[00:05] good question, documentation would be really nice [00:26] is it just an official repository? and I have to get it? [00:26] if so... umm... how? [00:27] sudo apt-get install mythnettv [02:33] does mythtv 9.04 allow you to install on some kind of lvm? [02:33] opps mythbuntu [02:34] http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-over-lvm-filesystem [02:34] it's not built-in, but it's not hard to do it yourself [02:34] (that's obviously a generic ubuntu howto_ [02:34] and, yes, it works, I did it [02:35] ok thanks Staticwave_Ace [02:35] i just screwed up a perfectly working 8.10 that was on lvm2 jfs [02:36] how'd that happen? [02:36] and now have no way to get back my lvm's as it drops me to a shell without booting :( [02:36] squish103: systemrescuecd [02:36] i just clicked upgrade [02:37] boot with the CD 9.04 and do a system rescue? [02:37] well that [02:37] or use systemrescuecd [02:37] it's a distro for rescuing systems [02:37] an ubuntu livecd could help [02:37] though I usually do repairs via commandline [02:37] ok i'll go try find it... when it comes to lvm's... if i don't have a how-to i have no clue... it is alittle above e [02:38] hopefully they're still there [02:38] you'll need to apt-get install lvm2 on the livecd after booting [02:38] to do anything useful [02:38] yes i did that and then i did a pvscan and lvscan or something, and i could see them listed [02:39] so i guess i somehow have to get them mounted and lvm2 installed in there... actually i have no idea what to do :( [02:39] chroot [02:39] ok so something along the lines of [02:40] boot livecd [02:40] apt-get install lvm2 [02:40] mkdir /mnt/oldroot [02:40] mount it [02:40] then chroot into it [02:40] then apt-get install lvm2 again [02:41] yup [02:41] hopefully [02:41] and try figure it out from there [02:41] oh [02:41] you need to mount your /boot inside /mnt/oldroot [02:41] since lvm2 will want to regen your initramfs [02:41] which is very important [02:41] ok, and i probably have to initr... [02:42] ok thanks for the help [02:42] next time i am only going to use supported fs's out of the box [02:42] ext4 :) [02:43] although lvm2 with jfs has worked quite nicely [02:57] Hi, I have run up 9.04, I find on re-booting the mythbuntu logo displays, the traveler completes then the screen turns off.... [02:58] Can anyone suggest what I need to do from here? [02:59] Box is a 3G Pentum Dup, NVIDIA 8500, 500T Tuner card [03:16] I can ssh in and top says not much happening [04:03] henrik_, what's up with the latest weekly and pulse? [04:03] i know upstream made some changes to pulse support. what do we need to do to comply? [04:04] i thought just building without pulseaudio as a build depends was actually sufficient as the code checking for running pulseaudio wont do anything [04:34] OK if it helps anyone the problem seemed to be that I selected NVIDIA component on the setup display, I think this does not configure properly and that was where the display was being sent! Reinstalling using the default NVIDIA and no TV out installed as expected. [04:36] I also report the previous About Menu Item has somehow now got to do with xubuntu, which seems an error that somehow slipped in to the latest build... [05:08] superm1: this is what I get when I try to run the frontend, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1137410 [05:47] henrik_, ah i see. so it sounds like we need to add a new conf flag to our build then [05:47] [05:52] Hi, is having the bottum and top panels not dissapear when openeing mythbuntu a common issue in 9.04? [05:54] wolf_, it is on gnome (which doesnt ship with mythbuntu by default) [05:55] generally turning off compiz can take care of it [05:56] henrik_, it looks like it should likely just be a two line diff and rebuild to fix the pulse thing [05:57] henrik_, but there is a big worry i have - it might ADD a dependency on pulseaudio [05:57] which I *really* don't want... [05:59] Yeah, that changeset looked like it needed the headers to compile against. [05:59] well build dependency is fine, but if it has to link to something in pulse audio [06:00] Kinda funny depending on pulse to get rid of it :) [06:00] and require you to have it installed on the resultant system.. [06:00] but i'm thinking it might just add a dependency on libpulse0 rather than pulseaudio itself [06:00] Yeah [06:10] disabling compiz is kind of a big deal is there no other work around? [06:11] superm1: perfect, I know it's not ideal, one other solution could be to remove pulseaudio compleatly from this project. [06:11] However I'm not sure if that would be appriciated by Ubuntu. [06:25] wolf_: Figure out what causes mythtv and compiz to not like each other and patch it is the alternative. [06:26] hads, problem never happened in 8.10 so it must be a change in mythbuntu. [06:45] hi. just installed 9.04. fresh install. i have put a video file, and then in video settings i want to apply the metadata. when i open the video setup, it opens a box asking for imdb#, but i can not enter there anything, neither with the remote, nor with the keyboard. any idea whats wrong and how to deal with it? [08:05] Has anyone successfully used a Kworld 330U (dual ATSC and Analog) USB tuner? The em28xx driver works (from the mercurial repository) for analog but not digital. [08:28] Brondoman, have you checked the mythtv wiki for what is or isnt supported yet with that card? [08:32] Yup. that's how I found out to try the one in the repository. Chased down a few mailing list posts after that and they listed a patch that should have been in the repository but it wasn't (or I pulled the wrong tag). [08:33] Brondoman, are you trying to tune to clear QAM in the US by chance? [08:34] on the digital side [08:36] nope. DVB-T in the US [08:37] so, OTA ATSC then? [08:47] Hi anybody want to help with me getting a lightblue screen for the menus, and a dark blue for video.. http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f55c88906 [08:48] ALso is since upgrading to Jaunty today (It was fine beforehand) === Guest26013 is now known as Slavox [08:54] Brondoman, sorry about that, power went out for a moment, still trying to get everything back online === foxbuntu` is now known as foxbuntu [09:07] * hads hands foxbuntu a UPS [09:07] hads, great..thanks that helps now the that power is back on [09:07] ;) [09:09] h a d s = helpful and delightful servant right? [09:12] hads, ^ [09:12] hehe [09:14] * foxbuntu really should get a UPS, and something to backup his data to :) [09:30] foxbuntu: And you were the one going on about hardware RAID, tsk tsk :) [09:34] hads, I had RAID [09:34] I need a backup solution [09:34] heh [09:34] hads, I have hardware RAID* [09:35] I think I'd worry about backups and UPS before I worried about hardware vs software RAID :) [09:35] hads, its on a real server, HP DL380 [09:35] so hardware RAID is there [09:35] should I not use it and use software RAID instead? [09:35] :P [09:36] Meh, real [09:36] :) [09:38] lmao [09:38] Im playing CoD4 online and people are all freaking out because I am glitching the map [10:09] foxbuntu: you naughty devil [10:10] Slavox, heh...I know its lame, but its entertaining at 4A [10:10] Yeah I grief in TF2 sometimes (On the achivement servers) [10:10] But I hate people who glitch seriously on CoD4 [10:11] Like scrollers :/ [10:11] Fun is fun but some days I just wanna play :P [13:58] Hello. I'm having a problem with the audio on ripped DVDs. It's this chattery/staticy/clicky sound. Audio on everything else is fine, to include the audio on conventional DVD playback. [14:28] hello everyone [14:29] I was wondering if anyone would be willing to steer me in the right direction in getting freesat working with my nova-hd-s2 card? [14:30] i've tried everything i can think of to get a channels.conf or a sucessful scan but it won't work [14:30] im running mythbuntu 9.04 with an nvidia-glx-180 driver [14:46] hallo und guten tag, ich kann leider nur in deutsch schreiben und habe seit dem update von mythbuntu 8.10 auf 9.04 ein kleines problem. kann mir jemand helfen ? [15:04] hi there, i am sure this question has been asked quite a few times before here, but has anyone yet tried to update his mythtv-box to 9.04 [15:04] did it work? what are the problems i may have to expect? [15:16] anyone any idea how to solve this? [15:16] >>> tune to: 10758:v:0:22000 [15:16] DVB-S IF freq is 1008000 [15:16] WARNING: filter timeout pid 0x0011 [15:16] WARNING: filter timeout pid 0x0000 [17:46] hi, after 9.04 upgrade i can view recordings but if i click one the remote frontend say that it can't find the record file [17:47] hm [17:47] thats odd [17:48] how can i do? [17:49] i dont' know how the windows frontend can open the files, it's a samba problem' [17:49] ? [17:52] hm your frontend and your backend are different machines? [17:54] is the network connection established? [17:54] can you watch tv from the remote frontend? [17:55] livetv i mean [18:05] tafkaz_73: hi, i have a linux min backand and a windows frontend [18:06] oh i see. well i am absolutely not familiar with win frontends [18:06] sorry, but i dont think i can help then [18:06] tafkaz_73: ok [19:40] Alright, I installed Mythtv on my Ubuntu box and typed "mythtv-setup" as I was instructed