[00:00] <iceroot> !pt | jv_
[00:00] <gartral1> jewome62: ubuntu is ussually released around 23:00 UTC
[00:01] <EoL{s}> Can somebody answer a question I have about the Ubuntu 8.10 installer?
[00:01] <jv_> iceroot: I know that, tx..wondering if there was anyone close to my area...
[00:01] <gartral1> (least, according to my math >.>)
[00:01] <tty> lta
[00:01] <MaT-dg> I have a discussion on this: does 'opensource' mean that the dev's on ubuntu 9.10 have to be 'open' about the new theme('s) or can they hide the state of development until the release?
[00:01] <iceroot> EoL{s}: #ubuntu+1
[00:02] <mado> musikgoat|main, was bedeutet dein befehl auf deutsch?
[00:02] <iceroot> EoL{s}: ah sorry, get it wrong, just ask the question
[00:02] <musikgoat|main> mado, english please,  the line was a for loop running that command the number of times in the seq (sequence)
[00:03] <mado> musikgoat|main, i wrote in english but you didn't answer ... so i tried german ... because "musik" is the german word for "music" isn't it? :)
[00:03] <musikgoat|main> yes
[00:03] <EoL{s}> iceroot: I have two hard drives, if I erase the partition on one, can I create the appropriate partitions for ubuntu during the installation?
[00:03] <Lord_Devi> MaT-dg: As far as I understand every package has it's own dev mailing list one can subscribe to if they want to...
[00:04] <n_nm> when can we get 9.04
[00:04] <iceroot> EoL{s}: yes
[00:04] <iceroot> n_nm: today (23.04)
[00:04] <musikgoat|main> mado: but i'm not german, at least not fully, and I'm not fluent in german :-)
[00:04] <musikgoat|main> mado: but thats neither here nor there
[00:05] <mado> musikgoat|main, ok :)
[00:05] <MaT-dg> Lord_Devi: I mean for example: blogging on a public blog with screenshots that show how the new theme and icons wil look like
[00:06] <musikgoat|main> mado: i would be careful giving a boss that script though, because then they will expect that you are familiar with bash scripting, and expect more than you can provide ;-)
[00:06] <mado> musikgoat|main, :)
[00:06] <n_nm> i need help enemy territory
[00:06] <Lord_Devi> MaT-dg: I don't think you'll find anything like that. There might be some sort of svn or git available though.
[00:07] <Sefram> are there any download links for Ubuntu 9.04?
[00:07] <mado> well ... i won't give my boss the command ... but i will tell her / him ... that i have one to make sure that all the files are completely removed ... but erm musikgoat|main  ...
[00:07] <musikgoat|main> mado: otherwise, you can start reading the advanced bash scripting guide for learning some cool tricks with bash
[00:07] <mado> is there a way to try to recover the files?
[00:08] <MaT-dg> Lord_Devi: as far as I know they keep it well hidden until the final release (maybe RC) so no git or svn
[00:08] <mado> well musikgoat|main ... i'd like to do so ... but i guess i have to learn more basics first :) ... ... erm ... could you suggest me some things i should read ?
[00:08] <musikgoat|main> mado: once the bits have been written over, its not feasible to be able to recover the files,  there have been studies that say that it is still possible, but those have been debunked
[00:08] <musikgoat|main> !absg
[00:09] <musikgoat|main> !abs
[00:09] <blip-> ooh boon2
[00:09] <armagheddonsgw> ok i have issues with pidgin
[00:09] <armagheddonsgw> its crashing after a certain length of time with msn enabled
[00:09] <Psi-Jack> Heh, I see what it means by fakeraid now, basically expensive tasks, the raid "hardware" still uses the CPU to do expensive operations. Oi.
[00:10] <mado> musikgoat|main, i'm asking because i want to write the "recover"-command too so that they can see that there's not really a way ... i just want to be on the safe side :)
[00:10] <RantingHuman> armagheddonsgw, do you perchance use any music-I'm-listening-to plugin with pidgin?
[00:10] <musikgoat|main> i'm not sure what you mean by a recover comand,  i'm not sure one exists
[00:10] <armagheddonsgw> no
[00:11] <armagheddonsgw> have done nothing but download the updates ubuntu suggested
[00:11] <mado> uhuu ... i see ... so ... *thinking* musikgoat|main ...
[00:11] <lucax> whats wrong with intel gma and jaunty rc??
[00:11] <RantingHuman> hm, maybe someone else knows, then
[00:11] <armagheddonsgw> also XP32 is refusing to boot
[00:12] <musikgoat|main> heh, thats like saying,  hmm, this cheese smells funny, and oh yeah, the building is burning down :-)
[00:12] <Pici> !jaunty
[00:13] <mado> so ok then ... for only one round -> sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy <- ---- and what if i want to to run it more than once ... for example ... twice ... then i will write ,,, for 2 in `seq 1 10`;do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy; done ?? musikgoat|main ?
[00:13] <armagheddonsgw> got issues with windows: it wont boot since installing ubuntu, and unlike last time, ubuntu is the primary bootloader
[00:13] <musikgoat|main> mado,  you could simply do:  sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy && sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy
[00:13] <musikgoat|main> mado: but no, your logic was a bit wrong
[00:13] <gm|lap> guys, i'm not sure if you're to blame for typos in USB, but:
[00:13] <gm|lap> Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0bda:0158 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Mass Stroage Device
[00:14] <mado> uhuu ... ok musikgoat|main :)
[00:14] <mado> thank you so far musikgoat|main :)
[00:14] <musikgoat|main> mado: for x in `seq 1 2`;do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy; done
[00:14] <musikgoat|main> mado: but then the for loop is overkill
[00:14] <armagheddonsgw> anyone able to help me with the windows thingy?
[00:14] <FrozenFire> What's the most common open-source Ubuntu PDF reader that can be utilized by FireFox for in-browser PDF viewing?
[00:14] <mado> for x in `seq 1 10`;do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy; done ... ... would be ten times? musikgoat|main ?
[00:15] <mado> oh! musikgoat|main
[00:15] <musikgoat|main> yes mado,  try this:  for x in `seq 1 10`;do echo $x; done
[00:15] <FrozenFire> armagheddonsgw: Installing Ubuntu on a secondary partition, or from Wubi?
[00:15] <armagheddonsgw> wubi?
[00:15] <armagheddonsgw> but yes, i think
[00:15] <Lord_Devi> MaT-dg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Human%20Skin  I found a place with some beta images for Karmic Koala..
[00:15] <mrNotYou> Hey
[00:15] <FrozenFire> Wubi installs Ubuntu within Windows, as "an application"
[00:16] <Lord_Devi> MaT-dg: but yeah you're right, there isn't much in that regards, that's for sure.
[00:16] <mado> uuh! musikgoat|main
[00:16] <mrNotYou> It's 23rd April and Jaunty still not available on stable. Whats going on..?:S
[00:16] <armagheddonsgw> ah. i installed it from the ubuntu disk
[00:16] <musikgoat|main> !outyet | mrNotYou
[00:16] <FrozenFire> armagheddonsgw: Are you absolutely sure you didn't install Ubuntu over top of Windows, destroying the Windows partition?
[00:16] <mado> mrNotYou, what is the time in you time-zone ?
[00:16] <Lord_Devi> MaT-dg: I read a quote where Mark says they might be looking into colours OTHER than brown for 9.10! wow...
[00:16] <armagheddonsgw> 100% sure
[00:16] <CaneToad> I find that when printing, some document print fine, but others somehow get their status changed to "Held".  There's no report of any error, but such documents are not printing.  What does "Held" mean?
[00:17] <mrNotYou> mado: +2
[00:17] <armagheddonsgw> the boot program crashes for windows
[00:17] <noodly-appendage> mrNotYou: where do yo live?
[00:17] <armagheddonsgw> it does load though
[00:17] <MaT-dg> Lord_Devi: thx for link, but I don't think that that is the new 'ultimate' theme for 9.10
[00:17] <FrozenFire> armagheddonsgw: I'm not sure Windows likes GRUB without some hacking
[00:17] <burvowski> hi everyone, i just installed ubuntu on my laptop, and the graphics are kind of jittery....how do i go about updating drivers?
[00:17] <mrNotYou> noodly-appendage: My time zone is +2. it's now 2:17 so even centrally, it shlould be 23rd..
[00:18] <maxriskfactor> any idea at what time Jaunty would be out? Its still showing RC availability on the page
[00:18] <Lord_Devi> MaT-dg: haha, yeah.. Good lord better not be. hah. It's more than I expected to find though.
[00:18] <noodly-appendage> Where is +2?  Alaska?
[00:18] <MaT-dg> Lord_Devi: Indeed, apperantly they hired some real designers and are going to do a total overhaul (high hopes for new ubercool theme ^^)
[00:18] <musikgoat|main> mrNotYou: historically, the releases have never come out at midnight UTC,  i would assume it wont come out till afternoon UTC
[00:18] <armagheddonsgw> grrrr damnit! pidgin crashed again
[00:18] <mrNotYou> noodly-appendage: lol no;p athens.
[00:18] <hadis> mine is+8 so it's 07:18...
[00:18] <Lord_Devi> MaT-dg: I'm obsessed with eye candy myself. I hear ya.
[00:18] <CaneToad> anyone know how to diagnose a "Held" CUPS print job that hasn't printed?
[00:18] <Ned2> I don't think it's 23rd yet anywhere in the U.S.
[00:18] <armagheddonsgw> what were you saying whoever it was who was helping?
[00:19] <mado> uhuu
[00:19] <mrNotYou> Ned2: It is though 12:20 in GMT
[00:19] <Ned2> it's still 22nd 1:19pm where I am
[00:19] <maxriskfactor> the time is 23rd UTC?
[00:19] <Lord_Devi> armagheddonsgw: Pidgin is a PoS. I'm so happy to be using Kopete again myself.
[00:19] <adamy> It's already 6am GMT+7 Hahaha
[00:19] <Lord_Devi> armagheddonsgw: A man's Im client.
[00:19] <FrozenFire> armagheddonsgw: I was saying that Windows doesn't like GRUB without some hacking, if I recall correctly.
[00:19] <noodly-appendage> mrNotYou: if 23:59 rolls around and still no ubuntu, then there would be a problem but it'll come soon enough
[00:20] <mrNotYou> noodly-appendage: Oh ok.
[00:20] <mrNotYou> Btw, any of you people know some major changes that will be from 8.10 to jaunty?
[00:20] <Ned2> mrNotYou, what states?
[00:20] <armagheddonsgw> ballocks. ok how do i fix it?
[00:20] <Milo> I installed 8.10 and now no matter what I do i have a blank screen (monitor has no signal). tried to install from winxp..can someone give me a little guidance?
[00:20] <noodly-appendage> mrNotYou: if you download the rc, you can probably update via apt once it comes ou t
[00:20] <MaT-dg> Lord_Devi: well, I like it the way it is now (unity theme and compiz eyecandy), but lot's of people don't like the brown and don't know how to tweak
[00:20] <FrozenFire> armagheddonsgw: I have never had to do it, as I don't use Windows, but http://blog.firetree.net/2005/08/26/duel-boot-windows-with-grub/
[00:21] <armagheddonsgw> ok ty
[00:21] <mrNotYou> noodly-appendage: Nah, im interested in burning the stable on disc cause I wanna install it on another computer too so yahh..
[00:21] <WS|Thermal> Noodly's right though.
[00:21] <vern_> i just converted my ext3 filesystem to ext4, the release notes tell me to run grub-install after. what parameters do I give grub-install? Ubuntu is installed in /dev/sda3 while the first partitions are used for windows. much thanks for any answer i can get!
[00:21] <alcane> is there a way to save text from links2?
[00:21] <WS|Thermal> I installed 8.04 when it was in RC and it auto-updated to release later.
[00:21] <noodly-appendage> at least internet connections are fast enough so downloading 1 cd's worth of data doesn't take a week anymore :)
[00:21] <gene420> any xen experts??
[00:22] <MaT-dg> MaT-dg: And I like eyecandy, but at the same time it has to be clean and simple (not bloated like live messenger for example)
[00:22] <WS|Thermal> Vern_: Unless you set /boot/ to be a different partition
[00:22] <mrNotYou> noodly-appendage: lol;p here prices are extreme though so im only on 2mbps;/
[00:22] <Lord_Devi> MaT-dg: just switched back to KDE 4.2(Finally stable! Finally usable!) a couple days ago. It feels SO great to be back in an environment I can really control and alter to my liking. So much more functionality AND eye candy than gnome...
[00:22] <WS|Thermal> GRUB should be installed/stored on your Ubuntu partition.
[00:22] <mrNotYou> noodly-appendage: took about an hour or two to download last version;p not that tragic;p
[00:22] <WS|Thermal> Vern_: What parameters is it asking for?
[00:23] <Lord_Devi> MaT-dg: Hehe.. yeah, well clean and simple went out with window managers. Now we have 'environments'. I like it though... handy for the lazy.
[00:23] <hadis> We can update 9.04 online from 8.10 ,yes??
[00:23] <Lord_Devi> hadis: Just run 'update-manager -d' from within 8.10
[00:23] <mrNotYou> hadis: yeap
[00:23] <Lord_Devi> (while in gnome)
[00:24] <WS|Thermal> Hadis: I wouldn't recommend it.
[00:24] <musikgoat|main> hadis: yes,  run update-manager -d
[00:24] <armagheddonsgw> unfortunately the link is not helpful. i cant edit the necessary file for some stupid reason
[00:24] <vern_> hmm grub-install /dev/sda3 seems to work and my laptop now boots up correctly, i was just making sure because doing the exact same steps previously made my system unbootable
[00:24] <WS|Thermal> You can definitely do it; but upgrades are sometimes risky.
[00:24] <vern_> thanks thermal
[00:24] <musikgoat|main> WS|Thermal: why not?
[00:24] <WS|Thermal> Vern_: Download and burn Super Grub Disk.
[00:24] <WS|Thermal> You can use that to restore a FUBAR'd GRUB if you need to.
[00:25] <vern_> good tip, thanks
[00:25] <WS|Thermal> Musikgoat|main: <WS|Thermal> You can definitely do it; but upgrades are sometimes risky.
[00:25] <Lord_Devi> vern_: he meant to add "if you can make sense of it" ;)
[00:25] <WS|Thermal> I've had my install broken going from 6.06 to 6.10 beyond repair; and a number of other releases too. Its probably much smoother and more likely to succeed now, but a clean install seems to be the way to go.
[00:25] <Ned2> what if I just back everything up first? is that still risky?
[00:26] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: I did actually mean to add that. Silly me.
[00:26] <armagheddonsgw> ok, how can i restore my comp to its previous state? i.e. before installing ubuntu?
[00:26] <musikgoat|main> WS|Thermal: i'll give you that
[00:26] <WS|Thermal> Vern_: You're welcome.
[00:26]  * Lord_Devi grins
[00:26] <MaT-dg> musikgoat|main: hadis: It can be risky sometimes (7.10 to 8.04 no problems, but 8.04 to 8.10 failed here and had to do clean install anyway) AND you miss the new filesystem EXT4
[00:26] <WS|Thermal> musikgoat|main: I'm being paranoid, yes, but I just wanted to let him know that there are risks. Usually it works fine.
[00:26] <musikgoat|main> MaT-dg: you don't miss it if you don't want it ;-)
[00:26] <froosch> MaT-dg: is that the *buggy* e4 or something else?
[00:27] <MaT-dg> hadis: so whatever you do, ALWAYS make sure u have a backup of your important data
[00:27] <musikgoat|main> froosch: the major, i'm going to eat all you data bits for lunch, bug is fixed
[00:27] <WS|Thermal> MaT-dg: Does the conversion not work?
[00:27] <MaT-dg> musikgoat|main: why wouldn't u want it? It promises to be much faster
[00:27]  * Lord_Devi appears in a devil suit beside hadis, Don't bother! Backups take so much time. Wouldn't you rather be gaming?
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[00:27] <WS|Thermal> musikgoat|main: BtrFS looks promising :)
[00:27] <blerk> 12:30am BST, time to release 9.04 yet? :p
[00:27] <musikgoat|main> WS|Thermal: agreed
[00:27] <WS|Thermal> musikgoat|main: very excited about ext4 though.
[00:27] <klu> has 9.04 CD image been released?
[00:28] <MaT-dg> froosch: they said it will be stable in the final release (solved some bug in the RC)
[00:28] <Lord_Devi> Yay BtrFS! The ZFS killer!
[00:28] <mrNotYou> !outyet
[00:28] <WS|Thermal> klu: still in RC, but you can upgrade from the RC to the final release easily.
[00:28] <Icefyre> IS ext4 going to be much faster than ext3?
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> mrNotYou: nice factoid
[00:28] <Icefyre> I heard there are issues with data not being written in time
[00:28] <WS|Thermal> Icefyre: Early benchmarks indicate a HUGE boost.
[00:28] <WS|Thermal> But only in some areas.
[00:28] <klu> WS|Thermal, I heard it has been distributed to some server
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> Icefyre: ive heard it is faster but is a bit flakey right now
[00:28] <musikgoat|main> klu: lies
[00:28] <klu> JUst don't know the url
[00:28] <Icefyre> so it isn't as stable for hard reboots
[00:28] <digitaloktay> but i have freezez with ext4
[00:28] <Icefyre> cool
[00:28] <WS|Thermal> klu: Official releases are the best way to go... if its been "leaked" its fake.
[00:28] <klu> i c
[00:29] <klu> thx guys
[00:29] <Icefyre> anyone try the RC?
[00:29] <WS|Thermal> klu: Canonical doesn't leak intentionally; unlike Microsoft :P
[00:29] <mrNotYou> STABLE IS OUT ON FTP:p
[00:29] <klu> can't wait :)
[00:29] <Icefyre> I heard it has killer themes
[00:29] <WS|Thermal> mrNotYou: Whaa?
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> mrNotYou: just install beta then upgrade to stable
[00:29] <tuxFan> its jaunty out?
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> Icefyre: depends on DE
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty
[00:29] <Icefyre> I think tomorrow it comes out
[00:29] <WS|Thermal> unstable ubuntu is more stable than stable windows tbh
[00:29] <randomusr> hi, I'm trying to use an OS X theme by creating a link, how is this accomplished?
[00:29] <musikgoat|main> hi ActionParsnip
[00:29] <Icefyre> depends on DE?
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> hi musikgoat|main
[00:30] <Icefyre> what's a DE?
[00:30] <WS|Thermal> Death Eel.
[00:30] <WS|Thermal> Icefyre: What death eel do you have?
[00:30] <digitaloktay> DE = Deutschland Germany :P
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Icefyre: well if you use kde / gnome / fluxbox / lxde / flwm, the desktop will look different
[00:30] <Icefyre> lol
[00:30] <Icefyre> I meant the GNOME themes
[00:30] <MaT-dg> it's april 23, 01:30AM GMT+1 here... release for me! xD
[00:30] <Icefyre> rather
[00:30] <WS|Thermal> Icefyre: He meant desktop environment, we're just screwing with you.
[00:30] <Icefyre> the GTK themes
[00:30] <FloodBot2> Icefyre: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:30] <Icefyre> that ship with it
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Icefyre: you can use any gnome theme you can lay your hands on (?)
[00:31] <WS|Thermal> FloodBot2: Icefyre is flooding! :O
[00:31] <Icefyre> yeah, but its nicer not having to go to gnomelook everytime I install ubuntu
[00:31] <Lord_Devi> WS|Thermal: I the only unstable part of Ubuntu.. pretty much ever, are the proprietary drivers.
[00:31] <musikgoat|main> gnome-look.org
[00:31] <Lord_Devi> Either 3d drivers, or wifi drivers..
[00:31] <Icefyre> the brown theme is the only downside to it
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> Icefyre: i use lxde + kubuntu personally. i dont concern myself with "looks"
[00:31] <Icefyre> I know that website pretty well
[00:31] <Icefyre> go there often
[00:31] <Lord_Devi> WS|Thermal: Err sorry. I meant for ME.
[00:31] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: My friend had Vista/Ubuntu dual-booted.
[00:31] <Nasra> hi all, question, if I want to put back my Gnome Desktop on my test pc,  should I just sudo or have to uninstall KDE Desktop first?
[00:31] <Nasra> thanks
[00:31] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: Somehow he made Ubuntu corrupt the tiniest bit of data.
[00:31] <Lord_Devi> WS|Thermal: I hear those two do not play well together.
[00:31] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: Then he booted Vista and vista managed to hose the ENTIRE partition table.
[00:31] <Icefyre> I've managed to put ubuntu on some vista machines
[00:32] <Icefyre> works a lot faster
[00:32] <racecar56> back
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> Lord_Devi: thats a part of ANY distro, not just ubuntu
[00:32] <derrick-mary> hello I deleted both panels on ubuntu 8.04 64 how do i reinstall
[00:32] <Icefyre> people I do it to had no clue their pc could be so fast
[00:32] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: Vista just hates everything, including itself
[00:32] <Icefyre> why reinstall?
[00:32]  * Lord_Devi shakes his head
[00:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[00:32] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: I have unstable builds of Win7 here though, because of my dad, and its much better.
[00:32] <Icefyre> can't u just re-enable the panels?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> Icefyre: thats because vista's minimal requirements are higher than a default ubbuntu install
[00:32] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: Under NDA though so I can't say more than that.
[00:32] <Icefyre> Win7 isn't as good as XP
[00:32] <derrick-mary> cause my awn doesn't start up when i reboot
[00:32] <Jack_Sparrow> derrick-mary you should not need to reinstall, you should be able to reset the panels
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> Icefyre: if you want it faster, install puppy linux
[00:32] <Icefyre> in terms of performance
[00:32] <Icefyre> lol
[00:32] <derrick-mary> even with it being checked to do so
[00:32] <WS|Thermal> Icefyre: Win7 will be. Seriously.
[00:32] <Icefyre> I love puppy!
[00:32] <musikgoat|main> i wonder how many people are going to visit IRC when #ubuntu+1 is merged with #ubuntu,  wasn't there like 1800 or so people for the intrepid release
[00:33] <Icefyre> awesome distro
[00:33] <WS|Thermal> The beta SUCKS compared to the current builds.
[00:33] <Lord_Devi> WS|Thermal: I still haven't tried Vista even.. I only have XP for games, and the benchmarks frown on Vista performance numbers compared to Xp
[00:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Icefyre Please dont flood
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> derrick-mary: create a script to execute it and add it to !startup
[00:33] <derrick-mary> how do you do that?
[00:33] <Lord_Devi> WS|Thermal: For non DX10 games of course. I hope Win7 is a little less bloat than Vista
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> Icefyre: tried xpud? boots in about 4 seconds here
[00:33] <zach2825> hi guys
[00:33] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: Win7 is so much better. I love it.
[00:33] <Icefyre> what is the limit on sentences per second? I'm being warned against flooding...
[00:33] <Blaze_Boy> Problem: i installed ubuntu hardy on toshiba satellite A100 but bluetooth and modem are dead ? what i have to do to get them work ?
[00:33] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: The beta is only a glimpse of the improvements. Its actually really high quality stuff.
[00:33] <Nasra> hi all, question, if I want to put back my Gnome Desktop on my test pc,  should I just sudo or have to uninstall KDE Desktop first?
[00:34] <derrick-mary> action parsnip---how?
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> derrick-mary: i'd look into what scripting involves and work from there
[00:34] <WS|Thermal> Icefyre: Anything above 2 per minute.
[00:34] <Lord_Devi> WS|Thermal: Oh ok cool. I'll give that one a try then. It means more to me when it comes from a *buntu fella.
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> derrick-mary: or ask in #bash
[00:34] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: As much as I hate M$, (seriously), win7 actually excites me.
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> derrick-mary To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[00:34] <digitaloktay> Icefyre, join #ubuntu-release-party
[00:34] <Icefyre> Win7 looks just like vista with some of the stuff taken out
[00:34] <Icefyre> it is vista SP 2
[00:34] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: Its kind of funny when you work for Microsoft and you're son is an open-source advocate who hates Microsoft. Its an interesting dynamic.
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Nasra Did you ever uninstall it, ie can you get to it under options where you login to ubuntu
[00:35] <Lord_Devi> WS|Thermal: Well as a network tech, i'm just interested in how well Win7 plays with others.(Groupware squites, AD.. that sorta thing)
[00:35] <WS|Thermal> Icefyre: Much more than that, imo. The best way to summarize it is "vista that *works*"
[00:35] <thebloggu> what directories besides /home should i backup for an upgrade ?
[00:35] <Lord_Devi> :%s/squites/suites
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> thebloggu: depends what you use
[00:35] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: Can't tell you much on that. The network stack has seen some improvements.
[00:35] <Lord_Devi> WS|Thermal: I HATE fighting with WIndows on job :(
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> thebloggu: if you use samba, backup /etc/samba/smb.conf
[00:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[00:35] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: I suggest you grab a leaked build of win7 off some torrents, if you need to test it
[00:35] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: Install it on a VM or a non-production machine though.
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> thebloggu: if you use apache, backup /var/www
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> WS|Thermal Please stay on topic
[00:36] <thebloggu> ActionParsnip, i use samba indeed, no apache
[00:36] <WS|Thermal> Jack_Sparrow: Yeah, I did deviate there for a bit. Sorry.
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> thebloggu: you need to think about what you se and backup that, you should have a backup anyway if the data is important
[00:36] <WS|Thermal> No problem.
[00:36] <musikgoat|main> thebloggu: you may want to backup all of /etc
[00:36] <thebloggu> ActionParsnip, ok, thank you
[00:37] <thebloggu> musikgoat|main, ok, why ?
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> thebloggu: it contains a fewconfig files like hosts, resolv.conf, stuff like that
[00:37] <musikgoat|main> thebloggu: that holds all your configuration files, you can reference the backup if you find that a program doesn't work the way you remember
[00:38] <musikgoat|main> its usually pretty small in size as well
[00:38] <thebloggu> musikgoat|main, ActionParsnip  ok, thank you :)
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> thebloggu: if you havent modified stuff in thre then you dont need to bother
[00:38] <psychic> musikgoat
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> thebloggu: considring its 8Mb (on mine it is) you may as well, if its unneeded, you havent wasted much
[00:40] <musikgoat|main> psychic: yes?
[00:40] <psychic> i tried doing that what u told me but it shows up differnt in terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/156210/
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> thebloggu: cd /; clear; sudo du -skh *
[00:40] <mecca_> I just installed (and fully updated) Jaunty.  For some reason, ssh will not start when the machine reboots, even though I've verified that it is set up to auto start (via sysv-rc-conf as well as update-rc.d ssh defaults) Any ideas?
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> mecca_: sudo apt-get --reinstall install openssh-server
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> psychic What did you use as an editor?
[00:41] <musikgoat|main> psychic: you have not moved the second part of the last line to the next line
[00:41] <thebloggu> ActionParsnip, you're right
[00:41] <psychic> terminal
[00:41] <thebloggu> ActionParsnip, 16M	etc
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !editor
[00:41] <musikgoat|main> psychic: remember i said to move to 0/dev and hit enter after the 0
[00:41] <psychic> no i know i didnt see the mnt part
[00:41] <musikgoat|main> Jack_Sparrow: he's using nano
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[00:42] <mecca_> ActionParsnip: I've done that as well
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> thebloggu: may as well, eh
[00:42] <musikgoat|main> psychic: the $ means theres more to the line,
[00:42] <psychic> o ok i misread
[00:42] <Crash1hd> I dont have to worry about windows viruses on exe in ubuntu right?
[00:42] <Nasra> Jack_Sparrow: no, I did not uninstall it is still there ..have no try it yet...but if that's so...what should I do?
[00:42] <musikgoat|main> psychic: you must arrow over
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> mecca_: sudo apt-get --purge remove openssh-server; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[00:42] <Nasra> Jack_Sparrow:  and by the way mine show ...kubuntu when I reboot it
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Nasra you can set gnome as the default or read the factoid
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !puregnome
[00:43] <MaT-dg> trying to compile a plugin for pidgin on 8.10 but I get this (cryptical for me) error -> http://pastebin.com/d4c7c3300
[00:43] <psychic> i arrowed over and pressed enter
[00:43] <mecca_> ActionParsnip: Good point, I haven't completely removed it and re-installed.  I'll give it a shot, thanks
[00:43]  * Dolo is starting to lose it - when does 9.04 get released!?!
[00:43] <drinkycrow> what's the difference between .04 and .10 releases?
[00:43] <musikgoat|main> Dolo: better find what you lost
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> mecca_: worth ashot
[00:43] <Pici> drinkycrow: The month they were released.
[00:43] <aymen> hi
[00:43] <Pici> drinkycrow: 04 = April, 10 = october
[00:43] <Crash1hd> simNIX: I dont have to worry about windows viruses on exe in ubuntu right?
[00:43] <randomusr> I want to install an OSX theme but don't understand the concept, could someone explain this a bit?
[00:43] <Nasra> Jack_Sparrow: no need to uninstall it, correct?
[00:44] <Pici> !outyet | Dolo
[00:44] <aymen> i have problem can help me
[00:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Nasra Yes and no
[00:44] <carlitos__> maldito hijo  de  puta
[00:44] <drinkycrow> that makes sense
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> randomusr: http://www.howtoforge.com/mac4lin_make_linux_look_like_a_mac
[00:44] <musikgoat|main> psychic: so, are you figuring it out?
[00:44] <carlitos__> traes papel y jodes webon
[00:44] <Nasra> Jack_Sparrow: let me reboot it and see...brb thanks
[00:44] <musikgoat|main> !es | carlitos__
[00:44] <MaT-dg> Crash1hd: u don't have to worr about windows virusses at all
[00:45] <psychic> so should it look like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/156213/
[00:45] <musikgoat|main> psychic: yes
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> !ask | aymen
[00:45] <psychic> now just save?
[00:45] <Crash1hd> MaT-dg: ok can I clean a hdd that has a windows virus on it through some software on ubuntu?
[00:45] <musikgoat|main> psychic: but you can try commenting out the /mnt/
[00:45] <^Phantom2^> Okay, I'm back.
[00:45] <musikgoat|main> psychic: add a # to that line... before the /mnt
[00:46] <musikgoat|main> psychic: then save and exit
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Crash1hd clamav
[00:46] <Challenger> Hey, I'm looking for Finnish Ubuntu fans and the Finnish Ubuntu mailing list.
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !virus
[00:46] <Pici> !fi | Challenger
[00:46] <Crash1hd> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[00:46] <Challenger> :P
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> !finland
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> !finnish
[00:46] <Pici> ActionParsnip: I already did the factoid.
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> bah
[00:46] <inasmu> !askthebot
[00:46] <randomusr> that sucked
[00:47] <randomusr> let me try this again
[00:47] <^Phantom2^> I have a Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 950 Hybrid Stick tv-tuner, and I am having trouble getting ubuntu to recognize it and allow me to watch tv with it.  Is there anything I can do about this problem?
[00:47] <randomusr> could someone explain how to install a Theme like OSX?
[00:47] <EoL{s}> iceroot: Still there?
[00:47] <Pici> !changethemes | randomusr seen this
[00:47] <mrNotYou> randomusr: Yeap
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> randomusr: check that link, it will tll you how to configure it
[00:48] <randomusr> Thanks All
[00:48] <Jack_Sparrow> randomusr Look into cairo-dock and it has an osx theme
[00:48] <mrNotYou> randomusr: gnome-look.org. get an osx theme there. then get cairo-dock, it will allow you to put a dock like the os x dock on windows
[00:48]  * ^Phantom2^ sits and waits, while petting the cat
[00:48] <randomusr> mrNotYou I want to change the look of window managers, Icons, etc
[00:49] <mrNotYou> randomusr: you can get all of that from gnome-look.org
[00:49] <musikgoat|main> randomusr: gnome-look.org has that
[00:49] <randomusr> I know how to get the dock
[00:49] <mrNotYou> randomusr: then get cairo-dock and set the dock;)
[00:49] <mrNotYou> and ure done;)
[00:49] <maximo> Jack_Sparrow: rather uninstall kde desktop and install gnome desktop, whatis the command for doing that?
[00:49] <randomusr> I want my windows and everything to match lol
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> randomusr: search synaptic, you can install avant-window-navigator or cairo-dock
[00:49] <EoL{s}> If I shrink a partition using Windows Vista, and I choose "use largest continuous free space" installer option, will that affect any of my other partitions?
[00:50] <randomusr> OK again, I know hot to get the dock
[00:50] <randomusr> I want a better overall look
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !puregnome
[00:50] <randomusr> I'll check the themes page
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> EoL{s}: after shrinking, the largest contiguous space will be the space you made
[00:50] <maximo> Jack_Sparrow:  thanks
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> randomusr then what you want is subject and not really what we do here
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> maximo np
[00:50] <EoL{s}> ACtionParsnip: Yeah, but, the little bar shows Ubuntu 100% on the whole hard drive.
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> subjective
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> randomusr: look round for stuff to add is all i can suggest
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> EoL{s}: then its not right
[00:51] <djlinux64> is the 9.04 release in 5 hours, at midnight?
[00:51] <Pici> !outyet | djlinux64
[00:51] <MaT-dg> can I use windows driver for my webcam like u can use windows drivers for networkcard with ndiswrapper?
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> djlinux64 doubtful
[00:51] <psychic> musikgoat this right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/156216/
[00:51] <djlinux64> more like 29 hours?
[00:51] <EoL{s}> ACtionParsnip: Should I disregard it?
[00:51] <jsast21> join #ubuntu-release-party
[00:51] <Pici> djlinux64: More like when its done.
[00:51] <djlinux64> got it thx
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> EoL{s}: if you plan your partitions you do not have to resize as you can make the windows partition use only part of the drive
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> EoL{s}: no, do not disregard it
[00:52] <Othor> \join #linuxoutlaws
[00:52] <simNIX> i like them :0
[00:52] <g4lv4tr0n> just noticed countdown on ubuntu site has now changed from 1 day to go to coming soon
[00:52] <EoL{s}> ActionParsnip: I reduced the Windows Vista partition by about 17 gigabytes.
[00:53] <^Phantom2^> EoL{s}: good job
[00:53] <Pelle> Noob Q: I cant copy a simple folder! I first select cut, but then I cant paste it where I want it
[00:53] <EoL{s}> But it still shows 100% ubuntu, and I don't want that...
[00:53] <^Phantom2^> honestly, i'll never go past windows XP until Micro$haft puts out a fully working OS
[00:53] <^Phantom2^> besides, i like ubuntu a lot now
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> EoL{s}: Ive never used resize as i plan my partitions first
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> EoL{s}: so im not the guy to ask
[00:54] <g4lv4tr0n> jaunty has real good wine support :)
[00:54] <Pelle> paste is grayed out
[00:54] <EoL{s}> Oh, ok then.
[00:54] <g4lv4tr0n> i used to get access violation in intrepid with most things on wine
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> ^Phantom2^: xp rarely works
[00:55] <n2diy> does Ubuntu work with AIM?
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> g4lv4tr0n: wine is maintained by wine, its not got much to do with ubuntu
[00:55] <Pelle> someone know what I do wrong?
[00:55] <Rodya> I've managed to screw up my file permissions... When doing ls -ahl, I am seeing drwsrwsrwx for directories, and I don't know what the s is or how to make it go away, any help?
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> n2diy: theres pidgin
[00:55] <EoL{s}> ActionParsnip: I'll try to do it manually then. Just one thing, one guide told me to make the slack space 500mb, another told me to make it double my computer memory. Which is best?
[00:56] <wrice_> Pelle: You may not have the appropriate permissions to move the folder
[00:56] <g4lv4tr0n> yeah i know but in intrepid it was broke no matter what ver of wine you were using
[00:56] <sparta> when i try to do an aptitude update in ubuntu it gives the following error :http://paste.ubuntu.com/156220/
[00:56] <Pelle> how do I fix that wrice_? I want to move from home/pelle to usr/sbin
[00:56] <g4lv4tr0n> wow and bf2 would give access violation on both wine and cedega due to intrepid
[00:56] <sparta> can someone please check why?
[00:57] <lstarnes> sparta: are you still using 7.04?
[00:57] <wrice_> Pelle: Only root can paste into /usr/sbin.
[00:58] <^Phantom2^> it picks up s-video and composite but not tv
[00:58] <Pelle> wrice_: allright, how to do that?
[00:58] <sparta> yes
[00:58] <EoL{s}> Guess I'll go with four gigs. Thanks for the help, all.
[00:58] <pilif12p> Hi
[00:58] <efjc_> ypops or fetchyahoo, any rekomendations?
[00:59] <Idespnnr> anyone here familiar with boxee?
[00:59] <pilif12p> My task bar has dissapeared!
[00:59] <KyleK> can I use the 8.10 livecd to install to /dev/md0 or do i need to use a different installer?
[00:59] <pilif12p> Help please!
[00:59] <sparta> lstarnes: yes 7.04
[01:00] <lstarnes> sparta: support for that release ended back in october
[01:00] <pilif12p> Please
[01:00] <pilif12p> I need help
[01:00] <pilif12p> My task bar is gone!
[01:00] <lstarnes> pilif12p: just be patient and someone will answer you when they are able to
[01:00] <pilif12p> the bar at the bottom
[01:00] <pilif12p> okay
[01:01] <lstarnes> sparta: you should probably upgrade to a newer version like 8.04 or 8.10
[01:01] <lstarnes> pilif12p: is the whole bottom panel gone?
[01:01] <pilif12p> yeah
[01:01] <gardar> pilif12p, right click the panel at top and choose add panel
[01:01] <wrice_> Pelle: 'sudo mv'
[01:01] <gartral1> so, i have an nvidia 6200, how do i use the DVI port as main? right now, i have BOTH ports routed into my monitor, but DVI displays nothing, only VGA...
[01:01] <pilif12p> okay
[01:01] <pilif12p> but nothing is on there
[01:02] <Pelle> wrice_: i use the filebrowser in the desktop
[01:02] <Flynsarmy> New ubuntu today people! Lock your doors, empty your calendars because its upgrading time
[01:02] <usser> gartral1, unplug vga and restart xorg
[01:02] <pilif12p> Please?
[01:02] <pilif12p> Nothing on the pannel
[01:02] <lsbrum> How do I apply a patch to an installed program? The vsftpd is a bug with utf8 encoding and I found a patch.
[01:02] <^Phantom2^> well
[01:02] <zetheroo> is Jaunty not released yet?
[01:03] <usser> lsbrum, you have to recompile from sources
[01:03] <pilif12p> just email me at admin@pilif12p(dot)com
[01:03] <wrice_> Pelle: You'll want to open gnome-terminal and run 'sudo mv /home/pelle/source /usr/sbin/destination' or something similar
[01:03] <^Phantom2^> here's what works:  the tvtuner program picks up the input modes of my tvtuner (s-video and composite) without audio, and no tv signal is picked up
[01:03] <^Phantom2^> i'm using tvtime, btw
[01:03] <gardar> I'm not sure what timezone ubuntu will be released
[01:03] <gardar> should be GMT
[01:03] <gardar> which is now
[01:03] <mecca_> ActionParsnip: Thanks for all of the suggestions, the problem ended up being that /etc/rc.d/S16ssh was being executed before dhclient had grabbed an IP address so it freaked out.  I moved it to S99ssh and everythings working fine
[01:03] <gartral1> usser: restart xorg is ctrl+alt+backspace, right?
[01:03] <usser> gartral1, yes
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> mecca_: sweet
[01:04] <maximo> Jack_Sparrow: sorry to bother you but when I reboot I see the kubuntu logo on it (blue)...want to see Ubuntu logo instead, what do I do ?
[01:04] <maximo> thanks
[01:04] <Pelle> wrice_: Okey, I'll try it
[01:04] <usser> !info startupmanager | maximo
[01:04] <lsbrum> usser, Can I apply the patch and then make a .deb? You know a good manual for creating .deb packages?
[01:05] <usser> lsbrum, checkinstall is a great quick way to create deb packages of uncomplicated programs
[01:05] <mdg> Whats a good, quick way to share files over local network?
[01:05] <usser> !info checkinstall
[01:05] <maximo> usser: how do i do it then?
[01:05] <usser> lsbrum, pretty much ./configure and make like you would with a source code and then instead of make install use checkinstall
[01:05] <simNIX> mdg; sh fs or nfs or samba ?
[01:05] <^Phantom2^> How can I get tvtime to pick up the audio from my tv tuner?
[01:06] <usser> maximo, install startupmanager its pretty self-explanatory
[01:06] <lsbrum> usser, ok..
[01:06] <KyleK> can I use the 8.10 livecd to install to /dev/md0 or do i need to use a different installer?
[01:06] <maximo> ok
[01:06] <mdg> simNIX: What's the easiest to setup?
[01:06] <usser> ^Phantom2^, usually tuner is connected to the soundcard by an audio cable check that yours is.
[01:06] <simNIX> mdg; is it to share to windows boxes or only to *nix ?
[01:06] <mdg> simNIX: Only nix
[01:07] <usser> ^Phantom2^, then in tv time select audio source as "line in"
[01:07] <Sergiu> hi
[01:07] <Sergiu> when the ubuntu 9.04 will be realised?
[01:07] <Sergiu> )
[01:07] <usser> Sergiu, today
[01:07] <simNIX> nfs and ssh fs are both simple in setup - nfs = unencrypted / ssh fs is over ssh so encrypted - quick and simplest I think nfs
[01:07] <KyleK> mdg: nfs is quicker to setup but I've had more finicky problems
[01:07] <xerxes> in a few hours, Sergiu
[01:07] <usser> Sergiu, sorry tomorrow
[01:07] <^Phantom2^> mine is connected on the tvtuner physically
[01:07] <KyleK> but its tomorrow in my timezone! ;)
[01:08] <gardar> you can use nfs with ssh, and then it's encrypted
[01:08] <Sergiu> :D
[01:08] <^Phantom2^> it's part of the input cord for devices to plug into the tuner
[01:08] <xerxes> But you can take the daily snapshot also, Sergiu
[01:08] <psychic> musikgoat still in
[01:08] <psychic> ?
[01:08] <xerxes> !daily
[01:08] <simNIX> gardar, by default or by tunneling it ?
[01:08] <gardar> by tunneling it :)
[01:08] <Pelle> wrice_: ok it worked :) want to help me furher? I'm doing this: ddclient.wiki.sourceforge.net/
[01:08] <usser> ^Phantom2^, its ouput actually. where does the sound cable end up?
[01:08] <simNIX> worth considering ...
[01:08] <mdg> simNIX and KyleK - one box is running Mint 6 and has giver, the other box is mint 5 - no Giver
[01:08] <usser> ^Phantom2^, did the same setup work on windows?
[01:08] <^Phantom2^> it plugs into the dongle on the tuner
[01:09] <gardar> I use it when I mount outside of my local network
[01:09] <gardar> works just fine
[01:09] <^Phantom2^> usser: yes it did
[01:09] <maximo> usser:  it's say already installed the startupmananger....how do I choose the ubuntu one as a startup from rebooting?
[01:09] <maximo> thanks
[01:09] <usser> maximo, sudo startupmanager
[01:09] <maximo> did that
[01:09]  * mimor is away: zzz
[01:09] <usser> maximo, there's a list of boot splashes
[01:09] <maximo> where?
[01:10] <mimor> sorry for the away message
[01:10] <usser> ^Phantom2^, so the audio cable is connected to the soundcard?
[01:10] <reid> PROject-Emerald: whats up =P
[01:10] <usser> ^Phantom2^, mine was a straight, tvtuner audio out -> souncard line in
[01:10] <^Phantom2^> it's connected to the tv tuner
[01:10] <PROject-Emerald> Nm.
[01:10] <PROject-Emerald> How do you mount a .iso to make a bootable disk?
[01:10] <maximo> usser: sudo apt-get startupmanager ubuntu-desktop
[01:10] <usser> ^Phantom2^, so i just used line-in as a sound source in tvtime
[01:11] <reid> PROject-Emerald: you shouldn't need to mount it
[01:11] <usser> maximo, nope
[01:11] <Pelle> wrice_: now witch one is the perl-script, and how to I make a cache?
[01:11] <maximo> damn
[01:11] <reid> PROject-Emerald: just double click the iso file, and it should prompt you for what you want to do with it
[01:11] <reid> PROject-Emerald: one of those options are burn to CD/DVD
[01:11] <PROject-Emerald> I'm trying to put Kubuntu on a CD-R to make a bootdisk
[01:11] <usser> maximo, open startupmanager you'll see it
[01:11] <maximo> ok
[01:11] <PROject-Emerald> Will that make it bootable? I only have one CD left
[01:11] <Pelle> wrice_: and later, where is the "startup scripts"?
[01:12] <psychic> how do i save my modifications in terminal???
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: download the iso and open it with your cd writer, the iso is bootable
[01:12] <reid> PROject-Emerald: if it says "burn image to CD/DVD", then if the .iso is of a bootable CD, then it will be bootable
[01:13] <PROject-Emerald> Ok, I doubleclicked the Kubuntu-8.10 .iso and it brought up the Write to Disk menu. Should I burn or go into my programs and do?
[01:13] <reid> however, #ubuntu-server is asleep, can anyone here help me get VNC to connect to my server (running fluxbox)?
[01:13] <mrNotYou> !outyet
[01:13] <jdu> PROject-Emerald, if you want you could use wodim:   wodim -v dev=/dev/scd0 speed=0 kubuntu.iso
[01:13] <jdu> PROject-Emerald, oops  speed ought to me more like 8
[01:13] <wrice_> Pelle: I don't know much about DNS, but I'm pretty sure ddclient comes with example startup scripts.
[01:13] <PROject-Emerald> Haha
[01:14] <reid> PROject-Emerald: just do it through the write to disk menu
[01:14] <PROject-Emerald> ok
[01:14] <PROject-Emerald> Write Disc To:  CD-RW CRX216E or File Image?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: burn as slow as you can
[01:14] <Pelle> wrice_: okay thx for your help!
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: did you md5 check the iso?
[01:14] <reid> the release for jaunty has too been determined
[01:14] <wrice_> Pelle: yw
[01:14] <reid> PROject-Emerald: burn to CD writer
[01:14] <PROject-Emerald> No, I didn't. why?
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: it checks what you have downloaded is correct
[01:15] <PROject-Emerald> How do I do that?
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | PROject-Emerald
[01:15] <PROject-Emerald> thanks
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: md5 checking is ESSENTIAL
[01:15] <psychic> terminal help...
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> psychic: sup
[01:16] <psychic> ah thank u
[01:16] <psychic> how do i save modifications to a file in terminal
[01:17] <psychic> does it save if i just close it
[01:17] <psychic> ?
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> psychic: what editor have you used?
[01:17] <psychic> terminal
[01:17] <tsopp> That's not and editor. :P
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> psychic: terminal is not an editor
[01:17] <psychic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156216/
[01:17] <psychic> i edited it in terminal
[01:17] <reid> psychic: nano, vim, vi, gedit?
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> psychic: vi, nano are termial basd editors
[01:17] <psychic> nano
[01:17] <jdu> psychic, C^X
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> psychic: ok then the app is nano, not terminal
[01:17] <psychic> GNU nano
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> psychic: ctrl + x
[01:18] <PROject-Emerald> Ok, it says it's the Kubuntu ISO and it's all correct
[01:18] <psychic> oo ok
[01:18] <PROject-Emerald> Do I just doubleclick the ISO and burn it at the lowest speed?
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> psychic: then press y to save changes and press enter
[01:18] <psychic> thats how that works
[01:18] <reid> PROject-Emerald: yeah it should be fine
[01:18] <jdu> PROject-Emerald, yes, as an image
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: you could rightclick it and select open with app
[01:19] <PROject-Emerald> jdu: So, my options for "Burn To:" are    -CD-RW CRX216E or file image
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: just open the file with the application
[01:20] <rhsanborn> Does ubuntu come with an app to scan for available networks by default?
[01:20] <PROject-Emerald> I did, the Write to Disc application
[01:20] <rhsanborn> available wireless networks
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: no, like gnomebaker, k3b, whatever
[01:20] <PROject-Emerald> would Brasero work?
[01:20] <totto-drummond> Where can we get the final version of Ubuntu 9.04
[01:21] <depok_hitori_jan> When will jaunty be released exactly? What time in UTC
[01:21] <tsopp> rhsanborn, yes it comes with network manager.
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: sure, choose that
[01:21] <Flannel> totto-drummond, depok_hitori_jan: We don't know.  Please join #ubuntu-release-party to wait for it.  There's no "set time"
[01:21] <jdu> PROject-Emerald, odd,  probably.   I usually use wodim.  The main thing is to burn it *as* an image at a a low speed
[01:21] <PROject-Emerald> Ok. Would 11x do or should I go as low as 1x?
[01:22] <tsopp> totto-drummond, it comes ou ton the 23rd, you can either get it from the website as an ISO or if you have an existing install use update-manager.
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: slower the better
[01:22] <jdu> PROject-Emerald, probably 11x is fine though .  4x-8x is probably best
[01:22] <PROject-Emerald> Ok. Burning.
[01:22] <jdu> good luck!
[01:22] <PROject-Emerald> I did it @ 5
[01:22] <PROject-Emerald> How long should this take?
[01:23] <psychic> now last night i ran out of hard drive space so i deleted 9 gigs of duplicates videos and music so i have some extra space but my screen size shrunk down to where theres a black border around the screen about an inch and a half like a frame and all of my desktop icons and files disappeared and.... my xfce menu is all wacked out
[01:23] <jdu> a while...
[01:23] <maximo> Jack_Sparrow:  got it thanks alot
[01:23] <psychic> can some one help me out?
[01:23] <sahak> hello
[01:23] <sahak> where can I download Ubuntu 9.04?
[01:23] <joan_0> hi ! I have a problem with Ubuntu Jaunty for netbook. When I start with USB the boot stops and show (initramfs) promt. What is this ?
[01:24] <joan_0> sahak, ubuntu.com, there are a banner who allows you to download
[01:24] <psychic> o and another thing b4 i lost my desktop icons the desktop switched from the oem xubuntu to the theme from ubuntu intrepid
[01:24] <psychic> ?????
[01:24] <PROject-Emerald> wait, is Jaunty out? Or are they still dling RC?
[01:24] <joan_0> RC
[01:24] <jdu> PROject-Emerald, tomorrow
[01:24] <PROject-Emerald> Ok
[01:24] <psychic> it switched by it self that is
[01:25] <psychic> anyone want to try  and tackle it
[01:25] <joan_0> Anyone knows what is initramfs prompt ?
[01:25] <sahak> joan_0: the banner leads to the release candidate. I want the final release.
[01:25] <psychic> my computer is pultergeisted...
[01:25] <biggerfisch> sahak: its not out yet
[01:25] <joan_0> sahak, you mut wait xD
[01:25] <thirdwheel_> hey all, i've set up my sudoers file like so: http://codepad.org/p4ez6qvb - but the openvisor user still can't do any of the commands I've set - it still asks for a password and won't let it through
[01:25] <sahak> i am very impatient
[01:25] <thirdwheel_> psychic, say what?
[01:25] <jdu> phychic, did you delete config files too?
[01:25] <psychic> did u read all that
[01:25] <psychic> ?
[01:26] <jdu> psychic, well you said that you deleted duplicate files... normally that would be unrelated to the problems you described...
[01:26] <psychic> no i delted all that stuff after the problems occured
[01:26] <xerxes> Which ubuntu version is the most secure?
[01:26] <joan_0> I have a problem with Ubuntu Jaunty for netbook. When I start with USB the boot stops and show (initramfs) promt. What is this ?
[01:27] <racecar56> bacj
[01:27] <racecar56> back
[01:27] <psychic> no its stuff i downloaded it was duplicates of vids ad music from youtube
[01:27] <psychic> i thought having more than 3.3 mb of hard drive space would fix it lol
[01:28] <jdu> joan_0, Your kernel wasn't loaded properly.
[01:28] <psychic> if some one could p.m. me i have to grab my laundry
[01:28] <joan_0> I tried with 2 USB, and I check the md5sum for the iso
[01:28] <simNIX> why not share answers also in room so other can maybe learn from it ?
[01:28] <digitaloktay> joan_0, join /j #ubuntu+1
[01:28] <jdu> psychic, try creating a new user account.
[01:28] <utferd> hi
[01:29] <utferd> is 9.10 released?
[01:29] <jdu> joan_0, is this from the iso?
[01:29] <jdu> utferd, tomorrow
[01:29] <utferd> jdo, time?
[01:29] <joan_0> jdu what is the diference between channels ?
[01:29] <utferd> now , its 03:29 am
[01:29] <utferd> :D
[01:29] <digitaloktay> but not 9.10 :D
[01:29] <jdu> utferd, not sure.
[01:29] <digitaloktay> 9.04
[01:30] <thirdwheel_> 10:29am here
[01:30] <utferd> thirdwheel_, australia?
[01:30] <digitaloktay> 2:30 here
[01:30] <thirdwheel_> yep
[01:30] <loquitus_of_bor1> anybody notice that the remote desktop viewer in Ubuntu (and perhaps in general) does not refresh properly? as in, when I am viewing a remote desktop, what I am seeing is very stale... I can tell because the clock is WAY behind
[01:30] <jdu> joan_0, #ubuntu+1 is over jaunty
[01:30] <utferd> digitaloktay, turkey?
[01:30] <joan_0> oks, sorry :D
[01:30] <loquitus_of_bor1> what time, ZULU, is Jaunty officially out?
[01:30] <thirdwheel_> hey all, i've set up my sudoers file like so: http://codepad.org/p4ez6qvb - but the openvisor user still can't do any of the commands I've set - it still asks for a password and won't let it through
[01:30] <digitaloktay> utferd, germany ;) turkey 3.30
[01:31] <utferd> digitaloktay, ok i get it, bende ordayım zaten
[01:31] <utferd> :)
[01:31] <digitaloktay> utferd, hosgeldin ;)
[01:31] <pio1> Ioquitus_of_bor1: my remote desktop doesn't refresh at all. I have to terminate then reconnect my session for it to refresh.
[01:31] <utferd> digitaloktay, eyw, ubuntu-tr ye bekleriz
[01:31] <loquitus_of_bor1> pio1: it is supposed to be synced so you can in fact interact even with the hose
[01:31] <loquitus_of_bor1> host
[01:31] <loquitus_of_bor1> but it is totally horribly behind
[01:32] <rhsanborn> It looks like network manager is starting by default. Perhaps this is an issue with the notification area, which is something I seem to remember. Is there any way to make sure it's present and activated/
[01:32] <rhsanborn> ?
[01:32] <pio1> loquitus_of_bor1: I know mate, I was just saying I'm running jaunty RC with all updates and mine does the same thing.
[01:32] <pio1> loquitus_of_bor1: It's very annoying. I use Remote desktop all the time.
[01:32] <joan_0> jdu is not ISO, is .img . I make the USB with unetbootin
[01:33] <loquitus_of_bor1> pio1: ok... I am on Jaunty too... same deal, although I am pretty sure it was doing this on Intrepid as well...
[01:34] <loquitus_of_bor1> pio1: I don't really understand what it is doing. I can see the mouse moving on the host, but the clock is exactly where it was when I connected!
[01:34] <finaltune> hello
[01:34] <pio1> loquitus_of_bor1: Yeah! that's exactly the same as mine. Obviously it's a bug. Maybe we should report it at launchpad?
[01:34] <finaltune> i can't read the ascii CAPTCHA in ubuntu QA...
[01:34] <finaltune> can you please help me?
[01:34] <racecar56> is it ok to use announced status messages here?
[01:35] <misho> hi guys
[01:35] <LjL> !away > racecar56    (racecar56, see the private message from ubottu) if you mean these, no
[01:35] <loquitus_of_bor1> pio1: yah we could... is this a Jaunty bug or is that application itself hosed? I am not sure where to draw the line between complaining to Ubuntu vs not doing so.
[01:35] <loquitus_of_bor1> pio1: it is weird. the mouse moves but does nothing of apparent intelligence.
[01:36] <pio1> loquitus_of_bor1: No, It's not the application. The application works in Linux Mint, which is based on intrepid.
[01:36] <loquitus_of_bor1> pio1: ok... so it indeed is the Jaunty client, you are suggesting...?
[01:37] <pio1> loquitus_of_bor1: Yes, I would think so.
[01:37] <jdu> joan_0, your problem is occurring before the kernel starts as ubuntu is trying to configuration, but fails.... There could be any number of reasons why
[01:38] <misho> has anyone upgraded to jaunty final release?
[01:38] <KoolKat33> i'm having an issue in 8.04 when i bootup my monitor goes into sleep mode when the gui loads, any ideas?
[01:39] <finaltune> i really can't read the capture in Ubuntu QA
[01:39] <joan_0> jdo, I find in lp that is a bug of the RC, not my fault. Thanx a lot for the help. I must wait for final relesase :D Good night !
[01:39] <unitedpotsmokers> hey guys, jaunty will launch today rite?
[01:39] <^Phantom2^> '
[01:39] <LjL> !jaunty
[01:39] <jdu> joan_0, oh well, hope it will be fixed.
[01:40] <misho> well at my place it is april 23.  :)))))
[01:40] <unitedpotsmokers> LjL:: if jaunty launch, then this channel can talk about jaunty rite?
[01:40] <pio1> misho: me too, where are you at?
[01:40] <LjL> yes. but it's not out NOW. so please discuss it in #ubuntu-release-party.
[01:40] <KoolKat33> i'm having an issue in 8.04 when i bootup my monitor goes into sleep mode when the gui loads, any ideas?
[01:41] <zvacet> unitedpotsmokers: when it is out yes
[01:41] <misho> piol: serbia uzice
[01:41] <misho> sorry pio1
[01:42] <misho> pio1 : where are u?
[01:42] <pio1> mish: Australia.
[01:42] <jdu> KoolKat33, what if you go to a virtual terminal?
[01:42] <misho> pio1: ohhh surfing
[01:42] <simNIX> a resolution your monitor cant do ?
[01:42] <Blaze_Boy> Problem: i installed ubuntu hardy on toshiba satellite A100 but modem is dead ? what i have to do to get it work ?
[01:42] <luminoso> on fiile galaries
[01:43] <luminoso> how do i move a file? i selec a file. i click on move, then what?
[01:43] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone help in this discussion http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1132791
[01:43] <KoolKat33> i can ctrl+alt+f2 to get to prompt, and the monitor comes back fine
[01:43] <simNIX> KoolKat33, a resolution your monitor cant do ?
[01:43] <luminoso> sorry wrong channel
[01:44] <Blaze_Boy> Help
[01:44] <pio1> blaze_boy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto?action=show&redirect=SettingUpModems
[01:44] <zvacet> luminoso : with mv command look at man mv
[01:44] <KoolKat33> how can i change the res from prompt?
[01:44] <jdu> luminoso, drag an drop
[01:45] <luminoso> wrong channel. this question was to #tikiwiki
[01:45] <luminoso> sorry
[01:45] <H3XiL3D> luminoso eheeh :)
[01:45] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone help in this discussion http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1132791
[01:45] <simNIX> KoolKat33, I think by switch off gdm and then edit xorg.conf (after backing up current) ... and then startx to test
[01:46] <KoolKat33> can i pm you please?
[01:46] <simNIX> rather have conversation here - that ways others can help and learn also ...
[01:46] <jdu> PerryArmstrong, you can use apt-proxy on the server to share updates.  The cd could potentially be booted from the network and installed.
[01:47] <KoolKat33> when i edit xorg.conf i can't find the area for screen properties
[01:48] <PerryArmstrong> jdu; so through this apt-proxy...i can boot the cd from the network
[01:48] <PerryArmstrong> ??
[01:48] <simNIX> KoolKat33, try on root console; /etc/init.d/gdm stop (x off) -> then maybe this helps; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973&highlight=refresh+rate+howto  after modifiying try startx to load x and see if any errors
[01:48] <digitalpsyko> anyone have the dell e6400 with  the 9cell and 12 cell battery plate? i was wondering how i can get a more accurate battery reading? ubuntu ftw.
[01:48] <jdu> PerryArmstrong, no apt-proxy would only handle updates through the server.
[01:48] <KoolKat33> thank you..i'll let ya know what happens
[01:49] <jdu> PerryArmstrong, you want to use pxe booting for the install without cds, or preseeding
[01:49] <dft_> Is there a nautilus addon that will mount ISO's as loopback devices?
[01:49] <simNIX> k
[01:49] <maodun> i set up a functioning ssh server on an ubuntu box a while back and then left it alone. i recently tried to log in, and my connection continually timed out. i had someone hook up a mouse and keyboard to the server and, voila, it worked. i'm guessing the machine went into hibernation or some such since no one had touched it for a while and thus the ssh server went down. is that possible? and if so, how can i disable such sleep / hibernat
[01:49] <PerryArmstrong> jdu; you mean the one given here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer  i didnt understand what you said
[01:50] <simNIX> KoolKat33, specific pay atention to the bit; "Find your monitors manual (manufacturers website and Google are useful).
[01:50] <simNIX> Look for hozizontal sync and vertical refresh rates, also if bandwidth or maximum dot clock / pixel clock is mentioned, write it down."
[01:50] <jdu> PerryArmstrong, that should work, I think
[01:51] <jdu> PerryArmstrong, basically, once it set up on the server, the clients need to be set to boot off the network.
[01:51] <zvacet> good night and see you soon
[01:52] <PerryArmstrong> jdu; okk.. all the clients are connected by LAN
[01:52] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, apt-proxy sometimes failed here so I went for a local mirror with apt-mirror
[01:52] <jdu> PerryArmstrong, Another way is to use the cd in all the clients but to specify a .cfg file over the network.
[01:53] <simNIX> with apt-mirror you can also setup to grab updates
[01:53] <PerryArmstrong> jdu; this is getting a bit complicated
[01:53] <Sertse> what's the default wallpaper for jaunty? I expected more of a fuss in the forums, but I'm not seeing anything
[01:54] <Sertse> I know theme is still human
[01:54] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; so will 160GB HDD and 1GB ram suffice for it?
[01:54] <optimo_praim> hello, how can I include the usernames in the logon window when ubuntu boots up?
[01:54] <jdu> PerryArmstrong, yes. The file would supply the answers to all the questions when installing so all you would have to would be to insert the cd and tell it where the file is.
[01:55] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, I only mirror i386 and thats around 22Gb, the 1Gb ram is overkill but nice to have - I serve it out with vsftpd to my clients
[01:55] <StanLangers> Hey guys whats the situation with wubi with the new realese?
[01:55] <Pelle11> is Ubuntu using redhat style rc files and demon mode? and what does that mean?
[01:55] <jdu> PerryArmstrong, I haven't actually done exactly that before, but I have heard it works.
[01:55] <kitche> !upstart | Pelle11
[01:55]  * jdu has to go
[01:56] <simNIX> preseed works realy nice - that way I can fully automated install
[01:56] <StanLangers> Will wubi be available with the new Jaunty release?
[01:56] <genii> Gah, wubi
[01:56] <Pelle11> thx kitche!
[01:56] <evilaim> hey all
[01:56] <simNIX> StanLangers, isnt it already out with 8.10 ?
[01:56] <StanLangers> Yes its available for 8.10
[01:56] <evilaim> There has to be an easier way to change the splash screen.
[01:57] <casslab> hi
[01:57] <StanLangers> What im wondering is will it be able to install the new 9.04 Jaunty?
[01:57] <optimo_praim> esta de weba
[01:57] <Pici> !jaunty
[01:57] <tzanger> good evening; can anyone assist me in bringing up my wifi from the command line (it works fine if I boot to gui, but I'm having some trouble with the GUI that I'd like to debug through ssh)
[01:57] <casslab> like, can ubuntu help me correct my lack of penile erections? (in english: halp my peen not up; can lunix halp ?!)
[01:57] <tzanger> I'm not sure how to tell ubuntu to bring up eth1 just lke networkmanager does in the gui
[01:57] <evilaim> Does anyone know an easier way to change my splash screen?
[01:57] <StanLangers> ?
[01:57] <PerryArmstrong> jdu; somebody also suggested apt-cacher
[01:58] <evilaim> other then doing some weird linking and stuff?
[01:58] <evantandersen> casslab it can surf to porn sites...
[01:58] <casslab> evaluser: yes, PEE ON IT.
[01:58] <kdask> could anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system?
[01:58] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; what do you mean by overkill
[01:58] <detrate> s/casslab/troll/
[01:58] <LjL> casslab: please, take this channel seriously. thank you.
[01:58] <kitche> !usplash | evilaim have you tried this?
[01:59] <hadis> serious.
[01:59] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, with apt-cacher I had that clients borked on some files that were corupted while apt-cacher grabbed it - I then had to manualy remove it from pool and then it would be regrabbed
[01:59] <casslab> LjL: YA~1~```11 I'm taking this channel very SRSLY!1
[01:59] <LjL> !ops | casslab
[01:59] <StanLangers> So will wubi be able to install Jaunty? 9.04?
[02:00] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; so aptproxy is better??
[02:00] <casslab> LjL: m
[02:00] <casslab> pm
[02:00]  * Sergiu_ г
[02:00] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, apt-mirror was best fit here
[02:00] <evilaim> wow, that's a lot of steps just for a splash screen
[02:01] <GillaGal> I have an Intel Q8200 Quad core processor. If I install Ubuntu 8.10 32 bit will I still be able to use all 4 cores?
[02:01] <simNIX> apt-proxy gave me simular coruption probs at times
[02:01] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; whats really the difference between apt-mirror, apt-proxy and apt-cacher
[02:01] <kdask> could anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system?
[02:02] <jonathan3> what is the difference between linux and a computer ?
[02:02] <StanLangers> Just wondering if wubi will be available to install Jaunty 9.04?
[02:02] <casslab> what exactly is a "troll"? I have LjL in my PM; begging me to stop
[02:02] <casslab> wtf
[02:02] <simNIX> apt-proxy and apt-cacher are mostly the same; if a cliet requests a file they grab it for thhat cleint and store it for use for next client wanting the same - apt-mirror is a way to download have a full mirror (with posiblity only i386 or any arch)
[02:02] <casslab> LjL: STOP private msging me, PLEASE!
[02:03] <kdask> lol
[02:03] <jonathan3> lol
[02:03] <jonathan3> hi everybody
[02:03] <Galadrielhim> I m from Mars. How can I store a radio station in rytmbox... The sistem is asking me for ttx/html decoder. Can you help me now?I am easy
[02:03] <Rayford> Hey.  Anyone use ESRI BusinessMAP 5?
[02:03] <jonathan3> me
[02:04] <mitchell> what timw is jaunty gonna be available???
[02:04] <Rayford> Jonathan3: you do?
[02:04] <Rayford> Do you own a copy of it?
[02:04] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, simpler put; proxy programs grab only that requsted (and in my experience sometimes wrongly) and apt-mirror just downloads everithing
[02:04] <jonathan3> sure
[02:04] <jonathan3> need it?
[02:04] <Rayford> ya
[02:04] <pio1> loquitus_of_bor1: are you still here?
[02:04] <zakk> could someone take a look at this please
[02:04] <zakk> http://pastebin.com/m44f38d45
[02:04] <mitchell> does anyone know?
[02:05] <kdask> could anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system?
[02:05] <mitchell> what time jaunty is available?
[02:05] <tgr> hi i was wondering if the upgrade that comes out tomorrow will be faster or lighter than 8.04 i am considering upgrading
[02:05] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; so i think apt-mirror works better
[02:05] <simNIX> I agree
[02:05] <Galadrielhim> sakrabidelbadelbudel
[02:05] <josh977> Jaunty release tomorrow. Anyone throwing any wild parties?
[02:05] <pio1> tgr: how much RAM do you have.
[02:05] <Galadrielhim> Answer me please
[02:06] <jonathan3> 3go
[02:06] <kdask> what timezone josh977
[02:06] <josh977> Central Standard
[02:06] <simNIX> also in light you wanting to mirror security updates; what if you update once a day and one hour after that a big hole is plugged ... I tend to grab updates just from the source
[02:06] <kdask> could anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system?
[02:06] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; i can't trust the community docs for this....they are a bit incomplete always....is there any material that has been written out of true experience
[02:07] <dft_> zakk: what command did you execute?
[02:07] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; for this apt-mirror
[02:07] <zakk> dft_: I was just upgrading my installed packages
[02:07] <dft_> kdask: do you have a 64bit install already?
[02:07] <zakk> dft_: and then if I install anything new now I get that message
[02:07] <kdask> dft_ yes
[02:07] <dft_> zakk: looks liek you're missing some files
[02:07] <zakk> dft_: yup
[02:07] <dft_> kdask: !schroot
[02:08] <dft_> kdask: !dchroot
[02:08] <dft_> !dchroot
[02:08] <dft_> !schroot
[02:08] <dft_> anyways
[02:08] <kdask> !fruit
[02:08] <Pici> !msgthebot
[02:08] <zakk> !chroot
[02:08] <dft_> kdask: lookup schroot
[02:08] <ccidral> does anyone know what time will ubuntu 9.04 be released?
[02:08] <ccidral> i'm anxious :)
[02:09] <kdask> thanks zakk
[02:09] <DanC> I've got an msi wind and I want to run the ubuntu remix on it; any suggestions about how to get there?
[02:09] <zakk> sure
[02:09] <Pici> !outyet | ccidral
[02:09] <thahauss_> Hi everyone, I'm new to ubuntu (running 9.04) an am trying to get 'appearance preferences > themes' to have a transparent effect to match my emerald theme, can someone please tell me how 2 do this?
[02:09] <Pelle11> how do I "enable automatic startup when booting"
[02:09] <ccidral> Pici thanks
[02:09] <wgrant_> thahauss_: You need #ubuntu+1.
[02:09] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, I dont get -> this is all I have to do to get it working; http://pastebin.com/d93480ed
[02:09] <dft_> zakk: can you apt-get that particular kernel image first?
[02:09] <wgrant_> thahauss_: Ubuntu 9.04 is not yet released.
[02:09] <zakk> dft_: ok I'll try that
[02:10] <gartral2> how do i daemonize a running proccess?
[02:10] <zakk> gartral2: ctrl+z then bg
[02:10] <zakk> gartral2: but I think you still need the terminal open
[02:10] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, Ill consider writing a litle article on it soon
[02:10] <zakk> gartral2: so your best bet is to run everything under screen
[02:10] <FrozenFire> I've been getting pulsing latency issues under Ubuntu since I started using it about 3 years ago. Does this sound like the ext3 fsync issue? I especially notice it when watching a Flash video, such as on Youtube.
[02:10] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; ohh so you have a blog??
[02:11] <zakk> dft_: http://pastebin.com/m209e5088
[02:11] <philsf> how can I pin ppa.launchpad.net (instead of the repository, i.e., hardy, intrpid, jaunty...)
[02:11] <philsf> ?
[02:11] <gartral2> meh, i just needed it one-off, i opened pidgin through terminal cause it crashed the last time i tryed opening it, oh well, musta been a one-timer
[02:11]  * DanC re-discovers wubi...
[02:11] <KujiUn> Is there any way to remore desktop view someone using the same wireless network as me?
[02:12] <simNIX> I got a domain week ago orso - not found time yet to put nifo up - working on it ..
[02:12] <genii> !pin
[02:12] <kdask> could anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system? isnt there a faster command someone could tell me?
[02:12] <dft_> zakk: nm, just saw a few lines down
[02:13] <philsf> genii, that doesn't answer my question, I read it
[02:13] <Juls4> Hi guys, I've got a problem. I updated my firefox icon (with a blue icon to match my theme) in /usr/lib/firefox_3.0.8/icon with a .png and two .xpm. However now all I get is a default no icon page looking thing. Any suggestions???
[02:13] <coskund> hi
[02:14] <Crash1hd> does ubuntu support dual moniters?
[02:14] <simNIX> x does; yes
[02:14] <kdask> could anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system? isnt there a faster command someone could tell me?
[02:14] <dft_> kdask: no
[02:14] <^Blizzerand^> !welcome
[02:15] <philsf> kdask, what exactly do you want to do?
[02:15] <dft_> you need to setup a 32bit jail to run those apps
[02:15] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; i didnt get what you said..anyways this is my blog.. http://ossarchives.blogspot.com
[02:15] <kdask> i want to install adobe flash
[02:15] <kdask> philsf:
[02:15] <KoolKat33> simnix:: i have returned
[02:15] <KoolKat33> all is well
[02:15] <simNIX> KoolKat33, cool
[02:15] <dft_> kdask: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[02:15] <philsf> kdask, in amd64?
[02:15] <Crash1hd> simNIX: I have downloaded and burnt and running the cd right now how would I go about setting up dual windows?
[02:15] <kdask> yes philsf
[02:15] <webbles> need to upgrade from gutsy, can't apt-get update manager core, any ideas?
[02:15] <philsf> kdask, what  ubuntu release?
[02:15] <kdask> 8.10
[02:16] <GillaGal> I have an Intel Q8200 Quad core processor. If I install Ubuntu 8.10 32 bit will I still be able to use all 4 cores?
[02:16] <tgr> i have 2 gb ram
[02:16] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, I tried to say; no I dont have a blog yet, but I did register a domain where I am goin to put info up on soon
[02:16] <webbles> gilla yes
[02:16] <wgrant_> dft_: That's four years old...
[02:16] <dft_> zakk: does that kernel image even exist under /boot?
[02:16] <philsf> webbles, there is an archive for EOL releases, google for that
[02:16] <genii> philsf: See sections 3.8 through 3.10 of http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html
[02:16] <webbles> thanks
[02:16] <dft_> wgrant_: first howto I googled
[02:16] <GillaGal> webbles well then what is the advantage of 64 bit?
[02:16] <KoolKat33> i will say it was kind of a pain, i had to unload the driver, reinstall, unload gnome, THEN edit config, loaded up Gnome and it works!
[02:16] <KoolKat33> thank you for the link
[02:16] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; you are welcome to contribute in my blog depending on your interest
[02:17] <kdask> philsf: 8,10
[02:17] <simNIX> gladely shared KoolKat33 it some time back also realy helped me
[02:17] <webbles> 64 bit is needed to take advantage of memory greater than 4 gigs
[02:17] <webbles> and also the ability to use 64 bit registers
[02:17] <GillaGal> webbles Ok so for a desktop/media box it will be ok at 32bit?
[02:18] <tgr> x
[02:18] <kdask> webbles: whats 64 bit registers?
[02:18] <webbles> you will be fine Gilla
[02:18] <dft_> kdask: here's an uptodate howto
[02:18] <dft_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=733595
[02:18] <philsf> kdask, there's an amd64 version of adobe flash
[02:18] <genii> philsf: pinning by origin is likely what you want to do
[02:18] <philsf> !partner | kdask
[02:18] <kdask> wait i dont have 4 GB of ram
[02:18] <wgrant_> dft_: That's still out of date.
[02:18] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, it may take ma a while but once done I will be behind simnix.info
[02:19] <philsf> genii, thanks, but I think that also doesn't help, or I misunderstood... I don't want to pin the package version, since this way I might 1) loose ability to upgrade 2) must do it per package, aiui
[02:19] <simNIX> Ill have a look at yours
[02:19] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; okk
[02:19] <kdask> whats 64 bit registers?
[02:19] <dft_> wgrant_: well then what is the bleading edge way?
[02:19] <philsf> genii, also, AIUI, the origin is the release, no?
[02:19] <wgrant_> kdask: If you don't already know, you don't need to.
[02:19] <meoblast001> by any chance is it ok to get autotools support in here? or is that offtopic?
[02:19]  * dft_ can't spell tonight
[02:19] <genii> philsf: origin is the repo
[02:19] <wgrant_> dft_: Flash doesn't need an i386 chroot. Hasn't for a couple of years.
[02:19] <wolter> is there anyway I can upgrade to the ubuntu release candidate?
[02:19] <simNIX> only 10 euro for 1 year a domain so I ditch dyndns - )
[02:19] <kdask> so i dont need 64 bit?
[02:19] <wgrant_> dft_: Firefox will prompt to install it, even on amd64.
[02:19] <JDShewey> So... I want to set up a dual head setup. I want KDE on one monitor, and a virtualbox VM on the other, but I want to use compiz and keep the ability to use the edge flip. I can't to stack the monitors, so I would like to have some sort of key combination to switch which monitor the mouse/keyboard is bound to. Is this possible?
[02:19] <dft_> wgrant_: I know, I didn't realize that was his issue, nm then
[02:20] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; just a doubt; can my desktop system make updations from the server at college with this apt-mirror
[02:20] <Pelle112> How do I get ddclient to start at every boot?
[02:20] <dft_> wgrant_: I needed it for the nessus gui
[02:20] <wolter> Pelle112, add it to System > Preferences > Sessions
[02:20] <philsf> genii, yes, I confused it with a(archive). what's the origin for ppas?
[02:20] <Pelle112> thx wolter
[02:20] <genii> philsf: The origin is the repository URL
[02:21] <kdask> wgrant_: i ask because i want to know if i need 64 bit or not
[02:21] <andr3s> one question: if i install xfce desktop extension with sudo in my ubuntu os, i changed the os to xubuntu?
[02:21] <philsf> genii, thanks, I think this is what I missed
[02:21] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, your home desktop has to connect over the internet to college ftp server serving out what apt-mirror sownloaded or are you on campus ?
[02:21] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, or http server
[02:21] <genii> philsf: np
[02:22] <Pelle112> wolter, btw is that the same as a deamon?
[02:22] <powtrix> hi. can I install java on ubuntu 8.10 64-bits ?
[02:22] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; i didnt set the server up still at campus... i need to collect all information and manuals and then start the work
[02:22] <h8red> heya
[02:22] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, clear; but I meen once setup ...
[02:22] <andrew_> connect
[02:22] <kdask> whats 64 bit registers anyone?
[02:23] <philsf> kdask, google
[02:23] <JDShewey> 64 bit registers are the width of variables in a 64 bit processor
[02:23] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, I would keep the mirror localy since if its Intrnet facing biger change of it getting cacked ..
[02:23] <mutilator> how do ya change file association defualts
[02:23] <JDShewey> 32 bit processors have 32 bit registers
[02:23] <East_Coast_Girl> good evening folks :)
[02:24] <simNIX> ...and all clients install from it ...
[02:24] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; i didnt understand what you said atall
[02:24] <powtrix> i tried to link libnpjp2 but the java does not work on firefox3.
[02:24] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; i didnt understand what you said *at all
[02:24] <wgrant_> mutilator: To change the application with which a file type opens, you can right-click on such a file and find the last tab.
[02:24] <kdask> oh so if i have a processor that SUPPORTS 64 bit do i need to have a 64 bit OS ?
[02:24] <GillaGal> kdask Nope.
[02:24] <kdask> GillaGal: does it help?
[02:24] <JDShewey> A 64 bit processor can run a 32 bit OS, but you are using part of your overall capabilty.
[02:25] <JDShewey> You will get better performance out of a 64 bit OS.
[02:25] <tgr> so was curious is 9.04 more heavy than 8.04? on resources
[02:25] <francesco_> italian???
[02:25] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; can you make it clear
[02:25] <JDShewey> But sometimes you have compatability issues.
[02:25] <eseven73> !it | francesco_
[02:25] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, you asked can my dektop update from campus; I asked is your home on campus or do you from home needto go over the Internet to connect ot it ..
[02:25] <philsf> JDShewey, arguably better performance...
[02:25] <kdask> JDShewey: even if i have less than 4 GB ram?
[02:25] <mutilator> ah i see
[02:25] <mutilator> i dont know why i didnt try to do that before
[02:25] <mutilator> :P
[02:25] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; need to connect through the internet
[02:25] <JDShewey> kdask: yes, even if
[02:26] <GillaGal> JDShewey performance on what?
[02:26] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, is posible; but only if you make it so the Internet can connect to it - then I sugested; if you make it so you can connect over the Internet to it others can also ...
[02:27] <kdask> where's the 64 bit linux version of flash player anyone? ive searched like crazy
[02:27] <simNIX> ... best use at home a normal mirror or have also one apt-mirror download at home ...
[02:27] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; the server will have internet connection and i'll put it on 24 hrs. if necessary...
[02:28] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; should the server be running all the time then??
[02:28] <CFNinja> Is there no way for me to log in the terminal so that I have root without having to type sudo before every single command?
[02:28] <Pelle112> how do I check witch deamons are running?
[02:28] <wgrant_> kdask: Just go to a page that uses Flash, and Firefox will ask you if you want to install it.
[02:28] <philsf> kdask, partner repository
[02:28] <kdask> philsf: what is that?
[02:28] <philsf> !partner | kdask
[02:28] <wgrant_> !rootshell | CFNinja
[02:29] <wgrant_> philsf: That's not the right factoid.
[02:29] <kdask> thanks
[02:29] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, Internet connection to grab new files is no problem; the risk comes if you make it so someone on the Internet can connect to it - that would open up a can of worms, that you dont have if at home you use another server to update / install from
[02:29] <CFNinja> thx
[02:29] <philsf> wgrant_, you're right
[02:29] <philsf> kdask, wait a sec
[02:29] <^Phantom2^> Hey guys, i'm going to rant a little bit here (it's relevant to the chat)
[02:30] <zetheroo> I thought Ubuntu 9.04 would be released by now ..
[02:30] <space_cadet> zetheroo, tomarrow
[02:30] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, if you have a local dns at home you could point your desktop to a name that resolves to ubuntu mirror online, and at work have that name resolve to ip box with apt-mirror
[02:30] <LjL> ^Phantom2^: it's most likely not, use #ubuntu-offtopic for any non-support topic (or for certain specific topics, you might be directed to other channels)
[02:30] <zetheroo> ﻿space_cadet: whose tomorrow?
[02:30] <kdask> yes philsf?
[02:30] <space_cadet> zetheroo, jaunty
[02:30] <jtholmes> zetheroo, i doubt that the RC will change between now and tomorrows official release announcement
[02:31] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; i just wanted all the students of the campus have the ability to update from their homes through the internet..
[02:31] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, why ?
[02:31] <space_cadet> update what?
[02:31] <simNIX> (sine its slower then a mirror close to them)
[02:31] <simNIX> but its posible if a requiremnet
[02:31] <simNIX> vsftpd is quite save
[02:32] <^Phantom2^> omg ubuntu is so awesome!!!  i can't believe how easy it is to use!!  It is so much nicer than window$, and HOLY MACRO it is so good with laptop batteries!  Thank you so much for your support guys!!!
[02:32] <jelly-bean> what is the best app for comparing files in linux? (e.g. gui; developer tool; unified diff; with basic functions to resolve conflicts)
[02:32] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; we have many ubuntu users locally and they complain of taking time for updating packages from the other severs which are not available locally
[02:32] <philsf> kdask, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding Canonical Partner Repositories
[02:33] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; but what i am worried now is network traffic and you also mentioned there will be some problem if anyone else is updating..whats the problem..."you mentioned can of worms"
[02:33] <Frijolie> anyone familiar with claws-mail? I cannot send IMAP emails with claws + GMail
[02:33] <^Phantom2^> oh, and my other nick doesn't need to be here anymore, because it's just idling
[02:34] <zetheroo> ﻿jtholmes: do you know what version of alsa will be in the final?
[02:34] <Pelle112> can I check if ddclient is running?
[02:34] <jtholmes> zetheroo, no I dont
[02:34] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong - then apt-mirror dowlnoad of all files 2x a day maybe would be perfect on campus - just share out what it downloads over http or ftp and point every client to use this ftp/http
[02:35] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; are there any manuals upon this...??
[02:35] <wrice_> Pelle112: 'ps aux | grep ddclient'
[02:35] <LjL> jelly-bean, i've used kompare sometimes, i didn't mind it, but i have no idea whether it has the features you mentioned honestly.
[02:35] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, you still got pastebin I gave you with how to config it ?
[02:35] <simNIX> thats all you need
[02:36] <simNIX> + setup a vsftpd of http server
[02:36] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; yes i do have
[02:36] <Frijolie> it's complaining that a folder is missing "sent"
[02:36] <Frijolie> although it's there
[02:36] <simNIX> loose the lines I have for Debian
[02:36] <simNIX> install apt-mirror
[02:36] <jelly-bean> LjL: compare is good. thnx :)
[02:36] <lighttitan> My external Harddrive won't let me put anything on it. I have no permissions on it. How do I set permissions for having write permissions on my harddrive? There permissions tab was not available.
[02:37] <simNIX> modify in config directory you want it tot download
[02:37] <simNIX> and do apt-mirror
[02:37] <kdask> how do i open  a .so file?
[02:37] <Pelle112> thx  wrice_ :)
[02:37] <simNIX> it wil dowlnoad about 22Gb
[02:37] <zakk> kdask: .so files are like dlls
[02:37] <zakk> kdask: you dlopen them in code
[02:37] <^Phantom^> Now, I want to do more with linux than just chat.  My question now is:  what is the recommended bittorrent client for ubuntu?  I'm looking to use one that is similar to BitTorrent on windoze, but I prefer one that is simple to use, but not so simple a 2-year old can use it.  Any suggestions?
[02:37] <kdask> zakk thats what i got when i searched for the flash plugin
[02:37] <Frijolie> ^Phantom^, I use deluge-torrent
[02:38] <kdask> 64 bit linux
[02:38] <Frijolie> ^Phantom^, or just "deluge"
[02:38] <zakk> ^Phantom^: http://www.transmissionbt.com/
[02:38] <^Phantom^> Frijolie: thank you
[02:38] <simNIX> ^Phantom^, the one that fits :o)
[02:38] <^Phantom^> i'll look into it :D
[02:38] <simNIX> Tribler is maybe worth a look
[02:38] <Kou> anyone know how to fix missing aplication bars in Xubuntu?
[02:38] <simNIX> its founded by eu
[02:38] <simNIX> funded
[02:38] <lighttitan> ^Phantom^, I use Transmission Bittorrent Client
[02:39] <^Phantom^> I plan on -
[02:39] <^Phantom^> oh?
[02:39] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; Tribler??
[02:39] <simNIX> was for ^Phantom^  PerryArmstrong
[02:39] <PerryArmstrong> okk
[02:39] <simNIX> a torrent cleint
[02:39] <lighttitan> Haven't tried the one Frijolie mentioned, you can look into them both and decide which you like better.
[02:39] <Kou> anyone know how to fix missing aplication bars in Xubuntu, someone decided to remove mine :@
[02:39] <Frijolie> nobody knows about GMail and claws-mail?
[02:40] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; i have to install apt-mirror only on the clients??
[02:40] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; i have to install apt-mirror only on the server??
[02:40] <Frijolie> deluge is a great light-weight torrent client
[02:40] <simNIX> no install needed on lcients
[02:40] <simNIX> no install needed on lcients
[02:40] <Frijolie> and they're always updating it
[02:40] <lighttitan> I think I will try it out Frijolie
[02:40] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; okk...
[02:40] <simNIX> only on server that wil serve up the files to the clients
[02:40] <philsf> genii, it appears the ppa version of a package doesn't have an Origin field to compare with, according to apt-cache show
[02:41] <philsf> genii, the package in question is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/156257/
[02:41] <^Phantom^> i have only booted back into windows once since installing ubuntu 8.10, and that was just to make sure it still booted, lol (if that means anything)
[02:41] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; so no need of apt-mirror on server its only for clients??
[02:42] <MaT-dg> Frijolie: what about GMail and claws-mail?
[02:42] <thewrath> does anyone know where i can just get the wubi.exe
[02:42] <thewrath> for jaunty
[02:42] <thewrath> bc the RC for jaunty does not have it
[02:42] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, on campus make it for instance so the ubuntu.campus.com (replace domain) point to ip box runnig vsftpd (shares out what apt-mirror on same box grabs) in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:42] <^Phantom^> oh oh, i should have asked this in the first place:  does utorrent make an ubuntu compatible version?
[02:43] <lighttitan> ^Phantom^ Welcome to Linux, it is a great OS. I have never been unable to get help on an issue if I come here. So just drop in here and the Pros(not me) will help you out!
[02:43] <genii> philsf: You use some lines like:  Package: *       and: Pin: origin www.debian-multimedia.org
[02:43] <^Phantom^> lighttitan: it's not great... it's AWESOME!!!
[02:43] <genii> philsf: But the repo name of ppa
[02:43] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong ... in /etc/apt/sources.list of clients you then set ubuntu.campus.com
[02:43] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong ... in /etc/apt/sources.list of clients you then set tp://ubuntu.campus.com
[02:43] <Kou> anyone know how to fix missing aplication bars in Xubuntu, someone decided to remove mine :@
[02:43] <simNIX> *ftp://ubuntu.campus.com
[02:43] <lighttitan> ^Phantom^ Yes it is!
[02:43] <thahauss> Hi all, I'm new to linux and trying to make my windows transparent, the areas affected when you change 'appearance preferences > themes'.  any help greatly appreciated
[02:45] <Frijolie> MaT-dg: I cannot send email via claws-mail (recently) it's complaining that it cannot be queued
[02:45] <^Phantom^> um
[02:46] <lighttitan> How do I change the permissions on my HDD? I can't put anything on it.
[02:46] <^Phantom^> My media player window just went dim and grey, and I can't do anything in it...no message came up either.  What can I do to get it back?
[02:46] <Kou> nvm, fixed
[02:46] <philsf> genii, it worked, thanks. But I think the documentation is somewhat missing in this detail
[02:46] <Ghostmedic> Odd question... I am the only user, but now guarddog won't work because I am not the supervisor... how do I become the supervisor on my own machine?
[02:46] <arkanabar> lighttitan, you need to google chmod
[02:46] <genii> philsf: Yes, sadly true
[02:47] <doleyb> thahauss: maybe you should search about compiz
[02:47] <lighttitan> arkanabar thanks
[02:47] <^Phantom^> Oops, I forcequitted it...
[02:47] <Burntresistor> i just dual booted my other hard drive and linux programs wont install , i used the installation process to resize the partition and dint size it in advance  could it be that
[02:47]  * Ciros mutters at missing runtime
[02:48] <doleyb> Ghostmedic: sudo
[02:48] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; you have given me lots of info thanks...now i have to check on various things like setting up ftp..etc...
[02:48] <Ghostmedic> Dolevb: Sudo?
[02:48] <Jak_o_Shadows> i got a big problem with booting. grub just doesn't work, whatever distro i use. When i just installed a deriative of ubuntu (opengeu 8.10), my computer wouldn't boot at all. didn't even get to grub
[02:48] <RedMercury> Hi, what time on the 23rd will jaunty be released?
[02:48] <Jak_o_Shadows>  i installed everything to an external usb hdd
[02:50] <perturbed> Create a USB startup disk is absent in my ubuntu 8.10 ..how do i get it , please help .
[02:50] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, gladely helped - vsftpd is an option or maybe lightttpd since ftp is a bit harder to let through risticted firewall - this is only an consideration if clients also need to be able to use same mirror at home over the Internet
[02:50] <perturbed> Create a USB startup disk is absent in my ubuntu 8.10 ..how do i get it , please help ....................
[02:51] <Ghostmedic> what does Sudo mean? I'm new to linux.
[02:51] <Jak_o_Shadows> sudo is run as superuser, or root
[02:51] <nate[oz]> hey guys, what's the best subversion client out there for ubuntu?
[02:51] <perturbed> sudo gives your current user administrative powers
[02:51] <thebackwash> Ghostmedic: sudo gives the command domain over you entire file system, whereas usually, if you run a command, it's restricted to your home folder
[02:51] <kitche> !best | nate[oz]
[02:51] <kitche> nate[oz]: umm subversion of course
[02:51] <perturbed> Create a USB startup disk is absent in my ubuntu 8.10 ..how do i get it , please help ....
[02:51] <etzerd> Hello all
[02:51] <nate[oz]> :/
[02:52] <etzerd> tomorrow will be the big day.
[02:52] <Ghostmedic> How? The program just informs me that I can't do much when I start it up because I'm not the supervisor.. unlike other programs it does not ask for a password or anything.
[02:52] <etzerd> any news about the 9.04?
[02:52] <thebackwash> perturbed: please ask a little less frequently.  if anyone knows they WILL answer.
[02:52] <perturbed> sorryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[02:52] <perturbed> hehe
[02:52] <thebackwash> perturbed: no problem :)
[02:52] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; so setting up this on vsftpd or lightttpd doesn't depend on the speed of internet on the server
[02:52] <perturbed> but its an emergency :(
[02:52] <SeViLLa> etzerd: i dont know what does the website say
[02:53] <hsinam> etzerd: hasnt come yet. today is the announced date though. keep checking releases.ubuntu.com
[02:53] <etzerd> I believe the said tomorrow they will release it to the public
[02:53] <thebackwash> Ghostmedic: not every user can use sudo.  it is intentionally disabled for certain users.  i'm not sure of the easiest way to enable sudo on your current account.
[02:54] <ohohh9> jo
[02:54] <thebackwash> Ghostmedic: this is intended to protect your computer from unwanted hacking attempts.
[02:54] <thebackwash> Ghostmedic: it is possible to add your account to the list of users who can sudo, but the only way I know of is to edit a certain text file
[02:54] <Ghostmedic> Okay... I'll do a websearch for how to enable sudu
[02:55] <RedMercury> anyone? :|
[02:55] <Ghostmedic> Thank you all for your help.
[02:55] <thebackwash> Ghostmedic: if you have to run a command as root temporarily, you may type 'su'
[02:55] <ampzqlox> running 9.04  uninstalled vinagre and vino installed tightvncserver - what can I put into rc.local? I tried su -c tightvncserver. I get a just an blank grid and an X cursor on my screen when I remote into it over the net
[02:55] <wgrant_> thebackwash, Ghostmedic: You want 'sudo', not 'su'.
[02:55] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; there??
[02:55] <Guest64560> hey i'm trying to make a video showing many programs opened up...is there a way to batch execute every program I have?
[02:55] <thebackwash> Ghostmedic: however, due to the power of the root account, it is recommended to use this very sparingly
[02:55] <^Phantom^> Okay, I can't seem to find this at all.  I've looked through all of the settings on X-Chat.  How can I change the color used for highlighting nicks that mention my name in the chat?  The yellow color is too bright for me.
[02:56] <thebackwash> Ghostmedic: you may have to log in as root via su in order to add your current user to the /etc/sudoers file
[02:56] <thebackwash> Ghostmedic: after that it should be sudo all the way
[02:57] <hsinam> Ghostmedic: system > administration > user and groups. select user properties, check administer the sytem option
[02:57] <thebackwash> hsinam: thank you!
[02:57] <thebackwash> hsinam: i couldn't remember how to do that through the gui
[02:57] <zloog> I AM HAM
[02:57] <Ububegin> isnt ubuntu 9, supposed to release today.
[02:57] <Jak_o_Shadows> i got a big problem with booting. grub just doesn't work, whatever distro i use. When i just installed a deriative of ubuntu (opengeu 8.10), my computer wouldn't boot at all. didn't even get to grub. i'm installing it all onto an external usb hdd
[02:58] <thebackwash> Guest64612: Do you want a couple of seconds in between each launch to show them off, or do you want to launch them all at once?
[02:58] <hsinam> thebackwash: i didnt know either, but ubuntu pocket guide pdf has given many gui methods for simple things
[02:58] <n8tuser> Jak_o_Shadows -> perhaps your mobo does not support boooting off of usb
[02:58] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, am now ...
[02:58] <MaT-dg> Ububegin: yes, today is still yesterday in other timezones and today is 24hours long ;)
[02:58] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; so setting up this on vsftpd or lightttpd doesn't depend on the speed of internet on the server
[02:58] <kitche> Ububegin: umm it's not even the 23rd yet for when Ubuntu is suppose to be released
[02:59] <thedust> hello, i am attempting to dual boot ubuntu with vista currently installed, i was wondering how i could change my bios settings so that the computer boots from the cd
[02:59] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, for clients on campus only the speed to the vsftpd oor lighttpd counts
[02:59] <Jak_o_Shadows> did u get that message?
[02:59] <thedust> does anyone here know how to change the bios settings?
[02:59] <simNIX> apt-mirror can be ran to update the files when everybody is home / Inet usage is at lightest
[02:59] <OsamaK> Hello. I'm going to format my Ubuntu partition today to install Ubuntu 9.04 (I just want a new starting). What's the best: to use EXT3 or EXT4?
[02:59] <Ububegin> MaT-dg: Ah... I forgot the americans are still stuck on the 22nd..... :) ... so any ideas how many more hours to go
[03:00] <n8tuser> Jak_o_Shadows -> you have an existing linux installed or this is the first one?
[03:00] <studentz> thedust: did you try wibi install directly form windows
[03:00] <hsinam> Ububegin: 2 more hours
[03:00] <cfowler> It is 10pm on Eastern Coast of US
[03:00] <PhotoJim> the Canadians are still suck on the 22nd too (and prefer not to be called Americans)
[03:00] <Jak_o_Shadows> first one really. it doesn't let me boot when i install. so effectively i don't have linux installed
[03:00] <thebackwash> Guest64612: You may make a text file containing the full path to all the executables (e.g. /usr/bin/firefox), with a space and a single & after each one.  separate each program by a return.  add 'sleep 5' for 5 seconds' pause after launching each one.
[03:00] <PhotoJim> 11:30 east coast Canada, 7:00 west coast
[03:00] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; but i have to consider both...clients connected to the server and machines on the internet (home)
[03:00] <thedust> no i will try that thank you,
[03:01] <Ububegin> hsinam: Ok dokie... Its almost brunch time on the 23rd here (Singapore) ....
[03:01] <lighttitan> I can't figure out this chmod shit. Anyone want to direct me to a tutorial I can understand? I found one on google, but I can't understand it.
[03:01] <studentz> the dust: usually when you restart your computer you should press del and you enter to the BIOS
[03:01] <thebackwash> Guest64612: sorry maybe i can post a sample way to do this on pastebin.  it's hard to explain, but easy to understand once you see it.
[03:01] <Jak_o_Shadows> or F2 or something
[03:01] <Jak_o_Shadows> shoudl com eup on screen
[03:02] <^Phantom^> LOL
[03:02] <Ububegin> lighttitan: http://www.ss64.com/bash/chmod.html
[03:02] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, then a script at clients that checks somehow if its at campus or at home and set at home to use normal online mirror instead of the campus one will save the campus a load of outbound bandwidth
[03:02] <lighttitan> Ubunbegin, thank you
[03:02] <^Phantom^> I unmounted my internal hard drive and a message at the bottom of the screen came up saying "this device is now safe to remove"
[03:02] <lighttitan> Ububegin, thanks
[03:02] <andrewkk> X11 is quitting immediately after it starts, but the Xorg log reports no errors. Where should I look to try to solve this?
[03:02] <Ububegin> lighttitan: One thanks is sufficient dude..... :D
[03:03] <kitche> andrewkk: most likely not an Xorg issue mroe of a gdm/gnome issue
[03:03] <picaboo> hi guys!  :)
[03:03] <andrewkk> kitche: thanks, I'll check around there.
[03:03] <h8red> hey.  are there any pdf editors for linux other than pdf edit?  for whatever reason, the menu uptions in pdfedit are not visible
[03:03] <lighttitan> Ububegin, I mispelled your name the first time, so I said it again in case you missed it. Didn't want to appear ungrateful.
[03:04] <h8red> probably due to an nvidia issue
[03:04] <tgr> has anyone here successfully gotten a refund for microsoft vista?
[03:04] <Pici> !ot
[03:04] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; yes but maybe if i limit it to only our campus students to update from their homes and not anyone else...it might help...but the question is how to do this??
[03:04] <studentz> ^Phanton: there is a process running, System --> Admin -->System Monitor you will find which process it is
[03:04] <Ububegin> tgr: proceed to #windows
[03:04] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; or maybe i have to request the department head to increase the speed
[03:05] <thebackwash> Guest64612: if you're still here, visit here: pastebin.com/m16d1a98e
[03:05] <tgr> Ububegin: who in #windows would request a refund for vista?
[03:05] <tgr> just curious
[03:05] <rocky_> hello
[03:05] <tgr> they are windows users
[03:05] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, I gotta doze off - shutting down for the night ... a bash script at boot could copy a diferent apt.sources depending on where it -is - for how that I dont have recepy ready for ..
[03:05] <lighttitan> Ububegin, WOot, it worked! I now have access to my harddrives :)
[03:05] <LjL> !ot | tgr
[03:06] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; thanks lots of help i got from you
[03:06] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, with this puzzled out clients not use presious bandwidt ANd the cleints get best speed
[03:06] <Guest12594> anyone here able to help me with a printing setup problem??
[03:06] <^Phantom^> okay
[03:06] <Ububegin> lighttitan: get that site bookmarked... it can help you with all types of linux commands..
[03:06] <simNIX> I hope the puzzle peices make a stable beasty :o)
[03:07] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; i didnt get what you said..can you make it clear
[03:07] <h8red> I guess no other pdf editors for linux?  :(
[03:07] <stealth-> is there any way to get back a file i deleted from the command line (opps!)?
[03:07] <h8red> damn
[03:07] <PerryArmstrong> tgr; refund??
[03:07] <Caskey100> For some reason Ubuntu won't print on my local Lexmark printer even though it is installed
[03:07] <thebackwash> stealth-: try rm -W
[03:07] <Ububegin> So does Ubuntu 9 solve the wireless/wired connectivity issue...
[03:07] <thebackwash> stealth-: it says it will *try* to recover the file
[03:07] <Caskey100> keeps saying it may be dissconected
[03:08] <studentz> tgr: I know there was a case in the court in Europe and they gain so they refund something like $80
[03:08] <thebackwash> stealth-: if you can't get it back, take your computer to somewhere that offers data recovery services
[03:08] <^Phantom^> here's a problem i'm having with wine:  whenever i connect to a server with mirc (6.21) the program appears to close itself out.  What might be causing this and what can I do to get around it?
[03:08] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, IF you figure out howto get clients at boot to have a different apt.sources depending if at campus or not will make clients not use presious bandwidt of campus when at home ANd that wil make that  clients get best speed
[03:08] <stealth-> thebackwash: there is no -W arguement in the rm command, according to bash and man
[03:09] <ke_> hello, I am new to linux, what is the best way to add a directory to the $PATH variable ? wish to add ~/bin
[03:09] <thebackwash> stealth-: oh, ok.  i'm not on linux right now.  sorry then.
[03:09] <Stanlin> help
[03:09] <Stanlin> Hibernation crash my computer, HELP!!!
[03:09] <stealth-> thebackwash: its all good, thanks for trying
[03:09] <stealth-> any one else know a way to get data back after its been deleted via the CLI?
[03:10] <Ububegin> !ubuntu9.05
[03:10] <Ububegin> !ubuntu 9.05
[03:10] <simNIX> stealth-, backups are best fix - else very dificult
[03:10] <simNIX> gotta go - latersssssssssss
[03:10] <KingKimi> !jaunty > ububegin
[03:10] <francis> Stanlin: www.apple.com/getamac
[03:10] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; the clients at home are the people who are going to work on Ubuntu development... so its not all of the students..its only those who are on the craze for Ubuntu who are a handful
[03:10] <stealth-> simNIX: it was from my backups :(
[03:10] <thebackwash> ke_: open up (or create) /home/username/.bashrc, and type export PATH='$PATH:/home/username/bin'
[03:10] <Webu> !jaunty > Webu
[03:11] <^Phantom^> it's really annoying, because it always worked in my virtual ubuntu maching
[03:11] <^Phantom^> machine*
[03:11] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; but then i want to moderate who can update??
[03:11] <thebackwash> ke_: save and exit
[03:11] <Matr|X> i installed server lamp but i want to unstall evry thing agine
[03:11] <b14ck> hey, i installed amarok on ubuntu 9.04, but it wont play like 90% of my music, worked fine on gentoo
[03:11] <b14ck> it seems like it doesnt want to play my mp3 v0 files
[03:11] <Pici> !jaunty > b14ck
[03:11] <b14ck> any idea why?
[03:12] <stealth-> Webu: for future reference, you can message ubottu via the "/msg ubottu !factiod" rather than writing in the channel
[03:12] <Stanlin> francis: but im heterosexual i cant use that
[03:12] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, if only a few use it from home dont open it up to the Internet - let them at home use a normal mirror -> much saver
[03:12] <francis> Stanlin: u funnies
[03:12] <eseven73> is the apache2 config httpd.conf, sites-available, or sites-enabled?
[03:12] <francis> actually no u not funnies
[03:12] <simNIX> and faser for them
[03:12] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; okk
[03:12] <Webu> stealth-, oh yes - thank you for poiniting me out.
[03:13]  * coskund is away (Gule Gule (Cevrim Disi) | Bye Bye (Offline))
[03:13] <stealth-> Webu: np, lol, I was just messaging it and noticed you did it to :P
[03:13] <simNIX> night
[03:13] <simNIX> mornig already even - )
[03:13] <eseven73> !away > CoskunD
[03:13] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; something interesting http://popey.com/Creating_an_Ubuntu_repository_mirror_with_apt-mirror
[03:13] <Stanlin> francis: well my laptop has quad core, 8gb ram, 1080p. Mac only delivers underdeveloped crap overhyped
[03:13] <jimmy51_home> hello, i have an hp scanjet 3970.  i run kubuntu 8.10 with GDM apps.  i can't seem the scanning apps to detect my scanner, even though it shows up in "lsusb".  what do i need to do?
[03:13] <studentz> ^Phantom^ I haven't use mirc, but there are others alternatives open source, sorry I cannot help you :(
[03:13] <OsamaK> called some one answer my ext3/ext4 question above?
[03:13] <KingKimi> i isntalled ubuntu by manual method.... and i RESIZED C to create ext and a swap and remaining of C ///// but my windows cant boot :( help me :( :(
[03:13] <francis> Stanlin: tell u what, when your computer stops crashing on hibernate
[03:13] <OsamaK> * could :)
[03:13] <francis> come back and talk to me  :P
[03:13] <Matr|X> i installed lamp server but i want to unstall evry thing agine wht command to unstall evry thing
[03:13] <Caskey100> can anyone help me with the installation of a local printer???
[03:14] <francis> until then, just bury ur head in shame brother :P
[03:14] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, that looks good
[03:14] <Stanlin> any advice on Hibernation??
[03:14] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; ya
[03:14] <^Phantom^> Actually, is there any way xchat can support mirc scripts?
[03:14] <Matr|X> can anyone help me with unstalling lamp-server
[03:14] <tgr> PerryArmstrong: http://equiliberate.org/?q=node/3
[03:14] <simNIX> realy gotta go - 415 am - and gotta go job hunting tomorow
[03:14] <hal14450> woah what happened w/ the chan switch there?
[03:15] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; can the server on hardy provide updations for jaunty clients??
[03:15] <Matr|X> hello
[03:15] <studentz> Casey100  System --> Administration ---> Printing  click new and follow the instructions
[03:15] <Matr|X> !help lamp-server
[03:15] <Madpilot> ubottu, lamp | Matr|X
[03:15] <Caskey100> studentz: I have tried that and it still won't physically print
[03:16] <studentz> whivh printer do you have
[03:16] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, yes - apt-mirror can grab any release - in this case testing if im not mistaken
[03:16] <Caskey100> studentz: Lexmark X2690
[03:16] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; testing what??
[03:16] <studentz> Casey100 give me a minute
[03:17] <simNIX> Jaunty = testing right ?
[03:17] <Caskey100> studentz: ok
[03:17] <Matr|X> i installed it yestrday but today give me some error caz one file is missing or somthing
[03:17] <andrewkk> kitche: fyi, apparently xinerama was to blame. I'm not sure why there weren't any error messages.
[03:18] <Madpilot> Matr|X, asking questions in-channel is a far better way to get help than random PMing
[03:18] <Madpilot> Matr|X, also, pls be more specific than "some error"
[03:19] <Matr|X> sorry
[03:19] <Matr|X> i have problem now
[03:19] <vincentpsp2> what time has come ubuntu 9.04
[03:19] <Madpilot> have you run the error you get thru a google search?
[03:19] <brianski> am i the only one having issues with firefox hanging (while displaying 'finished checking Xulrunner) after the latest upgrade?
[03:19] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, I may be mixing it up with Debian - there not out version = called testing if you grab it with apt-mirror
[03:19] <Matr|X> ok
[03:19] <Matr|X> now im newbe
[03:19] <mkasson> I just set up my kids computer to dual boot Ubuntu and Win
[03:19] <mkasson> how do I get grub to boot ubuntu by default?
[03:19] <cirE1> how do i run the update manager for new 9.04?
[03:20] <hal14450> mkasson, change the order in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:20] <Matr|X> i installed this struff apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server   then i unstall it .. now i want to install evry thing agine but its wont install
[03:20] <mkasson> hal14450, do I have to boot from livecd to do that?
[03:20] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; okk...anyways i am on intrepid now...in 30 minutes i'll be on a jaunty after restarting my machine
[03:20] <newcomer> mkasson, no
[03:20] <mkasson> cool, thanks
[03:20] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, night m8
[03:20] <Caskey100> Studentz: you still there??
[03:20] <simNIX> nice meeting ya
[03:20] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; good nite...sleep well
[03:21] <simNIX> ty
[03:21] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; ya nice metting you too
[03:21] <cirE1> whats the command to update to new distro?
[03:21] <hal14450> mkasson, no but you'll have to edit the file using a sudo command like gksudo gedit or sudo nano /path/to/menu.lst
[03:21] <KingKimi>  fdisk -l
[03:21] <KingKimi> Cannot open /dev/sda
[03:21] <KingKimi>   how do i open /dev/sda ?????
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> cirE1: Check the release notes.
[03:21] <mkasson> hal14450, no probs with that
[03:21] <grendal_prime> is it possible to natively play mac stuff yet?
[03:21] <brianski> KingKimi: throw a sudo in there
[03:21] <brianski> sudo fdisk -l
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> cirE1: 9.04 is not out yet.
[03:22] <grendal_prime> sounds like a stupid question i know..im just curriouse is all
[03:22] <studentz> Caskey100 Yes, just searching the database in the linux fundation
[03:22] <cirE1> isn't the RC out?
[03:22] <brianski> grendal_prime: what do you mean exactly?
[03:22] <hal14450> mkasson, just backup the file before hand so you don't doa  footbullet
[03:22] <KingKimi> brianski, thnx !
[03:22] <cirE1> but yea it should be released in the next hour and a half
[03:22] <_chun> Can anyone help: I installed the latest Realtek drivers for my soundcard, but now the microphone jack refuses to work. How/where can I re-install the default sound drivers in ubuntu? (I'm fairly new to linux as a whole)
[03:22] <Caskey100> studentz: okay thank you I am also doing the same
[03:22] <newcomer> mkasson, just change the line "default 0" to "default 1" or whatever ubuntu is
[03:22] <brianski> cirE1: the "RC" is out, but it is a candidate that failed to get elected - 9.04 release will not be the same as RC1
[03:22] <Matr|X> root@xob:/# apt-get remove apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-common libapache2-mod-php5 libapr1 libaprutil1 libdbd-mysql-perl libdbi-perl libmysqlclient15off libnet-daemon-perl libplrpc-perl libpq5 mysql-client-5.0 mysql-common mysql-server mysql-server-5.0 php5-common php5-mysql
[03:22] <Matr|X> Reading package lists... Done
[03:22] <Matr|X> Building dependency tree
[03:22] <Matr|X> Reading state information... Done
[03:22] <Matr|X> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[03:22] <FloodBot2> Matr|X: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:22] <Matr|X>   apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-common libapache2-mod-php5 libapr1 libaprutil1 libdbd-mysql-perl libdbi-perl
[03:23] <cirE1> oh thanks for the heads up!
[03:23] <Stanlin> Help me or I will ask for a refund!!!
[03:23] <thebackwash> Stanlin: give me your paypal info.  i'll send you a refund ;)
[03:24] <mkasson> newcomer, ah even better
[03:24] <jats> Hey, would someone mind helping me with mkisofs? It's not really the topic but I couldn't find anyone at #dvdstyler, and I'm pretty sure mkisofs doesn't have its own channel.
[03:25] <grendal_prime> i just see alot of opensource like educational games for mac...it has been my assumption i would need a mac emulator to run them
[03:25] <studentz> Casey100: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-X2690
[03:26] <Guest64560> hey is there a command to display all the programs that I may run from the terminal? for example if I have firefox, I can type in "firefox" in the terminal to run it, but some programs are spelled differently when run from terminal
[03:26] <grendal_prime> brianski: just wondered if some of them are...runnable without an emulator or vm type enviroment
[03:26] <soldats> anyone notice the package build-essential isnt authenticated.
[03:27] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/
[03:27] <Stanlin> thebackwash: stanling@commie.com
[03:27] <Caskey100> studentz: how do  use this information provided I'm new to linux
[03:27] <jats> Guest6...:I
[03:27] <dft> is oOo 3 pkgd for 8.10?
[03:27] <studentz> Casey100 It has two penguins Mostly works on Linux
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> dft: yes.
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> dft: You can get it from the PPA.
[03:28] <studentz> Casey100 click on CUPS in the gray box
[03:28] <Guest64560> jats: ..what?
[03:28] <jats> ﻿Guest6...:I'm not sure you'd want a complete list, I would think on a system with many packages there would be quite alot. One thing you could try is type the first few characters, then hit <TAB>
[03:28] <Fiuza> hi there
[03:28] <josh977> I'm upgrading my laptop from ibex to jaunty. --I'm scared.
[03:28] <dft> tonyyarusso: ty
[03:28] <Fiuza> i need help
[03:28] <Caskey100> STudentz so that can mean it prolly just doesn't work w/ this distro of Linux
[03:29] <Guest64560> o ok
[03:29] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/
[03:29] <jats> Sorry Guest, hit enter too soon the first time.
[03:29] <marduke> hellas
[03:29] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/
[03:29] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/
[03:29] <Matr|X> plz help me3
[03:29] <Guest64560> not working...I type in a few characters, press tab--> nothign happends
[03:29] <jats> Guest:There probably is a way. I don't know of one, maybe someone else does?
[03:29] <Caskey100> Studentz its weird Ubuntu picked it up right away but just won't print a document
[03:30] <studentz> Caskey100: No, CUPS works for all linux distros
[03:30] <jats> Guest: sorry, I should have said hit it twice.
[03:30] <Guest64560> o I see
[03:30] <studentz> Caskey give some time to help you I'm reading spec of your printer
[03:31] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/
[03:31] <h8red> can someone tell me why on certain programs I can't view the text inside the file menus?  i think this has something to do with the fact that i have an nvidia card.
[03:31] <Caskey100> studentz: okay thanks
[03:31] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/
[03:31] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/
[03:31] <Matr|X> help me plz
[03:32] <Matr|X> my intrnset is dirty:S
[03:32] <JECHO> h8red: are you using a dark theme?
[03:32] <jats> Hitting it once works when there is only one possibility. If I type 'base6' on my system the only possibility is a program called base64, so 1 tab brings that up. Tabbing works also for paths (probably more useful).
[03:32] <Yud_Zroc> who would like to try to fully convert me
[03:32] <jdu> Yud_Zroc: to ubuntu?
[03:32] <Fiuza> what's trouble Matr|x?
[03:32] <h8red> Jecho no
[03:32] <Fiuza> what's trouble Matr|X?
[03:33] <Yud_Zroc> jdu: away from windows to linux in general
[03:33] <Pici> !ot
[03:33] <Fiuza> faitz: hello
[03:33]  * jdu goes to offtopic
[03:33]  * Yud_Zroc does the same
[03:33] <h8red> I had to disable antialiasing or something in OpenOffice's settings to get it to work.  I'm assuming those same problems are preventing me from seeing the menu text in Scribus and PDFEdit.  Is there a universal way to disable antialiasing of text so I don't have to jack with it for every single app this happens to?
[03:34] <Stanlin> OK I GIVE UP
[03:34] <Fiuza> h8red
[03:34] <Matr|X> i sent the link
[03:34] <Matr|X> i had install lamp-server
[03:34] <Matr|X> then i unstall it
[03:34] <Matr|X> now i want to install it agine
[03:34] <FloodBot2> Matr|X: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:34] <Matr|X> !ping $me
[03:35] <h8red> yes  Fiuza?
[03:35] <studentz> Caskey100 here is the driver http://downloads.lexmark.com/perl/downloads/downloads.cgi
[03:35] <JECHO> Floodbot2 are yo ua person?
[03:35] <studentz> Caskey100: choose the first one
[03:36] <Pici> JECHO: Its a bot.
[03:36] <Caskey100> Studentz: okay
[03:36] <JECHO> Pici: thats what i thought but after reading some of its messages i wasnt sure
[03:36] <eseven73> you'd think the name 'bot' in FloodBot* would tell you it's a bot :)
[03:37] <joetheodd> Hey guys.. I want to use airsnort-ng to detect wifi passwords, but I'm not sure how to get raw wireless captures.
[03:37] <JECHO> joetheodd is your wireless card capable?
[03:37] <TheFunkbomb> joetheodd, is your wireless card in monitor mode?
[03:37] <JECHO> joetheodd only some cards are supported
[03:37] <TheFunkbomb> rt73 FTW!
[03:37] <joetheodd> I think my card's capable. How can I test?
[03:38] <TheFunkbomb> go into a terminal and put in iwconfig
[03:38] <TheFunkbomb> see if it's monitor mode
[03:39] <joetheodd> TheFunkbomb, doesn't say it is. Do I have to enable monitor mode?
[03:39] <TheFunkbomb> yes
[03:39] <joetheodd> How do I go about doing that?
[03:39] <TheFunkbomb> what card is it?
[03:39] <vanja989> im new here..i wanna make two difrent acounts for me and my mom
[03:39] <vanja989> How???
[03:40] <vanja989> But i want to limit her acssesing to my files
[03:40] <TheFunkbomb> joetheodd, what card is it?
[03:40] <joetheodd> TheFunkbomb, an integrated intel card
[03:40] <vanja989> i mean i dont wanna nothing to see
[03:40] <TheFunkbomb> I don't think that's supported
[03:40] <TheFunkbomb> I'm not sure though
[03:40] <joetheodd> TheFunkbomb, I've got a Realtek USB one
[03:40] <joetheodd> (also)
[03:40] <vanja989> what???
[03:40] <vanja989> :(
[03:40] <joetheodd> vanja989, type adduser <name> in a console
[03:41] <TheFunkbomb> joetheodd, I'll tell you how to do it but I take no responsibility
[03:41] <jats> vanja989:readup on file permissions
[03:41] <joetheodd> TheFunkbomb, fair enough.
[03:41] <joetheodd> TheFunkbomb, I'm used to breaking my system. I'm on jaunty anyhow :)
[03:41] <jeff__> vanja989: creating accounts is done under the system tab. to change file permissions, right click on a folder and look under properties. just remember to apply your permissions RECURSIVELY.
[03:41] <KingKimi> i use APTON CD to create an iso.... when i restore iso .... NOTHING got installed.... help me with this .........
[03:41] <TheFunkbomb> joetheodd, go into terminal and type "sudo ifconfig (card name) down".  Then type "sudo iwconfig (cardname) mode monitor"
[03:42] <TheFunkbomb> then finally "sudo ifconfig (card name) up"
[03:42] <TheFunkbomb> then type in iwconfig and see if it's in monitor mode
[03:42] <jats> vanja: Also try TrueCrypt, it password protects files. I think in 9.04 there is an encrypted directory that is automatically de-encrypted with your logon password.
[03:44] <KingKimi> how do i add to grub ?? it says "You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again."
[03:44] <KingKimi> help me to get permission
[03:44] <ernakk3> hi i need some help. i had xp pro installed, then put on xubuntu install with no problems.  now i had to reinstall xp so i put on xp home, and now i cant load into my xubuntu system at all, how do i fix this?
[03:44] <ernakk3> right now i'm using the xubuntu live cd, as the xp home didnt even detect my other harddrive which had drivers on it
[03:44] <ernakk3> so i have access to my drive which is partitioned for both xubuntu and xp home
[03:44] <joao> hi
[03:44] <karsten> ernakk3: reinstall grub
[03:45] <ernakk3> actually neither my drives show up in file manager
[03:45] <ernakk3> under media
[03:45] <ernakk3> nothing shows up
[03:45] <ernakk3> so still reinstall grub/
[03:45] <karsten> ernakk3: Sorry, I can't stick around, but that's your solution, either Google or ask channel.
[03:45] <spenser> Hi, can anyone tell me at what time the release can be expected?  I'm helping with an install fest, and I need to get the images ASAP.
[03:45] <ernakk3> k thanks
[03:45] <karsten> ernakk3: got shell skillz?
[03:45] <ernakk3> nope
[03:45] <ernakk3> total new to this
[03:45] <KingKimi> HOW DO I ADD lines to grub ?? it says DONT HAEV permision..... how do i get permission ???
[03:45] <studentz> KingKimi: to have access to grub you have to use 'sudo'
[03:45] <karsten> ernakk3: Well, I can't teach you now.  But /proc/partitions would show any recognized devices.
[03:45] <jeff__> KingKimi: use "gksudo" if you're using a graphical editor.
[03:46] <karsten> ernakk3: gotta split.  Laterz
[03:46] <ernakk3> karstem: ok cool, yeah i know some stuff
[03:46] <hal14450> KingKimi, sudo
[03:46] <ernakk3> bye
[03:46] <S02B9Z7V40KUVJQQ> "No, no, do the goldfish!" cried the hairy office secretary as the corpulent ex-celibate penetrated her pink-tipped globes and reamed his rapidly dwindling John Thomas into her soft-spoken honeypot.
[03:46] <hal14450> gksudo for a gui
[03:46] <KingKimi> jeff, gksudo /boot/grub.list ?
[03:46] <lolololo> ernakk3: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[03:46] <vanja989> i expecting for u to help me tmrw..Now is 4 46 here n  i got 2 go
[03:46] <Mike94287> What time is Jaunty coming out?
[03:46] <KingKimi> jeff, i need a command to edit menu.lst
[03:46] <Pici> !isitout | Mike94287
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> Mike94287: #ubuntu-release-party for all such questions.  #ubuntu is for support only.
[03:46] <ernakk3> yeah that file shows exactly what my drives are
[03:47] <ernakk3> so it's there
[03:47] <ernakk3> have to mount it
[03:47] <ernakk3> anyone know how
[03:47] <FloodBot2> ernakk3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:47] <jeff__> KingKimi: no, use gksudo gedit (insert grub directory here)
[03:47] <studentz> KingKimi in a terminal type 'sudo + ther resty of the command '
[03:48] <wy> Hello, anybody know how to download pages in a wiki site recursively?
[03:48] <KingKimi> jeff_ thanks
[03:48] <lolololo> wy google for wget
[03:48] <wy> lolololo: I'm using it, but it stops at the first page with -r and some other options
[03:49] <eseven73> wy try DownThemAll maybe or Flashgot
[03:49] <jeff__> KingKimi: no problem :) ... if you're feeling hardcore, then read about the terminal on help.ubuntu.com or another such tutorial.
[03:49] <lolololo> lemme check the switches
[03:49] <ErgyJB> hello
[03:49] <wy> so I guess maybe the site is a little different.
[03:49] <jedi06> why isn't my cdrom mounting so i can see the files
[03:50] <etzerd> hello
[03:50] <commodore256> hey
[03:50] <etzerd> what's new today?
[03:50] <KingKimi> jeff__, thanks for the tip !
[03:50] <commodore256> I don't know
[03:50] <jedi06> when i click on the cdrom it just doesn't do anything
[03:51] <jedi06> does it log what is going on somewhere
[03:51] <lolololo> wy maybe the site is blocking your user agent
[03:51] <commodore256> type eject in your terminal
[03:51] <lolololo> try passing -U Mozilla
[03:52] <evilhack02> hello
[03:52] <wy> lolololo: I tried. It doesn't work. It's just a trivial site. There shouldn't be any blocks I guess
[03:52] <lolololo> wy what url?
[03:53] <evilhack02> a day for ubuntu 9.04
[03:54] <studentz> evilhack02: here 10:54 (11 hrs)
[03:55] <ZeroLux> slated for a noon release?
[03:55] <evilhack02> should compile 2.6.30
[03:56] <evilhack02>   the ubuntu 9.04
[03:56] <slew> hello, im thinking about using ubuntu, but i have a an hp laptop. the wireless is turned on or off by a button on a panel, not a switch or anything. will ubuntu work with my laptop?
[03:56] <JackWat|Lap> slew: button on a panel?
[03:56] <eseven73> wy try wget --recursive --page-requisites --convert-links www.webaddressgoeshere.com   This will DOWNLOAD Everything on a site lol so you've been warned
[03:56] <evilhack02> should compile 2.6.30 delete bugs
[03:57] <Level15> hello. something weird is happening on my gnome. WHen I open a new window, the mouse pointer moves to its center. I thought it was some accessibility feature I had accidentally turned oon but can't find an option related on gnome settings. any hints?
[03:57] <jdu> slew, likely, yes.  You should probably google your laptop to see other people's experiences but normally things like that work.
[03:57] <KingKimi> what is "update-gnome"
[03:57] <KingKimi> how do i install it ?
[03:57] <jdu> Level15: mouse warping?
[03:57] <Crash1hd> does clamTK see / detect viruses in .exe files?
[03:57] <etzerd> ?
[03:57] <KingKimi> Crash1hd, YES !
[03:58] <jdu> Level15: you might find the setting for it in:  gconf-editor
[03:58] <slew> jdu thanks
[03:58] <KingKimi> Crash1hd, do a recursive scan of your windows drives and it will get good number of Exe.s :P
[03:58] <evilhack02> the solution is in gnome ubuntu 9.04 eliminates these bugs
[03:58] <studentz> should compile 2.6.30-rc3
[03:58] <evilhack02> yes
[03:58] <Crash1hd> KingKimi: ok :) thanks just was wondering cause I put a drive in and is testing it now that avg had found but clamTK isnt seeing yet
[03:58] <etzerd> I have a Verizon UM150 Mobile Broadband USB Modem that I want to set up, can anyone here help me with it?
[03:58] <Crash1hd> its still scanning though
[03:58] <Level15> jdu: ok, let me check that
[03:58] <jdu> no problem, I hope it works for you.
[03:59] <Level15> jdu: why on earth would it auto activate itself?
[03:59] <KingKimi> Crash1hd, updated clam ?
[03:59] <studentz> plus fix ubuntu bug # 1
[03:59] <Crash1hd> it says its uptodate
[03:59] <jdu> Level15: probably, it was some how accidentally turned on.  I don't think mouse warming is ever a default.
[03:59] <jdu> *warping
[03:59] <KingKimi> Crash1hd, there is also avast version for ubuntu
[04:00] <evilhack02> I think that bill  gates is gay
[04:00] <Crash1hd> Cool :)
[04:01] <KingKimi> evilhack02, ;-)
[04:01] <eseven73> !ot | evilhack02
[04:01] <blouf> hi
[04:01]  * misplacedme waves and whatnot
[04:01] <KingKimi> blouf, hi..!!
[04:01] <blouf> anyone know for when is jaunty planned ?
[04:01] <eseven73> !isitout
[04:02] <evilhack02> sorry
[04:03] <blouf> ok thanks anyway
[04:03] <tgr> anyone here use verizon usb wifi on ubuntu?
[04:03] <perlooooooooo> hello guys
[04:03] <schambers> i am using ubuntu in a vmware instance and flash seems to be using an awful lot of cpu
[04:03] <perlooooooooo> is there any way to read .wvm in ubuntu
[04:03] <blouf> last one, is there anyway to upgrade directly to jaunty or i'll have to make a fresh install ?
[04:03] <space_cadet> tgr i know someone that used the sprint card in ubuntu using wine and the windows setup wizard
[04:03] <schambers> i installed flashblock, but it's still running sluggish
[04:03] <space_cadet> schambers, goto about:config
[04:04] <space_cadet> schambers, type ipv6
[04:04] <dani> hello
[04:04] <tgr> space_cadet: thanks for the input
[04:04] <jdu> blouf: the update manager will allow you to update to jaunty provided you have intrepid
[04:04] <studentz> perlooooooooooooooooo : YES
[04:04] <perlooooooooo> how
[04:04] <perlooooooooo> ??
[04:04] <space_cadet> schambers,    make the "disable ipv6 dns"    =    true
[04:05] <blouf> jdu, great, i guess it will be like every update right ?
[04:05] <Guest46929> I have a question, in SOFTWARE SOURCES, what should be checked in Third Party Software page???????
 I have a question, in SOFTWARE SOURCES, what should be checked in Third Party Software page???????
[04:05] <space_cadet> depends on what you want
[04:05] <jdu> blouf: yes except it will have a slightly different dialog and it will take much longer...
[04:05] <schambers> how do i save once i am done?
[04:05] <blouf> jdu, i guess so
[04:06] <space_cadet> schambers, restart firefox
[04:06] <jdu> blouf: depends on your internet connection of course.
[04:06] <outbackwifi> !hi
[04:06] <space_cadet> schambers, once you change it, a restart applies
[04:06] <evilhack02> ubuntu is a report of certain errors
[04:06] <evilhack02> beware of the virtual box looking for a patch I still do not find what I seek
[04:06] <studentz> perloooooooooo: install medibuntu sources, w32codecs, mplayer
[04:06] <perlooooooooo> that what i did
[04:06] <blouf> jdu, but what i really want to know is ... about ext4, it'll not make my current system a mess ?
[04:06] <space_cadet> schambers, just so you know, that will only speed up the initial "searching for blahblah.com"
[04:06] <perlooooooooo> but doesnt work for all the files
[04:06] <evilhack02> is cool  men  perloooooooo
[04:07] <space_cadet> schambers, if you are experiencing slowness still, look into the RIGHT WAY to use pipelining
[04:07] <Guest46929> I have a question, in SOFTWARE SOURCES, what should be checked in Third Party Software page?? because right now nothing is checked at all
[04:07] <jdu> blouf: from what I read, it might cause certain problems, but I don't think they are serious, per se.
[04:07] <space_cadet> schambers, or ..... upgrade your internet service....
[04:07] <schambers> pipelining?
[04:07] <schambers> well this is ubuntu running in a vm
[04:07] <schambers> with vmware
[04:07] <space_cadet> schambers, sending multiple requests at a time
[04:07] <studentz> perloooo; are you in 32 or 64
[04:07] <outbackwifi> Guest46929: that would depend on what 3rd party software you want to install
[04:07] <space_cadet> schambers, lol...
[04:08] <schambers> firefox is just being a system hog it seems
[04:08] <perlooooooooo> ZA
[04:08] <perlooooooooo> 21
[04:08] <perlooooooooo> 32
[04:08] <blouf> jdu, oh :( problems like ?
[04:08] <outbackwifi> !enter | perlooooooooo
[04:08] <fearthenofear> I installed openoffice.org of which I cd into the directory and then sudo dpkg -i *.deb and it installed but it didn't show up anywhere....
[04:08] <space_cadet> schambers,  get virtualbox
[04:08] <scunizi> evilhack02: what issue are you having with vbox?
[04:08] <Spock2f> hello world :)
[04:08] <Guest46929> which ones would you recommend me outbackwifi? im a noob
[04:08] <space_cadet> schambers, that is true... it is a system hog.
[04:09] <schambers> any good alternatives on ubuntu for browsers?
[04:09] <jdu> blouf: delayed rights resulting in program instability in certain scenarios.  Some people reported kernel freezes on deletes in jaunty.
[04:09] <pc> jdu, blouf: I can't imagine one will be forced to ext4, will one?
[04:09] <schambers> they dont have a chrome linux version yet do they?
[04:09] <evilhack02> must be broken in the Open Office package
[04:09] <jdu> rights = writes
[04:09] <r33tfux0r> Good evening.  Is there a way to perform the special Ubuntu Server LAMP metapackage on ubuntu desktop or do you just install the components separately
[04:09] <outbackwifi> Guest46929: hard to tell, for example, I am using the array.org kernel for my Eeepc so I have the array.org repositories in there
[04:09] <jdu> pc: no
[04:09] <blouf> pc : i hope no
[04:09] <outbackwifi> schambers: look for chromium
[04:09] <jdu> pc: it is an option on the alternate cd
[04:09] <Guest46929> im on a laptop
[04:10] <scunizi> r33tfux0r: yes there's a couple of ways.. on cli tasksel lamp.. in synaptic there is a menu option to install lamp but you have to dig for it
[04:10] <outbackwifi> Guest46929: like they say, if you dont know what it is, you probably dont need it
[04:10] <blouf> pc, jdu : i don't want to format & make a new system ... i think i'll not use the ext4 :/
[04:10] <space_cadet> outbackwifi, eee  FTW
[04:10] <r33tfux0r> ahhh cool i thought it was a task
[04:10] <r33tfux0r> scunizi, thanks mate
[04:10] <studentz> perlooooooo: did you already install  libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2?
[04:10] <Guest46929> oki doki thanks outback
[04:10] <space_cadet> outbackwifi, actually, asus FTW
[04:10] <scunizi> r33tfux0r: if you look in synaptic for the tasks you'll see several things you can do.. no problem
[04:11] <evilhack02> EX4 is unstable I would not recommend
[04:11] <outbackwifi> space_cadet: whats an FTW
[04:11] <space_cadet> outbackwifi, me?  asus M70Vm-x1   <off topic>
[04:11] <pc> blouf: so the upgrade to jaunty should be somewhat painless (<hope>)
[04:11] <space_cadet> outbackwifi, For The Win
[04:11] <blouf> pc, jdu : do i really loose something great ?
[04:11] <blouf> pc, jdu : s/loose/lose
[04:11] <Patrick904> Hello. I want to update from 8.04 to 8.10. If I backup my home folder and replace it in 8.10 will my apps, themes, icons, and other settings be as they were in 8.04?
[04:11] <outbackwifi> space_cadet: i was addressing my responses to Guest46929
[04:12] <evilhack02> gnome art
[04:12] <evilhack02> www.gnomeart.com
[04:12] <CITguy-Artemis> Patrick904: they should, I would highly suggest that when you install 8.10, you separate / and /home on separate partitions
[04:12] <space_cadet> outbackwifi, i was saying that ASUS rocks, and I have one too.
[04:13] <space_cadet> +2   CITguy-Artemis
[04:13] <scunizi> Patrick904: back it up just for safety.. when you upgrade the apps etc will also be upgraded to the latest version available
[04:13] <outbackwifi> space_cadet: oh yes!! i have two of them 701 and 1000 H
[04:13] <pc> blouf: without ext4?
[04:13] <space_cadet> niice
[04:13] <syntax\> has anyone in here tried installing Epson LX-300 (dotmatrix) printer on ubuntu and succeded?
[04:14] <evilhack02>  EX4 alternative is in the kernel
[04:14] <syntax\> i really really really need to have this printer work on ubuntu 8.10
[04:14] <space_cadet> syntax\, sounds like my experience with a dell 725
[04:14] <blouf> pc, yes
[04:14] <syntax\> space_cadet: were you able to make it work sir?
[04:14] <pc> blouf: if you're happy with ext3, then no.  :-)
[04:14] <space_cadet> syntax\, nope,
[04:14] <scunizi> syntax\: epson I believe is one of those companies that doesn't even look at linux
[04:14] <space_cadet> syntax\, one of the only reasons i still have a windows partition.
[04:15] <space_cadet> scunizi, like dell and lexmark?
[04:15] <pc> blouf: and, you can always convert later
[04:15] <evilhack02> Linus Torvalds does not recommend it to work with a
[04:15] <scunizi> space_cadet: yep
[04:15] <outbackwifi> syntax\: i have used a dot matrix printer but not the epson model. I just selected generic 9-pin and it worked like a charm
[04:15] <space_cadet> outbackwifi, my asus has "instant on linux"
[04:16] <outbackwifi> space_cadet: whats that??
[04:16] <space_cadet> outbackwifi, proprietary splashtop
[04:16] <blouf> pc : oh ok
[04:16] <scunizi> space_cadet: syntax\ actually after googling epson might be ok.. for some models
[04:16] <outbackwifi> space_cadet: oh ok
[04:16] <space_cadet> outbackwifi, locked down no terminal, etc.  just web browser, skype gaim and music player
[04:16] <syntax\> outbackwifi: well i was able to have it working. but after i tried to shared it poof. i cannot print no more and even if it prints its all characters (useless characters)
[04:16] <syntax\> now it can't seem to work.
[04:17] <studentz> sintax: check this http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-LX-300
[04:17] <syntax\> and googling doesnt give any decent answers
[04:17] <scunizi> syntax\: see studentz link above
[04:17] <outbackwifi> syntax\: a lot of times, just deleting and adding a new printer works
[04:17] <space_cadet> yeah..   if it worked before.  there is still hope
[04:17] <evilhack02> macosx someone knows if it can be installed on ubuntu
[04:18] <outbackwifi> syntax\: if youre the adventurous types, tailing /var/log/cups/error_log helps
[04:18] <syntax\> outbackwifi: did that for a couple of times already
[04:18] <space_cadet> sure. evilhack02    you can make ubuntu look like mac os X
[04:18] <scunizi> evilhack02: in a vm.. maybe but it would be an evilhack :)
[04:18] <Zephyrum> HI guys, I'm sure this has been asked over 9k times, but I'm wondering if there's an official release time (not date) of jaunty?
[04:18] <scunizi> no
[04:18] <outbackwifi> !jaunty
[04:18] <syntax\> studentz: sir there are no drivers available in that link to be downlaoded
[04:19] <scunizi> syntax\: but info should be there.
[04:19] <evilhack02>  yes
[04:19] <space_cadet> evilhack02, google   ubuntu leopard
[04:19] <rayk_sland> need to disable all framebuffer stuff on start up including cute console fonts etc. How do I do it?
[04:20] <evilhack02> leopard
[04:20] <scunizi> syntax\: says that there is a ghostscript driver
[04:20] <space_cadet> evilhack02, you get a cool globalmenu  and splashy theme, as well as a nice gdm etc.
[04:20] <evilhack02>  no
[04:20] <draeath> I see 9.04 is out in 1 day. Should I put the RC on, or just wait?
[04:20] <evilhack02>  os  mac
[04:20] <Chaorain> I have Windows XP on a seperate hard drive that is raid 1(mirror). How can I mount it as 1 disk?
[04:20] <outbackwifi> rayk_sland: if you have a line in your menu.lst turning on fb, remove it. its typically vga=791 or something
[04:20] <fearthenofear> how do i install openoffice.org 3.0
[04:21] <space_cadet> evilhack02,  install it in a virtual box....   otherwise you may have problems installing it on your machine...
[04:21] <space_cadet> lol
[04:21] <space_cadet> mac on a pc
[04:21] <syntax\> scunizi: im trying to download the ghostscript 8.64
[04:21] <evilhack02> install  my linux
[04:21]  * scunizi wishes today would be the 24th and all the excitement will then be about the bugs in upgrading or unusual hardware quirks
[04:21] <space_cadet> it can be done, but it takes some haxx0r1ng
[04:21] <rayk_sland> outback: that only disables it until the initramfs is done. I think udev brings it all back...
