[00:17] <kklimonda> bug 367040
[00:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 367040 in aap "Please sync aap (1.090-1) from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/367040
[00:18] <kklimonda> we can't sync applications with debian in stable releases, and fix for #112329 should be backported from mainstream to all supported ubuntu release. right?
[00:19] <hggdh> kklimonda, correct. Depending on the issues, it might be considered for SRU
[00:19] <kklimonda> yeah
[00:19] <kklimonda> it crashes at start
[00:19] <hggdh> always?
[00:19] <kklimonda> when no arguments are passed
[00:20] <kklimonda> when -t is passed
[00:20] <kklimonda> it tries to concatenate string with a tuple
[00:20] <kklimonda> so this bug should be marked as invalid?
[00:21] <hggdh> as far as I can remember, Debian will be automagically sync-ed for Karmic
[00:22] <kklimonda> but a bug to sync it to jaunty (and probably some older releases) is invalid?
[00:22] <kklimonda> a request*
[00:22] <hggdh> but better to ask in #ubuntu-motu
[00:22] <hggdh> yes, it is incorrect to sync to Jaunty
[00:23] <hggdh> s/sync to/sync for/
[00:26] <kklimonda> I'm not sure that fixing 112329 is worth an effort - 1.072 was released 5 years ago..
[00:26] <hggdh> I agree, but this is a decision that is not ours to make... the packager will decide.
[00:27] <kklimonda> also last release was over 2 years ago
[00:28] <kklimonda> sigh, it is using cvs and it returns 404 error..
[00:30] <kklimonda> heh, even if we fix 112329 it won't work
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[02:04] <Ryan52> you do realize that there's chanserv that can tell you that, right?
[03:51] <hggdh> huh?
[05:18] <meoblast001> hi
[05:18] <meoblast001> i think the flash package is broken
[05:58] <Yondering> hola.  I'm not sure if the issue I have could be considered a bug or not, anyone here I can bend an ear for a minute?
[06:46] <leifdk1978> hello
[07:37] <leifdk1978> morning guys
[07:57] <leifdk1978> :)
[08:11] <YoBoY> good morning
[08:11] <leifdk1978> :)
[08:11] <YoBoY> feeling alone leifdk1978 ? :p
[08:12] <leifdk1978> YoBoY: hey a bit :)
[08:12] <leifdk1978> afk a min or 2 need a bath
[08:12] <YoBoY> take your time
[08:20] <leifdk1978> back YoBoY :)
[08:27] <leifdk1978> :)
[08:50] <leifdk1978> back
[08:51] <leifdk1978> :(
[09:05] <leifdk1978> any one here :)
[09:19] <leifdk1978> :(
[09:19] <leifdk1978> well just gota wait
[09:19] <soren> leifdk1978: If you have questions, just ask them.
[09:20] <leifdk1978> need some guiding on bugs is on launcpad and there is a huge amount of bugs and i would like to help but have no idea
[09:52] <leifdk1978> any one wana get me started :)
[09:57] <BUGabundo> guud morning
[09:58] <kklimonda> yawn.. morning.. :)
[09:58] <leifdk1978> morning
[10:00] <leifdk1978> any one got time for a new bug guy
[10:00] <BUGabundo> leifdk1978: shoot
[10:01] <leifdk1978> just how to start on it is brand new  is the bedst way to start removing duplets or
[10:04] <jpds> leifdk1978: I think the best way to start, is to look at the bug pages for your favourite packages and seeing if you can reproduce and confirm the bugs.
[10:04] <leifdk1978> ok thanx
[10:05] <jpds> And of course, ask here if you're unsure of anything.
