[01:10] <magcius> Is there a way to tell when my package is going to be built?
[01:19] <wgrant> magcius: It will give you an estimate on the build page - you can get there by expanding the package on your PPA page, and clicking on the architecture in which you are interested.
[01:20] <magcius> 6 hours :(
[01:22] <wgrant> magcius: Things normally start building in a matter of seconds, but it's all a bit off today because of Ubuntu 9.04.
[01:22] <magcius> wgrant, ah.
[01:22] <wgrant> magcius: If you look at https://launchpad.net/builders, you can see the backlog.
[01:23] <magcius> I'm curious why it's off today because of Ubuntu 9.04?
[01:23] <magcius> Are they repurposing the builders?
[01:24] <spm> yes
[01:24] <wgrant> magcius: There are normally about three times as many builders. I've heard they're now serving release downlodas.
[01:24] <wgrant> And lots of the remaining builders were down for several hours earlier, because of Launchpad load problems.
[01:24] <magcius> Ah, okay.
[01:24] <magcius> They already have tons of mirrors.
[01:25] <wgrant> There's never enough, though.
[01:25] <magcius> Why can't they do that "Select Best Site" thing in Software Sources in update-manager?
[01:25] <wgrant> All of the local mirrors collapse much more quickly than Canonical's.
[01:26] <spm> wgrant: aye. from what little I've seen, some of the mirrors were flatlining their connections. whee.
[01:26] <wgrant> spm: Yep. We somehow need to encourage more torrents.
[01:26] <wgrant> spm: And work out a good solution for distributed archive mirrors...
[01:26] <magcius> wgrant, why not have the update-manager use torrents?
[01:27] <wgrant> magcius: That would be ideal, and apt-p2p does that, but it can't really be installed by default.
[01:28] <magcius> And actually, when I used the Select Best Site option, those weren't timing out.
[01:46] <magcius> Is there a way to make a PPA apply to more than one version of Ubuntu?
[01:47] <Nafallo> magcius: yes. upload source packages for different versions of ubuntu.
[01:47] <magcius> Nafallo, :(
[01:48] <magcius> Nafallo, is there a tool to modify debian/control, run debuild and dput them?
[01:48] <Nafallo> not that I know of that does it automatically (thank god)
[01:49] <magcius> Nafallo, so you do it manually?
[01:49] <magcius> Nafallo, why is that a "thank god"?
[01:50] <Nafallo> because I'm not a fan of automatisation when it comes to things that should be quality controlled.
[01:50] <Nafallo> :-)
[01:57] <mwhudson> there is autoppa
[02:23] <magcius> mwhudson_, autoppa's latest PPA is for Gusty?
[02:23] <mwhudson_> maybe it's not maintained then
[03:07]  * Kangarooo is try to digga and figga aut Lauchpad
[03:07] <Kangarooo> why in launchpad i cant put that bug also affects distribution xubuntu? Also affects distribution/package
[03:08] <cody-somerville> Xubuntu is a flavour of Ubuntu
[03:11] <Kangarooo> hmm ok so if there is problem with xubuntu then it can be solved in #ubuntu and if problem with video card then in #x.org ? and if problem that xubuntu doesnt have guest accoung when pressing quit button then its report needed to #xfce ? right?
[03:30] <cody-somerville> no
[07:32] <OdyX> Hi. I have a bug in a Debian package (kdesudo) for which Launchpad is upstream (aka kdesudo is developed on the Launchpad). How should I forward the bug ? Simple copy-paste in Launchpad ?
[07:53] <noodles775> gmb: ^^^ ?
[07:54] <gmb> Hmm. Interesting one.
[07:54] <gmb> OdyX: So, to be clear, there's no record of the bug in Launchpad at the moment, right?
[07:55] <gmb> And the fix for the bug needs to happen in the upstream, which tracks its bugs using LP?
[08:37] <AnAnt> Hello, I got several packages hosted in the same branch: lp:sabily-artwork
[08:38] <AnAnt> is it possible to migrate each package to a separate branch, keeping along the history ?
[08:41] <OdyX> gmb: exactly.
