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jStefanHi, i'm having problems reporting a bug, i started apport and i have the crash file, but it says i dont have enough memory to process it.00:39
jStefanmy system has 2gb of physical memory and 1.5gb of swap00:42
jStefanall of swap is free atm and 1495544 of mem is free00:43
jStefan'Sorry, the program "brasero" closed unexpectedly'00:48
jStefan'Your computer does not have enough free memery to automatically analyze the problem and send a report to the developers.'00:48
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jStefanwhat can i do?00:49
vocxUbuntu 9.04, System > Administration > Software Sources seems like it's not using modern widgets, it looks like it is using plain old GTK 1.0 widgets, everything seems very square, and not smooth, there are other windows like this too.01:24
vocxUSB Startup Disk Creator, Synaptic, Software Sources, Login Window, Computer Janitor, they all default to the ugly raleigh or redmond controls' theme, but maybe because I was using a theme called SnowIsh, still don't know why they don't accept it... so it may be a false alarm, maybe it's the theme...01:41
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sleeHi I have found a bug with upgrade to jaunty10:17
sleebut it's not clear to be where the bug tracker is10:17
slee*me10:17
sleehow should I procede?10:17
* slee sees the channel header 'reporting bugs' and goes to read - why could I not find that on web site?10:19
BUGabundoguud morning10:20
BUGabundoslee: need help?10:20
sleehey yes I wanted to search and raise a bug but could not find how form website10:21
sleeonly found forums and triage10:21
sleeany way the problem is after upgrade the gdm theme file Human/ubuntu.png is missing10:21
sleecausing error at startup10:21
sleehave same on 2 machines10:22
sleeBUGabundo: ^10:22
sleeI copied from HumanFeisty10:22
BUGabundostrange10:23
sleeis that a reported bug?10:23
BUGabundowhat theme engine are you using ?10:23
BUGabundoslee: check http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu to see if it is there.10:23
sleedunno so must be dfault10:23
sleeah launchpad10:24
BUGabundo !launchpad10:25
BUGabundo !ping10:25
BUGabundohumm bot is dead?10:25
sleeBUGabundo: no sign of it so will use ubuntu-bug10:26
BUGabundookay10:27
sleeBUGabundo: : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/36662210:33
sleethks10:33
* BUGabundo kicks bot10:34
* Elbrus too10:34
jpdsBUGabundo: It's gone.10:34
BUGabundothey all are10:35
Elbrusbut the question is: whereto?10:35
Elbruslogbot isn't10:35
FlannelElbrus: vacation.10:36
BUGabundothere isn't a single one on #ubuntu-bots10:36
FlannelElbrus: So much work due to Jaunty, we decided to give her the day off.10:36
ElbrusI see ubuntulog10:36
Elbrusaha, I see10:36
* slee grins at though of sunbathing bots10:36
* Elbrus would be interested to see them too10:36
* Elbrus wonders how bits look like10:37
* slee thinks sunburnt10:37
* slee waves10:37
affluxbug 366535 is about kubuntu creating wrong entries in grub's menu.lst. What package should I assign it to?10:57
ubot4Launchpad bug 366535 in grub-choose-default "Kubuntu registers itself in /boot/grub/menu.lst as Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36653510:57
jpdsErm, that's not a bug.10:58
jpdsKubuntu base is Ubuntu.10:58
BUGabundocan some one triage bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/36662911:04
ubot4Launchpad bug 366629 in grub "grub wont accept vga=360" [Undecided,New]11:04
BUGabundothanks11:04
affluxjpds: I do know that. However, I think I remember kubuntu adding "Kubuntu" entries to menu.lst11:05
jpdsafflux: Try asking in #kubuntu-devel.11:06
* BUGabundo changes nick to BUG-a-bot LOL11:06
affluxjpds: will do that, thanks11:08
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BUGabundostupid question: doesn't find expand results from .bashrc?11:36
danagegvfsd-smb timeouts in jaunty, is that a known issue? i need to end the process and restart, then mount the share again to make it work11:45
BUGabundohow do I send a bug to upstream GNU?12:03
BUGabundohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36666512:03
ubot4Launchpad bug 366665 in findutils "find wont use .bashrc alias" [Undecided,New]12:03
maxbBUGabundo: I think that behaviour, whilst counter-intuitive, is not a bug12:05