[10:06] <leifdk1978> ok thanx a lot guys
[11:00] <leifdk1978> how do i set a bug as a wish
[11:01] <BUGabundo> leifdk1978: you only do if you are in bug control team (I think)
[11:01] <leifdk1978> ok lot os wish is put in bugs
[11:02] <BUGabundo> if you don't, usually you just ask here, and hope some one does
[11:02] <leifdk1978> ok
[11:02] <BUGabundo> leifdk1978: ususally some of those are better redirect at brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[11:02] <BUGabundo>  !brainstorm
[11:02] <ubot4> Post your ideas for ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like!
[11:02] <leifdk1978> ok
[11:40] <leifdk1978> hmmm strange 2 bugs have same  number
[11:41] <BUGabundo> leifdk1978: ha?? link ?
[11:42] <leifdk1978> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.has_no_package=&field.has_patch=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.searchtext=java&field.status%3Alist=NEW&orderby=-importance&search=Search&start=300
[11:42] <leifdk1978> 361243
[11:43] <leifdk1978> x4 of same bug
[11:43] <BUGabundo> ehehe
[11:43] <BUGabundo> no just one bug, serveral task
[11:43] <BUGabundo> example a bug can affect kernel and Xorg at the same time
[11:43] <leifdk1978> ahhhhh
[11:44] <kklimonda> I don't like the way LP does it.. for some reason It confuses me ;)
[11:44] <leifdk1978> keeep on searching
[11:44] <leifdk1978> yeah big time
[11:44] <BUGabundo> humm from what I've seen, LP is the best BTS around
[11:45] <kklimonda> Indeed - but there are some rough edges still.
[11:45] <leifdk1978> weee i found a bug i had me self :)
[11:46] <leifdk1978> :) exactly the same
[11:48] <BUGabundo> leifdk1978: if you are going that way, you will end up worse then me, subscriving to over 500 bugs
[11:49] <leifdk1978> ha ha yeah yeah i know
[11:49] <BUGabundo> I hare reviewing new bug queue.... I just keep seeing stuff I have too
[11:49] <leifdk1978> :)
[11:49] <BUGabundo> and then I sub to them all
[11:49] <leifdk1978> ok
[11:51] <kklimonda> does PPA still have 1GB quota?
[11:58] <BUGabundo> dunno
[11:58] <BUGabundo> they can increase it if you ask/need/deserv
[11:59] <kklimonda> Nah, I'm just curious :)
[12:00] <BUGabundo> ohh I was going to ask: "do you deserv?"
[12:00] <BUGabundo> ehe
[12:02] <kklimonda> but playing with package sources is addicting ;)
[12:02] <porthose> kklimonda: the last I heard it was only 1GB per PPA, but know that you can have more than 1 PPA, I'm not sure how it works,
[13:23] <triciens> hi, I'm trying to debug and I don't understand how to Import the debug symbol archive signing key. I'm following the guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[13:25] <MrKanister> triciens: Hi. You open a terminal and run the 3 lines of code starting with "gpg". Just copy and past them one by one.
[13:25] <triciens> MrKanister: thanks
[13:26] <MrKanister> triciens: Your're welcome
[13:41] <triciens> I'm trying to follow these instructions: "And then you attach gdb using "gdb -p $(pidof gnome-display-preferences)" and you can activate logging in gdb using "set logging file gdb.txt" followed by "set logging file on". Finally you just press CTRL-C to break the program and run "bt full" to collect the stack. Then you run "c" to resume execution of the program, wait like 1 second then you press CTRL-C again and repeat "bt full".  But I get "gdb: option 
[13:44] <hggdh> triciens, you got cut off at "But I get
[13:44] <triciens> But I get "gdb: option '-p' requires an argument" in the terminal after I run "gdb -p $(pidof gnome-display-preferences)". Any ideas?
[13:45] <hggdh> is gnome-display-preferences running?
[13:45] <triciens> yes
[13:45] <triciens> oh! it should be gnome-display-properties
[13:46] <hggdh> ah
[13:47] <hggdh> there you go
[13:52] <triciens> "Afterwards, attach the gdb.txt file to this bug report." Where can I find that file?
