[00:00] <SiDi> 4.6.1 installed, rebooting :/
[00:01] <SiDi> oh btw, does anyone mind pastebining his menu.lst please ?
[00:02] <zoredache> SiDi: why?
[00:02] <SiDi> i'm missing some options and i can't remember
[00:02] <SiDi> wether its splash or nosplash
[00:03] <SiDi> and i think i'm missing quiet, too
[00:03] <SiDi> What do you have in the defoptions line, please ?
[00:03] <zoredache> http://pastebin.com/ff205018
[00:03] <SiDi> Thanks
[00:14] <basajaun> bye all
[00:16] <zerothis> is is possible to create a link or symlink that anyone can run but only root can delete?
[00:17] <charlie-tca> yes, should be able to make it executable by other but owned by root
[00:21] <zerothis> I've created a link owned by root, but I am able to delete is as a user. a symlink is the same. Is it possible that my usr is root? because there exists a separate root user
[00:22] <charlie-tca> permissions should be owned by root, in group root, only executable by other
[00:24] <zerothis> I think I did that chown root:root  , chmod 644 , chmod +x
[00:25] <Feisar> I just installed 9.04 and my rt2500 wifi card still connects at 1mb/s - 8.04 and 8.10 both did this, does anyone know if this going to be fixed?
[00:32] <SiDi> Finally \o/
[00:32]  * SiDi now officially uses gnome-keybinding and gnome-settings-daemon.
[00:32] <knome> :P
[00:32] <SiDi> :p
[00:33] <knome> where's the official announcement notes?
[00:33] <SiDi> I would post it to my blag, but i don't have any.
[00:33] <knome> duh.
[00:34] <SiDi> Honnestly, i'm very disappointed by this shortcut problem. It doesnt come from the migration script as even after wiping out the current shortcuts and reinstalling xfce's core packages it was still happening
[00:34] <knome> mmh.
[00:34] <SiDi> and it didnt happen at all in my jaunty rc testing distro
[00:34] <SiDi> I really really don't understand what went wrong, but it was bad. I just hope i'll hold till karmic:P
[00:35]  * knome farts loudly and asks to whine to xfce developers :P
[00:35] <SiDi> I spotted an interesting message on a debian bug tracker mailing list, related to exactly the same problem
[00:35] <SiDi> i'm gonna check this out later
[00:35] <knome> right
[00:38] <SiDi> knome, how is the finnish translation in jaunty ?
[00:38] <SiDi> It seems we had a lot of regressions in french :/
[00:38] <knome> i have no idea about the finnish translation.
[00:39] <SiDi> you're using it in english ? :P
[00:39] <knome> sure.
[00:39] <knome> always.
[00:40] <knome> http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/funny-dog-pictures-this-dog-has-two-bones.jpg
[00:41] <SiDi> xD
[00:41] <BSE> I am using english as well
[00:41] <SiDi> Thats so true
[00:43] <BSE> if you can use english version, there is no reason to use translated one. maybe to be helpful in translation process [for example bug reports]
[01:05] <kora> hi im using xubuntu 8.10, what do i need to do, in order to make my action buttons or the quit button in the menu popup the shut down prompt? everytime i click quit, it just quits the session and im in gdm, any idea?
[01:13] <SiDi> kora, Apps -> Xfce settings -> Session & boot -> Check the checkbox 'prompt what to do when i click the quit button'
[01:13] <SiDi> (translation IS approximative :p)
[01:15] <kora> SiDi: thanks a lot wonder how that disappeared ^^
[01:15] <SiDi> kora, you're welcome
[02:04] <arrrghhh> what's the applet to control the volume in xfce?
[02:05] <arrrghhh> i had it in my startup before the jaunty update, and it's gone again.
[02:05] <charlie-tca> xfce4-mixer ?
[02:06] <arrrghhh> charlie-tca, that looks like it'll control the volume... hrm i wonder if i was using a gnome app before.  it integrated nicely next to the network manager.
[02:06] <charlie-tca> On the panel, just right-click the panel, left-click add to panel, add "volume control"
[02:07] <arrrghhh> der
[02:07] <arrrghhh> thanks!
[02:07] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[02:07] <arrrghhh> dunno why i never think of that.  damn work keeps putting my mindset to windows!
[02:08] <charlie-tca> yeah, work does tend to get in the way...
[02:09] <arrrghhh> i mean we run netware and linux for pretty much all our servers, but every desktop is windows.  i don't see this changing at all.  especially when we finally migrate off of edirectory.
[02:09] <arrrghhh> and pretty much all my support is desktop-based.  rarely do i get to build or work with server.
[02:12] <arrrghhh> ah well, i'm out.  thanks!
[02:16] <bigbrovar> has anybody installed xubuntu on a netbook, is there any major performance improvement over ubuntu
[02:19] <retour> issues with latest Xubuntu 9.04. How to re/configure network???
[02:21] <charlie-tca> retour: I do it the same way I have since hardy 8.04, using network-manager-applet in the panel
[03:16] <evilbug> if i update my system now will the update take a long time?
[03:49] <MTec007> after upgrading to 9.04 firefox does not save any changed made to preferences or bookmarks. what do i do to allow these changes to be saved?
[03:57] <igor1121> Good evening. I have a question. I just upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 on my Lenovo T60p laptop. Now when I boot up the system seems to boot fine until X.org start at which point the screen is garbled and the machine seems frozen. When this happens I cannot switch to a different virtual console and the machine does not respond to CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE. Any ideas on what to do?
[03:58] <igor1121> BTW, I switched to using vesa driver in xorg.conf and it's still the same result. It's not a hardware issue since the livecd works fine.
[04:22] <forces> saluton
[04:44] <R1cochet> saluton
[05:08] <The-Kernel> I have a bit of a problem, when trying to burn a 7.5 gig ISO to a dvd, it says it wont fit...even though I got the ISO from a DVD...
[05:09] <The-Kernel> what's a program that can write it to the disc?
[05:14] <R1cochet> how big is the disc?
[05:15] <The-Kernel> 4.7
[05:15] <R1cochet> theres your problem
[05:15] <The-Kernel> but the ISO came off a 4.7 gig disc...
[05:15] <R1cochet> u sure
[05:15] <R1cochet> and how did u rip it?
[05:16] <The-Kernel> KB3
[05:17] <R1cochet> u sure the original was only 4.7?
[05:18] <zoredache_> why do you think it was only 4.7gb?
[05:18] <The-Kernel> Yeah, because it came off of a DVD+R that was only 4.7 to begin with
[05:19] <R1cochet> then y not copy the disc?
[05:20] <The-Kernel> I don't have it anymore :(
[05:20] <The-Kernel> I made a backup of it onto my HDD just in case it went away
[05:20] <The-Kernel> now that it has, I can't get it back on a disc!
[05:21] <R1cochet> mount the iso and grab what u need
[05:22] <The-Kernel> its a video
[05:22] <R1cochet> u can use "gmount-iso" for gui
[05:23] <zoredache_> how did you make a backup?
[05:24] <zoredache>  
[05:24] <The-Kernel> What I did was select Copy DVD, the source was the DVD, the destination was into an ISO
[05:25] <The-Kernel> I used Brasero's to do that though...
