[00:05] <Staticwave_Ace> good question, documentation would be really nice
[00:26] <Lossif> is it just an official repository? and I have to get it?
[00:26] <Lossif> if so... umm... how?
[00:27] <Staticwave_Ace> sudo apt-get install mythnettv
[02:33] <squish103> does mythtv 9.04 allow you to install on some kind of lvm?
[02:33] <squish103> opps mythbuntu
[02:34] <Staticwave_Ace> http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-over-lvm-filesystem
[02:34] <Staticwave_Ace> it's not built-in, but it's not hard to do it yourself
[02:34] <Staticwave_Ace> (that's obviously a generic ubuntu howto_
[02:34] <Staticwave_Ace> and, yes, it works, I did it
[02:35] <squish103> ok thanks Staticwave_Ace
[02:35] <squish103> i just screwed up a perfectly working 8.10 that was on lvm2 jfs
[02:36] <Staticwave_Ace> how'd that happen?
[02:36] <squish103> and now have no way to get back my lvm's as it drops me to a shell without booting :(
[02:36] <Staticwave_Ace> squish103: systemrescuecd
[02:36] <squish103> i just clicked upgrade
[02:37] <squish103> boot with the CD 9.04 and do a system rescue?
[02:37] <Staticwave_Ace> well that
[02:37] <Staticwave_Ace> or use systemrescuecd
[02:37] <Staticwave_Ace> it's a distro for rescuing systems
[02:37] <Staticwave_Ace> an ubuntu livecd could help
[02:37] <Staticwave_Ace> though I usually do repairs via commandline
[02:37] <squish103> ok i'll go try find it... when it comes to lvm's... if i don't have a how-to i have no clue... it is alittle above e
[02:38] <Staticwave_Ace> hopefully they're still there
[02:38] <Staticwave_Ace> you'll need to apt-get install lvm2 on the livecd after booting
[02:38] <Staticwave_Ace> to do anything useful
[02:38] <squish103> yes i did that and then i did a pvscan and lvscan or something, and i could see them listed
[02:39] <squish103> so i guess i somehow have to get them mounted and lvm2 installed in there... actually i have no idea what to do :(
[02:39] <Staticwave_Ace> chroot
[02:39] <squish103> ok so something along the lines of
[02:40] <squish103> boot livecd
[02:40] <squish103> apt-get install lvm2
[02:40] <squish103> mkdir /mnt/oldroot
[02:40] <squish103> mount it
[02:40] <squish103> then chroot into it
[02:40] <squish103> then apt-get install lvm2 again
[02:41] <Staticwave_Ace> yup
[02:41] <Staticwave_Ace> hopefully
[02:41] <squish103> and try figure it out from there
[02:41] <Staticwave_Ace> oh
[02:41] <Staticwave_Ace> you need to mount your /boot inside /mnt/oldroot
[02:41] <Staticwave_Ace> since lvm2 will want to regen your initramfs
[02:41] <Staticwave_Ace> which is very important
[02:41] <squish103> ok, and i probably have to initr...
[02:42] <squish103> ok thanks for the help
[02:42] <squish103> next time i am only going to use supported fs's out of the box
[02:42] <Staticwave_Ace> ext4 :)
[02:43] <squish103> although lvm2 with jfs has worked quite nicely
[02:57] <Technophil> Hi, I have run up 9.04, I find on re-booting the mythbuntu logo displays, the traveler completes then the screen turns off....
[02:58] <Technophil> Can anyone suggest what I need to do from here?
[02:59] <Technophil> Box is a 3G Pentum Dup, NVIDIA 8500, 500T Tuner card
[03:16] <Technophil> I can ssh in and top says not much happening
[04:03] <superm1> henrik_, what's up with the latest weekly and pulse?
[04:03] <superm1> i know upstream made some changes to pulse support. what do we need to do to comply?
[04:04] <superm1> i thought just building without pulseaudio as a build depends was actually sufficient as the code checking for running pulseaudio wont do anything
[04:34] <Technophil> OK if it helps anyone the problem seemed to be that I selected NVIDIA component on the setup display, I think this does not configure properly and that was where the display was being sent!  Reinstalling using the default NVIDIA and no TV out installed as expected.
[04:36] <Technophil> I also report the previous About Menu Item has somehow now got to do with xubuntu, which seems an error that somehow slipped in to the latest build...