[13:55] <hggdh> where you ran gdb from
[13:56] <triciens> this is so confusing
[13:59] <hggdh> did you find it?
[14:05] <triciens> no
[14:06] <triciens> this is the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/366757
[14:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 366757 in xorg "Display Preferences causes 100% CPU usage and does not open correctly" [Undecided,New]
[14:06] <hggdh> on the terminal, under which directory were you at?
[14:07] <triciens> (gdb)
[14:07] <hggdh> no, this is already under gdb
[14:08] <hggdh> this is what you see now?
[14:08] <triciens> yes, I see (gdb) now
[14:08] <hggdh> OK, you did not exit gdb. Type 'q' (for 'quit') now
[14:08] <hggdh> and hit enter
[14:09] <triciens> ok, done
[14:09] <hggdh> now look for the file
[14:09] <hggdh> ls gdb.txt
[14:10] <triciens> I'm looking in etc/apt but it's not there
[14:10] <triciens> maybe it didn't get created
[14:10] <hggdh> where were you when you started gdb?
[14:10] <hggdh> under /etc/apt?
[14:11] <triciens> i think so
[14:11] <triciens> I followed the instructions on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/366757
[14:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 366757 in xorg "Display Preferences causes 100% CPU usage and does not open correctly" [Undecided,New]
[14:11] <hggdh> bad idea... your userid does not have the necessary rights to write there
[14:11] <hggdh> 'cd' back home, or 'cd /tmp'
[14:12] <hggdh> and (sorry) try again to get the trace
[14:12] <triciens> ok, I have cd to back home
[14:13] <hggdh> good. Now, get the gdb backtrace again
[14:13] <triciens> is that the "gdb -p $(pidof gnome-display-preferences)  " bit?
[14:14] <hggdh> yes
[14:15] <triciens> ok, I ran  "gdb -p $(pidof gnome-display-preferences) and now I have (gdb) and flashing cursor
[14:17] <e-jat> bug 340408
[14:17] <hggdh> good. now we go back to the instructions: type in 'set logging file gdb.txt', hit enter
[14:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 340408 in medibuntu "[Jaunty] AMR decodec not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/340408
[14:17] <e-jat> anyone know the status ?
[14:17] <hggdh> then 'set logging file on'
[14:17] <hggdh> e-jat, it is still in new
[14:17] <hggdh> triciens, did you get it done so far?
[14:18] <e-jat> hggdh: can u play 3gp file with video + sound ?
[14:18] <hggdh> e-jat, I do not even have medibuntu installed
[14:18] <e-jat> owh ok ..
[14:19] <hggdh> this is a medibuntu bug, *not* Ubuntu
[14:19] <triciens> yes, my PC is running very slowly because this bug is using most of my CPU
[14:19] <hggdh> triciens, OK. Now press Ctrl/C
[14:19] <triciens> i just did    	 	 	 	 	 	   set logging file on
[14:20] <triciens> ok i have pressed ctrl/C
[14:20] <hggdh> OK
[14:21] <hggdh> type in 'bt full', to get the first stacktrace (or BackTrace), and hit enter
[14:21] <triciens> No symbol table info available.
[14:21] <triciens> lots of stuff on screen including No symbol table info available.
[14:22] <hggdh> it is the end -- the backtrace itself -- that we are interested in. If you *did* install the debug packages the bug asked for, it should be good
[14:22] <hggdh> if in doubt, pastebin it here
[14:22] <hggdh> !pastebin
[14:22] <ubot4> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[14:25] <triciens> http://paste.ubuntu.com/158566/
[14:27] <triciens> I still don't know where to find the gdb.txt
[14:28] <hggdh> hold on, your pastebin shows you are still under gdb (and we are not done yet)
[14:29] <triciens> ok
[14:29] <triciens> thanks for the help by the way
[14:30] <hggdh> type in 't a a bt full' (thread apply all backtrace full), and hit enter. Pastebin the output of this command again.