[05:26] <The-Kernel> another question, any program that could take an avi video file, and burn in onto a DVD but be playable via a DVD player?
[05:27] <R1cochet> yea
[05:28] <R1cochet> DeVeDe
[05:28] <R1cochet> but i usually make svcd w/ it.  it can do a dvd tho
[05:29] <genii> Transcoding usually takes a while...
[05:41] <owen1_> i added 'XTerm*termName:  xterm-256color' to .Xresources and i run xrdb ~/.Xresources .   i open new xterm and type 'tputs colors' and get 8. any ideas how to set 256 colors on xterm?
[06:37] <R1cochet> when i  click on upgrade, update manager goes to sleep
[06:38] <R1cochet> nevermind
[07:27] <owen1_> how to add new fonts to ~/.Xresoures?  after adding them to ~/.fonts ? (btw, i can't see them in xfontsel)
[08:56] <kbmaniac> gee its quiet here - Just wanted to say 9.04 rocks - thanks guys for a fantastic release. :)
[09:20] <Sinister> why is the new amarok so damn slow anyone know
[09:22] <Slonkie> Might wanna ask the guys behind amarok, Sinister ? #amarok i think their in
[09:24] <knome> yes, #amarok
[09:33] <Sinister> id love to meet the idiot that puts sounds on everything open something bing close it bong
[09:52] <Sinister> how do i go to a differnt version older verizon of amarok?
[09:54] <R1cochet> what version
[09:54] <Sinister> what evers before this 2.
[09:54] <Sinister> i hate it
[09:55] <R1cochet> what about it?
[09:56] <Slonkie> i remember back in intreped i just installed the package "amarok" (Which was 1.4) but now that package is 2.x i believe
[09:57] <R1cochet> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Download:Debian
[10:01] <Slonkie> Anyone have any idea how to add an network printer in xubuntu?
[11:16] <solotim> hello, all, quick question: How can upgrade to 9.04 from 8.04? except burning cd and reinstall.
[11:18] <Slonkie> did you try to run the update-manager ?
[11:18] <Slonkie> I think it'll tell you that an update is available!
[11:21] <solotim> Slonkie, yes, I want this way, but it does not tell me any new infomation
[11:21] <Slonkie> sec then
[11:21] <solotim> I turned something off before?
[11:22] <Slonkie> no idea
[11:22] <solotim> :) 3x
[11:22] <Slonkie> i can't seem to navigate on the xubuntu website
[11:22] <Slonkie> i know it's in the docs because i translated it once, but i can't find the damn docs anywhere lol
[11:23] <solotim> neither by google?
[11:23] <solotim> search the title?
[11:24] <Slonkie> ehm
[11:24] <Slonkie> well i found it now
[11:24] <Slonkie> but it should tell you in the top of the update-manager that an upgrade is available
[11:24] <Slonkie> or not..
[11:25] <Slonkie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades see this link, solotim!
[11:25] <solotim> yes, it should, I have upgraded last year.
[11:25] <Slonkie> Sorry for all this confusing talk, i'm new at using xubuntu
[11:25] <solotim> maybe it's due to my 8.04 , not 8.10
[11:25] <Slonkie> oh! you'll have to upgrade to 8.10 and then 9.04
[11:25] <solotim> no, not confusing, :)
[11:26] <Slonkie> you can't do 8.04 -> 9.04
[11:26] <solotim> yes, I think so, but now, I can't see "8.04->8.09" button now
[11:26] <solotim> 8.10
[11:26] <solotim> sorry
[11:27] <Slonkie> try typing update-manger -d in terminal
[11:27] <solotim> wow, let me try
[11:28] <solotim> :D thank you !!!! Slonkie!
[11:28] <solotim> you are right, :)
[11:28] <Slonkie> Great :) no
[11:28] <Slonkie> np*
[11:40] <Photoguy> Any ideas for making Xubuntu boot faster?
[11:45] <Slonkie> I wonder, how do i make something keep it's place on the desktop? things like thunar etc?
[11:46] <nareshpunia> hello
[11:47] <nareshpunia> is OpenOffice included in Xubuntu
[11:47] <nareshpunia> can someone help me please
[11:48] <Slonkie> I don't think so
[11:48] <Slonkie> It wasen't in 8.10 atleast
[11:49] <nareshpunia> Slonkie: are u using Xubuntu
[11:49] <Slonkie> Yes i am
[11:50] <nareshpunia> which version
[11:50] <Slonkie> 9.04
[11:50] <nareshpunia> how is this and how fast is it
[11:50] <nareshpunia> i m planning to install
[11:50] <Slonkie> I like it
[11:51] <Slonkie> I don't know how fast it is.. how can one explain?
[11:51] <Slonkie> I think it's fast, but you might think something else. :)
[11:51] <nareshpunia> my system configuraton is p4 - 2.4 Ghz, 256 MB, 40 GB hard disk
[11:51] <nareshpunia> will it work fine or increase ram
[11:51] <Slonkie> I'd say it'll work fine
[11:52] <nareshpunia> how much difference is between Ubuntu and Xubuntu
[11:53] <Slonkie> xfce is more lightweight than gnome
[11:53] <nareshpunia> speciallly in Networking with other Windows XP pcs
[11:53] <nareshpunia> yea I heard about it
[11:53] <Slonkie> I must say so far i haven't been able to connect to my windows share
[11:53] <Slonkie> I might be doing something wrong tho
[11:54] <nareshpunia> but Ubuntu does it in default config
[11:54] <Slonkie> all right
[11:55] <nareshpunia> because my hardware configuration is so old that I should  switch to Xubuntu
[11:55] <nareshpunia> ok I will give a try and get back to this IRC again
[11:55] <nareshpunia> thanks
[11:55] <nareshpunia> and bye
[11:55] <Slonkie> GOod luck ;)
[11:55] <nareshpunia> Thanks
[12:15] <Slonkie> Anyone have any idea how to add an network printer in xubuntu?
[12:27] <solotim> hi, Slonkie, you can't access winXP box in you local network?
[12:27] <Slonkie> No so far i haven't been able to connect to my windows share
[12:27] <solotim> wait a miniute, I share you something
[12:27] <Slonkie> Cool
[12:29] <solotim> mount.cifs //192.168.0.102/'c$' /media/Bing_C -o username=XXX,password=XXX,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0775,dir_mode=0775
[12:29] <solotim> as long as you can ping the winxp pc, you can mount its partition onto your xubuntu
[12:31] <Slonkie> so.. what's 'c$' ?
[12:31] <Slonkie> the foldername?
[12:32] <solotim> no, you windows C:\
[12:32] <Slonkie> I diden't share whole C:\
[12:33] <solotim> oh, then you can subsitute the 'c$' to the shared folder name
[12:33] <Slonkie> and i ain't got no password on my xp either
[12:33] <Slonkie> Should i just leave XXX ?
[12:33] <solotim> no, no
[12:33] <solotim> it's should be the username/pwd of you windows login
[12:33] <Slonkie> I don't have it password protected.
[12:33] <solotim> wow
[12:34] <solotim> it's unsafe anyway
[12:34] <solotim> try to use password.
