[00:49] <Kangarooo> Hello!
[00:51] <Kangarooo> i want a filter all lauchpad emails .. how can i do that? i searched launchpad but it gives more.. i searched launchpad.net bug question but it doesn show anything.. how to view all launchpad emails? what i should search in gmail?
[00:53] <mwhudson> Kangarooo: have you seen http://blog.launchpad.net/bug-tracking/gmail-filters-for-launchpad-bug-email ?
[00:54] <Kangarooo> yeeey thx :) i hope there ill find answer- looks like that from url.. :) and there can i find more helpfull launchpad using tips or somewhere else? :)
[00:55] <mwhudson> there is stuff on help.launchpad.net
[00:55] <mwhudson> (tbh, the filtering is about the only area in which gmail isn't clearly the best MUA -- i don't understand what's so hard about filtering on arbitrary headers)
[00:56] <Kangarooo> eh.. actually with that link- there is no solution 4 searching all bug and question emails from launchpad.. :(
[00:58] <Kangarooo> searching launcpad.net gives also ubuntu mailing lists and answers.launchpad.net show question emails but doesnt gives launchpad bug emails from bugs.launchpad.net
[01:00] <mwhudson> i guess you might need more than one rule
[01:17] <Kangarooo> Hello! i found BIG bug in Launchpad.. Emails to Team Members are not possible to put in one Launchpad search so also not in one big Launchpad label
[01:18] <Kangarooo> i now wanted to add all emails from launchpad to be in 1 label launchpad but if team This message was sent from Launchpad by the user XXX (https://launchpad.net/~XXX) using the "Contact this team" link on the XXX team page to each member directly. For more information see https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ContactingPeople
[01:20] <Kangarooo> this messege as all other that directet to team users from launchpad im not able to  search with other emails from launchpad
[01:21] <wgrant> Kangarooo: Such messages have an X-Launchpad-Rationale header, like any other Launchpad email.
[01:23] <Kangarooo> what that? ok better how to search all emails from launchpad and launchpad emails like this last i descibed?
[01:23] <CarlFK> booted live cd into rescue mode: root w/ networking.  ran grub, kenrel vmlinux = segfauilt.  trying to report with ubuntu-but, which launched ... lynx I think...
[01:24] <CarlFK> it isn't accepting my login - do I need to enable cookies?
[01:24] <wgrant> Kangarooo: Filter on the X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale header field.
[01:25] <Kangarooo> so i need to put in search: X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale ? ok did that.. 0 results..
[01:25] <wgrant> You need to tell it that it's a header field.
[01:26] <Kangarooo> in search and in filter there is no field for header so.. cant search headers..
[01:26] <wgrant> Which email client are you using?
[01:26] <Kangarooo> gmail
[01:27] <wgrant> Ah. Ahahah.
[01:27] <Kangarooo> yes the most used one on planet earth.. stupid ppl with their gmail :)
[01:59] <mwhudson> ah damn, i should have clicked the buglink before removing it from the topic :)
[02:00] <Snova> I can't even load it.
[02:38] <Rafik> Hello, have somebody already reported the IOError happening now ?
[02:38] <mwhudson> Rafik: no?
[02:38] <Rafik> IOError
[02:38] <Rafik> A server error occurred.
[02:39] <mwhudson> hm
[02:39] <mwhudson> servers are being restarted at the moment
[02:39] <mwhudson> try again?
[02:40] <Rafik> now I receive an oops : Error ID: OOPS-1213EB381
[02:40] <Rafik> now it's ok
[02:40] <Ursinha> Rafik, this must be consequence of the servers being restarted
[02:40] <Rafik> yep
[02:40] <Rafik> thanks
[02:41] <mwhudson> yeah, me too
[02:41] <Rafik> it was just unusual to have such IOError
[02:41] <Rafik> i'm on the edge environment
[02:42] <Ursinha> Rafik, is it working now?
[02:42] <mwhudson> Rafik: yeah, non-edge should be fine
[02:42] <Rafik> Ursinha> yes, it's working fine
[05:12] <doctormo> I'm packaging up a binary driver which has a license which allows redistribtion, what's the rules on putting in on my ppa?