[04:21] <scunizi> syntax\: ghostscript is in synaptic..
[04:21] <evilhack02>  virtual box   OHHH  yes
[04:21] <lolololo> actually latest macs are pcs
[04:21] <evilhack02> :-0
[04:22] <fearthenofear> anyone?
[04:22] <draeath> Anyone? I want to migrate back over to Ubuntu, but I'm wondering if I should go with the RC or wait another day.
[04:22] <space_cadet> scunizi, hey, i just installed the latest ubuntu, and now my screen says 'tty1'    can you help?     lol     <forseeing the future>
[04:22] <outbackwifi> rayk_sland: on another note, i remember recomipiling the kernel to turn on framebuffer. you might want to do the reverse.
[04:22] <scunizi> fearthenofear: you'll get it in the next release tomorrow.
[04:22] <space_cadet> draeath, i got the RC today...
[04:22] <fearthenofear> ahhh
[04:22] <evilhack02> 	
[04:22] <evilhack02> virtual box but does not support installing leopard
[04:22] <fearthenofear> alrighty
[04:22] <cyber_tux90> ih
[04:22] <scunizi> space_cadet: nope.. lol.. I'm running hardy right now on this lappy
[04:23] <Jordan_U> space_cadet, Is this the first boot?
[04:23] <cyber_tux90> IH
[04:23] <space_cadet> Jordan_U, it was a joke
[04:23] <draeath> space_cadet: I imagine things are mostly up to date? just the official switch-flipping tomorrow?
[04:23] <syntax\> scunizi: what to do after?
[04:23] <syntax\> :((
[04:23] <space_cadet> draeath, yeah
[04:23] <studentz> spacecadet:  ctr alt f7
[04:23] <Chaorain> !raid
[04:23] <draeath> space_cadet: thanks
[04:23] <scunizi> syntax\: after insall of ghostscript?  install the printer again and look for a driver
[04:23] <Spock2f> hi channel
[04:23] <fearthenofear> do i have to live cd install the new version tomorrow? or can i just update it somehow?
[04:23] <space_cadet> !hi | Spock2f
[04:23] <Spock2f> I not speak english
[04:24] <cyber_tux90> Hi spok2f
[04:24] <Keypad> Hi, I have seam to lost my whole desktop after restarting the other day. I have no idea whats wrong, any one got a clue ?
[04:24] <space_cadet> Spock2f, u speak ??
[04:24] <Jordan_U> Spock2f, What language do you speak?
[04:24] <Spock2f> Portuguese
[04:24] <Spock2f> Im live in brazil
[04:24] <space_cadet> !br
[04:24] <Spock2f> Yeap
[04:25] <pc> Keypad: you'll need to be a bit more descriptive
[04:25] <Jordan_U> Keypad, What do you mean by lost the desktop? ( Can't see icons on the desktop, log in to a blank screen, can't log in at all? )
[04:25] <space_cadet> ctrl alt f7 ?
[04:26] <space_cadet> lol
[04:26] <Keypad> pc, The Icons are gone, Cant right click, but all the panels are fine.
[04:26] <space_cadet> Keypad, open terminal.
[04:26] <Keypad> done
[04:26] <space_cadet> wait.
[04:26] <nmitree> my first time here
[04:26] <carthik> Keypad, try typing nautilus & in a terminal
[04:26] <smileboot> im sure this has been asked 10 million times. but does anyone know the time that 9.04 is being released? est preferably
[04:26] <scunizi> no
[04:26] <scunizi> no no no
[04:27] <space_cadet> no no no no
[04:27] <pc> !hi | nmitree
[04:27] <carthik> keypad, nautilus (the file manager) is what manages your "desktop" - and it might have died
[04:27] <outbackwifi> sorry dc
[04:27] <nmitree> Hi
[04:27] <malv> is there a way to get around the fact that windows xp will not install if there is an lvm partition on the disk?
[04:27] <nmitree> every one
[04:27] <eseven73> how do I add alias to .bashrc if it has quote marks in the command, such as watch -n 1 "netstat -tpanl | grep ESTABLISHED"   I get: bash: alias: -tpanl: not found
[04:27] <carthik> malv, #ubuntu aint #xp :P
[04:27] <Keypad> carthik,  I got [1] 7463
[04:27] <malv> but lvm is related
[04:28] <space_cadet> Keypad, if that doesn't work check your gconf-editor to make sure "draw desktop" is checked
[04:28] <Spock2f> space_cadet : it is a sad comment on it, but I am completing my studies in computer science
[04:28] <carthik> Keypad, kill it and restart it and see what gives
[04:28] <malv> i am trying to get coexistence between linux and xp
[04:28] <scunizi> malv: yep.. put an old drive in the machine as a secondary and install to that.. wipe the current drive, install then reinstall ubuntu
[04:28] <malv> eh, but i only have two disks and they both have lvm on them
[04:28] <Spock2f> is quite time that I stopped using IRC
[04:28] <space_cadet> malv, good luck
[04:28] <Jordan_U> malv, I don't know how, but given that distros like fedora use LVM by default it must be possible
[04:28] <smileboot> so no one knows the time?
[04:28] <Spock2f> I'm using Google Desktop to translate my Portuguese
[04:28] <space_cadet> smileboot, nope.
[04:29] <Keypad> carthik, I did that it just seams to pop up another file manager window
[04:29] <outbackwifi> !time
[04:29] <scunizi> Jordan_U:  what does fedora have to do with xp installing on an lvm drive?
[04:29] <outbackwifi> !lvm
[04:29] <space_cadet> Spock2f, i had google desktop installed, until i rebooted and noticed that my integrated webcam turned on during the boot phase...
[04:29] <eseven73> how do I add alias to .bashrc if it has quote marks in the command, such as watch -n 1 "netstat -tpanl | grep ESTABLISHED"   I get: bash: alias: -tpanl: not found
[04:29] <Ciros> lol space
[04:29] <carthik> Keypad, hmm, okay.
[04:29] <cyber_tux90> ‏
[04:29] <space_cadet> Spock2f, once in took google desktop off, it didn't happen again.
[04:29] <carthik> eseven73, you create a function instead
[04:30] <Jordan_U> scunizi, I thought that he was saying that windows was being confused by the existence of an LVM partition, he asked if this could be fixed in any way
[04:30] <Keypad> space_cadet, How do I check draw desktop in that config editor ?
[04:30] <t0cableguy> hi, i'm having trouble with amarok 2 on ubuntu 9.04 playing mp3's i am new.. so dont rail me too bad.. mp3 playback installed practically automatically in 8.10.. but no such luck with amarok 2
[04:30] <eseven73> carthik, how do I do that?
[04:30] <carthik> eseven73, for things that are more complicated try writing a function instead of an alias in .bashrc
[04:30] <scunizi> Jordan_U: yep.. windows is confused. won't install on a drive with an lvm partition
[04:30] <carthik> function myfunction { ...function here }
[04:30] <space_cadet> keypad  /apps/nautilus/preferences/show desktop
[04:31] <lolololo> eseven73, if you need to do it an alias, the quotes can be escaped with \
[04:31] <eseven73> carthik, ok thanks ill man bashrc or w/e the man page is for it :)
[04:31] <studentz> t0cableguy: Ubuntu 9.04 definitive release?
[04:31] <t0cableguy> no
[04:31] <eseven73> lolololo, hmmm you mean replace the quote marks with \   ?
[04:31] <t0cableguy> i got sick of waiting,
[04:31] <Keypad> space_cadet, hmm I just ticked it and unticked it and it came back :o
[04:31] <space_cadet> Keypad, if it was unchecked, you will need to restart your session or kill and restart nautilus to get the icons and shiz back
[04:32] <space_cadet> lol
[04:32] <outbackwifi> eseven73: create a file called eseven.sh paste this inside==> watch -n 1 "netstat -tpanl | grep ESTABLISHED"  and  chmod +x eseven.sh and move it /create symlink inside you bin
[04:32] <space_cadet> keypad niice
[04:32] <randomusr> after installing libdvdcss2 and restricted extras on my laptop, I'm not able to play DVDs, not that I could prior, but what's up?
[04:32] <Keypad> Thanks space_cadet !
[04:32] <Jordan_U> scunizi, Well I find it hard to believe that installing fedora would prevent windows from working, so again, there must be a way for them to coexist, unless I am misunderstanding the question
[04:32] <lolololo> no, prepend the \ to the quotes: watch -n 1 \"netstat -tpanl | grep ESTABLISHED\"
[04:32] <space_cadet> Keypad, yep
[04:32] <cyber_tux90> end
[04:32] <t0cableguy> studentz, vlc plays mp3's right now though
[04:32] <studentz> t0cableguy  I tested the version one moth before and Amarok played really good. Advice wait for the final release.
[04:33] <^Phantom^> nothing beats the sound of a vinyl o/~
[04:33] <Spock2f> I saw now, now that the 9:04 will be officially released:) I use the default OS as 9:04 in the notebook has a 2 months in
[04:33] <t0cableguy> yea, tomorrow...
[04:33] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, as long as you set it up right, everything plays mp3's
[04:33] <Spock2f> ops, in brazil is 00:33 now :)
[04:33] <scunizi> Jordan_U: I think we're coming from different ends.. I believe he had ubuntu installed with some of the drive using lvm.. then he wanted to install xp .. xp hic-uped because of the lvm
[04:33] <t0cableguy> well.. amarok is just crapping out on me
[04:33] <Spock2f> sorry for my bad English
[04:34] <ssm2017> hello
[04:34] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, havent tried since my fresh install... lemmie check
[04:34] <Spock2f> I read enough experience but it is impossible to actually learn English
[04:34] <t0cableguy> other than that everythings fine, cept for running separate x servers for nvidia
[04:34] <eseven73> lolololo, that worked thanks :)
[04:35] <lolololo> good :)
[04:35] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, and you expect THAT to work?
[04:35] <pc> Spock2f: English is pretty difficult language...it's not just you
[04:35] <t0cableguy> haha
[04:35] <t0cableguy> it worked in 8.10
[04:35] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, don't know if i like amarok's new gui
[04:35] <t0cableguy> its ok.. its shiny and pretty haha
[04:36] <scunizi> Jordan_U: xp I don't think would have an issue coexisting with any linux install as long as it is installed first.. in most cases.. it's just the lvm that was in question.
[04:36] <martin> hy
[04:36] <studentz> t0cableguy: oh yeah, new xserver and nvidia drivers will take some time to work
[04:36] <Keypad> lol, I cant find a music player I like, because they all are missing shit I want.
[04:36] <ghostfish> Keypad: I have the same problem
[04:36] <t0cableguy> for now i'm happy with the twiview and primary screen selection
[04:36] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, well it seems it's going to take a long time to parse my library, so i will get back to you in about 5 min or so
[04:36] <AK_Dave> Keypad: language :)
[04:36] <Spock2f> pc : I've had years of lessons but never really learn it, all my teachers say that the only way to learn is experience
[04:37] <AK_Dave> Keypad: What is it you NEED that is missing?
[04:37] <pc> Spock2f: that's often true with any language
[04:37] <morph3us> when will be available jaunty for download ?
[04:37] <pc> Spock2f: English just has SO many exceptions to rules
[04:37] <ghostfish> what I'd like is something with iTunes like song navigation (all one big list, not folder hierarchy on the side) and support for queueing, but alas I haven' found it yet
[04:37] <pc> !jaunty | morph3us
[04:38] <xlandx> What does this mean "Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to xlandx) from freenode-connect"
[04:38] <scunizi> ghostfish: check out songbird
[04:38] <t0cableguy> space_cadet, i dont like amarok's new gui, cus they tore half the options out of it....
[04:38] <AK_Dave> ghostfish: I hate the "one giant list" thing in iTunes.
[04:38] <carthik> xlandx, nothing, that is the server checking out how you connect etc
[04:39] <xlandx> Oh ok, thanks carthik
[04:39] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, oh wow
[04:39] <scunizi> xlandx: it's the riaa checking your hd for p2p songs
[04:39] <Spock2f> I do not know how you see the Brazil, I probably do not know the world as you also do not know Brazil, the media in my view masks the reality of the facts
[04:39] <space_cadet> scunizi, xlandx and movies, games etc
[04:39] <ghostfish> AK_Dave: I like it becase then I don't need to keep popping open and closing folders to get at my music, plus I can scroll through and just look at everything, kind of like flipping through a magazine to look for things you like
[04:40] <pc> Spock2f: that's what the internet is for (maybe) :-)
[04:40] <t0cableguy> space, is there any good alternative that works similar?
[04:40] <DogBoy> Spock2f, less so than no media at all
[04:40] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, not that ive found
[04:40] <space_cadet> yet
[04:40] <AK_Dave> ghostfish: 10,000 songs is a lot to filter through by hand that way.
[04:40] <scunizi> AK_Dave: he's a speed reader
[04:41] <pc> it's the google way.  search for everything, no folders
[04:41] <ghostfish> AK_Dave: I've got over 5k and don't really have a problem with it, just type the first few letters when sorted by artist if you want to find something, or use the search bar
[04:41] <t0cableguy> space, i miss my simple dumb winamp... they always do it right and nobody appreciates it haha...
[04:41] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, well...      chalk another one on amarok bugs
[04:41] <AK_Dave> ghostfish: You can't search in Amarok?
[04:42] <Jordan_U> Spock2f, This is a support channel only, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:42] <t0cableguy> amarok wont play my mp3's right now for some reason.. prob some bug with 9.04
[04:42] <scunizi> t0cableguy: check out xmms2
[04:42] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, ubuntu-bugs amarok
[04:42] <ghostfish> AK_Dave: but you still have to deal with all the folders (or at least you did last time I tried it)
[04:42] <scunizi> t0cableguy: or audacious
[04:43] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/365377
[04:44] <Spock2f> sorry Jordan_U, you are right, bye space_cadet pc DogBoy good day for all and congratulations for new release 9.04 :)
[04:44] <M4d3L> hi. am looking for help to access my sd disk on my video camera. Here is the log when I plug my camera via usb : http://paste2.org/p/189774  but when I try to mount it I have this error : Apr 22 23:38:53 mdelisle-laptop kernel: [47309.910486] Buffer I/O error on device sdc1, logical block 0
[04:44] <space_cadet> yep
[04:44] <t0cableguy> thanks space
[04:44] <Spock2f> bye
[04:44] <Kr0ntab> t0cableguy: totem is pretty simple in terms of playing files quickly...
[04:44] <AK_Dave> M4d3L: What happens when you just plug the SD card into your computer's card reader slot?
[04:44] <jh_ubuntu> who can use the "makefile"?
[04:44] <t0cableguy> naa. i'm looking for the support for large collections
[04:44] <space_cadet> AK_Dave, it should "just mount"
[04:44] <M4d3L> its an internal SDD.
[04:44] <Kr0ntab> oic... I personally enjoy Banshee
[04:45] <MindVirus> I'm on appendix D in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578&page=11 and I'm getting errors starting pulseaudio. Please help.
[04:45] <M4d3L> AK_Dave: I cant remove it from the camera
[04:45] <AK_Dave> M4d3L: Whats an internal SDD? The camera, or the computer?
[04:45] <MindVirus> E: alsa-util.c: Failed to set hardware parameters on plug:equalized: Invalid argument
[04:45] <Kr0ntab> t0cableguy: have you tried banshee before?  http:/banshee-project.org
[04:45] <M4d3L> I have a JVC Everio SDD video camera
[04:45] <AK_Dave> M4d3L: Bad camera if you can't remove the memory. The 90's called and they want their camera back.
[04:45] <Kr0ntab> it's in the repo
[04:45] <MindVirus> Any suggestions?
[04:46] <Reformer81> I'm trying to install the latest beta of Amarok (2.1), but I can't find anything with Google... how do I do this?
[04:46] <pc> M4d3L: when you plug it in, it doesn't do anything automatically?  are you trying to mount manually?
[04:46] <t0cableguy> kr0ntab no, i'm new to the whole ubuntu and linux world.. just starting to figure out the apps i like..
[04:46] <Kr0ntab> Oh okay.. yeah you'll like Banshee.. check out their website.
[04:46] <t0cableguy> kr0ntab, most i already used in vista
[04:47] <M4d3L> pc: it doesnt do anything automatic when I plug it. I only see some log
[04:47] <t0cableguy> kr0ntab, its in the synaptics add/remove
[04:48] <Kr0ntab> yup...
[04:48] <t0cableguy> so i'll have in in a sec
[04:48] <M4d3L> any tool exist to repair disk error?
[04:48] <n8tuser> fsck ?
[04:48] <M4d3L> because on the camera I can see what I have record
[04:48] <scunizi> !fsck | M4d3L
[04:49] <M4d3L> so data is readable
[04:49] <pc> M4d3L: not sure...I wonder if it has a weird format
[04:49] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, hmm
[04:49] <space_cadet> t0cableguy, banshee doesn't play mp3's either
[04:49] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone tell me whats the command to get xorg detect my displays and configure them
[04:49] <lawlzfries> i wish to upgrade from debian testing/unstable to intrepid. I currently have hoary packages installed, but i cannot run do-release-upgrade, because testing/unstable is not in the meta-release file. I was wondering if i could change my dist to hoary.
[04:49] <t0cableguy> space_cadet, ??
[04:50] <scunizi> space_cadet: it should.. with the restricted extras
[04:50] <space_cadet> nevermind
[04:50] <AussieGuy> ive just cloned my ubuntu install and all other partitions to a new hard drive with gparted. If I want to boot from that hard drive, do I just load boot cdrom, chroot in and run grub?
[04:50] <space_cadet> it just took a time
[04:50] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone tell me whats the command to get xorg detect my displays and configure them
[04:50] <space_cadet> scunizi, t0cableguy it just took a min
[04:50] <matsuo> Hey, is the new version due out in 10 minutes?
[04:50] <space_cadet> scunizi, t0cableguy i was still reading my library
[04:50] <t0cableguy> space_cadet, mk.. i''ve got all the time in the world.. haha
[04:50] <space_cadet> works fine
[04:51] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone tell me whats the command to get xorg detect my displays and configure them
[04:51] <scunizi> AussieGuy: you should be able to just boot to it without using a cdrom or anything
[04:51] <t0cableguy> will 9.04 update to the official release automatically?
[04:51] <scunizi> AussieGuy: provided you also imaged the boot sector along with everything else
[04:51] <scunizi> t0cableguy: no
[04:51] <AussieGuy> scunizi: nope just cloned the parititions
[04:51] <scunizi> t0cableguy: yes.. if you have RC now
[04:51] <AussieGuy> thinking  of a way to change the boot sector of that hard drive and make it sda instead of sdb
[04:52] <Reformer81> I'm trying to install the latest beta of Amarok (2.1), but I can't find anything with Google... how do I do this?
[04:52] <t0cableguy> scunizi, yea i just downloaded it in the past couple days
[04:52] <krammer_> how can i install this jre-6u13-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[04:52] <scunizi> AussieGuy: if you cloned the partition containing the boot record then you should be ok as long as you put the partitions back on the new drive in the same order they were in
[04:52] <matsuo> How much longer till 9.04 is officially released?
[04:52] <scunizi> t0cableguy: you're fine
[04:52] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone tell me whats the command to get xorg detect my video displays and configure them
[04:52] <space_cadet> matsuo, we don't know
[04:52] <t0cableguy> scunizi, thanks
[04:52] <AussieGuy> well not quite....one small 5gb partition was missing
[04:52] <outbackwifi> !jaaunty| matsuo
[04:52] <outbackwifi> !jaunty| matsuo
[04:52] <space_cadet> matsuo, give it a couple of hours
[04:52] <AussieGuy> and the swap is larger and in a different place
[04:53] <n8tuser> PerryArmstrong -> sudo ddcprobe
[04:53] <AussieGuy> but the main windows and main linux paritions were cloned
[04:53] <AussieGuy> same place as before
[04:53] <matsuo> space_cadet: Ok, thanks
[04:53] <birdman99501> w
[04:53] <scunizi> AussieGuy: give it a try.. if no joy then you'll have to reinstall grub
[04:53] <AussieGuy> and id chroot in to do that?
[04:53] <outbackwifi> AussieGuy: just boot from liveCD and edit /etc/fstab, /boot/grub/menu.lst reflect the new environment and then reboot with HDD
[04:53] <AussieGuy> from a boot cd
[04:53] <birdman99501> exit
[04:53] <outbackwifi> AussieGuy: oops mount the harddisk
[04:53] <scunizi> !grub | AussieGuy
[04:54] <PerryArmstrong> n8tuser; there was some command that used to set the screen resolution automatically.. any idea about that
[04:54] <AK_Dave> outbackwifi: What about 'sudo update-grub'?
[04:54] <outbackwifi> AK_Dave: never done that so cant comment
[04:54] <n8tuser> PerryArmstrong -> dont know of any that automatically adjust rez
[04:54] <krammer_> how can i install this jre-6u13-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[04:55] <Flynsarmy> what's the difference between sudo aptitude and sudo apt-get? is there any?
[04:55] <outbackwifi> PerryArmstrong: infact the Xserver itself is pretty intuitive and automatically adjusts resolution
[04:55] <AK_Dave> outbackwifi: I'd try to fix an existing grub before reinstalling it. Not sure what his boot problem is, but its an easy command.
[04:55] <scunizi> krammer_: where'd you get that? looks like an rpm not a .deb.. jre etc is in synaptic
[04:55] <outbackwifi> Flynsarmy: aptitude  is a curses based frontend to apt-get
[04:55] <PerryArmstrong> outbackwifi; no itsn't coming up with that...
[04:55] <krammer_> scunizi, sun website
[04:55] <t0cableguy> in banshee can i used more than one folder for my collection.. right now i'm kinda a mess with my music..
[04:55] <outbackwifi> AK_Dave: i havent said anything about reinstalling grub
[04:55] <AK_Dave> outbackwifi: He cloned over his drives, so if its Ubuntu then his grub uses UUID and those codes would be borked.
[04:56] <scunizi> krammer_: look in system/admin/synaptic and search for jre.. install from there
[04:56] <krammer_> scunizi, thanks
[04:56] <outbackwifi> AK_Dave: just use blkid to get the  UUID of the new drives after he boots from live  cd
[04:56] <PerryArmstrong> outbackwifi; here's my problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1115684   and right now i have upgraded to jaunty
[04:56] <scunizi> krammer_: np.. synaptic should be the first choice always.. after that.. compiling from source or perhaps locating a .deb from a reputable source
[04:57] <outbackwifi> PerryArmstrong: sorry havent got a clue about Jaunty
[04:57] <AK_Dave> AussieGuy: Do you have a linux console on this machine now?
[04:57] <lstarnes> .24
[04:57] <AK_Dave> PerryArmstrong: You need to ask Jaunty questions on #ubuntu+1
[04:58] <AussieGuy> yep running on the normal ubuntu but not the cloned one
[04:58] <PerryArmstrong> outbackwifi; it isn't about jaunty..the problem is with screen resolution that started from intrepid
[04:58] <AussieGuy> wanting to change to the cloned one
[04:58] <PerryArmstrong> outbackwifi; and still existing in jaunty also
[04:58] <AK_Dave> AussieGuy: Then it would be easy to do 'blkid' and compare those UUID codes with the ones in fstab and menu.lst
[04:58] <pc> PerryArmstrong: what does xrandr -q report?
[04:58] <outbackwifi> PerryArmstrong: in Interpid its ok to leave your xorg.conf empty
[05:00] <PerryArmstrong> pc, outbackwifi; can you check this http://paste.ubuntu.com/156304/
[05:00] <deemo> hey guys! i just updated to jaunty, but my top menu bar for every maximized app is gone! It does this with bth compiz and metacity. Any pointers?
[05:00] <alphaaquilae> how to proceede to move from 8.10 to 9.04 ?
[05:01] <coder_> When i start up ubuntu9.04, i get  a error/warning pulseaudio configured  for pre-user sessions, and my system has no sound,Could you help me?
[05:01] <AK_Dave> PerryArmstrong: Thats a nice log of a mistyped command. The command you wanted was 'dkpg-reconfigure' not 'dpkg --reconfigure'
[05:01] <PerryArmstrong> alphaaquilae; check this http://ossarchives.blogspot.com
[05:01] <AK_Dave> PerryArmstrong: You also could have tried 'man dpkg' or even, as suggested in the screencap, 'dpkg --help'
[05:02] <Junior> oi
[05:02] <outbackwifi> PerryArmstrong: its actually sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[05:02] <coder_> When i start up ubuntu9.04, i get  a error/warning pulseaudio configured  for pre-user sessions, and my system has no sound,Could you help me?
[05:02] <Junior> Ola
[05:02] <alphaaquilae> can you give a link for 9.04 ?
[05:02]  * AK_Dave points all Jaunty questions to #ubuntu+1
[05:02] <^Phantom^> hey
[05:02] <outbackwifi> !es| Junior
[05:03] <^Phantom^> in gimp
[05:03] <bwm> hi, I'm having an issue with my wireless not connecting on an Inspiron 1525 after u/g to 8.04  Some preliminaries here http://pastebin.com/m38edd7dd
[05:03] <^Phantom^> is there any way to copy pixels
[05:03] <^Phantom^> ?
[05:03] <PerryArmstrong> outbackwifi; thanks..i'll just restart and it if it has helped
[05:03] <outbackwifi> PerryArmstrong: np
[05:03] <AK_Dave> PerryArmstrong: Just restart X. Faster. No reboot!
[05:03] <coder_> When i start up ubuntu9.04, i get  a error/warning pulseaudio configured  for pre-user sessions, and my system has no sound,Could you help me?
[05:04] <AK_Dave> coder_: #ubuntu+1
[05:04] <outbackwifi> jaunty| coder_
[05:04] <outbackwifi> !jaunty| coder_
[05:04] <mib_3qs0gm> hi
[05:04] <PerryArmstrong> AK_Dave; how to restart X
[05:04] <mib_3qs0gm> i need help w/ something... my system freaked on me, required a manual fsck
[05:04] <mib_3qs0gm> now i'm worried about getting it back to normal, any help?
[05:05] <AK_Dave> PerryArmstrong: With Intrepid: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[05:05] <outbackwifi> PerryArmstrong: in your case, just start x not restart :)
[05:05] <pc> ^Phantom^: copy what pixels?
[05:05] <outbackwifi> PerryArmstrong: im assuming you dont have X running
[05:05] <AK_Dave> outbackwifi: Yeah, thats safer.
[05:05] <alphaaquilae> where is source.list in the hd ?
[05:05] <AK_Dave> alphaaquilae: you mean sources.list ??
[05:05] <outbackwifi> alphaaquilae: /etc/apt/
[05:06]  * AK_Dave doesn't have a source.list but has a /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:06] <alphaaquilae> thx outbackwifi
[05:06] <PerryArmstrong> outbackwifi; i dont know anything about that
[05:06] <outbackwifi> PerryArmstrong: then you neednt worry
[05:06] <AK_Dave> PerryArmstrong: X is the GUI. Do you have a GUI or just a big text console?
[05:06] <bwm> am I in the right channel for wifi help?
[05:06] <PerryArmstrong> AK_Dave; i have gui
[05:07] <outbackwifi> bwm: not unless its inside ubuntu
[05:07] <bwm> hmmm.... I'm thinking it is
[05:07] <bwm> it worked before in 7.X
[05:08] <outbackwifi> bwm: it still works
[05:08] <AK_Dave> bwm: Your paste doesn't give any information about  your wifi hardware or installed kernel modules. Do 'lspci -vvnn'
[05:08] <ubuntu9> when is the new links to 9.04 going to show on the east coast
[05:08] <bwm> will do
[05:09] <koolkartik> Is Ubuntu 9.0.4 released?
[05:09] <outbackwifi> !jaunty| coder_
[05:09] <ubuntu9> needs to be!!!
[05:09] <deemo> hey guys! i just updated to jaunty, but my top menu bar for every maximized app is gone! It does this with both compiz and metacity. Any pointers?
[05:09] <outbackwifi> !jaunty| deemo
[05:09] <outbackwifi> sowe coder_
[05:09] <AK_Dave> deemo: #ubuntu+1
[05:09] <dadoy> hi
[05:09] <deemo> AK_Dave: gotcha, thanks
[05:09] <bwm> AK_Dave see http://pastebin.com/m54e7dbec
[05:10] <brand0con> how do i recover my nick password on freenode?
[05:10] <anooptp> hai everybody
[05:10] <Pici> brand0con: Join #freenode and ask
[05:10] <outbackwifi> !hi| anooptp
[05:10] <anooptp> i am new in ubuntu
[05:11] <anooptp> i have a sound problem
[05:11] <outbackwifi> !enter| anooptp
[05:11] <anooptp> i had no sound for last 3 day
[05:11] <AK_Dave> bwm: You have an Intel 3945ABG. It has good linux support. It should have loaded automatically.
[05:12] <anooptp> no mute in keyboard,alsa channel mix selected,sound card detected
[05:12] <bwm> hmmm....
[05:12] <celthunder> anooptp, do you have it muted (check alsamixer)
[05:12] <anooptp> no mute in keyboard,alsa channel mix selected,sound card detected
[05:12] <outbackwifi> bwm: it is loaded hence the output of iwconfig; you just need to ensure you have the encryptions matched etc etc
[05:12] <bwm> AK_Dave - I went to the Dell support website - they mentioned that the wifi LED needed to be patched - I did that
[05:12] <anooptp> wen i use live cd there is sound
[05:13] <bwm> AK_Dave: but the LED light still does not come on
[05:13] <bwm> outbackwifi: can you elaborate?
[05:13] <anooptp> celthunderpls help me
[05:13] <bwm> outbackwifi: ah, you mean the WEP & all that
[05:14] <AK_Dave> bwm: Your paste didn't include what modules you're using. lspci -vvnn should be more verbose than that.
[05:14] <pc> anooptp: what did you change 3 days ago?  :-)
[05:14] <koolkartik> :_
[05:14] <koolkartik> :)
[05:14] <anooptp> nothing
[05:14] <outbackwifi> bwm: your wireless card is working. in fact if you run sudo iwlist eth1 scanning, it should show you the scan results. you just need to configure the wireless settings in your  network manager
[05:14] <zerothis> I vaguely recall from my redhat 5.0 days, finding an insane option to 'do not automount' a partition. (insane cuz I could barely manage to manually mount anything, why disable the possibility). Does xubuntu have a similar option, I'd rather not have an ntfs partition mounted without a good reason first
[05:15] <outbackwifi> zerothis: comment it out in your /etc/fstab
[05:15] <AK_Dave> bwm: I think your kernel module is 'iwlwifi' and should be listed in lsmod
[05:15] <bwm> outbackwifi: got iwlist: unknown command `eth1' (check 'iwlist --help').
[05:15] <anooptp> any help
[05:16] <thebackwash> The evening hangs beneath the moon
[05:16] <thebackwash> A silver thread on darkened dune
[05:16] <thebackwash> With closing eyes and resting head
[05:16] <thebackwash> I know that sleep is coming soon
[05:16] <thebackwash> Upon my pillow, safe in bed
[05:16] <FloodBot2> thebackwash: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:16] <thebackwash> A thousand pictures fill my head
[05:16] <outbackwifi> bwm: that command works for me (ubuntu 8.10)
[05:17] <outbackwifi> bwm: what exactly did you type?
[05:17] <AK_Dave> bwm: Oh, wait. You have the ethernet cable plugged in, right?
[05:17] <zerothis> outbackwifi: and it will not ever come back, unless I uncomment it?
[05:17] <bwm> confirmed it's in lsmod
[05:17] <outbackwifi> zerothis: yes
[05:17] <bwm> AK_Dave: yep, otherwise I would not be IRC
[05:18] <Lartza_> Do usb wlan adapters and repeaters break often?
[05:18] <AK_Dave> bwm: And thats why your wireless isn't connecting to your router.
[05:18] <bwm> AK_Dave: ts from the machine, maybe should have mentioned that
[05:18] <Lartza_> OR are they long term solution?
[05:18] <outbackwifi> AK_Dave: i dont think thats correct at all; these two arent related
[05:18] <zerothis> outbackwifi: cool, thanks
[05:18] <will__> yo
[05:19] <AK_Dave> outbackwifi: I've never had Network Manager allow me to have a wifi connection on my laptops if I have a wired ethernet connection.
[05:19] <outbackwifi> AK_Dave: funny, i have it all  the time
[05:19] <outbackwifi> AK_Dave: though you have to have the two on separate networks
[05:19] <jh_ubuntu> i have some problemd
[05:20] <ags> hi
[05:20] <jh_ubuntu> about klm
[05:20] <AK_Dave> outbackwifi: If both are auto and connecting to the same router... no workie.
[05:20] <outbackwifi> AK_Dave: how else would you be able to run hostapd etc?
[05:20] <paul68> AK_Dave: I work with wifi and it works like a charm on my laptop
[05:20] <outbackwifi> AK_Dave: what wont work is the routing but association with router, no problem
[05:21] <outbackwifi> bwm: in any case, when you click on network manager do you see a list of access points?
[05:21] <syntax\> outbackwifi: i was able to make it work
[05:21] <syntax\> wee
[05:21] <outbackwifi> syntax\: the printer?
[05:21] <Z3ro3X> What time zone is 9.04 being released on?
[05:21] <outbackwifi> syntax\: what did you do?
[05:21] <syntax\> yes
[05:21] <syntax\> did an update
[05:22] <syntax\> then downloaded a stand alone driver
[05:22] <AK_Dave> outbackwifi: haven't tried it since hardy. used to be I'd have a wireless connection, plug the cable in, and wireless would drop and I'd pick back up with a wired connection with a short delay.
[05:22] <bwm> outbackwifi: I see the Wired Network, Connect to 802.1X protected... , and Manual config
[05:22] <Anacranom>  tried to add a network printer shared on a windows box- received message- "There were no print shares found.  Please check that the Samba service is marked as trusted in your firewall configuration. To do this, select System->Administration->Firewall from the main menu." But there is no "Firewall" there, and i edited the menu and there's no option to add it, anyone know where this is?
[05:22] <outbackwifi> bwm: when you right-click is 'Enable Wireless' checked?
[05:23] <Lartza_> i can't find wireless repeaters anywhere on net and i don't even know what is it in my language :S
[05:23] <coder_> how can i enter the room ubuntu+1
[05:23] <zerothis> outbackwifi: so what if its not in /etc/fstab/?
[05:23] <AK_Dave> coder_: /join #ubuntu+1
[05:23] <outbackwifi> coder_: just type /join #ubuntu+1
[05:23] <bwm> outbackwifi: it has Enable Networking checked - only option
[05:23] <coder_> thanks
[05:24] <outbackwifi> bwm: huh? no wireless at all? then back to square one. Your wireless card is not enabled... :)
[05:24] <celthunder> lalrtza you can get a repeater by buying one of those cheap linksys wrt54gs they call a "router" and flash it with dd-wrt and then itll have reapeater mode (not e it also supposedly has vlans and other stuff though how you can have a vlan in a router which would kind of defeat the purpose of a router (broadcast domains..) and make it more of a switch (collision domain divider) not sure...though the repeater thing works cause im using one right now for
[05:24] <celthunder>  that
[05:24] <racecar56> bye
[05:24] <zhanx> after much effort my optical output is working on my razor card
[05:24] <bwm> outbackwifi: yeah, I've been going through various forums on the web, and trying things, but no cigar, hence my presence ;)
[05:25] <space_cadet> arrgh
[05:25] <paul68> outbackwifi: could it be that his wifi driver is in the restricted hardware driver list?
[05:25] <AK_Dave> bwm: But iwlwifi should have been loaded and enabled from the start. Should have been you just L-click the nm-applet icon, click your network name, and connect.
[05:25] <jtth> so i have a question: where the hell is 9.04
[05:25] <philsf> is there a way to make network-manager set up network connections before login? including protected wifi ones?
[05:26] <AK_Dave> jtth: /join #ubuntu+1
[05:26] <tritium> jtth: easy there, please
[05:26] <paul68> !jaunty
[05:26] <overshard> While using my USB Audia DAC/AMP why am i getting this error when using alsa "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback." and it works fine on oss o.O
[05:26] <AK_Dave> philsf: That would not be secure.
[05:26] <Lux215> Hi, I am using Ubuntu 8.10, sort of new to it, and am using AWN, so I have no need for the top gnome panel, how do I delete it completely?
[05:26] <sara_> I have a problem in gnome where I changed a resoultion setting and my display is now garbled , same on reboot , went to /etc/X11 and looked at xorg.conf but there was to of them , because i installed ati fglrx one was called that and one xorg.failsafe (none called backup)
[05:26] <bwm> this would be a lot easier if I knew what I was doing :D
[05:26] <dadoy> exit
[05:26] <pc> Lux215: right click -> Delete Panel ?
[05:26] <celthunder> lux215 right click on it and go to delete
[05:27] <sara_> and now i trie dthe command cp xorg.failfe over the xorg.fglrx and it took but did not correct
[05:27] <celthunder> pc beat me to it lol
[05:27] <pc> celthunder: great minds...
[05:27] <philsf> AK_Dave, I disagree. Do you know how can I do it?
[05:27] <Lux215> Works for all of the panels except the very last one...
[05:27] <AK_Dave> sara_: Is it possible that fglrx doesn't properly support your hardware?
[05:27] <Lux215> I don't want to hide it, I want a cleaner look.
[05:27] <sara_> now i have 2 of the same can I reinstall xorg.conf ? to get it back to the way I had it before fglrx attempt ?
[05:28] <celthunder> lux215 go into the disettings menu under applications and go to panel
[05:28] <AK_Dave> sara_: You could 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to reverse it.
[05:28] <celthunder> Lux215, you can resize,move, and change your panels look from there
[05:28] <paul68> where can you find the mails stored in thunderbird?
[05:28] <paul68> on the harddrive
[05:28] <sara_> AK_Dave thanks a million
[05:28] <josh977> God, I hate ATI
[05:28] <celthunder> josh977, why?
[05:28] <sara_> AK_Dave I had to come to kde to type eher
[05:29] <sara_> here
[05:29] <Lux215> celthunder where do I find the disettings menu
[05:29] <Lux215> i'm sort of new to this
[05:29] <celthunder> Lux215, under applications...
[05:29] <sara_> can I do it here within KDE , dumb question I know
[05:29] <josh977> Work issued laptop with ATI. Everything at my work has ATI. Always have problems with it on Linux.
[05:29] <celthunder> sara yes you can open a terminal
[05:29] <sara_> thx
[05:29] <outbackwifi> paul68:  .thunderbird/default.qre/Mail/  where default.qre is the profile folder (yours could be different)
[05:29] <celthunder> josh977, my stuff works fine...though i have an nvidia chipset motherboard ati graphics card....
[05:29] <Lux215> Celthunder... I don't have an applications button
[05:30] <Lartza_> I am wondering is lan that bad to penetrate eg. walls?
[05:30] <paul68> outbackwifi: thanks
[05:30] <sara_> "  Use kernel framebuffer device interface? "
[05:30] <celthunder> Lartza_, what?
[05:30] <AK_Dave> brb, 2yo peed on me
[05:30] <ipodman715> lol
[05:30] <ubuntunoobneedin> my package manage says i have thunderbird installed but i cannot find it where would it be
[05:30] <Lartza_> I have an apartment about...10 meters long and wlan can't reach from side to side
[05:30] <celthunder> Lux215, look around in your system menu then
[05:30] <outbackwifi> ubuntunoobneedin: Applications->Internet
[05:31] <Lartza_> And I just found out its cheapest to move my router to middle of apartment and buy 3 wlan adapters
[05:31] <paul68> AK_Dave: you should use diapers for this matter ;-)
[05:31] <celthunder> Lartza_, your nic is broken or your wireless router is
[05:31] <sara_> AK_Dave "  Use kernel framebuffer device interface? "
[05:31] <outbackwifi> Lartza_: that really sucks
[05:31] <AK_Dave> paul68: 2yo, training
[05:31] <outbackwifi> sara_: hes gone to clean up
[05:31] <sara_> AK_Dave  is the question it asks
[05:31] <bwm> outbackwifi: ok, so punt?
[05:31] <AK_Dave> sara_: sure
[05:31] <paul68> AK_Dave: training to be clean I get it same problem here hehehe
[05:31] <Lux215> Celthunder no disettings
[05:32] <celthunder> Lux215, look in system/administration then if you are in gnome itsp robably under that
[05:32] <Lartza_> Well was this when I had my ZyXel... now I have Wippies box which is basically modified Bewan
[05:32] <mrjohns> Is 9.04 released ? 23 is the date, but I don't see anything on the page.
[05:32] <AK_Dave> Lartza_: install dd-wrt on wifi router, boost the output to max legal.
[05:32] <pragad7> hello drivers problem(i guess) cannot enabel desktop effects. no dricvers are to be found in system>administration>hardware drivers
[05:32] <sara_> okay so now its done and so gnome should be back to baseline if i reboot ?
[05:32] <meshuggah_> in how many hours, 9.04 will be stable?
[05:32] <Lartza_> AK_Dave: It isn't made for my box sadly :(
[05:33] <paul68> !jaunty
[05:33] <zhanx> like meshuggah_ ubuntu+1
[05:33] <Lux215> Celthunder when i go into gconf-editor i have found where the panel is, it won't let me delete it
[05:33] <AK_Dave> Lartza_: naughty router
[05:33] <Lartza_> I've looked into that dd-wrt thing
[05:33] <sara_> thanks a million IRC gods and goddesses !!!
[05:33] <Lartza_> And also I coudln't change after next fall
[05:33] <AK_Dave> sara_: It works now, right?
[05:33] <celthunder> Lartza_, use it...though some of the functions it puts on i doubt work.
[05:33] <celthunder> Lux215, why not?
[05:34] <pragad7> hello anyone anything about not being able to enable desktop effeects
[05:34] <pragad7> help please
[05:34] <Lux215> celthunder not sure... press delete, nothing, right click, no option to delete.
[05:34] <Lartza_> but should router get 10 meter and through 4-6 walls?
[05:34] <paul68> !ask |pragad7
[05:34] <AK_Dave> Lartza_: Mine does
[05:34] <Tetracomm> I'm writing an article about old computers on my website, and about how Ubuntu can be beneficial to poor people that can't afford to upgrade their old computers.
[05:34] <Lartza_> Hmm...
[05:34] <Tetracomm> :)
[05:34] <celthunder> Lartza_, yes im going through 3 floors and im doing just fine
[05:34] <KSho> a que horas sale el ubuntu nuevo??
[05:35] <Lartza_> then the usb adapters could have been bad too
[05:35] <AK_Dave> Lartza_: You could mod the antennae.
[05:35] <Lartza_> some a-link first without and then with antennas didnt work
[05:35] <bwm> hey, how come there's no releases planned beyond 9.04?
[05:35] <Lartza_> what about this? usb or pci?
[05:35] <AK_Dave> bwm: They are planned.
[05:36] <Lux215> i've been on multiple forums looking for an answer... looks like this one hasn't been solved yet...
[05:36] <paul68> !es | KSHo
[05:36] <bwm> AK_Dave: cool!
[05:36] <testbox_jaunty> is jaunty out yet anyone?
[05:36] <paul68> !jaunty
[05:36] <Xiaopi[work]> it's today already?
[05:37] <AK_Dave> bwm: 9.10 is planned for Oct of this year. Karmic Koala ??
[05:37] <Xiaopi[work]> omg i didn't feel theses 6months at all ~~
[05:38] <pragad7> any drivers compatibility expert here
[05:38] <pragad7> intel 945g ???
[05:38] <joserodrigo> hello...  please some help with wireless problem on 9.04
[05:39] <pragad7> u got 9.04 how
[05:39] <paul68> joserodrigo: go to #ubuntu+1
[05:39] <joserodrigo> the beta.. but updated every day
[05:39]  * outbackwifi gotta go
[05:39] <legolasw> Hi
[05:39] <cweagans> any idea what time the new Ubuntu release is coming out tomorrow? (and in what time zone?)
[05:39] <legolasw> Anyone know when will 9.04 release? I mean how much more hours?
[05:40] <pragad7> !jaunty ubottu
[05:40] <paul68> !jaunty |cweagans
[05:40] <usser> cweagans, even if it comes out tomorrow, you wont be able to upgrade, all server will be on their knees :)
[05:41] <celthunder> cweagans, its the 23rd so its out already
[05:41] <cweagans> usser: perhaps bit torrent would be a better alternative?
[05:41] <laburd> Hi ubuntu
[05:41] <laburd> 9.04 rules
[05:41] <cweagans> celthunder: it's the 23 for you.....still 22 for me
[05:41] <usser> cweagans, apt-p2p
[05:41] <bijit> one quick question... the meneu bar is missing in some of thr apps.. like synaptic and pidginn
[05:41] <cweagans> usser: don't have a working installation right now :(
[05:41] <user5> nerr
[05:41] <user5> nero
[05:42] <laburd> Im running 9.04 right now
[05:42] <usser> cweagans, no worries then, torrents are damn fast, i cant use it though, torrent is throttled here :)
[05:42] <user5> internet
[05:42] <BladeNBrocade> apt-p2p?
[05:42] <laburd> Will I have to reinstall when the Final version comes out
[05:42] <Tetracomm> Has anyone here already written about the benefits of using Ubuntu on a website?
[05:42] <BladeNBrocade> really?
[05:42] <legolasw> laburd, where you get 9.04? It is not released yet.
[05:42] <paul68> laburd: release candidate or final version?
[05:42] <cweagans> Tetracomm: you mean as a webserver? or the benefits of using Ubuntu as an OS?
[05:42] <bijit> rc
[05:42] <usser> BladeNBrocade, yep
[05:42] <lstarnes> legolasw: there are release candidates out
[05:43] <BladeNBrocade> usser: awesome,, would need to check that...
[05:43] <Tetracomm> As an OS, cweagans.
[05:43] <legolasw> RCs not the FCS
[05:43] <lstarnes> legolasw: however, it is probably best to wait for the final release
[05:43] <user5> nro 7
[05:43] <user5> nero 7
[05:43] <cweagans> Tetracomm: I'm sure it's been done, if not for Ubuntu, then for Linux in general
[05:43] <user5> buy
[05:43] <BladeNBrocade> usser: you know.. they say torrents are responsible for atLEAST 30% of internet traffic,,
[05:43] <space_cadet> bull
[05:44] <space_cadet> it's more around 50-60
[05:44] <usser> BladeNBrocade, nah, its porn... and not 30, 90%
[05:44] <laburd> It is release candidate
[05:44] <BladeNBrocade> i said atLEAST
[05:44] <laburd> If you download release candidate
[05:44] <AK_Dave> space_cadet: 50-60% is what I'd believe
[05:44] <laburd> it will update to 9.04 final automatically
[05:44] <space_cadet> Was scheduled for Apr, 25, 00:30 (Samoa time)
[05:44] <space_cadet> keeps getting delayed an hour
[05:44] <Tetracomm> I know, but I want to find someone with that who I can exchange links with.
[05:44] <wanglun> hello
[05:44] <BladeNBrocade> usser: i mean protocol wise not like demographs
[05:44] <space_cadet> now it's up to 2:00 am
[05:45] <space_cadet> the 25th
[05:45] <Anacranom>  tried to add a network printer shared on a windows box- received message- "There were no print shares found.  Please check that the Samba service is marked as trusted in your firewall configuration. To do this, select System->Administration->Firewall from the main menu." But there is no "Firewall" there, and i edited the menu and there's no option to add it, anyone know where this is?
[05:45] <wanglun> i am a new one
[05:45] <BladeNBrocade> it can very well be 30 - 50 % of that torrent traffic is for downloading pron =)
[05:45] <celthunder> Anacranom, iptables -a should i believe list your firewall rules just look at that
[05:45] <wanglun> how about all of you ?
[05:45] <lstarnes> Anacranom: in that case it might not need to be marked as tristed
[05:45] <BladeNBrocade> no
[05:45] <BladeNBrocade> its iptables -L
[05:46] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, thanks :) figured someone would correct me if i got it wrong
[05:46] <lstarnes> Anacranom: if that fails, sudo iptables -L
[05:46] <wanglun> ok i need develop oj , so i want to use QT
[05:46] <BladeNBrocade> no probem -a is to append a rule .. so that will fail
[05:46] <Anacranom> lstarnes, the error says where to change it, but it's not there?
[05:46] <BladeNBrocade> without the rest of the arguments ofcourse =)
[05:46] <David_> hello
[05:47] <David_> when is 9.04 coming out?
[05:47] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, then he will need iptables -a for the next part :) turns out im 1/4 useful :)
[05:47] <lstarnes> Anacranom: it might be a different issue, like samba or the windows box being misconfigured
[05:47] <paul68> !jaunty
[05:47] <BladeNBrocade> cool beans
[05:47] <lstarnes> David_: sometime within the next 24 hours
[05:47] <David_> lstarnes, not at midnight of a specific timezone?
[05:47] <pragad7>  i am unable to turn on the desktop effects in ubuntu intrepid ibex
[05:48] <Anacranom> lstarnes, there is no System>Administration>Firewall...
[05:48] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: which do u like better iptables vs ipfw...
[05:48] <lstarnes> Anacranom: then ignore that particular part of the message
[05:48] <BladeNBrocade> eww GUI firewall management ::earls::
[05:48] <pragad7>   i am unable to turn on the desktop effects in ubuntu intrepid ibex.plese help
[05:48] <Shaan7> pragad7: which graphics card you have ?
[05:48] <BladeNBrocade> pragad7: is ur video card capable?
[05:49] <Anacranom> lstarnes, um... so its a bug?
[05:49] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, never used ipfw...cant compare them
[05:49] <wanglun> who know QT ? and please give me some introduce thank you
[05:49] <pragad7> shaan7 it is intel945g
[05:49] <Shaan7> wanglun: please visit #qt or #kde
[05:49] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: ah cool,, i kinda like ipfw better but i dont say that @ work.. might get mobbed
[05:49] <ubuntu9> its not out yet
[05:50] <lstarnes> Anacranom: the message may have been written for a different distro or it may assume that a graphical firewall manager is installed
[05:50] <pragad7> bladenbrocade graphics card is intel945g
[05:50] <Anacranom> lstarnes, if its in the image but is incorrect...
[05:50] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, hang on let me google it and look at it maybe ill give it a chance...the only people iw ork with think im nuts cause i dont use windows
[05:50] <BladeNBrocade> pragad7: i saw
[05:50] <lstarnes> Anacranom: it's not necessarily a bug
[05:50] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, so im not likely to get mobbed more than i already am
[05:50] <Shaan7> pragad7: try installing Compiz Config Settings Manager (ccsm) from synaptic and see if you can activate desktop effects using that ...
[05:50] <SunnyDP> hey guys, had 9.04 een released ?
[05:50] <lstarnes> SunnyDP: not yet
[05:51] <legolasw> Is it possible to clone an installed ubuntu from one machine to another?
[05:51] <legolasw> for example from my desktop to my laptop?
[05:51] <AK_Dave> legolasw: yes
[05:51] <SunnyDP> lstarnes: ok thanks brother, do you know what time GMT ?
[05:51] <legolasw> Can it reconfigure itself with new hardware?
[05:51] <AK_Dave> legolasw: But you don't always want to. Especially if the hardware is different.
[05:51] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: oh its cool,, i just like the syntax alot,, its the base firewall on FreeBSD,, which i was forced to learn,, my job is all RHEL/AIX/HP-UX
[05:51] <lstarnes> SunnyDP: I don't think anyone does
[05:51] <celthunder> legolasw, yes
[05:51] <wanglun> does anybody know oj ?
[05:51] <SunnyDP> lstarnes: LOL :D
[05:52] <BladeNBrocade> wanglun: simpson?
[05:52] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, ah.  Where do you work
[05:52] <SunnyDP> BladeNBrocade: RHEL/AIX/HP-UX --> Lucky you :D
[05:52] <grendal_prime> is gutsy nolonger support of something?
[05:53] <legolasw> is there some tutorial for clonning? how to do it fast and easy...?
[05:53] <lstarnes> grendal_prime: I think its support ended this month
[05:53] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: i work for a managed service provider called IPsoft
[05:53] <wanglun> no
[05:53] <jhass840> Okay, so I have the jaunty beta installed on my system already.  If I run the update manager, does that mean I will be updated to the release candidate?
[05:53] <grendal_prime> sorrry that made no sence...is gutsy no longer supported...
[05:53] <grendal_prime> perfect.
[05:53] <grendal_prime> just what i needed right now
[05:53] <BladeNBrocade> SunnyDP: oh u think,, i dread clients using HP-UX... no bash
[05:53] <wanglun> online judge
[05:54] <wanglun> acm online judge this summer i should develop it
[05:54] <SunnyDP> BladeNBrocade: hehe :D sh, csh and ksh only?
[05:54] <BladeNBrocade> SunnyDP: yea and sh
[05:54] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, im looking at your website...big company huh?
[05:54] <lstarnes> grendal_prime: you should still be able to upgrade it to 8.04 using the old-releases.ubuntu.com repos
[05:54] <BladeNBrocade> oh u put that
[05:54] <BladeNBrocade> lol
[05:54] <Anacranom> lstarnes, ok, my desktop has the same network printer , has no issues,
[05:54] <grendal_prime> ya but i have a laptop that will not work with 804
[05:54] <Flannel> jhass840: Currently, yes.
[05:54] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: u would think... its appr 500 - 700 not that big..
[05:54] <paul68> !clone |legolasw
[05:55] <grendal_prime> and this one will..but not very well it came with 710 preinstalled on it.
[05:55] <grendal_prime> i just didnt want to have to work out any hardware kinks this month.
[05:55] <tzanger> good evening; I'm running 8.10 and I'm just wondering how I can shut down X and move toward a text-only login (temporarily, so I can update a video driver) -- I can reboot in single mode but that's a little more than I think I need
[05:55] <jhass840> Flannel: can I update to the full release like that or do I need to install that manually?
[05:56] <tzanger> there isn't an option to drop to a text mode in the options menu (sessions) at all
[05:56] <xMopx> When does 9.04 come out today?
[05:56] <grendal_prime> tzanger: man ...ok ctrl alt f2
[05:56] <BladeNBrocade> yep logging terminal...
[05:56] <grendal_prime> to get back to x its ctrl alt f7
[05:56] <rrowell> installing 8.10, I must have typed the password in wrong twice in a row because after the boot I can't login
[05:57] <BladeNBrocade> maybe u typed password in caps?
[05:57] <rrowell> i followed the instructions here : http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-reset-forgotten-root-password/
[05:57] <jhass840> xMopx: yeah, but probably not until the work day begins.  I figure cannonical wants to make sure they're in the office in case something goes wrong
[05:57] <yo> df
[05:57] <grendal_prime> rrowell: your not trying to ...ya try the caps also i hope your not using a root user..
[05:57] <rrowell> the problem is the recovery menu is buggy
[05:57] <grendal_prime> cause it has NO password.
[05:57] <xMopx> jhass840: ah that makes sense, thanks.
[05:57] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, really...says you guys do vmware...ive got a wierd issue with it care to help for a second? (workstation vmware btw..i get it free from classes (im a networking student atm though im doing an internship this summer)
[05:57] <grendal_prime> and not a blank password..but NO password
[05:57] <Geoffrey2> where are they located out of, anyway?
[05:57] <tzanger> grendal_prime: sure, I know how to do that
[05:57] <tzanger> I can get a CLI, but X is still running
[05:58] <tzanger> I tried /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:58] <grendal_prime> kill x
[05:58] <tzanger> but X is still there as is gdm-greeter
[05:58] <syntac> hi, i just removed fusion-icon/compiz and now i can no longer ctrl+alt+{left,right} to move my virtual desktop.  any idea? (i don't want compiz anymore, just normal gnome)
[05:58] <rrowell> so how do I get to a root shell without the stupid buggy recovery menu?
[05:58] <tzanger> grendal_prime: it will start back up
[05:58] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: yep we do VMware.. i more so manage ESX but.. i just graduated too =) we used vmware workstation their so i may be able to assist
[05:58] <Flannel> rrowell: that's.... a rather poor way to do it.
[05:58] <syntac> rrowell: open a normal one and run `sudo su -`
[05:58] <grendal_prime> just run your upgrade..
[05:58] <Flannel> rrowell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword  That's a much easier and better way to reset a lost password.
[05:58] <grendal_prime> restart x
[05:58] <grendal_prime> ctrl + alt + backspace
[05:59] <tzanger> grendal_prime: I'm aware of those tricks... this isn't a simple upgrade
[05:59] <tzanger> it's ATI's idiotic drivers
[05:59] <grendal_prime> edit your config whatever..
[05:59] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: internships are good... very good
[05:59] <tzanger> I need to uninstall a half dozen debs, install new ones and re-run aticonfig
[05:59] <Bill_Gates> whens ubuntu 9.04 out
[05:59] <Flannel> !party | Bill_Gates
[05:59] <tzanger> so this is why I'm trying to shut down X nicely so I can perform these tasks, and then reswtart it
[05:59] <Anacranom> !jaunty
[05:59] <grendal_prime> http://theos.in/news/ubuntu-linux-shutdown-the-x-server/
[05:59] <KingKimi> how do i install xp into virtualbox ?
[06:00] <grendal_prime> try that
[06:00] <KingKimi> i have xp sp3
[06:00] <grendal_prime> tzanger:  that was for you
[06:00] <KingKimi> the virtual box from sun
[06:00] <kebomix1> so , guys , when ubuntu 9.04 releasae , how can i share same programs and home when i install 9.04 fresh install  ?
[06:00] <HappyHobo> Jackelope is the proper spelling JACKrabbit antELOPE.  It's jackelope.
[06:00] <paul68> !jaunty
[06:00] <BladeNBrocade> KingKimi: the same u would install it on a computer.. but in the VBOX
[06:00] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, ok this issue happened randomly when i was on  an actual vista install before too using a different motherboard and different connection (cables/etc though same isp/etc) .  Ok in 6.5.1 they added directx support for games ok.  Well the games do work like i goet 140 fps in cs:s but the internet lags out like it only sends REALLY slow....though incoming seems to be fine.  No other applications other than the normal are using the internet
[06:00] <celthunder> (normal being xchat, and the broadcasts for arp etc)
[06:00] <Flannel> !cloning | kebomix1
[06:00] <AK_Dave> KingKimi: Well, you open your Virtualbox manager and click 'New'
[06:00] <tzanger> grendal_prime: yes, it's just suggesting /etc/init.d/gdm stop, which is what ai'd tried already. the frist thing I tried in fact.  :-)  I appreciate the help, but that doesn't seem to do it
[06:00] <tzanger> I'l try the runlevel next
[06:01] <grendal_prime> ya
[06:01] <KingKimi> !virtualbox > KingKimi
[06:01] <HappyHobo> Can someone see what version of AfterStep Ubuntu has currently?
[06:01] <grendal_prime> if it doesnt go into runlevel 2 it shouldnt start x
[06:01] <lstarnes> HappyHobo: aptitude show afterstep
[06:01] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, like the speed foru pload would instead of being the full 50kb would be like 5-10 and...yeah it just doesnt use networking properly.  Ive tried it with NAt invmware and bridged...different network cards...eetc
[06:01] <tzanger> yeah init 1/2 do it, but man that's a nasty way around it :-)
[06:02] <tzanger> grendal_prime: thanks for the help :-)
[06:02] <HappyHobo> I'm not using lstarnes ubuntu.  It's a deciding factor to whether or not I switch to Ubuntu.
[06:02] <tmadden> this is the ubuntu help channel correct
[06:02] <Flannel> HappyHobo: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:02] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, BUT like uploading torrents, downloading torrents uploading pictures etc all worked fine....at normal speed..just the directx apps would do that
[06:02] <Flannel> tmadden: correct
[06:02] <tmadden> can some onr please help me
[06:02] <HappyHobo> thanks Flannel
[06:02] <BassKozz> Need help, rsync problems; I keep getting "file has vanished" errors and I can't rsync from samba share to local dir... full error message: rsync warning: some files vanished before they could be transferred (code 24) at main.c(1058) [sender=3.0.3]
[06:02] <paul68> !ask |tmadden
[06:02] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: so if i understand you correctly you have a latency on the VM network which isn't apparently from the VM...ahh only DirectX in a VM??
[06:02] <Shaan7> tmadden: ask you question directly, no need to "ask to ask"
[06:03] <lstarnes> HappyHobo: in 8.04, 8.10, or 9.04?
[06:03] <AK_Dave> KingKimi: Do you have Virtualbox installed? Do you have a CD or iso for the OS you want to install? Open Virtualbox and click 'New'. It practically walks you through it. Is there a particular step that stumps you?
[06:03] <tmadden> i am running ubuntu 8.10 how do i open a text editor as root
[06:03] <kebomix1> !automate
[06:03] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, yeah only the directx applications do that...
[06:03] <AK_Dave> tmadden: sudo nano
[06:04] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, which makes me so fustrated cause i cant figure out why directx would affect latency...
[06:04] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: if thats correct,, sound / video can be variable in VMs depending on the platform and build of the system performance wise,, also,, just to confirm was the base OS linux? or was it windows on windows?
[06:04] <Shaan7> tmadden: or if you want to use gedit graphical text editor, use "sudo gedit" in the terminal, though running gui programs as root is not recommended
[06:04] <HappyHobo> thanks oh shit who was that
[06:04] <lstarnes> HappyHobo: afterstep 2.2.8-2 is in ubuntu 8.10 and 9.04.  2.2.7-2 is in 8.04
[06:04] <AK_Dave> Shaan7: Technically, 'gksu gedit' is the preferred syntax.
[06:05] <lstarnes> HappyHobo: there may be PPA's with newer versions
[06:05] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, ive tried linux base windows on top and windows on windows (Windows on windows worked SOMEWHAT like it would work for about 5-10 minutes and then do the same thing the linux ones do)
[06:05] <Shaan7> AK_Dave: oops, yeah, thanks :)
[06:05] <ProgramError1> any suggestions on running a pxe server without configuring the dhcp-server, i would like to keep my router im using
[06:05]  * Shaan7 was using kde for a long time it seems :P
[06:05] <BladeNBrocade> strange.. are u running vmtools?
[06:05] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, yes
[06:05] <HappyHobo> I'm glad to see Ubuntu still support AfterStep.
[06:06] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, and graphics card ive tried both nvidia 8600GT and ati hd4850 both were the 1gb models (ive got the ati in atm)
[06:06] <lstarnes> HappyHobo: there hasn't been a reason to remove it from the repos
[06:06] <AK_Dave> Shaan7: So would that be 'kdsu kate'?
[06:07] <KingKimi> AK_Dave, no.. i am downloading now ,..... have the xp cd
[06:07] <hannerpc> hey there is there a good techie online that can give me a hand?
[06:07] <celthunder> hannerpc, with?
[06:07] <ProgramError1> any suggestions on running a pxe server without configuring the dhcp-server, i would like to keep my router im using
[06:07] <Flannel> AK_Dave, Shaan7: kdesu kate
[06:07] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: ok.. in this case the discussion could get very verbose.. i would first review the resources being allocated to the VM's.. how much memory/cpu etc.. next u can review the actual guest OS configuration,, possibly update it and checking logs/ process tables etc etc while ur running directX,,
[06:07] <AK_Dave> hannerpc: depends
[06:07] <BassKozz> Need help, rsync problems; I keep getting "file has vanished" errors and I can't rsync from samba share to local dir... full error message: rsync warning: some files vanished before they could be transferred (code 24) at main.c(1058) [sender=3.0.3]
[06:07] <genii> ProgramError1: bootp ... if you know the MAC of the client
[06:07]  * AK_Dave dumped using kde when 4.0 came out
[06:07] <Geoffrey2> do I remember correctly that moonlight is included with jaunty?
[06:07] <He-man> Hello folks:)
[06:07] <Shaan7> AK_Dave: as Flannel said :)
[06:08] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: i believe there is a directX troubleshooting program on windows actually.. possibly running this in the VM would point u in the proper direction.. have u checked that?
[06:08] <[Snipe]> where is ubuntu 9.04, its April 23rd!
[06:08] <ProgramError1> genii, it would be changed all the time
[06:08] <AK_Dave> Shaan7: When I did use kde, I still did 'sudo nano' because I just like nano.
[06:08] <Flannel> !party | [Snipe]
[06:08] <He-man> How do I register my nickname.  I tried /msg NickServe Register, and then I typed a name.
[06:08] <ProgramError1> im trying to do this instead of burning live cd's all the time
[06:08] <Flannel> He-man: nickserv, not nickserve
[06:08] <lstarnes> He-man: NickServ, without the E at the end
[06:08] <ProgramError1> and other installs that are commonly used
[06:08] <He-man> Flannel: Ah, thanks:)
[06:09] <He-man> Istarnes:  Thanks:)
[06:09] <Shaan7> AK_Dave: yeah, just told him because he might be looking a way to use gedit, and by the way, nano is my fav too !
[06:09] <BladeNBrocade> being that vmware workstation on virtualizes the hardware its hard to tell what was detected and what is being used.. for instance.. in your vid card settings,, do u actually see the nvidia or ati card being used,, or do u see some generic device?
[06:09] <hannerpc> trying to get the Nvidia driver to work on a new install of Ubuntu - did updates, downloaded and activated driver, on reboot the display comes up as a fraction of line on the top of the monitor. Ran the (recovery?) option and back to where it is visable, but can't get the driver to activate and work - Oh using 17' LCD monitor.
[06:09] <[Snipe]> thanks
[06:09] <genii> ProgramError1: You can plug a router in and use it's MAC for the bootp. Whatever clients are on it just get nat'd
[06:10] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, 3gb of ram assigned to the vm (8gb in the system atm total i could put in 12 if needed (i dont have enough 4gb sitcks to get to 16)) directx is working...unless there is some sort of networking thing in directx im not aware of...thought that was just graphics i see only a generic device though i do make sure the "accelerate graphics" option is checked...should i maybe use the onboard for the host system and give the video card really to
[06:10] <celthunder>  ONLY the guest....
[06:10] <Rusty_A1> !outyet
[06:10] <ProgramError1> genii, ok but wouldnt it always point to the router then instead of the computer that is serving the files?
[06:10] <celthunder> hannerpc, which card?
[06:10] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: possibly i was mistaken,, are these online games or just locally installed copies?
[06:10] <He-man> Flannel: What does this mean? "NOTICE NickServ: Insufficient parameters for REGISTER"?
[06:10] <lstarnes> He-man: you are not using the command correctly
[06:10] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, downloaded on the pc but you play on online servers
[06:11] <lstarnes> He-man: see "/msg nickserv help register" and http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[06:11] <celthunder> He-man, you didnt provide enough arguments...its /nickserv register "pass" "email"
[06:11] <lstarnes> He-man: also, #freenode is better for questions related to irc or freenode
[06:11] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: correct this is what i suspected.. in that case yes directX/networking have become dependant on each other..give me a second let me check something for you
[06:11] <ProgramError1> genii, ok but wouldnt it always point to the router then instead of the computer that is serving the files?
[06:11] <He-man> Istarnes:  Okay.  I'll have a look.
[06:12] <genii> ProgramError1: I haven't tried it through a router yet, but in principle it should work.
[06:12] <ProgramError1> genii, ok thanks
[06:12] <He-man> celthunder: Which email?  I don't think I have specified an email previously.
[06:12] <ProgramError1> ill try to figure this out then
[06:12] <hannerpc> celthunder not sure of chip version, its onboard, is there an equivilent to device manager or msinfo I can access?
[06:12] <AJNpa28> anybody know what command you use to load Ubuntu from a bash shell???
[06:12] <celthunder> hannerpc, lspci
[06:12] <ProgramError1> any recommendations on a tutorial?
[06:12] <lstarnes> He-man: use your own email address
[06:13] <lstarnes> He-man: it will be needed for a verification code and future password resets
[06:13] <celthunder> AJNpa28, if you are at a bash shell you are already IN an os...you cant load an os from an os without virtualization of some kind
[06:13] <He-man> Istarnes:  I see.  Cheers mate.
[06:13] <AJNpa28> ok
[06:13] <genii> ProgramError1: http://www.rhyshaden.com/dhcp.htm indicates it can work across routers
[06:13] <KingKimi> space_cadet, HI !
[06:13] <ProgramError1> thanks again
[06:13] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: what about the thing i asked about the actual ati or nvidia being used in vmware or when u go to ur installed hardware ur using a generic SVGA driver or VMwares.. have you checked that is not the case?
[06:14] <BladeNBrocade> s/or/of/
[06:14] <Amaeth> Hello
[06:14] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, it is using the generic driver.  the hardware is still emulated so thats ok though isnt it?
[06:14] <prodigy> so when is the new release coming out?
[06:14] <Amaeth> is true that in some servers the 910 is now downloadable?
[06:14] <celthunder> prodigy today
[06:15] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: not neccessarily..
[06:15] <KingKimi> space_cadet, :( ?
[06:15] <AnnonyMouse1> any idea what time Jaunty's coming out? I need to start downloading ISO's for tomorrows release party
[06:15] <prodigy> will there be xubuntu too? im more interested in that actually
[06:15] <hannerpc> celthunder - I appologize in advance, I am horribly new to linux/unix based shell is this where I should be?
[06:15] <hannerpc> root@mojo-desktop:/home/mojo# |spci
[06:15] <hannerpc> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `|'
[06:15] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: 64 or 32 bit system?
[06:15] <KingKimi> !isitout | AnnonyMouse1
[06:15] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, so you are saying networking and graphics became linked somehow?
[06:15] <celthunder> hannerpc, its an l not a |
[06:15] <prodigy> celthunder: thanks....today as in like right now cuz its already today :)
[06:15] <sata> hannerpc, its l
[06:15] <hannerpc> :$
[06:15] <lstarnes> prodigy: sometime today
[06:16] <Bill_Gates> not out yet
[06:16] <AJNpa28> i am having a problem with b43 broadcom firmware i know how to fix it, but everything reverts after reboot, wont write to disk, figured id like to enter gui from prompt without reboot
[06:16] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, 64 bit host 32 bit guest (8300 doesnt support 64 bit guest though if i need to i guess i can grab a q6600 and use a 64 bit guest....)
[06:16] <Amaeth> but in some #ubuntu channel they are people telling us that is downloading the 910 (not the rc)
[06:16] <He-man> Is there a specific room for querying OpenOffice.org?
[06:16] <celthunder> He-man, #openoffice.org
[06:17] <He-man> celthunder: Thanks:)
[06:17] <He-man> #openoffice.org
[06:17] <He-man> Oops
[06:17] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: yes in the world of whicever online game ur playing that is dependant on networking,, yes,, if ur are receiving a stream to display on ur local VM from the net.. then yes if there is a bottleneck in directX painting ur screen.. it can appear to be a networking issue.. similar to how many people on windows XP with 512MB and 1000 startup apps say the internet is slow
[06:17] <prodigy> so, just ubuntu today? or also kubuntu, xubuntu and eduubuntu?
[06:17] <He-man> lol, thats better:)
[06:18] <hannerpc> celthunder:  nVidia Corporation C51G [GeForce 6100] (rev a2)
[06:18] <AJNpa28> now this is a wubi install i dont know if thats why it wont write
[06:18] <celthunder> hannerpc, then dont use the latest nvidia driver go back one or two..the latest stops support atl ike 8000 or 7000 series i think
[06:18] <KingKimi> hp1020 is not prinintg. but its printing in xp./ help me :( all correctly plugged...... it shows in print dialog box .... but simpley stands..... it cannt print
[06:18] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, ok ill try setting the graphics driver to a non generic one...thank you for your time.
[06:19] <toyo|desk> dose anyone know what time tomorrow 9.04 will be out?
[06:19] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: whats the cpu utilization while ur playing the game?
[06:19] <tgr> when i start ubuntu the lcd contrast is turned all the way down how do i change that so it is brighter?
[06:19] <thirdwheel_> toyo|desk, ask in #ubuntu-release-party
[06:19] <paul68> !party|toyo|desk
[06:19] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, like 40 percent...avg per core being like 20
[06:19] <toyo|desk> thanks paul68
[06:20] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, but i can only assign 2 cores to the vm not all 4 so thats not an accurate ....either way its not the cpu/ram its running out of
[06:20] <chris062689> Could anyone help me package up a DEB file?
[06:20] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: just wondering.. trying to cancel things out
[06:21] <Kiran_ur_frnd4u> hi
[06:21] <Rusty_A1> there's a guide to DEB packaging in the Ubuntu wiki.
[06:21] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: in ur setting in VMware have u enabled hardware acceleration?
[06:21] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, ok it says vga ii 128mb of ram for the video device.. where do i increase that
[06:22] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, yes i enabled hardware acceleration
[06:22] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: that may be an issue as well
[06:22] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: in ur windows setting is hardware acceleration enabled?
[06:23] <SunnyDP> hey guys, i have TOTALLY lost my Trash icon, and i cannot put it back on the panel , even using the "Add to panel" option, any hints ?
[06:23] <AJNpa28> anyone know why everything i do at the prompt in a wubi install is lost after reboot? everything i do seems kosher before i reboot, things are where i move them packages are installed etc then reboot and bang whoosh deja vu, same as the day it was born.
[06:23] <chris062689> SunnyDP: You get an error message?
[06:24] <sejt1> hi
[06:24] <chris062689> AJNpa28: is your HDD mounted read-only?
[06:24] <SunnyDP> chris062689: nothing, just cant add the trash icon to the panel
[06:24] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: try this.. update the guest OS.. windows updates.. snapshot the VM just in case.. poweroff..disable hardware accel in the VM settings.. and boot up and run a direct X app with the windows process manager or the sysinternals process explorer running.. monitor which processes cause a spike
[06:25] <ZhouYu> what is the best code editing tool in ubuntu ? eclipse ? i want to code in php... in windows i am using e-texteditor
[06:25] <Aggrav8d> hello, everybody!  can I pm some stupid questions about adduser/usermod to someone for 10 minutes?  I need some 1:1 tutoring because I'm a moron who can't seem to google instructions.
[06:25] <SunnyDP> ZhouYu: jedit
[06:25] <Gnea> !trash | SunnyDP
[06:25] <chris062689> ZhouYu: gedit's a good one for GNOME.
[06:25] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, ok ill do that hold on
[06:25] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: k
[06:25] <sejt1> when i use gksu nautikus   and move something to trash... the files are disapeard , but no free space!
[06:25] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: still googling... i would just call that a best practice for now..
[06:26] <Whitebelt> Thanks for your help people:)
[06:26] <ZhouYu> SunnyDP & chris062689 : ok thx... i'll try both of them :)
[06:26] <AJNpa28> dont know, how can i check. the only way i can add things to the tree is in the folders i can see in winows like custom install, and shared, other than that nothing will stick how would i check and change?
[06:26] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: in ur BASE System.. do u have the CPU virtualization option available and enabled in BIOS?
[06:26] <Gnea> sejt1: who's trash? regular user's or root's?
[06:26] <Trijntje> Hi all, how hard is it to use a different file manager in gnome? Cause nautilus is causing long login delay
[06:27] <RedMercury> use xterm
[06:27] <RedMercury> :)
[06:27] <BladeNBrocade> lol
[06:27] <BladeNBrocade> midnight commander hehe
[06:27] <RedMercury> xterm and mc
[06:27] <SunnyDP> Gnea: regular,  and all i want is to have it back in my panel, but it seems impossible
[06:27] <sejt1> trash for root      Gnea
[06:27] <RedMercury> heh
[06:27] <BladeNBrocade> lol
[06:27] <BladeNBrocade> RedMercury: so ur old school huh? =)
[06:27] <Gnea> SunnyDP: what's regular?
[06:27] <SunnyDP> Gnea: regular user trash
[06:28] <Gnea> sejt1: why would you bother with root's trash?
[06:28] <Gnea> SunnyDP: did you check to see if either of those directories exist?
[06:28] <SunnyDP> Gnea: they do, and when i "Add to panel" it does not add it
[06:28] <sejt1> Gnea because my external hard drive reached only this vay
[06:29]  * BladeNBrocade fires up vuze
[06:29] <Gnea> sejt1: are you a part of the disk group?
[06:29] <lenyel_> has anyone tried using xmonad with ubuntu 9.04 rc and had problems launching terminals?
[06:30] <Flannel> lenyel_: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks.
[06:30] <sejt1> Gnea     where can i chek it please thnakyou
[06:30] <lenyel_> ok will try thanks
[06:30] <Gnea> sejt1: open a terminal and type: id
[06:31] <mrb__> Hello everybody..... anybody have any idea when the 9.04 ganna be online..
[06:31] <Flannel> mrb__: #ubuntu-release-party, thanks
[06:31] <c0l2e> how can I replace a certain text/string in a file using grep or sed??
[06:31] <HiveDrone> anyone know why xorg fails to start after activating the restricted ATI drivers? (Its some days ago I tried last, I should add)
[06:32] <sejt1> Gnea    ok       and?
[06:32] <sejt1> copy paste here?
[06:32] <mrb__> flannel, thanks
[06:32] <Gnea> sejt1: it should all be one line, so go ahead and paste that one line, please
[06:33] <Gnea> sejt1: if it's more than one line, then use pastebin
[06:33] <sejt1> jt1@hydra:~$ id
[06:33] <sejt1> uid=1000(sejt1) gid=1000(sejt1) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),108(lpadmin),123(admin),124(sambashare),1000(sejt1)
[06:34] <ela_> aiiight
[06:34] <munwin> :-)
[06:35] <BladeNBrocade> ;>
[06:37] <AJNpa28> if hard drive is mounted read only what command would i use from terminal to change it to write
[06:37] <Gnea> sejt1: alright, you're going to need to give yourself access to the disk group - System->Administration->Users & Groups, select yourself and modify your groups/properties
[06:37] <sejt1> ok  checkolom
[06:37] <Gnea> AJNpa28: sudo mount -n -o remount,rw /media/disk
[06:38] <sejt1> koszi/thank jou
[06:38] <ela_> does someone mind if i ask them noob ubuntu linux questions?
[06:38] <BladeNBrocade> ela_: no
[06:38] <Gnea> only if you ask to ask it :)
[06:38] <ela_> aiiight cool
[06:39] <Gnea> (btw this is irc, not the street :p )
[06:39] <Gnea> !ask
[06:39] <ela_> i just wanted to know if i had to type in the terminal to execute a bin file EVERY time i wanted to use the file
[06:39] <Gnea> nah
[06:40] <ela_> or is there some way to link it to something
[06:40] <Gnea> you could set the proper executable permissions, move it to the Desktop/ and double-click it everytime
[06:40] <profx> anyone good with DHCP in a Windows environment?
[06:40] <Gnea> like this:  chmod 700 file.bin && mv file.bin ~/Desktop
[06:40] <ubuntistas> when ubuntu it's gone be uploaded in the mirrors?
[06:40] <Gnea> profx: probably the people in #windows or #windows-server
[06:41] <Detonated> ela_, right click on ubuntu desktop and choose Create Launcher
[06:41] <BladeNBrocade> did someone saw dhcpd?
[06:41] <BladeNBrocade> s/saw/say/
[06:41] <Gnea> Detonated: he was asking about how to do it in the terminal
[06:41] <profx> Gnea, im asking in here
[06:41] <ela_> thanks guys
[06:41] <Gnea> !ot | profx
[06:41] <zippyfish> did the new relase came out yet..
[06:41] <BladeNBrocade> s/came/come/
[06:41] <Gnea> zippyfish: nope, check #ubuntu-release-party
[06:41] <profx> Gnea, dont get on my bad side, you wont like it
[06:42] <AJNpa28> cool if i can get this b43 fw to stick im gonna ditch windows alltogether, only machine i havent gotten linux to run on, my little laptop, ive set several people up, and my averatec turd refuses to boot without b43 firmware, and i havent been able to get it to stick. if this works i'll freak its been 2 months on and off
[06:42] <sejt1>  i didnt find     uhhhhh
[06:42] <Gnea> profx: pardon?
[06:42] <zippyfish> thx
[06:42] <Guest7389> hi.. how do i reset compiz and / or uninstall it completely from commandline?
[06:42] <Gnea> profx: don't start none, won't be none
[06:42] <BladeNBrocade> apt-get --purge remove compiz*
[06:42] <BladeNBrocade> sudo
[06:42] <profx> !ot | Gnea
[06:43] <bazhang> profx, stop that
[06:43] <profx> stop what bazhang?
[06:43] <Gnea> profx: right, so if you need help with Windows DHCP Server, ask in #windows or #windows-server
[06:43] <profx> typing messages into a channel?
[06:43] <profx> Gnea, repeating is both annoying an not useful
[06:43] <Jdban> I have a quick question I figured someone might know the answer to: how soon will 9.04 be released? (soon as in how many hours)
[06:43] <owen1> is there a site showing the packages and the versions of all the packages ubuntu 9.04 comes with?
[06:43] <BladeNBrocade> come on guys.. smile
[06:43] <BladeNBrocade> =)
[06:43] <Gnea> profx: you're not going to get any help by acting like this
[06:44] <profx> Gnea, maybe you just need to ignore any further comments from me, to save us both some time
[06:44] <rosepetal> hi.. how do i reset compiz and / or uninstall it completely from commandline? i accidentally set the opacity to 100% and now nothing shows
[06:44] <Gnea> profx: no problem there, if you'd stop making them and maybe say something more useful.
[06:44] <profx> and I will be more than happy to do the same, in return
[06:44] <vart> !outyet | Jdban
[06:44] <BladeNBrocade> rosepetal: apt-get --purge remove compiz*
[06:44] <Jdban> thank you ubottu
[06:45] <rosepetal> BladeNBrocade: will it remove all the effects as well?
[06:45] <Detonated> Jdban, http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/
[06:45] <BladeNBrocade> rosepetal: yes
[06:45] <profx> Gnea, saying something 'useful' in your eyes, isnt my purpose of being here, so just continue to do what you were doing before I dropped in
[06:45] <Kemeros> ubottu thx that was my question
[06:45] <dfs> how to import firefox addons from user account a to user acount b
[06:45] <Gnea> profx: just drop the attitude already.
[06:45] <fore> can someone tell me why, since i upgraded to 9.04 the flash player in my website doesnt display anymore?
[06:45] <fore> do i need to reinstall flash ?
[06:45] <profx> Gnea, stop posting messages to be, and it will 'drop'
[06:46] <profx> me*
[06:46] <g4lt-lappy> fore #ubuntu+1 can
[06:46] <sejt1> Gnea when i use   gksu nautilus i have rigts     but whn i erase filesin the trash  it cant work
[06:46] <maximo> !jaunty Jackalope
[06:46] <Gnea> profx: we can take this private, if you prefer.
[06:46] <dfs> how to import firefox addons from one suer account to another
[06:47] <profx> Gnea, take what to private exactly?
[06:47] <dfs> how to import firefox addons from one user account to another
[06:47] <BladeNBrocade> dfs maybe copying the .firefox file?
[06:47] <BladeNBrocade> directory rather
[06:47] <ela_> does anyone know how to add mp3's to an ipod, or what proper app to use?
[06:47] <dfs> how really new to commandlinepls give me the command
[06:47] <rosepetal> BladeNBroCade: did i mention i am unable to see anything on screen. i wont be able to see any of the prompts etc that come before the uninstall :S
[06:47] <profx> Gnea i insist you do not continue to annoy me
[06:47] <Gnea> !ipod | ela_
[06:47] <BladeNBrocade> !ipod | ela_
[06:48] <BladeNBrocade> argh
[06:48] <AJNpa28> phew ubottu farted
[06:48] <trippin> hi i was wondering if some one in here could tell me what i can do to fix my menu.lst file, i just upgraded to 9.04 and i'm still using uname -r
[06:48] <trippin> 2.6.27-11-generic
[06:48] <BladeNBrocade> lol
[06:48] <svensko> what's the ETA on 9.04?
[06:48] <Gnea> profx: or?
[06:48] <chris062689> How come http://releases.ubuntu.com/ is redirecting to http://noncdn-releases.ubuntu.com/?
[06:48] <Gnea> ela_: see what ubottu told you
[06:48] <BladeNBrocade> its probably intended
[06:49] <paul68> in the home folder there are a lot of user definition folders like ./firefox or ./eclipse is my assumption correct when I do a fresh install of jaunty and replace the new user profile folders with the exsisting ones it will work like its working now or am I wrong?
[06:49] <ela_> ok
[06:49] <dfs> bladenbrocade please give methe command how to do it
[06:49] <BladeNBrocade> cp -r
[06:49] <g4lt-lappy> paul68, to some extent.  the directories aren't all-inclusive
[06:50] <BladeNBrocade> u may want to mv the existing .firefox file to .firefox.bak just incase
[06:50] <g4lt-lappy> and of course, there's no guarantees about version specific rc files
[06:50] <vart> tripping: use #ubuntu+1 channel
[06:50]  * BladeNBrocade shivers
[06:51] <paul68> g4lt-lappy: its just for the thunderbird settings keep my mails and stuff
[06:51] <g4lt-lappy> paul68, again, it should work, but there's too many variables to say it will
[06:51] <paul68> g4lt-lappy: ok thanks
[06:52] <BladeNBrocade> thats not going to work paul68 because those . file come as u install those apps.. u would need to build a exact replica of ur packages to even try that
[06:52] <maximo> where do I go to enable tab-completion?
[06:53] <BladeNBrocade> example i dont believe .eclips is a default package.. therefore the .eclipse folder would be useless,, and even when u installed eclipse i believe it would just write its own
[06:53] <paul68> BladeNBrocade: its just for thunderbird that I want to do this to make sure that I don't have to rebuild my folder structure and rules that I have set
[06:53] <BladeNBrocade> paul68: that may work..
[06:54] <paul68> BladeNBrocade: ok thanks
[06:54] <eugen_> hey I'm trying to start dansguardian, but I get this error: "
[06:54] <Guest4741> " * Starting DansGuardian dansguardianError connecting to parent proxy
[06:54] <Guest4741> "
[06:54] <Guest4741> what does that mean?
[06:54] <paul68> BladeNBrocade: is there a way to export rules from thunderbird?
[06:54] <JauntyFreak> release party channel?
[06:55] <trippin_>  hi i was wondering if some one in here could tell me what i can do to fix my menu.lst file, i just upgraded to 9.04 and i'm still using 2.6.27-11-generic rather then 2.6.28-11
[06:55] <g4lt-lappy> trithere's a specific channel for jaunty: #ubuntu+1.  use it
[06:55] <BladeNBrocade> paul68: good question,, i would check the menu,,there is a defined import submenu.. possible there u would see.. it sounds like something do able.. i would imagine that would be the GUI port to doing exactly what u are trying to do manually..
[06:55] <ubuntistas> when ubuntu it's gone be uploaded in the mirrors?
[06:55] <maximo> rather wait a couple of days to upgrade
[06:56] <g4lt-lappy> trippin, ^^^^^
[06:56] <JauntyFreak> whats the release partys channel link please
[06:56] <bazhang> !party
[06:56] <paul68> BladeNBrocade: ok thanks
[06:57] <maximo> where do I go to enable tab-completion?
[06:58] <g4lt-lappy> maximo, in what?
[06:59] <KingKimi> does anyone one about WIN4LIN ????? is it the same as of virtual box or different ???? or is it like wine ? or virtualbox ? or what ?
[06:59] <maximo> g4lt-lappy: mine is not enabled to like doing nick's completion or else....
[06:59] <blap> can someone please explain to me how I can install FiSH plugin for irssi!?
[07:00] <g4lt-lappy> maximo, again in what?  theere are about a dozen differen IRC clients
[07:01] <sejt1> error message   Gnea     Sorry, could not display all the contents of "trash": Operation not supported
[07:01] <maximo> g4lt-lappy: konversation
[07:01] <BladeNBrocade> paul68: looks like thunderbird has an extension for this as well
[07:01] <sejt1> after gksu
[07:01] <wolter> is there an irc client for linux as fancy as colloquy?
[07:01] <g4lt-lappy> maximo, hyou would choose the one I don't have any idea about.  sorry :(
[07:01] <Gnea> sejt1: did you get added to the disk group?
[07:02] <sejt1> no because i dont find
[07:02] <KingKimi> i am now installing xp into vbox.... but my mouse cannot get out of vbox ose ,,. though i clicked ctrl a 100 times :( ///// only window i am active is xchat (luckily) ... plz help me to get my mouse pointer
[07:02] <maximo> g4lt-lappy: will go type : --> g4lt {tab} no working
[07:03] <marktheflyingspa> anyone know if the new ubuntu jaubty is relaesed as a non beta today ?
[07:03] <KingKimi> !isitout
[07:03] <wolter> marktheflyingspa, tomorrow i guess
[07:03] <marktheflyingspa> opps jaunty
[07:03] <wolter> last time i saw it was 1 day remaining
[07:03] <madrazr> Amaranth: or any other admin, may be you need to set the topic this time too, "Jaunty is released, when it is released. Don't Ask". Like it was done for Intrepid :D
[07:03] <madrazr> LoL!
[07:04] <marktheflyingspa> thanks mate ... we get the days first in australia *S*
[07:04] <Gnea> sejt1: okay, this is what you need to do then:  sudo vigr   then look for a line like this one:  disk:x:6:  then add your username to the end of it, like this:  disk:x:6:sejt1  then save/exit, logout, login again and you shouldn't need to be root to read/write the disk
[07:04] <shantzu> any idea when 9.04 is going to come out? =)
[07:04] <Gnea> !jaunty | shantzu
[07:04] <KingKimi> can anyone help me to get my mouse outta vbox ose ???? i clicked control key 1000 times and it is not getting out :(
[07:05] <marktheflyingspa> THX for the info
[07:05] <BladeNBrocade> CTRL + SHIFT or some fuction like that usually release the mouse from vmachines KingKimi
[07:06]  * BladeNBrocade whispers "on laggy java remote consoles too"
[07:07] <tenzind> hi .. does ubuntu support upgrades from one release to another (without having to reinstall), like Debian does?
[07:07] <Flannel> tenzind: Of course
[07:07] <BladeNBrocade> tenzind: yes,, u can also turn debian to ubuntu
[07:08] <BladeNBrocade> tenzind: even though that has nothing to do with what u asked i thought it was relevant =)
[07:09] <reefer> Anyone here to help me with my wireless issue
[07:09] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  In gnome-do, when I'm indexing too many files, how do I make the error message stay visible for long enough time to read it?
[07:09] <tenzind> Flannel, and ubuntu also has the "unstable, testing, stable" releases?
[07:09] <Flannel> tenzind: No.
[07:10] <reefer> I am having a problem with weak wireless signal when i am like 10 feet from the router
[07:10] <dlozarie> good day, guys. I was just wondering if I could upgrade to 9.04 using the live cd, or if that only did installs?
[07:10] <enterneo> enterneo: I have a proxy server, which is listening on an arbitrary port, now I want to simulate the working of that proxy server, how do i send some dummy data on that port for a destined ip and then route back to the original sender, with the proxy working both ways, I will have the console echo the working in my proxy server implementation
[07:10] <BladeNBrocade> !wireless | reefer
[07:10] <mib_0da4stqv> hi all, ubuntu9.04 was supposed to be released today, did it ??
[07:10] <g4lt-lappy> mib_0da4stqv, /topic
[07:10] <karbo> is it out yet?!
[07:11] <g4lt-lappy> DIAF
[07:11] <BladeNBrocade> lol
[07:11] <tenzind> Flannel, so if i am no a stable ubuntu right now, can i not then shift into something like the debian testing, so that when that testing becomes stable, i would already have "stable" ?
[07:11] <Flannel> !conduct | g4lt-lappy
[07:11] <mib_0da4stqv> @karbo, the scheduled date is 23rd, right?
[07:11] <g4lt-lappy> Flannel, i literally just answered it
[07:11] <tenzind> on*
[07:12] <Flannel> tenzind: Erm, what?  You're right now using the release candidate or beta of 9.04, and you're wondering about how you move to stable 9.04?
[07:12] <Flannel> g4lt-lappy: Indeed.  That doesn't mean you can be rude.
[07:12] <mib_0da4stqv> all are sleeping
[07:12] <g4lt-lappy> Flannel, since I was completely ignored, it really can't be rude, now can it?
[07:12] <tenzind> Flannel, on 8.10
[07:12] <g4lt-lappy> its only rude if they listen in the first palce
[07:12] <BladeNBrocade> is there a way to make compiz work on 2 monitors?
[07:13] <BladeNBrocade> in xinerama mode
[07:13] <Flannel> g4lt-lappy: Again, please don't be rude to anyone.  Whether you think they're listening to you or not.
[07:13] <Lord_Devi> g4lt-lappy: i'm a witness who thinks you were rude.. does that count?
[07:13] <mib_0da4stqv> @g4lt ....lol
[07:13] <dlozarie> uhm looks like one can request a 9.04 live cd on the website now
[07:13] <g4lt-lappy> BladeNBrocade, nothing's easy on dual monitors
[07:13] <TheBeast> 9.04 will be released today?
[07:13] <BladeNBrocade> g4lt-lappy: didn't ask for easy just is there a way..
[07:13] <mib_0da4stqv> @Lord/Flannel,,,ppl like you guys should never come to this forum,,,,,
[07:14] <Lord_Devi> mib_0da4stqv: lol, didn't say I wasn't rude myself... i just recognize it. =)
[07:14] <Lord_Devi> I'm from EFnet, I'm pretty hard to offend.
[07:14] <Flannel> tenzind: Once 9.04 is released, you can upgrade from 8.10 to it, using update manager.  You'll get a prompt to upgrade if you're using the GUI.
[07:14] <g4lt-lappy> Lord_Devi, given you prolly didn't listen the first time either, no
[07:14] <Guest4741> hey what web filtering software is reccommended?
[07:14] <BladeNBrocade> g4lt-lappy: actually compiz works without xinerama enabled.. however in that mode.. it completely doesn't load
[07:14] <dlozarie> well I believe it *was* scheduled for release today. Maybe later on in the day?
[07:14] <Flannel> Guest4741: Try dansguardian
[07:14] <mib_0da4stqv> guys wasting ur and others time
[07:14] <tenzind> Flannel, ok .. thanks
[07:14] <dlozarie> Flannel: if my internet connection conks out at any time during the update process, what happens?
[07:14] <KingKimi> \join #vboz
[07:14] <Flannel> !party | dlozarie, TheBeast
[07:15] <KingKimi> \join #vbox
[07:15] <Flannel> !upgrade | tenzind
[07:15] <Lord_Devi> dlozarie: It will resume the download when you start it up again later.
[07:15] <mib_0da4stqv> dont do that@Lord
[07:15] <Flannel> dlozarie: It downloads all the packages, and then installs them.  So, if its at the download stage nothing, you just restart.  If its installing... well, then it's not downloading anymore.
[07:15] <mib_0da4stqv> @dlozaire,,,,yep i think so
[07:15] <Lord_Devi> mib_0da4stqv: Do what?
[07:15] <BladeNBrocade> id rather xinerama because it defeats the purpose of my two monitors if i can't use one as primary and the other as secondary.. just having two seperate copies of X running isn't working..so i left wobbly windows for functionality..
[07:15] <mib_0da4stqv> ok guys keep kicking each other,,,m moving
[07:15] <dlozarie> Lord_Devi: oh, cool. whew. thanks guys.
[07:15] <mib_0da4stqv> bye
[07:16] <dlozarie> Flannel: oh, cool. whew. thanks guys.
[07:16] <BladeNBrocade> now.. id like my wobbly windows back
[07:16] <luddite> oh i logged on to find out why 9.04 wasnt released today and im told not to ask by the welcome text :-)
[07:16] <dlozarie> will pre-order a few CDs though, to give out to my friends.
[07:16] <Flannel> luddite: #ubuntu-release-party
[07:16] <luddite> flannel - thanks :-)
[07:17] <Lord_Devi> luddite: #ubuntu+1 might be less strict about it
[07:17] <konsolenrocker_> can anyone suggest me a pricy unix workstation?
[07:17] <jonrafkind> is anyone using the xorg-ati driver? I get 300fps with it in glxgears, which seems rather low
[07:17] <Lord_Devi> konsolenrocker: Whisper stations by Microway
[07:17] <konsolenrocker_> i try
[07:17] <Flannel> konsolenrocker_: Try #ubuntu-offtopic or #hardware, this isn't a proper channel for that.  Thanks.
[07:17] <konsolenrocker_> ok
[07:18] <BladeNBrocade> aix?
[07:19] <reefer> If anyone can help me with my wireless issue please pm me
[07:19] <Geoffrey2> there's a command I can type in that will show a list of folders along with the total amount of space each is taking up...but I can't remember the name of the command...
[07:19] <Flannel> Geoffrey2: du
[07:19] <BladeNBrocade> du
[07:19] <jonaskoelker> Geoffrey2: du
[07:19] <Geoffrey2> ah, thanks :)
[07:19] <BladeNBrocade> lol
[07:19] <linuxguymarshall> I am trying to get my battery working on my Lenovo S10. Ubuntu 9.04. Same issue as described here : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1035411.html            I have asked many places, waited for long times and no one seems willing to help. Anyone have any solutions they want me to try?
[07:19] <BladeNBrocade> actually... thats not it
[07:20] <Gnea> Geoffrey2: du -h
[07:20] <BladeNBrocade> du -skh * should be what ur looking for
[07:20] <rascallinux> release party room please
[07:20] <Gnea> BladeNBrocade: not -s
[07:20] <BladeNBrocade> why not s?
[07:20] <Gnea> rascallinux: #ubuntu-release-party
[07:20] <Lord_Devi> Geoffrey2:  du -cks * |sort -rn |head -11
[07:20] <Gnea> BladeNBrocade: he wants the size of all of the folders, not just the whole size of everything in the CWD
[07:21] <BladeNBrocade> rainofkayos@rain:~$ du -skh *
[07:21] <BladeNBrocade> 4.0K	AdobeReader.desktop
[07:21] <BladeNBrocade> 4.0K	Azureus Downloads
[07:21] <BladeNBrocade> 14M	Desktop
[07:21] <BladeNBrocade> 7.1G	Documents
[07:21] <FloodBot2> BladeNBrocade: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:21] <WindowSmasher> Hi all
[07:21] <Lord_Devi> Geoffrey2: That'll sort the list in order of greatest to least space offenders..
[07:21] <BladeNBrocade> srry
[07:21] <WindowSmasher> What are the pros and cons of 64 bit ubuntu 8.10?
[07:21] <WindowSmasher> Are there still installation issues with flash etc?
[07:21] <BladeNBrocade> oh i see what u mean
[07:21] <Gnea> WindowSmasher: pro: it's fast. con: what?
[07:22] <Lord_Devi> WindowSmasher: No, haven't been any flash issues for a long time with 64 bit ubuntu.
[07:22] <Gnea> WindowSmasher: nope, it's been fixed
[07:22] <WindowSmasher> Any issues running wine?
[07:22] <Lord_Devi> WindowSmasher: No cons I can think of to be honest.
[07:22] <Gnea> it runs
[07:22] <wtv> when does jaunty release?
[07:22] <paul68> how to become an registered ubuntu user
[07:22] <Gnea> !jaunty | wtv
[07:22] <celthunder> WindowSmasher, thers con's to 64 bit? ive used wine and it worked fine
[07:22] <paul68> !jaunty
[07:22] <Lord_Devi> WindowSmasher: Nope. I play CoV/WoW/Eve... quite a few games with wine these days
[07:22] <Lord_Devi> w/ 64bit
[07:22] <WindowSmasher> Thanks all!
[07:22] <WindowSmasher> I'll bbl
[07:22] <Lord_Devi> yw
[07:23] <WindowSmasher> Tired of Vista. Came preloaded on this new desktop. I'm very unhappy with it
[07:23] <wtv> celthunder: i know but its 23rd april today and its not released
[07:23] <linuxguymarshall> Anyone at all?
[07:23] <Gnea> WindowSmasher: basically, the cons have been dramatically reduced in the past couple of years :)
[07:23]  * BladeNBrocade shivers @ sound of vista
[07:23] <WindowSmasher> Sold.
[07:23] <Lord_Devi> WindowSmasher: I love how they just force that on ya. Wish lots of extra mcafee stuff too..
[07:23] <Lord_Devi> yay
[07:23] <Lord_Devi> :%s/Wish/With
[07:23] <linuxguymarshall> I am trying to get my battery working on my Lenovo S10. Ubuntu 9.04. Same issue as described here : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1035411.html            I have asked many places, waited for long times and no one seems willing to help. Anyone have any solutions they want me to try?
[07:23] <BladeNBrocade> heh mcaffe is poopy
[07:24] <Gnea> WindowSmasher: give it a couple days and there will be plenty of seeds for the new iso's via bittorrent :)
[07:24] <Gnea> linuxguymarshall: only place that can help you with it right now would be in #ubuntu+1
[07:24] <paul68> doesn anyone know how to become an registered ubuntu user
[07:25] <Gnea> paul68: registered, in what way?
[07:25] <linuxguymarshall> Gnea:Thank you so much
[07:25] <celthunder> wtv ? i didnt say anything?
[07:25] <paul68> Gnea: like you see in the forums that someone became a registered ubuntu user with a number besides it
[07:26] <wtv> celthunder: sorry i meant Gnea
[07:26] <Lord_Devi> paul68: Cononical has a few different membership levels available. They are described on the webpage.. I'm afraid I don't know too much about them though.
[07:26] <Lord_Devi> One of them includes an SLA though.. that's pretty awesome.
[07:26] <BladeNBrocade> Lord_Devi: thats pretty cool
[07:26] <paul68> Lord_Devi: ok thanks
[07:26]  * Lord_Devi smiles at paul
[07:26] <neil_d> Lord_Devi: SLA?
[07:26] <Gnea> paul68: aah, I just registered on the forums page and I think it just increases the more you post/reply
[07:27] <BladeNBrocade> neil_d: service level agreement
[07:27] <neil_d> BladeNBrocade: ok
[07:27] <Lord_Devi> neil_d: Service Level Agreement. Essentialy gaurenteed service in a gauranteed time frame
[07:27] <BladeNBrocade> more or less
[07:27] <Lord_Devi> Companies with far too much money love em. hehe
[07:27] <paul68> Gnea: thats just the number of posts you are doing, I don't have an example at hand was just wondering how to become "an official ubuntu user"
[07:28] <sejt1> ok i dont know ?then save/exit? Gnea
[07:28] <Lord_Devi> Who wouldn't wonder! =)
[07:28] <BladeNBrocade> heh tell me about it... we have 15 minutes SLA response 4 hr to resolve/escalate
[07:28]  * Lord_Devi 's eyes pop out of his head
[07:29]  * BladeNBrocade 's pops out his everyday =(
[07:29] <Lord_Devi> I could never offer an SLA like that myself..
[07:29] <Lord_Devi> You want it when?!?
[07:29] <BladeNBrocade> lol haha .. well we bend the rules alot as well
[07:29] <Lord_Devi> hah
[07:29] <Lord_Devi> who's we?
[07:30] <thurston> Good day. Does anyone have an idea when on 23/04/2009 (today) will Ubuntu 9.04 be available. I am not referring to the release candidate.
[07:30] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, thats quite a demand..15 minutes?  and you only have 500 ppl you said?
[07:30] <BladeNBrocade> i have clients like mastercard, the gap,, its expected
[07:30] <Flannel> thurston: No.  No one does.  #ubuntu-release-party might be a good place to hang out though.
[07:30] <paul68> BladeNBrocade: we have a service level of 95% to be solved directly on first call and we are actually at 99%
[07:30] <Lord_Devi> thurston: good day. I think in an hour and a half from now it's supposed to be on the servers...
[07:30] <BladeNBrocade> yes 15 minutes to respond .. meaning when our monitrong sees an alert there is a countdown
[07:30] <Lord_Devi> oh yeah.. not supposed to answer that question.
[07:30]  * Lord_Devi smacks his forehead
[07:30] <Flannel> Lord_Devi: especially with bad information.
[07:31]  * Lord_Devi nods at Flannel, That too..
[07:31] <Lord_Devi> I'm just workin off a time I heard in here earlier. =)
[07:31] <BladeNBrocade> paul68: awesome... our competitors are people like IBM,,, we just partnered with Cisco because they dont support applications.. the work flow just increased by alsmost 250% .. yes @ the central office i can only say we have 80 people at most..
[07:32] <thurston> Lord_Devi: Thank you for your response. I will try to be patient. I am now hooked on Ubuntu.
[07:32] <BladeNBrocade> we have onsite teams.. we have a india office,, and california and netherlands.. but still not big at all those offices..
[07:32] <paul68> BladeNBrocade: ouch thats a lot of work lol
[07:32] <BladeNBrocade> yes its .. ironically... lol making more people QUIT... so its actually getting worst..
[07:33] <cemc> jaunty with gnome. I have no visual effects enabled, still when I minimize a window, there's a basic minimize effect. How can I disable that?
[07:33] <Gnea> paul68: I'm really not sure, sorry... but thanks for reminding me, I need to update that howto I started writing last year :)
[07:34] <Flannel> cemc: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks.
[07:34] <cemc> Flannel: got it. sorry.
[07:34] <Canaen> Anyone have experience with Ubuntu Tweak and/or upgrading intrepid's native OpenOffice 2.4 to 3.0.1?
[07:35] <BladeNBrocade> not sure about tweak but the installation files should be available on the Oo0 site if not the repo no?
[07:36] <BladeNBrocade> Canaen: there is as well an option to update in O0O... i think that would acquire the 3.0 binary atleast
[07:36] <Geoffrey2> oh, is there a command to let you know how much swap is actually being used, if any?
[07:36] <BladeNBrocade> swap -l
[07:36] <BladeNBrocade> swapon -l
[07:36] <Gnea> !ooo
[07:36] <Lord_Devi> Geoffrey2: 'free'
[07:37] <Canaen> BladeNBrocade: should I uninstall 2.4 first, or should I be able to just upgrade?
[07:37] <BladeNBrocade> -s actually
[07:37] <Geoffrey2> surprise, surprise....none
[07:37] <BladeNBrocade> swapon -s
[07:37] <BladeNBrocade> Canaen: not sure u can always just uninstall the 2.4
[07:37] <Canaen> mmk
[07:37] <w-heat> quick question: I have 3 machines to upgrade when 9.04 is released; what would be the best way of doing this? Will there be a CD image that supports upgrade or do I have to apt on each box?
[07:37] <celthunder> BladeNBrocade, can i pm you ?
[07:38] <BladeNBrocade> celthunder: why not
[07:38] <Flannel> w-heat: You can use the alternate CD to upgrade, yes.  But, also, if you have three boxes, have you looked into apt-proxy?
[07:38] <ssn> hi guys
[07:39] <jbu> Is there a way to upgrade to 9.04 without deleting the files on the partition?
[07:39] <ssn> could it be that jaunty is late?
[07:39] <Flannel> jbu: Of course.   Regular upgrade proceures.
[07:39] <Orlsend> Maybe ssn.
[07:39] <Flannel> !upgrade | jbu
[07:39] <w-heat> Flannel: thanls for the link
[07:39] <kenyon> w-heat: I'd just use aptitude or whatever the upgrade guide says if they have decent internet connections to their sources.list mirrors.
[07:39] <jbu> thanks
[07:39] <ssn> Somehow, the release candidate does not detect my raid
[07:39] <Flannel> ssn: Please join #ubuntu-release-party for the countdown/anticipation/etc
[07:40] <ssn> ok
[07:40] <w-heat> kenyon: yeah, I just anticipated that the load was going to be high
[07:40] <kenyon> w-heat: Ah, true.
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[07:41] <neil_d> it seems that the flash player (e.g. youtube) has no sound :(  can anyone help?
[07:41] <CaneToad> neil_d:  is any sound working for you at all?
[07:41] <joshux> when
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> neil_d: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=964165
[07:42] <joshux> !9.04
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> neil_d: http://tech.mikelopez.info/2008/12/13/no-sound-in-flash-in-ubuntu-intrepid/
[07:42] <Aperculum> big day, today \o/
[07:42] <Orlsend> whats the channel for the realease party?
[07:43] <Flannel> Orlsend: #ubuntu-release-party
[07:43] <Orlsend> thanks
[07:43] <neil_d> CaneToad: yes!  vlc plays a DVD ok
[07:43] <Aperculum> Flannel: I thought you were joking before I joined there :)
[07:45] <jbu> Flannel, but if I wanted to change to ext4 (I have ext3 now) I couldn't just upgrade?  I'd have to do a clean install?
[07:46] <Flannel> jbu: I believe you can.
[07:46] <CaneToad> neil_d, I have Ubuntu 8.10 and by default it comes set up with pulse audio, but pulse audio at least with the default settings is really badly broken.  My sound has been behaving very nicely since I followed the instructions at http://blog.jayway.com/2008/11/10/getting-sound-to-work-on-ubuntu-810ut/
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> !sound
[07:47] <neil_d> CaneToad: ok having a look now.
[07:47] <levon_> i need help getting my micro innovations web cam to work. could someone lend a hand thank you
[07:48] <Code_Bleu> when is 9.04 actually going to be up for download?
[07:48] <chronicpirate> anybody know of any sort of announce chan for the ubuntu torrents
[07:48] <Flannel> Code_Bleu: Sometime within the next 27 hours.  #ubuntu-release party, Also chronicpirate.
[07:48] <chronicpirate> so I can set my highlights for irc
[07:48] <Flannel> chronicpirate: subscribe to the ubuntu-announce mailing list.
[07:49] <Code_Bleu> will 'sudo update-manager -d' work on the beta and RC versions once the final release is out?
[07:49] <gartral2> how do i rotate my monitor's output, the monitor has a swivel, but i cant rotate
[07:49] <Flannel> Code_Bleu: you don't need the -d once you're on the RC/beta
[07:49] <Code_Bleu> Flannel: 27 hours? I thought it was released today 23rd?
[07:50] <chronicpirate> delays make me sad
[07:50] <Flannel> Code_Bleu: Come to #ubuntu-release-party
[07:50] <gartral2> Code_Bleu: for half the world, that IS the 23rd
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> chronicpirate: due to time differences it'll get released all different times
[07:51] <chronicpirate> :o
[07:51] <chronicpirate> so then for my time zone will it be out at midnight?
[07:51] <chronicpirate> in like 10 mintues?
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> chronicpirate: easter island gets the biggest delays. I'm sure another 24 hours or so won't destroy your system
[07:51] <chronicpirate> probably not
[07:51] <chronicpirate> ActionParsnip: are you sure?
[07:51] <chronicpirate> it might
[07:52] <Flannel> chronicpirate: #ubuntu-release-party, not here.  thanks.
[07:52] <jbu> well it'll get released at all different times if you consider that in different time zone's it's always a different time
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> chronicpirate: i severly doubt it, chillout dude. More important things in life to worry about than a software upgrade
[07:52] <chronicpirate> it doesn't seems to be out at all though
[07:52] <chronicpirate> if it were it would be on the torrents
[07:52] <chronicpirate> and only beta and rc are now :c
[07:52] <Flannel> chronicpirate: #ubuntu-release-party is the place for this discussion, not here.  Please take it there.
[07:52] <blizzard_pro> nick
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> !nick
[07:53] <maximo> question: how do I view the history of commands I have use on my system lately?
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> maximo: history
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> maximo: if you wish to rerun one of the commands, read the left hand column
[07:53] <maximo> ActionParsnip: how about the less?
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> maximo: then type !<number>
[07:54] <Code_Bleu> does anyone know if it is possible to install ubuntu on the "instant on" arm based processor, part of the new Dell latitude e4300 laptop?
[07:54] <blizzard_pro> #chan
[07:54] <Aggrav8d> hi, people!  i want to modify the /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd start to add some parameters.  where do i find the bash script that is being run?
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> maximo: you can pipe it into less
[07:54] <blizzard_pro> #CHANNEL
[07:54] <maximo> ActionParsnip: thanks alot
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> maximo: you can also grep it
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> maximo: for example if you want to rerun command 400 then you would type: !400
[07:54] <maximo> Action grep / less / history
[07:54] <maximo> okay thanks
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> maximo: or you can do stuff like
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> maximo: history | grep apt
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> maximo: to see all the commands containing the word 'apt'
[07:55] <Geoffrey2> do I need to use a live CD or such if I want to resize /home?
[07:55] <maximo> ActionParsnip: neat
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> maximo: the default length is the lst 1000 commands you typed and it is stored in ~/.bash_history
[07:55] <Flannel> Geoffrey2: Yes, you can't resize a mounted partition.
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> maximo: makes rerunning commands easier
[07:56] <maximo> ActionParsnip: that is my problem when I went into linux (commands)
[07:56] <maximo> ActionParsnip: correct...shorter
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> maximo: there is a way to manipulate the list from CLI but ive never bothered (like inseting history lines and moving them around)
[07:57] <Code_Bleu> does ubuntu have a twitter account? that would be cool if they did and when the actual files are posted they could just tweet and then people who tweet, would know
[07:58] <Geoffrey2> and /home can't be unmounted unless I'm running from the live CD....got it
[07:58] <Flannel> Code_Bleu: We have an announce mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce  But, this belongs in -release-party
[07:58]  * BladeNBrocade collapses
[07:58] <maximo> ActionParsnip: I know by way of reading you  all this and practising....
[07:58] <Flannel> !away > RoozbehOnline
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Geoffrey2: if /home is on its own partition you can unmount it afaik, you will need to unmount any other partitions too if you are resizing into them, i recommend using the live cd for simplicity
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> maximo: best way
[07:59] <maximo> ActionParsnip: go ahead
[08:00] <gartral2> need to figure out monitor rotation...
[08:00] <karbo> is the version available through the update-manager the final version, or the rc?
[08:00] <xukun> I think this has bees asked one or twice but what time is the release of 9.04?
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> maximo: huh?
[08:00] <BladeNBrocade> does sudo cache the passwords of the user?
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> !isitout
[08:00] <xukun> ActionParsnip, thanks
[08:00] <ivoks> has it been released yet? :)
[08:00] <maximo> ActionParsnip: you know of school in toronto to learn linux (networking) ?
[08:00] <maximo> thanks
[08:01] <Flannel> BladeNBrocade: for 10 minutes by default.  You can disable it if you'd like.
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> maximo: no idea an, sorry
[08:01] <BladeNBrocade> Flannel: yes yes i want to disable.. =)
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> *man
[08:01] <maximo> ActionParsnip: on line if any?
[08:01] <Furu> Hi! does anyone know when today the 9.04 release is?:)
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> maximo: i'm sure they exist but you may have to dig around
[08:02] <Flannel> BladeNBrocade: May I ask why?
[08:02] <paul68> !isitout
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> paul68: i'd put that on clipboard for a day or so ;)
[08:02] <maximo> ActionParsnip: I see linuxquestions.org  <----seems to be good one
[08:02] <BladeNBrocade> Flannel: where exactly does sudo cache this in memory? flat file? db file? im a little anal about that..
[08:03] <paul68> ActionParsnip: lol just a large popup when loging on to this channel would be more helpfull I guess
[08:03] <Flannel> BladeNBrocade: It doesn't cache the password.  It just caches the fact that you have valid permissions.
[08:03] <BladeNBrocade> Flannel: i see
[08:03] <paul68> ActionParsnip: do you know how to become a registered ubuntu user?
[08:04] <BladeNBrocade> Flannel: very interesting
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> !register
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> paul68: other than that, no idea
[08:04] <paul68> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[08:04] <KingKimi> !netboot > Kimi
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> paul68: i can't see it achieving much. I registered myself as a Linux user agaes ago. i think it was on distrowatch
[08:05] <ikonia> KingKimi: your account is kingkimi - not kimi
[08:05] <KingKimi> !netboot > KingKimi
[08:05] <KingKimi> ikonia, thanks.. it was my habit.... but now i registered nick as kingkimi as kimi is already taken
[08:06] <paul68> ActionParsnip: ok no worries
[08:07] <Aggrav8d> please:  i want to modify the /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd start to add some parameters.  where do i find the bash script that is being run?
[08:08] <Aggrav8d> i mean, where do i find the line with the parameters?
[08:08] <rumpel> @ Aggrav8d it is a script itself
[08:08] <BladeNBrocade> Flannel: Defaultstimestamp_timeout = 0
[08:08] <BladeNBrocade> ?
[08:08] <Flannel> BladeNBrocade: timestamp_timeout = 0
[08:08] <Flannel> BladeNBrocade: make sure you use visudo
[08:09] <BladeNBrocade> Flannel: ofcourse dude.. lol
[08:09] <Aggrav8d> rumpel - i know .../init.d/pure-ftpd is a script, but i read it and couldn't find any mention of the parameters I wanted to change.  do you know where i should look to find them?
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> !bum | Aggrav8d
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> Aggrav8d: that may give some clues
[08:10] <gartral2> !info Nezuiz
[08:10] <gartral2> whats the name of that game >.<
[08:10] <Gabz^laptop> Nexuiz ?
[08:10] <nspb> hayy
[08:10] <axsd9d> !nexuiz
[08:10] <gartral2> !info Nexuiz
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> gartral2: check out penumbra as well. Awesome game
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> gartral2: pretty scary stuff
[08:12] <gartral2> eh, not my style, whatss nexuiz like?
[08:12] <BladeNBrocade> starwars --> "telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl"
[08:14] <anglo> merci
[08:14] <blap> what do you guys believe the most used theme for emerald is?
[08:15] <sriramoman> what time will jaunty-ubuntu mostly be released
[08:15] <g4lt-lappy> Strider^, the same time that /topic states
[08:15] <g4lt-lappy> sriramoman, ^^^^^
[08:16] <sriramoman> g4lt-lappy, it doesnt state the time...
[08:16] <sriramoman> oh sorry
[08:17] <DaveWM> how would i go about installing just a base system of the ubuntu install,  so basically i'd have a basic shell and apt-get to work my way up to a custom install ?
[08:17] <DaveWM> i've done it with debian plenty of times,  but i'm thinking of making the switch
[08:18]  * sriramoman is eagerly waiting for jaunty's release
[08:18] <g4lt-lappy> DaveWM, try the server install, it's about as stripped as you can get
[08:18] <Flannel> DaveWM: Grab the alternate CD.  From the alternate CD you can do a "command line only" install, and then you can install whatever GUI, etc you want ontop of it.
[08:18] <DaveWM> kewl
[08:18] <kjkjl> my desktop effects are not functioning. so i want to know if a program like blender which might use alot of graphics will it work in my ubuntu.
[08:18] <DaveWM> friend of mine just linked me to this "Ubuntu 8.10 "Intrepid Ibex" Minimal CD 9.9MB"
[08:18] <chordogg> g4lt-lappy: server install has tweaks to the kernel that might not be suitable for desktop installations, no?
[08:19] <DaveWM> that may be about what i need i suppose
[08:19] <DaveWM> heh
[08:19] <Flannel> DaveWM: The primary mode of the alternate CD installs a standard desktop system, command line only is... under an f4 or f5 menu at boot.
[08:19] <Roman> jfjf
[08:19] <raseel> @DaveWM: Can you share that link
[08:19] <Flannel> DaveWM: minimal will work too.  It's just the alternate CD without the packages on the CD itself.
[08:19] <Flannel> !minimal | DaveWM, raseel
[08:19] <DaveWM> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[08:19] <Roman> does anyone know how to convert a .ogg file into a mp4 file
[08:19] <g4lt-lappy> chordogg, given most "servers" you see in production aare just recycled desktops, no
[08:19] <DaveWM> yeah,  which is pretty much what i wanted
[08:20] <raseel> ubottu: Oh.. It's like a netinstall CD ?
[08:20] <gartral2> roman, what are you throwing the music into that it needs to be mp4, an ipod?
[08:20] <DaveWM> cause atm,  when i install debian,  i use the netinst,  and skip the install tasks at the end,  which leaves me with base system,  networking,  apt...
[08:20] <chordogg> g4lt-lappy: i read that the ubuntu kernel for servers modifies the scheduler, and such
[08:20] <kjkjl> how do i know if blender would work in my system wothout risking a crash
[08:20] <g4lt-lappy> chordate, so does medibuntu, and that's for desktops...
[08:21] <jdownie> what's the eta of the 9.04 torrent being seeded?
[08:21] <Flannel> jdownie: Sometime before its the 24th everywhere.
[08:21] <kjkjl> how do i know if a program would work in ubuntu without risking a crash
[08:21] <chordogg> g4lt-lappy: interesting
[08:22] <Flannel> DaveWM: The minimal (and alternate) CD uses debian-installer, so you can get into expert mode and do it all that way if you'd like as well.
[08:22] <kjkjl> help
[08:22] <DaveWM> sweet
[08:23] <DaveWM> to be honest,  i'd been bad mouthing ubuntu along with others for a while... and really the only reason is that i find the standard install a bit bloated...  which isnt really a good reason,  cause most distributions fall under that category with a default installation
[08:23] <DaveWM> and its apparent that ubuntu repo's rule,  and you can find information specifically reguarding ubuntu much easier than any other distribution
[08:23] <DaveWM> heh
[08:23]  * g4lt-lappy typically recommends "install everything and the kitchen sink" unless you know what you're doing
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> DaveWM: i find the standard install bloated too, I have a script to wrench about half the installed apps
[08:24] <raseel> The update-manager shows "9.04" is available, is this the RC or the final release ?
[08:24] <DaveWM> yeah
[08:24] <chronicpirate> DaveWM: you can alsways remove packages you don't want to make it not bloated.
[08:24] <chronicpirate> of course you might as well just install clean debian if you wanna do that :\
[08:24] <DaveWM> i've been more of a windows geek for years,  and windows is the king of bloat,  so i think i should ease up on ubuntu
[08:24] <DaveWM> hehe
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> DaveWM: most of the stuff is standard, like configuring apache will be identical in all linuxes
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> DaveWM: and samba
[08:25] <DaveWM> yeah,  clean debian is ok,  but its nice to have ubuntu's support at hand
[08:25] <DaveWM> heh
[08:25] <chronicpirate> meh windows isnt THAT bloated if you install it yourself and don't buy it pre-installed with all the other crap pc companies wanna throw at you
[08:26] <DaveWM> i dunno,  i've found a ton of things that i can rip out of a basic windows install
[08:26] <DaveWM> and alot of things to disable as well
[08:26] <DaveWM> heh
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> chronicpirate: a standard vista install takes 7Gb
[08:26] <chronicpirate> DaveWM: true... but any type of issue you're having with debian the ubuntu team could help with
[08:26] <chronicpirate> ubuntu == debian with packages pre-installed
[08:26] <zipper> DaveWM, You could always install ubuntu using the alternative cd. That allows you to do a very minimal install and then pick each of the packages you want afterwards
[08:26] <chronicpirate> anyway you'd go about troubleshooting is essentially the same
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> chronicpirate: my ubuntu + office productivity +a whole slew of stuff vista doesnt have....2.6Gb
[08:26] <chronicpirate> expecially since 99% of the time they make you do terminal commands to fix things
[08:26] <SealedWithAKiss> I'm using Ubuntu 8.04. When trying to play music using Frostwire for example, whilst YouTube is open, the sound doesn't work. And when trying to play YouTube videos, if another application that produces audio output is running, YouTube doesn't work. It's almost as though you can only have one sound output application open at a time. Does anybody know why this might be? Or how I can go about resolving it?
[08:27] <DaveWM> right,  i understand that,  but i still have a place for debian when i need the most minimal setup,  but i'm just saying i'm gonna give ubuntu a go with some customizing
[08:27] <viro> hey guys is it dumb to think dvr comes with this bundle ? http://www.quicksnapper.com/viro/image/untitled
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> DaveWM: if you want minimal, try xpud
[08:27] <viro> random turtle!
[08:27] <zipper> I hear LFS is pretty minimal....
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> DaveWM: boots in 4 seconds here
[08:27] <SealedWithAKiss> In continuation, sometimes the sound screws up altogether, and doesn't work until I reboot.
[08:27] <gartral2> TinyCORE!
[08:28] <Flannel> !offtopic
[08:28] <DaveWM> dude,  that's actually pretty neat looking,  i'm always looking or distributions like that to play around with
[08:28] <ronald1> Hello to all. Short question: the countdown for 9.0.4 was 0 today. What does "comming soon" mean? Later Today, Tomorrow or later
[08:28] <DaveWM> that does look ideal for making an old junk box into something useful
[08:28] <DaveWM> heh
[08:28] <DaveWM> xpud that is
[08:28] <DaveWM> never heard of it before
[08:28] <zaggynl> SealedWithAKiss: sounds like the mixer part of your sound system isn't working
[08:28] <zipper> ronald1, i see you did a great job on reading the topic =P
[08:28] <zaggynl> !mixer
[08:29] <DaveWM> i'll check that out for sure
[08:29] <gartral2> theres also the ubuntu fork, crunchbang...
[08:29] <SealedWithAKiss> zaggynl, how would I go about resolving that?
[08:29] <silver_swords> where's 9.04 ?
[08:29] <DaveWM> that might be neat as an extra boot option on my eee pc for when all i wanna do is browse or play media
[08:29] <zipper> silver_swords, i see you did a great job on reading the topic =P
[08:29] <steveccc> silver_swords: i was just thinking the same thing - do we have to wait for the whole world to enter the 23rd before the files appear?
[08:29] <zaggynl> SealedWithAKiss: sound mixing can be done by software, audiopulse or even alsa has that afaik, I'd try searching the ubuntuforums with your soundcard info in the query
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> DaveWM: true, its a bit young yet but keep an eye on it
[08:29] <Flannel> silver_swords, ronald1: It'll be released at some point within the next 27 hours.  Please join #ubuntu-release-party to keep track.
[08:29] <DaveWM> yeah
[08:30] <Flannel> zipper: Please be polite.
[08:30] <DaveWM> what's the one i'm thinking...
[08:30] <DaveWM> gimme a sec
[08:30] <silver_swords> thnx
[08:30] <zipper> Flannel, I am being polite. I'm just stating the obvious
[08:30] <DaveWM> kind of makes me think of gOS
[08:30] <Flannel> zipper: Alright, lets try this then: Don't be a dick.
[08:30] <DaveWM> which i havent tried either
[08:31] <DaveWM> browser based OS is what it looks like from description
[08:31] <steveccc> zipper: i didnt see a problem in your comment
[08:32] <ronald1> @Flannel Thanks! @zipper it would me a good one to set the info from Flannel in the topic!
[08:33] <g4lt-lappy> Flannel, taht's nice advice, when were you planning on following it yourself?
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> haha
[08:34] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: that's not necessary.
[08:36] <SealedWithAKiss> zaggynl, thanks.
[08:37] <Falstaf> Is Ubuntu 9.04 ready yet?
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> what are hard drive reserved blocks actually for?
[08:37] <sdakpos> Falstaf: read topic
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> !isitout
[08:37] <BIGSEX> hey guys
[08:38] <BIGSEX> anyone here dual boot with XP?
[08:38] <linny> has 9.04 been delayed ?
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | BIGSEX
[08:38] <Linuxrevolution> hi all
[08:38] <Linuxrevolution> how to convert WMA to MP3?
[08:38] <Kanilla> you use google
[08:38] <Anklar> hali
[08:38] <BIGSEX> How much disk space do you need to partition off to install ubuntu with XP?
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Linuxrevolution: i'd imagine mencoder would play a big part
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Kanilla: you could answer any question with that
[08:39] <chronicpirate> ummm.. I'd say 7GB is pretty decnet size + 1-3GB for swap
[08:39] <linny> Linuxrevolution: http://kozgun.net/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Linux.Wma2Mp3 any help ?
[08:39] <chronicpirate> depedning on how much you're going to install on it
[08:39] <Kanilla> ActionParsnip: yes, yes you could
[08:39] <BIGSEX> thanks chron
[08:39] <Linuxrevolution> ActionParsnip: whats mencoder?
[08:39] <chronicpirate> sure :)
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Kanilla: so saying it is moot, and not helpful
[08:39] <BIGSEX> woudl you recommend guided install?
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> !info mencoder
[08:39] <BIGSEX> where linux finds the partition/sets it up for you
[08:39] <BIGSEX> or would you suggest doing it manually?
[08:39] <Linuxrevolution> linny: oh thanks let me try it
[08:39] <chronicpirate> ummmm.. not nessiceraly
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Linuxrevolution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37793
[08:40] <linny> linux make sure you have ffmpeg installed
[08:40] <Linuxrevolution> ActionParsnip: thanks alot
[08:40] <chronicpirate> first you ABSOUTLY must defrag windows to a point were ALL off it's data is continous
[08:40] <chronicpirate> as in the partition you cut off the end of the windows one will not have any thing on it
[08:40] <BIGSEX> absolutely
[08:40] <chronicpirate> or it will fuck you royaly
[08:40] <linny> #
[08:41] <BIGSEX> i'm doing it on my old computer in case i do in fact fuck myself in a royal fashion
[08:41] <Flannel> chronicpirate: Please mind your language.
[08:41] <gypsymauro> hi
[08:41] <kj4> hello all
[08:41] <BIGSEX> woops
[08:41] <chronicpirate> and if you know what you're doing I wouldn't use the guided
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> i personally recommend a clean install with intelligent partitioning of windows to leave free space for ubuntu
[08:41] <chronicpirate> oh sorry
[08:41] <BIGSEX> ok
[08:41] <kj4> when can I download intrepid ignoramus?
[08:41] <chronicpirate> I've done it with windows on there aready
[08:41] <BIGSEX> and no problems?
[08:41] <kj4> i'm sure thats the question of the evening
[08:41] <Madpilot> BIGSEX, mind finding a nick that doesn't offend, pls?
[08:41] <chronicpirate> but I knew hwat I was doing
[08:41] <chronicpirate> really not that hard
[08:41] <chronicpirate> you just use the partioin app in the live boot version and cut off the end of your windows partition
[08:41] <LARGEFAMILYGETTO> there we go
[08:42] <LARGEFAMILYGETTO> woops
[08:42] <LARGEFAMILYGETTO> that failed
[08:42] <Linuxrevolution> linny: there is a problem here
[08:42] <kj4> LARGEFAMILYGETTO, i'm offended
[08:42] <gypsymauro> I know it's a silly question but on saturday we have a Free Software event so I want to prepare 5 notebook with the latest ubuntu (9.04) and I know that tomorrow and the other days the download will be impossible.. is the RC the nearest version of the final one? or there are daily snapshots?
[08:42] <Linuxrevolution> linny: Error while decoding stream #0.0
[08:42] <LARGEFAMILYGETTO> its supposed to say large family get together
[08:42] <chronicpirate> mount it to like /mount/windows and then the root to / and oh yeah make a bit off the endo f your new partition to be swap and set it to /swap
[08:42] <Kanilla> i think getto is better
[08:42] <chronicpirate> but It wouldn't be a bad idea to do it all clean
[08:42] <Madpilot> gypsymauro, if you installed the RC then updated, you'd get the final
[08:43] <St3v3> alright
[08:43] <St3v3> thanks a lot chronic
[08:43] <kj4> Madpilot, are you sure bout dat?
[08:43] <chronicpirate> heh no wories
[08:43] <Linuxrevolution> ActionParsnip: I've seen this page in ubuntuforums but when I convert file output is just a 5 KB file size :/
[08:43] <chronicpirate> if it fucks up you're no worse off then doing fresh anyway :D
[08:43] <Madpilot> kj4, yes.
[08:43] <chronicpirate> that's the good news
[08:43] <chronicpirate> oh god
[08:43] <St3v3> that's true
[08:43] <FloodBot2> chronicpirate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:43] <kj4> when can i downlaod the release?
[08:44] <Seeker`> !language | chronicpirate
[08:44] <sdakpos> tomorrow
[08:44] <St3v3> man, the moderating is intense here
[08:44] <chronicpirate> sorry it's hard to stop cussing.. most of the networks I use don't mind :)
[08:44] <kj4> what time tomorrow?
[08:44] <St3v3> chron, have you tried running a liveUSB at all?
[08:44] <chronicpirate> St3v3: nope
[08:44] <Madpilot> St3v3, it's a release day and there's 1500 in this channel. Normally it's a bit more relaxed...
[08:44] <sdakpos> kj4: tomorrow.. anytime.. because it will be available sometime today
[08:44] <kj4> bye you bastidges
[08:45] <St3v3> Mad:fair enough, thanks for the info
[08:45] <Linuxrevolution> linny: ffmpeg is installed
[08:45] <chronicpirate> only problem with that is the mobo on the computer you're using has to both be able to boot from usb and have it set to boot from that before a hdd
[08:45] <chronicpirate> so if it's your own thing it's fine
[08:45] <St3v3> chron: right, i've read a ton about it, and i've tried it, my comp is completely capable of booting from a USB but it still says that theres no OS on the pen drive
[08:45] <chronicpirate> but if you like wanna take it on the go for troubleshooting for work/fun or to use it at public places like school it might not work
[08:46] <chronicpirate> hmmm
[08:46] <chronicpirate> don't know then.. I've never tried it myself
[08:46] <sdakpos> kj4: what does it mean? as you can guess i'm not a native english speaker ;p
[08:46] <St3v3> yeah, i was hoping it'd be easier than it is, i just wanna try the OS out for a while with a persistent install before i go headfirst and possibly erase a hard drive
[08:46] <chronicpirate> St3v3: you just thowing an iso on there or you actually installing it there
[08:47] <St3v3> just putting the iso on
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> Linuxrevolution: you need something like that. Try: http://freshmeat.net/projects/audio-convert
[08:47] <chronicpirate> that's your problem
[08:47] <St3v3> well i mean
[08:47] <chronicpirate> it's a file that way
[08:47] <St3v3> right
[08:47] <chronicpirate> your usb stick won't mount it like it were a physical drive
[08:47] <St3v3> i used the tool in ubuntu that makes a liveUSB which basically works like the liveCD but with a persistence loop
[08:47] <chronicpirate> neither will your mobo more the leiky
[08:47] <Adalid_Negro> i have 9.04
[08:47] <storhaug3> JAUNTY!!!!
[08:47] <chronicpirate> I think you can actually install it to the external device
[08:48] <gypsymauro> Adalid_Negro: ?
[08:48] <Adalid_Negro> yes you can obtain yet?
[08:48] <Guest82508> i guys...i have ubuntu 8.10 on my desktop and ubuntu 8.4 on my laptop.....in ubuntu 8.10 if i set the terminal background ad "transparent" i can see the underground windows ( not only the wallpaper) how can i do the same in ubuntu 8.4????
[08:48] <St3v3> i've considered that, but i read it eventually krushes your stick from overuse
[08:48] <Adalid_Negro> i has downloadthis =)
[08:48] <chronicpirate> O_o
[08:48] <Flannel> !jaunty | Adalid_Negro, gypsymauro, storhaug3
[08:48] <sdakpos> kj4: and actuallty if you have older version of ubuntu you can run update-manager -d to update to 9.04
[08:48] <chronicpirate> it wouldn't be any worse then what you're doing dude
[08:48] <Linuxrevolution> ActionParsnip: hmmmmmmmmm I'll try it
[08:48] <chronicpirate> be it an installed os or an image your computer sitll reads from it the same
[08:49] <storhaug3> aah thank you for pointing me to #ubuntu-release-party
[08:49] <chronicpirate> when you use a live disk it accesses the dvd/cd just as if it were on a hdd
[08:49] <St3v3> fair enough, wouldn't a 4gb stick be pushing it a little though?
[08:49] <chronicpirate> that's why it's all so slo
[08:49] <Adalid_Negro> i have iso (not RC)
[08:49] <chronicpirate> na man
[08:49] <chronicpirate> it would be basically the exact same thing
[08:49] <St3v3> sweeeet
[08:49] <chronicpirate> but you could actualy save stuff
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> St3v3: my / partition is only using 2.6Gb
[08:49] <chronicpirate> and not start from scratch every time
[08:49] <St3v3> right
[08:49] <St3v3> well
[08:50] <St3v3> the liveUSB thing actually has a persistence loop so it saves changes
[08:50] <chronicpirate> ohhh
[08:50] <Adalid_Negro> well nowhere taht lke the new iso...?
[08:50] <chronicpirate> I see
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> St3v3: just remember to read through    dpkg -l | less
[08:50] <St3v3> but
[08:50] <Flannel> Adalid_Negro: This channel is not for the discussion of the release of Jaunty.  Please head to the appropriate channel. Also, 9.04 is not released yet.  Thanks.
[08:50] <storhaug3> Adalid_Negro: the latest daily release is probably the same as 9.04 final if you want it that bad
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> St3v3: and remove all the stuff you dont use
[08:50] <kjkjl> actionparsnip any idea about how to check if the drivers are installed properly
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> kjkjl: sudo lshw -C <something>
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> kjkjl: depends for what piece of hardware
[08:51] <kjkjl> is there any reference for these commands
[08:51] <Adalid_Negro> sorry flanel, i can obtain a copy and i would help
[08:51] <chronicpirate> I'd try an actual install on the stick cause even so it's still going to access it the same weahter it's live or actually installed on there
[08:51] <St3v3> alright, i'll definitely try that, that's the only reason i bought that stick anyways
[08:51] <chronicpirate> and flash memory is really realiable so you'd have to use it a LOT to wear it out
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> kjkjl: man <command>
[08:51] <St3v3> awesome
[08:52] <kjkjl> actionparsnip i am unable to enable desktop effects inubuntu so wondering whats wrong with my computer
[08:52] <chronicpirate> I mena I sill have ps2/1 memory cards that are running perfect and those are like 6=7 years old
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> kjkjl: theres even man man   but no man woman
[08:52] <St3v3> if i do a full install on the stick don't i have to change some advanced option at the end regarding where the GRUB goes?
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> kjkjl: you need to install video drivers
[08:52] <chronicpirate> St3v3: not sure. never done it myself but I would assume so
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> kjkjl: what is the output of   lspci | grep -i vga
[08:52] <chronicpirate> I recall there being an "Install to external device" option but I might be wrong
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> !usb
[08:53] <St3v3> oh man
[08:53] <chronicpirate> there you go
[08:53] <St3v3> e-help
[08:53] <sdakpos> http://byy.pl/Ubuntu904/
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> St3v3: you can pay for phone help if you wish
[08:54] <St3v3> nah, i'm good, just wanted to see if there was more info on it. i'm just trying to exhaust every option short of dual booting for now
[08:54] <chronicpirate> St3v3: you got more then one HDD?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> St3v3: well, why do you need XP?
