=== cybersplice__ is now known as cybersplice [00:46] anyone wanna help me get audio output from my server? === reid_ is now known as reid [02:13] hi, what's the preferred way of generating the bridge setup in KVM? in /etc/interfaces or through virsh? [02:22] Anyone have any luck getting openfire working under Ubuntu? [02:22] Or any IM server? [02:24] JorgeJorgesson, have you seen this: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/08/howto-install-openfire-xmpp-jabber.html [02:27] foxbuntu: yes, and that is how I got this far. [02:27] JorgeJorgesson, alright, well explain your problem or ask your question then. [02:28] I thought I did earlier. I cannot log into my openfire server. I get ssl error from pidgin. [02:29] ah [02:29] Kopete also gives an error [02:29] I didnt see it in the scrollback [02:29] Not defined though [02:29] well are there any relevants logs? [02:29] apache? [02:29] foxbuntu: I understand and sorry. Just frustrated [02:29] foxbuntu: no errors [02:30] what is the exact error from pidgin? [02:31] SSL connection failed [02:33] try this: telnet < ip | url > 5223 [02:33] see if you can connect to the port on the server [02:34] no such file or directory [02:34] what was the command you entered? [02:34] as copied and pasted [02:34] < ip | url > should be replaced with the ip or url to the server [02:35] ie 1.1.1.1 or pidgin.somedomain.com [02:35] (Like "telnet foo.domain.com 5223") [02:35] telnet < 192.168.2.4 | url > 5223 [02:35] telnet 192.168.2.4 5223 [02:36] connected to [02:37] ok [02:37] so it connected then? [02:37] I assume [02:37] well it should have gone to an emtpy console or sent header info [02:37] otherwise it says timed out [02:38] did you do all of these steps? http://www.igniterealtime.org/builds/openfire/docs/latest/documentation/ssl-guide.html [02:38] sec...you are going too fast [02:39] response: [02:39] Connected to 192.168.2.4. [02:39] Escape character is '^]'. [02:39] I followed directions several times [02:40] JorgeJorgesson, your ssl port on the server is alive then [02:40] I'm telling you, there is something wrong with Ubuntu and openfire [02:41] That is why it is not in the repos [02:41] evening folks [02:41] still diagnosing some issues from the 9.04 upgrade [02:42] JorgeJorgesson, Im trying to walk you through diagnostics... [02:42] having problems with kerberos+ldap clients ... sshfs (although ssh works),netatalk, samba... [02:42] fox, no problem [02:42] foxbuntu: no problem [02:42] in order to get ssh working again,I had to comment out #account [default=bad success=ok user_unknown=ignore service_err=ignore system_err=ignore] pam_krb5.so minimum_uid=1000 [02:43] JorgeJorgesson, what did you change on the Pidgin client to connect to the server? [02:43] foxbuntu: sorry, been there before. [02:43] suspect that is what gave users a ticket at login, but regardless, if I can auth though ssh, I should be able to use sshfs, right? [02:44] foxbuntu: the regular, name, server and such [02:44] And under advanced the required settings [02:44] JorgeJorgesson, I need full detail to help [02:44] JorgeJorgesson, I have to know exactly what I am dealing with [02:44] Domain: used both my ddns and actual ip [02:45] ok [02:45] what is the domain you used when you setup the SSL self-signed certificate? [02:45] advanced...no to require, yes to force old....yes to allow plain text....port 5223, connect server....my ip and ddns [02:46] foxbuntu: I never changed ip addresses. [02:47] JorgeJorgesson, ip doesnt matter right now [02:47] what is the domain you used when you setup the SSL self-signed certificate? [02:47] same as now [02:47] you had to give it a FQDN [02:47] i don't understand the fqdn [02:47] fully qualified domain name [02:47] ie. www.google.com [02:47] still means nothing [02:48] not some_pc [02:49] Ok, not sure what you are getting at. [02:49] this step in the SSL setup: keytool -genkey -keystore keystore -alias example.com [02:49] what did you replace example.com with? [02:49] I have keys generated [02:50] example.com was replaced with my domain [02:51] then you need to use that in your Pidgin config [02:51] not the IP [02:51] Not a problem. It just does not work with Ubuntu [02:51] also, you should set pidgin to require SSL [02:51] I tried that stuff [02:51] It just does not work with Ubuntu as a server [02:52] JorgeJorgesson, is you can connect to 5223 with telnet, then it is working, there is just a configuration error in your setup [02:52] Ok, prove it. [02:52] Not so [02:52] Are