienswhat just happened?23:01
myk_robinsonzsquareplusc: May have found something. There is an option under Routers for "Use this connection only for its internal resources"23:01
nightrid3rtriciens: i'm old23:01
Shortguy109invernizzi: 20, 45, 359 across the way23:01
Z3ro3X_I'm running 9.04 and every time I empty the trash can my system does serious hard lockup.  What's up with that?23:01
mnkchelz, so it hit the medibuntu one23:01
mnkchelz, but still not finding the codec23:01
Shortguy109invernizzi: 128, 561 and 4490 on the second row23:01
ubuntuhello i have a question23:02
mattwj2002hi ubuntu23:02
ActionParsnipZ3ro3X_: check you have full access over your trash folder23:02
mattwj2002!ask | ubuntu23:02
triciensyou're called ubuntu, ubuntu23:02
ubottuubuntu: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)23:02
triciens?23:02
ActionParsnipZ3ro3X_: i'd also fsck the partition that holds your trsh folder23:02
myk_robinsonnope, that didnt work23:02
mrwesheh....b00m!23:02
ubuntuok sorry23:02
mnkchelz, the weird thing is that mp3 files work fine23:02
invernizzishortguy109: double check if you have copied all /etc/pulse/default.pa, it should be 136 lines, not 12823:02
mattwj2002no worries23:02
zonkedZ3ro3X_, I had to unplufgexternal  monitor from laptop  - looked locked up, but eventually reset with ctrl alt del or bkspc23:02
mnkchelz, and also that w32codecs are the newest version23:02
drinkycrowubuntu: we've no time for questions23:02
drinkycrowno time at all23:02
loomshello. i am trying to install hjsplitlx.tar.gz, but have only been using ubuntu for a couple of weeks. can anybody please tell me how to do it? thank you!23:03
Z3ro3X_ActionParsnip, I made / ext4 on a fresh install but converted /home  does that make any difference?23:03
chelzmnk: you might check if other media players on your computer can play wma23:03
psychici need some help configuring my display to fill the screen23:03
cllaudyui try to save nvidia settings but i get this Unable to remove old X config backup file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'.23:03
zsquarepluscmyk_robinson: if you know the gatweay IP numbers etc, you can have a look at the output of the "route" command to check the current settings23:03
drinkycrowlooms: you don't need it23:03
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ex_machinaThis is probably a really easy fix, but I'm only getting sound through headphones on my laptop right now. I'm guessing it's a problem with Ubuntu auto-detecting headphones incorrectly. Does anybody know how to fix this?23:03
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ikoniaubuntu: please feel free to ask your question23:03
ActionParsnipZ3ro3X_: ext4 is a bit flakey, and can lose data with hard resets23:03
ais523cllaudyu: are you accessing it as root?23:03
mnkchelz, mplayer can - hmm so how comes totem can't?23:03
drinkycrowlooms: the 'cat' command in terminal will do the same thing as hjsplit23:03
Flare183I hate netsplits23:03
ActionParsnipZ3ro3X_: i'd run an fsck in a live cd session23:03
cllaudyuas root yes and still getting this error23:04
chelzmnk: i am not sure.23:04
Shortguy109invernizzi: ah yes it's 136 now23:04
invernizzishortguy109: ok, now " sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart; killall pulsuadio,start-pulseaudio-x11"23:04
psychichow can i adjust my display size???23:04
ubuntu i was able to install 9.04 ubuntu onto my jump drive "but it seems that it just image the cd instead of installing it  when i try to install it .It keeps showing my 500g but i wanna use my jump drive  to use Ubuntu?23:04
loomshow do i use the 'cat' command? :(23:04
ActionParsnipcllaudyu: you need to run: gksudo nvidia-settings23:04
ActionParsniplooms: what do you want to do?23:04
Z3ro3X_ActionParsnip, Where is trash can files so I can check their permissions?23:04
cllaudyuok thanks23:04
ActionParsnip!trash23:04
ubottuThe location of Trash has changed since 8.04, it is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash | Looking for the trash in previous versions: ~/.Trash23:04
chelzex_machina: right click on the speaker icon that controls your volume, click on "open volume" then go to the switches tab and see if anything is checked23:04
mnkanyone else know why mplayer can play wma files but totem can;t?23:04
drinkycrowyeah23:04
mnkanyone else know why mplayer can play wma files but totem can't?23:04
mnksorry23:04
drinkycrowit was ActionParsnip that said my audigy was to blame23:04
Z3ro3X_LOL!23:04
Z3ro3X_Never mind.23:05
loomsi want to join 4 avi files into 123:05
CydeWeyslooms: You need a video-editing program.23:05
mrweslooms, use avimerge23:05
Shortguy109invernizzi: pulsuadio,start-pulseaudio-x11: no process killed23:05
ActionParsnipcllaudyu: xorg.conf and all the files in there are not user writable so gksudo (gnome) or kdesudo (KDE) is needed to write the changes23:05
chelzlooms: mencoder could do that also23:05
mnkthanks chelz btw for all ur help - much appreciated23:05
mrweslooms, run it from the terminal -- works very nicely23:05
drinkycrow<cllaudyu> as root yes and still getting this error23:05
mnkwould anyone here know why mplayer can play wma files but totem can't?23:05
invernizzishortguy109: I mistyped. killall pulseaudio; start-pulseaudio-x1123:05
n3tcr4shgood evening from spain23:05
loomsthe problem is that the extensions are .avi.001, .avi.002, .avi.003 and .avi.004 and avimerge only merges the first file23:05
chelzmnk: you might try restarting, it's a longshot but it might work23:05
whatteyis it possible to upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 ? or 8.04 > 8.10 > 9.04 ?23:06
chelzmnk: i'm not really familiar with how totem works with codecs though23:06
mrweslooms, it's part of the package transcode23:06
mnkyeah np chelz  - thanks all the same23:06
alex-weejmnk: restart is no use23:06
chelzwhattey: those are all possible, but a fresh install is recommended when possible23:06
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ais523whattey: go via 8.10, the system will be doing the same thing in either case, but having a place to stop in between makes it less risky23:06
TyphCan anyone confirm getting new iPod Shuffles working with ubuntu?23:06
Shortguy109invernizzi: it came up with like 7 lines worth of stuff23:06
drinkycrowlooms: use cat ~/filename.avi.* > ~/output.avi23:06
chelzalex-weej: what could the issue be?23:06
invernizzi2shortguy109: retry "cd /tmp/test; arecord -d  -D hw:0,0 -f cd .wav ; aplay *"23:06
ActionParsniplooms: cp <file 1>+<file2>+<file3> outputfile.avi23:06
mnkalex-weej, what do u think would do the trick? mplayer plays wma files but not totem23:06
dwarrelwhen i want to update (using cd, since download is so slow) but when i try to upgrade with cd it for some reason still tries to download from the internet, even if i selected no netwerk use. Also when i disconnect internet cable he just gets in a loop when fetshing files untill it crashes with a report it coudnt download some packages.23:06
alex-weejmnz, chelz: you can blitz the gstreamer registry if you THINK something's gone wrong. usually hasn't23:06
chelzlooms, drinkycrow: that needs a mencoder line after it to fix the index23:06
aLeSDhi all: I have a probelm with mi wifi : sudo ifconfig wlan0 up23:06
aLeSDSIOCSIFFLAGS: No existe el fichero ó directorio23:06
cdm101looms: how were they split up?23:06
CaneToadWell....jaunty seems to be working well for me after online upgrade... some initial hurdles with the install because the upgrade-manager seems to download http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/ReleaseAnnouncement initially from archive.ubuntu.com irrespective of the contents of sources.list and archive.ubuntu.com is under heavy load, some requests are failing... is it intended to initially download from archive.ubu23:06