[08:54] <kjkjl> actionparsnip 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[08:54] <St3v3> chron: no, i don't. i'm thinking about "dual booting" by using an external eventually
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> kjkjl: ok now you have that you can websearch how to set it up
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> i gotta go check some web interfaces real quick
[08:55] <St3v3> and AP: i've been using windows all my life and all of my work is on it, i'm not ready to just throw it all out the window
[08:55] <chronicpirate> I still got windows for games
[08:55] <St3v3> exactly
[08:55] <chronicpirate> I don't care if you CAN get them to run on linux either
[08:56] <chronicpirate> they still don't run as well as natively
[08:56] <St3v3> i couldn't agree more. i mostly need linux to run some crazy fmri software. everything else is staying on windows
[08:56] <DaveWM> ok,  so i'm looking for an ubuntu flavor to put on a eee pc 901 that i just purchased for my mom,  there's so many netbook/mobile versions i don't know what to go with,  i just know she needs something intuitive and easy to use,  so far i'm stuck looking between eeebuntu,  ubuntu UMPC,  or easy peasy
[08:56] <St3v3> so i've heard
[08:56] <chronicpirate> and my old pc barely can run the games I got as it is
[08:56] <DaveWM> anybody got any experience with those?  the interface os UMPC looks really nice
[08:56] <DaveWM> os=of
[08:57] <St3v3> you're tellin me, the laptop i'm trying to dualboot with has a 60gb (upgraded) hard drive and a broken fan. that's class.
[08:57] <chronicpirate> oh nice
[08:57] <St3v3> it struggled to run tribes 2
[08:57] <St3v3> if that gives you any indication
[08:57] <ssn> does anyone know how to restore grub if all linux partitions are deleted (just windows left)?
[08:57] <chronicpirate> like I said though you should just try the dual boot what I told ya earlier.. if it messes up you're no worse off then doing it fresh :)
[08:58] <St3v3> absolutely, thanks so much for the advice chron
[08:58] <chronicpirate> so long as you make sure it's properly defragged and you don't mount the windows drive to / when you install you're good
[08:58] <andreas>                                gkehg
[08:58] <andreas> russs
[08:58] <andreas> rtuu
[08:58] <andreas> wwww4eyu
[08:58] <andreas> ruujWSE
[08:58] <FloodBot2> andreas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:58] <chronicpirate> even if something goes awry you sill have your windows data and can use fixmbr to get it back
[08:59] <chronicpirate> most cases anyway
[08:59] <St3v3> haha, from what i've read it sounds like when you screw with the MBR a little things get all wild
[09:00] <chronicpirate> na.. sometimes grub can mess up but if you use windows xp as a boot disk and fix your mbr it's good as new
[09:00] <ssn> chronicpirate: its vista and i dont have a windows boot cd at hand
[09:01] <kjkjl> in the terminal it say press return but thre is no return labelled key on my keyboard
[09:01] <chronicpirate> if you know hwat you're doing you can even manually edit your boot.ini file using ubuntu live after it's already installed to it's own partitin and set up dual boot hat way
[09:01] <chronicpirate> oh
[09:01] <chronicpirate> wait?
[09:01] <chronicpirate> ssn?
[09:01] <ssn> how do i restore the mbr with knoppix and doesnt this make things worse?
[09:01] <FloodBot2> chronicpirate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:01] <ssn> chronicpirate: yes?
[09:01] <ipatel> quick ? guys.... any news on 9.04 (meant to be released today)
[09:01] <chronicpirate> St3v3 didn't change his nick
[09:01] <chronicpirate> ssn: um I wasn't really talking to you but I don't know
[09:01] <chronicpirate> don't use vista
[09:02] <chronicpirate> might use windows 7 but xp is my choice for now
[09:02] <kjkjl> what is the return key
[09:02] <ssn> chronicpirate: i have to (you can by me a mac if you want to)
[09:02] <linny> i have rtorrent running in a dedicated server under the user rt the files go to /home/rt/torrents/done/ how can i make it so new files written in here by rtorrent can be deleted via the wtorrent frontend atm i can only delete them via ssh sudo
[09:02] <St3v3> i'm running vista on this machine, but the one i'd dual booting with is XP
[09:02] <Nytrix> was not ubuntu 9.04 suppose to be released on the 22nd of this month?
[09:02] <chronicpirate> ssn: http://www.vistaheads.com/forums/microsoft-public-windows-vista-general/26168-fix-mbr-vista.html
[09:02] <chronicpirate> that should help
[09:03] <Flannel> !party | Nytrix
[09:03] <ssn> chronicpirate: i have no X
[09:03] <chronicpirate> Nytrix: it was the 23rd actually
[09:03] <kjkjl> chronicpirate what is the return key
[09:03] <linny> Nytrix: 23rd it was
[09:03] <ssn> since my knoppix is broken
[09:03] <ssn> cann you tell me what it says?
[09:03] <chronicpirate> no X?
[09:03] <chronicpirate> oh
[09:03] <chronicpirate> lol
[09:03] <chronicpirate> I got ya
[09:03] <ssn> knoppix from usb stick
[09:03] <FloodBot2> chronicpirate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:03] <linny> you guys know what day it is
[09:03] <chronicpirate> you need to use your vista disk
[09:03] <ssn> no X anymore after apt-get upgrade
[09:03] <ssn> hm
[09:03] <linny> ITS ST GEORGES DAY !
[09:04] <kjkjl> ubottu what is  the retun key
[09:04] <linny> :)
[09:04] <kjkjl> ubottu what is the return key
[09:04] <St3v3> is that a serious question?
[09:04] <chronicpirate> or
[09:04] <chronicpirate> Bootrec.exe /FixMbr
[09:04] <chronicpirate> Bootrec.exe /FixBoot
[09:04] <chronicpirate> Bootrec.exe /ScanOs
[09:04] <chronicpirate> Bootrec.exe /RebuildBcd
[09:04] <FloodBot2> chronicpirate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:04] <chronicpirate> +
[09:04] <chronicpirate> sorry meant to pm that all
[09:04] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[09:05] <ssn> chronicpirate: thx. now if i had the vista boot disk at hand :D
[09:05] <Shaboo> Can anyone tell me what time .... kidding, actually I was wondering if anyone could tell me if there's a way to power a usb device on and off from the commandline.  I have a 3g modem that get's stuck and I want to create a script that  re-powerd it when it fies
[09:05] <chronicpirate> lol... yeah you need the repair console
[09:05] <chronicpirate> or whatever
[09:05] <kjkjl> is backspace and return key the same
[09:05] <ZhouYu> i am trying to zip a svn folder... i am using "zip -r test.zip svnfolder" .. but when i download it, it said that Cannot create PHP Cake.tmbundle\Snippets\$html->getCrumbs(GǪ).tmSnippet
[09:05] <maximo> http://www.ubuntu.com/comingsoon
[09:05] <St3v3> kjkjl:
[09:05] <ZhouYu> i meant when i extracted it
[09:05] <St3v3> NO
[09:05] <ssn> i hate windows :D but it is jauntys fault really
[09:05] <ssn> the rc messed up my old install
[09:06] <kjkjl> st3v3 what is the return key
[09:06] <St3v3> i personally like windows... and i like vista... oh god
[09:06] <St3v3> return key=enter key
[09:06] <kj4> kjkjl your nick is one off from my callsign
[09:06] <ipatel> quit
[09:06] <Rapachooie> aloha all
[09:06] <kjkjl> kj4 i dont understand what u said
[09:06] <Rapachooie> probably asked a million times but...
[09:06] <chronicpirate> oh here it comes
[09:06] <chronicpirate> don't ask
[09:06] <ziroday> Rapachooie: join the party in #ubuntu-release-party
[09:06] <kj4> kjkjl my ham callsign is KJ4KJL
[09:07] <Rapachooie> :)
[09:07] <chronicpirate> you're gonna delay the release for an hour
[09:07] <Rapachooie> lol
[09:07] <BladeNBrocade> s/dows/blows/g
[09:07] <Rapachooie> alright ill shuttup and wait like everyone else :D cheers
[09:07] <kjkjl> kj4 does ham mean hamradio
[09:07] <marcusdavidus> hello can i ask aboute jaunty ehere sience today realese?
[09:07] <chronicpirate> oh wait .. that's in release-party
[09:07] <chronicpirate> not here
[09:07] <geophoenix> hello everyone
[09:08] <Z_o-s-o> join #releaseparty
[09:08] <marcusdavidus> chronicpirate:  but i got nasty critical stupid video choppy bug
[09:08] <ttmrichter> Is there any way to tell the Linux kernel to restrict the amount of RAM an individual application can use?  Firefox is leaking memory like a sieve and I'd like to finally just put a hard restriction on what it can take.
[09:08] <geophoenix> ubuntu+1 isn't for the release ?
[09:08] <chronicpirate> try #ubuntu-release-party
[09:08] <Z_o-s-o> ahh thats the one
[09:08] <Z_o-s-o> my bad
[09:08] <chronicpirate> :P
[09:09] <ipatel> quit
[09:11] <ZhouYu> why my zip file change a dot (.) into some weird characters ?
[09:11] <gordonjcp> ttmrichter: ulimit possibly?
[09:12] <timfrost> geophoenix: no, #ubuntu+1 will disappear once jaunty is official, because it is the channel for support of the development release
[09:12] <ipatel> meta-k
[09:12] <alesan> timfrost, so after jaunty they will stop ubuntu development?
[09:13] <celthunder> alesan, no
[09:13] <ttmrichter> gordonjcp: Interesting.  That's a shell built-in, right?  How would I go about invoking it from a desktop icon?
[09:13] <kmkmkjd> what time will 9.4 be released?
[09:13] <ipatel> help
[09:13] <alesan> celthunder, so can you explain timfrost's statement?
[09:13] <rm-f> no hes saying that after it is officially released they would close that room.. as that room is devoted to the development version
[09:13] <ziroday> kmkmkjd: never at this rate, join the part in #ubuntu-release-party
[09:13] <timfrost> try '/j #release-party' (w/o quotes) to join the release party,
[09:14] <ziroday> timfrost: the place is #ubuntu-release-party
[09:14] <alesan> rm-f, that implies ubuntu development will stop
[09:14] <celthunder> alesan, the channel for jaunty will become this one and then there WILL BE no new version yet so they cant have a ubuntu+1 channel when there is no beta out for the next release once a new beta is available they will reopen +1 channel
[09:14] <Flannel> alesan: They stop development for about a month.
[09:14] <etb> hi, anyone used google gadgets? how do i install a .gg gadget/
[09:14] <etb> ?
[09:15] <alesan> Flannel, that explains everything
[09:15] <ziroday> etb: using screenlets or google gadgets.
[09:15] <alesan> Flannel, has Mark announced +2 yet?
[09:15] <timfrost> alesan: thanks.  No wonder #release-party is deserted
[09:15] <Flannel> alesan: Karmic Koala?
[09:15] <alesan> Flannel, I mean K* ?
[09:15] <ziroday> alesan: you mean karmic?
[09:15] <james7493> alesan: Immediately after jaunty gets released there is no development version to support, since nothing would be done yet. +2 is Karmic Koala, it has been announced.
[09:15] <etb> ziroday: yeah using google gadgets. how?
[09:15] <ziroday> etb: I have no idea, never used them
[09:16] <alesan> Flannel, I guess the answer is yes then :) do you have a handy link to the announcement?
[09:16] <Aeosynth> does anyone know what time 9.04 will be released?
[09:16] <ziroday> Aeosynth: never, join the party in #ubuntu-release-party
[09:16] <Flannel> alesan: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000536.html
[09:16] <alesan> thanks
[09:16] <ziroday> alesan: you might also want to read through mark shuttleworths blog
[09:16] <Maximo> Aeosynth: it just say on the website ---> coming soon
[09:18] <Aeosynth> Maximo: exactly. no timestamp.
[09:18] <kmkmkjd> anyone know if 9.4 comes with latest boost libs?
[09:18] <Maximo> Aeosynth: Exactly
[09:18] <Maximo> no time
[09:18] <GutZuWiSSeN> anyone know the system-monitor addon on the right side in this screenshot? http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=3&id=92197&file1=92197-1.jpg&file2=&file3=92197-3.jpg&name=BlackLine2
[09:18] <ziroday> There is no "set time", it will come out when its ready.
[09:19] <ziroday> GutZuWiSSeN: conky
[09:19] <Maximo> Aeosynth: just be patient you not going anywhere...just read the blog for timebeing
[09:19] <GutZuWiSSeN> ziroday: thx
[09:22] <Enissay> Is there a way to change transmission's interface... personalise it?
[09:22] <ziroday> Enissay: no
[09:22] <Enissay> xD.... ok
[09:22] <ziroday> Enissay: but you can use a different bittorrent client if you would prefer. There are a quite a few
[09:23] <mandingoceo> can any1 help me with an issue with my sound card i keep loosing it under 810
[09:23] <chronicpirate> some people like to hate on it cause it uses a lot of memory as it's writen in java
[09:23] <Enissay> zined, I know... i'll try another one
[09:23] <chronicpirate> but azureus/vuze is actually pretty decent.. if you disable a bunch of features and use classic ui
[09:23] <chronicpirate> or you can always run ktorrent or utorrnet in wine
[09:24] <chronicpirate> in fact.. they just releases a osx beta
[09:24] <chronicpirate> that "might" run okay if you can get it to install
[09:24] <chronicpirate> max is just unix
[09:24] <Elika> Hello.  Anyone know of any IRC channels relating to the series .hack// ?
[09:24] <pjfry1> I was just at the 9.04 release party channel but I can't remember the name ... would someone post it for me,
[09:24] <chronicpirate> #ubuntu-release-party
[09:24] <mandingoceo> can any1 help me with an issue with my sound card i keep loosing it under 810
[09:24] <groppo> join #ubuntu-release-party
[09:25] <Elika> Thank you.
[09:25] <fabzor3> mandingoceo: have you tried ununstalling pluseaudio in synaptic?
[09:26] <mandingoceo> no
[09:26] <fabzor3> i find pulseaudio caused problems with my alsa games
[09:26] <fabzor3> so yeah it might be worth a shot
[09:26] <mandingoceo> ill try it
[09:26] <fabzor3> gl
[09:26] <mandingoceo> 1 reboot its there then next its gone
[09:27] <fabzor3> mandingoceo: whats gone?
[09:27] <Elika> I was suggested to the wrong room.  I will have to make one of my own entitled #dothack//room
[09:28] <tool> does anyone have experience with mounting hard drives?
[09:28] <kjkjl> i typed sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel  to get drivers and itis stuck at 49%.what do i do
[09:28] <kraut> moin
[09:28] <dn4> anyone know where I can get a free laptop with ubuntu on it?
[09:28] <_g0tmi1k_> lol
[09:28] <fabzor3> lolololo0l dn4
[09:28] <fabzor3> heaven?
[09:28] <kjkjl> dn4 free laptop???
[09:28] <chronicpirate> kjkjl: try removing it and installing it agian :\
[09:28] <chronicpirate> or just wait
[09:28] <mandingoceo> the sound card phonmon what ever it is reports that its unistalled
[09:28] <francis> how many do u want dn4?
[09:28] <dn4> just 1
[09:29] <francis> lol
[09:29] <un_dave> hi all
[09:29] <anooptp> hai everybody
[09:29] <francis> only 1 free laptop?
[09:29] <fabzor3> might be faulty hardware
[09:29] <dn4> francis, yeah I need one to write up my lab reports on the go
[09:29] <fabzor3> free?!@!?!?!
[09:29] <anooptp> i have a sound problem
[09:29] <francis> lol
[09:29] <un_dave> i'm attempting to update an instance of 7.10 ubuntu, but getting lots of errors when i try to sudo apt-get update
[09:29] <fabzor3> i worked scrubbing the floor for 4 weeks to save up for my laptop
[09:30] <anooptp> pls help me
[09:30] <fabzor3> so good luck getting one for free
[09:30] <anooptp> is anybody there
[09:30] <corinth> !patience
[09:30] <shadeslayer> anooptp: sure
[09:30] <corinth> !ask
[09:31]  * dn4 must assert patience with achieving a laptop without spending money on one
[09:31] <anooptp> shadeslaye i have a sound problem
[09:31] <alphanumeric123> so, jaunty's almost out
[09:31] <un_dave> it seems the servers are givign 404 errors, how can i update them ?
[09:31] <shadeslayer> anom01y: intel HDA?
[09:31] <Flannel> un_dave: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[09:31] <corinth> alphanumeric123: Jaunty won't be out for another week now
[09:32] <alphanumeric123> why?
[09:32] <anooptp> ich5
[09:32] <un_dave> the server i'm attempting to update is currently 7.10
[09:32] <corinth> J/k :-P
[09:32] <mede> hello everyone
[09:32] <un_dave> Flannel: ^
[09:32] <mede> any idea on how to config multi edubuntu server
[09:32] <shadeslayer> um no idea on that one
[09:32] <Flannel> un_dave: 7.10 reached EOL on april 18th.  As far as I'm aware, the archive.ubuntu.com mirror is still up.  You need to upgrade to 8.04 though, since you're not getting any updates.
[09:33] <lizzzzard> dn4: are you writing up your labs report for university? -- maybe they have laptops for students that you can use? my university borrows laptops to students for large projects.
[09:33] <anooptp> shadeslaye. no mute in keyboard,alsa channel mix selected,sound card detected
[09:33] <tool> knowledge on hard drives,.. anyone?
[09:33] <Geoffrey2> I was using gparted, a resize operation didn't work, and now on startup I'm getting the following error message during during the disk check.... fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=187f9392-c391-4723-9251-8ad7505f8f2d'
[09:33] <un_dave> Flannel: i figured i'd apply the 7.10 updates first?
[09:33] <un_dave> Flannel: before i updated it to 8.04
[09:33] <Flannel> un_dave: Yes, you need to be up to date.  Try switching your mirrors to archive.ubuntu.com
[09:33] <Geoffrey2> fsck died with exit status 8
[09:34] <anooptp> shadeslaye  r u tere???
[09:34] <dn4> lizzzzard, yes; and yes they have that here as well
[09:34] <un_dave> Flannel: ok, will try that now
[09:34] <un_dave> brb
[09:34] <mede> any idea on how to config multi edubuntu server
[09:34] <shadeslayer> anooptp: yep
[09:34] <mede> any idea on how to config multi thin clinet server
[09:34] <shadeslayer> anooptp: try the wiki and forums too
[09:34] <rhavenw> hi,
[09:34] <mede> any idea on how to config multi thin client server
[09:35] <rhavenw> can someone point me in the best direction for connecting a pocketpc WM6 to a pc running ubuntu,
[09:36] <un_dave> Flannel: ok, i cant see any options to select the archive sources in the "Software Sources" dialoge
[09:36] <Flannel> un_dave: You may have to manually edit your sources.list
[09:36] <lizzzzard> dn4: that is the only way I can think of to get your hands on a free laptop -- though it would not technically be yours of course. If all else fails, you might want to consider a netbook like the asus eeepc, they are cheaper, but they are ok for simpler jobs like writing things down. And ubuntu runs fine on them with a few (well documented) tweaks.
[09:36] <shadeslayer> anooptp: btw did you try setting everything in the volume mixer to high? PCM and master?
[09:37] <dn4> sweet lizzzzard thanks for the info
[09:37] <un_dave> Flannel: ok, i'm fine with that. could you tell me what lines to add?
[09:37] <Flannel> un_dave: um, well, pastebin it, and we'll take a look.
[09:37] <dn4> lizzzzard, do you know of any tablets that ubuntu runs on nicely?
[09:37] <syntax\> guys, has anyone tried using pidgin to access openfire(xmpp) intranet messaging?
[09:37] <francis> macbook air
[09:37] <francis> :P
[09:38] <syntax\> im so soo lost.
[09:38] <_g0tmi1k_> lost wasnt on last night!
[09:38] <francis> :o
[09:38] <egoist> it was lost
[09:38] <alphanumeric123> anyone got the date for the final jaunty release? or is it like midnight tonight
[09:39] <Flannel> !isitout | alphanumeric123
[09:39] <alphanumeric123> ok
[09:39] <egoist> Well, there is a predetermined time, the 23rd?
[09:39] <alphanumeric123> !isitout | Flannel
[09:39] <lizzzzard> uhh I have not considered a tablet pc, so I don't know any specific model. But if you consider buying one of those be sure to check out the ubuntu forums online to see what problems people are having. sometimes there are also wiki pages for a special type of notebook/tablet/netbook, I know there is one for the eeepc. Just google for the name of the device and ubuntu, that works pretty well for me
[09:40] <kjkjl> chronipirate u around
[09:41] <kjkjl> chronicpirate
[09:41] <lizzzzard> I love how you guys have macros for annoying questions, that sure beats getting unpatient and maybe unfriendly towards users
[09:41] <kjkjl> what is the meaning of ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[09:42] <DaveWM> heh
[09:42] <ikonia> kjkjl: it's re-caching the libarary paths
[09:42] <dn4> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2DC432B13A5CB560
[09:42] <dn4> any ideas on how to get a public key?
[09:42] <DaveWM> what kind of macro's are we talking here?
[09:43] <ikonia> DaveWM: key for what ?
[09:43] <ikonia> DaveWM: sorry
[09:43] <ikonia> dn4: key for what ?
[09:43] <kjkjl> ikonia i had typed sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel and afte several minutes it had showed that message that you explained. does that mean my driver si installed
[09:43] <dn4> The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2DC432B13A5CB560
[09:43] <slytherin> dn4: it depends on which PPA you are using
[09:43] <dn4> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-dev/ppa/ubuntu/
[09:44] <un_dave> Flannel: still there? pastebin is http://pastebin.com/d340b90a6
[09:44] <ikonia> kjkjl: that message has nothing to do with the xorg driver - don't worry about it
[09:45] <ds_creamer> I'm reading the man page but thought I might get a faster answer if I asked here too: What options do I need to call mount with to mount my USB flash drive?
[09:45] <kjkjl> but what about the driver . how do i know its here
[09:45] <ikonia> kjkjl: if you installed the package - it's there
[09:45] <dn4> slytherin, I found out how to get it
[09:46] <slytherin> ds_creamer: USB driver should get mounted automatically
[09:46] <kjkjl> yes now i can change the visual effects to normal . thanks ikonia ,chronicpirate and everyone
[09:47] <slytherin> dn4: check here - https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+archive/ppa
[09:47] <un_dave> Flannel: pastebin is http://pastebin.com/d340b90a6
[09:48] <lizzzzard> dn4: are you completely new to ubuntu?
[09:48] <anooptp> slytherin ihave a problem in sound
[09:48] <dn4> not quite lizzzzard
[09:49] <anooptp> can u help me ?
[09:49] <slytherin> anooptp: I am not expert in sound, but I will try.
[09:49] <anooptp> i had no sound for last 3 day no mute in keyboard,alsa channel mix selected,sound card detected
[09:50] <anooptp> wen i use live cd there is sound
[09:50] <slytherin> anooptp: which version of Ubuntu?
[09:50] <anooptp> ubuntu 8
[09:51] <Hetor> anooptp: 8.10 or 9.04?
[09:51] <syntax\> neone here used openfire+pidgin?
[09:51] <Hetor> 8.04*
[09:51] <kjelle> Hello. How easy is it to change the Ubuntyu ISO image (let's say for Hardy) and include some of my own packages into the .ISO file, and having them automatically installed in the installer?
[09:51] <anooptp> 8.10
[09:51] <Hetor> kjelle: I'm interested in this too
[09:52] <anooptp> Hetor	 8.10
[09:52] <kjelle> Hetor: I know it's easy to change the ISO file
[09:52] <kjelle> Hetor: but I would like to know where on the ISO do i change, so I can include  my own packages (without having to study the entire ISO myself)
[09:52] <lizzzzard> anooptp: one of my pcs hat something like this, one of the alsa channels that are not in the standard view was muted, and master did not change anything. have you tried selecting other channels? master/pcm and such? one of those worked for me.
[09:52] <Ivru> Hi there
[09:53] <lizzzzard> anooptp: mine is a sony laptop, which seemed to have that problem sometimes.
[09:53] <anooptp> slytheri  r u tere ?
[09:53] <Hetor> I'd like to include own packages in installation CD too :P
[09:53] <irmandos> Hetor:  ==> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html
[09:54] <irmandos> kjelle: ==> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html
[09:54] <anooptp> lizzzzard  itried every thing master pcm.....
[09:54] <Ivru> I've got a script (with tail -f) that I launch using an init.d. I want my script to keep running. To be sure of that, I use a cron that launch my init.d every minutes (if is script is already runing, then the init.d won't start it again). Is there another way (better way) to do this ?
[09:55] <kjelle> irmandos: thanks
[09:55] <mikebeecham> can anyone tell me if Jaunty Jackal changed the way networking takes place?  I've been using GVFS until recently, but now I am using Jackal, it seems to be acting wierd all the time
[09:55] <anooptp> were i get a solution?
[09:56] <mikebeecham> and now I have three icons for my mac mini...I only have 1 mac mini!
[09:56] <anooptp> lizzzzard	a  wen i use live cd there is sound
[09:56] <lizzzzard> anooptp: died you try searching ubuntu forums and wiki pages? maybe if you are not english/american, also try those in your language?
[09:56] <fakih> h
[09:57] <Keypad> I just deleted over 500000 files from the trash around 60 gb worth, and its stuck on a XML file. what should I do ?
[09:57] <Dolo> So, I'm using Ubuntu (Gnome) on an Intel GMA945 graphics card, output to a 24" monitor (1920x1200) - the refresh is aweful, theres a lot of tearing etc.  Is this just 'cause the graphics card is gutless (it really is..), or is there a way to speed it up (e.g. proprietary drivers etc?)
[09:58] <kjelle> Hetor: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html#preseed-other <- seems to be the spot!
[09:58] <anooptp> lizzzzard sorry, i am new in upuntu
[09:58] <francis> ubantu!
[09:59] <anooptp> p	lizzzzard   bye
[10:01] <lizzzzard> anooptp: yeah i've been new just some time ago -- i can only say forums and wiki help a lot
[10:01] <anooptp> lizzzzard  ok bye, thaks alot
[10:02] <thor> does 9.4 comes with the latest boost version?
[10:04] <Neil3> yahay 9.04 today B-)
[10:05] <flavetius> ciaoooooooooooooooooooooooo
[10:05] <flavetius> ciao ragazzi
[10:05] <flavetius> come faccio a fare l'automount di una partizione all'avvio
[10:06] <Jordan_U> Dolo, What version of Ubuntu?
[10:06] <flavetius> 9.10
[10:06] <flavetius> 8.10
[10:07] <flavetius> aiuto
[10:07] <flavetius> ff
[10:07] <Master-Mind> Hello there, someone knows where to get the new ubuntu 9.04 there was supposed to be released to day :) ?
[10:07] <flavetius> c
[10:08] <Light-> Master-Mind, join #ubuntu-release-party
[10:08] <haggisbasheruk> no... another bunny dead
[10:08] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi all. My girlfriend is trying to bypass a proxy and she wants to use ssh as a socks proxy, so she only needs to reach the ssh server on port 80 that I setup on my pc. She used corkscrew and then ssh -D over it, but firefox will hang on the DNS search.
[10:08] <irmandos> !isitout | Master-Mind
[10:08] <flavetius> r
[10:08] <lizzzzard> flavetius: http://ciaolinux.myblog.it/archive/2008/06/20/mount-automatico-delle-partizioni-all-avvio.html <- have you tried this?
[10:08] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Do you know whether socks should also be used in firefox for dns queries?
[10:08] <flavetius> thank you
[10:09] <lizzzzard> google is your friend ;)
[10:09] <ganesh> when ll 9.04 be released..?its april 23rd today..
[10:09] <lizzzzard> !sitout | ganesh
[10:09] <lizzzzard> !isitout | ganesh
[10:12] <dimedo> i cannot encrypt anything with gnupg anymore as it seems my own public key can no longer be found, but i should have both a private and a public key. any ideas? is it possible to re-generate a public key from the private key?
[10:13] <Plasticism> join #lisp
[10:13] <dexter47> hello
[10:14] <dexter47> is this where i can get a little help with some isa net card? :-(
[10:14] <Le-Chuck_ITA> dimedo: do not think so
[10:14] <dexter47> hi
[10:14] <Le-Chuck_ITA> dimedo: forget it, that's just theory :) in fact I don't know
[10:15] <drinkycrow> has anyone gotten sound to work in doom 3 with intrepid?
[10:15] <dexter47> do you have any idea where i can get some help with this?
[10:15] <blame> Hi. There's no estimated time for the 9.04 release today?
[10:15] <rumpel> now + x hours
[10:15] <zaggynl> !isitout | blame
[10:15] <Canaen> is it out yet?
[10:15] <coffeeaddict221> dexter47: ask away
[10:16] <dexter47> excuse me?
[10:16] <coffeeaddict221> whats the question?
[10:16] <zaggynl> !ask | dexter47
[10:17] <joaopinto> !clone
[10:17] <mib_qr03ie> in how many hours jaunty will be released?
[10:18] <girdy> hey i have really slow wifi internet even with ipv6 blacklisted. anyone else have this?
[10:18] <linny> mib_qr03ie: how long is a piece of string
[10:18] <shapeshed_> anyone have experience of creating screencasts in ubuntu? istanbul, recordmydesktop or xvidcap?
[10:18] <mib_qr03ie> linny: ?
[10:18] <d6chung> mib_qr03ie: Join #ubuntu-release-party.
[10:18] <bouma> im trying to get java working in firefox.. ive followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java .. but it still doesnt work in firefox
[10:19] <bouma> what package do i need ?
[10:19] <d6chung> bouma: For me, installing ubuntu-restricted-extras always did that for me.
[10:20] <girdy> was there an update to jaunty recently that broke the ath9k wireless drivers?
[10:20] <dexter47> i have an ISA IntelExpress 10, but ubuntu' won't even detect it. i want to make an internet connection sharing, so i will need 2 cards... this ISA, i can't use if ubuntu won't detect it. windows does detect it, and i can use it. so it works. any ideas?
[10:20] <loafers> I installed openbox on debian base without a desktop environment.  I installed xorg and setup my .xinitrc file, but debian does not startx everytime it boots, how do i fix this?
[10:20] <vladimir_> how to install picasa ? i add mediubuntu repository but i don't have picasa there
[10:20] <girdy> dexter: whatever they say, don't use ndiswrapper. it is the worst written driver on the planet
[10:21] <bouma> d6chung: ive got that installed.. should i reinstall it ?
[10:21] <coffeeaddict221> dexter47: does it show up on lshw?
[10:21] <linny> vladimir_: get it from http://picasa.google.co.uk/
[10:21] <drinkycrow> i get sound in everything except doom 3, i've tried setting it to oss/alsa and running aoss doom 3
[10:21] <vladimir_> ok, thanks linny
[10:21] <dexter47> girdy: ok... i'm not verry experienced, but i can handle this with some working ideas
[10:21] <DaveCo> anyone want any artwork?
[10:21] <bouma> can anyone help me get javaing working in firefox, ive got java-sun-6 installed.. and the ubuntu-restricted-plugins
[10:21] <dexter47> i tried some ubuntu forums, no luck
[10:22] <drinkycrow> my card is an audigy 2
[10:22] <girdy> dexter47: sorry just thought i would save you the hassle
[10:22] <ZiggiZah> hello all! has 9.04 release yet? thoughts?
[10:22] <girdy> dexter47: what was your card again/
[10:22] <zaggynl> !isitout | ZiggiZah
[10:22] <loafers> bouma, get the IcedTea java plugin
[10:22] <dexter47> girdy: lshw? :D
[10:22] <Dudeface> be patient
[10:23] <dexter47> what that?
[10:23] <girdy> yeah post that for me
[10:23] <Mr_Kaizer> s3r3n1t7, are you around by any chance?
[10:23] <bouma> loafers: im using 64bit ubuntu. is icetea still the go? .. cant i use a sun jre ? is ice tea a opensource jre ?
[10:23] <ZiggiZah> thnx ubottu
[10:24] <coffeeaddict221> in a terminal.  It lists the hardware on your machine, will pick up if your card is recognised by Linux (even if a driver isn't present).
[10:24] <dexter47> girdy: i'm on my bro's pc, so it doesn't have isa support. i'll run the live cd from my pc, i'll get back to you soon
[10:24] <girdy> k
[10:24] <girdy> why is my CPU throttling at 100% all the time?
[10:24] <dexter47> girdy: thanks
[10:25] <loafers> bouma, I am not qualified to say, but I had the exact same problem as you and everything worked fine after installing IcedTea.  And I think it is opensource, the description says its a temporary fork of OpenJDK
[10:25] <girdy> since an update in jaunty, i have the slowest wireless imaginable, no power-manager, and terrible battery life
[10:25] <Anarkist> lol
[10:25] <bovv> I need to find where the option for disabling Compviz is... what is the command-line command for getting to it?  (even if it opens the window, that's fine...)
[10:25] <girdy> does anyone have any tips on how to speed up internet using ath9k drivers?
[10:25] <Anarkist> no wonder I was hesitatnt about upgrading
[10:25] <slytherin> girdy: what do you mean by no power-manager?
[10:25] <ChrisOnFacebook> Hi
[10:26] <slytherin> bovv: I don't know command line. DOn't you have access to GUI?
[10:26] <girdy> slytherin: power manager is running, but my cpu is always at 100%
[10:26] <girdy> slytherin: regardless of load
[10:26] <girdy> slytherin: meaning the battery life on my laptop is like 30 minutes
[10:26] <slytherin> girdy: what has power manager got to do with CPU being at 100%. Looks like some process is eating CPU.
[10:26] <ChrisOnFacebook> Does anybody can help me to set a conenction to a MySQL over SSH on a OpenSolaris server (Joyent) ?
[10:27] <bouma> loafers: ok surely you are joking.. ive got sun java 6 .. and also 5 aka 1.5 cause i need it for the intel idb.. which works.. but im still unable to get firefox java working
[10:27] <bouma> and i must say the web help is useless
[10:27] <girdy> slytherin: if you do sudo apt-get install powertop
[10:27] <girdy> slytherin: powertop shows you what mode your CPU is in.
[10:28] <owner> When is it coming ?
[10:28] <girdy> slytherin: usually with nothing running, power-manager should "step down" the CPU frequency to save on battery
[10:28] <Mr_Kaizer> I'm still having some issues with the desktop on my 8,10. After it's done booting, and I've logged on, the desktop won't apear most of the time, I just get the cream colored background. The times it does work, the screen first turns black with red flickering stripes, then the panels apear (or, the white outlines of them atleast). The icons gradualy apear, after about 10-15 min they're all there. Anyone have any suggestions?
[10:28] <slytherin> girdy: what does output of 'top' command tell you? which process is eating CPU?
[10:28] <slytherin> girdy: I don't believe power-manager does that.
[10:28] <bovv> slytherin: yeah, but I cannot find the option... :-(
[10:28] <girdy> slytherin: thank you soooo much
[10:29] <dn4> rm: cannot remove `Vagrant Records': Read-only file system
[10:29] <bovv> slytherin: idea... can you open the option and tell me what process is running?
[10:29] <girdy> slytherin: i had BOINC running in the background and i didn't even know it
[10:29] <girdy> slytherin: thanks man!
[10:29] <slytherin> bovv: System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects
[10:29] <dn4> how do I remove something on a Read-only file system
[10:29] <loafers> bouma, I'm not joking.  Like I said, I had the EXACT same problem as you did and was extremely annoyed.  So I clicked the icon that appears when you have insufficient requirements to run the applet and firefox recommended icedtea as the plugin to install and then it worked.  as for why java 6 runtime won't run the applets on firefox i am still just as clueless as you are.
[10:29] <slytherin> dn4: you can't
[10:29] <wlodi> Hi lads, I want to backup a 10GB directory. How can I overcome the tar 2GB limit?
[10:29] <dn4> slytherin, how do I re mount it as a file system where I can
[10:29] <bovv> slytherin: It should be there, but I am running in Japanese... and the option is MISSING.
[10:30] <bouma>  is this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1102050, seriously necessary ??
[10:30] <bouma> surely someone has automated this
[10:31] <slytherin> bovv: that shouldn't be the case.
[10:31] <bouma> is it illegal to repackage suns 64bit java from a binary installer ??
[10:31] <bouma> i dont understand
[10:31] <bovv> slytherin: it is.
[10:31] <drone1> slytherin: have you checked the /etc/fstab file?
[10:31] <slytherin> dn4: which file system is read only?
[10:31] <joaopinto> bouma, that procedure is not required  on the recent releases
[10:31] <dn4> slytherin, when jaunty auto mounts my usb drive the file system is vfat
[10:32] <dn4> it automounts it as read only
[10:32] <bovv> slytherin: so...  could you do the "System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects" and tell me what it is running, please?
[10:32] <bouma> joaopinto: can i simply apt-get a particular package ?
[10:32] <joaopinto> bouma, yes, the java plugin package
[10:32] <slytherin> dn4: surprising, never had that problem. Check on #ubuntu+1 if anyone else is facing same problem
[10:33] <slytherin> bouma: how about sun-java6-plugins
[10:33] <slytherin> sun-java6-plugin (no s at the end)
[10:33] <drone1> slytherin: i believe the solution for your problem is here
[10:33] <drone1> MAN mount
[10:34] <slytherin> drone1: I am not the one having problem. It is dn4
[10:34] <drone1>  sorry lol
[10:34] <girdy> how can i tell what process is eating up all my network bandwith?
[10:34] <drone1> well dn4 check out MAN mount
[10:35] <girdy> is there a command in terminal i can type that will list processes by network usage?
[10:35] <drone1> it should guide you into mounting filesystems
[10:35] <Ivru> netstat girdy
[10:35] <drone1> netstat
[10:35] <Ivru> good name for network stat isn't it ?
[10:35] <X3> guys is it me or version 9,04 is due to be released today
[10:35] <drone1> lol
[10:35] <sidewalk> Ivru: topic
[10:35] <joaopinto> girdy, iptraf is a good tool to identify bandwidth usage
[10:36] <bovv> slytherin: I understand that it doesn't make sense to you, but this config is what it is... I still need to disable Compviz... and the option is not visible.  Not my fault tha somebody packaged things this way.  But I really do need to disable Compviz and it would be really helpful if somebody usijng an English locale would help out with only the process program name so I came fix things here.
[10:36] <girdy> joaopinto: is iptraf installed by default?
[10:36] <Ivru> sidewalk: it's X3 not me
[10:36] <error404notfound> i have just installed swat on my hardy server, i can't access it either locally or remotely by going localhost:901 or host-name-here:901 or ip-here:901
[10:36] <joaopinto> girdy, no
[10:37] <X3> sorry missed that last line on topic
[10:37] <X3> though website news is set for the 23rd
[10:37] <Ivru> ﻿I've got a script (with tail -f) that I launch using an init.d. I want my script to keep running. To be sure of that, I use a cron that launch my init.d every minutes (if is script is already runing, then the init.d won't start it again). Is there another way (better way) to do this ?
[10:38] <girdy> when jaunty is "officially" released in here in a few hours, will there just be one final update for us beta users?
[10:38] <bovv> ok...
[10:39] <error404notfound> okay, got it working with xinetd
[10:39] <slytherin> bovv: I wish I could help, but I do not know the command line
[10:39] <slytherin> girdy: are you using beta or RC?
[10:40] <bovv> slytherin: OK... no prob... I will tell you the command you need to type. (I'm old school)
[10:40] <girdy> slytherin: how do i tell? do i just run uname -r?
[10:40] <unop> girdy, perhaps, perhaps not - you'll have to check then
[10:40] <mrwes> lsb_release -rd
[10:40] <joaopinto> !beta | girdy
[10:40] <malik__> hi all
[10:41] <girdy> !beta: event not found
[10:41] <bovv> slytherin: FIRST, open up that Compviz thing.
[10:41] <anish> anyone had any bad experiences with apt-p2p ?
[10:41] <bovv> slytherin: SECOND, open up a gnome-terminal
[10:41] <henninge_> anybody here affected by bug 359392?
[10:41] <slytherin> anish: a bit
[10:42] <malik__> i have two network interface on my machine. one is the Ethernete NIC and the other one is USB NIC  which connects to my laptop through a USB data cable. i want to bridge them both so that i can use the internet on my laptop also, how cn i do this in ubuntu jaunty?
[10:42] <sandralade> hi, jaunty jackalope is out already?
[10:42] <slytherin> anish: felt it was slow than usual method
[10:42] <bouma> loafers: icetea installed but it doesnt get gokgs.com to work. .. so i guess i need that cacao-oj6-jre-headless
[10:42] <Yasser> wheres ubuntu 9.04?
[10:42] <bovv> slytherin: THIRD, in the terminal type the following on the command line: ps -ef
[10:42] <anish> damn, i thought it would be faster,besides just reducing load
[10:42] <bovv> slytherin: The last new lines should contain the Compviz thingy.
[10:42] <Yasser> wheres ubuntu 9.04? its alreay 3.12pm thursday 23rd
[10:43] <bouma> joaopinto: do you know the name of the firefox java plugin ? .. cause its pretty difficult to find with just keyword searching on java firefox
[10:43] <sandralade> i think 9.04 is not yet available
[10:43] <bovv> slytherin: That's it... got it?
[10:43] <unop> !inetsharing | malik__
[10:43] <slytherin> malik__: an easy way would be to install a proxy server (squid) on machine that has internet connection, assign static IP address on both end of USB cable and then use the proxy address on the machine that needs internet address.
[10:43] <Yasser> bovv, but its already thursday 23rd right?
[10:43] <Vinceman> hi, what is a fakeroot environment good for?
[10:43] <slytherin> bovv: yes got it
[10:43] <girdy>  when i try to launch sudo ifconfig wlan0 up i get siocsifflags: input/output error. ???
[10:43] <dn4>  sudo chown -R dn4
[10:43] <joaopinto> boubbin, I don't remember it right now
 chown: missing operand after `dn4'
[10:43] <loafers> bouma, interesting you situation is even more similar to mine as I play on gokgs as well O_O I remember installing all these java files and nothing ended up working.  i did it at school on a wireless and i got disconnected often so maybe you have some broken packages.  also you need to have open jdk installed as well i believe hope this helps :/
[10:44] <malik__> hmm... ok
[10:44] <girdy> all i wanna do is disable and then renable my wireless
[10:44] <malik__> and second question.
[10:44] <slytherin> bouma: did you try sun-java6-plugin?
[10:44] <bouma> loafers: heh.. i need a game... :P
[10:44] <unop> Vinceman, building packages mainly - where you need to set permissions on files being included into the package
[10:44] <sandralade> 23th is not yet over
[10:44] <malik__> do we have a fix of Synergy server and client problem in ubuntu Jaunty  by now??
[10:44] <loafers> bouma, and btw there are issues with gokgs on ubuntu such as sound
[10:44] <adnc> hello, what time can we expect the new ubuntu release?
[10:44] <sandralade> idk
[10:44] <slytherin> malik__: it depends on many things
[10:45] <unop> !9.04 > adnc
[10:45] <malik__> because in ubuntu jaunty if its a synergy client the mouse gets stucked in the top left corner
[10:45] <girdy> is there a way to recycle the wireless drivers or am i already using the correct command
[10:45] <omer666> hi
[10:45] <slytherin> why are we having so much traffic about jaunty on this channel?
[10:45] <unop> slytherin, it's to be released today
[10:46] <loafers> bouma, if you have gokgs running while you listen to music depending on which one you started first, the one opened last will not work.  there is a workaround to this problem, but you ened to email the admins to help you out (i forgot the solution)
[10:46] <iamleneko> hi everybody
[10:46] <bouma> loafers: ive used it before with no problems
[10:46] <lizzzzard> because nobody knows about #ubuntu-release-party and #ubuntu+1
[10:46] <bouma> loafers: with ubuntu im pretty sure
[10:46] <bovv> slytherin: what did the "ps" show?
[10:46] <slytherin> unop: but it is not released today
[10:46] <slytherin> bovv: I am not using compiz. :-)
[10:46] <adnc> unop: but this doesn't tell me the hour
[10:46] <bouma> slytherin: ive tried to sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin, but there is no install candidate
[10:46] <girdy> anyone know the command to restart wireless drivers?
 : many things do u mean the synergy client and server on ubuntu jaunty depends on many things?
[10:47] <unop> adnc, /join #ubuntu+1
[10:47] <bovv> slytherin: you don't need to be... you do have the option in your menu don't you?
[10:47] <lizzzzard> slytherin: but the release schedule says so, so people are nervous
[10:47] <bouma> slytherin: it actually says its not avail but its refered to by another package
[10:47] <iamleneko> how do i make some tar.gz backup of a folder choosing only one filetype to add inside ?
[10:47] <bovv> Could ANYBODY do a "System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects" and tell me what is the name of the program running, please?
[10:47] <bouma> slytherin: i can pastebin th ermsg
[10:47] <david9348> hello
[10:47] <david9348> when will 9.04 be released?
[10:47] <Yasser> in how many minutes can i expect to download ubuntu jaunty? im waitin in a cafe just to dlownload it!!!!!!!!!
[10:47] <girdy> appearance preferences
[10:47] <unop> iamleneko,   tar czvf  foo.tgz *.txt
[10:47] <slytherin> bouma: then your best bet is icedtea6-plugin
[10:47] <X3> girdy theres is a pocess manager the one that is using most memory will be the culprit
[10:48] <unop> iamleneko,  or better.  tar czvf  foo.tgz /path/to/*.txt
[10:48] <X3> wtf sorry lol
[10:48] <edeca> Yasser: Check the topic.
[10:48] <omer666> I'm installing Ubuntu on a friend's PC and he has an Intel GM965/GL960 graphic card, everytime I launch an OpenGL application under Intrepid I get plenty of graphical bugs
[10:48] <Nytrix> Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'Humanity to others', or 'I am what I am because of who we all are'. The Ubuntu distribution brings the spirit of Ubuntu to the software world.
[10:48] <iamleneko> unop, it will do this recursivly ?
[10:48] <lizzzzard> !isitout | Yasser
[10:48] <bovv> slytherin: just do a "System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects" and tell me what is the name of the program running, please?
[10:48] <omer666> I updated the drivers with ppa launchpad repos
[10:48] <anish> why the infinite recursion i wonder http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/
[10:48] <omer666> now it works but it is sooooo slow....
[10:49] <unop> iamleneko, no, just one level.. you'll need to use find to do this recursively
[10:49] <omer666> anyone has got an idea on how to make that GC work ?
[10:49] <bovv> slytherin: Now I am not even asking you about Compviz.
[10:49] <chronicpirate> now I do
[10:50] <chronicpirate> >:o
[10:50] <breakmyfall> Hey guys, when is ubuntu 9.04 gonna be out
[10:50] <iamleneko> unop, something like this ? find /some/folder -iname *.php | tar cvfz somefile.tar.gz ?
[10:50] <breakmyfall> ?
[10:50] <chronicpirate> stupid intenet just added like 3 days to my idlerpg
[10:50] <breakmyfall> i am excited
[10:50] <sandralade> 8-)
[10:50] <lizzzzard> bovv: slytherin has left the building
[10:50]  * chronicpirate kicks breakmyfall in the stomach
[10:50] <breakmyfall> an hour or two ?
[10:50] <girdy> i really don't understand why there is no centralized driver management app
[10:50] <chronicpirate> sorry man
[10:50] <chronicpirate> that was uncalled for
[10:50] <breakmyfall> chronicpirate: that hurts
[10:50] <lizzzzard> !isitout | breakmyfall
[10:50] <bovv> Could ANYBODY do a "System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects" and tell me what is the name of the program running, please?
[10:50] <bovv> Could ANYBODY do a "System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects" and tell me what is the name of the program running, please?
[10:51] <chronicpirate> you mean fusion?
[10:51] <unop> iamleneko,  err no.   find /some/dir  -name "*.php" -exec tar archive.tgz -c {} \;   # i haven't tested this, you might need to have archive.tgz created already first.
[10:51] <girdy> bovv: the name of hte program is appearance preferences
[10:51] <breakmyfall> ubottu: thnx
[10:51] <iamleneko> unop
[10:51] <iamleneko> thanks
[10:51] <KingWilliam> hi people, I have a dual screen setup and want to enable compiz. Is this possible?
[10:51] <iamleneko> i give it a try
[10:51] <drinkycrow> is it possible to have sound work in doom 3?
[10:51] <drinkycrow> or just at all
[10:52] <girdy> does anyone know if the noveau driver is ready for the intel GM945 chipset?
[10:52] <girdy> or ready period? it broke on every machine i tried it on
[10:52] <inktvis75> gridy: it works stable on my dell d830
[10:53] <inktvis75> girdy i mean ;)
[10:53] <iamleneko> girdy, strange thing is that i succeed 1 time and only one to boot the ubuntu cd with this gm945hd chipset
[10:53] <wlodi> I want to backup a 10GB directory. How can I overcome the tar 2GB limit?
[10:53] <nukedclx> when 9.04 release?
[10:53] <Ivru> now
[10:53] <chronicpirate> fusion
[10:53] <girdy> iamlneko: it just shows how consistent the driver is....
[10:53] <Ivru> wlodi: you don't want to split it ?
[10:53] <unop> wlodi, tar doesn't have a 2GB limit .. but your filesystem might have this .. FAT especially
[10:53] <nukedclx> is available from mirrors?
[10:53] <n0cturnal> nukedclx: read ropic?
[10:53] <iamleneko> and the other times it have freeze just before starting X
[10:54] <NTAuthority> hi
[10:54] <n0cturnal> *topic
[10:54] <inktvis75> dell D830: GM965
[10:54] <Mr_Kaizer> !isitout | nukedclx
[10:54] <girdy> how do i install the noveau driver? i tried it a while back and it failed. what is the command?
[10:54] <wlodi> Ivru: I'll guess I have to
[10:54] <bovv> girdy: do you mean: gnome-appearance-properties?  Thanks.
[10:54] <nukedclx> thanks
[10:54] <wlodi> unop: are you sure about that?
[10:54] <unop> wlodi, yes
[10:54] <girdy> bovv: i was looking at the title of the window. it said appearance properties
[10:55] <wlodi> unop: ok, thx
[10:55] <KingWilliam> I have a dual screen setup and want to enable compiz. Is this possible?
[10:55] <KingWilliam> anyone?
[10:55] <bovv> girdy: thanks... that was a good hint.
[10:56] <r2r4> hello ! where to find the source of /lib/ld-linux.so.2 ?
[10:56] <chronicpirate> it won't just work if you setup ubuntu in general to use dual?
[10:56] <girdy> bovv: yeah np
[10:56] <KingWilliam> chronicpirate, I hope it does :Pp
[10:56] <chronicpirate> I would think so
[10:56] <Mr_Kaizer> What's the best and/or easiest way to reinstall Ubuntu?
[10:56] <Mr_Kaizer> Just use the Live CD and hit install?=
[10:56] <chronicpirate> Mr_Kaizer: just reinstall
[10:56] <iceroot> Mr_Kaizer: yes
[10:57] <darrenlooby> hi all
[10:57] <darrenlooby> how do I a) find out what sound cards I have installed and b) get the drivers for them?
[10:57] <natrixnatrix89> Hi. Where can I change my network workgroup on intrepid?
[10:57] <dexter47> girdy are you still here?
[10:57] <girdy> yeah
[10:57] <Mr_Kaizer> That screwed my language settings up last time, had a nice mix between English, Norwegian, and lately, Chinese
[10:57] <dexter47> sry
[10:57] <dexter47> :D
[10:57] <dexter47> ok... what was that command again?
[10:58] <lizzzzard> Mr_Kaizer: a clean new install screwed up your language settings?
[10:58] <tigerwolf> darrenlooby: the command lspci is a good command to get a list of PCI devices
[10:58] <erkuserdem> hi everyone i wanna ask a question im using ubuntu 810 and i write the code  ' sudo apt-get install kubuntu'    now  whic version of kde im downloading ?  :D
[10:59] <dexter47> girdy?
[10:59] <tigerwolf> erkuserdem: why do you want to know the version you are downloading?
[10:59] <darrenlooby> tigerwolf, thanks - that'll get me started
[10:59] <girdy> dexter47: yeah i'm still here. why do you ask?
[10:59] <erkuserdem> kde 3  kde4  kde4.1  or  4.2   which one i keen on :)
[10:59] <girdy> sorry i'm just multitasking
[10:59] <dexter47> it's ok
[11:00] <dexter47> i asked what was that command again?
[11:00] <iamleneko> this website kickass : http://www.commandlinefu.com
[11:00] <Mr_Kaizer> lizzzzard: It seems that way. First time I installed it (overwriting the existing Windows XP on the harddisc), the language was just fine (Norwegian). But after I reinstalled ut using the same Live CD, doing things the exact same way as last time, it became a mix between English and Norwegian.
[11:00] <toan> help me! when i start computer prombt grub appear and i don't come in system.
[11:00] <dexter47> girdy:﻿ i asked what was that command again?
[11:00] <Mr_Kaizer> lizzzzard: The panels were in English, but the menues on the panels were in Norwegian :P
[11:01] <lizzzzard> sounds funny
[11:01] <unop> erkuserdem,  apt-cache policy kubuntu-desktop   or  apt-cache rdepends kubuntu-desktop # should give you an indication
[11:01] <X3> toan try recovery
[11:01] <girdy> dexter47: sorry which command? i asked what the command was to install the noveau driver
[11:01] <inktvis75> toan: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/  :-)
[11:01] <Falstaf> what is the command after alt-F2 to upgrade to 9.04?
[11:01] <lizzzzard> toan: try using the livecd to fix your system.
[11:01] <girdy> dexter47: sorry man its 6 in the morning lol
[11:01] <Mr_Kaizer> lizzzzard: Aye, and now my desktop won't load. Either just a cream colored screen, or it goes black with flickering red stripes.
[11:01] <matisse> hi
[11:02] <tigerwolf> erkuserdem: it will most likely be a recent relese - possible 4.1 - im unsure as to why its a bit deal - if you install it you can find out then
[11:02] <matisse> before a dist-upgrade should be a normal upgrade?
[11:02] <lizzzzard> Mr_Kaizer: have you tried restarting x from the console?
[11:02] <girdy> dexter47; i did sudo ifconfig wlan0 up and got "input/output error"
[11:02] <toan> error because i upgrade system
[11:03] <erkuserdem> tigerwolf you are right, and unop thanks also
[11:03] <Mr_Kaizer> lizzzzard: I don't think so. I've only been using Ubuntu since Monday, so I'm rather noobish.
[11:03] <unop> erkuserdem,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/kubuntu-desktop
[11:03] <X3> well then dont upgrade do a fresh reintall
[11:03] <dexter47> girdy: you asked me to type a command and show you what is printed on the screen. and about that driver, where do i get it from? does apt-get gives me that driver?
[11:03] <girdy> lspci
[11:03] <isak_> Anybody know why i ant download 9.04 yet...it is the 23 now=)
[11:03] <chronicpirate> this is going to be fun to remember (l)unix commands
[11:03] <ikonia> isak_: it's not the end of the 23rd yet
[11:03] <anish> lunix ?
[11:03] <chronicpirate> haven't use it in a while
[11:03] <lizzzzard> toan it sounds like your bootrecord is broken. this could be fixed by reinstalling grub: google "fix grub bootloader"
[11:04] <ikonia> isak_: jaunty discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[11:04] <isak_> isnt it?
[11:04] <isak_> aha ok sorry
[11:04] <Mr_Kaizer> !isitout | isak_
[11:04] <girdy> dexter47: lspci shows you what hardware you have
[11:04] <chronicpirate> as in boy(s)
[11:04] <dexter47> girdy: something about lh... idk... i had a problem with an isa net card... in case you fogot :D
[11:04] <chronicpirate> but like (L)inux
[11:04] <chronicpirate> er wait
[11:04] <chronicpirate> dman
[11:04] <toan> thank you
[11:04] <chronicpirate> that didn't work right
[11:04] <erkuserdem> okay unop thanks .
[11:04] <FloodBot2> chronicpirate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:04] <girdy> dexter47: first i need to know what kind of card it is
[11:04] <erkuserdem> ;)
[11:04] <natrixnatrix89> Hi. Where can I change my network workgroup on intrepid?
[11:04] <Falstaf> chronicpirate what do type after alt
[11:04] <anish> :)
[11:04] <lizzzzard> Mr_Kaizer: can you get to a console via ctrl+alt+f1?
[11:04] <girdy> dexter47: do you know by chance what the card is called?
[11:04] <chronicpirate> well linux/unix commands
[11:04] <chronicpirate> linux sorta has unix in it
[11:04] <dexter47> i sayd "IntelExpress 10 ISAPNP" i think
[11:05] <Mr_Kaizer> lizzzzard: Yes, everything works up until the desktop is supposed to load.
[11:05] <girdy> dexter47: if you don't, typing lspci in terminal will give you a big list of hardware devices
[11:05] <Falstaf> chronicpirate -- what do I type after alt-f2 to upgrade the OS??
[11:05] <AdvoWork> is it possible to search for certain text within a folder? ie the text index.php within a folder called development?
[11:05] <dexter47> girdy: i'll do that now
[11:05] <dexter47> girdy: but is an ISA :(
[11:05] <Mr_Kaizer> lizzzzard: The desktop even loaded fine for the first 6 or so reboots.
[11:05] <unop> AdvoWork, use grep
[11:06] <Mr_Kaizer> lizzzzard: Gotta run, bbl
[11:06] <chronicpirate> umm crap I don't remember those. maybe apt-get update?
[11:06] <unop> AdvoWork,  grep search_word development/*
[11:06] <chronicpirate> It might not use apt i dont' rmember
[11:06] <chronicpirate> then upgrade
[11:06] <antilus> the new Ubuntu 9.04 (I guess RC-version since I typed alt+ f2) sucks so extremely hard! They've removed the "CTRL+ALT+Backspace" and the performance on my laptop equals Vista!
[11:06] <girdy> dexter47: sorry this may be going beyond my knowledge of computers. what is ISA?
[11:06] <chronicpirate> i know it's update and upgrade but maybe not apt
[11:06] <antilus> if it doesn't get better I'm gonna stay with 8.10..
[11:06] <dexter47> ISA was used before PCI
[11:07] <ordinareez> hello, is there a channel for ubuntu gamer?
[11:07] <omer666> So I found why my GMA was so slow
[11:07] <chronicpirate> #ubuntu-games ?
[11:07] <chronicpirate> myabde
[11:07] <omer666> but now I've got graphical bugs again
[11:07] <AdvoWork> unop, will that search .gz's aswell?
[11:07] <chronicpirate> nope
[11:07] <chronicpirate> try /list
[11:07] <chronicpirate> see if there is one
[11:07] <omer666> where does it come from ?
[11:07] <X3> ISA is nothing
[11:07] <lizzzzard> antilus: you are free to do so. also if you are running a intel graphics chipset on your laptop, the problem is known and being worked on. you can change the ctrl+alt+backspace thing back if you want to
[11:07] <chronicpirate> linux-games would be likey
[11:08] <byflash> hey anyone here pro @ psp hacking?
[11:08] <unop> AdvoWork,  nope .. only uncompressed non-binary files
[11:08] <X3> byflash yea so
[11:08] <girdy> god i really wish i had my VISTA cd
[11:08] <byflash> oh
[11:08] <antilus> yeah, I use my laptop at the moment...didn't know that Intel didn't work, but then I'll blame Intel instead xD
[11:08] <byflash> hey i have i question
[11:08] <X3> this is not #psp
[11:08] <antilus> but how can I change CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE so it works again?^^
[11:08] <unop> AdvoWork,   if you want to search through .gz files.    zgrep "index\.php" development/*.gz
[11:09] <byflash> there is nobody there T^T
[11:09] <AdvoWork> unop, wil doing grep searchterm folder/* search folders within that folder aswell?
[11:09] <gypsymauro> someone uses ocsinventory? I need to know on how to set TAG on clients once the service agent is installed
[11:09] <X3> antlilus look at you keyboard settings
[11:09] <lizzzzard> antilus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes#Ctrl-Alt-Backspace%20disabled%20by%20default%20in%20Xorg
[11:09] <arcsky> new ubuntu cmes today?
[11:09] <lizzzzard> google is your friend
[11:09] <ninjafury> I'm having trouble getting netatalk/avahi working properly with Jaunty. After upgrading to jaunty, I can't mount shared drives on my mac. Anyone have this problem?
[11:09] <unop> AdvoWork, no, add the -r flag to grep to enable recursive search ..  grep -r searchterm folder/*
[11:10] <X3> byflash: wtf do you want
[11:10] <antilus> thx a lot guys...you're the best!
[11:10] <lizzzzard> antilus: on same page for your info https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes#Performance%20regressions%20on%20Intel%20graphics%20cards
[11:10] <inktvis75> http://noncdn-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/
[11:10] <arcsky> where can i download ubuntu 9.04?
[11:11] <supersasho> hello, can you help me with a script that opens several programs but on another virtual desktop (f.e. desktop2).. not on the focused one
[11:11] <lizzzzard> !isitout | arcsky
[11:11] <AdvoWork> unop so: zgrep -r "index\.php" /*.gz  will search all folders for all files Including .gz  ?
[11:11] <MrStatic> Hiya, was wondering if anyone knew why my wifi is being assigned to eth1 which is screwing up a lot of things instead of wlan0, I checked the persistent rules and its listed
[11:12] <unop> AdvoWork, no, zgrep only looks in gzip compressed files ... and since we specified *.gz there, only those files are passed on to zgrep .. all other files are ignored
[11:13] <naxa> hi all! So how is it going?
[11:13] <naxa> I mean Jaunty of course.
[11:14] <madrazr> JJ is out :D
[11:14] <girdy> naxa: it sucks
[11:14] <unop> AdvoWork,  in other words, you need two commands, use grep to search all the normal files first, then use zgrep to search compressed files
[11:14] <girdy> naxa: no hardware support, no compiz, no internet (now anyway),
[11:14] <naxa> girdy, really? how?
[11:14] <naxa> madrazr, yeah I've a copy too
[11:15] <naxa> girdy, oh I see. how lame!
[11:15] <girdy> naxa: the noveau driver won't install on my intel gm945
[11:15] <madrazr> naxa: I don't have such a fast connection :(
[11:15] <supersasho> hello, can you help me with a script that opens several programs but on another virtual desktop (f.e. desktop2).. not on the focused one
[11:15] <naxa> madrazr, I came all the way here to have a fast internet and it's just not oficially out yet! What a shame!
[11:15] <naxa> madrazr, at home i have 50 kb/s
[11:16] <madrazr> naxa: what?
[11:16] <girdy> naxa: well i'm not trying to bash ubuntu, i just see room for improvement
[11:16] <naxa> madrazr, here i've got 3 mb/s
[11:16] <madrazr> naxa: I have 2mbps
[11:16] <madrazr> still it sucks here
[11:16] <fincan> Downloads arrived!!! CHECK WEBSİTE!!!!
[11:16] <fincan> just kidding :)
[11:16] <naxa> girdy, yeah, I can see your point! I've an old intel chipset in my mb at home and it is not supported either! How lame!
[11:17] <salimane> fincan which website?
[11:17] <Extend> it is out right ?
[11:17] <girdy> naxa: just do it from where you are. CTRL+ F2
[11:17] <fincan> I was kidding :)
[11:17] <naxa> madrazr, yeah, i'm always lost in this. do you mean bit or byte? i meant byte.
[11:17] <dexter47> girdy?
[11:17] <girdy> naxa: enter in "update-manager -d" without quotes
[11:17] <madrazr> naxa: bit
[11:17] <naxa> girdy, wow!
[11:18] <joaopinto> today is not a good day to use update-manager :P
[11:18] <Extend> it's out i'm downloading
[11:18] <AdvoWork> unop, yeah something like that :s
[11:18] <naxa> madrazr, i see i see! Let's say it's 3*8=24 mbps here and 50*8=0,4 mbps at home for me, then. it was worth to come here!
[11:19] <supersasho> will anyone use apt-p2p for upgrading? does it get faster then the normal way?
[11:19] <fincan> kubuntu dvd on torrent and ftp
[11:19] <fincan> OUT!!!!!!!!!!
[11:19] <fincan> RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:19] <fincan> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/release/dvd/kubuntu-9.04-dvd-amd64.iso
[11:19] <naxa> what? for real?
[11:19] <fincan> :)
[11:19] <rc55> lies
[11:19] <brinstar> the timestamp on the iso is 20 apr???
[11:20] <fincan> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/release/dvd/
[11:20] <fincan> check here :)
[11:20] <tsimpson> !ops | fincan
[11:20] <LurkersA> it will be the RC
[11:20] <naxa> oh yeah no announce
[11:20] <brinstar> http://noncdn-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/
[11:20] <rc55> There really wont be much difference between RC and final
[11:20] <Matr|X> i have some problem with my lamp-server
[11:20] <Master-Mind> Hey how do i find the Danish Channel :) ?
[11:20] <supersasho> will anyone use apt-p2p for upgrading? does it get faster then the normal way?
[11:20] <omer666> anyone has a GM965/GL960 that works correctly ?
[11:21] <haggisbasheruk> for those Aspire One users out there , Kuki Linux 1.7 (based on Jaunty final) is now in testing #kukilinux for details
[11:21] <Myrtti> !dk | Master-Mind
[11:21] <drinkycrow> need help with sound in doom 3, audigy 2
[11:21] <naxa> girdy, I wonder if the intel driver, network manager, menu editing and gtk filechooser just got any better? :D my critical points so far. They are not being updated too much... .)
[11:22] <Dudeface> is ubuntu based on windows xp or windows vista?
[11:22] <drinkycrow> xp
[11:22] <Dudeface> i dont like vista
[11:22] <Dudeface> SWEET!
[11:22] <Matr|X> i unstall lamp server then i install it agine give me erros like Reloading AppArmor profiles : done.
[11:22] <Matr|X>  * /etc/init.d/mysql: WARNING: /etc/mysql/my.cnf cannot be read. See README.Debian.gz
[11:22] <Matr|X>  * Starting MySQL database server mysqld                                                                                              [ OK ]
[11:22] <Matr|X> /etc/init.d/mysql: line 115: /etc/mysql/debian-start: No such file or directory
[11:22] <Matr|X> invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" fail
[11:22] <FloodBot2> Matr|X: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:22] <Myrtti> Dudeface: neither, keep the offtopic chat somewhere else
[11:22] <Matr|X> /etc/mysql/my.cnf << this is my problem :S
[11:22] <Extend> Dudeface, r u sure about what u said about ubuntu ?
[11:23] <naxa> Dudeface, it's 3.1
[11:23] <Extend> 3.1 the NT version ?
[11:23] <Matr|X> hello
[11:23] <brinstar> Dudeface: its based on DOS
[11:23] <Dudeface> 3.1 came out just after xp, wasnt as good
[11:23] <Matr|X> eny body help me plz
[11:23] <naxa> Extend, 3.1 the "for workgroups" version
[11:23] <Extend> naxa, oh nice
[11:24] <RantingHuman> The alternate iso torrent link for 9.04 shows a tracker error... "not authorized for use"..
[11:24] <bouma> ok ive got icedtea-6-plugin openjdk-6-jre- open-jdk-6-jre-headless
[11:24] <bouma> but java still doesnt work in firefox
[11:24] <naxa> Matr|X, no idea sorry :(
[11:24] <Matr|X> :(:(:(:(:(
[11:24] <MrStatic> Hiya, was wondering if anyone knew why my wifi is being assigned to eth1 which is screwing up a lot of things instead of wlan0, I checked the persistent rules and its listed
[11:25] <Matr|X> so if i make backup for my server it will go back to three days befor
[11:25] <drinkycrow> need help with sound in doom 3, audigy 2
[11:25] <Matr|X> if i backup my server will it work like 3 days later
[11:25] <LurkersA> RantingHuman: Same here
[11:25] <Atomic_UE> is 7.10 passed it's support life?
[11:26] <RantingHuman> LurkersA, I guess they're waiting till it's announced
[11:26] <erUSUL> !gutsy
[11:26] <LurkersA> Atomic_UE: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-7.10-eol
[11:26] <Atomic_UE> cool thanks
[11:26] <LurkersA> RantingHuman: Yeah, I'll just keep hitting F5 on ubuntu.com :)
[11:26] <Atomic_UE> explains why it says there are updates but nobody has them :P
[11:27] <RantingHuman> hehe
[11:27] <Atomic_UE> might click the upgrade button then and see how it goes
[11:28] <gardrell> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/release/dvd/
[11:28] <kraut> gardrell: rd or final?
[11:29] <Mylisto> hey everyone...
[11:29] <gardrell> final but noch released yet
[11:29] <Mylisto> how can I figure out what my ip settings are in ubuntu?
[11:29] <gardrell> ifconfig
[11:29] <kiosky> it's out: http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/
[11:29] <kraut> gardrell: still not on any other mirror, let's wait ;)
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:30] <naxa> Mylisto, I used to do it with typing "ifconfig" (without braces) in a Terminal what can be found in Applications
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> naxa: {} are braces ;)
[11:30] <Mylisto> which one is the default gateway?
[11:31] <naxa> ActionParsnip, whoops, that's for real! SORRY!!!
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> naxa: just playing dude
[11:31] <naxa> ActionParsnip, help me out what is these apostrophes or """""
[11:31] <karname> this is rc or final version : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/release/
[11:31] <karname> ?
[11:31] <florin> hi
[11:31] <naxa> ActionParsnip, in Hungaryr, we call them the "claws of the cat"
[11:31] <naxa> (literally)
[11:31] <LurkersA> wonder what the traffic is like on ubuntu.com right now....
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> naxa: i'd say quotes or quotation marks
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> naxa: cool, thats rockin
[11:32] <naxa> yeah it's the best!
[11:32] <karname> anybody know this is rc or final version : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/release/?
[11:32] <DRAGGER> Hello , i get a Backup form cpanel on my server when i extracted it on ubuntu i getting error "Unexpected end of file"
[11:33] <DRAGGER> i removed it and redownloaded it but the same problem
[11:33] <LurkersA> i386 alternate torrent is up and running
[11:33] <Extend> LurkersA, yeah
[11:33] <Newb`s> 9.04 is out
[11:33] <Newb`s> topic is deprecated :D
[11:33] <RustAU> !outyet
[11:34] <DRAGGER> Hello !
[11:34] <Rapachooie> hi all... I am trying to find out if there is a simple way to rename a heap of image files, so that they do not have duplicate-errors (lower-case and upper-case files appear as the same file on windows) when I put them onto windows
[11:34] <naxa> Mylisto, type "/sbin/route"
[11:34] <Rapachooie> is there a simple program or command to differentiate the files?
[11:34] <naxa> Mylisto, there you'll see your default gateway!
[11:34] <eirikhm> For a quick mirror in Scandinavia - ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/ubuntu-iso/9.04/
[11:34] <Mylisto> naxa: did that...nothing happened
[11:35] <rumpel> @ Rapachooie "man rename"
[11:35] <Rapachooie> rumpel: could you elaborate a bit on that for me?
[11:35] <naxa> Mylisto, uh, well, it works for me! i write "/sbin/route" in a terminal without quotes and it just tells me the default gateway
[11:35] <Rapachooie> rumple   nevermind
[11:35] <Rapachooie> forgat thats the manual name
[11:35] <Rapachooie> *forgot
[11:36] <tucuna> it has been released (9.04)
[11:36] <Rapachooie> :) ill have a look  thanks
[11:36] <Klau3> realy?
[11:36] <MrStatic> Hiya, was wondering if anyone knew why my wifi is being assigned to eth1 which is screwing up a lot of things instead of wlan0, I checked the persistent rules and its listed
[11:36] <tucuna> http://colonos.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/ubuntu-904-jaunty-jackalope-has-been-released-get-torrent-here/
[11:36] <Nytrix> http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04
[11:36] <LurkersA> And now I remember why I hate NZ broadband speeds.... -sigh-
[11:37] <FlyOnThe1all> I'm trying to install slapd with tls-support in Hardy, but I keep getting the not-so-clear error msg: -64, anybody know what this means?
[11:37] <Mylisto> anyone know how to find the default gateway via terminal?
[11:37] <FlyOnThe1all> Mylisto: ip route
[11:37] <RustAU> how do I remove mounted disks from the desktop?
[11:37] <rumpel> @ Mylisto "route"
[11:37] <rumpel> @ RustAU rightclick
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> !info slapd
[11:37] <Newb`s> Ubuntu 9.04 is out here : http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/
[11:38] <fincan> change channel topic! :)
[11:38] <_g0tmi1k_> so its out?
[11:38] <Mylisto> this is what I got when I type route
[11:38] <RustAU> wtf no netbook remix torrent
[11:38] <Mylisto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156437/
[11:38] <Newb`s> It's out
[11:38] <sponzor> Newb`s what about kubunt?
[11:38] <Newb`s> http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/
[11:38] <Mylisto> not sure what the default gateway is
[11:38] <Newb`s> sponzor: out too
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> FlyOnThe1all: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo dpkg --configure -a; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install slapd
[11:39] <sponzor> can you geave me the link please
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> FlyOnThe1all: try that
[11:39] <Newb`s> sponzor: kubuntu is here : http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/jaunty/
[11:39] <sriramoman> why's release taking so much time :(
[11:39] <sponzor> thanks
[11:39] <brinstar> its out
[11:39] <FlyOnThe1all> ActionParsnip: very well, I'll try it
[11:39] <naxa> Mylisto, should you try "sudo route" without quotes, perhaps
[11:39] <FlyOnThe1all> Mylisto: the Gateway -column is the list of your gateways for different destinations, the default one is clearly stated to be 192.168.1.1
[11:40] <Mylisto> 192.168.1.1 is my linksys router I think...
[11:40] <Rapachooie> i dont get it
[11:40] <Rapachooie> the main page isnt updated
[11:40] <FlyOnThe1all> Mylisto: yup
[11:40] <lucide> how to know when the final version is out? ubuntu.com proposes 8.10 as "the latest version" on their pages.. :P
[11:40] <Rapachooie> im still getting it that 8.10 is latest
[11:40] <naxa> Mylisto, shoudn't that be your gateway?
[11:41] <Mylisto> Basically I am trying to get my gf's win xp machine to connect...dhcp messed up like 2 weeks ago...so I am trying to set up everything with manual ip's, default...but not sure how
[11:41] <Myrtti> !isitout
[11:41] <brinstar> it is out, check the main page link for the rc
[11:41] <Myrtti> brinstar: it's not, stop saying it is
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Rapachooie: sudo updatemanager -d
[11:41] <iceroot> Myrtti: it is
[11:41] <brinstar> why not just check the page and tell me what you think??
[11:41] <lucide> brinstar: RC is not the final release.. ?
[11:41] <Mylisto> would anyone care to walk me through this?
[11:41] <Rapachooie> doesnt seem like it is to me
[11:41] <brinstar> what is that release if not the final version?
[11:42] <Rapachooie> considering the "download" page says that 8.10 is the latest
[11:42] <lucide> RC - release candidate
[11:42] <Myrtti> brinstar, iceroot: do you want me to explain the mechanics of rsync to you, or are you just going to believe it's not released yet?
[11:42] <sriramoman> lucide, RC is the release candidate and not the final release.
[11:42] <lucide> sriramoman: exactly..
[11:42] <tucuna> here is a torrent for 9.05 Final/Full:
[11:42] <tucuna> http://colonos.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/ubuntu-904-jaunty-jackalope-has-been-released-get-torrent-here/
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> why can't people just wait 24 hours more?
[11:42] <FlyOnThe1all> ActionParsnip: that only installs slapd, which I already have the latest version of
[11:42] <drinkycrow> need help with sound in doom 3, audigy 2
[11:42] <aboSamoor> Hi, can you help me ? I want to download a podcast. Rhythmbox is not saving the files by their titles, banshee can not continue downloading [known bug] ?!
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> its so hilarious to watch you all fight to find something that doesnt exist yet
[11:43] <brinstar> Myrtti: then what is the release on that page i mentioned?
[11:43] <tsimpson> don't post links until after the announcement from ubuntu.com
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> FlyOnThe1all: ok so whats the problem?
[11:43] <sriramoman> drinkycrow, doom3 is there for linux?
[11:43] <Mylisto> basically I just need to find out what I should make the ip address in my winxp machine
[11:43] <lucide> ActionParsnip: because I've been waiting "just" one week and I really want to get started with the latest *final* version
[11:43] <tsimpson> and I mean the front page of it
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> sriramoman: yep, get the native installer from ID's site and use that with your Doom3 CD, or use WINE
[11:43] <Myrtti> brinstar: it's a file that may or may not be the final version. There might be some changes to it with rsync from the release team, so it may not be the final one
[11:43] <GrimmVarg> hey guys, is there at apple+ubuntu channel somewhere?
[11:43] <tsimpson> Newb`s: join #ubuntu-ops then
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> lucide: your system wont self destruct if it doesnt get jaunty installed right now.
[11:44] <FlyOnThe1all> ActionParsnip: so the problem is I've configured it, generated certificates, checked the certificates, gone through the file access rights to the certificates and yet I cannot start the slapd service, debug output only says the error is -64
[11:44] <FlyOnThe1all> ActionParsnip: to be precise: main: TLS init def ctx failed: -64
[11:44] <olivier> so, is it out now?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> FlyOnThe1all: o idea then dude, not something i use. Is there an irc channel for it, on freenode or another server
[11:45] <FlyOnThe1all> I tried looking for one, but I couldn't find one
[11:45] <drinkycrow> sriramoman: yes, it runs natively on linux
[11:45] <lucide> ActionParsnip: noo.. I just asked how to know when it's out.. if anyone knows.. not that I must have it, I just want to have it
[11:45] <Myrtti> ATTENTION: Jaunty is not yet released, and posting any links for downloads, be they torrents or to the isos themselves will get you kicked from the channel! Proceed to Party On at #ubuntu-release-party
[11:45] <naxa> Mylisto, also "netstat -nr" has your default gateway with "UG" written in the "FLAG" coloumn
[11:45] <Klau3> do you download the .iso through BitTorrent or ftp?
[11:45] <Myrtti> lucide: it's not out
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> lucide: i'd say in about 24 - 48 hours
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> !isitout | lucide
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> Myrtti: i guess this is flavour of the day huh :(
[11:45] <drinkycrow> if by 'runs on linux' you mean 'hope you really don't want to hear anything'
[11:46] <dundel> haha finally
[11:46] <dundel> it's coming
[11:46] <erUSUL> McPeter: your winXP must have an ip 192.168.1.x (x can be 1-254) 1 is ocupied by the gw so choose another one
[11:46] <Myrtti> ActionParsnip: yes, and one of the reasons I hate release days
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> drinkycrow: huh?
[11:46] <lucide> tnx
[11:46] <Rapachooie> hi all...i have a bunch of photos which are both upper and lower case and windows is recognising them as duplicates... i am trying to find a command or program to rename them to windows compatible format?  - man rename didnt tell me much
[11:46] <wtv> what's the difference between ubuntu CD and DVD installation?
[11:46] <drinkycrow> ActionParsnip: doom 3 runs awesome on ubuntu so long as you don't mind not being able to hear a revenant around the corner with a set of rockets waiting to roast you
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> wtv: dvd has a lot more language support on the disk as well as (i think) the other DEs
[11:47] <trucMuche> erUSUL, what ? oO
[11:47] <zetheroo> how can I update alsa to the latest version? ... I am running 9.04
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> drinkycrow: ran perfectly on my system
[11:47] <hadis> anyone can help me about install stellarium-0.10.0
[11:47] <trucMuche> "my winXP" o_O
[11:47] <drinkycrow> what version?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> wtv: but you can get it all once you get installed and online
[11:47] <wtv> ActionParsnip: does it have more optional packages
[11:47] <erUSUL> trucMuche: my bad was for Mylisto ...
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> drinkycrow: let me guess....creative soundcard?
[11:47] <FlyOnThe1all> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help tho, I'll see if I can find a more specific channel for slapd
[11:47] <drinkycrow> good call
[11:47] <wtv> ActionParsnip: i intend to install it on PCs not connected
[11:47] <erUSUL> Mylisto: your winXP must have an ip 192.168.1.x (x can be 1-254) 1 is ocupied by the gw so choose another one
[11:48] <MrStatic> Hiya, was wondering if anyone knew why my wifi is being assigned to eth1 which is screwing up a lot of things instead of wlan0, I checked the persistent rules and its listed
[11:48] <trucMuche> erUSUL, :)
[11:48] <drinkycrow> but i don't see how that's relevant, as everything else has sound
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> wtv: no not really, for a desktop PC in english using a single DE, it has everything you need. I download the DVD ISO as I can't find CD media around me for love nor money
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> drinkycrow: do you use a creative soundcard?
[11:49] <looonger> has 9.04 been released yet?
[11:49] <drinkycrow> yes
[11:49] <drinkycrow> it's a creative soundcard
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> drinkycrow: wanna know how i knew?
[11:49] <blame> sriramoman its already released
[11:49] <Myrtti> looonger: no
[11:49] <drinkycrow> how?
[11:49] <wtv> ActionParsnip: it doesn't have codecs
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> drinkycrow: because their support SUCKS and they are a PITA to setup
[11:49] <drinkycrow> it works with everything else
[11:49] <drinkycrow> and doom3 has sound in windows
[11:49] <sveinse> Hello. Is is possible to spawn a guest session of KDE when running Ubuntu?
[11:50] <drinkycrow> so i cant see how it's creative's fault
[11:50] <sveinse> ...running Gnome that it
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> drinkycrow: i use 100% compatible soundcards and have had no issues with any sound ever
[11:50] <zetheroo> ﻿ActionParsnip: how about laptops?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> drinkycrow: creative cant even support windows fully, a guy got sick of their slackness, wrote his own driver and creative threatened to sue
[11:50] <looonger> Myrtti, are isos available to download or is it the previous version?
[11:50] <girdy> thinks that linux should just die
[11:50] <drinkycrow> but it works for everything except doom 3 in ubuntu
[11:50] <FlyOnThe1all> drinkycrow: it's creative fault even tho it works in windows, because Creative makes drivers for windows but not for linux
[11:50] <zetheroo> ﻿ActionParsnip: I mean its not that easy to know what type of SC is in a laptop ...
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: research is key
[11:51] <zetheroo> ﻿ActionParsnip: hmm
[11:51] <girdy> why doesnt CTRL C work
[11:51] <krychek> where?
[11:51] <girdy> man this is so basic yet there are still bugs in the most simple things
[11:51] <Myrtti> looonger: there might be some isos that might look like they are the final release version, but there might still be some changes to them, so we ask you not to download them yet. the previous versions can be downloaded and used, but patience will get you further
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: there are loads of guides and forums about people with varying latops and will most likely have pasted their lspci, so you can see exactly whats what
[11:51] <LurkersA> in what girdy?
[11:52] <drinkycrow> how is an audio card supposed to develop linux drivers?
[11:52] <drinkycrow> the company rather
[11:52] <drinkycrow> linux sound structure changes every year
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> drinkycrow: they make the card, they make the drivers. NVidia have been doing it for ages
[11:52] <erUSUL> drinkycrow: code in C against the alsa kernel subsystem
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> drinkycrow: as have intel
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> drinkycrow: as have realtek
[11:53] <joaopinto> and this really should go into off-topic :)
[11:53] <zetheroo> ﻿erUSUL: :-D
[11:53] <james7493> drinkycrow: They don't have to. There's a bunch of driver developers that have offered to write and maintain drivers for companies that are willing to provide technical information about their hardware.
[11:53] <zetheroo> ﻿joaopinto: nah ... there's not much happening anyhow
[11:54] <girdy> lurkersa: linux is terrible man i've lost all faith in it
[11:55] <Athenon_> what time today is jaunty coming out>?
[11:55] <girdy> the file hierarchy is a huge disorganized mess, there's no device manager, there's no real graphics support. period
[11:55] <joaopinto> girdy, do you have a question ? this channel is not for complains
[11:55] <rumpel> !jaunty > Athenon_
[11:55] <nonickname> Athenon_, read the topic of the channel.
[11:55] <Mr_Kaizer> How do I restart X from the terminal?
[11:55] <joaopinto> girdy, you are clearly misinformed
[11:55] <LurkersA> girdy: Were you trying to use CTRL-C in a terminal?
[11:55] <girdy> i'm not complaining, there's a lot that needs to be done to this OS
[11:56] <girdy> no CTRL + SHIFT + C
[11:56] <girdy> but CTRL + C in firefox
[11:56] <looonger> girdy, linux is free so don't complain
[11:56] <james7493> girdy: How come you're here?
[11:56] <kliklik> There's a lot that needs to be done to any OS. IMO they all suck
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> girdy: how many distros have you tried?
[11:56] <girdy> hahaha
[11:56] <LurkersA> girdy: THere is a lot to be done, but what we have is fairly impressive
[11:56] <MrKeishii> Is it possible to change the compiz fusion window size on netbook?
 i've tried fedora and ubuntu
[11:57] <MrKeishii> because it has problems on netbooks
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> girdy: thats not very many to say you hate linux
[11:57] <MrKeishii> using 9.04RCC
[11:57] <looonger> girdy, after 5 years on linux I see no alternative to linux
[11:57] <mgolisch> no the file hoerarchy is great
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> girdy: maybe BSD is more to your tastes
[11:57] <girdy> i never said i hated it
[11:57] <girdy> i said it needs improvements
[11:57] <Phleagor> try archlinux
[11:57] <mgolisch> its clean, its not a mess like on windows
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> looonger: pretty much the same here
[11:57] <girdy> which i will eventually write in code and give to all of you
[11:57] <girdy> leaving my mark on the open source world
[11:57] <joaopinto> ppl can we move the what linux needs to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[11:57] <kliklik> that's the spirit :)
[11:58] <james7493> girdy: There's actually an improvement coming out today that you might've heard something about...
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> girdy: give fedora a try, its got pretty sweet support
[11:58] <Vezir> soit IS today
[11:58] <girdy> ActionParsnip: aiight i will
[11:58] <looonger> girdy, graphics support sucks, that's true
[11:58] <Vezir> the "don't ask when" is an hour type thing, not a SHIT WE COULDNT FINISH IT
[11:58] <Vezir> thing
[11:58] <joaopinto> girdy, your overall statement is clearly misinformed, but please keep this channel for support
[11:58] <girdy> james7493: u mean jaunty or something more specific?
[11:58] <marko_d> hi
[11:59] <marko_d> when will ubuntu torrent be pushed out?
[11:59] <james7493> girdy: Yeah, Jaunty.
[11:59] <marko_d> like in 1-2 hours or ?
[11:59] <tsimpson> !language | Vezir
[11:59] <Vezir> oh whoops, sorry, shoulda figuredthat out
[11:59] <r3c0n> ubuntu 9.04 is scheduled for release today, isnt it?
[11:59] <_Sih> yes
[11:59] <Vezir> anyways i was worried that t would become ubuntu 9.0fornever
[11:59] <joaopinto> r3c0n, yes, but it's not out yet, don't ask for the time
[11:59] <tigerwolf> join #ubuntu-party
[11:59] <marko_d> yeah, but which time
[12:00] <JackWinter> anyone know what version of nfs is in ubuntu 8.04 nfs3 or nfs4 ?
[12:00] <asasd> Happy Ubunting :D
[12:00] <asasd> Geissbock
[12:00] <asasd> Avatar von Geissbock
[12:00] <asasd> Anmeldungsdatum:
[12:00] <FloodBot2> asasd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:00] <asasd> 4. Juni 2007
[12:00] <asasd> Beiträge: 223
[12:00] <TychoQuad> Are we allowed to talk about Jaunty in here yet?
[12:00] <ossud> when can i download 9.04?
[12:00] <ossud> xD
[12:00] <ziroday> TychoQuad: ossud #ubuntu-release-party
[12:00] <r3c0n> joaopinto: ok, im not five you know :)
[12:01] <r3c0n> DAD! ARE WE THERE YET?
[12:01] <r3c0n> ;)
[12:01] <joaopinto> ;)
[12:01] <TychoQuad> ziroday, i'm not here to celebrate, i'm here to sort an issue :P
[12:01] <bibstha> lol
[12:01] <bibstha> but why ? is it being doen for throttling?
[12:01] <Foor> 9.04
[12:01] <Madpilot> bibstha, is what being done for throttling?
[12:02] <geoaxis> what time is 9.04 expected today, if its being released today
[12:02] <krychek> whats the point in upgrading as soon as it's out? it will be slooow to download
[12:02] <chronicpirate> t minus +45 ish
[12:02] <tsimpson> geoaxis: there is no exact time, join #ubuntu-release party to wait it out
[12:02] <chronicpirate> that's a clever joke if you can catch it
[12:02] <bibstha> Madpilot, hehe nevermind
[12:02] <chronicpirate> or wait minus -45
[12:03] <geoaxis> krychek:  if more people put it on bittorent , it will be not a problem
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> krychek: many systems have 200Kg of thermit above them, the bomb will run uname -c at midnight, if it doesnt see jaunty, the systems will melt so they need jaunty now now now
[12:03] <tsimpson> erm that's #ubuntu-release-party
[12:03] <chronicpirate> geoaxis: it is gonna be on bit torrent
[12:03] <sveinse> Non-9.04-question: How do I start a second KDE guest session, when running Gnome?  It seems guest session simply spawns a new Gnome session.  Is is possible?
[12:03] <chronicpirate> and when it's offically released you'll be glad to see how many seeds will magically be there :p
[12:03] <r3c0n> will ubuntu 9.04 be lts?
[12:03] <tsimpson> no
[12:03] <chronicpirate> nope
[12:04] <geoaxis> chronicpirate:  yeah i know ... krychek was complaining about slow download speeds
[12:04] <chronicpirate> 10.04 I belive is next
[12:04] <krychek> geoaxis: you cant upgrade using torrent.. unless you reinstall the whole stuff
[12:04] <[1]kino> hi, everybody. Why can't I see videos when I run the Ubuntu 8.04 live cd?
[12:04] <chronicpirate> like any vidoes?
[12:04] <geoaxis> krychek:  you cannnot upgrade with CD?
[12:04] <pspsampsp_> u can use alternate install to upgrade
[12:04] <chronicpirate> you might need to install the proper codecs
[12:04] <zetheroo> what time is 9.04 being released?
[12:04] <joaopinto> [1]kino, because you dont have the proprietary codecs ?
[12:04] <whattey> when its done
[12:04] <chronicpirate> for like divx
[12:04] <pspsampsp_> ill get the link
[12:04] <whattey> \o/
[12:05] <nonickname> zetheroo, join #ubuntu-release-party
[12:05] <chronicpirate> there are nice generica packs out
[12:05] <chronicpirate> apt-cache search video codecs
[12:05] <r3c0n> what motivates you guys to label a distro LTS? is it how stable you feel that it is?
[12:05] <chronicpirate> can't remember what its' called but it will hook you up
[12:05] <[1]kino> chronicpirate the answer was for me?
[12:05] <chronicpirate> yeah
[12:05] <irmandos> !isitout | zetheroo
[12:05] <chronicpirate> it was
[12:05] <krychek> geoaxis: with alternative cd yes.. but i dont think most ppl are doing it that way
[12:05] <joaopinto> r3c0n, no, it's is a predefined support schedule
[12:05] <r3c0n> i was under the imperssion that all .04's were LTS
[12:05] <chronicpirate> every other?
[12:05] <[1]kino> how can I install the codecs while running the live cd?
[12:05] <r3c0n> ah joapinto, so the next LTS will be 10.04 ?
[12:05] <chronicpirate> it might even be every three years
[12:06] <r3c0n> joaopinto*
[12:06] <chronicpirate> yes
[12:06] <sveinse> Wow... People aren't talking about anything else than the release :o
[12:06] <chronicpirate> it wil be
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> [1]kino: same as you would in an installd system
[12:06] <DJones> r3c0n: LTS are every 18 months
[12:06] <MrStatic> Hiya, was wondering if anyone knew why my wifi is being assigned to eth1 which is screwing up a lot of things instead of wlan0, I checked the persistent rules and its listed
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> !medibuntu | [1]kino
[12:06] <r3c0n> are .04's more stable than .10's ?
[12:06] <joaopinto> r3c0n, as far as I know yes
[12:06] <joaopinto> r3c0n, no
[12:06] <[1]kino> ubottu, so what should I install?
[12:06] <joaopinto> they have the same development cycle
[12:06] <Madpilot> r3c0n, there's no difference
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> r3c0n: i guess it varys from system to system
[12:07] <joaopinto> the S on LTS is not about stability, is about support
[12:07] <krychek> r3c0n: who said LTS means more stable? it means only its supported for a longer period of time..
[12:07] <r3c0n> i know its about support
[12:07] <r3c0n> long term support. i get it but its always the .04's that get the LTS
[12:07] <r3c0n> i guess that also has to do with fact that someone said its every 18 months
[12:07] <r3c0n> and since its every 6 months that we get a new version
[12:07] <r3c0n> then it will always be .04
[12:07] <bibstha> its been released!! yeppie
[12:07] <bibstha> official announcement done
[12:07] <joaopinto> r3c0n, right
[12:07] <bibstha> http://www.ubuntu.com/
[12:08] <FloodBot2> bibstha: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:08] <krychek> r3c0n: there are 3 non-lts releases between every lts
[12:08] <r3c0n> o
[12:08] <JPSman> Hey everybody.  What is a good C IDE for gutsy?  I was toying with a kdevelop on a virtual KDE (slackware) and it looked GOOD.  I just want to know what's a good one for ubuntu?
[12:08] <rm```> JPSman: eclipse
[12:08] <tsimpson> bibstha: not it has not
[12:08] <joaopinto> bibstha, was not
[12:08] <rm```> and CDT
[12:08] <r3c0n> so since 8.04 had lts, 8.10 wont, and neither will 9.04 or 9.10. yeah so pretty much only .04's will have LTS
[12:08] <bibstha> hehe just testing.. u guys..
[12:09] <joaopinto> JPSman, code::blocks, don't know if there is a package for gutsy
[12:09] <erUSUL> JPSman: Anjuta is the rough equivalent
[12:09] <zaggynl> hmm, 3MB/s
[12:09] <r3c0n> where you guys dling from?
[12:09] <zaggynl> ♥ them quick mirrors
[12:09] <zaggynl> some dutch ubuntu mirror
[12:09] <JPSman> rm```, joaopinto, erUSUL - THANK YOU :OD
[12:10] <rm```> JPSman: sudo apt-get install eclipse-cdt if you want a fancy package, I prefer to download it directly from the website
[12:10] <JPSman> are the archives down right now?
[12:11] <to3000> what time dose 9.04 come out
[12:11] <Newb`s> !topic @ to3000
[12:11] <Newb`s> :D
[12:12] <aboyousif> jaunty should be released now, right ?!
[12:12] <finaltune> were is the release party?
[12:12] <zcat[1]> the last daily is pretty-much it anyhow.. previous releases ISTR the daily from the day before even had the same md5sum
[12:12] <tsimpson> !jaunty
[12:12] <aguitel> http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/ubuntu-releases/9.04/
[12:12] <krychek> to3000: it will be released only tomorrow
[12:12] <finaltune> no
[12:12] <finaltune> d
[12:12] <finaltune> today
[12:12] <r3c0n> is this the final stable version? http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/
[12:12] <pyxi> i know the release is today but does any body know what time today ?
[12:12] <tsimpson> r3c0n: no
[12:12] <Alfrenovsky> if it's not out yet, why http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ URLS doesn't incude any RC
[12:13] <tsimpson> stop posting links
[12:13] <Myrtti> ATTENTION: Jaunty is not yet released, and posting any links for downloads, be they torrents or to the isos themselves will get you kicked from the channel! Proceed to Party On at #ubuntu-release-party
[12:13] <tsimpson> it's not out
[12:13] <pspsampsp__> get ubuntu 9.04 at releases.ubuntu.com
[12:13] <r3c0n> are you tricking me to take all the bandwidth? :P
[12:13] <r3c0n> lulz.. ok ill cancel this one
[12:13] <JPSman> hrm - having problems with add/remove and synaptic finding necessary packages.  Is that because everyone is focusing on 9.04?
[12:13] <Alfrenovsky> Myrtti, Ok, sorry for posting the url, I'm asking why the files in this URL hace no "rc"
[12:14] <brinstar> yes id like to know why also
[12:15] <DJones> JPSman: Its probably that people are hitting the servers looking for 9.04 causing time outs etc
[12:15] <JPSman> DJones: greeaat.  Thanks anyway :OD  Still using 7.10 myself
[12:15] <brinstar> can someone unban me from ubuntu-release-party? i didnt know i couldnt post links
[12:15] <Le-Chuck_ITA> is there a command line client to bring a window to the front? I would like to make a script that opens an already existing alltray client
[12:15] <Extend> JPSman, 7.10 reached end of lifetime
[12:16] <JPSman> Extend: what does that mean?
[12:16] <Myrtti> Alfrenovsky, brinstar: while the files on $URL might be not named as "RC"s, there still might be some changes to them with rsync. The files are named as they are so that the mirrors could get the files before the release. Please do not download those files yet and give the mirrors a chance first.
[12:16] <DJones> !eol | JPSman
[12:16] <Extend> JPSman, that means you are not receiving updates
[12:16] <Myrtti> Alfrenovsky, brinstar did that explain it at all?
[12:17] <brinstar> Myrtti: in other words, theres a strong likelihood that those are the final isos?
[12:17] <[1]kino> i'm new to linux, so please excuse my ignorance. I am running the live cd with ubuntu 8.04. If I install a codec, after I remove the live cd, meaning I close the session, will the codec "be there" next time I run the live cd? It stays installed in the computer?
[12:17] <krychek> [1]kino: no
[12:17] <holdenss> no
[12:17] <james7493> brinstar: We all get it quicker if the mirrors get it first.
[12:18] <Matr|X> hello
[12:18] <inaeternum> the livecd doesn't touch your computer unless you choose to install
[12:18] <[1]kino> krychek: so every time i run the live cd and i want to see a video, I'll need to reinstall the codec again?
[12:18] <Matr|X> help me with lamp-server
[12:18] <Alfrenovsky> Myrtti. Ok. i'll wait, anyway no one should download the isos directly. Torrent is a best option So we all can share bandwith
[12:18] <DaveCo> !release
[12:18] <Myrtti> brinstar: might be, might not, I'm not the release master so I wouldn't know. I strongly recommend you *NOT* to download anything yet so the mirrors will get a chance first
[12:18] <DaveCo> !jaunty
[12:18] <Alfrenovsky> Matr|X, What do you need with LAMP ?
[12:18] <Matr|X> i had unstall lamp-server and when i install it agine now :S its not working
[12:19] <JPSman> What will the next LTS be?
[12:19] <Matr|X> ah thex alfenovsky
[12:19] <Spikius> if i would like to write script in mirc to connect to freenode, then identify and the join some chan, so it would be like >> .server -m irc.freenode.net
[12:19] <inaeternum> does ubuntu contain proprietary firmware blobs if I install it with the "free software only" option?
[12:19] <brinstar> 10.04 JPSman
[12:19] <Spikius> if i would like to write script in mirc to connect to freenode, then identify and the join some chan, so it would be like >> .server -m irc.freenode.net | ns identify pass | join #chan?
[12:19] <Spikius> sorry for a flood :)
[12:19] <Matr|X> here wht is the problem when i do the commands sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[12:19] <brinstar> 6.06 > 8.04 > 10.04
[12:20] <joaopinto> Spikius, we don't support mirc here
[12:20] <Spikius> :)
[12:20] <Matr|X> its stopped  in 79 % with Configuring mysql-server-5.0
[12:20] <Moonlit> brinstar - I thought you were listing your favourite versions for a sec there lol
[12:20] <joaopinto> Spikius, do you mean x-chat script ? try the xchat channel
[12:20] <Matr|X> plz help me
[12:20] <Spikius> no, i mean mirc :), im currently logged on into windows
[12:20] <Matr|X> i came yestrday and i some one told me its stringes
[12:20] <Alfrenovsky> Matr|X, can't understand what is exactly your problem.
[12:20] <krychek> [1]kino: some codecs are already installed by default but you are right otherwise.. vlc doesnt need codecs i dont know if its on the live cd
[12:21] <inaeternum> it's not
[12:21] <inaeternum> totem is
[12:21] <maijkkk> Does anyone know where I can get information about when Kubuntu will be released?
[12:21] <krychek> tomorrow
[12:21] <[1]kino> krychek: so to watch a video with the live cd, I need to reinstall the codecs every time again
[12:21] <jiffe1> hmm
[12:21] <jiffe1> what time does mcd's open
[12:21] <FlyOnThe1all> jiffe1: check their websites
[12:21] <Mylisto> 630 m
[12:21] <Mylisto> am
[12:22] <Mylisto> I think
[12:22] <inaeternum> [1]kino: you have to, unless they are pre-installed (like Theora)
[12:22] <brinstar> 10.04 is my favourite version
[12:22] <jiffe1> yeah, I'm not finding it on their site
[12:22] <JPSman> If I jump from 7.10 to 9.04, what should I expect?  What do i need to back up?
[12:22] <[1]kino> krychek: can I install vlc in every live cd session?
[12:22] <krychek> [1]kino: live cd wont "remember" any changes after each reboot... maybe you should use a pendrive linux instead
[12:23] <inaeternum> does somebodyknow if ubuntu contain proprietary firmware blobs if I install it with the "free software only" option?
[12:23] <brinstar> JPSman: expect a faster system
[12:24] <JPSman> sure sure, but, what things will change?  will my desktop erase or will my icons be there?  will I have to install all my apps again?
[12:25] <brinstar> depends, not sure
[12:25] <Fethi> hi
[12:26] <Kruxer> !ubuntu
[12:26] <MaT-dg> JPSman: hope for the best, prepare for the worst: ALWAYS make a backup of important documents.
[12:26] <nixz> wow 1612 nicks
[12:27] <Matr|X> ye[
[12:27] <JPSman> I just dont want to have to wrastle with my nvidia drivers again :OP
[12:28] <Homre> Hello all, i have a little question about how to install a NVIDIA driver. I've been trying to install the 3 version that you can find under"restricted drivers available". But whenever i install it, and reboot my computer i can't load the GUI of ubuntu. I've also been reading up about this, but i can't seem to get the drivers working right. Any help possible?
[12:28] <Le-Chuck_ITA> are there packages for multi-pointer X in some ubuntu unofficial repository?
[12:29] <Homre> I'm also very new to ubuntu, so please take contact in a private room if you have any suggestions about what i can do.
[12:29] <kbingham> how do i get the 9.04 release upgrade? do i have to run apt-get separately, its not showing any upgrade. Is it just not released through the package manager yet?
[12:29] <dn4> Ubuntu 9.04 is not out yet, please don't ask when it will be?
[12:30] <rubaha> привет
[12:30] <Vezir> is anyone here in seattle? we should have a release party.
[12:30] <glyj> Homre : did you had a look at the wiki ?
[12:30] <JPSman> a yes a release party
[12:30] <tsimpson> !jaunty
[12:30] <dn4> !topic
[12:30] <Spikius> kbingham then it will be out, you will be offered to upgrade
[12:30] <Spikius> or you can simply run "dist-upgrade"
[12:30] <mattseh> im grabbing it now via torrent :)
[12:30] <dn4>  Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion in #ubuntu+1 | Ubuntu 9.04 is not out yet, please don't ask when it will be
[12:31] <Spikius> mattgyver as i know its still the RC1 or smth like that via torrents
[12:31] <Spikius> 9.04 its not out yet
[12:31] <mattseh> http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ - seems final to me?
[12:31] <tsimpson> mattseh: no, it's not
[12:32] <mattseh> RC?
[12:32] <Spikius> yup
[12:32] <Spikius> its just been renamed :)
[12:32] <tsimpson> when you see the announcement on the *front page* of ubuntu.com, then you know
[12:32] <mattseh> if it's been renamed, then it is likely to become the release version?
[12:32] <tsimpson> no
[12:33] <koshar1> it is out now
[12:33] <tsimpson> don't download anything until the announcement
[12:33] <progre55> hi everybody! when is the ubuntu 9.04 coming out?
[12:33] <tsimpson> !jaunty
[12:33] <tsimpson> it's not out yet, just wait
[12:33] <Myrtti> ATTENTION: Jaunty is not yet released, and posting any links for downloads, be they torrents or to the isos themselves will get you kicked from the channel! Proceed to Party On at #ubuntu-release-party
[12:33] <koshar1> 9.04 its out now, it may just take time for some of the mirrors to catch up
[12:33] <zaggynl> :o
[12:33] <shauno> when you see laptops & bearded geeks in pubs, you'll know it's time
[12:33] <mattseh> heh
[12:33] <sidewalk> it is released
[12:34] <zaggynl> but it's available on a mirror
[12:34] <sidewalk> update-manager says there is a new version available
[12:34] <sidewalk> or?
[12:35] <koshar1> its wise to wait a little of use the torrent otherwise the mirrors get knocked around a bit
[12:35] <Spikius> of course :)
[12:35] <fabzor3> hi
[12:35] <fabzor3> im trying to change my console resoultion
[12:35] <Shortyyy> hi, does anyone knoow if Ubuntu 9.04 i out today? I notice the countdown on the site has stopped
[12:36] <fabzor3> im just wondering how to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[12:36] <peti> hy
[12:36] <Spikius> !jaunty
[12:36] <peti> hello
[12:36] <Shortyyy> thanks!
[12:36] <georgi> hi all
[12:36] <drinkycrow> never count out installing random sound libraries until something works
[12:36] <Spikius> fabzor3... well.. you can either use 'sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[12:36] <fabzor3> cos it says dont uncomment the linuc bu/boot/grub/menu.lst cos it say dont uncomment but if thats the case where do i make the change
[12:37] <mr_frostee> I just checked the site.  9.04 doesn't appear to be available yet.
[12:37] <fabzor3> yeah its cool i can edit it fine
[12:37] <koshar1> when will ubottu be updated?
[12:37] <zaggynl> main site worked for me
[12:37] <Spikius> or you can install startupmanager > does more or less everything
[12:37] <fabzor3> im just wondering about the way i should edit it
[12:37] <koshar1> mr_frostee depends where you look
[12:37] <fabzor3> hmm cool thanks i might try installing startupmanager
[12:37] <mr_frostee> 9.04 RC has been working good for me, except flash in firefox still doesn't work.
[12:38] <SPF> fabzor3: http://www.linuxquestions.org/blog/archtoad6-147095/2007/12/29/vga-resolution-codes-for-grub-and-lilo-830/
[12:38] <gachiman111> join #ubuntu-release-part
[12:38] <Shortyyy> thanks everyone :)
[12:38] <fabzor3> SPF: thanks looking now :D
[12:38] <Mylisto> now you guys are getting me interested in using Jaunty...
[12:38] <Mylisto> whats up with the notebook editions?
[12:39] <gachiman111> join #ubuntu-release-party
[12:40] <MarkJones> Doesnt seem to be #ubuntu-release-part
[12:40] <nshepperd> seems to me the official ubuntu.com download page should push bittorrent harder
[12:40] <nshepperd> "#ubuntu-release-party"
[12:40] <MarkJones> sorry got cut off. Cant find it though
[12:41] <Master-Mind> Hey someone there have tried the new 9.04 ?
[12:41] <nshepperd> the download servers always get whacked...
[12:41] <nshepperd> I'm using it now
[12:41] <acr0nym> hello
[12:41] <MarkJones> I have the Jaunty-RC installed and using right now.
[12:41] <nshepperd> have been since alpha 4
[12:42] <acr0nym> I have a little problem, just installed easytag, but the windows is too big for my screen (eeepc) and I cannot make it smaller
[12:42] <acr0nym> any ideas?
[12:42] <MarkJones> acrOnym have you tried holding ALT key and moving window around to resize etc?
[12:43] <rubaha> привет
[12:43] <acr0nym> I can move it around I can change the horizontal size, but not the vertical size
[12:43] <acr0nym> so I'm missing about the third of the window
[12:44] <lizzzzard> acr0nym: there is also a script/config hint on one of the wiki sites about allowing programs to switch to fullscreen using alt+f11, I believe. this could help
[12:44] <rubaha> здесь на русском?
[12:44] <acr0nym> thanks, I'll look into it
[12:44] <MarkJones> acr0nym: I just installed easytag and it seems fine on mine.You have all updates?
[12:45] <Mr_Kaizer> rubaha: #ubuntu-ru
[12:45] <acr0nym> I'm on rc release of jaunty and I installed it with sudo apt-get install easytag
[12:45] <lizzzzard> acr0nym: tell me if something works, inkscape does a similar thing for me
[12:45] <acr0nym> I have version 2.1.4
[12:45] <acr0nym> lizzzzard, will do
[12:45] <phix> how long now?
[12:45] <lizzzzard> thx
[12:45] <MarkJones> Who knows
[12:45] <kalib> the 9.04 will be released today?
[12:45] <phix> yeah
[12:45] <MarkJones> yes today
[12:46] <nshepperd> phix: about 3 meters
[12:46] <phix> it is 21:45 on THursday here :)
[12:46] <phix> it will be Friday soon, they better hurry up :P
[12:46] <_kal_> kalib: ubuntu 9.04 is already released
[12:46] <phix> :D
[12:46] <debsan> 8 :46 am here
[12:46] <phix> _kal_: where/
[12:47] <jingjing> ubuntu is now realese?
[12:47] <kalib> _kal_, I mean the final one...
[12:47] <debsan> thursday just begins
[12:47] <zykes-> _kal_: where is it ?
[12:47] <nebjakSRB> http://rs.releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[12:48] <nebjakSRB> final?
[12:48] <iceroot> nebjakSRB: look at the date from the torrent
[12:48] <_kal_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[12:48] <iceroot> nebjakSRB: its from tooday
[12:48] <jingjing> http://mirror1.ku.ac.th/jaunty/ <-- this is jaunty realese?
[12:48] <tsimpson> jingjing: no, and don't post links
[12:48] <ziroday> jingjing: no
[12:48] <phix> nshepperd: :D metric! yay
[12:49] <jingjing> tsimpson: zirodaythankyou
[12:49] <MrKeishii> in american version of the ubuntu site it is not released yet
[12:49] <abchirk> ehm why I can create with mkfs.ext4 ext4 partitions when I can't use them... mount /dev/sda2 new -> unknown file system type ext4! :(
[12:49]  * jingjing wait time for realese
[12:49] <phix> what does ext4 provide that ext3 doesn't?
[12:50] <phix> because the increment version number
[12:50] <phix> because = besides
[12:50] <phix> typos
[12:50] <lizzzzard> !isitout | jingjing
[12:50] <Oli``> phix: some things are a lot faster
[12:50] <ziroday> phix: its faster, unbelievable fsck times and other stuffs
[12:50] <abchirk> phix I read about better performance
[12:50] <X-TaZ> phix : there is a good page on wikipedia about it
[12:50] <MarkJones> ext4 : http://www.linfo.org/ext4fs.html
[12:50] <X-TaZ> Yes, performance improved
[12:50] <|ns|nR8> how long till its official and all the repos go down
[12:51] <xarvh> is xubuntu also ready?
[12:51] <ziroday> |ns|nR8: before midnight samoan time
[12:51] <abchirk> But what can I do that my intrepid mounts my ext4
[12:51] <ziroday> !isitout | xarvh
[12:51] <Spikius> hmz is the any 9.04 official banner?
[12:51] <abchirk> I want to debootstrap debian on it. :)
[12:51] <Pici> !party
[12:51] <pawel_> how to minimize fullscreen game?
[12:52] <jingjing>  
[12:52] <Spikius> xexexe
[12:52] <acr0nym> I haven't found a way to fix it, but alt+moving works fine for now :)
[12:52] <Spikius> lithuania still wins in most release partys
[12:52] <progre55> oh, is there any cool games under ubuntu??
[12:52] <progre55> other than cards and stuff :)
[12:52] <Oli``> progre55: yes, quite a few
[12:52] <FlyOnThe1all> my personal favourite is bsd-tetris
[12:52] <MarkJones> Looks like ext4 adds drive sizes up to 1024 terabytes as well as reduced fragmentation as seen in  in XFS, Reiser4 and ZFS (developed by Sun Microsystems for use in Solaris) filesystems.
[12:52] <xarvh> thanks
[12:53] <lizzzzard> acr0nym: thanks for coming back to tell us anyway
[12:53] <MrKeishii> yeah there are alot of games
[12:53] <progre55> no, I mean, more advanced ones, not tetris :)
[12:53] <Spikius> progre55 there is a LOTS of games..
[12:53] <MrKeishii> lol
[12:53] <penguin> is there huge differences between ext3 and etx4?.
[12:53] <Oli``> progre55: lots of FPSes but WorldOfGoo is excellent if you've got a few spare quid
[12:53] <Pici> !party
[12:53] <progre55> Spikius, can you suggest me any, please? )
[12:53] <kees-> hm, partman doesn't detect my harddisk; but fdisk (and the kernel etc does).. is there any way i can manually do the things partman does, and skip over it to 'install the base system'
[12:53] <xC> at what time will 9.04 be released?
[12:53] <Spikius> from Quake and other shooters till .. rpg, rts..
[12:53] <Matr|X> party wher and when:D
[12:53] <Matr|X> (H)
[12:53] <lizzzzard> progre55: there are some fine games like sauerbraten -- also many windows games run under wine.
[12:53] <Matr|X> i love party d
[12:53] <MarkJones> penguin: Looks like ext4 adds drive sizes up to 1024 terabytes as well as reduced fragmentation as seen in  in XFS, Reiser4 and ZFS (developed by Sun Microsystems for use in Solaris) filesystems.
[12:53] <Pici> !isitout | xC
[12:53] <|ns|nR8> is there an ubuntu party room ?
[12:53] <|ns|nR8> cheers
[12:54] <Spikius> well.. one of my favorites is OpedTTD (its Transport Tycoon Deluxe rewriten and optimized to be a bit realistic)
[12:54] <progre55> Oli``, lizzzzard, thanks guys, I'll try them  =now :)
[12:54] <lizzzzard> progre55: there are some linux games list out there. if you tell us a genre maybe we can think of something specific
[12:54] <sponzor> can you run cisco vpn client on kubuntu?
[12:54] <JPSman> will the update manager be able to take me from 7.10 to 9.04 ???
[12:54] <xarvh> progre55: http://www.happypenguin.org/ but right now is down
[12:55] <lizzzzard> |ns|nR8: #ubuntu-release-party
[12:55] <|ns|nR8> thanks lizzzzard
[12:55] <Oli``> progre55: if you open up add/remove and look in the games section, you can sort the games by order of popularity to get an idea of which games are... erm... most popular
[12:55] <MarkJones> JPSman why not just download the ISO so you wont have to download the updates again if needed later?
[12:55] <dantalizing> sponzor: yes you want the network-manager-vpnc package
[12:55] <progre55> Oli``, thanks man, appreciate! )
[12:55] <xarvh> how do I allow a secondary user to install programs but without allowing any other root privilege?
[12:55] <progre55> lizzzzard, smth like counter strike, or online strategy games
[12:56] <Spikius> xarvh > sudo ?!
[12:56] <p-f> What's the usual culprit when having battery life issues? I get about 2 hours of battery on linux, 6.5 on windows...
[12:56] <JPSman> MarkJones: because i dont want to do a whole other install - what about the alternate ISO, could I go from 7.10 to 9.04 that way?
[12:56] <xarvh> Spikius: do I have to play with sudoers?
[12:56] <xarvh> Spikius: and enable just apt-get is enough?
[12:56] <MarkJones> yeah sudo but admin need to be behind the user for password.But yeah that works.
[12:56] <phix> lizzzzard: it isn't releases yet? but it is in releases.ubuntu.org, or is that the rc?
[12:56] <phix> hmmm well it isnt marked as being rc
[12:57] <JPSman> phix - no its there
[12:57] <Oli``> p-f: not having the right chipset drivers installed. Ubuntu needs to know how to scale your CPU, HDs, etc... If it doesn't have the drivers (or doesn't have them enabled) it won't be able to save power effectively
[12:57] <MrKeishii> when will it be released in america?
[12:57] <Spikius> xarvh dont know exactly, bet lets say userB have to install something, so he has to have ability to run apt-get, dpkg maybe.. ant have access to sudo..
[12:57] <p-f> Oli``: is there a page with a list?
[12:57] <lizzzzard> phix no, final is not out yet
[12:57] <berkes> MrKeishii: /topic?
[12:57] <Spikius> but i cant say for sure
[12:57] <mib_7ppdsi> could somebody here help me with a problem i have with ubuntu 8.10?
[12:57] <phix> JPSman: talk to lizzzzard
[12:57] <dekkong> !ubuntu
[12:57] <Oli``> p-f: it really depends on the specific hardware, but if you google for "<your laptop model> ubuntu" you should find somebody else with the same problem
[12:57] <MarkJones> MrKeishii: When will hwta be released in amaerica?
[12:57] <p-f> Oli``: alright, thanks
[12:57] <MarkJones> what*
[12:58] <phix> MarkJones: your mum
[12:58] <lizzzzard> progre55: also maybe you like nexuiz
[12:58] <phix> MarkJones: what else could it be
[12:58] <abchirk> hm I have the intrepid kernel and it seems that the kernel doesn't provide ext4 maybe I have to load a modul for it?
[12:58] <JPSman> lizzzzard: but i'm torrenting it now . . . ?
[12:58] <phix> abchirk: maybe that is a bad idea
[12:58] <lizzzzard> JPSman: it says on the release notes page
[12:58] <dfs> how to install softwaref rom the ubuntu cd
[12:58] <Guest86118> hi
[12:58] <progre55> lizzzzard, cool, I'll try it now :) thanks man
[12:58] <MarkJones> Well you have to like live under a rock to like not know. Ubuntu.com is worldwide not just US.
[12:58] <Oli``> p-f: there are lists, but they're not very well maintained. You'll likely have better luck finding a specific how-to about your laptop (if it's popular) or other people asking for help on the forums if it's less popular
[12:58] <lizzzzard> JPSman: about updating.
[12:58] <MarkJones> stupid freaking people.
[12:58] <JPSman> lizzzzard: thank you :OD
[12:58] <Spikius> abchirk you thing that "havving" kernel is enough? :)
[12:58] <Pici> !isitout | MarkJones
[12:59] <Pici> !party
[12:59] <abchirk> phix If you do not like it... don't use it
[12:59] <lizzzzard> progre55: that'd be 'mam instead of man ;)
[12:59] <comair> hello all. I am trying to install a sharp mx2600 n printer on my ubuntu system. I downloaded the correct driver and added the printer to ubuntu. When i try to print the printer warms up but prints no page. Can anyone help?
[12:59] <Spikius> kernel only brings you support for a ext4
[12:59] <phix> abchirk: I dont use it
[12:59] <lizzzzard> progre55: or whatever americans say
[12:59] <abchirk> Spikius hehe no... just wondering how can I get support for this filesystem?
[12:59] <phix> abchirk: for that reson
[12:59] <MarkJones> That darn bot needs some new AI
[12:59] <kandinsk1> preferred hex editor for changing text strings in a program?
[12:59] <lizzzzard> JPSman: what you are downloading is likely the release candidate or a fake.
[12:59] <Guest86118> do i need to setup any AV's or spyware on my linux installation?
[13:00] <kandinsk1> I have the source but I can't make it compile, so I am going for the dirty approach
[13:00] <rumpel> @guest why?
[13:00] <Pici> Guest86118: Not unless you're hosting files for Windows users and want to be extra secure.
[13:00] <dfs> i have loaded the ubuntu installation cd and i dont find any software on it in synaptic package manager. does the cd not come with any software packages
[13:00] <phix> lizzzzard: look on ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[13:00] <Spikius> abchirk well if you use .. 8.04 or 8.10 then its more or less EASY if youll do it on partition that can be unmounted easily
[13:00] <phix> lizzzzard: the official site is a fake too?
[13:00] <znik> anyone aware of any open source summer programs like google summer of code?
[13:00] <Pici> phix: Its not out. Please stop posting links.
[13:00] <progre55> lizzzzard, oops, sorry mam :) didnt know you were a lady =)
[13:00] <phix> Pici: ok
[13:00] <phix> haha
[13:00] <phix> well I guess I will go to sleep then :(
[13:00] <Spikius> youll need kernel and fs driver if i remember it correctly
[13:00] <Oli``> Guest11562: If you're downloading dodgy stuff and sharing it with Windows machines, getting some anti-virus might be something to consider. Less of an issue for other malware though.
[13:01] <abchirk> Spikius I have 8.10 and I can create ext4 but I can't mount it
[13:01] <MarkJones> ok im outa here its just redundant questions over and over.later guys
[13:01] <comair> hello all. I am trying to install a sharp mx2600 n printer on my ubuntu system. I downloaded the correct driver and added the printer to ubuntu. When i try to print the printer warms up but prints no page. Can anyone help?
[13:01] <Guest86118> Pici, i'm not hosting any files for Windows Users but i do want to be extra secure..
[13:01] <xarvh> Spikius: ok, thanks, i'll messa round with sudo
[13:01] <lizzzzard> phix: I imagine this would be what this page links to? http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/beta
[13:01] <Pici> Guest86118: Theres no chance that you yourself will become infected.
[13:01] <bouma> loafers
[13:02] <bouma> seems like loafers left
[13:02] <znik> anyone aware of any open source summer programs like google summer of code?
[13:02] <Pici> !ot
[13:02] <Pici> !party
[13:02] <Guest86118> Pici, even for spywares?
[13:02] <Pici> Guest86118: Indeed.
[13:02] <Spikius> abchirk
[13:02] <Guest86118> Pici, tnx
[13:02] <dfs> how do i install programs in ubuntu without internet connection. that is by using the installation cd. heard that it contains some extra software. after all it was a big download
[13:02] <Spikius> did you tried looking at http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-convert-ext3-to-ext4-file-system.html or smth like this?
[13:02] <kees-> hm, partman doesn't detect my harddisk; but fdisk (and the kernel etc does).. is there any way i can manually do the things partman does, and skip over it to 'install the base system'? aka; what does partman do :P
[13:02] <bouma> i was going to say i can download the webstart standalone kgs client.. and it works.. but my firefox still wont play java.. but i dont care as much, cause ive got the two java programs i need most to run standalone
[13:02] <sourcemaker> how can I install the ubuntu server with encrypted FS (LUKS LVM) like the alternative ubuntu installation?
[13:02] <Oli``> Pici: That's a dangerous statement.. There's always a chance.
[13:02] <phix> lizzzzard: look at it --> lrwxrwxrwx    1 1000     1000           37 Apr 23 07:43 ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso -> ../.pool/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso
[13:02] <bouma> still 64 bit java has evaded me, ive pretty much given up
[13:03] <phix> lizzzzard: does that look beta to you?
[13:03] <bouma> lol
[13:03] <comair> hello all. I am trying to install a sharp mx2600 n printer on my ubuntu system. I downloaded the correct driver and added the printer to ubuntu. When i try to print the printer warms up but prints no page. Can anyone help?
[13:03] <lizzzzard> phix http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/beta links there.
[13:03] <phix> bouma: 64bit java ay, they have long long;s? :)
[13:03] <Lint01> I've suddenly lost the sound, how can I troubleshoot it?
[13:03] <bouma> btw will 9.04 fix 64 bit java for me ?
[13:03] <abchirk> Spikius no.. *look* :)
[13:03] <Spikius> :)
[13:03] <lizzzzard> phix so yeah, looks beta to me
[13:03] <mib_7ppdsi> my computer with ubuntu 8.10 won't boot anymore (modprobe abnormal exit), can anybody here help me with this probleme?
[13:03] <bouma> phix: hrm, yeah i cant get 64 bit java to work
[13:03] <phix> lizzzzard: hmmm. interesting
[13:03] <abchirk> I just found an howto in espanol... but no hablo espanol :P
[13:04] <lightpriest_> 9.04 is still RC?
[13:04] <Pici> Yes.
[13:04] <bouma> phix: i mean i cant get java to work under firefox, as a plugin, with sun.
[13:04] <phix> bouma: how would 64bit java work? I mean there is no primitive for a 64bit number, only a 32bit one
[13:04] <phix> primitive datatype that is
[13:04] <abchirk> Spikius but the problem is that my kernel doesn't support it, I guess because he doesn't know the filesystem. :(
[13:04] <dfs> is it just me or does ubuntu suck.
[13:04] <iceroot> dfs: its only you
[13:04] <lightpriest_> dfs, it's just you ;p
[13:04] <bouma> phix: no real*8's or complex*16's ?
[13:04] <phix> dfs: debian for the win :D
[13:05] <lizzzzard> I am out of here, just the same questions again and again today. Maybe later. Seeya
[13:05] <Spikius> abchirk you just said that kernel SUPPORTS it.. so ...
[13:05] <phix> bouma: ?
[13:05] <Spikius> does it or does it not?
[13:05] <lightpriest_> phix, testing or stable?
[13:05] <bouma> phix: fortran
[13:05] <Spikius> !jaunty
[13:05] <abchirk> Spikius I thought he has to... but he doesn't ;)
[13:05] <Mylisto> I eventually want to update to jaunty from 8.4  whats the chance that something can go wrong?
[13:05] <phix> bouma: I know nothing about fortran, he are talking about java
[13:05] <bouma> phix: double prec..
[13:05] <Nataliee> http://www.ihateyounatalie.com/?id=1426169
[13:05] <Nataliee> http://www.ihateyounatalie.com/?id=1426169
[13:05] <FloodBot2> Nataliee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:05] <phix> the only thing I know about fortran is to stay away from it
[13:06] <kendrick> oh noes. my firefox!?!?!?!
[13:06] <bouma> phix: well you started talking about programming.. i just want to get firefox java to work
[13:06] <dfs> iceroot this thing is worse than windows it does not even have proper shortcut keys
[13:06] <Spikius> abchirk well if you know what ur doing, you can manually compile your kernel
[13:06] <hbekel> abchirk: zcat /proc/config.gz | grep EXT4
[13:06] <bouma> phix: under 64 bit ubuntu 8.10 .. do you think 9.04 will fix all my problems
[13:06] <phix> bouma: so what does 64bit have to do with it?
[13:06] <phix> bouma: it is still a 32bit binary though
[13:06] <Lint01> I've suddenly lost the sound, how can I troubleshoot it?
[13:06] <abchirk> Spikius hm yes... :/ isn't there any module
[13:06] <dfs> i was expecting ubuntu to have atleast some basic shortcut keys
[13:06] <g_> is it a good idea to upgrade right now?
[13:07] <dfs> enough with it
[13:07] <Spikius> abchirk hell knows..
[13:07] <phix> bouma: I was put off by you saying 64bit java
[13:07] <abchirk> hbekel I haven't this config....
[13:07] <abchirk> hehe
[13:07] <lightpriest_> dfs, you could define them in gnome
[13:07] <bouma> phix: is it? so ubuntu 64 will run 32 and 64bit software together ? am i able to use 32bit java plugin with 64bit firefox ?
[13:07] <phix> bouma: of corse
[13:07] <bouma> phix: do i need to switch to 32bit firefox ?
[13:07] <GNUix> wow talk about a long dance.. just ask the quesiton does 9.04 has the new 64bit sun java plugin
[13:07] <lightpriest_> dfs, depends on the window manager you use
[13:07] <bouma> GNUix: does it ?
[13:07] <lightpriest_> lol
[13:07] <hbekel> abchirk: if you want help, be specific
[13:08] <GNUix> bouma: couldn't tell you, I downloaded it and installed it myself
[13:08] <bouma> does 9.04 has the new 64bit sun java plugin?
[13:08] <kendrick> so adept told me some updates were available. they all seemed to be firefox3 and xulrunner-related (are there logs i can look at to find out precisely what was updated?)
[13:08] <Gun_Smoke> hbekel, what no glass ball?
[13:08] <kendrick> (this is on 8.10 btw)
[13:08] <dfs> lightpriest_: sorry guys honestly i dont see shortcut keys for those three things on the top no underlined letters either. places and system
[13:08] <abchirk> hbekel I created a ext4 partition under ubuntu 8.10 but I can't mount it.. -> unknown filesystem type ext4
[13:08] <bouma> GNUix: thats the go is it ? downloading and building your own deb ?
[13:08] <phix> bouma: that could work, although I don't think a 32bit plugin would have any issues running on a 64bit application
[13:08] <kendrick> now when i launch firefox i get a grey window with no menu bar. there is the throbber at the top right.
[13:08] <hbekel> abchirk: what did the command i told you return?
[13:09] <Gun_Smoke> 1600+ today eh... release must be soon.. lol..
[13:09] <phix> bouma: unless of corse there at coding differences in the plugin api
[13:09] <GNUix> bouma: No, I just downloaded the binary, ran it and symlinked it to my plugin folder
[13:09] <kendrick> it seems to respond to Ctrl+O (open dialog appears) and Ctrl+L (a completely empty tiny window appears)
[13:09] <kendrick> Gun_Smoke: heh
[13:09] <dfs> for applications thereis alt+f1 .but for system and places no shortcut key
[13:09] <abchirk> hbekel I haven't config.gz
[13:09] <phix> bouma: I would say that would be pretty standard to allow plugins to work in the first place ;)
[13:09] <lightpriest_> dfs, what? :)
[13:09] <comair> hello all. I am trying to install a sharp mx2600 n printer on my ubuntu system. I downloaded the correct driver and added the printer to ubuntu. When i try to print the printer warms up but prints no page. Can anyone help?
[13:09] <lightpriest_> dfs, what about ALT+f1?
[13:09] <dfs> for applications thereis alt+f1 .but for system and places no shortcut key
[13:09] <lizzzzard> kendrick: did you restart it? it sometimes behaves that way after updates
[13:09] <abchirk> But its a standard kernel from intrepid hbekel
[13:10] <kendrick> any ideas how to diagnose what broke? or at least roll back to the previous version?
[13:10] <GNUix> phix: It isn't rocked science 32bit plugins don't work with 64bit browsers without middleware..
[13:10] <kendrick> lizzzzard: yes. i noticed it wasn't going to an URL, realized that adept had finished, so i quit and restarted.
[13:10] <kendrick> that's when it just came up grey
[13:10] <dfs> in windows i used to use keybreeze to launch my applications but in ubuntu i am having to use the stupid mouse
[13:10] <kendrick> dfs - tried kde? ;)
[13:11] <lightpriest_> dfs, how long did it took to find out about keybreeze?
[13:11] <phix> GNUix: you dont say
[13:11] <kendrick> hrm. now my big grey broken firefox window does not seem to respond to Ctrl+O or Ctrl-L shortcuts :(
[13:11] <phix> GNUix: most new apps would have that compatibilty, otherwise it is a shit app :)
[13:11] <kendrick> if i launch firefox from a term and give it an URL, it seems to load the page (though not render it), because i see the title in the titlebar
[13:11] <yeayea911> hi
[13:11] <lizzzzard> dfs: there is an app that allows the same thing, i cant remember its name right now, will tell you when it comes back to me
[13:12] <kendrick> e.g., i now have a useless gre window with the title "Google - Mozilla Firefox"
[13:12] <hbekel> abchirk: do you have /usr/src/linux-<kernel-version>/.config?
[13:12] <lightpriest_> dfs, you could simply use alt+f2 or you could define a combination per command
[13:12] <joaopinto> dfs, please feel free to write a bug report explaining your problem
[13:12] <GNUix> phix: why would you want to use middleware to wrap a 32bit plugin to work in a 64bit browser if you can just use the 64bit plugin
[13:12] <kendrick> btw - i had no funky firefox plugins. just firebug.
[13:12] <dfs> but why didnt they put any shortcut key that was like obvius
[13:12] <Type3Singularity> dfs: There are a few dozen alternative to keybreeze
[13:13] <brinstar> can someone unban me from ubuntu release party?
[13:13] <abchirk> hbekel yes... and there is EXT4DEV as module and EXT4DEV all yes
[13:14] <Gun_Smoke> brinstar, haha.. how'd you get that?
[13:14] <lightpriest_> lol
[13:14] <Mylisto> what did you do brinstar:?
[13:14] <dfs> ok i dont want to annoy u guys too much . i see there are enough friendly people in the ubuntu communuty though at any rate.even if ubuntu sucks.
[13:14] <Mylisto> bad language?
[13:14] <brinstar> posted a link :S
[13:14] <brinstar> i didnt know that was considered a deadly sin
[13:14] <lizzzzard> dfs: you might be interested in gnome-do: http://do.davebsd.com/
[13:14] <Mylisto> what link?
[13:14] <hbekel> abchirk: did you modprobe ext4dev
[13:14] <brinstar> the releases dot ubuntu one
[13:14] <kendrick> hrm. moving ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla-bak and launching firefox does not help
[13:14] <alex2> !jaunty
[13:14] <lightpriest_> dfs, what's "obvious" in windows is open for you to customize in ubuntu/linux
[13:15] <kendrick> and, in fact, a new .mozilla is not created
[13:15] <brinstar> not like everyone doesnt know it anyway
[13:16] <brinstar> can someone unban me
[13:16] <Gun_Smoke> brinstar, I'd bet your going to sit this one out..
[13:16] <bazhang> brinstar, /j #ubuntu-ops
[13:16] <abchirk> hbekel ah if I use ext4dev as fs I can mount it... but not ext4 only, whats the difference?
[13:16] <GNUix> somebody should update the bot and include a timezone because in Korea it is april 23rd
[13:16] <brinstar> ok bazhang i'll ask
[13:16] <yeayea911> where is my 9.04 system update
[13:16] <yeayea911> :)
[13:17] <kendrick> dpkg.log shows me that the packages it updated this morning were:  "firefox-3.0-branding 3.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.2
[13:17] <kendrick>  3.0.9+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.1"
[13:17] <kendrick> err rather
[13:17]  * kendrick sighs
[13:17] <hbekel> abchirk: your kernel still has the unstable development version. You should upgrade to a 2.6.30 kernel, and even then it's on your own risk. ext4 is pretty new
[13:17] <Imker> die!
[13:18] <kendrick> "firefox-3.0-branding xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support xulrunner-1.9 firefox-3.0-gnome-support firefox-3.0 firefox firefox-gnome-support"
[13:18] <JPSman> "it is not out yet"
[13:18] <kendrick> so, uh... how do i downgrade?
[13:18] <abchirk> hbekel is it easy with 8.10 to upgrade the kernel?
[13:18] <JPSman> kendrick - download an older version and install it
[13:18] <rski> abchirk: Not too easy if you haven't compiled a kernel before.
[13:19] <Guba> when will came new ubuntu
[13:19] <hbekel> abchirk: upgrading a kernel isn't too hard if you know what you're doing
[13:19] <rski> abchirk: also what kind of upgrade are you talking about
[13:19] <Doble> can anyone tell me how to run a scipt? I'm trying "sudo Linux/install.sh" but I recieve "Command not found"
[13:19] <abchirk> Ok I thought I can do it over synaptic. :) rski about ext4 :)
[13:19] <Mr_Kaizer> Okey...Ubuntu is freaking me out now...
[13:19] <kendrick> i seem to have older ones in my apt cache
[13:20] <lightpriest_> Doble, what do you want to do?
[13:20] <Guba> how much is a "coming soon"?
[13:20] <acr0nym> Doble, I'm not sure but I think you might have to put ./ infront of it
[13:20] <rski> abchirk: easiest way will be to wait untill 9.04 and upgrade to that and it will support etx, it will be released pretty soon today or tomorow.
[13:20] <acr0nym> like ./install.sh
[13:20] <rski> ext4*
[13:20] <Mr_Kaizer> It's been broken for 3 days now, been unable to get the desktop to load properly, now it suddenly works without me having done anything O-o
[13:20] <hbekel> abchirk: you shouldn't use ect4dev for important data. if you just play around with it, don't mind upgrading the kernel
[13:20] <acr0nym> you have to cd first into Linux though
[13:20] <JPSman> so the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is the kubuntu uses KDE and ubuntu uses gnome?
[13:20] <Doble> lightpriest_: I am trying to install xenserver tools ... i have to run the install script to begin the install.
[13:20] <lightpriest_> rski, I installed the rc and ext4 is not the default
[13:20] <henkpoley> Mr_Kaizer: You mean X11 didn't run? Maybe it now started the VESA fallback ?
[13:20] <lightpriest_> Doble, have you downloaded the source package?
[13:21] <henkpoley> Mr_Kaizer: or your hardware is failing
[13:21] <abchirk> hbekel yeah its only for a small debian for my laptop :)
[13:21] <rski> lightpriest_: Yes. but that's not what we talked about.
[13:21] <Aberration23> Hi all!
[13:21] <Type3Singularity> JPSman: Basically, theres a load of different desktop applications though
[13:21] <alex2> i cant wait for jaunty
[13:21] <hbekel> hbekel: i don't know how heavily patched the ubuntu kernels are. using a vanilla 2.6.30 might break stuff. better wait for ubuntu to ship 2.6.30 if you want a stable ext4
[13:21] <Aberration23> I tried to install tomboy but my internet connection failed me in the middle of it. I cant' remove the brocken tomboy...help
[13:21] <DaveCo> !jaunty
[13:21] <kendrick> CRAP!!!!!!!
[13:22] <sourcemaker> ubuntu server contains the function: Encrypted private directory... how can I encrypted the whole fs?
[13:22] <hbekel> abchirk: and although ext4 support is considered ready now, it's still very fresh
[13:22] <Doble> lightpriest_: no, I got it out of the ISO and copied it to the server guest using SSH
[13:22] <kendrick> kendrick@dell-desktop:/var/cache/apt/archives$ sudo dpkg -i firefox-3.0-branding_3.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.2_i386.deb firefox-3.0_3.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.2_i386.deb firefox-3.0-gnome-support_3.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.2_i386.deb xulrunner-1.9_1.9.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.1_i386.deb xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support_1.9.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.1_i386.deb
[13:22] <kendrick> blah blah warning downgrading...
[13:22] <Mr_Kaizer> henkpoley: Unsure...I've been suspecting HW error, but it ran just fine from the Live CD, even though it wouldn't boot normaly.
[13:22] <kendrick> but it's STILL giving me this weird grey window!!?! OMG
[13:22] <Spikius> tsimpson are you available? :)
[13:22] <abchirk> hbekel I know thats why I want to test it.. and see if its really faster. :)
[13:22]  * Vegar looks for the countdown timer
[13:23] <Mr_Kaizer> sudo release-9.04 :D
[13:23] <abchirk> hbekel or I download an 9.04 iso and make with that the ext4 and the debootstrap
[13:23] <tsimpson> Spikius: not exactly
[13:23] <hadis> anyone can help me , i cant install  stellarium-0.10.0.tgz
[13:23] <lightpriest_> Doble, i'm not sure if that will get you a good result... have you searched it in the repositories?
[13:23] <henkpoley> hadis: What is it saying ?
