[00:19] ♥ [00:20] Myrtti!!!! [00:20] mmmm bed [00:20] Myrtti: was nice to meet you [00:20] feetsies hurt [00:21] I know the feeling [00:21] Seeker`: likewise :-) [00:21] I should really move from sofa to bed, but that involves moving [00:23] Myrtti: did you stay long after I left? [00:24] Something deal with HappyHater in #u. [00:24] Seeker`: not really, chatted a bit with popey, Daviey and Nafallo and left [00:25] dsample had an ickle chat with jono to my great surprise [00:25] fair enough [00:25] I didn't manage to speak to jono [00:26] Me neither. [00:27] jpds: uhm, you were there? [00:27] X-| [00:27] Right... [00:28] Myrtti: I was with Nafallo towards the time you left. :-) [00:28] bollocks [00:28] I was kind of wondering if you knew who I was. ;0 [00:28] ;)* [00:29] why don't I notice these things? [00:29] I think we need to get people to circulate a list of faces / irc nicknames [00:30] jpds: I usually tend to go by the technique 'if they know me, they'll come and talk' [00:30] otherwise its hopeless [00:31] It worked out the other way for me at UDS... mostly. [00:31] Pici: The only reason I knew you were you was cos I saw your IRC ;) [00:32] Myrtti: you looked kinda scared and confused when I came over to you [00:35] I wear pink and am female. if people don't realise to come and talk when they recognise me, I camn't be blamed ;-) [00:36] Seeker`: might have, I confess nothing [00:37] :P [00:38] thehe, someone is "playing" with their NDS [00:38] NDS? [00:39] nintendo DS? [00:39] nintendo ds lite, yeah [00:39] terribly cute :-> [00:41] hmm by chance can a op maybe put in the topic for #ubuntu that the servers are being hammered right now? or is there a switch for ubottu for it? [00:41] :) [00:43] i iz sleepy, good night [00:43] nn [00:43] have fnu tomorrow being a tourist [00:44] meh. stop talking about me damit [00:44] wow. [00:44] got three passwords righly spelled first try, but can't spell 'damnit' damnit [00:45] :D [00:45] did anyone bump in to ikonia [00:45] last I heard he was near croyden travelling 10mph towards london [00:55] Can someone tell me who an admin is for #ubuntu-server or give me a hand in there. I got someone swearing and refusing to move his chatter to -offtopic === foxbuntu is now known as orudie_thefaggot === orudie_thefaggot is now known as foxbuntu [03:44] hi fellas, im chanop for #ubuntu-eg, just wanted to let you know that apparently there was word someone wanted to take over due to my inactivity, I just wanted to apologize for my absence, I was in the process of marriage and a new job meaning i now live between Egypt and the UAE. Just to let you know Im still around and will continue support as always in a few days time. [06:11] Flannel: yes, through tomorrow morning. [06:11] Whereabouts? and for what? [06:23] In #kubuntu-devel, Daskreech said: !athing is an example factoid [06:35] Hi Daskreech, how can we help you? [06:35] Flannel: In a moment just setting it up now [06:36] In #kubuntu-devel, kb9vqf said: !kde3 is Kubuntu 8.04 ships with KDE3 and full support. Jaunty does not include KDE3 but a remix install CD can be obtained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty . This is not officially supported. Support, instructions and ways to contribute can be found on the wiki page [06:37] There we go :) [06:37] I have changed the factoid for kde3 and was wondering what the status is [06:38] !kde3 [06:38] Sorry, I don't know anything about kde3 [06:38] Was there no factoid originally? [06:38] !kde3-#kubuntu [06:38] No, intrepid does not include KDE 3, only KDE 4. Please continue to use Hardy if KDE 3 is deisred. [06:38] For some reason it's only allowed in the kubuntu chan [06:38] not allowed, just set up that way. Might be prudent to make that a full factoid. [06:38] In #kubuntu-devel, kb9vqf said: !kde3-#kubuntu is Kubuntu 8.04 ships with KDE3 and full support. Jaunty does not include KDE3 but a remix install CD can be obtained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty . This is not officially supported. Support, instructions and ways to contribute can be found on the wiki page [06:39] Yeah, I'm not sure why it has its own thing. [06:40] By