[00:00] 4.6.1 installed, rebooting :/ [00:01] oh btw, does anyone mind pastebining his menu.lst please ? [00:02] SiDi: why? [00:02] i'm missing some options and i can't remember [00:02] wether its splash or nosplash [00:03] and i think i'm missing quiet, too [00:03] What do you have in the defoptions line, please ? [00:03] http://pastebin.com/ff205018 [00:03] Thanks [00:14] bye all [00:16] is is possible to create a link or symlink that anyone can run but only root can delete? [00:17] yes, should be able to make it executable by other but owned by root [00:21] I've created a link owned by root, but I am able to delete is as a user. a symlink is the same. Is it possible that my usr is root? because there exists a separate root user [00:22] permissions should be owned by root, in group root, only executable by other [00:24] I think I did that chown root:root , chmod 644 , chmod +x [00:25] I just installed 9.04 and my rt2500 wifi card still connects at 1mb/s - 8.04 and 8.10 both did this, does anyone know if this going to be fixed? [00:32] Finally \o/ [00:32] * SiDi now officially uses gnome-keybinding and gnome-settings-daemon. [00:32] :P [00:32] :p [00:33] where's the official announcement notes? [00:33] I would post it to my blag, but i don't have any. [00:33] duh. [00:34] Honnestly, i'm very disappointed by this shortcut problem. It doesnt come from the migration script as even after wiping out the current shortcuts and reinstalling xfce's core packages it was still happening [00:34] mmh. [00:34] and it didnt happen at all in my jaunty rc testing distro [00:34] I really really don't understand what went wrong, but it was bad. I just hope i'll hold till karmic:P [00:35] * knome farts loudly and asks to whine to xfce developers :P [00:35] I spotted an interesting message on a debian bug tracker mailing list, related to exactly the same problem [00:35] i'm gonna check this out later [00:35] right [00:38] knome, how is the finnish translation in jaunty ? [00:38] It seems we had a lot of regressions in french :/ [00:38] i have no idea about the finnish translation. [00:39] you're using it in english ? :P [00:39] sure. [00:39] always. [00:40] http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/funny-dog-pictures-this-dog-has-two-bones.jpg [00:41] xD [00:41] I am using english as well [00:41] Thats so true [00:43] if you can use english version, there is no reason to use translated one. maybe to be helpful in translation process [for example bug reports] [01:05] hi im using xubuntu 8.10, what do i need to do, in order to make my action buttons or the quit button in the menu popup the shut down prompt? everytime i click quit, it just quits the session and im in gdm, any idea? [01:13] kora, Apps -> Xfce settings -> Session & boot -> Check the checkbox 'prompt what to do when i click the quit button' [01:13] (translation IS approximative :p) [01:15] SiDi: thanks a lot wonder how that disappeared ^^ [01:15] kora, you're welcome [02:04] what's the applet to control the volume in xfce? [02:05] i had it in my startup before the jaunty update, and it's gone again. [02:05] xfce4-mixer ? [02:06] charlie-tca, that looks like it'll control the volume... hrm i wonder if i was using a gnome app before. it integrated nicely next to the network manager. [02:06] On the panel, just right-click the panel, left-click add to panel, add "volume control" [02:07] der [02:07] thanks! [02:07] You are welcome [02:07] dunno why i never think of that. damn work keeps putting my mindset to windows! [02:08] yeah, work does tend to get in the way... [02:09] i mean we run netware and linux for pretty much all our servers, but every desktop is windows. i don't see this changing at all. especially when we finally migrate off of edirectory. [02:09] and pretty much all my support is desktop-based. rarely do i get to build or work with server. [02:12] ah well, i'm out. thanks! [02:16] has anybody installed xubuntu on a netbook, is there any major performance improvement over ubuntu [02:19] issues with latest Xubuntu 9.04. How to re/configure network??? [02:21] retour: I do it the same way I have since hardy 8.04, using network-manager-applet