[00:00] <gosse> i just did the apt-get kdm, do i use gdm now? do i use kdm now?
[00:00] <gosse> -tear-
[00:00] <Exposure> amgarchIn9, go to wallet settings in control panel
[00:00] <rbrunhuber> gosse: AFAIR you should be asked which you want to use.
[00:00] <amgarchIn9> Exposure: I am in gnome again, KDE is broken
[00:01] <Exposure> well yeah seems it's still far from perfect
[00:01] <gosse> it says above he was quit for bed
[00:02] <Exposure> the thing is, for years now, when I take a look at the IRC channels, forum, the same problems are mentioned again and again: X resolution and wireless network
[00:03] <mermshaus> Exposure: Add bluetooth to the list. ;)
[00:04] <Exposure> yeah that too, but less exposure since it's not used by everybody
[00:04] <drbobb> hmm plasma does not notice that the wallpaper image file has changed
[00:04] <Exposure> and now they've added the dontzap nonsense instead of spending time on fixing X video drivers and wireless user-friendlyness
[00:05] <drbobb> kdesktop used to update the background with a small delay
[00:06] <gosse> after crtll + alt + f1 to the command prompt to install the apt-get kdm stuff... and it is not running (the .pid file is not found) and then SH (driver name), it tells me i'm STILL running x-server
[00:06] <Exposure> ** (nm-applet:6658): WARNING **: <WARN>  applet_dbus_manager_start_service(): Could not acquire the NetworkManagerUserSettings service as it is already taken.  Return: 3
[00:06] <Exposure> :(
[00:06] <slacker_> Hey need some help, how do i add Quakenet to server list ?
[00:07] <W4gn3r> can someone tell me what are the differences between OpenJDK and Sun's JDK? cause I want to install netbeans, through apt-get it'll use OpenJDK.
[00:07] <gosse> can anyone help me?
[00:07] <W4gn3r> the official one uses Sun's JDK
[00:07] <mermshaus> slacker_:  Eh, blind guess: File > Networks > Configure >Add
[00:08] <mermshaus> slacker_: should be in the dropdown box
[00:08] <Exposure> yay gnome's nm-applet works
[00:09] <mermshaus> slacker_: forget that. I assumed you used Quassel. :)
[00:10] <slacker_> Hey need some help, how do i add Quakenet to server list ?
[00:10] <lovre> what is the coolest dock for kubuntu (kde4), osx style?
[00:10] <lovre> slacker_: are you using ktorrent?
[00:10] <slacker_> konversation xD ( i'm new to linux )
[00:11] <pepperjack> assumed you were a slackware user that had seen the light ;p
[00:11] <slacker_> -_-
[00:11] <lovre> slacker_: ye, i ment konversation, i dont know why i wrote that
[00:12] <lovre> File-> server list -> New
[00:12] <lovre> slacker_: ^^
[00:12] <slacker_> hehe yea and just type www.quakenet.com ?
[00:12] <mermshaus> more like irc.quakenet.org
[00:12] <slacker_> sorry :P
[00:13] <gosse> how do i exist tty1
[00:13] <slacker_> it worked!! Great Success
[00:14] <Exposure> nm-applet saves the day
[00:14] <jussi01> gosse: ctrl+alt + f7
[00:14] <gosse> cool thanks. i still have that problem with x-server though
[00:18] <gosse> how do i switch GDM to KDM
[00:18] <faileas_asleep> sudo apt-get install KDM
[00:18] <faileas_asleep> it'll take care of the rest
[00:18] <gosse> i have it installed, just running GDM atm
[00:18] <chx> if you want to switch to kubuntu fully
[00:18] <gosse> oh, alright
[00:18] <chx> then just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:18] <Exposure> gosse, rc-update gdm remove
[00:19] <Exposure> eh update-rc.d gdm remove
[00:19] <gosse> i'll bbs, thanks all.
[00:24] <gigasoft> how can i make kde-start menu to appear-blurr
[00:25] <gigasoft> and be transparent
[00:25] <gigasoft> ?
[00:25] <gigasoft> any help?
[00:30] <bbeck> gigasoft: I don't know about blur, but you need to enable desktop effects to get the transparency.
[00:31] <gigasoft> ok
[00:31]  * Froad whams wubi
[00:31] <gigasoft> but where
[00:32] <nysin> I've using kubuntu 9.04 (amd64) with a fresh install since its beta. Actually worked perfectly fine for a while. At some point hard freezes started occuring. No clear pattern - idle vs load, asleep vs not, disk activity vs no, it's not (to me) some obvious or constant amount of uptime, etc. So, question: how might I troubleshoot this?
[00:33] <nysin> 8.04 and 8.10 never had this problem
[00:34] <linux-hdtv> In Dolphin, how can i select a group of files by clicking on the first and then the last of the selection ?
[00:34] <linux-hdtv> nysin, did you file a bug report ?
[00:34] <nysin> ah, no.
[00:38] <mrksbrd> is ubuntu studio edition a supported release?
[00:39] <bbeck> linux-hdtv: click the plus sign on the first one you want to select, hold down the shift, and click on the last icon you want to select.
[00:39] <bokey> what package provides libkephal ?
[00:41] <bokey> what package provides libkephal.so thought it was kdebase
[00:41] <bbeck> linux-hdtv: ok, I have noticed one weird thing you can only do that once.  If you deslect the icons by clicking on an open area of the pane dolphin won't let you select that way again.  Can you confirm this behavior on you system?
[00:42] <nysin> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libkephal&mode=filename&suite=jaunty&arch=any
[00:42] <nysin> bokey ^^^
[00:42] <bokey> ahh :) thanks nysin
[00:43] <mrksbrd> is ubuntu studio edition a supported release?
[00:44] <nysin> apparently not, depending on your terminology, it's "recognized", but not "supported": http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/derivatives
[00:45] <linux-hdtv> bbeck, going to try again. Dolphin is very slow on dir with 4000 files, unresponsive for 20 seconds while moving 300 of them.
[00:45] <bbeck> linux-hdtv: I'll bet it is.  That sounds like a task better suited for the command line.
[00:46] <linux-hdtv> bbeck, i am with kubuntu so i don't need the cli.
[00:46] <mrksbrd> nysin: ty
[00:46] <bbeck> linux-hdtv: lol
[00:46] <linux-hdtv> selecting a group of files with shift pressed has weird behaviour.
[00:47] <linux-hdtv> again when i tried now, first it deselects the first file when i click plus of the last file.
[00:47] <MushroomKingdom> Has anyone figured out how to make transparent windows? I downloaded all my video drivers but still no transparent support!
[00:48] <pepperjack> MushroomKingdom: are you really that in love with your wallpaper?
[00:48] <kya> Where is system>apppearence or something that replace kcontrol in Kubun 9.04, thanks?
[00:48] <MushroomKingdom> yes
[00:48] <MushroomKingdom> :3
[00:49] <MushroomKingdom> That and I dont like staring at the black :(
[00:49] <MushroomKingdom> It sees into my soul O_O
[00:50] <linux-hdtv> bbeck, the behaviour with selecting even single files is very erratic in my Dolphin.
[00:51] <nysin> I still haven't figured out what precisely the target box is for the '+' overlaid on the upper-left of the icons - with reasonable frequency I still manage to actually launch the file.
[00:52] <MushroomKingdom> And ideas pepper?
[00:57] <linux-hdtv> nysin, maybe a moving target :-)
[00:58] <linux-hdtv> why could Dolphin not remain responsive during a copy operation ? multithreading ?
[00:59] <esdaniel> kya: apperance is in "system setttings" - to get there quickly do Alt-F2 and type "systemsettings"
[00:59] <gigasoft> i want to force delete folder how can i do it in terminal?
[00:59] <kya> Thanks I was trying kcontrol ;)
[01:00] <esdaniel> gigasoft: rm -r
[01:00] <gigasoft> thanks
[01:00] <esdaniel> do "man rm" to check what you're doing before you get started though
[01:00] <linux-hdtv> very confusing also the progress window for a copy operation, is there a way to see the total progress instead of just the timeline for the file being copied ?
[01:01] <nysin> also, it can be helpful to put the -r (or -rf as you may end up using) after the filenames/directory names to delete - less chance of inadvertent prefix-sharing mistakes there.
[01:01] <gigasoft> /home/gigasoft/tmp
[01:02] <linux-hdtv> Dolphin uses 50% of my AMD dual core cpu from last year.
[01:02] <gigasoft> Permission denied
[01:02] <gigasoft> :(
[01:02] <gosse> alright, back... what is the difference between the KDM and the GDM?
[01:02] <linux-hdtv> just for a copy operation.
[01:02] <gigasoft> force delete folder /home/gigasoft/tmp
[01:03] <gigasoft> any help
[01:03] <gigasoft> ?
[01:03] <esdaniel> gigasoft - tmp is often used as a resource directory
[01:03] <esdaniel> i.e. why do you want to delete it?
[01:03] <gigasoft> just tell me?
[01:03] <atraylen> gigasoft - you probably want to leave it alone...
[01:03] <gigasoft> how can i do it?
[01:03] <esdaniel> the reason you can't delete it is because it has permissions set
[01:03] <gigasoft> yes
[01:04] <esdaniel> use the command "chown" to reassign permissions
[01:04] <esdaniel> oops ownership
[01:04] <esdaniel> and chmod for perms
[01:04] <gigasoft> give me an example, please
[01:04] <atraylen> gigasoft - http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q=permissions+and+chown+&btnG=Google+Search
[01:04] <esdaniel> he's got a point ;-)
[01:04] <gigasoft> thanks
[01:05] <esdaniel> you might need to elevate priviledge in order to change ownership or perm
[01:05] <esdaniel> use "sudo" for that
[01:06] <jimmie_bO> me again, ... Prob: no sound after Jaunty KDE3 rmx install. Could that be because of ALSA thing?!
[01:06] <jimmie_bO> flollowed that !sound description and the FAQ about that.
[01:06] <atraylen> Anybody with Nvidia cards upgrade to Jaunty?  Any problems?
[01:06] <gosse> atraylen
[01:06] <gosse> i've had HUGE problems
[01:06] <esdaniel> which backend is configured ? gstreamer or xine?
[01:07] <esdaniel> jmmie ^^^
[01:07] <jimmie_bO> xine
[01:07] <atraylen> gosse - I am downloading the alternate install cd right now... to attempt the upgrade
[01:07] <jimmie_bO> Xine 0.2.60
[01:07] <atraylen> gosse - what kind of problems?
[01:07] <gosse> i downloaded the disk last night, flattened my drive and installed fresh... as long as you want nothing fancy, it should work fine. Nvidia 8600
[01:08] <gosse> KDE is so much more like windows than GDM it's scary :|
[01:09] <jimmie_bO> the hardware driver test was ok, there is sound coming out of my stereo
[01:10] <jimmie_bO> basically through my HDA Intel (ALC861 Analog) hardware ...
[01:10] <MushroomKingdom> :( apt-get thinks im installing things but I'm not
[01:10] <gosse> how do i stop the xserver again? running KDE now if that helps
[01:11] <jimmie_bO> the 2nd device "PulseAudio" isn't working right, so it's switching automatically over to the HDA!
[01:11] <gosse> correction, how do i make KDM my default display manager?
[01:13] <esdaniel> jimmie, did you try making the HDA default for playback
[01:13] <kya> Another question. Fonts en the menus and tabs of firefox are too big and they are not changed on system settings. Any clue?
[01:13] <linux-hdtv> jimmie_bO, did kde4 crash too often or was it too slow ?
[01:13] <linux-hdtv> MushroomKingdom, reboot
[01:14] <kya> Solved. Thanks
[01:14] <gosse> stopping K display manager: kmd not responding to TERM signa. (pid 12778) means what exactly?
[01:14] <jimmie_bO> kde4 was running to slow on my engine
[01:15] <gigasoft> o remove it with all it's contents. If you like using graphical tools to manipulate root-owned files you can fire up Nautilus as root by using:
[01:15] <gigasoft> Code:
[01:15] <gigasoft> gksu nautilus
[01:15] <jimmie_bO> faaaaaaar to slow :D
[01:15] <gigasoft> done the job
[01:15] <gigasoft> :)
[01:15] <linux-hdtv> gosse, try as root ?
[01:15] <MushroomKingdom> kk
[01:15] <gosse> i ran sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[01:15] <scott___> i just changed to 4gb of ram and when i leave my system on for extended periods of time (locked session), i come back, log in and it is frozen (firefox was left open)
[01:16] <linux-hdtv> scott___, let the devs know via a bug report. those freezes are important
[01:16] <gosse> linux-hdtv, i ran it as sudo
[01:17] <bryan> how do i get ubuntu's network  display?
[01:18] <doleyb> bryan: Can you be more specific?  (Or ssh -X)
[01:18] <bryan> doleyb: i upgraded ubuntu and now i cant get the network manager to show up. i cant get it to connect to a wireless connection.
[01:19] <doleyb> bryan: ok, thats easy, in fact there's a page
[01:19] <bryan> doleyb: where is it? i have been lost trying to get it to display.
[01:19] <doleyb> bryan: Read this and scroll down to Network Manager Plasma Widget http://www.kubuntu.org/news/9.04-release
[01:19] <bryan> doleyb: not kubunut. ubunutu
[01:20] <doleyb> bryan: Um do you know what channel this is?
[01:20] <linux-hdtv> bryan, join #ubuntu
[01:20] <bryan> doleyb: fair enough.
[01:20] <gosse> linux-hdtv, can you help?
[01:21] <linux-hdtv> gosse, i am amazed at all the bugs, quite overwhelmed
[01:21] <doleyb> gosse: You want kdm as the default?  Easy thing is remove gdm
[01:21] <Mushroom> k reboot works
[01:22] <gosse> all the bugs with me in particular? it's devastating all the nasty stuff that happens to me in computers... it's always been that way.
[01:22] <linux-hdtv> me too, gosse.
[01:22] <linux-hdtv> not you.
[01:23] <gosse> i've got KDM set to default now... but i need to stop it before i can install my new nvidia drivers... when i type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop i get the erryr that kdm is not responding to term signal
[01:23] <gosse> i haev no idea what that means
[01:23] <linux-hdtv> gosse, reboot
[01:24] <gosse> thanks. :D
[01:25] <Mushroom> I'm having troubles installing the amarok files to play mp3
[01:26] <linux-hdtv> did you try medibuntu ?
[01:26] <Mushroom> no I havent
[01:26] <Mushroom> I'll try that out thanks
[01:27] <linux-hdtv> after installing the sources, start synaptic and install things found by searching for "restricted", just enabled multimedia for me.
[01:29] <Mushroom> ok
[01:29] <gosse> crtl + alt + f7 won't bring me out of tty1
[01:30] <linux-hdtv> try f9
[01:30] <Mushroom> hmm thats odd aptitude doesnt bring up medibuntu
[01:30] <gosse> nope
[01:30] <gosse> reboot?
[01:30] <linux-hdtv> mushroom, medibuntu.org
[01:31] <linux-hdtv> gosse, i am a beginner here ...
[01:31] <gosse> me too :P
[01:31] <Mushroom> ah thankyou
[01:31] <linux-hdtv> did you try ctrl-alt-f9 ?
[01:31] <gosse> didn't work
[01:32] <linux-hdtv> i hope your reboot goes well, gosse.
[01:32] <jpedroza> Hello all. I just finished the update to 9.04 and now I can't connect to my wireless router.
[01:32] <gosse> -tear- me too
[01:33] <jpedroza> Wired access works fine.
[01:33] <Mushroom> Oh
[01:33] <doleyb> jpedroza: Do you have the network manage icon in the corner?
[01:33] <Mushroom> i had the same problem
[01:34] <jpedroza> doleyb: It doesn't launch on its own, but I launched it from the cli: knetworkmanager&
[01:34] <Mushroom> Is your router broadcasting in invisible mode?
[01:34] <jpedroza> Mushroom: No, I can see the router, config the connection, but no connection.
[01:34] <Mushroom> jpedroza: thats odd
[01:34] <jpedroza> Mushroom: I know. It was working great with 8.10.
[01:34] <doleyb> jpedroza: Well that's not what 9.04 uses.  Did you read the network plasmoid directions? http://www.kubuntu.org/news/9.04-release
[01:35] <jpedroza> doleyb: I had missed that.
[01:35] <jpedroza> doleyb: Let me add that and give it a try.
[01:36] <doleyb> probably quit knetworkmanager first
[01:36] <jpedroza> if I disconnect, I will brb
[01:37] <rmrfslash> jpedroza: I just joined. the knetworkmanager applet doesn't work. Not even sure why they include it in the distro. You're supposed to use the plasmoid
[01:38] <rmrfslash> jpedroza: well... it didn't work for me at least :)
[01:38] <doleyb> I'm happy knetworkmanager is gone... it used 1% cpu pretty permanently
[01:39] <doleyb> On the other hand I don't quite like the underlying design of plasmoids.
[01:39] <chx> well.
[01:39] <chx> networkmanager , as it is, sucks.
[01:39] <chx> never was able to get it to join an AdHoc network.
[01:40] <gosse> during the install process, is et the computer to auto-login as my user name... when i switched to KDE, it turned that feature off. how do i set it back?
[01:40] <rmrfslash> I've had more issues w/ the plasmoid... esp. broadband
[01:40] <rmrfslash> and it crashing my machine entirely if I screw w/ it too much
[01:40] <Mushroom> hm. im not sure what to download off medibuntu
[01:41] <doleyb> gosse: system settings, advanced, login manager
[01:41] <rmrfslash> Mushroom: what r u trying to get? Skype?
[01:41] <linux-hdtv> did you find the "restricted" stuff ?
[01:41] <gosse> thx
[01:41] <Mushroom> im trying to get my mp3's to play
[01:41] <rmrfslash> oh
[01:41] <rmrfslash> try songbird
[01:41] <rmrfslash> from mozilla
[01:42] <linux-hdtv> mushroom, did you find the "restricted" stuff ?
[01:42] <Mushroom> I dont see restricted stuff
[01:42] <rmrfslash> sudo apt-get install songbird
[01:42] <rmrfslash> it's very iTunes like
[01:42] <linux-hdtv> did you search for it in synaptic ?
[01:42] <rmrfslash> Then there's amarok
[01:43] <Mushroom> yeah found restricted.
[01:43] <Mushroom> Im trying to get the files for amarok
[01:43] <linux-hdtv> install the modules listed
[01:43] <rmrfslash> I still say go w/ songbird :D
[01:44] <gosse> KDE performance seems mych more sluggish than GMD
[01:44] <rmrfslash> what's GMD
[01:44] <gosse> GDM... dyslexic, don't notice when i transpose letters sometimes
[01:44] <Mushroom> all of the modules?
[01:44] <chx> um. when i start firefox, amarok sound stops and does not restart until i restart amarok2
[01:44] <rmrfslash> what's that, gnome?
[01:44] <gosse> yeah
[01:45] <chx> no shared sound?
[01:45] <rmrfslash> yeah, gnome performance is nice.... but ugg
[01:45] <linux-hdtv> rmrfslash, what repository do i need for songbird ?
[01:45] <gosse> ugg?
[01:45] <rmrfslash> ummmmmm
[01:45] <rmrfslash> not sure
[01:45] <rmrfslash> 3rd party?
[01:45] <linux-hdtv> gosse, i find kde4.2 extremely slow
[01:46] <gosse> i'm not in this for the flashy-flashy... i want to really see what a dual-core 64-bit AMD4400+ can do :D
[01:46] <jpedroza> That did the trick!
[01:46] <linux-hdtv> great :-)
[01:46] <jpedroza> is there a way to import my wireless broadband settings from kppp or knetworkmanager?
[01:47] <rmrfslash> linux-hdtv: im not entirely sure which repo
[01:47] <gosse> -tears of frustration- i don't like KDM at all! just after i get used to GDM, go figure... switching back methinks
[01:47] <doleyb> gosse: Strange, I wonder why someone would use it enough to even care..
[01:47] <rmrfslash> linux-hdtv: its in one of em though!
[01:49] <linux-hdtv> rmrfslash, i have some 43 sources, and synaptic doesnt find a songbird
[01:49] <Mushroom> Should I install every restricted file?
[01:49] <rmrfslash> linux-hdtv: how the hell can I see it then!
[01:50] <doleyb> linux-hdtv: You'd want to play with amarok first.
[01:50] <doleyb> amarok is part of kubuntu, it shouldn't need to be separately installed.
[01:50] <rmrfslash> linux-hdtv: I have multiverse, universe, restricted and main enabled
[01:50] <linux-hdtv> no, mushroom, not the server stuff
[01:50] <jj__> erm...I am having trouble with my macbook 4.1 and not seeing wlan0 in the network manager
[01:51] <linux-hdtv> rmrfslash, i am on kubuntu 9.04 64bit
[01:51] <rmrfslash> me too
[01:51] <rmrfslash> linux-hdtv: I do have medibuntu in my sources
[01:52] <rmrfslash> linux-hdtv: could be comin from there. I mean, you could get it from mozilla
[01:52] <linux-hdtv> is there a bot that could answer when someone mentions the network manager ?
[01:52] <jpedroza> jj__: Are you using knetworkmanager?
[01:52] <jj__> yes
[01:52] <linux-hdtv> rmrfslash, don't know what i'm doing wrong, have medibuntu enabled too
[01:52] <jpedroza> jj__: I just got mine working.
[01:53] <jpedroza> jj__: You need to quit knetworkmanager and use the new plasmoid.
[01:53] <Mushroom> how do I enable universe, multiverse and restricted?
[01:53] <jj__> oh?
[01:53] <jj__> I am fiarly new to plasmoids
[01:53] <jj__> and aparrently new to spelling as well ;-)
[01:54] <rmrfslash> linux-hdtv: I installed it w/ a deb.... maybe now it's showing up (shot in the dark)
[01:54] <jpedroza> jj__: Here is the link: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/9.04-release
[01:54] <Daskreech> !universe | Mushroom
[01:54] <jpedroza> jj__: about halfway down the page
[01:54] <Mushroom> thank you
[01:54] <linux-hdtv> rmrfslash, i understand
[01:55] <rmrfslash> linux-hdtv: if I installed it thoguh a deb would it show up in apt-cache search?
[01:55] <linux-hdtv> how is songbird better then amarok ?
[01:55] <linux-hdtv> i don't know
[01:55] <jpedroza> linux-hdtv: I prefer Amarok
[01:56] <Daskreech> linux-hdtv: it plays the internet?
[01:56] <jpedroza> linux-hdtv: I had both installed and switched to Amarok. Songbird was pretty unstable for me.
[01:56] <rmrfslash> I dunno.... I like that it's iTunes-like and it has a built in web browser so if you find a song and click on it you can supposedly choose to buy it through amazon or other retailers
[01:56] <rmrfslash> gotta go :)
[01:56] <jj__> jpedroza: sorry...but it turns out that was what I was using all along
[01:56] <rmrfslash> try it out... see if u like it (songbird)
[01:56] <linux-hdtv> Daskreech, :-)
[01:56] <rmrfslash> hey Daskreech
[01:57] <rmrfslash> cya
[01:57] <linux-hdtv> rmrfslash, good night :-)
[01:57] <jj__> my wireless won't show up in the plasmoid
[01:58] <jj__> I can see the network controller when I do an lspci -vk, so its up and running
[01:58] <jj__> but I can't get it to show up in the plasmoid
[01:59] <jj__> thus, no connection
[01:59] <jj__> :-(
[01:59] <jj__> idears?
[02:00] <Daskreech> jj__: Hidden essid ?
[02:00] <jj__> hrm...no wlan0 at iwconfig
[02:01] <jj__> its not a matter of the essid being hidden, Daskreech -- I can't even see wlan0
[02:01] <xjjk> jj__: what kind of adapter do you have?
[02:02] <jj__> 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
[02:02] <xjjk> ugh, broadcom card
[02:03] <jj__> I have now officially been at this for 6 hours...I have never had this much trouble before.
[02:03] <jj__> I am wide open to ideas.
[02:03] <Daskreech> jj__: even with ifconfig ?
[02:03] <xjjk> jj__: this isn't a high-level problem with KDE or plasma/any plasmoids
[02:04] <xjjk> if the device is not showing up with iwconfig
[02:04] <jj__> at ifconfig I have eth0 and lo
[02:04] <xjjk> it's probably an issue of the driver not loading
[02:04] <Daskreech> !broadcom
[02:04] <Daskreech> have you read that? ^^^
[02:05] <Daskreech> !broadcom  | Hopefully you've read this already jj__
[02:05] <xjjk> Daskreech: those pages seem out of date
[02:05] <jj__> no...I have Jaunty installed
[02:05] <xjjk> not sure if they apply
[02:05] <jj__> which would be most applicable?
[02:05] <Daskreech> They are but broadcom's suck is forever
[02:05] <xjjk> Jaunty/2.6.28 has had a *huge* reworking of wireless
[02:06] <xjjk> jj__: the latest version, 8.04
[02:06] <jj__> ok
[02:06]  * Daskreech has no clue about wireless
[02:06] <xjjk> jj__: try, on a terminal
[02:06] <Daskreech> jj__: This is a underlying driver issue so seeking help in #ubuntu is viable as well
[02:06] <xjjk> sudo lsmod | grep b43
[02:06] <xjjk> jj__: yes, there would probably be more people with experience in #ubuntu
[02:07] <jj__> xjjk: not running
[02:07] <jj__> not running in lsmod
[02:07] <xjjk> jj__: sudo modprobe b43
[02:08] <jj__> modprobe loads the b43 driver, the lsmod shows it running
[02:08] <xjjk> jj__: try iwconfig, do you see a wireless device now?
[02:09] <jj__> nope
[02:09] <jj__> :-(
[02:09] <xjjk> sudo dmesg
[02:09] <jj__> lo, eth0 and pan0
[02:09] <xjjk> see if anything interesting printed
[02:09] <jj__> hrm
[02:09] <jj__> yes
[02:10] <jj__> cfg80211: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain
[02:10] <jj__> followed by
[02:10] <xjjk> if it's more th an a couple of lines please put onto a pastebin
[02:10] <jj__> [ 1942.398117] cfg80211: World regulatory domain updated
[02:10] <jj__> pastebin?
[02:11] <jj__> hrm...not located here
[02:11] <jj__> sec
[02:11] <jj__> used to my own irc
[02:11] <xjjk> jj__: go to http://paste.ubuntu.com/, and paste the output
[02:11] <Bandolo_Magnesi> hello good evening
[02:11] <Bandolo_Magnesi> wich driver do i need to install for my 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] (rev a1)
[02:12] <Bandolo_Magnesi> i have kubuntu 9.04
[02:12] <xjjk> Bandolo_Magnesi: did you need 3D support
[02:12] <Bandolo_Magnesi> yes definetly
[02:12] <xjjk> the NVIDIA legacy drivers, AFAIK
[02:13] <xjjk> think envyng can help you with it...
[02:13] <Bandolo_Magnesi> i choose the 173 one and it started downloading the driver and then it interrupted and crashed
[02:13] <Daskreech> !nv
[02:13] <jj__> xjjk:  http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/157607/
[02:13] <xjjk> jj__: that's interesting
[02:13] <jj__> quite
[02:14] <xjjk> jj__: could you check /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages
[02:14] <jj__> sure
[02:14] <xjjk> jj__: from the output you've given, things look working and you should have a wireless networking device
[02:14] <Daskreech> restart networking yet?
[02:15] <Daskreech> it won't reload the interfaces until you do that
[02:15] <xjjk> Daskreech: with iwconfig AFAIK that shouldn't matter
[02:15] <xjjk> networking doesn't register interfaces, the drivers do
[02:16] <jj__> xjjk: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/157609/
[02:16] <xjjk> jj__: mmm
[02:16] <jj__> hrrrrrm
[02:16] <jj__> Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.
[02:17] <xjjk> jj__: said computer has an ethernet card, right? eth0 is that and not the wireless, right
[02:17] <jj__> it has both wifi and ethernet
[02:17] <jj__> macbook
[02:17] <jj__> 4.1
[02:18] <Daskreech> air? :-)
[02:18] <xjjk> jj__: BTW, a good, up-to-date FAQ for this: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[02:19] <jj__> lookingnow
[02:20] <xjjk> jj__: there's soemthing about extracting firmware, and needing to do this on Ubuntu is mentioned
[02:20] <xjjk> I'm not sure why this isn't on the community wiki
[02:21] <xjjk> jj__: if you get all this working, it'd be *really* helpful if you coalesced all the steps together and updated the wiki
[02:21] <jj__> heh
[02:21] <jj__> I'll see what I can do
[02:22] <jj__> I have spent the last 10 hours doing this
[02:22] <jj__> the steps are a big huge muddle in my brain
[02:22] <Daskreech> xjjk: Add it yourself?
[02:22] <xjjk> Daskreech: I don't have a Broadcom card, so I can't relaibly add it myself
[02:23] <Daskreech> hrrm good point I guess
[02:23] <xjjk> jj__: try the firmware extraction step?
[02:24] <xjjk> jj__: also, there's a first bit towards the top of the document
[02:24] <xjjk> to check whether your wireless card is even supported by the driver
[02:25] <xjjk> jj__: from a quick look on the Internet, some of the Broadcom cards in Macbooks don't work with the OSS driver...
[02:26] <xjjk> could you run that check mentioned on the FAQ? sudo lspci -vnn | grep 14e4
[02:27] <jj__> sure
[02:27] <jj__> 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n [14e4:4328] (rev 03)
[02:27] <gosse> it takes so terribly long to install the 430 updates after my base install of linux... i want to do it on another computer, is there another distro i can download that has all these updates preapplied?
[02:27] <xjjk> gosse: all distributions that work off the idea of releases will get outdated
[02:28] <gosse> but this one just came out! i'm using 9.04 :P
[02:28] <xjjk> gosse: yeh well...
[02:28] <jj__> te hat chip, BCM4328 isn't listed in the supported chipset for that BW43-fwcutter
[02:28] <jj__> hrm
[02:28] <Dragnslcr> gosse- you could probably get the updated packages and put them on a CD
[02:28] <Daskreech> gosse: just copy the updates to the new computer
[02:28] <Daskreech> ls /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:28] <Dragnslcr> !aptoncd | gosse
[02:29] <Dragnslcr> Or something like that
[02:29] <gosse> that's cute... it also happens to be my last name :P
[02:29] <Daskreech> put them on a USB drive or what have you and then drop them in the same directory on the new computer and it won't download them
[02:29] <xjjk> jj__: hrm, yeh... the FAQ mentioned that 14e4:4328 is not supported
[02:29] <xjjk> the OSS drivers won't work
[02:31] <xjjk> jj__: hrm.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro may be a good starting point here
[02:31] <xjjk> it has details on getting the specific wireless cards used in specific models tow rok
[02:32] <jj__> xjjk: I don't have a macbook pro
[02:32] <jj__> :-(
[02:33] <xjjk> jj__: the wireless hardware is probably exactly the same
[02:33] <xjjk> jj__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[02:33] <kde185> anyone here able to comment on how the lpia version of kubuntu performs on an eee 1000?  I've heard the intel X driver is very slow.
[02:35] <wzh> hi
[02:36] <jj__> xjjk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook4-1/Jaunty    is the one I have
[02:36] <Mushroom> grrrr I still cant get transparency to work!!
[02:36] <jj__> and according to that page, It just works after enabling the broadcom :-(
[02:36] <jj__> nope
[02:36] <xjjk> jj__: check really quick, do you have the linux-restricted-modules package instaleld?
[02:36] <wzh> I use kubuntu,how can I install chinese
[02:39] <jj__> xjjk: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/157615/
[02:40] <xjjk> jj__: it's installed...
[02:40] <xjjk> try: sudo lsmod | grep wl
[02:40] <xjjk> AFAIK that's the name of the proprietary broadcom driver
[02:41] <jj__> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/157617/
[02:41] <Mushroom> What do I need to do to so my desktop allows me to have transparent backgrounds?
[02:41] <xjjk> jj__: grep wl /var/log/syslog /var/log/messages
[02:44] <jj__> Apr 24 17:36:08 kovacs kernel: [    8.679708] wl: module license '' taints kernel.
[02:46] <Mushroom> Doesn anyone know how to get transparency working?
[02:46] <Mushroom> I have desktop effects on
[02:47] <xjjk> jj__: that's it...?
[02:47] <xjjk> jj__: AFAIK, really, your wireless looks as if it should be working
[02:47] <jj__> xjjk: yes
[02:47] <xjjk> jj__: have you asked in #ubuntu.. perhaps somewhere there also with a Macbook
[02:49] <Bandolo_Magnesi_> still problems  with nvidia geforce 5200 drivers on kubuntu9.04
[02:49] <jj__> I'll have to look at this closer
[02:49] <jj__> http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[02:50] <xjjk> jj__: those are included with Ubuntu already
[02:51] <mackindale> hey, how do I change the clock from 12 hour time to 24 time?
[02:52] <jj__> thanks, xjjk I think i will :-)
[02:53] <mackindale> When I look at the Date & Time setting in System Settings, it's 24 hour but it's not on the panel?
[02:55] <m_tadeu> hi...my desktop freezes with no apparent reason....is anyone having the same problem?
[02:55] <mackindale> What version of KDE do you have?
[02:56] <AlephZarro> Hey everyone.  I'm up and running on Kubuntu 9.04 but I can't find a way to specify the monitor (my monitor is a much older ViewSonic GS790 which doesn't have the whiz-bangy auto detection goodness).  KStart -> System Settings -> Display just shows a "VGA" monitor type.  Any ideas?
[02:56] <m_tadeu> 4.2.2...using jaunty
[02:57] <mackindale> I see
[02:57] <mackindale> well what are your specs?
[02:58] <mermshaus> m_tadeu: do you have the desktop effects activated?
[02:58] <m_tadeu> mermshaus: yup...but deactivating won't solve the problem
[02:59] <mermshaus> m_tadeu: ah, okay. :-( It did solve it for me.
[02:59] <dominick> has anybody upgraded yet?
[02:59] <mackindale> upgraded to what?
[02:59] <mackindale> 9.04?
[02:59] <dominick> yep
[03:00] <mackindale> It's still a little buggy, but it's nice
[03:00] <mackindale> kopete is a disaster for me
[03:00] <mackindale> and it seems amorak has to be reinstalled
[03:01] <dominick> @mackindale do you recommend it now? or should we wait?
[03:01] <m_tadeu> kopete crashes like hell :)
[03:01] <mackindale> I'd wait maybe 2 weeks
[03:01] <mermshaus> I've got no problems except for phpmyadmin and desktop effects.
[03:01] <dominick> @mackindale ok. will take your advice then. :)
[03:02] <mackindale> desktop effects failed me too
[03:02] <mackindale> poor cube...
[03:02] <mackindale> ;_;
[03:02] <Mushroom> I cant have transparent windows :(
[03:02] <Mushroom> I dont know how to fix i
[03:02] <Mushroom> it*
[03:02] <mermshaus> Yeah, no way to make people jealous. ;-\
[03:03] <mermshaus> "no way" is that correct english? ah, i dont care.
[03:03] <mackindale> I think it is
[03:03] <troob> ack 380 updates.. so slow... anyway to speed up KPackageKit for beta->9.04 final?
[03:03] <mackindale> haha
[03:03] <mackindale> download the ISO
[03:03] <mackindale> and write to CD
[03:03] <dominick> well, i'm happy with intrepid so far
[03:03] <KDesk> hi
[03:03] <faileas> lol
[03:03] <mackindale> I didn't, but should have
[03:03] <troob> but i'm using it now..l
[03:04] <tacosarecool> hello
[03:04] <mackindale> Hello
[03:04] <troob> why is the details button disabled on KPackageKit during download?
[03:04] <KDesk> I am seraching a hex editor for kde, I read about khexeditor but I can't find a deb for it. Which other good hex editor can I install?
[03:04] <tacosarecool> I plan on reinstall kubuntu so is it best to manually partition?
[03:04] <mackindale> mhm
[03:05] <tacosarecool> !ext4
[03:05] <doleyb> troob: it will probably get active when the downloads are over and its installing.  it has no details yet.
[03:05] <mackindale> woah, what's ext4?
[03:06] <doleyb> mackindale: a new fs that trapped some people who didn't flush their streams!
[03:09] <KDesk> the repo for karmix is open hehe
[03:09] <tom_> are there any click for pay that are not scams?
[03:10] <sgrover> help? new install of 9.04.  Installed Thunderbird.  Credentials are set up, but when connecting I'm prompted for a password for "username@domain.com@server.domain.com".  Of course that fails
[03:10] <Dragnslcr> KDesk- did you try searching for "hex" in KPackageKit (or Adept)? Looks like ghex might be something to try
[03:10] <tacosarecool> so is it best to run ext4 with ext3?
[03:10] <sgrover> I've reset the values many times, even edited thunderchicken's perfs.js file manually.  No joy
[03:11] <Daskreech> KDesk: oketa
[03:11] <KDesk> Dragnslcr: oh, yes, I will take a look at it, I was initialy searchin for a qt app, but it not bad this :)
[03:13] <Daskreech> MushroomKingdom: All hail toadstool!
[03:13] <Daskreech> !info oketa
[03:13] <Dragnslcr> !info okteta
[03:13] <Daskreech> Curses
[03:13] <bokey> lol
[03:13] <Dragnslcr> That's what I get for only searching by package name instead of description
[03:14] <Daskreech> Dragnslcr: :-)
[03:14] <Daskreech> KDesk: ^^
[03:14] <bokey> isn't there any app for kde? bring it on!
[03:14] <Dragnslcr> I've just been enjoying being able to search only by package name so much
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> I had missed it since going to KDE4
[03:15] <Byron> I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking for (terminology-wise), but I want to export video from my AAO to my desktop's monitor (It's setup with a KVM switch)
[03:15] <KDesk> Daskreech: oh, wow, this is good, I have to practice searching in apt... but  aptitude search hex |grep kde doesn't show okteta...
[03:15] <tacosarecool> Is it best to run ext4 with ext3?
[03:16] <Daskreech> KDesk: Why would it?
[03:16] <Daskreech> tacosarecool: That statement makes no sense
[03:16] <tacosarecool> cause you can run both
[03:16] <doleyb> tacosarecool: surely you meant to say KDE4
[03:16] <tacosarecool> at the same time
[03:17] <bokey> kde4.2 is awesome
[03:17] <Daskreech> It still makes no sense
[03:17] <doleyb> tacosarecool: no its not best, pick one
[03:17] <KDesk> Daskreech: because I thought... I thought it searches in name and description.. so many years and now I know that. hehe
[03:17] <tacosarecool> oh ok
[03:17] <Byron> This would be the first time I've heard of 2 different FS's running at the same time and not one within the other.
[03:17] <sgrover> tacosarecool: can't run both on same partition at once - assuming you mean the file systems ext3 and ext4.
[03:17] <bokey> haha
[03:17] <tacosarecool> yes
[03:17] <KDesk> Daskreech:  ah, it was:  apt-cache search kde hex
[03:17] <Daskreech> KDesk: try search hex | grep -i kde
[03:18] <sgrover> is ext4 officially stable yet?
[03:18] <bokey> are you guys practising your apt foo?
[03:18] <tacosarecool> Patches were released
[03:18] <mermshaus> g
[03:18] <tacosarecool> should be stable enough
[03:18] <Daskreech> sgrover: Officially? yes
[03:18] <sgrover> "stable enough" is not good enough for my business needs.. :)
[03:18] <tacosarecool> Ext4 only has problems when the patches weren't officially released
[03:18] <Byron> For everyone here, I recommend reading Linux Phrasebook. It has quite a bit of what you need to know as basics for running commands and the general bases are covered with great examples.