[05:08] <henrik_> superm1: this is what I get when I try to run the frontend, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1137410
[05:47] <superm1> henrik_, ah i see. so it sounds like we need to add a new conf flag to our build then
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[05:52] <wolf_> Hi, is having the bottum and top panels not dissapear when openeing mythbuntu a common issue in 9.04?
[05:54] <superm1> wolf_, it is on gnome (which doesnt ship with mythbuntu by default)
[05:55] <superm1> generally turning off compiz can take care of it
[05:56] <superm1> henrik_, it looks like it should likely just be a two line diff and rebuild to fix the pulse thing
[05:57] <superm1> henrik_, but there is a big worry i have - it might ADD a dependency on pulseaudio
[05:57] <superm1> which I *really* don't want...
[05:59] <hads> Yeah, that changeset looked like it needed the headers to compile against.
[05:59] <superm1> well build dependency is fine, but if it has to link to something in pulse audio
[06:00] <hads> Kinda funny depending on pulse to get rid of it :)
[06:00] <superm1> and require you to have it installed on the resultant system..
[06:00] <superm1> but i'm thinking it might just add a dependency on libpulse0 rather than pulseaudio itself
[06:00] <hads> Yeah
[06:10] <wolf_> disabling compiz is kind of a big deal is there no other work around?
[06:11] <henrik_> superm1: perfect, I know it's not ideal, one other solution could be to remove pulseaudio compleatly from this project.
[06:11] <henrik_> However I'm not sure if that would be appriciated by Ubuntu.
[06:25] <hads> wolf_: Figure out what causes mythtv and compiz to not like each other and patch it is the alternative.
[06:26] <wolf_> hads, problem never happened in 8.10 so it must be a change in mythbuntu.
[06:45] <ludmilmm> hi. just installed 9.04. fresh install. i have put a video file, and then in video settings i want to apply the metadata. when i open the video setup, it opens a box asking for imdb#, but i can not enter there anything, neither with the remote, nor with the keyboard. any idea whats wrong and how to deal with it?
[08:05] <Brondoman> Has anyone successfully used a Kworld 330U (dual ATSC and Analog) USB tuner?  The em28xx driver works (from the mercurial repository) for analog but not digital.
[08:28] <foxbuntu> Brondoman, have you checked the mythtv wiki for what is or isnt supported yet with that card?
[08:32] <Brondoman> Yup.  that's how I found out to try the one in the repository.  Chased down a few mailing list posts after that and they listed a patch that should have been in the repository but it wasn't (or I pulled the wrong tag).
[08:33] <foxbuntu> Brondoman, are you trying to tune to clear QAM in the US by chance?
[08:34] <foxbuntu> on the digital side
[08:36] <Brondoman> nope.  DVB-T in the US
[08:37] <foxbuntu> so, OTA ATSC then?
[08:47] <Guest26013> Hi anybody want to help with me getting a lightblue screen for the menus, and a dark blue for video.. http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f55c88906
[08:48] <Guest26013> ALso is since upgrading to Jaunty today (It was fine beforehand)
[08:54] <foxbuntu`> Brondoman, sorry about that, power went out for a moment, still trying to get everything back online
[09:07]  * hads hands foxbuntu a UPS
[09:07] <foxbuntu> hads, great..thanks that helps now the that power is back on
[09:07] <foxbuntu> ;)
[09:09] <foxbuntu> h a d s = helpful  and delightful servant right?
[09:12] <foxbuntu> hads, ^
[09:12] <Brondoman> hehe
[09:14]  * foxbuntu really should get a UPS, and something to backup his data to :)
[09:30] <hads> foxbuntu: And you were the one going on about hardware RAID, tsk tsk :)
[09:34] <foxbuntu> hads, I had RAID
[09:34] <foxbuntu> I need a backup solution
[09:34] <foxbuntu> heh
[09:34] <foxbuntu> hads, I have hardware RAID*
[09:35] <hads> I think I'd worry about backups and UPS before I worried about hardware vs software RAID :)
[09:35] <foxbuntu> hads, its on a real server, HP DL380
[09:35] <foxbuntu> so hardware RAID is there
[09:35] <foxbuntu> should I not use it and use software RAID instead?