in the panel [03:16] if i update my system now will the update take a long time? [03:49] after upgrading to 9.04 firefox does not save any changed made to preferences or bookmarks. what do i do to allow these changes to be saved? === ubuntu_ is now known as igor === igor is now known as igor1121 [03:57] Good evening. I have a question. I just upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 on my Lenovo T60p laptop. Now when I boot up the system seems to boot fine until X.org start at which point the screen is garbled and the machine seems frozen. When this happens I cannot switch to a different virtual console and the machine does not respond to CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE. Any ideas on what to do? [03:58] BTW, I switched to using vesa driver in xorg.conf and it's still the same result. It's not a hardware issue since the livecd works fine. === freego is now known as forces [04:22] saluton [04:44] saluton [05:08] I have a bit of a problem, when trying to burn a 7.5 gig ISO to a dvd, it says it wont fit...even though I got the ISO from a DVD... [05:09] what's a program that can write it to the disc? [05:14] how big is the disc? [05:15] 4.7 [05:15] theres your problem [05:15] but the ISO came off a 4.7 gig disc... [05:15] u sure [05:15] and how did u rip it? [05:16] KB3 [05:17] u sure the original was only 4.7? [05:18] why do you think it was only 4.7gb? [05:18] Yeah, because it came off of a DVD+R that was only 4.7 to begin with [05:19] then y not copy the disc? [05:20] I don't have it anymore :( [05:20] I made a backup of it onto my HDD just in case it went away [05:20] now that it has, I can't get it back on a disc! [05:21] mount the iso and grab what u need [05:22] its a video [05:22] u can use "gmount-iso" for gui [05:23] how did you make a backup? === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [05:24] [05:24] What I did was select Copy DVD, the source was the DVD, the destination was into an ISO [05:25] I used Brasero's to do that though... [05:26] another question, any program that could take an avi video file, and burn in onto a DVD but be playable via a DVD player? [05:27] yea [05:28] DeVeDe [05:28] but i usually make svcd w/ it. it can do a dvd tho [05:29] Transcoding usually takes a while... [05:41] i added 'XTerm*termName: xterm-256color' to .Xresources and i run xrdb ~/.Xresources . i open new xterm and type 'tputs colors' and get 8. any ideas how to set 256 colors on xterm? [06:37] when i click on upgrade, update manager goes to sleep [06:38] nevermind [07:27] how to add new fonts to ~/.Xresoures? after adding them to ~/.fonts ? (btw, i can't see them in xfontsel) [08:56] gee its quiet here - Just wanted to say 9.04 rocks - thanks guys for a fantastic release. :) [09:20] why is the new amarok so damn slow anyone know [09:22] Might wanna ask the guys behind amarok, Sinister ? #amarok i think their in [09:24] yes, #amarok [09:33] id love to meet the idiot that puts sounds on everything open something bing close it bong [09:52] how do i go to a differnt version older verizon of amarok? [09:54] what version [09:54] what evers before this 2. [09:54] i hate it [09:55] what about it? [09:56] i remember back in intreped i just installed the package "amarok" (Which was 1.4) but now that package is 2.x i believe [09:57] http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Download:Debian [10:01] Anyone have any idea how to add an network printer in xubuntu? [11:16] hello, all, quick question: How can upgrade to 9.04 from 8.04? except burning cd and reinstall. [11:18] did you try to run the update-manager ? [11:18] I think it'll tell you that an update is available! [11:21] Slonkie, yes, I want this way, but it does not tell me any new infomation [11:21] sec then [11:21] I turned something off before? [11:22] no idea [11:22] :) 3x [11:22] i can't seem to navigate on the xubuntu website [11:22] i know it's in the docs because i translated it once, but i can't find the damn docs anywhere lol [11:23] neither by google? [11:23] search the title? [11:24] ehm [11:24] well i found it now [11:24] but it should tell you in the top of the update-manager that an