[13:24] <henkpoley> hadis: pastbin the error
[13:24] <joaopinto> hadis, isn't stelarium available from the repositories ?
[13:24] <zcat[1]> hadis, any reason you're not installing from the repos?
[13:24] <armagheddonsgw> hi, someone help me please... some arse shut down my comp while it was updating ubuntu... now it doesnt work. atm im using the live CD cos every OS on my comp is buggered.. anyway i can repair ubuntu? it refuses to start cos of some file or... whatever... that it cant find/ connect to
[13:24] <henkpoley> hadis: pastebin even
[13:24] <Doble> lightpriest_: no, I tried "sudo apt-get install xen-tools" but didn't find anything, how can I search for it?
[13:24] <Spikius> well a quick question to u theh > do u know in what form in #ubuntu-release-party chan will be announced release? i would like to do "highlite" on that text so i would hear it :)
[13:24] <hbekel> abchirk: yes, you might want to do that
[13:24] <lightpriest_> Doble, what exactly do you need again? i'll look it up
[13:24] <pan1nx> anybody that can explain why the dm-snapshot.ko is not in linux-image-generic but in linux-image-386 only?
[13:24] <Mr_Kaizer> My monitor keeps showing up as "Unknown", is there any way to fix that?
[13:24] <Boohbah> !info xen-tools
[13:25] <dansmith91> Hey, if we can't ask 'when' (for the release), where can we ask that?
[13:25] <abchirk> hbekel I guess its better :) thanks for you help
[13:25] <hbekel> abchirk: i wouldn't for a production machine
[13:25] <Boohbah> Doble: make sure to enable the universe repo
[13:25] <Doble> lightpriest_: sorry, I just got it working ... should have tried that first
[13:25] <abchirk> hbekel yeah me too... its just a laptop for wardrivin. :)
[13:25] <armagheddonsgw> umm... help please?
[13:25] <lightpriest_> :)
[13:25] <Doble> boohbah: yeah I just missed a really obvious fix hehe, thanks :)
[13:25] <Doble> thanks for help both
[13:25] <DASPRiD> dansmith91, soon™
[13:25] <Boohbah> Doble: welcome :)
[13:26] <yeayea911> where is my 9.04 system update
[13:26] <DASPRiD> yeayea911, soon™
[13:26] <DASPRiD> or just:
[13:26] <rski> yeayea911: not released yet
[13:26] <DASPRiD> yeayea911, update-manager -d
[13:26] <JPSman> yeayea911 - what version are you currently using?
[13:26] <yeayea911> 8.10
[13:26] <rjharv> http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[13:26] <rjharv> 9.04 is there
[13:26] <rjharv> :P
[13:27] <fabzor3> out to ask about 9.04
[13:27] <rski> it's not released untill it's announced on the mailinglist
[13:27] <fabzor3> and still am
[13:27] <rjharv> just teh front page hasn't updated
[13:27]  * kendrick gives up
[13:27] <kendrick> i need to get back to bed
[13:27] <fabzor3> whats the deal is it out yet?
[13:27] <kendrick> yergh <:^(
[13:27] <Pici> !isitout
[13:27] <rski> everything before that i a lie
[13:27] <rski> fabzor3: correct
[13:27] <aheckler> rjharv: but i suppose that is the RC, not the "official" release
[13:27] <fabzor3> but they didnt update thier web page?@!?!
[13:27] <rjharv> no its not the rc
[13:27] <DASPRiD> aheckler, doesnt make any diffrence
[13:27] <yeayea911> nothing in update manager yet
[13:27] <rjharv> i think they are waiting for the mirrors to sync
[13:27] <alex2>  /join #ubuntu-release-party
[13:27] <alex2> xD
[13:27] <DASPRiD> aheckler, better do it now than later when the server bandwidths are all in use ;)
[13:27] <Aberration23> hello?
[13:27] <Aberration23> my connection is dead again...
[13:27] <Aberration23> or not??
[13:27] <fabzor3> k
[13:28] <fabzor3> ﻿/join #ubuntu-release-party
[13:28] <J-_> "USB Startup Disk Creator" Will that let me install Ubuntu from USB once I get an image on the usb drive?
[13:28] <JPSman> Aberration23: maybe
[13:28] <aheckler> DASPRiD: well i can't really seed the ISO back if i'm busy installing, so i like to wait until the torrents are pretty busy
[13:28] <Type3Singularity> Its not the RC the md5sums are different, they have to push out the iso to the mirrors so it ends up in the release.ubuntu.org before its officially 'released' and them people in here pretend its not the 'release' because its not 'announced'
[13:28] <yeayea911> JPSman and DADPRiD nothing in update manager yet
[13:29] <DASPRiD> yeayea911, "update-manager -d" ?
[13:29] <Type3Singularity> There is also a small chance that there is some major bug and they have to fix it at the last minute
[13:29] <JPSman> yeayea911 - thats because "its not out yet"
[13:29] <yeayea911> I did update-manager -d nothing
[13:29] <lantay77> what's the best command line bittorrent client? I want to grab the new ubuntu release today
[13:29] <yeayea911> happened
[13:29] <DASPRiD> yeayea911, thats unusuall...
[13:29] <rski> lantay77: rtorrent works good for me
[13:29] <rjharv> Type3Singularity is correct
[13:29] <zaggynl> lantay77: I'm a fan of rtorrent
[13:29] <yeayea911> weird
[13:29] <kandinsk1> so which Hex editor do you recommend?
[13:30] <rski> lantay77: but there's in 99% of cases no "best" client
[13:30] <rski> for any type of job
[13:30] <rski> just what you prefer.
[13:30] <lantay77> yeah.. but i knew of none for command line until now =p
[13:30] <rski> and that in terms is the best client for you
[13:30] <lantay77> is ctorrent good?
[13:30] <alex2> where i can find all Ubuntu rls names ?
[13:30] <Pici> !codenames | alex2
[13:30] <rski> alex2: the wiki should  have them or wikipedia
[13:30] <Type3Singularity> lantay77: I like deluge, it has GUI / Webinterface and console. I'm not sure how the console compares to rtorrent though
[13:30] <alex2> thank you
[13:31] <lantay77> oh
[13:31] <defrysk> transmission does the job for me
[13:31] <danlii> Why does linux_logo default to Debian logo in older releases of Ubuntu and to FreeBSD logo in jaunty?
[13:31] <Type3Singularity> Deluge also allows for remote GUI clients :)
[13:31] <DASPRiD> " Karmic
[13:31] <DASPRiD> 	
[13:31] <DASPRiD> Koala
[13:31] <DASPRiD> 	
[13:31] <DASPRiD> 9.10
[13:31] <FloodBot2> DASPRiD: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:31] <DASPRiD> 	
[13:31] <defrysk> deluge tends to use resources
[13:32] <rski> danlii: that's not true for me. where do you see it?
[13:33] <italomaia> Where's 9.04???
[13:33] <aheckler> *sigh*
[13:33] <italomaia> today is 23 already!!
[13:33] <Pici> !isitout | italomaia
[13:33] <Boohbah> italomaia: strange, you're the first person to ask about that today
[13:34] <blue112> " Ubuntu 9.04 is not out yet, please don't ask when it will be"
[13:34] <blue112> Ok xD
[13:34]  * Mohero sits twiddling his thumbs waiting for the 9.04 release..... it's now 13:33 in the country the press release was in....
[13:34] <danlii> rski: Just by running linux_logo without altering the config file.
[13:34] <italomaia> rsrsrs, going to #ubuntu-release-party then
[13:34] <BoltClock> i have had problems with intrepid regarding i think alsa and networkmanager, and im back to hardy. does jaunty fix the issue, hopefully?
[13:34] <blue112> Anyway hello :p
[13:34] <italomaia> blue112, k
[13:34] <Anakin> did anyone had freezing problems with ubuntu 9.04 rc ? when I try to run apt-get it freezes my entire system
[13:34] <Boohbah> BoltClock: there's only one way to find out
[13:34] <defrysk> the Ubuntu release-switch-operator is still sleeping
[13:34] <Mohero> Anakin: nope
[13:35] <joaopinto> BoltClock, unless you reported the problem and followed up it's resolution, you will just know by testing...
[13:35] <Mohero> defrysk: where is he still sleeping? I have acattle-prod... ;-)
[13:35] <Mohero> and... what's wrong with CRON :P
[13:35] <BoltClock> joaopinto: i never did resolve it... sigh
[13:35] <alex2> not out yet
[13:36] <BoltClock> 7.10 totally could not install, 8.04 worked perfectly, 8.10 had alsa and networkmanager shenanigans. gah
[13:36] <chazco> Hi... how can I check files against a list of md5sums?
[13:36] <finaltune_> tsimpson: did you tried to ban me? lol
[13:36] <joaopinto> chazco, md5sum file, then check the results
[13:36] <Boohbah> chazco: md5sum file
[13:36] <Mohero> well, one of the guys in the office is on 9.04 RC, he's a SUSE user, but... that wouldn't instal on his system, neither would Fedora, Ubuntu would though ;-)
[13:37] <Casey> when is 9.04 coming out?
[13:37] <DASPRiD> Casey, today
[13:37] <Pici> !isitout | Casey
[13:37] <chazco> joaopinto & Boohbah - There used to be a way to make it check against a list and print something like "file1 OK" etc... trying to remember how to do that
[13:37] <sipior> chazco: if you've a long list to check, try "md5sum -c <filename>"
[13:37]  * Mohero changes topic to: Ubuntu 9.04 isn't yet released, stop asking...
[13:37] <Mohero> :P
[13:37] <DASPRiD> Mohero, heh
[13:37] <Mr_Kaizer> I'm trying to save a new X Configuration file, but the system won't let me. What to do?
[13:37] <BoltClock> lol
[13:37] <sipior> chazco: where the file given is the md5sum list
[13:37] <DASPRiD> Mohero, people should just upgrade to the rc if they cant wait, its stable :)
[13:37] <chazco> sipior - Ah thanks, thats what I was looking for... thought it was more difficult :)
[13:38] <Mohero> I agree, unfortunatly I'm not allowed to, because it has the "RC" label :(
[13:38] <goliath_> bonjour
[13:38] <skeeter_101> I am running Ubuntu  8.10 Intrepid and have configured my browser "Firefox 3" with mplayer to play embeded videos and on a few sites that I visit often the player buffers the vid and loads and plays, but mplayer does not adjust the size of the vid to fit in the player window.  It's like I am only seeing 1/3 of the vid.  Is there a way I can make an adjustment to have the vid adjust to size of the window mplayer uses?
[13:38] <DASPRiD> Mohero, whats wrong about that?
[13:38] <Mohero> not officially released ;)
[13:38] <Pici> !party
[13:38] <Mohero> unfortunately, it's a company policy
[13:38] <Boohbah> Mohero: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[13:38] <Type3Singularity> Or update to the "its not released yet" iso on release.ubuntu.org
[13:39] <Mohero> one that I WROTE! - but I didn't put that in, Boss added that bit in :(
[13:39] <skeeter_101> One site that I am talking about is "www.3boutdoors.com"
[13:39] <Mohero> Boohbah: wasn't me
[13:39] <Boohbah> chazco: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[13:39] <goliath_> hi, i have a samsung R610 and i am french
[13:39] <goliath_> i resolved a problem on samsung
[13:39] <joaopinto> Mohero, a company policy just testing/using a new release when it's final, it's kind of flawed, on a company you are expected to test new releases sooner
[13:40] <chazco> Boohbah - Thanks :)
[13:40] <Pici> !fr | goliath_
[13:40] <Mohero> joaopinto: yes, but not on my main desktop...
[13:40] <Mohero> joaopinto: I have it on my test machine, runs fine, but can't put it on here till release...
[13:41] <PeteyLustig> hi everybody
[13:41] <Mohero> well, I say here, that could be anywhere, ssh is a wonderful thing, I'm all over the place at the moment
[13:42] <skeeter_101> I am running Ubuntu  8.10 Intrepid and have configured my browser "Firefox 3" with mplayer to play embeded videos and on a few sites that I visit often the player buffers the vid and loads and plays, but mplayer does not adjust the size of the vid to fit in the player window.  It's like I am only seeing 1/3 of the vid.  Is there a way I can make an adjustment to have the vid adjust to size of the window mplayer uses?  A site
[13:42] <skeeter_101>  that shows me this issue is "www.3boutdoors.com".......
[13:42] <oipat> 9.04 today, right?
[13:42] <BoltClock> oipat: thereabouts
[13:42] <dt3k> oipat: i think its already out
[13:42] <plsd> dt3k, no
[13:42] <joaopinto> dt3k, it is not !
[13:42] <BoltClock> dt3k: no
[13:42] <dt3k> http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/
[13:43] <DASPRiD> Mohero, oh, btw, april, 12009, will the ubuntu release be 9.04 again then?
[13:43] <joaopinto> it is out only when it's official announced
[13:43] <dt3k> mind explaining what this is then?
[13:43] <brutalis> When the time comes: How do I upgrade my server from from 8.10 to 9.04 from the remote terminal?
[13:43] <oipat> dt3k: Thanks
[13:43] <Boohbah> DASPRiD: ten thousand years in the future?
[13:43] <DASPRiD> brutalis, see ubuntu.com
[13:43] <BoltClock> brutalis: i think its sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:43] <DASPRiD> Boohbah, ya ;)
[13:43] <Type3Singularity> "Its not the RC the md5sums are different, they have to push out the iso to the mirrors so it ends up in the release.ubuntu.org before its officially 'released' and them people in here pretend its not the 'release' because its not 'announced'"
[13:43] <Mohero> DASPRiD: yes :P
[13:43] <erUSUL> !upgrade | brutalis
[13:43] <Pici> !party
[13:43] <BoltClock> oh, remote terminal? then i dunno
[13:44] <joaopinto> dt3k, that is an image expected to be final, when announced, but not before that
[13:44] <Mohero> numbering is flawed...
[13:44] <Mohero> next year, the order will be wrong, due to it bein 9.04 and not 09.04
[13:44] <Mohero> :)
[13:44] <goliath_> i have a server do you know "SMEserver" ?
[13:44] <DASPRiD> Mohero, heh
[13:44] <DASPRiD> 10.04... sounds nice tho
[13:45] <joaopinto> Type3Singularity, we do not pretende nothing, it is not the final, until it's announced, it may become the final, but is NOT
[13:45] <skeeter_101> Can someone please assist me with an issue with the adjustment of mplayer in browser?
[13:45] <BoltClock> joaopinto: is this something like incase a last minute update or whatever gets dropped in there?
[13:46] <joaopinto> BoltClock, yes, that's is why is a bad practice to assume something is released before it is announced, also because of mirroring concerns
[13:46] <mrintegrity> whats the limmit on number of users in an irc channel? is it as much as the server has ram to deal with it or what?
[13:46] <Type3Singularity> BoltClock: I think mostly its because it needs to be pushed out to mirrors, but there is a chance of some major bug that means it must be pulled
[13:47] <bobbob1016> We should make the "Ubuntu 9.04 is not out yet, please don't ask when it will be" from the header on the channel be a timed pop-up, so we get less questions later on
[13:47] <joaopinto> mrintegrity, it depends on the irc server software you use
[13:47] <Mal3ko> wow Ubuntu 9.04 is out..found the iso
[13:47] <erUSUL> !ot > mrintegrity
[13:47] <Type3Singularity> The last 3 or so releases, the release.ubuntu.org was the final
[13:47] <Boohbah> mrintegrity: ask in #freenode
[13:47] <ganimo> where can i find the ISO?
[13:47] <lianimator> will ubuntu 9.04 support wacom tablet's expresskeys out the box?
[13:47] <erUSUL> Mal3ko: no it's not out
[13:47] <unr3a1> hey all
[13:47] <bromide> bobbob1016 - you'd think that'd work, wouldn't you?
[13:47] <bobbob1016> bromide, Well, a bit more than the text no one seems to read.
[13:47] <Mal3ko> erUSUL: ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/
[13:48] <BoltClock> joaopinto: hmm yeah, like some projects like phpBB that keep a release as RC unless they can finally safely promote it to gold?
[13:48] <Hosein-mec> date of desktop link is for 20-Apr-2009 ! is this final ?
[13:48] <erUSUL> !itsout
[13:48] <joaopinto> BoltClock, right
[13:48] <BoltClock> Type3Singularity: hmm
[13:48] <Boohbah> ganimo: http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/
[13:48] <md456>  hi there, is it possible to run a program as a User xyz from /etc/rc.local script - taks runs as root by default, I need something like a sudo but otherway round (userdo doesnt exist !?)
[13:48] <Mal3ko> erUSUL: so i am right :)
[13:48] <joaopinto> Hosein-mec, there is no final release yet, only when announced
[13:48] <Mohero> while $NOTRELEASED; do; writechan< "it isn't out yet..."; sleep 5; done
[13:48] <Mohero> *ahem*
[13:48] <Boohbah> Hosein-mec: only when the release manager makes it official
[13:48] <erUSUL> !party | Mal3ko Boohbah
[13:48] <erUSUL> Mal3ko: no you are not
[13:48] <bromide> bobbob1016 - yeah, I get the funny feeling they wouldn't read it if it's spammed to the channel every now and then either
[13:49] <sipior> md456: check out the "-u" switch for sudo.
[13:49] <forces> erUSUL, :O
[13:49] <Boohbah> erUSUL: i'll join the party in a few hours with my eeepc :)
[13:49] <forces> ya salio ubuntu 9.04?
[13:49] <erUSUL> !es | forces
[13:49] <unr3a1> will 9.04 be available in the update repository?
[13:49] <forces> pero tu hablas español
[13:50] <erUSUL> forces: not here
[13:50] <Trombone> Not now
[13:50] <forces> :O
[13:50] <bobbob1016> bromide, Well we'd be able to say "See the pop-up that you've been ignoring?"
[13:50] <forces> here only english
[13:50] <forces> erUSUL, is it out jet?
[13:50] <aprilhare> join #ubuntu+1
[13:50] <Boohbah> forces: no, ubottu hablas español
[13:50] <erUSUL> forces: exactly
[13:50] <md456> sipior - thx
[13:50] <Mohero> forces: while $NOTRELEASED; do; writechan< "it isn't out yet..."; sleep 5; done
[13:50] <erUSUL> forces: no it is not out join #ubuntu-release-party
[13:50] <BoltClock> Mohero: lOL
[13:50] <forces> * No puede entrar #ubuntu-release-party (Estás baneado).
[13:50] <forces> u.u
[13:50] <BoltClock> s/lOL/LOL
[13:51] <Mohero> BoltClock: thought someone might like that ... :)
[13:51] <erUSUL> forces: o.0!
[13:51] <unr3a1> erUSUL: if its not out, how is it on the releases pages?
[13:51] <Guba> does anybody can tell me when 9.04 can be downloaded
[13:51] <bromide> bobbob1016 - yeah, good point I guess
[13:51] <marko_d> OMG this is worse than the que when the ipod went out :)
[13:51] <erUSUL> unr3a1: ask in  #ubuntu-release-party
[13:51] <Mohero> please... someone with access change the topic.... :'(
[13:51]  * erUSUL This is a support channel
[13:51] <unr3a1> also, how can I make the install list of all installed applications?
[13:51] <Pici> Mohero: Its not out.
[13:51] <erUSUL> !clone | unr3a1
[13:52] <Pici> !isitout
[13:52] <Mohero> Pici: I know... look up in chan at my comments...
[13:52] <Boohbah> unr3a1: sudo dpkg -l |grep ii
[13:52] <Pici> Mohero: No one reads the topic anyway.
[13:52] <Mohero> I've not asked if it's out, i'm sensible, I look at the website and will only assume it is out when the site changes to "get it now"
[13:53] <dassouki> is there a way i can disable bluetooth from running on startup
[13:53] <Boohbah> unr3a1: sudo dpkg -l |grep ii |awk {'print $2'}
[13:53] <Mr_Kaizer> I'm trying to save a new X Configuration file, but the system won't let me, says I don't have permission. What to do?
[13:53] <Pici> Mal3ko: Its not out until the release managers announce it. Please don't post links.
[13:53] <dragoncheese> is there anyway to make the install .iso bootable on a usb flash drive?
[13:53] <Boohbah> Mr_Kaizer: sudo
[13:54] <oipat> Any downsides with the 64bit version? (like flash, drivers, etc)
[13:54] <bobbob1016> dragoncheese, Are you running ubuntu already or no?
[13:54] <sipior> dassouki: sure. head to /etc/rc2.d/. move the file "S25bluetooth" to "K25bluetooth".
[13:54] <dragoncheese> yes i'm runnding ubuntu
[13:54] <Trombone> Ubuntu 9.04 is aviable now !
[13:54] <erUSUL> oipat: flash works for me tm. the icedtea java ff plugin works on some sites (not in facebook :()
[13:54] <bazhang> !usb | dragoncheese
[13:54]  * sipior bangs is head against his desk.
[13:54] <bobbob1016> dragoncheese, 8.10?  If so, System->Administration->Create USB Startup
[13:54] <Mr_Kaizer> Boohbah: Err, I'm trying to to it from the NVIDIA control panel :/
[13:54] <bromide> unetbootin = win
[13:55] <dassouki> sipior: thanks :D
[13:55] <sipior> dassouki: yep, no trouble.
[13:55] <erUSUL> sipior: dassouki it is better to use update-rc.d or bum
[13:55] <chooish> Hi everyone! Is there any way of using a systemwide equalizer under Ubuntu?
[13:55] <Trombone> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/
[13:55] <lianimator> does anyone know a video editor that can fast-forward some parts of the video?
[13:55] <sipior> erUSUL: i don't particularly care for that.
[13:55] <bobbob1016> bromide, Isn't unetbootin for windows?  He's running Ubuntu.
[13:55] <sipior> erUSUL: matter of taste, i suppose.
[13:55] <marko_d> lianimator: try kdenlive
[13:56] <tsimpson> Trombone: don't post links until it's announced
[13:56] <tsimpson> !jaunty
[13:56] <marko_d> it is the k3b of video editors :)
[13:56] <bromide> bobbob1016 - it's multiplatform I think
[13:56] <bobbob1016> I can confirm, Jaunty is out
[13:56] <cheleo> jaunty out
[13:56] <bromide> bobbob1016 - yup, just checked, it's also for Linux
[13:56] <lianimator> jaunty out?? yay!
[13:56] <erUSUL> !itisout | bobbob1016
[13:56] <Trombone> tsimpson: It's for make a troll :p
[13:56] <erUSUL> !iitout | bobbob1016
[13:57] <erUSUL> !isitout | bobbob1016
[13:57] <bobbob1016> erUSUL, Did you check ubuntu.com?
[13:57] <alienkid10> !party
[13:57] <p-f> still not sure why I should care about a new release
[13:57] <beutlin> it is out
[13:57] <unr3a1> erUSUL, now, when I do that clone thing, will it cause problems in 9.04?  or would it be best to upgrade to 9.04 through the update repository
[13:57] <erUSUL> bobbob1016: did you check the topic of this channel?
[13:58] <erUSUL> unr3a1: it is up to you some prefer clean reinstalls and some others (lazy ones XD like me) prefer to upgrade
[13:58] <okanasik> its out guys have fun www.ubuntu.com
[13:58] <bobbob1016> erUSUL, Yes, that says it isn't out yet.  However it said that before the site updated.  No need to get hostile.
[13:58] <camiloyc> yes, is out... check main page of ubuntu
[13:58] <pawel_> hot to minimize or change workspace when playing fullscreen game? ctrl+alt+arrows does not work.
[13:59] <Type3Singularity> I think when its on the main page, its out, no matter what weird rule your are using to decide that
[13:59] <unr3a1> erUSUL, if I do upgrade, all my installed applications will still work, correct?
[13:59] <kbingham> i have an upgrade button :) yay
[13:59] <lianimator> marko_d: I have kdenlive now. which effect is the fast-forward effect?
[13:59] <erUSUL> unr3a1: nothing is perfect but i upgraded many times and have no major problems
[14:00] <forces> OUT!!
[14:00] <p-f> out?
[14:00] <dt3k> any torrent yet?
[14:00] <dt3k> yes
[14:00] <forces> ubuntu 9.04 is avaible for download
[14:00]  * sipior locks phasers on forces.
[14:00] <dt3k> www.ubuntu.com
[14:00] <FloodBot2> dt3k: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:00] <Tmi> cheers
[14:00] <p-f> and?
[14:00] <pawel_> yuhuu!!!
[14:00] <unr3a1> erUSUL, sweet.  will I have to do something special to my repositories to get 9.04 to populate in the update manager, or will it just populate by default?
[14:00] <alex2> not yet ?
[14:01] <BoltClock> i would say what i was about to say but im not keen on being banned for backseat modding so ill be quiet and just head over to the other chan...
[14:01] <erUSUL> unr3a1: shold appear a button on the update manager
[14:01] <pawel_> is it available in all languages instantly?
[14:01] <defrysk> someone better adjust the topic , its out
[14:01] <Linux_Time> "It is out."
[14:01] <unr3a1> erUSUL, sweet.  thanks...
[14:01] <Linux_Time> hm
[14:01] <bobbob1016> bromide, We do need a pop-up, saying "Check ubuntu.com first, we have already"
[14:02] <forces> use torrent
[14:02] <prateek> Changing the topic, sending the email to ubuntu-announce, changing the homepage, ... I wish all this happened simultaneously in a consistent way when the new release is made.
[14:02] <forces> cause im using mirror and go slowly
[14:02] <forces> ¬.¬
[14:02] <unr3a1> erUSUL, I see the button in update manager
[14:02] <bromide> bobbob1016 - you'd sorta hope people would check there first
[14:03] <alex2> ITS OUT
[14:03] <BoltClock> is this channel now open to jaunty support?
[14:03] <BoltClock> or do i still need to go to +1?
[14:03] <sipior> BoltClock: i think you're fine :-)
[14:03] <molven> \o/
[14:03]  * pawel_ is updating Ubuntu
[14:03] <Insti> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[14:03] <linny> anyone got a 9.04 1386 desktop torrent
[14:03] <Kisama> I have a cron that is set to: MAILTO=me@me 0 0  * * * apt-get update && apt-get -y upgrade
[14:04] <Kisama> however, I got an error in the log it emailed me
[14:04] <BoltClock> sipior: alright. in that case, is it fine to shrink my existing ubuntu partition to make space for a jaunty install on my hard disk instead of upgrading right away?
[14:04] <vixey> why does ubuntu.com make it soo hard to find the torrent? http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[14:04] <vixey> it's not even on there
[14:04] <Kisama> can someone help me?
[14:04] <vixey> I think 9.04 is out btw
[14:04] <Insti> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[14:04] <pepperjack> vixey: because torrents are evil :).  maybe they like to track number of downloads
[14:04] <sipior> BoltClock: if you want, i suppose. if you're concerned about testing, grab a live cd and verify that everything works, then upgrade.
[14:05] <darren_> ok question if i upgrade to ubuntu jaunty will it still use the same drivers i installed for mi wifi adapter?
[14:05] <vixey> I prefer torrents because they resume easily
[14:05] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[14:05] <BoltClock> sipior: i dont think testing with just a live cd is enough anymore. intrepid's live cd was totally ok, but when i upgraded my existing install it borked
[14:05] <BoltClock> x.x
[14:05] <rumpel> is it out?
[14:05] <BoltClock> yep
[14:05] <raddy> For installing without burning the cd, should i choose alternative installl?
[14:06] <pepperjack> raddy: that is still an iso you burn to cd it just isnt the livecd
[14:06] <pepperjack> raddy: you wanting to put it on a usb or somethine?
[14:06] <fladd> why is the official version dated 20.04? so the actual final version has been there for already 3 days now on the servers?
[14:06] <tuxFan> whats the jaunty channel?
[14:06] <lizzzzard> tuxFan: #ubuntu+1
[14:06] <bazhang> #ubuntu tuxFan
[14:07] <BoltClock> tuxFan: right here
[14:07] <abrandt> when I create a desktop launcher what is the switch it adds to run it in a terminal..
[14:07] <sipior> BoltClock: in that case, how would installing to another partition allow you to test the upgrade any more than testing from a live cd?
[14:07] <shauno> fladd: if nothing broke in the last couple of days, doesn't make any sense to rebuild it again.  not breaking things right up until the last minute is probably a good sign
[14:07] <pawel_> hot to minimize or change workspace when playing fullscreen game? ctrl+alt+arrows does not work.
[14:07] <BoltClock> sipior: oh yeah.... :X
[14:07] <fladd> okay
[14:07] <vixey> I think it's the jaunty channel here now isnt it?
[14:07] <alex2> it is
[14:08] <abrandt> hrrm
[14:08] <pawel_> what's the difference between Jaunty and Intrepid?
[14:08] <scunizi> pawel_: depends on the game.. you'll need to check with the game folks typicallly
[14:08] <Mohero> 6 months of development
[14:08] <Mohero> the name
[14:08] <sipior> pawel_: spelling?
[14:08] <DASPRiD> pawel_, jaunty is younger
[14:08] <Mohero> looking for specifics?
[14:08] <DASPRiD> sipior, lol :P
[14:09] <abrandt> when I create a desktop launcher, It gives an option to run in terminal. What is the option it adds to run a program in a terminal
[14:09] <alex2> Congratz Jaunty have very nice default theme
[14:09] <BoltClock> sipior: if i end up upgrading, i can only either clean install or upgrade to intrepid first right?
[14:09] <scunizi> abrandt: maybe "nautilus"
[14:09] <abrandt> ok
[14:09] <sipior> BoltClock: you're running 8.04 now?
[14:09] <vixey> Faster boot speed, enhanced application suite and more visual appeal -- give users more reasons than ever to choose Ubuntu
[14:09] <BoltClock> sipior: yes
[14:09] <DASPRiD> BoltClock, should be able to upgrade directly to 8.10
[14:09] <DASPRiD> *9.04
[14:10] <waan> Hmm my mirror doesn't appear on the website anymore
[14:10] <BoltClock> DASPRiD: with system>admin>update manager?
[14:10] <sipior> BoltClock: you can see what options the update manager gives you.
[14:10] <dragoncheese> if you do a dist-upgrade from the 9.04 RC you get the release right?
[14:10] <DASPRiD> BoltClock, yes
[14:10] <BoltClock> sipior, DASPRiD: great, ill check it out once im done with this iso download
[14:10] <DASPRiD> dragoncheese, no, you simply have it :)
[14:10] <Mohero> vixey: actually MUCH MUCH faster boot - my jaw dropped!
[14:10] <emptythevoid> BoltClock: you also need to make sure your software sources are set to show you 'Normal' updates, and not LTD only
[14:11] <darren_> hi could some one please help i have 8.10 how do i upgrade to jaunty thanks in advance
[14:11] <alex2> very representative and nice look !!
[14:11] <erUSUL> !upgrade > darren_
[14:11] <DASPRiD> DarkClown, update-manager -d
[14:11] <BoltClock> emptythevoid: yes, i have that already set
[14:11] <vixey> great!
[14:11] <vixey> I hated that about ubuntu it was slow to boott
[14:11] <vixey> I just hope 9.04 *does* boot
[14:12] <SandGorgon> anybody upgraded from 8.04 ?
[14:12] <Rapachooie> THERE IT IS
[14:12] <Rapachooie> yay
[14:12] <pawel_> god 1554 files!
[14:12] <Rapachooie> 9.04 is UP
[14:12] <pawel_> *God
[14:12] <Rapachooie> woot woot
[14:12] <JerkyBoys> anyone have torrents for the download?
[14:12] <techman224> Yes, there are torrents
[14:12] <kulight> ubuntu.com is so slow now...
[14:12] <bigboy> yeah 9.04 is up
[14:13] <Type3Singularity> Anyone know of any custom isos that roll Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and server into the one DVD?
[14:13] <techman224> But there are not published
[14:13] <ikonia> Please wait for the announcment
[14:13] <defrysk> the insternet tubes are clogged.....
[14:13]  * scunizi will be watching the server performance drop as everyone tries to suck the upgrade files as fast as they can 
[14:13] <Type3Singularity> ikonia: You mean: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2009-April/000122.html
[14:13] <stefano-palazzo> Would anyone know a shell command that quits whenever any key is pressed?
[14:13] <dt3k> use torrent faster anyway
[14:13] <JerkyBoys> http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[14:14] <jdownie> got one for kubuntu?
[14:14] <techman224> JerkyBoys, http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/
[14:14] <pawel_> ubuntu.com is not loading xD
[14:14] <techman224> All the torrent files are there.
[14:14] <emptythevoid> Has a PowerPC release of 9.04 been made that works on the PS3?
[14:14] <dt3k>  http://kubuntu.org/news/9.04-release
[14:14] <sipior> stefano-palazzo: what exactly are you trying to do?
[14:14] <ikonia> emptythevoid: PPC is community based so expect it to lag
[14:14] <emptythevoid> ikonia: Thanks. :)
[14:15] <vixey> JerkyBoys http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/
[14:15] <MrKeishii> its OUT
[14:15] <MrKeishii> Finally Out
[14:15] <vixey> the torrents are in there
[14:15] <SandGorgon> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[14:15] <MrKeishii> yeah
[14:15] <jdownie> thanks
[14:15] <MrKeishii> i know
[14:15] <vixey> I wonder why ubuntu.com makes it so hard to find them!
[14:15] <stefano-palazzo> sipior, i'm writing a script to use in the car, so i want it to do whatever it does (which is gather some data) whenever i bash randomly on the keyboard
[14:15] <MrKeishii> yaaaay
[14:15] <MrKeishii> its finally out thanks ubuntu
[14:15] <ikonia> vixey: please stop poasting that URL - it's not out yet
[14:15] <techman224> And there's a new version of ubuntu, UNR!
[14:15] <MrKeishii> yea it it
[14:15] <MrKeishii> is
[14:15] <stefano-palazzo> sipior, because you know, trying to hit some key at speed might be uncomfortable :>
[14:16] <vixey> ikonia what
[14:16] <jdownie> no torrent for netbooks?
[14:16] <ikonia> vixey: never mind, I'm wrong
[14:16] <Trombone> UBUNUTU 9.04 IS AVAILABLE NOW !!!
[14:16] <camiloyc> techman224, with date of today?
[14:16] <waan> Can somebody tell me how to run and attack multiple screen sessions?
[14:16] <waan> attach
[14:16] <erUSUL> Trombone: we now. Read the topic
[14:16] <defrysk> ikonia, even jono bacon announced it on twitter that its out!!
[14:16] <ikonia> waan: screen  -S
[14:17] <sipior> stefano-palazzo: i see the difficulty :-) you can just put a "read" in the script, blocking the script until a character is pressed. you can throw away the read character, since you don't care what it is.
[14:17] <pepperjack> jdownie: i imagine 'ubuntu netbook remix' would turn up a torrent or two
[14:17] <defrysk> ah ikonia announced he is wrong :>
[14:17] <waan> ikonia: thanks, and I name the sessions with -t right?
[14:17] <Sinchan> hey all
[14:17] <techman224> Now that Ubuntu 9.04 is out, it should be on the mirrors within the next 24 hours.
[14:17] <stefano-palazzo> sipior, thanks.. so obvious now :-)
[14:17] <lightpriest_> hi
[14:17] <ikonia> waan: -S will name them
[14:18] <forces> what happen with www.ubuntu.com
[14:18] <forces> too busy?
[14:18] <waan> Ok thanks i'll give it a shot
[14:18] <techman224> forces, no problems here
[14:18] <xC> works fine
[14:18] <Sinchan> i cant access ubuntu.com
[14:18] <RyanVanDiemen> hi guys, where can I find torrent for 9.04 (apart from ubuntu.com) ?
[14:18] <forces> hmm
[14:19] <Sinchan> jaunty is already out now ?
[14:19] <xC> ryanvandiemen: http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/
[14:19] <forces> here cant load ubuntu.com
[14:19] <techman224> Every release seams more interesting for the regular user on Mac and Windows.
[14:19] <RyanVanDiemen> thanks xC
[14:21] <danbhfive> !upgrade
[14:21] <djiezes> I'm about to install the new 9.04. Should I go for ext4 or are there stability issues?
[14:21] <glauber> anyone here familiar with distcc?
[14:21] <ikonia> djiezes: try it - make up your own mind
[14:21] <danbhfive> !notes | djiezes
[14:21] <ikonia> glauber: yes
[14:22] <Spikius> !jaunty
[14:22] <bromide> doh, I just updated via apt and half way through Ubuntu decides to give me a dialog telling me I'm due an update
[14:22] <rumpel> @ djiezes  ext4 is fast but less secure.... whats more important? performance or stability?
[14:22] <Tmi> When I start a letter to a brittish woman, should I start with "Dear Ms. Name" ?
[14:22] <techman224> There were stability issues in the beta.
[14:22] <bromide> yeah, that works Tmi
[14:22] <ikonia> Tmi: that's offtopic in here
[14:22] <glauber> ikonia: apt-get'ing it only gives me host i486, and my machine is 586
[14:22] <darren_> hi if i upgrade to the new ubuntu will it keep my prefs and skins and also will my old wireless drivers i installed still be the same thanks
[14:22] <Tmi> oh, was supposed to write in another channel, well, guess i got my answer anyway :D
[14:23] <djiezes> rumpel: stabillity, it's for my daily desktop. I'll opt for ext3 then? I see the release notes say it can cause trouble with grub.
[14:23] <ikonia> glauber: I wouldn't worry about that, compilers are rarley arch optimised
[14:23] <craryfans> hello
[14:23] <mouse-trap> why doesn't the ubuntu torrents go up before the mirrors! so irritating
[14:23] <craryfans> i'm newer
[14:23] <erUSUL> darren_: the driver will have to be reinstalled (unless the new ubuntu works out of the box now)
[14:23] <bigbwoy> hey anybody with a link to download 9.04 ubuntu.com is very slow?
[14:23] <bromide> 9.04 > 8.10 for wireless on my eee
[14:23] <rumpel> @ djiezes choose ext3...
[14:24] <djiezes> thx for the help ikonia, danbhfive, rumpel
[14:24] <darren_> erUSUL, ok thanks the driver was writen for ubuntu 8.10 as a guess do you think it will still work if i reinstall it
[14:24] <glauber> ikonia: the problem is im cross-compiling from amd64 and should i have a toolchain on the host/helper machine for 486 arch so?
[14:24] <zaagor> !list
[14:24] <ikonia> glauber: you're tool chain will be what ever arch you build it for
[14:25] <iulianpojar1> ubuntu 9.04  right now on www.ubuntu.com
[14:25] <erUSUL> darren_: dunno... as i said with luck you do not need to use them and now your wifi chip is supported aout of the box
[14:25] <copland-leopard> Is ubuntu really windows because I sure do have to restart it a whole heck of alot.
[14:25] <Insti> how dangerous is skipping a version when upgrading?
[14:25] <nassrat> Hey anybody here worked on ssh-agent and Gnome Ubuntu and knows why it works like ssh-add </dev/null by default? I would like that in kubuntu
[14:25] <craryfans> hello
[14:25] <unr3a1> erUSUL, I saw that you said you wait two weeks to upgrade to the newest version... will the upgrade button stay that long in the update manager?
[14:25] <mouse-trap> ubunt is not microsoft windows
[14:25] <arvind_khadri> Insti, you cant do that :D
[14:25] <darren_> erUSUL, ok thanks will have to look into it as a use it for packt injection thanks for your time
[14:25] <Dragnslcr> copland-leopard- only time you should need to reboot is for kernel updates
[14:25] <erUSUL> darren_: no problem
[14:25] <palmje> Insti: you have to upgrade one version at a time
[14:25] <nassrat> Hey anybody here worked on ssh-agent and Gnome Ubuntu and knows why it works like ssh-add </dev/null by default? I would like that in kubuntu
[14:26] <glauber> ikonia: should i rename /usr/lib/distcc/i486-linux-gnu-g++-4.3 for it to be recognized as 586 arch on the helper machine ?
[14:26] <docmax_> hello, i have a problem with fonts
[14:26] <copland-leopard> Dragnslcr:  Unfornatly I have the problem of X hardlocking the system up
[14:26] <craryfans> 我的
[14:26] <erUSUL> unr3a1: yes; also i use the alternate cd for upgrading
[14:26] <ikonia> glauber: no
[14:26] <docmax_> they look strange when smoothing is disabled
[14:26] <ikonia> glauber: that will cause massive problems
[14:26] <docmax_> where can i upload the example pic?
[14:27] <Dragnslcr> copland-leopard- ah, yeah, that'll do it. My first guess would be the video drivers. Linux tends to not get a lot of love from the video card manufacturers
[14:27] <glauber> ikonia: i dont get how will the helper know about the right toolchain/compiler for the target
[14:27] <bobbob1016> Do firefox add-ons live in / or /home or /usr?  I'm doing a fresh install of Jaunty, with the same /home, I have a bunch of things left in down-them-all, not sure if they'd survive, just wanted to know if anyone knows.
[14:27] <unr3a1> erUSUL, oh... the alternate cd has an upgrade option in the install menu?
[14:27] <melkart> the translations are broken, here is an example: http://i39.tinypic.com/aa9fmw.png
[14:27] <mindnull> is ubuntu.com down?
[14:27] <copland-leopard> Dragnslcr:  I am not new to linux but I thought I give ubuntu a whirl and so far no where as stable as slackware
[14:27] <Dragnslcr> mindnull- nope, just slow
[14:27] <docmax_> http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7157/screenshot001f.png
[14:27] <whattey> http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/
[14:27] <docmax_> look at this
[14:28] <docmax_> looks rally ugly
[14:28] <scunizi> bobbob1016: they are in ~/.mozilla
[14:28] <docmax_> how can i correct the fonts?
[14:28] <bobbob1016> copland-leopard, Are you restarting everytime it says "you should restart" it's a suggestion, not mandatory, at all.
[14:28] <racecar56> yay 9.04
[14:28] <racecar56> its here
[14:28] <racecar56> :>
[14:28] <ezekial> anyone know what time 9.04 is being released?
[14:28] <bromide> now
[14:28] <bromide> it's out
[14:28] <racecar56> now
[14:28] <Mohero> it is...
[14:28] <racecar56> its out now
[14:28] <ezekial> =dDDDDD
[14:28] <pc> !jaunty
[14:28] <unr3a1> its out
[14:28] <racecar56> =DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd
[14:28] <erUSUL> unr3a1: it has a command in the cd to do the upgrade using the cd as repo so you save dl time (i dl the cd via torrent)
[14:28] <copland-leopard> bobbob1016:  no I restart when I can nolonger drop down into a new tty
[14:28] <euthyfro> #omfg
[14:29] <Mohero> ** JOKE ** anyone know when I can get 9.10 Alpha 1? :P
[14:29] <racecar56> how do i upgrade from rc? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[14:29] <Sinchan> accessing ubuntu.com is like hell :)
[14:29] <unr3a1> erUSUL, I will have to figure out how to do that then... :-D
[14:29] <Dragnslcr> racecar56- just a normal update
[14:29] <Lint01> how can I setup the route between my wired and wireless network?
[14:29] <Mohero> Sinchan: so don't do it
[14:29] <Mohero> browse a mirror.
[14:29] <bobbob1016> scunizi, Thanks, although for those who don't know, saying ~/ instead of /home/(your-username)/ might be a bit confusing.
[14:29]  * misplacedme waves and whatnot
[14:29] <docmax_> http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7157/screenshot001f.png << look at the fonts! how can i correct them?
[14:29] <bromide> I just did aptitude full-upgrade
[14:29] <djiezes> hm ubottu gives release notes for 8.10? needs a fix.
[14:29] <Pici> Mohero: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule
[14:29] <Sinchan> i am not.
[14:29] <kalib> the site isn't working very well.. everybody is downloading the new release...
[14:29] <erUSUL> racecar56: use the update-manager
[14:29] <kalib> what's the link??
[14:29] <Mohero> Pici: HAHAHA
[14:29] <scunizi> Mohero: #ubuntu+1 for 9.10 :-))
[14:29] <racecar56> erUSUL, k
[14:30] <night_time> hi, I'm trying to backup my home folder with tar with the help of this famous tutorial: http://bitly.com/qty6o but at some point I get this message and the tar process stops: "gzip: stdout: File too large"
[14:30] <Sinchan> maybe tomorrow i'll try again
[14:30] <Gullstad> Is #ubuntu+1 redirected here now?
[14:30] <Mohero> there was a reason for my **JOKE** :P
[14:30] <mouse-trap> use the bittorrent
[14:30] <Mohero> just seams everyone was asking the same thing, thought i'd be different :)
[14:30] <resno> Can anyone recommend a book or online site to learn terminal commands?
[14:30] <mouse-trap> I swear - the torrent should come out a week before the mirrors
[14:30] <Mohero> resno: "man"
[14:30] <Mohero> ;)
[14:30] <hbekel> copland-leopard: slackware is a vanilla distribution. ubuntu is heavily branded/modified
[14:30] <bazhang> !rute > resno
[14:30] <unr3a1> erUSUL, I am downloading the alternate cd now... :)
[14:30] <mrwes> resno: sudo apt-get install abs -- bash scripting book
[14:31] <erUSUL> unr3a1: ok
[14:31] <pan1nx> ciao...fug...
[14:31] <scunizi> Gullstad: if 9.04 is officially out .. then yes.. and ubuntu+1 would then be the help channel for 9.10
[14:31] <unr3a1> erUSUL, its downloading faster than the regular iso too.... :-D
[14:31] <Lint01> how can I setup the route between my wired and wireless network?
[14:31] <erUSUL> unr3a1: cheers
[14:32] <docmax_> http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6149/screenshot002bly.png << look at the fonts! how can i correct them to look "normal" ??
[14:32] <dronix> ubuntu 9.04 stable is out
[14:32] <bobbob1016> Lint01, What do you mean?  Are they two different routers?  What do you want to do with the link?
[14:32] <praveer_cool> hey I observed that http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading page says Upgrading to Ubuntu 8.10 in the title, but the content is correctly set for 9.04, it is a minor typo but is noticeable
[14:32] <bobbob1016> dronix, Thanks, but we know
[14:32] <dronix> oh lol sorry, just noticed
[14:32] <deeflex> dronix, the stable?
[14:32] <praveer_cool> thought of letting you know
[14:32] <dronix> yes deeflex
[14:33] <deeflex> Ok
[14:33] <mrwes> resno: http://fosswire.com/post/2008/4/ubuntu-cheat-sheet/
[14:33] <Lint01> i want to setup multihomed machine with 1 wired and 1 wireless adapter. A wired one uses DHCP, wireless does not.
[14:33] <docmax_> hello?
[14:33] <martinkoelewijn> Hi all. A process mount.ntfs is filling up my cpu (I'm dl-ing Jaunty to a ntfs partition). What is wrong?
[14:33] <alienkid10> does dontzap --disable enable ctrl+alt+bksp permanently?
[14:33] <resno> thats quite a bit of resources!
[14:33] <mrwes> alienkid10: yes
[14:33] <Ddorda> how do i make .deb archives?
[14:33] <Ddorda> there's any guide?
[14:33] <Gullstad> scunizi: Just saw. Didn't know it was out yet :P
[14:34] <praveer_cool> I hope i commented in the right channel :)
[14:34] <mrwes> alienkid10: unless you do an --enable
[14:34]  * iqson716 is away: I'm not here right now!
[14:34] <alienkid10> ok
[14:34] <JiYu> I trie to build a deb package with dpkg-buildpackage, but dpkg-shlibdeps is telling that it cannot find "libdb2.so.2", but it exist. can I disable dpkg-shlibdeps somehow? :)
[14:34] <alienkid10> becuase I sometimes need to kill X
[14:34] <Gullstad> Is the compiz-x.org problem with intelchips fixed?
[14:34] <Asad> ubuntu site is terribly slow ... and so are upgrades .....
[14:34] <racecar56> i need to kill X too
[14:34] <dronix> mrwes, oh thats handy
[14:34] <mrwes> alienkid10: it adds a line to your xorg.conf
[14:34] <Asad> can I download the .iso to upgrade to 9.04 from 8.10 ?
[14:34] <alienkid10> ok thanks
[14:34] <praveer_cool> Asad: this happens everytime with a new release, chill out :P
[14:35] <racecar56> Asad, no
[14:35] <mrwes> I smell blood in the water...
[14:35] <Mohero> alienkid10: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ;-)
[14:35] <racecar56> Asad, update-manager
[14:35] <Asad> yea .. that's what I am talking about ... update-manager is terribly slow
[14:35] <Asad> 20 KB / sec .. come on, it will take me hours
[14:35] <Asad> anyone has used apt-p2p instead?
[14:35] <pepperjack> JiYu: maybe export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/lib
[14:35] <Sinchan> be patient Asad...
[14:35] <Sinchan> :)
[14:35] <scunizi> Asad: download the torrent of the alternate install.. I understand you can upgrade with that
[14:36] <DASPRiD> Asad, you should have done the upgrade 4 days ago, that time i got 3mb/s
[14:36] <Ddorda> i heard it not so stable
[14:36] <mrwes> Ddorda: its stable
[14:36] <JPSman> !jaunty
[14:36] <rapha> DASPRiD: ja wen seh' ich denn hier? :-)
[14:36] <DASPRiD> rapha, onoz :x
[14:36] <Cyde> Do we have any stats on popularity of the 64-bit version versus the 32-bit version?
[14:36] <rapha> rofl
[14:36] <Type3Singularity> Hmm there are no torrents for the netbook remix
[14:36] <rapha> DASPRiD: are we not on friendly terms anymore? :D
[14:36] <Mohero> Cyde: you mean other than the Ubuntu shop not even listing x64!!!
[14:37] <DASPRiD> rapha, i dont know, i remember your name, thats it :)
[14:37] <Mohero> I WANT 64BIT DAMNIT
[14:37] <bobbob1016> Asad, Try the torrent for the alternate, you can upgrade with that.
[14:37] <BonezAU> I run amd64 on both my dual core toshiba laptop and my amd dual core 64/6000 cpu
[14:37] <Cyde> Well, you can download the 64 bit one.
[14:37] <Mohero> I would never install 32-bit on my 64-bit hardware
[14:37] <Cyde> Mohero: Ditto
[14:37] <BonezAU> only reason im downloading i386 is my parents pc is an Intel P4
[14:37] <rapha> DASPRiD: c'mon, all the map testing and hanging around on SatGNU ... you disappoint me
[14:37] <Mohero> haven't in years
[14:37] <Asad> ohh ok thanks scunizi and bobbob1016
[14:37] <BonezAU> and i wanna dual boot it on that
[14:37] <nassrat> Hey anybody here worked on ssh-agent and Gnome Ubuntu and knows why it works like ssh-add </dev/null by default? I would like that in kubuntu
[14:37] <Cyde> Any computer that was bought new in the past 2 years should use the 64-bit version.
[14:37] <DASPRiD> rapha, oh, right
[14:37] <rapha> DASPRiD ;)
[14:37] <comair> hello all. I am trying to install a sharp mx2600 n printer on my ubuntu system. I downloaded the correct driver and added the printer to ubuntu. When i try to print the printer warms up but prints no page. Can anyone help?
[14:37] <BonezAU> it's disappointing the amount of people who will download the 32 bit version when they have 64 bit CPU's
[14:37] <BonezAU> the 64 bit version rocks
[14:38] <BonezAU> been using it since alpha 4
[14:38] <rapha> DASPRiD: btw, TremStats finally broke
[14:38] <LjL> !ot
[14:38] <DASPRiD> rapha, orly?
[14:38] <bromide> you know, I'd hope that if you're using Linux you at least know what's inside your computer
[14:38] <w00kee> how to know if my processor is 64 bit
[14:38] <Cyde> BonezAU: Maybe there should be a warning message during installation: "We detect you have a 64-bit processor, but are installing the 32-bit version of Ubuntu."
[14:38] <bromide> but I guess that's not as true as I'd like to believe
[14:38] <mindnull> BonezAU, do they have a 64 bit java plugin yet?
[14:38] <meebo> !info XMMS
[14:38] <BonezAU> Cyde: that is a great idea!
[14:38] <Cyde> w00kee: What's your processor?
[14:38] <rapha> DASPRiD: yeah, didn't do any bughunting though ... I'll just upgrade from your SVN and try again
[14:38] <meebo> !info xmmc
[14:38] <darthanubis> mindnull, yes
[14:38] <pepperjack> BonezAU: i dont often need more than 4 gigs of ram for a single process..
[14:38] <meebo> !info hardy xmmc
[14:39] <w00kee> pentium D
[14:39] <scunizi> !info XMMS2
[14:39] <Rolie> Cyde, my torrents ran the 8.10 downloads the past few months with a ratio of 1:2 in favor of 32 bits.
[14:39] <w00kee> dual core
[14:39] <LjL> This channel is for Ubuntu *support*, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general Ubuntu-related discussion, or party in #ubuntu-release-party
[14:39] <JiYu> pepperjack, unfortunately not
[14:39] <KoolD> hey whats special in 64bits version  than 32bits???
[14:39] <BonezAU> pepperjack: neither do I... but I don't see the point in running 32 bit version on 64 bit hardware. there is now native 64 bit flash and sun java... what else could one need
[14:39] <Cyde> Rolie: Thanks.  That's some good data.
[14:39] <cllaudyu> hi... i need a little help for my webcam
[14:39] <JPSman> what would you sugest for us 7.10ers?  8.10 to 9.04?  or just a fresh install?
[14:39] <meebo> scunizi lol maybe there is XMMC3
[14:39] <Cyde> JPSman: Fresh install
[14:39] <BonezAU> JPSman: fresh install
[14:39] <joaopinto> JPSman, fresh install
[14:40] <JPSman> damn
[14:40] <ecceberlin> !torrents
[14:40] <BonezAU> lol
[14:40] <mrwes> JPSman: you have a separate /home ?
[14:40] <JPSman> :OD
[14:40] <JPSman> uh, no
[14:40] <Lint01> why ubuntu has no upgrade mode?
[14:40] <Cyde> Back up your data first then.
[14:40] <mrwes> JPSman: then if you do fresh, make sure you back it up
[14:40] <Pici> !upgrade | Lint01
[14:40] <Cyde> Lint01: Ubuntu does, just 7.10 is rather old.
[14:40] <FreshPrince> is today the release if intrepid?
[14:40] <cllaudyu> hi... i need a little help for my webcam... i can't make it to work...
[14:40] <lightpriest_> Lint01, it does have
[14:40] <Pici> FreshPrince: Jaunty. Intrepid+1
[14:40] <FreshPrince> !release
[14:40] <cllaudyu> hi... i need a little help for my webcam... i can't make it to work... ...
[14:40] <lightpriest_> Lint01, you have to enable it
[14:40] <copland-leopard> so far I am not getting far at all.....  at this point i might  as well fire up vmware and load xp at least that does not hard lock on me
[14:40] <JPSman> damn damn damn.  Ok, well, I'm off to backup EVERYTHING :OD
[14:40] <FreshPrince> Pici, ok
[14:40] <Lint01> lightpriest_, how?
[14:40] <meebo> Lint01 sudo apt-get apgrade
[14:40] <rapha> i wanna set up ubuntu 4.10 somewhere again
[14:40] <lightpriest_> !upgrade | Lint01
[14:41] <Klau3> Happy Ubuntu 9.04 Day!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:41] <meebo> Lint01 sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:41] <cllaudyu> hi... i need a little help for my webcam... i can't make it to work... ... can someone help? it is important 4 me...
[14:41] <Shadow121> where is the off topic channel?
[14:41] <bjsnider> not if you're using intel graphics
[14:41] <Konam> where is the 9.04 official torrent?
[14:41] <Pici> Shadow121: #ubuntu+1
[14:41] <shadeslayer> !ot
[14:41] <Pici> Shadow121: ER,.. I mean #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:41] <SandGorgon> anybody have link to kubuntu desktop torrent ?
[14:41] <erUSUL> !ot | Konam
[14:41] <pepperjack> !webcam | cllaudyu may be of some help
[14:41]  * Sinchan starting upgrade... my local repo is allready updated
[14:41] <Sinchan> :)
[14:41] <epscylonb> did anyone else update firefox today and have it delete all their add ons ?
[14:41] <Shadow121> Thanks Pici
[14:41] <w00kee> cyde: its a pentium D, can i go for a download of 64 bit??
[14:42] <kulight> !9.04
[14:42] <lightpriest_> this ubottu bot is pretty smart :P
[14:42] <Cyde> w00kee: No, I don't think the Pentium D is 64-bit.
[14:42] <g_> hey is it a good idea to upgrade to 9.04?
[14:42] <Cyde> w00kee: Wait, I'm wrong.
[14:42] <Cyde> w00kee: It is
[14:42] <cllaudyu> i think i need a little more help than a web page... hmmmm
[14:42] <w00kee> cyde: how do i find out my pc's specs
[14:42] <shadeslayer> g_: pretty good
[14:42] <olujicz> I have intel celeron D and it is 64-bit
[14:42] <Cyde> w00kee: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Pentium_D
[14:42] <joaopinto> pendium d does already support 64 bits
[14:42] <mrwes> g_: I ran the upgrade for the first time and I didn't have any issues
[14:42] <meebo> w00kee is it a dualcore?
[14:42] <Cyde> w00kee: less /proc/cpuinfo
[14:43] <Mohero> most PC's sold are 64bit, so why are most os's sold /downloaded 32bit
[14:43] <lightpriest_> g_, I'm using it now on my pc and my laptop, it works great
[14:43] <Mohero> seems pointless to me
[14:43] <copland-leopard> Does anyone else have serious issues with ubuntu and ATI drivers.  I know ati drivers are buggy but they seem extra buggy on Ubuntu?
[14:43] <jhouse> ubottu said the current release is 9.04, but apt-get upgrade does not work.  Am I missing something?
[14:43] <kulight> !torrent
[14:43] <Type3Singularity> I vote the next Ubuntu release's name be changed to "It's not out yet", just to confuse the issue
[14:43] <Daskreech> !torrents
[14:43] <orgthingy> Mohero: 64-apps aint THAT popular yet i guess
[14:43] <Cyde> jhouse: You need to launch the Update Manager.
[14:43] <Mohero> orgthingy: so...
[14:43] <Lint01> copland-leopard, ati drivers are unusable now
[14:43] <Cyde> jhouse: (The GUI one)
[14:43] <resno> the upgrade is going to take 2hrs 48 mins to download 831 mb!
[14:43] <Cyde> jhouse: That'll tell you a new release is available.
[14:43] <shadeslayer> jhouse: apt-get dist-upgrade maybe
[14:43] <meebo> ppl use /msg ubottu !torrents
[14:43] <Mohero> orgthingy: you can run 32bit apps on 64bit systems
[14:43] <Mohero> we do all the time.
[14:43] <orgthingy> Mohero: or probably are pre-compiled binary better than compiling for 64bit
[14:43] <bjsnider> guhh. there's too much chatter in here
[14:43] <orgthingy> Mohero: that'd be stupid :p
[14:43] <pawel__> register swap osd2@op.pl
[14:44] <pawel__> oh!
[14:44] <orgthingy> Mohero: I run 64-bit Ubuntu 9.04 with 64-bit apps
[14:44] <jhouse> Cyde, shadeslayer: "your system is up-to-date"
[14:44] <lightpriest_> Mohero, if you don't have more then 4GiB of ram 64bit is quite pointless
[14:44] <orgthingy> but, Mohero , it isn't really "stupid" to run 32-bit
[14:44] <Mohero> orgthingy: no, we write both 64bit and 32bit software, we build them all on 64bit systems
[14:44] <AvianInfluenza> hiya
[14:44] <Cyde> jhouse: Run it again?
[14:44] <grawity> pawel__: Is your password really "swap"? :)
[14:44] <Mohero> lightpriest_: disagree
[14:44] <meebo> jhouse what are ya using now?
[14:44] <orgthingy> Mohero: 64-bit got cons as well, that 32-bit doesn't have
[14:44] <pawel__> grawity: yep.
[14:44] <orgthingy> so, Mohero, it's users choice never yours xD
[14:44] <jhouse> Cyde, meebo: using 8.10 and just ran it
[14:44] <resno> wow, this place is crazy about the new upgrade
[14:44] <datacrusher> jaunty is oficcialy released?
[14:44] <Lint01> why I have got no upgrades after release?
[14:44] <SixtyFold> How do you check users in the terminal on ubuntu since theres no passwd file in /etc/?
[14:44] <orgthingy> Mohero: it's about compiling FOSS for your 64-bit machine
[14:45] <Lint01> datacrusher, see MOTD
[14:45] <bobbob1016> datacrusher, Please, check ubuntu.com before asking here
[14:45] <pawel__> how to change NickServ password?
[14:45] <Cyde> Argh, MIT, your slow mirror is making me late to work!
[14:45] <orgthingy> Mohero: it's about some proprietary software don't have 64-bit binary
[14:45] <w00kee> Cyde: how do i get to know the version of my ubuntu distro
[14:45] <grawity> SixtyFold: There should be an /etc/passwd :/
[14:45] <lightpriest_> Mohero, gimme one good reason to use 64bit.. except that memory issue...
[14:45] <copland-leopard> Lint01:  I experience nothing but pain in  with ATI and Ubuntu and I hate to say it it only been ubuntu that I had so much pain with  All my ati boxes run different versions of linux with out issue ubuntu likes to go kablooey
[14:45] <SixtyFold> hrmm
[14:45] <mib_wfnhs3> I'm upgrading to 9.04, and it has hanged on "Fetching file 1146 of 1146"... any ideas?
[14:45] <Mohero> and all of which will run on your 64bit OS...
[14:45] <Cyde> w00kee: lsb_release -a
[14:45] <SixtyFold> ill check again but i didnt see it
[14:45] <BoltClock> !md5
[14:45] <orgthingy> Mohero: no
[14:45]  * meebo is on GeBuntu :)
[14:45] <grawity> pawel__: /msg nickserv set password
[14:45] <Mohero> that's why we have apt-get install ia32
[14:45] <orgthingy> i have 64-bit, Mohero , i can't run 32-bit DEBs
[14:45] <BoltClock> where do i find the list of md5sums for jaunty?
[14:45] <SixtyFold> NM
[14:45] <SixtyFold> its there
[14:45] <jhouse> apt-get update; apt-get upgrade worked
[14:45] <SixtyFold> thanks, im just retarded and tired
[14:45] <SixtyFold> :D
[14:45] <Mohero> orgthingy: then you're doing it wrong :)
[14:45] <FloodBot2> SixtyFold: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:45] <LjL> BoltClock: in the last link in the topic
[14:46] <SixtyFold> im not flooding either, i talk that fast :P
[14:46] <orgthingy> Mohero: im not talking about "All-arch" DEBs
[14:46] <SixtyFold> bbl :D
[14:46] <Mohero> all-arch is different from 32bit / 64bit :)
[14:46] <orgthingy> Mohero: and excuse me? I've used debian since 1998 (now ubuntu for repo issues and such) so don't tell me im wrong about DEBs
[14:46] <orgthingy> Mohero: i know
[14:46] <Mohero> I would expeck no-arch to run on my PPC
[14:46] <pawel__> how to recover lost password on IRC? I lost password for pawel.
[14:46] <mib_wfnhs3> I'm upgrading to 9.04, and it has hanged on "Fetching file 1146 of 1146"... any ideas?
[14:46] <grawity> pawel__: Ask in #freenode
[14:46] <w00kee> Cyde: So then shud i go for a download, and not an upgrade to get the 64 bit.
[14:46] <Pici> pawel__: Join #freenode and ask
[14:46] <meebo> can smb change the topic! so ppl will not ask 100000 times how to upgrade and that you need to have 8.10
[14:47] <Mohero> I run google earth packaged as DEB it's 32bit, on my 64bit Ubuntu
[14:47] <pawel__> ok.
[14:47] <SixtyFold> pawel, you should just be able to get nickserv to send it to your email address
[14:47] <Mohero> so, it can be done if you know how to do it :)
[14:47] <cllaudyu> i can't find nothing for my ARMEDIA K13A webcam
[14:47] <orgthingy> Mohero: you need 32-bit LibC and such
[14:47] <Cyde> w00kee: If you're currently running the 32-bit version, I believe you have to install the 64-bit version fresh.
[14:47] <orgthingy> otherwise you'd fail running it
[14:47] <meebo> cllaudyu you have problems with your web cam
[14:47] <erUSUL> w00kee: Cyde that's right yes
[14:47] <orgthingy> Mohero: and I don't see your problem with people's choice on this :P ?
[14:47] <Mohero> orgthingy: that's what apt-get is for...
[14:47] <orgthingy> Mohero: plus, 64-bit got other cons
[14:47] <leohartx> which advantages does ubuntu dvd version have (over cd version) ?
[14:47] <orgthingy> Mohero: proprietary software...
[14:48] <djuggler> a little OT: alright.. so chmod 0777 dirname   chmod -r 0777 dirname will recursively change the permissions down the tree but I only want to be changing directories not files. My inclination is to ls for just directories and pipe it into chmod but there has to be a simplier way. Wassit?
[14:48] <cllaudyu> meebo yeah it doesn't work on ubuntu
[14:48] <Cyde> w00kee: Which, depending on how much of a hassle it is for you to back up everything, you may not want to do.
[14:48] <Mohero> I've been on 64bit for.... years, never had a problem
[14:48] <Mohero> many many many years
[14:48] <orgthingy> Mohero: I've been using 64-bit just recently myself
[14:48] <Cyde> Ditto here.  Never had a problem with 64-bit.
[14:48] <orgthingy> Mohero: yes, it's *your choice*
[14:48] <orgthingy> but people don't like the "cons"
[14:48] <meebo> cllaudyu you will never fix it :) i use 8.04 dunno bout 9.04 maybe they fixed it
[14:48] <Mohero> running 32bit and 64bit apps on my 64bit..
[14:48] <orgthingy> other ones, that we havent mentioned, Mohero
[14:49] <cllaudyu> meebo i use 8.10
[14:49] <w00kee> cyde: hmm yeah, i understand dat, but is it worth it to go for the 64 bit
[14:49] <Mohero> orgthingy: haven't mentioned for fear of being shot down :)
[14:49] <Mohero> I understand choice
[14:49] <scott9876> does anyone have jackalope running, I'm upgading now
[14:49] <Mohero> I don't understand 32bit OS on 64bit Hardware
[14:49] <orgthingy> Mohero: good ^_^
[14:49] <Cyde> w00kee: How much RAM do you have?  Or that you intend on adding to your current machine throughout its lifespan?
[14:49] <panaggio> if I'm using #juanty beta. there's no "udpate" for me?
[14:49] <orgthingy> Mohero: well, 64-bit arch isn't all perfect
[14:49] <Mohero> 32bit is what calculators use :)
[14:49] <MrKeishii> where is the ubuntu 9.04 NBR torrent at?
[14:49] <leohartx> which advantages does ubuntu dvd version have (over cd version) ?
[14:49] <Cyde> w00kee: The biggest advantage of 64-bit is that it can address more than 4 GB of RAM.
[14:49] <erUSUL> djuggler: do that .... "find folder/ -type d -print0 | xargs -0 sudo chmod 777" but be carefull... when people do this kind of things is usually becouse he is doing something wrong. what are you trying to achieve ?
[14:49] <Mint`> !jaunty
[14:49] <Laibsch> why does "date --date='2009-04-23 14:02:23 +7 hours'" not give me 21:02:23?
[14:50] <rski> panaggio: just a small update should be updated already
[14:50] <orgthingy> locainex: just get CD version
[14:50] <orgthingy> leohartx: *
[14:50] <w00kee> cyde: i have a 1.5g RAM
[14:50] <Cyde> w00kee: Although depending on your motherboard's specs, it might only be able to handle 4 GB total anyway (2 slots each that max out at 2 GB).
[14:50] <Mohero> I have 8GB ram....
[14:50] <Cyde> w00kee: I would recommend a RAM upgrade, in that case :-D
[14:50] <shadeslayer> :O
[14:50] <leohartx> orgthingy : ? what do you mean ?
[14:50] <Mohero> in this one, I have 12GB at home
[14:50] <Cyde> w00kee: RAM is incredibly cheap.  I'm not sure where you are in the world, but here you can upgrade RAM for something like $10 a GB.
[14:50] <orgthingy> leohartx: download CD version, it's all what you need
[14:50] <orgthingy> and probably want, leohartx
[14:50] <MaT-dg> w00kee: yes, it's (a little) faster, it can adress more ram, you push the devs to develop for 64bit (although I have no problems) and u use the full potential of your 64bit cpu
[14:50] <panaggio> rski: so will it be available or it's already available and I don't know how to get it?
[14:51] <resno> i gather the servers are under a heavy load, my upgrade has slowed to a crawl
[14:51] <MrKeishii> send me a torrent link for Ubuntu 9.04 NBR
[14:52] <w00kee> cyde: i will stick with 32 bit for now, after upgrading my pc i will go for the 64bit, thanx for the infos :)
[14:52] <MaT-dg> Cyde: depends, size is not the only variable of good ram ;)
[14:52] <leohartx> orgthingy : i've used cd version for years, and now, i'm wondering about dvd version
[14:52] <MrKeishii> send me a torrent link for Ubuntu 9.04 NBR
[14:52] <fabzor3> anyoneknow any good adhoc wireless lan network tools for ubuntu + my atheros wireless device?
[14:52] <Cyde> MaT-dg: Well, granted, if you have an i7 system and can only use DDR3 RAM, it will be a bit more ..
[14:52] <SixtyFold> Is it normal for you to have a /etc/passwd and /etc/passwd- in ubuntu?
[14:52] <orgthingy> leohartx: I'm not sure myself, probably Kubuntu/Ubuntu/Edubuntu/Xubuntu all together? and maybe with extra apps?
[14:52] <fabzor3> it doesnt seem to come up in wireless networks
[14:52] <orgthingy> cause that's what dvd versions are usually for (i guess)
[14:53] <Megarain> Any one got any idea why empathy lacks sound in ubuntu?
[14:53] <MrKeishii> send me a torrent link for Ubuntu 9.04 NBR
[14:53] <leohartx> orgthingy : so, we both are alike, aren't we ? :)
[14:53] <panaggio> !torrent
[14:53] <Pici> !torrents > MrKeishii
[14:53] <Nikola> !torrents > Nikola94
[14:54] <Nikola> !torrents > Nikola
[14:54] <leohartx> orgthingy : i mean our attitude to dvd version
[14:54] <Megarain> What attitude for DVD version?
[14:54] <Lint01> how can I browse windows shares in my local network?
[14:54] <MaT-dg> Cyde: DDR (1) RAM here is more expensive than DDR2 :P
[14:54] <ChopMonkey> !torrent
[14:54] <copland-leopard> yeah ddr is obsolete so no it more expensive
[14:54] <jhouse> The update manager gui does not detect that 9.04 is released.  apt-get dist-upgrade also does nothing.  Help :(
[14:54] <lightpriest_> Lint01, try "Places > Connect to server"
[14:55] <ChopMonkey> !torrents
[14:55] <Cyde> MaT-dg: Same here.  But why would you need DDR1 RAM?  That system is a junker :-D
[14:55] <SixtyFold> you can buy it used cheap though
[14:55] <Pici> !offtopic
[14:55] <SixtyFold> just fine a computer store that sells used ram
[14:55] <unixdawg> why is ubuntu+1 locked
[14:55] <SixtyFold> find
[14:55] <WistfulGeek> jhouse : try update-manager -d
[14:55] <Lint01> lightpriest_, i don't use Gnome
[14:55] <leohartx> Megarain: it's nothing, btw, have you ever used ubuntu dvd version ?
[14:55] <haggisbasheruk> PS3 Jaunty ?
[14:55] <lightpriest_> Lint01, ohh... ;p
[14:55] <Megarain> Nope. Always ran with the CD.
[14:55] <Cyde> 11 minutes left in my download, then straight to The Pirate Bay and Mininova.  Mwahahaha
[14:55] <MrKeishii> i'm looking for the torrent version of netbookremix 9.04
[14:55] <Spikius> if i download CD ISO, can i burn it to dvd+rw and will it work?
[14:56] <Megarain> Also, any one know how to get the sound notifications working in empathy?
[14:56] <Cyde> Spikius: As long as you burn it as an image, sure.
[14:56] <jhouse> WistfulGeek: Thanks, that works.
[14:56] <Spikius> Cyde are you TOTALY sure?
[14:56] <Spikius> i somehow thing i should convert it into something :D
[14:56] <meebo> !source
[14:56] <Cyde> Spikius:  Ohhh, you said CD to DVD+RW ?
[14:56] <Cyde> Spikius: I missed that.
[14:56] <leohartx> is anybody here know where to get md5 code of ubuntu 9.04 dvd version ?
[14:57] <Cyde> Spikius: Umm ... is it really so hard just to burn it to a CD?
[14:57] <Spikius> i dont have CD right now :D
[14:57] <Cyde> Go borrow one from a neighbor.  Surely that'll be less hassle than trying to burn it to a DVD.
[14:57] <bercik> Hello
[14:57] <Anarkist> you can burn a cd image on a dvd
[14:57] <Anarkist> easy
[14:57] <lightpriest_> Spikius, you could use a usb disk
[14:57] <mint3> hi
[14:58] <bromide> if you have a Windows machine I know ImgBurn can burn CD ISOs to DVDs properly
[14:58] <bercik> I have got off-topic question. Laptop video cards are different to desktop? Could You send me official nvidia site with laptop cards?
[14:58] <Spikius> usb is prety slow..
[14:58] <bromide> dunno about Linux though
[14:58] <Megarain> Okay, I'm going to ask the empathy instant messaging question one more time, then I'm off to work on some writing. Any one know how to get sound working?
[14:58] <Spikius> bromide thanks :)
[14:58] <Mortuis> I wanted to start over with wine, so I removed it via APT and then deleted ~/.wine  but when I click on "Applications" on the desktop I still see a folder for Wine on the bottom.  Anyone know how I remove that folder?
[14:58] <mint3> i was already on the beta version of jaunty. i think its finally out. how to fully upgrade to it
[14:58] <ikonia> bercik: if you know it's offtopic, please don't ask
[14:58] <ikonia> !offtopic > bercik
[14:58] <Lint01> mint3, you already are
[14:58] <bercik> i dont know where to ask
[14:58] <lightpriest_> Spikius, it might be slower then a DVD but it isn't "slow"
[14:58] <pawel__> how to start udate manager?
[14:59] <shadeslayer> Megarain: #telepathy if there are any problems ;)
[14:59] <mint3> Lint01,  all i done is updated
[14:59] <BoltClock> pawel__: system>administration>update manager
[14:59] <lightpriest_> Spikius, i mean, it isn't that slow ;p
[14:59] <bromide> depends all upon the USB stick you're using
[14:59] <Sinchan> just type update-manager -d
[14:59] <dthmnk> or apt-get upgrade then apt-get update
[14:59] <mint3> so thats it then, the version i am on is the final one
[14:59] <MaT-dg> Cyde: my old desktop (almost 5 years) still has DDR... bought the mobo at the time where DDR2 was still very new and 3 - 4 times more expensive
[14:59] <Megarain> I'll bug them again. Last time I was there they were kinda blaming the distro.
[14:59] <Jimmymaniac> Hi. I see nothing on the topic so i ask. Is there a very recent update that breaks internet conectivity in both hardy and intrepid? first yesterday in a friend's hardy and now today in my intrepid, nothing resolves, but yesterday a windows virtual machine on hardy and today this windows install both get internet allright. Ideas?
[14:59] <dthmnk> mint3, as long as update manager is not showing you any more updates, yes
[14:59] <Cyde> MaT-dg: Time to get a new system :-D
[14:59] <Lint01> mint3, if you installed all updates, you're already on release version
[14:59] <mint3> dthmnk,  yeah it shows me nothing
[14:59] <mint3> ok cool
[14:59] <dthmnk> yeah you're full updated then
[15:00] <mint3> no big difference hehe
[15:00] <dthmnk> fully*
[15:00] <MaT-dg> Cyde: still runs wel on XP.. ;)
[15:00] <Cyde> MaT-dg: Well, maybe it runs XP.  I'm sure it doesn't run it well. Nothing does :-P
[15:00] <mint3> i really like jaunty. so stable.
[15:01] <Mortuis> Anyone know how to remove items from the "Applications" dropdown?
[15:01] <mint3> is there a way to tell which o.s version ur using
[15:01] <shane2peru> where can I get help printing via command line with lp??
[15:01] <mint3> like "ver" on windows sort of thing.
[15:01] <Pici> !version | mint3
[15:01] <shane2peru> !lp
[15:01] <shane2peru> !lpr
[15:01] <SandGorgon> Mortuis: right at the bottom should be "Add/Remove"
[15:02] <MaxxTaDeeR> Hi ) how can help me to install an tar.gz application
[15:02] <Jimmymaniac> shane2peru: man lpr?
[15:02] <mint3> yep says no lsb modules available. release 9,04 codename jaunty
[15:02] <xukun> how can I mount my dvd-rom for my kvm guest windows pc?
[15:02] <mint3> cool stuff
[15:02] <hwilde> hi I have two monitors with two xscreens using nvidia-config.  when I only have mouse and kb activity in the right monitor, both of them dim and go to sleep.  only activity in the left monitor is recognized to wake it up.  how can I fix this please?
[15:02] <Cyde> SandGorgon: Umm, that actually uninstalls software.
[15:02] <mint3> !lp
[15:02] <ikonia> mint3: untar it and read the INSTALL and/or README file
[15:02] <Cyde> SandGorgon: Not sure that's what Mortuis is asking for.
[15:02] <shane2peru> when I print via lp it seems as though the paper comes out as letter paper size instead of a4, when I set the option media=a4 it doesn't help, using a HP 1022n laserjet
[15:02] <Lint01> MaxxTaDeeR, open it in fileroller and peruse README inside
[15:02] <Jimmymaniac> anybody knows of something like what i described? cause and more importantly, fixes?
[15:02] <hwilde> Mortuis, right click on the top of the menu,   edit menu
[15:02] <mint3> ikonia, i dont have anythin to untar ?
[15:02] <shane2peru> Jimmymaniac: I have been over the man page many times.
[15:02] <ikonia> mint3: sorry - not your
[15:02] <Mortuis> hwilde: Thanks
[15:02] <MaxxTaDeeR> yes
[15:02] <hwilde> shane2peru, man lpr
[15:02] <Cyde> How many KDE users here?
[15:02]  * mint3 pokes ikonia 
[15:02] <ikonia> MaxxTaDeeR: untar it and read the README/INSTALL file
[15:02] <mint3> Cyde,  Gnome is better
[15:03] <Cyde> mint3: Feh :-P
[15:03] <Cyde> I run KDE on top of Ubuntu.
[15:03] <shane2peru> hwilde: man lpr has less info then man lp. :)
I did it
[15:03] <MaT-dg> Cyde: ah wel, I just keep it to run some older games, play music with the x-fi soundcard and 7.1 boxes attached (splendid sound) and my nokia software to send concatenated sms
[15:03] <ikonia> MaxxTaDeeR: ok, great
[15:03] <mint3> well, kde "might" look better
[15:03] <bromide> CDE or bust! wait...
[15:03] <mint3> but i dont like the idea of those unstable plasmoids etc
[15:03] <Jimmymaniac> shane2peru: and what do you wanna do?
[15:03] <Daniel_G> which is better is a matter of opinion, there is no right or wrong answer...
[15:03] <Cyde> mint3: I don't even use the plasmoids.  I never see my desktop.
[15:03] <FirstSgt> if i type users, how can I tell which TTY they are on?
[15:03] <mint3> Cyde, then what do you use? Terminal ?
[15:03] <hwilde> shane2peru,  examples here:  http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/cgi-bin/manpage?lpr
Now what i have to do ?
[15:04] <SandGorgon> Cyde: i just use the picture frame plasmoid
[15:04] <hwilde> FirstSgt,   who -u
[15:04] <ikonia> MaxxTaDeeR: read the README/INSTALL files
[15:04] <Cyde> mint3: No, I use KDE.  I never see the desktop because I always have windows covering it.
I read it
[15:04] <mint3> oh right, Cyde
[15:04] <shane2peru> Jimmymaniac: when I print a page it comes out as though it is on letter paper, not a4 paper, I even set the media size to a4, or pagesize, and nothing seems to help.
[15:04] <ikonia> MaxxTaDeeR: ok, follow the instructions
[15:04] <hwilde> !kde > Cyde
Just run
[15:04] <MaxxTaDeeR>  $ ./autogen.sh
[15:04] <MaxxTaDeeR>  $ make
[15:04] <mint3> !kde > mint3
[15:04] <Cyde> I don't really use ~/Desktop for storing any files.  I just use the File Manager.
[15:04] <akravets> hello
[15:04] <ikonia> MaxxTaDeeR: follow the instructions
[15:05] <Raylz> 1.6k users in here :)
[15:05] <Cyde> hwilde: Um, I'm aware of what KDE is :-/
how  can i  run that
[15:05] <hwilde> Cyde, help in #kubuntu
[15:05] <Cyde> hwilde: I'm not asking for help ..
[15:05] <shane2peru> hwilde: is lpr better/updated rather than lp?
[15:05] <Cyde> I was just wondering who uses KDE?
[15:05] <MaxxTaDeeR> i just extract the tar.gz
[15:05] <ikonia> MaxxTaDeeR: exactly as it says in the document
[15:05] <sebsebseb> Raylz: yeah I kind of expected more, but nope
[15:05] <mint3> leave Cyde  alone guys
[15:05] <bonzi> how do I upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04
[15:05] <bonzi> ?
[15:05] <ikonia> MaxxTaDeeR: what do you want to build
[15:05] <pvandewyngaerde> Cyde: i use kde
[15:05] <ikonia> !upgrade > bonzi
[15:05] <sebsebseb> bonzi: you got to get 8.10 first
[15:05] <Cyde> bonzi: Upgrade to 8.10 first.
[15:05] <mint3> !jaunty > bonzi
[15:05] <Pici> Cyde: Please do not take polls in this channel.
[15:05] <akravets> I downloaded Ubuntu 9.04 alternative cd but when I boot from it I don't have option to try Ubuntu without installing....
[15:06] <Cyde> It wasn't a poll either :-(
[15:06] <erUSUL> bonzi: 8.04 --> 8.10 --> 9.04 two step process
[15:06] <hwilde> bonzi, system- > admin -> update manager
[15:06] <bonzi> oh k thx
[15:06] <pvandewyngaerde> akravets: alternate is non graphical
[15:06] <joaopinto> akravets, that option is only available o the desktop cd
[15:06] <mint3> Cyde, i did use kde before.
[15:06] <incorrect> I am going to wipe my laptop reinstall using ext4
[15:06] <pepperjack> bonzi: itll take about 16hrs if you try to do it today :)
[15:06] <akravets> ah damn
[15:06] <Lint01> how can I troubleshoot absense of sound?
[15:06] <mint3> Cyde, however for the past few months, i been on Gnome
[15:06] <djuggler> I'm using an application that errors with "Extension 'gd' was not found. This extension is used for image manipulation" I searched the repositories but didn't find it. Obviously this app is doing captcha or something. Where do I get GD for ubuntu desktop (I've installed mysql,apache,php and those are working).
[15:06] <hwilde> !alsa > Lint01
[15:06] <bonzi> thx for the info :)
please lets start alt first... i have an file.tar.gz
[15:06] <akravets> ok thanks
[15:06] <pvandewyngaerde> Lint01: try speaker-test
How can i install that
[15:06] <Sinchan> if use aptitude, is it okay to upgrade to jaunty ?
[15:06] <Raylz> bonzi: save your home directory and do a new install
[15:06] <Raylz> its less painfull
[15:07] <Sinchan> like this : sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade && sudo aptitude purge ??
[15:07] <hwilde> MaxxTaDeeR, tar -xzvf <filena,me>
[15:07] <shane2peru> hwilde: which is better to use?  lp or lpr, and what is the difference?
[15:07] <ikonia> MaxxTaDeeR: untar the file - in that file there are normally two files called INSTALL and README - read the files and follow the instructions/commands in the file
[15:07] <hwilde> shane2peru, doesn't matter just use what works
[15:07] <sebsebseb> how do I upgrade 8.04 to 8.10 on another computer, when it refuses  to download some packages and gives me 404 not found messages?  I guess I can always change the sources myself and do it the old way, if nessarey
[15:07] <bonzi> I think backing up home and clean install is better
[15:07] <akravets> does anybody know if Ubuntu 9.04 works on Lenovo T61? I currently have 8.04 on T61, tried 8.10 but the system hangs after 5 min of use. Wondering if this was fixed in 9.04?
[15:07] <bromide> pepperjack - bovine female of significant religious importance, 16 hours?
[15:07] <shane2peru> hwilde: ok, let me give lpr a few runs and see what it does.  thanks for the link.
[15:08] <Sinchan> no one use aptitude command ?
[15:08] <bromide> Sinchan - I did
[15:08] <ikonia> sebsebseb: if the repos are unavailable its probably because they are getting hit for the 9.04 update
[15:08] <hwilde> shane2peru, lpr always worked for me.  you just have to point it at the printer
[15:08] <Pici> Sinchan: Don't use that way to upgrade, please use the reccomended methods.
[15:08] <sebsebseb> ikonia: yeah that's what I thought,  but   the  8.04  repos are seperate?
[15:08] <joaopinto> sebsebseb, you are most likely getting an overloaded or incomplete mirror, you should not do it manually, there are specific upgrade conditions only covered by the update manager
[15:08] <ikonia> sebsebseb: no, they are on the same servers
[15:08] <thorin> I cant get to mount my ipodtouch with itunnel, and am pretty sure that i'm messing up with something, as i'm a complete newb with linux
[15:08] <Sinchan> i see..
[15:09] <Sinchan> i'll try first then
[15:09] <Sinchan> :)
[15:09] <sebsebseb> joaopinto: such as?
[15:09] <shane2peru> hwilde: right, I don't have a problem hitting the printer, it isn't printing out correctly, so must be 1.  a command problem (user error) or 2.  driver error, which I doubt.
[15:09] <magentar> what's a good program to play shoutcast streams?
[15:09] <mint3> winamp ?
[15:09] <Spikius> hmz thats weird.. no peers from my country currently downloading..
[15:09] <thorin> in the tutorial i'm following they gave this.. The binary is pretty simple:
[15:09] <thorin> itunnel [port]
[15:09] <magentar> well i was hoping for opensource software
[15:09] <pepperjack> magentar: beep media player imo
[15:09] <joaopinto> sebsebseb, I don't know the details, i just know there are distro upgrade conditions covered by the update manager, which are not part of the regular package upgrades process
[15:09] <scunizi> magentar: vlc will do it.. so will streamtuner
[15:09] <thorin> what should i do with that? the terminal says that doesnt exist..
[15:10] <hwilde> magentar, totem plays them fine
[15:10] <magentar> pepperjack, thx. i tried songbird but the api seems unstable
 i wrote in terminal tar xzfv file.tar.gz
[15:10] <dergringo> Hmm Where has the working ATI driver gone in Jaunty? Proprietary driver has been working since dapper for me. Now it's broken. Envy shows no compatible driver.
[15:10] <dubno> akravets:  I run 8.10 on several T61's -- seems to work fine
[15:10] <ChopMonkey> why is there no torrent file for netbook remix on http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ ?
[15:10] <ikonia> MaxxTaDeeR: what is it you want to install ?
[15:10] <mint3> dergringo, use the backport drivers, did it for me
[15:10] <joaopinto> dergringo, the proprietrary ati driver dropped support for some older models
and there is somethig doing in terminal
[15:10] <ikonia> MaxxTaDeeR: what do you want to install (what software package)
some program
[15:11] <ikonia> MaxxTaDeeR: called what ?
wifiscanner
[15:11] <Jeruvy> ChopMonkey: UNR releases are not on the same schedule as ubuntu releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR for info about this
[15:11] <ikonia> MaxxTaDeeR: ok - so that's nothing to do with ubuntu I suggest you ask in one of your "hack" channels that you're in
i just want to learn how i can install programs with tar.gz
[15:12] <Sniper606> So is jaunty supported in here now?
[15:12] <WistfulGeek> ask Google
[15:12] <joaopinto> !compiling | MaxxTaDeeR
[15:13] <ikonia> MaxxTaDeeR: ok - read the documents in the tar, and as it's a "hacking" program ask in one of the "hacking" channels you're in
[15:13] <joaopinto> Sniper606, yes
[15:13] <leohartx> is anyone here know about advantages which ubuntu dvd version have over cd version ? btw, where can i get MD5SUMS for ubuntu 9.04 dvd version ?
[15:13] <zetheroo> how do you upgrade to the latest ALSA?
[15:13] <joaopinto> leohartx, extra packages ?
[15:13] <Sniper606> well im running the rc and i have receive no notification of updates
[15:13] <pepperjack> leohartx: if you have poor internet connection the dvd should have more packages maybe
[15:14] <mint3> i still never seen anything load / boot faster than MAC s
[15:14] <leohartx> joaopinto : is that all ?
[15:14] <mint3> os*
[15:14] <Madpilot> Sniper606, System->Admin->Update Manager to run it manually, from the RC that'll get you to final release state
[15:14] <leohartx> pepperjack: have you ever installed dvd version ?
[15:14] <leohartx> is anyone here know about advantages which ubuntu dvd version have over cd version ? btw, where can i get MD5SUMS for ubuntu 9.04 dvd version ?
[15:15] <pepperjack> leohartx: not on ubuntu but they have to do something with the extra space :) im assuming more deb files
[15:15] <Jeruvy> leohartx: the dvd only offers extra translations over the cd.  see the ubuntu download page
[15:15] <Cyde> OK, I've uploaded Jaunty to The Pirate Bay and Mininova: http://www.mininova.org/tor/2518746 http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4865683
[15:15] <joaopinto> leohartx, yes, it is
[15:15] <dergringo> joaopinto, weil it's an ATI 1950XTX and I bought it in 2007. I can't imagine that they have thrown out 2 years old cards :)
[15:15] <Cyde> And I am off to work guys.
[15:15] <blackadr> hello folks
 i open that file by archivetool??
[15:16] <blackadr> anyone here know how well fglrx is supported in 9.10?
[15:16] <ikonia> MaxxTaDeeR: you said you'd already opened it
[15:16] <ikonia> MaxxTaDeeR: thats what the tar did
[15:16] <DShepherd> hey all :-) my fellow ubunteros
[15:16] <gypsymauro> why I can't find vlc in jaunty?
[15:16] <niekie> Hello DShepherd.
[15:16] <shane2peru> hwilde: is ps already formated for the printer?  Therefore I can just use the -l option?  lpr -PhpLaser -l file.ps
[15:16] <ikonia> MaxxTaDeeR: you also lied to me and said you'd read the INSTALL and README file from within the tar file - which I now know you did not as you don't know how to open it
[15:16] <sebsebseb> gypsymauro: sudo apt-get install vlc
[15:16] <melkart> what can i do to make ubuntu do something about the broken translations? ubuntu just shipped with broken translations
[15:16] <frostburn> blackadr, 9.10 hasn't been developed yet, packages haven't been decided
[15:16] <bram_> hello all. I have a question (great surprise!). I was wondering if I can the UNR images burnt to a USB stick, and try it out on my macbook pro. Yesterday night I tried writing the image using dd, but no luck (did not show up in bootable devices). I also tried formatting the USB stick with fat32 (and MBR), then using dd to write the image, but no luck either. Does anyone have any pointers?
[15:16] <DShepherd> niekie, how was jaunty been for you so far?
[15:16] <leohartx> Jeruvy : i saw, but i'm wondering does extra translation take spaces of 3,6 gb ?
[15:16] <blackadr> er
Ok i open that archive with archive tool a read documentation
[15:17] <blackadr> 9.04 even :)
[15:17] <niekie> DShepherd: I've not installed Jaunty yet.
[15:17] <nick_h[litage]> i just updated my firefox3 package, and it seems i need to restart firefox. any suggestions for how to do that without losing my firefox session state (ie: windows and tabs)?
now ?
[15:17] <DShepherd> niekie, same here. well carry on! :-)
[15:17] <ikonia> MaxxTaDeeR: then why are you asking how to open it
[15:17] <hwilde> shane2peru, if you have printer driver that support postscript yes
[15:17] <zetheroo> ﻿ how do you upgrade to the latest ALSA?
[15:17] <Pici> leohartx: The dvd includes portions of the universe repositories as well, so you could isntall more software without having to download it from the repos.
[15:17] <shane2peru> hwilde: ahh, that may be my problem, thanks!
[15:17] <d34th> My 8.10 box isnt working i tried restarting but after they released 9.04 nothing i do gets my box to work
tell me please how can i run some comands that is in INSTALL file ??
[15:18] <leohartx> Pici : have you ever tried it ?
[15:18] <gypsymauro> sebsebseb: I'm searching it in synaptic and it doesn't find it
[15:18] <virtx> hi
[15:18] <ikonia> MaxxTaDeeR: you type them how they say, and I suggest you take this to one of your "hacking" channels for support
[15:18] <sebsebseb> gypsymauro: maybe it's in another repo
[15:18] <sebsebseb> gypsymauro: can you install via command line?
[15:18] <sebsebseb> gypsymauro: sudo apt-get install vlc
[15:18] <virtx> what pkg contains asm/page.h ? linu-kernel-headers doesnt
[15:18] <frostburn> nick_h[litage], firefox should prompt you to exit firefox and save tabs?  if not get tab mix plus
[15:18] <virtx> linux*
[15:19] <firsm> The jaunty cd fails to start with "Buffer I/O error on device sr0", any ideas?
[15:19] <sebsebseb> !find vlc
[15:19] <sebsebseb> !info vlc
[15:19] <frostburn> firsm, your cd was burned too quickly and your drive cannot read it
[15:19] <sebsebseb> gypsymauro: ok it's in universe according to that, you got universe enabled?
[15:19] <grimd34th> yo i cant get my ubuntu box working after they released update my box wont start up
[15:19] <blackadr> anyone where who was using fglrx with 8.10 and upgraded to 9.04?  Does fglrx work? or is there a version that works?
[15:19] <mint3> blackadr, it works am on jaunty
[15:19] <firsm> frostburn: mmh okay, I'll try cdrecord speed=1 then, thanks
[15:19] <sebsebseb> grimd34th: you upgraded to 9.04, and now can't get on Ubuntu?
[15:20] <virtx> error: asm/page.h: No such file or directory
[15:20] <grimd34th> no, its still 8.10
[15:20] <sebsebseb> grimd34th: oh you can't upgrade you mean?
[15:20] <zagabar1> How do I install a program that comes with a Makefile?
[15:20] <grimd34th> i cant turn the thing on
[15:20] <ikonia> zagabar1: what program do you want
[15:20] <pvandewyngaerde> is firefox 3.0.9 in ubuntu 9.04 ?
[15:20] <mint3> !makefile
[15:20] <sebsebseb> grimd34th: your computer won't go on at all?
[15:20] <mint3> !find make
[15:20] <blackadr> mint3: danke schon! looks like it's upgraden tyme
[15:20] <grimd34th> yea
[15:20] <Hetor> can anyone help me with sound problem?
[15:20] <blackadr> bbl
[15:20] <mint3> blackadr, bitte
[15:20] <bram_> anyone? .... unr + macbook pro? :)
[15:21] <Type3Singularity> zagabar1: If its just a makefile, type 'make' then 'make install', ./configure might bee needed if it has a ./configure file
[15:21] <sebsebseb> pvandewyngaerde: 3.0.9  does not exist,  you either meant  Firefox 3.0  or   Firefox 2.0.9
[15:21] <mint3> !fglrx
[15:21] <grimd34th> so i got on a diff pc sshed to a server then irc just so i cam get some support
[15:21] <sebsebseb> pvandewyngaerde: Firefox 3.0 is in Ibex
[15:21] <asdf_> how do i not get the new notifications and instead keep the old ones when i update?
[15:21] <asdf_> ie libnotify?
[15:21] <sebsebseb> pvandewyngaerde: uh in jaunty
[15:21] <govatent> hey guys
[15:21] <zagabar1> ikonia: http://www.sirlab.de/linux/download_vocoder.html      the JACK-enabled verison
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[15:21] <govatent> i saw the new ubuntu is out
[15:21] <mint3> indeed govatent , today being the day.
[15:21] <sebsebseb> govatent: yep and the download servers will be packed
[15:21] <govatent> is there a torrent for it yet?
[15:21] <nick_h[litage]> frostburn: i just clicked File > Quit in Firefox, then started Firefox. none of the previous state has returned. i guess i'll use Tab Mix Plus...
[15:21] <danbhfive> asdf_: try installing notifications-daemon    let me know if that works
[15:22] <mint3> !jaunty > govatent
[15:22] <lifi> pvandewyngaerde, yea its 3.0.9 in jaunty
[15:22] <asdf_> danbhfive, i havnt upgraded, im scared
[15:22] <pvandewyngaerde> sebsebseb: i meant Firefox 3  version   3.0.9
[15:22] <grimd34th> i havent upgraded and my box wont start /cry
[15:22]  * sebsebseb Firefox  3.1 soon :)
[15:22] <mint3> yep its firefox 3.0.9 on jaunty
[15:22] <lvlefisto> !torrent > govatent
[15:22] <sebsebseb> pvandewyngaerde: yeah the number thing  my bad etc.   anyway Firefox 3.1 soon :)
[15:22] <nativeangels> join #wine
[15:23] <nativeangels> can anyone here help me with wine
[15:23] <DASPRiD> nativeangels, just beer, sorry
[15:23] <ikonia> nativeangels: the people in #wine-hq are a good bet for wine specific help
[15:23] <ugliefrog> im just hoping after it finishes upgrade it doesnt freeze up....i tried one of the daily releases last week and kept freezing up
[15:23] <nativeangels> ok
[15:23] <alex1> JJ is awsome !
[15:24] <virtx> how can solve error: asm/page.h: No such file or directory
[15:24] <ikonia> virtx: install the missing headers
[15:24] <DASPRiD> (beer = beer emulates everything restless)
[15:24] <virtx> ikonia, i've installed linux-kernel-headers, but nothing
[15:24] <grimd34th> so noone knows how to solve my problem
[15:24] <ikonia> virtx: looks like a libc header, or a gcc include
[15:24] <nativeangels> all i wanted to know was why the pointer dosnt move onto the application opened with wine
[15:24] <aor> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace no longer works?
[15:24] <darkham> solved network-mamager problems?
[15:25] <v_ta> ai,,,
[15:25] <DASPRiD> aor, you have to re-enable it
[15:25] <DASPRiD> should be describes in the changelog
[15:25] <a931bw> hi all
[15:25] <racecar56> hi
[15:25] <fitelpater> I disable allways network-manager and install wicd Oo
[15:25] <a931bw> pm me that one who can help with Turnng on antialiasing in Wine
[15:25] <b00uncer> is there a problem with the latest (downloaded today) updates to 9.04 RC (i.e. which should become 9.04)? After upgrading my keyboard and mouse won't work after X starts, they stop responding as if they were plugged off...any help?
[15:25] <mint3> aor,  no it doesnt but you can make it work optionally if you wish.
[15:25] <niekie> Anyone get Jaunty working on their EeePC yet? :)
[15:25] <a931bw> pm me that one who can help with Turnng on antialiasing in Wine
[15:25] <aor> Is there a way of restart X on the base install?
[15:25] <zer0c00l> hi, i am  downloading ubuntu 8.04  from ubuntu website, is it patched with all updates released so far
[15:25] <darph> hi, i can't see language pacl 'divehi' in language support. up until 8.10 it was listed
[15:26] <niekie> zer0c00l: 8.04? I hope you're getting 9.04 ;)
[15:26] <ikonia> a931bw: please don't repeat your question as often, leave it 10 - 15 minutes so that more people can see it
[15:26] <govatent> how did you guys download 9.04?
[15:26] <virtx> ikonia, i've installed linux-libc-dev, but  nothing always
[15:26] <zer0c00l> niekie, its 8.04 lts
[15:26] <mint3> zer0c00l, no, you will need to update them. why not try 9,04
[15:26] <niekie> zer0c00l: Though, well, 8.04 might me a good choice too, if you want LTS then.
[15:26] <ikonia> virtx: it may be looking in the wrong place, check the configure script
[15:26] <mint3> !jaunty | govatent
[15:26] <niekie> s/me/be/
[15:26] <govatent> !torrents
[15:27] <virtx> ikonia, there isn't nothing page.h in the system
[15:27] <niekie> LTS' are nice, but I usually prefer the latest and greatest myself :)
[15:27] <ikonia> virtx: gcc headers then
[15:27] <mint3> yeah gcc headers
[15:27] <virtx> ikonia, the name of package?
[15:27] <vixey> jaunty totally crashed vmware :/
[15:27] <zer0c00l> mint3, niekie do we have any releases (even unofficial ) that is patched with updates released so far
[15:27] <ikonia> virtx: no idea witout looking
[15:27] <shane2peru> hwilde: if the printer doesn't support ps then I can still print via lpr?
[15:27] <vixey> is it a sign that it will also crash on my computer?
[15:28] <KoolD> !torrents
[15:28] <mint3> zer0c00l, not that i know of.
[15:28] <Xintruder> hi
[15:28] <Xintruder> Grep kk *.php is not searching inside the text files for the 'kk' charcters
[15:28] <Xintruder> what am i doing wrong?
[15:28] <Xintruder> i have a group of php files
[15:29] <Xintruder> i want to search for the kk characters in them
[15:29] <zer0c00l> any one here knows where could i download fully patched version of ubuntu?
[15:29] <ikonia> zer0c00l: from ubuntu.com
[15:29] <darph> hi, i can't see language pack 'divehi' in language support. up until 8.10 it was listed.
[15:29] <ikonia> zer0c00l: get the latest release of the version you want and it will be up to date as of that point release.
[15:30] <KoolD> is it possible to upgrade 64bits hassle free  if i'm currently running 32bits
[15:30] <zer0c00l> ikonia, ok
[15:30] <Xintruder> anyone?
[15:30] <Xintruder> :
[15:30] <vixey> is there a list of hardware that 9.04 is known to boot on?
[15:30] <b00uncer> ah I'll just try and solve it myself..maybe reinstalling the X-related packages helps
[15:30] <hateball> KoolD: You need to reinstall. If you keep /home on a separate partition it's a fairly trivial trask
[15:30] <virtx> ikonia, there isn't gcc headers, just libc6-dev, but i've this
[15:30] <anom1> zer0c00l: are you trying to, say, download an older but LTS version?  or you just want the latest version?
[15:30] <fitelpater>  /j #launchpad
[15:30] <fitelpater> ups
[15:31] <zer0c00l> anom1, LTS
[15:31] <KoolD> hateball: so i backup and reinstall??
[15:31] <sv_osusr1> I am looking for non-memory intensive picture viewer in ubuntu
[15:31] <niekie> fitelpater: Heh. I always do that :\
[15:31] <zer0c00l> anom1, I want LTS with all patches released so far
[15:31] <hateball> KoolD: Pretty much
[15:31] <mrwes> hateball: you can reinstall without having /home on a separate partition -- since Hardy
[15:31] <pepperjack> sv_osusr1: gqview, feh
[15:31] <hateball> mrwes: did not know that :)
[15:31] <racecar56_> ack restarting just to restart X is a PAIN
[15:31] <shivam> Ubuntu 8.10 cannot detect my bison web cam. Please help
[15:31] <sv_osusr1> pepperjack: thx
[15:32] <ikonia> virtx: there is a gcc headers / dev package
[15:32] <zer0c00l> i guess we could do it with reconstructor
[15:32] <mrwes> hateball: nor did I :)
[15:32] <racecar56_> i _HATE_ this new no ctrl-alt-backspace feature
[15:32] <Pici> !dontzap | racecar56_
[15:32] <virtx> ikonia, i cant find it
[15:32] <mrwes> hateball: and of course you would format the partition
[15:32] <anom1> zer0c00l: you can't install the original 8.04 and update from there?
[15:32] <racecar56_> it dosent work
[15:32] <mrwes> would not*
[15:32] <racecar56_> Pici, i tried that
[15:32] <sandralafe> hello
[15:32] <racecar56_> Pici, it dosent work
[15:33] <zer0c00l> anom1, its for mass deployment some 50 computers, it would be nice if its updated and it will save bandwidth
[15:33] <Qtpaxa> is there any chance of using 2 different mouses in the same computer?
[15:33] <sandralafe> im searching for the ubuntu jaunty jackelope room
[15:33] <jeiworth> uhm did they just close the ubuntu+1 and kick everybody over here? *fg*
[15:33] <vixey> Qtpaxa yeah
[15:33] <anom1> zer0c00l: ah. silly me. can't help you there, i'm n00b in this.
[15:33] <racecar56> Pici, spoke too soon
[15:33] <racecar56> Pici, xD
[15:33] <vixey> Qtpaxa I did that once
[15:33] <sandralafe> but i cant seem to find it anymore
[15:33] <racecar56> Pici, it works now
[15:33] <Pici> racecar56: I figured as soon as you left.
[15:33] <zer0c00l> anom1, no problem :)
[15:33] <DanielV> hi, perhaps anybody can help me? I have downloaded and burned the 9.04 desktop CD. I do not want to do a fresh install but just upgrade all my computers. How to do that?
[15:33] <ksbalaji> is there any other latest LTS than 8.04?
[15:33] <racecar56> Pici, lol
[15:33] <vixey> not on ubuntu though don' tknow how with ubuntu
[15:33] <bram_> hey guys, is there a channel dedicated to the netbook release of ubuntu?
[15:33] <Pici> ksbalaji: no
[15:33] <Qtpaxa> vixey: did they worked individually?
[15:34] <vixey> Qtpaxa yeah I used it for 3D drawing
[15:34] <jeiworth> ksbalaji: LTS release are every 2  years, next is 10.04
[15:34] <mint3> sandralafe, dont think it exist no more. i.e today jaunty is officially out. hence supported in here.
[15:34] <sandralafe> does somebody know the name of the chatroom for ubuntu 9.04?
[15:34] <Qtpaxa> vixey: where did u get that?
[15:34] <n8tuser> DanielV -> have you not learned yet, upgrading can cause you to loose hair?  :P  do a fresh install instead
[15:34] <Pici> sandralafe: This one.
[15:34] <Madpilot> sandralafe, this one
[15:34] <mint3> used to be #ubuntu+1 i think, sandralafe .
[15:34] <vixey> Qtpaxa I wrote it based on the USB API
[15:34] <niekie> DanielV: You do not need to download 9.04 to upgrade to it. However, now that you have already done that, you can just insert the CD into your Ubuntu system and a message should pop up.
[15:34] <sandralafe> ok ill try
[15:34] <frostburn> is there an easy way to display mem usage for a process in human readable format kb/mb?
[15:34] <Pici> mint3: Its released now, so its #ubuntu
[15:34] <shivam> Ubuntu 8.10 is not detecting bison web cam. Is there any solution. Please help!!
[15:34] <ubuntuphile> does ubuntu DVD contain VLC media player?
[15:34] <darph> anyone?
[15:34] <Qtpaxa> vixey: but u don't know how to make that on ubuntu, do u?
[15:34] <sandralafe> doesnt exist ubuntu+1
[15:35] <JMFTheVCI> so ubuntu+1 and ubuntu channels are now the same?
[15:35] <mint3> Pici,  i know that. i was telling the chap that its supported here now.
[15:35] <racecar56> yeah
[15:35] <vixey> no
[15:35] <mint3> sandralafe,  read what i said. i said it existed uptil today or yesterday.
[15:35] <racecar56> ubuntu+1 redirects here
[15:35] <darph> i can't see language pack 'divehi' in language support. up until 8.10 it was listed.
[15:35] <sandralafe> anyway i cant watch hbo movies neither on sm player nor on vlc
[15:35] <mint3> sandralafe,  if you need help with jaunty , ask HERE.
[15:35] <sandralafe> ok
[15:35] <n8tuser> frostburn -> try using sed after you feed it from free ?
[15:35] <JMFTheVCI> racecar56: this is going to be a very busy channel!
[15:35] <racecar56> try doing /join #ubuntu+1 and it says "#ubuntu+1 #ubuntu :Forwarding to another channel"
[15:35] <J-_> !webcam | shivam
[15:35] <jbroome> #ubuntu+1 is closed until karmic devel starts
[15:35] <racecar56> JMFTheVCI, yeah
[15:36] <Shadow121> What is the recommended Directory to install software compiled from source?
[15:36] <DanielV> Niekie: yes, then a message appears that the CD contains packages. It is then also added to the software sources. But then: the notification appears that there are updates. It contains the new distribution release message. When I choose to upgrade it starts downloading instead of using the cd!
[15:36] <sandralafe> i installed: ubuntu restricted extras, smplayer, vlc, me-tv, tunapie, medibuntu keyring
[15:36] <firsm> Ok, I re-burned the ubuntu jaunty cd at the lowest possible speed, but now all I get is a black screen after the splash screen. anyone else has that problem?
[15:36] <danbhfive> Shadow121: use checkinstall
[15:36] <ksbalaji> n8tuser, I have been upgrading steadily from gutsy. Till 8.04 no problem at all.
[15:36] <JMFTheVCI> Is there a list of ubuntu-sub channels for particular areas of support? Something that can be in the announcement message?
[15:36] <n8tuser> Shadow121 -> /usr/local/bin
[15:36] <racecar56> does ubuntu 9.04 like the hp pavilion dv9000's bultin webcam?
[15:36] <wrice_> Shadow121: /usr/local/bin
[15:36] <n8tuser> ksbalaji -> you are one of the lucky few
[15:36] <djiezes> I see Amarok 1.4.x isn't in the default repositories (9.04). Am I right or am I missing something? +What's the best way to install it?
[15:36] <hbekel> Shadow121: usually the ./configure --prefix defaults to /usr/local
[15:36] <racecar56> i dont really care if it dosent, as i dont use webcams
[15:36] <pepperjack> Shadow121: depends.  if you just want to make install i often place it in like /home/$USER/local otherwise it gets sloppy trying to track down stuff that was manually installed
[15:36] <frostburn> racecar56, yes and no, it's pretty hard to get it working, haven't tried with 9.04 though... and my laptop died
[15:37] <mint3> n8tuser,  jaunty install is smooth, same for me.
[15:37] <racecar56> frostburn, k
[15:37] <Shadow121> Thanks guys
[15:37] <racecar56> frostburn, i think it worked for me, but its been a while
[15:37] <epscylonb> is it out yet ?
[15:37] <Madpilot> JMFTheVCI, ppl here will usually point specialty channels out as required. There's a mostly-complete list in the ubuntu wiki
[15:37] <n8tuser> mint3 we will see, lets wait for a few weeks and see how it goes
[15:37] <racecar56> frostburn, O_O it works
[15:37] <simmerz> am I better off doing a clean install of Jaunty, or upgrading from Intrepid?
[15:37] <JMFTheVCI> madpilot: Ok, thanks.
[15:37] <epscylonb> upgrade from warty, thats what i am doing
[15:38] <frostburn> racecar56, make sure it never overheats, my vid card melted =(
[15:38] <oshua86_> hey guys, if I got ubuntu i know it comes with gnome as default, how can I switch back and forth between gnome and kde?
[15:38] <jbroome> epscylonb: going from warty to jaunty?
[15:38] <Whitor> Why isn't the torrent available on the bit torrent section of the Ubuntu main site ?
[15:38] <firsm> simmerz: probably upgrade, jaunty cd doesn't even boot for me.
[15:38] <n8tuser> simmerz -> my suggestion is fresh install
[15:38] <mint3> n8tuser, i have been using it since the alpha version was out and honestly can say had no hang ups or whatsoever so far
[15:38] <racecar56> frostburn, my vid card acts weird
[15:38] <joaopinto> oshua86_, you can install the kubuntu-desktop package for kde
[15:38] <pepperjack> oshua86_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop then just choose one at login screen
[15:38] <racecar56> frostburn, mine is 2 years old
[15:38] <mint3> oshua86_,  you can always download kde.
[15:38] <jbroome> simmerz: i've done both, and have had no issues with an upgrade
[15:38] <thalias09> I want to congratulate the Ubuntu devs for this release.
[15:38] <n8tuser> mint3 -> you did a fresh install, not an upgrade
[15:38] <oshua86_> pepperjack, great let me try
[15:38] <mint3> !kde > oshua86_
[15:38] <Whitor> Where is the torrent for 9.04 ?
[15:38] <Pici> !torrents > Whitor
[15:38] <frostburn> racecar56, yeah mine makes the screen flicker, and it eventually corrupted the vid memory, there's artifacts in the BIOS =|
[15:38] <copland-leopard> I finally found a media player that works
[15:38] <racecar56> on homepage
[15:38] <mint3> n8tuser,  i did an upgrade, from intrepid, about a month ago.
[15:38] <thalias09> Thank you for your hard work to give us Ubuntu Jaunty.
[15:39] <racecar56> frostburn, k
[15:39] <Ghoti|AFK> Happy release day everyone! :)
[15:39] <Jimmymaniac> simmerz: personally i had zero problems when jumping from hardy to intrepid, so i plan on doing the same for jaunty, as soon as the dust cloud from the mobs on the repos clears out :P
[15:39] <thurston> Hello, I am using an acer TravelMate 6292 laptop. Should I install the Desktop Edition of Jaunty or the Netbook Remix?
[15:39] <mint3> Ghoti,  to you too mate.
[15:39] <copland-leopard> Boxee Failed,  Mplayer Fail, VLC Epic fail ,  Xine FTW
[15:39] <n8tuser> mint3 really? there was not a upgrade path to it about a mont ago.. so not sure what you did
[15:39] <racecar56> frostburn, mine acts weird as in it dosent seem to work with 3D
[15:39] <rjune> What apt-get command will simply list all packages that are available for update? I've tried apt-get update -u, but that still blocks on do  it or not
[15:39] <noren> Ghoti: nothing released as of yet
[15:39] <mint3> n8tuser, i upgraded to the alpha version.
[15:40] <djiezes> !amarok
[15:40] <racecar56> frostburn, sometimes while returning from standby it gets a gray screen
[15:40] <racecar56> frostburn, but it goes away
[15:40] <Pici> !upgrade | rjune Please use the steps outlined here to upgrade
[15:40] <rapha> hmmm gotta try and see if hibernation will finally work on the laptop with 9.04
[15:40] <benste> so able to access launchpad?
[15:40] <frostburn> racecar56, yeah, i'm not buying HP ever again, or a laptop that requires a heavy vid card, netbooks all the way
[15:40] <Ghoti> noren: Really? I thought today was the day! It's even up on ubuntu.com.  I'm confused now.
[15:41] <benste> after updates to stable Nvida drivers crashed !!
[15:41] <Pici> benste: You're not the first person to report problems.
[15:41] <screamsayonara> does anyone know how to make 4th gen 8gb ipods to work in intrepid
[15:41] <Discipulus> I'm having a problem with Sound-Juicer
[15:41] <benste> Pici thx
[15:41] <Rockj> anyone else upgrading to jaunty atm? I fired up the default package manager in tray and used the dist-upgrade button. However, it's still running on fetching file 1514 of 1514
[15:41] <rjune> Pici, Not useful, I don't want to upgrade, I want to list the packages available for upgrade and I'm missing the proper option
[15:41] <rapha> Ghoti: 9.04 *is* out
[15:41] <Discipulus> it is ripping at an incredibly low rate
[15:41] <Rockj> and there is really no load on my computer
[15:41] <Matr|X> im haveing probelm with sql server 5
[15:41] <Rockj> should I press cancel and retry? o_O
[15:41] <benste> Pici don you know something caused nvidia kernel module to crash from RC to stable?
[15:41] <racecar56> frostburn, i automatically got this, for free, its because they 'stole' my old laptop which died due to the keyboard being broken
[15:41] <stone1343_> hey, when's the alpha for karmic gonna be available? (relax, I'm just kidding)
[15:41] <noren> Ghoti: i checed an hour agp, mau be it out
[15:42] <Pici> rjune: You mean from packages that are available to upgrade from intrepid to Jaunty?
[15:42] <racecar56> frostburn, they refused to fix it, so God knows where it is now
[15:42] <frostburn> racecar56, also make sure to close the lid in the center, don't close it on one side, the hinges will break... it's in laptop heaven
[15:42] <racecar56> my 3D dosen't work, i have the nvidia-180 driver but it isn't working
[15:42] <racecar56> frostburn, speaking of break, on the top right edge of the screen is broken :o
[15:42] <noren> racecar56: get nvidia-settings also
[15:42] <aspoor_> can we fix it so I do not have to hit F11 when returning to my non-dynamic web browser?
[15:43] <racecar56> noren, nvidia-settings is already the newest version.
[15:43] <acr0nym> hello, quick question, I installed some new kernels (.deb) and now I want to remove them. I can't see them in synaptic package manager though
[15:43] <rjune> Pici, No. I mean I have 8.04 installed, I have 7 packages available for update,  I want to just list them out.
[15:43] <Flannel> rjune: sudo apt-get --simulate dist-upgrade
[15:43] <Flannel> rjune: That'll simulate an upgrade, during which they'll be listed.
[15:44] <Ghoti> Flannel: wouldn't it be just upgrade; not dist-upgrade if he just wants the latest packages for his release?
[15:44] <benste> Did someone get Nvidia 180 driver working?
[15:44] <pepperjack> acr0nym: do they show up in a dpkg -l?  you can use dpkg to remove them
[15:44] <unr3a1> erUSUL, i just want to make sure before I go forward with the upgrade.  if I upgrade from the alternative cd, will it reset any of my settings or remove any files or folders I have created?
[15:44] <racecar56> no
[15:44] <racecar56> not me
[15:44] <Rockj> rjune: if you want to dist-upgrade to latest release, you need to make sure synaptic picks up normal releases
[15:44] <Rockj> default it is configured to only warn you about LTS releases
[15:44] <rjune> Rockj, I don't want to do that.
[15:44] <Rockj> oh, ok
[15:44] <racecar56> does 9.04 hate nvidia gefore go 7600?
[15:44] <racecar56> o.o
[15:45] <rjune> I want to list what packages are availalbe to update in the current distribution
[15:45] <Flannel> Ghoti: upgrade may not catch all of them, dist-upgrade will.
[15:45] <benste> acecar56 mee too :-)
[15:45] <Flannel> rjune: Yes, the previous command will do that.
[15:45] <rapha> anybody running 9.04 on a ThinkPad T61 yet?
[15:45] <Ghoti> benste: I have the 180 drivers working, though Firefox needs to be toggled in and out of kioks mode on occasion
[15:45] <Ghoti> Flannel: ah; good to know. thanks.
[15:45] <racecar56> gosh i wish i would have stayed with intrepid :'(
[15:45] <acr0nym> pepperjack, yep they do :) thanks, I still have much to learn
[15:45] <Pici> rjune: Normally just doing apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade will list them before it prompts you to continue
[15:45] <unr3a1> does anyone else know?
[15:45] <rjune> Flannel, yes, I caught that, thank you for listening to what I said and not what you wanted  to hear
[15:45] <racecar56> should i reinstall?
[15:45] <benste> eacecar56, ghoti 7600go worked during alpha beta and RC but crashed with stable updates ;-)
[15:45] <crossedf8> woot 9.04
[15:45] <rjune> Pici, is for script, I just want to list without blocking.
[15:45] <unr3a1> if I choose to upgrade rather than clean install, will the install effect any files or folders that I have created?
[15:46] <ellar> whats the preferred metalink client for ubuntu? any program with gui?
[15:46] <unr3a1> or apps that I have installed?
[15:46] <racecar56> benste, i do have rc....
[15:46] <Pici> rjune: Ah. Okay, then Flannel's command will be good.
[15:46] <benste> racecar, didn't you update today?
[15:46] <Jeruvy> racecar56: why not get release?  quit playing with beta.
[15:46] <racecar56> not beta... rc
[15:46] <Rockj> interessting, the dist-upgrade util bugs here.
[15:46] <Rockj> it's stuck in some weird loop
[15:46] <pepperjack> rjune: might use the -s simulate/dryrun switch for apt-get and direct it to a file :)
[15:46] <Rockj> atleast after what strace can tell me
[15:46] <racecar56> a distribution is software, all i did was sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:46] <maxagaz> still no torrent to download jaunty ?
[15:47] <djuggler> I've added a share in /etc/samba/smb.conf with path=/var/www  guest ok=yes read only=no create mask=0777 Conceptually I should be able to use winscp on my xp box to download files to the www.
[15:47] <rjune>  /me facepalms
[15:47] <unr3a1> does anyone know?
[15:47] <rapha> oh great ... desktop effects disabled by default for my laptop :-/
[15:47] <racecar56> Jeruvy, when i upgraded i upgraded to rc but dosen't it update you to stable when you dist-upgrade?
[15:47] <ellar> maxagaz, http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/
[15:47] <maxagaz> !torrent
[15:47] <Ghoti> djuggler: if you're using winSCP, why use SMB? Why not just use SCP?
[15:47] <djuggler> regardless of if I use the xp box to grab files from the outside world or if I use gFTP on the ubuntu box itself, any directory created through ftp gets 0755
[15:47] <Aperculum> is there a bittorrent mirror for 9.04?
[15:47] <yarri> Hej, I am new to IRC, can you tell me how to list channels on this server and suggest a good guide to IRC
[15:48] <Pici> !torrents > Aperculum
[15:48] <ellar> Aperculum, scroll down
[15:48] <jurism> Where can I get the name of my primary network interface? I am on Ubuntu 8.04 on a virtual server (Virtuozzo)
[15:48] <Asad> Another ubuntu mirror ... http://94.23.5.37/ubuntu/
[15:48] <frostburn> jurism, ifconfig
[15:48] <yarri> and what strings like !p2p are doing?
[15:48] <Jeruvy> racecar56: then what "exactly" are you using.  Please take the time to provide some meaningful info, and we'll be more than willing to help you.
[15:48] <Ghoti> jurism: on Virtuosse servers, it's usually venet0:0
[15:48] <ilovebrownies> I'm planning on doing a clean install of Jaunty, and I want to try ext4. Should I use ext4 on all my partitions?
[15:48] <unr3a1> I guess I will find out on my own....
[15:48] <racecar56> Jeruvy, i upgraded from intrepid to rc, and i dist-upgraded today
[15:49] <nassrat> Hey anybody here worked on ssh-agent and Gnome Ubuntu and knows why it works like ssh-add </dev/null by default? I would like that in kubuntu
[15:49] <_Jill_> eh... flash player doesn't work on youtube
[15:49] <sebsebseb> ilovebrownies: sure why not
[15:49] <benste> Jeruvy I'm having the same problem with nvidia propriative driver like racecar56
[15:49] <Jeruvy> racecar56: that isn't a problem..is it?
[15:49] <simNIX> djuggler, for samba having guest greate with rwx sound a risk ...
[15:49] <djuggler> so subsequent files to the new directory fail to get written. How do I get the newly created directory from ftp to default to 0777?
[15:49] <sebsebseb> ilovebrownies: ,but if you got important data, I would recommend backing it up some where else to, because there are a few issues with Ext4 still
[15:49] <racecar56> Jeruvy, no
[15:49] <racecar56> Jeruvy, 3D dosen't work
[15:49] <Aperculum> excellent, thanks
[15:49] <djuggler> simNIX: yes if this server were accessible to the world.
[15:49] <doggyslobber> Does anyone have a quick and dirty way to rename the images in a directory to FILENAME001 ... 002 etc?
[15:49] <djuggler> It's accessible only to me and that was a troubleshooting move.
[15:49] <racecar56> Jeruvy, and last night i was fighting to get my card working
[15:49] <Jeruvy> racecar56: again, some meaningful info.  I have 3D on 4 machines (and counting) working great.
[15:50] <racecar56> Jeruvy, but it's either horrible display or no 3D
[15:50] <jurism> Ghoti: thank You! and thanks to frostburn :)
[15:50] <racecar56> Jeruvy, and it claims no screens were found
[15:50] <ilovebrownies> sebsebseb: Thanks! I think I'll wait a while longer then.
[15:50] <sriramoman> what does ubuntu alternate cd mean?
[15:50] <Jeruvy> racecar56: so do you boot to the desktop or shell?
[15:50] <sebsebseb> ilovebrownies: well 9.04 is maybe a little pointless with Ext3
[15:51] <ruhaan_> sriramoman: its a text nly cd
[15:51] <racecar56> Jeruvy, desktop
[15:51] <ruhaan_> no gui
[15:51] <Discipulus> Sound-juicer is having problems extracting CDs. My CD drive is capable of ripping at 15x, and indeed has done so multiple times, but today it's ripping at 2.5x and it is freezing about halfway through, the application isn't freezing, but the rip is halting progress about halfway through
[15:51] <racecar56> Jeruvy, my /home is on a seprate partition so if i should reinstall intrepid on top it's all ok
[15:51] <pepperjack> sriramoman: its the classic install cd no live distro text install.
[15:51] <Aperculum> is there a reason for not having a torrent for netbook remix?
[15:51] <n2diy> 1700 users!
[15:51] <the7thmagus> hey, when I run GNOME, my CPU Usage according to System Monitor/top/htop is 100%. but the sum of CPU time of all running processes is only like 30%
[15:51] <sebsebseb> n2diy: nearly  1696
[15:51] <crankharder> how can I open a PDF for editing?
[15:51] <Jeruvy> racecar56: reinstalling is a pointless exercise unless you've corrupted files.  Did you corrupt your install?
[15:52] <Asad> If anybody in europe needs a fast desktop 32-bit iso, use this mirror here: http://94.23.5.37/ubuntu/ (by www.linuxprimetime.com ... )
[15:52] <djuggler> so eliminating samba, and xp... if I use an ftp client on the ubuntu box itself (in this case I'm using gFTP) and I pull down a directory from some external server to /var/www/ the directories get created with 0755 permissions and the ftp program reports that it doesn't have rights to put files in that newly created directory.
[15:52] <racecar56> Jeruvy, i don't know
[15:52] <Ghoti> djuggler: man umask
[15:52] <dethstar> should've known better than to update on the "release day"... it's slow as molasses
[15:52] <the7thmagus> hey, when I run GNOME, my CPU Usage according to System Monitor/top/htop is 100%. but the sum of CPU time of all running processes is only like 30%
[15:52] <sriramoman> ruhaan_, pepperjack the desktop version image cd's for jaunty in releases.ubuntu.com seems to be dated 20-Apr-2009 15:29. is it the final cd or release candidate?
[15:52] <wrice_> Aperculum: Afaik, netbook remix for Jaunty hasn't yet been released.
[15:52] <racecar56> Jeruvy, if i install the drive from the nvidia site xorg fusses about no screens
[15:52] <racecar56> Jeruvy, 180.51
[15:53] <ruhaan_> sriramoman: the RC
[15:53] <mint3> can anyone help me get an rss reader for jaunty ?
[15:53] <racecar56> Jeruvy, back on 9.04a3 it worked like magic
[15:53] <Aperculum> wrice_: it is not? o.O
[15:53] <racecar56> mint3, liferea, getdeb.net
[15:53] <mint3> like the one that ticks at the top of your desktop etc.
[15:53] <Aperculum> I see
[15:53] <djuggler> Ghoti: perfect. thanks
[15:53] <sriramoman> then could someone point me to the torrent for 9.04 final
[15:53] <Aperculum> wrice_: I'll wait for it then
[15:53] <Ghoti> djuggler: my pleasure
[15:53] <sebsebseb> dethstar: heh heh yeah,   I  got a sort of 9.04 anyway install here (as in 8.10 to alpha6 with issues that recomained, to beta, to rc),  and then I clean install on weekend probably
[15:53] <simNIX> djuggler, if I am someuser and ftp files to somewhere the users someuser can read and write even with 755 on folders ... gain is no onne else ...
[15:53] <kliklik> So, after installing Jaunty and having fglrx totaly fail, I'm dumping ati for nvidia. Anyone using gtx295 on amd64?
[15:54] <mint3> i like football so i like to know whats happening. Usually on my previous o.s i could have it tick at the top of my screen
[15:54] <sebsebseb> dethstar: release day will be packed
[15:54] <the7thmagus> hey, when I run GNOME, my CPU Usage according to System Monitor/top/htop is 100%. but the sum of CPU time of all running processes is only like 30%
[15:54] <pepperjack> kliklik: funny ive been dumping nvidia for ati.. id give it some time
[15:54] <dethstar> sebsebseb, yeah... I've got 8 hours remaining
[15:54] <weather15> 3 here
[15:54] <sebsebseb> dethstar: 8 hours for the ISO heh
[15:54] <sebsebseb> dethstar: the ISO yeah?
[15:55] <dethstar> sebsebseb, no.. for the upgrade
[15:55] <weather15> yup
[15:55] <Jeruvy> racecar56: from desktop go system, ->admin -> system log, then view the Xorg.0.log, look for any errors (EE)  pastebin the results
[15:55] <Aperculum> sriramoma http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[15:55] <racecar56> Jeruvy, kk
[15:55] <Raylz> the7thmagus: must be the new infinity loop support
[15:55] <chazco> Hi... how can I install LAMP + phpmyadmin on 9.04 desktop edition?
[15:55] <sebsebseb> dethstar: oh an upgrade, that means you have Ext3.  unless  you do something to it for partial Ext4 suppourt
[15:55] <dethstar> sebsebseb, should've tried that apt-p2p
[15:55] <weather15> Using osu open source lab
[15:55] <weather15> to download
[15:55] <weather15> 9.04
[15:55] <space_cadet> will intrepid auto upgrade to jaunty
[15:55] <space_cadet> ?
[15:55] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: no
[15:55] <Raylz> space_cadet: no
[15:56] <racecar56> space_cadet, no, because thats what windows does
[15:56] <space_cadet> update-manager -d?
[15:56] <Pici> !upgrade | space_cadet
[15:56] <dethstar> sebsebseb, yeah... I'm sure this will be a re-install at some point.. really just wanted to play with it at work today
[15:56] <mogul218_> sup folks now that it has been fixed, i have a gripe i need help with.  Nothing serious but the font on my log in screen is very tiny.  When I installed 9.04 on my laptop I could see the font just fine but on my PC i can't even see what I'm typing.  Is there an easy fix to this that i'm missing?
[15:56] <Raylz> space_cadet: sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:56] <tomek> hello all
[15:56] <weather15> is it better to download the upgrade for 9.04 or do a fresh install?
[15:56] <Raylz> or something like that
[15:56] <JackWat|Lap> space_cadet: you have to go to sfotware sources and tell it to update for normal builds
[15:56] <racecar56> Jeruvy, pastebinit
[15:56] <Raylz> weather15: defintely
[15:56] <sebsebseb> dethstar: well if you had the rc, you would of had something that was very similar to 9.04 final
[15:56] <tanveer> can i install world of warcraft on linux/
[15:56] <JackWat|Lap> can you upgrade from 9.04 beta to release?
[15:57] <sebsebseb> tanveer: yes
[15:57] <JackWat|Lap> tanveer: yes
[15:57] <sebsebseb> tanveer: in Wine
[15:57] <Pici> !final | JackWat|Lap
[15:57] <new> Do somebody know the torrents of the new stable jaunty release?
[15:57] <racecar56> JackWat|Lap, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade\
[15:57] <racecar56> JackWat|Lap, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:57] <Raylz> JackWat|Lap: you automatically get the release
[15:57] <DJones> !final | JackWat|Lap
[15:57] <tomek> listen guys, I have a question : my speakers ain't working (despite the fact that they are perfecly well on windows)
[15:57] <shiznebit> what a packed house
[15:57] <dethstar> sebsebseb, sure.. I bet I probably would've
[15:57] <tomek> what do I do?
[15:57] <JackWat|Lap> Raylz: lets say i dont have internet access. how do i upgrade from beta to release?
[15:57] <new> Do somebody know the torrents of the new stable jaunty release?
[15:57] <Ghoti> !offline | JackWat|Lap
[15:57] <pronoy> i have a serious issue with usplash image...can anyone help me with that ??
[15:58] <hale3rd> hi
[15:58] <porter1> It's too bad anjuta wasn't fixed
[15:58] <Pici> JackWat|Lap: Download the alternate CD elsewhere and use it as a repository to upgrade your computer.
[15:58] <Jeruvy> new: the main download page isn't properly updated, but pick a mirror by hand, and you should find the .torrents
[15:58] <racecar56> Jeruvy, http://racecar56.pastebin.com/fea3f67e
[15:58] <sriramoman> could someone point me to the torrent link for ubuntu 9.04?
[15:58] <space_cadet> synaptic > repos > updates ?
[15:58] <hale3rd> i was running the Beta, does ubuntu automatically upgrade to the final version?
[15:58] <new> tzhank you
[15:58] <Pici> !torrents > sriramoman
[15:58] <JackWat|Lap> !APTonCD
[15:58] <Raylz> Pici: good idea
[15:58] <Pici> !final > hale3rd
[15:58] <Tetsuoo> where is the alternative installer version gone???
[15:59] <djiezes> Anyone know the best (official?) way to install Amarok 1.4 on Ubuntu 9.04? It's not in the default repositories anymore.
[15:59] <ChopMonkey> !offline
[15:59] <racecar56> Jeruvy, "(EE) Failed to load module "freetype" (module does not exist, 0)" aha
[15:59] <darkham> network manager works now, or not?
[15:59] <racecar56> Jeruvy, found one
[15:59] <weather15> Default is Gnome
[15:59] <mogul218_> the font on my PC's 9.04 login screen is super tiny and unreadable.  How can I fix it?
[15:59] <weather15> Alternate is Text Based
[15:59] <hale3rd> ubottu: thanks!
[15:59] <SwedeMike> you can download torrents from here for instance: http://ftp.df.lth.se/ubuntu-iso/9.04/
[15:59] <dronix> my upgrade is slow :(
[15:59] <JackWat|Lap> !offline > me
[15:59] <JackWat|Lap> !aptoncd > me
[16:00] <weather15> Servers are packed for download of 9.04
[16:00] <racecar56> !aptoncd > me
[16:00] <dronix> yeah I bet
[16:00] <space_cadet> 0% working
[16:00] <space_cadet> stuck
[16:00] <weather15> I'm sure ever the main site was slow fora while
[16:00] <http> hello
[16:00] <http> at all
[16:00] <dethstar> weather15, I bet the servers are damn near smoking right about now
[16:00] <Tetsuoo> 9.04 is not available as alternate installer???
[16:00] <racecar56> space_cadet, press ctrl+c and do what your trying to do again
[16:01] <http> I suggest to wait for 9.04
[16:01] <space_cadet> it just got stuck for a min
[16:01] <dronix> hopefully they'll deal with the heavy traffic next release
[16:01] <JackWat|Lap> Ghoti: i dont have GUI
[16:01] <iceroot> dronix: bittorrent deals with that
[16:01] <racecar56> ._. i hope ill get my card fixed
[16:01] <weather15> 3 Hours 43 Minutes for iso download on OSU Open Source Lab
[16:01] <space_cadet> racecar56, will this update my repos list entries from intrepid to jaunty?
[16:01] <racecar56> space_cadet, you have to do it
[16:01] <space_cadet> ok
[16:01] <http> so I want to setup my jabber account on pidgin, how can I do it? I see error connection when I try
[16:01] <Tetsuoo> just download it from rapidshare  = win
[16:01] <SwedeMike> there are plenty of fast mirrors still working
[16:01] <dronix> iceroot, I don't mean distribution, but the upgrade servers
[16:01] <space_cadet> if they exist ...
[16:01] <new> @dronix: Use torrents to download the cd and then use the cd as a repository
[16:01] <weather15> About 30 KB/sec
[16:02] <J-_> !torrents
[16:02] <iceroot> dronix: ah ok
[16:02] <racecar56> (EE) Failed to load module "freetype" (module does not exist, 0) ummmmmm.....
[16:02] <iceroot> dronix: this will be funny at next lts release
[16:02] <racecar56> lol
[16:02] <Tetsuoo> *wave* alternate installer 9.04 anyone?
[16:02] <http> jabber who help me?
[16:02] <racecar56> Tetsuoo, homepage
[16:02] <slusk> Tetsuoo: running it right now
[16:02] <Tetsuoo> not there
[16:02] <iceroot> !ask | http
[16:03] <racecar56>  
[16:03] <racecar56>  
[16:03] <mogul218_> !final
[16:03] <RabidLockerGnome> hey guys, anyone know of a good fast torrent for 9.04 desktop ?
[16:03] <weather15> Nope
[16:03] <racecar56> (EE) Failed to load module "freetype" (module does not exist, 0)
[16:03] <RabidLockerGnome> i can't find a  decent download anywhere :(
[16:03] <racecar56> what do i do to fix xorg
[16:03] <weather15> I think people keep switching until they find fast download server
[16:03] <ruhaan_> RabidLockerGnome: use torrents
[16:04] <racecar56> RabidLockerGnome, try releases.ubuntu.com
[16:04] <ruhaan_> the servers are gettin hammered
[16:04] <Rockj> is there a torrent up and running yet?
[16:04] <new> USE Torrents
[16:04] <sebsebseb> ruhaan_: of course it's release day
[16:04] <racecar56> and so is my laptop
[16:04] <RabidLockerGnome> ruhaan_: thats what i just asked for lol
[16:04] <new> http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/
[16:04] <racecar56> my laptop is probably gonna break into a thousand peices
[16:04] <weather15> Torrents are a good idea today but after a couple of days your better off to use ftp or http
[16:04] <new> @Rockj: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/
[16:04] <new> Use the torrents
[16:05] <archman> Jaunty released? :D
[16:05] <RabidLockerGnome> the torrent i have looks like 6 hours to download :=\
[16:05] <sebsebseb> weather15: yeah  downloading on the weekend should be :)
[16:05] <JPSman> ok, HEALP, with using fdisk to format my linux partition
[16:05] <tiger> i want to know an option to use my installed program in ubuntu 8.4 on ubuntu 9.4
[16:05] <CydeWeys> All right! We need some more seeders and leechers on here: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4865683/Ubuntu_9.04_Jaunty_Jackalope_64-bit_%28x86-64_AMD64%29_Desktop_RELEA
[16:05] <sebsebseb> JPSman: uhmm?
[16:05] <sriramoman> is there any opensuse 11.1 user here who'd recommend a switch to ubuntu 9.04?
[16:05] <WatchBot> CydeWeys: Please keep your links on topic and work safe.
[16:05] <racecar56> does anyone know how to fix "(EE) Failed to load module "freetype" (module does not exist, 0)" xorg error? this is from my xorg log http://racecar56.pastebin.com/fea3f67e
[16:05] <J-_> Perhaps an op should change the /topic
[16:05] <ellar> RabidLockerGnome, patience
[16:05] <screamsayonara> fuck ipods suck
[16:05] <sebsebseb> tiger: what?
