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| hallowname | anyone know if karmic's kubuntu will be starring firefox? or just K apps? | 21:04 |
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| hallowname | i mean the regular cd version. its sorely missed by kubuntu users. great work on jaunty btw. flawless. ;] | 21:06 |
| AlienX_ | is there a good repo of nightly builds for pidgin by chance? | 21:23 |
| ikonia | AlienX_: no | 21:28 |
| AlienX_ | ikonia: sad. It'd be nice to have gtalk working again in pidgin :-\ | 21:29 |
| mrwes | wow...that didn't take long to make the switch over | 21:31 |
| wlodi | Hi lads. Do you know if there is a solution for video freezing in jaunty? | 21:41 |
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| ikonia | wlodi: jaunty support is now in #ubuntu | 21:43 |
| wlodi | ikonia: sorry, whats this channel for? | 21:44 |
| ikonia | wlodi: /topic will give you a hint ;) | 21:44 |
| wlodi | ikonia: now its perfectly clear:) thx | 21:44 |
| ikonia | wlodi: not a problem | 21:45 |
| ienorand | Is there any way to actually test Karmic atm? Doesn't the lives start to pop up after the 30th? | 22:01 |
| ikonia | not really | 22:02 |
| ikonia | empty repos, and a base tool chain from what I've read | 22:02 |
| ienorand | nice. | 22:03 |
| ienorand | so I can't easily start broking for a while then... When does the daily's normally start?, is it in confunction with alpha 1 or toolchain upload? | 22:05 |
| ikonia | be a while yet | 22:06 |
| calc | ienorand: probably won't be much before alpha 1 | 22:08 |
| kklimonda | first alpha's release is planned for 14th may.. | 22:09 |
| calc | karmic is still frozen at the moment so really not much to test | 22:10 |
| ienorand | fair enuf, I should maybe stay off the crack a while now when jaunty is running reasonably well, after a niceo trip through alpha... | 22:11 |
| calc | i'm hoping to get OOo 3.1.0~rc2 uploaded later this week if karmic opens by then | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | omg we are back to +1 ! | 22:35 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: indeed :) | 22:35 |
| mefisto__ | I want to try pulseaudio and was looking at this page: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PulseAudio but it seems it might be outdated for jaunty. will the info on that page work for jaunty? or is there a jaunty-specific howto anyone knows of? | 22:35 |
| * BUGabundo sends out kiss and [[]] | 22:35 | |
| BUGabundo | guess I'll need to distupgrade to KK | 22:36 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: i've just restarted xchat and got a nice surprise :) | 22:36 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: sure ;) | 22:36 |
| BUGabundo | who is using it already? | 22:36 |
| ikonia | BUGabundo: there is nothing to use | 22:36 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: I've create pbuilder chroot so far ;) | 22:36 |
| kklimonda | ikonia: there is a new gcc | 22:37 |
| kklimonda | and binutils! ;) | 22:37 |
| ikonia | kklimonda: but what do you use it with ? | 22:37 |
| kklimonda | ikonia: gcc or chroot in general? | 22:37 |
| mefisto__ | oh is this channel now for 9.10? has jaunty been officially released? | 22:38 |
| kklimonda | mefisto__: ;D | 22:38 |
| BUGabundo | mefisto__: Yes | 22:38 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: can you check if UM -d will upgrade to it? | 22:39 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: nope | 22:40 |
| BUGabundo | other wise, I'll have to do what I always tell users not to: sed sources and dist-upgrade | 22:40 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: it is way to early - i don't even upgrade a vm i've prepared just for it ;) | 22:41 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: at this point it will be like running jj with proposed | 22:41 |
| maxb | karmic hasn't shown up in http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-development, hence update-manager not offering it | 22:41 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: i don't think that they have even updated toolchain completely. | 22:41 |
| maxb | Just have a look at the karmic-changes ML archives - barely any packages have been uploaded so far | 22:42 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: please, tell me you are doing it in VM ;} | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | maxb: I saw a bunch of them on the archive | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: do you think I'm that crazy? | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | I ran it bare metal! | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 22:42 |