aLeSDhelp ?23:06
alex-weejmnk: mplayer and totem use totally different codecs23:07
drinkycrowdamn23:07
drinkycrowthat's true23:07
invernizzi Shortguy109: you'll probably need to logout and login again23:07
loomsok, i'll try it, thanks23:07
alex-weejmnk: what happens when you open in totem?23:07
paddy_i love ubuntu more than vista :D23:07
Shortguy109invernizzi: okay, i'll be back :)23:07
ActionParsnipaLeSD: italliano?23:07
drinkycrowwell23:07
aLeSDActionParsnip: sip23:07
drinkycrowit's been fun23:07
aLeSD:)23:07
paddy_i love ubuntu more than vista :D23:07
chelzdrinkycrow, looms: cat file1.avi file2.avi > newfile.avi     then      mencoder -forceidx -oac copy -ovc copy -o outfile.avi infile.avi23:07
acode_workwill there be a ubuntu 9.04 lts server edition?23:07
KaxNetWUBI bug:  wubi 9.04 rev129 fails on error "writelines() argument must be a sequence of strings"    any solutions??23:07
drinkycrowi might give ubuntu another shot in a year or too23:07
LeChacalhello, i need to recompile gcl because it doesnt have an option enabled in the package i get out of the repository. My question is what is the best way of me doing this, should i download the tarball from the gcl site or from the ubutun package site and compile it, or is there an easier way?23:07
mnkalex-weej, mp3 works fine in totem but not wma, it tries to search for some codecs but then says it can't find any. i have medibuntu installed and updated and i have the w32codecs and nonfree codecs23:07
aLeSDActionParsnip: could u help me ?23:07
chelzdrinkycrow: check out fedora at least23:07
alex-weejcya then drinkycrow23:07
ActionParsnipKaxNet: did you md5 check everything you can?23:08
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ActionParsnipaLeSD: whats wrong?23:08
alex-weejmnk: have you installed the "ubuntu-restricted-extras" package?23:08
ais523LeChacal: if you want to recompile something that's available as a package, get the source package via apt-get source (you don't need to be root to do that)23:08
mnkyes alex-weej23:08
KaxNetiam runnin it on vista 32bit23:08
alex-weejmnk: can you join #gstreamer please?23:08
ais523LeChacal: then do sudo apt-get build-deps for your package, and it'll install all the software needed to compile it23:08
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aLeSDActionParsnip: I'm tring to get up my wlan0 but it gives me a strange error: SIOCSIFFLAGS: No existe el fichero ó directorio23:08
chelzmnk: you might try marking that stuff for reinstall. only thing i can think of23:08
ActionParsnipKaxNet: Did you md5 check the wubi installer and the ISO you downloaded (If it uses the ISO)23:09
mattwj2002man you can tell there was a new ubuntu release today.....apt-get is taking forever to download packages23:09
mattwj2002:)23:09
aLeSDaLeSD: I tried within terminal cause network-manager doesn't work23:09
KaxNetwhta md5 check ?? no i want the wubi to download the iso for me23:09
ActionParsnip!md5 | KaxNet23:09
aLeSD<ActionParsnip>: I tried within terminal cause network-manager doesn't work23:09
ubottuKaxNet: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows23:09
LeChacalais523: ok but i need to enable something with a configure switch, do i still run configure, make, ect when doing this or what?23:10
ActionParsnipKaxNet: the wubi installer also has an MD5 sum to check it is correct23:10
sjzzalxHello! Upgrading from Ibex to Jaunty in Parallels with Parallels Tools installed seems to kill things -- their video driver doesn't work with things, but even after removing xorg.conf, mouse and keyboard no longer function23:10
alex-weejmnk: ?23:10
S11001001What would you guess more (apt-p2p) users have their sources.list pointed to: us.archive.ubuntu.com or archive.ubuntu.com?  The (8.10) install default seems to be us., but mine was set to archive. for some reason23:10
adrian_2002cahi all, I changed my locked screen login a while ago and now I want to revert, but I forget how...I know I edited some files...any help?23:10
ais523LeChacal: yes; if it's a configure switch, you need to give arguments to configure, but the rest is the same23:10
ActionParsnipKaxNet: if what you have downloaded does not match the MD5 expected, it is a useless file23:10
mattwj2002!slow23:10
ubottuThe Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.23:10
S11001001adrian_2002ca: open terminal, type passwd and Enter23:10
sceocan I upgrade an existing Intrepid install using the .ISO?23:11
mnkalex-weej, i tried that just now - no luck  - it still searches for the codec but says it can't find anything for Windows Media Audio decoder23:11
Schuylersceo: only using the alternate ISO23:11
ais523sceo: use the alternate install CD to do that23:11
Schuylernot the desktop ISO23:11
KaxNetthere are no errors on opening , so no checksum problem , the  error is when install23:11
mnkwhat do u reckon alex-weej ?23:11
aLeSDActionParsnip: sorry .. I transale in english : error: SIOCSIFFLAGS: the files or the folder doesn't exist23:11
SchuylerI learned that one today :)23:11
sceoSchuyler / ais523 - just pop it in?23:11
invernizzidean, how did it go?23:11
KaxNetthis bug was reported from 4 users , 2houres ago23:11
ActionParsnipKaxNet: thats not a check, you need to check the installer is ok23:11
Shortguy109invernizzi: im back lol23:11
ais523sceo: yep, I think so23:11
sceothanks ais523, schuyler23:12
adrian_2002caS11001001: sorry, I meant graphical theme of the login on screen lock23:12
alex-weejmnk: run gst-launch-0.10 playbin2 uri="/path/to/the/file.wma"23:12
Lyth1What can I use to convert a 3gp to a an mpeg or an avi23:12
Schuylersceo: that didn't work for me. I had to mount the CDROM (or loopback the ISO) and add the CDROM to my sources.list23:12
alex-weejmnk: and pastebin the output23:12
sceoschuyler; ok good to know... I am comfortable with that23:12
Shortguy109invernizzi: what do i do now ? :o23:12
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jikutyhi, i was just wondering if updating from 8.10 to 9.04 will remove all of my manually installed packages (like virtualbox, opera, etc.)?23:13
invernizzishortguy109: retry "cd /tmp/test; arecord -d  -D hw:0,0 -f cd .wav ; aplay *"23:13
wolterno23:13
wolterjikuty, no.23:13
KaxNetchecksum of wibu is  : 5E6F6ACF2105C366DB2F9727E2A65D0323:13
KaxNetis there something to compare to?23:13
wolterjikuty, the only thing it will do is replace the system fies for new ones23:13
invernizzijikuty: don't worry23:13
DisabledDuckother than fileroller, are there any programs out there to untar a file?23:13
Shortguy109invernizzi: is recording23:13
jikutygreat :)23:13
jikutysounds pretty seamless then. thanks.23:13
ex_machinachelz: Nothing is checked under switches. I can hear sound through headphones, and if I check any of the options there, I can't hear through headphones either23:13
cdm101DisabledDuck: tar23:13
hbekelDisabledDuck: tar23:13
hbekel:)23:13
invernizziShortguy109: ctrl+c to stop23:14
wolterjikuty, are you kidding me? its absolutely seamless :)23:14
VeinorDisabledDuck: tar xvvf from the command line, or xvvzf if it's compressed using zip as well23:14
Shortguy109invernizzi: okay done23:14
invernizzishortguy109: it works?23:14
Shortguy109invernizzi: nothing happened23:14
KaxNetChecksum is ok for wubi23:14
invernizzishortguy109: try "alsamixer -c0" and press TAB23:15
invernizzishortguy109: tell me if you see +50db mic in the lowest row23:15
weather15are there any fast servers to download ubuntu 9.04 from?23:15