[09:35] <foxbuntu> :P
[09:36] <hads> Meh, real
[09:36] <hads> :)
[09:38] <foxbuntu> lmao
[09:38] <foxbuntu> Im playing CoD4 online and people are all freaking out because I am glitching the map
[10:09] <Slavox> foxbuntu: you naughty devil
[10:10] <foxbuntu> Slavox, heh...I know its lame, but its entertaining at 4A
[10:10] <Slavox> Yeah I grief in TF2 sometimes (On the achivement servers)
[10:10] <Slavox> But I hate people who glitch seriously on CoD4
[10:11] <Slavox> Like scrollers :/
[10:11] <Slavox> Fun is fun but some days I just wanna play :P
[13:58] <MythbuntuGuest67> Hello.  I'm having a problem with the audio on ripped DVDs.  It's this chattery/staticy/clicky sound.  Audio on everything else is fine, to include the audio on conventional DVD playback.
[14:28] <ajross> hello everyone
[14:29] <ajross> I was wondering if anyone would be willing to steer me in the right direction in getting freesat working with my nova-hd-s2 card?
[14:30] <ajross> i've tried everything i can think of to get a channels.conf or a sucessful scan but it won't work
[14:30] <ajross> im running mythbuntu 9.04 with an nvidia-glx-180 driver
[14:46] <MythbuntuGuest17> hallo und guten tag, ich kann leider nur in deutsch schreiben und habe seit dem update von mythbuntu 8.10 auf 9.04 ein kleines problem. kann mir jemand helfen ?
[15:04] <tafkaz_73> hi there, i am sure this question has been asked quite a few times before here, but has anyone yet tried to update his mythtv-box to 9.04
[15:04] <tafkaz_73> did it work? what are the problems i may have to expect?
[15:16] <ajross> anyone any idea how to solve this?
[15:16] <ajross> >>> tune to: 10758:v:0:22000
[15:16] <ajross> DVB-S IF freq is 1008000
[15:16] <ajross> WARNING: filter timeout pid 0x0011
[15:16] <ajross> WARNING: filter timeout pid 0x0000
[17:46] <BerryMarmalade2> hi, after 9.04 upgrade i can view recordings but if i click one the remote frontend say that it can't find the record file
[17:47] <tafkaz_73> hm
[17:47] <tafkaz_73> thats odd
[17:48] <BerryMarmalade2> how can i do?
[17:49] <BerryMarmalade2> i dont' know how the windows frontend can open the files, it's a samba problem'
[17:49] <BerryMarmalade2> ?
[17:52] <tafkaz_73> hm your frontend and your backend are different machines?
[17:54] <tafkaz_73> is the network connection established?
[17:54] <tafkaz_73> can you watch tv from the remote frontend?
[17:55] <tafkaz_73> livetv i mean
[18:05] <BerryMarmalade2> tafkaz_73: hi, i have a linux min backand and a windows frontend
[18:06] <tafkaz_73> oh i see. well i am absolutely not familiar with win frontends
[18:06] <tafkaz_73> sorry, but i dont think i can help then
[18:06] <BerryMarmalade2> tafkaz_73: ok
[19:40] <mac9416> Alright, I installed Mythtv on my Ubuntu box and typed "mythtv-setup" as I was instructed during installation.
[19:40] <mac9416> I got a "cannot login to database" error.
[19:41] <mac9416> Any ideas?
[19:43] <Shadow__X> mac9416, goto /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt and try and login to mysql using that info
[19:44] <mac9416> Shadow__X, You're everywhere! OK, will do.
[19:44] <Shadow__X> no i just try and help out in some areas i know alittle bit about
[19:49] <mac9416> Shadow__X, And I thank you for it. OK I tried "mysql -u mythtv -p <Whatever it was> -h localhost" and got an access denied.
[19:50] <Shadow__X> dont use -h localhost just do mysql -u mythtv and -p<>
[19:50] <mac9416> OK...
[19:52] <mac9416> Second verse, same as the first I'm afraid.
[19:52] <mac9416> It seemed to assume localhost anyway.
[19:55] <mac9416> I can get into the mysql shell if I just drop all args. I don't know if that helps.
[20:05] <mac9416> Well, I think I may just try Mythbuntu as soon a shipit is back up.
[20:05] <Shadow__X> why not dl it
[20:08] <mac9416> I'm using Verizon broadband wirless. 5GB/month cap. It's been 7 days and I've already hit 1100Megs. :-D
[20:08] <mac9416> Yeah, I hate to use Canonical's money, but things are difficult otherwise.