[08:41] <OdyX> well.. there is "sort of" the same bug... but not on same version... This bug seems specific to actual Debian unstable (I did try it in Ubuntu qemu and no fail)
[08:55] <AnAnt> hmm
[09:01] <mpt> AnAnt, you'd probably get a quicker answer to your question in #bzr
[09:01] <AnAnt> ok
[09:02] <mpt> But one possibility that occurs to me is making a branch of your original branch for each package, and then in each of those, deleting the files that don't belong
[09:16] <rowinggolfer> are there any good gui frontends for bzr?
[09:16] <AnAnt> thatnks
[09:16] <AnAnt> thanks
[09:21] <balor> Are there any plans for lp to support git in the near future?
[09:22] <beuno> balor, yes, git imports should happen soon-ish
[09:22] <balor> beuno: Great.  Thanks.
[10:09] <gmb> OdyX: Hmm. okay. So, I think your best solution in this case is to file the bug against the project in Launchpad and include a link to the original report. It's then up to the maintainers of the project to decide where the bug actually is.
[10:09] <OdyX> gmb: Okay. Clear. I am kdesudo maintainer for Debian btw ;)
[10:11] <gmb> OdyX: Ok. So if the upstream maintainer (I'm assuming that's someone else :)) decides it's not a bug in kdesudo upstream then you can track the bug in DebBugs and Launchpad can simply track its status. LP should automatically start doing that when you include the link to the original bug in your new report.
[10:11] <OdyX> okay.
[10:33] <OdyX> gmb: Done that way : https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/kdesudo/+bug/365956
[10:33] <gmb> OdyX: Perfect! Nicely done.
[10:43] <KIAaze> hi, what happened to the i386 build farm? https://launchpad.net/builders
[10:43] <KIAaze> there were more machines before, no?
[10:47] <wgrant> KIAaze: They were taken temporarily for use in the Ubuntu 9.04 release.
[10:47] <KIAaze> ok, thx
[10:48] <KIAaze> it's the first time I notice all the consequences of such a release. :)
[11:07] <poolie> BjornT (or whoever): who's allowed to change the status of a series-targetted bug task?
[11:07] <poolie> apparently someone in the project team can't do it
[11:08] <BjornT> poolie: anyone can change the status of any bug task
[11:09] <poolie> ok, i think it's probably because he was on edge and not logged in there
[11:09] <poolie> thansk
[11:28] <philn> hi
[11:29] <philn> is it possible to attach a file to a bug using launchpadlib?
[11:31] <wgrant> philn: See https://edge.launchpad.net/+apidoc/#bug, the addAttachment method.
[11:32] <philn> yep, just found it
[12:30] <philn> i get a strange error when calling addAttachment(), the data has to be serialized in JSON?
[12:33] <intellectronica> philn: what error do you get?
[12:34] <philn> <StringIO.StringIO instance at 0xa91186c> is not JSON serializable
[12:35] <wgrant> It has to be a string.
[12:35] <philn> ok so i misunderstood the doc
[12:35] <philn> data
[12:35] <philn> 	
[12:35] <philn> (required)
[12:35] <philn> Link to a file resource. 	
[12:36] <wgrant> That looks like the description for the internal API.
[12:36] <wgrant> Like lots of the stuff in the webservice API is :(
[12:37] <philn> ok with a string it worked, thx
[12:40] <intellectronica> wgrant, philn: yeah, the automagically generated +apidoc is often confusing. we will find a way to improve it
[12:44] <wgrant> intellectronica: I suppose the best thing might be to add a description kwarg to lazr.restful.declarations.export*.
[12:48] <intellectronica> wgrant: yeah, i guess that might be the solution
[14:06] <nawi> I have an old bug that is supposedly fixed and I haven't got any responses https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/308410
[14:10] <Ampelbein> nawi: try #ubuntu-x - there should be the experts for xorg related issues
[15:47] <cody-somerville> launchpad is sloooow today :(
[16:04] <KIAaze> hola :)
[16:04] <KIAaze> What is the build score on launchpad?
[16:04] <matsubara> cprov: can you answer KIAaze ?
[16:05] <cprov> KIAaze: build priority, the higher the sooner a build will be dispatched.
[16:05] <KIAaze> and how is the build priority set?
