[00:15] Oh I saw the website update. The bluish Xubuntu 9.04 looks n1ce! :-) [00:15] :-)))) [00:15] Glad to hear it. :-) [00:16] The idea with the sun is great. [00:16] (those rays) [00:16] Let knome know that [00:16] k ;) [00:17] i tried the live cd, its great [00:17] Glad you like it. [00:17] Well I/we cannot cause we're tied to 8.04. But I'm gonna give it a try in a few weeks on my private system. [00:36] Why can't i get a free Xubuntu CD with ShipIT service? [00:39] Xubuntu___rules, Xubuntu isn't available via shipit [00:39] Why? And, when will it, if you know? [00:42] I mean, it would be really nice if we had Xubuntu CD's [01:21] is there a torrent for new release? [01:22] Any mirror has torrent files: http://xubuntu.org/get [01:22] thank you [01:23] no problem [01:24] any better to do reinstall over upgrade? [02:00] why xubuntu 9.04 dont have guest possibility like ubuntu? [02:00] Kangarooo, it does [02:02] well in ubntu 9.04 i can click username and then from choose panel i can choose shutdown or restart and so on and also Guest.. i have xubuntu 9.04 and nope there is no guest.. [02:05] Kangarooo, You just need to create a launcher to run /usr/share/gdm/guest-session/guest-session-launch [02:05] cody-somerville: in ubuntu i have option to load guest without logging out - its preinstalled.. guest cant get in if normal user is not logged... [02:06] ok for me if ill need it.. just thinking about just users.. :) [02:07] maybe in xfce it needs to impemented? i dont know does gnome has that option made? [02:16] can someone help me configure my display drivers? [02:23] !x [02:23] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [02:25] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/gdm-guest-login how to add corectly this as wishlist to xubuntu project and to witch one? [02:27] do u know how to fix display problems [02:27] ? [02:30] !report [02:30] Sorry, I don't know anything about report [02:31] ok so is it problem with card? [02:32] psychic: do u have launchpad or ubuntu forum login registered? [02:33] i think 4 video card problems try posting like this one http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7053863 [02:38] i dont know [02:38] kangarooo i know other people had the same prob on the same computer [02:39] not mine just the same model [02:39] i fixed i once and then i made the mistakeof using restore [02:39] what restore? [02:39] so it reverted to 800x600 instead of 1024x768 [02:40] press esc at start up [02:40] and i used the restore to last good config [02:40] i did that to try to fix some other problems [02:41] aah.. ok i think there must be file with saved settings i just dnot know where.. we can ask others.. who knows where is x settings storred? so the old x conf file can be found? [02:42] yea that would benice [02:42] is it in etc/x11/? [02:42] everytime settings are changed config file makes new copy.. or something like that [02:42] yea i have a few versions of the configs i notcice [02:42] maybe [02:43] should i just try deleting te new one? [02:43] i know that config has system whitch makes copys.. [02:43] i though it might [02:43] its very usefull for experts but not 4 me :) [02:43] well not until im expert also :) [02:45] i dont see.. anyone can help with this problem? [02:49] true [02:49] can i put a screen shot in pastebin [02:50] ? [02:50] imagebin [02:51] twitpic.. what more temp pic pastebin webs are ther? [02:52] Kangarooo: imagebin.org [02:54] yes good thx :) maybe ubuntu bug reports need new image bin? and make together with capture image programm - copy to pastebin [02:54] oops copy to imagebin.. auto upload auto open link [02:54] ok... silly question... my update manager does not show an update for 9.04? [02:54] kangarooo can i send u a screen shot? maybe u could tell me if i'm looking at the right files for x [02:54] or auto upload auto copy link... [02:54] running ibex [02:55] put in imagebin- many ppl will see and first with answer will help [02:55] give link [02:58] how else can i upgrade if update manager does not show an update option? [03:02] Is there a difference between installing ubuntu then and installing xfce-desktop, and installing xubuntu? [03:02] for some reason it wont work [03:03] i uploaded it [03:03] but it isnt showing up [03:03] acalbaza: what verison u have? [03:03] i have been doing it for 7 minuts now [03:04] psychic: why in launchpad i cant put that bug also affects distribution xubuntu? Also affects distribution/package [03:04] i dont know [03:04] thats ur post? [03:04] maybe some one else knows :) [03:04] * ball can't