[00:32] anyone know how to make mythbuntu cover the top and bottum panels in Ubuntu 9.04 using gnome? [00:47] Hey guys, I wanted to congradulate everyone that worked on the 9.04 release. Thanks so much for all you hard work (it is greatly appriciated). [00:47] I also have 2 questions for you on my new install [00:50] I have a Aopen mp945-dr and the remote doesn't work. I got it working in ubuntu 8.10 by compiling lirc but I seem to have a problem compiling it this time around (I am still working on it). I also have a problem with the volume being REALLY quite. I turned the xfce volume all the way up and mythtv's volume all the way up but I still need to have my TV at ~60 to even here the sound. From my cable box I am usually fine with the so [00:52] in regards to the sound is it digital out? [00:52] if so you might want to try unmuting it in alsamixer [00:52] no, the box has the option for digital out but I just plugged into the analog 1/8 -> rca cable [00:52] (I had a similar prob) [00:53] maybe turn off the option to control sound with the myth? [00:53] I am not familiar with xfce at all, I added a sound button to the top bar but is there a better place to check if digital is muted? [00:56] I am not to familiar with analog out (only ever used digital out myself) but when you set up the myth to output digital out you can tell it to turn off the machine control of the sound... maybe you can do the same with analog and just control the sound from the speakers? [01:06] looks like I was able to change the output device from ALSA:analog to ALSA:default (or /dev/dsp) and the sound is louder. Not as loud as my cable box but managable === rothgar is now known as xrothgarx [01:34] Hello, i have just updated to 9.04 and I no longer have 3d acceleration. I have an intel integrated 82865G [01:35] well theres your problem [01:36] if it aint broken dont fix it [01:38] I have mythbuntu ibex, with mplayer and coreavc. How can I keep my coreavc mplayer through an upgrade to jaunty? [01:39] bobbob1016, you need to use apt pinning [01:39] google for it [01:40] assuming you built your mplayer/coreavc is properly packaged [01:40] if not, then you are at your wim and have a better idea how you installed it than we do [01:40] why upgrade? [01:41] superm1: I heard about it before, thanks for reminding me. Do I need to pin Wine too, since iirc mplayer w/coreavc uses wine. [01:41] it does? [01:41] bobbob1016, i dont think that newer wine versions break anyway [01:41] wine in 9.04 should work fine... [01:42] Shadow__X: I needed it somewhere, although I doubt it is using it to playback [01:43] I'm hoping that 9.10 will have the better UI, and I want to do 9.04 then 9.10, less to break all at once if I want to go to 9.04 then .10 six months later, instead of .04 then .10 at the same time [01:43] By new UI I mean the myth .22 new UI [01:43] lol [01:43] no .22 isnt released yet [01:44] Shadow__X: I'm hoping by 9.10 it will be, as I said [01:44] i dont think there are new features in mythbuntu 9.04 [01:44] well that all depends on mythtv [01:44] if its ready [01:45] Shadow__X: I never at any point said it was anyone but myth's decision if .22 is 6 months out. I just said "hope" [01:45] i know [01:46] just you are upgrading for the sake of it [01:46] Shadow__X: I'm trying to convince myself that I need it so I have 6 months to play with .04 before I go to .10 [01:47] ok then [01:48] And 9.04 runs great on this machine. Tried KDE4.2 and it seems unstable like it was on 8.10, but apart from that, seems fine [01:48] any tips after an upgrade (click upgrade) to 9.04 i cannot boot anymore.. my root fs was lvm2 :( [01:49] drops me to a shell. so i plan to boot livecd, install lvm2, try mount vg's, then chroot to them, then run apt-get install lvm2 in there again [01:52] I just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 to 9.04 and I am having issues watching tv and videos in myth. [01:53] any ideas? [01:54] did you collect/look at your logs? [01:54] what kind of "issues" [01:54] i dont get any video. [01:54] but i do get sound [01:54] where are the logs? [01:54] /var/logs [01:55] and it also takes serveral seconds to refresh the option pages. [01:55] if you don't want to browse to that you can go to utilities/setup -> then mythbuntu logs [01:55] you have the option either view the logs or upload them for someone else to look at them :) [01:58] im not sure which file to look at [02:03] i have pasted my log file http://paste.ubuntu.com/158925/ [02:07] do you guys have any idea? [02:09] I can get into the tv, but it is realllllllly laggy [02:09] it didnt used to be [02:13] I think it is a 3d acceleration problem, but I have the intel driver installed. [02:13] could someone give me a tip pls. livecd booted, apt-get install lvm2, mkdir /mnt/oldrootlv, vgchange -a y, mount /dev/mapper/rootvg /mnt/oldrootvg, mount /dev/sda1 /boot, chroot /mnt/oldroot, apt-get install lvm2 BUT it cannot get to repository! [02:14] i cannot ping anything inside chroot? [02:21] Hey, folks. This is exhausting: I'm trying to configure LIRC, and something's being done for me somewhere by Ubuntu--essentially, even without LIRC running, I get some remote input. Since I don't know where it's coming from, I can't configure it. :/ [02:34] I just updated to 9.04 and I cant play videos. I get the following error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/158946/ [02:38] inadequate resources.... [02:39] it worked before... [02:40] VLC? [02:40] what is the best disk setup for mythbuntu or what comes out the box? any lvm options? [02:43] I don't think it does LVM out of the box, but you can just leave free space of course. [02:44] i think i learnt my leason having an lvm for root [02:44] think i am going to leave the lvm for the storage/recordings directories [03:05] You don't need it with storage groups [03:31] Has anyone else had trouble with mythbuntu 9.04 and pulseaudio? [03:34] LiveTV in Mythfrontend crashes when I try to switch to the NTSC tuner in my HVR-1600, and the logs suggest that the problem is with pulseaudio [03:40] MythbuntuGuest28, update to the -fixes weekly builds [03:41] MythbuntuGuest28, there are some fixes that suspend pulse audio [03:58] cool [03:58] thanks [03:59] and remember to keep spelling correct right superm1 [04:57] I'm having trouble with setting up diskless clients, can anyone here help? [04:57] I'm using mythbuntu 904 [04:57] here is the error I get on my PXE boot machine: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/mb414123 [05:25] Sup.. [05:27] * map7 is away: Auto-away after 30 mins idle (gone at 27th Apr, 14:25:52) === map7 is now known as map7`afk [05:28] Sush [06:15] heh.. rebuilt mythbuntu plugins mythvodka packages.. we'll see how well this works [06:15] err.. [06:15] heh.. rebuilt mythbuntu plugins with mythvodka .. we'll see how well this works, even.. [09:06] Has anyone here run up a Nova-T-500 in Mythbuntu 9.04? I can't seem to get the /etc/modprobe.d/options fix of "options dvb-usb-dib0700 force_lna_activation=1" to work and enable scanning / registering tables. [09:07] I also get "WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/options, it will be ignored in a future release." [09:08] I also tried "/etc/modprobe.d/options.conf" [14:05] Technophil, so once you renamed it to options.conf, you need to reboot, or reload the modules [14:05] you did that right? === gbutters_away is now known as gbutters_work [16:45] Hmm.. if I reinstall mythtv-database packages I get an error about my password being incorrect.. anyone know off the top where the mysql logins are stored, and why re-installing does that? [16:52] dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database [16:52] !mysql | Essobi [16:52] Essobi: If you are having problems connecting to your mysql database, you can perform the following to reconfigure it: 1. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0 (pay attention to the root password you set, you will need it for the next step) 2. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database 3. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common [16:53] basically those 3 commands will let you reset any and all mysql passwords that are stored [17:20] Zinn: It sets the root password somewhere automagically, with a random on install I believe.. [17:21] Essobi, follow the steps Zinn provided, it will reset your root password [17:22] tgm4883: Ah, roger that. [17:24] Soooooo... Or local cable uses the Motorola type sets... Any suggestions for a capture card for HD/standard capturing? [17:26] Essobi, the default install sets the root password to your user password [17:26] root mysql password that is [17:26] hmph. that was supposed to make it "less" confusing [17:26] Essobi, firewire? [17:27] not sure if it is doing it's job [17:27] tgm4883: Umm. firwire is available on the DVR models.. [17:27] Essobi, are you in the US? [17:28] tgm4883: Yea.. From what I understand thou, the firewire isn't able to capture all the streams available.. [17:28] tgm4883: (yea, im in the US) [17:28] Essobi, then any HD box you have should have active firewire [17:28] and no, it can't capture DRM'd streams [17:28] so [17:28] then you need the HD-PVR, and you need to run 0.22 [17:29] Umm.. so what if I want to capture everything reguardless of what it is? shouldn't a capture card do that? [17:29] Oh.. [17:29] nevermind.. I assumes HD-PVR was software.. it's the haupp card isn't it? [17:30] yes [17:32] tgm4883: There's no packages for 0.22, eh? [17:32] Essobi, you need to install the weekly builds [17:32] !weekly [17:32] Weekly