BUGabundomaxb: oh no?12:06
BUGabundowhy?12:06
kklimondaBUGabundo: I'm not sure if it's a bug and not a limitation.12:06
BUGabundoisn't find running in my bash?12:06
kklimondano12:06
kklimondait's a program12:06
BUGabundoit *should* read my .bashrc12:06
kklimondaand what if you don't use zsh?12:06
maxbAn alias is inherently a text processing filter solely within your shell. So it's definitely not available when executing a program from something else12:06
kklimondas/zsh/bash/12:07
BUGabundomaxb: but doesnt it set Variables for session?12:08
* BUGabundo welcomes kimus12:08
maxbbash execs find, which execs mp3gain. There is no shell in between find and what it execs12:08
BUGabundoahh12:09
BUGabundoright12:09
BUGabundoso it's the new shell from exec that lost .bashrc settings12:09
maxbno!12:09
maxbthere is no new shell12:09
* BUGabundo is learning a lot12:10
maxbfind execs mp3gain totally without the involvement of any shel12:10
maxbl12:10
BUGabundobut that's is too far12:10
BUGabundothe bug is in between12:10
BUGabundowhen bash starts find12:11
BUGabundofind should have the info from .bashrc12:11
BUGabundoand expand the existing alias12:11
kklimondaBUGabundo: i don't think that aliases are, like env vars, passed to program12:11
BUGabundoso, replacing mp3gainB with mp3gain -bla -foo12:11
maxberm. You want bash to know the command line syntax of every program that it will ever invokes so that it can deduce which bits of it might be commands? Impossible.12:12
kklimondaBUGabundo: so for it to work find would have to manually parse all ~/.*shrc files..12:12
kimushow alias work in first place?12:13
BUGabundoI though the shell would expand alias in runtime12:13
BUGabundoso calling find -exec command/alias12:14
maxbkimus: Purely within your shell, doing a search/replace on the beginning of every command you type12:14
BUGabundoshould be same thing12:14
maxbNo, they are implemented very differently12:14
BUGabundoso the prob here is that -exec new command doesnt parse .bashrc12:14
maxbNo12:14
BUGabundonot bug, but feature12:14
maxbHaving find try to mess around parsing any shell's files is very definitely not the right way to do it12:15
kklimondaBUGabundo: bash would have to magically know that an argument you pass to a program is an alias you wan't it to expand.12:15
kimusmaxb: let's start on that... the -exec command ... the command should be on PATH right?12:15
kklimondawant*12:15
maxbkimus: precisely - and an alias is just an entry in the memory of your shell, not a file on PATH12:16
kimusbut If I change the PATH on an bashrc... the find knows right?12:16
maxbyes12:17
kklimondakimus: because PATH is explicitly passed to find12:17
kklimondaas a environment variable12:17
maxbPATH is an environment variable. environment variables inherit from process to child process12:17
BUGabundobut .bashrc alias are not in the env variables?12:17
maxbno, they aren't12:18
kklimondano12:18
BUGabundook12:18
kimusyou can obtain the alias :-)12:18
mrooneyWhere might I file a bug if a package doesn't exist for a certain arch? In that package?12:19
maxbmrooney: probably yes. Do you know why it's arch-restricted?12:19
mrooneymaxb: sun-java6-bin is the issue, I was attempting to get java running on my arm server12:20
maxberm12:20
maxbsun-java6 is closed-source and produced by Sun12:20
mrooneyare you sure it is closed source?12:20
mrooneyIt seems something is available: http://download.java.net/jdk6/source/12:21
maxbok, not exactly closed source, but "source available under restricted license for research purposes"12:21
maxbBut the point being that Ubuntu just repackages binaries built by Snu12:22
maxb* Sun12:22
mrooneyWell, I don't specifically need sun java12:22
BUGabundoopenjdk12:22
BUGabundothat would solve it, no?12:22
mrooneyBUGabundo: I thought I tried that once before but, let me try it again :)12:23
kimusBUGabundo: openjdk != sun-java ... does not work sometimes :-p12:24
mrooneyI will give openjdk-6-jre-headless a shot12:24
maxbopenjdk-6 is trying to build on armel, but it seems to be failing to build: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/25470876/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-armel.openjdk-6_6b14-1.4.1-0ubuntu7_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz12:24
maxboh, though the previous version built12:25
mrooneyyeah12:25