[12:34] <Slonkie> It's not unsafe in local network lol
[12:34] <solotim> or you can use "administrator" t
[12:35] <solotim> maybe use your normal username, and leave the password blank
[12:35] <solotim> I am not something on this issue, but the command I offered works for me, and I create a script upon it.
[12:49] <Slonkie> doesn't work for me
[12:50] <Slonkie> Anyone have any idea how to add an network printer in xubuntu?
[13:21] <fantomedurezo> Hello
[13:21] <fantomedurezo> How can I mount hard drive on xubuntu?
[13:25] <Slonkie> what filesystem is that harddrive?
[13:27] <Ruadh> Hi all
[13:30] <Slonkie> Hello Ruadh !
[13:31] <fantomedurezo> ntfs
[13:31] <fantomedurezo> but with ubuntu there were noproblem
[13:31] <Slonkie> !ntfs3g | fantomedurezo
[13:31] <Slonkie> !ntfs3h
[13:31] <Slonkie> !ntfs3g
[13:32] <Slonkie> bot away
[13:32] <fantomedurezo> but I can't find the short-cut to sda
[13:32] <Slonkie> There is no shortcut, you'll have to mount your NTFS drives
[13:32] <fantomedurezo> and when I print sudo mount sda,
[13:32] <Kerio> hello
[13:33] <fantomedurezo> fstab say there isn't sda hard drive
[13:34] <fantomedurezo> On nautilus of ubuntu, I had to click on hard drive to mount it
[13:34] <fantomedurezo> but on nautilus of xubuntu, where are the hard drive???
[13:35] <fantomedurezo> I only see systm of file and the cd of xubuntu 8.10
[14:15] <floating> just installed xubuntu yesterday, kinda find it loading the cpu alot. im running a mp3 playlist with shorter than 1 minute tracks, and have a firefox window and a gnome-system-monitor mainly running. the processor is at 60-90% constantly, and my fans are keeping more noise than i have ever heard on windows xp
[14:19] <floating> why is cpu loading the processor when i dont have really anything happening in them
[14:20] <floating> i mean firefox
[14:22] <floating> ok, having ff tabs with some javascript loads it, but still closing those this is more demanding
[14:22] <floating> +fancy
[14:23] <Feisar> floating: type 'top' in a terminal and see what is taking up the cpu usage
[14:25] <floating> the gnome-system-manager shows these too, (except for xorg which takes around 10-15%)
[14:28] <floating> im looking for a system monitor tool that also shows some temperatures
[14:31] <mib_b8xdrc55> hello, xubuntu noob here
[15:04] <Kangarooo> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/gdm-guest-login   how to add tihs to wishlist for xubuntu also?
[15:07] <Kangarooo> :)
[15:13] <retour> In 9.04 network applet has issues. My net is working as configured during alternate install process but net applet in XFCE is not recognizing ANY network cards - everything is empty
[15:14] <retour> and there are no other icons apps allowing me to access NET configuration
[15:21] <mogul218_> are you connecting wirelessly or via ethernet?
[15:22] <retour> mogul218_, single ethernet card only
[15:23] <Kangarooo> This is big one --> In xubuntu there is no guest account logging button.. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/gdm-guest-login   how to add tihs to wishlist for xubuntu also?
[15:27] <mogul218_> retour go to system->administration->hardware drivers and make sure you don't need to activate a non propietary driver
[15:28] <retour> mogul218_, Thank You!
[15:29] <cheryl> Hello
[15:29] <mogul218_> retour no problem glad i could help
[15:30] <cheryl> I am a noob, can someone help me get an awe32 working?
[15:31] <cheryl> Thanks anyway
[15:31] <retour> mogul218_, hmmm not that easy - the only one I see there is already active NVidia driver - nothing about my old Intel net card
[15:32] <retour> cheryl, AWE32 PCI or ISA?
[15:32] <cheryl> I think it is PCI
[15:32] <cheryl> let me look, thanks for the help
[15:33] <retour> cheryl - what CPU?
[15:33] <mogul218_> retour is your ethernet on board or on a card?
[15:33] <cheryl> intel deshutes, PCI
[15:36] <retour> mogul218_, PCI card, network works fines - using it right now - only this net applet is totally blind
[15:37] <retour> cheryl, whats your problem? is your AWE visible in the system hardware?
[15:38] <cheryl> no, gstreamer says no sound hardware available
[15:38] <mogul218_> retour i'm going to switch to xfce desktop to see if i can see what you are talking about....are you referring to the default xubuntu network applet?
[15:40] <retour> mogul218_, Yes! the one on the top taskbar - top right corner
[15:41] <retour> and nothing else under Xubuntu default installed apps to access net config. And I've forgot all the commands from ifconfig if remember well
[15:41] <cheryl> retour- Is there a GUI way to install hardware or do I have use terminal?
[15:45] <retour> cheryl, do you see your audio card after "alsamixer" in the terminal?
[15:46] <cheryl> do I just type that in terminal?
[15:46] <retour> yes
[15:46] <cheryl> ok
[15:46] <retour> alsamixer + enter
[15:47] <cheryl> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[15:48] <cheryl> that is what came back in terminal
[15:49] <retour> hmm not good. I hope someone can help you. You have hardware problem. I use SB Live and in past 10 years of using linux never had audio hardware detection issues. Are you sure it is not on shared IRQ?
[15:50] <cheryl> Don't know how to tell that in ubuntu. The motherboard is plug and play compatible. I am scrounging parts an OS for poor friend.
[15:53] <floating> how do i know if the xubuntu install has installed good drivers for my integrated graphics card ?
[15:53] <retour> cheryl you can check it during boot when BIOS is listing all the data. Press Pause/Break to stop it and see if you have 2 devices using same IRQ
[15:53] <cheryl> Thanks for the help, I will check that.
[15:54] <retour> floating, if it works its good enoug BUT if you are a gamer and going for max performance you may like to install proprietary driver
[15:54] <Slonkie> Anyone have any idea how to add an network printer in xubuntu?
[15:56] <retour> Slonkie, what type of a printer? Connected via USB to other PC in the LAN?
[15:57] <floating> it doesnt work very well. watching youtube videos loads the processor a lot, and the image is a like a dia show
[15:57] <retour> floating, what card? ATI NVidia?
[15:57] <Slonkie> retour, it's connected to a "printer-server" from linksys
[15:57] <Slonkie> not a PC
[15:58] <retour> Slonkie, so I think it has own IP address in the net?
[15:58] <Slonkie> Yea
[15:59] <retour> Slonkie, well so I think just set it up properly in CUPS
[15:59] <Slonkie> i have no idea how to setup anything i cups
[15:59] <Slonkie> Is there a gui for this?
[16:01] <retour> Slonkie, Sure in Xubuntu go to /Applications/System/Printing and when Printing App opens click on Add new printer and select proper boxes - depending what type of net print protocol your linksys is using
[16:02] <floating> retour: it is this dell computer, but i cant find the info from here http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/opgx260/en/ug/index.htm
[16:04] <Slonkie> hmm thanks retour !! do you have any idea how i can search my lan for internal IPs?
[16:04] <retour> floating, I'm afraid that you computer has an onboard glraphic chip instead of independent full video card - but let me check your link
[16:05] <retour> Slonkie, I would rather manually configure your linksys device and than input this value to the CUPS print server
[16:06] <Slonkie> it is configured allready
[16:06] <Slonkie> And i can't manually configure it.