[03:19] <Daskreech> sgrover: Thats exactly what it is now
[03:19] <Daskreech> Byron: Great :-)
[03:19] <mermshaus> Byron: is there a link or something? i'm way too lazy to google.
[03:19] <Byron> I take that back, not everyone. There are people here who can more than likely piece something together a bit better.
[03:19]  * faileas learnt a lot off irc ;p
[03:19] <Daskreech> !commands | Byron hope that helps too
[03:19] <doleyb> sgrover: ext4's normal mode doesn't provide some implicit features of ext3, which hurt some client code in semi-rare situations.
[03:19] <Byron> Daskreech: Yes, it really is
[03:19] <bokey> Byron: liar!
[03:19] <Daskreech> bokey: Be nice
[03:20] <Byron> mermshaus: Yes, I can get you one right now from Amazon
[03:20] <bokey> all you need is access to man page and info
[03:20] <bokey> Daskreech: lol :D
[03:20] <mermshaus> Byron: booh! :)
[03:21] <mackindale> so I have 500GB, and want a new OS. What should I download? Not a Linux one, though.
[03:21] <bokey> Daskreech: what makes you think i am cruel?
[03:21] <bokey> to people
[03:21] <muti> ... question, why when i try to play a video over a smb share it has to copy the whole file to the local pc instead of playing it from the share
[03:21] <Byron> mermshaus: Here is the Amazon.com... http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Phrasebook-Developers-Library-Granneman/dp/0672328380
[03:21] <mermshaus> oh well, 14 bucks
[03:21] <muti> using vlc, dunno if that makes a difference
[03:21] <faileas> mackindale: considering where you're asking?
[03:21] <Daskreech> mackindale: PC-bsd or opensolaris
[03:21] <Byron> Here is the Google Books... http://books.google.com/books?id=3w4sjblXbjwC&dq=book:linux+phrasebook&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=xx-hacker&ei=f3PySZeVMJHoMJHX7b0P&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4
[03:21] <mermshaus> Byron: merci!
[03:22] <Byron> mermshaus: ;)
[03:22] <Byron> I have found this book to be very insightful and useful
[03:24] <mermshaus> Byron: I'll bookmark it. 14 $ sounds quite fair.
[03:24] <bokey> gee why dont you guys read man pages for a change. ;)
[03:25] <Byron> 365 pages of actual content, the rest is the intro and index
[03:25] <faileas> mackindale: haiku or react ;p
[03:25] <mermshaus> because man pages are for the weak. ;)
[03:26] <faileas> Daskreech: pcbsd is nice, but the 'easy' package management never worked when i tried it a few years back
[03:26] <doleyb> real men cat *.c
[03:26] <bokey> lol you've got wrong impression
[03:26] <bokey> my friend
[03:26] <mermshaus> did you ever read man git?
[03:26] <bokey> man pages are the work of true artists
[03:27] <bokey> if i use git, yes i would
[03:27] <mermshaus> man git truly is a work of artists. :-)
[03:29] <bokey> hehe
[03:29] <angelo_> hi
[03:30] <angelo_> alguno habla español?
[03:30] <Byron> !es | angelo_
[03:30] <mermshaus> donde esta el dinero
[03:30] <Byron> mermshaus: LOL
[03:31] <angelo_> ok :D
[03:31] <angelo_> que dinero ?
[03:31] <mermshaus> only sentence I know. :) sry, guys
[03:31] <Byron> donde esta el sanitario </Encino Man>
[03:32] <bokey> por favor hable Inglés aquí. gracias!
[03:35] <m_tadeu> is it possible that ubuntu updates the nvidia drivers for a more recent version in the next few days?
[03:35] <mackindale> probably
[03:36] <mackindale> now that there's a new release, loads of people will be submitting bugs and requests
[03:36] <m_tadeu> unfortunatelly I need the one marked as prerelease
[03:36] <muti> how do ya configure dolphin to use double click?
[03:38] <Byron> muti: it's in your system settings
[03:38] <mermshaus> muti: I guess you via System Settings > Keyboard & Mouse > Mouse > Icons
[03:38] <mermshaus> -you
[03:39] <muti> my system settings are already set to double click though
[03:39] <muti> i have to double click to open other things now so it did take the setting
[03:39] <muti> but in dolphin everything is still single click
[03:40] <mermshaus> muti: (Hm... In that case I do not know.)
[03:42] <bokey> can anyone check something quick for me? thanks
[03:42] <mermshaus> what is it?
[03:43] <bokey> open konqueror and go to http://get.adobe.com:80/flashplayer/otherversions/, select "linux" and submit
[03:43] <bokey> mermshaus: ^^^^
[03:43] <mermshaus> waitasecond
[03:43] <mermshaus> wthey?
[03:44] <bokey> mermshaus: dl flash
[03:44] <mermshaus> why are you doing those ^^^^? i'm kind of sceptical now.
[03:44] <bokey> mermshaus: above
[03:45] <mermshaus> oic
[03:45] <mermshaus> doesnt work.
[03:45] <bokey> mermshaus: so it doesnt dl for you as well?
[03:45] <mermshaus> yep
[03:45] <bokey> demn
[03:45] <mermshaus> can't click on continue.
[03:45] <bokey> same here
[03:46] <mermshaus> but try $ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:46] <bokey> mermshaus: thats not an issue, i've got flash already.
[03:46] <tacosarecool> reinstall woot!
[03:46] <genii> When you're in console, use TAB key to change fields, enter to select things. Not the mouse
[03:46] <tacosarecool> fast server ftw
[03:47] <bokey> mermshaus: i am trying to get a new one (binary one) from Adobe
[03:47] <josh___> I just upgraded to Jaunty, and virtually everything is broken (i.e. Dolphin, Konqueror, Konsole). How/where should I start to find a solution? (By broken, I mean when I try to open them I get the busy icon for a couple seconds, they show up on the taskbar, then disappear with no error message visible.)
[03:49] <mermshaus> bokey: no idea, sorry
[03:49] <mackindale> try upgrading
[03:49] <mackindale> with adept
[03:50] <bokey> mermshaus: thats cool thanks
[03:51] <perseid> I'm trying to upgrade to 9.04. It was downloading at 30k/sec so I aborted so I could change sources. Adept is now broken and won't let me change sources.
[03:51] <troob> Doest the 64-bit build work ok?
[03:52] <doleyb> troob: yeah it's hard to tell it apart
[03:53] <josh___> troob: I'm having problems w/ it, but I'm not sure if they're just bugs in my system
[03:56] <histo> you guys experiencing problems with pulseaudio as well?
[03:56] <perseid> Is it possible to upgrade with a source besides main at all?
[03:57] <bokey> mermshaus: do you use video sites?
[03:57] <bokey> mermshaus: youtube/vimeo etc
[03:57] <mermshaus> sure
[03:57] <bokey> could you see if it works? thanks
[03:58] <bokey> i've got Version 4.2.00 (KDE 4.2.0) still crashing.
[03:58] <Daskreech> histo: pulseaudio isn't installed by kubuntu-desktop
[03:58] <mermshaus> one sec. i'll be right back
[03:58] <histo> kk
[03:58] <bokey> mermshaus: sure
[03:58] <Daskreech> bokey: where did you get that?
[03:58] <Daskreech> should be 4.2.1 at least
[03:58] <bokey> Daskreech: my archive
[03:58] <perseid> LOL The upgrader says it will take 82 days.
[03:59] <bokey> Daskreech: it says its 4.2.0
[03:59] <EagleScreen> then be patient lol
[03:59] <bokey> kde is 4.2.0 as well
[04:00] <Daskreech> perseid: KDE 4.2.4 should be out then
[04:00] <bokey> everything has worked so far except video site with konqueror and couple of other sites
[04:02] <mermshaus> bokey: shall i try something like youtube with konqueror?
[04:02] <bokey> mermshaus: sure
[04:04] <mermshaus> http://www.vimeo.com/3909301 works fine with the flash I got from the repos.
[04:04] <MushroomKingdom> yay I got sound working
[04:04] <bokey> mermshaus: and the flash you got is flashplugin-nonfree yeah
[04:04] <MushroomKingdom> now I need to get transparencies to work
[04:05] <mermshaus> bokey: yeah, i'm pretty sure it is. maybe I got flashplugin-installer (or something like that), too
[04:06] <bokey> mermshaus: i've got the non-free straight from adobe's website works with FF
[04:06] <sancho21> I'm a Kubuntu 9.04 user, I would like to stay away from pppoeconf which is too geek for my friend.
[04:06] <bokey> used it for years
[04:06] <sancho21> What should I use?
[04:07] <mermshaus> two days ago, I had to reinstall it through kpackagekit because there were some upgrade issues. so I'm pretty sure I have got the nonfree-version from the repositories. it doesn't work for you?
[04:09] <EagleScreen> kpackagekit is not mature
[04:09] <bokey> mermshaus: just pulled it, it doesn't. non-free does the same exact thing that i do manually
[04:09] <bokey> dl it, put it in the right place
[04:09] <EagleScreen> !aptitude
[04:09] <mermshaus> I never got aptitude. :-)
[04:09] <EagleScreen> or install synaptic with 'sudo aptitude -R install synaptic'
[04:10] <bokey> mermshaus: theres adept as well if you wanna try
[04:10] <perseid> ...are there sources besides the main two that work? Are there ANY sources that work above 50K?
[04:10] <bokey> hell i am gonna give up on video sites with konqueror now
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[04:11] <doleyb> bokey: oh why did give up?  did it work with firefox?
[04:11] <mermshaus> bokey: thanks
[04:11] <bokey> doleyb: yes it works with FF
[04:11] <doleyb> bokey: you pushed the button for konqueror to copy firefox's plugins, and it didn't work?
[04:11] <bokey> mermshaus: no worries my friend
[04:11] <bokey> doleyb: yes
[04:11] <doleyb> bokey: sad!
[04:12] <bokey> is there a way to check all the registered plugins with konqueror?
[04:12] <bokey> besides the one in the settings i.e
[04:12] <AliTarihi> Hi, I have a repository with patched kernel packages, but I can not install from them
[04:13] <bokey> AliTarihi: how so?
[04:13] <AliTarihi> bokey: I've added the repo. But the names seem to be the same and I can not install via aptitude
[04:13] <bokey> AliTarihi: what is the package youre trying to install and from where?
[04:14] <MushroomKingdom> How do I uninstall things?
[04:14] <AliTarihi> bokey: tux on ice
[04:14] <Jonie> anyone installed grub-gfxboot?
[04:15] <sancho21> Kubuntu adsl how?
[04:15] <sancho21> I don't like pppoeconf
[04:16] <mermshaus> MushroomKingdom: what do you want to uninstall?
[04:16] <perseid> So what do I do here? Just not update?
[04:16] <MushroomKingdom> I installed this science thing accidentally
[04:16] <MushroomKingdom> openuniverse space simulator
[04:17] <bokey> AliTarihi: wheres the link for kernel module?
[04:17] <mermshaus> MushroomKingdom: Try removing it via Adept.
[04:17] <AliTarihi> bokey: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tuxonice/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[04:17] <AliTarihi> bokey: it is an entire set of modules and kernel images
[04:19] <AliTarihi> bokey: will be back
[04:20] <bokey> yeah sure
[04:22] <perseid> ...if I go to edit sources it crashes.
[04:23] <EagleScreen> perseid: what kubuntu version?
[04:24] <perseid> 8.10. All I'm trying to is upgrade to 9.04 at more than50k/sec.
[04:24] <EagleScreen> !upgrade | perseid
[04:26] <perseid> So there are no other servers.
[04:26] <AliTarihi_> bokey: any luck?
[04:27] <Dragnslcr> Hm, Quassel doesn't have an option to automatically connect to a network on start?
[04:29] <mermshaus> http://www.vimeo.com/3909301 check out clayton cubitt
[04:29] <lorecaster> -rubs temples- now then... i think i got a whole bunch of problems sorted out :D
[04:29] <lorecaster> (lorecaster = gosse)
[04:30] <__lEo__> hi!
[04:32] <lorecaster> blessed be lEo
[04:34] <__lEo__> :-)
[04:34] <__lEo__> thanks for such a wlcome !
[04:34] <__lEo__> lol
[04:35] <__lEo__> I am test driving Quassel
[04:35] <lorecaster> When you see my name here, i'm actually active, no worries. most people who are here are in a dozen places at once, and only check in if the name turns read
[04:35] <lorecaster> quassel?
[04:35] <__lEo__> I always keep upgrading my Kubuntu
[04:35] <__lEo__> Quassel IRC
[04:35] <devilsadvocate> is the network manager even working in 9.04?
[04:35] <lorecaster> hey devil!
[04:35] <__lEo__> the new default IRC client in 9.04
[04:35] <lorecaster> :D
[04:35] <mermshaus> and it's awesome! so you know. ;-)
[04:35] <__lEo__> it is working here
[04:36] <__lEo__> (NM)
[04:36] <__lEo__> everything but the ati driver for my onboard gpu :-(
[04:37] <MushroomKingdom> Can someone please help me try to get my konsole to be transparent rather than black :(
[04:39] <bokey> AliTarihi_: did you get your problem solved?
[04:40] <AliTarihi_> bokey: no, not yet
[04:40] <icarus_> MushroomKingdom: As far as I know Console Transparency is an additional function. Possibly a different terminal.
[04:40] <bokey> AliTarihi_: ok chuck that launchpad line in your /etc/apt/sources.list (as root) and do ' sudo aptitude update'
[04:40] <__lEo__> Mushroom: is this configurable in KDE 4?
[04:40] <mermshaus> I guess you have to activate desktop effects.
[04:40] <MushroomKingdom> icarius_: is there something I should download?
[04:40] <icarus_> let me look.
[04:40] <MushroomKingdom> I did
[04:41] <bokey> AliTarihi_: what kernel do you use?
[04:41] <bokey> AliTarihi_: version (uname -a)
[04:41] <MushroomKingdom> I have desktop effects enabled, but I'm told that my desktop doesnt support transparencies. What can I do about this?
[04:41] <icarus_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212959
[04:41] <mermshaus> Than you can try to edit: Konsole > Settings >Edit current profile > Appearance > Edit
[04:41] <AliTarihi_> bokey: Linux kalimion 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:58:03 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:41] <mermshaus> There should be a slider for background transparency
[04:41] <icarus_> The background transparency of the Terminal is seperate from Kwin
[04:42] <bokey> AliTarihi_: the module will run on only 2 versions sadly its not there for .28-11
[04:42] <doleyb> devilsadvocate: Yeah it works, you might have to add network plasmoid to your bar.
[04:42] <bokey> AliTarihi_: you'd need to download the module and recompile it for your kernel
[04:42] <MushroomKingdom> ohh
[04:42] <bokey> AliTarihi_: manually i.e
[04:42] <bokey> linux - 2.6.28-12.44+tuxonice1
[04:42] <bokey>  linux - 2.6.27-15.33+tuxonice2
[04:42] <__lEo__> ah, i can;t set transpareency either in Konxole
[04:43] <bokey> those are the only once
[04:43] <AliTarihi_> bokey: I see. Thx :)
[04:43] <__lEo__> Konsole: it tells me it;s not allowed in my desktop
[04:43] <MushroomKingdom> :) hopefully this works
[04:43] <AliTarihi_> bokey: I'll do that
[04:43] <__lEo__> like Mushroom
[04:43] <bokey> AliTarihi_: no worries
[04:43] <MushroomKingdom> icarus_ posted a good link
[04:43] <MushroomKingdom>  < icarus_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212959
[04:45] <devilsadvocate> doleyb, my network works, but i dont see the manager writing stuff to /etc/network/interfaces - its still my old hand written file.. also, the plasmoid says my ip is dum.my.ip.addr
[04:46] <raylu> devilsadvocate: of course not. /etc/network/interfaces is for your configuration
[04:46] <raylu> if you configure anything there, networkmanager actually ignores it
[04:46] <devilsadvocate> raylu, ah. so i need to remove my file for nm to do its thing?
[04:46] <icarus_> is anyone having trouble with the new NetworkManager widget not saving whatconfigs you set?
[04:47] <bokey> mermshaus: what konqueror version is it you got there? thanks
[04:47] <raylu> devilsadvocate: i'm not sure what your situation is right now. but "ifconfig" will give you your current ip if you're interested
[04:47] <raylu> devilsadvocate: you certainly shouldn't remove the file, but commenting out some lines may help
[04:47] <icarus_> My settings for WEP dont save. I set it to hex and it goes to passphrase
[04:47] <doleyb> raylu: think he wants the network manager to work, which is the default way that stuff is supposed to happen
[04:48] <__lEo__> thanks Mushroom!
[04:48] <raylu> icarus_: "goes to passphrase?"
[04:48] <mermshaus> bokey: marc@suzu:~$ konqueror -version
[04:48] <mermshaus> Qt: 4.5.0
[04:48] <mermshaus> KDE: 4.2.2 (KDE 4.2.2)
[04:48] <mermshaus> Konqueror: 4.2.2 (KDE 4.2.2)
[04:48] <devilsadvocate> raylu, my situation is that my network works fine, but i dont think the nm applet is doing anything right now. i'm a bit concerned whether its working or not. i can always configure it manually though, so it should really be ok
[04:48] <bokey> mermshaus: and its 9.04 right?
[04:48] <icarus_> Ifor WEP encryption I can choose between passphrase and hex key
[04:48] <__lEo__> All: remember to seed a torrent image of Kubuntu if you can, the servers are still very slowed down!
[04:48] <mermshaus> bokey: yep
[04:48] <raylu> devilsadvocate, doleyb: oh. i'd take out everything except the "lo" lines
[04:48] <icarus_> I need to use 128bit hex. Howeever when I select HEX encryption. I enter in the wep string and save it.
[04:48] <raylu> icarus_: they're just different ways of representing the same thing
[04:48] <icarus_> It does not save it as hex
[04:49] <raylu> icarus_: after you save it, it converts the hex to the string i assume
[04:49] <icarus_> no. there are actual differences between hex and passphrasee
[04:49] <raylu> hrm?
[04:49] <icarus_> HEX keys are alphanumeric between A-F and 0-9
[04:49] <bokey> Daskreech: i know where i got 4.2.0 from! :) backports
[04:50] <icarus_> Passphrase are unrestricted alphanumeric strings
[04:50] <icarus_> Passphrases are often called Pre-Shared Keys too. (Or atleast thought of in conjunction with it.)
[04:50] <bokey> ppa is too slow atm so i pulled it from backport.. wasn't a good subistute
[04:50] <Daskreech> bokey: That should be 4.2.1 I think
[04:50] <icarus_> So It is vital that I choose HEX.
[04:51] <bokey> Daskreech: hrm
[04:51] <MushroomKingdom> Awww it's still not transparent
[04:52] <bokey> you're right afaics
[04:53] <icarus_> MushroomKingdom. Google search Transparent Terminals and etc.
[04:53] <icarus_> There may be some terminals in Adept or Synaptic which may have transparency
[04:53] <mermshaus> MushroomKingdom: nobody needs a transparent terminal! it's a feature! ;-)
[04:55] <icarus_> Just make sure that you don't use a background that will conflict with your text color lol.
[04:55] <doleyb> I see the warning that kubuntu upgrade accidently installs pulseaudio.  But, what badness does that cause?
[04:55] <devilsadvocate> konsole has a transparant background now :|
[04:56] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: you dont have compositing but want a transparant terminal?
[04:56] <MushroomKingdom> compositing?
[04:56] <icarus_> Doleyb: As far as I know whether or not it causes bad problems. It will conflict with Alsa if its active. And Pulseaudio provides different driver support.
[04:56] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: desktop effects
[04:56] <MushroomKingdom> I have them enabled.. but still no transparent
[04:57] <doleyb> icarus_: is pulseaudio a gnome thing?
[04:57] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: ah. open up a konsole and go to edit current profile
[04:57] <MushroomKingdom> k
[04:57] <icarus_> Doleyb: Not it isn't. I do know ofr a fact PulseAudio are used with SoundBlaster cards because they provide the most support.
[04:57] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: there, one of the tabs has a list of color schemes. select your favourite and click on edit
[04:57] <icarus_> It is just another type of sound driver. Like Gnome-Terminal or KDE's Konsole
[04:57] <icarus_> No major difference. just different.
[04:57] <devilsadvocate> you'll see the transparancy option inside there
[04:58] <MushroomKingdom> It says that the colour scheme uses a transparent background and doesnt not appear to be supported by my desktop
[04:58] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: what graphics do you have?
[04:58] <MushroomKingdom> NVidia GeForce 8400
[04:59] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: with restricted drivers enabled?
[04:59] <MushroomKingdom> I think so
[04:59] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: somewhere in systemsettings>hardware
[05:00] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: check in system settings > desktop
[05:00] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: does it say desktop effects enabled?
[05:00] <MushroomKingdom> yes
[05:01] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: strange
[05:01] <bokey> it was indeed from backports
[05:01] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: in advanced, what does the compositing type say?
[05:02] <MushroomKingdom> openGL
[05:02] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: is the apply button on the bottom greyed out (it should be)
[05:02] <MushroomKingdom> yes
[05:03] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: by all accounts, it should be working right now. you should be able to set a transparant background in konsole settings>edit current profile>appearence>edit
[05:04] <MushroomKingdom> well I enabled something In hardware i never had before, I'm going to reboot and see if that helped. Thank you
[05:04] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: try moving a window about the screen. does it become transparant while you move it (i think that is the default behaviour)
[05:06] <devilsadvocate> ok. so someone point me to some fun stuff thats new with 9.04 :P
[05:07] <doleyb> devilsadvocate: is alt-tab new and fun?
[05:07] <mermshaus> g
[05:07] <devilsadvocate> its the same as before?
[05:07] <devilsadvocate> hm
[05:08] <devilsadvocate> im liking the speed and responsiveness, although X is taking 70-80% of one core :|
[05:08] <doleyb> devilsadvocate: really, i am simply happy that ubuntu finally includes my network drivers
[05:09] <doleyb> oh and 9.04 included my touchpad driver at last
[05:09] <devilsadvocate> :)
[05:11] <doleyb> But i had been hoping it would do my microphone...!  i'll have to check more to see if maybe its fixed.
[05:15] <gaurav> hey ..
[05:15] <gaurav> i just upgraded my kubuntu OS
[05:16] <gaurav> to the latest version being offered
[05:16] <gaurav> 9.04
[05:16] <__lEo__> hi gaurav
[05:16] <gaurav> and it ...is now running terribly slow
[05:16] <__lEo__> the graphics?
[05:16] <gaurav> the whole thing!
[05:16] <__lEo__> or the processes in general?
[05:16] <gaurav> resizing
[05:16] <gaurav> opening start menu
[05:16] <gaurav> plus ..on top of it ...
[05:16] <doleyb> gaurav: check if you have kded4 going crazy
[05:16] <bazhang> !enter
[05:16] <gaurav> the KNetworkManager is missing
[05:17] <bokey> gaurav: what does 'top' show?
[05:17] <gaurav> my network is working ..but ..Knetworkmanager is ..no running in task manager
[05:17] <doleyb> gaurav: knetworkmanager is gone, activate the plasmoid instead (as shown in release notes)
[05:17] <__lEo__> can you check whether one process is taking over? Yes, I was wondering if you can use Top or the System Monitor
[05:17] <gaurav> how to check is kded4 is going crazy?
[05:17] <doleyb> gaurav: just look at top, and see if kded4 is at 99%.   If it is, just log out and back in.
[05:18] <gaurav> Xorg is 75%
[05:18] <__lEo__> also: Appplications->System-> System Monitor
[05:18] <__lEo__> what graph card do you have?
[05:18] <gaurav> i am using ibm thinkpad r51 ...i guess it has intel chipset
[05:19] <bokey> gaurav: you're 2nd person today with intel card on 9.04
[05:19] <gaurav> is Xorg a new program?? ...i had not seen it before in task manager
[05:19] <bokey> win 13
[05:19] <bvance> Hello, 9.04 issue-> eth0 doesn't show up in the control panel. The Wired Connections tab doesn't list any nics!
[05:19] <gaurav> ohhh
[05:19] <gaurav> is there any support issues with intel chipsets?
[05:20] <OxDeadC0de> can anyone here tell me how to pipe the output from locate --regex ".*\(ttf\)$" into cp output ./ ?
[05:20] <gaurav> i was amazed seeing the tagline ...easier ..faster ...
[05:20] <gaurav> buts ..its slower ...
[05:20] <gaurav> maybe ...machine dependent
[05:20] <OxDeadC0de> is there a simple magic trick for doing it?
[05:22] <MushroomKingdom> hah ha
[05:22] <MushroomKingdom> its transparent
[05:22] <lorecaster> sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig ... gave me this return ... E: Couldn't find package nvidia-xconfig
[05:22] <MushroomKingdom> but its too transparent :P my borders are trans too
[05:22] <lorecaster> anyone have a solution for me? :D
[05:23] <genii> bvance: Does command: ifconfig -a                       show an eth0 ?
[05:23] <gaurav> is intel card having troubles with 9.04 ..any solutions for it ???
[05:23] <MushroomKingdom> Can someone help me get my borders back to a solid state?
[05:23] <bvance> Yes, and its working with DHCP. But I can't make any changes to it.
[05:24] <bvance> I need to have eth0 as Static IP, and particular DNS.
[05:24] <devilsadvocate> gaurav: this is going to sound strange. shut off compositing and use it for a few hours. after that, reboot. turn on compositing. xorg will continue to eat cpu, but responsiveness will increas
[05:25] <gaurav> how to shut off compositing?
[05:25] <devilsadvocate> gaurav: there is no viable explanation why that should work, but thats what i did
[05:25] <gaurav> i am naive to such things
[05:25] <devilsadvocate> gaurav: turn off desktop effects
[05:25] <gaurav> okk
[05:25] <gaurav> i will do that
[05:25] <gaurav> what about KNetworkManager?
[05:25] <MushroomKingdom> Hey devil, got it working :) but my borders are transparent too :P
[05:26] <gaurav> how can i bring it back to the system taskbar?
[05:26] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: thats because of your kwin decorations
[05:26] <MushroomKingdom> ahh how do I stop that
[05:26] <devilsadvocate> gaurav: there is a plasmoid called network manager or something. add that to the panel
[05:26] <gaurav> its misisng from my Start menu
[05:27] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: change your decorations. i dont remember where it is, i think right click on desktop > appearence > select theme
[05:27] <devilsadvocate> gaurav: what is a start menu?
[05:27] <gaurav> but ..it is working shown in the task manager
[05:27] <Operator_> Hi could you please help me to install my genius 1320 webcam?
[05:27] <gaurav> the application menu!
[05:27] <gaurav> Big 'K'!
[05:27] <p_quarles> gaurav: it's a plasmoid; it's in the plasma menu, not the applications menu
[05:27] <gaurav> i am corresponding with windows actually
[05:27] <gaurav> ohh
[05:27] <devilsadvocate> gaurav: it
[05:28] <gaurav> okk
[05:28] <devilsadvocate> gaurav: if you want it in the menu it'll proabbly be in system settings somewhere
[05:28] <MushroomKingdom> I dont see decorations
[05:28] <Mannequin> hi. after upgrading to 9.04, the "scrollbar zone" (not sure the name) on the touchpad became rather big
[05:28] <devilsadvocate> gaurav: that is the logical place for it to be
[05:28] <gaurav> ok
[05:28] <gaurav> let me see
[05:28] <Mannequin> like, half of the touchpad is working as "scroll zone"
[05:28] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: there will be something called theme, default is probably elegance or oxygen or some such thing
[05:28] <MushroomKingdom> I have mine on tragedy
[05:29] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: that is probaby the source of the transparant window borders
[05:29] <doleyb> Mannequin: Try playing with gsynaptics and maybe you can fix it.
[05:29] <MushroomKingdom> Hmm
[05:29] <MushroomKingdom> thats only my desktop theme though
[05:30] <Mannequin> doleyb: thanks, will try it
[05:30] <gaurav> yeah
[05:30] <gaurav> speed is up for sure
[05:30] <MushroomKingdom> ohhh I figured it out
[05:31] <gaurav> i wonder what they have put in the Desktop Effects
[05:31] <MushroomKingdom> I had an effect that made windows transparent
[05:31] <MushroomKingdom> thank you so much you've solved all my problems!
[05:34] <MushroomKingdom> woot woot
[05:34] <mermshaus> pong
[05:35] <Operator_> Help please! Does anybody know how to install Genius 1320 webcam in Kubuntu?
[05:35] <OxDeadC0de> in case anyone is curious I figured it out locate --regex ".*\(ttf\)$" | xargs -i -t -l1 cp {\} ./
[05:35] <Daskreech> MushroomKingdom: transparency?
[05:35] <__lEo__> Genius, it's not recognized?
[05:36] <doleyb> Operator_: run lsusb and see what chip it is, then go from there.  (hopefully it'll be an ov511)
[05:36] <MushroomKingdom> Its good now, its transparent :D
[05:36] <Daskreech> !webcam | Operator_
[05:36] <__lEo__> typically you don;t have to do anyghing
[05:36] <__lEo__> I mean, if a webcam is supported it justworks
[05:38] <Operator_> it is Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0c45:62bf Microdia
[05:38] <heberth> hola gente
[05:38] <Bsims{fs}>  I know why why amraok changed but would it have killed them to include a migration tool
[05:38] <dkkdkkc4> hiya
[05:39] <Bsims{fs}>  I have to rebuild my database for music now
[05:39] <heberth> alguien habla español ?
[05:39] <dkkdkkc4> ada melayu?
[05:39] <__lEo__> maybe something like cheese can help you try the cam
[05:39] <__lEo__> hola heberth
[05:40] <jerry_> Did anyone install kubuntu 9.04 and if they did how is ruuing
[05:40] <troob> !firefox
[05:40] <heberth> hola IEo
[05:40] <mermshaus> jerry_: Quite good. By which I mean: same issues as with intrepid. no bluetooth for instance.
[05:40] <__lEo__> que anda pasando :-) Me estoy por ir a dormir pero si necesitas algo
[05:40] <bvance> jerry_: Its running OK except I can't change network settings.
[05:41] <heberth> soy nuevo ene sto !
[05:41] <doleyb> Bsims{fs}: yeah I sorta looked for how to downgrade back to old amarok
[05:41] <heberth> alguien que quiera hablar sobre hackin ?
[05:41] <jerry_> ok thank- not so hot yet
[05:41] <doleyb> Bsims{fs}: but instead I looped the same one song all day long.
[05:41] <heberth> hacking
[05:41] <heberth> speek hacking
[05:42] <heberth> hablar sobre hacking
[05:42] <doleyb> !es|heberth
[05:42] <doleyb> bvance: did you put in the network plasmoid?
[05:42] <jerry_> Im using kubuntu 8.04
[05:43] <david_k-cfd> Hello everyone.....anyone can help me?
[05:44] <david_k-cfd> I am really having it with my webcam
[05:44] <bvance> doleyb: Don't know what that is, but I do have a network status indicator on the systray. It shows one wired connection, which does not show in the system settings panel.
[05:44] <david_k-cfd> any easy way to install it?
[05:45] <doleyb> david_k-cfd: did you lsusb and find your camera?
[05:46] <david_k-cfd> doleyb, hello......yes, it found the camera
[05:46] <doleyb> david_k-cfd: and what happens in cheese?
[05:46] <david_k-cfd> it says No Camera Found
[05:47] <david_k-cfd> and I get the typical TV coloured stripes
[05:47] <david_k-cfd> in preferences, there isn't a camera to choose
[05:47] <doleyb> david_k-cfd: so what camera is it?
[05:48] <david_k-cfd> it is a Logitech quickcam USB
[05:48] <Bsims{fs}> doleyb: I don't want much I just want to change the layout
[05:48] <Bsims{fs}> Worst case I force it in
[05:50] <doleyb> david_k-cfd: did you follow the page? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=642015
[05:50] <Bsims{fs}> I want playlist right next to my cds in amarok how do I move it
[05:50] <doleyb> david_k-cfd: I don't know if those are good isntructions!
[05:50] <gaurav> hey
[05:50] <gaurav> amarok is not supported by 9.04?
[05:51] <sep1318> gaurav: it should be....even installed by default...
[05:51] <david_k-cfd> no, I didn't try those.....(I have kubuntu)............but I can give it a go. It's just that I'm a bit tired of reading and following so many other posts......I never thought it was going to be so complicated
[05:51] <doleyb> gaurav: they have replaced it with amarok2 now
[05:52] <gaurav> yeah
[05:52] <gaurav> i saw it
[05:52] <doleyb> Bsims{fs}: amarok2 uses a plasmoid thingy for moving stuff.   You can right-click and get a menu to remove sections, or add them.
[05:53] <Bsims{fs}> eww but OK
[05:53] <doleyb> Bsims{fs}: yeah i don't like it either!
[05:54] <Bsims{fs}> doleyb: where do I click
[05:54] <bokey> david_k-cfd: what logitech is this?
[05:54] <bokey> which
[05:54] <david_k-cfd> bokey: it is a quickcam USB
[05:54] <doleyb> Bsims{fs}: oh i can't tell, maybe you can ask #kde people
[05:54] <bokey> david_k-cfd: 'lspci | grep Log'
[05:55]  * Bsims{fs} weeps blood it should be a fraking drag and drop as God intended
[05:55] <hani_> Hello
[05:55] <hani_> i am Hani
[05:55] <hani_> i want install gnome
[05:55] <hani_> help me plz
[05:55] <doleyb> hani_: what is your language?
[05:55] <faileas> Bsims{fs}: god uses command line ;)
[05:56] <hani_> Persian sorry :D
[05:56] <david_k-cfd> bokey: I don't get anything from that command, but I do get "Bus 002 Device 004: ID 046d:0840 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Express" by typing lsusb
[05:56] <bokey> hani_: aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[05:56] <doleyb> hani_: turkey?
[05:56] <bokey> david_k-cfd: oh yeah lsusb ;)
[05:57] <hani_> no :))
[05:57] <bokey> david_k-cfd: try http://nepbabu.livejournal.com/15650.html see how it goes
[05:57] <bokey> david_k-cfd: basically gspca is built right in Ubuntu these days but give it a manual shot anyhow
[05:58] <Bsims{fs}> faileas: I am typing this in irssi under GNU Screen on a urxvt brand xterm you were saying?
[05:58] <Bsims{fs}> Oh and the last bit recorded from God was :wq
[05:58] <faileas> Bsims{fs}: Ahh, a true belieever ;p
[05:59] <Bsims{fs}> faileas: I've been Linux full time from 1999
[05:59] <Bsims{fs}> If I wanted to mess with it I'd go back to Debian... at least it works between upgrades, though this was my smoothest one ever
[06:00] <genii> david_k-cfd: http://jmdsdf.yi.org/blog/index.php/2009/02/17/quickcam-express-046d-0840-in-ubuntu-jau-28
[06:00]  * Bsims{fs} grins my other two terms under this screen are slrn, under my own bash wrapper script... and links2 reading a ebookk
[06:01] <bokey> genii: so theres qc-usb already nice.
[06:01]  * genii hands bokey a coffee
[06:01] <faileas> bleh
[06:01]  * faileas notes tilda rather sucks compared to yakuake
[06:02] <david_k-cfd> genii: that looks very promising
[06:02]  * bokey takes it :)
[06:02] <david_k-cfd> genii: I'm on it
[06:02] <bokey> david_k-cfd: give genii one a shot
[06:03] <david_k-cfd> bokey: yeah, it looks good, doesn't it? I'm on it, will get back to you to report how it worked
[06:03] <bokey> david_k-cfd: should work pretty sure
[06:04] <g33knik> does anyone wanna give a semi newb some quick support with a lsb question?
[06:06] <doleyb> !ask|g33knik
[06:08] <g33knik> I am installing an embedded development environment that says it requires lsb 1.0, do i need to worry if all i did was apt-get install lsb? is there a way that I can specifically install 1.0
[06:09] <qcontinueum> where do i select a keyboard layout from?
[06:10] <doleyb> g33knik: maybe ##linux can help you.  or workingset
[06:10] <doleyb> qcontinueum: system settings, regional & language, keyboard layout
[06:11] <qcontinueum> doleyb: ah, there it is. Thanks!
[06:11] <MushroomKingdom> How do I uninstall things? cd to the dir and rm?
[06:12] <doleyb> MushroomKingdom: lol it depends on how you installed it, but using rm is probably the wrong answer.
[06:12] <MushroomKingdom> ah
[06:12] <MushroomKingdom> I installed it though apt-get
[06:12] <g33knik> thanks doleyb
[06:12] <doleyb> MushroomKingdom: then that's how you uninstall.  Instead of apt-get install, apt-get remove
[06:12] <MushroomKingdom> ah
[06:12] <MushroomKingdom> thank you
[06:18] <digdeep> hi, Is there any complete guide on converting ext3 to ext4?
[06:19] <david_k-cfd> genii: do you know what's the deal with the patches? there's a comment there that says they're not required
[06:22] <genii> david_k-cfd: From the bug report: "This bug was fixed in the package qc-usb - 0.6.6-6ubuntu1"
[06:22] <david_k-cfd> genii: I think I need them, 'cause when I run "make" I get plenty of errors
[06:22] <genii> david_k-cfd: What version does your:  apt-cache policy qc-usb                          report?
[06:22] <david_k-cfd> genii: but I don't even know what to download from the patches links
[06:23] <gosse> what was the apt-get for extra printer drivers? 465cn for example?
[06:23] <gosse> perdy pls?
[06:23] <genii> !info qv-usb jaunty
[06:23] <genii> !info qc-usb jaunty
[06:23] <genii> Hm
[06:23] <gosse> hey there genii :D
[06:23] <genii> Probably in -proposed or so
[06:23] <david_k-cfd> genii: it returns "W: Unable to locate package qc-usb"
[06:24] <gosse> genii: (gosse = lorecaster)
[06:24]  * genii slides gosse a coffee
[06:24] <genii> david_k-cfd: Give me a minute to look into it
[06:24] <david_k-cfd> genii: that's very kind from you, thanks
[06:25] <gosse> david_k-cfd: i cannot speak for everyone's experience, but genii is a blessing...
[06:26] <david_k-cfd> gosse: well, no matter what, he is pointing me in the right direction....already thankful for his help
[06:27] <qcontinueum> how do i go about installing vmware?
[06:27] <gosse> david_k-cfd: there are many wonderful people here, genii, aga, devilsadvocate, and others... they saved me from two strokes already, i'm sure.
[06:28] <MushroomKingdom> gosse: agreed. My ass was saved so many times on this board thanks to the l33t linux users :D
[06:28] <qcontinueum> ditto!
[06:28] <gosse> cheers to that~!
[06:29] <MushroomKingdom> now my system looks bad ass
[06:29] <MushroomKingdom> mmm yea
[06:29] <genii> david_k-cfd: packages.ubuntu.com   reports only two packages qith keywords of "qc-usb" ... qc-usb-source   and qc-usb-utils    The qc-usb-source version is reported as 0.6.6-6ubuntu2 which seems correct to the bug report. Repository is Universe
[06:29] <gosse> i never felt as though my computer ever reached it's potential under a M$ flag
[06:29] <MushroomKingdom> agreed
[06:30] <genii> david_k-cfd: What reports for version:    apt-cache policy qc-usb-source                    ?
[06:30] <MushroomKingdom> Actually though, me having a fullout linux os was an accident. A sexy accident :)
[06:30] <billytwowilly> hey, is there any webpage explaining what is in all the ubuntu/kubuntu ppas?