builds are available for MythTV 0.21 (Stable) and MythTV Trunk 0.22 (Unstable, use at your own RISK) for Hardy and Intrepid. See http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds for more info. [17:32] Roger that.. [17:33] Jebus... HD-PVR is pricey. [17:36] 209 at newegg [17:39] I'd really like to put a seperate frontend machine on each of my TVs, and have two or three streams available on the backend box.. [17:39] you probably need 1-2 hd-pvr's then, depending on the channels you like to watch [17:40] yea... that's what I was thinking... quickly becoming cost prohibitive... [17:41] A nice 4x4 HDMI matrix switch would be lovely too.. [17:42] hi folks === Guest63254 is now known as barney_1 [17:42] I'm interested in squashing a bug. I wanted to confirm the package I should be working on. [17:43] ok [17:43] barney_1, what bug [17:43] I'm trying to fix password handling on the install cd... is the package I should be looking in: ubiquity-frontend-mythbuntu? [17:44] specific bug is: #363153 [17:45] https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/363153 [17:46] tgm4883: OOOooooo. [17:46] superm1, ^^^ [17:46] tgm4883: http://www.firefold.com/2-x-4-HDMI-Matrix-Switch-Rack-Mountable-P1919C131.aspx <--- It's serial controlable. :) [17:47] Essobi, ok, but what does that do for you [17:47] barney_1, I think thats the right package, but i'm not familiar enough with that bug [17:48] That's good enought to me. [17:48] I just wanted to make sure someone didn't know for sure that it's the WRONG place to look. [17:48] thanks [17:48] tgm4883: Heh.. Can put all the frontend boxes, XBOX360, etc in one closet, and watch them on any TV in the house.. [17:49] wonder what the range on a 360 controller is.. heh. [17:49] Essobi, 30 Ft [17:49] and i'm not sure I'd want a 360 in a closet [17:49] hehe, about the same as my bluetooth remote for my myth setup too.. [17:50] tgm4883: Fair enough... little kids around the house thou.... would prefer a way to keep them away from my expensive gear.. [17:51] tgm4883: But yea... being able to selectively replicate 2 inputs to any of the 4 output simultaneously is nice.. [17:51] Two frontends viewable on 4 screens in any combination.. [17:52] yea, just make sure you have enough cooling in that closet [17:52] lol, no kiddin [17:53] thinking since it has direct attic space, to run it off the the side of the house with a vent.. [17:53] There's already a in-ceiling speaker system wired in.. [17:54] considering running that to mpd or somesuch... [17:58] hi barney_1, great thanks for helping out [17:58] barney_1, have you used bzr before? [17:59] if so, you'll want to checkout lp:ubiquity to get the latest branch [17:59] barney_1, for the purposes of debugging though, you probably want to run ubiquity in debug mode to get debug logs and see where it is really hanging (ubiquity -d) [18:01] superm1, thanks... I've been reading the devweek logs from earlier this year. I know there's one that covers bzr so I'll read through it and get started. [18:01] barney_1, yeah, the jist of it is: apt-get install bzr; bzr get lp:ubiquity [18:02] when you are ready to submit a patch, can teach you how to commit it and push that branch to launchpad and what not [18:02] I just submitted my first debdiff on sunday... That was a problem with spaces in path names... I think this is probably a similar problem. (that other one was bug #366607) [18:02] Bug 366607 in usb-imagewriter (Ubuntu) "Doesn't work, if path to .img file contains spaces." [Undecided, Confirmed] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/366607 [18:03] barney_1, ubiquity is quite a complex beast. fortunately enough, I can point you to a good starting point and rule out a lot of ubiquity code [18:03] I believe I did it right... and asked for sponsorship [18:03] barney_1, so once you get the bzr branch checked out, look in scripts/mythbuntu at mythbuntu_install.py [18:03] that's what walks through and does all of the installation after you answer questions in the installer [18:04] it inherits a lot of functionality from scripts/install.py (the regular ubuntu installer), so you'd probably bounce back and forth between the two a bunch [18:04] I'm actually looking at that file as we speak (still need to check out the bzr though) [18:04] cool on your first debdiff tho :) always exciting to contribute for the first time [18:09] tgm4883: Umm.. So why an HD-PVR instead of a HVR-1250? [18:10] Or an 1800 even.. [18:17] Oh... It's an actual HD capture box... [18:18] not a tuner... === Guest12695 is now known as mike_ [18:18] sup mike === mike_ is now known as mike__ === mike__ is now known as mike_764 [18:20] well... can't figure out how to change my nick back to barney_1 [18:20] switched computers [18:20] hehe [18:20] Umm. [18:21] I think