| kklimonda | bug 367040 | 00:17 |
|---|---|---|
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 367040 in aap "Please sync aap (1.090-1) from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/367040 | 00:17 |
| kklimonda | we can't sync applications with debian in stable releases, and fix for #112329 should be backported from mainstream to all supported ubuntu release. right? | 00:18 |
| hggdh | kklimonda, correct. Depending on the issues, it might be considered for SRU | 00:19 |
| kklimonda | yeah | 00:19 |
| kklimonda | it crashes at start | 00:19 |
| hggdh | always? | 00:19 |
| kklimonda | when no arguments are passed | 00:19 |
| kklimonda | when -t is passed | 00:20 |
| kklimonda | it tries to concatenate string with a tuple | 00:20 |
| kklimonda | so this bug should be marked as invalid? | 00:20 |
| hggdh | as far as I can remember, Debian will be automagically sync-ed for Karmic | 00:21 |
| kklimonda | but a bug to sync it to jaunty (and probably some older releases) is invalid? | 00:22 |
| kklimonda | a request* | 00:22 |
| hggdh | but better to ask in #ubuntu-motu | 00:22 |
| hggdh | yes, it is incorrect to sync to Jaunty | 00:22 |
| hggdh | s/sync to/sync for/ | 00:23 |
| kklimonda | I'm not sure that fixing 112329 is worth an effort - 1.072 was released 5 years ago.. | 00:26 |
| hggdh | I agree, but this is a decision that is not ours to make... the packager will decide. | 00:26 |
| kklimonda | also last release was over 2 years ago | 00:27 |
| kklimonda | sigh, it is using cvs and it returns 404 error.. | 00:28 |
| kklimonda | heh, even if we fix 112329 it won't work | 00:30 |
| Ryan52 | 17:38 -locobot_2(n=UbuntuLo@ubuntu/bot/locobot)- #ubuntu-bugs: The channel is logged (at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode). Please observe the Ubuntu Code of Conduct. Thank you! | 02:04 |
| Ryan52 | you do realize that there's chanserv that can tell you that, right? | 02:04 |
| hggdh | huh? | 03:51 |
| meoblast001 | hi | 05:18 |
| meoblast001 | i think the flash package is broken | 05:18 |
| Yondering | hola. I'm not sure if the issue I have could be considered a bug or not, anyone here I can bend an ear for a minute? | 05:58 |
| leifdk1978 | hello | 06:46 |
| leifdk1978 | morning guys | 07:37 |
| leifdk1978 | :) | 07:57 |
| YoBoY | good morning | 08:11 |
| leifdk1978 | :) | 08:11 |
| YoBoY | feeling alone leifdk1978 ? :p | 08:11 |
| leifdk1978 | YoBoY: hey a bit :) | 08:12 |
| leifdk1978 | afk a min or 2 need a bath | 08:12 |
| YoBoY | take your time | 08:12 |
| leifdk1978 | back YoBoY :) | 08:20 |
| leifdk1978 | :) | 08:27 |
| leifdk1978 | back | 08:50 |
| leifdk1978 | :( | 08:51 |
| leifdk1978 | any one here :) | 09:05 |
| === yoasif__ is now known as yoasif | ||
| leifdk1978 | :( | 09:19 |
| leifdk1978 | well just gota wait | 09:19 |
| soren | leifdk1978: If you have questions, just ask them. | 09:19 |
| leifdk1978 | need some guiding on bugs is on launcpad and there is a huge amount of bugs and i would like to help but have no idea | 09:20 |
| leifdk1978 | any one wana get me started :) | 09:52 |
| BUGabundo | guud morning | 09:57 |
| kklimonda | yawn.. morning.. :) | 09:58 |
| leifdk1978 | morning | 09:58 |
| leifdk1978 | any one got time for a new bug guy | 10:00 |
| BUGabundo | leifdk1978: shoot | 10:00 |
| leifdk1978 | just how to start on it is brand new is the bedst way to start removing duplets or | 10:01 |
| jpds | leifdk1978: I think the best way to start, is to look at the bug pages for your favourite packages and seeing if you can reproduce and confirm the bugs. | 10:04 |
| leifdk1978 | ok thanx | 10:04 |
| jpds | And of course, ask here if you're unsure of anything. | 10:05 |
| leifdk1978 | ok thanx a lot guys | 10:06 |
| leifdk1978 | how do i set a bug as a wish | 11:00 |
| BUGabundo | leifdk1978: you only do if you are in bug control team (I think) | 11:01 |
| leifdk1978 | ok lot os wish is put in bugs | 11:01 |
| BUGabundo | if you don't, usually you just ask here, and hope some one does | 11:02 |
| leifdk1978 | ok | 11:02 |