[14:30] <andol> Looking at bug reports on issues related to an 8.10 to 9.04 upgrade. There seems to be an awful lot of those with empty VarLogDistupgradeDATE.gz attached
[14:31] <triciens> http://paste.ubuntu.com/158567/
[14:32] <hggdh> triciens, also: when asked for '---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---', type enter
[14:32] <andol> Take bug #365915 as an example of what I just mention. I see lots of these at least on the bugs related to the server team.
[14:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 365915 in openldap "package slapd 2.4.15-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/365915
[14:32] <hggdh> triciens, until you get back to (gdb)
[14:32] <triciens> done. You want me to pastbin that?
[14:32] <hggdh> triciens, yes, please
[14:33] <hggdh> andol, that is strange
[14:33] <triciens> http://paste.ubuntu.com/158571/
[14:34] <hggdh> triciens, OK. Now please type in 'c' (continue), and hit enter. Wait some few seconds, and CTRL/C
[14:35] <triciens> done
[14:35] <andol> hggdh: Yes, thought so. Want more example? From what I have seen so far it covers pretty much any 8.10 -> 9.04 server bug
[14:35] <hggdh> andol, yes, another example, please
[14:36] <hggdh> triciens, after getting back under the (gdb) prompt, again type in 't a a bt full', and hit enter. Keep hitting enter until back in the (gdb) prompt
[14:36] <triciens> done
[14:37] <hggdh> triciens, OK. now type in 'q' (quit). This will end the gdb run, and put you back under the shell.
[14:38] <triciens> The program is running.  Quit anyway (and detach it)? (y or n)
[14:38] <hggdh> triciens, take the time also to kill gnome-display-properties
[14:38] <hggdh> triciens, type in 'y'
[14:39] <triciens> you want me to 'end process' the gnome-display-preopeties from within System Monitor?
[14:39] <andol> hggdh: bug #367157, bug #366044, bug #365718
[14:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 367157 in squid "package squid 2.7.STABLE3-4.1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/367157
[14:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 366044 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "MySQL upgrade failed when updating to 9.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/366044
[14:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 365718 in postfix "package postfix 2.5.5-1.1 failed to install/upgrade:" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/365718
[14:40] <hggdh> andol, this looks more like apport is not getting the correct files (they all seem to have been apport-collected bugs)
[14:41] <andol> hggdh: agree
[14:42] <triciens> hggdh, I killed it
[14:42] <hggdh> triciens, which process is using all CPU?
[14:42] <hggdh> oh, OK
[14:42] <hggdh> is CPU usage back to normal?
[14:43] <triciens> that's the strange thing hggdh, I killed the process but still the CPU is 100%
[14:43] <hggdh> I thought so, I did not see anything weird in the backtrace
[14:43] <triciens> none of the processes in System Monitor are using much CPU
[14:44] <hggdh> but the CPU is still tagged at 100%?
[14:44] <triciens> Yes, CPU 1 is around 100% and CPU 2 is near 0%. Then they swap over. I say CPU but really I mean 'cores'
[14:45] <hggdh> that's OK. Allright, go back to the terminal you ran gdb from, and type in 'top', and hit enter
[14:45] <triciens> done
[14:46] <triciens> the command that is using 100% is 'Xorg'
[14:46] <hggdh> which programmes are at the top (using a lot of CPU)?
[14:46] <hggdh> good
[14:46] <hggdh> and bad...
[14:47] <triciens> what does that mean?
[14:47] <hggdh> good -- we know which programme is the offending one; bad: it *is* xorg
[14:47] <triciens> lol
[14:48] <hggdh> so your X session, right now, is hosed...
[14:48] <triciens> yes, I find I have to logout then back in to stop the CPU 100%
[14:48] <hggdh> triciens, it only happens when you run g-d-p?