the clients Ubuntu too? [02:52] Yes [02:52] What release? [02:53] Mixed [02:53] 8.04,8.10, 9.04 [02:53] All fail [02:53] JorgeJorgesson, Im sorry. Im not going to argue. You seem unwilling to just answer questions. I have things to accomplish. [02:53] In Intrepid we killed SSL v2. A suprising number of apps were still defaulting to it. [02:53] ? I answered [02:54] foxbuntu: I answered as simple as I could [02:55] So 8.04 clients may be a problem. I'd test with 8.10 or later until you get it working. [02:55] JorgeJorgesson, I am sorry. I wish you the best of luck with your problem but I am no longer willing to help. [02:55] ? [02:56] foxbuntu: too hard of a problem? I'm not sure why not. [02:56] JorgeJorgesson: We're essentially all volunteers here. If he told you he can't spend more time on the problem, just let it go. [02:56] Holy cow, sorry. [02:57] I did not mean to offend, just get help [02:57] For future reference, I think " Ok, prove it." probably wasn't your best bet at that juncture. [02:58] ok, no problem [02:58] Another distro might be my best choice. Thanks. [02:58] I know it gets frustrating. [02:58] I find SSL works quite well on Ubuntu Server. [02:59] No, too sensitive here. Thanks though! I appreciate the effort. A ton! [02:59] I didn't see all the scrollback, so I don't have any opinion on your specific problem. [02:59] JorgeJorgesson: I'm pretty tolerant, but I thought the "prove it" line was a bit inflammatory. I don't think they reacted sensitively. They reacted normally. [03:00] Like I said, no problem. I understand. I was wrong. [03:00] I will try Debian... [03:00] See how that is. [03:01] My recommendation would be to consider if his statement was correct and re-examine your configs. [03:01] Not a problem..thanks scott. [03:02] change is as good as a holiday [03:03] Hey, I'm a nice guy that got caught up in frustration. If one cannot understand/tolerate that, so be it. I understand 100%. I came off as a goof. [03:04] So, I carry on. [03:05] Goof isn't the word I'd have picked, but no need to switch distro's over it. [03:06] Yeah, it is. I have to ask for help form time to time and it will be tough here now. No problems [03:07] JorgeJorgesson: in my unprofessional opinion, if you were truly interested in switching distro's.. you would not be in #ubuntu-server as we speak.. however, if you are truly interested in still receiving help, I'm sure nobody here has a problem doing so [03:08] Good evening. [03:08] *shrug* [03:08] * infinity bites his tongue. [03:08] Ok,does anybody think I was out of line here? [03:09] No, you were excruciatingly polite and helpful, in the face of rather adversarial accusations. [03:09] *shrug* [03:09] I don't think you were, foxbuntu [03:09] foxbuntu: no ur fine [03:09] I'd have given up shortly after he attempted to redirect his IP to telnet, personally. [03:09] however, now that there is some traffic in this channel. anyone wanna help me get audio output working on my server? [03:09] Alright. Well I just want to make sure I wasn't casuing problems :) [03:10] ALSA installed, speaker-test outputs only to left channel [03:10] connections are fine [03:10] foxbuntu: Additionally, you aren't required to volunteer yourself beyond what you care to. If you say your done, your done. I don't think it's subject to anyone elses review. [03:10] foxbuntu: nah that guy was totally out of line, he acted like a child taking criticism lol [03:10] foxbuntu: oh, you cause problems. ;) [03:11] ScottK-desktop, yeah, I just don't like to stop like that. But I was getting irritated and didn't want to do mean things to a user. [03:11] PhotoJim, well...thats a given, but I am trying to keep it to a minimum [03:12] Heh. [03:12] anyone here wanna help me with ALSA problems on my server though? =P [03:12] foxbuntu: I would have wanted to do mean things to a user and attempted to restrain myself. [03:12] reid, pastebin the output of aplay -l and aplay -L [03:13] thanks =P brb [03:14] ScottK-desktop, yeah, I am trying to avoid things like that, after all I am an Ubuntu Member working towards MOTU :) [03:14] foxbuntu: aplay -l returns no sound cards [03:14] foxbuntu: aplay -L returns nothing [03:14] reid, intresting [03:14] actually, no output now either lol [03:14] when i speaker-test I get this [03:15] http://paste.ubuntu.com/158258/ [03:15] reid, does [03:16] I'm going to assume that you're either doing all this testing as root, or as a user that you're POSITIVE has access to audio devices? [03:16] cat /proc/asound/cards produce anything? [03:16] infinity, thats another thought, perhaps the user is not in the 'audio' group [03:16] 0 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia [03:16] HDA NVidia at 0xfe024000 irq 22 [03:16] yesh [03:16] foxbuntu: No user added with "adduser" would have audio. [03:16] foxbuntu: It's only the cute GUI tools that add users to extra groups. [03:16] ok [03:17] thats true [03:17] as root, sound comes out of left speaker [03:17] infinity, yup [03:17] but not right [03:17] reid, then try sudo aplay -l and sudo aplay -L [03:17] reid: Okay. And as root, "aplay -l/L" are more informative, I assume? [03:17] infinity, ha, I beat you to it [03:17] reid: (And "adduser user audio" should fix up the permissions problem) [03:18] http://paste.ubuntu.com/158260/ [03:18] Now I can go to bed. [03:18] =) already solved half of my problem lol [03:19] reid, try speaker-test -Dplughw:0,0 [03:19] does that give you all channels? [03:19] nopespeaker-test -Dplughw:0,0 [03:19] err [03:19] nope [03:19] , it also only says 0- Front Left [03:20] reid, oh its not rolling channels then [03:20] What does the console usually emulate in Ubuntu Server? [03:20] ball: The actual console (ie: tty[1-6]), or when you SSH in? [03:20] reid, try speaker-test -s1 [03:20] ball: When you SSH in, emulation is entirely up to whatever string your client sends. [03:20] then speaker-test -s2 [03:21] same thing, cept it says " - Front Left" [03:21] ie. no speaker number [03:21] ball: The real console is a vt100ish emulation called "linux". [03:21] reid, then speaker-test -s2 [03:21] 20:20 < infinity> ball: The actual console (ie: tty[1-6]), or when you SSH in? === ball_ is now known as ball [03:21] infinity: the actual console [03:21] 20:20 < infinity> ball: When you SSH in, emulation is entirely up to whatever string your client sends. [03:21] invalid parameter error [03:21] 20:21 < infinity> ball: The real console is a vt100ish emulation called "linux". [03:22] infinity: VT100ish, but with colour. [03:22] ball: Right. [03:22] reid, alsamixer [03:22] ball: Closer to vt220, really, but whatever. [03:22] That would be handy with 8-bit character sets [03:22] ball: "linux" has its own quirks that make it not entirely VT. [03:22] reid, see if the right channel is muted [03:22] foxbuntu: there is no distinction between R/L channel, just Front [03:22] reid, hmm [03:23] ball: (ie: that it can do unicode, it can do true color, etc) [03:23] ball: But, whatever. For most uses, it's vt100. :) [03:23] infinity: right, I had $TERM set wrong [03:23] ...so irssi was being strange [03:24] okay, I can go to bed now anyway. [03:24] ...job done. [03:24] ball: getty should be setting TERM correctly on login anyway, if you just avoid setting it in your own rc scripts. [03:24] infinity: force of habit [03:24] I set it to xterm [03:24] ...which was subtly wrong [03:25] xterm-color would be slightly closer to correct. [03:25] I'm used to xterm being colour by default. [03:25] Anyway, I'm so tired I can't focus on the screen [03:25] I still live in the 80s. Nothing's color by default. [03:25] reid, try aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav [03:26] infinity: please buy some shares in Microsoft [03:26] infinity: well, I'm sort of there too, but "xterm-color" is new to me [03:26] says its playing mono, for one [03:26] cant tell one sec [03:26] yeah no right channel [03:26] reid: monophonic, not monochrome [03:26] I'm off to bed anyway, to dream of decades gone by when computers were actually fun. [03:27] ball: spacewar! [03:27] twb: ? lol I know that [03:27] reid, what type of speakers? just basic stuff? [03:27] twb: I was thinking more of DDT [03:27] Goodnight anyway [03:27] ball: hehe [03:27] foxbuntu: well, its running to a stack of 80's amp, equalizer, and tuner, and to 4 big floor monitors [03:27] lol [03:27] That's carcinogenic! [03:27] foxbuntu: but it runs fine off my other linux installs, and off my windows box [03:27] reid, lol nice [03:27] foxbuntu: just can't get it to work with server [03:28] $ file /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav [03:28] /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, mono 48000 Hz [03:28] That file *is* mono. [03:28] twb, yea [03:28] twb: I know, but it should still come out of both speakers [03:28] twb, but mono plays on all channels [03:28] Right [03:28] Check alsamixer [03:28] yup [03:28] reid: I think he was looking more for "normal stereo eighth inch plug, or something