| BUGabundo | leifdk1978: ususally some of those are better redirect at brainstorm.ubuntu.com | 11:02 |
| BUGabundo | !brainstorm | 11:02 |
| ubot4 | Post your ideas for ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like! | 11:02 |
| leifdk1978 | ok | 11:02 |
| leifdk1978 | hmmm strange 2 bugs have same number | 11:40 |
| BUGabundo | leifdk1978: ha?? link ? | 11:41 |
| leifdk1978 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.has_no_package=&field.has_patch=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.searchtext=java&field.status%3Alist=NEW&orderby=-importance&search=Search&start=300 | 11:42 |
| leifdk1978 | 361243 | 11:42 |
| leifdk1978 | x4 of same bug | 11:43 |
| BUGabundo | ehehe | 11:43 |
| BUGabundo | no just one bug, serveral task | 11:43 |
| BUGabundo | example a bug can affect kernel and Xorg at the same time | 11:43 |
| leifdk1978 | ahhhhh | 11:43 |
| kklimonda | I don't like the way LP does it.. for some reason It confuses me ;) | 11:44 |
| leifdk1978 | keeep on searching | 11:44 |
| leifdk1978 | yeah big time | 11:44 |
| BUGabundo | humm from what I've seen, LP is the best BTS around | 11:44 |
| kklimonda | Indeed - but there are some rough edges still. | 11:45 |
| leifdk1978 | weee i found a bug i had me self :) | 11:45 |
| leifdk1978 | :) exactly the same | 11:46 |
| BUGabundo | leifdk1978: if you are going that way, you will end up worse then me, subscriving to over 500 bugs | 11:48 |
| leifdk1978 | ha ha yeah yeah i know | 11:49 |
| BUGabundo | I hare reviewing new bug queue.... I just keep seeing stuff I have too | 11:49 |
| leifdk1978 | :) | 11:49 |
| BUGabundo | and then I sub to them all | 11:49 |
| leifdk1978 | ok | 11:49 |
| kklimonda | does PPA still have 1GB quota? | 11:51 |
| BUGabundo | dunno | 11:58 |
| BUGabundo | they can increase it if you ask/need/deserv | 11:58 |
| kklimonda | Nah, I'm just curious :) | 11:59 |
| BUGabundo | ohh I was going to ask: "do you deserv?" | 12:00 |
| BUGabundo | ehe | 12:00 |
| kklimonda | but playing with package sources is addicting ;) | 12:02 |
| porthose | kklimonda: the last I heard it was only 1GB per PPA, but know that you can have more than 1 PPA, I'm not sure how it works, | 12:02 |
| triciens | hi, I'm trying to debug and I don't understand how to Import the debug symbol archive signing key. I'm following the guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash | 13:23 |
| MrKanister | triciens: Hi. You open a terminal and run the 3 lines of code starting with "gpg". Just copy and past them one by one. | 13:25 |
| triciens | MrKanister: thanks | 13:25 |
| MrKanister | triciens: Your're welcome | 13:26 |
| triciens | I'm trying to follow these instructions: "And then you attach gdb using "gdb -p $(pidof gnome-display-preferences)" and you can activate logging in gdb using "set logging file gdb.txt" followed by "set logging file on". Finally you just press CTRL-C to break the program and run "bt full" to collect the stack. Then you run "c" to resume execution of the program, wait like 1 second then you press CTRL-C again and repeat "bt full". But I get "gdb: option | 13:41 |
| hggdh | triciens, you got cut off at "But I get | 13:44 |
| triciens | But I get "gdb: option '-p' requires an argument" in the terminal after I run "gdb -p $(pidof gnome-display-preferences)". Any ideas? | 13:44 |
| hggdh | is gnome-display-preferences running? | 13:45 |
| triciens | yes | 13:45 |
| triciens | oh! it should be gnome-display-properties | 13:45 |
| hggdh | ah | 13:46 |
| hggdh | there you go | 13:47 |
| triciens | "Afterwards, attach the gdb.txt file to this bug report." Where can I find that file? | 13:52 |
| hggdh | where you ran gdb from | 13:55 |
| triciens | this is so confusing | 13:56 |
| hggdh | did you find it? | 13:59 |
| triciens | no | 14:05 |
| triciens | this is the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/366757 | 14:06 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 366757 in xorg "Display Preferences causes 100% CPU usage and does not open correctly" [Undecided,New] | 14:06 |