[16:05] <ruhaan_> CydeWeys: all ready on it from my server :)
[16:05] <Rockj> fired up torrent here now new :)
[16:05] <racecar56>  
[16:05] <ellar> RabidLockerGnome, will get better if more have finished downloading and seed
[16:05] <Nikola>  @ sriramomani would
[16:05] <edugonch> hello, does somone knows about a good keyloger for linux?
[16:05] <sebsebseb> !language | screamsayonara
[16:05] <djiezes> Anyone know the best (official?) way to install Amarok 1.4 on Ubuntu 9.04? It's not in the default repositories anymore.
[16:06] <Nikola> I would
[16:06] <italomaia> sriramoman, i know some people that tried opensuse and hated it. Liked ubuntu better
[16:06] <JPSman> sebsebseb: im in livecdsession right now, and I want to use fdisk to format just my 30gig linux partition (7.10) but not my XP partition
[16:06] <weather15> I have I like ubuntu better
[16:06] <CydeWeys> ruhaan_: Sweet, thanks.
[16:06] <Nikola> openSUSE will be good in the next release, but now, stick with ubuntu
[16:06] <ruhaan_> JPSman: use the partition tool
[16:06] <ikonia> CydeWeys: please don't post the piratebay links in here
[16:06] <jelly-bean> i disabled vino and am running tightvncserver instead because it is better compression and faster. however when i connect to the server on :1 (5901) i see a desktop similar to the one when i login regularly from home. if i change anything about my desktop while logged in with vnc, it affects my normal desktop. (e.g. disabling panels, removing items from the panels, closing xwin apps, etc.). how can i have a separate desktop for vnc? my home desktop is tw
[16:06] <gpled> when should we see the option to upgrade to 9.04?
[16:06] <JPSman> ruhaan_ ?
[16:06] <CydeWeys> ikonia: It's a link to Ubuntu. It's not illlegal.
[16:06] <LjL> !language | screamsayonara
[16:06] <tiger> i don't want to reinstall my programs in ubuntu 9.4
[16:06] <RabidLockerGnome> racecar56: how about pasting your xorg.conf into pastebin?
[16:06] <ruhaan_> JPSman: ubuntu comes with a gui partition tool
[16:06] <ruhaan_> use that
[16:06] <ruhaan_> to format
[16:06] <cutout> Hi, am very exited to install jaunty but the problem that I have to much installed and configured apps/servers on my ubuntu 8.10, and I would rather to make a fresh install to use ext4 :D is there any way to backup/restore all installed stuff and data???
[16:06] <racecar56> RabidLockerGnome, i did http://racecar56.pastebin.com/fea3f67e
[16:07] <weather15> over all of all the Distro's I have tried ubuntu seems to be the best
[16:07] <sriramoman> italomaia, basically i felt compiz etc highly unstable in opensuse whereas it was very smooth in ubuntu 8.04 so i was thinking whether to download it again and download all missed packages too again.
[16:07] <ikonia> CydeWeys: the site is in a legal situation, please don't post it
[16:07] <sebsebseb> edugonch: keyloggers can be useful, but  they are still classed as malware by a lot of people,  and  Linux distros hardly has any malware
[16:07] <sriramoman> for ubuntu
[16:07] <JPSman> ruhaan_ yeah but I didnt see an option to format one partition vs another
[16:07] <Rockj> http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[16:07] <Rockj> torrent link atleast
[16:07] <Rockj> :)
[16:07] <RabidLockerGnome> racecar56: no thats your log file
[16:07] <tiger> cutout: i have same problem
[16:07] <CydeWeys> ikonia: I'm not following your logic. How would the Pirate Bay being in a legal situation make it questionable to even post a link to it in here?
[16:07] <racecar56> RabidLockerGnome, oh, sorry im nuts
[16:07] <ruhaan_> JPSman: are u paritions listed in that tool?
[16:07] <RabidLockerGnome> i'm looking for /etc/X11/xorg.conf lol
[16:07] <cutout> tiger: what to do???
[16:07] <CydeWeys> This isn't Communist Russia.
[16:07] <edugonch> no hay nadie en cracker ¬¬
[16:08] <tiger> cutout: i wish i could know
[16:08] <italomaia> sriramoman, well, compiz run very well in my ubuntu too. When i used opensuse, i hated it much before trying compiz
[16:08] <ikonia> CydeWeys: suggesting people to use a site thats in a dubious legal position at the moment - does not seem appropriate at this time
[16:08] <LjL> !es
[16:08] <JPSman> ruhaan_ yes, but it doesnt show an option to erase my old 30gig7.10 partition
[16:08] <racecar56> RabidLockerGnome, http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f3d0ebd10
[16:08] <RabidLockerGnome> I'm totally gonna pirate ubuntu yay! hahaha
[16:08] <racecar56> RabidLockerGnome, lol
[16:08] <ruhaan_> JPSman: right click ur partition
[16:08] <ruhaan_> the ubuntu one
[16:08] <ruhaan_> there shud be an option for formar
[16:08] <ruhaan_> *format
[16:08] <RabidLockerGnome> racecar56:       Load           "freetype" remove that maybe? lol
[16:08] <JPSman> hrm, ok
[16:08] <CydeWeys> ikonia: There's absolutely nothing wrong with using The Pirate Bay to download material that is legal to download. It's no different at all than getting it from the Ubuntu.com torrent servers.
[16:09] <racecar56> RabidLockerGnome, ok removed
[16:09] <ruhaan_> CydeWeys: i wud agree
[16:09] <LjL> CydeWeys: right, so give links to the ubuntu servers (see the topic, too)
[16:09] <http> jabber help me
[16:09] <ikonia> CydeWeys: I'd rather not see it at the moment please while it's in such a dubious state
[16:09] <http> jabber help me
[16:09] <ikonia> http: if you ask a question the channel will try
[16:09] <CydeWeys> LjL: Oh, the Ubuntu torrent servers are good.  But you reach more people through the Pirate Bay.
[16:10] <tiger>  Hi, am very exited to install jaunty but the problem that I have to much installed and configured apps/servers on my ubuntu 8.10, and I would rather to make a fresh install to use ext4 :D is there any way to backup/restore all installed stuff and data???
[16:10] <http> I can't connect to my profile with pidgin
[16:10] <CydeWeys> This is about GNU/Linux evangelism :-D
[16:10] <http> I don't whay
[16:10] <racecar56> RabidLockerGnome, k, anything else?
[16:10] <AlexFera> //
[16:10] <JPSman> ruhaan_ - no right click option available
[16:10] <LjL> CydeWeys: and this channel is not, it's about ubuntu support - so try #ubuntu-release-party if you just have to post links to stuff
[16:10] <RabidLockerGnome> racecar56: nope. not sure if u have to reboot tho
[16:10] <CydeWeys> tiger: Well, if you have another computer on the same network, backing up is pretty simple.
[16:10] <tanveer> after i installed ubuntu , xP was getting a winsock catalog provider error and i cant connect to the internet
[16:10] <racecar56> RabidLockerGnome, ill restart x
[16:10] <http> I think that missing same opton
[16:10] <http> o
[16:10] <http> o
[16:10] <http> o
[16:10] <FloodBot2> http: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:11] <tiger> cydeweys: what about my programs
[16:11] <wooj> Is it normal for my computer to not actually reboot (POST, etc) when I select restart in Ubuntu?  Ubuntu seems to restart, but...
[16:11] <JPSman> is it possible to use fidsk in the live session user?
[16:11] <LjL> wooj: yes, it's a feature
[16:11] <tanveer> and i have ubuntu 8.10 and when i click on update, 9.04 dosent come up
[16:11] <ikonia> JPSman: sure is
[16:11] <wooj> LjL, okay ty.  I was paranoid :)
[16:11] <ikonia> !upgrade > tanveer
[16:11] <http> help me
[16:11] <mint3> anyone know a desktop news sticker, that would scroll at the top of the screen with rss feeds/ news ?
[16:11] <moxfalder> 9.04 in the way !
[16:11] <http> with jabber
[16:11] <sebsebseb> !ask |  http
[16:12] <mint3> i tried liferea, but u have to open it for it to work plus it doesnt tick at the top of the screen .
[16:12] <gpled> when should we see the option to upgrade to 9.04?
[16:12] <nativeangels> has anyone else had a problem with wine,where the mouse pointer dosnt work with the wine window ?
[16:12] <http> sebsebseb how configure to use jabber?
[16:12] <sebsebseb> http: with Jabber in which program?
[16:12] <http> jabber in pidgin
[16:12] <sebsebseb> http: jabber or  gmail?
[16:12] <sebsebseb> http: jabber or googletalk?
[16:12] <http> flavetius@jabber.org
[16:12] <wooj> Also, I had to compile a custom kernel, is there a way to get update manager to quit trying to update it? :)
[16:13] <sebsebseb> http: I think you just add it  into pidgin normalley,  and get some  server details and such from the jabber site or whatever
[16:13] <sebsebseb> http: you can also try #pidgin
[16:13] <moxfalder> can i remove firefox installed with desktop edition ?
[16:13] <LjL> http: congratulation, you just posted an address to a channel that's publicly logged on the web...
[16:13] <mint3> anyone ?
[16:13] <mint3> moxfalder, use synaptics
[16:13] <sebsebseb> LjL: heh heh yeah,  the spammers might pick up his email address
[16:13] <CydeWeys> tiger: Export the list of all programs you have installed and then reinstall them on your new machine.
[16:13] <http> no problem
[16:13] <sequethin> do I have to do anything special to upgrade my jaunty RC to plain-old-jaunty?
[16:13] <tanveer> ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso, is the 1 im looking for
[16:13] <http> I wait spammer
[16:13] <nativeangels> ive asked in winehq but not got anywhere
[16:13] <Ben90> why does my system always black out and go back to the login screen?
[16:13] <CydeWeys> tiger: And when backing up, make sure to get everything relevant, including /etc
[16:14] <http> it's my work wto want spammer
[16:14] <http> bye bye
[16:14] <mint3> sequethin, just make sure you are fully updated ( via update manager)
[16:14] <moxfalder> why ubuntu is so COOL ?
[16:14] <sequethin> mint3: but it's not going to be considered a distribution upgrade right mint3 ?
[16:14] <sebsebseb> moxfalder: ,because it's not Windows?
[16:14] <new> @moxfalder: Because it is LINUX!
[16:14] <Ben90> it only happens in low latency mode.
[16:14] <mint3> sequethin, do you have anything else left to be updated in your update manager?
[16:15] <gpled> sebsebseb: whats windows?
[16:15] <moxfalder> sebsebseb: true, true
[16:15] <tanveer> if i upgrade would i lose my files and the program i installed?
[16:15] <sequethin> mint3: nope it was just firefox this morning, that's it :)
[16:15] <v4vijayakumar> upgrade is not going through.. any way to do through p2p-ly ??
[16:15] <weather151> I'm thinking it might be best if you'd download a pre-release version the day before the release and just update it
[16:15] <sebsebseb> tanveer: no
[16:15] <_3rt41_> ehi can someone tell me why i can't install 9.04 via wubi?
[16:15] <_3rt41_> i got a strange error
[16:15] <sebsebseb> tanveer: might have some issues with  upgrading now though, since download servers are packed
[16:15] <mint3> sequethin,  then my dear, you are done. Type lsb_release -a
[16:15] <mint3> see what it says, sequethin .
[16:15] <sequethin> mint3: i did that, it says 9.04 i just wasn't sure if it would say RC or not
[16:15] <sebsebseb> tanveer: also if you want the new optional  Ext4 file system, you got to clean install really, and set up those partitions yourself
[16:16] <moxfalder> aha...i haved problem with flash plugin for firefox, can anybody tell my how do this right ?
[16:16] <mint3> sequethin, you are fine then. hit back and enjoy jaunty power !
[16:17] <sequethin> mint3: meanwhile i'm updating my ubuntu server at home :) i love that it even opened an additional ssh server on port 9004 just in case something goes wrong
[16:17] <TheData> so my notebook is going to run Jaunty (like my big tower computer already does)
[16:17] <gpled> moxfalder: think you just go to the flash site, and it asks you if you want to install
[16:17] <tymann> fffjjiuh
[16:17] <mint3> sequethin, very intelligent yes.
[16:17] <Ben90> does anyone here know why my system would just black out and restart at the login screen?
[16:17] <racecar56> i might go back to intrepid...
[16:17] <weather15> Flash plugin is in package manager
[16:17] <mint3> anyone know a desktop news sticker, that would scroll at the top of the screen with rss feeds/ news ?
[16:17] <cutout> Hi, am very exited to install jaunty but the problem that I have to much installed and configured apps/servers on my ubuntu 8.10, and I would rather to make a fresh install to use ext4 :D is there any way to backup/restore all installed stuff and data???
[16:17] <wrice_> _3rt41_: Could you pastebin the error message?
[16:17] <Cameron> !torrents
[16:17] <moxfalder> gpled: download .deb, install and nothing !
[16:17] <mint3> i tried liferea, but u have to open it for it to work plus it doesnt tick at the top of the screen .
[16:17] <pepperjack> moxfalder: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ?
[16:17] <sebsebseb> Ben90: old graphics card?
[16:17] <_3rt41_> WHY WUBI DOES NOT WORK?
[16:17] <racecar56> meh might as well try debian
[16:17] <JPSman> Under fdisk, I have an Extended partition (sda3 in my case) ID 5  that I can't load.  is this my live session?
[16:17] <jacksparrow> hey guys, when was jaunty released?
[16:17] <sebsebseb> Ben90: which version of Ubuntu?
[16:17] <gpled> moxfalder: iv never had to go out and get any thing
[16:17] <racecar56> !caps _3rt41_
[16:18] <mint3> jacksparrow, today, few hours ago.
[16:18] <racecar56> !caps | _3rt41_
[16:18] <moxfalder> pepperjack: tryied, not help !
[16:18] <Ben90> sebsebseb, it only happens when i'm in low latency mode
[16:18] <_3rt41_> yeah but you guys don't answer at all
[16:18] <Jimmymaniac> Now that i'm about to get jaunty, again i wonder: Is 64 bits ok already for the desktop? there used to be problems for wine, flash and other things, dunno now. Experiences with this?
[16:18] <Ben90> sebsebseb, i'm running 9.04
[16:18] <Anquietas7> hello, I have a small problem, can anyone help me please ?
[16:18] <stimpie> does someone know how to add a sip account to empathy?
[16:18] <racecar56> _3rt41_, anyway, tell me more, i dont do windows though...
[16:18] <sebsebseb> Jimmymaniac: first of all how much RAM do you have?
[16:18] <_3rt41_> why i get an error while installing with 9.04 with wubi
[16:18] <_3rt41_> ?
[16:18] <_3rt41_> same as reported on the forums
[16:18] <racecar56> _3rt41_, what error
[16:18] <dt3k> !torrents
[16:18] <mint3> what error do you get ?
[16:18] <_3rt41_> by another guy
[16:18] <_3rt41_> wait i will get the post
[16:19] <stimpie> Anquietas7, depends on the problem
[16:19] <Mr_Kaizer> _3rt41_: Check the release notes, I belive there was something about it there
[16:19] <mint3> anyone know a desktop news sticker, that would scroll at the top of the screen with rss feeds/ news ?i tried liferea, but u have to open it for it to work plus it doesnt tick at the top of the screen .
[16:19] <mint3> ticker*
[16:19] <_3rt41_> uhm
[16:19] <noqq> !update
[16:19] <racecar56> any way i can fix my gfx card on my laptop?
[16:19] <pepperjack> moxfalder: you basically drop the plugin in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/. i often just download firefox from the mozilla website extract it to my home folder as firefox/ and then just drop the plugin in firefox/plugins
[16:20] <Ben90> sebsebseb, it only happens whem i'm copying diles or doing something important.
[16:20] <knittl> hi! isn't notify-osd supposed to be transparent? or do i need to have compiz running for this?
[16:20] <v4vijayakumar> ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso is only 593 MB ?! :-/
[16:20] <_3rt41_> here it is
[16:20] <_3rt41_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1131901
[16:20] <_3rt41_> same error
[16:20] <albech> i have kept my ubuntu updated daily since 9.04 beta, does that mean i already have 9.04 final?
[16:20] <happosade> Can I see somewhere, how much bandwidth ubuntu relases are taking world wide in torrent-network?
[16:20] <Ben90> how do i find out what error i'm getting?
[16:20] <SwedeMike> albech: yes.
[16:20] <defrysk> albech, yes
[16:20] <albech> ty
[16:20] <Anquietas7> my problem is that I've installed the New Jaunty Jackalope  Desktop 64 Bit edition and I cannot load the Desktop Effects... it says that "Could not enable desktop effects"... I've launched compiz from the Terminal but it says that it cannot find XGL and something is Blacklisted... what should I do ? please help
[16:21] <_3rt41_> here's the error i get -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1131901
[16:21] <Ben90> the error is so bad that it boots me out my desktop then it wants me to log in again.
[16:21] <mint3> you using an ATI card, Anquietas7 ?
[16:21] <weather15> lot of bugs with 9.04?
[16:21] <leohartx> how do i perform check sums in linux ( i forgot)
[16:21] <Anquietas7> no, Intel Mobile Card
[16:21] <mint3> weather15,  so and so like any new releases.
[16:21] <sebsebseb> weather15: no
[16:21] <albech> in that case i can say 9.04 has been working flawless since beta on my VAIO notebook.. very good job
[16:22] <Ben90> how would i go back to 8.10?
[16:22] <pepperjack> Ben90: reinstall
[16:22] <racecar56> there goes my laptop again
[16:22] <Ben90> or is 9.04 finally stable now?
[16:22] <racecar56> it is
[16:22] <mint3> yeah i got jaunty both on my laptop and pc. it works marvellously well.
[16:22] <leonel> no torrent for  netbook remix ???
[16:22] <wrice_> leohartx: md5sum
[16:22] <racecar56> it was released TODAY
[16:22] <Ben90> ok.
[16:22] <dt3k> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent             <-------this is final right?  it says 4-20-09
[16:22] <kklimonda> Ben90: it was officially released
[16:22] <Huufarted> Anybody that knows the difference between desktop and netbook with 9.04?
[16:22] <dronix> :( 15kbs
[16:22] <racecar56> how do i fix my gfx card???
[16:22] <mint3> weather15,  the best proof of the pudding is in the tasting.
[16:22] <grawity> Ben90: 9.04 has been released, but users say it's still full of bugs :(
[16:22] <racecar56> how do i fix my gfx card????????
[16:22] <_3rt41_> any ubuntu pro to solve this? ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1131901
[16:22] <Jimmymaniac> sebsebseb: 2Gb + 1Gb swapfile
[16:23] <bdelin88> I am pretty familiar with ubuntu but I am facing a system-freeze problem that I cannot figure out what the problem is, can anyone help me figure this out, I could pastebin some logfiles if i need to
[16:23] <racecar56> ill go run a forkbomb
[16:23] <racecar56> jk
[16:23] <Ben90> i'll talk later.
[16:23] <_3rt41_> anyone at all? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1131901
[16:23] <dt3k> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent             <-------this is final right?  it says 4-20-09
[16:23] <weather15> Download time keeps going up up and up
[16:23] <Anquietas7> well ? some suggestions, ideeas ... ?...
[16:23] <SwedeMike> dt3k: yes.
[16:23] <Pici> dt3k: yes
[16:23] <dt3k> thx
[16:24] <Asad> weird... I am upgrading using the "alternate cd" and it still is downloading some packages from the internet - although I selected "NO" to network upgrades
[16:24] <racecar56> how2fix gfx?????
[16:24] <Jimmymaniac> dt3k: yep
[16:24] <Jeruvy> torrents are downloading very quickly, less than 10 minutes here.
[16:24] <weather15> WOW
[16:24] <TheData> torrents are super!
[16:24] <weather15> I will try torrent then thanks
[16:24] <_3rt41_> is there anybody able to solve this ? -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1131901
[16:24] <dt3k> torrent is way to go, over 1200 seeders on this AMD64 release
[16:24] <Huufarted> racecar56: how2fix is not a word.  Proper English, please.
[16:24] <dt3k> probably more seeders on the i386 release
[16:24] <leohartx> wrice_ : thanks
[16:24] <decipherstatic> how can you upgrade from 9.04 beta to the release?
[16:24] <SwedeMike> I am seeding all relases, I'm not even using all my upstream capacity
[16:24] <Huufarted> racecar56: and if you do not get an answer, you either need to PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION or nobody knows how to fix it
[16:25] <magicrobotmonkey> is it possible to upgrade from ext3 to ext4 after upgrading to jaunty without wiping discs?
[16:25] <XulOrezBus> anyone know where i can get that sweet login screen from 9.04 as a background?
[16:25] <_3rt41_> I am a total ubuntu noob, but this CRAP does not make me happy to switch to this system -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1131901
[16:25] <joaopinto> !language | _3rt41_
[16:25] <Anquietas7> well, can anyone help me or ?... what should I do ?
[16:25] <shivam> Ubuntu 8.10 is not detecting my bison web cam, can anyone help?
[16:25] <TheData> @SwedeMike: I am seeding all different kinds of linux distris since months.... ;-)
[16:25] <macvr> magicrobotmonkey: yes , but u might want to backup
[16:25] <_3rt41_> oww come on just give some help ->>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1131901
[16:25] <LjL> !repeat
[16:26] <weather15> Just upgrade packages in package manager
[16:26] <_3rt41_> how it is possible to get a D AMN error on wubi fresh install? i mean W T F http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1131901
[16:26] <pronoy_> hi : how to give a command root previliges in the beginning of the session ??
[16:26] <weather15> Where can I find 9.04 torrents?
[16:26] <wooj> I had to compile a custom Kernel, is there a way to get Update-Manager to quit trying to install the same kernel again?  Its the same version I believe.
[16:26] <Asad> I am upgrading using the "alternate cd" and it still is downloading some packages from the internet - although I selected "NO" to network upgrades ... ideas?
[16:26] <markrian> What's the quickest/easiest way to try out jaunty's new notifications?
[16:26]  * Ciros sits and upgrades
[16:27] <bdelin88> I am pretty familiar with ubuntu but I am facing a system-freeze problem that I cannot figure out what the problem is, can anyone help me figure this out, I could pastebin some logfiles if i need to
[16:27] <macvr> pronoy: what is the command ?
[16:27] <_3rt41_> FUCK YOU ALL
[16:27] <lepassive> Hi i was moving a file to a dir in a NTFS partition, the light went off, now i get Input/Output Error when doing any mv, rm on that directory any help?
[16:27] <bdelin88> anyone?
[16:27] <pepperjack> _3rt41_: that is a wubi problem.  im not sure if wubi is officially supported or not on this channel.  honestly i would just do a normal ubuntu install and dual boot if you must.
[16:28] <Jimmymaniac> !ask
[16:28] <bdelin88> I am pretty familiar with ubuntu but I am facing a system-freeze problem that I cannot figure out what the problem is, can anyone help me figure this out, I could pastebin some logfiles if i need to
[16:28] <pronoy_> macvr: rmmod pcspkr
[16:28] <Belding> !poop
[16:28] <LjL> !botabuse
[16:28] <Anquietas7> my problem is that I've installed the New Jaunty Jackalope  Desktop 64 Bit edition and I cannot load the Desktop Effects... it says that "Could not enable desktop effects"... I've launched compiz from the Terminal but it says that it cannot find XGL and something is Blacklisted... what should I do ? please help
[16:28] <macvr> pronoy: just add "sudo " infront
[16:29] <bdelin88> I am pretty familiar with ubuntu but I am facing a system-freeze problem that I cannot figure out what the problem is, can anyone help me figure this out, I could pastebin some logfiles if i need to
[16:29] <pronoy_> macvr: :D i think i know that much....the point is that the command will not run unless supplied with the password...and it doesnt ask for one
[16:29] <weather15> 9.04 Torrent 32 bit link?
[16:29] <macvr> pronoy: but is this command supposed to start during login?
[16:29] <Jimmymaniac> !ask | bdelin88
[16:29] <pepperjack> bdelin88: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log.  if you are using binary nvidia drivers it may be worthwhile to test using the nv driver instead. could though be any number of things
[16:29] <decipherstatic> I have 9.04 beta and have run apt-get update / upgrade and there is nothing showing up?
[16:29] <racecar56> ubuntu 9.04, graphics card not working right, xorg log: http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f687d5a1e xorg.conf: http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f43664787
[16:29] <mrwes> Anquietas7: what kind of video card/chip?
[16:29] <icqn> Anquietas7, what graphic do you have and what driver do you use?
[16:29] <daftykins> bdelin88, don't repeat so regularly please. can you describe your freezes in more detail?
[16:30] <bdelin88> pepperjack, i am using the open source ati drivers
[16:30] <pronoy_> macvr: if added to the sessions...i think it should work
[16:30] <The`Librarian> My issue is quite simple I hope, first timer at Linux, I want to know if it is possible to set the install to load my graphics card drivers before it starts the install so I can SEE what it is doing?
[16:30] <madrazr> Hello all, I have installed Jaunty and it ships with Python2.6 by default. I really want Python 2.5 by default
[16:30] <jEns|afk> i have a o2-UMTS-Stick: icon210 and the new ubuntu, does somone know how i can install the stick(modem)
[16:30] <madrazr> how do I do it?
[16:30] <Ciros> pronoy_:  you try the sudo -s ?
[16:30] <sancho21> Congrats to Ubuntu team and community for the great Jaunty release. Good job!!! I even have to wait 3 times using wget to download the iso.
[16:30] <pronoy_> Ciros: what does sudo -s do ..and no i haven't tried it
[16:30] <macvr> pronoy: have u tried adding to sessions?
[16:30] <pepperjack> bdelin88: pastebin maybe the xorg log file and dmeg as well
[16:30] <bdelin88> daftykins: the freezes occur usually when it's idle or not idle
[16:30] <weather15> 9.04 Torrent 32 bit link?
[16:31] <icqn> The`Librarian, it is so by default
[16:31] <Pici> !torrents > weather15
[16:31] <bdelin88> pepperjack: rgr, one sec, thanks
[16:31] <icqn> i think
[16:31] <pronoy_> macvr: pay attention bro...i need to supply it with a password after adding it to sessions....that's the whole issue
[16:31] <racecar56> here
[16:31] <racecar56> http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f1b37e8a4
[16:31] <Gnimsh> mornin
[16:31] <bdelin88> pepperjack: xorg.0.log?  it's empty
[16:31] <racecar56> dmesg
[16:32] <racecar56> ubuntu 9.04, graphics card not working right, xorg log: http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f687d5a1e xorg.conf: http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f43664787 dmesg: http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f1b37e8a4
[16:32] <macvr> pronoy: either u can remove the password prompt for al the commands ...
[16:32] <Gnimsh> I'm just wondering where I can find the human theme folder to edit the gtrk file to change the space between menu items (in apps, system, etc)
[16:32] <panaggio> what I have to do to "upgrade" from #jaunty beta to #jaunty stable?
[16:32] <v4vijayakumar> I am downloading "ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso" from corresponding torrent, can I upgrade from this..?!
[16:32] <Gnimsh> in hardy i was able to run "locate human" in terminal and find it, but that folder doesn't come up in jaunty
[16:32] <dergringo> how do I get rid of this crazy fglrx?
[16:32] <pepperjack> bdelin88: eh?  doublecheck the spelling and case make sure it didnt open a new file for you istead of the existing log
[16:32] <hbekel> racecar56: look at line 836+ of your dmesg paste
[16:33] <Gnimsh> v4vijayakumar, that will overwrite your current install
[16:33] <bdelin88> pepperjack: yea i think you're right, sry
[16:33] <Gnimsh> if you want to update do update-manager -d
[16:33] <panaggio> dergringo: how crazy?
[16:33] <jEns|afk> hello, i have a o2-UMTS-Stick: icon210 and an up-to-date ubuntu, does somone know how i can install the stick(modem)?
[16:33] <pronoy_> macvr: that doesn't solve the problem....you see the output remains so....after the command is executed it requires a password to execute....so after adding it to the sessions menu i need a way that it should automatically get one or i need to enter one
[16:33] <Pici> Gnimsh: You need to run sudo update-db before your run locate (it runs automagically ever day or so anyway)
[16:33] <manolo> Hello, what happend with the release of ubuntu 9? when will be out?
[16:33] <v4vijayakumar> Gnimsh: oh no..
[16:33] <pronoy_> manolo: it is out
[16:33] <drguildo> is there any way i can change the permissions for all dynamically mounted fat32 usb mass storage devices?
[16:33] <The`Librarian> icqn: Running a GeForce 4 MX440 GFX card, using a tv and the S-Video out port to actually use My pc... I start the Ubuntu installation and all I get is ablank screen... nada, nothing... hence the problem
[16:33] <manolo> where i can download it?
[16:33] <icqn> !topic | manolo
[16:33] <Gnimsh> Pici, command not found
[16:33] <sudaya> hello, i am having problem with my webacam in ubuntu
[16:33] <gpled> who was having trouble with wubi ?
[16:33] <pronoy_> manolo: read the topic of the channel
[16:33] <sudaya> any help plz
[16:34] <v4vijayakumar> Gnimsh: just thought of using p2p path to reduce http load
[16:34] <Pici> Gnimsh: Sorry, sudo updatedb
[16:34] <pronoy_> sudaya: just ask
[16:34] <dade`> now that 9.04 is out i can complain
[16:34] <dergringo> panaggio, it says version mismatch expecting x.org 7.4 found 7.1
[16:34] <Belding> haha
[16:34] <racecar56> hbekel, i still have a 180.44 script, should i install that one?
[16:34] <hbekel> racecar56: in case you have just upgraded form 180.44 to 180.51, have you unloaded the old nvidia module and inserted the new one?
[16:34] <dade`> vmmouse does not sync with host os using ubuntu 9.04 as guest
[16:34] <manolo> oh thanks you and please excuse me
[16:34] <bdelin88> pepperjack: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156585/ is the xorg log file
[16:34] <racecar56> hbekel, all i did was run the newer one
[16:34] <racecar56> hbekel, i guess not
[16:34] <Gnimsh> still gives same results
[16:34] <JPSman> how long will 9.04 be supported?
[16:34] <drguildo> this channel is borderline unusable
[16:34] <racecar56> JPSman, 18 monts
[16:34] <macvr> pronoy: add the command to /etc/rc.local
[16:34] <or4n> Hi, has anyone tested VMWare Workstation in 9.04?
[16:34] <sudaya> pronoy,lsusb shows Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0c45:613c Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[16:34] <racecar56> JPSman, 18 months
[16:34] <Pici> JPSman: 18 months
[16:34] <madrazr> can anyone please tell me how to make Python 2.5 default on 9.04?
[16:35] <Gnimsh> I'm wondering if maybe they replaced the folders with single xml files or something
[16:35] <hbekel> racecar56: you need to rmmod nvida, modprobe nvidia
[16:35] <weather15> Torrents slower for me
[16:35] <racecar56> hbekel, k
[16:35] <drguildo> too many people
[16:35] <pronoy_> sudaya: i meant ask the whole channel !! :D
[16:35] <gpled> drguildo:  :)
[16:35] <hbekel> racecar56: at least that will resolve that specific error
[16:35] <drguildo> are there any channels for more specific help?
[16:35] <kklimonda> or4n: yes
[16:35] <racecar56> hbekel, ill be back
[16:35] <drguildo> silly to ask
[16:35] <or4n> kklimonda: works without any problems?
[16:35] <macvr> pronoy_: add it without the sudo
[16:35] <gpled> drguildo: we should start one
[16:35] <kklimonda> or4n: most recent version (6.5.2) works flawlessly.
[16:35] <drguildo> question will scroll off the screen in 2 seconds
[16:36] <sudaya> having problem with web cam
[16:36] <Jimmymaniac> madrazr: my guess would be to install version 2.5 and see if it's supported by the alternates system, dunno
[16:36] <bahadunn> anyone have jaunty with ati graphics and get the tearing screen with fglrx?
[16:36] <drebes> hello there
[16:36] <macvr> sudaya: what model?
[16:36] <dade`> I see ppl helping me all around, i think i'll suffocate
[16:36] <or4n> kklimonda: Good to know... maybe I'll upgrade mine then :)
[16:36] <sudaya> Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0c45:613c Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[16:36] <pronoy_> macvr: i think it requires root previliges to run
[16:36] <madrazr> Jimmymaniac: I have installed 2.5
[16:36] <drebes> just made a fresh install of 9.04, but can't find the openssh-server package? where did it go?!
[16:36] <Asad> hey ... anyone know how to change "upgrade manager" mirror ?
[16:36] <sudaya> macvr: Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0c45:613c Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[16:36] <macvr> pronoy_: no need while adding to rc.local
[16:36] <panaggio> dergringo: have you tryied to update and upgrade yet?
[16:36] <drguildo> gpled: not just another one, i mean like #ubuntu-network, #ubuntu-storage etc.
[16:37] <gpled> drguildo: that would be a good idea
[16:37] <drguildo> gpled: then people with particular knowledge can hang out in specific ones and people who need to get help on that topic can go there and not get flooded off
[16:37] <macvr> pronoy_: edit the rc.local, add the command, but sudo is not required, the command will run during every boot as root
[16:37] <Jimmymaniac> madrazr: man update-alternatives and check if python is there (--list i think)
[16:37] <v4vijayakumar> can I download "ubuntu-9.04-alternate-amd64.iso" through torrent, and upgrade locally..?? anyone ??
[16:37] <biosed> hey lads got a problem sending large amount of emails "2.6.27-7-server #1 SMP Tue Nov 4 20:16:57 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[16:37] <sudaya> macvr: camstreame dont show device name
[16:37] <Asad> v4vijayakumar: yes....
[16:37] <Gnimsh> v4vijayakumar, do you have home on its own partition?
[16:37] <sipior> drguildo: you can always start your own, i suppose.
[16:37] <jtholmes> drebes, should be there    exec   apt-cache search openssh  see what it finds
[16:37] <pronoy_> macvr: hang on..i'll have to check the rc.local
[16:37] <dergringo> panaggio, I've been using jaunty for 3 weeks. Just decided to install the driver today
[16:37] <madrazr> Jimmymaniac: ah Ok cool! let me try
[16:38] <Asad> v4vijayakumar: though some packages need internet access.. I need 500mb from internet despite having the alternate cd
[16:38] <v4vijayakumar> Gnimsh: I have everything in one partition
[16:38] <Gnimsh> then afaik you'll you have to reformat that partition
[16:38] <gpled> drguildo: yah, then we could send people to a channel, where people can help them, in an area that they know best
[16:38] <Gnimsh> so if you back up your files, you can install via the CD
[16:38] <panaggio> dergringo: what driver? sorry if I lost some of your posts
[16:38] <macvr> sudaya: sorry pal.. i'm not sure of that model... but the present kernel2.27/28 has a lot of problems with cameras
[16:38] <Gnimsh> then put everything back
[16:38] <weather15> I'm thinking I might be beter of to run 8.10 for a couple of weeks
[16:38] <mint3> anyone know a desktop news sticker, that would scroll at the top of the screen with rss feeds/ news ?i tried liferea, but u have to open it for it to work plus it doesnt tick at the top of the screen .
[16:38] <Gnimsh> but you can't do the same upgrade as from the update manager
[16:38] <JPSman> "Scanning the mirror"  I knew I should have DVD installed :OP
[16:38] <drebes> jtholmes It finds openssh-client, but not -server.
[16:38] <drebes> weird.
[16:38] <Asad> v4vijayakumar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades#AlternateUpgrade
[16:38] <icqn> The`Librarian, well, i do not know, seems that you s-out put just not turned out by default, try vga?!
[16:38] <v4vijayakumar> Asad: thats fine, by then I will be on 9.04 :)
[16:39] <jtholmes> drebes, yes it was there a day or so ago as i installed it
[16:39] <Gnimsh> whoa cool
[16:39] <macvr> pronoy_: make sure u add it to the line before exit0
[16:39] <mariaisabel> j
[16:39] <xmrkite> hey, does anyone know of a good IM program that pops up messages when they come in? Similar to how AIM pops up a little notification near the clock in windows?
[16:39] <dergringo> panaggio, just downloaded and installed the binary ati driver from amd homepage because envy doesn't show a comapible driver anymore (it has in hardy and before)
[16:39] <mariaisabel> ola espero k estees bem
[16:39] <gpled> drguildo: right now, a "ubuntu 9.04 upgrade channel" would be good
[16:39] <panaggio> xmrkite: use pidgin with the proper plugin
[16:39] <Pici> !es | mariaisabel
[16:39] <pronoy_> macvr: i'll have to first make the whole thing....and then sym link it to the file rcS.c
[16:40] <Pici> !ot
[16:40] <gpled> drguildo: so much stuff flying by, i cant even read
[16:40] <KingKimi> Hi . i am doing manual install...... where must i place the newly created Ext3 ?? beginning or AT the end ??? help me ..
[16:40] <weather15> There really needs to be 9.04 channel
[16:40] <KingKimi> !jaunty > KingKimi
[16:40] <Prez00> isn't this now a 9.04 channel?  the channel is for current version...
[16:40] <mariaisabel> isabel_96@wapa.com
[16:40] <panaggio> dergringo: use ati opensource driver. I've used fglrx for a long time, and I can say that the opensource driver is now as good as the closed source alternative
[16:41] <xmrkite> i got pidgen going, but which plugin do i use for that?
[16:41] <Pici> Prez00: Yes.
[16:41] <bdelin88> pepperjack: I have system log files paste-binned as well if you need to look at those
[16:41] <pronoy_> macvr: man ubuntu uses 2 for graphical boot right ?
[16:41] <yowshi> weee upgrade day. maybe this time they will fix some of the sound issues
[16:41] <KingKimi> i am doing manual install..... where must i place the ext3 ?? in the beggning or  at the end ?? help mne quickly plzzzz.... and is 1700 mb of swap enough ?? ( i have 1 gb ram)
[16:41] <panaggio> xmrkite: guifications or something like it
[16:41] <gpled> their would need to be a way, would could tie the channels together
[16:41] <xmrkite> k
[16:41] <macvr> pronoy_: ? not sure...
[16:41] <xmrkite> tx Panaggie
[16:41] <defrysk> xmrkite, the notification plugin probably
[16:42] <panaggio> xmrkite: my pidgin is translated to portuguese, so I don't know the original name
[16:42] <JPSman> almost about to run Jaunty for the first time....I'll catch you guys on the flip side :OD
[16:42] <pronoy_> macvr: u see i'll need to create a whole rc.local...and sym link it with rc2.c and am not sure it'll work or not
[16:42] <dergringo> panaggio, does it perform as good as proprietary driver?
[16:42] <xmrkite> is it included with Pidgen, or is that something i have to go find and install
[16:42] <v4vijayakumar> some problem again,  there is no server / desktop alternate iso torrents...
[16:42] <pronoy_> macvr: i think if i added the script to bash then will it work
[16:42] <gpled> weather15: can you join #ubuntu-helpdesk?
[16:43] <macvr> pronoy_: dont u have rc.local by default?
[16:43] <KingKimi> PLZ HELP ME :( where must i place the ext3 ?? in the beggning or  at the end ?? help mne quickly plzzzz.... and is 1700 mb of swap
[16:43] <pronoy_> macvr: in ubuntu i don't think it exists
[16:43] <gpled> drguildo: can you join #ubuntu-helpdesk
[16:43] <drguildo> gpled: hehehe, yeah
[16:43] <drguildo> gpled: people will still probably just come here though
[16:43] <manpoole> so what time did it come out?
[16:43] <manpoole> and what is the fastest way to download it?
[16:43] <wrice_> v4vijayakumar: Alternate installers: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate
[16:43] <panaggio> dergringo: in general, yes. there's some really little problems. and it's better in some cases
[16:43] <macvr> pronoy_: i'm not sure how i have it!
[16:43] <defrysk> xmrkite, get pidgin-plugin-pack , it has guifications included
[16:43] <Pici> gpled: We are not splitting the channels at this time, please do not redirect people to unofficial channels.
[16:43] <drguildo> gpled: it's like trying to read a book by doing cat war_and_peace.txt
[16:43] <Lint01> panaggio, open source driver has no 3D
[16:43] <jtholmes> manpoole about 9A EST
[16:43] <xmrkite> great - tx
[16:43] <drebes> just run update-manager, openssh-server is now found. :)
[16:43] <KingKimi> PLZ HELP ME :( where must i place the ext3 ?? in the beggning or  at the end ?? help mne quickly plzzzz.... and is 1700 mb of swap
[16:43] <KingKimi> i am doing manual install
[16:43] <Lint01> I've lost both sound and 3D acceleration after upgrade, and it's still not fixed in Release. What kind of problem is this?
[16:44] <pronoy_> macvr: i'll have to check..hang on...once again :)
[16:44] <mindframe-> is the 9.04 alternate installer not available yet?
[16:44] <Pici> KingKimi: Wherever you want.
[16:44] <panaggio> Lint01: well, I have compiz here, and I heve the cube, and a lot more.
[16:44] <bdelin88> pepperjack: you still there man?
[16:44] <gpled> Pici:  just trying to move the topic, to talk about it
[16:44] <KingKimi> Pici will it affect my windows in C ??
[16:44] <manpoole> cool which bt / mirror is the fastest currently?
[16:44] <kklimonda> mindframe-: no - it's already there
[16:44] <pepperjack> bdelin88: yeah. im at work sorry. nothing in that log file.
[16:44] <pepperjack> bdelin88: no problems anyway
[16:44] <Lint01> panaggio, which card do you have?
[16:45] <KingKimi> Pici: i did install manual to F drive ,,,,  and xp is in C ..... if i place it in beginning or end ? will it affect xp ?
[16:45] <KingKimi> Pici: ?
[16:45] <Pici> gpled: #ubuntu-offtopic is for other, non support subjects.
[16:45] <Pici> KingKimi: Only if you touch that partition.
[16:45] <bdelin88> pepperjack: oh ok man, sry, didn't know you were still on :)
[16:45] <panaggio> Lint01: Radeon Xpress 200M
[16:45] <lantay77> how ocme the torrent page is only ubuntu 8.10 and 8.04?
[16:45] <gpled> Pici: thank
[16:45] <sudaya> macvr: my kernel version is 2.6.27-11-generic
[16:45] <lantay77> where are the 9.04 torrents?
[16:45] <Pici> !torrents > lantay77
[16:45] <KingKimi> !torrents > lantay77
[16:45] <bdelin88> pepperjack: do you have time to look at this system log?  I am *trying* to look through it, but I don't understand much, looking for anything odd like errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156589/
[16:45] <KingKimi> oopps ! sorry pici !
[16:45] <pronoy_> macvr: i have it alright..now do i write a script and then add it to it or write the whole command there ?
[16:45] <Natanael_L> Ouch, I don't have enough free space on / (/home is on a seperate partition) - so I can't upgrade my laptop!
[16:45] <Natanael_L> Argh!
[16:46] <KingKimi> Pici: i am instlling ubuntu to F drive..... and windows is in C drive...... so whether it will affect my xp or not ?
[16:46] <macvr> sudaya: lot of cams have problem in this kernel u need to wait for kernel 2.6.29...
[16:46] <KingKimi> Pici: i mean, the begginning or the end
[16:46] <defrysk> Natanael_L, sudo apt-get clean and check again
[16:46] <Natanael_L> I have no interest in wiping stuff there first
[16:46] <Natanael_L> defrysk: thanks, will do
[16:46] <bdelin88> pepperjack: I found this "AMI BIOS detected: BIOS may corrupt low RAM, working it around." on line 5669
[16:46] <Pici> KingKimi: No, it should not.
[16:46] <coin> does some  Chinese people here ?
[16:46] <Pici> !zh | coin
[16:46] <sudaya> macvr: thankx , when it will be released
[16:46] <Lint01> how can I see my current videodriver?
[16:46] <macvr> pronoy_: just add the command u want to execute before the line exit0... what does the command do by the way?
[16:47] <Natanael_L> defrysk: no output?
[16:47] <KingKimi> Pici:  thanks very much.. !
[16:47] <weather15> Downloads are getting slower Slower and Slower
[16:47] <macvr> sudaya: not sure... just have to wait...
[16:47] <defrysk> Lint01, apt-cache policy <yourdriverpackage>
[16:47] <KingKimi>  Pici and i gave swap as 1700 .. i have 1G ram./. so is it ok ?
[16:47] <defrysk> Natanael_L, then its done ;)
[16:47] <Pici> KingKimi: Thats fine.
[16:47] <panaggio> Lint01: lspci | grep VGA
[16:47] <Natanael_L> That fast?
[16:47] <pronoy_> macvr: you experience the irritating pc beep when you press backspace in any textfield ? it removes that
[16:47] <bdelin88> pepperjack: also found this on line 5490: "Apr 22 01:51:26 dansdesktop pulseaudio[5412]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-x11-xsmp" (argument: ""): initialization failed."
[16:47] <Natanael_L> Lolzorz. Doubt 2 GB was cleaned that fast, even on Linux
[16:48] <defrysk> Natanael_L, looks like it, see how much more space you have now
[16:48] <macvr> pronoy_: oh... just add the command, no need to sudo it...
[16:48] <KingKimi> Pici: THANKS !! .. meet you in this channel from "real" ubuntu ;-)
[16:48] <bdelin88> Line 5486 found this: "Apr 22 01:51:13 dansdesktop x-session-manager[5343]: WARNING: Unable to find provider 'gnome-wm' of required component 'windowmanager'  "
[16:48] <Natanael_L> I've got 8 GB for /, thought it was enough when installing
[16:48] <KingKimi> Pici:  Bye !
[16:48] <manolo> Im a web developer, i develope since  9 years ago on windows and im trying to migrate to ubuntu, there is on windows, on notepad++ a feature that i absolute need. when im over a word, all the words like that get shadow, you can see an example here: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/351031/sombrea.png
[16:48] <Natanael_L> Yes, I'm a (semi-)noob
[16:48] <AslanMan> Hello .. please help me out here .. I have a problem with my kernel (using ubuntu 9.04 and latest kernel (28.11 generic)), it doesn't let me use mouse and keyboard. So I want to try installing an older version but I can't even login to recovery mode. So I am now in through Ubuntu LiveCD and I have access to the installed file system HD ..
[16:49] <yowshi> manolo:  there is a highlight all function in gedit i think
[16:49] <Lint01> panaggio, there's no driver info in lspci output
[16:49] <yowshi> manolo: when you use the search
[16:49] <manolo> i cant found it
[16:49] <defrysk> Natanael_L, how much space has your / ?
[16:49] <AslanMan> HOw can I using shell mount that HD to be able to use the file system as if I am in?
[16:49] <AslanMan> Hello .. please help me out here .. I have a problem with my kernel (using ubuntu 9.04 and latest kernel (28.11 generic)), it doesn't let me use mouse and keyboard. So I want to try installing an older version but I can't even login to recovery mode. So I am now in through Ubuntu LiveCD and I have access to the installed file system HD ..
[16:49] <AslanMan> HOw can I using shell mount that HD to be able to use the file system as if I am in?
[16:49] <FloodBot2> AslanMan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:49] <hbekel> manolo: emacs highlights searches in a simmilar manner
[16:49] <manolo> yowshi: yeah but in notepad is without search just when im over any word.
[16:49] <Natanael_L> AslanMan: I'm not really sure, but you could download an older kernel and put it in /boot I think, then update /boot/grub/menu.list manually
[16:49] <oshua86_> ok, so someone told me to install the kubuntu package so i could flip between gnome and kde, i did install but its not showing when i log off the option for kde
[16:49] <panaggio> Lint01: sorry, I've read "video card"
[16:49] <oshua86_> anything else i need to install?
[16:50] <pronoy_> macvr: it doesn't have a exit0 line
[16:50] <duaneb> hi people
[16:50] <duaneb> could i have help with wine?
[16:50] <yowshi> oh
[16:50] <Natanael_L> oshua86_: You have to switch from login screen - options are somewhere
[16:50] <duaneb> and WoW?
[16:50] <AslanMan> Natanael_L: Just download and put it there?
[16:50] <coin> thank you
[16:50] <macvr> pronoy_: pastebin the /etc/rc.local file
[16:50] <Natanael_L> AslanMan: Don't know.
[16:50] <duaneb> After the intro video plays, it dies with a memory access error.
[16:50] <Natanael_L> defrysk: Checking
[16:50] <oshua86_> Natanael_L, right like log off the click in optiosn right?
[16:51] <jtholmes> manolo, couldnt read it real well but i only use vim it will do things like that
[16:51] <panaggio> Lint01: maybe 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver' will show you what's the driver xorg is going to use
[16:51] <bdelin88> pepperjack: this seems to be reoccurring throughout the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156593/
[16:51] <Skiessi> did ubuntu 9.04 get released?
[16:51] <Natanael_L> defrysk: 1.6 GB
[16:51] <racecar56> yes
[16:51] <commodore256> yeah
[16:51] <jtholmes> manolo, but vim has a steep learning curve
[16:51] <uni4dfx> w000! party time
[16:51] <Skiessi> \o/
[16:51] <racecar56> me like vim
[16:51] <Pici> !ot
[16:51] <uni4dfx> i'm so getting wasted today
[16:51] <defrysk> Natanael_L, that is not much
[16:51] <Skiessi> yeah
[16:51] <hbekel> racecar56: success?
[16:51] <Natanael_L> Look for updates via GUI and click upgrade
[16:51] <racecar56> hbekel, well, i decided aww heck it's just a driver, it would be better to have it working anyway, cause thats all that matters
[16:51] <jtholmes> racecar56, i like it to
[16:52] <racecar56> hbekel, im sticking with 180.44
[16:52] <archman> Will my boot setting remain the same if I upgrade to Jaunty (turned off wome services on boot)
[16:52] <racecar56> hbekel, but still.... no 3D
[16:52] <Pici> This is still a *support* channel, please take the chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-release-party
[16:52] <defrysk> Natanael_L, you could try upgrading in sections and after each bit sudo apt-get clean
[16:52] <pronoy_> macvr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156596/
[16:52] <Lint01> panaggio, my xorg.conf contains only entries like 'Configured Video Device', etc
[16:52] <racecar56> hbekel, oops im wrong, i DO have 3D
[16:52] <racecar56> hbekel, problem solved
[16:52] <funkyHat> agh :(. Firefox is crashing every time it starts, and it's not asking if I want to reload tabs because of the crash. Anyone know how to clear remembered tabs/session?
[16:52] <Natanael_L> defrysk: Any other quick ways to lose 400 MB? Can I resize / live? I know it's probably unlikely though...
[16:52] <hbekel> racecar56: no, problem evaded
[16:53] <weather15> If anyone is looking for wine help Server: irc.freenode.net
[16:53] <weather15>     Port: 6667
[16:53] <weather15>     Channel: #winehq
[16:53] <racecar56> hbekel, all i have to do is remember do not upgrade nvidia driveres
[16:53] <Natanael_L> defrysk: Sections?
[16:53] <Pici> weather15: This is freenode.
[16:53] <defrysk> Natanael_L, you can resize with an ubuntu jaunty livecd
[16:53] <mphill> Pici: good point
[16:53] <macvr> pronoy_: u r looking at the wrong file!!! i said /etc/rc.local
[16:53] <Natanael_L> fglrx have no working version for 9.04! :(
[16:53] <Natanael_L> I've got no live-cd here
[16:54] <pronoy_> macvr: OH man !! so sorry !!! hang on
[16:54] <LeChacal> hello, i am trying to sort out my partition and under fdisk I see a partition that I don't recognize. I have tried mounting it but mount wants a file system type and have tried what i thought it is with no luck. Can someone help me figure out what this partition is and how to mount it to see what is on it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/156598/
[16:54] <jtholmes> defrysk, resize a partition with manual install yes
[16:54] <Natanael_L> Hmm..... UNetbootin?
[16:54] <funkyHat> Natanael_L: if your card is R500 or older there is now full 3D support in the open source ATI drivers, so you don't need fglrx
[16:54] <Natanael_L> Ati 1200 xpress mobile whatever
[16:54] <lianimator> how do I upgrade pidgin from 2.5.2 to 2.5.5 on intrepid?
[16:55] <Type3Singularity> Can someone with a clean Jaunty install do a 'df -h' and tell me how much space it uses?
[16:55] <hbekel> racecar56: all you would have to do is to actually LOAD the updated module before trying to use it
[16:55] <Lint01> funkyHat, and how can enable it? I have RV515 card
[16:55] <macvr> Natanael_L: what is the ATI card u are using?
[16:55] <racecar56> lianimator, getdeb.net
[16:55] <Natanael_L> I know that the ATI control panel have shwon up now after an update earlier
[16:55] <sipior> LeChacal: looks like an extended partition, judging from the start and end cylinder values.
[16:55] <duaneb> When I upgraded to 8.10 from 8.04, the sound stopped working
[16:55] <pronoy_> macvr: yeah i have alright...i'll add it
[16:55] <Natanael_L> macvr: 1200 express mobile something
[16:55] <duaneb> under pavucontrol, the output device just disappeared.
[16:55] <macvr> pronoy_: sure the end is exit0
[16:55] <defrysk> Natanael_L, about sections , first for example upgrade gnome, then clean, then sudo apt-get upgrade , then clean, en then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (for example)
[16:55] <AslanMan> Guys, how can I mount ubuntu file system that reside on another HD logged in in another system on the same box but different HD inorder to access the other file system using shell as if I am actually logged in there?
[16:56] <Lint01> so can anyone here tell me how to know the videodriver which is currently in use?
[16:56] <Natanael_L> defrysk: Some other day. This library is closing soon
[16:56] <NejinOniwa> nect
[16:56] <defrysk> k
[16:56] <racecar56> hbekel, so do sudo rmmod nvidia, then execute nvidia 180.51 setup, then tell it to auto configure xorg.conf and then sudo modprobe nvidia, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start?
[16:56] <funkyHat> Lint01: if you installed ubuntu from the CD it will already be enabled, if you upgraded, try moving your /etc/X11/xorg.conf so it isn't read ( sudo mv /etc/X11/{xorg.conf,xorg.conf.old} )
[16:56] <RickX> anyone know why sysinfo doesn't appear in the Debian menu?
[16:56] <sipior> LeChacal: and the fact that the remaining three partitions begin at sda5...
[16:56] <pepperjack> Lint01: lsmod lists all modules loaded
[16:56] <panaggio> Lint01: there's no "Devide" Section?
[16:56] <macvr> Natanael_L: i have 1400 and i'm using the with th ati driver ,, and everything works fine.. give it a try
[16:56] <stone1343> i have a somewhat-unrelated question, does the overall 'net slow down noticeably days like today?
[16:57] <Rolcol> is the main server down?
[16:57] <AslanMan> Guys, how can I mount ubuntu file system that reside on another HD logged in in another system on the same box but different HD inorder to access the other file system using shell as if I am actually logged in there?
[16:57] <Lint01> panaggio, there's only 1 device: "Configured video device"
[16:57] <Natanael_L> What happens if I just upgrade? That driver will get deactivated - but which will be used instead?
[16:57] <hbekel> racecar56: you just have to unload the currently loaded module before restarting X after having installed the new module
[16:57] <Steffanx> Upgrading too 9.04.. didn't go very well for me :(
[16:57] <LeChacal> sipior: that is what it looked like, but which partition is it extending off of? i am trying to figure out which partition i need so i can get ride of XP and put another version\disto of linux in its place.
[16:57] <racecar56> hbekel, oh
[16:57] <racecar56> ill try that
[16:57] <hbekel> racecar56: wether you do that before or after running setup is irrelevant
[16:57] <mackk431> aslanman did you check the grub files?
[16:57] <Steffanx> now ubuntu hangs at startup (afther login) :(
[16:57] <panaggio> Lint01: so you may reinstall you video driver
[16:58] <racecar56> hbekel, k
[16:58] <racecar56> hbekel, take 2
[16:58] <LeChacal> sipior: reword which partition should i delete to get ride of windows xp but leave ubuntu and vista?
[16:58] <uni4dfx> stone1343: http://www.internettrafficreport.com/
[16:58] <sipior> LeChacal: looks like sda1, then.
[16:58] <AslanMan> mackk431: why?
[16:59] <AslanMan> mackk431: what for?
[16:59] <stone1343> uni4dfx: interesting, thanks
[16:59] <mackk431> cause you asked about boot problems
[16:59] <xcdfgkjhgcv> Should I install an lpia kernel on my Atom Netbook? Does Ubuntu include an lpia kernel in the Jaunty repos?
[16:59] <panaggio> Lint01: do you want to test the open source driver?
[16:59] <uni4dfx> stone1343: i don't really see a trend
[17:00] <mackk431> grub organizes the boot of ubuntu
[17:00] <bdelin88> pepperjack: still there dude
[17:00] <LeChacal> sipior: ok thank you, i am going into vista and see what it says, then delete it
[17:00] <scott9876> can someone help a newbie
[17:00] <AslanMan> mackk431: oh sorry yes .. but I guess I'll know how to selve it better if I get my second question answered
[17:00] <ubuntistas> system testing doesn't open
[17:00] <Lint01> panaggio, I have module called 'radeon'. is it that 'open-source driver'?
[17:00] <scott9876> I am trying to go from Hardy to Jackalope (skipping Ibex)
[17:01] <scott9876> because it's buggy on my dell e1505
[17:01] <pronoy_> macvr: does the command in rc.local work on bootup or during starting of the display manager
[17:01] <pronoy_>  ?
[17:01] <panaggio> Lint01: nops. the ati driver is the opensource one
[17:01] <stone1343> uni4dfx: yeah, not yet
[17:01] <macvr> pronoy_: boot
[17:01] <racecar56> hbekel, bah humbug, ill just stuck with 180.44
[17:01] <EagleScreen> scott9876: it is supported
[17:01] <pronoy_> macvr: so i'll have to reboot...hmm.....ok..meet you in a sec
[17:01] <panaggio> Lint01: purge the other drivers that may be installed (radeon, fglrx) and install (or reinstall) ati driver
[17:01] <Natanael_L> bye
[17:01] <TheData> wow 1708 users...
[17:01] <uni4dfx> stone1343: the problem is that canonical's server can't really handle enough traffic to make a difference, but if everyone used torrents i suspect we would notice it
[17:02] <hbekel> racecar56: if you're to stupid to do that, don't ask
[17:02] <dekkong> if I would like to stream media that uses windows media player. is it possible to do this with somekind of player in ubuntu?
[17:02] <TheData> yes use torrents
[17:02] <melkart> ubuntu just shipped with broken translations. what can i do to prevent this from happening again the next release?
[17:02] <racecar56> hbekel, it dosen't work
[17:02] <eseven73> Funny, that there's a Firefox update right on the same day Jaunty arrives, bad time to update it though :/
[17:02] <stone1343> uni4dfx: i'm gonna check later in the day... thanks again
[17:02] <EagleScreen> scott9876: look https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04
[17:02] <ubuntistas> system testing doesn't open
[17:02] <uni4dfx> TheData: can't really use torrents for upgrading (and no i'm not gonna try to break something with apt-p2p)
[17:03] <racecar56> hbekel, i don't really care about the version much... it's better to have an older working than a newer not-working
[17:03] <the_dark_warrio> It seems the torrent page for jaunty is not updated
[17:03] <Shadow_Sam> hi all... i'm on windows as host using virtual box with ubuntu 8.1. I'm trying to update softwares like firefox and apt-get as synaptic list a series of index not found. where I found a respository list to 8.1?
[17:03] <the_dark_warrio> what is the torrent link?
[17:03] <hbekel> racecar56: whatever then
[17:03] <Type3Singularity> melkart: Download a alpha/beta/release candidate and report it on the bug system (preferably before the RC since by then its often to late)
[17:03] <Pici> !torrents > the_dark_warrio
[17:03] <racecar56> Shadow_Sam, im reversed
[17:03] <jtholmes> eseven73, they could not get it into the release so it is an upgrade today
[17:03] <Hero-> hi is 8.04 64 bit?
[17:03] <eseven73> ah
[17:03] <CydeWeys> Who's upgrading the largest concurrent number of computers to Ubuntu Jaunty right now?  I'm only doing 2.
[17:03] <racecar56> Hero-, it depends
[17:03] <CydeWeys> Virtual machines don't count!
[17:03] <uni4dfx> Hero-: all of them come in a 64bit version
[17:03] <eseven73> makes sense, jtholmes  :)
[17:03] <Hero-> racecar56: on what?
[17:04] <Shadow_Sam> racecar56: you are on ubuntu and windows cannot update?
[17:04] <Hero-> oh
[17:04] <racecar56> Hero-, what type you use
[17:04] <racecar56> Shadow_Sam, dingding
[17:04] <melkart> Type3Singularity: you mean, i should do this again, every release?
[17:04] <lanoxx> !launchpad
[17:04] <Hero-> I installed/dl:ed the desktop version, it didn't ask about 64bit version
[17:04] <racecar56> Shadow_Sam, exactlu
[17:04] <racecar56> Shadow_Sam, exactly
[17:04] <lanoxx> is launchpad down?
[17:04] <Hero-> and uname -a dowesnt show almost anything
[17:04] <Pici> lanoxx: Its experiencing some issues now.
[17:04] <racecar56> Hero-, if you want 64bit then its easy
[17:04] <Hero-> type?
[17:04] <jtholmes> eseven73, they stopp all updates to the candidates on either the 21st or 22nd and thus there are a few upgrades, i counted 5 this AM
[17:04] <racecar56> Hero-, www.releases.ubuntu.com
[17:04] <uni4dfx> Hero-: uname -m should show what u need
[17:05] <Shadow_Sam> racecar56: I just need to find (I think) the source list from ubuntu 8.10...
[17:05] <Hero-> uni: i686
[17:05] <pronoy> macvr: worked like a charm :) thanks
[17:05] <uni4dfx> Hero: then you're using the 32bit version
[17:05] <ubuntistas> the theme sucks and the system testing doesn't open
[17:05] <macvr> pronoy: np...
[17:05] <pronoy> macvr: now i need help with the usplash any ideas ?
[17:05] <Hero-> racecar: can one upgrade afterwards
[17:05] <Hero-> ack
[17:05] <Hero-> 0r
[17:05] <ejk> Anybody here from Canonical?
[17:05] <lanoxx> Pici, i see that, is it because of the release?
[17:05] <macvr> pronoy: whats the prob?
[17:06] <lanoxx> or some unrelated problem
[17:06] <Type3Singularity> melkart: Chances of the same thing breaking again isn't to great, but you can find other bugs in things you use, the main thing would be to report it now
[17:06] <harisund> I am interested in trying out 9.04 in VirtualBox 2.2 on Windows host (all 32 bit) .. anything I should know ahead of time?
[17:06] <Pici> lanoxx: I'm not sure, sorry.
[17:06] <ocv> ubuntu sucks
[17:06] <uni4dfx> Hero-: you wanna upgrade from 32 to 64bit?
[17:06] <dekkong> if I would like to stream media that uses windows media player. is it possible to do this with somekind of player in ubuntu?
[17:06] <pronoy> macvr: i tried installing a new one...doesn't work..tried reverting to a new one..doesn't work
[17:06] <the_dark_warrio> torrents links aren't working... maybe the server is too busy?
[17:06] <yrlnry> Hi.  My desk machine is Ubuntu 8.04.   I just noticed that my laptop offered me the chance to upgrade to 9.04.  Why hasn't my desktop machine asked me if I want to upgrade to 8.10?
[17:06] <Type3Singularity> harisund, Enable the new 3d acceleration in 2.2 for compiz fun :)
[17:06] <Hero-> uni/racecar: I'm trying to donwload the intel c compiler and not sure which version to grab
[17:07] <dooner> yrlnry, Difference between LTS and non LTS versions
[17:07] <commander_> is every1 enjoying 9.04
[17:07] <weather15> Longer Support
[17:07] <ubuntistas> the system testing doesn't open
[17:07] <pronoy> dooner: lts : long time support
[17:07] <ubuntistas> any clue?
[17:07] <uni4dfx> Hero-: any x86 version will do i suppose
[17:07] <pronoy> dooner: long term support
[17:07] <harisund> Type3Singularity: That's the next thing I wanted to ask ... are there any special openGL drivers I need to download? Earlier, it used to be "Software renderer" on VirtualBox but when I tried VirtualBox2.2 with Ubuntu 8.10, the renderer was some "chromium"
[17:07] <yrlnry> Oh, so the desktop machine will suggest an upgrade to 8.10 eventually?
[17:07] <racecar56> yeah, me liking 9.04 as long as nvidia dosent screw me up
[17:07] <Pici> yrlnry: No, You'll have to change your options to have it suggest non-LTS releases.
[17:08] <Pici> yrlnry: Otherwise it won't offer anything until 10.04 or so.
[17:08] <commander_> i have intel graphics x3100.
[17:08] <Hero-> Product for IA-32/Intel(R) 64, Product for IA-32, Product for Intel(R) 64 or Product for IA-64
[17:08] <macvr> pronoy: u need to install the startup manager ... once that is installed , u can change back to the old usplash
[17:08] <sidewalk> can i dist-upgrade my Ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 using the ubuntu iso, if for example mounting the iso?
[17:08] <manpoole> should i install the new iso if i already have the rc?
[17:08] <dooner> pronoy,  sorry wasn't being clear. The reason why yrlnry wasn't getting the update was due to one being LTS and one not.. :)
[17:08] <commander_> try it w/Mac4Lin theme
[17:08] <pronoy> macvr: did that..no success
[17:08] <minimec> manpoole: no
[17:08] <dalton2345> when why jaunty available?
[17:08] <jtholmes> sidewalk yes
[17:08] <yrlnry> pici, dooner, thanks very much.  I will look into the details.
[17:08] <commander_> today
[17:09] <Hero-> is there an easy way to upgrade to 64 bit version?
[17:09] <pronoy> dooner: OH i thought you were asking :D haha
[17:09] <sidewalk> jtholmes: how? :-)
[17:09] <minimec> manpoole: you can also update an rc, if you want
[17:09] <dalton2345> yes how many hrs ago?
[17:09] <uni4dfx> Hero-: not really
[17:09] <Type3Singularity> harisund: I think you need to install the VirtualBox guest addons
[17:09] <macvr> pronoy: dont u get the option in the manager for the old usplash?
[17:09] <dooner> pronoy, hehe.  Yeah I realized that. hence the clarification to my answer .. .
[17:09] <dalton2345> i was waiting all nite last nite
[17:09] <commander_> only if your pc have a 64 bit
[17:09] <Shadow_Sam> anyone know where I find /etc/apt/sources.list updated?
[17:09] <harisund> Type3Singularity: I did .. that's all I need to do, right?
[17:09] <manpoole> think i already have
[17:09] <Marfi> Can't wait to start sharing!  =). Noticed the release when running an update
[17:09] <stpere> where can I get the md5sum of the release?
[17:09] <BoltClock> when will update manager notify me of 9.04? it still says 8.10
[17:09] <Type3Singularity> harisund: afaik that should be it
[17:09] <stpere> the md5sum page on the site is outdated
[17:09] <jtholmes> sidewalk, this shows u how http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[17:09] <Hero-> ok hmm
[17:09] <harisund> Also, I recall getting a desktop with server mode installation was by doing apt-get install ubuntu-desktop .. what's the suggested way now? (server installation, need desktop)
[17:09] <Type3Singularity> BoltClock: try an 'apt-get update'
[17:10] <pronoy> macvr: yeah..i did...but no success ...i think i'll need to do it via the terminal.......what governs the usplash ? what file i mean >
[17:10] <harisund> Thanks Type3Singularity :) Will check it out
[17:10] <Type3Singularity> nps
[17:10] <mogul218_> so is #ubuntu+1 shut down for good?
[17:10] <ejk> Canonical needs to add the 9.04 links to the BitTorrent page
[17:10] <Pici> BoltClock: What release are you running now?
[17:10] <ubuntistas> system testing doesn't open
[17:10] <BoltClock> Pici: 8.04
[17:10] <frostburn> mogul218, no
[17:10] <defrysk> mogul218, there is always an ubuntu +1
[17:10] <BoltClock> Pici: or can i only get to 8.10 first?
[17:10] <Pici> BoltClock: Then you need to upgrade to 8.10 before you can go to 9.04
[17:10] <Huufarted> Anybody able to tell me the differences between Netbook and Desktop 9.04?  I can't see any differences on ubuntu.com
[17:10] <macvr> pronoy: not sure, i reverted by using the manager
[17:10] <stone1343> does anyone know, if I installed jaunty beta and have already done update-manager -d updates today, am I already at Final?
[17:10] <ubuntistas> any clue?
[17:10] <uni4dfx> ejk: canonical did add the 9.04 torrent links
[17:10] <Pici> mogul218_: The channel is closed until Karmic development gets started.
[17:11] <Type3Singularity> stone1343: Yes, the final was the release 3days ago from the 20th
[17:11] <pronoy> macvr: actually i did it using the terminal... so i think i'll have to do it that way again
[17:11] <nikki93> Anyone here tried Arch Linux?
[17:11] <ultimate89> does ubuntu 9.04 support brother dpc printer?
[17:11] <yrlnry> Thanks again folks.  I am completely content now.
[17:11] <Pici> !ot | nikki93
[17:11] <ejk> uni4dfx: I odn't see them on http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[17:11] <defrysk> nikki93, yes
[17:11] <Shadow_Sam> well I just want to upgrade my 8.1 version. but my repository list as index not found... so... sugestions?
[17:11] <Baconheart> I upgraded to 9.04 and now xorg is taking up huge % of the CPU... any idas?
[17:11] <leohartx> i've just installed jaunty, but i cant set my resolution to 1280x960
[17:11] <gafir> Hello, I'd like to know if there is a website that check the compatibility of your hardware and external devices with Ubuntu -- partly automated would be great, but if there's a website that centralizes all type of devices and their compatibility, it would be great
[17:11] <gafir> thanks
[17:11] <leohartx> i've just installed jaunty, but i cant set my resolution to 1280x960, how do i solve it ?
[17:11] <stone1343> Type3Singularity: thanks
[17:11] <nikki93> Woopsie. Meant to ask on #ubuntu-offtopic.
[17:11] <mellow> salve a tutti
[17:12] <Pici> !it | mellow
[17:12] <uni4dfx> ejk: here http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/jaunty/
[17:12] <Shadow_Sam> :D found it. I think
[17:12] <mellow> !list
[17:12] <sipior> Baconheart: what do you mean by "huge", and what X Window programs are you running?
[17:12] <Marfi> How in the world does the netbook version need 384 mb of ram, and the regular version needs 256...?
[17:12] <BoltClock> Pici: in that case i think ill prefer a clean install because intrepid doesnt work properly. is there any way i can transfer my applications over as well and not just ~?
[17:12] <mellow> !bot
[17:13] <jelly12gen> zomg ubuntu update!
[17:13] <Baconheart> sipior: just firefox/thunderbird... using from 35-99% of cpu all to XORG not firefox/thunderbird
[17:13] <ejk> uni4dfx: awesome, thanks! probably get more seeds if it was on the page I was looking at.
[17:13] <stpere> please, somebody can point me to the hashsum (md5sum) of the new release??
[17:13] <shadowland> Congratulations to all those involved in releasing Jaunty!  Good job :)
[17:13] <Pici> BoltClock: Not really, unfortunately.
[17:13] <jacksparrow> hey guys, the html title here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading is wrong!
[17:13] <jelly12gen> stpere: google can do that
[17:13] <uni4dfx> ejk: i agree
[17:13] <melkart> stpere: releases.ubuntu.com... the find the file MD5SUMS
[17:13] <WorldBFree> is there a way to boot up the ubuntu iso directly from my hd, so i dont have to burn a disk
[17:13] <racecar56> usb flash drive
[17:13] <mogul218> jacksparrow it sure is
[17:14] <racecar56> if u have 1
[17:14] <melkart> wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[17:14] <BoltClock> Pici: aw :(
[17:14] <Rolcol> Torrents are a very friendly way to get the .iso.  Less stress on the server
[17:14] <harisund> Folks, is apt-get install ubuntu-desktop still the way to go from a server edition to a desktop edition equivalent?
[17:14] <WorldBFree> well, why cant i do the same thing from an hd partition, and boot the iso that way?
[17:14] <shadowland> WorldBFree: No, not really.  If you want to try it, I think you can use Wubi and have the option to uninstall if you don't like it
[17:14] <WorldBFree> ive done it with other debian based distros
[17:14] <defrysk> harisund, yes
[17:14] <WorldBFree> im not talking about instaling it
[17:14] <jacksparrow> mogul218, but the content is new
[17:14] <sipior> Baconheart: might try killing and restarting the server. is it mostly user space or kernel space?
[17:14] <harisund> defrysk: thanks :)
[17:14] <Type3Singularity> Marfi: It also uses more harddrive space than Xubuntu (1.8g/2.1g), I just installed them both in virtual machines to work out which to stick on my eee
[17:15] <sipior> Baconheart: the cpu usage, i mean.
[17:15] <WorldBFree> im sure there is a way to mount the image through grub, with initrd and whatnot
[17:15] <mindframe-> what version of ruby is defaulted in 9.04?
[17:15] <Huufarted> Anybody know where I can find the differences between Ubuntu Desktop and Netbook?
[17:15] <Type3Singularity> I recommend Xubuntu for the netbook :)
[17:15] <Marfi> Type3Singularity: Same. Thats what I used for my eee
[17:15] <BoltClock> Pici: it looks like ill have to write down a list of things i do and apps i install so i can repeat the process at every clean install...
[17:15] <ubuntistas> system testing doesn't open
[17:15] <Huufarted> BoltClock, stand by
[17:15] <sipior> ubuntistas: well, what sort of error do you see?
[17:16] <Baconheart> sipior: I've rebooted already didn't help.  cpu is 8%us, 97%id, right now (according to top)
[17:16] <Type3Singularity> Huufarted: Netbook has a differnet launcher and window manager
[17:16] <ubuntistas> sipior program doesn't open
[17:16] <ubuntistas> at all
[17:16] <sipior> Baconheart: "id" means "idle"
[17:16] <usr13> Is this current info on using iPhone with ubuntu 8.04?
[17:16] <Type3Singularity> mindframe-: --version give me 1.8.7
[17:16] <melkart> WorldBFree: i think there might be a "fromiso" boot parameter
[17:16] <Matr|X> my ubuntu pc is crashed caz i install lamp-serv some thing went wrong with my sql 5
[17:16] <michi> same here
[17:16] <mindframe-> thanks Type3Singularity :)
[17:16] <Huufarted> Type3Singularity: any screenshots of it?
[17:16] <Matr|X> how i can fix evry thing agiain
[17:16] <michi> mysql is broken
[17:16] <Matr|X> yes.3
[17:16] <Matr|X> mysql
[17:17] <Huufarted> BoltClock: please see this link:  http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/howto-restore-all-installed-packages-in.html
[17:17] <WorldBFree> melkart, thats exactly what im referring to
[17:17] <Baconheart> sipior: ah.  now xorg has winded down to 19%
[17:17] <Marfi> Too many people. =)
[17:17] <Baconheart> sipior: is this a driver issue?
[17:17] <Matr|X> any help plz
[17:17] <phxphun1> Hello all.
[17:17] <Aznerad> I have a raid system upgraded to 9.04 that won't boot up with out intervention - "#mdadm --assemble --scan; exit" resumes the startup - how to fix this?
[17:17] <usr13> I'm getting error that there are unmet dependencies when trying to install virtualbox-2.2. Depends:  libqt4-network libqtcore4 libqtgui4
[17:18] <phxphun1> Any news on when Tracker will be fixed?
[17:18] <Matr|X> evry time i come here and tell some one the problem they says its stringe
[17:18] <Matr|X> plz help me
[17:18] <sipior> Baconheart: no. 97%id means your processor is idle 97% of the time (roughly).
[17:18] <firsm> I tried installing ubuntu from the alternate cd now. md5sum is fine, burnt at 8x speed, the cd integrity check from the isolinux menu is fine to. but when it comes to installing packages, I get corrupted packages (all of them) after having installed 5 packages and dozens of I/O errors on sr0. Anyone experienced that? Is the SATA stack buggy for CD drives?
[17:18] <usr13> Any help with this issue will be greatly appreciated.
[17:18] <Huufarted> usr13: how are you going about isntalling it?
[17:18] <JockyWilson> Ubuntu9.04 Nvidia CHANGE resolution... gksu nvidia-settings and click on save FAILED TO PARSE (cannot save settings)
[17:18] <sipior> Baconheart: in other words, i don't think there's a problem here.
[17:18] <chazco> Anyone experiencing poor fonts on 9.04? msttcorefonts is installed, but websites dont render as they did in 8.10
[17:18] <kane77> is there any strategy game similar to caesar 3 available for ubuntu?
[17:18] <Matr|X> helloooooooooooooo
[17:18] <jameswf> WOW
[17:18] <Type3Singularity> Huufarted, http://www.ubuntumini.com/2008/10/installing-ubuntu-netbook-remix.html - personally I don't like it
[17:18] <usr13> Huufarted: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-2.2
[17:19] <jameswf> Huufarted:
[17:19] <BoltClock> Huufarted: what does the second command do?
[17:19] <Matr|X> what is the command to test my ubuntu some thing crash
[17:19] <albacker> what was the latest way to run windows under ubuntu (i read it before a few days in ubuntuforum i can't refind it though). Something like VMWARE but faster.. thanks!
[17:19] <Huufarted> BoltClock read the entire article
[17:19] <jameswf> Huufarted: Also apt-get -f install
[17:19] <Huufarted> Type3Singularity: thanks.  :)
[17:19] <peeps[work]> albacker, you mean virtualbox?
[17:19] <Baconheart> sipior: but it says xorg is taking up 82% of cpu right now.....confused
[17:19] <Shad0www> Hello guys, does Ubuntu Netbook Remix works well on MSI Wind U100? P.S. ShipIt is down for me.
[17:19] <Matr|X> Type3Singularity
[17:19] <jimcooncat> where to get info on software installation from .tar.gz package?
[17:19] <albacker> peeps[work], maybe, i'm not even sure,
[17:19] <albacker> peeps[work], i'll goole it up, and see if it was it.
[17:19] <usr13> Huufarted: Instructions from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[17:19] <tom_> hi
[17:19] <JockyWilson>  Ubuntu9.04 Nvidia CHANGE resolution... gksu nvidia-settings and click on save FAILED TO PARSE (cannot save settings) ?
[17:19] <harisund> jimcooncat: which package are you installing? Chances are it is in the repository already
[17:19] <tom_> i just read the ext4 is solved in jaunty
[17:20] <tom_> is it now save to use ext4?
[17:20] <Huufarted> usr13, you can use apt-get install to install the dependencies, but it's odd that it doesn't install the dependencies along with it
[17:20] <tom_> i meant the ext4 bug
[17:20] <grawity> jimcooncat: usually, you extract the files from .tgz (tar xvf someapp.tar.gz), go to the newly-created folder, and read the files "README" and "INSTALL".
[17:20] <Shadow_Sam> still not working... my ubuntu is BR version... :I
[17:20] <usr13> And got the link from  ubottu !iphone
[17:20] <harisund> ubottu !iphone
[17:20] <peeps[work]> when did jaunty officially get released? can't believe I missed the party
[17:20] <jimcooncat> harisund: pdf-edit on gutsy
[17:20] <Huufarted> Type3Singularity: so the netbook version of Jaunty just includes netbook-launcher ?
[17:20] <usr13> But it says:   libqtgui4 (>= 4.4.3) but it is not installable
[17:20] <albacker> peeps[work], that's probably it, ever tried vbox?
[17:21] <peeps[work]> albacker, yes, i like it very much
[17:21] <Hero-> did anyone try intel compiler?
[17:21] <albacker> peeps[work], does it run fast?
[17:21] <usr13> Huufarted: But it says:   libqtgui4 (>= 4.4.3) but it is not installable
[17:21] <BoltClock> Huufarted: permission denied trying to run the first command, but sudo is already there
[17:21] <peeps[work]> albacker, runs fast enough for me, never tried any benchmarks
[17:21] <sipior> Baconheart: does it remain at 82% for long periods?
[17:21] <BoltClock> Huufarted: bash: /etc/package.selections: Permission denied
[17:22] <albacker> peeps[work], and can i use fluxbox (not gnome), do you think it has to do anything ? any problem ? or no
[17:22] <JockyWilson> for the 3rd time ............ Ubuntu9.04 Nvidia CHANGE resolution... gksu nvidia-settings and click on save FAILED TO PARSE (cannot save settings)??????????/
[17:22] <usr13> Huufarted: Wonder if there's something wrong with virtualbox-2.2 ?  Wrong version or...?
[17:22] <ubuntistas> system testing doesn't open at all
[17:22] <peeps[work]> albacker, when you get the guest OS installed, be sure to "add guest additions".  it will configure special drivers to make it run faster/better in the VM
[17:22] <bin1010> is launchpad.net having trouble today?
[17:22] <jacksparrow> yes
[17:22] <Roman__> Does anyone know how to change a .ogg file to a mp4
[17:23] <Shad0www> Hello guys, does Ubuntu Netbook Remix works well on MSI Wind U100? I have Realtek Wi-Fi card. jacksparrow: it is down.
[17:23] <peeps[work]> albacker, your window manager is irrelevant
[17:23] <jacksparrow> Roman__, mencoder
[17:23] <jameswf> bin1010: all *buntu servers will be kinda crap for the next week
[17:23] <waan> Roman__: there should be audio converting tools in the repository
[17:23] <Baconheart> sipior: stayed between 34-99 all morning
[17:23] <albacker> peeps[work], ok thanks a lot. can i apt-get it or should i compile ?
[17:23] <bin1010> ah....I was wondering why I could ping it but not connect
[17:23] <phxphun1> Any info on tracker crashing on jaunty? I'd hoped it would be fic=xed by release, but apparently not :(
[17:23] <cllaudyu> hi i upgraded to ubuntu 9.04 but some packages didn't installed corectly... how can i fix this?
[17:23] <peeps[work]> albacker, just get it from repos
[17:23] <Matr|X> 090423 12:23:26 [ERROR] /usr/sbin/mysqld: unknown option '--skip-federated'
[17:23] <sipior> Baconheart: what sort of machine are you running on?
[17:23] <Matr|X> 090423 12:23:26 [ERROR] /usr/sbin/mysqld: unknown option '--skip-federated'
[17:23] <sipior> Baconheart: processor and speed, in this case
[17:24] <albacker> peeps[work], sweet thanks. sorry for asking lots of questions :)
[17:24] <Type3Singularity> Huufarted: As far as I (and Wikipedia) can tell. Its listed as being optimized for atom processors, but I don't see how if its using the same binaries
[17:24] <Matr|X> invoke-rc.d: initscript apache2, action "start" failed.
[17:24] <JockyWilson>  Ubuntu9.04 Nvidia CHANGE resolution... gksu nvidia-settings and click on save FAILED TO PARSE (cannot save settings)???????
[17:24] <peeps[work]> albacker, np
[17:24] <Shad0www> guys, does Ubuntu Netbook Remix works well on MSI Wind U100? I have Realtek wi-fi card.
[17:24] <cllaudyu> hi i upgraded to ubuntu 9.04 but some packages didn't installed corectly... is there a way to fix this?
[17:24] <hemanth> I'm doing a project on n/w's , eth1 is not working after kernel recompilation
[17:24] <bin1010> I wanted to answer this post at the bottom http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=436346
[17:24] <bin1010> I think he can fix it by moving all the K0# down one and adding his "kill all java" script at K01.......Am I right?
[17:24] <jameswf> !details
[17:25] <Matr|X>  * Starting MySQL database server mysqld                                                                                              [fail]
[17:25] <Matr|X> invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed.
[17:25] <Matr|X> dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.0 (--configure):
[17:25] <Matr|X>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[17:25] <Matr|X> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mysql-server:
[17:25] <FloodBot2> Matr|X: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:25] <jEns|afk> wind u100 seems to have no problems
[17:25] <Matr|X>  mysql-server depends on mysql-server-5.0; however:
[17:25] <usr13> Huufarted: This is the repo I was told to add:  deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian intrepid non-fre
[17:25] <usr13> Huufarted: Any ideas as to what could be wrong?
[17:25] <Knirgh> !pastebin | Matr|X
[17:25] <Gecko> Hey, I need to understand something, the unr version's hardware support from netbooks is pressent in the normal version too, right?
[17:25] <tanveer> i have the the new ubuntu iso and i have mounted it on cdrom0 and nothing happens
[17:25] <cllaudyu> can someone tell me how to remove obsolete packs?
[17:25] <Huufarted> usr13: Honestly, no.  When you use apt-get, the dependencies should come right along with it.  You ARE using 'sudo' aren't you?
[17:25] <cllaudyu> can someone tell me how to remove obsolete packs?
[17:26] <Huufarted> cllaudyu: sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:26] <Huufarted> !repeat | cllaudyu
[17:26] <BoltClock> Huufarted: ran the first command, i got bash: /etc/package.selections: Permission denied
[17:26] <JockyWilson> Ubuntu9.04 how do you change/save resolution settings
[17:26] <pepperjack> !fixres | JockyWilson
[17:26] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156611/
[17:26] <Matr|X> plz help me
[17:26] <Knirgh> JockyWilson: go to #ubuntu+1
[17:26] <Matr|X> plz help me http://paste.ubuntu.com/156611/
[17:26] <JockyWilson>  Ubuntu9.04 Nvidia CHANGE resolution... gksu nvidia-settings and click on save FAILED TO PARSE (cannot save settings)
[17:26] <tanveer> #ubuntu+1
[17:26] <Huufarted> BoltClock, use sudo
[17:26] <tanveer> #ubuntu+1
[17:27] <BoltClock> Huufarted: already used sudo
[17:27] <tanveer> doesnt work
[17:27] <jEns|afk> hello, i have a o2-UMTS-Stick: icon210 and an up-to-date ubuntu, does somone know how i can install the stick(modem)?
[17:27] <Knirgh> tanveer: /join #ubuntu+1
[17:27] <bin1010> I have ubuntu 8.10...how long should I wait before I upgrade to 9.04?  when I upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 there was some change to /boot and the UUIDs that caused the machine to stop booting....don't want to go through that again  :)
[17:27] <pepperjack> ubuntu+1 redirects here now.  jaunty is released
[17:27] <JockyWilson>  Ubuntu9.04 Nvidia CHANGE resolution... gksu nvidia-settings and click on save FAILED TO PARSE (cannot save settings)
[17:27] <hbekel> JockyWilson: just edit your xorg.conf
[17:27] <Huufarted> BoltClock, then make sure the permissions on the file are right.
[17:27] <Matr|X> plz help me http://paste.ubuntu.com/156611/
[17:27] <tremby> i have an old machine still running Gutsy, and i want to install a package. i can't upgrade because the net connection is so slow. but none the mirrors seem to have packages for it any more. do any exist?
[17:27] <JockyWilson> FAILED TO PARSE
[17:27] <sipior> JockyWilson: yeah, we heard you the fifth time.
[17:27] <cllaudyu> Huufarted i know about autoremove... i think if is a command for deleting files that remained from the previous ubuntu...
[17:27] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156611/
[17:27] <tanveer>  /join #ubuntu+1
[17:27] <Matr|X> plz see my problem
[17:27] <tanveer>  /join #ubuntu+1
[17:27] <FloodBot2> tanveer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:27] <majlap> any one try upgrade of a wubi install ??
[17:27] <jameswf> tanveer: this is #ubuntu+1 (sorta)
[17:28] <BoltClock> Huufarted: do i need to touch the file? it doesnt appear to exist
[17:28] <sebsebseb> majlap: no  and you won't get Ext4 in a  upgrade wubi install
[17:28] <tanveer> well i need some help
[17:28] <pepperjack> tanveer: whats up?
[17:28] <jameswf> !ask | tanveer
[17:28] <majlap> using ext2 in an ntfs file :)
[17:28] <Huufarted> Matr|X: look at line 93
[17:28] <sebsebseb> majlap: also it's better to partition your hard disk for real, and maybe with the optional Ext4 file system, if setting up your partitions yourself.
[17:28] <JockyWilson> gksu nvidia-settings and click on save FAILED TO PARSE (cannot save settings)
[17:28] <Huufarted> Matr|X: that's your problem.
[17:28] <pronoy> ok i am certified stumped with the usplash image of ubuntu !! and i desperately need help now
[17:28] <sebsebseb> majlap: wubi uses Ext2?
[17:28] <cllaudyu> how can i remove previous packages from ubuntu 8.10 ???
[17:29] <Huufarted> BoltClock, read ALL of the article.  It should tell you
[17:29] <screamsayonara> does anyone know how to make a 4th gen ipod nano work in amarok
[17:29] <majlap> need windows on this laptop for work :(
[17:29] <champain> Before I switched to Linux I used to used the network on windows a lot, can I connect to the same network on ubuntu?
[17:29] <tanveer> i have 8.10 i have downloaded the iso for 9.04 and i have mounted it g-iso then what?
[17:29] <sipior> JockyWilson: are you trying to ask a question? if so, could you?
[17:29] <sebsebseb> cllaudyu: if you did an upgrade it should have suggested removing stuff
[17:29] <Matr|X> so i want to fix it im newbe
[17:29] <eternal_p> question all...how can I re-set all my compiz settings back to defaults...which file(s) do I have to delete?
[17:29] <Huufarted> BoltClock: you do need to touch the file first
[17:29] <pronoy> ok i am certified stumped with the usplash image of ubuntu !! and i desperately need help now
[17:29] <Gecko> Hmm, the torrent file for 9.04 isn't on ubuntu.com Anyone got it?
[17:29] <Shadow_Sam> the files not found are from this path: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/ZGNqCJ
[17:29] <Huufarted> BoltClock: I don't know why, but the system will not let you > to some system files
[17:29] <cllaudyu> in my grub list they stil appear there
[17:29] <pepperjack> !torrents > Gecko
[17:29] <scunizi> Gecko: it's there
[17:29] <albacker> peeps[work], since i dualboot, do you think it's possible to use mmy current windows installation with virtualbox ?
[17:30] <Gecko> scunizi: okay... Thanks :)
[17:30] <Shadow_Sam> damn... proxy... I think already fix that...
[17:30] <bin1010> ls
[17:30] <meshuggah_> out?
[17:30] <bin1010> !torrents >bin1010
[17:30] <SandGorgon> how do I check if the checksum of a CD is the same as the ISO ?
[17:30] <peeps[work]> albacker, i haven't tried that, but I think it is possible
[17:30] <wicope> hi, please some tutorial for alsa-driver-1.0.19 and kernel 2.6.29-02062901-generic ?
[17:30] <peeps[work]> albacker, try #vbox
[17:30] <JockyWilson> UBUNTU9.04 How do you save Nvidia settings >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  gksu nvidia-settings and click on save FAILED TO PARSE (cannot save settings) DOES NOT WORK
[17:30] <albacker> peeps[work], thanksyou
[17:30] <Huufarted> albacker: dual boot and virtual box don't fit in the same sentance.  You can't use Virtualbox to simultaneously boot a second installation on the same harddrive as your Ubuntu installation
[17:30] <pronoy> !usplash
[17:30] <jameswf> SandGorgon: md5sum /dev/cdrom0
[17:30] <greencookie> whats the difference between server install cd and desktop install cd?
[17:31] <dekkong> JockyWilson: sudo nvidia-settings
[17:31] <usr13> Huufarted:  Virtualbox install problem:  http://pastebin.ca/1401079
[17:31] <SandGorgon> jameswf, thanks
[17:31] <meshuggah_> greencookie, server and install
[17:31] <jameswf> greencookie: no GUI
[17:31] <pepperjack> greencookie: deskop= gui server = command line only
[17:31] <meshuggah_> greencookie, server and desktop*
[17:31] <Huufarted> greencookie: desktop uses Gnome and server uses only CLI
[17:31] <usr13> Any clues?
[17:31] <greencookie> cool :D
[17:31] <topriddy> Hope my favourite ubuntu guy is in hous e today?
[17:31] <greencookie> Thanks a lot! ill get server D:
[17:31] <Huufarted> greencookie: there are other differences as well
[17:31] <Hasanibrahim> hi, i want to make an advanted search in a folder filled with php files. How can i find some codes in php files ?
[17:31] <scunizi> greencookie: but you can put a gui on the server IF you want to
[17:32] <albacker> Huufarted, i thought i could use the current windows i had (in the other partition). probably copy it to ~/ and use it with vbox
[17:32] <greencookie> Huufarted: yet i wanna customize the gui part
[17:32] <oifzhozh> ##ubuntu-seeder
[17:32] <greencookie> Huufarted: yep*
[17:32] <Huufarted> greencookie: the scheduler is different (don't know why) and I believe comes pre-installed with Apache, PHP, MySQL.  Don't quote me on that, but stuff like that.
[17:32] <usr13> Huufarted: Here are instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[17:32] <theunixgeek> How can I install Jaunty without a CD?
[17:32] <frankS2> how do i upgrade from intrepid  to the latest version?
[17:32] <jpds> theunixgeek: Use a USB?
[17:32] <vvk-> does anyone have a clue why xrandr -o left screws up my mouse cursor (no problems anywhere else)? I'm using the open source radeon driver (GPU is Mobility Radeon X1600) in 9.04.
[17:32] <Hasanibrahim> hi, i want to make an advanted search in a folder filled with php files. How can i find some codes in php files ? anybody help
[17:32] <thalias09> !torrents > thalias09
[17:32] <theunixgeek> jpds: links?
[17:32] <Huufarted> greencookie: you can do that easily.  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[17:32] <JockyWilson> DEKKOMG sudo nvidia-settings Failed to parse
[17:32] <pepperjack> greencookie: i normally do a server install then apt-get a different kernel then apt-get install xserver-xorg fluxbox   as my starting point
[17:32] <ethana2> My mom's Inspiron 1525n with Intel X3100 is running Ubuntu 8.10..  Should I upgrade to 9.04?
[17:32] <smurf_> Maybe a noob question, but how do I install flash for Firefox?
[17:32] <greencookie> pepperjack: cool thanks
[17:32] <jpds> !info usb-creator | theunixgeek
[17:32] <sipior> JockyWilson: does it work if you use gksudo instead of gksu? there may be a problem with setting an environmental variable correctly.
[17:33] <scunizi> greencookie: Huufarted server gives you the choice of what you want to install.  It does not automatically install apache php etc.
[17:33] <theunixgeek> jpds: will it run on other distros?
[17:33] <Huufarted> ethana2: my advice...  if it's not broken, don't fix it.
[17:33] <topriddy> dayo: Hi, am Tope
[17:33] <greencookie> scunizi: thanks
[17:33] <JohnTeddy> To have full disk encryption, do I need the alternative install? or will the regular install do it?
[17:33] <jameswf> !upgrade >frankS2
[17:33] <ethana2> Huufarted: k
[17:33] <scunizi> JohnTeddy: alternate
[17:33] <Huufarted> ethana2: if you have issues with wifi or the computer not shutting down fully, things like that, go to 9.04
[17:33] <smurf_> !flash
[17:33] <JockyWilson> GKSUDO or SUDO nvidia-settings makes NO difference FAILED TO PARSE
[17:33] <smurf_> Never mind.
[17:33] <greencookie> so should I upgrade or clean install? i dun have anything important on hdd but just wondering if upgrade is equally good as clean install
[17:33] <Huufarted> smurf_: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[17:33] <sipior> JockyWilson: well, time to file a bug report, then.
[17:34] <en|gma> i need help here..
[17:34] <en|gma> how to delete remote host key?
[17:34] <commander_> hey guys i need help. i got the beta version of 9.04 but when i download updates it tell me it can't getthe key or when i want to get the version reeased today?
[17:34] <JockyWilson> have to manually reset resolution every reboot
[17:34] <amews_aj> Why does the netbook edition use more space than desktop ?
[17:34] <greencookie> en|gma: for ssh?
[17:34] <Huufarted> scunizi: thanks for that clarification on what server has.  :)
[17:34] <jpds> theunixgeek: No, only Ubuntu desktop.
[17:34] <scunizi> JockyWilson: after enabling the nvidia restricted driver did you log out.. restart X and log back in again before trying nvidia-settings?
[17:34] <en|gma> greencookie, yes.
[17:34] <usr13> !virtualbox
[17:34] <sipior> JockyWilson: what happens if you select resolution using the gnome screen resolution dialogue?
[17:34] <scunizi> Huufarted: np.. :)
[17:34] <theunixgeek> jpds: how can I install it in Fedora/
[17:34] <theunixgeek> ?
[17:34] <greencookie> en|gma: u gotta open up ure 'known_hosts' file and delete the violating key. i think :D
[17:34] <hbekel> JockyWilson: move ~/.nvidia-settings-rc aside and try again, and check your xorg.conf
[17:35] <yaaar> howdy
[17:35] <office> en|gma, rm ~/.ssh/*
[17:35] <office> ;p
[17:35] <en|gma> greencookie, how to open known hosts in terminal?can you teach me the command?
[17:35] <greencookie> en|gma: find / -name "known_hosts"
[17:35] <Huufarted> theunixgeek: this is the Ubuntu channel, not the Fedora channel.  Please join #fedora for questions about Fedora.
[17:35] <Shadow_Sam> I think now go. I need to config synaptic proxy
[17:35] <theunixgeek> Huufarted: it's about Ubuntu. I want to install Ubuntu.
[17:35] <jameswf> en|gma: echo > .ssh/known_host
[17:35] <greencookie> en|gma: then vi into the path u see
[17:35] <dalton2345> u all happy with jaunty?
[17:35] <theunixgeek> Huufarted: the only way I can, though, is to use usb-creator
[17:35] <yaaar> anybody round here want to lend a hand installing 9.04 on software raid?
[17:35] <Huufarted> theunixgeek: understood.  You want to install it over top of Fedora or dual boot with Fedora?
[17:35] <greencookie> or follow jameswf idea :D hee
[17:36] <theunixgeek> Huufarted: install it over Fedora
[17:36] <TheData> :-D
[17:36] <Huufarted> theunixgeek: what type of PC is it?
[17:36] <yaaar> the partition manager seems to be missing the raid/lvm volume options...
[17:36] <Huufarted> theunixgeek: I assume it has no CD drive?
[17:36] <frankS2> its not possible to upgrade from intrepid to 9.04 yet?
[17:36] <theunixgeek> Huufarted: manufacturer or processor? i686, as far as I'm concerned. CD drive is broken :P
[17:36] <U-b-u-n-t-u> can I upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04?
[17:36] <scunizi> yaaar: it's there on the alternate install not the live ce
[17:36] <scunizi> *cd
[17:36] <frankS2> U-b-u-n-t-u: i dont think so
[17:36] <office> frankS2, its possible
[17:36] <Pici> U-b-u-n-t-u: You need to upgrade to 8.10 first.
[17:37] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ok
[17:37] <screamsayonara> is it a good idea to buy someones iriver and put rockbox on it
[17:37] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ty
[17:37] <Huufarted> theunixgeek: my recommendation is to put another CD drive on a USB connection and boot from that.  BUT there are guides for isntalling Ubuntu over flash media
[17:37] <mikebeecham> Hi guys..
[17:37] <mikebeecham> I'm wondering what would be the best way to network within Jackal 9.04:
[17:37] <mikebeecham> I have a Mac Mini downstairs, with an attached USB HDD. This contains all my media folders on there, such as movies, mp3s, tv shows, etc. I would like to be able to access these from my Ubuntu machine upstairs, and currently have both machines cabled to a Netgear DG834 router.
[17:37] <mikebeecham> Prior to installing Jackal, I was using GVFS (accessing as SFTP), and this worked kind of ok. However, I'm wondering is there is a more robust way to network the Mac to the Ubuntu machine.
[17:37] <FloodBot2> mikebeecham: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:37] <office> frankS2, change repo, and dist-upgrade
[17:37] <frankS2> office: im running intrepid ATM
[17:37] <amews_aj> what is checksum for 9.04 ?
[17:37] <axsd9d> theunixgeek: did u check ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix??
[17:37] <vorian> !fact
[17:37] <theunixgeek> !flooding | mikebeecham
[17:37] <scunizi> screamsayonara: do you want an iriver.. if you do then yes.. up to you
[17:37] <pepperjack> screamsayonara: /join #ubuntu-offtopic but yes rockbox is very nice firmware
[17:37] <frankS2> office: what repos shall i use?
[17:37] <Matr|X> the same problem guys
[17:37] <JohnTeddy> Wc
[17:37] <theunixgeek> Huufarted: I don't have a USB CD drive, and those are reeeealllly expensive here
[17:37] <okanasik> Hi there, just downloaded 9.04 from torrent. I burned it to a cd. Booting it..menu shows up.. i hit install, and it gives a Boot CD error ..
[17:37] <tanveer> when i mount the 9.04 iso what do i do then?
[17:37] <axsd9d> theunixgeek: did u check ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix??
[17:37] <yaaar> scunizi, hmmm...the alternate installer disc page doesn't seem to have anything for 9.04...has that not been made yet?
[17:38] <Huufarted> theunixgeek: got a IDE - USB adapter?  It will work equally as well
[17:38] <tanveer> nothing about upgrade comes up
[17:38] <okanasik> can anyone help me out ?
[17:38] <usr13> okanasik: Sure
[17:38] <Huufarted> !ask okanasik
[17:38] <theunixgeek> axsd9d: no; is it installable from a USB drive? (I'm guessing it's yes)
[17:38] <scunizi> yaaar: should be.. let me see if I can find it.
[17:38] <Huufarted> !ask | okanasik
[17:38] <theunixgeek> !anyone | okanasik
[17:38] <axsd9d> yes
[17:38] <JockyWilson> ok Xorg tweaked rebooting :-D
[17:38] <okanasik> i already asked :P scroll up :P
[17:38] <sbasuita> mikebeecham, set up a samba server on your mac, then use CIFS to access it from ubuntu
[17:38] <axsd9d> its downloadable in .img
[17:38] <Baconheart> sipior: apollogies for the delay i butchered my xorg config... it's an AMD opteron of some kind, 2gig RAM
[17:39] <usr13> Huufarted: You forgot the pipe
[17:39] <theunixgeek> axsd9d: I'll learn more about it; from there, can I install the full version just by apt-get installing ubuntu-desktop?
[17:39] <Huufarted> usr13: I retyped it
[17:39] <frankS2> what sources shall i use for update from intrepid to 9.04?
[17:39] <mikebeecham> sbasuita: sorry mate....is there a wiki for that kind of thing?  I've not heard of CIFS?
[17:39] <okanasik> okanasik: Hi there, just downloaded 9.04 from torrent. I burned it to a cd. Booting it..menu shows up.. i hit install, and it gives a Boot CD error ..
[17:39] <sbasuita> !cifs | mikebeecham
[17:39] <mikebeecham> and the folders are shared by samba
[17:39] <sbasuita> !samba | mikebeecham
[17:39] <slmichalk> Is anybody having problems getting the live CD to do anything?
[17:39] <axsd9d> maybe a fresh install?
[17:39] <sipior> Baconheart: no worries. what sort of video card?
[17:39] <theunixgeek> !anyone | slmichalk
[17:39] <nicklas_> something wrong with launchpad?
[17:39] <tanveer> ...
[17:39] <Baconheart> sipior: i now only have a terminal window open and xorg is at 18% cpu
[17:39] <theunixgeek> nicklas_: seems like it
[17:39] <KingKimi> ikonia, SUCCESS ! i installed ubuntu to F drive... and its perfectly working and also have xp SAFE this time :P
[17:39] <sbasuita> mikebeecham, CIFS is "common internet file system" - basically it's what you mount the samba share as under ubuntu
[17:40] <vixey> nicklas_: I think so, it's not loading for me
[17:40] <KingKimi> ikonia, :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
[17:40] <Baconheart> sipior: donno, on-mobo ati of some kind
[17:40] <sbasuita> mikebeecham, it supercedes using smb on linux
[17:40] <office> frankS2, http://anotherugly.wordpress.com/my-ubuntu-904-jaunty-jackalope-sourceslist-32-and-64-bit/
[17:40] <mikebeecham> sbasuita: all the folders on the mac are shared through SMB
[17:40] <matty> How can i enable the new Jaunty notification System with Rythmbox?
[17:40] <mikebeecham> so theoretically, it's all there
[17:40] <theunixgeek> axsd9d: I don't have an Intel Atom processor :/
[17:40] <ubuntistas> i  have jaunty and my internet radio plugin doesn't play
[17:40] <sbasuita> mikebeecham, yes, so you access them from ubuntu by editing /etc/fstab and adding an entry with you'r mac's hostname, and setting the filesystem as cifs
[17:40] <racecar56> i love how 99% of the time things that i delete in windows are files called "desktop.ini"
[17:40] <tanveer> i dont get the opportunity to upgrade using the CD when i've mounted it ?why??
[17:40] <ubuntistas> and system testing doesn't work
[17:41] <matty> How can i enable the new Jaunty notification System with Rythmbox?
[17:41] <sebsebseb> ubuntulog: system testing???  and which internet radio site?
[17:41] <scunizi> yaaar: on this page http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate
[17:41] <mikebeecham> sbasuita: oh man...this is going to be another 'linux' monebt, I can see!
[17:41] <axsd9d> still i guess it should work fine..
[17:41] <mikebeecham> moment**
[17:41]  * KingKimi got real ubuntu with 17 gb in root.. ! and is very very very happy :D :D :D :D 
[17:41] <slmichalk> I can't get the jaunty live cd to load. it goes to the menu, but freezes when i hit install...
[17:41] <scunizi> yaaar: use the torrent and it will be much faster
[17:41] <axsd9d> i've not tried it yet.
[17:41] <okanasik> just downloaded 9.04 from torrent. I burned it to a cd. Booting it..menu shows up.. i hit install, and it gives a Boot CD error ..
[17:41] <sbasuita> mikebeecham, nah, takes 30 seconds ; )
[17:41] <sebsebseb> slmichalk: did you md5sum the CD?   did you  burn it slowly?
[17:41] <sebsebseb> !md5sum
[17:41] <okanasik> what should i do now? i burned it at lowest speed
[17:41] <weather15> Torent slower for me
[17:41] <slmichalk> yes I did.
[17:41] <theunixgeek> okanasik: then there's a problem with your download; check the integrity
[17:41] <usr13> okanasik: What error?  It does not boot?
[17:41] <sipior> Baconheart: you upgraded this machine today? do you happen to recall typical cpu usage from before?
[17:41] <theunixgeek> weather15: not enough seeders yet
[17:41] <doc``> is it safe to upgrade just from the package manager?
[17:41] <mikebeecham> sbasuita: `if you know what you're looking for....can I just access via 'network'?  would that do the same thing?
[17:42] <weather15> Try doing an md5 checksum
[17:42] <usr13> okanasik: We can not help you get a good CD.  Only you can do that.
[17:42] <sbasuita> mikebeecham, sort of - but it wouldn't mount it every time you booted
[17:42] <tanveer> .............
[17:42] <yaaar> scunizi...that's the page i was at...but it only has 8.10 and 8.04. Am I missing something here?
[17:42] <slmichalk> ima try unetbootin next I think.
[17:42] <Shadow_Sam> yes. updating :D
[17:42] <rodolfo> guys do you know how i can increase the speed of my wireless network adapter? It's about atheros' performance
[17:42] <slmichalk> For some reason USB boot tends to be more stable than CD boot.
[17:42] <usr13> okanasik: I mean... someone could mail you one or something like that, but other than that, I don't know.
[17:42] <mikebeecham> sbasuita: ok...can I add it to fstab by using IP addy?
[17:42] <scunizi> yaaar: I just noticed that.. if you copy and past the link you can edit it.. replace the 8.10 reference with 9.04
[17:42] <sbasuita> mikebeecham, yes
[17:43] <Baconheart> sipior: i dont remember before seeing xorg so high, and the proformance was nice and fast, now quite laggy, yes upgraded today
[17:43] <office> mikebeecham, sshfs
[17:43] <BoltClock> if i do a clean install, is it advisable to split my disk into two partitions, one with my existing install and one with jaunty, copying files and installing packages over, and checking before trashing the old partition?
[17:43] <mikebeecham> ok..will look now...you might have me back on in a sec?
[17:43] <scunizi> yaaar: they may be working on updating the web page still
[17:43] <office> mikebeecham, u can mount sshfs
[17:43] <okanasik> usr13:  ok mate thanx..i'm going to write again but i only got one cd left :P
[17:43] <mikebeecham> sbasuita: sshfs?
[17:43] <sbasuita> mikebeecham, search for 'cifs' on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[17:43] <weather15> Downloading since 9.04 came out and 4 and a half hours left
[17:43] <okanasik> usr13:  btw, cd's are just fine..maybe the torrent i downloaded has some problems
[17:43] <mikebeecham> office sshfs?
[17:43] <sbasuita> mikebeecham, only useful if you really need encryption
[17:43] <mikebeecham> huh?
[17:43] <majlap> !ot
[17:43] <usr13> okanasik: What CD burning software are you using?
[17:43] <okanasik> usr13:  cdxburner or smoething like that
[17:44] <weather15> There are pluenty of free iso burners
[17:44] <dayo> topriddy: hi
[17:44] <okanasik> yep its free one
[17:44] <sipior> Baconheart: might check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if X is really using the driver you want it to be using.
[17:44] <defrysk> try burning it at a lower speed
[17:44] <office> mikebeecham, yes
[17:44] <theunixgeek> I want to install Ubuntu from a flash drive. I'm not running Ubuntu at the moment. Where can I get more information about installing Ubuntu from a USB drive?
[17:44] <sipior> Baconheart: or try the old xorg.conf, if you have a backup
[17:44] <usr13> okanasik: What is the exact error you see on the screen?  Is it just not a bootable CD when you get done?
[17:44] <mikebeecham> office sorry mate, but I dont understand?  fairly new linux user here
[17:44] <scunizi> yaaar: just tried that and it works
[17:44] <KingKimi> whats the diff between ext 2 3 and 4 ?
[17:44] <okanasik> usr13:  Boot cd error
[17:45] <U-b-u-n-t-u> would it be better for me to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 then to 9.04 or just do a fresh install of 9.04?
[17:45] <deco> are there torrents for the new 9.4 distro? the ftp servers are full
[17:45] <okanasik> usr13:  this is the exact error
[17:45] <usr13> okanasik: Don't just do the same thing again with the same software, you will [probably] only waste your last CD.
[17:45] <okanasik> usr13:  can i burn it to my usb stick ?
[17:45] <topriddy> I need a better wireless applet for my ubuntu that can searching for wireless network automatically in the are and allow for easy selection
[17:45] <jameswf> I see no ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.jigdo
[17:45] <KingKimi> are 904 cds sent for Free ?
[17:45] <jameswf> :(
[17:45] <office> mikebeecham, what you want mount via netowrk ?
[17:45] <usr13> okanasik: Yes, that is an option...
[17:45] <slmichalk> okanasik, yes you can.
[17:45] <office> mikebeecham, ubuntu iso image ?
[17:45] <dayo> topriddy: try wicd
[17:45] <okanasik> oh let me try that one its wiser :P
[17:45] <usr13> !usb
[17:45] <KingKimi> are 904 cds sent for free like 80 ?
[17:45] <KingKimi> *810
[17:45] <slmichalk> get a program called unetbootin and you can boot from usb stick
[17:45] <scunizi> KingKimi: yes
[17:46] <okanasik> usr13:  thanx a lot for the help
[17:46] <usr13> okanasik: Just a sec...
[17:46] <KingKimi> scunizi, B-)
[17:46] <mikebeecham> office I think you jumped into a completely different conversation.  I'm discussing the networking of a mac and a linux machine together
[17:46] <Pici> !shipit | KingKimi
[17:46] <jameswf> !shipit > KingKimi
[17:46] <Jordan_U> jameswf, You can't use jigdo for liveCD images, the way jigdo images are built simply isn't compatible with LiveCD images
[17:46] <KingKimi> how many times the same !shipit ? :P
[17:47] <office> mikebeecham, you cant do this
[17:47] <office> mikebeecham, must install sshd server at mac machines
[17:47] <topriddy> dayo: Ur name sounds like your from my side(Yoruba), and am guessing your on Ubuntu, want to chat a lil?
[17:47] <jameswf> Jordan_U: argh oh well atleast torrent has a butt load of seeders
[17:47] <KingKimi> why doesnt ubuntu come with vlc ?? :(
[17:47] <Baconheart> sipior: my xorg.conf is blank now,  and i don't have an backup
[17:47] <harisund> If I edit the sudoers file to allow me to execute sudo without password, will I stop receiving those annoying dialog boxes with the screen getting a darker shade and all?
[17:47] <rski> KingKimi: you can install it easily.
[17:47] <theunixgeek> KingKimi: licensing stuff
[17:47] <mikebeecham> office.  I've been doing it through GVFS for around 6 months now!
[17:47] <dayo> topriddy: yeah, i am. but this is a support channel.
[17:47] <Baconheart> sipior: am i looking for anything in particulouar in the xorg.log ?
[17:47] <KingKimi> theunixgeek, ok
[17:47] <mikebeecham> but it's not 100& reliable
[17:47] <KingKimi> rski, i know
[17:48] <theunixgeek> KingKimi: open terminal, type sudo apt-get install vlc and enter your password
[17:48] <usr13> okanasik: That is all the info I have for you.
[17:48] <dayo> ot! | topriddy
[17:48] <majlap> KingKimi, because they woried about patents and etc.
[17:48] <office> mikebeecham, and now you can youse sshfs to mouint mac disk on ubuntu
[17:48] <BoltClock> if i do a clean install, is it advisable to split my disk into two partitions, one with my existing install and one with jaunty, copying files and installing packages over, and checking before trashing the old partition?
[17:48] <jameswf> KingKimi: there is a difference between Free and Free
[17:48] <rski> KingKimi: is that really a big issue if you can install it in 10seconds?
[17:48] <KingKimi> theunixgeek, i know
[17:48] <okanasik> usr13:  ok, i appreciate it thanx again bye
[17:48] <KingKimi> theunixgeek, my question is on WHY
[17:48] <KingKimi> rski, it isnt.
[17:48] <theunixgeek> KingKimi: again, licensing troubles
[17:48] <pepperjack> BoltClock: if you have the space it cant hurt.  i normally recommend /home on a seperate partition too
[17:49] <pace_t_zulu> the repos are slow
[17:49] <pace_t_zulu> surprise surpris
[17:49] <jeanpaul145> Hi everyone
[17:49] <theunixgeek> KingKimi: it plays MP3s, which are only playable under certain licenses from a media foundation that requires expensive royalties, as far as I understand it
[17:49] <rski> KingKimi: well suggest what they should remove from the liveCD to make space for vlc
[17:49] <office> mikebeecham, or you can use sftp to thesame effect
[17:49] <sipior> Baconheart: you're looking for errors (EE), warnings (WW) and information that shows that the driver knows which card it is running.
[17:49] <rski> im sure they are listening if you have a better idea
[17:49] <office> mikebeecham, http://www.stocksy.co.uk/articles/Mac/ssh_on_mac_os_x/
[17:49] <KingKimi> rski, totem :P :P
[17:49] <jeanpaul145> what has happened to launchpad? Is the server dead?
[17:49] <sv_osusr1> hi all.looking for a x11 magnifier which takes user input.Something like the compiz magnifier, but not built into the window manager .
[17:49] <rski> KingKimi: so suggest it then
[17:49] <KingKimi> rski, how  ? :D
[17:49] <Brack10> is there some way to check whether dpkg is frozen up?  It's been installing this package foreer
[17:49] <jameswf> rski: VLC not gpl compatible
[17:49] <rski> KingKimi: launchpad.net
[17:50] <dayo> topriddy: brb
[17:50] <rski> jameswf: um. why not
[17:50] <KingKimi> rski, from that link ?
[17:50] <sipior> sv_osusr1: have a look at "xmag", might do what you want.
[17:50] <KingKimi> rski, that doesnt have any to suggest :(
[17:50] <jameswf> rski because it is free but not free... codecs
[17:50] <rski> KingKimi: what?
[17:50] <test3r> I love *BUNTU!!!!! I will look through the websites to find my answer about upgrading First (to upgrade FF first, or, just upgrade to 9.04)?
[17:50] <mikebeecham> office how is ssh/ssfd different from SMB in terms of what I want to accomplish?
[17:50] <scunizi> sv_osusr1: look in System/preferences/Assistive technologies.. I think there's one there.
[17:50] <KingKimi> rski, how to suggest from that link ?
[17:50] <sv_osusr1> sipior:thanks.
[17:50] <rski> jameswf: just include it without the w32codecs then
[17:50] <yowshi> gaaah i think i got disconned from the archive
[17:50] <rski> KingKimi: if you dont know i wont learn you how
[17:50] <erkuserdem> hi friends im a new user of ubuntu, i like it for now but i have a problem, my internet is too slow :(  what do you think about this ?
[17:50] <pace_t_zulu> I am doing my part by providing unlimited seeding of 9.04 desktop and server i386 and amd64 from my super fast university connection
[17:51] <KingKimi> rski, thanks very much >.< :X
[17:51] <brutus> anyone familiar with sox? I get this problem with the command 'play xxx.mp3': play formats: no handler for file extension `mp3'
[17:51] <jameswf> !mp3
[17:51] <rski> fuck off i said where im noy going to babysit you
[17:51] <weather15> FTP so slow16 kb a second
[17:51] <rski> not*
[17:51] <Roman__> I need to figure out how to change a .ogg video file to a mp4
[17:51] <KingKimi> jameswf, define "free and free" :( :(
[17:51] <dayo> rski: language
[17:51] <sipior> rski: courtesy, sir.
[17:51] <rski> dayo: soil
[17:52] <KingKimi> rski, :X
[17:52] <pace_t_zulu> so i guess #ubuntu+1 forwards here then... anyone know when it will be back up?
[17:52] <scunizi> Roman__: not sure but you might want to check out OpenMovieEditor
[17:52] <jameswf> KingKimi: There is Free as in beer, Free beer tomorrow, and free as in Freedom... see http://fsfe.org/documents/freesoftware.en.html
[17:53] <Roman__> Does anyone know how to convert a .ogg video file into a mp4
[17:53] <torpor> hiya folks
[17:53] <rski> pace_t_zulu: probably when the toolchain is uploaded
[17:53] <KingKimi> jameswf, thanks !
[17:53] <ahox> Hi, my new jaunty crashes my box after I installed the fglrx drivers from repo. I found that the ati 9.4 and 9.3 does not work with the xorg 7.4. Is there some other way of getting a multihead? or some bugfix?
[17:53] <weather15> Really is ubuntu 9.04 a major inprovement from 8.10?
[17:53] <SandGorgon> guys.. is it safe to use ext4 now ?
[17:53] <sipior> brutus: probably just need an mp3 library installed.
[17:53] <torpor> anyone got some time to help me with an ATI Radeon HD/3650 + AMD64 driver issue?
[17:53] <rski> weather15: We can not decide for you.
[17:53] <happosade> Do anyone know why they reset that stats from http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 like every hour?
[17:53] <torpor> i've installed 9.04 and the ATI drivers but I just get garbage onscreen
[17:53] <ubuntistas> update manager doesn't load
[17:53] <Polterge|st> yeah, is it safe to upgrade to the final release of Ubuntu 9.04 ?
[17:53] <rski> weather15: That you have to discover for yourself.
[17:53] <Mariappan> hai
[17:53] <Polterge|st> or are the FS bugs still there
[17:53] <pace_t_zulu> rski: toolchain? could you elaborate? perhaps provide a link where i can read up on toolchain?
[17:53] <jameswf> SandGorgon: I formatted a thumbdrive as ext4 and it started to levitate...
[17:53] <KingKimi> Mariappan, HI !
[17:53] <scunizi> ahox: I just read that with jaunty that is one of the regressions... some ati cards broke
[17:54] <rski> pace_t_zulu: toolchain is stuff like glibc gcc etc.
[17:54] <Mariappan> hai Kingkimi
[17:54] <SandGorgon> jameswf, ha ha ... i was thinking more in terms of delayed allocations
[17:54] <dokuro> is today the day of the book ?
[17:54] <torpor> scunizi: where did you read that?
[17:54] <topriddy> I need a better wireless applet for my ubuntu that can searching for wireless network automatically in the are and allow for easy selection
[17:54] <alienkid> dontzap gives "command not found" running junty
[17:54] <Baconheart> sipior: only WW i see is "RADON(0): Direct rendering disabled"
[17:54] <alienkid> *jaunty
[17:54] <pace_t_zulu> rski: how does that affect #ubuntu+1
[17:54] <torpor> i have a Radeon HD 3850
[17:54] <jameswf> topriddy: NetworkManager
[17:54] <rski> pace_t_zulu: before it isn't done there wont be any #+1 that's how
[17:54] <sipior> Baconheart: well, that would explain the higher cpu usage, certainly.
[17:54] <test3r> Hi I'm running 8.10 on AMD box w/gForce : Should I upgrade Firefox first, and then upgrade to 9.04? Or will simply upgrade to 9.04 work?
[17:54] <racecar56> ubuntu's us archive is down?
[17:54] <VECPU1> Where can I find a torrent download for 9.10?
[17:55] <scunizi> torpor: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Linux-and-Open-Source/Ubuntu-904-the-Jaunty-Jackalope-Sports-Modest-Software-Improvements-But-Big-Plans-535187/
[17:55] <brutus> sipior, what library is this specifically?
[17:55] <VECPU1> 9.04*
[17:55] <torpor> racecar56: seems like it.
[17:55] <ahox> so does the radeonhd driver support multihead?
[17:55] <racecar56> torpor, odd
[17:55] <torpor> scunizi: thaknks
[17:55] <rski> test3r: dosen't matter
[17:55] <happosade> test3r: I think that there is no difference
[17:55] <alienkid> how come dontzap isn't found in jaunty?
[17:55] <pace_t_zulu> rski: what sort of updates need to made to the toolchain?
[17:55] <jeanpaul145> alienkid: you need to install it first.
[17:55] <test3r> rski: happosade: OK TY just wanted to be sure.
[17:55] <alienkid> I want to run dontzap --disable
[17:55] <quibbler> test3r, firefox is updated when you install 9.
[17:55] <torpor> anyone got a Radeon HD 3650?
[17:55] <quibbler> 9.04
[17:55] <test3r> aaaa OK
[17:55] <Baconheart> sipior: so, any idas on resolving it?
[17:55] <Webu> VECPU1, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ is the way to go though I've also got a collection backed up at http://www.verkkojohto.net/jaunty/ :-)
[17:56] <ahox> torpor: I have an 3600 series
[17:56] <racecar56> torpor, it is..... weird
[17:56] <rski> pace_t_zulu: none in particular. they just need to make the new toolchain before the channel is started again. i guess i can't explain it more clearly, sorry.
[17:56] <leohartx1> i've just installed jaunty, but i cant set my resolution to 1280x960, how do i solve this ?
[17:56] <Miffentrop> soouhm.. does anyone have a mirror for the win32-image-writer tool? Can't reach launchpad :(
[17:56] <prmr> Is there a Netbook Remix torrent anywhere?
[17:56] <sipior> brutus: try grabbing "lame", that should pick it up en passant.
[17:56] <torpor> 'tis very frustrating .. if i have to go buy another card, what should i get?
[17:56] <Ahmuck> spanish ?
[17:56] <Pici> !es | Ahmuck
[17:56] <torpor> also in the meantime how do i get just plain o'l X working on my card, 2D mode?
[17:56] <VECPU1> Webu: thanks a bunch. is anyone in this channel in charge of maintaining the main site? it's worth mentioning that there is no updated link for 9.04 anywhere (only old versions)
[17:56] <dokuro> amd 4800
[17:57] <dokuro> or ATI 4800
[17:57] <ljuwaidah> very quick question guys
[17:57] <rski> please dont ask to ask
[17:57] <torpor> how can i reconfigure X to just use the 2D driver (which used to work before I tried to get 3D working)
[17:57] <pace_t_zulu> rski: no worries... thank you for letting me know that the toolchain is relevant
[17:57] <ljuwaidah> where is the 32bit gcc located on the 64-bit distro?
[17:57] <dokuro> jejej
[17:57] <TheData> excactly
[17:57] <Webu> VECPU1, no problem at all, unfortunately I don't really know about that - some people have mentioned that torrent link problem on the main site though :-S
[17:57] <Ahmuck> itialian ?
[17:57] <alienkid> I can install anything in synpatic! Or update the package list.
[17:57] <alienkid> it just hangs
[17:57] <brutus> sipior, ok thanks i'll check it out
[17:58] <torpor> how can i reconfigure X to just use the 2D driver (which used to work before I tried to get 3D working)
[17:58] <natsukashi> I guess this question has been asked a few time since the release. But still, is it possible to upgrade to 9.04 through the command line? So I won't have to reformat my drive
[17:58] <ljuwaidah> *version
[17:58] <sikor_sxe> i have an intel i945 gfx chip in my laptop. is updating to jaunty recommended then? i read there are bad regressions with the intel driver
[17:58] <scunizi> torpor: sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the driver line then replace the "nvidia" or whatever with the name of the generic driver you want . nvidia=nv ati=?
[17:58] <torpor> natsukashi: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:58] <natsukashi> thanks
[17:58] <scunizi> torpor: vesa
[17:58] <KIAaze> Hello, is it normal that the checksum here: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ is different from the one here: http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/MD5SUMS for ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso ?
[17:58] <VECPU1> Webu: yeah, it's a real bummer -- because today's the day it /really/ should have the link.
[17:58] <KIAaze> which one is the official torrent?
[17:58] <Webu> VECPU1, exactly indeed :-S
[17:58] <ljuwaidah> no one knows?
[17:58] <TheData> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[17:59] <linko47> UBUNTU RELEASE DAY!!!!
[17:59] <sipior> Baconheart: might see if the new gnome display dialogue allows you to enable hardware acceleration there. maybe also see if a better driver is available.
[17:59] <Miffentrop> does anyone have a mirror for the win32-image-writer tool? Can't reach launchpad :(
[17:59] <rodolfo> what file should I look for to remove one specific driver from blacklist?
[17:59] <KIAaze> and what about the different checksums?
[17:59] <dekkong> if I would like to stream media that uses windows media player. is it possible to do this with somekind of player in ubuntu?
[17:59] <VECPU1> dekkong: have you tried VLC?
[17:59] <sipior> Baconheart: search using your preferred apt interface.
[17:59] <ljuwaidah> I'll come back later
[17:59] <markeo> I love release days. Getting harder and slower to get in on dist upgrades on the ground floor though heh
[17:59] <scunizi> dekkong: vlc streams with multiple codecs
[17:59] <torpor> i guess i'm going to go back to ubuntu 8.10 for now
[18:00] <quibbler> !it | Ahmuck
[18:00] <VECPU1> !VLC | dekkong
[18:00] <topriddy> I need to be able to log in with my root account from the log-in screen . How do I do that???
[18:00] <saaa> hi
[18:00] <slmichalk> Where can i find jaunty's md5 hash?
[18:00] <pronoy> i installed the realplayer and i can't access it .......had a binary file for installation
[18:00] <natsukashi> torpor: ... It didn't upgrade.
[18:00] <saaa> looking for a french motherlang to check for a translation
[18:00] <torpor> topriddy: first make sure you have a root password
[18:00] <Pici> saaa: Try #ubuntu-fr
[18:01] <torpor> natsukashi: there is more to it than that .. but do a search for "apt-get dist-upgrade" and you will find the wiki data
[18:01] <markeo> topriddy: log in as your user, sudo to root, passwd, enter you password, then you will be able to log in as root.
[18:01] <racecar56> O_o so we see.. launchpad AND us.archive.ubuntu.com have died...
[18:01] <racecar56> odd
[18:01] <natsukashi> torpor: Aha, thanks
[18:01] <Baconheart> sipior: well the "hardware drivers" applet says "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system"...
[18:01] <sipior> topriddy: dangerous running X as root. it's generally considered bad practise. maybe another way to do what you want?
[18:01] <markeo> topriddy: That's a really silly thing to do though, why MUST you log in directly as root?
[18:01] <slmichalk> Where can i find jaunty's md5 hash?
[18:01] <pronoy> help with realplayer here please
[18:01] <italomaia> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes <= needs update!!
[18:01] <torpor> slmichalk: on the main servers
[18:02] <fuzz> hi guys, i think i got stuck
[18:02] <peace_> pronoy: you don't need of  realplayer
[18:02] <alienkid> why can't I refreash the package list install packages or update in Jaunty?
[18:02] <XPS_M1330> say, if have 300 instances of gwenview opened, how can shut them all at once?
[18:02] <sipior> Baconheart: were you using a proprietary driver before?
[18:02] <topriddy> markeo: Its my netbeans IDE, the j2me requires some root privileges. Dont want to bother myself with security issues/ assigning privs.
[18:02] <torpor> XPS_M1330: killall gwenview
[18:02] <peace_> XPS_M1330: pkill program
[18:02] <cnus8n> slmichalk, MD5SUMS - http://ftp.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/pub/linux/ubuntu/releases/jaunty/MD5SUMS
[18:02] <pronoy> peace_: i can't access the w32 codecs right now ..so i need realplayer to play rmvb file
[18:02] <racecar56> italomaia, i noticed that with 8.10 back when 8.10 was released :P
[18:02] <BoltClock> pepperjack: when i install jaunty in that manner, what does grub do?
[18:02] <peace_> pronoy: vlc
[18:02] <rullie> hi, so how's JJ's stability?
[18:03] <fuzz> i checked some remote login thing by accident and now when i load the X it just wants to connect to someone else's pc and it wont login to my own desktop anymore
[18:03] <pronoy> peace_: rmvb not supported by vlc !!!
[18:03] <italomaia> racecar56, 8.10 hash are there...
[18:03] <slmichalk> thanks
[18:03] <fuzz> how fked is that?!
[18:03] <natschil> hi, does anyone have jaunty working with fglrx and an ati x1250 card (integrated) ? I'm about to upgrade to jaunty, so I was wondering whether there's anything I should know about jaunty and ati cards
[18:03] <markeo> top: just as long as you're aware that you're circumventing a security rule that's there for a very very good reason.  I'd take the time to find the workaround, but that's me
[18:03] <Baconheart> sipior: i believe so, but i can't say for 100% sure
[18:03] <racecar56> italomaia, no... im saying back when 8.10 was new the hash wasn't there
[18:03] <whattey> how come  /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-server/volatile shows up when i do df -h? afaik nothing in there i need ;o
[18:03] <peace_> pronoy: then wait and install w32stuff
[18:03] <italomaia> ah, ok
[18:03] <racecar56> italomaia, i reported the bug
[18:03] <italomaia> thnx = ]
[18:03] <racecar56> italomaia, and they (of course) fixed it
[18:03] <markeo> topriddy: I'm assuming you've tried launching it with gksudo, so good luck
[18:04] <Kemeros> what are the alternate versions in the torrent tracker?
[18:04] <jackstraw> is there a good program to fileshare music other than limewire?
[18:04] <pronoy> peace_: oh cmon...if you can't help with realplayer..then stop advising different stuff........
[18:04] <italomaia> could someone tell me the md5sum for jaunty 64bits?
[18:04] <chillitom> has anyone noticed reduced graphics performance with Intel gfx and 9.04?
[18:04] <atomiku> Unrelated question: are there any decent online thesauruses out there? All the ones I found are crap
[18:04] <fuzz> i checked some remote login thing by accident and now when i load the X it just wants to connect to someone else's pc and it wont login to my own desktop anymore...
[18:04] <torpor> natschil: so far my ATI and ubuntu experience has been positively *NEGATIVE*
[18:04] <cnus8n> italomaia, check this out http://ftp.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/pub/linux/ubuntu/releases/jaunty/MD5SUMS
[18:04] <topriddy> markeo: Thanks for the tip. But really, am sure I can manage the root power. Its an offline system. Thanks. I also just downloaded codebreaker IDE for C++ dont know how to install it
[18:05] <Chousuke> chillitom: I think it was mentioned in the errata
[18:05] <solexious|netbk> Is it possible to have netbook remix but remove the giant program selector?
[18:05] <italomaia> cnus8n, thnx!! cace6ea9dde8dc158174e345aabe3fae
[18:05] <torpor> chillitom: for the beta, intel graphics sucked.. but i just put NBR on my Aspire One and finally I have Direct Rendering (acceleration) for 3D graphics ...
[18:05] <natschil> torpor: mine have been quite positive, compared to other distros, i.e. my ati card is working well with hardy
[18:05] <henkpoley> Wah.. several hours past release and still fast package download?
[18:05] <torpor> natschil: i am considering going back to 8.10 to get ATI 3D acceleration
[18:05] <phoenixz> Hi there, Im about to receive a new server which probably will be a SUN sunfire t2000.. I received specs which say that under Solaris, this server has 16 virtual 1GHz processors... Would this mean that in Ubuntu I see only 1 real processor, or also 16 processors?? Anybody has some experience with Linux on SUN Sparc hardware?
[18:05] <torpor> i need to be able to work on OpenGL code in Linux
[18:05] <MaT-dg> I'm installing 9.04. In the partitioner (manual) I get the error "No root filesystem is defined" what have I forgotten?
[18:05] <Baconheart> torpor: i have an ATI card with no direct rendering right now
[18:05] <natsukashi> So, will upgrading remove my current programs, packages and so on?
[18:05] <pronoy> anyone know about realplay......says can't execute child process file not found......after it didn't give errors in installation
[18:05] <Baconheart> any ideas?
[18:05] <torpor> Baconheart: me too
[18:05] <natschil> torpor: no ati working in 9.04 ?
[18:06] <imretokyo> is #ubuntu the right place to ask about jaunty install and back up questions? if not which room is the right one?
[18:06] <chillitom> Chousuke, torpor thanks I'll dig out the release notes/search launchpad
[18:06] <torpor> natschil: only 2D .. no 3D acceleration.  ATI Radeon HD 3850
[18:06] <rodolfo> someone plase answer...what file should I look for to remove one specific driver from blacklist?
[18:06] <Zeggt> ubuntu is done growing http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu
[18:06] <fuzz> 16 processors?! how awesome is that?!
[18:06] <phoenixz> imretokyo: ubuntu+1
[18:06] <pepperjack> BoltClock: the behavior is the same you just tell it that the partition has a mount point of /home its in no way necessary to have a sep home partition though
[18:06] <torpor> rodolfo: /etc/modules/blacklist
[18:06] <phoenixz> imretokyo: Channel #ubuntu+1
[18:06] <melat0nin> Can I ask why the Bittorrent page on the Ubuntu.com site has not been updated?  This is a shocking oversight on a launch day
[18:06] <melik> kubuntu jaunty works flawlessly on an asus 901 eeepc
[18:06] <Pici> !ot
[18:06] <maigre> hi
[18:06] <BoltClock> pepperjack: i mean, after i install jaunty alongside hardy
[18:07] <walken> Salut
[18:07] <sipior> imretokyo: yep, you're in the right place.
[18:07] <natschil> torpor: oh, that sucks.... is this a general problem for fglrx, or only some cards?
[18:07] <rodolfo> torpor, thank you" and just one more thing..do you know if there is a way to upgrade my kernel to 2.6.29 through update manager?
[18:07] <torpor> natschil: not sure, just trying to work it out for myself today
[18:07] <sikor_sxe> i have an intel i945 gfx chip in my laptop. is updating to jaunty recommended then? i read there are bad regressions with the intel driver
[18:07] <eseven73> What is a good Twitter client for Ubuntu 8.04?
[18:07] <torpor> rodolfo: no
[18:07] <maigre> i just install jaunty 64, the apt-get seems to be unable to connect, but my internet is working.. server down?
[18:07] <torpor> sikor_sxe: the regressions have been fixed
[18:07] <solexious|netbk> Is it possible to have netbook remix but remove the giant program selector?
[18:08] <phoenixz> sipior: ohw? Launchday is today? so this is the 9.04 channel now?
[18:08] <Zeggt> is it a good idea to get aubuntu for my laptop? It's jsut im worried about fuckign around with drivers for years to come
[18:08] <imretokyo> what folders should I backup if i want to clean install ubuntu jaunty? i had ibex with dual boot until now, but now i want to use my entire hdd for jaunty, but i also want to keep my settings.bookmarks etc.. at the same time. i want to increase the size of my home partition with the clean install. is it enough to back up my home folder to not loose any of my settings?
[18:08] <melik> sikor_sxe, i don't know exactly but jaunty has really nice driver support
[18:08] <melik> imretokyo, just /home
[18:08] <rodolfo> torpor, well...is the newest version available?
[18:08] <melik> in my opinion
[18:08] <eseven73> !ohmy | Zeggt
[18:08] <torpor> for a long time i was running the 9.04 beta on my aspire one (intel graphics) and the performance was terrible, but with the recent release it seems to have been fixed and i now have 3d acceleration
[18:08] <whattey> how come  /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-server/volatile shows up when i do df -h? afaik nothing in there i need ;o
[18:08] <sipior> phoenixz: check the forum title...
[18:08] <pepperjack> well hardy will still see /home as located on its partition. the jaunty installer will automatically see hardy and give you an additional boot option in grub
[18:08] <torpor> but on my AMD quad-core box, ATI Radeon HD card, it still sucks ass.
[18:08] <topriddy> Given a *.deb.tar.gz how do I install? Just downloaded codeblocks for ubuntu and its in that format
[18:08] <fuzz> anyway can someone help me? is there a way to get the default settings back to ubuntu so that my weird network login thing gets unchecked (coz im stuck in a network login screen and cant load my local desktop anymore
[18:08] <torpor> rodolfo: use kernelcheck to get the latest kernel installed if you need it.
[18:08] <mib_p35eonpi> Hi , I want to work on the dolphin file manager
[18:09] <fuzz> halp would be appriciated
[18:09] <mib_p35eonpi> can someone help me how to start with
[18:09] <Zeggt> Hi, I hate ubuntu. Where should I go?
[18:09] <grawity> Zeggt: ##windows
[18:09] <whattey> haha
[18:09] <ellar> is it possible to install netbook remix from cd? how do i burn the img on cd?
[18:09] <melik> mib_p35eonpi, #kde
[18:09] <TheData> is launchpad offline?
[18:09] <Lartza540> I donwloaded 9.04 server, but there is no command line only eg install???
[18:09] <italomaia> Zeggt, hell
[18:09] <grawity> torpor: unpack (tar xvf file.deb.tar.gz), install (dpkg -i file.deb)
[18:09] <Zeggt> :(
[18:09] <Zeggt> this channel is insane
[18:09] <phoenixz> sipior: yeah yeah, I totally forgot :)
[18:09] <pronoy> need help with realplayer here plz
[18:09]  * Zeggt ITS CRAZY IS THIS CHANNEL.
