[00:58] ScottK: the bug report was filed yesterday. [00:58] bokey: What bug? [00:58] ScottK: for inclusion of libical0 [00:58] bokey: I mean what bug number? [00:59] ScottK: sure hang on a sec [00:59] https://bugs.launchpad.net/intrepid-backports/+bug/367131 [00:59] Ubuntu bug 367131 in intrepid-backports "Please backport libical0 (0.43-2ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1) from Jaunty to Intrepid" [Undecided,New] [00:59] ScottK: ^^^^ [00:59] Looking [01:00] Demn you told me to file it lol [01:00] :> [01:00] The calendar plasmoid's chewing up CPU. [01:00] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/352673 [01:00] Ubuntu bug 352673 in kdebase-workspace "plasma cpu usage 40% and more" [Undecided,New] [01:01] other than that its pretty decent [01:02] Riddell: I just approved ^^^ backport. I'd appreciate it if you'd take care of it (it's a pre-req for 4.2.2 backport) [01:02] bokey: Thanks. [01:02] Gotta run [01:03] ScottK: Sure now worries. [01:47] * Gon salio: Ausente por el momento [01:53] * Gon ha vuelto. [02:09] ScottK: that bug asks for libical 0.43-2ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1 [02:09] jaunty has 0.43-2 [02:09] you want the 0.43-2 version? [02:13] ScottK [02:13] i take an screenshot with my plasma issue [02:13] now [02:13] D: [02:14] https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/164329/instantanea8.png [02:25] Gon: what plasma theme is this? [02:32] Gon: That looks similar to what happens to me. [02:39] neversfelde: oxyglass more [02:40] FAIL! my plasmoids looks horrible XD [02:42] https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/164329/instantanea9.png [03:23] I have same issue with plasma, also with qt 4.5.1 [03:30] Someone with more patience than me needs to write a good bug report. [03:33] ScottK: I think there isn't a steps to reproduce it, so seems difficult to write a bug report :) [03:35] Yes, that's why I haven't, but at least describe the problem. [03:47] ScottK: I asked in #plasma and the answer is: [03:47] lex79: as far as i can tell, there is no such problem in kde 4.2.2 (i am running it). you should bother the kubuntu guys to get working graphics drivers [03:48] hmmmm :) [03:48] OK. [03:49] lex79: Then I'd ask tomorrow in #ubuntu-x about what would need to be in a useful bug report. [03:52] ok, as you want, btw I think is not driver issue, I tried different versions of nvidia driver. [04:02] And it happens to me with Intel [04:02] So if it's an X thing, it may not be a driver, but something else. [04:03] sure [09:52] Riddell: what should we do with bugs like bug #366482 - its caused by the problem that there is no debconf frontend for qt4 and therefore sun java does not instal (pre-inst failure). we could refuse to upgrade packages with known problem like sun-java here? or switch to terminal debconf (ugly)? [09:52] Launchpad bug 366482 in update-manager "[kde] Ubuntu 9 upgrade Could not install '/var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java6-bin_6-13-1_amd64.deb'" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/366482 [10:06] mvo: is that being installed using kubuntu-restriced-extras or just the java package. cuz for me java installed fine in the kubuntu-restricted-extras package [10:07] mvo i updated with update-manager -d on kubuntu and all worked fine :) [10:07] and sun is 6.13.1 [10:07] and i installed with kubuntu-restricted-extras and it installed fine [10:07] ghostcube: did you use the gtk or the kde frontend? its only a problem with the kde frontend because there is no debconf qt4 frontend [10:08] the only strange thing i have is installing mysql5 will now autoremove akonadi-server- and akonadi-kde [10:08] mvo, i think i used the gtk frontend [10:08] ghostcube: thanks [10:08] update-manager is gtk in generall from konsole or ? [10:08] eagles0513875: its a user bugreport, I don't know how he installed it. but I'm pretty certain the problem is the missing debconf support [10:09] gotcha [10:09] ghostcube: yeah, update-manager is gtk (but the release upgrader component is also available for text and kde) [10:09] mvo, i had this problem too for an kde 3.x to 4.x update with the kde own installer a time ago [10:09] * mvo nods === sabdfl1 is now known as sabdfl [11:19] mvo: we should probably look into writing a debconf frontend for karmic? [11:19] mvo: for jaunty just refusing to upgrade would be acceptable if you think that's possible as a SRU [12:30] Riddell: Would you please do the backport in bug 367131? It's a blocker for 4.2.2 and I'd like to get started on that while the buildds are still not very busy. [12:30] Launchpad bug 367131 in intrepid-backports "Please backport libical0 (0.43-2ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1) from