[06:30] <david_k-cfd> genii: it reports this:
[06:30] <david_k-cfd> genni: qc-usb-source:
[06:30] <david_k-cfd>   Installed: 0.6.6-6ubuntu2
[06:30] <david_k-cfd>   Candidate: 0.6.6-6ubuntu2
[06:30] <david_k-cfd>   Version table:
[06:30] <david_k-cfd>  *** 0.6.6-6ubuntu2 0
[06:30] <david_k-cfd>         500 http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/universe Packages
[06:30] <david_k-cfd>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[06:31] <RurouniJones> Welp, so far 9.04 looks shiny but bits have crashed already and it seems a bit less responsive than 8.04 with KDE 3.5
[06:31] <genii> Hm
[06:32] <perseid> I have the resolution set to 1600x1200, but when I log in the res os 2048x1536 until I go into the Display settings at which poinht it suddenly snaps back to 1600x1200.
[06:32] <gosse> i hate kde anyway, gnome is lighting-fast comparatively
[06:37] <billytwowilly> Sorry, I got logged out. Did anyone answer my question about PPA's? Is there any page that summarizes what is in all of them?
[06:37] <qcontinueum> nobody mentioned anything, sorry
[06:37] <gosse> never came up, billytwowilly
[06:37] <Geekguy> bokey: yo, i was able to figure out a way to get my system to boot (ATI Radeon issue)
[06:37] <gosse> oh?
[06:37] <billytwowilly> I'm still getting the hang of this quassel thing.
[06:38] <billytwowilly> maybe it didn't send before I got logged out.
[06:38]  * daskreech imagines MushroomKingdom rubbing transparency over himself
[06:38] <qcontinueum> [23:30] <billytwowilly> hey, is there any webpage explaining what is in all the ubuntu/kubuntu ppas?
[06:38] <qcontinueum> i got it :P
[06:38] <gosse> uhh.. dask?
[06:38] <gosse> that was more than a little wierd... don't ever change ;)
[06:38] <billytwowilly> then the question still stands. Is there any webpage that summarizes what is in all the ppa's?
[06:38] <daskreech> assuming that MushroomKingdom is a he :)
[06:39] <david_k-cfd> genii: I could download the patches, but to be honest, I don't know what to download from those links
[06:39] <daskreech> billytwowilly: Launchpad ?
[06:39] <genii> david_k-cfd: I'm also having some problem compiling it here (using module-assistant)
[06:40] <billytwowilly> daskreech: how do I get launchpad to summarize that?
[06:40] <daskreech> billytwowilly: As in waht's in all the PPAs?
[06:40] <daskreech> You probably don't want that
[06:40] <billytwowilly> yes, please.
[06:40] <daskreech> Almost assuredly you don't want that
[06:40] <gosse> BTW... add daskreech to the list of angels on this board.
[06:40] <billytwowilly> yes, what I really want is to know the gyst of what each guy is packaging.
[06:41] <daskreech> then you want a list of PPAs not a listing of whats in the PPAs
[06:41] <daskreech> A lot are duplicates
[06:41]  * geek_ tends to think you tend to find PPAs when you need to know it. Each PPA has its own webpage tho
[06:41] <david_k-cfd> genii: do you think it is a 9.04 problem?
[06:41] <billytwowilly> ok, a list of the ppas then.
[06:41] <perseid> After upgrading to 9.04 all of my NTFS partitions, even the USB drives magically work. Nifty.
[06:41] <billytwowilly> I found one list, but thhe names aren't obvious. (i.e they are named after the guy who is maintaining them)
[06:42] <daskreech> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ ?
[06:43] <billytwowilly> I found that.  Doesn't really tell me a lot.
[06:43] <billytwowilly> I don't know what abogani is, but I would guess it is the dude who maintains the ppa.
[06:44] <genii> david_k-cfd: Seems to also be in Debian, I found a bug report of theirs with the same issue. Seems to be kernel related
[06:45] <daskreech> billytwowilly: Right
[06:45] <SandGorgon> hmmm.. KDE4 port of konversation is already more usable than qassel
[06:45] <geek_> SandGorgon: neat ;p
[06:45]  * geek_ needs to try it at some point
[06:45] <daskreech> SandGorgon: You make it sound like that's surprising
[06:45] <carthik_> anyone with a thinkpad t500 on jaunty? want to know if the intel x4500 graphics card has issues with virtualscreen size
[06:45] <gosse> as it happens... i -love- konversation.
[06:45] <SandGorgon> daskreech: relieved...
[06:46] <qcontinueum> how do i got about installing vmware? "apt-get install vmware" doesn't do it...
[06:46] <geek_> ditto
[06:46] <gosse> it's a mind-numbingly beautiful program, it's even robin-proof!!! :D
[06:46] <geek_> qcontinueum: there should be instructions on the vmware site. You;ll need to get the tarball
[06:46] <SandGorgon> gosse: thank god for that
[06:46] <gosse> LOL
[06:46] <gosse> tired of me already sandgorgon?
[06:46] <gosse> saucy-face ;)
[06:47] <SandGorgon> gosse: oh no... getting rid of quassel has gotten me into a sweet mood already
[06:47] <geek_> SandGorgon: where did you get it from?
[06:47] <gosse> sandgorgon, now i've heard good things about quassel... but like all things, reports are mixed. it's all about personal experiences...
[06:47] <SandGorgon> http://packages.debian.org/experimental/konversation
[06:48] <gosse> forexample... it's sadistic how difficult it's been getting autocad to work for ANYTHING in linux... but 3-4 weeks later, still plugging away at it ;) resorted to RECOMPILING (as per directions) wine!
[06:48] <SandGorgon> gosse: true... just wanted something that is better configurable for colors - my eyes are notoriously finicky
[06:49] <gosse> SandGorgon; as a dyslexic migrain sufferer... i've had a great deal of fun trying to make the pain stop hurting
[06:49] <carthik_> if you make pain stop hurting, let me know
[06:49] <xevious> does 9.04 still use compiz for desktop effects, or does it use the native KDE effects?
[06:49] <qcontinueum> xevious: i believe that the effects are nativ
[06:50] <daskreech> xevious: It never used compiz for desktop effects
[06:50] <gosse> carthik_ i'm wiccan, but yet still not THAT magickal ;)
[06:50] <carthik_> :)
[06:50] <xevious> daskreech: hardy uses compiz-fusion if you enable them
[06:50] <billytwowilly>  SandGorgon:  quassel is the superior idea, but it's rough now. It's annoying the crap out of me.
[06:51] <gosse> Quassel... a superior laxitive, neat!
[06:51] <carthik_> anyone with a thinkpad t500 on jaunty? want to know if the intel x4500 graphics card has issues with virtualscreen size
[06:51] <gosse> annoying the crap out of you... would that cause bowel irritation? -giggles-
[06:51] <xevious> can you stack panels in kde 4?
[06:51] <raylu> billytwowilly: agreed
[06:52] <xevious> (it's essential for me being able to compensate for my hdtv's overscan without making it scale 1080p video
[06:52] <SandGorgon> billytwowilly: agreed
[06:54] <bobby1234> my wifi is not being authenticated properly in kubuntu 9.04
[06:54] <bobby1234> what do i do?
[06:54] <bobby1234> any suggestion?
[06:54] <bobby1234> !wifi
[06:55] <cspack> network manager still doesn't work as far i'm concerned, had to install wicd again to get my wireless working
[06:55] <billytwowilly> hey, did anyone  else upgrading from 8.10  have 9.04 completely break their software raid5? I got it fixed now, but it was annoying.
[06:55] <geek__> Sweeet
[06:57] <SandGorgon> billytwowilly: how is wicd performing as compared to network-manager? is it integrated in the panel, play nice with notifications, suspend/resume ?
[06:58] <billytwowilly> SandGorgon: I don't know, I don't use it as far as I know.
[06:58] <gosse> it's taking a dogs-eternity to do the 'make' for this compile of wine-git... jeez... gotta have been a half hour at least... didn't even do the 'make-install' yet :P
[06:58] <faileas> yup. the KDE4 konversation branch rocks
[06:58] <doleyb> bobby1234: and make sure you put on the network plasmoid, of course
[06:58] <cspack> yes wicd is integrated in the panel and works fine with suspend/resume for me
[06:59] <SandGorgon> billytwowilly: hmm.. i thought you used wicd. network-manager is really not nice :(
[06:59] <billytwowilly> I don't know. I use whatever I had setup when I upgraded. i don't use wireless, so networking hasn't been a big thing of importance for me.
[07:00] <nitr0ix> is there anyway to disable Trash in kde?
[07:00] <david_k-cfd> genii: do you think it can be solved or will be a matter of waiting for updates?
[07:00] <gosse> here's a question... to set up my dual monitors before, i had to sudo nvidia-settings, but it tells me to do sudo nvidia-xconfig, then it says it's not installed... sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig tells me it cannot find the install material... where do i get it?
[07:01] <doleyb> gosse: just run nvidia-settings with no sudo?
[07:01] <daskreech> Yes
[07:01] <gosse> doleyb, i cannot change any settings in nvidia-settings without sudo... won't let me change the config in the program
[07:01] <doleyb> so what happens when you run nvidia-settings?
[07:01] <gosse> tells me to run nvidia-xconfig
[07:02] <genii> david_k-cfd: Right now I have no immediate answer. So I'd recommend waiting on an update, unless you want to just experiment.
[07:02] <nitr0ix> just run nvidia-xconfig its included with nvidia drivers
[07:02] <genii> It's after 2AM here, so I'm shortly /away for sleeping ....
[07:03] <doleyb> gosse: are you sure you've got nvidia drivers in properly?
[07:03] <bokey> pheww
[07:03] <david_k-cfd> genii: nah, I don't feel like experimenting....esp with this things, I'll have to wait then.....but hey, many thanks for your help, very nice from you
[07:03] <gosse> doleyb, perhaps not? when i finsih this work with wine, i'll try that...
[07:03] <bokey> http://vimeo.com/4281374 :)
[07:03] <bokey> nice remix
[07:04] <genii> david_k-cfd: np
[07:04] <bokey> and 4.2.2 is finally working with flash
[07:05] <nitr0ix> is there anyway that you could sort all wallpapers from "Get new wallpaper"  by resoulution?
[07:06] <SandGorgon> in KDE, i frequently have any text on screen (whether in cmd-shell, or window title, etc.) get distorted - I have to shut off compositing (alt-shift-f12) and turn it on to get rid of the distortion. Any idea, on how to debug this ?
[07:06] <daskreech> nitr0ix: In code :)
[07:06] <nitr0ix> i meant without messing with the source...
[07:09] <nitr0ix> whens kde 4.3 will be implemented to ubuntu?
[07:10] <nitr0ix> anyways.......disable trash completely....possible?
[07:12] <doleyb> Some of this jaunty graphical corruption is hilarious!  I just clicked on the network plasmoid, and in a konsole my wallpaper chunk appeared on the text... and then scrolled up as the text went by.
[07:13] <nitr0ix> lol chill ubuntu does not have 18 months of testing like debian does ;)
[07:13] <faileas> nitr0ix: debian releases are out... 'when they are ready' ;p
[07:14] <nitr0ix> yeah but lenny have been tested for 18 months before its renamed to Stable ;p
[07:14] <gosse> when i last tried debian, perhaps it was just that particular distro, it was command-prompt only... is debian as stable as the rumours say AND with gnome?
[07:15] <nitr0ix> meh think of it...software is old tho
[07:15] <troob> lol I just did "zoom out" from the thing in the upper right corner.
[07:15] <faileas> gosse: the issue i had with debian stable at the time was etch was anchient
[07:15]  * faileas ran lenny for a while, then swapped to ubuntu server
[07:16] <gosse> what are the virtues of running server? does it have -any- use for a desktop?
[07:16] <nitr0ix> yeah i tryed that but my sound was all choppy then got back to lenny...and figured out that i had to compile latest realtek drivers....
[07:16] <faileas> gosse: hmm, in my case, it was a CLI only system ;)
[07:17] <faileas> nitr0ix: i had to recompile alsa for a box with crystal audio sound
[07:17] <faileas> which is anchient
[07:17] <doleyb> gosse: lol when did you use debian?  1992?
[07:17] <gosse> cli?
[07:17] <bobby1234> doleyb, its detecting the network, but not accepting the passwd .. wht to do?
[07:17] <nitr0ix> dang how do you type to some person in konversation? lols
[07:17] <perseid> bokey:  How did you get Flash to work?
[07:17] <faileas> gosse: no point running x on a server
[07:17] <gosse> either very late 90's or very aerly 2000's... it was -years- ago... maybe it's just my ignorance again... nasty thing, that.
[07:18] <faileas> nitr0ix: just enough letters and tab ;p
[07:18] <doleyb> faileas: uh, if you're running x that Makes it a server :)
[07:18] <faileas> doleyb: as a role ;p
[07:18]  * faileas has a box mainly for mucking around with. LAMP stack, eventually IRC
[07:18] <dynja> %) download almost complete
[07:18] <Cannonaide320> hello
[07:18] <faileas> though i'm tempted to swap it for a cheap atom system
[07:18] <doleyb> gosse: Well debian has everything.  I mean, debian is like 37 cds.  it has kde, gnome, and everything slightly like that.
[07:19] <bokey> perseid: i removed all plugins, reinstalled flash from adobe's website, upgraded to konqueror 4.2.2 on KDE4.2.2
[07:19] <faileas> 37 cds = whole repo
[07:19] <faileas> all you REALLY need is cd 1
[07:19] <doleyb> faileas: yes, but debian's apt-get can fetch you approximately everything you've heard of.
[07:19] <doleyb> faileas: except firefox! haha
[07:20] <nitr0ix> in debian firefox is iceweasel
[07:20] <nitr0ix> ;0
[07:20] <faileas> doleyb: i find debians... ideological purity occationally annoying
[07:20] <perseid> bokey: 64 bit or 32 bit?
[07:21] <bokey> perseid: 32
[07:21] <nitr0ix> i heard that they made flash for 64bit? is it true? without using pluginwrapper?
[07:21] <perseid> Ah. I couldn't find a 64 bit Linux Flash.
[07:22] <nitr0ix> i think i've read somewher ein adobe's site that they did 64bit plugin for linux i was like wtf!
[07:22] <dynja> which version is better for core2 quad: amd64 or 86
[07:22] <dynja> or there is no difference
[07:23] <yaa_> ?
[07:23] <nitr0ix> if you have less than 4gigs of ram no difference....allmost
[07:23] <yaa_> only 2? but going to add some more
[07:24] <nitr0ix> well only diffrence that i've seen is that 64bit sees more then 4gigs of ram
[07:24] <Cannonaide320> does anyone happen to know (and would be willing to share such info) where to find the MD5 hash for Kubuntu 9.0.4 i386 for the dvd version ?
[07:25] <marcello> ciao a tutti
[07:25] <nitr0ix> i've betrayed linux...i've installed vista yesterday...SP1....it lasted for 1 hour...then got removed...lucky i didnt buy it ...
[07:26] <yaa_> nitr0ix: thanx
[07:27] <yaa_> vista musdie
[07:27] <nitr0ix> true that
[07:27] <troob> !sound
[07:27] <nitr0ix> i quess i got used to linux....vista feels tooo slow
[07:29] <Cannonaide320> vista works pretty well in 64 bit if you have the hardware for it, but thats a lot of hardware investment,  I have one rig running it for games, everything else is going to Kubuntu 9.0.4
[07:29] <troob> lol make sure "enable sound system" is checked
[07:29] <nitr0ix> tho still kubuntu feels abit slower than arch...
[07:30] <nitr0ix> Windows seven even in beta is liek what 5 times faster and stable than vista...but ehm don't like ide of stealing kde loook
[07:30] <nitr0ix> idea*
[07:31] <faileas> lol
[07:31] <faileas> imitiation is the sincerest form of flattery ;)
[07:31] <nitr0ix> yeah...
[07:32] <faileas> besides looks arn't everything
[07:32] <nitr0ix> now the need amarok2 so it would replace WMP
[07:32] <nitr0ix> they*
[07:32] <faileas> lol
[07:32] <faileas> amarok2 is kde4
[07:32] <perseid> foobar2000
[07:32] <nitr0ix> well for me it all about look...
[07:32] <faileas> and will run on windows
[07:32] <faileas> not for me
[07:33] <bokey> perseid: 64-bit archs should have no problem running 32-bit code since they are backward compatible. are you sure your configs(flash,konqueror,kde) are good?
[07:33] <perseid> foobar is the way to go on Windows.
[07:33] <perseid> bokey: I only saw one version fo download and the .deb wouldn't even install.
[07:33] <Mushroom> Hm.. I dont get sound though any video in firefox...
[07:34] <yaa_> has anybody seen kde or gnome over ms windows?
[07:34] <nitr0ix> meh.....need to install wine now...got my 3 months free COH.......
[07:34] <gosse> what is the command to copy a file from current location to a given ~./ location?
[07:34] <nitr0ix> i heard that kde got ported to Mac but not windows..
[07:34] <yaa_> cp
[07:34] <nitr0ix> mv?
[07:34] <bokey> perseid: get the binary from adobe and try that.
[07:34] <gosse> cp? thx
[07:35] <perseid> That's where I got the .deb from.
[07:35] <Mushroom> How do I get sound on my videos in firefox?
[07:35] <bokey> perseid: chuck that into your ~/.mozilla/plugins and rescan in Konqueror. versions < 4.2.2 (on kde4.2.2) have failed to run as my adventure has shown.
[07:35] <Cannonaide320> flash stuff, and typically quicktime default to zero volume,  click the volume icon on the video
[07:35] <Fieldy> i'm trying to update to 9.04 from 8.10, following the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu . I get an error that says "Unable to get exclusive lock. This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) is already running. Please close that application first." i did a ps auwxxx | grep apt and neither of those is running. how do I get past this?
[07:36] <bokey> perseid: get the source (.tar.gz)
[07:36] <nitr0ix> is the "cp" and "mv" same?
[07:36] <bokey> no
[07:36] <yaa_> no
[07:36] <yaa_> moves and copies
[07:36] <Mushroom> doesnt help cannon, volumes max
[07:36] <nitr0ix> oh
[07:36] <Cannonaide320> everything else plays ok ?
[07:37] <Mushroom> normal videos have sound, just not browser
[07:37] <bokey> Fieldy: make sure they _really_ aren't running.
[07:37] <troob> Mushroom: I'm having the same problem with firefox/sound
[07:37] <Mushroom> troob: yeah actually I find theres alot of sound related problems with kubuntu so far
[07:38] <bokey> Fieldy: ps -A | egrep "adept|synaptic|apt-get|aptitude"
[07:38] <Fieldy> bokey: no results
[07:38] <bokey> once that is done, if still reports the same, delete the lock.
[07:38] <Fieldy> okay, where is the lock?
[07:39] <bokey> Fieldy: lemme see. wait it is somehwere in /var/cache/apt
[07:39] <Fieldy> i'll see if i can find it
[07:39] <bokey> Fieldy: yeah do that
[07:39] <Fieldy> bokey: /var/cache/apt/archives/lock ?
[07:39] <troob> mush: is your speaker icon in flash shown as red?
[07:39] <bokey> Fieldy: yep
[07:39] <Fieldy> curious. that was created over a month ago
[07:39] <Mushroom> nop
[07:40] <Fieldy> i'll remove it and try again
[07:40] <nitr0ix> so....again about the Trash anyway to disable it?
[07:40] <Mushroom> all my volume setting on the video and my sound are max
[07:40] <yaa_> var=`aptitude search flash | grep plugin | cut -d ' ' -f 4 `; sudo apt-get install $var
[07:40] <yaa_> will install flash plugins
[07:40] <yaa_> )
[07:41] <Fieldy> bokey: unfortunately, i'm still getting the error, i'll poke around for other lock files
[07:41] <Trog> hi all, I use jackcontrol "sound server" for my midi keyboard, but can't seem to get it working with "jaunty" anyone else the same?
[07:41] <bokey> Fieldy: can you paste the exact error again?
[07:42] <Fieldy> bokey: "Unable to get exclusive lock. This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) is already running. Please close that application first."
[07:42] <perseid> bokey: Copy the .so to /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.9/plugins?
[07:42] <nitr0ix> reboot?
[07:43] <bokey> perseid: ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[07:43] <Mushroom> troob: fixed it, just sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:43] <bokey> Fieldy: hang on
[07:43] <Mushroom> now sound works :D
[07:43] <perseid> Well, I made that harder than it was. LOL
[07:43] <Fieldy> bokey: sure
[07:43] <troob> Mushroom: I'll give that a try
[07:43] <Mushroom> :D
[07:44] <Trog> anyone else use jack sound server, it seems to be connected to most of the midi or multi track programs, so I have to get it workin = )
[07:45] <bokey> Fieldy: ok do the manual way to see whats keeping it open: in terminal sudo lsof | grep "/var/cache"
[07:46] <bokey> perseid: make sure you rescan the plugin directories in konqueror
[07:47] <brand0con> anyone use banshee?
[07:47] <bokey> yep i have in the paste
[07:47] <bokey> past
[07:47] <sweet> кто нить по русски шпрехает??
[07:47] <nitr0ix> нет
[07:48] <Fieldy> bokey: okay there are a few results and i'm poking around, i'll see what i can figure out
[07:48] <brand0con> trying to get multimedia keys to work with banshee in kde.  anyone know how to do it?  already downloaded remoot
[07:48] <perseid> bokey: It doesn't work.I'm pretty sure it has to be a 64-bit version.
[07:48] <sweet> хотел бы услышать мнение о Kubuntu 9.04
[07:49] <bokey> Английский пожалуйста
[07:49] <bokey> Fieldy: yep
[07:49] <Fieldy> bokey: the only suspicious thing i found was "jaunty    22987       root  mem       REG        8,4  12408560    1630329 /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin" which i have killed off ; trying again.
[07:49] <bokey> perseid: hrmm ok
[07:49] <bokey> sure
[07:55] <Fieldy> bokey: that cleared it up, thank you for the time and support :)
[07:55] <rohan> is this improvement - adding spacers - available in kde 4.2.2 of kubuntu 9.04? http://www.notmart.org/index.php/Software/Make_some_space
[07:55] <bokey> Fieldy: sure no worries
[07:55] <gigasoft> i can not execute sh file, any help
[07:56] <gosse> #winehq
[07:56] <gosse> sry
[07:57] <bokey> gigasoft: sh ./file;
[07:58] <AzAel> hi all, just done the juanty upgrade and now my picture frames dont work
[07:59] <perseid> In case anyone is curious: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html 64 bit Flash 10
[07:59] <gosse> how would i go about getting "x-mswinurl decoder"? involves running mp3's
[07:59] <bokey> perseid: argh.. had completely forgotten that one
[07:59] <bokey> :D
[07:59] <perseid> Watching a strongbad email as we speak. :)
[08:00] <bokey> gosse: that looks like mime header
[08:00] <bokey> perseid: :)
[08:01] <bokey> perseid: check this out: http://vimeo.com/4281374
[08:02] <bokey> pretty amazing shot
[08:04] <Nakkel> How do I get GPG backend to work in Jauntys Kmail?
[08:04] <gosse> bokey, that doesn't help me much :P
[08:06] <bokey> gosse: not sure there
[08:06] <bokey> sorry
[08:06] <gosse> pfft :P
[08:06] <gosse> if that's the worst thing that happens to me tonight... ;)
[08:06] <peaches> does ctrl+alt+backspace work any more in 9.04 X
[08:06] <gosse> not natively, peaches.
[08:07] <gosse> i missed it too ;)
[08:07] <peaches> what do you mean?
[08:07] <gosse> you have to turn it back on.
[08:07] <peaches> ok i need to do that
[08:07] <gosse> me too :P i'd love to know how, but i've forgotten.
[08:07] <peaches> did you turn your on
[08:07] <gosse> about 3 formats ago... had some MAJOR problems with my graphics card
[08:08] <peaches> i'm also missing right-clicks.. theyre going into some empty voide randomly...
[08:08] <StR|Sangreal> zdravím
[08:08] <gosse> maybe you're using a mac ;)
[08:08] <StR|Sangreal> i have just installed jaunty and have some issues to cope with
[08:08] <peaches> i wouldnt be caught dead with a mac haha
[08:09] <peaches> StR|Sangreal: welcome to the club
[08:09] <gosse> mac users sometimes come off as pretencious on commercials... but the systems are solid
[08:09] <bokey> !topic
[08:09] <StR|Sangreal> 1. after first crash, it doesnt start my HDA intel audio driver, but fades to pulseaudio
[08:09] <StR|Sangreal> 2. i dont have the WYSIWYG grub editor anymore
[08:10] <StR|Sangreal> 3. i still get VIDEO GARBAGE!!!
[08:10] <StR|Sangreal> 4. and it freezes a lot indeed :-/
[08:10] <StR|Sangreal> some advice please?
[08:11] <StR|Sangreal> please, how can i reload my audio?
[08:12] <bokey> StR|Sangreal: you can try alsa
[08:12] <faileas> StR|Sangreal: might try sudo alsa force-reload
[08:12] <demytry> channell it?
[08:13] <bokey> !it > demytry
[08:13] <igauz> yeah
[08:14] <igauz> 9.04 is gr8
[08:14] <igauz> things are a bit misplaced
[08:14] <igauz> overall fast enough
[08:16] <StR|Sangreal> ... fifth hard restart within last 5 minutes
[08:16] <husayn> anyone having screenshots of Kubuntu 9.04 ?
[08:16] <husayn> I m using 8.04 right now !!!
[08:16] <bokey> StR|Sangreal: so your X is locking up yeah?
[08:17] <peaches> did 9.04 have X upgrade
[08:17] <StR|Sangreal> please, anytime i start amarok, the system crashes... how can i reset the whole amarok?
[08:18] <tacosarecool> hello
[08:18] <husayn> reinstall amarok ?
[08:19] <tacosarecool> kubuntu is unusable to me because I have ubuntu and kubuntu installed but the kde is stuck at the splash screen
[08:22] <peaches> StR|Sangreal: delete its config file or start with different KDEHOME
[08:23] <daskreech> billttwowilly: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=
[08:24] <rufong> g'day all
[08:24] <gosse> blessed be :D
[08:24] <daskreech> hi Quintasan
[08:25] <Quintasan> daskreech: hiho
[08:25] <daskreech> yaa_: I've run KDE over Wndows
[08:25] <Quintasan> daskreech: good, I need to try it, amarok works?
[08:26] <yaa_> daskreech: how about it
[08:27] <rufong> <-jus in to check some settings. have a great day , cyas
[08:28] <daskreech> yaa_: It's weird but it works
[08:28] <daskreech> Quintasan: In Windows?
[08:28] <gosse> why does my 'system settings' seem thin... only 6 icons in the general tab, 2 in advanced?
[08:28] <Quintasan> daskreech: yup
[08:28] <daskreech> I wouldn't say that Amarok Works very well right now
[08:28] <daskreech>  It's not going to be great under windows
[08:28] <yaa_> daskreech: want to try it %)
[08:29] <Quintasan> screen-configurations.xml <-- wtf is this file?
[08:30] <gosse> anyone? anyone?
[08:35] <keymone> hi guys
[08:36] <Quintasan> keymone: hiho
[08:36] <nascentmind> hi. in kubuntu 9.04 when i click on taskbar it takes some time to register the click. why is that? i am using kde.
[08:36] <keymone> just installed 9.04 trying to enable broadcom restricted driver - it doesnt respond. pressing activate button turns driver item into grey but nothing happens. any ideas how to enable that driver?
[08:36] <mardi_soir> hello
[08:37] <mardi_soir> i m sorry
[08:37] <mardi_soir> but kubuntu is unusable
[08:37] <mardi_soir> i m not here to cry but to help
[08:37] <mardi_soir> a cant make bug report
[08:37] <mardi_soir> it's just  crazy
[08:38] <mardi_soir> (my computer works fine )
[08:38] <mardi_soir> since couple of hours i had to use magic sys -key
[08:38] <mardi_soir> in order to reboot
[08:38] <daskreech> mardi_soir: Right. What's the problem?
[08:38] <mardi_soir> while i was compiling openoffice
[08:39] <mardi_soir> daskreech: when the computer work a lot
[08:39] <mardi_soir> it seams to ... freezze
[08:39] <mardi_soir> i have a quite good configuration
[08:40] <IppatsuMan> mardi_soir: do you have an ATI video card?
[08:40] <mardi_soir> q6000 (2,4 GHz)  2 MB of ram DDR 2 800 Mhz)
[08:40] <mardi_soir> not at all
[08:40] <mardi_soir> nvidia
[08:40] <daskreech> which nvidia card?
[08:41] <mardi_soir> gigabyte 8600 512 RAM DDR2
[08:41] <keymone> also hardware drivers program does not showing nvidia driver to me
[08:41] <keymone> what is the problem?
[08:41] <mardi_soir> IppatsuMan: i want to contribute
[08:42] <gosse> how do allow the task-bar window icons to stack? i've got my (gnome) bottom taskbar
[08:42] <keymone> can i install those drivers from console?
[08:42] <gosse> i don't WANT them 48 px high, i want two rows of 24px each
[08:42] <mardi_soir> everithing seems to work fine ..
[08:42] <mardi_soir> but it does not
[08:42] <mardi_soir> i m on a powerfull
[08:42] <mardi_soir> computer
[08:42] <mardi_soir> but
[08:42] <mardi_soir> on a 1sempron on windows
[08:42] <mardi_soir> i m faster
[08:42] <mardi_soir> THATS the problem
[08:43] <daskreech> What is using your CPU?
[08:43] <IppatsuMan> gosse: right click on the taskbar, select "task manager settings" and under "Appearance" check "Force row settings"
[08:43] <mardi_soir> npviewer.bin is not a friend .. but you all already know that
[08:44] <mardi_soir> IppatsuMan: i am a kde3 user .. but becasue of life you know i have to use kububtu and .. i m quite disapointed
[08:45] <gosse> i don't get task manager settings... all i get is add to panel, properties, delete, new, help, about
[08:45] <daskreech> mardi_soir: You can use KDE3 in Jaunty
[08:45] <daskreech> !kde3
[08:46] <mardi_soir> in fact .. plasma fail when nvidia-setting  switch from a resolution to another
[08:46] <mardi_soir> sometime the irc client  go away
[08:46] <mardi_soir> and the compiz manager
[08:46] <mardi_soir> is less efficent than
[08:46] <daskreech> Kubuntu doesn't ship with Compiz
[08:46] <mardi_soir> my old kde3 + compiz
[08:47] <mardi_soir> one my gentoo
[08:47] <mardi_soir> (i m currently on kubuntu)
[08:47] <mardi_soir> (i m using twin view)
[08:47] <daskreech> Yeah win view with nvidia is kinda nasty
[08:48] <perseid> Does KDE have a minimize all windows shortcut like the Win+D shortcut on Windows?
[08:48] <mardi_soir> daskreech: how to welp i ma linux / advanced user but i have no skill to improve
[08:49] <IppatsuMan> gosse: which version of KDE are you using? You should right click on a free spot of the task manager bar
[08:49] <keymone> nobody had troubles with restricted drivers in 9.04?
[08:49] <gosse> gnome ;)
[08:49] <daskreech> perseid: alt+Ctrl+D
[08:49] <mardi_soir> K Desktop Environment
[08:49] <mardi_soir> Version 4.2.2 (KDE 4.2.2)
[08:49] <mardi_soir> on the nearly ubuntu
[08:49] <gosse> KDE is too slow... i want performance, so GNOME is the bomb
[08:49] <daskreech> mardi_soir: ok if you don't want desktop effects on you can turn them off
[08:50] <gosse> keymone, nope, i've had no problems yet.
[08:50] <IppatsuMan> gosse: sorry, I was thinking you were talking about the KDE task bar... I suppose this isn't the best channel to ask questions about GNOME
[08:51] <gosse> and my system settings only has 6 icons on the general tab, 2 in advanced... thought there was more when i was using the same 9.04 last week?
[08:51] <mardi_soir> daskreech: the fact is that i m a GNU/Linux/gentoo user .. and on my desktop kde3.5 works very ver y fine ( very quik no freeze since many years ) .. i just tryed today ubuntu with the ubuntserver flavor then i put kubuntu-destop .. and it 's quit e unusable
[08:51] <gosse> IppatsuMan, no worries... i've only come here for my general problems, usually it's okay. thanks for the effort.
[08:52] <daskreech> mardi_soir: well would you like to use KDE3 then?
[08:52] <gosse> i remember i went into the system setings, advanced tab, and changed which programs i wanted on startup
[08:53] <mardi_soir> daskreech: i m not a end user .. my own computer works fine one kde3 .. but i have no skill i m just trying to help
[08:53] <mardi_soir> how can i do
[08:53] <mardi_soir> in order to improve
[08:53] <mardi_soir> kde4 :)
[08:53] <mardi_soir> im not dev
[08:54] <daskreech> Well we need to know what's wrong :)
[08:54] <rubinho> hello andybody who can help in upmixing 2.0 sound to 5.1
[08:54] <daskreech> Your nvidia drivers might be off
[08:54] <daskreech> I know that Twinview has had problems on some cards
[08:55] <david__> hi
[08:55] <mardi_soir> daskreech: ok .. il try another wah but know that the same computer works fine on a (entoo + kde3 + compiz  )
[08:55] <mardi_soir> g
[08:55] <mardi_soir> ill
[08:56] <daskreech> mardi_soir: try and turn off desktop effects to see if that makes a big difference
[08:56] <david__> I install the g++ compiler from the Adept but it doesnt appear at any place why?
[08:56] <daskreech> alt+F3 -> Window properties -> desktop effects
[08:56] <david__> some one knows how to use it?
[08:56] <gosse> david_, may have to reboot :D i find that helps, or logout-login
[08:56] <mardi_soir> daskreech:  ok i will ..
[08:57] <david__> thanks but I rebbot already
[08:57] <david__> nothing happens
[08:57] <gosse> sorry then :) good luck
[08:57] <keymone> gosse: who can i talk to if i do have problems with restricted drivers manager?
[08:57] <david__> ok
[08:57] <SSJ_GZ> david__: g++ is a command-line only app.
[08:57] <IppatsuMan> david__: g++ is a command line only program, you won't find anywhere in the menus.
[08:58] <gosse> i have no idea... post the question for all to see, aond someone's bound to answer sooner or later
[08:58] <mardi_soir> daskreech: my hope is to make bugg report but without computer skill ( im not a dev (again))
[08:58] <david__> command line, so how can use it then?
[08:58] <mardi_soir> advanced user but no skill in dev
[08:59] <SSJ_GZ> david__: Run g++ from the command-line.
[08:59] <daskreech> mardi_soir: Oh well certainly but just saying that it is worse doesn't help. Try and find out what is using up a lot of memory or a lot of CPU
[08:59] <david__> command line is like the terminal?
[08:59] <daskreech> Turn off 3D effects to see if your video card is having a problem
[09:00] <SSJ_GZ> david__: Yes.
[09:00] <mardi_soir> daskreech: ok i m on it
[09:00] <david__> ok
[09:00] <daskreech> !bug
[09:00] <david__> thank you very much
[09:00] <michael_> Hi just got kubuntu 9.04, but when booting the live cd I only get a console, no X. It worked with the beta versions, but not the new one. Any ideas?
[09:01] <daskreech> lazy bot
[09:01] <david__> the other day I see on the internet a website that offer a version of kubuntu named satanic kubuntu
[09:02] <daskreech> I think you mean Ubuntu :)
[09:02] <mardi_soir> daskreech: (another .. thing .. when you make a netinstall and use ext4 .. on the first but .. a fsck is made .. .. and reboot and then it's fine ( i obsrve this 4 times since today)
[09:02] <mardi_soir> boot
[09:02] <daskreech> But yes it'sa joke for Christian Ubuntu
[09:02] <gosse> found it!!! startup-manager! :D
[09:02] <david__> and it works fine?
[09:02] <esperegu> how to get flash again after upgrading to 9.04 ?
[09:03] <daskreech> david__: They changed the wallpaper to have fire
[09:03] <david__> because looks very cool
[09:03] <david__> exactly is the same
[09:03] <SandGorgon> esperegu: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:03] <daskreech> mardi_soir: ok :-) I need to see a netinstall
[09:03] <esperegu> SandGorgon: if that would work......
[09:04] <esperegu> SandGorgon: I had working flash. now it does not anymore. I removed it purged it but insta/ling it again maues no difference.
[09:04] <mardi_soir> Darkstar: with ext4 exclusively i had this problem
[09:05] <mardi_soir> not with ext3
[09:05] <dapper-daniel> hej! i still have the problem with wireless lan and network manager
[09:05] <mardi_soir> and not with xfs
[09:05] <dapper-daniel> networkmanager doesnt want to connect
[09:05] <dapper-daniel> it does not set the essid
[09:05] <mardi_soir> daskreech: sorry not Darkstar
[09:06] <SandGorgon> esperegu. copy libflashplayer.so into ~/.mozilla/plugins
[09:07] <dapper-daniel> iwconfig says "Access Point: Not-Associated"
[09:07] <dapper-daniel> and the essid is wrong
[09:07] <daskreech> mardi_soir: Well a) ext4 is new so somethings may be for caution and b) there is a known issue with ext4 and GNOME/KDE so there might be extra things as well.
[09:07] <dapper-daniel> even uncrypted networks dont work
[09:08] <daskreech> mardi_soir: Both the Desktop Environments and the ext4 team are working to get this resolved
[09:08] <MinusSeven> if I install Kubuntu 9.04,  will the sound work with two programs at the same time?
[09:08] <esperegu> SandGorgon: found a bug report... the suggested solution did work: sudo apt-get purge flashplugin\* ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:08] <david__> I have a question,there are  more channels like this for chat?
[09:09] <gosse> night room
[09:09] <mardi_soir> daskreech: glad to know this .. remember . i dd be glad to help .. but i have no skill too do this if i watch what you all dev do
[09:09] <david__> how can you, change the server
[09:11] <daskreech> mardi_soir: http://techbase.kde.org/Contribute/Bugsquad/Guide
[09:12] <daskreech> david__: Server or room ?
[09:12] <david__> room
[09:12] <daskreech> !ot | david__
[09:13] <mardi_soir> daskreech: fine .. i ll read this thanks for your time
[09:13] <david__> oh,
[09:13] <david__> cool
[09:14] <david__> Im very new on this , but its amazing specially the blender
[09:14] <IppatsuMan> From time to time my brand new Kubuntu Jaunty freezes: any hd activity stops, the mouse won't move... a solid freeze. My best bet is that it's a problem with X 1.6.0 and my ATI video card (as dfaure reports here http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3942 ). Is there any workaround known? I'm on a 32bit system so I can't use dfaure's debs.
[09:15] <daskreech> david__: not the kitchen sink?
[09:15] <daskreech> :-)
[09:17] <RurouniJones> Ye gods, how on earth do you install mysql on 9.04. There are so many options and wierd naming schemes, 5.1.31 which is really 5.0.75 which is...
[09:17] <daskreech> !info mysql
[09:18] <RurouniJones> That would be the reason then
[09:18] <daskreech> !info mysql-client
[09:18] <daskreech> Ah there we go
[09:18] <RurouniJones> Hmm, but there is also a 5.1.31
[09:19] <RurouniJones> which is probably 5.0.76 or some such nonsense
[09:19] <Mamarok> RurouniJones: no, not really
[09:20] <Mamarok> it's there because of Amarok
[09:20] <RurouniJones> sod it, back to the command line, the packageit app is just too damn convoluted when searching for mysql stuff.
[09:21] <daskreech> Yeah I'm still trying to get searching in kpackagekit
[09:21] <Skapare> what GIF decoder does Konqueror use?
[09:21] <RurouniJones> I much prefer the old KDE 3.5 package manager I have to say
[09:21] <daskreech> Sometimes when I close it and open it I get very different results
[09:22] <daskreech> Yeah but no one works on that anymore.
