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SiDi4.6.1 installed, rebooting :/00:00
SiDioh btw, does anyone mind pastebining his menu.lst please ?00:01
zoredacheSiDi: why?00:02
SiDii'm missing some options and i can't remember00:02
SiDiwether its splash or nosplash00:02
SiDiand i think i'm missing quiet, too00:03
SiDiWhat do you have in the defoptions line, please ?00:03
zoredachehttp://pastebin.com/ff20501800:03
SiDiThanks00:03
basajaunbye all00:14
zerothisis is possible to create a link or symlink that anyone can run but only root can delete?00:16
charlie-tcayes, should be able to make it executable by other but owned by root00:17
zerothisI've created a link owned by root, but I am able to delete is as a user. a symlink is the same. Is it possible that my usr is root? because there exists a separate root user00:21
charlie-tcapermissions should be owned by root, in group root, only executable by other00:22
zerothisI think I did that chown root:root  , chmod 644 , chmod +x00:24
FeisarI just installed 9.04 and my rt2500 wifi card still connects at 1mb/s - 8.04 and 8.10 both did this, does anyone know if this going to be fixed?00:25
SiDiFinally \o/00:32
* SiDi now officially uses gnome-keybinding and gnome-settings-daemon.00:32
knome:P00:32
SiDi:p00:32
knomewhere's the official announcement notes?00:33
SiDiI would post it to my blag, but i don't have any.00:33
knomeduh.00:33
SiDiHonnestly, i'm very disappointed by this shortcut problem. It doesnt come from the migration script as even after wiping out the current shortcuts and reinstalling xfce's core packages it was still happening00:34
knomemmh.00:34
SiDiand it didnt happen at all in my jaunty rc testing distro00:34
SiDiI really really don't understand what went wrong, but it was bad. I just hope i'll hold till karmic:P00:34
* knome farts loudly and asks to whine to xfce developers :P00:35
SiDiI spotted an interesting message on a debian bug tracker mailing list, related to exactly the same problem00:35
SiDii'm gonna check this out later00:35
knomeright00:35
SiDiknome, how is the finnish translation in jaunty ?00:38
SiDiIt seems we had a lot of regressions in french :/00:38
knomei have no idea about the finnish translation.00:38
SiDiyou're using it in english ? :P00:39
knomesure.00:39
knomealways.00:39
knomehttp://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/funny-dog-pictures-this-dog-has-two-bones.jpg00:40
SiDixD00:41
BSEI am using english as well00:41
SiDiThats so true00:41
BSEif you can use english version, there is no reason to use translated one. maybe to be helpful in translation process [for example bug reports]00:43
korahi im using xubuntu 8.10, what do i need to do, in order to make my action buttons or the quit button in the menu popup the shut down prompt? everytime i click quit, it just quits the session and im in gdm, any idea?01:05
SiDikora, Apps -> Xfce settings -> Session & boot -> Check the checkbox 'prompt what to do when i click the quit button'01:13
SiDi(translation IS approximative :p)01:13
koraSiDi: thanks a lot wonder how that disappeared ^^01:15
SiDikora, you're welcome01:15
arrrghhhwhat's the applet to control the volume in xfce?02:04
arrrghhhi had it in my startup before the jaunty update, and it's gone again.02:05
charlie-tcaxfce4-mixer ?02:05
arrrghhhcharlie-tca, that looks like it'll control the volume... hrm i wonder if i was using a gnome app before.  it integrated nicely next to the network manager.02:06
charlie-tcaOn the panel, just right-click the panel, left-click add to panel, add "volume control"02:06
arrrghhhder02:07
arrrghhhthanks!02:07
charlie-tcaYou are welcome02:07
arrrghhhdunno why i never think of that.  damn work keeps putting my mindset to windows!02:07
charlie-tcayeah, work does tend to get in the way...02:08
arrrghhhi mean we run netware and linux for pretty much all our servers, but every desktop is windows.  i don't see this changing at all.  especially when we finally migrate off of edirectory.02:09
arrrghhhand pretty much all my support is desktop-based.  rarely do i get to build or work with server.02:09
arrrghhhah well, i'm out.  thanks!02:12
bigbrovarhas anybody installed xubuntu on a netbook, is there any major performance improvement over ubuntu02:16
retourissues with latest Xubuntu 9.04. How to re/configure network???02:19
charlie-tcaretour: I do it the same way I have since hardy 8.04, using network-manager-applet in the panel02:21
evilbugif i update my system now will the update take a long time?03:16
MTec007after upgrading to 9.04 firefox does not save any changed made to preferences or bookmarks. what do i do to allow these changes to be saved?03:49
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igor1121Good evening. I have a question. I just upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 on my Lenovo T60p laptop. Now when I boot up the system seems to boot fine until X.org start at which point the screen is garbled and the machine seems frozen. When this happens I cannot switch to a different virtual console and the machine does not respond to CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE. Any ideas on what to do?03:57
igor1121BTW, I switched to using vesa driver in xorg.conf and it's still the same result. It's not a hardware issue since the livecd works fine.03:58
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forcessaluton04:22
R1cochetsaluton04:44
The-KernelI have a bit of a problem, when trying to burn a 7.5 gig ISO to a dvd, it says it wont fit...even though I got the ISO from a DVD...05:08
The-Kernelwhat's a program that can write it to the disc?05:09
R1cochethow big is the disc?05:14
The-Kernel4.705:15
R1cochettheres your problem05:15
The-Kernelbut the ISO came off a 4.7 gig disc...05:15
R1cochetu sure05:15
R1cochetand how did u rip it?05:15
The-KernelKB305:16
R1cochetu sure the original was only 4.7?05:17
zoredache_why do you think it was only 4.7gb?05:18
The-KernelYeah, because it came off of a DVD+R that was only 4.7 to begin with05:18
R1cochetthen y not copy the disc?05:19
The-KernelI don't have it anymore :(05:20
The-KernelI made a backup of it onto my HDD just in case it went away05:20