[14:48] <triciens> yeah
[14:49] <triciens> so far
[14:49] <hggdh> ok. Suggestion: *right now*, do NOT run g-d-p ;-)
[14:49] <triciens> I think Ubuntu and ATI HD3870 do not like each other
[14:50] <hggdh> and you will have to end your X session (perhaps reboot) to clean up
[14:50] <triciens> k
[14:50] <triciens> can you update my bug-report?
[14:50] <hggdh> triciens, are you using fglrx?
[14:50] <triciens> what is fglrx?
[14:51] <triciens> oh its the propietary drivers
[14:51] <triciens> yes, I am
[14:51] <hggdh> yes
[14:51] <triciens> the problem only started after I enabled the drivers
[14:51] <triciens> and rebooted
[14:51] <triciens> and ran dg-d-p
[14:51] <triciens> *g-d-p
[14:51] <hggdh> OK. This means you are running code that we (the LInux community) do not have access to
[14:51] <triciens> yeah, that kinda sucks
[14:52] <hggdh> which means *only* ATI can help
[14:52] <hggdh> yes it does. A lot.
[14:52] <hggdh> hold on
[14:52] <triciens> do you know how I can tell ATI?
[14:53] <hggdh> please have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Debugging
[14:53] <triciens> Are nVidia drivers open-source?
[14:53] <triciens> Are ATI likely to release the code for theirs?
[14:53] <hggdh> it lists what has to/should be done in order to gather data for ATI
[14:54] <triciens> ok
[14:54] <hggdh> only ATI can answer that question. I hope they do
[14:54] <hggdh> nVidia are also closed-source
[14:54] <triciens> More and more people are going to buy ATI, because their cards seem better for the price these days
[14:55]  * hggdh also has an ATI board, but stays clear away from ATI drivers
[14:55] <triciens> so you dont game on your PC?
[14:55] <hggdh> laptop. No I do not -- don't usually have time for it, unless it is chess. And chess does not need a lot of graphics ;-)
[14:56] <triciens> ah
[14:56] <triciens> so I wonder why nVidia drivers work well with Linux
[14:56] <triciens> both are closed source
[14:56] <hggdh> because their code sucks less currently
[14:56] <triciens> lol
[14:57] <triciens> I think all the bugs I've got with Ubuntu are caused by ATI drivers
[14:57] <triciens> I guess if your hardware works well, so does Ubuntu
[14:57] <hggdh> well ATI is not the only issue we have, but it does have a larger-than-fair amount of issues
[14:58] <triciens> How good are the ATI devs at releasing fixes, new drivers etc?
[14:58] <hggdh> if the hardware if fully understood by the Linux community, it will tend to work without issues
[14:58] <triciens> do they listen to the community?
[14:59] <hggdh> I do not know... the X guys would know better about ATI. It seems ATI is getting better, but still closed
[14:59] <triciens> ok
[14:59] <triciens> well, thanks for your help
[15:01] <hggdh> welcome
[15:59]  * andol wonders what to do about bug #364811. Apprently the person in question uses a canonical netbook repo, which contains a not entirely updated mysql-server package.
[15:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 364811 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.1 installation failed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364811
[15:59] <andol> While it is not an official ubuntu repo, it is still a Canonical repo...
[16:01] <Bahaa> is 9.04 full of bugs ?
[16:03] <jpds> Bahaa: All software is.
[16:04] <Bahaa> i meant , are they more than what 8.10 has or less ?
[16:04] <jpds> There's no way to accurately measure that.
[16:05] <Bahaa> hmm
[16:05] <Bahaa> already downloaded 9.04 64-bit desktop edition
[16:05] <Bahaa> but you know..
[16:05] <jpds> Old bugs get fixed, new features get added which may have new bugs.
[16:05] <Bahaa> install crashes
[16:07] <Bahaa> so, haven't yet used it somehow
[16:17] <hggdh> andol, good question
[16:18] <andol> hggdh: Anyhow, it seems as if the repo is out a sync. Just talk to a Canonical person about it and hopefully that will clear up the bug.