[09:22] <Mamarok> RurouniJones: if you want a really good package manager GUI, use Synaptic, state of the art
[09:22] <daskreech> The code is there along with an offer to work on it
[09:22] <Mamarok> it's ugly but it works
[09:22] <daskreech> adept was better
[09:22] <perseid> I'm trying to set up tvtime. My TV card is detected, but tvtime is convinced it wants to use my webcam instead.
[09:23] <Skapare> I'm wondering if this is a Konqueror issue ... when I view a page with multi-part GIFs, it blinks them like it's assuming they are animations
[09:23] <RurouniJones> I shall give that a go after mysql has finished installing
[09:24] <Parlotti> I have tried to set nano to line wrap at 72 but nothing happens. I need it to auto line wrap since I use it in yakuake and mutt
[09:26] <Edulix> hi
[09:31] <Parlotti> can anyone tell me how to make nano auto text warp when being used with mutt through a ykuake terminal?
[09:32] <alakoo> Anyone have ideas why I can't get wobbly windows to work with compiz fusion?
[09:32] <Edulix> hi
[09:32] <Edulix>  hi, where can I download the img file for ubuntu (instead of the one for ubuntu netbook remix)?
[09:33] <Parlotti> alakoo: have you tried making sure you are using the latest graphic drivers? That worked for me afte they were installed and I rebooted
[09:33] <alakoo> Edulix:  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[09:34] <alakoo> Parlotti:  I used the "recommender" ones, I'll try using the most recent ones.
[09:34] <alakoo> *d
[09:34] <amgarchIn9> do you feel in 9.04 that repeat rate for pressed keys is slower?
[09:35] <eagles0513875> anyone use uck in here
[09:36] <RurouniJones> Anyone had any issues with Dragon Player displaying only a white screen when playing an vi?
[09:36] <RurouniJones> avi
[09:36] <alakoo> RurouniJones:  you're likely missing plugins or coders
[09:37] <RurouniJones> They were working a bootup ago
[09:37] <Parlotti> Hello I need help with making nano auto wrap text when emailing with mutt in a yakuake terminal
[09:37] <alakoo> If not, the avi-file may be corrupt, have you tried running totem?
[09:37] <RurouniJones> I think it may have stopped working when I installed the recommended extras that dragon wanted
[09:38] <alakoo> RurouniJones: The new stuff you installed may be incompatible with the older plugins that worked.
[09:38] <RurouniJones> Hruagh
[09:38] <eagles0513875> RurouniJones: try installing kubuntu-restricted-extras that will install any proprietary codecs. also have you tried vls
[09:38] <eagles0513875> RurouniJones: vlc
[09:39] <RurouniJones> No, my net connection is dog slow so download and installing extra stuff takes time, I'll give the restricted extras a go.
[09:42] <etienne> hello / bonjour
[09:43] <eagles0513875> !fr | etienne
[09:43] <eagles0513875> RurouniJones: restricted extras will take some time besides codecs there is java and flash and other stuff
[09:43] <RurouniJones> I know, I looked at the package list
[09:44] <yaa_> cannot install nvidia drivers
[09:44] <RurouniJones> I was wonering why it is trying to install the openjdk
[09:45] <RurouniJones> Ok, still got white screen now getting error messages about how my normal sound system is now b0rked and falling back to pulse audio.
[09:46] <RurouniJones> Bugger it, back to 8.04.2
[09:46] <yaa_> on nvidia 9600 gt
[09:47] <eagles0513875> RurouniJones: i kinda have that issue but i have analog and digital if you want to file a bug i can confirm it on my rig
[09:48] <eagles0513875> RurouniJones: there is something wiht pulseaudio that if you go back to the default and use the script to restart it still doesnt work. audio will work after a reboot
[09:48] <etienne> ok i'll try in english : after upgrading to jaunty i do have a problem with k3b : want burn data dvd
[09:53] <superwad> would anybody be able to help me configure X to work properly with my new display?
[09:57] <RurouniJones> Right, reboot apparently fixed dragon (rebooting linux without updating a kernel...what next). Now I have lost the main volume control in the bottom right of the screen. Any ideas how you can get it back? It isn't a plasmoid by the looks of it
[09:57] <superwad> run KMix?
[09:58] <RurouniJones> Hmm, that started kmix but not as a panel icon but as an app that closed without doing anything.
[09:59] <superwad> odd.  that's the program that's running as an icon
[09:59] <RurouniJones> Probably depends how you start it
[10:05] <MinusSeven> is PulseAudio the default with 9.04?
[10:06] <B-Minus> hi all
[10:06] <B-Minus> i like 9.04 so far but i have some fatal crashes :s
[10:06] <superwad> MinusSeven: i believe th release notes said it's installed by mistake
[10:06] <superwad> so you need to remove it
[10:06] <MinusSeven> isn't PulseRadio better?
[10:07] <MinusSeven> Audio
[10:07] <B-Minus> when i 'play' with kpackagekit its crashing
[10:07] <MinusSeven> i mean
[10:07] <digdeep> Jaunty: my firefox menu buttons looks like this --> http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/977/screenf.jpg, anyway to fix it?
[10:07] <MinusSeven> when I tried kubuntu 8.10, I found sound only worked with one program at a time
[10:07] <superwad> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904#Pulseaudio%20inadvertently%20enabled%20in%20Kubuntu%20when%20installing%20from%20DVD%20or%20upgrading%20with%20apt-get
[10:07] <digdeep> It is without any decoration.
[10:09] <Bischoop> shit, were mistaken with distributions :-)
[10:09] <Bischoop> nebora
[10:12] <yaa_> anybody
[10:12] <yaa_> help me with nvidia drivers
[10:12] <yaa_> whats wrong with them
[10:13] <yaa_> when installing it shows error
[10:13] <yaa_> error of gui utility for hw drivers
[10:13] <yaa_> uuntu9 4
[10:13] <yaa_> %(
[10:14] <yaa_> i ve got nvidia geforce9600 gt card
[10:14] <shadyzay> hi guys
[10:14] <shadyzay> I'm having firewall issues after upgrading to 9.04
[10:18] <yaa_> aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh
[10:19] <llturro> Wow! This time kubuntu team made it!
[10:19] <llturro> Thank you all.
[10:22] <alecseyyy> dctv ghbdtn
[10:22] <alecseyyy> всем привет
[10:22] <yaa_> привет
[10:23] <zoiss> hi guys ...i have a soundcard based on creative x-fi and i'd like to set up digital output to my receiver. i got analog 2 channel sound output running with oss. does anybody know how to add spdif output?
[10:23] <alecseyyy> Кто то сталкивался с проблемой skype
[10:23] <alecseyyy> и гарнитура беспроводна
[10:24] <alecseyyy> я
[10:24] <alecseyyy> спарить их
[10:24] <Mamarok> !ru | alecseyyy
[10:24] <alecseyyy> !ru
[10:24] <Mamarok> oh bot where arest thou :(
[10:25] <Mamarok> alecseyyy: join #ubuntu-ru
[10:25] <alecseyyy> join #ubuntu-ru
[10:25] <superwad> use /j #ubuntu-ru
[10:25] <alecseyyy> толкомскажите
[10:25] <superwad> don't even know what that says
[10:26] <Mamarok> alecseyyy: please, English only in this channel
[10:26] <alecseyyy> use /j #ubuntu-ru
[10:26] <superwad> alecseyyy: just type "/j #ubuntu-ru"
[10:26] <alecseyyy> как к русскоязычному сообществу подключиться?
[10:26] <superwad> only: /j #ubuntu-ru
[10:26] <Mamarok> oh man, where are the ops when you need them, no bot around
[10:27] <alecseyyy> only: /j #ubuntu-ru
[10:27] <superwad> not getting the hang of it
[10:27] <alecseyyy> just type /j #ubuntu-ru
[10:28] <alecseyyy> всем привет
[10:28] <Fieldy> !nvidia
[10:28] <superwad> yay, he found it
[10:28] <Mamarok> Fieldy: the bot is not here at the moment
[10:28] <Fieldy> ah. trying to get nvidia 180 drivers working again on 9.04
[10:29] <IppatsuMan> alecseyyy: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[10:29] <Mamarok> Riddell: ping
[10:29] <darkenergy> why is shipit down? isn't that lost revenue?
[10:29] <superwad> IppatsuMan: i think he got it
[10:29] <superwad> he's in the channel now
[10:29] <Mamarok> darkenergy: shipIt doesn't generate revenue :)
[10:29] <superwad> maybe somebody here can help me with my issues with xorg and not displaying the proper resolution
[10:30] <IppatsuMan> good :)
[10:30] <superwad> my xorg.conf clearly has my desired resolution set, but it won't take it.  i get kicked back to 1280x1024 instead of 1920x1080
[10:31] <superwad> and what's more, in the display settings none of my resolutions are in there, but the ones that are are a jumbled mess
[10:32] <superwad> wrong button :(
[10:32] <superwad> so, am i crazy?  shouldn't my settings be taking effect?
[10:35] <eagles0513875> hey Mamarok where can i find the pgp key for the experimental repo ?
[10:36] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: read the launchpad.net page where you found the repo...
[10:36] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: im rather confused at the moment im trying to add the key via command line
[10:36] <Quintasan> superwad: backup your xorg.conf and do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:36] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: the instructions are *on* that page
[10:37] <brett__> hey all, just updated from kubuntu 8.10 to kubuntu 9.04 through adept and now my battery level has disappeared from system tray, and knetworkmanager doesn't start on startup, i have to start it manually, otherwise i have no network connections. how do i fix these?
[10:37] <yaa_> nvidia need help
[10:37] <yaa_> OMG
[10:37] <yaa_> UBOTTU u say ))
[10:37] <eagles0513875> yaa_: you installed the latest one right
[10:37] <yaa_> yes
[10:38] <yaa_> 9 10
[10:38] <eagles0513875> brett__: its been replaced by a plasmoid add it
[10:38] <superwad> Quintasan: i've done that and it just ends up stripping everything from my configuration
[10:38] <yaa_> 180 glx
[10:38] <superwad> including all my nvidia settings
[10:38] <eagles0513875> yaa_: try the one before the latest one and see if you ahve any issues
[10:38] <Quintasan> brett__: Do you know how to unlock widgets?
[10:38] <yaa_> i did try
[10:38] <Quintasan> superwad: hmmm
[10:38] <yaa_> 177 173
[10:38] <eagles0513875> still nothing
[10:38] <yaa_> yeah
[10:38] <eagles0513875> yaa_: would file a bug as well
[10:38] <Quintasan> superwad: have you tried launching it with sudo?
[10:38] <superwad> only did it with sudo
[10:38] <yaa_> u thing its a bug?
[10:38] <superwad> i've also tried the nvidia-settings
[10:39] <eagles0513875> yaa_:  it has to be a bug
[10:39] <Quintasan> superwad: search /var/log/Xorg* for errors
[10:39] <yaa_> (((
[10:39] <yaa_> the same was on 8 10
[10:40] <eagles0513875> yaa_: also look in dmesg see if anything shows up there
[10:40] <brett__> quintasan: i know how to add widgets to my dashboard, is that what you mean?
[10:40] <eagles0513875> brett__: ya thats what you gotta do for network manager as well as battery
[10:41] <brett__> ok great :) thanks will do
[10:41] <eagles0513875> no problem
[10:41] <eagles0513875> also there is a new replacement for adept too btw brendonw
[10:41] <eagles0513875> mt
[10:41] <eagles0513875> brett__:
[10:41] <brett__> whats the replacement?
[10:41] <Quintasan> brad_: if you want them to appear on panel use the cashew that appears on panel
[10:41] <eagles0513875> brett__: kpackagekit
[10:42] <yaa_> eagles0513875: do not see anything suitable
[10:42] <brett__> eagles0513875: great, thanks for that!
[10:43] <eagles0513875> yaa_: ok check the xorg logs for anything
[10:43] <eagles0513875> brett__: no prob
[10:43] <yaa_> il paste them
[10:44] <eagles0513875> yaa_: im not much help with xorg to be honest
[10:44] <eagles0513875> yaa_: what kinda video card do you have
[10:44]  * eagles0513875 starts getting frustrated at trying to find this pgp key
[10:44] <Quintasan> superwad and yaa_: please put /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin and paste the link here
[10:45] <yaa_> eagles0513875:  pasteu.buntu.com/157787/
[10:45] <yaa_> i ve got nvidia geforce9600 gt card
[10:45] <Quintasan> eagles0513875: kubuntu-experimental?
[10:45] <eagles0513875> ya
[10:45] <eagles0513875> Quintasan: im trying to add the key via commandl ine
[10:45] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-experimental/+archive/ppa
[10:45] <Quintasan> eagles0513875: don't be suprised if KRuner wont work
[10:46] <superwad> http://pastebin.com/m2f0f7922
[10:46] <superwad> yea, i'm seeing some errors in there relating to my resolution
[10:46] <eagles0513875> ty mamrok
[10:46] <superwad> it's properly detecting my display though, so that's good
[10:46] <yaa_> Quintasan: www.paste.ubuntu.com/157787/
[10:48] <Quintasan> superwad: ok, paste your xorg.conf
[10:48] <Quintasan> superwad: you use pastebinit?
[10:48] <Quintasan> yaa_: I'm unable to access it
[10:48] <superwad> no
[10:48] <superwad> http://pastebin.com/m140b499b
[10:49] <superwad> is that some automated pastebin dumping program?
[10:49] <Quintasan> superwad: yup :)
[10:49] <superwad> sweet
[10:49]  * superwad installs
[10:49] <yaa_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/157787/
[10:49] <yaa_> this is correct
[10:49] <yaa_> sorry
[10:50] <Quintasan> superwad: you can use it like this: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit   :P
[10:50] <superwad> that's awesome
[10:50] <superwad> yea, that's installed now :D
[10:51] <Quintasan> yaa_: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[10:51] <yaa_> why
[10:51] <yaa_> ??
[10:51] <Quintasan> yaa_: something is not installed
[10:52] <yaa_> what exactly
[10:52] <Quintasan> yaa_: dunno, what you installed so far?
[10:52] <Quintasan> superwad: http://pastebin.com/f3067f9d <--- try copying resolution related lines from mine :P
[10:53] <yaa_> nvidia glx 180
[10:53] <superwad> Quintasan: you have no resolution related lines
[10:53] <Quintasan> wat
[10:53] <yaa_> Quintasan: 180 nvidia glx
[10:53] <Quintasan> ....
[10:53] <yaa_> OMG
[10:53] <Quintasan> I forgot I did reinstall :P
[10:54] <superwad> :P
[10:54] <yaa_> ((
[10:55] <Quintasan> yaa_: 32 or 64 bits?
[10:55] <yaa_> 64
[10:55] <yaa_> previous was 32 but did the same
[10:56] <yaa_> 8 10 i mean
[10:56] <Quintasan> yaa_: I guess you tried nvidia-xconfig
[10:56] <yaa_> i did
[10:56] <Quintasan> yaa_: paste it
[10:56] <yaa_> ok
[10:57] <Quintasan> superwad: hmm I'm suppose your card can use 1920x1080 (even my shitty Radeon 9550 can do this :P)
[10:57] <yaa_> what to paste--command output or xorg conf
[10:57] <yaa_> Quintasan: ?
[10:57] <Quintasan> yaa_: xorg.conf
[10:57] <yaa_> ok
[10:58] <superwad> Quintasan: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=87926
[10:58] <superwad> according to that, it may not be able to fully support the max resolution
[10:58] <superwad> but even so, i was able, not 4 hours ago, to display 1680x1050
[10:59] <yaa_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/157800/
[10:59] <yaa_> Quintasan: here it is
[10:59] <Quintasan> superwad: maybe it's a problem with your graphics card, got diffrent card to test it?
[11:00] <superwad> none that play nice with kubuntu
[11:00] <superwad> they're all ATI and i have so many problems with ati cards
[11:01] <Quintasan> superwad: what ATI card do you have?
[11:01] <Quintasan> yaa_: this look good. However looks like the driver is not installed correctly
[11:02] <superwad> not sure if they still work, but i have a ATW 9600 XT and a radeon 9600 pro
[11:02] <Quintasan> yaa_: try reinstalling it, I can't think of other solution
[11:02] <Quintasan> superwad: 9600 worked good for me
[11:02] <superwad> i think the 9600 worked last time i used it
[11:02] <Quintasan> superwad: till I tried overclocking >_<
[11:02] <yaa_> Quintasan: you mean nvidia-glx-180?
[11:03] <Quintasan> yaa_: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_180.51.html
[11:03] <Quintasan> yaa_: this
[11:03] <yaa_> OK
[11:04] <superwad> i've just been missing it for a while it seems
[11:04] <superwad> turns out to have been in a computer that's been retired for some time
[11:04] <superwad> i might have to try that card again
[11:05] <superwad> Quintasan: what drivers would i use for the 9600?
[11:05] <dannu> hi
[11:05] <dannu> im ubuntu hardy and huawei e220
[11:05] <dannu> works fine
[11:06] <superwad> yay
[11:06] <Quintasan> superwad: ati, fglrx is no longer supporting R300 series I think  (I'll try installing it anyways :P)
[11:14] <julitro> a
[11:14] <superwad> Quintasan: yea, the latest version appears to have dropped support for the 9600
[11:15] <superwad> oh well, i'll figure it out later
[11:15] <superwad> thanks though for trying
[11:15] <julitro> hola
[11:17] <|PaperTiger|> How do I install the drivers for my graphics card on Jaunty?
[11:18] <_gl> hi I just upgraded my eee pc 701 to jaunty and lost the wifi. I can see the networks, but konqueror does not seem to find the network. Any ideas?
[11:18] <dev29aug> what is difference between ubuntu and kubuntu???
[11:19] <_gl> !wifi
[11:19] <rolandb> Ubuntu: use Gnome desktop. Kubuntu use KDE desktop
[11:19] <dev29aug> ok
[11:20] <_bischoop> dev29aug: Kubuntu is ubuntu, but Kubuntu got KDE (window manager)
[11:20] <dev29aug> which is more powerful
[11:20] <_bischoop> rolandb: :-) cheers
[11:20] <dev29aug> actually i am a beginner
[11:20] <_bischoop> dev29aug: try both
[11:20] <rolandb> Yes, but you can install both KDE and Gnome programs on both desktops
[11:21] <dev29aug> i dont know the difference between KDE and gnome...
[11:21] <_bischoop> even more :-)
[11:21] <rolandb> Btw, I'm also a beginner with Ubuntu
[11:21] <dev29aug> i only know that its like gui
[11:21] <_bischoop> dev29aug: wich u like more?
[11:21] <dev29aug> i installed ubuntu 8.10
[11:21] <_bischoop> Install Ubuntu :-)
[11:21] <dev29aug> through virtual box
[11:22] <_bischoop> then u might install KDE if u just will want try it
[11:22] <julitro> instala ubuntu y luego pones kde en ubuntu
[11:22] <dev29aug> okk
[11:22] <rolandb> KDE has a more polished look, but there are bits in Gnome I like more.
[11:22] <zoiss> hi guys ...i have a soundcard based on creative x-fi and i'd like to set up digital output to my receiver. i got analog 2 channel sound output running with oss. does anybody know how to add spdif output?
[11:22] <julitro> puedes alternar entre sesiones
[11:22] <rolandb> Ideally I want parts from both
[11:22] <dev29aug> thnx
[11:22] <dev29aug> i am learning all the operating systems
[11:23] <_bischoop> rolandb: is Ubuntu your first Linux?
[11:23] <|PaperTiger|> How can I revert back to Intreped?
[11:23] <rolandb> I have used Ubuntu with 8.10 but swithched to Kubuntu with 9.04
[11:23] <_bischoop> dev29aug: FANTASTIC :-)
[11:23] <dev29aug> this time i have 8 operating systems in my laptop
[11:23] <julitro> 8?
[11:23] <_bischoop> dev29aug: you're great :-)
[11:23] <dev29aug> 7 are working on virtual box
[11:23] <dev29aug> yaa 8 OS
[11:23] <dev29aug> I have a dell laptop
[11:24] <julitro> dell es lo mejor!
[11:24] <_bischoop> nebora :-)
[11:24] <dev29aug> currently i m chatting from fedora 10
[11:24] <_bischoop> RH :-) mine first Linux :-)
[11:24] <dev29aug> i also have freeBSD
[11:24] <faileas> lol
[11:24] <dev29aug> FreeBSD is totaly different
[11:25] <_bischoop> I like Slackware
[11:25] <faileas> dev29aug: i'm planning on getting an OS/2 VM set up ;p
[11:25] <dev29aug> But i am fascinated about ubuntu
[11:25] <rolandb> I actually tried Redhat a couple of years ago, but quickly switch back to Windows.
[11:25] <_bischoop> yeah I know, wanna try it, I mean PC-BSD
[11:25] <_bischoop> I want choose BSD or Slackware 4 server
[11:25] <dev29aug> ok
[11:26] <|PaperTiger|> Is there a downgrade path to go back to Intreped?
[11:26] <_bischoop> but also I'm fascinating with ubuntu like u, but I like Kubuntu :-)
[11:26] <dev29aug> Tell me anyone know thw way to install MAC OS on intel machine through Virtual Box
[11:26] <dev29aug> ??
[11:26] <_bischoop> |PaperTiger|: sorry PAL, not :-)
[11:26] <|PaperTiger|> _bischoop, ah, damn it.
[11:27] <_bischoop> |PaperTiger|: shit, man forgive me. Tired
[11:27] <|PaperTiger|> _bischoop, know how to install the FLGRX for?
[11:27] <dev29aug> i have to buy a mack book to use mac os?
[11:27] <dev29aug> nope
[11:27] <|PaperTiger|> _bischoop, 'cos Jaunty is SO unstable for me, until I get the FGLRX drivers.
[11:28] <_bischoop> |PaperTiger|: I'll not help ya now, really very Tired and got some job to do yet
[11:28] <dev29aug> okk buddy
[11:28] <_bischoop> |PaperTiger|: speak to others
[11:28] <dev29aug> do your job
[11:28] <dev29aug> thnx
[11:28] <|PaperTiger|> okay, cheers _bischoop
[11:28] <_bischoop> dev29aug: man, your'e bot or troll :-) or OP :-)
[11:29] <dev29aug> I am simple registered user..
[11:29] <dev29aug> i am new in IRC
[11:29] <_bischoop> OK
[11:29] <dev29aug> what is that troll ??
[11:29] <_bischoop> I dunno, I thought u know more than me:-)
[11:30] <dev29aug> nope
[11:30] <dev29aug> I am new buddy
[11:30] <_bischoop> like me :-)
[11:30] <dev29aug> yaa
[11:30] <dev29aug> you are from??
[11:30] <_bischoop> where do ya stay?
[11:30] <_bischoop> sco
[11:30] <dev29aug> i m indian
[11:31] <dev29aug> uu r brit?
[11:31] <_bischoop> nice to met u
[11:31] <dev29aug> same here buddy
[11:31] <dev29aug> i m an engineering student
[11:31] <dev29aug> computer science
[11:32] <_bischoop> where u study buddy?
[11:32] <dev29aug> Delhi...the capital of india
[11:32] <_bischoop> that's cool never been there
[11:32] <dev29aug> UTTAR PRADESH TECHNICAL UNIVERSITY
[11:33] <dev29aug> you are most welcome in india
[11:33] <_bischoop> dev29aug: i apreciate it :-)
[11:33] <dev29aug> k
[11:33] <_bischoop> dev29aug: u same in scotland :-)
[11:33] <dev29aug> mu bro is online
[11:33] <dev29aug> thnx
[11:34] <dev29aug> i am coming soon
[11:34] <matteo_> hi, i need some help
[11:34] <_bischoop> cool :-)
[11:34] <matteo_> some know why usb mouses freezes?
[11:34] <matteo_> sorry for my english
[11:34] <_bischoop> matteo_: what yor problem pal?
[11:34] <_bischoop> matteo_: nebora
[11:34] <matteo_> my usb mouse freezes...
[11:34] <_bischoop> hmm change USB socket
[11:34] <matteo_> after sometime 5 minutes, or 10 minutes..
[11:35] <matteo_> already tried
[11:35] <_bischoop> matteo_: try PS/2 mouse
[11:35] <matteo_> my mousepad works correctly
[11:35] <_bischoop> matteo_: should be OK, is yor mouse OPTIC:-)
[11:36] <_bischoop> matteo_: Im not talkin abot yor mousepad pal
[11:36] <matteo_> yes, it is optic, bot it doesn't work whatever usb port i choose
[11:36] <matteo_> sorry, i must go to lunch
[11:36] <_bischoop> where u from matteo_?
[11:36] <matteo_> italy
[11:36] <matteo_> thanks!
[11:36] <_bischoop> welcome
[11:36] <Peace-> matteo_: italy here tooo
[11:38] <_bischoop> A ja mowie po polsku :-)
[11:41] <yaa_> Quintasan:
[11:41] <_bischoop> Is there anybody here?
[11:41] <yaa_> i did
[11:42] <_bischoop> why u are not here now ? ;-P
[11:42] <yaa_> but th e screen splits now
[11:42] <_bischoop> so who do u are?
[11:42] <Quintasan> yaa_: what do you mean split?
[11:42] <_bischoop> split :-) separeted :-)
[11:42] <needII> has someone here problems with a tvcard too?
[11:42] <yaa_> its moved
[11:43] <yaa_> for one third
[11:43] <_bischoop> I'm not good with TV card
[11:43] <Quintasan> yaa_: nvidia-xconfig?
[11:43] <yaa_> i have installed the driver
[11:43] <yaa_> 64 amd
[11:43] <_bischoop> OK
[11:43] <Quintasan> yaa_: ok, I mean do nvidia-xconfig
[11:43] <needII> lspci shows me my card, but kdetv don't find the card.. :-(
[11:44] <yaa_> i did
[11:44] <Quintasan> yaa_: pastebin it
[11:44] <_bischoop> have u seen xorg?
[11:44] <Quintasan> yaa_: xorg.conf
[11:44] <yaa_> the xorg conf?
[11:45] <_bischoop> yaa_: where u from?
[11:45] <yaa_> samoa)
[11:45] <_bischoop> hmmm OK, try to help ya
[11:45] <Quintasan> @_@
[11:46] <_bischoop> yaa_: what distro you've got?
[11:46] <_bischoop> what version
[11:46] <yaa_> 9 04
[11:46] <_bischoop> 8.4 8.10 9.4?
[11:46] <yaa_> ubuntu
[11:46] <_bischoop> hmmm I've got 8.10
[11:46] <_bischoop> but Linux is Linux :-) dont worry
[11:46] <yaa_> i do not %)
[11:47] <_bischoop> yaa_: are you familiar whith console?
[11:47] <yaa_> the same was with kubuntu 8 10
[11:47] <yaa_> a little
[11:47] <Quintasan> yaa_: pastebin the xorg.conf if you can
[11:47] <yaa_> using linux about a month
[11:47] <_bischoop> can u open please console and do sudo?
[11:47] <yaa_> ok
[11:47] <yaa_> just a moment
[11:48] <yaa_> i cannot start in normal mode
[11:48] <yaa_> i mean startx
[11:49] <_bischoop> its OK, so try login in text mode
[11:49] <_bischoop> are u root on sudo already ?
[11:50] <yaa_> ok i save the xorg conf/ the fix xorg and send
[11:50] <yaa_> in pastebin
[11:50] <_bischoop> I dunno paste bin pal, u need to try fix it by yourself, nobody here charity
[11:51] <_bischoop> try google.co.uk/linux and type configuration xorg.conf
[11:51] <_bischoop> then click: SEARCH
[11:51] <_bischoop> google.com yor uncle
[11:52] <_bischoop> hi raylu
[11:53] <_bischoop> hior: comfanter
[11:53] <raylu> ...hi
[11:53] <Quintasan> That will help him for sure
[11:53] <_bischoop> :-)
[11:53] <Quintasan> yaa_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[11:53] <Quintasan> yaa_: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[11:53] <Quintasan> yaa_: paste the link here
[11:54] <yaa_> paste.ubuntu.com/157841
[11:54] <_bischoop> Quintasan: I'm new with debian so dont know those tools, I used Linux Slackware for 5 yirs
[11:55] <Quintasan> _bischoop: and it's Kubuntu support channel
[11:55] <yaa_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/157841
[11:55] <_bischoop> and I hade've 5yirs break off od COMPUTERS ;-)
[11:55] <_bischoop> yaa_: cheers buddy
[11:56] <_bischoop> I know different paste site's
[11:56] <yaa_> bicshop my english does not allow me to enjoy jokes
[11:56] <_bischoop> yaa_: nebora I'm really serious I dont do jokes of people
[11:57] <Quintasan> yaa_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg    and restart X
[11:57] <yaa_> Quintasan: ok
[11:57] <_bischoop> hi drbobb
[11:57] <_bischoop> jak sie masz
[11:58] <AliG> Hi
[11:59] <yaa_> Quintasan: i did
[11:59] <_bischoop> Hi AliG
[11:59] <Quintasan> yaa_: It should work but it's not going to use nvidia
[12:00] <Quintasan> yaa_: change that Driver line form nv to nvidia and try starting it again
[12:00] <yaa_> it worked before i made xfix
[12:00] <Quintasan> yaa_: in xorg.conf ofc
[12:00] <yaa_> Quintasan: i ll try
[12:01] <andrei> hey guys i've unistalled some stuff from ubuntu and now i can't see the shorcuts from my descktop is all empty, any ideas?
[12:01] <yaa_> Quintasan:  section driver?
[12:01] <yaa_> i have alresdy nvidia there
[12:01] <comfanter> XScreenSaver Error:Directory does not exist: "/usr/share/backgrounds"
[12:02] <|PaperTiger|> Am I going to have to reinstall Intreped because there is no fglrx support for Jaunty?
[12:02] <Quintasan> Section "Device"
[12:02] <yaa_> i have already nvidia there  too
[12:02] <Klaids> hi!
[12:02] <Quintasan> yaa_: and it's not working?
[12:03] <Quintasan> Klaids: hi there
[12:03] <yaa_> not working
[12:03] <Quintasan> |PaperTiger|: It's not problem with jaunty, it's problem with new fglxrx
[12:03] <yaa_> not working i mean compiz does not work
[12:03] <Quintasan> fglrx*
[12:03] <Quintasan> yaa_: so the desktop is working? no split screens?
[12:04] <yaa_> yes it works
[12:04] <Klaids> exit
[12:04] <yaa_> when i did xfix
[12:04] <yaa_> fix x server from recovery mode
[12:04] <Quintasan> yaa_: glxinfo | grep direct
[12:04] <Quintasan> yaa_: what it shows?
[12:06] <comfanter> Because you say " <_bischoop> hior: comfanter"
[12:06] <yaa_> a lot %)
[12:07] <Quintasan> yaa_: direct rendering: yes?/no?
[12:07] <hior> what?
[12:07] <yaa_> xlib : extension "glx" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:07] <Quintasan> @_@
[12:07] <Quintasan> I didn't expect that
[12:08] <yaa_> couldnot find rgb glx visual or fbconfig
[12:08] <Quintasan> yaa_: uninstall nvidia-glx-180 and restart X
[12:09] <yaa_> ok
[12:10] <yaa_> done
[12:13] <Quintasan> yaa_: try glxinfo once more
[12:13] <yaa_> yes
[12:14] <Quintasan> yaa_: direct rendering: yes?
[12:14] <yaa_> IT WORKS!!
[12:14] <Quintasan> that's good
[12:14] <Quintasan> :)
[12:14] <yaa_> man thank you very much!
[12:15] <yaa_> i just din not remove previously installed drivers 180 173 and depended libs
[12:15] <yaa_> thank you once more)
[12:16] <Quintasan> yaa_: np :D
[12:20] <werner_> Moin moin, hat irgendjemand einen Tipp, wie man das Einfrieren des X-Servers unter JAUNTY in den Griff bekommt?
[12:20] <faileas> erf...
[12:20] <faileas> !de
[12:20] <faileas> i think...
[12:20] <desu> #ubuntu-de ?
[12:21] <faileas> ya
[12:21] <desu> *#kubuntu-de
[12:21] <werner_> schon geguckt: alle hängen an der gleichen Stelle
[12:21] <faileas> i was expecting the bot to do it ;p
[12:21] <desu> yeah, even i forgot what the bot's trigger character was :(
[12:21] <faileas> werner_: this channel is english only
[12:21] <faileas> desu: it seems down
[12:21] <desu> o_O
[12:22] <desu> o...
[12:22] <werner_> ok, any idea about the freezing of X-Server under Jaunty
[12:22] <werner_> ?
[12:22] <desu> so ! really was the trigger char
[12:22] <faileas> desu: yes
[12:22] <desu> werner_: can you paste logs to rafb.net/paste?
[12:22] <werner_> ok
[12:23] <werner_> mom
[12:23] <desu> mom? O_O
[12:23] <desu> where?!
[12:23]  * desu hides
[12:24] <toby_> Can anyone recommend a good backup tool for backing up my whole / to my windows PC before upgrading to 9.04?
[12:26] <eagles0513875> !backup | toby_
[12:26] <Quintasan> toby_: try using dd
[12:26] <Quintasan> toby_: it's a console tools
[12:26] <eagles0513875> Quintasan: is the bot broken
[12:26] <eagles0513875> i noticed this morning bot kept leaving due to flooding
[12:26] <Quintasan> toby_: if you want a graphical one try keep
[12:26] <faileas> toby_: you want a file level or partition level backup?
[12:27] <toby_> faileas: file level I suppose - I'm generally more comfortable restoring from that
[12:28] <desu> toby_: do you _really_ want to backup the _entire_ / ?
[12:28] <faileas> then DD wouldn't work
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> could use rsync
[12:28] <faileas> ya, use rsync or a front end
[12:28]  * faileas has back in time for that
[12:28] <toby_> I've just looked at rsync but, because it's file level, it can't copy the permissions to my Windows hard disc
[12:29] <toby_> But if I go partition level, the files are too large for samba
[12:29] <toby_> So I can't see how to move forward
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> toby_: if th data is on its own partition, you can use partimage on an unmounted partition
[12:33] <Jan_______> hey, i got a short question, are there any good local bridge card games for linux i can install?
[12:33] <toby_> So, make an ext3 partition on my windows machine?
[12:34] <faileas> toby_: go for a partition backup with partimage maybe?
[12:35] <desu> toby_: you can do 'tar -cjvf - / | nc -l 12345` on the linux machine and then use nc for windows on the other machine this way: `nc <ip-of-linux-machine> 12345 | tar -xjvf -'
[12:36] <noukist> hi all
[12:36] <noukist> i ' ve updated my linux into 9.04 and i am having little trouble with mozilla
[12:36] <noukist> anyone who can help or give any advice ?  :)
[12:36] <noukist> thanks
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-cards
[12:37] <toby_> desu:  Never heard of nc - the manpage says "the tcp swiss-army-knife"!
[12:37] <toby_> sounds intriguing.
[12:38] <toby_> I'll take a look at that, thanks
[12:38] <desu> nc is cute n_n
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> !info floater
[12:38] <faileas> nc is useful
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Jan_______: floater is one I've just found
[12:38] <noukist> no idea  ? :(
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> noukist: wow you waited 4 mins
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> noukist: you havent even said whats wrong with it
[12:39] <noukist> i can't write any internet address
[12:39] <noukist> and i also..
[12:39] <noukist> tried to unistall it
[12:39] <noukist> and install it again
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> ease up on the enter key kid
[12:40] <noukist> but now i see i can;t use synaptic
[12:40] <Jan_______> actionparsnip: i think that's not a local game, cause it asks me to register first..
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> noukist: ok lets try: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Jan_______: its a web based game you play real players online
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> noukist: can you pastebin the output of that
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> !paste | noukist
[12:41] <Jan_______> actionparsnip: i'm trying to find a local game, i dont need online play :)
[12:41] <noukist> ok i 'll try
[12:41] <noukist> thank u
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Jan_______: you could try a windows app in wine if you can't find one
[12:43] <Jan_______> actionparsnip; Tried that, it keeps crashing on me
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Jan_______: hmm, tried a few?
[12:44] <Jan_______> actionparsnip; yea, Somehow wine doesnt like those apps
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Jan_______: weird
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Jan_______: all i'm finding is pybridge which is online
[12:44] <Jan_______> Yea i found that one too
[12:45] <Jan_______> But those are all online, and i  dont want that
[12:45] <Jan_______> thanks anyway though.
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Jan_______: keep digging
[12:45] <Jan_______> thanks, will do
[12:46] <Laeborg> hello
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> !hi | Laeborg
[12:46] <Laeborg> I have just upgraded my laptop to Jaunty, but now knetworkmanager can't connect my to wifi network
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> noukist: hows that pastebin coming?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Laeborg: can you patebin the output of: lshw -C network
[12:47] <faileas> Laeborg: WPA2?
[12:47] <Laeborg> no just WPA
[12:48] <matteo_> hi, is there someone who can help me? my optical usb mouse freezes in every session
[12:48] <noukist> ActionParsnip: it shows that everything is fine
[12:48] <noukist> i would show you
[12:48] <TMKCodes> Heyo.. Anyone know when catalyst 9.4 is coming for linux?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> noukist: ok cool
[12:48] <noukist> the logs but is in greek so :D
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> noukist: if there are no more upgrades or its jjust upgraded it is fine
[12:48] <Laeborg> ActionParsnip, should i write my netowrk name (Fynsgade-29) under network ?
[12:49] <noukist> ok thanks for all man :)
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> noukist: pastebin it anyhoo, i'll just read the rhyhmn and babelfish what i dont get
[12:49] <matteo_> hi, is there someone who can help me? my optical usb mouse freezes in every session
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> Laeborg: no, sudo lshw -C network    is the command
[12:50] <jacalope> i have a documented problem that tells me that I need to use an earlier version of g++.  How do I downgrade?  Or better, can I have 2 versions of the same package installed?  that sounds like a migraine.
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> matteo_: sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart; sudo rmmod usbhid; sudo modprobe usbhid
[12:50] <jacalope> btw, jaunty here
[12:50] <matteo_> action, thank u very much
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> matteo_: better?
[12:50] <matteo_> wait :)
[12:51]  * noukist afk
[12:51] <matteo_> restart is in the command? or i must restart pc?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> noukist: we need to find if the packages are ok and all deps are met
[12:51] <james^Cs> Me installed Jaunty KDE3 rmx, after that I can't play sound through my Kaffeine, VLC or even online (youtube). When loggin in my Linux the start-sound is playing as it is when I run a hardware media-test! What's wrong ?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> matteo_: no, its the command you paste into konsole
[12:52] <matteo_> u know why? is my motherboard? or a software bug?
[12:52] <werner_> eben
[12:52] <noukist> back
[12:52] <Laeborg-lap> ActionParsnip: just plugged in a cable in the laptop
[12:53] <Laeborg-lap> http://pastebin.com/m22fc30b
[12:53] <noukist> ActionParsnip do you rememebr the link for the pastebin ?
[12:53] <noukist> ohh
[12:53] <noukist> ok :)
[12:54] <matteo_> Actionéarship, after the rmmod command, the shell does nothing
[12:54] <matteo_> rmmod is normally so long?
[12:54] <noukist> http://pastebin.com/m1ebb3bc here iis mine
[12:55] <noukist> is *
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Laeborg-lap: i think it needs ndiswrapper to get the wired going, you need to blacklist the tg3 module: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=788909
[12:56] <matteo_> ActionParship, i must plug off all usb?
[12:56] <xuming> can I report bugs here? I cannot log out in kubuntu!