full factoid you mean generally available ? [06:41] !kde3 [06:41] Kubuntu 8.04 ships with KDE3 and full support. Jaunty does not include KDE3 but a remix install CD can be obtained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty . This is not officially supported. Support, instructions and ways to contribute can be found on the wiki page [06:41] It was an awkward way to put it, but yeah, that's what I meant. [06:43] Thanks for the update! [06:43] No problem. Thank you. [06:43] Flannel: Question on the bot factoids [06:43] are they flagged in anyway for updates? [06:44] Nope [06:44] would that make sense? There are quite a few kinda crusty factoids hanging around [06:44] Thats true. It happens. We end up doing spring cleaning sorts of things every so often. [06:45] and it would be nice that at least in the first week of a release factoids are updated to be current [06:46] I know obviously not everyone of them can be reviewed but perhaps time critical ones can be flagged so the the week prior to a release they can be looked over [07:08] ... [07:08] hi zzver, how can we help you? [07:08] Sry i speak only rus :x [07:08] a... How i can open file manager in icewm? [07:10] How to open the file manager in icewm? [07:53] gmoin [07:55] Good morning. [07:56] mrngngnnh? [08:19] why did i get blocked on offtopic? [08:22] after a few warnings and you don't know? [08:22] jackjohnson: for bein deliberately annoying and ignoring any friendly advice [08:23] @login [08:23] The operation succeeded. [08:23] @btlogin [08:24] jackjohnson: anything else we can help you with? [08:26] i was havin a poop out [08:27] what does @login do [08:27] nothing if you do it [08:28] topyli: you were actually banning saying : enough and this is rude [08:28] it is? [08:29] sorry if you find it rude. i, as well as others gave you several warnings during a period of an hour or so. eventually, you had to be removed [08:33] jackjohnson: so is there anything else we can do for you? unfortunately you cannot idle on this channel [08:36] jackjohnson: please part the channel if there's nothing else. come back if you have further requirements in the future [08:40] Daskreech: anything else you need from us? [08:45] Nope [08:53] !idle | Daskreech [08:53] Daskreech: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [10:04] BOLLOCKS! [10:05] and thats my opinion today [10:06] hawt [10:12] evilGary: huh? [10:15] sorry, was distracted with the bollocks word :p [10:27] evilGary: hehe [10:50] am i getting.. 'redirected' here because i accidentally swore or something in ubuntu-offtopic [10:56] screamsayonara, you were warned about swearing and continued to do so, please in the future keep the #ubuntu channels family-friendly (think G-rated) [10:56] im a linguist, [10:57] sigh [10:57] its like the whole "the world is flat" thing [10:58] !ohmy [10:58] Please remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others. [10:58] screamsayonara, is there something else we can help you with today? [10:59] if samuel l jackson is allowed to say motherfucker, then i am allowed to say shit. thanks for your !command explanations *tips hat* [11:07] matt@d122-104-161-81.rdl18.qld.optusnet.com.au wondered if that was thefeds, but quit after being asked to go to ##windows [12:14] In ubottu, Fz said: kk is yes [13:32] gnomefreak: nothing much going on in +1 anymore time to close it yet ? [13:32] faileas called the ops in #ubuntu () [13:32] -cn dude pasting text [13:33] ikonia: you can,i havent had time to check KK toolchain yet [13:33] gnomefreak: it can be left open, I'm only asking [13:33] gnomefreak: no pressure [13:34] groovyorange in -ot [13:34] as eatpotato [13:35] EatPotato: hi, thanks for joinining [13:35] EatPotato: have we spoken before ? [13:35] It nice when someone want me [13:35] yes [13:35] It's even the same PC [13:35] EatPotato: what was your nickname when we spoke ? [13:36] kholerabbi1: how can we help ? [13:36] "EatPotato" [13:36] you can't. I am being a tourist :D [13:36] EatPotato: one moment [13:36] kholerabbi1: this channel is for operator/irc issues only, [13:36] kholerabbi1: sorry, no tourists [13:36] OK [13:37] EatPotato: in that case - same question as before really, just to confirm you are not "grow-as-apples" or "groovey orange" users [13:38] Vegetarian though... [13:38] EatPotato: thats not what I asked [13:38] Not [13:38] EatPotato: and you're %100 sure you've never used those nicknames [13:39] No [13:39] EatPotato: ok, thanks for popping in [13:40] yeah, I should disconnect from the channel then [13:40] EatPotato: if you could part the channel (unless there is something you need from us) and go about your IRC day, that would be great [13:40] thanks for coming in [13:40] bazhang: pateince....... [13:41] ikonia, not sure what you mean; he is lying and ban-evading, of course every time you ask that he will deny. [13:41] bazhang: no way of taking action at the moment, just updating logs.....patience [13:42] still the same creepy evasive answers, and no resolution. [13:42] +o offtopic [13:42] Factoid 'o offtopic' not found [13:42] hehe [13:42] can't do anything at the moment but store info for when it's needed [13:44] bazhang: plus he follows the same patern as oranges - which is when kicked join #philosophy and troll/random babble [13:44] ikonia, yep [13:44] fujisan is also in there with him [13:45] he should just /nick leper and be done with it [13:45] ha ha ha [14:00] In ubottu, pepperjack said: blueray is possible in Ubuntu. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD [14:03] hey guys i have a ban on me on ubuntu-motu channel i had a ban on kubuntu-devel channel which was lifted yesterday after jaunty release. can i get unbanned in the motu channel [14:04] eagles0513875: from my point of view - I wouldn't recommend lifting the ban on #ubuntu-motu or any other channels as I find your input more trouble and disruptive then useful, and you refuse to listen to advice and follow it [14:04] that is my personal comment on your ban [14:05] ikonia: im behaving in devel and i am currently trying to work on verifying some bugs at the moment. im being super quiet in the devel channel [14:05] eagles0513875: you've been in for less than a few hours, so thats not really a good example [14:05] eagles0513875: and your behaviour / input in the other ubuntu channels are also the guide I'm using to make my comments [14:05] in kubuntu im super quiet unless there is something i can help someone with [14:06] i spend most of my time in kubuntu-offtopic [14:06] eagles0513875: I've spoke to you a few times about #kubuntu and your comments in there [14:06] (and thats just one example) [14:08] would i be better off talking to the person who originally banned me [14:08] yes, hobbsee is not around [14:08] I'm making my comments in the channel so that it's logged and noted by hobbsee [14:09] ok [14:09] well i shall vacate the channel and return tomorrow [14:14] @btlogin [14:17] @btlogout [14:18] I didn't know BT served .au. [14:19] ha [14:20] hey Hobbsee [14:20] may i talk to you for a min [14:21] eagles0513875: yes, here. [14:21] well you remember i had a ban till jaunty release [14:22] that has been removed on kubuntu-devel and ubuntu-bugs but it hasnt been removed off motu [14:22] no, you had a ban till the intrepid release. You screwed up before the release, however, and got a permaban. [14:22] y [14:22] eagles0513875: it's not been removed from ubuntu-bugs [14:22] *why [14:22] i was in there yesterday [14:22] unless it got put back on [14:22] eagles0513875: then you where ban dodging [14:22] i was on this nick [14:23] i would like to join the bug squad but i cant due to the ban [14:23] eagles0513875: then current nickname would not let you get in [14:24] well then i dunno what happened last night [14:24] however you where changing nick names a lot yesterday in other channels [14:24] 20:17 -!- eagles0513875 is now known as eagles051387 [14:24] 20:18 -!- eagles051387 is now known as eagles0513875_ [14:24] 20:19 -!- eagles0513875_ is now known as eagles0513875 [14:24] 20:31 -!- eagles0513875 is now known as eagles051387 [14:24] 20:32 -!