figure out Launchpad [03:05] I got my photo on there and that's about the limit of my Launchpad prowess [03:05] i couldn't figure out outlook lol [03:05] microsoft... [03:05] * Kangarooo is try to digga and figga aut Lauchpad [03:05] psychic: that reminds me, I need to install a VNC viewer [03:06] no problem [03:06] hey ball u know anything about display problems [03:06] ? [03:06] 4 2monts already :) and also to figa launchpad way of use for ubuntus [03:06] i am normaly in ubuntu channel [03:06] psychic: what's the issue? [03:06] then i relised i had xubuntu [03:06] there over 1000 people in there at any time [03:06] i am only getting as much as 800x600 [03:06] psychic: the regional channels are a nice way to avoid that. [03:07] i need higher res [03:07] psychic: what is your display adaptor? [03:07] mm [03:07] maybe there is no way to report that distribution has problem with xubuntu couse they totaly similar only window sistem changes? [03:07] it might be a trident cyberblade does that sound right? [03:07] psychic: I don't know. What does lspci say? [03:08] ball http://pastebin.com/m48e69565 [03:10] psychic: it may be worth pasting just line 16 into #xorg along with a "how do I choose the right driver for this?" [03:10] ...or check out their Web site. [03:11] ok [03:11] well last time i had this prob i had to comment out a line now i cant remember how [03:12] ball the prob is i did the restore to last good config and that messed it up do u know how to go back to the previous configuration? [03:13] psychic: I've never had that problem in Xubuntu, so I don't know, sorry. [03:15] my experience says best is to put all max info about problem in launchpad and then check it next day.. and answer al questions.. and put what could it be affecting.. so ubuntu xubuntu xorg xfce [03:15] psychic: was my forum link usefull with commands? [03:17] is it normal for the auto upgrade to go slow on day of release because usually it is going ~200kB/s but today i'm getting ~50kB/s? [03:17] no i didnt read much what is it again? [03:17] u know if u go into #ubuntu u might be able to get that answer [03:17] their normaly quite assistful [03:18] well there are all commands 4 video info getting [03:18] okay i'll re-ask there [03:18] whats the link? [03:18] psychic: i think this problem is completley affecting ubuntu also [03:18] well amoung other things [03:19] it would require a more intelligent and effortful society to accomplish a ubuntu based world lol [03:19] kangarooo u agree? [03:24] xubuntu is just a flavor of ubuntu so all problems of xubuntu affects ubuntu. i think 4 video card problems try posting like this one http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7053863 or like this hmmm i cant find other link but it had all commands i used and the more info the bug is hotter and it helped getting bug done with next update :) [03:25] well i have one problem not done.. i recomment contact also ubuntu loco team in ur lcation.. i have one in latvia but ill now lead it since it has no movement and false leader- just a linux person but noone 4 ubuntu [03:26] kangarooo what do u think about this one, what would be the best flavor for a toshiba satallite laptop 2.66ghz with 512mgs of ram onboard grphics bring the ram down to 470.. [03:27] brb, need yoghurt [03:27] enjoy [03:28] put max possible ram and xubuntu if u need 4 fast .. if u dont need network neighborhood and dont have other partitions take xubuntu.. if network neighorhood needed - sebd me info how to get it.. couse i couldnt or take ubuntu [03:29] i have both only use xubuntu with the ubuntu intrepid desktop [03:29] take latest 9.04 version xubuntu and install with friends while catching sun and also make them see live [03:30] *i mean try on they comps live cd :) [03:32] i have also both but im waiting when xubuntu will be easy network neighrhooding.. also using dropbox- good thing when xubuntu will have good NN ill just pop all config to it and on clean install get all back :) and with good NN ill baackup to closest PC :) [03:52] hi [03:52] hello kromar [03:52] i installed windows and wanted to ask whats the easiest way to get the grub loader working again [03:54] ouch. [03:54] I don't know. [03:54] ...perhaps it's possible from the livecd though [03:54] brb [03:56] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows [03:57] http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/ [03:57] i !google windows ubuntu grub [03:58] thnaks for the links:D gona read and try it [04:01] kromar: thats really no pronblem.. done that 2 times :) [04:04] ya