[06:55] <LaserJock> hi all, I noticed that I get a "permission denied" page when I try to do a team search for "canonical"
[06:56] <LaserJock> obviously there are likely private teams, but surely the non-private ones should show up on a search
[06:59] <spiv> LaserJock: sounds like a bug
[07:36] <wgrant> LaserJock: That was fixed a week or so ago.
[07:37] <LaserJock> wgrant: ok, I'm not running edge
[08:09] <Coke> Hi. Not really launchpad-related, but surely launchpad-generated ;) question here: what service do you use to get a webpage with screenshots and project-specific mailinglists? So far, all I can do with launchpad is host my code.
[08:11] <wgrant> Coke: Launchpad does mailing lists too, and I think screenshots would go on your project's homepage.
[08:12] <Coke> wgrant: it only has team mailing lists
[08:12] <Coke> wgrant: while it may suffice, it is also misleading since I'd setup a mailinglist primarely for a specific project rather than a development team.
[08:13] <wgrant> Coke: It has mailing lists that happen to be linked to teams, because a mailing list is a group of people. That doesn't mean that a team isn't associated with a project.
[08:13] <wgrant> IIRC they were going to work on linking projects and teams next release.
[08:14] <Coke> wgrant: what if I make a new project with new people, I need a new team to make a new unrelated mailing list?
[08:14] <wgrant> Coke: Yes. Teams are cheap./
[08:14] <Coke> wgrant: and frivolous to my work
[08:15] <Coke> wgrant: I'm currently spreading out the project over three different sites
[08:16] <wgrant> Coke: Is it particularly arduous to create an object representing a group of people in order to have something for that group of people?
[08:17] <Coke> wgrant: it's one extra step for every project
[08:17] <Coke> wgrant: also, since the team, for me at least, wouldn't represent any real group, it'd just be a placeholder
[08:18] <lifeless> Coke: there are bugs open about this already
[08:18] <wgrant> Coke: Right, there have been extensions to the project registration UI proposed to allow easy creation of the usual teams.
[08:18] <lifeless> Coke: some thoughts though, if I may
[08:18] <Coke> Please.
[08:18] <lifeless> Coke: firstly, projects may have N teas
[08:18] <lifeless> *teams*
[08:18] <wgrant> Coke: It is a real group. The group of subscribers to the mailing list.
[08:18] <lifeless> secondly, you may want lists without a project
[08:18] <lifeless> for instance, a list coordinating many projects
[08:18] <Coke> wgrant: as I understand it, subscribers and team members are not the same thing
[08:18] <lifeless> Coke: they are the same thing
[08:18] <Coke> lifeless: indeed.
[08:18] <wgrant> Coke: Right, the team members are a superset of the suscribers.
[08:19] <Coke> For huge project I could see a purpose of this grouping
[08:19] <Coke> Can a team have multiple lists?
[08:19] <lifeless> Coke: they are the same in that: if you are not in the group you cannot be subscribed; and if you don't want to receive mail but you want to e.g. read online, you still need to be in the group
[08:19] <wgrant> No - the list carries the name of the team.
[08:20] <lifeless> Coke: 'subscription' is just 'the folk that have the mailman 'deliver mail' flag turned on.
[08:20] <Coke> Ah. So to have -users and -devel I'd have to setup two teams?
[08:20] <wgrant> lifeless: You can read the archives of non-private lists without being a member.
[08:20] <wgrant> Coke: Yes.
[08:20] <Coke> That's not good at all.
[08:20] <wgrant> Why not?
[08:20] <lifeless> wgrant: yes, but please think about this for a couple of seconds :)
[08:20] <Coke> wgrant: unless you actually have teams and use them in practice it's useless
[08:21] <lifeless> Coke: I assure you, the internals of every mailing list manager look the same here
[08:21] <wgrant> Coke: It's not useless - they have mailing lists attached
[08:21] <Coke> wgrant: but what team? I don't have a team
[08:21] <lifeless> woah guys
[08:21] <lifeless> stop
[08:21] <lifeless> please
[08:21] <Coke> wgrant: the mailing list subscribers are the casual users of my software
[08:22] <lifeless> Coke: to have a group of people receive mail, with the ability to configure and tweak their settings, you need a group of people recorded somewhere.
[08:22] <lifeless> Coke: in launchpad that is *called* 'Team'.