[16:19] <hggdh> andol, good. I was going to suggest getting hold of a Canonical person... did they tell you how Canonical bugs are dealt with?
[16:20] <andol> hggdh: No, but I'll see if I can get an answer on that too.
[16:26] <andol> hggdh: Got the respons that today is sunday, his day off, etc. Guess we'll have to wait a day or two :)
[16:26] <hggdh> heh
[16:44] <cypher1> isnt bug 346289 duplicate of 314928
[16:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 346289 in ubuntu "Choppy Flash playback in full screen." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/346289
[16:45] <cypher1> bug 314928
[16:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 314928 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i915GM] MTRR entry missing since jaunty - is this intentional?" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/314928
[17:01] <hggdh> cypher1, they seem to be related, but I am not sure they are dupes. At least a comment about 314928 can be added on 346289 stating it may be a dup, and the tag 'likely-dup' added
[17:04] <cypher1> hggdh: thanks i have done that
[17:05] <cypher1> hggdh: what is ubunt-x-swat team ?
[17:05] <hggdh> the group that deals with X
[17:06] <hggdh> we owe them a lot: they take care of X and bugs on it
[17:07] <dtchen> (see also #ubuntu-x)
[17:08] <cypher1> thanks..
[17:09] <cypher1> seems like they have a fix for the mtrr issue in their repository .. if it works out for me i will mention it in the bug too so that people who want to try can do that
[17:10] <hggdh> cypher, good. Please try to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Description
[17:10] <hggdh> since we have a possible workaround
[17:16] <andol> hggdh: Regarding bug #364811. Seems like "Ubuntu Netbook Remix" is a good target to Subscribe :) Also, seems like it is intentional that the repository in question is in a diffrent state than the normal Ubuntu ones.
[17:16] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 364811 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.1 installation failed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364811
[17:17] <hggdh> andol, thank you. Nothing like learning something new on Sundays ;-)
[17:20] <andol> hggdh: Scary isn't it? :) Actually, myself I kind of enjoy spending sunday afternoons doing som bug triage...
[17:52] <andol> Could anyone set the importance of bug #356256 as Wishlist? Unless you think it qualifies as real bug of course.
[17:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 356256 in openldap "dist-upgrade stops slapd" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/356256
[17:57] <charlie-tca> I would be happy to. One question, though. Is it ever safe to upgrade the databases when in use or do they have to be stopped for it?
[17:57] <charlie-tca> If they must be stopped, it is invalid
[17:58] <andol> charlie-tca: That's a really good question :) yet, considering that we have now provide unattended security upgrades which also covers openldap, etc
[17:58] <andol> charlie-tca: I guess I'd say it is relativly safe, depening on how criticial your database is.
[17:59] <Nafallo> andol: can be blacklisted easily
[17:59] <charlie-tca> okay, done
[17:59] <Nafallo> andol: coming to think of that... can you adjust unattended upgrades conf on adder please? ;-)
[17:59] <andol> Nafallo: Yes it can be, but of lot of people who doesn't run really critical database probably doesn't do that.
[18:00] <andol> charlie-tca: thanks
[18:02] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[18:10] <hggdh> this seems really like a legit request -- minimising ldap downtime on upgrades
[18:11] <andol> hggdh: Yes, I kind of agree, but where is the bug? This is after all standard apt/dpkg behavior, isn't it?
[18:13] <andol> hggdh: On the other hand, if you run any serious user auth from openldap, you usually have a slave as well?
[18:13] <hggdh> andol, yes. There are two other points: (1) you do not go through a release upgrade with users logged in; (2)
[18:13] <hggdh> if you have users on your system, you schedule downtime for upgrades
[18:14] <charlie-tca> I those are all valid points, wishlist is correct status, since it will keep the bug around but not make it a "gotta get this done" bug
[18:14] <hggdh> yes
[19:13] <khunt> i am experiencing problems with permissions on executable scripts and launchers
[19:13] <khunt> it seems to be a bug
[19:13] <khunt> if i log in as root and change permissions it goes back to what it was
[19:19] <Ampelbein> khunt: could you elaborate?