upgrade is available [11:24] or not.. [11:25] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades see this link, solotim! [11:25] yes, it should, I have upgraded last year. [11:25] Sorry for all this confusing talk, i'm new at using xubuntu [11:25] maybe it's due to my 8.04 , not 8.10 [11:25] oh! you'll have to upgrade to 8.10 and then 9.04 [11:25] no, not confusing, :) [11:26] you can't do 8.04 -> 9.04 [11:26] yes, I think so, but now, I can't see "8.04->8.09" button now [11:26] 8.10 [11:26] sorry [11:27] try typing update-manger -d in terminal [11:27] wow, let me try [11:28] :D thank you !!!! Slonkie! [11:28] you are right, :) [11:28] Great :) no [11:28] np* [11:40] Any ideas for making Xubuntu boot faster? [11:45] I wonder, how do i make something keep it's place on the desktop? things like thunar etc? [11:46] hello [11:47] is OpenOffice included in Xubuntu [11:47] can someone help me please [11:48] I don't think so [11:48] It wasen't in 8.10 atleast [11:49] Slonkie: are u using Xubuntu [11:49] Yes i am [11:50] which version [11:50] 9.04 [11:50] how is this and how fast is it [11:50] i m planning to install [11:50] I like it [11:51] I don't know how fast it is.. how can one explain? [11:51] I think it's fast, but you might think something else. :) [11:51] my system configuraton is p4 - 2.4 Ghz, 256 MB, 40 GB hard disk [11:51] will it work fine or increase ram [11:51] I'd say it'll work fine [11:52] how much difference is between Ubuntu and Xubuntu [11:53] xfce is more lightweight than gnome [11:53] speciallly in Networking with other Windows XP pcs [11:53] yea I heard about it [11:53] I must say so far i haven't been able to connect to my windows share [11:53] I might be doing something wrong tho [11:54] but Ubuntu does it in default config [11:54] all right [11:55] because my hardware configuration is so old that I should switch to Xubuntu [11:55] ok I will give a try and get back to this IRC again [11:55] thanks [11:55] and bye [11:55] GOod luck ;) [11:55] Thanks [12:15] Anyone have any idea how to add an network printer in xubuntu? [12:27] hi, Slonkie, you can't access winXP box in you local network? [12:27] No so far i haven't been able to connect to my windows share [12:27] wait a miniute, I share you something [12:27] Cool [12:29] mount.cifs //192.168.0.102/'c$' /media/Bing_C -o username=XXX,password=XXX,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0775,dir_mode=0775 [12:29] as long as you can ping the winxp pc, you can mount its partition onto your xubuntu [12:31] so.. what's 'c$' ? [12:31] the foldername? [12:32] no, you windows C:\ [12:32] I diden't share whole C:\ [12:33] oh, then you can subsitute the 'c$' to the shared folder name [12:33] and i ain't got no password on my xp either [12:33] Should i just leave XXX ? [12:33] no, no [12:33] it's should be the username/pwd of you windows login [12:33] I don't have it password protected. [12:33] wow [12:34] it's unsafe anyway [12:34] try to use password. [12:34] It's not unsafe in local network lol [12:34] or you can use "administrator" t [12:35] maybe use your normal username, and leave the password blank [12:35] I am not something on this issue, but the command I offered works for me, and I create a script upon it. [12:49] doesn't work for me [12:50] Anyone have any idea how to add an network printer in xubuntu? [13:21] Hello [13:21] How can I mount hard drive on xubuntu? [13:25] what filesystem is that harddrive? [13:27] Hi all [13:30] Hello Ruadh ! [13:31] ntfs [13:31] but with ubuntu there were noproblem [13:31] !ntfs3g | fantomedurezo [13:31] !ntfs3h [13:31] !ntfs3g [13:32] bot away [13:32] but I can't find the short-cut to sda [13:32] There is no shortcut, you'll have to mount your NTFS drives [13:32] and when I print sudo mount sda, [13:32] hello [13:33] fstab say there isn't sda hard drive [13:34] On nautilus of ubuntu, I had to click on hard drive to mount it [13:34] but on nautilus of xubuntu, where are the hard drive??? [13:35] I only see systm of file and the cd of xubuntu 8.10 [14:15] just installed xubuntu yesterday, kinda find it loading the cpu alot. im running a mp3 playlist with shorter than 1 minute tracks, and