fancy?" :) [03:28] thats my thinking is that something is muted [03:28] Also check your 3.5mm connectors are plugged all the way in [03:29] yea [03:29] foxbuntu: the server is a torrentbox atm, with fluxbox =P with an 1080p graphics card in it, soon to be hooked up in our living room lol [03:29] reid, well why are you using -server for this then? [03:29] reid: we don't give a shit about your graphics card, in the context of an audio issue [03:29] infinity: normal 1/8 plug, changes to RCA cables though, adapter [03:29] reid: Yeah, I assumed. [03:30] twb: if you aren't going to help me, please don't highlight my name =/ [03:30] Besides, don't you know it's more impressive to run on older, crapper hardware?! [03:30] * twb is ircing from a 68020 [03:30] Honest. [03:30] I'm using server, because the comp doesn't have much ram atm.. and I didn't really care for gnome and all that either [03:30] twb, we are sliding a little ot here [03:30] foxbuntu: sorry. [03:30] fluxbox is fine, and I don't want even that running when I am torrenting [03:31] but all of that beside the point, I just need to get both channels recognized by alsa =P [03:31] reid, you could get fluxbuntu [03:31] true [03:31] reid, desktop kernel with fluxbox [03:31] would likely be easier [03:31] just sucks because everything else is running great [03:32] video is coming out, fluxbox is working great, my torrents are working great, etc [03:32] well I am sure it is fixable [03:32] Im not trying to chase you away [03:32] lol kk [03:32] I just want to make it easy :) [03:32] * foxbuntu is a big fan of easy [03:33] I just want it efficient =P and right now its the epitome of that for my needs [03:33] reid: Do you have any way to test this machine's sound outside of the current installation? (Windows dual-boot, a Jaunty desktop LiveCD, etc?) [03:34] hmm.. I could grab a live CD.. one sec [03:34] reid: Might be nice to know that it's not some whacky hardware issue. [03:34] infinity, good idea [03:34] reid: Though it certainly smelly like either misconfiguation, or sever driver hatred. [03:34] s/smelly/smells/ [03:34] lol... gentoo minimal.. thats not going to work [03:34] ahh here we go [03:34] s/sever/severe/ too... I really need to nap. [03:34] one sec, rebooting server [03:34] infinity, I thought smelly worked well there ;) [03:36] lol [03:36] live CD boots with only 512 mb ram? [03:36] Yeah. [03:36] It's not happy about it, but it works. :) [03:36] thats pretty sweet =P booting up [03:36] I *think* we still have it working with 256, though I'm not sure how seriously we take that anymore. [03:36] I booted it with 384 MB once. [03:37] PhotoJim, I have too ) its nice and slow [03:37] man, I've been using linux for like.. 10 months maybe now? I can't even check my e-mail on windows anymore.. so many things just feel wrong.. terribly wrong [03:37] foxbuntu: ran ok once installed though. PII also. [03:37] Trust me, I know the feeling. [03:37] I tried to connect to a hidden SSID on my windows partition today [03:37] and I gave up... after like 45 mintues [03:37] haha [03:37] I was a kernel/toolchain hacker for ages, and to me, "Linux was for servers"... I ran BeOS, MacOS, Windows on the frontend and various UNIX/Linux systems on the backend. [03:37] reid, sounds like you stepped up to the punch and had a nice big cup of it [03:38] When I started working for Canonical, I did the whole "dogfood" thing, and now when I go back to other desktops, they drive me nuts. [03:38] interesting lol... [03:38] liveCD sound only comes out of left channel [03:38] gimme a second here, I'm going to double check my system.. its almost 30 years old, so I suppose now is the time haha [03:38] Well, that establishes that it's not something you broke on your own. :) [03:38] hooking it up to my other box [03:38] reid, then likely you have a hardware issue [03:39] It could still very much be a driver issue on our side. But I'd be leaning to hardware. [03:39] indeed [03:39] Given that your card isn't exactly uncommon, and I'm thinking we'd have a lot of very angry bugs if it only used one channel... [03:39] yes [03:40] I have like three machines with that very chipset [03:40] hmm [03:40] works fine on windows box, transfer over and speaker-test [03:40] still only left channel [03:41] Wait, what works fine on the windows box? Your sound card, or the stereo setup? :) [03:41] the stereo setup [03:41] same sound card [03:41] (The soundcard looked like onboard audio to me, so I'm thinking that doesn't