[18:09] <Zeggt> EVERYONE NEDS HELP
[18:09] <maigre> i just install jaunty 64, the apt-get seems to be unable to connect, but my internet is working.. server down?
[18:09] <jojoman02> italomaia:  first thing i thought of, but i think ##windows might be a safer option for him, lol..
[18:09] <grawity> Zeggt: what else did you expect saying "I hate ubuntu" in #ubuntu?
[18:09] <sipior> Zeggt: welcome to my ignore list
[18:09]  * grawity retreats.
[18:09] <TheData> is launchpad offline?
[18:10] <Baconheart> wow i wish i hadn't upgraded now....
[18:10] <Lartza540> WIth server disc do I just install regular to get command line?
[18:10] <Zeggt> o_O everyone needs help and there just isnt enough help being given out
[18:10] <torpor> TheData: yes
[18:10] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I am about to do a fresh install of 9.04 and I am going to partition the drive in ext4 but I have a slave drive in ext3 I assume thats not going to be an issue?
[18:10] <torpor> Zeggt: help where you can then and stop the noise about it.
[18:10] <italomaia> jojoman02, rsrsrsrs
[18:10] <jojoman02> Zeggt, what u need help with, that might have been a start...
[18:10] <Zeggt> in windows, guess what? not this many places of help are asked
[18:10] <torpor> U-b-u-n-t-u: nope
[18:10] <U-b-u-n-t-u> thanks torpor
[18:10] <trunkz> Errm
[18:10] <trunkz> I cant seem to get libspe2 in jaunty
[18:10] <phoenixz> Hi there, Im about to receive a new server which probably will be a SUN sunfire t2000.. I received specs which say that under Solaris, this server has 16 virtual 1GHz processors... Would this mean that in Ubuntu I see only 1 real processor, or also 16 processors?? Anybody has some experience with Linux on SUN Sparc hardware?
[18:10] <trunkz> apt-get cant find it
[18:10] <rski> Zeggt: please dont troll
[18:11] <KIAaze> oh, now we have ipv6 torrents!
[18:11] <pavs> my update manager is not asking me to upgrade, am I missing something?
[18:11] <torpor> phoenixz: consult your hardware documentation. nobody can answer questions like this
[18:11] <KIAaze> are they faster?
[18:11] <maigre> ubuntu server is down? apt-get can't reech it
[18:11] <Pici> phoenixz: Perhaps try #ubuntu-server
[18:11] <pepperjack> phoenixz: i sent you a like yesterday ;p
[18:11] <rodolfo> torpor, thanks
[18:11] <phoenixz> pepperjack: you sent me what?
[18:11] <Alan> does anybody know what happens if you supply multiple servers for the same packages in sources.list
[18:11] <KIAaze> launchpad down, ubuntu server down, aircrack site down! The end is nigh!
[18:11] <Alan> ?
[18:11] <alienkid> my package update is hanging at 56% connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com
[18:11] <jojoman02> atleast the website is responsive, i remember last time the webpage wouldn't even load...
[18:11] <racecar56> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:11] <alexeyhurricane> hello
[18:11] <U-b-u-n-t-u> pavs do to the synaptic packager manager and make sure you have the repository settings right for updates
[18:12] <torpor> Alan: nothing, you'll get the newest from theh first server
[18:12] <alexeyhurricane> where is chat for ubuntu beginners
[18:12]  * Lord_Devi panics from everything being down and runs to the nearest window and defenistrates himself
[18:12] <racecar56> alexeyhurricane, here
[18:12] <Zeggt> Hi I need help. I downloaded Ubuntu and i still have no idea how babby is formed
[18:12] <U-b-u-n-t-u> pavs go* to the synaptic packager manager and make sure you have the repository settings right for updates
[18:12] <Alan> torpor: so it tries them in the order they are in the sources.list?
[18:12] <torpor> alienkid: us.ubuntu is being hit hard
[18:12] <torpor> Alan: yes
[18:12] <torpor> win 4
[18:12] <KIAaze> NOOOOOO, not the Window!!!!
[18:12] <jojoman02> alienkid: you should really do a fresh install, upgrades are yucky to be honest, but in the end it's up to you
[18:12] <alienkid> oh so is that why it's taking so long thank you
[18:12] <alexeyhurricane> i got trouble playing video in firefox browser
[18:12] <pepperjack> phoenixz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Sparc  :)
[18:12] <Polterge|st> I've not ever had a prob with upgrades
[18:12] <alienkid> I did a fresh install of Jaunty
[18:12] <Alan> torpor: so, having a local mirror, i could just put my local mirror lines before the global mirror lines, and if i'm inside my network i'll end up using the local ones?  and if not, it'll fail over to the global ones?
[18:13] <alienkid> gtg
[18:13] <alexeyhurricane> i used to play it but after i update to 9 i think it stoped
[18:13] <torpor> everyone should try to help as much as possible.
[18:13] <slmichalk> where can In find an i386 jaunty torrent?
[18:13] <Polterge|st> then again I'm running a comp that is maybe 5 or 6 years old
[18:13] <torpor> Alan: yes
[18:13] <maximo> how is it going sofar with Ubuntu 9:04 Jaunty Jackalope?
[18:13] <racecar56> O.O all of the servers are down!
[18:13] <jojoman02> Zeggt, babby?
[18:13] <fuzz> Zeggt: you dont know how they make babies?
[18:13] <Alan> torpor: excellent :)
[18:13] <racecar56> cool
[18:13] <grawity> KIAaze: The "Everything is down!" moments kind of remind me of http://is.gd/u7F2 </offtopic>
[18:13] <Polterge|st> I'm downloading the upgrade tools now
[18:13] <Angelsoul> salve
[18:13] <Zeggt> how is babby formed?
[18:13] <fuzz> join #birdsnbees
[18:13] <torpor> PEOPLE: this is a very active channel.  please everyone try to help as much as you can.
[18:13] <BoltClock> Zeggt: lol
[18:13] <Angelsoul> italian?
[18:13] <graingert> what is the easiest way to see how big the upgrade is to ubuntu+1
[18:13] <TheData> Ubuntu installing......................
 I did, still nothing. Anyway to force it to upgrade?
[18:13] <Polterge|st> if the servers were down it seems like I wouldn't be able to download the upgrade tools
[18:13] <hamid11771> I am crazy about NETBOOK remix :D i wanna install it but i Cant download win32-image-writer, the page is not available. any alternative ?
[18:14] <torpor> Polterge|st: not all servers are down
[18:14] <kbingham> I'm now on 9.04 ... but kded4 is running at 50% of my cpu usage (which seen as I have dual core - is an entire processor!)
[18:14] <Polterge|st> torpor, that is what I was insinuating
[18:14] <U-b-u-n-t-u> pavs I assume youre using 8.10 now?
[18:14] <torpor> kbingham: use top to find out whats going on, it could just be indexing software is trying to create the initial index of your disk .. it will settle down if you let it finish
[18:14] <weather15> Seems some mirrors are down
[18:14] <jojoman02> graingert, most likely it's around the cd iso size, so u could check that (it's 699), it's prob a little less. maybe 550 or 525
[18:14] <maigre> upgrade tools ok but no way to get any package (synaptic /apt-get doesn't work)
[18:14] <Polterge|st> yep
[18:14] <Polterge|st> 8.10 has been very good to me
[18:14] <hamid11771> I am crazy about NETBOOK remix :D i wanna install it but i Cant download win32-image-writer, the page is not available. any alternative ?
[18:15]  * fuzz needs a little help too if its ok
[18:15] <Polterge|st> results will vary though
[18:15] <scunizi> kbingham: check the running services.. might be tracker.. tracker did that on 8.10 & 8.04 gnome.. not sure if it's used for kbuntu or not.. might just be indexing
[18:15] <racecar56> ubuntu 2000
[18:15] <torpor> hamid11771: use a linux box to put the UNR image on a USB stick .. dd if=/path/to/the/image/file.img of=/path/to/partition1/of/usbstick bs=1024
[18:15] <markeo> upgrade status: file 8 of 1491. This is going to be a very, very long day.
[18:15] <Polterge|st> if 9.04 is really that much better than 8.10 then I think it will be worth it
[18:15] <torpor> hamid11771: then boot from USB and away you go
[18:15] <mib_p35eonpi> Hi, I want to join the development team of ubuntu
[18:15] <mib_p35eonpi> can someone help me regarding that
[18:15] <Polterge|st> I just want to find out if there is a way to automatically upgrade the FS to ext4
[18:15] <torpor> Polterge|st: its good if you've got the right hardware
[18:16] <Sylphid|work> could anyone send me a 9.04 torrent (desktop or server, 386 or amd64)
[18:16] <Polterge|st> I have tier 2 or something
[18:16] <jojoman02> mib_p35eonpi: join #ubuntu-dev
[18:16] <Polterge|st> I think all of my hardware is supported
[18:16] <KIAaze> mmh, there seems to be a big error on the torrent link on http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[18:16] <topriddy> torpor: The install command doesnt work after unpacking
[18:16] <torpor> Polterge|st: such an upgrade is not easy
[18:16] <hamid11771> torpor: i am on a linux box now, please give me the complete command :)
[18:16] <topriddy> Given a *.deb.tar.gz how do I install? Just downloaded codeblocks for ubuntu and its in that format
[18:16] <whattey> Sylphid|work http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/
[18:16] <torpor> hamid11771: i just did
[18:16] <KIAaze> it tries to download the .iso directly
[18:16] <melat0nin> look here for torrents: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[18:16] <c4nx> hi
[18:16] <c4nx> Bactrack 3 use APT?
[18:16] <fuzz> im stuck in some network login thing i dont know rly..
[18:16] <Polterge|st> torpor, there appears to be a script for it
[18:16] <U-b-u-n-t-u> pavs, you can't go from 8.04 to 9.04 thats why I am asking
[18:16] <Polterge|st> a patch for instance
[18:16] <Polterge|st> on the wiki site
[18:16] <scunizi> Polterge|st: it's not THAT much better.. but there are features that if you don't have them in 8.10 and they're available in 9.04 then do the upgrade.. if you're running an ATI card you might want to wait .. some of them are broken in the new version
[18:16] <torpor> topriddy: gunzip your.deb.tar.gz, tar xvf your deb.tar, dpkg -i ./your.deb
[18:17] <kbingham> scunizi: torpor: http://kbingham.pastebin.com/m21e9c384
[18:17] <Polterge|st> I have an older nvidia
[18:17] <Sylphid|work> whattey, not loading =/
[18:17] <Polterge|st> from what I've heard X is better in 9.04
[18:17] <Polterge|st> well for what it supports anyhow
[18:17] <torpor> Polterge|st: it is if you have the right hardware
[18:17] <scunizi> Polterge|st: your good to go then
[18:17] <amikrop> Isn't there an md5sum for 9.0.4?
[18:17] <Polterge|st> awesome
[18:17] <amikrop> * 9.04
[18:17] <proq> !startup
[18:17] <Polterge|st> :D
[18:17] <torpor> kbingham: looks like kde is the hog
[18:17] <amikrop> !md5sum
[18:18] <torpor> maybe you've got some widgets running?
 I am using RC of 9.04, trying to upgrade to the final release.
[18:18] <c4nx> Guys Backtrack 3 use a APT ?????????????
[18:18] <jojoman02> Polterge|st: to be honest x is better is most releases ever since the modularization of x
[18:18] <proq> !startupscreen
[18:18] <racecar56> !usplash
[18:18] <Polterge|st> yeah jojoman02 I have noticed this
[18:18] <Zeggt> !slashbox
[18:18] <Zeggt> !idiot
[18:18] <dragoncheese> how can I get audio on .wmv files to work? video works fine in mplayer but no audio
[18:18] <Polterge|st> it gets better and better
[18:18] <Zeggt> !ubuntu
[18:18] <LjL> !botabuse
[18:18] <Zeggt> !linux
[18:18] <c4nx> zzzzzzzzzzzzz
[18:18] <Zeggt> linux kernal sucks
[18:18] <KIAaze> "The application KTorrent (ktorrent) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV).", AAAH, now it's even the software that's crashing!!!
[18:18] <grawity> LjL: Can you please get rid of Zeggt?
[18:18] <LjL> !offtopic
[18:18] <torpor> dragoncheese: you need the w32-codecs package
[18:18] <rski> Zeggt: please dont troll
[18:18] <scunizi> Zeggt: go away to another channel and troll
[18:19] <LjL> grawity: no, i cannot
[18:19] <jojoman02> Zeggt: honesty, what are u trying to do? see if u can get banned?
[18:19] <trunkz> launchpad seems to be coming back :)
[18:19] <grawity> Aww :(
[18:19] <graingert> dragoncheese, you need the codecs from medibuntu
[18:19] <Doulos> Just block Zeggt
[18:19] <racecar56> Zeggt, if you are saying it sucks then go suck yourself
[18:19] <dragoncheese> torpor, I have that installed but still no luck
[18:19] <LjL> !feeding the troll
[18:19] <whattey> Sylphid|work try ftp://ftp.port80.se/ubuntu-cd/9.04/
[18:19] <whattey> should work
[18:19] <U-b-u-n-t-u> pavs if you have the synaptic package manager set with the updated to include new releases then it should show up in update manager
[18:19] <grawity> LjL: weren't you an op? :/
[18:19] <racecar56> Zeggt, go to another channel
[18:19] <LjL> grawity: i was, yes.
[18:19] <Sylphid|work> whattey, got it on http://cz.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/
[18:19] <torpor> dragoncheese: there are more codecs out there on other repo's, check medibuntu
[18:19] <dragoncheese> graingert, i do have all medibuntu stuff installed.. video but no audio
[18:19] <grawity> LjL: :(
[18:19] <whattey> ah cool
[18:19] <U-b-u-n-t-u> pavs if its not then I have no idea and someone else would have to help ya
[18:19] <graingert> dragoncheese, I see, are you muted
 maybe the server is busy, I will wait. Thanks :)
[18:20]  * fuzz is ignored
[18:20] <champain> Has anyone elses upgrade to 9.04 been hanging at 157?
[18:20] <torpor> dragoncheese: have you configured mediaplayer to use your audio subsystem?
[18:20] <jensa> Hello! how do i make a install file as root? am i root when i enter temrinal? What's the command for being root? Trying to create a install file for my soundcard drivers, but permission denied all the time
[18:20] <U-b-u-n-t-u> pavs ok I am using the germany server now and its fast if you decide to go the fresh install rout
[18:20] <torpor> i.e. can you play mp3 files?
[18:20] <longbow> what's'up with launchpad, is there aan alterative location to get win32image writer?
[18:20] <solexious|netbk> Is it possible to have netbook remix but remove the giant program selector?
[18:20] <jojoman02> champain: i suggest fresh install if possible...
[18:20] <LjL> !root > jensa    (jensa, see the private message from ubottu)
[18:20] <scunizi> jensa: sudo before a command
[18:20] <torpor> solexious|netbk: yes
[18:20] <racecar56> ubuntu2000
[18:20] <U-b-u-n-t-u> pavs most of them were like 50 kbs its up to 340 kbs
[18:20] <grawity> jensa: sudo <somecommand> for single commands, sudo -i for root shell.
[18:20] <racecar56> ubun2000
[18:20] <LjL> jensa: what soundcard do you have, that doesn't work out of the box?
[18:20] <jensa> scunizi, thanks
[18:20] <torpor> solexious|netbk: you can remove the netbook remix interface
[18:20] <graingert> solexious|netbk, yeah
[18:21] <jensa> ljl = Creative SB X-fi
[18:21] <LjL> jensa: ouch.
[18:21] <solexious|netbk> torpor graingert, thanks
[18:21] <jensa> What?
[18:21] <ShinyHat> just tried to use audacity and i get an error telling me to check device output settings, where there is nothing listed. what do i do?
[18:21] <Prez00> who here tested 9.04 as beta?  fairly stable?
[18:21] <racecar56> i have a sound blaster 16 xD
[18:21] <LjL> jensa: nothing, just support for it is abysimal
[18:21] <racecar56> not in any of my comps, but i have one sitting around
[18:21] <squidly> Prez00: I have a co-worker who used 9.04 for the last month
[18:21] <squidly> he said it's nice and stables
 I will try a diferrent server, after its done fethcing from this one. very slow, as expected today.
[18:21] <graingert> solexious|netbk, but why would you want to?
[18:21] <jensa> ljl, haha yeah, been trying and trying for AGES now
[18:21] <Polterge|st> are the FS bugs fixed in 9.04 as they said they would be by the final release date ?
[18:21] <Prez00> squidly: thanks..
[18:21] <scunizi> Prez00: if you're concerned wait until 9.04.1
[18:22] <squidly> Prez00: np. I'm going to it next week on my stuff
[18:22] <solexious|netbk> graingert, not a fan of it
[18:22] <Pici> scunizi: Non LTS releases are not likely to have those point releases.
[18:22] <graingert> solexious|netbk, aw
[18:22] <naxa> hi
[18:22] <scunizi> Pici: ah.. thanks .. didn't know that..
[18:22] <naxa> it's only me or launchpad has crashed?
[18:22] <longbow> naxa it's down
[18:22] <racecar56> its down
[18:22] <TheData> launchpad is down
[18:23] <Pici> naxa: Its having techincal difficulties.
[18:23] <TheData> strange, is it?
[18:23] <openforlife> anyone tried 9.04 on Eee 900? Couldn't get the beta to install
[18:23] <Pici> They're aware.
[18:23] <KIAaze> very aware
[18:23] <TheData> ok
[18:23] <VECPU1> Webu: still around?
[18:23] <KIAaze> more than JCVD
[18:23] <squidly> i'm having issues connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com
[18:23] <othellix> how i install on wine directx?
[18:23] <squidly> is that server down?
[18:23] <jensa> WOHO!!!! MY SOUND ON UBUTNU IS WORKING
[18:23] <torpor> squidly: yes
[18:23] <jensa> thanks to this channel for all help1
[18:23] <squidly> torpor: ok thanks
[18:23] <Polterge|st> it is probably down because today is D day pretty much and the final release is out and everyone is trying to upgrade at the same time
[18:23] <scunizi> othellix: it may still not allow you to play games.
[18:24] <racecar56> ya
[18:24] <othellix> ????
[18:24] <scunizi> othellix: check with #winehq on directx compatibility in wine
[18:24] <chillitom> on uprade I'm seeing a lot of Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0" messages
[18:24] <squidly> torpor: what can I use to install 8.10 pacakages?
[18:24] <chillitom> any ideas?
[18:24] <caty> wow, i lot of people here!!
[18:24] <othellix> play one game but i whant to install another
[18:24] <torpor> squidly: try another continent mirror
[18:24] <rapha> Will hibernation only work with a swap partition, or also with a swap FILE?
[18:25] <hbekel> chillitom: those are harmless warnings
[18:25] <torpor> instead of .us., try .uk. or something
[18:25] <Aznerad> initrd does not boot my clean raid - how to automate "#mdadm --assemble --scan; exit" on bootup? my grandparents will appreciate your help ;)
[18:25] <chillitom> hbekel, thanks
[18:25] <scunizi> rapha: yes I think so and the swap has to be big enough otherwise it will hang
[18:25] <othellix> i have a error tell me i need to instal directx 0
[18:25] <RobLoach> 1) Is libnotify messed?
[18:25] <rapha> scunizi: I know about the min size - that's why I would have preferred a file -- in case hibernation doesn't work, I can free the space again
[18:25] <scunizi> Aznerad: grandparents running raid on their machine? now that's adventurous :)
[18:26] <sebsebseb> nearly 1800 people
[18:26] <RobLoach> 2)) ATI drivers aren't working with dual monitor.
[18:26] <rapha> Any experience with 9.04 on a TP T61 so far?
[18:26] <markeo> Aznerad: IIRC you can't boot off an md device unless you have a custom compiled initrd for it. If you google up "boot linux md device" you should find the anwers
[18:26] <Polterge|st> another thing I wonder about is if it will be worth it or not the encrypt the entire partition after switching to ext4. I've heard ext4 is faster so I don't know if eventually encrypting it will make that much of a slowdown difference ?
[18:27] <kevin009> What is the *package name* that installs the restricted driver manager?
[18:27] <Aznerad> scunizi: it worked for 3 years and at least 4 ubuntu versions
[18:27] <nivardus> my 9.04 install freezes after language selection and attempting to make a selection (install, check disc, etc.)
[18:27] <racecar56> why isn't nvidia 178.xx in repos?
[18:27] <Pici> kevin009: jockey-gtk or jockey-qt
[18:27] <kevin009> thanks
[18:27] <graingert> How can I see all installed packages and sort by size, any frontend
[18:27] <Polterge|st> I actually found a site where a guy has a script that generates a random encryption at boot and at shutdown which is what I'm maybe after
[18:27] <markeo> ICBW, YMMV, other disclaimers apply because it's been a long time, and the more I think about it I'm thinking about LVM not md devices
[18:27] <TheData> launchpad is back online!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:27] <torpor> graingert: dpkg -l
[18:27] <Polterge|st> just for the sake of having constantly changing encryption because of the hacker activity going on out there on the web lately
[18:27] <TheData> slow but it is back
[18:27] <TheData> launchpad is back
[18:27] <Aznerad> markeo: i did google the topic and had it working in the last ubuntu versions but it broke this time for good
[18:28] <graingert> torpor, in order?
[18:28] <Polterge|st> especially via firefox
[18:28] <scunizi> Aznerad: that's great.. I'm not douting you.. just think it's really nice of you to set their system up that way.. they probably don't even realize the benefit of it.
[18:28] <racecar56> OMG "E: Package linux-image-2.6.28-11-generic has no installation candidate"
[18:28] <graingert> torpor, in order of size?
[18:28] <torpor> graingert: dpkg -l | sort
[18:28] <torpor> ;)
[18:28] <torpor> or use synaptic
[18:28] <racecar56> help! i should not reboot until this fixed
[18:28] <markeo> Aznerad: Yeah, my apologies. I'm undercaffeinated and reflecting back on LVM not md
[18:28] <torpor> racecar56: what?
[18:28] <racecar56> torpor, E: Package linux-image-2.6.28-11-generic has no installation candidate
[18:28] <racecar56> torpor, and its not installed
[18:28] <torpor> racecar56: why do you need it?
[18:29] <racecar56> torpor, because you gotta have a kernel :P
[18:29] <jelly-bean> when i vnc into my machine i want it to show me a different desktop that i can customize aside from my user's normal one. mainly because my user's normal one is a hi-res twinview setup and vnc is a low-res single monitor/desktop setup. how can i achieve this?
[18:29] <racecar56> torpor, im on 9.04 if you didnt know
[18:29] <shyam_k> what should i give with startx to start a second x session?
[18:29] <torpor> ermm.. you hav eone or your machine wouldn't be running
[18:29] <othellix> ufffffff
[18:29] <torpor> jelly-bean: set up another user, customize the desktop, tell vlc to use that new user/passwd combination instead of your old one
[18:29] <suki> hi, when my laptop starts up and shuts down there is a loud beep (Really loud) and when there is an error (backspace_
[18:29] <Aznerad> scunizi: yes, they have no clue that is the reason why i run them on linux it was a nightmare on windows before - the raid saved the system once till now
[18:29] <Matr|X> plz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/
[18:29] <suki> how do i remove the beep
[18:29] <jelly-bean> torpor: ok thnx
[18:29] <Matr|X> plz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/
[18:29] <shyam_k> the command line version of switching user?
[18:30] <shyam_k> i mean switching gui users..
[18:30] <graingert> shyam_k, sudo user
[18:30] <graingert> shyam_k, su user*
[18:30] <torpor> shyam_k: su - username
[18:30] <torpor> better to use su -
[18:30] <Kripz> Hi all.. i was wondering if someone could help me, i have a Dell Latitude D430, and i was wondering if the wifi would work on ubuntu before installing it.
[18:30] <Matr|X> plz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/
[18:30] <torpor> that way you get the new user environment too
[18:30] <Matr|X> plz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/
[18:30] <whattey> how do i remove residual configs in terminal, like u can in synaptic?
[18:30] <othellix> no help?
[18:30] <shyam_k> graingert: torpor i wanna start a second x session for another user..
[18:30] <markeo> torpor: sudo -i
[18:30] <Matr|X> plz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/
[18:30] <jeancalvin> how do i upgrade without wasting a CD/DVD?
[18:31] <shyam_k> graingert: torpor not just command line
[18:31] <Matr|X> plz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/
[18:31] <Polterge|st> update-manage -d
[18:31] <Polterge|st> is that correct ?
[18:31] <Matr|X> plz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/
[18:31] <markeo> jeancalvin:  sudo update-manager --dist-upgrade
[18:31] <commander__> does anyone have back in time?
[18:31] <Polterge|st> update-manager -d   even
[18:31] <torpor> markeo: no, sudo should only be used for superuser acces
[18:31] <zenit> .
[18:31] <Pici> !upgrade | Polterge|st
[18:31] <Aznerad>  suki:  check the post error codes of your bios manufactorer
[18:31] <Matr|X> plz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/
[18:31] <Polterge|st> ah
[18:31] <markeo> Polterge|st: nope, -d means 'dev version'
[18:31] <torpor> su - someuser is better
[18:31] <Matr|X> plz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/
[18:31] <Matr|X> plz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/
[18:31] <scunizi> Kripz: you need to run the live cd and see if it works.. also in the live cd you can open a terminal and type sudo lshw for a full list of your hardware.. your wireless card chipset will be listed.. with that info google or here might be able to answer that question better.
[18:31] <FloodBot2> Matr|X: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:31] <Polterge|st> ah ok
[18:31] <Polterge|st> I was wondering
[18:31] <Polterge|st> I seen the line from the launchpad site
[18:31] <Polterge|st> I guess that is latest unstable branch
[18:31] <Matr|X> plz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/
[18:32] <Kripz> scunizi can i pm you, it's pretty quicked paced in here.
[18:32] <Matr|X> plz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/
[18:32] <Pici> !repeat | Matr|X
[18:32] <Kripz> I'm finding it hard to be able to keep up lol
[18:32] <Matr|X> plz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/
[18:32] <Baconheart> my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is empty, is that normal in Jaunty?
[18:32] <suki> Aznerad: how? and why the bios?
[18:32] <graingert> torpor, that does not work
[18:32] <scunizi> Kripz: just using nicks in the line will highlight and make it easier to follow.. and others will learn as well.. not sure how much else I can do though.. wireless isn't my thing
[18:32] <torpor> Matr|X: you have not yet configured mysql  .. you need to write a .cnf file
[18:32] <trunkz> how does one make a .deb outta a compiled item?
[18:32] <Matr|X> yes plz
[18:32] <trunkz> I've just compiled libspe2 & installed it (make install)
[18:33] <suki> shouldnt it be the pcspkr? but ive tried to disable that too, but the loud BEEP sound is still there
[18:33] <trunkz> however dpkg still thinks libspe2 isnt installed
[18:33] <markeo> whattey: to remove residual configs try dpkg --purge <packagename>
[18:33] <Aznerad> suki:  the only thing that beeps on start up before the os gets loaded is the bios
[18:33] <trunkz> So I gotta install it via the .deb method
[18:33] <jojoman02> Baconheart: they are trying to get rid of the dreaded xorg.conf it's there just to override auto-detected settings now, therefore it's blank...
[18:33] <whattey> how come  /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-server/volatile shows up when i do df -h? seems like theres only wlan stuff in there that i dont need ;o
[18:33] <timi> I've moved to another appartment and I'm connected to the same ISP through cable. Same computer, no kernel upgrades or anything, but ubuntu simply won't detect the network. It works on windows. Any idea what may be wrong?
[18:33] <suki> Aznerad: after the OS has booted up , not before
[18:33] <pace_t_zulu> Baconheart: I think jaunty is capable of running without an /etc/xorg/xorg.conf
[18:33] <Matr|X> plz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/
[18:33] <Aznerad> suki: sorry my bad
[18:33] <suki> and when i press 'backspace' etc when there is no chars left
[18:34] <MikeData> Does anyone know where I can find the Atlantis 2 Plugin?
[18:34] <Kripz> scunizi: where can i obtain a ubuntu "live CD" ?
[18:34] <torpor> okay i'm leaving now
[18:34] <torpor> good luck everyone!
[18:34] <trunkz> Kripz, www.ubuntu.com
[18:34] <scunizi> Kripz: I just answered on the pm side..
[18:34] <Aznerad> suki: at which point deas this happens?
[18:34] <issa> Hello guys, how can i download kernel 2.6.27.7 while I have Jaunty?
[18:34] <trunkz> If someone is running jaunty here, can they do an apt-get for libspe2?
[18:35] <torpor> i will/exit
[18:35] <trunkz> I cant find that app,
[18:35] <timi> can someone help me set up networking? It used to work but now all of a sudden it doesn't...
[18:35] <whattey> can only find the documentation trunkz ;<
[18:35] <nivardus> anyone know why installation from CD might freeze up after language selection?
[18:35] <Matr|X> plz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/
[18:35] <trunkz> whattey, same.
[18:35] <Matr|X> plz help my pasteubuntu link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/156647/
[18:35] <trunkz> I've just compiled it
[18:35] <trunkz> but dpkg seems to think that its not installed.
[18:35] <peppo> is there a replacement for "Tracker"? I find its search functionality below-par. I.e. a folder called "Dunderklumpen.x.x.x.x" is not discovered when I search for "Dunder", only if I input the full string!
[18:35] <rapha> oh just found out, no hibernate on a ThinkPad T61 ... so I can do without that much swap
[18:35] <trunkz> so I'm assuming, I have to make a deb out of it
[18:35] <MikeData> Does anyone know where I can find the Atlantis 2 Plugin?
[18:35] <shyam_k> err sorry connection got break
[18:36] <Omarman> I have a Wubi question? Can I upgrade to Jaunty from inside my wubi installation? Will a simple sudo apt-get dist-upgrade work
[18:36] <Omarman> ?
[18:36] <Polterge|st> strange it told me that the upgrade would be cancelled because my system was up to date
[18:36] <trunkz> Omarman, yes
[18:36] <Polterge|st> and it still shows that there is an upgrade available
[18:36] <Polterge|st> I'm running 8.10 though
[18:36] <Omarman> Awesome.. thank you trunkz
[18:36] <trunkz> Polterge|st, do apt-get clean all
[18:36] <rapha> but how do you get Ubuntu to use a swapfile instead of a swap partition?
[18:36] <trunkz> then restart the process :)
[18:36] <MK13> Omarman: it should work
[18:36] <suki> how do i remove the loud system/error beep
[18:37] <TheFunkbomb> Hello sportsfans
[18:37] <Polterge|st> trunkz, I will let it try and download this upgrade tool again
[18:37] <trunkz> alright :)
[18:37] <Polterge|st> if it gives the same error again I will do the apt-get clean all
[18:37] <Polterge|st> thanks for the help
[18:37] <Polterge|st> :P
[18:37] <Baconheart> anyone know how to get 3d acceleration back after upgrade to Jaunty?
[18:37] <trunkz> Polterge|st, no worries. To be honest, I'd recommend people just do a fresh install
[18:37] <trunkz> saves alot of problems in the long run :P
[18:37] <Polterge|st> trunkz, that is always the most stable
[18:37] <chelz> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt - these links don't go to the torrent files but to actual ISOs, just like the regular links. someone might want to fix it
[18:37] <Aznerad> Matr|X: first of all, do you have the needed space left on the disk? are the rights ok in the folders it reports problems?
[18:38] <trunkz> DVDs are cheap now, so you can backup your pr0n directory ;)
[18:38] <chelz> i grabbed them okay from http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/
[18:38] <Polterge|st> in any case I can always update as the updates are released
[18:38] <Polterge|st> and surely bugs will be patched
[18:38] <MikeData> Does anyone know where I can find the Atlantis 2 Plugin? I tried to install Atlantis, but it says it can not find compiz and compiz is installed..
[18:38] <DrMrHorse> anyone have a problem installing moblock on then new jaunty (i know moblock isnt supported)
[18:38] <rapha> How do you get Ubuntu to use a swapfile instead of a swap partition?
[18:38] <trunkz> Polterge|st, correct :)
[18:38] <Polterge|st> I've not had any problems yet updating with the updater that couldn't be fixed so knock on wood, hopefully this will work out alright
[18:38] <Polterge|st> hehe
[18:38] <scunizi> !swap
[18:38] <issa> Hello guys, how can I download kernel 2.6.27.7 while I have Jaunty? The repos do not contain it .. can i mix two repos of two versions together?
[18:38] <markeo> Mike: IIRC Atlantis is in the unsupported plugins package
[18:38] <trunkz> I'm only running Ubuntu because its useful on my ps3
[18:38] <trunkz> nothing more :P
[18:38] <Polterge|st> Ubuntu has been very very good to me
[18:38] <trevligsnubbe> hey (new to irc) i upgraded and the sound turned REALLY low and theres no way to get it higher (as far as I can see)
[18:39] <weather15> How many people here have actually downloaded and installed 9.04 successfully?
[18:39] <trunkz> trevligsnubbe, you'll need to be more specific than that.
[18:39] <trunkz> weather15, me..
[18:39] <MikeData> markeo, understoof. Can you point me in the right direction?
[18:39] <trunkz> and I've got an obscure system :P
[18:39] <TheFunkbomb> Hmm update manager is not working :/
[18:39] <MikeData> Understood*
[18:39] <pi_m> Hi, how can I disable the new notifications?
[18:39] <Aznerad> weather15: +1
[18:39] <markeo> trevligsnubbe: start by doubleclicking the volume icon in your panel, that will get you more options
[18:39] <racecar56> torpor, E: Package linux-image-2.6.28-11-generic has no installation candidate
[18:39] <install_help_nee> has anyone else had trouble with Installer hanging up when resizing hard drive. This is 3rd time trying, I know it takes time. But im not on a slow computer. 3.6Gig quad core 8 gig ram. And its been doing it for 30 minutes....Just need help doing this...Reason for it is i have Vista installed. and i don't want to lose that.
[18:39] <racecar56> oops
[18:39] <racecar56> E: Package linux-image-2.6.28-11-generic has no installation candidate
[18:39] <markeo> Mike: I'm sorry, I'm mid-upgrade, I'm withou most of my tools at the moment o_O
[18:39] <scunizi> trevligsnubbe: lately I had that issue on 8.10 .. I found that for some reason on each reboot I had to go into alsa mixer (double click the speaker icon) and get the "Front and Side" mixers showing and turn them up
[18:39] <trunkz> Again, it would help us all if when you ask a question, you're a little more specific as to why x is not working.
[18:40] <trunkz> by x.. i dont necessarily mean xserver :P
[18:40] <trevligsnubbe> Dell D630 has run the 8.04 for a few months... sound was lower than XP but still acceptable, now upgraded to 9.04 and sound is almost gone...
[18:40] <jojoman02> pi_m: are they annoying?
[18:40] <MikeData> markeo, ok Thanks
[18:40] <jojoman02> pi_m: jw....
[18:40] <ubuntistas> iam in jaunty and radio doesnn't work
[18:40] <teadict> What do I use to burn .mdf files as DVD image?
[18:40] <ubuntistas> any clue?
[18:40] <Aznerad> install_help_nee:  how fragmented is the disk?
[18:40] <trunkz> weather15, try a mirror closer to you geographically.
[18:40] <trunkz> Or, should have got the RC yesterday like all the clever people ;)
[18:40] <pi_m> jojoman02: I prefer the previous system...
[18:40] <harisund> I am guessing us.archive.ubuntu.com is slow because of all the traffic bound to be generated today?
[18:41] <proq> trevligsnubbe: did you run alsamixer and turn it up?
[18:41] <install_help_nee> Aznerad: All that is on it is Vista. And the Vista install is only 2 weeks old...
[18:41] <loquitus_of_bor2> So how do I "upgrade" from Jaunty Beta to the full release that came out today?
[18:41] <trunkz> harisund, correct. have a cookie.
[18:41] <alinon> i take it nobody else is able to upgrade right now ? ;/
[18:41] <markeo> trunkz: there's no upgrade path from rc's to the release though
[18:41] <jojoman02> pi_m: imho the previous system was fugly, but i think there is  a way to get it back u should check forums
[18:41] <markeo> betas are an island unto themselves
[18:41] <zionpsyfer> !vlc > zionpsyfer
[18:41] <trunkz> markeo, there doesnt need to be one.
[18:41] <scunizi> loquitus_of_bor2: just do all your updates.. today might no be the best day for that though
[18:41] <trunkz> The RC is pretty much what you're going to get the next day.
[18:41] <LjL> alinon: a bad idea to upgrade right now that the servers are all hogged.
[18:42] <zionpsyfer> gah,  no workarounds for vlc?
[18:42] <loquitus_of_bor2> scunizi: so a full set of updates gets me to the "final release" stage?
[18:42] <scunizi> loquitus_of_bor2: yep
[18:42] <protocol1> thats what I thought too.....did my updates and nothing so I am good
[18:42] <LjL> !final
[18:42] <markeo> alinon: mine is underway, but it's stuck on file 8 of 1491 for the past 10 minutes
[18:42] <pi_m> jojoman02: I tried to google...
[18:42] <trunkz> what ubottu just said :)
[18:42] <Aznerad> install_help_nee: ok sounds bad. try an other bootdisk do resize you vista gparted has one if i am right and install ubuntu on the prepared disk
[18:42] <trunkz> I got the first alpha of jaunty on my ps3, and have just been keeping it up to date :)
[18:42] <racecar56> and command line irc clients?
[18:42] <racecar56> *any
[18:42] <whattey> irssi
[18:42] <trunkz> When the RC came out, just did a fresh install and stuck with it.
[18:43] <trunkz> racecar56, bitchx
[18:43] <rapha> what's faster, reiserfs or ext4?
[18:43] <alinon> markeo: i was over halfway done when it just stopped for no reason
[18:43] <iceroot> racecar56: irssi, bitchx
[18:43] <scunizi> racecar56: irssi for sure
[18:43] <LjL> racecar56:  irssi, weechat, tinyirc, tirc
[18:43] <install_help_nee> Aznerad: will do. Thanks for help.
[18:43] <pi_m> jojoman02: But no relevant results...
[18:43] <alinon> markeo: now i can't even get the upgrade tool lol
[18:43] <markeo> trunkz: Hrm, I remember reading distinct warnings about there being no direct upgrade for the rc  when it hit, perhaps I/they was/were misinformed
[18:43] <TheFunkbomb> so is everyone having trouble updating from the RC?
[18:43] <whattey> nop
[18:44] <markeo> rapha: probably xt4 but it's going to depend on your activity profile as well for the device
[18:44] <scunizi> rapha: not overly noticeable between the two but previously I thought that on SATA drives reiserfs was a little quicker.. just depends on what you're doing
[18:44] <alinon> markeo: my guess is all of the stuff i already have downloaded is just gone now :(
[18:44] <markeo> alinon: argh :(
[18:44] <TheFunkbomb> well then, I guess it's just me
[18:44] <scunizi> TheFunkbomb: of course.. the servers are hammered
[18:44] <trunkz> markeo, The release candidate is the release build, with perhaps one or two urgent bugs found during the 24hrs before release day.
[18:44] <markeo> alinon:  I'm about to give up myself for the moment heh
[18:44] <TheFunkbomb> scunizi, okay then
[18:44] <trunkz> If those bugs 'aren' there, then its the exact same build as the release.
[18:44] <jojoman02> pi_m: same... i would make a post in forums or answers in launchpad and wait.. :(
[18:45] <racecar56> naxa needs firefox update
[18:45] <alinon> i'm guessing it dont' keep any of the stuff already downloaded, because it's having me download the upgrade tool again
[18:45] <ectospasm> I noticed on my new Jaunty RC install (done last night, I haven't downloaded the new release yet) that Synaptic (or whatever) kept complaining about a partial upgrade... should I just download and install the full release?
[18:45] <rapha> scunizi: markeo: general desktop usage I'd say ... I love my laptop to boot quickly. It's not very often that I copy or move large amounts of data. I'd say if thinks started up a tad quicker I'd like that.
[18:45] <racecar56> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:45] <markeo> trunkz: nod nod. I just remember reading that because it's tagged differently it's not a part of the upgrade paths, once the release is out. Again I'm going on my hazy emory of reading something two weeks ago and recalling it now before I've had coffee, which does not bode well for accuracy :)
[18:46] <BobCFC> ectospasm, do the partial upgrade it's ok
[18:46] <scunizi> rapha: the file sys type won't make much difference in that anyway
[18:46] <trunkz> markeo, :)
[18:46] <ectospasm> BobCFC: so I won't be left in an intermediate state?
[18:46] <mohi> the dvd download page for kubuntu sayd the modified time is 21st of april! http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/ is it OK?
[18:46] <SliMM> how stable is kubuntu 9.04?
[18:46] <Maximo> rapha: so  you have so far with new ubuntu?
[18:46] <iceroot> ectospasm: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and the you have the final-version
[18:46] <Bilge> I don't really understand this "LTS" update system. I installed 8.04 hardy some time last year and since then intrepid and jaunty have been released and they get newer versions of software than I am apparently privvy to. Why do we get stuck with older packages?
[18:46] <zimbres> hi, I updated my firefox and now there is some dependencie problems, it cannot be initialized. What should I do?
[18:46] <ectospasm> iceroot: OK, got it.
[18:46] <alinon> you would think they would try to get more servers donated or something in prep for this upgrade
[18:46] <rapha> oh okay then ... gonna try out ext4 then just to see if any of the rumors about corruption are true
[18:46] <BobCFC> ectospasm, no, it just means it's more than a normal package update
[18:46] <scunizi> !latest | Bilge
[18:46] <ectospasm> Bilge: LTS is Long Term Support
[18:46] <rapha> Maximo: I'm still installing - the LiveCD works fine tho :-)
[18:47] <wallacejbj> hey guys does anyone know what command line you can use in terminal to find out what /dev my dvd burner is set to?
[18:47] <ectospasm> It's mainly for businesses who need a much more stable release cycle.
[18:47] <Maximo> rapha: never thought about it but you right livecd
[18:47] <BobCFC> ectospasm, like going from beta1 to beta 2, where a full didst upgrade is intrepid to jaunty etc
[18:47] <Bilge> Yes but if you claim that I am stuck with an older version because that makes my system more stable, why are you not also claiming that the newer distros are unstable
[18:47] <ectospasm> wallacejbj: you can try "ls -al /dev/dvd*"
[18:47] <markeo> rapha: for a desktop I'd guess that an optimized ext4 might be faster due to the newer extents model, but that's just reckless speculation on my part
[18:47] <lepassive> how can i set automatic mountpoint for a partition ?
[18:47] <Bilge> If a package is deemed stable then surely all distribution versions should now have access to it
[18:47] <dragoncheese> is there really any performance increase or benefit from using the 64 bit vs. 32 bit
[18:48] <bdubnc> Hey guys is anyone seeing the black screen on 9.04 when the livecd starts.  Thanks!
[18:48] <ectospasm> dragoncheese: larger memory words
[18:48] <iceroot> dragoncheese: no
[18:48] <danbhfive> Bilge: the point is, if you want newer packages, you should upgrade to later distros
[18:48] <wallacejbj> thank you ectospasm !!!
[18:48] <ectospasm> dragoncheese: the date command has a MUCH larger date space (millions of years vs. 38 yrs or so)
[18:48] <danbhfive> Bilge: thats the whole point of the new releases
[18:48] <magcius> Is us.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[18:48] <markeo> lepassive: do you mean a consistent automount point for a usb drive, for example, or do you mean just mount a partition on an internal drive automatically?
[18:48] <BobCFC> dragoncheese, only benefit of 64bit is to uses more than 3.5gb ram
[18:48] <rapha> markeo: well, trying it out can't hurt - I can always do a fresh install with good 'ole ReiserFS
[18:49] <scunizi> Bilge: things break .. it takes a lot of effort to backport new verson's of programs for the actively maintained releases.. the latest release is considered "bleeding edge".. there's lots of people that don't want bleeding edge because of the potential for breakage
[18:49] <magcius> It's timing out for me.
[18:49] <alinon> anyone here a fan of icewind dale 2?! i discovered last night it plays fantastically through virtualbox on XP
[18:49] <Pici> !ot
[18:49] <markeo> rapha: indeed, if you benchmark it a bit, you should share your findings :)
[18:49] <trunkz> How does one create a .deb package out of something i've just compiled?
[18:49] <Bilge> Right, so the bottom line is, if I want to upgrade just one package on my system, I actually need to upgrade the entire distribution first
[18:49] <trunkz> Gonna try this method, hopefully libspe2 will behave.
[18:49] <dragoncheese> ok.. cause in 32 bit ubuntu my .wmv files work fine but the 64 bit i have no audio so i'm thinking of switching my main comp back to 32 bit
[18:49] <scunizi> !checkinstall | trunkz
[18:49] <lepassive> markeo, like i've other partitions i get them mounted/umounted by click on the nautilus sidebar, but i want to set that mountpoint it's not present in /etc/fstab or mtab file (just only when it's mounted)
[18:49] <iceroot> Bilge: no
[18:49] <trunkz> awesome scunizi
[18:49] <graingert> dragoncheese, try, w64codecs
[18:49] <iceroot> Bilge: look at apt-pinning
[18:50] <danbhfive> Bilge: well no, you _can_ install later versions of a single package.  You just have to do it manually
[18:50] <prometheus765> hi, i installed ubuntu 9.04 rc couple days ago, do i need do something now, when final 9.04 jaunty is released?
[18:50] <Bilge> apt-pinning: command not found
[18:50] <rapha> prometheus765: it IS released already
[18:50] <iceroot> prometheus765: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:50] <iceroot> Bilge: google
[18:50] <scunizi> Bilge: or compile it.. sometimes you'll find it in a PPA on launchpad
[18:50] <thorn_> hi all
[18:50] <ectospasm> prometheus765: aptitude update && aptitude -y dist-upgrade
[18:50] <iceroot> Bilge: its not a command its a method
[18:50] <ectospasm> don't forget the update
[18:50] <alinon> did you guys noticed this upgrade automatically disables 3rd party distros?
[18:50]  * BobCFC loves PPAs
[18:50] <markeo> lepassive: right right, you'll need to manually add it to /etc/fstab
[18:50] <scunizi> alinon: typical
[18:51] <alinon> scunizi: why do some websites suggest you do it manually then?
[18:51] <ectospasm> alinon: that should be easily fixed by adjusting your bootloader
[18:51] <scunizi> alinon: because the 3rd party repo's are release specific.
[18:51] <funkyHat> anyone know if there's a printer status program for linux? (i.e. on windows, some printer drivers come with a helper app that pops up when the ink is low)?
[18:51] <lepassive> markeo, but there's no entries for it! how does it get mounted ?
[18:51] <alinon> like it's so important
[18:51] <BobCFC> Alinon you need to authenticate every repo now
[18:51] <covidiu> Hi. What happened to Compiz Config Settings Manager in Jaunty? I can't find the package... I have universe and multiverse enabled.
[18:51] <ectospasm> oh, you mean repos, not distros
[18:51] <markeo> lepassive: You should be able to copy an existing line and just modify it to oint to you other device/ountpoint (assuming the same filesystem type)
[18:51] <iceroot> funkyHat: depending on the driver
[18:51] <notplus_M> Is there any way for me to tell ubuntu what mirror to use for the dist-upgrade?
[18:51] <markeo> lepassive: That's nautilus doing some userspace mounting via FUSE
[18:51] <dragoncheese> is there anyway to get the 32 bit to use all of my 4gb of ram?
[18:51] <iceroot> funkyHat: look at the website from the manufactor for a driver
[18:51] <scunizi> alinon: the repo's you have listed were for the previous ubuntu release ..
[18:52] <prometheus765> ectospasm: i executed this, nothing was downloaded, looks like my system is up to date
[18:52] <iceroot> dragoncheese: yes, if you board supports PAM
[18:52] <iceroot> dragoncheese: then you can use more then 4gb ram with 32 bit (but max 4gb for one program)
[18:52] <alinon> **w00t i had to re-start this upgrade and it found the packages that had already been downloaded YAY!!
[18:52] <scunizi> dragoncheese: it does.. just like windows there is some overhead taken..  this is a 32 bit problem or occurance and not specific to ubuntu
[18:52] <Bilge> Take pcre for example. It's just a regular expressions library. I may well want to take advantage of the latest version.  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcre3 here you can see that as a hardy users I am still stuck with 7.4, but if I happened to install Ubuntu today, I would end up with 7.8. I cannot understand why 7.8 isn't just made available to everyone at the same time
[18:53] <rapha> Oh, "New Wave" looks real nice :-D
[18:53] <lepassive> markeo, sorry let me explain more /dev/sda6 /media/s4 fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0 is added automatically to the mtab file, i want to change /s4 part to someother option
[18:53] <scunizi> Bilge: because it might break other things that are looking for 7.4
[18:53] <magcius> Blubuntu FTW.
[18:53] <BobCFC> Bilge, it probably depends on new libs in Jaunty
[18:53] <Bilge> Newer versions of PCRE don't break old features though
[18:53] <Polterge|st> wow I'm on dialup and it claimed the upgrade would take 6 minutes on my connection
[18:53] <Polterge|st> then again I have the very latest 8.10
[18:54] <proq> Bilge: you can always build and install it from the source. that may make it clear why they didn't make it available
[18:54] <racecar56> lol?
[18:54] <markeo> lepassive: Copy that line into /etc/fstab, mkdir /mnt/foo, and change /s4 to /foo in the fstab entry
[18:54] <magcius> scunizi, you can have separate versions of the same library installed at once, you know that, right?
[18:54] <proq> Bilge: you may want to back up your system first though  :P
[18:54] <scunizi> Bilge: but they are not going through 25,000+ packages to determine what will break what for older releases..
[18:54] <prometheus765> ectospasm: i was wondering if everything is ok with my jaunty because in rc there was no tray notification about updated packages, even after executing sudo apt-get update there was something to update
[18:54] <markeo> lepassive: (where foo is the new mountpoint you want)
[18:54] <EdgEy> is there any "vulnerability" in using automatic login on ubuntu ?
[18:54] <vassalli> hei
[18:54] <lepassive> markeo, but there's not entry for it in the fstab!
[18:54] <racecar56> EdgEy, well... anyone could log in...
[18:55] <scunizi> magcius: yes.. but that isn't what's being asked.. he's just asking why the libraries aren't made available for older releases.
[18:55] <EdgEy> sudo etc will still ask for password right?
[18:55] <proq> EdgEy: sure... other people can log in as you
[18:55] <gaffy> Hello there, I have just installed Xubuntu and I am wondering about how to setup a remote desktop that you can view from Windows...
[18:55] <lepassive> markeo, i mean it's done away from the fstab file
[18:55] <proq> gaffy: take a look at vnc server
[18:55] <iceroot> !vnc | gaffy
[18:55] <markeo> lepassive: right, copy that automatically generated entry out of mtab and into fstab.
[18:55] <EdgEy> proq yes, i mean, remote logins will still need password etc right
[18:55] <EdgEy> and su
[18:55] <proq> does anyone know a good oss vmware equivalent for ubuntu, besides xen?
[18:55] <graingert> How can I list packages installed on my system by size?
[18:55] <majnoon> !ugrade
[18:55] <alinon> so that's good news, to anyone's upgrades that suddenly stop downloaded, there's a chance if you *re-start the upgrade that it will find the packages already downloaded
[18:56] <proq> EdgEy: yes, they will
[18:56] <graingert> proq, virtualbox
[18:56] <lepassive> markeo, then fstab should always mount it be default, and override the mtab one right ?
[18:56] <iceroot> proq: virtualbox-ose
[18:56] <Bilge> So are you saying that I am going to be stuck with older versions forever if I do not upgrade my distribution?
[18:56] <EdgEy> i'm not worried about people logging in that have physical access :)
[18:56] <markeo> lepassive: precisely :)
[18:56] <EdgEy> thanks
[18:56] <iceroot> Bilge: yes
[18:56] <majnoon> anyone have a url for upgrading ?
[18:56] <Chr|s> ubuntu.com
[18:56] <iceroot> Bilge: if you dont want to use backports
[18:56] <Turl> majnoon: use the system updater
[18:56] <billybigrigger> whats the best way to get a remote desktop login? i want to create a new system user that can login anywhere in the world and get their own X session, /home, and all that
[18:56] <scunizi> proq: virtualbox has 2 versions .. one in the repos and a non free version on thier site.. the primary difference is usb support.. there may be other things as well
[18:56] <markeo> lepassive: if you don't want it to moutn automatically, you can add 'noauto' to the options, but I'massuming you always want it mounted consistently
[18:57] <lepassive> markeo, but i don't want it to be automounted :( i just want mtab to set another mountpoint
[18:57] <rconan> I'm using intrepid... I've extended my RAID5 and now I get dropped to initramfs at bootup... strangest of all there don't seem to be the lvm2 tools on the initramfs so I'm not sure how it used to work...
[18:57] <majnoon> going to try to upgrade my wubi install
[18:57] <wers> i'm on a fresh install of jaunty. for some reason, i can't enable compiz. this never happened in older versions. i'm have an x3100. any idea why?
[18:57] <rconan> I checked that lvm2 is installed and regenerated initramfs and made no difference
[18:57] <alinon> majnoon: if you have ubuntu, just hit alt-F2, type update-manager -d in the field, then a button will appear asking if you would like to upgrade
[18:57] <proq> wers: maybe you need to look into having the proper video card driver installed
[18:58] <wers> proq, isnt intel x3100 supposed to work out of the box?
[18:58] <majnoon> worst case scenario i boot into windows and reinstall :)
[18:58] <racecar56>  
[18:58] <Bilge> The thing about apt-pinning is that it is intended to grab unstable and testing versions, but I am just trying to get the latest versions of what is deemed stable
[18:58] <Reenen> is anybody else having (or had) problems with Nvidia drivers?
[18:58] <proq> wers: I think most are, but problems are always a possibility
[18:59] <Baconheart> Reenen: i'm having ATI problems myself
[18:59] <wers> proq ok thanks
[18:59] <Reenen> my PC is in 640x480 (with drivers) and 800x600 without
[18:59] <danbhfive> alinon: it should be update-manager -c now, since its been released
[18:59] <trevligsnubbe> HEY ALL : First time on IRC, had hell of a trouble following the discussions, I think this is not for me :-S
[18:59] <scunizi> Reenen: what card do you have and which driver did you enable?
[18:59] <markeo> lepassive: ah ok. Sorry I was misunderstanding there. I'm hazy on this, but if it's an internaldrive I'd suggest the fstab entry with the 'noauto' option, and mount it from teh command line when you want it active. If it's a USB external disk you're talking about,  IIRC you will need to modify the udev mount rules for your drive, but I don't recall specifics... I do remember that it's googlable though
[18:59] <trevligsnubbe> But thank you anyway !!!
[18:59] <theuser1> $ ssh localhost
[18:59] <theuser1> The authenticity of host 'localhost (127.0.0.1)' can't be established.
[18:59] <theuser1> RSA key fingerprint is fe:00:7b:6b:e3:7a:51:d8:a3:ee:6c:89:e1:e8:44:4e.
[18:59] <theuser1> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? n
[18:59] <FloodBot2> theuser1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:59] <alinon> danhbfine: that's true, although it points to the same files either way now
[18:59] <LjL> trevligsnubbe: #ubuntu on release day is usually pretty hard to follow. try again in a couple of days.
[18:59] <_chun> I'm having a problem with the volume keys on my keyboard - they seem to be changing the headphone volume rather than the master volume. anyone help?
[19:00] <Reenen> I have nvidia geforce FX 5500 (AGP), and I enabled v 177.14.12
[19:00] <grawity> theuser1: And ... what is the problem?
[19:00] <markeo> lepassive: this is drifting out of my circle of confidence, I'm going to have to defer to wiser folk than myself though
[19:00] <celthunder> trevligsnubbe, give yqourself a chance...you'll get used to following your conversations and ignoring the ones that you dont understand
[19:00] <theuser1> grawity: You should be prompted to type your password, and you should get another command-line when you type your password in. If this works, then your SSH server is working properly.
[19:00] <aman> i didnt have any updates for the past two days !
[19:00] <nativeangels> can anyone here tell me why the mouse pointer would disapear in wine ?
[19:00] <_chun> (fixed, nevermind)
[19:00] <lepassive> markeo, no problem thanks so much for your help :)
[19:00] <Chr|s> so what does the desktop look like? I think it upgraded when I did an update, but not sure
[19:00] <aman> i have been using jaunty since alpha4
[19:00] <billybigrigger> whats the best way to setup a remote desktop user? like i want the new system user to have their own /home and what not and be able to login anywhere in the world, but not control my desktop, i want the remote user to seem like their running their own desktop, whats the best possible way of going about this?
[19:01] <grawity> theuser1: You should respond "Yes" to the "Do you want to connect" question.
[19:01] <aman> regularly updating, updated to RC ; but no updates after that ..
[19:01] <aman> is there any way i can confirm i am on the final release of 9.04 ?
[19:01] <markeo> theuser1: No, you should be prompted to type 'yes' if you want to ok the connection. SSH is asking yuou to verify that the connection key looks like what you pect the first time you connect to a new server.
[19:01] <grawity> theuser1: When connecting to any ssh server for the first time, your ssh client is supposed to ask user to verify the fingerprint.
[19:02] <markeo> aman: accoding to folks, if you do an apt-get up(date|grade) and don't get packages, you're golden
[19:02] <nativeangels> can anyone help me
[19:02] <stefg> billybigrigger: I'd look at NX
[19:02] <Chr|s> !ask | nativeangels
[19:02] <aman> markeo, i am sorry , didnt get that !
[19:03] <Glowball> Hi
[19:03] <TheFunkbomb> Update manager wants me to do a partial upgrade and then when I try, it says "error authenticating some packages"
[19:03] <Baconheart> anyone know why my ATI on-borad video doesn't do 3d accelleration after upgrade to jaunty?
[19:03] <theuser1> grawity: ok
[19:03] <cemc> after the upgrade to jaunty, update manager starts up instead of an icon appearing
[19:03] <Glowball> My sound isn't working
[19:03] <cemc> what's with tihat?
[19:03] <acr0nym> the ubuntu channel is so much more active today :)
[19:03] <Glowball> It wasn't in Intrepid, and I first hoped it would be fixed after updating
[19:03] <Glowball> But it isn't :(
[19:03] <minimec> Baconheart: what card?
[19:03] <alinon> TheFunkbomb: are you still working on upgrading to 9.04, or did you upgrade stall?
[19:03] <markeo> aman: if your update manager doesn't show packages when you click 'check for updates', then (ccording to folks here) you are running the release.
[19:03] <markeo> *latest release
[19:03] <proq> acr0nym: um... it's always this active  xD
[19:04] <TheFunkbomb> alinon, I have the RC
[19:04] <grawity> theuser1: Besides, if it asks "Are you sure you want to connect" and you reply "no", you shouldn't be surprised that it doesn't connect :)
[19:04] <theuser1> grawity: how wil i know that i am conected and ssh is working
[19:04] <theuser1> ?
[19:04] <acr0nym> nah according to my calculations we have 1.4 letters per line more today :P
[19:04] <aman> markeo,  hmm, okay thanks
[19:04] <protocol1> whats the console command to reconfigure my display?
[19:04] <grawity> theuser1: when sshing to localhost, it's harder to see ... use ssh -v localhost
[19:04] <proq> theuser1: you will run a command on that machine and see a result
[19:04] <sl00> Hi. Another computer and a different problem. Starting to get very tiredsome to install ubuntu in this office. SSo the problem now... monitor says "Out of range" and according to the manual that means "The input signal (horizontal frequency and refresh rate)
[19:04] <sl00> does not correspond to the technical monitor data.
[19:04] <sl00> But what can I do about that ?!
[19:04] <zippyfish> with wubi can i upgrade to 9.04
[19:04] <Baconheart> minimec: lspci says "ati es1000" it's onboard
[19:04] <alinon> TheFunkbomb: ah okay
[19:04] <grawity> proq: he's tryinc to connect to localhost.
[19:05] <billybigrigger> stefg, ya but i dont want to interfere with MY desktop, i want the remote user to be another system user, separate from my user, and local X sessions
[19:05] <proq> theuser1: you will see the successful login text message
[19:05] <majnoon> ok going to TRY a wubi upgrade :)
[19:05] <TheFunkbomb> I don't know what to do about it either
[19:05] <minimec> Baconheart: http://ati.amd.com/products/server/es1000/index.html
[19:06] <lepassive> i found it it's hal-mtab but i still don't know what to do
[19:06] <stefg> billybigrigger: i understand that... that's what NX is designed for: Terminal servers
[19:06] <theuser1> grawity:  proq thx
[19:06] <billybigrigger> stefg, ahh 10-4
[19:06] <minimec> Baconheart: 'The ES1000, ATI's next generation server Graphics Processing Unit'... '2D Graphics Accelerator '
[19:06] <theuser1> grawity:  proq will open ssh server runevery time i restart my pc?
[19:06] <TheFunkbomb> sigh
[19:06] <stefg> billybigrigger: https://launchpad.net/~freenx-team/+archive/ppa
[19:07] <grawity> theuser1: it should, yes.
[19:07] <theuser1> grawity:  ok
[19:07] <Baconheart> minimec: well.... it was way faster prior to the upgrade to jaunty
[19:07] <markeo> sl00: you might need to google up the specs for the monitor and enter them manually. I'm pulling from memory here (someone verify this please) but I think "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will let you specify refresh rate values
[19:07] <siefny> hi all
[19:07] <alinon> i had a launchpad account to submit bugs at one time, but then i started getting wierd messages from people on there
[19:08] <sl00> markeo: But how can I run that command when I cannot even start up the live CD ?
[19:08] <coz_> Baconheart,  what was faster?
[19:08] <markeo> sl00:  oh oops sorry, didn't atch the part about that being during the install. Alternate install CD perhaps?
[19:08] <acr0nym> sl00, did you do an md5 hash check on your live cd?
[19:08] <zippyfish> anybody experincing slow-ness on download fron main server
[19:09] <LumineX> Can somebody help me? Such options as Power off/Restart have disappeared from the menu toolbar after the update (Ubuntu 8.10)
[19:09] <alinon> ziPPYFiSH: oF CouRSe
[19:09] <yoasif> zippyfish: yes, everyone... use a mirror
[19:09] <coz_> zippyfish, for the cd iso?
[19:09] <mrwes> zippyfish: everyone is
[19:09] <sl00> acr0nym: It is actually a USB-stick(?)
[19:09] <jelly-bean> how do i install php-devel on ubuntu 8.10?
[19:09] <mrwes> zippyfish: use bitorrent
[19:09] <zippyfish> via package manager
[19:09] <acr0nym> yeah the same :) I mean on the .iso
[19:09] <jelly-bean> what is the package called?
[19:09] <sl00> acr0nym: Creating using UNetbootin (because no other program worked, not even Ubuntus own) and the 8.10 LiveCD
[19:09] <coz_> jelly-bean,  open synaptic and hit search type in php and look for the dev pacakges
[19:10] <wers> is there any other x3100 user here on jaunty? does compiz work for you out of the box?
[19:10] <coz_> jelly-bean, pho-dev maybe?
[19:10] <coz_> let me check
[19:10] <weather15> I really think that ubuntu download servers should be clustered so when you download a release you will get the least used server
[19:10] <Baconheart> coz_: the whole system... quite laggy now and xorg is utilizing 40-99% of my cpu
[19:10] <acr0nym> sl00, I used unetbootin too, but I stumbled twice on errors caused by a faulty iso
[19:10] <grawity> weather15: That's what BitTorrent is for, I think :/
[19:10] <jelly-bean> coz_: ya i use apt-cache search but its not in there
[19:10] <acr0nym> the md5 check definitely has to match
[19:10] <Baconheart> coz_: I'm just trying to figure out what is wrong
[19:10] <alinon> there's a p2p setup for upgrading, but it's still buggy
[19:11] <coz_> jelly-bean, yeah its there php5-dev
[19:11] <gaffy> Okay, I am a n00b. Is there someone there who would like to help me setup vnc4server on a Xubuntu machine?
[19:11] <jelly-bean> coz_: maybe i dont have the repo enabled. i am not seeing it. even when i saerch
[19:11] <radarman> anybody here on an eee 901/1000? my touchpad has stopped working
[19:11] <coz_> jelly-bean, gnome?
[19:11] <danbhfive> radarman: I have a 1000
[19:11] <agoole> do I need to upgrade to 8.10 before I can upgrade to 9.04 ?
[19:11] <jelly-bean> coz_: ya
[19:11] <MrDrini> I'm not on ubuntu, but I need to know what package installs beamer on latex in order to help a friend
[19:12] <coz_> jelly-bean,  system/administration/synatpic package manager
[19:12] <coz_> jelly-bean,  hit search  tyep in  pho5-dev
[19:12] <jelly-bean> coz_: i have that open too. yep did that. nothign comes up
[19:12] <coz_> jelly-bean, sorry  php5-dev
[19:12] <radarman> danbhfive: what kernel are you running?
[19:12] <stefg> gaffy: do you want an *independent* desktop for your logins or a remote desktop for your personal account ?
[19:12] <coz_> jelly-bean, ok hit the Settings menu and then repositories
[19:12] <sl00> acr0nym: 24ea1163ea6c9f5dae77de8c49ee7c03  ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso  ... seems correct
[19:12] <jelly-bean> coz_; right. there now
[19:12] <coz_> jelly-bean, first tab  make sure all four are enabled
[19:12] <siefny> this ver ubuntustudio-9.04-alternate-amd64.iso isw stable now ??
[19:12] <jelly-bean> coz_: they are
[19:13] <bhsx> howdy....   i just installed 9.04 with a fresh install...  I've used codeweavers crossover office for Wine for many years and hence haven't used vanilla wine...  is wine easy to use in 9.04 now that it's 1.0x?
[19:13] <ThePhil> hello, could anyone help me install 9.04?
[19:13] <coz_> jelly-bean,  ok hit the Reload button
[19:13] <acr0nym> oki
[19:13] <bhsx> is there a wine on 9.04 link somewhere ?
[19:13] <danbhfive> radarman: the mayor one sometimes, and the jaunty beta one.  On both of those, the touchpad worked.  I've yet to upgrade to jaunty final though...
[19:13] <TheFunkbomb> I went into software sources, do I need to enable some of these?
[19:13] <agoole> ThePhil: i'm in the same boat :P
[19:13] <coz_> TheFunkbomb, you can enable all of them yes
[19:13] <g4lv4tr0n> how do i change the DPI on screen so icons windows and text are smaller ?
[19:13] <LumineX> Can somebody help me? Such options as Power off/Restart have disappeared from the user switching applet menu toolbar after the update (Ubuntu 8.10)
[19:13] <stefg> !wine | bhsx
[19:13] <solstice> hi. i am always lost on ubuntu sites. is anyone can point me to the cd cover artwork for 9.04 ?
[19:13] <acr0nym> sl00, i just read your problem
[19:13] <ThePhil> agoole: not sure we have the same problem
[19:13] <TheFunkbomb> coz_, even the disabled ones?  I'm on 9.04 RC
[19:13] <coz_> jelly-bean,  then  try the search again for php5-deb
[19:13] <acr0nym> can you get into a terminal/shell?
[19:14] <coz_> TheFunkbomb, which disabled ones?
[19:14] <agoole> ThePhil: well, if you just want to upgrade to 9.04 right ?
[19:14] <g4lv4tr0n> how do i change the DPI of the screen my res is 1366x768 but everything takes up too much of the screen
[19:14] <bhsx> thanks
[19:14] <juanefren> bittorrent links of ubuntu 9.04 are not working
[19:14] <coz_> TheFunkbomb, if they say jaunty then enable them if they say intrepid no
[19:14] <acr0nym> you should be able to use xrandr to change your display configuration
[19:14] <stefg> juanefren: not true
[19:14] <proq> jelly-bean: you just need to apt-get install php5-dev
[19:14] <ThePhil> agoole: i want to format my 8.10 and install 9.04 from scratch
[19:14] <alinon> if you need to upgrade to 9.04 - hit alt-F2, type update-manager -c in the run box, hit run, wait for a button to appear that asks you to upgrade, follow the directions
[19:14] <TheFunkbomb> coz_, it says "disabled to upgrade to jaunty"
[19:14] <ThePhil> and i dont know how to
[19:14] <coz_> TheFunkbomb, was this an upgrade?
[19:14] <TheFunkbomb> coz_, yes
[19:14] <xerxes> Rezising xterm simply eats my cpu-Power and does a delay for min three seconds
[19:15] <gaffy> stefg: I simply want to be able to log into the machine to do minor tweaks remotely. So as long as I can edit configs and execute servers it's all good. I plan to set up a Warsow and perhaps a Ventrilo server...
[19:15] <jelly-bean> proq: E: Couldn't find package php5-dev
[19:15] <coz_> TheFunkbomb,  ok  can you pastebin   /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:15] <agoole> ThePhil: then simply download the cd image and burn it to a cd, and boot up from it
[19:15] <jelly-bean> coz_; waiting for refresh
[19:15] <acr0nym> ThePhil, you can format your 8.10 partition when you install 9.04
[19:15] <TheFunkbomb> okay
[19:15] <TheFunkbomb> !pastebin
[19:15] <coz_> jelly-bean, its probably going to take some time
[19:15] <sl00> acr0nym: Well.. only if it is possible to do from the LILO bootmenu because I cannot get further than that using "Try ubuntu" ot "Install ubuntu"
[19:15] <wers> what's the name of the x3100 driver?
[19:15] <proq> jelly-bean: sounds like your repository server might be down.  sudo apt-get update and try again maybe
[19:15] <ThePhil> acr0nym: how do i format and tell 9.04 to install over it?
[19:15] <xerxes> im using partition encryption
[19:15] <graingert> How can I list installed packages by size?
[19:15] <Idespnnr> is there a new ubuntu-netbook-remix release?
[19:15] <stefg> gaffy: so why not use plain ssh and a console ? .... afraid of the cli?
[19:15] <weather15> yes
[19:16] <jippie> hi all
[19:16] <sinelaw> Mazel Tov! Now how do I upgrade if i've already upgraded to the beta?
[19:16] <jelly-bean> ok brb waiting for refresh
[19:16] <TheFunkbomb> coz_, how do I do that?
[19:16] <acr0nym> ThePhil when you boot up the livecd follow the Install GUI it has an option to configure your partitions, you can change most of the things there
[19:16] <ThePhil> im in the live cd right now agoole
[19:16] <sl00> acr0nym: Can I get into a shell from LILO, try to fix the display somehow and the run the install?
[19:16] <juanefren> stefg: they work, but redirect to the iso download (not the torrent)
[19:16] <Idespnnr> is there an irc channel dedicated to ubuntu nbr?
[19:16] <Idespnnr> or any update info on it
[19:16] <juanefren> I am looking this ones http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[19:16] <ienorand> sinelaw: Automatic upgrades will do automatically
[19:16] <coz_> TheFunkbomb, ok open a terminal and tyep   sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  then open firefox and go to www.pastebin.com
[19:16] <acr0nym> sl00,  I'm not familiar with LILO, but you can always try
[19:16] <agoole> ThePhil: just run the install, but keep the same partition sizes, if they're alright
[19:16] <markeo> graingert: you're going to have to write a script to get the list of installed packages, dpkg -L each package, du each file, and sum it all up.
[19:17] <agoole> ThePhil: and format them
[19:17] <coz_> TheFunkbomb, then copy the contents of that file and paste it into the blank area on pastebin
[19:17] <grawity> coz_: gksudo gedit, is better for graphical programs.
[19:17] <stefg> juanefren: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[19:17] <coz_> thefish,   then hit the submit button and paste the link here
[19:17] <TheFunkbomb> coz_, yeah, I figured it out
[19:17] <graingert> markeo, I only want the top few
[19:17] <sinelaw> ienorand, ok
[19:17] <sl00> acr0nym: Hmm okey. So there is no obvious way to do it from the boot menu then?
[19:17] <acr0nym> sl00,  what kind of hardware do you have? perhaps this problem has been solved on the forums
[19:17] <coz_> graingert,  yes I am so used to using gedit
[19:17] <gimhalos> I just installed xp under vbox and the mouse isn't syncing well. When I move the mouse around it's choppy and inaccurate. Any ideas?
[19:17] <graingert> where are deb packages chached?
[19:17] <TheFunkbomb> coz_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/156675/
[19:18] <Idespnnr> gimhalos: did you install the guest additions?
[19:18] <Bilge> Why does launchpad.net generally fail to load
[19:18] <alinon> gimhalos: have you installed guest addtions?
[19:18] <gimhalos> Idespnnr: Nope... How would I go about doing that?
[19:18] <Ard1an> Where can i find java Development Kit (JDK) To Download ?
[19:18] <orudie> how is new ubuntu ?
[19:18] <stefg> juanefren: works for me... i get good spped for all iso-images
[19:18] <gaffy> stefg: I am willing to learn, it's all textbased, correct? What do you mean by "cli"?
[19:18] <coz_> TheFunkbomb,  ok that actually looks ok
[19:18] <Idespnnr> gimhalos: lemme check, 1 sec...
[19:18] <ThePhil> acr0nym: theres a manual install in which i can erase a partition but then i have to make a new primary, logical partition, i just want to point to the 8.10 and make it format and install, is that possible? (excuse my poor english)
[19:18] <BobCFC> orudie, faster and more refined
[19:18] <stefg> gaffy: command line interface
[19:18] <agoole> Ard1an: just run a search for it, aptitude search java
[19:18] <markeo> graingert: or alternatively the script can do an "apt-cache info" for each installed package and grep for 'Installed Size', that's the only place I know where the info is listed and that's likely to be inaccurate, as it's the size as distributed, not after you make any changes you make
[19:19] <g4lv4tr0n> hi i was using juanty rc does it automatically upgrade to jaunty final case update-manager -d does nothing ???
[19:19] <grawity> gaffy: "CLI" is command-line interface, the thing you get when you open Terminal.
[19:19] <Idespnnr> gimhalos: start the virtual ubuntu machine
[19:19] <markeo> graingert: but you're asking for a clik-or-single-command-way to do this, and it's not there.
[19:19] <TheFunkbomb> coz_, but it won't let me run update manager.  It says it can't authenticate
[19:19] <jippie> i've installed kubuntu 9.04 with the latest updates. I have a problem with my desktop which hangs every now and then. I think I found a solution. It requires an x.org update
[19:19] <Pici> !final | g4lv4tr0n
[19:19] <jippie> How can i update my x.org installation when there is no update available from "add and remove software" yet?
[19:19] <Morclye> I'm installing SB X-Fi driver to Jaunty but I don't understand what and how I need to edit header file, needed information is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/156676/
[19:19] <coz_> TheFunkbomb,  are you already updated to jaunty correct?
[19:19] <sl00> acr0nym: I have not found anything regarding this via google.com
[19:19] <Idespnnr> gimhalos: when it boots up, in the Vbox window, do Devices -> install guest additions
[19:19] <TheFunkbomb> coz_, yes
[19:19] <juanefren> stefg: for me works as direct download not torrent download... how ever 8.04 links works as fine as torrents
[19:19] <acr0nym> ThePhil, yes it is possible, I can't remember how it looked out of my head, but you should be able to go into advanced settings somewhere, specifiy the partition you want to use (rightclick with your mouse)
[19:19] <coz_> TheFunkbomb,  ok  close synapitc  if its open and open a terminal
[19:19] <gimhalos> idespnnr: Thanks, I'll do that now
[19:19] <coz_> TheFunkbomb,  sudo apt-ge
[19:19] <sl00> acr0nym: Maybe I can edit the xorg.conf or something on the USB-stick before ?? Do not know where to look tho?
[19:19] <ralmar> Hey guys I have a little problem with firefox and torrents. Even though I have Deluge set as my default torrent client when i try to download a torrent file from firefox it only asks me if i want to open it with Transmission. Deluge is not on the list and i dont know how to ad it because i dont know where the executable file is. In windows I know it would be in C:/Program Files/Deluge/Deluge.exe (with backlashes) any help? Thanks
[19:19] <markeo> jippie: if you don't have updates showing, then there aren't updates available.
[19:19] <Idespnnr> np
[19:19] <stefg> gaffy: so if it's just editing configs you'll be better off to use just ssh... you can even tunnel a X remote session by ssh -X ... but that'S quite bandwidth-hungry
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[19:20] <Comrade> How do you make apache in ubuntu use another index other than the one in /var/www?
[19:20] <g4lv4tr0n> cool :)
[19:20] <coz_> TheFunkbomb, sudo apt-get update  then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:20] <graingert> markeo, wajig large does it
[19:20] <agoole> Ard1an: if you open up the console,
[19:20] <harnak> Wondering if someone using a fresh install can paste the ls of /etc/fonts/conf.d/  (I've screwed up my fonts and I want to start over )
[19:20] <sl00> acr0nym: Like change the default video mode it uses for the install.
[19:20] <sl00> ?
[19:20] <gaffy> stefg: Of course it is a bit scary... Not knowing how they work you are oftenly bound to hit a wall.
[19:20] <agoole> Ard1an: type that in, and it will look among all the packages for java related ones
[19:20] <markeo> ralmar: open a terminal and type "which deluge"
[19:20] <graingert> markeo, that's shut you up 'aint it
[19:20] <BobCFC> ralmar, browse to /usr/bin/deluge
[19:20] <jippie> markeo: x.org themselves have a newer version, but it is not available in ubuntu package mgmt
[19:20] <CydeWeys> Oh God, the updater is prompting me to restart.
[19:20] <hbekel> ralmar: man which
[19:20] <CydeWeys> I will see you guys on the flip side, in Ubuntu 9.04
[19:21] <CydeWeys> (Assuming my system boots; if it doesn't, I'll have to go visit it later tonight.)
[19:21] <acr0nym> sl00, that used to be possible, not sure if it still works the same way since xorg.conf is now generated
[19:21] <coz_> CydeWeys, good luck there guy:)
[19:21] <markeo> graingert: so you're askign the anser to a question which you already know, and giving me grief because I didn't know the magic answer?
[19:21] <g4lv4tr0n> how do i change the dpi of my screen ???
[19:21] <acr0nym> sl00, I still think there should be an easier way to your problem
[19:21] <alinon> i wish we could get free distro's on disc on the mail during every cycle ;)
[19:21] <techqbert> Quick Q guys: how stable does 9.04 look? 0-10?
[19:21] <TheFunkbomb> coz_, step one is good.  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is waiting
[19:21] <alinon> *in the mail
[19:21] <markeo> jippie: I would have strong recommendations against trying to build your own X packages, that's asking for a world of hurt
[19:21] <stefg> gaffy: know DOS, know NC? then you can run 'mc' on a ssh console.... good old (TM) two pane fole manger and an editor that easy to comprehend
[19:21] <ralmar> markeo, BobCFC, hbekel, thanks
[19:21] <jojoman02> g4lv4tr0n: you can go to appearance under settings
[19:21] <joaopinto> !tpoll | techqbert
[19:21] <jojoman02> g4lv4tr0n: then fonts
[19:21] <joaopinto> !poll | techqbert
[19:21] <ljuwaidah> fuck me! i downloaded 8.10!!! stupid!
[19:22] <sl00> acr0nym: Seems kinda hard when I cannot make any changes using LILO options.
[19:22] <Comrade> How do you make apache in ubuntu use another index other than the one in /var/www?
[19:22] <TheFunkbomb> !language
[19:22] <joaopinto> !language ljuwaidah
[19:22] <Pici> ljuwaidah: Please mind your language in this channel.
[19:22] <jippie> markeo: my world hurts already, every few hours my system crashes
[19:22] <acr0nym> sl00, you downloaded the .iso, checked the md5 sum, used unetbootin to put it on a usb, you boot from the usb...
[19:22] <jojoman02> ljuwaidah: lol, download using torrent it's wayy faster
[19:22] <scunizi> !language | ljuwaidah
[19:22] <BobCFC> ralmar, you only have to do it once then FF remembers
[19:22] <acr0nym> sl00: where exactly do you get stuck?
[19:22] <incorrect> should i wipe my system and start again? or should I upgrade?
[19:22] <TheFunkbomb> coz_, it's not connecting to the ubuntu server :/
[19:22] <jojoman02> !torrent
[19:22] <coz_> TheFunkbomb,  the dist-upgrade is going to be slow because everyone is hitting the servers
[19:22] <gimhalos> idespnnr: Thanks :) That fixed everything.
[19:22] <alinon> weather15: is that free?
[19:22] <TheFunkbomb> coz_, I figured as much
[19:22] <ljuwaidah> sorry
[19:22] <graingert> markeo, no, I found it out myself
[19:22] <Ard1an> agoole Look  at PrivatMessage Please :$
[19:22] <g4lv4tr0n> i want to change dpi though so it changes the windows sizes and icon sizes too
[19:22] <agoole> is the ext 4 filesystem worth a clean format ?
[19:23] <hocine21> Hello word !
[19:23] <gaffy> stefg: I have a bit of DOS experience, yes... still, how do I set this ssh up?
[19:23] <markeo> graingert: lol :) fair enough
[19:23] <ljuwaidah> it's just frustrating knowing i wasted the past 3 hours downloading 8.10!!!
[19:23] <jojoman02> agoole: from what i hear, yes, there might be minor bugs though...
[19:23] <stefg> gaffy: give it a try... 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server mc' on the server-machine , then just 'ssh <your server ip> form your desktop...
[19:23] <Shenny> Hello, is there an alternative for Nero burning rom (windows) in Ubuntu ? : I want to burn an audio CD
[19:23] <joaopinto> agoole, if you are looking for performance, yes
[19:23] <scunizi> !ssh | gaffy
[19:23] <alinon> cool thanks, last i seen i thought i had to pay
[19:23] <agoole> jojoman02: minor bugs eh, such as ?
[19:23] <dade`> youtube is down
[19:23] <negge> I'm currently on Intrepid and thinking about upgrading to Jaunty. I have an Nvidia GeForce 9400GT graphics card and I'm using the version 180.xx of the proprietary driver. Will this driver work after upgrading or do I have to wait a few weeks ?
[19:23] <jojoman02> agoole: lets see if i can get u an article....
[19:23] <joaopinto> Shenny, the default cd burner that comes with Ubuntu allows you to burn audio cds
[19:23] <dade`> vmmouse does not sync with host os using ubuntu 9.04 as guest <- who can help ?
[19:23] <jippie> Shenny: try k3b
[19:24] <BobCFC> agoole, yes I was so impressed I did all my data drives too. lots of copying lol
[19:24] <scunizi> negge: should work but you'll have to reinstall it
[19:24] <TheFunkbomb> coz_, can I just leave terminal open and wait?
[19:24] <sl00> acr0nym: After I select "try ubuntu..." or "install ubuntu" from the bootmenu it loads for awhile. Then the "out of range" comes up and I cannot do anything. I do get the orange loading bar for aqhile so some video mode should work. However I know I got 720x(something) on another monitor but then I could not install because the windows got outside the screen (could not press buttons etc).
[19:24] <sl00> acr0nym: So I need a mode higher than that atleast.
[19:24] <negge> scunizi: okay but there's a new version that works with the new X server version then?
[19:24] <Luminex> Do somebody have trouble with "user switch apllet"? I can't find items "Power off", 'Restart"
[19:24] <coz_> TheFunkbomb, you could sure  but guesses are it is going to take some time I would try later or tomorrow
[19:24] <weboide> negge: I'm using 180.44 on Jaunty right now, and it works, I have effects working.
[19:24] <scunizi> negge: did you install the driver from the ubuntu repos or direct from a download off the nvidia site?
[19:25] <joaopinto> Luminex, those options show fine here
[19:25] <TheFunkbomb> I'll just wait.  I have nothing better to do with my life
[19:25] <Shenny> joaopinto i tried but it doesnt give me any choice (to choose convert mp3's to Audio like in Nero)
[19:25] <negge> weboide: okay sounds great, guess I'll start upgrading tonight then.
[19:25] <agoole> BobCFC: yeah I was trying ot avoid copying all my data, haha
[19:25] <BobCFC> Luminex, did you install the alpha Jaunty, they changed it part way through
[19:25] <acr0nym> sl00, can't think of a solution out of my head but I'll google maybe I'll find something
[19:25] <xerxes> Any X11 geek here?
[19:25] <joaopinto> Shenny, ah, you want to convert to mp3, tha is another story
[19:25] <negge> scunizi: I installed it the "normal" way through System -> Admin --> Hardware drivers so I guess it should all go smoothly
[19:25] <sl00> acr0nym: Okey.. thanks
[19:25] <juanefren> stefg: It works now, I don't understand what was happening, thanks
[19:25] <markeo> jippie: If you're running the eye candy, turn it off and install the nonfree drivers for your video card :)   But seriously, the xserver is something astoundingly complex in its package hierarchy; I've been using *n?x OSes for close to 20 years and I cringe when the thought of compiling X comes up :)
[19:25] <joaopinto> !mp3 | Shenny
[19:25] <scunizi> negge: should .. if you did as weboide did then you'd probably have to reinstall
[19:26] <topriddy> Please which chm reader should I use on ubuntu
[19:26] <zimnyx> Hard drive diode in my laptop blinks almost all the time, how can I check what process is using hard disk?
[19:26] <markeo> jippie: Imagine doing brain surgery. Blindfolded. On the back of a jetski. That's in freefall out of the back of a plane. While drunk. That's what building out your own set of X packages will probably be like :)
[19:26] <BobCFC> topriddy, CHMsee
[19:26] <pacejr> zimnyx: try iotop
[19:26] <stefg> !info iotop | markeo
[19:26] <genii> sl00: Use kernel option of vga=XXX where XXX is some number combination for the resolution you need. A small chart of them is here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/blog/archtoad6-147095/2007/12/29/vga-resolution-codes-for-grub-and-lilo-830/
[19:26] <jojoman02> agoole: it's mostly theoretical bugs, i don't think you'll have problems, it's stable in kernel, so i say go for it...
[19:26] <negge> scunizi: and he did it how?
[19:27] <joaopinto> zimnyx, if your system is idle, looking at top could help, whatever is the process is probably also using CPU
[19:27] <ienorand> harnak: I'm not on a completely fresh install but afaik I have not edited any fonts configs... I've packed the contents of the conf.d directory, you want?
[19:27]  * markeo points at zimnyx 
[19:27] <agoole> ok
[19:27] <agoole> so a clean install it is....
[19:27] <scunizi> negge: he has a driver that he downloaded direct from nvidia.. you don't have to worry about that... yet
[19:27] <agoole> ugh
[19:27] <weboide> I have a regression from intrepid. My cdrom drive is not usable with nautlis/cdrecord/wodim and cannot be mounted. hwinfo -cdrom gives me accurate info on it though.
[19:27] <GleepGlop> What are the correct permissions for /tmp   ?
[19:27] <proq> jelly-bean: you're going to be waiting a long time it seems... the servers are all very busy today
[19:27] <zimnyx> joaopinto: It was the 1st thing I did, but CPU is idle.
[19:27] <agoole> I added more ram, so I should resize the swap I guess
[19:27] <jelly-bean> proq: ya it sucks
[19:28] <sl00> genii: But it seems to be a refresh-rate problem. I have tried vga=771 which is 800x600x256colors... that should work everywhere IMO
[19:28] <BobCFC> agoole, I don't even have a swap anymore
[19:28] <jelly-bean> proq: it worked tho
[19:28] <topriddy> not gnochm... I'll have to quit then
[19:28] <proq> jelly-bean: there are probably some mirrors no one knows about
[19:28] <markeo> zimnyx: also if you want some io stats over time, install the 'atsar' package and use 'sar' to look for the IO stats
[19:28] <ienorand> http://www.mibbit.com/up/WtqGz4pO.gz << harnak
[19:28] <acr0nym> sl00, if I remember you can press tab at grub to change the boot options
[19:28] <jelly-bean> coz_: it works thnx
[19:28] <nepse> ayone else getting "Error reading boot CD" from the latest release?
[19:28] <acr0nym> can you try that?
[19:28] <zimnyx> markeo: thanks.
[19:28] <agoole> BobCFC: why not ?
[19:28] <incorrect> ext4 seems to tempting
[19:28] <coz_> jelly-bean, cool
[19:28] <sl00> acr0nym: Yes I know that (I thought it used LILO btw) but I do not know what option to set :)
[19:28] <markeo> that will at least give you a benchmark of what the true IO is, because you may actually just be seeing a lot of acive filesytem cleanup going on
[19:28] <sidewalk> how do i get my nvidia card working in jaunty?
[19:28] <kole> so im told jaunty is out now... im running the RC and update manager says nothing... how do I upgrade?
[19:28] <BobCFC> agoole, try as I might I can't fill the ram up, even with VirtualBox getting 2gb lol
[19:28] <incorrect> is anyone here using ext4?
[19:29] <sidewalk> with them nvidia drivers
[19:29] <negge> scunizi: okay
[19:29] <acr0nym> sl00, have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers
[19:29] <danbhfive> !final > kole
[19:29] <GleepGlop> What are the correct permissions for /tmp dir anyone?
[19:29] <agoole> BobCFC: how much ram are you using ?
[19:29] <acr0nym> try one of those numbers
[19:29] <agoole> BobCFC: I have about 2.5 gigs,
[19:29] <bytor4232> quick question, can't I just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change intrepid to jaunty, then run apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade?
[19:29] <gaffy> stefg: okay, now I am at a prompt called gaffy@GAFFY-servers~$ By the way, did you mean I should input "ssh <server IP>" from the a client computer?
[19:29] <stefg> gaffy: right
[19:29] <BobCFC> agoole, I used to have 8gb but a stick broke I have 6 temporarily
[19:29] <markeo> BobCFC: I can suggest an application or two to help with your "lack of necessity of a swap partition" problem, like Eclipse :D
[19:29] <danbhfive> bytor4232: no
[19:29] <topriddy> Can I know why my Ubuntu doesnt Hibernate please???
[19:29] <sl00> acr0nym: Yes I will but still... that only changes resolution. BRB gonna try some of them out
[19:30] <BobCFC> markeo, hehe java apps will do it yes
[19:30] <theuser1> grawity:  proq is it cumpulsory to use port 22 for ssh or i can use an other for security.?
[19:30] <agoole> BobCFC: damn, so I should stick with some swap, just to make sure,
[19:30] <graingert> topriddy, what version of nvidia drivers do you have
[19:30] <graingert> topriddy, assuming you are an NV man
[19:30] <markeo> BobCFC: Yes sir, yes sir they will indeed heh
[19:30] <gaffy> stefg: I only have windows clients...
[19:30] <stefg> gaffy: so you connect to the remote machine by ssh (secure shell)...  ssh user@remote-machine
[19:30] <BobCFC> agoole, yes sorry when you said added more I thought you meant a lot sorry
[19:30] <grawity> theuser1: You can use any port -- change in /etc/ssh/sshd_config -- but it doesn't add any real security.
[19:30] <orudie> how can i update ubuntu server from 8.10 to9.04 ?
[19:30] <stefg> gaffy: get putty
[19:30] <stefg> !puuty
[19:30] <stefg> !putty
[19:31] <theuser1> grawity: why so. why not any addirtional security?
[19:31] <stefg> gaffy: that's a ssh client for win machines
[19:31] <genii> sl00: Suggest to use then perhaps the Alternate install CD, which has text based install system
[19:31] <racecar56>  
[19:31] <bytor4232> okay, i'll run:  do-release-upgrade
[19:31] <bytor4232> on debian I've always just changed the release name.
[19:31] <agoole> BobCFC: I would, except i'm hoping to ditch this rig soon, so I just got enough to last me
[19:31] <Rapachooie> so where are the complaints about 9.04
[19:31] <grawity> theuser1: There are tools such as 'nmap' that can check all ports on your system and see what's running on them, in only ~5 minutes.
[19:31] <Rapachooie> :)
[19:31] <markeo> theuser1: because it takes a hacker about 12 seconds to find any open port and what app is running on that port
[19:31] <danbhfive> !upgrade > orudie
[19:32] <graingert> Rapachooie, dunno
[19:32] <danbhfive> !notes > Rapachooie
[19:32] <toughbook> anyone can help ? http://www.pastebin.ca/1401188
[19:32] <BobCFC> the new livecd boots of a cheap usb flash-drive faster than windows of a HD now, amazing
[19:32] <theuser1> graw
[19:32] <graingert> markeo, and? it's not like you can do much with them if you know that
[19:32] <m0RrE> haha
[19:32] <m0RrE> BobCFC: that
[19:32] <theuser1> grawity:  markeo ok
[19:32] <majnoon> does jaunty have wubi included also //
[19:32] <majnoon> ??
[19:32] <grawity> theuser1: So if someone has chosen your PC as his target, changing port won't add any protection.
[19:32] <m0RrE> sthat's becaus windows sucks
[19:32] <markeo> theuser1: moving services around is considered "security through obscurity" which is kind of like parking your car but instead of locking the doors you tape a paper bag over the handle in the hopes the thief is too stupid to peel back the tape :D
[19:32] <sl00> genii: Yes that is an option... sad one though :) I have had some kind of resolution problem on all computers I have tried to install on. Kinda sucks :(
[19:32] <sidewalk> how do i get them nvidia drivers working in Jaunty?
[19:32] <r3z> !final > r3z
[19:32] <markeo> (it just doesn't work)
[19:32] <acr0nym> toughbook, not sure what you are trying to do but did you use sudo?
[19:33] <jb> does anyone have dual video cards working in 9.04 with xrandr 1.3?
[19:33] <majnoon> !wubi
[19:33] <Rapachooie> :) i had 2 major problems and I think ill wait a week or so til updates are released
[19:33] <theuser1> grawity:  markeo ok.
[19:33] <Rapachooie> jb: I cant even get an x3100 working
[19:33] <toughbook> acr0nym: installing wacom
[19:33] <pacejr> any r300-r500 users upgraded yet?
[19:33] <majnoon> is wubi included in 9.04 ??
[19:33] <BobCFC> sidewalk, it should popip asking you after a few mins, if not goto System->Admin->Hardware Drivers
[19:33] <the_dark_warrio> I will make a fresh installation of Ubuntu. My HD is divided in the following way: 1 partition for /root and another one for /home. My user was ian-beta, so all my files are in /home/ian-beta. I`m going to create the user /home/ian for this new installation. My question is: can I delete the ian-beta folder after installing? will it break anything?
[19:33] <sidewalk> BobCFC: nothing happens when i go there
[19:34] <danbhfive> the_dark_warrio: you won't break anything, you will just loose all your settings and files
[19:34] <genii> sl00: You may want to consider getting a better monitor, which can do the refresh rates your card is producing
[19:34] <Idespnnr> the_dark_warrio: not if its a fresh install. And if you dont mind loosing files
[19:34] <markeo> the_dark_warrio: as long as you never need to log in as the old user for any purpose and you've copied over your important files to the new homedir, nope, no problem.
[19:34] <jb> i need to figure out how to use 2 video cards
[19:34] <minimec> pacejr: updated a r350 radeon 9600. 3D Acceleration is ok. Compiz is buggy. I have random system freezes.
[19:34] <jb> 3 monitors
[19:34] <jb> :/
[19:34] <stefg> the_dark_warrio: copy it over and 'chown' the directory
[19:34] <lucax> big issues with intel x3100 on jaunty and some times it doesnt even shutdown...
[19:34] <markeo> stefg++ for copy 'n' chown
[19:35] <zubuntu> hello.everybody i wanna use Ubuntu in internet cafe .how to use it?please help
[19:35] <acr0nym> toughbook, did you try ./configure before doing a make ?
[19:35] <toughbook> yep
[19:35] <the_dark_warrio> danbhfive: Idespnnr: markeo: stefg: thanks for the tips!
[19:35] <BobCFC> is it an old nvidia card? you might have to search for your model in particular for help then
[19:35] <pacejr> minimec: were you using fglrx in 8.10?
[19:35] <minimec> pacejr: Jaunty wasn't usable with my ati x1250. The driver was not capable to display 1680x1050
[19:35] <theuser1> grawity:  markeo iam trying to connect to my ip my self. but its stuck on Connecting to 116.71.188.237 [116.71.188.237] port 22.
[19:35] <ayilmaz1> i am running shell-fm in gnome-terminal under profile named "shell-fm". how can i manipulate the terminal window title for that profile from commandline?
[19:35] <toughbook> im following this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-956536.html
[19:36] <markeo> zubuntu: make a bootable usb install, there are docs out there ont he net to do so, but I'll be surprised if they let you reboot a cafe machine
[19:36] <Tr4sKouiLLe> Hi :)
[19:36] <BG__> #ubuntu-fr
[19:36] <toughbook> using the 8.10 guide on 9.04
[19:36] <markeo> theuser1: Is that your IP?  If you're sure (check the output of '/sbin/ifconfig'), then try 'iptables -L'
[19:36] <pacejr> minimec: the mode wasn't detected? did you add it to your xorg.conf manually?
[19:36] <minimec> pacejr: Yes I use INtrepid with fglrx on the system with the x1250. I use the official ati driver from the amd/ati homepage. The newest and last is 9.3 with included indirect rendering. I use dirver 9.2.
[19:37] <markeo>  theuser1: (to see if you have firewalling rules applied)
[19:37] <toughbook> i know there is the new wacom xorg thing but cant get it calibrated correctly
[19:37] <firsm> Anyone know how to move/drag a gnome panel to the second monitor?
[19:37] <harisund> people .. how do I start into non-graphics mode and execute GDM when I want it? Back in the day it had something to do with editing an inittab file to change default run level to 3 instead of 5 ..
[19:37] <markeo> theuser1: also, look at /etc/ssh/sshd_config and make sure that the ListenAddress isn't set to just 127.0.0.1
[19:37] <jb> so annoying that 2 video cards still won't work :)
[19:37] <jojoman02> toughbook: i think there is a tutorial somewhere online, google for it
[19:37] <Jdban> Where can I find the checksums for 9.04 (netbook remix in my case)
[19:38] <markeo> firsm: just drag it
[19:38] <orudie> i have never seen so many people in this channel before
[19:38] <firsm> markeo: that's not working, can't drag it
[19:38] <rski> orudie: always extra people around releasetimes
[19:38] <brandonmpace> lol I've seen more
[19:38] <BobCFC> firsm, press Alt and drag
[19:38] <jojoman02> orudie: that makes 2 of us, i think we're all hear for new ubuntu release, this is like a virtual release party, lol...
[19:38] <majnoon> this downloading SLOOOOOOOOW
[19:38] <majnoon> !ot
[19:38] <firsm> BobCFC: thanks, that worked.
[19:38] <markeo> firsm: you have to drag from a place where there are no apps/buttons, with the left mouse. I just did it, but then I'm still mid-upgrade to 9.04
[19:38] <minimec> pacejr: I tried the Live CD of jaunty ajckalope and added 'Virtual 1680 1050' as Subseciton Display in Section screen. That gave me 1680x1050, but the 'image-quality' wasn't good.
[19:39] <theuser1> markeo: what should be the listen address instead of 127.0.0.1
[19:39] <grawity> theuser1: 0.0.0.0
[19:39] <markeo> I would be surprised if it changed but it's possible
[19:39] <firsm> markeo: the alt key did it, thanks.
[19:39] <BobCFC> markeo, they changed it you have to press alt now to drag
[19:39] <lucax> i upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 and have problems with intel X3100 gma and shuting down the system if I do a clean install will that be solved?
[19:39] <harisund> Anyone? How do I boot into text mode only without starting GDM? Where's /etc/inittab these days?
[19:39] <Sooke> Hi All
[19:39] <pacejr> harisund: IRC, debian and ubuntu start x at runlevel 3, redhat and family start it at runlevel 5.
[19:39] <theuser1> grawity: why is that so?
[19:39] <grawity> !upstart | harisund
[19:39] <issa> Hello guys, how can I download kernel 2.6.27.7 while I have Jaunty? The repos do not contain it .. can i mix two repos of two versions together?
[19:39] <harisund> ah there we go ... thanks grawity and pacjr .. let me have a look at that
[19:39] <markeo> theuser1: just comment out the ListenAddress lines and ssh will listen on all network interfaces
[19:39] <Luiswu> any netatalk gurus on?
[19:39] <grawity> theuser1: 0.0.0.0 means "listen on all interfaces"
[19:39] <BobCFC> markeo, firsm you can also use Alt to move a window if you can't see the titlebar
[19:39] <Sooke> I upgraded from 8.10 32 bits to 9.04 using the updater and after all the process and booting, I still have the same as before, any clue?
[19:40] <grawity> theuser1: Just comment out all the ListenAddress lines.
[19:40] <minimec> harisund: When GRUB starts, hit the ESCkey and start in recovery mode
[19:40] <mcasadevall> That's freaking lame
[19:40] <firsm> BobCFC: ah that's good to know, thanks for the tip
[19:40] <Sooke> Same Kernel, same Ubuntu version and same Gnome version ¿?
[19:40] <markeo> theuser1: after making that edit don't forget to restart the ssh daemon with /etc/init.d/ssh start"
[19:40] <brandonmpace> Sooke: do a clean install. it's always best
[19:40] <harisund> minimec: that's not what I want .. I have tried that. I don't want recovery mode.
[19:40] <grawity> markeo: 'restart'
[19:40] <harisund> minimec: What I want is to boot into the terminal, not into the GDM login screen
[19:40] <markeo> woops ty grawity
[19:40] <dronix> what is v9.04 name?
[19:40] <pacejr> minimec: how bad are the crashes with the 9600?
[19:40] <markeo> the fingers are still not following the brain, I should go get coffee
[19:40] <whattey> jaunty something
[19:40] <Sooke> brandon_m_pace, that's what I was afraid, however if it is so unastable why the updater is still working for that?
[19:40] <sidewalk> seriously, how do i get my nvidia working properly? :-)
[19:40] <grawity> dronix: Jaunty Jallow, I think.
[19:40] <jojoman02> dronix: jaunty jackalope
[19:41] <grawity> Ah, right.
[19:41] <sidewalk> do i need to install envy?
[19:41] <sv_osusr1> is it possible to compile compiz without xgl acceleration support?
[19:41] <dronix> thank you
[19:41] <Jdban> Where are the checksum values online for 9.04?
[19:41] <minimec> harisund: so <ctrl><alt>F1 ;)
[19:41] <jojoman02> Jdban: torrent.ubuntu.com has them
[19:41] <theuser1> grawity: markeo ok
[19:42] <jojoman02> Jdban: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[19:42] <minimec> pacejr: Froma simple X-restart to a complete system freeze. COmpiz is buggy. Without compiz, I don't have any problems.
[19:42] <synnax> hi, can maybe somebody help me plz. I tried to install the new Ubuntu with a live-CD. It actually started correctly, asked me for the language and what I wanted to do (Live-CD boot, install etc) but when I choose to boot Ubuntu without installing, it starts, but then it seems to have a problem with the gpu or something. It doesn't dislpay correctly, actually it only shows some coloured...
[19:42] <synnax> ...vertical lines. Someone knows what to do? Would be very thankful. (Btw, I had once installed Ubuntu correctyl on this pc without problems)
[19:42] <Sooke> BUT a CLEAN installation means to lose all the data
[19:42] <harisund> minimec: That is not the fix, is it. That still has GDM running in the background. I just did a /etc/init.d/gdm stop and I am now reading how to stop services from starting thanks to the upstart document someone provided earlier.
[19:42] <theuser1> # Change to no to disable tunnelled clear text passwords
[19:42] <theuser1> #PasswordAuthentication yes
[19:42] <theuser1> ?
[19:42] <grawity> theuser1: Don't touch that yet.
[19:43] <racecar56> you made a secret IRC chabnnel
[19:43] <racecar56> *channel
[19:43] <theuser1> grawity:  ok
[19:43] <jojoman02> synnax you gotta mess with the param in the beginning, there is a Function key that gives you a list of options i would look online with ur gpu because most likely other users have similar problem and have a solution
[19:43] <frostburn> greetings, I've upgraded to 9.04 and gfs no longer works, infact i can't even start gnome-terminal I'm getting the" error: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so: undefined symbol: g_vfs_icon_get_type"   launchpad is down too =(
[19:43] <Shortguy109> Does anyone know why my mic isn't working for skype? it used to before i got the new KDE thing :o
[19:43] <alinon> HMM iT GoT QuieT
[19:43] <acr0nym> Shortguy109, define new KDE thing :P
[19:44] <Shortguy109> ummm
[19:44] <Shortguy109> i'll ask my brother
[19:44] <Shortguy109> xD gimme a sec
[19:44] <synnax> ok, I'll look for some informaiton, thx jojoman02
[19:44] <alinon> anyone finding that the launchpad server is getting pounded / not working atm?
[19:44] <markeo> synnax: try running 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and enable use of the framebufffer, that may work for you
[19:44] <alinon> i can't order a cd from shipit :(
[19:44] <thorn_PL> hi all
[19:44] <racecar56> hi
[19:44] <harisund> neither is us.archive.ubuntu.com or something working for me, alinon
[19:44] <acr0nym> Shortguy109,  go into terminal, type "alsamixer" and look if you can put a microphone setting there higher
[19:44] <markeo> alinon: yes, they are aware and working on it
[19:44] <st3ve-0> Hi everyone, when I go to open up the package manager I get and error message saying "Could not initialize the package information"  "An unresolvable problem occurred while initalizing...  Can anyone help me fix this problem?
[19:44] <sourcemaker> fucking shit... how can I configure my wlan interface via command line?
[19:44] <Shortguy109> okay
[19:44] <alinon> markeo: thanks
[19:45] <markeo> st3ve-0: servers are getting pounded by a few million concurrent users :)  Just keep trying
[19:45] <acr0nym> Shortguy109, you can use tab to switch between settings
[19:45] <minimec> sourcemaker: iwconfig
[19:45] <harisund> ok guys. I want to know what exactly the term "upstream" means .. I keep seeing it everywhere but have no idea...
[19:45] <dt3k> sourcemaker: iwconfig
[19:45] <thorn_PL> anybody can tell me how to install skype on ubuntu 9.04 amd64 ?
[19:45] <st3ve-0> ok ty
[19:45] <alinon> looks like a few people must have finished upgrading hah ;) my download speed is steady at 48.7kb/sec now
[19:45] <acr0nym> man iwconfig :P
[19:45] <alinon> thorn_PL: sure
[19:45] <theuser1> grawity:  markeo cant log in . dont know why
[19:45] <Shortguy109> how do i know which one's the mic?
[19:45] <pacejr> minimec: thanks. it's lame that there's a gap between the dropped support in fglrx and the new radeon driver stack coming to the end user
[19:45] <acr0nym> Shortguy109, look for "capture"
[19:45] <thorn_PL> alinon :)
[19:45] <sourcemaker> dt3k: i tries this a add this to the /etc/network/interface config
[19:46] <theuser1> grawity:  markeo iam using my own pc as server and as client.
[19:46] <Shortguy109> i see that
[19:46] <Shortguy109> 3 of them
[19:46] <acr0nym> now press the up arrow
[19:46] <grawity> theuser1: Have you restarted sshd?
[19:46] <tjohnson> rg
[19:46] <Shortguy109> turned all 3 up to 100 :)
[19:46] <acr0nym> put them all up till it works
[19:46] <acr0nym> :)
[19:46] <Shortguy109> wud it work now? :o
[19:46] <acr0nym> only one way to find out :)
[19:46] <sourcemaker> dt3k:  like wireless yes
[19:46] <sourcemaker> wireless-essid WLAN-ID
[19:46] <minimec> pacejr: I agree, but I guess (hope) that there are better days to come for us.
[19:46] <stefg> harisund: upstream is the developers, or debian in case of ubuntu... the raw material that gets packaged and tweaked to form a distribution ....
[19:46] <Shortguy109> kk! thx very much
[19:46] <sourcemaker> dt3k: and so on... but no connection possible
[19:46] <erUSUL> harisund: the vanilla kernel from kernel.org managed by Linus Torvalds is the "upstream" of the modified ubuntu kernel. The gnome released by gnome.org is the upstream of the (modified) gnome packages that form ubuntu
[19:46] <theuser1> grawity:  ya. * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd
[19:47] <markeo> theuser1: did you see anything u nder the INPUT chain when you typed "iptables -L"?
[19:47] <stefg> !debian | harisund
[19:47] <danbhfive> anyone know anything about the lpia alternate cd of jaunty?
[19:47] <Ben90> hi
[19:48] <sidewalk> how do i get my nvidia working fully in Jaunty?
[19:48] <sidewalk> do ineed to use envy?
[19:48] <loafers> When I upgrade to 9.04 and restart the computer will my volume be reset?  Because I'm in class right now and I would hate to have it blast everyone's ears
[19:48] <theuser1> markeo: ya many things in input
[19:48] <markeo> sidewalk: no, there's a Hardware Drivers panel under theSystem->Administration menu
[19:48] <Baconheart> anyone know why my xorg is running at 99% of my cpu?  proformance is crap after upgrade to juanty.
[19:48] <orudie> which irc client do you guys use that automatically puts a : at the end of the nick ?
[19:48] <harisund> stefg and erUSUL so upstream is where the software is obtained from, before being modified for use in Ubuntu? Does that mean if I download an upstream package (as in from source and then compile it) it might behave differently compared to the one I would have otherwise obtained through apt-get?
[19:48] <ipc> ree
[19:49] <sidewalk> markeo: but my graphics driver doesnt show up there
[19:49] <grawity> orudie: irssi, Xchat, almost all do that.
[19:49] <zanberdo> I'm looking for the cli equivalent for 'software sources'. I'd like to have my system try various sources, find the best one, and update sources.list, but this is for a server with no gui
[19:49] <stefg> harisund: right...
[19:49] <grawity> orudie: Type "gra" and press Tab.
[19:49] <sidewalk> i have a GeForce 8600M GT rev 161
[19:49] <Jdban> my checksum of the ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix said 1 error, is it safe to install it?
[19:49] <orudie> grawity, yeah i know about tab, using xchat it puts a comma
[19:49] <jippie> i installed like a week a ago from 9.04 beta alternet CD. The system largely works fine, but where is mij /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[19:49] <yoasif> orudie: using irssi here
[19:49] <Ben90> i want to know what would make my system just black out and just go back to the log-in screen
[19:49] <grawity> orudie: I think it can be changed easily.
[19:49] <harisund> stefg all right thanks
[19:50] <weather15> Anyone else having a slow download of 9.04?
[19:50] <stefg> lol
[19:50] <alinon> hrm kronix has 2 clones O.o
[19:50] <orudie> grawity: changed
[19:50] <psyt7h> having a problem installing jaunty using a live usb. nothing happens when I try to boot it. anyone here experiencing this behaviour?
[19:50] <bardun> weather15: i guess it would depend what mirror you're using
[19:50] <BobCFC> orudie, goto Settings->Input Box, Nick Completion Suffix
[19:50] <bauerbob> hi
[19:50] <Ben90> can someone please help me?
[19:50] <markeo> theuser1: does it have lines with port numbers, IP addresses and the like, o is it all just stuff like "Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)" and "target   prot opt source   destination"?
[19:50] <theuser1> grawity:  markeo what can e wrong
[19:51] <alinon> just ask ben90
[19:51] <danbhfive> zanberdo: maybe apt-spy?
[19:51] <r3z> Ben90, if your screen dumps you back to a login after going balck it sounds like X is crashing.
[19:51] <markeo> sidewalk: is the box for enabling non-free drivers checked?
[19:51] <bubba> hi, how can i install ubuntu netbook remix?
[19:51] <JockyWilson> Cloning a ext4 inode 256 partition.... is clonezilla now able to handle the new ext4 inode 256 format
[19:51] <Ben90> alinon, when im doing something that involves the internet or file transfer my system blacks out and goes back to the login screen
[19:52] <Ben90> alinon, how do i fix that
[19:52] <orudie> is irssi free ?
[19:52] <theuser1> markeo http://pastebin.com/m324e3cae
[19:52] <rski> orudie: yes
[19:52] <Ben90> alinon, it only happens when i use the linux -lowlatency kernel
[19:52] <orudie> gonna try it now
[19:52] <bauerbob> Ben90, why do you use the lowlatency kernel?
[19:53] <alinon> have you checked the forums and bug reports already?
[19:53] <jippie> why is my /etc/X11/xorg.conf empty?
[19:53] <markeo> theuser1: You have firewall rules which should be allowing traffic there
[19:53] <bauerbob> jippie, because recent xorg versions don't need it anymore
[19:53] <Ben90> my system gets really choppy on the standard kernel
[19:53] <rapha> YAY!! Got it installed :-)))
[19:53] <markeo> theuser1: specifically lines 44&45
[19:53] <lemmy> Hi, I've just upgrade to 9.04 and not X freezes and I can't even revive the system with sysrq key (e.g. killing x). I just see a garbaged startup screen after x flickering a couple of times before.
[19:53] <JockyWilson> anyone cloned a ext4 inode256 partition and what clone program worked for you?
[19:53] <bauerbob> Ben90, it's a desktop computer, isn't it?
[19:53] <lemmy> s/not/now
[19:53] <stefg> jippie: because xorg turned into a smarta??
[19:53] <jippie> bauerbob: then is it still possible to add changes to xorg.conf??
[19:53] <negge> upgrading to Jaunty is incredibly slow at the moment... :(
[19:54] <rapha> Looks & feels very smooth so far ... mobile broadband was as easy as pie
[19:54] <zanberdo> danbhfive, sorry, no apt-spy
[19:54] <Ben90> yes its a dell optiplex gx110 desktop pc
[19:54] <grawity> bauerbob: Does 8.10's Xorg still need it? Because when I installed Ubuntu Minimal and then installed X, it didn't work until I created an xorg.conf
[19:54] <alinon> Ben90: not too familiar with that issue ben90, sorry
[19:54] <nihilstar> hi guys, any problems updating from 8.10 to 9.04? :-)
[19:54] <danbhfive> zanberdo: yeah, its a debian package
[19:54] <Ben90> ok
[19:54] <bauerbob> jippie, yes, you can provide a xorg.conf and xorg will use it
[19:54] <theuser1> markeo i have added port 22 for ssh in the allow list of firestarter. what else should i do ?
[19:54] <lemmy> and starting init 2 apparently doesn't work with upstart anymore.
[19:54] <woot> What the hell ? I Just Installed  9.04. There are not any ackage to download !! I cant apt-get install xchat .. And deluge and many many others :x
[19:54] <CydeWeys> Woohoo!  It booted!
[19:54] <stefg> nihilstar: yup... finding a mirror that's not overloaded :-)
[19:54] <markeo> theuser1: Is your linux box your NAT router for the rest of your network as well?
[19:55]  * rapha goes to find out if usplash-smooth works for Jaunty
[19:55] <negge> alinon: I can't speak for myself yet but here's a list of potential problems, might be worth checking it out: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904
[19:55] <bauerbob> gravity: dunno. i'm still on 8.10 and i have a xorg.conf, but it dates from 8.04 or 7.10
[19:55] <nihilstar> stefg, hehehe :-D
[19:55] <jippie> bauerbob: but i guess if i provide an xorg.conf, it needs to be complete? can I generate a working version?
[19:55] <woot> Help :)
[19:55] <theuser1> markeo:  i dont have a network. just a router (dsl modem) and my pc
[19:55] <markeo> theuser: that should do it, honestly. If you can have firestarter open and look at its blocked attempts tab when you try to connect, firestarter will show it to you and you can quickly add it in to your rules as well
[19:55] <sidewalk> do i need to load the nvidia driver myself? it seems that the nv driver is loaded?
[19:56] <Ben90> bauerbob?
[19:56] <bauerbob> Ben90, i don't think you should use the low latency kernel if your system is choppy with the default kernel. must be a reason to be choppy and you should repair the issue
[19:56] <petia> asdf
[19:56] <negge> woot: what exactly happens? Does it say it can't find the packages or does the download itself fail?
[19:56] <markeo> theuser1: Looks like you have your networking configured to do NAT translation and forwarding like a NAT router, you might want to undo that if you know how you enabled it :D
[19:56] <petia> logout
[19:56] <Ben90> bauerbob, how would i go about repairing that said issue?
[19:56] <petia> exit
[19:56] <stefg> sidewalk: do you have a really old nvidia card (like Ceforce 4 or TNT?)
[19:56] <negge> sidewalk: if you mean the proprietary Nvidia driver, you do it from System --> Administration -> Hardware drivers
[19:56] <Xore|work> hello, i can find the MD5SUMS for the dvd images, but cannot find the MD5 sums for the cds. can anyone point me in the right direction?
[19:57] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: noone will talk to me so i'll try it out later xD
[19:57] <BobCFC> petia, try /quit
[19:57] <markeo> theuser1: I'm sorry if i'm not helping with the specifics, but I'm still in the process of upgrading and don't know the 9.04 environs at all yet
[19:57] <theuser1> markeo:  i should disable nat from my router?
[19:57] <orudie> irssi not as user friendly as xchat yeah ?
[19:57] <bauerbob> jippie, yes ...there's some app that creates one ...uhm... don't remember the name. xorgconf or something like that
[19:57] <acr0nym> Shortguy109, you can talk with the test echo skype :)
[19:57] <Shortguy109> ohhh
[19:57] <Shortguy109> kwl i shall try that
[19:57] <devdavad> It seems Apache2 has somehow taken over my lighty install. Has anyone else had this problem?
[19:57] <rapha> no usplash-smooth in Jaunty :-(((
[19:57] <alinon> 41 MiNuTeS ReMaiNiNG To uPGRaDe!!
[19:57] <Jeruvy> Xore|work: they should be in same file on a mirror?
[19:57] <bauerbob> Ben90, i'd start looking into the output of dmesg
[19:57] <SRabbelier> Is it inappropriate to ask questions here wrt installing VMWare tools in Ubuntu 9.04?
[19:57] <Ben90> ok 1 sec.
[19:57] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: actually, how do i do that? xD
[19:57] <devdavad> like when I start my comp apache2 takes over port 80
[19:57] <markeo> theuser1: OH
[19:57] <negge> alinon: "About 7 hours remaining" here
[19:57] <tomatopaste> hi all
[19:57] <grawity> orudie: irssi vs Xchat is like vi/emacs vs gedit :)
[19:58] <ectospasm> 'sup y'all
[19:58] <tomatopaste> how are the download speeds on the upgrade so far?
[19:58] <alinon> holy cow negge hehe
[19:58] <theuser1> markeo:  OH ?
[19:58] <grawity> orudie: Some people want more than just user-friendliness.
[19:58] <MarkG> Hi, I have Ubuntu Jaunty RC, can I just run Update Manager to get the latest packages, or do I need to do something more?
[19:58] <alinon> negge: don't feel too bad :P i had my download stop on me all together at one point!
[19:58] <negge> tomatopaste: my speed atm is 32 kb/s. My max normally is around 800kb/s so it's pretty slow:/
[19:58] <markeo> theuser1: what's going on: your router is NAT'ing, and you're trying to connect to your public IP, which your DSL router is most likely NOT configured to forward to for connections on port 22
[19:58] <ectospasm> grawity: yeah, but XChat/gedit can't bake you cookies
[19:58] <acr0nym> Shortguy109 :) startup skype, login with your info, double click on skype test call
[19:58] <bauerbob> tomatopaste, i could download the alternate iso @ full speed from a local ftp mirror
[19:58] <negge> alinon: hehe that's bad
[19:58] <BobCFC> orudie, irssi is is the terminal no buttons. It's cool but hard to notice when you get a PM because it doesn't flash
[19:58] <TheFunkbomb> coz_, okay, I'm all up to date.  The only issue now is that when I open Update Manager, I have Brasero in there but it's grayed out
[19:58] <thingy> \o/ Yay!
[19:59] <tomatopaste> thanks negge and bauerbob
[19:59] <markeo> theuser1: you have to configure your DSL router, if it's providing a natted address for your machine, to port forward port 22 to your machine
[19:59] <ectospasm> BobCFC: you can always have it play sound events
[19:59] <Ben90> bauerbob, im gonna pastebin the output alright?
[19:59] <theuser1> markeo:  dont know man. h
[19:59] <irritatedskin> How can I run a command that is already running in a terminal window without restarting the process?
[19:59] <coz_> TheFunkbomb,  that one I am not sure of
[19:59] <clyde> how can i upgrade from ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 ?
[19:59] <yaaar> howdy
[19:59] <bauerbob> Ben90, yes
[19:59] <JDShewey> MarkG: apt-get dist-upgrade will put you on full release
[19:59] <grawity> BobCFC: But it can be configured to flash. (And it should by default.)
[19:59] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: it says problem with audio playback :(
[19:59] <LordKow> TheFunkbomb: does it ask you if you want to do a partial upgrade?
[19:59] <oliver_g_> hi
[19:59] <alinon> if you need to upgrade to 9.04 - hit alt-F2, type update-manager -c in the run box, hit run, wait for a button to appear that asks you to upgrade, follow the directions
[19:59] <ectospasm> I'm still trying to figure out how to get it to play sound events through the SSH tunnels I use.
[19:59] <clyde> how can i upgrade from ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 ?
[19:59] <bauerbob> clyde, "sudo update-manager"
[19:59] <theuser1> markeo:  ok
[19:59] <acr0nym> ah ok
[19:59] <clyde> ok thanks
[19:59] <theuser1> brb
[19:59] <TheFunkbomb> LordKow, I already got past that
[19:59] <stefg> MarkG: as far as i've read the the relaease handles ext4 mounting differently... so if you didn't alter the default ext3 filesystem a simply update should be fine for you
[19:59] <CydeWeys> Oh great, there's a Clyde here.  that won't get confusing.
[19:59] <BobCFC> ectospasm, yes if I go away i want it to still flash when i'm back
[19:59] <LordKow> TheFunkbomb: which mirror are you using?
[19:59] <acr0nym> Shortguy109, go into the skype options, it's at the bottomleft
[19:59] <orudie> 1800 users wow
[19:59] <ljuwaidah> yey!
[19:59] <TheFunkbomb> LordKow, beats me
[20:00] <florin_> hello , i have this video card on fujitsu siemens amilo 2727 , for ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10 all was ok , never request driver or something , but now in jaunty i cannot enable desktop effects
[20:00] <ljuwaidah> it turns out i downloaded 9.04 but burnt 8.10!
[20:00] <florin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156700/plain/
[20:00] <ectospasm> BobCFC: XChat is not navigable by the keyboard alone.
[20:00] <orudie> i'm thinking about installing ubuntu desktop
[20:00] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: went into options
[20:00] <oliver_g_> minor download problem: the alternate-iso torrent link (http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent) is redirected to the iso itself (to http://d2j60aaoklmkol.cloudfront.net/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso) - is that intended?
[20:00] <BobCFC> ectospasm, grawity  no doubt it is cool with screen though
[20:00] <acr0nym> go into sound devices
[20:00] <HBX> hey is it me or is the upgrade to jaunty slow over the net
[20:00] <markeo> theuser1: When you type '/sbin/ifconfig -a' if you get the IP address you had up above, or is it something like '192.168.x.x' or '172.16.x.x' or '10.x.x.x'?
[20:00] <eseven73> ljuwaidah, lol ive done that a few times
[20:00] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: now what ? :o
[20:00] <Ben90> bauerbob, go to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d259164e2
[20:00] <acr0nym> what are your options set to?
[20:00] <harisund> Nowadays isn't it better to use aptitude than apt-get? as in apt-get update being replaced with aptitude update, and similarly aptitude upgrade and aptitude full-upgrade or something/
[20:00] <wiB3> hi guys
[20:00] <wiB3> i screwed my ubuntu
[20:00] <florin_> someone help to activate it?
[20:00] <thorn_PL> hi
[20:00] <acr0nym> just default?
[20:00] <Marfi> HBX: Ubuntu just came out. Did you really have to ask that?
[20:00] <clyde> yes yes..i see the upgrade button ..thanks a lot :))
[20:00] <yaaar> hi everybody. i just did a fresh install of 9.04 using the alternate disc so as to setup software raid 0. i'm pretty darn sure i did the partitioning right, but when i reboot after installation it just drops me at busybox, saying there was no /dev/md0 ...but when i go to /dev and list the dir, the md0 device is right there. anybody know what's wrong here?
[20:00] <orudie> can i run windows and ubuntu desktop at the same time with support of full hardware such as video and audio ?
[20:00] <LordKow> TheFunkbomb: go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources and change the "Download from" to something else.
[20:00] <HBX> jaja
[20:01] <HBX> yea i did
[20:01] <wiB3> i ran update-manager to do the dist upgrade and my link is very skippy so the update fail
[20:01] <alinon> LoL wiB3
[20:01] <markeo> welp I think he figured out how to disable NAT on his router
[20:01] <acr0nym> Shortguy109, try changing around the options in there and click on the button make a test call to see if it works now
[20:01] <wiB3> i decided to use update-manager-text so i apt that, realizing it get python2.6 too
[20:01] <myself> hey so i have ubuntu 9.04 BETA what is the best way to upgrade to the STABLE 9.04 version?
[20:01] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: okay, thanks
[20:01] <wiB3> and now i can't run any of update-manager-* even i edited the shebangs
[20:01] <LordKow> myself: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[20:01] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: on the sound devices?
[20:01] <ljuwaidah> eseven73: it's good to know i'm not alone
[20:01] <JDShewey> myself: apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:01] <myself> JDS what about what LordKow said?
[20:01] <acr0nym> Shortguy109, yep
[20:02] <LordKow> myself: both work
[20:02] <HBX> whats faster the cli to upgrade or the gui
[20:02] <stefg> yaaar: set up a non raid /boot partition ... prolly the raid takes to long to be assembled, so the initrd doesn't find the root-fs
[20:02] <myself> okay, and that will actually install it completely into the stable version?
[20:02] <alinon> 2 clones from noren :P
[20:02] <Idespnnr> myself: the best way would be to wait a day or so... servers are really slow right now...
[20:02] <LordKow> myself: yes
[20:02] <Shortguy109> IT WORKED
[20:02] <Shortguy109> :D
[20:02] <pvvni> Yo anyone know what the deal is with the new screen in 9.04
[20:02] <myself> hmm i see
[20:02] <pvvni> The new tabs are nice
[20:02] <bauerbob> Ben90, is your whole system choppy or is maybe only X choppy? (graphics, maybe 2d/3d)
[20:02] <stefg> yaaar: and you should really rethink if raid-0 is worth it
[20:02] <BobCFC> HBX same, it runs CLI in background you can even click show terminal
[20:02] <pvvni> but I have no idea what each of the numbers are for, and they arent listed in the man file
[20:02] <hardcampa> servers arn't slow
[20:02] <yaaar> stefg; actually, that's the way i have it setup already. / is a raid, /boot is only on one disc
[20:02] <wiB3> does running dist-upgrade upgrades to jaunty?
[20:02] <Krypto_> are the Torrent download links on ubuntu.com a known issue?... they lead to direct .iso downloads instead of a .torrent file when you click on them, even though hovering over them the status bar says .torrent
[20:02] <HBX> fuck its majorly slow
[20:03] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: the call worked, but my voice didn't
[20:03] <acr0nym> Shortguy109 cool :)
[20:03] <acr0nym> ah ok
[20:03] <myself> but to do it, i would type sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade  or apt-get dist-upgrade?
[20:03] <hardcampa> just change server if it's slow
[20:03] <LordKow> i highly recommend torrents
[20:03] <acr0nym> still one problem to solve then
[20:03] <HBX> there servers must be getting pounded
[20:03] <acr0nym> can you quit skype
[20:03] <Ben90> bauerbob, when i try to run some certain apps the seem to lag a bit.
[20:03] <Marfi> Krypto_: I had that problem. Stop using tor, or refresh the page
[20:03] <BobCFC> Krypto_, try torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
[20:03] <myself> those two or that one command would do it fully?
[20:03] <acr0nym> go to sound & video and start sound recorder
[20:03] <final_frontier> hi everyone
[20:03] <stefg> yaaar: hmm.... then inspect /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf.... might contain wron uuid'S or other bs
[20:03] <final_frontier> got a problem with kde4
[20:04] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: sound recorder? how do i do that? :O
[20:04] <HBX> just cancelled the upgrade shit is taking too long
[20:04] <Marfi> final_frontier: #kubuntu is that way   --->
[20:04] <iskin> How do I switch a foreground process into a background process? Typing 'bg' isn't working for me.
[20:04] <rapha> final_frontier: probably better luck trying in #kubuntu
[20:04] <HBX> and im on cable
[20:04] <chelz> KyleK: yeah i noticed that about an hour ago
[20:04] <nivardus> my 9.04 install disc freezes up after language selection (I've tried reburning, everything seems fine) It stops responding after I make a selection to Install/check disk/book from 1st harddrive/etc.
[20:04] <chelz> KyleK: i'm not sure who to report it to, i said it here also though
[20:04] <Baconheart> why is my xorg running at 99% of the CPU after ugprade to juanty?
[20:04] <acr0nym> Shortguy109, click on applications -> sound & video -> sound recorder
[20:04] <myself> hey
[20:04] <ljuwaidah> later
[20:04] <oliver_g_> HBX: the package servers are probably very overloaded right now
[20:04] <myself> I DID supo apt-get dist upgrade
[20:04] <final_frontier> i have a giant plasmoid in the desktop and i dont know how can i colse it
[20:04] <myself> and it didn't install anything
[20:04] <myself> cause i just did a 10 megabyte update
[20:04] <acr0nym> final_frontier, *cough* join #kubuntu *cough* :P
[20:04] <myself> it asked me to do
[20:04] <HBX> yea thats what i was thinking
[20:04] <oliver_g_> HBX: maybe try again next week
[20:04] <armegadon> is the new notifications in jaunty supposed to not appear when a media player is being used?
[20:04] <JDShewey> myself: then you are are on full release.
[20:05] <bauerbob> Ben90, what apps?
[20:05] <HBX> next week jaja
[20:05] <myself> it was just 10 megabytes of stuff that I needed?
[20:05] <Marfi> final_frontier: #kubuntu is that way, don't clutter #ubuntu on release day    ------>
[20:05] <HBX> maybe at midnight
[20:05] <myself> i mean  i have been updating regularly the past week
[20:05] <myself> but thats all?
[20:05] <JDShewey> myself: yep. Sounds like.
[20:05] <HBX> when ppl arent pounding the servers
[20:05] <stefg> yup
[20:05] <alinon> cheetah's don't have retractible claws...huh
[20:05] <kitche> final_frontier: might want to ask the #kubuntu for your question
[20:05] <thorn_PL> anybody know adress of polish ubuntu room ?
[20:05]  * alinon shrugs
[20:05] <stefg> !pl
[20:05] <vart_> MYSELF: YES
[20:05] <the_dark_warrio> My ubuntu installation is "Scanning the mirror..." for a long time... It is still on 82%. Any hints on this?
[20:05] <myself> okay :)
[20:05] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: i don't have a sound recorder :o
[20:05] <Ben90> bauerbob, the apps i run are zsnes , gxine , etc...
[20:05] <vart_> sorry - missed caps
[20:05] <Guest16366> i speak  a bit of Polish and english
[20:06] <Marfi> the_dark_warrio: wait
[20:06] <acr0nym> thorn_PL, join #ubuntu-pl
[20:06] <alinon> thorn_PL: how'd that skype download go?
[20:06] <BobCFC> HBX, you could try getting the alternateCD from the torrents which are fast, I think you can upgrade from the alternate
[20:06] <kitche> the_dark_warrio: wait a few days
[20:06] <stefg> the_dark_warrio: server overload ...
[20:06] <nct> Hello. Does anyone knows if someone has packaged the recently-released gcc 4.4 for Ubuntu already?
[20:06] <thorn_PL> ok thx very much :D
[20:06] <acr0nym> Shortguy109 that's weird :)
[20:06] <HBX> coo
[20:06] <oliver_g_> HBX: in the ubuntu kingdom, the sun never sets :-) there's always somebody around the world pounding the servers
[20:06] <hardcampa> just switch server
[20:06] <htpc> what word editing software comes with Ubuntu?
[20:06] <HBX> but im on a netbook
[20:06] <the_dark_warrio> oh, ok, thanks ;)
[20:06] <Marfi> BobCFC: HBX Best thing is to wait it out. It will go
[20:06] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: yeah, i was pretty sure i had one O_O
[20:06] <bauerbob> Ben90, i could find only a few warnings in your dmesg output and i'm not sure if even one of the is the cause of the issue. so the apps you're talking of have not much i/o (hard disk) and are 2d only
[20:06] <Guest16366> will i lose my book marks and like stuff?
[20:06] <Ben90> bauerbob, when i run zsnes on the normal kernel it runs choppy
[20:06] <_RadioHead> can i update ubuntu to latst release via ISO file?
[20:06] <Marfi> HBX: If you want to grab the alt, install it to a jump drive
[20:06] <stefg> htpc: vim :-)
[20:06] <acr0nym> Shortguy109, go to System -> preferences -> sound
[20:06] <Marfi> _RadioHead: Alternate cd
[20:07] <JDShewey> Having trouble with nvidia performance w/ compiz. It is a nvidia quadro NVS 280. Any suggestions? I am using the 177 driver BC support for my card was dropped in 180.
[20:07] <vart_> htpc: open office
[20:07] <BobCFC> HBX, yes you can put it on a USB stick, I haven't burnt a CD in a long while lol
[20:07] <alinon> gah! 947 of 1127 files - so close!
[20:07] <manpoole> the time it is taking to download updates is extremely long is that because everyone is getting updates?
[20:07] <HBX> coo
[20:07] <Marfi> JDShewey: glxgears?
[20:07] <HBX> hey will i loose my current settings
[20:07] <Mr_Kaizer> I've got a graphics issue (I think). A few minutes ago, my screen started flickering, flixkering little colored stripes fluttering across my screen. The desktop locked, I couldn't do anything. The screen dissapeared in all the flickering stripes, and it stayed that way for a couple of minutes, before my desktop slowly reapeared. Any thoughts as to what may have cause this? Ubuntu is running just fine now, and was before the incident. I'm o
[20:07] <_RadioHead> Marfi, i have ubuntu-9.04-rc-desktop-i386.iso , i know i can mount and add media but though i can use as ISO
[20:07] <kitche> manpoole: because of the new release
[20:07] <harisund> Anyone know how to stop a service from running on boot time?
[20:07] <bauerbob> Ben90, there's a warning in your dmesg output for your hard disk driver ("needs updating"), so maybe dma is could not be set
[20:07] <stefg> !latex | htpc
[20:07] <HBX> i run super ubuntu
[20:07] <acr0nym> Shortguy109, then go to sound capture and change the settings there till it works, you can check by using the test button
[20:07] <JDShewey> those who are having trouble with updates: do pages take a long time to load?
[20:07] <BobCFC> HBX unetbootin will build a usb from an ISO if you want
[20:07] <yaaar> stefg; how do i edit that file from busybox? i don't have vi or nano apparently
[20:07] <vixey> updtaes updates could work like torrenst!
[20:07] <Marfi> _RadioHead: can't upgrade from the live disk
[20:07] <Ben90> bauerbob, how do i fix that?
[20:07] <JDShewey> if so you may be having issues with ipv6
[20:07] <bauerbob> Ben90, that can result in a lag every time the hdd is being accessed
[20:07] <Marfi> _RadioHead: Clean install, yes
[20:07] <manpoole> the ubuntu sever is swamped
[20:07] <bauerbob> Ben90, are you on 8.10 or 9.04?
[20:08] <manpoole> synaptic is having a time
[20:08] <vart_> harisund: aadd to blacklist
[20:08] <Ben90> bauerbob, i'm on 9.04 beta i think.
[20:08] <acr0nym> I feel so smart by downloading 9.04 a week before the release date :P
[20:08] <harisund> vart_: no not module.. service .. as in something that is found in /etc/init.d/
[20:08] <_RadioHead> Marfi, uh so now huge download
[20:08] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: there's no preferences in settings :o
[20:08] <bauerbob> what's the output of "uname -a"?
[20:08] <manpoole> isnt it possible to add mirrors to ubuntu synaptic?
[20:08] <Marfi> ------It's update day, please stop asking why things are going slow --------
[20:08] <JDShewey> manpoole: do web pages take a long time to load?
[20:08] <manpoole> nope
[20:08] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: system*
[20:08] <Lr5> Anyone knows where to find the torrent download link of the alternative install cd of Ubuntu 9.04? The downloads one leads to a regular download :s
[20:08] <harisund> vart_ it used to be update-rc.d on debian based machines earlier .. but I am not familiar with the equivalent on upstart
[20:08] <stefg> yaaar: you need a rescue system .... either use sysrescd or fire up the desktop cd and apt-get install mdadm , then sudo mdadm -A --scan
[20:08] <manpoole> just packages i am trying to install
[20:08] <BobCFC> manpoole, goto System->Admiin0>Software Sources
[20:09] <Marfi> _RadioHead: You can update through the update manager, clean install with the desktop disk, or update with the alternate CD
[20:09] <acr0nym> Shortguy109, that's strange... System -> preferences -> sound
[20:09] <acr0nym> are you sure that's not there?
[20:09] <Marfi> _RadioHead: Those are your only options. =)
[20:09] <bauerbob> Ben90, there was a kernel update for 9.04 after beta. but you should update a beta to the final anyway (now that the final is finally out)
[20:09] <uni4dfx> Lr5: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/jaunty/
[20:09] <alinon> i hope my upgrade goes well ...i didn't manually change any resources
[20:09] <Ben90> bauerbob?
[20:09] <Lr5> uni4dfx: thanks
[20:09] <harisund> Anyone? I want the equivalent of update-rc.d for upstart .. there's a process in /etc/init.d that I don't want running on boot time
[20:09] <Ben90> bauerbob, how do i update it?
[20:10] <Lr5> actually it seems to be fixed by now
[20:10] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: yeah, im sure, maybe it's the new kde, my brother said "You are running Kubuntu 9.04. The microphone was working in version 8.04."
[20:10] <lepassive> i want to change volume.mount_point for a device using HAL but i can find the conf file
[20:10] <_RadioHead> Marfi, :) better ill go via update manager :0 since i am lazy now to backup my stuff and do a clean install.and i like upgrades , testing how goes all things ....:)
[20:10] <zanberdo> is there a CLI alternative to software-properties-gtk?
