=== ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Karmic Koala (9.10) discussion channel | Karmic is NOT RELEASED and will surely break your system if you use it | Schedule https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule | Please join #ubuntu for all other support questions | Happy bug hunting === pace_t_zulu_ is now known as pace_t_zulu === sukke_ is now known as sukke === jussi01 is now known as android === android is now known as jussi01 [21:04] anyone know if karmic's kubuntu will be starring firefox? or just K apps? [21:06] i mean the regular cd version. its sorely missed by kubuntu users. great work on jaunty btw. flawless. ;] [21:23] is there a good repo of nightly builds for pidgin by chance? [21:28] AlienX_: no [21:29] ikonia: sad. It'd be nice to have gtalk working again in pidgin :-\ [21:31] wow...that didn't take long to make the switch over [21:41] Hi lads. Do you know if there is a solution for video freezing in jaunty? === le_bilou1e is now known as le_biloute [21:43] wlodi: jaunty support is now in #ubuntu [21:44] ikonia: sorry, whats this channel for? [21:44] wlodi: /topic will give you a hint ;) [21:44] ikonia: now its perfectly clear:) thx [21:45] wlodi: not a problem [22:01] Is there any way to actually test Karmic atm? Doesn't the lives start to pop up after the 30th? [22:02] not really [22:02] empty repos, and a base tool chain from what I've read [22:03] nice. [22:05] so I can't easily start broking for a while then... When does the daily's normally start?, is it in confunction with alpha 1 or toolchain upload? [22:06] be a while yet [22:08] ienorand: probably won't be much before alpha 1 [22:09] first alpha's release is planned for 14th may.. [22:10] karmic is still frozen at the moment so really not much to test [22:11] fair enuf, I should maybe stay off the crack a while now when jaunty is running reasonably well, after a niceo trip through alpha... [22:12] i'm hoping to get OOo 3.1.0~rc2 uploaded later this week if karmic opens by then [22:35] omg we are back to +1 ! [22:35] BUGabundo: indeed :) [22:35] I want to try pulseaudio and was looking at this page: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PulseAudio but it seems it might be outdated for jaunty. will the info on that page work for jaunty? or is there a jaunty-specific howto anyone knows of? [22:35] * BUGabundo sends out kiss and [[]] [22:36] guess I'll need to distupgrade to KK [22:36] BUGabundo: i've just restarted xchat and got a nice surprise :) [22:36] BUGabundo: sure ;) [22:36] who is using it already? [22:36] BUGabundo: there is nothing to use [22:36] BUGabundo: I've create pbuilder chroot so far ;) [22:37] ikonia: there is a new gcc [22:37] and binutils! ;) [22:37] kklimonda: but what do you use it with ? [22:37] ikonia: gcc or chroot in general? [22:38] oh is this channel now for 9.10? has jaunty been officially released? [22:38] mefisto__: ;D [22:38] mefisto__: Yes [22:39] kklimonda: can you check if UM -d will upgrade to it? [22:40] BUGabundo: nope [22:40] other wise, I'll have to do what I always tell users not to: sed sources and dist-upgrade [22:41] BUGabundo: it is way to early - i don't even upgrade a vm i've prepared just for it ;) [22:41] kklimonda: at this point it will be like running jj with proposed [22:41] karmic hasn't shown up in http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-development, hence update-manager not offering it [22:41] BUGabundo: i don't think that they have even updated toolchain completely. [22:42] Just have a look at the karmic-changes ML archives - barely any packages have been uploaded so far [22:42] BUGabundo: please, tell me you are doing it in VM ;} [22:42] maxb: I saw a bunch of them on the archive [22:42] kklimonda: do you think I'm that crazy? [22:42] I ran it bare metal! [22:42] eheh [22:43] ;) [22:43] I've been doing it since 6.10 beta [22:43] Well, define a bunch. a non-trivial number, yes, but nothing other than utter core or toolchain stuff [22:43] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/ [22:45] Sources that have been uploaded to karmic so far: base-files binutils cdbs debhelper debootstrap ecj flex gcc-4.3 gcc-4.4 gcc-defaults gcj-4.4 gjdoc java-common lpia-wrapper [22:46] BUGabundo: you said few days ago that karmic is switching to swap files. Do you have some links to discussion or something I could check? [22:46] so I won't even notice it eheh [22:46] So, only 14 source packages, and none that are likely to bring significant behaviour changes to the vast majority of people [22:46] switching to swap files ? [22:46] the prob will be, that ill have to run both pockets [22:46] BUGabundo: well - gcc -v returns 4.4 ;) [22:46] and that will eventually cause me trouble [22:46] as usually [22:46] kklimonda: devel-discuss ML I think [22:47] let me get my email archive and tell you the subject and ML [22:48] BUGabundo: and does it mean that we could expect hibernation to work without swap partition in karmir or karmic+1? ;) [22:48] (not that hibernation works at all with my nvidia but I'm still interested) [22:48] maybe [22:49] kklimonda: works for me [22:49] with closed driver [22:49] BUGabundo: last time I've tried it didn't resume from hibernation.. [22:49] but it was some time ago [22:49] with open driver X fails, know bug, thought fixed [22:49] i'll check it right now :) [22:49] with NV it even fails to boot [22:50] kklimonda: sorry, can't file the email [22:50] maybe just ask to cjcolin ? [22:50] I think it was an email from hime [22:50] *him [22:53] * kklimonda_ writes memo to himself: "hibernation doesn't work without a swap partition, you idiot. Don't forget that." [22:53] but it still shouldn't lock up my computer.. === kklimonda_ is now known as kklimonda [22:53] Anyone knows if there are there any plans to update gnumeric in Karmic? looking at lp it seems not to have a lot of activity goin on... [22:54] ienorand: what version is in debian unstable? [22:54] kklimonda: aaahaha [22:54] kklimonda: file a bug??? [22:54] here $ ubuntu-bug gnome-power-manager [22:55] ya, it shouldn't give me an option to hibernate at all [22:55] kklimonda: Ah, yea, 1.9.6 is in sid... so guessing this will be the one in Karmic? [22:56] ienorand: it will have to be upgraded manually as there are some ubuntu-specific changes. [22:56] ienorand: you will have to request merge [22:57] kklimonda: ok, well first I'm going to test it and see if it rides reasonably stable. [22:57] ienorand: also you should check what changes were made in ubuntu and if they still apply to newer version. [22:58] ienorand: maybe put it on your PPA to test, and then help with debdiff [23:00] Heh, I don't even have a ppa yet :) , and I'm not sure how much I'll be able to dig down an mess with things, but I'll see what I can do. [23:01] ienorand: you will have to apply changes that were made in ubuntu1 release. [23:02] a patch from ubuntu2 should be already in debian package. [23:02] ienorand: I guess you are a great candidate for the next #classroom session then [23:03] BUGabundo: Looking up the schedule... [23:06] BUGabundo: Ah, that's a good suggestion, I'll see if I can make that session, 6 in the morning, ah, shouldn't be too bad... [23:07] :D [23:07] ienorand: 6AM isn't that bad - One session I was really interested in was at 2AM ;) [23:08] One goog thing about irc, no one sees if you look lie a zombie :D [23:08] i was even able to ask few questions.. but the following day was a horror ;) [23:08] kklimonda: Heh, that's not that late :P [23:08] ienorand: sure - it lasted until 3AM [23:09] ienorand: and I had to wake up at 7 ;) [23:09] If you just take a brisk run around ~4pm you can manage to become completely nocturnal :-| [23:10] kklimonda: 2am is not bad. at weekend s I'm up at that time [23:10] BUGabundo: it was a thursday if I remember correctly ;) [23:10] eheh [23:23] this went quiet! [23:25] * ienorand is messing with debian repos [23:33] is the repo open? [23:34] FFForever: yes - but there are almost no changes so far [23:34] ahhh [23:34] anyone know how i can get my internal mic working? [23:34] FFForever: only new gcc and binutils was uploaded so far [23:34] blindly hitting repos, it is a mistake opening this channel [23:34] FFForever: support is in #ubuntu [23:34] ikonia: hehe [23:34] FFForever: it isn't really topic for this channel - support is on #ubuntu [23:34] ikonia, =( ubuntu is overan but idiots who cant/won't help me =( [23:35] ive tried 8 times in there 2day... [23:35] FFForever: its usual! :( [23:35] FFForever: try ubuntuforums.org [23:35] but still lots of ppl eager to help, there [23:35] FFForever: no more/less than idiots blindly asking about KK repos [23:35] FFForever: there might be a better chance of someone noticing your question there. [23:36] kklimonda, true but after no resonances after asking 8 times gets old... [23:36] I think that ubottu should get a !repo flag ;) [23:37] FFForever: I can't see you asking once in the logs in #ubuntu [23:38] FFForever: fast answer is that you should check your mixer and set input sources to ``Internal Mic'' [23:39] FFForever: but I don't remember if that is enough to fix it. [23:40] FFForever: also try alsamixer and try to mute/unmute the mic [23:40] also what apps are you using to test it? [23:40] and increase BOOST/Gain [23:41] audacity and sound recorder i am trying [23:41] and skype... [23:42] forget skype [23:42] known bug, won't work, for most users [23:43] ahhh but i need it for cs:s lol [23:43] external mic is said to work but not the internal one [23:43] the sound dude in here during the alpha said it had to do with the kernel and he would fix it but he never did =\ [23:46] 23:33 < FFForever> is the repo open? [23:46] 23:34 < kklimonda> FFForever: yes - but there are almost no changes so far [23:47] It's not really open - 23:33 < FFForever> is the repo open? [23:47] 23:34 < kklimonda> FFForever: yes - but there are almost no changes so far [23:47] oops [23:47] It's not really open - it's still frozen [23:47] maxb: bad boy [23:47] Second time I was *trying* to paste: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/ [23:47] maxb, ahh so when does it thaw-out? [23:47] FFForever: you mean dtchen? he is not even here! guess still stuck on #ubuntu until he re-login [23:48] yeah dtchen :D [23:48] FFForever: and NO, he did not yet SRU his fixeds [23:48] SRU? [23:48] I assume it gets thawed when the core-devs working on the toolchain uploads say its ready [23:49] ahhh [23:55] FFForever: Does switching analog/digital inputs (deep down in the misty alsa mountatin...) give you anything? [23:57] !sru | FFForever [23:57] is the bot still on holiday?