- eagles051387 is now known as eagles0513875 [14:24] ikonia: i was doing that so i can setup a cloak [14:24] and linking and all that [14:24] yes, maybe that was the issue though, you changed nicks to one that was to get around the ban [14:25] if i did i didnt do that on purpose [14:25] ok [14:25] i would love to join the bug squad but i cant due to the ban :( [14:25] eagles0513875: why were you thinking it was OK to join that channel, if you knew you were banned? [14:25] Hobbsee: which channel ubuntu-bugs [14:25] yes [14:25] i thought the ban was until jaunty release [14:26] no, it was originally until the intrepid release, like i said earlier. [14:26] and i was as ikonia showed changing nicks so i can link and group nicks to get a cloak [14:26] Then you ban evaded, and showed absolutely no sign of improvement. Thus, it became a permanent ban. [14:26] that was an accident that i was probably on another nick [14:26] Now, is there anything else we can help you with? [14:26] well i would love to get on the bug squad but cant :( so no chance at a ban reversal [14:27] no. [14:27] not until you show you can behave in userland channels. If you've had no bans in userland channels between now and the karmic release, then we'll look at removing the bans in -motu, -devel, and -bugs, OK? [14:27] Hobbsee: well im in devel right now [14:27] on this nick [14:28] eagles0513875: #ubuntu-devel. [14:28] kubuntu-devel [14:28] was the ban on ubuntu-devel or kubuntu-devel [14:28] yes, i've seen you there, asking support questions, and not adding to anything. One can only wonder how long it will be before you get booted out of there too. [14:28] the ban was in #ubuntu-devel. We've covered this. [14:28] ok im just making sure i dont wanna be ban evading again [14:29] Hobbsee: i only said one thing and have been quiet the rest of the time [14:29] watching and learning [14:29] * eagles0513875 will leave channel before he gets into more trouble [14:29] * eagles0513875 leave [14:29] for the record, you're not welcome in #ubuntu-motu, #ubuntu-devel, #ubuntu-bugs, and possibly a few others... [14:31] * Hobbsee updates the bantracker [15:07] @bansearch fujisan [15:07] Match: Fujisan!*@* by ikonia in #ubuntu on Apr 08 2009 07:27:52 (ID: 12208) [15:12] @bansearch fujisan [15:12] Match: fujisan!*@*.ftth.xms.internl.net by tsimpson in #kubuntu on Apr 08 2009 01:09:15 (ID: 12205) [15:12] Match: Fujisan!*@* by ikonia in #ubuntu on Apr 08 2009 07:27:52 (ID: 12208) [15:12] Match: fujisan!*@*.ftth.xms.internl.net by tsimpson in #kubuntu-offtopic on Apr 12 2009 19:55:15 (ID: 12360) [15:12] I knew I had some on them [15:19] did he actually play up? [15:23] no, I was just curious to how banned he was, and if he was dodging a kline [15:25] he's been acting very different the past week [15:26] by very different i mean a stark one almost like 'spent a night in a gaol cell with a big black dude named bubba' [15:27] there is still a ban on his unaffiliated cloak for u-ot i believe [15:28] but he hasnt had that for donkeys [16:38] In ubottu, LjL said: !no dontzap is To re-enable the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace combination that restarts your X server, you can install the "dontzap" package and use the command « sudo dontzap --disable ». The key combination AltGr+SysRq+K can also be used to achieve a similar effect. [18:47] LjL called the ops in #ubuntu (konza) [18:49] hmmm, my client seems to think hes not banned [18:50] konus_ is banned by *!*@ns1.noxis.org [18:51] there we go [18:51] I am PMing him [19:01] excuse me why was 255.255.255.0 10.1.10.1 blcoked [19:01] blocked [19:01] ? [19:11] jackjohnson, you wished to speak with topyli ? [19:11] jackjohnson, not sure if he is around right now. [19:11] topyli, sorry i had a little prob in offtopic, but make the kickban temporary (5m) [19:11] i am here. thanks for hilighting bazhang [19:12] topyli, aha, okey [19:12] cor [19:12] dbo is in the channel [19:13] jackjohnson: so how can i help? [19:19] ok +1 can be closed and people kicked, i will worry about toolchain later im way too busy for the next week or so [19:20] jackjohnson: did you come here to talk about your ban on -offtopic? [19:20] otherwise, i don't think we have much business together [19:20] idling on this channel is not allowed [19:22] hi [19:23] hi! [19:23] !idle | jackjohnson [19:23] jackjohnson: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [19:23] hi Seeker` [19:26] ikonia: ping [19:26] hi jpds [19:32] sorry, got disconnected. it was a terrible 20 seconds! [19:33] jackjohnson: please part the channel if you have no inquiry [19:37] * gnomefreak sits back and watches with a drink in hand [19:38] jackjohnson: do you have to be removed from here *again*? [19:52] for the record, i'm no longer dealing with jackjohnson [19:52] it takes two coins to click as they say [19:55] * [Guest95367] (n=ahmed@41.232.44.200): Ahmed seems like he was ban-dodging again instead of coming here to have ban lifted [19:55] jackjohnson, please part the channel [19:55] * Myrtti has aching tummy and feet :-< [19:56] Myrtti: whats wrog? [19:57] I guess feet is too much walking [20:01] too big a city :( [20:03] @mark jackjohnson banned from -ot, then turned into a professional idler on -ops. never asks for any operator service. new trolling technique is to annoy ops by presence [20:03] The operation succeeded. [20:06] Seeker`: i've got no idea, either too little to drink or badly cooked food [20:07] Bleh. Work is busy today. [20:08] Myrtti: :/ [20:08] lack of drinks does sound like something that could be responsible for all sorts of ailments [20:08] Myrtti: I'm assuming dinner last night tasted ok? [20:09] yup, my prime suspects are tomatoes at breakfast or the ice cream [20:09] :( [20:10] ice cream for breakfast?! :P [20:10] Damned English cooks! [20:10] and also have blisters whih was expected [20:10] Whats weird is they usually boil the crap out of everything actually. [20:11] Seeker`: lunch actually ;-) [20:11] genii: oi! [20:11] Myrtti: :) [20:11] Myrtti: what touristy stuff did you get up to? [20:12] hyde park, science museum, covent garden, kleopatra obelisk [20:13] cool [20:15] I worked :( [20:16] I'm enjoying the fact I didn't and actually got off me arse and walked and moved (painful reminders acquired!) [20:17] :D [20:23] ScottK called the ops in #ubuntu-devel () [20:25] Damn. [20:45] Hey everyone. !o4o and its application to LGBT issues came up on https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-lgbt/ recently, and I figured it'd be good to give you guys a heads up, so you know what's going on if you start getting asked questions about it all of a sudden. Also, if anyone has a second, can you check that my interpretation of things in https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-lgbt/msg00019.html is correct? Thanks :) [20:53] eugh [20:55] rww: hehe, I see why there have been comments, but I feel the section which contains "sexuality" has been misinterpreated here, It's really to stop people saying things like "oi you homo" or "my mate fred is so gay/ghey" etc [20:56] evilGary: then that should probably be clarified, because people seem to think it means serious discussions of sexuality :) [20:58] I take it we are talking about this regarding a -offtopic or loco channel, not the main support channel? [20:58] as one of the staff on freenode, I can confirm that homophobic behaviour is offtopic on this network, and o4o is not meant like this, however for serious discussions, i'd (with my staff hat on here) suggest it'd be wise to move to a channel such as #gaygeeks [21:00] i'd have comments, but commenting with me n800 is somewhat painful [21:00] hehe [21:01] Myrtti: are they similar to mine or different? :p [21:01] also, get a n810, they have a keyboard :-) [21:01] similar to both yours and rww's [21:02] evilGary: I got this especially because it doesn't [21:02] you keyboardphobic you O_O [21:03] makes switching between languages easier. n810's finnish keyboard isn't eveen with a proper layout [21:03] anyhoo [21:04] * Seeker` prods evilGary to look at PM [21:04] evilGary, Myrtti: The person I was replying to just replied back saying that now that he /read/ the guidelines, they seem a whole lot less controversial than he was lead to think (funny how that works). [21:05] as well as reading them, it's also the reasoning behind why they were written like that. [21:05] in general, the guidelines are mostly guidelines, and how theey are applied is dependant on the op [21:05] there is no homophobia implied