[16:07] <floating> yeah its onboard. on windows xp, i can install graphics drivers for the motherboard, which for example makes the youtube videos run smoothly. now on xubuntu, the videos are a dia show, just as they were on win xp prior the installation of those motherboards graphics drivers
[16:08] <Slonkie> Can one stop an downloading of a package?
[16:10] <retour> floating, Your video is just a part of the chipset Intel 845G - Research data about this chipset - graphic part but If I remember well it was designed for cheap office puters so dont expect too much. But research I may be wrong. In case I'm not you can always buy for few bucks old AGP graphics card
[16:11] <retour> Slonkie, If it's configure already read it's config or manual etc until than it;s just a black box for you
[16:11] <Slonkie> Lol
[16:12] <Slonkie> Will be scanning my network in windows then.
[16:12] <retour> sure
[16:12] <retour> Slonkie, what type/model I want to check on it
[16:12] <Slonkie> I don't know
[16:12] <Slonkie> It's at my school i'm not in charge of it
[16:12] <floating> oki, ill check abit later:)
[16:13] <retour> floating, I would Google "Intel845G Xubuntu drivers/problems"
[16:13] <retour> Slonkie,  HAXOR hehehe
[16:14] <floating> okthx, i get back to it after finland has beaten norway in hockey
[16:15] <retour> floating, haha OK don drink too much to celebrate it
[16:17] <cheryl> retour- I got it working, had to add the user in terminal, Apparantly that is necessary with latest version.
[16:18] <cheryl> Thanks so much for you help.
[16:18] <retour> cheryl, wait
[16:19] <cheryl> ok?
[16:19] <retour> How adding a user helps detecting audio hardware? Your old user didn't have enough privilidges???
[16:19] <cheryl> Hang on I will find the command again.
[16:21] <cheryl> "sudo adduser x audio" then rebooted
[16:22] <cheryl> got info at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCardsCreativeLabs
[16:24] <cheryl> Now if I can just get my intel i740 graphics card to go to high def mode.
[16:24] <cheryl> I replace x with the account name i am using.
[16:28] <retour> cheryl, Ahh OK so your user was not allowed to use it - whacky! Google for it but don't expect stellar performance for in chipset graphic module.
[16:30] <cheryl> Do you know how I can increase the resolution on my i740 graphic card?
[16:32] <cheryl> The user issue is probably because I am auto logging the account in.
[16:34] <retour> cheryl, you need to have latest available drivers for it to get max. Are you in XFCE now?
[16:35] <cheryl> LOL, I think so.
[16:37] <cheryl> I downloaded the xbuntu iso last nite. This computer was loaded from it. I would think that the driver would be there.
[16:39] <retour> cheryl, so how about using XFCE graphics settings?
[16:40] <lakis1982> hello ... i upgraded the xubuntu 8.10 to xubuntu 9 jaunty ... i have a keyboard that has some multimedia keys ..... the problem is that since i upgraded xubuntu the two buttons for incresing decreasing volume of system, do not work anymore... they do not respond.. does anyone know why ??? any solutions ???
[16:40] <retour> Applications/settings/Display? No go?
[16:42] <cheryl> 800x600 is as high as it will go @ 60
[16:43] <retour> cheryl, OK so you have to manually edit X11 config
[16:44] <retour> /etc/X11 if I still remember it well
[16:44] <cheryl> How do I do that? LOL
[16:44] <cheryl> Is that the command?
[16:44] <retour> it's a bit tricky since I don't know if your chipset requires linemode or not
[16:45] <retour> cheryl, it's a file with detailed description for all the parameters for your video card
[16:45] <retour> you have to google for it. Make backup of your original config file in case something goes wrong and after reboot you will only have console mode
[16:46] <NTFS> YOU CANT SEE ME
[16:46] <cheryl> google for /etc/x11?
[16:47] <retour> cheryl, I use MC to navigate to folders and than edit file (F4)
[16:47] <retour> cheryl, Google for "i740 chipset X11 / config etc"
[16:48] <retour> cheryl, the file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:49] <retour> ok be back later - have luck
[16:49] <cheryl> ok, ok, thanks
[17:00] <lakis1982> hello ... i upgraded the xubuntu 8.10 to xubuntu 9 jaunty ... i have a keyboard that has some multimedia keys ..... the problem is that since i upgraded xubuntu the two buttons for incresing decreasing volume of system, do not work anymore... they do not respond.. does anyone know why ??? any solutions ???
[17:10] <lakis1982> hello ... i upgraded the xubuntu 8.10 to xubuntu 9 jaunty ... i have a keyboard that has some multimedia keys ..... the problem is that since i upgraded xubuntu the two buttons for incresing decreasing volume of system, do not work anymore... they do not respond.. does anyone know why ??? any solutions ???
[17:23] <Slonkie> lakis1982 do you see them as shortcuts in keyboard settings?
[17:23] <lakis1982> no
[17:23] <SiDi> lakis1982, i have exactly the same problem
[17:24] <SiDi> and couldnt solve it
[17:24] <SiDi> i ended up using gnome-keybindings instead of xfce's shortcuts
[17:24] <lakis1982> i am in settings > keyoboard >application shortcuts
[17:24] <Slonkie> okay lakis1982
[17:24] <lakis1982> do u have xubuntu jaunty?
[17:24] <Slonkie> lets try making them then
[17:24] <SiDi> Slonkie, can you please pastebin your .config/xfce4/xfconf/blabla/xfce4-keyboardblabla file please ?
[17:25] <lakis1982> ok slonkie
[17:25] <Slonkie> aumix -v-10 for your button that decreases volume
[17:26] <Slonkie> blabla? :P
[17:26] <lakis1982> slonkie u mean to put the command aumix -v-10   ??
[17:26] <Slonkie> Yes lakis1982 :)
[17:26] <SiDi> Slonkie, :)
[17:27] <lakis1982> cool man
[17:27] <lakis1982> it works
[17:27] <SiDi> .config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts.xml   <- please pastebin it, i wanna compare with mine
[17:27] <lakis1982> and for the increse aumix -v+10 ?
[17:27] <Slonkie> then add aumix +v-10 increase
[17:28] <lakis1982> ok
[17:28] <lakis1982> do u know where these ccommands are placed?
[17:28] <Slonkie> placed?
[17:28] <Slonkie> sec SiDi !
[17:28] <SiDi> Thanks Slonkie
[17:28] <Slonkie> http://pastebin.com/m645bfb0
[17:28] <lakis1982> whre are they as commands ?   in usr/bin folder ???
[17:29] <Slonkie> Oh, i have no idea sorry
[17:29] <lakis1982> the correct commands is aumix -v+10
[17:30] <Slonkie> yes sorry
[17:30] <SiDi> thanks
[17:31] <lakis1982> thanks
[17:36] <topsyandpip56> Hello
[17:36] <topsyandpip56> Anyone?
[17:53] <floating> hmm, how can i see what video driver im using ? my /etc/X11/xorg.conf seem to be empty o.O
[17:56] <Besogon> What number have you got operational system? (8.10 or 9.04 or something else?)