during installation. [19:40] I got a "cannot login to database" error. [19:41] Any ideas? [19:43] mac9416, goto /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt and try and login to mysql using that info [19:44] Shadow__X, You're everywhere! OK, will do. [19:44] no i just try and help out in some areas i know alittle bit about [19:49] Shadow__X, And I thank you for it. OK I tried "mysql -u mythtv -p -h localhost" and got an access denied. [19:50] dont use -h localhost just do mysql -u mythtv and -p<> [19:50] OK... [19:52] Second verse, same as the first I'm afraid. [19:52] It seemed to assume localhost anyway. [19:55] I can get into the mysql shell if I just drop all args. I don't know if that helps. [20:05] Well, I think I may just try Mythbuntu as soon a shipit is back up. [20:05] why not dl it [20:08] I'm using Verizon broadband wirless. 5GB/month cap. It's been 7 days and I've already hit 1100Megs. :-D [20:08] Yeah, I hate to use Canonical's money, but things are difficult otherwise. [20:09] mac9416, i think after you hit the cap they throttle you [20:10] Throttle? You mean charge extra? Or just slow me down. [20:10] slow you down but dont quote me on that [20:11] OK, I'll check into that. Yeah, I could just time the download for the last few hours of the month. [20:15] Is there any other good tv-recording software I can use until I get Mythbuntu? [20:16] the only one i used extensively is mythtv [20:16] you should be able to easily setup ubuntu to use mythtv but other than that dont know [20:18] Well, I installed the debs, and mythtv-frontend appears in Applications, but during setup, it can't get into the datadase. [20:19] (Wow, I think I put in too many commas) :P [20:20] wait did you install mythtv-backend and mysql [20:20] and what debs are you talking about why didnt you use repos [20:21] Yeah I installed both. I used Keryx to download the debs because my Linux box has no Internet connection. I hate that, but it is what it is. [20:22] keryx? [20:22] :P I'm so poor, I can't 'ford no internet connection. :P [20:22] oh [20:22] Yeah, it gets dependencies for you. [20:22] but you have the wireless [20:22] thats not cheap [20:22] keryxproject.org [20:23] No, I'm just kidding about that. [20:23] I have wireless for the laptop, but none of the desktops. [20:24] Yeah, I think Mythbuntu will be the key. All the setup done for me. [20:24] I may just buy the CD if it comes to that. [20:26] hmm i guess i mean its not like its hard to setup really [20:26] go onto the ubuntu box and reconfigure mysql [20:27] I don't have any experience with mysql, I'm afraid, so I'm not sure how to go about that. [20:28] alright h/o i am rebooting [20:35] back [20:35] Yo. [20:36] mac9416, go into synaptic find mysql server and right click it and choose reconfigure [20:36] OK... [20:42] Well, neither Synaptic nor dpkg-reconfigure believe that mysql is even installed. OK, I'll try installing it again. [20:43] What's the name of the package? 'mysql'? [20:43] I installed mysql-server. [20:45] http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-mysql-server-5-on-ubuntu/ [20:45] Apparenly all I have to have is mysql-server. I'll reconfig that... [20:45] yeah that could be why mythtv is yelling about mysql [20:45] ;) [21:00] Haha, I think not. Apparently there is no 'mysql' package. It seems that 'mysql-server' does the job. Does your Synaptic have a 'mysql' package? [21:01] I tried right-clicking mysql-server to click reconfigure, but that option was not there. [21:06] mark for reinstallation [21:06] and do mysql-server not mysql [21:06] OK, will do. [21:31] Well, reinstallation didn't help. [21:34] what did it do [21:34] also try mysql -u root [21:34] wait hold on you dont have internet on the myth box? [21:34] what are you going to be using this for [21:35] Nope. Recording off a VHS. :P [21:36] It just went through the reinstallation process. No reconfiguration, no nothing. [21:36] off vhs huh [21:36] lol [21:37] Now, what am I trying to accomplish with 'mysql -u' etc. [21:37] i dont know if mythtv is wright for that [21:37] Yeah, Indiana Jones. [21:37] write* [21:37] *right? [21:37] mysqpl -u root would be to log into the database from terminal [21:37] Well, I think I can already do that. [21:37] yeah right* i guss i am off today [21:37] hmm ok [21:38] If I just type 'mysql' I get "mysql>" [21:38] A prompt. [21:39] Well, it does ask my password. [21:39] But I just entered it. [21:40] hmm [21:40] alright now we can fix stuff [21:40] Cool [21:42] you need to create the mythtv user [21:42] from the mysql promt [21:42] type this [21:43] mysql> INSERT INTO user (Host,User,Password) VALUES('%','username',PASSWORD('password')); [21:45] It looks a bit scary. Could you assume some things (maybe replace them with "example")? [21:45] Or just break it down for me. [21:47] sure insert that user into users so replace 'username' [21:47] anbd replace 'password' [21:48] also replace 'password' with the password mythtv will use to access its database [21:49] "mysql> INSERT INTO user (localhost,mac9416,pswd) VALUES('%','mac9416',PASSWORD('pswd'))" [21:49] Will that get it? [21:50] Or should I use user 'mythtv' and password 'llhv9' (or something like that)? [21:50] The stuff in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt. [21:51] i would use mythtv and the pass that mysql.txt used just for documentation sake and to remember it [21:52] OK, then "mysql> INSERT INTO user (localhost,mythtv,llhv9) VALUES('%','mythtv',PASSWORD('llhv9'))" [21:52] Will that work? [21:52] It's a confusing line. [21:53] i am not quite sure at the moment [21:53] OK, I'll give it a whirl... [21:53] or [21:54] Adding a Database User with Password [21:54] mysql> grant all privileges on [databasename].* to [dbusername]@localhost [21:54] identified by '[dbpassword]'; [21:54] Example: grant all privileges on mydatabase.* to joeuser@localhost [21:54] identified by 'supersecretpasswd'; [21:54] damn it i should of pastebined it [21:54] Shadow__X: Please watch your language. [21:54] ok [21:55] mysql> grant all privileges on mythtv.* to mythtv@localhost [21:55] ? [21:57] It looks good exept [databasename] which I'm not sure about. [21:58] for this kind of stuff you can hop back in mythtv they know more about mysql commands than i do [21:58] or [21:58] you could look at mythtv.org that should have some mysql info [21:59] http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html [22:30] Yeah, mythtv isn't really the right thing to use to record off a VHS. [22:30] And there is much easier ways to setup mythtv in Ubuntu. [22:30] !database [22:30] Sorry I don't know about database [22:30] !mysql [22:30] If you are having problems connecting to your mysql database, you can perform the following to reconfigure it: 1. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0 (pay attention to the root password you set, you will need it for the next step) 2. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database 3. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common [22:31] 9.04 already ships with the broken mythfrondend which willfully and stupidly breaks pulseaudio? [22:32] Don't think so. [22:32] ah, ok, good. [22:32] If that was a question. [22:32] yes, it was [22:32] :) [22:32] somebody just said that he ran into that problem after upgrading to 9.04. [22:32] Putting question marks on the end of sentances makes them look funny? [22:33] I hear it's slipped into the weekly build. [22:33] yes? [22:33] But should be fixed soon enough [22:34] OK, got distracted there for a minute. I'll look at that howto, then try what Zinn suggested. [22:36] hads: yes, it 's a form of sarcastic irony and therefore can be considered funny, depending on viewpoint, but in my case, it was actually a question. [22:36] the "stupid" was a statement, the "ships" was a question,. [22:36] :-) [22:37] The HOWTO says: [22:37] cd database [22:37] mysql < mc.sql [22:37] I'm not sure where to cd database from. [22:37] So, I'll try what Zinn said. [22:37] on ubuntu the database is built for you using mythtv-database and mythtv-common [22:37] just follow !mysql [22:37] mac9416: the toturial means the source code directory. [22:38] Oh, so only if I compile it myself? [22:38] BenB, there was a patch to -fixes that came after 9.04 that broke things [22:38] BenB, it should be taken care of though in today's weekly build [22:38] (wrg to pulse) [22:38] I haven't upgraded yet, so I'm good. [22:38] well 9.04 itself is fine [22:38] it's just if you use weekly builds [22:39] OK. [22:42] superm1: "taken care of" in the sense of undoing the patch? [22:44] for the record, pulse works fine here on (stock) ubuntu 8.04 with the mythtv packages. [22:44] but also mac9416 mythtv isnt really for recording from vhs [22:45] Shadow__X, Zinn, ya'll rock. The reconfigurations worked and now I can get to the main Mythtv screen! Unfortunately, when I go to "Watch TV" and hit enter the screen just blinks and that's all. [22:45] mac9416, did you setup a tuner [22:45] Shadow__X, well if it even just works a little, that will be good. [22:45] No, I don't know how. [22:46] thats why live tv doesnt work [22:46] mac9416: follow the tutorial further. [22:46] Maybe ;-) [22:46] mac9416: it explains that [22:46] yup [22:46] like go get some tuners or do crazy firewire [22:47] Okee-dokee, thanks! Shadow__X has been with me, what 3 hours! Thanks a lot [22:47] ! [22:47] Sorry I don't know about [22:47] yeah its cool we have all been there [22:47] i am just glad i can help somewhat [22:47] Thanks to Zinn also [22:52] zinn is a bot [22:52] !help [22:52] !help For a complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number]. [22:52] !status [22:52] I am alive. [22:54] Dadgum, he had me fooled! Thanks hads! [22:54] !mysql [22:54] If you are having problems connecting to your mysql database, you can perform the following to reconfigure it: 1. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0 (pay attention to the root password you set, you will need it for the next step) 2. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database 3. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common [22:54] :P [22:54] BenB, no, it now depends on libpulse0 and can disable pulseaudio as necessary [22:56] superm1: will there be a user-friendly way to let mythtv *use* pulse (via native API or alsa emulation), as it was possible in 8.04? [22:56] There's an environment variable you can set I think. [22:56] cause that worked fine here, and pulse is really cool. *esp* on the myth frontend, which has nice speakers, which I use for music form my other parts of the house, i.e. I *need* pulse. [22:57] BenB, you'll need to ask in #mythtv about behaviors with it. i think you can still use alsa emulation with this latest patch [22:57] ok [22:57] i've not actually experimented with it myself yet [22:57] er maybe #mythtv-users [22:57] thats a better start [22:57] Yeah, I was using pulse successfully too. [22:58] I'd rather not go to #mythtv, or I'll hit danielk who created the patch, and I'll use the worst kinds of insults towards him :) [22:58] Just be nicer. [22:58] And do make sure it's #mythtv-users [22:58] nah, when I see such arrogant ignorance, I can't be nice anymore :/ [22:58] Well that's your problem then. [22:58] mac9416, so any other questions [22:58] that's why I rather avoid the confrontation and leave it to others who have better developed social skills :) [22:59] heh [22:59] At least you're honest :) [23:01] Shadow__X, yeah, I ran mythtv-setup, and added my capture card, but I still can't enter "Watch TV" [23:01] you didnt scan [23:01] it knows theres a tuner but doesnt know what to tune [23:02] Waaaait, that's for TV. I want the Composite(2). [23:04] Do I still have to scan? [23:05] you have to attach a tv source [23:05] eg somewhere guide data comes from [23:06] Are you just trying to digitise some old VHS tapes? [23:06] Yeah, old-school, retro VHSs. [23:06] If you happen to have a PVR-150 or somesuch then you can just cat /dev/video0 > my_movie.mpg [23:06] I don't even want to watch TV. [23:07] Honestly, it's a bit of a waste of time using myth just for that. [23:07] Heavens! had I known that... [23:07] Well, I plan to do some editing too. [23:08] So, cat /dev/video0 > my_movie.mpg? And I can play that with Xine? [23:09] Are you using a PVR-150? [23:09] No, ATI TV-Wonder 200. And I hate it. [23:09] But, it's what I've got. [23:10] Then quite possibly not, no. [23:10] So don't feel so bad :) [23:10] No, I know I have a /dev/video0 [23:10] If that's all that's required... [23:10] It's not. [23:11] Drato. [23:11] The PVR-150 etc. output MPEG files which is why you can do that. [23:11] So, how can I get Mythtv to play it? [23:11] (I need to get a PVR) [23:12] Pass, I don't know anything about that card but if it's supported under Linux then the normal myth setup should work. [23:15] I thought I already did the normal setup in mythtv-setup. Is there something else I have to configure? [23:16] try cating it [23:16] OK, can't hurt. [23:21] cat: Input/Output error. [23:23] where you playing the tape [23:24] Yup. (Raiders of the Lost Ark) :-D [23:24] No luck. [23:26] /dev/video0 is there right [23:26] nvm [23:26] Yup. [23:26] make the vcr is plugged in [23:27] Yup. [23:27] Y'know, I had it playing in TVTime, but it stopped. Maybe a reboot is in order... [23:30] unless you did something normally reboots arent needed in linux all the time [23:30] True... [23:33] does tvtime work now [23:33] ? [23:33] Nope, 'fraid not. [23:34] what does it say [23:34] Nothing. No errors, just a blue screen. [23:35] hmm when it was working what happened for it to stop [23:36] Well, I installed 'dvr' thinking I'd give it a try. [23:36] hmm did you run it lol oh wait [23:36] is myth-backend running [23:36] Probably. [23:37] Kill it? [23:37] yes either kill it or delete where you configured setup to use your tuner [23:39]