[20:09] <Shadow__X> mac9416, i think after you hit the cap they throttle you
[20:10] <mac9416> Throttle? You mean charge extra? Or just slow me down.
[20:10] <Shadow__X> slow you down but dont quote me on that
[20:11] <mac9416> OK, I'll check into that. Yeah, I could just time the download for the last few hours of the month.
[20:15] <mac9416> Is there any other good tv-recording software I can use until I get Mythbuntu?
[20:16] <Shadow__X> the only one i used extensively is mythtv
[20:16] <Shadow__X> you should be able to easily setup ubuntu to use mythtv but other than that dont know
[20:18] <mac9416> Well, I installed the debs, and mythtv-frontend appears in Applications, but during setup, it can't get into the datadase.
[20:19] <mac9416> (Wow, I think I put in too many commas) :P
[20:20] <Shadow__X> wait did you install mythtv-backend and mysql
[20:20] <Shadow__X> and what debs are you talking about why didnt you use repos
[20:21] <mac9416> Yeah I installed both. I used Keryx to download the debs because my Linux box has no Internet connection. I hate that, but it is what it is.
[20:22] <Shadow__X> keryx?
[20:22] <mac9416> :P I'm so poor, I can't 'ford no internet connection. :P
[20:22] <Shadow__X> oh
[20:22] <mac9416> Yeah, it gets dependencies for you.
[20:22] <Shadow__X> but you have the wireless
[20:22] <Shadow__X> thats not cheap
[20:22] <mac9416> keryxproject.org
[20:23] <mac9416> No, I'm just kidding about that.
[20:23] <mac9416> I have wireless for the laptop, but none of the desktops.
[20:24] <mac9416> Yeah, I think Mythbuntu will be the key. All the setup done for me.
[20:24] <mac9416> I may just buy the CD if it comes to that.
[20:26] <Shadow__X> hmm i guess i mean its not like its hard to setup really
[20:26] <Shadow__X> go onto the ubuntu box and reconfigure mysql
[20:27] <mac9416> I don't have any experience with mysql, I'm afraid, so I'm not sure how to go about that.
[20:28] <Shadow__X> alright h/o i am rebooting
[20:35] <Shadow__X> back
[20:35] <mac9416> Yo.
[20:36] <Shadow__X> mac9416, go into synaptic find mysql server and right click it and choose reconfigure
[20:36] <mac9416> OK...
[20:42] <mac9416> Well, neither Synaptic nor dpkg-reconfigure believe that mysql is even installed. OK, I'll try installing it again.
[20:43] <mac9416> What's the name of the package? 'mysql'?
[20:43] <mac9416> I installed mysql-server.
[20:45] <mac9416> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-mysql-server-5-on-ubuntu/
[20:45] <mac9416> Apparenly all I have to have is mysql-server. I'll reconfig that...
[20:45] <Shadow__X> yeah that could be why mythtv is yelling about mysql
[20:45] <Shadow__X> ;)
[21:00] <mac9416> Haha, I think not. Apparently there is no 'mysql' package. It seems that 'mysql-server' does the job. Does your Synaptic have a 'mysql' package?
[21:01] <mac9416> I tried right-clicking mysql-server to click reconfigure, but that option was not there.
[21:06] <Shadow__X> mark for reinstallation
[21:06] <Shadow__X> and do mysql-server not mysql
[21:06] <mac9416> OK, will do.
[21:31] <mac9416> Well, reinstallation didn't help.
[21:34] <Shadow__X> what did it do
[21:34] <Shadow__X> also try mysql -u root
[21:34] <Shadow__X> wait hold on you dont have internet on the myth box?
[21:34] <Shadow__X> what are you going to be using this for
[21:35] <mac9416> Nope. Recording off a VHS. :P
[21:36] <mac9416> It just went through the reinstallation process. No reconfiguration, no nothing.
[21:36] <Shadow__X> off vhs huh
[21:36] <Shadow__X> lol
[21:37] <mac9416> Now, what am I trying to accomplish with 'mysql -u' etc.
[21:37] <Shadow__X> i dont know if mythtv is wright for that
[21:37] <mac9416> Yeah, Indiana Jones.
[21:37] <Shadow__X> write*
[21:37] <mac9416> *right?
[21:37] <Shadow__X> mysqpl -u root would be to log into the database from terminal
[21:37] <mac9416> Well, I think I can already do that.