[17:58] <floating> jaunty jackalope 9.04
[18:02] <Besogon> I hear many options you can find in reestr. (May be them put it in reestr in xubuntu, I dont know)
[18:02] <Besogon> Like in Windows.
[18:03] <knome> reestr?
[18:05] <Besogon> It in my language. I try to explain
[18:05] <Besogon> In windows you type REGEDIT for open it
[18:06] <floating> oh, there was a "hardware drivers" in the xfce menu. although when i open it, it doesnt find any drivers
[18:07] <Besogon> Then you use OPEN DRIVER
[18:08] <Besogon> What have you got graphics card? (nvidia, ati, intel)
[18:08] <floating> i would like to try some other driver for my Intel 845G onboard graphic card. when i google something, i get some old info on xorg.conf, but xorg.conf is empty
[18:10] <floating> when i typed: sudo lshw -c display, i get : description: VGA compatible controller
[18:10] <keonne> Hello
[18:10] <floating> product: 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device
[18:10] <floating> and some more info0
[18:11] <keonne> Im trying to do a clean install over my xubuntu 8.04 of Ubuntu 9.04
[18:11] <keonne> when I try to install it fails to launch the GUI and goes into terminal
[18:11] <keonne> I know the CD works because I used it just before on another computer
[18:12] <keonne> i?s there a way to install 9.04 from the command line
[18:12] <glitsj16> floating: "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep driver" might produce some more info on the X driver presently in use
[18:13] <Besogon> floating, xorg.conf work like in old version UBUNTU, you can use old "how to".
[18:13] <The-Kernel> none of the intrepid sources are resolving...
[18:13] <The-Kernel> anything going on?
[18:13] <The-Kernel> uh
[18:13] <The-Kernel> nevermind
[18:14] <floating> someone says in yahoo http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081204201509AAERoWO "The intel drivers are all built right into the Linux kernel." .... but am i using an open driver, or vga compatible controller ? and can i try some other driver and how
[18:15] <floating> Besogon: i can add things to my empty xorg.conf ?
[18:15] <knome> floating, sure.
[18:16] <Besogon> floating, sorry, I have worked only with nvidia. Why not? Just do backup your xorg.conf file
[18:17] <floating> ok. I just dont know where i can find the alternative driver :I the command glitsj16 gives more detailed info on .so files associated etc^^  ...hmm, i just dont know how i'd proceed now
[18:18] <floating> i know this is a poor graphics device, but its usable on win xp, while on linux it is not exactly usable. when i put a youtube video on full screen, it is a dia show
[18:19] <knome> floating, have you tried jockey?
[18:19] <floating> no
[18:22] <Besogon> Is dia mean Defense Intelligence Agency? huh
[18:22] <knome> !ot | Besogon
[18:22] <floating> lol no. it means the video is not watchable, the fps is <5
[18:25] <Besogon> floating, did you install flash player? May be it's stupid quastion../
[18:25] <glitsj16> floating: are you on jaunty ?
[18:26] <Besogon> glitsj16,  yes he is on jainty.
[18:26] <floating> yeah on jaunty. i installed the xubuntu-restricted-extras that installed flash, im not exactly sure which flash it uses, didnt see details
[18:27] <floating> but thats a good point, i could try some other flash
[18:28] <floating> there was some gnash and some other options
[18:28] <glitsj16> Besogon: thanks .. floating: there are some known performance issues on jaunty with Intel graphics cards, take a look at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904#Performance%20regressions%20on%20Intel%20graphics%20cards for some things you can try to improve things
[18:28] <floating> i sdaw
[18:31] <floating> glitsj16: so if i want to edit those things to the device section in xorg.conf, do i just add a lonely device section to my empty xorg.conf file ?
[18:33] <glitsj16> floating: yes that should be picked up by X correct
[18:36] <floating> i read some people wondering why some other have empty xorg.conf, and they suggest running sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[18:36] <floating> hmm, maybe i could try that too ?
[18:38] <glitsj16> floating: worth a try i guess yes
[19:09] <floating> trying to revert with this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4 , but i dont get the instructions on the launchpad page on how to add GPG key :(
[19:13] <floating> there are info on validating own keys and adding keys. or about adding there is a link to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[19:14] <floating> but that page starts to talk about "generating pgp key"
[19:19] <ron_o> hey guys. When I d/l a youtube video I can retrive it from my /tmp directory. But sometimes on other sites I can't find the .flv file anywhere on my computer.
[19:19] <ron_o> any ideas where it could be?
[19:20] <ron_o> for Opera, I've checked the temporary download file.
[19:21] <ron_o> and the cache file..
[19:21] <ron_o> hmm.
[19:24] <glitsj16> floating: go to https://launchpad.net/~siretart/+archive/ppa and follow the instructions on the link provided there to add that repository's GPG key
[19:28] <artistxe> hope that ppl are alive today :)
[19:29] <artistxe> just updated to 9.04 and I am curious. is there a way to utilize xfce 4.6 without an upgrade. ?
[19:30] <ron_o> that reminds me. I've got to upgrade to 8.04. :)
[19:30] <artistxe> I may end up reverting due to lack of support for my (ahem) ati card.
[19:30] <ron_o> reverting?
[19:30] <ron_o> how so?
[19:30] <ron_o> just reinstall?
[19:30] <artistxe> yes. just do a complete reinstall]
[19:31] <ron_o> the thing is I just read an article that reminded of a way to keep everything no matter what, as long as your data is separate from your OS.
[19:31] <artistxe> I do.
[19:31] <ron_o> just copy all your data files from /home
[19:31] <artistxe> I keep everything in my home dir
[19:31] <artistxe> data that I work with that is
[19:31] <ron_o> and copy all the files from synaptic cache, and wallah.
[19:32] <ron_o> reinstall and you got it.
[19:32] <ron_o> hehe. easy.
[19:32] <Slonkie> "wallah" ??
[19:32] <artistxe> but I want to do it clean. I upgraded and kept my user profiles and such.
[19:32] <ron_o> eventually I'll get all my /home on a separate hard drive.
[19:32] <artistxe> but everything is crosswired.
[19:32] <ron_o> Slonkie, wha?
[19:32] <Slonkie> nvm lol
[19:32] <artistxe> I experimented too much with packages and dependencies
[19:33] <artistxe> Slonkie : "wallah" is a valid computer term. unlike the French "Viola"
[19:34] <artistxe> Voila rather. A Viola is a stringed instrument
[19:34] <Slonkie> yeah
[19:34] <artistxe> ____ a closed mouth gathers no feet
[19:34] <ron_o> anyways, I think I'll try an upgrade today... 8.04 should be pretty safe. :)
[19:35] <ron_o> hehe: feet.
[19:35] <ron_o> feat?
[19:35] <artistxe> uh. 8.10 is too scary for you ?
[19:36] <floating> glitsj16: seems like none of the methods http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904#Performance%20regressions%20on%20Intel%20graphics%20cards helped.. too bad :/ maytbe i just try the gnash and if it doesnt help, i will have to go use windows
[19:36] <ron_o> maybe it's 8.10. Don't know. It depends on what the upgrader allows me to go to.
[19:37] <glitsj16> floating: too bad indeed, why not fall back to xubuntu 8.10 for a few weeks untill the Intel graphics issue gets solved in 9.04 ? Goodluck :)
[19:37] <ron_o> it's 8.10.. yah.