maxbstill, that looks like it still has reliability issues12:25
mrooneyOkay well I can java -version, that's a start12:26
mrooneyBUGabundo: wow, that worked, thanks so much! I swear I tried that but I guess not12:33
BUGabundooh don't thank me. I had nothing to do with it12:35
BUGabundoI just mentioned the app LOL12:35
Rafik_hi, can anyone look at bug 364866 please12:59
ubot4Launchpad bug 364866 in ubuntu "9.04: ABSOLUTELY INACEPTABLE / URGENT: Desktop freezes !" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36486612:59
james_wIs it me or is there not a graphics card in the lspci output?13:03
james_wanyway, reassign to xserver-xorg, and have the reporter run "apport-collect 364866" to gather some more information13:05
james_whttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Reporting has some good information on what to request for X bugs13:05
kklimondajames_w: there is "Radeon Mobility X1800"13:06
james_wah, thanks13:06
james_wso it's not the bug Matt pointed to13:07
Rafik_james_w> I do or you will ? (assign and ask for apport-collect)13:20
Rafik_maybe someone (with better English than mine) want to do and add some words as the reporter is upset ^^13:22
james_wRafik_: go ahead, you are doing a good job13:31
Rafik_thanks13:32
porthoseWould someone please set #366702 to triaged for me please.14:05
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hggdhbug 36670215:15
ubot4Launchpad bug 366702 in computer-janitor "computer-janitor manpage typo" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36670215:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 366702 in computer-janitor "computer-janitor manpage typo" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36670215:15
ubot4Launchpad bug 366702 in computer-janitor "computer-janitor manpage typo" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36670215:15
ubottuUbuntu bug 366702 in computer-janitor "computer-janitor manpage typo" [Low,Triaged]15:15
ubot4Ubuntu bug 366702 in computer-janitor "computer-janitor manpage typo" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36670215:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 366702 in computer-janitor "computer-janitor manpage typo" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36670215:15
hggdhwho is ubot4 (meaning do we need TWO bots here)?15:16
KangaroooHello15:19
Kangarooohello https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/362569 :) copy paste not working  :)15:20
Kangaroooand i wanted to add feature to quicksynergy- auto start and auto login :) synergy can be made like that but quick synergy also needs that :)15:20
KangaroooThis is big one --> In xubuntu there is no guest account logging button.. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/gdm-guest-login   how to add tihs to wishlist for xubuntu also?15:20
ubottuUbuntu bug 362569 in quicksynergy "Copy Paste Not Working" [Undecided,New]15:20
ubot4Launchpad bug 362569 in quicksynergy "Copy Paste Not Working" [Undecided,New]15:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 362569 in quicksynergy "Copy Paste Not Working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36256915:20
ubot4Ubuntu bug 362569 in quicksynergy "Copy Paste Not Working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36256915:20
Ampelbeinhggdh: don't know who ubot4 is. but that's definitely more irritating than useful15:21
Ampelbein!ops15:21
ubot4Help! Seveas, Hobbsee, gnomefreak, coleSLAW, or dholbach15:21
ubottuHelp! Seveas, Hobbsee, gnomefreak, coleSLAW, or dholbach15:21
hggdhAmpelbein, I think it came from -testing15:21
hggdhheh15:22
hggdhat least the ops get two help requests...15:22
Ampelbeinhggdh: but he's only in #ubuntu-irc and here...15:22
AmpelbeinI'll join #-irc and ask there15:22
hggdhAmpelbein, ubottu has gone away15:25
hggdhbug 36256915:25
ubot4Launchpad bug 362569 in quicksynergy "Copy Paste Not Working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36256915:25
hggdhyay15:25
Ampelbeinwoohoo ;-)15:26
hggdhKangarooo, open a bug against Xubuntu, and ask for a guest account button as in the blueprint you show15:29
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atempuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-app-install/+bug/36641418:22
ubot4Launchpad bug 366414 in gnome-app-install "Add/Remove application doesn't display applications properly" [Undecided,New]18:22