Shortguy109invernizzi: i see it23:15
mylesmadnesscan someone help me get internet on my inspiron b130?23:15
CougartenRead Ahead Optimization changed in with the last update. I generated it with the "profile" command in grub. should I keep or should I renew the file?23:15
KaxNetwubi 9.04 rev129 fails on error "writelines() argument must be a sequence of strings"    , any solutions?23:16
woltermylesmadness, what's the problem?23:16
jpnubweather15: get the torrent23:16
SisMidnight_may i ask a question?23:16
cdm101!ask | SisMidnight_23:16
ubottuSisMidnight_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)23:16
mylesmadnesswolter: It won't work. The wireles won't see my internet conection23:16
sceoman I can't even get the *torrent* off ubuntu.com!  :)23:16
anxiolyticHow come when I drag a window, music pauses until I let the window go? This happens only with compiz OFF and with any music player. Happens on Hardy/Intrepid/Jaunty23:16
alex-weejKaxNet: bug. report it23:16
weather15Torremt seems slower because I don't have that many seeds23:16
weather15*torrent23:17
* alex-weej has been seeding all day23:17
Nalfmylesmadness: What kind of wireless card/adapter do you have?23:17
Shortguy109invernizzi: what do i do with it?23:17
mylesmadnessnalf: What would I do to find out?23:17
KaxNetalready reported it23:17
invernizziShortguy109: CTRL+C to close.that is a virtual microphone, that should make your mic volume much higher. try with padsp skype, go to options-> sound and put into the23:17
SisMidnight_ok, thanks....never been a ubuntu user....very complicated for me.....lost everything on my desktop...unable to access web or anything that was on the system when i first received it....is there a system restore like in windows?23:17
* zsquareplusc awards alex-weej a karma point23:17
phixhas it been released yet?23:17
Shortguy109invernizzi: should i turn the volume up on it?23:17
phixyaya23:18
weather15Torrents can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt23:18
theunixgeekWhen I try to boot from my Ubuntu USB drive, I get "Boot Error." I copied the Ubuntu disk image to it with UNetbootin.23:18
invernizzishortguy109: definitely, if it's down (press W to raise23:18
LeChacalais523: i am still waiting for the source to download, but i have another question is it possible to find or see somewhere what options where enabled/disabled when a was package made?23:18
psychiccan anyone tell me how to restore stuff that i erased from the computer23:18
Shortguy109invernizzi: okay :)23:18
wolterdo you see the wifi light indicator on on your pc?23:18
mylesmadnessNalf: Dell Wireless 1370 WLAN MiniPCI Car23:18
Cougartenpsychic: : emptyed the recicle bin?23:19
mylesmadnesscard*\23:19
psychicyea23:19
ais523LeChacal: if you look in debian/rules in the source package, that contains all the rules that Ubuntu used to build the package themselves, which will contain the options used, etc23:19
Shortguy109invernizzi: okay im in options23:19
Cougartenpsychic: : first: dont move or install anything to have a chance23:19
lucaxwhere do i go to configure new notification pop ups?23:19
psychicok23:19
LeChacalais523: thank you23:19
invernizzishortguy109:  go to "sound devices", find the combo box called  "sound in" and put in  the value "ALSABOOST" (should be in the drop down menu)23:19
semiotichow do I make a bootable USB jaunty disk with mac os x?23:19
Guevarasalve23:20
Shortguy109invernizzi: okay done23:20
progre55hi everybody! after the upgrade, ubuntu is not recognizing my video card and running in low-graphics mode. the video adapter is "VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter. Please somebody suggest smth23:20
invernizziGuevara: salve, this is an english only forum. no italian :-D23:20
Cougartenpsychic: I don't know any restore program, but you should be able to google one ("restore erased file ubuntu" or something))23:20
CocoaExcuse me, is it ok if I burn the jaunty cd iso to dvdr and install it like that?23:20
psychicok will do23:20
invernizzishortguy109: test call23:20
progre55Cocoa, sure :)23:20
psychici have one more question can someone help me fix my monitor size?23:21
progre55Cocoa, I've done that23:21
SealedWithAKissI have registered myself a domain. I want to host the website from home. What is the next step for getting the site up and running? How will I configure the name servers to associate my domain with my IP address?23:21
psychicits not filling the whole screen23:21
SisMidnight_i have a dell mini 9 with ubuntu and can't go online or find anything on my desktop23:21
ais523LeChacal: unfortunately the rules file tends to be very over-complex, because they have to get it working on lots of systems...23:21
soreauprogre55: Try the vesa video driver? if not anything else, just to start X23:21
Cocoaprogre55: Thanks very much. I can't wait to install it!23:21
Shortguy109invernizzi: couldn't hear maself :(23:21
lucaxsome one where do i configure pop up notifications on jaunty??23:21
soreaupsychic: Are you running desktop effects?23:21
progre55soreau, thanks, I'll try to find it now )23:21
Cougartenpsychic: tried to change it yet?23:21
psychici dont think so23:21
alex-weejmnk: you gonna do this? :)23:22
Shortguy109invernizzi: do i change all the things to aslaboost?23:22
soreaupsychic: Can you show the output of 'ps ax|grep compiz'? (prefereably in a pastebin)23:22
semioticdoes anyone know how to make a bootable jaunty USB drive with Mac OS X?23:22
psychicmy screen size wont go above 800x600 i had this problem b4 i think i had to comment a line out somewhere to fix it i cant remember23:22
soreaupreferably*23:22
Cougartenpsychic: tried to change the resolutionyet?23:22
psychichow do i get that23:22
Cougartenk23:22
invernizzishortgoy109:no. did you run sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart ?23:22
soreaupsychic: Sounds like nvidia problem23:22
psychicyea i tried23:23
psychici have cyberblade by trident23:23
rascal999i have 9.04 installed and would like to distribute it over lan, apt-mirror is needed apparently. Can I get away with not having to dl 9.04 as an iso? So the files on this machine are distributed?23:23
weather15Torrents Are Faster23:23
Nalfmylesmadness: lspci and tell me what you get for your card.23:23
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Cougartenpsychic: found http://www.ubuntugeek.com/recover-deleted-files-with-foremostscalpel-in-ubuntu.html or something simmilar for restores?23:23
invernizzishortguy109: try pavucontrol-> Input devices and select all input in the combo box23:23
psychicthanks for looking that up for me that was unexpected23:23
criverahaving trouble install ant on ubuntu.  i run "sudo apt-get install ant ant-optional" and it hangs at "0% [Waiting for headers]"23:24
mylesmadnessNalf: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4318] (rev 02)23:24
FrozenFireIs it just me, or does Jaunty have an abnormal level of anti-aliasing?23:24
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ais523crivera: the repos are very slow at the moment, doing more or less anything repo-related will take you ages because everyone's trying to access them at once23:24
Cougartenpsychic: I don't know if thats the easiest guide :)23:24
invernizzicrivera: servers are overloaded for the Jaunty release23:24
firsmWhy does flashplugin-nonfree depend on and use nspluginwrapper on amd64?23:24
Shortguy109invernizzi: it shows a volume thing just in the input devices23:24
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criveraballs23:24
psychicits ok i can figure it out but i have been all over the internet looking for a fix on the screen size23:24