barney_1 is still on here... that's why [18:21] yeah... I should be able to ghost it right? Can't get it to work though [18:21] Essobi, because you won't get encrypted channels with a hvr-1250 [18:22] tgm4883: Yea.. I just figured that out.. Heh. === mike_764 is now known as barney_1 [18:22] In the US, the Motion Picture Association of America has requested that the Federal Communications Commission allow providers to selectively disable the component outputs of their devices when showing recently released movies. <-- Has any US cable providers acutally done that yet? [18:22] there we go [18:36] Greetings, all. I've waited a few days... I've seen nothing really scarry so far. Should I upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 or should I backup and install from scratch? Nvidia Graphics, Intel CPU, HDTV-5500. Thanks! [18:38] My f'ing laptop dropped the wireless link mid upgrade on mine and hosed the install.. I had to go back and do a scratch 9.04 install, which was okay.. since I had no media loaded yet, save DVD I had just ripped to play with it.. [18:38] so *SHRUG* [18:38] Ouch. I think I'll stay wired if I upgrade :) [18:38] Good idea.. [18:39] Knowing my luck the power will fail or something :) [18:39] hehehe [18:42] superm1: Can you lay the ubiquity-mythtbuntu-frontend url on me... I'm having trouble finding it. [18:43] superm1: ps- I didn't realize bzr was just another versioning system... I'm used to SVN and CVS so shouldn't be too much to learn [18:56] barney_1, lp:ubiquity is the bzr url [18:56] you can see it on the internets at http://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk too [18:57] barney_1, and yeah, bzr is incredibly easy to use, especially for just submitting a branch for patches or features [18:57] so I can just check out the ubiquity trunk.. there's not branch that is mythbuntu specific? [18:58] barney_1, everything that is mythbuntu specific is merged into trunk [18:58] by being part of trunk, we see all the normal installer changes that we need to adjust because of [18:59] hi everyone. i just updated to jaunty, and now when i restart the box (combined backend/frontend) it'll not have any scheduled recordings. i will have to restart the backend manually then and everything works fine again [19:00] maybe mythtv starts before mysql but i cant say [19:00] superm1: great... thanks for your help [19:00] looks fine in the init scripts [19:00] i have a mythbackend log [19:00] tafkaz_73, check the backend log after startup for anything that looks informative to the failure [19:00] maybe you could have alook [19:00] http://pastebin.com/d681976a5 [19:01] its pretty informative i guess, but i dont think i get it [19:01] when i restart mythbackend everythings back to normal [19:01] looks like the msyql server is probably having troubles at startup then? [19:02] can you try to maybe repair/optimize tables [19:02] i could moment [19:02] and see if it starts up any quicker [19:02] and look at mysql logs to see if there is anything it complains at startup [19:02] barney_1, np. glad to get more contributors to mythbuntu - especially ubiquity :) [19:03] will usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend/contrib/optimize_mythdb.pl do the job ? [19:03] or did you have other things in mind [19:05] optimization didnt help [19:05] now lets see the mysql logs [19:06] theyR'e all empty [19:07] i will use my old my.cnf and see what happens [19:09] allthough it seems pretty much the same [19:15] tgm4883: Mmm... Maybe I can use a combination of the moto firewire and a HD-PVR.... Need to check which of my channels are 5Ced [19:21] mysql log looks good [19:23] could it be that mysql is not yet ready when myth starts to need it? [19:36] tafkaz and superm1: Could this be related to the mysqld bug #326768 [19:36] Bug 326768 in mythbuntu "mysqld_safe thinks mysqld has crashed when it hasn't" [Critical, Confirmed] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/326768 [19:37] we're working on a fix...give a sev [19:38] sec [19:40] for now i can say that it helps a lot to hold mythtv-backend from starting in runlevel 2 [19:56] for all i understand this is not a duplicate of the bug #326768 [19:56] Bug 326768 in mythbuntu "mysqld_safe thinks mysqld has crashed when it hasn't" [Critical, Confirmed] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/326768 [19:57] all i have to do to make it work again, is to make mythbackend not start in rl 2 [19:57] so mysql has the time to open up properly [19:58] after i did that everythings good [19:58] so what happens is [19:58] mythbackend wants to connect to mysql, mysql is not yet ready, mythbackend has problems starting but mysql starts absolutely flawless [19:59] HELP HOW I INSTALL MYTHUBUNTU [20:06] K-A-R-R: Visit this link and download the