| kklimonda | ;) | 22:43 |
| BUGabundo | I've been doing it since 6.10 beta | 22:43 |
| maxb | Well, define a bunch. a non-trivial number, yes, but nothing other than utter core or toolchain stuff | 22:43 |
| BUGabundo | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/ | 22:43 |
| maxb | Sources that have been uploaded to karmic so far: base-files binutils cdbs debhelper debootstrap ecj flex gcc-4.3 gcc-4.4 gcc-defaults gcj-4.4 gjdoc java-common lpia-wrapper | 22:45 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: you said few days ago that karmic is switching to swap files. Do you have some links to discussion or something I could check? | 22:46 |
| BUGabundo | so I won't even notice it eheh | 22:46 |
| maxb | So, only 14 source packages, and none that are likely to bring significant behaviour changes to the vast majority of people | 22:46 |
| ikonia | switching to swap files ? | 22:46 |
| BUGabundo | the prob will be, that ill have to run both pockets | 22:46 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: well - gcc -v returns 4.4 ;) | 22:46 |
| BUGabundo | and that will eventually cause me trouble | 22:46 |
| BUGabundo | as usually | 22:46 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: devel-discuss ML I think | 22:46 |
| BUGabundo | let me get my email archive and tell you the subject and ML | 22:47 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: and does it mean that we could expect hibernation to work without swap partition in karmir or karmic+1? ;) | 22:48 |
| kklimonda | (not that hibernation works at all with my nvidia but I'm still interested) | 22:48 |
| BUGabundo | maybe | 22:48 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: works for me | 22:49 |
| BUGabundo | with closed driver | 22:49 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: last time I've tried it didn't resume from hibernation.. | 22:49 |
| kklimonda | but it was some time ago | 22:49 |
| BUGabundo | with open driver X fails, know bug, thought fixed | 22:49 |
| kklimonda | i'll check it right now :) | 22:49 |
| BUGabundo | with NV it even fails to boot | 22:49 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: sorry, can't file the email | 22:50 |
| BUGabundo | maybe just ask to cjcolin ? | 22:50 |
| BUGabundo | I think it was an email from hime | 22:50 |
| BUGabundo | *him | 22:50 |
| * kklimonda_ writes memo to himself: "hibernation doesn't work without a swap partition, you idiot. Don't forget that." | 22:53 | |
| kklimonda_ | but it still shouldn't lock up my computer.. | 22:53 |
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| ienorand | Anyone knows if there are there any plans to update gnumeric in Karmic? looking at lp it seems not to have a lot of activity goin on... | 22:53 |
| kklimonda | ienorand: what version is in debian unstable? | 22:54 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: aaahaha | 22:54 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: file a bug??? | 22:54 |
| BUGabundo | here $ ubuntu-bug gnome-power-manager | 22:54 |
| kklimonda | ya, it shouldn't give me an option to hibernate at all | 22:55 |
| ienorand | kklimonda: Ah, yea, 1.9.6 is in sid... so guessing this will be the one in Karmic? | 22:55 |
| kklimonda | ienorand: it will have to be upgraded manually as there are some ubuntu-specific changes. | 22:56 |
| kklimonda | ienorand: you will have to request merge | 22:56 |
| ienorand | kklimonda: ok, well first I'm going to test it and see if it rides reasonably stable. | 22:57 |
| kklimonda | ienorand: also you should check what changes were made in ubuntu and if they still apply to newer version. | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: maybe put it on your PPA to test, and then help with debdiff | 22:58 |
| ienorand | Heh, I don't even have a ppa yet :) , and I'm not sure how much I'll be able to dig down an mess with things, but I'll see what I can do. | 23:00 |
| kklimonda | ienorand: you will have to apply changes that were made in ubuntu1 release. | 23:01 |
| kklimonda | a patch from ubuntu2 should be already in debian package. | 23:02 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: I guess you are a great candidate for the next #classroom session then | 23:02 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: Looking up the schedule... | 23:03 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: Ah, that's a good suggestion, I'll see if I can make that session, 6 in the morning, ah, shouldn't be too bad... | 23:06 |