zsquareplusccrivera: that might be releated to the other 10'000 people updating their ubuntu. it will probably work better in a few hours ;-)23:24
psychiccant get anywhere23:25
ais523FrozenFire: it's definitely different than Intrepid's, you can still customize it via System | Preferences | Appearance though, so you can reduce the amount if it's too much for you23:25
invernizzishortguy109: no moving bar?23:25
Shortguy109invernizzi: ah yes there is23:25
psychicsomeone in this channel helped me get it b423:25
flakeparadigmHello23:25
Shortguy109invernizzi: it's all the way up23:25
mnkalex-weej, sorry got a phone call - i'm doing it now23:25
wolterLol, 2 days and 16 hours remaining to complete the upgrade.23:25
zutmeI just booted the livecd for ubuntu jaunty and it doesn't see my sd card reader. I was running an ubuntu variant based on intrepid and it was working there. Any ideas?23:25
NalfWell..23:25
FrozenFireais523: Thanks. _Much_ better23:25
phixok so to upgrade from intrepid to jaunty I just mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old && sed 's/intrepid/jaunty/g' /etc/apt/sources.list.old > /etc/apt/sources.list23:25
WDCHello. I am in a Live CD of Xubuntu 9.04, and in the installer, there is NO option for ext4.23:25
ais523zutme: were you using a restricted driver before? it's possible that the new version doesn't have it installed atm23:25
mnkalex-weej, http://pastebin.com/m1faaa8c823:26
dwarrelhow can i choose wich server ubuntu uses to upgrade?23:26
zutmeais523, no I wasn't23:26
lucaxcan we configure the notify pop up yet??23:26
ais523dwarrel: system | administration | software sources23:26
wolterIf I am upgrading and I reconnect to the network will that abort?23:26
AndrewjsI don't want to be rude or anything but when I check for updates in update manager they fail. whats wrong?23:26
flakeparadigmHow much has 64bit support improved in the last year or two? I'm thinking about switching over to 64bit for 9.0423:26
CougartenLucax: no23:26
ais523wolter: if you do that during the download, yes but you can restart where it left off; if you do that during the actual install, no23:26
mnkdid u get that alex-weej ?23:26
wolteroh ok23:26
invernizzishortguy109: your mic seem to be working, but the gain is too much. do kate ~/.asoundrc and lower the line with max_dB 30.0 to something like 10.0 . you'll have to run sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart23:26
psychichow do i do that thing to put in pastebin23:27
Cougartencopy it23:27
WDCAnyone know why I can't select 9.04 in the install?23:27
dwarrelais523 if i edit it there to a faster closeby server and try to update it is still slow and when i stop it it says that he tried to download from main source again. (it seems that when you try to upgrade he edits the sourcelist automaticly)23:27
psychichow do i reach the stuff to copy23:27
lucaxok until now... jaunty is just half a release sorry to say23:27
WDCI'm sorry. Why I cannot select ext4 in 9.;04 installer23:27
phixis that about right?23:27
Shortguy109invernizzi: okay23:27
Cougartenpsychic:  mark it and insert it with middle click23:28
phixdwarrel: what ?23:28
manpooledo you have to use gpg keys when installing software??23:28
Andrewjsdoes anyone get failed attempts to update from update manager?23:28
alex-weejmnk: go to the file in your file browser, hit Ctrl+C (copy), and then paste (Ctrl+Shift+V) that into the terminal instead of the "uri" you put in23:28
ais523dwarrel: well it has to edit the source list from Intrepid repos to Jaunty repos23:28
Shortguy109invernizzi: okay done23:28
alex-weejmnk: your URI was invalid23:28
Cougartenpsychic: kind of a 2nd clipboard23:28
lighttitanctr-alt-bkspc doesn't work in Jauntry?23:28
ais523manpoole: no, that's all done automatically behind the scenes23:28
soreaupsychic: While in a busy channel like this, it is easier to get help if you address someone by using their nick in your post so that they are highlighted23:28
Cougartenlighttitan: disaböed by default23:28
invernizzishortguy retry pavucontrol23:28
ais523lighttitan: not by default, install dontzap and run sudo dontzap -d to re-enable it23:28
zsquareplusclighttitan: disbaled by default, yes23:28
scuniziIf you install 64 bit are the packages that are installed with it like Oo also compiled for 64 bit?23:28
dwarrelais523 how can i choose then what jaunty repos it uses? main ones of my country are to slow23:28
lighttitanThanks guys23:29
Cougartendwarder: check "softwaresources" in the options23:29
ais523dwarrel: while you aren't upgrading (cancel it if you are atm), go to System | Preferences | Software Sources23:29
invernizzishortguy109: you'll have to wait a bit again23:29
soreaupsychic: But to answer your question, you have to open a terminal (Applications>Accessories>Terminal and type in 'ps ax|grep compiz' with no quotes)23:29
matt__I am having an issue with irssi in gnome terminal, some times the screen won't refresh, like I type something in and nothing happens or people are chatting but it doesn't show and then it gets kind of scrambled but as soon as I just click on the screen it goes to normal23:29
zsquarepluscscunizi: usually, yes. some packages might be wrapped 32 bit programs but you won't nitice that usually23:29
wolterais523, I reconnected but the upgrade dowloader won't pick up again23:29
psychiccougarten do i put this "ps ax|grep compiz" in terminal23:29
Cougartendwarder: under systemsettings or something (have no english version)23:29
soreaumatt__: Which graphics driver?23:29
Cougartenpsychic: yes23:30
ais523wolter: you have to stop it (with cancel) and start again, it'll continue where it left off23:30
psychicok thank u23:30
matt__nvidia 18823:30
soreaumatt__: Do you have a compositing window manager running?23:30
scunizizsquareplusc: thanks.. been running 32 bit for 3 years and thought I'd setup a test bed for 64 to play with23:30
matt__erm v 180 rather, what is a compositing window manager?23:30
soreaumatt__: Like compiz for instance23:30
joshjtlcan I install kubuntu-restricted-extras minus flash ? so some how like apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras -flashpackage ?23:30
matt__yes23:30
matt__I am running compiz23:30
psychiccougarten its short so ill just put it here    11967 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep compiz23:30
matt__I had emerald running but I disabled that to test it out23:30
ais523joshjtl: the easy way is to install it, then uninstall flash23:31
SisMidnight_I have a mini 9 from dell running ubuntu....something happened and now i can't access any of my desk top items...I am trying to download on my desk pc, netbook remix....is this the right choice or is there a restore in ubuntu like in windows?23:31
soreaumatt__: Then you need the latest workarounds plugin from git. It just missed the compiz releases, but let me get you a link23:31
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matt__cool23:31
ais523alternatively, apt-cache show kubuntu-restricted-extras will list all its dependencies, and you can just install all of them except flash by hand (you can do it in one command)23:31
Cougartenpsychic: i did't ask for it and can't tell you more about it. forgot who asked23:31
Andrewjsi can't install any packages. my sources are gon23:31
joshjtlais523: doesnt apt have some sort of minus packagename option?23:31
MistrJhi i got a problem my root system is become read only! after i changed splash manager! who can help me ?23:31
psychicok i'll find the persons name23:31
invernizzijoshjtl: no23:31