[16:06] <KIAaze> I suppose retrying a build resets it to 0. But what about the other cases?
[16:06] <cprov> KIAaze: messy heuristic on the build archive (PPA, PRIMARY, PARTNER), source component, urgency and age in queue (basically)
[16:06] <cprov> KIAaze: oh, PPA privacy as well.
[16:08] <KIAaze> thx
[16:09] <soren> jml: Thanks for the speedy vcs import review :)
[16:09] <cprov> KIAaze: can you, please, file a question on Soyuz for describing these aspects in the wiki ? I think it would be nice to have that as a reference in the future.
[16:10] <KIAaze> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-documentation/+bug/329227
[16:11] <cprov> KIAaze: cool
[16:12] <KIAaze> there's another missing thing in the packaging docs I noticed recently: what are the version nb conventions. I found it somewhere after a while, but it should be in the packaging help.
[16:12] <cprov> thanks
[16:12] <cprov> KIAaze: 'nb' ?
[16:12] <KIAaze> 1.3.5-XubuntuY
[16:13] <KIAaze> what values X and Y should have and when to add the ubuntu part
[16:13] <KIAaze> http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/17/ubuntu-package-version-naming-explanation/
[16:13] <cprov> KIAaze: right, but what does the term 'nb' expand to ?
[16:13] <KIAaze> nb=number
[16:13] <cprov> errr, okay :)
[16:14] <cprov> right, that part of the version is an ubuntu policy, and I think it's explained in the packaging-guide, no ?
[16:17] <KIAaze> yes, it's here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete but not there: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[16:17] <KIAaze> I had to google a bit. :)
[16:18] <KIAaze> mmh, should I still ask the question about the build score on the soyuz project? (the bug report wasn't from me)
[16:20] <cprov> KIAaze: no, the bug on lp-doc is actually the right way to go, thanks for finding it.
[16:22] <jml> soren: np. I was checking my email and in the right timezone :)
[16:22] <jml> soren: also, it's a project I care about :)
[17:08] <bokey> hi whats this error code - Error ID: OOPS-1210C1467)
[17:10] <bokey> why the heck am i getting Timeout error on a particular url
[17:10] <bokey> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4/+archive/ppa
[17:10] <bokey> Error ID: OOPS-1210C1467
[17:11] <bokey> hmm
[17:12] <bokey> uhh? how the heck am i suppose to have username+password?
[17:13] <jpds> You don't.
[17:13] <bokey> exactly
[17:13] <jpds> That's for Launchpad developers to see what the error means.
[17:13] <jpds> bokey: And please be civil.
[17:13] <bokey> jpds: lol i am being civil dude :)
[17:14] <bokey> what did i do to make you feel "not" civil?
[17:14] <bokey> lol
[17:15] <bokey> jpds: so is it going to be resolved soon?? whats going to happen?
[17:15] <bokey> thanks
[17:15] <bokey> ^ that makes me civil?
[17:16] <jpds> bokey: You have to wait for someone on the LP team to come along and look into it.
[17:16] <bokey> jpds: oh thats the standard procedure around here. just want to read about the ppa
[17:17] <bokey> its not urgent but thanks jpds
[17:17] <james_w> bokey: try https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4/+archive/ppa
[17:17] <bokey> james_w: thanks dude
[17:18] <bigjools> that PPA index page sometimes times out, it has a lot of packages in it, just keep re-trying.  We're fixing these timeouts.
[17:19] <bokey> right. thanks bigjools
[17:19] <bokey> laterz folks
[17:37] <KIAaze> I have a question about packaging: Could it be that the automatic dependency searching only searches for packages in the official repositories?
[17:37] <KIAaze> the shlibs thingie
[17:38] <jpds> That looks at what the binaries are linked to in the build environment.
[17:39] <beuno> KIAaze, where else do you want it to search?
[17:39] <KIAaze> in my PPA
[17:39] <beuno> KIAaze, it should use those if they are a newer version
[17:39] <KIAaze> it uses them to build the package
[17:39] <KIAaze> but I just checked the log:
[17:39] <KIAaze> dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: Can't extract name and version from library name `libnglib.so'
[17:40] <KIAaze> I guess I'll just add it manually
[18:00] <savvas> updating the description of a bug on edge now makes a new line?