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> matteo_: just let it run its course, leave the usb in, usbhid is the module that manages usb stuff, if you mod it all usb stuff will die, but the next command puts it back in
[12:57] <Laeborg-lap> the wired connection works fine (just plugged in the cable) but the wireless doesn't
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> !bug
[12:57] <matteo_> ok
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Laeborg-lap: oic, gimme a sec
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Laeborg-lap: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=820297
[12:58] <foont> hello, guys :))
[12:58] <xuming> hello, gays
[12:58] <matteo_> ActionParship, i plugged off all usb, but it says to me "device or resource busy"
[12:59] <foont> how funny x'(
[12:59] <Laeborg-lap> i hadn't any problems with 8.10, but as soon as i upgraded to 9.04 it hasn't worked
[12:59] <xuming> :-)
[12:59] <JB_> anyone has problem with gnome
[12:59] <Laeborg-lap> i can find my network, but i cant connect
[12:59] <JB_> 9.04
[13:00] <xuming> My kdm in kubuntu 9.04 doesn't work well
[13:00] <JB_> me too but KDE is okay
[13:00] <maarika> kde 4 isnt very good
[13:00] <maarika> i use 3.5
[13:00] <maarika> its stable
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> i use 4.2.2 with lxde
[13:00] <xuming> It will become ok
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> kde looks horrible
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> and is slooooow
[13:01] <matteo_> ActionParship, i plugged off all usb, but it says to me "device or resource busy"
[13:01] <maarika> ationparshi. what u use ?
[13:01] <xuming> I'm not agree, it's fast on my machine
[13:01] <foont> would you be so kind as to tell me how to repair windows booting, after installing kubuntu 9.04.  When i choose windows in menu grub, it wiil become dark and nothing else '(
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> maarika: lxde, but i use kde apps like ktorrent and amarok
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> xuming: kde uses a tonne of resources, a ligter de is faster
[13:02] <maarika> actionparshnip, is it lighter than kde 4 ?or 3
[13:02] <Peace-> my kde is on 272 mb of ram
[13:02] <Peace-> ..
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> i just like fast and slick
[13:02] <Peace-> on freebsd kde uses 150 mb of ram...
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> maarika: much lighter
[13:03] <Mamarok> ActionParsnip: remember, this is a Kubuntu support channel...
[13:03] <matteo_> Action, can u help me? or u abandoned me?
[13:03] <foont> help plz '(
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Mamarok: i know, i'm just offering alternatives
[13:03] <maarika> action_: than kde3.5 ?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> matteo_: reboot your system, then read through   dmesg | less
[13:03] <matteo_> ok
[13:04] <maarika> down anyone know good alternate to wvdial
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> maarika: lxde uses 45mb ram
[13:04] <maarika> i use HUAWEI e 220 usb modem
[13:04] <maarika> and ubuntu hardy :)
[13:04] <maarika> i dont like this wvdial
[13:04] <foont> how repair booting windows after installing the kubuntu?
[13:04] <maarika> does anyone know some graphic config and dialer ?
[13:05] <maarika> foont: Format c:\ :)
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> maarika: i'd suggest using it, its in the official documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Huawei/E220
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> foont: you need to add an entry in grub for the boot
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> !grub | foont
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> foont: that will give hints
[13:06] <xuming> I cannot log out in kubuntu 9.04!
[13:06] <linux-hdtv> How can i find out what /media/disk is in /dev ?
[13:06] <Quintasan> linux-hdtv: type df in console
[13:06] <foont> maarika, very clear
[13:06] <xuming> But when I use gdm , it works
[13:07] <linux-hdtv> thank you, quintasan. this will save me much looking around in the future :-)
[13:07] <foont> actionparship, thank
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> xuming: use gdm instead then
[13:07] <xuming> yes i did
[13:08] <xuming> It's not easy to use IRC to chat
[13:09] <maarika> actionparsnip howto automate this dialer :
[13:09] <Laeborg> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/m611d6cc8
[13:09] <Laeborg> when i try to connect to my network
[13:10] <maarika> i d like that when my laptop starts up then it automatically connect internet via this USB - thing
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> maarika: its not something I use, you could make a script and put it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[13:11] <maarika> ok
[13:11] <xuming> Does every IRC channel have a leader?
[13:11] <Flokass> yes
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> Laeborg: ps -ef | grep 6370
[13:11] <Flokass> also: the leader musstnd be on allways
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> xuming: they usually have OPs, not leaders
[13:12] <xuming> oh
[13:12] <maarika> action, i use kubuntu 8.04 lts is its good ? or does i need upgrade never version if i look stable OS ?
[13:12] <xuming> what does OP mean?
[13:12] <Laeborg> nothing ActionParsnip. but 3945 gives me something
[13:13] <xuming> u can upgrade to kubuntu 10.4
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> xuming: its not released yet
[13:13] <Laeborg> http://pastebin.com/m7d1a698d
[13:13] <linux-hdtv> I must say there is progress in KDE 4.2 :-)
[13:13] <xuming> i kown
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> xuming: an OP is an operator whom keeps the channel ontopic and friendly
[13:13] <Laeborg> i had no problems with the wireless in 8.10
[13:13] <linux-hdtv> Yesterday i thought i't just an expensive beauty :-)
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> xuming: so how can you upgrade to something thats not released?
[13:14] <xuming> so you're the OP here ?
[13:14] <maarika> action what program u use to communicate MSN ?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> xuming: no
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> maarika: pidgin
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> maarika: theres amsn too but i find it bloated personally
[13:15] <xuming> I have to learn to use IRC!
[13:15] <maarika> action, does it support webcam or smthn?
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> maarika: amsn does i think. i dont use them
[13:18] <matteo_> ActionParship, i done the command dmesg | less
[13:18] <matteo_> what do u need of the output?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> matteo_: read through with cursors and websearch for any errors you find
[13:21] <linux-hdtv> Quintasan, how can i see how a drive is formated ?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> linux-hdtv: mount
[13:28]  * noukist afk
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> !away > noukist
[13:35] <linux-hdtv> thanks, actionparsnip
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> linux-hdtv: np bro
[13:36] <linux-hdtv> i have a disk on sata, which is seen by dolphin but requires root to display contents. sudo mount does not show it, how can i add it to fstab ?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> linux-hdtv: what file system is it using?
[13:37] <mackk431> where do i find grub on kubuntu 9.04 in order to manage several operation systems?
[13:37] <linux-hdtv> ext3
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> mackk431: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:37] <mackk431> isnt there a kde solution?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> linux-hdtv: ok thats good, what is the partition name, and where do you want it mounting
[13:38] <TCK> anyone have a quick guide to setting up dual-head with the open-source ati drivers?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> mackk431: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[13:38] <mackk431> thank you
[13:38] <linux-hdtv> label is video, i would like to mount it as /video
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> mackk431: it'll just point you there
[13:39] <padi999> hey guys, I seem to have problems installing texlive via adept: http://pastebin.com/m2dda3a2d
[13:39] <padi999> seems, "prosper, texlive-common and lmodern have dependency issues
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> TCK: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[13:39] <padi999> what's that?
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> linux-hdtv: ok, if you run: sudo fdisk -l    it will identify the partition  (e.g.   /dev/sda3)
[13:40] <TCK> ActionParsnip: Muchos gracias
[13:42] <ubuntu_> hi. where do i get flash for konqueror?
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> linux-hdtv: sudo mkdir /video; sudo mount /dev/<partition name here> /video -t ext3 -o umask=0000
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> linux-hdtv: if you rearrange that to put in fstab then make the option  auto,umask=0000
[13:43] <hagabaka> why is there no cdemu package for jaunty? :(
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> hagabaka: you can compile it or find a ppa with it
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> hagabaka: konqueror can rip CDs, as can K3B
[13:45] <hagabaka> it's not for ripping CDs
[13:45] <padi999> where can I get kelp on installation issues in KDE(adept, or apt-get)?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> hagabaka: whats itfor then?
[13:45] <padi999> texlive 1.11 errs while installation!
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> padi999: can you pastebin the command you are issuing as well as the erroneous output
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> padi999: www.pastebin.com
[13:47] <linux-hdtv> thanks actionparsnip, i think i am going to reformat it, mount said: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1
[13:47] <padi999> ActionParsnip: I did paste a pastebin
[13:47] <padi999> see above
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> linux-hdtv: you need to insert the partition name in my command
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> padi999: ok, can i have the link to it
[13:47] <padi999> ActionParsnip: hey guys, I seem to have problems installing texlive via adept: http://pastebin.com/m2dda3a2d
[13:47] <padi999> ActionParsnip: hey guys, I seem to have problems installing texlive via adept: http://pastebin.com/m2dda3a2d
[13:48] <linux-hdtv> i did: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /video -t ext3 -o umask=0000
[13:48] <linux-hdtv> sudo fdisk -l lists it as System: Linux
[13:49] <padi999> ActionParsnip: I think, this is a bug and it seems to be fixed in Jaunty
[13:49] <padi999> ActionParsnip: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/texlive-base/+bug/177674
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> padi999: log a bug
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> padi999: add a comment to say you get it in jaunty too
[13:51] <padi999> ActionParsnip: no, I'm not using Jaunty
[13:51] <padi999> ActionParsnip: why should I use an alpha release and why are bugs only fixed in an alpha release?? This is not very friendly for people, who like it stable
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> padi999: hmm, it says its fixed in jaunty, but the bug was logged in intrepid so i'd add your comments
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> padi999: jaunty is released
[13:52] <doleyb> happy jaunty everyone!
[13:52] <padi999> ActionParsnip: Yes, but isn't it still alpha (not suited for daily work)
[13:53] <linux-hdtv> where is the partitioner ?
[13:54] <padi999> ActionParsnip: my point is: I have a bug in my (stable) intrepid release. Not this bug gets solved but only in the unstable alpha release of jaunty where I don't want to upgrade into because it's unstable. Why not solving a bug in the current release in the first place?
[13:54] <linux-hdtv> jaunty is the current release ?
[13:55] <linux-hdtv> padi999 ?
[13:55] <padi999> linux-hdtv: please specify the question in more detail :)
[13:55] <bazhang> padi999, jaunty is not alpha
[13:55] <linux-hdtv> padi, google jaunty release
[13:56] <padi999> bazhang: ActionParsnip: linux-hdtv: Well it says on ubuntu.com: It should come as no surprise that the alpha release of Jaunty Jackalope contains bugs
[13:56] <bazhang> padi999, jaunty release was yesterday (final)
[13:56] <bazhang> padi999, check the date, that is outdated
[13:56] <gnail> I have a problem ,thank you for help for me ,  when  i run configure of kdevelop ,  it  have a problem  : error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[13:56] <padi999> bazhang: ah, cool, thx :)
[13:57] <padi999> bazhang: well, it says 23. of April so two days. How outdated can that be? *g
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> padi999: its an open source OS, no warranties, no SLA, no garuntees
[13:57] <padi999> ActionParsnip: I'm just a user, not a dev, that's the point :)
[13:57] <linux-hdtv> where is the partitioner in kubuntu 9.04 ?
[13:57] <padi999> ActionParsnip: and I obviously need texlive
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> linux-hdtv: kdesudo gparted
[13:58] <bazhang> padi999, it's not an alpha. so the article in question is flat out wrong
[13:58] <linux-hdtv> thanks
[13:58] <padi999> bazhang: well, then it should not stand in the Jaunty wiki, should it? :)
[13:58] <linux-hdtv> padi999 is right feels good
[13:59] <gnail> I have a problem ,thank you for help for me ,  when  i run configure of kdevelop ,  it  have a problem  : error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[14:01] <linux-hdtv> actionparsnip, there is no partitioner installed by default, right ?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> linux-hdtv: i use fdisk personally
[14:02] <linux-hdtv> do you study linux, actionparsnip ?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> linux-hdtv: no, i just use it and have done for a while
[14:02] <linux-hdtv> amazing, your knowledge ...
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> linux-hdtv: i also have badass websearching skillz
[14:03] <executionist> which irc server is this
[14:03] <bazhang> freenode
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> !freenode
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> ubottus is awesome, she saves me so much hassle
[14:04] <executionist> wow so many people on kubunty, i thought must be some official one
[14:04] <Larik> quastion: hi everyone. does anybody know how to get rss-glx screensavers running under 9.04@KDE ? (missing that matrixView thing :) )
[14:04] <linux-hdtv> how do you do websearching, actionparsnip ?
[14:04] <Larik> a==e
[14:04] <padi999> 1h30min until Jaunty :)
[14:04] <padi999> 100kB/p :I
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> linux-hdtv: www.ask.com www.google.com w.msncom
[14:05] <linux-hdtv> obviously my partition was not completely partitioned last time, actionparsnip.
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> www.msncom
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> lots of search engines :) keps my swebsearch skills honed
[14:05] <linux-hdtv> superbrain :-)
[14:07] <linux-hdtv> what fs would you use, actionparsnip ?
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> the internet is a superbrain
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> linux-hdtv: ext3
[14:08] <stegen> ja
[14:10] <andrey> Hi! Help me pls install flash player for my firefox 3
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> !flash
[14:10] <andrey> !flash
[14:12] <DexterF> hi
[14:12] <DexterF> !remix
[14:12] <DexterF> how do I upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04/remix?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade
[14:13] <linux-hdtv> what is remix, dexterf ?
[14:13] <DexterF> linux-hdtv: 9.04 with kde3.5.10
[14:13] <doleyb> He means UNR, unbuntu netbook
[14:13] <linux-hdtv> ah, thanks
[14:13] <andrey>  But i heve error when try install package "libc6":"Error: Conflicts with the installed package 'tzdata'". I must uninstall it?
[14:13] <andrey> *have
[14:13] <DexterF> ActionParsnip: outdated
[14:14] <DexterF> doleyb: no, I dont
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> DexterF: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/12/howto-upgrade-to-jaunty-jackalope.html
[14:14] <andrey>  But i have error when try install package "libc6":"Error: Conflicts with the installed package 'tzdata'". I must uninstall it?
[14:14] <doleyb> DexterF: so why'd you call it remix?
[14:15] <w-heat> anyone have any idea when the packages will be updated to latest for amarok?
[14:15] <DexterF> doleyb: thats what the kde3 edition is called
[14:16] <DexterF> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-jaunty-kde3-remix-beta
[14:21] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:22] <linux-hdtv> hi BluesKaj
[14:22] <linux-hdtv> is there a kubuntu (quickstart) guide ?
[14:23] <yao_ziyuan> when you right click an item on the desktop,
[14:23] <yao_ziyuan> do you experience a delay?
[14:26] <rmrfslash> cool... my mouse just turned into a giant vertical bar of werid lines
[14:29] <TCK> can anyone help me with what I'm doing wrong with xorg.conf, trying to get dual-head with MergedFB
[14:33] <sathia> hi
[14:33] <sathia> anyone reading?
[14:33] <matteo_> hi, but i cannot help u
[14:33] <sathia> ciao
[14:33] <sathia> ok
[14:33] <matteo_> sathia sei italiana?
[14:34] <sathia> matteo_ sì
[14:34] <matteo_> ullà, finalmente una
[14:34] <bazhang> !it
[14:34] <matteo_> sorry
[14:34] <matteo_> join #ubuntu-it
[14:34] <pragad7> i have downloaded ubuntu 8.10 and i dont like the interface .is kubuntu going to be better because of kde
[14:34] <sathia> i wish to talk with someone in english
[14:35] <sathia> i have 2 problems, 1) i cannot get a decent speed out of my wifi which is enabled to 802.11N
[14:35] <sathia> 2) i cannot install a pptp connection at all
[14:35] <pragad7> uhh
[14:36] <SimpleAnecdote> are there no rules regarding asking a question?
[14:36] <chef_> hi
[14:36] <pragad7> hi
[14:37] <chef_> wo bin ich denn hier gelandet?
[14:37] <brjames> hey, im having a problem with network manager, everytime i try to add the plasmoid, it spawns three processes that each take 100% cpu
[14:37] <kaddi> kubuntu support channel
[14:37] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: as long as it's about kubuntu :)
[14:37] <jhunold> !de | chef_
[14:37] <brjames> even worse it doesnt even work, i try to click on my wireless network and nothing happens
[14:37] <pragad7> is kubuntu better than ubuntu
[14:37] <brjames> any help?
[14:37] <SimpleAnecdote> Well, my problem is as follows: the microphone is not working. It's inbuilt in the laptop with a camera. The camera works. The microphone doesn't. Not with audacity or any other app
[14:38] <SimpleAnecdote> kubuntu 9.04 installed
[14:38] <matteo_> pragad7 kubuntu use kde, ubuntu uses gnome
[14:38] <mogul218_> pragad7 depends on what you are looking for
[14:38] <pragad7> i want better keyboard navigation
[14:38] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: what kind of laptop
[14:38] <matteo_> gnome is lighter for your pc
[14:38] <SimpleAnecdote> DELL XPS m1210
[14:38] <pragad7> ubuntu doesnot allow that
[14:38] <SimpleAnecdote> microphone worked with ubuntu9.04 (upgraded today)
[14:38] <matteo_> simple, congratulations for your pc..
[14:38] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdoate: Have you tried screwing w/ Alsa?
[14:39] <SimpleAnecdote> rmrfslash: I'm a total newbie friend.. Tried screwing with Kmix.. But that's about all
[14:39] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: did you enable stuff in kmix
[14:40] <SimpleAnecdote> enabled all channels in Kmix
[14:40] <mogul218_> pragad7 i run ubuntu on my main desktop and kubuntu on my laptop.......i like the one touch interface of kde4
[14:40] <SimpleAnecdote> there is a tab in kmix however..
[14:40] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: And then you toggled them on?
[14:40] <SimpleAnecdote> with some usb device which is marked as a mic
[14:40] <SimpleAnecdote> the checkbox on "capture" is checked
[14:40] <SimpleAnecdote> but volume is on minimum.. and can't move it
[14:40] <SimpleAnecdote> but.. that device is not even the device that all the apps are trying to use
[14:40] <pragad7> mogul218 one touch interface sounds cool. is it really keyboard friendly
[14:41] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: what r u using to test your mic?
[14:41] <SimpleAnecdote> they all try to use the ALSO HDA Intel etc
[14:41] <bazhang> !enter > SimpleAnecdote
[14:41] <SimpleAnecdote> I used Audacity
[14:41] <brjames> mogul218: you didnt have any problems with network manager and wireless on your laptop?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> linux-hdtv, http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/linux_system_administration/kubuntu_quick_guide/ch03.html
[14:42] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: I used skype... let me install audacity
[14:42] <SimpleAnecdote> I also have skype installed
[14:42] <SimpleAnecdote> installed audacity to check skype
[14:42] <SimpleAnecdote> because skype wouldn't work
[14:43] <pragad7> how can i get kde without downloading the whole kubuntu for i already have ubuntu
[14:43] <rmrfslash> I really had to play around w/ my laptop for stuff to work
[14:43] <bazhang> SimpleAnecdote, dont use the enter key after two or three words
[14:43] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: that is, for mic functionality
[14:43] <SimpleAnecdote> bazhang: sorry.. used to a much smaller room.. will try to contain my "enter" excitement
[14:45] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: yeah.... mine works
[14:45] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: I bet that helps you a lot :-/
[14:46] <SimpleAnecdote> it does.. actually.. just now the whole audio failed.. I can't hear nothing as well.. give me a minute to get that working again, so at least I'll be at point 0 not point -1
[14:46] <marco__> hi. how do i install flash and java for konqueror?
[14:47] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: I have my two digital input sources and I selected Digital Mic 1 & Digital Mic 2, two Capture devices (both checked)
[14:48] <SimpleAnecdote> rmrfslash: did that already.. but as I said.. now everything failed.. for no reason at all.. trying to get audio back up.. lol
[14:48] <TCK> anyone know how to set up dual-head with the open-source ati drivers?
[14:49] <pragad7> mogul218 can i pm to you
[14:49] <TCK> pragad7: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:50] <SimpleAnecdote> rmrfslash: going to restart.. maybe it'll do something
[14:50] <SimpleAnecdote> brb
[14:52] <pragad7> unfortunately i installed ubuntu just somedays ago and nkow it is asking me to download 200mb of updates may be of the last 6months maybe. and wahts morte ubuntu somehow reduces my internet speed 10 times so i really doubt if i would ever be to download kubuntu desktop. because the synaptic manager never downloads morethan 1kB/s while my speed is lke 10kB/s
[14:53] <SimpleAnecdote> rmrfslash: back
[14:53] <SimpleAnecdote> rmrfslash: at least audio is back
[14:53] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: Welcome back. Hey, I'm glad u told me about audacity. It looks like the two Capture devices do nothing, seems that the Mics are enabled using the Digital Input Source channel(s) and toggling these to Digital Mic. The Digital channel allows you access to the volume.
[14:54] <SimpleAnecdote> so "Digital" channel in Kmix?
[14:54] <TCK> pragad7: don't know how big KDE4 is exactly but the figure of 200MB sounds pretty close
[14:54] <rmrfslash> y
[14:54] <SimpleAnecdote> it's on max
[14:54] <mogul218_> pragad7 sure go ahead
[14:56] <JohnFlux> in 9.04 networkmanager-kde  has a serious bug in that it prevents existing connections from working
[14:56] <JohnFlux> This means that anyone that upgrades to 9.04 will find that their wireless internet does not work
[14:57] <JohnFlux> And without internet its harder to find the solution
[14:58] <[TCK]> I'll be honest, I'm not a great fan of the new network manager plasmoid
[14:58] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: I wish I could help further.... not sure what's up. Did the mic work in 8.10 (did you have 8.10 installed)?
[14:58] <JohnFlux> [TCK]: It looks pretty buggy
[14:58] <[TCK]> give a reboot of the router just in case, that solved part of my network problems
[14:58] <SimpleAnecdote> rmrfslash: microphone worked on ubuntu9.04
[14:58] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: but not kubuntu.
[14:58] <SimpleAnecdote> nope
[14:58] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: :-/
[14:59] <SimpleAnecdote> rmrfslash: :( indeed.. skype is one of the major functions I need my laptop for.. I love kde4 (really makes up for kde3 :P)...
[15:00] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: The only other thing I can add is that I had issues w/ my headphone jack and speakers and had to muck with /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[15:01] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: So, could be an alsa issue not registering your sound device properly. I had to add: option snd-hda-intel model=dell-m6
[15:01] <SimpleAnecdote> rmrfslash: sorry for being so newbish.. should I type into terminal: option snd-hda-intel model=dell-m6 ?
[15:02] <matteo_> hi, i found an error in dmesg
[15:02] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: No. I had to add a line like this to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[15:02] <matteo_> acpi error psparse-0524
[15:02] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: I'm on a Dell Studio XPS 16
[15:03] <rmrfslash> What was ur model?
[15:03] <SimpleAnecdote> rmrfslash: ok.. so I type: sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf ?
[15:03] <SimpleAnecdote> XPS M1210
[15:03] <matteo_> someone can help me?
[15:04] <rmrfslash> mmmmmmm I think kate should save things w/o special chars right i.e.newlines
[15:04] <SimpleAnecdote> I think kate is the default conf editor for kde?
[15:04] <matteo_> error in acpi on dmesg psparse-0524 ae_no_memory
[15:04] <axel_> Hello! How to figure out which sytemboard is used in a running installation?
[15:04] <rmrfslash> it's a text editor yes, and on kde
[15:04] <SimpleAnecdote> that file is empty for me btw..
[15:04] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: I say back that file up first
[15:04] <SimpleAnecdote> going to try and find it through dolphin
[15:05] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: then modify it and if you reboot and have no sound... you restore the original file
[15:06] <merikes> how can one make gtk fonts the same size as others in jaunty?
[15:06] <marco__> hi. how do i install flash and java for konqueror?
[15:06] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: It looks like just executing kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and edit it
[15:06] <matteo_> marco
[15:06] <matteo_> flash
[15:06] <matteo_> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-installer flashplayer-nonfree
[15:07] <matteo_> java i don't know
[15:07] <marco__> thanks
[15:07] <SimpleAnecdote> rmrfslash: I add "option snd-hda-intel model=dell-m6" after what?
[15:08] <rmrfslash> at the end
[15:08] <rmrfslash> you can try just putting "dell" not "dell-m6"
[15:09] <rmrfslash> is there an option in there already for snd-hda-intel?
[15:09] <axel_> marco__: Up to 8.04 "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras" worked quite well. Besides Java and Flash it installs some other things like the MS core fonts (as far as I remember).
[15:09] <marco__> thanks
[15:10] <matteo_> someone can help me?
[15:10] <matteo_> i get error acpi ae_no_memory
[15:11] <SimpleAnecdote> rmrfslash: HDA Intel(STA92xx Analog) | USB Device 0x46d:0x8c6(USB Audio) is what I have under communication in setting manage
[15:11] <SimpleAnecdote> manger*
[15:12] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: I found somehting in google which suggests "dell-m82"
[15:12] <SimpleAnecdote> paste this at the end of the file ? : "option snd-hda-intel model=dell-m82" (without quotes)
[15:13] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: right, no quotes
[15:13] <SimpleAnecdote> and then restart system?
[15:14] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: I see a few hits in google for this model and people in particular complaining about the front mic. Someone else suggested "option snd-hda-intel=ref"
[15:14] <SimpleAnecdote> already added and saved option snd-hda-intel model=dell-m82
[15:14] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: just try a few... unfortunately these are kernel module configs so you need to either load/reload the module or reboot (I think). Reboot should work
[15:15] <SimpleAnecdote> rmrfslash: ok.. will reboot.. brb
[15:16] <BluesKaj> after upgrading to jaunty , my laptop is no longer auto connecting wirelessly , the network manager sacn sees the router/netweork but doesn't even attempt to connect ..IC there DNS setings netmask gateway settings etc but none of them will accept any edits
[15:17] <marco__> after installing restricted extras for kubuntu I still dont have flash for konqueror. any sugesttion?
[15:18] <marco__> do I have to reboot the system?
[15:19] <SimpleAnecdote> rmrfslash: ok.. moment of truth
[15:20] <SimpleAnecdote> rmrfslash: doesn't seem to work...
[15:21] <marco__> does anyone use konqueror?
[15:21] <AlephZarro> marco_: Yes, I use konqueror all the time.  Mainly for file management.
[15:21] <SimpleAnecdote> rmrfslash: should a new option to choose appear? or am I just testing old sound configuration?
[15:22] <faileas> BluesKaj: WPA2?
[15:22] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: There could be a new channel
[15:22] <marco__> AlephZarro. can your browser execute flash?
[15:23] <AlephZarro> Looking for a way to have individual wallpapers for each desktop in KDE 4.2.2 in Jaunty 9.04.  Any ideas?
[15:23] <BluesKaj> faileas, the thing is finally trying to connect, there it is!
[15:23] <AlephZarro> marco__: checking
[15:23]  * noukist AFK
[15:23] <faileas> BluesKaj: yay... well whatever it is you did, worked ;p
[15:23] <SimpleAnecdote> rmrfslash: in Kmix I got no new option in channels..
[15:24] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: Hmm... your sound still works though.
[15:24] <human_blip> marco__: try Settings / Confgure Konqueror ... Plugins, Plugins tab,  Scan for Plugins
[15:24] <SimpleAnecdote> sound works
[15:24] <rmrfslash> SimpleAnecdote: I gotta run, but editing this file is what I used to get my headphone jack to work. Keep playin around.
[15:25] <AlephZarro> akeripper5: marco__: Yes (just watched a youtube video)
[15:25] <SimpleAnecdote> rmrfslash: ok. thanks mate
[15:25] <BluesKaj> faileas, I double clicked on the interner connection icon and it gave me 3 network options , so I chose mine :)
[15:26] <BluesKaj> but faileas, I had to add the network management widget/icon in order to get things going , how many ppl would assume that it had just disappeared :P
[15:26] <marco__> AlephZarro. Thanks. I have flash already
[15:28] <faileas> BluesKaj: ahh
[15:29] <nashk> Hi, is it possible toe enable a second monitor that I just attached to my laptop without restarting X. I always have to do that. I use ATI Radeon. Thanks.
[15:29] <marco__> AlephZarro, can you ear sound? I can't
[15:30] <AlephZarro> Marco__: Yes, everything is pretty much working.  Just caon't get unique wallpapers per desktop... yet.
[15:30] <marco__> flash doesnt have sound here. does anyone know the solution?
[15:32] <Phokian> Hi All! After I added the "deb http://" for the Banshee player I got an error next time I started KPackageKit. It reads like this: "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" and KPackige Kit told me to report the error
[15:32] <AlephZarro> Marco__:  Try right clicking on a flash video, choose the settings, then checking in there to see if there's something related to sound.
[15:34] <SimpleAnecdote> anyone has any ideas regarding an internal microphone not working on kubntu9.04?
[15:35] <Oceanwatcher> I never tried it, but at least mine is appearing in the list of sound sources.
[15:35] <x3cion> ello
[15:35] <x3cion> my music is running way faster than it should be running
[15:35] <Phokian> Any ideas ont the KPackageKit Problem?
[15:35] <x3cion> how can i fix that?
[15:37] <Oceanwatcher> Phokian - Sorry, I came in a little late - What problem?
[15:38] <AlephZarro> Marco__: You might want to also check your mixer settings (rightclick on volume in tray -> show mixer)
[15:38] <yao_ziyuan> i just wrote a kubuntu 9.04 live cd image to my external hard disk using ubuntu's "USB Startup Disk Creator"
[15:38] <Mylesmadness> Can someone help me geting my wireless working?
[15:38] <yao_ziyuan> then boot my computer with this external hard disk.
[15:38] <yao_ziyuan> i can see the "Try", "Install", "Memtest" menu
[15:38] <yao_ziyuan> but after choosing "Try",
[15:38] <Phokian> Oceanwathcer_ This one (Thx for the attention :)) After I added the "deb http://" for the Banshee player I got an error next time I started KPackageKit. It reads like this: "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" and KPackige Kit told me to report the error
[15:38] <yao_ziyuan> it's dead until i press ctrl+alt+del
[15:38] <yao_ziyuan> any clue?
[15:39] <Oceanwatcher> Myles: What is the problem?
[15:39] <Mylesmadness> Oceanwatcher: I doesn't work, it won't see my router but my winblows sees it at full strength
[15:40] <Phokian> Mylesmadness_: is your ESSID set to "hidden"?
[15:40] <Oceanwatcher> Ah.. Ok. So KpackageKit is working :-) Probably a problem with a connection. Does it say where to report the error?
[15:40] <marco__> I cheked the sound volume and I still dont have sound on flash. Does anyone knows about about any problem related with no-sound on flash?
[15:40] <Mylesmadness> Phokian: how would I check?
[15:40] <Oceanwatcher> Myles: Are you using the network plasmoid?
[15:41] <Phokian> Oceanwatcher_: no, just says that the package cache should have been refreshed by now
[15:41] <linux-hdtv> is there a kubuntu (quickstart) guide ?
[15:42] <Mylesmadness> Oceanwatcher: No? I think
[15:42] <Phokian> mylesmadness: does your accespoint appear on the list?
[15:42] <Mylesmadness> Phokian: No, but on every other wireless thing I have used on this network, Its picked it up
[15:43] <Mylesmadness> Phokian: I'm thinking the wireless drivers are messed up
[15:43] <Phokian> mylesmadness: do you know the name of your wireless network?
[15:43] <Mylesmadness> Phokian: Yeah
[15:43] <Oceanwatcher> Myles: Well - where do you see that it is not finding your network? And btw - what version of the dist are you using? 9.04?
[15:44] <Mylesmadness> Oceanwatcher: 9.04, and in the thing at the bottom, It click on it any there isn't anything to pick.
[15:46] <Phokian> mylesmadness: you could try the following - it worked for me but I may have just been lucky: open a terminal and type: sudo iwconfig eth1 ESSID yournetworkname
[15:46] <Oceanwatcher> Phokian: I have never seen that message, so it is difficult for me to guess where to report. You could actually start by putting a message in the software subforum on kubuntuforums.net
[15:46] <Oceanwatcher> Myles: Is it a black window that pops up?
[15:47] <Mylesmadness> Phokian: Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
[15:47] <Mylesmadness>     SET failed on device eth1 ; No such device.
[15:47] <Phokian> oceanwatcher: thx, I'll do that
[15:48] <Phokian> mylesmadness: then I'm beaten, sry
[15:48] <Phokian> mylesmadness: you could try to type : iwconfig
[15:49] <Phokian> mylesmadness: this gives you a list
[15:49] <Oceanwatcher> Myles: Open a terminal window and type lspci. Can you see your wireless network card there?
[15:51] <ermes> ciao ragazzi
[15:51] <ermes> come tolgo la pass all'avvio?
[15:51] <bazhang> !it
[15:51] <ermes> di kubuntu?
[15:52] <Mylesmadness> Oceanwatcher: twork controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[15:52]  * mariusk thinks kubuntu is just a mess these days
[15:52] <marco_> flash has no sound. any solution?
[15:52]  * mariusk with kde 4.x
[15:52] <Mylesmadness> Network*
[15:54] <Mylesmadness> Oceanwatcher: Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[15:56] <yao_ziyuan> when should i set the 'lba' flag for an external hard disk?
[15:57] <dragonrider> hello
[15:58] <dragonrider> can someone tell me which software i can use to test my microphone ?
[15:58] <davidjheinrich_> my distro upgrade is still stuck at 55% from yesterday around 4PM...is that normal?
[15:58] <dragonrider> no davidjheinrich_ , i have just finish to do it with my laptop
[15:59] <davidjheinrich_> hmm, how can I get it unstock?
[15:59] <dragonrider> you may try to use another miror
[15:59] <peaches> anyone know how to fix choppy xine audio
[15:59] <gosse> question... how can i set certain programs to autoload when gnome boots? (ubuntu 9.04)
[15:59] <peaches> gosse: sounds like #ubuntu
[16:00] <gosse> thanks
[16:00] <davidjheinrich_> if I try to close it, it says, "The system could be in an unusable state if you cancel the upgrade. You are strongly advised to resume the upgrade."
[16:01] <dragonrider> ouch ...
[16:02] <dragonrider> what is the miror you use ?
[16:02] <davidjheinrich_> but, it's just at the "getting new packages" stage...didn't get to the "installing the upgrades" page (although it did prev do "preparing to upgrade, & setting new software channels")
[16:02] <davidjheinrich_> dragonrider: how do I find out the mirror it is using?
[16:02] <davidjheinrich_> the "Show Terminal >>>" option is grayed out (this is Kubuntu)
[16:02] <dragonrider> in kpackage
[16:03] <Oceanwatcher> Phokian: What happens if you do an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade in a terminal window?
[16:03] <dragonrider> configuration -> Edit software sources
[16:03] <davidjheinrich_> it says "the program kpackage" is currently not installed
[16:03] <dragonrider> download from :
[16:04] <Phokian> oceanwatcher: this: E: Typ »http://ppa.launchpad.net/banshee-team/ppa/ubuntu« ist unbekannt in Zeile 54 der Quellliste /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:04] <dragonrider> maybe from adept then
[16:04] <marco_> the browsers can't load http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/ . could someone try this link on your browsers and tell me if it loads?
[16:05] <Phokian> oceanwatcher: I'm aware that you might not understand german, im sorry ill try to translate
[16:05] <dragonrider> oups sorry davidjheinrich_ , the name is kpackagekit
[16:05] <davidjheinrich_> it says "Download from: "Main server"
[16:05] <dragonrider> ok then try to use a miror near your city
[16:05] <dragonrider> or maybe from your internet provider
[16:06] <dragonrider> where are you from ?
[16:06] <davidjheinrich_> Rochester, NY
[16:06] <davidjheinrich_> near Buffalo
[16:06] <Oceanwatcher> Myles: Did you check if there are any special hardware drivers recommended for your card? Kmenu>Applications>System>Hardware
[16:06] <robin0800> marco_: OK here
[16:07] <Oceanwatcher> Phokian: No need. I still understand some. Had German in school. Rusty, but sometimes get the meaning :-)
[16:07] <dragonrider> i see that there is a lot of miror for USA
[16:07] <dragonrider> try one of these one
[16:07] <marco_> robin0800, flash here has no sound. do have any idea on how to solve this?
[16:07] <basy> Hi i have a lot of photos in one directory and i am looking for soft that can fast print them on my local printer, but 4 photos on one A4 letter...
[16:08] <robin0800> I use adobe;s
[16:08] <sponzor> is there any other program to view packages? becose KPackageKit is not so good:P
[16:08] <Phokian> oceanwatcher: kk :) I deletet the entry for banshee it did not help. apt-get upgrade did this: "could not open /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[16:08] <dragonrider> adept sponzor
[16:08] <sponzor> tnx
[16:08] <dragonrider> synaptic
[16:08] <desafinado> sponzor : synapatic package manager
[16:09] <sponzor> ok
[16:09] <Oceanwatcher> Phokian: Something you COULD try is to give the whole path to jaunty: http://ppa.launchpad.net/banshee-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/
[16:09] <faileas> sponzor: apt and aptitude
[16:09] <robin0800> Phokian: You need sudo
[16:09] <dragonrider> does somone know the name of a software which will permit me to test my mic ?
[16:10] <Phokian> oceanwatcher: I tried as sudo, same result
[16:10] <davidjheinrich_> after canceling the update, when I open Adept, it says, "Could not obtaina write lock onthe cache, falling back to read-only mdoe. You won't be able to install, remove, or upgrade packages...it appears that another process is running, which holds the write lock on the database. You first need to close hat program and then restart Adept to gain write access"
[16:11] <Phokian> oceanwatcher: could i manually edit this file: /etc/apt/sources.list and delete this line 54 that gives me trouble?
[16:11] <dragonrider> maybe you could kill the process davidjheinrich_
[16:11] <davidjheinrich_> how do I find out what process it is?
[16:11] <Oceanwatcher> Phokian - you can edit the list from KpackageKit
[16:11] <Oceanwatcher> Might be easier
[16:11] <dragonrider> try to find the process with the command : ps -aux
[16:12] <dragonrider> then use the command : kill -9 "id number"
[16:12] <Phokian> oceanwatcher: yes i can (even though im not obama ;))
[16:12] <dragonrider> and try again
[16:12] <davidjheinrich_> could it be "kdeinit4"?
[16:12] <Oceanwatcher> Phokian: :-) I have to go out for a little while. Will be back a bit later. WIll check the list to see how you are doing.
[16:12] <basy> Hi. is there any soft, that can print directory of photos 4 photos on each A4 (i need to print 1000 photos this way) any ideas plz?
[16:13] <dragonrider> i dont think so davidjheinrich_
[16:13] <Oceanwatcher> basy: Digikam
[16:13] <Phokian> oceanwatcher: kk, thx very much for the help, I'll let you know :)
[16:13] <davidjheinrich_> if I log out of X then log back in, will that kill the process?
[16:13] <basy> Oceanwatcher thanks
[16:13] <dragonrider> sorry i have to go ... i hope you will find a solution
[16:13] <dragonrider> yes i think it will work davidjheinrich_
[16:13] <davidjheinrich_> thanks
[16:17] <PROject-Emerald> Hey, #Kubuntu
[16:17] <PROject-Emerald> Was it wise of me to upgrade to 9.04?
[16:19] <Phokian> oceanwatcher: I got it. I open the terminal, didi "sudo kate" opened the file, deleted the entry for the banshee source and saved the file. Then KPackageKit went back to normal. All is fine now, I can install software again. Again thx for your help :)
[16:22] <KWGoD> can someone help me with a minor problem?
[16:22] <PROject-Emerald> I can try...
[16:23] <KWGoD> my screen is cutting off portions of my display
[16:23] <KWGoD> like when i open firefox half of the file button is cut off
[16:23] <PROject-Emerald> Change your resolution? No idea bro. I'm relatively new to Kubuntu.
[16:24] <PROject-Emerald> Why in the heck won't my Adept Installer =stay open?