stittelHi! Does Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.04 work out-of-the-box on an ASUS EEE-PC 901 (Go) with all hardware, function keys, power management, suspend etc? Netbook Remix 8.10 was a bit disappointing and I am now trying to decide if I should try Netbook Remix 9.04 or the latest version of Easy Peasy, which was released some days ago.23:32
Cougartenstittel: use eee-control with it23:32
ais523joshjtl: it has no option to install all but one dependency, unfortunately23:32
Andrewjsi can't install any packages. my sources are gone. any way to get them back?23:32
Shortguy109invernizzi: waited long enough orrrrr? lol :P23:32
bluefox83so, i'm having an issue getting 8.10 to upgrade to 9.04, whats the secret????23:32
Cougartenstittel: http://greg.geekmind.org/eee-control/deb/eee-control_0.9.0_all~jaunty.deb23:33
dwarrelais523 It seems i forgot to edit the third party list. Thanks its working now!:D23:33
scunizibluefox83: wait until the servers are hammered23:33
psychicsoreau heres the output   11967 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep compiz23:33
invernizziShortguy109: I meant: open pavucontrol, go to input devices and wait a bit to see if the mic is working23:33
ais523Andrewjs: you can't generally get the souces back from the binaries, but the source packages may still be lying around somewhere; /var/cache/apt is a likely place23:33
soreaupsychic: Then you're not using compiz.. are you using kde or gnome?23:33
Cougartenstittel: just the brightnes control did not advance23:33
psychicgnome23:33
bluefox83scunizi, actually, the problem is it's not saying there is an upgrade available...23:33
bigosrepos working fast again, yaay23:33
stittelCougarten: Does eee-control need a lot of manual configuration?23:33
Cougartenstittel: none :)23:34
Andrewjsthanks i'll try that ais52323:34
Cougartenstittel : but you can reconfigure the hotkeys very easily23:34
jpnubhow do acers fair with ubuntu23:34
stittelCougarten: Thanks.23:34
Shortguy109invernizzi: how do i check?23:34
SisMidnight_wwubuntu.com23:34
stittelCougarten: Did you try (ubuntu-based) Easy Peasy and can make a comparison?23:34
scunizibluefox83: did you get the FF security upgrade today?23:34
ais523Andrewjs: if they aren't there, also try locate followed by the name of the package, that's likely to turn up false positives, but they might be somewhere else23:34
Cougartenstittel: forgto: you have to make it launch at startup23:34
bluefox83scunizi, yep23:34
SisMidnight_ubuntu.com23:34
invernizzishortguy109: do you see a moving bar if you speak?23:34
Cougartenstittel : *forgott23:35
psychicsoreau yes i am using gnome23:35
ais523Andrewjs: and of course, you can always redownload them from wherever you got them in the first place23:35
Shortguy109invernizzi: no23:35
oh_noesis there any util in linux that can cat a .csv file, and format it into columns23:35
scunizibluefox83: hummm .. you might want to "update", "upgrade", "dist-upgrade" in terminal and see if it pops up then23:35
HappyHoboIs there a faster server to get jackalope?  This 5 hours mess is ridiculous.23:35
oh_noesso it's a easier to read in CLI23:35
Shortguy109invernizzi: i think i see the bar but it doesn't move23:35
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Andrewjswell i'm trying to figure out if i'm ok for updates since i deleted some third party sources23:36
theunixgeekWhen I try to boot from my Ubuntu USB drive, I get "Boot Error." I copied the Ubuntu disk image to it with UNetbootin.23:36
invernizzishortguy109: is it too low or too high?23:36
derrichhas anyone else found that the ubuntu 9.04 repositories are getting hit awfully hard? it would make sense, given that it was just released today, i'm just wondering if that's why apt/synaptic are downloading packages so slowly23:36
Cougartenstittel: oh and volumecontrol is a bit tricky too, but you can just control it with the mouse...23:36
psychicsoreau can u help me if its gnome?23:36
mattwj2002!64bit23:36
stittelCougarten: You are referring to 9.04 Netbook Remix, right?23:36
ubottuAMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/3jkole and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64 for more information.23:36
Guest73621hey how do I update ubuntu to the latest?23:36
soreaupsychic: Umm.. you said nvidia graphics too?23:36
invernizziderrich: try a different mirror23:36
macmanguys can't get sound working .. alsamixer says pcm and maser is all the way up .. any ideas on how to fix ?23:36
neo644yeah, the servers are really getting hit bad23:36
leftfieldanyone know when canonicals servers will compensate for the traffic, about23:36
admin_masu3701#ubuntu+1 is being forwarded to this channel?23:36
Shortguy109invernizzi: what do u mean? :o23:36
bluefox83scunizi, sorry, didn't work...23:36
psychicsoreau no trident cyberblade23:36
theunixgeekneo644: I got my download at around 220 kpbs23:36
theunixgeek*kbps23:37
neo644Ive got 8kb/s on a 2mib/s connection23:37
mylesmadnesswould this guide still work for 9.04: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_(ndiswrapper)23:37
invernizzishortguy109: the bar is empty or full?23:37
DisabledDucki'm using Mythbuntu, i don't have fileroller, and the tar command won't work, does anyone have any idea's what i can do to get this file open?23:37
derrichinvernizzi: ok, i'll poke around. thanks23:37
Shortguy109invernizzi: empty23:37
CougartenGuest73621: do you have Jaunty allready?23:37
admin_masu3701#ubuntu+1 is being forwarded to this channel?23:37
leftfieldrepositories average for me was around 20kb23:37
soreaupsychic: What is the output of 'lspci|grep VGA'?23:37
oh_noesis there any util in linux that can cat a .csv file, and format it into columns so it's a easier to read in CLI23:37
wolterDisabledDuck, why don't you get fileroller?23:37
theunixgeekDisabledDuck: /join #mythbuntu23:37
Guest73621I have kubuntu 9.04 rc or beta.23:37
psychicsoreau   01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade XPAi1 (rev 82)23:38
zsquarepluscadmin_masu3701: because its was released today and +1 is opened in some weeks again for the next release in 6 months23:38
SisMidnight_is there anyone on here that can chat with me one on one about my problem?23:38
CougartenGuest73621: it will update itself as usual, but you can check it under system - systemmanagement - updatesomething23:38
theunixgeekIs it safe to resize an NTFS partition?23:38
theunixgeekSisMidnight_: why can't you ask it here?23:38
leftfieldjaunty, overall, is excellent.  But, had to resort to NVIDIA's site for the driver.23:38
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admin_masu3701oh ok23:38
neo644How long does it usually take for the servers to recover from new releases (eg. the download speeds arent ridiculously slow)23:38
SisMidnight_i have and no one is answering23:38
soreaupsychic: Wow. I have no knowledge of that chipset or what the max resolution might be. Your best bet would be to google, sorry23:38
Cougartentheunixgeek: never safe bit works most times23:38
leftfieldFirestarter finally came through, in about 3 min.23:38
Andrewjsi accidently deleted third party sources..can someone help me?23:38
ais523SisMidnight_: ask again, then, in case someone who knows is here now23:38
admin_masu3701how long will it take to upgrade from 8.10?23:39
CrayboffI'm updating from 8.10 to 9.04 and a warning came up. "This computer is currently using AMD 'fglrx' graphics driver. No version of this driver is available that works with your hardware in [9.04]"23:39
Guest73621o ok23:39
diegoviolaneo644: use bittorrent23:39
leftfieldneo, on 7.xx, my situation was 2 days.23:39
SisMidnight_i have a dell mini 9.....want to know if there is a restore of some type to go back23:39