[21:37] <Shadow__X> yeah right* i guss i am off today
[21:37] <Shadow__X> hmm ok
[21:38] <mac9416> If I just type 'mysql' I get "mysql>"
[21:38] <mac9416> A prompt.
[21:39] <mac9416> Well, it does ask my password.
[21:39] <mac9416> But I just entered it.
[21:40] <Shadow__X> hmm
[21:40] <Shadow__X> alright now we can fix stuff
[21:40] <mac9416> Cool
[21:42] <Shadow__X> you need to create the mythtv user
[21:42] <Shadow__X> from the mysql promt
[21:42] <Shadow__X> type this
[21:43] <Shadow__X> mysql> INSERT INTO user (Host,User,Password) VALUES('%','username',PASSWORD('password'));
[21:45] <mac9416> It looks a bit scary. Could you assume some things (maybe replace them with "example")?
[21:45] <mac9416> Or just break it down for me.
[21:47] <Shadow__X> sure insert that user  into users so replace 'username'
[21:47] <Shadow__X> anbd replace 'password'
[21:48] <Shadow__X> also replace 'password' with the password mythtv will use to access its database
[21:49] <mac9416> "mysql> INSERT INTO user (localhost,mac9416,pswd) VALUES('%','mac9416',PASSWORD('pswd'))"
[21:49] <mac9416> Will that get it?
[21:50] <mac9416> Or should I use user 'mythtv' and password 'llhv9' (or something like that)?
[21:50] <mac9416> The stuff in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt.
[21:51] <Shadow__X> i would use mythtv and the pass that mysql.txt used just for documentation sake and to remember it
[21:52] <mac9416> OK, then "mysql> INSERT INTO user (localhost,mythtv,llhv9) VALUES('%','mythtv',PASSWORD('llhv9'))"
[21:52] <mac9416> Will that work?
[21:52] <mac9416> It's a confusing line.
[21:53] <Shadow__X> i am not quite sure at the moment
[21:53] <mac9416> OK, I'll give it a whirl...
[21:53] <Shadow__X> or
[21:54] <Shadow__X> Adding a Database User with Password
[21:54] <Shadow__X> 	mysql> grant all privileges on [databasename].* to [dbusername]@localhost
[21:54] <Shadow__X> 	identified by '[dbpassword]';
[21:54] <Shadow__X> 	Example:  grant all privileges on mydatabase.* to joeuser@localhost
[21:54] <Shadow__X> 	identified by 'supersecretpasswd';
[21:54] <Shadow__X> damn it i should of pastebined it
[21:54] <Zinn> Shadow__X: Please watch your language.
[21:54] <Shadow__X> ok
[21:55] <mac9416> mysql> grant all privileges on mythtv.* to mythtv@localhost
[21:55] <mac9416> ?
[21:57] <mac9416> It looks good exept [databasename] which I'm not sure about.
[21:58] <Shadow__X> for this kind of stuff you can hop back in mythtv they know more about mysql commands than i do
[21:58] <Shadow__X> or
[21:58] <Shadow__X> you could look at mythtv.org that should have some mysql info
[21:59] <Shadow__X> http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html
[22:30] <hads> Yeah, mythtv isn't really the right thing to use to record off a VHS.
[22:30] <hads> And there is much easier ways to setup mythtv in Ubuntu.
[22:30] <hads> !database
[22:30] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about database
[22:30] <hads> !mysql
[22:30] <Zinn> If you are having problems connecting to your mysql database, you can perform the following to reconfigure it: 1. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0 (pay attention to the root password you set, you will need it for the next step) 2. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database 3. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common
[22:31] <BenB> 9.04 already ships with the broken mythfrondend which willfully and stupidly breaks pulseaudio?
[22:32] <hads> Don't think so.
[22:32] <BenB> ah, ok, good.
[22:32] <hads> If that was a question.
[22:32] <BenB> yes, it was
[22:32] <hads> :)
[22:32] <BenB> somebody just said that he ran into that problem after upgrading to 9.04.
[22:32] <hads> Putting question marks on the end of sentances makes them look funny?
[22:33] <hads> I hear it's slipped into the weekly build.
[22:33] <styelz> yes?
[22:33] <hads> But should be fixed soon enough
[22:34] <mac9416> OK, got distracted there for a minute. I'll look at that howto, then try what Zinn suggested.
[22:36] <BenB> hads: yes, it 's a form of sarcastic irony and therefore can be considered funny, depending on viewpoint, but in my case, it was actually a question.