The-Kernelnow that it has, I can't get it back on a disc!05:20
R1cochetmount the iso and grab what u need05:21
The-Kernelits a video05:22
R1cochetu can use "gmount-iso" for gui05:22
zoredache_how did you make a backup?05:23
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zoredache 05:24
The-KernelWhat I did was select Copy DVD, the source was the DVD, the destination was into an ISO05:24
The-KernelI used Brasero's to do that though...05:25
The-Kernelanother question, any program that could take an avi video file, and burn in onto a DVD but be playable via a DVD player?05:26
R1cochetyea05:27
R1cochetDeVeDe05:28
R1cochetbut i usually make svcd w/ it.  it can do a dvd tho05:28
geniiTranscoding usually takes a while...05:29
owen1_i added 'XTerm*termName:  xterm-256color' to .Xresources and i run xrdb ~/.Xresources .   i open new xterm and type 'tputs colors' and get 8. any ideas how to set 256 colors on xterm?05:41
R1cochetwhen i  click on upgrade, update manager goes to sleep06:37
R1cochetnevermind06:38
owen1_how to add new fonts to ~/.Xresoures?  after adding them to ~/.fonts ? (btw, i can't see them in xfontsel)07:27
kbmaniacgee its quiet here - Just wanted to say 9.04 rocks - thanks guys for a fantastic release. :)08:56
Sinisterwhy is the new amarok so damn slow anyone know09:20
SlonkieMight wanna ask the guys behind amarok, Sinister ? #amarok i think their in09:22
knomeyes, #amarok09:24
Sinisterid love to meet the idiot that puts sounds on everything open something bing close it bong09:33
Sinisterhow do i go to a differnt version older verizon of amarok?09:52
R1cochetwhat version09:54
Sinisterwhat evers before this 2.09:54
Sinisteri hate it09:54
R1cochetwhat about it?09:55
Slonkiei remember back in intreped i just installed the package "amarok" (Which was 1.4) but now that package is 2.x i believe09:56
R1cochethttp://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Download:Debian09:57
SlonkieAnyone have any idea how to add an network printer in xubuntu?10:01
solotimhello, all, quick question: How can upgrade to 9.04 from 8.04? except burning cd and reinstall.11:16
Slonkiedid you try to run the update-manager ?11:18
SlonkieI think it'll tell you that an update is available!11:18
solotimSlonkie, yes, I want this way, but it does not tell me any new infomation11:21
Slonkiesec then11:21
solotimI turned something off before?11:21
Slonkieno idea11:22
solotim:) 3x11:22
Slonkiei can't seem to navigate on the xubuntu website11:22
Slonkiei know it's in the docs because i translated it once, but i can't find the damn docs anywhere lol11:22
solotimneither by google?11:23
solotimsearch the title?11:23
Slonkieehm11:24
Slonkiewell i found it now11:24
Slonkiebut it should tell you in the top of the update-manager that an upgrade is available11:24
Slonkieor not..11:24
Slonkiehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades see this link, solotim!11:25
solotimyes, it should, I have upgraded last year.11:25
SlonkieSorry for all this confusing talk, i'm new at using xubuntu11:25
solotimmaybe it's due to my 8.04 , not 8.1011:25
Slonkieoh! you'll have to upgrade to 8.10 and then 9.0411:25
solotimno, not confusing, :)11:25
Slonkieyou can't do 8.04 -> 9.0411:26
solotimyes, I think so, but now, I can't see "8.04->8.09" button now11:26
solotim8.1011:26
solotimsorry11:26
Slonkietry typing update-manger -d in terminal11:27
solotimwow, let me try11:27
solotim:D thank you !!!! Slonkie!11:28
solotimyou are right, :)11:28
SlonkieGreat :) no11:28
Slonkienp*11:28
PhotoguyAny ideas for making Xubuntu boot faster?11:40
SlonkieI wonder, how do i make something keep it's place on the desktop? things like thunar etc?11:45
nareshpuniahello11:46
nareshpuniais OpenOffice included in Xubuntu11:47
nareshpuniacan someone help me please11:47
SlonkieI don't think so11:48
SlonkieIt wasen't in 8.10 atleast11:48
nareshpuniaSlonkie: are u using Xubuntu11:49
SlonkieYes i am11:49
nareshpuniawhich version11:50
Slonkie9.0411:50
nareshpuniahow is this and how fast is it11:50
nareshpuniai m planning to install11:50
SlonkieI like it11:50
SlonkieI don't know how fast it is.. how can one explain?11:51
SlonkieI think it's fast, but you might think something else. :)11:51
nareshpuniamy system configuraton is p4 - 2.4 Ghz, 256 MB, 40 GB hard disk11:51
nareshpuniawill it work fine or increase ram11:51
SlonkieI'd say it'll work fine11:51
nareshpuniahow much difference is between Ubuntu and Xubuntu11:52
Slonkiexfce is more lightweight than gnome11:53
nareshpuniaspeciallly in Networking with other Windows XP pcs11:53
nareshpuniayea I heard about it11:53
SlonkieI must say so far i haven't been able to connect to my windows share11:53
SlonkieI might be doing something wrong tho11:53
nareshpuniabut Ubuntu does it in default config11:54
Slonkieall right11:54
nareshpuniabecause my hardware configuration is so old that I should  switch to Xubuntu11:55
nareshpuniaok I will give a try and get back to this IRC again11:55
nareshpuniathanks11:55
nareshpuniaand bye11:55
SlonkieGOod luck ;)11:55
nareshpuniaThanks11:55
SlonkieAnyone have any idea how to add an network printer in xubuntu?12:15
solotimhi, Slonkie, you can't access winXP box in you local network?12:27
SlonkieNo so far i haven't been able to connect to my windows share12:27
solotimwait a miniute, I share you something12:27
SlonkieCool12:27
solotimmount.cifs //192.168.0.102/'c$' /media/Bing_C -o username=XXX,password=XXX,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0775,dir_mode=077512:29
solotimas long as you can ping the winxp pc, you can mount its partition onto your xubuntu12:29
Slonkieso.. what's 'c$' ?12:31
Slonkiethe foldername?12:31
solotimno, you windows C:\12:32
SlonkieI diden't share whole C:\12:32
solotimoh, then you can subsitute the 'c$' to the shared folder name12:33
Slonkieand i ain't got no password on my xp either12:33
SlonkieShould i just leave XXX ?12:33
solotimno, no12:33
solotimit's should be the username/pwd of you windows login12:33
SlonkieI don't have it password protected.12:33
solotimwow12:33
solotimit's unsafe anyway12:34
solotimtry to use password.12:34
SlonkieIt's not unsafe in local network lol12:34
solotimor you can use "administrator" t12:34