[08:22] <Coke> lifeless: mailmain subscriptions and I don't configure and tweak their settings.
[08:22] <Coke> lifeless: they apply to the mailinglist via usual subscribe and tweak their own settings
[08:23] <lifeless> Coke: works exactly the same for launchpad, in fact we use mailman
[08:23] <Coke> As an example, I just added a mailing list to a project on a nother host, since the creation I did not touch any settings, yet the mailing list grows and lives.
[08:23] <lifeless> Coke: you wouldn't need to touch lots of settings in launchpad
[08:24] <Coke> lifeless: so people can subscribe without me even noticing?
[08:24] <wgrant> You just need to create an open team, create the list, ignore.
[08:24] <lifeless> Coke: is there some reason you think you would need to? What is the thing you are actually objecting to?
[08:24] <wgrant> Coke: If it's an open team, you don't need to know.
[08:24] <Coke> lifeless: I want to create _only_ a mailing list with least possible administrative work
[08:24] <Coke> I have no team so it makes no sense for me to create a team
[08:24] <Coke> The mailing list users are certainly not part of my team either.
[08:25] <lifeless> Coke: I think you are arguing for the sake of arguing, or you are attaching more meaning to the word team than it carries in launchpad
[08:25] <Coke> lifeless: possibly
[08:25] <lifeless> it would possibly be better if we changed the UI to say 'group' rather than 'team', but it currently says 'team' because thats where it started out.
[08:25] <Coke> I'm assuming a team has special rights for projects, etc.
[08:25] <lifeless> no
[08:26] <Coke> So what a team is only for maintaining mailnig lists?
[08:26] <lifeless> its a group of people
[08:26] <lifeless> it can be a list
[08:26] <Coke> I can create 3 teams for my one project to have three different mailing lists?
[08:26] <lifeless> yes
[08:27] <Coke> Ok, I can live with the extra administrative task of creating a team before creating a mailing list.
[08:27] <wgrant> A team is just some group of people. For bug subscriptions, or assignments. For privileges. For branch ownership. For mailing lists. For polluting the namespace. For adding useless emblems to your listing. There are lots of good reasons.
[08:27] <Coke> wgrant: well, I understand that
[08:27] <lifeless> Coke: its a single button click in the team once you create it
[08:27] <Coke> I like the idea of grouping users, I just don't see why mailing lists had to be tied down to that functionality
[08:28] <lifeless> Coke: because you have to have a group to send mail to them :)
[08:28] <Coke> it's two completely different things imo
[08:28] <wgrant> Isn't a mailing list a group of users? Isn't that the point?
[08:28] <Coke> lifeless: sure, but that group is self-maintained in my case.
[08:28] <Coke> fluid and unknown
[08:28] <lifeless> Coke: and it is in launchpad too
[08:29] <Coke> lifeless: it will work, but I still don't see why a group of launchpad users has to be connected to a group of email addresses
[08:29] <Coke> they have nothing to do with eachother in my case
[08:30] <lifeless> Coke: well, I can understand your point of view
[08:31] <Coke> Is the name of the list based on the name of the team?
[08:31] <lifeless> but I don't subscribe to it, because with a list you still need to validate addresses (to stop spammers signing people up), and so on
[08:31] <lifeless> it is the name of the team
[08:31] <lifeless> or the name of the team is the name of the list, if you prefer :)
[08:31] <Coke> lifeless: naw, I don't verify.
[08:31] <Coke> lifeless: I occationally block.
[08:31] <lifeless> Coke: mailman's subscription process does that
[08:32] <Coke> right.
[08:32] <lifeless> which means that it is still happening :)
[08:32] <Coke> Still, my team will be a placeholder only with me as only real member, rest are simply subscribers.
[08:32] <Coke> I dare not press "Create"
[08:33] <Coke> Can I remove it if I make a test one?
[08:34] <lifeless> if you want to experiment, use staging.launchpad.net
[08:34] <lifeless> you can do whatever you like there, its deleted daily
[08:35] <wgrant> (and it doesn't send email)
[08:35] <Coke> lifeless: yeh, I created a branch for one project that got screwed up, I couldn't push to it or use it in any way, so I created a new one and now I have two since I cannot delete the first one.