have a firefox window and a gnome-system-monitor mainly running. the processor is at 60-90% constantly, and my fans are keeping more noise than i have ever heard on windows xp [14:19] why is cpu loading the processor when i dont have really anything happening in them [14:20] i mean firefox [14:22] ok, having ff tabs with some javascript loads it, but still closing those this is more demanding [14:22] +fancy [14:23] floating: type 'top' in a terminal and see what is taking up the cpu usage [14:25] the gnome-system-manager shows these too, (except for xorg which takes around 10-15%) [14:28] im looking for a system monitor tool that also shows some temperatures [14:31] hello, xubuntu noob here [15:04] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/gdm-guest-login how to add tihs to wishlist for xubuntu also? [15:07] :) [15:13] In 9.04 network applet has issues. My net is working as configured during alternate install process but net applet in XFCE is not recognizing ANY network cards - everything is empty [15:14] and there are no other icons apps allowing me to access NET configuration [15:21] are you connecting wirelessly or via ethernet? [15:22] mogul218_, single ethernet card only [15:23] This is big one --> In xubuntu there is no guest account logging button.. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/gdm-guest-login how to add tihs to wishlist for xubuntu also? [15:27] retour go to system->administration->hardware drivers and make sure you don't need to activate a non propietary driver [15:28] mogul218_, Thank You! [15:29] Hello [15:29] retour no problem glad i could help [15:30] I am a noob, can someone help me get an awe32 working? [15:31] Thanks anyway [15:31] mogul218_, hmmm not that easy - the only one I see there is already active NVidia driver - nothing about my old Intel net card [15:32] cheryl, AWE32 PCI or ISA? [15:32] I think it is PCI [15:32] let me look, thanks for the help [15:33] cheryl - what CPU? [15:33] retour is your ethernet on board or on a card? [15:33] intel deshutes, PCI [15:36] mogul218_, PCI card, network works fines - using it right now - only this net applet is totally blind [15:37] cheryl, whats your problem? is your AWE visible in the system hardware? [15:38] no, gstreamer says no sound hardware available [15:38] retour i'm going to switch to xfce desktop to see if i can see what you are talking about....are you referring to the default xubuntu network applet? [15:40] mogul218_, Yes! the one on the top taskbar - top right corner [15:41] and nothing else under Xubuntu default installed apps to access net config. And I've forgot all the commands from ifconfig if remember well [15:41] retour- Is there a GUI way to install hardware or do I have use terminal? [15:45] cheryl, do you see your audio card after "alsamixer" in the terminal? [15:46] do I just type that in terminal? [15:46] yes [15:46] ok [15:46] alsamixer + enter [15:47] alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory [15:48] that is what came back in terminal [15:49] hmm not good. I hope someone can help you. You have hardware problem. I use SB Live and in past 10 years of using linux never had audio hardware detection issues. Are you sure it is not on shared IRQ? [15:50] Don't know how to tell that in ubuntu. The motherboard is plug and play compatible. I am scrounging parts an OS for poor friend. [15:53] how do i know if the xubuntu install has installed good drivers for my integrated graphics card ? [15:53] cheryl you can check it during boot when BIOS is listing all the data. Press Pause/Break to stop it and see if you have 2 devices using same IRQ [15:53] Thanks for the help, I will check that. [15:54] floating, if it works its good enoug BUT if you are a gamer and going for max performance you may like to install proprietary driver [15:54] Anyone have any idea how to add an network printer in xubuntu? [15:56] Slonkie, what type of a printer? Connected via USB to other PC in the LAN? [15:57] it doesnt work very well. watching youtube videos loads the processor a lot, and the image is a like a dia show [15:57] floating, what card? ATI NVidia? [15:57] retour, it's connected to a "printer-server" from linksys [15:57] not a PC [15:58] Slonkie, so I think it has own IP address in the net? [15:58] Yea [15:59] Slonkie, well so I think just set it up properly in CUPS [15:59] i have no idea how to setup anything i cups [15:59] Is there a gui for this? [16:01] Slonkie, Sure in Xubuntu go to /Applications/System/Printing and when Printing App opens click on Add new printer and select proper boxes - depending what type of net print protocol your linksys is using [16:02] retour: it is this dell computer, but i cant find the info from here http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/opgx260/en/ug/index.htm [16:04] hmm thanks retour !! do you have any idea how i can search my lan for internal IPs? [16:04] floating, I'm afraid that you computer has an onboard glraphic chip instead of independent full video card - but let me check your link [16:05] Slonkie, I would rather manually configure your linksys device and than input this value to the CUPS print server [16:06] it is configured allready [16:06] And i can't manually configure it. [16:07] yeah its onboard. on windows xp, i can install graphics drivers for the motherboard, which for example makes the youtube videos run smoothly. now on xubuntu, the videos are a dia show, just as they were on win xp prior the installation of those motherboards graphics drivers [16:08] Can one stop an downloading of a package? [16:10] floating, Your video is just a part of the chipset Intel 845G - Research data about this chipset - graphic part but If I remember well it was designed for cheap office puters so dont expect too much. But research I may be wrong. In case I'm not you can always buy for few bucks old AGP graphics card [16:11] Slonkie, If it's configure already read it's config or manual etc until than it;s just a black box for you [16:11] Lol [16:12] Will be scanning my network in windows then. [16:12] sure [16:12] Slonkie, what type/model I want to check on it [16:12] I don't know [16:12] It's at my school i'm not in charge of it [16:12] oki, ill check abit later:) [16:13] floating, I would Google "Intel845G Xubuntu drivers/problems" [16:13] Slonkie, HAXOR hehehe [16:14] okthx, i get back to it after finland has beaten norway in hockey [16:15] floating, haha OK don drink too much to celebrate it [16:17] retour- I got it working, had to add the user in terminal, Apparantly that is necessary with latest version. [16:18] Thanks so much for you help. [16:18] cheryl, wait [16:19] ok? [16:19] How adding a user helps detecting audio hardware? Your old user didn't have enough privilidges??? [16:19] Hang on I will find the command again. [16:21] "sudo adduser x audio" then rebooted [16:22] got info at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCardsCreativeLabs [16:24] Now if I can just get my intel i740 graphics card to go to high def mode. [16:24] I replace x with the account name i am using. [16:28] cheryl, Ahh OK so your user was not allowed to use it - whacky! Google for it but don't expect stellar performance for in chipset graphic module. [16:30] Do you know how I can increase the resolution on my i740 graphic card? [16:32] The user issue is probably because I am auto logging the account in. [16:34] cheryl, you need to have latest available drivers for it to get max. Are you in XFCE now? [16:35] LOL, I think so. [16:37] I downloaded the xbuntu iso last nite. This computer was loaded from it. I would think that the driver would be there. [16:39] cheryl, so how about using XFCE graphics settings? [16:40] hello ... i upgraded the xubuntu 8.10 to xubuntu 9 jaunty ... i have a keyboard that has some multimedia keys ..... the problem is that since i upgraded xubuntu the two buttons for incresing decreasing volume of system, do not work anymore... they do not respond.. does anyone know why ??? any solutions ??? [16:40] Applications/settings/Display? No go? [16:42] 800x600 is as high as it will go @ 60 [16:43] cheryl, OK so you have to manually edit X11 config [16:44] /etc/X11 if I still remember it well [16:44] How do I do that? LOL [16:44] Is that the command? [16:44] it's a bit tricky since I don't know if your chipset requires linemode