solotimmaybe use your normal username, and leave the password blank12:35
solotimI am not something on this issue, but the command I offered works for me, and I create a script upon it.12:35
Slonkiedoesn't work for me12:49
SlonkieAnyone have any idea how to add an network printer in xubuntu?12:50
fantomedurezoHello13:21
fantomedurezoHow can I mount hard drive on xubuntu?13:21
Slonkiewhat filesystem is that harddrive?13:25
RuadhHi all13:27
SlonkieHello Ruadh !13:30
fantomedurezontfs13:31
fantomedurezobut with ubuntu there were noproblem13:31
Slonkie!ntfs3g | fantomedurezo13:31
Slonkie!ntfs3h13:31
Slonkie!ntfs3g13:31
Slonkiebot away13:32
fantomedurezobut I can't find the short-cut to sda13:32
SlonkieThere is no shortcut, you'll have to mount your NTFS drives13:32
fantomedurezoand when I print sudo mount sda,13:32
Keriohello13:32
fantomedurezofstab say there isn't sda hard drive13:33
fantomedurezoOn nautilus of ubuntu, I had to click on hard drive to mount it13:34
fantomedurezobut on nautilus of xubuntu, where are the hard drive???13:34
fantomedurezoI only see systm of file and the cd of xubuntu 8.1013:35
floatingjust installed xubuntu yesterday, kinda find it loading the cpu alot. im running a mp3 playlist with shorter than 1 minute tracks, and have a firefox window and a gnome-system-monitor mainly running. the processor is at 60-90% constantly, and my fans are keeping more noise than i have ever heard on windows xp14:15
floatingwhy is cpu loading the processor when i dont have really anything happening in them14:19
floatingi mean firefox14:20
floatingok, having ff tabs with some javascript loads it, but still closing those this is more demanding14:22
floating+fancy14:22
Feisarfloating: type 'top' in a terminal and see what is taking up the cpu usage14:23
floatingthe gnome-system-manager shows these too, (except for xorg which takes around 10-15%)14:25
floatingim looking for a system monitor tool that also shows some temperatures14:28
mib_b8xdrc55hello, xubuntu noob here14:31
Kangarooohttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/gdm-guest-login   how to add tihs to wishlist for xubuntu also?15:04
Kangarooo:)15:07
retourIn 9.04 network applet has issues. My net is working as configured during alternate install process but net applet in XFCE is not recognizing ANY network cards - everything is empty15:13
retourand there are no other icons apps allowing me to access NET configuration15:14
mogul218_are you connecting wirelessly or via ethernet?15:21
retourmogul218_, single ethernet card only15:22
KangaroooThis is big one --> In xubuntu there is no guest account logging button.. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/gdm-guest-login   how to add tihs to wishlist for xubuntu also?15:23
mogul218_retour go to system->administration->hardware drivers and make sure you don't need to activate a non propietary driver15:27
retourmogul218_, Thank You!15:28
cherylHello15:29
mogul218_retour no problem glad i could help15:29
cherylI am a noob, can someone help me get an awe32 working?15:30
cherylThanks anyway15:31
retourmogul218_, hmmm not that easy - the only one I see there is already active NVidia driver - nothing about my old Intel net card15:31
retourcheryl, AWE32 PCI or ISA?15:32
cherylI think it is PCI15:32
cheryllet me look, thanks for the help15:32
retourcheryl - what CPU?15:33
mogul218_retour is your ethernet on board or on a card?15:33
cherylintel deshutes, PCI15:33
retourmogul218_, PCI card, network works fines - using it right now - only this net applet is totally blind15:36
retourcheryl, whats your problem? is your AWE visible in the system hardware?15:37
cherylno, gstreamer says no sound hardware available15:38
mogul218_retour i'm going to switch to xfce desktop to see if i can see what you are talking about....are you referring to the default xubuntu network applet?15:38
retourmogul218_, Yes! the one on the top taskbar - top right corner15:40
retourand nothing else under Xubuntu default installed apps to access net config. And I've forgot all the commands from ifconfig if remember well15:41
cherylretour- Is there a GUI way to install hardware or do I have use terminal?15:41
retourcheryl, do you see your audio card after "alsamixer" in the terminal?15:45
cheryldo I just type that in terminal?15:46
retouryes15:46
cherylok15:46
retouralsamixer + enter15:46
cherylalsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory15:47
cherylthat is what came back in terminal15:48
retourhmm not good. I hope someone can help you. You have hardware problem. I use SB Live and in past 10 years of using linux never had audio hardware detection issues. Are you sure it is not on shared IRQ?15:49
cherylDon't know how to tell that in ubuntu. The motherboard is plug and play compatible. I am scrounging parts an OS for poor friend.15:50
floatinghow do i know if the xubuntu install has installed good drivers for my integrated graphics card ?15:53
retourcheryl you can check it during boot when BIOS is listing all the data. Press Pause/Break to stop it and see if you have 2 devices using same IRQ15:53
cherylThanks for the help, I will check that.15:53
retourfloating, if it works its good enoug BUT if you are a gamer and going for max performance you may like to install proprietary driver15:54
SlonkieAnyone have any idea how to add an network printer in xubuntu?15:54
retourSlonkie, what type of a printer? Connected via USB to other PC in the LAN?15:56
floatingit doesnt work very well. watching youtube videos loads the processor a lot, and the image is a like a dia show15:57
retourfloating, what card? ATI NVidia?15:57
Slonkieretour, it's connected to a "printer-server" from linksys15:57
Slonkienot a PC15:57
retourSlonkie, so I think it has own IP address in the net?15:58
SlonkieYea15:58
retourSlonkie, well so I think just set it up properly in CUPS15:59
Slonkiei have no idea how to setup anything i cups15:59
SlonkieIs there a gui for this?15:59
retourSlonkie, Sure in Xubuntu go to /Applications/System/Printing and when Printing App opens click on Add new printer and select proper boxes - depending what type of net print protocol your linksys is using16:01