[08:36] <wgrant> Coke: You'll see a delete button next to the title of the branch.
[08:37] <Coke> wgrant: I'm looking at the code overview
[08:37] <Coke> cannot find "delete" on that page
[08:37] <wgrant> Coke: On the branch page.
[08:37] <wgrant> Not the listing.
[08:38] <wgrant> There's a bin icon to the right of the title.
[08:38] <Coke> where title says "Bazaar branches of <project>" ?
[08:38] <wgrant> Coke: No, that's the listing page. Go into the actual branch.
[08:38] <lifeless> click on the name of the branch
[08:38] <wgrant> The title is something like 'lp:blah'
[08:39] <Coke> found it
[08:39] <Coke> I had to enter the branch details page
[08:39] <Coke> I like the UI a lot, but I'd like a skin with text instead of Icons.
[08:40] <Coke> I really really don't like graphical user interfaces.
[08:40] <Coke> But if I have to use them I usually prefer the button to say "Close" rather than hve an image that I have to interpret. :)
[08:41] <Coke> never understood why people find icons easier to understand than plain text. might be to save space? dunno.
[08:42] <spiv> Coke: "A picture is worth 1000 words".  If it's a very small picture like an icon it might still be worth a couple of words ;)
[08:43] <Coke> spiv: bah, humbug! there's a reason chinese are now moving on to alphabet. ever see a collation table for hieroglyphs? :)
[08:43] <wgrant> But if it's the current Launchpad delete or edit icon, they're well known to not be worth much.
[08:43] <lifeless> Coke: chinese use ideograms don't they ?
[08:43] <Coke> wgrant: they are too small and cannot be easily searched for, that's all.
[08:43] <Coke> lifeless: well, true
[08:43] <lifeless> :)
[08:44] <Coke> lifeless: might even be that hieroglyphs are phonetic, I don't know
[08:44] <wgrant> Coke: Those two are particularly notorious.
[08:44] <Coke> in any case, both will eventually die out in the name of efficiency. hehe.
[08:45] <Coke> Do you guys use some host in particular for the project website?
[08:46] <wgrant> Some projects use a cheap general webhost, others use a VPS, we use a relevant server lying around uni somewhere...
[08:46] <Coke> Ok, I'll just stick with freshmeat for some screenies
[08:46] <Coke> Any possibility of launchpad setting up a simple http server with virtual hosts?
[08:47] <mwhudson> it's been talked about
[08:52] <lifeless> alternatively a wiki per project
[08:52] <lifeless> or some mix
[08:52] <Coke> lifeless: wiki would be nice, but it involves a lot more development from launchpad team
[08:53] <Coke> a virtual http host would literally take them an hour to setup, hehe.
[09:03] <sp_> Coke: maybe for the initial setup, but securing that one, especially if people want/need PHP, CGI or databases, (and people will want that too), will probably take a lot longer and require a lot more time for everyday administration
[09:04] <sp_> A built-in wiki probably won't need that much extra time for securing the setup, but requires some time to be developed :)
[09:12] <Coke> sp_: this could be rather easily solved by making just the front page wiki formatted
[09:13] <Coke> Ok, it wouldn't be a full wiki solution, but it would keep it small and tidy
[09:38] <philn> hi
[09:39] <philn> when i create a bug using launchpadlib and get bug's self_link i get something like: https://api.edge.launchpad.net/beta/bugs/367800
[09:39] <philn> but i see a traceback when i open that url
[09:41] <Coke> Is there a way to link to a specific subpage of a project? Like myproject/code or myproject/answers?
[09:41] <thekorn> philn, yes, because the correct url to this bug in the web ui is https://edge.launchpad.net/bugs/367800
[09:42] <thekorn> philn, so you have to drop "api." and "beta/"
[09:42] <philn> thekorn: isn't there a way to get a valid url with the api?
[09:42] <tsimpson> thekorn: all you need is the bug ID, it's just https://edge.launchpad.net/bugs/<BugID>
[09:43] <thekorn> philn, no there is not api method, but you can construct the url like tsimpson said
[09:43] <philn> ok .