[20:10] <vart_> harisund: try sysvconfig
[20:10] <Marfi> harisund: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/<process>
[20:10] <acr0nym> ah Shortguy109 I keep forgetting you are on KDE
[20:10] <Marfi> _RadioHead: sounds good. =)
[20:10] <acr0nym> I'm not familiar with KDE at all, so can't really help a lot
[20:10] <stefg> yaaar: and once again... raid-0 is bs on desktops in 99% of all use cases... seek time is still the same, you'll not gain anything from STR if you don't do video editing
[20:10] <zanberdo> with all the traffic on the main package servers today, I'd like to find the one with the least latency for my location
[20:10] <bauerbob> Ben90, since you're already on a 9.04 you don't need to run the update-manager. but run "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[20:10] <zanberdo> but I don't use the gui
[20:10] <eichi> hello
[20:10] <acr0nym> you can join #kubuntu which is specifically for KDE
[20:10] <zanberdo> for this server.
[20:10] <Shortguy109> oh!
[20:10] <Ben90> ok 1 sec.
[20:10] <eichi> is the torrent on the page dead?
[20:10] <Shortguy109> thanksssss :)
[20:11] <Shortguy109> is there a certain server?
[20:11] <Marfi> zanberdo: that's why I came here to help with the questions
[20:11] <acr0nym> nope just type /join #kubuntu
[20:11] <acr0nym> :)
[20:11] <eichi> torrent download: starts iso download
[20:11] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: okay, thanks very much :)
[20:11] <acr0nym> no problemo, come back when you need help with gnome :P
[20:11] <majlap> may need to do a fresh install :(
[20:11] <armegadon> is the new notifications in jaunty supposed to not appear when a media player is being used?
[20:11] <Schuyler> so I got the Jaunty ISO from BitTorrent, which is great. I booted my system from it, and it doesn't seem to be designed to do upgrades.
[20:12] <BobCFC> zanberdo, you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list but I don't know how to test apart from trial and error
[20:12] <uni4dfx> armegadon: yes
[20:12] <Schuyler> I mounted it -o loop to /media/cdrom0
[20:12] <armegadon> uni4dfx, is there any way to get them to display even though a media player is open?
[20:12] <Ben90> bauerbob?
[20:12] <bauerbob> Schuyler, only the alternate edition is designed for upgrades
[20:12] <Marfi> Schuyler: Alternate CD is the only one that can do upgrades
[20:12] <zcvvc> is it possible to mount *.iso file which is on sshfs? I'm getting permission denied
[20:12] <majlap> says error authenticating some packages :(
[20:12] <bauerbob> Ben90, yes?
[20:12] <Marfi> zcvvc: sudo is your friend
[20:12] <zanberdo> BobCFC, right, I'm aware that I can modify it by hand.  I like the feature that software-properties-gtk offers and other distros support as well when looking for the best possible mirror site.
[20:12] <Ben90> bauerbob, it says that theres nothing to install.
[20:12] <orudie> can i run windows and ubuntu desktop at the same time with support of full hardware such as video and audio ?
[20:12] <Schuyler> ok, so adding "deb file:/media/cdrom0 jaunty main restricted" to my /etc/apt/source.list isn't going to do it? :)
[20:13] <bauerbob> Ben90, and what's the output of "uname -a"?
[20:13] <BobCFC> zanberdo, PING! :)
[20:13] <Marfi> orudie: google "virtual machines"
[20:13] <Ben90> ok 1 sec.
[20:13] <Lr5> so, can you upgrade to 9.04 using the alternative install cd without burning it, if you mount the cd image?
[20:13] <Schuyler> because I tried that and an 'apt-get update' and it doesn't seem to find the files there
[20:13] <zanberdo> BobCFC, not really what I'm looking for BobCFC but thanks anyway
[20:13] <acr0nym> orudie, not sure, you can try virtual box or portable ubuntu
[20:13] <uni4dfx> armegadon: which media player
[20:13] <Lr5> or is there some reason for which only burning works?
[20:13] <Schuyler> Lr5: sounds like we have the same proble, :)
[20:13] <pawel__> I'm downloading upgrading with down speed 1400 b/s
[20:13] <Marfi> Schuyler: Update from the alternate CD, not the live disk
[20:13] <armegadon> uni4dfx, totem and mplayer
[20:13] <Ben90> bauerbob, it says "Linux ben-desktop 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[20:13] <Ben90> "
[20:13] <Schuyler> Marfi: bingo, got it, thanks :)
[20:13] <BobCFC> zanberdo, there must be a bash script somewhere
[20:13] <Marfi> pawel__: It's release day...servers are packed...don't complain
[20:13] <uni4dfx> armegadon: it only works with rhythmbox for now as far as i know
[20:14] <_RadioHead> Marfi, RC and RELEASE are same ? or differ?
[20:14] <_RadioHead> Marfi,  9.04
[20:14] <Marfi> _RadioHead: RC = release candidate, release = release
[20:14] <Schuyler> does anyone have the link for the alternate ISO torrent? I already blew away firefox on my system (don't ask)
[20:14] <Shininggg> has anyone taken over the rythmbox project?
[20:14] <Marfi> _RadioHead: RC is the one before the release
[20:14] <armegadon> uni4dfx, i don't want it to show notifications from totem or mplayer, but currently if totem is open, i don't get pidgin notifications
[20:14] <Marfi> Schuyler: IE? wget?
[20:14] <_RadioHead> Marfi, :) i know  but i just downloadewd RC few days ago when i saw popup 9.04released :)
[20:14] <Schuyler> Marfi: I need to know the URL before I can wget it :)
[20:14] <racecar56> here is an offtopic channel, just for anyone why wants it #ubuntu-cafe
[20:14] <Marfi> _RadioHead: I saw it in class when I did an update. I was happy
[20:14] <zcvvc> Marfi, I'm using sudo
[20:15] <uni4dfx> armegadon: then it's probably a bug
[20:15] <bauerbob> Ben90, oh, damn. that's already the latest kernel. uhm.... well, there's nothing i can tell you for your specific case. you might want to try the usual suspects, that is "noapic" (kernel parameter)
[20:15] <zanberdo> BobCFC, my thought was that whatever software-properties-gtk is doing with the gui should/could be done from cli.  it should be a simple matter to id known servers, test latency, and update sources.list, but do this from cli (since this is one of the features of software-properties-gtk)
[20:15] <_RadioHead> Marfi, i just saw it , already started download :)
[20:15] <Marfi> zcvvc: If your mounting an iso, use sudo mount <iso file> /media/cdrom0 -o loop
[20:15] <Ben90> ok.
[20:15] <armegadon> uni4dfx, is there someone i could talk to that specializes in the notify-osd development
[20:15] <racecar56> *who
[20:15] <whattey> Schuyler: i386 or amd64?
[20:15] <bauerbob> Ben90, and "pci=routeirq" also helps very often, but as I said, that's more a general workaround for hardware issues
[20:15] <_RadioHead> but i need to upgrade my net conection
[20:15] <nivardus> what's going on if, after trying to make a selection on the install disc (after boot) the installer freezes at the menu, with neither CD or harddrive doing working? I've reburned the disc. Any ideas?
[20:15] <zcvvc> Marfi: I'm doing exactly the same
[20:16] <Marfi> Schuyler: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[20:16] <Ben90> bauerbob, what do you mean?
[20:16] <Schuyler> Marfi: thanks!
[20:16] <Schuyler> whattey: thanks also
[20:16] <pawel__> will it be upgrading faster tomorrow?
[20:16] <Marfi> zcvvc: what are you trying to mount?
[20:16] <Schuyler> appreciate your assistance, guys
[20:16] <whattey> pawel__ most likely yes
[20:16] <Marfi> _RadioHead: Have my 3 torrents running / seeding now
[20:16] <danbhfive> nivardus: are you doing a new install?
[20:16] <bauerbob> Ben90, if "noapic" doesn't help, you can also give "pci=routeirq" a try. it's also a kernel parameter
[20:16] <Ben90> ok.
[20:16] <zanberdo> if everyone used software-properties-gtk to find the mirror with the least latency, the main servers wouldn't be so heavily burdened.... just my two cents
[20:17] <_RadioHead> Marfi, no i am using update manager . tomorrow ill download iso from work.
[20:17] <zcvvc> Marfi: ubuntu image iso on another machine, via sshfs
[20:17] <zanberdo> I just wish i could find the cli equivelent
[20:17] <Schuyler> and huge thanks to all the Ubuntu volunteers here, you guys are doing great work
[20:17] <nivardus> danbhfive: attempting a fresh install over 8.04, yes
[20:17] <zcvvc> Must I copy it?
[20:17] <BobCFC> zanberdo, here is a script that will test a bunch of wget response times from a list of servers might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4643738&postcount=3
[20:17] <_RadioHead> Marfi, i asked about RC and release coz on distrowatch i saw this:  New features: Ubuntu 9.04 RC includes the latest GNOME 2.26 desktop ....
[20:17] <Hosein-mec> anyone can tell me , the files in main server ( http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/9.04/ ) is final or not ? because the date is for 20 april but in other mirror like this ( ftp://ftpserv.tudelft.nl/pub/Linux/releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/jaunty/ ) the date is 23 april ! Thanks
[20:17] <Baconheart> I don't have a hardware driver for my ATI card after Juanty upgrade, is that normal?
[20:17] <eternal_p>  /join #ubuntu-release-party
[20:17] <zanberdo> BobCFC, thanks, checking it out now
[20:17] <Marfi> zcvvc: Don't know of you can. Check that you have write permissions on the other machine
[20:17] <danbhfive> nivardus: did you check the cd?
[20:17]  * scunizi gives Schuyler a pat on the back since he's also a volunteer
[20:17] <dthomasdigital> Just installed 9.04 on a dell T3400 and it went very smooth so if you got one of those you should be in good shape.
[20:18] <_RadioHead> anyway thx for clearing my mind and helping me Marfi
[20:18] <_RadioHead> :)
[20:18] <acr0nym> or you can use an asus 1000he :P
[20:18] <Sevein> Hi!
[20:18] <uni4dfx> armegadon: idk, try the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD
[20:18] <acr0nym> runs lightning fast on this netbook
[20:18] <Marfi> zcvvc: I have never done a mount over a network with a .iso. Just don't tell people here if you can. =P
[20:18] <weather15> Anyone downloading 9.04 on OSU open source lab mirror?
[20:18] <zcvvc> Marfi: found it; I have to sudo sshfs
[20:18] <Sevein> What I have to do update from 9.04rc to 9.04? just upgrade?
[20:18] <Marfi> weather15: I usually grab mine from MIT whenever I down. have the last few realeases
[20:18] <zcvvc> thanks anyway
[20:18] <nivardus> danbhfive: same issue when I try to make that selection, I've reburned the image and the download checks out as fine
[20:18] <Marfi> zcvvc: Alright, glad it worked!
[20:19] <orudie> if i install ubuntu dekstop, will i have to install nvidia drivers for video card or will it do it automatically ?
[20:19] <danbhfive> !final > Sevein
[20:19] <Slart> Hello.. if I try to download the torrent for the 9.04 64 bit release I get the iso file directly.. did someone not get their coffee today?
[20:19] <Hosein-mec> anyone can tell me , the files in main server ( http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/9.04/ ) is final or not ? because the date is for 20 april but in other mirror like this ( ftp://ftpserv.tudelft.nl/pub/Linux/releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/jaunty/ ) the date is 23 april ! Thanks
[20:19] <Marfi> orudie: You'll have to install them, but its automated
[20:19] <danbhfive> nivardus: well, your burner could be malfunctioning
[20:19] <acr0nym> funny how the #ubuntu+1 channel disappeared all of a sudden :)
[20:19] <racecar56> acr0nym, cause 9.04 is out
[20:19] <acr0nym> lol duh
[20:19] <acr0nym> figured that out ;P
[20:19] <lwizardl> hi
[20:19] <Sevein> danbhfive: thanks! :)
[20:20] <bauerbob> yippieh, 9.04 packages are now being installed - 1h18m left (wtf?!), see you all later ...well, at least i hope so :-)
[20:20] <lwizardl> does anyone know of a good resource for Made with/on linux logos that are royalty free for use?
[20:20] <physically_fit> I LOVE UBUNTU mkay....
[20:20] <Ben90> cya.
[20:20] <acr0nym> why hello there mr garrison
[20:20] <Baconheart> Marfi: how do I install ATI video drivers in Juanty?
[20:20] <Marfi> lwizardl: google "ubuntu logos"
[20:20] <BobCFC> lwizardl, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official
[20:20] <alinon> æænoesææ
[20:20] <Marfi> Baconheart: google it, not familiar with ATI drivers
[20:20] <nivardus> danbhfive: I'm going to try burning on another computer, thanks for your time
[20:21] <danbhfive> nivardus: np
[20:21] <Slart> Baconheart: there is no restricted drivers manager?
[20:21] <kulight> Baconheart: restricted drivers manager
[20:21] <Slart> !ati | Baconheart, they have probably not update this but anyways..
[20:21] <lwizardl> BobCFC, yeah but those are Ubuntu based only
[20:21] <Baconheart> Slart: when i run that it shows no hardware drivers installed
[20:21] <Marfi> TY Slart
[20:21] <Mushroom> If anyone is looking for Ubuntu 9.04 I will have it on my server in a few minutes
[20:21] <deany> Baconheart, probably means your card is no longer supported
[20:21] <Marfi> Slart: Haven't helped in @ubuntu for a while. =)
[20:21] <Slart> Baconheart: hmm.. odd
[20:22] <Marfi> Mushroom: Or to help...seed
[20:22] <deany> have to stick with the ati opensource driver instead.. like me :(
[20:22] <lwizardl> BobCFC, I'm looking for more of TUX based logos and stuff like "Made 100% on Gedit
[20:22] <Slart> Marfi: well.. the bot probably needs a lot of updating anyways =)
[20:22] <armegadon> uni4dfx, i read that wiki but it doesn't talk about my problem
[20:22] <Marfi> Slart: Probably, but still enough for someone.   =)
[20:22] <acr0nym> Mushroom, how does one get a server with that much extra bandwidth? :)
[20:22] <Slart> !torrent
[20:22] <Mushroom> I have a few new Distros that I will upload tonight that we have downloaded at office the last few days
[20:22] <girdy> has jaunty been officially released yet?
[20:22] <whattey> yes
[20:22] <girdy> thx
[20:23] <Marfi> girdy: Go to the website
[20:23] <lucax> whats up with fast user switch on jaunty??
[20:23] <Slart> can someone try this link http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent  see if they get the torrent or the actual iso-file?
[20:23] <Marfi> girdy = internets - 1000
[20:23] <kulight> !torrents
[20:23] <weather15> Yes
[20:23] <acr0nym> I get the torrent
[20:23] <xcdfgkjhgcv> I've partitioned my HDD into one ext3 / and one ext3 /home. Is it okay if I boot a Live CD and make the /home smaller and make the / bigger?
[20:23] <weather15> Yes I get the ISO File
[20:23] <whattey> same
[20:23] <karim> lu
[20:23] <Marfi> Slart: torrent here
[20:23] <BobCFC> Slartybartfast I get a torrent
[20:23] <karim> commhi
[20:24] <Marfi> xcdfgkjhgcv: yes
[20:24] <Slart> thanks guys/girls.. wonder why I get the iso file...
[20:24] <girdy> why does rhythmbox keep asking me to install a suitable plugin?
[20:24] <girdy> is there a way to make that window go away?
[20:24] <girdy> cuz it asks multiple times
[20:24] <Schuyler> Slart: the same thing happened to me
[20:24] <graingert> girdy, install the plugin then
[20:24] <girdy> and i keep hitting "cancel"
[20:24] <Marfi> girdy: If you don't want mp3 support, then yes, x out of it.
[20:24] <BobCFC> girdy, MP3s need a plugin first time they are played
[20:24] <Schuyler> Slart: I wget'ed the torrent link and got the iso instead
[20:24] <iandan> I have upgraded to Ubuntu 9.04 and I have a problem of key mapping: Fn+F8, which should increase screen's brightenes now does nothing. Any idea?
[20:24] <graingert> girdy, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:24] <Schuyler> however the ISO is pulling down at 10 Mb, so I decided to just leave it :)
[20:25] <girdy> Marfi: i have mp3 support, it's asking me to install a WMA DRM plugin
[20:25] <orudie> whats the difference between ubuntu desktop and kubuntu
[20:25] <Slart> Schuyler: strange.. perhaps some kind of website caching thingy..
[20:25] <graingert> Schuyler, what link was it
[20:25] <girdy> graingert: restricted extras is already installed
[20:25] <Marfi> girdy: then install it. never know when you will need it
[20:25] <sebsebseb> iandan: upgraded from which version?
[20:25] <pawel__> bye
[20:25] <graingert> orudie, one uses gnome the other kde4
[20:25] <scunizi> Schuyler: you should try downloading with bittorrent or something similar.. much faster
[20:25] <lucax> why didnt developers just wait until they had it all ok before releasing something so unstable!?
[20:25] <girdy> Marfi: how? when i select "search for a suitable plugin" nothing comes up
[20:25] <graingert> !kubuntu | orudie
[20:25] <BobCFC> orudie, K has KDE instead of gnome
[20:25] <MaT-dg> my mouse cursor dissappears when firefox is loading a page (jaunty)
[20:25] <iandan> sebsebseb: from 8.10 to 9.04
[20:25] <alinon> lucax: new release unstable for you i take it?
[20:26] <graingert> MaT-dg, I used to get that
[20:26] <Slart> lucax: it's not working for you?
[20:26] <lucax> at all
[20:26] <graingert> MaT-dg, I can't remember what caused/fixed it
[20:26] <Marfi> I must depart...have fun, yall
[20:26] <alinon> PFFTT
[20:26] <alinon> at all?!
[20:26] <orudie> so which one is prettier k or gnome ?
[20:26] <lucax> Slart, i cant swtich between users, and cant run compiz
[20:26] <graingert> orudie, depends on them
[20:26] <Slart> lucax: nvidia graphics? ati?
[20:26] <Schuyler> scunizi: that's what I'm saying, I went to download http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent and it redirected me to http://d2j60aaoklmkol.cloudfront.net/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso
[20:26] <girdy> Marfi: how do i install a Protected WMA plugin? do you know?
[20:26] <BobCFC> orudie, careful you will start a fight like that
[20:26] <Dreamglider> Hey and Happy Ubuntu's day :)
[20:26] <Schuyler> which is the iso image
[20:26] <lucax> Slart, intel
[20:26] <graingert> orudie, kde4 focussed on eye candy and being a bastard to run
[20:26] <alinon> could be a graphics driver issue lucax
[20:26] <girdy> Marfi: no plugins show up under "search"
[20:26] <g4lv4tr0n> dronix its jaunty
[20:27] <wallacejbj> ectospasm what was that command line in terminal again for finding out which dev my burner is set to?  just want to keep the command handy incase i need it again, it was something like "ls /dev/dvd
[20:27] <Schuyler> but as it happens 10 megabits is waaay faster than the torrent was earlier
[20:27] <Slart> lucax: there was a warning about intel cards and jaunty.. can't remember the details though
[20:27] <ectospasm> wallacejbj: you can try "ls -al /dev/dvd*"
[20:27] <dronix> yeah I got it g41v4tr0n thxs
[20:27] <BobCFC> wallacejbj, type mount
[20:27] <ectospasm> wallacejbj:  the -l option is key
[20:27] <lucax> great... great...
[20:27] <orudie> so which is recommended by official ubuntu, gnome or k ?
[20:27] <ectospasm> the -a may be superfluous.
[20:27] <slash0031> Yo people, I cannot get wallpaper tray to work on 9.04. How can I fix this?
[20:27] <wallacejbj> your a star mate thanks it worked a treat before
[20:27] <g4lv4tr0n> dronix yea my bad just got out the bath my irc was a bit behind lol
[20:27] <alinon> lucax on a laptop i take it?
[20:27] <scunizi> Schuyler: weird.. check pirate bay.. someone uploaded the latest there too
[20:27] <girdy> anyone know how to install a WMA-DRM decoder in ubuntu?
[20:28] <alienkid> how do I make the home folder, trash, and file system appear on the desktop?
[20:28] <xcdfgkjhgcv> scunizi: Isn't it now illegal to download torrents off TPB?
[20:28] <girdy> by decoder, i mean a plugin for rhythmbox. does one exist?
[20:28] <wallacejbj> i'm quite new to ubuntu and trying my best to learn but as always i'm coming back to your guys for help and your always there to get me by
[20:28] <g4lv4tr0n> girdy checkout the wiki
[20:28] <scunizi> xcdfgkjhgcv: downloading a legal torrent? don't think so
[20:28] <g4lv4tr0n> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty
[20:28] <MaT-dg> graingert: in jaunty or a previous release?
[20:28] <loafers> Session manager = Display Manager?
[20:28] <girdy> g4lv4tr0n: the wiki on WMA-DRM?
[20:28] <g4lv4tr0n> i think its restricted extras
[20:29] <xcdfgkjhgcv> scunizi: "Since filing a criminal complaint in Sweden in November 2004, the film industry has worked vigorously with Swedish and U.S. government officials in Sweden to shut this illegal website down."
[20:29] <alinon> i think torrents have gotten such a bad reputation that the general population just thinks they are illegal even if then content in the torrent is open source
[20:29] <g4lv4tr0n> i think WMA support is in restricted extras
[20:29] <danbhfive> girdy: have you tried medibuntu?
[20:29] <alinon> zoMG o·.o
[20:29] <thurston> Hello, I am trying to upgrade from Ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04. All my updates are in order. There is a connectivity related error that I get, which always appears at the same point. This is the message I get in the error window : W:Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[20:29] <thurston> , W:Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-security/main/source/Sources.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[20:29] <thurston> , W:Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[20:29] <thurston> , E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. Please help.
[20:29] <FloodBot2> thurston: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:29] <Slart> !pastebin | thurston
[20:29] <mib_4a6rub> i upgrade to the latest release today.My X stops working, hung on login screen. how do i save my box ?
[20:30] <justanothercoder> hello, i have an ubuntu laptop that has an user logged in and a session running. is there anyway i can login to the laptop via remote ssh and then grab a screenshot of the session running there?
[20:30] <girdy> danbhfive: medubuntu, how do i install it?
[20:30] <orudie> so which is recommended by official ubuntu, gnome or k ?
[20:30] <alinon> gnome ofcourse
[20:30] <BobCFC> orudie, gnome is the default
[20:30] <Slart> orudie: gnome for ubuntu, kde for kubuntu, xfce for xubuntu
[20:30] <rski> orudie: none is recomended
[20:30] <danbhfive> girdy: medibuntu
[20:30] <rski> orudie: use what you want
[20:31] <uni4dfx> everyone shut down your computers so my upgrade packages can download faster!! :D
[20:31] <Slart> orudie: they are all supported
[20:31] <Dreamglider> im making a new partition and then a copy of the current ubuntu setup, then ill try to update to 9.04. crossing fingers.:)
[20:31] <lucax> i miss hardy
[20:31] <negge> justanothercoder: I don't think that's possibly (atleast not without somehow restarting the other session atleast once), but I might be wrong
[20:31] <alinon> if you want a windows clones use kde, if you want something that easier to skin, use gnome
[20:31] <girdy> danbhfive: is it just sudo apt-get install medibuntu?
[20:31] <graingert> girdy, no
[20:31] <Slart> !medibuntu | girdy
[20:31] <BobCFC> orudie, you find about 60% use gnome, 30% Kde and 10% xfce other on ubuntu
[20:31] <girdy> ubottu: thanks!
[20:31] <SN0WB4LL> hi, why I haven't got sound in ubuntu 9.04?
[20:32] <deany> vlc has a seperate window for playin videos, yet its set to "integrate video into main display"..
[20:32] <justanothercoder> negge : so there is no way i can attach to an existing session?
[20:32] <g4lv4tr0n> Dreamglider there is a way to save/backup a list of instaled apps then do clean install and use the backed up list to automate the app installs
[20:32] <Guza> i dont have access to my dvd rom
[20:32] <scunizi> xcdfgkjhgcv: yes.. so they will monitor you downloading a legal torrent.. what are they going to do send a cease and dissist order to you?
[20:32] <g4lv4tr0n> you can do this with synaptic
[20:32] <lucax> how do i enable control alt backspace again?
[20:32] <sl00> Hi again. I am trying to install using another monitor now. It works kinda okey but GDM seem to set a resolution which is too high even though I only have 1027x768, 1280x1024 and 1360x768 in /etc/X11/xorg.conf...Why is that? xrandr also show modes that is not in the xorg.conf and not supported by the monitor!?!
[20:32] <Guza> how can i fix this
[20:32] <irmandos> !isitout
[20:32] <BobCFC> vlc there is a bug in 0.9.6 version of VLC they did that on perpose, if you get 1.0 beta it is fixed but not in Jaunty because still beta
[20:32] <negge> justanothercoder: not remotely afaik. Atleast not with SSH. If you would have enabled "remote desktop sharing" on the running session you could have remotely attached to the session using a VNC client
[20:32] <Dreamglider> g4lv4tr0n: how ?
[20:32] <Guza> when i login as root i can see files on dvd
[20:32] <sl00> How can I have GDM use 1360x768 or lower ?
[20:33] <xcdfgkjhgcv> scunizi: They could do. I got the torrent from an illegal source.
[20:33] <weather15> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes < Needs to be updated
[20:33] <sl00> And how do I get rid of modes like 1600x1200 which are not supported?
[20:33] <justanothercoder> negge : if remote desktop sharing is enabled, can i login without alerting the current user?
[20:33] <weather15> There a setting for that
[20:33] <scunizi> xcdfgkjhgcv: I don't know where you're at but in the US legal site or not makes no difference.. it's a legal torrent.
[20:33] <Guza> can someone help me
[20:33] <Guza> ?
[20:33] <g4lv4tr0n> Dreamglider i think its save markings as in synaptic
[20:33] <sebsebseb> !ask |  Guza
[20:33] <Cryovat> Hey
[20:33] <negge> justanothercoder: I think so. When enabling desktop sharing you can choose whether the user using the session should be notified via a popup or not
[20:33] <Cryovat> Anyone here installed 9.04 on an Eee 900?
[20:33] <g4lv4tr0n> can anyone confirm this ^
[20:34] <negge> sebsebseb: he already asked...
[20:34] <JPZ`> Hello everyone. I accidently chmod /var/log. and now im unable to view my logs via the GUI log viewer. What is the default chmod value for /var/log ?
[20:34] <MaT-dg> CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE isn't working in jaunty?
[20:34] <rski> MaT-dg: nope
[20:34] <BobCFC> xcdfgkjhgcv, goto bittorrent.com it's a proper company
[20:34] <dronix> JPZ: 644
[20:34] <danbhfive> !notes | MaT-dg
[20:34] <rski> MaT-dg: you need to add it back if you want it
[20:34] <sebsebseb> Cryovat: I expect hardly anyone has.  9.04 only released today.  and people who were trying when in development I expect like no one did on a EEPC
[20:34] <scunizi> xcdfgkjhgcv: until the site no longer exists or is totally blocked by the internet police, it's accessable
[20:34] <orudie> i'm thinking about installing ubuntu dekstop today , should i do it ?
[20:34] <justanothercoder> negge : can i set desktop sharing to be enabled by default for all users?
[20:34] <Cryovat> I'm running the live version on an Eee 900 and lags a lot
[20:34] <JPZ`> dronix, thanks
[20:34] <g4lv4tr0n> Dreamglider ill check quick 2 secs
[20:34] <xcdfgkjhgcv> scunizi: LOL in my country, it's illegal to rip/burn a CD!!!
[20:34] <EeeUser300> Hi, is there already a method to install 9.04 final via usb stick?
[20:35] <Guza> sebsebseb: well i cant access to my dvd rom as user only as root i can access to my dvd. can u help me to solve this problem
[20:35] <shell_user> UNETBOOTING
[20:35] <sebsebseb> !install |  EeeUser300
[20:35] <negge> justanothercoder: I don't know if the settings are global for all users or not. You could try. Or you could edit the appropriate configuration file for the user you want but I don't know exactly which one it is.
[20:35] <shell_user> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>UNETBOOTING  FOR LIVE FROM USB STICK<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
[20:35] <g4lv4tr0n> Dreamglider http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty#Reinstalling_applications_after_a_fresh_install
[20:35] <Slart> orudie: try a live cd first.. there will be less crying if it doesn't work that way
[20:35] <g4lv4tr0n> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty#Reinstalling_applications_after_a_fresh_install
[20:35] <mrwes> no updates today from the RC aye?
[20:35] <xcdfgkjhgcv> There's too many people here.
[20:35] <Cryovat> It feels really sluggish
[20:35] <shell_user> he
[20:35] <shell_user> xdfg
[20:35] <shell_user> sdg
[20:35] <shell_user> sdfg
[20:35] <shell_user> sdf
[20:35] <FloodBot2> shell_user: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:35] <Slart> orudie: never just upgrade your one-and-only live system
[20:35] <aDeck> what`s the username and password for ubuntu 9.04 livecd ? :/
[20:35] <mrwes> aDeck, there isn't one
[20:35] <g4lv4tr0n> Cryovat good to see you still here its been a while :)
[20:35] <shell_user> no
[20:35] <sebsebseb> Guza: your DVD drive is not being detected?
[20:36] <alinon> i wonder if anyone has upgraded without **any issues yet
[20:36] <Slart> shell_user: broken keyboard? drunk? just annoying?
[20:36] <Champain> I have
[20:36] <mrwes> alinon, I have
[20:36] <sebsebseb> alinon: of course
[20:36] <Cryovat> Hi g4lv4tr0n :-)
[20:36] <Slart> aDeck: don't think there is one
[20:36] <HBX> whats the torrent link for jaunty
[20:36] <Guza> sebsebseb: no just i cant access to them
[20:36] <sebsebseb> I wonder how many people are running 9.04 on Ext4 :d
[20:36] <shell_user> im no just fun
[20:36] <Slart> aDeck: it asks you for one?
[20:36] <BobCFC> aDeck, blank password
[20:36] <Guza> sebsebseb: i dont have permisions
[20:36] <Slart> !torrents
[20:36] <negge> HBX: check the topic
[20:36] <bsanders> whats the md5sum of the i386 desktop iso for jaunty?
[20:36] <sebsebseb> !permissions |  Guza
[20:36] <alinon> sebsebseb: ya think so? cool maybe there's hope for me yet ;)
[20:36] <Champain> 9.04 fixed the issue with my external HDD :D
[20:36] <Royall> Is Jaunty supposed to be downloading uber slow?
[20:36] <HBX> thanks
[20:36] <negge> Royall: it's slow for me too
[20:36] <uni4dfx> royall: yes
[20:36] <Royall> In fact, it's not downloading at all for me
[20:36] <sebsebseb> alinon: uh???
[20:36] <uni4dfx> everyone stop upgrading
[20:36] <Slart> Royall: you and the rest of the world is getting it at the same time.. it'll be slow for a whike
[20:37] <Dougshell> i assume things are just bogged down
[20:37] <weather15> Yes slow for me to
[20:37] <uni4dfx> so i can upgrade faster
[20:37] <bill102299> can anyone hearme?
[20:37] <BobCFC> Royall, I got the torrent at 2MB a sec
[20:37] <misbach> Where do I download the netbook remix ISO (not the IMG)?
[20:37] <Dougshell> yeah it has stalled forme
[20:37] <shoulah> why i can't obtain the torrent file for 9.04
[20:37] <mrwes> heh uni4dfx
[20:37] <Guza> sebsebseb: i know that and cdrom is readonly fs
[20:37] <happosade> Royall: Try torrent. I think that servers are down for few days now.
[20:37] <aDeck> i tried: ubuntu, linux, root nothing seems to work :/
[20:37] <sebsebseb> Guza: ok  need to give it permissons
[20:37] <Royall> BobCFC: I don't wanna start from scratch though
[20:37] <sebsebseb> Guza: you know how to edit fstab?
[20:37] <Slart> aDeck: root? ubuntu uses sudo
[20:37] <Guza> yes
[20:37] <orudie> Slart: i have vista installed, i want to keep that and install ubuntu as dual boot
[20:37] <kkdue> sudo passwd root
[20:37] <kkdue> :D
[20:37] <Bruners> best place to start if i lost my sound after upgrading to 9.04 ?
[20:37] <happosade> Slart: maybe sudo su?
[20:37] <Slart> orudie: still.. try the live cd first
[20:37] <Guza> what to type
[20:37] <Guza> ?
[20:37] <BobCFC> shoulah, try  http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
[20:38] <Slart> happosade: sigh.. no.. wrong.. man sudo for goodness
[20:38] <sebsebseb> Guza: also the  giving nautilus  root   thing gksudo  and then changing your permissions for the drive graphicalley, that might work
[20:38] <aDeck> ok, tried sudo and blank pass too
[20:38] <orudie> Slart: are you saying it may not work ?
[20:38] <alinon> orudie: have you thought about using wubi?
[20:38] <Slart> !root
[20:38] <Royall> happosade: Do I need to start from scratch from the ISO?
[20:38] <HBX> will i lose my setting if i do an upgrade
[20:38] <orudie> alinon: whats wubi ?
[20:38] <happosade> Slart: yap, i know, but someone use root :X
[20:38] <Royall> happosade: Or can I upgrade using the ISO?
[20:38] <sebsebseb> !wubi >  orudie
[20:38] <sebsebseb> orudie: I woudn't normalley recommend installing Ubuntu with wubi
[20:38] <kkdue> sudo passwd root if you want to risk
[20:38] <kkdue> :D
[20:38] <alinon> orudie: allows you to install ubuntu from within vista
[20:38] <Flannel> Royall: You can upgrade with the alternate CD, but not the desktop CD.
[20:38] <Slart> happosade: people do all kinds of stupid things.. yesterday I walked into a lamp post
[20:39] <sebsebseb> alinon: it's better to partition a hard disk for real
[20:39] <Slart> happosade: =)
[20:39] <Dreamglider> g4lv4tr0n: can you paste that link again ?
[20:39] <alinon> sebsebseb: true, but for beginniner...
[20:39] <HBX> so should i download the alternate cd
[20:39] <happosade> Slart: I fell with my bike. :P
[20:39] <sebsebseb> alinon: yes even for beginner
[20:39] <HBX> whats the alternate cd's torrent link
[20:39] <sebsebseb> alinon: a dual boot is not that difficult to set up
[20:39] <bsanders> anyone know where I can find the md5sums for the released isos?
[20:39] <Slart> HBX: if you want a text mode installer.. yes
[20:39] <alinon> sebsebseb: it's gain allot of popularity, so i presume it's not too bad haha
[20:39] <Jeruvy> sebsebseb: I'd disagree, but opinions are just that :)  wubi is a great and easy way to dual boot without all the dumb MBR breaking.
[20:39] <Guza> yes but this is not solutions
[20:39] <mrwes> http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[20:39] <uni4dfx> HBX: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/jaunty/
[20:40] <Slart> HBX: or you need to install ubuntu on a computer with less than 128Mb memory.. or use some other weird install options
[20:40] <kulight> !ubuto
[20:40] <sebsebseb> Jeruvy: if  Windows is not fragmented.  Ubuntu can be slow. if Windows get a nasty virus that deltes  it,  well  bye bye Ubuntu
[20:40] <Slart> !torrents
[20:40] <alinon> *gained too...
[20:40] <kulight> !ubotu
[20:40] <racecar56> anyone know how to make all removable media allow me to make directories and all without being root?
[20:40] <orudie> so wubi is like a vm ? or is it better ?
[20:40] <psychic> can someone help me correct my screen size
[20:40] <xemacs4321> <<< donating large pipe to torrent pool
[20:40] <sebsebseb> alinon: who  are you going to listen to, someone that is pretty new to Ubuntu  telling you that Wubi is good,  or someone like me, who has used Ubuntu since the second release in 2005?
[20:41] <happosade> How long takes to make Gnome from sources @ 2,7GHz duacore
[20:41] <racecar56> !root > me
[20:41] <psychic> its got a black border around it
[20:41] <racecar56> lol
[20:41] <alinon> orudie: better, there is a performance hit and no 3-d graphics
[20:41] <happosade> !source > me
[20:41] <alinon> or atleast last i checked
[20:41] <sebsebseb> alinon: I woudn't normalley recommend wubi, but sometimes there is a good reason for it
[20:41] <shoulah> thank you but i wanna say that the torrent links on the official ubuntu site didn't work with me thank u again
[20:41] <Flannel> happosade: We have no idea.  Whats wrong with the binary packages?
[20:41] <orudie> alinon: no 3d graphics in wibu ?
[20:41] <Jeruvy> sebsebseb: Thats the same for 'any' windows app.   That doesn't mean wubi is worse than dual booting.  Nuking windows and sticking to ubuntu would tho :)
[20:41] <racecar56> yeah
[20:41] <Guest41960> me <o_0>
[20:41] <kulight> !torrents
[20:42] <racecar56> anyone know how to make all removable media allow me to make directories and all without being root?
[20:42] <happosade> Flannel: for tweaking :) And just for fun.
[20:42] <bsanders> !ubottu
[20:42] <orudie> wubi i mean
[20:42] <alinon> orudie: check out wubi-installer.org for more info
[20:42] <sebsebseb> Jeruvy: if people are going to have  Ubuntu inside Windows, then maybe they should run a virtual machine rather than Wubi
[20:42] <sl00> Guys... why is xrandr (and te screen resolution program) displaying modes that are not supported (and modes not even in xorg.conf) ?!?
[20:42] <sebsebseb> Jeruvy: at least that way they can run both OS's at the same time
[20:43] <alinon> orudie: it's not for everyone, but it doesn't do anything permanant so it's worth a try
[20:43] <Dreamglider> g4lv4tr0n: can you paste that link again pls (you can pm it to me also if you want)
[20:43] <sebsebseb> Jeruvy: of course really  Windows should be the guest, unless it's  on say a 3D  Windows gaming machine
[20:43] <psychic> anyone know how to fix display sizing problems???
[20:43] <orudie> alinon: so with wubi i'll be able to use desktop effects like compiz and stuff right ?
[20:43] <mrwes> 4722 seeders  hehe
[20:44] <sebsebseb> orudie: yes probably
[20:44] <racecar56> anyone know how to make all removable media allow me to make directories and all without being root?
[20:44] <moxfalder> 9.04 really fast !
[20:44] <racecar56> anyone know how to make all removable media allow me to make directories and all without being root?
[20:44] <racecar56> ooops
[20:44] <racecar56> sorry for repeat
[20:44] <sourcemaker> isnt there any easy way to configure wlan in ubuntu? (command line) ?????
[20:44] <alinon> orduie: there's some known issues with compiz, but it does work
[20:44] <sebsebseb> orudie: ,but  your still running Ubuntu in a section of your Windows partition, which for varous reasons isn't really the best idea
[20:44] <thiebaude> moxfalder: yup
[20:44] <sourcemaker> !wlan
[20:44] <sebsebseb> orudie: expesailly when setting up a proper partitioned dual boot, is not exactly difficult
[20:44] <LordMetro> Stupid me
[20:45] <racecar56> !windows > me
[20:45] <shoulah> i use wicd for manage my wireless connection
[20:45] <LordMetro> I upgraded Ubuntu without backing up my data
[20:45] <LordMetro> Now I canät come past IO APIC
[20:45] <cannonball> A coworker downloaded the Desktop ISO.  It does not allow me to do any type of upgrade, only install new or side by side.  The "getubuntu/upgrading" webpage mentions the alternate cd/dvd.  Is alternate required to do an upgrade?
[20:45] <Jeruvy> sebsebseb: how would a virtual machine be 'different' than a wubi-managed disk?
[20:45] <LordMetro> IO APIC resource could not be allocated.
[20:45] <orudie> sebsebseb: will ubuntu desktop installation cd prompt me if I want to set up dual boot? i want to plug in a dedicated hard drive for ubuntu
[20:45] <LordMetro> Gave up waiting for root device
[20:45] <negge> has anyone noticed any regressions with Vmware Workstation 6.5 after upgrading to Jaunty?
[20:45] <LordMetro> And then I am in the initramfs shell
[20:46] <LordMetro> What do I do?
[20:46] <frostburn> i'm getting this error here when opening http://paste.ubuntu.com/156723/
[20:46] <thiebaude> LordMetro: you have an intel video card?
[20:46] <sebsebseb> Jeruvy: Ubuntu virtualmachines and wubi  are good for trying, but shoudn't really be used for proper long term usage
[20:46] <LordMetro> Maybe, I am not sure
[20:46] <MIshtal> Hi there, I've been using for Ubuntu since gutsy, and regularly beta (and also occasionally alpha) test. When I upgraded my laptop to the jaunty beta a month or so ago, Booting gave me scrambled graphics until I dropped to the root recovery console and removed xorg-driver-flgrx. Now that jaunty's been officially released, when I tried installing the package I get the same results at boot.
[20:46] <MIshtal> Does anyone have any info on whether xorg-driver-flgrx is supported in jaunty? are we completely switching  to the open source drivers? Is this an issue unique to me? Is there perhaps a configuration setting i missed?
[20:46] <LordMetro> It is the laptop so I never really used the video card
[20:46] <Jeruvy> negge: we had one machine barf, I'm not looking into it.  But one of many isn't too bad :)
[20:46] <DarthFrog> negge: VMware 6.5 works for me, under Kubunut
[20:46] <tidbeck> I have a ATI mobility card and have problem with performance. I set accelmethod to XAA wich helped a little, anyone got some more tips?
[20:47] <alinon> dang that's twice now that the download for my upgrade has quit all together :(
[20:47] <LordMetro> I mean, I never taken notice to what video card it is
[20:47] <sebsebseb> orudie: I normalley manualley partition  the hard disks :)    more control, but  I think a guided install can  even do the dual boot
[20:47] <iListenU> Please help, i get problem in: http://parduoduv.puslapiai.lt at header error. (top). What can it be?
[20:47] <negge> DarthFrog: on Jaunty?
[20:47] <sebsebseb> orudie: setting  partitions up manualley is a good idea :) since more control, plus with 9.04  you can choose to have the optional Ext4 file system instead of the defualt Ext3
[20:48] <DarthFrog> negge: Yep.  Ran fine in the beta/RC and now release.
[20:48] <orudie> so ext4 is better ?
[20:48] <orudie> sebastien: ^^
[20:48] <ripps> tidbeck: If your using EXA and the opensource driver, I reccomend enabling AccelDFS in xorg.conf. I greatly speeds up things like Flash
[20:48] <Daskreech> Si there no Flgrx in jaunty ?
[20:48] <Daskreech> !fglrx
[20:48] <LordMetro> How can I backup my data when I am stuck in initramfs?
[20:48] <sebsebseb> orudie:   apparnatly their are a few issues with it,  well  the file system is good, but the kernel Ubuntu uses needs some changes apparnatly.  however loads of people have got on just fine with Ext4
[20:48] <alinon> ext4 hasn't been extenstively tested yet, use at your own risk
[20:48] <minimec> MIshtal: Probably your card is not supported anymore (like my x1250) http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.7&product=2.7.4.3.3.3.1&lang=English
[20:48] <tidbeck> ripps: Ok, thank you I will try that
[20:49] <negge> DarthFrog: great. I've been running a Vista x64 guest, hope it's still all good after upgrading. I've had some issues with exiting fullscreen when I have desktop effects and TV-out enabled simultaneosly, would be great if that problems would go away
[20:49] <ripps> Daskreech: fgrlx only works with rv600+ cards in Jaunty, AMD removed support for older cards
[20:49] <Guza> what i need to edit in fs tab to all users can access dvd drive?????????
[20:49] <a-stray-cat1> anyone else getting an error that the 9.04-desktop-amd64 torrent file is invalid?
[20:49] <weather15>  /join xubuntu
[20:49] <mrwes> !mount
[20:49] <sebsebseb> orudie: 9.04 in a way is a bit pointless on Ext3,  since  8.10 is good enough on Ext3.   one of the major features of  9.04 is Ext4
[20:49] <Daskreech> ripps: Sooo ubuntu doesn't carry it anymore?
[20:49] <DarthFrog> negge: Can't say about any interaction that way.  I have desktop effects turned off and no TV card in this machine.
[20:49] <alinon> if you didn't mind just backing up stuff in vista you don't want to lose, i suggest just installing Ubuntu by itself, and running like XP or vista in virtualbox
[20:50] <alinon> who needs that virus ridden OS ;p
[20:50] <girdy> it's a nice day out im going out side later people
[20:50] <MIshtal1> minimec: do you remember the command off hand to find which card i have? I got my laptop 3 years ago and don't recall.
[20:50] <orudie> sebastien -> so you saying there isnt many changes from8.10 to 9.04 ?
[20:50] <DarthFrog> alinon: Gamers do.
[20:50] <BobCFC> oche vista in virtual is a killa, make it xp
[20:50] <negge> DarthFrog: okay. Guess my situation isn't the most common one. Disabling desktop effects or TV-out fixes it though so it's not a showstopper
[20:50] <sebsebseb> orudie: Ext4 is meant to be faster,  have faster  disk checking and things.
[20:50] <ripps> Daskreech: No, jaunty comes with catalyst 9.4, but you need to have one of the newer cards to use, otherwise the opensource works just as good with the older cards anyway.
[20:50] <zanberdo> BobCFC, thank you for the link to the ffmirror script.  I've adapted it to my needs and have created my own mirror list.  I"m running the test now. this should do the trick
[20:50] <minimec> MIshtal1: lspci |grep VGA
[20:50]  * mikemikemike1234 <o_0>
[20:50] <mrwes> MIshtal1, lspci | grep VGA
[20:50] <alinon> DarthFrog: i can play games in virtualbox lol
[20:50] <orudie> sebastien -> yeah i'll probably try that
[20:50] <BobCFC> zanberdo, wow cool :)
[20:50] <DarthFrog> alinon: Games that require 3d?
[20:50] <bigos> hello!
[20:51] <Guza> i cant find mount options
[20:51] <racecar56> hi
[20:51] <alinon> DarthFrog: playing icwind dale 2 right now
[20:51] <orudie> sebsebseb -> keep typing the wrong nick lol
[20:51] <PorkChop_> hi guys
[20:51] <racecar56> hi
[20:51] <sebsebseb> orudie: quite a few changes under the hood,  but  user changes not as such,  but don't listen to me entirely yet, because  I  still have to get rid of this   upgraded  8.10 to  alpha6, to beta, to release candiate install.  that is running Ext3.  and clean install  and do Ext4
[20:51] <BobCFC> zanberdo, i was worried that response time != bandwith but for today it might help anyway
[20:51] <Miles1> hey
[20:51] <bigos> what could it be, when my system doesn't recognize my wifi card? its w lekcjach.
[20:51] <bigos> Zmiana ustaw: o powszechnym obowiązku obronnym oraz o kulturze fizycznej była konieczna, by nie doszło do niezgodności z mającym wejść w życie od 1 września br. rozporządzeniem ministra edukacji w sprawie podstaw programowych nauczania poszczególnych przedmiotów w szkole. Rozporządzenie to - wydane na podstawie ustawy o systemie oświaty - zawiera zapisy określające, jaki zakres wiedzy i u
[20:51] <PorkChop_> I have a question regarding network-manager and wireless networks
[20:51] <MIshtal1> Mimic you are right, its on the list. thanks for the info
[20:51] <alinon> æævirtualboxææ ææfTWææ
[20:51] <bigos> awwww
[20:51] <bigos> sorry
[20:51] <FloodBot2> bigos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:51] <DarthFrog> alinon: Interesting.  What compromises do you have to make to do that?
[20:51] <SeViLLa> hey is it just me or is the update repository downloading slow
[20:51] <PorkChop_> i have configured 2 networks (one with wep and one with wpa)
[20:51] <Miles1> SeVilla same for me
[20:51] <racecar56> SeViLLa, not you
[20:51] <PorkChop_> it all works well
[20:51] <orudie> sebsebseb -> why do you have to go through all that ?
[20:51] <mrwes> SeViLLa, it's slow
[20:52] <alinon> none actually, i give virtualbox 1gig of ram and 256mb of video memory
[20:52] <MIshtal1> minimec: your right, its on the list thanks for the information
[20:52] <uni4dfx> Sevilla, what did you expect, everyone's upgrading
[20:52] <minimec> MIshtal1: np
[20:52] <alinon> which is nothing for my system
[20:52] <skaidrius> i cant get the video working. im gettin blank screen vith audio or nothing at all
[20:52] <PPT`away> anyone have a minute (or two :P) to help me out, i'm trying to get my wired connection on a computer to work, ifconfig is showing what i presume the errors to be in "TX errors:17 etc carrier:17"
[20:52] <sebsebseb> orudie: ,because I  got 9.04 early when  on alpha6,  and  some of the bugs  have remained.  and I need to clean install anyway for full Ext4 suppourt :)
[20:52] <skaidrius> with jaunty
[20:52] <Miles1> if we even installed rc, we can just update to standard release
[20:52] <SeViLLa> k i just wanted to make sure
[20:52] <admin_masu3701> what are the new features that 9.04 brings compare to 8.10?
[20:52] <mrwes> !Jaunty
[20:52] <Daskreech> !changelog
[20:52] <racecar56> admin_masu3701, newer stuffs
[20:52] <zanberdo> BobCFC, yeah, probably not a problem.  I'm just trying to avoid the bottle neck which will be prevalent over the next week... I'm not even upgrading! I just need to install the periodic package on an established server.
[20:52] <PorkChop_> except that if I click on a the network name in the list of all detected network, it creates another entry, instead of using my configured one
[20:52] <thedust> hello i wanted to know how do you change the drive you want to install ubuntu to?
[20:53] <acr0nym> admin_masu3701, google :) but mainly, faster bootup times, and the use of ext4 plus a boatload of driver fixes
[20:53] <racecar56> thedust, ez
[20:53] <racecar56> !install
[20:53] <DarthFrog> !torrents
[20:53] <xemacs4321> torrent of the ISO image best way to go for upgrade !!!
[20:53] <BobCFC> zanberdo, good luck
[20:53] <jpnub> Does anyone here use multi-monitors with the new notification system
[20:53] <moepMan1> hi folks... my girlfriend has ubuntu 9.04 installed but her 21" monitor just gives her a resolution of 800x600. she has a s3 savage 8 graphics adaptor and a hitachi cm823F monitor... can somebody please help?
[20:53] <sebsebseb> admin_masu3701: newer versin of Gnome,  fading backgrounds,  you can  put colour on the top nad bottom if a background is not  big enough.   new GDM screen.   KDE 4.2.  better atheros wireless suppourt, and things
[20:53] <zanberdo> BobCFC, thanks
[20:53] <sebsebseb> admin_masu3701: optional Ext4 file system
[20:53]  * mikemikemike1234 already upgraded....everything works apart from atheros 5006 wi-fi
[20:53] <orudie> sebsebseb -> so when do you think  you are going to do clean install, i'm thinking to do it in about 4 hours
[20:53] <alinon> DarthFrog: virtualbox has really come a long way for real! - it lets me keep that virus ridden OS confined !
[20:53] <Popoi> congratulations for the new release!!
[20:53] <PassePartouT> anyone have a minute (or two :P) to help me out, i'm trying to get my wired connection on a computer to work, ifconfig is showing what i presume the errors to be in "TX errors:17 etc carrier:17"
[20:53] <DarthFrog> alinon: As it should be. :-)
[20:54] <mikemikemike1234> so how do you get atheros cards to work now?
[20:54] <Miles1> i love intel wlan cards
[20:54] <DarthFrog> PassePartouT: Check your ethernet cable.
[20:54] <SeViLLa> acr0nym: the ext4 file system doesnt come by default though does it
[20:54] <moepMan1> hi folks... my girlfriend has ubuntu 9.04 installed but her 21" monitor just gives her a resolution of 800x600. she has a s3 savage 8 graphics adaptor and a hitachi cm823F monitor... can somebody please help?
[20:54] <jpnub> sevilla: no
[20:54] <Miles1> are there supposed to be any updates for 9.04rc?
[20:54] <office> sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic linux-backports-modules-`uname -r`
[20:54] <mikemikemike1234> no...u have to  make a clean install
[20:54] <office> sudo modprobe ath5k
[20:54] <PassePartouT> DarthFrog it should work fine, i had internet on winxp in the same setup not 24hrs ago
[20:55] <sebsebseb> orudie: I am not in a rush,  this install I got is  ok really,  I can do my actsaul computur usage with it.   however it's not quite the full experience, but by what I have seen of 9.04,  and  with all my Ubuntu experience I know that 9.04 isn't that amazing really.
[20:55] <tmadden> has anyone tried release 9.04 yet? is it stable?
[20:55] <admin_masu3701> nice....i hope my wireless card will work cause i had problem when i was using 9.04 beta..the card couldnt work
[20:55] <acr0nym> nope SeViLLa :) but as far as I remember you couldn't use it with 8.10
[20:55] <Miles1> lol it should be stable
[20:55] <sebsebseb> orudie: I probably clean install this weekend,  the download servers will be packed now
[20:55] <iGama> Miles1, if you have updated the system it is the final
[20:55] <mikemikemike1234> stable..
[20:55] <PassePartouT> DarthFrog could something else be stopping it? maybe a router? or does it sound like the cable
[20:55] <PorkChop_> does anybody know why clicking on a wireless network in network-manager it creates a new entry called "Auto <network-name>" if network is already configured?
[20:55] <iGama> tmadden, very stable
[20:55] <jpnub> tmadden: Has been for the past few months
[20:55] <Miles1> so i can update 9.04rc to final
[20:55] <Miles1> thanks
[20:55] <DarthFrog> PassePartouT: Do you have another one you can swap it with?  Check the connections.
[20:55] <Miles1> but updates are slow.... and cannot get repo info
[20:55] <orudie> sebsebseb -> yes, im actually updating my server its going only at 40 kb/s :(
[20:55] <uni4dfx> does mounting an ext3 filesystem as ext4 instead improve performance or do you need to enable the new ext4 features?
[20:55] <sebsebseb> admin_masu3701: yeah I hope so to, because the wireless issues' were so common with 8.10.  not Ubuntu's fault though,  wireless manufactures yes
[20:56] <PassePartouT> DarthFrog yeah i'll take a look for another then come back
[20:56] <moepMan1> my girlfriend has ubuntu 9.04 installed but her 21" monitor just gives her a resolution of 800x600. she has a s3 savage 8 graphics adaptor and a hitachi cm823F monitor... can somebody please help?
[20:56] <iGama> Miles1, did you do an update in the last 3 days?
[20:56] <DarthFrog> PassePartouT: It sounds like an ethernet issue, not a TCP/IP issue.
[20:56] <iGama> Miles1, if yes, you have the final version
[20:56] <Miles1> yes about 12 hours ago and got a couple
[20:56] <sebsebseb> uni4dfx: you can do something to Ext3 to get partial  Ext4 suppourt, you need to clean install and set up proper Ext4 partitions yourself, for the full experience
[20:56] <acr0nym> moepMan1, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[20:56] <jpnub> PassePartouT: if you are using a pci ethernet card make sure it is plugged in all the way?
[20:57] <admin_masu3701> but i will give it a try again
[20:57] <admin_masu3701> hope it works fine
[20:57] <uni4dfx> sebsebseb: yeah i thought so
[20:57] <PorkChop_> another question: I upgraded to 9.04 today, but lsb_release -d says "Ubuntu jaunty (development branch)"
[20:57] <sebsebseb> uni4dfx: also apparnatly Ext4 well  the file system  I guess is alright, but Ubuntu's kernel needs some changes for it really
[20:57] <PassePartouT> jpnub i know the card is fine, i'll try the cable but i'm skeptical cause i know the cable works, hopefully i kicked it out or something, lol, let me go see what it says when it fails to connect
[20:57] <PorkChop_> this sounds like it's not the 9.04 final?
[20:57] <admin_masu3701> whats the deal with the ext4?
[20:57] <ubuntu_> hi all problem with instalation grub 22 error
[20:58] <sebsebseb> PorkChop_: maybe they forgot to update that
[20:58] <Destinatus> i can't get any kind of 3d/opengl to work.
[20:58] <KenBW2> can anyone help me getting Google Reader to work offline?
[20:58] <Destinatus> need some help
[20:58] <mrwes> hrmm...can't grab the alternate install iso torrent; anyone else have issues with that?
[20:58] <Champain> ext4 is new and buggy but its faster than ext3
[20:58] <sebsebseb> Destinatus: you got your graphics card driver installed?
[20:58] <BobCFC> mrwes, , try  http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
[20:58] <Destinatus> sebsebseb: yes. nvidia 1.80
[20:58] <sebsebseb> Champain: it's an odd one, some people say it's buggy,  others say they use it, and that it works great
[20:58] <Miles1> 9.04 is supposed to be about ~4gb right
[20:58] <mrwes> BobCFC, gotcha -- thanks
[20:58] <uni4dfx> so bottom line: don't use ext4 yet
[20:59] <reinis> your download page sucks
[20:59] <alinon> hopefully by the time the next distro is out, ext4 will be stable
[20:59] <sebsebseb> Miles1:  for an upgrade or clean install?
[20:59] <reinis> where are the .torrents?
[20:59] <xemacs4321> Destinatus, i have complete torrent for am64 alternative
[20:59] <reinis> why doesn't it tell me the size of ISOs?
[20:59] <sebsebseb> Miles1: a clean install of Ubuntu takes up about 1GB
[20:59] <reinis> WTF
[20:59] <mrwes> BobCFC, that's the mutha load aye? heh
[20:59] <Miles1> install with 9.04rc, updated, then some prog tools
[20:59] <sebsebseb> reinis: the ISO will be like 700MB
[20:59] <scunizi> sebsebseb: the difference being some remember the beta testing and don't know anything about the fixes that have been done
[20:59] <Dada_> Hi there. I'm trying the new Ubuntu in a virtual machine. Apparently the user is logged out immediately after the boot is  complete. It's now looping between logging in the Live CD user and returning to the login screen. This a known problem? :)
[20:59] <sebsebseb> reinis: CD size
[21:00] <rski> Dada_: nope
[21:00] <CaneToad> better to upgrade online or from installation CD?
[21:00] <BobCFC> mrwes, yes the SHA1s seem to be wrong on that list get them from the other page if you need them
[21:00] <graingert> CaneToad, online
[21:00] <alinon> Dada_: why use virtualmachine? that's not a natural environment
[21:00] <rski> CaneToad: dosen't matter
[21:00] <reinis> sebsebseb: thanks, but that's not what I'm asking
[21:00] <sebsebseb> scunizi: what are you trying to say?  and yeah their is a lot of ignorance when it comes to Ext4 in 9.04,  if it's stable enough or not etc
[21:00] <PorkChop_> can somebody who did a clean install from scratch of 9.04 show me their output from lsb_release -d ?
[21:00] <Dada_> alinon: not natural environment, sure, but no other version has done that.
[21:00] <CaneToad> graingert: why do you say online?
[21:00] <BobCFC> mrwes, but torrent does error checking anyway bit pointless
[21:00] <wallacejbj> reinis 32 or 64 bit?
[21:00] <Destinatus> when i run glxdemo i get: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[21:00] <reinis> 32
[21:00] <wallacejbj> http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[21:00] <Dada_> alinon: actually, "not natural environment" is sort of a moot point, don't you think?
[21:00] <mrwes> BobCFC, I'm all good now
[21:00] <graingert> CaneToad, becuase you lose data if you upgrade from cd
[21:01] <ccaron> Why does the alternate install upgrade insists on downloading packages?
[21:01] <alinon> Dada_: if the devs don't develope it for that intended virtual hardware, then nuff said
[21:01] <scunizi> sebsebseb: just saying that those saying ext4 is buggy don't always have personal experience.. they're just parroting previous reports b4 the fixes
[21:01] <KenBW2> can anyone help me getting Google Reader to work offline?
[21:01] <PassePartouT> DarthFrog it's saying "the network connection has been disconnected" now though i think it was saying something else before like that it couldn't get an address, the cable works because the lights on my hub are blinking, could my router be owning my connection?
[21:01] <BobCFC> i've been running ext4 for months without issue on 4 drives
[21:01] <sebsebseb> scunizi: apprnatlly  the file system is pretty good now really, but the kernel still needs some changes for Ext4 really?
[21:01] <iGama> PorkChop_, Description:	Ubuntu 9.04
[21:01] <Dada_> alinon: that's a bit of an easy way to talk yourself out of a very strange error that occurs only with the latest Ubuntu.
[21:01] <office> KenBW2, eys
[21:01] <office> KenBW2, yes
[21:02] <PorkChop_> iGama: thanks
[21:02] <KenBW2> office: cool, i have Gears installed and it works fine for gmail
[21:02] <Oded> PorkChop_, "Ubuntu 9.04"
[21:02] <Dada_> By the way, the new installer looks amazing guys.
[21:02] <Hexch> do some of you work with dreambox ?
[21:02] <CaneToad> graingert: are you saying there's no true upgrade path with the cd, only reinstall?
[21:02] <KenBW2> office: but google reader sort of half loads the page, but no feeds when offline
[21:02] <PorkChop_> i wonder why mine says Ubuntu jaunty (development branch) then :)
[21:02] <graingert> CaneToad, I think so, you can use the cd as a repo
[21:02] <ccaron> Anyone had success with the 9.04 alternate installer?
[21:02] <Dada_> Also, I see that the text anti-aliasing is now under different default settings, BIG +1 frmo me
[21:02] <DarthFrog>  Hmm, the system just threw up a notification but it cleared before I could read it.  How do I get it back??
[21:02] <sebsebseb> PorkChop_: did you have a previous development version?
[21:03] <scunizi> CaneToad: only the alternate install cd offers cd upgrades
[21:03] <PorkChop_> no
[21:03] <PorkChop_> i had 8.10
[21:03] <alinon> Dada_: feel however you want about it, but if you try submit a bug on launchpad, i'm sure you'll be ignored o.o
[21:03] <Jeruvy> KenBW2: I'm not sure if you could, wouldn't you have to pre-cache all the feeds locally or via proxy?
[21:03] <c_korn> does anyone else have no sound in jaunty?
[21:03] <sebsebseb> PorkChop_: ok  get someone else to  find out what it says for them, that did a clean install of the final
[21:03] <sebsebseb> !sound |  c_korn
[21:03] <PorkChop_> and about 6 hours ago I started upgrade by clicking "Ugrade Distribution" or something like that
[21:03] <KenBW2> Jeruvy: i mean using Google Gears
[21:04] <Dada_> alinon: I'm not sure about that! Users should be able to expect that there are no serious system breaking defects in virtualized hardware, right? It's not like Ubuntu is developed "only for real hardware", especially since virtualization is rather popular in some settings.
[21:04] <Oli``> I've had flash set up the same way since Pulseaudio came out (ie through ALSA). Is there any way of doing it without sending the audio through ALSA, and if so, what do I need to unbreak?
[21:04] <ccaron> Why does the alternate install upgrade insists on downloading packages?
[21:04] <Jeruvy> KenBW2: ah I haven't tried that myself..yet.
[21:04] <joseph14> hi
[21:04] <PassePartouT> need internet help with "the network connection has been disconnected" error and eth0 is showing TX carrier:XX errors
[21:04] <Praetor_Khan> What's the word on ext4?  I'm getting mixed signals everywhere I look.  Some ramble on about how much better it is while others are talking about it breaking there system.
[21:04] <graingert> Oli``, it goes flash->alsa->pulseaudio
[21:04] <xerxes> How can I configure sound, so it is enabled by default?
[21:04] <joseph14> my VGA card is not working after installing ubuntu 9.04
[21:04] <alinon> Dada_: they created the livecd for a reason, there's no reason to use anything else
[21:04] <c_korn> !Players | c_korn
[21:04] <negge> I have 8 GB of RAM installed and I'm using 64-bit Ubuntu. The system monitor is telling me I'm only using 11% of the memory, and then I have around 10 applications running including a Vista in a virtual machine which is booting at the moment. Shouldn't it be utilizing way more?
[21:04] <wallacejbj> probably a lazy thing to ask but is there a way or resizing multiple desktop icons at once? i know you can stretch one icon but not multiple at least not that i know of
[21:05] <alinon> if you are just wanting to test your hardware that is
[21:05] <saxin> Praetor_Khan: Well.. tbh its not that big diffrence...
[21:05] <ccaron> Why does the alternate install upgrade insists on downloading packages?
[21:05] <joseph14> but ubuntu 8.10 was working \
[21:05] <rski> negge: nope
[21:05] <Oli``> graingert: that's how I've got it set up... I was asking if Flash has improved enough so I could drop the ALSA component
[21:05] <matreya6> Well, it looks like the update servers are overloaded again...
[21:05] <scunizi> alinon: unless of course you want encryption, or lvm or other things that are only available on the alternate cd
[21:05] <graingert> negge, perhaps you have forgotton about cache
[21:05] <graingert> Oli``, no
[21:05] <Jeruvy> ccaron: probably because the sources.list is telling it to?
[21:05] <graingert> Oli``, :-p
[21:05] <Dada_> alinon: look, regardless, my argument is that it doesn't work and yours is that you don't care about my use case. I don't think the developers would make that argument!
[21:05] <SandGorgon_> !staff
[21:05] <negge> rski: so that means none of my programs need more at the moment?
[21:05] <wallacejbj> @matreya6 flash works loads better imo
[21:05] <negge> graingert: swap is at 0 MB
[21:05] <SandGorgon_> oops sorry
[21:05] <skaidrius> pls help. i cant play video on any player. they plays only sound or nothing. before jaunty all was ok
[21:05] <Pici> SandGorgon_: ?
[21:05] <qbrix> Will the amd64 version of Ubuntu work for my 64bit Xeon box?
[21:06] <negge> qbrix: yes
[21:06] <rski> yep
[21:06] <SandGorgon_> i was pasting somewhere else
[21:06] <qbrix> great, thx
[21:06] <Pici> SandGorgon_: Please don't use that.
[21:06] <iGama> qbrix, its for 64bits
[21:06] <alinon> Dada_: i highly doubt they would aknowledge it at all haha
[21:06] <PassePartouT> need internet help with "the network connection has been disconnected" error and eth0 is showing TX carrier:XX errors
[21:06] <ccaron> Should I do anything more than: gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" ?
[21:06] <joseph14> my VGA card is not working after installing ubuntu 9.04   please help me !!
[21:06] <matreya6> wallacejbj, Uhm? What does does this have to do with a Jaunty Upgrade?
[21:06] <alinon> but opinions are like allot of things, everyone has one
[21:06] <kmwhite> joseph14: a little more info might help
[21:06] <joseph14> ok
[21:07] <sebsebseb> joseph14: graphics card you mean?
[21:07] <wallacejbj> sorry i thought you were asking if flash was any better
[21:07] <Dada_> alinon: actually, there are plenty of virtualization tickets in the Launchpad which have importance tags and committed fixes.
[21:07] <joseph14> my VGA card is not working in my laptop dell inspiron 1525
[21:07] <joseph14> sebsebseb ,yes
[21:07] <alinon> here's a cookie hehe
[21:07] <sebsebseb> joseph14: is it old?
[21:07] <PassePartouT> any suggestions please???? need internet help with "the network connection has been disconnected" error and eth0 is showing TX carrier:XX errors
[21:08] <PassePartouT> it is not a cable problem
[21:08] <matreya6> wallacejbj, Well, on that I have to say that the version of gnash that I use on my Ubu 8.10 box doesn't work with many sites.
[21:08] <joseph14> no
[21:08] <matreya6> wallacejbj, I hop that the new gnash version included with jaunty does a better job
[21:08] <PassePartouT> any suggestions please???? need internet help with "the network connection has been disconnected" error and eth0 is showing TX carrier:XX errors
[21:08] <alinon> while your there, submit a ticket of your own or find one that's already been submitted for the issue
[21:08] <joseph14> do wanna give you the info about the VGA card ?
[21:08] <c_korn> I checked all alsa settings but there is still no sound
[21:08] <sebsebseb> Gnash and Swfdec are nice, but will always be behind Adobe Flash.     yucky propritary formats
[21:09] <kmwhite> joseph14: please. Also, can you elaborate on 'not working'? Are you getting NO display at all, or Xorg fails to launch?
[21:09] <guntbert> !repeat | PassePartouT
[21:09] <theuser1>  i am trying to ssh making my pc as the server and as the client. i use dsl through a router (modem) . its stuck on  Connecting to 119.152.52.13 [119.152.52.13] port 22..i give my internet ip in ssh -v ip . can any one guidE?
[21:09] <mrwes> PassePartouT, you are on a cable modem? with or without a router behind that?
[21:09] <PassePartouT> cable with a router behind it
[21:09] <joseph14> i meant the visual effects
[21:09] <PassePartouT> wired connection
[21:09] <joseph14> kmwhite i meant the visual effects
[21:09] <ccppz> tooltips in kubuntu with kde4.2 are only showing for a fraction of a second (in GTKPod); is there a way to fix it?
[21:09] <Dada_> alinon: by the way, 666 pages matching my virtualization software in Launchpad (coincidence? :)
[21:10] <mrwes> PassePartouT, did you power each down everything, and then power back up; cable modem first, then the router, then the PC
[21:10] <joseph14> so that's mean the VGA card wan't work
[21:10] <minimec> joseph14: so you have working graphics but no visual effects?
[21:10] <xerxes> Dada: No, youre cursed
[21:10] <matreya6> sebsebseb, I agree with you on that, but many YouTube movies will only play correctly on Adobe Flash, not on Gnash
[21:10] <kmwhite> joseph14: Ok, so the graphics card is working, accelleration is not. Is this an intel card?
[21:10] <mrwes> PassePartouT, couple minutes inbetween each too
[21:10] <alinon> Dada_: like i said...here's a cookie :) and while your there find a ticket that relates to your problem or submit your own =D
[21:10] <joseph14> yep!
[21:10] <sebsebseb> matreya6: yep so use Adobe Flash
[21:10] <alinon> Geez!
[21:10] <joseph14> kmwhite yes
[21:10] <PassePartouT> mrwes ah maybe not, i'll try restarting once more, i did it the other way e.g. powered down cable, router but had pc on, i'll go try it again
[21:10] <Dada_> alinon: yes
[21:10] <joseph14> it's intel
[21:10] <progre55> so, is it out yet???
[21:11] <canfly> oh my.
[21:11] <mrwes> PassePartouT, it's more about the order when you power back up
[21:11] <progre55> I mean, Jaunty :)
[21:11] <joseph14> is there any solution ?
[21:11] <kmwhite> joseph14: do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file or no?
[21:11] <PassePartouT> mrwes because the error message that pops up in a bubble did change after i restarted the modem and router
[21:11] <Dada_> ack. no advanced search?
[21:11] <billybigrigger> whats the best way to restart my soundsystem?
[21:11] <nightrid3r> progre55: yup
[21:11] <mrwes> PassePartouT, gotta do the pc last
[21:11] <dtchen> billybigrigger: using what base?
[21:11] <matreya6> sebsebseb, Couldn't install that properly, but it is not on the top of my list. Other things are much more important to me.
[21:11] <billybigrigger> sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
[21:11] <billybigrigger> ???
[21:11] <PassePartouT> mrwes at first it was saying it couldn't get an ip and then it said it was getting d/c from the network
[21:11] <joseph14> i don't know ,
[21:11] <progre55> nightrid3r, cool, thanks! I'll go upgrade! )
[21:11] <mrwes> PassePartouT, I know -- I saw you posts :)
[21:11] <dtchen> billybigrigger: no, that's the system-wide daemon method. we don't use the system-wide daemon by default.
[21:11] <SoftCoder> Anyone who how to get hotway working with evolution in ubuntu 9?
[21:12] <sebsebseb> matreya6: by the way  Flash for video really does suck on sites,  Firefox 3.1  has a soloution :)    Firefox 3.1 will be out soonish and  it has HTML 5 suppourt, which means they have suppourt for   new  <video> and <audio> tags and it has built in suppourt for OGG :)   so no need for plugins then for video,  but of course Internet Explorer won't suppourt such good standards,  so  Flash for videos on sites will remain :(
[21:12] <Kai_wp> So if you installed the latest Jaunty Jackalope release candidate, should there be updates to make it the final version since it's out now?
[21:12] <PassePartouT> mrwes, i'll let you know how it goes, ty for the help i might wait a bit though cause apparently i downloaded 8.10 last night and so i'm getting the 9.x right now
[21:12] <dtchen> billybigrigger: what's the real issue? (you can restart it with: killall pulseaudio; start-pulseaudio-x11)
[21:12] <billybigrigger> dtchen, ok, well i just closed a freenx session and when i did i lost my audio, audicious wont play audio anymore, how can i reset the sound server?
[21:12] <mrwes> PassePartouT, I'll be here
[21:12] <joseph14> mr. kmwhite , yes i have
[21:12] <PassePartouT> mrwes cheers
[21:12] <mrwes> PassePartouT, remember the correct power up order..OK?
[21:12] <PassePartouT> mrwes ya :)
[21:12] <dtchen> billybigrigger: well, did you nesure that your volume isn't muted?
[21:12] <utferd> hi
[21:12] <mrwes> PassePartouT, cable modem, router , PC
[21:12] <dtchen> ensure*
[21:12] <SoftCoder> Anyone? - #ubuntu
[21:13] <vart___> Kai_wp
[21:13] <progre55> nightrid3r, hmm.. it's not in my package manager yet :)
[21:13] <SoftCoder> how to get hotway (hotmail) working with evolution in jaunty?
[21:13] <vart___> Kai_wp : just regular update of packages
[21:13] <utferd> is there a way to understand my flash disk bootable?
[21:13] <mrwes> Ok...I'm seeding -- doing my part to feed the sharks!
[21:13] <joseph14> kmwhite do you have a solution?
[21:13] <matreya6> sebsebseb, sounds really nice, but as long as it is not widely adopted, it's not really that useful. It *is* a good step forward, though.
[21:13] <billybigrigger> dtchen, yes i was in the middle of listening to music, i must have freenx configured to use sound as i heard the ubuntu startup sound when i started the freenx session, upon closing it, the mp3's i had playing in audacious suddenly stopped and now i have no audio
[21:13] <nightrid3r> progre55: it's in update manager
[21:13] <progre55> nightrid3r, do I need to download it in order to upgrade? or can I do it using the package manager?
[21:13] <sebsebseb> matreya6: well basically every popular browser will suppourt that, except IE :(
[21:13] <vart___> SofCoder : hotmail has a pop3 support
[21:14] <Lyth1> how do I go from the RC to 904
[21:14] <sebsebseb> matreya6: IE most lose market share big time,  same thing for Windows really,   Micrsooft really do hold computing back big time
[21:14] <Praetor_Khan> Is it better to do a fresh install or just let the update manager handle it.  Bear in mind my current Ibex install is only a few weeks old.
[21:14] <alinon> vart___: i believe you have to pay for pop3 support
[21:14] <qbrix> well this download act as a Live CD? -> http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent
[21:14] <progre55> nightrid3r, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, isnt it? :)
[21:14] <SoftCoder> how do i config evolution for hotmail then?
[21:14] <mrwes> progre55, the upgrade manager is really slow right now, you can download the alternate install iso and upgrade from that
[21:14] <matreya6> sebsebseb, Since IE has around 81% market share still, web developers are still more or less forced to produce dual code
[21:14] <progre55> mrwes, okay, thanks
[21:14] <Kai_wp> vart__: But the updates should make the release candidate into the final release?
[21:14] <vart___> alinon: not anymore
[21:15] <vart___> Kai_wp : yes
[21:15] <kmwhite> sorry joseph14 , you'll have to forgive me. I'm actually at work now trying to do multiple things :(
[21:15] <sebsebseb> matreya6: yeah, but at  in the next 2 weeks or so,  most Windows users will be asked if they want  to install IE8, and then hopefully at last after  9 years, IE6 can finally die
[21:15] <alinon> SoftCoder: use thunderbird with the webmail addon if all else fails
[21:15] <qbrix> Does both the Server and Desktop version act as a LiveCD ??
[21:15] <lepine1> has anyone every tried using IEs4linux? to have IE
[21:15] <kmwhite> joseph14: I missed the response. Did you have the xorg.conf file?
[21:15] <sebsebseb> matreya6: yeah, but atleast above
[21:15] <CorpRattX> wooo people
[21:15] <lepine1> i'm getting installation errors
[21:15] <CorpRattX> hello everyone
[21:15] <kelli> what is ubuntu 9.04 like?
[21:15] <mrwes> progre55, instructions are here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[21:15] <kmwhite> sebsebseb: Wahoo!
[21:15] <billybigrigger> dtchen, so how do i get my sound back, besides rebooting my pc? how can i restart the sound system
[21:15] <mrwes> kelli, 0.94 better than 8.10
[21:16] <joseph14> kmwhite just give me any thing to solve it please :(
[21:16] <billybigrigger> dtchen, killall pulseaudio, and start it again?
[21:16] <qbrix> Does both the Server and Desktop version act as a LiveCD ??
[21:16] <vart___> hotmail pop3 http://www.firetrust.com/en/blog/chris/hotmail-now-with-free-pop3-and-imap-access
[21:16] <sebsebseb> matreya6: and Ubuntu has most of  Desktop Linux's market share,  and  when it has enough users, well  it's a bit wine to a lot of good software :)
[21:16] <matreya6> sebsebseb, sounds lovely, but I heard that IE8 will only be available for Vista and up...
[21:16] <sebsebseb> kmwhite: what?
[21:16] <mrwes> qbrix, server is NOT a live CD
[21:16] <CorpRattX> anyone run the e107  content managment system on their server ?
[21:16] <sebsebseb> matreya6: I think IE8 runs on XP to
[21:16] <CorpRattX> or any CMS?
[21:16] <kelli> how much better
[21:16] <qbrix> ok thx
[21:16] <CorpRattX> yeah ie8 works on XP
[21:16] <kmwhite> joseph14: I wish I could. If you don't have an xorg.conf file, then X11 is trying to guess your information. I had a buddy who had one and just had to change the 'vesa' driver to 'intel' for it to work
[21:16] <PhotoJim> qbrix: most server installations are shell only, no gui.
[21:17] <kmwhite> sebsebseb: IE6 dying.
[21:17] <sebsebseb> matreya6: uh typed wrong thing,   when Ubuntu has enough market share,  think about it,  it's a big win  to a lot of good software,   Firefox,  Open Office,  etc etc
[21:17] <nightrid3r> CorpRattX: joomla
[21:17] <Lyth1> Will the update amanger update to 9.04
[21:17] <magcius> Is us.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[21:17] <magcius> It's timing out for me.
[21:17] <matreya6> sebsebseb, I like Ubuntu, but I'm going to try Kubuntu for my next upgrade if the programs bundled with ubuntu still hide so many options.
[21:17] <joseph14> kmwhite i told i have xorg.conf
[21:17] <guntbert> !ot | kelli
[21:17] <centyx> Lyth1: yesh
[21:17] <proq> magcius: it's overburdened due to rc
[21:17] <sebsebseb> matreya6: hide so many options?
[21:17] <Lyth1> Doesn't seem to be working
[21:17] <kmwhite> joseph14: I didn't see the scroll back. Sorry. what's the driver line for the video card say?
[21:18] <BobCFC> magcius, try ca lol
[21:18] <magcius> BobCFC, how do I change it?
[21:18] <IRWolfie-> do-release-upgrade is reporting its on the latest distro, lsb_release -a says im still on 8.10
[21:18] <magcius> BobCFC, and is there only one server on us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[21:18] <mrwes> magcius, torrent is the way to go my friend
[21:18] <Lyth1> Can I update from a downloaded live disk, or can Ionly do fresih installs that way
[21:18] <sebsebseb> kmwhite: indeed, but if it was Windows losing  market share big time, that would be even better,   that  would  also force Microsoft to   properly improve their software.   the amount of stuff they get away with, because they have most of the market
[21:18] <Zlogger> hi
[21:18] <joseph14> kmwhite  http://www.mibbit.com/pb/kuROOH
[21:18] <BobCFC> magcius, System->Admin->Software Sources
[21:18] <Carcophan> has anyone here too got problems with intel accelerated graphics performance on jaunty?
[21:18] <magcius> mrwes, ..I'm installing through apt-get.
[21:18] <CorpRattX> night what do you think of it ?
[21:18] <LordMetro> I upgraded Ubuntu an am now stcuk in initramfs with a message: ALER! /dev/disk/by-uuid/fad54659-128e-4cd5-87f9-bb42badac398 does not exist. Dropping to a shell! What do I do?
[21:18] <sebsebseb> matreya6: by the way KDE3 for 9.04 :)  yay
[21:18] <DrIDK> hello! I want to propose a package for ubuntu. Where I need to go ?
[21:18] <kmwhite> sebsebseb: I agree. It is pretty absurd.
[21:18] <mrwes> magcius, well it'll be slow :)
[21:19] <joseph14> kmwhite i think it's the first one
[21:19] <mrwes> magcius, you can snag the iso via torrent in mintues
[21:19] <kmwhite> sebsebseb: When I used to be a web developer, it was the bane of my existence.
[21:19] <nightrid3r> CorpRattX: i'ts a great system, easy to use and very expandable
[21:19] <matreya6> sebsebseb, Take for instance the comparison between KIIIB and Brasero. Even though the KIIIB version I use is already more than two years old, it gives me the options I need. Brasero is substandard for my burning tasks.
[21:19] <magcius> mrwes, as in, I already have Jaunty, I'm just installing a package.
[21:19] <eml> Hi! I just installed Jaunty through VMWare, and my sound driver doesn't appear to be working. Any tips?
[21:19] <nomasteryoda> thought this channel would be overrun today...
[21:19] <henryrhodesiii> got my official iso  9.04
[21:19] <IRWolfie-> it isnt overrun?
[21:19] <mrwes> magcius, ohh..duh
[21:19] <sebsebseb> kmwhite: yeah  I woudn't have minded becoming a pro web developer, but  well  all the stuff you got to do, so   a really good site, works well in IE to
[21:19] <CorpRattX> yeah it seems solid
[21:19] <iGama> DrIDK, launchpad, go there and open a bug/feature report
[21:19] <centyx> it's nomasteryoda
[21:19] <IRWolfie-> do-release-upgrade is reporting its on the latest distro, lsb_release -a says im still on 8.10,anyone any ideas?
[21:19] <CorpRattX> plus u just write your own modules
[21:20] <PhotoJim> matreya6: a lot of KDE apps work fine under Gnome.  you could try installing the app you prefer and see how it works.
[21:20] <progre55> guys, sorry for such a nooby question.. but I've downloaded the jaunty iso, and now, how to mount it and how to upgrade? :)
[21:20] <Lyth1> Can I use a live disk yo update ubuntu?
[21:20] <PhotoJim> progre55: put it in your CD drive.  the system should automount it and offer to upgrade.
[21:20] <sebsebseb> matreya6: Ubuntu is based on Gnome,  they don't have some of the new Gnome stuff even
[21:20] <CorpRattX> who makes the best CMS ?
[21:20] <centyx> nomasteryoda: and the main ubuntu servers aren't bogged down like normal either :P
[21:20] <mrwes> Lyth1, no... unless it's the alternate install cd
[21:20] <guntbert> !ot | sebsebseb "you too, my son???"
[21:20] <progre55> PhotoJim, I mean, not wasting a CD disc :)
[21:20] <nightrid3r> CorpRattX: i hope so, our entire government is run on joomla
[21:20] <PhotoJim> progre55: use a CD-RW.  that's the easiest way.
[21:20] <kmwhite> joseph14: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep [Dd]river
[21:20] <Lyth1> Ah, so how long should I wait until update manager is no longer busy?
[21:21] <yadu> can someone give me the command to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04?
[21:21] <alinon> guntbert: geez....that was harsh haha
[21:21] <sebsebseb> Lyth1: the weekend?
[21:21] <mrwes> Lyth1, or grab the alternate iso from torrent
[21:21] <progre55> PhotoJim, thanks
[21:21] <eml> Anyone else experiencing troubles with your sound driver in Jaunty?
[21:21] <matreya6> PhotoJim, true...but on 8.10 most of the help files for KDE programs were broken and displayed other quirky behaviour I would not expect on Kubuntu.
[21:21] <centyx> at least they weren't earlier, maybe i spoke too soon
[21:21] <mrwes> Lyth1, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[21:21] <PhotoJim> progre55: if you don't have any there is a way to mount an iso image but it takes a little bit of work.  google should find it for you.
[21:21] <BePhantom> hello all, are there any issues with 9.04 and intel graphics? because desktop effects are kinda slow in my 9.04
[21:21] <CorpRattX> any pros and cons ?on joomla
[21:21] <guntbert> alinon: ? I certainly didn'
[21:21] <PassePartouT> CorpRattX it's often way more than you need
[21:21] <guntbert> t want to be harsh
[21:21] <magcius> BobCFC, wow, thanks, for anybody else having trouble having trouble installing apps, go to Software Sources, and select Choose Best Server.
[21:22] <CorpRattX> i mean the government using it is actually a strike against it...
[21:22] <CorpRattX> hahaha
[21:22] <tas> O:
[21:22] <SoftCoder> hurray!
[21:22] <PhotoJim> matreya6: yes, well, it's an option.  and you can migrate Ubuntu to Kubuntu easily enough.  I migrated my notebook from Kubuntu to normal Ubuntu a couple of years ago.  took a bit of downloading, worked fine.
[21:22] <mrwes> PhotoJim, work to mount an iso? heh?
[21:22] <matreya6> BePhantom, consult the Release notes first please, it has Intel problems written all over it
[21:22] <Killeroid> BePhantom: yeah, there are a couple of problems
[21:22] <CorpRattX> yeah i think so on the way more
[21:22] <alinon> aH oKaY LoL
[21:22] <SoftCoder> evolution works with hotmail without using hotway
[21:22] <PhotoJim> mrwes: yeah, you have to use that loopback trick.  I find it unintuitive.
[21:22] <BePhantom> oh, Killeroid i hope it'll get fixed
[21:22] <proq> magcius: I wonder how you would do that from CLI
[21:22] <PassePartouT> CorpRattX but this would be some questions for #joomla or you could try #silverstripe or #drupal (basically like joomla without steroids, both came from mambo)
[21:22] <mrwes> PhotoJim, or just use gisomount from the repos
[21:22] <haggisbasheruk> Intel problem needs fixed ASAP
[21:22] <CorpRattX> which was why i was wondering how come more people dont use them
[21:22] <tas> Hello
[21:22] <joseph14> kmwhite it doesn't give me anything
[21:22] <PhotoJim> mrwes: that's a new one to me.  I will check it out.
[21:23] <magcius> proq, I don't know, but it queries almost every mirror known to man and selects the one with the least ping time.
[21:23] <mrwes> !gisomount
[21:23] <mrwes> blah
[21:23] <Killeroid> BePhantom:  acouple of people have found fixes. search the forums
[21:23] <CorpRattX> well he can give me an overview without being off topic
[21:23] <matreya6> haggisbasheruk, I agree, even though it does not really impact my nVidia-based GPU's
[21:23] <tas> I'd like to know how to uninstall KDE and all its apps, could anyone help?
[21:23] <magcius> proq, 291 of them to be exact.
[21:23] <BobCFC> magcius, cool
[21:23] <sebsebseb> !puregnome |  tas
[21:23] <alinon> i think intel integrated cards should be banned from laptops, let ati/nvidia handle that
[21:23] <SoftCoder> Anyone wanting to use their hotmail account in jaunty change your hotmail account to point to the servers shown here: http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/01/confirmed-pop3-rolling-out-on-windows-live-hotmail.ars
[21:23] <sebsebseb> tas: why you want to get rid of KDE by the way?
[21:23] <austin_> Hey where should i go to manage/add widgets
[21:23] <SoftCoder> no longer require hotway
[21:23] <mrwes> tas: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[21:23] <tas> Cause I'm using Gnome+AWN, and KDE is only sitting there O:
[21:23] <tas> Thank you
[21:24] <BePhantom> Killeroid, thanks
[21:24] <sebsebseb> austin_: yes you can get some add ons for Gnome/Ubuntu,  but it's not done like Vista
[21:24] <joseph14>  kmwhite http://www.mibbit.com/pb/Etlz3X
[21:24] <Sarthor_> Hi, i have STC Wireless modem (huawei E960 HSDPA Wireless GATEWAY), Working good, but i have Dell 1525 Inspiron Laptop, there is one port for Mobile sim/ship under laptop battry, Can i use that sim in my mobile, is that for 3G or mobile internet?? if Yes. How?
[21:24] <kalexander> if i "cancel" my upgrade to 9.04 that's in progress.. can i resume it at a later time?
[21:24] <austin_> k thanks
[21:24] <sebsebseb> kalexander: no
[21:24] <matreya6> alinon, I don't agree on that. Intel GPU's are generally very efficient when it comes to power use. I wouldn't want to have an nVidia/ ATI card in my servers. Too much power consumption.
[21:24] <manpoole> silly question installing google earth a terminal window has the user afreement and ok at the bottom how do i accept the user agreement enter does not work esc donest what do i type?
[21:24] <kmwhite> joseph14: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.old
[21:24] <kmwhite> joseph14: restartx
[21:24] <mrwes> kalexander, dont do that!
[21:24] <progre55> damn, aparently I dont have a blank CD.. please somebody tell me how to mount the jaunty image and upgrade it? :)
[21:24] <sebsebseb> austin_: in fact I have a link for you
[21:24] <kalexander> haha ok.. thanks guys
[21:25] <tas> Progre, do you have 8.10?
[21:25] <mrwes> progre55, is it the alternate install cd?
[21:25] <sebsebseb> austin_: and by the way if you want  your Ubuntu log in screen to look better,  I hightly recommend the blubuntu gdm screen
[21:25] <tas> As in intrepid?
[21:25] <mrwes> progre55, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading  -- look towards the bottom of the page
[21:25] <matreya6> progre55, don't you have an USB key lying around? You could try installing from that
[21:25] <progre55> mrwes, dont know, just downloaded it :)
[21:25] <alinon> matreya6: actually nvidia has been working on power consumption for some time now along with developing a cpu/gpu combo chip to cut down on power even more
[21:25] <xerxes> How do i do partition encryption with jaunty?
[21:25] <progre55> mrwes, thanks, I'll have a look
[21:25] <mrwes> progre55, well does the file name say alternate?
[21:25] <tas> If you have 8.10/Intrepid, you only need to use the update manager
[21:25] <tas> It'll update straight to Jaunty for you
[21:26] <progre55> mrwes, ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso  that's the name of the file
[21:26] <matreya6> alinon, A bit of competition is healthy for the market. Usually Intel does deliver good quality chips.
[21:26] <joseph14> http://www.mibbit.com/pb/lcNRQp   kmwhite
[21:26] <mrwes> progre55, you can not upgrade from that, you need the alternate install iso
[21:26] <Lyth1> Is there a way to convert a Ubuntu install to Ubuntu Studio?
[21:26] <joseph14> nothing
[21:26] <misho> how to upgrade jaunty rc to full version
[21:26] <fg3> trying to install u904 onto vmware ws6.5.2 -- error during install trying to resume from /dev/disk/by-uuid/....
[21:26] <proq> tas: how stable would you say that is, on a scale of 1 to 10?  10 being works every single time
[21:26] <mrwes> misho, just run the update manager
[21:26] <tlyng> Can anyone here help me with an xorg/intel gma issue? The performance since I've upgraded dropped dramatically. Earlier compiz atleast worked with good performance, after the update it's terrible slow. When trying to speed up things by enabling UXA everything freeze. Is it possible to have the same graphics performance as 8.10 without enabling UXA? (I'm on a macbook with i945 chipset).
[21:26] <mrwes> misho, you probably have it already anyhow
[21:27] <kmwhite> joseph14: I was not clear, sorry. restartx is not a command, it was a directive. Log out and back in to restart X11
[21:27] <progre55> mrwes, oh I see.. I'll try to look for the alternate iso then )
[21:27] <alinon> i guess it doesn't help when i seen 5+ requests for intel chip help in the last 20 minutes haha
[21:27] <misho> mrwes: j did but it isnt there
[21:27] <fg3> then says no resume image, doing a normal boot -- then takes me to a console prompt   (using desktop version)
[21:27] <progre55> mrwes, thanks
[21:27] <tommi69> to update ubuntu 9.04 beta to ubuntu 9.04 i just need to give 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and let it run right?
[21:27] <matreya6> Ah, my distupgrade is almost ready to install...Last packages and counting down to reboot into a lovely new Ubuntu... :-)
[21:27] <joseph14> kmwhite but wait
[21:27] <mrwes> progre55, sure... and it'll be tons faster than waiting on the servers if you get it via torrent
[21:28] <joseph14> when i type "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.old"
[21:28] <joseph14> then coming this words
[21:28] <joseph14> mv: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory
[21:28] <joseph14> but i swear there is xorg.conf
[21:28] <[t0rc]> is there a command to only download the files for 9.04 and then start the install later?
[21:29] <progre55> mrwes, I got the alternate iso now :) thanks man
[21:29] <mrwes> joseph14, use cp not mv
[21:29] <IRWolfie-> get the alternative iso maybe [t0rc]?
[21:29] <[4-tea-2]> [t0rc]: aptitude has a --download-only option, I think. Check the man page.
[21:29] <mrwes> progre55, sure -- you'll do it that way from now on :)
[21:29] <IRWolfie-> and then upgrade from it
[21:29] <IRWolfie-> later
[21:29] <matreya6> progre55, Wow, do you have a really fast connection or waht? ;
[21:29] <TheFunkbomb> Hey, I upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 RC and then got the latest updates today.  In update manager, it shows brasero cd/dvd burning but it's grayed out.
[21:29] <TheFunkbomb> Anyhelp?
[21:29] <joseph14> cp: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory
[21:30] <joseph14> mrwes
[21:30] <progre55> matreya6, yeah, kinda fast, downloaded it in 90 seconds :) 100Mbit
[21:30] <chelz> [t0rc]: if you grab the alternate cd off of a torrent or something, you can mount it or burn it then use it and it'll ask if you want to upgrade
[21:30] <sebsebseb> TheFunkbomb: YES
[21:30] <CaneToad> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/ReleaseAnnouncement is non-responsive .... but why would the upgrader be using that anyway, because my sources.list points to a mirror?
[21:30] <joseph14> mrwes cp: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory
[21:30] <sebsebseb> TheFunkbomb: didn't want caps, anyway yeah
[21:30] <alinon> grrr my upgrade download is trying to stall out for the 3rd time
[21:30] <mrwes> matreya6, you can download the torrent iso's usually within a few mintues
[21:30] <kmwhite> joseph14: , mrwes : he moved the file to /etc/X11/xorg.old
[21:30] <TheFunkbomb> sebsebseb, cool.
[21:30] <sebsebseb> TheFunkbomb: I guess you told it not to install basero  and so it' still there, but greyed out
[21:30] <whattey> is the alternate installation similar to the server installation?
[21:30] <mrwes> kmwhite, ohh
[21:30] <mrwes> heh
[21:30] <BUGabundo> humm so here we are! those from +1 please wave back, so I can say HI
[21:30] <acfrazier> I take it this channel is now QQ about the servers are straining due to failed downloads
[21:30] <[t0rc]> chelz, ahh, gracias
[21:30] <TheFunkbomb> sebsebseb, I did not but my CD/DVD burner is on the fritz
[21:30] <matreya6> * drools on high speed of progre55 (on 1.5 Mbit down here, sniff...)
[21:31] <mrwes> BUGabundo, you gnome-do physco!
[21:31] <alinon> acfrazier: not as bad as one would think
[21:31] <kelli> ubuntu 9.04 worth the up date
[21:31] <ubuntu__> ±Ф¬¬¬
[21:31] <mrwes> BUGabundo, you in the shark tank aye?
[21:31] <TheFunkbomb> oooh I also have another burning software installed.  would that do it?
[21:31] <alinon> ææwhat?!ææ
[21:31] <acfrazier> Well I thought I could get around that by downloading the alternate CD
[21:31] <acfrazier> guess not
[21:31] <sebsebseb> TheFunkbomb:   oh your going to clean install? or?
[21:31] <acfrazier> turns out I have to download another 150 MB
[21:31] <joseph14> kmwhite is that ok then >
[21:31] <joseph14> ??
[21:31] <chelz> [t0rc]: it only includes a section of the stuff you have installed probably though. so i'd wait a few days for the upgrade servers to calm down then try to do your upgrade
[21:31] <mrwes> BUGabundo, did you get any updates today?
[21:31] <matreya6> TheFunkbomb, well XBurn or K3B work fine for me, so that shouldn't be a problem
[21:31] <greencookie> Is there a way for me to save my workspace to make gnome restore windows on log in?
[21:31] <progre55> matreya6, hehe :) where do you come from? )
[21:31] <Nalf> Are there any issues with the repos right now?
[21:32] <nightrid3r> whattey: yes
[21:32] <Nalf> I can't get any updates..
[21:32] <kmwhite> joseph14: yeah. it's just saying the file you are trying to copy is not there; replace it with the xorg.old path
[21:32] <TheFunkbomb> sebsebseb, no, this was an upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 RC and then 9.04 released
[21:32] <matreya6> progre55, the Netherlands
[21:32] <Nalf> apt-get install wont work either.
[21:32] <tommi69> Nalf: i can (italian mirror)
[21:32] <BUGabundo> mrwes: still checking! servers are slow
[21:32] <sebsebseb> Nalf: yep
[21:32] <Atom-AAO> Grrh Intel Graphics needs fixed as soon as possible
[21:32] <LjL> Nalf: slowness due to being release day?
[21:32] <kmwhite> wailt.
[21:32] <progre55> matreya6, hmm.. I c
[21:32] <sebsebseb> Nalf: I guess the load is to much for the repos, so problems
[21:32] <alinon> make that 6 intel problems in the last 20min
[21:32] <progre55> matreya6, okay, I'm gone to upgrade now )
[21:32] <mrwes> matreya6, this burns prefect iso's too; alias burndvd='growisofs -dvd-compat -overburn -Z /dev/dvd=dvd.iso'
[21:32] <DaveWM> anybody know how i can switch between window managers on the fly with the desktop up and running ?
[21:32] <matreya6> progre55, have fun :-)
[21:32] <kmwhite> joseph14: I don't think you have an xorg.conf from your paste
[21:32] <joseph14> so do i have to restart the ubuntu ?
[21:32] <TheFunkbomb> People really need to stop naming their programs as Gnome****
[21:32] <HBX> how do i upgrade from the alternate cd on a netbook
[21:32] <xerxes> What is the difference between gnome and XFCE im unsure between ubuntu and xubuntu...
[21:32] <sebsebseb> DaveWM: don't think you can easilly, or at all
[21:32] <tommi69> DaveWM: i don't think it's possible
[21:33] <DaveWM> hrm
[21:33] <mrwes> !XFCE
[21:33] <tommi69> DaveWM: you should at least need to restart X
[21:33] <mrwes> BUGabundo, I didn't have any
[21:33] <wrice_> In re: Jaunty + Intel chipsets - read the release notes : )
[21:33] <resno> just got the update... its looking pretty nice...
[21:33] <BUGabundo> mrwes: at least FF you should have
[21:33] <vart> HBX: create a USB using this iso
[21:33] <sebsebseb> DaveWM: you could run your other window manager in a vm though, if your computer can handle it,  I know maybe not the best thing for what you want to do, but still a good suggestion I think
[21:33] <HBX> ah ok
[21:33] <LadyBug> xerxes: From practical standpoint Gnome is easier for the beginner. XFCE requires a lot of tweaking.
[21:33] <sebsebseb> DaveWM: vm as in virtual machine to be clear
[21:33] <DaveWM> i don't think that would be ideal
[21:33] <joseph14> kmwhite do i have to log out ?? ??  ?
[21:33] <mrwes> BUGabundo, hrmm... I ran the update manager and nuttin'
[21:33] <Atom-AAO> wrice_> In re: Jaunty + Intel chipsets - read the release notes : )  <<< not a good excuse
[21:33] <oomagoolies> screen -list
[21:33] <DaveWM> yea, i've done alot of playing with vm's
[21:34] <resno> nice job guys!
[21:34] <xerxes> thanx LadyBug
[21:34] <Oprtz> i am downloading 9.04 now, its 70% done
[21:34] <DaveWM> i'm looking to switch between metacity and maximus
[21:34] <manpoole> using ati radeon default drivers in jaunty gives me flckering in google earth even without compiz anyone no a remedy?
[21:34] <henryrhodesiii> you can manage upgrades on a net book by using the usb startup disk creator  and isos  of the systems
[21:34] <ubuntu__> nice sheet
[21:34] <ubuntu__> opps
[21:34] <ubuntu__> nice job
[21:34] <ubuntu__> i mean
[21:34] <eml> I need some help with my sound card drivers, I can't get any sound although it recognizes my sound card (SoundBlaster Audigy 4).
[21:34] <kmwhite> joseph14: no idea, sorry.
[21:34] <mrwes> BUGabundo, nope...nutitn' just ran it again
[21:34] <sebsebseb> DaveWM: yeah I am going virtual machine crazy, when I  put on 9.04  final on the weekend or next week.   I am currently running a upgraded 8.10 to  alpha6, to beta, to rc, install which has some issues as a result
[21:34] <matreya6> TheFunkbomb, I'm all for a universal format that runs on any Window Manager, but it's the difference between design guidelines between for instance Gnome and KDE that throw a spanner into the works...
[21:35] <dtchen> eml: run the following command: ubuntu-bug alsa-base
[21:35] <joshjtl_> hi,  how do i find out what version of xserver-xorg-video-intel i have installed?
[21:35] <BobCFC> night peeps
[21:35] <LadyBug> DaveWM: I just did that. Getting rid of maximus is not easy.
[21:35] <dtchen> eml: use that command to file a bug, then tell me the bug #
[21:35] <BUGabundo> mrwes: do you have Security pocket enabled?
[21:35] <DaveWM> kewl
[21:35] <BUGabundo> mrwes: apt-cache policy firefox
[21:35] <gangsterlicious> stop downloading ISOs so i can update!
[21:35] <BUGabundo> mrwes: $ apt-cache policy firefox | pastebinit
[21:35] <gangsterlicious> can't even install iscsi
[21:35] <DaveWM> yeah,  seems like if you could switch between maximus and metacity quickly,  it'd be ideal for a mobile device
[21:35] <BUGabundo> gangsterlicious: ehehehh
[21:35] <matreya6> *Yay, only one minute to go...
[21:35] <alinon> welp, i'm upgrading now, i should go
[21:35] <alinon> tc all
[21:35] <Lysi_> joseph log out and in again, thats how you start X
[21:35] <ramblex> How do I install the loop module? When i try sudo modprobe loop, I get FATAL: Module loop not found. I'm using 9.04 and this worked in 8.10
[21:35] <LordFDisk> Anyone know that if I press the Update Button in the Update Manager if it will convert to Ext4 format or is that only on a fresh install?
[21:35] <matreya6> alinon, have fun :-)
[21:35] <DaveWM> throw a close and minimize button on your taskbar
[21:36] <DaveWM> heh
[21:36] <eml> dtchen: Mmkay just a sec, I need to register
[21:36] <tommi69> after the packages from beta to final are downloaded how much does it take to install?
[21:36] <Killeroid> gangsterlicious: find a local mirror
[21:36] <ndrame> BUGabundo: latino?
[21:36] <mrwes> BUGabundo, hrmm...http://pastebin.com/f7d94960
[21:36] <BUGabundo> ndrame: but of course...the best kind
[21:36] <_opex_> this definition is wrong, right? it blocks traffic from 213. .. 13, not from 192. .. 13
[21:36] <_opex_> # iptables -A INPUT -s 213.10.10.13 -j DROP
[21:36] <_opex_> This rule blocks any incoming traffic from 192.168.1.13.
[21:36] <vart> LordFDisk : no automatic upgrade of ext3 to ext4
[21:36] <matreya6> LordFDisk, now it won't convert automatically to ext4-format as that fs is too unstable for production use.
[21:36] <Killeroid> LordFDisk: you have to mnaually migrate to ext4. or you can select ext4 on a fresh install
[21:37] <BUGabundo> mrwes: you already have it! you got it and didn't even noticed
[21:37] <ndrame> BUGabundo: soy chileno, y tu?
[21:37] <matreya6> LordFDisk, now => no
[21:37] <sebsebseb> matreya6: to unstable for production use, nonsense I think
[21:37] <ikonia> _opex_: that's "source" input - and can be discused in #iptables or #netfilter
[21:37] <mrwes> BUGabundo, hah...duh! OK -- thanks
[21:37] <fincan> how can I add "libata.ignore_hpa=0" to the kernel command line?
[21:37] <sebsebseb> matreya6: a few issues still  by the sounds of things, but should be good enough for most people
[21:37] <ubuntu__> pa blo ¡¡¡
[21:37] <wiijii> Evening guys n gals. Quick question. I've just installed Xubuntu-desktop on a normal Ubuntu install. But now I have no menus. Any way to convert Gnome menu -> XFCE menu?
[21:37] <BUGabundo> ndrame: that's a bit offtopic, but Portuguese
[21:37] <ubuntu__> saludos
[21:37] <BUGabundo>  !ot
[21:37] <LordFDisk> Kewl thanks Guys you all Rock !!! =)
[21:37] <ikonia> fincan: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and appent it to the kernel line
[21:37] <Killeroid> fincan: check your menu.lst   ( /boot/grub/menu.lst)
[21:37] <HBX> whats the utility to burn the iso to usb
[21:37] <matrixblue> Can anyone send me the Jaunty torrent? The site is being held hostage
[21:37] <LadyBug> I formatted my / with ext4 just now. We'll see if this is a disaster or not.
[21:38] <ikonia> matrixblue: the torrents are all over the place - just be patient
[21:38] <chelz> matrixblue: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[21:38] <tommi69> LadyBug: works pretty well (jaunty beta)
[21:38] <matreya6> sebsebseb, well I won't use a fs if there is a enduring rumor that some of my files will be gone after a reboot X-(
[21:38] <fincan> ikonia: I have to add this line before boot with livecd
[21:38] <Nalf> http://pastebin.com/m32c6cea2 <-- Any ideas?
[21:38] <CaneToad> how do I tell update-manager to not use updates.ubuntu.com?  There's not a single file in /etc that mentions updates.ubuntu.com and yet update-manager is trying to use it anyway.
[21:38] <sebsebseb> matreya6: I think that bug has been fixed
[21:38] <quinten> anyone else noticing far declined flash performance in jaunty?
[21:38] <ikonia> fincan: I think the key equence is F6 to modify boot options
[21:38] <quinten> using intel drivers
[21:38] <sebsebseb> matreya6: also that was really a fault in how Gnome and KDE saved stuff
[21:38] <absence> how can i upgrade to 9.04 and have the removed packages purged instead of just removed?
[21:38] <imbezol> anyone know why they went with so many installation disks? the big difference is just what meta packages are installed is it not? now we have dvd, desktop, alternate, server, netbook, etc... it could all be one disk with a choice at the start!
[21:38] <ubuntu__> ufff
[21:38] <BUGabundo> ok this is too noisy
[21:38] <CaneToad> argh, I mean archive.ubuntu.com
[21:38] <fincan> ikonia:
[21:39] <LjL> MadBoogies: don't change your nickname while connected to mibbit please. part and rejoin
[21:39] <joseph14> kmwhite i've restart the computer
[21:39] <BUGabundo> I just came to say hi! ping me if you need me!
[21:39] <tommi69> absence: check the manpage but i think that adding -purge would do it (check - the - manpage)
[21:39] <ndrame> BUGabundo: i got it, men, can u helpme? got troubles with phpmyadmin, just doesnt work... can u help me?
[21:39] <MyWay> hi all
[21:39] <fincan> ikonia: well could u check this link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dmraid/+bug/219393 plz?
[21:39] <ubuntu__> you are so smart for my level also ---
[21:39] <joseph14> it's not worked :(
[21:39] <xgn> xgn grüßt haldenwang
[21:39] <absence> tommi69: the manpage of what? the gui tool?
[21:39] <LjL> !de | xgn
[21:39] <HBX> what do i use to burn iso to usb
[21:39] <vart> HBX: try unetbootin
[21:39] <chazco> Anyone use "sudo tasksel install lamp" on 9.04? Does it work correctly now?
[21:39] <matrixblue> thanks chelz this is the official release right?
[21:39] <chelz> Nalf: dpkg-reconfigure compiz
[21:39] <ubuntu__> cant get a a single thing
[21:39] <matreya6> sebsebseb, I'll monitor the reactions for a while until it matures enough and after that, well, I might upgrade if the advantages outweigh the disadvantages for me.
[21:39] <eml> dtchen: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/365684
[21:39] <sebsebseb> matrixblue: 9.04 is offical as of today
[21:39] <ndrame> BUGabundo: aps! my english is bad, better is my portugues... irmao...
[21:39] <kmwhite> joseph14: have you read the release notes?
[21:39] <tommi69> absence: yes either the GUI tool or apt-get
[21:39] <chelz> matrixblue: that's the official tracker, notice the "ubuntu.com" also look at the topic :P
[21:39] <greencookie> Anyone else getting stuttering sound after Jaunty clean install on HP laptop?
[21:39] <joseph14> kmwhite no
[21:39] <MyWay> i can't access the ftp of my web site, what can it be? i'm using ufw, does it closes outgoing ports?
[21:39] <sebsebseb> matreya6: what you on now?
[21:40] <DASPRiD> who the ehck translated "channels" to "kanäle" >_>
[21:40] <tommi69> absence: i've actually used -purge only with apt-get
[21:40] <ikonia> fincan: looks a sensible thing to try
[21:40] <_opex_> ikonia 10x :)
[21:40] <joseph14> why ?
[21:40] <matreya6> sebsebseb, ext3
[21:40] <firstimeubunter> hello, first time on ubuntu,, i'm on the live cd...it doesnt have flash, and cant set my display settings :(
[21:40] <sebsebseb> matreya6: on 9.04?
[21:40] <matrixblue> lol thanks again chelz
[21:40] <nightrid3r> DASPRiD: a german
[21:40] <tommi69> rebooting, see you soon
[21:40] <fincan> how can I add "libata.ignore_hpa=0" to the kernel command line before boot with livecd?
[21:40] <chelz> matrixblue: gl remember to seed!
[21:40] <racecar56> im ext3 on 9.04 too
[21:40] <racecar56> because i upgraded from intrepid
[21:40] <sona1> hi there, just installed jaunty on my laptop and now my resolution is 800x600 (it should be 1024x768) - when I check the display settings is says 'monitor: unknown' - any ideas?
[21:40] <DASPRiD> nightrid3r, yeah but thats.... kinda not right :)
[21:40] <ikonia> fincan: as I said, I think the squence is F6 on the boot screen and you just append the line
[21:40] <DASPRiD> or im just not used to that
[21:40] <tyrion_> Hello, I am trying to do a "command line install" of jaunty (with mini.iso on usb) on my eeebox, but it fails on Selecting and Installing Software
[21:40] <kmwhite> joseph14: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904#Performance%20regressions%20on%20Intel%20graphics%20cards
[21:40] <ikonia> fincan: it says press F$something for boot options
[21:41] <ikonia> fincan: I think it's F6
[21:41] <sebsebseb> racecar56: yeah I am on  Ext3 on 9.04 to, well kind of, because I ugpraded  8.10 to alpha6, to beta, to rc,  and have some issues still
[21:41] <matreya6> sebsebseb, not yet, the upgrade manager estimates around 30 minutes to go for final installation. All files have been downloaded though.
[21:41] <ramblex> how can i run a .iso from the hdd?
[21:41] <tyrion_> I've tried to skip the step and install grub, but it fails this step too
[21:41] <eml> dtchen: If you need additional info just ask. I'm totally new to bug reporting.
[21:41] <sebsebseb> racecar56: I am looking forard to clean installing and doing Ext4 this weekend or next week
[21:41] <absence> tommi69: the gui tool doesn't have a purge option :/ i know apt does, but apt doesn't find any packages, so i guess sources has to be sorted out manually, and then there's the upgrade tool not being run, and probably other things i don't know about, so i'd prefer to do it the "proper" way (just without config file leftovers)
[21:41] <fincan> ikonia: well f6 is ok and then I add "break=top"
[21:41] <ubuntu__> sonal, ummmmmm , maybe you should bay a new one=?
[21:41] <tyrion_> Any suggestion?
[21:41] <racecar56> sebsebseb, k
[21:41] <ikonia> fincan: just add the option you want, it sounds easy, and it really is
[21:41] <chazco> Hmm... so are there issues with ext4? I've got / formatted as it (but not /home or the data partitions)
[21:41] <DlGuiga> Hello, i bought a logitech g15 keyboard and i am trying to install g15tools (www.g15tools.com), i have already installed libg15 and libg15 render, both required by g15daemon, but when i try to install g15daemon, on the 'make' part, i keep getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156751 , what am i doing wrong?
[21:41] <racecar56> sebsebseb, ill only reinstall if i have a servious problem
[21:42] <racecar56> sebsebseb, *serious
[21:42] <Nalf> Is apache installed by default?
[21:42] <wiijii> Any way to convert Gnome -> XFCE menus?
[21:42] <fincan> ikonia: well where should I add the option?
[21:42] <ikonia> fincan: when you press F67
[21:42] <ikonia> fincan: when you press F6
[21:42] <joseph14> kmwhite but the xorg.conf is gone now
[21:42] <fincan> ikonia: then?
[21:42] <ikonia> fincan: then boot
[21:42] <archlich> anyone see this error when installing evolution? http://paste.ubuntu.com/156753/
[21:42] <racecar56> how long has ext4 been around?
[21:42] <joseph14> how do i recover it ??
[21:42] <sebsebseb> racecar56: I could use the install I have now for even longer, but I  want the full 9.04 experience with Ext4 :)
[21:42] <ikonia> racecar56: check wikipedia for history
[21:42] <ubuntu__> y7es tjhere ia a  way wiijii
[21:42] <dtchen> eml: you should unmute 'Surround', 'Center', 'Side', 'LFE'
[21:42] <chelz> Nalf: no
[21:43] <ubuntu__> çlet me do it
[21:43] <tyrion_> should I try to install lilo instead? (I cannot understand why It's asking me to select and install software, I just want a minimal system ...)
[21:43] <minerale> Hi, I have a Vaio P (with an Intel GMA 500 graphis driver), I hear there are no drivers past kernel version 2.6.24 but dell ships a ultraportable with Ubuntu 8.04.1 Netbook Remix which supports the driver, can someone help find it ?
[21:43] <kmwhite> joseph14: sudo X -configure
[21:43] <wiijii> ubuntu__ suggestions?
[21:43] <to3000> why do i get a terinalwindow wher a press ctrl+alt+f1
[21:43] <racecar56> sebsebseb, i dont really care... although next time i fresh install i will use ext4
[21:43] <sebsebseb> tyrion_: better to be using Grub if your using Ubuntu
[21:43] <smileboot> could somone send me a copy of the 9.04 desktop torrent?
[21:43] <chelz> minerale: 9.04 should work fine
[21:43] <kmwhite> joseph14: sudo mv /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:43] <fincan> ikonia: normally I use this way => 1. break=top (kernel startup line)
[21:43] <fincan> 2. echo options libata ignore_hpa=0 > /etc/modprobe.d/libata-options
[21:43] <sebsebseb> tyrion_: hardly anyone that uses  Ubuntu uses lilo
[21:43] <ikonia> smileboot: you where told the situation - please stop asking
[21:43] <chelz> smileboot: look at the last url in the topic
[21:43] <kmwhite> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:43] <kmwhite> joseph14: ^^
[21:43] <kmwhite> joseph14: follow instructions on the release notes I linked you to.
[21:43] <MyWay> how can i check if my traffic is enabled outgoing on a specified port?
[21:44] <ikonia> fincan: put it all on one line
[21:44] <tyrion_> sebastien, yes I'am using ubuntu, but the installation stops on "selecting and installing software"
[21:44] <wrice_> to3000: That's a virtual terminal. There are more at ctl+alt+f2, ctl+alt+f3, etc.
[21:44] <kmwhite> joseph14: hope it works for you. I have nvidia and ati cards. There's only so much I can do. Sorry. :\
[21:44] <smileboot> ahh ok  just joinedd aint kept asking :/
[21:44] <racecar56> woah 2006? why didn't ubuntu 6.10 even had it?
[21:44] <benh611> hello I need help
[21:44] <sebsebseb> tyrion_: how are you trying to install?
[21:44] <minerale> chelz: what kernel does 9.04 run? From what I've read so far the Intel GMA 500 has no drivers past 2.6.24 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poulsbo_(chipset) )
[21:44] <fincan> ikonia: no need "break=top"?
[21:44] <Dougshell> when i do partial upgrade when i select start upgrade, my upgrade closes?
[21:44] <Dougshell> any clue as to why
[21:44] <sebsebseb> benh611: with?
[21:44] <sona1> does the xorg.conf still make a difference? it's empty these days
[21:44] <tyrion_> sebastien, I'm doing a command line install of jaunty with a mini.iso (from usb) on my eeebox
[21:44] <SeViLLa> is anyone running 9.04 currentyly
[21:44] <uni4dfx> sona1: yes
[21:44] <ubuntu_> brertter now
[21:44] <to3000> wricw_: how do i get back to normal
[21:44] <sebsebseb> SeViLLa: yeah loads of people
[21:44] <ikonia> fincan: I think you do need it according to that bug report, however there i a line that says you also just need ata_ignore_hpa=0 - so I would try that first
[21:45] <chazco> sona1 - I use nVidia and the xorg.conf is still used quite a lot
[21:45] <vart> minerale:2.6.28
[21:45] <joseph14>  kmwhite only one thing
[21:45] <whattey> can grub boot from ext4 in 9.04 ?
[21:45] <benh611> well I am new to ubuntu and I just installed 8.10 for the first time and I was told that it was going to auto detect my XP so I could have it dual boot
[21:45] <sebsebseb> tyrion_: on your EEPC?   there's a Ubuntu 9.04  netbook remix.  they are promoting that on their homepage to now
[21:45] <SeViLLa> sebsebseb: so.... any comments about it
[21:45] <dtchen> eml: any luck?
[21:45] <joseph14> kmwhite look at this http://www.mibbit.com/pb/jxGkUN
[21:45] <tyrion_> sebastien, sorry, I mean my eeebox
[21:45] <eml> dtchen: Oh well, there were more channels that needed to be unmuted. I'm so stupid... I always assume that those that are needed will be unmuted from beginning.
[21:45] <racecar56> tyrion_, warning: someone said ubuntu netbook was slow
[21:45] <wrice_> to3000: I believe it's ctl+alt+f5? f6? f7?
[21:45] <sebsebseb> SeViLLa: I am not running  the full proper 9.04 yet, because  I  upgraded 8.10 early etc
[21:45] <vart> whattey: yes
[21:45] <benh611> well after I installed it it doesn't show windows in the options when I go to select the OS
[21:45] <whattey> thanks:)
[21:46] <to3000> thanks
[21:46] <sona1> my xorg.conf is basically empty (fresh build) so is that where i need to start to get my resolution back up to 1024x768?
[21:46] <benh611> it only gives me 3 ubuntu options
[21:46] <vart> !grub > whattey
[21:46] <dtchen> eml: is one of them 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack'?
[21:46] <kmwhite> joseph14: you need to stop X before running these commands. Are you on the machine that cannot get accelerated graphics?
[21:46] <eml> dtchen: So yes it's fixed. Although I think these channels should be unmuted during install/first run though?
[21:46] <acero> Hola
[21:46] <eml> dtchen: Exactly
[21:46] <Nalf> Is apache installed with ubuntu by default?
[21:46] <sebsebseb> !es |  acero
[21:46] <chelz> minerale: http://portablemonkey.com/article/vaio-p-with-ubuntu-810/ - this post is for the last version of ubuntu and it works fine so i'd safely assume that 9.04 will also be fine
[21:46] <chazco> Nalf - The desktop edition? Nope
[21:46] <unop> Nalf, not on the desktop version
[21:46] <dtchen> eml: the problem is that we can't unmute that one by default. 70% of users with that control need it to be *muted*
[21:46] <agadashi> sebsebseb, my Network connection got cut as part of the upgrade, continuing the chat from another box
[21:46] <sebsebseb> Nalf: no
[21:46] <tyrion_> sebastien, I tried to skip the steps that fails, but it fails installing grub too
[21:46] <acero> Thx ubottu
[21:46] <sebsebseb> !lamp > Nalf
[21:46] <chelz> minerale: you could torrent the livecd and test at least :)
[21:46] <joseph14> kmwhite yes
[21:46] <Nalf> Thanks, seb.
[21:46] <whattey> !lamp > whattey
[21:47] <benh611> I am needing to know if my xp is now screwed and if ubuntu possibly formatted my drive
[21:47] <matrey6> sebsebseb, my Network connection got cut as part of the upgrade, continuing the chat from another box
[21:47] <sebsebseb> benh611: heh yeah maybe
[21:47] <chelz> benh611: say in detail what you did
[21:47] <tyrion_> sebastien, it says it cannot install grub on "/target/" or something
[21:47] <dtchen> eml: if you'd like to bash someone, go beat on Creative
[21:47] <sebsebseb> benh611: you did a guided install and told Ubuntu to install on your whole hard disk?
[21:47] <mrwes> benh611, did you tell the install to use the 'entire' drive ?
[21:47] <sebsebseb> !Grub > tyrion_
[21:47] <chelz> benh611: how many physical hard drives do you have?
[21:47] <eml> dtchen: No worries. May I suggest a troubleshoot button where these types of problems could be suggested?
[21:47] <[t0rc]> benh611, sudo fdisk -l in shell
[21:48] <uni4dfx> !si
[21:48] <virk> hi everyone
[21:48] <dtchen> eml: we'll be discussing that at UDS
[21:48] <benh611> I know I didn't set it up manually I just had it go automatically to set it up
[21:48] <Lysi_> ﻿﻿to3000: to exit the console ctrl-+alt+f7
[21:48] <wit3tyg3r> how many of you have downloaded Jaunty already?
[21:48] <kelli> what is the best way you go on line with out other sites knowing?
[21:48] <dtchen> eml: it is an intractable problem, however.
[21:48] <eml> dtchen: Cool :)
[21:48] <LjL> !ot | wit3tyg3r
[21:48] <SoftCoder> by the way one last thing about hotmail in evolution... the smtp server must be changes to use TLS (as SSL seems to have issues)
[21:48] <sebsebseb> !ot | wit3tyg3r
[21:48] <archlich> kelli, noscript
[21:48] <kc8pxy> is it just me,   is the reason i can't get updates for 8.04(testing my transparent approx setup) because 9.04 released?
[21:48] <chelz> benh611: or in an ubuntu licevd System -> Administration -> Partition Editor   and look for an NTFS partition
[21:48] <eml> dtchen: Sorry, I don't know what intractable means. :-p
[21:48] <sebsebseb> wit3tyg3r: try  asking that in  #ubuntu-release-party
[21:49] <chelz> kc8pxy: if the servers are timing out, then yes that's likely
[21:49] <virk> I'd like to see gsoap 2.7.13 in the repo, and currently 2.7.9 is in there
[21:49] <nightrid3r> kc8pxy: probably the mirrors are getting hammerd atm
[21:49] <Nalf> And wow.. i hate the slashdot effet.
[21:49] <joseph14> kmwhite
[21:49] <Nalf> Effect, too.
[21:49] <SoftCoder> P.S. Uby 9 is great! It should do some decent damage in the market this year.. looks very nice and runs well
[21:49] <virk> Is there any way I can add it myself?
[21:49] <tyrion_> sebastien, yes, but the problem is: why it's failing on the step "selecting and installing software"? .... should I skip the boot loader step too, and terminate the installation?
[21:49] <sona1> is there any way to generate my xorg.conf to what it should be?
[21:49] <Nalf> Does anyone know about support for usb headsets in 9.04?
[21:49] <DlGuiga> Hello, i bought a logitech g15 keyboard and i am trying to install g15tools (www.g15tools.com), i have already installed libg15 and libg15 render, both required by g15daemon, but when i try to install g15daemon, on the 'make' part, i keep getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156751 , what am i doing wrong?
[21:49] <sebsebseb> SoftCoder: yeah I hope it does :)
[21:49] <benh611> I don't see an option for partition editor
[21:50] <virk> or shoudl I post a question somewhere on launchpad?
[21:50] <racecar56> #launchpad
[21:50] <sebsebseb> Nalf: not sure if the bot is useful for that, but
[21:50] <sebsebseb> !usb >  Nalf
[21:50] <zippyfish> upgrading is sslow :)
[21:50] <kc8pxy> nightrid3r:  kk..   i have a friend beside me, using what is normally a blazing mirror, 150k/s at this location,  crawling @ 35-40k/s :)
[21:50] <zippyfish> via packager manger
[21:50] <sebsebseb> zippyfish: yep, because your doing it on release day, when thousands of other people are also doing it
[21:50] <Nalf> gNope, not useful.:P
[21:50] <Nalf> Thanks, though.
[21:50] <wiijii> Could someone please tell me how to convert gnome menus to XCE?
[21:50] <wiijii> I've just installed xubuntu-desktop
[21:50] <kmwhite> joseph14: ?
[21:50] <ikonia> wiijii: you can't
[21:50] <mrwes> sona1, you can boot into rescue mode and choose xfix
[21:50] <ikonia> wiijii: you have to manually make your menu's
[21:50] <kmwhite> joseph14: I didn't see your response to my q
[21:50] <[t0rc]> is there a channel for LiveUSB of Ubuntu?
[21:51] <wiijii> damn
[21:51] <wiijii> really?
[21:51] <ikonia> wiijii: yes
[21:51] <acr0nym> how can I open users & groups with terminal
[21:51] <chelz> wiijii: convert what? you can install them side by side, but preferences for one don't transition over
[21:51] <wiijii> That will take forever
[21:51] <wiijii> Just the app menus
[21:51] <sebsebseb> tyrion_: not sure
[21:51] <wiijii> Isn't there some python app for it?
[21:51] <wiijii> mmaker
[21:51] <acr0nym> something like: sudo users & groups :P
[21:51] <sebsebseb> !tab  |  tryion
[21:51] <eml> dtchen: Thanks for the help, I shall now continue to explore & get used to gnome.
[21:51] <wiijii> or something
[21:51] <acr0nym> not visudo
[21:51] <FloodBot2> wiijii: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:51] <sebsebseb> !who |  tryion
[21:51] <Nalf> Can you upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?
[21:51] <_matreya6> wiijii, and did you like it?
[21:51] <HBX> after i make the bootable usb with the alternate cd what do i do?
[21:51] <unop> acr0nym,  gksudo users-admin  # i think
[21:51] <ikonia> Nalf: yes
[21:51] <chelz> DlGuiga: following  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LogitechG15 ?
[21:51] <wiijii> _matreya6 sorry?
[21:51] <sebsebseb> tyrion_:   heh  I didn't use tab for those two bot commands see above
[21:51] <nightrid3r> kc8pxy: on day's like today connects on the mirrors are like lemmings jumping off a cliff
[21:51] <acr0nym> unop thanks
[21:52] <joseph14> kmwhite how do i restore xorg.conf plaese
[21:52] <Nalf> Well.. I can't even install lamp right now.. pfft at slashdot effect.:| t.t
[21:52] <unop> acr0nym, a way to find out is to launch the app and look at the process table ...
[21:52] <ikonia> joseph14: back it up before modifying it
[21:52] <kmwhite> joseph14: I just told you.
[21:52] <Nalf> nightrid3r: I agree:P
[21:52] <zippyfish> WHHOO  HOO !!!!UNBUNTU!!!
[21:52] <ikonia> zippyfish: please don't
[21:52] <chelz> Nalf: grab the ubuntu server dvd torrent
[21:52] <Belding> heh
[21:52] <ikonia> zippyfish: this is for support discussion onlly
[21:52] <joseph14> but it's not working
[21:52] <_matreya6> wiijii, the transition to Xubuntu, do you like it? Xubuntu is quite fast, but still not fast enough for my old Pentium 3 Lappy
[21:52] <acr0nym> yep unop it worked fine :)
[21:52] <chelz> Nalf: you'll max out your connection and have all you need
[21:52] <joseph14> kmwhite but it's not working
[21:53] <Nalf> chelz: Thanks.
[21:53] <sebsebseb> zippyfish: do that in #ubuntu-release-party or something
[21:53] <wiijii> _matreya6 well I haven't actually changed to xubuntu - just the xubuntu-desktop. I'm not sure how different it is in terms of the system, if at all
[21:53] <HBX> hey how do i upgrade with the alternate cd on usb
[21:53] <Joeseph> Can I update from Intrepid to Jaunty with a live desktop cd? I know you can with an alternate text installer cd, but it will be more convenient if I can just get the live cd.
[21:53] <vart> wiijii - it is all the difference you have
[21:53] <_matreya6> wiijii, it's more of a choice in programs really, XFCE runs with the Gnome libraries
[21:53] <wiijii> _matreya6 I do prefer XFCE overall though. I used to use Archlinux with XFCE. And it's on my laptop so I wanted something a little lighter. Did setup Openbox once upon a time, that was my favourite wm
[21:53] <kmwhite> joseph14: It's not working because you are currently IN xorg. You need to log out, ctrl+alt+F1, login, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, then run the commands
[21:53] <chelz> HBX: do you have the alternate iso or somehow installed the alternate to a usb drive?
[21:53] <tyrion_> sebastien, I didn't understand, I always used tab to let you see my messages
[21:53] <HBX> yea
[21:54] <slade605> I have to manually update grub after 9.04's patch, anyone know the kernel #?
[21:54] <sebsebseb> tyrion_: your doing the wrong name
[21:54] <tyrion_> sebsebseb, oh, sorry
[21:54] <chelz> slade605: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu - linux on this list
[21:54] <_matreya6> wiijii, Openbox, or Fluxbox, yes, those are among the lightest wm's around...
[21:54] <jpnub> Does anybody here use the new notification system on multiple monitors???
[21:54] <wiijii> I've also just discovered Gnome-Do  total awesomeness. There's another called Launchy which I saw on XP - I think there's a linux version too but gnome do wasin repo
[21:54] <racecar56> blackbox too
[21:54] <benh611> I don't see an option for the partition editor and I need to find out if I can get back to windows
[21:54] <wiijii> jpnub what is the new system? I have dual mons
[21:55] <aymen> slt
[21:55] <sebsebseb> wiijii: yeah there are quite a few add ons you can get for Ubuntu
[21:55] <weather15> whoruns ubuntu completely?
[21:55] <chelz> wiijii: be sure to try out all you can to find the best fit for you. congrats on discovering linux.
[21:55] <wiijii> sebsebseb gnome-do is just an app tho really? How d'you mean addons?
[21:55] <vart> slade605: 2.6.28-11-generic
[21:55] <chelz> weather15: many do :)
[21:55] <jpnub> wiijii: the 9.04 notification system
[21:55] <jameswf> weather15: I do
[21:55] <weather15> who runs ubuntu completely?
[21:55] <wiijii> chelz I've been using linux for about 6 years :D
[21:55] <pepperjack> benh611: ok you have installed ubuntu correct?
[21:55] <_matreya6> benh611, get gparted, that should show you if you still have your Windows partition
[21:55] <jadams_> I've got an nvidia card and I've installed driver 180 as jockey suggests.  When I restart, I just get a blank screen.  dpkg-reconfigure can restore me to the non-nvidia drivers, but I'd like to be able to use them obviously :)
[21:55] <weather15> I'm thinking about it my-self
[21:55] <sebsebseb> wiijii: as in programs that go well with GNome
[21:55] <LjL> weather15: what sort of question is that?
[21:55] <wiijii> jpnub I don't know what you mean
[21:55] <ikonia> weather15: you asked - it's offtopic for this channel which is support discussion
[21:56] <benh611> yes I have
[21:56] <jadams_> weather15, my business (5 employees, 5 years old) runs entirely on ubuntu
[21:56] <benh611> I installed 8.10
[21:56] <Guest30132> i cannot install new programs to 9.04
[21:56] <jadams_> sry
[21:56] <_matreya6> jadams_, strange which nVidia GPU are you using?
[21:56] <joseph14> kmwhite sorry i've restarted firefox and lost the command of restoring Xorg,conf
[21:56] <sebsebseb> Guest30132: sure you can if you know how, do you?
[21:56] <joseph14> please just this time kmwhite
[21:56] <wiijii> sebsebseb Ah I see. Yeah well I'm currently using it with XFCE. I'm not sure where Gnome-do gets its search path from though. If it's the Gnome menu then it won't get updated now I'm not using gnome... I think
[21:56] <jadams_> G72 (GeForce 7300 SE)
[21:56] <jadams_> _matreya6, oops, ping
[21:56] <peeps[work]> is there some page that is a good intro to the updated gnu screen in ubuntu
[21:56] <weather15> so ubuntu must be very reliable if this many people use it completely is it more reliable than windows?
[21:56] <archlich> Guest30132, the repositories are being slammed, keep trying, or try later tonight after traffic subsides
[21:56] <chelz> jadams_: it might be a repo thing. jocky isn't too good about reporting errors. it could be timing out and not actually installing
[21:56] <Guest30132> of course i do, with add remove programs
[21:56] <Joeseph> Does a live cd work to upgrade ubuntu, or is that just the alternate install?
[21:56] <racecar56> jadams_, i have a relative
[21:56] <racecar56> jadams_, nvidia geforce go 7600
[21:56] <ikonia> weather15: try it, see if works for you
[21:56] <Guest30132> ahh h thanks arch thats what i needed to know
[21:57] <wiijii> Anyone else here using gnome-do/launchy
[21:57] <ikonia> weather15: if it works for you is what's important
[21:57] <mrwes> weather15, I feel so
[21:57] <sebsebseb> weather15: yes  Ubuntu might one day be like the new Windows, when it comes to market share, as in having most of the market
[21:57] <ikonia> weather15: why ?
[21:57] <weather15> that I wil
[21:57] <mrwes> wiijii, I use it
[21:57] <ikonia> weather15: sorry - not you
[21:57] <_matreya6> jadams_, should be old enough to be fully supported...
[21:57] <TheFunkbomb> hmm I don't know why this won't update
[21:57] <jadams_> chelz, does jockey just use whatever repo I'm using?  I switched to de mirror for better connection
[21:57] <ikonia> wiijii: why
[21:57] <wiijii> mrwes with Gnome?
[21:57] <kmwhite> joseph14: sudo X -configure && sudo mv /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:57] <weather15> that's okay
[21:57] <wiijii> ikonia why what?
[21:57] <mrwes> wiijii, yep
[21:57] <joseph14> rhank you
[21:57] <ikonia> wiijii: why do you want to know if other people are using it ?
[21:57] <trashguy> anyone hvae any mirros not running at like 20kbps
[21:57] <jpnub> Does anybody here use the new notification system on multiple monitors???
[21:57] <ikonia> wiijii: do you have a problem with it
[21:57] <joseph14> thank you **
[21:57] <sebsebseb> weather15: Ubuntu is the most used   GNU/Linux  distribution
[21:57] <Nalf> Oh my gosh! 12KB/s.. repository go go go! :D
[21:57] <ikonia> trashguy: just keep with it
[21:57] <sebsebseb> weather15: on the desktop
[21:57] <_matreya6> sebsebseb, on the Server side, Red Hat still rules supreme...
[21:57] <wiijii> ikonia Nurp. Just wondering if anyone has used it with XFCE
[21:57] <mrwes> ikonia, works fine for me -- addictive even
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[21:57] <pepperjack> benh611: hmm try opening a terminal and typing: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst    once this opens up in the text editor remove the 'hiddenmenu' line and change timeout 3 to like timeout 20  save then when you reboot you should see your boot menu and the choice for windows.  if it doesn work when you select it that can be fixed (assuming partition is there)
[21:57] <chelz> jadams_: ah yes it should use the new mirror since it uses apt. have you had the driver work for you before?
[21:57] <sebsebseb> _matreya6: yes see above
[21:57] <jpnub> nalf:try using torrrents?
[21:58] <chelz> _matreya6: personal preference :P
[21:58] <ikonia> wiijii: ok - so you do get this is a support channel, not a chat channel ?
[21:58] <weather15> I use desktop but was thinking about using on my server but reliablility is what worries me
[21:58] <Nalf> jpnub: I'm getting the server addition via torrent.
[21:58] <jadams_> chelz, I've been running amd in this machine, so I don't think so
[21:58] <jadams_> I don't know what my home machines are running, successfully...they're both nvidia
[21:58] <weather15> server edition for server
[21:58] <wiijii> ikonia: My support query is that I want to sort out the gnome-do/XFCE menus
[21:58] <mrwes> weather15, I run 8.04.2 server edition
[21:58] <sebsebseb> weather15: 8.04 is best for servers
[21:58] <jpnub> nalf:whats the main difference with the server addition?
[21:58] <admin_masu3701> command /j # ubuntu+1 wont work
[21:58] <wiijii> ikonia Point taken though, I'm looking for a menu generator
[21:58] <ikonia> wiijii: and you've been told you can't convert them, you'll have to make your xfce menu
[21:58] <weather15> nice to know
[21:58] <sebsebseb> weather15: since long term supopurt 5 years suppourt on the desktop
[21:59] <wiijii> ikonia: *you* told me, perhaps someone else has a suggestion
[21:59] <sebsebseb> weather15: uh server
[21:59] <jadams_> chelz, it's stuck at 95% on an apt-get update, so maybe you're right
[21:59] <sebsebseb> weather15: another 4 years of suppourt on the server
[21:59] <rapha> curious ... i thought GRUB couldnt boot into ext4 but it seems to work like a charm
[21:59] <_matreya6> sebsebseb, sorry missed that part "on the Desktop". Channel is kinda buisy right now, messages are more flowing in than trickling ;-)
[21:59] <weather15> very good thing thanks
[21:59] <ikonia> wiijii: 3 people have told you now, see what google says it you don't trust our opinion
[21:59] <Nalf> jpnub: To my knowledge it includes all the server stuff.. MySQl php apache ftp vnc etc.
[21:59] <mrwes> wiijii, if ikonia doesn't know -- that's it :)
[21:59] <chelz> jadams_: that would be my first guess. i'd check if it's actually installing. if you know it's installing and the kernel module is loaded, then it might be another issue
[22:00] <jpnub> nalf: yea ok thats what I thought thanks
[22:00] <jadams_> chelz, nvidia binary programs are installed (nvidia-settings, etc.) and there's no error in the Xorg.0.log
[22:00] <mrwes> weather15, sure...good luck...you need a good how to?
[22:00] <Nalf> jpnub: Sure.
[22:00] <wiijii> mrwes: hehe. nothing's ever that simple :D
[22:00] <sebsebseb> _matreya6: yeah,  very busy channel,   you said  about redhat  at like the same time, when I said Ubuntu is most used on the  desktop
[22:00] <wiijii> Anyway, cheers
[22:00] <ubuntu_> you mean that this lines speed are of your so busy downloading computers?