[16:24] <gabriel9> @KWGod you nead to configure your xorg.conf
[16:24] <kaddi> hi, I just updated to jaunty and now i can't log into my (wpa2 protected) wireless connection. I know that this is a known issue, but the update release stated, that it should work with knetworkmanager, but it doesn't for me
[16:24] <k4ever> hi all.  just install kubunut jaunty x64 last night.  i'm having some problems.  first ati fglrx driver is not working.  i need fglrx for my games in wine (won't work with open source driver).  The fglrx module will not load and it complains about being out of memory
[16:25] <KWGoD> sokay fixed it
[16:26] <k4ever> also, how do I enable mouse wheel desktop switching (while using composite effects) in kwin?
[16:26] <KWGoD> for some reason i didnt notice i had a big black patch to the far right of my desktop so i fooled around with the monitor buttons
[16:27] <sponzor> if you use program system monitor and you have temperature how to change it from faranhate to celsium? :P
[16:27] <yao_ziyuan> finally, made the live disk using unetbootin
[16:28] <yao_ziyuan> or so.
[16:28] <yao_ziyuan> now: how do i set the taskbar to be opaque or translucent?
[16:29] <chx> I get no sound on pulse. is there a somethign to rtfm?
[16:29] <yao_ziyuan> because kubuntu 9.04's taskbar is opaque
[16:29] <yao_ziyuan> i'm studying the related svgz
[16:30] <tlvb> Using kate, the default tab key mode seems to be 'insert two spaces' however when I try to change it (to 8 spacecs, or indeed anything) in kate settings, it has no effect. What have I overlooked, or is it a bug?
[16:32] <Mannequin> hi, I'm having issues with the touchpad after upgrading to Kubuntu 9.04.
[16:32] <Mannequin> the "vertical scrolling zone" is too wide now, taking almost 1/2 of the touchpad
[16:32] <sponzor> why cant i add shourtcut to k menu i want it to be windows sign:P
[16:32] <yao_ziyuan> which package should i reinstall in order to correct /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/default/widgets/panel-background.svgz?
[16:32] <BluesKaj> anyone have a suggestion for a wifi signal strength meter , been searching but nothing seems to fit
[16:32] <Mannequin> tried with gsynaptics, but no luck
[16:33] <yao_ziyuan> googled
[16:40] <PROject-Emerald> Why won't any of my Adept programs (package manager, etC) stay open? I get to the password field and it gets all LFKDJFSDLFDJLSFDJL and closes.
[16:42] <PROject-Emerald> Nobody? -,-
[16:45] <johansja> how to remove applications completely in Kubuntu? I mean completely by its own packages, and all the packages that it has pulled.
[16:46] <NTFS> You cant see me
[16:51] <linux-hdtv> what fstab options would you specify for an ext3 partition ?
[16:55] <pavan_> How much free space do I need to upgrade to 9.04 (from 8.04)?
[16:58] <betzi> benutzt hier jmd amarok 2 unter 9.04 und hat rausgefunden, wie man sein MTP MP3player mittels amarok2 befüllen kann?
[16:59] <menax> hi
[17:00] <B-Minus> !dutch
[17:01] <menax> got an issue with wine, I have installed throug adept, windows apps run, but when I click under briwse c: drive, I got an error that folder dosdevices/c: doesn't exist. What us wrong?
[17:02] <menax> any ideas?
[17:02] <IppatsuMan> From time to time my brand new Kubuntu Jaunty freezes: any hd activity stops, the mouse won't move... a solid freeze. My best bet is that it's a problem with X 1.6.0 and my ATI video card (as dfaure reports here http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3942 ). Is there any workaround known? I'm on a 32bit system so I can't use dfaure's debs.
[17:04] <esofron> hello
[17:05] <enjo13> hey I just upgraded to 9.04 from 8.10... knetworkmanager doesn't start when I boot-up...any ideas on how to fix that?
[17:05] <IppatsuMan> enjo13: knetworkmanager isn't installed by default, you can use the plasmoid near the tray bar to connect to your network
[17:06] <robin0800> enjo13: Its in the release notes you have to add it to the panel
[17:07] <enjo13> ahh cool
[17:07] <PROject-Emerald> Um, my Jaunty Kubuntu text just completely failed and is all mushed together
[17:07] <enjo13> why isn't that installed by default?
[17:08] <robin0800> enjo13: It is just not on an upgrade
[17:08] <kaddi> help, i updated to jaunty and now i can't connect to wpa2-wireless anymore
[17:10] <beam> hello
[17:10] <draik> Hello all. My desktop seems to have gotten the kinks worked out from 8.10. I've had only 2 incidents of network disconnection. Go figure.
[17:10] <shock_day13> hey everyone
[17:11] <draik> My laptop still has a spike in /usr/bin/plasma (80-90% CPU)
[17:11] <draik> Hello beam
[17:11] <draik> hello shock_day13
[17:11] <shock_day13> so everyone enjoying jaunty?
[17:11] <shock_day13> hey draik
[17:12] <menax> hello
[17:12] <draik> Now, it's 95-99% CPU for /usr/bin/plasma
[17:12] <shock_day13> hey <menax>
[17:12] <beam> I enjoying jaunty
[17:12] <shock_day13> gu
[17:13] <shock_day13> its awesome isnt it beam
[17:13] <menax> when I click on Browse c: rive on wine, I got an error that folder dosdevices/c: folder doesn't exist
[17:13] <shock_day13> it was worth all the wait
[17:13] <draik> It's great for my desktop, but not so much on the laptop. If I can get the plasma down to a reasonable level, I think I'll be doing great.
[17:14] <menax> maybe your laptop got this intel chipset that is not working as spected on 9.04
[17:14] <shock_day13> but they should have given adept as default package manager instead of kpackagekit
[17:14] <draik> menax: What chipset would that be?
[17:15] <nceterval> Hello, my laptop currently has a very old version of Kubuntu (7.04?) with an encrypted home partition.  I was wondering how easy it would be to do a clean install of 9.04, using my old encrypted /home.
[17:15] <ign0ramus> hey all.
[17:16] <draik> ign0ramus: Hey there. How's it going?
[17:16] <ign0ramus> draik: ok, i guess... i'm having a hell of a time with Jaunty :/
[17:17] <draik> ign0ramus: What's your issue? My desktop is doing very well, but the laptop just has a high usage of /usr/bin/plasma (currently 95-99% CPU)
[17:17] <ign0ramus> draik: fresh install - now there's no fstab entry for NTFS partition (sda1) :(
[17:17] <draik> Odd
[17:18] <menax> draik: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/349314
[17:18] <ign0ramus> draik: i had copied all my stuff to  windows to easy transfer, and now nothing can see it
[17:18] <ign0ramus> draik: windows boots fine, but Kubuntu doesn't see that partition
[17:18] <beam> windows gavno
[17:19] <RurouniJones> Hmm, I appear to have lost the system tray icons for things like kmix and kopete. Does anyone know how I can get them back?
[17:19] <ign0ramus> draik: plus text boxes are a little wonky, and sometimes display odd characters/colors ...
[17:19] <Renegade15> o...kay
[17:19] <Renegade15> somebody say something
[17:20] <myrtilles> hi renegade :D
[17:20] <draik> Just powered up my VirtualBox, all good
[17:20] <Renegade15> oh thank god
[17:20] <beam> +100
[17:20] <Renegade15> somebody tell me how to remove the ati kernel module (fglrx) please
[17:20] <ign0ramus> ok, so what's the easiest way to manually add my partition in fstab?
[17:21] <Renegade15> manually, that is
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: kdesudo kate /etc/fstab
[17:21] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip: yup, there.
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> now add the line you want
[17:21] <ign0ramus> btw, no more "kdesu"?
[17:22] <draik> I still can't get boxee to work
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: same deal
[17:22] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip: this is what I currently have http://pastebin.com/m50ed3c9d
[17:23] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip: what steps do i need to take to properly add sda1 (ntfs) entry?
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: ok you have a single partition for ll data and a partition for swap
[17:23] <Renegade15> anybody? :/
[17:23] <beam> nu
[17:23] <Ellana> Bonjour !
[17:23] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip: sda1=ntfs | sda2=ext4 | sda3=swap
[17:24] <beam> #runtu
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: add: /dev/sda1  /media/ntfs_part  -t ntfs-3g   uid=1000,gid=100,umask=0022    0 0
[17:26] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip: kk
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: make sure you rn: sudo mkdir /media/ntfs_part
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: or change the folder in BOTH if you prefer something else
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: http://www.swerdna.net.au/linhowtontfs.html
[17:27] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip: made ntfs dir
[17:27] <Renegade15> does no one know how to remove fglrx manually?
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> then use that, the /media/<whatever folder MUST exist or the mount WILL fail
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Renegade15: dpkg -l |grep fglx
[17:28] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip: got it.  but should i use UUID instead of "sda1" ?
[17:28] <Renegade15> does that work for manually installed packages?
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: you can if you wish
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Renegade15: it will work for ANY package
[17:29] <Renegade15> yes, but that was not a .deb, that was ati's weird .run installer
[17:30] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip: so this looks OK? http://pastebin.com/mc1e54fd
[17:30] <Renegade15> just making sure that'll work
[17:30] <draik_> ign0ramus: I spoke too soon. I lost network connectivity on the desktop. Rather odd
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> Renegade15: ah, not sure then. try redownloading the .run file, maybe it has an uninstall option
[17:30] <ign0ramus> draik_:   :(
[17:30] <Renegade15> I have the .run, but it's not very interactive x_x
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: you need to delete '-t' fro the line
[17:31] <PROject-Emerald> Um, I have a problem and idk how to fix it...
[17:31] <PROject-Emerald> I was messing around with my taskbar and I lost the part where when you minimize stuff you can click it and it pops back up
[17:31] <PROject-Emerald> How do I reset my taskbar and widgets and stuff?
[17:32] <Renegade15> I'll poke the .run some more, brb
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Renegade15: http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2007/12/installing-newest-ati-driver.html
[17:32] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip: this will take effect on next boot?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: its active now
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: type: sudo mount /dev/sda1
[17:32] <Renegade15> ActionParsnip: I'm stuck in the recovery console in ircII - mind quoting the section in question? :S
[17:32] <linux-hdtv> Hi, what do you use to get a graphical representation of the disk space used by different dirs and subdirs ?
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: you will also might want to reboot just to test it comes up after a cold boot
[17:33] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip: "line 9 in /etc/fstab is bad"
[17:33] <PROject-Emerald> Anybody know?
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: did you make the folder?
[17:33] <Renegade15> Project-Emerald: Theme options in the control panel
[17:34] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip: i did "sudo mkdir /media/ntfs_part
[17:34] <menax> how can i update wine?
[17:34] <Renegade15> the wine project has its own repository
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> menax: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:34] <PROject-Emerald> Renegade15: Where is that exactly? I'm new to Kubuntu
[17:34] <Renegade15> go to their site and browse around, they have instructions how to add it to adept
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> menax: if there are any upgrades for wine or anything else it will upgrade
[17:35] <menax> ok, thanks!
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> menax: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[17:35] <Renegade15> I'm sort of lacking a menu right now, but it's either under settings or under system
[17:35] <Renegade15> it should be called "control panel" or something to the like
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Renegade15: do you mean the bottom bar?
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Renegade15: plasma?
[17:35] <Renegade15> I'm talking to emerald
[17:36] <PROject-Emerald> ActionParsnip: I'm having a Plasma(?) problem I think
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Renegade15: helps if you address him/her
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: killall plasma; plasma
[17:36] <Renegade15> yes, but tab completion seems to be an issue right now
[17:36] <draik> ign0ramus: OK, let's see how long I have network connectivity this time. :(
[17:37] <PROject-Emerald> ActionParsnip: How do I get my taskbar back? Like when i minimize stuff it doesn't show down there...
[17:37] <BluesKaj> ahh, wavemon , a cli wireless signal strength meter ...cool app !
[17:37] <Renegade15> emerald: do you have the funny yellow nut thingy in the top right corner?
[17:37] <torocatala> por que en la mayoria de foros leo que con un dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg se arreglan problemas de graficos
[17:37] <torocatala> y cuando yo lo ejecuto
[17:38] <torocatala> solo me pregunta sobre el teclado?
[17:38] <PROject-Emerald> I have a little transparent cashew-looking shape thing
[17:38] <BluesKaj> !es
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: aaaaah you need to add a widget to the plasma. i think its called Task manager or something
[17:38] <Renegade15> click that, click on add mini programs or whatever it is, you should get a list
[17:38] <eraserhead> hi, with desktop effects the performance is really choppy. the graphics card is a geforce 8400 gt with 128MB. is it the xorg.conf or its a weak graphics card?
[17:38] <torocatala> wait
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: right click plasma bar -> add widget
[17:38] <PROject-Emerald> My god I'm a moron
[17:38] <PROject-Emerald> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[17:38] <PROject-Emerald> You too, Renegade15
[17:39] <PROject-Emerald> How do I change where they're situated?
[17:39] <Renegade15> unlock them, then drag them around
[17:39] <torocatala> because en all forums the people says. "do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to fix your card graphics problems" but when I do that, the program only ask me about my keyboard? i don't understand anything
[17:39] <Oceanwatcher> Phokian: No problem. Glad if anything I said pointed you in the right direction.
[17:40] <Renegade15> brb, gonna try if that installer has anything new to say x_x
[17:40] <torocatala> join #kubuntu-es
[17:40] <torocatala> oops
[17:43] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip: got it.  I had to use: "/dev/sda1 /media/ntfs_part ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0"
[17:44] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip: what's the difference?
[17:44] <eraserhead> how to install nvidia driver on kubuntu ?
[17:45] <wags> anyone here??
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: mine was more defined with permissions etc
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> eraserhead: can you give the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[17:46] <sd32> why do they make it so hard tto find the md5 for kubuntu?
[17:46] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip: hmm... using ntfs-config, i should now be able to mount on startup, though, right?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> sd32: its not, its in the same place yuo got the ISO / Torrent
[17:46] <draik> Where can I find out the cause of my network connectivity suddenly being dropped at a random point in time?
[17:46] <Geekguy> Anyone else with Ensoniq (ens1371) get choppy sounds with Jaunty? Any fixes in view?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: i dont use ntfs as i dont use windows
[17:47] <sd32> ActionParsnip, thats not obviious, but thanks
[17:47] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip: fair enough :)
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> sd32: sure it is, you get the iso and md5 from the same place, why is that not hugely obvious
[17:47] <ign0ramus> Ok, last question (for now)... what is the package name to give gtk apps KDE4 style?  Firefox is hideous!
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> sd32: easiest way is to websearch the md5 you calculate from the file
[17:47] <sd32> ActionParsnip, its not on the home page like it should be
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> sd32: i'll show you
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> sd32: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> sd32: see how all the isos and torrents are there, but look at the topmost file
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> sd32: yes its not on the homepage but if you dig a little its all there for you
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> eraserhead: is your nvidia card relatively new(ish)
[17:50] <cllaudyu> hello
[17:50] <myrtilles> need some help with my usbstick: lsusb shows the stick is there and recognized, but it does not show in the device-manager. what can i do?
[17:50] <sd32> ActionParsnip, we shouldnt have to "dig" for it.;-0
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> sd32: well you gota dig a little to find ubuntu don't you
[17:50] <cllaudyu> how do i install konversation with kde 4.2?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> myrtilles: does the partition show up in sudo fdisk -l
[17:51] <sd32> ActionParsnip, no it was more obvious, imo
[17:51] <draik> cllaudyu: sudo apt-get install konversation
[17:51] <cllaudyu> the new version?
[17:51] <menax> I have wine, but I have not the directory streucture installed!! how can I fix that?
[17:51] <cllaudyu> draik
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> sd32: its less digging than buying a pc with windows preinstalled
[17:51] <faileas> cllaudyu: no, you need to get the KDE4 konversation off another place i think
[17:51] <eraserhead> ActionParsnip: yeah, it has one year.
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> eraserhead: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[17:51] <sd32> ActionParsnip, well if you put it that way i guess your right
[17:52] <draik> cllaudyu: This is per 'apt-cache policy'   Installed: 1.1-1ubuntu2
[17:52] <draik> That's also the candidate
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> sd32: youu are right though, the md5 should be on the home page along with the download link
[17:52] <myrtilles> ActionParsnip: yes it shows up, along with a lot of output, you want to see? (its not the same pc, as wireless isn't working either :/ )
[17:52] <PROject-Emerald> Can someone help me? My Adept keeps crashing and won't work...
[17:52] <eraserhead> ActionParsnip: it should be done through kmenu -> applications -> system -> hardware drivers
[17:52] <draik> cllaudyu: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages
[17:52] <cllaudyu> ok thanks
[17:52] <eraserhead> ActionParsnip: so it edits xorg.conf automatically
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> myrtilles: if it shows up in nthe output thats fine, you can then mount it
[17:52] <gosse> still missing some plugins for my audio... what do i need to isntall? already did the restricted extras :D
[17:53] <Phokian> oceanwatcher: Thx, cya
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> eraserhead: jaunty has graphics driver weirdness, as sudo nvidia-xconfig is not used now
[17:53] <myrtilles> ActionParsnip: yes, i know, that i can mount it. But I want it to show in the device manager widget.
[17:54] <sathia> hi, any idea why the wireless is dead slow? I'm going at 10Mb/s on a 802.11n router and wifi card. it's frustrating
[17:54] <draik> I now have a 6s lag on konversation :(
[17:54] <eraserhead> is it normal that kde4 takes 40% of the CPU ?
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> myrtilles: im not sure there, i dont use widgets
[17:55] <draik> eraserhead: I had a similar issue. Nothing changed but it went away on its own
[17:55] <gosse> (BTW; i know it's a little off topic, but many people here are aware of it) for those of you who are aware of my (lorecaster) cunnundrum... i gave up on wine and all that mess, ended up with vbox2.2 and win7 running aCAD2010... -tear- hope it works. cheers!
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> eraserhead: it'll be less after drivers
[17:55] <sd32> ActionParsnip, are the ubuntu and kubuntu the same md5?
[17:55] <eraserhead> ActionParsnip: which drivers?»
[17:55] <myrtilles> ActionParsnip or show it as external media in the kstartmenu or have a popup asking me if i want to mount the stick
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> sd32: no, ubuntu uses gnome and metacity by default
[17:56] <eraserhead> is there some option i can had to xorg.conf to improve the graphics card performance? it's a nvidia.
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> sd32: kubuntu uses kde and kwin so the files will have a different md5
[17:56] <sathia> all your wifi cards are doing good?
[17:56] <sd32> ActionParsnip, ok you gave me the ubuntu md5 page?
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> myrtilles: if you open dolphin, is the partition available there
[17:57] <billyd> Trying out 9.04 and Quassel.
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> sd32: can you name me the file you have and i'll get the sum for you
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> sd32: just the name
[17:58] <sd32> ActionParsnip, the kubuntu 386 9.04 live cd
[17:58] <myrtilles> Actionparsnip: no, it isn't
[17:58] <eraserhead> is it normal that kde4 takes 40% of the CPU ?
[17:58] <gilles> hello I have a problem with network-manager-kde update, I need help
[17:58] <tacosarecool> Was kubuntu supposed to install konversation mine didn't
[17:58] <doleyb> eraserhead: that's bad, but its been a common problem today.  relog and see if it still happen.
[17:59] <menax> I miss Konversation, why quassel by default?
[17:59] <tacosarecool> install quassel from synaptic
[17:59] <tacosarecool> I mean konversation
[17:59] <gosse> i installedonversation FIRST thing on my new install :P
[18:00] <tacosarecool> My kde doesn't work
[18:00] <tacosarecool> My gnome does though but I prefer kde
[18:00] <tacosarecool> .
[18:00] <sd32> ActionParsnip, i do a google search for kubuntu md5 and irt comes up with  a bunch of ubuntu links
[18:00] <gosse> pfft, i prefer gnome anyway. tried using KDE, but i want performance-performance-performance :D you can change the boot-manager, or you can uninstall gnome. that's what i was told
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> sd32: easier way is to calculate the md5 of the file and websearch that
[18:01] <eraserhead> can someone help improving the performance??
[18:01] <eraserhead> *to improve
[18:01] <tacosarecool> If I uninstall gnome then I don't get all the programs is the thing.
[18:01] <gilles> I have this error message : dpkg : erreur de traitement de network-manager-kde_1%3a0.7svn887517~2.19-0ubuntu1~ppa2_amd64.deb (--install) :
[18:01] <gilles>  tentative de remplacement de « /usr/share/kde4/services/kded/knetworkmanager.desktop », qui appartient aussi au paquet plasma-widget-network-manager
[18:01] <gilles> dpkg-deb: sous-processus paste tué par le signal (Relais brisé (pipe))
[18:01] <gilles> Des erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution :
[18:01] <gilles>  network-manager-kde_1%3a0.7svn887517~2.19-0ubuntu1~ppa2_amd64.deb
[18:01] <tacosarecool> that were in ubuntu
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> sd32: http://ftp.hostrino.com/pub/ubuntu/cdimage/kubuntu/jaunty/MD5SUMS
[18:01] <gosse> eraserhead... my method was to disable all virtual effects, add/remove away everything i didn't need, and went with gnome.
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> sd32: if your file has 'rc' in the name you need that sum
[18:02] <gilles> what must I do ?
[18:02] <gosse> tacosarecool, it's only to set KDE as you default in system settings, as i recall
[18:02] <sd32> ActionParsnip, man thats a convoluted link..lol
[18:02] <eraserhead> gosse: your solution sucks.
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> sd32: how so?
[18:02] <tacosarecool> yeah but still ubuntu comes with alot of stuff
[18:03] <gosse> eraserhead, i'm just trying to help. there's no need to get rude. it's the path i took, and it worked for me. if you have a better idea, than pose it rather than tearing down those who try and help... please.
[18:03] <tacosarecool> is it ok that I only made my root 10gb and I have gnome and kde
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> sd32: the server hold many cdimages so the link is extremely logical
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> sd32: if you read it it makes a tonne of sense
[18:04] <sd32> ActionParsnip,its on a weird server "hostintro.com"  and looks to be a  sub link on a ubuntu page
[18:04] <|dthacker|> tacosarecool: what other filesystems do you have?   Is /home or /usr a separate filesystem?
[18:04] <tacosarecool> /home and /
[18:04] <|dthacker|> tacosarecool: how much free space do you have now?
[18:04] <tacosarecool> and I have some free space lol I couldn't figure out how to give the free space to home
[18:04] <tacosarecool> 8.9 gb lol
[18:05] <myrtilles> ActionParsnip: The Usbsticks aren't shown, I just tested a DVD which works fine. It shows in Dolphin and the device maanger
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> sd32: its not convoluted though
[18:05] <sd32> ActionParsnip, i guess whats easy for some is difficult for others
[18:05] <tacosarecool> I think or 8mb
[18:05] <tacosarecool> But I have plenty of space I think anyway
[18:05] <|dthacker|> tacosarecool: there's a big difference :)
[18:05] <tacosarecool> 90.3 gb on home and 10.2 gb on /
[18:06] <tacosarecool> and 2.3gb for swap
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> wow thats a lot of swap
[18:06] <|dthacker|> tacosarecool: I don't think you will have any problems.
[18:06] <tacosarecool> 2 is a good amount
[18:06] <tacosarecool> yeah
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> depends if you are using it
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> tacosarecool: if you run free, you may find you arent using it
[18:07] <|dthacker|> and if you're using it, you need more memory!
[18:07] <tacosarecool> I have 1 gb
[18:07] <sd32> ActionParsnip, it should be on kubuntu.com/md5 or something easier to find but i dont want to make it a big deal
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> sd32: well i thin it shouldbe on the same page as the downloads, the hyperlnk can pont anywhere
[18:08] <tacosarecool> 1 gb of ram of course
[18:08] <sd32> ActionParsnip, agreed
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> tacosarecool: if you never use more than 1 gb ram, you dont need swap
[18:09] <tacosarecool> swap is fine
[18:09] <sathia> hello, anyone know how to speed up a   INTEL PRO 4965
[18:09] <eraserhead> gosse: kubuntu uses kde. ubuntu uses gnome. it is a stupid thing to use gnome in kubuntu.
[18:09] <eraserhead> gosse: kubuntu uses kde. ubuntu uses gnome. it is a stupid thing to use gnome in kubuntu.
[18:10] <tacosarecool> On how well of a cooled system?
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> sathia: its offtopic here
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> !ot | sathia
[18:10] <sathia> dude, it's a wifi card ON ubuntu
[18:11] <nfrs> hi
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> sathia: then you can set the rate in /etc/network/interfaces (i believe)
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> !hi | nfrs
[18:11] <nfrs> how can I configure the keypress speed?
[18:12] <tacosarecool> you can't speed up wifi cards
[18:12] <sathia> how I would do that?
[18:12] <sathia> the router is 80211.n capable, the card is too
[18:12] <sathia> when i transfer an iso all i get is 2 Mb/s
[18:12] <nfrs> I mean the speed of repetitions, when the same key remains pressed
[18:12] <sathia> iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M does nothing
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> tacosarecool: you can tell the device to use a certain rate
[18:13] <tacosarecool> That's the server side safia
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> sathia: bah thats what I was shooting for
[18:13] <sathia> then it's useless
[18:13] <sathia> too bad
[18:13] <werner_> Any updates on the Jaunty XServer Freeze prob?
[18:14] <myrtilles> any idee how to get my WiFi working, it worked fine with intrepid
[18:14] <sathia> bt4-beta.iso   5%   46MB   2.7MB/s   04:57 ETA
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> sathia: try: sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 11M
[18:14] <tacosarecool> I'm going to try reinstalling kubuntu
[18:14] <tacosarecool> but this time under synaptic
[18:14] <sathia> same slowness
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> sathia: is your wifi device known as wlan0?
[18:15] <sathia> yep
[18:16] <sathia> wlan0     IEEE 802.11abgn
[18:16] <sathia>           Mode:Managed  Fre
[18:16] <sathia>           Bit Rate=11 Mb/s
[18:16] <sathia> iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M -> Bit Rate=54 Mb/s, but it's the same
[18:16] <sathia> nothing changes
[18:17] <Amine27> hello everyone
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> sathia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/203506
[18:18] <nfrs> how can I configure the delay and speed of keypress repetition? that is, when a key is pressed and held
[18:18] <Amine27> I can't upgrade from 8.10 -> 9.04 from CD-ROM, kdesudo "/media/cdrom/cdromupgrade" -> Command not found
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Amine27: are you using the alternate cd?
[18:18] <Amine27> yes
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Amine27: then the command will be in the root of wherever you mount the cd
[18:19] <tacosarecool> hmm
[18:19] <tacosarecool> How do I make my kde work?
[18:19] <sathia> ActionParsnip: thanks, I'm currently on kubuntu 9.4
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> sathia: it may help
[18:19] <sathia> ok
[18:20] <IppatsuMan> nfrs: K Menu -> Computer -> System settings -> Keyboard & Mouse
[18:20] <nfrs> IppatsuMan: there are no relevant settings there
[18:20] <nfrs> IppatsuMan: the dialog has 4 sections on the left side: Mouse, Joystick, Standard Keyboard Shortcuts, Global Keyboard Shortcuts
[18:20] <nfrs> IppatsuMan: none of these sections has relevant controls
[18:21] <Amine27> ActionParsnip: i tested kdesudo "/media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade" and in the root, but same msg
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> nfrs: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-978590.html
[18:22] <IppatsuMan> nfrs: I suppose you're not using KDE 4.2, are you?
[18:22] <nfrs> IppatsuMan: I am, kubuntu 9.04
[18:23] <tacosarecool> I still can't make my kde work ..(
[18:23] <nfrs> ActionParsnip: that's good, thanks, but I'd also like to investigate, why I can't do it through the GUI
[18:23] <desu> official syslinux seems to fail with jaunty while creating bootable USB disks or CDs due to gfxboot... can someone point me to somewhere where i can download the syslinux which will work with Jaunty?
[18:23] <nfrs> ActionParsnip: #kde says that there should also be "Keyboard" section in "Keyboard & Mouse"
[18:24] <theuser1>  is it true that if i ssh some other computer. that computer can also control my shell at that time?
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> nfrs: sometimes the gui just doesnt cut it
[18:25] <steven_> hpplo
[18:25] <nfrs> ActionParsnip: yes, but this is not the case. keyboard rate and delay were always adjustable through the GUI, and I'd like it to stay that way
[18:25] <IppatsuMan> nfrs: that's odd... I'm on Kubuntu 9.04 and the left side has 5 sections, the first being "keyboard" (see http://tr.im/jHeE for a screenshot)
[18:25] <steven_> hallo
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> nfrs: well you can spend days killing yourself trying to find a gui way or add a single line to a simple text file
[18:25] <nfrs> ActionParsnip: I suppose the upgrade screwed something up. perhaps I'm missing a package
[18:25] <tacosarecool> my kde doesn't even work
[18:25] <tacosarecool> its stuck at the splash screen
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> tacosarecool: restart x, see if it comes to fruition
[18:26] <tacosarecool> Ok
[18:26] <nfrs> anyone knows what are the packages that go into the "System Settings"?
[18:27] <root> does anyone know how I can fix dpkg or adept ? they are broken,
[18:27] <nfrs> hmm, it seems it's just systemsettings
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> root: can you give the ouput of: sudo apt-get update
[18:28] <agoole> ActionParsnip: ok, give me a sec,
[18:28] <nfrs> so, can anyone figure out, why after upgrade from 8.10 I don't have "Keyboard" in systemsettings -> Keyboard & Mouse?
[18:29] <agoole> ActionParsnip: I'm in console mode, and I can't seem to use a different TTY
[18:29] <agoole> ActionParsnip: but it kept returning an error, about dpkg,
[18:29] <theuser1>  does any one here have ssh server runing ?
[18:30] <agoole> ActionParsnip: the error was a code (1) or something
[18:30] <setuid_w00t> Is there a way to get aptitude to download packages, but not install them?
[18:30] <tacosarecool2> kde still not working
[18:31] <sd32> ActionParsnip, thanks for the help but you gave me the rc client md5 page
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> sd32: np bro
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> agoole: if you have a web connection from it
[18:31] <agoole> ActionParsnip: I am online right now, using tty1, that seems to be all I can use
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> agoole: you can use pastebinit
[18:32] <tacosarecool2> My kde still isn't working sadly.
[18:32] <IppatsuMan> setuid_w00t: aptitude download packagename
[18:32] <agoole> ActionParsnip: how do I go about that ?
[18:32] <sd32> ActionParsnip, is there a final release md5 page or are they the same?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> sd32: i'm sure they will be different too
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> sd32: if youu make your pc calculate the sum, you can websearch the generated sum, see if it comes up
[18:33] <sd32> ActionParsnip, im not that advanced
[18:33] <nfrs> *stuck*
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> sd32: its not advaned at all
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> sd32: md5sum <iso file>
[18:34] <agoole> ActionParsnip: let me reboot normally, and try to see if I can use all the tty's
[18:34] <tacosarecool2> anyone? know the fix?
[18:34] <Guest46802> where do I configure my graphic driver? Is there a tool like in ubuntu?
[18:34] <sd32> ActionParsnip, oh ok thanks
[18:34] <PROject-Emerald> Are there any good Kubuntu antiviruses? Like do I need one? I'm thinking avast! Linux
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> sd32: once its completed, copy the sum, paste into a search engine and see if you get hits
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> sd32: how is that advanced?
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> !virus | PROject-Emerald
[18:35] <sd32> ActionParsnip, thats kinda backwards but okk
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> Guest46802: can you give the output of : lspci | grep -i vga
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> sd32: achives the same end, who cares
[18:36] <Guest46802> ActionParsnip, radeon driver is used for ATI Radeon X800 XTPE
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> !ati
[18:36] <sd32> ActionParsnip, but if its a bad iso to start with then it wont bring back any results
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> sd32: exactly, thats when you know its bad
[18:36]  * tacosarecool2 KDE doesn't work for me it's still stuck at the splash screen!
[18:36] <agoole> ActionParsnip: ok, I can now use multiple tty
[18:37] <sd32> ActionParsnip, then how do i find the right one to verify to save me lots of work that would be simplier
[18:37] <agoole> ActionParsnip: I just can't seem to get dpkg and/or adept to fix themselves
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> sd32: caan you give the exact filename
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> agoole: if you can get the output to a pastebin I can diagnose
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> agoole: i'm sure theres a way to output the text
[18:38] <sd32> ActionParsnip, kubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386
[18:38] <agoole> ActionParsnip: well, I only have use of the console. And I can recreate the error
[18:39] <agoole> ActionParsnip: do you know a quick way to copy paste in console ?
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> sd32: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3103081
[18:39] <henry_BR> I upgrade to kubuntu 9.04 and my kpackage was working normally, but now the apps aren't shown and I don't  know how to fix it. The message is: "
[18:39] <henry_BR> A problem that we were not expecting has occurred.
[18:39] <henry_BR> Please report this bug with the error description.
[18:39] <sd32> ActionParsnip, thanks
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> agoole: not sure, but you can do stuff like: sudo apt-get update 1>~/output.txt; sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit ~/output.txt
[18:40] <sd32> ActionParsnip, its in a forum..lol
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> sd32: does the job
[18:40] <sd32> ActionParsnip, i does
[18:40] <Matisse> ActionParsnip, this wiki always explains the Ubuntu-way to configure. I dont have "System->Administration->Hardware Drivers"
[18:40] <sd32> *it
[18:41] <awesome_> hi to all
[18:41] <sd32> ActionParsnip, its funny that sombody had to ask in a forum to get it
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> agoole: its gonna be something like that
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> sd32: lil bit, its real important too
[18:42] <agoole> ActionParsnip: looked it up, and I can't use it, not with my broken packages...
[18:42] <awesome_> can anyone please tell me how to use  plugin  in konversation so that i can have big fonts and can also various designs in writing
[18:42] <sd32> ActionParsnip, yes it is..:-)
[18:42] <agoole> ActionParsnip: is there a way to force a reinstall of all the packages ?
[18:42] <awesome_> can anyone please tell me how to use  plugin  in konversation so that i can have big fonts and can also various designs in writing ?/
[18:42] <henry_BR> can anyone help me?
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> agoole: sudo apt-get --reinstall install <name>
[18:42] <tacosarecool2> KDE doesn't work for me.
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> !doesntwork | tacosarecool2
[18:43] <awesome_> can anyone please tell me how to use  plugin  in konversation so that i can have big fonts and can also various designs in writing ?/
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> henry_BR: ask, the room will reply if it can
[18:43] <tacosarecool2> KDE doesn't work it's stuck at the splash screen.
[18:43] <awesome_> can anyone please tell me how to use  plugin  in konversation so that i can have big fonts and can also various designs in writing ?/
[18:43] <nfrs> still stuck, repeating: can anyone figure out, why after upgrade from 8.10 I no longer have "Keyboard" in systemsettings -> Keyboard & Mouse?
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> tacosarecool2: do you get a logon screen?
[18:44] <tacosarecool2> yes but when I launch kde its stuck at the splash screen gnome works fine
[18:44] <agoole> ActionParsnip: I tried to reinstall dpkg, but it says I need to enter sudo apt-get -f install
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> nfrs: how did you upgrade?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> agoole: ok, do that
[18:45] <kazagistar_> I have a i7 system, but /proc/cpuinfo only lists 1 of the 8 cores (4 processors each with hyperthreading)
[18:45] <nfrs> ActionParsnip: through the adept GUI. it offered to upgrade, and I did
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> nfrs: ok cool
[18:45] <mattik> Hello. I cannot upgrade all packages as kde-printer-app and packagekit. I had to remove it because of errors. I'm using Kubuntu Jaunty 9.04 with finnish repos
[18:45] <agoole> ActionParsnip: I tried, and that returns a broken pipe paste error, with sub process dpkg returning an error code 1
[18:46] <agoole> ActionParsnip: this is where I reach my limit of knowledge, haha
[18:47] <agoole> ActionParsnip: the errors were encoutered while processing kdebase-runtime-data for ubuntu1_all.deb if that helps
[18:48] <tacosarecool2> of course
[18:48] <tacosarecool2> ctrl alt f8 ctrl alt f7
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> tacosarecool2: ok log onto the console session and run: mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_old   and then reboot
[18:48] <tacosarecool2> you mean fail safe right?
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> tacosarecool2: thatd work too
[18:49] <jirka_> Good evening I have installed new version of Kubuntu, catalyst 9.4, but I have problems with video playback (It seems that xv video isn't working) how can I check If it is enabled or enable it? (the problem is in dragon player and in mplayer when xv output is selected)
[18:49] <tacosarecool2> ok
[18:49] <tacosarecool2> thanks
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> tacosarecool2: if you boot to failsafe root console your home will not be /home/<name> i'd make sure you are in the right place using cd /home/<what username can't log on>
[18:51] <agoole> man this is giving me a headach.
[18:51] <agoole> argh
[18:51] <rednine> is there any way to use wpa2 wireless int kubuntu 9.04?
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> !wpa
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> rednine: some cards cant do wpa in linux
[18:52] <rednine> i had debian on this laptop and i could connect
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> rednine: thats cool
[18:53] <rednine> i would thing there would be a way to do it with 9.04
[18:53] <rednine> *think
[18:53] <agoole> ActionParsnip: when I try to update, it gets all the packages fine, but then stops with that error...
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> rednine: there is, the link will detail it afaik
[18:53] <rednine> checking... thanks
[18:54] <rednine> i tried wpa_supplicent and wpa_gui but couldent get it to play nice
[18:58] <drkto> Hi
[18:59] <tacosarecool> Should I run wicd
[18:59] <tacosarecool> ?
[19:00] <tacosarecool> for kubuntu.
[19:00] <theuser1> can someone ssh to me desktop or control it by nx client.iam runing freenx server.         i just want to make sure it works and observer that can i see what happening on the destkop?
[19:02] <tacosarecool> Me going to use wicd
[19:11] <Matisse> how do I downgrade to kubuntu 8.10 ?
[19:12] <HighHo> !downgrade | Matisse:
[19:12] <agoole> can anyone help me with fixing some broken packages ?
[19:17] <agoole> how do I fix a broken dpkg package ?
[19:18] <mattik> !ati
[19:18] <agoole> !dpkg
[19:18] <goshawk> agoole: apt-get -f install
[19:18] <agoole> goshawk: I tried, but it just crashes with error code 1,
[19:18] <goshawk> agoole: it will solve dpkg problems
[19:19] <kazagistar_> agoole: try downloading it manually, and then using dpkg to directly install it, that worked for me a couple times? does not seem like the right way, though
[19:19] <goshawk> agoole: no messages?
[19:19] <Fieldy> !nvidia
[19:19] <agoole> goshawk: let me read and type it, i'm stuck in console because of this
[19:20] <agoole> goshawk: sub process /usr/bin/dpkg returned error code 1
[19:20] <goshawk> agoole: jaunty + ext4?
[19:20] <agoole> goshawk: while processing a package,
[19:20] <agoole> goshawk: just jaunty.
[19:21] <Matisse> !compiz
[19:21] <agoole> goshawk: still using the ext3, and its just an upgrade
[19:21] <goshawk> agoole: ok wait
[19:22] <goshawk> agoole: can you paste the whole error in pastebin.ca
[19:22] <goshawk> and point us the link?
[19:22] <agoole> goshawk: how do I do this from console only ?
[19:22] <fwaokda> can anyone here take a look at a problem I'm having? I realize its for ubuntu but figured since I couldn't find anyone that could help me in the ubuntu channel I might have some luck here.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7144804#post7144804
[19:23] <goshawk> agoole: well paste it to me into a private chat " /query goshawk"
[19:23] <goshawk> ciao _admiral0_ :)
[19:24] <agoole> goshawk: hum...how do I copy and paste the output of apt-get upgrade ?