[09:44]  * tsimpson drinks more coffee before addressing the wrong person again
[09:44] <tsimpson> it's only the 3rd time in the last hour :|
[10:47] <wgrant> philn: You might want to use staging.launchpad.net to avoid polluting the real database.
[10:48] <philn> wgrant: ok, sorry
[14:09] <cjwatson> Is there a mail server running for staging.launchpad.net? I'd like to test a fix for bug 246307, and would rather not use production if possible
[14:10] <beuno> cjwatson, staging doesn't send out emails
[14:10] <beuno> cjwatson, there's an inbox that some people can check
[14:12] <cjwatson> beuno: I'm not interested in sending out e-mails; as you'll see if you look at the bug, I'm interested in sending a mail *to* staging to find out whether it handles it correctly
[14:12] <beuno> ah
[14:13] <beuno> kiko, staging recieved email, right?
[14:19] <XiXaQ> I'm on a notify list for a bug, so that whenever someone adds a comment or changes something, then I get an email. However, when I open that bug to have a look at it and to post a comment, the checkbox that determines whether you should be notified or not, is not checked.
[14:19] <XiXaQ> shouldn't that know that I'm already on the list and make sure it's checked, and if I wanted to remove myself from the list, simply uncheck the same box I used to add myself to the list?
[15:39] <eagles0513875> hey guys i am trying to validate an old pgp key i created a while back and im havin some issues :(
[15:41] <eagles0513875> i dont have my secret key :(
[15:41] <eagles0513875> can anyone help me
[15:42] <LarstiQ> eagles0513875: what are you trying to do?
[15:46] <eagles0513875> upload my pgp key to launchpad
[15:46] <eagles0513875> its an old key i created a while back
[15:46] <LarstiQ> eagles0513875: if you don't have the secret key, you can't use it anymore
[15:46] <LarstiQ> eagles0513875: either you'll need to find the secret key, or create a new one
[15:46] <eagles0513875> ok
[15:48] <eagles0513875> LarstiQ: what i find strange though when i do sudo gpg --fingerprint its picking up my 2 old keys
[15:49] <LarstiQ> eagles0513875: --fingerprint uses solely the public key information
[15:49] <LarstiQ> eagles0513875: try -K to see a list of secret keys available
[15:52] <eagles0513875> what would secret key look like
[15:53] <LarstiQ> eagles0513875: look like where? gpg -K lists _only_ secret keys. Everything listed is a secret key.
[15:53] <eagles0513875> its listing a pub then key fingerprint then uid then sub
[15:54] <LarstiQ> does it start with sec#  ?
[15:54] <eagles0513875> neither of the 2 do
[15:55] <LarstiQ> what keyring does it say it gets the key from?
[15:55] <LarstiQ> eagles0513875: might need gpg --show-keyring -K
[15:59] <eagles0513875> its saying --show-keyring is depreciated
[16:14] <|eagles051387|> LarstiQ: what is the key id im trying to upload a new key
[16:14] <|eagles051387|> !pgp
[17:41] <eagles0513875> There is 1 error.
[17:41] <eagles0513875> (7, 9, 'No public key')
[17:45] <eagles0513875> anyone alive in here
[17:45] <eagles0513875> thats teh error i get up above when i try to sign the ubuntu code of conduct
[17:47] <maxb> eagles0513875: Do you have a PGP key registered with launchpad?
[17:47] <eagles0513875> yes i do mars
[17:47] <eagles0513875> mt maxb ya i do
[17:48] <eagles0513875> what does that error mean
[17:52] <maxb> Well, that was my only guess. You'll need to wait for a help contact to be on duty here, or file a question in the answers tracker
[17:52] <eagles0513875> maxb: question i had 2 other keys which i lost the secret key for that is why i had to recreate do i have to resign the code of conduct again
[17:53] <yann2> hi :) any issue with launchpda today? it seems pretty slow from here
[17:54] <eagles0513875> yann2: dunno if you can help me
[17:54] <eagles0513875> im trying to sign the code of conduct again i have uploaded my pgp key to my profile on launch pad
[17:54] <yann2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 < timeout on that
[17:54] <eagles0513875> There is 1 error.