| hggdh | on the terminal, under which directory were you at? | 14:06 |
| triciens | (gdb) | 14:07 |
| hggdh | no, this is already under gdb | 14:07 |
| hggdh | this is what you see now? | 14:08 |
| triciens | yes, I see (gdb) now | 14:08 |
| hggdh | OK, you did not exit gdb. Type 'q' (for 'quit') now | 14:08 |
| hggdh | and hit enter | 14:08 |
| triciens | ok, done | 14:09 |
| hggdh | now look for the file | 14:09 |
| hggdh | ls gdb.txt | 14:09 |
| triciens | I'm looking in etc/apt but it's not there | 14:10 |
| triciens | maybe it didn't get created | 14:10 |
| hggdh | where were you when you started gdb? | 14:10 |
| hggdh | under /etc/apt? | 14:10 |
| triciens | i think so | 14:11 |
| triciens | I followed the instructions on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/366757 | 14:11 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 366757 in xorg "Display Preferences causes 100% CPU usage and does not open correctly" [Undecided,New] | 14:11 |
| hggdh | bad idea... your userid does not have the necessary rights to write there | 14:11 |
| hggdh | 'cd' back home, or 'cd /tmp' | 14:11 |
| hggdh | and (sorry) try again to get the trace | 14:12 |
| triciens | ok, I have cd to back home | 14:12 |
| hggdh | good. Now, get the gdb backtrace again | 14:13 |
| triciens | is that the "gdb -p $(pidof gnome-display-preferences) " bit? | 14:13 |
| hggdh | yes | 14:14 |
| triciens | ok, I ran "gdb -p $(pidof gnome-display-preferences) and now I have (gdb) and flashing cursor | 14:15 |
| e-jat | bug 340408 | 14:17 |
| hggdh | good. now we go back to the instructions: type in 'set logging file gdb.txt', hit enter | 14:17 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 340408 in medibuntu "[Jaunty] AMR decodec not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/340408 | 14:17 |
| e-jat | anyone know the status ? | 14:17 |
| hggdh | then 'set logging file on' | 14:17 |
| hggdh | e-jat, it is still in new | 14:17 |
| hggdh | triciens, did you get it done so far? | 14:17 |
| e-jat | hggdh: can u play 3gp file with video + sound ? | 14:18 |
| hggdh | e-jat, I do not even have medibuntu installed | 14:18 |
| e-jat | owh ok .. | 14:18 |
| hggdh | this is a medibuntu bug, *not* Ubuntu | 14:19 |
| triciens | yes, my PC is running very slowly because this bug is using most of my CPU | 14:19 |
| hggdh | triciens, OK. Now press Ctrl/C | 14:19 |
| triciens | i just did set logging file on | 14:19 |
| triciens | ok i have pressed ctrl/C | 14:20 |
| hggdh | OK | 14:20 |
| hggdh | type in 'bt full', to get the first stacktrace (or BackTrace), and hit enter | 14:21 |
| triciens | No symbol table info available. | 14:21 |
| triciens | lots of stuff on screen including No symbol table info available. | 14:21 |
| hggdh | it is the end -- the backtrace itself -- that we are interested in. If you *did* install the debug packages the bug asked for, it should be good | 14:22 |
| hggdh | if in doubt, pastebin it here | 14:22 |
| hggdh | !pastebin | 14:22 |
| ubot4 | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 14:22 |
| triciens | http://paste.ubuntu.com/158566/ | 14:25 |
| triciens | I still don't know where to find the gdb.txt | 14:27 |
| hggdh | hold on, your pastebin shows you are still under gdb (and we are not done yet) | 14:28 |
| triciens | ok | 14:29 |
| triciens | thanks for the help by the way | 14:29 |
| hggdh | type in 't a a bt full' (thread apply all backtrace full), and hit enter. Pastebin the output of this command again. | 14:30 |
| andol | Looking at bug reports on issues related to an 8.10 to 9.04 upgrade. There seems to be an awful lot of those with empty VarLogDistupgradeDATE.gz attached | 14:30 |
| triciens | http://paste.ubuntu.com/158567/ | 14:31 |
| hggdh | triciens, also: when asked for '---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---', type enter | 14:32 |