theunixgeekCougarten: so gparted won't mess up my Windows partition (if it does, it's still ok, but I'd rather it didn't)? I won't blame you if anything goes wrong ;)23:39
Cougartentheunixgeek: right23:39
neo644admin_masu3701, ages with the current state of the servers.23:39
magciusHmm... this is actually a Xandros box, but they have no IRC, but, this is the error I'm getting when trying to connect to the net: http://pastebin.com/d78b7a48d23:39
psychicsoreau its common 1200x 800 or somthing like that also when i start my computer it tells me that i have an unsupported chipset23:39
invernizzishortguy109: mmm. the bug that's common on dells is this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/275998?comments=all . search for "marcus granado" for the solution to the bug.23:39
hbekeltheunixgeek: it won't unless you used vista to create partitions23:40
neo644diegoviola, i am not downloading the cd, just using the upgrade tool23:40
tclineksi just upgraded a machine from intrepid to jaunty and now ssh hangs when i try to log in23:40
tclineksfrom a mac23:40
psychicsoreau but i was still able to get the max res b423:40
mrwesSo what's the state of Brasero? More reliable now?23:40
Cougartenhbekel: oh didn't know thx23:40
invernizzishortguy109: I'm sorry, but I got to go now. You'll have to ask someone else :-(23:40
jaypurI'm having problems with ACPI invalid PBLK, can someone help me?23:40
CrayboffI need to know if i should continue or not, what's up w/ that error?23:40
leftfieldYes, mrwes, brasero is stable, and faster23:40
leftfieldfor me, anyways23:40
Shortguy109invernizzi: that's alright, thanks very much for the help!!! :)23:40
scunizimrwes: k3b.. k3b.. k3b23:40
ais523SisMidnight_: what did you have on there before?23:40
kaarneis there a known issue in 9.04 NBR with WPA connections? cant get it to work, wep is no problem23:40
SisMidnight_heron23:40
theunixgeekhbekel: I used Ubuntu to create a Windows and a Linux partition, then changed over to Fedora, and now I want to copy the Ubuntu disk image over to this new partition so I can install Ubuntu from my HD since my disk drive is broken23:41
soreaupsychic: It might be you need to be using the correct graphics driver.. do you know which one you're using? (/var/log/Xorg.0.log file would tell what driver(s) are being loaded)23:41
mrwesleftfield, been burning dvd iso's from the command line - - just wondering23:41
Cougartenkaane : having a ralink chipset? (EEE PCs have one)23:41
proqI have a dell XPS one with a several buttons on the monitor.  in ubuntu they are off and don't seem to respond. does anyone know how to get these working in ubuntu 9 or 8?23:41
kaarneyes cougarten23:41
leftfieldgrowisofs would still be faster23:41
neo644You have to download 1101M. This will take about 5 hours with your connection.23:41
neo644T_T23:41
SisMidnight_i know nothing about ubuntu23:41
Cougartenkaane: eee 1000 or 901?23:41
kaarne90123:41
ais523SisMidnight_: you need to reinstall to go back a distribution, the package manager isn't capable of doing a simultaneous downgrade of all packages23:41
mrwesleftfield, yah...I have an alias for that -- burndvd23:41
hbekelCougarten: see http://www.multibooters.co.uk/partitions.html23:41
Cougartenkaane: it just happens if you use wpa+wpa223:41
mrwesworks great23:41
theunixgeekproq: there is no "Ubuntu 9" or "Ubuntu 8." There are, though, 8.04, 8.10, and 9.0423:41
badfish69what linux kernel version does jaunty use?23:41
SisMidnight_ok...reinstall what...i have no disc23:41
theunixgeekand soon, 9.1023:41
hbekeltheunixgeek: in that case gparted should work fine23:41
theunixgeekhbekel: alright, and do you know how to copy a disk image to an HD?23:42
theunixgeek*a partition23:42
woltertheunixgeek, not that soon23:42
leftfieldLinux ubuntu64desktop 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:58:03 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux23:42
hbekeltheunixgeek: a unix geek should know dd ;)23:42
kaarnecougarten: only wpa+wpa2, wep works fine23:42
mrwesbadfish69, 2.6.28-11-generic23:42
proqtheunixgeek: yes, I know.  I've been using ubuntu since the first release23:42
woltertheunixgeek, about 6 months =(23:42
riwaJust updated to 9.04. Now I cant start openarena. Its installed from sources (not the repos).23:42
hbekeltheunixgeek: you can use dd, but you'll have to think23:42
Cougartenkaane: you could roll back the driver or switch to wpa2 only. search for the bugreport (rt2680 is the chipsets name)23:42
theunixgeekhbekel: ah, good point, I didn't even think about it :D23:42
wolterI want it because they are going to implement the plymouth thing23:42
Praetor_KhanRan the update manager to upgrade to Jaunty but after the reboot I'm still running Ibex.23:42
theunixgeekhbekel: yeah, but I'd rather not think too much and mess something up :X23:42
admin_masu3701neo644: cause alot people are upgrading?23:43
kaarnecougarten: I'll check that out, thx so far23:43
proqtheunixgeek: saying that is like saying there is no os x 10.5, only 10.5.0, 10.5.1, 10.5.2, etc.23:43
soreaumatt__: Here it is, it's because of a race condition. Read post 8 here from maniac (the compiz developer that programmed the workaround)http://nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=12971123:43
neo644admin_masu3701, exactly.23:43
admin_masu3701i see23:43
stittelCougarten: You have been referring to version 9.04 of Netbook Remix, right?23:43
ais523SisMidnight_: downgrading is difficult, you need to back up your files, wipe the computer, and put Hardy back onto it from a CD; it's not really recommended to do that23:43
riwaI get this when checking for updates: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.23:43
SisMidnight_reinstall what....i have no disc23:43
theunixgeekproq: no.. Ubuntu version numbering is completely different23:43
alwaysHi, i need a package for read .chm files23:43
theunixgeekproq: you could, however, say ubuntu 8.x23:43
jeiworth_SisMidnight_: download 8.10 from ubuntu.org23:43
theunixgeekI think23:43
alwaysxchm in repository is obsoleted23:43
theunixgeekproq: but saying Ubuntu 8 or Ubuntu 8.x isn't at all "standard"23:44
riwaalways: xchm23:44
anxiolyticHow come when I drag a window, music pauses until I let the window go? This happens only with compiz OFF and with any music player. Happens on Hardy/Intrepid/Jaunty23:44
mnkalex-weej, i pasted it but i get the same error23:44
proqtheunixgeek: that is your opinion.  both increment their version numbers over time.23:44
mnkalex-weej, i pasted it but i get the same error - invalid uri23:44
Cougartenstittel : I used NBR with 8.x and now using jaunty without NBR, but the hotkeys should work the same as on my mashine now23:44
LjL!info gnochm | always23:44
ubottualways: gnochm (source: gnochm): CHM file viewer for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.11-2 (jaunty), package size 155 kB, installed size 840 kB23:44
theunixgeekproq: yes, but Ubuntu increments it according to the year and month it's released, while OS X does it sequentially23:44
alex-weejmnk: ok try this: gst-launch-0.10  filesrc location="/path/to/file" ! decodebin ! audioconvert ! gconfaudiosink23:44
Crayboffok, warning appeared during upgrade to 9.04 saying that 9.04 doesn't have an AMD 'fglrx' graphics driver, what should I do? should I continue the upgrades?23:45
sele_hi23:45
magciusHmm... this is actually a Xandros box, but they have no IRC, but, this is the error I'm getting when trying to connect to the net: http://pastebin.com/d78b7a48d23:45
proqtheunixgeek: yes, I know.  like I said, I've been using ubuntu since the first release23:45