floatingretour: it is this dell computer, but i cant find the info from here http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/opgx260/en/ug/index.htm16:02
Slonkiehmm thanks retour !! do you have any idea how i can search my lan for internal IPs?16:04
retourfloating, I'm afraid that you computer has an onboard glraphic chip instead of independent full video card - but let me check your link16:04
retourSlonkie, I would rather manually configure your linksys device and than input this value to the CUPS print server16:05
Slonkieit is configured allready16:06
SlonkieAnd i can't manually configure it.16:06
floatingyeah its onboard. on windows xp, i can install graphics drivers for the motherboard, which for example makes the youtube videos run smoothly. now on xubuntu, the videos are a dia show, just as they were on win xp prior the installation of those motherboards graphics drivers16:07
SlonkieCan one stop an downloading of a package?16:08
retourfloating, Your video is just a part of the chipset Intel 845G - Research data about this chipset - graphic part but If I remember well it was designed for cheap office puters so dont expect too much. But research I may be wrong. In case I'm not you can always buy for few bucks old AGP graphics card16:10
retourSlonkie, If it's configure already read it's config or manual etc until than it;s just a black box for you16:11
SlonkieLol16:11
SlonkieWill be scanning my network in windows then.16:12
retoursure16:12
retourSlonkie, what type/model I want to check on it16:12
SlonkieI don't know16:12
SlonkieIt's at my school i'm not in charge of it16:12
floatingoki, ill check abit later:)16:12
retourfloating, I would Google "Intel845G Xubuntu drivers/problems"16:13
retourSlonkie,  HAXOR hehehe16:13
floatingokthx, i get back to it after finland has beaten norway in hockey16:14
retourfloating, haha OK don drink too much to celebrate it16:15
cherylretour- I got it working, had to add the user in terminal, Apparantly that is necessary with latest version.16:17
cherylThanks so much for you help.16:18
retourcheryl, wait16:18
cherylok?16:19
retourHow adding a user helps detecting audio hardware? Your old user didn't have enough privilidges???16:19
cherylHang on I will find the command again.16:19
cheryl"sudo adduser x audio" then rebooted16:21
cherylgot info at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCardsCreativeLabs16:22
cherylNow if I can just get my intel i740 graphics card to go to high def mode.16:24
cherylI replace x with the account name i am using.16:24
retourcheryl, Ahh OK so your user was not allowed to use it - whacky! Google for it but don't expect stellar performance for in chipset graphic module.16:28
cherylDo you know how I can increase the resolution on my i740 graphic card?16:30
cherylThe user issue is probably because I am auto logging the account in.16:32
retourcheryl, you need to have latest available drivers for it to get max. Are you in XFCE now?16:34
cherylLOL, I think so.16:35
cherylI downloaded the xbuntu iso last nite. This computer was loaded from it. I would think that the driver would be there.16:37
retourcheryl, so how about using XFCE graphics settings?16:39
lakis1982hello ... i upgraded the xubuntu 8.10 to xubuntu 9 jaunty ... i have a keyboard that has some multimedia keys ..... the problem is that since i upgraded xubuntu the two buttons for incresing decreasing volume of system, do not work anymore... they do not respond.. does anyone know why ??? any solutions ???16:40
retourApplications/settings/Display? No go?16:40
cheryl800x600 is as high as it will go @ 6016:42
retourcheryl, OK so you have to manually edit X11 config16:43
retour/etc/X11 if I still remember it well16:44
cherylHow do I do that? LOL16:44
cherylIs that the command?16:44
retourit's a bit tricky since I don't know if your chipset requires linemode or not16:44
retourcheryl, it's a file with detailed description for all the parameters for your video card16:45
retouryou have to google for it. Make backup of your original config file in case something goes wrong and after reboot you will only have console mode16:45
NTFSYOU CANT SEE ME16:46
cherylgoogle for /etc/x11?16:46
retourcheryl, I use MC to navigate to folders and than edit file (F4)16:47
retourcheryl, Google for "i740 chipset X11 / config etc"16:47
retourcheryl, the file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf16:48
retourok be back later - have luck16:49
cherylok, ok, thanks16:49
lakis1982hello ... i upgraded the xubuntu 8.10 to xubuntu 9 jaunty ... i have a keyboard that has some multimedia keys ..... the problem is that since i upgraded xubuntu the two buttons for incresing decreasing volume of system, do not work anymore... they do not respond.. does anyone know why ??? any solutions ???17:00
lakis1982hello ... i upgraded the xubuntu 8.10 to xubuntu 9 jaunty ... i have a keyboard that has some multimedia keys ..... the problem is that since i upgraded xubuntu the two buttons for incresing decreasing volume of system, do not work anymore... they do not respond.. does anyone know why ??? any solutions ???17:10
Slonkielakis1982 do you see them as shortcuts in keyboard settings?17:23
lakis1982no17:23
SiDilakis1982, i have exactly the same problem17:23
SiDiand couldnt solve it17:24
SiDii ended up using gnome-keybindings instead of xfce's shortcuts17:24
lakis1982i am in settings > keyoboard >application shortcuts17:24
Slonkieokay lakis198217:24
lakis1982do u have xubuntu jaunty?17:24
Slonkielets try making them then17:24
SiDiSlonkie, can you please pastebin your .config/xfce4/xfconf/blabla/xfce4-keyboardblabla file please ?17:24
lakis1982ok slonkie17:25
Slonkieaumix -v-10 for your button that decreases volume17:25
Slonkieblabla? :P17:26
lakis1982slonkie u mean to put the command aumix -v-10   ??17:26
SlonkieYes lakis1982 :)17:26
SiDiSlonkie, :)17:26
lakis1982cool man17:27
lakis1982it works17:27
SiDi.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts.xml   <- please pastebin it, i wanna compare with mine17:27
lakis1982and for the increse aumix -v+10 ?17:27
Slonkiethen add aumix +v-10 increase17:27
lakis1982ok17:28
lakis1982do u know where these ccommands are placed?17:28
Slonkieplaced?17:28
Slonkiesec SiDi !17:28
SiDiThanks Slonkie17:28