[22:36] <BenB> the "stupid" was a statement, the "ships" was a question,.
[22:36] <BenB> :-)
[22:37] <mac9416> The HOWTO says:
[22:37] <mac9416> cd database
[22:37] <mac9416> mysql < mc.sql
[22:37] <mac9416> I'm not sure where to cd database from.
[22:37] <mac9416> So, I'll try what Zinn said.
[22:37] <superm1> on ubuntu the database is built for you using mythtv-database and mythtv-common
[22:37] <superm1> just follow !mysql
[22:37] <BenB> mac9416: the toturial means the source code directory.
[22:38] <mac9416> Oh, so only if I compile it myself?
[22:38] <superm1> BenB, there was a patch to -fixes that came after 9.04 that broke things
[22:38] <superm1> BenB, it should be taken care of though in today's weekly build
[22:38] <superm1> (wrg to pulse)
[22:38] <mac9416> I haven't upgraded yet, so I'm good.
[22:38] <superm1> well 9.04 itself is fine
[22:38] <superm1> it's just if you use weekly builds
[22:39] <mac9416> OK.
[22:42] <BenB> superm1: "taken care of" in the sense of undoing the patch?
[22:44] <BenB> for the record, pulse works fine here on (stock) ubuntu 8.04 with the mythtv packages.
[22:44] <Shadow__X> but also mac9416 mythtv isnt really for recording from vhs
[22:45] <mac9416> Shadow__X, Zinn, ya'll rock. The reconfigurations worked and now I can get to the main Mythtv screen! Unfortunately, when I go to "Watch TV" and hit enter the screen just blinks and that's all.
[22:45] <Shadow__X> mac9416, did you setup a tuner
[22:45] <mac9416> Shadow__X, well if it even just works a little, that will be good.
[22:45] <mac9416> No, I don't know how.
[22:46] <Shadow__X> thats why live tv doesnt work
[22:46] <BenB> mac9416: follow the tutorial further.
[22:46] <mac9416> Maybe ;-)
[22:46] <BenB> mac9416: it explains that
[22:46] <Shadow__X> yup
[22:46] <Shadow__X> like go get some tuners or do crazy firewire
[22:47] <mac9416> Okee-dokee, thanks! Shadow__X has been with me, what 3 hours! Thanks a lot
[22:47] <mac9416> !
[22:47] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about
[22:47] <Shadow__X> yeah its cool we have all been there
[22:47] <Shadow__X> i am just glad i  can help somewhat
[22:47] <mac9416> Thanks to Zinn also
[22:52] <Shadow__X> zinn is a bot
[22:52] <Shadow__X> !help
[22:52] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[22:52] <Shadow__X> !status
[22:52] <Zinn> I am alive.
[22:54] <mac9416> Dadgum, he had me fooled! Thanks hads!
[22:54] <mac9416> !mysql
[22:54] <Zinn> If you are having problems connecting to your mysql database, you can perform the following to reconfigure it: 1. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0 (pay attention to the root password you set, you will need it for the next step) 2. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database 3. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common
[22:54] <mac9416> :P
[22:54] <superm1> BenB, no, it now depends on libpulse0 and can disable pulseaudio as necessary
[22:56] <BenB> superm1: will there be a user-friendly way to let mythtv *use* pulse (via native API or alsa emulation), as it was possible in 8.04?
[22:56] <hads> There's an environment variable you can set I think.
[22:56] <BenB> cause that worked fine here, and pulse is really cool. *esp* on the myth frontend, which has nice speakers, which I use for music form my other parts of the house, i.e. I *need* pulse.
[22:57] <superm1> BenB, you'll need to ask in #mythtv about behaviors with it. i think you can still use alsa emulation with this latest patch
[22:57] <BenB> ok
[22:57] <superm1> i've not actually experimented with it myself yet
[22:57] <superm1> er maybe #mythtv-users
[22:57] <superm1> thats a better start
[22:57] <hads> Yeah, I was using pulse successfully too.
[22:58] <BenB> I'd rather not go to #mythtv, or I'll hit danielk who created the patch, and I'll use the worst kinds of insults towards him :)
[22:58] <hads> Just be nicer.
[22:58] <hads> And do make sure it's #mythtv-users
[22:58] <BenB> nah, when I see such arrogant ignorance, I can't be nice anymore :/
[22:58] <hads> Well that's your problem then.