Cougartenanxiolytic: can't really help you, but I'd check if it's the same with VLC-player. it has it's own codex23:45
magciusbah, stupid me, hit the up button23:45
alwaysubottu is package obsoletd23:45
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:45
ToxMoxanybody intimately familiar with mdadm?23:45
bdrung_Crayboff: what graphic card do you have?23:45
sele_newer :)23:45
stittelCougarten: Ok, thanks again.23:45
Imdsmanyone know of any reasons why easy peasy/ubtunu eee might not want to boot from USB whilst other distros (i.e deb) do (on eee 1000h)?23:46
miramardesigni need to upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04.. best way?????23:46
ais523miramardesign: go via 8.1023:46
jeiworth_ToxMox: i set up a software raid-5 ages ago with mdmadm23:46
Crayboffbdrung_: umm how do i figure this out? I have an inspiron 1521 w/ whatever came with it23:46
miramardesignso I need 8.10 1st???23:46
mnkalex-weej, http://pastebin.com/m464bdd5f23:46
Cougarten: Imdsm: it should23:46
mrwesmiramardesign, either upgrade to 8.10 first then 9.04, or do a fresh install of 9.0423:46
mnkalex-weej, thanks for ur help btw23:46
mnkalex-weej, much appreciated23:47
miramardesignk, answered my question ther mr ais23:47
SisMidnight_would that be 8.04LTS23:47
bdrung_Crayboff: run "lspci" in an terminal23:47
Praetor_KhanRan the update manager to upgrade to Jaunty but after the reboot I'm still running Ibex.23:47
CougartenImdsm: used Unetbootin or something?23:47
alex-weejmnk: ok one more, do gst-launch-0.10 -v blabla ! blabla ! etc.23:47
ToxMoxjeiworth: my raid 5 is screwed. Upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 today and only 3 out my 5 drives were showing in the raid.  mdadm won't let me stop the raid to attempt to reassemble it23:47
mrwesPraetor_Khan, open a terminal, what does lsb_release -rd say?23:47
miramardesignim  downloading 8.10 now but its taking 4ever and so i wanted to know if it could skip it / guess not!23:47
progre55hi everybody! Jaunty is not recognizing my video card "VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter" and my wireless. please somebody help23:47
alex-weejmnk: that is, put a minus-v in the command23:47
mnkok alex-weej23:48
ImdsmCougarten: i cant think why, I have the easyp iso 1.1, md5 checks out, ive used netbootin windows & also put it by linux, i used linux to dd over a debian image and it booted fine, but windows netbooting and manually putting it on with (http://wiki.geteasypeasy.com/Install:_from_a_Live_Ubuntu_image_on_a_USB_stick#How_to_configure_a_USB_stick_manually) just dont seem to work23:48
SisMidnight_don't see a download for 8.1023:48
psychicsoreau http://pastebin.com/m781d5ee123:48
mnkalex-weej,  http://pastebin.com/m2ce6162923:48
jeiworth_ToxMox: hm whats the error message when you do try? is the config file still correct'23:48
CougartenImdsm : strange, maybe they can help you in the easy-peasy channel... I can't23:48
Crayboffbdrung_: where in lspci is it?23:48
zsquarepluscSisMidnight_: use the update manager. but 1sst use the package settings to enable the 6 month releases instead of LTS23:49
ImdsmCougarten: i'll try, but i think they're sleeping, ;) it's awfully quiet in there23:49
Praetor_KhanIt says: Description:Ubuntu 8.10 Release:8.1023:49
ImdsmCougarten: thnx anyway mate23:49
CougartenImdsm: btw, why do you choose easy-peasy?23:49
SisMidnight_i do not understand anything you are saying...know nothing about ubuntu23:49
miramardesignso jaunty loads much quicker i hear....??23:49
mrwesPraetor_Khan, you ran sudo update-manager -d ?23:49
tasIt boots up much faster, yes23:49
bdrung_Crayboff: "lspci | grep VGA"23:49
Cougartenmiramardesign : yes23:49
ZanQdohi23:49
soreaupsychic: That doesn't help much. /var/log/Xorg.0.log is a lot bigger file than three lines23:50
ImdsmCougarten: ubtunu eee /e p seemed to have good compatability from what i read, and xandros is shit, so i thought i'd try e p23:50
miramardesignheron takes me forever on this system23:50
ZanQdoIm installing the new ubuntu netbook on my acer one23:50
SisMidnight_asking in a chat like this makes it hard to understand what to do23:50
riwaAfter update my gfx card doesn't seem to work.23:50
ZanQdotheres this formatting options I dont understand23:50
zsquarepluscSisMidnight_: look at the System->Administration  menu there should be an entry about package managment and the update manager23:50
miramardesignCoug : how much faster did u get??23:50
Crayboffah, " ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]"23:50
ToxMoxjeiworth: message is "mdadm: fail to stop array /dev/md0: Device or resource busy" not sure if config file is correct anymore.  think drive assignments got changed during upgrade to 8.10  modified mdadm.conf to have new drive assignments doesn't seem to do anything.  would like to force an assemble --scan but can't because of error23:50
CougartenImdsm: the new ubuntu works even better (faster boot)23:50
perlsyntaxhow do i update the network-mantger in ubuntu 9.04?23:50
riwaOr it works.. But my fps is like HALF23:50
Crayboffbdrung_ ^23:50
ZanQdoInstall them side by side?23:50
perlsyntax?23:50
ImdsmCougarten: am i right in assuming that easy peasy split from ubuntu then?23:50
mnkdid u get that alex-weej23:51
mnk?23:51
CougartenImdsm: and the few extra applications can be installed aswell. No it did not, but they use 8.x, not ubuntu 9.x23:51
alex-weejmnk: that's really odd. do you have any other wma files you can test?23:51
ZanQdois this some way to share the windows and linux partition?23:51
perlsyntaxi have prob  get my network-mangter to work with my att pc card23:51
psychicsoreau http://pastebin.com/m1338b90223:51
tasUh, I have a question; I wanted to know if there's a temperature guage for Ubuntu like OS X's iStat or Windows Speedfan, preferably a desktop widget since I dont have anything on there23:51
perlsyntaxanyone got a idea23:51
jeiworth_ToxMox: hmm lsof /dev/md0 might shed some light23:51
ImdsmCougarten: ahh i see23:51
kilrae-laptopis it possible to set up a second automounted ecryptfs folder?23:51
mnkyes alex-weej - the weird thing is that they all work in mplayer23:51
mnkalex-weej, but not in totem23:51
perlsyntaxanyone23:51
Praetor_Khanmrwes, I just ran the update manager through the menu.  So I'm doing it wrong?23:51
ImdsmCougarten: i'll try the ubuntu standard then, see how that treats me :)23:52
CougartenImdsm: but keep an eye on easy-peasy now that they don't have to care about hardware they might develop other useful stuff23:52
telavivis anyone else having problems with apt-get update right now?23:52
SisMidnight_synaptic package manager?23:52
jeiworth_ToxMox: that mdadm was changed during upgrade sounds to me a bit worrysome too23:52
bdrung_Crayboff: fglrx dropped the support for this card, but there is the free ati driver, which provides the same features (like xv and 3d). so you can continue upgrading23:52
jeiworth_mdadm.conf that is23:52
CougartenImdsm: there is a netbook version too23:52
zsquareplusctas: sensors-applet in gnome and sensors-settup console tool may need to be run once to discover the sensors23:52
mnkalex-weej, i tested another one - same issue23:52
sele_who i can download the ubuntu dvd installer torrent?23:52
Crayboffbdrung_: will i have to install any drivers?23:52
CougartenImdsm: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-netbook23:52
perlsyntaxhow do i uppdate my network manger in ubuntu 9.0423:52
ImdsmCougarten: ah, i spose they do kinda have it easy there ;), ah nice, thnx ^23:52
SisMidnight_synaptic package manager?23:53
bdrung_Crayboff: no, the ati driver is installed and used by default.23:53
perlsyntaxi try apt-get no update23:53