Slonkiehttp://pastebin.com/m645bfb017:28
lakis1982whre are they as commands ?   in usr/bin folder ???17:28
SlonkieOh, i have no idea sorry17:29
lakis1982the correct commands is aumix -v+1017:29
Slonkieyes sorry17:30
SiDithanks17:30
lakis1982thanks17:31
topsyandpip56Hello17:36
topsyandpip56Anyone?17:36
floatinghmm, how can i see what video driver im using ? my /etc/X11/xorg.conf seem to be empty o.O17:53
BesogonWhat number have you got operational system? (8.10 or 9.04 or something else?)17:56
floatingjaunty jackalope 9.0417:58
BesogonI hear many options you can find in reestr. (May be them put it in reestr in xubuntu, I dont know)18:02
BesogonLike in Windows.18:02
knomereestr?18:03
BesogonIt in my language. I try to explain18:05
BesogonIn windows you type REGEDIT for open it18:05
floatingoh, there was a "hardware drivers" in the xfce menu. although when i open it, it doesnt find any drivers18:06
BesogonThen you use OPEN DRIVER18:07
BesogonWhat have you got graphics card? (nvidia, ati, intel)18:08
floatingi would like to try some other driver for my Intel 845G onboard graphic card. when i google something, i get some old info on xorg.conf, but xorg.conf is empty18:08
floatingwhen i typed: sudo lshw -c display, i get : description: VGA compatible controller18:10
keonneHello18:10
floatingproduct: 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device18:10
floatingand some more info018:10
keonneIm trying to do a clean install over my xubuntu 8.04 of Ubuntu 9.0418:11
keonnewhen I try to install it fails to launch the GUI and goes into terminal18:11
keonneI know the CD works because I used it just before on another computer18:11
keonnei?s there a way to install 9.04 from the command line18:12
glitsj16floating: "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep driver" might produce some more info on the X driver presently in use18:12
Besogonfloating, xorg.conf work like in old version UBUNTU, you can use old "how to".18:13
The-Kernelnone of the intrepid sources are resolving...18:13
The-Kernelanything going on?18:13
The-Kerneluh18:13
The-Kernelnevermind18:13
floatingsomeone says in yahoo http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081204201509AAERoWO "The intel drivers are all built right into the Linux kernel." .... but am i using an open driver, or vga compatible controller ? and can i try some other driver and how18:14
floatingBesogon: i can add things to my empty xorg.conf ?18:15
knomefloating, sure.18:15
Besogonfloating, sorry, I have worked only with nvidia. Why not? Just do backup your xorg.conf file18:16
floatingok. I just dont know where i can find the alternative driver :I the command glitsj16 gives more detailed info on .so files associated etc^^  ...hmm, i just dont know how i'd proceed now18:17
floatingi know this is a poor graphics device, but its usable on win xp, while on linux it is not exactly usable. when i put a youtube video on full screen, it is a dia show18:18
knomefloating, have you tried jockey?18:19
floatingno18:19
BesogonIs dia mean Defense Intelligence Agency? huh18:22
knome!ot | Besogon18:22
ubottuBesogon: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!18:22
floatinglol no. it means the video is not watchable, the fps is <518:22
Besogonfloating, did you install flash player? May be it's stupid quastion../18:25
glitsj16floating: are you on jaunty ?18:25
Besogonglitsj16,  yes he is on jainty.18:26
floatingyeah on jaunty. i installed the xubuntu-restricted-extras that installed flash, im not exactly sure which flash it uses, didnt see details18:26
floatingbut thats a good point, i could try some other flash18:27
floatingthere was some gnash and some other options18:28
glitsj16Besogon: thanks .. floating: there are some known performance issues on jaunty with Intel graphics cards, take a look at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904#Performance%20regressions%20on%20Intel%20graphics%20cards for some things you can try to improve things18:28
floatingi sdaw18:28
floatingglitsj16: so if i want to edit those things to the device section in xorg.conf, do i just add a lonely device section to my empty xorg.conf file ?18:31
glitsj16floating: yes that should be picked up by X correct18:33
floatingi read some people wondering why some other have empty xorg.conf, and they suggest running sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg18:36
floatinghmm, maybe i could try that too ?18:36
glitsj16floating: worth a try i guess yes18:38
floatingtrying to revert with this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4 , but i dont get the instructions on the launchpad page on how to add GPG key :(19:09
floatingthere are info on validating own keys and adding keys. or about adding there is a link to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto19:13
floatingbut that page starts to talk about "generating pgp key"19:14
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ron_ohey guys. When I d/l a youtube video I can retrive it from my /tmp directory. But sometimes on other sites I can't find the .flv file anywhere on my computer.19:19
ron_oany ideas where it could be?19:19
ron_ofor Opera, I've checked the temporary download file.19:20
ron_oand the cache file..19:21
ron_ohmm.19:21
glitsj16floating: go to https://launchpad.net/~siretart/+archive/ppa and follow the instructions on the link provided there to add that repository's GPG key19:24
artistxehope that ppl are alive today :)19:28
artistxejust updated to 9.04 and I am curious. is there a way to utilize xfce 4.6 without an upgrade. ?19:29
ron_othat reminds me. I've got to upgrade to 8.04. :)19:30
artistxeI may end up reverting due to lack of support for my (ahem) ati card.19:30
ron_oreverting?19:30
ron_ohow so?19:30
ron_ojust reinstall?19:30
artistxeyes. just do a complete reinstall]19:30
ron_othe thing is I just read an article that reminded of a way to keep everything no matter what, as long as your data is separate from your OS.19:31
artistxeI do.19:31
ron_ojust copy all your data files from /home19:31
artistxeI keep everything in my home dir19:31
artistxedata that I work with that is19:31
ron_oand copy all the files from synaptic cache, and wallah.19:31