[19:24] <henry_BR> I'm having problems with update/packages/adept/kpackage. The description is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/158083/ . Anyone can help me? Thanks.
[19:24] <_admiral0_> ciao goshawk
[19:24] <theuser1>  is there a way that i can see my ssh details. who is logged in to my ssh server or freenx and what is he doing?
[19:26] <executionist> can someone help me manually configure my network
[19:26] <Dragnslcr> theuser1- looking at the process list will show every active user's shell process
[19:27] <theuser1> Dragnslcr: how to see proces
[19:28] <HighHo> theuser1: type "ps x" into konsole or "ps x -A" to see all processes
[19:28] <agoole> man these broken packages have me bafoozald
[19:28] <Dragnslcr> theuser1- ctrl-esc will bring up krunner
[19:29] <Samdotm> hi everybody
[19:29] <executionist> apparantely i am connected to the internet, i need to manually change some settings. how can i bring up my active connections
[19:29] <agoole> is there a way for me to remove all of kde packages ? and then force a reinstall of all of them ?
[19:31] <Fieldy> hello, I'm trying to get nvidia drivers (nvidia-glx-180) working in 9.04. I had them working fine in 8.10. I have followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia . the nvidia module is in the modules directory for the kernel i'm using, however, modprobe nvidia doesn't work, it says the module doesn't exist. but it's right there. there are no errors from dmesg. any ideas?
[19:31] <HighHo> agoole: you can try "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop --reinstall" im not sure if it will work however as kubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[19:31] <agoole> HighHo: ok, let me try
[19:32] <agoole> it still says i have unmet dependencies, and to run install -f
[19:33] <agoole> HighHo: but if I run that, it just crashes, with an error code 1 for dpkg
[19:33] <HighHo> what happens when you run "sudo apt-get install -f"?
[19:33] <Samdotm> Can anyone help me solving my problem, I cant install the nvidia drivers without losing my gnu once my computer reboot, I always have the console on when iam back on kubuntu, I have kubuntu 9.04, graphic card 2x nvidia Geforce 9600gt sli
[19:33] <agoole> HighHo: a huge list of updates and upgrades, then I say yes
[19:33] <Wizzleby> Can someone direct me where to start reading on how to configure a default resolution in 9.04? On every log out. KDM defaults to 1600x1200@60hz, and so I have to manually change to 1280x1024@77hz then reload desktop compositing at every log in
[19:33] <tacosarecool> kubuntu works great ..)
[19:34] <agoole> HighHo: then, it crashes, with a broken pipe error, error code 1 for dpkg
[19:34] <executionist> someone -> apparantely i am connected to the internet, i need to manually change some settings. how can i bring up my active connections
[19:34] <tacosarecool> wicd
[19:34] <tacosarecool> you should install WICD.
[19:34] <Fieldy> Samdotm: that's the same problem I am having, though with a 9600 non-sli. i had to sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart    but then it still only is using software accel for me. i'm still trying to resolve the issue.
[19:34] <agoole> HighHo: the errors are encountered while processing kdebase-runtime-data
[19:35] <HighHo> agoole: Have you used custom repos at any point?
[19:36] <goshawk> agoole: if you run aptitude you may have many options to threat this error
[19:36] <agoole> goshawk: i tried them all, they just all halt with the same error code
[19:36] <agoole> HighHo: no, nothing custom.
[19:36] <Samdotm> Fieldy:  Ah, well i am not the only one, i though i was doing something wrong, what annoys me is that once the driver install, i cant get my gnu back, so i had to re-install kubuntu about 10 times since its release
[19:37] <agoole> HighHo: always the regular repos. and all was fine, until kde didn't boot
[19:37] <executionist> can someone help me :/
[19:37] <agoole> HighHo: then I checked, and a ton of packages have unmet dependencies or are brokne
[19:37] <agoole> HighHo: now I can't fix them
[19:38] <Fieldy> Samdotm: i'm not sure what you mean by gnu though, sorry
[19:38] <goshawk> agoole: dpkg --force-all --purge kdebase-runtime-data
[19:38] <goshawk> it will delete the package
[19:38] <goshawk> no matter errors
[19:38] <goshawk> if it was what you were looking for..
[19:39] <Samdotm> Fieldy: oh sorry, just i saw that term somewhere, like the graphic desktop of kubuntu, instead of having the login screen, i only have the console
[19:39] <HighHo> agoole: you can also try as goshaek suggested something like "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade"
[19:39] <agoole> ok, that works, now lets try an update and upgrade :S
[19:39]  * agoole crosses fingers
[19:39] <goshawk> agoole:
[19:39] <goshawk> wait
[19:39] <Fieldy> Samdotm: ohh okay. i think you mean "gui" then. no big deal. apparently i need linux-headers installed, which I didn't, I'm trying that now, we'll see what happens.
[19:39] <goshawk> do
[19:39] <goshawk> aptitude update
[19:40] <agoole> goshawk: ok, then what /
[19:40] <BleSS> how to change the video mode when is running kde --where is showed a line from left to right--?
[19:40] <goshawk> and then aptitude upgrade
[19:40] <chx> is ther a conversion script for my konversation identities to quassel?
[19:40] <chx> I *really* do not want to reconfigure
[19:41] <agoole> goshawk: argh, aptitude quits because there are too many errors
[19:41] <goshawk> agoole: how is it going?
[19:41] <executionist> bah someone answer me too
[19:41] <agoole> goshawk: I should try removing all of kde i think
[19:42] <goshawk> agoole: do apt-get -f install first
[19:42] <goshawk> "apt-get -f install"
[19:42] <moreno> hi
[19:42] <goshawk> hi moreno
[19:42] <agoole> goshawk: still the same error,
[19:43] <goshawk> agoole: in the same packagE?
[19:43] <agoole> goshawk: yes.
[19:43] <goshawk> -__--
[19:43] <Luis> 	
[19:43] <Luis> know what the Spanish channel
[19:43] <agoole> goshawk: its not even installed....
[19:44] <Samdotm> is there anyone who can help me installing the nvidia drivers, i tried with envyng, Hardware Drivers Tool and manually, the installation seems to go well, but when i reboot, i have a console instead of the gui, anyone knows what to do?
[19:44] <HighHo> agoole: I think the problem with removing all kde packages is not going to guarentee a fix and you might get the same issue when trying to reinstall them
[19:45] <agoole> HighHo: this is why I think the problem could be with dpkg.. but how do I fix that ?
[19:46] <agoole> HighHo: maybe I can revert dpkg to an old version ?
[19:46] <BleSS> how to hide the input/quit messages in quassel?
[19:47] <HighHo> agoole: can you use pastebin and put all the output from running "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[19:47] <Luis> 	 	
[19:47] <Luis> know what the Spanish channel?
[19:47] <myrtilles> !es
[19:48] <goshawk> agoole: can't you come here from a livecd
[19:48] <goshawk> and show us all the dpkg errors?
[19:48] <agoole> oh.....hum...
[19:48] <agoole> probably eh
[19:48] <Luis> 	
[19:48] <Luis> thanks, is that I do not speak English
[19:48] <agoole> ok, let me run out and get the cd, i'll be back though,
[19:48] <Luis> bye bye
[19:48] <goshawk> or... if you just want a clean install, you can also use the livecd to backup your data
[19:50] <lovre> i have a big problem... NOTHING in compiz is wroking on key press. I cant SUPER+E, i cant CTRL+ALR+DOWN, i cant do anything, it just doesnt catch input????? what is happening
[19:51] <chx> I will reinstall Jaunty clean once my nVidia card is in.
[19:52] <ken> chx, I don
[19:53] <chx> ken: ?
[19:54] <ken> chx i dont see where you are having proplems. is it the card or the system
[19:54] <chx> ken: i have a mess , upping from hardy to jaunty and i am currently on the vesa driver and that's the only thing that works , there seems to be a bug w/ ATI and Xorg 1.6
[19:54] <chx> ken: i have all sorts of KDE3 and KDE4 programs all over the place
[19:55] <chx> ken: And Flash 10 does not produce any sound
[19:55] <ken> is your card ati or nvidia.
[19:55] <chx> ATI
[19:55] <chx> I have a 740G motherboard
[19:55] <ubuntu> and i'm back
[19:55] <chx> but ordered a 8400GS
[19:55] <ubuntu> goshawk: ok i'm back
[19:55] <executionist> can someone help me with managing my connections :S
[19:56] <devilsadvocate_> i dont have sound on flash either on intel hardware in jaunty
[19:56] <devilsadvocate_> i dont think its a hardware issue
[19:56] <ubuntu> devilsadvocate_: hey, I had to disable my onboard sound in the bios for mine to work
[19:56] <ubuntu> devilsadvocate_: and its been the case for several others as well
[19:56] <chx> I only have onboard sound.
[19:56] <devilsadvocate_> if you disable onboard sound how does sound come out :\
[19:57] <agoole> devilsadvocate_: do you only have onboard sound ?
[19:57] <chx> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[19:57] <chx> whether now this is an ATI device or Intel, who knows.
[19:57] <devilsadvocate_> agoole, yep
[19:57] <chx> seems ATI, though.
[19:57] <devilsadvocate_> agoole, its a laptop
[19:57] <agoole> devilsadvocate_: you could try removing pulseaudio, and using alsa instead
[19:57] <ken> chx first did you do a complete upgrade to jaunty including software
[19:58] <chx> ken: i did a dist-upgraed
[19:59] <ken> ok, does everything work other than getting the video driver installed.
[19:59] <BleSS> how to change the video mode when is starting up --where is showed a line from left to right--?
[19:59] <Mannequin1> has ctrl + alt + backspace been disabled on 9.04? can't restart X by using that shortcut)
[19:59] <Wizzleby> Restating a question from earlier: Can anyone point me in the right direction to set a default resolution in 9.04? My display keeps reverting to 1600x1200
[19:59] <agoole> Mannequin1: its been disabled, yes, but you can enable it
[20:00] <executionist> why wont anyone answer mee?
[20:00] <Wizzleby> Mannequin1: Yes go to system settings-> display, and check 'ctrl-alt-backspace resets X'
[20:00] <agoole> goshawk: hey around ?
[20:00] <agoole> executionist: whats your question ?
[20:00] <executionist> i dont see my connections so i can edit them
[20:00] <BleSS_> how to change the video mode when is starting up --where is showed a line from left to right--?
[20:01] <Newberz> Hello all
[20:01] <agoole> BleSS_: wait until someone can answer you
[20:01] <Mannequin1> Wizzleby: thanks. I'm having a hard time trying to configure my touchpad. It worked ok before upgrade, but now the vertical scrolling area is too wide
[20:01] <Mannequin1> and even tapping on a Firefox tab closes the tab (wtf!)
[20:01] <agoole> executionist: what do you want to edit? you mean in the system settings you don't see your adapters ?
[20:01] <Mannequin1> will try that qsynaptics thing
[20:01] <Wizzleby> Mannequin1: OK, I can't help you with that, but I knew the 'dontzap' answer from experience.
[20:02] <Newberz> So I upgraded to 9.04  and it broke my nvidia/Xwindows something.  So I deleted Xorg.conf and now I can get into X but resolution is wrong and I can't seem to get Nvidia drivers installed and running again.  Can some one point me to a howto?
[20:02] <BleSS_> how to hide the input/quit messages in quassel?
[20:02] <executionist> agoole:  i need to manually configure my network, to change my ip and stuff. i want to find the connection through which i am connected to the internet right now, can i do that
[20:02] <executionist> ?
[20:02] <Mannequin1> Wizzleby:  'dontzap' answer? sorry, I didn't get what it means
[20:02] <BleSS_> Newberz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[20:02] <agoole> executionist: yes. go look in your system settings, in your menu, or you can do it via command line
[20:03] <Newberz> BleSS_:  Many thanks
[20:03] <Wizzleby> Mannequin1: in system settings->display, the option to enable ctrl-alt-backspace uses a program called 'dontzap'
[20:03] <executionist> agoole:  the thing is that i dont see any connections there, they are missing
[20:03] <agoole> sudo dontzap --enable
[20:03] <agoole> executionist: are you wired right now ? or using wifi ?
[20:03] <executionist> wired
[20:04] <cinex> hey folks.
[20:04] <cinex> is it ok to upgrade form 8.10 to 9.04 from the command line ?
[20:04] <agoole> executionist: do you have your network manager installed /.
[20:04] <agoole> executionist: ???
[20:04] <agoole> cinex: It worked for me
[20:04] <cinex> nice
[20:04] <executionist> yes i have
[20:04] <cinex> its on your head agoole
[20:05] <agoole> cinex: haha, i'll keep that in mind
[20:05] <BluesKaj> yes. cinex , sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:05] <agoole> cinex: follow the instructions online
[20:05] <executionist> no connections under wired there, when there should have been 2 connections :S
[20:05] <cinex> what about sis graphics?
[20:05] <cinex> they are dodgy in 8.10 as it is
[20:05] <agoole> executionist: ok, let me check something
[20:05] <cinex> using vesa
[20:05] <executionist> ok
[20:06] <Mannequin1> btw, when trying to use "sudo command", I can't get the konsole to autocomplete commands
[20:06] <Supari> Ok i have a  major problem with  these widgets
[20:06] <Mannequin1> in other words, autocomplete works, but no if sudo is at the beginning of the command
[20:06] <Supari> when i try to install  using  the web installer from  widgit manager  it says  failed
[20:06] <agoole> executionist: can you open something for me
[20:06] <agoole> executionist: open terminal
[20:06] <executionist> ok
[20:07] <agoole> executionist: and type, nano /etc/network/interfaces
[20:07] <Newberz> BleSS_:  Sorry I am a bit slow.  From that article it sounds like I will need to recreate my Xorg.conf?
[20:07] <agoole> Newberz: its just a text file, which is easily overwritten, or often has mistakes in it
[20:07] <executionist> auto lo
[20:07] <executionist> iface lo inet loopback
[20:07] <agoole> executionist: thats it ? just the two lines ?
[20:07] <executionist> yeah
[20:07] <agoole> executionist: uh oh
[20:08] <agoole> executionist: you are lucky just to be online
[20:08] <agoole> executionist: have your cards been reconised by ubuntu before ?
[20:08] <executionist> this is my first day on ubuntu
[20:08] <executionist> never used before
[20:08] <agoole> executionist: ok
[20:08] <agoole> executionist: old computer ? or laptop ?
[20:09] <Idzme> dolphin opens fullscreen without window decoration (so no  close button etc)
[20:09] <Idzme> no emerald is running
[20:09] <executionist> fairly old computer, 3.2 ghz HT
[20:09] <Idzme> kdenlive has the same problem!
[20:09] <Idzme> anyone who can help me fix this??
[20:09] <agoole> executionist: hum...maybe jsut your card needs drivers, see if you can find some online
[20:10] <Newberz> agool & BleSS_:  Ok let me start over.  When I did the 9.04 update.  I came back to an error about X not working with my Nvidia drivers.  So being the newb I am.  I deleted my Xorg.conf and uninstalled and reinstalled nvidia a couple times.  I also did the same with envyng-core/qt/gtk/etc... Anyways Envy won't work because of some python related error.  So with my limited knowledge I am not sure how to tackle getting Nvidia drivers wor
[20:10] <Newberz> king with X/KDE again
[20:10] <executionist> hmm sad :( if i cant find them then back to windows?
[20:11] <agoole> executionist: no no, we'll just look to get them working,
[20:11] <cinex> hey
[20:11] <agoole> Newberz: naw, we'll just fix it, lol
[20:11] <cinex> why wont 9.04 install to usb ?
[20:11] <executionist> k lemme try searching for the drivers
[20:11] <agoole> cinex: I have no idea, look online ?
[20:11] <cinex> i am online
[20:11] <cinex> lol
[20:12] <Newberz> agoole:  I was just hopeing some one could suggest a starting point for me to look stuff up.
[20:12] <agoole> Newberz: so will your display start up ok ?
[20:12] <agoole> Newberz: give me an error or starting point
[20:13] <Newberz> agoole.  Yes It works fine with vga with no xorg.conf but nvidia is not loading in lsmod.  And so my resolution is wrong.  Should I just rewrite my xorg?
[20:14] <executionist> brb
[20:14] <agoole> Newberz: when you delete the xorg.conf, a new one is automatically written up right away when you start X
[20:15] <agoole> Newberz: are you using the nvidia drivers that come with the latest jaunty version ?
[20:15] <BluesKaj> Newberz, have you checked your graphics drivers in package in adept manager
[20:15] <Newberz> agoole: Xorg is not longer needed.  And yes I installed the newest nvidia drivers but don't know why they arn't starting on boot.
[20:16] <BluesKaj> newest nvidia drivers from ?
[20:16] <Newberz> BluesKaj: Aptitude
[20:17] <BleSS> how to hide the input/quit messages in quassel?
[20:17] <Newberz> BluesKaj: So er.. ubuntu
[20:17] <BluesKaj> Newberz, I would check in adept by typing in the nvidia model# , to make sure it's the correct driver
[20:18] <amartin83> hello everybody, does anyone tried to install 2,3... distros on one usb pendrive??
[20:19] <Newberz> BluesKaj: Ah drat I think that may be my problem.  Thanks muchly
[20:21] <lovre> i dont understand something. when i install a program, and later remove it, there is allways something left behind, in home folder or in share folder or in bin folder, wherever, but there is something left. So the more programs i try, there is more garbage on my computer. This worries me. am i removing the software wrong, what is this all about
[20:21] <BluesKaj> Newberz , if you see your graphics card listed under one of the drivers (prolly the 180) install that driver , but uninstall the previous one first
[20:22] <theuser1> why is java runing on my proces table?
[20:22] <theuser1> why is java runing on my proces table and taking 50% of cpu?
[20:23] <IppatsuMan> theuser1: maybe a java applet?
[20:23] <theuser1> IppatsuMan:  what kind of
[20:24] <doleyb> theuser1: try ps afx|grep -2 java
[20:24] <theuser1> doleyb:  what will thid do
[20:25] <bokey> lovre: when you remove something you have to remove its configuration files using 'purge' such as 'aptitude purge <somepackage>'. the ones in your home folder can be safely deleted (it contains your personal configuration for a particular softare)
[20:25] <lovre> bokey: will purge also delete the folder from my home folder?
[20:26] <IppatsuMan> lovre: this command may help: « dpkg --purge $(dpkg --list | grep ^rc | awk '{ print $2; }') » it purges all the configuration files left from uninstalled packages (also, bokey is giving you a good advice)
[20:26] <lovre> bokey: if i have allready removed a program, can i still use purge on its config files?
[20:26] <bokey> lovre: depends on the package afaik
[20:26] <bokey> lovre: but most of the package do remove system configs
[20:26] <bokey> on purge i.e
[20:26] <lovre> i see
[20:27] <theuser1> doleyb:  what will thid do
[20:27] <njustin> is kubutu the same exact things as ubuntu, but with KDE desktop or what?
[20:27] <bokey> yes
[20:28] <njustin> :) ty
[20:28] <doleyb> theuser1: print things doing java
[20:28] <theuser1> doleyb:
[20:28] <lovre> IppatsuMan: this command started removing, and now it asks if i want to remove MySQL server 5.0... i dont undestand? what do i say? and how come it is trying to remove this?
[20:28] <theuser1>  ps afx|grep -2 java
[20:28] <theuser1>  1738 pts/2    Ss     0:00  \_ /bin/bash
[20:28] <theuser1>  1755 pts/2    R+     0:00      \_ ps afx
[20:28] <theuser1>  1756 pts/2    S+     0:00      \_ grep -2 java
[20:28] <bokey> !kubuntu > njustin
[20:28] <njustin> :D
[20:28] <doleyb> theuser1: did you still have java running your cpu?  it should have shown up
[20:28] <bokey> theuser1: ps -A | grep java
[20:28] <bokey> !paste > theuser1
[20:29] <theuser1> doleyb:  i terminated that proces
[20:29] <theuser1> brb
[20:29] <goshawk> agoole: did you solve?
[20:30] <astrobear> !audio
[20:30] <agoole> goshawk: no, i'm in the live cd now
[20:30] <goshawk> pastebin.ca of your error in apt-get -f install
[20:30] <goshawk> please
[20:31] <agoole> goshawk: ok
[20:31] <lovre> IppatsuMan: where did you get that command, and is there any gui programs that can do this, since i dont want to write it every time?
[20:31] <BleSS> how to change the video mode when is starting up --where is showed a line from left to right--?
[20:31] <agoole> goshawk: how do I do this for the system, and not hte live cd ?
[20:31] <agoole> goshawk: I need to mount the drive right ?>
[20:32] <goshawk> agoole: mounth the drive
[20:32] <goshawk> and then chroot mountpoint
[20:32] <Guest13605> i had duel boot, when i try to start windows i get Error 21: Selected disk does not exist. i have 2 hard disks
[20:32] <goshawk> sudo chroot mountpoint
[20:34] <horia> hi, I am having some network problems
[20:34] <horia> i have to run some commands every time I restart
[20:34] <horia> to get network to work
[20:34] <horia> ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.3 netmask 255.255.255.0
[20:34] <horia> route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[20:35] <lovre> i have just done: sudo apt-get purge songbird, and after that, there was still folder left at: /home/user/.songbird.... so do i really have to manually remove this folders every time i remove a program??
[20:35] <horia> and then I edit /etc/resolv.conf to put the nameserver in
[20:35] <agoole> goshawk: check your private msgs, i'll send you an error
[20:36] <trancefat> hi all. is there some i can sync korganizer with google calendar
[20:36] <goshawk> agoole: pastebin.ca would be better so anyone can see
[20:37] <Newbumz> BluesKaj:  Yippie it was the wrong driver.  180 solved all of my problems.  Just wanted to say thanks again!
[20:37] <BluesKaj> horia, thru Network Manager /
[20:37] <horia> BluesKaj:  I have tryed, but it ignores my settings
[20:37] <bokey> lovre: you'd have to it seems
[20:37] <agoole> goshawk: I agree, but it was just 2 lines, haha
[20:37] <horia> or I do something wrong
[20:37] <BluesKaj> Newbumz, hey glad to hear it  :)
[20:37] <bokey> horia: can you run knetworkmanager?
[20:37] <agoole> goshawk: want me to pastbin it ?
[20:37] <goshawk> agoole: no
[20:38] <goshawk> ls /mnt/repair/
[20:38] <lovre> bokey: that sucks :(
[20:38] <agoole> goshawk: that gives me my listing of my root, for my ubuntu drive
[20:39] <horia> bokey: I went to system setting > network settings
[20:39] <Guest13605> i had duel boot, when i try to start windows i get Error 21: Selected disk does not exist. i have 2 hard disks
[20:39] <goshawk> agoole: so it's mounted correctly
[20:39] <goshawk> agoole: i was wondering if it was the right place or not
[20:39] <agoole> goshawk: yup, but I dont get that exec error,
[20:39] <agoole> goshawk: I had to mount 6 other partitions before I got the right one....
[20:39] <bokey> horia: do the old school way, it seems theres some problem with knetworkmanager on 9.04
[20:40] <goshawk> file /mnt/repair/bin/bash
[20:40] <goshawk> it's 2 lines, paste here
[20:40] <horia> bokey what is the old scholl way, I am realy new :D
[20:40] <bokey> horia: please paste your /etc/network/interfaces
[20:40] <goshawk> agoole:  do "file /mnt/repair/bin/bash"
[20:40] <bokey> !pastebin | horia
[20:40] <agoole> /mnt/repair/bin/bash: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV),dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, stripped
[20:42] <bokey> horia: are you with me?
[20:42] <goshawk> agoole:  do [/mnt/repair/bin/bash -c "echo not-corrupted " ]
[20:42] <goshawk> the [] are just to separe the command form the text
[20:42] <horia> bokey:  yes, I am trying
[20:42] <horia> seems the widget for pastebin is not working propperly
[20:43] <goshawk> agoole: it's to see if it's corrupted or not
[20:43] <bokey> horia: pastie.org ;)
[20:43] <agoole> goshawk: it returns "cannot execute binary file"
[20:43] <horia> bokey:  http://pastebin.ca/1402985
[20:43] <goshawk> agoole: well, your bin/bash is corrupted
[20:43] <goshawk> and this is the root of all problems
[20:43] <agoole> goshawk: haha, best news I've heard all day....not
[20:44] <agoole> goshawk: at least we konw whats wrong..
[20:44] <goshawk> agoole: this is why nothing can be executed on your system
[20:44] <horia> bokey: remember that I set this manualy from shell
[20:44] <bokey> horia: good is your eth0 up or not?
[20:44] <bokey> horia: yep
[20:44] <goshawk> well, you are on a x86_64 cd, isn't it?
[20:44] <horia> bokey: I am on eth0 now, yes
[20:45] <agoole> goshawk: euh...right now i'm not, jsut hte i386, this is a 64 (quadcore) laptop
[20:45] <bokey> horia: gee then why are you worry abt it?
[20:45] <thomas_> Anybody having issues with console since 9.04 update?
[20:45] <bokey> horia: add a line there though
[20:45] <horia> bokey:  because I have to run the commands every time I restart
[20:45] <goshawk> agoole: the nasty solution was to take the /bin/bash and substitute the corrupted one
[20:45] <agoole> goshawk: is the bash any different between the two ?
[20:45] <goshawk> if you were from a x86_64 livecd it was possible
[20:46] <goshawk> agoole: yep
[20:46] <goshawk> it's different arch
[20:46] <atraylen> Yes my text is funny, kind of squished, not a major issue but mildy annoying
[20:46] <bokey> horia: http://pastebin.ca/1402989
[20:46] <agoole> goshawk: ok, I have that cd somewhere, ugh,
[20:46] <goshawk> agoole: we will get /bin/bash from a deb
[20:46] <agoole> goshawk: how do I replace it, just cp it >
[20:46] <goshawk> yep
[20:46] <goshawk> just cp
[20:46] <goshawk> it
[20:46] <goshawk> but make a copy of the old one
[20:46] <goshawk> something like
[20:46] <agoole> goshawk: can we do this without the cd for now ? i'm sure I can find it online
[20:47] <goshawk> sudo mv /mnt/repair/bin/bash /mnt/repair/bin/bash.old
[20:47] <goshawk> and then cp
[20:47] <goshawk> agoole: yep, i was planning to make you take the deb
[20:47] <agoole> goshawk: ok, can we go and do that ? let me make that back up
[20:47] <bokey> horia: http://pastie.org/458189
[20:47] <bokey> horia: this one should work
[20:48] <horia> bokey:  both sites work, I will try that
[20:48] <agoole> goshawk: ok, backup created.
[20:48] <bokey> yep
[20:48] <Bsims{fs}>  Why is amarok 2 so darn unstable? Why cant I change the layout on it... Why can it not remember I want an album shown under various artists and More importantly WHY does the guess from file name not work AT ALL
[20:48] <goshawk> agoole: packages.ubuntu.com
[20:48] <goshawk> agoole: look for bast
[20:49] <goshawk> bash
[20:50] <agoole> goshawk: ok found it, now, do I want the i386? or the amd64? this is an intel core 2 duo
[20:50] <agoole> goshawk: the amd64 right ?
[20:50] <goshawk> agoole: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bash/bash_3.2-5ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[20:50] <goshawk> amd64
[20:50] <goshawk> yep
[20:50] <goshawk> :)
[20:51] <yaa_> spartak the champion
[20:51] <horia> bokey: very noob question, how can I edit a file as root ? :) preferably in an application with gui
[20:51] <horia> I did sudo su -
[20:51] <bokey> horia: alt+f2, type 'kdesudo <file>'
[20:51] <bokey> horia: that'll make you root
[20:52] <horia> wow, cool tricks :D
[20:52] <goshawk> agoole: ar -x packagename.deb
[20:52] <bokey> :)
[20:52] <agoole> goshawk: ok, downloaded.
[20:52] <goshawk> agoole: then tar -xvzf data.tar.gz
[20:54] <horia> bokey: kdesudo /etc/network/interfaces (command not found) :)
[20:54] <agoole> goshawk: ok, done that, and it gave me a printout of some kind
[20:54] <goshawk> agoole: yep, ls
[20:54] <goshawk> agoole: it created a tree
[20:55] <agoole> goshawk: I have data.tar.gz and control.tar.gz, and the .deb package,
[20:55] <goshawk> ah
[20:55] <agoole> with some folders
[20:55] <goshawk> do you have a "bin " folder
[20:55] <goshawk> ?=
[20:55] <agoole> yup
[20:55] <agoole> i also have a debian binary ?
[20:56] <Bsims{fs}>  anyone have a freaking clue why  or how I have an empty album named unknown?
[20:58] <goshawk> agoole: cd into the bin directory
[20:58] <goshawk> cd bin
[20:58] <agoole> theres bash, rbash and sh
[20:58] <goshawk> ls and you will find "bash" finally
[20:58] <agoole> ok, now just cp the bash into hte mount/bin/bash ?
[20:58] <goshawk> sudo cp -a bash /mnt/repair/bin/
[20:59] <agoole> ok
[20:59] <agoole> now I should be able to chroot the mount point right
[20:59] <goshawk> yep
[20:59] <horia> anyone know how to set Firefox as default browser ?
[20:59]  * goshawk crosses fingers
[20:59] <horia> I have tried from firefox settings but it's not working
[21:00] <agoole> goshawk: ugh, I still have the cannot run command, Exec format error
[21:00] <yaa__> http://desktop.scribbler.ru/uploaded/1671/4478.jpg
[21:00] <goshawk> horia: systemsettings default applications
[21:01] <goshawk> ah wait
[21:01] <goshawk> agoole: ah wait
[21:01] <BluesKaj> horia , sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[21:01] <goshawk> you are in a x86 livecd, and you are fixing an amd64 machine right?
[21:02] <agoole> goshawk: haha, yes, and you're about to tell me that I can't do that, right ? lol
[21:02] <horia> BluesKaj:  I will try that after I fail with the Gui settings
[21:02] <goshawk> agoole: yep -__-
[21:02] <agoole> goshawk: haha
[21:02] <agoole> goshawk: oh the irony
[21:02] <goshawk> phone
[21:03] <agoole> phone ?
[21:03] <goshawk> agoole: phone rang
[21:03] <agoole> oh, phone call, haha, gotcha
[21:05] <BluesKaj> horia  it will set your default browser globally
[21:06] <horia> BluesKaj: I managed from default applications
[21:06] <horia> seems to work
[21:06] <atraylen> au revoir kids i'm off to green bay
[21:06] <agoole> goshawk: brb, going to search for this x64 cd
[21:08] <goshawk> agoole: yep, we need the x86 cd
[21:08] <Muzer> Any tutorials for getting Google Gadgets working in 9.04 plasma? I found one but I followed it and plasma crashed when I tried to install one.
[21:09] <Muzer> Or better, a .deb of the files I need (I found one but it's for x86 and not amd64)
[21:09] <horia> anyone know the quake 3 console ?
[21:09] <goshawk> agoole: and do mv /mnt/repair/bin/bash.old /mnt/repair/bin/bash
[21:09] <horia> would be nice to have terminal activated by the ~ key like in quake 3 :P
[21:10] <BluesKaj> hmm, knetworkmanager has to called up with the run command every session ...why is it not autoloading ?
[21:10] <goshawk> horia: do you mean that you want to have aterminal if you press a key?
[21:10] <Muzer> I hate that, it took me ages to figure out how to get the console (British keyboards have ~ to the left of Enter, and ` where ~ is on american keyboards)
[21:10] <Muzer> (sorry, offtopic there :p)
[21:11] <horia> goshawk:  that would work too, but would be nicer if the the console dropped down like quake
[21:11] <goshawk> horia: have a look at yakuake
[21:11] <Muzer> horia: I think I saw that somewhere, but I can't quite place my finger on it. Also, it might have been for gnome.
[21:12] <Muzer> It was even styled like the Quake console
[21:12] <agoole> goshawk: you meant the x64 cd right ?>
[21:12] <goshawk> horia: you press F12 and you have a bash on your desktop
[21:12] <goshawk> agoole: yep
[21:12] <agoole> goshawk: because i'm running the 386 one right now
[21:12] <agoole> goshawk: ok, so that was a typo
[21:12] <goshawk> agoole: yep, we need the same arch
[21:17] <aliSalaah> what's the improvements/difference in Kubuntu vs Ubuntu?
[21:18] <horia> kubuntu is using KDE not Gnome
[21:19] <BleSS> does anybody can auto-mount an usb memory in Jaunty?
[21:20] <dragonrider> i can BleSS
[21:20] <agoole> goshawk: seems the cd has been misplaced, i'll have to torrent another, or make another burn if I still have the iso,
[21:21] <goshawk> agoole: are you coming from a release party? :) cds everywhere
[21:21] <BleSS> dragonrider: sure? I cann't :(
[21:21] <dragonrider> my usb key is auto-mounting like a charm with jaunty
[21:21] <janvi_> Hello! I had a strange issue today, youtube videos played off twice as fast as usual.
[21:21] <agoole> goshawk: haha, no, i'm at my folk's home, they live out of hte city,
[21:22] <dragonrider> it is a corsair flash voyager gt
[21:22] <janvi_> Somebody experienced this?
[21:22] <agoole> goshawk: I wish I lived in a place where people knew what release parties were..
[21:22] <goshawk> agoole:  :)
[21:23] <horia> what are release parties ? :)
[21:23] <janvi_> Hello! I had a strange issue today, youtube videos played off twice as fast as usual
[21:23] <goshawk> janvi_: uhm... firefox?
[21:24] <horia> janvi_: never had that happend to me ... can you try vimeo.com and see how that behaves ?
[21:24] <janvi_> firefox and konqueror
[21:25] <dragonrider> could someone tell me the name of an application which will permit me to test my mic ?
[21:25] <janvi_> goshawk: strange this...
[21:26] <doleyb> dragonrider: kwave or audacity
[21:26] <goshawk> janvi_: they are good for me
[21:27] <janvi_> hmm.. the videos was speeding up in fullscreen
[21:27] <agoole> goshawk: ok, downloading another copy now, going to take 25min, then a burn, so i'll be back later,
 Any tutorials for getting Google Gadgets working in 9.04 plasma? I found one but I followed it and plasma crashed when I tried to install one.
[21:27] <agoole> goshawk: but I wanted to say, thanks for all the help so far
 Or better, a .deb of the files I need (I found one but it's for x86 and not amd64)
[21:27] <goshawk> agoole:
[21:27] <goshawk> agoole: ok, you are welcome
[21:27] <goshawk> agoole: i hope to be still here
[21:27] <goshawk> but i cant' guarantee
[21:28] <agoole> goshawk: haha, me too :)
[21:28] <goshawk> gf is waiting :P
[21:28] <dragonrider> thanks doleyb
[21:35] <ironfroggy> I ran into some sudden and serious performance issues with, I think, kwin. Kmenu takes 20+ seconds to load, I can't drag windows, etc.
[21:35] <ironfroggy> Is there some way I could confirm what process(es) might be having trouble?
[21:37] <dragonrider> well it seems that i have still a problem with my microphone ... kwave is recording nothing
[21:37] <doleyb> dragonrider: yeah, what is your audio hwd?
[21:38] <bokey> ironfroggy: open up your console and type 'top'. see hwats hogging the CPU
[21:38] <dragonrider> hda intel
[21:38] <doleyb> ironfroggy: I will bet it is kded4
[21:41] <dragonrider> doleyb, the reference is according to sysinfo : Intel corporation 82801I ( ICH9 Family ) HD Audio Controller ( rev 2 )
[21:44] <dragonrider> maybe i just make a mistake in my kmix, what's the difference beetwin the input source front mic and mic ?
[21:44] <wags> anyone know how to setup Vuse??
[21:44] <ironfroggy> doleyb: i already had system monitor opened and firefox was on top as usual
[21:44] <wags> I have it installed but it wont update
[21:46] <doleyb> wags: the vuze auto-updater is trying to run but never suceeds?
[21:46] <wags> yeh
[21:46] <wags> how did you guess
[21:46] <doleyb> wags: I recommend going into vuze config for plugins, and disable the auto-updater.
[21:47] <wags> ok, is the new version not that good??
[21:47] <wags> I was thinking of running the latest version
[21:47] <doleyb> wags: I don't know, if you really want it, you can go install it separately, not from apt.
[21:47] <wags> ok
[21:47] <wags> thx
[21:48] <wags> thx for the help doleyb
[21:49] <x_link> Hi
[21:49] <mackk431> hi i am using kubuntu 9.04 64bit and need help to install flashplayer for firefox
[21:50] <x_link> I just installed Jaunty but I can't get some swedish letters to work.
[21:51] <dragonrider> mackk431, just install flashplugin-nonfree as i do
[21:51] <mackk431> i did install it with sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[21:52] <mackk431> but its not in the plugin list of firefox
[21:52] <dragonrider> you mean when you enter about:plugins ?
[21:52] <dragonrider> in the adresse bar ?
[21:53] <wags> I have to say the new version of Kubuntu is awsome
[21:53] <dragonrider> *adress
[21:53] <wags> everything just works
[21:53] <x_link> I'm using Kubuntu 9.04 with KDE3 right now, just installed it.
[21:53] <mackk431> i dont know about:plugins
[21:53] <x_link> But I can't write some swedish letters =/
[21:54] <x_link> And Ctrl+Alt+Backspace doesn't work.
[21:54] <robin0800> mackk431: I've heard people  only have success with the 32bit version
[21:54] <dragonrider> mackk431, flashplugin is not in the plugin list of firefox but it works ;)
[21:54] <dragonrider> that's wrong, i am the proof !
[21:55] <robin0800> x_link: You need dotzap
[21:55] <robin0800> dontzap
[21:55] <mackk431> hm so flashplayer works for 32 bit only?
[21:55] <janvi_> dontzap --disable
[21:56] <x_link> robin0800: Where should I write that?
[21:56] <mackk431> it works not for me dragonrider :(
[21:56] <quassel251> ok guys
[21:56] <dragonrider> it works for me ...
[21:56] <quassel251> I am very very impressed by kubuntu 9.04!
[21:56] <x_link> janvi_: alright
[21:56] <quassel251> it actually seems like someone cared about kde in this release :p
[21:56] <horia> quassel251: me too
[21:56] <robin0800> x_link: console
[21:56] <dragonrider> i have only install flashplugin-nonfree and restart firefox ... that is all
[21:57] <mackk431> do you use the 64 bit version or 32 bit of kubuntu?
[21:57] <dragonrider> i 'am using 64 bit version
[21:57] <mackk431> hm
[21:57] <quassel251> anyway, if anyone worked on it, just want to express my appreciation. It's amazing :)
[21:57] <dragonrider> Linux dragonrider-desktop 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:58:03 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:57] <mackk431> i installed the flashplugin but its not there
[21:57] <mackk431> cant run youtube stuff
[21:57] <robin0800> mackk431: use the 32bit flash version on your 64bit system
[21:58] <dragonrider> lol quassel251 i like too jaunty ... if only my mic will work ...
[21:58] <mackk431> how do i force it to 32 bit?
[21:59] <mackk431> i installed the packet with sudo apt-get install flashinplugin-nonfree
[21:59] <robin0800> mackk431: you need to download the 32 bit version and install it
[21:59] <mackk431> there was no option for 32 or 64 bit
[21:59] <Trog> any use jackcontrol, "jack server" i can't get it to start, & alot of midi, effects,synth, etc..need it,
[21:59] <robin0800> mackk431: try adobes site
[21:59] <mackk431> what is the sudo command robin
[22:00] <robin0800> mackk431: www
[22:00] <dragonrider> i've done the same thing mackk431
[22:00] <mackk431> hm
[22:01] <x_link> dontzap --disable didn't help me with Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[22:02] <robin0800> mackk431: http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[22:02] <Muzer> I think it would be a lot easier and more useful just to make you have to press Ctrl + Alt + Backspace twice like on openSUSE (not that I like many of their other ideas)
[22:03] <markit> hi, can't make k9copy work, it crashes as soon as I press "copy" button.. any clue? Kubuntu 9.04
[22:03] <nameiner_> hello everyone. Has anybody tried to install widgets from the internet yet? And did it work? I only get an error message.