Jaunty to Intrepid" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/367131 [12:34] ScottK: version number was the query [12:35] 02:09 < Riddell> ScottK: that bug asks for libical 0.43-2ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1 [12:35] 02:09 < Riddell> jaunty has 0.43-2 [12:35] 02:09 < Riddell> you want the 0.43-2 version? [12:35] Riddell: I missed that. [12:35] Let me see. [12:39] Riddell: 0.43-2. There is no ubuntu1, the versioning in the PPA is just unfortunate. [12:51] groovy, backported [13:04] OK. Here we go then. [13:25] * Riddell keeps hands inside the carrage [13:25] * seele sighs [13:26] kpackagekit has some problems, doesn't it [13:26] and theyre different problems from adept so it is impossible to figure out if switching was a good idea or not [13:26] * seele pokes her eye with a stick [13:27] ouch! [13:27] compared to adept its much better organized [13:28] yes, but barfing a forking error every time you update is unreasonable [13:29] * eagles0513875 swears at having to try and revoke his gpg key oon launcpad [13:33] seele: is that the timeout error? [13:40] I've uploaded a version with a raised timeout to my PPA [13:41] Riddell: yeah [13:42] mm, 4.2.3 in two days time [13:51] seele: try packagekit from my ppa deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/jr/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main [13:51] see if that helps [14:02] there is a "© 2005-2008 Canonical Ltd" on kubuntu.org, should be 2009? [14:04] I suspect that applies to the theme (stolen from ubuntu.com) rather than the content (which is community made) [14:07] sure, should be changed in the theme, but maybe this is not a high priority bug :) [14:07] kpackagekit is written in c++, right? [14:11] correct [14:16] finally Kubuntu at work :) [14:22] :) [14:22] JontheEchidna: do you have any kdelibs insight? [14:22] a|wen: in regards to what? [14:25] JontheEchidna: is the file /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/designer/kdewidgets.so placed correctly, or shouldn't that be /usr/lib/kde4/plugins/designer/kdewidgets.so ? [14:25] hm [14:25] it's a plugin for a qt app [14:26] Riddell: so location is correct? [14:26] I'd say so [14:26] but check it works still [14:27] milian: /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/designer/kdewidgets.so should be the right placement ... what exactly caused you trouble regarding it? [14:36] seele: I can't recreate that packagekit issue today. have you had any luck with the package in the PPA? [14:38] Riddell: haven't restarted kde yet.. i will after my meeting (20 minutes) [14:38] Riddell: i am noticing another bug but its probably not related to seele's but i have noticed after changing the sources it refuses to reload them [14:41] refuses? [14:41] what sort of changes? [14:42] Riddell: any kinda whether it be adding source code repos pre release switching which repos are used [14:42] i hit reload and the same box comes back up asking me to reload or close [14:42] i end up updating my repos via command line [14:42] rollocks [14:43] what do you mean [14:45] just annoyed at what sounds like a significant problem [14:46] do you recommend filing a bug against the new package manager [14:46] yeah I guess so [14:46] kpackagekit [14:46] there may well already be one [14:46] ill look and if need be confirm it [14:47] uck is giving me grief as well [14:50] Riddell: Would you please accept the kde4libs in Intrepid (backports). The LP U/I is giving me fits right now. [14:51] k [14:52] ScottK: done [14:53] Riddell: Thanks. [14:55] I wonder if we should organise a meeting to discuss UDS plans [14:55] I wonder who's even going to UDS [14:56] Riddell: not sur if you would like to confirm this bug [14:56] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kpackagekit/+bug/367972 [14:56] Ubuntu bug 367972 in kpackagekit "kpackagekit fails to update repos after changing source list" [Undecided,New] [14:57] Riddell: wasn't that supposed to be decided months ago? [14:59] Riddell: +1 for your PPA scheme! that looks very sane to me [15:00] Hobbsee: which? [15:00] Riddell: who's going to UDS [15:01] maybe, doesn't mean I know about it [15:01] * ScottK probably ought to make some travel arrangements. [15:01] ah [15:02] Riddell: didn't have any problems updating a few things from your ppa, so hopefully it's fixed [15:06] * jussi01 wishes he was going.... [15:21] Does anybody have problems using firefox on jaunty Kubuntu? [15:22] what kind of problem [15:22] I can't retrieve websites anymore [15:22] I can enter the url into the address field, but I can not start it to download it [15:23] you probably have it set to working offline [15:24] No [15:24] I tried