install manual: http://www.mythbuntu.org/installation_manual [20:11] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368145 [20:12] my oh my, checkout from bzr takes forever! [20:13] i have got no sound problem [20:13] Zinn: no sound [20:14] mythtv cant capture line in sound. [20:14] tafkaz_73: Your bug sounds EXACTLY like the problem I have been having. I don't get corruption in the database. I just don't have any recording schedule unless I restart the backend. [20:15] tafkaz_73: This is not reliably reproducable for me. [20:15] just try the workaround [20:15] take mythbackend out of init 2 [20:15] what's it doing there anyway? [20:15] who wants to use myth in rl2??? [20:16] I don't know what rl2 is.. sorry [20:16] runlevel 2 [20:16] you're familiar with linux ? [20:16] do following: [20:16] right... I am familiar with linux... just not runlevels [20:16] ok [20:17] :-) [20:17] i used sysv-rc-conf [20:17] rebooting now to see if I can reproduce the issue [20:17] which is an easy way to quickly change runlevel config [20:17] yep... my recording schedule is gone. [20:18] ok...no get rid of mythbackend in runlevel 2 [20:18] do this: [20:18] sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf [20:18] and then sudo sysv-rc-conf [20:18] easy [20:18] then scroll down to the myth entries [20:19] mythtv-backend and mythtv-status [20:19] and go to the X for runlevel 2 [20:19] just press space to toggle [20:19] and when you're done q for quit [20:19] then restart [20:19] I only have mythtv-backend [20:19] be careful to only change these entries plz [20:19] right [20:20] ok than you dont have status installed [20:20] np [20:20] rebooting now [20:20] Anyone using a satellite source in the US? I'm wondering if it's plagued with 5C and etc... [20:21] tafkaz_73: that seems to have broken mythweb "unable to connect to the master backend at 192.168.1.101:6543 Is it running?" [20:22] hm mom [20:22] no that should work [20:22] is your schedules back then [20:22] ah i see [20:22] you cant look up [20:23] moment... [20:23] looks like backend is not running now [20:23] do sysv-rc-conf again [20:23] this is how the line looks here [20:23] I have X in 3,4,5 [20:24] thats good [20:24] hold on a sec [20:25] /sbin/runlevel [20:27] barney_1, try to reach mythweb again plz [20:27] maybe it just takes a longer time [20:27] nope...nada [20:27] odd [20:27] /sbin/runlevel ? [20:27] I've got to leave for work very soon. I'm going to switch back and reboot. [20:28] Anyone knows how to enable TV-out (post-install) on mythbuntu? [20:28] feel free to join at the bug [20:28] when I type: /sbin/runlevel yeilds: N 2 [20:28] so it does here [20:29] changed back, reboot... no recording schedules [20:29] restart backend: schedules reappear [20:29] weird [20:30] yeah... I'm going to have to put in a script that restarts the backend on login [20:30] what a horrible hack! [20:30] no....i thiink you should join with the bug report [20:30] I've also been experiencing ext4 freeze bug [20:31] and try to play with the runlevels again [20:31] when deleting recordings [20:31] i dont use ext4 [20:31] xfs [20:31] I switched over when I upgraded [20:33] plz join https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368145 barney_1 [20:33] its definitely the same issue [20:39] barney_1: yea.. ext4 is still sketchy for production I'm told.. [20:43] TV-out on Nvidia 6200... Anyone? [20:46] i was just about to help him [20:46] and now he's gon [20:49] tafkaz_73: welcome to IRC :) [20:49] hehe [20:49] i have the same card and just about a week ago i had my old tv [20:49] so i have a working xorg.conf [20:49] well....never mind [21:08] Hi .. want to ask a question . if i update my mythbuntu even if it says that it doesnt have a driver for my nvidia card ? .. is that safe , can i go back if it doesnt successeed ? .. or should i stay with the version i have installed ? === croppa_ is now known as croppa === kees___ is now known as keescook === keescook is now known as kees === MythbuntuGuest51 is now known as shedder [22:34] can I use myth tv to play divx files that are stored on my windows box?? [22:36] Yes [22:37] tyvery much [23:06] Anyone have advice on how to test the Ubiquity package? Do I need to package it as CD image to test changes I make to the source? [23:15] barney_1, you could load up the live cd and then get your package on there and install it, then run through the installer [23:18] tgm4883: So you mean boot to the live-cd. Then mount a drive and use ubiquity from that drive? [23:19] I have compiled the package (./configure, make, sudo make install) but I don't see an executable for the package... any hint? [23:51] barney_1, hmm [23:53] barney_1, if you can build a .deb of it, then you should be able to install (upgrade) the package in the live environment