| kklimonda | :D | 23:07 |
| kklimonda | ienorand: 6AM isn't that bad - One session I was really interested in was at 2AM ;) | 23:07 |
| ienorand | One goog thing about irc, no one sees if you look lie a zombie :D | 23:08 |
| kklimonda | i was even able to ask few questions.. but the following day was a horror ;) | 23:08 |
| ienorand | kklimonda: Heh, that's not that late :P | 23:08 |
| kklimonda | ienorand: sure - it lasted until 3AM | 23:08 |
| kklimonda | ienorand: and I had to wake up at 7 ;) | 23:09 |
| ienorand | If you just take a brisk run around ~4pm you can manage to become completely nocturnal :-| | 23:09 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: 2am is not bad. at weekend s I'm up at that time | 23:10 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: it was a thursday if I remember correctly ;) | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | this went quiet! | 23:23 |
| * ienorand is messing with debian repos | 23:25 | |
| FFForever | is the repo open? | 23:33 |
| kklimonda | FFForever: yes - but there are almost no changes so far | 23:34 |
| FFForever | ahhh | 23:34 |
| FFForever | anyone know how i can get my internal mic working? | 23:34 |
| kklimonda | FFForever: only new gcc and binutils was uploaded so far | 23:34 |
| ikonia | blindly hitting repos, it is a mistake opening this channel | 23:34 |
| ikonia | FFForever: support is in #ubuntu | 23:34 |
| BUGabundo | ikonia: hehe | 23:34 |
| kklimonda | FFForever: it isn't really topic for this channel - support is on #ubuntu | 23:34 |
| FFForever | ikonia, =( ubuntu is overan but idiots who cant/won't help me =( | 23:34 |
| FFForever | ive tried 8 times in there 2day... | 23:35 |
| BUGabundo | FFForever: its usual! :( | 23:35 |
| kklimonda | FFForever: try ubuntuforums.org | 23:35 |
| BUGabundo | but still lots of ppl eager to help, there | 23:35 |
| ikonia | FFForever: no more/less than idiots blindly asking about KK repos | 23:35 |
| kklimonda | FFForever: there might be a better chance of someone noticing your question there. | 23:35 |
| FFForever | kklimonda, true but after no resonances after asking 8 times gets old... | 23:36 |
| kklimonda | I think that ubottu should get a !repo flag ;) | 23:36 |
| ikonia | FFForever: I can't see you asking once in the logs in #ubuntu | 23:37 |
| kklimonda | FFForever: fast answer is that you should check your mixer and set input sources to ``Internal Mic'' | 23:38 |
| kklimonda | FFForever: but I don't remember if that is enough to fix it. | 23:39 |
| BUGabundo | FFForever: also try alsamixer and try to mute/unmute the mic | 23:40 |
| BUGabundo | also what apps are you using to test it? | 23:40 |
| BUGabundo | and increase BOOST/Gain | 23:40 |
| FFForever | audacity and sound recorder i am trying | 23:41 |
| FFForever | and skype... | 23:41 |
| BUGabundo | forget skype | 23:42 |
| BUGabundo | known bug, won't work, for most users | 23:42 |
| FFForever | ahhh but i need it for cs:s lol | 23:43 |
| FFForever | external mic is said to work but not the internal one | 23:43 |
| FFForever | the sound dude in here during the alpha said it had to do with the kernel and he would fix it but he never did =\ | 23:43 |
| maxb | 23:33 < FFForever> is the repo open? | 23:46 |
| maxb | 23:34 < kklimonda> FFForever: yes - but there are almost no changes so far | 23:46 |
| maxb | It's not really open - 23:33 < FFForever> is the repo open? | 23:47 |
| maxb | 23:34 < kklimonda> FFForever: yes - but there are almost no changes so far | 23:47 |
| maxb | oops | 23:47 |
| maxb | It's not really open - it's still frozen | 23:47 |
| BUGabundo | maxb: bad boy | 23:47 |
| maxb | Second time I was *trying* to paste: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/ | 23:47 |
| FFForever | maxb, ahh so when does it thaw-out? | 23:47 |
| BUGabundo | FFForever: you mean dtchen? he is not even here! guess still stuck on #ubuntu until he re-login | 23:47 |
| FFForever | yeah dtchen :D | 23:48 |
| BUGabundo | FFForever: and NO, he did not yet SRU his fixeds | 23:48 |
| FFForever | SRU? | 23:48 |
| maxb | I assume it gets thawed when the core-devs working on the toolchain uploads say its ready | 23:48 |
| FFForever | ahhh | 23:49 |
| ienorand | FFForever: Does switching analog/digital inputs (deep down in the misty alsa mountatin...) give you anything? | 23:55 |
| BUGabundo | !sru | FFForever | 23:57 |
| BUGabundo | is the bot still on holiday? | 23:57 |
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