looks really simple [04:06] arr i cant start it from the cd:/ [04:07] or is it possible to start the 32 bit version to make it for the 64 bit version? [04:10] why not? kromar [04:12] dont know:D [04:12] shut down pc put cd and start [04:13] and put the correct 64 or 32 version [04:14] is there a way to get the correct hd, partition for it? im not exactly sure where i put it, its on the first harddrive that one im sure but im not sure which partition.. [04:14] its sda1 in the partition editor [04:14] would that be hd0,0? [04:16] eeem.. well if u have ubuntu live then start in live mode and check in some system or partition manager.. [04:16] and besides- u can change it many times to nr 1 or n2.. [04:17] the partition manager only says /dev/sda1 [04:18] well the a is for the first harddisk and 1 for the first partition if im not wrong... so that would be hd0,0 right? [04:21] sweet worked perfect:D [04:21] i messed up dpkg :( [04:21] only the name of the windofs is still an old one [04:22] i dont know.. if i remember orectly then i have in bios second HDA to start and from there grub load hda0,4 [04:23] wat do i do: [04:23] E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. [04:23] E: _cache->open() failed, please report. [04:24] u installed updates? [04:24] i think it continues where it stopped when next time started.. [04:25] i was installing apps and my laptop completely and utterly froze [04:25] it happened with kubuntu, too [04:25] (befor i changed to xubuntu) [04:28] hello? [04:29] is anyone there? [04:31] * Kasm279 leaves [04:31] !dpkg [04:31] dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. [05:04] Hi@ [05:05] did anyone notice that the xubuntu alternate CD doesn't work without an Internet connection? [05:05] Xubuntu 9.04 [05:05] It tries to download the release file and then aborts. [06:40] how do i check the version of my xubuntu? [06:41] uname -a [06:42] uname only shows linux version. i want xubuntu version [06:42] uname -m [06:43] cody-somerville: are you around? [06:43] uname -r [06:44] uname -v [06:57] Mood, check what you have in /etc/apt/sources.list [06:58] tavasti: i found the solution: either lsb_release -a, or cat /etc/issue should do the trick ;-) [07:02] in general, /etc/issue can be anything (admin may change it), but that lsb_*, that's interesting, thanks [07:04] ooh- i don't like the ugly lines separating the apps in the panel [07:04] in xfce 4.6 [07:16] hmm... xubuntu 8.10->9.04 upgrade re-installs packages i removed... interesting... === freego is now known as Guest32352 [09:15] just upgraded to jaunty [09:23] is it possible to edit system sound theme? [09:38] have the church services started yet ? [10:08] sound stopped working [10:12] damn alsa [10:13] what about it? [10:15] it just crashes every day and all I can do about it is restarting my comp [10:15] weird [10:15] what version of xubuntu? [10:16] jaunty [10:16] it also happened in interpid [10:16] no probs on intrepid for me [10:17] i just ran jaunty on live cd and there was an option to run oss [10:17] Hetor: check the logs in /var/log, the ones with .0 are from the previous boot [10:18] ok [10:19] hi TheSheep [10:19] any1 know why xubuntu doesnt come w/ OOo3? [10:21] TheSheep: which one should I check? [10:21] R1cochet, because open office is huge and heavy, but offcourse you can install it with add/remove software [10:25] Hetor: messages for start [10:43] is do-release-upgrade ok method for upgrading xubuntu, or should I use some GUI tool for it? [10:45] release notes recommends GUI [12:46] problem mounting ntfs usb drive after upgrade to 9.04 ----- [12:47] !bugs | basajaun [12:47] basajaun: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [12:53] I am looking for a solution [12:54] basajaun: there might be a solution documented on teh bugtracker [12:54] if someone already reported a similar bug [12:56] Excuse me I am pretty new to xubuntu 9.04 I just changed over from ubuntu today... Works fine. But my Wifi PCMCIA Card with Atheros Chipset is not found. The documentation for ubuntu said it should work out of the box... Somebody know where i should look to find a solution? [12:57] M0m023: system->hardware drivers doesn't list it? [12:57] btw it stoped working on ubuntu 9.04 rc [12:57] M0m023: how about lspci? [12:58] lspci shows this: Atheros Communications Inc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) [12:58] but iwconfig nothing [12:58] M0m023: anything related to it in dmesg | less ? [12:59] M0m023: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1134165 [13:00] thanks to all i