| andol | Take bug #365915 as an example of what I just mention. I see lots of these at least on the bugs related to the server team. | 14:32 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 365915 in openldap "package slapd 2.4.15-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/365915 | 14:32 |
| hggdh | triciens, until you get back to (gdb) | 14:32 |
| triciens | done. You want me to pastbin that? | 14:32 |
| hggdh | triciens, yes, please | 14:32 |
| hggdh | andol, that is strange | 14:33 |
| triciens | http://paste.ubuntu.com/158571/ | 14:33 |
| hggdh | triciens, OK. Now please type in 'c' (continue), and hit enter. Wait some few seconds, and CTRL/C | 14:34 |
| triciens | done | 14:35 |
| andol | hggdh: Yes, thought so. Want more example? From what I have seen so far it covers pretty much any 8.10 -> 9.04 server bug | 14:35 |
| hggdh | andol, yes, another example, please | 14:35 |
| hggdh | triciens, after getting back under the (gdb) prompt, again type in 't a a bt full', and hit enter. Keep hitting enter until back in the (gdb) prompt | 14:36 |
| triciens | done | 14:36 |
| hggdh | triciens, OK. now type in 'q' (quit). This will end the gdb run, and put you back under the shell. | 14:37 |
| triciens | The program is running. Quit anyway (and detach it)? (y or n) | 14:38 |
| hggdh | triciens, take the time also to kill gnome-display-properties | 14:38 |
| hggdh | triciens, type in 'y' | 14:38 |
| triciens | you want me to 'end process' the gnome-display-preopeties from within System Monitor? | 14:39 |
| andol | hggdh: bug #367157, bug #366044, bug #365718 | 14:39 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 367157 in squid "package squid 2.7.STABLE3-4.1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/367157 | 14:39 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 366044 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "MySQL upgrade failed when updating to 9.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/366044 | 14:39 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 365718 in postfix "package postfix 2.5.5-1.1 failed to install/upgrade:" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/365718 | 14:39 |
| hggdh | andol, this looks more like apport is not getting the correct files (they all seem to have been apport-collected bugs) | 14:40 |
| andol | hggdh: agree | 14:41 |
| triciens | hggdh, I killed it | 14:42 |
| hggdh | triciens, which process is using all CPU? | 14:42 |
| hggdh | oh, OK | 14:42 |
| hggdh | is CPU usage back to normal? | 14:42 |
| triciens | that's the strange thing hggdh, I killed the process but still the CPU is 100% | 14:43 |
| hggdh | I thought so, I did not see anything weird in the backtrace | 14:43 |
| triciens | none of the processes in System Monitor are using much CPU | 14:43 |
| hggdh | but the CPU is still tagged at 100%? | 14:44 |
| triciens | Yes, CPU 1 is around 100% and CPU 2 is near 0%. Then they swap over. I say CPU but really I mean 'cores' | 14:44 |
| hggdh | that's OK. Allright, go back to the terminal you ran gdb from, and type in 'top', and hit enter | 14:45 |
| triciens | done | 14:45 |
| triciens | the command that is using 100% is 'Xorg' | 14:46 |
| hggdh | which programmes are at the top (using a lot of CPU)? | 14:46 |
| hggdh | good | 14:46 |
| hggdh | and bad... | 14:46 |
| triciens | what does that mean? | 14:47 |
| hggdh | good -- we know which programme is the offending one; bad: it *is* xorg | 14:47 |
| triciens | lol | 14:47 |
| hggdh | so your X session, right now, is hosed... | 14:48 |
| triciens | yes, I find I have to logout then back in to stop the CPU 100% | 14:48 |
| hggdh | triciens, it only happens when you run g-d-p? | 14:48 |
| triciens | yeah | 14:48 |
| triciens | so far | 14:49 |
| hggdh | ok. Suggestion: *right now*, do NOT run g-d-p ;-) | 14:49 |
| triciens | I think Ubuntu and ATI HD3870 do not like each other | 14:49 |
| hggdh | and you will have to end your X session (perhaps reboot) to clean up | 14:50 |
| triciens | k | 14:50 |
| triciens | can you update my bug-report? | 14:50 |
| hggdh | triciens, are you using fglrx? | 14:50 |
| triciens | what is fglrx? | 14:50 |