atempuAnyone else facing the same bug?18:22
hggdhatempu, there is a bug on g-a-i on failing to clean up after a search that returns no hits18:24
hggdhatempu, see bug 35456318:27
ubot4Launchpad bug 354563 in gnome-app-install "gnome-app-install has problems with searching" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35456318:27
atempuAh.18:29
hggdhalthough your scenario is not quite the same, if I correctly understood your description18:31
atempuYeah but the core problem is the same from the looks of it18:34
hggdhI though so -- it may be different symptoms of the same core bug, but I am not sure18:34
hggdhatempu, in any of these searches, did you get at least one "no hits"?18:36
hggdhthen it would be the same thing18:36
atempuThat's the thing, I got 0 hits with one thing I'm sure was there18:36
atempuIt was a clean install so I was searching and checking/selecting a bunch of applications to install at once18:37
hggdhatempu, I updated the bug18:39
jpdsAmpelbein,, hggdh: ubot4 is mine.20:05
jpdsAmpelbein, hggdh: I put it here cos ubottu was AWOL earlier on today.20:05
jpdsAmpelbein: And it is NOT only on -irc - it has the invisible mode set.20:09
hggdhjpds, thanks, I was wondering about it20:33
hggdhjpds, right now ubot4 is the official bot ;-)20:33
emil_sHi all! I think #344847 should be set to "Wishlist". Or am I wrong?20:54
emil_shttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/34484720:54
ubot4Launchpad bug 344847 in plasma-widget-network-manager "Impossible to add routes for NM using plasma-widget-network-manager" [Undecided,New]20:54
hggdhemil_s, it seems it could. But the bug is still in NEW status. What have you done to verify it to be a valid, er, wish?21:01
emil_shggdh: Whopps. Forgot this. Sorry. Well, I can confirm that there is no way to add a route. But I don't know if it's a bug or a feature request. But since the route-option isn't implanted, it should be a missing feature, right?22:12
emil_sBut if it's a feature request, should I set the status to confirmed, or invalid? (since it's not a bug)22:13
dtchenwishlist/confirmed22:15
emil_sdtchen: Ok, thanks22:17
emil_sOk, confirmed it now... So now someone just have to set it as "whichlist"22:28
emil_shttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/34484722:28
ubot4Launchpad bug 344847 in plasma-widget-network-manager "Impossible to add routes for NM using plasma-widget-network-manager" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:28
dtchendone.22:31
hggdhemil_s, sorry, got busy22:35
emil_sAnd for this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/325592, I found the upstream report here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18831822:46
ubot4Launchpad bug 325592 in plasma-widget-network-manager "Wireless networks overlap in new knetworkmanager applet" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:46
emil_sBut how do I "link" them to each other in Launchpad?22:46
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Ampelbeinemil_s: click the "also affects project" link and add the url of the bugtracker there. that way, launchpad will auto-update the remote bug status.22:48
emil_sAmpelbein: Tried that, but I get "There is no project in Launchpad named "https://bugs.kde.org/......"22:50
emil_sOr ah... You mean only "https://bugs.kde.org"?22:50
dtchenemil_s: it's generally easier.22:52
dtchenemil_s: see the comment i just made22:52
dtchenemil_s: LP will parse the URL and add it as a remote bug watch; see the trailing vertical edge (right, probably)22:52
Yassine1Hello !22:52
emil_sdtchen: Ah, ok. Thanks! :)22:54
Yassine1Hi, I am new. I like Ubuntu, and I am willing to track bugs a few hours a week. No one to welcome me ?22:54
dtchenYassine1: welcome. please see the topic.22:54
Yassine1HI. I am a little bit LOST. that's my first IRC.22:55
Yassine1Please be gentle ; )22:55
Yassine1Where is the topic :-D ?22:55
emil_sYassine1: Probably above/belove this window. Try /topic :)22:56
Yassine1Le sujet courant est : Ubuntu BugSquad | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | If you have been triaging bugs for a while, please apply to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/ | Want to report a bug? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs | User support (not related to triage) is in #ubuntu22:57