[19:37] <artistxe> ron_o : the update manager may point you towards 9.04
[19:37] <ron_o> no, it doesn't. I just checked.
[19:38] <artistxe> 8.10 . that's it ?
[19:38] <ron_o> yah..
[19:38] <ron_o> I like being behind anyways.
[19:38] <ron_o> I don't do much, but right now I'd like it if I could get sound to my TV through my HDMI cable.
[19:38] <artistxe> if it works then don't change it maybe
[19:38] <ron_o> that's really the only reason why I need to upgrade as it is.
[19:39] <artistxe> ron_o, it is not your only OS. is it ?
[19:39] <ron_o> what?
[19:39]  * artistxe recommends everyone has a version of Puppy somewhere :)
[19:39] <ron_o> ahh, yes. I do.
[19:40] <ron_o> I have many live CDs.
[19:40] <artistxe> ron_o, is it your only operating system installed ?
[19:40] <artistxe> xubuntu ?
[19:40] <ron_o> installed, yes... but not liveCDs.
[19:40] <ron_o> I have other computers around if need be, if things go way too awry.
[19:40] <artistxe> oh. well maybe you will have to rely on one of those cds one day to do a recovery
[19:41] <ron_o> exactly. I've used them before.
[19:41] <artistxe> anyway. I am off for a bit. nice chatting with you
[19:41] <ron_o> well for recovery knoppix is all anyone would ever need.
[19:41] <ron_o> cya.
[20:01] <gorgut> hey folks. I'm trying to get my volume/mute keys to work on my Dell Latitude D600 laptop. I just did a fresh install of Jaunty. showkey sees the keypresses and apparently they're mapped to "XF86AudioLowerVolume" etc but they don't actually DO anything. Any ideas?
[20:09] <Slonkie> gorgut did you try adding the shortcuts in keyboard settings?
[20:09] <gorgut> Slonkie, i went into they keyboard settings and added them as shortcuts, but I'm not sure what to put as the command.?
[20:10] <gorgut> Slonkie, i added them as shortcuts to test their mapping, rather
[20:10] <Slonkie> all right
[20:10] <Slonkie> aumix -v-10 to decrease sound
[20:11] <Slonkie> aumix -v+10 to increase sound
[20:11] <Slonkie> aumix -v0 to mute
[20:12] <gorgut> Slonkie, brilliant. Thank you very much :D
[20:13] <Slonkie> heh no problem, your only number 3 today with that problem ;)
[20:13] <Slonkie> you're
[20:14] <gorgut> haha
[20:14] <gorgut> you're getting good at this by now, eh
[20:14] <Slonkie> :p
[20:19] <SiDi> Slonkie, why does it work for all of them and not me ? :'(
[20:20] <SiDi> but its ok, gnome-keybinding has nice interactions with notify-osd :D my system is sexy <3
[20:20] <Slonkie> lol
[20:20] <Slonkie> Well that's good then
[20:32] <gorgut> anyone recommend a good WYSIWYG html editor ?
[20:32] <gorgut> (besides seamonkey *groan*)
[20:33] <qdr> does anyone know a solution to this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1137036
[20:38] <qdr> deeeep silence.. :S
[20:40] <cheryl_> hello
[20:42] <Slonkie> I'm trying to install amarok 1.4.10 but it tells me i need "the x headers", anyone know how i get these?
[21:20] <Mood> 9.04's new xfce removed the volume control from the panel -- how do i get it back?
[21:29] <Slonkie> Right click -> add -> mixer ?
[21:30] <Mood> Slonkie: this mixer seems like a different app from the prior version of xfce -- there was a little vertical bar that controlled volume ... what app was that called?
[21:32] <ron_o> actually, add 'volume control..
[21:33] <ron_o> I keep losing volume control on my panel all the time.
[21:33] <ron_o> don't know why.
[21:33] <ron_o> just have to readd it all the time.
[21:33] <ron_o> actually, I do know why. Ran panel in terminal....
[21:33] <Mood> what is the volume control app called?
[21:33] <ron_o> volume control..
[21:34] <Mood> where do you see that under "add new items"?
[21:34] <ron_o> under volume?
[21:35] <Mood> ron_o: what version of xubuntu are you running?
[21:35] <ron_o> 8.04
[21:35] <Mood> there is no 8.04
[21:35] <Mood> 8.10 or 9.04
[21:35] <Slonkie> 8.04 was the version before 8.10
[21:35] <Mood> hmm.... Slonkie- do you have volume?
[21:36] <Mood> under add new items?
[21:36] <Slonkie> No, i'm using Mixer
[21:36] <Mood> i don't think 9.04 has volume controls separately from mixer
[21:36] <Mood> :-(
[21:36] <Slonkie> i basicly only use it to see how much volume is on, to turn it up/down i use media buttons on my laptop
[21:36] <basajaun> hi all
[21:36] <Slonkie> !hi | basajaun
[21:38] <basajaun> drive permissions erratic in 9.04 but what a nice job of a version!!!
[21:38] <ron_o> Mood, that sucks.
[21:38] <ron_o> how about using some gnome panel app..
[21:39] <Mood> ron_o: yeah. ah well :-s maybe i should downgrade to 8.04 like you did
[21:39] <ron_o> or maybe you can download it separarely.. check.
[21:39] <ron_o> I never upgraded.
[21:39] <basajaun> 8.10 was easy all drive were immediately usable this is a nightmare
[21:39] <ron_o> do a synaptic search for it.
[21:39] <ron_o> I'm sure it's there.
[21:39] <Mood> ron_o: good idea
[21:40] <ron_o> it would be stupid not to be.
[21:40] <ron_o> plus there's some app that you can run all gnome applets on a xubuntu panel. So, you'll find something.
[21:40] <ron_o> good to know. No way would I upgrade if that were the case.
[21:41] <ron_o> I use that function more than anything else me thinks.
[21:42] <Mood> ron_o: yeah me too when playing audacious. sh!ite
[21:43] <acb3> hello?
[21:43] <acb3> I have lost my menu editor upgrading from 8.10 to 9.04
[21:43] <ron_o> a good a buy.. :)
[21:44] <ron_o> j/k.
[21:44] <acb3> can anyone tell me how to get it, or what file to edit by hand?
[21:44] <ron_o> acb3, I can't. I'm still on 8.04.. it's just one reason why I stay way behind the times.
[21:44] <acb3> because right at the moment I have an enormously overstuffed desktop menu
[21:45] <acb3> ron_o: it works in 8.10 :-)
[21:45] <ron_o> yah, like 6 months ago. :)
[21:45] <ron_o> of course it did.
[21:46] <ron_o> I bet you lost your menu editor file in the upgrade.
[21:46] <acb3> yup. But what _should_ it be called?
[21:47] <acb3> surely I can find it and re-edit it ... my flash plugin seems also to have gone, though it is marked as installed
[21:49] <Slonkie> anyone in here using Jaunty and Amarok 2.0.2?
[21:50] <Mood> ron_o: is your volume control part of mixer? or does it look like a different app entirely?
[21:51] <ron_o> different app.
[21:51] <ron_o> it says: "Volume Control".