[22:00] <manila1> I just installedd 9.04 in my Presario CQ40 notebook. There's no sound. Help/
[22:00] <chelz> rapha: grub can boot into many FSes, the only issue it has is when you have an older grub in /boot on a foreign FS
[22:00] <ubuntu_> thats amazing.....
[22:00] <weather15> I'm been helping some people with ubuntu
[22:00] <Guest30132> wow, registries have let me in
[22:00] <ramblex> how/where do i get kernel modules for ubuntu 9.04?
[22:00] <mrwes> ActionJackson!
[22:00] <mrwes> heh
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> yo
[22:00] <ikonia> ramblex: they are already in the kernel
[22:00] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: hi
[22:00] <mrwes> \o/
[22:00] <ais523> ramblex: you can mostly just download them with the package manager if you don't have them already
[22:00] <Nalf> Hey, ActionParsnip, long time no see.
[22:00] <chelz> jadams_: any DKMS messages in dmesg?
[22:01] <weather15> I am good at using it but I have never really used for a high reliablity position
[22:01] <ais523> ramblex: are you looking for a module in particular?
[22:01] <jpnub> manila1: Tryed googling it?
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: i was in about 3 / 4 hours ago ;)
[22:01] <ramblex> ais523: loop
[22:01] <coincoin161> hi guys
[22:01] <jm2k> SVN installed on "/usr/local/bin" but when i run command "svn" via CLI says it cant find it in "/usr/bin" ? how to fix or add directory to PATH ?
[22:01] <invernizzi> manila1: execute in the command line "pulsaudio --kill; pulseaudio"
[22:01] <bsanders> If I already have 8.10 installed, is there a way to upgrade from the 9.04 CD?
[22:01] <Nalf> ActionParsnip: My computer broke like three weeks ago.:P I haven't been in since.
[22:01] <pepperjack> bsanders: yes
[22:01] <sapage> is there a command to upgrade to 9.04 via command line?
[22:01] <jadams_> chelz, dmesg|grep DKMS says no
[22:01] <ikonia> jm2k: PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin; export PATH
[22:01] <chelz> weather15: do all the testing you feel is necessary. i'm sure if you use any of the top linux distros you'll be very satisfied
[22:01] <ubuntu_> juasjuas
[22:01] <dtchen> invernizzi: no, killall pulseaudio;start-pulseaudio-x11
[22:01] <minerale> where can I get the torrent for 9.04 netbook
[22:01] <ikonia> !upgrade > sapage
[22:01] <mrwes> bsanders, yes, but from the alternate install CD
[22:01] <EdgEy> what does "{a}" mean in apt?
[22:01] <coincoin161> can someone tell me if in the ubuntu server edition there is the module hp_plus.ko ?
[22:01] <Nalf> http://ubuntu.com
[22:01] <bsanders> pepperjack: do I just boot from it or...?
[22:01] <ikonia> coincoin161: what device is it for
[22:01] <TheFunkbomb> I still can't get the brasero update in update manager to highlight.  I don't know why
[22:02] <dtchen> invernizzi: there are instances where pulseaudio -k is insufficient due to failure to reap its previous pid
[22:02] <jpnub> bsanders: clean installs are best, plus you can user ext4
[22:02] <_matreya6> sebsebseb, just browsing the features of ext4 right now, it looks very attractive, but I'll wait until it has matured more.
[22:02] <ubuntu_> in my world, 90% of you would be fired in 1 month
[22:02] <ipodman715> distribution upgrade woo
[22:02] <coincoin161> an eisa network card
[22:02] <ikonia> ubuntu_: please keep it to support discussion
[22:02] <Nalf> What is better about ext4?
[22:02] <sebsebseb> _matreya6: if you want, but loads of people have got on well with Ext4
[22:02] <manila1> invernizzi: i tried that
[22:02] <invernizzi> dtchen: thanks, didn't know that
[22:02] <jm2k> ikonia: you're a Life Saver, thx a bunch!
[22:02] <ais523> ramblex: I don't know about that one either, unfortunately
[22:02] <ipodman715> ext5, obv
[22:02] <jpnub> ubuntu_: but but, i have a famliy to feed!!!
[22:02] <ikonia> jm2k: no problem
[22:02] <bsanders> jpnub ahh, yeah, I am interested in the upgrade to ext4
[22:02] <coincoin161> ikonia: an eisa network card
[22:02] <ais523> Nalf: it's more efficient when you use very large files, and stores times with more accuracy
[22:03] <invernizzi> manila1: what output did you get?
[22:03] <jpnub> bsanders: then you have to do a clean install :(
[22:03] <tim_sharitt> bsanders: If you want to upgrade using a cd, you will need the alternete CD. You cannot upgrade using the live cd
[22:03] <ramblex> ais523: k, weird cos it was in the 8.10 kernel
[22:03] <ipodman715> yeah :(
[22:03] <ikonia> coincoin161: if it's a HP one, I suspect it will be in the HP priloant or core pack
[22:03] <pepperjack> bsanders: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lst.  now this is kinda complicated. not really but a little. youll need to add the cd as a repo and comment out the other repos then apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade.  youll want to google maybe for a stepbystep
[22:03] <Shortguy109> Does anyone know why my microphone isn't working? I've been trying to talk on skype still won't work
[22:03] <chelz> jadams_: this might help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Troubleshooting
[22:03] <pepperjack> bsanders: you dont boot into the livecd
[22:03] <amirman> where can i find the text files that store my networking configurations?
[22:03] <sebsebseb> Shortguy109: you will have to set up your sound in  the  skype config
[22:03] <pepperjack> amirman: /etc/network
[22:04] <Shortguy109> sebsebseb: i've already tried that
[22:04] <_matreya6> *, ok, here it is... the restart button to complete my upgrade...fingers crossed. >...Click...<
[22:04] <hadiz> g
[22:04] <benh611> so after I get gparted then what do I need to do
[22:04] <Nalf> If I upgrade to 8.10 can I upgrade  to 9.04 without doing a clean install?
[22:04] <invernizzi>  Shortguy109: try to execute "padsp skype"
[22:04] <amirman> pepperjack: oh of course, thanks
[22:04] <coincoin161> ikona: can you try modprobe hp_plus ?
[22:04] <ais523> ramblex: are you referring to the loop-aes module?
[22:04] <sebsebseb> Nalf: yes, but  you won't get full Ext4
[22:04] <sebsebseb> Nalf: infact you wont' get Ext4 at all
[22:04] <jm2k> bsanders: you can upgrade via the ISO (alternative), just download it and follow ubuntu help/upgrade instructions. Took me 2 hours to upgrade my Thinkpad this morning.
[22:04] <pepperjack> amirman: np.  specifically the interfaces file
[22:04] <ikonia> coincoin161: not got a 9.04 box to hand
[22:04] <chelz> jadams_: dmesg | grep -i nv     should mention  NVRM
[22:04] <sebsebseb> Nalf: something can be done to Ext3 for partial suppourt though
[22:04] <Guest30132> anyone know logrithims?
[22:04] <crazydip> how do i find out all the /etc/ files that i have manually modified?
[22:04] <ikonia> coincoin161: it will only probe if the hardware is present
[22:04] <Nalf> sebsebseb: That's ok for now because I am too lazy to go buy blank cds.:P
[22:04] <ipodman715> vm :)
[22:04] <manila1> invernizzi: this is what i did http://is.gd/ua5t
[22:04] <invernizzi> Shortguy109: if you own a dell, there is currently an issue with microphones.
[22:04] <ikonia> crazydip: you can do a find and search for modified date
[22:05] <Shortguy109> I do own a dell, but it worked on the older version that i used
[22:05] <thorin> .net
[22:05] <chelz> crazydip: what are you trying to do?
[22:05] <coincoin161> ikonia: yes but if you don't have the file hp_plus.ko it will tell you
[22:05] <sebsebseb> Nalf: also probably best to wait untill weekend or something  or maybe next week even, when the download servers are more quite
[22:05] <Joeseph> I download the i368 build of the iso if I run a 32-bit..... correct?
[22:05] <chelz> crazydip: as in why do you want to find those
[22:05] <ikonia> coincoin161: ahh yes, thats true
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> coincoin161: i dont have the hp_plus module
[22:05] <sebsebseb> Nalf: or your upgrade will be slow
[22:05] <bluenzo> how do i burn a VIDEO_TS folder to a DVD in ubuntu?
[22:05] <ikonia> coincoin161: I suspect it's in the proliant or core pack from hP
[22:05] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: tried padsp and it doesn't work
[22:05] <invernizzi> manila1: yes, but if you give us the output of that on pastebin.com we might be able to help you
[22:05] <nightrid3r> Joeseph: yes
[22:05] <ramblex> ais523: don't think so, unless it's the one that lets me mount a .iso file
[22:05] <steveccc> where is the best place to manage partitions on ubuntu - i want to format a disk and create a ext4 partition
[22:05] <ipodman715> yes
[22:05] <Nalf> sebsebseb: It's ok.. semester is almost over, have a lot of homework to do anyways.
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> bluenzo: i know k3b can do it
[22:05] <coincoin161> thanks, i only find this module on the debian kernels
[22:05] <jpnub> bluenzo: pretty sure you can just right click it, write to disk?
[22:05] <coincoin161> for now
[22:05] <_matreya6> Hmm, just a progress bar while starting up? Well, I'll figure it out how to restore my system messages...
[22:06] <chelz> Nalf: you can torrent the alternate discs and use those to upgrade from. if you're not in a hurry it is best to wait until the servers aren't so loaded down though
[22:06] <PassePartouT> mrwes i got it to work, i think it was the restarting but if it wasn't, the restarting fixed it :) now to wait to download 9.x and reinstall, hahah, cheers mate, thanks again
[22:06] <ais523> ramblex: the loopback device is there, I think it's part of the main kernel rather than a separate kernel module
[22:06] <bluenzo> jpnub, ive never written anything on ubuntu, just curious
[22:06] <manila1> invernizzi: here's the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/156763/
[22:06] <_stochastic_> when are Karmic Koala repositories going to open up
[22:06] <jpnub> bluenzo: yea, I'm not completely sure but if not that then google would give you an answer
[22:06] <ikonia> _stochastic_: when development starts
[22:06] <crazydip> ikonia, chelz: i know that over the past months i have modified a few files in /etc/, but i want to change them back to their defaults before i dist-upgrade
[22:07] <PassePartouT> can somebody recommend me a good (or the best :P) irc client for linux?
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> !irc
[22:07] <_stochastic_> ikonia, nice circular logic
[22:07] <PassePartouT> tyvm
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> !best | PassePartouT
[22:07] <lucas> Ola
[22:07] <mrwes> PassePartouT, very good my friend -- try Xchat for IRC
[22:07] <ikonia> crazydip: you can't change them back if you don't have backups
[22:07] <chelz> bluenzo: bluenzo might look into k3b and/or brasero
[22:07] <Guest66691> ls
[22:07] <TrogLedyte> lo
[22:07] <ramblex> ais523, lol -.- thanks. I must of put in the wrong mount type or something
[22:07] <PassePartouT> rofl, i know there's no best but i like to hear ppls biases :)
[22:07] <invernizzi> Shortguy109: is your mic working in the gnome recorder?
[22:07] <bluenzo> chelz,  ty
[22:07] <nnutter> The torrents linked on (http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt) seem to incorrectly linked. They are pointing to ISO files on the cloudfront.com.
[22:07] <crazydip> ikonia, of course you can, you re-install a package and tell it to clobber config files
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> PassePartouT: try a few, see which you prefer
[22:08] <A|i> I get 'NTFS signature is missing.' when mounting my internal drives, is should be fixed by mounting and unmounting the drive with windows, is it possible to fix it in ubuntu without using windows?
[22:08] <ikonia> crazydip: just update - they don't need to go back to defaults
[22:08] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: im using kubuntu 9.04
[22:08] <crazydip> ikonia, i have done it before, i just forgot how since its been a long time
[22:08] <manila1> invernizzi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156763/
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs-3g | A|i
[22:08] <sebsebseb> Shortguy109: ok good news.  KDE3 is an option in 9.04 :)
[22:08] <Lunar_Lamp> How do I alter the location of the new ubuntu notifications? I have two screens, and they're appearing the top right of my left (secondary) screen rather than the top right of my right (primary) screen.
[22:08] <fizk> questions about jaunty here or the other room?
[22:08] <askand> Is there some way I can choose to boot into windows on next reboot?
[22:08] <PassePartouT> ActionParsnip yeah i think i will, i knew about xchat already since it was around the last time i had linux on, just wasn't sure what others people were using, thanks though
[22:08] <sebsebseb> fizk: here
[22:08] <chelz> crazydip: if i was trying to find files like that i would use the command "find".
[22:08] <robertk> is this where one asks about 9.04 upgrading from 8.10?
[22:08] <sebsebseb> fizk: jaunty is released now
[22:08] <ipodman715> sure
[22:09] <fizk> sweet
[22:09] <jpnub> Lunar_lamp: Exact same problem!!!
[22:09] <Alinon> well i see flash is back to being fugged again ahah
[22:09] <sebsebseb> fizk: released today
[22:09] <sebsebseb> fizk: join #ubuntu-release-party for a virtual party :D
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> askand: sure, as long as there is an option in grub you can select it
[22:09] <chelz> askand: there is a menu each time you boot that should allow you to pick which OS you want to load. you can set grub to have your default automatically set as your last chosen option
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> askand: if not, add it
[22:09] <fizk> lol
[22:09] <crazydip> chelz, find will only give me modified date, but i dont know when i modified them... i need a dpkg/apt command (i know it exists, but i dont remember it)
[22:09] <Lunar_Lamp> jpnub: any progress on it so far?
[22:09] <nnutter> The torrents linked on (http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt) seem to incorrectly linked. They are pointing to ISO files on the cloudfront.com. Whereas the ones on (http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/) work correctly.
[22:09] <Shortguy109> uhhhh any ideas how to get my mic working tho?
[22:09] <Slart> nnutter: I found that out too
[22:10] <TheFunkbomb> Okay, I fixed the Brasero issue.  I went into synaptic package manager and I right clicked brasero and marked it for update
[22:10] <invernizzi> manila1:you need to add yourself to some groups: execute sudo adduser your_username pulse_access;sudo adduser your_username pulse_rt;sudo adduser your_username pulse
[22:10] <chelz> crazydip: you do "find all files modified within the last 3 months" with find
[22:10] <TheFunkbomb> easy cheesy in yo' feezy
[22:10] <jpnub> Lunar_lamp: none at all, I've hunted through the GUI but couldn't find anything. tried searching.
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> Shortguy109: check the levels are high and the mic isnt muted
[22:10] <Slart> nnutter: but after refreshing the ubuntu page it worked..
[22:10] <nnutter> Slart: not here
[22:10] <TheFunkbomb> I think I fixed it at least
[22:10] <Slart> nnutter: perhaps it's just one of the many webservers that are broken
[22:10] <Shortguy109> ActionParsnip: yes, i've already tried that :9
[22:10] <Shortguy109> :(*
[22:10] <invernizzi> Shortguy109: is your mic working somewhere else (not in skype)?
[22:10] <crazydip> crazydip, yes, but i know that i did a few modifications RIGHT after i upgraded, so within hours of dist-upgrading 6 months ago.... :D
[22:10] <techqbert> Anybody think it makes sense to "bittorentize" apt-get?
[22:10] <nnutter> Slart: OK, well then...
[22:10] <Dragnslcr> Anyone know if the md5 sums for the DVD images are posted anywhere?
[22:10] <askand> ActionParsnip: chelz: But I wonder if it is possible to choose from inside ubuntu before restarting that on next reboot I want to start Windows for example
[22:10] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: i don't think so, not quite sure
[22:10] <ikonia> techqbert: no, and it's offtopic for here
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> techqbert: its in the pipelines afaik
[22:11] <crazydip> chelz, thanks for the find suggestions, i guess i'll have to read up on debian's docs
[22:11] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: is there anything i cud download so i cud check?
[22:11] <jpnub> Dragnslcr: should be on the ubuntu download page
[22:11] <invernizzi> Shortguy109: execute "pavucontrol", input devices
[22:11] <Slart> techqbert: perhaps... write a suggestion to launchpad and see if anyone else agrees
[22:11] <nnutter> d2j60aaoklmkol.cloudfront.net is broken
[22:11] <chelz> askand: you can by editing your grub menu.lst to set windows as the default. there isn't a gui to do it though
[22:11] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: pavucontrol isn't installed
[22:11] <chelz> crazydip: i hope you remember/find that other way. it sounds easier. heh gl
[22:11] <millertimek1a2m3> hey how do i upgrade with the cd
[22:11] <millertimek1a2m3> to 9.04
[22:11] <ikonia> !upgrade > millertimek1a2m3
[22:11] <invernizzi> Shortguy109: I think kde has a recording utility, but I don't know the name. Anyone?
[22:11] <miramardesign> hey all i have intrepid ibex, should I install jaunty or do i need heron first??
[22:11] <ikonia> millertimek1a2m3: remember you must use the alternative CD
[22:11] <robertk> is this where one asks about 9.04 upgrading from 8.10?
[22:11] <ipodman715> must be alternate cd
[22:12] <jpnub> !upgrade > robertk
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> chelz: why would you need a gui, the file is childishly readable :)
[22:12] <invernizzi> Shortguy109:sudo aptitude install pavucontrol
[22:12] <tara> m21_51@hotmail.com
[22:12] <Kemayo> I downloaded the alternate CD, and am running cdromupgrade from it. I told it not to fetch packages from the network. Why is it still doing that?
[22:12] <laucian> hi there..
[22:12] <nnutter> Alright, better report. The server d2j60aaoklmkol.cloudfront.net is incorrectly linking ISO images instead of the (correct) torrent files.
[22:12] <manila1> invernizzi: i did as you told and got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/156770/
[22:12] <skvMaJ-mobile> my new installation is hanging when installing restricted drivers at 0%.....are the mirrors that swamped?
[22:12] <PassePartouT> quick question, for an x86 is the ubuntu-0.04-desktop0i386.iso the right cd?
[22:12] <Slart> nnutter: d2j60aaoklmkol.cloudfront.net gives me the iso instead of torrent file
[22:12] <laucian> i have installed kde over standart ubuntu 8.10 (with gnome), then i removed kde
[22:12] <Dragnslcr> jpnub- nice, thanks. They must have gone up since I checked a few hours ago
[22:12] <steveccc> where can i find the disk manager on ubuntu
[22:12] <sebsebseb> tara:    that email address can get spammed now since you gave out in a publically logged channel and everything.   ,but hotmail gets loads of spam anyway
[22:12] <Slart> nnutter: ah.. the same one..
[22:12] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: kk, gonna take a minute to install
[22:13] <chelz> ActionParsnip: the terminal is a roadblock for a lot of people.. ;/
[22:13] <jpnub> Lunar_Lamp: let me know if you make any progress
[22:13] <nnutter> Slart: so it's confirmed ;-)
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> Kemayo: easiest way is to disconnect your network when you install
[22:13] <laucian> now i cant really start the x11
[22:13] <invernizzi> manila1: ok, now you have to logout, then login again.
[22:13] <Kemayo> ActionParsnip: Worth a shot.
[22:13] <laucian> it does not load gdm as default
[22:13] <fizk> question:  I ran "update-manager -d",  it was downloading, then quit.  I re-ran it, and before downloading again, it will always quit/crash.
[22:13] <jikuty> just a quick question, when updating from 8.10 to 9.04 using the update path (not a fresh reinstall), will my manually added packages be preserved? (e.g. i installed Virtualbox through apt-get)
[22:13] <jpnub> Dragnslcr: no problem
[22:13] <manpoole> any idea on a time frame of dri2 support?
[22:13] <laucian> is there a way to get rid of kde and make gnome default again?
[22:13] <manpoole> fir ati
[22:13] <crazydip> chelz, yeah.... it helps to do routine clean ups once in awhile when you dist-upgrade for years and years... cheers!
[22:13] <ipodman715> ifdown
[22:13] <zsquareplusc> is there a channel about unbuntu on ARM (NSLU2)?
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> chelz: it can be edited in the gui too: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:13] <sebsebseb> !puregnome |  laucian
[22:13] <mphill> laucian: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:13] <ais523> laucian: to make Gnome default, go to options on the login screen, choose change session, then choose gnome
[22:14] <ais523> laucian: you'll have to install Gnome first as mphill suggests, if you don't have it already
[22:14] <Alinon> i guess i should have went with the 3rd party flash component for firefox >.<
[22:14] <chelz> ActionParsnip: but not in the sense of selecting an item from a gui menu, within preferences or something. people that are used to guis for everything have a hard time adjusting
[22:14] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: okay pavucontrol's installed now what?
[22:14] <chelz> Alinon: the nonfree flash in the repos works fine here
[22:14] <jpnub> Alinon: Flash is such a mess
[22:14] <TheFunkbomb> yes, problem solved
[22:14] <Alinon> chelz: yeh, i didn't heeh, i elected for the ubuntu extra's version
[22:14] <invernizzi> Shortguy109: execute it, and go to "Input devices"
[22:15] <mrwes> PassePartouT, I told you it was all about the proper power up sequence :)
[22:15] <Alinon> chelz: it's fugged in the 9.04 upgrade
[22:15] <mrwes> Alinon, works on this end
[22:15] <fizk> Is anyone  having  problems with upgrade-manager?  I ran "update-manager -d",  it was downloading, then quit.  I re-ran it, and before downloading again, it will always quit/crash.
[22:15] <nnutter> Slart: Alright, well I'm reporting it on LP.
[22:15] <Alinon> mrwes: i tried hulu.com - says i need to upgrade my flash version
[22:15] <ais523> fizk: yes, it's because the repos are overloaded today, because of the new version
[22:15] <ipodman715> hmm why did it tell me to run /sbin/lilo after upgrade?  I'm just running it in vm
[22:15] <PassePartouT> mrwes haha yeah, brings me back to the days of win98 when your ethernet falls out and you need to restart just to get internet again :P picky procedures but at least they always work :P
[22:16] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: okay i've went there
[22:16] <Slart> nnutter: give me the link and I'll confirm it
[22:16] <belim> does anyone know why an HFS+ external drive would be read only?
[22:16] <laucian> well it says, no KDE installed, and gnome is already installed..
[22:16] <weather15> My wifi drops out and I have to restart to reconnect
[22:16] <weather15> \
[22:16] <coreyo> For the first time, Jaunty is seeing my HDMI audio device out of the box, however, I don't seem to be receiving any sound through it.  Is there a command that will specifically force some sort of speaker test to be output through the HDMI cable?
[22:16] <laucian> i think i need set gdm on start up
[22:16] <belim> I have tried with automount and mounting manually but it keeps sayings its read only
[22:16] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: i put the volume all the way up
[22:16] <invernizzi>  Shortguy109: you should see an image of a microphone, and a bar that moves if you speak
[22:16] <manila1> inve
[22:16] <invernizzi> manila1:yes?
[22:17] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: i don't see that :o
[22:17] <laucian> the problem the system wants to start kdm..but it is not existing..
[22:17] <manila1> invernizzi: i've reset. still no sound :(
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> chelz: if they can learn they can gain more power in their system
[22:17] <mrwes> Alion: hulu works here
[22:17] <Nalf> coreyo: there are some commands to open up the alsa control panel, but I forgot them. search on the ubuntu site. :)
[22:17] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: i see an image of a microphone tho
[22:17] <fizk> ais523: oh....that's not a nice way to handle overload
[22:17] <_matreya6> Hmm, all my fonts look ugly after the upgrade. I'm using a active matrix TFT screen
[22:17] <mrwes> Alion: full screen too
[22:17] <fizk> ais523: it should say "Dude....it's release day. Give us a break."
[22:17] <Alinon> mrwes: huh wierd, wonder why it's asking me to upgrade my flash O.o
[22:17] <Slart> nnutter: you can get the dvd release from here if you want it http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/release/dvd/
[22:17] <invernizzi> manila1: Well, at least it's one problem less. retry  killall pulseaudio;start-pulseaudio-x11
[22:18] <frostburn> _matreya6, system > admin > appearance
[22:18] <suki> hi, how do i disable the loud system/error beep?
[22:18] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: what do i do tho, i see a microphone icon
[22:18] <coreyo> Anyone know how to force a sound test through my hdmi cable to diagnose whether or not it's working?
[22:18] <suki> and also on bootup
[22:18] <chelz> ActionParsnip: oh definitely, i'm all for learning. but ubuntu is targeting people who don't necessarily want to learn, making things as easy as possible
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> _matreya6: http://osnovice.blogspot.com/2007/07/fonts-are-ugly-in-ubuntu-gnome.html
[22:18] <nnutter> Slart: thanks yeah, I'm already about 50% through :-)
[22:18] <mrwes> Alinon, flash 10 right?
[22:18] <invernizzi> Shortguy109:one sec
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> suki: head to sound preferences -> notifications and disable whatever offends you
[22:18] <ais523> belim: apparently it can happen if there was an unclean shutdown on the device that last accessed the drive, that leaves journal data there which Ubuntu doesn't know how to process; if you access it on some other OS, then switch back to Ubuntu, it'll probably work
[22:18] <Alinon> mrwes: says i need 9 or higher
[22:18] <rshade98> hey guys what is the cmd to do unattended upgrade?
[22:19] <belim> ais523, nice one thanks :)
[22:19] <joshjtl> whats the least intrusive way to install IE6 on ubuntu?
[22:19] <ikonia> rshade98: it's not a command,
[22:19] <Slart> !upgrade | rshade98
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> chelz: agreed but a lot of the time, a simple config change can be significantly easier than wrestling a gui
[22:19] <nnutter> Alright, reported as #365705, incorrectly linked torrents on the cloud.
[22:19] <iso50> how can I update from ext3 to ext4 on a second drive?
[22:19] <invernizzi> Shortguy109: Just to see if it's only skype, run krecord
[22:19] <mrwes> Alinon, dunno...I"m running flash 10 here
[22:19] <manila1> invernizzi: check this pls http://paste.ubuntu.com/156773/
[22:19] <Slart> joshjtl: ouch.. perhaps using wine? or a vm?
[22:19] <ikonia> iso50: that would be a manual process
[22:19] <suki> ActionParsnip: i disabled everything, yet i get this loud beep
[22:19] <chelz> ActionParsnip: all depends on how much of a mental block the user has against terminals
[22:19] <suki> on the internal speakers i guess
[22:19] <nnutter> Slart: would you mind confirming #365705 for me?
[22:19] <iso50> ikonia: Thats fine, how is it done?
[22:19] <hanasaki> whats a good linux/windows opensource free thing like webex for conference, remote control and voip?
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> chelz: sadly true :(
[22:19] <_matreya6> ActionParsnip, thanks for the link, but everything was looking fine in 8.10, without Microsoft Fonts...
[22:20] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: i typed krecord into konsole but it said command not found
[22:20] <Slart> nnutter: sure
[22:20] <haggis-AAO> intel driver is giving ubuntu bad press , http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzIyMA
[22:20] <chelz> ActionParsnip: we're making good progress though :)
[22:20] <afaynou> salaut
[22:20] <Alinon> guess i'm gonna try to restart again, maybe i'll nudge something
[22:20] <nordc> hanasaki: logmein is very good
[22:20] <rshade98> thanks Slart
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> suki: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/11556
[22:20] <ikonia> iso50: you'd have to copy all your data across to the seond disk, do a clean install/update on your ext3 partition, then copy the config files back over
[22:20] <rshade98> and ubottu
[22:20] <hanasaki> thanks nordc
[22:20] <hanasaki> nordc:  anything else??
[22:21] <manila1> invernizzi:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/156773/
[22:21] <hanasaki> dimdim ?  kolabora?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> hanasaki: try ekiga
[22:21] <invernizzi> Shortguy109: install it
[22:21] <hanasaki> ActionParsnip:  can that do a conference?  and remote screen control .. also to be used for presenations and helpdesk
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> chelz: i always advise cli for samba config
[22:21] <Nalf> logmein is opensourcE?
[22:21] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: okay thx
[22:21] <ipodman715> don't think so
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> hanasaki: possibly, check it out
[22:22] <nordc> Nalf: it's not, but it's free and it's good
[22:22] <belim> ais523, does it have to be another OS? Only I dont really have another OS I can use..... Only 2 Ubuntu systems. :)
[22:22] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: couldn't find anything matching krecord
[22:22] <hanasaki> ActionParsnip:  I have.. dont think it does
[22:22] <ais523> belim: ah, in that case that might not be the problem; Ubuntu can't leave journal data either
[22:22] <hanasaki> logmein is .com .. not free?
[22:22] <ais523> belim: so unless you've accessed it from elsewhere, it's probably a different problem entirely
[22:22] <nordc> hanasaki: sorry, i didn't get that part of open source :-))
[22:23] <bigos> anyone has any expectation when will this repo-slowdown end?
[22:23] <invernizzi> manila1:sudo polkit-auth --user bimbim --grant org.pulseaudio.acquire-real-time
[22:23] <ikonia> bigos: when people stop downloading....unknonw
[22:23] <ikonia> unknown
[22:23] <hanasaki> ah nordc its ok... ya I need FREE opensource also prefered... surprised google didnt get into it yet....
[22:23] <mrwes> ikonia, heh
[22:23] <invernizzi>  manila1:sudo polkit-auth --user bimbim --grant org.pulseaudio.acquire-high-priority
[22:23] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: anything else to get? cuz krecord doesn't show
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> hanasaki: hmm
[22:23] <belim> ais523, I was using it from my old OSX box but I have formatted it since then and its now running Ubuntu
[22:23] <reinis> god, Ubuntu sucks
[22:23]  * mrwes prefers torrentin' the alternate install io
[22:24] <reinis> I install it and the package management doesn't work
[22:24] <bigos> ikonia:  sure, i know that ;) but that's what probably happened 6 months ago, so maybe people remember how long this usually takes ;)
[22:24] <wiredfool> is there a 9.04 netbook remix torrent?
[22:24] <victorh> hi! i have installed the vncserver. But i've find out that there is a server which cames with ubuntu, and works better for my friend. but i can't use it 'cause the vncserver have messed everything. how can i get the previous configuration of the server which came with ubuntu?
[22:24] <belim> ais523, alright nm. I will figure out another way round. Going to have to backup ~30gb over my lan!.... :/
[22:24] <reinis> I get errors about having to manually run commands
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> reinis: whats up, try asking for help instead of trolling
[22:24] <khunt> so whats the crack with the ultra poor graphics on my netbook with jaunty?
[22:24] <ikonia> bigos: different each time, first day normally the worst, stick with it
[22:24] <BRP226> irc.what.cd
[22:24] <tlyng> haggis-aa0: I understand nobody got any right to complain on any open-source application, atleast when most of the development is community driven. Allthough I have to say that when upgrading from 8.10 to 9.04 nearly renders my computer useless (atleast extremely slow Xorg) I can't say the critics is unfounded. I do understand developers wanting to upgrade drivers, xorg etc; but at what cost? :/ using the compiz application switcher (sexy alt
[22:24] <bigos> ikonia: all right, thanks
[22:24] <nordc> hanasaki: google has it but it's still in beta phase; they bought a company few years ago which is supposed to do just that
[22:25] <_matreya6> ActionParsnip, thanks again, do you also have a tip for decent Japanese fonts?
[22:25] <manila1> invernizzi: done as instructed. what should i do now? reset?
[22:25] <hanasaki> nordc:  what company? remeber?
[22:25] <telaviv> I just downloaded ubuntu 9.04 via torrent. unfortunately i recieve this error "cannot open [insert directory here]/cache no such file or directory" The folder is indeed not there but I know that somewhere On my computer is 700 Mb. How can i find and delete this?
[22:25] <invernizzi> manila1: try to restart pulseaudio again (same command as before), and give me the output
[22:26] <htpc> probably a useless question, anybody know how to get HDMI to send audio as well as video to my TV?
[22:26] <mrwes> telaviv, maybe try a 'force check' on the file from your torrent client
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> _matreya6: not sure, try asking in #ubuntu-jp
[22:26] <manila1> invernizzi: sorry, what the command again?
[22:26] <racecar56> ubuntu 9.04 is epic
[22:26] <nordc> hanasaki: i might have it bookmarked on del.ciou.us
[22:26] <invernizzi> manila1: killall pulseaudio;start-pulseaudio-x11
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> reinis: can you please give details
[22:26] <Nalf> !kde | nalf
[22:26] <reinis> "This is a major failure of your software management system. Please check for broken packages with synaptic, check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information with: 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudu apt-get install -f'."
[22:26] <hanasaki> nordc:  what is that? can you give me a url?
[22:26] <_matreya6> ActionParsnip, if they understand any English (Eigo) there ;-P  I'll ask there Thanks
[22:26] <reinis> on a completely, 100% fresh install
[22:27] <DisabledDuck> how do i open .tar programs?
[22:27] <manila1> invernizzi:  here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/156777/
[22:27] <Nalf> Eigo!
[22:27] <victorh> hi! i have installed the vncserver. But i've find out that there is a server which cames with ubuntu, and works better for my friend. but i can't use it 'cause the vncserver have messed everything. how can i get the previous configuration of the server which came with ubuntu?
[22:27] <nordc> hanasaki: i'll check it out, one sec
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> DisabledDuck: tar xvf <tar file>
[22:27] <hanasaki> thanks
[22:27] <_matreya6> DisabledDuck, just doubleclik on them, that should open FileRoller
[22:27] <Nalf> Nihongo ga wakarimasu?
[22:27] <ais523> DisabledDuck: using archive manager, or by double-clicking
[22:27] <Nalf> Oh boy.. off support topic.
[22:27] <hanasaki> nordc:  BRB... please send in a private msg?
[22:27] <victorh> i would like to restore the configuration of server which came with ubuntu...
[22:27] <invernizzi> manila1: that is good. Is the sound working?
[22:28] <_matreya6> Nalf, hai, chotto wakarimasu
[22:28] <zsquareplusc> victorh: they should be independent. the built in can be enabled under the settings (desktop sharing)
[22:28] <wwarrior> who chooses the name of the ubuntu versions ?
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> wwarrior: canonical
[22:28] <manila1> invernizzi: not yet :(
[22:28] <pace_t_zulu> DisabledDuck: $ tar -xvf filename.tar
[22:28] <belim> are people updating to Jaunty straight away?
[22:28] <ex_machina> hrmm
[22:28]  * Flare183 is here to help with the Upgrade flood hehe
[22:28] <un2him> i recommend category5.tv, and look for the "perfectbuntu" script to add things like codecs, fonts, awn, skype, and others
[22:28] <ais523> Flare183: so am I
[22:28] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: is there anything else i cud use to record instead of krecord? cuz it won't show
[22:28] <Flare183> ais523: Good!
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> DisabledDuck: if its a program to install, have you checked the repos?
[22:29] <benh611> I installed ubuntu 8.10 and I can no longer get to windows. I use gparted and I am not seeing a windows partition anywhere
[22:29] <DiDiVp> hi
[22:29] <KyleK> if you dont see it in gparted it sounds like you clicked the kill everything option
[22:29] <manpoole> so when will all the slow ubuntu servers be back to normal? lol
[22:29] <DiDiVp> someone install ubuntu 9.04?
[22:29] <Flare183> benh611: You might have deleted windows if you didn't partition it correctly
[22:29] <invernizzi> Shortguy109:arecord -d 10 -D hw:0,0 -f cd .wav
[22:29] <victorh> zsquareplusc: it was i though. but i was testing it, and the pc that i've installed vncserver via apt-get, the Remote Desktop does not work with i don't run the command "vncserver" to create it...
[22:29] <KyleK> DiDiVp: im sure one or two people have
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> DiDiVp: did about 3 weeks ago
[22:30] <pochi> my upgrade to 9.04 hasn't progressed for 1 hour now ... what to do, what to do?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> pochi: what point are you up to?
[22:30] <Flare183> manpoole: hehe they are ALL slow just be patient and try to use torrents
[22:30] <victorh> it was i though. but i was testing it, and the pc that i've installed vncserver via apt-get, the Remote Desktop does not work if i don't run the command "vncserver" to create it...
[22:30] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: do i type that in konsole or what? :o
[22:30] <DiDiVp> KyleK, I installed and saw one bug in Add/Remove app
[22:30] <pochi> ActionParsnip: it 8 minutes remaning of installation
[22:30] <manpoole> oh no problem downloading jaunty via torrents getting a 2 megs a sec
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> pochi: installation or download ?
[22:30] <ais523> pochi: is it the installation or the download that's slow?
[22:30] <DiDiVp> ActionParsnip, that's nice
[22:30] <manpoole> but running synaptic is where it becomes slow
[22:31] <pochi> ActionParsnip: installation, it's doing some noip2 stuff
[22:31] <fizk> How can I change the server that update-manager uses?
[22:31] <ais523> pochi: how long as it hung for?
[22:31] <DiDiVp> ais523, It's better download using torrent
[22:31] <ikonia> fizk: modify your /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:31] <reinis> and why the f**k aren't there .torrents in the official download page
[22:31] <ais523> fizk: System | Administration | Software Sources
[22:31] <pochi> ais523: more than 1 hour
[22:31] <Alek_> Anyone know of a way to limit the amount of items shown in the dropdown list in epiphany when typing into the addressbar??
[22:31] <manpoole> fizk let me know too i was wondering
[22:31] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: do i type that in konsole or what? :o
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> pochi: hmm, i'd check if theres a problem with that service and the upgrade process
[22:31] <Flare183> manpoole: That's because your are downloading from the massivly busy Ubuntu Servers
[22:31] <reinis> and how am I supposed to know if the CD image downloaded successfuly?
[22:31] <zsquareplusc> victorh: vncserver runs a separate virtual desktop usually accessible as <yourhostname>:1 etc. while the built in desktop sharing in ubuntu exports the current screen under :0
[22:31] <invernizzi> shortguy109: yes
[22:31] <WS|Thermal> I'm kinda waiting for 9.10 D:
[22:31] <reinis> you don't even list the fucking full size of the CD
[22:31] <DiDiVp> WS|Thermal, lol
[22:31] <WS|Thermal> !language reinis
[22:31] <Flare183> !language | reinis
[22:31] <ais523> pochi: it's possible to force-shutdown and finish off the upgrade by hand, but that's rather complicated and dangerous. I have had to do it before, though (it was my fault both times)
[22:31] <fizk> manpoole: modify your /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:31] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: it said Recording WAVE '.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo and then nothin happened
[22:32] <WS|Thermal> DiDiUp: I know I'm a sheep. Lol.
[22:32] <manpoole> do you know of a list of servers that you recommend i try?
[22:32] <pochi> ais523: I'm not so couragous ... :/
[22:32] <ikonia> manpoole: they will all be busy - just ride it out
[22:32] <Flare183> manpoole: I would go with the torrents right now
[22:32] <manpoole> eastern united staes
[22:32] <DiDiVp> WS|Thermal, I'm kidding
[22:32] <ais523> pochi: have you expanded the terminal tab on the display?
[22:32] <acr0nym> so much hassle about downloading an ubuntu iso lol
[22:32] <manpoole> i went with the torrents
[22:32] <invernizzi> shortguy109: it's okay, it's recording your audio. speak, then press CTRL+C; then execute aplay hw*
[22:32] <acr0nym> I downloaded mine in less than a minute :P
[22:32] <pochi> ais523: yes, I had to answer a question
[22:32] <reinis> where are the effing torrents?
[22:32] <victorh> zsquareplusc: right. but when i try to connect to the server, it gives that the connection was closed.
[22:32] <ais523> pochi: is it showing anything weird right now?
[22:32] <manpoole> but using synaptic to install random packages takes ages lol
[22:33] <wiredfool> is there a torrent of the netbook remix? I'm at a 2 day download right now
[22:33] <invernizzi> manila1: try killall pulseaudio;pulseaudio -v
[22:33] <ais523> reinis: see topic
[22:33] <WS|Thermal> DiDiUp: I'm not, lol.
[22:33] <Flare183> wiredfool: Yes there is, I think
[22:33] <victorh> zsquareplusc: and, in other computers i does not happen
[22:33] <dabblego> hi is it possible to have some software, that is so outdated that it only causes problems, from the repositories?
[22:33] <wiredfool> Flare183: it
[22:33] <pochi> ais523: nothing weird ...
[22:33] <ikonia> reinis: can you please get a grip on your language please.
[22:33] <WS|Thermal> DiDiUp: 9.04 looks really good, but I'm waiting for 9.10 because of Btr-fs and ext4.
[22:33] <zsquareplusc> victorh: note that some server refuse connections from localhost. you try to connect from other servers?
[22:33] <Kemayo> ActionParsnip: Disconnecting the network didn't help for forcing the installer to not fetch files from the network. It just hung on trying to download 'em.
[22:33] <wiredfool> Flare183: ti's not in the normal places
[22:33] <fizk> manpoole: actually, use "Software Sources" program. It has a "Choose best server"  feature
[22:33] <Flare183> wiredfool: That's weird
[22:33] <WS|Thermal> ooh. new logon looks sweet.
[22:33] <ais523> pochi: you could try clicking on the terminal and pressing control-C, that often shakes it up a bit, it can leave you with a slightly broken system but synaptic can fix that later
[22:33] <wiredfool> Flare183: yep
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> Kemayo: i think theres a command you can fire to make it stop, let me check
[22:34] <Snappl> ight guys. at the risk of sounding cripplingly stupid- should i upgrade to jaunty?
[22:34] <aprilhare> join #ubuntu-release-party
[22:34] <ais523> Snappl: yes if you're on intrepid atm, maybe if you stuck with hardy
[22:34] <Flare183> Snappl: Yes, but not right now
[22:34] <pochi> ais523: cool, that fixed it :)
[22:34] <victorh> zsquareplusc: yes, i tried. in other servers the connection worked... =/
[22:34] <Snappl> ight
[22:34] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: dean@jim:~$ arecord -d 10 -D hw:0,0 -f cd .wav Recording WAVE '.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo^CAborted by signal Interrupt...dean@jim:~$ aplay hw*
[22:34] <Shortguy109> hw*: No such file or directory
[22:34]  * pochi dances. ty ais523 
[22:34] <Shortguy109> didn't work :o
[22:34] <ais523> pochi: you'll want to open up synaptic from the menus and choose fix broken packages from the menus afterwards, just in case
[22:34] <WS|Thermal> Does 9.04 have Firefox 3 or Firefox 3.1?
[22:35] <invernizzi> manila1: I noticed you misspelled the command. sudo adduser bimbim pulse-access;sudo adduser bimbim pulse-rt
[22:35] <WS|Thermal> or... 3.5, as its now called. :P
[22:35] <pochi> ais523: aye!
[22:35] <ais523> WS|Thermal: 3.0.8
[22:35] <victorh> zsquareplusc: i was wondering if i should remove everything of vncserver, and try to restart the config of remote desktop
[22:35] <invernizzi> shortguy109: it should have created a .wav file. try aplay *.wav
[22:35] <ipodman715> of course new update for it 3.0.9 :)
[22:35] <nordc> hanasaki: the company google bought is Marratech
[22:35] <WS|Thermal> ais523: Any reason why it didn't drop with 3.1 beta 3?
[22:35] <lakedenman> my /etc/environment file is only working when I source it. when I am root, I have access to all paths, but as a regular user I don't see my new path added I added to the file
[22:35] <WS|Thermal> ais523: Although the lack of plugins at the moment is a problem.
[22:35] <weather15> What is the md5 checksum of ubuntu 9.04 Desktop 32bit?
[22:35] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: no such file or directory
[22:36] <RizR> hi
[22:36] <Royall> Woah, Failed to Upgrade
[22:36] <Royall> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python-pylibacl/python-pylibacl_0.4.0-2ubuntu2_i386.deb Unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com http: [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
[22:36] <Royall> And many other lines like that
[22:36] <RizR> flash-nonfree 8.04, 8.10, and now 9.04 haven't been able to put youtube vids fullscreen. current version for flash is 10
[22:36] <ikonia> Royall: yes, repos are busy
[22:36] <LjL> Royall: it's release day. the mirrors are slow, and sometimes down.
[22:36] <RizR> any ideas?
[22:36] <victorh> zsquareplusc: oh, i runned the apt-get autoremove and some vnc was removed. maybe it can work now...
[22:37] <sebsebseb> weather15: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/MD5SUMS
[22:37] <RizR> oh yea, browser is firefox
[22:37] <mrwes> Royall, repos are screaming today
[22:37] <victorh> zsquareplusc: i'll try
[22:37] <fizk> LOL, I went from 30kb/s to 800Kb/s !!! by changing the mirror server
[22:37] <ais523> Royall: us.archive.ubuntu.com is the main server for the US, it will be /very/ overloaded at the moment because today's release day, most likely you just couldn't get a connection to it because the internet was overloaded around there
[22:37] <magnetron> Royall→ the US mirrors are among the lowest quality ones
[22:37] <invernizzi> shortguy: ok, then do like this: mkdir /tmp/test; cd /tmp/test; arecord ......    and then aplay *
[22:37] <the_dark_warrio> why does ubuntu menu gets screwed whenever the resolution of the screen changes?
[22:37] <Nalf> That's because the internet in the US sucks.
[22:37] <weather15> Thanks sebsebseb
[22:37] <sebsebseb> weather15: no problem
[22:37] <nightrid3r> weather15: 66fa77789c7b8ff63130e5d5a272d67b  ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[22:37] <ikonia> Nalf: no it's not - the servers are just busy
[22:37] <ipodman715> dl it from s korea or something :P
[22:37] <mrwes> Nalf, that was intelligently said
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> Kemayo: i think there is a process that runs, if you check   ps -ef | less    you may find something suspect
[22:38] <invernizzi> Nalf: italy is doing good now
[22:38] <magnetron> ikonia→ the other mirrors seems to be able to handly it
[22:38] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: lots of ? marks are coming up
[22:38] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: do i press ctrl c/
[22:38] <Shortguy109> ?*
[22:38] <invernizzi> Shortguy109
[22:38] <invernizzi> yes
[22:38] <Nalf> ikonia: Take us internet speed and compare it with the speed in other countries.. france, england, JAPAN, korea.. we lose.
[22:39] <Nalf> ikonia: Our residential internet sucks. Fact:P
[22:39] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: says no such file or directory
[22:39] <victorh> zsquareplusc:no, it does not work.
[22:39] <invernizzi> shortguy109: cd /tmp/test; arecord -d 10 -D hw:0,0 -f cd .wav ; aplay *
[22:39] <Yossi_> you can take a slightly messed up download and use bittorrent to fix/ finish it
[22:39] <racecar56> the ubuntu archive is -STILL- dead?
[22:39] <invernizzi> shortguy109: the ? are probably caused by a misunderstanding
[22:39] <triciens> Hello!
[22:39] <racecar56> what's wrong?
[22:39] <racecar56> triciens, hi
[22:39] <joaopinto> after a crash my boot is stopped on a "ACPI: Checking for initramfs for custom DSDT", any ideas ?
[22:39] <LjL> nothing is wrong. it's *release day*. everyone is hammering on the mirrors.
[22:40] <lakedenman> in essence, it seems the /etc/environment file is not being sourced when I log in as a regular user
[22:40] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: i put in cd /tmp/test; arecord -d 10 -D hw:0,0 -f cd .wav ; aplay * and it says it's recording i think
[22:40] <triciens> hi racecar56. my first time using pidgin
[22:40] <istvan> hey, for some reason changing permissions seems to be having issues in nautilus, so from the terminal how do I change the owner of a folder and all of it's contents to istvan?
[22:40] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: ah it said no such file or directory
[22:40] <racecar56> triciens, i dont like pidgin with irc, i like xchat
[22:40] <sebsebseb> triciens: Konversation :)
[22:40] <Nosferax> pidgin irc is really not so great
[22:40] <Nosferax> xchat ftw
[22:40] <racecar56> triciens, yeah konversation is pretty good to
[22:41] <racecar56> xchat ftw is right
[22:41] <triciens> racecar56, okay. Well I'm just glad to be able to get in here
[22:41] <racecar56> triciens, k
[22:41] <strangeseraph> Coming to you from 9.04!
[22:41] <sebsebseb> racecar56: no  Konversation ftw is right :)
[22:41] <triciens> i have just installed 9.04
[22:41] <mnk> i can't play any wma files
[22:41] <deany> konversation is kde.. unless it does something xchat dont, i`ll stay
[22:41] <strangeseraph> Works smooth as silk guys. :) Great fast install!
[22:41]  * Nosferax flames
[22:41] <racecar56> sebsebseb, i do gnome, thats why
[22:41] <sebsebseb> mnk: you need to install the codecs
[22:41] <Royall> Is there an easier way to just upgrade? (like, a torrent for upgrading)
[22:41] <nordc> Nosferax: which client do you think is great/
[22:41] <racecar56> sebsebseb, even though konversation is pretty good to
[22:41] <sebsebseb> mnk: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras takes care of most of the propritary stuff
[22:41] <victorh> zsquareplusc: do you know where the config files of remote desktop are hidden?
[22:41] <racecar56> i like xchat the best
[22:41] <mnk> sebastien, how? i tried to search but it won't work
[22:41] <strangeseraph> I like xchat best too :3
[22:41] <triciens> Just installed 9.04. I have a problem when I try to logout. Does anyone feel like helping me?
[22:41] <invernizzi> shortguy109: my fault: this works: cd /tmp/test; arecord -d  -D hw:0,0 -f cd .wav ; aplay *
[22:42] <blue-frog_> nordc: torrent the dvd and upgrade from it
[22:42] <invernizzi> manila109: are you still there?
[22:42] <Nosferax> nordc, xchat does the trick for me
[22:42] <racecar56> ive been using xchat scince i first used irc (jan 2009, never was interested until then)
[22:42] <sebsebseb> triciens: you mean you can't ctrl alt backspace?
[22:42] <mnk> sebsebseb, i already have that package newest version instaslled
[22:42] <Nosferax> simple, configurable
[22:42] <zsquareplusc> victorh: they are in the gnome registry, run gconf-editor
[22:42] <picca-> xchat for me 2
[22:42]  * deany is glad he used a daily iso 2 days before to install to save all this slow nonsense
[22:42] <racecar56> triciens, sudo dontzap -d
[22:42] <gartral2> ok, will the Big Jump break any costom programs, or not play well with programs not installed from official repos??
[22:42] <nordc> Nosferax: i find chatzilla quite good for my needs
[22:42] <blue-frog_> sebsebseb: ctrl alt back is diasbled in jaunty
[22:42] <mrwes> gnome registry?
[22:42] <mrwes> heh
[22:42] <Nosferax> yeah, that must be nice as well
[22:42]  * sebsebseb xchat is popular with newbies, but their are better clients, end of
[22:42] <racecar56> triciens, may have to install dontzap first
[22:42] <Nosferax> i like the idea of separating my stuff tho
[22:43]  * racecar56 likes xchat the most
[22:43] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: says it's recording
[22:43] <Nosferax> browser browses
[22:43] <picca-> sebastien, irssi is nice
[22:43] <sebsebseb> blue-frog_: I know, but that guy  maybe didn't know
[22:43]  * racecar56 typed /me
[22:43] <triciens> sebsebseb, I mean when I click Log Out I get a black screen with white text and a series of checks proceed, but then nothing happens
[22:43] <invernizzi> shortguy109: CTRL+C
[22:43] <sebsebseb> picca-: yep
[22:43] <racecar56> irssi is good when it comes to cmd
[22:43] <racecar56> xchat is good for gui
[22:43] <mnk> sebsebseb, i already have that package newest version instaslled
[22:43] <zsquareplusc> victorh: then head to /desktop/gnome/remote_access in gconf-editor
[22:43] <greencookie> irssi ftw :D
[22:43] <racecar56> ya
[22:43] <mnk> sebsebseb, it tries to search for the codecs but finds nothing
[22:43] <karim> hi
[22:43] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: it's playing it but i can't hear anything
[22:43] <sebsebseb> irc client talk | ot
[22:43] <picca-> i have both xchat aand irssi installed
[22:43] <Belding> Can I install Xubuntu 9.04 alongside Ubuntu 8.10 and have them share the same /home?
[22:43] <racecar56> same
[22:43] <sebsebseb> !ot  |  irc client talk
[22:44] <racecar56> Belding, yes
[22:44] <mnk> anyone else know
[22:44] <mnk> ?
[22:44] <invernizzi> Shortguy109: did the mic work in intrepid?
[22:44] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: what's intrepid :o
[22:44] <gartral2> ok, will the Big Jump break any costom programs, or not play well with programs not installed from official repos??
[22:44] <deany> the only thing stopped me usin chatzilla was, havin multiple channels open and it showing every post/whatever I had in every channel, whatever channel i was in,. when I pressed "up"
[22:44] <mnk> my totem tries to fine the codecs but it doesn't find anything for wma files
[22:44] <Belding> racecar56: cool, thanks. that's just done during that patitioning?
[22:44] <mnk> pls help! :)
[22:44] <zsquareplusc> Belding: you can even install both at the same time and select with desktop to use at login ;-)
[22:44] <invernizzi> shortguy: did the mic ever worked in linux?
[22:44] <Nosferax> invernizzi, works for me
[22:44] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: yes it did, since i got 9.04 it hasn't
[22:44] <deany> least xchat only shows what ive said in that channel
[22:44] <Royall> Can I upgrade Ubuntu from a ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso disc?
[22:44] <karim> is there a way through debconf dpk or apt, or whatever, since they know what files config files are installed since they can update them, to save the config files as a backup file. the files in /etc/ and /var I mean, and be able to call a particular applications settings and to restore them
[22:44] <ipodman715> no
[22:44] <sebsebseb> !ot |  deany
[22:44] <karim> ?
[22:45] <wwarrior> who chooses the name of the ubuntu code names ?
[22:45] <wwarrior> who chooses ubuntu code names ?
[22:45] <andrew[andrboot]> @ Royall yes
[22:45] <Belding> zsquareplusc: i'll try it, thanks
[22:45] <invernizzi> shortguy109: intrepid is the old ubuntu, like this is jaunty
[22:45] <mnk> sebseb? any thing?
[22:45] <rski> wwarrior: the developers
[22:45] <sebsebseb> wwarrior: Mark Shuttleworth I think, the founder of Ubuntu
[22:45] <gartral2> ok, will the Big Jump break any costom programs, or not play well with programs not installed from official repos??
[22:45] <mnk> sebsebseb, any thing?
[22:45] <LjL> !ot
[22:45] <strangeseraph> the only problem: I forgot I had custom fonts so now everything looks weird. But I'm gonna try the free fonts that comes with it and see if I can fix that
[22:45] <invernizzi> shortguy109: what is your computer brand?
[22:45] <Nosferax> ubuntu servers overloaded
[22:45] <Nosferax> :D
[22:45] <chelz> andrew[andrboot]: how?
[22:45] <triciens> sebsebseb, and anyone else who is interested: I made a thread on the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1134349 There's a picture and everything!
[22:45] <Nosferax> can't even install a 1mb package
[22:45] <Royall> So, it would be a better idea to torrent the .iso, burn it, and upgrade?
[22:45] <andrew[andrboot]> pop the cd in while ur in ubuntu
[22:45] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: inspiron 1525 dell
[22:46] <andrew[andrboot]> Royall clean installs are always safest
[22:46] <strangeseraph> oh there we go, I changed it to 'best shapes'
[22:46] <Royall> andrew[andrboot]: I'd rather keep my data though
[22:46] <ais523> gartral2: if you installed from any repo, even an unofficial one, it shouldn't work too badly; if you installed by hand in /usr/local, it should work but might not; if you installed by hand in /usr, it will almost certianly break
[22:46] <paddy_> hi
[22:46] <dotblank> Royall: Clean installs are the best and getting via torrent is the most lag free
[22:46] <invernizzi> shortguy109: I  supposed it was a dell. there is an open issue with dell mic.
[22:46] <chelz> Royall: i know for sure that mounting an alternate iso cab be used as a source of packages, i'm not sure about the desktop though
[22:46] <paddy_> hello
[22:46] <victorh> zsquareplusc: everything is ok.. =/
[22:46] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: but it's worked before :o not on 9.04 tho
[22:46] <greencookie> anyone else have wireless connectivity issues in Jauty?
[22:47] <mnk> anyone know how to install codecs in jaunty. everything was working in intrepid but after upgrade, it won't play wma files and it tries to search for codecs but finds now... please help
[22:47] <greencookie> jaunty*
[22:47] <triciens> Is this place always so crazy? Or is it just cause jaunty came out today?
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> greencookie: none at all
[22:47] <magcius> Royall, why not do update-manager -d?
[22:47] <Alinon> welp it's official flash it fugged for many users on this upgrade - upgrade with caution
[22:47] <chelz> triciens: jaunty
[22:47] <ais523> triciens: not quite this bad normally!
[22:47] <Royall> magcius: servers are clogged
[22:47] <triciens> ty
[22:47] <invernizzi> shortguy109: yes, it's pulse audio related. you can either uninstall pulseaudio, or
[22:47] <sebsebseb> triciens: no picture on the thread
[22:47] <victorh> zsquareplusc: i'll keep trying
[22:47] <RizR> got a lingering issue with firefox-flash-plugin on ubuntu. it doesn't play youtube on fullscreen. just opens the vid in slightly bigger size and makes rest of the screen black. anyone?
[22:47] <triciens> roger that seb, I will look into it
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> greencookie: what wifi chip are you using?
[22:47] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: earlier i tried gettin it working and i uninstalled pulseaudio and put in esound
[22:47] <zsquareplusc> victorh:  are you sude that it's not just the client that fails? have you tried the (thight)vncviewer command line tool?
[22:47] <magcius> Royall, try this
[22:47] <Alinon> i even tried purging flash and reinstalling - still nothing hehe
[22:47] <andrew[andrboot]> heh woops
[22:47] <mnk> any little help will be appreciated from anyone who knows
[22:47] <gartral2> ais523: everything except a custom dev environment is installed via packages...
[22:47] <khunt> Alinon I had to remove the open source flash and install adobe flash to fix that problem
[22:47] <magcius> Royall, System->Administration->Software Sources
[22:47] <dotblank> Alinon: Are running 64bit?
[22:47] <greencookie> ActionParsnip: Boardcom b43xx
[22:48] <andrew[andrboot]> wifi died. @ Royall personally i don't upgradei do clean installs. hwoever i will be runninga "upgrade" test tonight
[22:48] <victorh> zsquareplusc: hmm, no
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> Alinon: 64bit or 32bit ubuntu?
[22:48] <greencookie> ActionParsnip: nvm it just connected..darn thing is unreliable :D
[22:48] <chelz> mnk: might be because the servers are overloaded and you still have updates to install
[22:48] <victorh> zsquareplusc: how do i do it?
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom > greencookie
[22:48] <Alinon> khunt: i noticed icedtea was *kind of being used in firefox, how'd you remove it?
[22:48] <Royall> magcius: k
[22:48] <blue-frog_> Royall: torrent a dvd iso or alternate cd iso; mount it in /media/cdrom and follow the instructions
[22:48] <magcius> Royall, change Download from: to Other..., and hit Select Best Server
[22:48] <mnk> chelz, i have already updated everything
[22:48] <invernizzi> shortguy109: I had the same issue. there is a workaround here ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/275998?comments=all).  let me explain
[22:48] <magcius> Royall, this will ping all the mirrors and give you the one that's not under pressure.
[22:49] <mnk> chelz, do i need to activate some other software source?
[22:49] <Royall> magcius: doing it
[22:49] <jpnub> does anyone know anything about  NVIDIA-XCONFIG -A ?
[22:49] <chelz> mnk: you could check the log of the player you're using
[22:49] <triciens> sebsebseb, picture should work now!
[22:49] <khunt> sudo apt-get remove swfdec
[22:49] <dotblank> jpnub: What do you need to use it for?
[22:49] <ZakBain> Hey everyone. Could you please answer one simple question  How many hours did you sleep last night	I need it for my statistics homework
[22:49] <DeadPanda> Does anyone have WPA authentication working in Jaunty on an MSI Wind?
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> jpnub: you using jaunty?
[22:49] <LjL> !offtopic | ZakBain
[22:49] <dotblank> ZakBain: 12
[22:49] <macman> guys .. trying to get sounds working again but for some reason it isn't working
[22:49] <mnk> chelz, it is trying to find the codecs but says it cant find them after searching
[22:49] <nightrid3r> ZakBain: 5
[22:49] <macman> alsamixer has everything up
[22:49] <myk_robinson> got a VPN question.. While connected to another network using VPN, should I still be able to browse the internet?
[22:49] <LjL> !offtopic
[22:49] <blue-frog_> DeadPanda: do you know the chipset of your card
[22:50] <invernizzi> shortguy109: first, put this in ~/.asoundrc
[22:50] <andrew[andrboot]> ZakBain, 6
[22:50] <DeadPanda> blue-frog_, rt2860
[22:50] <magcius> !ot | LjL
[22:50] <jpnub> dotblank: when one of my graphics cards is plugged in it won't let me startx
[22:50] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: okay
[22:50] <chelz> mnk: are you using the medibuntu repos?
[22:50] <Yossi_> ZakBain: 5
[22:50] <Alinon> khunt: wierd said it couldn't find swfdec
[22:50] <invernizzi> shortguy109: this meaning http://pastebin.com/m3616bb2b
[22:50] <dotblank> myk_robinson: it depends if your default route is being sent through that connection
[22:50] <mnk> chelz, yes i believe so
[22:50] <jpnub> ActionParsnip: Yes
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> myk_robinson: if you tell the system to use your local internet, yes
[22:50] <DeadPanda> blue-frog_, it can list available networks okay, NetworkManager/WPA supplicant are being strange
[22:50] <sebsebseb> triciens: lame it wants me to sign up on the forum to see it.   heh  5 years and I am still not a memeber of that forum
[22:50] <dotblank> jpnub: is it an nvidia card?
[22:50] <james12345> how can I find out why my USB wireless device won't connect to my network in Linux?
[22:50] <chelz> mnk: did you update your source list of those? iirc they have repos per ubuntu version
[22:50] <blue-frog_> DeadPanda: ther's a bug with it. you surely tries to cnnect to tkip+paes
[22:50] <jpnub> dotblank: Yes both of them are
[22:50] <myk_robinson> ActionParsnip: how do I configure Network Manager to still allow me to use my local internet?
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> jpnub: i dont think nvidia-xconfig is needed in jaunty
[22:50] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: typing in ~/.asoundrc didn't work
[22:50] <DeadPanda> blue-frog_, surely == should?
[22:51] <dotblank> jpnub: you have 2? sli?
[22:51] <jpnub> dotblank: 6200 pci
[22:51] <rio> hi, i can't enable desktop effects with my intel card anymore, and the drivers dialogue doesnt show any additional drivers to activate
[22:51] <blue-frog_> DeadPanda: no surely
[22:51] <gouki> Anyone ever had a problem with auto-login enabled on GDM?
[22:51] <Arnos> Hey, I'm updating to 9.04 and my download has stopped, what should I do?  just restart it?
[22:51] <triciens> sebsebseb: lol...
[22:51] <DeadPanda> blue-frog_, let me just check
[22:51] <blue-frog_> DeadPanda: certainly
[22:51] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: bash: /home/dean/.asoundrc: No such file or directory
[22:51] <chelz> Arnos: use the torrents when at all possible
[22:51] <zonked> Arnos, It takes a while and just looks frozen.
[22:51] <magcius> Royall, are you in #xkcd-compsci?
[22:51] <LjL> Arnos: why aren't you using the torrents?
[22:51] <nightrid3r> Arnos: server are overloaded just wait for it to finish
[22:51] <Royall> magcius: am now
[22:51] <magcius> Royall, ... on Foonetic
[22:51] <dotblank> jpnub: ok... try running this "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.bak && sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[22:51] <sebsebseb> triciens: yeah  Ubuntu  worked nicely for me  most of the time,  and  if I needed help a few people on MSN, and well IRC.  so didn't have a reason to join the forum
[22:52] <invernizzi> shortguy109: no, type kate ~/.asoundrc  (if I remember well, kate is the "notepad" equivalent for kde)
[22:52] <myk_robinson> ActionParsnip: is that the Method setting under IPv4 settings? I have two options, Automatic(VPN) and Automatic (VPN) addresses only
[22:52] <Arnos> how do you use the torrents?
[22:52] <DeadPanda> blue-frog_, hmm, okay, can you point me to those settings in NetworkManager then?  I only see options for WPA/WPA2 Personal or Enterprise
[22:52] <invernizzi> shortguy109: it should be an empty file
[22:52] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: ah yes forgot lol
[22:52] <victorh> anyway, thank you zsquareplusc. i will try it
[22:52] <scyth> debian 4ever :)
[22:52] <dotblank> jpnub: do that with both plugged in
[22:52] <sebsebseb> Arnos: what do you want to download? 9.04?
[22:52] <mnk> chelz, what does iirc mean? :)
[22:52] <LjL> Arnos: type /topic, open the last site listed, and click on the desired download.
[22:52] <chelz> mnk: if i recall correctly
[22:52] <mnk> aah
[22:52] <Arnos> yeah, I want to update to 9.04
[22:52] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: yup it's empty
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> myk_robinson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient   read that about 75% down
[22:52] <victorh> zsquareplusc: what i need to do a connection between two computers?
[22:52] <dotblank> jpnub: Be advised that some bioses will pitch an irq conflict so you may want to investigate your bios
[22:53] <blue-frog_> DeadPanda: the only way for me is to use an older driver
[22:53] <victorh> zsquareplusc: maybe it's missing some packages, or something.
[22:53] <myk_robinson> @#!!, this forum got real busy all of a sudden... hard to keep up with everything
[22:53] <DeadPanda> blue-frog_, ah pants, any debs  up on ppa's?
[22:53] <DeadPanda> blue-frog_, or dkms packages anywhere?
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> myk_robinson: thats why we highlight your name
[22:53] <Arnos> LjL: I want to update from 8.10 though, will the torrent work for that?
[22:53] <myk_robinson> bless you!
[22:53] <jpnub> dotblank: Yes ok i'll try that thanks
[22:53] <chelz> myk_robinson: all i see is blond, brunette, redhead..
[22:53] <BRP226>  /server irc.what.cd (62.233.138.180:3128)
[22:53] <LjL> Arnos: no. i suggest just waiting tomorrow.
[22:53] <invernizzi> shortguy109: then kate /etc/pulse/default.pa
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> myk_robinson: you should return the favour
[22:54] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: ok
[22:54] <james12345> my wireless USB is listed when I type ifconfig, and I have opened "Network" and set the right essid and passkey, but I can't ping the router
[22:54] <myk_robinson> ActionParsnip: will do, sorry
[22:54] <debaser> hi
[22:54] <invernizzi> shortguy109: and substitute everything with this: http://pastebin.com/m2e76db82
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> invernizzi: that will need kdesudo or gksudo
[22:54] <Arnos> LjL: Thanks for the tip
[22:54] <victorh> zsquareplusc: i'm trying to connect to my own computer, but it does not work
[22:54] <paradizelost> howdy all
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> myk_robinson: np man ;)
[22:54] <zsquareplusc> victorh: the built in desktop sharing might refuse connections form the local computer yes (as it is sharing the screen you are looking at). the vncserver on the other hand should allow these
[22:54] <triciens> sebsebseb: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37692704@N07/3468747507/
[22:54] <dotblank> Arnos: I would update from the internet... but downloading the alternate install cd should let you update as well
[22:54] <invernizzi> ActionParsnip: yes, forgot to mention
[22:54] <leejongwook> Q : what is checksum for ubuntu-9.04.i386 ?
[22:55] <debaser> my pendrive scrambles the song's order, how do I fix that?
[22:55] <invernizzi> Shortguy109:actually is sudo  kate /etc/pulse/default.pa
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> leejongwook: do you want the checksum, or do you want to know what it is for?
[22:55] <mnk> chelz, yes everything is updated i just checked - and i have medibuntu
[22:55] <jpnub> leejongwook: Go to the download page on http://www.ubuntu.com
[22:55] <paradizelost> i'm trying too get my Startech CB2S650 2-port RS232 card working, dmesg sees when i plug it in, but i can't access the port with minicom, can anyone help?
[22:55] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: do i just leave the asoundrc thing empty?
[22:55] <nightrid3r> leejongwook:  66fa77789c7b8ff63130e5d5a272d67b  ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[22:55] <blue-frog_> DeadPanda: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/339891  find the 1.71 deb link in the post and install it. you need to delete the exisiting rt2860sta.ko before installing the deb
[22:55] <dotblank> leejongwook: calculating right now
[22:55] <invernizzi> no, you put this http://pastebin.com/m3616bb2b inside
[22:55] <leejongwook> 66fa77789c7b8ff63130e5d5a272d67b <= this is what i wanted, thanks :)
[22:55] <blue-frog_> DeadPanda: and reboot
[22:55] <mnk> chelz, it says it can't find the requested plugin: Windows Media Audio decoder
[22:55] <dotblank> leejongwook: dfc6520812b612bc15b62a4d4cab833a
[22:55] <gr3g97> hi
[22:55] <triciens> This is what happens when I try to logout in 9.04: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37692704@N07/3468747507/
[22:56] <chelz> mnk: you have the jaunty medibuntu repos?
[22:56] <LjL> leejongwook: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[22:56] <chelz> mnk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding%20the%20Repositories
[22:56] <leejongwook> LjL: Thanks :)
[22:56] <hatter243> Whilest scrolling rapidly up and down my monitors "blink" they both turn off and back on. I've nailed it down to only when I'm scrolling whether it be by mouse wheel or by grasping the bar and dragging it up and down. Thoughts? Ideas?
[22:56] <mnk> chelz, yes i did that but for some weird reason i can't see medibuntu in my sources file
[22:57] <Lyth1> Anyone know of a gnutella client?
[22:57] <fizk> hey guys, this partial upgrade quitting problem isn't related to server overload...
[22:57] <paddy_> hello i am stuck
[22:57] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: okay do i just leave the asoundrc empty?
[22:57] <ais523> paddy_: what are you stuck on?
[22:57] <fizk> it quits way to fast, right after clicking "upgrade"/ok
[22:57] <racecar56> Lyth1, icewire? i dont know if i even got the name right....
[22:57] <nightrid3r> lyte: amule
[22:57] <LjL> leejongwook: err, actually http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/MD5SUMS , since UbuntuHashes doesn't have the new ones yet...
[22:57] <chelz> mnk: could try to go in by hand and edit it
[22:57] <paddy_> a msn messenger ?
[22:57] <Lyth1> Frostwire?
[22:57] <racecar56> amsn
[22:57] <racecar56> Lyth1, ya
[22:57] <racecar56> Lyth1, thanks
[22:57] <paddy_> ok
[22:57] <Lyth1> yup
[22:57] <Arnos> btw, why isn't the upgrade it self a torrent it would sure ease server load
[22:57] <chelz> lyte: frostwire
[22:57] <invernizzi> shortguy109:shortguy109: to check everything is ok, do "cat ~/.asou
[22:57] <mnk> ok doing that now chelz
[22:57] <chelz> Arnos: there is an apt-p2p
[22:58] <myk_robinson> ActionParsnip: i must be missing something. I just tested again, when I connect to the VPN, i can ping everything internally at my church, but cannot get anything from the internet to respond. I have the link pulled up, but admittedly, I dont think I understand. Must be a setting in NM that I'm missing
[22:58] <invernizzi> shortguy109: no, you put this http://pastebin.com/m3616bb2b inside
[22:58] <lyte> chelz: do you mean someone else?
[22:58] <chelz> lyte: ah sry
[22:58] <Flare183> Arnos: Because most people use apt-get
[22:58] <racecar56> like me
[22:58] <invernizzi> shorguy109: don't consider " shortguy109:shortguy109: to check everything is ok, do "cat ~/.asou", I copied the wrong message
[22:59] <dwarrel> when i want to update (using cd, since download is so slow) but when i try to upgrade with cd it for some reason still tries to download from the internet, even if i selected no netwerk use. Also when i disconnect internet cable he just gets in a loop when fetshing files untill it crashes with a report it coudnt download some packages.
[22:59] <DeadPanda> blue-frog_, thanks, testing that package now
[22:59] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: okay :)
[22:59] <mnk> chelz, i have deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ jaunty free non-free now and it still wont search - i did update
[22:59] <paddy_> how do i make visural effects work?
[22:59] <paddy_> visual
[22:59] <invernizzi> shortguy109: when you have finished,  to check everything is ok, do "cat ~/.asoundrc|wc; cat /etc/pulse/default.pa|wc" and tell me the output
[22:59] <fizk> how do I clear the upgrade-manager cache?
[22:59] <zsquareplusc> myk_robinson: the routing table may point to the wrong gateway. that is if oyu need the VPN to reach the internet, the default route should be some machine within that VPN
[23:00] <mnk> chelz, what does hit mean when updating?
[23:00] <ais523> paddy_: System | Preferences | Appearances | Visual Effects
[23:00]  * mattwj2002 stretches out in the new Ubuntu 9.04 64-bit edition
[23:00] <mattwj2002> :D
[23:00] <leejongwook> nightrid3r: thanks for hash :) matched perfectly
[23:00] <cllaudyu> hoe can i save nvidia settings?
[23:00] <chelz> mnk: it means it downloaded okay
[23:00] <badfish69> cllaudyu: nvidia-settings
[23:00] <badfish69> you have to run it as root
[23:00] <badfish69> and save to x config
[23:00] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: it shows 6 numbers
[23:00] <cllaudyu> yea and is not saving after reboot...
[23:00] <kungpowza> sudo nvidia-settings
[23:00] <drinkycrow> no
[23:00] <drinkycrow> gksudo
[23:01] <chelz> mnk: it grabs the lists of repos and checks them for changes, hit means the list was grabbed successfully
[23:01] <triciens> is anyone here an old, wise Ubuntu expert?
[23:01] <invernizzi> shortguy109: write the first column here
[23:01] <dwarrel> when i want to update (using cd, since download is so slow) but when i try to upgrade with cd it for some reason still tries to download from the internet, even if i selected no netwerk use. Also when i disconnect internet cable he just gets in a loop when fetshing files untill it crashes with a report it coudnt download some packages.
[23:01] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[23:01] <ikonia> triciens: just ask your question
[23:01] <kungpowza> cant save to the xorg unless your sudo
[23:01] <dwarrel> when i want to update (using cd, since download is so slow) but when i try to upgrade with cd it for some reason still tries to download from the internet, even if i selected no netwerk use. Also when i disconnect internet cable he just gets in a loop when fetshing files untill it crashes with a report it coudnt download some packages.
[23:01] <triciens> what just happened?
[23:01] <myk_robinson> zsquareplusc: May have found something. There is an option under Routers for "Use this connection only for its internal resources"
[23:01] <nightrid3r> triciens: i'm old
[23:01] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: 20, 45, 359 across the way
[23:01] <Z3ro3X_> I'm running 9.04 and every time I empty the trash can my system does serious hard lockup.  What's up with that?
[23:01] <mnk> chelz, so it hit the medibuntu one
[23:01] <mnk> chelz, but still not finding the codec
[23:01] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: 128, 561 and 4490 on the second row
[23:02] <ubuntu> hello i have a question
[23:02] <mattwj2002> hi ubuntu
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> Z3ro3X_: check you have full access over your trash folder
[23:02] <mattwj2002> !ask | ubuntu
[23:02] <triciens> you're called ubuntu, ubuntu
[23:02] <triciens> ?
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> Z3ro3X_: i'd also fsck the partition that holds your trsh folder
[23:02] <myk_robinson> nope, that didnt work
[23:02] <mrwes> heh....b00m!
[23:02] <ubuntu> ok sorry
[23:02] <mnk> chelz, the weird thing is that mp3 files work fine
[23:02] <invernizzi> shortguy109: double check if you have copied all /etc/pulse/default.pa, it should be 136 lines, not 128
[23:02] <mattwj2002> no worries
[23:02] <zonked> Z3ro3X_, I had to unplufgexternal  monitor from laptop  - looked locked up, but eventually reset with ctrl alt del or bkspc
[23:02] <mnk> chelz, and also that w32codecs are the newest version
[23:02] <drinkycrow> ubuntu: we've no time for questions
[23:02] <drinkycrow> no time at all
[23:03] <looms> hello. i am trying to install hjsplitlx.tar.gz, but have only been using ubuntu for a couple of weeks. can anybody please tell me how to do it? thank you!
[23:03] <Z3ro3X_> ActionParsnip, I made / ext4 on a fresh install but converted /home  does that make any difference?
[23:03] <chelz> mnk: you might check if other media players on your computer can play wma
[23:03] <psychic> i need some help configuring my display to fill the screen
[23:03] <cllaudyu> i try to save nvidia settings but i get this Unable to remove old X config backup file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'.
[23:03] <zsquareplusc> myk_robinson: if you know the gatweay IP numbers etc, you can have a look at the output of the "route" command to check the current settings
[23:03] <drinkycrow> looms: you don't need it
[23:03] <ex_machina> This is probably a really easy fix, but I'm only getting sound through headphones on my laptop right now. I'm guessing it's a problem with Ubuntu auto-detecting headphones incorrectly. Does anybody know how to fix this?
[23:03] <ikonia> ubuntu: please feel free to ask your question
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> Z3ro3X_: ext4 is a bit flakey, and can lose data with hard resets
[23:03] <ais523> cllaudyu: are you accessing it as root?
[23:03] <mnk> chelz, mplayer can - hmm so how comes totem can't?
[23:03] <drinkycrow> looms: the 'cat' command in terminal will do the same thing as hjsplit
[23:03] <Flare183> I hate netsplits
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> Z3ro3X_: i'd run an fsck in a live cd session
[23:04] <cllaudyu> as root yes and still getting this error
[23:04] <chelz> mnk: i am not sure.
[23:04] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: ah yes it's 136 now
[23:04] <invernizzi> shortguy109: ok, now " sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart; killall pulsuadio,start-pulseaudio-x11"
[23:04] <psychic> how can i adjust my display size???
[23:04] <ubuntu>  i was able to install 9.04 ubuntu onto my jump drive "but it seems that it just image the cd instead of installing it  when i try to install it .It keeps showing my 500g but i wanna use my jump drive  to use Ubuntu?
[23:04] <looms> how do i use the 'cat' command? :(
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> cllaudyu: you need to run: gksudo nvidia-settings
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> looms: what do you want to do?
[23:04] <Z3ro3X_> ActionParsnip, Where is trash can files so I can check their permissions?
[23:04] <cllaudyu> ok thanks
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> !trash
[23:04] <chelz> ex_machina: right click on the speaker icon that controls your volume, click on "open volume" then go to the switches tab and see if anything is checked
[23:04] <mnk> anyone else know why mplayer can play wma files but totem can;t?
[23:04] <drinkycrow> yeah
[23:04] <mnk> anyone else know why mplayer can play wma files but totem can't?
[23:04] <mnk> sorry
[23:04] <drinkycrow> it was ActionParsnip that said my audigy was to blame
[23:04] <Z3ro3X_> LOL!
[23:05] <Z3ro3X_> Never mind.
[23:05] <looms> i want to join 4 avi files into 1
[23:05] <CydeWeys> looms: You need a video-editing program.
[23:05] <mrwes> looms, use avimerge
[23:05] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: pulsuadio,start-pulseaudio-x11: no process killed
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> cllaudyu: xorg.conf and all the files in there are not user writable so gksudo (gnome) or kdesudo (KDE) is needed to write the changes
[23:05] <chelz> looms: mencoder could do that also
[23:05] <mnk> thanks chelz btw for all ur help - much appreciated
[23:05] <mrwes> looms, run it from the terminal -- works very nicely
 as root yes and still getting this error
[23:05] <mnk> would anyone here know why mplayer can play wma files but totem can't?
[23:05] <invernizzi> shortguy109: I mistyped. killall pulseaudio; start-pulseaudio-x11
[23:05] <n3tcr4sh> good evening from spain
[23:05] <looms> the problem is that the extensions are .avi.001, .avi.002, .avi.003 and .avi.004 and avimerge only merges the first file
[23:05] <chelz> mnk: you might try restarting, it's a longshot but it might work
[23:06] <whattey> is it possible to upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 ? or 8.04 > 8.10 > 9.04 ?
[23:06] <chelz> mnk: i'm not really familiar with how totem works with codecs though
[23:06] <mrwes> looms, it's part of the package transcode
[23:06] <mnk> yeah np chelz  - thanks all the same
[23:06] <alex-weej> mnk: restart is no use
[23:06] <chelz> whattey: those are all possible, but a fresh install is recommended when possible
[23:06] <ais523> whattey: go via 8.10, the system will be doing the same thing in either case, but having a place to stop in between makes it less risky
[23:06] <Typh> Can anyone confirm getting new iPod Shuffles working with ubuntu?
[23:06] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: it came up with like 7 lines worth of stuff
[23:06] <drinkycrow> looms: use cat ~/filename.avi.* > ~/output.avi
[23:06] <chelz> alex-weej: what could the issue be?
[23:06] <invernizzi> 2shortguy109: retry "cd /tmp/test; arecord -d  -D hw:0,0 -f cd .wav ; aplay *"
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> looms: cp <file 1>+<file2>+<file3> outputfile.avi
[23:06] <mnk> alex-weej, what do u think would do the trick? mplayer plays wma files but not totem
[23:06] <dwarrel> when i want to update (using cd, since download is so slow) but when i try to upgrade with cd it for some reason still tries to download from the internet, even if i selected no netwerk use. Also when i disconnect internet cable he just gets in a loop when fetshing files untill it crashes with a report it coudnt download some packages.
[23:06] <alex-weej> mnz, chelz: you can blitz the gstreamer registry if you THINK something's gone wrong. usually hasn't
[23:06] <chelz> looms, drinkycrow: that needs a mencoder line after it to fix the index
[23:06] <aLeSD> hi all: I have a probelm with mi wifi : sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[23:06] <aLeSD> SIOCSIFFLAGS: No existe el fichero ó directorio
[23:06] <cdm101> looms: how were they split up?
[23:06] <CaneToad> Well....jaunty seems to be working well for me after online upgrade... some initial hurdles with the install because the upgrade-manager seems to download http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/ReleaseAnnouncement initially from archive.ubuntu.com irrespective of the contents of sources.list and archive.ubuntu.com is under heavy load, some requests are failing... is it intended to initially download from archive.ubu
[23:06] <aLeSD> help ?
[23:07] <alex-weej> mnk: mplayer and totem use totally different codecs
[23:07] <drinkycrow> damn
[23:07] <drinkycrow> that's true
[23:07] <invernizzi>  Shortguy109: you'll probably need to logout and login again
[23:07] <looms> ok, i'll try it, thanks
[23:07] <alex-weej> mnk: what happens when you open in totem?
[23:07] <paddy_> i love ubuntu more than vista :D
[23:07] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: okay, i'll be back :)
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> aLeSD: italliano?
[23:07] <drinkycrow> well
[23:07] <aLeSD> ActionParsnip: sip
[23:07] <drinkycrow> it's been fun
[23:07] <aLeSD> :)
[23:07] <paddy_> i love ubuntu more than vista :D
[23:07] <chelz> drinkycrow, looms: cat file1.avi file2.avi > newfile.avi     then      mencoder -forceidx -oac copy -ovc copy -o outfile.avi infile.avi
[23:07] <acode_work> will there be a ubuntu 9.04 lts server edition?
[23:07] <KaxNet> WUBI bug:  wubi 9.04 rev129 fails on error "writelines() argument must be a sequence of strings"    any solutions??
[23:07] <drinkycrow> i might give ubuntu another shot in a year or too
[23:07] <LeChacal> hello, i need to recompile gcl because it doesnt have an option enabled in the package i get out of the repository. My question is what is the best way of me doing this, should i download the tarball from the gcl site or from the ubutun package site and compile it, or is there an easier way?
[23:07] <mnk> alex-weej, mp3 works fine in totem but not wma, it tries to search for some codecs but then says it can't find any. i have medibuntu installed and updated and i have the w32codecs and nonfree codecs
[23:07] <aLeSD> ActionParsnip: could u help me ?
[23:07] <chelz> drinkycrow: check out fedora at least
[23:07] <alex-weej> cya then drinkycrow
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> KaxNet: did you md5 check everything you can?
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> aLeSD: whats wrong?
[23:08] <alex-weej> mnk: have you installed the "ubuntu-restricted-extras" package?
[23:08] <ais523> LeChacal: if you want to recompile something that's available as a package, get the source package via apt-get source (you don't need to be root to do that)
[23:08] <mnk> yes alex-weej
[23:08] <KaxNet> iam runnin it on vista 32bit
[23:08] <alex-weej> mnk: can you join #gstreamer please?
[23:08] <ais523> LeChacal: then do sudo apt-get build-deps for your package, and it'll install all the software needed to compile it
[23:08] <aLeSD> ActionParsnip: I'm tring to get up my wlan0 but it gives me a strange error: SIOCSIFFLAGS: No existe el fichero ó directorio
[23:08] <chelz> mnk: you might try marking that stuff for reinstall. only thing i can think of
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> KaxNet: Did you md5 check the wubi installer and the ISO you downloaded (If it uses the ISO)
[23:09] <mattwj2002> man you can tell there was a new ubuntu release today.....apt-get is taking forever to download packages
[23:09] <mattwj2002> :)
[23:09] <aLeSD> aLeSD: I tried within terminal cause network-manager doesn't work
[23:09] <KaxNet> whta md5 check ?? no i want the wubi to download the iso for me
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | KaxNet
 I tried within terminal cause network-manager doesn't work
[23:10] <LeChacal> ais523: ok but i need to enable something with a configure switch, do i still run configure, make, ect when doing this or what?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> KaxNet: the wubi installer also has an MD5 sum to check it is correct
[23:10] <sjzzalx> Hello! Upgrading from Ibex to Jaunty in Parallels with Parallels Tools installed seems to kill things -- their video driver doesn't work with things, but even after removing xorg.conf, mouse and keyboard no longer function
[23:10] <alex-weej> mnk: ?
[23:10] <S11001001> What would you guess more (apt-p2p) users have their sources.list pointed to: us.archive.ubuntu.com or archive.ubuntu.com?  The (8.10) install default seems to be us., but mine was set to archive. for some reason
[23:10] <adrian_2002ca> hi all, I changed my locked screen login a while ago and now I want to revert, but I forget how...I know I edited some files...any help?
[23:10] <ais523> LeChacal: yes; if it's a configure switch, you need to give arguments to configure, but the rest is the same
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> KaxNet: if what you have downloaded does not match the MD5 expected, it is a useless file
[23:10] <mattwj2002> !slow
[23:10] <S11001001> adrian_2002ca: open terminal, type passwd and Enter
[23:11] <sceo> can I upgrade an existing Intrepid install using the .ISO?
[23:11] <mnk> alex-weej, i tried that just now - no luck  - it still searches for the codec but says it can't find anything for Windows Media Audio decoder
[23:11] <Schuyler> sceo: only using the alternate ISO
[23:11] <ais523> sceo: use the alternate install CD to do that
[23:11] <Schuyler> not the desktop ISO
[23:11] <KaxNet> there are no errors on opening , so no checksum problem , the  error is when install
[23:11] <mnk> what do u reckon alex-weej ?
[23:11] <aLeSD> ActionParsnip: sorry .. I transale in english : error: SIOCSIFFLAGS: the files or the folder doesn't exist
[23:11] <Schuyler> I learned that one today :)
[23:11] <sceo> Schuyler / ais523 - just pop it in?
[23:11] <invernizzi> dean, how did it go?
[23:11] <KaxNet> this bug was reported from 4 users , 2houres ago
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> KaxNet: thats not a check, you need to check the installer is ok
[23:11] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: im back lol
[23:11] <ais523> sceo: yep, I think so
[23:12] <sceo> thanks ais523, schuyler
[23:12] <adrian_2002ca> S11001001: sorry, I meant graphical theme of the login on screen lock
[23:12] <alex-weej> mnk: run gst-launch-0.10 playbin2 uri="/path/to/the/file.wma"
[23:12] <Lyth1> What can I use to convert a 3gp to a an mpeg or an avi
[23:12] <Schuyler> sceo: that didn't work for me. I had to mount the CDROM (or loopback the ISO) and add the CDROM to my sources.list
[23:12] <alex-weej> mnk: and pastebin the output
[23:12] <sceo> schuyler; ok good to know... I am comfortable with that
[23:12] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: what do i do now ? :o
[23:13] <jikuty> hi, i was just wondering if updating from 8.10 to 9.04 will remove all of my manually installed packages (like virtualbox, opera, etc.)?
[23:13] <invernizzi> shortguy109: retry "cd /tmp/test; arecord -d  -D hw:0,0 -f cd .wav ; aplay *"
[23:13] <wolter> no
[23:13] <wolter> jikuty, no.
[23:13] <KaxNet> checksum of wibu is  : 5E6F6ACF2105C366DB2F9727E2A65D03
[23:13] <KaxNet> is there something to compare to?
[23:13] <wolter> jikuty, the only thing it will do is replace the system fies for new ones
[23:13] <invernizzi> jikuty: don't worry
[23:13] <DisabledDuck> other than fileroller, are there any programs out there to untar a file?
[23:13] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: is recording
[23:13] <jikuty> great :)
[23:13] <jikuty> sounds pretty seamless then. thanks.
[23:13] <ex_machina> chelz: Nothing is checked under switches. I can hear sound through headphones, and if I check any of the options there, I can't hear through headphones either
[23:13] <cdm101> DisabledDuck: tar
[23:13] <hbekel> DisabledDuck: tar
[23:13] <hbekel> :)
[23:14] <invernizzi> Shortguy109: ctrl+c to stop
[23:14] <wolter> jikuty, are you kidding me? its absolutely seamless :)
[23:14] <Veinor> DisabledDuck: tar xvvf from the command line, or xvvzf if it's compressed using zip as well
[23:14] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: okay done
[23:14] <invernizzi> shortguy109: it works?
[23:14] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: nothing happened
[23:14] <KaxNet> Checksum is ok for wubi
[23:15] <invernizzi> shortguy109: try "alsamixer -c0" and press TAB
[23:15] <invernizzi> shortguy109: tell me if you see +50db mic in the lowest row
[23:15] <weather15> are there any fast servers to download ubuntu 9.04 from?
[23:15] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: i see it
[23:15] <mylesmadness> can someone help me get internet on my inspiron b130?
[23:15] <Cougarten> Read Ahead Optimization changed in with the last update. I generated it with the "profile" command in grub. should I keep or should I renew the file?
[23:16] <KaxNet> wubi 9.04 rev129 fails on error "writelines() argument must be a sequence of strings"    , any solutions?
[23:16] <wolter> mylesmadness, what's the problem?
[23:16] <jpnub> weather15: get the torrent
[23:16] <SisMidnight_> may i ask a question?
[23:16] <cdm101> !ask | SisMidnight_
[23:16] <mylesmadness> wolter: It won't work. The wireles won't see my internet conection
[23:16] <sceo> man I can't even get the *torrent* off ubuntu.com!  :)
[23:16] <anxiolytic> How come when I drag a window, music pauses until I let the window go? This happens only with compiz OFF and with any music player. Happens on Hardy/Intrepid/Jaunty
[23:16] <alex-weej> KaxNet: bug. report it
[23:16] <weather15> Torremt seems slower because I don't have that many seeds
[23:17] <weather15> *torrent
[23:17]  * alex-weej has been seeding all day
[23:17] <Nalf> mylesmadness: What kind of wireless card/adapter do you have?
[23:17] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: what do i do with it?
[23:17] <mylesmadness> nalf: What would I do to find out?
[23:17] <KaxNet> already reported it
[23:17] <invernizzi> Shortguy109: CTRL+C to close.that is a virtual microphone, that should make your mic volume much higher. try with padsp skype, go to options-> sound and put into the
[23:17] <SisMidnight_> ok, thanks....never been a ubuntu user....very complicated for me.....lost everything on my desktop...unable to access web or anything that was on the system when i first received it....is there a system restore like in windows?
[23:17]  * zsquareplusc awards alex-weej a karma point
[23:17] <phix> has it been released yet?
[23:17] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: should i turn the volume up on it?
[23:18] <phix> yaya
[23:18] <weather15> Torrents can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[23:18] <theunixgeek> When I try to boot from my Ubuntu USB drive, I get "Boot Error." I copied the Ubuntu disk image to it with UNetbootin.
[23:18] <invernizzi> shortguy109: definitely, if it's down (press W to raise
[23:18] <LeChacal> ais523: i am still waiting for the source to download, but i have another question is it possible to find or see somewhere what options where enabled/disabled when a was package made?
[23:18] <psychic> can anyone tell me how to restore stuff that i erased from the computer
[23:18] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: okay :)
[23:18] <wolter> do you see the wifi light indicator on on your pc?
[23:18] <mylesmadness> Nalf: Dell Wireless 1370 WLAN MiniPCI Car
[23:19] <Cougarten> psychic: : emptyed the recicle bin?
[23:19] <mylesmadness> card*\
[23:19] <psychic> yea
[23:19] <ais523> LeChacal: if you look in debian/rules in the source package, that contains all the rules that Ubuntu used to build the package themselves, which will contain the options used, etc
[23:19] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: okay im in options
[23:19] <Cougarten> psychic: : first: dont move or install anything to have a chance
[23:19] <lucax> where do i go to configure new notification pop ups?
[23:19] <psychic> ok
[23:19] <LeChacal> ais523: thank you
[23:19] <invernizzi> shortguy109:  go to "sound devices", find the combo box called  "sound in" and put in  the value "ALSABOOST" (should be in the drop down menu)
[23:19] <semiotic> how do I make a bootable USB jaunty disk with mac os x?
[23:20] <Guevara> salve
[23:20] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: okay done
[23:20] <progre55> hi everybody! after the upgrade, ubuntu is not recognizing my video card and running in low-graphics mode. the video adapter is "VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter. Please somebody suggest smth
[23:20] <invernizzi> Guevara: salve, this is an english only forum. no italian :-D
[23:20] <Cougarten> psychic: I don't know any restore program, but you should be able to google one ("restore erased file ubuntu" or something))
[23:20] <Cocoa> Excuse me, is it ok if I burn the jaunty cd iso to dvdr and install it like that?
[23:20] <psychic> ok will do
[23:20] <invernizzi> shortguy109: test call
[23:20] <progre55> Cocoa, sure :)
[23:21] <psychic> i have one more question can someone help me fix my monitor size?
[23:21] <progre55> Cocoa, I've done that
[23:21] <SealedWithAKiss> I have registered myself a domain. I want to host the website from home. What is the next step for getting the site up and running? How will I configure the name servers to associate my domain with my IP address?
[23:21] <psychic> its not filling the whole screen
[23:21] <SisMidnight_> i have a dell mini 9 with ubuntu and can't go online or find anything on my desktop
[23:21] <ais523> LeChacal: unfortunately the rules file tends to be very over-complex, because they have to get it working on lots of systems...
[23:21] <soreau> progre55: Try the vesa video driver? if not anything else, just to start X
[23:21] <Cocoa> progre55: Thanks very much. I can't wait to install it!
[23:21] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: couldn't hear maself :(
[23:21] <lucax> some one where do i configure pop up notifications on jaunty??
[23:21] <soreau> psychic: Are you running desktop effects?
[23:21] <progre55> soreau, thanks, I'll try to find it now )
[23:21] <Cougarten> psychic: tried to change it yet?
[23:21] <psychic> i dont think so
[23:22] <alex-weej> mnk: you gonna do this? :)
[23:22] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: do i change all the things to aslaboost?
[23:22] <soreau> psychic: Can you show the output of 'ps ax|grep compiz'? (prefereably in a pastebin)
[23:22] <semiotic> does anyone know how to make a bootable jaunty USB drive with Mac OS X?
[23:22] <psychic> my screen size wont go above 800x600 i had this problem b4 i think i had to comment a line out somewhere to fix it i cant remember
[23:22] <soreau> preferably*
[23:22] <Cougarten> psychic: tried to change the resolutionyet?
[23:22] <psychic> how do i get that
[23:22] <Cougarten> k
[23:22] <invernizzi> shortgoy109:no. did you run sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart ?
[23:22] <soreau> psychic: Sounds like nvidia problem
[23:23] <psychic> yea i tried
[23:23] <psychic> i have cyberblade by trident
[23:23] <rascal999> i have 9.04 installed and would like to distribute it over lan, apt-mirror is needed apparently. Can I get away with not having to dl 9.04 as an iso? So the files on this machine are distributed?
[23:23] <weather15> Torrents Are Faster
[23:23] <Nalf> mylesmadness: lspci and tell me what you get for your card.
[23:23] <Cougarten> psychic: found http://www.ubuntugeek.com/recover-deleted-files-with-foremostscalpel-in-ubuntu.html or something simmilar for restores?
[23:23] <invernizzi> shortguy109: try pavucontrol-> Input devices and select all input in the combo box
[23:23] <psychic> thanks for looking that up for me that was unexpected
[23:24] <crivera> having trouble install ant on ubuntu.  i run "sudo apt-get install ant ant-optional" and it hangs at "0% [Waiting for headers]"
[23:24] <mylesmadness> Nalf: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4318] (rev 02)
[23:24] <FrozenFire> Is it just me, or does Jaunty have an abnormal level of anti-aliasing?
[23:24] <ais523> crivera: the repos are very slow at the moment, doing more or less anything repo-related will take you ages because everyone's trying to access them at once
[23:24] <Cougarten> psychic: I don't know if thats the easiest guide :)
[23:24] <invernizzi> crivera: servers are overloaded for the Jaunty release
[23:24] <firsm> Why does flashplugin-nonfree depend on and use nspluginwrapper on amd64?
[23:24] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: it shows a volume thing just in the input devices
[23:24] <crivera> balls
[23:24] <psychic> its ok i can figure it out but i have been all over the internet looking for a fix on the screen size
[23:24] <zsquareplusc> crivera: that might be releated to the other 10'000 people updating their ubuntu. it will probably work better in a few hours ;-)
[23:25] <psychic> cant get anywhere
[23:25] <ais523> FrozenFire: it's definitely different than Intrepid's, you can still customize it via System | Preferences | Appearance though, so you can reduce the amount if it's too much for you
[23:25] <invernizzi> shortguy109: no moving bar?
[23:25] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: ah yes there is
[23:25] <psychic> someone in this channel helped me get it b4
[23:25] <flakeparadigm> Hello
[23:25] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: it's all the way up
[23:25] <mnk> alex-weej, sorry got a phone call - i'm doing it now
[23:25] <wolter> Lol, 2 days and 16 hours remaining to complete the upgrade.
[23:25] <zutme> I just booted the livecd for ubuntu jaunty and it doesn't see my sd card reader. I was running an ubuntu variant based on intrepid and it was working there. Any ideas?
[23:25] <Nalf> Well..
[23:25] <FrozenFire> ais523: Thanks. _Much_ better
[23:25] <phix> ok so to upgrade from intrepid to jaunty I just mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old && sed 's/intrepid/jaunty/g' /etc/apt/sources.list.old > /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:25] <WDC> Hello. I am in a Live CD of Xubuntu 9.04, and in the installer, there is NO option for ext4.
[23:25] <ais523> zutme: were you using a restricted driver before? it's possible that the new version doesn't have it installed atm
[23:26] <mnk> alex-weej, http://pastebin.com/m1faaa8c8
[23:26] <dwarrel> how can i choose wich server ubuntu uses to upgrade?
[23:26] <zutme> ais523, no I wasn't
[23:26] <lucax> can we configure the notify pop up yet??
[23:26] <ais523> dwarrel: system | administration | software sources
[23:26] <wolter> If I am upgrading and I reconnect to the network will that abort?
[23:26] <Andrewjs> I don't want to be rude or anything but when I check for updates in update manager they fail. whats wrong?
[23:26] <flakeparadigm> How much has 64bit support improved in the last year or two? I'm thinking about switching over to 64bit for 9.04
[23:26] <Cougarten> Lucax: no
[23:26] <ais523> wolter: if you do that during the download, yes but you can restart where it left off; if you do that during the actual install, no
[23:26] <mnk> did u get that alex-weej ?
[23:26] <wolter> oh ok
[23:26] <invernizzi> shortguy109: your mic seem to be working, but the gain is too much. do kate ~/.asoundrc and lower the line with max_dB 30.0 to something like 10.0 . you'll have to run sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[23:27] <psychic> how do i do that thing to put in pastebin
[23:27] <Cougarten> copy it
[23:27] <WDC> Anyone know why I can't select 9.04 in the install?
[23:27] <dwarrel> ais523 if i edit it there to a faster closeby server and try to update it is still slow and when i stop it it says that he tried to download from main source again. (it seems that when you try to upgrade he edits the sourcelist automaticly)
[23:27] <psychic> how do i reach the stuff to copy
[23:27] <lucax> ok until now... jaunty is just half a release sorry to say
[23:27] <WDC> I'm sorry. Why I cannot select ext4 in 9.;04 installer
[23:27] <phix> is that about right?
[23:27] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: okay
[23:28] <Cougarten> psychic:  mark it and insert it with middle click
[23:28] <phix> dwarrel: what ?
[23:28] <manpoole> do you have to use gpg keys when installing software??
[23:28] <Andrewjs> does anyone get failed attempts to update from update manager?
[23:28] <alex-weej> mnk: go to the file in your file browser, hit Ctrl+C (copy), and then paste (Ctrl+Shift+V) that into the terminal instead of the "uri" you put in
[23:28] <ais523> dwarrel: well it has to edit the source list from Intrepid repos to Jaunty repos
[23:28] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: okay done
[23:28] <alex-weej> mnk: your URI was invalid
[23:28] <Cougarten> psychic: kind of a 2nd clipboard
[23:28] <lighttitan> ctr-alt-bkspc doesn't work in Jauntry?
[23:28] <ais523> manpoole: no, that's all done automatically behind the scenes
[23:28] <soreau> psychic: While in a busy channel like this, it is easier to get help if you address someone by using their nick in your post so that they are highlighted
[23:28] <Cougarten> lighttitan: disaböed by default
[23:28] <invernizzi> shortguy retry pavucontrol
[23:28] <ais523> lighttitan: not by default, install dontzap and run sudo dontzap -d to re-enable it
[23:28] <zsquareplusc> lighttitan: disbaled by default, yes
[23:28] <scunizi> If you install 64 bit are the packages that are installed with it like Oo also compiled for 64 bit?
[23:28] <dwarrel> ais523 how can i choose then what jaunty repos it uses? main ones of my country are to slow
[23:29] <lighttitan> Thanks guys
[23:29] <Cougarten> dwarder: check "softwaresources" in the options
[23:29] <ais523> dwarrel: while you aren't upgrading (cancel it if you are atm), go to System | Preferences | Software Sources
[23:29] <invernizzi> shortguy109: you'll have to wait a bit again
[23:29] <soreau> psychic: But to answer your question, you have to open a terminal (Applications>Accessories>Terminal and type in 'ps ax|grep compiz' with no quotes)
[23:29] <matt__> I am having an issue with irssi in gnome terminal, some times the screen won't refresh, like I type something in and nothing happens or people are chatting but it doesn't show and then it gets kind of scrambled but as soon as I just click on the screen it goes to normal
[23:29] <zsquareplusc> scunizi: usually, yes. some packages might be wrapped 32 bit programs but you won't nitice that usually
[23:29] <wolter> ais523, I reconnected but the upgrade dowloader won't pick up again
[23:29] <psychic> cougarten do i put this "ps ax|grep compiz" in terminal
[23:29] <Cougarten> dwarder: under systemsettings or something (have no english version)
[23:29] <soreau> matt__: Which graphics driver?
[23:30] <Cougarten> psychic: yes
[23:30] <ais523> wolter: you have to stop it (with cancel) and start again, it'll continue where it left off
[23:30] <psychic> ok thank u
[23:30] <matt__> nvidia 188
[23:30] <soreau> matt__: Do you have a compositing window manager running?
[23:30] <scunizi> zsquareplusc: thanks.. been running 32 bit for 3 years and thought I'd setup a test bed for 64 to play with
[23:30] <matt__> erm v 180 rather, what is a compositing window manager?
[23:30] <soreau> matt__: Like compiz for instance
[23:30] <joshjtl> can I install kubuntu-restricted-extras minus flash ? so some how like apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras -flashpackage ?
[23:30] <matt__> yes
[23:30] <matt__> I am running compiz
[23:30] <psychic> cougarten its short so ill just put it here    11967 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep compiz
[23:30] <matt__> I had emerald running but I disabled that to test it out
[23:31] <ais523> joshjtl: the easy way is to install it, then uninstall flash
[23:31] <SisMidnight_> I have a mini 9 from dell running ubuntu....something happened and now i can't access any of my desk top items...I am trying to download on my desk pc, netbook remix....is this the right choice or is there a restore in ubuntu like in windows?
[23:31] <soreau> matt__: Then you need the latest workarounds plugin from git. It just missed the compiz releases, but let me get you a link
[23:31] <matt__> cool
[23:31] <ais523> alternatively, apt-cache show kubuntu-restricted-extras will list all its dependencies, and you can just install all of them except flash by hand (you can do it in one command)
[23:31] <Cougarten> psychic: i did't ask for it and can't tell you more about it. forgot who asked
[23:31] <Andrewjs> i can't install any packages. my sources are gon
[23:31] <joshjtl> ais523: doesnt apt have some sort of minus packagename option?
[23:31] <MistrJ> hi i got a problem my root system is become read only! after i changed splash manager! who can help me ?
[23:31] <psychic> ok i'll find the persons name
[23:31] <invernizzi> joshjtl: no
[23:32] <stittel> Hi! Does Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.04 work out-of-the-box on an ASUS EEE-PC 901 (Go) with all hardware, function keys, power management, suspend etc? Netbook Remix 8.10 was a bit disappointing and I am now trying to decide if I should try Netbook Remix 9.04 or the latest version of Easy Peasy, which was released some days ago.
[23:32] <Cougarten> stittel: use eee-control with it
[23:32] <ais523> joshjtl: it has no option to install all but one dependency, unfortunately
[23:32] <Andrewjs> i can't install any packages. my sources are gone. any way to get them back?
[23:32] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: waited long enough orrrrr? lol :P
[23:32] <bluefox83> so, i'm having an issue getting 8.10 to upgrade to 9.04, whats the secret????
[23:33] <Cougarten> stittel: http://greg.geekmind.org/eee-control/deb/eee-control_0.9.0_all~jaunty.deb
[23:33] <dwarrel> ais523 It seems i forgot to edit the third party list. Thanks its working now!:D
[23:33] <scunizi> bluefox83: wait until the servers are hammered
[23:33] <psychic> soreau heres the output   11967 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep compiz
[23:33] <invernizzi> Shortguy109: I meant: open pavucontrol, go to input devices and wait a bit to see if the mic is working
[23:33] <ais523> Andrewjs: you can't generally get the souces back from the binaries, but the source packages may still be lying around somewhere; /var/cache/apt is a likely place
[23:33] <soreau> psychic: Then you're not using compiz.. are you using kde or gnome?
[23:33] <Cougarten> stittel: just the brightnes control did not advance
[23:33] <psychic> gnome
[23:33] <bluefox83> scunizi, actually, the problem is it's not saying there is an upgrade available...
[23:33] <bigos> repos working fast again, yaay
[23:33] <stittel> Cougarten: Does eee-control need a lot of manual configuration?
[23:34] <Cougarten> stittel: none :)
[23:34] <Andrewjs> thanks i'll try that ais523
[23:34] <Cougarten> stittel : but you can reconfigure the hotkeys very easily
[23:34] <jpnub> how do acers fair with ubuntu
[23:34] <stittel> Cougarten: Thanks.
[23:34] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: how do i check?
[23:34] <SisMidnight_> wwubuntu.com
[23:34] <stittel> Cougarten: Did you try (ubuntu-based) Easy Peasy and can make a comparison?
[23:34] <scunizi> bluefox83: did you get the FF security upgrade today?
[23:34] <ais523> Andrewjs: if they aren't there, also try locate followed by the name of the package, that's likely to turn up false positives, but they might be somewhere else
[23:34] <Cougarten> stittel: forgto: you have to make it launch at startup
[23:34] <bluefox83> scunizi, yep
[23:34] <SisMidnight_> ubuntu.com
[23:34] <invernizzi> shortguy109: do you see a moving bar if you speak?
[23:35] <Cougarten> stittel : *forgott
[23:35] <psychic> soreau yes i am using gnome
[23:35] <ais523> Andrewjs: and of course, you can always redownload them from wherever you got them in the first place
[23:35] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: no
[23:35] <oh_noes> is there any util in linux that can cat a .csv file, and format it into columns
[23:35] <scunizi> bluefox83: hummm .. you might want to "update", "upgrade", "dist-upgrade" in terminal and see if it pops up then
[23:35] <HappyHobo> Is there a faster server to get jackalope?  This 5 hours mess is ridiculous.
[23:35] <oh_noes> so it's a easier to read in CLI
[23:35] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: i think i see the bar but it doesn't move
[23:36] <Andrewjs> well i'm trying to figure out if i'm ok for updates since i deleted some third party sources
[23:36] <theunixgeek> When I try to boot from my Ubuntu USB drive, I get "Boot Error." I copied the Ubuntu disk image to it with UNetbootin.
[23:36] <invernizzi> shortguy109: is it too low or too high?
[23:36] <derrich> has anyone else found that the ubuntu 9.04 repositories are getting hit awfully hard? it would make sense, given that it was just released today, i'm just wondering if that's why apt/synaptic are downloading packages so slowly
[23:36] <Cougarten> stittel: oh and volumecontrol is a bit tricky too, but you can just control it with the mouse...
[23:36] <psychic> soreau can u help me if its gnome?
[23:36] <mattwj2002> !64bit
[23:36] <stittel> Cougarten: You are referring to 9.04 Netbook Remix, right?
[23:36] <Guest73621> hey how do I update ubuntu to the latest?
[23:36] <soreau> psychic: Umm.. you said nvidia graphics too?
[23:36] <invernizzi> derrich: try a different mirror
[23:36] <macman> guys can't get sound working .. alsamixer says pcm and maser is all the way up .. any ideas on how to fix ?
[23:36] <neo644> yeah, the servers are really getting hit bad
[23:36] <leftfield> anyone know when canonicals servers will compensate for the traffic, about
[23:36] <admin_masu3701> #ubuntu+1 is being forwarded to this channel?
[23:36] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: what do u mean? :o
[23:36] <bluefox83> scunizi, sorry, didn't work...
[23:36] <psychic> soreau no trident cyberblade
[23:36] <theunixgeek> neo644: I got my download at around 220 kpbs
[23:37] <theunixgeek> *kbps
[23:37] <neo644> Ive got 8kb/s on a 2mib/s connection
[23:37] <mylesmadness> would this guide still work for 9.04: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_(ndiswrapper)
[23:37] <invernizzi> shortguy109: the bar is empty or full?
[23:37] <DisabledDuck> i'm using Mythbuntu, i don't have fileroller, and the tar command won't work, does anyone have any idea's what i can do to get this file open?
[23:37] <derrich> invernizzi: ok, i'll poke around. thanks
[23:37] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: empty
[23:37] <Cougarten> Guest73621: do you have Jaunty allready?
[23:37] <admin_masu3701> #ubuntu+1 is being forwarded to this channel?
[23:37] <leftfield> repositories average for me was around 20kb
[23:37] <soreau> psychic: What is the output of 'lspci|grep VGA'?
[23:37] <oh_noes> is there any util in linux that can cat a .csv file, and format it into columns so it's a easier to read in CLI
[23:37] <wolter> DisabledDuck, why don't you get fileroller?
[23:37] <theunixgeek> DisabledDuck: /join #mythbuntu
[23:37] <Guest73621> I have kubuntu 9.04 rc or beta.
[23:38] <psychic> soreau   01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade XPAi1 (rev 82)
[23:38] <zsquareplusc> admin_masu3701: because its was released today and +1 is opened in some weeks again for the next release in 6 months
[23:38] <SisMidnight_> is there anyone on here that can chat with me one on one about my problem?
[23:38] <Cougarten> Guest73621: it will update itself as usual, but you can check it under system - systemmanagement - updatesomething
[23:38] <theunixgeek> Is it safe to resize an NTFS partition?
[23:38] <theunixgeek> SisMidnight_: why can't you ask it here?
[23:38] <leftfield> jaunty, overall, is excellent.  But, had to resort to NVIDIA's site for the driver.
[23:38] <admin_masu3701> oh ok
[23:38] <neo644> How long does it usually take for the servers to recover from new releases (eg. the download speeds arent ridiculously slow)
[23:38] <SisMidnight_> i have and no one is answering
[23:38] <soreau> psychic: Wow. I have no knowledge of that chipset or what the max resolution might be. Your best bet would be to google, sorry
[23:38] <Cougarten> theunixgeek: never safe bit works most times
[23:38] <leftfield> Firestarter finally came through, in about 3 min.
[23:38] <Andrewjs> i accidently deleted third party sources..can someone help me?
[23:38] <ais523> SisMidnight_: ask again, then, in case someone who knows is here now
[23:39] <admin_masu3701> how long will it take to upgrade from 8.10?
[23:39] <Crayboff> I'm updating from 8.10 to 9.04 and a warning came up. "This computer is currently using AMD 'fglrx' graphics driver. No version of this driver is available that works with your hardware in [9.04]"
[23:39] <Guest73621> o ok
[23:39] <diegoviola> neo644: use bittorrent
[23:39] <leftfield> neo, on 7.xx, my situation was 2 days.
[23:39] <SisMidnight_> i have a dell mini 9.....want to know if there is a restore of some type to go back
[23:39] <theunixgeek> Cougarten: so gparted won't mess up my Windows partition (if it does, it's still ok, but I'd rather it didn't)? I won't blame you if anything goes wrong ;)
[23:39] <Cougarten> theunixgeek: right
[23:39] <neo644> admin_masu3701, ages with the current state of the servers.
[23:39] <magcius> Hmm... this is actually a Xandros box, but they have no IRC, but, this is the error I'm getting when trying to connect to the net: http://pastebin.com/d78b7a48d
[23:39] <psychic> soreau its common 1200x 800 or somthing like that also when i start my computer it tells me that i have an unsupported chipset
[23:39] <invernizzi> shortguy109: mmm. the bug that's common on dells is this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/275998?comments=all . search for "marcus granado" for the solution to the bug.
[23:40] <hbekel> theunixgeek: it won't unless you used vista to create partitions
[23:40] <neo644> diegoviola, i am not downloading the cd, just using the upgrade tool
[23:40] <tclineks> i just upgraded a machine from intrepid to jaunty and now ssh hangs when i try to log in
[23:40] <tclineks> from a mac
[23:40] <psychic> soreau but i was still able to get the max res b4
[23:40] <mrwes> So what's the state of Brasero? More reliable now?
[23:40] <Cougarten> hbekel: oh didn't know thx
[23:40] <invernizzi> shortguy109: I'm sorry, but I got to go now. You'll have to ask someone else :-(
[23:40] <jaypur> I'm having problems with ACPI invalid PBLK, can someone help me?
[23:40] <Crayboff> I need to know if i should continue or not, what's up w/ that error?
[23:40] <leftfield> Yes, mrwes, brasero is stable, and faster
[23:40] <leftfield> for me, anyways
[23:40] <Shortguy109> invernizzi: that's alright, thanks very much for the help!!! :)
[23:40] <scunizi> mrwes: k3b.. k3b.. k3b
[23:40] <ais523> SisMidnight_: what did you have on there before?
[23:40] <kaarne> is there a known issue in 9.04 NBR with WPA connections? cant get it to work, wep is no problem
[23:40] <SisMidnight_> heron
[23:41] <theunixgeek> hbekel: I used Ubuntu to create a Windows and a Linux partition, then changed over to Fedora, and now I want to copy the Ubuntu disk image over to this new partition so I can install Ubuntu from my HD since my disk drive is broken
[23:41] <soreau> psychic: It might be you need to be using the correct graphics driver.. do you know which one you're using? (/var/log/Xorg.0.log file would tell what driver(s) are being loaded)
[23:41] <mrwes> leftfield, been burning dvd iso's from the command line - - just wondering
[23:41] <Cougarten> kaane : having a ralink chipset? (EEE PCs have one)
[23:41] <proq> I have a dell XPS one with a several buttons on the monitor.  in ubuntu they are off and don't seem to respond. does anyone know how to get these working in ubuntu 9 or 8?
[23:41] <kaarne> yes cougarten
[23:41] <leftfield> growisofs would still be faster
[23:41] <neo644> You have to download 1101M. This will take about 5 hours with your connection.
[23:41] <neo644> T_T
[23:41] <SisMidnight_> i know nothing about ubuntu
[23:41] <Cougarten> kaane: eee 1000 or 901?
[23:41] <kaarne> 901
[23:41] <ais523> SisMidnight_: you need to reinstall to go back a distribution, the package manager isn't capable of doing a simultaneous downgrade of all packages
[23:41] <mrwes> leftfield, yah...I have an alias for that -- burndvd
[23:41] <hbekel> Cougarten: see http://www.multibooters.co.uk/partitions.html
[23:41] <Cougarten> kaane: it just happens if you use wpa+wpa2
[23:41] <mrwes> works great
[23:41] <theunixgeek> proq: there is no "Ubuntu 9" or "Ubuntu 8." There are, though, 8.04, 8.10, and 9.04
[23:41] <badfish69> what linux kernel version does jaunty use?
[23:41] <SisMidnight_> ok...reinstall what...i have no disc
[23:41] <theunixgeek> and soon, 9.10
[23:41] <hbekel> theunixgeek: in that case gparted should work fine
[23:42] <theunixgeek> hbekel: alright, and do you know how to copy a disk image to an HD?
[23:42] <theunixgeek> *a partition
[23:42] <wolter> theunixgeek, not that soon
[23:42] <leftfield> Linux ubuntu64desktop 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:58:03 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:42] <hbekel> theunixgeek: a unix geek should know dd ;)
[23:42] <kaarne> cougarten: only wpa+wpa2, wep works fine
[23:42] <mrwes> badfish69, 2.6.28-11-generic
[23:42] <proq> theunixgeek: yes, I know.  I've been using ubuntu since the first release
[23:42] <wolter> theunixgeek, about 6 months =(
[23:42] <riwa> Just updated to 9.04. Now I cant start openarena. Its installed from sources (not the repos).
[23:42] <hbekel> theunixgeek: you can use dd, but you'll have to think
[23:42] <Cougarten> kaane: you could roll back the driver or switch to wpa2 only. search for the bugreport (rt2680 is the chipsets name)
[23:42] <theunixgeek> hbekel: ah, good point, I didn't even think about it :D
[23:42] <wolter> I want it because they are going to implement the plymouth thing
[23:42] <Praetor_Khan> Ran the update manager to upgrade to Jaunty but after the reboot I'm still running Ibex.
[23:42] <theunixgeek> hbekel: yeah, but I'd rather not think too much and mess something up :X
[23:43] <admin_masu3701> neo644: cause alot people are upgrading?
[23:43] <kaarne> cougarten: I'll check that out, thx so far
[23:43] <proq> theunixgeek: saying that is like saying there is no os x 10.5, only 10.5.0, 10.5.1, 10.5.2, etc.
[23:43] <soreau> matt__: Here it is, it's because of a race condition. Read post 8 here from maniac (the compiz developer that programmed the workaround)http://nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=129711
[23:43] <neo644> admin_masu3701, exactly.
[23:43] <admin_masu3701> i see
[23:43] <stittel> Cougarten: You have been referring to version 9.04 of Netbook Remix, right?
[23:43] <ais523> SisMidnight_: downgrading is difficult, you need to back up your files, wipe the computer, and put Hardy back onto it from a CD; it's not really recommended to do that
[23:43] <riwa> I get this when checking for updates: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[23:43] <SisMidnight_> reinstall what....i have no disc
[23:43] <theunixgeek> proq: no.. Ubuntu version numbering is completely different
[23:43] <always> Hi, i need a package for read .chm files
[23:43] <theunixgeek> proq: you could, however, say ubuntu 8.x
[23:43] <jeiworth_> SisMidnight_: download 8.10 from ubuntu.org
[23:43] <theunixgeek> I think
[23:43] <always> xchm in repository is obsoleted
[23:44] <theunixgeek> proq: but saying Ubuntu 8 or Ubuntu 8.x isn't at all "standard"
[23:44] <riwa> always: xchm
[23:44] <anxiolytic> How come when I drag a window, music pauses until I let the window go? This happens only with compiz OFF and with any music player. Happens on Hardy/Intrepid/Jaunty
[23:44] <mnk> alex-weej, i pasted it but i get the same error
[23:44] <proq> theunixgeek: that is your opinion.  both increment their version numbers over time.
[23:44] <mnk> alex-weej, i pasted it but i get the same error - invalid uri
[23:44] <Cougarten> stittel : I used NBR with 8.x and now using jaunty without NBR, but the hotkeys should work the same as on my mashine now
[23:44] <LjL> !info gnochm | always
[23:44] <theunixgeek> proq: yes, but Ubuntu increments it according to the year and month it's released, while OS X does it sequentially
[23:44] <alex-weej> mnk: ok try this: gst-launch-0.10  filesrc location="/path/to/file" ! decodebin ! audioconvert ! gconfaudiosink
[23:45] <Crayboff> ok, warning appeared during upgrade to 9.04 saying that 9.04 doesn't have an AMD 'fglrx' graphics driver, what should I do? should I continue the upgrades?
[23:45] <sele_> hi
[23:45] <magcius> Hmm... this is actually a Xandros box, but they have no IRC, but, this is the error I'm getting when trying to connect to the net: http://pastebin.com/d78b7a48d
[23:45] <proq> theunixgeek: yes, I know.  like I said, I've been using ubuntu since the first release
[23:45] <Cougarten> anxiolytic: can't really help you, but I'd check if it's the same with VLC-player. it has it's own codex
[23:45] <magcius> bah, stupid me, hit the up button
[23:45] <always> ubottu is package obsoletd
[23:45] <ToxMox> anybody intimately familiar with mdadm?
[23:45] <bdrung_> Crayboff: what graphic card do you have?
[23:45] <sele_> newer :)
[23:45] <stittel> Cougarten: Ok, thanks again.
[23:46] <Imdsm> anyone know of any reasons why easy peasy/ubtunu eee might not want to boot from USB whilst other distros (i.e deb) do (on eee 1000h)?
[23:46] <miramardesign> i need to upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04.. best way?????
[23:46] <ais523> miramardesign: go via 8.10
[23:46] <jeiworth_> ToxMox: i set up a software raid-5 ages ago with mdmadm
[23:46] <Crayboff> bdrung_: umm how do i figure this out? I have an inspiron 1521 w/ whatever came with it
[23:46] <miramardesign> so I need 8.10 1st???
[23:46] <mnk> alex-weej, http://pastebin.com/m464bdd5f
[23:46] <Cougarten> : Imdsm: it should
[23:46] <mrwes> miramardesign, either upgrade to 8.10 first then 9.04, or do a fresh install of 9.04
[23:46] <mnk> alex-weej, thanks for ur help btw
[23:47] <mnk> alex-weej, much appreciated
[23:47] <miramardesign> k, answered my question ther mr ais
[23:47] <SisMidnight_> would that be 8.04LTS
[23:47] <bdrung_> Crayboff: run "lspci" in an terminal
[23:47] <Praetor_Khan> Ran the update manager to upgrade to Jaunty but after the reboot I'm still running Ibex.
[23:47] <Cougarten> Imdsm: used Unetbootin or something?
[23:47] <alex-weej> mnk: ok one more, do gst-launch-0.10 -v blabla ! blabla ! etc.
[23:47] <ToxMox> jeiworth: my raid 5 is screwed. Upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 today and only 3 out my 5 drives were showing in the raid.  mdadm won't let me stop the raid to attempt to reassemble it
[23:47] <mrwes> Praetor_Khan, open a terminal, what does lsb_release -rd say?
[23:47] <miramardesign> im  downloading 8.10 now but its taking 4ever and so i wanted to know if it could skip it / guess not!
[23:47] <progre55> hi everybody! Jaunty is not recognizing my video card "VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter" and my wireless. please somebody help
[23:47] <alex-weej> mnk: that is, put a minus-v in the command
[23:48] <mnk> ok alex-weej
[23:48] <Imdsm> Cougarten: i cant think why, I have the easyp iso 1.1, md5 checks out, ive used netbootin windows & also put it by linux, i used linux to dd over a debian image and it booted fine, but windows netbooting and manually putting it on with (http://wiki.geteasypeasy.com/Install:_from_a_Live_Ubuntu_image_on_a_USB_stick#How_to_configure_a_USB_stick_manually) just dont seem to work
[23:48] <SisMidnight_> don't see a download for 8.10
[23:48] <psychic> soreau http://pastebin.com/m781d5ee1
[23:48] <mnk> alex-weej,  http://pastebin.com/m2ce61629
[23:48] <jeiworth_> ToxMox: hm whats the error message when you do try? is the config file still correct'
[23:48] <Cougarten> Imdsm : strange, maybe they can help you in the easy-peasy channel... I can't
[23:48] <Crayboff> bdrung_: where in lspci is it?
[23:49] <zsquareplusc> SisMidnight_: use the update manager. but 1sst use the package settings to enable the 6 month releases instead of LTS
[23:49] <Imdsm> Cougarten: i'll try, but i think they're sleeping, ;) it's awfully quiet in there
[23:49] <Praetor_Khan> It says: Description:Ubuntu 8.10 Release:8.10
[23:49] <Imdsm> Cougarten: thnx anyway mate
[23:49] <Cougarten> Imdsm: btw, why do you choose easy-peasy?
[23:49] <SisMidnight_> i do not understand anything you are saying...know nothing about ubuntu
[23:49] <miramardesign> so jaunty loads much quicker i hear....??
[23:49] <mrwes> Praetor_Khan, you ran sudo update-manager -d ?
[23:49] <tas> It boots up much faster, yes
[23:49] <bdrung_> Crayboff: "lspci | grep VGA"
[23:49] <Cougarten> miramardesign : yes
[23:49] <ZanQdo> hi
[23:50] <soreau> psychic: That doesn't help much. /var/log/Xorg.0.log is a lot bigger file than three lines
[23:50] <Imdsm> Cougarten: ubtunu eee /e p seemed to have good compatability from what i read, and xandros is shit, so i thought i'd try e p
[23:50] <miramardesign> heron takes me forever on this system
[23:50] <ZanQdo> Im installing the new ubuntu netbook on my acer one
[23:50] <SisMidnight_> asking in a chat like this makes it hard to understand what to do
[23:50] <riwa> After update my gfx card doesn't seem to work.
[23:50] <ZanQdo> theres this formatting options I dont understand
[23:50] <zsquareplusc> SisMidnight_: look at the System->Administration  menu there should be an entry about package managment and the update manager
[23:50] <miramardesign> Coug : how much faster did u get??
[23:50] <Crayboff> ah, " ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]"
[23:50] <ToxMox> jeiworth: message is "mdadm: fail to stop array /dev/md0: Device or resource busy" not sure if config file is correct anymore.  think drive assignments got changed during upgrade to 8.10  modified mdadm.conf to have new drive assignments doesn't seem to do anything.  would like to force an assemble --scan but can't because of error
[23:50] <Cougarten> Imdsm: the new ubuntu works even better (faster boot)
[23:50] <perlsyntax> how do i update the network-mantger in ubuntu 9.04?
[23:50] <riwa> Or it works.. But my fps is like HALF
[23:50] <Crayboff> bdrung_ ^
[23:50] <ZanQdo> Install them side by side?
[23:50] <perlsyntax> ?
[23:50] <Imdsm> Cougarten: am i right in assuming that easy peasy split from ubuntu then?
[23:51] <mnk> did u get that alex-weej
[23:51] <mnk> ?
[23:51] <Cougarten> Imdsm: and the few extra applications can be installed aswell. No it did not, but they use 8.x, not ubuntu 9.x
[23:51] <alex-weej> mnk: that's really odd. do you have any other wma files you can test?
[23:51] <ZanQdo> is this some way to share the windows and linux partition?
[23:51] <perlsyntax> i have prob  get my network-mangter to work with my att pc card
[23:51] <psychic> soreau http://pastebin.com/m1338b902
[23:51] <tas> Uh, I have a question; I wanted to know if there's a temperature guage for Ubuntu like OS X's iStat or Windows Speedfan, preferably a desktop widget since I dont have anything on there
[23:51] <perlsyntax> anyone got a idea
[23:51] <jeiworth_> ToxMox: hmm lsof /dev/md0 might shed some light
[23:51] <Imdsm> Cougarten: ahh i see
[23:51] <kilrae-laptop> is it possible to set up a second automounted ecryptfs folder?
[23:51] <mnk> yes alex-weej - the weird thing is that they all work in mplayer
[23:51] <mnk> alex-weej, but not in totem
[23:51] <perlsyntax> anyone
[23:51] <Praetor_Khan> mrwes, I just ran the update manager through the menu.  So I'm doing it wrong?
[23:52] <Imdsm> Cougarten: i'll try the ubuntu standard then, see how that treats me :)
[23:52] <Cougarten> Imdsm: but keep an eye on easy-peasy now that they don't have to care about hardware they might develop other useful stuff
[23:52] <telaviv> is anyone else having problems with apt-get update right now?
[23:52] <SisMidnight_> synaptic package manager?
[23:52] <jeiworth_> ToxMox: that mdadm was changed during upgrade sounds to me a bit worrysome too
[23:52] <bdrung_> Crayboff: fglrx dropped the support for this card, but there is the free ati driver, which provides the same features (like xv and 3d). so you can continue upgrading
[23:52] <jeiworth_> mdadm.conf that is
[23:52] <Cougarten> Imdsm: there is a netbook version too
[23:52] <zsquareplusc> tas: sensors-applet in gnome and sensors-settup console tool may need to be run once to discover the sensors
[23:52] <mnk> alex-weej, i tested another one - same issue
[23:52] <sele_> who i can download the ubuntu dvd installer torrent?
[23:52] <Crayboff> bdrung_: will i have to install any drivers?
[23:52] <Cougarten> Imdsm: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-netbook
[23:52] <perlsyntax> how do i uppdate my network manger in ubuntu 9.04
[23:52] <Imdsm> Cougarten: ah, i spose they do kinda have it easy there ;), ah nice, thnx ^
[23:53] <SisMidnight_> synaptic package manager?
[23:53] <bdrung_> Crayboff: no, the ati driver is installed and used by default.
[23:53] <perlsyntax> i try apt-get no update
[23:53] <ZanQdo> Cougarten: in this netbook version, can you explain the side by side installation?
[23:53] <jeiworth_> ToxMox: you said one hdd was dropped from the array?
[23:53] <ZanQdo> what will it do?
[23:53] <alex-weej> mnk: are you sure they aren't DRM'd?
[23:53] <anxiolytic> Cougarten: with VLC, the audio keeps playing when I drag something but the video stops
[23:53] <zsquareplusc> SisMidnight_: yeah that works too, you can go to its properties to choose how you want to upgrade
[23:53] <mnk> what's DRM alex-weej ?
[23:53] <tas> zsquare: How do I run those? I should note I'm on a macbook 5,1, but I already set them up so that they should work
[23:53] <Cougarten> anxiolytic: intresting, but I'm no Linuxpro so I can't help, sry
[23:53] <Crayboff> alright, dang it it just came up with a warning saying some 3rd party stuff was disabled, and i had to press close, bdrung_ how do i fix this?
[23:54] <tas> However I've heard nothing of those Gnome Applets you mentioned
[23:54] <LordMetro> I need help backing up!
[23:54] <mrwes> Praetor_Khan, check your software sources and make sure you have releases set to Normal under the update tab
[23:54] <zsquareplusc> tas: the applet, you can simply add by right clicking on the panel and choose "add.."
[23:54] <anxiolytic> yeah. I think I've always experienced this but was using compiz so I didn't care
[23:54] <SisMidnight_> i apologize but i don't understand
[23:54] <LordMetro> I am in the shell of the installer
[23:54] <alex-weej> !drm | mnk
[23:54] <alex-weej> what
[23:54] <mnk> btw alex-weej i tried your command with an mp3 file that does work but same error
[23:54] <anxiolytic> ubuntu has been way too unstable for me after Hardy
[23:54] <mnk> !rdrm
[23:54] <LordMetro> What name can I find my usb drive under /dev ?
[23:54] <mnk> !drm
[23:54] <omolina> hi all
[23:55] <perlsyntax> god i talk to myself.
[23:55] <mnk> !drm
[23:55] <SisMidnight_> properties is all greyed out
[23:55] <jeiworth_> ToxMox: brb, feel free to query/msg
[23:55] <alex-weej> mnk: OOPS. you left out most of the command!
[23:55] <mnk> ?
[23:55] <soreau> psychic: That's better. It's falling back to the "vesa" driver which works with any video (with no acceleration or possibly not correct resolution settings) If it's saying low graphics mode when you boot, you have to fix your video driver installation. Unfortunately I have no idea how to do that for your chipset / card
[23:55] <nrg__> is it just me or are the update servers super slow right now?
[23:55] <ToxMox> jeiworth...already msging :)  did you get them?
[23:55] <bdrung_> Crayboff: was fglrx the 3rd party stuff?
[23:55] <alex-weej> mnk: it's supposed to be: gst-launch-0.10 filesrc locaton=whatever ! decodebin ! audioconvert ! gconfaudiosink
[23:55] <Crayboff> bdrung_: i dunno
[23:55] <alex-weej> mnk: you left everything out after the filesrc bit
[23:55] <nrg__> donwloading at 50 kb/s
[23:55] <Praetor_Khan> mrwes, yeah, releases are set to normal.
[23:56] <wolter> nrg__, yeah
[23:56] <mnk> alex-weej,  http://pastebin.com/m605cd4d1
[23:56] <wolter> nrg__, there is a solution
[23:56] <mnk> alex-weej, sorry!
[23:56] <mrwes> Praetor_Khan, open a terminal and type sudo update-manager -d
[23:56] <wolter> nrg__, go to software sources, click the server dropdown, select Other...
[23:56] <psychic> soreau last time when i fixxed it i had to comment out a line in some file
[23:56] <wolter> Then click on choose best server
[23:56] <Imdsm> LordFDisk: depends what your other drives are, usually /dev/sda or sdb etc, check dmesg
[23:56] <docid> quick question guys, has anybody dont distupgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 without issues?
[23:56] <Crayboff> bdrung_: well imma gonna figure that stuff out later, thanks for your help
[23:56] <Praetor_Khan> mrwes, alright.  Done.
[23:56] <soreau> psychic: Can you pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[23:56] <perlsyntax> does anyone know yabout any update for the network-manager?
[23:56] <LordMetro> What filename does an usb drive have under /dev for mounting?
[23:56] <wolter> nrg__, that will ping all the servers, and the one with which you have the better download speed will be chosen automatically
[23:56] <alex-weej> mnk: did you rip these .wma files with windows media player?
[23:56] <rapha> How do I get sound to play over my bluetooth headset in Jaunty?
[23:56] <mnk> alex-weej, the mp3 one works now
[23:56] <naxa> how can i set the resolution of the console (tty, ctrl-alt-f1)? my intel driver and video card combo always mess up with it
[23:56] <tas> Anyway, is there a temperature widget or something to that effect for Jaunty?
[23:56] <mrwes> Praetor_Khan, anything happening? heh
[23:56] <nrg__> ok
[23:56] <ais523> docid: I updated from 8.10 to 9.04 beta with no issues, and I've had issues at every other upload in the past
[23:56] <bdrung_> Crayboff: i would just continue the upgrade. if you notice that some 3rd party stuff is missing, then you have to install the 3rd party stuff afterwards.
[23:57] <zonked> docid - I had to unplug external monitor from laptop port.
[23:57] <SisMidnight_> what am i looking for
[23:57] <SisMidnight_> ?
[23:57] <zonked> docid everything else went fine
[23:57] <mnk> alex-weej, no i ripped them in ubuntu - they used to work before in intrepid
[23:57] <perlsyntax> hello!
[23:57] <wolter> nrg__, I was getting 9000B/s. After that, 133KB/s
[23:57] <Praetor_Khan> mrwes, the update manager popped up.
[23:57] <nrg__> looks like it corrected itself
[23:57] <hbekel> LordMetro: sd<something> check dmesg after pluggin it in to find out
[23:57] <alex-weej> mnk: you ripped them TO WMA?
[23:57] <mnk> alex-weej, do u have a file that u know works that u could send to me?
[23:57] <wolter> nrg__, which is your download speed now?
[23:57] <alex-weej> mnk: with Ubuntu?!
[23:57] <nrg__> back to normal speeds
[23:57] <wolter> what*
[23:57] <zsquareplusc> SisMidnight_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades for 8.04->8.10  then https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades for 8.10->9.04
[23:58] <LordMetro> hbekel I did a dmesg and I got a lot of text
[23:58] <alex-weej> mnk: i don't have any wma
[23:58] <mnk> alex-weej, i think so -
[23:58] <alex-weej> mnk: maybe you could send one to me?
[23:58] <wolter> !who | nrg__
[23:58] <nrg__> 150 +
[23:58] <SisMidnight_> what?
[23:58] <LordMetro> sdb I suppose
[23:58] <nrg__> ubottu, : ok, my apologies
[23:58] <docid> cool, just wanted to get an idea if this was casueing problems with anybody this time around,  i already had 9.04 on this lappy, but my box at home is 8.10, and  im liking many things about 9.04 just slightly wary about doing the deed on my big box
[23:58] <alex-weej> mnk: email the smallest one to alex@weej.com
[23:58] <wolter> ubottu, are you an intelligent human?
[23:58] <Cougarten> can someone tell the bot to include that TAB usually auto-completes names?
[23:58] <hbekel> LordMetro: look at the end of those msgs
[23:59] <lstarnes> !tab | Cougarten
[23:59] <psychic> soreau http://pastebin.com/m678c8c59
[23:59] <SisMidnight_> i apologize again but this isn't making any sense
[23:59] <mnk> ok alex-weej
[23:59] <cousteau> what's the best way to upgrade hardy to jaunty? upgrade to intrepid and then jaunty, or install jaunty (keeping /home)?
[23:59] <Cougarten> lstarnes : should be includet in !who aswell
[23:59] <anxiolytic> any recommendations for apps to make screencasts on Linux?
[23:59] <LordMetro> dev/sdb nor /dev/sdb1 want mount using for example "mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb", telling me it is an invalid argument
[23:59] <oh_noes> is it possible to get my OS uptime in minutes
[23:59] <ais523> cousteau: going via intrepid certainly works, a clean install lets you do other interesting things if you like