[17:54] <eagles0513875> (7, 9, 'No public key')
[17:55] <eagles0513875> thats the error i get
[17:55] <yann2> eagles0513875 > I have no idea I'm afraid :)
[17:55] <eagles0513875> :(
[17:55] <yann2> erf thanks ubottu  for confirming :)
[18:01] <eagles0513875> any launchpad experts in here
[18:04] <maxb> If there's no-one around, you can leave a question at http://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[18:08] <eagles0513875> ty btw maxb
[18:31] <alf> Hello, any idea how to change subscription settings for a branch (eg what kind of notifications to receive)? I can't seem to find it!
[18:34] <thekorn> alf, there is an "Edit your subscription" link on a page of the branch you are subscribed to
[18:35] <thekorn> it's a link lik: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~udt-contributors/ubuntu-desktop-testing/ubuntu-desktop-testing/+edit-subscription
[18:36] <thekorn> like, even
[18:41] <alf> thekorn: thanks, I was also looking for changing a team subscription. It is the small pencil like icon in the subscribers list in that page... not so easy to spot!
[19:04] <leifj> Can anyone help me merge two identities or delete one of them - I got myself registered twice
[19:05] <beuno> leifj, sure. Could you file a question in: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad?
[19:05] <beuno> that way we can verify your identity and do it
[19:05] <leifj> absolutely - thanks!
[19:05] <maxb> Why not just use the automatic interface?
[19:05]  * maxb tries to remember url
[19:05] <leifj> didn't know there was one...
[19:05] <leifj> that would be even better
[19:05] <salgado> leifj, if you have access to the email addresses of both accounts, then you can do it yourself
[19:06] <salgado> leifj, https://launchpad.net/people
[19:06] <leifj> that I can do
[19:06] <maxb> https://launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge
[19:06] <leifj> fantastic! thanks
[19:07] <eagles0513875> c/part
[19:13] <leifj> worked like a charm, thanks for the tip guys
[19:23] <leifj> now I'm excited about launchpad but I have a question...
[19:23] <leifj> has anyone talked about integrating launchpad.net with federated identity?
[19:25] <LarstiQ> leifj: I'm familiar with federation, but not federated identity as a term? Although it makes me think of openid.
[19:25] <leifj> openid 2.0 is closest to what I would like even if most of the communities I'm involved with use SAML 2.0
[19:27] <leifj> the big difference from openid 1.0 is that the relying party gets attributes along with an identifier - it would see to be very easy to setup launchpad.net to autocreate users based on attributes (email, displayname, etc) aswell as doing sso
[19:27] <leifj> it would almost be doable exernally from launchpad.net if there was an api for user management that could be used...
[19:27] <LarstiQ> leifj: all I know is that lp is an openid (version?) provider
[19:28] <LarstiQ> leifj: there is an lp api, I don't know how user management is done there
[19:28] <leifj> pointer to the api?
[19:29] <LarstiQ> leifj: https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpadlib I think
[19:33] <leifj> the openid provider is the "wrong" side - its about producing identities, I was talking about consuming identities
[19:33] <leifj> the apis might help when I find docs...
[19:35]  * LarstiQ gets launchpadlib
[19:36] <LarstiQ> leifj: launcpadlib/README.txt mentions https://help.launchpad.net/API
[19:36] <leifj> thx!
[19:44] <leifj> the apis don't support identity creation/import which doesn't really surprise me...
[19:45] <LarstiQ> right
[19:46] <leifj> you'd need a trusted entity which would be allowed to create persons or better still integrate (say) a saml sp or openid op in launchpad.net
[19:46] <leifj> needs to be openid 2.0 or saml 2.0 though - 1.x won't do the job
[19:47] <LarstiQ> leifj: have you considered talking to the launchpad developers? Maybe mail to launchpad-users?
[19:48] <leifj> I guess I should - I'm literaly minutes into this thinking. Federated identity is something I try to apply to all intresting services I come across.
[19:48] <leifj> who should I talk to specifically?
[19:50] <LarstiQ> leifj: I don't know specifics, if the launchpad-users mailing list is not appropriate I'd direct you to kiko
[19:50] <kiko> leifj, what's cookin?
[19:51] <leifj> this seems to be off-topic for a users list - they typically have too much traffic for an individual email to catch the eye of the right people
[19:51] <leifj> cookin?
[19:52] <leifj> oh I see
[20:22] <BenB> I guess it's know that the server has a flu and is extremely low (20-30s per page)?