will try the thread [13:00] dmsg | less shows nothing [13:03] dmesg [13:04] sorry to fast [13:06] dmesg | less shows me : "[ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: 000000003ff7e000 - 000000003ff80000 (ACPI NVS) :" in the last line and i dont get back to the command line nor can i close it via alt+q or ctr+c [13:08] you can scroll with arrows and pgup/pgdown, and quit with q [13:09] what shall i look for? [13:09] something about loading kernel module for your card, and any errors with ti [13:09] it [13:09] will do thanks! [13:11] Hey, guys, guess what? [13:12] you upgraded and somethng broke [13:12] Lol, no. [13:12] I've so far only uninstalled 8.10. [13:12] But, instead of Jaunty breaking on me, I'm gonna upgrade to Ubuntu! [13:13] hardware upgrade along the way? [13:13] Well, ok, so it may break. [13:13] No. [13:13] That's the cool thing, my five year old computer can run it, it disables Compiz on me, but who cares? I wanted Gnome. [13:13] good for you [13:13] [ 4510.179279] ath_hal: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel. [13:13] [ 4510.181783] ath_hal: 0.9.18.0 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) [13:13] [ 4510.205240] wlan: 0.9.4 [13:13] [ 4510.217319] ath_pci: 0.9.4 [13:14] is what i thinkcould be related [13:14] no errsors [13:14] M0m023: looks like it loads fine [13:14] errors [13:14] So, any bugs with Xubuntu 9.04? [13:14] i think wlan1 is my usb wifi [13:15] M0m023: you did check if your didn't disable wifi with some button or something? [13:15] i am online via wifi with the usb stick but iwant my better atheros pcmcia card to work [13:16] TheSheep: just a fresh install of xubuntu [13:16] M0m023: some laptops have a button to disable wifi... [13:17] TheSheep: I Have a thinkpad t30 there is no button sorry [13:20] M0m023: it would be an easy solution ;) [13:20] M0m023: you could try to search teh forums further, and the bugtracker [13:20] and maybe also ask at #ubuntu, as this is not specific to xubuntu [13:21] TheSheep: would have been very happy if it was that :) Will do thanks! [13:22] bye [13:33] * Pres-Gas sighs [13:34] What a pretty little distro we have. [13:34] This is the FIRST time I have not had to change GDM and the first time I have done minimal tweaking to the xfce goodies [13:46] Are there any good servers for Xubuntu 9.04? Maybe a good torrent? [13:47] Right now it's only going 30kbs [13:59] Photoguy, the french update servers are up at the moment [13:59] ive got 600kB/s, my max bandwidth [13:59] Wow [14:00] SiDi, This one? France (free.fr) [14:00] Sec, Photoguy [14:01] Free will be overloaded during the day [14:01] Is there any related to the university of nantes ? [14:01] I don't see any.. [14:01] They are all according to country [14:02] http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloading?release=desktop-newest&mirror=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntu.univ-nantes.fr%2Fubuntu-cd%2F&arch=i386 [14:02] They have an huge bandwidth and usually no downloaders [14:02] Oh, I was talking about Xubuntu [14:03] Gonna find the direct URI to their mirrors :) [14:03] they have xubuntu too [14:03] Oh, really? [14:04] * Photoguy joins the search [14:04] Actually they dont :@ [14:04] they have edu and ku but not xu :( [14:04] I'll have to mail them... [14:05] :-/ [14:05] ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.xubuntu.com/releases/9.04/release/ try these, or try the torrent [14:05] Oh well, mine is going a reasonable 100kbps [14:05] torrents should be well-seeded [14:06] anyways if you're having trouble, free.fr got an awesome bandwidth in the mornings :P but will half of france downloading on their servers by the evening, their bandwidth then falls a little [14:06] That's where I am, but I'm doing the normal download [14:06] What country are you in? [14:07] SiDi ^ [14:07] In france :P [14:08] Ah, I'm Israel.. [14:08] Same as Germany time. [14:08] Free.fr is the 3rd ISP here. they got bleeding-edge network (and the worst ever tech support), and they offer websites with FTPs for anyone in france, even if not a client :P [14:08] gmt +1 [14:08] i got 20gbs of storage space there :) [14:08] Yeh its gmt+1 here too [14:09] Ok [14:09] Wow [14:27] SiDi, Did you email them? [14:29] I will, one day.. :P [14:30] No problem.. [14:30] Mine speeded up.. [14:31] But it keeps slowing down. [14:31] :P === NCommander is now known as Guest73647 === Guest73647 is now known as NCommander [15:37] hi. how do you spell xubuntu? [15:37] You got it penguen_ [15:39] thanks :) [15:42] lol [15:52] hello [15:52] xubuntu