[21:52] <Mood> ron_o: faak. ok. thanks ron_o
[21:53] <ron_o> http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/tag/volume/
[21:53] <ron_o> part of your solution.
[21:53] <ron_o> faak?
[21:54] <Mood> faak = faakkk!! :-)
[21:56] <ron_o> bbiab
[22:02] <Ultraputz> i've hit a snag -- basically, in the jaunty upgrade, it failed to update the uuid that cryptroot is assigned, and so the machine fails to boot and drops to busybox in initramfs.
[22:02] <SiDi> Ultraputz, you can still fix it
[22:02] <SiDi> its really boring but you can
[22:02] <Ultraputz> i hope so :-)
[22:02] <SiDi> i ended up in the same situation, without livecd/liveusb/other pc
[22:03] <Ultraputz> me too
[22:03] <SiDi> when you're  in the initramfs console
[22:03] <Ultraputz> my optical disc is broken
[22:03] <SiDi> type mkdir potatoe
[22:03] <Ultraputz> so if you know the dharma, lay it on me.
[22:03] <SiDi> then mount /dev/sda1 potatoe (assuming your system is in sda1)
[22:03] <SiDi> then cd potatoe/boot/grub
[22:03] <SiDi> then it's gonna be tricky
[22:03] <SiDi> you'll cat menu.lst
[22:03] <SiDi> and use echo "blabla" >> menu.lst to copy each line of one boot entry LINE BY LINE
[22:04] <Ultraputz> ok...
[22:04] <SiDi> and you'll change the root=UUID=blable in root=/dev/sda1
[22:04] <Ultraputz> slow down
[22:04] <SiDi> then you'll have the option at next boot, and it'll work
[22:04] <basajaun> bye all
[22:04] <Ultraputz> both machines have bad keyboards, and mount is not working
[22:04] <SiDi> go there, i'll tell you the commands accurately :)
[22:04] <SiDi> mount should work
[22:04] <SiDi> just type it till it works :P
[22:04] <SiDi> and try with -t ext3, too
[22:05] <SiDi> or ext4 if you use ext4
[22:05] <Ultraputz> "mount: mounting /dev/sda1 on potatoe failed: invalid argument"
[22:06] <knome> lol
[22:06] <Ultraputz> it's an encrypted disk...
[22:06]  * knome broke the left armrest of his working chair
[22:06] <Ultraputz> there we go
[22:06] <Ultraputz> i did mount /dev/disk/by-uuid/*
[22:06] <Ultraputz> (only one entry)
[22:07] <Ultraputz> SiDi -- there's nothing available initramfs that would enable a search and replace, rather than line by line echo facility, would there be >
[22:08] <SiDi> Ultraputz, i'm writing you a quick guide in a pastebin, sec
[22:08] <SiDi> Ultraputz, i tried vi/vim/nano, didnt work
[22:08] <Ultraputz> i get what we're doing...
[22:08] <Ultraputz> ok
[22:08] <SiDi> knome, congratz
[22:08] <knome> \o/
[22:08] <Ultraputz> for editing, i was using echo -e "<>\n<>" > file
[22:09] <SiDi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/158133/ Ultraputz
[22:09] <SiDi> I dont know about echo's advanced syntax
[22:10] <SiDi> i did line by line
[22:10] <SiDi> and use >>, not >
[22:10] <SiDi> > erases the file :P
[22:10] <Ultraputz> \n allows a linefeed
[22:10] <SiDi> well, it was writing an actual \n when i tried :D
[22:10] <Ultraputz> echo -e, among other things, allows \n to be recognized as a linefed, so you can enter a bunch of lines on a single line and then no append necc.
[22:10] <SiDi> thats why i did it line by line
[22:10] <SiDi> thanks for the tip :)
[22:10] <Ultraputz> that's what echo -e fixes :-)
[22:11] <SiDi> ofc after you've booted with the tmp boot entry, edit your file correctly
[22:12] <Ultraputz> this paste bin -- brilliant approach
[22:12] <Ultraputz> well done, btw
[22:13] <SiDi> thanks :)
[22:13] <Slonkie> I'm trying to compile amarok, but i'm getting this error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[22:13] <Slonkie> So, check this please and use another prefix!"
[22:14] <Slonkie> Would anyone be able to help me with it?
[22:15] <SiDi> err
[22:15] <Ultraputz> sidi -- however, i have realized this will not fix my problem
[22:15] <SiDi> Ultraputz, why so ?
[22:15] <Ultraputz> because the problem is IN initrd.img
[22:15] <SiDi> oh, its not the boot entry ?
[22:15] <Ultraputz> no
[22:15] <SiDi> you compiled your kernel with the disk UUID ? Oo
[22:15] <Ultraputz> i did not
[22:15] <Ultraputz> upgrade did
[22:15] <SiDi> can't be :O
[22:16] <SiDi> try to boot on 2.6.27.11
[22:16] <Ultraputz> ok
[22:16] <SiDi> it should still be here
[22:16] <Ultraputz> in conf/conf.d/cryptroot
[22:16] <Ultraputz> it specifies the old uuid for the disk, pre-upgrade.
[22:16] <Ultraputz> it changed it
[22:16] <Ultraputz> so whenever i restart, it fails, because it cannot find the old uuid
[22:16]  * SiDi really doesn't know about crypted partitions though !
[22:16] <Ultraputz> that's the problem
[22:16] <SiDi> that's the problem of UUIDs for partitions...
[22:16] <Ultraputz> what i need to know is how to actually specify the correct one to boot to to go back and fix the problem init initrd.
[22:17] <SiDi> there actually are less chances that your /dev change than your UUIDs
[22:17] <Ultraputz> i don't understand a) why it changed the uuid, and b) if so, how that was missed in testing.
[22:17] <SiDi> try to boot with your old 2.6.27.11 kernel
[22:17] <Ultraputz> i tried everything on the menu
[22:17] <SiDi> build a menu entry without UUID, with 2.6.27.11. Did you do this ?
[22:17] <J_Litews1i> ok, problem
[22:17] <Ultraputz> ... grub is fine
[22:17] <Ultraputz> it can boot the machine
[22:18] <Ultraputz> but it can't get past LUKS
[22:18] <Ultraputz> because it can't find the disk to decrypt
[22:18] <J_Litews1i> i screwed up, and now everytime i double click on a mousepad file, it runs sudo
[22:18] <Ultraputz> it's being given the wrong information by something set in the ram image
[22:18] <J_Litews1i> how do i fix it?
[22:18] <Ultraputz> right click the file and change the association
[22:19] <Ultraputz> right click, open with
[22:19] <J_Litews1i> since it freezes the X Server, and I can't kill the sudo process
[22:19] <Ultraputz> and change the app
[22:19] <J_Litews1i> ah, ok
[22:19] <Ultraputz> cool litewsli ?
[22:19] <SiDi> Ultraputz, then there's nothing i can do for you :/
[22:19] <J_Litews1i> now, without killing X, how can i kill the sudo process?