[20:24] <BenB> slow
[20:29] <rowinggolfer> folks, advise please.
[20:29] <rowinggolfer> I have a project at http://launchpad.net/openmolar
[20:29] <rowinggolfer> I would like to make a deb
[20:30] <rowinggolfer> but I am confused as to exactly what the PPA system does on my behalf
[20:30] <LarstiQ> rowinggolfer: it builds .debs from source uploads, and provides an apt repo for people to add to their sources.list
[20:30] <LarstiQ> rowinggolfer: you still have to do the packaging yourself
[20:31] <rowinggolfer> as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Python ??
[20:31] <mthaddon> BenB: should be returning to normality soon
[20:32] <LarstiQ> rowinggolfer: that seems a thorough tutorial, yes
[20:32] <BenB> mthaddon: so, you're on it, good, thanks.
[20:32] <mthaddon> not me personally, but yeah, it's a known issue - is it still slow for you?
[20:36] <BenB> mthaddon: yes
[20:37] <BenB> (and for others I spoke to)
[21:04] <gspr> Is the PPA size estimate still off?
[21:06] <gspr> my PPA (https://launchpad.net/~gspreemann/+archive/ppa) is estimated at 935 MB, but it doesn't seem right at all
[21:18] <happosade> How does those PPA really works?
[21:19] <happosade> Can I get my own applications or get newest from LP?
[21:27] <XiXaQ> happosade, you can host your own projects on launchpad, yes, and you can publish packages in a PPA which users can subscribe to. That way, updates to your packages will be pushed through Ubuntus update system.
[21:28] <happosade> Can I subscribe projects to my personal PPA and then just add it to mine source list?
[21:33] <maxb> happosade: Projects do not subscribe to PPAs. I don't understand what you mean. Try explaining what you're trying to do in more depth, or explaining it differently.
[21:34] <happosade> I would like to subscribe newest verion of some projects, and download them from personal PPA.
[21:35] <maxb> That is not how PPAs work.
[21:35] <happosade> Ok
[21:35] <maxb> Your personal PPA contains only what *you* publish
[21:36] <happosade> Ok
[22:05] <rowinggolfer> I am editing the debian changelog for a package I am building
[22:05] <rowinggolfer> how do I find my bugnumber?
[22:12] <mwhudson> rowinggolfer: i don't understand
[22:12] <rowinggolfer> I am at the ~dch -e
[22:14] <rowinggolfer> following this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Python
[22:15] <rowinggolfer> "if the package is only for ubuntu, the bug should be a launchpad bug"
[22:16] <rowinggolfer> "and we should change 'Closes' with 'LP'"
[22:16] <rowinggolfer> so I am unsure what I should use in that line
[22:16] <rowinggolfer> I have the following
[22:17] <rowinggolfer> * Initial release (LP #nnnn) <nnnn is the number of your ITP>
[22:17] <rowinggolfer> so, where can I find the number of my ITP??
[22:17] <rowinggolfer> does that make sense?
[22:18] <rowinggolfer> hmmm
[22:19] <rowinggolfer> LP:openmolar
[22:19] <rowinggolfer> is that what I put in there??
[22:19] <Ampelbein> rowinggolfer: no, you must first open a bug on launchpad and enter the bugnumber there.
[22:20] <rowinggolfer> my software is bug free though ;)
[22:21] <mwhudson> but it has this terrible bug of not being packaged for ubuntu
[22:21] <rowinggolfer> ok... that's bug no.1
[22:21] <mwhudson> rowinggolfer: are you packaging for ubuntu proper or a ppa?
[22:21] <rowinggolfer> ppa
[22:22] <mwhudson> then you probably don't want to bother with a bug for now
[22:22] <mwhudson> i don't think uploads to ppa's close bugs anyway
[22:22] <mwhudson> (i should hope not!)
[22:23] <rowinggolfer> I have opened said bug now
[22:24] <rowinggolfer> so I put that number in there?
[23:42] <Jeruvy> fyi: timeout errors on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cve
[23:43]  * Ursinha looks
[23:47] <Ursinha> oops
[23:47] <Ursinha> okay
[23:47] <Ursinha> bug 353590 :)