[19:21] <khunt> i have some scripts that i use to dial a 3g connection
[19:22] <khunt> since jaunty i can only run them as root
[19:22] <khunt> i start thunar as root and i can run them fine
[19:22] <khunt> change the permissions to allow all read write access
[19:22] <khunt> try running them normally doesnt work
[19:23] <khunt> view permissions and they still only allow root
[19:26] <hggdh> khunt, can you 'ls -l' one such script?
[19:29] <khunt> ok ang on
[19:29] <khunt> so ls -l <script name>
[19:30] <khunt> -rwx---rw- 1 root root 918 2009-04-24 21:45 three3g.sh
[19:31] <khunt> sorry that script is ok
[19:31] <khunt> -rwx------ 1 root root 867 2009-04-24 21:45 t-mobile3g.sh
[19:33] <khunt> for some reason jaunty has altered all the permissions of these files
[19:34] <khunt> that never happened in intrepid and hardy
[19:38] <hggdh> well, both of them are owned by root, and executable by root only
[19:39] <khunt> if a file is copied by sudo does it make it owned by root?
[19:40] <khunt> before i installed jaunty they worked fine and now i can only operate them from a terminal using sudo
[19:40] <kklimonda> yes
[19:41] <khunt> but they were copied using sudo in intrepid
[19:41] <hggdh> yes, the resulting copied file will be owned by root
[19:41] <khunt> you see i have an install script
[19:41] <khunt> that copies the files into a directory created by the script
[19:41] <khunt> i always use the same install script
[19:42] <khunt> which worked fine in older ubuntus but all of a sudden is borked
[19:54] <hggdh> khunt, out of curiosity, what is your umask?
[19:59] <BUGabundo> can some bugcontrol member please strip a clear password from bug 335786
[19:59] <BUGabundo> thanks
[19:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 335786 in wine "DynamicLibrary::LoadLibrary: Failed to load 'gs3functioninterface.dll'." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/335786
[20:08] <jpds> BUGabundo: Don't see one.
[20:09] <BUGabundo> its there
[20:09] <BUGabundo> jpds: hggdh already touched it
[20:09] <BUGabundo> he just marked it Private
[20:10] <BUGabundo> not much we can do
[20:10] <jpds> Just change your password.
[20:10] <BUGabundo> its not mine
[20:10] <BUGabundo> lol
[20:10] <BUGabundo> but great sujestion none the less
[20:10] <BUGabundo> LOL
[20:18] <charlie-tca> I looked and could not find it either
[20:22] <greg-g> yeah, it is in the log of the description, should stay private then as the log will always be there
[20:23] <charlie-tca> Should have a note put in the description, then, so nobody turns it public
[20:23] <charlie-tca> ??
[20:23] <greg-g> yeah, I'll do it real quick
[20:26] <greg-g> (done)
[20:28] <khunt> hggdh umask?
[20:29] <jpds> khunt: Type 'umask' in a terminal.
[20:30] <jpds> khunt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umask for info.
[20:30] <khunt> 0022
[20:33] <BUGabundo> thanks greg-g charlie-tca
[20:33] <BUGabundo> I'll let my brother know about it
[20:33] <charlie-tca> no problem
[20:56] <hggdh> khunt, so you run your install script, and the scripts get to be created with permissions 766?
[21:00] <hggdh> I think that this (the password showing on the wine debug output) should be a bug in and on itself
[21:46] <BUGabundo> hggdh: ehee
[21:46] <BUGabundo> if you file it let me know about it
[22:24] <hggdh> BUGabundo, I cannot file it -- I do not use wine, and have no idea how to repeat it
[22:33] <BUGabundo> hggdh: heeh