ZanQdoCougarten: in this netbook version, can you explain the side by side installation?23:53
jeiworth_ToxMox: you said one hdd was dropped from the array?23:53
ZanQdowhat will it do?23:53
alex-weejmnk: are you sure they aren't DRM'd?23:53
anxiolyticCougarten: with VLC, the audio keeps playing when I drag something but the video stops23:53
zsquarepluscSisMidnight_: yeah that works too, you can go to its properties to choose how you want to upgrade23:53
mnkwhat's DRM alex-weej ?23:53
taszsquare: How do I run those? I should note I'm on a macbook 5,1, but I already set them up so that they should work23:53
Cougartenanxiolytic: intresting, but I'm no Linuxpro so I can't help, sry23:53
Crayboffalright, dang it it just came up with a warning saying some 3rd party stuff was disabled, and i had to press close, bdrung_ how do i fix this?23:53
tasHowever I've heard nothing of those Gnome Applets you mentioned23:54
LordMetroI need help backing up!23:54
mrwesPraetor_Khan, check your software sources and make sure you have releases set to Normal under the update tab23:54
zsquareplusctas: the applet, you can simply add by right clicking on the panel and choose "add.."23:54
anxiolyticyeah. I think I've always experienced this but was using compiz so I didn't care23:54
SisMidnight_i apologize but i don't understand23:54
LordMetroI am in the shell of the installer23:54
alex-weej!drm | mnk23:54
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about drm23:54
alex-weejwhat23:54
mnkbtw alex-weej i tried your command with an mp3 file that does work but same error23:54
anxiolyticubuntu has been way too unstable for me after Hardy23:54
mnk!rdrm23:54
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about rdrm23:54
LordMetroWhat name can I find my usb drive under /dev ?23:54
mnk!drm23:54
omolinahi all23:54
perlsyntaxgod i talk to myself.23:55
mnk!drm23:55
SisMidnight_properties is all greyed out23:55
jeiworth_ToxMox: brb, feel free to query/msg23:55
alex-weejmnk: OOPS. you left out most of the command!23:55
mnk?23:55
soreaupsychic: That's better. It's falling back to the "vesa" driver which works with any video (with no acceleration or possibly not correct resolution settings) If it's saying low graphics mode when you boot, you have to fix your video driver installation. Unfortunately I have no idea how to do that for your chipset / card23:55
nrg__is it just me or are the update servers super slow right now?23:55
ToxMoxjeiworth...already msging :)  did you get them?23:55
bdrung_Crayboff: was fglrx the 3rd party stuff?23:55
alex-weejmnk: it's supposed to be: gst-launch-0.10 filesrc locaton=whatever ! decodebin ! audioconvert ! gconfaudiosink23:55
Crayboffbdrung_: i dunno23:55
alex-weejmnk: you left everything out after the filesrc bit23:55
nrg__donwloading at 50 kb/s23:55
Praetor_Khanmrwes, yeah, releases are set to normal.23:55
wolternrg__, yeah23:56
mnkalex-weej,  http://pastebin.com/m605cd4d123:56
wolternrg__, there is a solution23:56
mnkalex-weej, sorry!23:56
mrwesPraetor_Khan, open a terminal and type sudo update-manager -d23:56
wolternrg__, go to software sources, click the server dropdown, select Other...23:56
psychicsoreau last time when i fixxed it i had to comment out a line in some file23:56
wolterThen click on choose best server23:56
ImdsmLordFDisk: depends what your other drives are, usually /dev/sda or sdb etc, check dmesg23:56
docidquick question guys, has anybody dont distupgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 without issues?23:56
Crayboffbdrung_: well imma gonna figure that stuff out later, thanks for your help23:56
Praetor_Khanmrwes, alright.  Done.23:56
soreaupsychic: Can you pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf?23:56
perlsyntaxdoes anyone know yabout any update for the network-manager?23:56
LordMetroWhat filename does an usb drive have under /dev for mounting?23:56
wolternrg__, that will ping all the servers, and the one with which you have the better download speed will be chosen automatically23:56
alex-weejmnk: did you rip these .wma files with windows media player?23:56
raphaHow do I get sound to play over my bluetooth headset in Jaunty?23:56
mnkalex-weej, the mp3 one works now23:56
naxahow can i set the resolution of the console (tty, ctrl-alt-f1)? my intel driver and video card combo always mess up with it23:56
tasAnyway, is there a temperature widget or something to that effect for Jaunty?23:56
mrwesPraetor_Khan, anything happening? heh23:56
nrg__ok23:56
ais523docid: I updated from 8.10 to 9.04 beta with no issues, and I've had issues at every other upload in the past23:56
bdrung_Crayboff: i would just continue the upgrade. if you notice that some 3rd party stuff is missing, then you have to install the 3rd party stuff afterwards.23:56
zonkeddocid - I had to unplug external monitor from laptop port.23:57
SisMidnight_what am i looking for23:57
SisMidnight_?23:57
zonkeddocid everything else went fine23:57
mnkalex-weej, no i ripped them in ubuntu - they used to work before in intrepid23:57
perlsyntaxhello!23:57
wolternrg__, I was getting 9000B/s. After that, 133KB/s23:57
Praetor_Khanmrwes, the update manager popped up.23:57
nrg__looks like it corrected itself23:57
hbekelLordMetro: sd<something> check dmesg after pluggin it in to find out23:57
alex-weejmnk: you ripped them TO WMA?23:57
mnkalex-weej, do u have a file that u know works that u could send to me?23:57
wolternrg__, which is your download speed now?23:57
alex-weejmnk: with Ubuntu?!23:57
nrg__back to normal speeds23:57
wolterwhat*23:57
zsquarepluscSisMidnight_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades for 8.04->8.10  then https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades for 8.10->9.0423:57
LordMetrohbekel I did a dmesg and I got a lot of text23:58
alex-weejmnk: i don't have any wma23:58
mnkalex-weej, i think so -23:58
alex-weejmnk: maybe you could send one to me?23:58
wolter!who | nrg__23:58
ubottunrg__: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)23:58
nrg__150 +23:58
SisMidnight_what?23:58
LordMetrosdb I suppose23:58
nrg__ubottu, : ok, my apologies23:58
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:58
docidcool, just wanted to get an idea if this was casueing problems with anybody this time around,  i already had 9.04 on this lappy, but my box at home is 8.10, and  im liking many things about 9.04 just slightly wary about doing the deed on my big box23:58
alex-weejmnk: email the smallest one to alex@weej.com23:58
wolterubottu, are you an intelligent human?23:58
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:58
Cougartencan someone tell the bot to include that TAB usually auto-completes names?23:58
hbekelLordMetro: look at the end of those msgs23:58
lstarnes!tab | Cougarten23:59
ubottuCougarten: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.23:59
psychicsoreau http://pastebin.com/m678c8c5923:59
SisMidnight_i apologize again but this isn't making any sense23:59
mnkok alex-weej23:59
cousteauwhat's the best way to upgrade hardy to jaunty? upgrade to intrepid and then jaunty, or install jaunty (keeping /home)?23:59
Cougartenlstarnes : should be includet in !who aswell23:59
anxiolyticany recommendations for apps to make screencasts on Linux?23:59
LordMetrodev/sdb nor /dev/sdb1 want mount using for example "mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb", telling me it is an invalid argument23:59
oh_noesis it possible to get my OS uptime in minutes23:59
ais523cousteau: going via intrepid certainly works, a clean install lets you do other interesting things if you like23:59

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