that [15:25] rm -r ~/.mozilla :) [15:27] there was another nasty bug i found on launch pad that i found in regards to firefox [15:27] it some how was causing this persons pc to use 90% of processor [15:30] Riddell: same difference [15:30] txwikinger_work: using network manager? [15:30] no don't think so [15:31] you aren't? [15:31] maybe firefox expects you to use network manager [15:31] it is not really the downloading.. it does not seem to get the event [15:31] it does? [15:31] At home I don't use it either [15:31] and firefox works [15:31] dunno, just a thought, this isn't really the place for firefox problems, not my area [15:32] :D [15:32] I only need it because of firebug.. maybe we need to have something like that in Konqui [15:34] Way to veer back on topic. [15:34] lol === dpm_ is now known as dpm [15:38] * seele grumbles about openoffice STILL not supporting transparent pngs [15:40] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UDSKarmic/Attendees is lacking any Kubuntu types [15:42] The sarcastic reply is we figure there's no point in going since Ayatana is just going to design it for us anyway. [15:42] The true reply is I figured I'd add myself after I get travel plans. [15:44] * txwikinger_work has not gotten any response [15:46] txwikinger_work: response from what? [15:46] canonical [15:46] txwikinger_work: about what? [15:46] if I get sponsored [15:47] let me ask [15:47] Who is packaging the networkmanager plasmoid? [15:48] Riddell: I'm planning to attend UDS, but canot find the invitation email anymore [15:48] Needed to clear some things up before I could say that I can attend, but that's happened now [15:52] sebas: jcastro says he'll resend [15:52] Riddell: ah cool, thanks [15:52] txwikinger_work: ask jcastro (he says he e-mailed you at the time) [15:53] ok.. I will [15:53] As to the networkmanager plasmoid, in the archives there's a pretty outdated snapshot [15:53] The most critical issues are fixed in current svn, so an update would make a lot of sense [15:53] Will has also fixed the build on top of 4.2, if that was the reason [15:54] sebas: there's no paticular person tasked to packaging it. me and others looked at svn versions about three and one week before release and it seemed to be more buggy [15:54] sebas: but if now is a good time to do a package an update would indeed make a lot of sense [15:54] last week fixed quite some bugs [15:54] Riddell: the only problem which seems to still be around is static ip issue [15:55] eagles0513875: filed a bug? [15:55] preferably on bugs.kde.org [15:55] eagles0513875: WPA is said to be broken, got told of problems with WEP today [15:55] https://launchpad.net/bugs/339313 [15:55] I'm using it with WPA, and I'm connected [15:55] Ubuntu bug 339313 in ubuntu-release-notes "Kubuntu Jaunty: Cannot Connect To Wireless Network with WEP shared key" [Undecided,Fix released] [15:55] so it's at least not totally borked [15:56] I doubt it's overall more broken than that snapshot though [15:56] sebas: i think it was WPA2 that had some problems, whereas WPA1 did work okay [15:56] Riddell: im connected to wpa as we speak as well as at home [15:57] a|wen: I can't test that unfortunately [15:57] sebas: no i have not yet in regards to the static ip issue [15:57] * a|wen can't test that either [16:01] open week starting in #ubuntu-classroom [16:04] hmm and I'm down to do a talk today, what should I say? [16:05] sebas: I had a problem with nm-applet keeping to ask for my password, and refusing to connect... though it worked once [16:05] sebas: haven't properly investigated though :/ [16:05] nm-applet not really sebas's concern :) [16:06] Sput: that's the GNOME applet, I don't know its code [16:06] sebas: can't networkmanager connect to wireless pre-login, btw? [16:06] sebas: I meant networkmanager-applet :) [16:06] That one's fixed, Sput :) [16:06] update from svn [16:06] nm-applet fails similarly though, it stores the password in its keyring and then prompts me again... displaying the password *hash* [16:06] sebas: ah ok, very recently? I thought I tested with some version last week [16:07] ooooh. intel guys fixed KMS compeltely broken for my card. [16:09] Sput: yeah, very recently [16:09] iirc that is [16:11] sebas: ok, I can try again :) [16:11] currently I keep switching between wicd and networkmanager *g* [16:12] yeah, networkmanager in kde4 is not quite ready for prime time [16:12] but constantly getting closer [16:12] One of the more visibly lacking things is proper artwork === mars_ is now known as marseillai [16:15] hugs to sebas and will for working on it [16:16] * |eagles051387| hugs all the dev's for creating the best distro around [16:17] yay! === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: You are beautiful! | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKarmicSpecs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KarmicKDEMerges [16:19] sebas: ah yes, I see a lot of commits since I last updated [16:19] will try again :) [16:21] Riddell: Reading the backscroll I'm glad we left KNetworkManager on the DvD. [16:21] ScottK: mm, totally [16:25] <|eagles051387|> if anyone needs me to test something let me know === |eagles051387| is now known as eagles0513875 === hunger_ is now known as hunger [16:34] sebas: fun, after upgrading to current drm-intel-next kernel, I can't suspend/resume via commandline (hibernate-ram) script anymore, but PowerDevil has stopped kicking me out of X and can actually resume now :D [16:35] except that it locks the screen after resuming now :) [16:36] Suspend/resume works fine here on my Intel laptop with my release based distro .... [16:37] anyone know what plasma files you have to rm to get a clean desktop? i've still got old theme files and images [16:37] e.g. the logout image is still skewed when in a new user it is fixed [16:42] seele: rm -r ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* ~/.kde/share/apps/plasma* I'd say [16:42] It's probably pixmapcachages though, not config files [16:46] oh why does my todo list keep getting longer today instead of shorter [16:48] sebas: are those cached somewhere? [16:50] yeah, but I dunno where right now :o [16:50] sebas: clicking any of the wireless connections doesn't do anything [16:52] seele: sebas: ~/.kde4/cache-hostname/kpc? [16:52] Sput: any output in the console? [16:53] (plasmoidviewer networkmanagement to test) [16:53] * sebas << dinner [16:54] dinner is strictly greater than sebas, that's a large dinner! [16:54] hehe :) === rraphink is now known as raphink [17:02] damnit, my plasma bar still isn't transparent [17:02] and the logout menu is still skewed [17:02] hmm [17:03] seele: what desktop style do you use? [17:05] a|wen: default [17:05] so whatever that is [17:06] it's supposed to have a transparent panel or something. i created a new user and all this stuff is fixed, it's just my old account that has weird stuff [17:06] and i can't just rm -rf .kde/ either.. too much important stuff [17:10] delete everythin plasma-related in .kde and delete you kde-cache + kde-tmp while logged out, and the login again ... that would be my best guess [17:11] * a|wen goes hunting for the missing letters in his sentences [17:12] a|wen: i did [17:12] that's why i'm confused [17:12] is there anything outside .kde i should be removing? [17:13] I turned compositing off, removed ~/.kde/cache-hostname/kpc/*, then turned desktop effects back on [17:13] and now my panel is transparent [17:14] hmm.. what/where is the compositing option? [17:14] desktop effects == compostiing [17:15] JontheEchidna: when you log out is the Moon image skewed like in intrepid or is it fixed? [17:16] Only if I had compositing on, then turn it off [17:16] the dialog gets a weird border, and the moon is stretched [17:16] wow [17:16] yeah.. i got it now.. thanks :) [17:17] :) [17:33] JontheEchidna: do you have any impressive stats on how many bugs you've triaged? [17:33] I haven't really been keeping track [17:34] JontheEchidna: any impressive numbers I can wow an audience with? [17:34] can i ask a question in regards to triaging bugs or should i ask elsewhere [17:35] you may [17:35] is triaging a bug one where a bug cannot be reproduced? [17:35] According to Launchpad, I have over 5,000 bugs related to me: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~echidnaman/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INVALID&field.status%3Alist=WONTFIX&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field. [17:35] status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=FIXRELEASED&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_cve.used=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY [17:36] * JontheEchidna really hates the size of launchpad search urls [17:36] lol [17:37] JontheEchidna: do we have a minion again? [17:37] we need minions [17:37] * apachelogger remembers saying something that everyone who applies for mofu must first get in a new minion [17:37] well im working on confirming bugs [17:38] eagles0513875: are you capable of doing proper bug forwarding as well? ;-) [17:38] apachelogger: im willing ot learn [17:38] *to [17:39] JontheEchidna: take bug 333528 and get eagles0513875 filled in on the finer points of upstreaming please :) [17:39] Launchpad bug 333528 in kdeedu "step hangs trivially" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/333528 [17:39] im currently fixedmy pgp key on launchpad which im currently trying to sign