| triciens | oh its the propietary drivers | 14:51 |
| triciens | yes, I am | 14:51 |
| hggdh | yes | 14:51 |
| triciens | the problem only started after I enabled the drivers | 14:51 |
| triciens | and rebooted | 14:51 |
| triciens | and ran dg-d-p | 14:51 |
| triciens | *g-d-p | 14:51 |
| hggdh | OK. This means you are running code that we (the LInux community) do not have access to | 14:51 |
| triciens | yeah, that kinda sucks | 14:51 |
| hggdh | which means *only* ATI can help | 14:52 |
| hggdh | yes it does. A lot. | 14:52 |
| hggdh | hold on | 14:52 |
| triciens | do you know how I can tell ATI? | 14:52 |
| hggdh | please have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Debugging | 14:53 |
| triciens | Are nVidia drivers open-source? | 14:53 |
| triciens | Are ATI likely to release the code for theirs? | 14:53 |
| hggdh | it lists what has to/should be done in order to gather data for ATI | 14:53 |
| triciens | ok | 14:54 |
| hggdh | only ATI can answer that question. I hope they do | 14:54 |
| hggdh | nVidia are also closed-source | 14:54 |
| triciens | More and more people are going to buy ATI, because their cards seem better for the price these days | 14:54 |
| * hggdh also has an ATI board, but stays clear away from ATI drivers | 14:55 | |
| triciens | so you dont game on your PC? | 14:55 |
| hggdh | laptop. No I do not -- don't usually have time for it, unless it is chess. And chess does not need a lot of graphics ;-) | 14:55 |
| triciens | ah | 14:56 |
| triciens | so I wonder why nVidia drivers work well with Linux | 14:56 |
| triciens | both are closed source | 14:56 |
| hggdh | because their code sucks less currently | 14:56 |
| triciens | lol | 14:56 |
| triciens | I think all the bugs I've got with Ubuntu are caused by ATI drivers | 14:57 |
| triciens | I guess if your hardware works well, so does Ubuntu | 14:57 |
| hggdh | well ATI is not the only issue we have, but it does have a larger-than-fair amount of issues | 14:57 |
| triciens | How good are the ATI devs at releasing fixes, new drivers etc? | 14:58 |
| hggdh | if the hardware if fully understood by the Linux community, it will tend to work without issues | 14:58 |
| triciens | do they listen to the community? | 14:58 |
| hggdh | I do not know... the X guys would know better about ATI. It seems ATI is getting better, but still closed | 14:59 |
| triciens | ok | 14:59 |
| triciens | well, thanks for your help | 14:59 |
| hggdh | welcome | 15:01 |
| * andol wonders what to do about bug #364811. Apprently the person in question uses a canonical netbook repo, which contains a not entirely updated mysql-server package. | 15:59 | |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 364811 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.1 installation failed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364811 | 15:59 |
| andol | While it is not an official ubuntu repo, it is still a Canonical repo... | 15:59 |
| Bahaa | is 9.04 full of bugs ? | 16:01 |
| jpds | Bahaa: All software is. | 16:03 |
| Bahaa | i meant , are they more than what 8.10 has or less ? | 16:04 |
| jpds | There's no way to accurately measure that. | 16:04 |
| Bahaa | hmm | 16:05 |
| Bahaa | already downloaded 9.04 64-bit desktop edition | 16:05 |
| Bahaa | but you know.. | 16:05 |
| jpds | Old bugs get fixed, new features get added which may have new bugs. | 16:05 |
| Bahaa | install crashes | 16:05 |
| Bahaa | so, haven't yet used it somehow | 16:07 |
| hggdh | andol, good question | 16:17 |
| andol | hggdh: Anyhow, it seems as if the repo is out a sync. Just talk to a Canonical person about it and hopefully that will clear up the bug. | 16:18 |
| hggdh | andol, good. I was going to suggest getting hold of a Canonical person... did they tell you how Canonical bugs are dealt with? | 16:19 |
| andol | hggdh: No, but I'll see if I can get an answer on that too. | 16:20 |
| andol | hggdh: Got the respons that today is sunday, his day off, etc. Guess we'll have to wait a day or two :) | 16:26 |
| hggdh | heh | 16:26 |