or meant, and to read some in is not what they were written for (if that made any sence) [21:06] sexuality is ok, as long as the discussion is in general suitable for your mother and 10y o niece to read [21:07] Myrtti: !o4o requires rewriting then? [21:07] gender is ok, as long as there is no pix or it didn't happen-demands [21:07] both are on o4o.. [21:07] BUT [21:07] I couldn't care less who joins what channel, just that what they talk about is suitable for that channel [21:07] Pricey: I don't believe o4o needs rewriting [21:08] me neither [21:08] "Don't discuss offtopic things" should suffice [21:08] sadly, peopple need clarification as to what exactly that means [21:08] o4o currently states that gender and sexuality are o4o? [21:08] Pricey: yes [21:09] Pricey: Noone should give a **** what gender or sexuality someone is on any of the channels [21:09] * Myrtti curses he slow typing [21:09] right [21:10] 20:06:42 <+Myrtti> sexuality is ok, as long as the discussion is in general suitable for your mother and 10y o niece to read [21:10] 20:07:19 <+Myrtti> gender is ok, as long as there is no pix or it didn't happen-demands [21:10] a reasonable discussion of it is probably acceptable; however from what I've seen from -offtopic, no discussion can stay sensible for longer than about the time it takes the light to travel 2 inches [21:11] which is why the general consensus is to nip it in the bud before its an issue? [21:11] yup [21:11] Pricey: I believe that is a sensible policy [21:11] right i think i understand what you were on about now sorry [21:11] and thats why I suggested moving subjects such as this to a more apt place [21:12] but if gender was banned altogether, I'd have to be quiet about 1/3 of the time [21:12] it's not that they are not allowed to be talked about, it's more about generally keeping the channel sane [21:12] and if sexuality was banned, i'd be doomed [21:13] as far as sexuality goes, mine is none of you're business, but if someone wants to discuss it 'in depth' (pun intended) i'm sure theres more suitable places than -ot [21:14] s/discuss it/discuss theirs/ [21:14] I think I'm being discriminated against! I'm diabetic and o4o says no discussion of drugs [21:15] * evilGary facepalms [21:15] kkekeke [21:15] If a discussion springs up about LGBT rights in #ubuntu-offtopic, is proceeding reasonably and is family-friendly, and is then interrupted by a couple of people making anti-LGBT comments, then what? The discussion has to end because a couple of people can't act maturely? [21:16] depends what comments, and if I see them [21:16] * evilGary hides [21:16] rww: I think that the point is, -offtopic as a channel is so incredibly immature, it will descend ito anti-LGBT comments eventually [21:16] idiots are kicked, and the discussion is directed to more suitable channels [21:16] like Gaygeeks or smth [21:17] rww: and then you have to clear up the mess and calm the children^Wusers down again [21:17] again, case by case, tthat's what i'd do [21:17] /1/1 [21:18] i have a simple anti-asshat policy [21:18] topyli++ [21:18] no logic behind it, just remove asshats [21:18] I think a hybrid of Myrtti and topyli's methods could work [21:19] * Myrtti chuckles [21:19] we should merge them [21:19] what? Myrtti and topyli ? [21:19] yeah [21:19] hehe [21:19] oh noea [21:19] topyrtti [21:19] noes [21:19] Myli? [21:19] hehe [21:20] Myrtli [21:20] Myrtti is a great drinking buddy but i don't think we're that far yet [21:20] typortti [21:21] rww: have we gone any way to confirm the meaning of o4o? [21:21] I suspect your missus and my dsample would not agree either [21:21] evilGary: Yes, this discussion was helpful, thanks :) [21:21] * Seeker` waves to dsample [21:22] Seeker`: waves rceived, returned [21:23] :) [21:23] believe it or not, i'm watching conan the barbarian. it's on tv .) [21:23] it's wonderful! [21:23] his was a tale of sorrow [21:23] is there some new meaning to "wonderful" I hvaen't heard of yet? [21:24] or are you just missing a [21:24] Anyways, I'll leave you to your TV discussion before someone throws !idle at me. Thanks for the discussion :) [21:24] seeya [21:24] np was fun [21:29]