ron_oreinstall and you got it.19:32
ron_ohehe. easy.19:32
Slonkie"wallah" ??19:32
artistxebut I want to do it clean. I upgraded and kept my user profiles and such.19:32
ron_oeventually I'll get all my /home on a separate hard drive.19:32
artistxebut everything is crosswired.19:32
ron_oSlonkie, wha?19:32
Slonkienvm lol19:32
artistxeI experimented too much with packages and dependencies19:32
artistxeSlonkie : "wallah" is a valid computer term. unlike the French "Viola"19:33
artistxeVoila rather. A Viola is a stringed instrument19:34
Slonkieyeah19:34
artistxe____ a closed mouth gathers no feet19:34
ron_oanyways, I think I'll try an upgrade today... 8.04 should be pretty safe. :)19:34
ron_ohehe: feet.19:35
ron_ofeat?19:35
artistxeuh. 8.10 is too scary for you ?19:35
floatingglitsj16: seems like none of the methods http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904#Performance%20regressions%20on%20Intel%20graphics%20cards helped.. too bad :/ maytbe i just try the gnash and if it doesnt help, i will have to go use windows19:36
ron_omaybe it's 8.10. Don't know. It depends on what the upgrader allows me to go to.19:36
glitsj16floating: too bad indeed, why not fall back to xubuntu 8.10 for a few weeks untill the Intel graphics issue gets solved in 9.04 ? Goodluck :)19:37
ron_oit's 8.10.. yah.19:37
artistxeron_o : the update manager may point you towards 9.0419:37
ron_ono, it doesn't. I just checked.19:37
artistxe8.10 . that's it ?19:38
ron_oyah..19:38
ron_oI like being behind anyways.19:38
ron_oI don't do much, but right now I'd like it if I could get sound to my TV through my HDMI cable.19:38
artistxeif it works then don't change it maybe19:38
ron_othat's really the only reason why I need to upgrade as it is.19:38
artistxeron_o, it is not your only OS. is it ?19:39
ron_owhat?19:39
* artistxe recommends everyone has a version of Puppy somewhere :)19:39
ron_oahh, yes. I do.19:39
ron_oI have many live CDs.19:40
artistxeron_o, is it your only operating system installed ?19:40
artistxexubuntu ?19:40
ron_oinstalled, yes... but not liveCDs.19:40
ron_oI have other computers around if need be, if things go way too awry.19:40
artistxeoh. well maybe you will have to rely on one of those cds one day to do a recovery19:40
ron_oexactly. I've used them before.19:41
artistxeanyway. I am off for a bit. nice chatting with you19:41
ron_owell for recovery knoppix is all anyone would ever need.19:41
ron_ocya.19:41
gorguthey folks. I'm trying to get my volume/mute keys to work on my Dell Latitude D600 laptop. I just did a fresh install of Jaunty. showkey sees the keypresses and apparently they're mapped to "XF86AudioLowerVolume" etc but they don't actually DO anything. Any ideas?20:01
Slonkiegorgut did you try adding the shortcuts in keyboard settings?20:09
gorgutSlonkie, i went into they keyboard settings and added them as shortcuts, but I'm not sure what to put as the command.?20:09
gorgutSlonkie, i added them as shortcuts to test their mapping, rather20:10
Slonkieall right20:10
Slonkieaumix -v-10 to decrease sound20:10
Slonkieaumix -v+10 to increase sound20:11
Slonkieaumix -v0 to mute20:11
gorgutSlonkie, brilliant. Thank you very much :D20:12
Slonkieheh no problem, your only number 3 today with that problem ;)20:13
Slonkieyou're20:13
gorguthaha20:14
gorgutyou're getting good at this by now, eh20:14
Slonkie:p20:14
SiDiSlonkie, why does it work for all of them and not me ? :'(20:19
SiDibut its ok, gnome-keybinding has nice interactions with notify-osd :D my system is sexy <320:20
Slonkielol20:20
SlonkieWell that's good then20:20
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gorgutanyone recommend a good WYSIWYG html editor ?20:32
gorgut(besides seamonkey *groan*)20:32
qdrdoes anyone know a solution to this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113703620:33
qdrdeeeep silence.. :S20:38
cheryl_hello20:40
SlonkieI'm trying to install amarok 1.4.10 but it tells me i need "the x headers", anyone know how i get these?20:42
Mood9.04's new xfce removed the volume control from the panel -- how do i get it back?21:20
SlonkieRight click -> add -> mixer ?21:29
MoodSlonkie: this mixer seems like a different app from the prior version of xfce -- there was a little vertical bar that controlled volume ... what app was that called?21:30
ron_oactually, add 'volume control..21:32
ron_oI keep losing volume control on my panel all the time.21:33
ron_odon't know why.21:33
ron_ojust have to readd it all the time.21:33
ron_oactually, I do know why. Ran panel in terminal....21:33
Moodwhat is the volume control app called?21:33
ron_ovolume control..21:33
Moodwhere do you see that under "add new items"?21:34
ron_ounder volume?21:34
Moodron_o: what version of xubuntu are you running?21:35
ron_o8.0421:35
Moodthere is no 8.0421:35
Mood8.10 or 9.0421:35
Slonkie8.04 was the version before 8.1021:35
Moodhmm.... Slonkie- do you have volume?21:35
Moodunder add new items?21:36
SlonkieNo, i'm using Mixer21:36
Moodi don't think 9.04 has volume controls separately from mixer21:36
Mood:-(21:36
Slonkiei basicly only use it to see how much volume is on, to turn it up/down i use media buttons on my laptop21:36
basajaunhi all21:36
Slonkie!hi | basajaun21:36
ubottubasajaun: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!21:36
basajaundrive permissions erratic in 9.04 but what a nice job of a version!!!21:38
ron_oMood, that sucks.21:38
ron_ohow about using some gnome panel app..21:38
Moodron_o: yeah. ah well :-s maybe i should downgrade to 8.04 like you did21:39
ron_oor maybe you can download it separarely.. check.21:39
ron_oI never upgraded.21:39
basajaun8.10 was easy all drive were immediately usable this is a nightmare21:39
ron_odo a synaptic search for it.21:39
ron_oI'm sure it's there.21:39
Moodron_o: good idea21:39
ron_oit would be stupid not to be.21:40
ron_oplus there's some app that you can run all gnome applets on a xubuntu panel. So, you'll find something.21:40
ron_ogood to know. No way would I upgrade if that were the case.21:40
ron_oI use that function more than anything else me thinks.21:41
Moodron_o: yeah me too when playing audacious. sh!ite21:42
acb3hello?21:43
acb3I have lost my menu editor upgrading from 8.10 to 9.0421:43