move very well) [03:41] its the same board =P [03:41] model.. that is [03:41] haha [03:41] If it's an identical motherboard, then booting the Windows machine with the livecd would also be quite informative. [03:42] correct [03:42] reid, give that a try [03:42] its in the works =P [03:42] Could nail down if it *IS* a driver bug (and if it is, we'd love it filed). [03:43] Well, "love" is a strong term. We wouldn't hate you for filing it? [03:43] :) [03:43] infinity, correction, if it is a driver bug, please procede directly to Launchpad to file a bug report [03:43] heh [03:44] * foxbuntu proposes an Ubuntu Global Bug Patrol Squad to come get non-bug filers [03:44] I'm a lot more likely just to upload the fix and not bother. [03:44] well [03:45] they would leave you alone then ScottK [03:45] lol so while this is happening. you guys wanna hear something funny? [03:45] no [03:45] aw fine [03:45] heh [03:45] Only if it involves ScottK's mother. [03:45] Couldn't hear it anyway. No sound. [03:45] Doubly-so now. [03:46] anways.. my roommate is this script-kiddy ass, that dual-boots linux and windows, and insists that windows is better. and I just said its cause he never uses his linux partition. so he gets all angry and boots into linux and starts talking in this "oh look at me, im in a terminal, I do everything from a terminal cause im a linux fag.. watch me fsck" [03:46] lol [03:46] and he fsck's his mounted drive [03:46] destroys MBR, and can't get back into windows lol [03:46] That is funny. [03:47] ok, desktop is into liveCD now.. brb [03:47] Despite the lack of involvement of ScottK's mother, I'll concede that's funny. [03:47] Just this once. [03:47] * foxbuntu give its a 4, classifies it as mildly entertaining [03:48] foxbuntu: You'd be pointing and laughing if you were there. [03:48] infinity, thats besides the point [03:48] :P [03:48] yay? both channels work on desktop [03:48] lol [03:48] That kinda rules out driver bug, then, if it's the same card. :/ [03:48] yup [03:48] reid: tell him to run his Windows machine (once he has it running again :) ) without AV software for a month, and you'll do the same with Linux. See who wins. [03:48] haha [03:49] I already explained to him that I got a torrentbox running with literally 5 or 6 commands haha [03:49] Unless it's something really touchy like different BIOS versions, or the infamous "this needs to be setup by the Windows driver before you reboot into Linux"... [03:49] I have a feeling its a config issue [03:49] reid, ah here is an idea [03:49] how can I be sure? [03:49] reid, go get the realtek hs audio package from their website [03:49] reid: We kinda ruled out config issues with the LiveCD being an identical config on both systems. [03:49] s/hs/hd [03:49] oh yeah [03:50] infinity, not totally, but close [03:51] reid, the alsa package from realtek is quite slick, it might make it work [03:51] would I be at the right place at http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=14&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false? [03:51] no question mark after the URL, sorry lol [03:51] reid, yup, thats the one [03:52] reid, you need to have build-essential and... [03:52] I always forget the other package [03:53] xmlto I think [03:53] for the build of their package to work [03:55] * infinity leaves this in the capable hands of people who seem to understand modern Linux audio... [03:55] ugh.. I really.. really wish I had more keyboards and mice [03:56] infinity, define capable? [03:56] It would date me entirely to admit that the last audio driver I committed to was the soundblaster driver somwhere in 2.0.x... [03:56] ;) [03:58] lol [03:58] links is having a little trouble going through these javascript sits [03:58] sites [04:00] I just had to get my mouse and get into fluxbox =/ [04:00] yeah [04:01] javascript + lynx != good_times [04:01] w3m kinda sorta deals with most JavaScript. Ish. [04:01] That was pretty non-committal, wasn't it? [04:01] oo [04:01] maybe, maybe not [04:01] w3m [04:01] never tried it [04:03] w3m does not include any js support. [04:03] Oh, wait. What was I thinking of, then? [04:03] It's something that navigates like w3m... [04:03] One of the lynx variants implements toy js support. [04:03] IIRC, elinks [04:03] And less like lynx/links. [04:04] * infinity shrugs. [04:05] and do the configure make make install dance with the drivers? =P [04:05] It's really only enough to recognize onclick="open('webdev was too stupid to use href!')" [04:07]