Yassine1Thank you.22:57
Yassine1I know I am on bugsquad channel.22:57
Yassine1Of which bug are you talking right now ?22:57
hggdhYassine1, right now, none (last doubt had just been set)22:59
Yassine1emil_s, are you still here ? if yes, I would like to aks you 2/3 questions.22:59
Yassine1OK, hggdh.23:00
Yassine1Thank you.23:00
Yassine1Are we (bug-squad  ) supposed to be programmers ... "apprentices" or something like that ?23:00
hggdhYassine1, no, we are not expected to be programmers23:00
Yassine1Well, can I suggest a bug, then .23:01
hggdhbut you can learn programming, if this is something you (would) like to do23:01
Yassine1It should be of very LOW priority, yet it is a bug.23:01
hggdhshoot23:01
Yassine1I am 17. I am leraning c++ and Pascal (PAscal @ school)23:01
Yassine1Well, I shut the hell up and listen to you guys, please continue !23:02
hggdhYassine1, go ahead -- you said you had a bug23:02
Yassine1Well. When you burn many disks with Brasero for instance,23:02
Yassine1and when it has burned one disk and is waiting for the next one,23:03
Yassine1when you put a blank cd,23:03
Yassine1you have the pop up windows that asks you wich program should be run, ecen though braser is running.23:04
hggdhah OK.23:04
Yassine1I suggest to create some /temp/brasero_running file.23:04
Ryan52that's a security risk.23:04
Yassine1like the .kde file23:04
Yassine1(23:04:40) Ryan52: that's a security risk.23:04
Ryan52but ya, that's besides the point ;)23:04
Yassine1hey be gentle, that's my first trial !23:05
hggdhno matter.23:05
hggdhYassine1, did you open a bug for this?23:05
Yassine1No,23:05
kklimondait probably should be done by dbus..23:05
Yassine1I know there are thousands of bugs23:05
Ryan52Yassine1: I'm being stupid, ignore me right now. ;)23:05
Yassine1So I would like to discuss with you guys,23:05
hggdhheh. Please do. There will be thousands plus one23:05
Yassine1find some "easy" bug,23:05
kklimondaYassine1: using files isn't really the way.23:06
Yassine1and find a solution, or at least a "work-around"23:06
affluxanyone knows why the libgcj-dev packages don't contain static files (libgcj.a)?23:06
Yassine1and publish it23:06
Ryan52maybe it would be better in brainstorm than as a bug?23:06
Ryan52or would it not?23:06
Yassine1Yes.23:06
hggdhI *do* see that as a bug, or (at least) incorrect behaviour23:06
Yassine1Ok.23:07
Yassine1I think hggdh is right, though.23:07
kklimondahggdh: it is a bug - but fixing it requires a brainstorm to find the right solution.. ;)23:07
hggdhno, fixing it requires a change upstream23:07
Yassine1Eu ...23:07
Yassine1what's a change upstream :-D23:07
kklimondahggdh: well - yes, but it is bigger problem than just fixing this one application.23:08
Yassine1I see.23:08
kklimondaYassine1: upstream is where all development of applications happens.23:08
Yassine1Do you know other applications behaving that way ?23:08
hggdhYassine1, brasero is a gnome application, and we, get it from there.23:09
Yassine1I mean, other burning programs,23:09
Yassine1or media players ,23:09
Yassine1who have this problem ???23:09
Yassine1I see !23:09
kklimondaYassine1: i guess it happens with all writing applications.23:09
Yassine1Well, can't Ubuntu folks write some fixes / patches for other open source soft. and give it to its publisher ?23:10
hggdhyes we can, and do. But we would rather use patches that have been approved upstream23:10
Yassine1Ok.23:10
hggdhso we try to send the patches upstream23:10
Yassine1Another question.23:11
Yassine1Ok, hggdh.23:11
Yassine1Another question,23:11
Yassine1If I, as Yassine, send a patch to the gnome team,23:11
Yassine1and have Mark Shuttlworf send the same patch,23:11
Yassine1is his request going to be considered as "prior" or more important than the one of a simple end-user ?23:12
kklimondaif both patches are fixing the same issue then I guess the better one would be included.23:12
* hggdh agrees23:13
affluxYassine1: could you please try to not spread your sentences over more than one line? :-)23:13
Yassine1I think I didn't explain enough.23:13
Yassine1Never mind.23:14
affluxMakes it a little bit difficult to follow23:14
Yassine1Well, about the Brasero Isue ?23:14
Yassine1Can anyone of you guys request a fix to the gnome team/community ?23:14
kklimondaYassine1: you can do it yourself at http://bugs.gnome.org/23:14