[18:00] <savvas> I mean it breaks the line every ~100 characters?
[18:01] <matsubara> savvas: really? can you give an example?
[18:01] <savvas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/157374/
[18:02] <savvas> I didn't edit the original lines, I just added lines below, the "UPDATE:" and the rest
[18:03] <savvas> and for some reason the diff I got in the email shows it as if it was edited
[18:04] <BjornT> savvas: that's just how we display the changes in the e-mail. if we didn't do that, you'd have one + line and one - line, with the whole new and old description
[18:04] <BjornT> savvas: oh, i misread you
[18:05] <savvas> I mean I didn't touch the "This is same issue as in bug #282582 (was for intrepid) ..." line :)
[18:13] <BjornT> savvas: i think it's still how we format the e-mail notifications, but it's certainly looks like a bug. i don't have time to look closer at it now.
[18:15] <savvas> ok BjornT thanks :)
[18:41] <AnAnt> Hello, I'm a member of the team "sabily.team", I noticed that when a bug is filed, and we are subscribed to it, the mailing list does not receive the posts to this bug
[18:41] <AnAnt> is it because we haven't set a contact address for the team ?
[18:58] <rockstar> AnAnt, set the contact address for the team to be the mailing list address.
[19:14] <alex-weej> i checked out compiz from launchpad bzr, made some changes
[19:14] <alex-weej> bzr commit -m "mymessage" && bzr push lp:~alex-weej/compiz/fix-bla
[19:15] <alex-weej> it's taking ages uploading quite a lot
[19:15] <alex-weej> isn't it supposed to only upload the "stacked" changes or something?
[19:15] <alex-weej> and if so, how do i make it do that?
[19:16] <rockstar> alex-weej, what version of bzr are you using?
[19:17] <alex-weej> whatever's in jaunty
[19:18] <alex-weej> Using default stacking branch /~compiz/compiz/ubuntu at bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ealex-weej/compiz/
[19:18] <rockstar> alex-weej, hm, it appears to be stacking.
[19:18] <alex-weej> it uploaded something like 206k
[19:18] <alex-weej> i removed about 8 lines
[19:23] <Whoopie> hi, is everything ok with launchpad? uploaded a package to build for jaunty, but I don't get a confirmation and it's not shown on my PPA page.
[19:23] <Whoopie> this is 30 minutes ago.
[19:32] <AnAnt> rockstar: thanks
[19:46] <Whoopie> interesting, why can I upload to hardy, but not jaunty? -> Rejected: Signer has no upload rights at all to this distribution.
[19:48] <maxb> Whoopie: Sounds like you are accidentally attempting to upload to Ubuntu itself, not a PPA.
[19:52] <Whoopie> maxb: you're right. had a typo in my script. ;)
[19:54] <karim> is there a particular way to handle cpu optimisations ?  I have a CFLAG line like this in a make file FLAGS    ?= -Wall -fPIC -O3 -march=pentium -mmmx -fomit-frame-pointer -fexpensive-optimizations -funroll-loops . however this doesn't work on amd64 build, why ???
[19:54] <karim> march isn't backward compatible ?
[20:04] <matsubara> cprov: can you help karim ^?
[20:08] <karim> lauchpad doesn't crosscompile ?
[20:09] <karim> I mean is it possible to create specific cpu packages ?
[20:10] <james_w> -march=pentium sounds odd
[20:11] <james_w> I'm not sure that will work on amd64
[20:11] <james_w> you can look at DEB_BUILD_ARCH in debian/rules to set that conditionally
[20:19] <karim> james_w: it doesnt work
[20:20] <karim> james_w: this is a sub make file, I don't call it directly
[20:20] <james_w> but if you call it with CFLAGS then it will override what is in there
[20:21] <james_w> unless the top-level makefile doesn't use $(MAKE) in which case you should fix it
[20:22] <karim> james_w: I guess I should go with no cpu options
[20:22] <karim> in fact if I choose nothing, it's equivalent for gcc to choose -march=DEB_BUILD_ARCH ?
[20:22] <james_w> well, you can make CPU options work, it just needs a bit of care
[20:23] <james_w> I'm not sure what the default is
[20:23] <karim> ubuntu build in i386 or i686 ?