ron_oa good a buy.. :)21:43
ron_oj/k.21:44
acb3can anyone tell me how to get it, or what file to edit by hand?21:44
ron_oacb3, I can't. I'm still on 8.04.. it's just one reason why I stay way behind the times.21:44
acb3because right at the moment I have an enormously overstuffed desktop menu21:44
acb3ron_o: it works in 8.10 :-)21:45
ron_oyah, like 6 months ago. :)21:45
ron_oof course it did.21:45
ron_oI bet you lost your menu editor file in the upgrade.21:46
acb3yup. But what _should_ it be called?21:46
acb3surely I can find it and re-edit it ... my flash plugin seems also to have gone, though it is marked as installed21:47
Slonkieanyone in here using Jaunty and Amarok 2.0.2?21:49
Moodron_o: is your volume control part of mixer? or does it look like a different app entirely?21:50
ron_odifferent app.21:51
ron_oit says: "Volume Control".21:51
Moodron_o: faak. ok. thanks ron_o21:52
ron_ohttp://xubuntu.wordpress.com/tag/volume/21:53
ron_opart of your solution.21:53
ron_ofaak?21:53
Moodfaak = faakkk!! :-)21:54
ron_obbiab21:56
Ultraputzi've hit a snag -- basically, in the jaunty upgrade, it failed to update the uuid that cryptroot is assigned, and so the machine fails to boot and drops to busybox in initramfs.22:02
SiDiUltraputz, you can still fix it22:02
SiDiits really boring but you can22:02
Ultraputzi hope so :-)22:02
SiDii ended up in the same situation, without livecd/liveusb/other pc22:02
Ultraputzme too22:03
SiDiwhen you're  in the initramfs console22:03
Ultraputzmy optical disc is broken22:03
SiDitype mkdir potatoe22:03
Ultraputzso if you know the dharma, lay it on me.22:03
SiDithen mount /dev/sda1 potatoe (assuming your system is in sda1)22:03
SiDithen cd potatoe/boot/grub22:03
SiDithen it's gonna be tricky22:03
SiDiyou'll cat menu.lst22:03
SiDiand use echo "blabla" >> menu.lst to copy each line of one boot entry LINE BY LINE22:03
Ultraputzok...22:04
SiDiand you'll change the root=UUID=blable in root=/dev/sda122:04
Ultraputzslow down22:04
SiDithen you'll have the option at next boot, and it'll work22:04
basajaunbye all22:04
Ultraputzboth machines have bad keyboards, and mount is not working22:04
SiDigo there, i'll tell you the commands accurately :)22:04
SiDimount should work22:04
SiDijust type it till it works :P22:04
SiDiand try with -t ext3, too22:04
SiDior ext4 if you use ext422:05
Ultraputz"mount: mounting /dev/sda1 on potatoe failed: invalid argument"22:05
knomelol22:06
Ultraputzit's an encrypted disk...22:06
* knome broke the left armrest of his working chair22:06
Ultraputzthere we go22:06
Ultraputzi did mount /dev/disk/by-uuid/*22:06
Ultraputz(only one entry)22:06
UltraputzSiDi -- there's nothing available initramfs that would enable a search and replace, rather than line by line echo facility, would there be >22:07
SiDiUltraputz, i'm writing you a quick guide in a pastebin, sec22:08
SiDiUltraputz, i tried vi/vim/nano, didnt work22:08
Ultraputzi get what we're doing...22:08
Ultraputzok22:08
SiDiknome, congratz22:08
knome\o/22:08
Ultraputzfor editing, i was using echo -e "<>\n<>" > file22:08
SiDihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/158133/ Ultraputz22:09
SiDiI dont know about echo's advanced syntax22:09
SiDii did line by line22:10
SiDiand use >>, not >22:10
SiDi> erases the file :P22:10
Ultraputz\n allows a linefeed22:10
SiDiwell, it was writing an actual \n when i tried :D22:10
Ultraputzecho -e, among other things, allows \n to be recognized as a linefed, so you can enter a bunch of lines on a single line and then no append necc.22:10
SiDithats why i did it line by line22:10
SiDithanks for the tip :)22:10
Ultraputzthat's what echo -e fixes :-)22:10
SiDiofc after you've booted with the tmp boot entry, edit your file correctly22:11
Ultraputzthis paste bin -- brilliant approach22:12
Ultraputzwell done, btw22:12
SiDithanks :)22:13
SlonkieI'm trying to compile amarok, but i'm getting this error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.22:13
SlonkieSo, check this please and use another prefix!"22:13
SlonkieWould anyone be able to help me with it?22:14
SiDierr22:15
Ultraputzsidi -- however, i have realized this will not fix my problem22:15
SiDiUltraputz, why so ?22:15
Ultraputzbecause the problem is IN initrd.img22:15
SiDioh, its not the boot entry ?22:15
Ultraputzno22:15
SiDiyou compiled your kernel with the disk UUID ? Oo22:15
Ultraputzi did not22:15
Ultraputzupgrade did22:15
SiDican't be :O22:15
SiDitry to boot on 2.6.27.1122:16
Ultraputzok22:16
SiDiit should still be here22:16
Ultraputzin conf/conf.d/cryptroot22:16
Ultraputzit specifies the old uuid for the disk, pre-upgrade.22:16
Ultraputzit changed it22:16
Ultraputzso whenever i restart, it fails, because it cannot find the old uuid22:16
* SiDi really doesn't know about crypted partitions though !22:16
Ultraputzthat's the problem22:16
SiDithat's the problem of UUIDs for partitions...22:16
Ultraputzwhat i need to know is how to actually specify the correct one to boot to to go back and fix the problem init initrd.22:16
SiDithere actually are less chances that your /dev change than your UUIDs22:17
Ultraputzi don't understand a) why it changed the uuid, and b) if so, how that was missed in testing.22:17
SiDitry to boot with your old 2.6.27.11 kernel22:17
Ultraputzi tried everything on the menu22:17
SiDibuild a menu entry without UUID, with 2.6.27.11. Did you do this ?22:17
J_Litews1iok, problem22:17
Ultraputz... grub is fine22:17
Ultraputzit can boot the machine22:17
Ultraputzbut it can't get past LUKS22:18
Ultraputzbecause it can't find the disk to decrypt22:18
J_Litews1ii screwed up, and now everytime i double click on a mousepad file, it runs sudo22:18
Ultraputzit's being given the wrong information by something set in the ram image22:18
J_Litews1ihow do i fix it?22:18
Ultraputzright click the file and change the association22:18
Ultraputzright click, open with22:19
J_Litews1isince it freezes the X Server, and I can't kill the sudo process22:19
Ultraputzand change the app22:19
J_Litews1iah, ok22:19
Ultraputzcool litewsli ?22:19
SiDiUltraputz, then there's nothing i can do for you :/22:19
J_Litews1inow, without killing X, how can i kill the sudo process?22:19
Ultraputzreboot :-)22:20