Yassine1OK, afflux. i am sorry.23:14
hggdhYassine1, not until we have a bug, or you open one upstream23:15
Yassine1:hggdh All righty, I will do it.23:15
hggdhalthough... I agree with kklimonda in that this is probably not a brasero bug... it is not brasero that is asking what you want to do with the new blank CD23:16
Yassine1Yes, but I said I thought brasero sould create some /temp/Braser_is_running file to tell everybidy he is running, no ?23:17
kklimondaYassine1: it isn't the way23:17
hggdhYassine1, not really23:17
kklimondaYassine1: communication between applications should be done by using dbus23:17
Yassine1dbus ?23:17
hggdhfirst, creating this file will not do anything unless other applications know about it23:17
Yassine1Ok, I will google it.23:17
Yassine1:hggdg I know,23:18
hggdhsecond, (as kklimonda stated) dbus would probably be better23:18
kklimondai guess that the application which is responsible for displaying this dialog should check if any dvd burner is running at the moment. The all different dvd burners should be patched to provide this information over dbus.23:18
Yassine1But , ... yes, my idea semms silly,23:18
hggdhthird -- again -- it is not brasero that is opening the dialog23:18
affluxbtw., this issue is a little bit more complicated: a user could have 10 cd-writers and he wanted to use the running brasero for writing to drive #1. So he still may expect the dialog from nautilus asking what to do with the newly inserted disk in drive #523:19
hggdhcorrect23:19
Yassine1correct23:19
Yassine1Well, let's talk of some really ANNOYING bug. You guys talk, and I learn. Continue please !23:20
Ryan52Yassine1: this channel is usually pretty quiet, so don't expect much ;)23:20
affluxyup. unless someone wants to reveal why we don't ship any static libgcj :)23:21
hggdhYassine1, BTW, a detail: we usually discuss bug triaging here (i.e., how to), not actual bugs.23:21
Yassine1Oh ! I am pretty disappointed. To which #ubuntu-channel do you advise me to go ?23:21
Yassine1bug triaging23:21
Yassine1What does it mean :-D ???23:21
affluxYassine1: the "channel" for bug reporting is actually https://launchpad.net/ubuntu ;)23:22
kklimondaYassine1: where to go depends on what you want to do ;)23:22
hggdhYassine1, bug triaging is the process of finding out what the bug reporter actually meant, and gathering enough data to validate or reject a bug23:22
Yassine1Oh ! Well, sone publish a bug at launchpad, and you guys check if the bug really exists, and if it does, you send some message to developers ?23:22
Yassine1OK, hggdh, thanks.23:23
affluxYassine1: or we are developers and fix it ourselves.23:23
Yassine1Ok.23:23
affluxwhich is the case for quite a lot of people using lp, but not for me :(23:23
hggdhheh23:23
Yassine1Can anyone pick a bug and I (for instance) will devote one or two hours testing what he said ? Let's do it !23:24
affluxYassine1: you can see new bugs appearing in #ubuntu-bugs-announce23:24
hggdhYassine1, the best way is to list the current bugs, and *you* select one you think you can deal with.23:24
Yassine1!kklimonda I want to go to some channel like that : "Genius 1 says : There is a bug in Yassine Application"23:25
ubot4Yassine1: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:25
hggdhYassine1, then... you can ask here the what/why/how/when of doing it23:25
Yassine1"Genius 2 :" let's try this, Yassine, you do the testing !23:25
porthoseYassine1: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad ;-)23:26
hggdhYassine1, you really should start by reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/KnowledgeBase23:26
Yassine1Ok you guys, but read the first link.23:26
Yassine1Thanks. I will "mature" a little and be back later on.23:27
Yassine1Bye !23:27
hggdhYassine1, thnak you for helping23:27
hggdhmerci beaucoup23:27
Yassine1(23:27:35) hggdh: Yassine1, thnak you for helping --> that's humour.23:27
Yassine1You noticed my IRC client speaks french !23:28
Yassine1De rien ;-D.23:28
hggdhno, it is not: you are *willing* to help, and that is good.23:28
* porthose agrees with hggdh23:28
Yassine1Ok, bonne nuit !23:28
hggdhbonne nuit a toi, et merci23:28
Yassine1Hey, hggdh, on se reparlera, ça fait plaisir !23:29
hggdhbien sur23:29
Yassine1A bientôt.23:29

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