[22:04] <mackk431> ok he is downloading stuff now
[22:04] <MushroomKingdom> nameiner_: I got that problem too
[22:04] <mackk431> i am on konquerer now cause firefox dont show an upload button
[22:05] <nameiner_> MushroomKingdom: did you find a solution for the problem?
[22:05] <mackk431> now konquerer asks
[22:05] <mackk431> „http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_10_linux.deb“ öffnen?
[22:05] <mackk431> Typ: Debian-Paket
[22:05] <MushroomKingdom> nameiner_: No :( I haven't come to any conclusions yet
[22:06] <MushroomKingdom> I think it might just be because the server is bogged down maybe?
[22:06] <nameiner_> it looks like the path to the downloaded file is wrong, there are too many / in the error message
[22:07] <MushroomKingdom> Hmm. I'm not sure :( Sorry I can't be of more help.
[22:08] <mackk431> ok i found an installation instruction for linux i will try it
[22:08] <mackk431> http://www.adobe.com/de/products/flashplayer/productinfo/instructions/
[22:08] <janvi_> Is it some issuer twith the kubuntu-restricted-extras package?
[22:08] <Trog> any midi keyboard user's here?, need help getting "jack control" to work, alot of music programs seem to depend on it  = )
[22:08] <x_link> janvi_: dontzap --disable didn't work for me
[22:09] <janvi_> Install it first sudo apt-get install dontzap
[22:10] <nameiner_> MushroomKingdom: thanks anyway. At least it seems to be a real problem and not only my system
[22:10] <x_link> janvi_: It doesn't install anything, so I guess it's already installed
[22:10] <MushroomKingdom> Yeah
[22:10] <janvi_> should work like a charm...
[22:11] <cee> hi, i updated to Jaunty, and my X server dosent work anyone.. i have ati radeon x1400, and i read in dfaure's blog that there are problems with Xorg1.6 and ati. Anyone know when this will be fixed in kubuntu?
[22:11] <x_link> I will try it again now
[22:12] <szadek_> hello i have a infra red remote control hp rc6 , but i cant make it work , any suggestions for this ??
[22:12] <robin0800> cee: at a guess not soon
[22:13] <x_link> janvi_: Nope, doesn't work at all.
[22:13] <x_link> I use Kubuntu Jaunty/9.04 with KDE3
[22:13] <cee> robin0800: ok, so i guess i need to downgrade my system to intrepid, is this easy to do?
[22:14] <robin0800> cee: Don't think so
[22:14] <dfrey> My software raid stopped working when I upgraded to Jaunty.  I had a RAID0 setup at /dev/md0 and now it looks like there's /dev/md_d0 which is incomplete.
[22:14] <cee> i can only change from jaunty to intrepit in source.list and to a dist-upgrade?
[22:14] <dfrey> Does anyone know about software raid here?
[22:15] <x_link> cee: You must re-install if you want to "downgrade".
[22:15] <Trog> I'm even considering going back to "hardy heron" only one that everything worked for me, no guessing at bugs to solve haha
[22:16] <x_link> Trog: I just upgraded from Hardy. Worked best for me as well.
[22:16] <x_link> Cause I REALLY didn't like KDE4 at all.
[22:16] <x_link> I rather use gnome than KDE4
[22:16] <x_link> So that's why I never upgraded to 8.10, I really like 8.04 alot.
[22:16] <cee> kde4 always worked ok for me, its those crappy ati-drivers thats really are driving me crazy
[22:17] <[TCK]> hear hear, cee
[22:17] <mackk431> Sorry, an error occurred
[22:17] <mackk431> lol not working
[22:17] <mackk431> :(
[22:17] <robin0800> Trog: Yes your right 8.04 was the last time Ati restricted drivers worked
[22:18]  * robin0800 and that was ayear ago
[22:18] <[TCK]> anyone know how to set up dual-head with the ati open drivers?
[22:18] <jacalope> how would you downgrade a single package, like g++ ? dpkg yadda^3?
[22:18] <[TCK]> as it stands all I get is cloning
[22:18] <Trog> i do like the slick look of "jaunty" but if i can't get "jack-control" to work, & it depended on alot of midi & musical programs i use, *sigh* no good to me then = (
[22:19] <mackk431> error type is "Wrong system architectur Ä>>i386Ä<<
[22:19] <mackk431> "
[22:19] <x_link> I really love KDE3 and Hardy =)
[22:19] <x_link> But I don't want to use "old" stuff when I know that there is 2 newer versions of Kubuntu out.
[22:20] <Trog> ya true, this does look nice, & it reads my nvidia card right & everything else = )
[22:23] <Trog> I'll keep trying to get jack to work, & if i do will send a  bug fix in or post it here or whatever ya suppose to do hehe
[22:24] <x_link> Trog: What is Jack and what does it do?
[22:24] <robin0800> Trog: The only two problems I have are Bluetooth and mobile broadband dongle
[22:24] <Muzer> Can someone recommend an app for checking the system temperature using both lm-sensors and smart?
[22:25] <mackk431> hello i am trying to install the flashplayer plugin for kubuntu 9.04 64bit without success need help
[22:25] <mackk431> for firefox
[22:26] <Muzer> mackk431: Just do sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:26] <Muzer> then wait
[22:26] <Muzer> then, if it still doesn't work, copy /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so into /usr/lib/firefox/plugins (I think)
[22:26] <mackk431> i allready installed it with sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:27] <mackk431> but i dont get the plugin showed in firefox
[22:27] <Trog> jack control is wht i need to work, it's a small sound server that quite a few music effects , mixer, midi, software , need to run, tho there's alot of other programs called jack, that do different things
[22:27] <x_link> Hurmmm
[22:27] <mackk431> what does aptitude do?
[22:28] <Muzer> mackk431: Like apt-get but I prefer it
[22:28] <Muzer> :p
[22:28] <mackk431> ok
[22:28] <robin0800> mackk431: Its newer
[22:28] <mackk431> i will try the copy command
[22:28] <chris_rc1> hi
[22:29] <robin0800> If you just do aptitude it generates a gui even
[22:29] <chris_rc1> is there a way to configure a vpn with the networkmanager plasmoid? anything i set is not stored
[22:30] <mackk431> hm
[22:30] <ALPINE63rus> Hello. I've installed ubuntu and I want to install kubuntu over it (in fact - KDE and it's applications). but package "kubuntu-desktop" is mssing in Synaptic. I use standard repositories (all defaults in sources.list). where is kubuntu-desktop and how to install it ?
[22:31] <robin0800> ALPINE63rus: Go to help it has a link to do that
[22:32] <mackk431> robin i am looking in the drawer /usr/lib/ and cant find the file flashplugin-installer drawer
[22:32] <ALPINE63rus> robin - help.ubuntu.com?
[22:32] <robin0800> No local help
[22:33] <ALPINE63rus> I've found a lot of articles about installing kubuntu on ubuntu, everywhere there are advices "install kubuntu-desktop package" but nothing about missing of this package
[22:33] <mackk431> found it :)
[22:33] <mackk431> ok i found that file
[22:34] <johansja> it is weird, i couldn't install kubuntu-restricted-extra through kpackagekit though it is fine with the others
[22:34] <mackk431> i will copy it to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins if its existing
[22:34] <ubuntu> goshawk: hey, and so i'm back
[22:34] <ALPINE63rus> thanks.
[22:34] <ALPINE63rus> it's so strange...
[22:34] <agoole> goshawk: sry, forgot to change my nick
[22:35] <robin0800> ALPINE63rus: Help & support Customising your computer
[22:35] <mackk431> there is no /usr/lib/firefox/plugins but i have an /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins shall i put it there?
[22:36] <ALPINE63rus> i've refreshed list of package manually and got "Not found / not downloaded" in a lot of package list. clicking on "install kubuntu-desktop" in help brings synaptic to refresh package list and then all files downloaded correctly.
[22:37] <Muzer> mackk431: make it
[22:37] <mackk431> ok i try but dolphin doesnt let me
[22:37] <Muzer> mackk431: use sudo
[22:37] <mackk431> have to start dolphin with kdesudo i guess
[22:37] <Muzer> and a terminal
[22:37] <Muzer> sudo mkdir -pv /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[22:38] <Muzer> sudo cp -iv /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[22:38] <Muzer> then, copy it into the other directory to be safe:
[22:38] <mackk431> why do i have to make a new drawer?
[22:38] <Muzer> sudo cp -iv /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins
[22:38] <Muzer> mackk431: mkdir = make directory (directory = folder)
[22:38] <ubuntu> is it normal for amarok not to have sound out of th box in 9.04?
[22:38] <mackk431> ok
[22:41] <mackk431> ok i typed in the commands in terminal i start firefox
[22:42] <mackk431> no flash plugin in addons to find
[22:42] <mackk431> :)
[22:42] <mackk431> :(
[22:44] <mackk431> i found a firefox-3.0.9/plugins drawer
[22:45] <mackk431> i put the file in there
[22:45] <mackk431> its allready in there
[22:45] <agoole> does anyone know how I can use live to replace or fix my package ?"
[22:46] <goshawk> agoole: did you chroot?
[22:46] <agoole> goshawk: yup!
[22:46] <goshawk> ok now do apt-get -f install
[22:46] <goshawk> and paste all
[22:47] <agoole> goshawk: pastbin or here ?
[22:47] <mackk431> i thing the 32bit version of lib isnt working with 64bit kubuntu
[22:47] <goshawk> agoole: pastebin
[22:47] <[TCK]> I wish I never bloody updated to jaunty now
[22:48] <mackk431> :)
[22:48] <goshawk> agoole: ?
[22:48] <mackk431> i passed that point yesterday
[22:48] <linux-hdtv> tck, i can follow that, but what happened ?
[22:48] <agoole> goshawk: http://pastebin.com/d4661541b
[22:49] <agoole> goshawk: sry, not used to a laptop,
[22:49] <mackk431> the thing is without experience in linux is damn hard to configure stuff
[22:49] <goshawk> agoole: good
[22:49] <mackk431> it is
[22:49] <goshawk> agoole: apt-get remove konsole
[22:50] <markit> when I insert a dvd, it asks to open it with dragon player, but it has no buttons to go forward/backward of one chapter. I've added to the toolbar, they work but have no icon. Is it normal? how can it be that default player has no default FF/REW buttons for dvd?
[22:50] <markit> or am I doning something wrong?
[22:50] <goshawk> agoole: apt-get -f install then again
[22:50] <[TCK]> linux-hdtv: well, to say what hasn't happened would be a little melodramatic, but lets start with three things: 1) lack of ati X1600 support, 2) VLC now has video detached from rest of window, 3) my laptop no longer has wireless
[22:50] <agoole> goshawk: couldn't remove konsole I think
[22:50] <[TCK]> tempted to reinstall 8.10
[22:51] <IppatsuMan> Jaunty didn't recognize the passphrase for my Wireless, I had to set it as hexdecimal string :\
[22:51] <goshawk> agoole: can you pastebin the error?
[22:51] <agoole> goshawk:  http://pastebin.com/d6b473ad4  ---> thats the error for konsole remove
[22:51] <goshawk> agoole: or if it's one line here
[22:52] <sd32> my  audigy doesnt work in 9.04..;-/
[22:53] <MimmoX> hi everyone
[22:53] <agoole> the apt-get -f install kept crasshing with dpkg, thats why i thought that was the broken package
[22:54] <MimmoX> sorry due to the intrusion, but i've got some problems with amarok 2. It's about to manage media devices (a chinapod) with the application. May I ask some help here?
[22:54] <goshawk> agoole: the problem is usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kcontrol/kcmkonsole/index.cache.bz2
[22:54] <goshawk> which is included in two packages
[22:54] <goshawk> and it gives error
[22:54] <goshawk> konsole and kdebase
[22:54] <goshawk> and when kdebase tries to install it gives error
[22:55] <MimmoX> p.s. my pc is fresh of jaunty
[22:55] <agoole> goshawk: i dont know whats worse, my ex girlfriend or a broken ubuntu, haha
[22:55] <sd32> girlfriend cant be fixed
[22:55] <agoole> goshawk: can i replace that file from somewhere online ?
[22:55] <agoole> sd32: haha,
[22:56] <goshawk> agoole: apt-get --purge --force-yes remove konsole
[22:56] <MimmoX> sd32: and can't be object oriented programmed
[22:56] <sd32> MimmoX: lol
[22:56] <agoole> unless its for shoes..
[22:57] <goshawk> agoole: didn't it do anything?
[22:57] <goshawk> same error?
[22:57] <agoole> goshawk: still get hte apt-get -f install
[22:58] <agoole> goshawk: i have a huge stack of errors, all concerning kdebase-runtime-data,
[22:58] <goshawk> agoole: can you pastebin again?
[22:59] <agoole> goshawk: http://pastebin.com/d4b3cb61e
[22:59] <agoole> I almost just pasted 128 lines to irssi, thank god for the warnig
[23:01] <sd32> are there known problems with kubuntu and audigy sound cards not working?
[23:01] <BenPA> can someone help me with upgrade to jaunty gone bad ... have no X
[23:02] <kristina> hi, where do I get the weather dependent wallpaper plasmoid?
[23:02] <goshawk> agoole: do you know how to use aptitude?
[23:02] <PROject-Emerald> Are there any fairly decent linux/cross-platform MMO's? Like MMORPG's, MMOFPS's, etc?
[23:02] <agoole> goshawk: a litlte bit, its like apt-get almost,
[23:02] <linux-hdtv> [TCK], the wireless thing is frequent here and many solve it easily
[23:02] <agoole> goshawk: except i can use it to search for packages and such as well
[23:02] <sd32> PROject-Emerald: secondlife
[23:03] <goshawk> agoole: it also offers you solution for broken situations
[23:03] <goshawk> liek this one
[23:03] <goshawk> agoole: run aptitude
[23:03] <goshawk> then press u
[23:03] <linux-hdtv> vlc detached in 2 windows is a problem on opensuse since months too. what sources did you use ?
[23:03] <PROject-Emerald> sd32: =\ The videocard drivers on my PC won't install properly so I always get an xorg error, rendering me unable to properly play SecondLife
[23:03] <agoole> goshawk: ha, I tried the aptitude check-all or something, and it didn't do anything,
[23:03] <sd32> PROject-Emerald: ahh
[23:03] <goshawk> agoole: try this
[23:03] <goshawk> agoole: aptitute
[23:03] <agoole> ok
[23:03] <agoole> in aptitude
[23:03] <agoole> pressed u
[23:03] <goshawk> aptitude then it loads
[23:04] <goshawk> pressu
[23:04] <goshawk>  u
[23:04] <linux-hdtv> ati and opensource is a sorry tale ...
[23:04] <agoole> got it
[23:04] <mackk431> where do i find the konquerer libs in order to install the flash plugin?
[23:04] <agoole> it said it didn't load all packages
[23:04] <mackk431> there is none in usr/libs
[23:04] <david_k-cfd> hello everyone......I am looking for some help
[23:04] <goshawk> then press MAIUSC+u
[23:04] <goshawk> does appear a red line
[23:04] <agoole> goshawk: euh, whats maiusc ?
[23:04] <david_k-cfd> I have a problem with my NOKIA mobile phone, when I plug it as USB drive, the system does not do anything
[23:04] <david_k-cfd> I hope someone can help me
[23:04] <goshawk> agoole: maiusc button, is the one to make U
[23:05] <[TCK]> linux-hdtv: re: wireless - I know there are problems with connecting to networks, though my desktop has no problem, the problem is that according to both the new plasmoid and knetworkmanager there is no such thing as wireless
[23:05] <agoole> goshawk: got it, like, majuscule button, in french :)
[23:05] <nameiner_> kristina: there are some installable from the packages with KPackedgeKit or adept. Just search for weather
[23:05] <goshawk> a bottom red line should appear
[23:05] <agoole> goshawk: it gave me permission to overwrite files ?
[23:05] <goshawk> agoole: do you see the bottom red line?
[23:06] <[TCK]> re: vlc - using the default repositories, nothing special
[23:06] <agoole> goshawk: at the bottom, i hate a red section saying suggest 1, removal 2 upgrades
[23:06] <kristina> nameiner_: ok thanks
[23:06] <goshawk> agoole: did you run it as root
[23:06] <agoole> goshawk: yes
[23:06] <nameiner_> kristina: they then appear in the add widget dialog
[23:06] <goshawk> yes
[23:06] <linux-hdtv> [TCK], did you see the remix of kubuntu 9.04 ?
[23:06] <[TCK]> and I understand the ati/open source debacle, all I ask for from the open drivers is dual monitor support
[23:06] <goshawk> agoole: make that decision
[23:06] <[TCK]> the KDE3 remix?
[23:06] <goshawk> agoole: type e to examine
[23:07] <linux-hdtv> yes
[23:07] <sd32> PROject-Emerald: have you tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-671143.html
[23:07] <linux-hdtv> are you on 64bit ?
[23:07] <agoole> goshawk: it suggests to remove kdebase-workspace-bin and data
[23:07] <goshawk> well
[23:07] <goshawk> i think you should do ! to apply
[23:07] <[TCK]> yeah, dare I say it but I'm a KDE4 convert.  didn't think any of these issues were DE dependent
[23:08] <[TCK]> and 32 bit
[23:08] <goshawk> but i don't remember
[23:08] <goshawk> or g
[23:08] <agoole> goshawk: yup, did it
[23:08] <agoole> goshawk: was !, good memory
[23:08] <BenPA> can someone help me with upgrade to jaunty gone bad ... have no X
[23:08] <goshawk> agoole: time to cross fingers
[23:08] <sorcio> ciao a tutti
[23:08] <agoole> goshawk: haha,
[23:08] <goshawk> ciao sorcio
[23:08] <linux-hdtv> you could try medibuntu. i don't remember when i started my vlc first here, but that worked.
[23:09] <goshawk> agoole: bad? -__-
[23:09] <sorcio> qualcuno italiano
[23:09] <linux-hdtv> i'm on 64bit though
[23:09] <goshawk> !it
[23:09] <sorcio> da queste parti
[23:09] <[TCK]> hmmm
[23:09] <goshawk> sorcio comunque si
[23:09] <p_quarles> !it |  sorcio
[23:09] <agoole> goshawk: still doesn't work with the apt-get install -f
[23:09] <sorcio> come faccio ad andare su ubunt.it
[23:09] <[TCK]> what about outside of the *buntus?
[23:09] <goshawk> sorcio: /j #ubuntu-it
[23:09] <asdzxc> hi
[23:09] <david_k-cfd> anyone can help me to mount my mobile phone?
[23:09] <asdzxc> i just upgraded to 9.04
[23:09] <linux-hdtv> knetwork has been replaced by the plasmoid, right ?
[23:10] <linux-hdtv> did you get help for that ?
[23:10] <asdzxc> and i have problems with networking
[23:10] <goshawk> agoole: :(
[23:10] <goshawk> agoole: i really don't know
[23:10] <goshawk> agoole: we tried everything
[23:10] <[TCK]> strangely, on my desktop yes, on my laptop both knetwork and the plasmoid exist
[23:10] <agoole> goshawk: do you know how I can use this live cd to simply override all hte packages on the drive ?
[23:10] <goshawk> agoole: start thinking to backup and do a clean install in my opinion
[23:10] <asdzxc> network management can't connect to netowrk
[23:10] <linux-hdtv> tck, may deinstall both and reinstall only plasmoid ?
[23:10] <asdzxc> wireless nor wired
[23:11] <goshawk> agoole: can't you backup?
[23:11] <goshawk> eg external hard drive
[23:11] <sorcio>  where is ubuntu.it
[23:11] <agoole> euh, can I choose the install at the same mount point as before ? will this override my files ?
[23:12] <goshawk> sorcio: ubuntu-it
[23:12] <BluesKaj> asdzxc, alt+f2 , knetworkmanager
[23:12] <asdzxc> on wired networki, there is 'not updated yet' and a picture of unplugged cable
[23:12] <linux-hdtv> [TCK], obviously this release is quite buggy, i suppose still largely because of the immature and buggy kde4
[23:12] <agoole> goshawk: I can back it up....I just don't really look forward to it, lol
[23:12] <[TCK]> you think there's a conflict?  bear in mind that only the plasmoid runs by default, knetworkmanager exists but doesn't start
[23:12] <goshawk> sorcio: scrivi proprio qui nel terminale esattamente quello che c'è tra virgolette "/j #ubuntu-it
[23:12] <goshawk> "/j #ubuntu-it"
[23:12] <linux-hdtv> tck, i know little.
[23:13] <[TCK]> I'm quite surprised by the bugginess given the last few relatively unbuggy releases
[23:13] <goshawk> agoole: usually the /home directory is the one to backup :)
[23:13] <agoole> goshawk: haha, yeah, i know,
[23:13] <[TCK]> i'll give the tip a go though
[23:13] <agoole> goshawk: if I pick the same mount point for the install will this be ok ?
[23:13] <goshawk> [TCK]: knetwormanager exists but doesn't start, it's a feature, not a bug
[23:14] <linux-hdtv> sometimes there are very clever people here, tck.
[23:14] <goshawk> agoole: what do you mean?
[23:14] <asdzxc> BluesKaj is it showing both eths as 'unmanaged'
[23:14] <linux-hdtv> they might help you fast.
[23:14] <goshawk> agoole: you backup, umount all, and then start the install
[23:14] <agoole> goshawk: ok
[23:15] <BluesKaj> asdzxc, no but I had it running on the laptop ..desktop is dhcp wired
[23:15] <BenPA> can someone help me with upgrade to jaunty gone bad ... have no X
[23:15] <[TCK]> I have had very good help from here in the past, perhaps the problems were simpler though
[23:15] <goshawk> BenPA: are you in the machine without X?
[23:15] <asdzxc> BluesKaj  it doesn't work on my laptop
[23:15] <[TCK]> also, are weekends good or bad times?
[23:15] <BenPA> goshawk:no
[23:15] <asdzxc> BluesKaj but it was with 8.10
[23:15] <david_k-cfd> con someone help me to mount a usb drive (mobile phone)?
[23:16] <goshawk> BenPA: are you able to digit commands into the pc?
[23:16] <goshawk> i mean into the shell
[23:17] <BenPA> goshawk: i have a prompt right now
[23:17] <goshawk> david_k-cfd: have you checked that it's supported? if now, which hsdpa/umts key are you trying to make work?
[23:17] <BenPA> goshawk: i think I understand and yes
[23:17] <BluesKaj> asdzxc have you tried the network management widget ?..that's what i used to setup the laptop wifi
[23:18] <asdzxc> BluesKaj yes, not working
[23:18] <goshawk> BenPA: do sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old
[23:18] <asdzxc> BluesKaj it can't connect event wired network
[23:18] <BluesKaj> asking for pwds etc
[23:18] <asdzxc> BluesKaj i have to connect it by hand (dhclient and setup resolv.conf)
[23:18] <goshawk> strange... i just plug and it works....
[23:18] <BluesKaj> is the icon in the taskbar ?
[23:18] <david_k-cfd> goshawk: well, it is only a micro sd.....how do I get the hsdpa/umts? all I know now is if I list lsusb, it doesn't show up
[23:18] <asdzxc> yes
[23:19] <BluesKaj> double click on the icon
[23:19] <goshawk> david_k-cfd: connect the key, then do dmesg and then go to paste.ubuntu.com and paste  there the result
[23:19] <asdzxc> BluesKaj it can't double click
[23:19] <asdzxc> BluesKaj when i single-click on it, it will display some stats
[23:19] <BluesKaj> single click then
[23:19] <BenPA> goshawk: done
[23:19] <goshawk> agoole: how is it going? any problem?
[23:20] <asdzxc> BluesKaj eth0: unmanaged  eth1: unmanaged
[23:20] <agoole> goshawk: could you do me a favor ? could you pastbin a standard list of repos ?
[23:20] <BluesKaj> choose the connection that's your LAN
[23:20] <goshawk> BenPA: do "startx"
[23:20] <goshawk> agoole: yup, jaunty?
[23:20] <agoole> goshawk: yes please :)
[23:20] <PROject-Emerald> Does anyone here have an ATI Radeon 9250?
[23:21] <asdzxc> BluesKaj nothink happens. it displays message: connectin
[23:21] <asdzxc> g
[23:21] <goshawk> agoole: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/158164/
[23:21] <BluesKaj> asdzxc, do you have the knetworkmanager icon in the taskbar then?
[23:21] <goshawk> BenPA: any gui around?
[23:21] <asdzxc> BluesKaj and then nothing. and it's showing picture of unplugged cable
[23:21] <BenPA> goshawk: I now have ubuntu screen and not kubuntu
[23:21] <asdzxc> but cable is plugged, i'm connected via it
[23:21] <asdzxc> BluesKaj yes i have also knetworkmanaged
[23:22] <asdzxc> manager
[23:22] <goshawk> BenPA: it does not matter for now, do you have graphic ?
[23:22] <BluesKaj> asdzxc, did you use the run command to call up knetworkmanager?
[23:22] <BenPA> goshawk: yes
[23:22] <asdzxc> BluesKaj yes
[23:23] <goshawk> BenPA: well, now just enter, do you have gnome or kde?
[23:23] <BluesKaj> ok right click on it , new connection
[23:23] <goshawk> BenPA: i mean enter the system
[23:23] <BenPA> goshawk: gnome
[23:23] <asdzxc> BluesKaj got it, i choose eth0 (wired)
[23:23] <goshawk> BenPA: you have to install the kubuntu-desktop
[23:23] <david_k-cfd> goshawk: ok, I just did it
[23:23] <goshawk> package
[23:23] <goshawk> BenPA: do you know how to do it?
[23:24] <goshawk> david_k-cfd: give me the link :)
[23:24] <david_k-cfd> goshawk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/158166/
[23:24] <BenPA> goshawk: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[23:24] <goshawk> BenPA: yep
[23:26] <goshawk> david_k-cfd: when you connect, it shows like a cdrom, isn't it?
[23:26] <agoole> goshawk: how do I remove all of kde ?
[23:26] <BenPA> goshawk: it says kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version
[23:26] <BenPA> goshawk: it says might want to run apt-get -f install
[23:27] <agoole> goshawk: nvm, I guess apparantly its not even installed
[23:27] <goshawk> BenPA: do it
[23:27] <goshawk> agoole: in kde, all the applications are packaged separately, i don't know if there is a command to remove all
[23:27] <BenPA> goshawk: I tried to install kde3 earlier
[23:28] <agoole> goshawk: apparenlty kde isn't installed at all, so maybe why its all broken
[23:28] <agoole> goshawk: i'll backup and fresh install
[23:28] <goshawk> agoole: to install the whole kde install kubuntu-desktop
[23:28] <goshawk> agoole: but it will not work, cuz he will try to sovle the problem with kdebase first
[23:28] <goshawk> and it will fail
[23:29] <BenPA> goshawk: I tried it and got error sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg return an error code (1)
[23:29] <agoole> goshawk: can I force the remove ?
[23:29] <goshawk> agoole: with apt-get?
[23:29] <david_k-cfd> goshawk: no, it doesn't show up, the cdrom it shows is a different one that I have insterted there
[23:29] <quassel251_> hello :)
[23:29] <agoole> goshawk: or even aptitude, anything
[23:29] <goshawk> BenPA: can you paste the whole error please?
[23:29] <asdzxc> BluesKaj do you know why is eth0 unmanaged ? what does it mean ?
[23:29] <BenPA> no, I am not on that machine
[23:29] <dbglt> what's the go with installing restricted drivers (nvidia) on jaunty?
[23:31] <BenPA> goshawk: no, I am not on that machine
[23:31] <goshawk> agoole: try dpkg -r --force-all package
[23:31] <dbglt> any ideas?
[23:31] <jarek> k
[23:32] <goshawk> BenPA: the best is to do apt-get -f install and then install kubuntu-deskop if you can
[23:32] <goshawk> agoole: does it work?
[23:32] <agoole> yes, but I dont know what to remove....should I try removing konsole ?
[23:32] <BenPA> goshawk: I tried that ... should I uninstall kubuntu-desktop and or kde3
[23:33] <david_k-cfd> goshawk: it logged off, sorry
[23:33] <goshawk> agoole: if you are still trying to fix the system yes
[23:33] <goshawk> BenPA: unistall kde3
[23:33] <BenPA> goshawk: how
[23:33] <frustrat3d> hey peeps
[23:33] <goshawk> david_k-cfd: i saw. well from your paste, i don't see the usb key, please make sure that you removed it, then you plug it, wait 20 seconds, do dmesg again and paste
[23:33] <frustrat3d> anybody else see no wired connections in the plasma NetworkManager thingy?
[23:34] <frustrat3d> (despite being connected via dhcp)
[23:34] <BenPA> goshawk: I found it
[23:34] <goshawk> BenPA: what?
[23:34] <BenPA> goshawk: apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop-kde3
[23:34] <goshawk> BenPA: it's a metapackage, i don't know if it will work
[23:35] <goshawk> kde3 pieces will still be there
[23:35] <BenPA> goshawk: not sure what you mean by metapackage but it's removing it now
[23:35] <goshawk> agoole: any new?
[23:36] <agoole> goshawk: ok, so thats gone,
[23:36] <goshawk> agoole: did it work?
[23:36] <agoole> goshawk: now, seems that it can't resolve the repos...
[23:37] <BenPA> goshawk: it's done ... so what should I do or try now?  reboot?
[23:37] <goshawk> BenPA: no
[23:37] <BenPA> goshawk: also how can I get back to KDM
[23:38] <BenPA> goshawk: ok
[23:38] <goshawk> BenPA: apt-get install kdm
[23:38] <goshawk> or if it's installed
[23:38] <goshawk> BenPA: dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[23:38] <david_k-cfd> goshawk: how do ir remove the key?
[23:38] <frustrat3d> goshawk: you the only person helping people right now?
[23:39] <goshawk> david_k-cfd: take it and unplug it "physically" :)
[23:39] <goshawk> frustrat3d: yep, it seems so :)
[23:39] <linux-hdtv> where can i see the bookmarks file of firefox ?
[23:39] <goshawk> linux-hdtv: have a loot at ~/mozilla
[23:39] <BenPA> goshawk: hold a min
[23:39] <frustrat3d> dang. was hoping someone could help me figure out this POS network manager tool.
[23:39]  * frustrat3d just wants /etc/network/interfaces back.
[23:39] <david_k-cfd> goshawk: hahaha, sorry, ok
[23:39] <goshawk> oops, linux-hdtv ~/.mozilla
[23:40] <frustrat3d> I just want to change DHCP to static IP
[23:40] <linux-hdtv> goshawk, there is a bookmarks.html there, but it contains only the bookmarks shipping with firefox. yours too ?
[23:40] <goshawk> frustrat3d: network manager plasmoid?
[23:40] <frustrat3d> goshawk: yes, that thing sucks.
[23:40] <dhq> how do i test my fan
[23:40] <goshawk> linux-hdtv: i just installed jaunty today, so i think it's the default too.
[23:40] <dhq> i have this feling my fan aint working
[23:41] <frustrat3d> it does not show my network interfaces when I open the configuration window
[23:41] <agoole> goshawk: ok, I dont know why the error is still there, because I removed the kdebase-workspace-data file
[23:41] <frustrat3d> despite showing their status in the popup window
[23:41] <goshawk> frustrat3d: in the configuration you don't see interfaces but profiles
[23:41] <agoole> goshawk: and now, after removing konsole, it simply generates the same error with ksysguard
[23:41] <BenPA> goshawk: done now what?
[23:41] <frustrat3d> goshawk: ok, so how do I see whatever profile it's using right now?
[23:42] <linux-hdtv> goshawk, if you add a bookmark, quit firefox, does it show in your .mozilla/firefox profile ?
[23:42] <frustrat3d> the gnome UI for this does show two "profiles" or whatever they are called.
[23:42] <frustrat3d> but I can't modify them there, it throws an erro rwhen trying to save
[23:42] <goshawk> BenPA: which one did you do apt-get or dpkg-reconfigure?
[23:43] <goshawk> linux-hdtv: give me a minute to test
[23:43] <frustrat3d> oh, and any profile I try to add doesn't seem to take effect
[23:43] <BenPA> goshawk: I did apt-get earlier as instructed then I did dpkg-reconfigure
[23:44] <goshawk> BenPA: did you select kdm in dpkg-reconfigure or did it prompt you anything
[23:44] <BenPA> goshawk: I selected KDM
[23:44] <Byron> I upgraded my AAO to 9.04. I don't know what it is, but something is causing my system to be slower than it was in Intrepid.
[23:45] <frustrat3d> goshawk: any FAQ on the crappy tool?
[23:45] <BenPA> goshawk: I selected KDM and it did not prompt me for anything
[23:45] <goshawk> frustrat3d: no, but it was quite easy for me. wait i didn't read your messages
[23:46] <david_k-cfd> goshawk: ok, done http://paste.ubuntu.com/158174/
[23:46] <goshawk> BenPA: you finished, just reboot, and when you login select KDE as session
[23:46] <MushroomKingdom> !universe
[23:46] <BenPA> goshawk: ok hold a sec
[23:46] <frustrat3d> goshawk: the gnome thing does seem easy enough for me to do. but it doesn't work. and the plasma thing does not appear to work properly at all.
[23:46] <Byron> How do I get knetworkmanager to start up like it did with Intrepid?
[23:46] <frustrat3d> I hate shitty software that hides the guts of the operation from you.
[23:47] <linux-hdtv> MushroomKingdom, did you install medibuntu ?
[23:47] <goshawk> frustrat3d: do you ahve any probile in wired?
[23:47] <Byron> linux-hdtv: While that wasn't meant for me, thanks for the reminder. I have to go add the medibuntu repos to my sources.
[23:47] <frustrat3d> no
[23:47] <sd32> !ati
[23:47] <frustrat3d> well, I can add one.
[23:47] <frustrat3d> goshawk: but that doesn't seem to matter.
[23:48] <goshawk> frustrat3d: if you plug the cable, does it work?
[23:48] <linux-hdtv> great, byron :-)
[23:48] <frustrat3d> goshawk: I'm talking to you over the link. it's running as dhcp right now. the popup shows two conns(mb has 2 eth). but no profiles in the plastma config portion
[23:48] <MushroomKingdom> linux-hdtv: i think so
[23:48] <goshawk> david_k-cfd: do you have a Nokia 5200 connected to your pc?
[23:49] <goshawk> yep frustrat3d it's the same as me
[23:49] <goshawk> frustrat3d: despite the fact that it worked when i just plug in
[23:49] <frustrat3d> goshawk: if I run nm-connection-editor from the network-manager-gnome package, I see "Auto eth1" and "Auto eth0", and try to edit them but get an error at the end.
[23:49] <DurtDiggler> everytime I try to install this I get error saying my disk is messed up
[23:49] <DurtDiggler> but I checked the disk and it's fine
[23:49] <frustrat3d> goshawk: but if I run the plasma thing, I see neither.
[23:50] <david_k-cfd> yes, I do
[23:50] <DurtDiggler> how do you get kubuntu to install
[23:50] <leleobhz> guys, how can i add to desktop a .skz plasmoid in kde (kubuntu 9.04)
[23:50] <leleobhz> ?
[23:50] <DurtDiggler> no other OS seems to have a problem
[23:50] <frustrat3d> goshawk: hmm, so you're actually in the same boat as me.
[23:50] <david_k-cfd> goshawk: yes I do
[23:50] <goshawk> frustrat3d: what do you have in /etc/network/interfaces
[23:50] <frustrat3d> auto lo0
[23:50] <frustrat3d> iface lo inet loopback
[23:50] <goshawk> frustrat3d: exactly like me
[23:50] <frustrat3d> minus the 0
[23:51] <leleobhz> because it dont install, even if i use the plasmoid installer, from kde
[23:51] <goshawk> david_k-cfd: is it related to the key or not? i mean the nokia 5200
[23:51] <BenPA> goshawk: I am back to where I started ... my laptop just says Starting up ... and nothing happens   the kernel is Ubuntu 9.04 2.6.28-11-generic so I tried kernel 2.6.24-23-generic and it works ... how do I fix this?
[23:51] <frustrat3d> goshawk: so no idea how to change this in kde, huh?
[23:52] <goshawk> BenPA: can you explain the "nothing happens" betteR?
[23:52] <goshawk> frustrat3d: no,
[23:52] <goshawk> frustrat3d: no idea
[23:52] <frustrat3d> dammit. well thanks for listening.
[23:52] <goshawk> frustrat3d: you can also try
[23:52] <frustrat3d> personally I wish they'd never started this damn project.
[23:52] <frustrat3d> this being NetworkManager
[23:52] <goshawk> creating a profile
[23:52] <BenPA> goshawk: it freezes and does not do anything
[23:53] <goshawk> that accepts dhcp
[23:53] <goshawk> using the wired interface
[23:53] <frustrat3d> goshawk: why accepts dhcp?
[23:53] <goshawk> BenPA: is there something written?
[23:53] <goshawk> frustrat3d: what? i don't get
[23:53] <david_k-cfd> goshawk:yes, it is....I mean, the nokia 5200 has a mini sd in it that I'm trying to access
[23:53] <BenPA> goshawk: nothing
[23:54] <goshawk> david_k-cfd: well, your sd is in sdc
[23:54] <goshawk> sdc1
[23:54] <goshawk> david_k-cfd: /dev/sdc1
[23:54] <BenPA> goshawk: It will not boot into the kernel for Ubuntu 9.04 2.6.28-11-generic
[23:54] <DurtDiggler> always another error
[23:54] <DurtDiggler> can't this just install
[23:55]  * leleobhz ask for someone....
[23:55] <goshawk> BenPA: i try an update-initramfs
[23:55] <BleSS> my usb memories are not being mounted, dmesg | tail doen't show nothing about it, any idea?
[23:55] <BenPA> goshawk: hold a sec
[23:56] <goshawk> aa
[23:56] <radovic> hello
[23:56] <goshawk> it's very late for me
[23:56] <goshawk> sorry for all the guys i was helping but i've to go
[23:56] <goshawk> (well, not helping, at least trying to help)
[23:56] <goshawk> :)
[23:57] <goshawk> so goodnights
[23:57] <radovic> goot night
[23:57] <radovic> so, anyone using 9.04?
[23:57] <sd32> of course
[23:58] <Byron> Many people have upgraded, from what I've seen
[23:58] <radovic> I am very pleased of the looks and speed of kde4 and the system overall
[23:58] <frustrat3d> goshawk: I don't understand why a new profile would need to "accept" dhcp. whatever you think "accept" means.
[23:58] <frustrat3d> bah.
[23:59] <frustrat3d> he left.
[23:59] <frustrat3d> awesome. love this shit.
[23:59] <radovic> mine box boots in 33 seconds to a fully working desktop
[23:59] <Laeborg> I don't like the Network Management. Give me knetowrkmanager back :P
[23:59] <BenPA> goshawk: it says specify at least one of -c -u or -d
[23:59] <frustrat3d> Laeborg: I agree. or better yet, let me do my own shit in /etc/network/interfaces.
[23:59] <Laeborg> :P
[23:59] <radovic> is kde3 in the repo?
[23:59] <frustrat3d> these gui's just get in my way.
[23:59] <linux-hdtv> frustrat3d, laeborg, all the victims should file a bug report ...