ubuntu code of conduct which isnt working for some reason but thats besides the point [17:39] :) === barteqx is now known as siekacz [17:40] * eagles0513875 still waiting [17:42] sorry [17:42] Ok, so basically forwarding bugs means filing a bug with KDE [17:42] its ok JontheEchidna i understand your busy [17:43] JontheEchidna: ok [17:43] actually I was watching yotube :P [17:43] so much for work [17:43] anyway, we need to give the kde developers as much info as possible [17:43] JontheEchidna: can i pm ya with something offtopic [17:43] so once we get enough info we file bugs at bugs.kde.org [17:43] eagles0513875: sure [17:44] * eagles0513875 love the name for 9.10 [17:45] let me see if I can find a good example... [17:45] ok [17:46] JontheEchidna: can I assign a bug to you, so that it gets taken care of for karmic? .... it's about a main inclusion [17:46] bug 333528 [17:46] Launchpad bug 333528 in kdeedu "step hangs trivially" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/333528 [17:46] bug 66362 rather :) [17:46] Launchpad bug 66362 in kdeedu "Equation Solver not enabled in Kalzium" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66362 [17:46] sure [17:47] is the new konversation4 gonna be included in karmic [17:47] I think it's pretty safe to say that we'll upgrade konversation to its KDE4 version in Karmic [17:47] I've been using it for a month or so and it's pretty good as it is [17:48] someone was talking bout i think there is no newer package or something of it in the ppa's [17:48] im willing to package it if need be [17:49] ok, so here's an example of a bug I forwarded: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=185061 [17:49] KDE bug 185061 in general "KSysGuard crashes in KSignalPlotter::beamColor() on exit after importing sheet" [Crash,New] [17:49] Actually, I forgot to include the link to the bug at launchpad [17:49] but it's bug 332187 [17:49] JontheEchidna: question when you backtrace. you need the dbg package installed right [17:50] Launchpad bug 332187 in kdebase "Reproducible crash in kde system monitor when editing a sheet" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332187 [17:50] eagles0513875: yes [17:50] ok :) [17:50] Nightrose: bug 316256 [17:50] Launchpad bug 316256 in kdeedu "parley crashes after multi-choice quiz" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/316256 [17:50] apachelogger: looking [17:51] eagles0513875: so in the case of bug 33528 you'd file an upstream bug saying "This bug was originally reported at https://launchpad.net/bugs/332187" and then give the reproduction steps and backtrace [17:51] Ubuntu bug 332187 in kdebase "Reproducible crash in kde system monitor when editing a sheet" [Unknown,Confirmed] [17:51] Launchpad bug 33528 in gbib "starting gbib produces segmentation fault in breezy" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33528 [17:51] JontheEchidna: gotcha [17:52] apachelogger: will poke Daniel about it again [17:52] Nightrose: kthx [17:52] eagles0513875: then you'd go back to the launchpad bug, open up the "KDE Educational Application" task, and put that url in [17:53] JontheEchidna: just link back to the bug filed upstream [17:53] you see on the bug where it says "KDE Educational Applications"? [17:53] give me a sec [17:55] Riddell: can i pm ya with a quick question [17:56] JontheEchidna: i see what your saying under assigned to you put the link to the upstream bug report [17:56] exactly [17:56] eagles0513875: try it and see :) [17:56] lol :( you got me scared now Riddell [17:56] apachelogger: Daniel says he dosn't think anything was done there [17:57] Nightrose: upstream bug should be confirmed I guess :) [17:57] hmmm [17:58] hey [17:58] for asking for an update of the package list, shall I write to the mail list? [17:58] the kubuntu package that is on the package list of Adept, is not the up to date version... [17:59] Arminius: you should file a reports at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu [18:00] ok thx ;) [18:00] apachelogger: didn't we have a bug like bug 367164 before? [18:00] Launchpad bug 367164 in kdebase-workspace ""Set date and time automatically" doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/367164 [18:00] * JontheEchidna is having a hard time finding it [18:04] JontheEchidna: about rooting not working? [18:04] i just want some feedback for you guys. i end up stripping kde back to command line then installing only kdebase would it be possible to include a 3rd version where kubuntu comes with nothing but base kde to allow for installing of what ever the end user wants. i am not sure if it is just me or not but it is a million times faster [18:04] that one is in kdesudo and hopefully fixed [18:05] oh