[20:24] <karim> i486-linux-gnu  tells gcc -v
[20:24] <james_w> yep i486 for now
[21:05] <Saffie_x> Hii xx
[21:09] <mcfletch> I seem to be having some sort of error between the keyboard and chair here.  I can't seem to find the "Register a release" button (described here: https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/SeriesMilestonesReleases) on the series overview page here (https://launchpad.net/vcs2eric/trunk or https://launchpad.net/vcs2eric/1.0.0a1).  Is there some condition that needs to be met to have the register release button show up?
[21:10] <Saffie_x> Soo
[22:02] <matsubara> mcfletch: let me see
[22:03] <matsubara> mcfletch: there's a create release in the right hand side menu.
[22:05] <matsubara> mcfletch: and thanks for bringing that up. I'll update the documentation
[22:38] <ahasenack> I'm testing some stuff in Landscape regarding login email case (lower case, upper case, etc), and ended up having to test that in LP as well as a consequence of us using openid. Then I got this oops: OOPS-1210B2032
[22:57] <matsubara> ahasenack: would you mind to file a bug for and let me know the bug number?
[22:57] <ahasenack> matsubara: done, #366406
[22:59] <thewrath> i am getting an error message on launchpad
[22:59] <matsubara> thewrath: what's the message?
[22:59] <thewrath> trying to get to the source code
[22:59] <thewrath> hold on i am trying to relaod it
[22:59] <thewrath> " Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. "
[23:00] <thewrath> " Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode.
[23:00] <thewrath> Thanks for your patience."
[23:00] <matsubara> ahasenack: thanks. I'll ask someone to take a look
[23:00] <ahasenack> thanks
[23:02] <matsubara> thewrath: that sucks. you need to keep trying until it renders the correct page
[23:02] <matsubara> our codebrowser server has a serious performance problem
[23:03] <magcius> matsubara, I never understood why you didn't have Loggerhead look like the rest of Launchpad.
[23:03] <magcius> s/have/make/
[23:05] <thewrath> working now
[23:05] <matsubara> you're welcome thewrath
[23:05] <matsubara> :-/
[23:06] <matsubara> magcius: well, it's a different codebase so it kinda makes sense to look a bit different, but I don't know the real answer to that question. rockstar probably knows
[23:07] <magcius> matsubara, all you need is custom Genshi/Kid templates, right?
[23:09] <matsubara> magcius: I know nothing about loggerhead internals. I think it can be made to look exactly like any other part of LP but I don't know the reasons why not.
[23:10] <Ursinha> beuno, do you know? ^
[23:10] <rockstar> magcius, loggerhead uses simpletal
[23:11] <magcius> rockstar, oh, duh, I took a quick look at the templates and it looked like Kid, which was based on TAL.
[23:31] <magcius> rockstar, so why don't the templates look like Launchpad?
[23:35] <rockstar> magcius, not sure.  Probably because there are bigger priorities.
[23:41] <gsker> Hi. I went to post a comment for a bug today and found that I could not log in. Some digging revealed that I had used my comcast account and it's now gone.
[23:42] <gsker> Is there any way to recover that association for my persona to my launchpad history?  I re-registered with my gmail account.
[23:45] <Ursinha> gsker, the older account is gone? how come?
[23:45] <gsker> I switched to qwest.
[23:45] <Ursinha> you can ask for the new account to be merged with the old one - if that still exists :)
[23:45] <gsker> Hmm. The old e-mail account is gone.
[23:46] <gsker> Oh wait
[23:46]  * gsker tries something.
[23:47] <gsker> gee.  Didn't think to actually type the email address and password.
[23:48] <gsker> Who do i ask for the merge.  Now that I have logged in.
[23:49] <wgrant> gsker: Go to https://launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge.
[23:49] <gsker> never mind.  It's right there on the launchpadhelp page.
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[23:49] <Ursinha> :)
[23:58] <Peng_> Sooo, why isn't edge showing the description and whiteboard on branch pages?
[23:58] <wgrant> Peng_: They were removed.
[23:59] <wgrant> Peng_: bug #361197
[23:59] <Peng_> Eh.