[22:58] <Shadow__X> mac9416, so any other questions
[22:58] <BenB> that's why I rather avoid the confrontation and leave it to others who have better developed social skills :)
[22:59] <hads> heh
[22:59] <hads> At least you're honest :)
[23:01] <mac9416> Shadow__X, yeah, I ran mythtv-setup, and added my capture card, but I still can't enter "Watch TV"
[23:01] <Shadow__X> you didnt scan
[23:01] <Shadow__X> it knows theres a tuner but doesnt know what to tune
[23:02] <mac9416> Waaaait, that's for TV. I want the Composite(2).
[23:04] <mac9416> Do I still have to scan?
[23:05] <superm1> you have to attach a tv source
[23:05] <superm1> eg somewhere guide data comes from
[23:06] <hads> Are you just trying to digitise some old VHS tapes?
[23:06] <mac9416> Yeah, old-school, retro VHSs.
[23:06] <hads> If you happen to have a PVR-150 or somesuch then you can just cat /dev/video0 > my_movie.mpg
[23:06] <mac9416> I don't even want to watch TV.
[23:07] <hads> Honestly, it's a bit of a waste of time using myth just for that.
[23:07] <mac9416> Heavens! had I known that...
[23:07] <mac9416> Well, I plan to do some editing too.
[23:08] <mac9416> So, cat /dev/video0 > my_movie.mpg? And I can play that with Xine?
[23:09] <hads> Are you using a PVR-150?
[23:09] <mac9416> No, ATI TV-Wonder 200. And I hate it.
[23:09] <mac9416> But, it's what I've got.
[23:10] <hads> Then quite possibly not, no.
[23:10] <hads> So don't feel so bad :)
[23:10] <mac9416> No, I know I have a /dev/video0
[23:10] <mac9416> If that's all that's required...
[23:10] <hads> It's not.
[23:11] <mac9416> Drato.
[23:11] <hads> The PVR-150 etc. output MPEG files which is why you can do that.
[23:11] <mac9416> So, how can I get Mythtv to play it?
[23:11] <mac9416> (I need to get a PVR)
[23:12] <hads> Pass, I don't know anything about that card but if it's supported under Linux then the normal myth setup should work.
[23:15] <mac9416> I thought I already did the normal setup in mythtv-setup. Is there something else I have to configure?
[23:16] <Shadow__X> try cating it
[23:16] <mac9416> OK, can't hurt.
[23:21] <mac9416> cat: Input/Output error.
[23:23] <Shadow__X> where you playing the tape
[23:24] <mac9416> Yup. (Raiders of the Lost Ark) :-D
[23:24] <mac9416> No luck.
[23:26] <Shadow__X> /dev/video0 is there right
[23:26] <Shadow__X> nvm
[23:26] <mac9416> Yup.
[23:26] <Shadow__X> make the vcr is plugged in
[23:27] <mac9416> Yup.
[23:27] <mac9416> Y'know, I had it playing in TVTime, but it stopped. Maybe a reboot is in order...
[23:30] <Shadow__X> unless you did something normally reboots arent needed in linux all the time
[23:30] <mac9416> True...
[23:33] <Shadow__X> does tvtime work now
[23:33] <Shadow__X> ?
[23:33] <mac9416> Nope, 'fraid not.
[23:34] <Shadow__X> what does it say
[23:34] <mac9416> Nothing. No errors, just a blue screen.
[23:35] <Shadow__X> hmm when it was working what happened for it to stop
[23:36] <mac9416> Well, I installed 'dvr' thinking I'd give it a try.
[23:36] <Shadow__X> hmm did you run it lol oh wait
[23:36] <Shadow__X> is myth-backend running
[23:36] <mac9416> Probably.
[23:37] <mac9416> Kill it?
[23:37] <Shadow__X> yes either kill it or delete where you configured setup to use your tuner
[23:39] <mac9416> No good killing it. Where's that config file?
[23:39] <Shadow__X> what do you mean no good killing it
[23:40] <mac9416> It didn't help.
[23:42] <Shadow__X> you killed the backend? and it still doesnt help
[23:43] <mac9416> Nope. No good.
[23:43] <Lossif> is there a tutorial on how to set up mythnettv on mythbuntu 9.04?
[23:51] <mac9416> Shadow__X, I'll just play arround with it tonight. It's probably very simple.
[23:51] <Shadow__X> yeah most likely