yeah, it was a kdesudo issue [18:05] no cookies for tonio :P [18:05] this is a rather nasty and annoying bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/349445 [18:05] JontheEchidna, eagles0513875: bug 357511 needs forwarding [18:05] Ubuntu bug 349445 in plasma-widget-network-manager "[jaunty] sometimes network manager asks for a WPA-Key although it is stored in KDE wallet" [Undecided,Confirmed] [18:05] Launchpad bug 357511 in kdeedu "SVG export in Kmplot doesn't work properly" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/357511 [18:06] eagles0513875: poke sebas with it [18:06] sebas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/349445 [18:06] * eagles0513875 feels really good helping improve kubuntu [18:28] JontheEchidna: maybe you should bump https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18373 [18:28] Freedesktop bug 18373 in desktop-entry "Current desktop file spec unclear on validity of non-set Path entry" [Normal,New] [18:40] can software updates authenticate against ldap? [18:43] JontheEchidna: did you post a bug upstream yet bug # 357511 or would you like me to do that [18:44] eagles0513875: I was going to let you do it [18:44] JontheEchidna: i was going to just wanted to make sure you did do it while i was eating dinner [18:45] ok, that's cool [18:46] JontheEchidna: bugs.kde.org [18:46] yeah [18:49] * eagles0513875 forgot my bugs.kde.org password lol [18:50] eagles0513875: please update to the latest version in SVN, I'm almost sure it's fixed [18:50] Or poke someone to update the package in the archive [18:50] sebas: apachelogger told me to poke you about it [18:50] I saw that, doesn't change anything wrt the above :) [18:50] sebas: what repos is it in [18:51] Wait ... poke apachelogger to update the packages :) [18:51] main, I guess [18:51] I just installed the package today and saw that it's way outdated [18:51] apachelogger: can you update the package for network manager re the bug i linked earlier [18:51] So bugreports right now aren't useful unless you're running svn [18:51] it tends to become that way after release :P [18:52] conclusion: don't ship code that's in playground? [18:52] eagles0513875: can't, too little time ... ask JontheEchidna or Tonio_ [18:52] It has up and downsides [18:52] sebas: I would have shipped nm-applet to be honest :D [18:52] sebas: this is much better then knetworkmanager [18:52] Keeps us on the toes, but also yields a lot of fixed-already-bugreports [18:52] hey JontheEchidna [18:53] apachelogger: I would have called that a smart move, tbh :) [18:53] sebas: why not have it added karmic [18:53] anyway, I suppose we could just push a more recent snapshot to jaunty-backports [18:53] eagles0513875: don't ask me, I'm just a developer but haven't been involved with that decision [18:53] Probably because we *tried* to get it in shape in time, but that didn't happen yet [18:54] eagles0513875: karmic is not open for uploads yet [18:54] apachelogger: well, no one wants that ancient SVN snapshot in main, so updating that makes way more sense [18:54] a|wen: is there a wishlist for stuff to be added to karmic [18:54] Assuming it actually is in main [18:55] eagles0513875: it's called your personal TODO list :) [18:55] eagles0513875: well; updated packages of everything ;) [18:55] ya lol [18:56] sebas: you should drop a mail to the list ... indeed it makes sense, then again we wouldn't want to risk regression so it shoudl go through a prelonged testing stage and stuff, which then again makes it outdated once it is in jaunty-updates ... but in theory it would make a lot of sense :) [18:56] JontheEchidna: how many people do you think there are looking out for Kubuntu bugs? [18:57] hmm [18:58] lex79 does some work on bugs [18:58] apachelogger: tbh, I'm quite extremely busy this week, and I don't even use the package [18:58] running trunk makes more sense since I often end up fixing the bugs [18:58] JontheEchidna: bug 47133 needs uberforwarding [18:58] Launchpad bug 47133 in kdemultimedia "MP3-support should be hidden when lame is not installed" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47133 [18:59] apachelogger: what was that bug that you linked earlier trying to consolidate open browsers and accidentally closed the bug [18:59] sebas: oh dear, that sounds like "nah, you do it" :P [18:59] Riddell: apachelogger was the other big triager, until his employment [18:59] eagles0513875: dunno, read backlog [18:59] JontheEchidna: yes a bit :) [19:00] JontheEchidna: you need to go recruit em nasty triagers [19:00] * a|wen tries to care for kubuntu packages in universe [19:00] well im helping confirm bugs when i can [19:01] yeah, the MOTUs do a good job looking after universe [19:01]