| cypher1 | isnt bug 346289 duplicate of 314928 | 16:44 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 346289 in ubuntu "Choppy Flash playback in full screen." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/346289 | 16:44 |
| cypher1 | bug 314928 | 16:45 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 314928 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i915GM] MTRR entry missing since jaunty - is this intentional?" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/314928 | 16:45 |
| hggdh | cypher1, they seem to be related, but I am not sure they are dupes. At least a comment about 314928 can be added on 346289 stating it may be a dup, and the tag 'likely-dup' added | 17:01 |
| cypher1 | hggdh: thanks i have done that | 17:04 |
| cypher1 | hggdh: what is ubunt-x-swat team ? | 17:05 |
| hggdh | the group that deals with X | 17:05 |
| hggdh | we owe them a lot: they take care of X and bugs on it | 17:06 |
| dtchen | (see also #ubuntu-x) | 17:07 |
| cypher1 | thanks.. | 17:08 |
| cypher1 | seems like they have a fix for the mtrr issue in their repository .. if it works out for me i will mention it in the bug too so that people who want to try can do that | 17:09 |
| hggdh | cypher, good. Please try to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Description | 17:10 |
| hggdh | since we have a possible workaround | 17:10 |
| andol | hggdh: Regarding bug #364811. Seems like "Ubuntu Netbook Remix" is a good target to Subscribe :) Also, seems like it is intentional that the repository in question is in a diffrent state than the normal Ubuntu ones. | 17:16 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 364811 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.1 installation failed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364811 | 17:16 |
| hggdh | andol, thank you. Nothing like learning something new on Sundays ;-) | 17:17 |
| andol | hggdh: Scary isn't it? :) Actually, myself I kind of enjoy spending sunday afternoons doing som bug triage... | 17:20 |
| andol | Could anyone set the importance of bug #356256 as Wishlist? Unless you think it qualifies as real bug of course. | 17:52 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 356256 in openldap "dist-upgrade stops slapd" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/356256 | 17:52 |
| charlie-tca | I would be happy to. One question, though. Is it ever safe to upgrade the databases when in use or do they have to be stopped for it? | 17:57 |
| charlie-tca | If they must be stopped, it is invalid | 17:57 |
| andol | charlie-tca: That's a really good question :) yet, considering that we have now provide unattended security upgrades which also covers openldap, etc | 17:58 |
| andol | charlie-tca: I guess I'd say it is relativly safe, depening on how criticial your database is. | 17:58 |
| Nafallo | andol: can be blacklisted easily | 17:59 |
| charlie-tca | okay, done | 17:59 |
| Nafallo | andol: coming to think of that... can you adjust unattended upgrades conf on adder please? ;-) | 17:59 |
| andol | Nafallo: Yes it can be, but of lot of people who doesn't run really critical database probably doesn't do that. | 17:59 |
| andol | charlie-tca: thanks | 18:00 |
| charlie-tca | You are welcome | 18:02 |
| hggdh | this seems really like a legit request -- minimising ldap downtime on upgrades | 18:10 |
| andol | hggdh: Yes, I kind of agree, but where is the bug? This is after all standard apt/dpkg behavior, isn't it? | 18:11 |
| andol | hggdh: On the other hand, if you run any serious user auth from openldap, you usually have a slave as well? | 18:13 |
| hggdh | andol, yes. There are two other points: (1) you do not go through a release upgrade with users logged in; (2) | 18:13 |
| hggdh | if you have users on your system, you schedule downtime for upgrades | 18:13 |
| charlie-tca | I those are all valid points, wishlist is correct status, since it will keep the bug around but not make it a "gotta get this done" bug | 18:14 |
| hggdh | yes | 18:14 |