Ultraputzoh22:20
Ultraputzkill -922:20
Ultraputzps aux | grep sudo22:20
Ultraputzfind the proc id and kill -9 <id>22:20
J_Litews1iok22:20
Ultraputzkill -9 is a bad habit, btw :-)22:20
UltraputzSidi -- thanks anyway -- your pastebin should be posted at ubuntuforums22:21
Ultraputzthat could be very useful for the person with the right problem22:21
J_Litews1ithankyou Ultraputz22:22
SiDiUltraputz, i'll consider this if i don't forget ^^22:22
* Ultraputz brings a chicken to the altar to sacrifice and summon TheSheep.22:22
knomeo.O22:23
Ultraputzbbl22:26
SiDibb Ultraputz22:29
SiDiBtw, knome's chair is a good chicken candidate, for its offensive armrest breakage !22:30
knomehehe22:31
knomesure22:31
ron_oegads..22:45
ron_oman.22:45
ron_oI screwed up when I made my boot partition. I made it only 100MB and now I dumb run out of space to upgrade.22:45
ron_ocan I just delete everything except the kernal I am using and then upgrade?22:45
cherylHello?22:49
knome!hi | cheryl22:49
ubottucheryl: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!22:49
ron_oaye22:49
cherylThanks, glad to be here. Anybody out there know how to get an i740 intel graphic card working correctly?22:50
cherylI am running on the latest .iso.22:51
ron_owell, I'd check to see if it runs in knoppix or some other liveCD to track down what might be wrong.22:53
ron_oyou can use commands to see if your computer even recognizes the card to begin with.22:53
ron_oand beyond that, you're probably going to have to find the correct driver for it to work.22:53
cherylWhat is the command to sse.22:53
cheryl*see22:53
ron_othere's quite a few..... in root:   $lspci   or ... $dmidecode22:54
ron_ois the card ati?22:54
cherylno, it is an intel i740 agp card22:55
ron_oI don't know much about graphics cards, but there are some that are more supported than others.22:55
cherylI have been fighting it all day. From what I have read, there is a driver included in the image, but it does recognize the card on install.22:56
ron_owhat's the cards name again?22:57
ron_ocheryl, ?22:58
cherylIt is an intel i740. dmidecode says it is unknown.23:00
cherylSorry I was searching the output from dmidecode.23:00
cherylHandle 0x0012, DMI type 9, 13 bytes23:01
cherylSystem Slot Information23:01
cherylDesignation: AGP123:01
cherylType: 32-bit AGP23:01
cherylCurrent Usage: Unknown23:01
cherylLength: Long23:01
cherylID: 823:01
cherylCharacteristics:23:01
cheryl3.3 V is provided23:01
knome!pastebin | cheryl23:01
ubottucheryl: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)23:01
cherylPME signal is supported23:01
ron_oyah, use pastebin.23:01
ron_oI see. It's not ati.. it's intel.. yuck.23:01
ron_oit may not be supported on linux.23:01
ron_ono doubt its driver support is proprietary, patented and secret to the linux world.23:02
cherylk, it has been pastebinned. LOL23:03
cherylintel created the chipset23:03
ron_oyou need to show the URL.23:04
ron_oanyways, there's an xorg driver out there for your card: http://packages.ubuntu.com/it/hardy/xserver-xorg-video-i74023:04
cherylhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/158154/23:04
ron_oin synaptic package manager, search for intel i74023:05
ron_osee if it's installed.23:05
cherylI think I already did, but I will check again to make sure.23:06
cherylit found it says it is installed. Do I uninstall and reinstall?23:09
cherylOr mark for reinstall?23:09
ron_ono, your xserver ain't recognizing it.23:10
cherylHow do I make it do that?23:11
ron_oyou're going to have to reconfigure your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file23:11
ron_ohowever, I can't help you out much with that.23:11
ron_othe good news is your card is recognized, the bad news is that it's not recognized autamatically.23:12
cherylThanks for you help. I have been editing that file all day. I have a friend at work how is an ubuntu junkie, if i have to i will get his help.23:12
ron_ohere's something for you23:13
ron_ohttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+question/6006023:13
ron_oyah, get his help23:13
ron_ojust make a backup of xorg.conf file and have a liveCD handy just in case.23:14
ron_osomething like knoppix will do. But make sure it works before you go screwing around. :)23:14
ron_ohehe, just thought of this. LiveCDs are the condoms of the linux world!23:14
ron_oone difference, you use it only *after* you get into trouble. :)23:15
cherylThanks, what is a livecd, the ubuntu image?23:17
ron_owell it can be..23:17
ron_olook up knoppix and see.23:17
ron_obasically a live operating system that runs off a CD/DVD23:18
ron_ogreat for emergencies/hacking and even backup.23:18
ron_ocan anyone tell me why the upgrade process needs like 88MB in my boot partition?23:19
ron_odamn..23:19
ron_owhat a pain!23:19
cherylWell, here goes. Time for the reboot. (maniacal laughter)23:22
ron_owell, upgrading. Hope all goes well here.23:26
ron_oworking?23:27
ron_odid you make a backup of your old xorg.conf ?23:27
ron_ogetting 1100 KB/s here. Not a bad connection at all.23:28
cherylnope, I have so many backups it is pointless to do that. I have the orginal from when started this morning.23:34
cherylI just tried something else in that thread, I am not too optimistic though the last post said he still had not gotten it working.23:34
D-Lyriumhmm, my laptop refuses to boot from a USB stick.23:54
D-Lyriumany ideas as to why?23:54
D-Lyriumit's the xubuntu .iso file that's on there23:54
D-Lyriumtrying to install xubuntu23:55
ron_oD-Lyrium, I'm sure you have to do  more than just put the iso on the USB stick.23:55
D-Lyriumoh. That's all I was told to do ¬_¬23:56
ron_oI've never done it before, however. But have read websites describing the process.23:56
quickdrawI'm a bit of a newb, but i'm pretty sure there is a seperate way to run it from a USB drive.23:56
quickdrawBut i'm blanking on it atm.23:56
ron_oIf you have Windows I hear that Nero has a USB burner on there.23:56
ron_osome day I'll try it, but until I get at least a 4GB or better an 8GB USB drive, there's no use trying.23:57
ron_owow, my upgrade is now at 245KB/s. I wonder if my ISP is slowing me down.23:58
ron_omost likely.23:59

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