or not [16:45] cheryl, it's a file with detailed description for all the parameters for your video card [16:45] you have to google for it. Make backup of your original config file in case something goes wrong and after reboot you will only have console mode [16:46] YOU CANT SEE ME [16:46] google for /etc/x11? [16:47] cheryl, I use MC to navigate to folders and than edit file (F4) [16:47] cheryl, Google for "i740 chipset X11 / config etc" [16:48] cheryl, the file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf [16:49] ok be back later - have luck [16:49] ok, ok, thanks [17:00] hello ... i upgraded the xubuntu 8.10 to xubuntu 9 jaunty ... i have a keyboard that has some multimedia keys ..... the problem is that since i upgraded xubuntu the two buttons for incresing decreasing volume of system, do not work anymore... they do not respond.. does anyone know why ??? any solutions ??? [17:10] hello ... i upgraded the xubuntu 8.10 to xubuntu 9 jaunty ... i have a keyboard that has some multimedia keys ..... the problem is that since i upgraded xubuntu the two buttons for incresing decreasing volume of system, do not work anymore... they do not respond.. does anyone know why ??? any solutions ??? [17:23] lakis1982 do you see them as shortcuts in keyboard settings? [17:23] no [17:23] lakis1982, i have exactly the same problem [17:24] and couldnt solve it [17:24] i ended up using gnome-keybindings instead of xfce's shortcuts [17:24] i am in settings > keyoboard >application shortcuts [17:24] okay lakis1982 [17:24] do u have xubuntu jaunty? [17:24] lets try making them then [17:24] Slonkie, can you please pastebin your .config/xfce4/xfconf/blabla/xfce4-keyboardblabla file please ? [17:25] ok slonkie [17:25] aumix -v-10 for your button that decreases volume [17:26] blabla? :P [17:26] slonkie u mean to put the command aumix -v-10 ?? [17:26] Yes lakis1982 :) [17:26] Slonkie, :) [17:27] cool man [17:27] it works [17:27] .config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts.xml <- please pastebin it, i wanna compare with mine [17:27] and for the increse aumix -v+10 ? [17:27] then add aumix +v-10 increase [17:28] ok [17:28] do u know where these ccommands are placed? [17:28] placed? [17:28] sec SiDi ! [17:28] Thanks Slonkie [17:28] http://pastebin.com/m645bfb0 [17:28] whre are they as commands ? in usr/bin folder ??? [17:29] Oh, i have no idea sorry [17:29] the correct commands is aumix -v+10 [17:30] yes sorry [17:30] thanks [17:31] thanks [17:36] Hello [17:36] Anyone? [17:53] hmm, how can i see what video driver im using ? my /etc/X11/xorg.conf seem to be empty o.O [17:56] What number have you got operational system? (8.10 or 9.04 or something else?) [17:58] jaunty jackalope 9.04 [18:02] I hear many options you can find in reestr. (May be them put it in reestr in xubuntu, I dont know) [18:02] Like in Windows. [18:03] reestr? [18:05] It in my language. I try to explain [18:05] In windows you type REGEDIT for open it [18:06] oh, there was a "hardware drivers" in the xfce menu. although when i open it, it doesnt find any drivers [18:07] Then you use OPEN DRIVER [18:08] What have you got graphics card? (nvidia, ati, intel) [18:08] i would like to try some other driver for my Intel 845G onboard graphic card. when i google something, i get some old info on xorg.conf, but xorg.conf is empty [18:10] when i typed: sudo lshw -c display, i get : description: VGA compatible controller [18:10] Hello [18:10] product: 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device [18:10] and some more info0 [18:11] Im trying to do a clean install over my xubuntu 8.04 of Ubuntu 9.04 [18:11] when I try to install it fails to launch the GUI and goes into terminal [18:11] I know the CD works because I used it just before on another computer [18:12] i?s there a way to install 9.04 from the command line [18:12] floating: "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep driver" might produce some more info on the X driver presently in use [18:13] floating, xorg.conf work like in old version UBUNTU, you can use old "how to". [18:13] none of the intrepid sources are resolving... [18:13] anything going on? [18:13] uh [18:13]