[22:20] <Ultraputz> reboot :-)
[22:20] <Ultraputz> oh
[22:20] <Ultraputz> kill -9
[22:20] <Ultraputz> ps aux | grep sudo
[22:20] <Ultraputz> find the proc id and kill -9 <id>
[22:20] <J_Litews1i> ok
[22:20] <Ultraputz> kill -9 is a bad habit, btw :-)
[22:21] <Ultraputz> Sidi -- thanks anyway -- your pastebin should be posted at ubuntuforums
[22:21] <Ultraputz> that could be very useful for the person with the right problem
[22:22] <J_Litews1i> thankyou Ultraputz
[22:22] <SiDi> Ultraputz, i'll consider this if i don't forget ^^
[22:22]  * Ultraputz brings a chicken to the altar to sacrifice and summon TheSheep.
[22:23] <knome> o.O
[22:26] <Ultraputz> bbl
[22:29] <SiDi> bb Ultraputz
[22:30] <SiDi> Btw, knome's chair is a good chicken candidate, for its offensive armrest breakage !
[22:31] <knome> hehe
[22:31] <knome> sure
[22:45] <ron_o> egads..
[22:45] <ron_o> man.
[22:45] <ron_o> I screwed up when I made my boot partition. I made it only 100MB and now I dumb run out of space to upgrade.
[22:45] <ron_o> can I just delete everything except the kernal I am using and then upgrade?
[22:49] <cheryl> Hello?
[22:49] <knome> !hi | cheryl
[22:49] <ron_o> aye
[22:50] <cheryl> Thanks, glad to be here. Anybody out there know how to get an i740 intel graphic card working correctly?
[22:51] <cheryl> I am running on the latest .iso.
[22:53] <ron_o> well, I'd check to see if it runs in knoppix or some other liveCD to track down what might be wrong.
[22:53] <ron_o> you can use commands to see if your computer even recognizes the card to begin with.
[22:53] <ron_o> and beyond that, you're probably going to have to find the correct driver for it to work.
[22:53] <cheryl> What is the command to sse.
[22:53] <cheryl> *see
[22:54] <ron_o> there's quite a few..... in root:   $lspci   or ... $dmidecode
[22:54] <ron_o> is the card ati?
[22:55] <cheryl> no, it is an intel i740 agp card
[22:55] <ron_o> I don't know much about graphics cards, but there are some that are more supported than others.
[22:56] <cheryl> I have been fighting it all day. From what I have read, there is a driver included in the image, but it does recognize the card on install.
[22:57] <ron_o> what's the cards name again?
[22:58] <ron_o> cheryl, ?
[23:00] <cheryl> It is an intel i740. dmidecode says it is unknown.
[23:00] <cheryl> Sorry I was searching the output from dmidecode.
[23:01] <cheryl> Handle 0x0012, DMI type 9, 13 bytes
[23:01] <cheryl> System Slot Information
[23:01] <cheryl> 	Designation: AGP1
[23:01] <cheryl> 	Type: 32-bit AGP
[23:01] <cheryl> 	Current Usage: Unknown
[23:01] <cheryl> 	Length: Long
[23:01] <cheryl> 	ID: 8
[23:01] <cheryl> 	Characteristics:
[23:01] <cheryl> 		3.3 V is provided
[23:01] <knome> !pastebin | cheryl
[23:01] <cheryl> 		PME signal is supported
[23:01] <ron_o> yah, use pastebin.
[23:01] <ron_o> I see. It's not ati.. it's intel.. yuck.
[23:01] <ron_o> it may not be supported on linux.
[23:02] <ron_o> no doubt its driver support is proprietary, patented and secret to the linux world.
[23:03] <cheryl> k, it has been pastebinned. LOL
[23:03] <cheryl> intel created the chipset
[23:04] <ron_o> you need to show the URL.
[23:04] <ron_o> anyways, there's an xorg driver out there for your card: http://packages.ubuntu.com/it/hardy/xserver-xorg-video-i740
[23:04] <cheryl> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/158154/
[23:05] <ron_o> in synaptic package manager, search for intel i740
[23:05] <ron_o> see if it's installed.
[23:06] <cheryl> I think I already did, but I will check again to make sure.
[23:09] <cheryl> it found it says it is installed. Do I uninstall and reinstall?
[23:09] <cheryl> Or mark for reinstall?
[23:10] <ron_o> no, your xserver ain't recognizing it.
[23:11] <cheryl> How do I make it do that?
[23:11] <ron_o> you're going to have to reconfigure your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[23:11] <ron_o> however, I can't help you out much with that.
[23:12] <ron_o> the good news is your card is recognized, the bad news is that it's not recognized autamatically.
[23:12] <cheryl> Thanks for you help. I have been editing that file all day. I have a friend at work how is an ubuntu junkie, if i have to i will get his help.
[23:13] <ron_o> here's something for you
[23:13] <ron_o> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+question/60060
[23:13] <ron_o> yah, get his help
[23:14] <ron_o> just make a backup of xorg.conf file and have a liveCD handy just in case.
[23:14] <ron_o> something like knoppix will do. But make sure it works before you go screwing around. :)
[23:14] <ron_o> hehe, just thought of this. LiveCDs are the condoms of the linux world!
[23:15] <ron_o> one difference, you use it only *after* you get into trouble. :)
[23:17] <cheryl> Thanks, what is a livecd, the ubuntu image?
[23:17] <ron_o> well it can be..
[23:17] <ron_o> look up knoppix and see.
[23:18] <ron_o> basically a live operating system that runs off a CD/DVD
[23:18] <ron_o> great for emergencies/hacking and even backup.
[23:19] <ron_o> can anyone tell me why the upgrade process needs like 88MB in my boot partition?
[23:19] <ron_o> damn..
[23:19] <ron_o> what a pain!
[23:22] <cheryl> Well, here goes. Time for the reboot. (maniacal laughter)
[23:26] <ron_o> well, upgrading. Hope all goes well here.
[23:27] <ron_o> working?
[23:27] <ron_o> did you make a backup of your old xorg.conf ?
[23:28] <ron_o> getting 1100 KB/s here. Not a bad connection at all.
[23:34] <cheryl> nope, I have so many backups it is pointless to do that. I have the orginal from when started this morning.
[23:34] <cheryl> I just tried something else in that thread, I am not too optimistic though the last post said he still had not gotten it working.
[23:54] <D-Lyrium> hmm, my laptop refuses to boot from a USB stick.
[23:54] <D-Lyrium> any ideas as to why?
[23:54] <D-Lyrium> it's the xubuntu .iso file that's on there
[23:55] <D-Lyrium> trying to install xubuntu
[23:55] <ron_o> D-Lyrium, I'm sure you have to do  more than just put the iso on the USB stick.
[23:56] <D-Lyrium> oh. That's all I was told to do ¬_¬
[23:56] <ron_o> I've never done it before, however. But have read websites describing the process.
[23:56] <quickdraw> I'm a bit of a newb, but i'm pretty sure there is a seperate way to run it from a USB drive.
[23:56] <quickdraw> But i'm blanking on it atm.
[23:56] <ron_o> If you have Windows I hear that Nero has a USB burner on there.
[23:57] <ron_o> some day I'll try it, but until I get at least a 4GB or better an 8GB USB drive, there's no use trying.
[23:58] <ron_o> wow, my upgrade is now at 245KB/s. I wonder if my ISP is slowing me down.
[23:59] <ron_o> most likely.