or regular ubuntu, thats the question :) [15:53] that's like: cappuchino or latte [15:53] I go with Xubuntu everytime. [15:53] how do you want a decent answer? ;) === freego is now known as forces [15:54] hehe [15:54] omg, 10MB/s from ftp! [15:54] nice mirrors :) [15:54] And that is only the beginning [15:55] if i install xubuntu, is it hard to change which os to boot first in grub? [15:55] if i decide to keep xp [15:55] you simply edit /boot/grub/menu.lst [15:55] it isn't hard :) [15:56] yea? "gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" and then change it? [15:56] the order [15:57] should work wright? [15:57] hmm, right or wright [15:57] forgetting my english [15:58] gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the default 0 on line 14 or so to the number of the OS you want to boot first [15:59] 0 = to boot first= [15:59] ? [15:59] 1 = boot second? [16:00] 0 is the first entry down at the bottom of the file. After you get it installed, you count the entries down to what you want to boot first [16:00] okok, thx. I'll give it a shot [16:01] mine is 5, for the fifth entry [16:01] aha [16:01] that easy ey? :) [16:01] burning a copy know [16:02] gparted can resize partitions without causing catastrophy - right? [16:02] You should always backup what you do not want to lose. [16:03] example, got a 436gb in ntfs where i store stuff. usually no problem resizing it? [16:04] nothings foolproof but pretty much? [16:04] I never use ntfs, but have not seen many reports of it giving problems. [16:05] !windows [16:05] For discussion on Microsoft Windows, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents [16:05] no [16:06] ok, thx [16:06] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows === Hetor1 is now known as Hetor [16:24] Do you think it will be possible to upgrade from (X)Ubuntu 8.04 LTS to 11.04LTS? (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades suggests this a bit by saying "The upgrade will not be presented by default because 8.10 is not a Long Term Support (LTS) release.") [16:24] Aquina, it will [16:25] thx! :-)) [16:26] anyone was having problems with reset button? It doesn't work for me sometimes [16:26] Does anyone know if we have a baobab xfce equivalent ? [16:26] Hetor, ctrl+alt+backspace ? [16:27] Sure try: Filelight (Philesight) [16:27] :) [16:54] Aquina, thanks [16:57] ew, its a kde app. [17:07] gdmap is about visualization disk space === awway is now known as lukinfore [17:11] Pfft, no sound now :( === Roonux_ is now known as Roonux [17:47] what is the package name for kde 4.1 ? . i have 4.2.2 and what to remove it. but keep its setting and install kde 4.1 ? [17:47] heh, i just fixed a BIOS corruption. [17:47] theuser1: You would have better luck on #kubuntu. We work with Xfce here [17:48] i [17:48] ok [17:48] now, does anyone know how to solder a BIOS battery back onto a laptop motherboard? [17:48] * SiDi compiling ALSA drivers now. i'll make a clean reinstal next time :x [17:50] Carefully [17:51] lol genii [17:51] J_Litewski: same as a desktop? (use a small soldering iron) ( Never done either one) [17:51] ah [17:51] i got it taped on atm [17:51] it works, it just takes forever and a day to boot [17:52] Lol [17:53] i have to install a tool (xmlto) that has PulseAudio as a dependency in order to install ALSA. Is this normal ? [17:57] PulseAudio library is normal to install ALSA, but I don't know why xmlto should be. It is just an XML to ??? conversion tool, isn't it? [17:58] Maybe I worded that wrong, the library is part of Xubuntu installation. [18:03] It is, charlie-tca [18:03] i need it to compile alsa-utils [18:03] and it requires pulseaudio :/ [18:04] !info pulseaudio [18:04] pulseaudio (source: pulseaudio): PulseAudio sound server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.9.14-0ubuntu20 (jaunty), package size 402 kB, installed size 1780 kB [18:04] Not according to dependencies in synaptic package manager, it doesn't seem to [18:05] You're compiling alsa-utils? Can't just install it? [18:07] charlie-tca, i wanted the latest :P [18:07] cause strangely, with the one shipped with jaunty, i was having a poor volume [18:07] (and it erased my changes in modprobe.d/alsa-utils) [18:07] (i ended up with no sound, and pulse launching itself :X) [18:08] yeah, I believe alsa-utils will require pulseaudio then. [18:08] i wonder why i didnt have xfce4-notifyd installed, too [18:08] I keep trying to avoid pulseaudio, but I suspect it is going to be a forced issue. [18:08] i fear so, too [18:08] We aren't using it, are we? [18:09] We don't [18:09]