| khunt | i am experiencing problems with permissions on executable scripts and launchers | 19:13 |
| khunt | it seems to be a bug | 19:13 |
| khunt | if i log in as root and change permissions it goes back to what it was | 19:13 |
| Ampelbein | khunt: could you elaborate? | 19:19 |
| khunt | i have some scripts that i use to dial a 3g connection | 19:21 |
| khunt | since jaunty i can only run them as root | 19:22 |
| khunt | i start thunar as root and i can run them fine | 19:22 |
| khunt | change the permissions to allow all read write access | 19:22 |
| khunt | try running them normally doesnt work | 19:22 |
| khunt | view permissions and they still only allow root | 19:23 |
| hggdh | khunt, can you 'ls -l' one such script? | 19:26 |
| khunt | ok ang on | 19:29 |
| khunt | so ls -l <script name> | 19:29 |
| khunt | -rwx---rw- 1 root root 918 2009-04-24 21:45 three3g.sh | 19:30 |
| khunt | sorry that script is ok | 19:31 |
| khunt | -rwx------ 1 root root 867 2009-04-24 21:45 t-mobile3g.sh | 19:31 |
| khunt | for some reason jaunty has altered all the permissions of these files | 19:33 |
| khunt | that never happened in intrepid and hardy | 19:34 |
| hggdh | well, both of them are owned by root, and executable by root only | 19:38 |
| khunt | if a file is copied by sudo does it make it owned by root? | 19:39 |
| khunt | before i installed jaunty they worked fine and now i can only operate them from a terminal using sudo | 19:40 |
| kklimonda | yes | 19:40 |
| khunt | but they were copied using sudo in intrepid | 19:41 |
| hggdh | yes, the resulting copied file will be owned by root | 19:41 |
| khunt | you see i have an install script | 19:41 |
| khunt | that copies the files into a directory created by the script | 19:41 |
| khunt | i always use the same install script | 19:41 |
| khunt | which worked fine in older ubuntus but all of a sudden is borked | 19:42 |
| hggdh | khunt, out of curiosity, what is your umask? | 19:54 |
| BUGabundo | can some bugcontrol member please strip a clear password from bug 335786 | 19:59 |
| BUGabundo | thanks | 19:59 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 335786 in wine "DynamicLibrary::LoadLibrary: Failed to load 'gs3functioninterface.dll'." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/335786 | 19:59 |
| jpds | BUGabundo: Don't see one. | 20:08 |
| BUGabundo | its there | 20:09 |
| BUGabundo | jpds: hggdh already touched it | 20:09 |
| BUGabundo | he just marked it Private | 20:09 |
| BUGabundo | not much we can do | 20:10 |
| jpds | Just change your password. | 20:10 |
| BUGabundo | its not mine | 20:10 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 20:10 |
| BUGabundo | but great sujestion none the less | 20:10 |
| BUGabundo | LOL | 20:10 |
| charlie-tca | I looked and could not find it either | 20:18 |
| greg-g | yeah, it is in the log of the description, should stay private then as the log will always be there | 20:22 |
| charlie-tca | Should have a note put in the description, then, so nobody turns it public | 20:23 |
| charlie-tca | ?? | 20:23 |
| greg-g | yeah, I'll do it real quick | 20:23 |
| greg-g | (done) | 20:26 |
| khunt | hggdh umask? | 20:28 |
| jpds | khunt: Type 'umask' in a terminal. | 20:29 |
| jpds | khunt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umask for info. | 20:30 |
| khunt | 0022 | 20:30 |
| BUGabundo | thanks greg-g charlie-tca | 20:33 |
| BUGabundo | I'll let my brother know about it | 20:33 |
| charlie-tca | no problem | 20:33 |
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| hggdh | khunt, so you run your install script, and the scripts get to be created with permissions 766? | 20:56 |
| hggdh | I think that this (the password showing on the wine debug output) should be a bug in and on itself | 21:00 |
| BUGabundo | hggdh: ehee | 21:46 |
| BUGabundo | if you file it let me know about it | 21:46 |
| hggdh | BUGabundo, I cannot file it -- I do not use wine, and have no idea how to repeat it | 22:24 |
| BUGabundo | hggdh: heeh | 22:33 |
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